Re: ghost for linux?
also sprach Carel Fellinger (on Sat, 03 Mar 2001 02:17:44AM +0100): reading your reaction gives me the eery feeling I've missed what this thread was about. To me that's the single most horrible thing that comes from mailing-lists instead of plain good old netnews, you loose context easily. I know I should delve into mutt's capacity to filter messages for me, but I've never found how I can have mutt toggle display af read messages, which is easy in any decent newsreader. i'd use procmail instead as it is more the unix philosophy to let that program which is dedicated to mail filtering do the mail filtering, and mutt, the mail reader, do the mail reading. however, aside from threading and the tab key to skip between unread messages, i don't think mutt can filter or sort by message status. i usually just delete messages i read on mailing lists (they are archived), or move messages to a read folder when i took the appropriate action (reply etc...) martin [greetings from the heart of the sun]# echo [EMAIL PROTECTED]:1:[EMAIL PROTECTED]@@@.net -- redistribution of this email via the micros~1 network is prohibited.
Re: X 4.0 Upgrade /etc/X11/X ?
Thanks! This was the problem. Now I have X windows again. Some other stuff is not working completely (the fonts look _bad_ all of a sudden), but I'm running again. Thanks for the help (and in 15 minutes, too!), Aaron and the two others who replied. Terry Hancock Indeed, there is no /etc/X11/X, but I don't know what should be there. Is it a symlink? If so, to what? This file should be a symlink to your xserver. Under xfree86 4, it should look like this: X - /usr/X11R6/bin/XFree86 If you're running xfree86 3, it will point to XF86_driver such as XF86_SVGA for a generic video card. __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: an awful mutt thing just happened
Peter Jay Salzman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you know how you hit c to open other mailboxes and it says: Open mailbox ('?' for list): well, i can no longer use '?' to see the list of mailboxes. it does nothing; it simply drops me back to the main mailbox index. the only thing i can think of is that i *just* updated woody using apt-get. i don't know if mutt was one of the packages that got updated. does some kind soul have any ideas what might be going on? Always check bug reports when you're running testing/unstable :) http://bugs.debian.org/86228, and two other bugs. c TAB is a workaround. now that i can't access my mailboxes, can you cc this account with a reply? Done. debian-user goes to a folder (via procmail), and the only way i have to read my debian mail is by using vi on the mailbox it gets sent to. Surely you could type the folder name in manually, even without knowing the TAB trick? a second wierd mutt thing. as root, when i run mutt, it says: /var/spool/mail/root: Permission denied (errno = 13) Not sure, I redirect root mail to a mailbox in my unprivileged account. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: i18n and fonts
What's the output of the following: $ locale LANG=C LC_CTYPE=C LC_NUMERIC=C LC_TIME=C LC_COLLATE=C LC_MONETARY=C LC_MESSAGES=C LC_PAPER=C LC_NAME=C LC_ADDRESS=C LC_TELEPHONE=C LC_MEASUREMENT=C LC_IDENTIFICATION=C LC_ALL=C ... this is what I set it to with the command export LC_ALL=C Glenn Cheers. -- Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.comhttp://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What part of Gestalt don't you understand? There is no K5 cabal http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/ http://www.kuro5hin.org
Re: correct files
ktb wrote: Assuming i386 and your going to do an install off the Internet - http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/stable/main/disks-i386/current/images-1.44/ Snag, at minimum - rescue.bin root.bin Read this section again - http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch-install-methods.en.html hth, kent After reading the above ref. I am curious as to getting on-line after I boot into Linux. Do I need to have some files available beyond rescue.bin and root.bin? dbootstrap is mentioned as the program to use to continue installing. Do I need this file or is it part of the two previously mentioned files? Do I need a copy of fdisk or is it contained within rescue or root? Do I need the base-x.bin files? AND... Can I download the files to my current C: drive, replace the C: drive with a new hard drive as C: and then plug the old C: back into the system a D: drive and access it and the files it contains? Wow... Do I know what the hell I'm doing? Thanks for your input. Hope you don't feel overwhelmed by all these questions! Robert
Re: AARGGGHHHH! no X in Woody
On Thu, 1 Mar 2001, Martin Fluch wrote: On Thu, 1 Mar 2001, Matheson Cameron wrote: Hey, I can't get X windows to work in Woody. xdm doesn't start on its own, and if I try 'startx', it says: X: cannot stat /etc/X11/X (N such file or directory), Is the file /etc/X11/X present? It sould be a link to an Xserver, in my case it is: /etc/X11/X - /usr/bin/X11/XF86_SVGA btw this is not the X4 server, link /etc/X11/X to /usr/X11R6/bin/XFree86 Today people in droves hurry up past Heumoz to Villars on the road to the ski hills, so they can rush down them as fast as possible, so they can hurry up again in order to rush down again. In a way this is funny,... Francis A Schaeffer David Purton http://www.chariot.net.au/~dcpurton/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: correct files
also sprach Robert Tucker (on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 05:41:24AM -0800): After reading the above ref. I am curious as to getting on-line after I boot into Linux. Do I need to have some files available beyond rescue.bin and root.bin? dbootstrap is mentioned as the program to use to continue installing. Do I need this file or is it part of the two previously mentioned files? Do I need a copy of fdisk or is it contained within rescue or root? Do I need the depends on your network card and/or how you access the web. i myself have never used the boot disk set because i always had the cds, but i think debian's pretty good about making an FTP install really easy. base-x.bin files? AND... Can I download the files to my current C: drive, replace the C: drive with a new hard drive as C: and then plug the old C: back into the system a D: drive and access it and the files it contains? first of all, forget the C: and D: windoze stuff. IDE harddisks in linux are /dev/hda (primary master), /dev/hdb (primary slave), /dev/hdc (secondary master), and /dev/hdd (secondary slave). to answer your question: of course you can. leave the old drive out as long as you are doing weird stuff with the new drive, and once it's back and running, then proceed to put the old drive in on the secondary channel (or as a slave), add entries similar to the /etc/fstab file on the old harddrive to the new /etc/fstab file, properly changing the partition name with respect to the third character: a, b, c, or d. create a directory /like /root/old and then set this to be the mount point of the old root. mount all other partitions as children of /root/old, and you should be all set. if i were where you are i'd tell you to bribe me with a beer and i'd show you. it's a whole lot of theory that needs to be understood first. but once you get the hang, well, you got the hang! do you have means of accessing the web / this mailing list even if you were to completely screw over your system? martin [greetings from the heart of the sun]# echo [EMAIL PROTECTED]:1:[EMAIL PROTECTED]@@@.net -- it appears that pl/i (and its dialects) is, or will be, the most widely used higher level language for systems programming. -- j. sammet
Re: Setting Up Partitions:Solved,Thanks
I finished installing the system. I got all the partitions working after having to use expert mode in fdisk. I then jumped back into the debian curses install and it went right on to the next step, no problems. That is a very robust installer. As of right now I am booting from floppy until I get pppd up and running so I can download GRUB and installed. Apt-get looks great and seems like it will make the transition form FreeBSD ports very easy. Ian I look forward to the day that I can offer helpful advice to other users. Thanks for the quick responses. --- kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote: on Mon, Feb 26, 2001 at 08:09:56AM -0800, Ian Thomas ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I have a copy of Debian 2.1 Slink that I am trying to install to a second harddrive. I just recently found out on a website that cfdisk cannot create extended partitions. I attempted to do this when I was installing by changing the partition type to extended, but when it wrote the table it still had them listed as linux native. This is what I want to do.. hdb1 (this is already my freebsd swap partition) hdb2 /boot (this will be a primary partition) hdb3 (extended partition containing logical slices) hdb5 / hdb6 /var hdb7 /tmp hdb8 /home hdb9 /usr My swap space will go on my third drive. I thought about just doing Alt-Ctrl-F2 to get a prompt, run fdisk and create the partition table that way, then continue with the curses based install. Is that correct? Also I have read that linux cannot boot from an extended partition, is this true? If not I can put all of the slices in one exteneded partition. If I am using the wrong terminology it is because I have only really used BSD's and am used to disklabel. There are several HOWTOs addressing partitioning issues, including some thoughts on arranging partitions across one or more disks for optimal performance (unless you're doing high-end processing you'll likely not notice). I've compiled my own notes at http://kmself.home.netcom.com/Linux/FAQs/partition.html ...regarding suggested sizes. Your thoughts on switching to a shell during the install process and creating your partitions is a good method. I believe recent Debian installs also provide the option to run a partitioning utility during the installation process. -- Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.com http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What part of Gestalt don't you understand? There is no K5 cabal http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/ http://www.kuro5hin.org ATTACHMENT part 2 application/pgp-signature __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: after 'su -', 'Can't open display'
When I start X Windows, using the KDE window manager, I change to root (with su - ) for administrative tasks. However I seem unable to run X window applications. Whatever X application I try to run, I inevitably get a message similar to ... unable to open display. Try this. While logged in as yourself, type 'xauth nexport - $DISPLAY myxauth' (sans quotes, of course). Then become root, and type 'xauth nmerge myxauth'. Then delete myxauth. -Ron- GPG and other info at: http://www.yellowbank.com/
remote printing
Hey people. I need some help getting remote printing to work. I have a print server with a local printer attached. I used magicfilter and now it works great. Now, I'd like to be able to use lpr to remotely print to it like I do at work. My local /etc/printcap is lp|Remote printer entry:\ :lp=:\ :rm=jumpgate:\ :rp=lp:\ :sd=/var/spool/lpd/remote:\ :mx#0:\ :sh: The print server is jumpgate, and it's printer is named lp. I have a /etc/hosts.lpd file on the print server containing the hostname of my client. However, when I print, I get: [EMAIL PROTECTED] msoulier]$ lpr mail.out lpr: connect: Connection refused jobs queued, but cannot start daemon. I've checked, the the lpd daemon is running on both machines. What am I missing? Thanks, Mike -- Michael P. Soulier [EMAIL PROTECTED] With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead. -- RFC 1925
anyone have a epson stylus photo 870 working?
see subject, all the documentation i have been following on linuxprinting.org involves ghostscript, which is broken on debian. (see my other mail, all it does when run by lpd is spit out svgalib: Cannot get I/O permissions.) if anyone has gotten this or a similar model working on debian could you tell me what you did? (i did not find anything useful in the list archives) TIA. -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ pgpdayGeQDYTs.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Setting Up Partitions:Solved,Thanks
also sprach Ian Thomas (on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 06:42:29PM -0800): hdb1 (this is already my freebsd swap partition) hdb2 /boot (this will be a primary partition) hdb3 (extended partition containing logical slices) hdb5 / hdb6 /var hdb7 /tmp hdb8 /home hdb9 /usr just a quickie, but given the geometry of a disk, you'd want the high usage partitions up front, so i think you should move usr to hda6 and shift the others... martin [greetings from the heart of the sun]# echo [EMAIL PROTECTED]:1:[EMAIL PROTECTED]@@@.net -- the eternal feminine draws us upward. -- goethe
RE: have you seen this driver?
For the Aureal. Take a look on sourceforge.net I saw it out there when I had to get it. You will have to compile it yourself. It used to be at linux.aureal.com but they went out of business, but the driver modules are at sourceforge. I had no problems compiling and installing it and it worked great. -Original Message- From: D. Hoyem [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 02, 2001 1:31 PM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: have you seen this driver? I downloaded a driver for the Aureal Sound Card, to a windows drive, from somewhere and I'll be if I can find it again. When I tried to install it, it complained about the added junk.. It was named au88xx-kernel-source-1.1.2_i386.deb has anyone seen this driver?? Also the Debian based Corel Linux says that it uses the Creative Sound Blaster AWE64 does the potato distro have access to that? TIA Don __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: remote printing
On Fri, Mar 02, 2001 at 10:24:08PM -0500, Michael P. Soulier wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] msoulier]$ lpr mail.out lpr: connect: Connection refused jobs queued, but cannot start daemon. I've checked, the the lpd daemon is running on both machines. What am I missing? Ah, got it. I ran the lpd restart but it actually didn't restart. The old one just kept running and the pid file was stale. Mike -- Michael P. Soulier [EMAIL PROTECTED] With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead. -- RFC 1925
Re: It's MY computer, not Bill's!
On Fri, Mar 02, 2001 at 02:00:06PM -0500, MaD dUCK wrote: vmware allows you to run windoze on top of linux. or any operating system as a matter of fact. and pvm is distributed processing, i really just threw it in to emphasize that i don't see a place for computer games in the life of any person who is enthusiastic about linux. ANY operating system? would that include mac os x? :) seriously, would it do mac os 8 or 9? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://groups.yahoo.com/group/newbieDoc -- we need your brain! http://www.dontUthink.com/ -- your brain needs us!
Re: kill: cannot kill some processes
William T Wilson wrote: On Thu, 22 Feb 2001, brian moore wrote: does the process list Z under STAT ? if it is the process has gone zombied and i don't think there is much you can do. sometimes zombie'd processes die on their own eventually many times they will not die until you reboot .. Not quite true... zombies don't ever die: they're already dead. While the description of zombie processes is accurate, I think another likely situation is that the process is in uninterruptible sleep, i.e. the 'D' state. This happens when a process is blocked in a system call - it will be 'D' until the kernel function returns. Kernel bugs, hardware problems, and dead NFS mounts can cause these kernel functions to take a long time or forever. In such a case, you really are stuck; unless the resource the process is waiting for frees up, it's going to hang around until a reboot. One thing about zombie process: Don't worry about trying to make them go away. They don't consume any CPU time, or any other resources other than the slot in the process table and the less than 1K of memory required to hold their state information. They are not worth worrying about. Not entirely true. Init can inherit enough zombie processes that it hits its process limit (1024, if I remember correctly). Can you 'shutdown'? Nope. Not unless you can free up a slot. And if something's going haywire and spawning zombies quickly, this can be a problem. Not a common occurance, though... -Ron- GPG and other info at: http://www.yellowbank.com/
Re: Reconstructing Var?
On Fri, Mar 02, 2001 at 03:07:58PM -0900, Ethan Benson wrote: On Fri, Mar 02, 2001 at 06:52:17PM +, Matthew Sackman wrote: When /var went down, I was able to tar and bzip2 up /home /etc /root and drop them into a windows partition which meant that I lost no real why did you do that? if you have seperate partitions there is no need to back them up, just don't initialize them in the debian installer. mount them instead. what ethan means, is, altho there's probably a good reason to back up just about anything, you don't have to reset your partitions when you reinstall debian, even from a cd-boot. like he said, just MOUNT already-initialized (and filled with booty) partitions and you're off to the races... backup whatever you want to back up. early. and often. take it from the department of redundancy department. backups are a Good Thing. -- It is always hazardous to ask Why? in science, but it is often interesting to do so just the same. -- Isaac Asimov, 'The Genetic Code' [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://groups.yahoo.com/group/newbieDoc -- we need your brain! http://www.dontUthink.com/ -- your brain needs us!
apt-get testing
hey, how can i use apt-get to get something like postfix-0.0.20010228-1 out of testing? i have testing/main and some other testing's in my sources.list, but apt-get --download-only install testing/postfix doesn't work, and apt-get --download-only install postfix reports that postfix is already installed... martin [greetings from the heart of the sun]# echo [EMAIL PROTECTED]:1:[EMAIL PROTECTED]@@@.net -- declared guilty... of displaying feelings of an almost human nature. -- roger waters, 1979
Re: It's MY computer, not Bill's!
also sprach will trillich (on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 09:47:12PM -0600): ANY operating system? would that include mac os x? :) seriously, would it do mac os 8 or 9? don't quote me on it, but i don't think so. i should have said - any operating system that runs on x86. martin [greetings from the heart of the sun]# echo [EMAIL PROTECTED]:1:[EMAIL PROTECTED]@@@.net -- si vis pacem, para bellum
Re: compiling a program
Philipp Bliedung wrote: Hi, I have simple question concerning compiling a programm When I compile a program from the sources and it beakes for whatever reason, how can I get rid of all the files that were created so far or how can I remove this 'broken' program ? Is there anything like 'apt-get -f install' which is used for .deb files ? If the maintainer put a make directive (e.g. 'make uninstall') to do so in their makefile perhaps. Otherwise not usually. You can review what happened during a 'make install' (or any other make command, for that matter), by using make's -n option. I.E. - 'make -n install'. This will just echo what would happen, without really doing it. Problems like these are why package management systems exist. And how can I find out if a new version of a package, for example libc6, depends on any other package? For example I tried to compile a movie-player but it needed a newer version of libc6, which I don't have, so how can I find out if I need any other package for libc6 to work? (I'm still using the 2.2.17 kernel...) Build it and read the error messages. They are not always easy to decipher, especially if you don't know the language. Again a good reason to use package management systems. Of course, that's not always an option... -Ron- GPG and other info at: http://www.yellowbank.com/
manually installing mozilla plugins
Hey, I was wondering if their was a way to manually install mozilla plugins. I need the java one, but I can't get it because I can't get FTP to work with my proxy server (help with that too please). I did manage to download it from a Windoze machine (the proxy server), and so now I have a file named 'jre.xpi'. I don't know what to do with it though. Any ideas? Thanks, Cameron Matheson __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: Setting Up Partitions:Solved,Thanks
on Fri, Mar 02, 2001 at 10:22:47PM -0500, MaD dUCK ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: also sprach Ian Thomas (on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 06:42:29PM -0800): hdb1 (this is already my freebsd swap partition) hdb2 /boot (this will be a primary partition) hdb3 (extended partition containing logical slices) hdb5 / hdb6 /var hdb7 /tmp hdb8 /home hdb9 /usr just a quickie, but given the geometry of a disk, you'd want the high usage partitions up front, so i think you should move usr to hda6 and shift the others... Advice I've heard (no emperical evidence myself) is that higher utilization is best placed toward the physical midpoint of the disk radius. This tends to equalize head movement in and out. Unless heads park in either an inboard or outboard position? -- Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.comhttp://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What part of Gestalt don't you understand? There is no K5 cabal http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/ http://www.kuro5hin.org pgppb7tBZlrvb.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Setting Up Partitions:Solved,Thanks
also sprach kmself@ix.netcom.com (on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 08:08:47PM -0800): Advice I've heard (no emperical evidence myself) is that higher utilization is best placed toward the physical midpoint of the disk radius. This tends to equalize head movement in and out. Unless heads park in either an inboard or outboard position? mh. interesting. this is news to me... martin [greetings from the heart of the sun]# echo [EMAIL PROTECTED]:1:[EMAIL PROTECTED]@@@.net -- Even if you persuade me, you won't persuade me. -- aristophanes
Dual boot, multiple kernels, sytem map problem (was Re: Switching between two file systems.)
on Fri, Mar 02, 2001 at 06:39:54PM -0500, Fu-Dong Chiou ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote: on Wed, Feb 28, 2001 at 12:03:02PM -0500, Fu-Dong Chiou ([EMAIL PROTECTED] edu) wrote: Hi, I have a problem. I have RedHat on /dev/hd1, and Debian on /dev/hd5 (that I just transferred from another HD). The problem is, when I boot into Debian, the system.map of RedHat is still being used, and I got a lot of warning messages. Is there a way that I get around this problem? Thanks! Post your /etc/lilo.conf file, and possibly, your disk partitioning scheme. Sorry, I should have done that. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~#more /etc/lilo.conf boot=/dev/hda map=/boot/map ^ Is this the system map you're referring to? If so, I'm not sure I can answer your question -- you're using different kernels for each system. I'm not aware of a way to specify per-stanza boot maps, but then, I haven't really tried. Have you considered an alternative boot method for Debian -- say a boot floppy or lilo floppy? install=/boot/boot.b prompt timeout=30 message=/boot/message linear default=RedHat7 image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.16-22 label=RedHat7 read-only root=/dev/hda1 image=/boot/vmlinuz label=Debian read-only root=/dev/hda5 Disk /dev/hda: 240 heads, 63 sectors, 662 cylinders Units = cylinders of 15120 * 512 bytes Device BootStart EndBlocks Id System /dev/hda1 * 1 271 2048728+ 83 Linux /dev/hda2 272 661 29484005 Extended /dev/hda5 * 272 542 2048728+ 83 Linux /dev/hda6 543 650816448+ 83 Linux /dev/hda7 651 661 83128+ 82 Linux swap Chip -- Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.comhttp://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What part of Gestalt don't you understand? There is no K5 cabal http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/ http://www.kuro5hin.org pgp3i5WNqV3MU.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: It's MY computer, not Bill's!
on Fri, Mar 02, 2001 at 02:00:06PM -0500, MaD dUCK ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: also sprach Robert Tucker (on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 10:14:44PM -0800): Ok... Now, what is vmware? And pvm? I see I have a lot of memorization to do. I have two other computers (both 486's) and I plan to initially net them and leave them W95. What is the general outline of using a Linux machine to run Windows games? vmware allows you to run windoze on top of linux. or any operating system as a matter of fact. Not so fast. Many OSs which run on x86 hardware. Not all. Though support is improving. BeOS took a while to get up. OS/2 still isn't supported. Not sure about Amiga. VMWare's website has a pretty good rundown though. -- Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.comhttp://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What part of Gestalt don't you understand? There is no K5 cabal http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/ http://www.kuro5hin.org pgpHXeX1CmqVD.pgp Description: PGP signature
xfree4.0 and 3d accel
Hey people. I recently installed XFree86 4.0 and am using the tdfx driver for my Voodoo 3. Is it automatically set up to use 3D accel, or do I still have to work to do if I want to play Quake? Mike -- Michael P. Soulier [EMAIL PROTECTED] With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead. -- RFC 1925
Re: unresolved symbols in 3dfx.o
Johnny Blade wrote: I've been attempting to prepare my machine to play some quake, but I can't get the 3dfx.o module to work. I downloaded the device3dfx source using apt-get, ran the buildpkg script, and then installed the .deb created. As the deb is trying to update-modules, I see a message saying Unresolved symbols in lib/.../3dfx.o. When I depmod -e this (I've been hitting the man pages...), the two symbols it mentions are register_chrdev_Rbbdcb79f and printk_R1b7d4074. In the the archives someone mentioned running nm 3dfx.o | grep printk, and then grep printk /proc/ksyms to see if the kernel headers that were used match. Mine don't. I'm not sure how to fix that, because my kernel source is in /usr/src/linux (actually kernel-source-2.2.18pre21, but it's symlinked) where the programs should be able to find the right files. I just recently recompiled my kernel because the makefile wouldn't run without the kernel having been configured and installed, so I dont' think restoring my old kernel would help. You might try restoring your original kernel, and just installing the kernel headers, to allow you to compile. You'll probably need to -I/usr/src/linux/include. If you're compiling using make, try 'export CFLAGS=-I/usr/src/linux/include' before running make. When you build your own kernel, there's an option for whether you want the kernel to set version information on module symbols. The way that was set when you rolled your kernel could be what's giving you problems. -Ron- GPG and other info at: http://www.yellowbank.com/
confusing problems with /usr/include/linux when comipling modules
i'm trying to compile userlink-source on the latest stable distribution. it complains that /usr/include/linux/modversions.h dosn't exist (which it dosn't), and if i switch /usr/include/linux to be a link to /usr/src/kernel-headers-2.2.17, it just chokes during compile with compile errors. i've heard that linking /usr/include/linux to /usr/src/kernel*/include/linux is evil before, and really haven't appreciated the reason why. What is the approperate solution to this situation? (for userlink-source, but for modules in general, as well... i've had this situation occur before). Thanks, Corey
Re: HP LJ III with Jet Direct and Linux
on Fri, Mar 02, 2001 at 01:30:11PM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I have an old HP Laserjet III with an old JetDirect card in it that I have purchaed used. I have to use the parallel port to print to it, but would like to use the network card instead. It was configured and running on another network, and there is some info to that respect in the diagnostic info I can print out. I probably need to reconfigure it, but HP's tools don't detect it. It appears to want to use ipx, and I can see it sending stuff out on the network. I figured it was a dhcp request, but dhcp doesn't see it. Anyone know how to reset/configure these cards or have any ideas of things to try? HP has been less than helpful. TIA. What's the status page show you in terms of networking? Does it tell you if TCP/IP is configured, or give an IP? IIRC, on the HPLJIII, you can walk through the menus on the onboard display to set up networking -- you've got an LED display on the right hand side of the box? HP's online info is pretty good. Not awesome, but reasonably decent. Don't bother IMO with their phone support -- for starters, they never sold you the system in the first place. For one of their older DeskJets, the networking reset keypress was to restart the printer while holding the Online button. -- Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.comhttp://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What part of Gestalt don't you understand? There is no K5 cabal http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/ http://www.kuro5hin.org pgpgxMpouR81Y.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Eek! X won't go away!
on Fri, Mar 02, 2001 at 03:48:30PM -0800, Erik Steffl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote: ... so if you dislike xdm, at least set NoZap in XF86Config! Um. How about: $ startx args; exit I think better option is to use nohup and actually exit. that way you are sure. or use virtual console lock:-) if such a beast exists. I meant to type: $ startx args exit ...which is what I use (do what I mean, not what I say). I can assure you there are no console sessions on this box. nohup isn't necessary. -- Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.comhttp://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What part of Gestalt don't you understand? There is no K5 cabal http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/ http://www.kuro5hin.org pgpqxD9zaXSHM.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: correct files
Have you discussed this with the boot-floppies team? On Fri, 2 Mar 2001, MaD dUCK wrote: also sprach ktb (on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 05:42:20PM -0600): Snag, at minimum - rescue.bin root.bin ... except the last time that i tried root.bin from like 5 different locations, dd'ing and loop mounting it several times, it never turned out to be a valid filesystem and i could never use it. maybe this is fixed by now. i'd be interested to know. martin [greetings from the heart of the sun]# echo [EMAIL PROTECTED]:1:[EMAIL PROTECTED]@@@.net -- void hamlet() {#define question=((bb)||(!bb))} Who is John Galt? [EMAIL PROTECTED] that's who!
Re: correct files
also sprach John Galt (on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 09:44:32PM -0700): Have you discussed this with the boot-floppies team? nope. haven't had a chance yet. the last time i tried was yesterday night. martin [greetings from the heart of the sun]# echo [EMAIL PROTECTED]:1:[EMAIL PROTECTED]@@@.net -- declared guilty... of displaying feelings of an almost human nature. -- roger waters, 1979
Re: apt-get via firewall
on Fri, Feb 16, 2001 at 09:52:28PM -0800, Osamu Aoki ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Fri, Feb 16, 2001 at 09:55:32AM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a way to run apt-get through a ftp/http firewall? Thank you Can you see web page from behind firewall? If so, you can use http apt-get for sure. Not necessarily: an authenticating proxy http firewall may pose problems. -- Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.comhttp://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What part of Gestalt don't you understand? There is no K5 cabal http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/ http://www.kuro5hin.org pgpdAxLrtnKFE.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: xfree4.0 and 3d accel
it's automatically set up to use 3D acceleration. pete On Fri 02 Mar 01, 11:27 PM, Michael P. Soulier said: Hey people. I recently installed XFree86 4.0 and am using the tdfx driver for my Voodoo 3. Is it automatically set up to use 3D accel, or do I still have to work to do if I want to play Quake? Mike -- Michael P. Soulier [EMAIL PROTECTED] With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead. -- RFC 1925 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ...and here is fortress ovum being stormed by [EMAIL PROTECTED] millions of tiny warriors...www.dirac.org/p -- Robert Schweitzer Picardo pgpi6fIGH4PXu.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Eek! X won't go away!
also sprach kmself@ix.netcom.com (on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 08:42:15PM -0800): $ startx args exit ...which is what I use (do what I mean, not what I say). I can assure you there are no console sessions on this box. this will kill my X immediately and log off. the only way i got it to work is by startx, ctrl-alt-f1, suspending, and then exiting. obviously though, X remained suspended... not even startx sleep 10 exit works. martin [greetings from the heart of the sun]# echo [EMAIL PROTECTED]:1:[EMAIL PROTECTED]@@@.net -- i'm always frank and earnest with women. uh, in new york I'm frank, and in chicago I'm ernest. -- the long kiss goodnight
apt-get strangeness?
Ok... lupus:/usr/lib# dpkg -l xlib6g Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold | Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed |/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad) ||/ Name VersionDescription +++-==-==- ii xlib6g 4.0.2-1pseudopackage providing X libraries I have xlib6g-4.0.2-1 installed. If I try to install the dev package, this happens Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies: xlib6g-dev: Depends: xlib6g (= 3.3.2.3a-8) but it is not going to be installed But I _do_ have = 3.3.2.3a-8! Help? Mike -- Michael P. Soulier [EMAIL PROTECTED] With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead. -- RFC 1925
serial terminal emulator for 'linux' term type?
Someone mentioned it on irc, on #debian a couple weeks ago, but I can't remember the reference. Said there was some serial terminal emulator that supported the 'linux' term type, so one wouldn't have to mess around with minicom. Anyone know what it is? -- Ferret
Re: xfree4.0 and 3d accel
Cool. Are there instructions anywhere on getting Quake working? I'm going through the howto, but I'm missing libraries apparently: [EMAIL PROTECTED] quake]$ ldd quake.x11 libm.so.5 = not found libX11.so.6 = not found libXext.so.6 = not found libc.so.5 = not found I have the first and last by different names so I can fix those with symlinks. I don't have the X11 and Xext modules. They're apparently provided by the xlibg6-dev package, but apt-get won't let me install it. Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies: xlib6g-dev: Depends: xlib6g (= 3.3.2.3a-8) but it is not going to be installed which is crap since I have ii xlib6g 4.0.2-1pseudopackage providing X libraries installed. Help? Mike On Fri, Mar 02, 2001 at 09:00:24PM -0800, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: it's automatically set up to use 3D acceleration. pete On Fri 02 Mar 01, 11:27 PM, Michael P. Soulier said: Hey people. I recently installed XFree86 4.0 and am using the tdfx driver for my Voodoo 3. Is it automatically set up to use 3D accel, or do I still have to work to do if I want to play Quake? Mike -- Michael P. Soulier [EMAIL PROTECTED] With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead. -- RFC 1925 -- Michael P. Soulier [EMAIL PROTECTED] With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead. -- RFC 1925