Re: NTFS partition only readable by Root

[Marc Barnett]

On Sun, Jun 30, 2002 at 12:32:09AM -0400, tvn1981 wrote:
> I have ntfs (win2k) mounted on /mnt/hda1, but it's only readable by
> root.  I can mount it as a user however.  Just not readable by user
> 
> this's what I have in the fstab file
> 
> /dev/hda1   /mnt/hda1   ntfs   
> user,noauto,ro,exec,noatime 

Set the user, the group and/or filemask in the fstab.

uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=007


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NTFS partition only readable by Root

[tvn1981]

Hi,

I have ntfs (win2k) mounted on /mnt/hda1, but it's only readable by
root.  I can mount it as a user however.  Just not readable by user

this's what I have in the fstab file

/dev/hda1   /mnt/hda1   ntfs   
user,noauto,ro,exec,noatime 


- thanks 


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Re: Quicken under debian - gnucash

[David P James]

Paul Scott,,, wrote:
> David P James wrote:
>
>> Paul Scott,,, wrote:
>>> Neal Lippman wrote:
>>>
 I am wondering if anyone could recommend a solution
 for using Quicken on my debian woody system.
 Quicken is essentially the ONLY windows application
 that I still need, and thus is the only reason that
 my laptop still has windows98 loaded on it.
>>
>> Except unfortunately gnucash mangles the concepts of
>> 'categories' and 'accounts', which, to be honest, I
>> really do not like.
>
>
> It took me a moment to get used to it but categories
> really are accounts so that just made it easier for me to
> move on to other uses for their automatic double entry.
>

I still don't like it much. Quicken accounts are "liquid" in
that they hold (hopefully) money. But categories do not;
they are where money goes or comes from but they do not in
themselves hold any money. That is, my chequing account
holds money; my car's gas expenditure category/account does
not. I understand the use of double entry but it is still
quite annoying. The numbers that show up in the totals
column at the right are almost completely meaningless for
anything orther than the "liquid" accounts.

>> On the flip side, guncash did detect some mistakes that
>> had gone uncorrected in my Quicken files for years, so
>> I went back and fixed them in Quicken.
>
>
> That's good.
>
>> At this point I'm still using Quicken and hence Windows
>> 95. I'm going to try an account-by-account import into
>> kmymoney2 (mentionned in a recent Debian Weekly News)
>> shortly. I tried a whole import (as in gnucash) but
>> that got really botched up.
>
>
> gnucash imported a very large setup for me with no
> errors.  The only problem I had was getting used to the
> sequence for entering splits.

Once I fixed my years-old problems in Quicken the import
went well for me as well, though not without annoyances.
Being a Canadian, I became just a little bit sick of seeing
"CAD" all over the place. Plus there was no listing for the
TSE (Toronto Stock Exchange) in the list of exchanges for my
score or so of mutual funds. In fact, the overall handling
of mutual funds was very badly mangled. For reasons I cannot
fathom, dividends, interest and capital gains to each fund
were assigned an account of their own. It's almost
impossible to get a handle on the value of one's portfolio
through time using Gnucash as it refuses to give you a value
balance even on dates when it has everything it needs ... ie
if you buy or sell shares then both a share price and a
total quantity of shares is available for that day, so an
asset calculation can be but isn't performed, unlike in
Quicken. I also really miss Quicken's willingness to
estimate or give you a last known value - that little blue
'e' was always a good incentive to go update things so as to
get a more precise number. Now I just see zeros all over.



>
>> Of course, what I would really like to see is Quicken
>> ported to Linux, even if I had to pay for it.
>
>
> I had similar thoughts but I'm glad that gnucash expanded
> my mind a little.  Now I only use Windows for things
> people pay me to do.
>
> Paul
>
> Paul
>
>

I'm glad you like it but I just find it too much of a pain.
Not to mention worries of backwards-compatibility with
Quicken - I don't want to find that in a couple of years
Quicken is ported to linux but all my data for the previous
years is unusable. Anyway, this is straying a little
off-topic for a debian mailing list :)

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horde

[Expert User]

Has anybody tried 2.1 horde with 3.1 imp on debian?
It was released very recently.
Does anybody know if .debs for these new releases are available? where?

thanks,


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Re: Setting up a server

[Expert User]

Try bastille-firewall. This will setup NAT as well as a good firewall
for you.

apt-get install bastille
/usr/sbin/InteractiveBastille

Answer the questions. If you are not sure, accept defaults.
The main thing you want to be careful about is the 'trusted' interfaces
and selecting which ports you want to keep open. If you are only using
this box as a NAT, keep all ports closed.

Works like a charm.

Good luck.



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Re: Erratic mouse in Debian Potota install

[Elaine Tsiang]

It is sufficient in Debian Potato to just replace /dev/psaux with 
/dev/gpmdata in /etc/X11/XF80Config, after the change in /etc/gpm.conf.

Here is an earlier discussion on the list about the same problem (but if you 
don't know it's the same problem, you can't search for it):

http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2002/debian-user-200204/msg00339.html

Thanks everybody for the quick help.

Elaine

On Saturday 29 June 2002 01:28 am, Gary Turner wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Jun 2002 23:33:02 -0700, Elaine Tsiang wrote:
> 
> >The machine is Dell stock, which came with RedHat 6.2 pre-installed. It 
has 
> >been running well for > 2 years. I decided to try Debian on it.
> >
> >The installation completed with an apparent successful XFree86 
configuration.
> >Upon reboot, X starts up fine, and the Debian splash screen is displayed 
with 
> >some initial icons. But the mouse cursor freezes, appears and disappears, 
> >moves irratically, and mouse clicks have random delayed effects. Needless 
to 
> >say, it is not usable.
> >
> >The mouse is PS/2. I have the standard "Pointer" section:
> >
> >Protocal "PS/2"
> >Device "/dev/psaux"
> >
> >I am running twm, xdm and gnome.
> >
> >I have re-run XF86Setup many times, each time, the mouse works fine within 
> >XF86Setup. So maybe it's a problem with twm, etc.?
> >
> >Very late on a Friday, would appreciate some hint. Otherwise I'll have to 
> >abandon Debian, and go to RedHat 7.2, which is running fine on another 
> >machine with a PS/2.
> 
> Sounds like you have gpm running (lets mouse run in console).  That
> conflicts with /dev/psaux.  Make the following configuration changes:
> 
> /etc/gpm.conf
> 
> #  This file is used by /etc/init.d/gpm and can be modified by
> #  /usr/sbin/gpmconfig.
> #
> device=/dev/psaux
> responsiveness=
> repeat_type=raw# <--- acts as source for X's mouse
> type=ps2
> append=""
> 
> /etx/X11/XF86Config[-4]  depends on version
> 
> Section "InputDevice"
> Identifier  "Configured Mouse"
> Driver  "mouse"
> Option  "CorePointer"
> Option  "Device""/dev/gpmdata"
> #^
> # reads the raw data from gpm without conflict
> 
> Option  "Protocol"  "PS/2"
> Option  "Emulate3Buttons"   "true"
> Option  "ZAxisMapping"  "4 5"
> EndSection
> 
> If I haven't left anything out, that ought to do it. Do "/etc/init.d/gpm
> restart" Then restart X.
> --
> gt
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> another Evil Empire (tm)  began its nefarious rise. -- gt
> Coincidence?  I think not.
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xawtv: Can't select language with bilingual programming

[Viktor Rosenfeld]

Hi,

after upgrading to XFree86 4.1 some while ago, xawtv stopped
distinguishing between the two audio channels.  This is no problem with
normal programming, but when there's bilingual content, I always hear
both languages at the same time.  Which is annoying.

Is there anyway to fix that?

Thanks,
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Re: Lost my viewports in sawfish!

[Rich Rudnick]

On Sat, 2002-06-29 at 11:48, Steve Juranich wrote:
> 
> Okay, this whole GNOME2 crap has _GOT_ to stop.  I'm really starting to get
> pissed off. I'll probably end up pinning my distro to testing if this goes on
> much longer.
> 
> 
> It's bad enough that the new sawfish binaries don't read my old configuration 
> info for viewport/workspace information.  But they don't even provide me with 
> the stuff to configure my wm back to the way I had it before.  The 
> sawfish-configurator no longer allows me to add/delete viewports to the 
> desktop.  All I can do is add workspaces.  I like to work with one workspace 
> and a 2x2 grid of viewports (like I have fvwm2 set up at work).  But I can't 
> even do this now.  All I can do is add desktops.  It would be okay, except 
> sawfish workspaces don't understand the 2x2 geometry that I like to work with.
> 
> Has anybody found this configuration stuff yet?  I've looked in my ~/.sawfish 
> directory, but I can't find what needs to be fixed.  Thanks.
> 

It's in the workspace switcher. 

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Re: D-Link DFE-690TXD

[Derrick 'dman' Hudson]

On Sat, Jun 29, 2002 at 09:28:12PM -0400, Joe Paxton wrote:
| When trying to compile module for D-Link DFE-690TXD under Woody,

No need.  

$ pwd
/usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.18/drivers/net

$ grep DFE-690 *
8139too.c:  { "D-Link DFE-690TXD (RealTek RTL8139)", RTL8139_CAPS },


Install a recent 2.4 kernel (woody has packages for them) and use the
'8139too' driver.  It's already compiled.

| as I had installed the deb for pcmcia-source (3.1.33-6). Kernel version 
| 2.4.18, no pcmcia support.

You don't need the source for that either :

kernel-pcmcia-modules-2.4.18-386
kernel-pcmcia-modules-2.4.18-686
pcmcia-cs

I have a laptop with some D-Link PCMCIA card (I don't remember the
model, I'm not by the laptop, and 'lspci' doesn't say) and I didn't
need to compile anything from source to get it to work.  I'm using the
8139too driver.  It works great, really :-).

HTH,
-D

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D-Link DFE-690TXD

[Joe Paxton]

When trying to compile module for D-Link DFE-690TXD under Woody, receive 
the following output:


// Begin
In file included from dfe690.c:110:
/usr/include/linux/malloc.h:4: warning: #warning linux/malloc.h is 
deprecated, use linux/slab.h instead.

In file included from dfe690.c:130:
kern_compat.h:463: warning: static declaration for `pci_find_capability' 
follows non-static

dfe690.c: In function `rtl8129_open':
dfe690.c:716: structure has no member named `tbusy'
dfe690.c:717: structure has no member named `interrupt'
dfe690.c:718: structure has no member named `start'
dfe690.c: In function `rtl8129_timer':
dfe690.c:808: structure has no member named `interrupt'
dfe690.c:814: structure has no member named `tbusy'
dfe690.c: In function `rtl8129_tx_timeout':
dfe690.c:941: structure has no member named `tbusy'
dfe690.c: In function `rtl8129_start_xmit':
dfe690.c:972: structure has no member named `tbusy'
dfe690.c:995: structure has no member named `tbusy'
dfe690.c:999: structure has no member named `tbusy'
dfe690.c: In function `rtl8129_interrupt':
dfe690.c:1024: structure has no member named `interrupt'
dfe690.c:1027: structure has no member named `interrupt'
dfe690.c:1124: structure has no member named `tbusy'
dfe690.c:1125: `NET_BH' undeclared (first use in this function)
dfe690.c:1125: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
dfe690.c:1125: for each function it appears in.)
dfe690.c:1200: structure has no member named `interrupt'
dfe690.c: In function `rtl8129_close':
dfe690.c:1323: structure has no member named `start'
dfe690.c:1324: structure has no member named `tbusy'
dfe690.c: In function `rtl8129_get_stats':
dfe690.c:1389: structure has no member named `start'
// End

INSTALL.TXT on cd provided by manufacturer recommends following command 
to:


// Begin
gcc -DCARDBUS -DMODULE -D_KERNEL_ -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O6 -c 
dfe690.c -o dfe690_cb.o -I/usr/src/linux/pcmcia-cs-3.0.9/include/pcmcia/

// End

With a note that:

// Begin
The directory "pcmcia-cs-3.0.9" stands for the card service version you 
use. Please change it to the version on your system in order to include 
proper .h file. The final file is dfe690_cb.o

// End

I used the following command, per my variables:

// Begin
gcc -DCARDBUS -DMODULE -D_KERNEL_ -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O6 -c 
dfe690.c -o dfe690_cb.o -I/usr/src/modules/pcmcia-cs/include/pcmcia

// End

as I had installed the deb for pcmcia-source (3.1.33-6). Kernel version 
2.4.18, no pcmcia support. All other utils versions present in Woody as 
of the date of this post.


Again, source file for module was provided by manufacturer. Appreciate 
any help.


Joe


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checkinstall

[Robert_L]

Hi all.
Anyone know how to have checkinstall NOT add the source files to the deb it 
creates?  It seems to me that it used to prompt me, asking if I would like 
them included.  Now it just goes ahead and builds with every damn source 
file included.

Perhaps with the --exclude=  switch?  

But I remember being prompted for inclusion of these files . . .

It's confusing me.

all the best,
Robert_L


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Re: Display problem with VNC, Mozilla and MathML

[Kent West]

Vincent Lefevre wrote:


When I use VNC (Debian packages version 3.3.3r2-20), Mozilla doesn't
display the following page correctly:

 http://www.mozilla.org/projects/mathml/demo/basics.xhtml

Some parts are not displayed. Can anyone else reproduce the problem?

 



I didn't try it through VNC, but when I first connected it popped up a window 
saying I needed to install some fonts to see the page properly. Then I closed 
the window and went to the site again and was not given the warning. Perhaps 
you don't have those fonts and it thinks it's already told you once?

Kent





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[Robert James Onions]

Sorry about sending that chain letter.  It was an accident.
Sincerely,
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Display problem with VNC, Mozilla and MathML

[Vincent Lefevre]

When I use VNC (Debian packages version 3.3.3r2-20), Mozilla doesn't
display the following page correctly:

  http://www.mozilla.org/projects/mathml/demo/basics.xhtml

Some parts are not displayed. Can anyone else reproduce the problem?

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Re: apt-get dist-upgrade error

[Derrick 'dman' Hudson]

On Sat, Jun 29, 2002 at 03:48:15PM -0400, Scott Henson wrote:
 
| I then looked at dmesg and I see a bunch of errors concerning my hdd.   
| 
| end_request: I/O error, dev 16:08 (hdc), sector 229232
| hdc: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
| hdc: dma_intr: error=0x40 { UncorrectableError }, LBAsect=72521795,
| sector=229232
| end_request: I/O error, dev 16:08 (hdc), sector 229232
| hdc: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
| hdc: dma_intr: error=0x40 { UncorrectableError }, LBAsect=72521795,
| sector=229232
| end_request: I/O error, dev 16:08 (hdc), sector 229232

That's not a good sign.  It looks like you have a bad sector on the
disk, and that sector is right in the middle of your apt data files.
 
| These all appear when I try to do apt-get dist-upgrade.  Now hdc is a
| new maxtor 40 gig hard drive that is just barely 6 months old.  It
| contains all of my system partitions.

| Is it looking like its about to fail?

Looks like it to me.

| Should I be looking into backing stuff up onto my other hard
| drives?

Yes.

| Or should I just fsck the partition and see what comes up?

Yes.

| Any help would be much appreciated.  

Do a complete backup of everything.  Then grab a MS-DOS bootable
floppy and Maxtor's diagnostic utility from their web site.  Run the
utility, and hopefully you'll get an error code that you can then
provide to their customer service to get a replacement drive.  I've
done this before, except it turned out that my problem was a weak
power supply (110W, Compaq).  (I'm still using my drive, btw, but in a
different machine.)

HTH,
-D

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Re: [he's got psm] Re: can't access some https with mozilla

[Ben Thompson]

> >>Well, once I viewed the source and copied the link (ignore all the stuff
> >>after "SmileBanking") I got the form just fine. Here's the link I used:
> >>
> >>https://welcome5.smile.co.uk/servlet/SmileBanking
> >>
> >>What mozilla version are you using? (dpkg -l mozilla*) I'm running a
> >>nightly build which may, conceivably, have something to do with it since
> >>it's more recent than the debian packages.
> >>
> >>If you still have problems, you might want to try downloading a nightly
> >>(I'm running 2002062604) from http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla/nightly
> >>and try with that. If you get the  mozilla-i686-pc-linux-gnu-sea.tar.gz
> >>file, it'll come with an installer that'll unzip the binary into a
> >>directory and then all you have to do is run ./mozilla from that
> >>directory (it won't interfere with the debian package if you install it
> >>as user and specify that it be placed in your home directory).
> >>
> >>If even that doesn't work, you might want to try listing what exactly
> >>you're doing, step by step, and maybe someone can figure out what the
> >>problem is.
> >
> > I have tried the link directly but it just gives the same results; a
> > blank screen.
> > My mozilla is version 1.0.0-3, but I have another machine at work running
> > the same version, which has never had any problems.
> > Would I be right in assuming that Java is working OK because it opens the
> > window? It is when I try to acces the link that the page freezes.
>
> Test your Java at a different site (such as http://www.popcap.com and
> play a quick game of Diamond Mine).
>
> Empty out your cache (both RAM and disk).
>

I have tested Java with the Diamond Mine game, and it is OK.
I have also downloaded mozilla 2002062604, but I found that it gave exactly 
the same results (blank page).

I have also got Netscape 4.77 installed, and curiously it behaves exactly the 
same as mozilla (blank page on the smile account login).
Does anyone think that this could be a clue?


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Re: How do I change de IP addresses in woody

[Gary Turner]

On Fri, 28 Jun 2002 17:09:43 -0400, Noah Meyerhans wrote:

>On Fri, Jun 28, 2002 at 01:14:17PM -0600, Romel Sandoval wrote:
>> I want to change the IP address of two woody machines to 192.168.1.x and
>> I changed the /etc/hosts file but I notice that the machines still
>> respond to their old IP adresses. Well I know this by using the ping
>> command.
>
>It's amazing the variety of responses I've seen to your question here.
>Just edit /etc/network/interfaces.  Don't look in /etc/init.d/ anywhere,
>don't install any new software, just edit the one file that the
>interface gets its IP address from.

I must look like an idiot.  You will find my reply on this question on
down the thread.  My ISP is remaking "The Night of the Living Brain
Dead" without the benefit of Linea Quigley.  From your machine to
swbell, 1 hr.  From there, across the room to their POP server, 18 hrs.
Ack!  They could have hand delivered the damn thing faster.  It's only
about 15 miles.
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Re: Flash Editor for Debian

[Gerhard Gaussling]

Am Samstag, 29. Juni 2002 02:37 schrieb Waheed Islam:
> it's probably not much but you might wanna check out:
> http://freshmeat.net/projects/swiftgenerator/?topic_id=90

For dynamically generation of swf-files see also:

http://ming.sourceforge.net/  php
http://www.flashgap.com/ java

swish v2.0 might run under wine. I don't know. 
Pricing is about ~50 us$

flash in general:
http://yclept.ucdavis.edu/~alxkit/stranger.html

GPL flash (4) plugin:
http://www.swift-tools.com/Flash/

HTH

gerhard


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Re: xterm & mc & ALT+

[Osamu Aoki]

On Fri, Jun 28, 2002 at 02:04:54PM +0200, Patrik Modesto wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> I've change my terminal from rxvt to xterm and since then, I can't use
> any ALT+ combination in Midnight Commmander. :-(( Pressing ALT+c
> gives '?' in terminal. What is wrong?

One easy solution is to use key sequence 

ESC number-key

This works even from puTTY / W32

Osamu

You can fix XTERM issues from "ESC 9 >> Option >> Lern-key"
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apt-get dist-upgrade error

[Scott Henson]

I am getting this really wierd error from apt-get.  
apt-get dist-upgrade 
Reading Package Lists... Done 
Bus errorDependency Tree... 0% 

It is really weird cause I know apt should be alright because it ran
just fine last night in my cron job that fetches all the new packages
for my upgrade.  Then today when I tried to do an apt-get dist-upgrade
to install them all, it gave me that error. 

I then looked at dmesg and I see a bunch of errors concerning my hdd.   

end_request: I/O error, dev 16:08 (hdc), sector 229232
hdc: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
hdc: dma_intr: error=0x40 { UncorrectableError }, LBAsect=72521795,
sector=229232
end_request: I/O error, dev 16:08 (hdc), sector 229232
hdc: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
hdc: dma_intr: error=0x40 { UncorrectableError }, LBAsect=72521795,
sector=229232
end_request: I/O error, dev 16:08 (hdc), sector 229232

These all appear when I try to do apt-get dist-upgrade.  Now hdc is a
new maxtor 40 gig hard drive that is just barely 6 months old.  It
contains all of my system partitions.  Is it looking like its about to
fail?  Should I be looking into backing stuff up onto my other hard
drives?  Or should I just fsck the partition and see what comes up?  Any
help would be much appreciated.  
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Re: kernel upgrade and dhcp

[Derrick 'dman' Hudson]

On Fri, Jun 28, 2002 at 07:41:13PM -0500, Larry Elmore wrote:
| I've recently installed Sid on a new computer and use a Linksys router 
| and cable modem for Internet access. I've built a 2.4.18 kernel image 
| package, and it works fine except for networking.
| 
| I've read the relevant HOW-TOs,

Including this one?

http://www.isc.org/products/DHCP/v2-readme.html#5.1.2

Make sure CONFIG_PACKET (Packet socket) and CONFIG_FILTER (Socket
Filtering) are enabled in your kernel configuration

(also included as /usr/share/doc/dhcp-client/README.gz)

HTH,
-D

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Solved [deem@wdm.com: /dev/sndstat problem - Advice ?]

[W.D.McKinney]

I added "user-id" to group audio 
and wala, volume and mixers work.

Duh.

/Dee
--- Begin Message ---
Ok, on my laptop with Debian 3.0 (sid) and all is well cept
for the mixer (sound level) and /dev/sndstat is there.

crwxrwxrwx1 root audio 14,   6 Mar 14 12:51 sndstat

(I gave it 0777 to test.)

Modules loaded are :

maestro3   24072   0 
soundcore   2452   2  [maestro3]

Sound plays OK, I would just like to run a mixer. No mixer, IE.
aumix,kmix.xmmix work?

Any ideas for a not so good "sound" user :-) ?

Thanks
/Dee


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Re: Advogato: Debian considered harmful

[ben]

On Saturday 29 June 2002 11:53 am, Dave Sherohman wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 28, 2002 at 05:34:38PM -0700, Angus Scott-Fleming wrote:
> > Debian considered harmful?
> >
> > http://newsvac.newsforge.com/newsvac/02/06/28/2219224.shtml?tid=23
>
> Note that the title is merely intended to grab attantion (and the
> author admits to this in the comments on it).  Nothing "harmful" is
> mentioned in the article.  It basically just says "Debian has a rep
> for being cool because it's hard to install, but I don't know whether
> this is true or not because I decided to use easier distros instead."

it reads like a bunch of virgin adolescents discussing the kama sutra.

ben


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kernel upgrade and dhcp

[Larry Elmore]

I've recently installed Sid on a new computer and use a Linksys router 
and cable modem for Internet access. I've built a 2.4.18 kernel image 
package, and it works fine except for networking.


I've read the relevant HOW-TOs, and searched the list archives, but 
haven't been able to discover what the problem is, except that it's got 
something to do with DHCP. The DHCP mini-HOW-TO seems particularly useless.


What really puzzles me is that the installation kernel works fine with 
DHCP, but the new kernel doesn't. This is the first time I've ever run 
into this problem and I've been using Debian for over 3 years now (this 
is the first time I've attempted a kernel upgrade since I got broadband 
Internet access, but have had a LAN for a couple of years). I've got 
Packet socket, Network packet filtering, TCP/IP networking, IP: 
multicasting, IP: kernel level autoconfiguration, IP: DHCP support, and 
the proper network card options enabled in the kernel build. What am I 
missing?


Thanks!
--Larry


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Fwd: Fw: FW: READ ALONE.....ESPECIALLY THE LAST PART

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Re: Lost my viewports in sawfish!

[Jerome Warnier]

Steve Juranich wrote:


Okay, this whole GNOME2 crap has _GOT_ to stop.  I'm really starting to get
pissed off. I'll probably end up pinning my distro to testing if this goes on
much longer.


It's bad enough that the new sawfish binaries don't read my old configuration 
info for viewport/workspace information.  But they don't even provide me with 
the stuff to configure my wm back to the way I had it before.  The 
sawfish-configurator no longer allows me to add/delete viewports to the 
desktop.  All I can do is add workspaces.  I like to work with one workspace 
and a 2x2 grid of viewports (like I have fvwm2 set up at work).  But I can't 
even do this now.  All I can do is add desktops.  It would be okay, except 
sawfish workspaces don't understand the 2x2 geometry that I like to work with.

It seems like viewports were removed from Sawfish in GNOME2.

Just take a look at:
http://www.gnome.org/start/2.0/errors.html#id2829718

In general, take a look at the Release Notes *before* upgrading.
Nobody forced you to do so, so don't claim so loud that you made a mistake.
You have the freedom to upgrade or not, don't ask more.

Has anybody found this configuration stuff yet?  I've looked in my ~/.sawfish 
directory, but I can't find what needs to be fixed.  Thanks.


Hope my links help...

I think I've come up with a new slogan for the new GNOME2 setup: 
"GNOME2 -- Just like the old GNOME, only uglier and less configurable!"


KDE's starting to look better and better.

Maybe it's your way to go?



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Re: Lost my viewports in sawfish!

[Colin Watson]

On Sat, Jun 29, 2002 at 11:48:31AM -0700, Steve Juranich wrote:
> It's bad enough that the new sawfish binaries don't read my old configuration 
> info for viewport/workspace information.  But they don't even provide me with 
> the stuff to configure my wm back to the way I had it before.  The 
> sawfish-configurator no longer allows me to add/delete viewports to the 
> desktop.  All I can do is add workspaces.  I like to work with one workspace 
> and a 2x2 grid of viewports (like I have fvwm2 set up at work).  But I can't 
> even do this now.  All I can do is add desktops.  It would be okay, except 
> sawfish workspaces don't understand the 2x2 geometry that I like to work with.

Yep. The maintainer says, approximately, "viewports are gone, use
workspaces instead"; I don't know if upstream have any more useful
comments on this. I've downgraded to the last version that worked for
noe.

-- 
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Re: Problem with ssh

[Colin Watson]

On Sat, Jun 29, 2002 at 01:41:26PM -0500, Richard Cobbe wrote:
> Lo, on Saturday, June 29, Sam Varghese did write:
> > But does OpenSSH default to version 1 or version 2? I find that I can
> > log in to the two servers which I need to - one uses version 1 and the
> > other version 2 - and I don't need to supply the -2 switch.
> 
> I'm not entirely sure how OpenSSH decides which protocol version to
> use.  It's entirely possible that there's a hand-shaking phase in the
> connection process, during which the client and the server figure out
> which versions of the protocol they support, and in what order.

As far as I know that's what happens, and you can override it on a
server-by-server basis using the Protocol command in ~/.ssh/config. (See
ssh(1) or ssh_config(5), depending on your version of OpenSSH.)

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/dev/sndstat problem - Advice ?

[W.D.McKinney]

Ok, on my laptop with Debian 3.0 (sid) and all is well cept
for the mixer (sound level) and /dev/sndstat is there.

crwxrwxrwx1 root audio 14,   6 Mar 14 12:51 sndstat

(I gave it 0777 to test.)

Modules loaded are :

maestro3   24072   0 
soundcore   2452   2  [maestro3]

Sound plays OK, I would just like to run a mixer. No mixer, IE.
aumix,kmix.xmmix work?

Any ideas for a not so good "sound" user :-) ?

Thanks
/Dee


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Re: Advogato: Debian considered harmful

[Dave Sherohman]

On Fri, Jun 28, 2002 at 05:34:38PM -0700, Angus Scott-Fleming wrote:
> Debian considered harmful?

> http://newsvac.newsforge.com/newsvac/02/06/28/2219224.shtml?tid=23

Note that the title is merely intended to grab attantion (and the
author admits to this in the comments on it).  Nothing "harmful" is
mentioned in the article.  It basically just says "Debian has a rep
for being cool because it's hard to install, but I don't know whether
this is true or not because I decided to use easier distros instead."

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Lost my viewports in sawfish!

[Steve Juranich]

Okay, this whole GNOME2 crap has _GOT_ to stop.  I'm really starting to get
pissed off. I'll probably end up pinning my distro to testing if this goes on
much longer.


It's bad enough that the new sawfish binaries don't read my old configuration 
info for viewport/workspace information.  But they don't even provide me with 
the stuff to configure my wm back to the way I had it before.  The 
sawfish-configurator no longer allows me to add/delete viewports to the 
desktop.  All I can do is add workspaces.  I like to work with one workspace 
and a 2x2 grid of viewports (like I have fvwm2 set up at work).  But I can't 
even do this now.  All I can do is add desktops.  It would be okay, except 
sawfish workspaces don't understand the 2x2 geometry that I like to work with.

Has anybody found this configuration stuff yet?  I've looked in my ~/.sawfish 
directory, but I can't find what needs to be fixed.  Thanks.

I think I've come up with a new slogan for the new GNOME2 setup: 
"GNOME2 -- Just like the old GNOME, only uglier and less configurable!"

KDE's starting to look better and better.

--
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University of Washingtonhttp://ssli.ee.washington.edu/ssli



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Re: Problem with ssh

[Richard Cobbe]

Lo, on Saturday, June 29, Sam Varghese did write:

[ wrapped to 72 cols ]

> On Fri, Jun 28, 2002 at 05:33:17PM -0500, Richard Cobbe wrote:

> > Not correct.  In woody, both packages support both versions.  OpenSSH
> > defaults to protocol v1; for v2, supply the `-2' switch to ssh or add
> > the appropriate line to ~/.ssh/config.
> 
> Right, I discovered that I was using a version of ssh-non free as client
> rather than OpenSSH. 
> 
> But does OpenSSH default to version 1 or version 2? I find that I can
> log in to the two servers which I need to - one uses version 1 and the
> other version 2 - and I don't need to supply the -2 switch.

I'm not entirely sure how OpenSSH decides which protocol version to
use.  It's entirely possible that there's a hand-shaking phase in the
connection process, during which the client and the server figure out
which versions of the protocol they support, and in what order.

So, it would seem that my earlier statement about it defaulting to
version 1 may not be correct.  Mea culpa.  (Most of the machines that I
deal with are running potato, which until recently was restricted to
protocol v1.  The one woody machine I run only talks to a potato
machine, so the fact that it supports protocol v2 was, until I installed
the security fixes, irrelevant.)

Richard


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Re: Flash Editor for Debian

[Jerome Warnier]

Christian Schoenebeck wrote:

Hello,

I have to create some flash movie (or whatever they are called) at
work.  I will be using Flash FX on windows (I have to), but I would
like to play with it at home on my Debian box.  I've looked around,
but can not seem to find any, but are there any Flash editors/creators
for Debain?  Or even just Linux in general.



Flash player - yes, Flash creator - no, although Macromedia announced a Linux 
port a while ago, but who knows if that will really ever happen.


But I really miss something compareble to Flash for the open source community 
and I wonder why nobody has started such a project yet.


That's why SVG is made for. It is a open standard animated 
vector-graphics format.
Sadly, I don't know either if some editor already exists, but browsers 
like Mozilla should already be able to read and display it without trouble.




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cnet pro200 and ati expert 2000 pro 32mb

[Keevitajad]

hello,
 
i am just about to install debian linux on my 
system, but i got some questions about my network and video cards. do these have 
apropriate drivers within?
 
1. ati expert 2000 pro 32mb 
tv-out
2. cnet pro200
 
Keevitaja

Re: Gnome2 installation

[Hubert Chan]

Ack.  Sorry about the last post.  My finger slipped.

> "Bill" == Bill Moseley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Bill> Yesterday I was able to install Gnome2 by following the
Bill> instructions at http://www.hadess.net/idoru.php3

Bill> I reinstalled my laptop today, upgraded to unstable, and added:
Bill>   $ fgrep exper /etc/apt/sources.list
Bill>   deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ ../project/experimental main
Bill>   deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ ../project/experimental main

You should expect the dependencies in experimental to break once in a
while.  Try again later.

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Re: Gnome2 installation

[Hubert Chan]

> "Bill" == Bill Moseley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Bill> Yesterday I was able to install Gnome2 by following the
Bill> instructions at http://www.hadess.net/idoru.php3

Bill> I reinstalled my laptop today, upgraded to unstable, and added: $
Bill> fgrep exper /etc/apt/sources.list deb
Bill> http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ ../project/experimental main
Bill> deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ ../project/experimental
Bill> main

Bill> did a apt-get upgrade and then tried:

Bill> laptop:/home/moseley# apt-get install -t experimental nautilus2
Bill> gnome-panel2 gnome-applets2 gnome-utils gnome-terminal
Bill> gnome-control-center2 sawfish Reading Package Lists... Done
Bill> Building Dependency Tree... Done Some packages could not be
Bill> installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible
Bill> situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some
Bill> required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of
Bill> Incoming.  The following information may help to resolve the
Bill> situation:

Bill> Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies:
Bill> nautilus2: Depends: libnautilus2-2 (>= 2.0.0) but it is not going
Bill> to be installed Depends: librsvg2-2 (>= 2.0.0) but it is not
Bill> installable E: Sorry, broken packages

Bill> What I did notice yesterday was nautilus was crashing often.

Bill> Any ideas?

Bill> BTW -- anyone know of instructions for installing KDE3?  That
Bill> might be fun, too.

Bill> Thanks,

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Re: Frozen system

[Alex Malinovich]

On Sat, 2002-06-29 at 11:57, patrick wrote:
> 
> --- Bob Walicki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > This is probably a stupid question but I don't want to mess anything
> > up.  Our computer running Debian has frozen at the login screen.  No
> > keystrokes work, the mouse does nothing etc.  Further you can't login
> > from
> > other computers.  Is there a 'best' way to restart the thing? 
> > Anything
> > better than simply hitting the 'restart' button on the box itself?  I
> > would rather not do that if I risk screwin anything up as the system
> > seems
> > to have simply crashed. 
> 
> Unless you have support for the magic SysReq key built into your
> kernel, I'd say you have no other option than to cold boot.
> 
> If you do have magic Alt-SysReq enabled, then:
> 
> -s (sync disks), 
> -u (unmount disks), 
> -b (reboot, issued 20 second 

(Bob, I hope you don't mind me using your name for this. :)

I can see the headlines now:

"Linux user discovers hitherto unknown phenomenon"
June 29, 2083

New York City (AP) - It was just another ordinary day for Bob Walicki.
Working on his Debian GNU/Linux system with no problems. Then, suddenly,
something happened. The keyboard failed to respond. The mouse did
nothing. The machine appeared to have entered a comatose state where no
external stimuli were being registered. The panicked Walicki called out
for help, yet no one knew what to do. Finally, the experts were called
in. After a long and arduous investigation, it was discovered that this
was a situation called a "lockup". What causes such situations and how
to best go about resolving them is still a mystery. 

Experts are hoping that an investigation into the ruins of a temple in
Redmond, WA may yield clues. The temple was home to a cult of fanatical
proprietary software developers at the turn of the century. The members
of the cult all commited ritual suicide within the temple walls in 2008
as a result of a court ruling that proprietary software is evil and
should be abolished. It is known that, during their exploration into the
dark arts, this cult had experimented with this phenomenon called a
"lockup". It is further believed that they may have used this evil power
to enforce a sort of control on followers pocketbooks, requiring
constant updates to avoid the evil force.

Meanwhile Walicki must sit and wait, hoping that his faithful machine
will be alright. Friends and family are organizing a vigil over the
unfortunate computer for this evening to pray for its safe recovery.


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Re: Completely OT: Perl progress bar/meter

[Andrew Perrin]

On Sat, 29 Jun 2002, Colin Watson wrote:

> On Sat, Jun 29, 2002 at 04:21:21AM -0500, Alex Malinovich wrote:
> ... Be sure to
> print enough spaces to completely overwrite the previous text if what
> you're printing is shorter

printf() is your friend for this issue.

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Re: Frozen system

[patrick]

--- Bob Walicki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This is probably a stupid question but I don't want to mess anything
> up.  Our computer running Debian has frozen at the login screen.  No
> keystrokes work, the mouse does nothing etc.  Further you can't login
> from
> other computers.  Is there a 'best' way to restart the thing? 
> Anything
> better than simply hitting the 'restart' button on the box itself?  I
> would rather not do that if I risk screwin anything up as the system
> seems
> to have simply crashed. 
> 
> Please reply to the address above.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Bob
> 
> -- 

Unless you have support for the magic SysReq key built into your
kernel, I'd say you have no other option than to cold boot.

If you do have magic Alt-SysReq enabled, then:

-s (sync disks), 
-u (unmount disks), 
-b (reboot, issued 20 second 

HTH,
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Re: Resizing partitions..

[Alex Malinovich]

On Sat, 2002-06-29 at 07:45, Andrew Biggadike wrote:

> >From GNU's parted webpage
> (http://www.gnu.org/software/parted/parted.html) under Features: "For
> ext2, ext3 and reiserfs: the start of the partition must stay fixed." 
> This would prevent me from doing what I had intended.  Does this mean I
> must use Partition Magic, or do you know of other Linux-side tools?  (I
> did a quick look, but discovered nothing substantial)

Yup. That's entirely true. The beginning of a ext2 partition MUST stay
fixed for a RESIZE operation. A MOVE operation, on the other hand, is a
completely different issue. :) Just move the partition down and then
resize it up instead of the other way around.

> Also, someone was telling me that if I wanted to resize the / partition
> I would have to boot to another partition (say, a floppy) and perform
> the operations while / was not mounted.  Does this sound accurate?

Yes, that's correct. You can get a floppy boot disk with parted already
on it on the parted home page. The official floppy images can be found
at:

ftp://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/parted/bootdisk/

You can find lots of other ones if you do a quick google search.

> In an earlier post you had mentioned how odd it was to have /boot
> located where it was, and why - in that location - to have it at all. 
> Those partitions were left from an earlier version of Red Hat that I was
> playing around with some time ago (before I installed woody), and that
> was its default/recommended disk setup.

You may want to just create a /boot on / and get rid of that partition.
That's another 50 MB you can put on your ext2 partition. (And /boot
should never really get much bigger than 4-5 MB.)

-Alex


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FreeSwan Errors: Jun 29 01:08:11 Oneil Pluto[2694]: "/etc/ipsec.secrets" line 4: bad RSA key syntax

[Phillip Hofmeister]

All,

I have installed the source for freeswan (woody) on my potato box and compiled 
it.
When I add the following lines to my secrets file:

# This file holds shared secrets or RSA private keys for inter-Pluto
# authentication.  See ipsec_pluto(8) manpage, and HTML documentation.

: RSA /etc/ipsec.d/private/ns2.zionlth.org.key


I get the following error:

Jun 29 01:11:10 Oneil Pluto[2874]: loading secrets from "/etc/ipsec.secrets"
Jun 29 01:11:10 Oneil Pluto[2874]: "/etc/ipsec.secrets" line 4: bad RSA key 
syntax

I have checked the changelog and it appears there is a x509 patch in place
(I applied the maintainers diff file to the source...)

I would even stick the key in my secrets file directly if the fswcert utility
was included in the source kit (it does not appear to be).

Is the syntax of the config file right? (yes there is a line feed following the
: RSA line).  Does the patch currently in woody handle : RSA lines (the
documentation in src/freeswan-1.96/debian/x509patch-0.9.9-freeswan-1.96/README
says it does...)

Any help would be appreciated.  If I can't get this secrets file right can
anyone point me to the source for fswcert?

Thanks,

Phil


PS.  I am on neither of these lists.  Please CC me in replies.

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Frozen system

[Bob Walicki]

This is probably a stupid question but I don't want to mess anything
up.  Our computer running Debian has frozen at the login screen.  No
keystrokes work, the mouse does nothing etc.  Further you can't login from
other computers.  Is there a 'best' way to restart the thing?  Anything
better than simply hitting the 'restart' button on the box itself?  I
would rather not do that if I risk screwin anything up as the system seems
to have simply crashed. 

Please reply to the address above.

Thanks

Bob


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Re: Making a bootable rescue CD from a rescue floppy disk

[Dr. Sharukh K. R. Pavri.]

On Fri, 28 Jun 2002, ThanhVu Nguyen wrote:

> Hello,


> So I am thinking that if I can copy the image from my floppy disk to
> the cd, then it's possible that I can boot to the system.  But I am
> not sure how to copy the content of the Debian boot floppy to a CD and
> make that cd bootable.

to make a bootable CD from a floppy image check out

http://www.pavri.net/tips.html#CD

regards,

Sharukh
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Re: Quicken under debian - gnucash

[Paul Scott,,,]

David P James wrote:


Paul Scott,,, wrote:
> Neal Lippman wrote:
>
>> I am wondering if anyone could recommend a solution for
>> using Quicken on my debian woody system. Quicken is
>> essentially the ONLY windows application that I still
>> need, and thus is the only reason that my laptop still
>> has windows98 loaded on it.

Except unfortunately gnucash mangles the concepts of
'categories' and 'accounts', which, to be honest, I really
do not like.


It took me a moment to get used to it but categories really are accounts 
so that just made it easier for me to move on to other uses for their 
automatic double entry.



On the flip side, guncash did detect some
mistakes that had gone uncorrected in my Quicken files for
years, so I went back and fixed them in Quicken. 


That's good.


At this
point I'm still using Quicken and hence Windows 95. I'm
going to try an account-by-account import into kmymoney2
(mentionned in a recent Debian Weekly News) shortly. I tried
a whole import (as in gnucash) but that got really botched up. 


gnucash imported a very large setup for me with no errors.  The only 
problem I had was getting used to the sequence for entering splits.



Of course, what I would really like to see is Quicken ported
to Linux, even if I had to pay for it.


I had similar thoughts but I'm glad that gnucash expanded my mind a 
little.  Now I only use Windows for things people pay me to do.


Paul

Paul


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Re: Installing from ISO

[Sergey A. Ovchar]

CS> You can mount an ISO image on a Linux System with

CS> mount -t iso9660 -o ro,loop=/dev/loop0 your.iso /cdrom

CS> but of course that implies that you already have some Linux box where
CS> you can 
CS> mount the ISO and you have somehow access from your new box to that
CS> Linux  
CS> machine.

How to mount iso images I know. At current time I'm use RH7.3 ,which was 
installed from iso images. But I don't understand, how can I make the bootable 
floppy (in case with debian) and wat can I do further ;-(


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Re: Dual boot win98 w/ 2 hard drives

[nick lidakis]

Windows really wants to be the master, I think; in fact, it wants to be on the 
primary master.  My configuration is that the linux drive is the primary 
master and the windows drive is the secondary master, but LILO remaps the 
drives when booting windows to make the windows drive the primary on the fly.  
Here's the relevant section of my /etc/lilo.conf:


[snip]
other=/dev/hdc1
label="Windows"
loader = /boot/chain.b
   map-drive = 0x80
   to = 0x81
   map-drive = 0x81
   to = 0x80
table = /dev/hdc
[snip]

I had a similar problem as yours; I finally found the answer in a SuSE manual.  
Of course, now it doesn't matter, as I don't boot into windows anymore.. 
:)


Hope this helps,
David Richmond
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It worked like a charm. Thank you very much. I don't recall this 
documented in the lilo man page. I'll have to check again.



nick


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Re: Gnome2 installation

[Dan Griswold]

Bill Moseley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Yesterday I was able to install Gnome2 by following the instructions at 
> http://www.hadess.net/idoru.php3

...

> 
> did a apt-get upgrade and then tried:

...

> Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies:
>   nautilus2: Depends: libnautilus2-2 (>= 2.0.0) but it is not going to be
> installed
>  Depends: librsvg2-2 (>= 2.0.0) but it is not installable
> E: Sorry, broken packages
> 
> What I did notice yesterday was nautilus was crashing often.
> 
> Any ideas?

You might try this:

apt-get install -t experimental nautilus2=2.0.0-1

This should install the previous version (which is what I'm at, and it
works fine).

HTH,

Dan

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Re: Ot c++ programming in linux

[Scott Henson]

On Sat, 2002-06-29 at 02:36, ben wrote:
> On Friday 28 June 2002 06:56 pm, Scott Henson wrote:
> > On Fri, 2002-06-28 at 21:51, Eric G. Miller wrote:
> > > On Fri, Jun 28, 2002 at 06:17:14PM -0700, faisal gillani wrote:
> > > > Well i am a newbie learning c++ these days we are
> > > > being thaught on turbo c 3.0 but as like other things
> > > > i want to work on c++ in linux .. so i installed gcc
> > > > on my linux box but i dont have any idea how to
> > > > install it for example i write a program as follows in
> > > > turbo c
> >
> > Install ajunta.  Its better than turbo c.  I use it all the time for my
> > engineering projects.
> 
> where's ajunta available? i've googled but found only a document reference to 
> it.

Sorry, my fault its anjuta.  
apt-get install anjuta
in either woody or sid.

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Where to find KDE docbook DTD

[Viktor Rosenfeld]

Hi there,

which Debian package provides the following DTD:



Thanks,
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PAM

[Martin Clarke]

recently whille messin around with stuff in my pam.d dir i screwed stuff
up...very stupidly i know...i dont have a backup copy of those config file
which i thought i did. So anyway to try and recover I used the technique
i saw int he pam docs packages...mv pam.d pam.d.orig and create and new
pam.d with one "other" file inside and use default setups for that..logins
worked ok but su was screwy and wouldnt work at all! so i set up an su and
now root can su to whoever without passwords. users have access to su as
members of wheel group but the actual su will not work:
eg su
i enter the correct password(i am SURE) it is
and i get a crazy error message like: authentication services cannot retrive
authenticaon info
if i enter the wrong passwd i just get an authenticaton failure message..any
ideas??
sample auth.log and config files below
cheers
martin
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Jun 29 15:27:48 IscArIoT PAM-warn[804]: service: su [on terminal: tty3]
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Jun 29 15:27:48 IscArIoT su[804]: pam_acct_mgmt: Authentication service
cannot retrieve authentication info.
---
OTHER:
auth required pam_unix_auth.so
auth required pam_warn.so
account  required pam_unix_acct.so
account  required pam_warn.so
password required pam_unix_passwd.so
password required pam_warn.so
session  required pam_unix_session.so
session  required pam_warn.so
---
SU:
auth sufficient pam_rootok.so
auth required pam_wheel.so
auth required pam_unix_auth.so audit
auth required pam_warn.so
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RE: api calls

[Sean 'Shaleh' Perry]

On 29-Jun-2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> need to find out  what are the  so called  API's under linux I need to 
> understand this  in simple terms  and how to access if that is posable
> 

API standards for "application programming interface".  It is the definition of
how two things talk to each other.  The X Window System has an API, GTK+ has an
API, glibc provides another.  It is a generic term.

We could help you better if you would more clearly state what problem you are
trying to solve.


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Re: DHCP client stopped getting responses from ATTBI server

[Ian D. Stewart]

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On Monday 24 June 2002 18:02, Alex Roitman wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I had my home system on a cable modem with AT&T Broadband
> as a provider for about a year. Everything worked perfectly
> well, until about a week ago they must have switched the
> DHCP server. Now my dhclient gets no DHCPOFFERS at all!!!
>
> I also happen to have a working WinNT installation on the
> same box. Mysteriously, it has no troubles connecting to
> DHCP server and obtaining a lease. Unfortunately, I don't
> know how to get more DHCP details from NT.

Hey Alex,

I've encountered the same problem with RoadRunner.  The way the RoadRunner 
tech explained it to me, when they make changes to the server, those changes 
are not being properly propigated.  Shutting down the cable modem, and then 
starting it back up after a minute or two fixes it.

Not sure how Windows works around this, or what a more elegant solution would 
be...


HTH,
Ian
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Re: dns setup with domain name

[DU]

On Mon, Jun 24, 2002 at 10:25:27PM +0100, Matthew Sackman wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 24, 2002 at 04:21:13AM -0400, Debian User wrote:
> > On Sun, Jun 23, 2002 at 09:06:11PM +0100, Matthew Sackman wrote:
> > > BIND doesn't care less whether you own the domain name or not. Just so
> > > long as it's not going to come across another DNS server that thinks
> > > someone else other than you owns it. For that reason it's a good idea
> > > (TM) to use an illegal domain name internally (i.e. without a valid
> > > extension, so not a .com .co.uk .info .biz etc etc. I just use 'namkas'
> > > here and bind really doesn't mind).
> > > 
> > > Matthew
> > 
> > I always liked to use .lan for the top level domain for reserve addressed 
> > networks. Then build whatever structure you need below that. I just setup a 
> > lan for a friend and the internal systems are in netgear.lan . He felt his 
> > FS108 switching hub deserved some credit.
> 
> Hmm. This is probably extreme and unnecessary paranoia, but you're
> giving out unnecessary info about the hardware. It's the same reason no
> one fills in 'H' records in DNS anymore (I think it's 'H' records...).
> 
> Probably silly levels of paranoia!
> 
> Matthew
> 
> -- 
> 
> Matthew Sackman
> Nottingham
> England

The netgear.lan was only for his lan. There is a DSL router, but it connects to
a linux firewall/gw/router. So nobody know what his DSL router is, which to a
determined hacker might be useful. The netgear is just an 8 port dumb/un-
managed switching hub.

We did go cheap and have his gw/router also do DNS for both the internal and
external domain, so people could query it and find out what 192.168.5.0
addresses he is using on his lan. But hey, he has to consider power, the cost
of extra boxes, space, and the fact that he has no special cooling setup for
his computers.

In my sauna I have 14 computer with 6 UPS, 3 switches,  and I usually keep
about 5 of the machines running at the same time, and its 78 degrees
in there and 73 degrees (fahrenheit) in the rest of the house.
If I'm actually in there with a monitor and/or TV on it can get to 82-84 easily.


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Help needed with qt3...

[D.J. Bolderman]

Hi all,

Recently I have installed kde3 from http://kde3.geniussystems.net/. Kde is 
working fine, but now i've got some problems compiling apps on my system 
(debian unstable). 

When I do a ./configure, it ends with the message "checking for Qt... 
configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.0.2) (library qt-mt) not found"

I was searching on google, and found a lot of people having this problem, but 
I haven't found a solution so far. My sytem has a /usr/lib/qt3 directory, but 
the only contents of that dir. are a plugins and a plugins-mt subdir. Other 
qt3 libs are in /usr/lib/. That dir. also holds different libqt-mt files:

libqt-mt.a
libqt-mt.so (link to libqt-mt.so.3.0.4)
libqt-mt.so.3 (link to libqt-mt.so.3.0.4)
libqt-mt.so.3.0 (link to libqt-mt.so.3.0.4)
libqt-mt.so.3.0.4

I guess that's my problem. Can anyone give me some help here ? do i need to 
set some system variables, or is there a way i can re-install qt3 the right 
way ?

Thanks for any help !!

Dick


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Re: Quicken under debian

[David P James]

Paul Scott,,, wrote:
> Neal Lippman wrote:
>
>> I am wondering if anyone could recommend a solution for
>> using Quicken on my debian woody system. Quicken is
>> essentially the ONLY windows application that I still
>> need, and thus is the only reason that my laptop still
>> has windows98 loaded on it.
>>
>> As far as I can tell, wine does not yet support
>> Quicken, nor does the Crossover platform that has
>> gotten a lot of press for its MSOffice support.
>>
>> I am not adverse to running VMWare if that's the best
>> way to accomplish this task (btw, since vmware is
>> proprietary, I assume there are no debs, but just the
>> tarball and rpms on their web site).
>>
>> I am a bit adverse to using Win4Lin, only because that
>> would involve using their patched kernel, and I like
>> using the standard kernels.
>>
> You don't need no stinkin' emulator!  :)  gnucash will
> read your Quicken files and you're free.
>

Except unfortunately gnucash mangles the concepts of
'categories' and 'accounts', which, to be honest, I really
do not like. On the flip side, guncash did detect some
mistakes that had gone uncorrected in my Quicken files for
years, so I went back and fixed them in Quicken. At this
point I'm still using Quicken and hence Windows 95. I'm
going to try an account-by-account import into kmymoney2
(mentionned in a recent Debian Weekly News) shortly. I tried
a whole import (as in gnucash) but that got really botched up.

Of course, what I would really like to see is Quicken ported
to Linux, even if I had to pay for it.

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Re: exim question

[Derrick 'dman' Hudson]

On Sat, Jun 29, 2002 at 11:50:00AM +0200, Johann Spies wrote:

| Exim is the mta on both machines.

| failed to open database lock file
| /var/spool/exim/db/wait-remote_smtp.lockfile: Permission denied
| (euid=8 egid=8)

Notice that exim is running as mail:mail at this time.  (and that's
not a fatal error, just a notice/warning)

| The contents of /var/spool/exim/db/ on spyker is:
| 
| -rw-r-1 root root0 Okt  2  2001 
wait-remote_smtp.lockfile
| -rw-r-1 root root 4096 Okt  2  2001 wait-remote_smtp
| -rw-r-1 root root0 Okt  2  2001 retry.lockfile
| -rw-r-1 root root 4096 Okt  2  2001 retry

And that only root can read and write the files.
 
| I have tried to solve the problem by removing
| /var/spool/exim/db/wait-remote_smtp.lockfile but that did not solve
| the problem.

Stop exim, remove all (4) of those files, and start exim again.  They
are just "hints" files anyways, aren't critical, and will be rebuilt
(with new data) if they are missing.

The lockfiles are just there for locking.  The corresponding files are
bsddb database files.  It could be that the version of bsddb changed
in the new exim package, so you would need to remove the old ones
anyways.  (I don't know, I build exim4 for myself now, but that did
happen to me -- a new version of bsddb with incompatible file formats)

FWIW here's how my system looks :

-rw-r-1 mail mail12288 Jun 28 12:36 retry
-rw-r-1 mail mail0 Mar 26 20:01 retry.lockfile
-rw-r-1 mail mail12288 Jun 14 02:05 wait-remote_smtp
-rw-r-1 mail mail0 Mar 26 20:03 
wait-remote_smtp.lockfile

HTH,
-D

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Re: Fresh install questions

[Rodney D. Myers]

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On 29-Jun-2002 Paul Johnson wrote:

Never attempt to send just before dropping of to sleep. ;-)

> On Fri, Jun 28, 2002 at 08:41:27PM -0700, Rodney D. Myers wrote:
>> 
> 
> That's a tough one.  Try putting the CD in?  8:o)


I finally got a spare machine installed with Debian Potato "stable"
22rev6, and I'm coming from the RedHat world, so I've got a few
questions.

1:  I have a PCI 3com network card installed, but evidently not found,
though when I do "modprobe 3c59x" it's mentioned in
/var/log/messages. How do I go about getting recognized on every boot?

2: When I boot, I go directly into the X version of the login prompt.
I knew on RH how to change this, but it's setup different than
Debian. Where do I look to make the change(s)?

3: When I installed the 3 CD set, I got numerous errors in the
process, but when I logged om after the install, I could not find the
log file. Where should the log file be located?

Thanks

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Re: Ot c++ programming in linux

[Derrick 'dman' Hudson]

On Fri, Jun 28, 2002 at 11:36:31PM -0700, ben wrote:
| On Friday 28 June 2002 06:56 pm, Scott Henson wrote:
| > On Fri, 2002-06-28 at 21:51, Eric G. Miller wrote:
| > > On Fri, Jun 28, 2002 at 06:17:14PM -0700, faisal gillani wrote:
| > > > Well i am a newbie learning c++ these days we are
| > > > being thaught on turbo c 3.0 but as like other things
| > > > i want to work on c++ in linux .. so i installed gcc
| > > > on my linux box but i dont have any idea how to
| > > > install it for example i write a program as follows in
| > > > turbo c
| >
| > Install ajunta.  Its better than turbo c.  I use it all the time for my
| > engineering projects.
| 
| where's ajunta available? i've googled but found only a document
| reference to it.

It's "anjuta".

http://anjuta.sourceforge.net/

Once, when I tried it, it seemed really immature.  (that was quite a
while ago)  I also wanted something that worked for other languages,
so I ended up learning vim more.  Now that I'm proficient in vim (and
some more shell commands, eg find) I wouldn't use anything else.  YMMV.

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Re: SELL Domain name "www.HitFuck.com"

[Mathias Gygax]

On Sat, Jun 29, 2002 at 02:31:49AM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 29, 2002 at 02:57:57AM -0400, DU wrote:
> > Now www.stopnfuck.com might have been a good choice.
> 
> Or fuckstop.com...

fuckofffuck.com

SCNR :)

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Re: Resizing partitions..

[Andrew Biggadike]

On Fri, 2002-06-28 at 22:01, Alex Malinovich wrote:
> parted is very safe. And it's actually quite easy to use. If you can use
> ftp (or any other pseudo-shell program) you'll be right at home in
> parted. And if you want to learn more about linux, using a Windows
> program such as PM won't help matters much will it? :)

>From GNU's parted webpage
(http://www.gnu.org/software/parted/parted.html) under Features: "For
ext2, ext3 and reiserfs: the start of the partition must stay fixed." 
This would prevent me from doing what I had intended.  Does this mean I
must use Partition Magic, or do you know of other Linux-side tools?  (I
did a quick look, but discovered nothing substantial)

Also, someone was telling me that if I wanted to resize the / partition
I would have to boot to another partition (say, a floppy) and perform
the operations while / was not mounted.  Does this sound accurate?

> Exactly. And, actually, if you roll your own kernel "The Debian Way",
> you won't even need to do that much. The package does it for you.
> 
> You don't have it so bad now since your Windows partition is FAT32, so
> you can at least write the bootsect.lnx to it from linux. I had an NTFS
> partition, so I had to boot into windows anytime I recompiled my kernel.
> I'll never be able to get that Windows startup sound out of my head. :)

Ouch, I can see why you switched.

In an earlier post you had mentioned how odd it was to have /boot
located where it was, and why - in that location - to have it at all. 
Those partitions were left from an earlier version of Red Hat that I was
playing around with some time ago (before I installed woody), and that
was its default/recommended disk setup.

Andrew


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Re: Completely OT: Perl progress bar/meter

[Ian D. Stewart]

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On Saturday 29 June 2002 05:21, Alex Malinovich wrote:
> I've been thinking about this for a while, and even though it's not
> really important, I would like to get it in. I've got a script which, on
> average, processes about 10,000 files each time it's run, taking a
> minute or two to finish. Since having no feedback is not an option, I
> opted to have a "File X of Y finished..." line printed after each file.
> While this gives the user feedback, it also gives him 10,000 lines of
> useless text on the terminal. Any ideas on how to re-write a line
> repeatedly and quickly in Perl? I'd prefer to do a percentage counter
> with, possibly, a fsck type progress bar. As far as I know Perl can't do
> screen refreshes, but perhaps there's a library for it out there
> somewhere? Any suggestions?

Have you looked at Term::ProgressBar 
(http://search.cpan.org/search?dist=Term-ProgressBar) ?


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Re: Completely OT: Perl progress bar/meter

[Colin Watson]

On Sat, Jun 29, 2002 at 04:21:21AM -0500, Alex Malinovich wrote:
> I've been thinking about this for a while, and even though it's not
> really important, I would like to get it in. I've got a script which, on
> average, processes about 10,000 files each time it's run, taking a
> minute or two to finish. Since having no feedback is not an option, I
> opted to have a "File X of Y finished..." line printed after each file.
> While this gives the user feedback, it also gives him 10,000 lines of
> useless text on the terminal. Any ideas on how to re-write a line
> repeatedly and quickly in Perl?

If you haven't yet printed the newline, then just print a carriage
return ("\r") and you'll go back to the start of the line. Be sure to
print enough spaces to completely overwrite the previous text if what
you're printing is shorter, and be sure to set the $| variable to 1 so
that text is output even when you haven't yet printed the "\n".

> As far as I know Perl can't do screen refreshes,

That's up to the terminal, and if you want a full-screen refresh you can
do that too. As long as the terminal has some ANSI capabilities (most
do), you can print "\e[H\e[J" to clear the screen, or just "\e[H" if you
simply want to move the cursor back to the home position.

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How to make my program a bootable lilo image?

[Tao Liu]

Hi,

I have a simple assembly program:

/* show.s */
begin:
movb $9,%ah
movb '*',%al
movb $0,%bh
movb $7,%bl
movw $10,%cx
int $0x10
jmp begin

I want to make it a bootable lilo image, so I tryed
$ gcc -c show.s
$ ld show.o -b binary -e 0 -o show.bin
then I add show.bin as a lilo image, but it can't be load and run.

How to make it a good lilo image?

Thanks,

Tao



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Re: Installing from ISO

[Christian Schoenebeck]

You can mount an ISO image on a Linux System with

mount -t iso9660 -o ro,loop=/dev/loop0 your.iso /cdrom

but of course that implies that you already have some Linux box where you can 
mount the ISO and you have somehow access from your new box to that Linux  
machine.

Maybe that helps

Cuse


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Re: Ot c++ programming in linux

[David Teague]

Hi Faisal

To learn C++ well, get a copy of a good C++ text. I like Savitch, Problem
Solving and Programming in C++ 4th edition from Addison Wesley. It will be
published in mid July. There is a 3rd edition available now, but the 4th
is better. I make no money off sales of this book. My connection to the
book is that I write supplements for which I am paid lump sum amounts, 
no residuals.

Your code, as has been pointed out here, is C, not C++, and conio.h is a
product for DOS/Windows command line i/o, but has been ported to Linux and
g++, but it is better not to use it at all.. Finally, the header file is
stdio.h, not studio.h.

There are other issues such as the iostream i/o that you should use in
preferece to the C stdio library for many reasons.

IMHO Emacs and g++ make the best development environment for any platform
to which these have been ported. Emacs requires a bit of work as the
commands tend not to be any more mnemonic than the keystroke equivalents
in any Windows IDE. If you use X Windows in Linux, then Xemacs has most of
the same facilities that any Windows IDE provides.

There are other IDEs for sale for Linux, and MoonShine, which is used g++,
is available for download. I do not have the URL. Use a search engine such
as Google.

If I can help you further, please write to me off line.

David Teague


On Fri, 28 Jun 2002, faisal gillani wrote:

> Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 18:17:14 -0700 (PDT)
> From: faisal gillani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Ot c++ programming in linux
> Resent-Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 21:18:12 -0400
> Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> 
> Well i am a newbie learning c++ these days we are
> being thaught on turbo c 3.0 but as like other things
> i want to work on c++ in linux .. so i installed gcc
> on my linux box but i dont have any idea how to
> install it for example i write a program as follows in
> turbo c
> 
> #include
> #include
> void main (void)
> {
> printf("hello world");
> }
> 
> 
> 
> how do i write the same program in gcc ?
> i have tried the same but it gives out error the
> #in... files not found 
> what can i do & how to compile this program ?
> 
> thanks
> faisal
> 
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Re: Flash Editor for Debian

[Paul Johnson]

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On Sat, Jun 29, 2002 at 01:50:37PM +0200, Christian Schoenebeck wrote:

> But I really miss something compareble to Flash for the open source community 
> and I wonder why nobody has started such a project yet.

Have you tried searching Freshmeat.net or Sorceforge?

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Re: Flash Editor for Debian

[Christian Schoenebeck]

> Hello,
> 
> I have to create some flash movie (or whatever they are called) at
> work.  I will be using Flash FX on windows (I have to), but I would
> like to play with it at home on my Debian box.  I've looked around,
> but can not seem to find any, but are there any Flash editors/creators
> for Debain?  Or even just Linux in general.

Flash player - yes, Flash creator - no, although Macromedia announced a Linux 
port a while ago, but who knows if that will really ever happen.

But I really miss something compareble to Flash for the open source community 
and I wonder why nobody has started such a project yet.


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re:gqview segmentation fault

[Shawn Lamson]

I decided to reinstall v. 0.9.0 and get those errors down for you if it
helps... here they are - let me know if anyone needs more info to help
or if no help is available - i had real trouble finding information on
google and the gqview page at sourceforge.


[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ gqview-0.9.0 
Wrong JPEG library version: library is 62, caller expects 61
/convert: Permission denied
gdk_imlib ERROR: Cannot load image: /home/slamson/desktop_20020623.jpg
All fallbacks failed.


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Re: Mirroring Debian

[Paul Johnson]

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On Sat, Jun 29, 2002 at 12:48:22PM +0200, Balazs Javor wrote:
> If I would want to create a local mirror of the complete
> Debian distributon (stable,testing and unstable) and keep it up to date,
> what's the best way to do this?
> 
> Also roughly how much space would I require for it?

Please read the webpage.
http://www.debian.org/mirror/

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Mirroring Debian

[Balazs Javor]

Hi,

If I would want to create a local mirror of the complete
Debian distributon (stable,testing and unstable) and keep it up to date,
what's the best way to do this?

Also roughly how much space would I require for it?

Many thanks for your help in advance!
best regards,
Balazs


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Re: stack and heap size documentation/replies

[Paul Scott,,,]

Drat!  I wish this listserv worked like all the others I use.  I keep 
sending the replies to the individuals instead of to the list.  I 
suppose some of you will tell me if I used a decent *nix email program I 
wouldn't have this problem. :)


Eric G. Miller wrote:


On Fri, Jun 28, 2002 at 05:57:36PM -0700, Paul Scott,,, wrote:

I have been searching for documentation on default stack and heap 
sizes with g++/gcc and how to change them if necessary.  I haven't 
had any luck so far.


I have been getting segmenatation faults possibly related to my use 
of the new operator. 


Your probably corrupting memory somewhere.  AFAIK, "new" should only
fail if you're totally out of memory (and then do so in a predictable
manner).  Segfaults are rarely due to programming errors in the
compiler and standard library. 


I wasn't assuming so.  I am new'ing some large buffers and I just want 
to know how far I can go.



Start by compiling with warnings turned up and debugging symbols turned
on...   


I have been using gdb.  I will turn up the warnings.

Thanks,

Paul





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Re: Quicken under debian

[Paul Scott,,,]

Neal Lippman wrote:

I am wondering if anyone could recommend a solution for using Quicken on my 
debian woody system. Quicken is essentially the ONLY windows application that 
I still need, and thus is the only reason that my laptop still has windows98 
loaded on it.


As far as I can tell, wine does not yet support Quicken, nor does the 
Crossover platform that has gotten a lot of press for its MSOffice support.


I am not adverse to running VMWare if that's the best way to accomplish this 
task (btw, since vmware is proprietary, I assume there are no debs, but just 
the tarball and rpms on their web site).


I am a bit adverse to using Win4Lin, only because that would involve using 
their patched kernel, and I like using the standard kernels.


You don't need no stinkin' emulator!  :)  gnucash will read your Quicken 
files and you're free.


apt-get install gnucash at least for woody and sid.

Paul Scott






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Re: multiple tape backup?

[Derek Gladding]

On Saturday 29 June 2002 02:59 am, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On Sat, 2002-06-29 at 02:54, Derek Gladding wrote:
> > On Friday 28 June 2002 07:40 pm, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > > On Thu, 2002-06-27 at 22:33, Derek Gladding wrote:
> > > > On Thursday 27 June 2002 08:25 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > > > Hello list,
> > > > >
> > > > > I am planing to backup the /home directory which is around
> > > > > 30GB in size with multiple DDS3 tape--each has 12GB. Is there
> > > > > any tool for easier multiple tape backup like this? I can
> > > > > switch the tape myself.
> > > >
> > > > Afbackup works well for me. (DDS3 tapes / ~120G backup set).
> > >
> > > Do you have a "stacker", i.e. autoloader?
> >
> > Nope, just a plain DDS3 drive. Afbackup spits the tape out when
> > it's done and if I don't give it a new one in time, it gets
> > impatient and emails me to ask for a new one.
> >
> > I think it's supposed to support autoloaders, but have never tried
> > it.
>
> If you can afford them, they sure are a dream: load the hopper and
> go home. cron kicks off the backup in the middle of the night...

No need, I work from home :) 

Apart from that, I use a 2xfull, 2x2xdiff pattern, switching between 
full sets when the diffs get bigger than a single tape, which doesn't 
happen often enough to cause me any great stress.

- Derek


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gqview -- segmentation fault

[Shawn Lamson]

Hey - anyone else having problems with gqview?  I have tried every
version back to 0.9.0 (which gives the most complete error messages)
and I seem to get a variety of errors including gdk_imlib errors...
when i run under root it will handle most .xpm and .png images, but not
if there is the slightest thing wrong with them, and it seg faults
immediately on jpegs.

The most descriptive error was from version 0.9.0 saying "jpeg lib 62
caller expects 61" or something like that - which i traced to my
/usr/local/lib/libjepg.so's being *so.62.0.0 and no 61's   i tried
creating links in the libdir name *so.6.1 and variants like that - i am
back on gqview v1.0.2 now - still just segfaulting on most everything.

any ideas?

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Re: multiple tape backup?

[Ron Johnson]

On Sat, 2002-06-29 at 02:54, Derek Gladding wrote:
> On Friday 28 June 2002 07:40 pm, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > On Thu, 2002-06-27 at 22:33, Derek Gladding wrote:
> > > On Thursday 27 June 2002 08:25 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > > Hello list,
> > > >
> > > > I am planing to backup the /home directory which is around 30GB
> > > > in size with multiple DDS3 tape--each has 12GB. Is there any tool
> > > > for easier multiple tape backup like this? I can switch the tape
> > > > myself.
> > >
> > > Afbackup works well for me. (DDS3 tapes / ~120G backup set).
> >
> > Do you have a "stacker", i.e. autoloader?
> 
> Nope, just a plain DDS3 drive. Afbackup spits the tape out when it's
> done and if I don't give it a new one in time, it gets impatient and
> emails me to ask for a new one.
> 
> I think it's supposed to support autoloaders, but have never tried
> it.

If you can afford them, they sure are a dream: load the hopper and
go home. cron kicks off the backup in the middle of the night...
 
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Installing from ISO

[Sergey A. Ovchar]

Hello ;-)
Can I install woody from iso-images. I haven't possibility to burn it on cd's. 
And if I can, how can I do that?
Thanks;-)


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exim question

[Johann Spies]

The mail on my home network worked well untill recently (maybe after
updating Woody on one machine).

My setup is as follows:
192.168.0.1 (spyker) is the gateway to the outside world through a
ppp-connection. My isp is adept.co.za.

192.168.0.2 (storm) is the other machine.  The user(s) on storm gets
mail from spyker using fetchmail.

Exim is the mta on both machines.

runq -d9 on storm produces i.a. the following line:

failed to open database lock file
/var/spool/exim/db/wait-remote_smtp.lockfile: Permission denied
(euid=8 egid=8)

The contents of /var/spool/exim/db/ on spyker is:

-rw-r-1 root root0 Okt  2  2001
 wait-remote_smtp.lockfile
-rw-r-1 root root 4096 Okt  2  2001
 wait-remote_smtp
-rw-r-1 root root0 Okt  2  2001 retry.lockfile
-rw-r-1 root root 4096 Okt  2  2001 retry

 
I have tried to solve the problem by removing
/var/spool/exim/db/wait-remote_smtp.lockfile but that did not solve
the problem.

I then did a chown mail.mail on all the files in /var/spool/exim/db/
but that did not make any difference.  I changed them back to
root.root afterwards.  BTW I do not understand why they should be
root.root if mail is the user for exim?

My exim.conf on spyker:
---
qualify_domain = spyker
qualify_recipient = localhost
local_domains = localhost:spyker:storm:spyker.alterit.co.za:alterit.co.za
local_domains_include_host = true
local_domains_include_host_literals = true
relay_domains = 
relay_domains_include_local_mx = true
never_users = root
host_accept_relay = localhost:storm
trusted_users = mail
smtp_verify = true
gecos_pattern = ^([^,:]*)
gecos_name = $1
smtp_accept_queue_per_connection = 500
freeze_tell_mailmaster = true
received_header_text = "Received: \
 ${if def:sender_rcvhost {from ${sender_rcvhost}\n\t}\
 {${if def:sender_ident {from ${sender_ident} }}\
 ${if def:sender_helo_name {(helo=${sender_helo_name})\n\t\
 by ${primary_hostname} \
 ${if def:received_protocol {with ${received_protocol}}} \
 (Exim ${version_number} #${compile_number} (Debian))\n\t\
 id ${message_id}\
 ${if def:received_for {\n\tfor <$received_for>}}"
end
local_delivery:
  driver = appendfile
  group = mail
  mode = 0660
  mode_fail_narrower = false
  envelope_to_add = true
  file = /var/spool/mail/${local_part}
address_pipe:
  driver = pipe
  return_output
address_file:
  driver = appendfile
address_directory:
  driver = appendfile
  no_from_hack
  prefix = ""
  suffix = ""
address_reply:
  driver = autoreply
procmail_pipe:
  driver = pipe
  command = "/usr/bin/procmail -d ${local_part}"
  return_path_add
  delivery_date_add
  envelope_to_add
  check_string = "From "
  escape_string = ">From "
  user = $local_part
  group = mail
remote_smtp:
  driver = smtp

end
real_local:
  prefix = real-
  driver = localuser
  transport = local_delivery
system_aliases:
  driver = aliasfile
  file_transport = address_file
  pipe_transport = address_pipe
  file = /etc/aliases
  search_type = lsearch
procmail:
  driver = localuser
  transport = procmail_pipe
  require_files = ${local_part}:+${home}:+${home}/.procmailrc:+/usr/bin/procmail
  no_verify
userforward:
  driver = forwardfile
  file_transport = address_file
  pipe_transport = address_pipe
  reply_transport = address_reply
  no_verify
  check_ancestor
  file = .forward
  modemask = 002
  filter
localuser:
  driver = localuser
  transport = local_delivery

end
smarthost:
  driver = domainlist
  transport = remote_smtp
  route_list = "alterit.co.za localhost byname; spyker localhost byname; storm 
byname; * smtp.adept.co.za bydns_a"
end
*  *   F,2h,15m; G,16h,2h,1.5; F,4d,8h

end
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{$value}fail} bcfrF
[EMAIL PROTECTED]${lookup{$1}lsearch{/etc/email-addresses}\
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--- 

I hope somebody can help me with this one.

Regards.
Johann
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Re: SELL Domain name "www.HitFuck.com"

[Paul Johnson]

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On Sat, Jun 29, 2002 at 02:57:57AM -0400, DU wrote:
> Now www.stopnfuck.com might have been a good choice.

Or fuckstop.com...

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Re: (no subject)

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On Sat, Jun 29, 2002 at 03:51:12AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> need to find out  what are the  so called  API's under linux I need to 
> understand 

It's just C and the Linux specific system calls are in manual chapters 2
and 3.  If you don't know what I'm talking about, learn how to use
Linux before you try to program on it.

> this  in simple terms  and how to access if that is posable

Programming is never AOL-simple.

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Completely OT: Perl progress bar/meter

[Alex Malinovich]

I've been thinking about this for a while, and even though it's not
really important, I would like to get it in. I've got a script which, on
average, processes about 10,000 files each time it's run, taking a
minute or two to finish. Since having no feedback is not an option, I
opted to have a "File X of Y finished..." line printed after each file.
While this gives the user feedback, it also gives him 10,000 lines of
useless text on the terminal. Any ideas on how to re-write a line
repeatedly and quickly in Perl? I'd prefer to do a percentage counter
with, possibly, a fsck type progress bar. As far as I know Perl can't do
screen refreshes, but perhaps there's a library for it out there
somewhere? Any suggestions?

-Alex


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Re: How do I change de IP addresses in woody

[Gary Turner]

On Fri, 28 Jun 2002 21:32:55 +0200, Erik Ljungström wrote:

>On Fri, 28 Jun 2002 13:14:17 -0600
>Romel Sandoval <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> I want to change the IP address of two woody machines to 192.168.1.x
>> and I changed the /etc/hosts file but I notice that the machines still
>> respond to their old IP adresses. Well I know this by using the ping
>> command.

Modify the "/etc/network/interfaces" file.  See man interfaces.
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Re: Erratic mouse in Debian Potota install

[Gary Turner]

On Fri, 28 Jun 2002 23:33:02 -0700, Elaine Tsiang wrote:

>The machine is Dell stock, which came with RedHat 6.2 pre-installed. It has 
>been running well for > 2 years. I decided to try Debian on it.
>
>The installation completed with an apparent successful XFree86 configuration.
>Upon reboot, X starts up fine, and the Debian splash screen is displayed with 
>some initial icons. But the mouse cursor freezes, appears and disappears, 
>moves irratically, and mouse clicks have random delayed effects. Needless to 
>say, it is not usable.
>
>The mouse is PS/2. I have the standard "Pointer" section:
>
>Protocal "PS/2"
>Device "/dev/psaux"
>
>I am running twm, xdm and gnome.
>
>I have re-run XF86Setup many times, each time, the mouse works fine within 
>XF86Setup. So maybe it's a problem with twm, etc.?
>
>Very late on a Friday, would appreciate some hint. Otherwise I'll have to 
>abandon Debian, and go to RedHat 7.2, which is running fine on another 
>machine with a PS/2.

Sounds like you have gpm running (lets mouse run in console).  That
conflicts with /dev/psaux.  Make the following configuration changes:

/etc/gpm.conf

#  This file is used by /etc/init.d/gpm and can be modified by
#  /usr/sbin/gpmconfig.
#
device=/dev/psaux
responsiveness=
repeat_type=raw# <--- acts as source for X's mouse
type=ps2
append=""

/etx/X11/XF86Config[-4]  depends on version

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Configured Mouse"
Driver  "mouse"
Option  "CorePointer"
Option  "Device""/dev/gpmdata"
#^
# reads the raw data from gpm without conflict

Option  "Protocol"  "PS/2"
Option  "Emulate3Buttons"   "true"
Option  "ZAxisMapping"  "4 5"
EndSection

If I haven't left anything out, that ought to do it. Do "/etc/init.d/gpm
restart" Then restart X.
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another Evil Empire (tm)  began its nefarious rise. -- gt
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api calls

[ZBenjudah]

need to find out  what are the  so called  API's under linux I need to 
understand this  in simple terms  and how to access if that is posable


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Re: multiple tape backup?

[Derek Gladding]

On Friday 28 June 2002 07:40 pm, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On Thu, 2002-06-27 at 22:33, Derek Gladding wrote:
> > On Thursday 27 June 2002 08:25 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > Hello list,
> > >
> > > I am planing to backup the /home directory which is around 30GB
> > > in size with multiple DDS3 tape--each has 12GB. Is there any tool
> > > for easier multiple tape backup like this? I can switch the tape
> > > myself.
> >
> > Afbackup works well for me. (DDS3 tapes / ~120G backup set).
>
> Do you have a "stacker", i.e. autoloader?

Nope, just a plain DDS3 drive. Afbackup spits the tape out when it's
done and if I don't give it a new one in time, it gets impatient and
emails me to ask for a new one.

I think it's supposed to support autoloaders, but have never tried
it.

- Derek


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(no subject)

[KW4ME2NO]

when I sign on to my computer it says it can not open my account it could be courupted.  due to user enviroments / all my Icons are about gone HELP  please

(no subject)

[ZBenjudah]

need to find out  what are the  so called  API's under linux I need to 
understand 
this  in simple terms  and how to access if that is posable


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Re: [SOLVED] How do I change de IP addresses in woody

[Romel Sandoval]

I have did it!

I edit the "etc/network/interfaces" file of course with the help of "man
interfaces" thanks Noah!

I have been trying with etherconf, even before I ask for help but didn't
work. Sorry I don't tell this before. Anyway thanks Mario.

Now apears that ping works for the two hosts correctly, sending from one
host to another. I think this means that the basic networking its ready.

And yes Eric, know how to change IP addresses helps me configure my
network, in a basic way of course.

thanks everybody :-)


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Re: SELL Domain name "www.HitFuck.com"

[DU]

On Fri, Jun 28, 2002 at 12:39:00PM +0200, martin f krafft wrote:
> also sprach Wang jin cheng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.06.28.1243 +0200]:
> > www.RussiaFuck.com, www.RussiaAdult.com" .
> 
> oh my, what a great SEX website www.stopfuck.com would be!
> 
> what a dork.
> 
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Re: Erratic mouse in Debian Potota install

[Patrick M]

Before starting X:
# /etc/init.d/gpm stop

PM, 22


On Fri, Jun 28, 2002 at 11:33:02PM -0700, Elaine Tsiang wrote:
> The machine is Dell stock, which came with RedHat 6.2 pre-installed. It has 
> been running well for > 2 years. I decided to try Debian on it.
> 
> The installation completed with an apparent successful XFree86 configuration.
> Upon reboot, X starts up fine, and the Debian splash screen is displayed with 
> some initial icons. But the mouse cursor freezes, appears and disappears, 
> moves irratically, and mouse clicks have random delayed effects. Needless to 
> say, it is not usable.
> 
> The mouse is PS/2. I have the standard "Pointer" section:
> 
> Protocal "PS/2"
> Device "/dev/psaux"
> 
> I am running twm, xdm and gnome.
> 
> I have re-run XF86Setup many times, each time, the mouse works fine within 
> XF86Setup. So maybe it's a problem with twm, etc.?
> 
> Very late on a Friday, would appreciate some hint. Otherwise I'll have to 
> abandon Debian, and go to RedHat 7.2, which is running fine on another 
> machine with a PS/2.
> 
> Elaine
> 
> 
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Re: Erratic mouse in Debian Potota install

[Olivier K]

Hello Elaine Tsiang ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) ;
On 29.06 (Saturday) at 08:33, you wrote :

> Protocal "PS/2"
^
Is this typo in your configuration file or only in your mail ?

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Re: x86 emulators

[ben]

On Friday 28 June 2002 08:17 pm, Paul Johnson wrote:
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> On Fri, Jun 28, 2002 at 06:22:35PM -0700, G. L. `Griz' Inabnit wrote:
> > > I am not adverse to running VMWare if that's the best way to accomplish
> > > this task (btw, since vmware is proprietary, I assume there are no
> > > debs, but just the tarball and rpms on their web site).
> > >
> > > I am a bit adverse to using Win4Lin, only because that would involve
> > > using their patched kernel, and I like using the standard kernels.
> >
> > This was EXACTLY why I purchased VMWare. Then I installed EVERY M$ o/s I
> > had, and followed that with the *nix's I wanted to play with. Last count
> > was 14 o/s running in VMWare under Debian. And yes Virginia, it IS worth
> > it!! :--)
>
> So what do folks think of plex86?
>

first i've heard of it. have you run it?

ben


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Re: Mail Server

[DU]

On Fri, Jun 28, 2002 at 04:50:29AM -0400, DU wrote:
> How do you setup a mailserver without becoming an open-relay?
> 
> On my local lan I use either mutt or evolution to read/send email. This has
> worked well for a long time. Remotely I mainly logged into my mailserver
> and ran mutt. This also has worked well for a long time.
> 
> However with the release of Mozilla 1.0 I have become addicted to its mail
> reader. I use imapd+sslwrap. To read email this is a great combo. However,
> remotely I can't send mail with this setup.
> 
> I understand smtp servers can bet setup to use logon/passwds to accept 
> outgoing
> email. Is this a common approach? What else could I do? Is this a 
> configuration
> of exim or is this something else entirely? Is PAM somehow plugged into exim?
> 
> Tips and Clues are greatly appreaciated. 
> 
> 
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Thanks for the pointer on the ASMTP in the archives.

I had tried using host_accept_relay before but it doesn't work. I would
get "mail server responded 5.7.1 Relaying denied" from mozilla.

I like having it authenticate better anyway, then I could get from anywhere,
without having to add IPs.

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Erratic mouse in Debian Potota install

[Elaine Tsiang]

The machine is Dell stock, which came with RedHat 6.2 pre-installed. It has 
been running well for > 2 years. I decided to try Debian on it.

The installation completed with an apparent successful XFree86 configuration.
Upon reboot, X starts up fine, and the Debian splash screen is displayed with 
some initial icons. But the mouse cursor freezes, appears and disappears, 
moves irratically, and mouse clicks have random delayed effects. Needless to 
say, it is not usable.

The mouse is PS/2. I have the standard "Pointer" section:

Protocal "PS/2"
Device "/dev/psaux"

I am running twm, xdm and gnome.

I have re-run XF86Setup many times, each time, the mouse works fine within 
XF86Setup. So maybe it's a problem with twm, etc.?

Very late on a Friday, would appreciate some hint. Otherwise I'll have to 
abandon Debian, and go to RedHat 7.2, which is running fine on another 
machine with a PS/2.

Elaine


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Re: Ot c++ programming in linux

[ben]

On Friday 28 June 2002 06:56 pm, Scott Henson wrote:
> On Fri, 2002-06-28 at 21:51, Eric G. Miller wrote:
> > On Fri, Jun 28, 2002 at 06:17:14PM -0700, faisal gillani wrote:
> > > Well i am a newbie learning c++ these days we are
> > > being thaught on turbo c 3.0 but as like other things
> > > i want to work on c++ in linux .. so i installed gcc
> > > on my linux box but i dont have any idea how to
> > > install it for example i write a program as follows in
> > > turbo c
>
> Install ajunta.  Its better than turbo c.  I use it all the time for my
> engineering projects.

where's ajunta available? i've googled but found only a document reference to 
it.

ben


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Re: Fresh install questions

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On Fri, Jun 28, 2002 at 08:41:27PM -0700, Rodney D. Myers wrote:
> 

That's a tough one.  Try putting the CD in?  8:o)

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