Re: Modem Ring Event

[Joey Hess]

Hugh Saunders wrote:
> I use a debian woody box as a dialup router for a small LAN it is not
> practical to leave the link up 24-7 but sometimes when i am not at
> home it would be usefull to get data from a machine that is at home.
> is there a simple way to configure it so that when the modem[internal
> pci] in the router detects two 'rings', it hangs up then dials up my
> normal ISP? [so i can access machines behind the router via the net
> from afar]
> 
> This would enable me to ring the router from my mobile in order to
> raise the link.

Yes the xringd package can do what you want.

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Re: How to pronounce "Debian"?

[Paul Johnson]

On Sun, Oct 20, 2002 at 10:57:37AM -0700, Brian Nelson wrote:
> > Actually, if we're getting really specific, the natives call
> > "or-eh-gun" home.
> 
> My point exactly.  This is why anyone actually from Oregon shouldn't be
> insulting others' pronunciations, because they can't even pronounce the
> name of their state correctly themselves.  :b

Actually, "or-eh-gun" is the correct pronounciation.  We're not the
only locale with a pronounciation different than you would think from
the spelling:  Quebec is pronounced "kay-beck," Couch Street in
Portland is "Kooch," Yachats, OR is pronounced "Ya-hots, or-eh-gun."

I'm sure it annoys the Quebecois that hardly anybody outside thier
province knows how to say thier name, similarly, Oregonians get
annoyed that people somehow forgot how to say our state's name from
school and don't understand why people outside of Oregon, Idaho,
Alaska, Washington, Yukon Territory, British Columbia, Alberta and
part of Montana have no grasp whatsoever on how to pronounce local
names, especially the name of our state.  It's not *that* hard.

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Re: Galeon Mail/News ?

[Oki DZ]

On Fri, Oct 18, 2002 at 10:21:31PM -0700, Karsten M. Self wrote:
> Evolution & Sylpheed are good GUI mail clients.  I use mutt, a
> console/curses client.

I use mutt too; and what email client can I use to complement mutt? I
mean, the one that can read mutt's mailboxes. I have tried Mozilla mail;
to heavy yet for my system. I like the one which understands GPG too
(displays encrypted messages just like mutt). Would Sylpheed do the job?

Thanks in advance,
Oki


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Re: gnome || kde

[Sandip P Deshmukh]

Bruce Park wrote:

Hello debian users,

Can anyone tell me which one of these two desktop is better? I've been 
using gnome eversince I've been using linux and I am told that KDE is a 
better desktop by people yet they can't give me a solid reason as to why 
it is better.

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this debate always rages here! i remember a long thread some time back.

in my view, its just a personal choice.

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Lighter window managers

[Russell]

Hi all,

I've been using fvwm2, and it has tons of configuration options,
which i find hard to master.

What are some good window managers that are even more light weight,
have less options (simpler to configure), and work well?

I'm into functionality more than flashness.

A large desktop that uses the screen as a window onto it would be useful.
A pop-up menu to select applications, and icons for applications would
be useful, but i don't mind editing the config file for this capability.

Is anything extra needed to run a gnome or kde application?


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Sorting processes by disk usage?

[Try KDE]

Hi,

Here is  the  situation: the hard drive LED is flashing every 2 seconds, 
I don't  which process is causing it, or if it's a kernel thread doing 
swapping or something. So how can I find out? "top" doesn't seem to 
answer that question. (Note that a disk intensive program is not 
neccesarrily CPU intensive).

Thanks,
-tk



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Re: A few questions about settings

[Oki DZ]

On Fri, Oct 18, 2002 at 10:23:52AM -0500, Wathen, Metherion wrote:
> 2.)  How do I find out what resolution mode X is running in (i.e. 640x480,
> 800x600, etc.)?

xwininfo, and then click on the root window (the desktop, that is).
 
> 3.) How do find out where programs are installed?
> I ran "dpkg --list" to find out what was on the system, I want to use these
> programs as my defaults.

whereis 
which 

Oki


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Re: woody vs. quota

[Jim Richardson]

"Michael Zedler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I'm trying to get quotas up and working.
> ...
> quota and quotarpc are started on startup. Unfortunately it tells me
> quotaon: can't find //quota.group on /dev/sda2 [/]
> quotaon: can't find //quota.user on /dev/sda2 [/]

See

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?archive=no&bug=161430

which has a discussion of the problem.  It seems to involve a conflict between
which quota file format the kernel wants and which format is created by
quotacheck with default arguments.

The bug report also gives a workaround, namely to use the command

quotacheck -acF vfsold

explicitly to create quota.user instead of aquota.user.

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Re: lousy browsers

[Shyamal Prasad]

"Jim" == Jim McCloskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Jim> Browsers are still so much the weak link in the Linux chain.

Hmmm...I've been using Mozilla 1.0 in Debian Woody for several months
now, and I've had no complaints at all (except for some funny stuff
installing java support, but it has always worked once I figured out
what I had to do). Mozilla is resource hungry, but my XP2000 processor
can handle it.

Now, at work, Mozilla 1.1 on Solaris 8 on a Sun Ultra 5 really sucks
big time. The X Server leaks memory, and mozilla is a huge resource
hog. No problems on linux though!

Cheers!
Shyamal


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dump

[Oki DZ]

Hi,

Does dump only work on ext2/3 filesystems?

DESCRIPTION
   Dump  examines  files on an ext2/3 filesystem and determines which
files need to be backed up.

What makes it so?

Thanks in advance,
Oki


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Why Cant I unsubscribe?

[Greg Ray]

I try to unsubscribe and it tells me I have the wrong name or some bs, what
do I have to do.


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Re: which half are you in?

[Russell]

dave mallery wrote:
> 
> hi list!
> 
> there's a saying that all people are in two groups:
> 
> those who have done an rm -R * in root
> and those who have not done it yet.
> 
> last evening, i joined the former group after six years of linux and a
> lifetime of computing...

It takes a bit of conditioning of your habits to avoid
these kinds of errors. I've never been locked out of my
car because i *know* that it would happen if i didn't
always lock the door with the key.

Likewise, when doing a recursive delete of directories
as root, always do "pwd" or "ls -al" if your path isn't
displayed in the prompt. Another way is to do the delete
from midnight commander where you can see everything.


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Re: Well (or poorly) hung video cards (was Re: lousy browsers)

[Joey Hess]

Karsten M. Self wrote:
> I've seen cards in various states:
> 
>   - Hung but fully resettable -- both X11 and console can be used again.
> 
>   - Hung, resettable in graphics mode only -- a X11 session can be
> started, but console mode is fuxnored.  Generally I'll start an X
> session to reboot the system (I use console periodically, it's a
> pain when it's not accessible).
> 
>   - Fully locked, hung, frozen.  Usually the entire system is locked at
> this point, no response to network, etc.  Hard boot.

Exactly, and the system described was clearly in one of the first two
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Re: Enterprise Kernel

[Herbert Xu]

On Mon, Oct 21, 2002 at 09:01:15AM +0800, Patrick Cheong Shu Yang wrote:
> 
> I had to re-compile the kernel to map the RAM above 1GB. Are there plans
> to include kernels compiled/built for the enterprise in mind...this
> would surely help in making Debian the choice of distribution when it
> comes to the enterprise...maybe calling it
> kernel-image-2.4.18-868-smp-enterprise or something...

The latest -smp kernel in unstable supports up to 4GB.
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Re: Webmail

[Johannes Berth]

* Paulo Henrique Baptista de Oliveira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>   I need to install a webmail in a Debian GNU/Linux box for use with:
>   - Qmail;
>   - IMAP;
>   - Maildir;
>   - Accounts in MySQL;
>   - Preferible in Perl.

It's written in C not in Perl, but you might want to have a look at
sqwebmail. Most webmail interfaces I've seen were written in PHP not in
Perl.


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date

[Oki DZ]

Hi,

okidz@okidz:~$ date
Mon Oct 21 09:25:54 WIT 2002

What is "WIT" short for...?
My tzconfig was set for "Asia/Jakarta".
Where can I find all the possible values for the time zones output by date
command?

Thanks in advance,
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Re: Enterprise Kernel

[nate]

Patrick Cheong Shu Yang said:
> Hi all,

> Thoughts anyone?

my most immediate thought is my belief that anyone who runs such
a server should be running a self compiled kernel anyways. every
system I deploy goes with a very custom kernel with many patches
depending on the kind of hardware and what kind of role it plays
on the network.

The exception of course is my test systems, where I usually don't
care what kernel is running, since they can be wiped out and
reinstalled on a moment's notice.

I've been running the same kernel on my systems for a year and
a half.. so it's not like I do updates on the kernel often.

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Re: Enterprise Kernel

[Patrick Cheong Shu Yang]

All,


That is exactly what I didbut that would not be what a SysAdm would
want...he/she would want to just select an 'enterprise' kernel from the
package list.

One has to bear in mind that not all SysAdm know how to re-compile a
kernel...and using kernel-package to do it...:-P

If the Debian community is to encourage the use of Debian as the
distribution choice for the enterprise, this may be one of the many ways
to help it along...


Patrick



On Mon, 2002-10-21 at 09:46, Edward Guldemond wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 21, 2002 at 09:01:15AM +0800, Patrick Cheong Shu Yang wrote:
> > 
> > I had to re-compile the kernel to map the RAM above 1GB. Are there plans
> > to include kernels compiled/built for the enterprise in mind...this
> > would surely help in making Debian the choice of distribution when it
> > comes to the enterprise...maybe calling it
> > kernel-image-2.4.18-868-smp-enterprise or something...
> > 
> > Thoughts anyone?
> > 
> 
> I don't know if this is planned, but with kernel-source-2.4.xx and
> kernel-package, you're good.  Just build the kernel on one machine, and
> install the resulting .deb on the rest.
> 
> Just my two cents,
> 
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fsck xfs and reiserfs partitions

[ThanhVu Nguyen]

Hello,

I have these partitions on xfs
/boot  :  50Mbs
/  :  5 gigs

and 
/home on reisefs ,


How do I schedule a fsck on everything on the next reboot?  Xfs and
reiserfs are pretty good, I never had problems with them but since I
have been using this sytem for so long, I think it's a good idea to
schedule a fsck ...  

TIA


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Re: Only left window key is META in emacs

[Hubert Chan]

> "Robert" == Robert Mosher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Robert> I was recently convinced that I should give emacs a try, only to
Robert> find that the left windows key is the only META key. This tends
Robert> to make for some rather uncomfortable key combinations.

You will probably need to use xmodmap and/or xkeycaps.  xkeycaps is a
GUI which creates a file for xmodmap to use.  xmodmap allows you to
remap keys.

Robert> What do I need to do to get both window keys working as a META
Robert> key, or switch the META key to both alt keys , as the right META
Robert> key allows me to type "å" and "ß" (even though I don't think
Robert> I'll ever need these two characters).

Your right Windows key is probably mapped to the compose key.

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ATI Radeon 7500 / X4.1.0 - need help!

[Neal Lippman]

I just got an ATI Radeon 7500 card with dual outputs (DVI-I and VGA). My
search of the Xfree86 site, various newgroups, etc, turns up conflicting
information regarding the status of this card.

The only driver referenced on the XFree site is the ATI site, which does
not list any radeon cards as supported. My install (Woody) does include
a radeon_drv.o module (as well as the ati_drv.o module) in the X drivers
tree, but I cannot find a reference to it on the XFree site.

Any info on the current support state of this card, and which driver is
correct appreciated. If anyone has a sample XFConfig-4 file that
supports this card, that would be appreciate as well. Finally, I would
like to use the DVI-I port, and maybe dual-head a second VGA monitor off
of it as well - but maybe that's asking for too much.

Thanks in advance.
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Re: Debian Gamers/Developers

[Tom Cook]

On  0, Edward Guldemond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 18, 2002 at 06:17:55PM -0400, Bijan Soleymani wrote:
> > Benedict Verheyen wrote:
> > 
> > >>On a sidenote: java is not bad for such type of games too with the added
> > >>advantage of being crossplatform. Also, a lot of games already exist with
> > >>available source code.
> > >>A while back i looked at game programming and studied it a bit. In java
> > >>the basics that go for c++ game programming still are valid in java.
> > >>For instance the need for double buffering, drawing in a memory screen
> > >>dump before copying it to the screen to get faster updating and less
> > >>flickering to name just one thing.
> > >>
> > Java really is a poor choice for Debian as the implementations of Java
> > by Sun and Ibm are proprietary and aren't included in Debian.
> 
> What about Kaffe?  I haven't used it, but from what I understand, AWT is
> there.  Not much Swing though.

Ugh, no, isn't that still a 1.1 virtual machine?  The wheel has been
invented since then...

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Re: Changing the pin priority of of local repository of debs

[Hubert Chan]

> "Charles" == Charles de Miramon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

[...]

Charles> How do you create an 'origin' for the /root/deb repository ?
Charles> His there any other way to tell /etc/apt/preferences/ to take
Charles> into consideration the local repository ?

You can try using the release label instead.  Just look at one of the
Release files from some repository, and make one for your local.  The
format seems to be pretty simple.

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Re: A little daemon

[Tom Cook]

On  0, Michael Heironimus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 17, 2002 at 12:12:24PM +0200, Raffaele Sandrini wrote:
> > I need to have a little daemon wich runs as root and receaves commands wich
> > it executes and then 
> > sends back the reult code of the commands. It should be very simple - no
> > fancy stuff. 
> 
> I think perl might be overkill for this, unless you want to use it as a
> project for learning perl sockets. You can do this with ssh or rsh
> easily enough. rsh requires a ~/.rhosts entry, ssh requires either
> entering a password or using RSA/DSA authentication.
> 
> If you give ssh a command to run, ssh will return the exit code of the
> remote command (at least with my OpenSSH 3.4p1 install). With rsh you'll
> have to add a "; echo $?" to the remote command and read the value from
> stdout.

Come now, rsh is surely almost as bad as what the OP proposed...

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Re: Enterprise Kernel

[Edward Guldemond]

On Mon, Oct 21, 2002 at 09:01:15AM +0800, Patrick Cheong Shu Yang wrote:
> 
> I had to re-compile the kernel to map the RAM above 1GB. Are there plans
> to include kernels compiled/built for the enterprise in mind...this
> would surely help in making Debian the choice of distribution when it
> comes to the enterprise...maybe calling it
> kernel-image-2.4.18-868-smp-enterprise or something...
> 
> Thoughts anyone?
> 

I don't know if this is planned, but with kernel-source-2.4.xx and
kernel-package, you're good.  Just build the kernel on one machine, and
install the resulting .deb on the rest.

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Re: [OT] literate programming

[Hubert Chan]

> "Carlos" == Carlos A P Gomes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Carlos> I've been looking for a way to improve the quality of my code,
Carlos> making it more readable and understandable and easier to mantain
Carlos> embeding in it some documentation. I think the answer is
Carlos> literate programming and I'd like to know if anybody uses it in
Carlos> gnu environment to produce source and documentation following
Carlos> the gnu standards. It seems that there is no web software (cweb,
Carlos> noweb) that produces texinfo or docbook output. Is there a way
Carlos> to accomplish this task?

A little while back, I was looking through some XML-based literate
programming systems.  None of them looked like they quite matched my
specs, but then, I can get really picky, and DocBook wasn't a priority
for me.  One of the projects that looked pretty promising, and I plan on
taking a look at it when DocBook becomes more important, is xmltangle
.  It is designed (or at least
intended) to be able to work with any XML-based document language, so it
should fit in with DocBook quite well.

Another system was DBLP (DocBook-based Literate Programming)
, which
as you can probably tell by the name, is built on top of DocBook.  I
don't remember well, but I think I had some troubles with the XML
version of DocBook and this package (or maybe I was just having troubles
with the XML version of DocBook).

Beware of treating LP as a magic bullet, though.  It will not
automatically make your documentation better, and it takes quite a bit
of getting used to.  It is quite a different way of thinking about
programming, and it can be pretty frustrating for a while.

I'm used to "hacking", which LP doesn't really allow you to do (at least
if you do it properly).  So some projects (smaller ones, where I want to
get things out quickly), I just hack away at, while others (larger ones,
where proper design is more important), I use LP.  LP can also make
tedious programming tasks more tedious too, if you aren't careful.  (I
found when I was trying out DBLP, that DocBook also made things more
tedious.  I guess you need to use a really good XML/SGML editor.)

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Re: [OT] literate programming

[Bruce Sass]

On Sun, 20 Oct 2002, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote:
> On Sunday 20 October 2002 13:36, Bruce Sass wrote:
> >
> > Whether LyX:File->Build-Program generates a file set that adheres to
> > GNU standards is something you would have to check for as the last
> > part of the build procedure.
>
>  please oh please just don't format your code according to GNU
> standards.  Brance at beginning of line, hanging brace on line above fine.
> BUt the brace does not belong half indented.  Ick
> 

Ya, it should be fully indented {
like
this
}

;)


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removal of Gnome2 not working

[Nicolaus Kedegren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]

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Hi Everybody,

First off, let me say that I thouroughly enjoy reading this list every 
evening. And I will also take the opportunity to introduce myself properly:
My Name is Nicolaus, and I am a dabbler in many things, but master of very 
few, or none. 
My latest undertaking is to use Debian, and abstain from commercial software.
This latest undertaking is not entirely without problems.
My particular problem has to do with the removal of gnome2 components.As you 
can see from the printout below, apt-get remove gnome2 has no apparent 
success.
I end up with a few problems.

In short:
Removing file-roller2 ...
/var/lib/dpkg/info/file-roller2.postrm: scrollkeeper-update: command not found
dpkg: error processing file-roller2 (--remove):
 subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 127
is repeated for a few packages.

the final mesage  get is:
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
and in all honesty, I have never seen this before, and my question would be 
the following:
Why does this happen, and what can I do to take care of this issue?

Oh, and one last thing, this problem also prevents me from installing ANY new 
packages on my system.

Thank you all very much.

/Nicolaus (aka Panicman)

nicke:/home/nicke# apt-get remove gnome2
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
Package gnome2 is not installed, so not removed
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  file-roller2 gnome-applets2 gnome-panel-data2 gnome-terminal 
gnome2-user-guide
0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 5 to remove and 0  not upgraded.
7 packages not fully installed or removed.
Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 14.7MB will be freed.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y
(Reading database ... 57871 files and directories currently installed.)
Removing file-roller2 ...
/var/lib/dpkg/info/file-roller2.postrm: scrollkeeper-update: command not found
dpkg: error processing file-roller2 (--remove):
 subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 127
Removing gnome-applets2 ...
/var/lib/dpkg/info/gnome-applets2.postrm: scrollkeeper-update: command not 
found
dpkg: error processing gnome-applets2 (--remove):
 subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 127
Removing gnome-panel-data2 ...
/var/lib/dpkg/info/gnome-panel-data2.postrm: scrollkeeper-update: command not 
found
dpkg: error processing gnome-panel-data2 (--remove):
 subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 127
Removing gnome-terminal ...
/var/lib/dpkg/info/gnome-terminal.postrm: scrollkeeper-update: command not 
found
dpkg: error processing gnome-terminal (--remove):
 subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 127
Removing gnome2-user-guide ...
/var/lib/dpkg/info/gnome2-user-guide.postrm: scrollkeeper-update: command not 
found
dpkg: error processing gnome2-user-guide (--remove):
 subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 127
Errors were encountered while processing:
 file-roller2
 gnome-applets2
 gnome-panel-data2
 gnome-terminal
 gnome2-user-guide
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
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Re: Preview Latex with multiple input files

[Neilen]

Hi Faheem

On Mon, 2002-10-21 at 01:48, Faheem Mitha wrote:
> On 19 Oct 2002 21:44:22 +0200, Neilen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi.
> > 
> > I'm using preview-latex, and xemacs from sid, and I just recently split
> > the document I'm using into multiple files.  I'm using \include to pull
> > al the file together from my master document.
> > 
> > Preview-latex does, however, not seem to be quite aware of the multiple
> > files.  If I to a preview-document command in one of the non-master
> > files, it re-does the previews for the master file, but not the others. 
> > If I do a preview-buffer command in a non-master file, it generates
> > previews, but the section numbers, etc. is wrong.
> > 
> > Is there any way I can get this to work correctly?  Its not really too
> > serious, since I like preview-latex mostly for equations, but it would
> > be nice to have the section numbers correct...
> 
> Well, preview-latex uses auctex (which you must be running) to figure
> out such things. Do you have something like 
> 
> %%% Local Variables: 
> %%% mode: latex
> %%% TeX-master: "thesis"
> %%% End: 
> 
> at the bottom of your files? If not, you need to add it, to tell
> auctex what the master file for a given file is. Note that you should
> not add the .tex prefix. My master file here is thesis.tex.
Yes, I do, but it seems that the problem I have is related.  I, for some
reason, called my maste file thesis.ltx, instead of .tex, so it put 
%%% TeX-master: "thesis.ltx" in.  This did not seem to bother auctex
when I did C-c C-c to compile the document.  It did, for some reason,
seem to futz up preview-latex.  Seems to work OK since I renamed my main
file to have a .tex extension, though.  Do you thing I should report
this as bug?

Thanks
Neilen

> 
> For further details see the auctex documentation. Incidentally, I
> would expect you to have the same problem with latexing in this
> case. Ie. if you are viewing a latex file which is not the master
> file, then if you do C-c C-c, it will look to what the master file is
> to figure out what to compile, and will not work unless the above
> lines are there.
> 
> Incidentally, I run
> 
> `C-c C-p C-d' `preview-document' LaTeX/Preview/Document
> Run preview on the present document.
> 
> to get sections right. It needs to scan the entire document. I'm not
> sure if preview-buffer would work, because I don't use it.
> 
> If you have things set up in this way but it is still not working for
> you, then I don't know what the problem is, because a similar setup
> works fine for me here, tracking Sarge, and running GNU emacs 21.2
> with preview-latex 0.7.3-2 and auctex 11.11-2.
> 
> For expert help you should contact the preview-latex developers at
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] But hopefully the above
> will solve your immediate problem.
> 
> Faheem.
> 
> 
> 
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Enterprise Kernel

[Patrick Cheong Shu Yang]

Hi all,

It's been awhile since I last wrote to the list. Anyway, let's get down
to it...


I work at a securities firm (securities as in stock market). Most, if
not all, of our backoffice systems run on Linux (some M$, Solaris and
HP-UX). The majority of the Linux installs are RH 7.x whilst the
remaining are Debian :-). As most of the machines installed are
enterprise-class boxes i.e. 4 Xeon CPUS, 4GB RAM, >72GB HDD, Gigabit
NICs, etc., the default kernels shipped in Potato/Woody may not be built
to meet the needs of these machines. E.g. The default kernels shipped
were not compiled to map RAM above 1GBas I recently discovered when
I ran top and free on one machine with 4 Xeons, 4.5GB RAM and 36.4GB
mirrored hardisks. 

I had to re-compile the kernel to map the RAM above 1GB. Are there plans
to include kernels compiled/built for the enterprise in mind...this
would surely help in making Debian the choice of distribution when it
comes to the enterprise...maybe calling it
kernel-image-2.4.18-868-smp-enterprise or something...

Thoughts anyone?


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Re: exim and ...@xemacs.org

[Alan Chandler]

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On Monday 21 October 2002 12:30 am, Gerard Robin wrote:
> Hello,
> I send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], (with mutt or xemacs)
>

Are you sure that the directors in exim.conf is sending this to the correct 
transport?  

what does

exim -bt [EMAIL PROTECTED]

produce on standard output.  This is what happens when I do it - it shows 
which router and director is being selected - showing being passed on to my 
isp to deliver it.

roo:/home/alan# exim -bt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  deliver to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  router = smarthost, transport = remote_smtp
  host smtp.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.53.60]


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Re: Backup Script

[Kevin Coyner]

On Sat, Oct 19, 2002 at 02:28:55AM -0700, Debian User wrote..

> Would anyone happen to know of a ready made backup (tar) script for a 
> debian box, something that I could tell to backup to another drive, and 
> make full copies with incremental updates throughout the week.  Would be 
> nice to have it report to a file too.  I have messed around with using 
> tar, but don't know enough to make a nice backup script yet, maybe 
> someone already has one made up they could hand out.  Don't want an 
> excessive script, just something that gets to the point.


Also check out:

http://www.linux-backup.net/app.gwif.html

HTH.

Kevin

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Re: OT: Recurring Event library?

[Andrew Perrin]

This is not a complete solution, but the Date::Manip module in perl has
some of this in it - you can get, for example, "today - four weeks".

ap

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On Sun, 20 Oct 2002, Josh Rehman wrote:

> This is certainly off topic, but I don't really know where else to turn.
> 
> Is there an open source library, perhaps in Perl or Java, that supports
> the representation and manipulation of date recurrence patterns? We are
> looking to describe patterns like "every Thursday" or "every Tue-Thurs"
> or even "on the first Monday of February". Ideally such a library would
> provide us with a variety of views, including natural language. Anyone
> who has used a PIM knows the thing I am speaking of (Evolution, Outlook,
> etc).
> 
> The brute force approach for this problem is straight-forward and would
> not require a third party library. However, we are looking for an
> efficient implementation that can tell us, for example, whether or not a
> given date satisfies a given pattern. (The brute force approach expands
> the pattern and checks each element for equality with a given date: good
> for patterns that describe small sets, bad for ones that describe larger
> sets).
> 
> Thanks for helping,
> Josh Rehman
> 
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Re: More probs installing packages

[Jerome Acks Jr]

On Sun, Oct 20, 2002 at 09:35:39PM +0100, Paul Lewis wrote:
> The second source package has failed during ./configure when trying to 
> find gnomeconf.sh. I am using the Gnome desktop so I cannot really tell 
> why - apart from the fact that gnomeconf.sh does not exist.

There is a /usr/lib/gnomeConf.sh in libgnome-dev, but I don't see a
gnomeconf.sh in any package.

> 
> Secondly prompted by a thread on this list I downloaded alien and tried 
> to make some .debs, it all seemed to go very well and sure enough I 
> ended up with .deb packages. The thing is I can't seem to work out how 
> to install them. I have tried apt-get install  which 
> does not work.
> 

# dpkg -i 

> So anyone care to reveal what I am doing wrong?
> 
> 

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Re: How to pronounce "Debian"?

[Kent West]

Eric G. Miller wrote:


On Sun, Oct 20, 2002 at 11:48:41PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
 

On Sun, Oct 20, 2002 at 11:32:31AM -0700, Eric G. Miller wrote:
   

Then you've got the people from Mass. that think Worcester is
pronounced "woo-ster" instead of "wur-ses-ter"! Clearly, that place
name has three syllables.
 

The canonical pronunciation of the *original* Worcester is "woo-ster",
so there. :)
   


Well, I sleep better at night know the folks in Ohio got the spelling of
Wooster right ;)

 

Woosters and chickens and wabbits; every Ohio farm needs some.





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Re: Webmail

[Steve Waterman]

One of the standards for qmail and imap:

http://inter7.com/sqwebmail/


On 20 October 2002 15:20, Paulo Henrique Baptista de Oliveira wrote:
> Hi all,
>   I need to install a webmail in a Debian GNU/Linux box for use with:
>   - Qmail;
>   - IMAP;
>   - Maildir;
>   - Accounts in MySQL;
>   - Preferible in Perl.
>   Anyone knows a webmail of this type?
>   TIA,Paulo Henrique


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Re: Woody modules parameters

[Paul Lewis]

Thanks that did it.

On 2002.10.20 02:37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Not sure but I believe you should verify that /etc/modutils/sb has
the correct entries and then run update-modules.





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After an upgrade Java doesnt work anymore

[Pac]

I've just upgraded my binaries

and now when I run ANT or Java I've got this error message

Error occurred during initialization of VM
Unable to load native library: /home/pac/jdk1.3.1_02/jre/lib/i386/libjava.so: symbol 
__libc_wait, version GLIBC_2.0 not defined in file libc.so.6 with   
+link time reference


How can I fix it ?

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Re: gnome || kde

[Jon-o Addleman]

On Sat, Oct 19, 2002 at 08:09:57PM -0400, Bruce Park spake thusly:
> Hello debian users,
> 
> Can anyone tell me which one of these two desktop is better? I've been 
> using gnome eversince I've been using linux and I am told that KDE is a 
> better desktop by people yet they can't give me a solid reason as to why it 
> is better.

For me, one choice is vastly better than the other: Use Neither!

Both are kinda bloated and cluttered, fill up the screen with useless
things and slow the computer down, and I found I didn't really get much
of anything out of it. I wouldn't bother installing either of them
(except maybe to give it a try...) unless you're sure you want it. For
many people, they're just not worth the hassle.

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Re: Problem with installation media

[vanillicat]

On Sun, Oct 20, 2002 at 10:06:42AM -0500, Robert Ames wrote:
> Hello,
> I downloaded the stable release of Debian (Woody) via jigdo. I downloaded all 7 iso 
>images. Each time, it reported that the checksums were correct.
> 
> When I went to install, I got the message from CD 1 that the file 
>/instmnt/pool/main/m/modconf/modconf_0.2.43_all.deb was corrupt. In case the download 
>had an issue, I re-downloaded the iso image and re-burned it. I got the same message. 
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> Thanks,
> Robert Ames

It's a long shot, but did you happen to download from the same mirror
both times?  You asked for *any* ideas :)


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Re: disabling ide-scsi

[Cam Ellison]

* Jason Pepas ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > Interesting.  What is in /lib/modules//drivers/scsi?
> >
> > Cam
> 
> (pts/0)jason@marsala:/lib/modules/2.4.18-bf2.4-xfs/kernel/drivers/scsi$ ls
> AM53C974.o  cpqfc.o  gdth.o  pci2220i.o   sg.o tmscsim.o
> a100u2w.o   dtc.oimm.o   ppa.osim710.o u14-34f.o
> advansys.o  eata.o   in2000.opsi240i.ost.o ultrastor.o
> aha152x.o   eata_dma.o   initio.oqlogicfas.o  sym53c416.o  wd7000.o
> aha1542.o   eata_pio.o   megaraid.o  qlogicfc.o   sym53c8xx.o
> aha1740.o   fdomain.oosst.o  qlogicisp.o  sym53c8xx_2
> atp870u.o   g_NCR5380.o  pci2000.o   seagate.ot128.o
> 
Those look mostly like low-level drivers.

I have ide-scsi set up as modules, and so my ~/scsi directory is thus:

ide-scsi.o  scsi_mod.o  sg.o  sr_mod.o  sym53c8xx.o

> 
> however,
> 
> (pts/0)jason@marsala:/lib/modules/2.4.18-bf2.4-xfs/kernel/drivers/ide$ ls
> ide-cd.o  ide-floppy.o  ide-tape.o
> 
> ide-cd appears to be a module, rather than being built into the kernel.  That 
> explains the "BAD OPTION" errors I was getting when I was trying to pass 
> ide-cd kernel parameters using lilo's append option.
> 
> perhaps the fact that ide-cd is a module, and is not loaded, is significant.
> 
I think that would be the case. 
 
My first choice would be to rebuild the kernel, and use modules
instead of putting all that into the kernel.  I have the following in
/etc/modules.conf, because I use modules for ide-scsi: 

options ide-cd ignore=hdc
options ide-cd ignore=hdd
alias scd0 sr_mod
pre-install sg modprobe ide-scsi
pre-install sr_mod modprobe ide-scsi
pre-install ide-scsi modprobe ide-cd

I don't know enough about this to be sure whether an options command
would block the kernel from setting your zip drive up as scsi, but you
might see if any of those low-level drivers corresponds to the drives
you don't want seized, and rmmod it.  That may break the connection.  

Good luck.

Cam

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Problem with installation media

[Robert Ames]

Hello,
I downloaded the stable release of Debian (Woody) via jigdo. I downloaded all 7 iso 
images. Each time, it reported that the checksums were correct.

When I went to install, I got the message from CD 1 that the file 
/instmnt/pool/main/m/modconf/modconf_0.2.43_all.deb was corrupt. In case the download 
had an issue, I re-downloaded the iso image and re-burned it. I got the same message. 

Any ideas?

Thanks,
Robert Ames



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Where are my crontabs?

[Daniel Fabian]

Hi List,

I used to run a small all-purpose server with a suse distro. A week ago
the harddisk crashed so I set up a whole new system with debian. I have
almost all services I used to run working on debian, but some users on
the old system had cronjobs installed, and I just can't seem to find the
files where the cronjobs where stored. The system wide cronjobs are in
/etc/crontab, but where are the user specific cron jobs? I don't know
where to look on the backup tape.

Thanks,
Daniel



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Re: dpkg and circular dependencies

[Colin Watson]

On Sun, Oct 20, 2002 at 09:41:38AM -0500, Charles Blair wrote:
>In the "unstable" distribution, libc6 and libdb1-compat depend
> on each other.

Necessarily so, yes.

> Is there any way to install them using dpkg?

dpkg -i libc6_2.3.1-1_i386.deb libdb1-compat_2.1.3-7_i386.deb

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dpkg and circular dependencies

[Charles Blair]

   In the "unstable" distribution, libc6 and libdb1-compat depend
on each other.  Is there any way to install them using dpkg?


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