Re: Installing KDE 2 using apt-get

[Rob VanFleet]

On Sat, Dec 30, 2000 at 04:41:54AM +, Thiago Araujo Silva wrote:
> 
> Please, do someone know how to install KDE 2 using apt-get ? I tried it but I
> couldn't, maybe because my servers don't have it :/

Add this to your /etc/apt/sources-list:
deb http://kde.tdyc.com potato main crypto optional qt1apps

then just apt-get install task-kde

-Rob

Konqueror help needed

[David Bellows]

Hello everyone,

OK, I just had this harrowing experience with apt-get.  I wanted to
upgrade KDE to the latest version (2.1 I think) from the unstable
section.  I wasn't paying close attention and doing so broke X -- it
replaced my working XF3.3.6 with parts of XF4.0.  I managed to get X
back to where I wanted it and noticed that KDE is now upgraded to 2.1. 
Here is where the problem is, everything seems to work OK except I can't
get konqueror to start, here is the error I get:

$ konqueror
konqueror: error while loading shared libraries: /usr/lib/konqueror.so:
undefine d symbol: editBookmarks__16KBookmarkManagerRC7QString   

Also, when starting KDE an error pops up about a program crashing
dealing with trying to load netscape bookmarks.  I wonder if the two are
related (it would seem so).  Is there a solution or workaround anyone
knows about?

I know, I shouldn't be messing around with unstable unless I'm ready to
break things.

Thanks,
David Bellows

Re: Installing KDE 2 using apt-get

[Earl F Hampton]

On Thursday 01 January 1970 00:00, Thiago Araujo Silva wrote:
> Please, do someone know how to install KDE 2 using apt-get ? I tried it but
> I couldn't, maybe because my servers don't have it :/
>
> Thanks a lot,
> Thiago

go to http://kde.tdyc.com if will tell you what to stick in your 
/etc/apt/source.list

Re: Installing KDE 2 using apt-get

[Dean]

Hi Thiago:
 I could be wrong, but I heard
you need to be on a woody instead
of potato installation. hth Dean

Thiago Araujo Silva wrote:
> 
> Please, do someone know how to install KDE 2 using apt-get ? I tried it but I
> couldn't, maybe because my servers don't have it :/
> 
> Thanks a lot,
> Thiago
> 
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Re: `who` vs `w` ?

[Brian May]

> "will" == will trillich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

will> but there's only one of me!

will> % ls -l /dev/pts total 0 crw--- 1 will tty 136, 0 Dec 29
will> 21:04 0

will> what's up with this?

It may be that logins are getting recorded in /var/run/utmp, but
logouts aren't.

At least, this is happening on one of my computers, for telnet
connections.  I don't know what is different about this computer, it
works OK on other computers.

I tried deleting /var/run/utmp, but it still getting messed up when I
log out from telnet.
-- 
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Installing KDE 2 using apt-get

[Thiago Araujo Silva]

Please, do someone know how to install KDE 2 using apt-get ? I tried it but I
couldn't, maybe because my servers don't have it :/

Thanks a lot,
Thiago

Re: Can I run Debian2.2 on a Sun Ultra10??

[Colin Watson]

"Hango" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Can I run Debian2.2 rev2 on a Sun Ultra10?? 

According to http://www.ultralinux.org/faq.html, which is referred to by
http://www.debian.org/releases/2.2/sparc/ch-hardware-req.en.html, yes.

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Re: `who` vs `w` ?

[ktb]

On Fri, Dec 29, 2000 at 09:06:25PM -0600, will trillich wrote:
> when i try "w" it says '3 users' but only shows me.
> % w
>   9:03pm  up 105 days, 21:22,  3 users,  load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
> USER TTY  FROM  LOGIN@   IDLE   JCPU   PCPU  WHAT
> will pts/0wdt   9:02pm  0.00s  0.37s  0.04s  w
> 
> when i try "who" it shows me, three times
> 
> % who
> will pts/0Dec 29 21:02 (wdt)
> will pts/1Dec 21 21:44 (wdt)
> will pts/2Oct 12 14:54 (wdt)
> 
> but there's only one of me!
> 
> % ls -l /dev/pts
> total 0
> crw---1 will tty  136,   0 Dec 29 21:04 0
> 
> what's up with this?
> 

What is "wdt"?  
kent

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  you must first create the universe."  
 - Carl Sagan

Re: X11 headers

[Colin Watson]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Which package includes the X11 headers?
>I'm running Woody.

If that's woody as in the new testing, xlib6g-dev; if that's woody as in
an unstable installation from when it was still called woody, xlibs-dev.
(But xlib6g-dev will do the right thing on both.)

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Re: emacs & w3m -- "Cannot open load file: poe"

[Bob Bernstein]

On Fri, Dec 29, 2000 at 02:28:07PM -0800, kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote:

> > > Discovered there's a w3m module, but when I launch it under either emacs
> > > or xemacs I get (different) error messages.

Why not try good ole plain w3?

It's a fairly nice browser, and with gnus it is really the cat's meow.

Plus...it works. 

-- 
Bob Bernstein
at
Esmond, Rhode Island, USA  

Re: ppp.log rotation

[Denis Kosygin]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ("Alex V. Toropov") writes:


> Sorry for a stupid question, but I cann't find out which cron job
> is rotating ppp.log files every day. Depending on time of day
> it is some script from cron.daily. But I don't know which one.
> I have statndard (not modified) Debian 2.2r1 installation.

Look for /etc/cron.daily/logrotate and /etc/logrotate.conf.

HTH.  Denis

`who` vs `w` ?

[will trillich]

when i try "w" it says '3 users' but only shows me.
% w
  9:03pm  up 105 days, 21:22,  3 users,  load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
USER TTY  FROM  LOGIN@   IDLE   JCPU   PCPU  WHAT
will pts/0wdt   9:02pm  0.00s  0.37s  0.04s  w

when i try "who" it shows me, three times

% who
will pts/0Dec 29 21:02 (wdt)
will pts/1Dec 21 21:44 (wdt)
will pts/2Oct 12 14:54 (wdt)

but there's only one of me!

% ls -l /dev/pts
total 0
crw---1 will tty  136,   0 Dec 29 21:04 0

what's up with this?

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Re: New course for Debian University

[Rob VanFleet]

On Fri, Dec 29, 2000 at 08:10:52PM +, Oliver Elphick wrote:
> Brian Keck wrote:
>   >On the question of /usr/src/linux & symlinks, Linus sent a couple
>   >of messages to linux-kernel a few months ago ...
>  
> 
> Yes, but these refer to the commonly found link from /usr/include/asm
> into /usr/src/linux/include; that is the link that should not be there.
> Linus is saying that the include files used to build glibc should also
> be used to build any programs that call on glibc.
> 
> (The second person Linus was answering had some confusion about the
> links he was talking about -- confusion which Linus did not notice or
> ignored.)
> 
> I can see no harm at all in having a symbolic link from /usr/src/linux
> to the actual kernel source directory.

The gist I got from it was that the headers in /usr/src/linux should be those
headers that glibc was compiled against, regardless of what kernel you're
actually running.  Like if you were running potato with the kernel upgraded to
2.2.18, you should still have the source (or the headers, at least) to 2.2.17
in /usr/src/linux.

At least, that's what I thought, feel free to correct me.

-Rob

Re: Laptop eth0 problems

[NOKUBI Takatsugu]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

>> I've got an HP Pavillion 5195 laptop, pretty new. I did some research, and 
>> found out that supposedly the internal ethernet card on this thing used 
>> tulip 
>> drivers. In fact the support folks from Accton, the folks who made the card, 
>> sent me a tulip driver for the card. The card is the EN2242 Mini PCI Series.

Recently, I got a brand-new laptop DynaBook SS DS50C1/CA. It also has
EN2242 chip.
To use the chip, I need some patch with the followig version driver:
tulip.c:v0.92 4/17/2000  Written by Donald Becker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

The patch is available at
.
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Re: Apache Error: srm.conf

[Rob VanFleet]

On Fri, Dec 29, 2000 at 12:49:50PM -0600, Nathan E Norman wrote:
> According to the online Apache documentation [0], the directive
> "AddDefaultCharsetName" does not exist.  The "AddDefaultCharset" line
> appears to do the right thing; I don't kow why that other line got in
> there.  Comment it out and give it a try.

It's apparently a somewhat new directive.  Look at
http://www.apache.org/info/css-security/apache_specific.html

-Rob

Re: mouse question

[Shawn D'Alimonte]

On December 29, 2000 07:57 pm, Cam wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I recently bought a Logitech Cordless Mouseman Wheel mouse and I am
> unable to get the wheel to work at all.  Here is what I have in my
> XF86Config-4 file for my mouse:

I haven't tried this on my Debian machine, but here is what Mandrake 
did on that machine (Xfree86 4.0.1, KDE2).  Also look at 
http://www-sop.inria.fr/koala/colas/mouse-wheel-scroll/ for hints in 
making the wheel work in many applications (Netscape, emacs, etc)

This works with my Logitech Cordless Wheel Mouse (The one with the red, 
blue and grey interchangable covers). All KDE applications, Netscape 
and xmms work great.

Section "Pointer"
Protocol"MouseManPlusPS/2"
Device  "/dev/mouse"
ZAxisMapping 4 5
#Emulate3Buttons
#Emulate3Timeout50
 
# ChordMiddle is an option for some 3-button Logitech mice
 
#ChordMiddle
 
EndSection   
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Re: potato instalation error

[Ignasi Tura]

On Fri, Dec 29, 2000 at 10:33:19PM -0200, Antonio wrote:




> I`m trying too install the potato with CDROM (with the 5 boot`s floppies: 
> rescue, root, driver1, driver2 and driver3).
> It`s all well until the Base System instalation. I select the CDROM 
> instalation and it begin read the Debian CDROM.

Actually you don't need all that floppies. Rescue and boot will lead you to the 
installation program.

> The Base System is being extracted from
> 
> /instmnt/dists/potato/main/disks-i386/current/base2_2.tgz

> 
> 
> 
> After, it write:
> 
> 
> 
> File error!
> 
> There was a problem extracting the Base System from
> 
> /instmnt/dists/potato/main/disks-i386/current/base2_2.tgz
> 
>


It could be an error with the CD. Try to clean the CD-ROM unit and the CD 
itself. Check for scratches.


Hope that's useful,


Ignasi

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Re: Locale annoying warning

[Ignasi Tura]

Hola Pedro,

On Fri, Dec 29, 2000 at 12:13:00AM -0500, Pedro I. Sanchez wrote:
> I have a fresh unstable install and every time I operate on the packages 
> with apt-get I get the following:
> 
> perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
> perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
>LANGUAGE = (unset),
>LC_ALL = (unset),
>LANG = "c"
>are supported and installed on your system.
> perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C").
> 
> Where am I supposed to set these variables, /etc/profile? 


It will be useful for you.

If you need to spanishize your Debian, in http://www.laespiral.org there is a 
nice Debian manual to do it so.

The lowercase "c"... I've always read it as C, not c... C is just a default.


Saludos,


Ignasi






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Re: newbie: 3c905C eth0 card not detected

[Irwan Hadi]

At 09:32 PM 12/29/00 +0100, Ralf Batri wrote:

On Fre, Dez 29, 2000 at 01:49:50 -0500, D-Man wrote:
> Both 3Com and RedHat say that the 3c905b card does NOT work with
> Linux.  I don't know about the 3c905c.  I bought a much cheaper
> LinkSys card instead and have been very happy with it.

If definatly using the 3c905b and 3c905c on all of my machines,
and it working perfectly for me !


Before I use 3c905b on Dell XPRS 166s, and it worked flawlessly, but after 
I change the computer to P III 800 EB with Asus CUV4X, then it didn't work.

I tried to use ec905c and it worked !, so any idea why 3c905b didn't work then ?

Re: potato instalation error

[ktb]

On Fri, Dec 29, 2000 at 10:33:19PM -0200, Antonio wrote:
> Hello!
> 
> I`m using a IBM 586 , 100MHz, HD 544, RAM 16, CDROM 2x. How you can see, a 
> old computer.
> 
> I`m trying too install the potato with CDROM (with the 5 boot`s floppies: 
> rescue, root, driver1, driver2 and driver3).
> It`s all well until the Base System instalation. I select the CDROM 
> instalation and it begin read the Debian CDROM.Then it write:
> 

If you have the cd then do a cd install.  Set your computer to
boot from the cdrom in the bios setup.  Then boot your computer.
You don't need the floppies, unless your computer can't boot
from the cd.
kent

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  you must first create the universe."  
 - Carl Sagan

mouse question

[Cam]

Hello,

I recently bought a Logitech Cordless Mouseman Wheel mouse and I am unable
to get the wheel to work at all.  Here is what I have in my XF86Config-4
file for my mouse:

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Mouse0"
Driver  "mouse"
Option  "Protocol" "Imps/2"
Option  "Device" "/dev/psaux"
Option  "Resolution" "1200"
Option  "Buttons" "5"
Option  "XAxisMapping" "4 5"
EndSection

Any help would be appreciated.

=

Justin Camblin
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X11 headers

[Shaun Jackman]

Which package includes the X11 headers?
I'm running Woody.

Thanks,
Shaun

potato instalation error

[Antonio]

Hello!

I`m using a IBM 586 , 100MHz, HD 544, RAM 16, CDROM 2x. How you can see, a old 
computer.

I`m trying too install the potato with CDROM (with the 5 boot`s floppies: 
rescue, root, driver1, driver2 and driver3).
It`s all well until the Base System instalation. I select the CDROM instalation 
and it begin read the Debian CDROM.Then it write:



The Base System is being extracted from

/instmnt/dists/potato/main/disks-i386/current/base2_2.tgz



After, it write:



File error!

There was a problem extracting the Base System from

/instmnt/dists/potato/main/disks-i386/current/base2_2.tgz



Who can help-me ?

thanks

Tom-Brasil

Re: [OT] See you next year...

[will trillich]

On Thu, Dec 28, 2000 at 11:36:16PM -0800, kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote:
> on Thu, Dec 28, 2000 at 09:50:47PM +, sena ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > I'll be going in a new-year vacations until 3 January. As someone suggested
> > in another thread, I'll be using procmail to redirect debian mailing lists
> > to /dev/null... I hope it works...
> 
> Make sure to check the latest 2.4.0 pre kernels for the /dev/null patch
> to prevent a /dev/null overflow, particularly with the Debian lists.

i was wondering about that. my /dev/zero and /dev/null have been
growing above their usual restrictions lately -- but i'm still
on potato (2.2.17). who's responsible for this anomaly?

> ;-)

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potato instalation error

[Antonio]

Hello!

I`m using a IBM 586 , 100MHz, HD 544, RAM 16, CDROM 2x. How you can see, a old 
computer.

I`m trying too install the potato with CDROM (with the 5 boot`s floppies: 
rescue, root, driver1, driver2 and driver3).
It`s all well until the Base System instalation. I select the CDROM instalation 
and it begin read the Debian CDROM.Then it write:



The Base System is being extracted from

/instmnt/dists/potato/main/disks-i386/current/base2_2.tgz



After, it write:



File error!

There was a problem extracting the Base System from

/instmnt/dists/potato/main/disks-i386/current/base2_2.tgz



Who can help-me ?

thanks

Tom-Brasil

Re: qt 2.2.3 for debian

[will trillich]

On Fri, Dec 29, 2000 at 10:08:16PM +0100, Hans-Christian Armingeon wrote:
> Hi,
> I searched and searched but didn't find any qt packages for debian. Does 
> anybody know, where to download them?
> 
> Please reply to my e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] because I'm not on debian-user.

try

http://packages.debian.com/qt

for starters.

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Re: Home network with Debian

[will trillich]

On Fri, Dec 29, 2000 at 03:37:54PM -0700, JD Kitch wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 29, 2000 at 12:01:25AM -0600, will trillich wrote:
> > On Thu, Dec 28, 2000 at 10:35:33PM -0700, JD Kitch wrote:
> > > Is that the only file that needs to be changed?  How do I determine
> > > the IP, netmask, and gateway for eth1, and then for the internal
> > > machine?
> > i use 192.168.*.* for mine. my public linux box is also
> > privately 192.168.1.1, which is what all the other boxes
> > around here refer to as their gateway or default route.
> > other machines are anything from 192.168.1.2 to 192.168.254.254
> > and anything else in between.
> > 
> > # /etc/network/interfaces -- configuration file for ifup(8), ifdown(8)
> > 
> > # The loopback interface
> > iface lo inet loopback
> > 
> > # my internal / private LAN section:
> > iface eth0 inet static
> > address 192.168.1.1
> > netmask 255.255.255.0
> > network 192.168.0.0
> > broadcast 192.168.1.255
> > 
> > # the part the 'rest of the world' can see
> > iface eth1 inet static
> > address 208.33.90.85
> > netmask 255.255.255.0
> > network 208.33.90.0
> > broadcast 208.33.90.255
> > gateway 208.33.90.84
> > # the gateway there is actually my cablemodem!
> 
> OK, this all helps.  I'm guessing I'll just pick an IP from that
> same block for the wife's machine.  Is that true, and if so will I
> point to my cable providers DNS server, or do I need to do something
> else internally?

right. here's my setup:
mac 192.168.1.100
mac2 192.168.1.101
mac3 192.168.1.102
win 192.168.1.200
all pointing to '192.168.1.1' (as above) for their gateway
(aka default route).
linux 192.168.1.1
which is also 208.33.90.85
points to 208.33.90.84 as its default, being the cmodem

i suppose i could just as easily have used
192.168.19.37
192.168.40.219
but then i'd need to adjust my netmasks from
255.255.255.0
to
255.255.0.0

with my setup, i get a static ip and it never changes.
if yours moves around, you'll need dhcp, which is not
something i've needed, and not something i even begin
to understand...

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Personal: Osamu Aoki -- mail is bouncing

[kmself]

I got your message regarding partitioning, would be happy for Tony to
use it.  However my mail to both of you is bouncing right now:


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Re: Home network with Debian

[Ed Kear]

At 04:38 PM 12/29/00 -0600, Pascal Hos wrote:

On Friday 29 December 2000 04:37 pm, JD Kitch wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 29, 2000 at 12:01:25AM -0600, will trillich wrote:
> > On Thu, Dec 28, 2000 at 10:35:33PM -0700, JD Kitch wrote:
> > > Is that the only file that needs to be changed?  How do I
> > > determine the IP, netmask, and gateway for eth1, and then for
> > > the internal machine?
> >
> > i use 192.168.*.* for mine. my public linux box is also
> > privately 192.168.1.1, which is what all the other boxes
> > around here refer to as their gateway or default route.
> > other machines are anything from 192.168.1.2 to 192.168.254.254
> > and anything else in between.
> >
> > # /etc/network/interfaces -- configuration file for ifup(8),
> > ifdown(8)
> >
> > # The loopback interface
> > iface lo inet loopback
> >
> > # my internal / private LAN section:
> > iface eth0 inet static
> > address 192.168.1.1
> > netmask 255.255.255.0
> > network 192.168.0.0
> > broadcast 192.168.1.255
> >
> > # the part the 'rest of the world' can see
> > iface eth1 inet static
> > address 208.33.90.85
> > netmask 255.255.255.0
> > network 208.33.90.0
> > broadcast 208.33.90.255
> > gateway 208.33.90.84
> > # the gateway there is actually my cablemodem!
>
> OK, this all helps.  I'm guessing I'll just pick an IP from that
> same block for the wife's machine.  Is that true, and if so will I
> point to my cable providers DNS server, or do I need to do
> something else internally?

Point to the gateway server.
e.g.
# more /etc/resolv.conf
search houston.rr.com rr.com
nameserver 192.168.0.1



If you have roadrunner then you most likely don't have a static IP address.
try loading dhcp-client and looking a little further down the interfaces file.

# An ethernet DHCP client:

iface eth1 inet dhcp

dhcp will set your IP address, gateway address, DNS address (rewrites 
/etc/resolv.conf), mask, etc.

Re: DHCP Client

[Ed Kear]

At 02:40 PM 12/29/00 -0600, Jon Pennington wrote:

Phillip Deackes wrote:
>
> On Fri, 29 Dec 2000 08:32:55 -0800 (PST)
> "Sean 'Shaleh' Perry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > edit /etc/init.d/ script.  Each one has an argument for which
> > eth to
> > listen on.  For pump it is -i eth0.
>
> What is ? I have no /etc/init.d/eth0 or /etc/init.d/dhcp or
> anything like that - all I have which might be relevant is
> /etc/init.d/networking.

Try /etc/init.d/pump


If you have a Debian 2.2 or later system, try editing /etc/network/interfaces

Can I run Debian2.2 on a Sun Ultra10??

[Hango]

Can I run Debian2.2 rev2 on a Sun Ultra10?? 

Re: Switching between KDE & Helix-Gnome

[csj]

On Saturday 30 December 2000 00:10, Holger Rauch wrote:
> Hi Noah!
>
> Thanks a lot for your quick reply!
>
> On Fri, 29 Dec 2000, Noah L. Meyerhans wrote:
> > You don't need KDM in order to start KDE, nor do you need GDM to start
> > GNOME.  Either of these display managers will allow you to choose a
> > "session" from a menu when you log in.
>
> If I understand you right, it is probably best to do completely without a
> display manager and instead use an ".xsession" file in my home directory
> from which I start the corresponding session. What script do I have to
> execute for starting Helix Gnome?

I think it's gnome-session. Try KDM, to add a session you just go as root to 
the appropriate dialog in kcontrol [System > Login manager > Sessions tab]. 
The session name is the name of the bash command you would use to invoke the 
window manager in question. Thus add xfce if you want to run xfce, icewm if 
you want to run icewm, and gnome-session for a gnome session. YMMV.

Re: qt 2.2.3 for debian

[John Hasler]

Hans-Christian Armingeon writes:
> I searched and searched but didn't find any qt packages for debian. Does
> anybody know, where to download them?

>From your favorite Debian mirror:

  Package: libqt2
  Status: install ok installed
  Priority: optional
  Section: libs
  Installed-Size: 3538
  Maintainer: Heiko Schlittermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  Source: qt2
  Version: 2.0.2-0.7
  Replaces: qt2
  Depends: libc6 (>= 2.1.2), libpng2, libstdc++2.10, libz1, xlib6g (>= 3.3.5)
  Conflicts: qt2
  Description: Qt GUI Library (runtime version).
   This package contains the files necessary for running applications that use
   Qt.

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Re: Tools for creating a movie from a sequence of images?

[Jon Pennington]

"Michael A. Miller" wrote:
> 
> Are there any tools (or libraries) in Debian that will allow me
> to create an animation from a sequence of images?
> 
> Mike

Depending on the image format, you should look at The GIMP and it's
assorted plugins.

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Re: Home network with Debian

[Pascal Hos]

On Friday 29 December 2000 04:37 pm, JD Kitch wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 29, 2000 at 12:01:25AM -0600, will trillich wrote:
> > On Thu, Dec 28, 2000 at 10:35:33PM -0700, JD Kitch wrote:
> > > Is that the only file that needs to be changed?  How do I
> > > determine the IP, netmask, and gateway for eth1, and then for
> > > the internal machine?
> >
> > i use 192.168.*.* for mine. my public linux box is also
> > privately 192.168.1.1, which is what all the other boxes
> > around here refer to as their gateway or default route.
> > other machines are anything from 192.168.1.2 to 192.168.254.254
> > and anything else in between.
> >
> > # /etc/network/interfaces -- configuration file for ifup(8),
> > ifdown(8)
> >
> > # The loopback interface
> > iface lo inet loopback
> >
> > # my internal / private LAN section:
> > iface eth0 inet static
> > address 192.168.1.1
> > netmask 255.255.255.0
> > network 192.168.0.0
> > broadcast 192.168.1.255
> >
> > # the part the 'rest of the world' can see
> > iface eth1 inet static
> > address 208.33.90.85
> > netmask 255.255.255.0
> > network 208.33.90.0
> > broadcast 208.33.90.255
> > gateway 208.33.90.84
> > # the gateway there is actually my cablemodem!
>
> OK, this all helps.  I'm guessing I'll just pick an IP from that
> same block for the wife's machine.  Is that true, and if so will I
> point to my cable providers DNS server, or do I need to do
> something else internally?

Point to the gateway server.
e.g.
# more /etc/resolv.conf
search houston.rr.com rr.com
nameserver 192.168.0.1


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Re: Home network with Debian

[JD Kitch]

On Fri, Dec 29, 2000 at 12:01:25AM -0600, will trillich wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 28, 2000 at 10:35:33PM -0700, JD Kitch wrote:
> > Is that the only file that needs to be changed?  How do I determine
> > the IP, netmask, and gateway for eth1, and then for the internal
> > machine?
> i use 192.168.*.* for mine. my public linux box is also
> privately 192.168.1.1, which is what all the other boxes
> around here refer to as their gateway or default route.
> other machines are anything from 192.168.1.2 to 192.168.254.254
> and anything else in between.
> 
>   # /etc/network/interfaces -- configuration file for ifup(8), ifdown(8)
> 
>   # The loopback interface
>   iface lo inet loopback
> 
>   # my internal / private LAN section:
>   iface eth0 inet static
>   address 192.168.1.1
>   netmask 255.255.255.0
>   network 192.168.0.0
>   broadcast 192.168.1.255
> 
>   # the part the 'rest of the world' can see
>   iface eth1 inet static
>   address 208.33.90.85
>   netmask 255.255.255.0
>   network 208.33.90.0
>   broadcast 208.33.90.255
>   gateway 208.33.90.84
>   # the gateway there is actually my cablemodem!

OK, this all helps.  I'm guessing I'll just pick an IP from that
same block for the wife's machine.  Is that true, and if so will I
point to my cable providers DNS server, or do I need to do something
else internally?

> ALSO be sure to get the ipmasq package
> 
>   apt-get install ipmasq

Did this.  Now it suggests a different package for Identd, which I
tried, but gave up on, so hopefully the "normal" pkg will work ok.

> one problem we ran into -- my wife's windo~1 box seems to be
> scanning for some service when it first starts up, and she can't
> get connected for more than a minute. after a few minutes, she's
> fine. we can't figure out what the drag is. if you have this
> too, and can solve it, LEMME KNOW!

I'll let you know I get everything working.

Thanks!
jdk

Re: formatting mod

[Jon Pennington]

Kerstin Hoef-Emden wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> this question might sound quite stupid, but: How to format an MOD of
> 640MB as superfloppy with dos filesystem?
> 
> Until now I only needed ext2fs. I used fdisk (fdisk -b2048 /dev/sdc),
> deleted the partition, wrote the new data to the disk and could
> lateron install an ext2fs with "ext2fs -b2048 /dev/sdc".
> 
> I tried it now the same way with mkdosfs and it refuses to do so. What
> is the trick? With partitions on the MOD, the drive designations of the
> OS/2 system, with which the data have to be exchanged, will be messed
> up.

I'm just shooting from the hip here, but you may be using the wrong fs
type.  IIRC, mkdosfs uses the DOSFS type used on floppies.  You should
look at the tool mkfs.vfat for starters; vfat is just large FAT with an
extended segment for long file names, and even OS/2 should be able to
use /those/ 8.3 tables.

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Re: emacs & w3m -- "Cannot open load file: poe"

[kmself]

on Thu, Dec 28, 2000 at 10:41:45AM -0800, kmself@ix.netcom.com 
(kmself@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
> on Thu, Dec 28, 2000 at 01:02:11AM -0800, kmself@ix.netcom.com 
> (kmself@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
> > I'm reaquainting myself with emacs after a several years absense.
> > 
> > Discovered there's a w3m module, but when I launch it under either emacs
> > or xemacs I get (different) error messages.
> > 
> > emacs: Cannot open load file: poe
> > 
> > xemacs: Wrong number of arguments: # > &optional predicate
> > 
> > 
> > ...I'm not desperate for this to work, but it'd be more than a little
> > nice.  Deja and Google pull blanks.  Any Emacsen gnurus out there?
> 
> I've found that this is a posted bug, #80526.

Hmmm.  I've added the apel package and now get the following error:

Symbol's function definition is void: set-process-coding-system

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Re: kernel: scsi conflict

[Dietmar Schultz]

On Wed, Dec 27, 2000 at 11:46:05AM +0100, Sebastiaan wrote:
 
> But when starting LILO and adding:
> linux aha152x=0x340,11
> everything works fine.
> 
> The problem is, I can not use LILO, because the image is supposed to work
> on a diskless workstation. 

When you load this image via tftp as NetBootImage use option -a STRING
with mknbi-linux. If using etherboot (http://etherboot.sourceforge.net)
you could give options to the kernel by setting an option-entry in
your dhcpd.conf.

Using a boot-floppy with a kernel and lilo on it would work, too. But
then this worstation is no longer diskless...

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What /potato/main/disks-i386/ image to burn into CDR

[csj]

Having been converted to the Debian download-as-needed way, I am now 
reluctant to download entire ISO's of irrelevant .debs (either raw or thru 
the pseudo image kit). Now, what I want to know is: what floppy image from 
debian/dists/potato/main/disks-i386/2.2.20.0.1-2000-12-03/ do I need to 
download so I can burn my own CDR installer? I don't have any floppy 
drive to dd to.

The 1.44 MB floppy image appears to be unusable because it asks for another 
floppy. From its size ( =1.44MB), I assume that the culprit is the root.bin 
file. Having booted off the CDR, is there any way I can loop mount the 
root.bin file to fool the installer into thinking it's reading the file off a 
floppy?

Tools for creating a movie from a sequence of images?

[Michael A. Miller]

Are there any tools (or libraries) in Debian that will allow me
to create an animation from a sequence of images?  

Mike

Re: qt 2.2.3 for debian

[Bud Rogers]

On Friday 29 December 2000 15:08, Hans-Christian Armingeon wrote:
> Hi,
> I searched and searched but didn't find any qt packages for debian.
> Does anybody know, where to download them?
>
> Please reply to my e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] because I'm not on
> debian-user.

http://kde.tdyc.com


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Re: Making new tasks known to tasksel (2)

[Juergen Fiedler]

I am not sure whether this has been mentioned before,
but running 'Update' from within dselect adds the tasks to tasksel.

j


Holger Rauch wrote:
> 
> Hi all!
> 
> I forgot to mention something in my last mail concerning this issue. I
> didn't run "tasksel" right after "apt-cdrom add". What I did was:
> 
> 1. apt-cdrom add
> 2. apt-get update
> 3. tasksel
> 
> The question why the new tasks were not available in tasksel still
> remains.
> 
> Thanks a lot for your help.
> 
> Greetings,
> 
> Holger
> 
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Re: Laptop eth0 problems

[Jo Geraerts]

Hello,


On Thu, 28 Dec 2000, Michelle Murrain wrote:

> The generic tulip failed during the install. Then, in trying their tulip - I 
> put thier tulip.o into /lib/modules/2.2.17/net, and added the line: 

Maybe you can get it working with the ne2000 driver.

Greetz,
Jo

qt 2.2.3 for debian

[Hans-Christian Armingeon]

Hi,
I searched and searched but didn't find any qt packages for debian. Does 
anybody know, where to download them?

Please reply to my e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] because I'm not on debian-user.

Thanks Johnny

formatting mod

[Kerstin Hoef-Emden]

Hi,

this question might sound quite stupid, but: How to format an MOD of
640MB as superfloppy with dos filesystem? 

Until now I only needed ext2fs. I used fdisk (fdisk -b2048 /dev/sdc),
deleted the partition, wrote the new data to the disk and could
lateron install an ext2fs with "ext2fs -b2048 /dev/sdc".

I tried it now the same way with mkdosfs and it refuses to do so. What
is the trick? With partitions on the MOD, the drive designations of the
OS/2 system, with which the data have to be exchanged, will be messed
up.


Regards,

Kerstin

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Re: blackbox - menus and themes

[Rogerio Brito]

On Dec 29 2000, Jeronimo Pellegrini wrote:
> Thanks a lot! I switched to xterm, which is lighter and better as an
> x-terminal-emulator, IMHO.

Just a hint: if you can live with a stripped down version of
xterm that is easier on RAM, then use rxvt. I use it here and
it is also faster scrolling the screen (say, when I do a 'ls
-lAFR /').


HTH, Roger...

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Re: problem with perl in unstable

[aperrin]

Just as a guess: have you installed perl 5.6.0 on this machine from
source?  If so, you'll need to provide access to the older 5.005_03
libraries for some of the apt scripts to work. I used some symlinks
within the /usr/lib/perl5/5.6.0 directory to point to libraries in
/usr/lib/perl5/5.005, which works (albeit not elegantly).

do a perl -V to get the contents of @INC (which holds the directories
that will be searched by perl looking for modules) and see if the files
listed in the error messages below appear in that path.

Cheers,
Andy Perrin

On 29 Dec, Thomas Delany wrote:
:  That looks almost identical to a problem that I have been having with a
:  number of packages in unstable.  Unfortunately, no one has been able to help
:  me either.  I wish Iknew what was going on.If I get any answer, or figure
:  anything out, I'll let you know.  I'd appreciate it if youwould do the same
:  for me.Best wishes,Tom Delany  > Ciao, I have the following problem:
:  >
:  > # dpkg --configure xserver-common
:  > Configuro xserver-common (4.0.1-10) ...
:  > Can't locate warnings/register.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /usr/lib/perl5
:  > /usr/lib/perl5/5.6/i386-linux /usr/lib/perl5/5.6
:  > /usr/local/lib/site_perl/i386-linux /usr/local/lib/site_perl
:  > /usr/lib/perl5/5.005/i386-linux /usr/lib/perl5/5.005 .) at
:  > /usr/lib/perl5/5.6/vars.pm line 11.
:  > BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/lib/perl5/5.6/vars.pm line 11.
:  > Compilation failed in require at /usr/lib/perl5/5.005/File/Spec.pm line
:  15.
:  > BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/lib/perl5/5.005/File/Spec.pm
:  line
:  > 15.
:  > Compilation failed in require at /usr/lib/perl5/5.6/i386-linux/IO/File.pm
:  > line 113.
:  > BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at
:  > /usr/lib/perl5/5.6/i386-linux/IO/File.pm line 113.
:  > Compilation failed in require at /usr/lib/perl5/5.6/FileHandle.pm line 9.
:  > Compilation failed in require at /usr/lib/perl5/Debconf/Template.pm line
:  6.
:  > BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/lib/perl5/Debconf/Template.pm
:  > line 6.
:  > Compilation failed in require at /usr/share/debconf/frontend line 22.
:  > BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/share/debconf/frontend line 22.
:  > dpkg: errore processando xserver-common (--configure):
:  >  il sottoprocesso post-installation script ha restituito un codice di
:  >  errore 2
:  >  Sono occorsi degli errori processando:
:  >   xserver-common
:  >
:  >
:  > How I can fix this problem?
:  > ii  perl-5.005  5.005.03-7.1 Larry Wall's Practical Extracting and
:  Report Language.
:  > ii  perl-5.005-base 5.005.03-7.1 The Pathologically Eclectic Rubbish
:  Lister
:  > ii  perl-base   5.004.05-1.1 Fake package assuring that one of
:  the -base package is installed
:  >
:  > TNX
:  >
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:  >
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:  
:  
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Re: magneto optical, driver support

[kmself]

on Fri, Dec 29, 2000 at 12:08:41PM +0100, Matthieu Paindavoine ([EMAIL 
PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> Found a pinnacle magneto optical 650. I am looking for a driver. Has
> anyone seen one?

SCSI device?  SCSI should be all you need.

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Re: problem with perl in unstable

[Thomas Delany]

That looks almost identical to a problem that I have been having with a
number of packages in unstable.  Unfortunately, no one has been able to help
me either.  I wish Iknew what was going on.If I get any answer, or figure
anything out, I'll let you know.  I'd appreciate it if youwould do the same
for me.Best wishes,Tom Delany  > Ciao, I have the following problem:
>
> # dpkg --configure xserver-common
> Configuro xserver-common (4.0.1-10) ...
> Can't locate warnings/register.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /usr/lib/perl5
> /usr/lib/perl5/5.6/i386-linux /usr/lib/perl5/5.6
> /usr/local/lib/site_perl/i386-linux /usr/local/lib/site_perl
> /usr/lib/perl5/5.005/i386-linux /usr/lib/perl5/5.005 .) at
> /usr/lib/perl5/5.6/vars.pm line 11.
> BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/lib/perl5/5.6/vars.pm line 11.
> Compilation failed in require at /usr/lib/perl5/5.005/File/Spec.pm line
15.
> BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/lib/perl5/5.005/File/Spec.pm
line
> 15.
> Compilation failed in require at /usr/lib/perl5/5.6/i386-linux/IO/File.pm
> line 113.
> BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at
> /usr/lib/perl5/5.6/i386-linux/IO/File.pm line 113.
> Compilation failed in require at /usr/lib/perl5/5.6/FileHandle.pm line 9.
> Compilation failed in require at /usr/lib/perl5/Debconf/Template.pm line
6.
> BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/lib/perl5/Debconf/Template.pm
> line 6.
> Compilation failed in require at /usr/share/debconf/frontend line 22.
> BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/share/debconf/frontend line 22.
> dpkg: errore processando xserver-common (--configure):
>  il sottoprocesso post-installation script ha restituito un codice di
>  errore 2
>  Sono occorsi degli errori processando:
>   xserver-common
>
>
> How I can fix this problem?
> ii  perl-5.005  5.005.03-7.1 Larry Wall's Practical Extracting and
Report Language.
> ii  perl-5.005-base 5.005.03-7.1 The Pathologically Eclectic Rubbish
Lister
> ii  perl-base   5.004.05-1.1 Fake package assuring that one of
the -base package is installed
>
> TNX
>
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>
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>
>

Re: DHCP Client

[Jon Pennington]

Phillip Deackes wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 29 Dec 2000 08:32:55 -0800 (PST)
> "Sean 'Shaleh' Perry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > edit /etc/init.d/ script.  Each one has an argument for which
> > eth to
> > listen on.  For pump it is -i eth0.
> 
> What is ? I have no /etc/init.d/eth0 or /etc/init.d/dhcp or
> anything like that - all I have which might be relevant is
> /etc/init.d/networking.

Try /etc/init.d/pump

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Re: newbie: 3c905C eth0 card not detected

[Ralf Batri]

On Fre, Dez 29, 2000 at 01:49:50 -0500, D-Man wrote:
> Both 3Com and RedHat say that the 3c905b card does NOT work with
> Linux.  I don't know about the 3c905c.  I bought a much cheaper
> LinkSys card instead and have been very happy with it.

If definatly using the 3c905b and 3c905c on all of my machines, 
and it working perfectly for me !

greetz Ralf
_
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xinetd, tcpd (tcpwrappers), twist

[Seth R Arnold]

Greetings friends. Perhaps someone here can help me. (BTW -- a CC
would sure be nice, if you reply. :)

I am trying to build a short and sweet http redirector using the
twist function from hosts_options(5). I did this before, with ftp,
and inetd. Trouble is, now I am using a machine with xinetd
(Version 2.1.8.9pre11) and I cannot get the service to be used
twice -- it works once, then xinetd quits!

The xinetd.d directory entry I am using contains:
service httpd-redir
{
identifier  = httpd-redir
port= 6080
protocol= tcp
type= UNLISTED
flags   = NAMEINARGS
socket_type = stream
wait= no
user= root
server  = /usr/sbin/tcpd 
server_args = /usr/sbin/in.httpd-redir
log_on_failure  += USERID
}

The /etc/hosts.allow file contains:
in.httpd-redir : ALL : twist echo -en 'Hi'

(It used to be much more complex and working, but this is simple
enough that it should not fail.)

When running xinetd with:  xinetd -reuse -pidfile /var/run/xinetd.pid -d
I get error messages thus: 00/12/[EMAIL PROTECTED]:14:47: DEBUG: {main_loop} 
select returned 1

The whole bit says:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] xinetd.d]# xinetd -reuse -pidfile /var/run/xinetd.pid -d
00/12/[EMAIL PROTECTED]:14:44: DEBUG: {handle_includedir} Reading included 
configuration file: /etc/xinetd.d/chargen [line=14]
00/12/[EMAIL PROTECTED]:14:44: DEBUG: {handle_includedir} Reading included 
configuration file: /etc/xinetd.d/chargen-udp [line=14]
00/12/[EMAIL PROTECTED]:14:44: DEBUG: {handle_includedir} Reading included 
configuration file: /etc/xinetd.d/daytime [line=15]
00/12/[EMAIL PROTECTED]:14:44: DEBUG: {handle_includedir} Reading included 
configuration file: /etc/xinetd.d/daytime-udp [line=14]
00/12/[EMAIL PROTECTED]:14:44: DEBUG: {handle_includedir} Reading included 
configuration file: /etc/xinetd.d/echo [line=15]
00/12/[EMAIL PROTECTED]:14:44: DEBUG: {handle_includedir} Reading included 
configuration file: /etc/xinetd.d/echo-udp [line=14]
00/12/[EMAIL PROTECTED]:14:44: DEBUG: {handle_includedir} Reading included 
configuration file: /etc/xinetd.d/httpd-redir [line=15]
00/12/[EMAIL PROTECTED]:14:44: WARNING: {attr_lookup} bad attribute: identifier 
[line=6]
00/12/[EMAIL PROTECTED]:14:44: DEBUG: {handle_includedir} Reading included 
configuration file: /etc/xinetd.d/time [line=18]
00/12/[EMAIL PROTECTED]:14:44: DEBUG: {handle_includedir} Reading included 
configuration file: /etc/xinetd.d/time-udp [line=14]
00/12/[EMAIL PROTECTED]:14:44: DEBUG: {handle_includedir} Reading included 
configuration file: /etc/xinetd.d/wu-ftpd [line=15]
Service defaults
Instances = 60
Logging to syslog. Facility = authpriv, level = info
Log_on_success flags = HOST PID
Log_on_failure flags = HOST RECORD

Service configuration: ftp
id = ftp
socket_type = stream
Protocol (ny = authpriv, level = info
Log_on_success flags = HOST PID
Log_on_failure flags = HOST RECORD USERID

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00/12/[EMAIL PROTECTED]:14:44: DEBUG: {cnf_start_services} Started service: 
httpd-redir
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services_started = 2
00/12/[EMAIL PROTECTED]:14:44: NOTICE: {main} Started working: 2 available 
services
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(*sigh* out of time, and paste doesn't work further! blah.)

In any event, if you know what I can do to fix that stupid error, I would *love*
to hear it! ;)

Thanks

Installing Debian over NFS

[Denis Laroche]

Hi all,

I'm new to Debian and I'm trying to install the current distribution
using NFS on a i486 PC that has an Ethernet 3Com 3C509B adapter in an
ISA slot. I had RedHat Linux running on the PC before and the NIC was
working fine (with Donald Beckers's 3c509.o module).

I read through the installation guide, created the boot floppies for the
'vanilla' kernel, and also copied the driver images to floppies. The
installation works OK until I choose the 'Configure Device Driver
Modules' option from the installation menu to load a driver for the NIC;
at this point I try to use any of the four driver floppies, but I'm
getting the following error: "Cannot mount the floppy. Stop". Is it the
proper way to load the driver?

Thanks in advance for any help.

--
Denis Laroche
244 Des Oeillets
Otterburn Park, Québec, Canada, J3H 5P4

Re: DHCP Client

[Sean 'Shaleh' Perry]

On 29-Dec-2000 Phillip Deackes wrote:
> On Fri, 29 Dec 2000 08:32:55 -0800 (PST)
> "Sean 'Shaleh' Perry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> edit /etc/init.d/ script.  Each one has an argument for which
>> eth to
>> listen on.  For pump it is -i eth0.
> 
> What is ? I have no /etc/init.d/eth0 or /etc/init.d/dhcp or
> anything like that - all I have which might be relevant is
> /etc/init.d/networking.
> 

whatever dhcp client is installed.  Might be pump or dhclient.  Or even dhcpcd.

Re: newbie: 3c905C eth0 card not detected

[D-Man]

On Fri, Dec 29, 2000 at 08:55:04PM +0100, Robert-Jan Kuijvenhoven wrote:
> At 13:49 29-12-00 -0500, you wrote:
> >Both 3Com and RedHat say that the 3c905b card does NOT work with
> >Linux.
> 
> 3c905b does not work, they say? Take a look at this:



I'm glad it works for you.  It was a few years ago that I recall
reading on the web sites that it didn't work.  In any case I am glad
that I thought it didn't since the Linksys card was many times
cheaper!  (the Linksys was ~$20 while the 3Com was about ~90)

:-)

-D

Re: DHCP Client

[Phillip Deackes]

On Fri, 29 Dec 2000 08:32:55 -0800 (PST)
"Sean 'Shaleh' Perry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> edit /etc/init.d/ script.  Each one has an argument for which
> eth to
> listen on.  For pump it is -i eth0.

What is ? I have no /etc/init.d/eth0 or /etc/init.d/dhcp or
anything like that - all I have which might be relevant is
/etc/init.d/networking.

Cheers.

-- 
Phillip Deackes
Using Storm Linux 2000

Re: New course for Debian University

[Oliver Elphick]

Brian Keck wrote:
  >On the question of /usr/src/linux & symlinks, Linus sent a couple
  >of messages to linux-kernel a few months ago ...
 

Yes, but these refer to the commonly found link from /usr/include/asm
into /usr/src/linux/include; that is the link that should not be there.
Linus is saying that the include files used to build glibc should also
be used to build any programs that call on glibc.

(The second person Linus was answering had some confusion about the
links he was talking about -- confusion which Linus did not notice or
ignored.)

I can see no harm at all in having a symbolic link from /usr/src/linux
to the actual kernel source directory.

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  shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the 
  day of judgment."   Matthew 12:36 

Re: blackbox - menus and themes

[Jeronimo Pellegrini]

:: Sean 'Shaleh' Perry writes:


> mine:

> [submenu] (Blackbox) {}
>   [config] (Configuration)
>   [submenu] (Styles) {}
>  [stylesdir] (/usr/share/blackbox/styles)
>  [stylesdir] (~/.blackbox/styles)
>   [end]
>   [workspaces] (Workspaces)
>[end]

>> 
>> This is strange. I did --purge blackbox and then reinstalled it, so
>> the files should all be new, right? 
>> 

> one would think.  purge it, make sure there is no /etc/X11/blackbox dir, try
> again.

Ok, I did that and the problem persists.

> Another possibility is that your ~/.blackboxrc points to a different
> menu file.

I've removed it before installing blackbox again... Then when I
started blackbox it created a new one, and it points to:

session.menuFile:   /etc/X11/blackbox/blackbox-menu

And my /etc/X11/blackbox/blackbox-menu is the same as before.

Maybe this is because I'm running sid? Could it be a problem with the 
"menu"package?

J.

-- 
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Institute of Computing - Unicamp - Brazil
http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~jeronimo
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Re: newbie: 3c905C eth0 card not detected

[Robert-Jan Kuijvenhoven]

At 13:49 29-12-00 -0500, you wrote:
Both 3Com and RedHat say that the
3c905b card does NOT work with
Linux.
3c905b does not work, they say? Take a
look at this:
/sbin/lspci -v

00:13.0 Ethernet controller: 3Com Corporation 3c905B 100BaseTX [Cyclone]
(rev 64)
    Subsystem: 3Com Corporation:
Unknown device 9055
    Flags: bus master, medium
devsel, latency 32, IRQ 10
    I/O ports at 6000
    Memory at f200 (32-bit,
non-prefetchable)
    Capabilities: [dc] Power
Management version 1

eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr
00:50:04:4A:AE:A5
  inet
addr:192.168.1.1  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
  UP BROADCAST
RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:15759
errors:13 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:13
  TX packets:16469
errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0
txqueuelen:100
  Interrupt:10 Base
address:0x6000

Kernel configuration:

[*] Ethernet (10 or 100Mbit)
[*] 3COM cards
< > 3c501 support
< > 3c503 support
< > 3c505 support
< > 3c509/3c579 support
< > 3c515 ISA Fast EtherLink
 3c590/3c900 series (592/595/597) "Vortex/Boomerang"
support

I think it works very well under Linux! Rebuilding the kernel and the
modules was enough for me to get the nic up and running (I compiled the
Kernel module loader into the kernel, so I did not have to insmod the
card).

I don't know about the
3c905c.
I have never tried a 905c card, but I
thinks it works the same.

Good luck,

Robert-Jan

Re: blackbox - menus and themes

[Sean 'Shaleh' Perry]

Think I left off the menu:

[submenu] (Blackbox) {}
  [config] (Configuration)
  [submenu] (Styles) {}
 [stylesdir] (/usr/share/blackbox/styles)
 [stylesdir] (~/.blackbox/styles)
  [end]
  [workspaces] (Workspaces)
   [end]

Re: blackbox - menus and themes

[Sean 'Shaleh' Perry]

On 29-Dec-2000 Jeronimo Pellegrini wrote:
>:: Sean 'Shaleh' Perry writes:
> 
 you should see a Blackbox/Styles menu.  Look at
 /etc/X11/blackbox/blackbox-menu.
>>> 
>>> Er... This is what I have after a fresh install (and after running
>>> update-menus): 
>>> 
>>> [submenu] (Blackbox) {}
>>> [exit] (Exit)
>>> [reconfig] (Reconfigure)
>>> [restart] (Restart)
>>> [submenu] (Themes) {}
>>> [include] (/usr/share/blackbox/styles/stylesmenu)
>>> [end]
>>> 
> 

mine:

[submenu] (Blackbox) {}
  [config] (Configuration)
  [submenu] (Styles) {}
 [stylesdir] (/usr/share/blackbox/styles)
 [stylesdir] (~/.blackbox/styles)
  [end]
  [workspaces] (Workspaces)
   [end]

> 
> This is strange. I did --purge blackbox and then reinstalled it, so
> the files should all be new, right? 
> 

one would think.  purge it, make sure there is no /etc/X11/blackbox dir, try
again.

Another possibility is that your ~/.blackboxrc points to a different menu file.
 If so, please let me know its name so I can remove it during a purge.

Re: How-to for potato udma66 support?

[Glenn Murray]

On Fri, 29 Dec 2000, Jon Pennington wrote:
> Get the directory
> /debian/dists/potato/main/disks-i386/current/images-1.44/udma66 (this is
> from memory) somewhere local, like a CD-ROM or get them from the ftp
> site.  Then for each of these files:
> 
>  - rescue.bin
>  - root.bin
>  - driver-1.bin
>  - driver-2.bin
>  - driver-3.bin
>  - driver-4.bin
> 
> Insert a blank floppy into /dev/fd0 and type:
> 
>  # dd if=[image].bin of=/dev/fd0
> 
> Repeat until each of the images are on a floppy, and use the first
> floppy (rescue.bin) to boot the machine.

Thanks much, that was all I needed to know.  I wish they had put these
directions in the readme.  Actually I only needed the first two disks:
the installation was smart enough to continue from the CD's from
there.

Thanks again,
Glenn 

apt problems

[Michelle Murrain]

The result of a dumb mistake:

I wanted to upgrade a particular package from woody, and in the middle, it 
stopped because it didn't have a newer copy of libc6. I decided at that point 
that I would forgo the upgrade. However, somehow, part of it got installed 
somehow, and now I can't install anything using apt. I need to figure out how 
to get out of this hole.

Problem: I now have base-passwd installed at a version that requires libc6 
2.1.94, although I only have 2.1.3-13 installed. Whenever I try to apt-get 
anything, I get:

Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies:
  base-passwd: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.1.94) but 2.1.3-13 is to be installed
  mailman: Depends: logrotate but it is not going to be installed   

How do I downgrade my base-passwd, and clear out this mailman/logrotate issue 
(I ended up installing a newer version of mailman from tarball, and didn't 
install logrotate at all)

DON'T tell me to apt-get -f install, because I get a nasty, nasty message 
suggesting that I'll lose big chunks of my system install, including bash!

Michelle

michelle /pe[a]?rl/ murrain
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Re: blackbox - menus and themes

[Jeronimo Pellegrini]

:: Sean 'Shaleh' Perry writes:

>>> you should see a Blackbox/Styles menu.  Look at
>>> /etc/X11/blackbox/blackbox-menu.
>> 
>> Er... This is what I have after a fresh install (and after running
>> update-menus): 
>> 
>> [submenu] (Blackbox) {}
>> [exit] (Exit)
>> [reconfig] (Reconfigure)
>> [restart] (Restart)
>> [submenu] (Themes) {}
>> [include] (/usr/share/blackbox/styles/stylesmenu)
>> [end]
>> 

> /me is confused.  Please do a dpkg -s blackbox and check the
> version.  You should see 0.61.1 as the upstream number.  There is no
> stylesmenu to read, nor is there a submenu called 'Themes'.  In
> blackbox the name is Styles.  Has been since I took over the package
> some 4 - 6 months ago.

Version: 0.61.1-1

This is strange. I did --purge blackbox and then reinstalled it, so
the files should all be new, right? 

J.

-- 
Jeronimo Pellegrini
Institute of Computing - Unicamp - Brazil
http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~jeronimo
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Re: 'testing' & dep conflicts

[Sven Burgener]

On Thu, Dec 28, 2000 at 05:44:55PM -0600, Nathan E Norman wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 29, 2000 at 12:10:41AM +0100, Sven Burgener wrote:
> > 1. Why are packages kept back like follows?

[ snip ]

> First, since you're upgrading from potato to woody (you've changed
> distributions), you should use `apt-get dist-upgrade'.

[ snip ]

> No, now that I look at it the problem is that libc6 is being held
> back.  Try the dist-upgrade method instead.

Righto. Thanks. Yes, that did it.

Sven
-- 
L I N U X   .~.
The Choice  /V\
 of a GNU  /( )\
Generation ^^-^^

Re: blackbox - menus and themes

[Sean 'Shaleh' Perry]

On 29-Dec-2000 Jeronimo Pellegrini wrote:
>:: Sean 'Shaleh' Perry writes:
> 
>>> The styles are installed in /usr/share/blackbox but after running
>>> update-menus, they still do not show up in the menus. I did add links
>>> to them in my ~/.blackbox, and that semes to work.
>>> 
> 
>> you should see a Blackbox/Styles menu.  Look at
>> /etc/X11/blackbox/blackbox-menu.
> 
> Er... This is what I have after a fresh install (and after running
> update-menus): 
> 
>[submenu] (Blackbox) {}
>   [exit] (Exit)
>   [reconfig] (Reconfigure)
>   [restart] (Restart)
>   [submenu] (Themes) {}
>  [include] (/usr/share/blackbox/styles/stylesmenu)
>   [end]
> 

/me is confused.  Please do a dpkg -s blackbox and check the version.  You
should see 0.61.1 as the upstream number.  There is no stylesmenu to read, nor
is there a submenu called 'Themes'.  In blackbox the name is Styles.  Has been
since I took over the package some 4 - 6 months ago.

Re: blackbox - menus and themes

[Jeronimo Pellegrini]

:: Colin Watson writes:


>> Ok... Now, dlocate -S x-terminal-emulator  didn't find
>> anything. Running it starts powershell.

> It wouldn't: x-terminal-emulator is an alternative (see 'man
> update-alternatives') pointing to one of various things like xterm,
> rxvt, Eterm, gnome-terminal, konsole, powershell, and so on. Each of
> these should support some basic set of xterm's options, but not all of
> them do. There was a conversation about it on debian-devel a few months
> back.

> There's an open bug (#74144) against powershell pointing out that it's
> broken in this respect. Until it's fixed, I can only suggest that you
> install something else as your x-terminal-emulator using
> 'update-alternatives --config x-terminal-emulator'.

Thanks a lot! I switched to xterm, which is lighter and better as an
x-terminal-emulator, IMHO.

J.

-- 
Jeronimo Pellegrini
Institute of Computing - Unicamp - Brazil
http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~jeronimo
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Re: blackbox - menus and themes

[Jeronimo Pellegrini]

:: Sean 'Shaleh' Perry writes:

>> The styles are installed in /usr/share/blackbox but after running
>> update-menus, they still do not show up in the menus. I did add links
>> to them in my ~/.blackbox, and that semes to work.
>> 

> you should see a Blackbox/Styles menu.  Look at
> /etc/X11/blackbox/blackbox-menu.

Er... This is what I have after a fresh install (and after running
update-menus): 

   [submenu] (Blackbox) {}
  [exit] (Exit)
  [reconfig] (Reconfigure)
  [restart] (Restart)
  [submenu] (Themes) {}
 [include] (/usr/share/blackbox/styles/stylesmenu)
  [end]

But there's no "stylesmenu" in usr/share/blackbox/styles

blackbox$ ll styles/
total 56
-rw-r--r--1 root root 3255 Oct  9 15:14 Artwiz
-rw-r--r--1 root root 3968 Oct  9 15:14 Cthulhain
-rw-r--r--1 root root 2540 Oct  9 15:14 Flux
-rw-r--r--1 root root 2522 Oct  9 15:14 Minimal
-rw-r--r--1 root root 3078 Oct  9 15:14 Nyz
-rw-r--r--1 root root 2626 Oct  9 15:14 Operation
-rw-r--r--1 root root 3499 Oct  9 15:14 Outcomes
-rw-r--r--1 root root 2851 Oct  9 15:14 Rampage
-rw-r--r--1 root root 2904 Oct  9 15:14 Rancor
-rw-r--r--1 root root 3499 Oct  9 15:14 Results
-rw-r--r--1 root root 2521 Oct  9 15:14 Shade
-rw-r--r--1 root root 3241 Oct  9 15:14 Spiff
-rw-r--r--1 root root 3898 Oct  9 15:14 TDF
-rw-r--r--1 root root 3069 Oct  9 15:14 Twice

Is this a blackbox problem, or a menu problem?

>> $ Error on option -T: unknown option.
>> Run 'x-terminal-emulator --help' to see a full list of available command line
>> options.
>> 

> sounds like xterminal-emulator is called with a -T to try and set the title 
> but
> 'powershell' does not support -T.  I think anything that claims to be a
> x-terminal-emulator has to support -T.

Right! Using xterm as alternative does the trick.

Thanks a lot!


-- 
Jeronimo Pellegrini
Institute of Computing - Unicamp - Brazil
http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~jeronimo
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Re: blackbox - menus and themes

[Colin Watson]

Jeronimo Pellegrini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Can't help with your first problem, but:

> Also, some applications in the menus are text-based, but won't start
> when I click on them; on the console, I get this everytime I try to
> run a text-based app from the menus:
>
>$ Error on option -T: unknown option.
>Run 'x-terminal-emulator --help' to see a full list of available command
>line options.
>
> Ok... Now, dlocate -S x-terminal-emulator  didn't find
> anything. Running it starts powershell.

It wouldn't: x-terminal-emulator is an alternative (see 'man
update-alternatives') pointing to one of various things like xterm,
rxvt, Eterm, gnome-terminal, konsole, powershell, and so on. Each of
these should support some basic set of xterm's options, but not all of
them do. There was a conversation about it on debian-devel a few months
back.

There's an open bug (#74144) against powershell pointing out that it's
broken in this respect. Until it's fixed, I can only suggest that you
install something else as your x-terminal-emulator using
'update-alternatives --config x-terminal-emulator'.

-- 
Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: blackbox - menus and themes

[Sean 'Shaleh' Perry]

On 29-Dec-2000 Jeronimo Pellegrini wrote:
> 
> Hello...
> 
> Something strange happens with blackbox here (this is sid, but the bb
> package is not new, I think):
> 
>  The styles are installed in /usr/share/blackbox but after running
>  update-menus, they still do not show up in the menus. I did add links
>  to them in my ~/.blackbox, and that semes to work.
> 

you should see a Blackbox/Styles menu.  Look at /etc/X11/blackbox/blackbox-menu.

>  Also, some applications in the menus are text-based, but won't start
>  when I click on them; on the console, I get this everytime I try to
>  run a text-based app from the menus:
> 
> $ Error on option -T: unknown option.
> Run 'x-terminal-emulator --help' to see a full list of available command line
> options.
> 

sounds like xterminal-emulator is called with a -T to try and set the title but
'powershell' does not support -T.  I think anything that claims to be a
x-terminal-emulator has to support -T.

Shaleh
Blackbox maintainer

Re: New course for Debian University

[Brian Keck]

On the question of /usr/src/linux & symlinks, Linus sent a couple
of messages to linux-kernel a few months ago ...

Brian Keck

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In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Boszormenyi Zoltan  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>/usr/include/asm is a symlink to /usr/src/linux/include/asm, as in the
>original distribution but /usr/src/linux is a 2.4.0-testX tree.
>With a 2.2.X source tree, it does not produce any warning.

I've asked glibc maintainers to stop the symlink insanity for the last
few years now, but it doesn't seem to happen.

Basically, that symlink should not be a symlink.  It's a symlink for
historical reasons, none of them very good any more (and haven't been
for a long time), and it's a disaster unless you want to be a C library
developer.  Which not very many people want to be.

The fact is, that the header files should match the library you link
against, not the kernel you run on.

Think about it a bit..  Imagine that the kernel introduces a new "struct
X", and maintains binary backwards compatibility by having an old system
call in the old place that gets passed a pointer to "struct old_X".
It's all compatible, because binaries compiled for the old kernel will
still continue to run - they'll use the same old interfaces they are
still used to, and they obviously do not know about the new ones.

Now, if you start mixing a new kernel header file with an old binary
"glibc", you get into trouble.  The new kernel header file will use the
_new_ "struct X", because it will assume that anybody compiling against
it is after the new-and-improved interfaces that the new kernel
provides.

But then you link that program (with the new "struct X") to the binary
library object archives that were compiled with the old header files,
that use the old "struct old_X" (which _used_ to be X), and that use the
old system call entry-points that have the compatibility stuff to take
"struct old_X".

Boom! Do you see the disconnect?

In short, the _only_ people who should update their /usr/include/linux
tree are the people who actually make library releases and compile their
own glibc, because if they want to take advantaged of new kernel
features they need those new definitions. That way there is never any
conflict between the library and the headers, and you never get warnings
like the above..

>Mr. Ulrich Drepper (one of the glibc/gcc guys) gave me a standard
>"don't use kernel headers directly" answer. But neither gcc.c,
>neither the above small program use kernel headers. I suppose he
>referred to /usr/include/linux/* as (I think) he did not understand me.

No. He really meant that you should not use the kernel headers: you
should use the headers that glibc came with. It is probably a redhat bug
that those headers were a symbolic link.

I would suggest that people who compile new kernels should:

 - NOT do so in /usr/src. Leave whatever kernel (probably only the
   header files) that the distribution came with there, but don't touch
   it.

 - compile the kernel in their own home directory, as their very own
   selves. No need to be root to compile the kernel. You need to be root
   to _install_ the kernel, but that's different.

 - not have a single symbolic link in sight (except the one that the
   kernel build itself sets up, namely the "linux/include/asm" symlink
   that is only used for the internal kernel compile itself)

And yes, this is what I do. My /usr/src/linux still has the old 2.2.13
header files, even though I haven't run a 2.2.13 kernel in a _loong_
time. But those headers were what glibc was compiled against, so those
headers are what matches the library object files.

And this is actually what has been the suggested environment for at
least the last five years.  I don't know why the symlink business keeps
on living on, like a bad zombie.  Pretty much every distribution still
has that broken symlink, and people still remember that the linux
sources should go into "/usr/src/linux" even though that hasn't been
true in a _loong_ time.

Is there some documentation file that I've not updated and that people
are slavishly following outdated information in? I don't read the
documentation myself, so I'd never notice ;)

Linus

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blackbox - menus and themes

[Jeronimo Pellegrini]

Hello...

Something strange happens with blackbox here (this is sid, but the bb
package is not new, I think):

 The styles are installed in /usr/share/blackbox but after running
 update-menus, they still do not show up in the menus. I did add links
 to them in my ~/.blackbox, and that semes to work.

 I've tried --purging then reinstalling blackbox, and then running
 update-menus, and that didn't help either.


 Also, some applications in the menus are text-based, but won't start
 when I click on them; on the console, I get this everytime I try to
 run a text-based app from the menus:

$ Error on option -T: unknown option.
Run 'x-terminal-emulator --help' to see a full list of available command line 
options.

 Ok... Now, dlocate -S x-terminal-emulator  didn't find
 anything. Running it starts powershell.


 I think the first problem is a bug (if it's not, maybe someone could
 tell me what I have missed?)

 But the second one doesn't look like a bug... I'm sure I must have
 done something stupid somewhere, but I don't see what it could be.

 Any ideas?

Thanks,
J.

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Re: newbie: 3c905C eth0 card not detected

[Jon Pennington]

D-Man wrote:
> 
> Are you sure about that?  The question was about a 905 series card,
> not a 590 series card.  The 905 series are PCI cards, and I believe
> the 590 series (or was it 509 series?) are ISA.

Quite sure.  The 3c905 and 3c590 are both Cyclone-series cores, I
believe that the 905 is called `Vortex', but I'm not sure.  In short,
the same instructions work for both cards.

> Both 3Com and RedHat say that the 3c905b card does NOT work with
> Linux.  I don't know about the 3c905c.  I bought a much cheaper
> LinkSys card instead and have been very happy with it.

bash-2.04$ /sbin/lspci -v

00:09.0 Ethernet controller: 3Com Corporation 3c905B 100BaseTX [Cyclone]
(rev 30)
Subsystem: 3Com Corporation 3C905B Fast Etherlink XL 10/100
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 11
I/O ports at ec00
Memory at db00 (32-bit, non-prefetchable)
Capabilities: 

bash-2.04$ /sbin/ifconfig 

eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:50:DA:7A:43:F4  
  inet addr:192.168.1.48  Bcast:192.168.1.255 
Mask:255.255.255.0
  UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:134505 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:63350 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:2
  collisions:17 txqueuelen:100 
  Interrupt:11 Base address:0xec00

Looks fine to me :).  At home, though, I have a Linksys LNE100TX, and it
appears to work just as well as the 3Com here at work ;).

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Re: newbie: 3c905C eth0 card not detected

[D-Man]

Are you sure about that?  The question was about a 905 series card,
not a 590 series card.  The 905 series are PCI cards, and I believe
the 590 series (or was it 509 series?) are ISA.

Both 3Com and RedHat say that the 3c905b card does NOT work with
Linux.  I don't know about the 3c905c.  I bought a much cheaper
LinkSys card instead and have been very happy with it.

-D


On Fri, Dec 29, 2000 at 09:46:03AM -0500, Carl Fink wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 29, 2000 at 07:12:36PM +0530, M K Saravanan wrote:
> > 
> > I have been using RH linux. after reading several success stories of debian,
> > decided to switch over to deb.  I installed Debian2.1.  It is not detecting 
> > my
> > ethernet card [3Com 3c905c 10/100]. how to activate it?
> 
> Personally, I did
> 
>   insmod 3c59x
> 
> as root.
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Re: Apache Error: srm.conf

[Nathan E Norman]

On Wed, Dec 27, 2000 at 03:19:13PM -0600, Rob VanFleet wrote:
> Invalid command 'AddDefaultCharsetName', perhaps mis-spelled or defined by a
> module not included in the server configuration
> 
> I'm somewhat leery of removing the offending line, as it seems to be a 
> security
> fix for cross-site scripting.  Here are the values from
> /etc/apache/conf/srm.conf:
> 
> AddDefaultCharset on
> AddDefaultCharsetName iso-8859-1
> 
> Anyone know how to fix this without possibly opening up the server to security
> risks?

According to the online Apache documentation [0], the directive
"AddDefaultCharsetName" does not exist.  The "AddDefaultCharset" line
appears to do the right thing; I don't kow why that other line got in
there.  Comment it out and give it a try.

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[0] http://www.apache.org/docs/mod/core.html#adddefaultcharset


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Re: putting Apache into chroot()-prison

[JoshNarins]

From what I've been able to gather,
chroot can be secure,
   but only if the user can never get root.
FreeBSD's jail had a recent problem.
Mounting /proc inside the chroot is not a good idea.


In a message dated 12/27/00 7:01:21 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


not to discourage youb ut its pretty well known chroot() is not
an ultimate solution for security, it has been in the past
rather easy to break out of it, from what i remember you
may be better off running freebsd and it's jail() (??) 
function which is a suped up chroot(). all im trying to say
is don't expect chroot() to improve seucrity much, a determined
cracker can defeat it(esp on linux) pretty easy. search BUGTRAQ
for the discussions on the latest BIND problems(probably
about 6 months ago..) interesting discussions.

magneto optical, driver support

[Matthieu Paindavoine]

Hello,

Found a pinnacle magneto optical 650. I am looking for a driver. Has
anyone seen one?

Thanks,

Matthieu

Re: New course for Debian University

[Carel Fellinger]

On Fri, Dec 29, 2000 at 10:21:30AM -0600, David A. Rogers wrote:
> On Thu, 28 Dec 2000, Carel Fellinger wrote:

> I understand your comment about fakeroot.  However, I didn't include any
> documentation on it for a couple of reasons.
> 
> First, I've instructed the reader to read the kernel-package documentation
> which includes instructions on how to do that already.  As I state in the
> University principles, I don't want to duplicate existing documentation if
> possible.

But elas, the info I've got on fakeroot is at least confusing:( At one place
you're told to use "fakeroot command..." and somewhere else you'll find
something like "command -use-fakeroot-option..." advertised as sometimes
configure and friends don't work with fakeroot. And elas again I didn't
manage to get the latter variant to work.  In other words I just hoped to
get better info at the university, like you did with modules.  The info
on modules *can* be found elsewere, but take a lot of digging.

> Second, I really think that the use of fakeroot, in this case, is being
> unnecessarily cautious.  I agree that one should not login as root (normally),
> but I see no harm in using su or sudo in an xterm window for the purpose of
> building a new kernel - especially in light of the fact that my intended
> audience is home users with dialup systems.  They have a lot less security
> risk (and need for security measures) than the average business box.
> 
> I am open to discussion, however.  If you can give me compelling reasons that
> a home user should use fakeroot whilst building a kernel, please do.

That might be, but on the other hand *especially* the audience you address
is likely to be no expert, and hence should really be urged in all circum-
stances to refrain from becomming root.  Just a matter of consistent
upbringing, not so much a security maesure in this case.

> On the other topic, the kernel-package does state that
> /usr/src/kernel-source-etc is an acceptable location for the kernel source.
> If anyone can give a compelling reason not to make the linux symlink, I will
> listen.

In an other thread no-one came forth with such compelling reasons, so
I think I remembered incorrectly and that link is alright after all.

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Re: Switching between KDE & Helix-Gnome

[Noah L. Meyerhans]

On Fri, Dec 29, 2000 at 05:10:48PM +0100, Holger Rauch wrote:
> > You don't need KDM in order to start KDE, nor do you need GDM to start
> > GNOME.  Either of these display managers will allow you to choose a
> > "session" from a menu when you log in.  
> 
> If I understand you right, it is probably best to do completely without a
> display manager and instead use an ".xsession" file in my home directory
> from which I start the corresponding session. What script do I have to
> execute for starting Helix Gnome?

No, not at all.  That will work, of course.  It will even work if you
use a display manager.  What I am saying is that both KDM and GDM
provide a menu with which you can choose a session to run when you log
in.  Which display manager are you using?  If you're using gdm, here's
how to set things up:

Create a script in /etc/X11/gdm called KDE.  That script needs to
contain nothing but the following
#!/bin/sh
exec /usr/bin/kde2

## end of script.

Don't forget to chmod +x the script.

Now, when you log out, if you look at the sessions menu in gdm you'll
see an option for KDE.  If you select that option and log in, you'll be
running KDE.  If you leave the menu alone, you'll go to whatever you'd
previously been using.

All this stuff works system-wide.  Using the same method you can easily
create a session script for whatever window managers you have installed
and easily switch between them when logging in.

Doing this with KDM is, I'm sure, very similar.  I can't give you
specifics, though, as I don't use it.

HTH,
noah
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RE: DHCP Client

[Sean 'Shaleh' Perry]

On 29-Dec-2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> How do ou make the dhcp client only listen on one eth*?  Whenever dhcp
> client is tarted it listens on every network interface on the system, how
> do I change this?
> 

edit /etc/init.d/ script.  Each one has an argument for which eth to
listen on.  For pump it is -i eth0.

Greek fonts in X - how?

[Anthony Campbell]

I installed the Greek X fonts from from Potato but when I use them the
characters are still in Latin type. What else needs to be done to make
them appear in Greek?

Anthony

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Re: New course for Debian University

[David A. Rogers]

Carel,

Thanks for your input.  I appreciate knowing what people think of the
document.


On Thu, 28 Dec 2000, Carel Fellinger wrote:

> On Wed, Dec 27, 2000 at 08:12:05PM -0600, David A. Rogers wrote:
> > Kernel 150 - Compiling the kernel - is open for enrollment (The Debian
> > University document has been updated to include information on compiling the
> > kernel in the Debian way).
> >
> > Debian University can be found at:
> >
> > http://home.xnet.com/~darogers/debian_university.txt
>
> Nice initiative.
>

Thanks.


> > make-kpkg is very nice and makes compiling the kernel as easy as it can get
>
> I think it would be wise (and more debian like:) to explain how to
> compile the kernel as *non* root using fakeroot.  Furthermore I seem
> to recall discussions on this list that it's better to refrain from
> using/creating that /usr/src/linux link.


I understand your comment about fakeroot.  However, I didn't include any
documentation on it for a couple of reasons.

First, I've instructed the reader to read the kernel-package documentation
which includes instructions on how to do that already.  As I state in the
University principles, I don't want to duplicate existing documentation if
possible.

Second, I really think that the use of fakeroot, in this case, is being
unnecessarily cautious.  I agree that one should not login as root (normally),
but I see no harm in using su or sudo in an xterm window for the purpose of
building a new kernel - especially in light of the fact that my intended
audience is home users with dialup systems.  They have a lot less security
risk (and need for security measures) than the average business box.

I am open to discussion, however.  If you can give me compelling reasons that
a home user should use fakeroot whilst building a kernel, please do.

On the other topic, the kernel-package does state that
/usr/src/kernel-source-etc is an acceptable location for the kernel source.
If anyone can give a compelling reason not to make the linux symlink, I will
listen.

Cheers,
dar

Re: PS Help ISP/Fetchmail

[Jonathan Gift]

On Fri, Dec 29, 2000 at 07:46:00AM -0800, Michael Epting wrote:
> 
> >From 'man fetchmail':
>The -L  or --logfile  option (keyword:
>set logfile) allows you to redirect status messages  emit-
>ted  while  detached  into a specified logfile (follow the
>option with the logfile name).  The logfile is opened  for
>append, so previous messages aren't deleted.  This is pri-
>marily useful for debugging configurations.

Thanks. I had been using the set syslog option in .fetchmailrc and then
fetchmail -vv to get the info. I'll try your log. Thanks.

Jonathan

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Re: Help Fetchmail Expected Length error?

[Jonathan Gift]

On Fri, Dec 29, 2000 at 03:48:35PM +0100, Carel Fellinger wrote:
> 
> In that case, have you tried a different program to get yoyr mail from
> your IPS, like mutt's build in pop, or even netscape, just to verify
> that it's not fetchmail specific?

Good point and first thing I did. It seems they work. But so did
Fetchmail before my ISP's mails ystem went broke and i now fixed...
Clearly they changed some parameters that seem acceptable to most other
systems, ie those using Windows. So far the best solution has been
lowering the mtr/mtu rates to those recommended in the FAQ. I'm getting
mail now and keeping my fingers crosses.

Still have the unexpected length errors but so does another, so I figure
that's exim maybe. Like to know what...

I'll post again if the problel still isn't fixed. thanks for all your
help.

Jonathan

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Re: Switching between KDE & Helix-Gnome

[Holger Rauch]

Hi Noah!

Thanks a lot for your quick reply!

On Fri, 29 Dec 2000, Noah L. Meyerhans wrote:

> You don't need KDM in order to start KDE, nor do you need GDM to start
> GNOME.  Either of these display managers will allow you to choose a
> "session" from a menu when you log in.  

If I understand you right, it is probably best to do completely without a
display manager and instead use an ".xsession" file in my home directory
from which I start the corresponding session. What script do I have to
execute for starting Helix Gnome?

Thanks!

Greetings,

Holger

DHCP Client

[gregh]

How do ou make the dhcp client only listen on one eth*?  Whenever dhcp
client is tarted it listens on every network interface on the system, how
do I change this?

later,
greg

Re: mount: fs type vfat not supported by kernel ??

[Jon Pennington]

Jack O Max wrote:
> 
> Recently, I have rebuild my kernel.
> 
> Everything runs fine, except I try to mount the floppy
> disk...
> 
> mount /dev/fd0 -t vfat /mnt
> mount: fs type vfat not supported by kernel
> 
> Which module should I included to fix this problem?

Try the module `vfat' ;)

>From the .config file in the Linux source tree:

  CONFIG_VFAT_FS=m

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Re: PS Help ISP/Fetchmail

[Michael Epting]

> > > yes. ("man fetchmail" could explain it better).
> > Yes, I add it to the command line. Any way to log that? And see it, so
> > not just "fetchmail >Log"?
> Not sure, but I would say "fetchmail -vv 2>&1 | tee Log"

>From 'man fetchmail':
   The -L  or --logfile  option (keyword:
   set logfile) allows you to redirect status messages  emit-
   ted  while  detached  into a specified logfile (follow the
   option with the logfile name).  The logfile is opened  for
   append, so previous messages aren't deleted.  This is pri-
   marily useful for debugging configurations.

Re: mount: fs type vfat not supported by kernel ??

[ktb]

On Fri, Dec 29, 2000 at 07:34:38AM -0800, Jack O Max wrote:
> Recently, I have rebuild my kernel.
> 
> Everything runs fine, except I try to mount the floppy
> disk...
> 
> mount /dev/fd0 -t vfat /mnt
> mount: fs type vfat not supported by kernel
> 
> Which module should I included to fix this problem?
> 

vfat
kent

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mount: fs type vfat not supported by kernel ??

[Jack O Max]

Recently, I have rebuild my kernel.

Everything runs fine, except I try to mount the floppy
disk...

mount /dev/fd0 -t vfat /mnt
mount: fs type vfat not supported by kernel

Which module should I included to fix this problem?


Thanks in advance.
Jack

p.s. I had already enabled the module for MSDOS
filesystem in the new kernel.

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Re: Mail only account

[Jon Pennington]

Sergio Matos wrote:
> 
> How can I create mail only accounts on linux?
> Thanks for the help,
> 
> Sérgio Matos

This may not be the proper way to handle it, but I use this.  After
adding the user, /etc/passwd shows:

  jpennington:x:1004:102:Jon Pennington,,,:/home/jpennington:/bin/bash

I simply change the information so that the user has no shell, and has
no home directory:

  jpennington:x:1004:102:Jon Pennington,,,:/dev/null:/bin/false

They still have access to the FTP/NNTP/UUCP servers in many situations,
but it doesn't matter because they have no place to store files.

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Re: newbie: 3c905C eth0 card not detected

[Jon Pennington]

M K Saravanan wrote:
> 
> hi,
> 
> I have been using RH linux. after reading several success stories of debian,
> decided to switch over to deb.  I installed Debian2.1.  It is not detecting my
> ethernet card [3Com 3c905c 10/100]. how to activate it?

I hope you can get a copy of Debian 2.2 soon; 2.1 (Slink) is ancient. 
Add `3c59x' to the file /etc/modules, and the module for your card will
be inserted the next time you boot.  Alternately, you could add `alias
eth0 3c59x' to /etc/modutils/local and run update-modules, which does
almost the same thing, except that it only loads the module when eht0 is
activated instead of at boot time.

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Re: How to make a new rescue boot disk for new Kernel?

[Jon Pennington]

Jack O Max wrote:
> 
> Can someone tech me step by step to create a new escue
> boot disk in Debian after I built a new Kernel 2.2.18 ?

If you used make-kpkg (see the thread `New course for Debian
University), and used dpkg to install the new kernel-image package, dpkg
will ask you if you'd like to make a new floppy.  Alternatively, you
could go into your kernel-source directory at type:

 # make bzdisk

With a blank floppy in fd0.  This will put your new kernel onto a floppy
for you, and make it bootable.  If you're referring to making a
rescue/root set, this is quite a bit more complicated, and should be
referred to debian-boot.

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Re: How-to for potato udma66 support?

[Jon Pennington]

Glenn Murray wrote:
> 
> Let me rephrase the question.  How do you use
> the udma66 support files contained in the
> potato distribution to install on a
> computer using a Promise Ultra 66 card?
> I can't find any documentation on these
> files anywhere, and it's driving me nuts.

Get the directory
/debian/dists/potato/main/disks-i386/current/images-1.44/udma66 (this is
from memory) somewhere local, like a CD-ROM or get them from the ftp
site.  Then for each of these files:

 - rescue.bin
 - root.bin
 - driver-1.bin
 - driver-2.bin
 - driver-3.bin
 - driver-4.bin

Insert a blank floppy into /dev/fd0 and type:

 # dd if=[image].bin of=/dev/fd0

Repeat until each of the images are on a floppy, and use the first
floppy (rescue.bin) to boot the machine.

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Re: Sendmail

[Mark Brown]

On Fri, Dec 29, 2000 at 02:45:25PM +, Sergio Matos wrote:

[Please trim material not needed for context - there's no need to
replicate the entire message to which you're replying]

> I want to prevent users from the intranet to send mail to the internet.

Presumably this could be done by not allowing your mail server to relay
mail for machines on the intranet.

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Re: Apache Error: srm.conf

[Florian Reiser]

On Wed, Dec 27, 2000 at 03:19:13PM -0600, Rob VanFleet wrote:
> 
> Apache has been running fine for some time now, and for some reason (I suppose
> it was from something being upgraded, but I don't remember seeing anything
> apache related) I'm now getting this error whenever attempting to start 
> apache:
> 
> Syntax error on line 133 of /etc/apache/srm.conf:
> Invalid command 'AddDefaultCharsetName', perhaps mis-spelled or defined by a
> module not included in the server configuration
> 
> I'm somewhat leery of removing the offending line, as it seems to be a 
> security
> fix for cross-site scripting.  Here are the values from
> /etc/apache/conf/srm.conf:
> 
> AddDefaultCharset on
> AddDefaultCharsetName iso-8859-1
> 
> Anyone know how to fix this without possibly opening up the server to security
> risks?
> 
> -Rob
> 
> 

This error occurs on my computer, too. It appeared after an update of apache, a
few days ago.

-Florian

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Mail only account

[Sergio Matos]

How can I create mail only accounts on linux?
Thanks for the help,

Sérgio Matos

Re: Help Fetchmail Expected Length error?

[Carel Fellinger]

On Fri, Dec 29, 2000 at 03:16:41PM +0100, Jonathan Gift wrote:

> > Note that I'm by no means an expert on mail, but anyhow...
> > This socket/length error makes me think that something goes wrong
> > in the local smtp connection (don't know, just guessing:).
> > If so you could try to shortcircuit it a little with the 'mda' option
> > set to "/usr/bin/procmail  -d %T".  This bypasses exim (and the smtp
> > socket). This option is a fetchmail 'user' option, so put it in the
> > appropriate place after "user ...".  Hope this works as a temporary
> > solution.
> 
>  I don't think the problem is there, my fault for not showing all the
>  logs... But I was getting errors before it even got to the mail, much
>  less sorted and downloaded it...

In that case, have you tried a different program to get yoyr mail from
your IPS, like mutt's build in pop, or even netscape, just to verify
that it's not fetchmail specific?

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Re: Sendmail

[Sergio Matos]

Mark Brown wrote:

> On Thu, Dec 28, 2000 at 04:53:45PM +, Sergio Matos wrote:
>
> > I'm needing help about sendmail.
> > How can I config sendmail to reject mails to outside my domain?
>
> What exactly is it you're trying to do?  If you're trying to prevent
> non-local users from submitting mail to it then that should be the case
> with a default configuration - it will reject all non-local mail unless
> it's been told otherwise (eg, it's the final destination).
>
> You may wish to consider using another MTA instead of sendmail - it's
> probably the hardest Unix MTA to configure.  Other MTAs like Postfix or
> Exim can be much simpler.
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I want to prevent users from the intranet to send mail to the internet.
Thanks,

Sérgio Matos