Re: need help with mailfolders

[Nick Hastings]

* ernst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [021126 18:19]:
> Hi
> 
> I have done something really stupid, playing around with emacs reading
> mail, when my primary mailclient is pine. Everyting from
> /var/spool/mail/username is gone to ~/RMAIL, and I don't know how to get
> it back;(

In emacs:

M-x unrmail

> Can someone pls help?

The above command can be found in the Emacs manual.

Help -> Read the Emacs Manual

Then middle click on "Rmail"

Then middle click on "Out of Rmail"

Cheers,

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Re: Books on Debian

[Nick Hastings]

Howdy,

* Joshua Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [021126 14:52]:
> On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 12:34:08PM -0800, Gene wrote:
> > New to debian, more of freebsd and other OS users (except MS, although 
> > not by choice at work), anyways, any good reading on using debian that 
> > anybody could recommend...
> 
> O'Reilly has a book on Debian, though it's on an older version of Debian.

For something fairly up-to-date:

apt-get install rutebook

Its not Debian specific, but I think it's a great overall Linux book,
and it gives examples of how to do things for both .rpm and .deb based
systems.

Cheers,

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Re: simple (hopefully obvious) question + thankyou

[Nick Hastings]

* matt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [021126 15:44]:


> easy question...I need to load two kernel modules (mga.o and sb.o) but
> they don't show up in the modconf menu like in potato.  where are they? 
> lsmod dosn't show them.  where/how can i download them?  there's mention
> in the installation manual of being able to load the kernel and modules
> over the network (http/ftp) but never tells you how :(

What kernel are you using (ie kernel-release )
TO find out use the command:

uname -r

What do:

find /lib/modules/kernel-release -name mga.o

and 

find /lib/modules/kernel-release -name sb.o

return?

Where "kernel-release" is whatever uname -r returned.

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Re: still monitor problems

[Liudmila Yafremava]

I tried changing to 16 and 24; also tried switching from module glx to
module GLcore. Did not help :-(

Luda

On Mon, 25 Nov 2002, Jerome Acks Jr wrote:

> On Mon, Nov 25, 2002 at 03:04:01PM -0600, Liudmila Yafremava wrote:
> > These modes are supported, there should be no problem implementing them.
> > However, now when I open Mozilla the screen just turns white. Right-click
> > with the mouse - and standard menu for Mozilla appears. But I do kind of
> > need to see the page What would that be, do you think?
> > 
> > That reminds me of the problem I had before, when the colors whould change
> > every time I opened a new window. 
> 
> At what color depth is the X server running? The log file you posted 
> in an earlier message was bpp 8 (i.e. 256 colors). Last time I had wild
> color changes when Netscape/Mozilla window opened, changing to bpp 16 
> or bpp 24 fixed the problem.
> 
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[PARTLY SOLVED - NEW QUESTION] Re: giving access to local X disply in procmail

[Gerald Livingston]

On Mon, 25 Nov 2002 22:42:36 -0600
Gerald Livingston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I've dug through documentation all over the place and no go so far. 
> 
> How can I let a procmail recipe pop up a display using xmessage if the
> user owning the procmailrc happens to be logged in to a local xsession
> at the time it is processed? I keep getting the following error:
> 
> Error: Can't open display: 
> 
> This is the recipe:
> 
> #test case
> :0bc
> * ^From.*[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> |/usr/X11R6/bin/xmessage --display :0.0 -default okay -nearmouse -file
> |-
> 
> I have xmessage working how I want from the command line, just can't
> get it to pop to the displat from procmail.
> 
> I'll also need to add a "&" on that recipe so procmail won't stop
> there, right?
> 
> G

I now have this working, so long as I don't log out, then back in to X.
See below for my new question. Here is aht I have done to get it
working.

I'm using gdm and gnome. Every tim I log in my XAUTHORITY changes to a
new file in /tmp. So, after I get logged in to X I issue the following
command in a shell:

set|grep XAUTH>~/tempfile

then I use this .procmailrc snippet to let procmail use the X display:
SHELL=/bin/sh
PATH=$PATH:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/mh/bin:/usr/bin:/bin
MAILDIR=$HOME/Maildir/
LOGFILE=$HOME/Mail/fetchlog
XMSG=/usr/X11R6/bin/xmessage
DISPLAY=:0
PROCX=$HOME/tempfile
INCLUDERC=$PROCX
#FAILDROP=failed.mail

Note the PROCX variable and the INCLUDERC. This sets the XAUTHORITY
variable in .procmailrc.

So, what I need now is a way to automatically issue that cat command
each time I log in through gdm. Does a gdm login even look at
~/.xsession? If it DOES, has the XAUTH already been issued at that
point?

And, lastly, is there a way to modify that tempfile when I log out of X
(make its only line say XAUTHORITY rather than
XAUTHORITY=/tmp/something)  so I can include a test in procmail to skip
the display recipe if XAUTHORITY is un-set?

Thanks,

Gerald

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need help with mailfolders

[ernst]

Hi

I have done something really stupid, playing around with emacs reading
mail, when my primary mailclient is pine. Everyting from
/var/spool/mail/username is gone to ~/RMAIL, and I don't know how to get
it back;(

Can someone pls help?

/ernst


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Re: audio problems

[Amit Shah]

On Mon, 25 Nov 2002 17:08:31 +0100 (CET)
ernst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

E> Hi
E> 
E> Can u get sound working if u are root? If so, do 'chmod a+rw /dev/dsp'.

No; I can't. here's the output from mpg123:

MPEG 1.0 layer III, 16 kbit/s, 11025 Hz mono
Can't find a suitable libao driver. (Is device in use?)
Segmentation fault
Amit@magrathea:~$

I'm running the default kernel (vmlinuz-bf24). Haven't compiled it.
/bin/lsmod shows:

Module  Size  Used byNot tainted
binfmt_misc 5636   1
binfmt_aout 4196   0
cmpci  26040   0 (unused)
ad1848 20672   0 (unused)
isa-pnp27432   0 [ad1848]
ac97_codec  9568   0 (unused)
ac972864   0 (unused)
sound  52876   0 [ad1848]
soundcore   3236   2 [cmpci sound]
dummy960   0 (unused)
mousedev3776   0 (unused)
mga   102800   0 (unused)
tdfx   35064   0 (unused)
radeon 92472   0 (unused)
r128   88696   3
agpgart29824   3
parport_pc 25704   1 (autoclean)
lp  6912   0 (unused)
parport21728   1 [parport_pc lp]
keybdev 1664   0 (unused)
usbkbd  2848   0 (unused)
input   3072   0 [mousedev keybdev usbkbd]
usb-uhci   20708   0 (unused)
usbcore48032   0 [usbkbd usb-uhci]


I have all the esd, esound, alsa and libao packages installed. Since this
kernel doesn't have alsa, I also tried with all alsa packages uninstalled.
Still no success.

I installed the RH sndconfig tool, that reported that I had a AC97 chip, but
I could hear the voice sample. I've now uninstalled it. 

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Re: Matlab R12 suddenly stops running

[Brian Nelson]

Chun Kit Edwin Lau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hi everyone,
>
>   I ran Matlab R12 under unstable debian.  After several apt
> update, I cannot run Matlab with java support.  The following is the
> error msg with I run matlab
>
> Warning: Unable to load Java Runtime 
>Environment:/usr/local/matlabr12/sys/java/jre/glnx86/jre/lib/i386/native_threads/libjava.so:symbol
> __libc_wait, version GLIBC_2.0 not defined in file libc.so.6 with link time 
>reference.
> Warning: Disabling Java support.
>
> (sorry for not wraping the line.)  Anyone know what that error msg
> mean? I have libc6 verison 2.3.1

It means that your JRE is broken.  It shouldn't be using the symbol
__libc_wait.

http://bugs.debian.org/166915

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Re: Stripping EOL feeds...

[Jeff]

ZephyrQ, 2002-Nov-25 23:11 -0600:
> 
>   Thank you to all who sent options.  I tried various commands, including
> the 'cat' command piped to 'tr'.  This gave me what I asked for--though
> a little sloppy.
> 
>   I wish a word processor would make it easier to find/replace such
> characters--just like Word Perfect used to (I assume they still do, but
> I haven't used it since ver. 6)--this made reformatting a breeze and
> allowed me to be creative with some of my macros.  Unfortunately, I do
> *not* see any of the current WYSIWYG linux offerings doing the
> same...emacs and vi(m) apparently can get the job done, but they both
> require more expertise than I was able to learn in the time I had.
> 
>   Again, thanx to all!

Just an FYI...check out this thread which has some suggestions on
using vim and emacs to search and replace special characters.

http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2002/debian-user-200207/msg04641.html

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Re: Adding custom submenus in $HOME/.menu

[Marc Wilson]

On Tue, Nov 26, 2002 at 12:08:29AM -0500, David Z Maze wrote:
> Right now my desktop machine at home is using openbox, which seems to
> work pretty well, isn't ugly, and provides a way to have "applets" on the
> "desktop" (by supporting WindowMaker dock-apps).

Hurray!  *Box forever! (pick your poison)

> I figured it would be a good idea to try to use the Debian menu
> infrastructure to add my own items to the root menu.  This works well
> for individual items (e.g. Galeon, XTerm, xscreensaver-command -lock,
> etc.).

Well, it'd probably be easier if you just created your own menu, and
included the Debian one as a subset of it via an [include] directive.
That's what I do.

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Re: a Debian nvidia howto

[sean finney]

On Mon, Nov 25, 2002 at 07:54:29PM -0800, Jaye Inabnit ke6sls wrote:
> I have searched (Google & these archives) for several hours seeking a debian 
> specific howto for nvidia drivers.  I found some rather stale stuff, but 
> nothing specific to Debian stable (Woody).  I searched debianplanet and 
> debianhelp too.

really?  i've posted the exact directions at least twice in the past two or three 
days...

here it is, from my outbox:

- roll your own kernel with make-kpkg, or at least install the
  kernel-headers package for your kernel version
(after extracting the kernel source to /usr/src/linux)
# cd /usr/src/linux && make-kpkg binary 
(there will be .debs in /usr/src after that.   OR...)
# apt-get install kernel-headers-2.x.x

- install the following packages:
# apt-get install nvidia-glx-src nvidia-kernel-src
- extract the nvidia module source
# cd /usr/src && tar xvfz nvidia-kernel-src.tar.gz
- build the kernel module for the nvidia card
# cd /usr/src/linux && make-kpkg modules_image
- then in /usr/src you should have a .deb package for nvidia kernel
# cd /usr/src && dpkg -i nvidia-kernel-2.x.x_rev_i386.deb
- then install the glx stuff
# cd /usr/src/nvidia-glx_version && dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc
- go back to /usr/src, and install everything that starts with
  nvidia-glx and ends with .deb
- finally, reconfigure X, which i strongly recommend that you do with
  debconf
# dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86

there should be a new driver entry when it asks you for your video
card driver, like nvidia or nvdriver or something (not nv), choose
that, and you should be on your way.

hth
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Reading BackupExec v7.x tapes in Debian 3.0

[Doug MacFarlane]

Well, I knew it was going to happen.

I converted the box with the ONLY Travan 4 tape-drive, and now they need something
off an old tape, from the NT4 Server/Seagate BackupExec version 7.x days.

Any way to read this sucker?

madmac


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dvips "out of stack space" -- help?

[Nori Heikkinen]

i just wrote a LaTeX document with heavy use of the \qtree [1]
package.  it compiles fine, but there the fun stops -- when i try to
turn it into .ps to print, dvips poos and gives me the following
error:

orange:..ol/linguistics/syntax> dvips -o homework_14.ps homework_14.dvi
This is dvips(k) 5.86e Copyright 2001 Radical Eye Software
(www.radicaleye.com)
' TeX output 2002.11.26:0040' -> homework_14.ps
. [1] [2
dvips: ! Out of stack space

i'm not sure what this means, but the upshot is it creates a ps
document with 1.5 pages of good output ... this is as 8-page homework
assignment, which is, of course, due in ten hours.  

so i try circumventing that, and go the pdflatex route.  that renders
all my text fine, but utterly fails to get any of the tree branches,
which are the main point of this assignment.

help?

thanks a lot,



[1] http://www.essex.ac.uk/linguistics/clmt/latex4ling/trees/qtree/

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Exim domain setup problem for dialup use

[Bill Moseley]

I've got a Debain machine running exim acting as a MASQ machine on a pppoe
connection (e.g. the machine has two NICs).

The hostname is "burn".  The domain, for this example, is "burn.foo.net"

The problem is if I send mail to outside machines:

   echo "hello" | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]

gives this:

 ...error from remote mailer after MAIL FROM: ...
 501 5.1.8 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... Domain of sender address
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] does not exist

Which is correct, burn.foo.net does not resolve.

So, in exim.conf I can add:

  qualify_domain = foo.net

And that fixes that problem (since foo.net) exists, but it now means that 

  echo "hello" | mail moseley

gets sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] instead of delivered locally.

I only want unqualified MAIL FROM: addresses modified, not the RCPT TO:
addresses.



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Re: simple (hopefully obvious) question + thankyou

[Oliver Fuchs]

On Mon, 25 Nov 2002, matt wrote:

> first off, thanks everyone for trying to help me figure out my ssh2
> delema.  completely reinstalled woody and used openssh and the problem
> persists.  but at least i now know it's not the debian machine.
> 
> easy question...I need to load two kernel modules (mga.o and sb.o) but
> they don't show up in the modconf menu like in potato.  where are they? 
> lsmod dosn't show them.  where/how can i download them?  there's mention
> in the installation manual of being able to load the kernel and modules
> over the network (http/ftp) but never tells you how :(
> 
> thanks guys,
> -matt
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Did you compile them as modules?

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Re: embedding sed scripts in .procmailrc

[Oliver Fuchs]

On Mon, 25 Nov 2002, csj wrote:

> Why doesn't the following .procmailrc recipe work?
> 
> :0fwh

it has to be

:0 fwh

> | sed -e 's/^List-Post:/X-Mailing-List-Post-Address:/I ; s/mailto://'

What exactly do you want to do here?

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Re: Stripping EOL feeds...

[ZephyrQ]

On Sun, 2002-11-24 at 22:34, Sandip P Deshmukh wrote:
> 
> sorry i am not an expert and myself learning to use vim. however, vim
> contain search and replace command. so basically we are trying to
> replace EOL with nothing. how exactly the command will look - i do not
> know :(

Thank you to all who sent options.  I tried various commands, including
the 'cat' command piped to 'tr'.  This gave me what I asked for--though
a little sloppy.

I wish a word processor would make it easier to find/replace such
characters--just like Word Perfect used to (I assume they still do, but
I haven't used it since ver. 6)--this made reformatting a breeze and
allowed me to be creative with some of my macros.  Unfortunately, I do
*not* see any of the current WYSIWYG linux offerings doing the
same...emacs and vi(m) apparently can get the job done, but they both
require more expertise than I was able to learn in the time I had.

Again, thanx to all!




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Adding custom submenus in $HOME/.menu

[David Z Maze]

I've mostly abandoned traditional desktop environments these days (in
particular, since GNOME 2 hit experimental and there were hints that
GNOME 1 would vanish forever).  Right now my desktop machine at home
is using openbox, which seems to work pretty well, isn't ugly, and
provides a way to have "applets" on the "desktop" (by supporting
WindowMaker dock-apps).

I figured it would be a good idea to try to use the Debian menu
infrastructure to add my own items to the root menu.  This works well
for individual items (e.g. Galeon, XTerm, xscreensaver-command -lock,
etc.).  But I also want a submenu with a list of machines I can
connect to remotely.  I have menu items that look like this:

?package(local.world.watertown):\
 local=1\
 needs=tty\
 section="The World"\
 title="watertown"\
 command="ssh watertown.mit.edu"

update-menus runs without complaint, but I never get a "The World"
menu anywhere.  Is this because update-menus is only accepting items
that fit in the blessed Debian menu structure, or am I doing something
wrong?  I'd also like my personal menus to show up in the menu
structure above the Debian system menus; can I do this (maybe with a
special sort function in .menu-methods/openbox)?

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Re: CUPS & Samba print server under Debian

[Derrick 'dman' Hudson]

On Tue, Nov 19, 2002 at 01:55:16PM -0700, Gary Hennigan wrote:
| I'm in the process of setting up a Linux server for my Home LAN and
| have some questions regarding the setup. First question is in regards
| to CUPS. I see that under cupsomatic-ppd it says that you should try
| foomatic-bin and foomatic-db first.

Just install cupsomatic-ppd and select the "driver" for your printer.
(it's not really a driver; rather it is a config file that tells cups
what your printer can and can't do and how to talk to the printer)

| The next question relates to using this printer via Samba from a
| Windoze client. I understand the Windoze client needs the native
| Windoze driver for my printer installed,

Yes and no.  The Windows architecture requires the clients to do all
conversion to printer-native data streams.  The secret here is that
you can set up a generic postscript driver on the windows machine and
your cups configuration will handle the translation to printer-native
just as it does for all of your unix applications.  I use this for a
Canon BJC-610 which doesn't have any good windows drivers (except for
the one that came with it which doesn't support networking).

| which isn't a problem since that's what the printer is currently
| attached to. The question is will I lose any capabilities by
| attaching it to the Linux box running Samba? I use the printer to,
| among other things, print near photo-quality pics and I know on the
| Windoze side that usually involves some special driver tricks (in
| the HP's case I think it's called Photo ret, or something similar).
| Will I lose that capability by attaching the printer to the Linux
| box, or does it basically send raw printer command over the Samba
| link and effectively bypass the Linux driver, which may not have all
| the capability of the Windoze driver?

If you set up the print spool in cups as type "raw" then you can use
the windows driver to generate the printer-native data stream.  In
"raw" mode cups will merely queue and then deliver the data to the
printer.

You can configure the printer with 2 (or more) queues directed to it.
One use for that is to have one configuration with the cupsomatic
driver for your *nix apps to use and one configured as "raw" for the
windows clients to use.

HTH,
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Matlab R12 suddenly stops running

[Chun Kit Edwin Lau]

Hi everyone,

I ran Matlab R12 under unstable debian.  After several apt
update, I cannot run Matlab with java support.  The following is the
error msg with I run matlab

Warning: Unable to load Java Runtime 
Environment:/usr/local/matlabr12/sys/java/jre/glnx86/jre/lib/i386/native_threads/libjava.so:symbol
 __libc_wait, version GLIBC_2.0 not defined in file libc.so.6 with link time reference.
Warning: Disabling Java support.

(sorry for not wraping the line.)  Anyone know what that error msg
mean? I have libc6 verison 2.3.1

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simple (hopefully obvious) question + thankyou

[matt]

first off, thanks everyone for trying to help me figure out my ssh2
delema.  completely reinstalled woody and used openssh and the problem
persists.  but at least i now know it's not the debian machine.

easy question...I need to load two kernel modules (mga.o and sb.o) but
they don't show up in the modconf menu like in potato.  where are they? 
lsmod dosn't show them.  where/how can i download them?  there's mention
in the installation manual of being able to load the kernel and modules
over the network (http/ftp) but never tells you how :(

thanks guys,
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giving access to local X disply in procmail

[Gerald Livingston]

I've dug through documentation all over the place and no go so far. 

How can I let a procmail recipe pop up a display using xmessage if the
user owning the procmailrc happens to be logged in to a local xsession
at the time it is processed? I keep getting the following error:

procmail: Couldn't determine implicit lockfile from
"/usr/X11R6/bin/xmessage" 
Error: Can't open display: 

This is the recipe:

#test case
:0bc
* ^From.*[EMAIL PROTECTED]
|/usr/X11R6/bin/xmessage --display :0.0 -default okay -nearmouse -file -

I tried adding an su to the user's id but then it complains that su must
be run from a terminal (even though I used -c?).

I fixed the lockfile error (by not using one on the "c" recipe) and the
message drops into my mailbox by the next matching recipe just fine.

I have xmessage working how I want from the command line, just can't get
it to pop to the displat from procmail.

I'll also need to add a "&" on that recipe so procmail won't stop there,
right?

G

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Re: APT Documentation

[Mike Markley]

On Mon, Nov 25, 2002 at 03:50:40PM +0100, Josip Rodin wrote:
> But it's not maintained and efforts to resurrect it have not been successful
> yet.  

Okay. http://www.apt-get.org/ is open for business :).

I will likely continue hacking on it for the next few days, so expect it
to look decent in the future. Suggestions for new features will also be
considered, within reason.

Note that I'll be actively filtering junk out on this, so play nice ;).

I may also implement some sort of hosting solution for this thing,
allowing people with limited bandwidth/space and a few packages to put
up to put their stuff here. That's really a whole other can of worms,
though, and one I'm not ready to tackle yet.

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Re: a Debian nvidia howto

[Faheem Mitha]

On Mon, 25 Nov 2002 19:54:29 -0800, Jaye Inabnit ke6sls <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I have searched (Google & these archives) for several hours seeking a debian 
> specific howto for nvidia drivers.  I found some rather stale stuff, but 
> nothing specific to Debian stable (Woody).  I searched debianplanet and 
> debianhelp too.
> 
> I have attached a small piece of the nvidia readme.  What I would like to 
> know is if there is a better way other than "make install".
> 
> Should I forget about trying for a debian way and just follow the readme?
> 
> What about removing mesa (mesag3-glide2)?  If I were to remove this, apt will 
> simply remove everything related to x (second attachment):
> 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 172 to remove and 0  not upgraded.
> 
> Tips would be very helpful.  If possible, please CC me in your replies.

I did this once. You will need the packages

nvidia-glx-src - NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x driver
nvidia-kernel-src - NVIDIA binary kernel module

You'll need to know a little bit about kernel compilation, and
building Debian sources into .deb packages, as you'll need to build a
kernel module from nvidia-kernel-src against your current kernel
sources, and also compile a binary X driver from nvidia-glx-src (these
source packages both contain debian/rules files, if I remember
correctly). Otherwise it is straightforward. The make install stuff
will be handled by the respective rules files, so you just need to do
something like "debuild binary" in the top level of the source
directory for nvidia-glx-src (which will require the devscripts
package), and the usual "fakeroot make-kpkg modules_image" for the
nvidia-kernel-src package. You may also need to check you have the
appropriate build dependencies.

Email me if you need more details.

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Re: linux inside windows domain

[Florentin Ionescu]

Nope , routing does not work - donow why , already tested and also the
dante-client configured as much I could understood from man page...



On Mon, 25 Nov 2002, Rob Weir wrote :

» Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2002 21:34:30 +1100
» From: Rob Weir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
» To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
» Subject: Re: linux inside windows domain
»
» On Sun, Nov 24, 2002 at 11:15:42PM -0800, Florentin Ionescu wrote:
» > Given a computer alpha with debian , on a windows NT domain beta which
» > has a proxy server gama 11.22.33.44 can anybody please explain me how
» > can you set socks5 (? any other way ?) to access the Internet ?
»
» You could just route packets directly, which is the obvious solution.
» Why aren't you doing this?
»
» > Mozilla has build-in client, so setting proxy as gama:1080 is working
» > fine - but I want to other application to work too.
»
» SOCKS is a special protocol which programs have to actually understand
» to use.  Find socksified versions of the software you want, actually
» route things properly over the network or, in a pinch, install tsocks
» and use the LD_PRELOAD hack to socksify everything else.
»
» You could also just use a HTTP proxy (like squid), a lot of programs
» know how to use that.
»
» -rob








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a Debian nvidia howto

[Jaye Inabnit ke6sls]

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Hello:

I have searched (Google & these archives) for several hours seeking a debian 
specific howto for nvidia drivers.  I found some rather stale stuff, but 
nothing specific to Debian stable (Woody).  I searched debianplanet and 
debianhelp too.

I have attached a small piece of the nvidia readme.  What I would like to 
know is if there is a better way other than "make install".

Should I forget about trying for a debian way and just follow the readme?

What about removing mesa (mesag3-glide2)?  If I were to remove this, apt will 
simply remove everything related to x (second attachment):
0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 172 to remove and 0  not upgraded.

Tips would be very helpful.  If possible, please CC me in your replies.

tia

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NVIDIA Accelerated Linux Driver Set README & Installation Guide

Last Updated: $Date: 2002/08/27 $
Most Recent Driver: 1.0-3123


INSTALLING/UPGRADING BY TAR FILE

Instructions for the Impatient:

$ tar xvzf NVIDIA_kernel.tar.gz
$ tar xvzf NVIDIA_GLX.tar.gz
$ cd NVIDIA_kernel
$ make install
$ cd ../NVIDIA_GLX
$ make install

Instructions:

To install from tar file, unpack each file:

$ tar xvzf NVIDIA_kernel.tar.gz
$ tar xvzf NVIDIA_GLX.tar.gz

cd into the NVIDIA_kernel directory.  Type 'make install'.  This will
compile the kernel interface to the NVdriver, link the NVdriver, copy
the NVdriver into place, and attempt to insert the NVdriver into the
running kernel:

$ cd NVIDIA_kernel
$ make install

Next, move into the NVIDIA_GLX directory.  Type 'make install' -- this
will copy the needed OpenGL and XFree86 files into place:

$ cd ../NVIDIA_GLX
$ make install

Note that the "make install" for each package will remove any previously
installed NVIDIA drivers.


__

(sec-03) EDITING YOUR XF86CONFIG FILE
__

When XFree86 4.0 was released, it used a slightly different XF86Config
file syntax than the 3.x series did, and so to allow both 3.x and 4.x
versions of XFree86 to co-exist on the same system, it was decided that
XFree86 4.x was to use the configuration file "/etc/X11/XF86Config-4"
if it existed, and only if that file did not exist would the file
"/etc/X11/XF86Config" be used (actually, that is an over-simplification
of the search criteria; please see the XF86Config man page for a complete
description of the search path).  Please make sure you know what
configuration file XFree86 is using.  If you are in doubt, look for a
line beginning with "(==) Using config file:" in your XFree86 log file
("/var/log/XFree86.0.log").  This README will use "XF86Config" to refer
to your configuration file, whatever it is named.

If you do not have a working XF86Config file, there are several ways
to start: there is a sample config file that comes with XFree86, and
there is a sample config file included with the NVIDIA_GLX package (it
gets installed in /usr/share/doc/NVIDIA_GLX-1.0/).  You could also use
a program like 'xf86config'; some distributions provide their own tool
for generating an XF86Config file.  For more on XF86Config file syntax,
please refer to the man page.

If you already have an XF86Config file working with a different driver
(such as the 'nv' or 'vesa' driver), then all you need to do is find
the relevant Device section and replace the line:

Driver "nv"
(or Driver "vesa")

with 

Driver "nvidia"  

In the Module section, make sure you have:

Load   "glx"

You should also remove the following lines:
  
Load  "dri"
Load  "GLcore"

if they exist.  There are also numerous options that can be added to
the XF86Config file to fine-tune the NVIDIA XFree86 driver.  Please see
Appendix D for a complete list of these options.

Once you have configured your XF86Config file, you are ready to restart
X and begin using the accelerated OpenGL libraries.  After you restart X,
you should be able to run any OpenGL application and it will automatically
use the new NVIDIA libraries.  If you encounter any problems, please
see the FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS section below.



 apt-get remove -s mesag3-glide2
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  abiword abiword-common abiword-gtk abiword-plugins aktion amor ark artsbuilder 
bibletime chromium criticalmass eyesapplet
  fift

headphone sound.

[Robin]

I was wondering how it'd be possible to redirect audio out through my 
headphone jack if I had something plugged in, or simply how to switch to 
them.  I recall an old kernel... 2.2.17 or so (from YDL1.2) only sent 
sound out through the headphone jack, so I assume this isn't impossible. 
System is an iWhack DV; AWACS sound, kernel module is dmasound_pmac, 
etc.  Someone told me once that it's simply a matter of adjusting values 
using aumix, but I've had no luck.

- robin


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Re: ext2 vs ext3 vs xfs vs reiserfs

[Patrick Wiseman]

On 26 Nov 2002 at 11:22am, Isaac To wrote:

:> "Matthias" == Matthias Hentges <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
:
:Matthias> Ext3 is rock-stable since it is based on ext2 which is in use
:Matthias> for many years and is well tested.
:
:You probably cannot infer the stability of ext3 from that of ext2.  The
:layout has been made mostly compatible, but the code has been changed for
:much more than what you can trust without trying it.

Are you sure?  I thought that ext3 was just ext2 plus journal.  In fact,
I've seen it suggested that you can safely revert from ext3 to ext2 by
simply deleting the journal file and editing fstab.  I seem to remember
seeing that on this list a while back as a way to shred files reliably so
that they could _not_ be recovered from the ext3 journal.

I went to ext3 a month or so ago on a live system and have had no
problems, but I haven't tried reverting to ext2.

Patrick

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Re: still monitor problems

[Jerome Acks Jr]

On Mon, Nov 25, 2002 at 03:04:01PM -0600, Liudmila Yafremava wrote:
> These modes are supported, there should be no problem implementing them.
> However, now when I open Mozilla the screen just turns white. Right-click
> with the mouse - and standard menu for Mozilla appears. But I do kind of
> need to see the page What would that be, do you think?
> 
> That reminds me of the problem I had before, when the colors whould change
> every time I opened a new window. 

At what color depth is the X server running? The log file you posted 
in an earlier message was bpp 8 (i.e. 256 colors). Last time I had wild
color changes when Netscape/Mozilla window opened, changing to bpp 16 
or bpp 24 fixed the problem.

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Re: sources.list syntax

[Stephen Gran]

This one time, at band camp, Tim Verry said:
> I think I've read the usual docs on sources.list.  But I still don't get it.
> Everytime I put something in there by hand it searches all kinds of places
> under the main url that I find unpredictable.  3/4 times now it did not find
> the file I was trying to point it at.
> 
> If there is a .deb file somewhere, anywhere, and I want to point dselect at
> it, what do I put in the sources.list file?  Is there some kind of agreed
> upon directory structure?  I thought options were equivalent to dir names
> but that doesn't seem to be the case.  It seems to really look around, but
> what exactly is it looking for to tell it what is there, the dependencies
> etc?

You don't point sources.list at the actual .deb, you point it to the
directory containing Packages.gz (or Sources.gz, depending).  So, I have
this in my sources.list:

deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free

The actual packages.list is at:
http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/unstable/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz

You can use things like ./ or ../ if the directory structure isn't what
apt normally expects, so:

deb ftp://download.uk.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/3.0.4/Debian/sid ./

is:
ftp://download.uk.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/3.0.4/Debian/sid/Packages.gz
(note this is missing the usual main/binary$ARCH/ subdirectory)

and:
deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ ../project/experimental main
is:
http://http.us.debian.org/debian/project/experimental/main/binaryi386/Packages.gz
(and this doesn't have the break for dists)

You can go from there.  I could proably be more clear, but it's getting
late here (^:
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Re: ext2 vs ext3 vs xfs vs reiserfs

[Isaac To]

> "Vincent" == Vincent Lefevre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Vincent> Then, why is fsck necessary with ext3?

In a perfect world where there is no filesystem code bug, it is not needed.
Now come to the real world again.

Regards,
Isaac.


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Re: ext2 vs ext3 vs xfs vs reiserfs

[Isaac To]

> "Matthias" == Matthias Hentges <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Matthias> Ext3 is rock-stable since it is based on ext2 which is in use
Matthias> for many years and is well tested.

You probably cannot infer the stability of ext3 from that of ext2.  The
layout has been made mostly compatible, but the code has been changed for
much more than what you can trust without trying it.

Matthias> Many people have reported problems (including data-loss) with
Matthias> ReiserFS, but for most people ReiserFS works great.

I think that is experience during the time when Reiserfs is still
stabilizing.  I don't know anyone still unhappy with Reiserfs with its
stability.  The real problem of Reiserfs is that it is not compatible with
ext2 at all, and your only hope to create a Reiser filesystem is to create
it from scratch.  This trouble has to be weighed against the performance
benefit that is brought by the transition, which is basically none unless
you have a directory containing thousands of files (then Reiser will be much
better for looking up files in that directory).  That is for Reiser3.
Reiser4 is about to come out, and with luck it will get into Linux kernel
2.6/3.0.  They say performance doubles with this FS (they achieve this by
delayed allocation of blocks to minimize fragmentation), and perhaps that
will be a better time to switch FS.

Regards,
Isaac.


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sources.list syntax

[Tim Verry]

I think I've read the usual docs on sources.list.  But I still don't get it.
Everytime I put something in there by hand it searches all kinds of places
under the main url that I find unpredictable.  3/4 times now it did not find
the file I was trying to point it at.

If there is a .deb file somewhere, anywhere, and I want to point dselect at
it, what do I put in the sources.list file?  Is there some kind of agreed
upon directory structure?  I thought options were equivalent to dir names
but that doesn't seem to be the case.  It seems to really look around, but
what exactly is it looking for to tell it what is there, the dependencies
etc?


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Re: Books on Debian

[Joshua Lee]

On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 12:34:08PM -0800, Gene wrote:
> New to debian, more of freebsd and other OS users (except MS, although 
> not by choice at work), anyways, any good reading on using debian that 
> anybody could recommend...

O'Reilly has a book on Debian, though it's on an older version of Debian.


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Re: smbfs just isn't there

[nate]

Tim Verry said:

> I can't find it at all, used "locate" and KDE's "find files".  Would there
> be  any harm in just acquiring this file and throwing it in there?

if you can get the file from the 2.2.20 kernel there wouldn't be
much harm, you would probably have to load it via insmod -f smbfs.o
(to force it). But being that they are the same version of kernel, idepci
is only a small patch, it shouldn't cause any serious problems.

I would reccomend compilign a kernel from scratch if possible, but its
not a big deal.

something you can try:

download the kernel-image-2.2.20 deb file from packages.debian.org,
then run it through alien to convert it to tar/gz (alien -t), then
extract it somewhere safe like /tmp and copy the smbfs.o module over,
then try to force load it as above.

good luck

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[NAV for Microsoft Exchange-NEWMAN]

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Re: Postfix server acting as relay !!!!

[Matthew Weier O'Phinney]

-- Curtis Vaughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
(on Monday, 25 November 2002, 04:22 PM -0800):
> I thought I had fixed my server so it wouldn't relay, but I just now 
> looked at the queue and OH MY GOD!!!
> 
> Here is my main.cf
> 
> Any ideas
> 
> 
> Curtis

> # see /usr/share/postfix/main.cf.dist for a commented, fuller
> # version of this file.
> 
> # Do not change these directory settings - they are critical to Postfix
> # operation.
> command_directory = /usr/sbin
> daemon_directory = /usr/lib/postfix
> program_directory = /usr/lib/postfix
> 
> mail_owner = postfix
> 
> smtpd_banner = $myhostname ESMTP $mail_name (Debian/GNU)
> setgid_group = postdrop
> biff = no
> 
> # appending .domain is the MUA's job.
> append_dot_mydomain = no
> myhostname = pacifica.vostok1.com
> mydomain = vostok1.com
> alias_maps = hash:/etc/aliases, ldap:ldapdata
> myorigin = /etc/mailname
> # mydestination = Pacifica.Vostok1.com, localhost.Vostok1.com, localhost
> mydestination = $mydomain, $myhostname, localhost.$mydomain, localhost
> #relayhost = 
> mynetworks = 10.0.1.0/24, 10.0.0.0/24 
> 
> local_transport = cyrus
> #mailbox_transport = lmtp:unix:/cyrus/socket/lmtp
> mailbox_transport = cyrus
> 
> #smtpd_recipient_restrictions = permit_sasl_authenticated
> smtpd_client_restrictions = permit_sasl_authenticated, permit_mynetworks, 
>reject_unknown_client
> smtpd_delay_reject = yes
> 
> #local_recipient_maps = unix:passwd.byname
> 
> mailbox_command = 
> mailbox_size_limit = 0
> recipient_delimiter = 
> #relayhost = 
> 
> #relay_domains = $mydestination, $virtual_domains
> #virtual_domains = pacificseabass.com, vostok.pt, npc-usa.com 
Why is relay_domains commented out? You should have this set to
something like
relay_domains = *.Vostok1.com
and that should solve your problem. Otherwise, it looks good.

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Re: Postfix server acting as relay !!!!

[Gerald Livingston]

On Mon, 25 Nov 2002 17:53:59 -0800
Curtis Vaughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Well, I took your advice, except for the check_relay_domains, but
> still I am relaying. I guess the intended recipients have FQDNs.
> 
> check_relay_domains I am not using because originally that is what I 
> did, but it would only relay to those domains.  What if an authorized 
> user wishes to send a letter to someone at yahoo.com?  It's not in the
> 
> relay domains, therefore it is dropped.
> 
> Curtis
> 

I don't know how to do it in PostFix but for my Exim setup I allow
relaying TO any domain but only FROM machines on the local net or FROM
authorized users using SMTP-AUTH (must have a valid user/password on the
mail host).

G

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Re: X Not starting ? S3 Virge GX/2

[Russell]

Kim Christiansen wrote:

Hi all,

I have a potato box and trying to install X
Current Config is
S3 Virge GX/2 4mb Card and an 
ADI ProVista VD 548 Monitor (Which I can't seem to get specs for ...)

No valid Modes seem to come through and when I run XF86_S3  it falls over. 

Any ideas?

...

(--) S3V: Mode "640x480" needs hsync freq of 53.01 kHz. Deleted.
(--) S3V: Mode "800x600" needs hsync freq of 35.16 kHz. Deleted.
(--) S3V: Mode "1024x768" needs hsync freq of 56.48 kHz. Deleted.


It looks like your XF86Config-4 may have a too restrictive hsync
or pixclock range specified.



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drivers for HP Laserjet 3330?

[Faheem Mitha]

I wondered if anyone has tried using the Laserjet 3330 under Linux. I
just set this up for someone using the generic HP Laserjet Postscript
driver. With this driver I can only print at 600dpi though it has
supposedly 1200 resolution, and that driver doesn't have any specific
support for this printer. Has anyone managed to do any better?

   Faheem.



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Re: Postfix server acting as relay !!!!

[Curtis Vaughan]

Well, I took your advice, except for the check_relay_domains, but still 
I am relaying. I guess the intended recipients have FQDNs.

check_relay_domains I am not using because originally that is what I 
did, but it would only relay to those domains.  What if an authorized 
user wishes to send a letter to someone at yahoo.com?  It's not in the 
relay domains, therefore it is dropped.

Curtis

Antoine Jacoutot wrote:
On Tue, 2002-11-26 at 01:22, Curtis Vaughan wrote:


I thought I had fixed my server so it wouldn't relay, but I just now 
looked at the queue and OH MY GOD!!!

Here is my main.cf

Any ideas


You could add a line like this:
smtpd_recipient_restrictions = permit_mynetworks,
reject_non_fqdn_recipient, check_relay_domains





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Re: jpegs to mpeg? convert->mpeg2encode?

[sean finney]

On Mon, Nov 25, 2002 at 07:17:56PM -0600, Michael Jinks wrote:
> So, is there some other way of turning JPEG's into an MPEG, or is
> mpeg2encode available someplace and I'm just failing to find it?

check out the ucbmpeg package.  it has a program called mpeg_encode
that does the trick, though you have to learn how to set up
a config file for it first (there are examples in /usr/share/doc/)


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X Not starting ? S3 Virge GX/2

[Kim Christiansen]

Hi all,

I have a potato box and trying to install X
Current Config is
S3 Virge GX/2 4mb Card and an 
ADI ProVista VD 548 Monitor (Which I can't seem to get specs for ...)

No valid Modes seem to come through and when I run XF86_S3  it falls over. 

Any ideas?

Cheers

Kim Christiansen



==
//xdm
===
XFree86 Version 3.3.6 / X Window System
(protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6300)
Release Date: January 8 2000
If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is newer
than the above date, look for a newer version before reporting
problems.  (see http://www.XFree86.Org/FAQ)
Operating System: Linux 2.2.14-va.4.4-i586 i686 [ELF] 
Configured drivers:
  S3V: accelerated server for S3 graphics adaptors (Patchlevel 0)
  s3_ViRGE
(using VT number 7)

XF86Config: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/XF86Config
(**) stands for supplied, (--) stands for probed/default values
(**) XKB: keymap: "xfree86(en_US)" (overrides other XKB settings)
(**) Mouse: type: PS/2, device: /dev/psaux, buttons: 3
(**) S3V: Graphics device ID: "S3VirgeGX"
(**) S3V: Monitor ID: "AdiProVista"
(--) S3V: Mode "640x480" needs hsync freq of 53.01 kHz. Deleted.
(--) S3V: Mode "800x600" needs hsync freq of 35.16 kHz. Deleted.
(--) S3V: Mode "1024x768" needs hsync freq of 56.48 kHz. Deleted.
(--) S3V: Mode "640x400" needs hsync freq of 37.86 kHz. Deleted.
(--) S3V: Mode "640x480" needs hsync freq of 36.46 kHz. Deleted.
(--) S3V: Mode "640x480" needs hsync freq of 37.50 kHz. Deleted.
(--) S3V: Mode "800x600" needs hsync freq of 37.88 kHz. Deleted.
(--) S3V: Mode "640x480" needs hsync freq of 43.27 kHz. Deleted.
(--) S3V: Mode "1152x864" needs hsync freq of 43.92 kHz. Deleted.
(--) S3V: Mode "800x600" needs hsync freq of 48.08 kHz. Deleted.
(--) S3V: Mode "1024x768" needs hsync freq of 48.36 kHz. Deleted.
(--) S3V: Mode "640x480" needs hsync freq of 53.01 kHz. Deleted.
(--) S3V: Mode "1152x864" needs hsync freq of 53.51 kHz. Deleted.
(--) S3V: Mode "800x600" needs hsync freq of 55.84 kHz. Deleted.
(--) S3V: Mode "1024x768" needs hsync freq of 56.48 kHz. Deleted.
(--) S3V: Mode "1280x1024" needs hsync freq of 81.13 kHz. Deleted.
(--) S3V: Mode "800x600" needs hsync freq of 64.02 kHz. Deleted.
(--) S3V: Mode "1024x768" needs hsync freq of 62.50 kHz. Deleted.
(--) S3V: Mode "1152x864" needs hsync freq of 62.42 kHz. Deleted.
(--) S3V: Mode "1280x1024" needs hsync freq of 64.25 kHz. Deleted.
(--) S3V: Mode "1024x768" needs hsync freq of 70.24 kHz. Deleted.
(--) S3V: Mode "1152x864" needs hsync freq of 70.88 kHz. Deleted.
(--) S3V: Mode "1280x1024" needs hsync freq of 74.59 kHz. Deleted.
(--) S3V: Mode "1600x1200" needs hsync freq of 75.00 kHz. Deleted.
(--) S3V: Mode "1152x864" needs hsync freq of 76.01 kHz. Deleted.
(--) S3V: Mode "1280x1024" needs hsync freq of 78.86 kHz. Deleted.
(--) S3V: Mode "1024x768" needs hsync freq of 80.21 kHz. Deleted.
(--) S3V: Mode "1280x1024" needs hsync freq of 81.13 kHz. Deleted.
(--) S3V: Mode "1600x1200" needs hsync freq of 87.50 kHz. Deleted.
(--) S3V: Mode "1152x864" needs hsync freq of 89.62 kHz. Deleted.
(--) S3V: Mode "1280x1024" needs hsync freq of 91.15 kHz. Deleted.
(--) S3V: Mode "1600x1200" needs hsync freq of 93.75 kHz. Deleted.
(--) S3V: Mode "1600x1200" needs hsync freq of 105.77 kHz. Deleted.
(--) S3V: Mode "1280x1024" needs hsync freq of 107.16 kHz. Deleted.
(--) S3V: Mode "1800X1440" needs hsync freq of 96.15 kHz. Deleted.
(--) S3V: Mode "1800X1440" needs hsync freq of 104.52 kHz. Deleted.
(--) S3V: Mode "512x384" needs vert refresh rate of 77.97 Hz. Deleted.
(--) S3V: Mode "512x384" needs hsync freq of 34.38 kHz. Deleted.
(--) S3V: Mode "320x240" needs hsync freq of 39.38 kHz. Deleted.
(--) S3V: Mode "400x300" needs hsync freq of 35.16 kHz. Deleted.
(--) S3V: Mode "400x300" needs hsync freq of 37.88 kHz. Deleted.
(--) S3V: Mode "400x300" needs hsync freq of 48.08 kHz. Deleted.
(--) S3V: Mode "480x300" needs hsync freq of 35.16 kHz. Deleted.
(--) S3V: Mode "480x300" needs hsync freq of 37.80 kHz. Deleted.
(--) S3V: Mode "480x300" needs hsync freq of 39.56 kHz. Deleted.
(--) S3V: Mode "480x300" needs hsync freq of 48.00 kHz. Deleted.
(**) FontPath set to 
"/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic/:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/"
(--) S3V: PCI: ViRGE/GX2 rev 6, Linear FB @ 0xe000
(--) S3V: chipset:   ViRGE/GX2 rev. 6
(--) S3V: chipset driver: s3_ViRGE
(--) S3V: videoram:  4096k
(--) S3V: for ViRGE chips you shouldn't specify a Ramdac
(--) S3V: Ramdac type: s3_trio64
(--) S3V: Ramdac speed: 170 MHz
(--) S3V: Using Trio32/64 programmable clock (MCLK 75.886 MHz)
(--) S3V: Maximum allowed dot-clock: 170.000 MHz
(--) S3V: There is no mode definition named "640

Re: apt-get kernel upgrade?

[sean finney]

On Mon, Nov 25, 2002 at 08:08:22PM -0500, Tim Verry wrote:
> Yow!  I'm going to have to look into that.  If it's that easy...  I think I 
> can set up lilo so I can still boot to the old one?
> Will it try to preserve my current configuration to the point of not 
> installing the smbfs part?  And if not, how would it know what to change?

yes.  i'm not sure what the install process does for kernels that aren't
from previously installed packages, but i'd bet that it won't erase it.
it'll probably just move it to vmlinuz.old, and the full named 
vmlinuz-2.2.20 should probably not be touched at all.

now i'm not saying you shouldn't tar up /boot and /lib, but i wouldn't
worry too much about it.  basically, take your current lilo.conf, figure
out how it works for your current kernel, and add an entry pointing
to /boot/vmlinuz-2.2.20 or whatever and call it Linux.backup.  like i said
it may actually do that for you.   as far as configuration goes, the
only thing that it will change about your system is the kernel-compile
options, which is what you want in the first place.  it won't overwrite
anything in /etc or otherwise break anything.  at least, i can't imagine
the installer cd 2.2.20 image having anything compiled in that wouldn't
be shipped stock in the debian kernel-image.

anyway, tar up the dirs and give it a shot :)

sean



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Re: that dreaded APM

[ajlewis2]

In linux.debian.user, you wrote:
> Ive almost got my system 100% the way I want it !!!
> 
> However APM.
> 
> I have configured the kernel with the modules 
> Y General setup/power management support
> Y General setup/advanced power management BIOS support
> 
> I have dselected and loaded 
> apmd
> 
> if I type amp -v I get
> 
> AMP bios 1.2 (kernel driver 1.16)
> AC on-line, no system battery
> 
> I take this to be good, I have a AMP bios ??!
> If i
> /sbin/poweroff
> or
> shutdown -h now
> 
> Linux shuts down but the hardware does not.
> Its a 700MHz PIII, pretty standard, my old Red Hat 7.2 shut the hardware down 
> AOK, so I know it can work.
> 
> I tried to find documentation on AMP in /usr/src/ .. /Documentation
> 
> I have checked /var/log/messages & syslog
> 
> no luck
> If someone can throw me a bone and tell me where to look I would appreciate it
> 
> Dave
> 

I tried this and failed for a long time and just read this a couple days
ago.  It works with one machine and not with another.  I think that's
because I don't have everything I need on the one that doesn't work. 
Anyway, I added this to /etc/lilo.conf and ran /sbin/lilo:

append="apm=on apm=power-off"

There were other things that could be done as well.  They were listed in the
Debian reference manual at http://qref.sourceforge.net/  Sometime I have to
read that whole document, because it looks like it has a lot to offer. 
Anyway, there were some other options for getting the poweroff thing to work
- modules to load or things to compile into the kernel.  

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Re: Postfix server acting as relay !!!!

[Antoine Jacoutot]

On Tue, 2002-11-26 at 01:22, Curtis Vaughan wrote:
> I thought I had fixed my server so it wouldn't relay, but I just now 
> looked at the queue and OH MY GOD!!!
> 
> Here is my main.cf
> 
> Any ideas

You could add a line like this:
smtpd_recipient_restrictions = permit_mynetworks,
reject_non_fqdn_recipient, check_relay_domains



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Re: jpegs to mpeg? convert->mpeg2encode?

[Vineet Kumar]

* Michael Jinks ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [021125 17:19]:
> So, is there some other way of turning JPEG's into an MPEG, or is
> mpeg2encode available someplace and I'm just failing to find it?

There was a whole thread about this about 10 days ago:

Subject: (semi-OT) JPG files -> Movie file

Read through the archives, and come back if your question isn't answered
there already (I'd bet it is).

good times,
Vineet
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jpegs to mpeg? convert->mpeg2encode?

[Michael Jinks]

Hi all.

I have a user who has found that the "convert" program (part of
ImageMagick) can string a list of JPEG files into a MPEG movie.  Or at
least, it used to be able to do that; it relies on a delegate program
called mpeg2encode, but from what I can find through google it seems
that mpeg2encode was rolled into the ImageMagick package at some point,
and later discarded.  I've been unable to find mpeg2encode on its own,
either in the Debian archives or elsewhere.

So, is there some other way of turning JPEG's into an MPEG, or is
mpeg2encode available someplace and I'm just failing to find it?

Thanks,
-mrj
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Re: Looking for a backup to CD-R(W) program

[Gerald Livingston]

On Mon, 25 Nov 2002 20:08:53 -0500 (EST)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joe Nahmias) wrote:

> Chris,
> 
> Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought Linus himself said that using
> dump on live (mounted) filesystems was a bad idea.  I'll see if I can
> dig up a reference to it...
> 
> Thanks for your help!
> Joe
> 
> > Chris Lale wrote:
> > > Incremental daily backup:
> > > dump -3u -z -M -B 65 -f /bkp/home/monday.dump /home
> > 
> > Whoops! that should be -9 not -3:
> > dump -9u -z -M -B 65 -f /bkp/home/daily.dump /home
> > 

>From the top of the "cdbackup" man page:

DESCRIPTION

cdbackup  is  a utility to make streaming backups to CD-R(W)
disks. It's designed to work with any backup tool which writes the
backup to stdout   (like tar/cpio/afio).

NOTE: this program REQUIRES that a recent version of cdrecord(1)
is present in the PATH.

WARNING! When using this program under Linux, be sure not to use
dump on a mounted filesystem. This has a high potential for creating 
corrupted   backups.  As  of  kernel  version  2.4.19,  this  has
not been fixed and it may not be fixed at all.  You can read Linus
statement about this at  



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apt-get kernel upgrade?

[Tim Verry]

Yow!  I'm going to have to look into that.  If it's that easy...  I think I 
can set up lilo so I can still boot to the old one?
Will it try to preserve my current configuration to the point of not 
installing the smbfs part?  And if not, how would it know what to change?

On Monday 25 November 2002 17:42, sean finney wrote:
> i think your problem is that the kernel installed by default doesn't
> seem to support smbfs.  if you're not completely attached to said kernel
> and want to join the rest of the 2.4 world, i recommend:
>
> # apt-get install kernel-image-2.4.18
>
> you may need to add a line to lilo.conf about initrd (not sure) before
>
> On Mon, Nov 25, 2002 at 04:58:38PM -0500, Tim Verry wrote:
> > I've never compiled any kernels.  I'm curious though how to do it if it's
> > the answer to this problem.  Hopefully then I can figure out what went
> > wrong.
>
> it probably is--if you're feeling adventurous:
>
> # apt-get install kernel-package kernel-source-2.4.18
>
> the former has an excellent cmdline program make-kpkg which automates lots
> of the stuff and gives you a .deb package you can install with dpkg, and
> the latter is the actual source tree.  i'd recommend reading up on the
> docs for both.
>
> hth
>   sean
>
> > I assume that it should have just been in the kernel, right?  I can count
> > on one hand the times I limped through downloading and installing
> > something without dselect.
> >
> > On Monday 25 November 2002 16:23, nate wrote:
> > > Tim Verry said:
> > > > Woody with kernel 2.2.20, newest KDE, updated apache, sendmail,
> > > > webmin installed, other than that pretty basic.
> > >
> > > from the rest of your comments i get the idea that you possibly
> > > compiled your own 2.2.20 kernel. the smbfs is part of the kernel not
> > > part of samba. smbfs in samba I belive is limited to the wrapper
> > > scripts to call mount.
> > >
> > > If you are running a debianized 2.2.20 kernel which version of the
> > > image are you running? (dpkg --status kernel-image-2.2.20).
> > >
> > > nate
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Re: Looking for a backup to CD-R(W) program

[Karl E. Jorgensen]

On Mon, Nov 25, 2002 at 08:08:53PM -0500, Joe Nahmias wrote:
> Chris,
> 
> Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought Linus himself said that using
> dump on live (mounted) filesystems was a bad idea.  I'll see if I can
> dig up a reference to it...

He doesn't use dump:

Real Men don't make backups.  They upload it via ftp and let the
world mirror it.
-- Linus Torvalds


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Re: smbfs just isn't there

[Tim Verry]

On Monday 25 November 2002 18:00, nate wrote:

> that shows all the packages in woody which have the smbfs.o file(kernel
> module). the default 2.2.20 kernel appears to have it, is there not
> a /lib/modules/2.2.20/fs/smbfs.o on your system?

Nope.  But the stuff in /lib/modules/2.2.20-idepci/fs are all things that are 
NOT in use, such as ntfs.o

I can't find it at all, used "locate" and KDE's "find files".  Would there be 
any harm in just acquiring this file and throwing it in there?

Seneca, no dice.  But a puzzling clue.  

> apt-get install smbfs

thea:/# apt-get install smbfs
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
Sorry, smbfs is already the newest version.
0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 50  not upgraded.


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Re: Looking for a backup to CD-R(W) program

[Joe Nahmias]

Chris,

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought Linus himself said that using
dump on live (mounted) filesystems was a bad idea.  I'll see if I can
dig up a reference to it...

Thanks for your help!
Joe

> Chris Lale wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > Incremental daily backup:
> > dump -3u -z -M -B 65 -f /bkp/home/monday.dump /home
> > 
> 
> 
> Whoops! that should be -9 not -3:
> dump -9u -z -M -B 65 -f /bkp/home/daily.dump /home
> 
> The -9 switch causes dump to archive only files that do not exist in the
> backup with the next lowest number - in this case the backup for week1 
> (-5). You could make a backup for week2 using the -6 switch, and the 
> next daily backup (-9) would contain only new files not contained in the 
> week2 backup.
> 
> 
> Ht is clearer,
> 
>   Chris.


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Re: Postfix server acting as relay !!!!

[Curtis Vaughan]

I have changed my main.cf with the following. Do you think this might work?

I unquoted the parameter:
local_recipient_maps = unix:passwd.byname
and then added to smtpd_client_restrictions, permit_local_recipient_maps



I'm not using SASL actually, although I would love to. I just haven't 
gotten to configuring that yet.

Curtis

nate wrote:
Curtis Vaughan said:


I thought I had fixed my server so it wouldn't relay, but I just now
looked at the queue and OH MY GOD!!!



your main.cf looks good to me. if someone is relaying through you
perhaps they are spoofing their ip address? I reccomend blocking
all non routable ips at your firewall. Either that or perhaps the
sasl thing is broken?(I've never used it), maybe it is allowing
everyone through ..

nate




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Re: Postfix server acting as relay !!!!

[Curtis Vaughan]

I'm not using SASL actually, although I would love to. I just haven't 
gotten to configuring that yet.

Curtis

nate wrote:
Curtis Vaughan said:


I thought I had fixed my server so it wouldn't relay, but I just now
looked at the queue and OH MY GOD!!!



your main.cf looks good to me. if someone is relaying through you
perhaps they are spoofing their ip address? I reccomend blocking
all non routable ips at your firewall. Either that or perhaps the
sasl thing is broken?(I've never used it), maybe it is allowing
everyone through ..

nate








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Re: Non-Linux-aware ISP: please spoon feed

[nate]

Karl E. Jorgensen said:

> To the front line people it is almost as comprehensible as Greek with a
> Urdu dialect.  Whenever I call my ISP reporting problems with them I
> prentend that I'm in front of the other OS.

yeah, reminds me of a few episodes..

ISP: Please reboot your computer
me: I don't need to reboot, I just reset the interfaces
ISP: Please reboot your computer
me: I don't need to reboot what will that do for me
ISP: Please reboot your computer
me: ok, rebooting ..
(10 seconds later, meanwhile of course I do not reboot)
me: ok its back, same problem
ISP: ok then onto the next step ..

funny how at least I've never been questioned how I can shut down and
reboot and come back up in 10 seconds. hell my switch takes longer then
that to reboot(about 60 seconds).

nate




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Re: test, don't read

[Karl E. Jorgensen]

On Mon, Nov 25, 2002 at 07:04:42PM -0500, Darryl L. Pierce wrote:
> On 2002.11.25 18:53 Daniel Pecos wrote:
> 
> 
> OH MY GOD! I ACCIDENTALLY READ IT! MY EYES! MY EYES! THEY'RE BURNING! 
> A!!

It must be your caps-lock key glowing. Just aim the keyboard away from
you...

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Re: Postfix server acting as relay !!!!

[nate]

Curtis Vaughan said:
> I thought I had fixed my server so it wouldn't relay, but I just now
> looked at the queue and OH MY GOD!!!

your main.cf looks good to me. if someone is relaying through you
perhaps they are spoofing their ip address? I reccomend blocking
all non routable ips at your firewall. Either that or perhaps the
sasl thing is broken?(I've never used it), maybe it is allowing
everyone through ..

nate




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Re: Non-Linux-aware ISP: please spoon feed

[Karl E. Jorgensen]

Hi

On Mon, Nov 25, 2002 at 11:32:08PM +, Pigeon wrote:
> I am trying to set up my Linux box to connect to my Waitrose ISP
> account. I am using this one rather than my ukonline one because
> ukonline requires my box to fetch DNS addresses every time it logs on,
> whereas Waitrose has static ones - keep it simple.

That shouldn't really complicate things - pppd can take of that bit too
if you use the 'usepeerdns' option (and the ISP is willing to send them
to you upon connect).

> I have run pppconfig and entered all the details it asks for, no
> problem. I have followed the instructions in
> /usr/doc/HOWTO/ISP-Hookup-HOWTO.2.html to the letter, and set up the
> various files in /etc as that document describes. I get stuck at
> setting up /etc/ppp/chatscripts. The HOWTO has for this file:
> 
> 
> >CONNECT ""
> >TIMEOUT 5
> >"name:" ppp
> >
> >
> >The last line specifies that one is expecting a prompt that ends with
> >name:, and that the response should be ppp when it arrives.
> >Other systems may have other login procedures.
> 
> I thought "may != will" so tried it verbatim, just to see what would
> happen. It dials up, negotiates the communication speed, apparently
> fails to log on, and hangs up after a few seconds - not entirely to my
> surprise.

All ISP's I know of are quite happy to go straight to PPP negotiation
once the modems are talking - the PPP protocol takes care of the
authentification.

But first: Get some more diagnostics out of the chat command by:
1) make backups of any files you change below !
2) let ppp call chat with the -v -s options
3) try (possibly as root): 'pppd nodetach debug call '
   where  is the name of the file in /etc/ppp/peers
4) don't forget step #1...

The above should result in the chat output going to your terminal.

If it appears that the ISP is sending gibberish after the modem reports
CONNECT (a burst every few seconds), then the ISP is probably going
straight to PPP.  (Or you have some very weird line noise :-). If so,
then the last line in the chat script should probably just be:
CONNECT ""

Next is configuring the rest of ppp, with passwords etc. 
/usr/share/doc/HOWTO/en-html/mini/ISP-Connectivity-2.html should help
you along here.

> So I asked [EMAIL PROTECTED] for the necessary details, and got the
> wonderfully helpful response "we don't support Linux, please ask
> again, we can tell you if you tell us what you've put in already"...
> huh? I had already given them the above example from the HOWTO and
> said that's what I want...


To the front line people it is almost as comprehensible as Greek with a
Urdu dialect.  Whenever I call my ISP reporting problems with them I
prentend that I'm in front of the other OS.  I have the correct answers
memorised to delete/recreate dial-up networking connections and a
suitable pause for reboots...

The great irony is that most ISP use linux (or *bsd) behind the scenes
anyway...


> I also lack the details by which the server may authenticate itself.
> /etc/ppp/options warns me not to disable this (though I have at the
> moment).

Although the PPP protocol is symmetic, most ISP simply want to make sure
that you are who you say you are (caller line identification
nonwithstanding), and are unwilling to attempt to authenticate
themselves to you...  

They don't regard the provider-customer relationship to be symmetric...

Just put a "noauth" line in the relevant file - /etc/ppp/peers/*. Don't
put it in /etc/ppp/options, though.

> I fear that these slightly surreal conversations will result every
> time I try to ask this ISP a question.

Sometimes it is possible to get through to somebody who knows what
they're talking about.  E.g. have a windows box ready to let you get
past the front-line people. (vmware is great for that; just rollback the
disk afterwards).

> Please could someone suggest exactly the right questions to ask the
> ISP, so I don't have to keep ding-donging emails back and forth,
> rebooting from Linux to Windoze all the time cos the Linux box isn't
> on line yet?

Personally I would consider switching ISPs. There are linux-friendly
ISPs around - e.g. uklinux.net. No doubt there are others. For more
freedom, keep your email address independent of your ISP, e.g. by having
your own (sub)domain, and keep the ISP-provided email for backup if
things go wrong...

> Better yet, is there any online fill-in-the-boxes document that I can
> send them and say "please fill in this form"?

Good luck :-)

> A copy of the conversation so far is appended.

[...]

> >Primary DNS server: 192.126.82.5
> >Secondary DNS server: 192.126.86.9

You probably guessed that the DNS IP addresses go in /etc/resolv.conf ...

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Re: test, don't read

[Hugh Saunders]

On Mon, Nov 25, 2002 at 07:04:42PM -0500, Darryl L. Pierce wrote:
> OH MY GOD! I ACCIDENTALLY READ IT! MY EYES! MY EYES! THEY'RE BURNING! 
> A!!

thats strange, mine are fine, do you need a new monitor??


hugh


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Postfix server acting as relay !!!!

[Curtis Vaughan]

I thought I had fixed my server so it wouldn't relay, but I just now 
looked at the queue and OH MY GOD!!!

Here is my main.cf

Any ideas


Curtis
# see /usr/share/postfix/main.cf.dist for a commented, fuller
# version of this file.

# Do not change these directory settings - they are critical to Postfix
# operation.
command_directory = /usr/sbin
daemon_directory = /usr/lib/postfix
program_directory = /usr/lib/postfix

mail_owner = postfix

smtpd_banner = $myhostname ESMTP $mail_name (Debian/GNU)
setgid_group = postdrop
biff = no

# appending .domain is the MUA's job.
append_dot_mydomain = no
myhostname = pacifica.vostok1.com
mydomain = vostok1.com
alias_maps = hash:/etc/aliases, ldap:ldapdata
myorigin = /etc/mailname
# mydestination = Pacifica.Vostok1.com, localhost.Vostok1.com, localhost
mydestination = $mydomain, $myhostname, localhost.$mydomain, localhost
#relayhost = 
mynetworks = 10.0.1.0/24, 10.0.0.0/24 

local_transport = cyrus
#mailbox_transport = lmtp:unix:/cyrus/socket/lmtp
mailbox_transport = cyrus

#smtpd_recipient_restrictions = permit_sasl_authenticated
smtpd_client_restrictions = permit_sasl_authenticated, permit_mynetworks, 
reject_unknown_client
smtpd_delay_reject = yes

#local_recipient_maps = unix:passwd.byname

mailbox_command = 
mailbox_size_limit = 0
recipient_delimiter = 
#relayhost = 

#relay_domains = $mydestination, $virtual_domains
#virtual_domains = pacificseabass.com, vostok.pt, npc-usa.com 

Re: Intel(r) AC'97 Audio Controller - SigmaTel Codec

[Oleg]

On Monday 25 November 2002 02:24 pm, Jeremy Petzold wrote:
> you need to patch the kernel with the ACPI patch and then compile all the
> ACPI options(except one near the top of the list that blanks out the rest)
> into the kernel. then you will magicly have sound as long as you have your
> sound module and sound support set as modules or compiled in.

Since nothing else works, looks like I'm going to have to try this ACPI 
patch, but I'm not quite sure about a couple of things. 

Debian Woody 2.4.18 already has some patches applied to it, and the ACPI web 
site only offers patches for vanilla kernels [1] Should I stop using the 
Debian kernel then? (there is the same dilemma with swsusp, if I decide to 
use it in the future)

Oleg

[1] http://sourceforge.net/projects/acpi


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Re: "Burn" CD audio to a file

[Bill Moseley]

At 11:31 PM 11/25/02 +, Pigeon wrote:
>I don't see why this shouldn't work with a loopback-mounted ISO image
>- as per Sean's suggestion - if I understand correctly, the loopback
>mounting system is transparent, so whatever is reading the
>loopback-mounted image sees it as a normal CD drive, and any
>CD-specific ioctls are handled correctly. I haven't actually tried
>this; I'm ashamed to confess I use Cool Edit in Windoze for what
>you're trying to do.

I'd think there would need to be some driver layer for the loopback to
work.  After all it has to report back things like "nodisk".

>The quick fudge option would be to burn the music to a CD-RW, and play
>it using the play button on your CD drive, cos your hi-fi's CD player
>won't read CD-RWs (AARGH).

The indicator that it's time for a thread to die is when people start
suggesting to use "foo" when the original question was "how to I do bar
without using foo?"... ;)

I'll report back if I find anything out interesting.


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Re: NIS Slave can't be auto-discovered

[nate]

Ian Melnick said:

> Anyway, I was wondering what that "thing" was, so that I could configure
> the slave server the same way so that reconfiguration of the clients
> wasn't necessary, and they'd auto-discover the slave when the master
> wasn't available.

probably broadcast mode:

   -broadcast
  Send  a broadcast to request the information needed
  to bind to a specific NIS server. With this option,
  /etc/yp.conf will be ignored.

back when I ran NIS though I preferred to put the ips of the servers
in yp.conf. Unless your slave servers change often, mine were always
the same address

nate




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Re: smbfs just isn't there

[Seneca]

On Mon, Nov 25, 2002 at 04:06:26PM -0500, Tim Verry wrote:
> 
> mount -t smbfs -o username=me,password=foobar //server/share /dir/dir
> ERROR: smbfs filesystem not supported by the kernel
> Please refer to the smbmnt(8) manual page
> smbmnt failed: 255
 
> Have a variety of samba tools installed, in spite of their (at least partial) 
> dependance on smbfs none of them installed it or checked if it was installed.  
> smbclient works fine, creating smb shares works fine, the only Samba thing 
> that doesn't work is smbmount.

apt-get install smbfs

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Re: Non-Linux-aware ISP: please spoon feed

[nate]

Pigeon said:

> Please could someone suggest exactly the right questions to ask the ISP,
> so I don't have to keep ding-donging emails back and forth,
> rebooting from Linux to Windoze all the time cos the Linux box isn't on
> line yet?

What I would ask:

- what terminal server equipment do they use? Common is Ascend MAX, Ascend
TNT, Livingston portmaster.
- what method of authentication do they use? Most common is PAP. Though
some shitty ISPs may use CHAP(never had one that did, but its possible).
Even worse are some ISPs may require you to login and execute a command.
Even worse are ones that use their own software to connect and thats the
only way. If they don't use PAP I would look elsewhere.
- What are the IPs of the nameservers(good nameservers to use can usually
be found by doing WHOIS on the domain of the isp as well).
- What is the IP of the default gateway

I haven't had to look for a dialup isp since 1996 or was it 1997, when
I did, I used a website that listed all my local isps(at the time around
200), and I spent about 8 hours emailing support emails and admin emails
asking intensive questions. Out of about 50 emails I sent out I narrowed
it down to 2 ISPs. So I signed up for both. Cancelled one of them a few
months later based soley on the fact they had only a 128k ISDN uplink
and often it was saturated. Otherwise the service was great.

Other questions I asked
- What is your connection to the internet(ISDN, T1, T3 etc)
- What OS powers your network(I was looking for someone who used SunOS/Solaris
because in the past my isps which used it were rock solid, keep in mind
this was 1996, and I didn't know a whole lot about linux back then).
- How many hours/month can I stay online?(I was kicked off a few isps
for staying on too long). This one was key, the ISP I ended up with
gave me a response like:

"Lets see theres 24 hours in a day, and approx 30 days in a month,
so take 24*30=720 so you can stay on about 720 hours/month" And for the
2-3 years I used them they never complained once. And I never got a busy
signal when calling.

In the end I think the isp sorta went down the drain, they stopped billing
people, 2 of my friends signed up and got free service for 6-8 months. Maybe
their billing software wasn't good(they used quickbooks on a mac). The
admin there was wonderfully friendly and very knowledable, he would
quickly respond to my emails with informative detailled responses. I only
wish they were a bigger company to server more people. The ISP is
netquest.net, only served the southern california area(I moved to washington
in 2000).

The current ISP I use is theriver.com(formerally oz.net). They too do
not officially support linux. Their level 1 techs are aboslute idiots. But
their service is perfectly compadible with any system that can talk ethernet.
And their level 2 techs as well as their engineers are much more knowledgable
and responsive. I fought with their level 1 techs when I first got my
service. He was arguing to me "sir if you ran windows I'd have you up and
going by now" and "yes I can ping your IP address". That information
conflicted with my cisco 675 router at the time which said it had recieved
0 IP packets, and had sent 0 IP packets. After 10 minutes of fighting I gave
up, and told them I would play with it on my own. After I hung up, 5 minutes
later I had it fixed. Turns out the Modem/router was in the wrong mode. There
are ~5 modes it can be in, my ISP required bridging mode, but there was at
least 2 different kinds of bridging, once I switched my bridging to the
"other" kind, the modem immediately started working.

Aim for the small isps if you can, generally better service, and better
support even though it may cost a bit more(I pay ~$200/mo for my 1Mbit
DSL service with 4 IPs). Drill the ISP's support and admin staff(in some
cases support and admin is the same person), depending on their responses
would determine my willingness to use them.

hopefully theres an isp like netquest.net or theriver running in your
area.

nate
(used to run a small DSL/dialup isp, still do, sorta, with about 30
accounts left and dialup farmed out to a 3rd party)



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Re: test, don't read

[Darryl L. Pierce]

On 2002.11.25 18:53 Daniel Pecos wrote:


OH MY GOD! I ACCIDENTALLY READ IT! MY EYES! MY EYES! THEY'RE BURNING! 
A!!

:)

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Re: Non-Linux-aware ISP: please spoon feed

[John Hasler]

Pigeon writes:
> I am trying to set up my Linux box to connect to my Waitrose ISP
> account. I am using this one rather than my ukonline one because ukonline
> requires my box to fetch DNS addresses every time it logs on,...

Ppp can deal with this.  Just select 'Dynamic' in the 'Configure
Nameservers' screen in pppconfig.

> I have run pppconfig and entered all the details it asks for, no problem.

> I have followed the instructions in
> /usr/doc/HOWTO/ISP-Hookup-HOWTO.2.html to the letter, and set up the
> various files in /etc as that document describes.

You don't need to do any of that.  That's what pppconfig is for.  Undo all
the manual changes you made, run pppconfig again, and select 'PAP'
authentication (which is what they almost certainly use).  If that doesn't
work run pppconfig again and change the authentication method to 'CHAP'.
If that fails dial in to them using minicom and work through the login
procedure by hand while taking notes.  Then go back to pppconfig, select
'CHAT' authentication, and fill in the required info by referring to your
notes.

I assume that they have already given you a username and password?
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NIS Slave can't be auto-discovered

[Ian Melnick]

Hello, all

I set up a NIS master a while ago, for use with a small network. Since
then it's grown, and I found a need for a NIS slave for times that the
master has gone down due to hardware upgrades, etc.

So I set up the slave, and it seems to work right. Clients switch to it
when NIS is no longer available from the master. However: this switching
only works when I specify both servers in the /etc/yp.conf on the
client machines. Before, I didn't need to specify anything in
/etc/yp.conf. I used to have to specify the master, but then one day did
something so that it wasn't required anymore (either that or it was a
feature that I hadn't noticed previously or something). So that saved me
typing the master server's IP into all the yp.conf files on the clients.

Anyway, I was wondering what that "thing" was, so that I could configure
the slave server the same way so that reconfiguration of the clients
wasn't necessary, and they'd auto-discover the slave when the master
wasn't available.

Thanks!
/ian.


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ipchains syslog facility

[Jeffrey Taylor]

In Debian 3.0r0, what syslog facility does IPchains log to?  The
messages are showing up on all virtual terminals, but not in any of
the /var/log files.

TIA,
  Jeffrey


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Re: Non-Linux-aware ISP: please spoon feed

[Patrick Wiseman]

Can you dial in manually and record the dialog?  It's been a long time
since I had to do that, but that's how I did it years ago.

Patrick

On Mon, 25 Nov 2002 at 11:32pm, Pigeon wrote:

:I am trying to set up my Linux box to connect to my Waitrose ISP
:account. I am using this one rather than my ukonline one because
:ukonline requires my box to fetch DNS addresses every time it logs on,
:whereas Waitrose has static ones - keep it simple.
:
:I have run pppconfig and entered all the details it asks for, no
:problem. I have followed the instructions in
:/usr/doc/HOWTO/ISP-Hookup-HOWTO.2.html to the letter, and set up the
:various files in /etc as that document describes. I get stuck at
:setting up /etc/ppp/chatscripts. The HOWTO has for this file:
:
:
:>CONNECT ""
:>TIMEOUT 5
:>"name:" ppp
:>
:>The last line specifies that one is expecting a prompt that ends with
:>name:, and that the response should be ppp when it arrives.
:>Other systems may have other login procedures.
:
:I thought "may != will" so tried it verbatim, just to see what would
:happen. It dials up, negotiates the communication speed, apparently
:fails to log on, and hangs up after a few seconds - not entirely to my
:surprise.
:
:So I asked [EMAIL PROTECTED] for the necessary details, and got the
:wonderfully helpful response "we don't support Linux, please ask
:again, we can tell you if you tell us what you've put in already"...
:huh? I had already given them the above example from the HOWTO and
:said that's what I want...
:
:I also lack the details by which the server may authenticate itself.
:/etc/ppp/options warns me not to disable this (though I have at the
:moment).
:
:I fear that these slightly surreal conversations will result every
:time I try to ask this ISP a question.
:
:Please could someone suggest exactly the right questions to ask the
:ISP, so I don't have to keep ding-donging emails back and forth,
:rebooting from Linux to Windoze all the time cos the Linux box isn't
:on line yet?
:
:Better yet, is there any online fill-in-the-boxes document that I can
:send them and say "please fill in this form"?
:
:A copy of the conversation so far is appended.
:
:Thanks,
:
:Pigeon
:
:=
:>>- Original Message -
:>>From: "Pigeon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
:>>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
:>>Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 5:31 PM
:>>Subject: Linux setup for waitrose account
:>>
:>>
:>>> Hi,
:>>>
:>>> I am trying to set up my Linux system to access my waitrose account
:>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] I read in the Linux documentation that I should
:>>> configure /etc/ppp/chatscript according to this example:
:>>> >
:>>> >TIMEOUT 5
:>>> >"" ATZ
:>>> >OK ATDT12345678
:>>> >ABORT "NO CARRIER"
:>>> >ABORT BUSY
:>>> >ABORT "NO DIALTONE"
:>>> >ABORT WAITING
:>>> >TIMEOUT 45
:>>> >CONNECT ""
:>>> >TIMEOUT 5
:>>> >"name:" ppp
:>>> >
:>>> >The last line specifies that one is expecting a prompt that ends with
:>>> >name:, and that the response should be ppp when it arrives.
:>>> >Other systems may have other login procedures.
:>>> >
:>>>
:>>> Please could you let me know what the prompt and expected response for
:>>> my account are, and any other connection details of a similar nature.
:>>> As you can see from the above, setting up Linux for internet access
:>>> requires lots of nitty gritty details to be entered by hand. I have no
:>>> objection to doing this, as long as I know what they are.
:>>>
:>>> Many thanks
:>>>
:>>> Pigeon
:>>
:>On Mon, 25 Nov 2002 19:44:24 -, "Technical Support" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:>
:>>Dear Sir,
:>>
:>>Thank you for your email.
:>>
:>>We do not provide support for Linux but can confirm any settings that you
:>>may require to enter. Can you please inform us of all the details (in
:>>regards to Waitrose) that you have used for configuration purposes.
:>>
:>>regards,
:>>
:>>nick
:>>
:>>Waitrose Technical Support
:>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
:>>Tel: 0800 376 7060
:>>
:>Hi,
:>
:>The details specific to Waitrose are:
:>
:>Username: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
:>Password: [the real password]
:>Dialup number: 08450796899
:>Primary DNS server: 192.126.82.5
:>Secondary DNS server: 192.126.86.9
:>
:>and the chatscript example given, with phone number modified accordingly
:>and the last line (login prompt/response) currently unconfigured because
:>I don't know the settings for Waitrose.
:>
:>I also need to know the means by which the server can authenticate 
:>itself. I am required to enter a password into a file on my system 
:>for this purpose.
:>
:>Thanks,
:>
:>Pigeon
:>
:
:
:

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test, don't read

[Daniel Pecos]

 
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Re: Correction: ext2 vs ext3 vs xfs vs reiserfs

[John Hasler]

Cameron Hutchison writes:
> This was in response to the fsck.xfs man page that says it does nothing.
> I was too hasty in saying this.  There is another tool called xfs_repair
> that is used to repair XFS filesystems.

The fsck.xfs man page should direct the reader to xfs_repair.
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Re: Correction: ext2 vs ext3 vs xfs vs reiserfs

[Noah L. Meyerhans]

On Tue, Nov 26, 2002 at 10:18:28AM +1100, Cameron Hutchison wrote:
> There is another tool called xfs_repair that is used to repair XFS
> filesystems.

The problem with xfs_repair is that it can't be used on a mounted
filesystem (even mounted read-only).  This means, of course, that if
your root filesystem is XFS and gets screwed up, you're in trouble.
You'll have to boot to an alternate root and use xfs_repair from there.

I also wish that XFS (and others, really) could give some indication
about when data corruption occurred.  I used to run a Debian mirror on
an XFS filesystem, and started getting reports of bad checksums on .debs
pulled from it.  It turns out that the machine went down due to a power
outtage in the middle of a mirror update, which caused all sorts of
filesystem corruption.  When the machine was brought back up, there was
no sign of trouble so I didn't think any more about it.  It turns out
that I should have.

FWIW, that mirror is now running ext3, and I have nothing bad to say
about it.

While on this topic, I was at a presentation on Linux filesystems at the
USENIX Annual Tech.  Conference in California in June.  A lot of
comparisons were done between XFS, ext2, ext3, reiserfs, and JFS.  The
conclusions they presented were that reiserfs is really good with lots
of little files, XFS is really good with multi-gigabyte files, and
ext2/3 are good for all-around stuff.  For the average Linux user (and
that includes the average Linux server), the other filesystems really
aren't going to give you anything that ext2/3 doesn't give you.

noah

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Re: Correction: ext2 vs ext3 vs xfs vs reiserfs

[Richard Hector]

On Tue, 2002-11-26 at 12:18, Cameron Hutchison wrote:
> In a previous email to this list I stated:
> 
> > The authors of XFS seem to think that because it is a journalling
> > filesystem, a filesystem repair tool is not necessary.
> 
> This was in response to the fsck.xfs man page that says it does nothing.
> 
> I was too hasty in saying this.
> 
> There is another tool called xfs_repair that is used to repair XFS
> filesystems.
> 
> I apologise to the XFS developers for making that unfounded statement
> without checking my facts first.

Perhaps it would be useful if the fsck.xfs manpage directed you to
xfs_repair, though.

Richard



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Non-Linux-aware ISP: please spoon feed

[Pigeon]

I am trying to set up my Linux box to connect to my Waitrose ISP
account. I am using this one rather than my ukonline one because
ukonline requires my box to fetch DNS addresses every time it logs on,
whereas Waitrose has static ones - keep it simple.

I have run pppconfig and entered all the details it asks for, no
problem. I have followed the instructions in
/usr/doc/HOWTO/ISP-Hookup-HOWTO.2.html to the letter, and set up the
various files in /etc as that document describes. I get stuck at
setting up /etc/ppp/chatscripts. The HOWTO has for this file:


>CONNECT ""
>TIMEOUT 5
>"name:" ppp
>
>The last line specifies that one is expecting a prompt that ends with
>name:, and that the response should be ppp when it arrives.
>Other systems may have other login procedures.

I thought "may != will" so tried it verbatim, just to see what would
happen. It dials up, negotiates the communication speed, apparently
fails to log on, and hangs up after a few seconds - not entirely to my
surprise.

So I asked [EMAIL PROTECTED] for the necessary details, and got the
wonderfully helpful response "we don't support Linux, please ask
again, we can tell you if you tell us what you've put in already"...
huh? I had already given them the above example from the HOWTO and
said that's what I want...

I also lack the details by which the server may authenticate itself.
/etc/ppp/options warns me not to disable this (though I have at the
moment).

I fear that these slightly surreal conversations will result every
time I try to ask this ISP a question.

Please could someone suggest exactly the right questions to ask the
ISP, so I don't have to keep ding-donging emails back and forth,
rebooting from Linux to Windoze all the time cos the Linux box isn't
on line yet?

Better yet, is there any online fill-in-the-boxes document that I can
send them and say "please fill in this form"?

A copy of the conversation so far is appended.

Thanks,

Pigeon

=
>>- Original Message -
>>From: "Pigeon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 5:31 PM
>>Subject: Linux setup for waitrose account
>>
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I am trying to set up my Linux system to access my waitrose account
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] I read in the Linux documentation that I should
>>> configure /etc/ppp/chatscript according to this example:
>>> >
>>> >TIMEOUT 5
>>> >"" ATZ
>>> >OK ATDT12345678
>>> >ABORT "NO CARRIER"
>>> >ABORT BUSY
>>> >ABORT "NO DIALTONE"
>>> >ABORT WAITING
>>> >TIMEOUT 45
>>> >CONNECT ""
>>> >TIMEOUT 5
>>> >"name:" ppp
>>> >
>>> >The last line specifies that one is expecting a prompt that ends with
>>> >name:, and that the response should be ppp when it arrives.
>>> >Other systems may have other login procedures.
>>> >
>>>
>>> Please could you let me know what the prompt and expected response for
>>> my account are, and any other connection details of a similar nature.
>>> As you can see from the above, setting up Linux for internet access
>>> requires lots of nitty gritty details to be entered by hand. I have no
>>> objection to doing this, as long as I know what they are.
>>>
>>> Many thanks
>>>
>>> Pigeon
>>
>On Mon, 25 Nov 2002 19:44:24 -, "Technical Support" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>Dear Sir,
>>
>>Thank you for your email.
>>
>>We do not provide support for Linux but can confirm any settings that you
>>may require to enter. Can you please inform us of all the details (in
>>regards to Waitrose) that you have used for configuration purposes.
>>
>>regards,
>>
>>nick
>>
>>Waitrose Technical Support
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Tel: 0800 376 7060
>>
>Hi,
>
>The details specific to Waitrose are:
>
>Username: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Password: [the real password]
>Dialup number: 08450796899
>Primary DNS server: 192.126.82.5
>Secondary DNS server: 192.126.86.9
>
>and the chatscript example given, with phone number modified accordingly
>and the last line (login prompt/response) currently unconfigured because
>I don't know the settings for Waitrose.
>
>I also need to know the means by which the server can authenticate 
>itself. I am required to enter a password into a file on my system 
>for this purpose.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Pigeon
>


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Re: "Burn" CD audio to a file

[Pigeon]

On Mon, 25 Nov 2002 14:11:14 -0500, Hubert Chan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>> "Vineet" == Vineet Kumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>Vineet> * Bill Moseley ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [021125 06:51]:
>>>  Is there any way to emulate a cdrom device?  Granted CDRs are
>>> inexpensive, but I was wondering if there was a way to "burn" a cd to
>>> a file for testing and they play it like an audio CD.
>
>Vineet> You won't be able to play it like an audio CD.  When your CD-ROM
>Vineet> drive does this, it does it at a much lower level; the OS just
>Vineet> gives it cd-player-style commands like "play" "stop" "skip",
>Vineet> etc, rather than reading the bits of music and feeding them to
>Vineet> the soundcard.  The CD-ROM is connected directly to the
>Vineet> soundcard and just spews the music over there without processing
>Vineet> it at all.  So until you put the music under the laser, you
>Vineet> won't be able to test it "like and audio CD."
>
>Some CD players, e.g. alsaplayer and the xmms-cdread plugin, read the
>digital audio from the disk, and dump it to the sound card.  This lets
>alsaplayer do funky stuff, like playback at double speed for the
>Chipmunks version, or playing the CD backwards to check if your band has
>been inserting subliminal messages (YVAN EHT NIOJ).  But they might
>still use CD-specific ioctl's, which would prevent them from working on
>plain files.

It is possible to read the music files on a CD digitally and pass them
to the soundcard. I am sure of this because I don't have an analogue
cable to connect either CD drive to the soundcard, but I can still
play CDs. I have used sox from the console - not very often; I usually
play CDs on my hi-fi.

I can't remember whether sox can read the CD directly or whether I had
to pipe the output from cdda2wav to sox; I think the latter.

I don't see why this shouldn't work with a loopback-mounted ISO image
- as per Sean's suggestion - if I understand correctly, the loopback
mounting system is transparent, so whatever is reading the
loopback-mounted image sees it as a normal CD drive, and any
CD-specific ioctls are handled correctly. I haven't actually tried
this; I'm ashamed to confess I use Cool Edit in Windoze for what
you're trying to do.

The quick fudge option would be to burn the music to a CD-RW, and play
it using the play button on your CD drive, cos your hi-fi's CD player
won't read CD-RWs (AARGH).


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Re: Compiling kernel for AMD CPU with gcc 3.02 How?

[Pigeon]

On Mon, 25 Nov 2002 11:06:47 -0600, "John Foster"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>How do you tell "make-kpkg buildpackage" to use the gcc 3.02 compiler
>instead of the gcc 2.95 'default' compiler? Sorry I can not find
>anything about this. I ave read that this newer 3.02 compiler is
>required for AMD chip maximizing and I have had zero luck getting a
>kernel to build "that works" using the A7 for athlon xp 1.8 cpu
>selection in the .config file. ANY advice is appreciated. Thanks.
>John

Revolting hack that works for me: (edit as required)

su root
cd /usr/bin
mv gcc gcc.old
ln -s gcc-3.02 gcc

Pigeon


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Correction: ext2 vs ext3 vs xfs vs reiserfs

[Cameron Hutchison]

In a previous email to this list I stated:

> The authors of XFS seem to think that because it is a journalling
> filesystem, a filesystem repair tool is not necessary.

This was in response to the fsck.xfs man page that says it does nothing.

I was too hasty in saying this.

There is another tool called xfs_repair that is used to repair XFS
filesystems.

I apologise to the XFS developers for making that unfounded statement
without checking my facts first.

I'm off to repair my XFS filesystem now (corrupted due to an IBM 75GXP 
hard drive, not due to any XFS error)


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Re: Same mountpoint multiple times

[nate]

Willi Dyck said:
> Hi *,
>
> today i found out that i can mount different sources to the same
> mountpoint! Am i ill? when was it implemented into the kernel? is it a
> bug? i am running woody, 2.4.18 with XFS fs patched in.

this has been the case for as long as I can remember. I do not believe
it is a bug no. It is sort of odd, but a directory is a directory.


nate




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Re: smbfs just isn't there

[nate]

Tim Verry said:
> Nope, just installed from 3.0_r0/i386/debian-30r0-i386-binary-1.iso
>
> I've never compiled any kernels.  I'm curious though how to do it if it's
> the  answer to this problem.  Hopefully then I can figure out what went
> wrong.
>
> I assume that it should have just been in the kernel, right?  I can count
> on  one hand the times I limped through downloading and installing
> something  without dselect.
>

http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=smbfs.o&searchmode=searchfiles&case=insensitive&version=stable&arch=i386

that shows all the packages in woody which have the smbfs.o file(kernel
module). the default 2.2.20 kernel appears to have it, is there not
a /lib/modules/2.2.20/fs/smbfs.o on your system?

if so, try insmod /lib/modules/2.2.20/fs/smbfs.o , perhaps for some
reason the system does not 'detect' the module so modprobe doesn't see it.


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Re: keyboard and mouse do not work in X

[Nathan E Norman]

On Mon, Nov 25, 2002 at 01:57:28PM -0800, Mike wrote:
> Hello everyone, first time poster long time troll :)

I think you mean _lurker_

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Same mountpoint multiple times

[Willi Dyck]

Hi *,

today i found out that i can mount different sources to the same
mountpoint! Am i ill? when was it implemented into the kernel? is it a
bug? i am running woody, 2.4.18 with XFS fs patched in.

thanks

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Re: "Burn" CD audio to a file

[csj]

On Mon, 25 Nov 2002 09:45:57 -0800
Vineet Kumar wrote:

> * Bill Moseley ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [021125 06:51]:
> > 
> > Is there any way to emulate a cdrom device?  Granted CDRs are
> > inexpensive, but I was wondering if there was a way to "burn"
> > a cd to a file for testing and they play it like an audio CD.
> 
> You won't be able to play it like an audio CD.  When your
> CD-ROM drive does this, it does it at a much lower level; the
> OS just gives it cd-player-style commands like "play" "stop"
> "skip", etc, rather than reading the bits of music and feeding
> them to the soundcard.  The CD-ROM is connected directly to the
> soundcard and just spews the music over there without
> processing it at all.  So until you put the music under the
> laser, you won't be able to test it "like and audio CD."

I have a simpler solution: a CD/RW.


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Re: ext2 vs ext3 vs xfs vs reiserfs

[David Z Maze]

Vincent Lefevre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Mon, Nov 25, 2002 at 12:16:13 -0800, nate wrote:
>> Cameron Hutchison said:
>> > The authors of XFS seem to think that because it is a journalling
>> > filesystem, a filesystem repair tool is not necessary.
>> 
>> yes this is true, I forgot about it. a few years ago I was replacing
>> a drive on a SGI box which was running XFS. The system refused to run
>> fsck. It told me something like 'you don't need to fsck a xfs volume',
>> even though the disk was failing and data was being lost at the time.
>
> Then, why is fsck necessary with ext3?

It frequently isn't, and the various Ext3 transition documents out
there generally advise you to reduce the fsck frequency (though not
disable it entirely, just in case).  If the system has merely crashed,
fsck will recover the journal (fast) and move on with life.  But IMHO
having a working fsck is vital if you have hardware problems and
things die randomly.  ext3 gets away with using ext2's fsck, which
means that the tool already exists.

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Re: smbfs just isn't there

[sean finney]

i think your problem is that the kernel installed by default doesn't
seem to support smbfs.  if you're not completely attached to said kernel
and want to join the rest of the 2.4 world, i recommend:

# apt-get install kernel-image-2.4.18

you may need to add a line to lilo.conf about initrd (not sure) before

On Mon, Nov 25, 2002 at 04:58:38PM -0500, Tim Verry wrote:
> I've never compiled any kernels.  I'm curious though how to do it if it's the 
> answer to this problem.  Hopefully then I can figure out what went wrong.  

it probably is--if you're feeling adventurous:

# apt-get install kernel-package kernel-source-2.4.18

the former has an excellent cmdline program make-kpkg which automates lots
of the stuff and gives you a .deb package you can install with dpkg, and
the latter is the actual source tree.  i'd recommend reading up on the
docs for both.

hth
sean




> 
> I assume that it should have just been in the kernel, right?  I can count on 
> one hand the times I limped through downloading and installing something 
> without dselect.   
> 
> 
> On Monday 25 November 2002 16:23, nate wrote:
> > Tim Verry said:
> > > Woody with kernel 2.2.20, newest KDE, updated apache, sendmail, webmin
> > > installed, other than that pretty basic.
> >
> > from the rest of your comments i get the idea that you possibly compiled
> > your own 2.2.20 kernel. the smbfs is part of the kernel not part of
> > samba. smbfs in samba I belive is limited to the wrapper scripts to
> > call mount.
> >
> > If you are running a debianized 2.2.20 kernel which version of the image
> > are you running? (dpkg --status kernel-image-2.2.20).
> >
> > nate
> 
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Re: big libtoolize problem.

[Elizabeth Barham]

Xavier Bestel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Le lun 25/11/2002 à 23:01, Elizabeth Barham a écrit :
> 
> The problem is that I re-installed (apt-get --reinstall) libtool
> package, the auto(make,conf,etc.) packages, all packages to which the
> /usr/share/aclocal/*.m4 files belong, and then some more ... and I still
> have this problem. So ltmain.sh (which comes from libtool) has been
> replaced.

You may want to work through your version of ltmain.sh and determine
why those loops are not closed off properly.

> I use debian/unstable, and as many other developpers use it I don't
> think it's broken. My problem seems to be that some file, somewhere
> is corrupted, but I don't know which one.

Working through ltmain.sh would be a step in the right direction to
determine exactly what introduced the problem.

> Is there a command to reinstall all packages, without touching config
> files ? Or better, a command to verify the integrity of all installed
> packages, like rpm can do for redhat-based distros ?

Probably.

Elizabeth


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Re: big libtoolize problem.

[Xavier Bestel]

Le lun 25/11/2002 à 23:01, Elizabeth Barham a écrit :

> My guess is that ltmain.sh (which is distributed with libtool) is
> corrupted somehow and for some weird reason, those loops were not tied
> off properly.

The problem is that I re-installed (apt-get --reinstall) libtool
package, the auto(make,conf,etc.) packages, all packages to which the
/usr/share/aclocal/*.m4 files belong, and then some more ... and I still
have this problem. So ltmain.sh (which comes from libtool) has been
replaced.
I use debian/unstable, and as many other developpers use it I don't
think it's broken. My problem seems to be that some file, somewhere is
corrupted, but I don't know which one.
Is there a command to reinstall all packages, without touching config
files ? Or better, a command to verify the integrity of all installed
packages, like rpm can do for redhat-based distros ?

Thanks,
Xav




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Re: keyboard and mouse do not work in X

[Mark L. Kahnt]

On Mon, 2002-11-25 at 16:57, Mike wrote:
> Hello everyone, first time poster long time troll :)
> 
> I'm only having one problem with debian at the moment and that is whenever I
> start xdm/kdm/gdm my mouse and keyboard become unresponsive.  Unfortunately
> I'm pretty new to linux/debian so I'm not sure where to look to change the
> settings.  I'm running Xserver from the unstable tree and my mouse and
> keyboard are both wireless USB Logitech's.
> 
> If someone could point me in the right direction or just straight out tell
> me how to fix this issue I would be most pleased!
> 
> Thanks

You wouldn't have it set to check the network for computers capable of
providing you X sessions, would you? I have seen that effectively lock
up standalone systems in terms of user input to that box (you can still
get in from a networked box or one running on a serial port if you have
a getty on that port.) Look for references to xdmcp in your config files
in /etc/X11 and /etc/gdm (grep -r is a great friend for that) and see
that it is off if your machine is essentially standalone.
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Re: can't cp files from dvd

[Ron Johnson]

On Mon, 2002-11-25 at 08:15, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I was telling my kid about this last night, and he announced to me that
> he has no trouble copying them using cp on the command line of his apple
> mac (running the system 10.2).  That puzzles me, because I think that
> system is based on some sort of BSD, and I would have thought cp would
> work the same in both cases.

Probably Apple uses a proprietary dvd-encryption-aware filesystem 
driver.

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Re: smbfs just isn't there

[Tim Verry]

Nope, just installed from 3.0_r0/i386/debian-30r0-i386-binary-1.iso 

I've never compiled any kernels.  I'm curious though how to do it if it's the 
answer to this problem.  Hopefully then I can figure out what went wrong.  

I assume that it should have just been in the kernel, right?  I can count on 
one hand the times I limped through downloading and installing something 
without dselect.   


On Monday 25 November 2002 16:23, nate wrote:
> Tim Verry said:
> > Woody with kernel 2.2.20, newest KDE, updated apache, sendmail, webmin
> > installed, other than that pretty basic.
>
> from the rest of your comments i get the idea that you possibly compiled
> your own 2.2.20 kernel. the smbfs is part of the kernel not part of
> samba. smbfs in samba I belive is limited to the wrapper scripts to
> call mount.
>
> If you are running a debianized 2.2.20 kernel which version of the image
> are you running? (dpkg --status kernel-image-2.2.20).
>
> nate


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Re: big libtoolize problem.

[Elizabeth Barham]

Xavier Bestel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> /bin/sh ../libtool --mode=link gcc  -O2 -g -Wall -Wall   -o gimp-remote-1.3  
>gimp-remote.o -Wl,--export-dynamic
> -lgtk-x11-2.0 -lgdk-x11-2.0 -latk-1.0 -lgdk_pixbuf-2.0 -lm -lpangoxft-1.0 
>-lpangox-1.0 -lpango-1.0 -lgobject-2.0 -lgmodule-2.0 -ldl -lglib-2.0   
>-L/usr/X11R6/lib  -lSM -lICE -lX11 -lXmu -lXt
> ../libtool: line 4947: syntax error near unexpected token `done'
> ../libtool: line 4947: `done'
> 
> I have attached the generated libtool; there's effectively something
> really messed up inside, but I don't know why it's been born dead.

Looks like a bad ltmain.sh. If your version of libtool is part of a
distribution, you may want to file a bug report.

The problem is a parse error in that /bin/sh expects one token but
was given another, note the "ADDED" comments below:

# Handle -dlopen flags immediately.
for file in $execute_dlfiles; do
  if test ! -f "$file"; then
$echo "$modename: \`$file' is not a file" 1>&2
$echo "$help" 1>&2
exit 1
  fi

  dir=
  case $file in # [E]
  *.la)
# Check to see that this really is a libtool archive.
if (${SED} -e '2q' $file | egrep "^# Generated by .*$PACKAGE") >/dev/null 
2>&1; then :
else
  $echo "$modename: \`$lib' is not a valid libtool archive" 1>&2
  $echo "$help" 1>&2
  exit 1
fi

# Read the libtool library.
dlname=
library_names=

# If there is no directory component, then add one.
case $file in
*/* | *\\*) . $file ;;
*) . ./$file ;;
esac

# Skip this library if it cannot be dlopened.
if test -z "$dlname"; then # [a]
  # Warn if it was a he absolute pathname.
  absdir=`cd "$dir" && pwd`
  test -n "$absdir" && dir="$absdir"
fi # ADDED
  # Now add the directory to shlibpath_var.
  if eval "test -z \"\$$shlibpath_var\""; then # [b]
eval "$shlibpath_var=\"\$dir\""
  else
eval "$shlibpath_var=\"\$dir:\$$shlibpath_var\""
  fi # [c]
  esac # ADDED
done # [d]

Without the "Added!" parts

1) Bash goes into the [a] if, and then it looks for "fi".
2) At [b], it goes into another one, but this is closed at
   [c].
3) Then it hits "done" at [d], which doesn't make sense as
   the parser must have seen a token-wise immediately prior,
   but in fact has the "if" of [a] there.

To remedy, I closed off the if at [a], then added the "esac" to close
the "case" at [E].

This was not an exhaustive study, but with the added instructions,
this built the test library okay as where before it did not.

My guess is that ltmain.sh (which is distributed with libtool) is
corrupted somehow and for some weird reason, those loops were not tied
off properly.

Elizabeth


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keyboard and mouse do not work in X

[Mike]

Hello everyone, first time poster long time troll :)

I'm only having one problem with debian at the moment and that is whenever I
start xdm/kdm/gdm my mouse and keyboard become unresponsive.  Unfortunately
I'm pretty new to linux/debian so I'm not sure where to look to change the
settings.  I'm running Xserver from the unstable tree and my mouse and
keyboard are both wireless USB Logitech's.

If someone could point me in the right direction or just straight out tell
me how to fix this issue I would be most pleased!

Thanks


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Re: audio problems

[Richard Hector]

On Tue, 2002-11-26 at 05:08, ernst wrote:
> Hi
> 
> Can u get sound working if u are root? If so, do 'chmod a+rw /dev/dsp'.

I'm no audio expert, so I don't know if this applies to /dev/dsp - but
I'd rather not have somebody I've given shell access to able to turn on
my microphone at any time and listen to what I'm saying ... or shout
obscenities at me through the speakers, for that matter (I've seen
similar things done at university)

Better just to have it available to the group, and only put certain
people in the group.

Richard



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Re: pam-ldap headaches

[Stewart James]

I should have been clearer on this. This also seems to have resolved my
issues with pam_ldap.

Cheers,

Stewart

>
> Begin  Stewart James  quotation:
> >
> > Just doing a little follow up here, I think I tracked my issues down. I am
> > not going to get into too much detail about how I eventually figured this
> > out but.
> >
> > If I apt-get source sendmail (8.12.6), comment out the following in the
> > libsm/ldap.c:
> > #  ifdef LDAP_OPT_RESTART
> > ldap_set_option(ld, LDAP_OPT_RESTART, LDAP_OPT_ON);
> > #  endif  /* LDAP_OPT_RESTART */
> >
> > Then rebuild the package, everything works fine.
> >
> > I discoivered this after updating a prodocution box that was running ldap
> > maps in sendmail to sendmail_8.12.6-6Woody and sicovering sendmail was
> > giving off the same errors as pam_ldap when invoked from sendmail (Can not
> > connect to server). I quick downgraded and went the hunt. 8.12.6 is when
> > sendmail started using LDAP_OPT_RESTART so I took a wild guess went the
> > comment and this seemed to fix things up for me.
> >
> > Hopefully someone elsewho has the same problem will see this post.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Stewart
> >
> > On Thu, 7 Nov 2002, nate wrote:
> >
> > > Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 18:40:11 -0800 (PST)
> > > From: nate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: pam-ldap headaches
> > > Resent-Date: Thu,  7 Nov 2002 20:41:18 -0600 (CST)
> > > Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> > > Stewart James said:
> > > >
> > > > I am so sorry, I just realised why I was not seeing my posts in the
> > > > archives. Helps if you change to most recent pages. I was posting without
> > > > being a member and thought maybe debial was dropping my posts for some
> > > > reason), my last post was being a member.
> > >
> > > well glad i really am not crazy!! You didn't mention you were not
> > > on the list, if you had I [cw]ould of cc:'d you.
> > >
> > > > I am doing nothing especially difficult. All were done with simple
> > > > installing libpam-ldap following the prompts.
> > > >
> > > > Of 5 machines I have tried this on only one is working. The others all
> > > > give the error ldap_simple_bind: cannot connect to server.
> > > >
> > > > My config is simple
> > > > host ldap.vu.edu.au
> > > > base o=vu.edu.au
> > > > ldap_version 3
> > > > port 389
> > > > pam_password clear
> > >
> > > from the servers that do NOT work can you try something like
> > >
> > > ldapsearch -b "o=vu.edu.au" -LLL -H "ldap://ldap.vu.edu.au:389/";
> > > '(objectClass=*)' -x
> > >
> > > this should spew out everything in your LDAP database. if you get
> > > an error, try turning on debug mode, i use -d 256 at first then
> > > jump to -d 65536.
> > >
> > > if it works try putting this line in your /etc/pam_ldap.conf:
> > >
> > > uri ldap://ldap.vu.edu.au:389/
> > >
> > > (in addition to all the others)
> > >
> > > if it doesn't connect, sounds like there could be some sort of firewall
> > > or other mechanism preventing connection.
> > >
> > >
> > > > Watching the network, I can see pam_ldap doing a lookup for ldap.vu.edu.au
> > > > - and getting a result, it looksup a  record for ldap.vu.edu.au then
> > > >  for ldap.vu.edu.au.its.vu.edu.au then finally looks up A for
> > > > ldap.vu.edu.au and gets an IP address. But it never attempts to connect.
> > > >
> > > > For some reason, and I don;t know why ldap_simple_bind fails without
> > > > attempting to connect the host.
> > >
> > > not sure either, but doing a ldapsearch SHOULD produce the same results
> > > as what pam_ldap does, and you can turn on debugging to see whats going
> > > on.
> > >
> > > good luck
> > >
> > > nate
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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Re: Output on Diff moniter

[Richard Hector]

On Tue, 2002-11-26 at 04:47, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>  
> 
> Hi, 
> 
> I have this idea and I have no idea how to go implementing it. It makes no
> sense but just wanna do for kicks to see if can be done. 
> 
> I have 2 computers A and B on my desk and 2 moniters and 2 keyboards and all
> and both run debian. 
> 
> Say I am working on computer A and i ssh to computer B. I am using the
> console here and not the graphical interface. 
> 
> What I am trying to do is, while I working on computer A and ssh to Computer
> B , I want the ssh session displayed on moniter B and not that of moniter A. 

This might not be quite what you were asking for, but it's cool
nonetheless :-)

Check out x2x (debian package) - it lets you move your mouse off one
screen on to the other, like a multi headed display. They don't have to
be debian boxes even - I use it with an NC X-terminal, or you could use
a Sun or whatever.

Richard



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Re: smbfs just isn't there

[nate]

Tim Verry said:

> Woody with kernel 2.2.20, newest KDE, updated apache, sendmail, webmin
> installed, other than that pretty basic.


from the rest of your comments i get the idea that you possibly compiled
your own 2.2.20 kernel. the smbfs is part of the kernel not part of
samba. smbfs in samba I belive is limited to the wrapper scripts to
call mount.

If you are running a debianized 2.2.20 kernel which version of the image
are you running? (dpkg --status kernel-image-2.2.20).

nate




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Re: ext2 vs ext3 vs xfs vs reiserfs

[nate]

Vincent Lefevre said:
> On Mon, Nov 25, 2002 at 12:16:13 -0800, nate wrote:

> Then, why is fsck necessary with ext3?

tradititional fsck should not be with ext3's journalling turned on
(sometimes people forget to mount it with the right options so the right
journalling isn't enabled, I forget what these options are, just have
read them in various posts on the topic). A took which can check
the consistancy of the journal may be needed though(fsck for ext3 may
do this transparently). reiser has a tool that does this as well but
it doesn't do an actual filesystem check(in the traditional sense like
on ext2, or ufs or whatever) from what I can tell in the help for resiercheck
at least. This tool would also be responsible for replaying journal
entries to restore filesystem integrtity(of course this by no means
insures the data is intact, only that the filesystem is intact).

nate




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Re: "Burn" CD audio to a file

[Vineet Kumar]

* Bill Moseley ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [021125 13:08]:
> I had tried earlier to get dd to copy directly without luck.
> 
>   dd if=/dev/sr0 of=cdimage 
> 
> or 
> 
>   dd if=/dev/scd0 of=cdimage
> 
> But that results in:
> 
> Nov 25 12:29:14 laptop kernel: SCSI cdrom error : host 0 channel 0 id 0 lun
> 0 return code = 2800
> Nov 25 12:29:14 laptop kernel: ILI Current sd0b:00: sense key Illegal Request
> Nov 25 12:29:14 laptop kernel: Additional sense indicates Illegal mode for
> this track
> Nov 25 12:29:14 laptop kernel:  I/O error: dev 0b:00, sector 0
> Nov 25 12:29:14 laptop kernel: SCSI cdrom error : host 0 channel 0 id 0 lun
> 0 return code = 2800
> Nov 25 12:29:14 laptop kernel: ILI Current sd0b:00: sense key Illegal Request
> Nov 25 12:29:14 laptop kernel: Additional sense indicates Illegal mode for
> this track
> Nov 25 12:29:14 laptop kernel:  I/O error: dev 0b:00, sector 4

Try it with /dev/sr0 instead of /dev/scd0

good times,
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