Re: repost - printing - help please

[Sandip P Deshmukh]

On Wed, Nov 13, 2002 at 04:25:06PM +, Avtar Marwaha wrote:
> On Wed, 2002-11-13 at 06:22, Sandip P Deshmukh wrote:
> 
> > > foomatic-compiledb -t ppd pnm2ppa
> > 
> > did that too
> 
> what was the output when you ran this command?

got it - you have to execute that command sitting in /etc

> > when i say print test page, nothing happens!!

nothing happens still!!
> > 
> > it just keeps saying attempting to connect to host deshmukh.work on port 9100!

i am in a mess regarding printing!!

> hmm, did you copy the pnm2ppa.conf file that I put in my other email? 
> If you didn't then none of this will work.

sure i did that.

> 
> Is the host deshmukh.work the same computer that the printer is
> connected to or a computer elsewhere on your network? (if you have one.)

same as the computer to which the printer is connected!
> 
> Other than that port 9100 seems to be used by a network printer queue
> program, such as lpr.  But I dont know anything about them so I cant
> help.  Try checking the /var/log/cups/error.log file or the printer
> status in the web interface to see if that can tell you anything.  
> 
> > thank for help 
> 
> No problem
> 
> Avtar
> 
> 
> 
> 

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Re: (semi-OT) JPG files -> Movie file

[Jörg Johannes]

> well for now I think I have to settle on imagemagick. it can
> convert a bunch of images(even jpeg) to an animated gif. I
> installed ucbmpeg, and also mjpegtools but both immediately
> segfault when processing the first JPG file. Actually I
> was able to get mjpegtools to create a YUV file without
> errors, but once I tried to convert that to MPEG it segfaulted.

I'm not sure, but ucmpeg could be limited in its filesize, try to resize
your files so that they match 4:3 exactly. I think ucmpeg is what gimp
requires for the movie-plugin to wor, so try that out, it will create a
config file that works.

> imagemagick isn't fast, on my 1.3ghz athlon/768MB it takes
> 3 minutes 36 seconds to convert 18 23kb files into a 2.6meg
> animated gif.
> 
> I suppose I could recompile and turn on gif compression to
> see how much it drops in size(yeah I know about the
> LZW patent)..

 you could try mng (which is an animated png). creation is just as slow
as gif creation, and the format is not very well supported by viewer
applications.

> I'll look into mplayer as well, someone mentioned it can
> convert to AVI, ucbmpeg was easy to compile a deb, and
> mjpegtools had a downloadable deb, mplayer looks a tad
> more complicated.

Go to marillat.free.fr, there are apt-gettable mplayer packages ready for
use, what you want is mplayer-k6.

joerg

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Re: woody to testing

[Brian Nelson]

Rob Weir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Tue, Nov 12, 2002 at 06:42:35PM -0600, Shyamal Prasad wrote:
>> 2.2.2 I believe (I don't run testing, and I don't use no skeenking KDE
>> or GNOME so you don't have to trust me on that, but that is also the
>> real reason I'm happy with Woody ;-)
>
> KDE3 is apparently not going enter sid until the Great GCC3.2 Migration
> is complete, so don't hold your breath.

Actually, it should get uploaded as soon as the g++-3.2 migration
begins, since it'll need to replace the KDE currently in unstable as
part of the migration.  This will happen "soon" (like when someone
figures out what's holding back the migration).

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Realmedia's Helix Producer Basic

[lameth]

Has anyone tried realmedia's helix producer basic yet? And if you have, 
did you have any luck getting it to actually work?


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APIC error

[Hugh Saunders]

hello, i use woody with an Abit BP6 [dual cele500] but recently have started 
getting theses errors on the console and in sys log, any ideas?
Nov 14 06:33:41 nomessin kernel: APIC error on CPU0: 08(02)
Nov 14 06:34:14 nomessin kernel: APIC error on CPU1: 04(08)

hugh


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Re: changing GNU Emacs fonts in KDE 2

[Rob Weir]

On Thu, Nov 14, 2002 at 02:24:25AM +, Faheem Mitha wrote:
> Oops, I logged out and back in, and then it started working. I'm not
> sure why, though. So it looks like unchecking the checkbox did the
> trick. Does anyone have any other comments about this?

AFAIK, KDE sets these resources when it first loaded.  As an alternative
to logging out then back in again, you could have unchecked it and run
'xrdb -load ~/.Xresources'.

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Re: aptitude locked

[Rob Weir]

On Wed, Nov 13, 2002 at 10:13:10PM -0500, Seneca wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 14, 2002 at 12:08:08AM +0100, Michael Naumann wrote:
> > Last day I had a heavy crash of my woody box.
> > I suspect some misbehaviour of xmms here.
> > The whole display was very flickery and no
> > application responded any more, though I saw, that
> > gkrellm was still working. Even switching to a console (ALT-F1)
> > did not succeed. I had the the X-screen still visible, jumping
> > half a page to the left each time I hit a key.
> > Had no luck in rebooting blindly.
> 
> I've had that happen with X on my laptop. My standard method to attempt
> to get out of that state is to return to X (I tend to have num lock on
> in X, a useful indicator to show that I am at the right screen), wait
> until the load on the system is lower, change to console. If the screen
> looks either grey or normal, it worked (although grey needs the "reset"
> command)

I've had this happen a few times too.  Once you get to the
'screen-out-of-phase-by-half' stage, even the kernel is b0rked.  Magic
sysrq doesn't work, so you're left with a hardware reset.

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Re: gpg backwards compatability

[Rob Weir]

On Wed, Nov 13, 2002 at 10:05:34AM -0600, Justin Ryan wrote:
> Welp, I thoght this might be pertinent, but I am running 1.0.6 and even
> adding the line it mentions to the options file does not help.  Anyone
> have any idears?

It looks like gpg 1.0.6 simply does not support the cipcher your key is
encrypted with.  I'd say your best bet is to install gpg 1.2 from source
(either tarball or build a debian package).

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Re: XFree86

[Rob Weir]

On Wed, Nov 13, 2002 at 12:07:56PM -0800, Vince Hillier wrote:
>  
> Not only do you not tell us what you want to configure directly, you short form 
>"subject".  Did that extra second to type the three extra keys "ect"?

If you're going to be anal, then don't top post, don't use Stupid
Outlook Quote Mode (tm) and WRAP YOUR DAMN LINES.

:-)

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Re: Compiling RedHat network driver

[mdevin]

On Wed, Nov 13, 2002 at 23:00:32 -0500, Edward Guldemond wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 14, 2002 at 10:42:30AM +1000, mdevin wrote:
> > One further thing:  Obviously you don't need this kernel-headers-2.4.18
> > package to compile a 2.4.18 kernel because I didn't have it and my
> > kernel compiled OK without it.  I compiled heaps of things as modules
> > too.  That confuses me?  Why?
> > 
> 
> Part of the problem is that modversions.h is not in my kernel source
> tree.  I think that you have to turn on "set kernel version in all
> modules" for it to be in your kernel tree.  I don't do that because
> it's not necessary.  I like my kernel config as simple as possible.
>
I thought that it was better to turn on "set kernel version in all
modules" and all my kernels have been compiled with it on.  I don't
remember why I did it now, but I think the help on it gave me the
impression that it was better to do it.

Anyway, I didn't have the modversions.h anywhere until I installed
kernel-headers-2.4.18 package.

After reading the /usr/share/doc/kernel-package/README.headers file I
think I understand why the kernel-header package is required.  In
addition, I assume that the modules that are part of the kernel source
tree don't need these header files because they have the code they
comprise already in the source tree.  Only modules compiled separately
need these headers I guess.

Thanks for the help and explanation.
Mark.


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Re: alsa: no device

[Jack O'Quin]

Thaden,

Looks like you're making good progress.

> unfortunately, programs relying on alsa still don't work. alsaplayer has 
> the most eloborated error message: 
> 
> snd_pcm_open: No such file or directory (default)
> /usr/lib/alsaplayer/output/libalsa.so failed to load
> I could not find a suitable output module on your system. Make sure
> they're in "usr/lib/alsaplayer/output/".
> failed to load output add-on. exitting...

I saw something similar recently on the alsa-user mailing list.  I
think this is an incompatibility between alsaplayer 0.99.59-5 and the
current version of ALSA (0.9).  It doesn't work on my system either.

The work-around is to run alsaplayer in OSS mode like this:

   alsaplayer -o oss

> it seems to me, that i've come quite a long way, but still i can't use
> alsa.

You certainly have.  You got the driver loaded.  I think that was
probably the hard part.

Can you actually produce sound?

This will check that the native ALSA interfaces work:

   aplay /usr/share/sounds/card_shuffle.wav# (or any other sound file)

You'll probably need to set output levels with amixer or alsamixer, if
you haven't already.

You should be able to run OSS applications, too, like xmms and gqmeg.

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Re: Recovering ext3 files *with* their names (btw, 1 million files)

[nate]

judy m. down  said:
> I would like to recover as many as possible of my more than 1 million
> files in a corrupted ext3 directory, *along with their filenames*.  I
> don't mind losing half the files, as long as the other half come with
> their names.  Without the names, the contents are useless.


>
> Presumably this means recovering the directory itself, somehow.
> Any ideas?  Please reply to the list, not to me.

this means recovering the files from your backup.

there is another thread recently[1] about recovering from ext3/ext2
(or filesystems in general), your pretty much SOL in recovering
file names, recovery doesn't work that way last I checked, it recovers
files and names them according to INODE.

of course if the data is *THAT* important you can always contact
a data recovery specialist group, and for a fee(probably in the
range of $300-400/hour) you can probably get some of the data
recovered(ontrack is the only company that comes to mind, never
used such a company myself). my former company had a similar
disaster, after shipping(via moving truck) about 30 computers
accross the country, one of the most critical ones(a CVS server
for a software company) suffered damage that was not noticable.
The system came up and worked flawlessly for 2 days, then all
3 of the raid drives failed at the same time(SCSI). luckily
there was a backup.

if you didn't have a backup, let this be a lesson.

nate

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routing broadcasts

[Anton Verevkin]

Hello debian-user,

  Does anybody know how to allow broadcast UDP packets pass through a
  router (with NAT) on 2.2r2 (2.2 kernel)?

  Actually the problem concernes Samba - I have 2 networks - internal
  and external, a router with Samba server between them. I want to be
  able to see the outside computers from the inside. I know that WINS
  is the best solution but I have no administrative rigths in the
  external network. Users there use broadcasts and different
  workgroups. As my local master is set to the router machine I can see
  all these workgroups in my internal network neighborhood, but resolving
  is a problem. Static WINS records are also not a good way because
  the external network always changes.

  So I presume there's only one way - allowing broadcasts from inside
  to outside with addressed replies back.

  All your ideas are welcome.

  Thanks.

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insmod issues

[mdevin]

I am having an ongoing battle to get my network card to work.  It built
in on my ASUS A7V8X mobo and uses a broadcom 4400 driver which is on the
CD that came with the motherboard.

Now, I have the module compiled for my particular kernel version
(2.4.18).  In fact, I just recompiled my kernel and the module.

When I insmod the module I get a heap of unresolved symbol errors:
shark:/home/mark/src/broadcom4400/src# insmod bcm4400.o
bcm4400.o: unresolved symbol skb_over_panic_Rsmp_2344b59d
bcm4400.o: unresolved symbol free_irq_Rsmp_f20dabd8
bcm4400.o: unresolved symbol pci_register_driver_Rsmp_465aa46c
bcm4400.o: unresolved symbol kernel_flag_Rsmp_a99dd800
bcm4400.o: unresolved symbol __netdev_watchdog_up_Rsmp_46dac5dd
bcm4400.o: unresolved symbol alloc_skb_Rsmp_20791234
... and several more ...

now if I grep /proc/ksyms for these, I get:
shark:/home/mark/src/broadcom4400/src# grep skb_over_panic /proc/ksyms
c01d29e0 skb_over_panic_R63ad16de
shark:/home/mark/src/broadcom4400/src# grep free_irq /proc/ksyms
c0107f64 free_irq_Rf20dabd8
shark:/home/mark/src/broadcom4400/src# grep __netdev_watchdog_up /proc/ksyms
c01dc410 __netdev_watchdog_up_R62a4f6c8
... and so on ...

I know I must be close to getting this module to load since the symbols
look the same apart from the "R" in front of the ending code, except for
the netdev one (and possibly others).  Aaaarggh!

Am I on the right track here?  How do I get this mongrel module to load?

Cheers.
Mark.


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Re: address book for mutt

[Sandip P Deshmukh]

On Wed, Nov 13, 2002 at 10:28:29AM -0500, Matthew Weier O'Phinney wrote:
> Do you still have the address book on your windows machine? Is it
> possible to export the addresses as vCards? If so, it might make sense
> for you to do so, and then import them into gnomecard (in deb package
> gnome-pim). lbdb (little brother database) has conduits for gnomecard,
> which means that you could use lbdb to grab addresses from gnomecard for
> mutt. (I use lbdb with the palm modules to grab addresses synced from my
> palm by jpilot -- it's seamless, fast, and very useful.)

this seems interesting and i am working on it. in the meantime, will this mean that i 
will have to have my X running all the time? often, i do not have X running while i 
check my mails!

cheers,

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Re: Compiling RedHat network driver

[Edward Guldemond]

On Wed, Nov 13, 2002 at 10:46:24PM -0600, Shyamal Prasad wrote:
> 
> "mdevin" == mdevin  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> mdevin> One further thing: Obviously you don't need this
> mdevin> kernel-headers-2.4.18 package to compile a 2.4.18 kernel
> mdevin> because I didn't have it and my kernel compiled OK without
> mdevin> it.  I compiled heaps of things as modules too.  That
> mdevin> confuses me?  Why?
> 
> Look in  /usr/share/doc/kernel-package/README.headers for a long,
> detailed explanation.
> 
> Cheers!
> Shyamal

Just found that.  Interesting read if you care at all about the issue
(which I do).

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Re: [OT] Moving away from KDE to what?

[Sandip P Deshmukh]

On Wed, Nov 13, 2002 at 06:46:46AM -0700, Dan Owens wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Nov 2002, Chip Rose wrote:
> 
> Another thing you might want to check is if your hard drive needs dma
> turned on.  What speed does "hdparm -t /dev/hda" give you?

/dev/hda:
 Timing buffered disk reads:  64 MB in 18.06 seconds =  3.54 MB/sec

do i need to turn dma on?

>  Most of the
> debian kernels don't have dma turned on and will give very poor perfomance
> with data transfers, starting programs, etc.  Windows turns dma on by
> defualt.

and how do i turn it on? once turned on, will it always remain turned on or will i 
have to turn on?

thanx

sandip p deshmukh
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Re: X 4.2 byting more than I can allow it to chew

[Eric G. Miller]

On Wed, Nov 13, 2002 at 11:44:39PM -0500, Seneca wrote:
> Over the past 10 days, I have noticed that X 4.2.1-3 has been gradually
> eating up more and more of my system's memory and swap. In the
> beginning, the XFree86 process only used about 26M, but today it had
> reached the point of using 70M (that is alot of swap, my system only has
> 192M of it).
> 
> Any suggestions on keeping the memory and swap usage down (I already
> avoid desktop environments and other heavy GUI tools)?

Are you running any kind of program that repaints the root window?  They
tend to be common culprits in memory leakage.

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Re: Compiling RedHat network driver

[Bob Nielsen]

On Thu, Nov 14, 2002 at 10:42:30AM +1000, mdevin wrote:
> 
> One further thing:  Obviously you don't need this kernel-headers-2.4.18
> package to compile a 2.4.18 kernel because I didn't have it and my
> kernel compiled OK without it.  I compiled heaps of things as modules
> too.  That confuses me?  Why?

This is because the kernel source includes the headers.


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Re: Compiling RedHat network driver

[Shyamal Prasad]

"mdevin" == mdevin  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

mdevin> One further thing: Obviously you don't need this
mdevin> kernel-headers-2.4.18 package to compile a 2.4.18 kernel
mdevin> because I didn't have it and my kernel compiled OK without
mdevin> it.  I compiled heaps of things as modules too.  That
mdevin> confuses me?  Why?

Look in  /usr/share/doc/kernel-package/README.headers for a long,
detailed explanation.

Cheers!
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Re: Apache (PHP not working)

[Michelle Storm]

> Install the new kernel, the reboot into it.  Run 'depmod' and
> 'update-modules', then you can run modconf and select your Ethernet
> driver.  It's called '8139too' and it should be in 'kernel/drivers/net'
> section.

I didn't compile the kernel myself. I just choose the one I wanted
from dselect. So will that still work?



> Open up /etc/apache/httpd.conf and make the following changes:
> * uncomment the 'LoadModule php4...' line
> * add 'index.php' to the end of the DirectoryIndex line in the
>   '' section
> * uncomment the 'AddType' lines, right where it tells you to do so (you
>   want the php4 set, not the php3 ones).
> 
> Tell apache to reload it's config files (/etc/init.d/apache reload), and
> you should be done.

Not trying to be rude, but I attached all the pertaining files. I don't
remember if I said I already did all that in the original email, but I
figured people would at least read the entire message (including
attachments) before they continue stating things that I've already
checked.

Now as to your suggestiones:

1) I've done all that, it's all there, all of it is setup correctly, it
SHOULD be working, but it's not. and I don't know why.

2) I've gone so far as to PURGE all packages that have "apache" or "php"
in them. Then I reinstalled just the minimum required to get apache
running again. Then I added all the apache modules I was interested in.
Then I added the "php" packages. (between the purge and the install's I
even restarted my computer)

3) I've checked all my config files against my roommates setup. Mine are
identical (EXCEPT) that mine has a few more things in it. Mostly to do
with "phpmyadmin" and "phppgadmin"  (HIS WORKS) mine doesn't.


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Re: dockable apps for icewm?

[Rob Weir]

On Wed, Nov 13, 2002 at 05:08:04PM +0100, Jens Grivolla wrote:
> I am currently using blackbox on one of my computers with the default
> theme + bbkey, licq and gkrellm in the slit.  While licq and gkrellm
> need a certain width to be usable (no tiny mode), I don't feel that
> the screen gets too cluttered (and it looks cool ;).

Putting gkrellm in a topleft aligned slit, with auto-hiding and
always-on-top enabled works well for me.  To skip XMMS forward or check
if I have mail. I just through my mouse pointer up the topleft corner
and gkrellm reappears in all it's blinkenlight glory.

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X 4.2 byting more than I can allow it to chew

[Seneca]

Over the past 10 days, I have noticed that X 4.2.1-3 has been gradually
eating up more and more of my system's memory and swap. In the
beginning, the XFree86 process only used about 26M, but today it had
reached the point of using 70M (that is alot of swap, my system only has
192M of it).

Any suggestions on keeping the memory and swap usage down (I already
avoid desktop environments and other heavy GUI tools)?

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Re: Unsuscribe

[Oliver Fuchs]

On Wed, 13 Nov 2002, deFreese, Barry wrote:

> I know, it's the next Microsoft consipiracy!!  Hehe, sorry, couldn't resist
> that one!!

Maybe "unsuscribe" is a new Microsoft Windows Office Program:

UNSU - Illiterate Outlook for unsu peaople.

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Re: ot: german isp's

[Oliver Fuchs]

On Thu, 14 Nov 2002, ben wrote:

> can anybody recommend a cheap linux-friendly isp in germany?
> 
> ben
> 

Freenet


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Re: maxtrox fb issue

[Tom Vier]

On Wed, Nov 13, 2002 at 10:57:54AM +1100, Rob Weir wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 01:44:34AM -0500, Tom Vier wrote:
> > i have a REALLY weird fb issue. tty2 (or vc2, whatever you want to
> > call it) is screwed up. 1, 3, 4, etc. all work. but, when i switch to 2, my
> > monitor says invalid sync. this is from a fresh boot, before running x11. my
> 
> Are you running sid?  There's a thread on debian-devel right now about
> something causing VT problems in unstable.  I don't think it's been
> resolved yet, or even narrowed down to a particular package.

nope, stable. if, after rebooting, i just do open -c 3, it doesn't happen.
it's strictly tied to vc2. never happened on my other alpha, using the same
card and the same kernels.

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Re: Need help ?

[Seneca]

On Thu, Nov 14, 2002 at 11:23:36AM +1100, Rob Weir wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 12, 2002 at 09:22:20PM -0500, Robert L. Harris wrote:
> > dpkg -i wvdial~1.deb
> 
> Does dpkg care about the filename?  It looks like FAT ate his .deb.

No (going by observation), I think dpkg gets the package name from
control (within control.tar.gz (within foo.deb))

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Re: Apache (PHP not working)

[Rob Weir]

On Wed, Nov 13, 2002 at 03:32:15AM -0800, Michelle Storm wrote:
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> A little background.
> 
> jade@dragon:~$ uname -a
> Linux dragon.ursine.dyndns.org 2.4.18-bf2.4 #1 Son Apr 14 09:53:28 CEST 2002 i686 
>unknown unknown GNU/Linux
> 
> **I would be using the newest kernel: 2.4.19-k7, except that I don't
> know how to install a module to run my network card which uses 8139
> drivers.**

Install the new kernel, the reboot into it.  Run 'depmod' and
'update-modules', then you can run modconf and select your Ethernet
driver.  It's called '8139too' and it should be in 'kernel/drivers/net'
section.

> Last time all I had to do was fix the mime.types
> this time they are correct (that I can tell)
> 
> I've done everything I can think of. (I was using apache2, found out
> that php doesn't work with apache2 yet.. so installed apache again.
> 
> Then I removed everything related to apache and php
> then I installed apache and php
> 
> it still gives me the exact error above.
> 
> My php files work on roomates apache and as far as I can tell.. mine is
> setup nearly identical to his. So I don't know what's wrong.
> 
> 
> 1) I have used /etc/init.d/apache restart (stop, start)
> 2) I have tried /etc/init.d/apachectl restart (stop, start)
> 3) I have restarted my computer completely
> 4) removed apache and php packages
> 5) reinstalled apache and php packages
> 6) retried steps 1 - 3.
> 
> Still not working. So now I'm asking for any help I can get. This has
> stumped me. And my roommate refuses to help.

Open up /etc/apache/httpd.conf and make the following changes:
* uncomment the 'LoadModule php4...' line
* add 'index.php' to the end of the DirectoryIndex line in the
  '' section
* uncomment the 'AddType' lines, right where it tells you to do so (you
  want the php4 set, not the php3 ones).

Tell apache to reload it's config files (/etc/init.d/apache reload), and
you should be done.

-rob



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Re: repost - printing - help please

[Rob Weir]

On Wed, Nov 13, 2002 at 11:12:01AM +0530, Sandip P Deshmukh wrote:
> works okay when i am root.
> 
> when i am a user, it prints, bash: /dev/lp0 access denied!
> 
> do i change permissions on /dev/lp0 or add the user to some group?

Which group owns /dev/lp0?

rob@leserver:~$ ls -Ll /dev/lp0
crw-rw1 root lp 6,   0 Jan  1  1970 /dev/lp0

Add yourself to the 'lp' group and you should be all set.

-rob



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Re: unstabe to testing [was: Re: woody to testing]

[Rob Weir]

On Tue, Nov 12, 2002 at 04:36:49PM -0600, Gerald Livingston wrote:
> Is it possible to slowly revert to testing from unstable by just
> changing the sources.list and essentially having no upgraded packages
> found until they have propagated down the tree?

Yep.  Just point your sources.list at testing, and you'll gradually
drift down to the level of testing.  Bear in mind though, that some
things in unstable aren't going to reach testing anytime soon, so you'll
be high and dry with them, not getting any updates at all.

Other than that, there should be no problems.  If you find you want to
keep some things at unstable level (like GNOME2 or Mozilla) then search
the debian-user archives for 'apt pinning' to find out how.

-rob



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RE: Need help ?

[Vince Hillier]

 
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No, it doesn't.

Yea, that's how FAT got FAT. ;)

Vince Hillier
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|Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 4:24 PM
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|On Tue, Nov 12, 2002 at 09:22:20PM -0500, Robert L. Harris wrote:
|> dpkg -i wvdial~1.deb
|
|Does dpkg care about the filename?  It looks like FAT ate his .deb.
|
|-rob

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Re: automatic shutdown on heat problem

[Rob Weir]

On Wed, Nov 13, 2002 at 10:41:28AM +0100, Sven Hartrumpf wrote:
> What is the best way to shutdown (power off) automatically a Linux box when
> the temperature (on motherboard) rises to a critical value due to fan
> (or AC, ...) failure?
> 
> (I am sure more people have lost hardware in such situations.)

Setup lm-sensors so that you can access all the information your
motherboard is generating.  Then get sensord and set it up to shut
things down or idle or whatever you want when temp values (or fan rpms)
get to dangerous levels.

-rob



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Looking for a backup to CD-R(W) program

[Joe Nahmias]

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	I am looking for recommendations for software to backup my
debian (sarge) machine to my cd burner.  As this is my home machine, I
don't think I need the client-server functionality of amanda or some of
the other backup packages... I'm just looking for something that can do
full and incremental backups of selected filesystems to CD in a quick
and simple manner.

Thanks for your help!

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Re: Upgrading kernels...

[Rob Weir]

On Wed, Nov 13, 2002 at 09:50:26AM -0800, Vince Hillier wrote:
> I recall a couple of years ago hearing about loading new kernel
> without actually rebooting.  But it was new then, and you actually did
> have to reboot, it just skipped the POST and what not.
> 
> Has anything been done in this area since then?  I would like to keep
> my uptimes, but kernel upgrades are becoming very imminent.

Donald Becker wrote 'two-kernel monte' which does this sort of thing,
but since the new kernel has new interfaces and overwrites the previous
ones' data space, you'll lose all counters (including uptime).

-rob



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Re: woody to testing

[Rob Weir]

On Tue, Nov 12, 2002 at 06:42:35PM -0600, Shyamal Prasad wrote:
> 2.2.2 I believe (I don't run testing, and I don't use no skeenking KDE
> or GNOME so you don't have to trust me on that, but that is also the
> real reason I'm happy with Woody ;-)

KDE3 is apparently not going enter sid until the Great GCC3.2 Migration
is complete, so don't hold your breath.  There are numerous 'unofficial'
(some of which are created by the Debian KDE maintainers and even hosted
on people.debian.org) archives out there; join the debian-kde mailing
list for more details and discussion.

-rob



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Re: SUBSCRIBE

[Oliver Fuchs]

On Wed, 13 Nov 2002, Dmitry E. Oboukhov wrote:

> Sergey A. Ovchar wrote:
> 
> >Hello ,
> >
> > 
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> > 
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> 
> man procamil
> 
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man /dev/null - burn.

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Recovering ext3 files *with* their names (btw, 1 million files)

[judy m. down]

I would like to recover as many as possible of my more than 1 million
files in a corrupted ext3 directory, *along with their filenames*.  I
don't mind losing half the files, as long as the other half come with
their names.  Without the names, the contents are useless.

Presumably this means recovering the directory itself, somehow.
Any ideas?  Please reply to the list, not to me.

The history is:

I am using 2.4.19ac4 and have 2 60GB disks with software RAID
mirroring running ext3.

I just upgraded from debian woody to debian sarge, and in the process
of trying to fix an X Windows problem caused by that (still not
working: screwy mouse, weird pointer, no gnome-terminal :-(), I probably
pressed the reset button once. fs checking only runs every few reboots.

Upon rebooting (which FWIW is done via a GRUB floppy because my kernel
doesn't load for some reason) filesystems were checked.
/dev/md3 had problems, and I was advised to run fsck.

Upon running fsck, I was warned in capital letters, didn't know what I
was doing, so typed n to exit.  But fsck continued anyway, apparently
thinking that no means yes.  (In any case, I'm pretty sure the fs was
not mounted.)

It informed me that there is a problem with a directory that I happen
to know contains more than a million files.  My answers were probably
inconsistent because I didn't know what I was doing, but I think I
said no to the directory and yes to a bunch of files.  Eventually,
knowing that the files would go on forever, I hit ^C.

lost+found contains several files, presumably those I answered yes to,
but the files are numbered.  The contents of the files are useless to
me without the original filenames, because the whole directory is a
cache.  It would take a month of continuous running to replenish the
cache, so I would like to recover the filenames and contents together
(although I don't mind losing a bunch of files if I get most of them).
The directory is visible when the fs is mounted, but it causes an error
when it is entered.

How do I do this?  Or should I give up and just run fsck with the
force option and answer yes to everything, then just delete the
million useless lost+found files -- perfect contents, perfectly
useless without filenames?

And for the future, should I have let the directory grow that large?
Or does ext3 have a limit to bug-free operation? Should I mess with trying
other filesystems (reiser? i'm afraid to create a new partition or try a
new fs after these upgrade problems) just for this directory?

Thanks!
(P.S. Anybody know why the default mga driver doesn't work with an LCD
screen and how to debug an X problem? I see some error about glide2, FWIW.
I just run regular gdm and regular gnome.)




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Re: [OT] Moving away from KDE to what?

[Rob Weir]

On Wed, Nov 13, 2002 at 01:54:57AM +0100, Benedict Verheyen wrote:
> I recently installed blackbox once and couldn't seem to get much going
> until i did "apt-get install menu". it provides the update-menus command
> and helped me in getting more stuff accessible via the popup menu.

Ah, yes.  menu is one of the niftiest things about Debian. 

> I haven't however (in the short time that i played with blackbox) figured
> out how to change the desktop image for instance but what can you
> expect if you just installed it :-)

Run bsetroot in your ~/.xsession.

-rob



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Re: Need help ?

[Rob Weir]

On Tue, Nov 12, 2002 at 09:22:20PM -0500, Robert L. Harris wrote:
> dpkg -i wvdial~1.deb

Does dpkg care about the filename?  It looks like FAT ate his .deb.

-rob



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Re: export DISPLAY / remote Xclient?

[sean finney]

hiya,

security-wise, this isn't the greatest of ideas for a few reasons.
first of all, can you ssh to this hp-ux machine instead of telneting?
it goes without saying why that's bad.  in addition, forwarding x
in the clear is not a good idea, because it's only slightly more
complicated to sniff out keystrokes than telnet.  if you can use ssh,
you can do

$ ssh -X your.host.name

which will automatically forward x through the same secure tunnel that
you're using for your safely encrypted login session.

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Re: java plugin for mozilla; mozilla crashes

[Erinn]

Actually, you can't place the plugins directly in your Mozilla plugin
directory. You have to make a symbolic link in your Mozilla plugin
directory to the plugin. Otherwise it will always crash. 

This is for Galeon but that's +/- Mozilla anyways.
http://216.239.51.100/search?q=cache:HBXmPx1tLfcC:galeon.sourceforge.net/support/answers.php


 On Wed, 2002-11-13 at 20:40, george wrote:
> Hi I have a problem with the java plugin in mozilla: I installed the sun 
> jvm 1.4.1; copied the java plugin for ns610 in the appropriate mozilla 
> plugin directory; when I look at the plugin info page of mozilla the 
> usual list of java plugin capabilities, just like it worked. But as I 
> open a web site with any java application mozilla self shuts down. I 
> can't understand why...
> Anyone knows what I can do?
> I am running debian  sid, mozilla 1.1
> Thanks
> 
> Marco Giorgetta

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Re: Software Selection Internet Admin School

[John]

Dan Hunt wrote:


Would you please consider making suggestions for a school?
Inside the school youth log with usernames in a M$ enviroment. 
I have been asked to suggest software / equipment that would: 
A) Provide firewall services. B) Log ( capture ) the username 
and website visited. C) Report this information.
Most of these schools have DSL and only one has dialup.

I do not know enough about network admin to know what debian 
packages to look at. Does a Log Server 
http://debianplanet.org/node.php?id=847 do the right job 
for logging and reporting?

The "Microsoft Network Administrator" felt that by trimming 
(somehow) the information the workstation info could be left 
out and ONLY the username and website address could be reported. 

For Example: 
Nov 22 2002 09:15 | davey-smith | barbie.com
Nov 22 2002 09:22 | davey-smith | bay-watch-girls.com

Any URL donated will be gratefully evaluated.


 

I think you'll want to match IPs with user network logins somehow - You 
will probably want to use the LOG target for iptables, perhaps a little 
mysql DB on your log host (not on the firewall/router/proxy)and a script 
to generate reports/another logfile that matches last known user to 
login to that IP to page viststed - note that this doesnt necesarily(sp) 
identify who browsed to that page, just who last logged into that 
workstation...

Then again I could just be full of it.

John P Foster



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RE: Need help ?

[Vince Hillier]

 
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After dealing with new users over the years, you learn real fast to pick out what 
people are actually asking, sure, if you read it and take it for what it is, and not 
what the user actually meant, you are correct.

Take a minute and ask yourself "would this user possibly have a use for a 
control.tar.gz and data.tar.gz file?"  Your answer should be no.  It should be clear 
by the question that the user has no idea what the heck to do with a .deb file.

Now if he asked "How can I access the contents of of .deb file" then yes, they may or 
may not what to access the actual .tar.gz files.

Vince Hillier
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|From: Pigeon [mailto:jah.pigeon@;ukonline.co.uk]
|Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 2:26 PM
|To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|Subject: Re: Need help ?
|
|On Tue, 12 Nov 2002 21:22:20 -0500, "Robert L. Harris"
|<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> top-posted so I humbly edited it:
|>Thus spake Cyberthor ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
|>
|>> Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 18:15:48 -0800
|>> From: Cyberthor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
|>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|>> Subject: Need  help ?
|>> X-Mailing-List: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> archive/latest/244950
|>>
|>> Hello
|>> How do I open a .deb file in Debian Linux  of  wvdial~ 1.deb ?
|>>   thank , Cyber
|>>
|>
|>dpkg -i wvdial~1.deb
|>
|
|That's how you _install_ it. If by "open" you mean "see what's in it"
|then ar -x foo.deb extracts control.tar.gz and data.tar.gz which you
|can read in the obvious way. See people's replies to my "Fik question
|about Debian source packages" and "Manual ldconfig required HELP!!!"
|especially the URLs of Debian FAQs therein.
|
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Re: argh! aptitude/dselect/apt-get dieing????

[Brian Nelson]

iain d broadfoot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> apt-get: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3:
> cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
>
> same thing for dselect and aptitude.

And for every other C++ program you have...

> any thoughts??

Beat maintainers who don't at least minimally test their packages before
uploading.

The problem is simply that the library file was misnamed to
libstdc++libc6.2-2.so.3.

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Re: Compiling RedHat network driver

[Edward Guldemond]

On Thu, Nov 14, 2002 at 10:42:30AM +1000, mdevin wrote:
> One further thing:  Obviously you don't need this kernel-headers-2.4.18
> package to compile a 2.4.18 kernel because I didn't have it and my
> kernel compiled OK without it.  I compiled heaps of things as modules
> too.  That confuses me?  Why?
> 

Part of the problem is that modversions.h is not in my kernel source
tree.  I think that you have to turn on "set kernel version in all
modules" for it to be in your kernel tree.  I don't do that because
it's not necessary.  I like my kernel config as simple as possible.

Just my two cents,

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Re: export DISPLAY / remote Xclient?

[nate]

arief_mulya said:
> Dear all,
>
>
> I install Debian Woody in my laptop which works perfectly!
>
> Something I haven't able to accomplish is:
> - telnet to a HP-UX machine
> - do export DISPLAY=my.host.name:0.0
> - type a program name

you need to turn off the nolisten option for the X server

quick way to find the file

grep -nri "nolisten tcp" /etc/*

and remove any instances of that option, restart your X server(and your
display manager if your using one). telnet to localhost 6000 to be
sure it connects, after that it should work. also be sure
to xhost +hostname_of_hpux_box on the debian side.

nate




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Printing to Xerox DC400

[arief_mulya]

Dear all,


Another question,

In the office we use Xerox DC400 as printing machnine.
I've read Linux Printing HOWTO and even gone to the website. 
Read some stuff, but still don't get it. Actually, I think I 
don't get it at all. Still get used to Wind*** ways of 
printer installations :-(

I have install lpd and foomatic.
Should I use cups instead?

Any clues would be much appreciated.

Best Regards,

arief_mulya
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Re: can't find startx after installing Xserver-Xfree86

[Brian Nelson]

Nimar Arora <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hi,
>
> I installed Debian - Woody - stable on an x86 machine
> and then installed the package XServer-Xfree86 and
> walked through all the configuration steps. At the end
> when I executed startx it couldn't find the command!
> What else do I need to install?

Sounds like you're going about installing X the hard way.  Try reading
this stuff and see if it helps:

http://qref.sourceforge.net/Debian/reference/ch-tune.en.html#s-x-system

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RE: Software Selection Internet Admin School

[Vince Hillier]

 
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I assume you are requesting suggestions for a linux based router?

For firewalling, if you are running a 2.2 kernel, look into ipchains, if you are 
running 2.4 look into iptables.  There is a lot of firewall generator programs out 
there - gaurddog, firestarter, ferm, etc... these can make setting up a firewall for 
the timid easier.

For logging the username, you're going to have to use some sort of "sniffer" on the 
router box, dsniff, tcpdump, ngrep, etc...  You could also setup a proxy that records 
the required information - I don't have any examples on hand...

For reporting this information you could simply grep a log to find what you want, then 
mail it to [EMAIL PROTECTED], this is done easily with crontab.

As for the log server paper, that is not what you want, what that paper discusses is 
setting up a remote syslogd server, to obtain all syslog traffic on a network from 
various hosts on the network, although the document also has a lot of hardening tips.

Vince Hillier
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|Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 5:58 PM
|To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|Subject: Software Selection Internet Admin School
|
|Would you please consider making suggestions for a school?
|Inside the school youth log with usernames in a M$ enviroment.
|I have been asked to suggest software / equipment that would:
|A) Provide firewall services. B) Log ( capture ) the username
|and website visited. C) Report this information.
|Most of these schools have DSL and only one has dialup.
|
|I do not know enough about network admin to know what debian
|packages to look at. Does a Log Server
|http://debianplanet.org/node.php?id=847 do the right job
|for logging and reporting?
|
|The "Microsoft Network Administrator" felt that by trimming
|(somehow) the information the workstation info could be left
|out and ONLY the username and website address could be reported.
|
|For Example:
|Nov 22 2002 09:15 | davey-smith | barbie.com
|Nov 22 2002 09:22 | davey-smith | bay-watch-girls.com
|
|Any URL donated will be gratefully evaluated.
|
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Re: Upgrading to XFree 4.2.1-3

[Joshua Lee]

On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 11:09:15PM +, Richard Kimber wrote:
> I upgraded.  It works fine, though the upgrade wasn't entirely smooth, and
> I only got it working by restoring the previous config, so having a backup
> is clearly important.  There were some font differences, but they were
> minor - I don't know much about fonts.

If you're using true-type fonts the debian package handles them 
differently now using defoma, so you'll need to update your 
configuration files Accordingly. If you don't already have it, 
install the x-ttcidfont-conf package, then read the docs.


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export DISPLAY / remote Xclient?

[arief_mulya]

Dear all,


I install Debian Woody in my laptop which works perfectly!

Something I haven't able to accomplish is:
- telnet to a HP-UX machine
- do export DISPLAY=my.host.name:0.0
- type a program name

everytime I get error message like this (from the HP-UX):
/usr/bin/X11/xrdb: Connection refused
/usr/bin/X11/xrdb: Can't open display '10.1.92.57:0.0'

I 've tried: xhost hpux.host.name, before telnet.
Won't work also.

Anything I miss?


Best Regards,

arief_mulya
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I want to find a Chinese (Big5) text input solution

[steven]

Dear all:
 
I am a Taiwanese telecom manufacturer. I am looking for a Big5 Chinese 
text input solution for Chinese SMS phone. Which means that the total size of 
hte solution has to be less than 100 KB beacause it's not for PC but 
for telephone.
 
If anyone who's got some idea, please tell me.
 
All the best,
 
Steven Chen    
 

Re: [OT] Debian NetBSD

[Mark L. Kahnt]

On Wed, 2002-11-13 at 22:16, Colin Watson wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 13, 2002 at 09:31:53PM -0500, Mark L. Kahnt wrote:
> > On Wed, 2002-11-13 at 14:54, Todd Marek wrote:
> > > has anyone here used Debian NetBSD yet?  if so how does it compare to 
> > > debian linux?
> > 
> > Not that I've used it, but I thought it had been tripped up some due to
> > certain core parts being under a BSD license that proves to be not
> > exactly free,
> 
> s/free/GPL-compatible/
> 
> That said, I don't think this is a major stumbling block.
> 
> I know one of the guys working on Debian GNU/NetBSD, and have watched
> him hacking on it on occasion; it works in the sense that it boots, runs
> a reasonable installation of standard packages, and he can use it. I
> don't think anybody's claiming it's ready for general use in the same
> way Debian GNU/Linux is, though.
> 
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Some more tasty sole-of-foot there on my part - when you deal with the
GPL in the middle of so much of what you are dealing with, sometimes I
slip-up and equate GPL-compatibility with a definition of free. It does
make it awkward when being free doesn't mean being able to work together
due to incompatibilities :(

All that said, there is much chatter on Debian-BSD that there is a drive
to release as part of the next release cycle - that it would be a
release of Debian GNU, with a choice of underlying kernels and libs.
Similar rumbling arises on the Debian-Hurd list, but I get the
impression that some more work is needed there.
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Re: /var/lib/dpkg/alternatives

[Jerome Acks Jr]

On Wed, Nov 13, 2002 at 04:21:59AM +, Pigeon wrote:
> Well I've got round my ldconfig problems. Eventually I found
> base2_1.tgz on my Debian CD, unzipped it on my Windoze box, wrote it
> to a CD, and copied stuff in using the rescue disk. With the addition
> of some of the rescue disk itself (fsck) I got an ldconfig, and got it
> to boot again, after several false starts. I then used dpkg -i to
> reinstall most of the stuff in main/binary-i386/base which got most
> stuff working, including dselect.
> 
> I'm now using dselect to reinstall pretty much everything and get the
> system back into a consistent state. I have got a few errors on some
> packages due to /var/lib/dpkg/alternatives/foo being corrupt. (eg. foo
> = awk)
> 
> Is it permissible simply to delete these files? Will I risk breaking
> the whole thing again? If so, how do I restore them?

See man update-alternatives to see how you would normally modify files
in /var/lib/dpkg/alternatives. I am not sure if anything would break
if you just delete the files. 

The files in /var/lib/dpkg/alternatives are ascii text, so you could edit
them with vi, emacs, bvi, or any text editor. I would suggest bvi or
ghex so you can see what nonprintable are in the files. 

Here is a couple of examples (vi & emacs) of what files in
/var/lib/dpkg/alternatives look like. These would be different on you
computer depending on what packages you have installed. 

$ cat /var/lib/dpkg/alternatives/vi
manual
/usr/bin/vi
vi.1.gz
/usr/share/man/man1/vi.1.gz

/usr/bin/nvi
30
/usr/share/man/man1/nvi.1.gz
/usr/bin/vim
120
/usr/share/man/man1/vim.1.gz
/usr/bin/elvisnox
120
/usr/share/man/man1/elvis.1.gz
/bin/elvis-tiny
10
/usr/share/man/man1/elvis-tiny.1.gz
/usr/bin/e3vi
10
/usr/share/man/man1/e3vi.1.gz

$ cat /var/lib/dpkg/alternatives/emacs  
auto
/usr/bin/emacs
emacs.1.gz
/usr/share/man/man1/emacs.1.gz

/usr/bin/emacs21
24
/usr/share/man/man1/emacs.1emacs21.gz
/usr/bin/e3em
10
/usr/share/man/man1/e3em.1.gz
/usr/bin/emacs20
23
/usr/share/man/man1/emacs.1emacs20.gz

The first line of the /var/lib/dpkg/alternatives/foo is mode.
Second line is the alternative command symlink.
Third line refers to filename in /etc/alternatives/
Fourth line is man symlink.
Fifth line is single LF (hex 0A, '\n')

The remaining lines are various alternative commands, priorities, and
associated man pages. The file ends with two LFs.

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Re: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3 after apt-get upgrade today from unstable included incorrect symlink?

[Greg Madden]

On Wednesday 13 November 2002 04:50 pm, Ravenhall wrote:
> Package: libstdc++3
> Version: 1:3.0.4-13
>
> After running a dist-upgrade today from unstable, several programs
> (including apt-cache, apt-get, and mozilla) would give the following
> error when attempting to launch them from a console:
>
> error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3:
> cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
>
> I checked out /usr/lib, and found that
> /usr/lib/libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3 indeed did not exist. I
> guesstimated from the existing symlinks that this should be linked to
> /usr/lib/libstdc++-3libc6.2-2-2.10.0.so. I created the link with (as
> root):
> ln -s /usr/lib/libstdc++-3libc6.2-2-2.10.0.so
> /usr/lib/libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3
>
>   This then allowed me to use my programs as normal.
> There IS a similar link in /usr/lib, namely:
>
> /usr/lib/libstdc++libc6.2-2.so.3, linked to
> libstdc++-3libc6.2-2-2.10.0.so
>
> as well as:
> /usr/lib/libstdc++libc6.2-2.a.3, linked to
> libstdc++-3libc6.2-2-2.10.0.a
>
>   Is it possible that these symlinks were typos? It appears that
> libstdc++ in both of these links should have been written as
> libstdc++- so I believe that these are typos.
snip
> Thanks,
>   Nathan Waddell

Something of the sort happened here. I grabed Evolution1.2 7 Gimp1.3 + 
depends and i get a similar error message. The difference I see between 
my unstable box & woody box is the syntax? of the linked file

woody:  libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3 -> libstdc++-3-libc6.2-2-2.10.0.so
unstable: libstdc++libc6.2-2.so.3 -> libstdc++-3libc6.2-2-2.10.0.so

there may be other differences but what is the significants of the 
additional (-) after libstdc++ in the woody example? 


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Re: XFree86

[Scott Henson]

On Wed, 2002-11-13 at 20:56, Sergey A. Ovchar wrote:
> Hello.
> How can I turn off automatic start X-server after booting the system?
> 
apt-get remove xdm kdm gdm wdm


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Re: XFree86

[Seneca]

On Thu, Nov 14, 2002 at 04:56:27AM +0300, Sergey A. Ovchar wrote:
> How can I turn off automatic start X-server after booting the system?

apt-get remove --purge xdm (or gdm or kdm)

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Re: XFree86

[nate]

Sergey A. Ovchar said:
> Hello.
> How can I turn off automatic start X-server after booting the system?

first find out what display manager is installed:

dpkg -l | grep "[xgk]dm"

something like xdm, kdm or gdm should come back, then do

update-rc.d -f gdm remove

where gdm is the display manager your using. this will remove
the symlinks so it won't load on boot. you can restore it by
doing something like

update-rc.d gdm defaults

where gdm is the display manager your using

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ot: german isp's

[ben]

can anybody recommend a cheap linux-friendly isp in germany?

ben


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Re: aptitude locked

[Seneca]

On Thu, Nov 14, 2002 at 12:08:08AM +0100, Michael Naumann wrote:
> Last day I had a heavy crash of my woody box.
> I suspect some misbehaviour of xmms here.
> The whole display was very flickery and no
> application responded any more, though I saw, that
> gkrellm was still working. Even switching to a console (ALT-F1)
> did not succeed. I had the the X-screen still visible, jumping
> half a page to the left each time I hit a key.
> Had no luck in rebooting blindly.

I've had that happen with X on my laptop. My standard method to attempt
to get out of that state is to return to X (I tend to have num lock on
in X, a useful indicator to show that I am at the right screen), wait
until the load on the system is lower, change to console. If the screen
looks either grey or normal, it worked (although grey needs the "reset"
command)

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Re: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3 after apt-get upgrade today from unstable included incorrect symlink?

[Colin Watson]

On Wed, Nov 13, 2002 at 07:50:49PM -0600, Ravenhall wrote:
> I want this bug report to get to the correct maintainer, so I am mailing 
> it to the debian-user mailing list as well as the bug submission email.

When you do this, please use the X-Debbugs-Cc: header rather than just
mailing both submit@bugs and debian-user@lists, so that a bug number
gets assigned before the mail is forwarded to debian-user. See
.

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Re: mutt and Mozilla mail

[Matthew Daubenspeck]

On Wed, Nov 13, 2002 at 08:59:32PM -0600, Gianfranco Berardi wrote:
> I like Mozilla mail, but sometimes I am at work and I would like to be 
> able to access my mail through the command line.
> Well I find Mutt should do its job just fine, but what I also find is 
> Mozilla will seem to get confused with the mailbox in question once I 
> use Mutt on it.
> If I select a a message, Mozilla mail will display the wrong email.
> Has anyone else experienced this/found a fix?

How exactly are you accessing the mail? Local, POP3, IMAP?


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Re: [OT] Debian NetBSD

[Colin Watson]

On Wed, Nov 13, 2002 at 09:31:53PM -0500, Mark L. Kahnt wrote:
> On Wed, 2002-11-13 at 14:54, Todd Marek wrote:
> > has anyone here used Debian NetBSD yet?  if so how does it compare to 
> > debian linux?
> 
> Not that I've used it, but I thought it had been tripped up some due to
> certain core parts being under a BSD license that proves to be not
> exactly free,

s/free/GPL-compatible/

That said, I don't think this is a major stumbling block.

I know one of the guys working on Debian GNU/NetBSD, and have watched
him hacking on it on occasion; it works in the sense that it boots, runs
a reasonable installation of standard packages, and he can use it. I
don't think anybody's claiming it's ready for general use in the same
way Debian GNU/Linux is, though.

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XFree86

[Sergey A. Ovchar]

Hello.
How can I turn off automatic start X-server after booting the system?

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Re: Text files in "windows mode"

[Hubert Chan]

> "Matthew" == Matthew Daubenspeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Matthew> I am trying to create a bunch of text files for use with a
Matthew> streaming MP3 player (Audiotron). However, due to the fact that
Matthew> the developers use Windows CE as their "kernel", every danged
Matthew> playlist I make is not understood by the player because it
Matthew> cannot understand my debian created text files. Is there any
Matthew> easy way to do this? Currently, I use something like:

Matthew> ls ./*.mp3 > list.m3u

Matthew> Is there a way to change that through the command line? I use
Matthew> vim as an editor, is there a config option/switch I can use
Matthew> there as well?

There are several programs which can do this.  The sysutils package
contains a program called todos (or unix2dos) which will do this.

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Re: Text files in "windows mode"

[Seneca]

On Wed, Nov 13, 2002 at 07:04:19PM -0500, Matthew Daubenspeck wrote:
> I am trying to create a bunch of text files for use with a streaming
> MP3 player (Audiotron). However, due to the fact that the developers
> use Windows CE as their "kernel", every danged playlist I make is not
> understood by the player because it cannot understand my debian
> created text files. Is there any easy way to do this? Currently, I use
> something like:
> 
> ls ./*.mp3 > list.m3u
> 
> Is there a way to change that through the command line? I use vim as
> an editor, is there a config option/switch I can use there as well?

Using the unix2dos command found in package sysutils:

ls ./*.mp3 | unix2dos > list.m3u

or on an existing file:

 list.m3u

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mutt and Mozilla mail

[Gianfranco Berardi]

I like Mozilla mail, but sometimes I am at work and I would like to be 
able to access my mail through the command line.
Well I find Mutt should do its job just fine, but what I also find is 
Mozilla will seem to get confused with the mailbox in question once I 
use Mutt on it.
If I select a a message, Mozilla mail will display the wrong email.
Has anyone else experienced this/found a fix?
Thanks,
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Re: can't find startx after installing Xserver-Xfree86

[Seneca]

On Wed, Nov 13, 2002 at 03:44:22PM -0800, Nimar Arora wrote:
> I installed Debian - Woody - stable on an x86 machine
> and then installed the package XServer-Xfree86 and
> walked through all the configuration steps. At the end
> when I executed startx it couldn't find the command!
> What else do I need to install?

apt-get install xbase-clients

You may also need to install xfonts-base, a window manager, xterm (of
some variety), xlibs, xutils, xfonts-100dpi, xfonts-scalable.

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Re: (semi-OT) JPG files -> Movie file

[nate]

nate said:

> perhaps something to convert to motion jpeg? or mpeg? or avi?
> (would prefer mpeg-1 due to it's portability but i'll take
> anything).


well for now I think I have to settle on imagemagick. it can
convert a bunch of images(even jpeg) to an animated gif. I
installed ucbmpeg, and also mjpegtools but both immediately
segfault when processing the first JPG file. Actually I
was able to get mjpegtools to create a YUV file without
errors, but once I tried to convert that to MPEG it segfaulted.

imagemagick isn't fast, on my 1.3ghz athlon/768MB it takes
3 minutes 36 seconds to convert 18 23kb files into a 2.6meg
animated gif.

I suppose I could recompile and turn on gif compression to
see how much it drops in size(yeah I know about the
LZW patent)..

I'll look into mplayer as well, someone mentioned it can
convert to AVI, ucbmpeg was easy to compile a deb, and
mjpegtools had a downloadable deb, mplayer looks a tad
more complicated.

thanks!

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Re: Text files in "windows mode"

[John]

Matthew Daubenspeck wrote:


I am trying to create a bunch of text files for use with a streaming
MP3 player (Audiotron). However, due to the fact that the developers
use Windows CE as their "kernel", every danged playlist I make is not
understood by the player because it cannot understand my debian
created text files. Is there any easy way to do this? Currently, I use
something like:

ls ./*.mp3 > list.m3u

Is there a way to change that through the command line? I use vim as
an editor, is there a config option/switch I can use there as well?

TIA
 


Try

ls ./*.mp3 | todos > list.m3u

You'll need the package sysutils installed

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Senior Research Scientist
Golden Orb Technologies LTD




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Re: argh! aptitude/dselect/apt-get dieing????

[iain d broadfoot]

nate wrote:

iain d broadfoot said:


apt-get: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3:
cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

same thing for dselect and aptitude.

/

any thoughts??



find the package that has that file(usually packages.debian.org is
best for this), manually download the deb and dpkg -i it, thats'
what I would do at least

nate

http://packages.debian.org/testing/base/libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2.html





worked fine, thanks!!

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Re: [OT] Debian NetBSD

[Mark L. Kahnt]

On Wed, 2002-11-13 at 14:54, Todd Marek wrote:
> has anyone here used Debian NetBSD yet?  if so how does it compare to 
> debian linux?
> 
> Thanks
> Todd Marek

Not that I've used it, but I thought it had been tripped up some due to
certain core parts being under a BSD license that proves to be not
exactly free, requiring some FreeBSD and GNU porting to fill in for the
difficult parts. That noted, they are looking at being close enough that
talk on the Debian-BSD list is discussing moving the component parts to
packages.debian.org soon. If you want to get a better idea of where it
is, the Debian-BSD list is a low traffic list - maybe five to twenty
messages a week - that would give you a feel for what is happening with
each of the three lines (apparently Debian/OpenBSD might be continuing,
for instance.)
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Re: Preload Openoffice.org at X startup

[Mark L. Kahnt]

On Wed, 2002-11-13 at 19:19, Edward Guldemond wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 13, 2002 at 10:07:31PM +, Jonathan Matthews wrote:
> > Failing any built-in, background server type functionality, would
> > "cat  > /dev/null &" in my .xinitrc be of any
> > /real/ use?
> 
> >From a theoretical standpoint, not really.  It's not loading the
> binary from disk that makes loading OpenOffice.org slow.  It's the
> actual steps it has to take to initalize itself that take so long.
> Cat'ing the binary to /dev/null does not cause this to happen,
> therefore, I wouldn't think that it would be of much use.
> 
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There is ooqstart-gnome, which on my system sometimes keeps Gnome from
starting (ack!), but it is essentially the concept that is being asked
for:

Description: OpenOffice QuickStarter applet for GNOME
 This applet provides a quick launcher for OpenOffice 641C+ or
 Star Office 6.0+. It attempts to mimic the functionality provided
 by the quickstarter tray icon on the other operating system supported
 by OpenOffice.

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Re: changing GNU Emacs fonts in KDE 2

[Faheem Mitha]

On Thu, 14 Nov 2002 01:45:09 + (UTC), Faheem Mitha
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Dear People,
> 
> Judging from old posts on Google, the correct way is to change fonts
> on an application is to put your preference in the .Xresources file,
> ie. something like
> 
> Emacs.font:  -adobe-courier-medium-r-normal--12-*-*-*-m-*-iso8859-1
> 
> However, for me this is ignored by emacs when it starts ups, though it
> works fine if I do
> 
> emacs --font -adobe-courier-medium-r-normal--12-*-*-*-m-*-iso8859-1
> 
> I have a feeling this may have something to do with KDE2, which is
> what I use. Is it possible KDE2 is overriding my X resources, and if
> so is there a way to turn it off? There appears to be a file
> /usr/share/apps/kdisplay/app-defaults/Emacs.ad which looks like it has
> something to do with X resources. Does anyone recommend fiddling with
> this? Or any other suggestions? I'd like a non-window-manager specific
> solution.
> 
> Note I found (and unchecked) the checkbox in the KDE Control Center
> which is under Look and Feel/Style and says "Apply fonts and colors to
> non-KDE applications", but this doesn't seem to make any difference.
> 
> I'm currently tracking Sarge, and there is nothing else that seems
> worthy of note about my setup.

Oops, I logged out and back in, and then it started working. I'm not
sure why, though. So it looks like unchecking the checkbox did the
trick. Does anyone have any other comments about this?

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Re: Javascript and forms

[Try KDE]

Your html is ill-formed. The text field should be:
   input type="text" name="n1" size=20

-tk

Michael Naumann wrote:


I have a small problem accessing form-vars via JavaScript.
In below example, I have two vars in a form,
 one of type radio (n0)
 and a normal input-var (n1).

In the JavaScript Function CheckInput() I can acces the value of
n0, but not of n1
.
Depending on the browser, I get different results:
 konqueror : always b1
 opera : undefined
 mozilla   : undefined
 galeon: undefined

---

 
   b1 
   b2 
   string 
   
 
 

   function CheckInput()

   {

 alert(document.ArgsForm.n0.value);

 alert(document.ArgsForm.n1.value);

 return false;

   }

 

---

So I must be missing something very obvious here.
Can anybody point me to the right direction?

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Radeon 9000 Pro

[Haralambos Geortgilakis]

Hi All,

Ive just tried to get my Radeon card going, by using the

Option "ChipId 0x4242"

in my Xfree86 config file, with XFree86-4.2.xx, viz the lastest deb's & 
had no joy   :-(

Any hints most greatfully & needfully accpeted!

Greek Geek


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Re: filtering unicode files

[Eric G. Miller]

On Wed, Nov 13, 2002 at 02:49:29PM -0300, Eduardo Gargiulo wrote:
> Hi all.
> 
> I´m trying to use grep to filter a string on a unicode file. If I make a
> cat on the file, i can see the contents, but if i pipe a grep after the
> cat, the string (exists in file) didn't match. Is it possible to use
> grep on unicode files? How? Is there any other tool to do that?

What do you mean by "unicode"? The man page of grep says it looks to
LC_CTYPE (among others) to determine how to interpret the file.  This
could make a difference.

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Software Selection Internet Admin School

[Dan Hunt]

Would you please consider making suggestions for a school?
Inside the school youth log with usernames in a M$ enviroment. 
I have been asked to suggest software / equipment that would: 
A) Provide firewall services. B) Log ( capture ) the username 
and website visited. C) Report this information.
Most of these schools have DSL and only one has dialup.

I do not know enough about network admin to know what debian 
packages to look at. Does a Log Server 
http://debianplanet.org/node.php?id=847 do the right job 
for logging and reporting?

The "Microsoft Network Administrator" felt that by trimming 
(somehow) the information the workstation info could be left 
out and ONLY the username and website address could be reported. 

For Example: 
Nov 22 2002 09:15 | davey-smith | barbie.com
Nov 22 2002 09:22 | davey-smith | bay-watch-girls.com

Any URL donated will be gratefully evaluated.


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Re: No contact to ppp0

[pphilli2]

Tobias,

>I'm just migrating from RedHat 7.3 to Woody and got te following
>problem:
>when I try to dial up to the internet wvdial does everything alright
>and pppd starts up. After that I can find pp0 in /proc-directory.
>The problem ist, no programm (ping, Opera, Phoenix, GFTP etc.) uses
>or finds the ppp0-interface and instead tries to access the net via
>the eth0-interface, obviously of no avail.

>The configuration is the same as in RH 7.3 there everything works
>fine. Also user is member of dip and dialout.


Did you install diald?  If so, the solution may be simpler than you think...
1. Run 'ps -ef | grep diald'.
2. If you find it running, kill it, then try dialling in again.

I had a similar issue when I installed Woody recently.  I installed diald,
but was used to using "pon" and "poff" to dialup.  So when I came to use
pon/poff, it dialed in correctly, pppd was running fine, but I couldn't
"see out", (ie. mozilla, ping, email, etc wouldn't work).  Diald seems to
have a stranglehold on the networking.

You can use diald, of course.  All you need to do is fire up mozilla, and
start browsing (or attempt to browse) and your modem will automatically
dial-up.

Hope this helps,
Paul Phillips


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libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3 after apt-get upgrade today from unstableincluded incorrect symlink?

[Ravenhall]

Package: libstdc++3
Version: 1:3.0.4-13

After running a dist-upgrade today from unstable, several programs 
(including apt-cache, apt-get, and mozilla) would give the following 
error when attempting to launch them from a console:

error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot 
open shared object file: No such file or directory

I checked out /usr/lib, and found that /usr/lib/libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3 
indeed did not exist. I guesstimated from the existing symlinks that 
this should be linked to /usr/lib/libstdc++-3libc6.2-2-2.10.0.so. I 
created the link with (as root):
ln -s /usr/lib/libstdc++-3libc6.2-2-2.10.0.so 
/usr/lib/libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3

 This then allowed me to use my programs as normal.
There IS a similar link in /usr/lib, namely:

/usr/lib/libstdc++libc6.2-2.so.3, linked to libstdc++-3libc6.2-2-2.10.0.so

as well as:
/usr/lib/libstdc++libc6.2-2.a.3, linked to
libstdc++-3libc6.2-2-2.10.0.a

 Is it possible that these symlinks were typos? It appears that 
libstdc++ in both of these links should have been written as libstdc++- 
so I believe that these are typos.

 I include the pertinent portion of my sources.list file, as I am using 
several unofficial 'cutting-edge' unstable sources:


#real unstable Debian
deb ftp://ftp.index.hu/debian/ unstable main non-free contrib
deb ftp://ftp.arnes.si/packages/debian/ unstable main non-free contrib
deb-src ftp://ftp.arnes.si/packages/debian/ unstable main non-free contrib

#main sid sources
deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable main non-free contrib
deb-src http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable main non-free contrib
deb http://ftp.se.debian.org/debian-non-US/ unstable/non-US main contrib 
non-free
deb http://ftp.no.debian.org/debian-non-US/ unstable/non-US main contrib 
non-free

I want this bug report to get to the correct maintainer, so I am mailing 
it to the debian-user mailing list as well as the bug submission email.
If someone has upgraded recently and has this problem, they will have to 
correct the symlinks before any apt functions will work.

Thanks,
 Nathan Waddell


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changing GNU Emacs fonts in KDE 2

[Faheem Mitha]

Dear People,

Judging from old posts on Google, the correct way is to change fonts
on an application is to put your preference in the .Xresources file,
ie. something like

Emacs.font:  -adobe-courier-medium-r-normal--12-*-*-*-m-*-iso8859-1

However, for me this is ignored by emacs when it starts ups, though it
works fine if I do

emacs --font -adobe-courier-medium-r-normal--12-*-*-*-m-*-iso8859-1

I have a feeling this may have something to do with KDE2, which is
what I use. Is it possible KDE2 is overriding my X resources, and if
so is there a way to turn it off? There appears to be a file
/usr/share/apps/kdisplay/app-defaults/Emacs.ad which looks like it has
something to do with X resources. Does anyone recommend fiddling with
this? Or any other suggestions? I'd like a non-window-manager specific
solution.

Note I found (and unchecked) the checkbox in the KDE Control Center
which is under Look and Feel/Style and says "Apply fonts and colors to
non-KDE applications", but this doesn't seem to make any difference.

I'm currently tracking Sarge, and there is nothing else that seems
worthy of note about my setup.
   Faheem.





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Re: argh! aptitude/dselect/apt-get dieing????

[nate]

iain d broadfoot said:
> apt-get: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3:
> cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
>
> same thing for dselect and aptitude.
>
> /
>
> any thoughts??

find the package that has that file(usually packages.debian.org is
best for this), manually download the deb and dpkg -i it, thats'
what I would do at least

nate

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Re: java plugin for mozilla; mozilla crashes

[Haim Ashkenazi]

Hi

It happened to me too, I just downloaded the "jre.xpi" (there is a link
for it in the mozilla page) and opened it as root. it works perfectly
since...

Bye
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On Wed, 2002-11-13 at 20:40, george wrote:
> Hi I have a problem with the java plugin in mozilla: I installed the sun 
> jvm 1.4.1; copied the java plugin for ns610 in the appropriate mozilla 
> plugin directory; when I look at the plugin info page of mozilla the 
> usual list of java plugin capabilities, just like it worked. But as I 
> open a web site with any java application mozilla self shuts down. I 
> can't understand why...
> Anyone knows what I can do?
> I am running debian  sid, mozilla 1.1
> Thanks
> 
> Marco Giorgetta
> 
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Printing Problem

[Harold Crouch]

I'm using Debian (woody) and I have two locales installed on my
computer:
   en_US ISO-8859-1
   ru_RU KOI8-R

After adding an additional XkbLayout and XkbOptions to my XF86Config-4
file and adding the environmental variables to /etc/profile, I am able
to display and type both the English and Russian alphabets.   

However, when I print, only English characters print correctly.
Russian characters print incorrectly or do not print at all.  I am
printing to a HP DeskJet through LPRng/magicfilter/ghostscript.

While installing the Russian fonts, I received the following message: 
"WARNING - absolute path /usr/lib/X11/fonts/type1/ was provided." 
This seems to contradict the the "Files" section of XF86Config-4,
which indicates that cyrillic fonts should be located in
/usr/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic/.  I don't know whether this is part of
the problem.

Advice on how to fix this printing problem is greatly appreciated.

Harold Crouch
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RE: Unsuscribe

[deFreese, Barry]

I know, it's the next Microsoft consipiracy!!  Hehe, sorry, couldn't resist
that one!!

Barry deFreese
NTS Technology Services Manager
Nike Team Sports
(949)-616-4005
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"Technology doesn't make you less stupid; it just makes you stupid faster."
Jerry Gregoire - Former CIO at Dell



-Original Message-
From: Joyce, Matthew [mailto:MJoyce@;ccia.org.au]
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 3:55 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Unsuscribe



> 
> On Wed, 13 Nov 2002 06:57:52 +0100, Oliver Fuchs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> 
> >On Wed, 13 Nov 2002, Rob Weir wrote:
> >
> >> It certainly is annoying, but I'd bet that most
> >> are just random acts of mistyping rather than concerted 
> conspiracies 
> >> of stupidity.
> >
> >I think it is an international conspiracy of stupidy that tries to 
> >destroy us ... maybe they are even sent from an alien planet?
> >
> >Oliver
> 
> No, that's something else. That's due to human nature, 
> causing the collective intelligence of any group of people to 
> be inversely proportional to the number of people in the 
> group. For example, all the individual soldiers in the First 
> World War knew that it was utterly stupid to charge machine 
> gun nests across half a mile of swamp, but the Army as a 
> whole didn't understand this.
> 
> "Unsuscribe" messages sent to the wrong address are merely 
> from some of Elizabeth Dexia's many children. (The original 
> "From" line is suspect too...)
> 
> Pigeon
> 
> 
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Surely the real question should why are they leaving.
People trying to leave this list should be interviewed first.

There should be a weekly stats, x joined, y left, z tried to leave.

Or perhaps there should be a strict one in/one out policy.
Certainly, casual leaving should be discouraged.  It just not right.


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Re: aptitude locked

[nate]

Michael Naumann said:

>   Warning: could not lock the chache file. Opening in read-only mode.


I have never used this program, but if it were me the first
thing I would do is run strace on the app

strace aptitude

and see what file(s) its trying to access. if the screen scrolls
to hell and back I do:

strace aptitude >&strace.log

and load strace.log in your favorite text editor or text pager.

nate




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Re: can't find startx after installing Xserver-Xfree86

[Robert Ian Smit]

* Nimar Arora <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [14-11-2002 01:49]:
> I installed Debian - Woody - stable on an x86 machine
> and then installed the package XServer-Xfree86 and
> walked through all the configuration steps. At the end
> when I executed startx it couldn't find the command!
> What else do I need to install?

Your best bet is to install one of the metapackages so that all
dependencies will also be present on your system. 

For a bare minimal system you can use x-window-system-core, your
choice of a windowmanager and perhaps some programs like a terminal.

Bob


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Re: can't find startx after installing Xserver-Xfree86

[nate]

Nimar Arora said:
> Hi,
>
> I installed Debian - Woody - stable on an x86 machine
> and then installed the package XServer-Xfree86 and
> walked through all the configuration steps. At the end
> when I executed startx it couldn't find the command!
> What else do I need to install?

if thats the *ONLY* xfree package you installed you need at
least xfree86-common, and some fonts. I have 1 system with
a minimal install, all it runs is xawtv(no window manager),
all it has installed is:

xf86setup   install
xfonts-100dpi   install
xfonts-75dpiinstall
xfonts-base install
xfonts-cyrillic install
xfonts-pex  install
xfonts-scalable install
xfree86-common  install
xfs install

of course you'll probably need a window manager unless its
a specialized system like this one I run that only runs
xawtv fullscreen 24/7.

nate






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Re: Compiling RedHat network driver

[mdevin]

On Wed, Nov 13, 2002 at 12:04:28 -0500, Edward Guldemond wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 14, 2002 at 01:30:10AM +1000, mdevin wrote:
> > I have a ASUS mobo (A7V8X) with a 10/100 Broadcom network card built in
> > (not the gigabit one).  The CD that came with the mobo has a linux
> > driver on it.  It is for RedHat, but it also has the source in a tar
> > gzip file and instructions on how to compile it and use it.
> > 
> > Following the instructions, I extract the tar gzip file and issue the
> > make command in the source directory to compile the driver.  Here is the
> > output:
> > $ make
> > gcc -DMODULE -D__KERNEL__ -DDBG=0 -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O6
> > -I/lib/modules/`uname -r`/build/include   -c -o b44um.o b44um.c
> > In file included from b44um.c:19:
> > b44mm.h:31: linux/modversions.h: No such file or directory
> > make: *** [b44um.o] Error 1
> > 
> > I got the modversions.h file from a mates computer (RedHat) and it
> > contains a whole heap of #include lines for other headers.
> 
> Install the kernel-headers- package.  The headers get
> extracted into /usr/src/kernel-headers-.  Add that to the
> include path, and you're ready to rock.
>
Ahh, thank you very much.

I did the following:
apt-get install kernel-headers-2.4.18
export C_INCLUDE_PATH=CPATH/include:/usr/src/kernel-headers-2.4.18/include
changed into source directory for the module
make

And it compiled without errors.  Unfortunately I can't get it to load
yet because insmod returns all these unresolved symbol errors.  I guess
that might be because there is some other module that must be loaded too
that it depends on?  Anyway, I will keep working on it.

One further thing:  Obviously you don't need this kernel-headers-2.4.18
package to compile a 2.4.18 kernel because I didn't have it and my
kernel compiled OK without it.  I compiled heaps of things as modules
too.  That confuses me?  Why?

Cheers.
Mark.


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argh! aptitude/dselect/apt-get dieing????

[iain d broadfoot]

apt-get: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: 
cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

same thing for dselect and aptitude.

/

any thoughts??

i'm scared to reboot in case it doesn't come back at all.

(shivers horribly)

i'm using testing/unstable, and had just ran an upgrade that failed on 
imagemagick.

still got gimp1.3 and a few others to upgrade.

iain


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SonicBlue Rio S50

[Patrick Lane]

I recently bought a Rio S50 w/ the impression that it would easily work
with linux (I see Rio 500 support everywhere). However, I can't for the
life of me get this thing to work. Has anyone had any experience with
this, or any other newer Rio model, and linux?


(sorry for the duplicate to those on debian-laptop I sent it to the
wrong list at first)


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Re: Preload Openoffice.org at X startup

[Edward Guldemond]

On Wed, Nov 13, 2002 at 10:07:31PM +, Jonathan Matthews wrote:
> Failing any built-in, background server type functionality, would
> "cat  > /dev/null &" in my .xinitrc be of any
> /real/ use?

From a theoretical standpoint, not really.  It's not loading the
binary from disk that makes loading OpenOffice.org slow.  It's the
actual steps it has to take to initalize itself that take so long.
Cat'ing the binary to /dev/null does not cause this to happen,
therefore, I wouldn't think that it would be of much use.

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Text files in "windows mode"

[Matthew Daubenspeck]

I am trying to create a bunch of text files for use with a streaming
MP3 player (Audiotron). However, due to the fact that the developers
use Windows CE as their "kernel", every danged playlist I make is not
understood by the player because it cannot understand my debian
created text files. Is there any easy way to do this? Currently, I use
something like:

ls ./*.mp3 > list.m3u

Is there a way to change that through the command line? I use vim as
an editor, is there a config option/switch I can use there as well?

TIA



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RE: Unsuscribe

[Joyce, Matthew]

> 
> On Wed, 13 Nov 2002 06:57:52 +0100, Oliver Fuchs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> 
> >On Wed, 13 Nov 2002, Rob Weir wrote:
> >
> >> It certainly is annoying, but I'd bet that most
> >> are just random acts of mistyping rather than concerted 
> conspiracies 
> >> of stupidity.
> >
> >I think it is an international conspiracy of stupidy that tries to 
> >destroy us ... maybe they are even sent from an alien planet?
> >
> >Oliver
> 
> No, that's something else. That's due to human nature, 
> causing the collective intelligence of any group of people to 
> be inversely proportional to the number of people in the 
> group. For example, all the individual soldiers in the First 
> World War knew that it was utterly stupid to charge machine 
> gun nests across half a mile of swamp, but the Army as a 
> whole didn't understand this.
> 
> "Unsuscribe" messages sent to the wrong address are merely 
> from some of Elizabeth Dexia's many children. (The original 
> "From" line is suspect too...)
> 
> Pigeon
> 
> 
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Surely the real question should why are they leaving.
People trying to leave this list should be interviewed first.

There should be a weekly stats, x joined, y left, z tried to leave.

Or perhaps there should be a strict one in/one out policy.
Certainly, casual leaving should be discouraged.  It just not right.


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can't find startx after installing Xserver-Xfree86

[Nimar Arora]

Hi,

I installed Debian - Woody - stable on an x86 machine
and then installed the package XServer-Xfree86 and
walked through all the configuration steps. At the end
when I executed startx it couldn't find the command!
What else do I need to install?

Thanks,

Nimar

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Re: XFree86

[Paul Johnson]

On Wed, Nov 13, 2002 at 05:45:07PM +0300, Sergey A. Ovchar wrote:
> Hi.
> Does anybody khow, how can I configure the subj?

Yeah.  In mutt, hit s.  *duck*

http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

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Re: Use of telinit by regular users

[Bruce Sass]

On Wed, 13 Nov 2002, Cameron Dale wrote:

> I am not a member of this mailing list, so please copy me on all replies.
>
> I have a 4 year old laptop running potato (2.2r6). I use the various
> runlevels to
> control the services that are running. I want a regular user to be able to
> switch runlevels, but telinit seems to be able to only be run by root.
>
> Is there a way to get around this?

sudo, or maybe calife or super, perhaps with a gtk or gnome
frontend... presumably you know what you are doing and have a rescue
floppy handy, so I won't go into the hazards (probably couldn't do
'em justice anyways :)


- Bruce


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aptitude locked

[Michael Naumann]

Last day I had a heavy crash of my woody box.
I suspect some misbehaviour of xmms here.
The whole display was very flickery and no
application responded any more, though I saw, that
gkrellm was still working. Even switching to a console (ALT-F1)
did not succeed. I had the the X-screen still visible, jumping
half a page to the left each time I hit a key.
Had no luck in rebooting blindly.

Long story, short end: I had to reboot.

Now my problem: I cannot start aptitude.
It says in a red box:
  Warning: could not lock the chache file. Opening in read-only mode.

Any clues how to continue from here ?

tia, Michael





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Re: Use of telinit by regular users

[Seneca]

On Wed, Nov 13, 2002 at 01:00:20PM -0800, Cameron Dale wrote:
> I am not a member of this mailing list, so please copy me on all replies.
> 
> I have a 4 year old laptop running potato (2.2r6). I use the various 
> runlevels to
> control the services that are running. I want a regular user to be able to
> switch runlevels, but telinit seems to be able to only be run by root.
> 
> Is there a way to get around this?

Yes.

> Before you ask, security is not a concern on my system, I have very few 
> users,
> but I don't want to give them all root access so they can change runlevels.

That makes sense.

> The only thing I have thought of so far is to use the ctrl-alt-del 
> keystroke to run
> a script (as root), much like it is currently set up to run the shutdown 
> command.
> The script would print a menu of available runlevels, read input from the
> user, and then run telinit to change to the appropriate runlevel. I did 
> this using
> the read command for input, but it froze the terminal I was working on. I 
> think
> there was a problem because when ctrl-alt-del was pressed, the script was
> run by init, and not by the user on the current terminal, so it doesn't 
> know where
> to get the input from. I'm not very good with bash, so I can't figure it 
> out.

apt-get install sudo
man sudo
man sudoers

It won't fix any ctrl-alt-delete problems, but when configured properly,
a user with sufficient permission can do "sudo telinit 5" (or whichever
runlevel they want), and after entering their password, telinit will
run (and change the runlevel).

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Re: Use of telinit by regular users

[nate]

Cameron Dale said:
> I am not a member of this mailing list, so please copy me on all replies.
>
> I have a 4 year old laptop running potato (2.2r6). I use the various
> runlevels to
> control the services that are running. I want a regular user to be able to
> switch runlevels, but telinit seems to be able to only be run by root.
>
> Is there a way to get around this?

since security is not a concern, have you tried making /sbin/init
setuid? or have you tried using sudo something like sudo init 3
or something?

I don't have a system myself that I can test this on at the moment
but I'm sure at least the sudo method would work(you can set it to
not prompt for a password). the setuid method should probably work
too.

nate




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