Re: mozilla 0.9.5 on sid

2001-11-09 Thread Ian Patrick Thomas
On Fri, Nov 09, 2001 at 09:45:08PM -0500, Michael P. Soulier wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 09, 2001 at 08:09:24PM -0500, Jason Wojciechowski wrote:
> > 
> > This is the error that finally drove me back to Galeon... I found that I
> > loved it.  If you can't fix it or something, give it a shot, though
> > it'll require installing a bunch of gnome libraries just for that app, I
> > think it's worth it if you have the space.
> 
> I get no such errors from 0.9.5 and Sid, but I'm not using the .deb. I
> grabbed the binary tarball and installed it in my home directory. I have found
> that the mozilla and netscape packages in Debian never got along, so I don't
> use the mozilla .debs. Maybe when they're packaged better. 
> 
> Mike
> 
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> "...the word HACK is used as a verb to indicate a massive amount
> of nerd-like effort."  -Harley Hahn, A Student's Guide to Unix
I'm using the .deb from testing with absolutely no problem.  I
believe that I ran an apt-get dist-upgrade to unstable(sid) and then did an
apt-get install mozilla.  I also installed the psm .deb.  From what I've
experienced so far, 0.9.5 is pretty fast.  Not as fast as it is on Mac OS
X, but fast.
On an unrelated note, unstable has proven to be pretty stable.  I
also use FreeBSD quite a bit and Debian is the only GNU/Linux distro that
seems to run as smoothly.  If I could find a way to get apt/dpkg to tell me
each .deb I have installed like pkg_info on FreeBSD does, I would say both
OS's would be about equal in greatness.
 
Ian

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Re: Unable to umount filesystem whe shutting down

2001-11-09 Thread Akintayo Holder

Vittorio wrote:


This is the first time it happens to me!

Under woody I've compiled my own, very light kernel 2.4.13-1 (Bunk's
stuff) for my hardware eliminating many options I don't need.

Now, it all works ok (in syslog there isn't anything strange or
missing dependency warning) but when I shutdown woody hangs endlessly
to "unmounting filesystems" and I'm compelled to switch off
the PC. This causes a complete and annoying check of the partition
when booting again.

Why is that and what should I check?

Please help 


Vittorio





Check to see if mount works, I had the same problem when i upgraded from 
2.2.X to 2.4.X. It when away when I built 2.4.10 by hand. In short, I 
think you made a mistake in your kernel build and it should work if you 
rebuild.


FYI Woody unmounts remote filesystems before local


PEACE



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the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if 
you can't get them together again, there must be a reason.

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Re: A RH package won't work on Debian

2001-11-09 Thread Craig Dickson
Michael P. Soulier wrote:

> *snicker* 
> 
> Q. What does RedHat call their unstable tree? 
> A. A .0 release. 

I thought they called it Red Hat Linux.

Craig



Re: A RH package won't work on Debian

2001-11-09 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On Fri, Nov 09, 2001 at 08:14:45PM -0800, Paul 'Baloo' Johnson wrote:
> On 9 Nov 2001, Paul Smith wrote:
> 
> > Subject: A RH package won't work on Debian
> 
> This is normal.  It's a bug on Red Hat's side, as RH packages rarely
> work right on RH.

*snicker* 

Q. What does RedHat call their unstable tree? 
A. A .0 release. 

Mike

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Re: A RH package won't work on Debian

2001-11-09 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
On 9 Nov 2001, Paul Smith wrote:

> Subject: A RH package won't work on Debian

This is normal.  It's a bug on Red Hat's side, as RH packages rarely
work right on RH.

> I borrowed a laptop with vanilla RH 6.2, and brought it home, and it
> works fine.  Also if I boot my system into Windows and use the Windows
> version of the VPN client, that works fine.  I can even open up a
> Windows session in VMWare on my Linux system and use the Windows client
> through that, and _that_ works!

They probably have it compiled in some different version of whatever
libraries it uses than you use.  Or it's being anal retentive and only
going by the (brain-damaged) Red Hat locations for files from other
packages it depends on.

> I know it's an almost impossible long shot, but maybe someone here can
> give me some ideas of what to try or where to look?

I know that problem sometimes develops on Windows boxen when AIM, YIM,
AOL, Morpheus, or pretty much any other POS program decides to screw
with the winsocks, but that can't happen here...

-- 
Baloo



Re: Is it possible to install a few testing packages on a stable machine?

2001-11-09 Thread Colin Watson
On Fri, Nov 09, 2001 at 02:31:29PM -0800, Karsten M. Self wrote:
> on Fri, Nov 09, 2001 at 03:15:44PM -0500, Stan Brown ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
> wrote:
> > I'm trying to get abcde to work. Turns out that the version I have
> > (from progen) is broken. The developers of this package say the
> > version in testing is fine. Probelm is it depends on one more
> > package from testing.
> 
> File a bug report against stable.

That depends on how broken it is. Unless it's totally and utterly
screwed to the point where it's nothing but a waste of space, stable
won't be updated at this point, so filing bugs you know to be fixed in
testing doesn't really help.

If it *is* totally screwed, then you might be able to persuade the
release manager (via the package maintainer) to let a fixed version in.
However, you (Stan) referred to Progeny above, so I don't know if stable
is broken as well.

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Re: dpkg problem

2001-11-09 Thread Colin Watson
On Fri, Nov 09, 2001 at 02:16:53PM -0800, Karsten M. Self wrote:
> This is part of the textutils package.  Your package should have a
> depends on this.  If not, file a bug.

textutils is essential, so packages don't need to (and shouldn't) depend
on it unless the dependency is versioned.

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CR/LF even better

2001-11-09 Thread xucaen
#include 
#include 

using namespace std;

void process_file(int argc, char **argv);
void process_stdin();
void check_char(char &ch);

int main(int argc, char **argv)
{
if(argc > 1)
process_file(argc, argv);
else
process_stdin();
return 0;
}

void process_file(int argc, char **argv)
{
char ch;
queue tmp_q;
ifstream infile;
ofstream outfile;

for(int count=1; count < argc; ++count){
infile.open(argv[count]);
if(!infile){
cerr << "error opening input " << argv[count] << endl;
exit(1);
}
while(!infile.eof()){
infile.get(ch);
switch(ch){
case '\r':
break;
default:
tmp_q.push(ch);
}
}
infile.close();

outfile.open(argv[count]);
if(!outfile){
cerr << "error opening output " << argv[count] << endl;
exit(2);
}
while(!tmp_q.empty()){
outfile.put(tmp_q.front());
tmp_q.pop();
}
outfile.close();
}
}

void process_stdin()
{
char ch;

while(!cin.eof()){
cin.get(ch);
switch(ch){
case '\r':
 break;
default:
cout << ch;
}
}
}



A RH package won't work on Debian

2001-11-09 Thread Paul Smith
Here's a weird one, and I don't know that anyone can help but I can't
think of anything else to try.

So, I'm beta testing a new commercial VPN client for Linux.  The
official supported platforms are Red Hat (of course), plus Caldera and
Turbo Linux IIRC.  Others on the beta list have reported good success
with SuSe and Mandrake as well.

I'm the only one who can't get it working.  It completely, utterly does
not work on my Debian box.  Any of the three of them (2 desktops and a
laptop).

All my boxes are running Woody of some moderately recent vintage.

I borrowed a laptop with vanilla RH 6.2, and brought it home, and it
works fine.  Also if I boot my system into Windows and use the Windows
version of the VPN client, that works fine.  I can even open up a
Windows session in VMWare on my Linux system and use the Windows client
through that, and _that_ works!

I've tried installing Red Hat kernels (the client has two kernel modules
and two user-space daemons) on Debian. I've tried getting older versions
of LIBC and setting LD_PRELOAD etc. to cause the VPN user-space apps to
use them.  No change in behavior.

The thing _almost_ works: it connects to the VPN server, it installs
local static routes (for split tunneling), I can even resolve DNS
lookups from within the remote private LAN!

But, any attempt to actually connect, using any protocol I've tried,
simply hangs for a long time then times out.  Remember it works under
Windows in the exact same setup so it can't be a problem with my cable
modem or ISP or anything like that, or even firewalling (besides, to be
sure I completely disabled all my firewalls but it still failed).


I'm thoroughly baffled.  I just can't figure out what this thing might
be looking for or expecting on the Red Hat system that it doesn't find
or doesn't work the same way on Debian!  The support folks are similarly
baffled.

I know it's an almost impossible long shot, but maybe someone here can
give me some ideas of what to try or where to look?

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[Fwd: Re: Big time problem after disk crash]

2001-11-09 Thread calyth-shaw
"Karsten M. Self" wrote:

> on Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 03:23:22PM -0800, calyth-shaw ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
> wrote:
>
> > I was rebooting the system when it froze, right after sending the "wall"
> > message to all users that it's going to reboot. It resulted in an
> > unflushed disk cache reboot, and I know it was going to be massive.
>
> > Now I'm left with at least a problem in which X wouldn't start for my
> > regular user, yet it starts for the root user. I've tried to
> > dpkg-reconfigure xserver-common, and specify that anyone could start X
> > server, yet it still wouldn't start. I was using Gnome/Enlightenment.
> >
> > Can somone tell me what could be wrong so that I don't have to do a
> > fresh install?
>
> Boot single after a hard crash and fsck system disks.  Use the -f option
> to force checks even if the fs checks as clean.  You might also want to
> take the additional steps of adding a journaled filesystem (reiserfs or
> ext3fs) to your system.  I've added reiserfs to laptops I run, am trying
> to get ext3fs configured.
>

All partitions have been checked.

>
> Sounds though that your remaining problems are likely unrelated.
>
> The X problem sounds supiciously similar to several problems noted here.
> There's a quoting problem in one of the startup files, possibly
> /etc/X11/Xsession.d/99xfree86common_start, though I haven't been
> following the discussion properly.  Remove the double quotes if they
> exist.
>

No double quotes

>
> You might also check the contents of /etc/X11/Xserver.
>

That file have a couple lines. The first line leads to the path of X
itself
The second line says Console, so anyone on  Console could start X
Then the rest is comments about this file, but somehow they're not
denoted with a
# character. Could that cause problems?

>
> As always, watching program startup and error output is helpful.
>

When X quit by itself it looked fine. I've yet to check the logs and set
up the
error output to a file.

It seems that somehow anyone other than root can start X, but unable to
start
Gnome and Enlightenment. Do you have any ideas aobut how to correct
that, or at
least where should I look for problems?

PS Netscape Messenger is already set to wrap 72 characters, if you guys
do have problems reading e-mail, please let me know how to fix that.

Calyth



GLE libraries

2001-11-09 Thread Stephen Gran
Hello all,
I'm trying to compile the GLE libraries from source obtained at
http://www.linas.org/gle/ and I'm having a few problems.  The latest
version (3.0.5) fails to compile due to a makefile error (no rule to make
COPYING.src in all-am, I think), but 3.0.4 compiles and installs just
fine.  When I apt-get source xscreensaver and either do debian/rules
build or ./configure make, etc. it complains that it finds only the
headers but not the libraries for GLE.  The headers install into
/usr/local/include and the libs into /usr/local/lib, both of which
should be fine, but just to make sure after a few failures, I added
those paths to /etc/ld.so.conf and reran ldconfig.  Still nothing but
pain.  Before I start doing something stupid, anybody have any pointers,
or managed to get this going?  Pointing me towards something I've
missed, or even speaking very slowly in small words so that the deranged
man doesn't flinch, would be greatly appreciated.
TIA,
Steve
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A:  Stay awake and wonder if there's a dog.


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Re: mozilla 0.9.5 on sid

2001-11-09 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On Fri, Nov 09, 2001 at 08:09:24PM -0500, Jason Wojciechowski wrote:
> 
> This is the error that finally drove me back to Galeon... I found that I
> loved it.  If you can't fix it or something, give it a shot, though
> it'll require installing a bunch of gnome libraries just for that app, I
> think it's worth it if you have the space.

I get no such errors from 0.9.5 and Sid, but I'm not using the .deb. I
grabbed the binary tarball and installed it in my home directory. I have found
that the mozilla and netscape packages in Debian never got along, so I don't
use the mozilla .debs. Maybe when they're packaged better. 

Mike

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Re: Apt-get install removes?

2001-11-09 Thread Paolo Falcone

Iiro A K Jantunen wrote:

>Hi!
>
>I tried to install (upgrade) perl on my Debian Potato. What happened,
>was shocking to me.
>
>What was the problem? Why did install start such removing mayhem?
>
>I have used both potato and woody as sources for different packages. I had
>just commented woody out from /etc/apt/sources.list and apt-get updated.

Are the packages installed in your system dependent on perl or perl5?
AFAIK, the ones the system wants to deinstall are all dependent on
perl5. if i'm right, perl is older than perl5 (woody has 5.6, i
believe)

It's basically not a good idea to mix potato and woody .debs. Some
woody packages will break your potato box. If you really want to
use the new packages, I'd suggest you to upgrade to woody (apt-get
dist-upgrade) to update everything. Else, search the net for back-
ported packages for potato (this is what I did to get gcc-2.95.3 and
gcc-3.0.1 working in potato). 


Paolo Alexis Falcone

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CR/LF

2001-11-09 Thread xucaen
#include 

int main()
{
char ch;

while(!cin.eof() ){
cin.get(ch);
switch(ch){
case '\r':
break;
default:
cout << ch;
}
}

return 0;
}



Re: Gnus and SMTP?

2001-11-09 Thread DvB
Ole Sebastian Stein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I've been trying to get gnus speak smtp with my smtp-server, to avoid
> having a local MTA (exim, sendmail etc).
> 

In order to send mail directly through/get mail directly from my pop3
server account, I added the following lines to my .gnus file:

(setq nnmail-movemail-program 'nnmail-pop3-movemail)
(setq message-send-mail-function 'smtpmail-send-it)

I didn't have to add anything to my .emacs file.

HTH



debootstrap

2001-11-09 Thread Tom Allison

Where can I find LOTS of documentation on this debootstrap program?
It seems that this is being used to replace the old base*.tgz files that 
I'm so familiar with.


I'm trying to figure out how to do a remote installation with near zero 
direct access to a computer and this might simplify things a lot.


how does it work?



Re: No xpr on debian...

2001-11-09 Thread nate
Mike Fontenot said:
>
> The xwd man page (for dumping an image of an X window)
> gives a "see also" for xpr (for printing the resulting
> X window dump).
>
> But xpr doesn't exist on my 2.2r3 debian distribution.
>
> What's going on?  This is a fundamental capability...has
> xpr been replaced by something else to do this job?

doesn't look like its available on debian. as for fundamental
i can't imagine how it is. if it was it would be included.
i've been usin X and never heard of it in years. i work for
a company that does tons of X development(mostly X servers)
and ive never heard the program name mentioned(im not a developer
though) if you need it that bad i suggest grabbing the
source.. i checked a redhat machine(6.2) and it did not
have xpr either. so maybe its not part of xfree? i checked
a tru64, aix hpux and solaris systems and they had it. can't
imagine what i'd use it for judging by the look of the manpage
for it.

according to packages.debian.org its not in testing or unstable
either.


nate




Re: 2 doubts

2001-11-09 Thread Vitor Silva Souza

At 22:04 9/11/2001 +0530, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Dear members ,
  I have 2 doubts :
1) How do you take lilo out of MBR in a fully functional  Win-Lin 
dual-boot machine ?
2) How do you write (manually) either the Win 98 boot loader or the Win 
2K/Win NT

boot loader
to MBR ?


Seems like you want to use many different operating systems on the same 
machine, right? IMHO, best aproach now would be to download grub 
(www.gnu.org/software/grub), make a grub boot floppy, read the 
documentation (especially the examples) and install it. You'll not need any 
other bootloader ever again.




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Re: dpkg problem

2001-11-09 Thread Alan Shutko
"Karsten M. Self"  writes:

> This is part of the textutils package.  Your package should have a
> depends on this.  If not, file a bug.

textutils is essential, so the package doesn't need to declare a
dependency.

-- 
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Green light in A.M. for new projects.  Red light in P.M. for traffic tickets.



Re: mozilla 0.9.5 on sid

2001-11-09 Thread Jason Wojciechowski
Charles Baker wrote:

 | When I start mozilla 0.9.5 on sid I get an error
 | "Cannot create browser instance" I installed mozilla
 | via apt-get of the deb package. I'm currently running
 | 2.2.18 kernel and xfree 4.1 and windowmaker .70. I
 | tried to launch from the commandline in an eterm to
 | see any error output, but still only got that single
 | error message which pops up in an xwindow.

This is the error that finally drove me back to Galeon... I found that I
loved it.  If you can't fix it or something, give it a shot, though
it'll require installing a bunch of gnome libraries just for that app, I
think it's worth it if you have the space.

-Jason

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The lunatic, the lover, and the poet,
Are of imagination all compact...
-- Wm. Shakespeare, "A Midsummer Night's Dream"


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mozilla 0.9.5 on sid

2001-11-09 Thread Charles Baker
When I start mozilla 0.9.5 on sid I get an error
"Cannot create browser instance" I installed mozilla
via apt-get of the deb package. I'm currently running
2.2.18 kernel and xfree 4.1 and windowmaker .70. I
tried to launch from the commandline in an eterm to
see any error output, but still only got that single
error message which pops up in an xwindow.

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Gnus and SMTP?

2001-11-09 Thread Ole Sebastian Stein
I've been trying to get gnus speak smtp with my smtp-server, to avoid
having a local MTA (exim, sendmail etc).

I get the following error from gnus:
unknown extesion xverp
Sending failed; SMTP protocol error

I'm on a woody-box behind a firewall and an ADSL-modem.

In my .emacs I have:
(setq user-full-name "Ole Sebastian Stein")
(setq user-mail-address "[EMAIL PROTECTED]")
(setq smtpmail-default-smtp-server "mail.stud.ntnu.no")
(setq smtpmail-local-domain nil)
(setq send-mail-function 'smtpmail-send-it) (load-library "smtpmail")

and in my .gnus I have;
(load-library "message")
(setq message-send-mail-function 'smtpmail-send-it)


I've tried to have both the lisp-parts above in my .emacs, but that
doesn't do anything good.

-- 
Ole Sebastian Stein
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: No xpr on debian...

2001-11-09 Thread Erik Steffl
Mike Fontenot wrote:
> 
> The xwd man page (for dumping an image of an X window)
> gives a "see also" for xpr (for printing the resulting
> X window dump).
> 
> But xpr doesn't exist on my 2.2r3 debian distribution.
> 
> What's going on?  This is a fundamental capability...has
> xpr been replaced by something else to do this job?

  e.g. gimp can read xwd files, there's /usr/bin/xwdtopnm, I guess there
are other programs as well...

erik



Re: GTK for Mplayer?? (Possible issues w/ GTK & Ximian?)

2001-11-09 Thread Mike McGuire
This seems to be a problem with the Ximian packages, which I 
can't really help you with. But I can tell you that last I 
checked, the mplayer GUI is rather incomplete and uh, sucky. 
It didn't seem to do much but play, pause, and look nice. :) 
Maybe they've got it doing more by now, but IMHO it's not 
that necessary.

As for the issues with installing the gtk dev packages...

> Sorry, but the following packages have unmet
> dependencies:
>   libgtk1.2-dbg: Depends: libgtk1.2 (= 1.2.7-1) but
> 1.2.10-ximian.20 is to be installed
>   libgtk1.2-dev: Depends: libgtk1.2 (= 1.2.7-1) but
> 1.2.10-ximian.20 is to be installed
>  Depends: libglib1.2-dev but it is not
> going to be installed
> E: Sorry, broken packages
> 
> 
> That's what I got.. and also I'm running potato, and
> ximian on my machine.. can anyone help me so I can use
> GUI in mplayer?

...it seems to me that if Ximian ships a special version 
of libgtk1.2, they should do the same with libgtk1.2-dev.
Also, just try installing libgtk1.2-dev instead of gtk-1.2 
or whatever it was, that and what it depends on should be 
all you need.

Or wait for anyone who knows of any issues with Ximian on 
Potato with the gtk libs to speak up...

HTH,
Mike McGuire



Re: Mail retrieval / delivery

2001-11-09 Thread Craig Dickson
C Masters wrote:

> On Thursday 08 November 2001 15:08, Craig Dickson wrote:
>
> > Here's what I have set up:
> >
> > Incoming mail:
> >
> > On Debian #1, fetchmail, running from per-user crontabs, retrieves
> > our mail. (I want to change this to be a single system-wide fetchmail
> > running as a daemon, but I haven't got round to it yet.) It gives the
> > mail to exim, also running on Debian #1, which sends it to procmail
> > for filing. Our firewall blocks the SMTP port, so I don't have to
> > worry about anyone compromising my systems via some exim exploit, nor
> > do I have to worry about being an open relay for spammers.
> 
> Details on this setup would be ~greatly~ appreciated. I'd like to set 
> up fetchmail in daemon mode so that it runs continually, regardless of 
> whether anyone is currently logged on to this box. I've attempted to 
> set up exim, but that's more or less where my confidence evaporates.

Fetchmail's pretty easy to set up. Use the fetchmailconf X front-end to
create a ~/.fetchmailrc for yourself, which, to run as a system-wide
daemon, you will then need to move to /etc/fetchmail.

To get fetchmail working as a daemon after you've made your
/etc/fetchmailrc, edit /etc/default/fetchmail to make the following
changes:

SERVICE=true
RUNASROOT=true

Or leave RUNASROOT=false and set up a fetchmail user account for the
daemon to use. I haven't done that yet, though I should (it would help
protect my system against any exploits in fetchmail that might be
discovered and abused), so I can't tell you if there are any gotchas
involved.

Then, as root, execute /etc/init.d/fetchmail to start the daemon, and
check syslog for errors.

> I'm also on a DSL line that is always "up". I think I'd better stick to 
> using my ISP's smtp server. I take it that I would setup exim as a 
> smarthost then? Details also appreciated.

There is a script called eximconfig that can help you to get started. Do
the best you can with that, then read through /etc/exim/exim.conf and
see if you like the options it set. Ask this mailing list if any of it
is puzzling.

> > Debian #2 has ssmtp installed, which is just a simple mail forwarder
> > that I configured to send all mail to exim on Debian #1. The only
> > mail it sends, generally, is daemon errors mailed to root, which are
> > re- addressed to my account at Debian #1.
> 
> As I only have the one box, would I be able to include forwarding of 
> logs and/or internal mail between users in this setup?

If mail is sent to an unqualified username (i.e. no @domain specified),
exim will try to deliver it to a local account of that name. If the mail
is addressed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (where you is both your local username
and your username at your-isp.com), then my guess is that it will
probably be routed to your ISP's servers and back to you by default. You
should be able to set up a rewrite rule in exim to optimize that,
though.

I hope all this helps. Feel free to ask for more.

Craig



mailcap format code

2001-11-09 Thread ben
on loading netscape, i get the following message: 

Ignoring unsupported format code in mailcap file: %{

i've checked the mailcap man page, which suggests that format codes
begin with %{ are part of the scheme of things, and i've also checked
the mailcap file itself for any stray, unenclosed instance of %{, but
there are none. 

does anybody know what this is about and how to resolve it?



Re: tape drive problems

2001-11-09 Thread Kurt Lieber
I discovered the problem -- it turned out to be the SCSI chain wasn't 
correctly terminated.  (or it may have been because I was using passive 
termination -- I'm not sure)

I purchased a new internal SCSI cable with an active terminator and now it 
works fine.

Posting this here in the hopes it may help someone down the road.

--kurt

On Monday 05 November 2001 04:50 pm, Kurt Lieber wrote:
> I just installed an internal SCSI HP DDS3 drive and am having trouble
> getting it to work.
>
> If I put in a new tape and try to erase it receive the following error:
>
> z8:~/backup# mt -f /dev/st0 erase
> /dev/st0: Input/output error
>
> and the following shows up in the syslog:
>
> Nov  5 16:30:35 z8 kernel: st0: Error with sense data: Current st09:00: sns
> = 70  3
> Nov  5 16:30:35 z8 kernel: ASC=3b ASCQ= 0
> Nov  5 16:30:35 z8 kernel: Raw sense data:0x70 0x00 0x03 0x00 0x00 0x00
> 0x00 0x0e 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x3b 0x00 0x02 0x00 0x00 0xee 0x00 0x00 0x00
> 0x00



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Re: Ftp downloads for Linux running AMD K6

2001-11-09 Thread nate
 said:
> Could somebody please send me the URL of an FTP site from where I
> can download binaries (/bin variety and /sbin variety) for Linux
> running AMD K6  ?
>
> My machine shows up as i586 .

that is normal and expected.

it will work fine(i have a K6-3 thats been running for years)

if you want stability you should stick with the i586 or even
i486 binaries and not try to get k6 optimized ones.

nate





Re: intrusion detection / logfile reporter

2001-11-09 Thread Gary Hennigan
"Timo  Boewing" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Stephen E. Hargrove wrote:
> 
> > http://www.psionic.com/ has some good stuff - logcheck, portsentry
> > and
> 
> > hostsentry.
> >
> 
> 
> Hello Stephen,
> 
> Hey, that was *exactly* what i was looking for. When i have time, i
> will try these packages. When i am done, i will let the list know
> about my experiences; if anyone is interested, of course ;-)

Those tools are excellent, but there's also simpler stuff. I've used
logcheck in the past and it did everything I wanted. When I installed
it it came configured with pretty broad rules for what to look for and
report so I had to narrow them considerably, but it was quick and
simple. There are other similar utilities. Doing a

apt-cache search logfile

should give you some of those types of utilities.

Gary



Re: syslogd and iptables

2001-11-09 Thread Jeff
Raffaele Sandrini, 2001-Nov-09 19:13 +0100:
> Hi all,
> 
> what do i have to enter to the sylog.conf to split all the iptables messages 
> done by the LOG (-j LOG) target into another file than messages?
> 
> cheers,
> Raffaele
> -- 

syslog doesn't allow this functionality.  You need to replace it
with syslog-ng, which allows you to filter log messages and
direct them to specific destinations (files).  

With syslog-ng, look at /etc/syslog-ng/syslog-ng.conf and you'll
figure out how to filter to match your log prefix.

jc

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Re: dpkg problem

2001-11-09 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Thank you. I found only two "tr" files: one in /etc/X11/xkb/symbols/tr and
the other, actually a directory, in /usr/share/locale. So I decided that
before jumping to conclusions I would reinstall textutils, using "apt-get
--reinstall install textutils". After doing this, I had no problem with
fully installing locales and the package that had originally alerted me to
this problem.



Re: apt-get upgrade woes

2001-11-09 Thread J.H.M. Dassen \(Ray\)
On Fri, Nov 09, 2001 at 15:45:48 +, P Kirk wrote:
> Forgot the attachment.

> 6544  open("/usr/sbin/install-info", O_RDONLY|0x8000) = 4
> 6544  fstat64(0x4, 0x80f5c80)   = 0
> 6544  fstat64(0x4, 0xbfffd2ec)  = 0
> 6544  stat64(0x80fe5b0, 0x80f5ae0)  = 0
> 6544  link("/usr/info/dir", "/usr/info/dir.lock") = -1 EEXIST (File exists)

rm -f /usr/info/dir.lock and try again?
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Re: intrusion detection / logfile reporter

2001-11-09 Thread Stephen Gran
Thus spake Timo  Boewing:
> 
> Hello all,
> 
> I have some questions regarding system security. Besides of doing 
> filtering with IP tables, disabling inet.d services like telnet, r-tools 
> etc. and setting some general denials in /etc/hosts.deny (plus some 
> other stuff like changing default ports of some demons like sshd), I am 
> looking for some additional security options I can apply to a linux system.
> 
> Especially, I am looking for a not-too-paranoid-to-setup-tool that can 
> review my logfiles and report me via beep and/or local mail that it 
> found something unusual in a log. Does anyone know of such a tool?
Timo - 
Logcheck does that quite well, although it's default is to send a ton of
stuff.  It can be edited down to be more reasonable - I'm still going
through the manpages and whatnot to figure out what's worth it. I don't
know about your other questions.
HTH
Steve

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Re: exim question

2001-11-09 Thread Stephen Gran
Thus spake Karsten M. Self:
> on Thu, Nov 08, 2001 at 08:59:12PM -0500, Stephen Gran ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
> wrote:
> > Hello all - 
> > A strange thing, presumably of my own doing, just appeared.  I was
> > looking through apt-cache show, and I happened upon exim-tls, which is
> > exim with ssl support.  I decided that would be a great idea, so I
> > backed up my exim.conf, went ahead and installed it, restored my old
> > conf, and all seemed fine - a few test messages to different local
> > accounts and to a few email addresses all worked.  Great! success - but
> > I spoke too soon, I fear, because now all my headers end with a ^M -
> > never seen this before, and I'm not sure what to do about it.  It
> > doesn't show up in all MTA's either - balsa doesn't show it, but mutt
> > does.  I'm fairly sure it's an exim issue, though, because that's the
> > only thing that's changed.
> > Any ideas?  TIA,
> 
> Do you use fetchmail?  Known issue, there's a config file switch.
> 
> Check both exim and fetchmail for CR/LF conversion directives.

Karsten - 
Thanks - that was exactly it.  Fetchmail apparently strips CR only when
delivering to a named MDA - running it out of inetd apparently has it
leave the CR in.  Buried deep in the fetchmail manpage - line 1540 or
so.  Thanks again, I just assumed it was exim, because that was what had
changed.  Didn't even occur to me that it was the relationship between
exim and fetchmail.
Steve

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Re: Is it possible to install a few testing packages on a stable machine?

2001-11-09 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Fri, Nov 09, 2001 at 03:15:44PM -0500, Stan Brown ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> I'm trying to get abcde to work. Turns out that the version I have (from
> progen) is broken. The developers of this package say the version in testing
> is fine. Probelm is it depends on one more package from testing.

File a bug report against stable.

> Is there a way I can get this to work?

Yes.

> If so, how?

I strongly discourage split stable/unstable or stable/testing systems.
Debian exists largely to resolve package deps.  Suggested alternatives:

  - Upgrade your system(s) to testing or unstable.  For most purposes,
this works well.

  - Get your package source from the direct upstream source.  This
allows Debian to do what it does well:  manage the vast majority of
your system with minimal intervention on your part.

There are various pinning options.  They're relatively new, and I'd
recommend other alternatives in th meantime.

Peace.

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RE: Is it possible to install a few testing packages on a stable machine?

2001-11-09 Thread Kris Huber
Stan,

Here's a cut-and-paste-and-slightly-edited version of what I found about
almost the same question I asked on this reflector a week or two ago (see
thread "RE: cproto.deb for potato not available?"):

Scheme using newer version of apt-get than you probably have:
It seems the /etc/apt/preferences file is a feature not yet in the stable
release of apt-get (version 0.3.19).  I found some information about the
preferences file in a how-to document based on version 0.5.3 (chapter 3 of
http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/), although I was still a little
unclear about how to selectively upgrade a package using this feature.  My
guess is to use the example in the document for how to downgrade all
packages to the stable release versions, then insert a specific entry for
the latest version of, in my case, cproto.


This is what I did to grab the cproto package from the unstable distribution
(a little lower-level, but not too bad once in awhile).  Hopefully the
upgraded package you'll see in #3 won't be a package that will break other
things it depends on if you upgrade it.
1.  Added following line to sources.list:
deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free
2.  apt-get -s update
The -s (=--dry_run) above seemed to have no effect because the cproto
package *was* found in the next step (without update it is not found).
3.  apt-get -s install cproto
This showed me that apt-get would not upgrade or install any new packages
except for cproto.
4.  apt-get install cproto
This installed the new package.
5.  Commented out the line added in #1 
I did this so that the next 'apt-get upgrade' won't upgrade me to the
unstable release of all the packages I have installed.

-Kris

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From: Stan Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 1:16 PM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Is it possible to install a few testing packages on a stable
machine?


I'm trying to get abcde to work. Turns out that the version I have (from
progen) is broken. The developers of this package say the version in testing
is fine. Probelm is it depends on one more package from testing.

Is there a way I can get this to work?

If so, how?

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Re: exim question

2001-11-09 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Thu, Nov 08, 2001 at 08:59:12PM -0500, Stephen Gran ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:
> Hello all - 
> A strange thing, presumably of my own doing, just appeared.  I was
> looking through apt-cache show, and I happened upon exim-tls, which is
> exim with ssl support.  I decided that would be a great idea, so I
> backed up my exim.conf, went ahead and installed it, restored my old
> conf, and all seemed fine - a few test messages to different local
> accounts and to a few email addresses all worked.  Great! success - but
> I spoke too soon, I fear, because now all my headers end with a ^M -
> never seen this before, and I'm not sure what to do about it.  It
> doesn't show up in all MTA's either - balsa doesn't show it, but mutt
> does.  I'm fairly sure it's an exim issue, though, because that's the
> only thing that's changed.
> Any ideas?  TIA,

Do you use fetchmail?  Known issue, there's a config file switch.

Check both exim and fetchmail for CR/LF conversion directives.

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Re: dpkg problem

2001-11-09 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Fri, Nov 09, 2001 at 03:49:38PM -0600, Cheryl Homiak ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:
> I have a package that won't completely install or de-install. I think I
> know how it happened and have that problem fixed, but can't do anything
> with the package. I have tried to reinstall this package with all kinds
> of options
> and using dselect, dpkg and apt-get. When I use apt-get I get the
> following:
> /var/lib/dpkg/info/locales.config: tr: command not found

Locate the reference to 'tr' in this package.  Find out if and/or where
'tr' is on your system.  It should be:

/usr/bin/tr

This is part of the textutils package.  Your package should have a
depends on this.  If not, file a bug.

If necessary, change the install script, /var/lib/dpkg/info/locales.config, 
to point to the proper location for tr.

Peace.

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Re: Is it possible to install a few testing packages on a stable machine?

2001-11-09 Thread dman
On Fri, Nov 09, 2001 at 03:15:44PM -0500, Stan Brown wrote:
| I'm trying to get abcde to work. Turns out that the version I have (from
| progen) is broken. The developers of this package say the version in testing
| is fine. Probelm is it depends on one more package from testing.
| 
| Is there a way I can get this to work?

Yes.

| If so, how?

One of the following :

1)  Point a browser at packages.debian.org and download the desired
packages (and all deps) and run 'dpkg -i'.

2)  edit sources.list to point to woody,
'apt-get update && apt-get install '
put sources.list back
'apt-get update'

3)  get the new apt from woody (using (1) or (2)), then set
apt-preferences and simply 'apt-get install /'
(ie 'apt-get install abcde/testing')

HTH,
-D



Re: intrusion detection / logfile reporter

2001-11-09 Thread Timo Boewing

Stephen E. Hargrove wrote:



http://www.psionic.com/ has some good stuff - logcheck, portsentry and
hostsentry.



Hello Stephen,

Hey, that was *exactly* what i was looking for. When i have time, i will 
try these packages. When i am done, i will let the list know about my 
experiences; if anyone is interested, of course ;-)


see you,

Timo

P.S. thanx for the quick reply



dpkg problem

2001-11-09 Thread Cheryl Homiak
I have a package that won't completely install or de-install. I think I
know how it happened and have that problem fixed, but can't do anything
with the package. I have tried to reinstall this package with all kinds
of options
and using dselect, dpkg and apt-get. When I use apt-get I get the
following:
/var/lib/dpkg/info/locales.config: tr: command not found
/var/lib/dpkg/info/locales.postinst: tr: command not found
dpkg: error processing locales (--configure):
 subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 127
Errors were encountered while processing:
 locales
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)




Is there a way to get this package to either completely install or
uninstall? I know that this package ties in with others, so of course i am
concerned to fix it.




Re: Is it possible to install a few testing packages on a stable machine?

2001-11-09 Thread Thomas R. Shemanske
You could try changing your /etc/apt/sources.list to include woody, do 
an apt-get update , then a apt-get -s -u install abcde

to see what would happen

An alternative would be to try grip which I like even better than abcde



Stan Brown wrote:


I'm trying to get abcde to work. Turns out that the version I have (from
progen) is broken. The developers of this package say the version in testing
is fine. Probelm is it depends on one more package from testing.

Is there a way I can get this to work?

If so, how?





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Re: intrusion detection / logfile reporter

2001-11-09 Thread Stephen E. Hargrove
* Timo  Boewing ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) spake thusly:
> 
> Especially, I am looking for a not-too-paranoid-to-setup-tool that can 
> review my logfiles and report me via beep and/or local mail that it 
> found something unusual in a log. Does anyone know of such a tool?

http://www.psionic.com/ has some good stuff - logcheck, portsentry and
hostsentry.
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intrusion detection / logfile reporter

2001-11-09 Thread Timo Boewing

Hello all,

I have some questions regarding system security. Besides of doing 
filtering with IP tables, disabling inet.d services like telnet, r-tools 
etc. and setting some general denials in /etc/hosts.deny (plus some 
other stuff like changing default ports of some demons like sshd), I am 
looking for some additional security options I can apply to a linux system.


Especially, I am looking for a not-too-paranoid-to-setup-tool that can 
review my logfiles and report me via beep and/or local mail that it 
found something unusual in a log. Does anyone know of such a tool?


Second, as a more theoretical question, is there any open source project 
available that can inspect network packages on application level, e.g. 
to detect virusses etc. (like sandboxes on huge firewall systems).



I hope not to mix some termini, cos I am not that good in this network 
stuff...but I hope to learn from your answers. So do not hesitate to 
post answers 8^).


Greetings and have a nice weekend,

Timo



Re: Auto login ...

2001-11-09 Thread nate
=?iso-8859-1?q?Steve=20Kieu?= said:
>
> Hi,
>
> Is there a way to auto login using a specified user
> name and password to a remote machine? I read rsh,
> telnet manpages and found nothing, it specify -l
> user_name but how about sending password?

i do it with ssh. especially with rsync its pretty much
a requirement. with potato's SSH you can use RSA authentication
using either passphraseless RSA keys or keys that have pass
phrases but use ssh-agent to pass along the passphrase to the
key when you boot the machine.

if your interested, look for docs on how to setup RSA authentcation
with SSH. there should be plenty of info available.

nate






Re: Auto login ...

2001-11-09 Thread xbud
umm don't use rsh or telnet 
use ssh and use RSA Authentication to login w/out a password.
ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
etc..
www.openssl.org
www.openssh.org
-xbud



Auto login ...

2001-11-09 Thread Steve Kieu

Hi,

Is there a way to auto login using a specified user
name and password to a remote machine? I read rsh,
telnet manpages and found nothing, it specify -l
user_name but how about sending password? 



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Re: POP over SSL

2001-11-09 Thread Alexander Wallace
THank you! I'll check it out.


On Fri, 9 Nov 2001, martin f krafft wrote:

> * Alexander Wallace <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2001.11.09 09:12:20-0600]:
> > I guess I should have been more specific, I have a debian server that is
> > my pop server, and a debian desktop in which I use evolution or other mail
> > clients, and I would like to connect over ssl, evolution has the option,
> > but i don't know what I need to install in the server to be able to do
> > it... Will fetchmail-ssl do that to?
> 
> no.
> either get courier-pop3, which provides a native ssl-speaking POP3
> server, or set up stunnel (and bind your pop3 server to localhost
> only) to decrypt and redirect connections to port 995 to
> localhost:110.
> 
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Re: apt-get download for remote machine

2001-11-09 Thread Thorsten Gunkel
On Fri, Nov 09, 2001 at 01:35:22PM -0500, Thomas R. Shemanske wrote:
> I have a very slow internet connection at home, but a fast one at
> work.
> What I would like to do is an apt-get update on the home machine,
> take some ouputted list of files which need to be updated, use the
> machine at work to download those on the list, and transfer the files
> (say via CD, zip or other media) back home and place them in
> /var/cache/apt/archives, making apt-get happy.
> I am not sure how to generate the list, or get apt-get or wget to act
> on this.  Any ideas?

Yes RTFM :-)
/usr/share/doc/apt/offline.*
 
> Thanks
> Tom

Thorsten



Re: 2 doubts

2001-11-09 Thread ben
for windows, get to a dos prompt and use fdisk /mbr. that will restore
the original windows loader. i remember trying to do that rewrite on an
NT box years ago but ending up having to do a full reinstall. your
question begs another. why would you want to do that? since lilo will
give you  options that MS loaders won't, why not simply leave it there?



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> Dear members ,
>   I have 2 doubts :
> 1) How do you take lilo out of MBR in a fully functional  Win-Lin dual-boot 
> machine ?
> 2) How do you write (manually) either the Win 98 boot loader or the Win 
> 2K/Win NT
> boot loader
> to MBR ?
> 
> Thanks ,
> ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
> Shyam
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Re: OT: 3Ware vs. Promise

2001-11-09 Thread Matthew Sackman
On Thu, Nov 08, 2001 at 03:36:28PM -0800, nate wrote:
> David Priban said:
> > What exactly is the issue you are talking about?
> > I was just about to build a system using 6410 raid 5 :(
> >
> > Also couple of weeks ago 3ware announced it is going to
> > discontinue Escalade line of products. This makes me wonder
> > if this issue will ever get fixed.
> > Just checking 3ware website and the announcement is not there
> > any more. Just a broken link. I really hope they changed
> > their minds...
> 
> 
> well i don't know how to describe it. for a long time they had
> me confused wether it was IBM 75GXP drives causing problems or
> 3ware(turned out it was both). the western regional sales guy
> called me(and my boss) a couple months ago(at the request of
> my vendor) and told me the situation. not much details other then
> there is a known problem in the raid5 implimentation on all of
> their cards. they thought they had it fixed in the 7000 series
> which i recieved one, only to be later told do NOT use it as it
> apparently had a worse problem. one of my systems completely crapped
> out, and we dropped it off at the vendor, 3ware cameon site and looked at 
> it(don't know what they did), they said
> they will have a fix soon(this was back in september), last
> i heard the fix was due mid november 2001. that to me doesn't
> mean it will work though. i have since switched from 4x80GB
> maxtors in RAID5 (was originally 4x75GB IBMs) to 6x80GB
> maxtors in raid 10. i asked my vendor to let me know in 6 months
> if the raid5 stuff on 3ware works and i will switch back
> then if it does.
> 
> the people at 3ware will probably admit to you if you contact
> them of the problem in raid5 i don't believe they are trying
> to keep it secret. their raid10 and raid0 systems apparently
> have been in running/production for about 18 months longer
> then raid5 and have no known problems.
> 
> i don't know the details of the problem in raid5 and can't
> really describe the symtoms as what i was suffering from was
> crappy disks(75GXP, had 5 fail in 30 days), and the raid
> card itself.

I remember reading about these problems a little while back when I was
considering using the 3ware raid cards - I too was very interested in
RAID 5. I may however got this mixed up with Promise - check reviews of
the cards for full accuracy!

From what I can remember, 3ware originally designed the cards for RAID
0, 1, 10 only. The hardware on the card can do these modes well and fast
as it is done properly in the logic on the card.

They then realised that the demand for RAID 5 was great and so kludged
together a software version - the XOR calculations were done by the
embedded OS on the card rather than the raw logic. Thus the performance
is much worse. Since then they've always been tweaking it to try to get
it to work properly - and as we've heard, it doesn't.

If you're going to be setting up a dedicated fileserver then you will
probably not get a severe performance hit if you just use software RAID
5 in the kernel - i've been using it here for some months with no
problems: just follow the HOWTOs and it's not really too difficult to
set up.

If you can afford it then go for a SCSI solution - it'll work. :-)

Matthew

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Re: POP over SSL

2001-11-09 Thread Alexander Wallace
Thanks! I'm trying to have an ssl enabled pop3 server, I'll look at those
links you sent me! Thanks!

On Thu, 8 Nov 2001, Alvin Oga wrote:

> 
> hi ya alexander..
> 
> are you building a ssl-enabled pop3s server ??
>   - telnet localhost 995
>   ( if it connects you already have a secure pop3s server
> 
> are you trying to read (pop) your email from a pop3s server??
>   - see if your client email app has a "enable SSL" button
>   ( eg..netscape-6 has the option
> 
> i dont know which pop3s servers and clients has been debianized
> 
> for the rest of the secure pop3 servers and clients
>   http://www.Linux-Sec.net/Mail/secure_pop3.txt
> 
> have fun
> alvin
> 
> On Thu, 8 Nov 2001, Alexander Wallace wrote:
> 
> > Hello there! 
> > 
> > What is the package I need to apt-get to be able to connect to my server
> > using SSL?
> > 
> > Thanks!
> > 
> > 
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Re: POP over SSL

2001-11-09 Thread martin f krafft
* Alexander Wallace <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2001.11.09 09:12:20-0600]:
> I guess I should have been more specific, I have a debian server that is
> my pop server, and a debian desktop in which I use evolution or other mail
> clients, and I would like to connect over ssl, evolution has the option,
> but i don't know what I need to install in the server to be able to do
> it... Will fetchmail-ssl do that to?

no.
either get courier-pop3, which provides a native ssl-speaking POP3
server, or set up stunnel (and bind your pop3 server to localhost
only) to decrypt and redirect connections to port 995 to
localhost:110.

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Re: GCC packages fighting amongst themselves?

2001-11-09 Thread Phil Edwards
On Fri, Nov 09, 2001 at 08:12:17PM +, Neil Booth wrote:
> > (Ironically, the reason I want to get rid of gcc-2.95 entirely and use
> > only gcc-3.x is that I'm a GCC maintainer, and want to do lots of testing
> > with the 3.x series.  If the solution to this dependancy mess involves
> > destroying gcc-doc, that's fine with me; I have many copies of the GCC
> > manual already.  :-)
> 
> Takes two to tango 8-).  I just let CVS GCC install itself in
> usr/local after a "make install", and then it's first on the path
> anyway.

Same here, I just like having apt-get bring me to new versions.  :-)

My solution was to cringe and do a mass uninstall of all the task-*
packages that were interfering, or looked like they might interfere, or
looked like they might have children that could someday interfere, etc.
(As an old-school Linux user, watching the kernel sources being removed
is a big-time sweaty-hands moment.)  Then I reinstalled all the real
packages individually.  No conflicts, whee.

I had forgotten that task-*'s were just fake packages.  I'd installed them
when I firt started using Debian.  Thanks all for reminding me!


Phil
P.S.- Side question:  is there a "system package auditing" tool, akin to
pkgchk(8) on Solaris?  Something that takes the list of installed packages
and checks that none of the files have been hand-deleted, etc?

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Re: Mouse wheel in potato...

2001-11-09 Thread Alexander Wallace
Thanks! That worked, but needed to remove the emulate3buttons to get it to
work... 

Thanks to everyoune who offered help! 

On Thu, 8 Nov 2001, Rafael Sasaki wrote:

> On Thu, Nov 08, 2001 at 08:13:03AM -0600, Alexander Wallace wrote:
> > Hello there! Could someone tell me what needs to be in /etc/X11/XF86Config
> > to enable the mouse wheel in the X that comes with potato?
> 
> Hello,
>   just put the line:
> 
>   ZAxisMapping4 5
> 
> on the Section "Pointer" of the file XF86Config. Worked fine to me.
> 
> HTH,
>   Rafael Sasaki
> 
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Is it possible to install a few testing packages on a stable machine?

2001-11-09 Thread Stan Brown
I'm trying to get abcde to work. Turns out that the version I have (from
progen) is broken. The developers of this package say the version in testing
is fine. Probelm is it depends on one more package from testing.

Is there a way I can get this to work?

If so, how?

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Re: POP over SSL

2001-11-09 Thread Alexander Wallace

I guess I should have been more specific, I have a debian server that is
my pop server, and a debian desktop in which I use evolution or other mail
clients, and I would like to connect over ssl, evolution has the option,
but i don't know what I need to install in the server to be able to do
it... Will fetchmail-ssl do that to?

Thanks!

On Thu, 8 Nov 2001, Stephen Gran wrote:

> Thus spake Alexander Wallace:
> > Hello there! 
> > 
> > What is the package I need to apt-get to be able to connect to my server
> > using SSL?
> > 
> > Thanks!
> apt-get install fetchmail-ssl should do the trick.
> Good luck,
> Steve
> 
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>   Anything that begins well will end badly.
>   (Note: The converse of Pudder's law is not true.)
> 



Re: GCC packages fighting amongst themselves?

2001-11-09 Thread Neil Booth
> (Ironically, the reason I want to get rid of gcc-2.95 entirely and use
> only gcc-3.x is that I'm a GCC maintainer, and want to do lots of testing
> with the 3.x series.  If the solution to this dependancy mess involves
> destroying gcc-doc, that's fine with me; I have many copies of the GCC
> manual already.  :-)

Takes two to tango 8-).  I just let CVS GCC install itself in
usr/local after a "make install", and then it's first on the path
anyway.

Neil.



Re: apt-get download for remote machine

2001-11-09 Thread Horacio de Oro
On Fri, 09 Nov 2001 13:35:22 -0500
"Thomas R. Shemanske" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

apt-zip does that.


> I have a very slow internet connection at home, but a fast one at
> work.
> 
> What I would like to do is an apt-get update on the home machine,
> take some ouputted list of files which need to be updated, use the
> machine at work to download those on the list, and transfer the files
> (say via CD, zip or other media) back home and place them in
> /var/cache/apt/archives, making apt-get happy.
> 
> I am not sure how to generate the list, or get apt-get or wget to act
> on this.  Any ideas?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Tom
> 
> 
> -- 



Re: Help

2001-11-09 Thread Colin Watson
On Fri, Nov 09, 2001 at 02:12:17PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I have contacted the site you have placed a page holder on. I have
> been able to reach this site as recently as !!/3/01 in A.M. By P.M.
> this page was installed. I contacted the Web Master about your site's
> block. They don't know why. I need help. Neither I nor the site I am
> trying to reach knows why your placeholder page comes up. Please let
> me know what I need to do.

Hello,

The site you are looking at probably contains the default index page
from an installation of the Debian Apache package. We haven't placed any
kind of placeholder or block there; perhaps the webmaster has upgraded
the Apache package and neglected to make sure that it still works.

I'm afraid there's nothing that anyone at Debian can do to help you
directly. It's the webmaster's job to find out what the problem is. I'd
suggest that he should look in /var/www/index.html as a first try.

Regards,

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Re: Apt-get install removes?

2001-11-09 Thread Colin Watson
On Fri, Nov 09, 2001 at 09:01:08PM +0200, Iiro A K Jantunen wrote:
> I tried to install (upgrade) perl on my Debian Potato. What happened,
> was shocking to me.

Looks like you tried to upgrade potato's perl to the perl from testing.
'apt-get install' won't make good decisions if you try that, as you have
to upgrade other parts of your system to match. Use 'apt-get
dist-upgrade' or dselect instead.

> What was the problem? Why did install start such removing mayhem?

Conflicts.

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Re: Netscape in different desks with fvwm2

2001-11-09 Thread Mike Fontenot

Many thanks to Erdmut Pfeifer for a very
informative response!  I'll try that suggestion
ASAP.

One possible show-stopper: I tried dragging the
Messenger window to another desktop, by using
the 2nd mouse button within the pager window.
It worked, but all pop-ups triggered by my
use of the Messenger window popped up in the
original Navigator window. (I'm using no
virtual pages (1x1), just a pure multiple
desktop setup.  Earlier, I used a 3x3 setup,
and when I moved the Messenger window into
an adjacent page by just "pushing through
the edge", the popup problem didn't occur.)

Mike Fontenot
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Here's Erdmut's posting, for context:
__

just an idea: there's a not too well advertised "-remote" option
to Netscape that can be used to issue commands to be executed in an
*already running* instance of Netscape. So, I assume something like

  netscape -remote 'openInbox()'

should have the desired effect, presuming you know how to have fvwm2
open the resulting new window on a different desktop (which you seem to
have figured out already :)

BTW, similarly, commands like

  netscape -remote 'openURL(http://www.debian.org)'

considerably speed up startup times when trying to open HTML documents
from the commandline, as this avoids launching another instance of
Netscape.

For details see

http://home.netscape.com/newsref/std/x-remote.html

and have a look at Netscape's X-resources file Netscape.ad for further
ideas on what you might want to control remotely -- just in case you
start liking that feature :) 

Cheers

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Running DirectX Games using Linux OS

2001-11-09 Thread Lambrecht, Joris
Hi all,

I've been off the thread for some time but ...


Just to let you all know that http://www.transgaming.com/ is offering WineX
wich it claims (and has had some good reports allready) to enable windows
games to run on top of Linux. Hopefully this will be incorporated into the
Debian distro soon ;)

An almost final bye bye to W2k (darned canon scanner, anyone up for buying
one ? i live in belgium/antwerp)


Regards,

Joris



Re: weird nvidia problem in unstable

2001-11-09 Thread Dominique Deleris
On Mon, 5 Nov 2001 09:46:13 -0500, Mental <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

 Mental> Hello, I've run accross an odd condition on my debian (unstable) box. 
It
 Mental> seems that Quake3 is no longer textured properly on my geforce card. 
The
 Mental> game starts fine. Menu's look ok. Startup screen loads fine, but in 
game,
 Mental> textures are completely wrong. I've reinstalled my GLX and kernel 
drivers.
 Mental> I've checked for conflicting libs. Unreal Tournament works fine. Prboom
 Mental> works fine in GL mode. Quakeforge is fine also. Rune (ported by loki) 
has
 Mental> the same problem as quake3. 

 Mental> I rebooted, quake3 is fine in windows. I thought maybe it was a card 
issue
 Mental> and swapped in a brand new card. Same problem. 

 Mental> Is this related (or could it be) to the libsdl re-arangement? I'm kind 
of
 Mental> at wits end with it. My next step is to reinstall suse 7.2 and see if I
 Mental> get the same probelem. I know I had everything with SuSE, so its my 
'last
 Mental> known good' configuration. 

 Mental> I believe this weird behavior happened with my last apt-get upgrade, 
but
 Mental> I'm not %100 sure and I dont even remember what got upgraded. Anyone 
have
 Mental> any advice?

I have the same problem today in Woody (testing).

Any idea? Was the problem solved?

Kind regards,

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iiBCS Emulator Modules for Linux

2001-11-09 Thread Amir Bukhari
 halla all,

when I try to compile iBCS, i become compiling error this error it not
normal because it said that the most of the /usr/include/linux/*.h has
syntax..,

for example:

 c39a:/usr/src/modules/ibcs-2.2/iBCSemul# make
gcc -D__KERNEL__ -DMODULE -D__NO_VERSION__ -I../include -I/include -Wall -Ws
trict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -m486 -DSOCKSYS_MAJOR=30  -DEMU_SC
O -DEMU_ISC -DEMU_SVR4 -DEMU_BSD -DEMU_WYSE -DEMU_WYSEMP -DEMU_SPX -DEMU_XTI
 -DEMU_TLI_OPTMGMT -DEMU_BINFMT_AOUT -DEMU_BINFMT_COFF -DEMU_BINFMT_XOUT -DE
MU_BINFMT_OLDSCRIPT -DIBCS_TRACE -DVERBOSE_ERRORS -DCOFF_TRACE -DELF_TRACE -
DXOUT_DEBUG   -c emulate.c
In file included from /usr/include/linux/sched.h:13,
 from /usr/include/asm/uaccess.h:8,
 from emulate.c:36:
/usr/include/linux/times.h:5: parse error before `clock_t'
/usr/include/linux/times.h:5: warning: no semicolon at end of struct or
union
/usr/include/linux/times.h:6: warning: data definition has no type or
storage class
/usr/include/linux/times.h:7: parse error before `tms_cutime'
/usr/include/linux/times.h:7: warning: data definition has no type or
storage class
/usr/include/linux/times.h:8: parse error before `tms_cstime'
/usr/include/linux/times.h:8: warning: data definition has no type or
storage class
In file included from /usr/include/linux/timex.h:142,
 from /usr/include/linux/sched.h:14,
 from /usr/include/asm/uaccess.h:8,
 from emulate.c:36:
/usr/include/linux/time.h:10: parse error before `time_t'
/usr/include/linux/time.h:10: warning: no semicolon at end of struct or
union
/usr/include/linux/time.h:12: parse error before `}'
/usr/include/linux/time.h: In function `timespec_to_jiffies':
/usr/include/linux/time.h:32: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type
/usr/include/linux/time.h:33: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type
/usr/include/linux/time.h: In function `jiffies_to_timespec':
/usr/include/linux/time.h:45: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type
/usr/include/linux/time.h:46: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type
/usr/include/linux/time.h: At top level:

-

If somebody have an idea please contact me or if you know another emulator
for linux to non-linux binary.


Amir



Re: Which installer? Aptitude, dselect deity...

2001-11-09 Thread Phillip Deackes
On Thu, 8 Nov 2001 20:53:51 -0800
Craig Dickson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Since you recommended it, I installed and took a look at stormpkg. My
> first impression is that it doesn't give me as much information as
> dselect, and makes it harder to get at. For one thing, I have several
> Python packages marked "hold" currently because of the ongoing
> transition in Sid, but stormpkg doesn't show me that they're on hold.
> Also, like aptitude, stormpkg doesn't seem to call my attention to
> things that need upgrading the way dselect does; there's no single place
> where all the packages that can be updated are listed. Nor does stormpkg
> give me any indication of packages that are installed on my system, but
> which are no longer in the package repository.
> 
> Am I just missing something here? If I can get these things from
> stormpkg, then fine, but if not, then I don't think much of it.

No, I don't think you are missing anything. I have no need for any of the
requirements you mention, so I find it excellent for my needs. I don't
think you will find any single utility which does everything you want.

All I ever do with apt-get is 'apt-get update', 'apt-get install ' or
'apt-get -u dist-upgrade'. My needs are simple!!

I find GUIs for apt or dselect rather confusing - Gnome Apt is a nightmare
for me. I prefer the simplicity of Stormpkg - the only thing which comes
close is KPackage, but this is a front-end to dpkg rather than apt or
dselect.

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Re: Help

2001-11-09 Thread Dimitri Maziuk

> I have contacted the site you have placed a page holder on. I have been able 
> to
> reach this site as recently as !!/3/01 in A.M. By P.M. this page was 
> installed.
> I contacted the Web Master about your site's block. They don't know why. I 
> need
> help. Neither I nor the site I am trying to reach knows why your placeholder
> page comes up. Please let me know what I need to do.

Kids, who taught MegaHal to use e-mail?

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Re: cannot set DISPLAY from remote machine

2001-11-09 Thread Casey Webster
/etc/X11/xdm/Xservers, find the line that says

:0 blah blah

and take off the -nolisten tcp option from that line, then restart XDM.
next time you logon, you will be able to connect to your machine remotely
with X.


On Fri, Nov 09, 2001 at 06:58:10PM +0100, Steffen Evers wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 09, 2001 at 09:31, Lars Jensen wrote:
> > Recently I installed woody on three machines and I am having the same
> > problem on all of them: 
> > 
> > When I try to export DISPLAY from a remote machine to any of the 
> > three woody machines I get the error:
> > 
> > _X11TransSocketINETConnect: Can't connect: errno = 111
> > 
> > (I did not forget to do the xhost + to allow access).
> > 
> > What is the problem here? -I didn't have this problem with potato. Did I
> > overlook something in the installation of XFree 4 ?
> As fare as I can remember XF 4 has tcp/ip listing off by default. I
> guess you have set this during the configuration. You have to turn this
> on again, otherwise it does not work.
> 
> I cannot remember which package it was that you have to dpkg-reconfigure
> ...
> 
> Someone else?
> 
> Bye, Steffen
> 
> 
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Help

2001-11-09 Thread HFaisal
I have contacted the site you have placed a page holder on. I have been able to reach this site as recently as !!/3/01 in A.M. By P.M. this page was installed. I contacted the Web Master about your site's block. They don't know why. I need help. Neither I nor the site I am trying to reach knows why your placeholder page comes up. Please let me know what I need to do.


Apt-get install removes?

2001-11-09 Thread Iiro A K Jantunen
Hi!

I tried to install (upgrade) perl on my Debian Potato. What happened,
was shocking to me.

What was the problem? Why did install start such removing mayhem?

I have used both potato and woody as sources for different packages. I had
just commented woody out from /etc/apt/sources.list and apt-get updated.

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
root:~# apt-get install perl
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  auctex debconf eperl esound esound-common gnome-bin gnome-card-games
  gnome-guile gnome-print gnumeric gnuplot gtop html2ps
libcompress-zlib-perl
  libcurses-perl libesd0 libglade-gnome0 libgnome32 libgnomesupport0
  libgnomeui32 libgnorba27 libgnorbagtk0 libgtk-perl libguilegtk0
  libhtml-parser-perl libmime-base64-perl libpgperl libsdl1.0 libsmpeg0
  libterm-readkey-perl libtime-hires-perl liburi-perl libwww-perl lynx mon
  perl-5.005 perl-5.005-base perl-tk perlmagick perlmenu smpeg-gtv
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  perl
0 packages upgraded, 1 newly installed, 42 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
Need to get 904B of archives. After unpacking 36.5MB will be freed.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n]
Get:1 ftp://ftp.fi.debian.org potato/main perl 5.004.05-2 [904B]
Fetched 904B in 0s (5919B/s)
(Reading database ... 51929 files and directories currently installed.)
Removing acct ...
Stopping process accounting: done.
dpkg - warning: while removing acct, directory `/var/account' not empty so
not r
emoved.
Removing auctex ...
remove/auctex: Removing for emacs19... done.
remove/auctex: Removing for emacs20... done.
^CE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg exited unexpectedly
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
I terminated the process with ctrl-C.

I would be thankful, if somebody told what was wrong. I suspect that
upgrading perl should not require removing e.g. gnome-bin.

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extace alsa compile error

2001-11-09 Thread Adam John Henry
I'm running sid, and after downloading (apt-get source
extace) extace version 1.6.1 I am getting compile errors.

My intention is to enable alsa support.  To do this, I
entered the extracted directory and edited the file
'./debian/rules' and changed '--disable-alsa' to
'--enable-alsa'.  I then ran './debian/rules build'.  If I
leave alsa disabled, the compile is clean.  Here are
the version for packages installed on my machine:

  ii  alsa-base  0.9+0beta7-2
  ii  alsa-headers   0.9+0beta7-2
  ii  alsa-modules-2 0.9+0beta7-2+p
  ii  alsa-source0.9+0beta7-2
  ii  alsa-utils 0.9.0beta7-1

The source package differs in version from the binary; could
this be part of the problem?  Is there a better forum for me
to report this? 

I've attached the log of my compile, separated into stdout and
stderr.  Thanks for comments.

-- 
Adam John Henry 
 
dir.c: In function `update_dircontrol':
dir.c:119: warning: control reaches end of non-void function
sound.c:38: parse error before `*'
sound.c:38: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of `alsa_handle'
sound.c:38: warning: data definition has no type or storage class
sound.c: In function `open_sound':
sound.c:88: warning: implicit declaration of function `snd_pcm_loopback_open'
sound.c:88: `SND_PCM_LB_OPEN_PLAYBACK' undeclared (first use in this function)
sound.c:88: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
sound.c:88: for each function it appears in.)
sound.c:100: warning: implicit declaration of function 
`snd_pcm_loopback_block_mode'
sound.c:101: request for member `format' in something not a structure or union
sound.c:101: `SND_PCM_SFMT_S16_LE' undeclared (first use in this function)
sound.c:102: request for member `rate' in something not a structure or union
sound.c:103: request for member `voices' in something not a structure or union
sound.c:104: warning: implicit declaration of function `snd_pcm_loopback_format'
sound.c: In function `close_sound':
sound.c:159: warning: implicit declaration of function `snd_pcm_loopback_close'
sound.c: In function `alsa_starter_thread':
sound.c:412: `snd_pcm_loopback_callbacks_t' undeclared (first use in this 
function)
sound.c:412: parse error before `callbacks'
sound.c:416: `callbacks' undeclared (first use in this function)
sound.c:423: warning: implicit declaration of function `snd_pcm_loopback_read'
make[3]: *** [sound.o] Error 1
make[3]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs
make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2
make: *** [build-stamp] Error 2
dh_testdir
libtoolize -f -c
You should add the contents of `/usr/share/aclocal/libtool.m4' to `aclocal.m4'.
aclocal
./configure --prefix=/usr --enable-alsa
creating cache ./config.cache
checking for a BSD compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
checking whether build environment is sane... yes
checking whether make sets ${MAKE}... yes
checking for working aclocal... found
checking for working autoconf... found
checking for working automake... found
checking for working autoheader... found
checking for working makeinfo... found
checking whether to enable maintainer-specific portions of Makefiles... no
checking host system type... i586-pc-linux-gnu
checking build system type... i586-pc-linux-gnu
checking for ranlib... ranlib
checking for gcc... gcc
checking whether the C compiler (gcc  ) works... yes
checking whether the C compiler (gcc  ) is a cross-compiler... no
checking whether we are using GNU C... yes
checking whether gcc accepts -g... yes
checking for ld used by GCC... /usr/bin/ld
checking if the linker (/usr/bin/ld) is GNU ld... yes
checking for BSD-compatible nm... /usr/bin/nm -B
checking whether ln -s works... yes
updating cache ./config.cache
checking for object suffix... o
checking for gcc option to produce PIC... -fPIC
checking if gcc PIC flag -fPIC works... yes
checking if gcc supports -c -o file.o... yes
checking if gcc supports -c -o file.lo... yes
checking if gcc supports -fno-rtti -fno-exceptions ... yes
checking if gcc static flag -static works... -static
checking if the linker (/usr/bin/ld) is GNU ld... yes
checking whether the linker (/usr/bin/ld) supports shared libraries... yes
checking command to parse /usr/bin/nm -B output... yes
checking how to hardcode library paths into programs... immediate
checking for /usr/bin/ld option to reload object files... -r
checking dynamic linker characteristics... Linux ld.so
checking if libtool supports shared libraries... yes
checking whether to build shared libraries... yes
checking whether to build static libraries... yes
checking for objdir... .libs
creating libtool
loading cache ./config.cache
checking for gcc... (cached) gcc
checking whether the C compiler (gcc -g -O2 ) works... yes
checking whether the C compiler (gcc -g -O2 ) is a cross-compiler... no
checking whether we are using GNU C... (cached) yes
checking whether gcc accepts -g... (cached) yes
checking for a BSD compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
checking whether ln -s works... (cached) 

apt-get download for remote machine

2001-11-09 Thread Thomas R. Shemanske

I have a very slow internet connection at home, but a fast one at
work.

What I would like to do is an apt-get update on the home machine,
take some ouputted list of files which need to be updated, use the
machine at work to download those on the list, and transfer the files
(say via CD, zip or other media) back home and place them in
/var/cache/apt/archives, making apt-get happy.

I am not sure how to generate the list, or get apt-get or wget to act
on this.  Any ideas?

Thanks

Tom



Re: Problem with testing upgrade (kdelibs3)

2001-11-09 Thread Cam Ellison
Thanks, Colin.  That seems to have done the trick quite nicely.

* Colin Watson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 09, 2001 at 10:01:14AM -0800, Cam Ellison wrote:
> > I just ran my weekly upgrade, which is usually problem-free, but now I
> > have an odd one.  Installation of kdelibs3_4%3a2.2.1-14_i386.deb gets
> > hung up at the following stage:
> > 

> That's bugs #118802 and #118806. 'dpkg -i --force-overwrite
> /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs3_4%3a2.2.1-14_i386.deb' will work around
> the problem.
> 
> > I have tried moving the old file in question, but with the same result.
> 
> You should probably move it back before running the command above.
> 
I had done so, but thanks for the rminder.

Cheers

Cam


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vsound and echo

2001-11-09 Thread Lang Hurst
I recently installed vsound with the intent of burning old episodes of This 
American Life onto a couple of CD's for a road trip.  It installed with no 
problems, but when I record it has a really strong unwanted echo.  RealPlayer 
works fine, but the echo happens in the redirect.  Here is the info:

testing/unstable
vsound-9.5
the latest real player
sawfish (if that matters)

the command line I'm using is:
vsound -f sample.wav -t realplay http://www.thislife.org/ra/7/ram

Any help appreciated.
--
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children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt,
tortured, fined, imprisoned; yet we have not advanced one inch towards
uniformity.  What has been the effect of coercion?  To make one half
of the world fools, and the other half hypocrites.
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Re: Mouse wheel in woody

2001-11-09 Thread Aniartia
On Friday 09 November 2001 00:01, Steffen Evers wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 08, 2001 at 23:33, Aniartia wrote:
> > > Is it the same procedure with woody (XFree86 4.1.0)?
> >
> > Yes but you shouldn't need to do this:
> > > > in Xsession:
> > > >
> > > > -
> > > > # Starts the imwheel process from the global
> > > > # Xsession file.
> > > > . /etc/X11/imwheel/startup.conf
> > > > if [ "$IMWHEEL_START" = "1" ]; then
> > > > /usr/bin/imwheel ${IMWHEEL_PARAMS}
> > > > fi
> > > > -
>
> I am using gpm with a raw repeater to /dev/gpmdata. Is there something to
> consider?

If it truly is a raw repeater nope but I don't have a clue. My tendecey would 
be to turn off gpm for a bit, try it without gpm (some mice don't seem to 
work with the XF86 v4 scroll maping anyway), if it works then try with gpm. 

Ani



Re: GCC packages fighting amongst themselves?

2001-11-09 Thread Colin Watson
On Fri, Nov 09, 2001 at 12:00:21PM -0500, Phil Edwards wrote:
> There's probably an easy way out of this mess, but I'm somewhat new
> to Debian.  (Been using Linux for years, but just recently switched to
> using a distro rather than hacking everything together by hand.)
> 
> For a while now I've had both gcc/gcc-2.95 and gcc-3.0 installed; three
> packages in all.  I briefly tried uninstalling the gcc/gcc-2.95 packages
> (why are there two of them? they're the same thing, aren't they?) but
> found that the gcc-3.0 package doesn't use the "alternatives" links to
> provide /usr/bin/gcc, etc.

The Debian gcc packages are organized as follows:

  * gcc-$(version) packages exist for various architectures, depending
on where they work.

  * The gcc-defaults source package generates the 'gcc' binary package,
which depends on the "best" gcc-$(version) for each architecture.

  * If you want to use the alternative compilers, use /usr/bin/gcc-3.0
(or set CC=gcc-3.0, or whatever).

This is essentially to avoid the hideous problems that might occur if,
say, a maintainer had used 'update-alternatives --config gcc' to switch
to gcc-3.0, and then built and uploaded a C++-based library with that.

> The update_alternatives(8) man page doesn't list any examples of how to
> use it, and I didn't feel like single-handedly destroying my system finding
> out while experimenting.  :-)

Heh. The --install and --remove options are really only meant for use by
packages.

> So, back to gcc and gcc-2.95.
> 
> But now dselect is constantly signalling conflicts:
> 
> gcc conflicts with gcc-doc (<< 2.95.3)
> gcc-2.95 depends on gcc (>= 2.95.3-2)
> kernel-source-2.2.19 recommends gcc
> kernel-package recommends gcc
> 
> And dselect's recommended solution is to uninstall gcc, uninstall gcc-2.95,
> uninstall the kernel source, the kernel package, all of KDE and all of
> Python -- just so that it can install gcc-doc instead.
> 
> "task-devel-common" is what's demanding that gcc-doc be installed.

Both gcc-doc and task-devel-common are obsolete. gcc-doc still exists in
testing, although I'm not quite sure why the testing bot hasn't decided
to remove it yet; it's been replaced by gcc-$(version)-doc.
task-devel-common has been removed from both testing and unstable, as
the task packages have been replaced by a mechanism that stands a chance
of causing the freeze fewer problems this time round.

Your best bet is to try to get task-devel-common uninstalled. I'm kind
of surprised that dselect complained about that, as nothing in
testing/i386 currently depends on it. I assume you're using testing?
Which architecture?

> (Ironically, the reason I want to get rid of gcc-2.95 entirely and use
> only gcc-3.x is that I'm a GCC maintainer, and want to do lots of testing
> with the 3.x series.  If the solution to this dependancy mess involves
> destroying gcc-doc, that's fine with me; I have many copies of the GCC
> manual already.  :-)

You could build your own gcc-defaults package, if you like, that depends
on gcc-3.0 rather than gcc-2.95. That shouldn't be too difficult.

Cheers,

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Re: Problem with testing upgrade (kdelibs3)

2001-11-09 Thread Stephen E. Hargrove
* Cam Ellison ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) spake thusly:
> I just ran my weekly upgrade, which is usually problem-free, but now I have 
> an odd one.  Installation of kdelibs3_4%3a2.2.1-14_i386.deb gets hung up at 
> the following stage:
> 
> Unpacking replacement kdelibs3 ...
> Replacing files in old package kdebase-libs ...
> Replacing files in old package konqueror ...
> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs3_4%3a2.2.1-14_i386.deb 
> (--unpack):
> trying to overwrite 
> '/usr/share/icons/hicolor/32x32/devices/3floppy_mount.png' which is also in 
> package kdebase
> dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)

yeah.  dpkg -l --force-all
/var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs3_4%3a2.2.1-14_i386.deb should get you
past the problem.  from what i could tell, it was only dying because it
was trying to overwrite a bunch of .png files.
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Re: Second sending...

2001-11-09 Thread Walter Hofmann
On Thu, 08 Nov 2001, Ian Millsom wrote:

> Its a rtl8139.. Now a lot of people will bag these cards, but they do the
> job. I have about 30 other machines all the same setup
> (processors/hdd/memory) differ, but the setup is the same and they all
> work fine.
> 
> > what is the system(s) hooked to? > 
> The system is plugged direct ethernet to the network. Not sending any
> special information, just brings up the interface.
> 
> Basic task of the machine is a fileserver. Plugs into
> switch (Yes changed ports on switch) and serves files to the network.

Are only incoming connections dead and outgoing connections still work?
Have you checked if the IP address is assigned to another computer?

Walter



syslogd and iptables

2001-11-09 Thread Raffaele Sandrini
Hi all,

what do i have to enter to the sylog.conf to split all the iptables messages 
done by the LOG (-j LOG) target into another file than messages?

cheers,
Raffaele
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Re: Problem with testing upgrade (kdelibs3)

2001-11-09 Thread Colin Watson
On Fri, Nov 09, 2001 at 10:01:14AM -0800, Cam Ellison wrote:
> I just ran my weekly upgrade, which is usually problem-free, but now I
> have an odd one.  Installation of kdelibs3_4%3a2.2.1-14_i386.deb gets
> hung up at the following stage:
> 
> Unpacking replacement kdelibs3 ...
> Replacing files in old package kdebase-libs ...
> Replacing files in old package konqueror ...
> dpkg: error processing
> /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs3_4%3a2.2.1-14_i386.deb (--unpack):
> trying to overwrite
> '/usr/share/icons/hicolor/32x32/devices/3floppy_mount.png' which is
> also in package kdebase

That's bugs #118802 and #118806. 'dpkg -i --force-overwrite
/var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs3_4%3a2.2.1-14_i386.deb' will work around
the problem.

> I have tried moving the old file in question, but with the same result.

You should probably move it back before running the command above.

Cheers,

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Problem with testing upgrade (kdelibs3)

2001-11-09 Thread Cam Ellison
I just ran my weekly upgrade, which is usually problem-free, but now I have an 
odd one.  Installation of kdelibs3_4%3a2.2.1-14_i386.deb gets hung up at the 
following stage:

Unpacking replacement kdelibs3 ...
Replacing files in old package kdebase-libs ...
Replacing files in old package konqueror ...
dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs3_4%3a2.2.1-14_i386.deb 
(--unpack):
trying to overwrite '/usr/share/icons/hicolor/32x32/devices/3floppy_mount.png' 
which is also in package kdebase
dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)

I have tried moving the old file in question, but with the same result.

Is this a problem with the package, with dpkg, or is there something I'm 
neglecting to do.  I am running this as su in a console on the kde desktop.

Thanks for any help

Cam


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Re: cannot set DISPLAY from remote machine

2001-11-09 Thread Steffen Evers
On Fri, Nov 09, 2001 at 09:31, Lars Jensen wrote:
> Recently I installed woody on three machines and I am having the same
> problem on all of them: 
> 
> When I try to export DISPLAY from a remote machine to any of the 
> three woody machines I get the error:
> 
> _X11TransSocketINETConnect: Can't connect: errno = 111
> 
> (I did not forget to do the xhost + to allow access).
> 
> What is the problem here? -I didn't have this problem with potato. Did I
> overlook something in the installation of XFree 4 ?
As fare as I can remember XF 4 has tcp/ip listing off by default. I
guess you have set this during the configuration. You have to turn this
on again, otherwise it does not work.

I cannot remember which package it was that you have to dpkg-reconfigure
...

Someone else?

Bye, Steffen



Re: Can't cycle thru X screen resolutions

2001-11-09 Thread Hans Ekbrand
On Fri, Nov 09, 2001 at 08:43:55AM -0800, tom schuetz wrote:
> I'm running the generic S3 SVGA server, and it works fine, but only at what 
> looks like 600 x 800.
> 
> This is no matter what I do with [CTRL] and [ALT] and +/-.
> 
> This is also no matter what I specify in manually editing XF86Config OR in 
> running xf86config
> OR in running XFSetup.
> 

You are not running X v4 possibly? In that case you should edit XF86Config-4

> I don't get any error messages (that I can see in X, anyway); just, Nothing 
> Happens.
> 
> Anybody?  
> 

If you start X with startx in a virtual console, what modes get listed in that 
virtual console?

There might be other useful messages in that console.

/Hans Ekbrand

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Re: cannot set DISPLAY from remote machine

2001-11-09 Thread dman
On Fri, Nov 09, 2001 at 09:31:00AM -0800, Lars Jensen wrote:
| Recently I installed woody on three machines and I am having the same
| problem on all of them: 
| 
| When I try to export DISPLAY from a remote machine to any of the 
| three woody machines I get the error:
| 
| _X11TransSocketINETConnect: Can't connect: errno = 111
| 
| (I did not forget to do the xhost + to allow access).
| 
| What is the problem here? -I didn't have this problem with potato. Did I
| overlook something in the installation of XFree 4 ?

Yeah, tcp listening is disabled by default.  Instead try (on the
debian box) :

ssh -X -l  

and run an X app (but don't set DISPLAY!).

-D



Re: GCC packages fighting amongst themselves?

2001-11-09 Thread dman
On Fri, Nov 09, 2001 at 12:00:21PM -0500, Phil Edwards wrote:

| For a while now I've had both gcc/gcc-2.95 and gcc-3.0 installed; three
| packages in all.  I briefly tried uninstalling the gcc/gcc-2.95 packages
| (why are there two of them? they're the same thing, aren't they?) but
| found that the gcc-3.0 package doesn't use the "alternatives" links to
| provide /usr/bin/gcc, etc.

[package conflicts]

| Why is 'gcc' conflicting with its own documentation package?  What can I
| do to beat it into submission?
|
| (Ironically, the reason I want to get rid of gcc-2.95 entirely and use
| only gcc-3.x is that I'm a GCC maintainer, and want to do lots of testing
| with the 3.x series.  If the solution to this dependancy mess involves
| destroying gcc-doc, that's fine with me; I have many copies of the GCC
| manual already.  :-)

This system currently has :

$ dpkg -l | grep gcc
ii  gcc2.95.4-8   The GNU C compiler.
ii  gcc-2.95   2.95.4-0.01100 The GNU C compiler.
ii  gcc-3.03.0.2-0pre0109 The GNU C compiler.
ii  gcc-3.0-base   3.0.2-0pre0109 The GNU Compiler Collection (base package).
ii  libgcc13.0.2-0pre0109 GCC support library.


Using 'apt-cache show gcc' reveals :

Version: 2:2.95.4-8
Provides: c-compiler
Depends: cpp (>= 2:2.95.4-8), gcc-2.95, cpp-2.95
Recommends: libc-dev
Suggests: make, manpages-dev, autoconf, automake, libtool, flex, bison, gdb
Conflicts: gcc-doc (<< 1:2.95.3)

The gcc package conflicts with the -doc package that is of the wrong
version.  The gcc-doc package that shows itself available on this
system is version 2.95.2-20.  

I think the 'gcc' package is just a simply-named package to provide
the current default version.


Try running
apt-get remove gcc-doc
apt-get install gcc-3.0 

You can put a '-s' option after the 'apt-get' to see what apt will do
if you run the command for real (without the '-s' option).

HTH,
-D



Re: POP over SSL

2001-11-09 Thread Andreas Goesele
Alexander Wallace <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hello there! 
> 
> What is the package I need to apt-get to be able to connect to my server
> using SSL?
> 
> Thanks!

stunnel?

Andreas Goesele



cannot set DISPLAY from remote machine

2001-11-09 Thread Lars Jensen
Recently I installed woody on three machines and I am having the same
problem on all of them: 

When I try to export DISPLAY from a remote machine to any of the 
three woody machines I get the error:

_X11TransSocketINETConnect: Can't connect: errno = 111

(I did not forget to do the xhost + to allow access).

What is the problem here? -I didn't have this problem with potato. Did I
overlook something in the installation of XFree 4 ?

Thanks for any help,

Lars.

%%%
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Re: x broken after upgrade

2001-11-09 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Fri, Nov 09, 2001 at 05:58:10PM +0100, M.J.P.Benschop wrote:
> I'm running potato on a laptop with a ATI Mobility M 4.
Good.
> I had a perfectly fine working X whith kde and everything.
> After I did an apt-get update/apt-get upgrade earlier this week
> X got broken.
> I'll attach the /var/log/XFree86.log.
Yes.
> XFree86 Version 4.1.0.1 / X Window System
Oops.  Why X4?  X4 is in woody.

Potato runs X3

Did you include testing in sources.list? Then you need to update
configuration files.

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Ftp downloads for Linux running AMD K6

2001-11-09 Thread shyamk
Could somebody please send me the URL of an FTP site from where I can download
binaries (/bin variety and /sbin variety) for Linux running AMD K6  ?

My machine shows up as i586 .

Regards,
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Shyam



ctrl key functionality gone missing

2001-11-09 Thread MRZ
I've noticed a fair bit of traffic on this general topic, so hopefully the 
answer to this springs right to mind..

I've a debian potato install that was recently upgraded to use the 2.4.x kernel 
line. I essentially upgraded
Debian itself and my Ximian desktop at the same time, using the "bunk" packages 
and 
whatever Ximian's current gnome is. Since doing this I can no longer use the 
 key in all X applications. 

I originally believed that it wouldn't work in any X application but realized
after examining xmodmap, and testing (by running "xev") that it was a selected 
few applications that didn't work.

Where can I begin, to correct this anomaly?

Regards,
Marc.





GCC packages fighting amongst themselves?

2001-11-09 Thread Phil Edwards
There's probably an easy way out of this mess, but I'm somewhat new
to Debian.  (Been using Linux for years, but just recently switched to
using a distro rather than hacking everything together by hand.)

For a while now I've had both gcc/gcc-2.95 and gcc-3.0 installed; three
packages in all.  I briefly tried uninstalling the gcc/gcc-2.95 packages
(why are there two of them? they're the same thing, aren't they?) but
found that the gcc-3.0 package doesn't use the "alternatives" links to
provide /usr/bin/gcc, etc.

The update_alternatives(8) man page doesn't list any examples of how to
use it, and I didn't feel like single-handedly destroying my system finding
out while experimenting.  :-)  So, back to gcc and gcc-2.95.

But now dselect is constantly signalling conflicts:

gcc conflicts with gcc-doc (<< 2.95.3)
gcc-2.95 depends on gcc (>= 2.95.3-2)
kernel-source-2.2.19 recommends gcc
kernel-package recommends gcc

And dselect's recommended solution is to uninstall gcc, uninstall gcc-2.95,
uninstall the kernel source, the kernel package, all of KDE and all of
Python -- just so that it can install gcc-doc instead.

"task-devel-common" is what's demanding that gcc-doc be installed.  I played
with deselecting that and half the packages on my system threatened to
uninstall themselves, so I backed off.


Why is 'gcc' conflicting with its own documentation package?  What can I
do to beat it into submission?


(Ironically, the reason I want to get rid of gcc-2.95 entirely and use
only gcc-3.x is that I'm a GCC maintainer, and want to do lots of testing
with the 3.x series.  If the solution to this dependancy mess involves
destroying gcc-doc, that's fine with me; I have many copies of the GCC
manual already.  :-)

Phil

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No xpr on debian...

2001-11-09 Thread Mike Fontenot

The xwd man page (for dumping an image of an X window)
gives a "see also" for xpr (for printing the resulting
X window dump).

But xpr doesn't exist on my 2.2r3 debian distribution.

What's going on?  This is a fundamental capability...has
xpr been replaced by something else to do this job?

Mike Fontenot
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R: problems with the keyboard?....I don't think so....

2001-11-09 Thread Fabio Cesari
Removing gpm solved the problem!!

Grazie Andrea!!

Fabio



> -Messaggio originale-
> Da: Andrea Vettorello [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Inviato: venerdì 9 novembre 2001 17.12
> A: debian-user mailing list
> Oggetto: Re: problems with the keyboard?I don't think so
>
>
> On Thu, 2001-11-08 at 19:06, Fabio Cesari wrote:
> > Hi all!
> >
> > Yesterday I updated a debian woody. It was first installed in June,
> > therefore most of the installed packages have been updated.
> After dselect
> > finished the update process, all seemed to work fine, and all
> the services
> > were working well (apache/php, mysql, samba, ssh, etc.). After
> a few hours I
> > had to reboot, and this is what happened:
> >
> > - the boot process executes without showing any error message
> > - the machine answers to ping requests
> > - ssh, samba and apache are not responding
> > - at the login prompt I can't write anything. Pressing keys on
> the keyboard
> > has no effect. This is not an hardware problem with the keyboard.
> >
> > Since both console and remote access to the system are not
> working, I can't
> > log in.
> > Any suggestions on how to solve the problem?
> > Could be a problem with the locale?
> >
> > I also tried to boot from a different kernel I had on a floppy,
> but nothing
> > changes.
> >
>
> Are you using gpm? If yes, try uninstalling it...
>
>
> Andrea
>
>
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Re: 2 doubts

2001-11-09 Thread John Hasler
Shyam writes:
> 1) How do you take lilo out of MBR in a fully functional Win-Lin dual-boot
>   machine ?

The same way as on any machine running Linux: 'lilo -u /dev/hdxx'.  This
puts the MBR back the way it was before Lilo was installed.

> 2) How do you write (manually) either the Win 98 boot loader or the Win
> 2K/Win NT boot loader to MBR ?

Ask Microsoft.
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RE: Backspace is delete

2001-11-09 Thread Kris Huber
Shaya,

Try adding:
(global-set-key "\C-h" 'backward-delete-char)
to your .emacs file on the Solaris side.  I think that will take care of
your problem.  Maybe you'll run into other keys that don't get mapped the
same, but you can easily configure that in the .emacs file.  I'm not sure
how to make your keymappings only be modified, for example, when you are
logged in remotely using telnet, however (although I'm sure it is possible
to figure something out).

-Kris

-Original Message-
From: Shaya Potter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 7:39 AM
To: Debian User List
Subject: Re: Backspace is delete


On Fri, 2001-11-09 at 08:52, Colin Watson wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 09, 2001 at 07:47:38PM +0800, Michael Robinson wrote:
> > Maybe I'm just being a clueless newbie, but I can't find where to put
the
> > ^H back into my Backspace in X text applications.
> 
> You should probably read /usr/share/doc/xfree86-common/FAQ.gz. Search
> for "Why doesn't my backspace, delete, or some other key work?". It's
> possible you've got too many uses of xmodmap and .Xresources
> *Translations - backspace and delete *should* work correctly out of the
> box now.

at least for me on sid, emacs is unusable if I telnet into a solaris
box, b/c everytime I hit backspace I get ctrl-h which to them is help. 
I haven't investigated it (as I don't telnet into solaris boxes often)
but its something I've noticed.

shaya


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Re: 2 doubts

2001-11-09 Thread xio
On Fri, Nov 09, 2001 at 10:04:36PM +0530, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Dear members ,
>   I have 2 doubts :
> 1) How do you take lilo out of MBR in a fully functional  Win-Lin dual-boot 
> machine ?
> 2) How do you write (manually) either the Win 98 boot loader or the Win 
> 2K/Win NT
> boot loader
> to MBR ?
> 
> Thanks ,
> ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
> Shyam

Have a look at /usr/doc/lilo/Manual.txt.gz:

[...]
Installation: 

  - boot Linux. 
  - make a backup copy of your MBR on a floppy disk, e.g.
 dd if=/dev/hda of=/fd/MBR bs=512 count=1 
  - install LILO with the boot sector on the Linux partition. 
  - install BOOTACTV as the MBR, e.g.
 dd if=bootactv.bin of=/dev/hda bs=446 count=1 
  - reboot. 

Deinstallation: 

  - boot Linux. 
  - restore the old MBR, e.g.
 dd if=/MBR of=/dev/hda bs=446 count=1
 or FDISK /MBR under MS-DOS. 

If replacing the MBR appears undesirable and if a second Linux partition 
exists (e.g. /usr, _not_ a swap partition), BOOTACTV can be merged with
the 
partition table and stored as the "boot sector" of that partition. Then, 
the partition can be marked active to be booted by the DOS-MBR.

Example:

# dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hda3 bs=512 count=1
# dd if=bootactv.bin of=/dev/hda3 bs=446 count=1

_WARNING:_ Whenever the disk is re-partitioned, the merged boot sector
on 
that "spare" Linux partition has to be updated too.
[...]

Cheers

xio

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x broken after upgrade

2001-11-09 Thread M.J.P.Benschop
Hi,

I'm running potato on a laptop with a ATI Mobility M 4.
I had a perfectly fine working X whith kde and everything.
After I did an apt-get update/apt-get upgrade earlier this week
X got broken.
Am I the only one experiencing this 

I'll attach the /var/log/XFree86.log.
What I make from it is that my XF86Config is not right.
But it didn't change and it was working just fine before.

Does anybody have a clue about what's wrong ?

This is a pre-release version of XFree86, and is not supported in any
way.  Bugs may be reported to XFree86@XFree86.Org and patches submitted
to [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Before reporting bugs in pre-release versions,
please check the latest version in the XFree86 CVS repository
(http://www.XFree86.Org/cvs)

XFree86 Version 4.1.0.1 / X Window System
(protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6510)
Release Date: xx August 2001
If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is
newer than the above date, look for a newer version before
reporting problems.  (See http://www.XFree86.Org/FAQ)
Build Operating System: Linux 2.4.13 i686 [ELF]
Module Loader present
(==) Log file: "/var/log/XFree86.0.log", Time: Fri Nov  9 18:32:04 2001
(==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/XF86Config-4"
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
 (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
 (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) ServerLayout "Default Layout"
(**) |-->Screen "Default Screen" (0)
(**) |   |-->Monitor "Generic Monitor"
(**) |   |-->Device "Generic Video Card"
(**) |-->Input Device "Generic Keyboard"
(**) Option "XkbRules" "xfree86"
(**) XKB: rules: "xfree86"
(**) Option "XkbModel" "pc104"
(**) XKB: model: "pc104"
(**) Option "XkbLayout" "us"
(**) XKB: layout: "us"
(==) Keyboard: CustomKeycode disabled
(**) |-->Input Device "Configured Mouse"
(**) |-->Input Device "Generic Mouse"
(WW) The directory "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic" does not exist.
Entry deleted from font path.
(**) FontPath set to
"unix/:7100,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled,/usr
/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/S
peedo,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi"
(==) RgbPath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb"
(==) ModulePath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules"
(--) using VT number 7

(II) Open APM successful
(II) Open APM successful
(II) Module ABI versions:
XFree86 ANSI C Emulation: 0.1
XFree86 Video Driver: 0.4
XFree86 XInput driver : 0.2
XFree86 Server Extension : 0.1
XFree86 Font Renderer : 0.2
(II) Loader running on linux
(II) LoadModule: "bitmap"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libbitmap.a
(II) Module bitmap: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
compiled for 4.1.0.1, module version = 1.0.0
Module class: XFree86 Font Renderer
ABI class: XFree86 Font Renderer, version 0.2
(II) Loading font Bitmap
(II) LoadModule: "pcidata"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libpcidata.a
(II) Module pcidata: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
compiled for 4.1.0.1, module version = 0.1.0
ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.4
(II) PCI: Probing config type using method 1
(II) PCI: Config type is 1
(II) PCI: stages = 0x03, oldVal1 = 0x8000fac0, mode1Res1 = 0x8000
(II) PCI: PCI scan (all values are in hex)
(II) PCI: 00:00:0: chip 8086,1130 card , rev 02 class 06,00,00 hdr
00
(II) PCI: 00:01:0: chip 8086,1131 card , rev 02 class 06,04,00 hdr
01
(II) PCI: 00:1e:0: chip 8086,2448 card , rev 03 class 06,04,00 hdr
01
(II) PCI: 00:1f:0: chip 8086,244c card , rev 03 class 06,01,00 hdr
80
(II) PCI: 00:1f:1: chip 8086,244a card 8086,4541 rev 03 class 01,01,80 hdr
00
(II) PCI: 00:1f:2: chip 8086,2442 card 8086,4541 rev 03 class 0c,03,00 hdr
00
(II) PCI: 01:00:0: chip 1002,4d46 card 1028,00a3 rev 00 class 03,00,00 hdr
00
(II) PCI: 02:03:0: chip 125d,1998 card 1028,00a3 rev 10 class 04,01,00 hdr
00
(II) PCI: 02:06:0: chip 10b7,6055 card 10b7,6456 rev 10 class 02,00,00 hdr
80
(II) PCI: 02:06:1: chip 10b7,1007 card 10b7,615b rev 10 class 07,80,00 hdr
00
(II) PCI: 02:0f:0: chip 104c,ac42 card e000, rev 00 class 06,07,00 hdr
82
(II) PCI: 02:0f:1: chip 104c,ac42 card f400, rev 00 class 06,07,00 hdr
82
(II) PCI: 02:0f:2: chip 104c,8027 card 1028,00a3 rev 00 class 0c,00,10 hdr
80
(II) PCI: End of PCI scan
(II) LoadModule: "scanpci"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libscanpci.a
(II) Module scanpci: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
compiled for 4.1.0.1, module version = 0.1.0
ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.4
(II) UnloadModule: "scanpci"
(II) Unloading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libscanpci.a
(II) Host-to-PCI bridge:
(II) PCI-to-ISA bridge:
(II) PCI-to-PCI bridge:
(II) PCI-to-PCI bridge:
(II) Bus 0: bridge is at (0:0:0), (-1,0,0), BCTRL: 0x08 (VGA_EN is set)
(II) Bus 0 I/O range:
[0] -1 00x - 0x (0x1000

Re: kdelibs3 broken in woody?

2001-11-09 Thread Steffen Evers
On Fri, Nov 09, 2001 at 12:29, Jan Ulrich Hasecke wrote:
> > I get errors while dist-upgrading today
> 
> Sorry. I should think before I post.
> 
> This is on testing.
> 
> And I had a look into the buglist. It was reported and is closed, mh,
> perhaps not fully closed. ;-)
> 
> I solved it with --force-overwrite
It is about the new KDE 2.2.x entering woody now. The problem is that
the current woody KDE snapshot does not really work as it is a mixture
between 2.1 and 2.2. Wait or get the full range of KDE 2.2 from
unstable/sid.

So anyone should put his KDE packages on hold or simply not run an
update on woody if you do not want to have a broken KDE. I guess, this
will be fixed soon as the new legal/policy issues are resolved and the
kde packages keep coming in.

Read debian-kde for details.

Bye, Steffen

PS: It has bitten me and I am using the console right now :-)



Re: 2 doubts

2001-11-09 Thread Mark Ferlatte
On Fri, Nov 09, 2001 at 10:04:36PM +0530, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 1) How do you take lilo out of MBR in a fully functional  Win-Lin dual-boot 
> machine ?

You don't have to, you can just over-write it with whatever other
bootloader you want to use (like GRUB!  :)

> 2) How do you write (manually) either the Win 98 boot loader or the Win 
> 2K/Win NT
> boot loader
> to MBR ?

Not positive about Win2k, but from Win98 you can run fdisk /mbr to
re-install the DOS master boot record.

M



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