CUPS: client-error-not-possible

[Patrick Lane]

I'm getting this error:

client-error-not-possible

when trying to print a test page via the cups web based admin tool.

I'm using sid, completely updated. I have no experience with CUPS, can
anyone give me a hand?

--Patrick



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Re: RealPlayer

[Addis Perez]

On Sunday 05 May 2002 11:39 pm, Alvin Oga wrote:
> you probably need to do something like
>
> root# mv rp8_linux20_libc6_i386_cs2_rpm
> rp8_linux20_libc6_i386_cs2.rpm note the *.rpm extension

OR, as Dale Hair has kindly stated before me, do

 alien -k *.rpm 

to convert the *.rpm into a *.deb and then install it with 
everyone's favorite package manager, dpkg :)

Addis


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Re: RealPlayer

[Dale Hair]

On Sun, 2002-05-05 at 22:39, Alvin Oga wrote:
> 
> hi ya dennis
> 
> you probably need to do something like
> 
> root# mv rp8_linux20_libc6_i386_cs2_rpm rp8_linux20_libc6_i386_cs2.rpm
>   note the *.rpm extension
> 
> root#  rpm -ivh --test --force --nodeps rp8_linux20_libc6_i386_cs2.rpm
> 
>   - when you are ready to install ... remove --test
I've never used rpm in debian.  Would it not be better to convert it
with alien and install with dpkg.  This is how I installed the rpm
version I had. 
 



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Re: Reverse Depends on packages

[Andy Saxena]

On Sun, May 05, 2002 at 10:50:01PM -0400, David Z Maze wrote:
> Mike Fedyk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Is there a tool, or series of commands that'll help me find packages
> > that are not depended on anymore in the debian packaging system?
> 
> These days I tend to use aptitude as my standard dpkg/APT front-end.
> Current aptitude (possibly only the version in unstable) has a feature
> to check this on its own.  If you type 'M' into aptitude, the package
> on the current line will be marked with an 'A' (and possibly also
> marked for removal).  That mark means that the package has been
> Automatically installed, and so it will automatically get removed if
> aptitude notices that no other installed packages depend on it.  You
> likely want to mark everything in the 'libs' section this way, along
> with a number of package in the 'interpreters' section, depending on
> how you're using your system.
> 

Aptitude has, no doubt, come along quite nicely in the last couple of
months. I use it on my unstable setup. It boasts tracking packages
installed solely to satisfy a dependency as a feature. The user manual
has a special section, "Tracking Unused Packages," just for this
purpose.

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Re: RealPlayer

[Alvin Oga]

hi ya dennis

you probably need to do something like

root# mv rp8_linux20_libc6_i386_cs2_rpm rp8_linux20_libc6_i386_cs2.rpm
note the *.rpm extension

root#  rpm -ivh --test --force --nodeps rp8_linux20_libc6_i386_cs2.rpm

- when you are ready to install ... remove --test

- you need to tell it dont bother looking for the rpm db

c ya
alvin

On Sun, 5 May 2002, Dennis Krinke wrote:

> What happened to RealPlayer ?
> I would like to install it, and I still have 
> rp8_linux20_libc6_i386_cs2_rpm .
> 
> I tried: rpm -ivh rp8_linux20_libc6_i386_cs2_rpm , but it gives these 
> errors:
> error: cannot open Packages index using db3 - No such file or directory (2)
> error: cannot open Packages database in /var/lib/rpm
> 
> 
> The Debian install always worked and I miss it ...
> TIA,
> Dennis Krinke
> 
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Re: ipchains and ipsec

[Noah Meyerhans]

On Sun, Sep 09, 2012 at 01:26:00AM -0600, Dave Price wrote:
> I have a firewall running ipchain/ipfwadm.  I cannot seem to connect
> 'out' thru this firewall with a masqueraded connection using IPSEC - I
> have a laptop (win) that need to run a nortel vpn client - supposedly
> NAT is no problem for this service, but i cannot connect.  When i change
> the laptop's IP address to bypass the frewall, I connect fine.

You need to open UDP port 500 on the firewall for the key exchange
traffic.

noah

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My ultimate linux box

[Michael Kahle]

Hello,

I am currently building a new computer to replace my P150 overclocked to P166!
:) It's about time!

The system will run Debian GNU/Linux, so I want to ensure that the hardware
I go with will be compatable.  You input is greatly appreciated.

Here are the specs:
Case: Enlight Full Tower (EN-89020SX34)
Power Supply: Enermax 550W
Mainboard: Tyan Tiger MPX
Processor: 2x Athlon MP1800's
Ram: Crucial 1.5GB DDR PC2100 Registered
Monitor: Viewsonic P255f
Soundcard: Sound Blaster Audigy Platinum
Videocard: ATI All-in-Wonder Radeon 8500DV 128 DDR
CDROM: Plextor UltraPlex Wide or Some SCSI DVD player???
CD-RW: Plextor Plexwriter 12/10/32s
Backup: I want a DDS-3 or DDS-4 tape solution... sugestions?
RAID: Compaq 5304 128 Raid controller
SCSI: Adaptec 2940W Controller
Disks: 5 Compaq 10k Ultra 3 SCSI
Drive Cage: Enlight EN-8720 Ultra 160 SCA Backplane
Floppy: Teac
Cooling: Any ideas?

I would like to add 2 more Ultra SCSI-3 Disks for a RAID 0 config for the OS
Any sugestions for where the system should be on the disks?  I.e. I am going 
to have the 5 Compaq disks setup in a RAID 5 array and then the OS mirrored.
Should I have a seperate disk for swap?

Also with the ATI Video, what features on this card are currently supported 
under linux?  Should I go with the DV card or am I just paying extra for a 
firewire port that will not be supported.  I hear the ATI is the best of the 
bunch for supporting open source drivers.

Will the 5304 controller be a pain to setup?  I know it workes under red hat
so I could just use the module they have available.  Any other thoughts, 
ideas?

I know this isn't exactly the correct place to post this sort of message, but 
I have been hard pressed to get any good feedback on anadtech and 2cpu.com for 
good linux related advice.

Thank you all for your thoughts!


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RealPlayer

[Dennis Krinke]

What happened to RealPlayer ?
I would like to install it, and I still have 
rp8_linux20_libc6_i386_cs2_rpm .


I tried: rpm -ivh rp8_linux20_libc6_i386_cs2_rpm , but it gives these 
errors:

error: cannot open Packages index using db3 - No such file or directory (2)
error: cannot open Packages database in /var/lib/rpm


The Debian install always worked and I miss it ...
TIA,
Dennis Krinke


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Re: Allowing sound only from console

[Paul 'Baloo' Johnson]

On Sun, 5 May 2002, Noah Meyerhans wrote:

> Look for CONSOLE_GROUPS in /etc/pam.d/login.  Add users to the 'audio'
> group is they're logged in on the console.

Could we get an example?

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Re: Reverse Depends on packages

[David Z Maze]

Mike Fedyk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Is there a tool, or series of commands that'll help me find packages
> that are not depended on anymore in the debian packaging system?

These days I tend to use aptitude as my standard dpkg/APT front-end.
Current aptitude (possibly only the version in unstable) has a feature
to check this on its own.  If you type 'M' into aptitude, the package
on the current line will be marked with an 'A' (and possibly also
marked for removal).  That mark means that the package has been
Automatically installed, and so it will automatically get removed if
aptitude notices that no other installed packages depend on it.  You
likely want to mark everything in the 'libs' section this way, along
with a number of package in the 'interpreters' section, depending on
how you're using your system.

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Re: Allowing sound only from console

[Noah Meyerhans]

On Sun, May 05, 2002 at 12:43:37AM -0700, Paul 'Baloo' Johnson wrote:
> 2.4.18, devfs, ext3.
> How do I get it so only people sitting at the console can use audio?

Look for CONSOLE_GROUPS in /etc/pam.d/login.  Add users to the 'audio'
group is they're logged in on the console.

noah

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ipchains and ipsec

[Dave Price]

Hi,

I have a firewall running ipchain/ipfwadm.  I cannot seem to connect
'out' thru this firewall with a masqueraded connection using IPSEC - I
have a laptop (win) that need to run a nortel vpn client - supposedly
NAT is no problem for this service, but i cannot connect.  When i change
the laptop's IP address to bypass the frewall, I connect fine.

Any hints?

aloha,
dave



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Re: fun w/ /etc/group and friends

[Colin Watson]

On Sun, May 05, 2002 at 05:45:47PM -0700, Mike Pfleger wrote:
> Today's questions are all about group, group-, and /etc/group.org, those
> fun little files that live in /etc.  I checked the archives, but came up
> with nothing useful.
> 
> First question:  Why are there three of these files?  I thought there
> should only be /etc/group. (?)

The other two are backups, created by various tools that edit
/etc/group. I forget exactly what at the moment.

(.org stands for "original", I think.)

> The next question is a bit more involved, perhaps:
> Can we nest groups in Debian or in GNU/Linux in general?
> -My guess would be "yes" but my experimentation is pretty much
> indicating "no".

No, sorry. This isn't possible in any variant of Unix to my knowledge.

> I logged out and back in, btw, which should have forced the change (or
> am I mistaken?).

That would be sufficient if the change worked. ;) You can also use
newgrp(1) to affect only the current shell.

> My config currently has this user account explicitly added to audio
> and dip (and what is that group for, btw?)

The dip group controls access to dial-up PPP accounts.

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fun w/ /etc/group and friends

[Mike Pfleger]

Hello all.

First; let me say thanks to Eduard Bloch for the clarification on my
Woody install problems.  I installed a Potato base, and upgraded.  Not
graceful, I suppose, but it did the trick :)

Today's questions are all about group, group-, and /etc/group.org, those
fun little files that live in /etc.  I checked the archives, but came up
with nothing useful.

First question:  Why are there three of these files?  I thought there
should only be /etc/group. (?)

The next question is a bit more involved, perhaps:
Can we nest groups in Debian or in GNU/Linux in general?
-My guess would be "yes" but my experimentation is pretty much
indicating "no".

I've added my unpriv'd user accounts to the group "staff".  Then I put
"staff" into the group "audio", with the hope that the unpriv'd users
would now have audio access.  Typing "groups" as any of those unpriv'd
accounts yielded:
staff
and nothing else.  This would indicate to me that nesting does not work
in GNU/Linux, or at least in my vanilla Woody config.  Could someone
please shed some light on this?  I logged out and back in, btw, which
should have forced the change (or am I mistaken?).

All mods (done in vim, btw) had been replicated to all three (see above)
variations of /etc/group*, in case anyone was wondering.  My config
currently has this user account explicitly added to audio and dip (and
what is that group for, btw?), so I have audio currently working for
this acct.

Thanks in advance!
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Re: Problem with nut and Cyberpower 1250AVR

[Bill Bell]

Quoting Peter S Galbraith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> "Brenda J. Butler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Not sure if you already solved this but:
> > 
> > On Sun, Apr 28, 2002 at 01:52:20PM -0500, Bill Bell wrote:
> > > I have a Cyberpower 1250AVR connected to /dev/ttyS1 on my
> > > up-to-date Sid maching running nut.  When I run
> > > "/etc/init.d/nut start" the shell just hangs with-
> > 
> > I have a Cyberpower 650SL and I'm using powstatd.
> 
> Plus powstatd was written for Cyberpower UPSes, so they work well with
> it.
> 
> Peter
> 

Powstatd works as advertised for the Cyberpower UPS.  (I just tried it out this 
weekend, thanks).  I was trying to get nut to work because I have a second 
computer running "the other OS" which nut has a client for.  Both machines are 
running off of this same UPS.  Well, the important box is running woody so it 
looks like powstatd it is.


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Re: Woody install infinite loop

[Colin Watson]

On Sun, May 05, 2002 at 08:51:19PM -0400, Neal Lippman wrote:
> The install proceeds as expected until I get to the point of
> specifying the system time. The HW clock is NOT set to GMT, so I
> select NO for that option. I give my locality as US; Eastern. I then
> create a root account/password and a user account for myself. After I
> do that, the install loops back to ask me again if the HW clock is set
> to GMT. From that point on, nothing I do breaks this loop, and all of
> the above steps just keep on cycling. I have tried the install twice,
> restarting from the very beginning and reformatting all drive
> partitions to ensure there isn't any residual data from a prior
> install that could mess things up; same result each time.

Yes, this is a known bug in base-config. A fix is in unstable and is
going to be pushed into woody before the release.

Cheers,

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Re: Problem with nut and Cyberpower 1250AVR

[Peter S Galbraith]

"Brenda J. Butler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Not sure if you already solved this but:
> 
> On Sun, Apr 28, 2002 at 01:52:20PM -0500, Bill Bell wrote:
> > I have a Cyberpower 1250AVR connected to /dev/ttyS1 on my
> > up-to-date Sid maching running nut.  When I run
> > "/etc/init.d/nut start" the shell just hangs with-
> 
> I have a Cyberpower 650SL and I'm using powstatd.

Plus powstatd was written for Cyberpower UPSes, so they work well with
it.

Peter


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Woody install infinite loop

[Neal Lippman]

I haven't been able to find anything posted on this; wondered if anyone has 
heard about this.

I am attempting a woody install, having d/l'd the disk images over the 
weekend. This is going onto a new system; because it may be relevant, here 
are the specs that I think are needed:
MSI K7T-266A Pro2A MB with Athlon XP1700+; 512MB ram
GeForce2MX video card

The install proceeds as expected until I get to the point of specifying the 
system time. The HW clock is NOT set to GMT, so I select NO for that option. 
I give my locality as US; Eastern. I then create a root account/password and 
a user account for myself. After I do that, the install loops back to ask me 
again if the HW clock is set to GMT. From that point on, nothing I do breaks 
this loop, and all of the above steps just keep on cycling. I have tried the 
install twice, restarting from the very beginning and reformatting all drive 
partitions to ensure there isn't any residual data from a prior install that 
could mess things up; same result each time.

Interestingly, the FIRST time that the question is asked about the HW clock 
and GMT, the correct time is displayed, but each time thereafter the 
displayed time is off by two hours. I verified on reboot that the BIOS 
retains the correct time.

Any thoughts? Is this a known bug that I just cannot find? I thought about 
not creating a user account until later, but didn't see how that would be the 
problem...but I could try it if no one has any better ideas.

Thanks.
Neal Lippman


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Re: Digital camera how-to

[Alan Shutko]

Darryl Caldwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Go to www.gphoto.org and take a look. I have a Powershot G1 and it's
> supported.

Also, the original poster should note that any camera with removable
media will work with Linux, since nearly all card readers work under
Linux, and card readers are often more convenient anyway.

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Re: Digital camera how-to

[Darryl Caldwell]

Go to www.gphoto.org and take a look. I have a Powershot G1 and it's
supported.

"Black Holes are where God divided by zero."
-- Steven Wright

On Sun, 5 May 2002, Steve Brown wrote:

> Hello there,
> 
> I'm not able to find any info about whether or not a USB digital camera can 
> be used with Linux (Debian or otherwise). In particular, a Canon PowerShot 
> A40.
> 
> Does anyone know of any doc's that can get me started? Or is there a reason I 
> can't find anything (in other words can it be done at all).
> 
> Thanks, Steve
> 
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Re: wxGTK error (Audacity)

[Rob Weir]

On Sat, May 04, 2002 at 12:44:06PM +0200, Josef Oswald wrote:
> Well, can't help it I have to ask this question here, as I can't find
> a solution...
> 
> I need to install wxGTK for audacity.
> The problem with audacity is that when I want to save a file, I can't
> see the text I type. When I mark the commando-line in Audacity I can
> see the text.

You should probably file a bug against wxgtk.

-rob


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Re: low latency kernel

[Rob Weir]

On Sat, May 04, 2002 at 12:12:28PM +0200, Josef Oswald wrote:
> Hi:-) 
> 
> At this  I use Kernel 2.4.18 with a 
> 450MHZ CPU AMD-K3  <- I know it's /ancient/ these days :-) 
> 
> Now what I 'd like to know: do the newer Kernels still need the
> low-latency patch or not?

AFAIK (from reading kt), the low-latency patch has not made into any
of Linus' kernels.  The kernel pre-emption patch has made it into 2.5,
but I wouldn't be playing with that right now;)

-rob


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Digital camera how-to

[Steve Brown]

Hello there,

I'm not able to find any info about whether or not a USB digital camera can 
be used with Linux (Debian or otherwise). In particular, a Canon PowerShot 
A40.

Does anyone know of any doc's that can get me started? Or is there a reason I 
can't find anything (in other words can it be done at all).

Thanks, Steve


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Re: IMAP and POP

[Matthew Sackman]

On Mon, May 06, 2002 at 12:22:54AM +0200, Nik Engel wrote:
> Hi Thorsten!
> 
> On Sun, 05 May 2002, Thorsten Haude wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > * Nik Engel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [02-05-05 19:12]:
> > >Hi there ! 
> > >I am running an postfix mailserver with imap and pop. 
> > >Unfortunatly when i read my email via imap i can no longer download it
> > >via pop. 
> > >Is there a possibility to combine this? 
> > Do you download all or new messages via POP3?
> I want to read (via IMAP) and then (from an other location) all download
> all Mail via POP 

Hmm. The only thing I can think is that by reading via IMAP, the emails
are marked as Old (read) and then the POP server doesn't list them.

Have you tried doing a manual telnet into the POP server to see if
they're listed?

Which POP server and IMAP server are you using? Cyrus certainly should
be able to do what you require...

Matthew

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printcap setting for lexmark 100XL

[Eric Smith]

I cannot get this printer to work when I boot into linux.  With
the same hardware it works perfectly in windows.  Other printers
I have no problem with from my Debian.


Anyone have any success with this printer?

thanx

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Re: IMAP and POP

[Nik Engel]

Hi Thorsten!

On Sun, 05 May 2002, Thorsten Haude wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> * Nik Engel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [02-05-05 19:12]:
> >Hi there ! 
> >I am running an postfix mailserver with imap and pop. 
> >Unfortunatly when i read my email via imap i can no longer download it
> >via pop. 
> >Is there a possibility to combine this? 
> Do you download all or new messages via POP3?
I want to read (via IMAP) and then (from an other location) all download
all Mail via POP 




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Re: Mozilla and newsgroups

[Vineet Kumar]

* Mike Fontenot ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [020505 09:20]:
> 
> After I installed mozilla (from potato) and executed it

Mozilla has come a long way. Potato's version is quite old; the current
versions approaching a 1.0 release hardly resemble the old M18 milestone
release, and have come leaps and bounds in the area of stability. I
strongly suggest that you try a more current mozilla. If this is a
desktop machine (not a server or other that has strong availability
requirements preventing it from the "risk" of doing so) I'd recommend
moving forwards towards woody and its version of mozilla.

good times,
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Re: Sorting data points

[Eric G. Miller]

On Sun, May 05, 2002 at 08:57:51PM +0200, DSC Siltec wrote:
> If I think about it, this definitely isn't the quicksort.  However, it 
> may be that it is mathematically equivalent to the heapsort.  In fact,
> it may be an easy implementation of the heap sort.  
> 
> Anyhow, when I was looking back at the data, the same Nlog2N factor came 
> out, and www.nr.com at least claims that they actually get that in their
> worst case.  In which case, they may be mathematically equivalent.  
> 
> The two methods are, at least, conceptually equivalent in terms of the
> general method.
> 
>   So if you wanted to use a standard algorithm, I guess I'd advocate the
> heapsort.
> 
>   But it's not quite the same as the one I described.

In an approximate way, you've described a merge sort which is generally
the preferred method of sorting linked lists and runs in N Log N 
consistently.  The main difference from your description is that the
list is recursively divided in half and then merged back together in
sorted order.  When all the recursion returns you perform the final
merge and then have a sorted list.  For a linked list, it doesn't
require any extra space, which is nice.

For arrays, quicksort is likely to do as well, and possibly better.  But
for 50 items, you could use a bubble sort or insertion sort and not
notice a performance hit.

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Re: Openssh/ssl configure problems

[Vineet Kumar]

* Martin Clarke ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [020505 10:14]:
> Recently while trying to install ssh on my debian (potato) system
> i downloaded both openssh and openssl
> as there is some problem with my cd set (cannot apt-get install ssh)
> 
> so i configureed/installed openssl as per instructions in package
> that went without problem
> 
> when i tried to install the openssh package i only get as far as configure
> the configure script complains that it "cannot find working ssl library"
> so i choose the option to specify location of ssl dir (/usr/local/ssl) but
> still exits with same error
> 
> has anyone had similar problems?? info on net is pretty sketcy and confusing..
> can anyone help?

It sounds to me like you downloaded the sources from openssl.org and
openssh.org respectively. I suggest that it would be easier to go to
http://packages.debian.org/ and get the .deb packages and install those
with dpkg.

If you're really having a problem building openssh, there's probably a
more appropriate forum to ask questions about that (not sure off hand;
look on the openssh web site for a mailing list, newsgroup, or web
posting board).

One thing that may help you get started building it is installing the
openssl-dev package. I'd still say that unless you have a good reason to
do otherwise, you may as well just download the ssh deb and install it
with dpkg, especially if you're having troubles building it yourself.

good times,
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Re: KMail Crash - Please Help

[ben]

On Sunday 05 May 2002 09:10 am, Addis Perez wrote:
> On Sunday 05 May 2002 03:38 am, Jatin Golani wrote:
> > Has anyone faced a similar problem using KMail??
>
> I have not faced a similar problem.
>
> > Are ppl using KMail on Woody with KDE 2.2.2 successfully???
> > Could you'll please tell me which QT you'll are using?
>
> I am successfully using KMail 1.3.2 on KDE 2.2.2 with Qt 2.3.1
> on Linux kernel 2.4.17.  I hope the different kernel isn't a problem.
>
> I'm afraid I can not suggest a fix for I have not come across that
> problem.
>

i've got exactly the same configuration as addis. i've also had no problems 
with kmail--not a single crash, that is.

ben


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Re: unreadable xterm :)

[Carl Johnson]

andrej hocevar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Can I start xterm in unreadable mode by default or with a certain
> option? I mean unreadable as when chosen with ctrl+right click
> "Unreadable".

You can set any of the fonts with entries in your .Xresources file.
There are 6 fonts sizes plus the default, and any or all can be reset.
Look at the "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults/XTerm" file to see what
the defaults are (unreadable is nil2 in mine).  I use entries such as
"XTerm*font:" to set the default, and "XTerm*font3:" to set font 3.
You can use xfontsel to choose fonts, press "select", and then use the
xterm font menu item "Selection" to try it out.

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Re: unreadable xterm :)

[Kevin B. McCarty]

> Can I start xterm in unreadable mode by default or with a certain
> option? I mean unreadable as when chosen with ctrl+right click
> "Unreadable".
>
> andrej

xterm -fn nil2
(-fn tells it what font to load)

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modules missing? sound-slot-1

[Andy Saxena]

Hi,

For a long time I have been getting messages of the following kind in
/var/log/daemon.log:


May  4 23:44:33 localhost modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module 
sound-service-3-3
.
.
.
May  4 23:45:37 localhost modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module sound-slot-2
.
.
.
May  4 23:53:10 localhost modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module nls_iso8859-1
.
.
.
May  5 15:05:30 localhost modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module ipt_unclean



# egrep -r sound-slot /etc

reveals nothing.


I am using a customized kernel, 2.4.18 with Debian/Unstable.


Any pointers?

Thanks,
Andy


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Re: Mailing List and Newsgruops

[Grant Edwards]

On Sun, May 05, 2002 at 09:17:24PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:

> > >> I'm suggesting a moderated group where postings that would
> > >> normally go to the "moderator" directly to the mailing list.
> > >> The gateway is still unidirectional: mail->news.
> > > 
> > > Yup, that's how everybody else does bidirectional gateways too. 
> > 
> > Really?  The other group I read that has an e-mail gateway
> > doesn't seem to be set up that way.  I (and anybody else) can
> > post directly to the group.  There are no "Approved:" headers.
> > AFAICT, it is not a moderated group.  However they set up the
> > news<->email gateway, it does not look like it uses the
> > mechanism I described.
> 
> That's very odd then.

I don't know how "odd" it is, but I have confirmed that it
doesn't used the moderation mechanism.  It uses an NNTP client
program that harvests articles and sends them to the mailing
list (discarding articles that originated from the mailing list).

Using the moderated group mechanism is definitly not "how
everybody else does bidirectional gateways too".  I've checked,
and none of the other gated newsgroups I've read were set up as
moderted either.

> Almost sounds like something that was originally a
> newsgroup and then had a mail gateway retrofitted to it

Probably.

> ... I certainly don't think it's usual for mailing lists that
> get gated to news, like this case. Creating two different
> canonical sources of articles is likely to cause confusion.

How so?  If you set up a moderated newsgroup, then postings get
mailed to the list (just like postings do now).  The gateway
still treats usenet as a write-only medium.  Why is there any
danger of a loop if slrn mails the article rather than mutt?

> (I think it would be a good idea for debian-user shadow newsgroups to be
> moderated anyway, if nothing else so that they can point to a mailbot
> that tells people they should be mailing articles to the mailing list.
> However, I'm not even sure if the person who would handle that reads
> this list.)

Why not just mail the article to the mailing list?

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Re: Kernel 2.4.18-686 and PCMCIA woes

[Alex Bernson]

This worked for me whith somewhat the same problem:
Get the kernel source, do a make oldconfig and then a make menuconfig
for anything else you need to change, and then just make modules and
make modules_install without actually compiling the kernel.

Hope that works.
--Alex

On Sun, 2002-05-05 at 13:11, Peter Whysall wrote:
> On Sun, 2002-05-05 at 20:46, Tommi Komulainen wrote:
> > On 2002-05-05 20:31 +, Peter Whysall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > On Sun, 2002-05-05 at 19:36, Tommi Komulainen wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > The suggestion from Brian Mays worked for me.  That is, after removing
> > > > the directory /lib/modules/2.4.18-686/pcmcia restarting pcmcia services 
> > > > worked just fine.
> > > 
> > > I tried this, and it didn't work :(
> > 
> > Doh, one thing I forgot to mention.  After removing the directory I run
> > 'update-modules' (like one should always do when messing with modules
> > for running kernel.)  See if things work after running 'update-modules.'
> > They should, I think.
> > 
> > 
> > > The wickedness comes from the fact that it should be using the 3c589
> > > driver, not the i82365 one - and on inspection of the
> > > /lib/modules/2.4.18-686/kernel/drivers/pcmcia directory, there isn't
> > > one.
> > 
> > The driver, 3c589_cs, appears (dpkg -L kernel-pcmcia-modules-2.4.18) to
> > be in:
> > 
> > /lib/modules/2.4.18/kernel/drivers/net/pcmcia
> 
> Many thanks for all your help, but I'm no further on. I ran
> update-modules, tried to restart pcmcia, and got the same error.
> 
> Hrumph.
> 
> Take care,
> 
> Peter.
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Re: Mailing List and Newsgruops

[Colin Watson]

On Sun, May 05, 2002 at 01:28:55PM -0500, Grant Edwards wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Colin Watson wrote:
> > On Sun, May 05, 2002 at 11:38:36AM -0500, Grant Edwards wrote:
> >> I'm suggesting a moderated group where postings that would
> >> normally go to the "moderator" directly to the mailing list.
> >> The gateway is still unidirectional: mail->news.
> > 
> > Yup, that's how everybody else does bidirectional gateways too. 
> 
> Really?  The other group I read that has an e-mail gateway
> doesn't seem to be set up that way.  I (and anybody else) can
> post directly to the group.  There are no "Approved:" headers.
> AFAICT, it is not a moderated group.  However they set up the
> news<->email gateway, it does not look like it uses the
> mechanism I described.

That's very odd then. Almost sounds like something that was originally a
newsgroup and then had a mail gateway retrofitted to it ... I certainly
don't think it's usual for mailing lists that get gated to news, like
this case. Creating two different canonical sources of articles is
likely to cause confusion.

(I think it would be a good idea for debian-user shadow newsgroups to be
moderated anyway, if nothing else so that they can point to a mailbot
that tells people they should be mailing articles to the mailing list.
However, I'm not even sure if the person who would handle that reads
this list.)

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Re: Kernel 2.4.18-686 and PCMCIA woes

[Peter Whysall]

On Sun, 2002-05-05 at 20:46, Tommi Komulainen wrote:
> On 2002-05-05 20:31 +, Peter Whysall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Sun, 2002-05-05 at 19:36, Tommi Komulainen wrote:
> > > 
> > > The suggestion from Brian Mays worked for me.  That is, after removing
> > > the directory /lib/modules/2.4.18-686/pcmcia restarting pcmcia services 
> > > worked just fine.
> > 
> > I tried this, and it didn't work :(
> 
> Doh, one thing I forgot to mention.  After removing the directory I run
> 'update-modules' (like one should always do when messing with modules
> for running kernel.)  See if things work after running 'update-modules.'
> They should, I think.
> 
> 
> > The wickedness comes from the fact that it should be using the 3c589
> > driver, not the i82365 one - and on inspection of the
> > /lib/modules/2.4.18-686/kernel/drivers/pcmcia directory, there isn't
> > one.
> 
> The driver, 3c589_cs, appears (dpkg -L kernel-pcmcia-modules-2.4.18) to
> be in:
> 
> /lib/modules/2.4.18/kernel/drivers/net/pcmcia

Many thanks for all your help, but I'm no further on. I ran
update-modules, tried to restart pcmcia, and got the same error.

Hrumph.

Take care,

Peter.
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Iomega Ditto Drive

[Matthew Sackman]

Hi all,

Does anyone have an Iomega Ditto Max Parallel drive?
What's it like, does it work, is it reliable etc etc?

I know that they will work under Linux, I'm just curious as to how
*well* they work!

Any advice gratefully received,

Matthew

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Re: Building 'internal' deb packages?

[Karsten Heymann]

* Vincent W.S. Tam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [020505 13:49]:
> Dear all,
> 
> We're using Debian 2.2 for most of our systems. We've also tried bunk's
> packages to include some early Woody packages added to our machines to
> allow us to run kernel 2.4. 
> 
> Now, for some reasons we'd like to build our own packages. (e.g. want to
> use newer version of the software not included in Debian distribution,
> internal written software)
> 
> Is there a recommended way to build and name these internal packages so
> that they can work peacefully with the 'official' packages? We've
> checked the Debian Policy and seems didn't find this kind of
> information.
> 
> Anybody can give us some guidelines? :)

I've heard checkinstall often does a good job. 
 
> Thanks a lot!,
> Vincent

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Re: Kernel 2.4.18-686 and PCMCIA woes

[Tommi Komulainen]

On 2002-05-05 20:31 +, Peter Whysall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, 2002-05-05 at 19:36, Tommi Komulainen wrote:
> > 
> > The suggestion from Brian Mays worked for me.  That is, after removing
> > the directory /lib/modules/2.4.18-686/pcmcia restarting pcmcia services 
> > worked just fine.
> 
> I tried this, and it didn't work :(

Doh, one thing I forgot to mention.  After removing the directory I run
'update-modules' (like one should always do when messing with modules
for running kernel.)  See if things work after running 'update-modules.'
They should, I think.


> The wickedness comes from the fact that it should be using the 3c589
> driver, not the i82365 one - and on inspection of the
> /lib/modules/2.4.18-686/kernel/drivers/pcmcia directory, there isn't
> one.

The driver, 3c589_cs, appears (dpkg -L kernel-pcmcia-modules-2.4.18) to
be in:

/lib/modules/2.4.18/kernel/drivers/net/pcmcia


HTH.

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Re: SoftwareRaid + Root + Boot with FastTrak100

[guennelk]

To: Eduard Bloch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SoftwareRaid + Root + Boot with FastTrak100

On Sun, May 05, 2002 at 11:27:52AM +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote:
> Moin guennelk!
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb am Sunday, den 05. May 2002:
> 
> > > Why? Woody-Install with bf2.4-based boot-floppies does support ATARAID
> > > out-of-the-box.
> > > 
> > I know but not the FastTrak special or only as module 
> 
> Explain why. Did you try the bf2.4 flavor? If it does not work, report
> it (the thing has been designed to support such hardware)!
> 

I just had a look again on the config.gz of 2.4.18-bf, and you are
right, it should work.
The only Problem might be:
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_MD=m
CONFIG_MD_LINEAR=m
CONFIG_MD_RAID0=m
CONFIG_MD_RAID1=m
CONFIG_MD_RAID5=m
CONFIG_MD_MULTIPATH=m

are only modules, so where to boot off?

I also try to install direkly on the RAID, using the patch discribed in
the 'Promise FastTrak66/100 Debian HOWTO' but the Installation-Program
does not recognise the HDDs.

> > No, I only want to use RAID1 and RAID5.
> > I use the Debian kernel-sources-2.4.18 to compile and did not get any
> > extras.
> 
> Ah, you want Linux-Raid, not ATARAID. That is another story.

That is exakt, I want to use SoftwareRaid and no Windoff shit

> 
> > # CONFIG_DMA_NONPCI is not set
> > CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDE_MODES=y
> > CONFIG_BLK_DEV_ATARAID=y
> > CONFIG_BLK_DEV_ATARAID_PDC=y
> 
> Well, this is for hardware/software-controlled mode, windows-compatible.
> But I still cannot undestand what you are going to do. linux-raid on top
> of ataraid? On top of regular block device access (partitions)?
> 
I know.
I have to configure a RAID-Array in my RAID-BIOS, otherwise my Main-BIOS
does not find the HDDs to boot on the offboard ide (no possibility to
say OS).
If it ever gonna work, I either need a new Raid-BIOS (but I just flashed
it with the newest on and still no OS-option) or somehow I have to
change from Hardware to Software RAID, propably 
> > Thats what I did. lilo.conf:
> > 
> > disk=/dev/hda
> > bios=0x80
> > disk=/dev/ataraid/d0
> > bios=0x81 sectors=63 heads=255 cylinders=29904
> > partition=/dev/ataraid/d0p1
> 
> Should work even without the geometry specification.

> > boot=/dev/hda   (it shoud be /dev/ataraid/d0 or /dev/hde ?)
> 
> Well, where do you want to have the MBR? If you initialised your
> harddisks in ATARAID mode within the controller bios, you MUST NOT touch
> the partitions "raw". Means: MBR of virutial ataraid drive is the MBR
> seen in the boot environment. But ataraid has nothing to do with
> Linux-Raid, even if it works in similar way.

I only want to use SoftwareRaid raid5 and just the four HDDs on the
FastTrak contoller. I need to boot off them, so I think 
> 
> > > So what now, hde or ataraid?
> >  
> > I would like to use SoftwareRAID only, but I think to boot at least with
> > LILO, I first have to use ataraid but I am not sure. 
> 
> If you goal is redudancy, use a small / partition, with 200meg or so, on
> one of the disks, and setup all other partitions with Linux-Raid. Later,
> you can symlink parts of the raid volume to /usr, /var, /home, or even
> use bind-mounts with kernel 2.4...
> 
> /vol1/usr on /usr type none (rw,bind)
> /vol1/var on /var type none (rw,bind)
> /vol1/home on /home type none (rw,bind)
> 
Did not read about bind-mounts so far.


My goal is speed (strips) and a bit security from hardware-failures.
Right now I use an old 486 as Server (gateway,proxy,dhcp..) with only
1GB HDD.
I want to use the new Server for this and also as nfs-server for /home 
and as a file-server.

So you I need  a small / partition at the beginning of hde to get booted, but
then again I might run into Problems with my RAID-Bios.
Where should I put my swaps? the best way is probably on all 4 HDDs.
Right now I have the /boot as raid1 on the 2 masters (hde,hdg each 16M) and a
slightly smaller swap compared to the 2 slaves (hdf,hdh) to get partions
of the same size on all 4 HDDs for the raid5 partitions.

If I have a small / Partition on hde, do I have to run raid5 on an raid0
to use all the space of the HDDs because of the /, I won't have partitions 
of exactly the same size.


> > > Well, I implemented and tested booting of ATARAID on a Highpoint Raid
> > > controller (very similar), works fine with Woody now.
> >  
> > Do you have the controller onboard or a PCI-card ?
> 
> It was an onboard (extra) controller, Highpoint-Raid-370. But I was told
> it works the same way as Promise products, onboard as well as on
> external cards. Well, I do not have this hardware any longer.

I think there might be a difference between an contoller onboard and an
extra PCI-card.

> > Do you use Lilo or any other Boot-Loader ?
> 
> The disks were running in raid0 mode, configured in the Highpoint bios.
> BIOS was configured to boot from "external/scsi controller", the MBR was
> installed into the MBR of the new virtuall harddisk, /dev/ataraid/d0.
> Unfortunately, only Raid0 mode is supported by the linux driver, so 

Re: Kernel 2.4.18-686 and PCMCIA woes

[Peter Whysall]

On Sun, 2002-05-05 at 19:36, Tommi Komulainen wrote:
> On 2002-05-05 18:34 +, Peter Whysall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Fresh install onto a laptop that's seen kernel-image-2.2.20 and the
> > corresponding pcmcia-modules-2.2.20 package working just fine with a
> > 3Com 3C589 network card.
> > 
> > apt-get install kernel-image-2.4.18-686 and 
> > kernel-pcmcia-modules-2.4.18-686, and the network fails to start with
> > "unresolved symbol isapnp_find_dev_blah" where blah is some large
> > number.
> 
> I had similar problem with 2.4.18-i386, only with wavelan card.  The bug
> was already submitted to BTS, see http://bugs.debian.org/144613 .
> 
> The suggestion from Brian Mays worked for me.  That is, after removing
> the directory /lib/modules/2.4.18-686/pcmcia restarting pcmcia services 
> worked just fine.

I tried this, and it didn't work :(

There's something wicked in my 2.4.18-686 PCMCIA stuff, though, because
here's the errors I get when I do: /etc/init.d/pcmcia restart

Shutting down PCMCIA services:.
Starting PCMCIA
services:/lib/modules/2.4.18-686/kernel/drivers/pcmcia/i82365.o:
init_module: No such device
/lib/modules/2.4.18-686/kernel/drivers/pcmcia/i82365.o: insmod
/lib/modules/2.4.18-686/kernel/drivers/pcmcia/i82365.o failed
/lib/modules/2.4.18-686/kernel/drivers/pcmcia/i82365.o: insmod i82365
failed
Hint: insmod errors can be caused by incorrect module parameters,
including invalid IO or IRQ parameters
/lib/modules/2.4.18-686/kernel/drivers/pcmcia/ds.o: init_module:
Operation not permitted
/lib/modules/2.4.18-686/kernel/drivers/pcmcia/ds.o: insmod
/lib/modules/2.4.18-686/kernel/drivers/pcmcia/ds.o failed
/lib/modules/2.4.18-686/kernel/drivers/pcmcia/ds.o: insmod ds failed
Hint: insmod errors can be caused by incorrect module parameters,
including invalid IO or IRQ parameters
 cardmgr.

The wickedness comes from the fact that it should be using the 3c589
driver, not the i82365 one - and on inspection of the
/lib/modules/2.4.18-686/kernel/drivers/pcmcia directory, there isn't
one.

I am heading towards thoroughly confused at a rate of knots :\

Take care,

Peter.

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Re: Sorting data points

[DSC Siltec]

If I think about it, this definitely isn't the quicksort.  However, it 
may be that it is mathematically equivalent to the heapsort.  In fact,
it may be an easy implementation of the heap sort.  

Anyhow, when I was looking back at the data, the same Nlog2N factor came 
out, and www.nr.com at least claims that they actually get that in their
worst case.  In which case, they may be mathematically equivalent.  

The two methods are, at least, conceptually equivalent in terms of the
general method.

  So if you wanted to use a standard algorithm, I guess I'd advocate the
heapsort.

  But it's not quite the same as the one I described.

- Michael



Tinus Kotze wrote:
> 
> On Sun 05 May 02 16:03, DSC Siltec wrote:
> > Deosaran Bisnath wrote:
> > > I am new to linux g++ & am not sure how to do this. Your help is
> > > most welcome
> > >
> > > there are about 50 data points like this, x and y
> > >
> > > x y
> > > 2.4  1
> > > 67.21   2
> > > 1.9   3
> > > 211.45  4
> > >
> > > I want to sort x in ascending or descending order so the above are
> > > arranged like this:
> > >
> > > x  y
> > > 211.45  4
> > > 67.212
> > > 2.41
> > > 1.93
> > >
> > > what is the fastest way to do this? thanks
> >
> > The fastest way probably isn't well published.
> > First of all, to increase speed, use indexes.  That is, you don't
> > change the
> > order of the list items -- rather, each list has not only an X entry
> > and a Y entry, but also 4 other entries "Previous item on X list",
> > "Next item on X list", "Previous item on Y list", "Next item on Y
> > list".  Then you have 4 other indexes:  "First item on X list", "Last
> > item on X list"... and so on.
> >
> > Aside from that, if you are going to be deleting items, you should
> > also keep a trash list as well.
> >
> > This all prevents you from having to move whole lists of data.
> > Rather, you just change the pointers and go on.
> >
> >  Now  here's the algorithm for the *FASTEST* sort of a
> > general nature.
> >
> > What do I mean by fastest?  The number of compares approaches the
> > magical
> > number of data reduction, Log-2-N.  Let's see.
> >
> > (1) Go through the items in pairs.  Compare the first item with the
> > second item in each pair.  If the first item comes before the second
> > item, then leave it alone.  If the first item comes after the second
> > item, then swap them.
> >
> > (2) Now go through the list in pairs of pairs.  Compare the top two
> > items from the list, and make the first item first.  Now compare the
> > "loser" with the next item in the previous winner's list.  Make the
> > next item second.  Now -- if both winners came from the same list,
> > then you're done with that "pair of pairs".  If both winners came
> > from a different list, then you need one more compare.
> >
> > So now you should have groups of 4 that are each ordered.
> >
> > (3) Now go through the list in pairs of "4s".  Take two groups of
> > four, and compare the top items.  Keep the winner, and compare the
> > loser to the item below the winner.  Keep that winner, and advance
> > through both "stacks" of numbers until one stack is exhausted.  Then
> > stack the remainder on the bottom.
> >
> > (4) Subsequently go through the list in pairs of 8s, 16s, etc...  If
> > at the end of the list you don't have a power of 2, it doesn't
> > matter. Just do your compares until one stack runs out, and stack the
> > rest on the bottom of that resultant stack.  Eventually, you will
> > have a single stack, all sorted.
> >
> > You will best be able to understand this method by trying it with a
> > deck of cards.  First do it with 16 cards (A-2-3-... 10,J,Q,13 of
> > hearts, and 2-3-4 of spades).  Then try it with the full deck.  Then
> > go program it.
> >
> >
> >  - Michael
> 
> Just for interest sake, are you refering to the quicksort algoritm, or
> another.
> 
> Tinus


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Re: Kernel 2.4.18-686 and PCMCIA woes

[Tommi Komulainen]

On 2002-05-05 18:34 +, Peter Whysall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Fresh install onto a laptop that's seen kernel-image-2.2.20 and the
> corresponding pcmcia-modules-2.2.20 package working just fine with a
> 3Com 3C589 network card.
> 
> apt-get install kernel-image-2.4.18-686 and 
> kernel-pcmcia-modules-2.4.18-686, and the network fails to start with
> "unresolved symbol isapnp_find_dev_blah" where blah is some large
> number.

I had similar problem with 2.4.18-i386, only with wavelan card.  The bug
was already submitted to BTS, see http://bugs.debian.org/144613 .

The suggestion from Brian Mays worked for me.  That is, after removing
the directory /lib/modules/2.4.18-686/pcmcia restarting pcmcia services 
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Mailing List and Newsgruops

[Grant Edwards]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Colin Watson wrote:
> On Sun, May 05, 2002 at 11:38:36AM -0500, Grant Edwards wrote:
>> Colin Watson wrote:
>> > On Sun, May 05, 2002 at 11:13:51AM -0500, Grant Edwards wrote:
>> >> This sounds like the exact same mechanism used by moderated
>> >> newsgroups, but postings to muc.l.d.u don't seem to get mailed
>> >> to the list.  Why not set up muc.l.d.u as a moderated group
>> >> with postings going to the mailing list?
>> > 
>> > Bidirectional mail<->news gatewaying is very delicate - get it wrong and
>> > you'll have mail loops from hell. It's often simpler just to avoid the
>> > issue.
>> 
>> Right. That's why I'm not suggesting a bi-directional gateway
>> (not in the traditional sense of the word).
>> 
>> I'm suggesting a moderated group where postings that would
>> normally go to the "moderator" directly to the mailing list.
>> The gateway is still unidirectional: mail->news.
> 
> Yup, that's how everybody else does bidirectional gateways too. 

Really?  The other group I read that has an e-mail gateway
doesn't seem to be set up that way.  I (and anybody else) can
post directly to the group.  There are no "Approved:" headers.
AFAICT, it is not a moderated group.  However they set up the
news<->email gateway, it does not look like it uses the
mechanism I described.

> It's bidirectional because the other half of the gateway is
> the system that mails posts to the moderation address.
>
> It's fine if you get it right and it's well-maintained - just pointing
> out that the standard loop problem is probably why the newsadmin
> responsible for the gateway hasn't set it up.

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Re: Mailing List and Newsgruops

[Colin Watson]

On Sun, May 05, 2002 at 10:58:20AM -0700, Paul 'Baloo' Johnson wrote:
> On Sun, 5 May 2002, Colin Watson wrote:
> > It's fine if you get it right and it's well-maintained - just pointing
> > out that the standard loop problem is probably why the newsadmin
> > responsible for the gateway hasn't set it up.
> 
> Actually, I believe this is up to the mail admin to check for loops,
> simply because without loop checking, I could just subscribe to the
> list and set my .forward to the list.  This would wreak hell.

In a good setup both sides should check for loops, just to be sure.

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Re: Mailing List and Newsgruops

[Paul 'Baloo' Johnson]

On Sun, 5 May 2002, Colin Watson wrote:

> It's fine if you get it right and it's well-maintained - just pointing
> out that the standard loop problem is probably why the newsadmin
> responsible for the gateway hasn't set it up.

Actually, I believe this is up to the mail admin to check for loops,
simply because without loop checking, I could just subscribe to the
list and set my .forward to the list.  This would wreak hell.

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Re: Hauppage WinTV Go -- howto?

[Peter Whysall]

On Sun, 2002-05-05 at 17:44, Marc Wilson wrote:

> supported bt878 chips for ages.  I have one and it's pretty much a pb&j
> job:

pb&j?

Take care,

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Kernel 2.4.18-686 and PCMCIA woes

[Peter Whysall]

Fresh install onto a laptop that's seen kernel-image-2.2.20 and the
corresponding pcmcia-modules-2.2.20 package working just fine with a
3Com 3C589 network card.

apt-get install kernel-image-2.4.18-686 and 
kernel-pcmcia-modules-2.4.18-686, and the network fails to start with
"unresolved symbol isapnp_find_dev_blah" where blah is some large
number.

A quick mooch around with Google seems to indicate that this error is a
result of not having ISA PNP compiled into the kernel. As this is a
relatively low-memory machine (32MB) I want to avoid a kernel compile if
possible as it will take (from bitter experience) the thick end of 3
hours. Lather, rinse and repeat as I forget Option A to get thing B
working.

Is there a workaround for this? Is there a different 2.4 kernel that is
known to work with PCMCIA? 

BTW, the reason I'm pursuing 2.4 is because I want to use ALSA to drive
the sound card (cheesy Intel i810 thing), and I don't see a drivers
package for 2.2 kernels.

This computer is currently pointed at Sid, although that doesn't have to
be the case.

Regards

Peter.
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X-Forwarding with ssh no longer works

[Reinhold Kainhofer]

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Hello,
I'm running the latest unstable here on my computer with the Debian 2.4.8-k7 
Kernel, but now I got a big problem: For quite a few days, X-forwarding no 
longer works with ssh. It is enabled, and everything should be fine, but for 
some reason the programs can't connect to the x-server:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
albert:~# echo $DISPLAY
albert.kainhofer.com:11.0
albert:~# nedit
NEdit: Can't open display

In /etc/ssh/ssh_config I have:
Host *
   ForwardAgent yes
   ForwardX11 yes

and in /etc/ssh/sshd_config
X11Forwarding yes
X11DisplayOffset 10

I already tried the -v -v -v option for ssh, but I don't get any information 
about why x-forwarding fails:
debug3: tty_make_modes: 93 0
debug1: Requesting X11 forwarding with authentication spoofing.
debug1: Requesting authentication agent forwarding.
debug1: channel request 0: shell
debug2: callback done


I'm not aware that I changed anything in the configuration, it just stopped 
working (probably on one of my frequent updates via dselect).

Can somebody please help me with that?

Thanks,
Reinhold

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Re: IMAP and POP

[Thorsten Haude]

Hi,

* Nik Engel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [02-05-05 19:12]:
>Hi there ! 
>I am running an postfix mailserver with imap and pop. 
>Unfortunatly when i read my email via imap i can no longer download it
>via pop. 
>Is there a possibility to combine this? 
Do you download all or new messages via POP3?

Thorsten
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Re: devfs joystick question

[Rich Rudnick]

On Sun, 2002-05-05 at 04:31, Paul 'Baloo' Johnson wrote:
> Just what *is* the path to the joystick device in /dev under devfs?  I
> do have my modules installed for it and everything, though I compiled
> them post-reboot...
> 

please, please, someone answer this :)

pretty please?

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Re: Linksys NC100 network card

[Rich Rudnick]

On Sat, 2002-05-04 at 22:21, Dr. Louis A. Turk wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Is there a Debian Linux driver for the Linksys Model NC100 v2 10/100 
> Network Card?  Or should I buy a different card?  If I need a different 
> card, what is the best and easiest-to-install card?
> 

I use that card with the tulip driver.

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Re: Openssh/ssl configure problems

[Colin Watson]

On Sun, May 05, 2002 at 05:14:27PM +, Martin Clarke wrote:
> Recently while trying to install ssh on my debian (potato) system
> i downloaded both openssh and openssl
> as there is some problem with my cd set (cannot apt-get install ssh)

You probably have a CD set without the non-US section of the archive.
Get the packages from here:

  http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US/dists/stable/non-US/main/binary-i386/

You can also add this line to /etc/apt/sources.list to teach apt how to
fetch them automatically:

  deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable/non-US main

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Re: Mailing List and Newsgruops

[Colin Watson]

On Sun, May 05, 2002 at 11:38:36AM -0500, Grant Edwards wrote:
> Colin Watson wrote:
> > On Sun, May 05, 2002 at 11:13:51AM -0500, Grant Edwards wrote:
> >> This sounds like the exact same mechanism used by moderated
> >> newsgroups, but postings to muc.l.d.u don't seem to get mailed
> >> to the list.  Why not set up muc.l.d.u as a moderated group
> >> with postings going to the mailing list?
> > 
> > Bidirectional mail<->news gatewaying is very delicate - get it wrong and
> > you'll have mail loops from hell. It's often simpler just to avoid the
> > issue.
> 
> Right. That's why I'm not suggesting a bi-directional gateway
> (not in the traditional sense of the word).
> 
> I'm suggesting a moderated group where postings that would
> normally go to the "moderator" directly to the mailing list.
> The gateway is still unidirectional: mail->news.

Yup, that's how everybody else does bidirectional gateways too. It's
bidirectional because the other half of the gateway is the system that
mails posts to the moderation address.

It's fine if you get it right and it's well-maintained - just pointing
out that the standard loop problem is probably why the newsadmin
responsible for the gateway hasn't set it up.

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Openssh/ssl configure problems

[Martin Clarke]

Recently while trying to install ssh on my debian (potato) system
i downloaded both openssh and openssl
as there is some problem with my cd set (cannot apt-get install ssh)

so i configureed/installed openssl as per instructions in package
that went without problem

when i tried to install the openssh package i only get as far as configure
the configure script complains that it "cannot find working ssl library"
so i choose the option to specify location of ssl dir (/usr/local/ssl) but
still exits with same error

has anyone had similar problems?? info on net is pretty sketcy and confusing..
can anyone help?
thanks
martin.





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IMAP and POP

[Nik Engel]

Hi there ! 
I am running an postfix mailserver with imap and pop. 
Unfortunatly when i read my email via imap i can no longer download it
via pop. 
Is there a possibility to combine this? 

Thanx 

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Re: Hauppage WinTV Go -- howto?

[Nik Engel]

Hi Rohan!

On Sun, 05 May 2002, Rohan Deshpande wrote:

> I was just wondering if anyone knew how to set up a PCI WinTV card in
> Debian Linux Unstable.  Any pointers would be appreciated. 
Hm, for me the same, easy task expect the sound. 
I am running Debian Sid, unfotunatly the Picture is working, but i
cannot get the sound working. For sound i am using OSS (non-free)
Soundblaster Live an Haupauge WINTV Card with tuner. My sound is working
with all applications fine, but even when i connect my TV Card directly
to the amplifier i donŽt get the sound. SO i canŽt be the Sound drivers

my modules : 

tvaudio 9792   0  (autoclean) (unused)
msp340014192   1  (autoclean)
bttv   60992   0 
i2c-algo-bit7052   1  [bttv]
sblive 45152   1 
audiobuf   12320   1  [sblive]
uart401 7936   1  [sblive]
pnp50308   1  [sblive]
midi   30460   1  [uart401 pnp]
ac978096   1  [sblive]
soundbase 622240   1  [sblive audiobuf uart401 pnp midi
ac97]
sndshield  10604   0  [sblive audiobuf uart401 pnp midi ac97
soundbase]
tuner   8036   1 
i2c-core   13024   0  [tvaudio msp3400 bttv i2c-algo-bit
tuner]
videodev3264   3  [bttv]
loop8400   0  (unused)
scsi_mod   81672   0  (unused)
hisax 170176   0  (unused)
isdn   96640   0  [hisax]
slhc4384   0  [isdn]

any ideas .. 

Nik 
> 


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Re: Hauppage WinTV Go -- howto?

[Marc Wilson]

On Sun, May 05, 2002 at 10:04:43AM -0400, Rohan Deshpande wrote:
> I was just wondering if anyone knew how to set up a PCI WinTV card in
> Debian Linux Unstable.  Any pointers would be appreciated. 

It's no big deal... any reasonably recent 2.4.x kernel knows what that card
is and will get the tuner right.  Heck, I think 2.2 will, although it's
been a long time since I've played with one under 2.2.  The bttv driver has
supported bt878 chips for ages.  I have one and it's pretty much a pb&j
job:

1) build kernel, support for video4linux turned on
2) reboot to new kernel
3) load bttv module, tuner comes along with it
4) run your program-of-choice (I use xawtv)

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Re: Sorting data points

[DSC Siltec]

Tinus Kotze wrote:
> 
> On Sun 05 May 02 16:03, DSC Siltec wrote:
> > Deosaran Bisnath wrote:
> > > I am new to linux g++ & am not sure how to do this. Your help is
> > > most welcome
> > >
> > > there are about 50 data points like this, x and y
> > >
> > > x y
> > > 2.4  1
> > > 67.21   2
> > > 1.9   3
> > > 211.45  4
> > >
> > > I want to sort x in ascending or descending order so the above are
> > > arranged like this:
> > >
> > > x  y
> > > 211.45  4
> > > 67.212
> > > 2.41
> > > 1.93
> > >
> > > what is the fastest way to do this? thanks
> >
> > The fastest way probably isn't well published.
> > First of all, to increase speed, use indexes.  That is, you don't
> > change the
> > order of the list items -- rather, each list has not only an X entry
> > and a Y entry, but also 4 other entries "Previous item on X list",
> > "Next item on X list", "Previous item on Y list", "Next item on Y
> > list".  Then you have 4 other indexes:  "First item on X list", "Last
> > item on X list"... and so on.
> >
> > Aside from that, if you are going to be deleting items, you should
> > also keep a trash list as well.
> >
> > This all prevents you from having to move whole lists of data.
> > Rather, you just change the pointers and go on.
> >
> >  Now  here's the algorithm for the *FASTEST* sort of a
> > general nature.
> >
> > What do I mean by fastest?  The number of compares approaches the
> > magical
> > number of data reduction, Log-2-N.  Let's see.
> >
> > (1) Go through the items in pairs.  Compare the first item with the
> > second item in each pair.  If the first item comes before the second
> > item, then leave it alone.  If the first item comes after the second
> > item, then swap them.
> >
> > (2) Now go through the list in pairs of pairs.  Compare the top two
> > items from the list, and make the first item first.  Now compare the
> > "loser" with the next item in the previous winner's list.  Make the
> > next item second.  Now -- if both winners came from the same list,
> > then you're done with that "pair of pairs".  If both winners came
> > from a different list, then you need one more compare.
> >
> > So now you should have groups of 4 that are each ordered.
> >
> > (3) Now go through the list in pairs of "4s".  Take two groups of
> > four, and compare the top items.  Keep the winner, and compare the
> > loser to the item below the winner.  Keep that winner, and advance
> > through both "stacks" of numbers until one stack is exhausted.  Then
> > stack the remainder on the bottom.
> >
> > (4) Subsequently go through the list in pairs of 8s, 16s, etc...  If
> > at the end of the list you don't have a power of 2, it doesn't
> > matter. Just do your compares until one stack runs out, and stack the
> > rest on the bottom of that resultant stack.  Eventually, you will
> > have a single stack, all sorted.
> >
> > You will best be able to understand this method by trying it with a
> > deck of cards.  First do it with 16 cards (A-2-3-... 10,J,Q,13 of
> > hearts, and 2-3-4 of spades).  Then try it with the full deck.  Then
> > go program it.
> >
> >
> >  - Michael
> 
> Just for interest sake, are you refering to the quicksort algoritm, or
> another.
> 
> Tinus

I don't think that this is at all like the quicksort method.  

The quicksort method averages very well -- but can take up to N-squared
comparisons.  So I think that the routine I named is actually better.

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Re: Mailing List and Newsgruops

[Grant Edwards]

> On Sun, May 05, 2002 at 11:13:51AM -0500, Grant Edwards wrote:
>> This sounds like the exact same mechanism used by moderated
>> newsgroups, but postings to muc.l.d.u don't seem to get mailed
>> to the list.  Why not set up muc.l.d.u as a moderated group
>> with postings going to the mailing list?
> 
> Bidirectional mail<->news gatewaying is very delicate - get it wrong and
> you'll have mail loops from hell. It's often simpler just to avoid the
> issue.

Right. That's why I'm not suggesting a bi-directional gateway
(not in the traditional sense of the word).

I'm suggesting a moderated group where postings that would
normally go to the "moderator" directly to the mailing list.
The gateway is still unidirectional: mail->news.

Right now, people who read the newsgroup have no idea that
their postings aren't seen by the mailing list readers.

[Perhaps I'm the only one who does it, but I repeatedly start
to post follow-ups only to have to save the article and mail-it
later.]

Maybe there's a way to configure slrn to e-mail postings to
specific groups to certain addresses...

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Re: Mailing List and Newsgruops

[Colin Watson]

On Sun, May 05, 2002 at 11:13:51AM -0500, Grant Edwards wrote:
> This sounds like the exact same mechanism used by moderated
> newsgroups, but postings to muc.l.d.u don't seem to get mailed
> to the list.  Why not set up muc.l.d.u as a moderated group
> with postings going to the mailing list?

Bidirectional mail<->news gatewaying is very delicate - get it wrong and
you'll have mail loops from hell. It's often simpler just to avoid the
issue.

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Mozilla and newsgroups

[Mike Fontenot]

After I installed mozilla (from potato) and executed it
the first time, I clicked on tasks -> mail, and it
popped up a wizard window to allow me to set up mail
and newsgroups.  But it wouldn't let me select BOTH
mail AND newsgroups for setup...so I selected mail.  Once
I had entered all the mail server info, mozilla crashed
with a segmentation fault.  When I restarted it, mail
worked OK, but I can't get it to let me setup newsgroups.
When I click on edit -> mailnews_account_settings, it only
shows info about mail...there seems to be no way that I can
specify a name for my newsgroup server.

Anyone know how I can get newsgroups working?

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Re: Mailing List and Newsgruops

[Grant Edwards]

On Sun, May 05, 2002 at 08:02:01AM -0700, Paul 'Baloo' Johnson wrote:
> On Sun, 5 May 2002, Keith O'Connell wrote:
> 
> > a: What is the realistic lag between messages in the mailing list
> >and in "linux.debian.user" news group?
> 
> It varies by propagation path.  Not long.  Try muc.linux.debian(?), as
> it's the anointed official mirror group.

At my ISP it's never much longer than 5-10 minutes.

> > b: Do all the messages sent to the mailing list get to the newsgroup?
> 
> Yes.
> 
> > c: Can a person write to the mailing list by posting to the newsgroup?
> 
> Not directly, you'd still have to mail the list.

This sounds like the exact same mechanism used by moderated
newsgroups, but postings to muc.l.d.u don't seem to get mailed
to the list.  Why not set up muc.l.d.u as a moderated group
with postings going to the mailing list?

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Re: KMail Crash - Please Help

[Addis Perez]

On Sunday 05 May 2002 03:38 am, Jatin Golani wrote:
> Has anyone faced a similar problem using KMail?? 

I have not faced a similar problem.

> Are ppl using KMail on Woody with KDE 2.2.2 successfully??? 
> Could you'll please tell me which QT you'll are using? 

I am successfully using KMail 1.3.2 on KDE 2.2.2 with Qt 2.3.1
on Linux kernel 2.4.17.  I hope the different kernel isn't a problem.

I'm afraid I can not suggest a fix for I have not come across that 
problem.

Addis


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Re: Release critical bugs

[Henrique de Moraes Holschuh]

On Sun, 05 May 2002, Richard Kimber wrote:
> Can anyone point me to a definition of what a "release critical bug" is
> and who can determine whether a bug is one? I tried Google and Debian

aj, the release manager for woody is the only one who can determine whether
a bug is one. Others can follow the guidelines, but he has the final say in
the matter.

> Is it really so critical that (to take #145845) gnome-chess won't build on
> an ia64? Or that gnomesword (#145262) has a dependency that Woody doesn't

Yes. If it built before, and doesn't build now, it is a bad bug.  There are
no second-class citizens (read archs) in Debian, all are equally important.

> satisfy?  There will always be some problems with some applications, but

Yes. That means the package cannot be installed.

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  them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond
  where the shadows lie." -- The Silicon Valley Tarot
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Re: Mailing List and Newsgruops

[Paul 'Baloo' Johnson]

On Sun, 5 May 2002, Keith O'Connell wrote:

> a: What is the realistic lag between messages in the mailing list
>and in "linux.debian.user" news group?

It varies by propagation path.  Not long.  Try muc.linux.debian(?), as
it's the anointed official mirror group.

> b: Do all the messages sent to the mailing list get to the newsgroup?

Yes.

> c: Can a person write to the mailing list by posting to the newsgroup?

Not directly, you'd still have to mail the list.

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can't get shosts auth working

[Juergen Fiedler]

Hello,

I am trying to connect to a machine on our LAN with the .shosts 
method, but it seems that my ssh client is not even willing to try
that. My $HOME/.ssh/config looks like this:

---
Host myserver
  HostName myserver.mydomain.net
  Protocol 2
  RhostsRSAAuthentication yes
  RhostsAuthentication yes
  HostbasedAuthentication yes
---

When I try to connect with ssh -v, I get the following output:

---
OpenSSH_3.0.2p1 Debian 1:3.0.2p1-9, SSH protocols 1.5/2.0, OpenSSL
0x0090603f
debug1: Reading configuration data /home/juergen/.ssh/config
debug1: Applying options for cavemaus
debug1: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh/ssh_config
debug1: Applying options for *
debug1: Seeding random number generator
debug1: Rhosts Authentication disabled, originating port will not be
trusted.
debug1: restore_uid
debug1: ssh_connect: getuid 1000 geteuid 0 anon 1
debug1: Connecting to myserver.mydomain.net [XXX.XX.XX.XXX] port
22.
[...]
---

I then get logged in via public key authentication.

Am I correct in assuming that the 'Rhosts Authentication disabled'
line means that the client isn't even going to try the .shosts method?
If so, is there anything I can do to remediate that?

The client system is sid, the server woody and ssh is installed SUID
root on both.

Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance,
Juergen


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Re: move/rename in cvs

[dman]

Thanks all for your tips.

On Fri, May 03, 2002 at 05:07:02PM -0400, Alan Shutko wrote:
| dman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
| 
| > There must be a better way; what is it?
| 
| Ah, fool you.  No, there really isn't a better way,

Too bad.

| which is a big reason subversion  is
| being developed.

Looks interesting, but not for use yet.
 
| > Also, is there a way to create new projects other than
| > 'mkdir $CVSROOT/new_proj'?  I can't checkout a project until it
| > exists, and I can't add a directory unless I have a local sandbox
| > (which is created by a checkout).
| 
| From the manual:
| 
| Creating a directory tree from scratch
| --
[...]

I should have seen that.  Thanks!

-D

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Re: Two users writing to the same file at the same time.

[Alan Shutko]

AE Roy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> And I have a problem; If two teachers deceides to work on the same file at
> the same time, then all changes made by the first to exit will be lost,
> without him noticing.

You might try the suggestions in
http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=4309.  Apparently,
locking isn't enabled by default.  I just tried setting those
environment variables, and when set the second user to open a file
gets it in read-only mode.

I'm CCing the openoffice list.  Maybe these settings should be enabled
by default?

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Re: Linksys NC100 network card

[dman]

On Sun, May 05, 2002 at 12:21:16AM -0500, Dr. Louis A. Turk wrote:
 
| Is there a Debian Linux driver for the Linksys Model NC100 v2 10/100
| Network Card?  Or should I buy a different card?  If I need a
| different card, what is the best and easiest-to-install card?

I saw one of those cards in a store.  I have no idea what chip it
really is (the picture on the box seems to show it as a "nc100" chip).
I just did a google search and found a couple people who said it
doesn't work and a couple that said it works great ('tulip' driver).

I have 2 LNE100TX cards in my machine; one is rev 2.0 the other 4.1,
both are well supported by the tulip driver.

A friend of mine has a DFE-530TX+; it works well with either the
rtl8139/819too or the tulip driver (I forget which one it was).

The NetGear cards work as well (natsemi?).  I have two EA-201 cards in
another machine (ISA bus, NE2000 driver).

It really doesn't matter which card you get as long as the chip on it
is supported by a driver.  The important part is the chip.

-D

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Re: unreadable xterm :)

[andrej hocevar]

On Sun, May 05, 2002 at 03:29:45AM -0700, Paul 'Baloo' Johnson wrote:
> sure.  But it got me interested:  Why is this desirable behaviour?

Because you get a tiny window, approximately 3 cm long, literally
unreadable. But removing any frames the wm normally applies, you get
virtually a black square with white spots. If I use an xterm, it's
almost always to type in commands instead of going through multiple
menus -- so I don't care about output. Besides I can type in my
command blindly, so again no need for feedback. Mozilla, for
instance, pops up and I can type in another command! :) 
That tiny window really looks cool, like a hole in my desktop. And
imagine it on black background! 
No, seriously, you *can* use it for what I described above.

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Re: Two users writing to the same file at the same time.

[Richard Cobbe]

Lo, on Saturday, May 4, AE Roy did write:

> I've set up my system with 15 computers and 60 users so that they have a
> directory where they all can share files, under /home/staff, I have
> them belongign to the group teacher who is the owner of /home/staff, and
> the GUID is set on /home/staff.
>
> And I have a problem; If two teachers deceides to work on the same file at
> the same time, then all changes made by the first to exit will be lost,
> without him noticing.

Yup.  Standard race condition.

> I know CVS, but thats not an option. People I've talked to that know MS
> say that in MS under the same situation, you'd gett a warning when someone
> already had that file open, does anything similar exist for linux?
> They all use OpenOffice.org to write these files.

First, why is CVS not an option?  Is it because you're working with
binary files?

Second: AFAIK, no, nothing similar to MS's behavior (``another program
already has this file open'') exists for Linux, unless you implement it
yourself.  It's a fundamental difference in the semantics of the
filesystem interface.  The Unix/Linux answer is to provide a separate
synchronization mechanism to prevent the race condition from occurring.
It's up to the appliation.  Most version-control systems like CVS, RCS,
et al do this.  If OpenOffice doesn't provide this functionality
already, using some sort of lockfile as another poster suggested is
the only other alternative I can think of.

HTH,

Richard


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Re: Not parseable as a System.map?

[Fu-Dong Chiou]

Hi,

On my machine,

bash$ file /boot/System.map-2.2.5-15
/boot/System.map-2.2.5-15: ASCII text

This problem came up after I had to restore my backup install to eradicate some 
hacker's backdoor software.

Chip

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> On Sun, May 05, 2002 at 01:31:48AM -0400, Fu-Dong Chiou wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I am getting the following error messages,
> > 
> > bash# ps
> > Warning: /boot/System.map-2.2.5-15 not parseable as a System.map
> > Warning: /boot/System.map not parseable as a System.map
> > USER   PID %CPU %MEM   VSZ  RSS TTY  STAT START   TIME COMMAND
> > ...
> > 
> > when I run top or ps (the message also shows up at boot time).  Can anyone 
> > tell 
> > me what went wrong and do I fix it?  Thanks!
> > 
> > Best wishes,
> > Chip 
> > 
> 
> 
> On my machine:
> $ file /boot/System.map-2.2.20
> /boot/System.map-2.2.20: Linux kernel symbol map text
> $
> 
> One possibility might be that something went wrong when installing a
> kernel. Installing the kernel again might solve it. You might want to 
> take notes of the actual steps you follow in order to install the 
> kernel so that if the problem will not get solved it will be easier
> to find whether it was the problem and if it was, what was the 
> offending operation.
> 
> 
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> email: shaulka(replace with the at - @ - character)bezeqint.net 
> 


Best wishes,
Chip 

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Re: Mailing List and Newsgruops

[dsr]

On Sun, May 05, 2002 at 01:28:39PM +, Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Keith O'Connell  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >As must be apparent, I am thinking of taking this mailing list via
> >newsgroups and I just want to see the down side, if any.
> 
> It might work but my guess is that it is not nearly as reliable.

A more reliable method would be to run your own email <-> usenet gateway,
taking in messages from the list and your users, and sending out only
messages from your users.

-dsr-


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Re: Sorting data points

[Tinus Kotze]

On Sun 05 May 02 16:03, DSC Siltec wrote:
> Deosaran Bisnath wrote:
> > I am new to linux g++ & am not sure how to do this. Your help is
> > most welcome
> >
> > there are about 50 data points like this, x and y
> >
> > x y
> > 2.4  1
> > 67.21   2
> > 1.9   3
> > 211.45  4
> >
> > I want to sort x in ascending or descending order so the above are
> > arranged like this:
> >
> > x  y
> > 211.45  4
> > 67.212
> > 2.41
> > 1.93
> >
> > what is the fastest way to do this? thanks
>
> The fastest way probably isn't well published.
> First of all, to increase speed, use indexes.  That is, you don't
> change the
> order of the list items -- rather, each list has not only an X entry
> and a Y entry, but also 4 other entries "Previous item on X list",
> "Next item on X list", "Previous item on Y list", "Next item on Y
> list".  Then you have 4 other indexes:  "First item on X list", "Last
> item on X list"... and so on.
>
> Aside from that, if you are going to be deleting items, you should
> also keep a trash list as well.
>
> This all prevents you from having to move whole lists of data. 
> Rather, you just change the pointers and go on.
>
>  Now  here's the algorithm for the *FASTEST* sort of a
> general nature.
>
> What do I mean by fastest?  The number of compares approaches the
> magical
> number of data reduction, Log-2-N.  Let's see.
>
> (1) Go through the items in pairs.  Compare the first item with the
> second item in each pair.  If the first item comes before the second
> item, then leave it alone.  If the first item comes after the second
> item, then swap them.
>
> (2) Now go through the list in pairs of pairs.  Compare the top two
> items from the list, and make the first item first.  Now compare the
> "loser" with the next item in the previous winner's list.  Make the
> next item second.  Now -- if both winners came from the same list,
> then you're done with that "pair of pairs".  If both winners came
> from a different list, then you need one more compare.
>
> So now you should have groups of 4 that are each ordered.
>
> (3) Now go through the list in pairs of "4s".  Take two groups of
> four, and compare the top items.  Keep the winner, and compare the
> loser to the item below the winner.  Keep that winner, and advance
> through both "stacks" of numbers until one stack is exhausted.  Then
> stack the remainder on the bottom.
>
> (4) Subsequently go through the list in pairs of 8s, 16s, etc...  If
> at the end of the list you don't have a power of 2, it doesn't
> matter. Just do your compares until one stack runs out, and stack the
> rest on the bottom of that resultant stack.  Eventually, you will
> have a single stack, all sorted.
>
> You will best be able to understand this method by trying it with a
> deck of cards.  First do it with 16 cards (A-2-3-... 10,J,Q,13 of
> hearts, and 2-3-4 of spades).  Then try it with the full deck.  Then
> go program it.
>
>
>  - Michael

Just for interest sake, are you refering to the quicksort algoritm, or 
another. 

Tinus


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Hauppage WinTV Go -- howto?

[Rohan Deshpande]

Hi there,

I was just wondering if anyone knew how to set up a PCI WinTV card in
Debian Linux Unstable.  Any pointers would be appreciated. 

Thanks much!
-Rohan


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Re: Sorting data points

[DSC Siltec]

Deosaran Bisnath wrote:
> 
> I am new to linux g++ & am not sure how to do this. Your help is most
> welcome
> 
> there are about 50 data points like this, x and y
> 
> x y
> 2.4  1
> 67.21   2
> 1.9   3
> 211.45  4
> 
> I want to sort x in ascending or descending order so the above are arranged
> like this:
> 
> x  y
> 211.45  4
> 67.212
> 2.41
> 1.93
> 
> what is the fastest way to do this? thanks

The fastest way probably isn't well published.
First of all, to increase speed, use indexes.  That is, you don't change
the 
order of the list items -- rather, each list has not only an X entry and
a Y entry, but also 4 other entries "Previous item on X list", "Next
item on X list", "Previous item on Y list", "Next item on Y list".  Then
you have 4 other indexes:  "First item on X list", "Last item on X
list"... and so on.  

Aside from that, if you are going to be deleting items, you should also
keep a trash list as well.  

This all prevents you from having to move whole lists of data.  Rather,
you just change the pointers and go on.

 Now  here's the algorithm for the *FASTEST* sort of a general
nature.  

What do I mean by fastest?  The number of compares approaches the
magical
number of data reduction, Log-2-N.  Let's see.

(1) Go through the items in pairs.  Compare the first item with the
second item in each pair.  If the first item comes before the second
item, then leave it alone.  If the first item comes after the second
item, then swap them.

(2) Now go through the list in pairs of pairs.  Compare the top two
items from the list, and make the first item first.  Now compare the
"loser" with the next item in the previous winner's list.  Make the next
item second.  Now -- if both winners came from the same list, then
you're done with that "pair of pairs".  If both winners came from a
different list, then you need one more compare.

So now you should have groups of 4 that are each ordered.

(3) Now go through the list in pairs of "4s".  Take two groups of four,
and compare the top items.  Keep the winner, and compare the loser to
the item below the winner.  Keep that winner, and advance through both
"stacks" of numbers until one stack is exhausted.  Then stack the
remainder on the bottom.

(4) Subsequently go through the list in pairs of 8s, 16s, etc...  If at
the end of the list you don't have a power of 2, it doesn't matter. 
Just do your compares until one stack runs out, and stack the rest on
the bottom of that resultant stack.  Eventually, you will have a single
stack, all sorted.

You will best be able to understand this method by trying it with a deck
of cards.  First do it with 16 cards (A-2-3-... 10,J,Q,13 of hearts, and
2-3-4 of spades).  Then try it with the full deck.  Then go program it.


 - Michael


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Re: Release critical bugs

[J.H.M. Dassen \(Ray\)]

On Sun, May 05, 2002 at 13:48:18 +0100, Richard Kimber wrote:
> Can anyone point me to a definition of what a "release critical bug" is

A bug that makes a package unsuitable for release, i.e. that has severity
"critical", "grave" or "serious".

> and who can determine whether a bug is one?

Determine whether it qualifies for one of those severities; see
http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Developer#severities .

> The number of release critical bugs has gone up by about 20 in the last
> week, yet some of these do not seem to me to be so important that they
> should delay the official release of 3.0

A release-critical bug is a bug that makes a package unsuitable for release.
That does not automatically imply that such a bug holds up the release. The
release manager can, and does occasionally, remove packages with
release-critical bugs from the candidate release tree.

> Is it really so critical that (to take #145845) gnome-chess won't build on
> an ia64?

Yes. First of all we don't treat non-x86 as second class citizens. Second,
that problem wasn't ia64-specific. It affected source builds on every
platform, including x86. A fixed version is now in Incoming.

> Or that gnomesword (#145262) has a dependency that Woody doesn't satisfy?

IMO yes, but that opinion isn't shared by the release manager (see
http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2002/debian-devel-200205/msg00206.html).

> There will always be some problems with some applications, but my idea of
> "release critical" pertains more to the essential functioning of the
> system and to the major applications that a high proportion of users
> actually use. These examples make me feel that the definition is perhaps a
> little too broad.

Yes, and these discussions remind me of back-seat drivers.
http://www.debian.org/devel/join/ is your friend.

Ray
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Re: Release critical bugs

[Jamin W . Collins]

On Sun, 5 May 2002 13:48:18 +0100
"Richard Kimber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Can anyone point me to a definition of what a "release critical bug" is

http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Developer

Near the end of the "Severity levels" section. 

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Re: Mailing List and Newsgruops

[Miquel van Smoorenburg]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Keith O'Connell  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Can someone advise me, assuming a "good" newsgroup feed\supplier,
>
>a: What is the realistic lag between messages in the mailing list
>   and in "linux.debian.user" news group?

No idea.

>b: Do all the messages sent to the mailing list get to the newsgroup?

No idea, but see below.

>c: Can a person write to the mailing list by posting to the newsgroup?

Depends if your news server is configured correctly, the groups should
be moderated, and the moderator address should be the  correct gateway.

The problem however with these linux.* groups is that it appears
several people are running mail2news gateways; and not all of them
post to linux.*. And due to how Usenet works, if a debian-user post
is gatewayed to myprovider.local.debian.user and it somehow still
ends up at your provider or their upstream, that message-id is
flagged as 'seen'. If the same message later shows up in
linux.debian.user it will NOT get posted to that group on newssservers
that already have a message with that message-id in another group.

>As must be apparent, I am thinking of taking this mailing list via
>newsgroups and I just want to see the down side, if any.

It might work but my guess is that it is not nearly as reliable.

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Release critical bugs

[Richard Kimber]

Can anyone point me to a definition of what a "release critical bug" is
and who can determine whether a bug is one? I tried Google and Debian
searches, but couldn't find anything.

The number of release critical bugs has gone up by about 20 in the last
week, yet some of these do not seem to me to be so important that they
should delay the official release of 3.0

Is it really so critical that (to take #145845) gnome-chess won't build on
an ia64? Or that gnomesword (#145262) has a dependency that Woody doesn't
satisfy?  There will always be some problems with some applications, but
my idea of "release critical" pertains more to the essential functioning
of the system and to the major applications that a high proportion of
users actually use. These examples make me feel that the definition is
perhaps a little too broad.

- Richard.
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Mailing List and Newsgruops

[Keith O'Connell]

Hi,

Can someone advise me, assuming a "good" newsgroup feed\supplier,

a: What is the realistic lag between messages in the mailing list
   and in "linux.debian.user" news group?

b: Do all the messages sent to the mailing list get to the newsgroup?

c: Can a person write to the mailing list by posting to the newsgroup?

As must be apparent, I am thinking of taking this mailing list via newsgroups 
and I just want to see the down side, if any.

Keith
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Re: CDwriter

[Florian Struck]

On Saturday 04 May 2002 05:12, Osamu Aoki wrote:

-snip-

>
> Good for you.  You must be running 2.4 kernel on woody, I guess.

SID 2.4.18-custom

-snip-

> You can always recompile but learning to do without tends to be more
> productive in long run, I think.
>
> You can do "insmod" or "modprobe" to activate most modules using stock
> debian kernels including "sr_mod".  This means more entries to
> /etc/modules.
>
> I am kind of sad people jump on recompiling kernel when they do not need
> it do it :(  Debian reference:

Well i do have a few comments:

1.) I'm pretty sure that your right! (for the user who depends on his stable 
pc system for work and productivity)

2.) I have been now 3 years into linux (not so very long as you can see, call 
me a newbie =)) i have been using Mandrake the first 2 years and i allways 
used precompiled kernel images but i have to say that what i learned about 
linux in that time was (beside usability) not really satisfying. I heard 
people talking about kernel all the time and i thought they were talking 
about the army =). Then i tryed Debian and in the first two weeks i learned 
more about this fantastik OS than in the whole two years before. and after 2 
months i built my first own kernel (wasnt really such a big deal) using 
kernel-package, after two tries i had it up and running (i know my hardware) 
now this new kernel was amaizingly fast (depmod -a took only a fraction of a 
second, i got my geforce2 up to 2500 FPS in glxgears, and the bootup goes 
much quicker cause i dont have stuff loaded (pnp etc.) that i didnt need) the 
overall size of /lib/modules/2.4.18 is only 2.8 MB.
So you see that im playing Debian instead of UnrealTournament and im learning 
by doing. And im not recompiling every weekend or so but i just got a burner 
into the box and had no scsi-support atleast now i know what REALLY is needed 
in the kernel for burning.

conclusion:
I think you have to differenciate between users who depend on reliabillity and 
users who experiment and play with there machines cause they wanna learn 
something thats why i use SID.

ps: i do not recommend doing it same way as me except if youre brave and do 
not depend on the stabillity of your pc. 

-snip-

Cheers
Florian


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devfs joystick question

[Paul 'Baloo' Johnson]

Just what *is* the path to the joystick device in /dev under devfs?  I
do have my modules installed for it and everything, though I compiled
them post-reboot...

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Re: Linksys NC100 network card

[ben]

On Sunday 05 May 2002 03:56 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Sun, May 05, 2002 at 12:21:16AM -0500, Dr. Louis A. Turk wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Is there a Debian Linux driver for the Linksys Model NC100 v2 10/100
> > Network Card?  Or should I buy a different card?  If I need a different
> > card, what is the best and easiest-to-install card?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Louis
>
> I do not know the specific card you are querying about.
> However in case you won't get more satisfactory reply you might want
> to try the Ethernet HOWTO and searching google groups.
> Hopefully someone else can give a better answer.
>

try donald becker's tulip driver. it's worked for others using various 
linksys cards.

ben


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Re: Not parseable as a System.map?

[shaulka]

On Sun, May 05, 2002 at 01:31:48AM -0400, Fu-Dong Chiou wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I am getting the following error messages,
> 
> bash# ps
> Warning: /boot/System.map-2.2.5-15 not parseable as a System.map
> Warning: /boot/System.map not parseable as a System.map
> USER   PID %CPU %MEM   VSZ  RSS TTY  STAT START   TIME COMMAND
> ...
> 
> when I run top or ps (the message also shows up at boot time).  Can anyone 
> tell 
> me what went wrong and do I fix it?  Thanks!
> 
> Best wishes,
> Chip 
> 


On my machine:
$ file /boot/System.map-2.2.20
/boot/System.map-2.2.20: Linux kernel symbol map text
$

One possibility might be that something went wrong when installing a
kernel. Installing the kernel again might solve it. You might want to 
take notes of the actual steps you follow in order to install the 
kernel so that if the problem will not get solved it will be easier
to find whether it was the problem and if it was, what was the 
offending operation.


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Re: Linksys NC100 network card

[shaulka]

On Sun, May 05, 2002 at 12:21:16AM -0500, Dr. Louis A. Turk wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Is there a Debian Linux driver for the Linksys Model NC100 v2 10/100 
> Network Card?  Or should I buy a different card?  If I need a different 
> card, what is the best and easiest-to-install card?
> 
> Thanks,
> Louis
> 


I do not know the specific card you are querying about.
However in case you won't get more satisfactory reply you might want
to try the Ethernet HOWTO and searching google groups.
Hopefully someone else can give a better answer.


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Re: unreadable xterm :)

[Paul 'Baloo' Johnson]

On Sun, 5 May 2002, andrej hocevar wrote:

> Can I start xterm in unreadable mode by default or with a certain
> option? I mean unreadable as when chosen with ctrl+right click
> "Unreadable".

My guess is it's one of the many things xterm does, but I don't know for
sure.  But it got me interested:  Why is this desirable behaviour?

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unreadable xterm :)

[andrej hocevar]

Can I start xterm in unreadable mode by default or with a certain
option? I mean unreadable as when chosen with ctrl+right click
"Unreadable".

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Re: What is udeb?

[Colin Watson]

On Sun, May 05, 2002 at 10:12:37AM +0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>   kernel-image-2.4.18-386-udeb_2.4.18-5_i386.udeb

It's a micro-package for use in debian-installer, the new installation
system which is intended to replace the existing one for the release
after woody. debian-installer is designed in a very modular way, and
constructs the installation interface out of these micro-packages,
taking them either from the floppy/CD or from the network.

(I'm not sure you should expect to be able to try out d-i yet though.)

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Some windows do and some windows don't (in sawfish)

[andrej hocevar]

Hello,
how do I force some windows (e.g. wmMoonClock and an xterm) to always
open without a frame in sawfish? Or, maybe, open them without a
frame only the first time? 
The best would be if there were a way to do it with some option in
my .xsession, like xterm --no-frame. :)

andrej

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Re: where can I find 'play' progran

[David Roundy]

On Sun, May 05, 2002 at 12:40:22AM -0700, craigw wrote:
> On Sun May 05, 2002 at 03:25:09PM +0800, Willy Sutrisno wrote:
> > hi,
> > 
> > I am using Potato, I need to play a wav sound. Surprisingly I can not
> > find a 'play' program. I tried to look for it in dselect, but I can't
> > find it. I went to packages.debian.org, also no result.
> > 
> > Can anyone tell me, what is the name of package that contains 'play'
> > program.
> > 
> /usr/bin/wavp
> it is part of wavtools
> apt-get install wavtools

sox has a program called 'play' which is rather nice.  Plays just about any
kind of sound format, or at least quite a few of them.
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Re: SoftwareRaid + Root + Boot with FastTrak100

[Eduard Bloch]

Moin guennelk!
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb am Sunday, den 05. May 2002:

> > Why? Woody-Install with bf2.4-based boot-floppies does support ATARAID
> > out-of-the-box.
> > 
> I know but not the FastTrak special or only as module 

Explain why. Did you try the bf2.4 flavor? If it does not work, report
it (the thing has been designed to support such hardware)!

> No, I only want to use RAID1 and RAID5.
> I use the Debian kernel-sources-2.4.18 to compile and did not get any
> extras.

Ah, you want Linux-Raid, not ATARAID. That is another story.

> # CONFIG_DMA_NONPCI is not set
> CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDE_MODES=y
> CONFIG_BLK_DEV_ATARAID=y
> CONFIG_BLK_DEV_ATARAID_PDC=y

Well, this is for hardware/software-controlled mode, windows-compatible.
But I still cannot undestand what you are going to do. linux-raid on top
of ataraid? On top of regular block device access (partitions)?

> Thats what I did. lilo.conf:
> 
> disk=/dev/hda
>   bios=0x80
> disk=/dev/ataraid/d0
>   bios=0x81 sectors=63 heads=255 cylinders=29904
> partition=/dev/ataraid/d0p1

Should work even without the geometry specification.

> boot=/dev/hda (it shoud be /dev/ataraid/d0 or /dev/hde ?)

Well, where do you want to have the MBR? If you initialised your
harddisks in ATARAID mode within the controller bios, you MUST NOT touch
the partitions "raw". Means: MBR of virutial ataraid drive is the MBR
seen in the boot environment. But ataraid has nothing to do with
Linux-Raid, even if it works in similar way.

> > So what now, hde or ataraid?
>  
> I would like to use SoftwareRAID only, but I think to boot at least with
> LILO, I first have to use ataraid but I am not sure. 

If you goal is redudancy, use a small / partition, with 200meg or so, on
one of the disks, and setup all other partitions with Linux-Raid. Later,
you can symlink parts of the raid volume to /usr, /var, /home, or even
use bind-mounts with kernel 2.4...

/vol1/usr on /usr type none (rw,bind)
/vol1/var on /var type none (rw,bind)
/vol1/home on /home type none (rw,bind)

> > Well, I implemented and tested booting of ATARAID on a Highpoint Raid
> > controller (very similar), works fine with Woody now.
>  
> Do you have the controller onboard or a PCI-card ?

It was an onboard (extra) controller, Highpoint-Raid-370. But I was told
it works the same way as Promise products, onboard as well as on
external cards. Well, I do not have this hardware any longer.

> Do you use Lilo or any other Boot-Loader ?

The disks were running in raid0 mode, configured in the Highpoint bios.
BIOS was configured to boot from "external/scsi controller", the MBR was
installed into the MBR of the new virtuall harddisk, /dev/ataraid/d0.
Unfortunately, only Raid0 mode is supported by the linux driver, so I
was not able to test the redundancy.

Gruss/Regards,
Eduard.
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Bug-Report: packet-description to dvidvi

[Hermann-Josef Beckers]

> 
> >  Found Description-line: Description: Manipulate .dvi files.
> > ERROR: found a line beginning with a space, a full stop !
> >and one char!
> >This is not allowed! Please, change your description
> >and resend it to the server!
> >If the error is in the orignal description,
> >please write a bug report!)
> >The line is:  .dvi file.
> 
> >># Package(s): dvidvi
> >># Translator: Meinolf Sander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>
> >>Description: Manipulate .dvi files.
> >> Allows you to select, change the order, and/or shift the pages in a
> >> .dvi file.
> >> .
> >> The main use is to print an a5 booklet on A4 paper, in such a way
> >> that you can put a staple through the bundle.  A shell script that
> >> does just that is provided.


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Re: Networking - still could not telnet in

[Paul 'Baloo' Johnson]

On Sun, 5 May 2002, shyamk wrote:

> I am actually confused on how to read the situation.

apt-get install telnetd?

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Re: OpenOffice question

[Paul 'Baloo' Johnson]

On Sun, 5 May 2002, Gary Turner wrote:

> >apt-get install j2re1.4 openoffice.org
>  ^^^ s/b j2re1.3, no?

Yeah.  I typo'ed.  Could you trim your quotes down so it's easier to
read and respond to, please?


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Re: Two users writing to the same file at the same time.

[Alex Malinovich]

On Sun, 2002-05-05 at 01:55, AE Roy wrote:
> I've set up my system with 15 computers and 60 users so that they have a
> directory where they all can share files, under /home/staff, I have
> them belongign to the group teacher who is the owner of /home/staff, and
> the GUID is set on /home/staff.
> 
> And I have a problem; If two teachers deceides to work on the same file at
> the same time, then all changes made by the first to exit will be lost,
> without him noticing.
> 
> This situation happens rarly, and when it does they don't know who's to
> blame (me) and so I've manged to overcome the problem, but I need to solve
> this.
> 
> I know CVS, but thats not an option. People I've talked to that know MS
> say that in MS under the same situation, you'd gett a warning when someone
> already had that file open, does anything similar exist for linux?
> They all use OpenOffice.org to write these files.

I'd imagine that OpenOffice has some sort of mechanism built in to
handle these sorts of situations (I don't use OpenOffice myself), but in
case it doesn't, I'd suggest looking at "lockfile". You'd have to handle
the opening and closing of the files through a script for this to be
effective however.

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Allowing sound only from console

[Paul 'Baloo' Johnson]

2.4.18, devfs, ext3.
How do I get it so only people sitting at the console can use audio?

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Re: where can I find 'play' progran

[craigw]

On Sun May 05, 2002 at 03:25:09PM +0800, Willy Sutrisno wrote:
> hi,
> 
> I am using Potato, I need to play a wav sound. Surprisingly I can not find a
> 'play' program. I tried to look for it in dselect, but I can't find it. I went
> to packages.debian.org, also no result.
> 
> Can anyone tell me, what is the name of package that contains 'play' program.
> 
/usr/bin/wavp
it is part of wavtools
apt-get install wavtools
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