Re: Problems with email

[Jason Chambers]

Vittorio wrote:

I've setup a small home network to prevent my children from having a
look at sordid sites. So I connected a server to a couple of PCs wia
ethernet card and the server to my ISP via modem. The server and
another box run woody while one PC (my children's) has Win 98 on it.

On the server I've installed squid as a proxy & squidguard, diald &
samba and a tiny firewall using iptables.

It all ticks greatly with the exception of email. 


While I can browse through the proxy everything but indecent sites,
when I try from a client to get my mail with mutt, diald starts (and
connects to the ISP) but nothing else happens, it all hangs there
waiting for I dunno what.


Although you can access web pages ok I assume that because you have set 
each browser on the network to use the gateway as a proxy.  However I 
know of no mail client (sorry don't use mutt) in which you can do the 
same (no doubt there will be many emails correcting me on this :-) ).




In squid.conf  I allowed as an acl the  safe_port port 110 and 25.

In resolv.conf on the client I have put both nameservers.

Of course, everywhere I've defined the gateway machine both on linux
and win 98 boxes.

Perhaps I miss something. Please help.

Ciao

Vittorio


Are you using IP masquerading on your gateway machine?

If not then this  is your problem.  Packets are being passed to your 
server (as it then dials the ISP) because the clients have it as their 
default gateway but the packets are probably keeping the IP address of 
the internal client machines so the data gets to the mail server but has 
little chance of getting back to any of your machines.  IP masquerading 
solves this by editing the packets so they appear to come from your 
server and then editing them again when they come back so they get to 
the client machines.


You will then want to make sure that port 80 is blocked for out-going 
traffic except for your server else the client machine will be able to 
bypass the proxy.


A good read is the Network Administrators Guide (there's a link on the 
Debian documentation page).  Its a big'un but quite readable I found...


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Re: mapping dell cpu to woody 2.4.16 kernel

[Scott Henson]

On Tue, 2002-04-09 at 00:25, dman wrote:

> | NNN should be the arch notation taken from the table above
> 
> I've never used this argument, but I have specified an arch in the
> configuration menu.

I know there is a place to specify arch in the kernel .config file, but
I dont think the gcc knows about this.  the --subarch switch tells the
gcc about that and it puts in certain optimizations.  

> Increment the revision number each time you recompile.  This will
> prevent conflicts between the packages, and you'll also know which
> recompile you are testing this time.

I always do this now because I had a problem with some stale modules
left behind after I recompiled a kernel(thats what I get for not
listening to the warnings) but IMHO its just good practice to get rid of
bad and old kernels.
Also the revision number isnt going to be included in the kernel name.
You might try
--append_to_version foo 
foo being something that differentiates between each kernel(perhaps 1.0)


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Re: 2 distros

[Michael D. Crawford]

If you're wanting to install a second distro, but you didn't plan ahead 
for it, it's likely that doing the second installation would be 
troublesome for you, because you would need some hard drive partitions 
you hadn't planned for.


One option in this case is to use User Mode Linux.  This is a version of 
a linux installation in which the kernel runs as a user process within 
your existing Suse (or whatever) installation.  It uses a filesystem 
heirarchy that lives within a single large regular file on your existing 
installation.


This has several advantages.  One is that if you don't like the 
installation, or you mess it up somehow, you can back it out just by 
deleting that file.  It's also used for things like debugging the kernel 
with user mode kernels, studying kernel operation, and trying out 
unknown user applications and new kernel code in a sandbox where it 
won't be able to attack your machine.


It's particularly useful for what you want to do, to evaluate a 
different distribution.


The project home page should be:

http://user-mode-linux.sourceforge.net/

But it's not responding for me right this sec.  The project sourceforge 
page is:


http://sourceforge.net/projects/user-mode-linux/

which is responding.  I see that they have readymade Debian and RedHat 
distributions you can download, as well as just the kernel.


It probably takes more expertise with Linux to get user-mode Linux 
configured properly on your machine than to just run an installer of a 
CD to naked hardware, but what you would learn in doing this would 
probably be pretty worthwhile.


It is possible to install many different distributions simultaneously on 
a PC that you boot off for real (not running in a user process like the 
above) but it requires that you either carefully plan your partitioning 
ahead of time before you do your first installation, or that you use 
extra disk drives.


If you use SCSI disks with either wide or LVD scsi, using a controller 
such as the adaptec 29160, you can have up to 15 separate disk drives 
(with some in external cases) and boot off of any of them.  You can 
either use the SCSI controller BIOS settings to select a boot drive, or 
use a fancy boot loader like grub (http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/ and 
available as a debian package).


I do cross platform development and am always having to run some random 
new OS, so I use SCSI drives as much as I can.


Best,

Michael D. Crawford
GoingWare Inc. - Expert Software Development and Consulting
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Re: mapping dell cpu to woody 2.4.16 kernel

[dman]

On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 11:50:27PM -0400, Scott Henson wrote:
| On Mon, 2002-04-08 at 15:42, dman wrote:
| > On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 10:35:37AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| > 
| > | I would like to use a 2.4.16 kernel with woody.
...

| > Go with kernel 2.4.18 instead.  The latest is (almost) always better.
| > I've got 2.4.18 running on both my machines.
| 
| I agree.  But maybe you should cook your own using kernel-package
| just grab the kernel source off the nearest kernel.org mirror untar it

apt-get install kernel-source-2.4.18

| and 
| make {config, menuconfig, xconfig} 
| then
| make-kpkg clean && make-kpkg --revision I --subarch NNN --arch_in_name 
kernel_image

fakeroot make-kpkg clean  && \
fakeroot make-kpkg \
--config={config,menuconfig,xconfig} \
--append-to-version=-custom.$I \
--revision=custom.$I \
kernel_image

| I should be a number to differentiate between different kernels in dpkg

ditto

| NNN should be the arch notation taken from the table above

I've never used this argument, but I have specified an arch in the
configuration menu.

| after this it should compile and you should have a kernel optimized for
| your architecture.  Also if one kernel doesnt work, be sure to uninstall
| it before you install a new one that you re-compiled. 

Increment the revision number each time you recompile.  This will
prevent conflicts between the packages, and you'll also know which
recompile you are testing this time.

-D

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Re: Unix(LF) files to MSDOS(CRLF) and vice versa

[Sean 'Shaleh' Perry]

On 09-Apr-2002 Crispin Wellington wrote:
> On Tue, 2002-04-09 at 10:42, Daniel Toffetti wrote:
>> Hi !
>> 
>> How can I use rpl (or any other suitable command) to transform the "\n" 
>> character between Unix and Msdos formats ?? rpl seems to be the right 
>> tool, but I can't figure out how to specify that strings.
>> 
>> Thanks !!
> 
> I know how to get rid of the msdos crap, but not how to put it back
> 
> cat text.txt | sed -e 's/^M//g' > text2.txt
> 
> But the crux is you get the ^M in the command line by typing ctrl-v and
> then pressing return.
> 

see the message above your.  unix2dos and dos2unix are the friend of anyone
having to move files back and forth.


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Re: Problems with email

[David Bell]

I could be absolutely incorrect, but, I believe Squid handles FTP and
HTTP (with some less popular stuff like Gopher, too) only  -- no
SMTP/IMAP/POP3, etc.  Does your firewall allow SMTP and POP3/IMAP to be
masqueraded to the other computers?

On Mon, 2002-04-08 at 08:25, Vittorio wrote:
> I've setup a small home network to prevent my children from having a
> look at sordid sites. So I connected a server to a couple of PCs wia
> ethernet card and the server to my ISP via modem. The server and
> another box run woody while one PC (my children's) has Win 98 on it.
> 
> On the server I've installed squid as a proxy & squidguard, diald &
> samba and a tiny firewall using iptables.
> 
> It all ticks greatly with the exception of email. 
> 
> While I can browse through the proxy everything but indecent sites,
> when I try from a client to get my mail with mutt, diald starts (and
> connects to the ISP) but nothing else happens, it all hangs there
> waiting for I dunno what.
> 
> In squid.conf  I allowed as an acl the  safe_port port 110 and 25.
> 
> In resolv.conf on the client I have put both nameservers.
> 
> Of course, everywhere I've defined the gateway machine both on linux
> and win 98 boxes.
> 
> Perhaps I miss something. Please help.
> 
> Ciao
> 
> Vittorio
> 
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Re: Procmail Rules for Debian lists

[Noah Meyerhans]

On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 06:35:58PM +0100, Paul Sargent wrote:
> I'm getting quite a lot of messages dropping through my procmail rules for
> debian lists. I was wondering if anyone here had a good setup.

From the procmailrc(5) man page:
   If  the regular expression contains `^TO_' it will be sub­
   stituted by `(^((Original-)?(Resent-)?(To|Cc|Bcc)|(X-
   Envelope|Apparently(-Resent)?)-To):(.*[^-a-zA-Z0-9_.])?)',
   which should catch all destination specifications
   containing a specific address.

So, my .procmailrc consists of a bunch of rules that look like this:
:0:
* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
./mail/incoming/debian-user

I subscribe to a whole ton of lists (7 debian lists, freeswan-users,
bugtraq, a couple netbsd lists...) and rules of the above form never
seem to fail.

noah

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upgrade problems with install-info hangups

[Alan E . Davis]

Does everyone who upgrades have snags with install-info?  I received an email 
when I posted a similar inquiry some months ago, that someone had never had 
such a problem.  But especially when I am doing an update/upgrade after a long 
interval, with, say 200MB of files (sid), over several years I have had 
problems requiring hand editing of prerm and postinst files, to upgrade 
multiple packages.  This can take hours.  

I usually just comment out or delete lines for install-info.  Does this lead to 
more problems later on?  What can I do to eliminate this problem?

Can someone lend a clue?  

Alan Davis

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Re: mapping dell cpu to woody 2.4.16 kernel

[Scott Henson]

On Mon, 2002-04-08 at 15:42, dman wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 10:35:37AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> | I would like to use a 2.4.16 kernel with woody. I have a dell with a dual
> | processor chip set 860. What version of the precompiled kernel maps to that
> | chip set?
> 
> Are the processors Intel or AMD?
> Are they Pentium I,  II, III, IV, Celeron, Duron, or Athlon?
>  586 686 686  686 ??   k7k7
^^
 686

> (I think I've got them all correct, except for the celeron)
> 
> Go with kernel 2.4.18 instead.  The latest is (almost) always better.
> I've got 2.4.18 running on both my machines.

I agree.  But maybe you should cook your own using kernel-package
just grab the kernel source off the nearest kernel.org mirror untar it
and 
make {config, menuconfig, xconfig} 
then
make-kpkg clean && make-kpkg --revision I --subarch NNN --arch_in_name
kernel_image
I should be a number to differentiate between different kernels in dpkg
NNN should be the arch notation taken from the table above
after this it should compile and you should have a kernel optimized for
your architecture.  Also if one kernel doesnt work, be sure to uninstall
it before you install a new one that you re-compiled. 

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Re: good day.

[Crispin Wellington]

On Tue, 2002-04-09 at 11:22, Greg Ray wrote:
> Does it accur to people that maby sending e-mails like this to thousands of
> people might be a security risk? This is a mailing-list with allot of
> subscribers.

Not if the original is full of lies.

Crispin


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Re: good day.

[Greg Ray]

Does it accur to people that maby sending e-mails like this to thousands of
people might be a security risk? This is a mailing-list with allot of
subscribers.
- Original Message -
From: "Paul Igeh22" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 6:07 PM
Subject: good day.


> Attn:The President/C.E.O,
>
> I am writing you to intune you with an immediate opportunity which would
be beneficial to us both if we are able to strike an accord on the issue
understatded.
>
> I am an artist resident here in Nigeria where I practice and Lecture in
creative art, and I have this well to do client who has made an offer of a
transaction to me, at the end of which about US.45.MILLION would be invested
internationally in real estate and any other high turnover yielding
venture(via my agency) My client would though need
> the assistance of a reliable and trustworthy person to enable him retrieve
the funds needed for the futherance of the investment plans he is nuturing.
The search for this trustworthy person forms the primary
> basis of my comunication with you.
>
> The assistance sought by my client involves the successful transfer to you
of the above mentioned sum in cash.
>
> This entails of course phisical delivery to you,which means we could have
you come down to Nigeria,open up a domiscilary account locally in your name
and deposit the fund therein bits of US$7 million daily.
>
> Consequently the fund will be wired into your account offshore upon your
instruction to which ever bank you open up the local account with.
>
> Optionally,we can find a fool proof way of delivering cash to you
abroad,if you percieve that you can handle that sum independently abroad.
>
> The basic Idea here is that my client worked with a Government security
parastatal and made the money during the past regime,and the general state
of afairs in Nigeria entails that we as citizens are in no way
> attached to the fund,where as the fund must be transfered out so it can be
of use.
>
> If you do accept to work with me in this deal,I would share with you 30%
of that sum which my client has promised to me as commission.
>
> I must implore you at this point to kindly observe confidentiality during
and after this transaction, futhermore I will gladly,upon your request,give
all informaton that would facilitate the speedy execution
> of this transaction which we could dexteriously execute in just a few
days.
>
> I look forward to doing profitable business with you and also I really
want you to respond urgently.
>
>
> Thanks for your understanding and anticipated
> cooperation.
>
> REGARDS
>
> Paul Igeh.
>
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debian install-info - A recipe please.

[Harry Putnam]

Can someone tell me the standard way to do this using debian
install-info? 

Create my own (as a user) small directory of info files, even just
one, that will be seen by the stand alone info reader.  So that if I
say info My_package it will be displayed.

In the instant case the package is cvs version of tramp.
I've fiddled with the stock debian install-info relentlessly but
haven't found out how to do this chore.

I can see how to insert an entry in /usr/info/dir for tramp.

install-info --section Networking Networking \
 --infodir /usr/info  tramp.info

but this requires root privs.

I know how to do it with gnu install-info, but am researching this in
order to include some pointers in the tramp.info file about how to do
this on debian systems.



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Netmeeting clone (not gnomemeeting)

[Paul 'Baloo' Johnson]

I'm looking for a netmeeting clone that doesn't have the fourty-thousand
dependancies that gnomemeeting does.  Does this exist?

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Re: Unix(LF) files to MSDOS(CRLF) and vice versa

[Crispin Wellington]

On Tue, 2002-04-09 at 10:42, Daniel Toffetti wrote:
> Hi !
> 
> How can I use rpl (or any other suitable command) to transform the "\n" 
> character between Unix and Msdos formats ?? rpl seems to be the right 
> tool, but I can't figure out how to specify that strings.
> 
> Thanks !!

I know how to get rid of the msdos crap, but not how to put it back

cat text.txt | sed -e 's/^M//g' > text2.txt

But the crux is you get the ^M in the command line by typing ctrl-v and
then pressing return.

Crispin



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Re: VoiceIP

[Elizabeth Barham]

Alan Poulton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> As for the answer to your question initially, did you try
> 
> http://www.openh323.org/  ?

I know very little about H.323 . However, there has been some work on
making a Connection Tracker (thing?) for H.323 with netfilter and to
the best of my knowledge it is either ready or in a beta-stage.

For more in-depth information visit:

http://www.netfilter.org/ or search google for netfilter and H.323.

Netfilter works with kernels >= 2.4.x and if your Debian distribution
is Potato then it's kernel is 2.2.x, meaning you'll have to compile a
newer kernel and enable netfilter and apply any patches for H.323.

Alan mentioned openh323.org - there is also an h323 proxy project at
sourceforge:

http://openh323proxy.sourceforge.net/

There is a mailing list entitled "debian-firewall" which sounds like
something you (Angel) might be interested in joining.

hth, Elizabeth





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Re: Unix(LF) files to MSDOS(CRLF) and vice versa

[traxlend]

On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 11:42:15PM -0300, Daniel Toffetti wrote:
> Hi !
> 
> How can I use rpl (or any other suitable command) to transform the "\n" 
> character between Unix and Msdos formats ?? rpl seems to be the right 
> tool, but I can't figure out how to specify that strings.

In the sysutils package, there are utilities to do this. Look at the 
manpages for dos2unix and unix2dos.

FYI: If you send text files through FTP using ascii mode, it will also
translate carriage returns.

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Re: What are these mails?

[Crispin Wellington]

On Tue, 2002-04-09 at 10:43, Crispin Wellington wrote:
> On Tue, 2002-04-09 at 06:59, John Lord wrote:
> > Hi there,
> > 
> > Over the last few days I have recieved a lot of mails with the following 
> > subjects:-
> > 
> > Not read: ÍøÕ¾±à¼­:ÄúºÃ
> > Nem olvasta: Í???±??­:Äú??
> > Read: ÍøÕ¾±à¼­:ÄúºÃ
> > 
> > They are from different subscribers but all have an attachment titles 
> > winmail.dat.
> 
> I second this. I too have recieved these. I too wish to know what they
> are. I've deleted them now, but I recall that some of them at least came
> from Outlook clients.

Scratch that. Just found the thread "Ok, so what's this MS Exchange
crap?". Teach me for not reading all the messages in the box in the
morning before replying.

Crispin


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Unix(LF) files to MSDOS(CRLF) and vice versa

[Daniel Toffetti]

Hi !

How can I use rpl (or any other suitable command) to transform the "\n" 
character between Unix and Msdos formats ?? rpl seems to be the right 
tool, but I can't figure out how to specify that strings.

Thanks !!

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Re: What are these mails?

[Crispin Wellington]

On Tue, 2002-04-09 at 06:59, John Lord wrote:
> Hi there,
> 
> Over the last few days I have recieved a lot of mails with the following 
> subjects:-
> 
> Not read: ÍøÕ¾±à¼­:ÄúºÃ
> Nem olvasta: Í???±??­:Äú??
> Read: ÍøÕ¾±à¼­:ÄúºÃ
> 
> They are from different subscribers but all have an attachment titles 
> winmail.dat.

I second this. I too have recieved these. I too wish to know what they
are. I've deleted them now, but I recall that some of them at least came
from Outlook clients.

Crispin



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how to remove apache server info in the header?

[Patrick Hsieh]

Hello list,

How can I remove the server info. form the apache http header?


Server: Apache/1.3.23 (Unix) Debian GNU/Linux PHP/4.1.2



[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ telnet localhost 80

GET HTTP/1.1 /

HTTP/1.1 400 Bad Request
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 02:37:49 GMT
Server: Apache/1.3.23 (Unix) Debian GNU/Linux PHP/4.1.2
Connection: close
Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1



400 Bad Request

Bad Request
Your browser sent a request that this server could not understand.
Invalid URI in request GET HTTP/1.1 /

Connection closed by foreign host.

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Re: AW: debian on old notebook

[Bud Rogers]

On Monday 08 April 2002 14:29 pm, Mr. Jan Hearthstone wrote:

> Hearthstone:
> Where does one get laptops as cheap as that? ($10.-??,
> $30.-?).

Could you share a URL?  I tried google, got a bunch of hits that didn't 
seem to fit.

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Re: gnome-gv / libscrollkeeper error with sid

[marshal]

> "Jeff" == Jeff  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Jeff> [EMAIL PROTECTED], 2002-Apr-06 21:03 +0900:
>> > "Klaus" == Klaus Rechert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> 
Klaus> Hi all anyone got this error ?
>>
Klaus> scrollkeeper-update: relocation error:
Klaus> /usr/lib/libscrollkeeper.so.0: undefined symbol:
Klaus> xmlLoadExtDtdDefaultValue
>>
Klaus> happens while install/upgrade/remove
>>  I do when trying to install nautilus, and I don't have the
>> skills to figure it out.
>> 
>> Perhaps someone who can find something useful for the debugs
>> should file a bug?
>> 
>> Marshal

Jeff> I got this same error while intalling nautilus into woody
Jeff> recently.  I resolved the problem by purging scrollkeeper
Jeff> and libscrollkeeper0, plus a couple of dependancies, and
Jeff> reinstalling them.  So, I don't know what the problem was,
Jeff> but it's working nicely now.

It's been fixed in testing.  (That's the rule in testing.  Wait and it
will be fixed.  ^_^)  I think there was a new library dependancy that
didn't get installed during an upgrade.  Don't know why.  But it's
working now.

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Re: 2 distros

[Jaye Inabnit ke6sls]

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On Monday 08 April 2002 09:16 pm, j y wrote:
> Hi, 

Greetings:

>I'm even having problems sending this message. I don't know if its
> because I'm knew to linux, or brain drain. 

All your posts were sent to thousands of people which would indicate that 
your mailer has worked as advertised.  Since you can form sentences, I'd also 
say that it is my official opinion that you are not brain dead, but I am not 
a medical doctor.

>Does anyone know a simple way of
> getting two distros on a hard drive. I'm running suse 7.3 and want to try
> debian. 

Yes.

>Thanks

You are welcome.

Now then, enough of silly bantar.  First, you will need a piece of the hard 
drive for a Debian root partition.  If you don't have space, think about 
either repartitioning Suse's root, removing Suse, or installing another 
(>1.5GB) hard drive just for Debian play.

Once you start the install, you can re-use the swap partition that Suse would 
have created on its' install, though this is a mute point if you elect to use 
a separate drive for Debian.  The rest is really specific to your own 
hardware needs.  The install is known to be a pain, but once you are past it, 
Debian is the kindest distro I have used for installing packages and removing 
them later without system failure.  The big trick here is taking some time to 
read the install manual on the official debian web site, or its' mirrors.

If you are a total newbieduebiedo, I would recommend local support from a 
person who has some experience with various distros.  If it all fails, and 
the computer catches on fire, you can use their assistance with the 
extinguishers.

Best of luck to you.  I do hope you find success.

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Re: Spam or windows virus? [Was Re: Not read:

[dman]

On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 06:09:41AM +0800, csj wrote:
| Okay, I know it's bad replying to email that's not supposed to be posts.
| But I've been receiving for several days now these little blank beauties
| which on inspection show:
| 
| Content-Type: application/ms-tnef;
|   name="winmail.dat"
| 
| I supposed I've gotten a little lazy updating my filter rules. But I'm
| just curious as to what precisely these emails are.

They're auto replies (read receipts) from MS Lookout.  That "ms-tnef"
thing is a MS-specific imitation of a VCARD.

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Re: 2 distros

[Richard Cobbe]

Lo, on Monday, April 8, j y did write:

[reformatted for 70 columns]

> Hi I'm using Suse 7.3 right now and I want to put debian on my hard
> drive. Is there an easy way to do this. I'm into easy if
> possible. thanks

I'm assuming you want to install the two distributions in parallel,
right?

It's certainly possible to have multiple distributions installed on the
same machine; I did this when I transitioned from RedHat to Debian about
18 months ago, and I'm doing it now as I'm transitioning from stable to
testing.

How easy this is depends on how your disk is currently partitioned.

The basic process:

1) Create a boot floppy that lets you get into your current Suse
   install.  You may not need this, but it's a good idea to have one
   around.

2) Adjust your partitioning scheme so that you've got room for Debian
   (see the installation guide as well as
    for
   suggestions on partition sizes and disk requirements.)  Other than
   possibly having to resize them, you'll leave your existing Suse
   partitions alone.

3) Install Debian on the new partitions.  There are some issues with
   uids and so forth, but you may be able to share your /home partition
   between distributions.  (This assumes you have a separate partition
   for /home, of course.)

   During the installation, you'll have the option to mount existing
   Linux partitions; you'll probably want to mount your Suse stuff at
   this point.  Use mount points like /suse, /suse/usr, and so forth.

4) Boot into debian using the boot loader installed during step 3.  Edit
   /etc/lilo.conf (or whatever boot loader config file you use) to
   provide choices for your Suse kernels as well as the Debian ones,
   reinstall the boot loader, and reboot.

HTH,

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Re: Ok, so what's this MS Exchange crap? (was Re: Not read: ????????:????)

[Paul 'Baloo' Johnson]

On Mon, 8 Apr 2002, Shawn McMahon wrote:

> My response was to set up a procmail filter to auto-bounce
> "application/ms-tnef".

How do you do this?

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Re: 2 distros

[Luca Pasquali]

On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 10:57:35PM -0500, j y wrote:
> Hi I'm using Suse 7.3 right now and I want to put debian on my hard drive. Is 
> there an
> easy way to do this. I'm into easy if possible. thanks
> 
simple thing: erase your suse :)

luca


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Re: Building a single user Internet terminal / Done!

[Tom Cook]

On  0, Erik van der Meulen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 01:39:52PM +0800, Crispin Wellington wrote:
> 
> > > which contains a file 'SecurityPolicy'. That seems to be applicable,
> > > only quite complex! Can I accomplish the required by making changes
> > > here?
> 
> > Do you have /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config?
> 
> > Read my post somewhere else in this thread re: Xwrapper.config
> 
> Ah thanks, that slipped through. Now it works just as I wanted!
> 
> Resuming:
> 
> - I replaced the symlink for 'xdm' in /etc/rc2 with a symlink to a new
>   script called /etc/init.d/kiosk.
> 
> - That script runs /usr/local/bin/startkiosk as user kiosk
> 
> - /usr/local/bin/startkiosk only does 'startx'
> 
> - in /home/kiosk/.Xsession Galeon is started fullscreen, with a few
>   tabs that contain some useful bookmarks.
> 
> - for the time it also starts icewm-experimental because that seems
>   to work better with some popups. I will experiment a little more
>   later.
> 
> I am quite pleased with this setup and would like to thank all that have
> helped me out with it!
> 
> Funny thing is this: I cannot establish a telnet session with the kiosk
> machine. After I enter my login name I get:
> 
>   System bootup in progress - please wait
> 
> and than fails. Should be because of the changes in the rc2? Is there a
> way around this? Not too much of a problem (walking 3 stairs basically)
> but if there is a simple solution...

The reason this happens is that the running of the rc?.d scripts is
part of init changing runlevel.  The system is not considered to be
fully booted until the runlevel is completely changed.  Since your
entire user session is occuring during the runlevel change, the system
does not finish booting... until it shuts down, perhaps not even then.

What *I* think you should do is something like this:

 * Let the system go through a 'normal' boot so that it presents the
'login:' prompt.
 * Change this part of inittab:

1:2345:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty1
2:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty2
3:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty3
4:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty4
5:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty5
6:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty6

to:

ks:2345:once:"su kiosk -c '/usr/local/sbin/startkiosk'"

which will run the kiosk at boot but will allow the normal boot
process to complete.  It also has the effect of completely denying
console logins, which you may or may not like.  Or, even better,

km:2345:once:"echo Press Ctrl-S to start the kiosk."
ks:2345:kbrequest:"su kiosk -c '/usr/local/sbin/startkiosk'"

but you need to mess with the kbd stuff to map Ctrl-S to a special
signal then.

Remember than anyone with physical access to the machine can
potentially boot with 'linux -single' unless you stop lilo from
presenting a prompt.  But then, if you deny console logins, and don't
allow single user mode, and, say, your network card gets borked, or
even if telnetd/sshd won't allow root logins, how are you going to
admin the machine?  Have a boot disk which can boot *without* the hard
disk handy!

My $0.02.

Tom
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Re: Building a single user Internet terminal / Done!

[Tom Cook]

On  0, Shawn McMahon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> begin  quoting what Karsten M. Self said on Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 10:18:58AM 
> -0700:
> > 
> > Not recommended.  If X quits abnormally, it will also restart.  What you
> > want:
> > 
> >startx_command && shutdown -h now
> > 
> > ...which should only restart the system if X is exited normally.  If it
> > exits with a nonzero status, the system stays up.
> 
> Stays up at a shell prompt.  It's a kiosk, remember?
> 
> Shell prompt == bad.  Restart == less bad.

So...

while 0 ; do
startx_command && shutdown -h now ;
done

will only shutdown when startx_command exits with error 0, otherwise
it'll restart.

Tom
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RE: Read: ÍøÕ¾±à¼­:ÄúºÃ

[Dave Scott]

Ok, Well sorry for the trouble.

I turned off every feature as far as read receipts.

Damn Lookout.  


-dave

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To: Debian User
Subject: Re: Read: ÍøÕ¾±à¼:ÄúºÃ

On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 12:43:44PM -0700, Dave Scott wrote:
| Anyone know where these messages are coming from.

Yes.

| But I didn't send them, although the header says they came from my
| computer.

They did.

| Is Microsoft Outlook the Culprit here.

Yes.


The spammer requested a "read receipt" (I guess that is done with a
certain header).  Your Outlook installation decided it would return a
read receipt to tell the sender you read (or at least clicked on)
their message.  There is a double problem here -- first it is
automatically sending the message; second it sent it to the wrong
address (and third it thinks that message is high priority).  See if
you can turn off that feature of Lookout.  In the meantime, some nice
filters will mask the problem at my end :-).

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Re: MPEG video recorder

[Tim Moss]

Apparently, on Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 03:01:56AM +0800, csj wrote:
> I'm looking for a software mpeg encoder that can produce synced
> audio/video from a bttv-compatible capture card. I'm presently using
> NVrec  to record DivX ;-) movies
> from my VCR. But since DivX is largely a PC-based video format, I lose
> the bragging rights to say, Made proudly by GNU/Linux.
> 
I use NVrec also (but with FFMPEG) with excellent results. Be sure to
get the patch on the NVrec site to keep audio and video in sync.

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Re: No Internet Connection (DHCP)

[Shawn McMahon]

begin  Brian W. Carver quotation:
> 
> Printer help anyone?

apt-get install printtool


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2 distros

[j y]

Hi, I'm even having problems sending this message. I don't know if its because 
I'm knew
to linux, or brain drain. Does anyone know a simple way of getting two distros 
on a
hard drive. I'm running suse 7.3 and want to try debian. Thanks

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Re: make install nvidia drivers

[Leonardo Canducci]

Il lun, 2002-04-08 alle 23:12, August Logan Bear Jr. ha scritto:
> I followed the instructions in the README file in
> /usr/share/docs/nvidia-kernel-src...  I downloaded the kernel source,
> decompressed it, copied the configuration file in /boot to the kernel
> source directory, decompressed the nvidia-kernel-src file, moved to the
> kernel source directory and executed 'make-kpkg modules_image'.  After
> waiting a while (from watching it, it doesn't compile a new kernel, just
> the modules (and actually only the nvidia modules), I moved to the
> /usr/src directory and dpkg'd the new nvidia-kernel deb.
> 
just tried following your instructions.
from /boot dir copied file config-2.4.18-k7 to kernel src dir.
running 
make-kpkg modules_image 
returns:

cervellone:/usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.18# make-kpkg modules_image
test -f stamp-debian || /usr/bin/make -f /usr/share/kernel-package/rules
debian
test -f .config  || /usr/bin/make -f /usr/share/kernel-package/rules
.configtest ! -f stamp-configure \
  && /usr/bin/make\
 ARCH=i386 oldconfig \
  && /usr/bin/make\
 ARCH=i386  dep \
  && /usr/bin/make\
 ARCH=i386 clean && \
  touch stamp-configure
make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.18'
rm -f include/asm
( cd include ; ln -sf asm-i386 asm)
/bin/sh scripts/Configure -d arch/i386/config.in
#
# Using defaults found in .config
#
*
* Code maturity level options
*
Prompt for development and/or incomplete code/drivers
(CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL) [Y/n/?] 
*
* Loadable module support
*
Enable loadable module support (CONFIG_MODULES) [Y/n/?] 
  Set version information on all module symbols (CONFIG_MODVERSIONS)
[Y/n/?] 
  Kernel module loader (CONFIG_KMOD) [N/y/?] (NEW) 


It asks me a billion questions and it looks like it isn't using config
file. Am I configuring the kernel?


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[exim] failed to open database lock file...

[Vincent Lefevre]

When I post to a moderated newsgroup, I have the following line in my
exim logs:

2002-04-09 01:07:58 16uiEu-0003oP-00 failed to open database lock file 
/var/spool/exim/db/wait-remote_smtp.lockfile: Permission denied (euid=8 egid=8)

This is due to:

ay:/var/spool/exim/db# ls -l
total 20
-rw-r-1 mail mail20480 Mar 23 01:53 retry
-rw-r-1 mail mail0 Mar  1 17:22 retry.lockfile
-rw-r-1 root root 4096 Mar  1 19:39 wait-remote_smtp
-rw-r-1 root root0 Mar  1 19:39 
wait-remote_smtp.lockfile

Is there a reason why the last two files have owner and group root?
Shouldn't they be mail?

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Re: 2 disros

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I would like to know if anyone has an easy way for loading a 2nd distro. Right 
now I'm
running Suse 7.3 and would like to try the lastest debian-which I have on 
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cron won't work for users

[Jason Majors]

Cron seems to be working funny for me.
If I make a change to my ~/bin/crontab then run "crontab ~/bin/crontab", the
changes are listed under "crontab -l" but never happen as indicated. If I
run "/etc/init.d/cron restart", the new cron entries are executed.
The same is true of entries in /etc/crontab.

I have cron 3.0pl1-72 from Sid.

Is this the desired behavior or do I have a buggy cron? (Or did I screw
something up?)

Thanks,
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Re: How to change default domain?

[Sean 'Shaleh' Perry]

On 08-Apr-2002 Balazs Javor wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> During the first time when installing Debian and networking
> it asked for the default domain name that is to be appended
> to non qualified host names...
> 

if you mean you want to do 'ping host' not 'ping host.mydomain' the usual
method is to add a 'search' directive to /etc/resolv.conf.


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2 distros

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Hi I'm using Suse 7.3 right now and I want to put debian on my hard drive. Is 
there an
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Re: Procmail Rules for Debian lists

[Colin Watson]

On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 06:35:58PM +0100, Paul Sargent wrote:
> I'm getting quite a lot of messages dropping through my procmail rules for
> debian lists. I was wondering if anyone here had a good setup.
> 
> The problem seems to be that not all mails from this list get tagged with
> X-Mailing-List which is what I'm checking on.
> 
> This is my current rule:
> 
> :0:
> * ^X-Mailing-List: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> * ^X-Mailing-List:  $DEBIAN/$MATCH

I use this:

DEBLISTS=announce|devel-announce|private

:0:
* $^X-Mailing-List: 
* ^X-Mailing-List: 

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Re: Veritas Net Backup 3.4 Client

[Alvin Oga]

hi ya john

veritas client ran fine for us on rh-7.x and slackware-8
( customer insisted on using veritas ... :-(
( i'd check the dns stuff on the local lan... 
( i'd also check the group/world read/write permission too


slightly(way) off topic...

i dont see any need for veritas or other commercial backup stuff
when all that is free off the net  for backing up *nix and windoze
http://www.Linux-Backup.net

c ya
alvin

On Mon, 8 Apr 2002, John E Decker wrote:

> Hey all..looking for the Debian agent for Veritas' Net Backup 3.4. We've
> seen references to it but can't locate it. We've downloaded the client
> for RH, but it doesn't seem to work. Would certainly appreciate any help
> or links for the agent.
>  
> Thanks! 
> 


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Re: Procmail Rules for Debian lists

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On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 06:35:58PM +0100, Paul Sargent wrote:
| Hi People,
| 
| I'm getting quite a lot of messages dropping through my procmail rules for
| debian lists. I was wondering if anyone here had a good setup.
| 
| The problem seems to be that not all mails from this list get tagged with
| X-Mailing-List which is what I'm checking on.

All messages which are delivered by the list software do have that
header (unless something is really broken there).  Were the missed
messages Cc'ed to you?

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Re: Ok, so what's this MS Exchange crap? (was Re: Not read: ????????:????)

[dman]

On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 02:45:08PM -0500, dman wrote:
 
| I just added this to my filter :
 
| logwrite "M$ Lookout read receipt  =p"

This will fail.  Instead use this line :
  logwrite "M\\$ Lookout read receipt  =p"

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Re: Read: ÍøÕ¾±à¼­:Äúº Ã

[dman]

On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 12:43:44PM -0700, Dave Scott wrote:
| Anyone know where these messages are coming from.

Yes.

| But I didn't send them, although the header says they came from my
| computer.

They did.

| Is Microsoft Outlook the Culprit here.

Yes.


The spammer requested a "read receipt" (I guess that is done with a
certain header).  Your Outlook installation decided it would return a
read receipt to tell the sender you read (or at least clicked on)
their message.  There is a double problem here -- first it is
automatically sending the message; second it sent it to the wrong
address (and third it thinks that message is high priority).  See if
you can turn off that feature of Lookout.  In the meantime, some nice
filters will mask the problem at my end :-).

-D

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Re: Read: ????????:????

[Ben Collins]

On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 12:43:44PM -0700, Dave Scott wrote:
> Anyone know where these messages are coming from.
> 
> I got a spam notice for sending 4 of these messages out last night.
> 
> But I didn't send them, although the header says they came from my
> computer.
> 
> Kinda lost here.
> 
> I checked for Viruses but none found.
> 
> Is Microsoft Outlook the Culprit here.

Either outlook or exchange. I'd complain to your NT admin. There should
be no notifications sent unless explicitly asked for.

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Re: Procmail Rules for Debian lists

[Luca Pasquali]

On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 06:35:58PM +0100, Paul Sargent wrote:
> * ^X-Mailing-List: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> * ^X-Mailing-List:  $DEBIAN/$MATCH

I use Resent-From from mail headers and works fine


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Re: make install nvidia drivers

[Gary Hennigan]

"Ben Farrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
[snip]
> p.s. I be very intrested to know where you got debian nvidia's deb's
> from ..

>From any Debian mirror. At least in testing and unstable. They're in
the contrib/x11 section. Do:

% apt-cache search nvidia
[snip]
nvidia-glx-src - NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x driver
nvidia-kernel-src - NVIDIA binary kernel module

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Re: fatal error: no screens found

[Simon Hepburn]

Modelines are deprecated in X4, unless you are trying to use a non-standard 
video mode. See the xfree86 video timings howto for more info.
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TapeWare on Debian

[Joshua Penix]

Anyone running TapeWare v6.3 (http://www.tapeware.com) on Debian Woody? 
I'm having trouble getting the Qt-based GUI admin to work on my system.

I did the standard TapeWare Linux install, which went just fine, and the
daemon is running. The ncurses-based admin program also works fine.

However, when I run 'twxadmin' (the GUI-based amin), I first get an
error saying it can't open libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2. I searched Debian
packages, and found that file in a package named
"libstdc++2.9-glibc2.1".

After installing that package, I re-run twxadmin, and now I get an error
asking for "libstdc++.so.2.8". Searching on that library unfortunately
turns up nothing. However, my system has a "libstdc++.so.3", so I
symlinked my .3 to .2.8, which seems to have satisfied that dependency.

But now when I run 'twxadmin,' I get "/usr/local/tapeware/twxadmin.bin:
relocation error: ./libqt.so: undefined symbol: __eh_pc"

That refers to the version of libqt.so that's provided in the
/usr/local/tapeware directory, and I have no idea how to troubleshoot
this problem.

Anyone have a suggestion?

Thanks,
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Re: Library weridness with ldd was Problems with Debian 3.0 and UT

[Steve Juranich]

> More weridness with this, if I run:
> 
> ldd /usr/local/games/ut/System/ut-bin
> 
> from /lib it works fine, the output is as follows:
> libdl.so.2 => ./libdl.so.2 (0x40014000)
> libnsl.so.1 => ./libnsl.so.1 (0x40018000)
> libpthread.so.0 => ./libpthread.so.0 (0x4002c000)
> Engine.so => not found
> Core.so => not found
> libSDL-1.1.so.0 => not found
> libm.so.6 => ./libm.so.6 (0x4004a000)
> libc.so.6 => ./libc.so.6 (0x4006b000)
> /lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x4000)
> 
> But it seems that if I run ldd from anywhere else it fails ...

Just a guess, but check out /etc/ld.so.conf.  Is it possible that it contains 
a line with a '.' instead of one that has /lib?

Like I said, just a guess.

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Re: Chrooted Debian install from base image (was Re: Instalation question: Toshiba TECRA 8000)

[Carel Fellinger]

On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 06:25:14PM -0700, Karsten M. Self wrote:
> on Sun, Apr 07, 2002, Carel Fellinger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > On Sat, Apr 06, 2002 at 08:52:50PM -0800, Karsten M. Self wrote:
...
> > Not sure what you're at here, but if it's just module configuration
> > why not hint at modconf?
> 
> Hmm...'coz I've never used it?
> 
> The bits of module configuration I'd like to get at:
> 
>   - Identifying what modules you need.  Typically:  controllers,
> filesystems, networking, etc.

tricky, but lacking in many other places.
 
>   - Making sure the modules are included with your kernel.  My
> understanding is that most Debian kernel images are fairly kitchen
> sink, so the problem is minimized here.  Rolling your own is a
> different story.

Refer to make-kpkg.

>   - Getting the modules loaded at boot or when needed for a device /
> function.  This part, frankly, I don't understand particularly well,
> though I manage to limp along by throwing lines into /etc/modules.

This is the part modconf is used for, so have a look at it:)
 
 
...
> > It would be nice if you could mention some of the other aproaches,
> > like netinstall and give a link to the iso.
> 
> This assumes I'm providing general advice.  I'm not.  I'm talking about
> chroot installs, and refer to the primary documentation for other
> options.  TMTOWTDI

Fair enough, I just thought that netinstall is so similar it might
deserve to be mentioned.


> I use '$ ' as my root prompt ;-).  IIRC, both TRB and LNX-BBC use '$ '
> for their prompt.  '# ' reads too much like a comment to my mind, '$ '
> indicates a shell prompt.

Yep, problematic. It's just that I'm so used to `# ' as root prompt:)
 
> I use control directives to display the userid in reverse video when
> root, which I find more distinctive than a prompt mod:

I use red, so I see your point:)


...
> > Is this in accordance with FSH (or what ever the beast is named).  I
> > remember some discussions a while ago, but missed the final verdict.
> 
> This is in accordance with the procedures I describe.  /mnt/floppy is
> used on the  boot system, not the chroot image.  Though I prefer /mnt
> for floppy, cdrom, and other removeable media mount points.

I was referring to the use of sub dirs of mount and the proposal to use
\media instead.


...
> > > $ chroot . bin/bash
> > 
> > One thing I always wondered how to deal with was with preventing
> > daemons to start / stop in the chrooted woody, especially as this
> > automatically happens when you install a new (version) `daemon'
> > packet.  Initially debootstrap uses a trick to prevent daemons from
> > really being started.  Might be worth explaining the trick and how it
> > can be used later on.
> 
> TRB doesn't run daemons ;-)
> 
> LNX-BBC runs a minimal set (sshd, if activated).

So those two bootstrap environments work more or less, but it would be
nice if this howto would cather for a debian bootstrap environment
(think potato) as well.  So a few words on it wouldn't harm.


...
> > If you go the debootstrap path, you need to install a kernel package
> > first.
> 
> Um...I thought I did that already...or did I?  Yes, in the paragraph
> above, though the process is elided.  Or am I missing something.

No, *I* was missing something:)
But in retrospect it might be better to refrase it as

   You probably want a Linux kernel and a bootloader.

is an understatement I didn't expect in an American text.

...
> Point being:
> 
>$ dpkg --get-selections < file
>$ apt-get update
>$ apt-get dist-upgrade
> 
> ...didn't work as expected.  Still looking for input.

Look at Colin's response, or did you miss his?


> Peace.

and Love.
 

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Re[2]: Read: ÍøÕ¾±à¼­:ÄúºÃ

[Alan Poulton]

Monday, April 08, 2002, 12:43:44 PM, Dave Scott wrote:

> Anyone know where these messages are coming from.

> I got a spam notice for sending 4 of these messages out last night.

> But I didn't send them, although the header says they came from my
> computer.

> Kinda lost here.

> I checked for Viruses but none found.

> Is Microsoft Outlook the Culprit here.

My guess here is that they're Reading Confirmation Messages. I've read a
couple messages in this newsgroup and after reading, my email program
(not MS Outlook) would ask, "Send Reading Confirmation? Y/N" And I
always say No. A confirmation would get cross-posted to the newsgroup, I
believe.

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Spam or windows virus? [Was Re: Not read: ÍøÕ¾±à¼ ­:ÄúºÃ]

[csj]

Okay, I know it's bad replying to email that's not supposed to be posts.
But I've been receiving for several days now these little blank beauties
which on inspection show:

Content-Type: application/ms-tnef;
name="winmail.dat"

I supposed I've gotten a little lazy updating my filter rules. But I'm
just curious as to what precisely these emails are.


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Re: VoiceIP

[Alan Poulton]

Monday, April 08, 2002, 1:22:06 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I need to use a program for ViceIP (Peoplecall) on a Windows inside a
> small private network. I have a Debian with ip masquerade.

>  How to config the debian to make the H323 protocol work???

I know this reply doesn't totally answer your question, but I thought
I'd throw in my two cents.

I use Picophone. A very small, light, and freeware VoiceOverIP (VOIP)
program that uses a standard UDP port. The website is

http://web.tiscali.it/vitez/picophone.html

I read on there (though have *not* verified this through any other
reading) that H323 is not terribly NAT friendly.

Picophone isn't the same as Peoplecall, in that the person you're
calling has to be running Picophone as well. Peoplecall will let you
actually call another mobile or landline.  So if communicating to a
regular phone, through the Internet, is what you're looking for. Sorry,
I can't help.

If talking to someone over the internet where they can run the same
program as you, Picophone may be your answer.

As for the answer to your question initially, did you try

http://www.openh323.org/  ?

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What are these mails?

[John Lord]

Hi there,

Over the last few days I have recieved a lot of mails with the following 
subjects:-

Not read: ÍøÕ¾±à¼­:ÄúºÃ
Nem olvasta: Í???±??­:Äú??
Read: ÍøÕ¾±à¼­:ÄúºÃ

They are from different subscribers but all have an attachment titles 
winmail.dat.


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Re: chrooted debian install from base image (was re: instalation question: toshiba tecra 8000)

[Carel Fellinger]

On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 11:03:33AM +0200, eduard bloch wrote:
> karsten m. self wrote on sat apr 06, 2002 um 08:52:50pm:
...
> >   - tar the partition to be converted to altnernate storage (if you've
> > created a fair number of partitions, you can "park" it elsewhere --
> > e.g.:  /home or /usr, usually).  for /usr, archived to /home:
> >  
> >  $ tar czvf /home/usr.tar.gz /usr
> 
> no. do not use tar with this simply call. you will loose parts of
> metadata, ie. directory permissions. Also note that there was a feature
> (I forgot which) that tar cannot handle correctly. Should not be a

FUD (IMHO)  He is calling tar as root, so the defaults are different,
no need to specify same-owner etc.  And that feature tha is missing is
the ability to extract hardlinked files by any name.  Only the first
name will work, but this is okee as the next name will only be linked
to the first, and that one is extracted if you extract all in one go.

...
>  --one-file-system -p -s --same-owner  --numeric-owner --sparse

Maybe --sparse and --one-file-system might be usefull, but I would
rather trust the names of owners and not their numbers to remain
the same over different debian distributions.  Ofcourse it would be
advisable to first copy/adjust /etc/passwd etc.


> >  $ tar tzvf /home/usr.tar.gz
> > 
> >...the exit value ($?) should be 0.
> 
> Don't forget to call this from /.

Yes, and consider using tar's -C option for this.

...
> >  $ cd /
> >  $ tar xzvf /home/usr.tar.gz

> Additional options needed, see above.

I doubt it, see above.


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Re: Procmail Rules for Debian lists

[Carel Fellinger]

On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 06:35:58PM +0100, Paul Sargent wrote:
> Hi People,
...
> The problem seems to be that not all mails from this list get tagged with
> X-Mailing-List which is what I'm checking on.
> 
> This is my current rule:
> 
> :0:
> * ^X-Mailing-List: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> * ^X-Mailing-List:  $DEBIAN/$MATCH

This looks quite similar to my recipe and I have to see my first miss.
So could you show the headers of some of those mails that this recipe
didn't catch.  I wouldn't be surprised when those messages didn't come
from the list after all, but are spurious copies that some send just
incase you wouldn't be subscriped to the list anymore:)


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wine

[Marcelo Leal]

my notes are running fine!
but i need one more thing... i need execute one remote command. how, can
i execute it? it is in a windows share, i mount it (by smbmount) im my
home...
here is the command:
\\NT_PRO02_NO_APL\DIRETO\DIRETOMAIL.EXE CN=NTPRO01/O=PROCERGS
pedidos.nsf 3BB96AFC5C48ACE503256B92006320B9

this command is in a .bat file, that i receive by e-mail. And i need
execute it for my notes... contacts...


how?

thanks.



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Re: keyboard friendly browser (was alternative to Netscap)

[Grant Edwards]

On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 01:09:59PM -0500, Paul F. Pearson wrote:

> I know that I sound like an Opera Evangelist, but I really enjoy the 
> browser -
> 
> It has what appears to be a pretty good set of keybard shortcuts for 
> stuff. You could turn off the button bar, address window, etc. and 
> probably be able to just use the keyboard for most things. I haven't tried 
> this, but I just may to be geeky :-)

The one thing that still bugs me about Opera is the inability
to configure the text-editing keystrokes. I am _so_ tired of
hitting ctrl-A to move the beginning of a field/line and having
it select the entire field instead.  Ctrl-P, Ctrl-N, Ctrl-F
also do various things my fingers don't expect.

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How to change default domain?

[Balazs Javor]

Hi,

During the first time when installing Debian and networking
it asked for the default domain name that is to be appended
to non qualified host names...

How can this be changed later?

Someone once suggested:
echo 'domainname' > /proc/sys/kernel/domainname

Is this really the 'official' way???
Also cat /proc/sys/kernel/domainname gives me currently:
(none)
Which would seem to me that thisis not the place where it
has been stored..

Many thanks for your help in advance!
best regards,
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Re: make install nvidia drivers

[Leonardo Canducci]

On Mon, 08 Apr 2002 21:53:48 +, Ben Farrell wrote:
>you might need to compile a kernel with agp support, try running the
>following:
>
>modprobe -v NVdriver
>
I will try. I thought modprobe was used to load a module but what I
see running depmod NVdriver is that the module cannot be loaded
because it has unmet dependecies.

>which should tell you what smybols running, but the output can be a
>bit
>cyrptic.
>
>I've got the Nvidia drivers (version 2880)

me too

working fine with a
>geforce GO
>using the source tar.gz's from nvidia.com.
>
>I am using kernel (2.4.7), with /usr/src/linux sym-linked to
>/usr/src/linux-2.4.7
>

I'm using kernel 2.4.18-386 with /usr/src/liunx containing 2.4.18 src
(common to every 2.4.18 version) and /usr/include/linux and asm
symlinked to /usr/src/kernel-headers-2.4.18-386/include/linux and asm
(matching my running kernel headers).

>Regards
>Ben Farrell
>
>p.s. I be very intrested to know where you got debian nvidia's deb's
>from ..
>
>Leonardo Canducci wrote:
>
>>I can't compile nvidia drivers. I tried almost everything.
>>1. tried to use debian nvidia debs, but they seem to need an entire
>>new
>>kernel compile to work (I'm not skillfull enough)
>>2. so I downloaded and extracted nvidia drivers from nvidia.com and
>>followed README instructions
>>
>>the problem is GLX did compile but kernel didn't. I get this error:
>>
>
>


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Re: printing colored source files

[christophe barbé]

On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 02:02:33PM -0700, Jeffrey W. Baker wrote:
> The tool you want is enscript. 
> 
> man enscript
> 
> or 
> 
> enscript --help-highlight | less
> 
> -jwb
> 

Thank you this is exactly what I was looking for.

Christophe

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Re: Procmail Rules for Debian lists

[Dave Sherohman]

On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 06:35:58PM +0100, Paul Sargent wrote:
> I'm getting quite a lot of messages dropping through my procmail rules for
> debian lists. I was wondering if anyone here had a good setup.
> 
> The problem seems to be that not all mails from this list get tagged with
> X-Mailing-List which is what I'm checking on.
> 
> This is my current rule:
> 
> :0:
> * ^X-Mailing-List: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> * ^X-Mailing-List:  $DEBIAN/$MATCH

I use exim's filtering capability instead of procmail (and I dump all
my debian lists into a single mailbox), but

if $h_X-Mailing-List: contains "ebian-" then
  save $home/Mail/deb
endif

seems to work pretty well for me.  I'll have one message slip by
every couple months or so, but not enough to be a bother.  Maybe you
just need to modify the regexes you're matching against
X-Mailing-List to be a little less demanding, although I would expect
that header to be set identically on every message...

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Re: make install nvidia drivers

[Leonardo Canducci]

On Mon, 8 Apr 2002 22:13:10 +0200, null wrote:
>
>
>Did you firts compile the kernel archive and then the GLX driver ?
>
>Best regards
>

I compiled kernel first. I ran:
make install
in NVIDIA-kernel-2... folder. But it returned me that error. I got
the NV driver in /usr/include/.../video folder even if I got that
error.
Running
depmod NVdriver
returns the same error. It should say that there are dependencies not
met with NVdriver and hence that the module cannot be loaded.

After that I ran make install in NVIDIA-GLX... folder, that worked
fine (returned no errors)
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Re: printing colored source files

[Jeffrey W. Baker]

On Mon, 2002-04-08 at 10:51, christophe barbé wrote:
> I am looking for a tool to print (= create a postscript file) C/C++
> source files with color highlighting.
> 
> I used to do that with xemacs (ps-print-buffer-with-faces) but no more 
> use it and would like to avoid it.
> 
> AFAIK a2ps doesn't print c file with color (but does highlighting with
> bold and italic).
> 
> I have seen c2ps which seems to not support color too.
> 
> Any ideas ?

The tool you want is enscript. 

man enscript

or 

enscript --help-highlight | less

-jwb


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Re: make install nvidia drivers

[Leonardo Canducci]

On Mon, 08 Apr 2002 21:46:15 +0200, Tobias Bengtsson wrote:
>At 19:20 2002-04-08 +0200, you wrote:
>>depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
>>/lib/modules/2.4.18-386/kernel/drivers/video/NVdriver
>>make: *** [package-install] Error 1
>
>When I get error messages like that, it's usually because I need
>to update the modutils packages.
>If you have the possibility (ie a nice connection to the internet) I
>suggest that you start using testing, if you're going to use the
>2.4.18
>kernel.
>
>Hope this helps,
>Tobias Bengtsson
>
>

I'm running a testing-woody 2.4.18 kernel with gnome 1.4.
I've got an ADSL connection and I run:
apt-get update
apt-get dist-upgrade
every day.
so modutils should be the latest one.
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Re: Procmail Rules for Debian lists

[Steve Juranich]

My rule is much simpler since I only subscribe to debian-user, but I use:

:0
* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| $RCVSTORE +Debian -unseen

(I also use 'nmh', hence the pipe to rcvstore).  My advice is to check on the 
TO_ lines rather than X-Mailing-List.

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Re: Alt as Meta Key in Emacs21 and XFree 4.1.0.1

[Sean 'Shaleh' Perry]

On 08-Apr-2002 Holger Rauch wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> I noticed that in Debian Woody the Alt key does not work as Meta key when
> using Emacs 21 under X (XFree 4.1.0.1). What do I have to put in my .emacs
> file to get it to work? (I was looking at the FAQ using Help->Emacs FAQ,
> but found nothing there.) Searching with google revealed:
> 
> (define-key function-key-map [f11] [?\e])
> 
> which I changed to "[alt]". Unfortunately, this didn't help. Any other
> ideas?
> 

on US keyboards the "windows" keys is meta and alt is alt.  Do not know if this
is true on German keyboards as well.


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Re: which getty?

[Grant Edwards]

On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 10:25:11AM -0700, Karsten M. Self wrote:
> on Mon, Apr 08, 2002, Grant Edwards ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > 
> > Is there one particular getty program that is typically used
> > for Debian systems (uugetty, mgetty, agetty, ...) ?
> 
> $ ps aux | grep [g]etty
> root   558  0.0  0.0  12840 tty1 SW   Mar20   0:00 [getty]
[...]
> root   564  0.0  0.0  12840 ttyS0SW   Mar20   0:00 [getty]
> 
> Draw your own conclusions.

Yup.  I had thought that the "getty" program was actually
mingetty and I was going to need to install another one for use
with serial ports.  I'm on the right page now...

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Re: Building a single user Internet terminal / Done!

[Shawn McMahon]

begin  quoting what Karsten M. Self said on Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 10:18:58AM 
-0700:
> 
> Not recommended.  If X quits abnormally, it will also restart.  What you
> want:
> 
>startx_command && shutdown -h now
> 
> ...which should only restart the system if X is exited normally.  If it
> exits with a nonzero status, the system stays up.

Stays up at a shell prompt.  It's a kiosk, remember?

Shell prompt == bad.  Restart == less bad.



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Re: Ok, so what's this MS Exchange crap? (was Re: Not read: ????????:????)

[Shawn McMahon]

begin  quoting what Karsten M. Self said on Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 10:16:07AM 
-0700:
> 
> My response has been to tell [EMAIL PROTECTED] to fix their
> autoresponder, and to suggest to [EMAIL PROTECTED] that the user be
> unsubscribed from all Debian mailing lists.  This post is fair notice to
> any subscribers sitting behind MS Exchange servers to ensure their sites
> are playing well with the 'Net.

My response was to set up a procmail filter to auto-bounce
"application/ms-tnef".



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Veritas Net Backup 3.4 Client

[John E Decker]

Hey all….looking for the Debian
agent for Veritas’ Net Backup 3.4. We’ve seen references to it but
can’t locate it. We’ve downloaded the client for RH, but it doesn’t
seem to work. Would certainly appreciate any help or links
for the agent.

    Thanks!

where's my USB floppy?

[Curtis Dean Smith]

Hello!

I just bought a new Sony Viao GR-311 laptop with the Vaio USB floppy drive. 
I am new to USB, and so am not quite sure how to access the floppy.  I have
a March mirror of Woody installed, and threw kernel 2.4.17 on.  Where should
I look.

BTW,  I also had to recompile to get the Frame Buffer support for X.  Is
this the right way, or can the pachaged kernel do ATI Radion Moble FB?

Thanks!
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Re: make install nvidia drivers

[null]

Did you firts compile the kernel archive and then the GLX driver ?

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Re: make install nvidia drivers

[Ben Farrell]

you might need to compile a kernel with agp support, try running the 
following:


modprobe -v NVdriver

which should tell you what smybols running, but the output can be a bit
cyrptic.

I've got the Nvidia drivers (version 2880) working fine with a geforce GO
using the source tar.gz's from nvidia.com.

I am using kernel (2.4.7), with /usr/src/linux sym-linked to 
/usr/src/linux-2.4.7


Regards
Ben Farrell

p.s. I be very intrested to know where you got debian nvidia's deb's 
from ..


Leonardo Canducci wrote:


I can't compile nvidia drivers. I tried almost everything.
1. tried to use debian nvidia debs, but they seem to need an entire new
kernel compile to work (I'm not skillfull enough)
2. so I downloaded and extracted nvidia drivers from nvidia.com and
followed README instructions

the problem is GLX did compile but kernel didn't. I get this error:





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Library weridness with ldd was Problems with Debian 3.0 and UT

[Ben Farrell]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


/me scratches head.

I think I am going to do a install of potato and upgrade
XFree to version 4.x and see if ut works ... 

Apt-get upgraded 30 minutes ago. UT continues to run fine. 

debian:/home/kevin# ldd /usr/local/games/ut/System/ut-bin 
   libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x4001d000)

libnsl.so.1 => /lib/libnsl.so.1 (0x4002)
libpthread.so.0 => /lib/libpthread.so.0 (0x40035000)
Engine.so => not found
Core.so => not found
libSDL-1.1.so.0 => not found
libm.so.6 => /lib/libm.so.6 (0x40049000)
libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x4006a000)
/lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x4000)

Did you us this installer: ut-install-436-GOTY.run?
If not reinstall using it.



http://mirrors.sunsite.dk/lokigames/installers/ut/ut-install-436-GOTY.run

Upgrading to XFree86 4.x is a good idea. 
xfree86-common 4.1.0-14 is in Wood/Testing.





Cheers for trying ldd, it could be because I manually
symlinked some librarys so UT's using the wrong ones. I will
check tonight.

yea, I downloaded 'ut-install-436-GOTY.run' and used it to
install from the CD. I will grab that copy above and try
re-installing.

Regards
Ben Farrell


More weridness with this, if I run:

ldd /usr/local/games/ut/System/ut-bin

from /lib it works fine, the output is as follows:
   libdl.so.2 => ./libdl.so.2 (0x40014000)
   libnsl.so.1 => ./libnsl.so.1 (0x40018000)
   libpthread.so.0 => ./libpthread.so.0 (0x4002c000)
   Engine.so => not found
   Core.so => not found
   libSDL-1.1.so.0 => not found
   libm.so.6 => ./libm.so.6 (0x4004a000)
   libc.so.6 => ./libc.so.6 (0x4006b000)
   /lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x4000)

But it seems that if I run ldd from anywhere else it fails ...

Anyone with more 'ldd' experence got any ideas ?

Regards
Ben Farrell






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Re: make install nvidia drivers

[Tobias Bengtsson]

At 19:20 2002-04-08 +0200, you wrote:

depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
/lib/modules/2.4.18-386/kernel/drivers/video/NVdriver
make: *** [package-install] Error 1


When I get error messages like that, it's usually because I need
to update the modutils packages.
If you have the possibility (ie a nice connection to the internet) I
suggest that you start using testing, if you're going to use the 2.4.18
kernel.

Hope this helps,
Tobias Bengtsson



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RE: Read: ÍøÕ¾±à¼­:ÄúºÃ

[Dave Scott]

Anyone know where these messages are coming from.

I got a spam notice for sending 4 of these messages out last night.

But I didn't send them, although the header says they came from my
computer.

Kinda lost here.

I checked for Viruses but none found.

Is Microsoft Outlook the Culprit here.


-dave

-Original Message-
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To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
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Re: Ok, so what's this MS Exchange crap? (was Re: Not read: ????????:????)

[dman]

On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 10:16:07AM -0700, Karsten M. Self wrote:
| on Mon, Apr 08, 2002, Eileen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
| 
| 
| 
| This appears to be an autoresponse generated by MS Exchange.  I've seen
| it on several lists in the past week.  Must be a new service pack.
| 
| Trustworthy computing.  Not.
| 
| 
| My response has been to tell [EMAIL PROTECTED] to fix their
| autoresponder, and to suggest to [EMAIL PROTECTED] that the user be
| unsubscribed from all Debian mailing lists.  This post is fair notice to
| any subscribers sitting behind MS Exchange servers to ensure their sites
| are playing well with the 'Net.
| 
| Anyone have any idea what's going on here?

Yeah, stupid Read Receipts, going to something other than the envelope
sender.  I think the original spammer "requested" a read receipt.  I
don't know how those work, but Netscape 4.x had options for that.  I
never saw it work when I tried it (a couple years ago).

I just added this to my filter :

if
$h_X-Mailer: contains "Microsoft Outlook"
and
(
$h_Content-Type: contains "application/ms-tnef;"
or
$h_Content-Type: contains "name=winmail.dat"
)
then
logwrite "M$ Lookout read receipt  =p"
seen finish
endif


I should find out how well it works soon.

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Re: mapping dell cpu to woody 2.4.16 kernel

[dman]

On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 10:35:37AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
| I would like to use a 2.4.16 kernel with woody. I have a dell with a dual
| processor chip set 860. What version of the precompiled kernel maps to that
| chip set?

Are the processors Intel or AMD?
Are they Pentium I,  II, III, IV, Celeron, Duron, or Athlon?
 586 686 686  686 ??   k7k7

(I think I've got them all correct, except for the celeron)

Go with kernel 2.4.18 instead.  The latest is (almost) always better.
I've got 2.4.18 running on both my machines.

HTH,
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Re: AW: debian on old notebook

[Mr. Jan Hearthstone]

--- Elizabeth Barham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I think it's a good idea but you might consider
> upgrading the
> laptop. I bought a 486sx 33Mhz for ~ $30US (200M
> HDD) a year ago and
> ran djgpp on it for a long time (I was on the road a
> lot). Eventually
> I installed a 16MB card, 2.1GB HDD, an ethernet card
> and linux and now
> it's my (test) LDAP Server.
> 
> I'm satisfied with it mostly because it's a laptop -
> that is, I can
> take it with me easily. While it's not the quickest
> machine around,
> it's still nice and I consider the $30 I spent on it
> (and the extras
> for upgrades) worth it. When I'm away from my main
> machines I'm able
> to code on it which is pretty nice.
> 
> Elizabeth
> 
> PS - the upgrades were via eBay.

Hearthstone:
Where does one get laptops as cheap as that? ($10.-??,
$30.-?).
Thnx, H.S.
> 
> > > I have few question. Most of time I'm at college
> and twice a months
> > > I go home for a weekend. I dont have computer at
> home, and sometimes
> > > I need to continue at my work (coding and
> writing articles in VIM).
> > >=20
> > > I'd like to buy some old notebook and install
> Debian on in.
> > > Right now I can buy i486 at 66Mhz, 8MB RAM,
> 500MB HDD
> > > for $10 US dolars.
> > >=20
> > > Is it good idea to try install Debian on it? Is
> it possible with 8MB =
> > of
> > > RAM?
> > >=20
> > > I need it just for VIM writting, man pages
> displaying, and Lynx =
> > offline
> > > browsing.
> > >=20
> > > What could be the way to install Debian? I'm
> thinking that easist way
> > > is to connect notebook with my computer with
> parallel cable and
> > > install from internet.
> > >=20
> > >=20
> > > Or should I forget it and save $10?
> 
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Re: fatal error: no screens found

[Siward de Groot]

 I unfortunately made a mistake in my previous reply :

Siward de Groot wrote:

>Modeline  "800x600"50.69  800  804  904  956  600 625 628 656 -hsync 
> -vsync

>  This might give you 50MHz/800=60kHz horizontal and 60kHz/600=100Hz vertical.

That should be : 50.69 MHz/956=53kHz horizontal and 53kHz/656=80.8Hz
vertical

Also, your monitor is limited to 75 Hz according to your config file,
  so better change the pixelrate to 46MHz. (-> 48.11kHz 73.35Hz)

I'm sorry that i proposed a modeline that Xserver cant accept.

>  Have fun !
> 
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libfop-java working

[m2]

I've been trying to get  fop to work for a couple  of days. I won't 
tire you with an endless tirade of all the error messages I've
encountered so far. 

Has any one got this working? If so could you please post the output of your
apt-show-versions, and tell me what unpackaged java related stuffed
you have installed and where you got it.

op

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Re: IPV6 things...

[Noah Meyerhans]

On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 06:41:43PM +0200, Markus Grunwald wrote:
> 
> Hmm. Where can I read something how to do it ? (I found no howto...)
> 

Subscribe to debian-ipv6@lists.debian.org
and see http://people.debian.org/~csmall/ipv6/

noah

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Re: No Internet Connection (DHCP)

[Brian W. Carver]

I finally got my entire home lan on the internet.

For me the crucial steps were getting the dhcp.conf file figured out, 
having the correct /etc/network/interfaces file, and then the rest was 
shockingly easy if I had just known to do it first.  That is, to get the 
linux box "server" online I just had to apt-get install dhcpcd (note the 
extra 'c').  Then to get the rest of my lan online I just had to apt-get 
install ipmasq . Everything configured itself automatically it seemed. 
I spent days trying to learn all about dhcp and masquerading and really 
I was just two commands away from Internet Connection Sharing bliss all 
this time. (Getting the dhcp.conf file right is still really tough and 
confusing it seems to me.  Future readers backtrack in this thread to 
see what finally worked for me.)


Now I'm trying to make my HP Laserjet 5L work both on the linux box to 
which it is connected, and also with the other computers on the network. 
It seems to me right now that understanding how to make the printer 
work is more confusing or at least less documented than networking!  I 
am probably only two commands away from making that work too, but I just 
don't know what they are yet.


I've been to linuxprinting.org and have a feeling I should use CUPS. 
Right now I have lprng installed and when using gnome-apt (I prefer the 
gui interface) it says the cups package will be broken if I install it. 
My sources.list includes just the ftp address for stable (potato) 
files.  I've typed gs -h and seen that the ljet4 driver that I need is 
available to me, but just don't understand the process to make the 
printer say, print from mozilla when I click the print button.  I tried 
that for kicks last night and it printed like 50 blank pages, and not 
the web page I was on at all.


Printer help anyone?

Steve Juranich wrote:

I just did a fresh install of potato r5 on a new computer and had similar 
problems.  My problem was that the driver for my NIC (a netgear FA310TX) 
seemed to be buggy.  I built a new kernel (2.4.18) and was able to connect 
(and I moved right to sid).


Did you have any kernel upgrades recently? Or are you (wisely) not allowing 
apt to manage your kernel image?


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Re: keyboard friendly browser (was alternative to Netscap)

[Paul F. Pearson]

On Mon, 8 Apr 2002, Joe Heuring wrote:

> 
> I haven't looked at Galeon or really anything else besides Mozilla, but  I
> would really like to see a lynx gui type browser.  I don't want to see big
> mousy click forwards backwards, favorites type buttons sucking up real estate 
> on
> my web pages.  Something like 'lynx_gui -vikeys'  Is there any such
> animal?  Anything close?

I know that I sound like an Opera Evangelist, but I really enjoy the 
browser -

It has what appears to be a pretty good set of keybard shortcuts for 
stuff. You could turn off the button bar, address window, etc. and 
probably be able to just use the keyboard for most things. I haven't tried 
this, but I just may to be geeky :-)

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printing colored source files

[christophe barbé]

I am looking for a tool to print (= create a postscript file) C/C++
source files with color highlighting.

I used to do that with xemacs (ps-print-buffer-with-faces) but no more 
use it and would like to avoid it.

AFAIK a2ps doesn't print c file with color (but does highlighting with
bold and italic).

I have seen c2ps which seems to not support color too.

Any ideas ?

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Alt as Meta Key in Emacs21 and XFree 4.1.0.1

[Holger Rauch]

Hi!

I noticed that in Debian Woody the Alt key does not work as Meta key when
using Emacs 21 under X (XFree 4.1.0.1). What do I have to put in my .emacs
file to get it to work? (I was looking at the FAQ using Help->Emacs FAQ,
but found nothing there.) Searching with google revealed:

(define-key function-key-map [f11] [?\e])

which I changed to "[alt]". Unfortunately, this didn't help. Any other
ideas?

Thanks in advance!

Greetings,

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Re: which getty?

[Craig Dickson]

begin  Grant Edwards  quotation:

> Is there one particular getty program that is typically used
> for Debian systems (uugetty, mgetty, agetty, ...) ?

agetty, I believe. At least, "man getty" brings up agetty(8) on my systems.
mingetty is available as a package if you prefer it, but agetty is what
you get by default.

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Courier-IMAP, useradd, skel problems

[Matthew Daubenspeck]

I am currently using squirrelmail and courier-imap for a webmail only
mail server and am having problems adding new users. I created a new
user and sent a test message to the account to which exim creates the
correct ~/Maildir directories, and delivers the mail into the correct
folder. However, when I try to login through squirrelmail, I get the
following error:

Preference database error (connect failed). Exiting abnormally

I checked with other servers where I use the same config/setup, and I
noticed that in the ~/Maildir directory, there are two files named
courierimapsubscribed and courierimapuiddb, which is not on the new
system. How can I create this?


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Procmail Rules for Debian lists

[Paul Sargent]

Hi People,

I'm getting quite a lot of messages dropping through my procmail rules for
debian lists. I was wondering if anyone here had a good setup.

The problem seems to be that not all mails from this list get tagged with
X-Mailing-List which is what I'm checking on.

This is my current rule:

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* ^X-Mailing-List: 

Re: system logs not getting rotated

[Mark S. Reglewski]

On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 08:57:44AM -0400, Rick Pasotto wrote:

> Somehow my system has the old init.d/sysklogd script and the new
> cron.daily script.
> 
> I just did 'apt-get --reinstall install sysklogd' and the init.d script
> did *not* get updated. Is that behavior correct? Do I need to uninstall
> and then install sysklogd?

That *shouldn't* be necessary at all.  dpkg-reconfigure  could
be your friend here.  But it only works for packages using debconf. See the
short man page for more details.

On my potato installation:

# dpkg-reconfigure sysklogd  # fails with error message:
debconf: package "sysklogd" is not installed or does not use debconf

In woody the same command works but does not ask me any configuration
questions, properly so because on my woody installation there would be no
differences between files on my brand new system and the ones to install.

> Is this one of those script changes that produces the 'use maintainers
> or keep your old' questions? 

Possibly.  Don't remember from my recent potato to woody flip; there were a
lot of packages for which I got these questions and I can't remember which
ones, naturally.

> If so that could be the cause of my problem as I usually (but
> inconsistently) keep the old. That question seldom gives any hint whether
> the new script has important changes or even if it's the same as what's
> already there. 

No, Rick, I don't think that's quite correct.  The question won't even come
up during package configuration unless there's a diff between the old file
on your system and the new maintainer's version.  When this question comes
up, you get a prompt to keep old, use new, or view the diffs.  If you chose
the last a pager screen comes up with the diffs presented for your
examination, and you can decide the importance yourself.  This works pretty
well for short files with few diffs, but I'll admit that a big file with
lots of diffs can be confusing to evaluate in the heat of the moment.  And
for a newcomer to Linux and Debian such as me, the significance of the
changes will often not be readily apparent.

Try reconfiguring your package and see whether logging gets fixed.  If not,
I'm running out of ideas here.  Since I'm new to Debian, there weren't a lot
of them to begin with.

Cordially,
Mark S. Reglewski


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Re: Window Manager

[Olivier K]

Hello Luca Pasquali ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) ;
On 08.04 (Monday) at 15:09, you wrote :

> if ya have some X programs that start when X starts see the man, I
> don't remeber how can be made from .xsession

I have this :

  xterm -geometry +30+30&
  xterm -geometry -30-30&
  
  # I *must* work on this, so...
  
  emacs21 -geometry -20-20 ~/memoire.tex &
  gv -scale -3 -watch -antialias ~/memoire.ps &
  
  # window manager

  exec wmaker

in mine.

the last entry starts with exec, so that when (in this case) the
window manager stops, X stops too.

Voilà.

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Re: which getty?

[Karsten M. Self]

on Mon, Apr 08, 2002, Grant Edwards ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> 
> Is there one particular getty program that is typically used
> for Debian systems (uugetty, mgetty, agetty, ...) ?

$ ps aux | grep [g]etty
root   558  0.0  0.0  12840 tty1 SW   Mar20   0:00 [getty]
root   559  0.0  0.0  12840 tty2 SW   Mar20   0:00 [getty]
root   561  0.0  0.0  12840 tty4 SW   Mar20   0:00 [getty]
root   562  0.0  0.0  12840 tty5 SW   Mar20   0:00 [getty]
root   563  0.0  0.0  12840 tty6 SW   Mar20   0:00 [getty]
root   564  0.0  0.0  12840 ttyS0SW   Mar20   0:00 [getty]

Draw your own conclusions.

Peace.

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Re: alternative web browser to netscape

[Karsten M. Self]

on Mon, Apr 08, 2002, Fran?ois Chenais ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Hello, 
> 
>   I'm under Woody and looking for an alternate web browser for replacing
>   Netscape.

Briefly:  Galeon (GUI), w3m (console), dillo or light (lightweight GUI).

For the longer view:

http://kmself.home.netcom.com/Linux/FAQs/browsers.html

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Re: Building a single user Internet terminal / Done!

[Karsten M. Self]

on Mon, Apr 08, 2002, Shawn McMahon ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> begin  quoting what Erik van der Meulen said on Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 
> 10:32:35AM +0200:
> > 
> > - /usr/local/bin/startkiosk only does 'startx'
> 
> Now make that script do a "shutdown -h now" after startx exits, and all
> you'll have to do to shut down is exit X.  Maybe.

Not recommended.  If X quits abnormally, it will also restart.  What you
want:

   startx_command && shutdown -h now

...which should only restart the system if X is exited normally.  If it
exits with a nonzero status, the system stays up.

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make install nvidia drivers

[Leonardo Canducci]

I can't compile nvidia drivers. I tried almost everything.
1. tried to use debian nvidia debs, but they seem to need an entire new
kernel compile to work (I'm not skillfull enough)
2. so I downloaded and extracted nvidia drivers from nvidia.com and
followed README instructions

the problem is GLX did compile but kernel didn't. I get this error:

cervellone:/usr/src/NVIDIA_kernel-1.0-2880# make install
cc -c -Wall -Wimplicit -Wreturn-type -Wswitch -Wformat -Wchar-subscripts
-Wparentheses -Wpointer-arith -Wcast-qual -Wno-multichar  -O -MD
-D__KERNEL__ -DMODULE -D_LOOSE_KERNEL_NAMES -D_X86=1 -Di386=1 -DUNIX
-DLINUX -DNV4_HW -DNTRM -DRM20 -D_GNU_SOURCE -DRM_HEAPMGR
-D_LOOSE_KERNEL_NAMES -D__KERNEL__ -DMODULE  -DNV_MAJOR_VERSION=1
-DNV_MINOR_VERSION=0 -DNV_PATCHLEVEL=2880   -I. -I/usr/src/linux/include
-Wno-cast-qual nv.c
cc -c -Wall -Wimplicit -Wreturn-type -Wswitch -Wformat -Wchar-subscripts
-Wparentheses -Wpointer-arith -Wcast-qual -Wno-multichar  -O -MD
-D__KERNEL__ -DMODULE -D_LOOSE_KERNEL_NAMES -D_X86=1 -Di386=1 -DUNIX
-DLINUX -DNV4_HW -DNTRM -DRM20 -D_GNU_SOURCE -DRM_HEAPMGR
-D_LOOSE_KERNEL_NAMES -D__KERNEL__ -DMODULE  -DNV_MAJOR_VERSION=1
-DNV_MINOR_VERSION=0 -DNV_PATCHLEVEL=2880   -I. -I/usr/src/linux/include
-Wno-cast-qual os-interface.c
cc -c -Wall -Wimplicit -Wreturn-type -Wswitch -Wformat -Wchar-subscripts
-Wparentheses -Wpointer-arith -Wcast-qual -Wno-multichar  -O -MD
-D__KERNEL__ -DMODULE -D_LOOSE_KERNEL_NAMES -D_X86=1 -Di386=1 -DUNIX
-DLINUX -DNV4_HW -DNTRM -DRM20 -D_GNU_SOURCE -DRM_HEAPMGR
-D_LOOSE_KERNEL_NAMES -D__KERNEL__ -DMODULE  -DNV_MAJOR_VERSION=1
-DNV_MINOR_VERSION=0 -DNV_PATCHLEVEL=2880   -I. -I/usr/src/linux/include
-Wno-cast-qual os-registry.c
ld -r -o Module-linux nv.o os-interface.o os-registry.o 
ld -r -o NVdriver Module-linux Module-nvkernel
size NVdriver
   textdata bss dec hex filename
 782946   52020   52396  887362   d8a42 NVdriver
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
/lib/modules/2.4.18-386/kernel/drivers/video/NVdriver
make: *** [package-install] Error 1

I'm running kernel 2.4.18-386 and I have linked /usr/include/asm and
/usr/include/linux to point to
/usr/src/kernel-headers-2.4.18-386/include/linux and
/usr/src/kernel-headers-2.4.18-386/include/asm
to get the scrip to work.

so what's wrong! I've been spending the last 48 hours on that and
probably it's just a silly problem...

plz help!

leonardo


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