Re: Mutiple mail servers : REPOST

2001-10-17 Thread Osamu Aoki
> If you should dare to run sendmail on Debian box, you should know the
> answer to what you should to get what you want:  
> 
>  "Just set up vertual domain."
I meant to type:

If you should dare to run sendmail on a Debian box, you should know the
answer to what you asked:  

  "Just set up vertual domain."

Cheers :-)
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Setting up a server for XDMCP

2001-10-17 Thread Lars Jensen
How do I set up a server for XDMCP - do I need to do more than edit the
Xaccess file to allow any user to connect?

Thanks,
Lars.

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Re: Shall I upgrade to Woody?

2001-10-17 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi,
On Wed, Oct 17, 2001 at 09:22:06PM +0200, Sigue wrote:
> I know this is a bit to generic question, and it has been probably
> already discussed a 1000 times, but I'm fairly new, so please forgive
> me if I ask it nevertheless.

Yes.  If you ask this question here, answer is NO. (Half joking ...)

What ever other somewhat experienced people say, just do not "upgrade"
to unstable without _fair_ knowledge of Debian Package system.

I recommend you to start with upgrading to "testing" first.  With
tesing, you can have partial unstable on demand like:

# apt-get install libc6/unstable.

Read "man apt_preferences" in testing/woody.  Once you upgrade to apt in
woody, you can have pckages from unstable while having testing as your
system and can up/down-grade at your finger tip.  See my web page on my
sig where I wrote what I do :-)

> 1. Just checking. If I would want to upgrade to Woody, I'd need to add
> 'testing' or 'woody' to the sources.list, and then I'd need to issue
> 'apt-get dist-upgrade'?

Yes.  Use following to be safe side:
# apt-get -u dist-upgrade

> 2. Is it possible to somehow delete the package database, and make apt
> reread the official ones from debian.org?

# apt-get update

> 3. Is it possible to go back to the state in dselect before you
> started making selections?  I know that i theory 'R' should go back to
> the state before the current selection, but sometimes it seems to get
> stuck in a loop and alway brings me back the same dependency screen.
> Also if I made several selections, but then change my mind and want to
> go back to the state where it was when I've started dselect, is this
> possible?

Yes.  (Provided you keep woody at)

> Many,many thanks for your help in advance!  best regards, Balazs
No problem :-)
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php4-mysql package

2001-10-17 Thread Patrick Lane
Which packages do I need to install to be able to use mysql and php4 
together? There are more mysql packages than just php4-mysql I'm 
assuming. I currently have apache, php4, and php4-mysql installed.


--Patrick



GeForce3: X won't start!!!!

2001-10-17 Thread Aaron Traas
I just got a new GeForce3, and am having problems getting X working at
all. I'm using an AMD 760 based motherboard with a 1ghz Athlon and SB
Live!. 

I compiled a new kernel, and the NVIDIA kernel module and GLX package. I
modified XF86Config-4 as the instructions said. When I type "startx", I
get the cool NVIDIA splash screen, and then X just exits. The real
annoyance is there is NO error message given in the log.

I'm using Woody, the newest version (1541) of the NVIDIA drivers, and
the 2.4.9 kernel. This is really bugging me! Help!



Re: Apple Keyboard

2001-10-17 Thread Chanop Silpa-Anan
Once in debian galaxy, I heard Tomoo Nmura say

> Hello,
> 
> I'm using Sid i386.
> Currently, I choose Apple USB keyboard.
> When touching  key, Linux always goes to freeze.
> I reconfigure console-common and set keyboard as qwert, US america,
> Apple USB keyboard but the problem still exist.
> Any solutions ?

I have a very similar symtomps with Abit VP6 (via chipset) running two
PIII 933.

I compiled the basic usb driver into the kernel using the usb-uhci
driver. ctrl-s on console, also makes my box goes crazy, but the caps
lock is even worse, as it freezes the whole box. After I switch to
uhci JE driver, these symthoms go away.

My siggest is to try uhci JE driver.

Cheers,

Chanop
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GeForce3: X won't start!!!!

2001-10-17 Thread Aaron Traas
I just got a new GeForce3, and am having problems getting X working at
all. I'm using an AMD 760 based motherboard with a 1ghz Athlon and SB
Live!. 

I compiled a new kernel, and the NVIDIA kernel module and GLX package. I
modified XF86Config-4 as the instructions said. When I type "startx", I
get the cool NVIDIA splash screen, and then X just exits. The real
annoyance is there is NO error message given in the log.

I'm using Woody, the newest version (1541) of the NVIDIA drivers, and
the 2.4.9 kernel. This is really bugging me! Help!



Re: IPchains output

2001-10-17 Thread John Patton
On Thu, Oct 18, 2001 at 10:27:21AM +1000, Craig wrote:
> Hi,
> I am curious as what each field refers to I know that the example is, date
> hostname then deny 24.242.71.87 src port 137 to my box on port 137 proto 17
> which I believe is udp, however the rest fails me (also does someone have a
> complete listing of proto numbers to names (such as proto 17 udp?)
 
You can look at the iptables manpage for detains on those other entries, but
in my opinion they really aren't terribly important. FWIW, what's important to
me is the time, source/dest ports/addresses, protocols, chain, and reason for
denial (which I provide from my rules).

That probably wasn't terribly helpful, but here is an answer for your second
question. You can look at the following links for information on various
internet things:

protocol numbers:http://www.iana.org/assignments/protocol-numbers
port numbers:http://www.iana.org/assignments/port-numbers
icmp numbers:http://www.iana.org/assignments/icmp-parameters
multicast addresses: http://www.iana.org/assignments/multicast-addresses
address spaces:  http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space

Hope that helps.

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Re: Mutiple mail servers : REPOST

2001-10-17 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi,

If you should dare to run sendmail on Debian box, you should know the
answer to what you should to get what you want:  

 "Just set up vertual domain."

You can run as many sendmail(MTA) in theory using chroot and different port.
I see no point running another MTA.  

I can assure you that learning exim (for MTA) is much easier.  Setting
up MTA for multiple domains with multiple accounts are so easy even for
newbie like me.

Cheers ;-)

On Tue, Oct 16, 2001 at 07:06:55PM -0700, Debian GNU wrote:
> I am using sendmail for mail distribution. I am planning to add one
> more mail server so that some users are in the first mail server and
> the rest in the new one (For the same domain). Internet mails arrive
> directly on the first mail server. 
> 
> Can I configure sendmail so that if a user is found in the first mail
> server, it is to be delivered otherwise forward to the next mail
> server for further distribution and forwarding ?
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Re: extra text prints at the end of jobs

2001-10-17 Thread dman
On Wed, Oct 17, 2001 at 08:28:28PM -0700, Osamu Aoki wrote:
| Why bother using postscript interpreter (GS) on Linux work for Windoze
| machine?
| 
| Make an lpr device without filtering (RAW) and access it though samba
| from windoze.  Let windoze machine worry formatting for windoze.
| 
| Cheers ;-)

Close, but ...

See the older thread about why windows doesn't work well with this
printer.  I'll give you the short version here.

The Canon-supplied drivers assume that the printer is on LPT1 and
won't work over samba (there are actually 2 windows machines that need
to share the printer).  Also, recently it has been complaining about
the paper thickness setting even though it is set correctly.  There
are some drivers intended for the 600e that ship with windows, however
they don't produce the correct colors.  gs works great though (with
the exception of those extra lines that only occurs from the windows
machine), which is why I want to server the printer from my debian
box.

If I don't get any other suggestions, I'll try filtering out the
offending postscript with sed before I hand it to gs and see how it
goes.

Thanks for the response though.
-D



Re: supercomputer (sort of?)

2001-10-17 Thread dman
On Wed, Oct 17, 2001 at 06:35:53PM -0700, Mr. Jan Hearthstone wrote:
| Is there any info anywhere on linking with other
| computers (not LAN) on the Internet to form a higher
| computing capacity entity (LINUX specific, non-LINUX
| specific)? HOWTO's? Books? Online sources?

CORBA is one platform independent technology that can be used for
this.

Some information can be found at :

http://www.omg.org/
http://www.labs.redhat.com/orbit/
http://orbit-python.sourceforge.net

HTH,
-D



Re: extra text prints at the end of jobs

2001-10-17 Thread Osamu Aoki
Why bother using postscript interpreter (GS) on Linux work for Windoze
machine?

Make an lpr device without filtering (RAW) and access it though samba
from windoze.  Let windoze machine worry formatting for windoze.

Cheers ;-)

On Tue, Oct 16, 2001 at 08:03:51PM -0400, dman wrote:
> 
> I now have a Canon BJC-610 (color inkjet) working with CUPS through a
> custom "filter" script that invokes gs to generate the bjc610 data
> stream.  This works great from my machine, and also allows the
> connected win95 and win98 machines to use it via samba.  However, from
> the win* machines an extra page with 
> 
> %%[ Page: 1 ] %%
> %%[ LastPage ] %%
> 
> is printed.  (I don't know if this is after every page or just at the
> end because I only printed 1 page -- the windows "test" page).  That
> page doesn't feed either, I have to press the 'ff' button to eject it.
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Re: can i run caldera linux with windows xp together?

2001-10-17 Thread dman

Your subject doesn't match ;-).  I'll assume the subject is in error
and you meant Debian.

On Wed, Oct 17, 2001 at 03:17:16PM -0700, Shouguo Li wrote:
| hi, i have a question about installing debian linux on my computer.
| i have a laptop with windows xp installed, can i partition my hard
| drive and install debian linux, too?

I have no experience with winxp, but Debian (linux in general) is not
jealous and has no problems sharing the disk with other OSes.  There
are several bootloaders to choose from depending on your platform,
lilo and grub are the most popular.  The biggest trick is configuring
the bootloader to boot windows and make windows happy.  For example,
the following snippet of a grub config file boots windows -- I've
actually used it for win98 and win2k :

##
#title   M$ Windo~1
root(hd0,0)
makeactive
chainloader +1  # Chainload from the first sector


Some of the known issues with booting windows include :
o win95 (others too I think) will only work if they are on the
first hard disk.  May even need the first partition or a
primary partition.
o winnt/win2k are more complicated to get lilo to chainload them
(according to the docs on linuxdoc.org and my futile
attempts).  The above snippet works fine with grub.
o winme has no DOS (maybe XP too?).  I don't know if this is
significant wrt booting from non-MS boot loaders

Basically what it comes down to is how flexible did MS make windows
this time around?  I don't know since I don't have XP anywhere to play
with.

-D



Re: how to remove penguin logo

2001-10-17 Thread dman
On Wed, Oct 17, 2001 at 06:35:18PM -0700, Jeremy C. Reed wrote:

| > do you have to use fb?  I think the logo is mandatory w/ framebuffer... but
| > when you clear the screen, it's supposed to go away
| 
| No, as far as I know, I don't need to use fb. 

I too think that you are using the fb, whether you realize it or not.
The logo is mentioned in the fb howto, and the first time I saw it
(aside from the Debian installer, which had messed up colors) was when
I started using the fb.  For me, if I do anything that uses the whole
screen the logo goes away.  For example : start X, switch VT, run a
curses app (ie less, vim or mutt).

| Where are the documented steps for getting rid of the logo?

See above -- running a curses app should do it.

| On Wed, 17 Oct 2001, Cameron Matheson wrote:
| 
| > The kernel Documentation has something about that in the framebuffer
| > directory... If I remember correctly, someone had written a gimp-plugin to
| > convert any image to a file that you replaced the penguin w/...
| 
| I think the above was for another reader, but it was also sent to me. I am

Yes, the other reader wanted to know how to put a custom image there
instead.

| hoping that I don't have to rebuild a kernel. (This is for a student

You shouldn't need to.

| workstation in a Unix class where each workstation is running a different
| OS; please note that each workstation usually only takes three to ten
| minutes to install; in other words, I don't have time to waste on this
| particular system.)
| 
| I read an older debian-user posting that said the framebuffer can be
| enabled via lilo (configurations sent to kernel). Hopefully, this means I
| can disable it too :)

Yep.

| I guess I can check for some append="video=..." or vga=... line. My lilo
| manual doesn't discuss this, my lilo(8) and lilo.conf(5) manuals don't
| have info on this. I am not at the system, but I'll try setting

These are the argument names.

| vga=normal.

This is not a legal value (to the best of my knowledge).  (Nice guess
though ;-)).  See
/usr/share/doc/kernel-doc-2.4.8/Documentation/fb/vesafb.txt.gz for the
various modes that are legal for the VESA framebuffer.  Presumably
they work for the matroxfb too, but I've only used the vesafb.  If you
set 'vga=ask' then you get a list of the VGA (not fb) modes that are
allowed for your video card.

I just found /usr/share/doc/kernel-doc-2.4.8/Documentation/svga.txt.gz
which includes the following :

---
   The ASK_VGA mode causes the kernel to offer a video mode menu upon
bootup. It displays a "Press  to see video modes available, 
to continue or wait 30 secs" message. If you press , you enter the
menu, if you press  or wait 30 seconds, the kernel will boot up in
the standard 80x25 mode.

   The menu looks like:

Video adapter: 
Mode:COLSxROWS:
0  0F00  80x25
1  0F01  80x50
2  0F02  80x43
3  0F03  80x26

Enter mode number or `scan': 
---

There is much more interesting information.  The summary is that for
standard VGA text console you want "vga=0x0F00".


The fb is really cool though -- you get a better console since any
resolution and font can be used.  Also configuring X is as trivial as
telling it to use the fb driver.  No modelines, etc, to fuss with.
The downside is that most cards are not accelerated (the Matrox and
_some_ ATIs are supposed to be).

| Does anyone know where I can find the lilo documentation that talks about
| disabling fb?

I don't know about lilo specifics, but everything is in the kernel
docs.

| (I forgot to mention that I am not on the mailing list. The debian.org
| archive was last updated on Monday and the geocrawler.com archive doesn't
| show anything yet. Please consider Cc'ing messages to me.) 

Done, though using the Mail-Followup-To: header helps with this :-).

-D



Apache Method: POST

2001-10-17 Thread Michael W. Cole
I am trying to get the method Post to work with Apache 1.3.9 and PHP4.
I can't get the POST method to go through.  I have looked at the Apache
newsgroup but can't seem to find anything on there that will work.  Any
help will be appreciated.
Thank you.
Michael
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rescue recovery

2001-10-17 Thread Tom Allison

I finally got 90% of my notebook back up and running.
Someone else mentioned they were in the same spot.
Here's what I've managed to do so far:

First, no I did not make a backup kernel.
No I did not RTFM some critical 'M'
No I did not pay any attention to all the questions being asked of me 
during the install and royally hosed it up.  I should be spanked for the 
errors I have made.


That said...

I got another PC with Debian on it.
Copied the kernel tree into a new directory so I could do all kinds of 
damage there without breaking that PC's kernel source configuration.


In the copied directory (/usr/src/notebook) I did "make menuconfig" and 
set up the kernel the way I hoped would work on my notebook.


These are essentially the commands:
cd /usr/src/notebook
make menuconfig
make clean
make dep
make bzImage
cat arch/i386/boot/bzImage > ./vmlinuz
mkboot -r /dev/hda5 /usr/src/notebook/vmlinuz

NOTE:
/dev/hda5 is the location of root on my notebook PC (The broken one)
/usr/src/notebook is the location of the kernel (2.4.9) tree that I was 
working in for the notebook.

RTM on mkboot - it can save your butt.


I ended up making a shell script to do all of this because I have to 
remove all the modules since they were fuggered up on the notebook as well.
I was able to get a basic kernel working from a floppy and boot from 
that floppy onto the notebook.
From there I was able to reconfigure (make menuconfig) the kernel and 
install it correctly from that poing and reboot the notebook without the 
boot floppy in place.


That's where I am today -- but I have a lot of problems with my pcmcia 
drivers -- they have many unresolved symbols and I'm not sure why.  It's 
too late in the evening for me to mess with it any more -- I'll screw it 
up again and have to start over.  I'll try in the morning.


If anyone has some suggestions on what to do with the unresolved symbols 
in the pcmcia packages I would appreciate it.  I think what I need right 
now are diagnostic tips on how to really identify the problem and the why.


Thanks to everyone for their answers/suggestions/support.  I was able to 
save an aweful lot of time!!!




Re: gnome slowdown

2001-10-17 Thread dman
On Wed, Oct 17, 2001 at 06:10:57PM -0400, dman wrote:
| On Wed, Oct 17, 2001 at 02:22:10PM -0700, Jeffrey W. Baker wrote:
...
 
| | After compiling and installing ALSA, apt-get installing esound, and adding
| | myself to group "audio", GNOME was clipping right along.
| | 
| | I think that GNOME should not depend on esound to run properly, especially
| | given that many people have no sound output device.
| 
| I run GNOME just fine at home (the Duron mentioned above) with no
| sound card whatsoever.  (PC speaker doesn't count, it only beeps)  I
| either disabled esd or ignore the warnings about not finding /dev/dsp.
| I'll have to check after I get home.

Ok, I'm home now :-).  After loggin in (via gdm),  "ps -A | grep esd"
show nothing.  Looking in the gnome control panel under sound I see
that the "Enable sound server startup" check box is not selected.  As
a result the "Sounds for events" is disabled.  So as it turns out, I'm
not running esound at all on this (woody) machine and have no problems
at all.  (Well, I can't play music, but that's what I get for not
buying a sound card ;-))

-D



ATI Radeon 7500 (XFree86 config problem)

2001-10-17 Thread Thedore Knab
I recently purchased an ATI Radeon 7500 over a GEForce because of
the opensouce support.

The ATI Radeon is supported by XFree86 according to #283 on
http://www.xfree86.org/cvs/changes.html

I am running XFree86 4.1.0-7 (unstable). 

I have compiled in DRI and Radeon support in the 2.4.12 kernel.

But, I am getting "no screen errors." 

Anybody know how to fix this ?

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Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "XFree86 Configured"
Screen  0  "Screen0" 0 0
InputDevice"Mouse0" "CorePointer"
InputDevice"Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection

Section "Files"
RgbPath  "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb"
ModulePath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/"
EndSection

Section "Module"
Load  "GLcore"
Load  "dbe" #Double buffer extensions
Load  "dri"
Load  "extmod"
Load  "glx"
Load  "pex5"
Load  "record"
Load  "xie"
Load  "type1"
Load  "freetype"
Load  "v4l" #Video for Linux
EndSection

# set DRI device permissions
Section "DRI"
 Mode 0666
EndSection


Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Keyboard0"
Driver  "keyboard"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Mouse0"
Driver  "mouse"
Option  "Protocol" "PS/2"
Option  "Device" "/dev/mouse"
EndSection


Section "Device"
### Available Driver options are:-
### Values: : integer, : float, : "True"/"False",
### : "String", : " Hz/kHz/MHz"
### [arg]: arg optional
Option "ShadowFB True"  # []
#Option "VGAClocks" # []
Identifier  "ATI Radeon"
Driver  "radeon"
VendorName  "ATI"
BoardName   "Radeon QD"
#Option "Accel"
#Option "GlideDevice" "dev/Idontknow"
#BusID   "PCI:0:16:0"
BusID   "PCI:1:0:0"
VideoRam   65536
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen0"
Device "ATI Radeon"
Monitor   "superscan"
DefaultDepth 24

Subsection "Display"
Depth   8
Modes   "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
ViewPort0 0
EndSubsection
Subsection "Display"
Depth   16
Modes   "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
ViewPort0 0
EndSubsection
Subsection "Display"
Depth   24
Modes   "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
ViewPort0 0
EndSubsection
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier   "superscan"
HorizSync   31-69
VertRefresh 50-120
EndSection

This is a pre-release version of XFree86, and is not supported in any
way.  Bugs may be reported to XFree86@XFree86.Org and patches submitted
to [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Before reporting bugs in pre-release versions,
please check the latest version in the XFree86 CVS repository
(http://www.XFree86.Org/cvs)

XFree86 Version 4.1.0.1 / X Window System
(protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6510)
Release Date: xx August 2001
If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is
newer than the above date, look for a newer version before
reporting problems.  (See http://www.XFree86.Org/FAQ)
Build Operating System: Linux 2.4.7 i686 [ELF] 
Module Loader present
(==) Log file: "/var/log/XFree86.0.log", Time: Wed Oct 17 22:54:51 2001
(==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/XF86Config-4"
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
 (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
 (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) ServerLayout "XFree86 Configured"
(**) |-->Screen "Screen0" (0)
(**) |   |-->Monitor "superscan"
(**) |   |-->Device "ATI Radeon"
(**) |-->Input Device "Mouse0"
(**) |-->Input Device "Keyboard0"
(==) Keyboard: CustomKeycode disabled
(WW) The directory "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/" does not exist.
Entry deleted from font path.
(**) FontPath set to 
"/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/"
(**) RgbPath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb"
(**) ModulePath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules"
(--) using VT number 7

(WW) Cannot open APM
(II) Module ABI versions:
XFree86 ANSI C Emulation: 0.1
XFree86 Video Driver: 0.4
XFree86 XInput driver : 0.2
XFree86 Server Extens

Re: How can I get ntp working?

2001-10-17 Thread Tom Allison

The answer is

Use a simple server for your ntpd and never ever let it go down.
Some places I know have something not much better than a Pentium 1 with 
kernel 2.2.xx on it.  Uptimes for things like this and DNS servers 
should be in the years, if all goes well.



Unfortunately, if you've got a whole bunch of servers waiting to start 
 to synchronize with your main time server(s). In a hierarchical 
 environment you can get up to hours until they all are in sync :(


Running ntpdate and starting ntpd immediately after doesn`t address 
 that problem, I'm afraid. But that, I guess, is the tradeoff for ntpds 
 deep black, but very precise magic...


cheers,
&rw







emacs & w3m problem

2001-10-17 Thread Tomasz Kosinski
I am not able to get w3m to run successfully from within emacs. w3m works fine
outside of emacs, and I can browse-url successfully with w3 or with lynx from
within emacs.

Each time I try to start w3m, either with "M-x w3m", I get messages back
starting with "Dump Header", then ultimately the error message: (error "Lisp
nesting exceeds max-lisp-eval-depth"). If I try to start w3m with
"browse-url-at-point", I get "Dump Header" and then "Buffer is read-only:
#" I have a backtrace which I can send if necessary, but
this problem is beyond my capacity to solve, so any help will be greatly
appreciated.

My system is mostly "testing", emacs 20.7.2, w3m_0.1.10+0.1.11pre+kokb23-3,
with /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/w3m/w3m.el and /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50w3m.el
in the load path.

Thanks in advance for any help,

Tomasz



Re: Linux RAM drive support/performance

2001-10-17 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Wed, Oct 17, 2001 at 05:42:23PM -0400, dman wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 17, 2001 at 01:49:01PM -0400, Paul McHale wrote:
> | 
> | Does Linux support any RAM drive(s)?  How much faster are these drives over
> | an attached drive?  Is there a CPU performance penalty?
> 
> According to the kernel FAQ, Linux ext2 implementation is fast enough
> that it is not necessary to implement /tmp as a ramdisk.  Some systems
> (they give stats, I think solaris is one of them) is much slower with
> on-disk filesystems so Sun went with a ramdisk for performance with
> temp files.  I don't think you'll get much, if any, performance boost
> from using a ramdisk.  In the kernel config, look for "shm" (I think)
> in the filesystem section.  If you press "help" on it you'll see a
> discussion of tmpfs (the other name for it).  You can then mount it
> with an entry in /etc/fstab.

To enable a fixed-size ramdisk, you need to select CONFIG_BLK_DEV_RAM.

To enable the "Virtual Memory Filesystem", choose CONFIG_TMPFS.  The
documentation is a bit confusing for this as it indicates that this
filesystem is intended for POSIX shared memory, but it doesn't say you
can't use it as a ramdisk.  The relevant code is in mm/shmem.c

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Re: Debian books

2001-10-17 Thread Rahmat M. Samik-Ibrahim
ramsubs wrote:

> The book's back cover indicates Reader Level is "Beginner to Advanced".

Unfortunately, Debian is not for beginners. Use Mandrake, 
as long as you do not encounter problems! (See the Debian 
FAQ for more detail). In my place, there are *many* "Debian 
Server" maintainers who are using Mandrake (besides MickeySoft 
of cause).

> IMHO, Steve Hunger must remember that his books are sold worldwide, 
> know that complete CDROM sets are very meaningful to people here 
> in Asia where in many countries it's out of the question to download 
> the entire Debian distribution through a modem, ...

Who cares Asia anyway? Asians should! Thus, I set up
front-end mirrors like http://sapi.vlsm.org and 
http://www.id.debian.org

I am aware, links are slow and often broken. Therefore,
just add sufficient back-end mirrors in every city:
 http://kambing.vlsm.org
 http://kebo.vlsm.org
 http://gajah.vlsm.org

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Re: Mutiple mail servers : REPOST

2001-10-17 Thread Debian GNU
Hi Mike,

For some reasons, I would like to have another one.
Main reason is space constraint in the existing one.

It it is the case with only one server, I wouldnt 
have posted this question. :)

Deb

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> 
> Mike
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> Quoting Debian GNU <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
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> > Hi all,
> > 
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> > planning to add one more mail server so that some
> > users are in the first mail server and the rest in
> the
> > new one (For the same domain). Internet mails
> arrive
> > directly on the first mail server. 
> > 
> > Can I configure sendmail so that if a user is
> found in
> > the first mail server, it is to be delivered
> otherwise
> > forward to the next mail server for further
> > distribution and forwarding ?
> > 
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Forwarding Debian-user "digest": what is the best current practice?

2001-10-17 Thread Rahmat M. Samik-Ibrahim
Hello:

I would like to know the "best current practice" of forwarding
an *EDITED* debian-user thread to another list.

1. Should I notify each original writer, or should I also
   post the digest to the debian-user list, or just
   do nothing (default)?

2. I prefer not to disclose the writer's email address, 
   altough I guess that will not reduce spam.
   Is that OK?

As an example, please visit
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/debid/message/362

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Re: supercomputer (sort of?)

2001-10-17 Thread Jens Gecius
"Mr. Jan Hearthstone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Is there any info anywhere on linking with other
> computers (not LAN) on the Internet to form a higher
> computing capacity entity (LINUX specific, non-LINUX
> specific)? HOWTO's? Books? Online sources?
>   Thanks, Hearthstone.

Plenty... Most of them are distributed projects. Take a look at

http://www.aspenleaf.com/distributed/ 

as a starting point, or Google:

http://directory.google.com/Top/Computers/Computer_Science/Distributed_Computing/

Oh, and I guess one of the projects with the most computers is
probably SETI:

http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/

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Re: Shall I upgrade to Woody?

2001-10-17 Thread Shaul Karl
> I know this is a bit to generic question, and it has been probably already
> discussed a 1000 times,


Actually I believe it was discussed less then you imagine.


> but I'm fairly new, so please forgive me if I ask it nevertheless.
> 


It seems to me that this should be the major factor by which you should 
decide.
Are you fairly new to Linux in general? 


> Is there a big risk in upgrading to Woody now?


I believe a risk is a relative in nature and depends on many factors: 
Is this a production machine? Are you willing to face a possible 
reinstall from scratch? How experienced are you? Have you got any means 
to surf the Internet in order to post and read the Debian lists if 
there will be a problem? Are you willing to wait a few days until a 
possible problem is resolved and you get to know the solution?


> What speaks agains it?


There are few glitches from time to time. Not many and some of them are 
much less severe then others, but there are. The need to put more time 
in your system.


> What is the main advantage in doing so?


Having more recent versions of packages, much easier to grab only few 
packages from unstable in case that is what you need, constant updating 
your system in a rather safe from bugs manner, help in debugging Debian 
and free software, getting more experience with the system.


> 
> Also to give a little more background to the question:
> I yesterday foolishly tried to experiment with adding some unoffical sources
> to the apt sources.list.
> Basically I wanted to get a recent Mozilla already packaged as deb.
> 
> I somehow didn't payed attenion while selecting, or else dselect
> automatically has found and selected
> severel nver versions of some basic packages, without me noticing, because
> it installed several new
> gnome packages etc.
> Also suddenly some of the packages which were installed (e.g XMMS) claim to
> be missing some
> dependencies, which I can't find in the package list anywhere etc.
> (Allthough it works - at least for mp3s)
> I've also had trouble installing mozilla from tarballs. It was missing
> libstdc++libc6.1-1.so.2 etc.
> 
> So the thought occured to me, that I could do an upgrade to Woody and get
> the latest from everything...
> 
> Some related problems:
> 1. Just checking. If I would want to upgrade to Woody, I'd need to add
> 'testing' or 'woody' to the sources.list,
> and then I'd need to issue 'apt-get dist-upgrade'?
> 


Not sure if testing will work although I believe it will. So the answer 
is yes.


> 2. Is it possible to somehow delete the package database, and make apt
> reread the official ones from debian.org?
> 


Probably yes, but `somehow' sounds to me more trickier then you imagine.


> 3. Is it possible to go back to the state in dselect before you started
> making selections?
> I know that i theory 'R' should go back to the state before the current
> selection, but sometimes it
> seems to get stuck in a loop and alway brings me back the same dependency
> screen.
> Also if I made several selections, but then change my mind and want to go
> back to the state where it was
> when I've started dselect, is this possible?
> 


I do not have that much experience with dselect but I believe that it 
is not hard to get back if nothing was actually installed. That is, 
aborting before any package was actually installed should not be too 
hard.


> Many,many thanks for your help in advance!
> best regards,
> Balazs
> 
> 
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supercomputer (sort of?)

2001-10-17 Thread Mr. Jan Hearthstone
Is there any info anywhere on linking with other
computers (not LAN) on the Internet to form a higher
computing capacity entity (LINUX specific, non-LINUX
specific)? HOWTO's? Books? Online sources?
  Thanks, Hearthstone.

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Re: how to remove penguin logo

2001-10-17 Thread Jeremy C. Reed

On Thu, 18 Oct 2001, Petre Daniel wrote:

> JCR> Well, I have installed 2.2 on a i386 system with a Matrox Millenium MGA
> JCR> G100 AGP card and a ViewSonic P655 monitor. The logo looks bad, but that
> JCR> doesn't matter. (The student using the workstation was new to Linux and
> JCR> couldn't even recognize that it was a penguin.)
> 
> JCR> The problem is that the logo stays on the screen even after the kernel 
> and
> JCR> the system boots. It uses up screen space (plus it never drew correctly
> JCR> in the first place).
> 
> JCR> How can I easily choose to never display any logo?

> what are you talking about? there is a logo?
> a text one?

Graphical.

> well,check /etc/motd and remove the lines...or

This is irrelevant. Please read my message again: "the logo stays on the
screen even after the kernel a$ the system boots." This implies that it is
on the screen long before any /etc/motd of the day is used.

> if it's a logo package try to uninstall it via
> apt-get remove logo* or something..

As far as I can see, there is no such thing as a logo package.

On Wed, 17 Oct 2001, Cameron Matheson wrote:

> do you have to use fb?  I think the logo is mandatory w/ framebuffer... but
> when you clear the screen, it's supposed to go away

No, as far as I know, I don't need to use fb. 

Where are the documented steps for getting rid of the logo?

On Wed, 17 Oct 2001, Cameron Matheson wrote:

> The kernel Documentation has something about that in the framebuffer
> directory... If I remember correctly, someone had written a gimp-plugin to
> convert any image to a file that you replaced the penguin w/...

I think the above was for another reader, but it was also sent to me. I am
hoping that I don't have to rebuild a kernel. (This is for a student
workstation in a Unix class where each workstation is running a different
OS; please note that each workstation usually only takes three to ten
minutes to install; in other words, I don't have time to waste on this
particular system.)

I read an older debian-user posting that said the framebuffer can be
enabled via lilo (configurations sent to kernel). Hopefully, this means I
can disable it too :)

I guess I can check for some append="video=..." or vga=... line. My lilo
manual doesn't discuss this, my lilo(8) and lilo.conf(5) manuals don't
have info on this. I am not at the system, but I'll try setting
vga=normal.

Does anyone know where I can find the lilo documentation that talks about
disabling fb?

Thanks,

(I forgot to mention that I am not on the mailing list. The debian.org
archive was last updated on Monday and the geocrawler.com archive doesn't
show anything yet. Please consider Cc'ing messages to me.) 

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X server hangs during test config

2001-10-17 Thread Jijo.Jose.A
dear debianists,
i am a newby in debian, i installed debian sid 3.0 and kernel 2.4.19. but i 
can't configure X server . 
my system is AMD duron 700, biostar - VIA KT 133 chipset S-A-M7VKL, with 
integrated video - S3 ProSavage4,
x will detect it as S3 ProSavage KM133 rev 0, 
so i installed S3-xserver, but the system will hangs during the test using 
'XFree86 -xf86config /root/XF86Config-4.new'
how can i tackle the problem ? the X version is 4.1.0, have it support of S3 
Prosavage 4 ?
i include the Configuration,log and output of the server .
pls reply me.
TIA
-jijo
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== XF86Config-4.new 
==
Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "XFree86 Configured"
Screen  0  "Screen0" 0 0
InputDevice"Mouse0" "CorePointer"
InputDevice"Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection

Section "Files"
RgbPath  "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb"
ModulePath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/"
EndSection

Section "Module"
Load  "dbe"
Load  "dri"
Load  "extmod"
Load  "glx"
Load  "pex5"
Load  "record"
Load  "xie"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Keyboard0"
Driver  "keyboard"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Mouse0"
Driver  "mouse"
Option  "Protocol" "PS/2"
Option  "Device" "/dev/mouse"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier   "Monitor0"
VendorName   "SAM"
ModelName"1034"
HorizSync30.0 - 55.0
VertRefresh  50.0 - 120.0
EndSection

Section "Device"
### Available Driver options are:-
### Values: : integer, : float, : "True"/"False",
### : "String", : " Hz/kHz/MHz"
### [arg]: arg optional
#Option "NoAccel"   # []
#Option "HWCursor"  # []
#Option "SWCursor"  # []
#Option "ShadowFB"  # []
#Option "Rotate"# []
#Option "UseBIOS"   # []
#Option "LCDClock"  # 
#Option "ShadowStatus"  # []
Identifier  "Card0"
Driver  "savage"
VendorName  "S3"
BoardName   "ProSavage KM133"
BusID   "PCI:1:0:0"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen0"
Device "Card0"
Monitor"Monitor0"
SubSection "Display"
Depth 1
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 4
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 8
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 15
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 16
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 24
EndSubSection
EndSection

===XFree86.0.log==

XFree86 Version 4.1.0 / X Window System
(protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6510)
Release Date: 2 June 2001
If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is
newer than the above date, look for a newer version before
reporting problems.  (See http://www.XFree86.Org/FAQ)
Build Operating System: Linux 2.4.7 i686 [ELF] 
Module Loader present
(==) Log file: "/var/log/XFree86.0.log", Time: Wed Oct 17 20:36:33 2001
(==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/XF86Config-4"
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
 (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
 (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) ServerLayout "Default Layout"
(**) |-->Screen "Default Screen" (0)
(**) |   |-->Monitor "Samsung 45Bn"
(**) |   |-->Device "S3"
(**) |-->Input Device "Generic Keyboard"
(**) Option "XkbRules" "xfree86"
(**) XKB: rules: "xfree86"
(**) Option "XkbModel" "pc101"
(**) XKB: model: "pc101"
(**) Option "XkbLayout" "us"
(**) XKB: layout: "us"
(==) Keyboard: CustomKeycode disabled
(**) |-->Input Device "Configured Mouse"
(**) |-->Input Device "Generic Mouse"
(WW) The directory "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic" does not exist.
Entry deleted from font path.
(WW) The directory "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1" does not exist.
Entry deleted from font path.
(WW) The directory "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo" does not exist.
Entry deleted from font path.
(**) FontPath s

Apple Keyboard

2001-10-17 Thread Tomoo Nmura
Hello,

I'm using Sid i386.
Currently, I choose Apple USB keyboard.
When touching  key, Linux always goes to freeze.
I reconfigure console-common and set keyboard as qwert, US america,
Apple USB keyboard but the problem still exist.
Any solutions ?

Tomoo
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Re: Mozilla 0.9.5, font sizes

2001-10-17 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Wed, Oct 17, 2001 at 07:35:20AM -0700, Jeffrey W. Baker ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:
> 
> 
> On Tue, 16 Oct 2001, Alan Shutko wrote:
> 
> > "Karsten M. Self"  writes:
> >
> > > To this extent, the CSS spec is severely flawed in that it grants
> > > precedence to website author, not reader.  This is bass ackwards.
> >
> > One major point of CSS was explicitly to grant precedence to reader to
> > override things.  It's browser vendors/authors who have been unable to
> > grasp this concept, and come up with a decent UI.
> 
> Mozilla has a perfectly good UI for this.  Just uncheck that box in
> the font preferences panel that allows web pages to use their own
> fonts.  Your fonts will be used all the time.

This isn't sufficient.  And yes, I use Galeon.

I can specify a font *face*.  I cannot specify a font *size* to be used.
The minimum font scaling helps, but due to differences between fonts
(Courier New TT displays larger than Garamount TT at an equivalent point
size), it's not sufficient.

What I'm requesting, again, is the ability to disable use of the "size"
attribute, or the ability to factor the step size such that a size=1
font is still readable.

Looking back at a page I turned up earlier today:

http://news.ft.com/ft/gx.cgi/ftc?pagename=View&c=Article&cid=FT3X0JDKUSC&live=true&tagid=ZZZC00L1B0C&subheading=information%20technology

(if the above doesn't work, try:  http://news.ft.com/)

  - The stylesheet specifies 12pt Ariel as the "AllWide" font (default
text style).

  - With my default settings, I need to bump the page to 130% for
comfortable viewing (relatively easy with Galeon, but an annoyance
all the same).

  - Deselecting the "use own fonts" setting makes the situation XXX
worse/better.  In this case, there's a confounding of effects
between my chosing a font that I prefer, and the site insisting
(through stylesheets) on a point size.  I'm not altogether sure that
I can override a class specification for a font.  I'll look into it
eventually.

More general point:  websites are doing themselves a disservice by
*overspecifying* presentation.  CSS or no CSS.

Peace.

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Re: Any windowing system in text mode?

2001-10-17 Thread ramsubs
> On Wed, Oct 17, 2001 at 06:00:44PM +0800, ramsubs wrote:
> > If I wanted to write an app which runs on a pseudo windowing system in
> > text mode, what tools do I use?  By this, I mean something similar to
> > Foxpro for DOS which has a windowing system running in DOS mode where
> > you can drag windows around, able to pop up dialog boxes, uses gpm-type
> > mouse, and so on...
> 
> Do you want to use an existing toolkit for this "text gui" or are you
> going to write your own?
> 
> If you're writing your own, you can do it all with (n)curses or s-lang.
> 
i want to use an existing toolkit.

any suggestions?

thanks
ram
linux newbie




Re: /proc permissions

2001-10-17 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Wed, Oct 17, 2001 at 10:53:07AM +, andrej hocevar ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 16, 2001 at 08:01:12PM -0700, Karsten M. Self wrote:
> > on Tue, Oct 16, 2001 at 02:19:35PM +, andrej hocevar ([EMAIL 
> > PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > > lately i've inherited my brother's rockwell modem, which is a hsf,
> > > meaning, as far as i know, it's a winmodem. so i took a look a
> > > http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/Conexant+Rockwell-modem-HOWTO/hsf.html
> > > the instruction say to change the content of /proc/pci. 
> > > which is the problem -- i cannot do it as i can't change the
> > > permissions! 
> > > what's the answer? or is there another way of making such a modem
> > > work? (as you see, i can do without as well, but my own modem is
> > > supposably slower ...)
> > 
> > /proc is a virtual filesystem.  Features are determined by supported
> > compiled into (or provided via a module) in your kernel.
> > 
> > Changes to /proc settings must be supported by your kernel, and
> > performed as root.

Please use postfix quoting format:  your reply goes below the material
cited.  Trim your quotes appropriately and ensure your attributions are
accurate.

Fix your mailer.  cc'ing 'root' on my host isn't going to do either of
us much good.

Thank you.

> so now i've found out that there's also the /proc/sys/proc directory
> to which one should be able to write and thus make modifications to
> the system. since it is empty, do i just have to create a new file
> with the name /proc/sys/proc/pci and append only the lines i first
> wanted to add to /proc/pci? or do i need to copy the whole /proc/pci
> plus the new lines?

Learn the use of your shift key.  It makes reading posts far easier.

IIRC (too lazy to search kernel docs:  /usr/src/linuc/Documentation),
/proc/sys/pci is one of the PCI support options in the kernel.  You
*cannot* create files under /proc via standard filesystem commands.
That's not how proc works.  The directory and file structure are
determined by your kernel.  You'll need to compile in appropriate
support.

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Re: Problems browsing a site

2001-10-17 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Tue, Oct 16, 2001 at 10:32:05PM -0700, Ross Boylan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> At 08:33 PM 10/16/01 -0700, Karsten M. Self wrote:
> >on Mon, Oct 15, 2001 at 04:54:14PM -0700, Ross Boylan 
> >([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > http://kmself.home.netcom.com/Rants/javascript-rant.html
> >
> >Write your councilmember as well.
> >
> >In general, sites should avoid client-side scripting.  It's necessary in
> >only the very fewest of instances.  It grossly erodes site
> >accessibility.
> >
> >Ask if the library would be willing to design its doors in such a way
> >that a quarter of the people of the city would be unable to pass
> >through.
> 
> Well, maybe you've convinced me sites should try to avoid java/script
> (I didn't mention it, but this one uses javascript as well as java, I
> believe).  But I still don't understand why I'm having problems with
> this site, given that my browser is java-enabled.
> 
> What's your basis for saying such issues render the site inaccessible
> to 1/4 the potential users?

I thought it was http://www.counter.com/, but can't find the page.  At
any rate, an over-the-web stats tool that's javascript enabled.  The
number of hits from non-Javascript enabled clients was on the order of
21-25%.  This is from a broad base of largely simple, end-user sites, it
may not be fully representative, but is probably a relatively good
sample.

Can't find the reference currently.

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Font problem with Gnumeric etc.

2001-10-17 Thread Mikko Hänninen
Hello,

I have a problem with some fonts displaying the text as squares instead
of the letters.  I noticed the problem initially with Gnumeric, but it
also appears with xmms playlist display.  So I don't think it's a
Gnumeric problem, rather than a problem with fonts in X, or how Gnome
is handling the fonts.  This problem appeared about a month ago when I
updated some X and X fonts packages using apt-get (I forget the time and
packages exactly, unfortunately).

I am running Debian unstable.  XFree86 3.3.6.  I don't usually run
Gnome, just some Gnome applications from time to time.

I have made a screen capture of the problem, it's at
http://www.wizzu.com/scratch/gnumeric-window.gif


I found a similar problem report on debian-user from Dominique Dumont
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> at Sep 4th. (Archived at
http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2001/debian-user-200109/msg00310.html )
But the fix that worked for him (re-arranging the font configuration
lines in the XF86Config file) does not work for me.  Also, I can't get
the fonts show correctly in Gnumeric regardless of the magnification.
But it is similar in the for every 2 typed characters I get 1 square.

My X configuration for fonts looks like this:

FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/:unscaled"
FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/"
FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled"
FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/"
FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled"
FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/"
FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/"
FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/"
FontPath "unix/:7101"


I am not subscribed to debian-user, so please Cc all replies to me as
well.


I'm at a loss what to do to get fonts showing properly again in
Gnumeric, so I'm thankful for any help, ideas or suggestions.

Mikko
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Hard drive repartitioning..

2001-10-17 Thread Petre Daniel
Well,i have a pc without a floppy disk,with only cdrom and a 3 gb hard
drive.
I've put a first 1,8 gb windows partition and a 1,2 gb debian
partition.Now,since i'm not using any X thingie,i'd like to know
an easy way to repartition my hardrive like
2,3 gb hdd windows and only 700 megs of debian.
I don't want to reinstall windows,i can reinstall debian.
What tool should i use? debians or windows?
I'd appreciate any help.
Dani,
Repartitioning support.


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Evolution - sorta fixed.

2001-10-17 Thread Steve Downing
I had been having troubles with the mail component of Evolution appearing 
to crash, and after finding killev and oafslay (more programs to 
kill runaway processes!), I was a bit happier, but it seems that 
the source of my troubles lay deeper.

I was running Nautilus and Evolution at the same time, and I hadn't 
configured sound ( esd ) yet, since I wasn't too bothered. BUT according 
to this Debian bug I found,
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=107941&repeatmerged=yes
Nautilus runs crappy if esd isn't configured.  I had noticed this,
but it wasn't high on my list of things to fix.
Once I stopped using Nautilus, Evolution seemed to perform flawlessly 
( YAY! ).
I can only surmise that Nautilus was disturbing oaf or bonobo or 
one of those type things, and that was disturbing Evolution.

HTH - Just in case someone else had this problem.

I'll be filing bugs ( or at least warnings of ) with Debian and Ximians 
bugzilla for future reference.

Steve

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X in Woody: you gotta be fscking kidding!

2001-10-17 Thread Dimitri Maziuk
Hi boys and girls,
anyone can tell me what the fuck is that dexconf crap and how do I 
get rid of it? I mean, really, which genius came up with the idea 
that I need to regenerate a perfectly working config file every time 
I update $PACKAGE? 

Jeesus F. Christ... it could at least ask me if I *really* want to
overwrite XF86Config-4...

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entities."-- corollary to Occam's Razor



IPchains output

2001-10-17 Thread Craig



Hi,
I am curious as what each field refers to I know 
that the example is,
date hostname then deny 24.242.71.87 src port 137 
to my box on port 137 proto 17 which I believe is udp, however the rest fails me 
(also does someone have a complete listing of proto numbers to names (such as 
proto 17 udp?) 
 
Oct 18 09:01:43 
networkconfusion kernel: Packet log: input DENY ppp0 PROTO=17 24.242.71.87:137 
144.137.126.120:137 L=78 S=0x00 I=26791 F=0x T=101 (#8)
 
I would 
appreciate any assistance.
 
Regards,
 
Craig



Re: Mozilla 0.9.5, font sizes

2001-10-17 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Tue, Oct 16, 2001 at 11:52:52PM -0400, Alan Shutko ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> "Karsten M. Self"  writes:
> 
> > To this extent, the CSS spec is severely flawed in that it grants
> > precedence to website author, not reader.  This is bass ackwards.
> 
> One major point of CSS was explicitly to grant precedence to reader to
> override things.  It's browser vendors/authors who have been unable to
> grasp this concept, and come up with a decent UI.

Ah.

I was wrong on this.  My prior reading was that author overrides user,
_including_ in use of the "!important" attribute.  I see this isn't the
case.  As this is a change from CSS1 I may have been confused by prior
references or different sources.

This is a much better situation than I'd feared.  Spec follows.

http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-CSS2/cascade.html

Cascading Style Sheets, level 2 
CSS2 Specification
W3C Recommendation 12-May-1998

6 Assigning property values, Cascading, and Inheritance

...

6.4.1 Cascading order

To find the value for an element/property combination, user agents
must apply the following sorting order:

...

 2. The primary sort of the declarations is by weight and origin:
for normal declarations, author style sheets override user style
sheets which override the default style sheet. For "!important"
declarations, user style sheets override author style sheets
which override the default style sheet. "!  important"
declaration override normal declarations. An imported style
sheet has the same origin as the style sheet that imported it.
...

Apart from the "!important" setting on individual declarations, this
strategy gives author's style sheets higher weight than those of the
reader. It is therefore important that the user agent give the user
the ability to turn off the influence of a certain style sheet,
e.g., through a pull-down menu.

6.4.2 !important rules

CSS attempts to create a balance of power between author and user
style sheets.  By default, rules in an author's style sheet override
those in a user's style sheet (see cascade rule 3).

However, for balance, an "!important" declaration (the keywords "!"
and "important" follow the declaration) takes precedence over a
normal declaration.  Both author and user style sheets may contain
"!important" declarations, and user "!important" rules override
author "!important" rules. This CSS feature improves accessibility
of documents by giving users with special requirements (large fonts,
color combinations, etc.) control over presentation.

*Note. This is a semantic change since CSS1. In CSS1, author
"!important" rules took precedence over user "!important" rules.*

[Emphasis in original]

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Re: how to remove penguin logo

2001-10-17 Thread Cameron Matheson
Hey,

The kernel Documentation has something about that in the framebuffer
directory... If I remember correctly, someone had written a gimp-plugin to
convert any image to a file that you replaced the penguin w/...

Cameron Matheson


- Original Message -
From: Robert L. Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Cameron Matheson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: Jeremy C. Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 4:32 PM
Subject: Re: how to remove penguin logo


>
>
> How do you change the logo?  I remember back when he came out there were
> alot of alternatives.  I'd like to find something a bit more interesting.
>
>
> Thus spake Cameron Matheson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
>
> > Hey,
> >
> > do you have to use fb?  I think the logo is mandatory w/ framebuffer...
but
> > when you clear the screen, it's supposed to go away
> >
> > Cameron Matheson
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: Jeremy C. Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: 
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 4:14 PM
> > Subject: how to remove penguin logo
> >
> >
> > > Well, I have installed 2.2 on a i386 system with a Matrox Millenium
MGA
> > > G100 AGP card and a ViewSonic P655 monitor. The logo looks bad, but
that
> > > doesn't matter. (The student using the workstation was new to Linux
and
> > > couldn't even recognize that it was a penguin.)
> > >
> > > The problem is that the logo stays on the screen even after the kernel
and
> > > the system boots. It uses up screen space (plus it never drew
correctly
> > > in the first place).
> > >
> > > How can I easily choose to never display any logo?
> > >
> > > Please note that I attempted to search using the glimpse interface for
the
> > > Debian lists and search via google's usenet search, but never found an
> > > answer within all the noise about logo contests and framebuffers. Feel
> > > free to point me to documentation, FAQ or mailing list posting that
> > > answers this question.
> > >
> > >   Jeremy C. Reed
> > > ...
> > >  BSD software, documentation, resources, news...
> > >  http://bsd.reedmedia.net/
> > >
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Re: How can I get ntp working?

2001-10-17 Thread Robert Waldner

On Wed, 17 Oct 2001 19:03:30 EDT, Tom Allison writes:
>Additional comment.
>ntpd on Server 'A' will not accept any time synchronization requests until it 
>is satisfied it's got a reasonable time, then Computer 'B' will be able to 
>synchronize with Server 'A'.
>After you run ntpdate and start ntpd -- wait a little while.  If you need to 
>know exactly how long - watch tcpdump for the ntp traffic to die down a 
>little bit and then try it.
>I find 10 minutes is a very good number.

Unfortunately, if you've got a whole bunch of servers waiting to start 
 to synchronize with your main time server(s). In a hierarchical 
 environment you can get up to hours until they all are in sync :(

Running ntpdate and starting ntpd immediately after doesn`t address 
 that problem, I'm afraid. But that, I guess, is the tradeoff for ntpds 
 deep black, but very precise magic...

cheers,
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Fw: root raid & xfs journalling file system - woody

2001-10-17 Thread Callide- Eagle Engineering

- Original Message -
From: "Callide- Eagle Engineering" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, 18 October 2001 9:25
Subject: root raid & xfs journalling file system - woody


> Hi,
>
> Please cc me as I'm not on the list yet.
>
> I'll be soon setting up a server at work running debian woody (yes I've
been
> running it on a workstation for a month no problems) and will need to use
> software raid 5 on 3 scsi disks on top of which I would like to use the
SGI
> journalling file system.
>
> Is anyone on the list using this combination?
>
> If so any pointers for installation?
>
> 1. I thought the way I might start out would be to install the base system
> on an IDE drive and install a compilled kernel and tools required to set
up
> the raid and xfs file systems
>
> 2. Reboot the new kernel configure the raid array, partition the logical
> drive, format the file systems.
>
> 3 Reboot again transfer the relevant files across to the new root
partition
> on the raid array, edit fstab and lilo, make a boot floppy then boot off
> floppy, tell lilo to boot off the new root file system on the logical disk
> (raid array) at the lilo prompt and then run /sbin/lilo. (Will this work
> with the new array? Or should I have a copy of the boot partition on each
> disk?)
>
> Any better suggestions?
>
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Peter Firmstone.
>
>
> N.B. we won't be using MS Outlook for much longer due to virus problems.
>



mozilla

2001-10-17 Thread Ranko Veselinovic
Hi folks

I just want to ask if anybody has observed the same
symptoms described below?

Well, I installed Mozilla/5.0 (X11;U;Linux 2.2.19 i586;en-US;m18)
Gecko/20001103.
I'm running Icewm (without gnome,kde) with the default theme.
After a while the colors of the window-manager and mozilla starts to 
invert their colors.
When I change to an other workspace (where mozilla doesn't work) this
symptonn dissapears.
But when I change back to the workspace where this syptoms appears, this
happens again.

Why?

System: AMD K6/2 350
RAM 128MB
Kernel 2.2.19
gcc 2.7.2.3
woody (downloaded raw files from server in Hungary [16.11.01])

regards
Ranko

p.s.: sorry for my english
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Re: How can I get ntp working?

2001-10-17 Thread Tom Allison
On Wednesday 17 October 2001 14:13, Dave Sherohman spewed forth:
> On Wed, Oct 17, 2001 at 10:44:50PM +0530, Raghavendra Bhat wrote:
> > [Wed, Oct 17, 2001 at 09:36:38AM -0500] Dave Sherohman :
> > > ntpdate sets the time to be correct now.
> >
> > ntpdate sets  the system time after  syncing with the  time server.  Now
> > you have to update the hardware clock by doing a 'hwclock -w' before you
> > do a reboot/halt.  Have I gone wrong somewhere ?
>
> Slightly.  Unlike date/rdate, it appears that ntpdate also updates
> the hardware clock, so you don't need to use hwclock if you use
> ntpdate.
>
> > > idea is that you run ntpdate  at boot (or on installation) to make the
> > > time correct, then run ntpd continuously to keep it correct.
> >
> > Do we have  ntpdate symlinked in all run-levels ?
>
> It should be set up to run in all networked runlevels (2-5) by the
> package's installer.
>
> > You  mean to say that
> > ntpdate should run before ntp ?
>
> Yes.  ntpdate cannot run while ntpd is active because they both
> listen on the same port.  The debian ntpdate and ntp packages handle
> this properly, by setting up the rc?.d symlinks such that ntpdate
> runs first, then ntpd is started.
>
> > Do ntpdate and ntp read the same config
> > file ie. /etc/ntp.conf ?
>
> No.  ntpdate isn't that smart and needs to have its list of time
> sources passed on the command line.  To configure it, you have to
> edit /etc/init.d/ntpdate and follow the instructions in the script's
> comments.


Additional comment.
ntpd on Server 'A' will not accept any time synchronization requests until it 
is satisfied it's got a reasonable time, then Computer 'B' will be able to 
synchronize with Server 'A'.
After you run ntpdate and start ntpd -- wait a little while.  If you need to 
know exactly how long - watch tcpdump for the ntp traffic to die down a 
little bit and then try it.
I find 10 minutes is a very good number.



Re: gs 6.5 package anywhere?

2001-10-17 Thread Peter S Galbraith

Ari Pollak wrote:

> The newest gs 6 packages are at http://incoming.debian.org. hopefully
> they should be in unstable tomorrow.
> 
> > > The gs package is terribly outdated.  Anyone know of a gs 6.5
> > > package built with stp support?

Yes, and it has stp support!  I finally got my Canon S400 to
work!

(Strangely, if I set it to 720x720 instead of 360x360, it prints
everything twice as big!)

Thanks!
Peter



Re: File corruption

2001-10-17 Thread Russell Coker
Firstly I think this is more suitable for debian-user, so I'm BCCing -devel 
and CCing -user.  Please CC me on any follow-ups.

On Wed, 17 Oct 2001 15:27, Steven Mooij wrote:
> Hello, I'm not a debian developer (yet), but I hope I am allowed to post a
> message here. It is about a potential bug, but I can't send it with the
> BTS, because I don't know which package to file it against.

Firstly what you are describing isn't a debian bug so is not suitable for the 
BTS.  It's either a kernel issue or a hardware issue.

> On Wed, 17 Oct 2001 00:58:59 Russell Coker wrote:
> > Also there's this new "tainted kernel" thing which is a huge new feature,
> > and
> > there are rumours about Ext3 FS corruption and data loss..
>
> Maybe my problem has something to do with these rumours, maybe not: When I
> copy large amounts of data sometimes some bytes are changed. This must
> sound vague: sometimes, some bytes, but unfortunately this is the case, I
> haven't figured out a reproducable test-situation.

Firstly create a file with a variety of data that's significantly larger than 
ram.  Eg:
tar cvf /tmp/junk /usr

Then run md5sum repeatedly on it in the following fashion:
while /bin/true ; do md5sum /tmp/junk ; done > /tmp/out

Leave that running overnight and then run the following in the morning:
uniq < /tmp/out

If it gives more than one line of output then your hard drives are not 
repeatedly returning the same data to read requests.

There is a potential problem that this error may only occur on certain parts 
of the hard drive.  Booting with init=/bin/sh and running the following could 
be useful in that case:
while /bin/true ; do md5sum /dev/md1 ; done

Doing that all night shouldn't exhaust the kernel scroll-back buffer.

Then if that doesn't show anything then you have to try repeatedly copying a 
file and using md5sum to check the result (should be the same after every 
copy).

> 2628DB Delft

If your machine is portable I could meet you at a HCC or NLLGG meeting and 
check it out.  Send private mail if that interests you.

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Re: font problem in kde

2001-10-17 Thread Tom Allison
On Wednesday 17 October 2001 14:56, Mario Olimpio de Menezes spewed forth:
> Hi,
>
>   I'm experiencing a weird problem in kde:
>   - when using kde wm, I can't access all fonts available in my
> system; it defaults to a very ugly and almost unreadable font (Arnold
> Boecklin).
>   - when using another window manager, like wmaker, I launch kde
> control center, choose the appropriate font (arial), apply it, the
> control center window gets redrawn with the chosen font and every kde
> app that I launch will have the right font (arial, courier, whatever).
>   Any hint on why this is happening?
>   How to find the culprit?
>

I have a similar situation where my Fixed Width fonts are defaulting to an 
Agate 8 -- which is a hideously difficult to read font similar to an Olde 
English type.  It might be nice someplaces, but not on my terminal windows.



Re: how to remove penguin logo

2001-10-17 Thread Hans Ekbrand
On Thu, Oct 18, 2001 at 01:28:04AM +0200, Petre Daniel wrote:
> Hello Jeremy,
> 
> Thursday, October 18, 2001, 01:26:41 Acasica, you wrote:
> 
> JCR> Well, I have installed 2.2 on a i386 system with a Matrox Millenium MGA
> JCR> G100 AGP card and a ViewSonic P655 monitor. The logo looks bad, but that
> JCR> doesn't matter. (The student using the workstation was new to Linux and
> JCR> couldn't even recognize that it was a penguin.)
> 
> JCR> The problem is that the logo stays on the screen even after the kernel 
> and
> JCR> the system boots. It uses up screen space (plus it never drew correctly
> JCR> in the first place).
> 
> JCR> How can I easily choose to never display any logo?
> 
> JCR> Please note that I attempted to search using the glimpse interface for 
> the
> JCR> Debian lists and search via google's usenet search, but never found an
> JCR> answer within all the noise about logo contests and framebuffers. Feel
> JCR> free to point me to documentation, FAQ or mailing list posting that
> JCR> answers this question.
> 
> JCR>   Jeremy C. Reed
> JCR> ...
> JCR>  BSD software, documentation, resources, news...
> JCR>  http://bsd.reedmedia.net/
> 
> 
> what are you talking about? there is a logo?
> a text one?
> well,check /etc/motd and remove the lines...or
> if it's a logo package try to uninstall it via
> apt-get remove logo* or something..
> good luck.
> Dani,
> Hackers unsupport.
> 

I think Jeremy might be using framebuffers, at least I met with the
penguin when I started to use framebuffers. My experience is that the
logo disappears when you need the space, i.e. when you start a ncurses program.
Doesn't it go away with Cltr-l?

I did not find any boot option for not displaying the logo in
kernel-documentation (Documenation/logo.txt and
Documentation/fb/*.txt).




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Re: gnome slowdown

2001-10-17 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On Wed, Oct 17, 2001 at 03:02:09PM +0200, Frank Preut wrote:
> hello,
>   after i finally solved my sound problems in gnome, the bugger is
> gnawing at my nerves again.. now it slows down in a very haphazard
> manner.. first of all it seems to start up slower than before..

Gnome slow? Gee, I thought that was a feature. :)

Mike

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Re: KDE v's Gnome font rendering & how do I get all of gnome Anyways?

2001-10-17 Thread Jeffrey W. Baker


On Wed, 17 Oct 2001, Aniartia wrote:

> I've just finaly got X working only to find KDE, correctly, uses 75dpi font
> rendering but gnome for some god forsaken reason is using 100dpi, anyone got
> any ideas how to get gnome & kde on the same page, prefrably the 75dpi page?

Check /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc for the 100dpi command switch, and change
it to 75.  Make sure that /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 lists 75dpi fonts before
100dpi fonts.

-jwb



Re: how to remove penguin logo

2001-10-17 Thread Volker Schlecht
* Robert L. Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [011018 00:32]: 
> How do you change the logo?  I remember back when he came out there were 
> alot of alternatives.  I'd like to find something a bit more interesting.

http://www.informatik.hu-berlin.de/~piefel/debian/

is probably what you are looking for.

regards,
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Re: Change XFree from 4.1.0 to 3.3.6 in testing?

2001-10-17 Thread Mark S. Mathews
Ok, I figured it out.  I used the 3.3.6 packages that dselect shows but
had to go and get the xserver-mach64 package from potato.  It seems to
be working OK now...except I can't use a framebuffer console with the
mach64 server, but that's a different problem.

-M

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> 
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> 
> I've installed testing on my laptop, it installed XFree 4.1.0 (which is
> very nice BTW), but unfortunately I need to move back to XFree 3.3.6.  I
> have a Mach64 controller in this laptop and the XFree 4.1.0 driver only
> supports 8-bit color on this chip.
> 
> Can someone clue me in on the proper procedure for doing this?
> 
> In dselect, I can see a couple of 3.3.6 packages but only the SVGA
> server is shown.  I'm a little confused about which way I should go at
> this point.
> 
> Thanks,
> -Mark
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Re: how to remove penguin logo

2001-10-17 Thread Robert L. Harris


How do you change the logo?  I remember back when he came out there were 
alot of alternatives.  I'd like to find something a bit more interesting.


Thus spake Cameron Matheson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

> Hey,
> 
> do you have to use fb?  I think the logo is mandatory w/ framebuffer... but
> when you clear the screen, it's supposed to go away
> 
> Cameron Matheson
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Jeremy C. Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 4:14 PM
> Subject: how to remove penguin logo
> 
> 
> > Well, I have installed 2.2 on a i386 system with a Matrox Millenium MGA
> > G100 AGP card and a ViewSonic P655 monitor. The logo looks bad, but that
> > doesn't matter. (The student using the workstation was new to Linux and
> > couldn't even recognize that it was a penguin.)
> >
> > The problem is that the logo stays on the screen even after the kernel and
> > the system boots. It uses up screen space (plus it never drew correctly
> > in the first place).
> >
> > How can I easily choose to never display any logo?
> >
> > Please note that I attempted to search using the glimpse interface for the
> > Debian lists and search via google's usenet search, but never found an
> > answer within all the noise about logo contests and framebuffers. Feel
> > free to point me to documentation, FAQ or mailing list posting that
> > answers this question.
> >
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Re: how to remove penguin logo

2001-10-17 Thread Tim Moss
On Wed, 17 Oct 2001 15:15:11 -0700
"Jeremy C. Reed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

--snip--
> The problem is that the logo stays on the screen even after the kernel
> and
> the system boots. It uses up screen space (plus it never drew
> correctly
> in the first place).
> 
--snip--

Are you talking about the framebuffer logo? If so, just switching to
another VT and then back should make it go away.



Re: how to remove penguin logo

2001-10-17 Thread Cameron Matheson
Hey,

do you have to use fb?  I think the logo is mandatory w/ framebuffer... but
when you clear the screen, it's supposed to go away

Cameron Matheson


- Original Message -
From: Jeremy C. Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 4:14 PM
Subject: how to remove penguin logo


> Well, I have installed 2.2 on a i386 system with a Matrox Millenium MGA
> G100 AGP card and a ViewSonic P655 monitor. The logo looks bad, but that
> doesn't matter. (The student using the workstation was new to Linux and
> couldn't even recognize that it was a penguin.)
>
> The problem is that the logo stays on the screen even after the kernel and
> the system boots. It uses up screen space (plus it never drew correctly
> in the first place).
>
> How can I easily choose to never display any logo?
>
> Please note that I attempted to search using the glimpse interface for the
> Debian lists and search via google's usenet search, but never found an
> answer within all the noise about logo contests and framebuffers. Feel
> free to point me to documentation, FAQ or mailing list posting that
> answers this question.
>
>   Jeremy C. Reed
> ...
>  BSD software, documentation, resources, news...
>  http://bsd.reedmedia.net/
>
>
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Re: how to remove penguin logo

2001-10-17 Thread Glyn Millington
"Jeremy C. Reed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Well, I have installed 2.2 on a i386 system with a Matrox Millenium MGA
> G100 AGP card and a ViewSonic P655 monitor. The logo looks bad, but that
> doesn't matter. (The student using the workstation was new to Linux and
> couldn't even recognize that it was a penguin.)
>
> The problem is that the logo stays on the screen even after the kernel and
> the system boots. It uses up screen space (plus it never drew correctly
> in the first place).
>
> How can I easily choose to never display any logo?

I hate to harm that cute little penguin but.

dpkg --purge linuxlogodid the trick here!





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KDE v's Gnome font rendering & how do I get all of gnome Anyways?

2001-10-17 Thread Aniartia
I've just finaly got X working only to find KDE, correctly, uses 75dpi font 
rendering but gnome for some god forsaken reason is using 100dpi, anyone got 
any ideas how to get gnome & kde on the same page, prefrably the 75dpi page?

Next thing, how do I get all of gnome down devel libs n' all with apt-get? 
Please don't tell me to use dselect cause I want to use apt-get. Have I 
missed something here?..

TIA
  Ani



Re: how to remove penguin logo

2001-10-17 Thread Petre Daniel
Hello Jeremy,

Thursday, October 18, 2001, 01:26:41 Acasica, you wrote:

JCR> Well, I have installed 2.2 on a i386 system with a Matrox Millenium MGA
JCR> G100 AGP card and a ViewSonic P655 monitor. The logo looks bad, but that
JCR> doesn't matter. (The student using the workstation was new to Linux and
JCR> couldn't even recognize that it was a penguin.)

JCR> The problem is that the logo stays on the screen even after the kernel and
JCR> the system boots. It uses up screen space (plus it never drew correctly
JCR> in the first place).

JCR> How can I easily choose to never display any logo?

JCR> Please note that I attempted to search using the glimpse interface for the
JCR> Debian lists and search via google's usenet search, but never found an
JCR> answer within all the noise about logo contests and framebuffers. Feel
JCR> free to point me to documentation, FAQ or mailing list posting that
JCR> answers this question.

JCR>   Jeremy C. Reed
JCR> ...
JCR>  BSD software, documentation, resources, news...
JCR>  http://bsd.reedmedia.net/


what are you talking about? there is a logo?
a text one?
well,check /etc/motd and remove the lines...or
if it's a logo package try to uninstall it via
apt-get remove logo* or something..
good luck.
Dani,
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can i run caldera linux with windows xp together?

2001-10-17 Thread Shouguo Li
hi, i have a question about installing debian linux on my computer.
i have a laptop with windows xp installed, can i partition my hard
drive and install debian linux, too?
thanks

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how to remove penguin logo

2001-10-17 Thread Jeremy C. Reed
Well, I have installed 2.2 on a i386 system with a Matrox Millenium MGA
G100 AGP card and a ViewSonic P655 monitor. The logo looks bad, but that
doesn't matter. (The student using the workstation was new to Linux and
couldn't even recognize that it was a penguin.)

The problem is that the logo stays on the screen even after the kernel and
the system boots. It uses up screen space (plus it never drew correctly
in the first place).

How can I easily choose to never display any logo?

Please note that I attempted to search using the glimpse interface for the
Debian lists and search via google's usenet search, but never found an
answer within all the noise about logo contests and framebuffers. Feel
free to point me to documentation, FAQ or mailing list posting that
answers this question.

  Jeremy C. Reed
...
 BSD software, documentation, resources, news...
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Re: gnome slowdown

2001-10-17 Thread dman
On Wed, Oct 17, 2001 at 02:22:10PM -0700, Jeffrey W. Baker wrote:
| On Wed, 17 Oct 2001, Frank Preut wrote:
| > On Wed, Oct 17, 2001 at 03:02:09PM +0200, Frank Preut wrote:
| > > hello,
| > >   after i finally solved my sound problems in gnome, the bugger is
| > > gnawing at my nerves again.. now it slows down in a very haphazard
| > > manner.. first of all it seems to start up slower than before..
| > > secondly, applications might load normally but then take minutes to shut
| > > down.. or they "sleep" for some 15 seconds or so before they continue..
| > > the whole thing is very slow to respond most of the time.. i'm on
| > > testing and i recently upgraded X to the infamous 4.1-7 release and my
| > > kernel to 2.4.10-686 and i wonder whether anyone else is seeing this
| > > kind of problem.. the machine (a pII-350 with 256M) isn't the fastest on
| > > the planet but it was much more bearable before..

That machine should do just fine.  I had a PII-300 (only 64MB RAM) up
until several months ago and had no performance problems with it.  I
got a new machine because Compaq makes bad desktops -- not expandable
at all.  I didn't make a big jump, only a Duron 750 with 256M RAM.  I
have so much memory because it was cheap (the first 128M stick was
cheaper than 2 64s would have been so I went for it, the other was on
sale for very little money).

| I just installed unstable freshly, including GNOME.  I noticed that GNOME
| was *totally* useless if esd wasn't running.  Nautilus would hang for
| 15-30 seconds at a stretch, as would Galeon.  Logging out was impossible
| or took a very long time.  Generally nothing worked properly.

I bet those apps are trying to play sounds, and eventually timing out.

| After compiling and installing ALSA, apt-get installing esound, and adding
| myself to group "audio", GNOME was clipping right along.
| 
| I think that GNOME should not depend on esound to run properly, especially
| given that many people have no sound output device.

I run GNOME just fine at home (the Duron mentioned above) with no
sound card whatsoever.  (PC speaker doesn't count, it only beeps)  I
either disabled esd or ignore the warnings about not finding /dev/dsp.
I'll have to check after I get home.

-D



Re[2]: Help: SB16 & 'potato'

2001-10-17 Thread Petre Daniel
Hello Joseph,

Wednesday, October 17, 2001, 22:16:54 Acasica, you wrote:

JWD> On Wed, 17 Oct 2001, Petre Daniel wrote:
>> it's not hard.
>> i have a creative sound blaster 16 myself.
>> just do "modprobe sb" and you're all set.

JWD>   I'm surprised - that *did* work.  I had managed to get it working before
JWD> on a previous installation of potato I had by jumping through hoops with
JWD> insmod, isapnp and suchlike. [bad memory on my part - I have no idea these
JWD> days just what I finally did last time to get it to work :]

>> i think you're supposed to edit /etc/modules.conf or /etc/conf.modules
>> and add an alias for sb
>> but i bet modutils can do that for you.

JWD>   I remember trying to do that before and ending up with a ton of
JWD> "/etc/modules.conf is newer than /lib/modules/2.2.19pre17/modules.dep"
JWD> errors [and vice-versa].

>> good luck and don't forget "saytime" and "mpg123"

JWD>   First things I grabbed. :)

   you're right.i forgot about those things.
   It's an isa card,right? so first you have to check it out,sort of
   speak,hehe.like "pnpdump > /etc/isapnp.conf"
   then you have to edit that file and set the irq and port and
   activate it.then run "isapnp /etc/isapnp.conf" and it should say
   that soundblaster something enabled..
   then there is a command in modutils that i can't remember right
   now,that sets that not to go away after reboot.i might be wrong..
   once the card is set up,then just issue "modprobe sb"
   or "insmod sb".mine it loads sb,mpu-401,soundcore,soundSOMETHING..
   so like 4 modules..
   i can't remember if you either edit /etc/modules.conf now or work
   with modutils to keep enable the sb modules autoloading after
   reboot..hmm...gotta get some lecithine :p
c yah,and gluck.

   Dani,
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Re: Shall I upgrade to Woody?

2001-10-17 Thread dman
On Wed, Oct 17, 2001 at 09:22:06PM +0200, Sigue wrote:
| I know this is a bit to generic question, and it has been probably already
| discussed a 1000 times,
| but I'm fairly new, so please forgive me if I ask it nevertheless.
| 
| Is there a big risk in upgrading to Woody now?
 ^^^
I don't think so.

| What speaks agains it?

Some things could be broken.  For example, right now X is.  However,
if you check the archives, the fix is as simple as deleting 2
characters from a one-line-long file.

| What is the main advantage in doing so?

Newer stuff.  For example, the GNOME in potato is 2 "major" revisions
behind (technically "minor", but they are significant -- not "micro").
There are also some stuff that doesn't exist in potato.

| Also to give a little more background to the question:
| I yesterday foolishly tried to experiment with adding some unoffical sources
| to the apt sources.list.

You can tweak your sources.list then run 'apt-get update' and your
local database will be "fixed".

| 1. Just checking. If I would want to upgrade to Woody, I'd need to add
| 'testing' or 'woody' to the sources.list,
| and then I'd need to issue 'apt-get dist-upgrade'?

'apt-get update' first
 
| 2. Is it possible to somehow delete the package database, and make apt
| reread the official ones from debian.org?

apt-get update


Sometimes I point my sources at sid.  Not all packages are in woody
(eg galeon, recent gnucash).  I adjust source.list, run 'apt-get
update' to update the database, 'apt-get install ' to install
foo, put sources.list back, run 'apt-get update' to update the
database.  This last "update" makes the woody stuff be the newest that
is known (aside from the installed stuff).

HTH,
-D



Re: galeon crashing - solutions so far?

2001-10-17 Thread Jeffrey W. Baker


On Wed, 17 Oct 2001, Rohan Deshpande wrote:

> Hey again,
>
> THe problems I am having are with plugins (java, realplayer, flash,
> etc.); when any plugin is called, galeon just quits.  It's annoying
> because these plugins are use a lot, and my browser just crashes in
> the middle of doing work.

I'm using the flash 5 plugin and it works fine.  Try disabling Java and
see if that fixes the problem.

If it does, try training yourself to do without Java in the browser.  It
really is an abomination.

-jwb



Re: Linux RAM drive support/performance

2001-10-17 Thread dman
On Wed, Oct 17, 2001 at 01:49:01PM -0400, Paul McHale wrote:
| 
| Does Linux support any RAM drive(s)?  How much faster are these drives over
| an attached drive?  Is there a CPU performance penalty?

According to the kernel FAQ, Linux ext2 implementation is fast enough
that it is not necessary to implement /tmp as a ramdisk.  Some systems
(they give stats, I think solaris is one of them) is much slower with
on-disk filesystems so Sun went with a ramdisk for performance with
temp files.  I don't think you'll get much, if any, performance boost
from using a ramdisk.  In the kernel config, look for "shm" (I think)
in the filesystem section.  If you press "help" on it you'll see a
discussion of tmpfs (the other name for it).  You can then mount it
with an entry in /etc/fstab.

HTH,
-D



Re: galeon crashing - solutions so far?

2001-10-17 Thread Rohan Deshpande
Hey again,

THe problems I am having are with plugins (java, realplayer, flash,
etc.); when any plugin is called, galeon just quits.  It's annoying
because these plugins are use a lot, and my browser just crashes in
the middle of doing work.

Cheers,
rohan



Re: galeon crashing - solutions so far?

2001-10-17 Thread Jeffrey W. Baker


On Wed, 17 Oct 2001, Rohan Deshpande wrote:

> Greetings all,
>
> Just wondering what those of you in unstable are doing with the current
> galeon problem.  Any idea when it will be fixed? Any solutions as of yet
> (besides compiling from source)?

It is working fine on my unstable machines.  What problems are you
having?

-jwb



galeon crashing - solutions so far?

2001-10-17 Thread Rohan Deshpande
Greetings all,

Just wondering what those of you in unstable are doing with the current
galeon problem.  Any idea when it will be fixed? Any solutions as of yet
(besides compiling from source)?

Cheers,
rohan



Re: Shall I upgrade to Woody?

2001-10-17 Thread Stephen Gran
Thus spake Sigue:

> Some related problems:
> 1. Just checking. If I would want to upgrade to Woody, I'd need to add
> 'testing' or 'woody' to the sources.list,
> and then I'd need to issue 'apt-get dist-upgrade'?

yes - just replace all instances of stable or potato with woody or
testing.  then apt-get update followed by apt-get dist-upgrade.

> 2. Is it possible to somehow delete the package database, and make apt
> reread the official ones from debian.org?

You can just comment out the unofficial sources in source.list, and
rerun apt-get update - this will readjust the pool to your
disitribution.

> 3. Is it possible to go back to the state in dselect before you started
> making selections?
> I know that i theory 'R' should go back to the state before the current
> selection, but sometimes it
> seems to get stuck in a loop and alway brings me back the same dependency
> screen.
> Also if I made several selections, but then change my mind and want to go
> back to the state where it was
> when I've started dselect, is this possible?

I believe, although I could be quite wrong, that once you apply the
changes you've selected, they stick in dselect.  You can always use dpkg
to remove the offending packages in the meantime.

Back to your starting question, though.  Potato is now at least a year
(and I think more) out of date, as it has been frozen (no new packages
added, merely bugfixes), so there are many advantages to changing
distributions in order to take advantage of newer software that won't be
available in potato.  However, testing means what it says, it's a work
in progress, and may break at the most inopportune moments.  I know -
has happened to me, usually when I have the least time for it.  But if
you have some background in this type of thing, or don't mind mucking
about in the guts of your OS, I think it's a pretty remarkable
distribution.   I'm pretty new to linux in general, and I'm managing,
although with some amount of bending of the collective ear on this list.
Good luck,
Steve

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> best regards,
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Re: gnome slowdown

2001-10-17 Thread Jeffrey W. Baker


On Wed, 17 Oct 2001, Frank Preut wrote:

> On Wed, Oct 17, 2001 at 03:02:09PM +0200, Frank Preut wrote:
> > hello,
> > after i finally solved my sound problems in gnome, the bugger is
> > gnawing at my nerves again.. now it slows down in a very haphazard
> > manner.. first of all it seems to start up slower than before..
> > secondly, applications might load normally but then take minutes to shut
> > down.. or they "sleep" for some 15 seconds or so before they continue..
> > the whole thing is very slow to respond most of the time.. i'm on
> > testing and i recently upgraded X to the infamous 4.1-7 release and my
> > kernel to 2.4.10-686 and i wonder whether anyone else is seeing this
> > kind of problem.. the machine (a pII-350 with 256M) isn't the fastest on
> > the planet but it was much more bearable before..

I just installed unstable freshly, including GNOME.  I noticed that GNOME
was *totally* useless if esd wasn't running.  Nautilus would hang for
15-30 seconds at a stretch, as would Galeon.  Logging out was impossible
or took a very long time.  Generally nothing worked properly.

After compiling and installing ALSA, apt-get installing esound, and adding
myself to group "audio", GNOME was clipping right along.

I think that GNOME should not depend on esound to run properly, especially
given that many people have no sound output device.

-jwb



Re: gnome slowdown

2001-10-17 Thread Frank Preut
On Wed, Oct 17, 2001 at 03:02:09PM +0200, Frank Preut wrote:
> hello,
>   after i finally solved my sound problems in gnome, the bugger is
> gnawing at my nerves again.. now it slows down in a very haphazard
> manner.. first of all it seems to start up slower than before..
> secondly, applications might load normally but then take minutes to shut
> down.. or they "sleep" for some 15 seconds or so before they continue..
> the whole thing is very slow to respond most of the time.. i'm on
> testing and i recently upgraded X to the infamous 4.1-7 release and my
> kernel to 2.4.10-686 and i wonder whether anyone else is seeing this
> kind of problem.. the machine (a pII-350 with 256M) isn't the fastest on
> the planet but it was much more bearable before..

argh, even my clock doesn't count correctly, it rather chooses
"arbitrary second-like intervals".. why me??

frank.


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Re: The right to sing along with an audio CD

2001-10-17 Thread martin f krafft
* Piet Knoester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2001.10.17 23:00:29+0200]:
> chmod /dev/hd? a+r

the right syntax would be chmod a+r /dev/hd?, but DON'T DO THIS.

the above works, but i doubt for multiple files...

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Re: The right to sing along with an audio CD

2001-10-17 Thread martin f krafft
* Paul 'Baloo' Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2001.10.17 14:03:04-0700]:
> Erk!  I should have followed that up with "replace ? with the
> appropriate drive letter or you will have bad things happen."  This
> would likely be hdc for most people.
 
I kind of misread the question - access to the CDROM drive seems to be
the problem. well, to listen to audio CDs, you need to be member of
the 'cdrom' group. To play WAV or MP3 files, you need to be member of
the 'audio' group. /dev/hdc, the CDROM drive for most people belongs
to group cdrom, so it is *not* necessary to give "others" read access.

therefore:

chmod o= /dev/hd?
vigr  # and add the user names (comma separated) after the audio
  # and cdrom groups...

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The right to sing along with an audio CD - Solution !!

2001-10-17 Thread Piet Knoester


On the command line


chmod /dev/hdd a+r

did the trick. As user I was already added to the group "audio".
I'am enyoing the music, thanks for the tips.

Greetings
Piet Knoester



Gnome Panel crashing all the time...

2001-10-17 Thread Chun Kit Edwin Lau
Hi,

Don't know if it is just me, I am using unstable and upgrade
recently.  And Gnome Panel just crashed a lot of the time when I exit
X window.  I don't have much info so far.  Just wondering if it is a
bug or just me

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debian-user@lists.debian.org

2001-10-17 Thread Gerhard Kroder

there is something wrong, isn't it?

README says:

>cd /usr/lib
>mkdir -p dosemu freedos
>ln -s ../freedos dosemu

my guess here: "mkdir -p dosemu/freedos; cd dosemu/freedos" before
linking?


Gehard



Re: The right to sing along with an audio CD

2001-10-17 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
On Wed, 17 Oct 2001, martin f krafft wrote:

> * Paul 'Baloo' Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2001.10.17 13:02:24-0700]:
> > chmod /dev/hd? a+r
>
>
> aaah! don't do this, unless you want your users to be
> able to read /etc/shadow.

Erk!  I should have followed that up with "replace ? with the
appropriate drive letter or you will have bad things happen."  This
would likely be hdc for most people.

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Re: booting W95 from a second harddrive with grub

2001-10-17 Thread Klaus Ade Johnstad
#this is to boot W95 from a slave/second harddrive, with GRUB
title  WIN95 boot menu
map (hd0) (hd1)
map (hd1) (hd0)
rootnoverify (hd1,0)
makeactive
chainloader  +1


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Default font does not display properly

2001-10-17 Thread descdata
Hi,

I have a problem with fonts generally and vim-gkt 
particularly, the initial screen has Roman crosses for 
tilde characters and boxes for normal characters. I have 
a similar problem with other applications, like AbiWord. 
Other applications display text fine, except for the 
About box, which shows squares.

I downloaded the source for vim and it appears that the 
default font string is “-adobe-courier-medium-r-normal-*-
14-*-*-*-m-*-*-*"
To narrow the problem, I wrote a small program and gave  
gtk_font_load the same string. The displayed text also 
showed squares. If I select a font in vim, or specify “-
adobe-courier-medium-r-normal-*-14-*-*-*-m-*-iso8859-*” 
in my toy program, text is displayed normally. 

I have read the recent post on font problems I have 
changed my FontPath per the suggestions, but to no 
avail. I’m using testing version xfree86-common 4.1.0-7, 
I have xfonts-100dpi, xfonts-75dpi, xfonts-base,  xfonts-
scalable, and xfonts-scalable-nonfree.

Does anyone have suggestions for fixing my font problems?

Gary Setter



Re: The right to sing along with an audio CD

2001-10-17 Thread Dave Sherohman
On Wed, Oct 17, 2001 at 01:02:24PM -0700, Paul 'Baloo' Johnson wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Oct 2001, Piet Knoester wrote:
> > On my potato box with kernel 2.2.19 most things work fine but not the
> > cdplayer. When I try to use a program to play an audio cd it gives an
> > error. When I do this as root my room is filled with lovely music. Looks
> > like a matter of rights but where do I have to do what.
> 
> chmod /dev/hd? a+r

Talk about killing a fly with a shotgun...

This solution would make all IDE drives world-readable as raw
devices, allowing enterprising users to sift through the contents of
your (IDE) hard drives to see such things as the contents of
/etc/shadow or any passwords that may have been stored in memory
which was subsequently swapped out to disk.

Yeah, it'll work, but (even on a single-user home system) do you
really want to open up all those extra holes?  Either just do the
CDROM device (usually /dev/hdc or /dev/hdd - check to see what
/dev/cdrom is linked to if you're not sure) or add your user account
to the audio group instead.

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Re: The right to sing along with an audio CD

2001-10-17 Thread martin f krafft
* Paul 'Baloo' Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2001.10.17 13:02:24-0700]:
> chmod /dev/hd? a+r


aaah! don't do this, unless you want your users to be
able to read /etc/shadow.

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Re: nvidia-kernel + 2.4.12...

2001-10-17 Thread Dimitri Maziuk
* Mart van de Wege ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) spake thusly:
> On Tue, 2001-10-16 at 23:24, Dimitri Maziuk wrote:
>  
> > I use 2.4.12 with nVidia drivers -- works just fine. I installed from
> > nVidia tarballs (plus devfs patch).
> > 
> > Does anyone know if/which debian packages overwrite nVidia's GL stuff?
> > 
> IIRC it was xlibosmesa or xlibmesag3, whichever is the one that does
> direct rendering. I could at least safely delete these from my sid
> install, and the nvidia modules satisfy the dependency.

Ok, so I should apt-get nvidia packages and remove mesa stuff.
Thanks.

Dima
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Re: nvidia-kernel + 2.4.12...

2001-10-17 Thread Dimitri Maziuk
* Michael C. Alonzo ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) spake thusly:
> On Tue, Oct 16, 2001 at 04:24:09PM -0500, Dimitri Maziuk wrote:
> > * David ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) spake thusly:
> > ...

... 
> 2.4.9 + 1541 = STABLE
> 2.4.12 + 1541 = stable with eterms except XTerm
> 
> whenever i close an Xterm, that's when X breaks
> 
> should i file this as a bug? or its just me?

Dunno, I've just installed xterm and tried it. Nothing breaks when
I close xterm (2.4.12 + 1451).

Dima
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Re: nvidia-kernel + 2.4.12...

2001-10-17 Thread Dimitri Maziuk
* Michael C. Alonzo ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) spake thusly:
> On Tue, Oct 16, 2001 at 04:24:09PM -0500, Dimitri Maziuk wrote:
> > * David ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) spake thusly:
> > ...
> > > I'm using 1541 + vesafb successfully so I doubt it's that.
> > > 
> > > Have you tried just grabbing the tarballs direct from nVidia's servers 
> > > and 
> > > installing them by hand?  Works everytime for me.  That said, I haven't 
> > > used 
> > > 2.4.12 - I'm languishing back in the "good ol' days" of 2.4.9 - not sure 
> > > if 
> > > that makes any difference.
> > 
> > I use 2.4.12 with nVidia drivers -- works just fine. I installed from
> > nVidia tarballs (plus devfs patch).
> 
> is there a devfs patch?

Yes.

Dima (ok, ok, http://www.google.com/search?q=nvidia+devfs+patch)
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Re: DSelect again

2001-10-17 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
On Wed, 17 Oct 2001, Reto wrote:

> Hi!
> Does DSelect log the installation anywhere? How else can I see, which
> package produces an "Internal Error"?

Nope.  If you get errors, leave dselect and tryp apt-get dselect-upgrade
and see what it does.

> How can I unselect everything but the packages already installed?

Go into dselect, and look for the stuff that doesn't have three
installed stars ahead of it and start hitting the purge key on those.

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Re: Help: SB16 & 'potato'

2001-10-17 Thread Joseph William Dixon
On Wed, 17 Oct 2001, Petre Daniel wrote:
> it's not hard.
> i have a creative sound blaster 16 myself.
> just do "modprobe sb" and you're all set.

  I'm surprised - that *did* work.  I had managed to get it working before
on a previous installation of potato I had by jumping through hoops with
insmod, isapnp and suchlike. [bad memory on my part - I have no idea these
days just what I finally did last time to get it to work :]

> i think you're supposed to edit /etc/modules.conf or /etc/conf.modules
> and add an alias for sb
> but i bet modutils can do that for you.

  I remember trying to do that before and ending up with a ton of
"/etc/modules.conf is newer than /lib/modules/2.2.19pre17/modules.dep"
errors [and vice-versa].

> good luck and don't forget "saytime" and "mpg123"

  First things I grabbed. :)

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nfs warning: mount version older than kernel

2001-10-17 Thread Matthew Garman

I've got two computers on a small home LAN.  One is my Debian
"workstation" and the other is an OpenBSD firewall/NAT "server."  I have
some NFS shares on the OpenBSD box which I would like to have mounted (on
the Debian system) at boot time.

So I have some entries in /etc/fstab like the following:

septictank:/wrk/mp3 /nfs/mp3 nfs 0 0

Where "septictank" is the name of the OpenBSD system.  When my system
boots, these shares are not mounted.  Doing a "dmesg" I noticed the
following line:

nfs warning: mount version older than kernel

However, I can mount these NFS shares manually by doing something such as
the following:

mount -t nfs septictank:/wrk/mp3 /nfs/mp3

I.e. doing it manually works fine.

Any thoughts here?
Matt

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Re: host name in e-mails reply-to field in mutt

2001-10-17 Thread Vineet Kumar
* Nicolau Werneck ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [011017 10:01]:
> hello...
> 
> I read my e-mails in an acount at yahoo, using mutt,
> and access it via a dial-in ISP.  Every now and then,
> my e-mails are rejected because the adderess
> "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" doen't exist.
> 
> "aquarius" is the hostname I've defined on my computer
> somewhere installing some software.
> 
> I've managed to make mutt use the "yahoo.com.br"
> hostname when I'm replying to e-mails I get from the
> yahoo pop server. But I can't find where to tell it
> that the hostname should be "yahoo.com.br" also on
> e-mails I send from my machine. What sould I do to get
> this thing working?

Others have suggested things to do to mutt; this can be a "good-enough"
solution. What is your MTA? Exim? Maybe you just need to add a line to
/etc/email-addresses to make it do the Right Thing and rewrite your
addresses for you on the way out.

> 
> I've losted a date with the girl of my dreams because
> of this, please help me! :)

Ah, just call her up and tell her that; she'll take you back. (but what
do I know?)

good times,

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strange error files

2001-10-17 Thread Jason Majors
I get strange empty error files in my root directory.
I have no idea what causes them.
Here's a listing:
-rw---1 root0 Oct 12 21:49 errs3IY3FQ
-rw---1 root0 Oct 15 20:56 errs83W4Qt
-rw---1 root0 Oct 16 22:48 errs8oJuts
-rw---1 root0 Oct 15 18:51 errs8yTgVd
-rw---1 root0 Oct 17 12:21 errsLuZWMg
-rw---1 root0 Oct 13 10:04 errsMaXwZ8
-rw---1 root0 Oct 17 12:58 errsN9XEXL
-rw---1 root0 Oct 12 17:49 errsU99Kg2
-rw---1 root0 Oct 14 08:20 errscI7gTQ
-rw---1 root0 Oct 11 22:23 errso6ELHV
-rw---1 root0 Oct 16 08:41 errsuicVx6

Does anybody have any idea how I can keep them from appearing?
Thanks,
Jason



Re: Any windowing system in text mode?

2001-10-17 Thread Matthew Garman
On Wed, Oct 17, 2001 at 06:00:44PM +0800, ramsubs wrote:
> If I wanted to write an app which runs on a pseudo windowing system in
> text mode, what tools do I use?  By this, I mean something similar to
> Foxpro for DOS which has a windowing system running in DOS mode where
> you can drag windows around, able to pop up dialog boxes, uses gpm-type
> mouse, and so on...

Do you want to use an existing toolkit for this "text gui" or are you
going to write your own?

If you're writing your own, you can do it all with (n)curses or s-lang.

MG

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Re: I've done it! Wanted SMP now I get Kernel Panic!

2001-10-17 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
On Wed, 17 Oct 2001, Mark Lanett wrote:

> When I have recompiled and installed my kernel, I get a new "LinuxOLD" entry
> in Lilo automatically. I guess the dpkg install step does it.

I'm running on the assumption that most people grab the official
tarballs off kernel.org, which sounds like is the case here, anyway.
Not sure at all what the Debian way is.

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Re: The right to sing along with an audio CD

2001-10-17 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
On Wed, 17 Oct 2001, Piet Knoester wrote:

> On my potato box with kernel 2.2.19 most things work fine but not the
> cdplayer. When I try to use a program to play an audio cd it gives an
> error. When I do this as root my room is filled with lovely music. Looks
> like a matter of rights but where do I have to do what.

chmod /dev/hd? a+r

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Re: The right to sing along with an audio CD

2001-10-17 Thread shöck

edit /etc/group and add yourself to the audio group.  like this:

audio:x:29:shock, fame

On Wed, 17 Oct 2001, Piet Knoester wrote:

> On my potato box with kernel 2.2.19 most things work fine but not the
> cdplayer. When I try to use a program to play an audio cd it gives an
> error. When I do this as root my room is filled with lovely music. Looks
> like a matter of rights but where do I have to do what.
>
> Has anyone a good suggestion.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Piet Knoester
>
>
>

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Re: How to stop the 'beeps'

2001-10-17 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
On Wed, 17 Oct 2001, Morbo wrote:

> Is it possible to stop the terminal windows from beeping every time I press
> tab where there are multiple
> matches etc.?

Well, there's always options for that but the easiest way from my
experiance is to pop the case and either flip the speaker jumper or
unplug the speaker.

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Re: The right to sing along with an audio CD

2001-10-17 Thread Jeffrey W. Baker


On Wed, 17 Oct 2001, Piet Knoester wrote:

> On my potato box with kernel 2.2.19 most things work fine but not the
> cdplayer. When I try to use a program to play an audio cd it gives an
> error. When I do this as root my room is filled with lovely music. Looks
> like a matter of rights but where do I have to do what.

Add yourself to the group "audio" or change the permissions on /dev/dsp*
and /var/run/esound/*.

-jwb



Re: The right to sing along with an audio CD

2001-10-17 Thread martin f krafft
* Piet Knoester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2001.10.17 21:31:07+0200]:
> On my potato box with kernel 2.2.19 most things work fine but not the 
> cdplayer. When I try to use a program to play an audio cd it gives an 
> error. When I do this as root my room is filled with lovely music. Looks 
> like a matter of rights but where do I have to do what.

try adding your user to the "audio" group with vigr...

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The right to sing along with an audio CD

2001-10-17 Thread Piet Knoester
On my potato box with kernel 2.2.19 most things work fine but not the 
cdplayer. When I try to use a program to play an audio cd it gives an 
error. When I do this as root my room is filled with lovely music. Looks 
like a matter of rights but where do I have to do what.


Has anyone a good suggestion.

Thanks in advance.

Piet Knoester



Re: GPL issues [Was: Old debian package source archive - where?]

2001-10-17 Thread Noah Meyerhans
On Wed, Oct 17, 2001 at 08:12:20PM +0100, Richard Davies wrote:
> 
> Putting on my devil's-advocate hat to troll for a minute, why isn't
> this GPL violation (or LGPL or whatever for this specific package)?
> 
> Given we've got separate binary and source packages, it would seem
> that we probably don't fall under the "accompany the work with the
> source code" clauses, in which case don't we have to be able to
> provide source for up to three years after we distribute any binaries?

But we do provide the human readable source to our packages.  It is all
fully available to you at the time that you download the binaries from
one of the Debian mirrors.  This allows us to distribute the source
under section 3a of the GPL v2.

If we wanted to ship binary-only cds, then we would fall under section
3b.  However, since we don't ship any cds at all, we don't have that
problem.

noah

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Shall I upgrade to Woody?

2001-10-17 Thread Sigue
I know this is a bit to generic question, and it has been probably already
discussed a 1000 times,
but I'm fairly new, so please forgive me if I ask it nevertheless.

Is there a big risk in upgrading to Woody now?
What speaks agains it?
What is the main advantage in doing so?

Also to give a little more background to the question:
I yesterday foolishly tried to experiment with adding some unoffical sources
to the apt sources.list.
Basically I wanted to get a recent Mozilla already packaged as deb.

I somehow didn't payed attenion while selecting, or else dselect
automatically has found and selected
severel nver versions of some basic packages, without me noticing, because
it installed several new
gnome packages etc.
Also suddenly some of the packages which were installed (e.g XMMS) claim to
be missing some
dependencies, which I can't find in the package list anywhere etc.
(Allthough it works - at least for mp3s)
I've also had trouble installing mozilla from tarballs. It was missing
libstdc++libc6.1-1.so.2 etc.

So the thought occured to me, that I could do an upgrade to Woody and get
the latest from everything...

Some related problems:
1. Just checking. If I would want to upgrade to Woody, I'd need to add
'testing' or 'woody' to the sources.list,
and then I'd need to issue 'apt-get dist-upgrade'?

2. Is it possible to somehow delete the package database, and make apt
reread the official ones from debian.org?

3. Is it possible to go back to the state in dselect before you started
making selections?
I know that i theory 'R' should go back to the state before the current
selection, but sometimes it
seems to get stuck in a loop and alway brings me back the same dependency
screen.
Also if I made several selections, but then change my mind and want to go
back to the state where it was
when I've started dselect, is this possible?

Many,many thanks for your help in advance!
best regards,
Balazs





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