Re: [OT?] sleep()-problem in perl
Thanks, Colin.
This example shows that sitting down to the computer, knowing not much more
than how to
'print "Hello World\n";'
and start hacking with a book ("Programming Perl") in your hand is not the
best approach to learn programming. One misses by 100% chance such easy, yet
important things like the $| variable. Nice to know that there are the
"local Perl gurus" (well, not local, more international ;) ) one can ask...
I'm sure I will be coming back in not too far future.
joerg
> > Could someone tell me why this works:
> >
> > #!/usr/bin/perl -w
> > for ($i=0;$i<=10;$i++){
> > print "sleeping...\n";
> > sleep 1;
> > }
> >
> > and this one does not:
> >
> > #!/usr/bin/perl -w
> > for ($i=0;$i<=10;$i++){
> > print "sleeping...";
> > sleep 1;
> > }
>
> Standard output is usually line buffered when printing to a terminal, so
> your output may not appear until you print a newline. Set $| = 1 if you
> want to change this, and see perlvar(1).
>
> Cheers,
>
> --
> Colin Watson [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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Re: Re: exim, delivery to /home/user instead of /var/mail/user
Shyamal Prasad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Make sure your pop lines have a "is 'userx' here" line to get the mail >to the right users. It does have such a line. Yet it puts all mail in /var/spool/exim/input. When you are fetching mail for several users, that's not a good approach. >Don't do this. There is no need to. Leave exim configured the way >Debian expects things to be (mail in /var/spool/main/...) See comments above. If you are fetching mail for all users then there is a need to split mail into various users directories. I think it's possible to do this and then if the users has a procmail, let that one sort the messages in to the correct subdirectories. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: repost - printing - help please
On Tue, 2002-11-12 at 01:28, Sandip P Deshmukh wrote: > > try to print something? > > echo "test" | lpr > > does nothing! Ummm... Should Work (TM). > > > > failing that did you configure magicfilter? or your printcap file? I > > used /sbin/magicfilterconfig and my printer worked like magic(oh no a > > pun!!!). > > sure did that. my /etc/printcap file now looks okay. If your printcap is setup correctly, I dont know. Are you sure you moved the new one into place? Your using the right port? /dev/lp0 (if on the parralel port). Have the correct kernel modules loaded? Is it using the proper driver? Im reading from the driver description that it is like a winmodem in the fact that it is a proprietary protocol. But linuxprinting.org says it works perfectly. Im not sure. Im reading some stuff there. Checkout: http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_driver.cgi?driver=pnm2ppa http://sourceforge.net/projects/pnm2ppa/ Other than that, its past my bed time and I have class too early tomarrow morning. If you cant get it with this stuff send me a private email tomarrow and we will see what we can do. -Scott Henson -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: true-type and wine
> do> Has anybody written a Howto or tutorial on setting up the truetype > do> fonts in Debian woody for wine. If not can somebody tell me which > do> packages I should apt-get install? > > Do you have TrueType fonts set up for other apps? No ... I am reading various howto's but they are all for RH or others not Debian. In addition to wine and my windoze games I need truetype in Abiword and The Gimp -- Douglas Orchard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User # 206698 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: repost - printing - help please
Sandip P Deshmukh wrote: On Tue, Nov 12, 2002 at 01:08:17AM -0500, Scott Henson wrote: On Tue, 2002-11-12 at 00:54, Sandip P Deshmukh wrote: On Tue, Nov 12, 2002 at 12:28:38AM -0500, Scott Henson wrote: On Mon, 2002-11-11 at 23:44, Sandip P Deshmukh wrote: hp deskjet 710c printer is connected to it on lpt1 (i am using windows nomenclature) Just a general guess, but: apt-get install magicfilter pnm2ppa did that. now, although i have lpr installed, i do not have lpr entry in /etc/init.d! I dont either. I have an entry for lpd in init.d what to do now? try to print something? echo "test" | lpr does nothing! failing that did you configure magicfilter? or your printcap file? I used /sbin/magicfilterconfig and my printer worked like magic(oh no a pun!!!). sure did that. my /etc/printcap file now looks okay. thanx again sandip p deshmukh --*** Try: cat | gs -sDEVICE=pnmraw -q -sPAPERSIZE=a4 -dNOPAUSE -r600 -sOutputFile=- - | pnm2ppa --bw -i - -o - > /dev/lp0 All on one line, replacing with an actual postscript file. Does anything print? Try it as root if it doesn't work as a normal user. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
dhcp-dns problem
I've been working on setting up dhcp-dns on my system so that I can get automatic name entries from DHCP. I've run into a problem, however. First, on the DHCP side. Some of the computers on the network have static leases set up so that they'll always get the same IP address. Since installing dhcp-dns, they now appear to be getting a dynamic IP along with their static IP, though it is the same IP. While this is not a problem per se, it is clogging up my syslog with lots of repetitive errors. Also, and I'm not sure if this is related to the fact that these machines have static IP's, the dynamic IP's are not getting any hostnames associated with them. These machines are, coincidentally, the only Linux machines on the network and are all running dhclient, so it could be a misconfiguration on my part. Any ideas? The other problem is with the actual DNS updating. As far as I can tell after reading /usr/share/doc/dhcp-dns/README and making sure that everything is set up right (including editing /etc/dhcp-dns.conf), I have everything configured properly. But I'm still not getting any updates in the DNS tables. Unfortunately, I can't seem to find any record of dhcp-dns running or any errors from bind. Any suggestions as to where I might be able to look for these? And finally, I keep seeing references to BOOTP while looking around for information. Unfortunately, I'm not very familiar with what BOOTP is. All I know is that it allows a computer to get an IP address and some basic network information. It sounds to me a lot like DHCP with some options being passed. I don't HAVE to have all the machines in my network listed in DNS, I just need to have them SOMEHOW accessible to each other by name instead of just by IP. So if BOOTP (or any other protocol) can handle this for me with a minimum amount of hassle I'd be very happy to give it a shot. TIA for any help. -Alex signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: repost - printing - help please
On Tue, Nov 12, 2002 at 01:08:17AM -0500, Scott Henson wrote: > On Tue, 2002-11-12 at 00:54, Sandip P Deshmukh wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 12, 2002 at 12:28:38AM -0500, Scott Henson wrote: > > > On Mon, 2002-11-11 at 23:44, Sandip P Deshmukh wrote: > > > > hp deskjet 710c printer is connected to it on lpt1 (i am using windows >nomenclature) > > > Just a general guess, but: > > > apt-get install magicfilter pnm2ppa > > > > did that. now, although i have lpr installed, i do not have lpr entry in >/etc/init.d! > I dont either. I have an entry for lpd in init.d > > > what to do now? > > > try to print something? > echo "test" | lpr does nothing! > > failing that did you configure magicfilter? or your printcap file? I > used /sbin/magicfilterconfig and my printer worked like magic(oh no a > pun!!!). sure did that. my /etc/printcap file now looks okay. thanx again sandip p deshmukh --*** BOFH excuse #349: Stray Alpha Particles from memory packaging caused Hard Memory Error on Server. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Squid, Apache and Apple Browsers
Mike Egglestone said: > Anyone have similar problems? ideas? you check the squid logs? when you refresh on the macs does it actually send a new request? you try turning off all cache on the browser client? nate -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Easy way to modify Knoppix?
On Sun, Nov 10, 2002 at 11:59:40PM -0200, Jeronimo Pellegrini wrote: > So... Is there an easy way to do what I'm trying to do? it'd be nice to > have a Debian-based-pocket-Linux-system! :-) Can you see what it's pausing on? About the only thing I've seen cp screw up on is files in /proc, which wouldn't exist on your Knoppix disk... Maybe try the old 'tar-pipe' trick: cd destination;(cd iso_mount_point;tar -cvf - .)|tar -xf - You'll want to test that first tho in case it destroys your harddrive or something. -rob msg12452/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Squid, Apache and Apple Browsers
> When a local web page is edited, the mac computers > can see the new changes. > > -- Sorry I have a typo on my last post, It should say ..."mac computers can't see the new changes" Mike - This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Squid, Apache and Apple Browsers
Hi, I have a woody box running squid, apache. There are OS 9.x imacs on the network which have their browsers set to squid for surfing. (IE 5.1 and netscape 4.x are used) Here's the problem: When a local web page is edited, the mac computers can see the new changes. The refresh button is hit, but the squid cache still sends out the old page. If a win98 machine is using squid in the browser and refreshes the page, then squid refreshes the cache and all works good. If I go back to the macs and refresh, then now the imac will get the newly edited web page. It seems that the imacs can't refresh new pages from squid. Note, the web pages are from apache running on the squid box. Anyone have similar problems? ideas? Thanks! Mike - This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why mount -o remount,ro /usr (sometimes) fails after apt-get dist-upgrade?
On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 11:56:02AM +0200, Shaul Karl wrote: > As you probably aware of, having a ro /usr and trying to remount it ro > after apt-get upgrade sometimes fails because the device or resource is > busy. > > I heard a possible explanation for this behavior and I was looking for > other people comments. It can be that I don't understand some or all of > the details. The explanation I heard goes like this: > Basically, when one removes a binary file from a UNIX file system, it > is gone - no matter if this binary is currently in use. Therefore, > assuming this binary is larger then one page of memory, as soon as the > system will have to load other pages of the binary into main memory in > order to be able to run other parts of the code it will fail to find it. This depends on the UNIX you are talking about. On Solaris, a program will get SIGSEGV as soon as it is scheduled to run again if you delete it's binary. On Linux however the program will continue to run just fine until the program exits. ... I just tested this with a very short binary. It continues to run fine after being deleted. I can also remount the partition ro. -rob msg12449/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: WordPerfect 8.0 or WordPerfect Office 2000
On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 01:04:20AM +1300, Haralambos Geortgilakis wrote: > anyone hereabouts have joy getting either or both of these old beasts of > verbal burden up & running on Debian 3.0? Install the 'wperfect' package. It's only job is to depend on the old old libraries needed to run WordPerfect 8. -rob msg12448/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Geforce4 mx440 problem
On Sun, Nov 10, 2002 at 08:57:12AM -0500, Thomas H. George,,, wrote: > I remebered earlier posting to the effect that it was necessary to get > the drivers for Gefore4 form nvidia so I downloaded > NVIDIA_GLX-1.0-3123.tar.gz and NVIDIA_kernel-1.0.3123.tar.gz and ran tar > xvzf on each of them. Unpacking GLX failed with the message that gzip > had encountered an unexpected end-of-file. I repeated the download and > tried again with the same result. I repeated the download with an > earlier posting of these files and tried again with the same result. You're using Netscape? It silently decompresses files without changing the extension. 'tar -xvf file.tar' should work. Also, have you had a look at nvidia-kernel-src and nvidia-glx-src? They automate most of the stuff required to get the NVidia drivers working. -rob msg12447/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Apache2 (php not working)
Apache2 says it supports PHP (at least on the website), and I have php4 installed. And it was working when I was just using the normal apache server. I was wondering if it's broken and I just haven't found anything saying it isn't fixed.. or if there's some special fix? I have no problem going back to the apache server but I thought I'd play with the apache2. Just right now I can't view my own webpages cause they are all in .php extentions. I've tried changing it all back to .html extensions.. but then the PHP doesn't work properly. So all I'm looking for is: 1) IS php supposed to work with apache2 (like it says it's supposed to) 2a) IF it is, what might I be doing wrong? 2b) IF NOT, I'd like to know so that I can start the process of removing php, apache2, and all the other stuff that is all linked so I can reinstall apache. -- Michelle Alexia "Jade" Storm Dragon Impersonating a Human and failing. msg12446/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: repost - printing - help please
On Tue, 2002-11-12 at 00:54, Sandip P Deshmukh wrote: > On Tue, Nov 12, 2002 at 12:28:38AM -0500, Scott Henson wrote: > > On Mon, 2002-11-11 at 23:44, Sandip P Deshmukh wrote: > > > hp deskjet 710c printer is connected to it on lpt1 (i am using windows >nomenclature) > > Just a general guess, but: > > apt-get install magicfilter pnm2ppa > > did that. now, although i have lpr installed, i do not have lpr entry in /etc/init.d! I dont either. I have an entry for lpd in init.d > what to do now? > try to print something? echo "test" | lpr failing that did you configure magicfilter? or your printcap file? I used /sbin/magicfilterconfig and my printer worked like magic(oh no a pun!!!). -Scott Henson (I really need to setup my .signature dont I? oh well...) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
SOLVED: Re: corrupt root fs
Thank you Nate, Sean, and Jason. I remembered that I could get a shell prompt from the Install script by hitting the old Alt-F2, so I booted from my install CD and poked around, and finally deduced I was having scsi bus errors. All I had changed today was I put the cover back on. So I took the cover off, removed the not-working DAT drive, tidied up some cables, booted back into the CD, got a shell, ran e2fsck, fixed a few inode errors, and voila I'm back in business . . . . Now, anybody want to trade me a working DAT drive for 3 I know that don't and 3 more that probably don't? BTW - did I mention that I love unix, and Debian in particular? This same problem in the Windoze world would have been a MUCH bigger headache to survive . . . . Plus, I love those Linux coders . . . . Once, when booting, it was having problems getting a status on a device on the scsi bus and the error messages were . . . error . . . trying again error . . . trying harder this time I was laughing out loud. You'd never see that out of a MicroSloth coder .. . . . Again, thanks all for your help. madmac On 11 Nov 2002, 17:40:15, nate wrote: > > 08:01: rw=0, wnat=2, limit=1 > > EXT3-fs: unable to read superblock > > attempt to access beyond end of device > > 08:01: rw=0, wnat=2, limit=1 > > EXT2-fs: unable to read superblock > > Kernel Panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 08:01 > > > maybe the drive is dieing, I think you need to boot from > a floppy or CD and run fsck on the partition and hope data > is still there. > > but it sounds like the drive may be physically damaged. > another option is to go to your SCSI bios and see if it > has any low level analysis tools(adaptec BIOSs have this), > if you can't get fsck working. > > first thing is boot to a floppy or CD though. > > nate > > > > -- Doug MacFarlane [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: repost - printing - help please
On Tue, Nov 12, 2002 at 12:28:38AM -0500, Scott Henson wrote: > On Mon, 2002-11-11 at 23:44, Sandip P Deshmukh wrote: > > hp deskjet 710c printer is connected to it on lpt1 (i am using windows >nomenclature) > Just a general guess, but: > apt-get install magicfilter pnm2ppa did that. now, although i have lpr installed, i do not have lpr entry in /etc/init.d! what to do now? thanx, sandip p deshmukh --*** BOFH excuse #292: We ran out of dial tone and we're and waiting for the phone company to deliver another bottle. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: repost - printing - help please
On Mon, 2002-11-11 at 23:44, Sandip P Deshmukh wrote: > hp deskjet 710c printer is connected to it on lpt1 (i am using windows nomenclature) Just a general guess, but: apt-get install magicfilter pnm2ppa -Scott Henson -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debugging sound, where do I start?
On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 02:23:14PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] > another console>. My guess is that this happens when either esd > or arts load their sound managing utilities. > How would I go about tracking down where the problem stems from? My first step would be to determine for certain whether the problem is esd/arts related. Do you have autologin turned on? esd/arts do not get started until someone actually logs in. If this is not the case, try to determine exactly where the system hangs, perhaps remove all other modules or move the sound modules to the end of /etc/modules. Basically you need to isolate the problem. -Mark -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gpg: Can't check signature - is something wrong?
Sandip P Deshmukh, 2002-Nov-12 09:38 +0530: > hello all! > > i often get messages from the list which say begin gpg signature. > > invariably, the second line says can not verify signature. > > is something wrong with my set-up or is it a tampered message? Does the message say that a public key couldn't be found? If so, perhaps your system can't reach a keyserver. Check your ~/.gnupg/options file and make sure a valid keyserver is listed. jc -- Jeff CoppockSystems Engineer Diggin' Debian Admin and User -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
repost - import a csv file as addressbook for mutt (abook)
hello all! i could convert my outlook contact folder information into a csv file. it has several fields that are uncommon - spouse's name, etc. now, i have started using mutt and will like to use information in the same file. either as aliases or through abook. i tried abook --convert option but it does not work. any suggestions on how can i do that? thanx in advance sandip p deshmukh --*** The sky is blue so we know where to stop mowing. -- Judge Harold T. Stone -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gpg: Can't check signature - is something wrong?
On Tue, Nov 12, 2002 at 09:38:27AM +0530, Sandip P Deshmukh wrote: > i often get messages from the list which say begin gpg signature. > invariably, the second line says can not verify signature. > is something wrong with my set-up or is it a tampered message? You probably have done this already, but I got the same messages until I did the following: 1) Install gnupg 2) In the ~/.gnupg/options file, add the line: keyserver wwwkeys.pgp.net Most people seem to use that server. Other than that, configuration would be done in your mail client - I use mutt, and mutt's debian package seems to have it pre-configured to fire up gpg if gnupg is installed. It would probably be a mime types / mailcap thing, though I'm unsure of that. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: UNIX shells - Bourne and C
Joshua Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-11-11 16:24:00 -0500]: > On Sun, Nov 10, 2002 at 05:32:58PM -0700, Bob Proulx wrote: > > The Korn shell is not free. At one time you could buy source from > > AT&T by an anonymous uucp connection for IIRC $300 and we did that. > > The Korn shell *used* to not be free, now it is, as in beer. You can > download it for free but not distribute it, I should not have mixed "free" with "buy for $300" as that creates a communication problem. My bad. Sorry. I meant "free speech" and not "free beer". Ksh is still not free speech software. If I read that right free-speech software distributions still can't distribute it. > and it is the ksh93 version rather than ksh88 which pdksh > emulates. Ksh93 is a pretty good scripting language from what I > hear, It fixes some of the problems which became apparent in ksh88 after more widespread use. $ENV comes to mind there. > but outside of the propritary Unix world, where ksh is the defacto > standard, its not likely to catch on as long as AT&T doesn't think > it should be downloaded anywhere other than its servers. Even in the proprietary unix world the use of /bin/ksh is drastically being reduced. Most vendors are moving to /bin/sh for scripts. Obviously going from /bin/ksh to /bin/sh is pretty trivial as posix sh is based on ksh88. But there are still a few vendors that cling to /bin/csh scripts. There is no explaining it. Bob msg12437/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: gpg: Can't check signature - is something wrong?
This one time, at band camp, Sandip P Deshmukh said: > hello all! > > i often get messages from the list which say begin gpg signature. > > invariably, the second line says can not verify signature. > > is something wrong with my set-up or is it a tampered message? In order to 'verify' a gpg signature, you either have to already have it in your keyring, or fetch it from a keyserver. If you have a peek in .gnupg/options, there's a line (usually commented out by default) telling gpg what keyserver to use. After that, you need to tell it to fetch keys - use the line keyserver-options auto-key-retrieve if you want to do so. HTH, -- -- |Stephen Gran | Anybody want a binary telemetry frame editor | |[EMAIL PROTECTED] | written in Perl? -- Larry Wall | |http://www.lobefin.net/~steve | in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | | | | -- msg12436/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
repost - printing - help please
hello all! my umpteen number of attempts to set my printer have been unsuccessful. here is the set-up: computer is running on woody 3.0 hp deskjet 710c printer is connected to it on lpt1 (i am using windows nomenclature) i tried reading linuxprinting.org - could not unsderstand much here is what confuses me: lpd, lpr-ppd, lprng, cups, /dev/lp0 - too too confusing. what i really want to do is this: set-up a printer (i miss windows 'add printer wizard') be able to print basic documents from my shell and X is it really so difficult? could someone post simple to understand list of instructions? thanx in advance sandip p deshmukh --*** In most instances, all an argument proves is that two people are present. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OpenOffice.org
On 11 Nov 2002 at 10:11pm, John Hasler wrote: :Patrick writes: :> The trademark for "OpenOffice" belongs to someone else. Therefore we must :> use "OpenOffice.org" when referring to this open source project and its :> software. : :That will only work if it is being done with the permission of the :trademark owner. I was just quoting the FAQ, not taking a legal position. But obviously you're right - I couldn't call a project "Microsoft.org" and get away with it (not that I'd want to). Patrick -- Patrick Wiseman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux user #17943 *Google First, Ask Later* -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Forcing default (StaticGray) visual under XEmacs
My desktop machine at home has two video cards and two monitors. The second monitor is old and cheap, and it has a flaky connection on the blue pin which is now pretty toast. To try to hack around this, I set up the second card to run in 8bpp mode with a default StaticGray X visual. This works great for things like xterm, which obligingly display things in shades of, uh, yellow. For a lot of things I like to do text editing with xemacs; having an Emacs on the second display feels like a win. But if I start XEmacs it's too clever for me: it detects that the display happens to have a PseudoColor visual available too, and decides to start up using this visual and a private colormap. The result is the usual colormap flickering, made worse by my window manager really failing to deal properly. What I really want is a black-and-white XEmacs, for values of "white" made up by only the red and green signals on the monitor, and without using a private colormap. It seems easy enough to force it to use a private colormap, but I don't want that! Any hints? (Things that come to mind: figure out how to make XEmacs DTRT; figure out how to make XFree86 not report visuals besides StaticGray. Would using GrayScale, which has dynamically allocated "colors", work? Is the documentation [notably XF86Config-4(5x) and s3virge(4x)] correct in that the gray visuals are only available at 4 and 8 bpp?) -- David Maze [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://people.debian.org/~dmaze/ "Theoretical politics is interesting. Politicking should be illegal." -- Abra Mitchell -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: UNIX shells - Bourne and C
Miquel van Smoorenburg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-11-11 21:19:04 +]: > Bob Proulx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >The old Bourne shell is not free software. Therefore only commercial > >proprietary systems have it available. > >[...] > >In order to find a Real Thing copy of the Bourne shell you would need > >to run on a commercial proprietary system which still has the legacy > >executables on the system. > > Well, not really. Here ya go: > http://ftp.gcu-squad.org/tuhs/PDP-11/Distributions/research/Henry_Spencer_v7/ > [...] > Anybody want to do a Debian/V7 ? ;) Sweet! Thanks for posting that. But I hate you now because I will be losing a lot of sleep staying up late to get that booted. :-) But none of those sources are free either. Just because you have access to the source code does not make the source free software. Bob msg12432/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Kernel Memory, Poss. Errors (Debian Woody 2.4.18-bf2.4)
On Monday 11 November 2002 08:35 pm, David Lloyd wrote: > Hi There, > > > I am experiencing some strange behaviour with Debian Woody. I have > attached a log as plain text and the output of dmesg. > > I suspect it may be faulty RAM. > > This occurs ONLY when I am in a KDE kdm managed X session and press > ctrl+alt+f[1-6] to get to a virtual console. It's not always consistent > but that's when it's most likely to happen. > > X disappears from underneath me as well. > > > > DSL Hi David Unfortunately, I don't have enough knowledge to decode the logfile for you, but if you suspect the RAM it might be worth your while installing memtest86 to give it a thorough work out. - Derek -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Kernel Memory, Poss. Errors (Debian Woody 2.4.18-bf2.4)
Hi There, I am experiencing some strange behaviour with Debian Woody. I have attached a log as plain text and the output of dmesg. I suspect it may be faulty RAM. This occurs ONLY when I am in a KDE kdm managed X session and press ctrl+alt+f[1-6] to get to a virtual console. It's not always consistent but that's when it's most likely to happen. X disappears from underneath me as well. DSL Nov 12 09:08:41 lothlorien kernel: memory : ca174cd0 Nov 12 09:08:41 lothlorien kernel: memory : Nov 12 09:08:41 lothlorien kernel: memory : ca174410 Nov 12 09:08:42 lothlorien kdm[4949]: session start failed Nov 12 09:08:43 lothlorien kernel: memory : ca174cd0 log.dmsg Description: Binary data
Re: Unsuscribe
You cannot read ... and you even cannot write. So why I am writing this? Because every time I get one of this dump "ususcribe" messages I have to pay money for it ...and I have to delete you from my folder ... what can be done against such dumpas.* ... I filter them straight to /dev/null ... with the condition that they are stupid but have the ability to write ... damm it I am getting sick of them ... hope they are going to burn in /dev/null forever. Oliver -- ... don't touch the bang bang fruit -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: UNIX shells - Bourne and C
Miquel van Smoorenburg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-11-11 21:11:10 +]:
> Osamu Aoki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >So what is the typical bashinsm we should be really careful?
>
> The whatever{foo,bar} syntax is very common but a bashism (and zshism).
> For example diff -u file.c{.orig,}
That is originally a csh syntax. But a good example of something to
avoid when using the standard shell.
Bob
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Re: OpenOffice.org
Patrick writes: > The trademark for "OpenOffice" belongs to someone else. Therefore we must > use "OpenOffice.org" when referring to this open source project and its > software. That will only work if it is being done with the permission of the trademark owner. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CHM and WMV files on debian ?
On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 08:03:26PM -0800, Derek Gladding wrote: > I can't help with the ".chm" files but I can recommend mplayer to watch the > .wmv files with: > > http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/ and i'd add xine and aviplay, both of which come as standard debian packages and support various windows media formats to different extents. note that you may need to find certain windows dll's/codecs elsewhere as well. --sean msg12426/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
gpg: Can't check signature - is something wrong?
hello all! i often get messages from the list which say begin gpg signature. invariably, the second line says can not verify signature. is something wrong with my set-up or is it a tampered message? regards, sandip p deshmukh --*** Why not go out on a limb? Isn't that where the fruit is? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Manual ldconfig required HELP!!!
On Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:43:10 -0500, Jerome Acks Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 03:29:35PM +, Pigeon wrote: >> On Mon, 11 Nov 2002 07:24:56 +, Pigeon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >> >> >Nah - no luck. Rescue disk has no dpkg. It's the same as the boot >> >image you get in the Debian 2.1 single CD. > >Instead of using rescue disk you could try tomsrtbt at >http://www.toms.net/rb/. Thanks - will try it - grabbing. >> >I tried copying /lib/* and /etc/ld.so.cache from the rescue disk to >> >the hard drive. Now the kernel can find init, but it still gets an >> >error loading shared libraries - undefined symbol: stderr - and panics >> >(unsurprisingly). Same with rescue 2.2.12 kernel and my 2.4.18. >> > >> Am I right in thinking that all ldconfig does is update the symlinks >> and /etc/ld.so.c[ache|onf]? If so, isn't all I need to know, what is >> the binary data at the beginning of /etc/ld.so.cache, and how to >> calculate it? > >From man page: > > ldconfig creates the necessary links and cache (for use by the run-time > linker, ld.so) to the most recent shared libraries found in the direc- > tories specified on the command line, in the file /etc/ld.so.conf, and > in the trusted directories (/usr/lib and /lib). ldconfig checks the > header and file names of the libraries it encounters when determining > which versions should have their links updated. ldconfig ignores sym- > bolic links when scanning for libraries. > I've read that! What I wanted to know is how to calculate the (what looks like) binary data at the beginning of /etc/ld.so.cache. (And how unLinuxy that is!) >> I'm also limited in my ability to experiment because the Linux box is >> too broken to run tar/gzip so I can't unpack debs from my CD to >> restore stuff from. ar still works, and WinZip can handle .tar.gz >> format, so it's sort of possible with a lot of rebooting to swap OS. >> Is there a Win98 archiver that can unpack debs? > >You can unpack debs with ar. See >http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-package.en.html#s6.2.9 > Nonono you didn't read my post! I'm trying to do exactly what this page suggests. ar still works, so I can get to the control & data .tar.gz stage. But tar/gzip don't work. So I have to copy the .tar.gzs onto my DOS partition, reboot into Windoze and unpack them with WinZip. I can't then put the unpacked versions back on the DOS partition cos the long filenames get mangled, and the rescue kernel can't handle VFAT so I can't mount my Windoze partition. So I have to burn them onto a CD. This procedure is a pain in the butt, and a Win98 app that understands ar format would cut out a reboot or two. However, the rest of that page had some useful stuff on it, so thanks! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CHM and WMV files on debian ?
On Monday 11 November 2002 08:05 pm, B T wrote: > Hi, > > Could you please tell me how I may view windows html help files (with > .chm extension) and windows media video files (with .wmv extension) on > my debian linux. > > sincerely > B Thomas Hi BT I can't help with the ".chm" files but I can recommend mplayer to watch the .wmv files with: http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/ - Derek -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: systemwide fetchmail
On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 08:03:57AM -0600, Shyamal Prasad wrote: > Yes, adding a 'fetchmail' (possibly with a -d option) at the end will > work. If fetchmail does not run in the background you will > have to wait till it is done to complete your login. did that. by the way, usually when i login and i think i use bash - i just type fetchmail at the prompt and it goes in background on its own. will it be because of my fetchmailrc? # Configuration created Fri Oct 25 13:38:42 2002 by fetchmailconf set postmaster "sandip" set bouncemail set no spambounce set properties "" set daemon 5 thanx sandip p deshmukh --*** You roll my log, and I will roll yours. -- Lucius Annaeus Seneca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CHM and WMV files on debian ?
Hi, Could you please tell me how I may view windows html help files (with .chm extension) and windows media video files (with .wmv extension) on my debian linux. sincerely B Thomas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
OpenOffice.org
Sorry for not threading, but I deleted the post which asked why we can't just call it "OpenOffice." It's a FAQ: http://www.openoffice.org/FAQs/faq-other.html#6 The trademark for "OpenOffice" belongs to someone else. Therefore we must use "OpenOffice.org" when referring to this open source project and its software. Patrick -- Patrick Wiseman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux user #17943 *Google First, Ask Later* -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: exim, delivery to /home/user instead of /var/mail/user
"Benedict" == Benedict Verheyen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Benedict> Hi, i'm trying to install a mail server but i'm stuck
Benedict> with exim. I run fetchmail and exim gets the mail from
Benedict> fetchmail (running as a daemon). I have 2 users on the
Benedict> system and my /etc/fetchmailrc contains 2 pop lines to
Benedict> check the mail from the users.
Make sure your pop lines have a "is 'userx' here" line to get the mail
to the right users.
Benedict> I then found something in the list on it and changed
Benedict> this line from my exim.conf (local delivery part)
Benedict> file = /var/spool/mail/${local_part}
Benedict> too this:
Benedict> directory = /home/${local_part}/Maildir
Benedict> maildir_format
Don't do this. There is no need to. Leave exim configured the way
Debian expects things to be (mail in /var/spool/main/...)
Benedict> Next step will be to forward the mail to procmail and
Benedict> according to the ~/.procmail file, sort it and put it in
Benedict> the correct directories. I need this for my
Benedict> debian-mailing lists :-)
If you used eximconfig to generate the exim.conf file you already have
procmail support. All you need to do is make sure that fetchmail
actually delivers your mail to the right local user identity. If that
user has a ~/.procmailrc file exim will use it.
In general: run eximconfig and choose the right option for yourself
(probably the "smarthost" option if all your mail is sent to a SMTP
server at your ISP and you use fetchmail to get your mail). After
that, do not mess with the exim.conf file more than you have to.
Benedict> Last step (but that's when everything else works) is to
Benedict> install a imap server on the server so i can check my
Benedict> mail from work.
Don't move things around too much, otherwise you will simply end up
configuring your imap server more than you would otherwise have to ;-)
Cheers!
Shyamal
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Re: OpenOffice.org new unstable packages available for testing
Chris Halls <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Prerelease packages for OpenOffice.org are now available from the unstable > section of our mirrors (http://www.linux-debian.de/openoffice/mirrors.html). Can someone tell me _why_ this project uses the name `OpenOffice.org' as a name for their software? What's wrong with `OpenOffice' (which is surely the name humans use when talking about it, and morever, isn't confusing)? -Miles -- I'm beginning to think that life is just one long Yoko Ono album; no rhyme or reason, just a lot of incoherent shrieks and then it's over. --Ian Wolff -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: execute command from HTML page
Debian User writes: > will try that, am unsure of how to give a lowly user [such as www-data] > enough rights to access wvdial[complains that it cannot acess device > /dev/ttyS1 which is the modem]. Don't use wvdial. Configure ppp with pppconfig and add the user to the 'dip' group (you can do that in pppconfig) and then use pon to start the connection and poff to stop it. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, Wisconsin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A few more Q. Re: How to install cups?
infotechsys said: > had two line, one that start with "deb cdrom" and the other > line,for the same cd, "deb-src". Should I add the src line for > each cd I add with apt-cdrom? don't need it. deb-src is for sourcecode, only used when compiling programs. perhaps your CD collection is incomplete, maybe you have multiple copies of the same CD ..I'm not sure, I reccomend using the network to install, not sure what else to suggest. nate -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: execute command from HTML page
On Sun, Nov 10, 2002 at 09:27:22PM +, Debian User spake thusly: > On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 03:44:33PM +1030, Barney Wrightson wrote: > > Actually you wouldn't even need the HTML at all, you could simply > > enter > > the address of the cgi script into your browser and load it to cause > > it > > to execute. Provided that apache and user permissions were set up > > correctly. > will try that, am unsure of how to give a lowly user [such as www-data] > enough rights to access wvdial[complains that it cannot acess device > /dev/ttyS1 which is the modem]. -this is a router box and currently only > has two users: root and hugh, root is root and hugh is used for my > email, i cannot start wvdial from hugh account. How would i give hugh > [or www-data] the privaleges to start wvdial I missed the beginning of the thread, but a better solution for controlling a dialup connection from several computers might be to use connectd. I've had great success with it. Search google for it - it's not packaged for debian, but it's very simple to install. -- Jon-o Addleman -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A few more Q. Re: How to install cups?
nate wrote: I have never installed woody from the CDs(sofar only installed potato then upgraded to woody). Perhaps you don't have the CD which contains the rest of the packages, or not all of the CDs are cataloged(check /etc/apt/sources.list to be sure all of the CDs you have are listed). When I check my sources.list not all cds where cataloged. I ran "apt-cdrom -d=/cdrom add" on the seven cds I have. I then ran "apt-get install cupsys" and it ask me to put the first cd in and press enter. Next message said it was working. A few seconds later it ask me to do this again, again and again. I then check my /etc/apt/sources.list again an notice that apt-cdrom added one line for each cd I entered, but cd one had two line, one that start with "deb cdrom" and the other line,for the same cd, "deb-src". Should I add the src line for each cd I add with apt-cdrom? When I enter "apt-cache search cups" I get - libcupsys2 libgimpprint1 gimpprint-locales Does this mean that I don't have the complete package? sounds like it, when I do apt-cache search cups I get: apcupsd - APC UPS Power Management cupsomatic-ppd - cups printer ppd's from LinuxPrinting.org cupsys - Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - server cupsys-bsd - Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - BSD commands cupsys-client - Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - client programs (SysV) cupsys-driver-gimpprint - gimp-print printer driver for CUPS cupsys-pstoraster - Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - pstoraster foomatic-bin - Printer/Driver database and print system - binaries foomatic-db - Printer/Driver database and print system - main database gimp1.2-print - print plugin for the GIMP gimpprint-doc - User Guide for GIMP-Print and CUPS gimpprint-locales - Locales files for gimp-print gtklp - Frontend for cups written in gtk hpoj - HP OfficeJet Linux driver (hpoj) libcupsys2 - Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - libs libcupsys2-dev - Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - development files libgimpprint1 - library necessary to use gimp-print programs libqtcups-dev - Qt interface library for CUPS (development files) libqtcups2 - Qt interface library for CUPS lire - generate reports from various logfiles qtcups - Qt front-end for CUPS. xpp - X Printing Panel kdelibs3-cups - KDE print system (CUPS support) I am using the debian http mirrors for my sources.list entries nate -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Manual ldconfig required HELP!!!
Jerome Acks Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Instead of using rescue disk you could try tomsrtbt at=20 > http://www.toms.net/rb/. Or make a custom, static version of busybox so that you can do some of the preliminaries. Once you have the target mounted, then you could operate on the dpkg file directly. ldconfig has a '-r root' option, too, when you are ready for it. Is it possible to add dpkg to busybox? That would be useful. Elizabeth -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RFC: Caps Lock
On 0, Thorsten Haude <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > I want to get my caps lock key a new purpose (because I absolutely > despise the current one) and want to hear your opinion about it. > > There are several options: > - a second ctrl key > - make a Modn key from the OS key, another Modn key from caps lock > - make the same Modn key form OS key and caps lock > > So what are your thoughts about this? Is there another good use I > could put caps lock to? Experiences? My pinky has loved me ever since I used a Sun keyboard and got used to it, and then figured out how to make X treat Caps-Lock as a control. Putting this in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 will do it: Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Generic Keyboard" Driver "keyboard" Option "CoreKeyboard" Option "XkbRules" "xfree86" Option "XkbModel" "pc104" Option "XkbLayout" "us" Option "XkbOptions""ctrl:swapcaps,alt:altismeta" EndSection or putting this in ~/.xmodmap: remove Lock = Caps_Lock remove Control = Control_L keysym Control_L = Caps_Lock keysym Caps_Lock = Control_L add Lock = Caps_Lock add Control = Control_L and using it with this command: xmodmap ~/.xmodmap Some of the other suggestions have been quite inventive, though, I thought. Regards Tom -- Tom Cook Information Technology Services, The University of Adelaide Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy, and taste good with ketchup. Get my GPG public key: https://pinky.its.adelaide.edu.au/~tkcook/tom.cook-at-adelaide.edu.au msg12411/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: corrupt root fs
hiya, On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 05:19:23PM -0800, madmac madmac wrote: > I get timeouts from the Adaptec's SCSI adapters BIOS > routine where it polls it's devices. ack... well it could be faulty hardware, in which case i'd see if i could try different disks on the same adaptor, and the same disks on a different adaptor... > Then it appears to boot until I get: > > cramfs: wrong magic > attempt to access beyond end of device > 08:01: rw=0, wnat=2, limit=1 > EXT3-fs: unable to read superblock > attempt to access beyond end of device > 08:01: rw=0, wnat=2, limit=1 > EXT2-fs: unable to read superblock > Kernel Panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 08:01 this suggests to me your hardware is fine, because it found the kernel image, which means it can read from the disk at least to a certain point. if your hardware's fine, and if your kernel is configured to boot from an initrd, maybe it's not finding the initrd? when you boot up, before lilo loads your kernel try mashing down shift to get a prompt, then hit tab to see if you have a Linux.old or something like that. iirc installing one kernel package over another will do this for you automagically, in the case something goes wrong :) if your hw is ok, then you should be able to boot up into your old 2.2 system > So I don't mind rebuilding from scratch if I have to. > Apt-get install is fun i couldn't even imagine the amount of time apt's saved me after mis-typed calls to dd :) > But is there a way (rescue floppy (I have a set) or > the CD) to mount and fsck the / and /boot partitions? > I could also use a look at /etc/fstab just to refresh > my memory (there were 8 partitions on that disk) of > what went where. yeah, rescue floppy/cd should do it, but try the above first. either way, mount / and /boot (assuming you can get to them from rescue or lilo prompt) into /target, edit /target/lilo.conf to address the issue (maybe missing entry for initrd?), then run # lilo -r /target to fix your new kernel. also, hopefully you'll be able to look at fstab, and have access to fsck, mount, etc in the case of a boot floppy without. hth, sean msg12410/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: corrupt root fs
madmac madmac said: > > 08:01: rw=0, wnat=2, limit=1 > EXT3-fs: unable to read superblock > attempt to access beyond end of device > 08:01: rw=0, wnat=2, limit=1 > EXT2-fs: unable to read superblock > Kernel Panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 08:01 maybe the drive is dieing, I think you need to boot from a floppy or CD and run fsck on the partition and hope data is still there. but it sounds like the drive may be physically damaged. another option is to go to your SCSI bios and see if it has any low level analysis tools(adaptec BIOSs have this), if you can't get fsck working. first thing is boot to a floppy or CD though. nate -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: corrupt root fs
> But today the system went Gack(1) - it had a SCSI > error on the console and everything was locked, so I > had to hard-boot, and when it came back up . . . . I've had many a machine go KAZACK! Have you phsyically removed each component of the machine in question and replaced tenderly? > I get timeouts from the Adaptec's SCSI adapters BIOS > routine where it polls it's devices. > > Then it appears to boot until I get: Sounds like something has either cooked, or come loose, make sure the connections are good. > No, I don't have backups(2), but there's only one > partition that has any data I need, and I don't think > it's on the bad disk. The / and /boot partitions are > on one disk, and /home is on another. /home I need. > Look at CD-RW's :-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
corrupt root fs
Ack . . Well, I recently upgraded the kernel my woody box from 2.2.20-compact to 2.4.16-686-smp. It went fine, except I had to run modconf to enable the loading of the 5c59x module. Not big whoop to you gurus, but a first for me . .. But today the system went Gack(1) - it had a SCSI error on the console and everything was locked, so I had to hard-boot, and when it came back up . . . . I get timeouts from the Adaptec's SCSI adapters BIOS routine where it polls it's devices. Then it appears to boot until I get: cramfs: wrong magic attempt to access beyond end of device 08:01: rw=0, wnat=2, limit=1 EXT3-fs: unable to read superblock attempt to access beyond end of device 08:01: rw=0, wnat=2, limit=1 EXT2-fs: unable to read superblock Kernel Panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 08:01 No, I don't have backups(2), but there's only one partition that has any data I need, and I don't think it's on the bad disk. The / and /boot partitions are on one disk, and /home is on another. /home I need. So I don't mind rebuilding from scratch if I have to. Apt-get install is fun But is there a way (rescue floppy (I have a set) or the CD) to mount and fsck the / and /boot partitions? I could also use a look at /etc/fstab just to refresh my memory (there were 8 partitions on that disk) of what went where. TIA madmac (1) - yes, it actually did say Gack. Out loud. No, it wasn't my imagination . . . . I don't konw how. Yes I know a cpu doesn't have a mouth . . . . (2) I know - shame on me for not backing up, but I'm unemployed, and I didn't have anything handy to install, and someone gave me 6 DAT drives of questionable status, and I had only tested 3, and none worked . . . . . . . . I was being cheap, and now I will pay with my time __ Do you Yahoo!? U2 on LAUNCH - Exclusive greatest hits videos http://launch.yahoo.com/u2 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why mount -o remount,ro /usr (sometimes) fails after apt-get dist-upgrade?
* sean finney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [11-11-2002 18:46]: > if you want to remount /usr read only, and have physical access > to the machine, just going into single user mode and remounting > it should do the trick, and then when you come back up into > multi-user mode /usr will stay ro. I don't mind booting the machine. In fact I prefer doing that to changing runlevels. My point is that some upgrades prove to be disruptive when you expect to be able to apply upgrades on a running system without downtime of the services it provides. To be clear, I don't mind booting. The systems involved are hardly critical. On a production system I would not dare changing anything on a running system. Mounting /usr rw even for a short time is a risk if mounting it ro is part of your security policy. And I'd like to test a few things before I give a system back to its users. I am just curious why I can do nine upgrades without a problem and then have one that prohibits remounting /usr ro. I am looking to get a better understanding of why this is happening to learn from it and if appropriate file bug reports when I can establish that there is in fact an error somewhere. Bob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Gnome Mime Types
Hi, I've just installed Woody from scratch, and am finding that changes to the File Type handlers section of the Gnome Control Center (e.g. setting up jpeg files to be opened up in GIMP by default) don't seem to flow through to the Gnome file manager. Any clues as to why? The file manager seems to recognise the files correctly (i.e. as image/jpeg), but displays the wrong icon (i.e. not the one I setup in the Gnome Control Center), and when I double click on the icon, it brings up a dialog asking me what application I wish to open it with (ie. not automatically in GIMP) Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Paul Phillips __ Analyst Programmer, ITAS U/VHF Radios Team, BIS Defence (Adelaide) CSC Module 7, Endeavour House, Fourth Ave, Technology Park, Mawson Lakes SA 5095 Ph: +61-8-8343-8834Fax: +61-8-8349-4537Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This email, including any attachments, is intended only for use by the addressee(s) and may contain confidential and/or personal information and may also be the subject of legal privilege. Any personal information contained in this email is not to be used or disclosed for any purpose other than the purpose for which you have received it. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not disclose or use the information contained in it. In this case, please let me know by return email, delete the message permanently from your system and destroy any copies. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
exim, delivery to /home/user instead of /var/mail/user
Hi,
i'm trying to install a mail server but i'm stuck with exim.
I run fetchmail and exim gets the mail from fetchmail
(running as a daemon). I have 2 users on the system
and my /etc/fetchmailrc contains 2 pop lines to check the
mail from the users.
1)I run fetchmail in daemon mode as root:
root 9557 0.0 0.6 1996 984 ? S01:44
0:00 /usr/bin/fetchmail --daemon 300 --syslog -f /etc/fetchmailrc -i
and the /etc/fetchmailrc file is owned by root:
-rw---1 root root290 Nov 12 01:43 fetchmailrc
I hope this isn't a problem for users to get their mail because
when i log in as a normal user and do
/etc/init.d/fetchmail awaken, i get this response:
"Awakening mail retrieval agent: system-wide fetchmail not configured."
Is this normal behaviour when running fetchmail as root?
Will it still get mail for non root users?
2)Exim receives the mailes for both users but puts the mail
in /var/spool/mail/input.
I tried changing this, hoping it would endup in
/var/mail/user1 en /var/mail/user2 but this isn't happening.
I then found something in the list on it and changed this
line from my exim.conf (local delivery part)
file = /var/spool/mail/${local_part}
too this:
directory = /home/${local_part}/Maildir
maildir_format
However, the mails still end up in /var/spool/exim/input
How can i change this and split the mails to /home/user1
and /home/user2 ?
Next step will be to forward the mail to procmail and
according to the ~/.procmail file, sort it and put it in the correct
directories.
I need this for my debian-mailing lists :-)
Last step (but that's when everything else works) is to
install a imap server on the server so i can check my
mail from work.
Kind regards,
Benedict
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RE: Trying to do a search on Debian home page.
The search feature (far right on horizontal nav bar) of www.debian.org has never worked for me. Matt > -Original Message- > From: infotechsys [mailto:infotechsys@;pivot.net] > Sent: Tuesday, 12 November 2002 8:12 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: Debian-User > Subject: Trying to do a search on Debian home page. > > > Hi, > Whenever I try to do a search on Debian I get a > message tell me that the search engine is down. > I went to Freshmeat an did a search on cups > and was taken to a list on debian that showed > all the packages associated with cups. So, my > question is how-come I have to go thru > freshmeat to do a search on debian ? > wayne > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: execute command from HTML page
hiyas, just to chime in on this, you should think of the security implications of what you're doing. if you're putting a button on a webpage that re-initializes your net connection, then anyone feeling particularly riley could keep you without an internet connection. instead of apache, i'd recommend apache-ssl. i'm running both of them on a machine at home, and bless debian the only difference in installing and running it is that you type 'apt-get install apache-ssl' instead of 'apache', and then answer a couple questions in debconf. with ssl then you could have somewhat respectable security, and feel a little more comfortable with requiring some kind of password verification for what you need to do. --sean msg12401/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Upgrading to XFree 4.2.1-3
On 11 Nov 2002 17:43:04 -0600 Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Were these the only 2 problems? The only significant ones. I had a problem with the monitor not powering down, which it had done before, but that was easily solved - though I'm not sure why I had the problem at all since I was using the same setup, but I don't know enough to find explanations. > When you say "font differences", what do you mean? Did they become > unbearably small or blocky? Mainly a size issue. I had to change the font size in my window manager (Blackbox) and make changes in one or two apps (but by no means all). But this wasn't the main issue issue I faced - getting X working at all was the issue - solved, as I said, by not using the newly generated config, but by replacing it with the old one. - Richard. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Upgrading to XFree 4.2.1-3
On Mon, 2002-11-11 at 17:09, Richard Kimber wrote: > On 11 Nov 2002 16:19:17 -0600 > Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Well, I'm scared, since I don't want to trash X Windows. Other > > than saving copies of /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 and /etc/X11/fs/config, > > are there any other preparations that I should make before taking > > the upgrade plunge? > > I guess you need to check that your driver is the right one, if you're > using one from your video card manufacturer's website. My TNT2 uses the nv driver, so no problem, I guess... > I upgraded. It works fine, though the upgrade wasn't entirely smooth, and > I only got it working by restoring the previous config, so having a backup > is clearly important. There were some font differences, but they were > minor - I don't know much about fonts. Were these the only 2 problems? When you say "font differences", what do you mean? Did they become unbearably small or blocky? Thanks -- ++ | Ron Johnson, Jr. mailto:ron.l.johnson@;cox.net | | Jefferson, LA USA http://members.cox.net/ron.l.johnson | || | "they love our milk and honey, but preach about another| | way of living"| |Merle Haggard, "The Fighting Side Of Me"| ++ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: I CANT SEND MAIL TO A DEBIEN LIST [This is the problem]
- Mensaje Original - Remitente: Jesus Rios <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > I send you the message returned. > - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors - <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (reason: 550 Host unknown) - Transcript of session follows - 550 5.1.2 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... Host unknown (Name server: list.debian.org: host not found) Intenta enviar a [EMAIL PROTECTED] ^^ Try to send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ^^ Saludos... .---..-- / \ __ /--RaveN BlackAngel / / \( )/- // ' \/ ` --- ArchAngel INC / // :: --- // / / /`'-- [EMAIL PROTECTED] // //..\\ http://www.arrakis.es/~raven/archangel UUUU '//||\\` --- Begin Message --- - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors - <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (reason: 550 Host unknown) - Transcript of session follows - 550 5.1.2 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... Host unknown (Name server: list.debian.org: host not found) --- Begin Message --- Buenas a todos. Tengo una impresora hp 845c en el pto USB. No me imprime. Sabeis que tengo q hacer?. --- End Message --- --- End Message ---
Re: Upgrading to XFree 4.2.1-3
On 11 Nov 2002 16:19:17 -0600 Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Well, I'm scared, since I don't want to trash X Windows. Other > than saving copies of /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 and /etc/X11/fs/config, > are there any other preparations that I should make before taking > the upgrade plunge? I guess you need to check that your driver is the right one, if you're using one from your video card manufacturer's website. I upgraded. It works fine, though the upgrade wasn't entirely smooth, and I only got it working by restoring the previous config, so having a backup is clearly important. There were some font differences, but they were minor - I don't know much about fonts. - Richard. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Easy way to modify Knoppix? [ found it ]
Ok, I think I found something (after a few days trying different keywords): http://www.es.gnome.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/gnome-live-cd/doc/modificar_knoppix2.txt?annotate=1.1&cvsroot=GNOME J. -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mozilla icon in titlebar
Hi All & Phil, who typed Once upon a time (mozilla 1.0, I think) the titlebar menu icon (and thus the icon on things like the KDE panel) was a little Mozilla icon. Lately it's reverted to the standard X that gets put on all X11 apps which do not specify their own icon. What do I need to change to get the little distinctive Mozilla icon back? Right Click on the KDE panel (right hand side of the task-bar), move your mouse up to the top of the pop-up menue entry, that says panel. Now select "add," then on this new pop-up menus select "non-KDE-Application." this will bring up a file browser, titled "select an executable." Now surf off to whatever the app it is you want inclueded is This is how I added Netscape 7.0 and its executable is in /usr/local/netscape, but you want /usr/lib/mozilla. *HTH* Greek Geek :-) There are two ways of disliking art. One is to dislike it. The other is to like it rationally. -- Oscar Wilde -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mozilla icon in titlebar
Once upon a time (mozilla 1.0, I think) the titlebar menu icon (and thus the icon on things like the KDE panel) was a little Mozilla icon. Lately it's reverted to the standard X that gets put on all X11 apps which do not specify their own icon. What do I need to change to get the little distinctive Mozilla icon back? Phil -- I would therefore like to posit that computing's central challenge, viz. "How not to make a mess of it," has /not/ been met. - Edsger Dijkstra, 1930-2002 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Upgrading to XFree 4.2.1-3
Moments ago, I did: # apt-get update # apt-get -s -u -t testing upgrade There, I saw that, among the 42 packages to be upgraded since I last did "apt-get -u -t testing upgrade" on 01-Nov, XFree 4.2.1-3 has been migrated down to sarge. Well, I'm scared, since I don't want to trash X Windows. Other than saving copies of /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 and /etc/X11/fs/config, are there any other preparations that I should make before taking the upgrade plunge? -- ++ | Ron Johnson, Jr. mailto:ron.l.johnson@;cox.net | | Jefferson, LA USA http://members.cox.net/ron.l.johnson | || | "they love our milk and honey, but preach about another| | way of living"| |Merle Haggard, "The Fighting Side Of Me"| ++ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: execute command from HTML page
On Sun, 10 Nov 2002 21:27:22 + Debian User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 03:44:33PM +1030, Barney Wrightson wrote: > > Actually you wouldn't even need the HTML at all, you could simply > > enter > > the address of the cgi script into your browser and load it to cause > > it > > to execute. Provided that apache and user permissions were set up > > correctly. > will try that, am unsure of how to give a lowly user [such as > www-data] enough rights to access wvdial[complains that it cannot > acess device/dev/ttyS1 which is the modem]. -this is a router box and > currently only has two users: root and hugh, root is root and hugh is > used for my email, i cannot start wvdial from hugh account. How would > i give hugh[or www-data] the privaleges to start wvdial As root: addgroup modem chgrp modem /dev/ttyS1 adduser hugh modem adduser www-data modem G -- Configure your Email to send TEXT ONLY -- See the following page: http://expita.com/nomime.html gvl2 (Gerald) AirBall the Rolling Basket Case (1969 Standard Beetle) LifeSaver (1974 Bay Window Bus) http://www.phorce1.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: public lending right
On November 9, 2002 07:35 am, Chris Lale wrote: > Thanks for the encouraging comments Levi. Well, thanks for your efforts! I'd definitely like to keep up with your progress and also do some distribution of a GNU/Linux package to local libraries, friends, etc. I wonder if anyone has put together a slick Debian install package with PGI (http://www.progeny.com/products/enablingtech.html)? Might be good for complete beginners. I haven't done a fresh install for a long time so for all I know this might be unnecessary with the latest default dbootstrap, anyways. > > The initial response of the local (UK) FE college library was very > positive. I thought that I might put together a compendium of > downloadable free documentation on a Web site. Also some guidance for > putting it together, lending strategies etc. > > When I get started, I will post the URL here. Meanwhile, suggestions for > specific documents would be welcome. > > Chris Osamu has a helpful list of URLs for getting started in Debian: http://people.debian.org/~osamu/newbie.html -- -Levi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: GLX and undefined references
On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 10:38:14PM +0100, Roman Joost wrote: [snip] > gcc lesson06.c -o lesson06 -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lGL -lGLU -lXxf86vm You probably need to add -lX11 for any X proggy (and maybe others). -- static const char signature[] = "Copyright (c) 2002 Eric G. Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>"; -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A few more Q. Re: How to install cups?
infotechsys said: > nate wrote: > >>they do not accomplish the same thing, the first command >>will grab cupsys and it's dependencies only, which from what my >>woody system tells me is: >> >>Depends: libc6 (>= 2.2.4-4), libcupsys2 (>= 1.1.13-1), libpam0g (>= >> 0.72-1), libslp1, libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 (>= 1:2.95.4-0.010810), zlib1g >> (>= 1:1.1.3), cupsys-pstoraster, adduser (>= 3.12), debconf > Do all of th above packages get installed by entering "apt-get install > cupsys" or > do you have to install them one at a time? ONLY the stuff listed in the Depends: line above will get installed by doing apt-get install cupsys. the rest have to be installed seperately(you can specify them at the same time like apt-get install package1 package2 package3) > > I'm installing from a set of CDs I bought and when I enter > "apt-get install cupsys" I'm told that cups could not be found. I have never installed woody from the CDs(sofar only installed potato then upgraded to woody). Perhaps you don't have the CD which contains the rest of the packages, or not all of the CDs are cataloged(check /etc/apt/sources.list to be sure all of the CDs you have are listed). > > When I enter "apt-cache search cups" I get - > libcupsys2 > libgimpprint1 > gimpprint-locales > > Does this mean that I don't have the complete package? sounds like it, when I do apt-cache search cups I get: apcupsd - APC UPS Power Management cupsomatic-ppd - cups printer ppd's from LinuxPrinting.org cupsys - Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - server cupsys-bsd - Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - BSD commands cupsys-client - Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - client programs (SysV) cupsys-driver-gimpprint - gimp-print printer driver for CUPS cupsys-pstoraster - Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - pstoraster foomatic-bin - Printer/Driver database and print system - binaries foomatic-db - Printer/Driver database and print system - main database gimp1.2-print - print plugin for the GIMP gimpprint-doc - User Guide for GIMP-Print and CUPS gimpprint-locales - Locales files for gimp-print gtklp - Frontend for cups written in gtk hpoj - HP OfficeJet Linux driver (hpoj) libcupsys2 - Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - libs libcupsys2-dev - Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - development files libgimpprint1 - library necessary to use gimp-print programs libqtcups-dev - Qt interface library for CUPS (development files) libqtcups2 - Qt interface library for CUPS lire - generate reports from various logfiles qtcups - Qt front-end for CUPS. xpp - X Printing Panel kdelibs3-cups - KDE print system (CUPS support) I am using the debian http mirrors for my sources.list entries nate -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
GLX and undefined references
I want to compile a tutorial from gamedev.net -> exactly this link: http://nehe.gamedev.net/tutorials/linuxglx/lesson06.tar.gz I get a lot of undefined references like: F86VidModeGetGammaRamp': : undefined reference to `_XReply' /usr/X11R6/lib/libXxf86vm.a(XF86VMode.o)(.text+0x23d8): In function `X F86VidModeGetGammaRamp': : undefined reference to `_XRead' /usr/X11R6/lib/libXxf86vm.a(XF86VMode.o)(.text+0x23eb): In function `X F86VidModeGetGammaRamp': : undefined reference to `_XRead' /usr/X11R6/lib/libXxf86vm.a(XF86VMode.o)(.text+0x2401): In function `X F86VidModeGetGammaRamp': : undefined reference to `_XRead' /usr/X11R6/lib/libXxf86vm.a(XF86VMode.o)(.text+0x2470): In function `X F86VidModeGetGammaRampSize': : undefined reference to `XMissingExtension' /usr/X11R6/lib/libXxf86vm.a(XF86VMode.o)(.text+0x24a5): In function `X F86VidModeGetGammaRampSize': : undefined reference to `_XFlush' /usr/X11R6/lib/libXxf86vm.a(XF86VMode.o)(.text+0x24df): In function `X F86VidModeGetGammaRampSize': : undefined reference to `_XReply' Im using the xserver-xfree86-dri-trunk package for my ATI 7500 3D Hardware acceleration (urks). I don't believe that the package will do the undefined references. I compile with: gcc lesson06.c -o lesson06 -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lGL -lGLU -lXxf86vm Im loading the glx package with no problems on startup. If someone has an idea, please let me know. Thanks!! Roman -- www: http://www.romanofski.de email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
locales depends on glibc
Hi I have 2 computers with woody installed When I run dselect/install I get the following First computer has locales ver. 2.2.5-11.2 (no problem) Second computer has also locales-2.2.5-11.2 which has dependency problems with glibc-2.2.5-11.2 apparently not found on this computer (and of course not found on the first computer either) I tried to install sane-1.0.9*.deb packages. Probably this gave rise to the problem with the second computer. What can I do to solve the problem, because this problem prevent me from installing new/other packages. dselect/update followed by dselect/install is no problem. dpkg --clear-avail didn't do the job I expected. Greetings Lourens -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Trying to do a search on Debian home page.
11/11/02 21:37:55, infotechsys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >So, myquestion is how-come I have to go thru >freshmeat to do a search on debian ? freshmeat prob referred to the debian package search [which works] http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages#search_packages hugh -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: execute command from HTML page
On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 03:44:33PM +1030, Barney Wrightson wrote: > Actually you wouldn't even need the HTML at all, you could simply > enter > the address of the cgi script into your browser and load it to cause > it > to execute. Provided that apache and user permissions were set up > correctly. will try that, am unsure of how to give a lowly user [such as www-data] enough rights to access wvdial[complains that it cannot acess device /dev/ttyS1 which is the modem]. -this is a router box and currently only has two users: root and hugh, root is root and hugh is used for my email, i cannot start wvdial from hugh account. How would i give hugh [or www-data] the privaleges to start wvdial > > The other option of course is to work out the issues with diald - but > obviously you are sick of trying that :) Or maybe setup dial-on-demand > in ppp-config instead of using diald/wvdial? I seem to remember > someone > recently having diald problems use this method to good effect. will try this also, have looked at ppp-config but it thought it was for configuring diald not for setting up independant dial on demand, will look again, thanks, hugh -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: obtaining debian woody latest
I want to download the latest woody [no pun intended], I dont have a cd burner, but I have the bandwidth, could someone tell me about net based install or floppy based, the online installation manual points to one place and the uk ftp site is another and I dont understand. HELP! Regards, Dean. On Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:14:26 -0500 Levi Waldron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: --- Begin Message --- On November 11, 2002 11:44 am, james leclair wrote: > Hello, could someone please give detailed info on obtaining the latest > stable version of woody. Instructions on where to go(FTP preferably)and > what exactly to do would be greatly appreciated:). > Thanks, > James Your best options, as I see them: 1) Use jigdo to locate sites, download, and create images. Debian mirrors don't contain pre-made images because Debian is so huge, but jigdo takes care of this for you and is ported to several OS's. http://www.debian.org/CD/jigdo-cd/ 2) Buy the CDs at a very low cost, if you don't have a fast internet connection or don't want the trouble of downloading http://www.debian.org/CD/vendors/ 3) download a minimimal installation image then install the rest package by package: http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ You will see more options at http://www.debian.org/CD Debian offers some excellent documentation to help you get started. The faq at http://www.debian.org/CD/faq/ and the installation guide at http://www.debian.org are invaluable. And don't be afraid to ask questions on this list. Enjoy! -- -Levi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- End Message ---
Re: Trying to do a search on Debian home page.
On Mon, 2002-11-11 at 15:37, infotechsys wrote: > Hi, > Whenever I try to do a search on Debian I get a > message tell me that the search engine is down. > I went to Freshmeat an did a search on cups > and was taken to a list on debian that showed > all the packages associated with cups. So, my > question is how-come I have to go thru > freshmeat to do a search on debian ? Umm... perhaps because the search is down...? ;> Seriously though, if you're looking for packages, you're searching in the wrong place. Go to http://www.debian.org/packages (or http://packages.debian.org/ if that's easier to remember). That search works. Rob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: UNIX shells - Bourne and C
On Sun, Nov 10, 2002 at 05:32:58PM -0700, Bob Proulx wrote: > The Korn shell is not free. At one time you could buy source from > AT&T by an anonymous uucp connection for IIRC $300 and we did that. The Korn shell *used* to not be free, now it is, as in beer. You can download it for free but not distribute it, and it is the ksh93 version rather than ksh88 which pdksh emulates. Ksh93 is a pretty good scripting language from what I hear, but outside of the propritary Unix world, where ksh is the defacto standard, its not likely to catch on as long as AT&T doesn't think it should be downloaded anywhere other than its servers. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Broken Webmin
Hello, I am a total noob, but am I the only one who breaks webmin every time they run apt-get? It appears that the current package only works for me if I untar v.1.030 and run the setup.sh script. I also seem to have broken that install by trying to install webmin-apache via apt-get. I loved apt-get until now! Thanks, Dan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: UNIX shells - Bourne and C
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Bob Proulx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >The old Bourne shell is not free software. Therefore only commercial >proprietary systems have it available. You won't find it in a Debian >system for this reason. In fact I know not of any free software based >system that has the Real Thing available. Since only rewritten clones >are available anyone that has taken the time to rewrite the old Bourne >/bin/sh will have taken the time to make it a modern standard >conforming /bin/sh. (However, perhaps someone can prove me wrong.) > >In order to find a Real Thing copy of the Bourne shell you would need >to run on a commercial proprietary system which still has the legacy >executables on the system. Well, not really. Here ya go: http://ftp.gcu-squad.org/tuhs/PDP-11/Distributions/research/Henry_Spencer_v7/ The original Unix v7 sources for the PDP11. Including 'sh' and 'cc'. There's also a binary distribution floating around on the net, and a PDP11 emulator. I've booted Unix v7 (from 1979!) and recompiled some utilities, talk about retro computing! Ah, at the same site. See http://ftp.gcu-squad.org/tuhs/PDP-11/Emulators/Supnik_2.3/ Anybody want to do a Debian/V7 ? ;) Ofcourse, all this stuff predates posix by at least a decade. Mike. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Trying to do a search on Debian home page.
Hi, Whenever I try to do a search on Debian I get a message tell me that the search engine is down. I went to Freshmeat an did a search on cups and was taken to a list on debian that showed all the packages associated with cups. So, my question is how-come I have to go thru freshmeat to do a search on debian ? wayne -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: UNIX shells - Bourne and C
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Osamu Aoki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Sun, Nov 10, 2002 at 11:41:34AM +, Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote:
>> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>> Osamu Aoki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >By the way, dash will be the POSIX shell in testing/unstable
>> >Bashism such as "export FOO=bar" is no-no :)
>>
>> That's not a bashism, that's valid POSIX syntax and has been
>> for at least 10 years or so.
>
>Sorry, I might have got confused. It worked on dash :-)
>So what is the typical bashinsm we should be really careful?
The whatever{foo,bar} syntax is very common but a bashism (and zshism).
For example diff -u file.c{.orig,}
Mike.
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Re: pipe attachments in mutt
This one time, at band camp, Sandip P Deshmukh said: > On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 11:12:24AM +, Glyn Kennington wrote: > > Sandip P Deshmukh wrote: > > > > Things you can do: If you have any pdf files saved, type `see filename.pdf' > > > > and see what happens. > > > works perfectly! opens xpdf and the file > > > > Well in that case, the problem almost certainly lies with mutt, because > > `see' is a program to call the appropriate mailcap entry. (You can test > > again by trying to look at a pdf file in lynx, though.) > > > > When mutt shows you the raw file (all those indecipherable characters) does > > it show any kind of error like `no matching mailcap entries found'? > > i will just repeat what i did. got to the message that has an pdf attachment > hit v > choose the pdf attachment > hit enter > a window opens with ascii characters like % 5 m and so on. but you are not reading a >pdf > document > no error is shown > hit q to quit This looks like `less` is being called, as nothing else matches, and less sometimes adds itself as a default viewer for unmatched application types. I would try adding a correct .mailcap for your account, and when you have it working correctly, add it into /etc/mailcap. -- -- |Stephen Gran | Who's on first? | |[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |http://www.lobefin.net/~steve | | | | | -- msg12379/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: A few more Q. Re: How to install cups?
nate wrote: they do not accomplish the same thing, the first command will grab cupsys and it's dependencies only, which from what my woody system tells me is: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.2.4-4), libcupsys2 (>= 1.1.13-1), libpam0g (>= 0.72-1), libslp1, libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 (>= 1:2.95.4-0.010810), zlib1g (>= 1:1.1.3), cupsys-pstoraster, adduser (>= 3.12), debconf so no 'foomatic' stuff there. the cups packages I have installed: cupsys install cupsys-bsd install cupsys-client install cupsys-driver-gimpprintinstall cupsys-pstorasterinstall libcupsys2 install libqtcups2 install qtcups install I use the gimpprint driver. nate Do all of th above packages get installed by entering "apt-get install cupsys" or do you have to install them one at a time? I'm installing from a set of CDs I bought and when I enter "apt-get install cupsys" I'm told that cups could not be found. When I enter "apt-cache search cups" I get - libcupsys2 libgimpprint1 gimpprint-locales Does this mean that I don't have the complete package? wayne -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: obtaining debian
Another one: Use piggy at http://www.progeny.com/products/enablingtech.html Levi Waldron wrote: On November 11, 2002 11:44 am, james leclair wrote: Hello, could someone please give detailed info on obtaining the latest stable version of woody. Instructions on where to go(FTP preferably)and what exactly to do would be greatly appreciated:). Thanks, James Your best options, as I see them: 1) Use jigdo to locate sites, download, and create images. Debian mirrors don't contain pre-made images because Debian is so huge, but jigdo takes care of this for you and is ported to several OS's. http://www.debian.org/CD/jigdo-cd/ 2) Buy the CDs at a very low cost, if you don't have a fast internet connection or don't want the trouble of downloading http://www.debian.org/CD/vendors/ 3) download a minimimal installation image then install the rest package by package: http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ You will see more options at http://www.debian.org/CD Debian offers some excellent documentation to help you get started. The faq at http://www.debian.org/CD/faq/ and the installation guide at http://www.debian.org are invaluable. And don't be afraid to ask questions on this list. Enjoy! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: recover ext3 deletion
On November 8, 2002 09:09 pm, Colin Watson wrote: > Can I suggest using revision control for important files? That way, you > have a more convenient centrally-located thing to back up (the > repository), and you get the extra benefit of being able to go back and > look at older versions of what you've done. Also, if you get a second > machine you'll just be able to check files out from your repository > rather than messing about trying to keep home directories synchronized, > and you'll get instant distributed backups. Thanks for the suggestion, I'm going to start doing this. emacs has a version control package to make this simpler and more automated. See: http://www.gnu.org/manual/emacs/html_node/emacs_127.html -- -Levi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apt-get
> Comment out the cdrom devices (put a # in front of the line), add > the appropriate ftp/www locations in your /etc/apt/sources.list > file, and type: apt-get update in a terminal window while connected > to the internet. Thanks for the help...I immediately tried this and now I'm CDROM-free! :o) -- Ron aka W|GGL|T http://www.wigglit.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apt-get
On Monday 11 November 2002 13:16, Donald R. Spoon wrote: > It is up to you if you want to retain 3 sets of somewhat > duplicative internet sources. I find I have done quite will here > with only one set. Stable doesn't change that frequently, but you > might want to have more than one source if you have frequent > problems connecting to one or more of them. These are remnants of the install that I hadn't cleaned out yet. I'll keep in mind to keep an extra few sources available in case of connection problems. Thanks > Another reason to have > more than one internet source is if you use JIGDO to obtain new > ISOs...something you will not have to do for a while since you have > a current set of CDROMs for Debian Woody. I would definaltely > keep the entry for Debian Security, since this is where most of the > updated packages are found. Yeah, I installed via JIGDO. Thanks for the help. -- Ron aka W|GGL|T http://www.wigglit.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pipe attachments in mutt
-- Sandip P Deshmukh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote (on Monday, 11 November 2002, 05:20 PM +0530): > On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 11:12:24AM +, Glyn Kennington wrote: > > Sandip P Deshmukh wrote: > > > > Things you can do: If you have any pdf files saved, type `see filename.pdf' > > > > and see what happens. > > > works perfectly! opens xpdf and the file > > > > Well in that case, the problem almost certainly lies with mutt, because > > `see' is a program to call the appropriate mailcap entry. (You can test > > again by trying to look at a pdf file in lynx, though.) > > > > And > > have you altered any mailcap_* entries in your .muttrc? This is a shot in > > the dark, but it's the only remaining thing I can think of. If that's not > > it, you might do better asking on a mutt mailing list. > > all my mailcap_* entries in my .muttrc are commented out!! Good -- that means that it should be looking in standard places for mailcap entries: /etc/mailcap and ~/.mailcap I use the following entries in my ~/.mailcap file. If you don't have a ~/.mailcap file, you can simply create one. Here they are: text/html;/usr/bin/links %s; needsterminal text/x-vcard; /home/matthew/bin/mutt.vcard.filter; copiousoutput application/octet-stream; /home/matthew/bin/mutt.octet.filter.pl %s; copiousoutput application/pdf; /usr/bin/xpdf %s; test=test "$DISPLAY" != ""; description=Portable Document Format; nametemplate=%s.pdf The first line pipes any html directly to links; I also have the line "auto_view text/html" in my .muttrc, which causes the output to return to mutt. The next two lines are filters you can find from the various mutt faqs out there, and are used to 1) output vcard information, and 2) guess what type of file came through as an application/octet-stream (the default attachment type for a number of sub-par email clients). The last one launches xpdf on the temp file created by mutt for the application/pdf attachment. By the way -- the pdf one I found in my /etc/mailcap file, and is standard on Debian, from what I can tell. -- Matthew Weier O'Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Debugging sound, where do I start?
Hi, I am using Debian Woody and I can get sound to work but if I enable sound by loading the modules at boot the sound daemon hangs the box . My guess is that this happens when either esd or arts load their sound managing utilities. I have tried with both ALSA and the kernel sound modules. Same result. How would I go about tracking down where the problem stems from? My sound card is a Yamaha . tia -- Luc Lefebvre o /`-' Open Source, a strategic choice \ www.eff.org for mission-critical applications___/___./ www.publicknowledge.org http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html Key fingerprint = D2E5 5E35 B910 6F4E 0242 EC63 0FD9 96D0 C7F4 784E -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apt-get
Ron Sinclair wrote: I'm an occasional Libranet user but installed Debian 3.0 a few weeks ago. Everything is fine but was wondering something: when installing via ap-get, the install always defaults to installing from the cdrom device. > -SNIP- < Would I need to comment the cdrom lines? I'd much rather install from the internet sources than juggle 7 disks. TIA You can safely eliminate or comment out the CDROM entrys, since the same information is available from the other listed internet sources. It is up to you if you want to retain 3 sets of somewhat duplicative internet sources. I find I have done quite will here with only one set. Stable doesn't change that frequently, but you might want to have more than one source if you have frequent problems connecting to one or more of them. Another reason to have more than one internet source is if you use JIGDO to obtain new ISOs...something you will not have to do for a while since you have a current set of CDROMs for Debian Woody. I would definaltely keep the entry for Debian Security, since this is where most of the updated packages are found. Cheers, -Don Spoon- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: obtaining debian
On November 11, 2002 11:44 am, james leclair wrote: > Hello, could someone please give detailed info on obtaining the latest > stable version of woody. Instructions on where to go(FTP preferably)and > what exactly to do would be greatly appreciated:). > Thanks, > James Your best options, as I see them: 1) Use jigdo to locate sites, download, and create images. Debian mirrors don't contain pre-made images because Debian is so huge, but jigdo takes care of this for you and is ported to several OS's. http://www.debian.org/CD/jigdo-cd/ 2) Buy the CDs at a very low cost, if you don't have a fast internet connection or don't want the trouble of downloading http://www.debian.org/CD/vendors/ 3) download a minimimal installation image then install the rest package by package: http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ You will see more options at http://www.debian.org/CD Debian offers some excellent documentation to help you get started. The faq at http://www.debian.org/CD/faq/ and the installation guide at http://www.debian.org are invaluable. And don't be afraid to ask questions on this list. Enjoy! -- -Levi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: broadcom netXtreme gigabit ethernet module
Kevin Coyner wrote: Trying to figure out what module driver to use during installation for an ASUS P4PE motherboard that has a built-in Broadcom NetXtreme Gigabit Ethernet. I checked google, asus.com and broadcom.com with no luck. Not sure where else to dig as this is relatively new. Wondering if some other driver is capable of working at the 100M level as I don't really need the 1G speed since the other end of the pipe can't support it yet. Thanks Kevin Try apt-get install bcm5700-source broadcom gigabit ethernet driver only available as sourcecode not as binary, which I find a bit strange because it's also in stable only available in source form. Regards, Roland... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: networking woes with 2.4 kernel
Shyamal Prasad wrote: "Jeff" == Jeff Cours <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Jeff> Could Jeff> someone please point me to where to can I find the Jeff> configuration file that was used to create Jeff> kernel-image-2.4.18-686? If you installed the image, then it should be in /boot/config-2.4.18-686 Doh! I didn't think to look in the obvious place. Thanks very much for your help! - Jeff -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Manual ldconfig required HELP!!!
On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 03:29:35PM +, Pigeon wrote: > On Mon, 11 Nov 2002 07:24:56 +, Pigeon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > >Nah - no luck. Rescue disk has no dpkg. It's the same as the boot > >image you get in the Debian 2.1 single CD. Instead of using rescue disk you could try tomsrtbt at http://www.toms.net/rb/. > > > >I tried copying /lib/* and /etc/ld.so.cache from the rescue disk to > >the hard drive. Now the kernel can find init, but it still gets an > >error loading shared libraries - undefined symbol: stderr - and panics > >(unsurprisingly). Same with rescue 2.2.12 kernel and my 2.4.18. > > > Am I right in thinking that all ldconfig does is update the symlinks > and /etc/ld.so.c[ache|onf]? If so, isn't all I need to know, what is > the binary data at the beginning of /etc/ld.so.cache, and how to > calculate it? From man page: ldconfig creates the necessary links and cache (for use by the run-time linker, ld.so) to the most recent shared libraries found in the direc- tories specified on the command line, in the file /etc/ld.so.conf, and in the trusted directories (/usr/lib and /lib). ldconfig checks the header and file names of the libraries it encounters when determining which versions should have their links updated. ldconfig ignores sym- bolic links when scanning for libraries. > I'm also limited in my ability to experiment because the Linux box is > too broken to run tar/gzip so I can't unpack debs from my CD to > restore stuff from. ar still works, and WinZip can handle .tar.gz > format, so it's sort of possible with a lot of rebooting to swap OS. > Is there a Win98 archiver that can unpack debs? You can unpack debs with ar. See http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-package.en.html#s6.2.9 Alternative: you can download package tar files from subdirectories of http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/ and use tar to unpack. You can search for specific packages at http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages. There will be a link to tar file on the packsage html page also. -- Jerome msg12367/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: apt-get
On Monday 11 November 2002 01:33 pm, Ron Sinclair wrote: > I'm an occasional Libranet user but installed Debian 3.0 a few weeks > ago. Everything is fine but was wondering something: when > installing via ap-get, the install always defaults to installing from > the cdrom device. > == Comment out the cdrom devices (put a # in front of the line), add the appropriate ftp/www locations in your /etc/apt/sources.list file, and type: apt-get update in a terminal window while connected to the internet. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
apt-get
I'm an occasional Libranet user but installed Debian 3.0 a few weeks ago. Everything is fine but was wondering something: when installing via ap-get, the install always defaults to installing from the cdrom device. Here's my sources.list: __ deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 r0 _Woody_ - Official i386 Binary-7 (20020718)]/ unstable contrib main non-US/contrib non-US/main deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 r0 _Woody_ - Official i386 Binary-6 (20020718)]/ unstable contrib main non-US/contrib non-US/main deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 r0 _Woody_ - Official i386 Binary-5 (20020718)]/ unstable contrib main non-US/contrib non-US/main deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 r0 _Woody_ - Official i386 Binary-4 (20020718)]/ unstable contrib main non-US/contrib non-US/main deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 r0 _Woody_ - Official i386 Binary-3 (20020718)]/ unstable contrib main non-US/contrib non-US/main deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 r0 _Woody_ - Official i386 Binary-2 (20020718)]/ unstable contrib main non-US/contrib non-US/main deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 r0 _Woody_ - Official i386 Binary-1 (20020718)]/ unstable contrib main non-US/contrib non-US/main deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ stable main non-free contrib deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ stable main non-free contrib deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable/non-US main contrib non-free deb-src http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable/non-US main contrib non-fr ee deb http://ftp1.sourceforge.net/debian/ stable main non-free contrib deb-src http://ftp1.sourceforge.net/debian/ stable main non-free contrib deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable/non-US main contrib non-free deb-src http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable/non-US main contrib non-fr ee deb http://debian.uchicago.edu/debian/ stable main non-free contrib deb-src http://debian.uchicago.edu/debian/ stable main non-free contrib deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable/non-US main contrib non-free deb-src http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable/non-US main contrib non-fr ee deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main contrib non-free ___ Would I need to comment the cdrom lines? I'd much rather install from the internet sources than juggle 7 disks. TIA -- Ron aka W|GGL|T http://www.wigglit.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: true-type and wine
%% Douglas Orchard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: do> Has anybody written a Howto or tutorial on setting up the truetype do> fonts in Debian woody for wine. If not can somebody tell me which do> packages I should apt-get install? Do you have TrueType fonts set up for other apps? If so, I don't see how Wine would be any different. Anyway, when I started Wine it seemed to find my TrueType fonts just fine. If not, then you're asking slightly the wrong question :). -- --- Paul D. Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> HASMAT--HA Software Mthds & Tools "Please remain calm...I may be mad, but I am a professional." --Mad Scientist --- These are my opinions---Nortel Networks takes no responsibility for them. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DCOP problems... Kicker won't start at kdelaunch
Hi, > From: Stephen Gran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > First off, I wouldn't expect a whole lot of stability running a > development kernel (^: That being said, mtrr is: I wouldn't say that. I've been running dev kernels, including the current config of 2.5.44, for some time, both on Woody and Gentoo without problems. > On Intel P6 family processors (Pentium Pro, Pentium II and later) > the Memory Type Range Registers (MTRRs) may be used to control > processor access to memory ranges. This is most useful when you have > a video (VGA) card on a PCI or AGP bus. Enabling write-combining > allows bus write transfers to be combined into a larger transfer > before bursting over the PCI/AGP bus. This can increase performance > of image write operations 2.5 times or more. > > see /usr/src/linux-2.4.19/Documentation/mtrr.text for more. Doesn't > sound like what's causing your problems, though - this'll just give you > better video frame rates. Yes, that's why I use it... Thanks! :) > DCOP is the KDE server that allows apps to communicate with each other > and the desktop environment. If that's experiencing communication > failures, then that would be why your apps are having a hard time. > > I would suggest trying with a stable kernel - apt-get install one of the > 2.4.x kernels optimized for your processor type and see howit goes. I booted the 2.2.19 kernel installed during installation with the same results. Logging on as root works fine, so it would seem like some kind of permission related problem - my only user suddenly lacks some kind of permissions. Since I havent modified any systempermissions I find that a bit odd...? What I did howerver, was to remove kdm... Using "update-rc -f kdm remove" and then killing kdm. Maybe that backfired somehow? Pontus replyAll Description: PGP signature
Re: A few more Q. Re: How to install cups?
infotechsys said: > I want to thank the people that replied to this post.I have > a few thing I would like to understand.One person suggest > that I enter this command - > > "apt-get install cupsys" > > and another person suggested that I enter > > "apt-get install cupsys foomatic-db cupsomatic-ppd fomatic-bin". > > Can someone explain the difference in these command or do they > both accomplish the same thing? While trying to learn more they do not accomplish the same thing, the first command will grab cupsys and it's dependencies only, which from what my woody system tells me is: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.2.4-4), libcupsys2 (>= 1.1.13-1), libpam0g (>= 0.72-1), libslp1, libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 (>= 1:2.95.4-0.010810), zlib1g (>= 1:1.1.3), cupsys-pstoraster, adduser (>= 3.12), debconf so no 'foomatic' stuff there. the cups packages I have installed: cupsys install cupsys-bsd install cupsys-client install cupsys-driver-gimpprint install cupsys-pstoraster install libcupsys2 install libqtcups2 install qtcups install I use the gimpprint driver. nate -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why mount -o remount,ro /usr (sometimes) fails after apt-get dist-upgrade?
hi, On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 05:53:34PM +0100, Robert Ian Smit wrote: > OP mentioned some problems wrt to remounting file-systems. Although > the discussion that followed was very interesting, that issue and > even more so a solution, is unclear to me. > > I had to reboot a system after a security upgrade to make /usr ro. > I messed up the installation at first (issueing commands with /usr > ro and /tmp noexec), so I decided to blame myself for the reboot, > while still feeling unease at the reminiscence of the "Restart > Computer (yes/no)" syndrome. if you want to remount /usr read only, and have physical access to the machine, just going into single user mode and remounting it should do the trick, and then when you come back up into multi-user mode /usr will stay ro. if you don't, you can probably do something along the lines of - write a script that - deletes itself - remounts /usr ro - changes runlevel back to default put that in rcS.d, and then remotely tell it go into single user mode. never had to do that, but i think it'd work... --sean msg12361/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
