Re: networking problems withe Linksys router
At 10:52 PM 3/6/02, Stephen Ryan wrote: On Wed, 2002-03-06 at 19:50, Chris Jenks wrote: > At 07:35 AM 3/6/02, Paul Mackinney wrote: > >Chris Jenks declaimed: > > > Before I put the router in I had no problem connecting to my Comcast cable > > > modem from either windows, or linux and even had woody installed. After > > > putting the router in, I can no longer access the anywhere on the LAN or > > > the Internet from the Linux. When in windows (like right now) I have no > > > problem. > >This sounds like a straight-up Linux IP configuration issue, especially > >if the Linux box can't connect to other devices on your LAN. Or do you > >have a reason for believing otherwise? > > If I swap the Linksys router out with my old hub, I don't have the problem. > If it was a linux IP config issue, it wouldn't work either way. It's > differently > an issue with the cable router (with built in switch). Since other people are > using the router and not having a problem, I'm thinking it's the MAC address > cloning. I'm not sure if it's the same problem, but I have the same cable router. I had no trouble with it while using the wired connections, but had exactly the symptoms you describe with the wireless connection. A firmware update fixed everything (this was about a week ago). Wireless works as advertised. Are you using the MAC Address Cloning feature?
XDMCP Howto?
Here's one for the X-perts. I have 3 machines on a private network. 2 linux boxes using gdm and 1 SGI using xdm/clogin. I would like to be able to log into any of the boxes from any one of the other boxes. This seemed like a perfect time for me to play with XDMCP. After all, isn't network transparency supposed to be one of the big selling points of X11? So, after much fruitless searching for info on XDMCP and the configuration of xdm and gdm, all I could come up with was that I needed to enable xdmcp in my gdm.conf files (done), enable broadcast in same (done) and also enable xdmcp broadcasts on all boxes (done). As far as I can tell from the man pages I should get (gdm)chooser popping up automagically on the all 3. Unfortunately, nothing like that happens. I just have my normal login screens. Anybody have any hints for me? Cheers, Caleb signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: The quest for rodent power
Carel Fellinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 08:24:22PM -0800, Harry Putnam wrote: >> Carel Fellinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > ... >> Its not clear what you want to know here. I just ran the same test >> again. There is about a 1 second delay before the prompt comes back >> and prints the odd message. >> Alarm Clock > > It was the one sec delay that I was after:) So it's similar to what > happens here including that `Alarm clock' message. BUT I only get > that behaviour when an other gpm instance is running. Weird. Can you see the other gpm in ps output before running the test? Is it possible for gpm to be running in the background and not show up in ps output? Does the fact that running the bare gpm command produces 3 lines of reverse video in the center of my console, as if hilighted by a mouse indicate anything special to you?
Re: Install problems from a newbie
On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 05:15:46PM -0600, Carnes, Kevin wrote:
> OK, after hearing lots of hype about how Linux is the best thing since
> sliced bread, I'm putting the claims to the test and trying to install
> Debian on a new Intel box. I'm an old VAX/VMS system manager and have
> been playing with computers in various forms for 20 years.
...
Good thing you are young and not playing with PDP-11 with core memories.
> Can anyone tell me what happened here and what (if anything) I should do
> about it? I can find no reference to this in the Debian install
> document.
I think first part was answered.
Do you have NIC? If so (or fing $20 NE2000/ISA or any TULIP/PCI cards),
then plug them in and try installing through network. Since you are in
University, it should not be too difficult to find ethernet connections.
As for how to make FDs, you read install manual and use "dd" in Unix or
"rawrite" in DOS.
If you do notworry about installing all sorts of special programs and
just want to feel Linux, I have to agree RH or Mandrake are easy. But
once you tries to make them function as you wish, Debian is most
manageable.
Many documents are available at http://www.debian.org/doc/ddp
Cheers :)
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Re: OT: Aliens in the heavans (was Re: seti@home)
On Wed, 2002-03-06 at 22:39, John Hasler wrote: > Ron Johnson writes: > > Seems to me that all that warring and anarchy on a completely barbaric > > planey would exauhst all the time/imagination/resources. Would they want > > to spend resources on inter-stellar research, when they could be spending > > it trying to destroy the enemy? > > You have neatly explained the miniscule size of the interstellar research > budget. Come on, John. You can't blame it _all_ on the defence budget. Don't forget all those social programs, and WV needs a new Interstate hwy every 2 years... -- ++ | Ron Johnson, Jr.Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | Jefferson, LA USA http://ronandheather.dhs.org:81| || | "(Women are) like compilers. They take simple statements | | and make them into big productions." | | Pitr Dubovitch | ++
Re: OT: Aliens in the heavans (was Re: seti@home)
Wow, people do read my posts. I should be more careful about what I write. Gary Turner wrote: [snip] > While it is true that the EMF, or voltage is inversely proportional to > the distance, the power is reduced by the square of the distance. > (P=e^2/r, P=i^2*r, or P=e*i) Thus a signal with a power density of 1 > Watt per sq meter at 10 meters distance, will have a power density of > .01 Watts per sq meter at 100 meter's distance (in a lossless system). Thankyou for that clarification. [snip] > Which brings us to power density at the receiving end--there ain't much. > Given that the W/sq meter is minuscule, an antenna such as the one the > seti project uses has an effective aperture on the order of 10's of > thousands of sq meters. And that helps. The small beam angle acts to > remove all signals not in the desired direction, so the noise level is > reduced. VLNAs bring sensitivity to a level that a signal energy level > only a few degrees above abs 0 is detectable. Levels a few degrees above abs 0 may be detectable, but that does not imply intelligable. There are some very strong radiating bodies out there; what fraction of a degree of the sky can you pick out with your antenna? A source does not need to be close (in a distance sense) to another source for them to appear close (in a directional sense) from earth. Anthony Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> worte: [snip] > > I can think of a number of better ways of spending the money/time/spare > > CPU cycles. > > For example? Money: * Feeding people * Make sustainable industry economically viable * Devise an atmosphere cleaner * Land mine clearing programmes * Better and more accessable education Time: * Looking after family * Getting more excercise * Learn another language * Build a boat * Strip a friend's car down * Port octave to be a real win32 app * I have a list of projects here somewhere... Spare CPU cycles: * I dunno, play quake or something. John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ...since no-one has yet devised an antenna which radiates very > > well in all directions... > > That's completely irrelevant. > > > The direction of propagation is perpendicular to the direction of motion > > of the exciting charges (aren't they exciting? ;-) and so the wave > > propagates in the horizontal plane (assuming that your antenna is > > oriented that way. > > The radiation propagates in all directions (though the intensity varies > around the antenna patern). I think you are confounding polarization and > propagation. Is that right? I thought that an ideal dipole would radiate only in a plane. Obviously we don't have ideal dipoles, but that's what I thought the theory said. I am more than happy to take correction here; I have an exam on this stuff in not so many weeks time ;-) Tom
Re: configuring ext3 (was Re: new twist on shutting down and restricting ssh users)
On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 10:14:03PM -0500, dman wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 08:27:11PM -0600, Nathan E Norman wrote:
> | On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 08:47:54PM -0500, dman wrote:
> | > On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 11:46:41PM +, Simon Hepburn wrote:
> | > | On Wednesday 06 Mar 2002 9:11 pm, dman wrote:
> | ext3 is probably a good idea if you aren't going to be around in case
> | there is a power outage or someone trips over the power cord. I use
> | etx3 on all my boxes running 2.4.17 and haven't (yet) experienced any
> | problems (now I wait for all the replies saying "ext3 is B0rken on
> | 2.4.17!!1!" :)
>
> I've got 2.4.17 on all my systems. (2.4.18 is out now, but not
> packaged last I checked)
Please check again. I just installed it few days ago:
Linux X 2.4.18-686-smp #1 SMP Fri Mar 1 00:33:20 EST 2002 i686 unknown
> Are there any tricks or gotchas to setting
> it up? Here's what I know (I did include support in the kernel) :
> o /etc/fstab -- s/ext2/ext3/
> o make the journal file (using 'tunefs'?)
>
> The only thing I'm concerned about is trying to set up a new feature,
> but not setting it up correctly and not being around to fix the setup.
I asked this issue in this ML and had interesting responses.
1. fstab to contain "ext3,ext2" as entry
2. make a link with name "/sbin/fsck.ext3,ext2"
If you wonder what I am talking: check kernel chapter of "Debian
reference", PLEASE. There I copied result of discussion under EXT3
cherrs :)
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Re: configuring ext3 (was Re: new twist on shutting down and restricting ssh users)
begin Nathan E Norman quotation: > I converted a system a few months ago, and another Sunday night. > Basically you "tune2fs -j /dev/whatever", change "ext2" to "ext3" in > /etc/fstab as you mentioned, and then reboot. > > The only thing I'm not sure about is whether the partitions have to be > unmounted when you "tune2fs" them; my unix intuition says they do. but > then what about the root filesystem? (I run many partitions on most of > my machines). "Converting" from ext2 to ext3 is simply a matter of creating the journal inode and setting the has_journal flag (in the superblock, I think?). So there's no problem with doing that while the fs is mounted, although as I recall, doing so means that the journal inode will be visible as a file called /.journal , whereas if you unmount first, it will not be visible. And you have to remount the partition as ext3 to make the journalling happen. In any case, if you really want to convert your root fs while it's unmounted, all you have to do is boot from a rescue diskette. Craig pgphxu4NsvH7W.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: The quest for rodent power
On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 08:24:22PM -0800, Harry Putnam wrote: > Carel Fellinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: ... > Its not clear what you want to know here. I just ran the same test > again. There is about a 1 second delay before the prompt comes back > and prints the odd message. > Alarm Clock It was the one sec delay that I was after:) So it's similar to what happens here including that `Alarm clock' message. BUT I only get that behaviour when an other gpm instance is running. Weird. > > So we really still don't know if this file is okee, do we:) > > Now posted Saw it, it's okee. -- groetjes, carel
Re: OT: Aliens in the heavans (was Re: seti@home)
Ron Johnson writes: > Seems to me that all that warring and anarchy on a completely barbaric > planey would exauhst all the time/imagination/resources. Would they want > to spend resources on inter-stellar research, when they could be spending > it trying to destroy the enemy? You have neatly explained the miniscule size of the interstellar research budget. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI
Re: The quest for rodent power
"Karl E. Jorgensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
[...]
> I had a sudden thought: perhaps it is time to experiment with the mouse
> type for gpm (completely ignoring X for now).
>
> You've established beyond any doubt that it works in X as a PS/2 mouse
> - and hence the kernel, connection, physical mouse etc is OK. And that gpm
> does *not* like to interpret the mouse as a vanilla ps/2.
>
> The ps/2 code in gpm is probably not identical to the ps/2 code in
> the X server. And even when gpm is told to repeat in "raw" mode it will
> still try to interpret the incoming mouse events. I guess that it doesn't
> understand them - hence your "Error in protocl" in the gpm debug you
> posted earlier.
>
> In other words: X and gpm may well have different interpretations of
> "PS/2". (my guess/conclusion, not necessarily fact, but I think it makes
> sense).
>
> Try
> # gpm -t help
>
> to get a listing of mice that gpm understands.
> In this list, these look like candidates for your logitec 3-button ps2:
> autops2 # if you're lucky :-)
> mman
> logim
> fups2
> imps2 # only 'cause it was mentioned in your XF86Config-4 at some point
> fuimps2 # same reason
>
> (and any other mouse type that catches your eye in gpm's list)
>
> So a few simple tests by running:
>
> # gpm -D -m /dev/psaux -t {some gpm mouse type}
>
> should reveal what mouse type does (not) work for gpm. If one of them
> works, then you know what to put in /etc/gpm.conf. Tweaking the X config
> afterwards should then be easy: replacing /dev/psaux with /dev/gpmdata.
I may not have understood the task correctly. Not sure what would
indicate working or not. So assuming you mean fully work as in
having a mouse ... hehe.
I went thru the list you show above adding only ps2 and exps2 for
good measure.
# gpm -D -m /dev/psaux -t {some gpm mouse type}
With mman logim fups2 exps2 all give a hung terminal that appears
to be waiting for standard in. Nothing is written to syslog except
the initial message (only once at the first invocation, not the others):
Removing stale pid file /var/run/gpm.pid
Using these types: ps2 imps2 autops2 and fiups2
After about a one second pause gives the message:
Alarm Clock
And then the terminal prompt reappears
No syslog is produced
This may be a further diagnostic observation:
# gpm
(just the bare command)
Will cause 3 lines in the center of my tty (console) to appear in
reverse video as if they had been hilighted by a mouse.
And ps waux|grep gpm will show that command running, until I kill it.
No syslog output is produced.
Re: Install problems from a newbie
On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 05:15:46PM -0600, Carnes, Kevin wrote:
...
> hdc:cdrom_decode_status: status = 0X51 {DriveReady Seek Complete Error}
> hdc:cdrom_decode_status: error = 0X34
> hdc: ATAPI reset complete
> hdc: irq timeout: status = 0Xd0 {Busy}
> end_request: I/O error, dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 863016
When I had problems like these, at one time the cdrom drive was dying,
at another time the cdrom couldn't cope with home burned cd's. The
latter is the most frequent cause of the problem. Unfortunately most
linux cd's are hoem burned, not pressed, and some older cdrom drives
have a hard time reading burned cdroms. Same cd, same drive:
sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.
--
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Re: More cheese nibbler questions
On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 07:55:39PM -0800, Harry Putnam wrote: > Carel Fellinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > That depends. Is your ps/2 driver compiled in or compiled as a > > seperate module? Look through /boot/config- for the awnser. > > Its not clear what any of that means and the only entry seems to be > related to mouse is this: > CONFIG_BLK_DEV_PS2=y > I'm guessing the `y' means its compiled in. An `m' would have meant > it was a module. Right. So you won't see psaux in lsmod's output. But you could try: # cat /proc/misc On my system it gives me: 144 nvram 134 apm 135 rtc 1 psaux So there it shows up. -- groetjes, carel
Re: configuring ext3 (was Re: new twist on shutting down and restricting ssh users)
On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 10:14:03PM -0500, dman wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 08:27:11PM -0600, Nathan E Norman wrote:
> | On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 08:47:54PM -0500, dman wrote:
> | > On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 11:46:41PM +, Simon Hepburn wrote:
> | > | On Wednesday 06 Mar 2002 9:11 pm, dman wrote:
> | > |
> | > | > I want to allow my dad to shut down the router/gateway.
> | > |
> | > | Install ext3fs. Show him the power switch ;-)
> | >
> | > :-). I was thinking that a journaled fs would be a really good idea,
> | > but I don't want to change it just hours before I leave in case there
> | > is some issue with it. ("some issue" mainly being PEBKAC
> | > misconfiguration somewhere, but if I'm not around to fix it ...)
> |
> | ext3 is probably a good idea if you aren't going to be around in case
> | there is a power outage or someone trips over the power cord. I use
> | etx3 on all my boxes running 2.4.17 and haven't (yet) experienced any
> | problems (now I wait for all the replies saying "ext3 is B0rken on
> | 2.4.17!!1!" :)
>
> I've got 2.4.17 on all my systems. (2.4.18 is out now, but not
> packaged last I checked) Are there any tricks or gotchas to setting
> it up? Here's what I know (I did include support in the kernel) :
> o /etc/fstab -- s/ext2/ext3/
> o make the journal file (using 'tunefs'?)
>
> The only thing I'm concerned about is trying to set up a new feature,
> but not setting it up correctly and not being around to fix the setup.
Oh, I understand your reluctance ... especially if you're leaving RSN.
I converted a system a few months ago, and another Sunday night.
Basically you "tune2fs -j /dev/whatever", change "ext2" to "ext3" in
/etc/fstab as you mentioned, and then reboot.
The only thing I'm not sure about is whether the partitions have to be
unmounted when you "tune2fs" them; my unix intuition says they do. but
then what about the root filesystem? (I run many partitions on most of
my machines).
Sunday I decided to risk it and ran tune2fs on the mounted root fs ...
added a journal and a label (those are cool, especially if you do
devfs!). So far, it seems to work. mount uses the label and says the
root fs (and all the others) are ext3. However, I can see a .journal
file in / and I don't see those in the root of the other filesystems
so I may have hosed that part.
Cheers,
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Re: More cheese nibbler questions
On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 03:05:57PM -0800, Harry Putnam wrote: > Carel Fellinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: ... > Err no, but isn't that what is printing those messages above? Yep, it is. But it's supposed to do more then just printing those:), and I prefer to eliminate all possible errors, so I asked. But again nothing wrong here, it's excactly the same as the one in my woody setup. > > make sure X is killed > > start gpm > > These tests and other reported earlier were run with no X. X was > never started. Just a console login. Well that sure is strange as I noted in an other post. The one message you managed to get out of `gpm -D ...' I get when there is already a gpm running and I start a second one with that `gpm -D ...' thing. So to me it says, there probably is a daemon after all, or so gpm thinks. > >> repeat_type=ms3 > > > > Please don't use anything else here but "raw", it complicates matters > > unwieldly if you do. ... > As posted in previous posts ... It quit working in X with the `raw' > setting. And also as posted, tests with no X and raw setting failed as > well. > Will that have a bearing on the fact that /etc/init.d/gpm force-reload > doesnt start anything. Yes, it will. As I explained before, when you instruct X to read from /dev/gpmdata then it's vital that gpm works, otherwise there will be no data for X to read from /dev/gpmdata. The raw setting instructs gpm to not perform some protocol translation whilst writing to /dev/gpmdata. Should simplify matters. But the weird thing is that gpm doesn't work in console mode either. > Here is another test with Raw setting: > /usr/sbin/gpm -V+9 -m /dev/psaux -t ps2 -Rraw > /usr/sbin/gpm -m /dev/psaux -t ps2 -Rraw > Nothing is output to syslog in either case and nothing shows up in ps output A wild wild thought just came over me, what about leaving out the repeating stuff? And go for the simplest form first: # /usr/sbin/gpm -V+9 -m /dev/psaux -t ps2 If this works, then it's likely that the ownership/protection of /dev/gpmdata is somehow incorrect, or even that it isn't a pipe. > There is one way to get massive output: > /usr/sbin/gpm -V+9 > I don't understand a word of it but maybe someone will. I'm sorry, it' gibberish to me too:( But atleast it's reading something. Wild guess work coming up: when you do # /usr/sbin/gpm -V+9 does gpm show up in `ps ax' output? And while `/usr/bin/gpm -V+9' is running does `lsof /dev/psaux' show that gpm is reading from it? If so you might try to add the protocol: # /usr/sbin/gpm -V+9 -t ps2 Just hoping to narrow it down a bit. > > cat /etc/init.d/gpm > #!/bin/sh This is the same file as on my system, so another problem source rulled out. -- groetjes, carel
Re: The quest for rodent power
Carel Fellinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] Carel, Somehow I missed this post of yours Here are some answers: > e.g. I.m curious whether the above long gpm command > ># /usr/sbin/gpm -D -m /dev/psaux -t ps2 -Rraw > > did return immediately or kept running and that you did the > ># ps waxul|grep gpm That is a typo should be # ps waxu|grep gpm > in a different xterm/console > > It's the way you worded the events that made me wonder. > Probably it's just that you wanted to make sure that gpm > didn't put itself in the background although the -D option > told it not to, but I'm not sure. Its not clear what you want to know here. I just ran the same test again. There is about a 1 second delay before the prompt comes back and prints the odd message. Alarm Clock Any of these after the -t flag: ps2 imps2 autops2 will provoke the Alarm clock message. All pause about a second. [...] > > So we really still don't know if this file is okee, do we:) Now posted >> Its just that nothing actually happens. > > yep, that's why I think you should stick to calling gpm directly and > not use /etc/init.d/gpm OK, will do. Any further tests are command line only
Re: ? about C++
Corrin Lakeland wrote: > > why the program below is wrong? Generally, it's adviseable not to reply to questions that look like someone who needs help with his school assignments. When someone presents a trivial programming problem based on a nonsensical code fragment and doesn't even tell you what errors the compiler generated, it's a good guess that he never tried to compile it -- the code, and the question "what is wrong with this code" are almost certainly a homework assignment. The best response, if one must respond at all, is simply, "Figure it out yourself -- that's why your teacher gave it to you." Craig pgpOQZms4L9us.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: OT: getting the family in on Linux. was: Re: new twist on shutting down and restricting ssh users
dman wrote: On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 07:24:49PM -0600, Matt Garman wrote: I wonder if someone has done a comparison between 1) VNC on the server vs. using XDMCP to manage a remote display 2) VNC viewer on the client vs. X server (using XDMCP) on the client I think your choices are: having VNC server and client running on server and client machines respectively; having X servers running on both machines (for XDMCP). The points of interest are : on the server : o ease of installation/setup VNC is definitely eaier. XDMCP needs you to setup the X server correctly on the server machine; ie: X can be run on the server. o performance tradeoff (memory, speed, bandwidth, etc) In terms of memory... well, the VNC has the "tight" word in it. on the client : o usability of the display software I think you'd need a 100Mbps network connection for both; even though VNC is supposed to be faster due to the more streamlined protocol. I have never been successful using "something" on XDMCP that is practical for replacing gdm; so loging in was basically done by runing the local X server using some parameters. Using VNC, all you need is to run xvncviewer. I don't know... when the Gnome login panel that understands XDMCP is ready, I think it would be nicer. My only experience with VNC is using the client (mainly the java one) Try xvncviewer; it has to be faster. The Java one is supposed to be run in a browser, right? Oki
Re: Back up using tape or remote
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > Ultimately the client wishes to run the back up remotely from their office > location and store the data off site. However I'll accept if this may be > impossible. Offsite backup is a logistical problem rather than a technical problem. Either they are willing to pay for a courier/drop the tapes at the offsite location/whatever, or they aren't. If there is a computer at the offsite location you want to back up to, then you can also use a network (internet, vpn, two modems, WAN, whatever) to ship the data offsite. For internet,vpn,WAN the command will be scp backup_site_name:backup/. For a direct modem connection you would need to set up a script and use the zmodem tool. > first off can debian support this? Of course, every operating system supports that. Even ancient ones like DOS. > second would a tape drive work and what tape drives are compatible for a 40 > meg solution? Yes, a tape drive would work, though it would be hideously expensive for only fourty megabytes (!) of data. If you happened to have a 40MB tape drive lying around... Most tape drives can be coaxed into working with Debian. The linux hardware database contains a list of hardware that is definatly compatable with linux, and if you want greater reliability/more certainty that it will be supported in future releases, then you're best off relying on that. But for 40 megs, why not buy a CD writer? (Or a zip drive) It will enable you to go up to 650MB without any trouble and, relative to a tape drive, it is practically free. > Third can you recommend a software that makes this sort of process possible > with debian. Well, tar stands for "Tape archival"... tar -c /files_to_back_up will write all the files to a tape. If you're writing to something other than a tape then you need to use a -f as well, e.g. tar -c /files_to_back_up -f - | cdrecord -b Just off the top of my head, you might need different arguments. There are other ways, e.g. the copy command, even software you have to pay for, but tar is simple and effective. If you stick this in as a cron job (crontab -e) then it will automatically burn the backup to CD every day/week/whatever. Make sure you've got sensible options to cdrecord before you set this up or a later backup will destroy an older one. There are graphical tools as well, e.g. karchiver, though it is a pain having to load a graphical too each day. Have a look on freshmeat or slashdot if you want to go that way. I just noticed you were a video streaming company. If you mean fourty megabytes/second rather than fourty megabytes total then that is rather a lot harder. Corrin -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6d-cvs (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE8hufri5A0ZsG8x8cRAlENAKCMweAaQ1oEkdrK0XsJW4Il089kbwCfexpK rrFqRYmUDJarBHb2IaZTwgo= =LX5j -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: qmail postmanster passwd
On Sunday 03 March 2002 07:32 am, David Gardi pronounced: > Hi, > anyone know how to change postmaster password using qmail? > David. david: i am not sure what you mean by "change postmaster password using qmail" as there are no passwords "within" qmail. please let me know what you are trying to accomplish and mayhaps i can help you out. -- regards, allen
Re: More cheese nibbler questions
Carel Fellinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > That depends. Is your ps/2 driver compiled in or compiled as a > seperate module? Look through /boot/config- for the awnser. Its not clear what any of that means and the only entry seems to be related to mouse is this: CONFIG_BLK_DEV_PS2=y I'm guessing the `y' means its compiled in. An `m' would have meant it was a module.
Re: chkconfig is to redhat as ___ is to debian?
Why dont you just create the symlinks yourself. Its what I do. On Wed, 2002-03-06 at 17:17, Michael Marziani wrote: > I've poked around dselect and can't find chkconfig. Is this included in > some larger package of handy admin utils? If no chkconfig, is there a > package that does something similar? > > Thanks! > > -Mike > > _ > Michael D. Marziani > Systems Administrator > Keller Williams Realty International > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- Arthur H. Johnson II President, Genesee County Linux Users Group Debian GNU/Linux Advocate [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gclug.org -- "Don't try to outweird me, three-eyes. I get stranger things than you free with my breakfast cereal." - Zaphod Beeblebrox in "Hitchiker's Guide to the Galaxy"
Re: ? about C++
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On Thu, 07 Mar 2002 15:52, a wrote:
> (sorry! if you know any other mailing list i should send, pls tell me)
This is a mailing list on how to use the debian operating system, so it isn't
a particularly good choice. You'd have been better off on a specialist
programming mailing list for, or even debian-devel.
> why the program below is wrong?
>
> class t
> {public :
> static char *p;
> };
> char t::*p;
> main()
> {t k;
> k.p="";
> }
>
Firstly, formatting would make this much easier to read.
class t {
public:
static char *p;
};
char t::*p;
main() {
t k;
k.p="";
}
There is a lot of personal preference involved, but this is much easier to
read than the one you wrote.
Now, the problem is with the line char t::*p
This says to use the default initialiser for the character pointed to by t's
member named p. I'm not sure this is valid even if t::p had been declared,
but it isn't valid if it hasn't.
changing it to
char * t::p should work.
Corrin
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Re: networking problems withe Linksys router
On Wed, 2002-03-06 at 19:50, Chris Jenks wrote: > At 07:35 AM 3/6/02, Paul Mackinney wrote: > >Chris Jenks declaimed: > > > Before I put the router in I had no problem connecting to my Comcast cable > > > modem from either windows, or linux and even had woody installed. After > > > putting the router in, I can no longer access the anywhere on the LAN or > > > the Internet from the Linux. When in windows (like right now) I have no > > > problem. > >This sounds like a straight-up Linux IP configuration issue, especially > >if the Linux box can't connect to other devices on your LAN. Or do you > >have a reason for believing otherwise? > > If I swap the Linksys router out with my old hub, I don't have the problem. > If it was a linux IP config issue, it wouldn't work either way. It's > differently > an issue with the cable router (with built in switch). Since other people are > using the router and not having a problem, I'm thinking it's the MAC address > cloning. I'm not sure if it's the same problem, but I have the same cable router. I had no trouble with it while using the wired connections, but had exactly the symptoms you describe with the wireless connection. A firmware update fixed everything (this was about a week ago).
Bind 9
Hi, I set my DNS server to forward requests to other servers. In the internal net, there are two DNS servers that forward the requests to this server. How can I set up this server so that it doesn't forward requests for internal hosts? eg: request for internal PTR records. Is bind v.9 the answer? Thanks in advance, Oki
Back up using tape or remote
Hi Group I'm looking for a solution for baking up a server that is running debian. The goal is to back-up the MYSQL database aswell as the critical data on the hard drive. Ultimately the client wishes to run the back up remotely from their office location and store the data off site. However I'll accept if this may be impossible. first off can debian support this? second would a tape drive work and what tape drives are compatible for a 40 meg solution? Third can you recommend a software that makes this sort of process possible with debian. Any help will be greatly appreciated Best regards Billy Kirkley RadioCity.com.au Limited Leaders in On-Line Video Solutions Freecall: 1800-NET-VIDEO Telephone: +61 7 3367 8900 Facsimile: +61 7 3367 8999 Mobile: 0418 985 376 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Studio: Unit 6, 18 Kilroe Street, Milton, QLD 4064 Postal: PO Box 1689, Milton, QLD 4064 RadioCity assists clients to achieve online, real-time communication by offering video streaming solutions that enable people to view video immediately as it downloads from the Internet. Why not "video stream" your next seminar, product launch or annual general meeting either live or on-demand via YOUR website!
Re: Install problems from a newbie
On Wed, 2002-03-06 at 20:03, Joe wrote: > On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 05:15:46PM -0600, Carnes, Kevin wrote: [snip] > At the risk of getting flamed by this particular group, I might suggest > starting with another distro just to prove to yourself that Linux is > indeed easy to install. As much as I happen to like Debian for its > philosophy, its packaging system, and everything else, the install does > leave a bit to be desired. Until you've been through it 5 or 10 times > and maybe grown accustomed to it. > > I am not exaggerating when I say: > The latest versions of RedHat, Suse, & Mandrake are all far easier to > install than Windows. And just might do a better job of detecting > hardware & self-configuring. > Debian is not like that. A!! Recommending RPM distros! Stone him! Stone him! Libranet is end-user oriented, and debian-based. -- ++ | Ron Johnson, Jr.Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | Jefferson, LA USA http://ronandheather.dhs.org:81| || | "(Women are) like compilers. They take simple statements | | and make them into big productions." | | Pitr Dubovitch ++
Re: OT: Aliens in the heavans (was Re: seti@home)
On Wed, 2002-03-06 at 19:01, Matt Garman wrote: > On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 03:24:32AM -0500, Chris Jenks wrote: > > Forgetting all of the rest of your email, if you were an alien, > > would you want to contact this planet, just based off your first > > paragraph? > > > > Chris > > ps I'm not looking for a flame war, just pointing out that the > > signals that we are sending out there are not worth replying > > to. > > Well, if the aliens managed to perservere despite a significantly > lower lower quality of life than ours, then they might certainly be > interested in our media. It seems possible that an alien civilization > could be completely barbaric (constantly warring, anarchy) and yet be > technologically advanced (enough to send/receive galactic messages). > Those aliens might look at us and say, wow, that planet gets by with > only 75% barbarianism! > > Disclaimer: I do love to read sci-fi :) Seems to me that all that warring and anarchy on a completely barbaric planey would exauhst all the time/imagination/resources. Would they want to spend resources on inter-stellar research, when they could be spending it trying to destroy the enemy? How OT are we now??? -- ++ | Ron Johnson, Jr.Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | Jefferson, LA USA http://ronandheather.dhs.org:81| || | "(Women are) like compilers. They take simple statements | | and make them into big productions." | | Pitr Dubovitch ++
configuring ext3 (was Re: new twist on shutting down and restricting ssh users)
On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 08:27:11PM -0600, Nathan E Norman wrote:
| On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 08:47:54PM -0500, dman wrote:
| > On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 11:46:41PM +, Simon Hepburn wrote:
| > | On Wednesday 06 Mar 2002 9:11 pm, dman wrote:
| > |
| > | > I want to allow my dad to shut down the router/gateway.
| > |
| > | Install ext3fs. Show him the power switch ;-)
| >
| > :-). I was thinking that a journaled fs would be a really good idea,
| > but I don't want to change it just hours before I leave in case there
| > is some issue with it. ("some issue" mainly being PEBKAC
| > misconfiguration somewhere, but if I'm not around to fix it ...)
|
| ext3 is probably a good idea if you aren't going to be around in case
| there is a power outage or someone trips over the power cord. I use
| etx3 on all my boxes running 2.4.17 and haven't (yet) experienced any
| problems (now I wait for all the replies saying "ext3 is B0rken on
| 2.4.17!!1!" :)
I've got 2.4.17 on all my systems. (2.4.18 is out now, but not
packaged last I checked) Are there any tricks or gotchas to setting
it up? Here's what I know (I did include support in the kernel) :
o /etc/fstab -- s/ext2/ext3/
o make the journal file (using 'tunefs'?)
The only thing I'm concerned about is trying to set up a new feature,
but not setting it up correctly and not being around to fix the setup.
TIA,
-D
--
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Philippians 4:13
Re: SoundBlaster Live!, /dev/audio, and bad sound quality
> In general, everything works fine, except that sending .au files to > /dev/audio has really lousy sound quality. You can hear the sound, but > there's a loud hissing or static sound on top of it. I had this I have been having the same problem and have lived with it for a few monthes. The main thing that didn't work for me was "saytime", and that kind of bothered me because on my previous computer I put saytime on an hourly cron job so I don't loose track of time :-) Reading this thread finally pushed me to find a workaround for saytime, and I will be glad to share it with any other emu10k users who might want it. Basically I edited the source code to dump it through sox with "play -t ul -r 8000 file.au". Not pretty but it works. Email me directly if you want it. -- Thank you, Joe Bouchard Powered by Debian GNU/Linux
Re: Sun hardware
On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 07:53:15PM -0600, Dimitri Maziuk wrote:
> Errm. Not that I know the answer, but... Is there something wrong with
> Solaris?
i think many of us have been spoiled by all the tools we can have
installed effortlessly on our nice debian machines. i know i have
been. i liked playing around as a solaris admin, once i built all the
tools i needed to make it useful, and until the day when i could not
get some critical set of patches to magically apply.
--
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? about C++
(sorry! if you know any other mailing list i should send, pls tell me)
why the program below is wrong?
class t
{public :
static char *p;
};
char t::*p;
main()
{t k;
k.p="";
}
i'll leave the list soon,pls reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Install problems from a newbie
One could install the Progeny distro and dist-upgrade to woody. It only leaves 4-5 progeny packages on the system and you have a good working woody system. On Wed, 2002-03-06 at 20:03, Joe wrote: > On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 05:15:46PM -0600, Carnes, Kevin wrote: > > OK, after hearing lots of hype about how Linux is the best thing since > > sliced bread, > > Better. Like bread with jam. > > >I'm putting the claims to the test and trying to install > > Debian on a new Intel box. > > Debian? What sadist told you to start with Debian? > > >I'm an old VAX/VMS system manager and have > > been playing with computers in various forms for 20 years. > > So you should have a good head start on things like understanding the > process, planning your disk partitions, making a cheatsheet (or not > needing one) of all your relevant hardware in case the info is > required. > > >If Linux is > > so easy to install, I should be able to do it with a minimum of bother, > > right? NOT! So, this mailing list request is a test of Linux support. > > I'm assuming this is where you go when stuck. > > At the risk of getting flamed by this particular group, I might suggest > starting with another distro just to prove to yourself that Linux is > indeed easy to install. As much as I happen to like Debian for its > philosophy, its packaging system, and everything else, the install does > leave a bit to be desired. Until you've been through it 5 or 10 times > and maybe grown accustomed to it. > > I am not exaggerating when I say: > The latest versions of RedHat, Suse, & Mandrake are all far easier to > install than Windows. And just might do a better job of detecting > hardware & self-configuring. > Debian is not like that. > > You want an easy install? Here's another one. Linux geeks tend to look > down their noses at Corel Linux, and it's now pretty out of date, but > wow what an easy install that one had. As long as all your hardware > was supported, you had to click your mouse maybe half a dozen times > and then 10 to 12 minutes later you'd be done - online, sharing files > on an existing Windoze network, using your printer, whatever. > > -CraigW > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
Re: apm strangeness
<> > > Okay, I ran modconf and installed apm module in the > kernel. Before wasn't apm built into most debian > kernel images? I also did a ``cp -R > /lib/modules/kernel-pcmcia-2.4.18-686 > /lib/modules/2.4.18-686/pcmcia'' and the pcmcia > modules showed up in modconf. I installed > yenta_socket, xirc2ps_cs and a couple of other > things. > Rebooted into 2.4.17 and presto, apmd started at > boot > time as well as my pcmcia nic. Started up > WindowMaker, > and wmbattery started as well. Next I'll see if I > can't get 2.4.18 to behave.One last strange thing, > uname -a reports 2.4.18-686, but linuxlogo is > reporting 2.4.17-686. /proc/version shows 2.4.18-686 > as well. > > <> Following the same procedure for 2.4.18 as outlined above for 2.4.17 seemed to fix things. I still don't understand why 2.4.17 got a little messed up. Linuxlogo didn't install properly due to bug #137007 , http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=137007&repeatmerged=yes After following advice filed w/ bug, linuxlogo and several other packages all installed just fine. Apm and pcmcia nic are working as expected in 2.4.18 . I know things are occasionally broken in sid, but the kernel package? But I don't even know at this point, that I shold point fingers at the kernel package. If anyone has any clues, please share them. BTW, is the af_packet module really needed for a xircom pcmcia nic? I think I may have installed it at some time before when I really wanted the yenta module. I had a glance at the source of both, and have only a very vague notion of what they do. = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hacking is a "Good Thing!" See http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html __ Do You Yahoo!? Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! http://mail.yahoo.com/
ClueBat [was: Re: ??????????????????????????????????????]
Dear Bruce, and others who think it's cute to reply to spam: Please do not post your responses to spam to the list! It's a waste of everyone's time, especially when you quote the whole freaking spam (which thankfully in this case wasn't too long). It also really hoses up people who are doing spam filtering. Sorry to everyone for sending _this_ to the list, but Bruce got mad at me when I sent him an "attachment" (a GPG signed mail, below) and then told him Outlook Express was "stupid" because it doesn't handle signed messages. He's now discarding email from me and my domain. No big loss I guess :) On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 12:45:54PM -0600, Nathan E Norman wrote: > Please don't reply to the list when replying to spam. It's rude. > > On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 12:42:39AM -0800, Bruce Burhans wrote: > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: > > Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 3:55 PM > > Subject: ?? > > [ snip spam and Bruce's reply (apparently he was trying to be funny)] -- Nathan Norman - Staff Engineer | A good plan today is better Micromuse Ltd. | than a perfect plan tomorrow. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- Patton pgpT6tdGIzjV4.pgp Description: PGP signature
I killed X11 (potato-to-woody)
So I'm in some very deep trouble. I upgraded Xfree86 to the 4.1 level in potato without making a debian package. Then, when I tried to install xine from the testing tree I hosed the system. I have now done a complete system upgrade to testing and everything works except X11 (a big exception). When I try to use XFree86 -configure I get alot of unresolved symbols from modules in /usr/X11R6/lib/modules. Does anyone have a good idea of how to uninstall and reinstall Xfree86. Here is a summary of the dumb and exceptionally dumb things I've done. 1. Installing 4.1 straight from a tar ball into potato 2. When the upgrade into testing failed because of files already existing in /etc/X11 I simply whiped it clean 3. I've uninstalled and reinstalled task-x-windows-core. What happened then was a hybrid system. When I tried to run gdm, xinit or startx (all the same really) 3.3.6 would try to start with a 4.1 config file. What I want is to remove every vestige of 3.6 and install a clean 4.1 deb package. Art Edwards
Re: new twist on shutting down and restricting ssh users
On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 08:47:54PM -0500, dman wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 11:46:41PM +, Simon Hepburn wrote:
> | On Wednesday 06 Mar 2002 9:11 pm, dman wrote:
> |
> | > I want to allow my dad to shut down the router/gateway.
> |
> | Install ext3fs. Show him the power switch ;-)
>
> :-). I was thinking that a journaled fs would be a really good idea,
> but I don't want to change it just hours before I leave in case there
> is some issue with it. ("some issue" mainly being PEBKAC
> misconfiguration somewhere, but if I'm not around to fix it ...)
ext3 is probably a good idea if you aren't going to be around in case
there is a power outage or someone trips over the power cord. I use
etx3 on all my boxes running 2.4.17 and haven't (yet) experienced any
problems (now I wait for all the replies saying "ext3 is B0rken on
2.4.17!!1!" :)
Good luck,
--
Nathan Norman - Staff Engineer | A good plan today is better
Micromuse Ltd. | than a perfect plan tomorrow.
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- Patton
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Re: OT: getting the family in on Linux. was: Re: new twist on shutting down and restricting ssh users
On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 07:24:49PM -0600, Matt Garman wrote: [...] | This made me think some folks on this group might be interesting in | learning how I setup the family computers to allow my parents to ease | into Linux. [...] | The solution: vnc. [...] That's a good idea. Another possibility is to install cygwin and XFree86 and enable XDMCP on the linux box. I don't know why, but X is really sluggish on my dad's win98 PII 300 with 192MB RAM (I used to have RH 6.1 and later 7.0 on it with only 64MB RAM and it was just fine). I wonder if someone has done a comparison between 1) VNC on the server vs. using XDMCP to manage a remote display 2) VNC viewer on the client vs. X server (using XDMCP) on the client The points of interest are : on the server : o ease of installation/setup o performance tradeoff (memory, speed, bandwidth, etc) on the client : o usability of the display software My only experience with VNC is using the client (mainly the java one) to connect to a WinNT and Win2k box. The server on windows takes a good chunk of CPU to run, and with windows each user fights over control. (for a short while it's funny to hear my boss yell "hey" when the mouse moves around on him when he went to do something with the server) Just some food for thought ... HAND, -D PS. I'll be offline for a few days, starting RSN, but I'll catch up eventually. -- Many a man claims to have unfailing love, but a faithful man who can find? Proverbs 20:6
Re: Install problems from a newbie
On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 05:15:46PM -0600, Carnes, Kevin wrote: > OK, after hearing lots of hype about how Linux is the best thing since > sliced bread, Better. Like bread with jam. >I'm putting the claims to the test and trying to install > Debian on a new Intel box. Debian? What sadist told you to start with Debian? >I'm an old VAX/VMS system manager and have > been playing with computers in various forms for 20 years. So you should have a good head start on things like understanding the process, planning your disk partitions, making a cheatsheet (or not needing one) of all your relevant hardware in case the info is required. >If Linux is > so easy to install, I should be able to do it with a minimum of bother, > right? NOT! So, this mailing list request is a test of Linux support. > I'm assuming this is where you go when stuck. At the risk of getting flamed by this particular group, I might suggest starting with another distro just to prove to yourself that Linux is indeed easy to install. As much as I happen to like Debian for its philosophy, its packaging system, and everything else, the install does leave a bit to be desired. Until you've been through it 5 or 10 times and maybe grown accustomed to it. I am not exaggerating when I say: The latest versions of RedHat, Suse, & Mandrake are all far easier to install than Windows. And just might do a better job of detecting hardware & self-configuring. Debian is not like that. You want an easy install? Here's another one. Linux geeks tend to look down their noses at Corel Linux, and it's now pretty out of date, but wow what an easy install that one had. As long as all your hardware was supported, you had to click your mouse maybe half a dozen times and then 10 to 12 minutes later you'd be done - online, sharing files on an existing Windoze network, using your printer, whatever. -CraigW
Connecting to X session
Hi, If I remember correctly, there was a question about connecting to an X session for remote display (well, what else). I just tried to run VNC , and the default setting is "shared"; which means that anyone who connects to the same display number, will get the same desktop. It can be done in the following: In the machine you want to monitor (to have a desktop on): vncserver Of course, this can be done remotely; eg: using ssh. You'd be prompted for a password and later you'd get output of the display number. To connect to the VNC server, in your local machine run: xvncviewer : You'd be prompted to enter the password. In this first run, you may get nothing but an empty desktop; to have an xterm running, just run "xterm -display ", on the server machine. Once you have an xterm on the VNC viewer window, basically you can do anything. To kill the viewer, just close the window; you don't need to close all the running applications. Next time you connect, you'd get everything that was left (assuming that the VNC server wouldn't get killed). BTW, in the default connection, VNC doesn't use encryption. Oki
Re: How can I remove xdm?
Francisco M. Marzoa Alonso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I want remove xdm package so I'm not using it (I've remove all links
> related in all runlevels, but I don't need this using hard disk for
> more). But if I try an apt-get remove xdm it also removes
> x-window-system... why? I think this is a bit stupid...
{2} dmaze% apt-cache show x-window-system
Package: x-window-system
Depends: x-window-system-core, lbxproxy, proxymngr, twm, xdm, xfs, xfwp, xnest,
xprt, xspecs, xterm, xvfb
Description: X Window System
This metapackage provides substantially all the components of the X Window
System as developed by the XFree86 Project, as well as a set of historically
popular accessory programs.
.
The development and debugging libraries are not provided by this metapackage.
In other words, x-window-system doesn't actually contain any files on
its own; it just depends on other packages so that you'd get what you
got if you "installed X" on a traditional Un*x system. This includes
xdm (since it's part of the X11 distribution). But removing
x-window-system doesn't cause any of the other things it depends on to
be removed.
> Finally, I've removed it using dpkg instead of apt-get:
>
> crom:~# dpkg --ignore-depends=xdm -r xdm
You should ~never need to use an --ignore or --force option to dpkg;
Red Hat this ain't. :-) You can do this if you *really* want to, but
then APT will complain that you don't have a consistent set of
packages installed and will want you to 'apt-get -f install' (which
will either install xdm or remove x-window-system) before you can do
anything else.
In short, removing x-window-system is harmless, and you need to do it
if you want to remove xdm. 'dpkg --remove x-window-system' should do
the trick for you.
--
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"Theoretical politics is interesting. Politicking should be illegal."
-- Abra Mitchell
Re: apm strangeness
--- Charles Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- Nick Hastings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Hi Charles, > > <> > > > > --- Sean 'Shaleh' Perry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > Look in /proc. There should be an apm file > > there. > > > > If not, linux is NOT using > > > > apm. > > > > > > Okay, no /proc/apm but what could've killed it > for > > > 2.4.17 ? It was working just fine before I > > installed 2.4.18 . > > > > What is in your /etc/lilo.conf now? > > <> > > lba32 > boot=/dev/hda > root=/dev/hda3 > install=/boot/boot.b > map=/boot/map > delay=20 > vga=1 > append="apm=on" > default=LinuxOld > > image=/vmlinuz > initrd=/initrd.img > label=LinuxNew > read-only > > image=/vmlinuz.old > initrd=/initrd.img.old > label=LinuxOld > read-only > > image=/vmlinuz2.2 > label=Linux22 > read-only > optional > > All other lines are comments from original install. > vmlinuz -> boot/vmlinuz-2.4.18-686 > vmlinuz.old -> boot/vmlinuz-2.4.17-686 > vmlinuz.2.2 -> boot/vmlinuz-2.2.18pre21 > > initrd.img -> boot/initrd.img-2.4.18-686 > initrd.img.old -> boot/initrd.img-2.4.17-686 > > The weird thing w/ this is that 2.4.17 was using apm > before I installed and did the dist-upgrade ( which > btw did upgrade apmd ). > > BTW, in my other post I mentioned a little pcmcia > strangeness. Saw no reply, but I did a ``modprobe > yenta_socket'' and then a ``modprobe xirc2ps_cs'' > and > brought the pcmcia nic back up. I guess I need to > use > modconf again to make this semi-permanent? <> Okay, I ran modconf and installed apm module in the kernel. Before wasn't apm built into most debian kernel images? I also did a ``cp -R /lib/modules/kernel-pcmcia-2.4.18-686 /lib/modules/2.4.18-686/pcmcia'' and the pcmcia modules showed up in modconf. I installed yenta_socket, xirc2ps_cs and a couple of other things. Rebooted into 2.4.17 and presto, apmd started at boot time as well as my pcmcia nic. Started up WindowMaker, and wmbattery started as well. Next I'll see if I can't get 2.4.18 to behave.One last strange thing, uname -a reports 2.4.18-686, but linuxlogo is reporting 2.4.17-686. /proc/version shows 2.4.18-686 as well. = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hacking is a "Good Thing!" See http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html __ Do You Yahoo!? Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! http://mail.yahoo.com/
Re: Sun hardware
* Paul DeHerrera ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) spake thusly: > Will debian work on my Sun Enterprise 4500 server, which has 8 processors, > 16GB of RAM and 8 D1000 StorEdge disk arrays? > If so, what is the latest release (kernel version)? Errm. Not that I know the answer, but... Is there something wrong with Solaris? Dima -- Backwards compatibility is either a pun or an oxymoron. -- PGN
Re: How can I remove xdm?
On Thu, Mar 07, 2002 at 02:13:57AM +0100, Francisco M. Marzoa Alonso wrote: | Hi there, | | I want remove xdm package so I'm not using it (I've remove all links related | in all runlevels, but I don't need this using hard disk for more). But if I | try an apt-get remove xdm it also removes x-window-system... why? I think | this is a bit stupid... Nah, "x-window-system" isn't a real package. It is an empty package that exists merely to depend on a bunch of other packages that will be useful if you want to run X. You can remove the 'x-window-system' package and nothing will happen, apart from freeing up a couple kilobytes of disk space. Those empty "task" packages don't exist in woody anyways -- they've been replaced by the "tasksel" program that is more intuitive (or so I've heard) and works better than the old mechanism. (one problem with the old mechanism is it isn't wholly reversible -- you install the "x-window-system" task package and get a whole bunch of stuff installed, however removing "x-window-system" doesn't remove anything) Your confusion is one other reason for replacing the "task" packages with 'tasksel'. HTH, -D -- Even youths grow tired and weary, and young men stumble and fall; but those who hope in the Lord will renew their strength. They will soar on wings like eagles; they will run and not grow weary, they will walk and not be faint. Isaiah 40:31
Re: new twist on shutting down and restricting ssh users
On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 11:46:41PM +, Simon Hepburn wrote:
| On Wednesday 06 Mar 2002 9:11 pm, dman wrote:
|
| > I want to allow my dad to shut down the router/gateway.
|
| Install ext3fs. Show him the power switch ;-)
:-). I was thinking that a journaled fs would be a really good idea,
but I don't want to change it just hours before I leave in case there
is some issue with it. ("some issue" mainly being PEBKAC
misconfiguration somewhere, but if I'm not around to fix it ...)
-D
--
"He is no fool who gives up what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose."
--Jim Elliot
Re: postgresql upgrade problem
--- Charles Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > After postgresql was kept back on both an upgrade > and > a dist-upgrade, I tried an install. This is the > result: > > twin:/etc/apt# apt-get install postgresql > Reading Package Lists... Done > Building Dependency Tree... Done > Some packages could not be installed. This may mean > that you have > requested an impossible situation or if you are > using > the unstable > distribution that some required packages have not > yet > been created > or been moved out of Incoming. > > Since you only requested a single operation it is > extremely likely that > the package is simply not installable and a bug > report > against > that package should be filed. > The following information may help to resolve the > situation: > > Sorry, but the following packages have unmet > dependencies: > postgresql: Conflicts: postgresql-client (< 7.2) > but > 7.1.3-8 is to be installed > E: Sorry, broken packages > > I used different mirrors over a couple of days w/ > the > same result. However, on my laptop postgreslql 7.2-4 > installed just fine. But on my desktop I'm stuck at > postgresql 7.1.3-8 . > <> Well, I just did an ``apt-get install postgresql-client'' and it caused many supporting packages to be installed including postgresql. Is this indicative of a dependancy problem for these packages? = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hacking is a "Good Thing!" See http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html __ Do You Yahoo!? Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! http://mail.yahoo.com/
Re: How can I remove xdm?
I'm a prophet... crom:~# apt-get dist-upgrade Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these. Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies: x-window-system: Depends: xdm but it is not installed E: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f. ... On Thursday 07 March 2002 02:13, I wrote: [...] > crom:~# dpkg --ignore-depends=xdm -r xdm > > But I'm unsure about if this is a secure manner to do this kind of > things... there's a voice whispering me that says when I use next apt-get > to update or upgrade my system it'll install xdm again without my > knowledge... O_o... [...] Well... at least it will be done with my knowledge...
OT: getting the family in on Linux. was: Re: new twist on shutting down and restricting ssh users
On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 01:28:02PM -0800, nate wrote: > I personally do not let anyone in my family touch my > computers, its the unspoken law. Don't go near them. > i setup my ultra 1 so people can use it for stuff, but > my firewalls and real servers are off limits. I have a somewhat similar situation here at my house. This made me think some folks on this group might be interesting in learning how I setup the family computers to allow my parents to ease into Linux. The concept here isn't particularly deep or anything, but it was quite a while before the idea dawned on me. Basically, I had talked up Linux so much to my dad that he was legitimately interested in giving it a try. But I didn't really want to do the work to backup all his Windows data, repartition, install Linux, and get the whole dual-boot thing going. Even then my dad might not use it simply because he'd have to reboot when going between systems. The solution: vnc. I have two computers, my "workstation" and my "server." The server's role is diald, firewall and gateway. So most of the time it just sits working on [EMAIL PROTECTED] Finally a simple idea came to me: I could make an account for my dad on the server machine and have vncserver running on it. I also installed KDE for him, as well as StarOffice and Mozilla. I also have samba going, and shared his home directory to the "network neighborhood." That allowed him to map his Linux account directory on his NT box as a network drive (i.e. seamless sharing of files between his Windows pc and his Linux home directory). Thus far it's worked out really well for him. When we get some more time, I plan to go over some of the intricacies with him, maybe ease him into some sysadmin type stuff. Anyway---I don't want to insult anyone's intelligence---I had the capability of doing this long before I got the idea, so my goal was to help out anyone on whom this hadn't yet dawned :) It's an easy way to let someone slowly wade into Linux without having to do the whole partition and dual-boot rigamarole. -- Matt Garman, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ``I ain't never seen no whiskey, the blues made my sloppy drunk!'' -- Sleepy John Estes, ``Leaving Trunk''
Sun hardware
Will debian work on my Sun Enterprise 4500 server, which has 8 processors, 16GB of RAM and 8 D1000 StorEdge disk arrays? If so, what is the latest release (kernel version)? Paul DeHerrera Large Scale Biology Corporation http://www.lsbc.com 707.469.2357
How can I remove xdm?
Hi there, I want remove xdm package so I'm not using it (I've remove all links related in all runlevels, but I don't need this using hard disk for more). But if I try an apt-get remove xdm it also removes x-window-system... why? I think this is a bit stupid... Finally, I've removed it using dpkg instead of apt-get: crom:~# dpkg --ignore-depends=xdm -r xdm But I'm unsure about if this is a secure manner to do this kind of things... there's a voice whispering me that says when I use next apt-get to update or upgrade my system it'll install xdm again without my knowledge... O_o... Anyway... the question is... Why x-window-system depends on xdm? XFree does not need xdm to work, moreover is that xdm needs XFree to do it. Magical mystery machine...
postgresql upgrade problem
After postgresql was kept back on both an upgrade and a dist-upgrade, I tried an install. This is the result: twin:/etc/apt# apt-get install postgresql Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that the package is simply not installable and a bug report against that package should be filed. The following information may help to resolve the situation: Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies: postgresql: Conflicts: postgresql-client (< 7.2) but 7.1.3-8 is to be installed E: Sorry, broken packages I used different mirrors over a couple of days w/ the same result. However, on my laptop postgreslql 7.2-4 installed just fine. But on my desktop I'm stuck at postgresql 7.1.3-8 . = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hacking is a "Good Thing!" See http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html __ Do You Yahoo!? Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! http://mail.yahoo.com/
Re: networking problems withe Linksys router
At 07:35 AM 3/6/02, Paul Mackinney wrote: Chris Jenks declaimed: > Before I put the router in I had no problem connecting to my Comcast cable > modem from either windows, or linux and even had woody installed. After > putting the router in, I can no longer access the anywhere on the LAN or > the Internet from the Linux. When in windows (like right now) I have no > problem. This sounds like a straight-up Linux IP configuration issue, especially if the Linux box can't connect to other devices on your LAN. Or do you have a reason for believing otherwise? If I swap the Linksys router out with my old hub, I don't have the problem. If it was a linux IP config issue, it wouldn't work either way. It's differently an issue with the cable router (with built in switch). Since other people are using the router and not having a problem, I'm thinking it's the MAC address cloning.
Re: OT: Aliens in the heavans (was Re: seti@home)
On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 03:24:32AM -0500, Chris Jenks wrote: > Forgetting all of the rest of your email, if you were an alien, > would you want to contact this planet, just based off your first > paragraph? > > Chris > ps I'm not looking for a flame war, just pointing out that the > signals that we are sending out there are not worth replying > to. Well, if the aliens managed to perservere despite a significantly lower lower quality of life than ours, then they might certainly be interested in our media. It seems possible that an alien civilization could be completely barbaric (constantly warring, anarchy) and yet be technologically advanced (enough to send/receive galactic messages). Those aliens might look at us and say, wow, that planet gets by with only 75% barbarianism! Disclaimer: I do love to read sci-fi :) Matt -- Matt Garman, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ``I ain't never seen no whiskey, the blues made my sloppy drunk!'' -- Sleepy John Estes, ``Leaving Trunk''
Re: apm strangeness
--- Nick Hastings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Charles, <> > > --- Sean 'Shaleh' Perry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > Look in /proc. There should be an apm file > there. > > > If not, linux is NOT using > > > apm. > > > > Okay, no /proc/apm but what could've killed it for > > 2.4.17 ? It was working just fine before I > installed 2.4.18 . > > What is in your /etc/lilo.conf now? <> lba32 boot=/dev/hda root=/dev/hda3 install=/boot/boot.b map=/boot/map delay=20 vga=1 append="apm=on" default=LinuxOld image=/vmlinuz initrd=/initrd.img label=LinuxNew read-only image=/vmlinuz.old initrd=/initrd.img.old label=LinuxOld read-only image=/vmlinuz2.2 label=Linux22 read-only optional All other lines are comments from original install. vmlinuz -> boot/vmlinuz-2.4.18-686 vmlinuz.old -> boot/vmlinuz-2.4.17-686 vmlinuz.2.2 -> boot/vmlinuz-2.2.18pre21 initrd.img -> boot/initrd.img-2.4.18-686 initrd.img.old -> boot/initrd.img-2.4.17-686 The weird thing w/ this is that 2.4.17 was using apm before I installed and did the dist-upgrade ( which btw did upgrade apmd ). BTW, in my other post I mentioned a little pcmcia strangeness. Saw no reply, but I did a ``modprobe yenta_socket'' and then a ``modprobe xirc2ps_cs'' and brought the pcmcia nic back up. I guess I need to use modconf again to make this semi-permanent? = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hacking is a "Good Thing!" See http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html __ Do You Yahoo!? Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! http://mail.yahoo.com/
Re: question about /bin utils
True enough, in (my) potato there's no /bin/vi, although there are other editors (ae and ed). In (my) woody there is, though: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ls /bin/vi /bin/vi (Not that I'd have the beginnings of a clue how to actually use ae or ed if I were in that situation) ap -- Andrew J Perrin - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.unc.edu/~aperrin Assistant Professor of Sociology, U of North Carolina, Chapel Hill 269 Hamilton Hall, CB#3210, Chapel Hill, NC 27599-3210 USA On Wed, 6 Mar 2002, Michael Marziani wrote: > While I was replacing my vi with vim, I noticed that there is no /bin/vi > at all, it's in /usr/bin. I've never seen a distro without a /bin/vi; > how do I edit my files when my /usr partition crashes? > > Just curious if anyone has some insight into this. I would rather think > that I made a mistake than debian did something wrong. > > -Mike > > _ > Michael D. Marziani > Systems Administrator > Keller Williams Realty International > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >
Re: question about /bin utils
On 06-Mar-2002 Michael Marziani wrote: > While I was replacing my vi with vim, I noticed that there is no /bin/vi > at all, it's in /usr/bin. I've never seen a distro without a /bin/vi; > how do I edit my files when my /usr partition crashes? > > Just curious if anyone has some insight into this. I would rather think > that I made a mistake than debian did something wrong. > there is no /bin/vi because there is more than one vi (you installed vim). The default install should have given you an editor in /bin.
Re: MAKEDEV doesn't know how to make "klog"
Jeronimo Pellegrini wrote: I've been trying to use msyslog, but there's one little problem: it will not log kernel messages (although it logs other messages), and I believe it's because I don't have a /dev/klog. There's no /dev/klog in /usr/src/linux/Documentation/devices.txt. For running MAKEDEV, you'd need to know the major and minor numbers of the devices. Oki
Re: new twist on shutting down and restricting ssh users
On Wednesday 06 Mar 2002 9:11 pm, dman wrote: > I want to allow my dad to shut down the router/gateway. Install ext3fs. Show him the power switch ;-) -- Simon Hepburn.
Re: question about /bin utils
> "Michael" == Michael Marziani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Michael> While I was replacing my vi with vim, I noticed that there Michael> is no /bin/vi at all, it's in /usr/bin. I've never seen a Michael> distro without a /bin/vi; how do I edit my files when my Michael> /usr partition crashes? ed! it's the standard! text editor! -- joe
Re: Re: lilo wierdness
James Hughes wrote: >I actually use grub on my (linux-only) laptop, and I agree, it is >better. I've just never gotten around to figuring out the chain-loading >feature for use on my dual-boot (w/win98) desktop machine. In /boot/grub/menu.lst. Assuming win98 lives in /dev/hda1 title windows root (hd0,0) makeactive chainloader +1 -->paolo Paolo Falcone __ www.edsamail.com
Re: attached: error output for X
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've attached a file conatining the output I am getting from startx. I don't understand it. Can anyone help? xucaen XFree86 Version 3.3.6a / X Window System (protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6300) Release Date: xx November 2000 If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is newer than the above date, look for a newer version before reporting problems. (see http://www.XFree86.Org/FAQ) Operating System: Linux 2.4.13 i686 [ELF] Configured drivers: S3V: accelerated server for S3 graphics adaptors (Patchlevel 0) s3_ViRGE (using VT number 7) XF86Config: /etc/X11/XF86Config (**) stands for supplied, (--) stands for probed/default values (--) no ModulePath specified using default: /usr/X11R6/lib/modules dbe: Unknown error loading module Config Error: /etc/X11/XF86Config:48 SubSection "extmod" ^^^ Module section keyword expected Fatal server error: Child error writing to pipe (Broken pipe) In my XF86Config, extmod is loaded this way: Section "Module" Load "pex5" Load "dri" Load "record" Load "glx" Load "extmod" Load "dbe" Load "xie" Load "xtt" EndSection Oki
RE: chkconfig is to redhat as ___ is to debian?
On 06-Mar-2002 Michael Marziani wrote: > I want to: > > > NAME >chkconfig - updates and queries runlevel information for >system services > > DESCRIPTION >chkconfig provides a simple command-line tool for main- >taining the /etc/rc[0-6].d directory hierarchy by reliev- >ing system administrators of the task of directly manipu- >lating the numerous symbolic links in those directories. > > Ok. 1) Debian only installs a package if the item is expected to be used. So the usual use of chkconfig to disable unneeded daemons should not apply here. If you want to disable a daemon (it happens sometimes) and there is no way provided (many packages offer a do not run me option if there is demand) you just edit the init.d script or remove the rc?.d symlinks. 2) as others have said update-rc.d 3) ls the rc?.d directory to see what is started when. For the most part things are started in a certain order to play nicely with others. You may need to change this, but likely not. My router is a laptop so I had to move many of my daemons to start much later than pcmcia.
Re: Java SDK 1.4
Andrew Agno wrote: It works for me. In my applications, it's even noticeably faster. I believe that some others have had some problems, but you'll need to test it, I guess. I had it running; great. I had it for running Forte4j too. Oki
Postgresql upgrade 7.1 -> 7.2 issue
I'm having problems upgrading from postgresql 7.1 to 7.2. On attempting to start the postmaster I get: # /etc/init.d/postgresql start The database is in an older format that cannot be read by version 7.2 of PostgreSQL. The postinstallation script should attempt to upgrade the database automatically. If it fails, it must be done by hand. *** READ /usr/share/doc/postgresql/README.Debian.migration.gz FIRST! *** The version 7.2 postmaster cannot be started until this is done. Reading that document says I should run: postgresql-dump -t db.out -dcivlp $PGDATA/../data.save Which produces: Stopping and restarting the postmaster /usr/lib/postgresql/dumpall/7.1/postmaster -D /var/lib/postgres/data -p 5431 -o -d0 Dumping the database to db.out /usr/lib/postgresql/bin/pg_dumpall connected to template1... process_hba_record: invalid syntax in pg_hba.conf file Missing or erroneous pg_hba.conf file, see postmaster log for details psql: Missing or erroneous pg_hba.conf file, see postmaster log for details Finding the default encoding process_hba_record: invalid syntax in pg_hba.conf file Missing or erroneous pg_hba.conf file, see postmaster log for details psql: Missing or erroneous pg_hba.conf file, see postmaster log for details Usage: pg_encoding [options] encoding_name | encoding_number options: -bcheck if encoding is valid for backend Killing the postmaster Smart Shutdown request at Thu Mar 7 11:14:20 2002 This is the ASCII output of the dump for you to check: -- postgresql-dump on Thu Mar 7 11:14:20 EST 2002 from version 7.1 -- -- pg_dumpall (7.2) -- \connect template1 DELETE FROM pg_shadow WHERE usesysid <> (SELECT datdba FROM pg_database WHERE datname = 'template0'); On the basis of this dump, is it OK to delete the old database? [y/n] n Seeing as there is several gig of data in the old database, I'm no really happy with that dump. Any ideas? Which pg_hba.conf file is the postmaster trying to read? Please CC responses, I'm not currently subscribed. Andrew Clark 90East (Asia Pacific) Pty Ltd Canberra, Australia 02 6272 3700 (switch) 02 6272 3010 (facsimile) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.90East.com ** Notice: This e-mail may contain personal information as defined in the Privacy Act 1988, or confidential information. Please do not disclose personal information in this e-mail, other than that of the sender, to another party without the consent of the sender. If you are not the intended recipient, or believe that you have received this e-mail in error, please do not print, copy, retransmit, disseminate, or otherwise use the information. Also, please notify the sender that you have received this e-mail in error, and delete the copy you received. Thank you.
libc6 > 2.2.3
hello, can someone point me where I can find the package libc6_2.2.4-4.deb ? TIA -- Gerard
Re: The quest for rodent power
On Mon, Mar 04, 2002 at 07:03:14AM -0800, Harry Putnam wrote:
> Running woody (testing)
>
> I've been ignoring this issue and working on other things but I really
> miss having my little rodent in text mode.
>
> Its a logitec 3 button ps2, critter that works in X just fine.
>
> I can't remember how to tell with no doubt where the mouse is
> connected. At which device. I remember saying /dev/psaux during install
> but that was just a guess.
>
> Boot messages indicate gpm services are being started. But I have no
> functioning mouse in text mode.
>
> A grep of ps waux shows"
> ps waux|grep 'gpm' turns up nothing
>
> The devices directory itself shows
> ls -l /dev/ |grep 'mouse\|psaux\|gpm'
I had a sudden thought: perhaps it is time to experiment with the mouse
type for gpm (completely ignoring X for now).
You've established beyond any doubt that it works in X as a PS/2 mouse
- and hence the kernel, connection, physical mouse etc is OK. And that gpm
does *not* like to interpret the mouse as a vanilla ps/2.
The ps/2 code in gpm is probably not identical to the ps/2 code in
the X server. And even when gpm is told to repeat in "raw" mode it will
still try to interpret the incoming mouse events. I guess that it doesn't
understand them - hence your "Error in protocl" in the gpm debug you
posted earlier.
In other words: X and gpm may well have different interpretations of
"PS/2". (my guess/conclusion, not necessarily fact, but I think it makes
sense).
Try
# gpm -t help
to get a listing of mice that gpm understands.
In this list, these look like candidates for your logitec 3-button ps2:
autops2 # if you're lucky :-)
mman
logim
fups2
imps2 # only 'cause it was mentioned in your XF86Config-4 at some point
fuimps2 # same reason
(and any other mouse type that catches your eye in gpm's list)
So a few simple tests by running:
# gpm -D -m /dev/psaux -t {some gpm mouse type}
should reveal what mouse type does (not) work for gpm. If one of them
works, then you know what to put in /etc/gpm.conf. Tweaking the X config
afterwards should then be easy: replacing /dev/psaux with /dev/gpmdata.
Hope this helps.
--
Karl E. Jørgensen
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www.karl.jorgensen.com
Today's fortune:
One man's "magic" is another man's engineering. "Supernatural" is a null word.
-- Robert Heinlein
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Re: Install problems from a newbie
On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 05:15:46PM -0600, Carnes, Kevin wrote:
> OK, after hearing lots of hype about how Linux is the best thing since
> sliced bread, I'm putting the claims to the test and trying to install
> Debian on a new Intel box. I'm an old VAX/VMS system manager and have
> been playing with computers in various forms for 20 years. If Linux is
> so easy to install, I should be able to do it with a minimum of bother,
> right? NOT! So, this mailing list request is a test of Linux support.
> I'm assuming this is where you go when stuck.
It's a good option.
> install. After a line about purging TEX files, it began to give me
> error messages for the next hour and a half.
>
> hdc:cdrom_decode_status: status = 0X51 {DriveReady Seek Complete Error}
> hdc:cdrom_decode_status: error = 0X34
> hdc: ATAPI reset complete
> hdc: irq timeout: status = 0Xd0 {Busy}
> end_request: I/O error, dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 863016
These are low level hardware problems, and have little to do with the
installation programs.
Might be a bad CD, or some problem with the CD-drive.
If you have a good internet connection, you could try to install just
a minimal system, and download the rest from the internet. But your
NIC was not recognized. Hm.
What NIC do you have? Some people have tried with the wrong drivers,
which have you tried?
> Can anyone tell me what happened here and what (if anything) I should do
> about it? I can find no reference to this in the Debian install
> document.
That is because it is a hardware related problem.
--
Note that I use Debian version 3.0
Linux emac140 2.4.17 #1 s?n feb 10 20:21:22 CET 2002 i686 unknown
Hans Ekbrand
MAKEDEV doesn't know how to make "klog"
Hello. I've been trying to use msyslog, but there's one little problem: it will not log kernel messages (although it logs other messages), and I believe it's because I don't have a /dev/klog. When I try to MAKEDEV /dev/klog, it tells me it does not know about klogd: # cd /dev # MAKEDEV -v klog /sbin/MAKEDEV: don't know how to make device "klog" Is there something I'm missing? Thanks, J. --
question about /bin utils
While I was replacing my vi with vim, I noticed that there is no /bin/vi at all, it's in /usr/bin. I've never seen a distro without a /bin/vi; how do I edit my files when my /usr partition crashes? Just curious if anyone has some insight into this. I would rather think that I made a mistake than debian did something wrong. -Mike _ Michael D. Marziani Systems Administrator Keller Williams Realty International
smbmount problem?
I have this: mount -t smbfs -o username=rharris,rw,uid=rharris,gid=500,fmask=640,dmask=750 //fileserver.lsv.raindance.com/departments /wmnt/fileserver/departments When I run that I get this: INFO: Debug class all level = 2 (pid 24219 from pid 24219) can't determine netmask for 127. added interface ip=10.10.117.230 bcast=10.10.117.255 nmask=255.255.255.0 24219: session request to FILESERVER.LSV.RAIN failed (Called name not present) Password: 24219: session setup failed: ERRDOS - ERRnoaccess (Access denied.) SMB connection failed A coworker changes the uid and username, it works perfectly for him. I have domain administrator privledges on the fileserver. :wq! --- Robert L. Harris| Micros~1 : Senior System Engineer |For when quality, reliability at RnD Consulting | and security just aren't \_ that important! DISCLAIMER: These are MY OPINIONS ALONE. I speak for no-one else. FYI: perl -e 'print $i=pack(c5,(41*2),sqrt(7056),(unpack(c,H)-2),oct(115),10);'
Re: Several packages fail to install, exit status 10
On Fri, Feb 22, 2002 at 04:18:32PM -0600, Kent West wrote: > Several weeks ago I had a failure trying to uninstall gdm on a sid box. > Since then, I've been unable to install or uninstall [x|w|g]dm, and > several other packages have started failing on install. I've been doing > a dselect update/install just about every day, hoping that whatever's > broken will get fixed, but so far nothing, and I haven't found any > helpful information via dogpile or google. Anyone have a solution? > Thanks! > > > Here's an example of the error: > > . > . > . > > Removing xdm ... > dpkg: error processing xdm (--purge): > subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 10 > Errors were encountered while processing: > gdm > wdm > xdm Does dselect report reinst-required for [g|w|x]dm? If so, you have to use dpkg with option --force-reinstreq to remove the packages. See man dpkg. -- Jerome pgpyEIsnnnL2V.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: XFree86 4.1.x ATI Radeon support?
On Wednesday 06 March 2002 17:57, Scott Henson wrote: > On Wed, 2002-03-06 at 15:34, John Cichy wrote: > > On Wednesday 06 March 2002 15:19, Scott Henson wrote: > > 4.1 did say that it has full support for radeon (the reason I purchased > > the card), it identified the card on my system, and X ran, but, I had > > many (sometimes 4 times a day) lockups that the only thing I could do was > > hit the reset button, the machine was completely hosed, no connection > > from outside (http,telnet,ssh, etc) and to switch > > consoles did not work. > > > > I have seen a lot of good reports about 4.2, and I personally will wait > > for 4.2 to make it to 'testing' before trying to re-install my radeon. > > What version of the radeon is it? That is really wierd because my > radeon is rock solid. X never crashes unless I severly abuse it, and > even then a simple ctrl-alt-backspace will bring it back. Maybe you > just had a buggy version of X(meaning the debian package of it). I > would try it again because now X is quite stable because of the > closeness of the freeze. Its up to you, but I love my radeon and have > never had a problem with it. Well acctually that is not true. I am not > using the frame buffer in the kernel because X wouldnt start with it. I > just let X use the radeon directly. Maybe that was your problem. Well > Im not sure but I was also looking at the X documentation on my system. > It is all for 3.3. Is this a bug. Out of date documentation is bad and > I am really considering about filing a bug against xfree86-common. > Anyone know what severety it should be or even if I should file it? ATI All-In-Wonder 32meg (not VE) Actually, I was running Mandrake8.1, and I spent a lot of time on the xfree list, after about 3 weeks of [EMAIL PROTECTED] with it, I swaped the card out with an 8meg ATI and have not seen the problem anymore. I will probably try again soon, but the 3 weeks of agony (not to mention lost productivity) takes some time to get over ;-) John
RE: chkconfig is to redhat as ___ is to debian?
I want to: NAME chkconfig - updates and queries runlevel information for system services DESCRIPTION chkconfig provides a simple command-line tool for main- taining the /etc/rc[0-6].d directory hierarchy by reliev- ing system administrators of the task of directly manipu- lating the numerous symbolic links in those directories. _ Michael D. Marziani Systems Administrator Keller Williams Realty International -Original Message- From: Sean 'Shaleh' Perry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 4:35 PM To: Michael Marziani Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: chkconfig is to redhat as ___ is to debian? On 06-Mar-2002 Michael Marziani wrote: > I've poked around dselect and can't find chkconfig. Is this included > in some larger package of handy admin utils? If no chkconfig, is > there a package that does something similar? > chkconfig is a redhat ism. What are you trying to accomplish?
RE: VPN on Kernel 2.4.18
Thanks Jeff. Wow, I thought this was going to be an easy task. :( Surely there must be thousands of others that have done just this. |-| |-|Client(9x,2K)| | |-| | |DSL Modem | | | | | |-| | |-Internet| | |-| | | VPN | | |Public IP | |--|Nat || | |Firewall--|--|Workstations| | |--Debian 2.2 W2.4Kernel---| || | |--| 192.168.0.10-200 | NAT |192.168.0.1 | | | | | || | |---Windows NT 4.0 Server| |-|---PP2P Installed---| || 192.168.0.2 Need up to 6 VPN connections to the NT Server Is this possible. Or is there just a better way to go about this. They don't have any money for Cisco or Hard Firewall. At first I was going to use 2.2 Kernel because I read if you recompile the kernel and install ipfwd you can GRE multi connections across, but now I just read that 2.4 hasn't been configured to allow multi connects across, but the date of the article is old. Oh how confusing this is. Cheers -Dave -Original Message- From: Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 10:14 AM To: Debian User Subject: Re: VPN on Kernel 2.4.18 Dave Scott, 2002-Mar-06 02:03 -0800: >Question on Kernel 2.4.18 and Netfilter > >Is there any way to forward GRE packets through Netfilter to a specific >Server behind the firewall? > >Also, can you have multiple GRE connections through the firewall at any >given time? > >-Dave Dave, You ought to be able to forward based on the protocol number (47). I don't know about the multiple connections. I'm guessing here: iptables -A PREROUTING -i $INETIF -p 47 -j ACCEPT --to-destination 10.10.10.10 However, consider the security issues: - you should consider terminating the tunnel at the firewall, then letting the firewall handle the packets from there - GRE has no data encryption, so consider encryption prior to GRE encapsulation - if not encrypted, anyone can read the data in the packet - if the MTU and Fragmentation settings are not set properly, DOS attacks (whether intentional or inadvertant) are possible -- Jeff CoppockSystems Engineer Diggin' Debian Admin and User -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: new twist on shutting down and restricting ssh users
I'll answer everyone at once below. On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 04:11:44PM -0500, dman wrote: My original question : | I want to allow my dad to shut down the router/gateway. I want to do | this by creating a login name "halt" that simply shuts down. I did | this by making /sbin/halt the shell. As I understand it, only root is | allowed to halt a system, so I made halt owned by root:halt with | permissions 4754. This works, but I am interested in comments on the | pros/cons of this setup. In addition, I want to disallow loggin in as | 'halt' via ssh. How can I do that? Sean 'Shaleh' Perry : | I gave my wife sudo access for halt only. It is not that hard to | teach them to login, then type 'sudo halt'. That would work (I was also planning on giving my dad a normal shell account), but I want to keep it as simple as possible. | ssh uses pam, so you can limit users via the pam interface. At | least you should be able to anyways. That would be cool, if I learn how to work PAM. With my current, extremely limited, knowledge of pam I wonder if it has that control that is that fine-grained. I don't want to disable the login completely. That is a lesson for another day, though. nate , Dave Sherohman , Osamu Aoki : [paraphrasing] | does this system have console access? yes [paraphrasing] | just remap ctrl-alt-delete to shutdown DUH! Thanks for the reminder. Of course that's the simplest way to do it! I even did that for my workstation and the laptop at my previous job because I thought it was a good idea. nate : | [about ssh key-based logins] First I'd have to get key-based login to work. I tried, once, for the ssh at school, but I didn't succeed. I haven't yet spent more time tyring and RTFMing, but it is something I want to learn! | I personally do not let anyone in my family touch my | computers, its the unspoken law. Don't go near them. | i setup my ultra 1 so people can use it for stuff, but | my firewalls and real servers are off limits. | | can't imagine why you'd need to let someone shut down | a system but whatever :) I'm moving to Chicago for co-op, remember? This 486 is staying behind to manage the masquerading and firewall. I'm not going to be around, so I need to leave a mechanism for properly shutting down the system. As for my workstation, I'd like for everyone else to become comfortable using it so that I can sitck debian on the rest of the systems, but no one actually uses it. Dave Sherohman , Andrew Agno : | you can use AllowUsers or DenyUsers commands in /etc/sshd_config to | control which users are allowed to connect via ssh. Thanks! That's exactly what I was looking for. -D -- I tell you the truth, everyone who sins is a slave to sin. Now a slave has no permanent place in the family, but a son belongs to it forever. So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed. John 8:34-36
Install problems from a newbie
OK, after hearing lots of hype about how Linux is the best thing since
sliced bread, I'm putting the claims to the test and trying to install
Debian on a new Intel box. I'm an old VAX/VMS system manager and have
been playing with computers in various forms for 20 years. If Linux is
so easy to install, I should be able to do it with a minimum of bother,
right? NOT! So, this mailing list request is a test of Linux support.
I'm assuming this is where you go when stuck.
I'm trying to install the potato release of Debian. I purchased CD's:
three
regular binary CD's and a non-US CD. I booted from the CD and began the
installation. I didn't install the network card, because I didn't see
it listed and will have to mess with that later (a question for another
time). Things went more or less OK until I got to the APT configuration
part. I fed it all 4 CD's to scan, which it did, and then used the
Simple Package Selection- Task Installer to select several package
combinations. It asked for the first binary CD, which I inserted, and
it came back with errors on SSH and LIBSSH installation. It said I
could try it again. It never asked for another CD, but I remembered
something about SSH being on the non-US CD, so I stuck that in and tried
again. This time, it didn't initially give me an error but asked for
Lynx configuration and ssh configuration info, then proceeded with the
install. After a line about purging TEX files, it began to give me
error messages for the next hour and a half.
hdc:cdrom_decode_status: status = 0X51 {DriveReady Seek Complete Error}
hdc:cdrom_decode_status: error = 0X34
hdc: ATAPI reset complete
hdc: irq timeout: status = 0Xd0 {Busy}
end_request: I/O error, dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 863016
It stepped through a bunch of sectors before finishing, then gave me the
configuration error screen again. I tried the binary 1 CD again, but
the same ssh errors. I elected not to try to reinstall, and it then
finished the configuration without ever asking me for the 2nd and 3rd
binary CD's.
Can anyone tell me what happened here and what (if anything) I should do
about it? I can find no reference to this in the Debian install
document.
Thanks,
--
Kevin Carnes
Associate Research Professor
James R. Macdonald Lab
Kansas State University
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Ext3 filesystem and Woody
Charlie Grosvenor([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: > Hi > Is it possible to have the ext3 filesystem with woody and if so how do i > go about installing it with the ext3 filesystem? > Have you looked at /usr/share/doc/HOWTO/en-txt/extra/ext3-mini-HOWTO.gz ? or /usr/share/doc/HOWTO/en-txt/extra/ext3-usage-HOWTO.gz :-) HTH, YMMV, HAND :-) -- Rich companies buy Red Hat Linux and a costly service agreement. Smart companies install Debian Linux and just enjoy it. ___
Re: chkconfig is to redhat as ___ is to debian?
Michael Marziani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I've poked around dselect and can't find chkconfig. Is this included in > some larger package of handy admin utils? If no chkconfig, is there a > package that does something similar? update-rc.d is pretty much the equivalent. -- Alan Shutko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - In a variety of flavors! Courage is your greatest present need.
Re: chkconfig is to redhat as ___ is to debian?
* Michael Marziani ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [020306 14:33]: > I've poked around dselect and can't find chkconfig. Is this included in > some larger package of handy admin utils? If no chkconfig, is there a > package that does something similar? Not really. There's the update-rc.d utility which is used by scripts. You can read its manpage to read about configuring your runlevels by hand. The basic gist of it is: have at it! Debian doesn't make any guise of implied meanings behind runlevels 2-5; you can customize them to your heart's delight. (How? Using ln, rm, and mv!) good times, Vineet -- Currently seeking opportunities in the SF Bay Area Please see http://www.doorstop.net/resume/ pgpxgpduw2GYn.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: More cheese nibbler questions
Carel Fellinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 10:53:31AM -0800, Harry Putnam wrote: >> Setup: Stock woody install from testing >>Kernel 2.2.20 >> >> Comments: X is installed but not running for these tests >> Mouse works in X but not in console >> >> >> If I say: >> >> # /etc/init.d/gpm force-reload >> Stopping mouse interface server: gpm. >> Starting mouse interface server: gpm. >> >> at the command line then `ps waux|grep gpm ' >> should show some thing with gpm in it ...right? > > Yes, if all's well. But as I stated in an earlier posting, we still > don't know for sure that your /etc/init.d/gpm is correct. Any reason > you're not willing to share it's contents with us just to eliminate > the off change that it *is* mangled? Err no, but isn't that what is printing those messages above? I did look at it. Not an expert script writer but it looks pretty boiler plate.
Re: I fucked up apt-get
On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 11:39:52PM +0100, Rudy Gevaert wrote: > On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 08:28:41PM +0100, Rudy Gevaert wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I fucked up apt-get :( so badly I can't install or upgrade a thing. Is > > there a way to reconfigure everything so apt-get forgets about his past > > options. > > > > Also, when I do apt-get update, I see a the ftp.de.debian.org mirror > > passing by, but this isn't in my sources.list. How can this be? > > > > Thanks in advance, > > Problem fixed! That says a lot...
Re: chkconfig is to redhat as ___ is to debian?
* Sean 'Shaleh' Perry ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) spake thusly:
>
> On 06-Mar-2002 Michael Marziani wrote:
> > I've poked around dselect and can't find chkconfig. Is this included in
> > some larger package of handy admin utils? If no chkconfig, is there a
> > package that does something similar?
> >
>
> chkconfig is a redhat ism.
SGI might disagree.
Dima
--
Riding roughshod over some little used trifle like the English language is not a
big deal to an important technology innovator like Microsoft. They did just
that
by naming a major project dot-Net (".Net"). Before that, a period followed by
a
capital letter was used to mark a sentence boundary. --T. Gottfried, RISKS 21.91
Re: chkconfig is to redhat as ___ is to debian?
Michael Marziani wrote: > As I was recently told by a posting by Cameron Kerr: ~# update-rc.d usage: update-rc.d [-n] [-f] remove update-rc.d [-n] [-f] defaults [NN | sNN kNN] update-rc.d [-n] [-f] start|stop NN runlvl runlvl . ... -n: not really -f: force And as he stated, the "." is part of the name, yes. > I've poked around dselect and can't find chkconfig. Is this included in > some larger package of handy admin utils? If no chkconfig, is there a > package that does something similar? > > Thanks! > > -Mike > > _ > Michael D. Marziani > Systems Administrator > Keller Williams Realty International > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://www.eskimo.com/~xeno [EMAIL PROTECTED] Physically I'm at: 5101 N. 45th St., Tacoma, WA, 98407-3717, U.S.A.
Re: XFree86 4.1.x ATI Radeon support?
On Wed, 2002-03-06 at 15:34, John Cichy wrote: > On Wednesday 06 March 2002 15:19, Scott Henson wrote: > 4.1 did say that it has full support for radeon (the reason I purchased the > card), it identified the card on my system, and X ran, but, I had many > (sometimes 4 times a day) lockups that the only thing I could do was hit the > reset button, the machine was completely hosed, no connection from outside > (http,telnet,ssh, etc) and to switch consoles did not work. > > I have seen a lot of good reports about 4.2, and I personally will wait for > 4.2 to make it to 'testing' before trying to re-install my radeon. What version of the radeon is it? That is really wierd because my radeon is rock solid. X never crashes unless I severly abuse it, and even then a simple ctrl-alt-backspace will bring it back. Maybe you just had a buggy version of X(meaning the debian package of it). I would try it again because now X is quite stable because of the closeness of the freeze. Its up to you, but I love my radeon and have never had a problem with it. Well acctually that is not true. I am not using the frame buffer in the kernel because X wouldnt start with it. I just let X use the radeon directly. Maybe that was your problem. Well Im not sure but I was also looking at the X documentation on my system. It is all for 3.3. Is this a bug. Out of date documentation is bad and I am really considering about filing a bug against xfree86-common. Anyone know what severety it should be or even if I should file it? -- -Scott Henson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: I fucked up apt-get
On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 08:28:41PM +0100, Rudy Gevaert wrote: > Hello, > > I fucked up apt-get :( so badly I can't install or upgrade a thing. Is > there a way to reconfigure everything so apt-get forgets about his past > options. > > Also, when I do apt-get update, I see a the ftp.de.debian.org mirror > passing by, but this isn't in my sources.list. How can this be? > > Thanks in advance, Problem fixed! -- Rudy Gevaert - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.webworm.org - keyserverID=24DC49C6 - http://www.zeus.rug.ac.be Private mail with incorrect quoting behavior will remain unanswered Always do right- this will gratify some and astonish the rest. - Mark Twain (1835-1910)
Re: attached: error output for X
On Tue, Mar 05, 2002 at 09:17:19PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I've attached a file conatining the output I am getting from startx. > I don't understand it. Can anyone help? > There seems to be something wrong with your /etc/X11/XF86Config file. Can you post that one please? Regards, Joachim Fahnenmüller Lehrer für Mathematik und Physik Herder-Gymnasium Kattowitzer Straße 52 51065 Köln
Ick.. More fresh Crow
More fresh Crow to be eaten it seems: I've reported in several theads that I thought the section of install where you pick modules and drivers was inaccurate in its listing for my nic `3com 905'. I argued that it had the wrong driver listed adjacent to it. I was half scared to run base-conf all the way to that section for fear of scrubbing something so hadn't checked for sure. I imagine there is a text representation of that stuff some where too. Dman posted that one can look at it with modconf any time so finally I did that and took a close look. It is mildly confusing to browse thru but not really that bad. And the driver is listed exactly as it should be. I got confused over those dumb 3com names that are so similar. The user isn't really told this but drivers are on the left and cards on the right. But it is fairly easy to see what is what. The listing looks like this: 3c95x +3c59x/3x90x/3c575_cardbus series boomarang/C There's my card right in the middle. There may still be an argument to be made that the install routine should have just found my nic, but my claims of inaccuracy are unfounded. So, I'll have at Todays serving of crow.
Re: chkconfig is to redhat as ___ is to debian?
On 06-Mar-2002 Michael Marziani wrote: > I've poked around dselect and can't find chkconfig. Is this included in > some larger package of handy admin utils? If no chkconfig, is there a > package that does something similar? > chkconfig is a redhat ism. What are you trying to accomplish?
Re: Ext3 filesystem and Woody
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 06 March 2002 11:11 am, Craig Dickson wrote: > begin Mike Fedyk quotation: > > use the bf2.4 install disks. > > So there are now Woody install disks that support ext3? Nice. > > Craig That is disk # 3 of 8 for the woody Cd's. - -- Greg C. Madden Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjyGlmAACgkQaefA3q8KcpBEugCeMRVp9rBebjLnNcuuGDPEHJsJ ecEAoITlOM6v7Jm3+KVolHx91GuQtt7C =N9GO -END PGP SIGNATURE-
chkconfig is to redhat as ___ is to debian?
I've poked around dselect and can't find chkconfig. Is this included in some larger package of handy admin utils? If no chkconfig, is there a package that does something similar? Thanks! -Mike _ Michael D. Marziani Systems Administrator Keller Williams Realty International
Re: Ext3 filesystem and Woody
begin Osamu Aoki quotation: > No! You seem to have gone a lot of work to convert system by your self > but standard kernel-image is very impressive work too. Quite possibly, but at the time, I had no choice. Ext3 wasn't in the standard kernels when I converted my first system; we didn't even have a debian package of the ext3 patch. I'm glad to know it's easier now. Next time I install Debian from scratch, I'll try the new way. Craig pgpCjOyD2Irib.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Enough time wasted, moving on
Corrin Lakeland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I agree, and if Harry had criticised the CDs then I would have refuted that. > But, looking at Harry's problems, none of them were caused by the > installation CD which (by luck more than anything) appeared to work > perfectly. So, I don't think it is far to complain he used unofficial, > unreleased CDs. Looking back at it now that I've successfully done the install and moved on. I think the biggest single stumbling block was the failure to find the nic. And the confusing (possibly inaccurate) section where you pick nic drivers. As Corrin and others have pointed out, without a network things are much more difficult. Once someone steered me to the correct nic driver my CDs were fine to get the basic system. Then editing sources.list and installing woody from testing was almost a snap. :-). Problems that followed were minor, but again driver or hardware related. The gpm issue which seems to crop up quite a lot. Still haven't resolved that but it is less significant. Since it does work in X. But here again its something that other linuxs and BSDS have found without major difficulty. Both the mouse setup and the nic. Once a user gets his hands on apt-get and its friends they will soon see what debian is all about. And why some people swear by it. There is truly a vast array of tools here for managing the OS. But as is always the case with a large arsenal, it takes some learning. But back to the problems for a moment: Its fine to say `Debian is not aimed at the same crowd' or similar. That is a fine thing to do, but still things like gpm are so simple a part of other installs, it must mean something is different there. It has apparently been a problem for quite some time. Not earthshaking but there. A final note here. I see some posters are still reposting things said in this thread, maybe some of you missed my outright appology to the list: Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Please note too that since getting an install running I've documented and filed 2 official bug reports and a third semi-official one. These are not lifechanging issues but do reflect an attemp to pitch into the general pool here.
Re: your Yahoo listing
Jennifer Jenkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Your site will be indexed and listed within 5 days. Heh, when I first saw the subject I thought someone had set up a personal ad... get debian-user a date :-D cheers
Re: Star Office Installation
--- "Bannerman, Israel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > To all: > > I just downloaded Star Office and I am trying to > install the application. > > Before downloading the file I did: > > mkdir -m 0755 /usr/local/soffice > chown me /usr/local/soffice > > I then downloaded the application to the > /usr/local/soffice directory. > > I then did: > chmod 0755 so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-en-bin > chown me so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-en-bin > > Afterwards I tried running the > ./so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-en.bin but it came back > saying > > file not found > '/usr/local/soffice/so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-000.bin > file not found > '/usr/local/soffice/so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-001.bin > file not found > '/usr/local/soffice/so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-002.bin > file not found > '/usr/local/soffice/so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-003.bin > file not found > '/usr/local/soffice/so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-004.bin > file not found > '/usr/local/soffice/so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-005.bin > file not found > '/usr/local/soffice/so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-006.bin > file not found > '/usr/local/soffice/so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-007.bin > file not found > '/usr/local/soffice/so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-008.bin > > error: One or more files are missing! Please ensure > that all necessary > files are present. > > > > So I went back and downloaded each individual file. > The installation is still not working and I am still > getting the same > message. > > > > Please help. I am new to Linux/Debian and am in > much need for help. > > Thanks alot! > -Israel Hi this seems a strange way to install Star Office or perhaps just different to how I would do it. Star Office has it's own installer so there is no need to move the installation file to where you would like it installed. The installer will ask you where you would like it installed. There are 2 ways you can install Star Office. One is a net installation where you install it so all users on your system can use it in their own accounts. The other is a single user installation where you install it in your home account and you are the only user with access to it. I prefer the "net" installation and usually install it into /opt. To do this run the install file as root with "/net" (ignore the quotation marks but keep the slash) as a paramenter. This will install the base. Then from your normal user account run setup and your account will then have access to everything Star Office has to offer. Cheers Geoff http://movies.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Movies - Vote for your nominees in our online Oscars pool.
tv card colour problems
** I'm off list -- please CC: me :) Hi there, I having strange problems with the colours on my tv card. Half the time the colours are fine -- everything is great. The other half of the time the picture is made up of purples/green/blacks/whites -- the picture is still watchable but the colours are all wrong. This is on a pre-boot basis -- if the colours right, they will stay right until I reboot, when they might continue to be OK, or go back to being weird. I'm running a Hauppauge Primio WinTV card with the bttv patch from bytesex.org on 2.4.17. Debian Sid. The problem happens across all tv viewers/recorders. -- Thanks, -- -0) Hereward Cooper"Being Alone Draws Attention" Somerset, UK /\\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG: 1E1D0C80 zadok.ddts.net _\_v -- pgp90mMrxX8oB.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: new twist on shutting down and restricting ssh users
On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 04:11:44PM -0500, dman wrote:
>
> I want to allow my dad to shut down the router/gateway.
If I were you, I set /etc/inittab and make system shutoff by pressing
CTRL-ALT-DEL. s/-r/-h/
I am guessing he has CONSOLE access.
Your dad maybe younger and flexible about learning new thing than me
but why make him learn too much.
CTRL-ALT-DEL to auto power off and power swich to reboot :)
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Rebuilding broken raid mirror
Hi, I have searched for, but not found, any info about how to rebuild a broken raid 1 mirror. I'm using a Dell PowerEdge 4400 with a hardware raid, PERC 3/Di, running Potato, 2.4.18. I'd be very grateful for any info/pointers towards documentation or such for doing this. Thanks in advance, Pontus
Re: Ext3 filesystem and Woody
On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 12:10:40PM -0800, Craig Dickson wrote:
> begin Charlie Grosvenor quotation:
>
> > Is it possible to have the ext3 filesystem with woody and if so how do i
> > go about installing it with the ext3 filesystem?
>
> First, install Woody with ordinary ext2 partitions.
>
> Then upgrade to a recent 2.4 kernel (2.4.17 is probably best at the
> moment; I've had problems with 2.4.18, particularly its USB support).
> You will probably have to build your own kernel to have ext3fs support;
> I doubt it's included in the standard kernel-image packages.
No! You seem to have gone a lot of work to convert system by your self
but standard kernel-image is very impressive work too.
Standard kernel has ext3 module so just need to be activated. All woody
utilities are ext3 compatibleas well as far as I have experienced. I
included it in "Debian reference" below in kernel section.
Cheers !
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RE:new twist on shutting down and restricting ssh users
dman writes: > > I want to allow my dad to shut down the router/gateway. I want to do > this by creating a login name "halt" that simply shuts down. I did > this by making /sbin/halt the shell. As I understand it, only root is > allowed to halt a system, so I made halt owned by root:halt with > permissions 4754. This works, but I am interested in comments on the > pros/cons of this setup. In addition, I want to disallow loggin in as > 'halt' via ssh. How can I do that? Check out the sshd manpage, and look for the DenyUsers and DenyGroups entries in the config file. Andrew.
Re: new twist on shutting down and restricting ssh users
On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 04:11:44PM -0500, dman wrote: > > I want to allow my dad to shut down the router/gateway. I want to do > this by creating a login name "halt" that simply shuts down. I did > this by making /sbin/halt the shell. As I understand it, only root is > allowed to halt a system, so I made halt owned by root:halt with > permissions 4754. This works, but I am interested in comments on the > pros/cons of this setup. In addition, I want to disallow loggin in as > 'halt' via ssh. How can I do that? Since you say that you want to disallow ssh access, I assume your dad has physical access to the console, correct? Just have him go to a text console (Ctrl-Alt-F1) if the router is, for some reason, in X, then hit ctrl-alt-del. The default action in Debian is to reboot (which would actually work - just let it reboot, then power down before the OS loads), but you can change that by editing the lines in /etc/inittab which say: # What to do when CTRL-ALT-DEL is pressed. ca:12345:ctrlaltdel:/sbin/shutdown -t1 -a -r now and changing the -r (reboot) to -h (halt) and you don't need to create a funky user or mess with /sbin/halt's permissions at all. But, to answer the question you asked, you can use AllowUsers or DenyUsers commands in /etc/sshd_config to control which users are allowed to connect via ssh. -- When we reduce our own liberties to stop terrorism, the terrorists have already won. - reverius Innocence is no protection when governments go bad. - Tom Swiss
