Re: Chart drawing soft ?

[James D Strandboge]

On Fri, 2002-04-05 at 20:01, Daniel Toffetti wrote:
> Hi all !
> 
> I would like to know what are the tools available out there to make 
> some fancy network drawings. 

I like dia.  It is great with UML and I have used it with networking
diagrams.

Jamie Strandboge

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Re: wipe off hard disk?

[Alvin Oga]

hi ya fti

no...  if one wanted to ... you can always recover data from the disk
if you have the time and $$$ ... that you really wanna see whats on it
- get a sledge hammer to make "glass pieces" for the fun of it..
and than melt it back to molten glass .. than you are 99%
sure that data is not recoverable
( they already snooped your network before you broke the disks )

for ordinary folks... yes... the data is gone once its erased ...

lots of various ways for secure erasing...
http://www.linux-sec.net/Txt/erase.txt

something simple like:

while ( 1 ) {
dd if=/dev/random of=/dev/hdb count=4096
}
# let it run overnight...

c ya
alvin

On Fri, 5 Apr 2002, fti International wrote:

> As follow-up to my previous posted question.
> I have two moer questions for everyone.
> 
> 1.  Do the existing non-linux partition on hard disk affect the linux
>  partition during the installation?
> 
> 2.  Nomatter what the answer for 1 is,  is there a way to "wipe off"
> the hard disk?  I mena to make the hard disk as a new, never-used
> one?
> 
> Any input is appreciated. 
> 
> Cong Xing  
> 


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dpkg database repair

[Terry Hancock]

Hi,

Apt-get and dpkg work so well I hardly ever have to
think about how they work. Unfortunately, this means
I'm pretty clueless when something does go wrong.

I have two computers which apparently have damaged
dpkg systems -- the status or package databases seem
to be corrupted or destroyed.

For example, attempting to run apt-get update results
in this error message (after checking for packages
data from the Debian site):

Reading Package Lists... Error!
E: Could not open file /var/lib/dpkg/status - open (2 No such file or
directory)
E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.

(looks like I've made a blunder somewhere along the line!)

The other machine constantly sends email to the administrative
email address complaining that various packages aren't being
found in a database of some kind (I forget what the exact
message is). 

It seems like there ought to be a way to have dpkg do
a consistency check/repair of some kind (I though of 
reinstalling dpkg, but then do I need dpkg to install
dpkg?).  I'm sure there must be some facility for doing
this, but I haven't found anything by just doing searches.

Is there a standard way to fix a corrupt dpkg system?
The only thing I can think of at this point is to 
manually backup all the user data areas and reinstall
the whole system, but that's pretty painful, so I'd
really like to try something less destructive.

Thanks,
Terry

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Re: hardware recommendations for a linux-based PVR

[Grant Edwards]

On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 10:22:26PM -0500, Kurt Lieber wrote:

> I'm looking to build a near-silent, linux-based PVR. (TiVo-like device)
> 
> Because of my desire for silence, I'd like to use a low power CPU, such as a 
> VIA C3 or even a Transmeta Crusoe that will allow me to cool it passively.  
> This means I need a hardware encoder and decoder.

National Semiconductor has a highly integrated family of parts
(the "Geode" product line) which is includes parts intended for
set-top boxes.  The web pages on the Geode family includes
reference designs for set-top box applications. There are Geode
based SBCs available from various vendors.  Where I work we're
using a geode-based board from IPC in a thin client product.

Except for a flakey VGA console mode, they seem to work well.

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Re: Getting Handspring Pilot Setup

[Jerome Acks Jr]

On Sun, Mar 31, 2002 at 02:23:36AM -0500, james martinez wrote:
> Ok yet another problem with getting my Visor to sync.  had it working
> and then I had to change to kernel 2.4.18 to get the new Nvidia video
> card to work. But now my visor will not sync anymore. One thins when I
> compiled the new kernel it added /dev/usb which has ttyUSB* so now I
> have two sets of these. One was made using the Perl code below and are
> in /dev/ttyUSB*. How do I tell which set is being used. I can look at
> /var/log/kern.log and see the visor is detected connecting to the driver
> but it will not sync. Any ideas?
If you have pilot-link installed, press hotsync button, then run:

dlpsh /dev/ttyUSB1

  (c) Copyright 1996-2001, pilot-link team 
  Join the pilot-unix list to contribute.

  This is dlpsh from pilot-link version 0.9.5

  pilot-link 0.9.5 is covered under the GPL
  See the file COPYING for more details.

  Port: /dev/ttyUSB1

  Please press the HotSync button now...

Connected... Welcome to the DLP Shell
Type 'help' for additional information

dlpsh> user
username = "Jerome R. Acks, Jr."
userID = 6947 (26951)   viewerID =  (0)   PCid = 62a8bd10
(1655225616)
dlpsh> quit
Exiting.


> 
> On Sun, 2002-03-03 at 07:44, james martinez wrote:
> > Got it working with Evolution. Thanks for the piece of Perl that helped
> > a lot by fixing the biggest problem I had getting the entries under
> > /dev. Works great now thanks for the help.
> > 
> > On Sun, 2002-03-03 at 09:59, John S. J. Anderson wrote:
> > > james martinez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > 
> > > > Can anyone tell me where I can get it. Thanks for any help.
> > > 
> > > You need to set up the various USB devices properly. The Handspring
> > > Visor mini-HOWTO may be helpful; there's a copy at
> > > . 
> > > 
> > > I have had "set up Visor" on my TODO list for a long time, and your
> > > mail was a good motivator. 8^)= I followed the instructions in the
> > > mini-HOWTO and my Visor is now working. (Well, with jpilot. getting
> > > kpilot and gnome-pilot going is next.)
> > > 
> > > Some notes:
> > > 
> > > a) this piece of Perl will create the devices:
> > > perl -e 'foreach $i ( 0 .. 15 ) { `mknod /dev/ttyUSB$i c 188 $i` }'
> > > b) don't forget to 'chmod 0666 /dev/ttyUSB*' 
> > > c) I couldn't get 'coldsync' (from unstable) to work properly; it
> > >would either give errors or seg fault. jpilot did work, however, so
> > >if you have coldsync issues, you might want to give it a try.
> > > 
> > > Good luck,
> > > john.
> > > -- 
> > > I WILL FINISH WHAT I STA
> > > 
> > >   Bart Simpson on chalkboard in episode 8F05
> > 
> 
> 
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hardware recommendations for a linux-based PVR

[Kurt Lieber]

I'm looking to build a near-silent, linux-based PVR. (TiVo-like device)

Because of my desire for silence, I'd like to use a low power CPU, such as a 
VIA C3 or even a Transmeta Crusoe that will allow me to cool it passively.  
This means I need a hardware encoder and decoder.

That's where things get fuzzy -- I've done research and discovered there are 
capture cards, such as a Pinnacle WinTV.  Then, there are DVB-cards, which 
appear to be for a specific standard predominantly used in Europe.  And 
finally, there are MPEG2 and MJPEG cards.

I'm very confused as to the difference between all these, and which one is 
appropriate for what I"m trying to do.  Not to mention what company might 
make a hardware-based encoding/decoding device that will work with linux. 
(and doesn't cost several thousand dollars)

Because the video input is going to come from a digital cable box, I don't 
need a tuner on the card --- just something that has S-Video in/out.  Also, 
(obviously) the card needs to support linux.

Can anyone provide some clarification here?  

Thanks.

--kurt


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wipe off hard disk?

[fti International]

As follow-up to my previous posted question.
I have two moer questions for everyone.
 
1.  Do the existing non-linux partition on hard disk 
affect the linux
 partition during the 
installation?
 
2.  Nomatter what the answer for 1 is,  is there a 
way to "wipe off"
    the hard disk?  I mena to make 
the hard disk as a new, never-used
    one?
 
Any input is appreciated. 
 
Cong Xing  

printing off the internet

[Riggit510]

Can you help me,  it's been months sence I have been able to print off the Internet.
I can only print from word.

Can you Help?

2.4.19-pre-5 not working

[Michael C. Alonzo]

i dont know if this is debian-specific but it 
seems that i am the only one with this problem(i think).
i looked at lkml but it seems that they dont have any
problems with pre5. when i boot to pre5, it doesnt boot
with devfs=mount, but it boots with nomount. is this a devfs
problem? or debian? im running testing.


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Question concerning MTAs and Databases.

[Petro]

Does anybody know of an MTA, plugin, or package that uses a database
(Preferbly Mysql) for storage? 

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Re: Chart drawing soft ?

[tom poe]

Hi:  I like xfig.  at: http://www.xfig.org/

On Friday 05 April 2002 17:36, Grant Edwards wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 10:01:00PM -0300, Daniel Toffetti wrote:
> > I would like to know what are the tools available out there to make
> > some fancy network drawings.
>
> I like sketch:  sketch.sourceforge.net
>
> It doesn't come with pre-draw clip-art, though.


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Re: unsubscribe -all

[Greg Ray]

Yea I would say that switching to mac comment was a real good comeback
considering macs are pcs and they can run the linux kernal.
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> On Thu, Apr 04, 2002 at 08:47:41AM -0800, Shawn McMahon wrote:
> > begin  quoting what Dennis Doeve said on Thu, Apr 04, 2002 at 06:39:54PM
> > +0200:
> > >
> > No, thanks, I don't want to unsubscribe.
> > But I agree that you should.  While you're at it, you should probably
> > remove Debian, too.
> > In fact, sell your PC and buy a Mac.
>
> Um...
>
> You do know that modern Macs run Unix, right?
>
> WebTV.
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Re: unsubscribe -all

[Petro]

On Thu, Apr 04, 2002 at 08:47:41AM -0800, Shawn McMahon wrote:
> begin  quoting what Dennis Doeve said on Thu, Apr 04, 2002 at 06:39:54PM
> +0200:
> >  
> No, thanks, I don't want to unsubscribe.
> But I agree that you should.  While you're at it, you should probably
> remove Debian, too.
> In fact, sell your PC and buy a Mac.

Um...

You do know that modern Macs run Unix, right? 

WebTV. 

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Re: Chart drawing soft ?

[Grant Edwards]

On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 10:01:00PM -0300, Daniel Toffetti wrote:
> 
> I would like to know what are the tools available out there to make 
> some fancy network drawings.

I like sketch:  sketch.sourceforge.net

It doesn't come with pre-draw clip-art, though.

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SOLVED: X broken after sid update, Matrox driver error

[Paul Mackinney]

Simon Hepburn declaimed:
> Paul Mackinney wrote:
> 
> > After apt-get dist-updating to the latest version of sid last night
> > (approx 2002-04-03 23:00 PST), I can't start X-windows.
> 
> > Anyone else having problems? Should I report a bug?
> 
> Well, is this is a matrox bug or an X bug ? I would post to debian-x 
> initially, rather than file a bug report.
It's a matrox bug... sort of. After remembering that I have a brain, I
reinstalled the custom beta mga drivers I got from the Matrox website
and well (blush) all is OK. doh!

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Re: Chart drawing soft ?

[Steve Juranich]

Check out xfig.  It has some library junk you can get for it for just this 
kind of thing.

'apt-get install xfig'.

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Re: Debian boot without X?

[Jason Chambers]

Why not disable xdm from running by using rcconf, or removing the xdm 
package if you're not using it for a while.


However shutting down xdm using CTRL-R and then running startx does work 
on my system without any tampering...


Ken Sear wrote:

If you boot to the xdm login window, don't login but key and hold  ctrl
then key  r   (those two keys in sequnce)  you will go to the command line
login, and login.  My machine will not allow me to startx after that, and I
have to reboot. I havn't figured out how to get it to do that yet.  Maybe
someone on the list knows.  The Xresources file lists the keystrokes you can
do at the login window.


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Chart drawing soft ?

[Daniel Toffetti]

Hi all !

I would like to know what are the tools available out there to make 
some fancy network drawings. I don't need an engineery tool to document 
the inner details of a complex network, think of just something to make 
pretty drawings for a tutorial or the like. It should have a palette of 
network/computer-ish icons, such as PC, Server, Router, Hub, Firewall, 
Printer, etc.
I tried Kivio, but the only stencil it comes with is for flow charts, 
and the server of thekompany seems to be down.

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Re: confused: primary and extened partition

[Seneca Cunningham]

lilifan2 wrote:
> Almost all books and docs say that primary partitions can
> "contain" extended partitions.

And they can. My system has 4 primary and 4 extended partitions, with
the extended partitions contained in hd3.

> 1.   I don't think primary partitions
> can physically contain extended parttitions, b/c we can
> set up only one primary partition as 20mb and
> only one extended partition 30 mb
> which is larger than the primary one.   So let us do not say
> primary partitions "contain" extended ones,  let us say
> extended parttions are "associated" w/ primary ones.

The extended partitions _are_ contained in a primary partition, a larger
one that you don't usually see.

> 2.  Still, my question is:  how do know which extended partitions
> are associated to which primary ones?  e.g.
>
> hd1   20mbprimary
> hd2   34mbprimary
> hd5   234mb  extended
> hd6   100mb  extended
>
> Is hd5 associated to hd1 or hd2?   Or we are not supposed to know
this?
> The system will keep track of it?

hd5 looks like it is associated to hd3, which would contain hd5 && hd6.
Type "dmesg|grep hda" on the command line and see the partitions listed.
The extended partitions are the ones contained between the '<' && '>',
and are contained in the preceeding primary partition.

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Forcing broken essential packages to install

[FFF]

Hi,

I'm trying to finish my configuration and when setting is configuring
some essential packages locales and sendmail, it exits with error "tr
: command not found" and "sort:command not found" I've inspected those
files and they belong to textutils, which is apparently correctly
installed, the strange thing is if I go to /usr/bin both files appear
with a .dpkg-temp extension say tr.dpkg-tmp . How can I fix this and
force a reinstallation of textutils ? 

Regards,
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Re: this list or another

[Chris Jenks]

At 04:50 PM 4/5/02, Patrick Kirk wrote:



Which is a long way of saying that there are not any other debian-lists
that will meet your needs...


Didn't there used to be a digest version of this list? IIRC there used to be.
I don't think I've seen anything about it for a while though. If it is 
still there

than he could / should look into that.

Chris


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what happened to mysqld?

[Rick Pasotto]

I upgraded the testing mysql-server package today and now mysql won't
run. /usr/sbin/mysqld is listed in the md5sums but not in the list of
files. It is no longer on my system.  HELP!

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Re: Help I've deleted everything unde /var/cache/apt

[Paul 'Baloo' Johnson]

On Fri, 5 Apr 2002, Craig Dickson wrote:

> It's a better idea to only clear out packages that are old enough that
> you're unlikely to need them again. I like to keep the current version
> and one previous version in case a new version doesn't work well. The
> attached script maintains /var/cache/apt/archives for me; I run it after
> each daily Sid update.

Eh, I had a spare machine in the house, so I set up my own personal
Debian mirror for my household's use (we all love Debian
here...http://thesync.com/geeks/ground.html).

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Re: Samba as PDC

[Carlos Sousa]

On Fri, 05 Apr 2002 13:21:59 -0800
curtis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ...
> 1. Can the Samba server be configured to force users to periodically 
> change their passwords?

Don't think so.

Just a lng shot in the dark: if you're using shadow passwords on the
unix accounts in the Samba server, and you set them to expire
priodically, then the smbpasswd file will periodically get out of synch
with the system password file. I'm not sure about this and can't check
it now, but perhaps then Samba won't be able to authenticate the user,
and so force him/her to change the password (both of them).

HTH

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confused: primary and extened partition

[lilifan2]

Hello,
 
Almost all books and docs say that primary partitions 
can
"contain" extended partitions.    
 
1.   I don't think primary partitions
can physically contain extended parttitions, b/c we 
can
set up only one primary partition as 20mb 
and 
only one extended partition 30 mb
which is larger than the primary one.   So let us do 
not say
primary partitions "contain" extended ones,  let us say 

extended parttions are "associated" w/ primary 
ones.
 
2.  Still, my question is:  how do know which 
extended partitions
are associated to which primary ones?  e.g.
 
hd1   
20mb    
primary
hd2   
34mb    
primary
hd5   
234mb  extended
hd6   100mb  
extended
 
Is hd5 associated to hd1 or hd2?   Or we are not 
supposed to know this?
The system will keep track of it?  
 
Cong Xing

Re: this list or another

[Shawn McMahon]

begin  quoting what Patrick Kirk said on Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 10:50:13PM +0100:
> 
> Which is a long way of saying that there are not any other debian-lists
> that will meet your needs...

Which sounds like an itch to me.  He should start a list.

If other people want that kind of list, he'll get subscribers.  If they
don't, he'll not have wasted much time because it's not that hard to set
up a list.

I recommend Mailman, it seems to work well and isn't hard to set up.



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Re: ALSA problems

[Carlos Sousa]

On Fri, 5 Apr 2002 12:29:20 +0200
Alexander Koch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> I have tried to install kernel 2.5.7 and am trying to use
> ALSA here. I have a Creative Vibra 16C (SB compatible). Now
> ...
> way' is here? Should I install the alsa-base or stuff? Do I
> still need alsa-source or any such things?

Isn't that kernel version supposed to come with the Alsa drivers
already? Then I don't think you should install alsa-source. And it
should mean better integration / easier setup, but then, it's an
unstable kernel, you're probably pretty much on your own...

I can't really help you 'cause, although I'm using the Alsa drivers, I'm
not running that kernel version and as such I don't know what might have
changed in the alsa driver installation / configuration process. I'm
also not running devfs.

Perhaps you'd care to consider this ckecklist:

1) Do you have the Alsa portion of modules.conf set up right? (Do you
need to?)

2) In my case there was a little Alsa script I had to run, that created
a whole bunch of entries in /dev. Would that apply to you?

3) Can you run alsamixer (from package alsa-utils), and if so, did you
up the volumes and unmute the channels?

4) Can you see reasonable contents under /proc/asound? And under
/proc/asound/dev?

I wish you luck. Sorry I won't be able to help you further.

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Re: woody vs unstable

[Osamu Aoki]

On Sat, Apr 06, 2002 at 01:45:11AM +0200, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
> Florentin Ionescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > Can anybody please clarify for me - is "woody" identical with
> > "testing"  or "unstable" ?

To be precise:

 potato -> stable   (at this moment)
 woody  -> testing  (at this moment)
 sid-> unstable (always)

If woody get released as "stable", 
 woody  -> stable   (at that moment)
 ?  -> testing  (at that moment)
 sid-> unstable (always)

> > If woody is not identical with unstable can anybody please
> > paste to me the correct lines for "unstable" from sources.list ?
> 
> Change testing to unstable.

Yes.

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Re: What happened to anXious?

[Faheem Mitha]

On 5 Apr 2002, Steve Juranich wrote:

> What happened to anXious?  I can't find a package for it anywhere.
>
> Now that it's gone, is there another easy-to-use X configurator out there?
> For some reason, xf86config won't do the right thing.  I'm running sid with a
> 2.4 kernel and XFree86 4.1.  I have an ATI Radeon 7200, and radeon.o is in
> /usr/X11/lib/modules/dri/ (or whatever, I'm at work so I'm doing this from
> memory).  However, xf86config won't even let me choose ATI Radeon as one of
> the supported cards under XF864.1, even though I know that it is.
>
> Any help is greatly appreciated, even if it's a weblink or an RTFM reference.
> I've googled for this for a week and can't come up with anything useful.

I'm surprised you haven't. The new configurator is integrated into debconf
for the package xserver-xfree86. So you need to first get all the xserver
stuff ("apt-get install x-window-system" is probably the simplest). You
should be asked questions as part of the xserver-xfree86 setup, but if you
want to rerun it, of course you can do

dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86

I actually found that X configuration works pretty well with this, and
better than in potato. You might want to make sure you have all the
necessary information before you do this, including the right driver for
your card, the amount of memory it has, the preferred resolution (you'll
probably want to experiment here) and the horizontal and vertical
sync/refresh frequencies for your monitor. Note that when you get started
debconf will ask you whether you want to manage the X config file using
debconf. You will probably want to say yes, but note if you rerun debconf
on it then any manual changes you have made to the config file may be
overwritten.

 HTH, Faheem.


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Xemacs Problem: Key-binding

[Sebastian Canagaratna]

Hi:

  I am using woody with the lates xemacs21.

  When I edit html files, and try to complete  with C-c /
  to give the  I get the message:
  No such face: font-face-keyword-face.

  When I type M-x sgml-insert-end-tag it works erratically. Sometime
  it works , sometimes it does not. I do not have the problem with
  the other tags.

  There is also the following message when I open the file:

  (1) error/warning Error in 'post-command-hook" ( setting hook to nil)
  wrong-type-argument arrayp nil.

  How does one correct this? 

  Also, how do I bind some key to type  just as C-z p is bound to
  ?
  I also run xemacs (sid) on another machine. THat does not appear to
  have this problem.

  Thanks.

  Sebastian
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Re: woody vs unstable

[Joerg Jaspert]

Florentin Ionescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Can anybody please clarify for me - is "woody" identical with
> "testing"  or "unstable" ?

potato -> stable
woody  -> testing
sid-> unstable

> If woody is not identical with unstable can anybody please
> paste to me the correct lines for "unstable" from sources.list ?

Change testing to unstable.

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Re: debian on old notebook

[Shawn McMahon]

begin  quoting what Karsten M. Self said on Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 11:46:43AM 
-0800:
> 
>   - Thinkpad P-133 64 MiB 2GB:  networking is borked, Debian
> half-installed, no data.  Hardware's nice.  BIOS config is Legacy MS
> Windows only.

BIOS config stuff should work on a Legacy DR-OpenDOS partition.  Having
one of those will also let you make "suspend to disk" work, with some
caveats.  If that's a 760, email me off-list if you get stuck.  (Typing
this on the keyboard of my 760EL running Debian as we speak.)

> That said, a second-hand IBM Thinkpad could be a dream -- damned solid
> systems.

A-freakin'-men.  Preach on, brother.  I don't see how anybody gets any
work done with those damn touchpads.


P.S. "email me privately off list" offer open only to Karsten M. Self.
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Re: debian on old notebook

[Sean 'Shaleh' Perry]

 
> That is too much money for a very old laptop.  I just picked up a p100 with 
> 1.2GB HD and 40MB RAM.  This is terribly slow, but usable in light x duty. 
> You might consider searching around for a pentium or better for your $100.  
> Ebay is a good place to start if you don't have a good computer recycling 
> resaler near you.
> 

note his email address is a .cz domain.  I made the assumption that the cost in
that area was sensible.


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Re[2]: dhcpd.conf

[Alan Poulton]

Friday, April 05, 2002, 10:04:00 AM, Brian W. Carver wrote:

> # Here's where you set up your range of Dynamic IP Addresses. I set mine
> # for 10 because I don't honestly think I'll have more than 10 computers
> # hooked up. It is in this range that your Laptop will have an IP Address
> # of. You could certainly set it to a range of 100-255 if you want,
> # reserving the first 100 IPs for Static.
> subnet 192.168.0.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 {
>   range 192.168.0.1 192.168.0.10;
> }

The range listed there should be for dynamic IP addresses. If you want
192.168.0.2, .3, .4, etc for your permanently connected machines, then
change the range to "range 192.168.0.10 192.168.0.20;"  Don't put
192.168.0.1 in the range because that's your Router's IP address, and
don't assign it to any other computers on your network either.

> host debian.charterpipeline.com {
>   hardware ethernet 00:C0:F0:56:2E:E9;
>   fixed-address 192.168.0.1;
> }

If ^^ is the Linux MAC address, you can take that out. You don't need
dhcp to give its own machine an IP address since you set that on bootup
with the /etc/network/interfaces.

> Now they say:

> DNS Servers 24.205.1.62

> This 24.205.1.62 is supposed (I think) to only show up on the box
> directly connected to the ISP, not on the others. Any ideas on what
> setting messed that up, or whether that is even the problem?

The DNS server is correct. Your Windows computer needs to know what DNS
server to use so that when you type www.google.com it can translate that
to the dotted IP address. If you're not running a DNS server on your
Linux box, you definately need to route that through to 24.205.1.62.

> Unfortunately now though, I've taken a step backwards. I was running
> dselect and updating (apparently too much stuff) via ftp and I got a
> weird error saying I had no space left in /var/cache/apt/archives. I
> have a mostly empty 60GB hard drive

And, unfortunately, this is beyond my scope as well. I'm new to this
too.  My only guess here is try a "apt-get clean"

As far as I know, it shouldn't be a problem to install "too much"
through dselect, unless you're ignoring dependencies.

If anyone else can help here, please do! =]

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woody vs unstable

[Florentin Ionescu]

Can anybody please clarify for me - is "woody" identical with
"testing"  or "unstable" ?

If woody is not identical with unstable can anybody please
paste to me the correct lines for "unstable" from sources.list ?

Thank you,
Florentin.


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Re: debian on old notebook

[Jaye Inabnit ke6sls]

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On Friday 05 April 2002 10:49 am, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote:
> i486 at 66Mhz, 8MB RAM, 500MB HDD
>ooop, mistake, right prize is $100
> > Right now this notebook luckly run W95(really good usable), so I hope it
> > can run few consoles at good speed.
>
> just consoles and just text editing (not write code, compile, debug) you
> should be fine.

Mirek:

That is too much money for a very old laptop.  I just picked up a p100 with 
1.2GB HD and 40MB RAM.  This is terribly slow, but usable in light x duty. 
You might consider searching around for a pentium or better for your $100.  
Ebay is a good place to start if you don't have a good computer recycling 
resaler near you.

Good luck

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Re: xemacs on debian = horked

[Shyamal Prasad]

"David" == David Wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

David> Xemacs (xemacs21-21.4.6-7) on Debian appears to be
David> completely horked.  There are tons of bug reports going
David> back over 2-1/2 years, many without so much as an initial
David> reply from the maintainer. Many appear to cover very simple
David> but very annoying issues. What's going on? Is this package
David> orphaned? A Linux distrubtion without a working xemacs is
David> not a serious Linux distribution.

I've used XEmacs on potato/sid for at least 18 months now with minor
problems. It's not orphaned, and it was updated at least once this
year in woody.

The maintainer has always responded to any issues I bought up, he
seems very friendly, and seems to read debian-emacsen infrequently.

Yes, a Linux distro without a working xemacs would not be a serious
distro in my book, but that ain't Debian ;-)

Cheers!
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Re: xemacs + xml -> error on sid

[Shyamal Prasad]

"David" == David Wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

David> I am running the latest xemacs on sid
David> (xemacs21-21.4.6-7). Whenever I open a .xml or .htm file,
David> my screen splits, with the lower half going to an *SGML
David> LOG* buffer, which reports "External entity doc not
David> found". Then it says "(1) (error/warning) Error in
David> `post-command-hook' (setting hook to nil):
David> (wront-type-argument arrayp nil) when I move the
David> cursor. This is very annoying! I don't give a s**t about
David> any external entity and I want this crap to go away. What
David> can I do?


Installing sgml-data (and possibly anything else dselect recommends
with it) sould fix it. I reported this to debian-emacsen and
apparently the maintainer will fix it.

The problem is that PSGML is a different package for GNU Emacs, but is
bundled in XEmacs. However, Debian stores the DTD's in /usr/lib
somewhere, and *both* emacsen want the DTD's there, even the bundled
XEmacs PSGML. XEmacs should suggest/recommend sgml-data, since the
bundled PSGML in it points there.

Cheers!
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Re: Off topic - XML Book?

[Shyamal Prasad]

"infotechsys" == infotechsys  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

infotechsys> Hi, Can anyone recommend a good book to learn XML?  I
infotechsys> would like it to be neutral of any language.  Thanks.
infotechsys> Wayne

I can't recommend a specific book, but look online, for example at
http://xml.coverpages.org/ for ideas.

You might want to try work through some online texts and so on. I
personally learned enough XML reading W3C docs and online tutorials to
implement a basic XML parser on an embedded system. XML is not hard to
learn, using it effectively is a different story :-)

Cheers!
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gnome-gv / libscrollkeeper error with sid

[Klaus Rechert]

Hi all

anyone got this error ?

scrollkeeper-update: relocation error: /usr/lib/libscrollkeeper.so.0: undefined 
symbol: xmlLoadExtDtdDefaultValue

happens while install/upgrade/remove

thx

klaus


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Re: shell quoting woes

[jereme]

Hi,

[snips:]

Steve Juranich wrote:
> I don't think this is a quoting problem.  The problem is your hash mark.  
> Remember that's a comment character, so you'll need to escape it (put a \ in 
> front).
> 
> Try something like this:
> 
> nmblookup -R $(eval echo "$username\#03") -U $nbns

This worked, thank you very much.  I thought that this was the first
thing that I tried but I guess I must have overlooked it as I tried
many variations.


> BTW,
> 
> > $ nmblookup -R "jereme#03" -U merlin
> > 
> >And I get back:
> >querying jereme on 192.168.0.200
> >name_query failed to find name jereme#03
> 
> Is this what you expect? I've never used nmblookup, but it looks to me like 
> your lookup command is failing as well.


Whoops, I am never logged onto a windows machine, :) , I should have
been more careful in the example I chose to include, sorry for the
confusion.


This is now working well,  I have attached it for posterity.



Thanks again,
jereme

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Re: Debian boot without X?

[Ken Sear]

If you boot to the xdm login window, don't login but key and hold  ctrl
then key  r   (those two keys in sequnce)  you will go to the command line
login, and login.  My machine will not allow me to startx after that, and I
have to reboot. I havn't figured out how to get it to do that yet.  Maybe
someone on the list knows.  The Xresources file lists the keystrokes you can
do at the login window.


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Re: this list or another

[Patrick Kirk]

On Fri, 2002-04-05 at 20:11, adam wrote:
> Hi all,
[snip]
> Now, I'm not criticising this list (debian-user), but I find myself deleting
> messages from this list that I haven't even had time to read the subject of
> ! So I'm wondering if anyone knows of a debian-user/admin list that runs the
> same sort of policy.
> 
The problem is "why bother?" - a lot of the value of this list lies in
the vast array of expertise and opinions.  The wheat and chaff come in
one huge blizzard.

The downside to this is volume of messages.  I just unsubscribed from
Gentoo user which has 600 or so subscribers.  Thats a good size as
almost every topic has a lurker who knows that topic, posts only on that
topic and is usually right on the money.  Debian-user seems a lot
busier...every problem posted gets at least 2 and often 4 replies all of
which are spot on. And there seems a lot more users but I have no idea
how many subscribers there are.

Its my experience that if you want help, it comes within 60 minutes of
posting a plea for help.  If you want to help, just read posts with
subjects that interest you.  As a rule of thumb, don't read anything
over 48 hours old unless you really have time to spare. I delete them
because debian kindly archives them on the website.

Which is a long way of saying that there are not any other debian-lists
that will meet your needs...


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Re: re-post: gnome terminal woe

[Nathan E Norman]

On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 01:32:01PM -0700, dave mallery wrote:
> hi
> 
> there was a new gnome-terminal in this morning's 20mb of apt-get.
> however, it is still broken:
> 
> prompt>gnome-terminal
> gnome-terminal: relocation error: gnome-terminal: undefined symbol:
> zvt_term_set_meta_use_high_bit
> 
> that's all she wrote
> 
> dave
> 
> -- 
> Dave Mallery, K5EN  (r/h 7.2 krud; debian woody+ximian)
 ^^^

Here's your problem ... ximian links against libraries in stable.
woody is testing, not stable.  ximian have stated that they won't
support testing.

I you want testing, run the debian gnome packages.  If you want
ximian, run debian stable.

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Re: shell quoting woes

[Steve Juranich]

I don't think this is a quoting problem.  The problem is your hash mark.  
Remember that's a comment character, so you'll need to escape it (put a \ in 
front).

Try something like this:

nmblookup -R $(eval echo "$username\#03") -U $nbns 

I don't think it's necessary to use the '\" stuff.

Good luck.

BTW,

> $ nmblookup -R "jereme#03" -U merlin
> 
>And I get back:
>querying jereme on 192.168.0.200
>name_query failed to find name jereme#03

Is this what you expect? I've never used nmblookup, but it looks to me like 
your lookup command is failing as well.


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Re: Help I've deleted everything unde /var/cache/apt

[Craig Dickson]

begin  Steve Juranich  quotation:

> I'm pretty sure that apt-get (or maybe apt-cache) does this for you with the 
> 'autoclean' argument.

Not according to its man page, as at least two people have already
observed in this thread.

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shell quoting woes

[jereme]

Hi All,


   I am having trouble getting a script to produce a quoted string for
   interpretation by another command.

   I often have to start VNC sessions from my workstation to some
   user's Windows machine, since my users all roam between many sites
   and machine, I have taken to querying our NBNS servers, (samba
   nmbd) to find out from which machine they last registered a
   username record, (type #03"

   So if I want to find user jereme, I can do this:

   $ nmblookup -R "jereme#03" -U merlin

   And I get back:
   querying jereme on 192.168.0.200
   name_query failed to find name jereme#03
   
   I wanted to wrap this up in a shell function, (or script), I
   started with this on the command line:

   $  xvncviewer -bgr233  $(nmblookup -R "jereme#03" -U merlin | sed -e '1d' 
|awk '{print $1}')

   It does what I want, finds the username jereme, extracts the
   returned address and starts xvncviewer.

   When I try this in a script, I run in to trouble getting it to
   produce the string:   "jereme#03"  (with the quotes) for passing to
   nmblookup.  I either loose the quotes, or loose the last one ' " '.

   More than solving this specific trouble, I was hoping someone could
   point out what it is I am missing about string evaluation in the
   bash shell.

   I have attached the script I have presently, it is broken, this is
   what it produces:

   $  ~/.bin/vnc_find_user.sh 
   Find user: jereme
   querying "jereme on 192.168.0.200
   name_query failed to find name "jereme#03

   Thanks for the help, I am headed home to scour "Learning the Bash
   Shell" but I was hoping to get some expert advice.


Enjoy the weekend,
jereme

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Re: Samba as PDC

[Dimitri Maziuk]

* curtis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) spake thusly:
> Here's three question about configuring Samba as a PDC.
> 
> 1. Can the Samba server be configured to force users to periodically 
> change their passwords?

Not according to smbpasswd(5).

> 3. This question may be unrelated to Samba. We have a mixed environment: 
> Windows & Linux workstations. Getting back to question 1. Great, Windows 
> users are authenticated by the SAMBA server. Is there a way to have 
> Linux client authenticated by a Linux Server (best if it were the SAMBA 
> Server)?  The ideal situation being that one and the same server are 
> providing authentication for all users regardless of their OS.  Also, 
> that that server require periodic changes to user passwords.

Have a look at OpenLDAP.

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sbpcd cdrom driver

[fti International]

Hello All,
 
Where can i get a sbpcd cd-rom driver?   I'm trying 
Red Hat, it 
asks me for this driver during installation. 
-Cong

Samba as PDC

[curtis]

Here's three question about configuring Samba as a PDC.

1. Can the Samba server be configured to force users to periodically 
change their passwords?


2. I have put this question out before but no one provided an  
answer, but maybe this time. 
I remember once talking to MS about CALs for NT Servers. 
Their basic explanation was that, if any user needs to be authorized by 
a server to gain access to resources on a server, then said user must 
have a CAL. Well, my question is: if an NT server is no longer providing 
the authentication (as it is now being done by Samba), then perhaps said 
user doesn't need an MS CAL.


3. This question may be unrelated to Samba. We have a mixed environment: 
Windows & Linux workstations. Getting back to question 1. Great, Windows 
users are authenticated by the SAMBA server. Is there a way to have 
Linux client authenticated by a Linux Server (best if it were the SAMBA 
Server)?  The ideal situation being that one and the same server are 
providing authentication for all users regardless of their OS.  Also, 
that that server require periodic changes to user passwords.


I would appreciate any responses.

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Re: xemacs on debian = horked

[Dan Griswold]

I have found Xemacs to be rock solid on Debian. I've run it on Potato,
Woody, and Sid. When something has gone wrong, it's usually been
another package. And I strongly suspect that most of those bug reports
refer to old versions. Maybe this means there's a problem with the bug
reporting system (I'm not in a position to say), but not with Xemacs.

In short, go ahead and use Xemacs.

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re-post: gnome terminal woe

[dave mallery]

hi

there was a new gnome-terminal in this morning's 20mb of apt-get.
however, it is still broken:

prompt>gnome-terminal
gnome-terminal: relocation error: gnome-terminal: undefined symbol:
zvt_term_set_meta_use_high_bit

that's all she wrote

dave

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xemacs on debian = horked

[David Wright]

Xemacs (xemacs21-21.4.6-7) on Debian appears to be completely horked.
There are tons of bug reports going back over 2-1/2 years, many without so
much as an initial reply from the maintainer. Many appear to cover very
simple but very annoying issues. What's going on? Is this package
orphaned? A Linux distrubtion without a working xemacs is not a serious
Linux distribution.

I'd offer to help but there is no way I'm learing lisp. I just need a
decent multimode text editor that has both a nice GUI AND a text console
interface. Are there any alternatives out there?


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Re: debian on old notebook

[Patrick Kirk]

On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 07:04:52PM +0200, Mirek Dobsicek wrote:
>Hi all,
>
>I have few question. Most of time I'm at college and twice a months
>I go home for a weekend. I dont have computer at home, and sometimes
>I need to continue at my work (coding and writing articles in VIM).
>
>I'd like to buy some old notebook and install Debian on in.
>Right now I can buy i486 at 66Mhz, 8MB RAM, 500MB HDD
>for $10 US dolars.

OK.  Buy a Linux compliant PCMCIA network card.  You will grow old and die
if you try living with a parallel cable connection.

>
>Is it good idea to try install Debian on it? Is it possible with 8MB of RAM?
>

Yes.  In fact, you can do it comfortably on 4MB.  The only concern is
X Windows - I have a very good .twmrc if you want X.  It replicates
the win95 task bar so task switching is real easy.

Also, use aterm instead of xterm.  It has more functionality but uses
less resources...he difference is tiny on most amchines but on that
notebook you won't want to waste resources.

>I need it just for VIM writting, man pages displaying, and Lynx offline
>browsing.
>

If you use X, check out dillo for browsing...its a lot more
comfortable than lynx though less sophisticated.

>What could be the way to install Debian? I'm thinking that easist way
>is to connect notebook with my computer with parallel cable and
>install from internet.
>
> 

Install from floppies.  OK it takes ages but you are going to be in
front of the machine for ages installing in any case.  How hard is it
to keep feeding it floppies while sitting there installing?  

>Or
should I forget it and save $10?  > >

There's a useful tip on running apps on a powerful box but having the
display on another at http://hints.linuxfromscratch.org.

Anyway, what's $10 compared to being able to say that real men make
old notebooks last forever and nvidia cards are just for wusses :-()


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Re: xemacs + xml -> error on sid

[Henrik Enberg]

David Wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>> uninstall the psgml package.
>
> $ dpkg -s psgml
> Package: psgml
> Status: purge ok not-installed
> Priority: optional
> Section: text
>
> Thanks for trying, but that's not it.

It is.  There are no other packages for (X)Emacs that behave that way.
It may be part of the XEmacs distrib, so try their package manager.

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Re: Re[4]: FQDN hostname

[Alan Chandler]

On Friday 05 Apr 2002 7:11 pm, Alan Poulton wrote:
> Thursday, April 04, 2002, 10:43:10 PM, Alan Chandler wrote:
> > It seems to me it might be useful for you to take a step away from the
> > problem and realise three things.
> >
> > 1) Its not your computer but each interface that has an IP address
>
> That makes sense when I pause to think about it. =]
>
> As for the FQDN, I figured it out. The problem lay in /etc/dhcp/config
> where it asks for the hostname there. When I changed that to a FQDN,
> postfix installed without a hiccup.
>
> But now I run into the problem that when I send mail to root, (I
> believe) it's being sent to my ISP. The modem lights flash.
>
> If I want to keep my mail all local, should I be using a fudged
> hostname?


I think NOT.

What you need to do is read the docs for configuring your MTA (postfix in this 
case) and ensure that mail to the domain name that is being used is 
considered local by postfix and not transfered.  As I said in the previous 
post this is generally nothing to do with the various files you have been 
playing with to set this up but rather the postfix configuration files.

I use Exim now, and its been a long while since I used postfix, but I am sure 
you will be able to find out what domain name has been used by whatever is 
sending to root (or it may have no domain name in which case postfix is 
probably adding one).

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Re: xemacs + xml -> error on sid

[David Wright]

> uninstall the psgml package.

Ah, I see. psgml appears to be a seperate package for emacs, but included
in the xemacs package. Is there some one I can disable that mode for
xemacs?


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Re: Mutt and GPG

[David Roundy]

On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 02:27:28PM -0500, Matthew Daubenspeck wrote:
> I am trying to setup Mutt so that it automatically retrieves keys from a
> keyserver is it is not listed in my public key. So far, I have the
> following in my .muttrc:
> 
> set pgp_getkeys_command="gpg --recv-keys --keyserver wwwkeys.us.pgp.net
> %r > /dev/null 2>&1"
> 
> Am I missing something? I grabbed a few of the options from the net, so
> I'm not sure if this is right or not...

I have no gpg-related options in my .muttrc, but have a 'keyserver' line in
my .gnupg/options file, and it seems to work.  Presumably mutt is
configured by default to work right with gpg, assuming gpg is set up to use
the keyservers.
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Re: debian on old notebook

[Karsten M. Self]

on Fri, Apr 05, 2002, Mirek Dobsicek ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I have few question. Most of time I'm at college and twice a months
> I go home for a weekend. I dont have computer at home, and sometimes
> I need to continue at my work (coding and writing articles in VIM).
> 
> I'd like to buy some old notebook and install Debian on in.
> Right now I can buy i486 at 66Mhz, 8MB RAM, 500MB HDD
> for $10 US dolars.
> 
> Is it good idea to try install Debian on it? Is it possible with 8MB of RAM?

You've updated the price to US$100.  $10 would be a fair value for the
system.  $100 is wildly overpriced.  I've had systems like this given to
me, and they're barely worth the hassles they provide.

I'm currently playing with some older hardware and have Debian installed
on:

  - Thinkpad P-133 64 MiB 2GB:  networking is borked, Debian
half-installed, no data.  Hardware's nice.  BIOS config is Legacy MS
Windows only.

  - P-166 64 MiB 4GiB:  works well as an emergency graphics terminal at
the colo.  Tends to run unattended, which it won't do without
powering down after a time.

  - Hitachi 486 DX 66MHz 12 MiB 500 MiB:  staggers along.  It's cute,
and works reasonably well as a console-only system.  With 12 MiB
free RAM, it can't run an apt-get dist-upgrade without segfaulting.
I'd push for 16 MiB minimum, 32-64 MiB far preferred.  Note that old
laptop memory may be available, but it's not terribly cheap.  Runs
lid-down w/o hibernating.

For the price you're looking at, you should be able to get a PII laptop
system minimum.  Better might be to cobble together a desktop system --
for $100 you're looking at a PII/III 200 - 400 MHz system, 96-128 MiB
RAM, 6-10 GiB HD, working graphics, sound, network, and modem, and a
decent, if used, 15"-17" monitor.  Many companies are throwing things
like this out -- get creative.

For older notebooks/laptops, the main problem is nonstandard components
and configurations -- BIOS access (often only through Legacy MS Windows
utilities), memory, CPU, sometimes power ports and the like.  Newer
hardware, say the last couple of years, is rather more standard.

That said, a second-hand IBM Thinkpad could be a dream -- damned solid
systems.

Peace.

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Re: xemacs + xml -> error on sid

[David Wright]

> uninstall the psgml package.

$ dpkg -s psgml
Package: psgml
Status: purge ok not-installed
Priority: optional
Section: text

Thanks for trying, but that's not it.


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Re: xemacs + xml -> error on sid

[Henrik Enberg]

David Wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I am running the latest xemacs on sid (xemacs21-21.4.6-7). Whenever I open
> a .xml or .htm file, my screen splits, with the lower half going to an
> *SGML LOG* buffer, which reports "External entity doc not found". Then it
> says "(1) (error/warning) Error in `post-command-hook' (setting hook to
> nil): (wront-type-argument arrayp nil) when I move the cursor. This is
> very annoying! I don't give a s**t about any external entity and I want
> this crap to go away. What can I do?

uninstall the psgml package.  It will throw the "External entity doc not
found" when your files don't have a proper doctype at the top.  The
other error seems like a bug.  You may wish to report it to the psgml
maintainer. 

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Re: .bashrc goofiness.

[Jeffrey W. Baker]

On Fri, 2002-04-05 at 11:26, Steve Juranich wrote:
> When I log in to my user account, bash is not reading my .bashrc.  I've 
> checked
> the permissions and ownership.  It's all as it should be.  However, when I 
> log 
> in as root, the /root/.bashrc is getting evaluated.
> 
> Does anybody know what's going on?

See the manual page for bash under the section INVOCATION.  Your bashrc
should be evaluated if you invoke an interactive shell (login or xterm),
unless you pass the --norc or --rcfile arguments.

Perhaps bash is unable to determine if its input and output are attached
to a tty.  Do you have problems with /dev/pty or devfs?

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Re: .bashrc goofiness.

[Robert_L]

On Friday 05 April 02:26, Steve Juranich wrote:
> When I log in to my user account, bash is not reading my .bashrc.  I've
> checked the permissions and ownership.  It's all as it should be.  However,
> when I log in as root, the /root/.bashrc is getting evaluated.
>
> Does anybody know what's going on?
>
> Thanks.


Do you have this is ~/.bash_profile ?  :

# include .bashrc if it exists

if [ -f ~/.bashrc ]; then
source ~/.bashrc
fi

Does it work if you invoke it as a login shell ?

all the best,
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Re: CIPE or other options

[curtis]

In addition to CIPE as an option, what do people know and think about 
S/WAN?



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Re: SOLVED IT! Permissions and scsi cdrom?

[dave mallery]

On Fri, 5 Apr 2002, Cheryl Homiak wrote:

> I found the answer!
> Sg0 sg1, etc. for generic scsi, which get used somehow but aren't actually
> linked to scd0 and scd1 or /cdrom etc., has permissions that don't allow you 
> to
> access them as a user. since sg0 and sg1 etc. don't belong to the cdrom group
> either, this doesn't help any. I changed my permissions for the relevant sg
> drives to 766 (actually, I think 666 would have been ok) and now abcde and
> cdparanoia work fine for me as a user.
> 
you got it!

in my case, the device is sg3... chmodded it to 666 and made sure to 
change the generic scsi device name in grip: config:rip.

thanks 

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Mutt and GPG

[Matthew Daubenspeck]

I am trying to setup Mutt so that it automatically retrieves keys from a 
keyserver is it is not listed in my public key. So far, I have the following in 
my .muttrc:

set pgp_getkeys_command="gpg --recv-keys --keyserver wwwkeys.us.pgp.net %r > 
/dev/null 2>&1"

Am I missing something? I grabbed a few of the options from the net, so I'm not 
sure if this is right or not...



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.bashrc goofiness.

[Steve Juranich]

When I log in to my user account, bash is not reading my .bashrc.  I've checked
the permissions and ownership.  It's all as it should be.  However, when I log 
in as root, the /root/.bashrc is getting evaluated.

Does anybody know what's going on?

Thanks.

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RE: this list or another

[adam]

I think that those who "can't even pay attention to the unsubscribe
instructions at the end of each email" are generally those who subscribe and
want to leave as soon as they realise what they've subscribed to (we have
them on the HPUX list too), but the majority of these people don't ever post
question (or maybe one)/answers. So, no I don't think that this (minority)
will listen to that.

-Message d'origine-
De : Shawn McMahon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Envoye : vendredi 5 avril 2002 21:15
A : debian-user@lists.debian.org
Objet : Re: this list or another


begin  quoting what adam said on Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 09:11:25PM +0200:
>
> I'm a member of an hpux sysadmin mailing list - what I really like about
it
> is that there is a strict policy : "---> Please post QUESTIONS and
SUMMARIES
> only!! <---" (automatically added to the end of each post). It works
really
> well - 95% of summaries posted
( http://www.dutchworks.nl/htbin/hpsysadmin )
> for anyone interested.

People can't even pay attention to the unsubscribe instructions at the
end of each email, and you think they'll listen to that?




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xemacs + xml -> error on sid

[David Wright]

I am running the latest xemacs on sid (xemacs21-21.4.6-7). Whenever I open
a .xml or .htm file, my screen splits, with the lower half going to an
*SGML LOG* buffer, which reports "External entity doc not found". Then it
says "(1) (error/warning) Error in `post-command-hook' (setting hook to
nil): (wront-type-argument arrayp nil) when I move the cursor. This is
very annoying! I don't give a s**t about any external entity and I want
this crap to go away. What can I do?


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Re: this list or another

[Shawn McMahon]

begin  quoting what adam said on Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 09:11:25PM +0200:
> 
> I'm a member of an hpux sysadmin mailing list - what I really like about it
> is that there is a strict policy : "---> Please post QUESTIONS and SUMMARIES
> only!! <---" (automatically added to the end of each post). It works really
> well - 95% of summaries posted ( http://www.dutchworks.nl/htbin/hpsysadmin )
> for anyone interested.

People can't even pay attention to the unsubscribe instructions at the
end of each email, and you think they'll listen to that?



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this list or another

[adam]

Hi all,

I'm a member of an hpux sysadmin mailing list - what I really like about it
is that there is a strict policy : "---> Please post QUESTIONS and SUMMARIES
only!! <---" (automatically added to the end of each post). It works really
well - 95% of summaries posted ( http://www.dutchworks.nl/htbin/hpsysadmin )
for anyone interested.

Now, I'm not criticising this list (debian-user), but I find myself deleting
messages from this list that I haven't even had time to read the subject of
! So I'm wondering if anyone knows of a debian-user/admin list that runs the
same sort of policy.

Thanks in advance for any hints (I really enjoy this list but just don't
have the time . . .)

Adam


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Re: What happened to anXious?

[nate]

> What happened to anXious?  I can't find a package for it anywhere.
>
> Now that it's gone, is there another easy-to-use X configurator out
> there?   For some reason, xf86config won't do the right thing.  I'm
> running sid with a  2.4 kernel and XFree86 4.1.  I have an ATI Radeon
> 7200, and radeon.o is in /usr/X11/lib/modules/dri/ (or whatever, I'm at
> work so I'm doing this from  memory).  However, xf86config won't even let
> me choose ATI Radeon as one of  the supported cards under XF864.1, even
> though I know that it is.

it was phased out a long time ago(don't remember why). I would
reccomend trying to do X -configure and then modify the generated
config file to suit your needs. this command attempts to auto detect
all your devices that are used for X (keyboard, mouse, video, fonts etc)
and write out a usable config file. I have used it on Nvidia Geforce cards,
and Matrox G400 sofar .. I am using kernel 2.2.x

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Re: dhcpd.conf

[Shawn McMahon]

begin  quoting what Brian W. Carver said on Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 10:04:00AM 
-0800:
> 
> Here's my dhcpd.conf.  I wanted my IP addresses to start with 192.168.0.1 and 
> go
> up from there. I wonder if that is part of the problem (described below)?

Wait a minute; your server is 192.168.0.1, and you want to give that
address out?

That's a bit like trying to park both your cars in the same parking
spot, don't you think?



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Re: Help I've deleted everything unde /var/cache/apt

[Steve Juranich]

I'm pretty sure that apt-get (or maybe apt-cache) does this for you with the 
'autoclean' argument.

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Re: debian on old notebook

[Sean 'Shaleh' Perry]

> 
> Right now this notebook luckly run W95(really good usable), so I hope it 
> can run few consoles at good speed.
> 

just consoles and just text editing (not write code, compile, debug) you should
be fine.


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What happened to anXious?

[Steve Juranich]

What happened to anXious?  I can't find a package for it anywhere.

Now that it's gone, is there another easy-to-use X configurator out there?  
For some reason, xf86config won't do the right thing.  I'm running sid with a 
2.4 kernel and XFree86 4.1.  I have an ATI Radeon 7200, and radeon.o is in
/usr/X11/lib/modules/dri/ (or whatever, I'm at work so I'm doing this from 
memory).  However, xf86config won't even let me choose ATI Radeon as one of 
the supported cards under XF864.1, even though I know that it is.

Any help is greatly appreciated, even if it's a weblink or an RTFM reference.  
I've googled for this for a week and can't come up with anything useful.

Many thanks.

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Re: USB Mass Storage in 2.4.18-686

[Craig Dickson]

begin  Thomas Shemanske  quotation:

> I use this sandisk reader on 2.4.18 without a problem, but it is not a 
> stock kernel.

I build my own kernels too, but I couldn't get the SDDR-31 to work on
2.4.18 at all, although with essentially the same kernel configuration,
it works beautifully on either 2.4.17 or the 2.4.19-pre series (with or
without -ac).

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Re: Help I've deleted everything unde /var/cache/apt

[Colin Watson]

On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 05:39:36PM +0100, Pat Colbeck wrote:
> I diodn't intend to delete the thing in the first place ! I was
> playing with apt-proxy and got interupted by someone and did an rm -Rf
> in the wrong console.
> 
> Never mind I know someone who did that in the root directory of the
> main Dec Alpha for a reasonably large company.

/var/cache, of course, is deletable by its very nature. I think it's a
bug in apt that it doesn't automatically recreate
/var/cache/apt/archives and /var/cache/apt/archives/partial for you.

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Re: Help I've deleted everything unde /var/cache/apt

[Craig Dickson]

begin  Paul 'Baloo' Johnson  quotation:

> In the future, if you're just trying to clean out the package cache that
> apt keeps, try apt-get clean.

It's a better idea to only clear out packages that are old enough that
you're unlikely to need them again. I like to keep the current version
and one previous version in case a new version doesn't work well. The
attached script maintains /var/cache/apt/archives for me; I run it after
each daily Sid update.

Craig
#!/bin/bash
#
# debweed
#
# Copyright 2001, 2002 Craig Dickson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
#
# This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify it under
# the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by the Free Software
# Foundation; either version 2 of the License, or (at your option) any later
# version.
#
# This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful, but WITHOUT
# ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS
# FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. See the GNU General Public License for more
# details.
#
# You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License along with
# this program; if not, write to the Free Software Foundation, Inc., 59 Temple
# Place, Suite 330, Boston, MA 02111-1307 USA
#
## Usage:
##
##debweed [option] ...
##
## where 'option' is any of:
##
##-h : help (display this text and exit)
##-q : quiet
##-t : testing (show what would be done, but don't do it)
##-v : verbose
##
## debweed examines the contents of /var/cache/apt/archives and removes .deb
## package files that are no longer needed. A .deb is considered no longer
## needed if either there are two newer versions of the same package, or if
## no version of the package is currently installed on the system.
##
## Note that 'newer', to debweed, is measured by the modification date of the
## .deb files, not the version numbers encoded in the package's filename.
## Usually, these will agree.

verbose=0
keepcnt=2
testing=0
quiet=0

for arg in $*; do
if [ "$arg" = "-v" ]; then
verbose=1
quiet=0
elif [ "$arg" = "-q" ]; then
quiet=1
verbose=0
elif [ "$arg" = "-t" ]; then
testing=1
elif [ "$arg" = "-h" ]; then
grep "^##" $0 | cut -c 4-
exit 0
fi
done

cd /var/cache/apt/archives

# Get list of all .deb files in archives.

if [ $quiet -eq 0 ]; then
echo "Generating list of debs..."
fi

debs=$(ls -dtr *.deb)

# Filter list to generate a list of unique package names.

if [ $quiet -eq 0 ]; then
echo "Generating list of packages..."
fi

pkgs=$(echo "$debs" | sed -e 's/^\([^_]*\)_.*$/\1/' | sort | uniq)

# Get a list of installed packages.

needed=$(COLUMNS=255 dpkg -l | cut -d ' ' -f 3 | tail +6)

# For each package represented in the archives, determine which files
# to remove.

if [ $quiet -eq 0 ]; then
echo "Checking for old files to remove..."
fi

for pkg in $pkgs; do
installed=$(echo "$needed" | grep -c ^${pkg}\$)
vers=$(echo "$debs" | grep ^${pkg}_)

if [ $installed -eq 0 ]; then

# The package is not installed, so remove all versions.

if [ $quiet -eq 0 ]; then
if [ $testing -eq 0 -o $verbose -ne 0 ]; then
echo "$pkg not installed; all versions will be removed"
fi

for deb in $vers; do
echo "Removing $deb"
done
fi

if [ $testing -eq 0 ]; then
rm $vers
fi
else

# The package is installed, so keep the most recent versions.

cnt=$(echo "$vers" | wc -l)

if [ $cnt -gt $keepcnt ]; then
dcnt=$(dc -e "$cnt $keepcnt - p")
ddebs=$(echo "$vers" | head -n $dcnt)

if [ $quiet -eq 0 ]; then
if [ $testing -ne 0 -o $verbose -ne 0 ]; then
echo "We have:"
echo "$vers"
fi

for deb in $ddebs; do
echo "Removing $deb"
done
fi

if [ $testing -eq 0 ]; then
rm $ddebs
fi
elif [ $verbose -ne 0 ]; then
echo We have only $cnt of $pkg:
echo "$vers"
fi
fi
done
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Re: multimedia keyboard

[Erik Steffl]

Patrik Modesto wrote:
> 
> On Fri, Mar 29, 2002 at 03:48:50PM +0100, Mirek Dobsicek wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> >  I'd like to ask if is it good idea to buy a multimedia keyboard?
> > Can the extra keys be used in X as they are in windoze? (eg. slide
> > volume in xmms ... etc.)
> 
> I have some Logitech multimedia keyboard and works well with xmms.
> 1) find the keycodes for the new keys
> 2) make your home xmodmap file (mine is bellow)
> 3) xmodmap the file
> 4) bind the new keys. I use sawfish, but it should works with others WM

  with X 4.x you probably don't even need xmodmap, just use the
following settings in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Logitech Cordless iTouch"
Driver  "keyboard"
Option  "CoreKeyboard"
Option  "XkbRules"  "xfree86"
# erik: default commented out: Option   "XkbModel" 
"pc104"
Option  "XkbModel"  "logicordless"
Option  "XkbLayout" "us"
EndSection

  depending on exact version of logitech keyboard you might need
different XkbModel (or you might still need xmodmap), /etc/X11/xkb files
for more info (it looks like rules/xfree86 is the most interesting one,
also check symbols/inet)

erik


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Re: amazon search with konqueror shortcuts

[Rob Weir]

On Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 04:28:48PM +0200, Joerg Johannes wrote:
> Hi list
> 
> In opera, there is a search field, which loads amazon.com (or .de for me) 
> with a search for the given words.
> I know that in konqueror in the "enhanced browsing" options, one can define 
> such shortcuts. What I would like to do is a "amazon:search-item" in the 
> address field, so that konqueror loads amazon.de with a search for 
> search-item.
> Anyone knows how to do that?

I think you just need to add it in the Konq preferences window.  I
think the part you want might even be called "Enhanced Browsing".

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Re: mail client and maildir

[Rob Weir]

On Tue, Apr 02, 2002 at 09:24:21PM -0800, Jeff wrote:
> Is that any mail client that supports maildirs, other than Mutt
> of course?

I seem to remember that KMail uses a Maildir-ish format...I switched
to mutt a while back tho, so I'm not sure.

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Re: alternative to tarballs

[Rob Weir]

On Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 07:59:31AM -0800, Brian Nelson wrote:
> 2. Install packages in /usr/local using 'make install' and then use
>equivs to let the packaging system know you've installed a package
>manually.

If you're doing this, I highly recommend using GNU Stow (packaged for
debian, of course).  It installs a program into
/usr/local/stow/program-name/, then symlinks the files into the
/usr/local hierarchy.  Then when you decide to delete/upgrade the
software, it's all in a single place.

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Re: PS/2 mouse erratic in X and more

[Rob Weir]

On Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 08:51:15PM +0200, lasse wrote:
> simular problem..
> 
> My problem, is that when i move the mouse fast, it klicks, and it's not me
> klicking.
> this happends on both my testing and sid. The mouse dont act like this in
> FreeBSD.
> 
> -snip-XF86-
> Section "InputDevice"
> Identifier  "Generic Keyboard"
> Driver  "keyboard"
> Option  "CoreKeyboard"
> Option  "XkbRules"  "xfree86"
> Option  "XkbModel"  "pc104"
> Option  "XkbLayout" "se"
> Option  "XkbVariant""se-latin1"
> EndSection
> 
> Section "InputDevice"
> Identifier  "Configured Mouse"
> Driver  "mouse"
> Option  "CorePointer"
> Option  "Device""/dev/psaux"
> Option  "Protocol"  "imps/2"
> Option  "Emulate3Buttons"   "true"
> Option  "ZAxisMapping"  "4 5"
> EndSection
> 
> The mouse is a logitech cordles wheel mouse
> kernel 2.4.18

OT, but how many buttons does your mouse have?  If your scroll wheel
counts as a middle button, you can remove the Emulate3Buttons option
and use it as your thirs button.

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Re: Xemacs error message

[Rob Weir]

On Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 12:32:01AM -0800, Sam wrote:
> I use Xemacs version 21.4. Everytime I start it, I get the message
> "No /etc/mailname. Reverting to default..."
> Why is this and how can I fix it?
> Thanx,
> Sam

I think /etc/mailname is generated by your MTA.  If you're running
exim, then eximconfig should re-create, otherwise have a look at the
docs for whichever one you're running.

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Re: Debian on PS2 with 2.5" IDE raid??

[Rob Weir]

On Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 11:16:25PM +0800, Patrick Hsieh wrote:
> I'd like to install Debian on Sony PS2 with 2 2.5" IDE disks as software
> raid disk array. Is it possible? Is there anyone having experience?

[Disclaimer: I've never tried this, nor thought about it before, but
here goes...]

I'm sure it's possible, but I doubt that any of the debian boot disks
support this.  You might have to make your own, it's not too hard.
IIRC, you just need to compile up a kernel image with whatever
options/patches/whatever that you need, then copy the bzImage to a
FAT-formatted floppy.  Then, you need to use the syslinux command to
make the disk bootable.

If you can get the machine to boot using this disk, then you should be
able to install debian using it.

Actually, it might be more complicated than that...doesn't software
RAID require some userland intervention?  Hmmm...you might be better
off attaching another hard drive to the system, then using debootstrap
to setup the debian system...

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Re: is 2.2r6 iso available?

[Rob Weir]

On Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 06:14:10PM +0800, Patrick Hsieh wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> Is there official 2.2r6 iso available?
> 
> Where to download?

http://cdimages.debian.org would be the place to look.

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Re: debian on old notebook

[Mirek Dobsicek]

>>Or should I forget it and save $10?

ooop, mistake, right prize is $100



You will find the machine extremely slow, compiling anything will take forever.
 Kernel compiles in about a day on one of those.  Sure you won't be doing it,
but I just wanted to show you the whole situation.  If you can spend enough to
get a low end pentium you would be a lot happier.



Right now this notebook luckly run W95(really good usable), so I hope it 
can run few consoles at good speed.



Mirek



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Re: Debian boot without X?

[Rob Weir]

On Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 05:07:16PM +0200, Mathias Vingaard wrote:
> Hello.
> 
> I have just installed my debian. While I experiment with different 
> configurations I would like to boot up without X. Is there a text file I can 
> edit in order to disable automatic start up of X? 

One of the most useful programs I have installed is rcconf (apt-get
install rcconf).  It gives you a list of installed daemons, and lets
you simply check or uncheck the box beside them to enable/disable
their init scripts.

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Re: Optimisations for gcc

[Rob Weir]

On Tue, Apr 02, 2002 at 07:21:19PM +0100, Patrick Kirk wrote:
> Thanks to all.  Putting them in /etc/profile was the easiest way to make sure 
> it worked for everyone on the system.
> 
> 

One thing to remember is that some things don't like being optimised;
glibc and gcc come to mind.  Apparently optimisations will cause
'problems'.  Can't say I've ever tried tho, but I awlays seem this
advice floating around.

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Re: Please Help! Can't install packages!

[Rob Weir]

On Tue, Apr 02, 2002 at 12:44:07PM -0500, Anthony R. J. Ball wrote:
> 
>   When I try to install packages I get the messages below.
> If I reboot I can install packages for about 10 minutes till
> the problem rears its ugly head once again. It seems to be a 
> problem in the default CHLD handler, but I don't know for sure.
> 
>   Can anyone offer advice?
> 
> 
> www:/home/ant# apt-get install dnsmasq
> Reading Package Lists... Done
> Building Dependency Tree... Done
> The following NEW packages will be installed:
>   dnsmasq 
> 0 packages upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 63  not upgraded.
> Need to get 26.8kB of archives. After unpacking 131kB will be used.
> Get:1 http://http.us.debian.org unstable/main dnsmasq 1.3-1 [26.8kB]
> Fetched 26.8kB in 0s (30.2kB/s)
> Can't ignore signal CHLD, forcing to default.
> dpkg-deb: wait for gzip -dc failed: No child processes
> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/dnsmasq_1.3-1_i386.deb 
> (--unpack):
>  subprocess dpkg-deb --control returned error exit status 2
> Errors were encountered while processing:
>  /var/cache/apt/archives/dnsmasq_1.3-1_i386.deb
> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)

I've never heard of this problem before, so I can't think of anything
specific, but have you tried google?  If it's ever happened to anyone,
anywhere before, it'll show up there.  Otherwise, have you tried
upgrading your dpkg to so if it's already fixed?
Sorry I can't be of more help.

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Re: debian on old notebook

[Sean 'Shaleh' Perry]

On 05-Apr-2002 Mirek Dobsicek wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I have few question. Most of time I'm at college and twice a months
> I go home for a weekend. I dont have computer at home, and sometimes
> I need to continue at my work (coding and writing articles in VIM).
> 
> I'd like to buy some old notebook and install Debian on in.
> Right now I can buy i486 at 66Mhz, 8MB RAM, 500MB HDD
> for $10 US dolars.
> 
> Is it good idea to try install Debian on it? Is it possible with 8MB of RAM?
> 
> I need it just for VIM writting, man pages displaying, and Lynx offline
> browsing.
> 
> What could be the way to install Debian? I'm thinking that easist way
> is to connect notebook with my computer with parallel cable and
> install from internet.
> 
> 
> Or should I forget it and save $10?
> 

You will find the machine extremely slow, compiling anything will take forever.
 Kernel compiles in about a day on one of those.  Sure you won't be doing it,
but I just wanted to show you the whole situation.  If you can spend enough to
get a low end pentium you would be a lot happier.

As for the install, you will likely have to do the floppy shuffle to get
sufficiently far into the install to then use some form of network.


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Re[4]: FQDN hostname

[Alan Poulton]

Thursday, April 04, 2002, 10:43:10 PM, Alan Chandler wrote:

> It seems to me it might be useful for you to take a step away from the
> problem and realise three things.

> 1) Its not your computer but each interface that has an IP address

That makes sense when I pause to think about it. =]

As for the FQDN, I figured it out. The problem lay in /etc/dhcp/config
where it asks for the hostname there. When I changed that to a FQDN,
postfix installed without a hiccup.

But now I run into the problem that when I send mail to root, (I
believe) it's being sent to my ISP. The modem lights flash.

If I want to keep my mail all local, should I be using a fudged
hostname?

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Re: dhcpd.conf

[Brian W. Carver]

Mostly solved; thanks so much for the help so far:

For the benefit of those who search the archives, here's what got me partially 
on
the web:
(Problems and questions follow)

Here's my dhcpd.conf.  I wanted my IP addresses to start with 192.168.0.1 and go
up from there. I wonder if that is part of the problem (described below)?

# dhcpd.conf
#
# Brian's configuration file for ISC dhcpd
#
# April 4 2002
# option definitions common to all supported networks...
# Change domain-name to your domain name. I just preceeded my ISP with
# the name of my Linux computer.
option domain-name "debian.charterpipeline.com";

# The domain-name-servers you enter here will be used by all other
# computers on your LAN. They are ip addresses of your ISP's.
option domain-name-servers 24.205.1.62;

# This just tells all the other computers that you're a Class C network.
# If you're using the 192.168.x.x address, you're Class C. Don't change
# the IP address for this. It really should be 255.255.255.0
option subnet-mask 255.255.255.0;

# I went with the default lease times. I guess they could be longer.
default-lease-time 600;
max-lease-time 7200;

# These next two are important. They are your primary computer, I think.
option broadcast-address 192.168.0.255;
option routers 192.168.0.1;

# Here's where you set up your range of Dynamic IP Addresses. I set mine
# for 10 because I don't honestly think I'll have more than 10 computers
# hooked up. It is in this range that your Laptop will have an IP Address
# of. You could certainly set it to a range of 100-255 if you want,
# reserving the first 100 IPs for Static.
subnet 192.168.0.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 {
  range 192.168.0.1 192.168.0.10;
}

# And here's where you can start setting up your Desktop computers and
# their static IP addresses. I honestly don't know what the "host" is used
# for, so I decided to make it a "Tag" so I know what computer it is. I
# don't have the MAC addresses memorized!
#
# When you do a winipcfg on your Windows boxen, the MAC Address is the
# hardware address given here. The fixed address is the Static IP you want
# to assign to that computer.
host debian.charterpipeline.com {
  hardware ethernet 00:C0:F0:56:2E:E9;
  fixed-address 192.168.0.1;
}
host JSDESKTOP {
  hardware ethernet 00:A0:CC:76:76:AB;
  fixed-address 192.168.0.2;
}

host LAPTOP {
  hardware ethernet 00:E0:98:73:5E:F7;
  fixed-address 192.168.0.3;
}
host JSLAPTOP {
  hardware ethernet 00:00:00:00:00:00;
  fixed-address 192.168.0.4;
}

## eof

and this is my /etc/network/interfaces:

# /etc/network/interfaces -- configuration file for ifup(8), ifdown(8)
# The loopback interface
iface lo inet loopback

#first network card connected to isp
auto eth0
iface eth0 inet dhcp

#network card connecting to the local network
auto eth1
iface eth1 inet static
address 192.168.0.1
netmask 255.255.255.0

One thing I learned is that the host option in dhpcd.conf does not like
apostrophes or spaces or maybe both.  I was trying to call a machine J'S DESKTOP
and dhcp wouldn't start. It said it was expecting a curly brace. Switching the
name to JSDESKTOP fixed that.

OK, so doing the above got the linux computer on the web, but neither of the
attached computers could share the connection.  They are the ones on win98 and I
notice if I do winipcfg on them now, there is a subtle change.  Whereas when 
they
share the internet under windows they say:

DNS Servers 192.168.0.1

Now they say:

DNS Servers 24.205.1.62

This 24.205.1.62 is supposed (I think) to only show up on the box directly
connected to the ISP, not on the others.  Any ideas on what setting messed that
up, or whether that is even the problem?

Unfortunately now though, I've taken a step backwards.  I was running dselect 
and
updating (apparently too much stuff) via ftp and I got a weird error saying I 
had
no space left in /var/cache/apt/archives.  I have a mostly empty 60GB hard drive
so I was baffled.  Many errors had to be ignored.  Anyway, something it updated
or half-updated makes eth0 not get assigned an ip address anymore and so now I
can't try to fix the updates because I lost internet completely.  Any ideas?
Sorry for limited info, since I myself am not sure what to provide to be 
helpful.

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Re: KDE3 and Woody

[Sean 'Shaleh' Perry]

On 05-Apr-2002 Patrick Schnorbus wrote:
> Is Woody going to use KDE3 or do I need an upgrade to Sid?
> 

KDE3 will likely not end up in woody.


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Re: USB Mass Storage in 2.4.18-686

[Thomas Shemanske]

You should probably also have scsi-generic loaded as a module

modprobe sg

You could install the package scsiadd, then run
scsiadd -s

to scan the scsi devices.

On occasion (no idea why), I suddenly needed to mount sdb1 instead of sda1.

I use this sandisk reader on 2.4.18 without a problem, but it is not a 
stock kernel.


Let me know if you need more info.

Tom




john wrote:


Hi

I recently installed kernel image 2.4.18-686 under Woody but found I was 
unable to mount my Sandisk CF reader (SDDR-31), whereas under 2.4.17-686

this works flawlessly.

So I get the source - debian kernel-source-2.4.18-4, configure it, compile.
Still no go, but I get a handy error message (I expect because I
turned on kernel debugging):

# mount /mnt/cam
resize_dma_pool: unknown device type -1
mount: /dev/sda1 is not a valid block device

I'm using the same usb/scsi configure options as in my successful
2.4.17 kernel, and the appropriate modules all seem to be loaded:

# lsmod grep 'usb\|scsi'
usb-storage48000   0  (unused)
scsi_mod   84984   2  [sd_mod usb-storage]
usbcore48192   0  [uhci usb-storage]

... usb-storage is unused though, as if the kernel can't find the
device - which I guess is what the original error is saying.

Anyone have any clues on this?
Anything more I should try?

Does this look like a genuine bug that I should report - I'm new to debian so 
I'm unused to the protocols for this, but as I say it works fine in 
2.4.17-686 whether I use the pre-compiled binary or complile it myself.







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Re: USB Mass Storage in 2.4.18-686

[Sean 'Shaleh' Perry]

> 
># lsmod grep 'usb\|scsi'
> usb-storage _ _ _ _ _ _48000 _ 0 _(unused)
> scsi_mod _ _ _ _ _ _ _ 84984 _ 2 _[sd_mod usb-storage]
> usbcore _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _48192 _ 0 _[uhci usb-storage]
> 
> ... usb-storage is unused though, as if the kernel can't find the
> device - which I guess is what the original error is saying.
> 

unused simply means no other module depends on it currently.


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2 apt questions about the mirror archives

[Scott Henson]

I have been using a script to update my machine every few days to keep
it up to date.  The only problem is that lately I have been noticing
that none of my packages have been updating.  I thought that maybe this
was a result of non-us to main change over, but it doesnt make sense. 
When ever I would go to install a package I could do an apt-get update 2
seconds before and apt-get would still be unable to find some of the
packages I was trying to install.  Then I would do another apt-get
update and it could find the packages then.  I thought this was really
weird.  Then last night my script ran again and a bunch of packages were
needing to be upgraded.  Now my script attempted to download them all,
but a bunch of them were unfetchable.  I thought this was super weird so
I added the main archive at ftp.us.debian.org to my sources.list file
and everything came through just fine.  I have been using
debian.rutgers.edu for my source and before that I was using
debian.lcs.mit.edu (or something like that) but that apparently went off
the air.  I havent checked back for a while.  I was wondering if someone
knew of a good archive in the north east of the U.S. that is fast and
reliable, or is this just a problem with the mirroring system caused by
the non-us to main transition?

Also I have been using apt pinning for a while now and on my upgrade
today I noticed that apt was trying to fetch a lot of packages from
unstable.  The number of packages it was trying to fetch was slightly
disconcerting to me because I dont believe I have that many packages
from unstable.  Maybe Im wrong, but should my attached preferences file
only get packages from unstable if they arent available in testing?  Any
suggestions would be appreciated.  Thank you.


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Re: SOLVED IT! Permissions and scsi cdrom?

[Cheryl Homiak]

I found the answer!
Sg0 sg1, etc. for generic scsi, which get used somehow but aren't actually
linked to scd0 and scd1 or /cdrom etc., has permissions that don't allow you to
access them as a user. since sg0 and sg1 etc. don't belong to the cdrom group
either, this doesn't help any. I changed my permissions for the relevant sg
drives to 766 (actually, I think 666 would have been ok) and now abcde and
cdparanoia work fine for me as a user.


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