date:20020520

On Mon, May 20, 2002 at 02:25:59AM -0700, Alvin Oga wrote:
> hi ya
> a nice picture of what causes a system to fail... disks or ???
>   http://www.Linux-1U.net/Disks/Disk_Failure.gif
>   ( its from an IDC survey )
> ( the picture stolen/copied from 
> http://safersite.net/NSS15AFaultTolerantUsersStoragePowerandNetworks.htm
>   - but it seems they moved that url...

That is completely outside my experience. 

I've had users nuke the operating system, but the computer
didn't fail, the OS did. A fresh install and everything but the
users data was peachy. 

Those 15 75Gig IBM drives OTOH...

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Re: Recommended tape backup software - tape vs disk

On Mon, May 20, 2002 at 12:10:34AM -0700, Peter Whysall wrote:
> On Mon, 2002-05-20 at 06:22, Alvin Oga wrote:
> > --- if the disks is raid5'd ... give one disk
> > --- to each of the CEO/CFO/CTO/foo/bar and no one user
> > --- has all the data... no way for stealing corp secrets
 
> That's innovative, but impractical.

No, it's a great idea, but you can do the same thing even more
safely with tapes. 

> A terabyte is 10 AIT-3 tapes. How many disks is it?

10 120 gig IDE drives. 

Each with lots of electronics to fail. 


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Re: Recommended tape backup software - tape vs disk

On Sun, May 19, 2002 at 05:24:55PM -0700, Alvin Oga wrote:
> 160GB ide disks is $150-$200 range... cheap...
>   - 1Terabyte of backup in one 1u chassis.. no problem...
>   and i do compressed backups of up to 3 or 6 months... dpeending
>   on diskspace they willing ot buy and user data

Pull 10 160GB disks out of your array to swap them for another set
(offline DR archive). 

Drop one disk on a concrete floor.

Pull 20 tapes out of the drive. 

Drop one tape on the floor. 

Which has a better chance of surviving? 

This list has gone round and round on this at least twice in the
last 4 months. 

When you're backing up terabytes, archiving for legal reasons, etc.
modern tapes are more than adequite, and less expensive (in real
terms) than drives. 

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Re: OT: regexp spam filter

2002-05-20 Thread Gary Turner

On Mon, 20 May 2002 14:19:28 -0700, Alan Su wrote:

>the following regexp *should work:
>
> 217\.78\.(6(4|5|6|7|8|9)|7(0|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9))\.[0-9]+
>
snip
>Gary Turner wrote (Mon, 20 May 2002 16:11:00 -0500 ):

>|> I want
>|>to block a Nigerian domain (I wonder why?) whose IP block is 217.78.64.0
>|>- 217.78.79.255.

My thanks, Alan and Colin.  My own efforts looked much like Colin's
examples.  I still feel that they are the more concise/elegant way to
go.  There must be some syntactical error I am missing (from the
viewpoint of Agent's handling of regexp's).  That calls for another
session of RTFM. :)  As it happens, neither of Colin's examples worked.
(And, I don't see why not.)

Alan's, OTOH, did work, and is in my kill filter.  I suppose that this
proves the old 'whack it back 'til it works' theorem---or, simplify,
simplify, simplify.
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Re: plptools and Diamond Mako

2002-05-20 Thread Brian

Oh.  Thanks.  Is there a way to find out all programs that are included 
in a .deb pkg?  If I do man plpftp, the "See Also" section shows ncpd 
and plpftp.  Not plpbackup, etc.   Course, the problem goes beyond plptools.

Brian

csj wrote:


On Mon, 20 May 2002 08:30:11 -0700
Brian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Do you backup your files in some automated fashion using plpftp?  That 
would be a benefit of "mounting as a nfs partition", but I am still 
messing with it.




The version  of plptools (0.10-1) I have includes a utility named
plpbackup.





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Re: Identical installations on several machines

On Fri, May 17, 2002 at 06:09:03PM -0700, Petr Vanek wrote:
> On Fri, May 17, 2002 at 03:47:06PM -0700, David Wright wrote:
> > 
> > A# dpkg --get-selections > selections
> > A# scp selections B:
> > A# ssh B
> > B# dpkg --set-selections < selections
> > B# dselect install remove
> > 
> > Keep in mind though, this will not reproduce the CONFIGURATIONS, just
> the
> > PACKAGES. You could try
> > 
> > B# rsync -e ssh -a A:/etc /
> > 
> > to get /etc synch'd, but some things (e.g. /etc/hostname) you don't
> want
> > synch'd, and then there are some things in /var you want synch'd (and
> > others you don't). This isn't quite such an easy problem. It is
> solvable
> > (I know -- I do it with 6 machines), but it requires some thoughtful
> > script construction.
> 
> does any daemon do that? i mean, is there any other way of doing sync of
> packages?

Check out SystemImager and FAI. They are both tools to maintain
"clusters" of machines and do semi-automatic or fully-automatic
installations.

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Re: wrapping [was: Re: disable paragraph flows in mozilla?]

On Fri, May 17, 2002 at 08:34:20PM -0700, Paul 'Baloo' Johnson wrote:
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> 
> On Sat, 18 May 2002, Hans Ekbrand wrote:
> 
> > Although I actually have a terminal (can't say I use it much though),
> > I sometimes wonder if email conventions should be derived from
> > limitations of such ancient hardware. In some sense, its a good
> > practice to require as little as possible from the clients, but is
> > 80x25 a limit that anyone is facing anymore?
> 
> Yes.  I'm at work right now on a VT100.  People still use old hardware
> and will likely still use old hardware for as long as they can be
> repaired and pressed into service (read: indefinately, terminals are
> pretty damn robust).

I missed this the first time around, but:

I have 3 or 4 machines at home that I may use at any given time to
read Usenet or Email. A PII 233 with 198 meg of ram runing Debian
Woody, a P233 with 128 meg of ram running Redhat something old, a
PowerMac G4 with 768 meg of ram running OSX, and usually something
else, from a Windows laptop to a Tadpole to whatever. 

I still have the 80x25 problem, since often I'm using Mutt or SLRN.

It's not your place to decide for me what software or hardware I
must use to read your usenet postings, although it might be
acceptable to place a certain minimal level of ability, however it
most certainly is *NOT* acceptable for you to dictate what my email
software must be able to accomodate beyond the requirements of the
relevant RFC. 

Which is still  822, last time I checked. 

Now that you've probably gotten all huffy, no, I don't mean "you"
specifically, I mean "you" in the Outlook using, javascript-RTF
enhanced non-RFC compliant email sending twits out there. If you
fall in to that category, then...

> > I guess new limits come with pocket computers, mobile telephones, and
> > whatever means people read their mail with these days.
> Pocket computers gracefully rewrap text (usually) so they're not an
> issue (though it would be nice if the email software that comes with it
> would respect the 72 column rule even if it doesn't display it).  I
> don't see anybody reading on thier telephones.  I mean, yeah, I'm going

Funny, my Mobile Phone came with Eudora installed on it. I'm waiting
for the USB sync cable so's I can try it out. 

> Though one time I got a hold of my roommate's cellphone and subscribed
> him to a few high traffic lists on it.  It took him a couple days before
> he realised it wasn't going to stop on it's own and he'd have to go for
> it himself.  Nice part about those three days is you couldn't lose him,
> he was beeping every couple minutes.  (He got me back by pouring out my
> Molsons and refilling the bottles with Coors, though everybody in the
> house said that was below the belt: You simply don't subject *anyone* to
> American beer[1])

He's a nice guy. I'd have urinated in them. Though with beer it'd be
hard to tell the difference. 

> > So, a better argument for wrapping lines at 72 chars would perhaps be
> > that it make the text easier to read (even if you have real screen
> > estate that could handle a lot more).

No, the best argument is that accessability is more important than
form, and there is only one form that is considered a baseline
default--80 columns width max. 

> [1] There's a difference between American beer and Oregonian beer,
> though, Widmer Brothers and McMenamins are still good; Henry Weinhards
> used to be good until they sold out to Miller, they're brewed out of St.
> Louis and the formula changed: it tastes like Miller Lite now.

Beer is beer. Budwiser makes more beer because they have bigger
horses, that's all. 

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Re: font troubles in sid

2002-05-20 Thread James Hughes

On Mon, May 20, 2002 at 05:04:06PM -0400, Hubert Chan wrote:
> > "James" == James Hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> James> Hi, A while ago, after doing an upgrade, I noticed that fonts in
> James> galeon where displaying as rectangles. ...
> 
> This is probably because gtk is trying to use the Unicode codepage.  Try
> changing it to another codepage, like iso8859-1.  If you use GNOME, you
> can do that in the GNOME control center, under themes.  
> 
Well, that was easy :]. Thanks to all.

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Re: Same bookmark file for Galeon and Mozilla?

2002-05-20 Thread Jerome Acks Jr

On Mon, May 20, 2002 at 12:32:37PM +0200, Balazs Javor wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Is it possible to use the same bookmark file for both Galeon and Mozilla?
> 
> I often find it difficult to decide which one I should use.
> Galeon seems to be the better choice, but it also tends to crash more often :(
> The problem is that if I use one of them for a while I always have to
> update my bookmarks in the other. It would be much nicer if they could
> share a common file...

Not exactly the same file, but you can sync your mozilla and galeon
bookmarks. If you select "edit bookmarks" in galeon, you can import
bookmarks from mozilla.  "Save As..." will allow you to export bookmarks
in mozilla format.
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Re: latex->xpdf

2002-05-20 Thread Tom Cook

Thanks to all who responded.  pdflatex is a tool which someone told me
about, but which I couldn't find (I was looking for latexpdf or
latex2pdf or something of the like, since that is the way all the
other converters are named).  Changing /etc/texmf/dvips/updmap to
type1_default=true also fixed the problem, but using
latex->dvips->ps2pdf is a far more roundabout method than pdflatex.

Now all my text appears beautifully in both xpdf and acroread (using
pdflatex), BUT... I also have some bitmapped eps files I am
including.  These are graphs (simulink output, actually) which I had
to screengrab on an NT box, using Gimp for win32, save as a jpeg (the
NT gimp I have access to doesn't do eps, and it's not about to change)
email it to my debian box, open it in the Gimp, save it as eps, and
then use the psfig package to include it in my document.  Now, if I
use pdflatex then the eps figures don't display in either acroread or
xpdf; there is the correct space reserved for them, but it is just
blank.  If I use latex->dvips->ps2pdf then acroread displays them
correctly but not xpdf.  Does anyone have any ideas on that one?

Tom

On  0, Tom Cook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I am fairly new to latex, so this could easily be something I am doing
> wierd, but...
> 
> When I use latex to convert a source file into a dvi, the dvi looks
> great.  Then when I use either dvips->gs or dvipdf to convert the dvi
> into a pdf, the pdf looks OK in acroread but unintelligable in xpdf.
> It just comes out as a series of lines of dots on the page.  The
> commands I am using are:
> 
> # latex source.tex
> # dvips source.dvi
> # gs -sOutputFile=source.pdf -sDEVICE=pdfwrite source.ps
> 
> or
> 
> # dvipdf source.dvi source.pdf
> 
> Any ideas on why xpdf is barfing?
> 
> Tom

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Re: wrapping [was: Re: disable paragraph flows in mozilla?]

On Fri, May 17, 2002 at 06:47:25PM -0500, Richard Cobbe wrote:
> Lo, on Saturday, May 18, Hans Ekbrand did write:
> > On Fri, May 17, 2002 at 03:40:47PM -0700, Vineet Kumar wrote:
> True; it's long been understood in the professional typesetting
> community that lines which are too long are difficult to read.  I've
> even seen discussions of what `too long' means---I think it's a function
> of how long the font's em-space is, but I don't remember the details off
> the top of my head.

It's a function of Typeface, leading, and kerning. 

Tightly set lines (little space between letters, and little space
between lines) need shorter lines. Loosely set lines (opening up the
space between the lines, and opening up the letter spacing a bit
(but, obviously not too much)) can be longer. 

> (Add this to the fact that most on-screen computer fonts, IMO, don't
> have enough leading, and you've got serious legibility problems.)

The typefaces don't do the leading (well, sort of but not really),
it's the application that decides it. 

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Problem With vsftpd - "tunable_ftp_username" ???

2002-05-20 Thread Nick

I just replaced the ordinary ftpd as supplied with my Debian Woody/Pre
system by the vsftpd deb in Testing, but now can't actually run any
FTP sessions because vsftpd dies every time I connect, as follows :

# ftp django
Connected to django.mydomain.org.
500 OOPS: vsftpd: cannot locate user specified in
'tunable_ftp_username'
ftp> bye

I took a real guess and added the directive 
  tunable_ftp_username=nobody
to my vsftpd.conf (*guessing* because the identifier
"tunable_ftp_username" doesn't appear anywhere in either the man page,
or the supplied config file), and now I get :

# ftp django
Connected to django.mydomain.org.
500 OOPS: unrecognised variable in config file

Anyone know what on earth is going on here ?
Or what the unrecognised variable might be ?
Or why vsftpd gives such cryptic error messages ;-) ?
Anybody else have vsftpd running happily on Debian Woody ?

The deb installed is :
ii  vsftpd 1.0.0-2The Very Secure FTP Daemon

TIA
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Re: latex->xpdf

2002-05-20 Thread John Griffiths

>Hmm.  I just ran xpdf on an old pdf file that was created using TeX, and
>it says:
>  Error: This document uses Type 3 fonts - some text may not be correctly
displayed
>and gives the same kind of display as what you describe, so this may be
>your problem.  xpdf doesn't understand Type 3 fonts. (Type 3 fonts allow
>for bitmapped fonts.)
>

Type 3 fonts are horrors wherever they're used, even if they display
correctly you can't cut and paste the text from them.


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Re: latex->xpdf

2002-05-20 Thread Alan Shutko

Tom Cook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> When I use latex to convert a source file into a dvi, the dvi looks
> great.  Then when I use either dvips->gs or dvipdf to convert the dvi
> into a pdf, the pdf looks OK in acroread but unintelligable in xpdf.

What version of gs are you using?  Versions before GS 6.0 used type 3
fonts, which acroread renders poorly and xpdf doesn't render at all.

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Re: latex->xpdf

2002-05-20 Thread Steve Juranich

> Hi all,
> 
> I am fairly new to latex, so this could easily be something I am doing
> wierd, but...
> 
> When I use latex to convert a source file into a dvi, the dvi looks
> great.  Then when I use either dvips->gs or dvipdf to convert the dvi
> into a pdf, the pdf looks OK in acroread but unintelligable in xpdf.
> It just comes out as a series of lines of dots on the page.  The
> commands I am using are:
> 
> # latex source.tex
> # dvips source.dvi
> # gs -sOutputFile=source.pdf -sDEVICE=pdfwrite source.ps
> 
> or
> 
> # dvipdf source.dvi source.pdf
> 
> Any ideas on why xpdf is barfing?

I would probably use ps2pdf as a postscript to pdf converter.  However, if you 
have the LaTeX source, the preferred method would be to use pdflatex (it comes 
in the tetex-bin package).  You'll have to convert any .eps figures to .pdf 
(via epstopdf), and if you use "seperator characters" in your \label{} tags 
(e.g., \label{fig:xyplot}, pdflatex will die on the ':'.  The only seperator 
character it allows in the \label{} statements are '_'s.

Have fun.

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Re: latex->xpdf

2002-05-20 Thread Hubert Chan

> "Tom" == Tom Cook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Tom> When I use latex to convert a source file into a dvi, the dvi looks
Tom> great.  Then when I use either dvips->gs or dvipdf to convert the
Tom> dvi into a pdf, the pdf looks OK in acroread but unintelligable in
Tom> xpdf.

I don't use xpdf much but it might be because dvips by default uses
bitmap versions of the TeX fonts, rather than PostScript versions.  Try:

# cd /etc/texmf/dvips
[edit updmap and add "type1_default=true" somewhere]
# ./updmap

and see if that helps.  Of course, you'll need to regenerate the ps and
pdf files.

Hmm.  I just ran xpdf on an old pdf file that was created using TeX, and
it says:
  Error: This document uses Type 3 fonts - some text may not be correctly 
displayed
and gives the same kind of display as what you describe, so this may be
your problem.  xpdf doesn't understand Type 3 fonts. (Type 3 fonts allow
for bitmapped fonts.)

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Re: latex->xpdf

2002-05-20 Thread Alexander Schmehl


* Tom Cook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [020521 02:36]:

> When I use latex to convert a source file into a dvi, the dvi looks
> great.  Then when I use either dvips->gs or dvipdf to convert the dvi
> into a pdf, the pdf looks OK in acroread but unintelligable in xpdf.
I think, that pdf's look quite better, when you use "pdflatex" instead
of the ps2pdf or dvi2pdf tools I know.

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Re: Auto-ripping music CDs

2002-05-20 Thread Cory Snavely

Looking at vold might be a place to start. I'm not sure how it would handle
audio CDs, but I bet it would know about media changes, etc.

- Original Message -
From: "Andrew Pritchard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Debian User List" 
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 5:26 PM
Subject: Auto-ripping music CDs


> I've been using the rather excellent abcde cd ripping software for some
time in
> one of my servers at home. I've got it setup now so that it hardly ever
> requires any intervention from a user - apart from logging in and starting
the
> script off and that's a step I'd like to get round if I can.
>
> I was wondering how I could get the machine to:
>
> 1) Watch for a CD being put into the machine
> (some kind of automounting daemon I'm guessing)
> 2) If it's a music CD then run abcde, and eject the cd when it's done.
> (Perhaps running abcde, and when it can't grab music from the data cd then
go
> onto item 3)
> 3) Otherwise mount the cd according to /etc/fstab
>
> Has anyone done this, or can they suggest a possible solution. It's a
woody
> box, running a 2.4.18 kernel.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Andrew
>
> "I do not agree with what you say,
> but I will defend to the death your right to say it."
> Francois Marie Arouet Voltaire (1694-1778)
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latex->xpdf

2002-05-20 Thread Tom Cook

Hi all,

I am fairly new to latex, so this could easily be something I am doing
wierd, but...

When I use latex to convert a source file into a dvi, the dvi looks
great.  Then when I use either dvips->gs or dvipdf to convert the dvi
into a pdf, the pdf looks OK in acroread but unintelligable in xpdf.
It just comes out as a series of lines of dots on the page.  The
commands I am using are:

# latex source.tex
# dvips source.dvi
# gs -sOutputFile=source.pdf -sDEVICE=pdfwrite source.ps

or

# dvipdf source.dvi source.pdf

Any ideas on why xpdf is barfing?

Tom
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Re: Soundblaster Live! Card Not Working

2002-05-20 Thread Patrick Lane



I compile support for the sblive directly into the kernel and it works
grand.

--Patrick

On Mon, 2002-05-20 at 15:48, Benjamin Pharr wrote:
> No, the card doesn't show up when I do a "lspci". Does that mean I've
> got a bad card?
> 
> Thanks,
> Ben
> 
> 
> On Tue, May 14, 2002 at 09:15:08AM -0400, Michael P. Soulier wrote:
> > On 13/05/02 Benjamin Pharr did speaketh:
> > 
> > > I just bought a Soundblaster Live! soundcard, and I can't get it
to
> > > work. I'm running Debian GNU/Linux with the 2.4.19-pre8 kernel.
When I
> > 
> > When you do an "lspci" do you see the card?
> > 
> > Mike
> > 
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> > "...the word HACK is used as a verb to indicate a massive amount
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Re: Passing io/eth params to 8319too driver

2002-05-20 Thread W. Paul Mills


Not sure on the passing parameters, but I have four such cards.
DLink DFE-530TX+, 2 of them work fine with 2.4.x kernels, but
the two newer ones will not. And the factory supplied driver
source will not compile with 2.4.x kernels. Perhaps you are
caught with something like this. Actually there are two 8139
realtek drivers with the 2.4.x kernels, but neither have worked
for me. Seems to be, at least in part, a problem with the chip
ID's that the kernel finds. I have had no luck trying to patch
these drivers to get them to work.

Paul

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Re: Fonts and XFree86 SOLVED
Re: Lexmark Z32 on Woody [solved]
Re: Print font in mozilla
Re: Root SSH permitted by default (was: how does root run a
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Re: Is it perfectly to pass argv[] this way to function ?
Passing io/eth params to 8319too driver
Re: Unidentified subject!
Re: mounting audio CD
Re: Telnet weirdness
Re: OT: regexp spam filter
Re: Soundblaster Live! Card Not Working

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How difficult is it to package Binary-only software as .deb?

2002-05-20 Thread John Gay

I've got a GVX1 card wich is only supported, software-wise under Xfree864.2.0 
and for hardware accelleration, I have to use Accelerated-X. For the moment, 
I'm using XFree864.2.0 compiled from source for most of my work and the demo 
X-Server from XIG when I need hardware acceleration. As the XIG server is 
$129.00 to buy, I would like to be sure I can install it permenately before I 
pay for it. XIG only provide .rpm's, which I've converted using alien, but 
I've never trusted alien and I still had to build parts manually before it 
worked. I know I can use alien to extract the rpm. There are a few sources, 
mostly binaries and some libs. Here are the important things I know.

1) First, the system has to build a module for the current kernel which needs 
to be loaded before the server will work.

2)XIG provides it's own OpenGL code and libs. They recommend removing ALL 
traces of other OpenGL/MESA before installing theirs. I didn't do this, and 
it currently works, but it's better safe than sorry.

3) The X Server from XIG provides X. This package should take priority over 
even future versions of XFree86 unless the user specifically wants to replace 
it with XFree86.

So, the thing I want to do is:

Create a .deb that;

1) Will compile and install the kernel module, insuring that the module loads 
at boot time.

2) Conflict with and remove ALL other versions of OpenGL/MESA/XFree86 etc.

3) Install the X Server binaries, and

4) Put X on permanent hold until the user specifically requests to replace it.

I realise this goes against the very grain of Debian GNU/Linux, but some of 
us need to use Proprietory X Servers to get full use of our graphics cards. 
I've asked XIG to re-consider supporting Debian, but they see Debian as a 
small target not yet worth supporting. I was hoping that by 'rolling my own 
.deb' I could provide them with a valid template they could use for 
converting their other X Servers to Debian format.

How difficult would this be for someone with only limited knowledge of Linux 
and X and even less knowledge of .deb formats? I've read the developers mini 
howto, but it assumes you are starting with GPL'd code. Obviously none of 
this code is GPL'd, and most of it is binary-only. I'm esspecially concerned 
with getting the conflicts right so that this package can cleanly remove 
XFree86 and install the XIG server and ensuring that future dist-upgrades 
will not replace the XIG server with newer XFree86 .deb's.

Thank you for any tips, hints, pointer to FM's that I should read or any 
other useful mails.

Cheers,

John Gay


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Re: Soundblaster Live! Card Not Working

2002-05-20 Thread Benjamin Pharr

No, the card doesn't show up when I do a "lspci". Does that mean I've
got a bad card?

Thanks,
Ben


On Tue, May 14, 2002 at 09:15:08AM -0400, Michael P. Soulier wrote:
> On 13/05/02 Benjamin Pharr did speaketh:
> 
> > I just bought a Soundblaster Live! soundcard, and I can't get it to
> > work. I'm running Debian GNU/Linux with the 2.4.19-pre8 kernel. When I
> 
> When you do an "lspci" do you see the card?
> 
> Mike
> 
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Re: OT: regexp spam filter

On Mon, May 20, 2002 at 02:19:28PM -0700, Alan Su wrote:
> the following regexp *should work:
> 
>  217\.78\.(6(4|5|6|7|8|9)|7(0|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9))\.[0-9]+
> 
> it's not really obscure, but it's not really all that clever either.
> =)  i'm sure there are more "compact" solutions out there!

Slightly more compact would be to use character classes:

  217\.78\.(6[4-9]|7[0-9])\.[0-9]+

Both this and the above depend on what tool you're using. These are Perl
regexps or extended regexps (not the same thing, but compatible in this
case); if you're in something that uses basic regexps instead (e.g.
grep, by default), then you want:

  217\.78\.\(6[4-9]\|7[0-9]\)\.[0-9]\+

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Re: Telnet weirdness

Carl Weidling, 2002-May-20 12:55 -0700:

> but if I try to telnet, I get:
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ telnet ragwind
>  Trying 192.168.0.2...
>  Connected to ragwind.loc.net.
>  Escape character is '^]'.
> 
> and that's it, it hangs until I quit out.  ssh also hangs.
> (However, ftp seems to work.  At least I was able to do an 'ls' of a
> directory from ftp.)

I appears the telnet server on ragwind is there, but the hang may be
ragwind trying to do a name resolution on bluemouth.  Make sure you
have each system listed in /etc/hosts properly and that you are
referring to 'files' first for hosts in /etc/nsswitch.conf.

jc

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Re: mounting audio CD

Kristian Rink, 2002-May-20 21:52 +0200:
> On Mon, May 20, 2002 at 12:53:58PM -0700, Jeff wrote:
> > Paul Fischer, 2002-May-20 21:23 +0200:
> > 
> > You can't mount an audio cd.  AFAIK it doesn't have a typical
> > data-style filesystem.  You can only read from it using an application
> > designed for it, such as a cd-player or a music ripping program.
> 
> Using cdfs (http://www.elis.rug.ac.be/~ronsse/cdfs), you actually even
> can mount audio-cds / video cds, for example to simply copy out the
> audio tracks of an audio cd directly as wav files. It's not part of the
> regular kernel distribution nor of the standard Debian package, anyhow,
> but an interesting thing to know and a neat toy to have, also for
> recovering 'lost' data sessions on cd. *g*
> 
> Cheers,
> Kris

Ah, thanks.  That's good to know.   :-)

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Re: Unidentified subject!

2002-05-20 Thread Tinus Kotze

Hi

Debian and all the other distributions like RedHat and SuSe is os's 
with consoles(if you can put it like that). It is only the underlying 
system on which you work. The graphical interface you are refering to 
is a program like the old win 3x. For a beginner I would advise that 
you selected X-Windows system in your installation with Gnome or KDE as 
window managers. X-Windows only give you the underlying system for 
graphical interface like the screen settings and mouse interfaces. The 
window managers will take over from there and take care of how your 
interface works and looks. If it is how windows is dragged or what 
happens when you press a key combination. Once again, for a x windoze 
user I would advise using KDE which is very much like the windoze 
interface. If you boot your computer and find yourself with a text 
screen looking like this for example

Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 jmak.majuba.sun.ac.za tty1

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$

type in 
startx
If you did select X-Windows system with a window manager you will find 
yourself(hopefully) with a graphical screen with a toolbar, lots of 
buttons on it and a desktop with icons. Playing around should make you 
quite comfortable with this interface quite easily if you knew your 
windoze very well and are a easy learner.

Greetings
Tinus

On Mon 20 May 02 20:53, olugboji akinlolu wrote:
> I have finish installeing the debian version of linux.
> Good the prompt as the quickstart.pdf manual said. so
> what is next. Apart from deslect what other commands
> are there.?
> Is Debian linux a graphic base interface like windows
> desktop or even redhat (that is one linux I never got
> to be able to install).
> By the way I am new to the liunux world it has always
> being windows for me.
>
> __
> Do You Yahoo!?
> LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience
> http://launch.yahoo.com

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Passing io/eth params to 8319too driver

2002-05-20 Thread Jonathan Matthews

I've got a known-good (well, known-crap-but-known-to-work) Realtek
8139 based NIC that is absolutely fine under kernel 2.2, with the
rtl8139 driver, but hangs the box solid if 8139too is used, under 2.2
/or/ 2.4. 

Not a problem under 2.2, as I've just been using rtl8139, but
that driver doesn't seem to be available for 2.4 in the vanilla
kernel.org 2.4.18.

I'm guessing that, under 2.4

a) I have to use 8139too

Since the hang occurs at boot immediately after
"Configuring network interfaces: " with no errors reported:

b) it's the driver's probing of other io addresses that's causing
the hang.

Note that (b) is, of course, very probably, wrong.

So, to cut to the chase: how do I pass the io and irq values to the
driver?

Please note that I'm aware of having (after an update-modules) the two
lines
alias eth0 8139too
options 8139too io=0xe00 irq=12
in /etc/modules.conf

and also the line

append="ether=12,0xe00,eth0"
in /etc/lilo.conf.

Neither one appears to do much good.

Any 8139too-under-2.4 users out there able to lend a hand?

cheers!
jc

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Re: Is it perfectly to pass argv[] this way to function ?

2002-05-20 Thread Elizabeth Barham

Craig Dickson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> He didn't write "**argv != NULL", he wrote "*argv != NULL" -- in other
> words, not "last argument is a null string", but "the last pointer in
> the argv array is a NULL". Which is a common behavior (both gcc 2.95 and
> Microsoft Visual C++ do it, at least), though as I wrote previously, I'm
> not sure it's in the C89 standard. I agree with you that using argc to
> control the loop is preferable, in any case.
> 
> Craig

Ok sorry Greg. I liked your method of argc-- to control the loop, btw.

Elizabeth


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Re: Root SSH permitted by default (was: how does root run a graphical prog)

2002-05-20 Thread Daniel D Jones

On Mon, 2002-05-20 at 15:37, Jamin W.Collins wrote:
> On Mon, 20 May 2002 20:26:11 +0100
> "Colin Watson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Like the document says, regularly su'ing to root from an account makes
> > compromising that account essentially equivalent to compromising root
> > anyway. I don't see a problem with the default configuration, and nor do
> > OpenSSH upstream.
> 
> Good security is layered. Because a normal account could be compromised
> and su'ing to root accomplished doesn't mean that it should be made easier
> for a cracker by allowing direct root logins.  Additionally, the default
> Debian ssh config allows for password authentication.  This is definitely
> a bad idea.
> 
> The defaults for most other settings show a desire to make the
> installation more secure.  It really doesn't make sense (at least not to
> me) to tighten up other defaults but just leave the key in the lock on
> these two.

While I can see both sides of this argument, it seems to me that anyone
who is knowledgeable enough to understand and accept the dangers of
allowing root to ssh is knowledgeable enough to change the default. 
However, a great many people don't know enough to understand the dangers
and probably wouldn't know how to go about changing the default if they
don't need that capability.  I gotta agree with you here; always err on
the side of security.


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Re: Print font in mozilla

2002-05-20 Thread Mike Fontenot


Anyone know where the "system" css file(s) for mozilla are?

E.g., is there a "system" css file somewhere that a
userContent.css file in ~/.mozilla/default/Chrome will
override?

If I can find such a file, seems like it would show me
what all the possible things I can do in my userContent.css
file are.

If not, is there some documentation somewhere that shows
all the possibilities for a userContent.css file?

Mike Fontenot
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Re: Lexmark Z32 on Woody [solved]

2002-05-20 Thread Steffen Evers

On Mon, May 20, 2002 at 18:52, Steffen Evers wrote:
> I am trying to get a Lexmark Z32 printer working.
>
> Has anyone succeed on this printer and how?
>
> I have spent a day on this and it still does not work ...

Found this stuff:
http://www.linuxprinting.org/download/printing/lexmark-foomatic-kit.tar.gz
but too late for me. However, I suggest YOU try it first.

I was able to get this stupid binary only driver from lexmark
working:

It contains a Readme and an rpm.
The packager must have been smoking pot while working, as the package is
stupidly broken.

1. Missing executable permissons for several files
2. File /usr/local/lexmark/z32/z32.sh is in really bad shape:
a) in DOS format so the shell cannot handle it -> convert to unix format
b) gs commands should not be interactive -> batch mode: '-dBATCH'
missing
c) enscript used but no dependency set in rpm package
d) 'lxaegsparm' command does not exist; maybe the comment above it is
right and the command is spelled 'lxgps' instead!
3. The /etc/printcap file was not modified in the correct way.

I tried to install the rpm with alien, but a command could not be
executed because of missing executable permissions.

So easiest way to do the entire stuff is:

1. Get the tar ball from here:
ftp://ftp.lexmark-europe.com/drivers/printer/international_english/lexmarkz32-1.0-4.eng_uk.tgz

2. Untar it with: 'tar xfz lexmarkz32-1.0-4.eng_uk.tgz'

3. Extract the contents with:
mkdir lextmp
cd lextmp
rpm2cpio ../lexmarkz32-1.0-4.i386.rpm | cpio -iumd
cd ..

3a. Become root if you are not already.
su -

4. Put the files in the correct place:
cp -a lextmp/usr/local/lexmark /usr/local/lexmark
cp -a lextmp/usr/local/lib/ /usr/local/lib/lexmark
cp -a lextmp/usr/local/bin/* /usr/local/bin/
cp -a lextmp/var/spool/lexmark /var/spool/lexmark

4a. Make sure '/usr/local/lib' is in your '/etc/ld.so.conf'.
If not, put it in and run 'ldconfig'

5. Add the following to your printcap
Lexmark Z32 entries START
lp|lexmarkz32:\
:lp=/dev/lp0:\
:if=/usr/local/lexmark/z32/z32.sh:\
:sd=/var/spool/lpd/lexmarkz32:\
:lf=/var/spool/lpd/lexmarkz32/log:\
:af=/var/spool/lpd/lexmarkz32/acct:\
:mx#0:\
:sh:

z32-outfiles:\
:sd=/var/spool/lpd/z32-outfiles:\
:mx#0:\
:sh:\
:lp=/dev/lp0:

Lexmark Z32 entries END $

6. If you do NOT want that printer as the default printer remove the
lp| from the first line, so it is only:
lexmarkz32:\

6a. Create the spooler directories:
mkdir /var/spool/lpd/z32-outfiles
mkdir /var/spool/lpd/lexmarkz32
chown lp.lp /var/spool/lpd/z32-outfiles /var/spool/lpd/lexmarkz32
chmod ug+rwx /var/spool/lpd/z32-outfiles /var/spool/lpd/lexmarkz32

7. Replace /usr/local/lexmark/z32/z32.sh script with my corrected version
(attached).

8. Set executable permissions for all files in /usr/local/lexmark/z32:
chmod a+x /usr/local/lexmark/z32/*
This might introduce security risks! So, maybe someone is in the
mood to figure out which permissions are really needed for the
different users. I am not.

9. run 'lexmarkz32 -i' if you like and set different parameters by using
'lxsetconf'. However, this step should not be necessary.

10. Now at least my printer works!

I hope I have not forgotten anything. If someone finds a better way to
get this printer working under Linux: PLEASE, let me know.

Bye, Steffen

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Re: Fonts and XFree86 SOLVED

2002-05-20 Thread Daniel D Jones

On Mon, 2002-05-20 at 16:13, Nicos Gollan wrote:
> On Monday 20 May 2002 19:31, Daniel D Jones wrote:
> 
> > > > It appears that the problem isn't with XFree86 but perhaps with KDE?
> > >
> > > Does xfontsel display the truetype fonts? What does xlsfonts say? (Please
> > > for the love of God and my mailbox, don't attach the xlsfonts output ;-)
> > > )
> >
> > Why not?  xlsfonts only spits out 18,700+ lines! And xfontsel shows over
> > 150 fonts under the "family" tab.
> 
> If the truetype fonts are listed there it seems like a KDE problem. 
> Hey, am I good at stating the obvious or what? ;-)
> 
> Perhaps look if there's something about that problem at the KDE webthingy...

I have been fighting this thing for three days.

Solved it by adding 

dir "/path/to/truetype/fonts"

in /etc/X11/XftConfig




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Re: font troubles in sid

2002-05-20 Thread Marc Wilson

Well, the "fonts-as-boxes" problem is well documented in the X FAQ, but
basically it boils down to GTK fonts incompletely specifying the font they
want, and then not being able to deal properly with what the X server gives
them in answer to their request.

Notice that every problem application described here is a GTK one. :)

A better answer is to change your GTK theme to use some other font, or more
completely specify the one you DO want.

As for "accelerated fonts"... what in the world are those?

On Mon, May 20, 2002 at 11:11:14PM +0200, shamad wrote:
> James,
> I had fonts which actually were looking like bar codes... I got the
> following advice and it worked:
> Add in the section Device of the /etc/X11/XF86Config file, the following:
> Option
> "NoAccel" It seems to be related to the xserver not properly managing the
> accelerated fonts
> You may want to give it a try
> 
> Serge
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "James Hughes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 6:07 PM
> Subject: font troubles in sid
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> A while ago, after doing an upgrade, I noticed that fonts in galeon
> where displaying as rectangles. I managed to fix this through trial and
> error in the galeon preferences, and life went on, though I did notice that
> the same rectangles were being used to display the xmms playlist. I decided
> to
> ignore this as it wasn't seriously affecting my daily work.
> 
> However, I just fired up the gimp, and noticed the same font problem with
> all the menus and dialog boxes, rendering the gimp pretty much unusable.
> Googling around, I found the "TrueType Fonts in Debian mini-HOWTO" and
> followed
> the instructions there to set my XF86Config to use xfs. (adding "unix/:7100"
> to
> the FontPath and restarting xfs). Still no menus in gimp.
> 
> I'm running sid, and a modified XF86_Mach64 server that I've been lugging
> around with me due to a bug in the default server that draws a line down the
> middle of screen on my Dell Inspiron 3800 laptop, (if any of that is
> relevant,
> I don't know).
> 
> Any help or pointers to more docs would be greatly appreciated,
> 
> James
> 
> 
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Auto-ripping music CDs

2002-05-20 Thread Andrew Pritchard

I've been using the rather excellent abcde cd ripping software for some time in 
one of my servers at home. I've got it setup now so that it hardly ever 
requires any intervention from a user - apart from logging in and starting the 
script off and that's a step I'd like to get round if I can.

I was wondering how I could get the machine to:

1) Watch for a CD being put into the machine
(some kind of automounting daemon I'm guessing)
2) If it's a music CD then run abcde, and eject the cd when it's done.
(Perhaps running abcde, and when it can't grab music from the data cd then go 
onto item 3)
3) Otherwise mount the cd according to /etc/fstab

Has anyone done this, or can they suggest a possible solution. It's a woody 
box, running a 2.4.18 kernel.

Thanks in advance,

Andrew

"I do not agree with what you say,
but I will defend to the death your right to say it." 
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Re: OT: regexp spam filter

2002-05-20 Thread Alan Su

the following regexp *should work:

 217\.78\.(6(4|5|6|7|8|9)|7(0|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9))\.[0-9]+

it's not really obscure, but it's not really all that clever either.
=)  i'm sure there are more "compact" solutions out there!

-alan

Gary Turner wrote (Mon, 20 May 2002 16:11:00 -0500 ):
|>I am not practiced in the use of regexp's, and need some help.  I want
|>to block a Nigerian domain (I wonder why?) whose IP block is 217.78.64.0
|>- 217.78.79.255.  For unknown reasons (ignorance?), my various
|>incantations and curses have failed the test.
|>
|>If the cognoscenti among you would post examples of regexps that will
|>work, I will be thankful.  And if yours is a more obscure or esoteric
|>example, please explain the manipulation so that I can maybe figure out
|>the next magic spell without leaning on the list.
|>
|>tnx,
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Re: font troubles in sid

2002-05-20 Thread shamad

James,
I had fonts which actually were looking like bar codes... I got the
following advice and it worked:
Add in the section Device of the /etc/X11/XF86Config file, the following:
Option
"NoAccel" It seems to be related to the xserver not properly managing the
accelerated fonts
You may want to give it a try

Serge

- Original Message -
From: "James Hughes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 6:07 PM
Subject: font troubles in sid


Hi,

A while ago, after doing an upgrade, I noticed that fonts in galeon
where displaying as rectangles. I managed to fix this through trial and
error in the galeon preferences, and life went on, though I did notice that
the same rectangles were being used to display the xmms playlist. I decided
to
ignore this as it wasn't seriously affecting my daily work.

However, I just fired up the gimp, and noticed the same font problem with
all the menus and dialog boxes, rendering the gimp pretty much unusable.
Googling around, I found the "TrueType Fonts in Debian mini-HOWTO" and
followed
the instructions there to set my XF86Config to use xfs. (adding "unix/:7100"
to
the FontPath and restarting xfs). Still no menus in gimp.

I'm running sid, and a modified XF86_Mach64 server that I've been lugging
around with me due to a bug in the default server that draws a line down the
middle of screen on my Dell Inspiron 3800 laptop, (if any of that is
relevant,
I don't know).

Any help or pointers to more docs would be greatly appreciated,

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OT: regexp spam filter

2002-05-20 Thread Gary Turner

I am not practiced in the use of regexp's, and need some help.  I want
to block a Nigerian domain (I wonder why?) whose IP block is 217.78.64.0
- 217.78.79.255.  For unknown reasons (ignorance?), my various
incantations and curses have failed the test.

If the cognoscenti among you would post examples of regexps that will
work, I will be thankful.  And if yours is a more obscure or esoteric
example, please explain the manipulation so that I can maybe figure out
the next magic spell without leaning on the list.

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Re: font troubles in sid

2002-05-20 Thread Hubert Chan

> "James" == James Hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

James> Hi, A while ago, after doing an upgrade, I noticed that fonts in
James> galeon where displaying as rectangles. ...

This is probably because gtk is trying to use the Unicode codepage.  Try
changing it to another codepage, like iso8859-1.  If you use GNOME, you
can do that in the GNOME control center, under themes.  If you aren't
using GNOME, you will have to edit/create .gtkrc.

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Re: how does root run a graphical prog

2002-05-20 Thread Corrin Lakeland

On Tue, 21 May 2002 08:24, Nicos Gollan wrote:
> On Monday 20 May 2002 19:37, Dave Sherohman wrote:
> > On Mon, May 20, 2002 at 06:49:19PM +0200, Nicos Gollan wrote:
> > > You could try using ssh with X forwarding for that. Just "ssh
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]" should do the trick. It's not the best way, but it
> > > works.
> >
> > ...unless you're on a system which is configured to disallow remote
> > root logins via ssh.  (Such as, say, the default Debian
> > configuration.)
>
> Uuuh... really? I have installed ssh with default options and it allows
> root access just fine.

Both of you are correct.

Root access from localhost is allowed, remote root access is disallowed (by 
default).


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nntpcache 3.0.1

2002-05-20 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson

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Re: Is it perfectly to pass argv[] this way to function ?

2002-05-20 Thread Craig Dickson

Elizabeth Barham wrote:

> The only thing that is troubling is the (**argv != NULL) which assumes
> that the last string is a NULL string (the first character is NULL),
> as opposed to using the count (argc), which may not be the case (it's
> not here).

He didn't write "**argv != NULL", he wrote "*argv != NULL" -- in other
words, not "last argument is a null string", but "the last pointer in
the argv array is a NULL". Which is a common behavior (both gcc 2.95 and
Microsoft Visual C++ do it, at least), though as I wrote previously, I'm
not sure it's in the C89 standard. I agree with you that using argc to
control the loop is preferable, in any case.

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Re: Is it perfectly to pass argv[] this way to function ?

2002-05-20 Thread Alan Shutko

Craig Dickson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I think the convention that argv[argc] == NULL is common enough that
> this should be acceptable in practice, but I'm not sure it's actually in
> the C89 standard,

FWIW, it is.  Section 5.1.2.2.1.

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Re: how does root run a graphical prog

2002-05-20 Thread Nicos Gollan

On Monday 20 May 2002 19:37, Dave Sherohman wrote:
> On Mon, May 20, 2002 at 06:49:19PM +0200, Nicos Gollan wrote:
> > You could try using ssh with X forwarding for that. Just "ssh
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]" should do the trick. It's not the best way, but it works.
>
> ...unless you're on a system which is configured to disallow remote
> root logins via ssh.  (Such as, say, the default Debian
> configuration.)

Uuuh... really? I have installed ssh with default options and it allows root 
access just fine.


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Re: how does root run a graphical prog

2002-05-20 Thread Kristian Rink

On Mon, May 20, 2002 at 12:36:06PM -0500, Dave Sherohman wrote:
> On Mon, May 20, 2002 at 06:39:22PM +0200, Kristian Rink wrote:
> 
> If you MUST use xhost, use 'xhost + localhost'.  But using xauth or
> XAUTHORITY is the Right Way To Do It.
>

Hm... by now I indeed pretty much was using xhost to get tasks like
this done, presuming that, being root, I rarely use x-based software..
:) So, thanks for the hint. 

Cheers,
Kris

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Re: Fonts and XFree86

2002-05-20 Thread Nicos Gollan

On Monday 20 May 2002 19:31, Daniel D Jones wrote:

> > > It appears that the problem isn't with XFree86 but perhaps with KDE?
> >
> > Does xfontsel display the truetype fonts? What does xlsfonts say? (Please
> > for the love of God and my mailbox, don't attach the xlsfonts output ;-)
> > )
>
> Why not?  xlsfonts only spits out 18,700+ lines! And xfontsel shows over
> 150 fonts under the "family" tab.

If the truetype fonts are listed there it seems like a KDE problem. 
Hey, am I good at stating the obvious or what? ;-)

Perhaps look if there's something about that problem at the KDE webthingy...

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Re: how does root run a graphical prog

2002-05-20 Thread Robin Putters

On Mon, 2002-05-20 at 18:45, Willy S wrote:
> hi,
> 
> How come root can not run a graphical program under other user
> session. Let say, I do 'su' and I try to launch gkrellm. Xterm will
> produce this message:
> 
> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
> Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server
> 
> Everything fine if I run a console program under root. This problem
> only occurs if I run a program as a root under other people session.
> 

Use sudo (apt-get install sudo), it will take care of this for you...


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Re: mounting audio CD

2002-05-20 Thread Kristian Rink

On Mon, May 20, 2002 at 12:53:58PM -0700, Jeff wrote:
> Paul Fischer, 2002-May-20 21:23 +0200:
> 
> You can't mount an audio cd.  AFAIK it doesn't have a typical
> data-style filesystem.  You can only read from it using an application
> designed for it, such as a cd-player or a music ripping program.

Using cdfs (http://www.elis.rug.ac.be/~ronsse/cdfs), you actually even
can mount audio-cds / video cds, for example to simply copy out the
audio tracks of an audio cd directly as wav files. It's not part of the
regular kernel distribution nor of the standard Debian package, anyhow,
but an interesting thing to know and a neat toy to have, also for
recovering 'lost' data sessions on cd. *g*

Cheers,
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Re: Is it perfectly to pass argv[] this way to function ?

2002-05-20 Thread Elizabeth Barham

Hi Deepak,

"Deepak Kotian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hi,
> 
> Please check the code segment.
> /*code start /
> #include 
> int func1(char **a_argv){
>  while (*a_argv!=3DNULL)
>  printf("\n%s", *a_argv++);
>  return(0);
> }
> 
> int main(int argc, char *argv[]){
>  func1(&argv[0]);
> }
> /*code end /
> 
> This func1 function prints all the arguments with no problem, because =
> main() is probably always=20
> on stack, so it works probably.
> Do anyone see any problem, if one passes argv[] this way ? Will there be =
> portability issues, like=20
> on other UNIX flavors,etc.

Why not just do:

#include 

int func1(char **argv) {
  while(**argv != NULL) {
printf("%s\n", *(argv++));
  }
}

int main(int argc, char **argv) {
  func1(argv);
}

You are passing the pointer-pointer by value, but that's fine. The
only thing that is troubling is the (**argv != NULL) which assumes
that the last string is a NULL string (the first character is NULL),
as opposed to using the count (argc), which may not be the case (it's
not here). But this is certainly fine and standard C. Here's how I
would do it:

#include 

int func1(int argc, char **argv) {
  int i;
  for(i = 1; i < argc; i++) {
printf("%s\n", *(argv + i));
  }
}

int main(int argc, char **argv) {
  func1(argc, argv);
}


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Telnet weirdness

2002-05-20 Thread Carl Weidling

Hi,

I have two computers, one is running a slack 8.0 distro, the other I
am trying to migrate from slack to debian woody (Actually, Debian Woody
unofficial, purchased from Edmunds Enterprises).  They are connected
by a single ethernet cable with a crossover network with static IP
addresses in /etc/hostname.

When both are running slackware, I can telnet between them by name
or ssh between them by name.

When one of them (named ragwind)  is running debian, I can ping my other
computer (named bluemouth, which is always running the slack distro)
by name.  i.e. "ping -c 1 bluemouth".  But if I try 'telnet bluemouth',
telnet just hangs.  On the other hand, 'telnet 192.168.0.1' works, where
192.168.0.1 is bluemouth's IP address.  ssh does work by name, (i.e
ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED]  OK, so far, it's something I can live with, though
I'd really like to know why telnet bluemouth doesn't work (and better,
be able to fix it so it does.)

Going the other way is different.  I can ping from bluemouth to my
debian machine (by name, 'ping ragwind') and I can mount a filesystem
from the debian machine on bluemouth ('mount -t nfs ragwind:...'),
but if I try to telnet, I get:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ telnet ragwind
 Trying 192.168.0.2...
 Connected to ragwind.loc.net.
 Escape character is '^]'.

and that's it, it hangs until I quit out.  ssh also hangs.
(However, ftp seems to work.  At least I was able to do an 'ls' of a
directory from ftp.)

On the other hand, when I connect to my ISP with pppd, I can telnet in
to it with just plain 'telnet rahul.net' with no problem.

So mostly, I'd like to know why I cannot telnet in to the debian machine,
though I'd also like to know why I can only telnet to the slackware
using its naked IP address.  Except for putting the IP addresses
in to /etc/hosts, I haven't done any special configuration.  In order
to get the ethernet up and running I do the following (so far I do
this by hand, after the system is fully booted up)

insmod dmfe  
ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.2
route add default eth0

That seems to be enough for slackware.

Thanks for any help
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Re: mounting audio CD

Paul Fischer, 2002-May-20 21:23 +0200:
> Hello,
> I am trying to mount an audio CD, but the problem
> is that it just won't mount. 
> I tried to mount it with an audio CD in the drive. 
> And it gave me this error: 
> $ mount /dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom -t iso9660
> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdc, 
> or too many mounted file systems.
> 
> on the other hand my Debian-CD mounts OK on this drive.
> I'm quite confused..
> 
> btw I have 2 different CD-drives installed,
> /dev/cdrom is mounted on /cdrom
> and mounts OK with audio CD, but not /dev/hdc  
> thanks in advance
> // Paul

You can't mount an audio cd.  AFAIK it doesn't have a typical
data-style filesystem.  You can only read from it using an application
designed for it, such as a cd-player or a music ripping program.

jc

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Re: mounting audio CD

2002-05-20 Thread Thomas Weinbrenner

"Paul Fischer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I am trying to mount an audio CD, 

Why? 
Just put the audio CD in the drive and start a cd player.

You only need to mount a cd if you want to access its content as files.

[...]

> $ mount /dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom -t iso9660
> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdc, 
> or too many mounted file systems.

It's the wrong fs type. Audio CDs don't have a filesystem like data
cds. (AFAIK it is possible to mount them using cdfs, then you can
access the music tracks like *.wav-files)

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Re: Is it perfectly to pass argv[] this way to function ?

2002-05-20 Thread Craig Dickson

Deepak Kotian wrote:

> Please check the code segment.
> /*code start /
> #include 
> int func1(char **a_argv){
>  while (*a_argv!=NULL)
>  printf("\n%s", *a_argv++);
>  return(0);
> }
> 
> int main(int argc, char *argv[]){
>  func1(&argv[0]);
> }
> /*code end /
> 
> This func1 function prints all the arguments with no problem, because
> main() is probably always on stack, so it works probably.
> Do anyone see any problem, if one passes argv[] this way ? Will there
> be portability issues, like on other UNIX flavors,etc.

I think the convention that argv[argc] == NULL is common enough that
this should be acceptable in practice, but I'm not sure it's actually in
the C89 standard, so it might not be justifiable in terms of good
engineering practices. It might be better to pass argc to func1 as well,
and use that to control the loop:

   void func1(int argc, char** argv) {
  while (--argc) {
 printf("\n%s, *argv++);
   }

   int main(int argc, char** argv) {
  func1(argc, argv);
  return 0;
   }

Note in this example that I take advantage of the fact that argv == &argv[0]
to simplify your invocation of func1.

Also, I have not actually compiled, much less tested, the above code, but
offhand, I believe it should be functionally equivalent to yours.

Craig

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Re: Root SSH permitted by default (was: how does root run a graphical prog)

2002-05-20 Thread Jamin W . Collins

On Mon, 20 May 2002 20:26:11 +0100
"Colin Watson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Like the document says, regularly su'ing to root from an account makes
> compromising that account essentially equivalent to compromising root
> anyway. I don't see a problem with the default configuration, and nor do
> OpenSSH upstream.

Good security is layered. Because a normal account could be compromised
and su'ing to root accomplished doesn't mean that it should be made easier
for a cracker by allowing direct root logins.  Additionally, the default
Debian ssh config allows for password authentication.  This is definitely
a bad idea.

The defaults for most other settings show a desire to make the
installation more secure.  It really doesn't make sense (at least not to
me) to tighten up other defaults but just leave the key in the lock on
these two.

> I can safely say that this is a pointless discussion; I know the
> maintainer, and he's not going to change his mind. If you disagree,
> you're free to change the configuration for yourself.

I have on all of my systems, as soon as they were installed.  However, it
would be nice to know the reasoning behind this default configuration.

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Re: Calendar/scheduling softwae fro debain?

2002-05-20 Thread Steve Juranich

> Actually, I'm thninking that's serious overkill for what I want. Isn't it
> the grand swiss army knife, scheduler, email client, tea maker :-)
> 
> I'm looking for a simply little schedule keeper.

Well, if you're looking to go "old-school", there's always 'ical'.

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Re: Root SSH permitted by default (was: how does root run a graphical prog)

On Mon, May 20, 2002 at 01:37:49PM -0500, Jamin W. Collins wrote:
> On Mon, 20 May 2002 19:01:50 +0100
> "Colin Watson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Not in woody and sid, at least. See the paragraphs in
> > /usr/share/doc/ssh/README.Debian headed "PermitRootLogin set to yes".
> 
> Man, talk about a bad stance to take.  Personally, I'd say this is a bug
> in the default configuration.  However, it appears that the package
> maintainer does not agree:

*sigh*

Like the document says, regularly su'ing to root from an account makes
compromising that account essentially equivalent to compromising root
anyway. I don't see a problem with the default configuration, and nor do
OpenSSH upstream.

> DO NOT FILE BUG REPORTS SAYING YOU THINK THIS DEFAULT IS INCORRECT!
> 
> SSH should not be installed to permit root logins or password auth by
> default. 

I can safely say that this is a pointless discussion; I know the
maintainer, and he's not going to change his mind. If you disagree,
you're free to change the configuration for yourself.

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mounting audio CD

2002-05-20 Thread Paul Fischer

Hello,
I am trying to mount an audio CD, but the problem
is that it just won't mount. 
I tried to mount it with an audio CD in the drive. 
And it gave me this error: 
$ mount /dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom -t iso9660
mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdc, 
or too many mounted file systems.

on the other hand my Debian-CD mounts OK on this drive.
I'm quite confused..

btw I have 2 different CD-drives installed,
/dev/cdrom is mounted on /cdrom
and mounts OK with audio CD, but not /dev/hdc  
thanks in advance
// Paul


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Re: Can a Package be installed that only effects 1 user account?

On Mon, May 20, 2002 at 11:27:22AM -0700, John Richardson wrote:
> Can a Package be installed that only effects 1 user account?

Just unpack it (using 'dpkg -x' if you like) in that user's home
directory, and adjust that user's $PATH to use it.

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okidata OL410e: yea or nay?

2002-05-20 Thread Bob Bernstein

Has anyone been successful using this printer with Linux (or any other) cups? 
I have the recommended ljet4 ppd selected, and always seem on the verge of 
success just before the printer pops up its "PAG BUF OVERFLOW" message. Making 
the suggested adjustments to the printer's internal settings (REC BUFF=8K, 
FONT PROT=OFF) appears to change absolutely nothing.

Any clues here folks?

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Re: how does root run a graphical prog

2002-05-20 Thread Frank Zimmermann

On Mon, May 20, 2002 at 11:29:14AM -0700, Vineet Kumar wrote:
> * Dave Sherohman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [020520 10:49]:
> > On Mon, May 20, 2002 at 06:39:22PM +0200, Kristian Rink wrote:
> > 
> 
> Thankfully, debian's X config has by default an option (and I won't tell
> you which if you don't know, because you shouldn't remove it) that
> disables the X server from listening for and accepting incoming tcp
> connections, so 'xhost +' won't hurt you as much as it should.
> 
> Use su and read the originating user's ~/.Xauthority, or use ssh's X
> forwarding.
> 

On my Debian system root can automatically run X-Apps (after an su). I was
wondering why but haven't figurerd it out yet. It's not what I was used to
before.

Frank

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Re: Accounting/Payroll software

2002-05-20 Thread Ron Johnson

On Mon, 2002-05-20 at 12:29, No Realm wrote:
> 
> Does anyone know of a GNU replacememt for RealWorld 
> accounting software (RealWorld is DOS based and is produced 
> by Great Plains, which is owned by MS)?

Methinks a drop-in replacement would be impossible.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=linux+accounting+software
http://www.gnucash.org/en/roadmap.phtml
http://www.cbbrowne.com/info/financefreesoft.html

Me, I think that until gnucash comes up with a Small Business
Edition, I'd go to a VAR for accounting s/w, and stipulate 
that I get the complete source code plus makefiles.

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Unidentified subject!

2002-05-20 Thread olugboji akinlolu

I have finish installeing the debian version of linux.
Good the prompt as the quickstart.pdf manual said. so
what is next. Apart from deslect what other commands
are there.?
Is Debian linux a graphic base interface like windows
desktop or even redhat (that is one linux I never got
to be able to install).
By the way I am new to the liunux world it has always
being windows for me.

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Dunya Gazetesi ve Dunya Ankara CD-Rom

2002-05-20 Thread Dunya Gazetesi Ankara






Dünya 
Gazetesi'ne Hoþ Geldiniz ..
 
Sizin 
de sektörünüzde yeriniz olsun ister misiniz ?
 
Nasýl 
mý ?
 
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Dünya Gazetesine 
abone olun , müþteri pörtföyümüze katýlýn , Cd lerimizde yer alýn 
,
 
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Yabancý Yayýnlara 
abone olun , yabancý dergi ve gazeteler kapýnýza  kadar gelsin ,
 
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.
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,
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,
 
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Ýhracat yapan firmalarýn , telefon , fax , yetkili , adres , email ve web 
sayfalarý ,
çok geniþ ürün 
arama motoru , hangi firma ne ihraç ediyor , tek tuþla ulaþabileceksiniz 
,,
 
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,
 
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firmalara ve kamu kuruluþlarýna ve internet üzerindeki web sayfalarýnda 

bulunan emaillere 
bu cd 'den ulaþabileceksiniz , Sizin için seçtiðiniz firmalara otomatik 
olarak
limitsiz bir 
þekilde email atmanýzý saðlayacak türkçe email gönderme programýnýda bu cd'nin 
içinde
bulabileceksiniz 
.
 
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Root SSH permitted by default (was: how does root run a graphical prog)

2002-05-20 Thread Jamin W . Collins

On Mon, 20 May 2002 19:01:50 +0100
"Colin Watson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Mon, May 20, 2002 at 12:37:28PM -0500, Dave Sherohman wrote:
> > ...unless you're on a system which is configured to disallow remote
> > root logins via ssh.  (Such as, say, the default Debian
> > configuration.)
> 
> Not in woody and sid, at least. See the paragraphs in
> /usr/share/doc/ssh/README.Debian headed "PermitRootLogin set to yes".

Man, talk about a bad stance to take.  Personally, I'd say this is a bug
in the default configuration.  However, it appears that the package
maintainer does not agree:

DO NOT FILE BUG REPORTS SAYING YOU THINK THIS DEFAULT IS INCORRECT!

SSH should not be installed to permit root logins or password auth by
default. 

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Re: Network problem/question.

2002-05-20 Thread tony mollica

Ron Johnson wrote:

> So the rest of the company needs to see win2000server?

Yes.  I was issued this box, instructed to plug it in and
then don't touch it.  This should get interesting as a 
windows setup administered from the Company side.  It has
one shared directory with some database files that need
to be accessed and updated from the LAN side, and accessed
for viewing from the WAN side.

tony.


> 
> On Mon, 2002-05-20 at 10:58, tony mollica wrote:
> > The entire operation is behind a company firewall but
> > the local management doesn't want other company locations
> > browsing our LAN.  (Updated drawing below).  I have a few
> > more days to make this work, at which time the whole location
> > will be changed to the assigned subnet (10.x.x.x).
> 

> 
> > Ron Johnson wrote:
> > > How are you securing the win2000server against The Bad Guys?
> >
> >
> > >
> > > On Mon, 2002-05-20 at 02:11, tony mollica wrote:
> > > > To answer your question, on the WAN side, the router and
> > > > the win2000server have static addresses assigned by the
> > > > maintainer of the WAN.  The IP of eth1 on the Linux box is
> > > > assigned from the same subnet by me.
> > > >
> > > > I'm using ipchains on the Linux box and I'm still somewhat
> > > > unclear on what you propose below.  I need to do more reading
> >
> > > >Hello.  I have a mixed network of Linux (Debian) and windows
> > > >machines in the arrangement below.
> >   __
> >  |  |
> >  |w2kas |
> >  |__|
> > |
> >  ___  __|___  __  __
> > |   ||  ||  ||  |
> > --->|router ||switch|| Linux||switch|
> >  T1 |___||__||__||__|
> >  |   |
> > 10.x.x.x/24 eth1 -  eth0 |__191.168.x.x
> >WANIP Masq Machine  LAN
> > > >
> > > >Real IP addresses on the router side with the
> > > >192.168.x.x on the switch side.  I need to put
> > > >a another box on the router side but still
> > > >have the internal LAN clients access this
> > > >computer from the inside.  The new computer
> > > >is required to be windows, and there will be
> > > >only windows clients accessing it.
> >
> >
> > tony mollica
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Is it perfectly to pass argv[] this way to function ?

2002-05-20 Thread Deepak Kotian




Hi,
 
Please check the code segment.
/*code start /
#include int func1(char 
**a_argv){ while (*a_argv!=NULL) printf("\n%s", 
*a_argv++); return(0);}
 
int main(int argc, char 
*argv[]){ func1(&argv[0]);}
/*code end /
 
This func1 function prints all the arguments with 
no problem, because main() is probably always 
on stack, so it works probably.
Do anyone see any problem, if one passes argv[] 
this way ? Will there be portability issues, like 
on other UNIX flavors,etc.
 
Please let me know.
 
Thanks and Regards
Deepak

Re: how does root run a graphical prog

2002-05-20 Thread Vineet Kumar

* Dave Sherohman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [020520 10:49]:
> On Mon, May 20, 2002 at 06:39:22PM +0200, Kristian Rink wrote:
> > Something like 'xhost +' basically should
> > allow anyone (on your system) to connect to X hence to display any
> > graphical output.
> 
> Bzzt!  'xhost +' allows anyone (on any system capable of contacting
> your system) to connect to X and display any graphical output.  Not
> good...
> 
> If you MUST use xhost, use 'xhost + localhost'.  But using xauth or
> XAUTHORITY is the Right Way To Do It.

Thanks Dave! You just pointed out one of the many, many, MANY reasons to
NEVER USE xhost. The reason you just illustrated: "When you might want
to do 'xhost +localhost', you might accidentally enter
'xhost + localhost', which has the same as effect as 'xhost +'.

Even if you DID get it "right", 'xhost +localhost' allows anyone on
localhost to connect to your X server. Probably not what you want,
especially on a system with many users, or any system with any users you
don't fully trust (probably every system).

It's worth noting that the danger isn't just that anyone can display
apps on your display. In addition to being able to open windows on your
display, anyone else would be able to destroy any (or all) of
your windows, view the contents of your screen remotely, log your
keystrokes, or generate /any/ X event.

This horse has been beaten to death. Search google and you'll probably
come up with a kmself rant (TM) about why xhost is bad, along with info
from plenty of other enlightened individuals.

Thankfully, debian's X config has by default an option (and I won't tell
you which if you don't know, because you shouldn't remove it) that
disables the X server from listening for and accepting incoming tcp
connections, so 'xhost +' won't hurt you as much as it should.

Use su and read the originating user's ~/.Xauthority, or use ssh's X
forwarding.

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Word. (and "too late.")

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Can a Package be installed that only effects 1 user account?

2002-05-20 Thread John Richardson

Hello,

Can a Package be installed that only effects 1 user account?

One user needs an old egcs compiler. The rest of the users need the gcc
2.95 or gcc 3 compiler when upgraded.

Can dpkg be used to install the .deb file so that it applies to just 1
user's account?

The man dpkg, man dselect pages and the Package Management System topic in
the FAQ does not seem to have any guidance on this question?

John F. Richardson


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Calendar/scheduling softwae fro debain?

2002-05-20 Thread stan

Can anyone recomend a nice time schedulign software application that's in
Debain Woody's archive? A Gnome interface would be a plus.

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Re: how does root run a graphical prog

On Mon, May 20, 2002 at 12:37:28PM -0500, Dave Sherohman wrote:
> On Mon, May 20, 2002 at 06:49:19PM +0200, Nicos Gollan wrote:
> > You could try using ssh with X forwarding for that. Just "ssh
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]" should do the trick. It's not the best way, but it
> > works.
> 
> ...unless you're on a system which is configured to disallow remote
> root logins via ssh.  (Such as, say, the default Debian
> configuration.)

Not in woody and sid, at least. See the paragraphs in
/usr/share/doc/ssh/README.Debian headed "PermitRootLogin set to yes".

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Re: Install Debian for desktop

2002-05-20 Thread Osamu Aoki

On Sun, May 19, 2002 at 03:29:20PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On Sun, 2002-05-19 at 08:59, Osamu Aoki wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > On Sun, May 19, 2002 at 02:33:21PM +0200, Robert Ian Smit wrote:
> [snip]
> > > I know Debian is more difficult to install, but I hope I will benefit by 
> > > learning a lot. The default install for Redhat 7.3 is quite nice, but 
> > > adapting it to my needs is a lot of work. I might as well try Debian and 
> > > only install things I really need to avoid bloat.
> > 
> > Configuring Debian exactly to your taste is not an easy task.  More
   ^^^
> > difficulty at start for sure than Redhat.  But "UPGRADING" with latest
> > release is very easy.
> 
> Initial configuration isn't _that_ bad!

I am not smart enough to claim that configuring any OS exactly to your
taste is not an easy task.  RH comparison, I believe is more nicely
described by Karsten.

> [snip]
> > Or if you are stupid enough like me to keep chasing latest testing version,
 ^^ Sorry typo :(  I knew it causes
 problem.
> > you will continuously upgrade. That is fun.
    This is my point :)
> 
> Hmm.  Let's not be so judgmental.  Sometimes, even the woody
> packages trail the unstable packages by quite a bit...

I am not judgmental.  Just a bad typer with broken grammar.

Because it is "Freeze" now. many testing lag behind.   Also if testing
lag behind unstable like some XFree86 at one point, just install it by

# apt-get install package/unstable

and fix bug yourself. Usually trivial dependency or install script
glitches.

> [snip] 
> > > I hope I have made clear what I want to do and would like to know about 
> > > experiences from other people. Please tell me if I am wrong in choosing 
> > > Debian for my needs. I want to and have time to learn, but would like to 
> > > have an indication whether my goals are reachable.
> > 
> > I can guarantee there will be steep learning curve.  If your objective is
> > to have M$ Word, Excel, and Outlook to exchange proprietary file
> > format files as many non-programmers do, I suggest do not bother Linux
> 
> On the contrary!  Mozilla 1.0rc2 & Evolution 1.05 are almost
> perfect substitutes for IE & Outlook.  OpenOffice 1.0 is great,
> though not perfect, at converting Office files.

There is nothing like "almost pregnant".  No matter how similar they
are, they are different softwares.

I think these are great softwares and I think functionality wise they
are quite good.  But expectation of user needs to be aligned properly.
This was intent of my message.  If some one think these to be complete
plug-in replacements, they will bitch without reason for trivial
differences.  

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Re: C64 emulator

2002-05-20 Thread Paul Dersey

Hi,

I like vice a lot.  It has worked without any problems with every game
I have tried with it.  It has a fullscreen mode and joystick support as
well.

Paul

On Mon, May 20, 2002 at 06:04:34PM +0200, Balazs Javor wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> What is the best C64 emulator for Linux?
> After doing a search on Google, I've noticed that there are
> quite a few ones oout there.
> 
> I would very much welcome any recommendations you might have!
> 
> Many thanks for your help in advance!
> best regards,
> Balazs
> 
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Re: how does root run a graphical prog

2002-05-20 Thread Dave Sherohman

On Mon, May 20, 2002 at 06:49:19PM +0200, Nicos Gollan wrote:
> You could try using ssh with X forwarding for that. Just "ssh [EMAIL 
> PROTECTED]" 
> should do the trick. It's not the best way, but it works.

...unless you're on a system which is configured to disallow remote
root logins via ssh.  (Such as, say, the default Debian
configuration.)

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Re: how does root run a graphical prog

2002-05-20 Thread Dave Sherohman

On Mon, May 20, 2002 at 06:39:22PM +0200, Kristian Rink wrote:
> Something like 'xhost +' basically should
> allow anyone (on your system) to connect to X hence to display any
> graphical output.

Bzzt!  'xhost +' allows anyone (on any system capable of contacting
your system) to connect to X and display any graphical output.  Not
good...

If you MUST use xhost, use 'xhost + localhost'.  But using xauth or
XAUTHORITY is the Right Way To Do It.

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Re: Fonts and XFree86

2002-05-20 Thread Daniel D Jones

On Mon, 2002-05-20 at 12:44, Nicos Gollan wrote:
> On Monday 20 May 2002 16:28, Daniel D Jones wrote:
> 
> > But I've now discovered that something funky is going on.
> >
> > Under Openoffice, the truetype fonts are available.  They aren't
> > available anywhere else I've found.  I'm running KDE 2.  The fonts
> > aren't available under the ControlCenter.  They don't show up in kword,
> > konsole, or any other place I've checked.  I created a document in
> > Openoffice using various fonts and they display and print just fine.
> > Saving the document and reopening it in kword, the fonts all show up as
> > Utopian.
> >
> > It appears that the problem isn't with XFree86 but perhaps with KDE?
> 
> Does xfontsel display the truetype fonts? What does xlsfonts say? (Please for 
> the love of God and my mailbox, don't attach the xlsfonts output ;-) )

Why not?  xlsfonts only spits out 18,700+ lines! And xfontsel shows over
150 fonts under the "family" tab.




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Accounting/Payroll software

2002-05-20 Thread No Realm


Does anyone know of a GNU replacememt for RealWorld accounting software 
(RealWorld is DOS based and is produced by Great Plains, which is owned by MS)?
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Re: att and cable modem

Ron Johnson, 2002-May-18 21:29 -0500:
> On Sat, 2002-05-18 at 21:04, Deva Seetharam wrote:
> > hi all
> > i run debian kernel 2.4.18 on a ibm t22 notebook. i am trying
> > to connect to att cable-modem using the intel ethernet card.  
> >  
> > i have pump as the dhcp client. i dont have dhcp-client installed.
> > 
> > my /etc/network/interfaces has the entry:
> > iface eth1 inet dhcp
> > 
> > when i do a ifup eth1 or pump -i eth1, i get the message "operation
> > failed". (btw, i did register the mac address with att.)
> > 
> > what could be wrong?
> 
> Try dhcp-client.  I couldn't get pump to work either, even 
> though it worked fine when I used Mandrake.

Ditto on pump.  I had to use dhcp-client as well.

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Re: Install Debian for desktop

2002-05-20 Thread Osamu Aoki

On Mon, May 20, 2002 at 10:37:26AM +0100, Peter Whysall wrote:
> on Mon, May 20, 2002, Karsten M. Self (kmself@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
> > on Sun, May 19, 2002, Jamin W. Collins ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > > On Sun, 19 May 2002 14:33:21 +0200
> > > "Robert Ian Smit" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > I know Debian is more difficult to install, but I hope I will benefit by
> > > > learning a lot. 
> > > 
> > > As you've no doubt already experienced, the Debian install is text based. 
> > > No fancy GUI.  But other than that I can't say that the install was trully
> > > any more difficult than any of the other distros that I've tried.
> > 
> > Having done several Debian and RH installs in the past four months, some
> > curves:
> > 
> > 
> > Other odd'n'ends.  A good set of TrueType fonts (the set that Legacy MS
> > Windows ships with somehow finds its way onto many GNU/Linux systems) is
> > pretty much a necessity.  Configuration can't get much easier than this:
> > 
> > http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/mini/TT-XFree86-2.html
> 
> At least on my unstable system, I just did "apt-get install
> msttcorefonts".

It can be done in testing/woody too.  I have it and confirmed:

 $ apt-cache policy msttcorefonts
msttcorefonts:
  Installed: 1.0.0
  Candidate: 1.0.0
  Version Table:
 1.0.1 0
 70 http://http.us.debian.org unstable/contrib Packages
 *** 1.0.0 0
800 http://http.us.debian.org testing/contrib Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

This is not pure but nicer fonts.

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Re: Locale setting on my console to see Japanese character

Deepak Kotian, 2002-May-19 00:24 +0530:
>Hi,
> 
>I have all the locales on my machine. locale -a shows it.
>I have set the LANG as japanese, but when I do "ls -l" at command prompt
>on
>a directory. I do not proper Japanese character in the
>time stamp column of the output. It is not English.
>It seems the terminal is not able to display Japanese.
> 
>I want japanese charaters to be displayed on my LINUX console.
> 
>What do I have to do ?
>I do not/cannot use Japanese Windows Client.
>If anyone has any idea, please let me know.
> 
>Thanks and Regards
>Deepak

I'm going through the same thing and I managed to fix it, at least
temporarily.  

I did "dpkg-reconfigure locales" to make sure the proper locale was
chosen first.  Then, I checked the /etc/environment file and changed
the LANG setting there and then checked /etc/profile to see if
anything was set there for LANG or LC_*, but nothing was.  I then
changed the environment variable with "export LANG=en_US".  And that
did the trick.  Look for an LC_ settings too, such as LC_ALL or
LC_LIBRARY.  These would need changing too.

I hope this helps...jc

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Re: how does root run a graphical prog

2002-05-20 Thread Peter Hicks

On Mon, May 20, 2002 at 11:45:31PM +0700, Willy S wrote:
>hi,
>
>How come root can not run a graphical program under other user
>session. Let say, I do 'su' and I try to launch gkrellm. Xterm will
>produce this message:
>
>Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
>Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server
>

Just put this in your .bashrc file

XAUTHORITY=$HOME/.Xauthority

export XAUTHORITY



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