X window cut-n-paste question

[Bill Moseley]

Ok, I have to ask.

What's the equivalent to windows, mark text to copy, Ctrl-C, move mouse,
mark text to replace, ctrl-V to replace?

I often find my self highlighting some that I want to paste someplace
else.  But that someplace else (like a Location entry for a browser)
already has text in the field.  So, I double-click to highlight, and
backspace to remove, but now I've replaced my original cut buffer so I
can't paste.

This is running KDE.


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How to *not* restore screen after viewing man pages in X

[Bill Moseley]

When I view a man page or run vi or nano from xterm or Konsole and then
exit, the screen is restored to the way it was before I started the
program.

This doesn't happen when not running X.  How do I disable this?  I like
to be able to scroll down in a man page, exit, and leave that text
viewable.

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Bottom of printout cropped, how to move the printable area up?

[Dongxiang]

Hello my friends,

I notice that the bottom of my printout is cropped when printing
forms or journal papers.   I need to shift the printed area up 5mm
of so.   The question is, how? 

I am using lprng and ifhp, the printer is a HP LJ1100.  I used
lprngtool to set up the configurations.  

I could not find anything in lprng configuration files.  ifhp.conf
does have option "topoffset" and "topmargin",  changing them have
no effect. 

Any ideas?

Thanks,

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Re: alternative web browser to netscape

[John Habermann]

On Tue, 9 Apr 2002 18:32, Tim Dijkstra wrote:
> On Tue, 9 Apr 2002 07:49:01 +0100
>
> "Phillip Deackes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Mon, 8 Apr 2002 14:22:25 +0200
> >
> > Luca Pasquali <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Galeon is the only substitute that I've in mind by now, links rox
> > >
> > > :-) keta
> >
> > Depends whether you do 'real-world' bowsing or not. There is no
> > browser in Linux which can correctly display all web sites thrown at
> > it. AFAIK Konqueror, for example, can't display secure web pages,
>
> That's not true. I'm using it for all my https:// browsing, although it is
> a little strict on what it thinks is a valid certificate.

How have you done that. I just seem to get told that https is not supported 
when I try to use konqueror (2.2.2 in Debian Unstable) to view https pages. I 
can't quite figure out how I am supposed to get the crypto working. View --> 
Security just tells me that SSL is not supported in this build of KDE.
I use konqueror for most of my browsing but always have to switch when I view 
any encrypted sites. In fact the only thing I can get my banking to work in 
is Netscape 4.77 and in getting True Type fonts to work all text in the 
netscape menus is now just little squares. Not that it worries me that much.
I would be quite interested in hearing what you have to do to get ssl to work 
in Konqueror.



> > ruling it out for things like on-line banking etc.. I need to use
> > Opera, Galeon and Netscape 6 to cover most sites, and Netscape 4 is an
>
> Unfortunately this is true, you need multiple browsers if you want to see
> everything (konqueror helps to give you a bigger range), but then you've
> also got sites that refuse to work with anything other than ie. That's only
> because there are a lot of worthless/lazy web builders out there. If you
> try it isn't really that hard to let something comply with w3c standards
> and to write a script that works on both ie and mozilla (and the sort). But
> it's a fact that most web builders only think ie. The one thing you can do
> is try to make the people who paid for such a site understand that they
> paid for a broken product.
>
> > Galeon is probably the best at the moment - but it has a way to
> > go.
>
> I personally like konqueror, but it too isn't there yet...
>
> Grts,
>
> Tim


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Re: kernel recompile takes the "work" out of "network"

[Greg C. Madden]

On Tue, 2002-04-09 at 16:32, Yury Sulsky wrote:
> I'm pretty sure that I'm using dhclient, that's what gets installed by
> default, right?
> 
> Actually thanks for you help guys, but recompiling the kernel isn't that
> important... I guess I can keep the default one until I figure out what I'm
> doing wrong.
> 
> 
> Thanks again,
> Yury
> 
> > On Tue, 2002-04-09 at 08:22, Crispin Wellington wrote:
> > > On Tue, 2002-04-09 at 11:49, Yury Sulsky wrote:
> > > > Crispin, thanks for replying.
> > > >
> > > > I checked "dmesg | grep tulip" and "dmesg | grep eth0", and the
> returned
> > > > lines looked the same as what I got with the default kernel. Besides,
> > > > wouldn't "ifconfig -a" not find eth0 if the tulip driver wasn't
> working?
> > >
> > > yes. true.
> > >
> > > > I also installed the dhcping package, which checks to see if DHCP is
> > > > working, and while it worked with the default kernel, there was no
> response
> > > > in the recompiled one.
> > > >
> > > > I've attached the config file for the kernel like you asked - you're
> > > > probably right in saying it's the config file, since I'm pretty new at
> this
> > > > and so had almost no clue what I was choosing when I configured it.
> > >
> > > It looks fine to me. Perhaps theres some obscure parameter that needs to
> > > be set that DHCP uses internally. Perhaps someone else knows exactly
> > > what? Somebody? Somebody? Bueller?
> > >
> > > What errors if any does DHCP give you? Can you run it under strace and
> > > see what its doing, or is it just silently (not) running?
> >
> > Is it just DHCP that doesn't work or is there other bits of the network
> > that are not working. Try using ifconfig to set an address and netmask
> > and to bring the interface up - then try pinging that interface. If this
> > works, the network driver should be working fine.
> >
> > What client are you using - i remember a little while ago that a client
> > that worked on 2.2 doesnt work on 2.4. I use dhclient and that works
> > fine. pump is also supposed to work fine.
> >
> > HTH,

I just had the same expierence, change, CONFIG_FILTER=Y
CONFIG_PACKET=y
# CONFIG_PACKET_MMAP is not set
# CONFIG_NETLINK_DEV is not set
# CONFIG_NETFILTER is not set
# CONFIG_FILTER is not set

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Re: Stuck: "EXT2-fs warning: ..."

[Soren Andersen]

On Tue, 09 Apr 2002 09:54:45 -0700, "Steve Juranich"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> First thing, please use word-wrap on your mail client (including replies is 
> much easier this way).

Sorry about that, I didn't know (and haven't gotten any such
complaints before). My "mail client" is a Web interface created by my
e-mail service. I therefore don't have much control over how it sends
out wrapped text, I think, but let me try this and maybe you'll be so
kind as to tell me if it works better for you (I ran my text through a
filter I wrote* after composing it, and then re-pasted it into the
interface field). This is hardly a situation unique to me (i.e., S_*t
Happens ... in my case, because of my problems setting up Debian I've
been stuck on W98 for a long time... and many things are 'just getting
by' style instead of 'optimal' .. like finding a good IMAP email
client to use in a nice graphical environment). Also I've found it
necessary to cope with badly wrapped text to be quoted often before,
and so I'll post my filter at this msg bottom for anyone to use that
finds it helpful.

> Secondly, all that the kernel is saying is that it's time to run 'fsck'.  
> Type 
> 'man fsck' for more.

`man' is hosed on my Debian system. When logged in as root and I try
`man' or `info' I get "execv: permission denied" error. It seems
there's is so much that can go wrong with Linux...

   Thanks,
 Soren Andersen

  begin script inclusion, watch for miswrapping and low-flying
owls 
#!/usr/bin/perl

# ---
# "eml-quot" (c)2000, 2001, 2002 Soren Andersen, All Rights Reserved.
#  This program is available for use under the same terms as Perl.
# ---
use Text::Autoformat;
use Getopt::Std;

getopt('lrqp');

$leftmarg = ($opt_l)? $opt_l : 1;
$rightmrg = ($opt_r)? $opt_r : 72;
$opt_p = ($opt_p and $opt_p == 0)? 0 : 1;
$qsert = ($opt_q)? '> ' : '';
my @txt = map{$_= (/^\>/ and !$opt_q)? $_ : $qsert.$_;}(split qq[\n],
 autoformat(  join( q[], () ),
 { left=>$leftmarg, right=>$rightmrg, all=>$opt_p }) );
print join qq[\n],'',@txt,q[];
__END__

Sample usage:
bash$ eml-quot -q -r 70

 OR (for people working on 'doze especially):
bash$ [perl -S] eml-quot -q -r 70 |gclip
(`gclip' is a clipboard program available on the Net. Google it.)

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Re: pppd dial-in problems

[Crispin Wellington]

Are you using mgetty?

Crispin

On Wed, 2002-04-10 at 04:17, Grant Edwards wrote:
> 
> I'm trying to configure a 2.2r5 system for dial-in PPP access.
> The dail-in part works fine, but when the dial-in user starts
> pppd using "exec /usr/sbin/pppd -detach", the ppp daemon just
> sits there forever: deaf and dumb until it's killed.
> 
> Starting pppd from a ssh session works fine: pppd sends out LCP
> packets (logging them to /var/log/debug) and times out after a
> while since it gets no LCP reply packets.
> 
> Starting pppd from a dial-in port does nothing.  pppd prints
> nothing in the debug log, and the messages log looks like
> 
> Apr  9 09:44:18 debain pppd[246]: pppd 2.3.11 started by root, uid 0
> Apr  9 09:44:49 debain pppd[246]: Terminating on signal 15.
> Apr  9 09:44:49 debain pppd[246]: Exit.
> 
> [I have to kill pppd from another session]
> 
> I've tried dozens of combinations of options in
> /etc/ppp/options (starting with the values from the PPP HOWTO).
> 
> I'm baffled...
> 
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Re: MPEG video recorder

[csj]

On Tue, 9 Apr 2002 12:11:02 -0700
Tim Moss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  Apparently, on Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 01:54:06AM +0800, csj wrote:
>  > 
>  > NVrec with FFmpeg produces mpeg which only a hacker can love. IIRC when
>  > I attempted to demultiplex an mpeg-encoded capture (necessary, so that I
>  > can re-multiplex it to a VCD-compliant mpeg), the audio and video
>  > differed in length by more than a few seconds. Needless to say, when I
>  > multiplexed them back, the audio and video were terribly out of sync.
>  > I like to think of FFmpeg more as a decoder, used by such popular video
>  > players as xine and mplayer, than as a general-purpose encoder.
>  > NVrec with the mp1e (another real-time encoder) module looks more
>  > promising. Problem is, I couldn't get it to produce any output.
>  > 
>  > I settled on NVrec with DivX ;-) because it looks better at smaller
>  > sizes. Simple editing (more like splitting and splicing) can be done
>  > using avidemux .
>  > 
>  Did you use the patch to FFMPEG on the NVRec site. It's necessary for
>  the audio and video to stay in sync as far as I can tell. I can easily
>  record an hour long show that stays in sync whereas, without the patch,
>  recording would start getting out of sync after about 15 minutes.
>  Also, why can't you record directly to a VCD-compliant mpeg instead of
>  something else first and then converting it?

I was using Marillat's unofficial FFmpeg 0.4.6 (so it should have the
patch, no?). I don't notice any sync problems when I just watch the
FFmpeg encoded video. The problem is when I split or even just transcode
it to something else. It seems that NVrec does some magic to the video
to keep it in sync with the audio (or vice versa). I noticed the same
thing when recording to DivX. But then DivX is a final form format.

As for FFmpeg encoding to a VCD-compliant stream, I don't know. What
options do you pass to FFmpeg or NVrec?


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Re: Linux in Business---accounting packages

[Jameson C. Burt]

Sometimes users mostly prefer software other than that their employer
provides.  This is especially true among the technical elite who might
prefer LaTeX on Unix, while their managers give them Microsoft Word. 
If the employees mostly graduated in the last 5 years, 
they may well prefer some accounting package other than what their
employer provides.

Concerning accounting packages, while I don't know their quality, 
I have recently seen articles on software coming 
from the U.S. state of Ohio,
   Noguska's Nola
which is web based and GPLed, so they make their profit on support and
customization.  Such an outfit VERY MUCH WANTS TO PROVIDE SUPPORT.
Here is a link,
http://www.linuxworld.com/site-stories/2002/0225.xterminal13.html

The author of the above LinuxWorld article preferred Noguska's Nola 
to another accounting software, SQL-Ledger,
http://www.sql-ledger.com
 

On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 02:59:51PM +0100, Phill Gillespie wrote:

> Can anyone suggest good (commercial) software or at least point me in the 
> right direction?  I guess the other big factor is European focus?  Two 
> stateside products are Appgen & Proven but I would much prefer a UK/EU 
> based approach.



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Re: Netmeeting clone (not gnomemeeting)

[Paul 'Baloo' Johnson]

On Wed, 10 Apr 2002, Sridhar M.A. wrote:

>> Might I ask why you don't just try gnomemeeting? It's in woody, so it 
> isn't
>> like there would be any problems meeting its dependancies.
>>
> But it is quite old. The latest version is not there even in sid. The
> version in woody is 0.12 and the current version is 0.8+. Same with the
> other packages it depends on like openh323 and pwlib.

That and I don't like having fourty-thousand libraries laying around for
just one package.

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Mozillamailnews-snapshot problems.

[Rob Rati]

I tried installing the latest mozilla-snapshot builds on my unstable 
debian system, but mozilla-mail doesn't work anymore.  The packages 
install without a problem and I can run mozilla, but if I try to run 
mozilla-mail, I get this error:


the file 
/usr/lib/mozilla-snapshot/chrome/packages/messenger/messenger.xul cannot 
be found.


This file (and the directory structure infact) doesn't exist on any 
install of mozilla I've ever used (I was using .9.9).  When I load the 
browser, there is no mail icon at the bottom either.  Has anyone else 
seen this?  Does anyone know a solution to this problem?  TIA.


Rob

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Re: No Subject

[Jerome Acks Jr]

On Sat, Apr 06, 2002 at 02:11:44PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi. I am trying to print a letter I have translated from German. When I 
> print, each page is only about 1/4th of the letter, the rest of the page is 
> solid color. This is too much waste of  ink. What can I do?
> 
> Thank you,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Can you provide a little more detail on printing system you are using,
your printer setup, printcap file, and editor you are using?

A more decriptive subject line may also attract more responses.
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Re: gnome-utils won't install on update

[Sridhar M.A.]

On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 02:49:31PM -0400, stan wrote:
   > I trued to update my woody box yesterday, and ran inot a small problem with
   > the gnome-utils package. I fugured it was a intermitent thing, so I waited
   > till today, and trued agaain, still no luck.
   > 
   > Here's what I'm geting:
   > 
   > Do you want to continue? [Y/n] 
   > Setting up gnome-utils (1.4.1.2-3) ...
   > /usr/bin/scrollkeeper-update: relocation error:
   > /usr/lib/libscrollkeeper.so.0: undefined symbol: xmlLoadExtDtdDefaultValue
   > dpkg: error processing gnome-utils (--configure):
   > subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 127
   > Errors were encountered while processing:
   > gnome-utils
   > E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
   > 
   > What can I do to fix this? And does this mean that I should not try to
   > update my other machines?
   > 
I vaguely remember of having faced this problem. What I did was install
the new version of scrollkeeper using dpkg -i and then installed
libscrollkeeper. That solved the problem. Maybe it is a bug as apt-get
is supposed to handle such dependencies.

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Re: Netmeeting clone (not gnomemeeting)

[Sridhar M.A.]

On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 10:43:11AM -0400, David Roundy wrote:
   > On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 08:05:53PM -0700, Paul 'Baloo' Johnson wrote:
   > > I'm looking for a netmeeting clone that doesn't have the fourty-thousand
   > > dependancies that gnomemeeting does.  Does this exist?
   > 
   > Might I ask why you don't just try gnomemeeting? It's in woody, so it isn't
   > like there would be any problems meeting its dependancies.
   > 
But it is quite old. The latest version is not there even in sid. The
version in woody is 0.12 and the current version is 0.8+. Same with the
other packages it depends on like openh323 and pwlib.

Regards,

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Re: .config file for kernel?

[Grant Edwards]

On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 05:38:04PM -0700, Brian W. Carver wrote:

> Potato probably supports your network card/modem.  

Yup, it does.

> If you get potato on the internet, (without configuring anything else that
> is troublesome) then it is a very simple thing to upgrade to woody with
> apt-get.  Then you could configure everything else on your system.  Debian
> is very flexible as regards upgrades.  Do you have some reason to believe
> that you have hardware only supported in woody?

The text-mode console support (or more likely the chipset) is buggy, so text
consoles are difficult to use.  I don't plan on running X, since I'm trying
to stay under 100M of disk space).  The only work-around that I'm aware of
is to use the VGA frame buffer console driver (which isn't enabled in
Potato's kernels AFAICT).

At first glance it appears that USB doesn't work either, but I haven't spent
much time messing with that.

I'm not sure about PCMCIA, since I haven't tested it yet.

Potato also doesn't support my multi-port serial board, but it isn't in
Woody either (no surprise, it's an engieering prototype).  I'd rather just
skip working on the 2.2 kernel support for that and go right to 2.4.

I figure I might as well upgrade now before I invest a lot of time tweaking
stuff which may or may not need re-tweaking when I upgrade to Woody and a
2.4 kernel.

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Re: Woody: Apache SSL not starting

[Tom Cook]

On  0, Holger Rauch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[snip]
> So I did a "netstat -avi | grep 443" but that yielded nothing. So there is
> no program that opened a socket on port 443 as the apache-ssl logs
> suggest.

You seem to have made a couple of silly mistakes here.

netstat's -i switch is documented as 'display interface table' which
is not what you are trying to do.  On my system:

# netstat -avi
Kernel Interface table
Iface   MTU Met   RX-OK RX-ERR RX-DRP RX-OVR   TX-OK TX-ERR TX-DRP TX-OVR Flg
eth0   1500   022448895  0  0  0 2519734  0  0 0 BMRU
lo16436   0  711339  0  0  0  711339  0  0 0 LRU

which is not what you are trying to grep.  What you were trying to do
is this:

# netstat -a | grep 443

which also would not have worked, since you probably have 443 mapped
to https in /etc/services.  So what you really wanted was this:

# netstat -a | grep https
tcp0  0 *:https *:*  LISTEN

is that what you were looking for?  Even more likely what you wanted
was this:

# lsof -i | grep https
apache-ss   444 root   16u  IPv4  220292   TCP *:https (LISTEN)
apache-ss 30808 root   16u  IPv4  220292   TCP *:https (LISTEN)
apache-ss 30809 root   16u  IPv4  220292   TCP *:https (LISTEN)
apache-ss 30810 root   16u  IPv4  220292   TCP *:https (LISTEN)
apache-ss 30811 root   16u  IPv4  220292   TCP *:https (LISTEN)
apache-ss 30812 root   16u  IPv4  220292   TCP *:https (LISTEN)

which tells me that I have apache-ssl listening on this port, but I
suspect that it would tell you that you have something else
listening... maybe apache was already configured to listen there?

Tom
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Re: .config file for kernel?

[Brian W. Carver]

Potato probably supports your network card/modem.  If you get potato on the
internet, (without configuring anything else that is troublesome) then it is a
very simple thing to upgrade to woody with apt-get.  Then you could configure
everything else on your system.  Debian is very flexible as regards upgrades.  
Do
you have some reason to believe that you have hardware only supported in woody?

Grant Edwards wrote:

> On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 04:56:04PM -0500, Brooks R. Robinson wrote:
> > | I expected the config file to be in the kernel sources package
> > | (RedHat habit).  Now that Woody is due out soon, I think I'm
> > | going to scrap my 2.2r5 plans and start over with Woody.
> >
> > Why?  Just load up 2.2r5 (or is it 2.2r6?) and wait for the official release
> > or jump straight into Woody now.  (It won't hurt much.)  I am not familiar
> > with upgrading RedHat machines (except for a brief fling with Slackware,
> > I've been blessed with Debian, essentially "grew up" on it), but I am told
> > that it (RedHat) basically requires re-installation.  This is not so with
> > Debian.  Try it, you'll like it.
>
> I don't want to spend time fighting with getting the 2.2r[56]
> to support my hardware if it's already supported in woody.
>
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Re: kernel recompile takes the "work" out of "network"

[Yury Sulsky]

I'm pretty sure that I'm using dhclient, that's what gets installed by
default, right?

Actually thanks for you help guys, but recompiling the kernel isn't that
important... I guess I can keep the default one until I figure out what I'm
doing wrong.


Thanks again,
Yury

> On Tue, 2002-04-09 at 08:22, Crispin Wellington wrote:
> > On Tue, 2002-04-09 at 11:49, Yury Sulsky wrote:
> > > Crispin, thanks for replying.
> > >
> > > I checked "dmesg | grep tulip" and "dmesg | grep eth0", and the
returned
> > > lines looked the same as what I got with the default kernel. Besides,
> > > wouldn't "ifconfig -a" not find eth0 if the tulip driver wasn't
working?
> >
> > yes. true.
> >
> > > I also installed the dhcping package, which checks to see if DHCP is
> > > working, and while it worked with the default kernel, there was no
response
> > > in the recompiled one.
> > >
> > > I've attached the config file for the kernel like you asked - you're
> > > probably right in saying it's the config file, since I'm pretty new at
this
> > > and so had almost no clue what I was choosing when I configured it.
> >
> > It looks fine to me. Perhaps theres some obscure parameter that needs to
> > be set that DHCP uses internally. Perhaps someone else knows exactly
> > what? Somebody? Somebody? Bueller?
> >
> > What errors if any does DHCP give you? Can you run it under strace and
> > see what its doing, or is it just silently (not) running?
>
> Is it just DHCP that doesn't work or is there other bits of the network
> that are not working. Try using ifconfig to set an address and netmask
> and to bring the interface up - then try pinging that interface. If this
> works, the network driver should be working fine.
>
> What client are you using - i remember a little while ago that a client
> that worked on 2.2 doesnt work on 2.4. I use dhclient and that works
> fine. pump is also supposed to work fine.
>
> HTH,
>
>
> Shri
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How does 'compact' do it?

[Eric d'Alibut]

When I came into possession of a Micron dual PPro with a Symbios scsi
adapter and new scsi drive, I grabbed the "compact" flavor of 2.2r6
and easily installed Debian over a cable 'net connection. The compact
kernel boots nicely with LILO on /dev/sda; the only tweaking needed
was adding an append in lilo.conf: append="sym53c8xx=mpar:n"

Problem: I cannot build a kernel that will boot from the hard drive! I
am using the 2.2.19 source, and every custom kernel I have built fails
the same way; the boot dies - grinds to a halt - with no error
messages as soon as the "Ok, now booting the kernel" message appears.

These kernels _can_ boot from floppy if you make a boot floppy when
make-kpkg prompts you as to whether or not you want one. Hence the
Subject: line "How does compact do it?" i.e. how does the compact
kernel manage to boot off the hard drive when all of my custom ones,
even those that consist for the most part of compact's .config itself,
fail.

I'm getting ready to go the initrd route, but that shouldn't be
necessary, should it?

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Re: gnome-utils won't install on update

[Colin Watson]

On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 02:49:31PM -0400, stan wrote:
> I trued to update my woody box yesterday, and ran inot a small problem with
> the gnome-utils package. I fugured it was a intermitent thing, so I waited
> till today, and trued agaain, still no luck.
> 
> Here's what I'm geting:
> 
> Do you want to continue? [Y/n] 
> Setting up gnome-utils (1.4.1.2-3) ...
> /usr/bin/scrollkeeper-update: relocation error:
> /usr/lib/libscrollkeeper.so.0: undefined symbol: xmlLoadExtDtdDefaultValue

Have you considered filing a bug against scrollkeeper? If not, please
do.

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kernel version

[Vaughan, Curtis]

I just realized something.
 
After doing the apt-get upgrade my computer now has kernel 2.2 as the
default, whereas it used to be 2.4.
Why in the hell has it done this?
 
Is the easiest method fix this simply to edit my lilo.conf so that they
point to the appropriate images?
 
Curtis
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Upgrade > PCMCI failure (UPDATED

[Vaughan, Curtis]

I just did an apt-get upgrade on my laptop. There was a kernel upgrade.
Fine. But after rebooting, my PCMCI card is not detected. As I recall, going
through modconf there was a PCMCI module that should be compiled into your
kernel, but it’s no longer available. What am I doing wrong? How do I get my
card back up and running?
 
Thanks
 
Updated section:
Running /etc/init.d/pcmcia start I get the following error:
Module directory /lib/modules/2.2.20/pcmcia not found.
This is the case. Why?
 


 
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Re: pg 7.2 in woody (was Re: woody release)

[Colin Watson]

On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 06:15:33PM -0500, dman wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 02:43:43PM -0500, Colin Watson wrote:
> | You don't have to be an "insider" to know these things, just subscribe
> | to debian-devel-announce. :) Actually, it looks fairly good for early
> | next month; the worst problem I'm aware of relates to trying to get
> | PostgreSQL 7.2 into woody, and that's being attended to.
> 
> What problems are those?  I'm curious as I just started using postgres
> recently, and picked the 7.2 packages so I won't have to upgrade
> later.  If I can help, I'm willing to do it.

Unlikely, I'm afraid. It's a matter of making sure everything is
recompiled against libpgsql2, which is mostly just a matter of having a
developer or two do the legwork.

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Re: where's my USB floppy?

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Curtis Dean Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hello!
>
> I just bought a new Sony Viao GR-311 laptop with the Vaio USB floppy drive. 
> I am new to USB, and so am not quite sure how to access the floppy.  I have
> a March mirror of Woody installed, and threw kernel 2.4.17 on.  Where should
> I look.

Most likely you need to compile a new Kernel, USB

and please visit http://linuxusbguide.sourceforge.net/
there you find the information needed to get USB working,
BTW this answer is _not_ a RTFM :-) 

hth :-) 

>
> BTW,  I also had to recompile to get the Frame Buffer support for X.  Is
> this the right way, or can the pachaged kernel do ATI Radion Moble FB?
>
> Thanks!
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Am I the only one having gnom-utils problems!

[stan]

See my post earlier today.

Is no one else having these problems?

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pg 7.2 in woody (was Re: woody release)

[dman]

On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 02:43:43PM -0500, Colin Watson wrote:
| On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 08:38:22PM +0200, Raffaele Sandrini wrote:
| > I know i know... The release date of woody isn't specified. But i ask the 
| > Debian insigders here if they can say anything closer... Don't say a date...
| > say a month or a season... I don't know anymore when the testing state of 
| > woody began :-)
| 
| See http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce-0204/msg4.html,
| which projects a release date of May 1st.
| 
| You don't have to be an "insider" to know these things, just subscribe
| to debian-devel-announce. :) Actually, it looks fairly good for early
| next month; the worst problem I'm aware of relates to trying to get
| PostgreSQL 7.2 into woody, and that's being attended to.

What problems are those?  I'm curious as I just started using postgres
recently, and picked the 7.2 packages so I won't have to upgrade
later.  If I can help, I'm willing to do it.
 
-D

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Re: .config file for kernel?

[Grant Edwards]

On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 04:56:04PM -0500, Brooks R. Robinson wrote:
> | I expected the config file to be in the kernel sources package
> | (RedHat habit).  Now that Woody is due out soon, I think I'm
> | going to scrap my 2.2r5 plans and start over with Woody.
> 
> Why?  Just load up 2.2r5 (or is it 2.2r6?) and wait for the official release
> or jump straight into Woody now.  (It won't hurt much.)  I am not familiar
> with upgrading RedHat machines (except for a brief fling with Slackware,
> I've been blessed with Debian, essentially "grew up" on it), but I am told
> that it (RedHat) basically requires re-installation.  This is not so with
> Debian.  Try it, you'll like it.

I don't want to spend time fighting with getting the 2.2r[56]
to support my hardware if it's already supported in woody.


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Re: debian hangs cpu 100 percent

[Shyamal Prasad]

"Quenten" == Quenten Griffith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Quenten> Well I finally got a "good" Debian install or at least a
Quenten> compelete one anyways and everything is working fine
Quenten> (only took three times trying to install it lol) But for
Quenten> some reason when I do anything such as untar a large
Quenten> archive or even ftp to my computer a bunch of files my
Quenten> cpu jumps to 100 percent or around that.  I have a 733mhz
Quenten> PC I have had up to 512megs of memory in it at times
Quenten> trying to figure this out.  It started with the 2.2
Quenten> kernel so I compiled the 2.4-18 kernel and am using that

You probably need to turn on DMA for the hard drives. Some thing like
'hdparm -d1 /dev/hda' should help. Basically read 'man hdparm'. The
things you want are to ensure that DMA is on (-d flag), multcount is
set right (-m) and I/O support is 32 bits if you have relatively new
hardware (which it sounds like you do).

Cheers!
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scanner gone again....

[dave mallery]

my epson perfection 1650 scanner was recognized and working under the
"woody upgrade from potato"  system that i abandoned last week.  (i then
got a very recent woody iso and spent the hours upgrading to very
current)... it's much smoother and forgiving on the installs.

now this again:

Linux version 2.2.20 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 2.7.2.3) #1 Mon Dec 
31 07:05:08 EST 2001
...
hub.c: USB new device connect on bus1/2, assigned device number 2
usb.c: USB new device connect, assigned device number 2
usb.c: USB device 2 (vend/prod 0x4b8/0x110) is not claimed by any active 
driver.
... last line is the only symptom

my unchanged /etc/modules:

unix
af_packet
3c59x
uhci
options scanner vendot=0x04B8 product=0x0110
es1371
agpgart

and /proc/bus/usb/devices:

T:  Bus=01 Lev=00 Prnt=00 Port=00 Cnt=00 Dev#=  1 Spd=12  MxCh= 2
B:  Alloc=  0/900 us ( 0%), #Int=  0, #Iso=  0
D:  Ver= 1.00 Cls=09(hub  ) Sub=00 Prot=00 MxPS= 8 #Cfgs=  1
P:  Vendor= ProdID= Rev= 0.00
S:  Product=USB UHCI-alt Root Hub
S:  SerialNumber=d400
C:* #Ifs= 1 Cfg#= 1 Atr=40 MxPwr=  0mA
I:  If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 1 Cls=09(hub  ) Sub=00 Prot=00 Driver=hub
E:  Ad=81(I) Atr=03(Int.) MxPS=   8 Ivl=255ms
T:  Bus=01 Lev=01 Prnt=01 Port=01 Cnt=01 Dev#=  2 Spd=12  MxCh= 0
D:  Ver= 1.00 Cls=ff(vend.) Sub=ff Prot=ff MxPS=64 #Cfgs=  1
P:  Vendor=04b8 ProdID=0110 Rev= 1.10
S:  Manufacturer=EPSON
S:  Product=EPSON Scanner
C:* #Ifs= 1 Cfg#= 1 Atr=c0 MxPwr=  2mA
I:  If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 2 Cls=ff(vend.) Sub=ff Prot=ff Driver=(none)
E:  Ad=81(I) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS=  64 Ivl=  0ms
E:  Ad=02(O) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS=  64 Ivl=  0ms

and yes i modified /etc/sane.d/epson.conf to reflect the usb scanner.

my copier has both feet in the grave.  the whole scanner project was to 
replace it so i can fill the grave.  i left r/h because of the above...

thanks

dave

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sorry for the mutiple posts & much thanks2 all

[j y]

Thanks everyone for the help with the 2 distros question. Thanks all, JY

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Upgrade > PCMCI failure

[Vaughan, Curtis]

I just did an apt-get upgrade on my laptop. There was a kernel upgrade.
Fine. But after rebooting, my PCMCI card is not detected. As I recall, going
through modconf there was a PCMCI module that should be compiled into your
kernel, but it’s no longer available. What am I doing wrong? How do I get my
card back up and running?
 
Thanks


 
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Re: Backup software and dhcp

[Alvin Oga]

hi ya

when was the last time you tried to restore the tape back to disk ???
( did it work ?? )

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i'd never use tape for backups of anything... other than offsite
archives for the lawyers...
- too slow... too small too unreliable ...
( too many chances for an ooopps...somebody forgot to change thetape )

free backup scripts..
http://www.Linux-Backup.net/app.gwif.html

c ya
alvin


On Tue, 9 Apr 2002, Adam craig wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> My first question is what are people using in the way of backup software ?
> I backup 80 Giga every night to a DLT 7000 and I'm using Arcserve from CAI 
> but I don't trust Arcserve 100 % (especially with this quantity of data). Any 
> happy/horror stories welcome (I need something that can run the 
> library/loader too).
> 
> Second question, can anybody tell me if it is possible to set up a dhcp 
> server on 2 machines in such a way that when the main machine goes down (and 
> only when it goes down) the backup will automatically serve dhcp requests ? I 
> can see how I could do it with scripts,cron and rsync but if it's already 
> been done . . .
> 
> Thanks in advance for any suggestions,
> 


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Re: Procmail Rules for Debian lists

[Jorge Santos]

Jeff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Dave Sherohman, 2002-Apr-08 16:14 -0500:
> > On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 06:35:58PM +0100, Paul Sargent wrote:
> > > I'm getting quite a lot of messages dropping through my procmail rules for
> > > debian lists. I was wondering if anyone here had a good setup.
> > > 
> > > The problem seems to be that not all mails from this list get tagged with
> > > X-Mailing-List which is what I'm checking on.
> > > 
> > > This is my current rule:
> > > 
> > > :0:
> > > * ^X-Mailing-List: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > * ^X-Mailing-List:  > > $DEBIAN/$MATCH
> > 
> > I use exim's filtering capability instead of procmail (and I dump all
> > my debian lists into a single mailbox), but
> > 
> > if $h_X-Mailing-List: contains "ebian-" then
> >   save $home/Mail/deb
> > endif
> > 
> > seems to work pretty well for me.  I'll have one message slip by
> > every couple months or so, but not enough to be a bother.  Maybe you
> > just need to modify the regexes you're matching against
> > X-Mailing-List to be a little less demanding, although I would expect
> > that header to be set identically on every message...
> 
> Just to add to the list of choices, I use Maildrop...
> [..]
> 

To add up to the options, with gnus:

(any "debian-\\b\\(\\w+\\)@lists.debian.org" "debian-\\1")

Generates a different group for each debian list that I get mail from.

Regards,

Jorge Santos


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Re: URGENT "md" question: RAID partitions lack device nodes

[Alvin Oga]

hi ya ralf

if you are using raid1 mirroring... the assumption is that oyu want to
be able to boot from the other disk when one of the disk fails...
- make sure you partition it for "FD" RaidAutoDetec type... not "83" linux
( dont use cfdisk ... use fdisk instead )

what does your /etc/raidtab  look like ???

what does your /etc/lilo.conf look like if you're using lilo to boot ??

what does your "cat /proc/mdstat" look like ???

did you do raidstart and than mke2fs /dev/md0

c ya
alvin


On Tue, 9 Apr 2002, Ralf G. R. Bergs wrote:

> Hi there,
> 
> I need to operate two disks in RAID1 mode (mirroring.)
> 
> I've set up raidtab and constructed the raid (/dev/md0.) I've also 
> partitioned 
> it using cfdisk:
> 
> md0p5   Logical   Linux  
> 100.00*
> md0p6   Logical   Linux  
> 768.00
> md0p7   Logical   Linux  
> 500.00
> md0p8   Logical   Linux 
> 4000.01
> md0p9   Logical   Linux
> 10933.00
> md0p10  Logical   Linux 
> 2000.13
> 
> HOWEVER I can't mkfs the individual (pseudo) partitions because the device 
> nodes 
> are missing, and MAKEDEV doesn't know how to create them either.
> 
> What am I doing wrong?
> 
> BTW, I'm running kernel 2.4.17 and Debian "testing" (Woody.)
> 


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Re: No screen lock in Gnome

[Shawn McMahon]

begin  Jeroen Valcke quotation:
> 
> After a fresh Debian intall on a new machine. I noticed there is no
> 'Lock Screen' in the Desktop Gnome menu. Weird.
> 
> How can I get this icon?

First, make sure you've installed xscreensaver.

Then, if it's there, click on the foot menu, and go to Panel, Add To
Panel, Lock Button.

Odds are you haven't installed xscreensaver yet, or it'd be there
already.


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Re: Procmail Rules for Debian lists

[Jeff]

Dave Sherohman, 2002-Apr-08 16:14 -0500:
> On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 06:35:58PM +0100, Paul Sargent wrote:
> > I'm getting quite a lot of messages dropping through my procmail rules for
> > debian lists. I was wondering if anyone here had a good setup.
> > 
> > The problem seems to be that not all mails from this list get tagged with
> > X-Mailing-List which is what I'm checking on.
> > 
> > This is my current rule:
> > 
> > :0:
> > * ^X-Mailing-List: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > * ^X-Mailing-List:  > $DEBIAN/$MATCH
> 
> I use exim's filtering capability instead of procmail (and I dump all
> my debian lists into a single mailbox), but
> 
> if $h_X-Mailing-List: contains "ebian-" then
>   save $home/Mail/deb
> endif
> 
> seems to work pretty well for me.  I'll have one message slip by
> every couple months or so, but not enough to be a bother.  Maybe you
> just need to modify the regexes you're matching against
> X-Mailing-List to be a little less demanding, although I would expect
> that header to be set identically on every message...

Just to add to the list of choices, I use Maildrop...


# Maildrop filters file
# This file belongs at $HOME/.mailfilter

MAILBOX="$HOME/Mail"
MAILDIR="/var/spool/mail"
DEFAULT="$HOME/Mail"

logfile $HOME/.maildroplog

##
## Distribution Lists mail
##
if ( /^(To|Cc):[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ )
{
to $MAILBOX/deb-user
}

if ( /^(To|Cc):[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ )
{
to $MAILBOX/deb-laptop
}

if ( /^(To|Cc):[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ )
{
to $MAILBOX/deb-security
}


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Re: .config file for kernel?

[Shawn McMahon]

begin  Brooks R. Robinson quotation:
> 
> I've been blessed with Debian, essentially "grew up" on it), but I am told
> that it (RedHat) basically requires re-installation.  This is not so with

While I agree that he should use Debian, and that it's really easy to
install if you have a modicum of Linux knowledge (or even if you don't,
if you use tasksel and don't dick with dselect), RedHat upgrades are not
as bad as you've been told.  It does require rebooting with an install
disk, but packages are upgraded in-place just swell.

My current mail server is RedHat, and has gone through several upgrades 
from 5.1 to 7.2, skipping several releases in between, but the upgrades 
have gone pretty smoothly.  The only problem I've had is when I had 
Ximian GNOME on a workstation on 7.0 and wanted to upgrade to 7.1, and 
that was solved by something along the lines of 

rpm -e `rpm -qa | grep helixcode`

...since it was Helixcode GNOME back then.  I've stayed away from Ximian
GNOME since then, and everything's peachy.


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Re: .config file for kernel?

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On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 04:56:04PM -0500, Brooks R. Robinson wrote:
> I am told that it (RedHat) basically requires re-installation.

Yup, I always had to burn ISO's whenever they had a new release.
The upgrade itself wasn't too painful, but I never found a way
to do it over the Internet. I saw my Dad do a dist-upgrade with
APT and thought, "Why am I still spending a night to upgrade distros
when I could do it automatically in 20 minutes?" Plus, new versions
of applications show up in unstable much, much faster than they make 
it into Redhat.

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Re: dhcp for servers

[Shawn McMahon]

begin  Andy Wettstein quotation:
> server's mac address).  there are concerns, though, about introducing
> another dependency into the mix.  i was wondering if anyone here has
> any comments or experiences with dhcp and servers?

I don't recommend it for servers.  It's great for clients, especially if
you might need to renumber for some reason.

For servers, however, you introduce MULTIPLE new points of failure, not
just one.  If the DHCP server is unavailable, or there is a network
problem anywhere along the route, you have a potential problem that will
likely manifest as servers suddenly "dropping off the network" unless
you are monitoring things very closely.

Don't use DHCP for servers; it'll all come to tears, mark my words.

This message posted from my email server, which uses DHCP for it's
net-facing address...  :-)


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RE: .config file for kernel?

[Brooks R. Robinson]

| I expected the config file to be in the kernel sources package
| (RedHat habit).  Now that Woody is due out soon, I think I'm
| going to scrap my 2.2r5 plans and start over with Woody.

Why?  Just load up 2.2r5 (or is it 2.2r6?) and wait for the official release
or jump straight into Woody now.  (It won't hurt much.)  I am not familiar
with upgrading RedHat machines (except for a brief fling with Slackware,
I've been blessed with Debian, essentially "grew up" on it), but I am told
that it (RedHat) basically requires re-installation.  This is not so with
Debian.  Try it, you'll like it.

Happy computing...

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Re: Alt as Meta Key in Emacs21 and XFree 4.1.0.1

[Pete Harlan]

This will swap your left windows and alt keys, so you can use Alt for
Meta and (in wmaker and probably other window managers) the windows
key to switch windows.

1. Use xkeycaps to rearrange the keyboard how you'd like, and save the
   modifications in a file such as ~/.xmodmap.  Mine looks like this:

remove Mod1 = Alt_L
remove Mod4 = Meta_L

keycode 0x73 =  Alt_L
keycode 0x40 =  Meta_L

add Mod1 = Alt_L Alt_L
add Mod4 = Meta_L

2. Put this in your .xsession file:

xmodmap ~/.xmodmap

Of course there are probably a dozen other ways to do the same
thing; this works for me.

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On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 01:56:30PM -0800, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote:
> 
> On 08-Apr-2002 Holger Rauch wrote:
> > Hi!
> > 
> > I noticed that in Debian Woody the Alt key does not work as Meta key when
> > using Emacs 21 under X (XFree 4.1.0.1). What do I have to put in my .emacs
> > file to get it to work? (I was looking at the FAQ using Help->Emacs FAQ,
> > but found nothing there.) Searching with google revealed:


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Re: Unix(LF) files to MSDOS(CRLF) and vice versa

[Richard Cobbe]

Lo, on Tuesday, April 9, Daniel Toffetti did write:

> > > How can I use rpl (or any other suitable command) to transform the
> > > "\n" character between Unix and Msdos formats ?? rpl seems to be
> > > the right tool, but I can't figure out how to specify that strings.
> >
> > In the sysutils package, there are utilities to do this. Look at the
> > manpages for dos2unix and unix2dos.
> 
> #%&[EMAIL PROTECTED](*) !!!  I've been looking for unix2dos, but failed to 
> find it 
> in dselect and apt-cache search.

On woody:

[nanny-ogg:~]$ apt-file search unix2dos
sysutils

Richard


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Re: URGENT "md" question: RAID partitions lack device nodes

[Cory Snavely]

Unless something with raidtools has drastically changed and I didn't notice,
there is no such thing as partitioning an md device. Instead, you'd
partition the disks themselves, and then create RAID 1s from those
partitions.

E.g., instead of making hda1 and hdb1 into md0 and trying to partition md0,
partition hda and hdb in identical ways and then create RAID 1s md0, md1,
md2, etc.

- Original Message -
From: "Ralf G. R. Bergs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Debian GNU/Linux User Mailing List" 
Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 4:39 PM
Subject: URGENT "md" question: RAID partitions lack device nodes


> Hi there,
>
> I need to operate two disks in RAID1 mode (mirroring.)
>
> I've set up raidtab and constructed the raid (/dev/md0.) I've also
partitioned
> it using cfdisk:
>
> md0p5   Logical   Linux
100.00*
> md0p6   Logical   Linux
768.00
> md0p7   Logical   Linux
500.00
> md0p8   Logical   Linux
4000.01
> md0p9   Logical   Linux
10933.00
> md0p10  Logical   Linux
2000.13
>
> HOWEVER I can't mkfs the individual (pseudo) partitions because the device
nodes
> are missing, and MAKEDEV doesn't know how to create them either.
>
> What am I doing wrong?
>
> BTW, I'm running kernel 2.4.17 and Debian "testing" (Woody.)
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ralf
>
>
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Re: No screen lock in Gnome

[Andy Wettstein]

did you install xscreensaver and xscreensaver-gnome?

On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 10:32:04PM +0200, Jeroen Valcke wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> After a fresh Debian intall on a new machine. I noticed there is no
> 'Lock Screen' in the Desktop Gnome menu. Weird.
> 
> How can I get this icon?
> 
> Thanks in advance
> regards,
> 
> -Jeroen-
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Re: fakeroot

[Seneca Cunningham]

Sean Perry wrote:
> On 09-Apr-2002 Theo Bierman wrote:
> > Hi All
> >
> > I am trying to build a .deb package using fakeroot from any *.tgz
file. And I
> > kepe on getting :
> >
> > fakeroot debian/rules binary
> > dh_testdir
> > make: dh_testdir: Command not found
> > make: *** [thread-stamp] Error 127
> >
> > Any ideas
>
> quick hint, look in the debian/control file of the package you want to
build.
> There is likely a line "Build-Depends".  make sure you install every
package in
> that list.

Is debhelper installed? dh_testdir is in the package debhelper.

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Re: Ok, so what's this MS Exchange crap? (was Re: Not read: ????????:????)

[Paul 'Baloo' Johnson]

On Tue, 9 Apr 2002, Shawn McMahon wrote:

> Feel free to substitute wording of less or more civility, but remember;
> no amount of profanity will educate someone who thinks Lookout is an
> Internet mailer.

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Re: .config file for kernel?

[Grant Edwards]

On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 01:10:52PM -0700, Andrew Agno wrote:
> Grant Edwards writes:
>  > On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 02:46:52PM -0400, Scott Henson wrote:
>  > >
>  > > > Where can I find the .config files for the kernel image
>  > > > installed by the normal Debian install process?
>  > >
>  > > /boot/config-2.4.17-bf2.4
>  > > or whatever kernel you are running.
>  > 
>  > Thanks.  It's pretty obvious once somebody points it out.
> 
> The first few times I looked for the config, I grabbed the
> kernel-headers, which has them in /usr/share/doc/kernel-headers..., I
> believe.  I'm surprised it isn't in /usr/share/doc/kernel-image

I expected the config file to be in the kernel sources package
(RedHat habit).  Now that Woody is due out soon, I think I'm
going to scrap my 2.2r5 plans and start over with Woody. 

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URGENT "md" question: RAID partitions lack device nodes

[Ralf G. R. Bergs]

Hi there,

I need to operate two disks in RAID1 mode (mirroring.)

I've set up raidtab and constructed the raid (/dev/md0.) I've also partitioned 
it using cfdisk:

md0p5   Logical   Linux  100.00*
md0p6   Logical   Linux  768.00
md0p7   Logical   Linux  500.00
md0p8   Logical   Linux 4000.01
md0p9   Logical   Linux10933.00
md0p10  Logical   Linux 2000.13

HOWEVER I can't mkfs the individual (pseudo) partitions because the device 
nodes 
are missing, and MAKEDEV doesn't know how to create them either.

What am I doing wrong?

BTW, I'm running kernel 2.4.17 and Debian "testing" (Woody.)

Thanks,

Ralf


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Re: good day.

[Shawn McMahon]

begin  Karsten M. Self quotation:
> 
> Also, specifically for Nigeria/419 scams and variants:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Add the subject "No loss, for your records only" if you haven't lost
> money yet.

Just like Treasury, to make it JUST difficult enough that people won't
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No screen lock in Gnome

[Jeroen Valcke]

Hello,

After a fresh Debian intall on a new machine. I noticed there is no
'Lock Screen' in the Desktop Gnome menu. Weird.

How can I get this icon?

Thanks in advance
regards,

-Jeroen-

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Re: 2 disros

[Joey Hess]

Patrick Kirk wrote:
> If you have a spare partition try this...its just be written and the
> author is looking for feedback.
> 
> http://kmself.home.netcom.com/Linux/FAQs/DebianChrootInstall.html

That will work, but it is specific to potato. The points that change in
woody are:

1. You must use debootstrap instread of a base tarball.
2. s/dpkg-reconfigure base-config/base-config/

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setmixer broken in unstable

[Josh McKinney]

I am having troubles with the setmixer package in sid.  No matter what I try to 
do, be it
apt-get reinstall, or dpkg --force-all install, remove, etc.  It gives me the 
same error.

dpkg: warning - old pre-removal script returned error exit status 1
dpkg - trying script from the new package instead ...
dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/setmixer_27DEC94-6_i386.deb 
(--unpack):
 subprocess new pre-removal script returned error exit status 1
dpkg: error while cleaning up:
 subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
Errors were encountered while processing:
 /var/cache/apt/archives/setmixer_27DEC94-6_i386.deb
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)

Is there any way I can fix this?

Thanks,
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Re: Bandwidth Monitor

[Shawn McMahon]

begin  Alan Poulton quotation:
> 
> Thank you to both Matthew Daubenspeck and Nik Butler for your responses.
> MRTG does look like an additional tool I'd like to have, but what I'm
> really looking for right now it a way to see total bandwidth used, in MB
> or GB if it gets that high and for both uploading and downloading.

ifconfig will show you that.  It's cumulative, so either take the
interface down and up before you want to start, or write down the
numbers.


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dhcp for servers

[Andy Wettstein]

this isn't debian specific, but we are considering using dhcp to assign
addresses for our servers (as well as users).  right now we have around
25-30 server, and that number is growing, and i think it would be easier
to just move things to dhcp (using static assignments based on the
server's mac address).  there are concerns, though, about introducing
another dependency into the mix.  i was wondering if anyone here has
any comments or experiences with dhcp and servers?

later
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Re: .config file for kernel?

[Andrew Agno]

Grant Edwards writes:
 > On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 02:46:52PM -0400, Scott Henson wrote:
 > >
 > > > Where can I find the .config files for the kernel image
 > > > installed by the normal Debian install process?
 > >
 > > /boot/config-2.4.17-bf2.4
 > > or whatever kernel you are running.
 > 
 > Thanks.  It's pretty obvious once somebody points it out.

The first few times I looked for the config, I grabbed the
kernel-headers, which has them in /usr/share/doc/kernel-headers..., I
believe.  I'm surprised it isn't in /usr/share/doc/kernel-image

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Re: alternative web browser to netscape

[Ivar Alm]

No clue about the Linux versions, but I use it on my Win machine, and it is 
a major upgrade. The Java support are more stable. Even the upgrade from 
6.0 to 6.01 was good.

It is definetely worth a download.
//I

At 18:14 2002-04-09, François Chenais wrote:

Thanks a lot all

Is the last opera (6beta1) better than the version 5 ?

François

On Mon, 8 Apr 2002 10:04:58 -0500
Grant Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 12:44:12PM +0200, François Chenais wrote:
>
> > I'm under Woody and looking for an alternate web browser for 
replacing

> > Netscape.
>
> Opera is the best I've found (though Mozilla is coming along
> nicely).
>
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pppd dial-in problems

[Grant Edwards]

I'm trying to configure a 2.2r5 system for dial-in PPP access.
The dail-in part works fine, but when the dial-in user starts
pppd using "exec /usr/sbin/pppd -detach", the ppp daemon just
sits there forever: deaf and dumb until it's killed.

Starting pppd from a ssh session works fine: pppd sends out LCP
packets (logging them to /var/log/debug) and times out after a
while since it gets no LCP reply packets.

Starting pppd from a dial-in port does nothing.  pppd prints
nothing in the debug log, and the messages log looks like

Apr  9 09:44:18 debain pppd[246]: pppd 2.3.11 started by root, uid 0
Apr  9 09:44:49 debain pppd[246]: Terminating on signal 15.
Apr  9 09:44:49 debain pppd[246]: Exit.

[I have to kill pppd from another session]

I've tried dozens of combinations of options in
/etc/ppp/options (starting with the values from the PPP HOWTO).

I'm baffled...

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Re: acroread

[Karsten M. Self]

on Tue, Apr 09, 2002, Marcelo Chiapparini ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Hello!
> 
> I am running woody and I need the Acrobar PDF reader. I can't find it
> in the woody package repository, however it is in potato (acroread
> 4.05-3) and in sid (acroread 4.05-5). I am quite sure that it was in
> woody too. What happened to it?

Use instead the free xdpf or gv readers, both of which handle (almost
all) PDF documents.

Adobe is the company behind the persecution of Dmitry Sklyarov and
ElcomSoft, under the DMCA, for pointing out and demonstrating the errors
in Adobe's copy prevention software.  Acrobat Reader is buggy non-free
software produced by a freedom-hostile firm.

Peace.

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Re: good day.

[Karsten M. Self]

on Tue, Apr 09, 2002, Shawn McMahon ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> begin  Paul Igeh22 quotation:
> > Attn:The President/C.E.O, 
> 
> When you guys bounce these, don't forget to CC: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]".  The
> Federal Trade Commission is cracking down on these scams, and they are
> actively seeking forwards.  Don't forget the headers, and don't expect a
> response.

Also, specifically for Nigeria/419 scams and variants:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Add the subject "No loss, for your records only" if you haven't lost
money yet.

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Re: Procmail Rules for Debian lists

[Karsten M. Self]

on Tue, Apr 09, 2002, Matijs van Zuijlen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 03:50:54AM -0700, Karsten M. Self wrote:
> > :0:
> > * ^X-Mailing-List: <\/[^@<>]+
> > $LISTDIR/$MATCH/
> 
> As has been noted[1] in another thread on the same subject on
> debian-devel: this is dangerous. Someone could just send an email with
> 
> X-Mailing-List: <../something>
> 
> in its headers to overwrite your file ~/something (and try other
> variations if that didn't work).
> 
> [1] See:
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2002/debian-devel-200202/msg02132.html

Good point.  I was concerned about that...

Since it's matching on X-foo headers, it doens't have to pass RFC
822/2822 rules either.

What's a good regexp that will catch characters up to the '@' then?

* ^X-BeenThere: \/[^.@<>]+

...will at least prevent the parent directory trick.  Is there a good
washer for something like this that can be put into procmail?

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Re: How is my network-card module getting loaded?

[Hans Ekbrand]

On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 03:30:05PM -0400, Craig Duncan wrote:
> Reboot back into 2.2.19, do an lsmod and i see 'via-rhine'.  No idea
> what is loading it though (it doesn't appear in /etc/modutils).  I've
> grepped everything in /etc/modutils and all the rc#.d directories and
> i can't find a clue as to how that module is getting loaded.  How??
> (I've got mostly a woody/sid system).

/etc/modules holds the modules that automatically loads at boot. Have
you looked there?

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Re: woody release

[Colin Watson]

On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 08:38:22PM +0200, Raffaele Sandrini wrote:
> I know i know... The release date of woody isn't specified. But i ask the 
> Debian insigders here if they can say anything closer... Don't say a date... 
> say a month or a season... I don't know anymore when the testing state of 
> woody began :-)

See http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce-0204/msg4.html,
which projects a release date of May 1st.

You don't have to be an "insider" to know these things, just subscribe
to debian-devel-announce. :) Actually, it looks fairly good for early
next month; the worst problem I'm aware of relates to trying to get
PostgreSQL 7.2 into woody, and that's being attended to.

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Re: Allow a user to shutdown

[Markus Grunwald]

Hi !
On 09 Apr 2002 15:23:34 +0100
Patrick Kirk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> I want my son to be able to shutdown the computer but don't want him
> being able to access my files.
> 
> How do I give him these privileges?

I use the sudo approach and am quite lucky with it.
Therefore i have these lines in /etc/sudoers:

User_Alias  SHUTDOWNERS=markus
# Cmnd alias specification
Cmnd_Alias  SHUTDOWN=/sbin/shutdown -[hkr] now
# User privilege specification
SHUTDOWNERS ALL=SHUTDOWN,NOPASSWD: ALL


You do this with visudo as root. Read the man page for sudo !

After you have done this, you can call shutdown like this

sudo /sbin/shutdown -h now

or make an alias
alias shutdown=sudo /sbin/shutdown sudo

Generally, sudo is preferrable for all things like that. You have great
controll and great possibilities.

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Re: woody release

[Joey Hess]

Raffaele Sandrini wrote:
> I know i know... The release date of woody isn't specified. But i ask the 
> Debian insigders here if they can say anything closer... Don't say a date... 
> say a month or a season... I don't know anymore when the testing state of 
> woody began :-)

http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2002/debian-devel-announce-200204/msg4.html

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Re: Elm missing in testing???

[Colin Watson]

On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 09:07:51PM +0200, Ralf G. R. Bergs wrote:
> I can't believe it -- Elm has been removed from testing?!?!?!
> 
> Any ideas what's going on?

http://bugs.debian.org/111792

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Re: .config file for kernel?

[Grant Edwards]

On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 02:46:52PM -0400, Scott Henson wrote:
>
> > Where can I find the .config files for the kernel image
> > installed by the normal Debian install process?
>
> /boot/config-2.4.17-bf2.4
> or whatever kernel you are running.

Thanks.  It's pretty obvious once somebody points it out.

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Re: Allow a user to shutdown SOLVED

[Patrick Kirk]

On Tue, 2002-04-09 at 15:23, Patrick Kirk wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I want my son to be able to shutdown the computer but don't want him
> being able to access my files.
> 
sudo allows me to configure it the way I want.  Many thanks to all.
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How is my network-card module getting loaded?

[Craig Duncan]

I've been running a 2.2.19 kernel for a while (every brief foray into
2.4 land caused me to immediately go back to 2.2).  Once again, i'm
giving it a try, though (2.4.18).  I booted into it and there's no
module loaded for my network card (which i didn't even remember what
it was).  So, while in 2.4, i looked around my 2.2 configuration for
some sign of what i was loading there and couldn't find anything.

Reboot back into 2.2.19, do an lsmod and i see 'via-rhine'.  No idea
what is loading it though (it doesn't appear in /etc/modutils).  I've
grepped everything in /etc/modutils and all the rc#.d directories and
i can't find a clue as to how that module is getting loaded.  How??
(I've got mostly a woody/sid system).


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Re: MPEG video recorder

[Tim Moss]

Apparently, on Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 01:54:06AM +0800, csj wrote:
> 
> NVrec with FFmpeg produces mpeg which only a hacker can love. IIRC when
> I attempted to demultiplex an mpeg-encoded capture (necessary, so that I
> can re-multiplex it to a VCD-compliant mpeg), the audio and video
> differed in length by more than a few seconds. Needless to say, when I
> multiplexed them back, the audio and video were terribly out of sync.
> I like to think of FFmpeg more as a decoder, used by such popular video
> players as xine and mplayer, than as a general-purpose encoder.
> NVrec with the mp1e (another real-time encoder) module looks more
> promising. Problem is, I couldn't get it to produce any output.
> 
> I settled on NVrec with DivX ;-) because it looks better at smaller
> sizes. Simple editing (more like splitting and splicing) can be done
> using avidemux .
> 
Did you use the patch to FFMPEG on the NVRec site. It's necessary for
the audio and video to stay in sync as far as I can tell. I can easily
record an hour long show that stays in sync whereas, without the patch,
recording would start getting out of sync after about 15 minutes.
Also, why can't you record directly to a VCD-compliant mpeg instead of
something else first and then converting it?
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Elm missing in testing???

[Ralf G. R. Bergs]

Hi there,

I can't believe it -- Elm has been removed from testing?!?!?!

Any ideas what's going on?

Thanks,

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Re: Apache + mod_ssl

[David Wright]

> If I want to use the mod_ssl
> [http://packages.debian.org/testing/non-us/libapache-mod-ssl.html] do
> I have to recompile apache?

No. You need to introduce the line
LoadModule ssl_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_ssl.so
into the DSO list in /etc/apache/http.conf (or maybe the install script
will do this for you -- I'm not sure) and then read the
files in
/usr/share/doc/libapache-mod-ssl
to find out what directives you need to include to set up an https site (I
know that the install script will not do this for you).



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gnome-utils won't install on update

[stan]

I trued to update my woody box yesterday, and ran inot a small problem with
the gnome-utils package. I fugured it was a intermitent thing, so I waited
till today, and trued agaain, still no luck.

Here's what I'm geting:

Do you want to continue? [Y/n] 
Setting up gnome-utils (1.4.1.2-3) ...
/usr/bin/scrollkeeper-update: relocation error:
/usr/lib/libscrollkeeper.so.0: undefined symbol: xmlLoadExtDtdDefaultValue
dpkg: error processing gnome-utils (--configure):
subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 127
Errors were encountered while processing:
gnome-utils
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)

What can I do to fix this? And does this mean that I should not try to
update my other machines?



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Re: .config file for kernel?

[Scott Henson]

On Tue, 2002-04-09 at 14:35, Grant Edwards wrote:
> 
> Where can I find the .config files for the kernel image
> installed by the normal Debian install process?
> 
> I'd like to tweak a couple things, and it would be nice to
> start with a known working configuration rather have to figure
> it out from scratch.
/boot/config-2.4.17-bf2.4
or whatever kernel you are running.

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Re: DNS questions

[Ricardo Fitzgerald]

> begin  Ricardo Fitzgerald quotation:
> > 
> > Thank you for your help and for replying. My 'domain.com' is a
> > registered domain (INTERNIC), and it's registered under 
> > 200.61.76.88, my primary nameserver is also registered as
> > ns.domain.com.
> 
> domain.com is registered as having the following:
> 
>Domain servers in listed order:
> 
>DNS1.DOMAINBANK.NET209.92.33.130
>DNS2.DOMAINBANK.NET209.92.33.150
> 

What ??
Hehe 'domain.com' means mydomain.com which is ermitagemontevideo.com 
too big too write ;) that's the one I have registered.
I just use the other as an example.

Regards,

Rick 

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woody release

[Raffaele Sandrini]

Hi

I know i know... The release date of woody isn't specified. But i ask the 
Debian insigders here if they can say anything closer... Don't say a date... 
say a month or a season... I don't know anymore when the testing state of 
woody began :-)
I want to setup a test Network wich is Debian based at all at my school. I 
don't want to use potato because it's horribly out of date ( i use woody at 
home). I then need some acurate woody CDs. There are some unofficial ones but 
woody changes each day so they aren't very acurate...

Is there another way to solve this in a good manner?

Don't want to stress just want to ask (i really don't want to use SuSE only 
because woody don't comes out)

cheers,
Raffaele
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Re: Re[2]: Bandwidth Monitor

[Peter Good]

Try ipac or ipac-ng.

apt-cache show ipac :)

Peter

On Wed, 10 Apr 2002 04:24, Alan Poulton wrote:
> Tuesday, April 09, 2002, 9:47:56 AM, you wrote:
> >> Has anyone had experience with ipfm, or can recommend another utility
> >> that will do what I need?
> >
> > Try MRTG
> >
> > http://people.ee.ethz.ch/~oetiker/webtools/mrtg/
> >
> > It can indivually track interfaces, and there is a debian package for
> > it in stable, testing, and unstable..
>
> Thank you to both Matthew Daubenspeck and Nik Butler for your responses.
> MRTG does look like an additional tool I'd like to have, but what I'm
> really looking for right now it a way to see total bandwidth used, in MB
> or GB if it gets that high and for both uploading and downloading.


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Apache + mod_ssl

[Matthew Daubenspeck]

If I want to use the mod_ssl
[http://packages.debian.org/testing/non-us/libapache-mod-ssl.html] do
I have to recompile apache?


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Re[2]: Bandwidth Monitor

[Alan Poulton]

Tuesday, April 09, 2002, 11:05:05 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 09:38:10AM -0700, Alan Poulton wrote:
>> I did a search yesterday on this subject and found IP Flow Meter (ipfm).
>> I tried downloading it and installing it, but when I ran it, I got an
>> error along the lines of "Error opening Linux RAW Socket".

> Did you run it as root? In Linux, the superuser is the only user who
> can use raw sockets.

HM! Good question. It would appear I wasn't root at the time because
when I just ran it now, as root, it worked. Now to make this work. the
way I want it to. HEH.  Thanks for the input.

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.config file for kernel?

[Grant Edwards]

Where can I find the .config files for the kernel image
installed by the normal Debian install process?

I'd like to tweak a couple things, and it would be nice to
start with a known working configuration rather have to figure
it out from scratch.

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Re[2]: Bandwidth Monitor

[Alan Poulton]

Tuesday, April 09, 2002, 9:47:56 AM, you wrote:

>> Has anyone had experience with ipfm, or can recommend another utility
>> that will do what I need?

> Try MRTG

> http://people.ee.ethz.ch/~oetiker/webtools/mrtg/

> It can indivually track interfaces, and there is a debian package for
> it in stable, testing, and unstable..

Thank you to both Matthew Daubenspeck and Nik Butler for your responses.
MRTG does look like an additional tool I'd like to have, but what I'm
really looking for right now it a way to see total bandwidth used, in MB
or GB if it gets that high and for both uploading and downloading.

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Re: Library weridness with ldd was Problems with Debian 3.0 and UT

[Ben Farrell]

Steve Juranich wrote:


More weridness with this, if I run:

ldd /usr/local/games/ut/System/ut-bin

from /lib it works fine, the output is as follows:
   libdl.so.2 => ./libdl.so.2 (0x40014000)
   libnsl.so.1 => ./libnsl.so.1 (0x40018000)
   libpthread.so.0 => ./libpthread.so.0 (0x4002c000)
   Engine.so => not found
   Core.so => not found
   libSDL-1.1.so.0 => not found
   libm.so.6 => ./libm.so.6 (0x4004a000)
   libc.so.6 => ./libc.so.6 (0x4006b000)
   /lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x4000)

But it seems that if I run ldd from anywhere else it fails ...



Just a guess, but check out /etc/ld.so.conf.  Is it possible that it contains 
a line with a '.' instead of one that has /lib?


Like I said, just a guess.


Just checked, and it doesn't have . in it. it didn't have /lib as well,
but I think ldconfig includes /lib and /usr/lib by default.

so its not that :)

Ben Farrell


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Re: MPEG video recorder

[csj]

On Mon, 8 Apr 2002 16:36:39 -0700
Tim Moss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Apparently, on Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 03:01:56AM +0800, csj wrote:
> > I'm looking for a software mpeg encoder that can produce synced
> > audio/video from a bttv-compatible capture card. I'm presently using
> > NVrec  to record DivX ;-) movies
> > from my VCR. But since DivX is largely a PC-based video format, I lose
> > the bragging rights to say, Made proudly by GNU/Linux.
> > 
> I use NVrec also (but with FFMPEG) with excellent results. Be sure to
> get the patch on the NVrec site to keep audio and video in sync.

NVrec with FFmpeg produces mpeg which only a hacker can love. IIRC when
I attempted to demultiplex an mpeg-encoded capture (necessary, so that I
can re-multiplex it to a VCD-compliant mpeg), the audio and video
differed in length by more than a few seconds. Needless to say, when I
multiplexed them back, the audio and video were terribly out of sync.
I like to think of FFmpeg more as a decoder, used by such popular video
players as xine and mplayer, than as a general-purpose encoder.
NVrec with the mp1e (another real-time encoder) module looks more
promising. Problem is, I couldn't get it to produce any output.

I settled on NVrec with DivX ;-) because it looks better at smaller
sizes. Simple editing (more like splitting and splicing) can be done
using avidemux .


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Backup software and dhcp

[Adam craig]

Hi all,

My first question is what are people using in the way of backup software ?
I backup 80 Giga every night to a DLT 7000 and I'm using Arcserve from CAI but 
I don't trust Arcserve 100 % (especially with this quantity of data). Any 
happy/horror stories welcome (I need something that can run the library/loader 
too).

Second question, can anybody tell me if it is possible to set up a dhcp server 
on 2 machines in such a way that when the main machine goes down (and only when 
it goes down) the backup will automatically serve dhcp requests ? I can see how 
I could do it with scripts,cron and rsync but if it's already been done . . .

Thanks in advance for any suggestions,

Adam


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Re: Stuck: "EXT2-fs warning: ..."

[Raquel Rice]

On Tue, 9 Apr 2002 12:00:49 -0500
dman dman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 04:45:15PM +, Soren Andersen wrote:
> | Hello,
> | 
> | Its my first post to the list. TIA for the help.
> | 
> | I am afraid my Debian installation is hosed, and I have no idea
> what
> | I've done. I have made SOME hardware changes to my multiboot
> | (WinNT/98/GNU-Linux) system. That's clue one. Symptoms of
> trouble
> | are that I get a kernel message at boot time saying "EXT2-fs
> | warning: maximal mount count reached, running e2fsck is
> | recommended."
> 
> In the superblock of your ext2 filesystem is a counter.  Every
> time
> you mount the fs the counter is incremented.  When it reaches the
> maximum mount count (which is also stored in the superblock) you
> will
> get a message like that.  A debian should run e2fsck automatically
> during the boot process.  If you want to run it manually
> (recommended
> right now), then boot a rescue disk (so that you don't try
> mounting
> the fs) and run
> e2fsck /dev/hda4
> 
> HTH,
> -D

You can also, logged in as root, do:

# touch /forcefsck

The next time you boot your file systems will be checked.  It
doesn't fix the problem of the counter not working properly.  BTW
... I've had the same problem on a RH machine for about a year now.

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Re: What are the "bf" varient kernel packages?

[ktb]

On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 01:19:04PM -0400, Curtis Dean Smith wrote:
> As above, what is the difference between the regular kernel packages and
> "bf" varients in testing?
> 

Read the "README.txt" -

http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/testing/main/disks-i386/current/bf2.4/README.txt

and the "flavors" section of "README.txt"
http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/testing/main/disks-i386/current/README.txt

hth,
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Re: configure error 10 with dpkg

[Andreas Grabner]

On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 09:24:22AM -0500, Kent West wrote:
> 
> Colin Watson solved my similar problem with the following:
> > Your debconf database is broken in some exciting way. Backing up and
> > moving aside /var/cache/debconf/config.dat and
> > /var/cache/debconf/templates.dat may help, although Joey may have some
> > more cunning solution.
> 
> You can find the entire thread if you want here:
> 
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2002/debian-user-200203/msg03185.html
> 
> with the final answering post here:
> 
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2002/debian-user-200203/msg03322.html
> 
> Kent

Thanks Thanks thanks !!


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debian hangs cpu 100 percent

[Quenten Griffith]

Well I finally got a "good" Debian install or at least a compelete one 
anyways and everything is working fine (only took three times trying to 
install it lol)  But for some reason when I do anything such as untar a 
large archive or even ftp to my computer a bunch of files my cpu jumps 
to 100 percent or around that.  I have a 733mhz PC I have had up to 
512megs of memory in it at times trying to figure this out.  It started 
with the 2.2 kernel so I compiled the 2.4-18 kernel and am using that I 
also did a apt-get dist-upgrade under "testing", and hoped that would 
fix my problems.  I first thought it had to do with a bad X config but I 
tried the untar of a huge file with out X running and my cpu still go to 
almost 100 percent and made the pc sluggish.  I am guessing I have a few 
bad packages out there and it will require a full reinstall of the 
system in order to get it to work right.  I have attached the output of 
a top also to see if anyone can see anything wrong with it.  Thanks so 
much..


09:34:03 up 11 min,  2 users,  load average: 1.92, 1.08, 0.59
63 processes: 60 sleeping, 3 running, 0 zombie, 0 stopped
CPU states:   3.3% user,  96.3% system,   0.0% nice,   0.4% idle
Mem:127260K total,   123388K used, 3872K free, 2660K buffers
Swap:   489972K total,10320K used,   479652K free,63672K cached

 PID USER PRI  NI  SIZE  RSS SHARE STAT %CPU %MEM   TIME COMMAND
 352 root  15 -10 85468  15M  1508 S <  26.8 12.8   0:19 XFree86
 474 quenten   16   0   776  776   652 R21.0  0.6   0:09 tar
 444 quenten   11   0 29916  28M 15156 S12.4 22.7   0:15 mozilla-bi
 404 quenten   10   0  6592 6324  5796 S 9.1  4.9   0:03 kdeinit
 451 quenten   12   0  8832 8580  7260 R 9.1  6.7   0:05 kdeinit
 425 quenten9   0 10088 9884  8252 S 8.6  7.7   0:04 kdeinit
 414 quenten   10   0  4068 4068  2936 S 3.7  3.1   0:05 artsd
 428 quenten9   0  7532 7248  6592 S 2.8  5.6   0:01 kdeinit
 423 quenten9   0  9340 9140  8204 S 1.6  7.1   0:04 kdeinit
 464 root  12   0   956  956   748 R 1.2  0.7   0:03 top
   4 root   9   0 00 0 SW0.8  0.0   0:08 kswapd
 461 quenten9   0 29916  28M 15156 S 0.4 22.7   0:00 mozilla-bi
 463 quenten9   0 29916  28M 15156 S 0.4 22.7   0:00 mozilla-bi
   1 root   9   0   488  488   444 S 0.0  0.3   0:00 init
   2 root   9   0 00 0 SW0.0  0.0   0:00 keventd
   3 root  19  19 00 0 SWN   0.0  0.0   0:00 ksoftirqd_
   5 root   9   0 00 0 SW0.0  0.0   0:00 bdflush
   6 root   9   0 00 0 SW0.0  0.0   0:06 kupdat



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Re: DNS questions

[Shawn McMahon]

begin  Ricardo Fitzgerald quotation:
> 
> Thank you for your help and for replying. My 'domain.com' is a
> registered domain (INTERNIC), and it's registered under 
> 200.61.76.88, my primary nameserver is also registered as
> ns.domain.com.

domain.com is registered as having the following:

   Domain servers in listed order:

   DNS1.DOMAINBANK.NET209.92.33.130
   DNS2.DOMAINBANK.NET209.92.33.150


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What are the "bf" varient kernel packages?

[Curtis Dean Smith]

As above, what is the difference between the regular kernel packages and
"bf" varients in testing?

Thanks!
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X/Gnome won't start properly

[Nick Hall]

I'm running XFree86 4.1.0.1 and Gnome. A couple days ago I did
apt-get upgrade (I was running testing) and it upgraded some
packages. The next day when I started my computer it started
into X and the username/password box came up, but after I
typed in my info the screen went black for a fraction of
a second and then returned to the username/pass prompt. If I
type in an incorrect password it doesn't go black and
immediately gives the incorrect login message so it looks
like the problem is that after it has verified the login
is correct, it tries to run whatever component of X or
Gnome that is supposed to and that is failing. I don't see
any errors in either /var/log/xdm.log or /var/log/XFree86.0.log.
Yesterday I dist-upgraded to unstable to see if any upgrades
of packages would fix the problem but they didn't. Does anyone
have any suggestions? Like where I should look to debug this?
If I saw where the problem lied in a log file I could begin
to figure out how to fix it, but as is, I have no idea what
the problem is, whether its in X or Gnome. Thanks a lot for
any help,

Nick


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Re: acroread

[Craig Dickson]

begin  Marcelo Chiapparini  quotation:

> I am running woody and I need the Acrobar PDF reader. I can't find it in the 
> woody package repository, however it is in potato (acroread 4.05-3) and in 
> sid 
> (acroread 4.05-5). I am quite sure that it was in woody too. What happened to 
> it?

At a guess, I'd say it might have been dropped from Woody because of
unresolved bugs. BTS says there is one "grave" and one "important" bug
outstanding, in addition to several "normal" bugs.

You can always install the sid version if you really want it. Personally,
I prefer gnome-gv or xpdf.

Craig



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Re: module: xfree or kernel?

[Matijs van Zuijlen]

On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 08:55:57AM -0600, dave mallery wrote:
> this message is at the end of my dmesg:
> [drm] The mga drm module requires the agpgart module to function correctly
> Please load the agpgart module before you load the mga module
> [drm] The mga drm module requires the agpgart module to function correctly
> Please load the agpgart module before you load the mga module
> bilbo:~> 
> 
> i presume it is referring to an X11 module?

No, it's a kernel module. On my machine, it loads automagically when X
starts.

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Re: Stuck: "EXT2-fs warning: ..."

[Twister]

Every ext2fs partition has some specifics parameters like the maximal
mount count.
you can set them using the tune2fs util.
By default the maximal mount count is 20. So after 20 reboots the system
checks your file system befoir booting. If a problem is encountered during
this step it's stops and ask you the maintenance password (the root one)
in order to fix manually the bug.
So in this case, just login and run an e2fsck manually :
e2fsck -v /dev/hda1 (or whatever you system partition is)

you can also check all you partitions .. just in case

when the checks are finished just type exit and go...

On Tue, 9 Apr 2002, Soren Andersen wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Its my first post to the list. TIA for the help.
>
> I am afraid my Debian installation is hosed, and I have no idea what I've 
> done. I have made SOME hardware changes to my multiboot (WinNT/98/GNU-Linux) 
> system. That's clue one. Symptoms of trouble are that I get a kernel message 
> at boot time saying "EXT2-fs warning: maximal mount count reached, running 
> e2fsck is recommended."
>
> I own 4 books on Linux (one Debian-specific) and I do not find anything 
> anywhere about a "maximal mount count." Can someone please interpret this for 
> me and tell me how I might go about fixing it?
>
> My Debian is basically a lot of Woody[Testing] packages installed on a Potato 
> kernel. My fstab does this:
>
> device  mtpt   fs type
> /dev/hda4   ->  /  ext2
> /dev/hda8   ->  /var ext2
> /dev/hda6   -> none swap
> /proc  ->  /procproc
> /dev/hda7  ->   /usr ext2
>
> And that's all. Seemingly I cannot successfully mount anything else once 
> logged in, either: not a new hd partition (like a msdos partition) nor my 
> scsi ZIP drive. The exception is I think I got a scsi cdrom mounted ok last 
> night. Otherwise I get an error message (which sez any one of a number of 
> different things might be wrong, and maximal mount count exceeded is one of 
> them).
>
>Hopefully,
> Soren Andersen
>
>
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> The makefiles which eventually result from using 'automake' 1.5x are 
> monstrosities. Sheer hellish madness. Several dozen targets, named obscene 
> things like "am_remake_your_mother"; utterly counter-intuitive, buried in 4 
> or 5 levels of indirection, swamped in a thousand lines of baffling, 
> migraine-inducing auto-generated superfluity. [These] Makefiles  ought to be 
> taken out and bled to death slowly, shot, burned, staked through the heart, 
> generally Buffy-ated to the maximum possible extent.
> -- Soren Andersen (me) in
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Re: Stuck: "EXT2-fs warning: ..."

[Steve Juranich]

> I am afraid my Debian installation is hosed, and I have no idea what I've
> done. I have made SOME hardware changes to my multiboot (WinNT/98/GNU-Linux)
> system. That's clue one. Symptoms of trouble are that I get a kernel message 
> at
> boot time saying "EXT2-fs warning: maximal mount count reached, running e2fsck
> is recommended."

First thing, please use word-wrap on your mail client (including replies is 
much easier this way).

Secondly, all that the kernel is saying is that it's time to run 'fsck'.  Type 
'man fsck' for more.

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Re: Stuck: "EXT2-fs warning: ..."

[dman]

On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 04:45:15PM +, Soren Andersen wrote:
| Hello,
| 
| Its my first post to the list. TIA for the help.
| 
| I am afraid my Debian installation is hosed, and I have no idea what
| I've done. I have made SOME hardware changes to my multiboot
| (WinNT/98/GNU-Linux) system. That's clue one. Symptoms of trouble
| are that I get a kernel message at boot time saying "EXT2-fs
| warning: maximal mount count reached, running e2fsck is
| recommended."

In the superblock of your ext2 filesystem is a counter.  Every time
you mount the fs the counter is incremented.  When it reaches the
maximum mount count (which is also stored in the superblock) you will
get a message like that.  A debian should run e2fsck automatically
during the boot process.  If you want to run it manually (recommended
right now), then boot a rescue disk (so that you don't try mounting
the fs) and run
e2fsck /dev/hda4

HTH,
-D

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Re: acroread

[Jeffrey W. Baker]

On Tue, 2002-04-09 at 09:45, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote:
> Hello!
> 
> I am running woody and I need the Acrobar PDF reader. I can't find it in the 
> woody package repository, however it is in potato (acroread 4.05-3) and in 
> sid 
> (acroread 4.05-5). I am quite sure that it was in woody too. What happened to 
> it?

A grave bug was lodged against acroread because that program statically
links zlib, and may be vulnerable to the zlib double free problem.

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=137997&repeatmerged=yes

-jwb


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Re: acroread

[Henrique de Moraes Holschuh]

On Tue, 09 Apr 2002, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote:
> I am running woody and I need the Acrobar PDF reader. I can't find it in the 
> woody package repository, however it is in potato (acroread 4.05-3) and in 
> sid 
> (acroread 4.05-5). I am quite sure that it was in woody too. What happened to 
> it?

Refer to the bugs page of acroread. It was removed from woody because of
them.

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  them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond
  where the shadows lie." -- The Silicon Valley Tarot
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acroread

[Marcelo Chiapparini]

Hello!

I am running woody and I need the Acrobar PDF reader. I can't find it in the 
woody package repository, however it is in potato (acroread 4.05-3) and in sid 
(acroread 4.05-5). I am quite sure that it was in woody too. What happened to 
it?

Thanks in advance!

Marcelo
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Stuck: "EXT2-fs warning: ..."

[Soren Andersen]

Hello,

Its my first post to the list. TIA for the help.

I am afraid my Debian installation is hosed, and I have no idea what I've done. 
I have made SOME hardware changes to my multiboot (WinNT/98/GNU-Linux) system. 
That's clue one. Symptoms of trouble are that I get a kernel message at boot 
time saying "EXT2-fs warning: maximal mount count reached, running e2fsck is 
recommended."

I own 4 books on Linux (one Debian-specific) and I do not find anything 
anywhere about a "maximal mount count." Can someone please interpret this for 
me and tell me how I might go about fixing it?

My Debian is basically a lot of Woody[Testing] packages installed on a Potato 
kernel. My fstab does this:

device  mtpt   fs type
/dev/hda4   ->  /  ext2
/dev/hda8   ->  /var ext2
/dev/hda6   -> none swap
/proc  ->  /procproc
/dev/hda7  ->   /usr ext2

And that's all. Seemingly I cannot successfully mount anything else once logged 
in, either: not a new hd partition (like a msdos partition) nor my scsi ZIP 
drive. The exception is I think I got a scsi cdrom mounted ok last night. 
Otherwise I get an error message (which sez any one of a number of different 
things might be wrong, and maximal mount count exceeded is one of them).

   Hopefully,
Soren Andersen


-- 
The makefiles which eventually result from using 'automake' 1.5x are 
monstrosities. Sheer hellish madness. Several dozen targets, named obscene 
things like "am_remake_your_mother"; utterly counter-intuitive, buried in 4 or 
5 levels of indirection, swamped in a thousand lines of baffling, 
migraine-inducing auto-generated superfluity. [These] Makefiles  ought to be 
taken out and bled to death slowly, shot, burned, staked through the heart, 
generally Buffy-ated to the maximum possible extent.
-- Soren Andersen (me) in



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