Re: ghost for linux?

2001-03-02 Thread MaD dUCK
also sprach Carel Fellinger (on Sat, 03 Mar 2001 02:17:44AM +0100):
 reading your reaction gives me the eery feeling I've missed what
 this thread was about.  To me that's the single most horrible thing
 that comes from mailing-lists instead of plain good old netnews,
 you loose context easily.  I know I should delve into mutt's
 capacity to filter messages for me, but I've never found how I can
 have mutt toggle display af read messages, which is easy in any
 decent newsreader.

i'd use procmail instead as it is more the unix philosophy to let that
program which is dedicated to mail filtering do the mail filtering,
and mutt, the mail reader, do the mail reading. however, aside from
threading and the tab key to skip between unread messages, i don't
think mutt can filter or sort by message status. i usually just delete
messages i read on mailing lists (they are archived), or move messages
to a read folder when i took the appropriate action (reply etc...)

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Re: X 4.0 Upgrade /etc/X11/X ?

2001-03-02 Thread Terry Hancock
Thanks! This was the problem.  Now I have X windows
again.  Some other stuff is not working completely
(the fonts look _bad_ all of a sudden), but I'm 
running again.
Thanks for the help (and in 15 minutes, too!),
Aaron and the two others who replied.

Terry Hancock


  Indeed, there is no /etc/X11/X, but I don't know
 what
  should be there.  Is it a symlink?  If so, to
 what?
 
 
 This file should be a symlink to your xserver. Under
 xfree86 4, it
 should look like this:
 
 X - /usr/X11R6/bin/XFree86
 
 If you're running xfree86 3, it will point to
 XF86_driver such as
 XF86_SVGA for a generic video card.


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Re: an awful mutt thing just happened

2001-03-02 Thread Colin Watson
Peter Jay Salzman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
you know how you hit c to open other mailboxes and it says:

   Open mailbox ('?' for list):

well, i can no longer use '?' to see the list of mailboxes.  it does
nothing; it simply drops me back to the main mailbox index.

the only thing i can think of is that i *just* updated woody using apt-get.
i don't know if mutt was one of the packages that got updated.

does some kind soul have any ideas what might be going on?

Always check bug reports when you're running testing/unstable :)

http://bugs.debian.org/86228, and two other bugs. c TAB is a
workaround.

now that i can't access my mailboxes, can you cc this account with a reply?

Done.

debian-user goes to a folder (via procmail), and the only way i have to read
my debian mail is by using vi on the mailbox it gets sent to.

Surely you could type the folder name in manually, even without knowing
the TAB trick?

a second wierd mutt thing.  as root, when i run mutt, it says:

   /var/spool/mail/root: Permission denied (errno = 13)

Not sure, I redirect root mail to a mailbox in my unprivileged account.

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Re: i18n and fonts

2001-03-02 Thread Glenn Becker

 What's the output of the following:
 
 $ locale

LANG=C
LC_CTYPE=C
LC_NUMERIC=C
LC_TIME=C
LC_COLLATE=C
LC_MONETARY=C
LC_MESSAGES=C
LC_PAPER=C
LC_NAME=C
LC_ADDRESS=C
LC_TELEPHONE=C
LC_MEASUREMENT=C
LC_IDENTIFICATION=C
LC_ALL=C

... this is what I set it to with the command 

export LC_ALL=C

Glenn

 
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Re: correct files

2001-03-02 Thread Robert Tucker
ktb wrote:

 Assuming i386 and your going to do an install off the Internet -
 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/stable/main/disks-i386/current/images-1.44/

 Snag, at minimum -
 rescue.bin
 root.bin

 Read this section again -
 http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch-install-methods.en.html
 hth,
 kent


After reading the above ref. I am curious as to getting on-line after I boot 
into
Linux. Do I need to have some files available beyond rescue.bin and root.bin?
dbootstrap is mentioned as the program to use to continue installing. Do I need 
this
file or is it part of the two previously mentioned files? Do I need a copy of 
fdisk
or is it contained within rescue or root? Do I need the base-x.bin files? 
AND... Can
I download the files to my current C: drive, replace the C: drive with a new 
hard
drive as C: and then plug the old C: back into the system a D: drive and access 
it
and the files it contains?

Wow... Do I know what the hell I'm doing?

Thanks for your input. Hope you don't feel overwhelmed by all these questions!


Robert



Re: AARGGGHHHH! no X in Woody

2001-03-02 Thread David Purton
On Thu, 1 Mar 2001, Martin Fluch wrote:

 
 
 
 On Thu, 1 Mar 2001, Matheson Cameron wrote:
 
  Hey,
  
  I can't get X windows to work in Woody.  xdm doesn't
  start on its own, and if I try 'startx', it says:
  
  X: cannot stat /etc/X11/X (N such file or directory),
 
 Is the file /etc/X11/X present? It sould be a link to an Xserver, in my
 case it is:
 
/etc/X11/X - /usr/bin/X11/XF86_SVGA
 

btw this is not the X4 server, link /etc/X11/X to /usr/X11R6/bin/XFree86



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Re: correct files

2001-03-02 Thread MaD dUCK
also sprach Robert Tucker (on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 05:41:24AM -0800):
 After reading the above ref. I am curious as to getting on-line
 after I boot into Linux. Do I need to have some files available
 beyond rescue.bin and root.bin? dbootstrap is mentioned as the
 program to use to continue installing. Do I need this file or is it
 part of the two previously mentioned files? Do I need a copy of
 fdisk or is it contained within rescue or root? Do I need the

depends on your network card and/or how you access the web. i myself
have never used the boot disk set because i always had the cds, but i
think debian's pretty good about making an FTP install really easy.

 base-x.bin files? AND... Can I download the files to my current C:
 drive, replace the C: drive with a new hard drive as C: and then
 plug the old C: back into the system a D: drive and access it and
 the files it contains?

first of all, forget the C: and D: windoze stuff. IDE harddisks in
linux are /dev/hda (primary master), /dev/hdb (primary slave),
/dev/hdc (secondary master), and /dev/hdd (secondary slave). to answer
your question: of course you can. leave the old drive out as long as
you are doing weird stuff with the new drive, and once it's back and
running, then proceed to put the old drive in on the secondary channel
(or as a slave), add entries similar to the /etc/fstab file on the old
harddrive to the new /etc/fstab file, properly changing the partition
name with respect to the third character: a, b, c, or d. create a
directory /like /root/old and then set this to be the mount point of
the old root. mount all other partitions as children of /root/old, and
you should be all set.

if i were where you are i'd tell you to bribe me with a beer and i'd
show you. it's a whole lot of theory that needs to be understood
first. but once you get the hang, well, you got the hang!

do you have means of accessing the web / this mailing list even if you
were to completely screw over your system?

martin

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Re: Setting Up Partitions:Solved,Thanks

2001-03-02 Thread Ian Thomas
I finished installing the system.  I got all the
partitions working after having to use expert mode in
fdisk.  I then jumped back into the debian curses
install and it went right on to the next step, no
problems.  That is a very robust installer.  As of
right now I am booting from floppy until I get pppd up
and running so I can download GRUB and installed. 
Apt-get looks great and seems like it will make the
transition form FreeBSD ports very easy.

Ian

I look forward to the day that I can offer helpful
advice to other users.  Thanks for the quick
responses.
--- kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote:
 on Mon, Feb 26, 2001 at 08:09:56AM -0800, Ian Thomas
 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
  I have a copy of Debian 2.1 Slink that I am
 trying
  to install to a second harddrive.
  
  I just recently found out on a website that
 cfdisk
  cannot create extended partitions.  I attempted to
 do
  this when I was installing by changing the
 partition
  type to extended, but when it wrote the table it
 still
  had them listed as linux native.  This is what I
 want
  to do..
  
  hdb1 (this is already my freebsd swap partition)
  hdb2 /boot (this will be a primary partition)
  hdb3 (extended partition containing logical
 slices)
  hdb5 / 
  hdb6 /var 
  hdb7 /tmp
  hdb8 /home
  hdb9 /usr 
  
  My swap space will go on my third drive.  I
  thought about just doing Alt-Ctrl-F2 to get a
 prompt,
  run fdisk and create the partition table that way,
  then continue with the curses based install.  Is
 that
  correct?  Also I have read that linux cannot boot
 from
  an extended partition, is this true?  If not I can
 put
  all of the slices in one exteneded partition.  If
 I am
  using the wrong terminology it is because I have
 only
  really used BSD's and am used to disklabel.
 
 There are several HOWTOs addressing partitioning
 issues, including some
 thoughts on arranging partitions across one or more
 disks for optimal
 performance (unless you're doing high-end processing
 you'll likely not
 notice).
 
 I've compiled my own notes at
 


http://kmself.home.netcom.com/Linux/FAQs/partition.html
 
 ...regarding suggested sizes.
 
 Your thoughts on switching to a shell during the
 install process and
 creating your partitions is a good method.  I
 believe recent Debian
 installs also provide the option to run a
 partitioning utility during
 the installation process.
 
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Re: after 'su -', 'Can't open display'

2001-03-02 Thread Ron Peterson


 When I start X Windows, using the KDE window manager, I change to root
 (with su - )
 for administrative tasks.  However I seem unable to run X window
 applications.
 
 Whatever X application  I try to run, I inevitably get a message similar
 to ... unable to open display.

Try this.  While logged in as yourself, type 'xauth nexport - $DISPLAY 
myxauth' (sans quotes, of course).  Then become root, and type 'xauth
nmerge myxauth'.  Then delete myxauth.

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remote printing

2001-03-02 Thread Michael P. Soulier
Hey people. I need some help getting remote printing to work. I have a
print server with a local printer attached. I used magicfilter and now it
works great. Now, I'd like to be able to use lpr to remotely print to it like
I do at work. 

My local /etc/printcap is

lp|Remote printer entry:\
:lp=:\
:rm=jumpgate:\
:rp=lp:\
:sd=/var/spool/lpd/remote:\
:mx#0:\
:sh:

The print server is jumpgate, and it's printer is named lp. I have a
/etc/hosts.lpd file on the print server containing the hostname of my client.
However, when I print, I get:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] msoulier]$ lpr mail.out 
lpr: connect: Connection refused
jobs queued, but cannot start daemon.

I've checked, the the lpd daemon is running on both machines.

What am I missing?

Thanks,

Mike

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anyone have a epson stylus photo 870 working?

2001-03-02 Thread Ethan Benson

see subject, all the documentation i have been following on
linuxprinting.org involves ghostscript, which is broken on debian.
(see my other mail, all it does when run by lpd is spit out svgalib:
Cannot get I/O permissions.) 

if anyone has gotten this or a similar model working on debian could
you tell me what you did?  (i did not find anything useful in the list
archives)  

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Re: Setting Up Partitions:Solved,Thanks

2001-03-02 Thread MaD dUCK
also sprach Ian Thomas (on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 06:42:29PM -0800):
   hdb1 (this is already my freebsd swap partition)
   hdb2 /boot (this will be a primary partition)
   hdb3 (extended partition containing logical  slices)
   hdb5 / 
   hdb6 /var 
   hdb7 /tmp
   hdb8 /home
   hdb9 /usr 

just a quickie, but given the geometry of a disk, you'd want the high
usage partitions up front, so i think you should move usr to hda6 and
shift the others...

martin

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RE: have you seen this driver?

2001-03-02 Thread Rob Zietlow
For the Aureal.  Take a look on sourceforge.net I saw it out there when I
had to get it. You will have to compile it yourself.  It used to be at
linux.aureal.com  but they went out of business, but the driver modules are
at sourceforge. I had no problems compiling and installing it and it worked
great.

-Original Message-
From: D. Hoyem [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 02, 2001 1:31 PM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: have you seen this driver?


I downloaded a driver for the Aureal Sound Card, to a
windows drive, from somewhere and I'll be  if I
can find it again.  When I tried to install it, it
complained about the added junk.. It was named
au88xx-kernel-source-1.1.2_i386.deb  has anyone
seen this driver??
  Also the Debian based Corel Linux says that it uses
the Creative Sound Blaster AWE64 does the potato
distro   have access to that?
TIA
Don

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Re: remote printing

2001-03-02 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On Fri, Mar 02, 2001 at 10:24:08PM -0500, Michael P. Soulier wrote:
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] msoulier]$ lpr mail.out 
 lpr: connect: Connection refused
 jobs queued, but cannot start daemon.
 
 I've checked, the the lpd daemon is running on both machines.
 
 What am I missing?

Ah, got it. I ran the lpd restart but it actually didn't restart. The old 
one just kept running and the pid file was stale. 

Mike

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Re: It's MY computer, not Bill's!

2001-03-02 Thread will trillich
On Fri, Mar 02, 2001 at 02:00:06PM -0500, MaD dUCK wrote:
 vmware allows you to run windoze on top of linux. or any operating
 system as a matter of fact. and pvm is distributed processing, i
 really just threw it in to emphasize that i don't see a place for
 computer games in the life of any person who is enthusiastic about
 linux.

ANY operating system? would that include mac os x? :)
seriously, would it do mac os 8 or 9?

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Re: kill: cannot kill some processes

2001-03-02 Thread Ron Peterson
William T Wilson wrote:
 
 On Thu, 22 Feb 2001, brian moore wrote:
 
   does the process list Z under STAT ? if it is the process has gone
   zombied and i don't think there is much you can do. sometimes zombie'd
   processes die on their own eventually many times they will not die until
   you reboot ..
 
  Not quite true... zombies don't ever die: they're already dead.
 
 While the description of zombie processes is accurate, I think another
 likely situation is that the process is in uninterruptible sleep, i.e.
 the 'D' state.  This happens when a process is blocked in a system call -
 it will be 'D' until the kernel function returns.  Kernel bugs, hardware
 problems, and dead NFS mounts can cause these kernel functions to take
 a long time or forever.
 
 In such a case, you really are stuck; unless the resource the process is
 waiting for frees up, it's going to hang around until a reboot.
 
 One thing about zombie process: Don't worry about trying to make them go
 away.  They don't consume any CPU time, or any other resources other than
 the slot in the process table and the less than 1K of memory required to
 hold their state information.  They are not worth worrying about.

Not entirely true.  Init can inherit enough zombie processes that it
hits its process limit (1024, if I remember correctly).  Can you
'shutdown'?  Nope.  Not unless you can free up a slot.  And if
something's going haywire and spawning zombies quickly, this can be a
problem.

Not a common occurance, though...

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Re: Reconstructing Var?

2001-03-02 Thread will trillich
On Fri, Mar 02, 2001 at 03:07:58PM -0900, Ethan Benson wrote:
 On Fri, Mar 02, 2001 at 06:52:17PM +, Matthew Sackman wrote:
  
  When /var went down, I was able to tar and bzip2 up /home /etc /root
  and drop them into a windows partition which meant that I lost no real
 
 why did you do that? if you have seperate partitions there is no need
 to back them up, just don't initialize them in the debian installer.
 mount them instead.  

what ethan means, is, altho there's probably a good reason to
back up just about anything, you don't have to reset your
partitions when you reinstall debian, even from a cd-boot. like
he said, just MOUNT already-initialized (and filled with booty)
partitions and you're off to the races...

backup whatever you want to back up. early. and often. take it
from the department of redundancy department. backups are a Good
Thing.

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apt-get testing

2001-03-02 Thread MaD dUCK
hey, how can i use apt-get to get something like postfix-0.0.20010228-1
out of testing? i have testing/main and some other testing's in my
sources.list, but

apt-get --download-only install testing/postfix

doesn't work, and

apt-get --download-only install postfix

reports that postfix is already installed...

martin

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Re: It's MY computer, not Bill's!

2001-03-02 Thread MaD dUCK
also sprach will trillich (on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 09:47:12PM -0600):
 ANY operating system? would that include mac os x? :)
 seriously, would it do mac os 8 or 9?

don't quote me on it, but i don't think so. i should have said - any
operating system that runs on x86.

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Re: compiling a program

2001-03-02 Thread Ron Peterson
Philipp Bliedung wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I have simple question concerning compiling a programm 
 When I compile a program from the sources and it beakes for whatever
 reason, how can I get rid of all the files that were created so far or
 how can I remove this 'broken' program ?  Is there anything like
 'apt-get -f install' which is used for .deb files ?

If the maintainer put a make directive (e.g. 'make uninstall') to do so
in their makefile perhaps.  Otherwise not usually.

You can review what happened during a 'make install' (or any other make
command, for that matter), by using make's -n option.  I.E. - 'make -n
install'.  This will just echo what would happen, without really doing
it.

Problems like these are why package management systems exist.

 And how can I find out if a new version of a package, for example libc6,
 depends on any other package? For example I tried to compile a
 movie-player but it needed a newer version of libc6, which I don't have,
 so how can I find out if I need any other package for libc6 to work?
 (I'm still using the 2.2.17 kernel...)

Build it and read the error messages.  They are not always easy to
decipher, especially if you don't know the language.  Again a good
reason to use package management systems.  Of course, that's not always
an option...

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manually installing mozilla plugins

2001-03-02 Thread Matheson Cameron
Hey,

I was wondering if their was a way to manually install
mozilla plugins.  I need the java one, but I can't get
it because I can't get FTP to work with my proxy
server (help with that too please).  I did manage to
download it from a Windoze machine (the proxy server),
and so now I have a file named 'jre.xpi'.  I don't
know what to do with it though.  Any ideas?

Thanks,
Cameron Matheson

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Re: Setting Up Partitions:Solved,Thanks

2001-03-02 Thread kmself
on Fri, Mar 02, 2001 at 10:22:47PM -0500, MaD dUCK ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 also sprach Ian Thomas (on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 06:42:29PM -0800):
hdb1 (this is already my freebsd swap partition)
hdb2 /boot (this will be a primary partition)
hdb3 (extended partition containing logical  slices)
hdb5 / 
hdb6 /var 
hdb7 /tmp
hdb8 /home
hdb9 /usr 
 
 just a quickie, but given the geometry of a disk, you'd want the high
 usage partitions up front, so i think you should move usr to hda6 and
 shift the others...

Advice I've heard (no emperical evidence myself) is that higher
utilization is best placed toward the physical midpoint of the disk
radius.  This tends to equalize head movement in and out.  Unless heads
park in either an inboard or outboard position?

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Re: Setting Up Partitions:Solved,Thanks

2001-03-02 Thread MaD dUCK
also sprach kmself@ix.netcom.com (on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 08:08:47PM -0800):
 Advice I've heard (no emperical evidence myself) is that higher
 utilization is best placed toward the physical midpoint of the disk
 radius.  This tends to equalize head movement in and out.  Unless heads
 park in either an inboard or outboard position?

mh. interesting. this is news to me...

martin

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Dual boot, multiple kernels, sytem map problem (was Re: Switching between two file systems.)

2001-03-02 Thread kmself
on Fri, Mar 02, 2001 at 06:39:54PM -0500, Fu-Dong Chiou ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:
 kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote:
  
  on Wed, Feb 28, 2001 at 12:03:02PM -0500, Fu-Dong Chiou ([EMAIL PROTECTED]
  edu) wrote:
   Hi,
  
   I have a problem.  I have RedHat on /dev/hd1, and Debian on /dev/hd5
   (that I just transferred from another HD).  The problem is, when I
   boot into Debian, the system.map of RedHat is still being used, and
   I got a lot of warning messages.  Is there a way that I get around
   this problem?  Thanks!
  
  Post your /etc/lilo.conf file, and possibly, your disk partitioning
  scheme.
  
 
 Sorry, I should have done that.
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~#more /etc/lilo.conf 
 boot=/dev/hda
 map=/boot/map
  ^

Is this the system map you're referring to?

If so, I'm not sure I can answer your question -- you're using different
kernels for each system.  I'm not aware of a way to specify per-stanza
boot maps, but then, I haven't really tried.  Have you considered an
alternative boot method for Debian -- say a boot floppy or lilo floppy?

 install=/boot/boot.b
 prompt
 timeout=30
 message=/boot/message
 linear
 default=RedHat7
 
 image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.16-22
 label=RedHat7
 read-only
 root=/dev/hda1
 
 image=/boot/vmlinuz
 label=Debian
 read-only
 root=/dev/hda5
 
 Disk /dev/hda: 240 heads, 63 sectors, 662 cylinders
 Units = cylinders of 15120 * 512 bytes
 
Device BootStart   EndBlocks   Id  System
 /dev/hda1   * 1   271   2048728+  83  Linux
 /dev/hda2   272   661   29484005  Extended
 /dev/hda5   *   272   542   2048728+  83  Linux
 /dev/hda6   543   650816448+  83  Linux
 /dev/hda7   651   661 83128+  82  Linux swap
 
 
 Chip
 

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Re: It's MY computer, not Bill's!

2001-03-02 Thread kmself
on Fri, Mar 02, 2001 at 02:00:06PM -0500, MaD dUCK ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 also sprach Robert Tucker (on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 10:14:44PM -0800):
  Ok... Now, what is vmware? And pvm? I see I have a lot of
  memorization to do. I have two other computers (both 486's) and I
  plan to initially net them and leave them W95. What is the general
  outline of using a Linux machine to run Windows games?
 
 vmware allows you to run windoze on top of linux. or any operating
 system as a matter of fact. 

Not so fast.  Many OSs which run on x86 hardware.  Not all.  Though
support is improving.  BeOS took a while to get up.  OS/2 still isn't
supported.  Not sure about Amiga.  VMWare's website has a pretty good
rundown though.

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xfree4.0 and 3d accel

2001-03-02 Thread Michael P. Soulier
Hey people. I recently installed XFree86 4.0 and am using the tdfx driver
for my Voodoo 3. Is it automatically set up to use 3D accel, or do I still
have to work to do if I want to play Quake?

Mike

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dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead. -- RFC 1925



Re: unresolved symbols in 3dfx.o

2001-03-02 Thread Ron Peterson
Johnny Blade wrote:
 
 I've been attempting to prepare my machine to play
 some quake, but I can't get the 3dfx.o module to work.
  I downloaded the device3dfx source using apt-get, ran
 the buildpkg script, and then installed the .deb
 created.  As the deb is trying to update-modules, I
 see a message saying Unresolved symbols in
 lib/.../3dfx.o.  When I depmod -e this (I've been
 hitting the man pages...), the two symbols it mentions
 are register_chrdev_Rbbdcb79f and
 printk_R1b7d4074.
 
 In the the archives someone mentioned running nm
 3dfx.o | grep printk, and then grep printk /proc/ksyms
 to see if the kernel headers that were used match.
 Mine don't.  I'm not sure how to fix that, because my
 kernel source is in /usr/src/linux (actually
 kernel-source-2.2.18pre21, but it's symlinked) where
 the programs should be able to find the right files.
 I just recently recompiled my kernel because the
 makefile wouldn't run without the kernel having been
 configured and installed, so I dont' think restoring
 my old kernel would help.

You might try restoring your original kernel, and just installing the
kernel headers, to allow you to compile.  You'll probably need to
-I/usr/src/linux/include.  If you're compiling using make, try 'export
CFLAGS=-I/usr/src/linux/include' before running make.

When you build your own kernel, there's an option for whether you want
the kernel to set version information on module symbols.  The way that
was set when you rolled your kernel could be what's giving you problems.

-Ron-
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confusing problems with /usr/include/linux when comipling modules

2001-03-02 Thread ctest
i'm trying to compile userlink-source on the latest stable distribution.  it
complains that /usr/include/linux/modversions.h dosn't exist (which it dosn't),
and if i switch /usr/include/linux to be a link to
/usr/src/kernel-headers-2.2.17, it just chokes during compile with compile
errors.

i've heard that linking /usr/include/linux to /usr/src/kernel*/include/linux is
evil before, and really haven't appreciated the reason why.

What is the approperate solution to this situation?  (for userlink-source, but
for modules in general, as well...  i've had this situation occur before).

Thanks,
Corey



Re: HP LJ III with Jet Direct and Linux

2001-03-02 Thread kmself
on Fri, Mar 02, 2001 at 01:30:11PM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:
 I have an old HP Laserjet III with an old JetDirect card in it that I
 have purchaed used.  I have to use the parallel port to print to it,
 but would like to use the network card instead.  It was configured and
 running on another network, and there is some info to that respect in
 the diagnostic info I can print out.  

 I probably need to reconfigure it, but HP's tools don't detect it.  It
 appears to want to use ipx, and I can see it sending stuff out on the
 network.  I figured it was a dhcp request, but dhcp doesn't see it.
 Anyone know how to reset/configure these cards or have any ideas of
 things to try?  HP has been less than helpful.  TIA.

What's the status page show you in terms of networking?  Does it tell
you if TCP/IP is configured, or give an IP?  IIRC, on the HPLJIII, you
can walk through the menus on the onboard display to set up networking
-- you've got an LED display on the right hand side of the box?

HP's online info is pretty good.  Not awesome, but reasonably decent.
Don't bother IMO with their phone support -- for starters, they never
sold you the system in the first place.

For one of their older DeskJets, the networking reset keypress was to
restart the printer while holding the Online button.

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Re: Eek! X won't go away!

2001-03-02 Thread kmself
on Fri, Mar 02, 2001 at 03:48:30PM -0800, Erik Steffl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote:
 ...
   so if you dislike xdm, at least set NoZap in XF86Config!
  
  Um.  How about:
  
  $ startx args; exit
 
   I think better option is to use nohup and actually exit. that way you
 are sure. or use virtual console lock:-) if such a beast exists.

I meant to type:

$ startx args  exit

...which is what I use (do what I mean, not what I say).  I can assure
you there are no console sessions on this box.

nohup isn't necessary.

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Re: correct files

2001-03-02 Thread John Galt

Have you discussed this with the boot-floppies team?

On Fri, 2 Mar 2001, MaD dUCK wrote:

also sprach ktb (on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 05:42:20PM -0600):
 Snag, at minimum -
 rescue.bin
 root.bin

... except the last time that i tried root.bin from like 5 different
locations, dd'ing and loop mounting it several times, it never turned
out to be a valid filesystem and i could never use it. maybe this is
fixed by now. i'd be interested to know.

martin

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Re: correct files

2001-03-02 Thread MaD dUCK
also sprach John Galt (on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 09:44:32PM -0700):
 Have you discussed this with the boot-floppies team?

nope. haven't had a chance yet. the last time i tried was yesterday
night.

martin

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Re: apt-get via firewall

2001-03-02 Thread kmself
on Fri, Feb 16, 2001 at 09:52:28PM -0800, Osamu Aoki ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

 On Fri, Feb 16, 2001 at 09:55:32AM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Is there a way to run apt-get through a ftp/http firewall?
  
  Thank you
 
 Can you see web page from behind firewall?
 If so, you can use http apt-get for sure.

Not necessarily:  an authenticating proxy http firewall may pose
problems.

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Re: xfree4.0 and 3d accel

2001-03-02 Thread Peter Jay Salzman
it's automatically set up to use 3D acceleration.

pete

On Fri 02 Mar 01, 11:27 PM, Michael P. Soulier said: 
 Hey people. I recently installed XFree86 4.0 and am using the tdfx driver
 for my Voodoo 3. Is it automatically set up to use 3D accel, or do I still
 have to work to do if I want to play Quake?
 
 Mike
 
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Re: Eek! X won't go away!

2001-03-02 Thread MaD dUCK
also sprach kmself@ix.netcom.com (on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 08:42:15PM -0800):
 $ startx args  exit
 
 ...which is what I use (do what I mean, not what I say).  I can assure
 you there are no console sessions on this box.

this will kill my X immediately and log off. the only way i got it to
work is by startx, ctrl-alt-f1, suspending, and then exiting.
obviously though, X remained suspended...

not even startx  sleep 10  exit works.

martin

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apt-get strangeness?

2001-03-02 Thread Michael P. Soulier
Ok...

lupus:/usr/lib# dpkg -l xlib6g
Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
| Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed
|/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err:
uppercase=bad)
||/ Name   VersionDescription
+++-==-==-
ii  xlib6g 4.0.2-1pseudopackage providing X libraries

I have xlib6g-4.0.2-1 installed. 

If I try to install the dev package, this happens

Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies:
  xlib6g-dev: Depends: xlib6g (= 3.3.2.3a-8) but it is not going to be
installed

But I _do_ have = 3.3.2.3a-8!

Help?

Mike

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serial terminal emulator for 'linux' term type?

2001-03-02 Thread idalton
Someone mentioned it on irc, on #debian a couple weeks ago, but I can't
remember the reference. Said there was some serial terminal emulator
that supported the 'linux' term type, so one wouldn't have to mess
around with minicom.

Anyone know what it is?

-- Ferret



Re: xfree4.0 and 3d accel

2001-03-02 Thread Michael P. Soulier

Cool. Are there instructions anywhere on getting Quake working? I'm going
through the howto, but I'm missing libraries apparently:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] quake]$ ldd quake.x11 
libm.so.5 = not found
libX11.so.6 = not found
libXext.so.6 = not found
libc.so.5 = not found

I have the first and last by different names so I can fix those with
symlinks. I don't have the X11 and Xext modules. They're apparently provided
by the xlibg6-dev package, but apt-get won't let me install it. 

Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies:
  xlib6g-dev: Depends: xlib6g (= 3.3.2.3a-8) but it is not going to be
installed

which is crap since I have 

ii  xlib6g 4.0.2-1pseudopackage providing X libraries

installed. 

Help?

Mike

On Fri, Mar 02, 2001 at 09:00:24PM -0800, Peter Jay Salzman wrote:
 it's automatically set up to use 3D acceleration.
 
 pete
 
 On Fri 02 Mar 01, 11:27 PM, Michael P. Soulier said: 
  Hey people. I recently installed XFree86 4.0 and am using the tdfx
  driver for my Voodoo 3. Is it automatically set up to use 3D accel, or
  do I still have to work to do if I want to play Quake?
  
  Mike
  
  -- Michael P. Soulier [EMAIL PROTECTED] With sufficient thrust, pigs
  fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to
  be sure where they are going to land, and it could be  dangerous sitting
  under them as they fly overhead. -- RFC 1925

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good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be  
dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead. -- RFC 1925



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