Re: woody kernel question

[Geoff Ludwiczak]

Go to http://www.kernel.org and you should see the 2.4.18-pre9 patch.

On Mon, Feb 11, 2002 at 09:18:55PM -0800, Paul E Condon wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 11, 2002 at 08:56:29PM -0800, Geoff Ludwiczak wrote:
> > I have been using kernel 2.4.18-pre9 for the past couple days and see no
> > problems with it so far.  I was using 2.4.17 before, and had no troubles 
> > with
> > it either.  Try 2.4.17, but if you're going to use 2.2, then just use 
> > 2.2.20.
> > 
> 
> Thanks, but now I have another question. Where does one find 2.4.18-pre9?
> When I read your message, I thought gee that's strange 2.2.17 is the highest 
> version that I saw at http.us.debian.org. So I did update again in dselect and
> still see no 2.4.18-pre9. Where is it found?
> 
> 
> 
> > On Mon, Feb 11, 2002 at 08:34:00PM -0800, Paul E Condon wrote:
> > > I have just done dist-upgrade from Potato to Woody. I have been 
> > > using/learning
> > > Debian for a few months. This was the first serious change from my initial
> > > installation. The upgrade went smoothly, but took a while at 56k. I found 
> > > many
> > > nice improvements, but saw that the kernel had not been upgraded. I 
> > > suppose I
> > > could have known this before hand if I had read the right documents more
> > > carefully, but I didn't. 
> > > 
> > > Now I look at the offerings of kernels in dselect. Which is recommended?
> > > Of course I have to choose one that corresponds to my CPU, but what of 
> > > versioning? I see 2.2.20, 2.4.13, 2.4.14, 2.4.16, and 2.4.17. There are
> > > limits to my adventurousness. Which is the likely choise for the default
> > > Woody kernel when it becomes "stable"? I think I would like to use that 
> > > one
> > > if there are not good reasons to avoid it now.
> > > 
> > > Thanks.
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Re: woody kernel question

[Paul E Condon]

On Mon, Feb 11, 2002 at 08:56:29PM -0800, Geoff Ludwiczak wrote:
> I have been using kernel 2.4.18-pre9 for the past couple days and see no
> problems with it so far.  I was using 2.4.17 before, and had no troubles with
> it either.  Try 2.4.17, but if you're going to use 2.2, then just use 2.2.20.
> 

Thanks, but now I have another question. Where does one find 2.4.18-pre9?
When I read your message, I thought gee that's strange 2.2.17 is the highest 
version that I saw at http.us.debian.org. So I did update again in dselect and
still see no 2.4.18-pre9. Where is it found?



> On Mon, Feb 11, 2002 at 08:34:00PM -0800, Paul E Condon wrote:
> > I have just done dist-upgrade from Potato to Woody. I have been 
> > using/learning
> > Debian for a few months. This was the first serious change from my initial
> > installation. The upgrade went smoothly, but took a while at 56k. I found 
> > many
> > nice improvements, but saw that the kernel had not been upgraded. I suppose 
> > I
> > could have known this before hand if I had read the right documents more
> > carefully, but I didn't. 
> > 
> > Now I look at the offerings of kernels in dselect. Which is recommended?
> > Of course I have to choose one that corresponds to my CPU, but what of 
> > versioning? I see 2.2.20, 2.4.13, 2.4.14, 2.4.16, and 2.4.17. There are
> > limits to my adventurousness. Which is the likely choise for the default
> > Woody kernel when it becomes "stable"? I think I would like to use that one
> > if there are not good reasons to avoid it now.
> > 
> > Thanks.
> > -- 
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> > 
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Re: woody kernel question

[Thomas Cook]

I have used 2.4.17 without problems.  If 2.2.18 is what comes with woody
now, then I guess it looks like favourite for the woody release.

Tom

Geoff Ludwiczak wrote:
> 
> I have been using kernel 2.4.18-pre9 for the past couple days and see no
> problems with it so far.  I was using 2.4.17 before, and had no troubles with
> it either.  Try 2.4.17, but if you're going to use 2.2, then just use 2.2.20.
> 
> On Mon, Feb 11, 2002 at 08:34:00PM -0800, Paul E Condon wrote:
> > I have just done dist-upgrade from Potato to Woody. I have been 
> > using/learning
> > Debian for a few months. This was the first serious change from my initial
> > installation. The upgrade went smoothly, but took a while at 56k. I found 
> > many
> > nice improvements, but saw that the kernel had not been upgraded. I suppose 
> > I
> > could have known this before hand if I had read the right documents more
> > carefully, but I didn't.
> >
> > Now I look at the offerings of kernels in dselect. Which is recommended?
> > Of course I have to choose one that corresponds to my CPU, but what of
> > versioning? I see 2.2.20, 2.4.13, 2.4.14, 2.4.16, and 2.4.17. There are
> > limits to my adventurousness. Which is the likely choise for the default
> > Woody kernel when it becomes "stable"? I think I would like to use that one
> > if there are not good reasons to avoid it now.
> >
> > Thanks.
> > --
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Re: woody kernel question

[Geoff Ludwiczak]

I have been using kernel 2.4.18-pre9 for the past couple days and see no
problems with it so far.  I was using 2.4.17 before, and had no troubles with
it either.  Try 2.4.17, but if you're going to use 2.2, then just use 2.2.20.

On Mon, Feb 11, 2002 at 08:34:00PM -0800, Paul E Condon wrote:
> I have just done dist-upgrade from Potato to Woody. I have been using/learning
> Debian for a few months. This was the first serious change from my initial
> installation. The upgrade went smoothly, but took a while at 56k. I found many
> nice improvements, but saw that the kernel had not been upgraded. I suppose I
> could have known this before hand if I had read the right documents more
> carefully, but I didn't. 
> 
> Now I look at the offerings of kernels in dselect. Which is recommended?
> Of course I have to choose one that corresponds to my CPU, but what of 
> versioning? I see 2.2.20, 2.4.13, 2.4.14, 2.4.16, and 2.4.17. There are
> limits to my adventurousness. Which is the likely choise for the default
> Woody kernel when it becomes "stable"? I think I would like to use that one
> if there are not good reasons to avoid it now.
> 
> Thanks.
> -- 
> Paul E Condon
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> 
> 
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woody kernel question

[Paul E Condon]

I have just done dist-upgrade from Potato to Woody. I have been using/learning
Debian for a few months. This was the first serious change from my initial
installation. The upgrade went smoothly, but took a while at 56k. I found many
nice improvements, but saw that the kernel had not been upgraded. I suppose I
could have known this before hand if I had read the right documents more
carefully, but I didn't. 

Now I look at the offerings of kernels in dselect. Which is recommended?
Of course I have to choose one that corresponds to my CPU, but what of 
versioning? I see 2.2.20, 2.4.13, 2.4.14, 2.4.16, and 2.4.17. There are
limits to my adventurousness. Which is the likely choise for the default
Woody kernel when it becomes "stable"? I think I would like to use that one
if there are not good reasons to avoid it now.

Thanks.
-- 
Paul E Condon
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Re: Mixing Debian releases the easy way - HowTo - questions

[tluxt]

--- tluxt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am particularly concerned about ensuring apt-get upgrade works properly,
> and simply - ie,
>   not having extra-normal things to do for the person doing the upgrade.
> 
> 
> From the following references section, it seems that the immediately
> following procedure might do this, but I have some concerns:
> 
>   /etc/apt/apt.conf gets the following line:
> APT::Default-Release "testing";
> ...
> 
>   And, to install a package do:
> apt-get install /unstable
>   [in my case:
> apt-get install kde/unstable]
> 
> is a very simple way to get the correct packages installed.
> 
> My main as yet unanswered concern is:
> Will that also do the upgrade of packages properly?

I could have been clearer there.  I might better have said:
Will the above procedure allow upgrades to be done properly by doing:

  apt-get update
  apt-get upgrade

[Also: will apt (or other) programs that show what programs are installed
on the system work properly with the above procedure?]

> That's my main question.  What's the answer?


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Re: Problems with xf86cfg

[ben]

On Monday 11 February 2002 08:36 pm, Iván Filpo wrote:
> I installed the x-window-system-core before and the command xf86cfg was
> working, now that i have re-installed the system is not working. What
> happens is when i try to execute it, it enter x-window then the window to
> modify the stuff appears then the x-window blinks and it disappears so i
> have to configure the file manually but i'm worried about this and i want
> to learn how to solve it.
>

you have to tell it where the config file is located.

xf86cfg -xf86config 

ben

Problems with xf86cfg

[Iván Filpo]

I installed the x-window-system-core before and the 
command xf86cfg was working, now that i have re-installed the system is not 
working. What happens is when i try to execute it, it enter x-window then the 
window to modify the stuff appears then the x-window blinks and it disappears so 
i have to configure the file manually but i'm worried about this and i want to 
learn how to solve it.
 
 
Any suggestions ?
 
 
Thanks,
 
 
Iván Filpo

Re: max # of processes in debian testing

[Ionut Georgescu]

Take a look at /etc/security/limits.conf

It's about the same thing, but via PAM . Although I don't think this
will 'temperate' your children :) ...

Better add a line in the init.d script.


Ionut

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Re: OT: Need help from bash experts...

[Alvin Oga]

hi neal

i think you also need to watch out for other ms windoze gotchas

space in filenames are easy to handle...

more common problems for tar, cp and other unix utils ...
/home/me/tom's proposal/
ticks is a major problem

/home/me/ leading spaced names/

/home/me/windoze_user/for fun:/ or was it $

/home/me/windoze_user/' things on sale for $1.oo'
- using '  to signify users choices of ms filenames

in the file name that windoze allows that is NOT valid in *nix

ie... pre-process your list of illegal file names before coming from
  windoze to *nix...or you'll have some problems...

it also seem to have depended on which linux distro, which samba version
and tar, find, cp that had varying degree of "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" those file 
names
again

have fun
alvin

On Mon, 11 Feb 2002, Neal Lippman wrote:

> Sorry for OT posting; I am not sure if there is a newsgroups for bash 
> experts, so I figured I'd try here.
> 
> I need to be able to write a bash script that can copy files from a directory 
> who's name includes a space (long story, but it's a windows directory under 
> Win98 on a machine on my network).
> 
> Anyway, supposing that the directory is "/mount/windows/spaced name" and I 
> need to copy all of the files in the directory to a target.
> 
> At a bash prompt, I can issue either:
> cp "/mount/windows/spaced name/*" target 
> OR
> cp /mount/windows/spaced\ name/* target
> and all works fine.
> 
> However, from within a bash script, something like:
> 
> #!/bin/sh
> sourcedir=/mount/windows/spaced\ name
> cp $sourcedir/* target
> 
> fails, because the space isn't properly passed to cp, AND further the shell 
> doesn't do expansion on the wild card in the file name.
> 
> I have tried all sorts of variants:
> sourcedir="/mount/windows/spaced\ name"
> sourcedir="/mount/windows/spaced\\ name"
> sourcedir=/mount/windows/spaced\\ name"
> 
> and the cp command with various quotes and not quotes, and cannot seem to get 
> this to work. Within the script, if I try:
> 
> sourcedir="mount/windows/spaced\ name"
> anotherdir="mount/windows"
> echo $sourcedir/*
> echo $anotherdir/*
> 
> the first echo shows that there is no expansion of the wild card, while the 
> second echo works as expected, echoing the name of every file in 
> /mount/windows.
> 
> Clearly the problem is that dreadful space in the directory name. Any help on 
> how to syntax this greatly appreciated.
> 
> Thanks.
> N
> 
> 
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Re: max # of processes in debian testing

[debian]

Hmm. That's great for shell scripts and interactive shells, but what
about, for example, the number of sendmail children on a box? My problem
is I have a machine that can handle more than 300 sendmail children at any
given time, but once it hits 300 I've got to unplug the network and wait
for those children to die before I can fork new processes, such as ps or
kill.

Would fixing this be as simple as sticking a ulimit command in my sendmail
init script or does sendmail fork off into it's own environment making
that useless?

I would try it right now but I only have those many sendmail processes a
few days out of the week. :)



On Tue, 12 Feb 2002, Yven J. Leist wrote:

> On Monday 11 February 2002 19:19, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > It looks like the default max number of processes in Debian testing is 300
> > processes. How can this be increased? Any input would be appricated.
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Oh, on i386. :)
> the maximum number of processes can be set with the ulimit command (man
> bash); to set this value you can simply put a line in your .bashrc or
> /etc/profile that says something like for instance "ulimit -u 1000".
> cheers,
> Yven
>

Mixing Debian releases the easy way - HowTo - questions

[tluxt]

I'm trying to put together a howto, and could use your input.
I've assembled a procedure, and some references- do you have any
suggestions?

My persoal goal is to have the procedure to run a Woody system,
with all the latest KDE packages pulled from Sid.
But, this procedure could be used for many packages other than KDE.

The 1st level goal here is to have a way to:

  install a Woody system
  set up some method, such as APT::Default-Release "testing"; or pinning
  Use that method to pull the "kde" metapackage, "kde", from unstable
  Have a way to do
apt-get update; apt-get upgrade
that will
  get everything upgraded from their proper locations, ie:
  upgrade all the installed & depended kde packages from unstable,
as appropriate
  upgrade any other woody packages from woody, as appropriate

What is the best, or at least very good,
  (simple to comprehend, setup, do;
   as powerful as necessary;
   reliable)
way to do this?
I am particularly concerned about ensuring apt-get upgrade works properly,
and simply - ie,
  not having extra-normal things to do for the person doing the upgrade.


>From the following references section, it seems that the immediately
following procedure might do this, but I have some concerns:

  /etc/apt/apt.conf gets the following line:
APT::Default-Release "testing";

[Note: On my several months old Woody install,
in /etc/apt I have no file called apt.conf .
I do have there a directory apt.conf.d that has one file in it:
  70debconf
In this case, what I exactly need to do is create the file
/etc/apt/apt.conf, and put in it only the following line, correct?
  APT::Default-Release "testing";]

  And, to install a package do:
apt-get install /unstable
  [in my case:
apt-get install kde/unstable]

is a very simple way to get the correct packages installed.

My main as yet unanswered concern is:
Will that also do the upgrade of packages properly?
  (The asnwer to that was not clear to me.
   The question may have been triggered
   by comments from Chris Halls, below.)

That's my main question.  What's the answer?


[The "Mixing Debian releases the easy way" HowTo will be a component of my
KDE-Debian HowTo for KDE2 & Debian3=Woody X86.  Recent version here:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-kde/2002/debian-kde-200202/msg00097.html

Gustavo: A definitive version of this topic should also probably be put
into the APT HowTo:
http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/index.en.html
You could probably do a whole chapter on pinning & APT::Default-Release
and how to pull packages, and apt-get upgrade properly,
replacing your current section 3.7.  :) ]

Robert & Donald:  Please see my questions to you, below.

References (these are slightly edited, mostly deletions for conciseness):
==
==

From: Grant Bowman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Pinning Unstable: Woody use of Evolution

For all those that are using Woody but would like to sometimes run a few
packages from Sid, this fix works like a charm.

/etc/apt/preferences

Package: *
Pin: release a=unstable
Pin-Priority: 50

/etc/apt/sources.list

deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free

What will these lines do?  Pinning the priority of unstable to 50 makes
it so that these packages are never automatically selected for upgrade.
The sources.list line is needed so that packages that are not in woody
are installed with `apt-get evolution` (for example).  Dependencies are
handled correctly and the system remains on Woody packages with the
exceptions of the explicitly loaded ones.

===
From: Christoph Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: apt-show-versions

apt-show-versions is a script which eases maintenance of mixed
stable/testing or testing/unstable systems. While beeing able to
update the packages from your *main* distribution with apt-get upgrade
it is quite difficult to do the same for the *not-main*
packages. While you can use the pinning feature of apt if these are
only a few it is quite annoying to put all the package names in
apt/preferences which should be pinned. Like in one of my installation
where I have 247 packages from stable and 229 from testing.

Try

  apt-show-versions | fgrep /testing | wc

to see how many packages you have from testing or

  apt-show-versions -u

to see a list of packages which are upgradeable either to stable or
testing or unstable or

  apt-get install `apt-show-versions -u -b | fgrep unstable`

to upgrade all unstable packages to their newest versions.
==

From: Robert McQueen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Mixing Debian releases the easy way

As w

Re: OT: Need help from bash experts...

[Jesse Goerz]

On Monday 11 February 2002 21:22, Neal Lippman wrote:
[...]
> At a bash prompt, I can issue either:
> cp "/mount/windows/spaced name/*" target
> OR
> cp /mount/windows/spaced\ name/* target
> and all works fine.
>
> However, from within a bash script, something like:
>
> #!/bin/sh
> sourcedir=/mount/windows/spaced\ name
> cp $sourcedir/* target
>
> fails, because the space isn't properly passed to cp, AND
> further the shell doesn't do expansion on the wild card in the
> file name.
>
> I have tried all sorts of variants:
> sourcedir="/mount/windows/spaced\ name"
> sourcedir="/mount/windows/spaced\\ name"
> sourcedir=/mount/windows/spaced\\ name"

#!/bin/bash
# title: do_it

sourcedir='spaced name'
destdir=done
cp -R "${sourcedir}" ${destdir}

It should also handle any other nasty names below that.  Of 
course, you'll need to test it more than this.  Here's a simple 
test:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/bin/testing$ ls
do_it  spaced name
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/bin/testing$ ls spaced\ name/
num 3  num1  num2
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/bin/testing$ ./do_it 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/bin/testing$ ls
do_it  done  spaced name
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/bin/testing$ ls done
num 3  num1  num2
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/bin/testing$

hth,
Jesse

Re: OT: Need help from bash experts...

[Ron Johnson]

On Mon, 11 Feb 2002 21:22:06 -0500
Neal Lippman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

[snip]
> I have tried all sorts of variants:
> sourcedir="/mount/windows/spaced\ name"
> sourcedir="/mount/windows/spaced\\ name"
> sourcedir=/mount/windows/spaced\\ name"

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cat tst.sh
#!/bin/sh
d="foo bar"
cd "$d"  # < note the quotes
pwd

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ./tst.sh
/home/me/foo bar

The issue is that without the quotes around $d, bash thinks that
d contains a list of words.  This is a very handy programming 
feature in many cases, but one where you have to work around here.

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Re: dselect and resolving

[John Cichy]

On Monday 11 February 2002 21:32, Richard Cobbe wrote:
> Lo, on Monday, February 11, John Cichy did write:
> > Hello all,
> >
> > It seems the dselect ignores the host file when updating it's lists. I
> > have a debian mirror in my DMZ and have added an entry in my hosts file
> > to use an internal address to access the mirror, but it seems that
> > dselect is ignoring that entry and trying the public address instead.
> > Does anyone know how to make dselect look at the hosts file, my host.conf
> > has the entry :
> >
> > order hosts,bind
> >
> > so I would think that it would resolve to the address in the host file.
>
> I'm not entirely sure how this works, but there's a very good chance
> that /etc/nsswitch.conf is more significant than /etc/host.conf.  What
> does the `hosts' line say from nsswitch.conf?

hosts   files dns

John

Re: OT: Need help from bash experts...

[Eric G . Miller]

On Mon, 11 Feb 2002 21:22:06 -0500, Neal Lippman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Sorry for OT posting; I am not sure if there is a newsgroups for bash 
> experts, so I figured I'd try here.
> 
> I need to be able to write a bash script that can copy files from a directory 
> who's name includes a space (long story, but it's a windows directory under 
> Win98 on a machine on my network).
> 
> Anyway, supposing that the directory is "/mount/windows/spaced name" and I 
> need to copy all of the files in the directory to a target.
> 
> At a bash prompt, I can issue either:
> cp "/mount/windows/spaced name/*" target 
> OR
> cp /mount/windows/spaced\ name/* target
> and all works fine.
> 
> However, from within a bash script, something like:
> 
> #!/bin/sh
> sourcedir=/mount/windows/spaced\ name
> cp $sourcedir/* target

  cp "${sourcedir}"/* target

Need the "*" outside the quotes since it's the shell doing the globbing, 
not "cp".

-- 
Eric G. Miller 

Re: dselect and resolving

[Richard Cobbe]

Lo, on Monday, February 11, John Cichy did write:

> Hello all,
> 
> It seems the dselect ignores the host file when updating it's lists. I have a 
> debian mirror in my DMZ and have added an entry in my hosts file to use an 
> internal address to access the mirror, but it seems that dselect is ignoring 
> that entry and trying the public address instead. Does anyone know how to 
> make dselect look at the hosts file, my host.conf has the entry :
> 
> order hosts,bind
> 
> so I would think that it would resolve to the address in the host file.

I'm not entirely sure how this works, but there's a very good chance
that /etc/nsswitch.conf is more significant than /etc/host.conf.  What
does the `hosts' line say from nsswitch.conf?

Richard

Re: OT: Need help from bash experts...

[Geoff Ludwiczak]

On Mon, Feb 11, 2002 at 09:22:06PM -0500, Neal Lippman wrote:
> Sorry for OT posting; I am not sure if there is a newsgroups for bash 
> experts, so I figured I'd try here.

I'm no bash expert, I'll try though.

> 
> I need to be able to write a bash script that can copy files from a directory 
> who's name includes a space (long story, but it's a windows directory under 
> Win98 on a machine on my network).
> 
> Anyway, supposing that the directory is "/mount/windows/spaced name" and I 
> need to copy all of the files in the directory to a target.
> 
> At a bash prompt, I can issue either:
> cp "/mount/windows/spaced name/*" target 
> OR
> cp /mount/windows/spaced\ name/* target
> and all works fine.

You could also do cp -r /mount/windows/spaced\ name/ target
(if you want the subdirectories included too)

> 
> However, from within a bash script, something like:
> 
> #!/bin/sh
> sourcedir=/mount/windows/spaced\ name
> cp $sourcedir/* target
> 
> fails, because the space isn't properly passed to cp, AND further the shell 
> doesn't do expansion on the wild card in the file name.
> 
> I have tried all sorts of variants:
> sourcedir="/mount/windows/spaced\ name"
> sourcedir="/mount/windows/spaced\\ name"
> sourcedir=/mount/windows/spaced\\ name"

You don't need the \'s if you're using double quotes I believe.
Just do: sourcedir="/mount/windows/spaced name"

> 
> and the cp command with various quotes and not quotes, and cannot seem to get 
> this to work. Within the script, if I try:
> 
> sourcedir="mount/windows/spaced\ name"
> anotherdir="mount/windows"
> echo $sourcedir/*
> echo $anotherdir/*
> 

Okay, when you do the cp, make sure cp knows the first argument has spaces, so
do:
somedir="/mount/windows/spaced name"
cp -r "$somedir" target

or whatever, otherwise, cp gets confused and thinks the spaces seperate
different arguments

> the first echo shows that there is no expansion of the wild card, while the 
> second echo works as expected, echoing the name of every file in 
> /mount/windows.
> 
> Clearly the problem is that dreadful space in the directory name. Any help on 
> how to syntax this greatly appreciated.
> 
> Thanks.
> N
> 
> 
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Re: start-stop-daemon and quoting in arguments

[Eric G . Miller]

On Tue, 12 Feb 2002 02:54:53 +0100, Karsten Heymann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi list,
> 
> somehow I'm lost with start-stop-daemon and quoting. I'm trying to let 
> a self-recompiled slapd server both ldap and ldaps. When invoked from
> the command line with
> 
>   slapd -d 255 -h "ldap:/// ldaps:///"
>  
> the debug output shows that both options are accepted. But I don't
> manage to create that line with start-stop-daemon. I've tried any
> combination of quoting the '"', the blank between the two entries or
> quoting nothing, none of them worked. Some examples:
> 
> start-stop-daemon --start --exec /usr/bin/slapd -- -h "ldap:/// ldaps:///"
> start-stop-daemon --start --exec /usr/bin/slapd -- -h "\"ldap:/// ldaps:///\""
> start-stop-daemon --start --exec /usr/bin/slapd -- -h "ldap:///\ ldaps:///"
> start-stop-daemon --start --exec /usr/bin/slapd -- -h "ldap:///\\ ldaps:///"
> 
> None of them worked. I feel really stuck. Please help me :-}

MYARG="ldap:/// ldaps:///"
DAEMON=/usr/bin/slapd

test -x $DAEMON || exit 0

...

   start-stop-daemon --start --exec $DAEMON -- -h "$MYARG"

...  

Single quotes also work 'ldap:/// ldaps:///'

-- 
Eric G. Miller 

Re: Locales and Java

[Oki DZ]

On Mon, 11 Feb 2002, Andreas von Heydwolff wrote:
> :~$ vvstartdictation
> Starting ViaVoice Dictation
> Java must be installed for ViaVoice Dictation to work.
> Please wait while Java initializes...
> java.util.MissingResourceException: Can't find bundle for base name 
> com.ibm.speechapps.speakpad.resources.spstrings, locale de_AT

It seems that Java could not find the classes (in com.ibm.speechapps.*). 
I don't think that the rpm package (alien) would install the jar files
correctly (in the right places) in Debian. You can try to put the jar
files from the rpm in /usr/lib/j2sdk1.3/jre/lib/ext. The jar files in the
ext directory will always be loaded by the JVM; will be searched in, to be
exact.

Oki
 

OT: Need help from bash experts...

[Neal Lippman]

Sorry for OT posting; I am not sure if there is a newsgroups for bash 
experts, so I figured I'd try here.

I need to be able to write a bash script that can copy files from a directory 
who's name includes a space (long story, but it's a windows directory under 
Win98 on a machine on my network).

Anyway, supposing that the directory is "/mount/windows/spaced name" and I 
need to copy all of the files in the directory to a target.

At a bash prompt, I can issue either:
cp "/mount/windows/spaced name/*" target 
OR
cp /mount/windows/spaced\ name/* target
and all works fine.

However, from within a bash script, something like:

#!/bin/sh
sourcedir=/mount/windows/spaced\ name
cp $sourcedir/* target

fails, because the space isn't properly passed to cp, AND further the shell 
doesn't do expansion on the wild card in the file name.

I have tried all sorts of variants:
sourcedir="/mount/windows/spaced\ name"
sourcedir="/mount/windows/spaced\\ name"
sourcedir=/mount/windows/spaced\\ name"

and the cp command with various quotes and not quotes, and cannot seem to get 
this to work. Within the script, if I try:

sourcedir="mount/windows/spaced\ name"
anotherdir="mount/windows"
echo $sourcedir/*
echo $anotherdir/*

the first echo shows that there is no expansion of the wild card, while the 
second echo works as expected, echoing the name of every file in 
/mount/windows.

Clearly the problem is that dreadful space in the directory name. Any help on 
how to syntax this greatly appreciated.

Thanks.
N

Re: mp3 and background

[Geoff Ludwiczak]

I recognized that background immediately, it's from one of largo's window
maker themes I think, check out his page, http://largo.windowmaker.org

It's in his themes section

On Mon, Feb 11, 2002 at 02:46:44PM -0500, Scott Henson wrote:
> On Mon, 2002-02-11 at 14:19, Michi Onken wrote:
> > > Now on this auction was a screen shot with a
> > > great background.  I was wondering if anyone could tell me where I could
> > > find some good backgrounds for gnome(this one was of an angel).  Thank
> > > you for any help.
> > 
> > Nice sources for wallpapers are e.g. www.themes.org and
> > www.digitalblasphemy.com, i think  you'll find some nice backgrounds;-)
> > 
> Thanks cool stuff, but does anyone know where I might find this
> background. 
> 
> http://www.webtechnologist.com/1/images/sexlinux2.jpg
> 
> -- 
> -Scott Henson
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
>  "Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty: power is ever stealing from
> the many to the few.  The manna of popular liberty must be gathered each
> day, or it is rotten... The hand entrusted with power becomes, either
> from human depravity or esprit de corps, the necessary enemy of the
> people.  Only by continual oversight can the democrat in office be
> prevented from hardening into a despot: only by unintermitted agitation
> can a people be kept sufficiently awake to principle not to let liberty
> be smothered in material prosperity... Never look, for an age when the
> people can be quiet and safe.  At such times despotism, like a shrouding
> mist, steals over the mirror of Freedom"
> - Wendell Phillips
> 
> 
> 
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XFree 4.1 with DGA in Potato?

[Paolo Falcone]

Hello:

I'm currently using C.P. Botha's XFree 4.1 debianized for Potato.

I have this little problem with DGA mode - whenever I try to full-screen an
full-SVGA app (like SNES9x), it doesn't go to full screen. Looking at the 
console output, it said that xlib doesn't have DGA-support compiled. how do i
enable full DGA support in X then? or is there a separate download for X with
DGA support enabled?


Paolo Falcone

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Re: Sharing network from VMWare client

[Joseph Dane]

> "C-Cose" == C-Cose Masters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
 C-Cose> My questions are then:

 C-Cose> 1. Would I be able to change the vmnet IP to something in the
 C-Cose> 10.x.x.x range? Assuming that would also involve netmask
 C-Cose> changes, what would they be?

you can do this, although I can't recall the terminology vmware uses.
"bridged networking" springs to mind, but I could be wrong.  at any
rate, it's the other of the two options from the one you are using.

but, ...

 C-Cose> 2. Would it be easier to us either forwarding or masquing to
 C-Cose> allow traffic from vmnet1 access to the net through eth0?

IMHO, yes.  this is what I do, and it works great. it means you don't
have to worry about getting a "real" address from your network
people.

 C-Cose> 3. I have none of the "advanced" net packages included:
 C-Cose> ie. ipmasq, ipchains / tables. Which of these would I need.

I think with 2.2 kernels you can use ipchains, which appears to be in
it's own "ipchains" package.  the downside is that you have to
have a kernel that has a few options turned on which are not I think
normally on.  there is a very well written HOWTO on firewalls and
masquerading around somewhere that explain how to do this.

once the kernel is setup, and you've got ipchains installed, you just
do

 # ipchains -A forward -s 192.168.46.0/24 -j MASQ

you will get a warning about enabling forwarding by twiddling a file
in /proc somewhere.  do that, and you're on the net.

-- 

joe

start-stop-daemon and quoting in arguments

[Karsten Heymann]

Hi list,

somehow I'm lost with start-stop-daemon and quoting. I'm trying to let 
a self-recompiled slapd server both ldap and ldaps. When invoked from
the command line with

  slapd -d 255 -h "ldap:/// ldaps:///"
 
the debug output shows that both options are accepted. But I don't
manage to create that line with start-stop-daemon. I've tried any
combination of quoting the '"', the blank between the two entries or
quoting nothing, none of them worked. Some examples:

start-stop-daemon --start --exec /usr/bin/slapd -- -h "ldap:/// ldaps:///"
start-stop-daemon --start --exec /usr/bin/slapd -- -h "\"ldap:/// ldaps:///\""
start-stop-daemon --start --exec /usr/bin/slapd -- -h "ldap:///\ ldaps:///"
start-stop-daemon --start --exec /usr/bin/slapd -- -h "ldap:///\\ ldaps:///"

None of them worked. I feel really stuck. Please help me :-}

In advance,

Karsten

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CAU-University Kiel, Germany
Registered Linux User #221014  (http://counter.li.org)

Re: Package a single binary.

[Joey Hess]

Blake Barnett wrote:
> I've actually built quite a few packages for Debian.  Just never a
> single binary.  All the tools want a complete source-tree to do so.  I
> have a pre-compiled, stand-alone binary (only requires libc6) and want 
> to make a deb so I can make it part of a virtual package which will
> install all dependancies for a certain 'class/type' of machine I have. 
> 
> I also don't have the source, or say for example.. it's a perl script..
> or some bash scripts.. how would you do it?

mkdir -p mypkg/usr/bin mypkg/DEBIAN
cp binary mypkg/usr/bin
cat > mypkg/DEBIAN/control
Package: mypackage
Version: 1
Architecture: i386
Maintainer: Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Description: my little package
 Don't expect much.
^D
dpkg-deb -b mypkg

Disclaimer: I know the debian packaging system a little bit better then
most people. :-) Nevertheless, this kind of quick-n-dirty thing can be
really handy.

-- 
see shy jo

Re: SCCS question

[stan]

On Mon, Feb 11, 2002 at 09:13:14PM +, Timothy Bedding wrote:
> Does anyone here know of someone sympathetic
> to free software development who might have access
> to a machine that runs SCCS?
> 
> I want to know because of work needing to be done
> on CSSC, the free equivalent.
> 
> 
I have it on my HP's, what do you wnat to know?

-- 
"They that would give up essential liberty for temporary safety deserve
neither liberty nor safety."
-- Benjamin Franklin

Re: dselect and resolving

[John Cichy]

On Monday 11 February 2002 19:04, Michel Loos wrote:
> Em Seg, 2002-02-11 às 21:42, John Cichy escreveu:
> > On Monday 11 February 2002 18:40, Michel Loos wrote:
> > > Em Seg, 2002-02-11 às 21:19, John Cichy escreveu:
> > > > On Monday 11 February 2002 18:15, Osamu Aoki wrote:
> > > > > On Mon, Feb 11, 2002 at 08:43:25PM -0200, Michel Loos wrote:
> > > > > > Em Seg, 2002-02-11 ?s 13:50, John Cichy escreveu:
> > > > > > > Hello all,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > It seems the dselect ignores the host file when updating it's
> > > > > > > lists. I have a debian mirror in my DMZ and have added an entry
> > > > > > > in my hosts file to use an internal address to access the
> > > > > > > mirror, but it seems that dselect is ignoring that entry and
> > > > > > > trying the public address instead. Does anyone know how to make
> > > > > > > dselect look at the hosts file, my host.conf has the entry :
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > order hosts,bind
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > so I would think that it would resolve to the address in the
> > > > > > > host file.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Did you add your mirror in the /etc/apt/sources.list ?
> > > > > > If you did, apt-get update (or dselect -> update) should check
> > > > > > your mirror.
> > > > >
> > > > > For "dselect", "apt-get update" is not enough.  You need to make
> > > > > sure to run "dselect update".  That what previous post by a debian
> > > > > developer, as I remember.
> > > > >
> > > > > > Usually they still will connect to the public server for download
> > > > > > since probably your mirror is not as uptodate as the public
> > > > > > server
> > > >
> > > > This machine was built on the private network from my mirror, not
> > > > from the the public server. The problem is that now that the machine
> > > > is in the DMZ it is it is using my dns which is resolving to the
> > > > public address, not what is in it's hosts file.
> > >
> > > Let me get that right: your mirror is named http.us.debian.org in your
> > > hosts file?
> >
> > No, my host file contains an entry for:
> >
> > enterprisepenguin.com   LOCAL IP
> >
> > my sources.list file has entries:
> >
> > http://enterprisepenguin.com/distributions/debian/
> >
> > and dselect tries to connect to my public IP for enterprisepenguin.com
> > rather then the LOCAL IP in the hosts file.
>
> In fact it the same thing use another name in your hosts file and point
> sources.list to that one, this works at least if your DMZ zone accept
> port 80 connections to your mirror from inside. I have the same sort of
> set-up.

I just tried this:

192.168.2.40enterprisepenguin.com   mirror

and changed only one entry in the sources list to mirror with an interesting 
result, mirror returned a 404 not found error (expected because of named 
based virtual host) and then the enterprisepenguin.com [PUBLIC IP] entry 
hung. This say to me that dselect is doing the opisite of what of what I have 
my host.conf file set up is, i.e. it looked in dns first (and found the 
enterprisepenguin.com entry), then looked in the hosts file (and found 
mirror). The host.conf says:

order hosts,dns

Any thoughts? 

John

Re: Arbitrarily setting From: header in Mutt

[Craig Dickson]

begin  csj  quotation:

> This is partly a test of my spanking new Mutt installation. So excuse me if
> some things like mail wrap fails.
> 
> My question: how do I arbitrarily set the From: header in Mutt. I know about
> stuff like my_hdr and /etc/email-addresses. What I want to know is if
> there's a way to do it so I don't have to muck with the config files every
> time I want to send mail under a different persona, something like an
> addressbook for myself.
> 
> Let's say I want to send two consecutive emails first as "fooman <[EMAIL 
> PROTECTED]>"
> and then as "chu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>".

Put this in your .muttrc:

  set edit_headers

Then you'll get to mangle the headers however you want every time you
edit a message.

Craig


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Re: max # of processes in debian testing

[Yven J. Leist]

On Monday 11 February 2002 19:19, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> It looks like the default max number of processes in Debian testing is 300
> processes. How can this be increased? Any input would be appricated.
> Thanks!
>
> Oh, on i386. :)
the maximum number of processes can be set with the ulimit command (man 
bash); to set this value you can simply put a line in your .bashrc or 
/etc/profile that says something like for instance "ulimit -u 1000".
cheers,
Yven
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http://www.leist.beldesign.de

Re: Package a single binary.

[Blake Barnett]

I've actually built quite a few packages for Debian.  Just never a
single binary.  All the tools want a complete source-tree to do so.  I
have a pre-compiled, stand-alone binary (only requires libc6) and want 
to make a deb so I can make it part of a virtual package which will
install all dependancies for a certain 'class/type' of machine I have. 

I also don't have the source, or say for example.. it's a perl script..
or some bash scripts.. how would you do it?


On Mon, 2002-02-11 at 17:52, csj wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 11, 2002 at 04:58:43PM -0700, Blake Barnett wrote:
> > What's the simplest way to package a single binary?  It just needs to be
> > installed in a certain directory with certain permissions.  Should I
> > just create a custom Makefile with an install section to 'install' it?  
> > 
> > Is there a simpler way?
> > 
> 
> apt-cache show dpkg-dev devscripts | pager
-- 
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Sr. Unix Administrator
DevelopOnline.com office: 480-377-6816

Learning is a skill, you get better at it with practice.

Re: downgrade a package

[Thomas Cook]

> Christian Schoenebeck wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> 
> I upgraded package 'kinkatta' with
> 
> apt-get -t unstable install kinkatta
> 
> to the unstable version. That was a mistake. How can
> I 'downgrade' again?

apt-get remove kinkatta
apt-get install kinkatta/stable

Tom

Re: mail notification

[Thomas Cook]

Check out 'man sh' and in particular the MAILPATH variable.  In brief,
setting it to '/var/spool/mail/my_user_name?"You have mail."' will cause
it to print "You have mail." when you receive mail.  If you can work
control-G into that message then it should beep when you receive mail,
assuming that bash works the same as sh and that control-G is the same
ascii value as it was on the old Z80 based amstrad machines ;-)

Good luck!

Tom

Chris Jenks wrote:
> 
> At 01:21 PM 2/11/02, Cheryl Homiak wrote:
> >Of course, I realize that one solution for this is to keep Pine open all
> >the time in one of my consoles, but I wondered whether or not there are
> >other solutions.
> >
> >--
> > Cheryl
> 
> I know that biff is used for mail notification. Not exactly sure how it is
> used,
> but it something to check into.
> 
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Re: Package a single binary.

[Ron Johnson]

On 11 Feb 2002 16:58:43 -0700
Blake Barnett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> What's the simplest way to package a single binary?  It just needs to be
> installed in a certain directory with certain permissions.  Should I
> just create a custom Makefile with an install section to 'install' it?  
> 
> Is there a simpler way?

sharutils might help.

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Re: Package a single binary.

[csj]

On Mon, Feb 11, 2002 at 04:58:43PM -0700, Blake Barnett wrote:
> What's the simplest way to package a single binary?  It just needs to be
> installed in a certain directory with certain permissions.  Should I
> just create a custom Makefile with an install section to 'install' it?  
> 
> Is there a simpler way?
> 

apt-cache show dpkg-dev devscripts | pager

Re: dselect and resolving

[John Cichy]

On Monday 11 February 2002 19:34, Thomas Cook wrote:
> John Cichy wrote:
>
> [snip!]
>
> This has caused enough confusion!  Why do you _need_ to use the symbolic
> name for the mirror???  Why not just use the IP address in
> sources.list?  Like this:
>
> deb ftp://192.168.83.4/debian stable main contrib non-free

Because it is on a virtual server, if you use the IP you hit the top level 
server which does not have access to the directorys in question.

> Regards
> Tom

Re: dselect and resolving

[Thomas Cook]

John Cichy wrote:

[snip!]

This has caused enough confusion!  Why do you _need_ to use the symbolic
name for the mirror???  Why not just use the IP address in
sources.list?  Like this:

deb ftp://192.168.83.4/debian stable main contrib non-free

or whatever your local ip address is.

Regards
Tom

Arbitrarily setting From: header in Mutt

[csj]

This is partly a test of my spanking new Mutt installation. So excuse me if
some things like mail wrap fails.

My question: how do I arbitrarily set the From: header in Mutt. I know about
stuff like my_hdr and /etc/email-addresses. What I want to know is if
there's a way to do it so I don't have to muck with the config files every
time I want to send mail under a different persona, something like an
addressbook for myself.

Let's say I want to send two consecutive emails first as "fooman <[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]>"
and then as "chu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>".

Sharing network from VMWare client

[C-Cose Masters]

Greetings,

After haveing RTFM'd relevant sources wrt host-client networking for
VMWare, I am still not able to connect to outside networks (ie www,
email, etc.) from any VM guest (curr W98).

Although the VMWare docs and Compton's "VMWare 2 for Linux" are ~very~
descriptive, they are neither informative nor ~illustrative~ about
configuring this combination to work.

Some of you may already know that VMWare accomplishes networking through
virtual interfaces. All the docs describe networking configurations that
~assume~ IP's of both physical and virtual interfaces to be on the same
subnet (or group of them). However, my setup is as follows (output from
ifconfig):

# --- start ifconfig

eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:00:B4:A2:0C:9B  
  inet addr:10.169.239.186  Bcast:10.255.255.255  Mask:255.255.255.248
  UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:2454004 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:1740188 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:627 txqueuelen:100 
  Interrupt:9 Base address:0xe400 

loLink encap:Local Loopback  
  inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
  UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:3924  Metric:1
  RX packets:963335 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:963335 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 

vmnet1Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:50:56:01:00:00  
  inet addr:192.168.46.1  Bcast:192.168.46.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
  UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:1221 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:100 

# --- end ifconfig

As you can see, my eth0 and vmnet1 (virtual interface) are on completely
different IP nets.

I believe that this is where my difficulty is in accessing the
"internet" from within a VM guest OS. 

To further complicate matters, although I have a static eth0 IP, I can't
change the IP of the vmnet1 to be within this range, as there are no
free IP's within the 10.169.239.x range (according to my ISP).

My questions are then:

1.  Would I be able to change the vmnet IP to something in the 10.x.x.x
range? Assuming that would also involve netmask changes, what would they
be?

2.  Would it be easier to us either forwarding or masquing to allow
traffic from vmnet1 access to the net through eth0?

3.  I have none of the "advanced" net packages included: ie. ipmasq,
ipchains / tables. Which of these would I need.

Also, I am running Potato2.2r5 (stock with upgrade to 2.2.20 kernel).

I would like to be able to install a 2nd Potato as a VMWare guest and
use it as a testing ground for upgrading to Woody (and for testing
source compiled apps) before installing them in my main system in the
future. However, if I can't get access to the net, I won't be able to
use apt-get and other features of Debian.

I could really use some help.

TIA,
C. Masters






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Re: dselect and resolving

[John Cichy]

On Monday 11 February 2002 19:04, Michel Loos wrote:
> Em Seg, 2002-02-11 às 21:42, John Cichy escreveu:
> > On Monday 11 February 2002 18:40, Michel Loos wrote:
> > > Em Seg, 2002-02-11 às 21:19, John Cichy escreveu:
> > > > On Monday 11 February 2002 18:15, Osamu Aoki wrote:
> > > > > On Mon, Feb 11, 2002 at 08:43:25PM -0200, Michel Loos wrote:
> > > > > > Em Seg, 2002-02-11 ?s 13:50, John Cichy escreveu:
> > > > > > > Hello all,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > It seems the dselect ignores the host file when updating it's
> > > > > > > lists. I have a debian mirror in my DMZ and have added an entry
> > > > > > > in my hosts file to use an internal address to access the
> > > > > > > mirror, but it seems that dselect is ignoring that entry and
> > > > > > > trying the public address instead. Does anyone know how to make
> > > > > > > dselect look at the hosts file, my host.conf has the entry :
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > order hosts,bind
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > so I would think that it would resolve to the address in the
> > > > > > > host file.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Did you add your mirror in the /etc/apt/sources.list ?
> > > > > > If you did, apt-get update (or dselect -> update) should check
> > > > > > your mirror.
> > > > >
> > > > > For "dselect", "apt-get update" is not enough.  You need to make
> > > > > sure to run "dselect update".  That what previous post by a debian
> > > > > developer, as I remember.
> > > > >
> > > > > > Usually they still will connect to the public server for download
> > > > > > since probably your mirror is not as uptodate as the public
> > > > > > server
> > > >
> > > > This machine was built on the private network from my mirror, not
> > > > from the the public server. The problem is that now that the machine
> > > > is in the DMZ it is it is using my dns which is resolving to the
> > > > public address, not what is in it's hosts file.
> > >
> > > Let me get that right: your mirror is named http.us.debian.org in your
> > > hosts file?
> >
> > No, my host file contains an entry for:
> >
> > enterprisepenguin.com   LOCAL IP
> >
> > my sources.list file has entries:
> >
> > http://enterprisepenguin.com/distributions/debian/
> >
> > and dselect tries to connect to my public IP for enterprisepenguin.com
> > rather then the LOCAL IP in the hosts file.
>
> In fact it the same thing use another name in your hosts file and point
> sources.list to that one, this works at least if your DMZ zone accept
> port 80 connections to your mirror from inside. I have the same sort of
> set-up.
>
> You can even use an IP in sources.list instead of a hostname.
>
> If there is still a problem it comes from your second router.

I guess my router/firewall could be a little more forgiving, and if dselect 
will not look at the hosts file, I guess it will have to be. But getting it 
to use the host file just seems better, why run the traffic across the router 
if the machines can just talk through the switch?

John

Re: dselect and resolving

[Michel Loos]

Em Seg, 2002-02-11 às 21:42, John Cichy escreveu:
> On Monday 11 February 2002 18:40, Michel Loos wrote:
> > Em Seg, 2002-02-11 às 21:19, John Cichy escreveu:
> > > On Monday 11 February 2002 18:15, Osamu Aoki wrote:
> > > > On Mon, Feb 11, 2002 at 08:43:25PM -0200, Michel Loos wrote:
> > > > > Em Seg, 2002-02-11 ?s 13:50, John Cichy escreveu:
> > > > > > Hello all,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It seems the dselect ignores the host file when updating it's
> > > > > > lists. I have a debian mirror in my DMZ and have added an entry in
> > > > > > my hosts file to use an internal address to access the mirror, but
> > > > > > it seems that dselect is ignoring that entry and trying the public
> > > > > > address instead. Does anyone know how to make dselect look at the
> > > > > > hosts file, my host.conf has the entry :
> > > > > >
> > > > > > order hosts,bind
> > > > > >
> > > > > > so I would think that it would resolve to the address in the host
> > > > > > file.
> > > > >
> > > > > Did you add your mirror in the /etc/apt/sources.list ?
> > > > > If you did, apt-get update (or dselect -> update) should check your
> > > > > mirror.
> > > >
> > > > For "dselect", "apt-get update" is not enough.  You need to make sure
> > > > to run "dselect update".  That what previous post by a debian
> > > > developer, as I remember.
> > > >
> > > > > Usually they still will connect to the public server for download
> > > > > since probably your mirror is not as uptodate as the public server
> > >
> > > This machine was built on the private network from my mirror, not from
> > > the the public server. The problem is that now that the machine is in the
> > > DMZ it is it is using my dns which is resolving to the public address,
> > > not what is in it's hosts file.
> >
> > Let me get that right: your mirror is named http.us.debian.org in your
> > hosts file?
> No, my host file contains an entry for:
> 
> enterprisepenguin.com LOCAL IP
> 
> my sources.list file has entries:
> 
> http://enterprisepenguin.com/distributions/debian/
> 
> and dselect tries to connect to my public IP for enterprisepenguin.com rather 
> then the LOCAL IP in the hosts file.
>

In fact it the same thing use another name in your hosts file and point
sources.list to that one, this works at least if your DMZ zone accept
port 80 connections to your mirror from inside. I have the same sort of
set-up.

You can even use an IP in sources.list instead of a hostname.

If there is still a problem it comes from your second router.

Michel.

Re: dselect and resolving

[John Cichy]

On Monday 11 February 2002 18:42, John Cichy wrote:
> On Monday 11 February 2002 18:40, Michel Loos wrote:
> > Em Seg, 2002-02-11 às 21:19, John Cichy escreveu:
> > > On Monday 11 February 2002 18:15, Osamu Aoki wrote:
> > > > On Mon, Feb 11, 2002 at 08:43:25PM -0200, Michel Loos wrote:
> > > > > Em Seg, 2002-02-11 ?s 13:50, John Cichy escreveu:
> > > > > > Hello all,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It seems the dselect ignores the host file when updating it's
> > > > > > lists. I have a debian mirror in my DMZ and have added an entry
> > > > > > in my hosts file to use an internal address to access the mirror,
> > > > > > but it seems that dselect is ignoring that entry and trying the
> > > > > > public address instead. Does anyone know how to make dselect look
> > > > > > at the hosts file, my host.conf has the entry :
> > > > > >
> > > > > > order hosts,bind
> > > > > >
> > > > > > so I would think that it would resolve to the address in the host
> > > > > > file.
> > > > >
> > > > > Did you add your mirror in the /etc/apt/sources.list ?
> > > > > If you did, apt-get update (or dselect -> update) should check your
> > > > > mirror.
> > > >
> > > > For "dselect", "apt-get update" is not enough.  You need to make sure
> > > > to run "dselect update".  That what previous post by a debian
> > > > developer, as I remember.
> > > >
> > > > > Usually they still will connect to the public server for download
> > > > > since probably your mirror is not as uptodate as the public server
> > >
> > > This machine was built on the private network from my mirror, not from
> > > the the public server. The problem is that now that the machine is in
> > > the DMZ it is it is using my dns which is resolving to the public
> > > address, not what is in it's hosts file.
> >
> > Let me get that right: your mirror is named http.us.debian.org in your
> > hosts file?
>
> No, my host file contains an entry for:
>
> enterprisepenguin.com LOCAL IP

sorry miss typed

LOCAL IPenterprisrpenguin.com


> my sources.list file has entries:
>
> http://enterprisepenguin.com/distributions/debian/
>
> and dselect tries to connect to my public IP for enterprisepenguin.com
> rather then the LOCAL IP in the hosts file.
>
> > That is not the correct way to do it, name it anything else (mirror for
> > ex.) and update the /etc/apt/sources.list file to point to this address.
> >
> > Michel.

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Package a single binary.

[Blake Barnett]

What's the simplest way to package a single binary?  It just needs to be
installed in a certain directory with certain permissions.  Should I
just create a custom Makefile with an install section to 'install' it?  

Is there a simpler way?

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Re: Geforce II under Xwindows

[Jay Mallar]

On Monday 11 February 2002  7:20 am, Ihab Mohsen wrote:
> For some reason I cant run any xserver for my Geforce
> II VE graphics card except the VGA_16 server so you
> can guess what the graphics are like...any ideas which
> server I should be running
>
> __
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings!
> http://greetings.yahoo.com

I have a GeForge2.

do some looking on the net (I can't remember the URLs I found) but you need 
to get X 4.1.0 (there's debs for potato).  There is a nv driver specifcally 
for the card.

Re: dselect and resolving

[John Cichy]

On Monday 11 February 2002 18:40, Michel Loos wrote:
> Em Seg, 2002-02-11 às 21:19, John Cichy escreveu:
> > On Monday 11 February 2002 18:15, Osamu Aoki wrote:
> > > On Mon, Feb 11, 2002 at 08:43:25PM -0200, Michel Loos wrote:
> > > > Em Seg, 2002-02-11 ?s 13:50, John Cichy escreveu:
> > > > > Hello all,
> > > > >
> > > > > It seems the dselect ignores the host file when updating it's
> > > > > lists. I have a debian mirror in my DMZ and have added an entry in
> > > > > my hosts file to use an internal address to access the mirror, but
> > > > > it seems that dselect is ignoring that entry and trying the public
> > > > > address instead. Does anyone know how to make dselect look at the
> > > > > hosts file, my host.conf has the entry :
> > > > >
> > > > > order hosts,bind
> > > > >
> > > > > so I would think that it would resolve to the address in the host
> > > > > file.
> > > >
> > > > Did you add your mirror in the /etc/apt/sources.list ?
> > > > If you did, apt-get update (or dselect -> update) should check your
> > > > mirror.
> > >
> > > For "dselect", "apt-get update" is not enough.  You need to make sure
> > > to run "dselect update".  That what previous post by a debian
> > > developer, as I remember.
> > >
> > > > Usually they still will connect to the public server for download
> > > > since probably your mirror is not as uptodate as the public server
> >
> > This machine was built on the private network from my mirror, not from
> > the the public server. The problem is that now that the machine is in the
> > DMZ it is it is using my dns which is resolving to the public address,
> > not what is in it's hosts file.
>
> Let me get that right: your mirror is named http.us.debian.org in your
> hosts file?
No, my host file contains an entry for:

enterprisepenguin.com   LOCAL IP

my sources.list file has entries:

http://enterprisepenguin.com/distributions/debian/

and dselect tries to connect to my public IP for enterprisepenguin.com rather 
then the LOCAL IP in the hosts file.

> That is not the correct way to do it, name it anything else (mirror for
> ex.) and update the /etc/apt/sources.list file to point to this address.
>
> Michel.

Re: dselect and resolving

[John Cichy]

On Monday 11 February 2002 17:43, Michel Loos wrote:
> Em Seg, 2002-02-11 às 13:50, John Cichy escreveu:
> > Hello all,
> >
> > It seems the dselect ignores the host file when updating it's lists. I
> > have a debian mirror in my DMZ and have added an entry in my hosts file
> > to use an internal address to access the mirror, but it seems that
> > dselect is ignoring that entry and trying the public address instead.
> > Does anyone know how to make dselect look at the hosts file, my host.conf
> > has the entry :
> >
> > order hosts,bind
> >
> > so I would think that it would resolve to the address in the host file.
> >
> > TIA,
> > John
>
> Did you add your mirror in the /etc/apt/sources.list ?
> If you did, apt-get update (or dselect -> update) should check your
> mirror.
>
> Usually they still will connect to the public server for download since
> probably your mirror is not as uptodate as the public server
>
> Michel.

The machine is not trying to connect to the public mirrors because I removed 
the public entries from the sources.list file. I have 15 machines that I am 
converting and 5 more that will be added. I created the mirror and set up a 
cron to keep me within about 4 hours of the public servers before I even 
started the conversion so I would limit the use of my 'conectivity' bandwidth 
and also to be 'kind' to the public servers. The problem is that dselect 
hangs while it is trying to connect to the mirror. This machine was built 
from my mirror while it was on my private network. The fact that it resolved 
to the public address while on the private network was ok because the 
router/firewall passes from private to DMZ. The mirror is a virtual web 
server on my primary web server so that does not allow me to just define the 
IP address of the mirror in the sources.list file. 

I can't seem to figure out a way to get dselect to resolve from the hosts 
file.

John

Re: dselect and resolving

[Michel Loos]

Em Seg, 2002-02-11 às 21:19, John Cichy escreveu:
> On Monday 11 February 2002 18:15, Osamu Aoki wrote:
> > On Mon, Feb 11, 2002 at 08:43:25PM -0200, Michel Loos wrote:
> > > Em Seg, 2002-02-11 ?s 13:50, John Cichy escreveu:
> > > > Hello all,
> > > >
> > > > It seems the dselect ignores the host file when updating it's lists. I
> > > > have a debian mirror in my DMZ and have added an entry in my hosts file
> > > > to use an internal address to access the mirror, but it seems that
> > > > dselect is ignoring that entry and trying the public address instead.
> > > > Does anyone know how to make dselect look at the hosts file, my
> > > > host.conf has the entry :
> > > >
> > > > order hosts,bind
> > > >
> > > > so I would think that it would resolve to the address in the host file.
> > >
> > > Did you add your mirror in the /etc/apt/sources.list ?
> > > If you did, apt-get update (or dselect -> update) should check your
> > > mirror.
> >
> > For "dselect", "apt-get update" is not enough.  You need to make sure to
> > run "dselect update".  That what previous post by a debian developer, as
> > I remember.
> >
> > > Usually they still will connect to the public server for download since
> > > probably your mirror is not as uptodate as the public server
> >
> This machine was built on the private network from my mirror, not from the 
> the public server. The problem is that now that the machine is in the DMZ it 
> is it is using my dns which is resolving to the public address, not what is 
> in it's hosts file.
> 
> 

Let me get that right: your mirror is named http.us.debian.org in your
hosts file? 
That is not the correct way to do it, name it anything else (mirror for
ex.) and update the /etc/apt/sources.list file to point to this address.

Michel.

Re: max # of processes in debian testing

[dman]

On Mon, Feb 11, 2002 at 01:19:04PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| It looks like the default max number of processes in Debian testing is 300
| processes. How can this be increased? Any input would be appricated.
| Thanks!
| 
| Oh, on i386. :)

man ulimit

(actually it's the bash manpage, type "/ulimit" to jump the part on
user limits)

$ ulimit -a | grep "user process"
max user processes(-u) 256

It seems that user's are allowed to change this, though it only
affects the shell it is set in.

-D

-- 

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Word has no place in our lives.
I John 1:10

Re: dselect and resolving

[John Cichy]

On Monday 11 February 2002 18:15, Osamu Aoki wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 11, 2002 at 08:43:25PM -0200, Michel Loos wrote:
> > Em Seg, 2002-02-11 ?s 13:50, John Cichy escreveu:
> > > Hello all,
> > >
> > > It seems the dselect ignores the host file when updating it's lists. I
> > > have a debian mirror in my DMZ and have added an entry in my hosts file
> > > to use an internal address to access the mirror, but it seems that
> > > dselect is ignoring that entry and trying the public address instead.
> > > Does anyone know how to make dselect look at the hosts file, my
> > > host.conf has the entry :
> > >
> > > order hosts,bind
> > >
> > > so I would think that it would resolve to the address in the host file.
> >
> > Did you add your mirror in the /etc/apt/sources.list ?
> > If you did, apt-get update (or dselect -> update) should check your
> > mirror.
>
> For "dselect", "apt-get update" is not enough.  You need to make sure to
> run "dselect update".  That what previous post by a debian developer, as
> I remember.
>
> > Usually they still will connect to the public server for download since
> > probably your mirror is not as uptodate as the public server
>
This machine was built on the private network from my mirror, not from the 
the public server. The problem is that now that the machine is in the DMZ it 
is it is using my dns which is resolving to the public address, not what is 
in it's hosts file.


John

Re: Locales and Java

[Andreas von Heydwolff]

Andreas von Heydwolff wrote:

Woody, i386. I got the US American ViaVoice rpms running but haven't 
dictated since the advent of the EURO made me define in /etc/profile


Thanks, Yven and ben. Will continue tomorrow and post results. I'm 
afraid however yer man hasn't got umlauts in the Irish locale.


Cheers,

Andreas

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Cannot open display: Success

Re: apt-get and 'deb file:\'

[Vineet Kumar]

* Tom Schuetz ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [020211 08:19]:
> I used to have debian 2.2 installed on one box, and at that time I was
> able to 'apt-get install foo.deb', where 'foo.deb' was   any file I'd
> just put into my working directory. The directory didn't was never
> mentioned in 'sources.list'. 

As others have said, try using dpkg to install individual .deb files. If
you would like apt to know about a local repository (like you have many,
many .debs that you'd like to be able to manage via dselect or apt) look
into dpkg-scanpackages. I've set this up without difficulty; feel free
to ask if you need more help.

good times,
Vineet

(P.S. Please wrap at column 72 in the future.)

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Re: max # of processes in debian testing

[Vineet Kumar]

* [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [020211 10:25]:
> It looks like the default max number of processes in Debian testing is 300
> processes. How can this be increased? Any input would be appricated.
> Thanks!
> 
> Oh, on i386. :)

This must be a kernel issue, not a debian-specific one. I don't have an
answer, and if nobody else here does either, you might try investigating
more kernel-oriented resources (resources as in research sources, not
MHz).

good times,
Vineet

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Re: dselect and resolving

[Osamu Aoki]

On Mon, Feb 11, 2002 at 08:43:25PM -0200, Michel Loos wrote:
> Em Seg, 2002-02-11 ?s 13:50, John Cichy escreveu:
> > Hello all,
> > 
> > It seems the dselect ignores the host file when updating it's lists. I have 
> > a 
> > debian mirror in my DMZ and have added an entry in my hosts file to use an 
> > internal address to access the mirror, but it seems that dselect is 
> > ignoring 
> > that entry and trying the public address instead. Does anyone know how to 
> > make dselect look at the hosts file, my host.conf has the entry :
> > 
> > order hosts,bind
> > 
> > so I would think that it would resolve to the address in the host file.
> > 
> 
> Did you add your mirror in the /etc/apt/sources.list ?
> If you did, apt-get update (or dselect -> update) should check your
> mirror.

For "dselect", "apt-get update" is not enough.  You need to make sure to
run "dselect update".  That what previous post by a debian developer, as
I remember.

> Usually they still will connect to the public server for download since
> probably your mirror is not as uptodate as the public server

Osamu
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Re: dselect and resolving

[Michel Loos]

Em Seg, 2002-02-11 às 13:50, John Cichy escreveu:
> Hello all,
> 
> It seems the dselect ignores the host file when updating it's lists. I have a 
> debian mirror in my DMZ and have added an entry in my hosts file to use an 
> internal address to access the mirror, but it seems that dselect is ignoring 
> that entry and trying the public address instead. Does anyone know how to 
> make dselect look at the hosts file, my host.conf has the entry :
> 
> order hosts,bind
> 
> so I would think that it would resolve to the address in the host file.
> 
> TIA,
> John
> 

Did you add your mirror in the /etc/apt/sources.list ?
If you did, apt-get update (or dselect -> update) should check your
mirror.

Usually they still will connect to the public server for download since
probably your mirror is not as uptodate as the public server

Michel.

Re: debconf 1.0.26 problems

[Stefan Bellon]

Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Stefan Bellon wrote:

> > I have Debian GNU/Linux unstable on my notebook. Since a few days I
> > have a problem: Whenever I install a packet that depends on
> > debconf, I get the following error messages during set-up:
> > 
> > Use of uninitialized value in substitution (s///) at
> > /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/Format/822.pm line 57, <$__ANONIO__> line
> > 483.
> > Use of uninitialized value in substitution (s///) at
> > /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/Format/822.pm line 57, <$__ANONIO__> line
> > 556.
> > Use of uninitialized value in substitution (s///) at
> > /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/Format/822.pm line 30, <$__ANONIO__> line
> > 722.

> This might be a problem with your debconf db. Send me
> /var/lib/debconf/*.db

There's no directory /var/lib/debconf on my system.

Greetings,

Stefan.

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Re: Locales and Java

[ben]

On Monday 11 February 2002 01:34 pm, Andreas von Heydwolff wrote:
> Woody, i386. I got the US American ViaVoice rpms running but haven't
> dictated since the advent of the EURO made me define in /etc/profile
>
> set [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> set [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> export LC_ALL LANG LANGUAGE
>
[snip]

i've never used viavoice under linux, but it seems like you could try using 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ireland is the only english speaking country that also uses 
the 
euro symbol.

ben

SCCS question

[Timothy Bedding]

Does anyone here know of someone sympathetic
to free software development who might have access
to a machine that runs SCCS?

I want to know because of work needing to be done
on CSSC, the free equivalent.


As you know, a lot of GNU software is useful
to Debian users. So, I was hoping someone here
might be able to help.

Regards
Tim

Re: Locales and Java

[Yven J. Leist]

On Monday 11 February 2002 22:34, Andreas von Heydwolff wrote:
> Woody, i386. I got the US American ViaVoice rpms running but haven't
> dictated since the advent of the EURO made me define in /etc/profile
>
> set [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> set [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> export LC_ALL LANG LANGUAGE
>
> Can this be the reason for the error messages appended below that now
> show up when I start the program?

It is exactly the reason for your problem, but it's strange that viavoice 
does not simply use the default language as fallback, the way it actually  
should. I'm even tempted to say that this is  bug in viavoice, although there 
might be something else that is broken, of course.
As a workaround you could try to find out where viavoice stores it's 
resource files and copy for example the file viavoice_de.properties to 
viavoice_at.properties; 
these files might be in a jar file though which of course further complicates 
the whole matter...
If you do not need to have this locale set when running viavoice then it 
might be simpler to make a small wrapper script that exports or unsets the 
locale variables and then starts viavoice.
cheers,
Yven 

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Re: downgrade a package

[Vineet Kumar]

* Christian Schoenebeck ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [020211 11:39]:
> apt-get -t unstable install kinkatta
> 
> to the unstable version. That was a mistake. How can
> I 'downgrade' again?

Are you using /etc/apt/preferences ? Try setting a pin >1000 for the
verision you want, i.e.:

Package: kinkatta
Pin: release a=testing
Pin-Priority: 1100

(untested.)

good times,
Vineet

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Re: downgrade a package

[Glyn Millington]

"Christian Schoenebeck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hi!
>
>  
>
> I upgraded package 'kinkatta' with
>     apt-get -t unstable install kinkatta
>
> to the unstable version. That was a mistake. How can
> I 'downgrade' again?

Hmm - better not to post html!

will a simple

apt-get --purge remove kinkatta

apt-get install kinkatta

not do the trick?



Glyn
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Re: downgrade a package

[Isabelle Hurbain]

On Monday 11 February 2002 20:27, Christian Schoenebeck wrote:
> Hi!
>
> I upgraded package 'kinkatta' with
>
> apt-get -t unstable install kinkatta
>
> to the unstable version. That was a mistake. How can
> I 'downgrade' again?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Christian Schoenebeck


try to edit /etc/apt/preferences

man apt_preferences :
   1000 and up
  Downgradable priorities

   1000   The downgrade prevention barrier


regards

isabelle hurbain

Locales and Java

[Andreas von Heydwolff]

Woody, i386. I got the US American ViaVoice rpms running but haven't 
dictated since the advent of the EURO made me define in /etc/profile


set [EMAIL PROTECTED]
set [EMAIL PROTECTED]
export LC_ALL LANG LANGUAGE

Can this be the reason for the error messages appended below that now 
show up when I start the program?


My Java still is

# java -version
java version "1.3.1"
Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build Blackdown-1.3.1-FCS)
Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build Blackdown-1.3.1-FCS, mixed mode)

Any ideas/fixes greatly appreciated.

Regards,

Andreas v. Heydwolff
Vienna


---snip---

:~$ vvstartdictation
Starting ViaVoice Dictation
Java must be installed for ViaVoice Dictation to work.
Please wait while Java initializes...
java.util.MissingResourceException: Can't find bundle for base name 
com.ibm.speechapps.speakpad.resources.spstrings, locale de_AT
at 
java.util.ResourceBundle.throwMissingResourceException(ResourceBundle.java:712)

at java.util.ResourceBundle.getBundleImpl(ResourceBundle.java:683)
at java.util.ResourceBundle.getBundle(ResourceBundle.java:546)
at 
com.ibm.speechapps.speakpad.resources.RcText.(RcText.java:46)
at 
com.ibm.speechapps.speakpad.SpeechDocument.(SpeechDocument.java:95)

at com.ibm.speechapps.speakpad.SpeakPad.(SpeakPad.java:165)
at 
com.ibm.speechapps.speakpad.AppState.createMainFrame(AppState.java:139)

at com.ibm.speechapps.speakpad.SpeakPad.main(SpeakPad.java:2388)
Exception in thread "main" java.lang.ExceptionInInitializerError: 
java.lang.NullPointerException
at 
com.ibm.speechapps.speakpad.resources.RcText.getString(RcText.java:65)
at 
com.ibm.speechapps.speakpad.SpeechDocument.(SpeechDocument.java:95)

at com.ibm.speechapps.speakpad.SpeakPad.(SpeakPad.java:165)
at 
com.ibm.speechapps.speakpad.AppState.createMainFrame(AppState.java:139)

at com.ibm.speechapps.speakpad.SpeakPad.main(SpeakPad.java:2388)

Re: Dual LCD monitors

[Blake Barnett]

ASUS has some of the deluxe model nVidia cards (http://www.asus.com)

This LCD buyer's guide by ArsTechnica may be of some help describing the
difference between the two interfaces:
http://arstechnica.com/guide/flatpanel/flatpanels-1.html

Good luck!

On Mon, 2002-02-11 at 13:35, Gary Hennigan wrote:
> "Blake Barnett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > You also have to live with the lower bandwidth of PCI, as it forces you
> > to have either 1 AGP & 1 PCI or 2 PCI for it to work.  Moving
> > applications and such between the two screens can be painful.  Though
> > definately not a show-stopper.  Especially if you're like me and have a
> > fairly static layout on your desktops.
> > 
> > Ideally though, you'd want a dual-head AGP card, as everything is
> > happening at full AGP speeds then.  Have you checked out the latest
> > model ATI and NVidia dual-head offerings?
> 
> I have looked at the Radeon 7500 and it looks promising. The trouble
> with nVidia is they don't manufacture their own cards so I have to try
> and find a manufacturer's website. I didn't see anything at Elsa that
> had dual-head. Any specific suggestions on a manufacturer?
> 
> One thing that has me totally going in circles is the difference
> between DVI-I and DVI-D connectors. The manual for the monitor says
> it's a DVI-D connector, and the manual for the graphics card says it's
> DVI-I. I have two guesses at the moment, 1) The DVI indicates the
> connector type and the "I" and "D" just indicate Interface and
> Display, respectively, or 2) Dell supplied me with a cable that does
> DVI-I -> DVI-D. 
> 
> I have a single-head system up and running, and I want to configure my
> personal workstation similarly. The single-head is using a Quadro2 Pro
> card with a DVI-I connector (according to the Dell manual).
> 
> Thanks for the replies!
> Gary
> 
> 
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[oclug] masquerading realplayer

[Michael P. Soulier]

Hey people. 

Using kernel 2.2.12 and the ip_masq_raudio module, I've always been able
to view video clips using realaudio. After changing kernels to 2.2.20,
changing nothing else, it doesn't work. 

Any clues? How can I debug this?

Thanks,

Mike

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Re: Dual LCD monitors

[Gary Hennigan]

"Blake Barnett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> You also have to live with the lower bandwidth of PCI, as it forces you
> to have either 1 AGP & 1 PCI or 2 PCI for it to work.  Moving
> applications and such between the two screens can be painful.  Though
> definately not a show-stopper.  Especially if you're like me and have a
> fairly static layout on your desktops.
> 
> Ideally though, you'd want a dual-head AGP card, as everything is
> happening at full AGP speeds then.  Have you checked out the latest
> model ATI and NVidia dual-head offerings?

I have looked at the Radeon 7500 and it looks promising. The trouble
with nVidia is they don't manufacture their own cards so I have to try
and find a manufacturer's website. I didn't see anything at Elsa that
had dual-head. Any specific suggestions on a manufacturer?

One thing that has me totally going in circles is the difference
between DVI-I and DVI-D connectors. The manual for the monitor says
it's a DVI-D connector, and the manual for the graphics card says it's
DVI-I. I have two guesses at the moment, 1) The DVI indicates the
connector type and the "I" and "D" just indicate Interface and
Display, respectively, or 2) Dell supplied me with a cable that does
DVI-I -> DVI-D. 

I have a single-head system up and running, and I want to configure my
personal workstation similarly. The single-head is using a Quadro2 Pro
card with a DVI-I connector (according to the Dell manual).

Thanks for the replies!
Gary

Re: downgrade a package

[Yven J. Leist]

On Monday 11 February 2002 20:27, Christian Schoenebeck wrote:
> Hi!
>
> I upgraded package 'kinkatta' with
>
> apt-get -t unstable install kinkatta
>
> to the unstable version. That was a mistake. How can
> I 'downgrade' again?
simply remove it with "dpkg -r kinkatta" 
and install it via apt-get.
cheers,
Yven

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Re: Dual LCD monitors

[Blake Barnett]

You also have to live with the lower bandwidth of PCI, as it forces you
to have either 1 AGP & 1 PCI or 2 PCI for it to work.  Moving
applications and such between the two screens can be painful.  Though
definately not a show-stopper.  Especially if you're like me and have a
fairly static layout on your desktops.

Ideally though, you'd want a dual-head AGP card, as everything is
happening at full AGP speeds then.  Have you checked out the latest
model ATI and NVidia dual-head offerings?


On Mon, 2002-02-11 at 13:07, Jeremy T. Bouse wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 11, 2002 at 12:46:55PM -0700, Gary Hennigan wrote:
> > I'm "upgrading" from dual CRT monitors to a dual 20" LCD setup. The
> > problem is I have a G400 that can only do 1280x1024 and the flat
> > panels I'm buying optimally require 1600x1200. Additionally I'd really
> > like to ditch the analog outputs and go to full digital between my box
> > and the monitors, and I'm really hooked on Xinerama. With all these
> > constraints, does anyone have any suggestions for a video card or
> > cards? Can you do Xinerama with two cards?
> > 
>   From my own configuration I had Xinerama working fine with 2
> seperate cards... My problem was they were not identical so I had to run
> the display at the lower cards maximum settings for both cards... This
> works fine if the lowest common settings are still fairly decent...
> 
>   Jeremy
> 
> 
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Re: Dual LCD monitors

[Jeremy T. Bouse]

On Mon, Feb 11, 2002 at 12:46:55PM -0700, Gary Hennigan wrote:
> I'm "upgrading" from dual CRT monitors to a dual 20" LCD setup. The
> problem is I have a G400 that can only do 1280x1024 and the flat
> panels I'm buying optimally require 1600x1200. Additionally I'd really
> like to ditch the analog outputs and go to full digital between my box
> and the monitors, and I'm really hooked on Xinerama. With all these
> constraints, does anyone have any suggestions for a video card or
> cards? Can you do Xinerama with two cards?
> 
From my own configuration I had Xinerama working fine with 2
seperate cards... My problem was they were not identical so I had to run
the display at the lower cards maximum settings for both cards... This
works fine if the lowest common settings are still fairly decent...

Jeremy

Re: cdrecord, 4416, tekram, recorded cds unreadable

[Michael Stroucken]

On Mon, Feb 11, 2002 at 09:08:52AM -0500, Bob Thibodeau wrote:
> Why are you mounting audio cd's?
> What happens if you try to play them without mounting first?
> > Has anyone else had this problem and come up with a fix, or does anyone
> > know if and how data can be recovered from this situation? The data
> > on the CDs were backups of my audio cds, so I didn't lose anything (yet).


I meant, the data on the CDs were backups of my audio cds
in iso9660 format. Why would I mount audio cds (and how could I do an md5sum
of them)?

Anybody else have this problem?

Greetings,
Michael.
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Re: mp3 and background

[Scott Henson]

On Mon, 2002-02-11 at 14:19, Michi Onken wrote:
> > Now on this auction was a screen shot with a
> > great background.  I was wondering if anyone could tell me where I could
> > find some good backgrounds for gnome(this one was of an angel).  Thank
> > you for any help.
> 
> Nice sources for wallpapers are e.g. www.themes.org and
> www.digitalblasphemy.com, i think  you'll find some nice backgrounds;-)
> 
Thanks cool stuff, but does anyone know where I might find this
background. 

http://www.webtechnologist.com/1/images/sexlinux2.jpg

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people.  Only by continual oversight can the democrat in office be
prevented from hardening into a despot: only by unintermitted agitation
can a people be kept sufficiently awake to principle not to let liberty
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people can be quiet and safe.  At such times despotism, like a shrouding
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Dual LCD monitors

[Gary Hennigan]

I'm "upgrading" from dual CRT monitors to a dual 20" LCD setup. The
problem is I have a G400 that can only do 1280x1024 and the flat
panels I'm buying optimally require 1600x1200. Additionally I'd really
like to ditch the analog outputs and go to full digital between my box
and the monitors, and I'm really hooked on Xinerama. With all these
constraints, does anyone have any suggestions for a video card or
cards? Can you do Xinerama with two cards?

I like the idea of the Matrox G550 Dual DVI, but my reading of it's
specs say it only supports 1280x1024 on dual DVI.

Xinerama, by the way, treats your two displays as a single large
display, so you can move displayed programs from one monitor to the
other easily.

Thanks,
Gary Hennigan

downgrade a package

[Christian Schoenebeck]

Hi!
 
I upgraded package 'kinkatta' with
 
    apt-get -t unstable install 
kinkatta
 
to the unstable version. That was a mistake. How 
can
I 'downgrade' 
again?
 
Thanks,
 
Christian Schoenebeck

Re: mail notification

[Chris Jenks]

At 01:21 PM 2/11/02, Cheryl Homiak wrote:

Of course, I realize that one solution for this is to keep Pine open all
the time in one of my consoles, but I wondered whether or not there are
other solutions.

--
Cheryl


I know that biff is used for mail notification. Not exactly sure how it is 
used,

but it something to check into.

Re: debconf 1.0.26 problems

[Joey Hess]

Stefan Bellon wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> I have Debian GNU/Linux unstable on my notebook. Since a few days I
> have a problem: Whenever I install a packet that depends on debconf, I
> get the following error messages during set-up:
> 
> Use of uninitialized value in substitution (s///) at
> /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/Format/822.pm line 57, <$__ANONIO__> line 483.
> Use of uninitialized value in substitution (s///) at
> /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/Format/822.pm line 57, <$__ANONIO__> line 556.
> Use of uninitialized value in substitution (s///) at
> /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/Format/822.pm line 30, <$__ANONIO__> line 722.

This might be a problem with your debconf db. Send me
/var/lib/debconf/*.db

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Turning off VSync with a Voodoo5

[David Chase]

Hi all,

Just wondering how I can turn off the VSync on my
Voodoo5 running X 4.1.0-14, using xlibmesa3 4.1.0-14
and libglide3 2001.01.26-1.1.

There isn't much info on this around the web, or at
least, none I could find that helped.

Thanks in advance,
Dave

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Re: /home: Stale NFS file handle

[Dimitri Maziuk]

* Dave Sherohman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) spake thusly:
> On Mon, Feb 11, 2002 at 10:10:46AM -0600, Dimitri Maziuk wrote:
> > Short answer: no.
> 
> Ah, well.  I've already rebooted them anyhow, though, so it doesn't
> really matter.
> 
> > Next time unmount on the clients before doing something
> > like that.
> 
> I just realized...  The stale handles are because of the new drives
> (and resulting new inodes), not because of the server being offline
> for an extended time, aren't they?  

At a guess, yes (IANA NFS guru).

...I wasn't too worried about it
> since NFS usually recovers when the server comes back up, but hadn't
> thought about things getting shifted around on the disk.

"Usually" is the keyword here. IME GNOME + NFS-mounted /home is
a very bad combination: even when NFS recovers fine, apps barf
about "no working directory" etc.

> Unmounting all the clients isn't too bad when there are only 8 of
> them, but I would expect it to be a bit of a PITA if you've got 50 or
> 100...

Having to reboot 50 or 100 machines because you can't unmount those
stale NFS handles may be a worse PITA, esp. when some of them run
obscure services that aren't documented anywhere and/or have no startup
scripts in /etc/init.d. OTGH, getting lusers to log off before mucking
around the NFS server is usually enough, unmounting everything is 
a bit of an overkill... 

Dima
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Re: mp3 and background

[Michi Onken]

On Mon, Feb 11, 2002 at 12:57:27PM -0500, Scott Henson wrote:

> First can
> anyone recomend a mp3 to wav converter sutible for use in burning mp3s
> to CD.  I used to have music match under windows, but I want to do this

Hi there, you can do this easily with xmms (apt-get install xmms) and
then select the diskwriter-plugin in the preferences...

> Now on this auction was a screen shot with a
> great background.  I was wondering if anyone could tell me where I could
> find some good backgrounds for gnome(this one was of an angel).  Thank
> you for any help.

Nice sources for wallpapers are e.g. www.themes.org and
www.digitalblasphemy.com, i think  you'll find some nice backgrounds;-)

Bye
Michi

max # of processes in debian testing

[debian]

It looks like the default max number of processes in Debian testing is 300
processes. How can this be increased? Any input would be appricated.
Thanks!

Oh, on i386. :)

Re: mail notification

[Cheryl Homiak]

Of course, I realize that one solution for this is to keep Pine open all
the time in one of my consoles, but I wondered whether or not there are
other solutions.

-- 
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Re: What's sending "www 02/10/02:19.02 system check" messages

[Aaron Hall]

Hit wrong key, didn't follow up to list. Sheesh. :)

On Mon, 11 Feb 2002, Chris Evans wrote:

> I've just transferred from Hamm to Potato and the new system is
> Emailing me excellent security messages with subject line like: "www
> 02/10/02:19.02 system check" ("www" is hostname).

That's logcheck.

> I'd like to be able to tune that to improve the ratio of really
> helpful to routine messages.  All I can see from the header is that
> they're coming from something with user ID 0 and that leaves a fair
> few options including cron but crontab -u 0 says there is no user 0!

The configuration is in /etc/logcheck; essentially, it scans the logs for
regular expressions in the configuration files, and mails you anything
that matches. Check the man pages and the files in /usr/share/doc/logcheck
for more information.

It actually does run out of cron; Debian's cron reads files in
/etc/cron.d in addition to other crontabs, and logcheck has a file in
there that runs it every hour or so.

man cron, and see also /etc/cron.{daily,weekly,monthly} for other neat
tricks. :)

- Aaron

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mp3 and background

[Scott Henson]

I kind of have two questions that are really unrelated.  First can
anyone recomend a mp3 to wav converter sutible for use in burning mp3s
to CD.  I used to have music match under windows, but I want to do this
under linux.  Also I was recenlty poking around ebay and saw an auction
for some debian CD's.  Now on this auction was a screen shot with a
great background.  I was wondering if anyone could tell me where I could
find some good backgrounds for gnome(this one was of an angel).  Thank
you for any help.
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Logs weirdness

[Wayne Topa]

Have just found something on my woody system that seems weird.  

Latest upgrade of fwlogwatch doesn't report any firewall messages so I
was checking it out.  In /var/log all of the main log files are empty.
ie messages, syslog, kern, ppp, etc. _but_ there are now .0 logs that
are, in fact, current.  I also noticed that the plog command isn't
working. duh

If I symlink /var/log/messages to /var/log/messages.0 fwlogwatch works
and if I symlink /var/log/ppp.log to /var/log/ppp.log.0 it also works
correctly.

So my question are:
Am I the only one seeing this?
Did I somehow screw the logging up? (/etc/syslog.conf doesn't have
*.log.0 entries)

dpkg -l shows only syslog-summary & klogd installed, Humm, wonder if I
need to install syslog-common ?  Seems like something wasn't upgraded
correctly.

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Re: Geforce II under Xwindows

[David B Harris]

On Mon, 11 Feb 2002 16:02:27 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I have GEForce II running right now.
> I am running XFree86 4.1.0 (from unstable).
> To make it run, you need to go to the nvidia site and download the
> kernel file and the glx file, then modify your XF86Config-4 file to
> unload GLcore and dri.

Just to clarify things here:

Ihab is trying to use 3.3.6 X servers. Since this is the case, getting
drivers from the nVidia site won't help at all.

Also, the stock XFree drivers will work fine with the GeForce; he just
won't have accelerated 3D. So even if he was using XFree 4.x, getting
the nVidia drivers wouldn't have been the solution ;) (Since something
else would have to have been wrong :)

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mail notification

[Cheryl Homiak]

Hi all!
I am using woody; have exim and fetchmail and Pine for mail, though
considering a change to mutt. Can't use Xwindows or graphical systems
because I am blind.
I want to know whether there is a way I can set up my machine so that it
will beep when I get new mail into /var/mail, but without displaying the
actual mail messages at the time. Of course, if I have Pine open, I do get
a beep when mail comes in and a brief notification of what the new mail
is, but I'd like to know when new mail comes into my system so I can then
go into my mail program.
I am running fetchmail just as a user and not as a system-wide
configuration.
Thanks.

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Re: apt-get and 'deb file:\'

[Ralf G. R. Bergs]

On Mon, 11 Feb 2002 08:14:44 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time), Tom Schuetz wrote:

>I used to have debian 2.2 installed on one box, and at that time I was able to 
'apt-get install foo.deb', where 'foo.deb' was   any file I'd just put into my 
working directory. The directory didn't was never mentioned in 'sources.list'. 

I think you must be confusing something.

Use "dpkg -i .deb" to install a Debian archive at the specified 
location.

>I've tried putting 'deb file:\home\tom' into sources.list, but I get a 
"malformed sources.list" complaint.

We're not running DOS, but Unix, do we?! So at least use forward slashes...

>I've also R'd the FM, and now, as a last resort, I appeal to debian-user. What 
do I need to do to install a deb that's sitting in my PWD?

Your PWD? You mean your CWD?


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RE: apt-get and 'deb file:\'

[Kurc, Marcin A.]

you are talking about dpkg -i foo.deb
not apt-get

Marcin Kurc
CAD Systems Administrator
Cooper-Standard Automotive 

-Original Message-
From: Tom Schuetz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2002 11:15 AM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: apt-get and 'deb file:\'


I used to have debian 2.2 installed on one box, and at that time I was able
to 'apt-get install foo.deb', where 'foo.deb' was   any file I'd just put
into my working directory. The directory didn't was never mentioned in
'sources.list'. 

Now, I'm working on a different machine, still 2.2, and when I do 'apt-get
./foo.deb', it goes through it's database check, but then says "could not
find package". 

I've tried putting 'deb file:\home\tom' into sources.list, but I get a
"malformed sources.list" complaint.

I've also R'd the FM, and now, as a last resort, I appeal to debian-user.
What do I need to do to install a deb that's sitting in my PWD?

Thanks.


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Re: /home: Stale NFS file handle

[Dave Sherohman]

On Mon, Feb 11, 2002 at 10:10:46AM -0600, Dimitri Maziuk wrote:
> Short answer: no.

Ah, well.  I've already rebooted them anyhow, though, so it doesn't
really matter.

> Next time unmount on the clients before doing something
> like that.

I just realized...  The stale handles are because of the new drives
(and resulting new inodes), not because of the server being offline
for an extended time, aren't they?  I wasn't too worried about it
since NFS usually recovers when the server comes back up, but hadn't
thought about things getting shifted around on the disk.

Unmounting all the clients isn't too bad when there are only 8 of
them, but I would expect it to be a bit of a PITA if you've got 50 or
100...

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Re: modconf ; etc/modules and loading modules at boot up (fwd)

[Roberto Pereyra]

I don't know if this works in /etc/modules
but try it in the command line and
if this work put this line in
the boot scripts under /etc/init.d/

I use this option ( -f) with a Lucent Winmodem
driver that I have only in binary and compiled wit other kernel version,
and this work fine.

I use 


insmod -f ltmodem

( ltmodem.o is the Lucent modem module driver)

Please tell me ( or the list) if this work.

bye

roberto ( excuse my poor english)


Roberto Pereyra
Gualeguaychu
Argentina
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-- Forwarded message --
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 16:51:36 +0100 (MET)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Roberto Pereyra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: modconf ; etc/modules and loading modules at boot up (fwd)

> 
> Hi
> 
> Try with -f option
> 
> 
> insmod -f module
> 
> insmod -f 8139too
> 
> 
> This option ignore the kernel version.
> 
> 
> bye
> 
> roberto
>  

Hi.
You mean I have to put the whole line " insmod -f 8139too" in /etc/modules
???
Is this right ???

Greetings maniatronic


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Re: apt-get and 'deb file:\'

[Ross Burton]

On Mon, 2002-02-11 at 16:14, Tom Schuetz wrote:
> I've also R'd the FM, and now, as a last resort, I appeal to debian-user. 
> What do I need to do to install a deb that's sitting in my PWD?

Ignore apt and use dpkg.

dpkg -i foo.deb

Ross
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Re: broken gpm

[Dimitri Maziuk]

> On Sun, 10 Feb 2002, Ian Balchin wrote:
> 
> > Hi, all,
> >
> > Some time back my mouse stopped marking on the screen in console
> > mode.  It is standard 2-button type.
> * snipped *
> >
> > The cursor moves around the screen nicely, but cannot mark anything.
> >
> > I have it as /dev/ttyS0
> >
> > What to do. Should I perhaps uninstall and reinstall gpm? (well, I
> > am windows trained)

/etc/init.d/gpm restart (as root, of course). I haven't been able 
to find the fix for this so far (although I didn't look very hard). 
What kernel are you running?

Dima
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apt-get and 'deb file:\'

[Tom Schuetz]

I used to have debian 2.2 installed on one box, and at that time I was able to 
'apt-get install foo.deb', where 'foo.deb' was   any file I'd just put into my 
working directory. The directory didn't was never mentioned in 'sources.list'. 

Now, I'm working on a different machine, still 2.2, and when I do 'apt-get 
./foo.deb', it goes through it's database check, but then says "could not find 
package". 

I've tried putting 'deb file:\home\tom' into sources.list, but I get a 
"malformed sources.list" complaint.

I've also R'd the FM, and now, as a last resort, I appeal to debian-user. What 
do I need to do to install a deb that's sitting in my PWD?

Thanks.


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Re: proftpd and ftpaccess

[Dimitri Maziuk]

* [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) spake thusly:
> Hi !
> First thanks to Black Liam !
> Ok.
> I want to set up an ftp-server.
> But I´ve got som problems.
> The server I wnat to use is proftpd.
> I´ve installed it on my system.
> There was no ftpaccess, ftphosts and ftpusers so I `ve created 
> them myself.
> The ftphosts and ftpusers aren`t very importen for me.
> The main problem is the ftpaccess.
> It looks like this:
> #ftpaccess
> class  peoples   real
> banner /usr/util/banner.msg
> log transfer peoples  inbound,outbound
> loginfails 5
> chmod  no  peoples
> rename no  peoples
> delete  no peoples
> overwrite  no peoples
> compress yes peoples
> tar  yes peoples
> noretrieve/etc/passwd
> noretrieve/etc/shadow
> noretrieve/etc/ftpaccess
> message/usr/util/login.msg
> 
> OK.
> That´s the file.
> No there happen things which i can´t believe.
> I´ve logged on my ftp-Server.
> There was no message appearing !
> And i was even able to get the /etc/passwd.
> It seems that proftpd ignores my etc/ftpaccess.
> It´t has got an own config file named proftpd.conf
> But in this file your just able to set the rules for anonymous login.
> 
> What´s wrong with my ftpaccess ???

Nothing, RTFM. Proftpd puts anonymous users in a chroot jail,
they can't get to your /etc/password (their names/passwords go 
into proftd.conf, not ftpaccess). A non-anonymous user can get
to all the files she can read normally, including /etc/passwd.

Not sure about the message.

Dima
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Re: /home: Stale NFS file handle

[Dimitri Maziuk]

* Dave Sherohman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) spake thusly:
> I took the NFS server down to replace a couple hard drives on
> Saturday and now the clients are all complaining that the NFS handle
> for /home is stale.  mounting and umounting the same export elsewhere
> doesn't work, despite some claims on lkml that this might do some
> magic.
...
> Have I missed anything?  Is there any way of recovering from this
> short of rebooting?

Short answer: no. You can try to force-unmount the directories,
and/or stop NFS client (statd, lockd &c), but it doesn't always
work. Next time unmount on the clients before doing something
like that.

Dima
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Re: Auth with PAM

[Eric G . Miller]

On Mon, 11 Feb 2002 12:35:27 +0100, Tim Dijkstra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I'm trying to get some app to use PAM to authenticate against the 
> /etc/shadow. Shouldn't it be enough for the app to
> be a member of the 'shadow' group for this to work? Or are there any 
> other restrictions.
> (Works fine when I make /etc/shadow world-readable, but don't want that 
> of course)

It doesn't sound right to add anything to group shadow.  Is this
application PAM aware?  According to the docs, it needs to have code
specifically for doing PAM authentication and session management.

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dselect and resolving

[John Cichy]

Hello all,

It seems the dselect ignores the host file when updating it's lists. I have a 
debian mirror in my DMZ and have added an entry in my hosts file to use an 
internal address to access the mirror, but it seems that dselect is ignoring 
that entry and trying the public address instead. Does anyone know how to 
make dselect look at the hosts file, my host.conf has the entry :

order hosts,bind

so I would think that it would resolve to the address in the host file.

TIA,
John

Re: Geforce II under Xwindows

[matt]

I have GEForce II running right now.
I am running XFree86 4.1.0 (from unstable).
To make it run, you need to go to the nvidia site and download the kernel file 
and the glx file, then modify your XF86Config-4 file to unload GLcore and dri.

I got a lot of help from typing in your search favorite search engine "debian 
inspiron 8100". You'll find an XF86Config-4 file and so on.

Cheers,

Matt


On Mon, Feb 11, 2002 at 05:20:57AM -0800, Ihab Mohsen wrote:
> For some reason I cant run any xserver for my Geforce
> II VE graphics card except the VGA_16 server so you
> can guess what the graphics are like...any ideas which
> server I should be running 
> 
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Win95 on Plex86

[Chuck Higgins]

Hi, 

Has anybody got Win95 working on Plex86?

I've been able to boot-up a floppy image and then run the setup program from 
the Win95 CD. It then seems to work at first, doing the system check and 
copying installation files onto C:, but at the point when setup would have 
gone graphical it bombs out.

 ::call_pro: type = 4

 ::plex86 panic:
 ::call_pro: type = 4

 Fatal monitor error caused Panic
  ... ...
 Current instruction:
  005B.0B79  9ACB00               lcall   $0x00cb, $0x

I'm trying the X version rather than the curses version, of course. The 
conf/win95 file I'm using is pretty much as shipped, I just set up my disk 
images and cd-rom drive:

 bochs-opt diskc: file="./.plex86/win95.hd0", cyl=203, heads=16, spt=63
 bochs-opt floppya: 1_44="./.plex86/win95.fd0", status=inserted
 bochs-opt cdromd: dev="/dev/cdrom", status=inserted

I tried this with the debian package, and I also compiled the latest 
source from http://plex86.org and tried that. The problem's the same either 
way.
 
Any pointers would be appreicated.
Thanks.

Re: modconf ; etc/modules and loading modules at boot up (fwd)

[Roberto Pereyra]

Hi

Try with -f option


insmod -f module

insmod -f 8139too


This option ignore the kernel version.


bye

roberto
 


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Argentina
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Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 16:01:53 +0100 (MET)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: modconf ; etc/modules and loading modules at boot up
Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 09:28:37 -0300 (ARST)
Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org

> #include 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Mon Feb 11, 2002 um 02:28:34PM:
> 
> > # /etc/modules : Kernel modules to load at boot time.
> > #
> > # This file should contain the name of kernel modules that are 
> > # to be loaded at boot time, one per line.
> > 8139too.o
> > 
> > Ok. 
> 
> Not okay. Try without .o.
> 
> Gruss/Regards,
> Eduard.
> -- 


OK thanks.
I?ve tryed.
But it didn?t work.
The modul is in /lib/modules/2.4.17/kernel/drivers/net 
It is there.
But it doesn?t work.
I don?t know what?s wrong.
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Re: Can't un/install xdm/gdm/wdm

[Kent West]

Noah Meyerhans wrote:


On Sat, Feb 09, 2002 at 04:17:25PM -0600, Kent West wrote:


Setting up gdm (2.2.5.3-2) ...
dpkg: error processing gdm (--configure):
subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 10



Well, if you want some debugging output, try adding the -x flag to the
#!/bin/sh line in /var/lib/dpkg/info/{g,w,x}dm.postinst scripts.



Well, that's a neat trick. Here's partial output of "apt-get install 
gdm"; I'm not sure what it means.


Setting up gdm (2.2.5.3-2) ...
+ set -e
+ . /usr/share/debconf/confmodule
++ '[' '!' '' ']'
++ exec /usr/share/debconf/frontend /var/lib/dpkg/info/gdm.postinst 
configure 2.2.5.3-2

dpkg: error processing gdm (--configure):
 subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 10




Also, try running dpkg-reconfigure on the packages in question.




Results:

fafsa-01[westk]:/var/lib/dpkg/info> sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
/usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: gdm is not fully installed






fafsa-01:~# update-alternatives --config x-session-manager

There is only 1 program which provides x-session-manager
(/usr/bin/gdm). Nothing to configure.

fafsa-01:~# /etc/init.d/gdm start
Not starting GNOME Display Manager (gdm); it is not the default display 
manager.fafsa-01:~#




This is all because x-session-manager is no longer used to choose the
display manager.  Instead, a debconf hack is used to create
/etc/X11/default-display-manager, which contains the name of the display
manager to use.  /etc/init.d/gdm is telling you above that gdm is not
listed in that file.  I suspect that the reason you're having this
problem has something to do with the debconf mechanism involved, but I
can't say for sure.  The suggestions I gave above should yield some
interesting info.




The 'default-display-manager' referred to 'wdm', so I changed it 
manually to 'gdm' and then tried to uninstall gdm. Still failed. So then 
I tried to uninstall wdm, and here's the transcript:


fafsa-01[westk]:/etc/X11> sudo apt-get remove wdm
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  wdm
0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 to remove and 0  not upgraded.
3 packages not fully installed or removed.
Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 1147kB will be freed.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y
(Reading database ... 26154 files and directories currently installed.)
Removing wdm ...
dpkg: error processing wdm (--remove):
 subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 10
+ set -e
+ . /usr/share/debconf/confmodule
++ '[' '!' '' ']'
++ exec /usr/share/debconf/frontend /var/lib/dpkg/info/wdm.postinst 
abort-remove

dpkg: error while cleaning up:
 subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 10
Errors were encountered while processing:
 wdm
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)



noah
(wdm maintainer)





Thanks for the response, Noah!

Kent