iptables and masquerading

2001-03-19 Thread Brian May
Hello,

with ipchains it was easy to list what connections where being
masqueraded (IIRC ipchains -L -M).

However, I have not been able to do the same thing with iptables.

I see that the connection exists, by using tcpdump, eg:

16:46:57.476303 203.45.74.87.41007 > 192.168.87.130.1809: . ack 14601 win 8760 
(DF)
16:46:57.478413 202.12.87.129.1809 > 203.45.74.87.41007: P 14600:16060(1460) 
ack 1 win 65242 (DF)

But neither fuser, netstat, or /proc/net/ip_conntrack[1] show any sign of
this connection.

So, how do I get a list of masqueraded connections, on the router?

(ideally an indication of bandwidth used by each connection would be
nice, too, but not essential).

Note:

[1] this file seems to contain connections that don't need to be
tracked (eg localhost --> localhost) or for certain non-masqueraded
connections. Why?

[2] I am using Linux 2.4.2
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Re: on upgrading to testing

2001-03-19 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Mon, Mar 19, 2001 at 11:42:59PM -0500, Mark Hurley wrote:
> 
> Can't locate Debconf/Client/ConfModule.pm in @INC (@INC contains:
> /usr/local/lib/perl/5.6.0 /usr/local/share/perl/5.6.0 /usr/lib/perl5
> /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.6.0 /usr/share/perl/5.6.0
> /usr/lib/perl5/5.6/i386-linux /usr/lib/perl5/5.6
> /usr/lib/perl5/5.005/i386-linux .) at /var/lib/dpkg/info/libpaperg.config
> line 3.
> BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /var/lib/dpkg/info/libpaperg.config
> line 3.
> (in cleanup) Can't call method "close" on an undefined value at
>   /usr/lib/perl5/Debian/DebConf/ConfModule.pm line 476 during global
>   destruction.
>   dpkg: error processing libpaperg (--configure):
>subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 2
>Errors were encountered while processing:
> libpaperg
> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
> 

This can be resolved by installing the unstable version of debconf
(0.9.27).

Bob



Re: on upgrading to testing

2001-03-19 Thread rob

James D. Freels writes:

 > expected like libc, gcc, etc.  However, there also was the perl
 > packages which have been reported as very buggy.  I can't deal with
 > that.  What is the status of these packages now.

I don't remember problems with perl.  Please refresh my memory.

I can also say that I have been impressed with how quickly 'big
problems' get fixed in Debian.  One of the big problems I remember
from at least six months ago which left things unusable was actually
fixed with an upload by someone other than the package maintainer.  So
I have been happy with the response when there is a serious problem.

I know that this following statement may be faulty in a logical sort
of fashion, but I get more "feel goods" by doing the 'dist-upgrade'
only every so often, every three days or so.

rob



Re: Unstable, sid woody, what?

2001-03-19 Thread Mike
Jim Richardson wrote:
> 
> Can someone give me a quick crash course on what the relationship
> between the names (sid, slink, etc) and the dev_status. 
> i.e. Is sid the stable tree? woody is testing? I am a little confused
> here. Thanks

potato - current stable
woody - current testing, next to become stable
sid - current unstable, as I understand it this name will never be used for
  anything other than unstable
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Re: Can't rescue, read-only filesystem

2001-03-19 Thread Morgan Fletcher
"Oliver Elphick"  writes:
> The root partition is mounted read-only to start with.  You need to
> load a kernel module to finish booting, but it looks as though the
> rescue kernel doesn't match the modules on your hard disk.
> 
> It looks as if you may have overwritten your kernel-image package.  The
> LI message means that lilo couldn't find the kernel where it is configured
> to look for it.
> 
> If that is correct, the simplest way to deal with it is:
> 
> Boot from the floppy:
> 
>   boot: rescue root=/dev/hda3 init=/bin/sh
> 
> This will put you straight into a shell, with no other utilities running.

Unfortunately, the same thing happens. It is as if the init=/bin/sh
argument is ignored. The rescue disk is from potato. My wife's laptop
doesn't have a floppy drive, so I can't even create a new one! Worse
still, I can't even use windows 2000's CD to "rescue" the MB, so I am
stuck with "LI" and can't boot either OS on the machine.

Argh.

I used the rescue->root disks from 2.2 to mount my partitions. I tried
using ae to uncomment the "alias net-pf-1 off" line, then touch
modules.dep to be newer than modules.conf, but I still can't get past
the basic problem of an endlessly-cycling error message on boot, right
when init is launched it looks like:

modprobe: modprobe: cannot create /var/log/ksymoops/20010320.log Read-only file 
system

Over and over.

The disk is fine, as I can mount its partitions from the instllation
screen, traverse its structure, manipulate files. I just can't get
linux (or LILO) to boot. I don't know what to do next. Any advice?

morgan



Re: [ISTA] confused on CIPE tunneling, please help

2001-03-19 Thread Keith
U. How is this Syty related?
Keith

Nick wrote:
> 
> How do I set the follwing up for my network
> 
> Office A
> outside ip: 62.xxx.xxx.2
> isp gateway: 62.xxx.xxx.1
> lan interface: 192.168.1.1
> inside ip's: 192.168.1.0/24
> 
> Office B
> outside ip: 64.xxx.xxx.129
> isp gateway 64.xxx.xxx.128
> lan interface: 192.168.0.1
> inside ip's: 192.168.0.0/24
> 
> This is an example, but help me plug my own numbers in:
> 
> Next, you start the CIPE-daemon on each machine:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ciped-cb me=10.0.0.1:6789 peer=10.0.0.2:6543 ipaddr=10.0.1.1
> ptpaddr=10.0.1.2
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ciped-cb peer=10.0.0.1:6789 me=10.0.0.2:6543 
> ptpaddr=10.0.1.1
> ipaddr=10.0.1.2
> 
> Thanks nick

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Unstable, sid woody, what?

2001-03-19 Thread Jim Richardson

Can someone give me a quick crash course on what the relationship
between the names (sid, slink, etc) and the dev_status. 
i.e. Is sid the stable tree? woody is testing? I am a little confused
here. Thanks

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confused on CIPE tunneling, please help

2001-03-19 Thread Nick
How do I set the follwing up for my network

Office A
outside ip: 62.xxx.xxx.2
isp gateway: 62.xxx.xxx.1
lan interface: 192.168.1.1
inside ip's: 192.168.1.0/24


Office B
outside ip: 64.xxx.xxx.129
isp gateway 64.xxx.xxx.128
lan interface: 192.168.0.1
inside ip's: 192.168.0.0/24

This is an example, but help me plug my own numbers in:

Next, you start the CIPE-daemon on each machine: 

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ciped-cb me=10.0.0.1:6789 peer=10.0.0.2:6543 ipaddr=10.0.1.1 
ptpaddr=10.0.1.2
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ciped-cb peer=10.0.0.1:6789 me=10.0.0.2:6543 ptpaddr=10.0.1.1 
ipaddr=10.0.1.2


Thanks nick



Re: apt-get and growing cache

2001-03-19 Thread Seth Arnold
Original Poster: The cache is there so that you can back out failed
upgrades. I have seen several times when a new package broke something
important an older version of the package did correctly. (Example: Mutt,
libiconv, a month ago or so?)

This way, you can use dpkg to downgrade to an older package, one that
works, and continue running your business until a new package is
available to fix the problems.

I don't clear the cache until I am running low on drive space. :) But I
am just that paranoid. :)

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Kernel-image-2.4.2-k6 install error

2001-03-19 Thread Parrish M Myers
Hi all,

Has anyone tried to install the new 2.4.2 kernel images in unstable?  I
have and keep getting the error:

Setting up kernel-image-2.4.2-k6 (2.4.2-1) ...
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
/lib/modules/2.4.2-k6/kernel/drivers/net/wan/comx.o
/usr/sbin/mkinitrd: /dev/root: Unknown root device
Failed to create initrd image.
dpkg: error processing kernel-image-2.4.2-k6 (--configure):
 subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 29
Errors were encountered while processing:
 kernel-image-2.4.2-k6
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)


I have initrd-tools and mkcramfs installed.  Am I missing something?

Thanks
Parrish Myers

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Troubles with Apache and PHP4 installs

2001-03-19 Thread jenny w
Hi! I'm kind of new to Debian.  After a bit of trouble, I got things
(including Apache) to work the way I expected.  Then I decided to
install PHP4 and troubles began.  The PHP4 package install offered to
run apacheconfig.  I did this, and then apache wouldn't start.  The
weird thing is that it gives errors like:

  Syntax error on line 70 of /etc/apache/httpd.conf:
  Invalid command 'ExtendedStatus', perhaps mis-spelled or defined by a

module not included in the server configuration

This seems strange because this doesn't seem like something that PHP4
would have changed.  I looked up the apache docs and it says this is
something from mod_status.  Did apt-get somehow clobber the Apache
modules?  Is there a good way to undo the damage?  I already tried
purging Apache and PHP4 (and MailMan, which was dependent on Apache)
and then reinstalling just Apache, but no dice.  I also tried running
"apt-get check" to check dependencies, but it thinks everything is
fine.

Thanks!

Jen

P.S. I started using Debian because of apt-get, but it seems like it's
causing more problems than not ... is there a good reference on this? 
I've searched the Web and looked at the Debian Web site, and also read
through ORA's "Learning Debian GNU/Linux", but it hasn't been too
helpful.

Thanks!

Jen

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MPEG player suggestions?! anyone?

2001-03-19 Thread Mark Livingstone
Looking for a good MPEG player.. so far i've tried XINE and PLAYMPEG and 
both can't rewing/forward the flick. any other suggestions?



Re: help in getting started

2001-03-19 Thread Mark Hurley
On Mon, Mar 19, 2001 at 07:41:17AM +0530, Amit Ganpule wrote:

> Dear Sir,
> I have recently purchased a computer magazine along with that two CDs of 
> Debian were given, now I bought the magazine for the Linux CDs, but I can't 
> make head or tail of how to install, run or do anything with the CDs. I do 
> not know how to partition the hard disc, I am very much interested in 
> switching over to Linux OS. 
> I am looking forward to some guidance from you so that I can start using 
> Debian.
> Regards
> Amit

I moved from RH over to Debian.  I did not ask questions on the lists, nor
did I enter the chat rooms.  Books, man pages, HOWTO's and dedication.  
Even moving from RH to Debian, I reinstalled Debian *several* times to 
get it just right (where I felt comfortable).

I stayed away from any "automation" config tools (that I could) beyond
debian install packages.

Listed all problems and what needed to be set up as I found them! :)  
I don't know squat (yet?), but I do know how to fix what I have learned
without a config tool!

My advice:  DIG IN!  You will learn nothing if you don't insert a CD!

Have FUN!

These guys are a great bunch, it's only my mistake I didn't post here
earlier, but I'm stubborn at times.  ;)

Mark Hurley



Re: Flash Player ?

2001-03-19 Thread Mark Hurley
On Mon, Mar 19, 2001 at 05:26:37PM -0500, Kevin C. Krinke wrote:

> (there should only be two file i believe) into your /usr/lib/netscape/plugins 
> (or /usr/local/netscape/plugins as the case may be). Re-open netscape and 
> visit a flash site to test (for example : 
> http://www.odslinux.com/odslinux.swf ).

I just did it two nights ago.  You may install it in the PATH specified in
Macromedia's README file.  But *I believe* this works better...

Type:  about:plugins   in the address bar.

Scroll down, and find the current flash that is installed with Netscape.
Note the path.  Replace the existing version rather than add a new
version.

The suggested path in the README:
/usr/lib/netscape/plugins

The path where my current version was installed and I replaced:
/usr/lib/netscape/476/navigator/plugins/

FYI: It does work in either location.  The about:plugins is mentioned in
the README file.


Mark Hurley



Re: on upgrading to testing

2001-03-19 Thread Mark Hurley
On Mon, Mar 19, 2001 at 10:31:25PM -0500, James D. Freels wrote:

> libc, gcc, etc.  However, there also was the perl packages which have
> been reported as very buggy.  I can't deal with that.  What is the
> status of these packages now.

Can't locate Debconf/Client/ConfModule.pm in @INC (@INC contains:
/usr/local/lib/perl/5.6.0 /usr/local/share/perl/5.6.0 /usr/lib/perl5
/usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.6.0 /usr/share/perl/5.6.0
/usr/lib/perl5/5.6/i386-linux /usr/lib/perl5/5.6
/usr/lib/perl5/5.005/i386-linux .) at /var/lib/dpkg/info/libpaperg.config
line 3.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /var/lib/dpkg/info/libpaperg.config
line 3.
(in cleanup) Can't call method "close" on an undefined value at
/usr/lib/perl5/Debian/DebConf/ConfModule.pm line 476 during global
destruction.
dpkg: error processing libpaperg (--configure):
 subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 2
 Errors were encountered while processing:
  libpaperg
  E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)


Excuse the rather messy paste. But you have brought up a good point.
Until tonight I have not had this serious of a problem updating Woody. Yes
during the past month, I have noticed irregular errors with Perl modules
while installing packages.

But this isn't affecting "right now".  I am CERTAIN that it will be fixed.
Sitting in testing has it's pros and cons, but I believe Woody has had
more pros than cons!  ;)

Mark Hurley



Re: apt-get and growing cache

2001-03-19 Thread Vadim Kutsyy
> Thank you to point me to the man command that I already know (-;.
> But you not really answer to my questions.

then you may want to try:

man  apt.conf



Re: FW: FW: D-Link DFE-530TX+ via-rhine.o module

2001-03-19 Thread Eric R Cheney

I'm pretty sure the DFE-530TX+ uses the RealTek rtl-8139 driverI have
the same card and that is what I use the DFE-530TX (notice no '+')
uses the via-rhine module (I think)... I had the DFE-530TX a year ago and
used via-rhine I moved to the DFE-530TX+ specifically to get away from
via-rhine a little while backanyway, try the rtl-8139 for your
DFE-530TX+ and I bet that should do it

 

On Mon, 19 Mar 2001, David Carlile wrote:

> I have some more information but I'm still stumped.
> 
> I found /proc/pci... I don't know why I couldn't find it before. Probably
> sleep deprivation. My card is listed. Here is the info:
> 
> Bus 0, defice 11, function 0;
>   Ethernet controller: Unknown vendor Unknown device (rev 16)
>   Vendor id=1186. Device id=1300.
>   Medium devsel. Fast back-to-back capable. IRQ 10. Master Capable.
> Latency=32. Min Gnt=32. Max Lat=64
>   I/O at 0xb000 [0xb001].
>   Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xde80 [0xde0].
> 
> The card doesn't seem to be stomping on any other devices -- It has it's own
> IRQ and memory... I turned PnP off in the bios. I tried a few things like
> moving the card to several other PCI slots. I even explicitly set the pci
> slot it is in to IRQ 10, but to no avail.
> 
> I have been looking through the archive for references to the card and
> driver but all I come up with are posts about how easy it is to get this
> card running. People actually suggest this card to newbies because it is so
> easy to install. This makes me think there is something major that I am
> missing. Here is the error message again:
> 
> "Device or resource busy. Hint: this error can be caused by incorrect module
> parameters, including invalid IO or irq parameters."
> 
> I appreciate any help!
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: David Carlile [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 11:08 AM
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: FW: FW: D-Link DFE-530TX+ via-rhine.o module
> 
> 
> I don't have a /proc/pci folder. This is a pretty bare machine that I built
> just to use as a linux test box, so all I have in there is an AGP video card
> and this PCI D-Link nic card. I haven't used the card under windows, so I
> can't steal any IRQ info from there.
> 
> When I run lsmod, it lists:
> 
> nls_cp437 38801   (autoclean)
> serial19640   0   (autoclean)
> unix  11336   35  (autoclean)
> 
> I haven't had to do this much tweaking since I installed Windows 3.1... I'm
> having flashbacks.
> 
> Where can I read up on diagnosing IO and IRQ parameter problems? (assuming
> that is what the problem is)?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: D-Man [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 9:31 AM
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: FW: D-Link DFE-530TX+ via-rhine.o module
> 
> 
> On Mon, Mar 19, 2001 at 01:26:31AM -0800, David Carlile wrote:
> | Thanks for the quick reply.
> |
> | I tried modconf and selected rtl8193. I didn't include any parameters. I
> got
> | an error message: "Device or resource busy. Hint: this error can be caused
> | by incorrect module parameters, including invalid IO or irq parameters."
> |
> | Any ideas?
> 
> I think that browsing /proc/pci can give some information, but I
> haven't tried that yet.  Have you used the card in windows?  What does
> it report as the IRQ and IO addresses?
> 
> | BTW, I checked the card and the link light is on, which kind of suprises
> me
> | because I didn't think I had a driver loaded... Is it possible a driver
> was
> 
> I would expect the link light to be on if you have the card plugged
> into the service (or cable modem) because a link exists.  If you
> unplug the card from the network the link light will go off.  This is
> hardware independent of the software drivers.  It is a convenient way
> to get information about which part of the card isn't working.  My
> card (LinkSys) has  link, 100, duplex, and tx lights to indicate if a
>  link (network) exists, the network is 100 Mbps, the network is full
>  duplex, the card is transfering data right not.
> 
> -D
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Re: [OT] Linux palmtop computers?

2001-03-19 Thread Jim Richardson
On Tue, Mar 20, 2001 at 07:30:30AM +0800, csj wrote:
> 
> Now that you two mentioned them, I find it curious that both the YOPY 
> and the Agenda VR3 (for virtual reality??)  claim to be the first 
> Linux-based PDAs. Both seem to be in short physical supply, though 
> the YOPY mockups show it to be a gorgeous color model.
> 
> The Compaq product (dis)appears to be even worse, more of a proof of 
> concept thing.
> 
> 

The yopy and agenda are both available for developers. But not as a
general public thing. (Not that you have to be anything special to get
one, just fork over the cash, but they (or at least the agenda) are 'not
ready for prime time' yet. I got the agenda, and it's fun to play with
and dev for, but it's not replacing my palm pilot anytime soon. 


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Re: bad hard drive?

2001-03-19 Thread Marc-Adrian Napoli
hi,

> Bad hard drive.

badblocks shows nothing, and i have another of these 40 gig drives on a
different machine that does the exact some thing.

kaos:/# fsck /backup
Parallelizing fsck version 1.18 (11-Nov-1999)
e2fsck 1.18, 11-Nov-1999 for EXT2 FS 0.5b, 95/08/09
/dev/hdc1 contains a file system with errors, check forced.
Pass 1: Checking inodes, blocks, and sizes
Pass 2: Checking directory structure
Pass 3: Checking directory connectivity
Pass 4: Checking reference counts
Pass 5: Checking group summary information
Padding at end of block bitmap is not set. Fix? yes


/dev/hdc1: * FILE SYSTEM WAS MODIFIED *
/dev/hdc1: 11/5003712 files (0.0% non-contiguous), 157031/10006479 blocks

kaos:/# fsck /backup
Parallelizing fsck version 1.18 (11-Nov-1999)
e2fsck 1.18, 11-Nov-1999 for EXT2 FS 0.5b, 95/08/09
/dev/hdc1: clean, 11/5003712 files, 157031/10006479 blocks

kaos:/# mount -o rw /backup
kaos:/# cd /backup
kaos:/backup# touch aoeu
touch: aoeu: Read-only file system
kaos:/backup# cd ..
kaos:/# umount /backup

kaos:/# fsck /backup
Parallelizing fsck version 1.18 (11-Nov-1999)
e2fsck 1.18, 11-Nov-1999 for EXT2 FS 0.5b, 95/08/09
/dev/hdc1 contains a file system with errors, check forced.
Pass 1: Checking inodes, blocks, and sizes

and it goes on with the same error!

someone mentioned about these drives using ATA66? would that have any effect
here?

Regards,

Marc-Adrian Napoli
Network Administrator
Connect infobahn Australia
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>
> On Tue, Mar 20, 2001 at 11:12:14AM +1100, Marc-Adrian Napoli wrote:
> >
> > when copying files over to this drive, i always get errors. by that i
mean i
> > run fsck on the drive and there are errors. as soon as the fsck is
finished
> > i run it again and there are errors again. its now to the point where i
cant
> > even mount the drive read/write because there are so many errors!
> >
> > is the drive simply too big? am i getting these errors because bios
didnt
> > detect them?
>
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compiling kernel modules

2001-03-19 Thread Seth Arnold
Greetings again friends; thanks for the wonderful help with the
rxvt-xpm. I am once again a happy X user. New problem tonight. I want to
compile kernel modules for kernel version 2.2.18 using my debian
unstable systems. I thought my SMP 2.4.2 system was causing problems[1]
but I think it turns out to be libc6-dev that is causing problems[2].

So, I built a new machine. I took slink discs, installed a base system,
upgraded to potato, and then to unstable. (Damn, I'm impressed it worked
as well as it did. :) Now /usr/include/linux/* contains header files for
kernel version 2.4.2-pre2. So, when I build a module on the machine[3]
and try to load it, I get complaints that the module was built for a
different kernel and won't load it.[4]

Can someone please suggest how to write modules for older kernel
versions? Thanks! :)


[1]: 2.4.2 SMP dual celerons, glibc 2.2.2-1, gcc 2.95.3. I would build
the module in a subdirectory of the 2.2.18 kernel sources with the
#include set to the 2.2.18 headers. Those headers of course #include
, so they go to /usr/include and get its 2.4.2-pre2
headers.

[2]: dpkg -S /usr/include/linux/modsetver.h returns libc6-dev

[3]: 
/* hello.c -- hello world kernel module
 * taken from ori pomerantz, this one by seth arnold
 * [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 */

#include "../include/linux/kernel.h"
#include "../include/linux/module.h"

#if CONFIG_MODVERSION==1
#define MODVERSION
#include "../include/linux/modversions.h"
#endif

int init_module()
{
printk("Hello, world!\n");

/* non-zero returns means we failed to load */
return 0;
}

void cleanup_module()
{
printk("Module unloaded\n");
}

/* end of hello.c */

# MAKEFILE
CC=gcc
MODCFLAGS := -Wall -DMODULE -D__KERNEL__ -DLINUX

hello.o: hello.c ../include/linux/version.h
$(CC) $(MODCFLAGS) -c hello.c


[4]: $ sudo insmod hello.o
hello.o: kernel-module version mismatch
hello.o was compiled for kernel version 2.4.2-pre2
while this kernel is version 2.0.36.

Note that I don't care that this machine is currently running 2.0.36.
The same problems occur with a vmware running 2.2.18. Either way, insmod
is telling me the very dirt simple module is for the version of headers
in /usr/include/linux rather than the more local headers.

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Re: lm-sensors and 2.4 kernels

2001-03-19 Thread Jens Gecius
Lee Elliott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I got this from the authors:
> 
> "> 
> > Could you try it with the latest kernel and lm-sensors from CVS?
> > There is a chance that this was already solved.
> 
> Also please make sure you (or even your distribution) have applied no 
> other patches; mkpatch typically only works on unpatched, vanilla
> kernels."
> 
> I'll try the suggestions sometime in the next few days or so - bit short
> of time right now.

Due to serious USB-problems with 2.4.2 I just downgraded to 2.4.1. Of
course, I had to recompile lm-sensors and i2c, too. So, I'm using
debian-sources for the modules and not the latest kernel. It works.

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Re: New user missing his true-type fonts

2001-03-19 Thread Matthew Dalton
"Paul D. Smith" wrote:
> 
> I did this a few months ago and wrote it down; try this and see if it
> helps:
> 
>   http://www.paulandlesley.org/linux/debian_tt.html

If you've got the doc-linux-text package installed, you'll find the
truetype-debian howto somewhere under /usr/share/doc/HOWTO/en-txt/ (I
think it's called TT-Debian.gz).

This howto has been in Debian since at least v2.1 (Slink).

I just got truetype fonts working using this document just a few days
ago, on a newly installed Potato machine. The instructions are very
straight forward.



Re: on upgrading to testing

2001-03-19 Thread James D. Freels
The main reason I am considering going with the unstable version is to
get the AA fonts in KDE 2.1.  I did a "apt-get -d install kde-base"
after enabling the unstable tree and hitting an "apt-get update".
What I found was most of the development packages as I expected like
libc, gcc, etc.  However, there also was the perl packages which have
been reported as very buggy.  I can't deal with that.  What is the
status of these packages now.

Like you , my system must be functional at work.  I don't use anything
else.

>There have been some issues.  Bugs crop up.  I can't remember the last
>bug which actually caused me grief.  I think it must have been the
>libfreetype6 one for AA fonts in KDE.  But I have been running non-AA
>KDE for months now.  I am currently having a problem with xlibs not
>getting installed, but it isn't hosing my system.
>
>I think (hope?) that the days of "broken bash", and "no more /dev" are
>over.  I will only use Debian unstable from now on.  Any other Debian
>becomes more and more unmaintained as time passes.  I can't deal with
>that.  This is my work laptop, and even though it _must_ work all the
>time, I am quite fine with testing/unstable.
>
>rob
>
>


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Re: audio cd's

2001-03-19 Thread Carel Fellinger
On Tue, Mar 20, 2001 at 01:15:46PM +1100, John Griffiths wrote:
...
> >Just a wild guess: are you using rewritables?
> >Rewritables are very picky.
> 
> first time i used plain CD-R, second CD-RW.. anything i can do to make them 
> happy?

Only newer audio-cd-players can read rewritables, and even then with many
errors.  Most older players can't read them at all, hence the "No Disk".
Recordables on the other hand should work fine.
Though I've heard of incompatibilities having to do with the combination
of cd-player, cd-recorder and cd-recordable brand, so YMMV. 

Could you try it on someone's else's stereo?

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Re: kde virus-like menu masher

2001-03-19 Thread Nate Amsden
Nick Croft wrote:
> 
> Debianites,
> 
> Half the attraction of debian is the menu-update system which is activated
> by apt-get or relatives.
> 
> I've been happily working away and using either WindowMaker Afterstep or E,
> mainly WindowMaker. On another machine I installed kde (kdebase_4%3a2.0.1-4)
> last December, and had no probs. Liked konqueror.
> 
> Yesterday I put (on the main machine) kdebase 4:2.1.0.1-5 and other k 
> packages.

where did you get it from? if it's from a 3rd party source (i.e. kde.tdyc.com
or
something) im not suprised bad things happen. seems that kde users only want
kde..gnome users only want gnome..if you got it from debian's mirrors then
maybe its a known bug 

i have kde 2.0 installed from tdyc.com(the latest 2.1/2.2 or something was
badly broken the last time i tried to apt-get it) and it runs good. i
like KDM over other display managers(thats the only reason i got kde 2 
installed)

(i happily run afterstep..)

nate

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Re: Debian and Trident 9385 VGA Card

2001-03-19 Thread Nate Amsden
"Greene, Sam" wrote:
> 
> I'm trying to install Debian on my laptop.  My card is listed at
> http://www.xfree86.org/cardlist.html
> as supported.  Is a generic driver the only thing that is offered?  The best
> resolution I can get is
> 640x480.  I configure it for 800x600 and 16 bit color with no luck.

i would try MetroX or AcceleratedX (run a web search for them) they are not
free but well worth it if you can't get Xfree workin for some reason or
another(i bought acceleratedX recently for a solaris8/x86 machine). i have
never tried trident with linux, it was bad enough under other OSs i wouldn't
want to try it under linux :/

note that neither metroX or accelX may support your card...but they might.
both have downloadable demos i think.

nate

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Re: Problems runing xawtv

2001-03-19 Thread Nate Amsden
Stan Brown wrote:
> 
> I have build a nice new machine with a WinTV card. Now I want to plat :-)
> 
> Loaded the xawtv package, and when I try to run it I get:
> 
> Script started on Mon Mar 19 20:47:29 2001
> yogi:/etc# xawtv
> xawtv: error while loading shared libraries: libXaw3d.so.6: cannot load 
> shared object file: No such file or directory
> yogi:/etc#
> Script done on Mon Mar 19 20:47:39 2001
> 
> What can I do t fix this?

interesting. apt-get should of taken care of that i have xawtv running 24/7 on
a machine
in front of me and libXaw3d.so.6 is part of the xaw3dg package(assuming your
running potato)

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Re: New user missing his true-type fonts

2001-03-19 Thread Paul D. Smith
I did this a few months ago and wrote it down; try this and see if it
helps:

  http://www.paulandlesley.org/linux/debian_tt.html

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Re: New user missing his true-type fonts

2001-03-19 Thread kmself
on Tue, Mar 20, 2001 at 11:37:50PM +1100, Andrew Sione Taumoefolau ([EMAIL 
PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I'm a relatively new Debian user (I converted from Mandrake a month or two
> ago) and am having a lot of trouble getting true-type fonts working. I'm
> running a straight, recently upgraded (via ftp.au.debian.org) version of
> Potato, and the S3 X Server (3.something, whichever is distributed with
> Potato :). I've tried installing xfstt -- I apt-get installed it, everything
> seemed to go okay, I put some true-type fonts in its default directory and
> it ran and all, but to no avail; webpages that use Verdana, Georgia and all
> the other MS fonts still look awful.
> 
> Help would be much appreciated. My current lack of ttf support is about the
> only thing keeping me from spending all of my time in Debian :).

OK, let's do this one bit at a time.


  - You're running XF86 v 3.3.x, I believe?
  - You *do* have xfstt installed.
  - You've created a truetypes font directory.

Questions:

  - Is xfstt in fact running?

  $ ps aux | grep [x]fstt

  - Have you added the line

  xset fp+ unix/:7101

...to /etc/X11/XF86Session?

  - Does your X session access these fonts?  You should see some of your
TTF fonts listed.  If this is the case, then you *do* have your TTF
fonts installed properly, but there's a problem with how they're
being rendered.  If not, you're not getting your TTF fonts loaded
properly.

Cheers.

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Re: Gnome font size settings?

2001-03-19 Thread kmself
on Mon, Mar 19, 2001 at 09:18:01PM -0500, Stan Brown ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> I have a new machine with a nice 19" monitor, with failry high
> resolutint 1920x1440. However I find the resultant fonts on the Gnome
> applications to be too small, for tat matter the icons themeselves are
> a bit small at this resolutinn.
> 
> Short of reducing the resolutin, how can I make the apps have bigger fonts?

Set your linesize to 72 chars.

Gnome control panel.

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Re: FW: FW: D-Link DFE-530TX+ via-rhine.o module

2001-03-19 Thread Jason Gunthorpe

On Mon, 19 Mar 2001, David Carlile wrote:

> I have been looking through the archive for references to the card and
> driver but all I come up with are posts about how easy it is to get this
> card running. People actually suggest this card to newbies because it is so

Dlink changed the configuration of the realtek they were using during
later production runs. The particular card you have does not report itself
as a realtek, so the driver does not find it.

The only fix is to modify the kernel driver. The simplest route is to use
the donald becker drivers (http://www.scyld.com/network/) for the 8139
which has an entry, or you can modify the PCI probe of the linux drivers.
I would expect that the 2.4.2 kernels have this patch applied, but 2.4.0
did not.. 

It would be very nice if the next drop of the potato boot floopies
included an entry in the realtek driver code for this chip.

The update to the 2.4.0 8139too driver looks like this:

static struct pci_device_id rtl8139_pci_tbl[] __devinitdata = {
{0x10ec, 0x8139, PCI_ANY_ID, PCI_ANY_ID, 0, 0, RTL8139 },
{0x10ec, 0x8138, PCI_ANY_ID, PCI_ANY_ID, 0, 0, RTL8139_CB },
{0x1113, 0x1211, PCI_ANY_ID, PCI_ANY_ID, 0, 0, SMC1211TX },
/*  {0x1113, 0x1211, PCI_ANY_ID, PCI_ANY_ID, 0, 0, MPX5030 },*/
{0x1500, 0x1360, PCI_ANY_ID, PCI_ANY_ID, 0, 0, DELTA8139 },
{0x4033, 0x1360, PCI_ANY_ID, PCI_ANY_ID, 0, 0, ADDTRON8139 },
{0x1186, 0x1300, PCI_ANY_ID, PCI_ANY_ID, 0, 0, RTL8139 }, // dlink
{0,}
};

A fix for the 2.2 kernel should be similar in nature, but the table looks
different IIRC.

Jason



Gnome font size settings?

2001-03-19 Thread Stan Brown
I have a new machine with a nice 19" monitor, with failry high resolutint
1920x1440. However I find the resultant fonts on the Gnome applications to be 
too
small, for tat matter the icons themeselves are a bit small at this resolutinn.

Short of reducing the resolutin, how can I make the apps have bigger fonts?

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Re: audio cd's

2001-03-19 Thread John Griffiths
>> #cdrecord dev=0,0,0 speed=4 -v -dao -eject defpregap=1 -audio *.wav
>
>never used defpregap myself, yet.  IIRQ some cdplayers could have
>problems with non standard gaps.  Have you tried without dao and
>defpregap=1?

ok i'll try... i thought DAO was needed for audio but i guess thats what -audio 
is for...

>> which looked fine, and plays on my computer, only not on my stereo (which 
>> says "No Disc").. i HAVE read the manual but would appreciate any pointers 
>> you guys might have.
>
>Just a wild guess: are you using rewritables?
>Rewritables are very picky.

first time i used plain CD-R, second CD-RW.. anything i can do to make them 
happy?


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Re: audio cd's

2001-03-19 Thread Carel Fellinger
On Tue, Mar 20, 2001 at 09:41:23AM +1100, John Griffiths wrote:
> Hi guys, apologies to those who;ve heard it all before...
> 
> I used cd paranoia to extract a bunch of wav's from an audio cd...
> 
> i now want to put them back onto another cd so i can play it on a stereo
> 
> i used
> 
> #cdrecord dev=0,0,0 speed=4 -v -dao -eject defpregap=1 -audio *.wav

never used defpregap myself, yet.  IIRQ some cdplayers could have
problems with non standard gaps.  Have you tried without dao and
defpregap=1?
 
> which looked fine, and plays on my computer, only not on my stereo (which 
> says "No Disc").. i HAVE read the manual but would appreciate any pointers 
> you guys might have.

Just a wild guess: are you using rewritables?
Rewritables are very picky.

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Problems runing xawtv

2001-03-19 Thread Stan Brown
I have build a nice new machine with a WinTV card. Now I want to plat :-)

Loaded the xawtv package, and when I try to run it I get:


Script started on Mon Mar 19 20:47:29 2001
yogi:/etc# xawtv
xawtv: error while loading shared libraries: libXaw3d.so.6: cannot load shared 
object file: No such file or directory
yogi:/etc# 
Script done on Mon Mar 19 20:47:39 2001

What can I do t fix this?

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FW: FW: D-Link DFE-530TX+ via-rhine.o module

2001-03-19 Thread David Carlile
I have some more information but I'm still stumped.

I found /proc/pci... I don't know why I couldn't find it before. Probably
sleep deprivation. My card is listed. Here is the info:

Bus 0, defice 11, function 0;
Ethernet controller: Unknown vendor Unknown device (rev 16)
Vendor id=1186. Device id=1300.
Medium devsel. Fast back-to-back capable. IRQ 10. Master Capable.
Latency=32. Min Gnt=32. Max Lat=64
I/O at 0xb000 [0xb001].
Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xde80 [0xde0].

The card doesn't seem to be stomping on any other devices -- It has it's own
IRQ and memory... I turned PnP off in the bios. I tried a few things like
moving the card to several other PCI slots. I even explicitly set the pci
slot it is in to IRQ 10, but to no avail.

I have been looking through the archive for references to the card and
driver but all I come up with are posts about how easy it is to get this
card running. People actually suggest this card to newbies because it is so
easy to install. This makes me think there is something major that I am
missing. Here is the error message again:

"Device or resource busy. Hint: this error can be caused by incorrect module
parameters, including invalid IO or irq parameters."

I appreciate any help!

-Original Message-
From: David Carlile [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 11:08 AM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: FW: FW: D-Link DFE-530TX+ via-rhine.o module


I don't have a /proc/pci folder. This is a pretty bare machine that I built
just to use as a linux test box, so all I have in there is an AGP video card
and this PCI D-Link nic card. I haven't used the card under windows, so I
can't steal any IRQ info from there.

When I run lsmod, it lists:

nls_cp437   38801   (autoclean)
serial  19640   0   (autoclean)
unix11336   35  (autoclean)

I haven't had to do this much tweaking since I installed Windows 3.1... I'm
having flashbacks.

Where can I read up on diagnosing IO and IRQ parameter problems? (assuming
that is what the problem is)?

-Original Message-
From: D-Man [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 9:31 AM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: FW: D-Link DFE-530TX+ via-rhine.o module


On Mon, Mar 19, 2001 at 01:26:31AM -0800, David Carlile wrote:
| Thanks for the quick reply.
|
| I tried modconf and selected rtl8193. I didn't include any parameters. I
got
| an error message: "Device or resource busy. Hint: this error can be caused
| by incorrect module parameters, including invalid IO or irq parameters."
|
| Any ideas?

I think that browsing /proc/pci can give some information, but I
haven't tried that yet.  Have you used the card in windows?  What does
it report as the IRQ and IO addresses?

| BTW, I checked the card and the link light is on, which kind of suprises
me
| because I didn't think I had a driver loaded... Is it possible a driver
was

I would expect the link light to be on if you have the card plugged
into the service (or cable modem) because a link exists.  If you
unplug the card from the network the link light will go off.  This is
hardware independent of the software drivers.  It is a convenient way
to get information about which part of the card isn't working.  My
card (LinkSys) has  link, 100, duplex, and tx lights to indicate if a
 link (network) exists, the network is 100 Mbps, the network is full
 duplex, the card is transfering data right not.

-D


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Re: how to enable reiserfs in 2.4.2 kernel

2001-03-19 Thread Hall Stevenson
* Charles Lewis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [010319 20:05]:
> I'm running a custom 2.4.2 kernel and I have a 60GB drive on which I've
> successfully run mkreiserfs. However when I go to mount it as type reiserfs
> it tells me reiserfs is not supported by the kernel. I've gone through
> menuconfig and I can't find it anywhere. Anyone know what the secret is?

It's the 4th item listed under "FileSystems". You *do* have to select
"Prompt for development and/or imcomplete code/drivers" under "Code
maturity...".

Regards
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RE: IDE burning

2001-03-19 Thread Chun Kit Edwin Lau
Hi

If that is what you have missed (the bootparam) you can find them
in the CD-burning HOWTO. it is a very good document... 

Edwin

On Mon, 19 Mar 2001 18:18:19 "Price, Tim" wrote:
> Hi Frederic,
> 
> I've never used kernel SCSI-emulation, but I believe some paramters have
> to
> be passed at boot time (/dev/hdaXX=SCSI or somesuch). Exact details
> should
> be in #man lilo and the appropriate kernel SCSI emulation documentation.
> 
> I'm sitting in front of an NT box at work :(, or I'd tell you.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Tim
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Frédéric de Villamil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, 20 March 2001 8:41
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: IDE burning
> 
> 
> Hello,
> I'm using an IDE mitsumi cr-480te cd burner.
> I've recompiled my kernel with scsi generic, scsi emulation and scsi
> cdrom 
> support in the kernel (2.2.17 on potato)
> When I'm trying to burn using cdrecord or xcdroast (that's the same =),
> no 
> problem to configure; the cd is burnt, but the data is not transfered.
> and I
> 
> have an error message. Have I forgotten to do something, or is there a
> module 
> I haven't load?
> Burning is the last thing I miss to migrate to a 100% GNU/linux debian 
> machine, so help me please =)
> frederic
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New user missing his true-type fonts

2001-03-19 Thread Andrew Sione Taumoefolau
Hi,

I'm a relatively new Debian user (I converted from Mandrake a month or two
ago) and am having a lot of trouble getting true-type fonts working. I'm
running a straight, recently upgraded (via ftp.au.debian.org) version of
Potato, and the S3 X Server (3.something, whichever is distributed with
Potato :). I've tried installing xfstt -- I apt-get installed it, everything
seemed to go okay, I put some true-type fonts in its default directory and
it ran and all, but to no avail; webpages that use Verdana, Georgia and all
the other MS fonts still look awful.

Help would be much appreciated. My current lack of ttf support is about the
only thing keeping me from spending all of my time in Debian :).

Thanks for your time!

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Re: Can't reach ipchains from 2.4

2001-03-19 Thread Jonathan Markevich
On Mon, Mar 19, 2001 at 06:58:31PM -0500, David B. Harris wrote:
> To quote Jonathan Markevich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> # I'm trying to compile in ipchains emulation support in kernel 2.4, but
> make
> # xconfig has it greyed out and I have no idea what I need to enable to
> get to
> # it.  Can someone point me in the right direction?
> 
> You need to disable all 'iptables' support in order for IPChains
> compatibility to be available. Or, you have to compile everything
> iptables/ipchains-related as modules. Only one type can be in use at a
> time :)

Bingo!  Thanks to both of you who responded...!

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the knowledge that one can communicate it.
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Re: bad hard drive?

2001-03-19 Thread Corwin Grey

Bad hard drive.

On Tue, Mar 20, 2001 at 11:12:14AM +1100, Marc-Adrian Napoli wrote:
> 
> when copying files over to this drive, i always get errors. by that i mean i
> run fsck on the drive and there are errors. as soon as the fsck is finished
> i run it again and there are errors again. its now to the point where i cant
> even mount the drive read/write because there are so many errors!
> 
> is the drive simply too big? am i getting these errors because bios didnt
> detect them?


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garage sales & Goodwill for old TRS-80s, CPM machines & Apple ]['s before
they would buy Microsoft. That's not exactly a ringing endorsement."
-- Seen on Slashdot



how to enable reiserfs in 2.4.2 kernel

2001-03-19 Thread Charles Lewis
I'm running a custom 2.4.2 kernel and I have a 60GB drive on which I've
successfully run mkreiserfs. However when I go to mount it as type reiserfs
it tells me reiserfs is not supported by the kernel. I've gone through
menuconfig and I can't find it anywhere. Anyone know what the secret is?

-- 
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bad hard drive?

2001-03-19 Thread Marc-Adrian Napoli
hi all,

i have a 40gig IDE drive on a dual800 system running debian 2.2. bios did
not detect this drive correctly.

however, an fdisk on the /dev/hdb could see the drive, and i made a
partition /dev/hdb1 which was all 40 gig ext2.

when copying files over to this drive, i always get errors. by that i mean i
run fsck on the drive and there are errors. as soon as the fsck is finished
i run it again and there are errors again. its now to the point where i cant
even mount the drive read/write because there are so many errors!

is the drive simply too big? am i getting these errors because bios didnt
detect them?

Regards,

Marc-Adrian Napoli
Network Administrator
Connect infobahn Australia
+61 2 92120387







Re: pdf editor ?

2001-03-19 Thread Rick Rezinas
On Mon, 19 Mar 2001, Hall Stevenson wrote:

> think you can even create a PDF "from scratch" or from nothing. You have
> to start with another file.
> 

I have seen software to generate pdf's "on the fly", but they appear to
have been templated first. 

rick

> 
> Regards
> Hall
> 
> 
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Re: pdf editor ?

2001-03-19 Thread Ted Harding
On 19-Mar-01 Hall Stevenson wrote:
> Ultimately, if you want to edit anything, you need the original. I
> don't think you can even create a PDF "from scratch" or from nothing.
> You have to start with another file.

Well, in fact you can, if you understand the PDF format (which is
far from easy), since a valid PDF file can be written as ASCII text
-- even one which includes graphics and fancy fonts.

A PDF document in ASCII looks a bit like XML, only with different
words. An example is attached (base64-encoded to avois line breaks).

Admittedly I created it by converting the PostScript source for an
example in the Blue Book, for which the source is:

  %!PS-Adobe-3.0
  /inch {72 mul} def
  /wedge { newpath
  %%  rgbR rgbG rgbB setrgbcolor
0 0 moveto  1 0 translate  15 rotate  0 15 sin translate
0 0 15 sin -90 90 arc  closepath} def
  gsave
  %%0 inch 0 inch translate  3 inch 4 inch translate
0.5 inch 0.5 inch scale  0.02 setlinewidth
1 1 12  { 12 div setgray
  gsave  wedge gsave fill grestore  0 setgray stroke  grestore
  30 rotate  } for
  grestore
  showpage

but, as you can see from the PDF file, I could in principle
have simply typed it once I had worked out what to type.

Ted.



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Re: Can't reach ipchains from 2.4

2001-03-19 Thread David B . Harris
To quote Jonathan Markevich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
# I'm trying to compile in ipchains emulation support in kernel 2.4, but
make
# xconfig has it greyed out and I have no idea what I need to enable to
get to
# it.  Can someone point me in the right direction?

You need to disable all 'iptables' support in order for IPChains
compatibility to be available. Or, you have to compile everything
iptables/ipchains-related as modules. Only one type can be in use at a
time :)

David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay
Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)



Re: Changing to MD5 shadow passwords?

2001-03-19 Thread Ethan Benson
On Mon, Mar 19, 2001 at 10:04:20AM -0500, R. Ransbottom wrote:
> I would like to convert all of my 
> Debian 2.0 and 2.2 systems to MD5 
> shadow passwords.  If I understand
> the docs correctly all that needs doing
> is to add md5 to the apropriate lines
> in /etc/pam.d/passwd and /etc/pam.d/login.
> 
> Is this correct?

yes, check all the files in /etc/pam.d for `password' lines, add md5
to all password lines with pam_unix.so as the module.  

note that passwords are only converted to md5 after the user changes
thier password.  

-- 
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Re: allowing ordinary user (non-root) to run apt-get...dpkg...

2001-03-19 Thread Ethan Benson
On Mon, Mar 19, 2001 at 09:52:43AM -0500, Walter Tautz wrote:
> i suppose there are a number of solutions ...
> 
> adding an appropriate group characteristic to
> the executables and the places apt, dpkg write to
> under /var and then adding users to the group...

that won't do anything useful every debian package writes to the
filesystem in places only writable by root.  

> setuidnot a good idea
> 
> 
> some sort of server that runs on the host and receives
> requests for software and it does the installs
> 
> I am thinking of the situation where one has a large collection
> of computers with many users. It would be an interesting experiment
> to see which packages most users need rather than installing a huge
> collection of packages by default. Instead  let the users determine their
> needs provided they can use a better tool than apt-cache search or some
> kind of user friendly frontend.

allowing ordinary users to install packages is automatic full root
access.  many packages have interactive postinst scripts, all the user
needs to do is install one and wait for the script to run, then use
job control to background the script and gain root.  or if that
doesn't work they can definitly get root if they manage to upgrade a
package with an altered config file.  when dpkg asks what to do about
the altered config file they can use the `diff' option and then use
less' shell escapes to run a root shell.  they could also find out
about a huge security hole in some package, and then install that
package before a fix is made etc etc.  

don't allow anyone to install software globally that you don't trust
with the root password. 

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Re: pam issuing cron login messages to every consol WHY!

2001-03-19 Thread Dave Thayer
On Mon, Mar 19, 2001 at 10:32:27AM -0600, John Foster wrote:
> I have upgreaded to testing and have now got pam sending login messages
> to every consol screen for every cron login. What is with this? How do I
> get rid of it? It used to mail them to root.

Make sure that you have klogd installed, It's been split off from
sysklogd. After installing klogd you will need to restart cron so it
will notice the change and start sending its messages to the correct
places.

HTH

your pal dave
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Re: Flash Player ?

2001-03-19 Thread Jürgen A. Erhard
> "Stan" == Stan Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Stan> What's the Debian way of installing a Flash Player plugin for 
Netscape?

apt-get install navigator/communicator... netscape-base-476 contains the
flash plugin...

Bye, J

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Re: change to md5 passwds

2001-03-19 Thread Ethan Benson
On Mon, Mar 19, 2001 at 11:06:46AM -0600, Kevin Long wrote:
> I am switching a system from RH 6.0 to debian.  I installed without md5
> passwords, but could not get the RH password files to log me in.
> 
> When I ran john the ripper on the old passwd files it said something to the
> effect that it thought the passwds were FreeBSD MD5 passwords.
> 
> Assuming that is correct -- how can I change passwd to use md5 and will that
> allow me to drop in the existing passwd, shadow, and group files; or does
> anyone know of something else I might need to take into account

md5 hashes should work regardless of what hash passwd will create.
however some time ago it was discovered that pam created bogus md5
hashes due to an endianess bug, backward compatability was retained
for awhile but it might be gone now.  the only difference when md5 is
enabled is `md5' is added to the arguments to the pam_unix.so password
lines.  these are not used during authentication.  

also you can't just drop redhat passwd files onto debian, you will
break your system.  you can only take the ordinary user accounts from
redhat and add them to the debian passwd files.  that is uids above
500 from redhat are ok, any uid below 500 is not.  

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sigpipe and ssh

2001-03-19 Thread john
Hi all,

I get this strange error when attempting to ssh to our name server. The
connection comes and goes so fast, but when I do eventually get in (took
5 tries this time, I show the last 3):

Mar 20 09:29:28 ns sshd[3879]: Accepted rsa for john from 203.45.165.254
port 40476
Mar 20 09:29:28 ns PAM_unix[3879]: (ssh) session opened for user john by
(uid=0)
Mar 20 09:29:28 ns sshd[3879]: Disconnecting: Command terminated on
signal 13.
Mar 20 09:29:28 ns PAM_unix[3879]: (ssh) session closed for user john
Mar 20 09:29:32 ns sshd[3882]: Accepted rsa for john from 203.45.165.254
port 40477
Mar 20 09:29:32 ns PAM_unix[3882]: (ssh) session opened for user john by
(uid=0)
Mar 20 09:29:32 ns sshd[3882]: Disconnecting: Command terminated on
signal 13.
Mar 20 09:29:32 ns PAM_unix[3882]: (ssh) session closed for user john
Mar 20 09:29:35 ns sshd[3885]: Accepted rsa for john from 203.45.165.254
port 40478
Mar 20 09:29:36 ns PAM_unix[3885]: (ssh) session opened for user john by
(uid=0)

from auth.log on the remote box.

Now man 7 signal says that a sigpipe is "Broken pipe: write to pipe with
no readers". I have no idea what this means in this context.

Any ideas or insight appreciated.

Both boxes are potato, the remote is running 2.4.2, this end 2.4.1.

Thanx,

John P Foster




Re: [OT] Linux palmtop computers?

2001-03-19 Thread csj
On Monday 19 March 2001 16:02, kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote:

> > On Friday 16 March 2001 08:32, Michael P. Soulier wrote:
> > > On Fri, Mar 16, 2001 at 07:54:50AM +0800, csj wrote:
> > > > I'm looking for a Linux-based palmtop computer. Is there such
> > > > an animal? I have hit a number of project pages (e.g.
> > > > pengachu), but no one seems to be shipping a finished
> > > > product.
> > > >
> > > > I prefer a handheld with a keyboard because I find
> > > > handwriting recognition too fiddly to let you get any real
> > > > work done, like writing the occasional C program ;>)
> > >
> > > Check out the Agenda.
> > >
> > > http://www.agendacomputing.com/

> 'linux handhelds' at google turns up links to other devices.  YOPY,
> the Compaq handheld, etc.  You may also want to investigate
> wearables, though you'll likely have to build your own in this
> case.

Now that you two mentioned them, I find it curious that both the YOPY 
and the Agenda VR3 (for virtual reality??)  claim to be the first 
Linux-based PDAs. Both seem to be in short physical supply, though 
the YOPY mockups show it to be a gorgeous color model.

The Compaq product (dis)appears to be even worse, more of a proof of 
concept thing.



Re: Installing a new machine with a selected list of package ...

2001-03-19 Thread Jimmy Richards
Hi ALL,

Yeah, I think the person that kmself was resopnding to left out
doing the 'apt-get update' before doing the 'dselect install'.


 Just to let you know, I made a script that does this if your
interested in it. It just makes doing these several commands easier. You
know, automates the process, plus it stores the package state on  a
floppy. That way if your system needs a re-install from scratch, you can
get back to having your same exact packages again. It's real good for
replicating the package state of a system to others. But, as shown in
the letter below, it can be done by entering several commands on the
command line. If your interested though, my script can be found at
sourceforge and freshmeat and it's called 'clone-debian'.


Regards,

Jimmy Richards




On 19 Mar 2001 13:34:24 -0800, kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote:
> on Thu, Mar 15, 2001 at 06:36:19PM +0100, Bruno BEAUFILS ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
> wrote:
> > 
> > I would like to install my new laptop with the same packages as those
> > installed on my desktop (which is a sid debian).
> > 
> > So I installed a basic potato debian without selecting any packages, then 
> > after
> > the first reboot I mount (via NFS) a directory where I stored a debian ftp
> > site mirror plus some specific packages (a home made kernel (build with
> > kernel-package) and such packages (alsa-modules, pcmcia-modules)).
> > 
> > I configure apt such that it looks for package on this nfs mounted 
> > directory.
> > 
> > I then installed my own packages (kernel, pcmcia, etc.) reboot the system,
> > then I do on my desktop
> > 
> > dpkg --get-selections > mylist
> > 
> > and on my laptop
> > 
> > cat mylist | dpkg --set-selections 
> > 
> > I have then done a :
> > 
> > dselect install
> 
> I believe what you want to do is 'apt-get update' rather than run
> deselect at this point.
> 
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Re: pam issuing cron login messages to every consol WHY!

2001-03-19 Thread Dimitri Maziuk
On Mon, Mar 19, 2001 at 01:32:40PM -0800, kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote:
> on Mon, Mar 19, 2001 at 10:32:27AM -0600, John Foster ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
> wrote:
> > I have upgreaded to testing and have now got pam sending login messages
> > to every consol screen for every cron login. What is with this? How do I
> > get rid of it? It used to mail them to root.
> 
> Redirect your syslog output.  I tend to park mine on VT 12.  See
> appropriate manpages (syslog, ksyslogd) for info.

Sorry, wrong answer. I had the same problem with properly configured
syslog-ng, and playing with config files didn't help. I ended up
commenting out the "log { source(src); filter(f_cron); destination(cron); };"
line in syslog-ng.conf.

Dima
-- 
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I'm going to exit now since you don't want me to replace the printcap. If you 
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RE: IDE burning

2001-03-19 Thread Price, Tim
Hi Frederic,

I've never used kernel SCSI-emulation, but I believe some paramters have to
be passed at boot time (/dev/hdaXX=SCSI or somesuch). Exact details should
be in #man lilo and the appropriate kernel SCSI emulation documentation.

I'm sitting in front of an NT box at work :(, or I'd tell you.

Cheers

Tim

-Original Message-
From: Frédéric de Villamil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, 20 March 2001 8:41
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: IDE burning


Hello,
I'm using an IDE mitsumi cr-480te cd burner.
I've recompiled my kernel with scsi generic, scsi emulation and scsi cdrom 
support in the kernel (2.2.17 on potato)
When I'm trying to burn using cdrecord or xcdroast (that's the same =), no 
problem to configure; the cd is burnt, but the data is not transfered. and I

have an error message. Have I forgotten to do something, or is there a
module 
I haven't load?
Burning is the last thing I miss to migrate to a 100% GNU/linux debian 
machine, so help me please =)
frederic
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Re: Reboot only w/ mouse.

2001-03-19 Thread kmself
on Mon, Mar 19, 2001 at 02:19:16PM -0800, Joey Hess ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Hall Stevenson wrote:
> > Actually, assuming he's looking at a console prompt or in an xterm, you
> > could probably find the right letters in the various text that's
> > visible.
> 
> And if they're not, you can try to run ls, or w, or some other
> commands, and once you find the letters a, s, c, and i, you're home free
> (ascii).

The facts that:

  - Someone's proposed this.
  - Someone else has expanded on it.
  - And I've done it myself.

...are somewhat disturbing.

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Re: Can't reach ipchains from 2.4

2001-03-19 Thread Thomas Weinbrenner
Jonathan Markevich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I'm trying to compile in ipchains emulation support in kernel 2.4,
> but make xconfig has it greyed out and I have no idea what I need to
> enable to get to it.  Can someone point me in the right direction?

I believe, you can't include iptables and ipchains (or ipfwadm)
together in the kernel.

Select M or N for "IP tables support" and you can select ipchains, too.

-- 
Thomas Weinbrenner



Re: apt-server

2001-03-19 Thread Roberto Rosario
Let's see if this might help:

I share the apt/archives directory on the firewall/fileserver via NFS with this
entry:

file: /etc/exports

/var/cache/apt/archives 192.168.0.2(rw,no_root_squash,insecure_locks)

and mount this directory on the workstations in this same location that way
whenever I download a package on one workstation is automatically available to
all others without a re-download.  Downsides 1-Only one workstation can use apt
at a given time, 2-You need to use the kernel-nfs server that provides lock file
support over NFS, other wise dpkg refuses to run(hence the option =
insecure_locks).  This method only shares the packages and not the package 
lists,
thus allowing some PCs to run slink others potato or woody.

Hope this gives you any idea.
/Robert/


Bernhard Wesely wrote:

> Oh sorry,... I just noticed, that my question was not clear.
>
> I know how to install debian packages, but I want to create a
> company-internal apt-server, and I don't know how to do that.
> Various pages stated only existing apt-servers or creating packages
> (maintainer manuals)
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Bernie
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Earl F Hampton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 1:05 PM
> Subject: Re: apt-server
>
> > On Monday 19 March 2001 03:57, Bernhard Wesely wrote:
> >
> > dpkg -i packagename
> >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > A friend of mine built some debian-packages, and I now try to put them
> at
> > > an apt-server for easy installing the packages at my work.
> > > I looked at the Debian-Hompage, but didn't find anything.
> > >
> > > Has anyone a hint, where I can start my search again?
> > >
> > > Thank in advance,
> > > Bernie
> >
> >
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Re: Can't rescue, read-only filesystem

2001-03-19 Thread kmself
on Mon, Mar 19, 2001 at 01:47:55PM -0800, Morgan Fletcher ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:
> kmself@ix.netcom.com writes:
> > Boot a standalone floppy or CDR GNU/Linux system and examine your HD.
> > I'd recommend Tom's Root Boot if you're running a 2.1.x kernel (TRB
> > doesn't handle some instances of 2.2.x ext2 filesystems), or the
> > LinuxCare Bootable Business Card (BBC), which uses a 2.2.x kernel.
> > 
> > I suspect HD damage, which may prevent you from accessing your HD and/or
> > a Linux kernel located on it.
> 
> Wouldn't HD damage affect execution before the reboot? System has been
> up all through the weekend, and I had rebooted and gone through LILO
> four days ago. 
> 
> I think it has something to do with the way the rescue disk is
> starting the system. Not sure, however.
> 
> The boot sequence goes quite a way, until it gets to loading this
> module. I'm inclined to think the disk is OK.

If you're unable to boot the system from onboard images, booting from an
external image is recommended.  Simple fact is that if you cannot boot
the system you have no way of determining whether or not the HD is
trashed or not.

Boot a rescue disk (again, BBS, TRB, or similar), and sniff around.

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Re: Problem with yesterday's woody update

2001-03-19 Thread kmself
on Mon, Mar 19, 2001 at 05:24:17PM +, Colin Watson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:
> Bob Nielsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Not being conversant in perl, can someone tell me what to do about the
> >following error I received after the latest woody updates:

<...>

> I suspect testing is broken (new perl, old debconf). Wait for a newer
> debconf to get in, or install the debconf from unstable.
^
This is the fix I used, and recommended by Joey Hess.

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Re: Reboot only w/ mouse.

2001-03-19 Thread Joey Hess
Hall Stevenson wrote:
> Actually, assuming he's looking at a console prompt or in an xterm, you
> could probably find the right letters in the various text that's
> visible.

And if they're not, you can try to run ls, or w, or some other
commands, and once you find the letters a, s, c, and i, you're home free
(ascii).

-- 
see shy jo, who'd had to do this far too many times



audio cd's

2001-03-19 Thread John Griffiths
Hi guys, apologies to those who;ve heard it all before...

I used cd paranoia to extract a bunch of wav's from an audio cd...

i now want to put them back onto another cd so i can play it on a stereo

i used

#cdrecord dev=0,0,0 speed=4 -v -dao -eject defpregap=1 -audio *.wav

which looked fine, and plays on my computer, only not on my stereo (which says 
"No Disc").. i HAVE read the manual but would appreciate any pointers you guys 
might have.

Regards

John



kde virus-like menu masher

2001-03-19 Thread Nick Croft

Debianites,

Half the attraction of debian is the menu-update system which is activated 
by apt-get or relatives.

I've been happily working away and using either WindowMaker Afterstep or E, 
mainly WindowMaker. On another machine I installed kde (kdebase_4%3a2.0.1-4) 
last December, and had no probs. Liked konqueror.

Yesterday I put (on the main machine) kdebase 4:2.1.0.1-5 and other k packages. 

I found it to be very intrusive, rather like a M$ product. It took over my 
desktop immediately without giving me the option of changing to it. Then it 
rewrote my menus, apparently overriding the menu-update script, such that only 
k-* programs appeared in the menus. I restarted X back into WindowMaker and 
found I only had half a dozen options in the menu. I apt-got something to 
activate 
the menu-update thingy, (which I thought was supposed to find everything with a 
menu file) but still only had the k-approved items and the new one.

Since then I've purged all kstuff, but the menus are no better.

I've been rewriting /etc/X11/WindowMaker/menu.hook _manually_, but I need to 
keep a copy of it because any further installs wipe it out and substitute the 
kversion of the menus.

I've looked at the man pages for update-menus and menufile and read the 
/usr/doc/menu/html tutorial, but can't find the answer. Something seems to be 
overriding the system.

I guess I can apt-get something, then use 'find' to see what's been moodified 
in the last 2 minutes and check that way.

Sorry for the long ramble.

Give kde the miss.

Nick




Can't reach ipchains from 2.4

2001-03-19 Thread Jonathan Markevich
I'm trying to compile in ipchains emulation support in kernel 2.4, but make
xconfig has it greyed out and I have no idea what I need to enable to get to
it.  Can someone point me in the right direction?

Thanks.
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Re: Wvdial - How do you surf without being root?

2001-03-19 Thread Rich Renomeron
On Mon, 19 Mar 2001, Usuario Universo Online wrote:

>   Wvdial can only be set to be run as root, isn't that right?
>   If it isn't so, how should you set permission to run it
> without being root?

I would suggest installing the sudo package.  Using sudo, you can allow
certain users access to certain commands with root privileges.  Once set
up, you can issue the command "sudo wvdial ..." and you'll be up and
running without worrying about setuid problems and device file
permissions.

Rich

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Re: lm-sensors and 2.4 kernels

2001-03-19 Thread Lee Elliott
Jens Gecius wrote:
> 
> Lee Elliott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > Just a quick note to say I just downloaded the latest lm-sensors source
> > and still get the same problem during patch generation:
> >
> >   mkpatch/mkpatch.pl . /usr/src/linux > /tmp/sensors-patch
> >
> > results in
> >
> >   "Automatic patch generation for 'drivers-Makefile' failed"
> >   "Contact the authors please! at mkpatch/mkpatch.pl line 104"
> >
> > I've e-mailed the contact address given in the docs.
> 
> Actually, I chose not to patch the kernel but to compile the
> standalone modules. That works just fine here.
> 
Hello Jens,

I got this from the authors:

"> 
> Could you try it with the latest kernel and lm-sensors from CVS?
> There is a chance that this was already solved.

Also please make sure you (or even your distribution) have applied no 
other patches; mkpatch typically only works on unpatched, vanilla
kernels."

I'll try the suggestions sometime in the next few days or so - bit short
of time right now.

LeeE



Re: Flash Player ?

2001-03-19 Thread Kevin C . Krinke
IMHO, when dealing with the Flash plugin, the optimal method is to go to 
macromedia.com and download the flash_linux.tar.gz then extract it to a tmp dir 
and move the *.class and *.so files
(there should only be two file i believe) into your /usr/lib/netscape/plugins 
(or /usr/local/netscape/plugins as the case may be). Re-open netscape and visit 
a flash site to test (for example : http://www.odslinux.com/odslinux.swf ).

Although there are a few open source derivatives, they do not comply with the 
latest versions of flash. So if you go that route you will have possibly 
unpredictable results.

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Re: Can't rescue, read-only filesystem

2001-03-19 Thread Oliver Elphick
Morgan Fletcher wrote:
  >I am running "testing", my system is up-to-date, except that I haven't
  >let apt-get remove the 102 packages it recently wants to remove.
  >
  >I believe I saw lilo get updated this weekend, during 'apt-get update
  >&& apt-get upgrade'. This morning I rebooted and got "LI". (Lilo
  >normally let's me boot into win2k or debian "testing".)
  >
  >I pulled out an old potato-era rescue disk, entered "rescue
  >root=/dev/hda3" at the "rescue:" prompt and everything went okay until
  >it got stuck in an endless loop, repeating the same messages over and
  >over:
  >
  >  insmod: /lib/modules/2.2.17/misc/unix.o: insmod net-pf-1 failed
  >  insmod: /lib/modules/2.2.17/misc/unix.o: cannot create /var/log/ksymoops/2
  >00010319 Read-only file system
  >
  >I don't know what's going on. Advice?

The root partition is mounted read-only to start with.  You need to
load a kernel module to finish booting, but it looks as though the rescue kernel
doesn't match the modules on your hard disk.

It looks as if you may have overwritten your kernel-image package.  The
LI message means that lilo couldn't find the kernel where it is configured
to look for it.

If that is correct, the simplest way to deal with it is:

Boot from the floppy:

  boot: rescue root=/dev/hda3 init=/bin/sh

This will put you straight into a shell, with no other utilities running.

  # /sbin/lilo

This should reinstall lilo so that you can boot from the hard disk.

Then: 

  # sync
  # reboot



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FW: A fact & a problem

2001-03-19 Thread David Carlile
Oops! I typo'd the name of the mod. It's rtl8139.o

-Original Message-
From: David Carlile [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 2:09 PM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: FW: A fact & a problem


Hey Bob,

It sounds like we are trying to install the same module. I have the same
kernel build as you (2.2.18pre21) if I'm not mistaken. Check the following
path:

/lib/modules/2.2.18pre21/net/rtl1839.o

if it's there, try

insmod /lib/modules/2.2.18pre21/net/rtl1839.o

Let me know if that works for you because I get an error from insmod when I
try it, but it may work for you.

-Original Message-
From: Bob Nielsen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 10:55 AM
To: Victor
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: A fact & a problem


If that modules wasn't compiled in the default debian kernel, you have
two choices, either recompile your kernel or compile the module.  If
you install the 'kernel-package' Debian package, you can use it to
create a .deb package for either approach.  You will also need to
install the kernel-source package for your kernel version and the gcc
compiler (also bin86 if you have i386 hardware).  Read the documents
that will be installed in /usr/share/doc/kernel-package and also the
Kernel-HOWTO (in the doc-linux-text package).  These should answer your
concerns.

Bob

On Mon, Mar 19, 2001 at 05:42:21PM +, Victor wrote:
> Sorry for my being so insistent but HOW I can do it?
> Vittorio
>
> On Monday 19 March 2001 16:35, Norman Schmidt wrote:
> > Hi!
> >
> > I have more than one realtek card in my computer (Debian 2.2r2 potato).
> >
> > While installing Debian, you have to load the realtek module for the
> > card. Later, I have compiled my own kernels (so far 2.2.17 and 2.2.18)
> > with the realtek driver compiled into it (monolithic). No problems
> > whatsoever.
> > As sources for that I took the original ones from ftp.kernel.org and
> > didn´t do it the debian way.
> >
> > This is imho totally inependent of the distribution, since the realtek
> > code is in the unpatched kernel source.
> >
> > Hope this helps, Norman.
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:
> > > Yeah Sean,
> > > I know, but unfortunately in the 2.2.18pre21 potato kernel there's no
> > > support for Realtek NICs whilst there is even in the older versions in
> > > RedHat & Suse. Again, my question is: how can I overcome the snag and
> > > compile the source module rltk3189.c in the best way under potato?
> > > Vittorio
>
>
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Debian and Trident 9385 VGA Card

2001-03-19 Thread Greene, Sam
I'm trying to install Debian on my laptop.  My card is listed at
http://www.xfree86.org/cardlist.html
as supported.  Is a generic driver the only thing that is offered?  The best
resolution I can get is
640x480.  I configure it for 800x600 and 16 bit color with no luck.

Sam



FW: A fact & a problem

2001-03-19 Thread David Carlile
Hey Bob,

It sounds like we are trying to install the same module. I have the same
kernel build as you (2.2.18pre21) if I'm not mistaken. Check the following
path:

/lib/modules/2.2.18pre21/net/rtl1839.o

if it's there, try

insmod /lib/modules/2.2.18pre21/net/rtl1839.o

Let me know if that works for you because I get an error from insmod when I
try it, but it may work for you.

-Original Message-
From: Bob Nielsen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 10:55 AM
To: Victor
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: A fact & a problem


If that modules wasn't compiled in the default debian kernel, you have
two choices, either recompile your kernel or compile the module.  If
you install the 'kernel-package' Debian package, you can use it to
create a .deb package for either approach.  You will also need to
install the kernel-source package for your kernel version and the gcc
compiler (also bin86 if you have i386 hardware).  Read the documents
that will be installed in /usr/share/doc/kernel-package and also the
Kernel-HOWTO (in the doc-linux-text package).  These should answer your
concerns.

Bob

On Mon, Mar 19, 2001 at 05:42:21PM +, Victor wrote:
> Sorry for my being so insistent but HOW I can do it?
> Vittorio
>
> On Monday 19 March 2001 16:35, Norman Schmidt wrote:
> > Hi!
> >
> > I have more than one realtek card in my computer (Debian 2.2r2 potato).
> >
> > While installing Debian, you have to load the realtek module for the
> > card. Later, I have compiled my own kernels (so far 2.2.17 and 2.2.18)
> > with the realtek driver compiled into it (monolithic). No problems
> > whatsoever.
> > As sources for that I took the original ones from ftp.kernel.org and
> > didn´t do it the debian way.
> >
> > This is imho totally inependent of the distribution, since the realtek
> > code is in the unpatched kernel source.
> >
> > Hope this helps, Norman.
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:
> > > Yeah Sean,
> > > I know, but unfortunately in the 2.2.18pre21 potato kernel there's no
> > > support for Realtek NICs whilst there is even in the older versions in
> > > RedHat & Suse. Again, my question is: how can I overcome the snag and
> > > compile the source module rltk3189.c in the best way under potato?
> > > Vittorio
>
>
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Re: Pakages in a very bad inconsistent state

2001-03-19 Thread Corwin Grey
> > 'chattr - /sbin/lsmod' listing the appropriate attributes
> > which are shows by lsattr.  I'm guessing it is set +i, +u or possibly
> > +a.
> If it would be so, would that really be a problem for root-apps?
> Isn't the user root a Superuser so that he's able to do everything even
> damaging the system? I think so!

Not if the attributes are set. If +i is set, the file is IMMUTABLE, even
by root until the attibute is removed.


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they would buy Microsoft. That's not exactly a ringing endorsement."
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Re: Can't rescue, read-only filesystem

2001-03-19 Thread Morgan Fletcher
kmself@ix.netcom.com writes:
> Boot a standalone floppy or CDR GNU/Linux system and examine your HD.
> I'd recommend Tom's Root Boot if you're running a 2.1.x kernel (TRB
> doesn't handle some instances of 2.2.x ext2 filesystems), or the
> LinuxCare Bootable Business Card (BBC), which uses a 2.2.x kernel.
> 
> I suspect HD damage, which may prevent you from accessing your HD and/or
> a Linux kernel located on it.

Wouldn't HD damage affect execution before the reboot? System has been
up all through the weekend, and I had rebooted and gone through LILO
four days ago. 

I think it has something to do with the way the rescue disk is
starting the system. Not sure, however.

The boot sequence goes quite a way, until it gets to loading this
module. I'm inclined to think the disk is OK.

morgan



Re: Why is /etc/inted.conf so empty?

2001-03-19 Thread kmself
on Sun, Mar 18, 2001 at 10:36:16PM -0500, Stan Brown ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Why are so few services listed in /etc/inted.conf? Why are the ones
> that are turned off by default not even thre as comments?

Supply a directory listing.  Note the typo in your subject.

Debian doesn't install a boatload of crud services to run by default,
you have to supply the rope yourself.  If you want a service, install
the appropriate package.

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Re: A fact & a problem

2001-03-19 Thread Moritz Schulte
[EMAIL PROTECTED] () writes:

> Is there anyone out there able to explain how come, installing
> Debian potato on my desktop, Debian is unable to find my ethernet
> Realtek 8139 PCI card while even Red Hat 6.0 was able to?

What do you mean with "is unable to find"? Debian doesn't have tools,
which automatically install your hardware, yet. Or do you mean the
driver, rtl8139 can't find the card?

> I need to compile the module for the Realtek ethernet card which I
> downloaded from a linux site (rltk8139.c).

You mean rtl8139.c, right? Why can't you use the included rtl839
driver?

moritz
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Re: bash segfaulting and not being able to log in

2001-03-19 Thread kmself
on Mon, Mar 19, 2001 at 09:30:28AM -0500, Anthony Fox ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> kmself@ix.netcom.com writes:
> 
> > on Sun, Mar 18, 2001 at 09:44:51PM -0500, Anthony Fox ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
> > wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > > 
> > > I have two questions:

<...>

> > > 2. I log in at the console, /etc/motd is printed, and then I am
> > > logged out.  I have seen this problem on a box where home
> > > directories where NFS mounted and the NFS mount did not exist.  My
> > > particular box does not have home directories mounted, but my
> > > partition table looks like:
> > 
> > Does this happen when logging in as a regular user, as root, either?
> 
> Both.  Like the bash problem, it happens half the time and half the
> time my box works just fine.  That is why I think the problems are
> related.
> 
> > Does /etc/nologin exist?
> > 
> > Check your .bash_profile and .bashrc files, as well as any
> > /etc/bashrc and /etc/profile files.  You might try renaming these
> > temporarily.
> 
> I have checked the startup scripts, there is no problem with them.
> /etc/nologin does not exist.  Plus, I can log in just fine half the
> time.

What happens if you change your user shell?  Say, csh, sash, or zsh?

Is anything else not working properly?  This is weird behavior, and
appears to be inconsistant over time, and effects different
functionality.  I'd suspect a hardware issue.

Run a memory test and/or CPU test.  Kernel compile is useful  SIG11
errors tend to indicate problems.

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IDE burning

2001-03-19 Thread Frédéric de Villamil
Hello,
I'm using an IDE mitsumi cr-480te cd burner.
I've recompiled my kernel with scsi generic, scsi emulation and scsi cdrom 
support in the kernel (2.2.17 on potato)
When I'm trying to burn using cdrecord or xcdroast (that's the same =), no 
problem to configure; the cd is burnt, but the data is not transfered. and I 
have an error message. Have I forgotten to do something, or is there a module 
I haven't load?
Burning is the last thing I miss to migrate to a 100% GNU/linux debian 
machine, so help me please =)
frederic



Re: any problem with security. and non-us.debian.org?

2001-03-19 Thread kmself
on Sat, Mar 17, 2001 at 09:44:44AM +0100, G.Angely ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Since friday 16 in the morning, the ftp servers non-us.debian.org and
> security.debian.org are not accessible.
> 
> There is a reply to a ping (same address: 132.229.131.40), but no access
> for ftp ("could not chdir to .../~/").
> 
> I send this mail to the user list; is there a more appropiate mail
> address for such problems?

Several people mentioned problems reaching security on list last week.
Check archives.

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Re: Installing a new machine with a selected list of package ...

2001-03-19 Thread kmself
on Thu, Mar 15, 2001 at 06:36:19PM +0100, Bruno BEAUFILS ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:
> 
> I would like to install my new laptop with the same packages as those
> installed on my desktop (which is a sid debian).
> 
> So I installed a basic potato debian without selecting any packages, then 
> after
> the first reboot I mount (via NFS) a directory where I stored a debian ftp
> site mirror plus some specific packages (a home made kernel (build with
> kernel-package) and such packages (alsa-modules, pcmcia-modules)).
> 
> I configure apt such that it looks for package on this nfs mounted directory.
> 
> I then installed my own packages (kernel, pcmcia, etc.) reboot the system,
> then I do on my desktop
> 
> dpkg --get-selections > mylist
> 
> and on my laptop
> 
> cat mylist | dpkg --set-selections 
> 
> I have then done a :
> 
> dselect install

I believe what you want to do is 'apt-get update' rather than run
deselect at this point.

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Re: pam issuing cron login messages to every consol WHY!

2001-03-19 Thread kmself
on Mon, Mar 19, 2001 at 10:32:27AM -0600, John Foster ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> I have upgreaded to testing and have now got pam sending login messages
> to every consol screen for every cron login. What is with this? How do I
> get rid of it? It used to mail them to root.

Redirect your syslog output.  I tend to park mine on VT 12.  See
appropriate manpages (syslog, ksyslogd) for info.

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Re: Can't rescue, read-only filesystem

2001-03-19 Thread kmself
on Mon, Mar 19, 2001 at 10:33:21AM -0800, Morgan Fletcher ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:
> I am running "testing", my system is up-to-date, except that I haven't
> let apt-get remove the 102 packages it recently wants to remove.
> 
> I believe I saw lilo get updated this weekend, during 'apt-get update
> && apt-get upgrade'. This morning I rebooted and got "LI". (Lilo
> normally let's me boot into win2k or debian "testing".)
> 
> I pulled out an old potato-era rescue disk, entered "rescue
> root=/dev/hda3" at the "rescue:" prompt and everything went okay until
> it got stuck in an endless loop, repeating the same messages over and
> over:
> 
>   insmod: /lib/modules/2.2.17/misc/unix.o: insmod net-pf-1 failed
>   insmod: /lib/modules/2.2.17/misc/unix.o: cannot create 
> /var/log/ksymoops/200010319 Read-only file system
> 
> I don't know what's going on. Advice?

Boot a standalone floppy or CDR GNU/Linux system and examine your HD.
I'd recommend Tom's Root Boot if you're running a 2.1.x kernel (TRB
doesn't handle some instances of 2.2.x ext2 filesystems), or the
LinuxCare Bootable Business Card (BBC), which uses a 2.2.x kernel.

I suspect HD damage, which may prevent you from accessing your HD and/or
a Linux kernel located on it.

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Re: migrating a redhat box to dpkg/apt-get?

2001-03-19 Thread kmself
on Mon, Mar 19, 2001 at 09:20:00AM -0800, Krzys Majewski ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:
> Anyone taught a redhat box to use .deb packages instead of .rpm's? 
> I'm helping administer 100+ redhat boxes, and investigating the
> possibility of  using dpkg/apt-get,  rather than rpm,  for propagating
> local customizations.  Since the redhat file  structure would probably
> need to be preserved, I'm  thinking of a mechanism which would upgrade
> existing  off-the-shelf redhat  packages by  converting them  to .debs
> first. The  other possibility  would be to  use rpm  for off-the-shelf
> packages, and  dpkg/apt-get for  custom ones. Anyone  know if  the two
> package mechanisms can coexist?  

The Debian filesystem is a base component of the Debian distribution.
You're going to fail this dependency if you don't adopt it.

What about the RH filesystem needs to be preserved?

IMO it's easier to run a Debian box and install RPMs on it via alien
than vice versa.  Alien is your OTS RPM converter, BTW.

Debian also offers 'stow' as a mechanism for managing locally installed
packages, though I haven't used it.

Overall, Debian package management trumps RH.  Again, IMO.

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How to set up an ODBC manager?

2001-03-19 Thread Richard C. Cobbe
Greetings, all.

I'm trying to play around with writing a small ODBC client program, just to
learn how the technology works.  Rather unfortunately, I'm highly unclear
on how to set up all of the pieces involved.  I've installed the following
packages on my Potato system:

odbc-postgresql
postgresql
postgresql-client
postgresql-dev
postgresql-doc
postgresql-slink
libiodbc2
libiodbc2-dev

And I'm trying to use the SrPersist client which fits into DrScheme
(http://www.cs.rice.edu/CS/PLT/packages/srpersist/).

I don't know how to hook all these pieces together, though.  I know I need
a driver manager; I had thought that libiodbc2 provided this.  However, my
impression (possibly incorrect) was that a driver manager is a daemon,
rather than just a shared library, and libiodbc2 includes only a .so.  Am I
missing a package?

The postgres docs on ODBC connectivity seem to assume a basic knowledge of
ODBC.  For instance, in discussing ~/.odbc.ini,

The third required section is [ODBC] which must contain the InstallDir
keyword and which may contain other options.

[ODBC]
InstallDir = /opt/applix/axdata/axshlib

It provides, however, no further details as to what the InstallDir option
means, what its value should be, or what the other options for this section
are.  Neither does the libiodbc documentation explain any of this.

Can anyone point me to some basic documentation for setting up an ODBC
client and server on a Debian machine?  I'd prefer online content, but I'm
willing to purchase a book if I have to.

I'm currently using PostgreSQL, and I'd prefer to stick with that.  I could
switch to another backend like MySQL, though, if that becomes necessary.

Thanks in advance,

Richard



Re: Pakages in a very bad inconsistent state

2001-03-19 Thread Willi Dyck
On Mon, Mar 19, 2001 at 12:53:38PM -0800, Corwin Grey wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, Mar 19, 2001 at 09:20:09PM +0100, Willi Dyck wrote:
> 
> > > unable to install new version of `./sbin/lsmod': Operation not 
> > > permitted
> 
> 
> Try 'lsattr /sbin/lsmod' and if it shows any attributes set then do
> 'chattr - /sbin/lsmod' listing the appropriate attributes
> which are shows by lsattr.  I'm guessing it is set +i, +u or possibly
> +a.
If it would be so, would that really be a problem for root-apps?
Isn't the user root a Superuser so that he's able to do everything even
damaging the system? I think so!

> 
> 
> Corwin Grey
> 
> "What does this tell me?  That if Microsoft were the last software
> company left in the world, 13% of the US population would be scouring
> garage sales & Goodwill for old TRS-80s, CPM machines & Apple ]['s before
> they would buy Microsoft. That's not exactly a ringing endorsement."
> -- Seen on Slashdot
> 
> 
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Re: pdf editor ?

2001-03-19 Thread Hall Stevenson
> > Actually, Acrobat DOES let one edit and manipulate (unlocked)
> > pdf files. Not sure about changing fonts or replacing images,
> > but a certain amount of tweaking

The way I understand PDF is that it's a "universal" viewing and printing
format, not an editable one. The viewer is free and available for many
different platforms.

If I have a MS Word document that I wanted to send you to *read*, I can
convert it to PDF and you'll see literally the exact document that I
created. Matter of fact, once printed, I'll bet no one can tell which is
the original and which is PDF. I do the same with AutoCAD drawings for
people who just want to view or print them.

Ultimately, if you want to edit anything, you need the original. I don't
think you can even create a PDF "from scratch" or from nothing. You have
to start with another file.


Regards
Hall



Re: Pakages in a very bad inconsistent state

2001-03-19 Thread Willi Dyck
Output of 'lsattr /sbin/lsmod':
 /sbin/lsmod

Output of 'dpkg --purge modutils':
dpkg: error processing modutils (--purge):
Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should
reinstall it before attempting a removal.

Still the same problem :-(


On Mon, Mar 19, 2001 at 12:53:38PM -0800, Corwin Grey wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, Mar 19, 2001 at 09:20:09PM +0100, Willi Dyck wrote:
> 
> > > unable to install new version of `./sbin/lsmod': Operation not 
> > > permitted
> 
> 
> Try 'lsattr /sbin/lsmod' and if it shows any attributes set then do
> 'chattr - /sbin/lsmod' listing the appropriate attributes
> which are shows by lsattr.  I'm guessing it is set +i, +u or possibly
> +a.
> 
> 
> Corwin Grey
> 
> "What does this tell me?  That if Microsoft were the last software
> company left in the world, 13% of the US population would be scouring
> garage sales & Goodwill for old TRS-80s, CPM machines & Apple ]['s before
> they would buy Microsoft. That's not exactly a ringing endorsement."
> -- Seen on Slashdot
> 
> 
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Re: xserver-xfree86 (4.0.2-7) freezing during install (SOLVED)

2001-03-19 Thread Charles Lewis
Not sure why, but got the bright idea to kill gpm and try again. Ta-da!
Apparently gpm conflicts with mdetect.

I ran dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 and like Jimmy was puzzled that
XF86Config-4 was not generated. Out of whim (because I tried it a few months
ago and it worked) I ran dexconf (another ta-da) and it generated an
XF86Config-4 with all the settings that I had specified when I ran
dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86.

Ahhh...the pleasures of the constantly moving landscape of Linux. :)

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> From: Charles Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 11:14:05 -0800
> To: debian-user 
> Subject: Re: xserver-xfree86 (4.0.2-7) freezing during install
> Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Resent-Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 11:21:46 -0600
> 
> OK, purged all traces of X and tried again (by select
> task-x-window-system-core)...
> 
> This time I discovered that the install seems to be hanging on mdetect -x.
> It apparently is in a loop that keeps resubmitting the process.
> 
> I looked at xserver-xfree86.config and found where it was calling mdetect
> with MDETECT_OUTPUT=$(mdetect -x). Of course I'm a novice, but I tried doing
> the same thing manually and then echo $MDETECT_OUTPUT. It displayed a blank
> line and a man mdetect revealed that a successful detection should have
> returned a 0.
> 
> I've pretty much exhausted my newbie capabilities and gpm is working fine,
> so I'm not sure where to go next.
> 
> -- 
> Charles Lewis
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 817-556-4720
> 
> 
>> From: Jimmy Richards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Date: 16 Mar 2001 14:02:55 -0700
>> To: Charles Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
>> Subject: Re: xserver-xfree86 (4.0.2-7) freezing during install
>> 
>> Hello Charles,
>> 
>> You can do the command 'XFree86 --config' to get it to probe hardware
>> and create a generic XF86Config-4 file.
>> I do not know why the command 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86' does
>> not seem to be creating an XF86Config-4
>> file. I think that command should normally be the way to create your X
>> files for debian, but it seems to be broken, at least for me.
>> I looked on the http://bugs.debian.org/ and could not tell from the
>> descriptions if someone had entered a bug report on
>> that specific problem or not, so I may look them over again and perhaps
>> submit a bug on it. I even created an /etc/X11/X file
>> and and XF86Config-4 file in there. When I ran that command it asked me
>> if I wanted them to be overwritten. I said yes. It did
>> not make/overwrite the X and XF86Config files. I think it is definitely
>> a bug. I had to do the  XFree86 --config and manually
>> edit it the XF86Config-4 file it made to make it that worked for my
>> Voodoo3 2000.
>> 
>> Anyone else having this problem? Just curious
>> 
>> 
>> Jimmy Richards
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 16 Mar 2001 12:41:41 -0800, Charles Lewis wrote:
>>> Trying to install X on a brand new sid box. Selected
>>> task-x-window-system-core (and all its dependencies
>>> and it freezes at:
>>> 
>>> Setting up xserver-xfree86 (4.0.27)...
>>> 
>>> I have a Rage 128 card...the non-free xserver-rage128 installs successfully,
>>> except that I can't figure out how to generate XF86Config-4 since none of
>>> the usual utilities seem to be present or have dependencies on
>>> xserver-xfree86.
>>> 
>>> Any ideas?
>>> 
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Re: pdf editor ?

2001-03-19 Thread John Griffiths
>Actually, Acrobat DOES let one edit and manipulate (unlocked) pdf
>files. Not sure about changing fonts or replacing images, but a
>certain amount of tweaking
>
>judith

lets be careful with words.. the program Acrobat "Exchange" does have a lot of 
feature creep. But its no substitute to letting you move the words around the 
page.. if editting is what you are after.

pdf though is really at the end of the day a display format, not an editting 
one. And its in being a display format that it excels.

Now if we could get a WYSIWYG Postscript editor for linux we'd really have 
something kickass (and would do what I think you are trying to do) Pdf is, when 
all is said and done, a postscript compression and display format. Also ps2pdf 
is pretty disapointing in comparison to acrobat distiller, mainly because of 
the font support and acrobat's freedom to use the encumbered LZW compression 
algorithm.



Re: Pakages in a very bad inconsistent state

2001-03-19 Thread Corwin Grey

> On Mon, Mar 19, 2001 at 09:20:09PM +0100, Willi Dyck wrote:

> > unable to install new version of `./sbin/lsmod': Operation not permitted


Try 'lsattr /sbin/lsmod' and if it shows any attributes set then do
'chattr - /sbin/lsmod' listing the appropriate attributes
which are shows by lsattr.  I'm guessing it is set +i, +u or possibly
+a.


Corwin Grey

"What does this tell me?  That if Microsoft were the last software
company left in the world, 13% of the US population would be scouring
garage sales & Goodwill for old TRS-80s, CPM machines & Apple ]['s before
they would buy Microsoft. That's not exactly a ringing endorsement."
-- Seen on Slashdot



Re: NIC identification

2001-03-19 Thread Dave Sherohman
On Mon, Mar 19, 2001 at 11:43:47AM -0600, Keith G. Murphy wrote:
> I concur, and add that if it just *happens* to be an Optiplex GX1, it's
> probably a 3Com 3c905B-TX.  There is a Linux driver for that, 3c59x by
> name.

Optiplex GX100.  According to one of the Dell discussion forums, it's
a 3c920, which is supposed to be fully compatible with the 3c905c.
I'm guessing that either it's a bad NIC or (much more likely) the CD
I'm using is a bit too old, as the 3c59x driver refuses to load for me.

Time to make some floppies and see if the current driver likes it...

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Re: Pakages in a very bad inconsistent state

2001-03-19 Thread Wes Wannemacher
On Mon, Mar 19, 2001 at 09:20:09PM +0100, Willi Dyck wrote:
> Hi group,
> 
> I have several problems installing the latest version of modutils.
> 
> 1.) Output of 'apt-get install modutils':
> Preparing to replace modutils 2.3.11-13.1 
> (using.../modutils_2.4.2-0.bunk_i386.deb) ...
> Removing obsoleted files:
> Unpacking replacement modutils ...
> dpkg: error processing 
> /var/cache/apt/archives/modutils_2.4.2-0.bunk_i386.deb (--unpack):
> unable to install new version of `./sbin/lsmod': Operation not permitted
> dpkg: error while cleaning up: unable to restore backup version of 
> `/sbin/lsmod': Operation not
> permitted
> dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
> Errors were encountered while processing:
> /var/cache/apt/archives/modutils_2.4.2-0.bunk_i386.deb
> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
> 
> 2.) 'apt-get remove modutils' to install it from scratch, won't work,
> because of the inconsistence in [1]. The same for 'apt-get install 
> modutils
> --reinstall'.
> 
> 3.) What kind of "Operation not permitted" is ment in [1]?
> read/write/execute? 
> $ ls -al /sbin/lsmod:
> l-ws-ws--x1 root root6 Dec 10 22:18 /sbin/lsmod
> -> insmod
> Several friends of mine have the same file-permissions for that
> file. Changing that permissions to whatever I want, does not solve
> this problem.
> 
> Waiting hopefully for any suggestions ;-)
> 

did you try `dpkg --purge modutils`. What are the results of this?

->W

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Pakages in a very bad inconsistent state

2001-03-19 Thread Willi Dyck
Hi group,

I have several problems installing the latest version of modutils.

1.) Output of 'apt-get install modutils':
Preparing to replace modutils 2.3.11-13.1 
(using.../modutils_2.4.2-0.bunk_i386.deb) ...
Removing obsoleted files:
Unpacking replacement modutils ...
dpkg: error processing 
/var/cache/apt/archives/modutils_2.4.2-0.bunk_i386.deb (--unpack):
unable to install new version of `./sbin/lsmod': Operation not permitted
dpkg: error while cleaning up: unable to restore backup version of 
`/sbin/lsmod': Operation not
permitted
dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
Errors were encountered while processing:
/var/cache/apt/archives/modutils_2.4.2-0.bunk_i386.deb
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)

2.) 'apt-get remove modutils' to install it from scratch, won't work,
because of the inconsistence in [1]. The same for 'apt-get install modutils
--reinstall'.

3.) What kind of "Operation not permitted" is ment in [1]?
read/write/execute? 
$ ls -al /sbin/lsmod:
l-ws-ws--x1 root root6 Dec 10 22:18 /sbin/lsmod
-> insmod
Several friends of mine have the same file-permissions for that
file. Changing that permissions to whatever I want, does not solve
this problem.

Waiting hopefully for any suggestions ;-)

MfG/Regards, Willi Dyck

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Re: Flash Player ?

2001-03-19 Thread Gavin Hamill
On Mon, 19 Mar 2001, Allan M. Wind wrote:

> > then do apt-get update, and apt-get install flashplayer-nonfree
> 
> Looks like they rename a dir and didn't include a readme, so the
> installer fails.

Gah :/ It's not a package I've used myself... I use that source because
the guy also packaged the mp3 encoder 'lame' .. but I happened to remember
he does the flash player, too.. 

It might be worth dropping him a note of the error then :) I'm sure he'll
have an address on http://forcix.cx/

Kind regards,

Gavin.




Exim, mutt and Eudora-like personalities

2001-03-19 Thread Ryan Claycamp
About five months ago, I asked how to set-up Eudora-like multiple
personalities with Mutt and Exim.  I received some good help, but
still couldn't get it to work.  People explained how to use "my_hdr
From:", set use_from, and set envelope_from.  I kept trying to get it
to work, but nothing seemed to help.  I would put it off for weeks,
come back to it and try something new, repeat.  Last week I finally
got it to work and thought I would post it to the list for the
archives.

It seems that I had mutt configured right and the trouble was with
Exim.  In .muttrc, "set envelope_from" uses MTA -f From: Header.  Exim
will only allow people on a list to use the -f option.  I added myself
to the list of trusted users and my multiple personalities work.  I
now set-up some macros to change the from line based on the address I
want to use.  Now Exim routes my messages to the right smarthost based
on the address I want to use.

Ryan
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So I jumped the fence and BLAM!



Re: Hdparm and 2.4 kernel

2001-03-19 Thread Mario Olimpio de Menezes
On Mon, 19 Mar 2001, Phil Brutsche wrote:

>
> Yes you will but you still don't need hdparm to set DMA mode.
>
> Kernel 2.4 is *very* good at doing that automatically, provided you have
> your kernel compiled right.

I had my kernel compiled with DMA support, passed some command line
parameters throug lilo.conf and DMA was not set by kernel; I did it by
"hand (hdparm)".

I'm using a Dell OptiPlex GX110 with i810 chipset and a Maxtor 20GB
UDMA.


[]s
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IPEN-CNEN/SP is the Lord's purpose that prevails"
http://curiango.ipen.br/~mario Prov. 19.21



fb console weirdness

2001-03-19 Thread Dimitri Maziuk
For some reason keymaps on vc > 3 are slightly broken here, e.g. mutt doesn't
recognize arrow keys, function keys codes sent to mc over ssh/telnet are all
wrong... Anyone else is seeing this? If it's not just me, anyone has a fix?
It's a framebuffer console (riva tnt) compiled into the kernel (2.4.2).

tia
Dima
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change your mind later, run
-- magicfilter config script



FW: FW: D-Link DFE-530TX+ via-rhine.o module

2001-03-19 Thread David Carlile
I don't have a /proc/pci folder. This is a pretty bare machine that I built
just to use as a linux test box, so all I have in there is an AGP video card
and this PCI D-Link nic card. I haven't used the card under windows, so I
can't steal any IRQ info from there.

When I run lsmod, it lists:

nls_cp437   38801   (autoclean)
serial  19640   0   (autoclean)
unix11336   35  (autoclean)

I haven't had to do this much tweaking since I installed Windows 3.1... I'm
having flashbacks.

Where can I read up on diagnosing IO and IRQ parameter problems? (assuming
that is what the problem is)?

-Original Message-
From: D-Man [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 9:31 AM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: FW: D-Link DFE-530TX+ via-rhine.o module


On Mon, Mar 19, 2001 at 01:26:31AM -0800, David Carlile wrote:
| Thanks for the quick reply.
|
| I tried modconf and selected rtl8193. I didn't include any parameters. I
got
| an error message: "Device or resource busy. Hint: this error can be caused
| by incorrect module parameters, including invalid IO or irq parameters."
|
| Any ideas?

I think that browsing /proc/pci can give some information, but I
haven't tried that yet.  Have you used the card in windows?  What does
it report as the IRQ and IO addresses?

| BTW, I checked the card and the link light is on, which kind of suprises
me
| because I didn't think I had a driver loaded... Is it possible a driver
was

I would expect the link light to be on if you have the card plugged
into the service (or cable modem) because a link exists.  If you
unplug the card from the network the link light will go off.  This is
hardware independent of the software drivers.  It is a convenient way
to get information about which part of the card isn't working.  My
card (LinkSys) has  link, 100, duplex, and tx lights to indicate if a
 link (network) exists, the network is 100 Mbps, the network is full
 duplex, the card is transfering data right not.

-D


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Re: Getting rid of Control-M in a file?

2001-03-19 Thread Scott_Patterson





> How do I get rid of Control-M at the end of each line in a dos
> text file imported to Debian?

Haven't seen this posted yet:

tr -d "\r" < infile > outfile

It will delete CTRL-M throughout the file though, not just the end of each line.

Scott





[OT] http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2694630,00.html

2001-03-19 Thread Walter Tautz
a link that describes an implementation of SOAP ...there is 
also an article in the March issue of the Linux Journal...it
would seem to have something to do with applications serving
as envisioned by Microsoft in their .Net technology...
I am not entirely clear on the history but it is an open standard
adopted by w3c..





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