Massive memory leak with Gnome2 transparent panels is Sid

2003-01-20 Thread Marcin Fusinski
Greetings,

Has anyone noticed a serious memory leak that occurs when using a few transparent
panels with running applets in Gnome2? In my case, gnome-panel consumed
over 70 megabytes in just one hour! Killing it didn't help much, the mem
usage was slowly increasing again and the only solution was to turn off
transparency (a panel to blame was a 'detached' panel at the top with
2 running applets: a clock and workspace 'switcher').

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Re: ASUS266-VM

2003-01-20 Thread Bob Proulx
John Griffiths wrote:
> At 10:38 PM 1/20/03 -0700, Bob Proulx wrote:
> >But that driver does not support highly accelerated display
> >nor framebuffer.  
> 
> ok, i can live without hardware acceleration, do i need framebuffer 
> for anything in particular?

Games like tuxracer use the framebuffer, IIRC.  Your best bet is to
try the free software 'nv' driver.  If you run into anything you can't
do then you can try the proprietary non-free 'nvidia' driver.  I
always start out with 'nv' just because it brings X11 up painlessless.
[Which is rather the whole point of free software.  Being free to
distribute it can be distributed freely.  The non-free software is
required by law to be more painful.  One should only use it if they
have to and at that time they will pay for it with inconvenience if
nothing else.]

Bob



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Error updating unstable non-free Packages

2003-01-20 Thread Tim Wood
Don't know if it's just me but I'm getting an error trying to update. I 
get the same on:
ftp.wa.au.debian.org
ftp.au.debian.org
ftp.uk.debian.org

I get a parsing error in  unstable non-free Packages, which results in 
"Dynamic MMap ran out of room" error.
This occurs parsing package graphviz (NewVersion1).

If this is a bug where do I report it as occuring?
If not, where might the fault lie?

Tim


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Re: Mouse not aligned in X

2003-01-20 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Mon, Jan 20, 2003 at 10:44:47PM -0600, Kent West wrote:
> Osamu Aoki wrote:
> >no but why not upgrade to X 4.2 in testing :)
...
> Yeah, I'm uprading the entire system, but it's over dial-up, so it's 
> gonna take a day and a half, and I only have a couple of hours left 
> before I have to leave this physical location. So I'll leave it 
> upgrading, and will contact the owner of the computer in a day or two to 
> see if the upgrade made a difference.

You are brave :)  Did you select package through dselect.

Also download-only is handy when you do apt-get while away from machine :)

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Re: Desktop productivity with Debian GNU/LINUX

2003-01-20 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Tuesday 21 January 2003 12:31 am, Kent West wrote:
> John & Peg Pickard wrote:
> > As I didn't have time to keep playing with LINUX, I gave up.
>
> Linux, being an OS by geeks for geeks, up until just recently, needs a
> geek to get it set up properly. Mandrake and others have made vast
> improvements, but it's not automatic. If you expect it to be, you'll be
> disappointed. Wait another couple of years. Until then consider yourself
> a consumer; as a general rule, consumers get their computers
> pre-installed with an operating system and don't do their own OS
> installation (although they might do a "restore" using the System
> Restore disk that came with their computer).

At the risk of sounding like a troll, I have to take issue with this.  To be 
even more blunt, this paragraph is, in my view, an example of some of the 
worst geek snobbery and elitism I've seen online.

I also have to ask how long it's been since you tried Mandrake last.  I found 
Mandrake 8.0 to be great at detecting EVERYTHING on my system.  There was 
basically NO post-install to deal with.  Printer drivers were there -- 
everything I needed was there.

This is a user who obviously wants to learn more about computers and Linux, 
but does not have the time to mess with selecting the necessary kernal 
modules or with spending hours online tracking down drivers.  This does not 
mean he is not ready for Linux.

I would STRONGLY recommend trying Mandrake.  While I have not had any problems 
with Mandrake 9.0, I have heard of some people who have.  I found Mandrake 
8.2 to be solid and stable.  It's basically your choice -- I would think 
either one would work fine.  One nice addition or change to Mandrake 9.0 is 
that it does not require the user to mount/umount cd-roms when they are put 
in or removed from a drive.

I have seen HUGE strides forward in desktop Linux in the time since I've been 
working with Linux (which was somewhere around mid 2000).  Mandrake, 
especially, has changed and improved quite a bit.  While I hate to say this 
on a Debian mailing list, Debian still has quite far to go before I would 
consider recommending it to anyone who does not work with computer 
professionally.  I started with programming in the late 1970's, grew up 
putting together Heathkit short wave radios and other kits, and used to 
program in assembler on an Apple //e as a hobby.  After about 10 years of 
using a computer as only a tool (which is what they basically are, anyway), I 
started doing more with it.  While I found Mandrake Linux easy to use, I have 
not found that to be anywhere near the case with Debian.  While the people 
here, on this mailing list, are about the most helpful you can find, there 
were still install issues that nobody here was able to solve.

While I don't think Linux is just for geeks anymore, I do think Debian is.  
And, to be honest, I think the Debian developers and maintainers (and 
administrators and others in charge) prefer it that way -- sort of a last 
retreat for geeks as the Linux world goes more and more mainstream.


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Re: Desktop productivity with Debian GNU/LINUX

2003-01-20 Thread Mohammed Sameer
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> John & Peg Pickard said:
> 
> > In short, will I be able to do something productive with Debian LINUX? And
> > then I will want to network it with our laptop running WinME, and a
> 
> I don't believe your a good candidate for using debian on the desktop.
> Perhaps SuSE, Mandrake or Xandros, despite being more propritary(sp),
> they are a step in the right direction(towards more openness) compared to
> most other platforms.
I was using mandrake, i also recommend it for anyone asking me

> I've been using debian as my desktop since 1998, and slackware before
> that, with not too many issues. I purchase hardware specifically for linux,
> I don't use a file manager, I don't use KDE/GNOME/some other fancy enviornment.
The same here, my own designed desktop with many terminals opened


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Re: Desktop productivity with Debian GNU/LINUX

2003-01-20 Thread nate
John & Peg Pickard said:

> In short, will I be able to do something productive with Debian LINUX? And
> then I will want to network it with our laptop running WinME, and a

I don't believe your a good candidate for using debian on the desktop.
Perhaps SuSE, Mandrake or Xandros, despite being more propritary(sp),
they are a step in the right direction(towards more openness) compared to
most other platforms.

I reccomend SuSE professional(~$80), I use it on systems for people who
are less experienced, or linux newbies and aren't interested in learning
the details on how things work. SuSE Personal may work fine too, I just
like the extra stuff thats in the pro version.

I've been using debian as my desktop since 1998, and slackware before
that, with not too many issues. I purchase hardware specifically for linux,
I don't use a file manager, I don't use KDE/GNOME/some other fancy enviornment.

debian is a great system once it's setup, but the initial setup can take
some time depending on the hardware involved. And some of the desktop
software in stable is "outdated". Some like to use testing or unstable
as a solution to this but I prefer to stick to stable, and don't reccomend
newbies to the other trees since they are, less tested.

SuSE may suit you well though, it has a lot of bells and whistles, though
despite using it off and on for 6 months it doesn't satisfy my needs on
a more technical level, so the rest of my family uses it, while I stick
to debian.


nate




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pumping puzzle

2003-01-20 Thread Jim McCloskey

I have a desktop machine running woody, with kernel 2.4.20-ac2. The
desktop is connected to a Netgear switch, which is in turn connected
to a wireless access point. In addition, there are several laptops in
the house which connect to the Netgear switch. 

I use a very simple iptables script to turn the desktop into a gateway
for the other machines in the house. One laptop uses a wireless card.
The others, until recently, connected to the Netgear switch directly
and used dhcp to get an IP address (the desktop is set up as a dhcp
server),

Until very recently, my connection to the net was a dialup PPP
connection, and all of the above worked very well.

A short while ago, however, I signed up for DSL (earthlink), bought
and installed a second ethernet card, and set about getting it all
working.

Mostly it works very well. The desktop connects to a DSL `modem'
through the new ethernet card and is assigned an IP address via
DHCP. The connection is as fast as I had hoped it would be. The
wireless connection works very well.

But for some reason, it is now impossible for a laptop connected
through the netgear switch to get a dhcp connection from the
desktop. I use pump on the Debian laptop (the other laptop that used
to connect in this way runs Os X; I don't know what dhcp client comes
with that). Calling /sbin/pump results in a long hang and then
`operation failed'.  The logs don't reveal very much (to me
anyway). I'll paste them in below along with the interfaces file and
the dhcpd config file from the desktop machine.

I can assign a static IP address on the private network to the laptop
and connect it to the net in that way (this works just fine), but (i)
I'd like to understand why it seems to be impossible to use dhcp in
this kind of context and (ii) it would be very convenient if visiting
laptops could just plug in to the Netgear switch and connect to the
net using the desktop as a dhcp server.

I'd be very grateful for any insight about why this seems impossible
given the other decisions I've made. Thanks very much in advance,

Jim

--
Logs (Pump)
--
Jan 20 17:29:39 lapdog kernel: eth0: Setting 100mbps half-duplex based on 
auto-negotiated partner ability 40a1.
Jan 20 17:29:39 lapdog pumpd[1839]: PUMP: sending discover 
Jan 20 17:29:39 lapdog pumpd[1839]: breq: opcode: 1
Jan 20 17:29:39 lapdog pumpd[1839]: breq: hw: 1
Jan 20 17:29:39 lapdog pumpd[1839]: breq: hwlength: 6
Jan 20 17:29:39 lapdog pumpd[1839]: breq: hopcount: 0
Jan 20 17:29:39 lapdog pumpd[1839]: breq: xid: 0xdad05b36
Jan 20 17:29:39 lapdog pumpd[1839]: breq: secs: 0
Jan 20 17:29:39 lapdog pumpd[1839]: breq: flags: 0x
Jan 20 17:29:39 lapdog pumpd[1839]: breq: ciaddr: 0.0.0.0
Jan 20 17:29:39 lapdog pumpd[1839]: breq: yiaddr: 0.0.0.0
Jan 20 17:29:39 lapdog pumpd[1839]: breq: server_ip: 0.0.0.0
Jan 20 17:29:39 lapdog pumpd[1839]: breq: bootp_gw_ip: 0.0.0.0
Jan 20 17:29:39 lapdog pumpd[1839]: breq: hwaddr: 
Jan 20 17:29:39 lapdog pumpd[1839]: breq: servername: 
Jan 20 17:29:39 lapdog pumpd[1839]: breq: bootfile: 
Jan 20 17:29:39 lapdog pumpd[1839]: breq: vendor: 0x63 0x82 0x53 0x63
Jan 20 17:29:39 lapdog pumpd[1839]: breq: vendor:  53   1 0x01
Jan 20 17:29:39 lapdog pumpd[1839]: breq: vendor: 0xff
--

--
/etc/network/interfaces  (desktop):
--
# The loopback interface
# 
auto lo
iface lo inet loopback

# The first network card (external connection)
# 
auto eth0
iface eth0 inet dhcp

# The second network card (internal network)
#
auto eth1
iface eth1 inet static
address 192.168.93.3
network 192.168.93.0
netmask 255.255.255.0
broadcast 192.168.93.255
--


--
/etc/dhcpd.conf (on the desktop):
--
#
# $Id: dhcpd.conf,v 1.4.2.2 2002/07/10 03:50:33 peloy Exp $
#

# option definitions common to all supported networks...
option domain-name "branci40.org";
option domain-name-servers 128.114.129.33, 128.114.142.6;

option subnet-mask 255.255.255.0;
default-lease-time 600;
max-lease-time 7200;
server-name "toraigh";

subnet 192.168.93.0 netmask 255.255.255.224 {
  range 192.168.93.20 192.168.93.30;
  option broadcast-address 192.168.93.255;
  option routers 192.168.93.3;
}

host lapdog {
  hardware ethernet 00:40:D0:25:30:45;
  fixed-address 192.168.93.2;
}
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Re: Is this normal with USB mice?

2003-01-20 Thread Jack
On Tue, Jan 21, 2003 at 12:22:20AM -0500, R. Sinclair wrote:
> When I got to VA, I set up the box and X wouldn't start at ALL.  I hashed thru 
> a few websites to research the problem but still couldn't get it started 
> until one website mentioned checking the kernel to make sure "HID" was 
> enabled under "USB devices."  I checked and it was set as a module and I saw 
> what module to use (hid.o).  I'd already had the usbmouse module loaded and 
> when I loaded "hid" (insmod hid), then did "cat /dev/input/mice" and move the 
> mouse around, I knew I had the USB mouse working.  I started X, and sure 
> enough, it was working.
Hmmm, interesting.  My USB mouse works without using hid.o:

mousedev4340   1
hid14120   0 (unused)
serial 46500   0 (autoclean)
usb-uhci   23436   0 (unused)

BTW,  I'm using customized 2.4.20 kernel.

Thanks,
Jack


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Re: ASUS266-VM

2003-01-20 Thread John Griffiths
At 10:38 PM 1/20/03 -0700, Bob Proulx wrote:
>But that driver does not support highly accelerated display
>nor framebuffer.  

ok, i can live without hardware acceleration, do i need framebuffer 
for anything in particular?



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Re: Is this normal with USB mice?

2003-01-20 Thread Jack
On Mon, Jan 20, 2003 at 11:36:17PM -0500, Ayman Haidar wrote:
> you need to setup both mice in your XF86Config, mine looks like this:
> --
> Section "InputDevice"
> Identifier  "Configured Mouse"
> Driver  "mouse"
> Option  "CorePointer"
> Option  "Device""/dev/psaux"
> Option  "Protocol"  "PS/2"
> Option  "Emulate3Buttons"   "true"
> #Option "ZAxisMapping"  "4 5"
> EndSection
> 
> Section "InputDevice"
> Identifier  "Generic Mouse"
> Driver  "mouse"
> Option  "SendCoreEvents""true"
> Option  "Device""/dev/input/mice"
> Option  "Protocol"  "ImPS/2"
> #Option "Emulate3Buttons"   "true"
> Option  "ZAxisMapping"  "4 5"
> EndSection
> 
> 
> Section "ServerLayout"
> Identifier  "Default Layout"
> Screen  "Default Screen"
> InputDevice "Generic Keyboard"
> InputDevice "Configured Mouse"
> InputDevice "Generic Mouse"
> EndSection
> 

Thanks for the hints.  I have almost the same configure as yours.  Would
you try this for me when you by chance reboot your machine?  Unplug the
USB mouse,  boot OS,  startx,  plugin the USB mouse.  Does the USB mouse
work right away?  In my case,  "cat /dev/input/mice" trick works,  but
the X does not detect the change.

Thanks!



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Re: ASUS266-VM

2003-01-20 Thread Bob Proulx
John Griffiths wrote:
> if needs must I will, but i though X 4.2.1 supported geforce2?

The XFree86 server supports GeForce chips using the free software 'nv'
driver.  But that driver does not support highly accelerated display
nor framebuffer.  For that you need the closed source proprietary
nVidia driver direct from nVidia.  There are packages available to
help with that.

  nvidia-kernel-src
  nvidia-glx-src

> (4.2.1 comes in knoppix)

Booting Knoppix and having it all work is a good way to verify that
your hardware is fully functional.

Bob



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Re: copying disks with dd and cat

2003-01-20 Thread Bob Proulx
Geoff Crompton wrote:
> 
>   I've just been copying a floppy disk onto my hard drive to back it up.
>   I initially used
> % dd if=/dev/fd0 of=disk_image

Seems reasonable.

>   However it barfed with an IO error, and dmesg shows:
> [...]
>   So then for some reason I tried cating the file:
> % cat /dev/fd0 > disk_image.cat
>   This didn't produce any information about errors.

Floppies are not the most reliable media.  It looks like reading the
device with 'cat' worked.  It is possible that reading it again with
'dd' would work.  Or the the same cat would fail a second time.  In
any case I would be suspicious of the floppy and be glad you have your
data safe.

>   Can anyone explain how hexdump produces an almost identical listing
>   for a file that differs in size by 491520 bytes?

Look at the addresses surrounding the lines with a '*'.  The '*'
indicates that lines have been omitted.  Those lines all have
identical data and so are suppressed.  That is where your differences
exist which consumed the difference in file size.  Try your dump
command again but using the -v, --output-duplicates option specified.

The info page for od is a little sparse.  Therefore I recommend using
the online standards documentation.

  http://www.unix-systems.org/single_unix_specification_v2/xcu/od.html

  -v
Write all input data. Without the -v option, any number of groups of
output lines, which would be identical to the immediately preceding
group of output lines (except for the byte offsets), will be replaced
with a line containing only an asterisk (*).

Bob



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Re: Desktop productivity with Debian GNU/LINUX

2003-01-20 Thread Kent West
John & Peg Pickard wrote:


  In early '99 . . . 
  So problem #1 was LINUX wasn't smart enough to find a sound card if 
it wasn't
on interrupt 5 (unless the user was smart enough to edit and recompile 
the sound
module).
 
Problem #2 was stair stepping when I printed. After some e-mail 
correspondence
with Patrick Volkering, he suggested that I download a different prn 
file. I did.
It was a monster of a file, with lots of printers, and I tried to set 
it up for
my printer (OKIDATA OLE 810e, and then an hp equivalent. Still had stair-
stepping.
 
As I didn't have time to keep playing with LINUX, I gave up.


Linux, being an OS by geeks for geeks, up until just recently, needs a 
geek to get it set up properly. Mandrake and others have made vast 
improvements, but it's not automatic. If you expect it to be, you'll be 
disappointed. Wait another couple of years. Until then consider yourself 
a consumer; as a general rule, consumers get their computers 
pre-installed with an operating system and don't do their own OS 
installation (although they might do a "restore" using the System 
Restore disk that came with their computer).

Spring of 2000 I got Mandrake, LinuxWorld's editor's choice for 1999. This
should be the ticket. After installing it, I still had problem #1 & 
problem #2.
Also couldn't find the How To on setting up the modem, so never got 
connected
to the Internet. Not too impressed with LINUX up to this point.

As stated above, if you expect a Linux installation to be automatic, 
you'll be disappointed.

Have a new motherboard/chip (DFI socket7/K6-2 550mhz), same modem, 
diff sound
card (Audigy PCI). From the reviews I've read lately, Debian is the 
best LINUX if one
ever gets it installed.


Yep. Debian installation is not automatic; but once installed, it's a 
breeze to maintain and upgrade.

Some articles mentioned KNOPPIX as a great way to get
Debian LINUX installed, so I downloaded the ISO (we now have a T1 
connection
where I work), burned a CD, and tried it out. Booted up great. But no 
sound, and it
can't find the modem or my printer.


Knoppix does very good hardware detection. If it didn't find your 
hardware, I wouldn't expect Debian to do so.


So much for KNOPPIX as an installer, or even as
a trial for LINUX. It was well behaved, when I shut down it ejected 
the CD & asked me
to close the tray and press enter. When I did it finished shutting 
down the computer.
Nice touch.
 
 
Open Office appears to be a nice suite if I could only find my files! 
I never
figured out how to get to the disk the files were on using the 
programs file open
browser. The only way I could open files was to click on one of the 
partitions on
the desktop and then browse until I found a file and then clicked on 
it. Not real
handy. (I had downloaded and installed OpenOffice 5.2 in WinME and had 
the same
problem at first, but after some reading was able to find my files). 
With LINUX Open
Office, I'm stuck with only LINUX partitions.

Huh? Where do you have your files? Applications in Linux would expect as 
a general rule to find users' file in their home directories. If you 
have them stored elsewhere, it's up to you, not OO.o to be able to 
locate them. It sounds like you have your files on some other partition, 
in which case you need to do some system adminstration stuff beforehand 
to be able to get to your files (like mounting those partitions, making 
them accessible to your user, etc). *nix is a vastly different world 
than Windows. Sometimes that makes things better, sometimes not. But 
regardless, it's different.

A problem that I am having with WinME is playing CD's through the IDE 
inter-
face. Since I have both a DVD and CD/RW drive, I didn't hook either 
one up to
the audio plug on the sound card, as  the Plextor rep said I could 
play them
through the IDE interface. I can, using Plextor's player, but no other 
Windows
player that I've tried will.


I've heard that such a thing is possible, depending on the player, but 
I've never done it. At any rate, you've described a problem in Windows 
here; can't give you much advice or sympathy. Sorry.


I wish I could devote the time learning LINUX  that I did when I first 
started
using DOS (1984), but I don't have that much free time anymore.


I understand that, and sympathize. But the fact remains that *nix is a 
different critter from Windows, and _requires_ a learning curve. Redhat 
and Mandrake & etc have tried to reduce that learning curve, but it remains.


My first
exposure to Windows was Win95 (I had been using OS2 at work previous 
to that),
I read very little, I started using it and learned as I went. That's 
the way it
will have to be with LINUX, I will have to be able to do something without
devoting hours trying to figure out each task that I want to do. Until 
LINUX
progresses to that point, I and many others simply can't make the switch.

It has progressed to that point. Remember, when you were first exposed 
to Win95, the internet didn'

Re: Is this normal with USB mice?

2003-01-20 Thread R. Sinclair
> I found this in the log (first X start without USB mouse plugged in)
>
> (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/input/mice
> No such device.
> (EE) USB Mice: cannot open input device
> (EE) PreInit failed for input device "USB Mice"
> (II) UnloadModule: "mouse"
> (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Configured Mouse" (type: MOUSE)

I just moved to the East Coast and had to break down my home network before 
leaving so I could take one system with me.  I'd had the USB mouse attached 
to a KVM using a PS/2 adapter, so Debian was configured to use the mouse as 
PS/2.

When I got to VA, I set up the box and X wouldn't start at ALL.  I hashed thru 
a few websites to research the problem but still couldn't get it started 
until one website mentioned checking the kernel to make sure "HID" was 
enabled under "USB devices."  I checked and it was set as a module and I saw 
what module to use (hid.o).  I'd already had the usbmouse module loaded and 
when I loaded "hid" (insmod hid), then did "cat /dev/input/mice" and move the 
mouse around, I knew I had the USB mouse working.  I started X, and sure 
enough, it was working.

I dunno if this'll work for you or not, but give it a shot...it shouldn't 
hurt.

Regards.
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Re: ASUS266-VM

2003-01-20 Thread John Griffiths
if needs must I will, but i though X 4.2.1 supported geforce2?

(4.2.1 comes in knoppix)

At 09:04 PM 1/20/03 -0800, Alvin Oga wrote:
>
>hi ya john
>
>you will need to get the x11 and nic drivers from nvidia.com
>
>works good other than that bending over backwards
>
>c ya
>alvin
>
>On Tue, 21 Jan 2003, John Griffiths wrote:
>
>> g'day all,
>> 
>> I've got a new machine with an "A7N266-VM SocketA M/ATX nVidia nForce220D
>> DDR VGA/audio/LAN" mobo (hoping to get it running as a desktop box running
>> deb)
>> 
>> 
>> I understand the video is a nvidia 220D Geforce 2, sound a Realtek 8201L
>> 
>> not sure what the hell the networking is (will  get a new NIC if needed).
>> 
>> i was thinking of doing a backdoor knoppix install to get the X 4.2.1.
>> 
>> does anyone know of any other gotcha's or snafu's i need to bear in mind?
>
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Re: default login manager

2003-01-20 Thread Oliver Fuchs
On Mon, 20 Jan 2003, David Z Maze wrote:

> Oliver Fuchs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > 3) update-rc.d -f xdm remove
> 
> This is arguably bad advice; if xdm ever gets updated (as in a
> security release), update-rc.d will notice that there are no links for
> xdm, conclude that the package was never installed, and recreate the
> links, leaving you back where you started.  You need to make sure that
> at least one link is left behind (like the K links in runlevels 0 and
> 6) so this doesn't happen.

So from my point of view this behavior is a bug isn't it?

Oliver
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SOLVED - Re: why does X keep throwing messages on console?

2003-01-20 Thread Sandip P Deshmukh
On Mon, Jan 20, 2003 at 11:13:44AM -0500, Stephen Gran wrote:
> This one time, at band camp, Sandip P Deshmukh said:
> > hello all
> > 
> > when i run X from a console using a simple startx command, off and on,
> > i keep getting a line that says
> > 
> > 'getmodeline etc etc' on the console from where i fired X.
> > 
> > is there a way to avoid this?
> 
> It's just STDOUT and STDERR being displayed there, and it gets logged
> for you anyway.  So if you find it irritating, just redirect it to
> /dev/null (startx > /dev/null 2>&1)

thanx. this seems to be working

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Re: ASUS266-VM

2003-01-20 Thread Alvin Oga

hi ya john

you will need to get the x11 and nic drivers from nvidia.com

works good other than that bending over backwards

c ya
alvin

On Tue, 21 Jan 2003, John Griffiths wrote:

> g'day all,
> 
> I've got a new machine with an "A7N266-VM SocketA M/ATX nVidia nForce220D
> DDR VGA/audio/LAN" mobo (hoping to get it running as a desktop box running
> deb)
> 
> 
> I understand the video is a nvidia 220D Geforce 2, sound a Realtek 8201L
> 
> not sure what the hell the networking is (will  get a new NIC if needed).
> 
> i was thinking of doing a backdoor knoppix install to get the X 4.2.1.
> 
> does anyone know of any other gotcha's or snafu's i need to bear in mind?


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Re: Which kernel-image for a Via Ezra chip?

2003-01-20 Thread Kent West
Ron Johnson wrote:


On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 16:50, Kent West wrote:
 

Got a Walmart Microtel $300 computer with a Via Ezra microprocessor. I 
want to upgrade to a 2.4.20 kernel image from Unstable. Which image do I 
need for this chip, or will I have to roll my own?
   


The Via C3 series, of which the Ezra is part of, is x86-compatabile:
http://www.via.com.tw/en/viac3/c3.jsp
In fact, it uses the Socket-370, just like the P3 (Tualatin).
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=Via+Ezra&btnG=Google+Search
First hit:
http://www.geek.com/procspec/via/ezra-t.htm

 

Well, yes, But does that mean I need the
   kernel-image-2.4-386
   kernel-image-2.4-586tsc
or the
   kernel-image-2.4-686
file, or perhaps some other? These are all "x86-compatible", are they 
not? If I had to make a guess, I'd guess 686, but I was hoping to have 
an authoritative answer before downloading a possibly wrong kernel over 
a slow-dial-up connection. And now I'm 90 miles away from that box, so 
trying to walk a newbie through the process via email and getting the 
wrong kernel has even less appeal. Oh well, I reckon it can wait until I 
make another trip down that way; the only real reason he needs to 
upgrade is to hopefully fix a mis-aligned mouse pointer and a lack of 
sound capability. Thanks for the response!

Kent





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ASUS266-VM

2003-01-20 Thread John Griffiths
g'day all,

I've got a new machine with an "A7N266-VM SocketA M/ATX nVidia nForce220D
DDR VGA/audio/LAN" mobo (hoping to get it running as a desktop box running
deb)


I understand the video is a nvidia 220D Geforce 2, sound a Realtek 8201L

not sure what the hell the networking is (will  get a new NIC if needed).

i was thinking of doing a backdoor knoppix install to get the X 4.2.1.

does anyone know of any other gotcha's or snafu's i need to bear in mind?

TIA

John



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Re: Mouse not aligned in X

2003-01-20 Thread Kent West
Osamu Aoki wrote:


On Mon, Jan 20, 2003 at 04:48:58PM -0600, Kent West wrote:
 

Just installed Woody. imps2 mouse on /dev/psaux works fine, except that 
the "sweet spot" where the click takes place is off-centered to the left 
of where the actual click is made by about the width of a close button 
(the X in the upper right hand corner of a window) in icewm.

This happens both in icewm and in KDE.

The console mouse (gpm) seems to work fine. I've tried the X mouse with 
and without gpm (configuring X to look to /dev/gpmdata and /dev/psaux 
respectively).

Any clues?
   


no but why not upgrade to X 4.2 in testing :)

I had strange freeze problem on 3dfx which was solved by this upgrade.
 

Yeah, I'm uprading the entire system, but it's over dial-up, so it's 
gonna take a day and a half, and I only have a couple of hours left 
before I have to leave this physical location. So I'll leave it 
upgrading, and will contact the owner of the computer in a day or two to 
see if the upgrade made a difference.

Kent




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Re: Is this normal with USB mice?

2003-01-20 Thread Ayman Haidar
you need to setup both mice in your XF86Config, mine looks like this:
--
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Configured Mouse"
Driver  "mouse"
Option  "CorePointer"
Option  "Device""/dev/psaux"
Option  "Protocol"  "PS/2"
Option  "Emulate3Buttons"   "true"
#Option "ZAxisMapping"  "4 5"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Generic Mouse"
Driver  "mouse"
Option  "SendCoreEvents""true"
Option  "Device""/dev/input/mice"
Option  "Protocol"  "ImPS/2"
#Option "Emulate3Buttons"   "true"
Option  "ZAxisMapping"  "4 5"
EndSection


Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier  "Default Layout"
Screen  "Default Screen"
InputDevice "Generic Keyboard"
InputDevice "Configured Mouse"
InputDevice "Generic Mouse"
EndSection


I hope this helps

Ayman



On Monday 20 January 2003 11:17 pm, Jack wrote:
> Hi,
>
> My USB mouse only works after I restart X.  After X is restarted,  it
> works just fine, even when X is restarted without it plugged in.  The
> touch-pad always works.
>
> I found this in the log (first X start without USB mouse plugged in)
>
> (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/input/mice
> No such device.
> (EE) USB Mice: cannot open input device
> (EE) PreInit failed for input device "USB Mice"
> (II) UnloadModule: "mouse"
> (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Configured Mouse" (type: MOUSE)
>
> The question is if possible to make X to reload mouse module for USB
> mouse without restart?
>
> Thanks!
> Jack


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Re: Mouse not aligned in X

2003-01-20 Thread Kent West
Bob Proulx wrote:


On Mon, Jan 20, 2003 at 04:48:58PM -0600, Kent West wrote:
 

Just installed Woody. imps2 mouse on /dev/psaux works fine, except that 
the "sweet spot" where the click takes place is off-centered to the left 
of where the actual click is made by about the width of a close button 
(the X in the upper right hand corner of a window) in icewm.
   


That sounds like the cursor you are using is strangely bitmapped.  Did
you install a custom cursor image?



Nope. Nothing non-standard.
As posted elsewhere, I'm currently upgrading this system to Sid, so 
we'll see where that goes. (It's over dial-up, so I expect it to take a 
day or two.)

Kent



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Re: ALSA (and kernel?) problem

2003-01-20 Thread David Z Maze
George Georgalis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I haven't used alsa in a while but when I did, I used these scripts (RedHat)
> to compile/install.
>
> http://galis.org/scripts/alsa-INSTALL.sh
> http://galis.org/scripts/alsa-driver-0.5.11.sh
> http://galis.org/scripts/alsa-lib-0.5.10b.sh
> http://galis.org/scripts/alsa-utils-0.5.10.sh

I'd ignore these scripts in a Debian world.  First, I'd use APT to
install the ALSA userspace.  If you're using a stock kernel, there are
probably precompiled ALSA modules to go with it; if not, install
alsa-source, unpack /usr/src/alsa-driver.tar.gz, and then go to the
top directory of your kernel tree and run 'make-kpkg modules-image
--added-modules=alsa-driver'.  (Assuming, of course, that you used
kernel-package to compile your kernel in the first place.)  This
produces an alsa-modules-*.deb in the parent directory of your source
tree; install it using 'dpkg -i'.

(Comment: the same pretty much applies for any add-on kernel module.
Caveat: I only know for sure that modules exist in unstable for 2.4.19
kernels, modules don't necessarily exist for any particular module for
any particular kernel.  But you're golden if you're building your own
kernel.  And you might even be able to use the 0.9.0rc6 ALSA source
out of unstable, with some luck.)

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Re: Desktop productivity with Debian GNU/LINUX

2003-01-20 Thread Ayman Haidar
Hello John,

Although Debian is my favorite distribution for several years, and although 
for me installation of debian is only a snap (me only), I would still 
recommend going with another distribution to start with. here is my 
recommendations:
1. have at least one day or one weekend devoted to installing, tweaking and 
learning the basics of Linux.
2. Mandrake in my opinion is still the friendliest distribution to install, 
give it another try (now at version 9.0)
3. once you know your way around linux, install Debian and enjoy it.

just remember persistence help and we are all here to help out. and remember 
this, once you know your way around Linux you will wonder how you lived 
without it :)

good luck

On Monday 20 January 2003 10:54 pm, John & Peg Pickard wrote:

> In short, will I be able to do something productive with Debian LINUX? And
> then I will want to network it with our laptop running WinME, and a LinkSys
> Print server, and possibly a US Robotics broadband router (if I can use the
> "back up" dial up connection on a permanent basis, which would then have an
> external modem). All without requiring a PHD in networking? If I get that
> far, LINUX will be for real, and I will also load it on my old 100 mhz Dell
> and network that too.
>
> Any hope?
>
> Thanks,
>
> John S. Pickard


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Is this normal with USB mice?

2003-01-20 Thread Jack
Hi,

My USB mouse only works after I restart X.  After X is restarted,  it
works just fine, even when X is restarted without it plugged in.  The
touch-pad always works.

I found this in the log (first X start without USB mouse plugged in)

(EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/input/mice
No such device.
(EE) USB Mice: cannot open input device
(EE) PreInit failed for input device "USB Mice"
(II) UnloadModule: "mouse"
(II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Configured Mouse" (type: MOUSE)

The question is if possible to make X to reload mouse module for USB
mouse without restart?

Thanks!
Jack


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Re: Trying to setup X

2003-01-20 Thread Ayman Haidar
On Monday 20 January 2003 09:06 pm, CM Miller wrote:
> Having a challenge trying to set up X under Debian
>
> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated
> Systems [SiS] SiS630 GUI Accelerator
> +3D (rev 31)
>

at the xfree86.org web site it seems that your card is supported, accelaration 
is supported under 4.2.1 (the code is new though)

http://xfree86.org/current/Status30.html#30

did you try to use xf86config or xf86cfg?

good luck 

Ayman



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Desktop productivity with Debian GNU/LINUX

2003-01-20 Thread John & Peg Pickard



  In early '99 I tried Slackware Linux. After a lot 
of reading and research tofind out the specs for the computer's hardware, 
the install went well exceptfor two things.
 
  When I got my 8 bit ISA modem I needed an interrupt 
less than 8. I had plansfor both serial ports so I set the modem's IRQ @ 5 
(second parallel port),and used the corresponding address for that IRQ. The 
sound card (AWE 32) wasset at IRQ 5, and since it was a 16 bit ISA card, I 
moved it to 12 I think (Iknew then, it's documented someplace).
 
  Anyway, LINUX was able to discover the sound card 
because the module thatset up the sound card was hard coded to an interrupt 
of 5. The modem went alittle better. After a lot of searching, I found the 
How To that explained howto modify which file to point to a serial port on 
interrupt 5. I actually gotconnected to the Internet and was able to browse 
with LYNX. The NETSCAPEbrowser wasn't on the CD's and I didn't want to 
download a 60 Meg file @ 28.6.
 
  So problem #1 was LINUX wasn't smart enough to find 
a sound card if it wasn'ton interrupt 5 (unless the user was smart enough to 
edit and recompile the soundmodule).
 
Problem #2 was stair stepping when I printed. After some 
e-mail correspondencewith Patrick Volkering, he suggested that I download a 
different prn file. I did.It was a monster of a file, with lots of printers, 
and I tried to set it up formy printer (OKIDATA OLE 810e, and then an hp 
equivalent. Still had stair-stepping.
 
As I didn't have time to keep playing with LINUX, I gave 
up.
 
Spring of 2000 I got Mandrake, LinuxWorld's editor's 
choice for 1999. Thisshould be the ticket. After installing it, I still had 
problem #1 & problem #2.Also couldn't find the How To on setting up the 
modem, so never got connectedto the Internet. Not too impressed with LINUX 
up to this point.
 
Have a new motherboard/chip (DFI socket7/K6-2 550mhz), 
same modem, diff sound
card (Audigy PCI). From the reviews I've read lately, 
Debian is the best LINUX if one
ever gets it installed. Some articles mentioned KNOPPIX as 
a great way to get
Debian LINUX installed, so I downloaded the ISO (we now 
have a T1 connection
where I work), burned a CD, and tried it out. Booted up 
great. But no sound, and it
can't find the modem or my printer. So much for KNOPPIX as 
an installer, or even as
a trial for LINUX. It was well behaved, when I shut down 
it ejected the CD & asked me
to close the tray and press enter. When I did it finished 
shutting down the computer.
Nice touch.
 
The KDE file manager is a kludge. I understand now why 
XANDROS created theirown. The problem with XANDROS is that it's too 
proprietary.
 
Open Office appears to be a nice suite if I could only 
find my files! I neverfigured out how to get to the disk the files were on 
using the programs file openbrowser. The only way I could open files was to 
click on one of the partitions onthe desktop and then browse until I found a 
file and then clicked on it. Not realhandy. (I had downloaded and installed 
OpenOffice 5.2 in WinME and had the sameproblem at first, but after some 
reading was able to find my files). With LINUX OpenOffice, I'm stuck with 
only LINUX partitions.
 
A problem that I am having with WinME is playing CD's 
through the IDE inter-face. Since I have both a DVD and CD/RW drive, I 
didn't hook either one up tothe audio plug on the sound card, as  the 
Plextor rep said I could play themthrough the IDE interface. I can, using 
Plextor's player, but no other Windowsplayer that I've tried 
will.
 
I wish I could devote the time learning LINUX  that I 
did when I first startedusing DOS (1984), but I don't have that much free 
time anymore. My firstexposure to Windows was Win95 (I had been using OS2 at 
work previous to that),I read very little, I started using it and learned as 
I went. That's the way itwill have to be with LINUX, I will have to be able 
to do something withoutdevoting hours trying to figure out each task that I 
want to do. Until LINUXprogresses to that point, I and many others simply 
can't make the switch.
 
If I get the Debian disks and managed to get LINUX 
installed (I hear you have anew version with a better installer), will it be 
able to find my sound card,modem, and printer (Okidata OLE 810e). Can it 
print to a printer without stair-stepping? Can I easily add a USB HP Ink 
Jet, and an old Epson dot matrix
later? Assuming Debian LINUX can find my sound card, can 
LINUX CD playersplay through the IDE interface?
 
In short, will I be able to do something productive with 
Debian LINUX? And then I
will want to network it with our laptop running WinME, and 
a LinkSys Print server,
and possibly a US Robotics broadband router (if I can use 
the "back up" dial up
connection on a permanent basis, which would then have an 
external modem).
All without requiring a PHD in networking? If I get that 
far, LINUX will be for real,
and I will also load it on my old 100 mhz Dell and 
network that too.
 
A

copying disks with dd and cat

2003-01-20 Thread Geoff Crompton
  Hi all.

  I've just been copying a floppy disk onto my hard drive to back it up.
  I initially used
% dd if=/dev/fd0 of=disk_image

  However it barfed with an IO error, and dmesg shows:

% dmesg
  
VFS: Disk change detected on device fd(2,0)
floppy0: CRC error: track 53, head 0, sector 16, size 2
floppy0: CRC error: track 53, head 0, sector 16, size 2
end_request: I/O error, dev 02:00 (floppy), sector 1923

  So then for some reason I tried cating the file:
% cat /dev/fd0 > disk_image.cat


  This didn't produce any information about errors. Doing an ls -l
  shows:
% ls -l
-rw-r--r--1 ghc  ghc983040 Jan 21 13:50 disk_image
-rw-r--r--1 ghc  ghc   1474560 Jan 21 14:15 disk_image.cat

  What has got me really confused is the result of diff'ing a hexdump.

% hexdump -C disk_image > hex_dimage_dd
% hexdump -C disk_image.cat > hex_dimage_cat

% diff hex_dimage_dd hex_dimage_cat
4c4
< 00168000
---
> 000f

  So now it seems that the files are exactly the same, except for the
  last bit of the file, or rather the output of hexdump. The end of the
  hex_dimage_dd file shows:

% tail hex_dimage_dd
000aa920  c4 c4 c6 c6 c0 c0 c2 c2  cc cc ce ce c8 c8 ca ca  ||
000aa930  d4 d4 d6 d6 d0 d0 d2 d2  dc dc de de d8 d8 da da  ||
000aa940  24 24 26 26 20 20 22 22  2c 2c 2e 2e 28 28 2a 2a  |$$&&  "",,..((**|
000aa950  34 34 36 36 30 30 32 32  3c 3c 3e 3e 38 38 3a 3a  |44660022<<>>88::|
000aa960  04 04 06 06 00 00 02 02  0c 0c 0e 0e 08 08 0a 0a  ||
000aa970  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ||
*
000aaa00  f6 f6 f6 f6 f6 f6 f6 f6  f6 f6 f6 f6 f6 f6 f6 f6  ||
*
000f

  It is only the last line of the file that is different in the other
hexdump.

  Can anyone explain how hexdump produces an almost identical listing
  for a file that differs in size by 491520 bytes?

  Cheers
  Geoff Crompton


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Re: [OT] custom dyndns.org domain & local bind

2003-01-20 Thread Kenneth Dombrowski
Matthew Daubenspeck wrote:


Try adding:

192.168.0.x	www.yourdomain.com

to /etc/hosts

Sometimes these routers aren't able to give the correct IP when it
comes to accessing stuff behind the NAT.



Thanks again, Matthew!

That works fine for now, since my laptop is the only LAN client & I 
rarely take it out into another network.

I'm cc'ing the list so the workaround is archived


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Re: Thnaks to the developers (sylpheed-claws & aspell)

2003-01-20 Thread Brian Nelson
Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Oh the irony that I send a message to a public list thanking people for a
> spell checker with a spelling error in the first word in the subject line. 
> *sigh*

Heh heh.

Most developers don't follow debian-user too closely, so if you want
reach more developers, you should mail debian-devel instead.  In any
case, you're welcome.

-Brian (Aspell maintainer)

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Packages to install for WLL

2003-01-20 Thread Shyam R
Please say what are the packages to be be installed
for Internet connection thro' WLL(wireless loop)
Ramachandran

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Re: How to change start up screen resolution for X?

2003-01-20 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Mon, Jan 20, 2003 at 03:10:20PM -0800, Osamu Aoki wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 20, 2003 at 03:39:29PM -0600, Nathan E Norman wrote:
> > On Mon, Jan 20, 2003 at 01:50:45PM -0600, will trillich wrote:
> > > all i can get is 800x600 which ain't much. :(
> > > 
> > > i've googled for MEMOREX-TELEX (CDS-4583) and haven't found much
> > > in the way of answers for horiz/vert refresh or clock speeds.
> > > anybody know of a site somewhere that's got a collection of that
> > > kind of info?
> > 
> > CDS-4583 is P/N 955313-003 which is a '14" SVGA monitor'.  My
> > recollection of Super-VGA is that you could do 1024x768 at some crappy
> > refresh rate like 60Hz ... but anything better than that is a long
> > shot.
> 
> Good google :) but SVGA is Super-VGA and only 800 x 720 !
> 
> CGA:   640 X 200 (8*8 font, 80chars * 25 lines)
> DCGA:  640 X 400 (8*16 font, 80chars * 25 lines)
> VGA:   640 x 480
> SVGA:  800 x 720
> XGA:  1024 x 768
> SXGA  1280 x1024 
> UXGA: 1600 x1440

Thanks, I will keep this list for future reference :)  Once again
someone has proved that my recollections are not as accurate as I
would like.

> In old days, it was not multi-sync monitor.  No wonder you can only get
> SVGA only.

I guess that was the point I was trying to make; this monitor is so
old the pain factor is quite high.  I would not recommend running X on
such a dinosaur.

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Re: how to determine hd partitioning?

2003-01-20 Thread Alvin Oga

hi ya matthew

On Mon, 20 Jan 2003, Matthew Weier O'Phinney wrote:

> -- Matthew Weier O'Phinney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
...
 
> > How can I determine the drive's partition scheme?
> 
> Thanks to everyone who responded to this -- I was able to see the
> partitioning using fdisk.
> 
> Only problem is... the disk is a 40GB drive, and this older machine can
> only handle drives up to 32GB. While I can see the partitioning and
> access a good portion of the disk, I cannot get a large chunk of the
> data off it that I need. I guess that'll teach me to back up to a hard
> drive (instead of removable media)...

lesson was/is... write down the fdisk partitions on a piece of paper
and tape it to the disk or chassis

-- if you cannot access the ful 40GB... read the "large-disk-howto"
- you probably need to enable the jumpers on the disks
so the bios can talk to the other 8GB

-- if you were able to write/read 40GB before..you should be able 
   see the whole thing .. sometimes explicitly tell the bios the 
   cyl/sec/head ... and also to lilo if you wanna boot it

c ya
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Re: X problems, likely vertical refresh

2003-01-20 Thread Egor Tur
Hi Matthew.
I have ATI All-in-Wonder Pro AGP card and I use driver from GATOS for
XFree86 version 4.1.x. This driver works fine for me (XVideo, TV tuner ...)

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Trying to setup X

2003-01-20 Thread CM Miller
Having a challenge trying to set up X under Debian 

phoenix:/proc# uname -a
Linux phoenix 2.2.20-idepci #1 Sat Apr 20 12:45:19 EST
2002 i686 unknown

I have a K7SEM motherboard with builtin videocard. 
Runing  lspci | grep vga | more 

01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated
Systems [SiS] SiS630 GUI Accelerator
+3D (rev 31)

Upon checking the website that makes the motherboard: 

http://www.ecsusa.com/

I check the downloads and under SiS630 and see there
aren't any drivers under Linux for my motherboard...

http://www.ecsusa.com/downloads/drivers_vga.html#sis630730

Am I SOL?  Or I notice that SiS 620/530 VGA Driver has
a Linux Driver, could I try this or would it be
unwise...? 

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Re: Mouse not aligned in X

2003-01-20 Thread Bob Proulx
On Mon, Jan 20, 2003 at 04:48:58PM -0600, Kent West wrote:
> Just installed Woody. imps2 mouse on /dev/psaux works fine, except that 
> the "sweet spot" where the click takes place is off-centered to the left 
> of where the actual click is made by about the width of a close button 
> (the X in the upper right hand corner of a window) in icewm.

That sounds like the cursor you are using is strangely bitmapped.  Did
you install a custom cursor image?

> The console mouse (gpm) seems to work fine. I've tried the X mouse with 
> and without gpm (configuring X to look to /dev/gpmdata and /dev/psaux 
> respectively).

Although I can't guess further at your problem I cannot imagine a
situation where gpm would cause the problem you describe.

Bob



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Re: DSL and Sound Configuration

2003-01-20 Thread Bob Proulx
Kris K wrote:
> 
> I'm having problems configuring my ADSL connection w/Debian.  I have a 
> Lynksys BEFW11S4 V.2 Etherfast Router that connects to the internet via my 
> Efficient Network's 5360 Speedstream Modem.  I use a Lynksys 10/100 
> Etherfast Card.  Here's the rundown.

Okay, stop right there.  Take a deep breath.  Repeat after me.  The
Speedstream connects to the Internet.  The Linksys router connects to
the modem.  The computer connects to the router.  The ankle bone
connects to the knee bone.

Only the dsl modem needs to know about dsl.  All of the others use
simple IP to connect to each other.  Presumably you have already
programmed your modem with all of the information such as passwords
that you needed to connect to your ISP.

> Decided to reinstall - this time, got X to run, but, ironically, my 
> internet is down.  Damn, are computer's fickle?  LOL.

Did you configure for DHCP?  Check /etc/network/interfaces and look for:
  auto eth0
  iface eth0 inet dhcp

Check that your network card is recognized by looking at 'ifconfig'.

  ifconfig eth0

You may need to load a module in /etc/modules.  In which case you need
to have 'tulip' in /etc/modules for a Linksys card.  Just editing the
file and rebooting works.  But I recommend that you use modconf to put
it there.  You must have missed doing that during the initial
install.  This is the same area where you selected your es1371 sound
driver.

  modconf

Page down to where it says 'tulip' submenu of tulip drivers and select
it.  Then on the next page select the tulip driver no description
available and let modconf add it to your kernel.

> I installed the 'ppp' module into my kernel like I normally do in the 
> Debian install.  No joy.  Tried removing that module.  No joy.  Added just 
> 'ppp_deflate'.  Nope.  Tried 'ppp' and 'ppp_deflate' together.  Nada.

Unless you are actually using ppp such as over a phone line or serial
line or some ssh+ppp vpn solution you do not need to do this.

> Next is my soundcard - a Soundblaster 128PCI - aka: ES1371.  Everytime I 
> start up KDE, it brings up a dialogue box that I used to get with Mandrake 
> - 'do not have permissions to device '/dev/dsp''.  I tried changing the 
> permissions on it, but it didn't work.  I never did fix the problem - just 
> installed SuSE on top of it.  LOL - I'm lazy.  But, I like Debian too much 
> to just quit at it.  That's why I'm asking you guys.  Any ideas for either 
> of these two problems?  Thanks a lot.

  adduser  audio

Then log out and log back in again.  When you log in you will be in
the audio group and will be able to access /dev/dsp.

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Xcdroast, cdrecord and SafeDisk Copy protection

2003-01-20 Thread Nick Lidakis
I'm having trouble making backups of games I think are protected with 
Safedisk. The reason I backup these games (Battelfiled 1942 and Rogued 
Spear) is that I have to have the CD in the drive in order to host a 
game. After time the discs can get scratched to the point of not being 
recognized. When I tried to use Xcdroast to make backups the it spits 
out all these read sector errors in the log window. The drive is a 
Plextor 16-10-40 which is known to be able to copy these discs with the 
appropriate Windows Software.

Can anyone point me in the right direction?


Nick


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Re: Install all packages

2003-01-20 Thread Paul Johnson
On Mon, Jan 20, 2003 at 08:15:47PM -0500, alex wrote:
> >You can't.  Too many packages conflict with one other to start with.
> >Only pick out what you want to try out, it'll be easier to maintain.
> >
> Now you tell us beginners   No wonder I had so much 
> trouble

The trouble wasn't a hint?  8;o)

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Re: ALSA (and kernel?) problem

2003-01-20 Thread George Georgalis
On Sun, Jan 19, 2003 at 01:11:44AM +0100, Alex wrote:
>I'm running kernel 2.4.20 and have recently got a abit kd7 with
>an onboard audio chipset.
>
>The chipset on the motherboard is via vt8235.
>
>I just downloaded the latest alsa ( 0.9.0rc6 developer) version of alsa as i 
>couldn't see the kernel supporting this chipset.
>
>did everything according to:
>http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php3?company=VIA&card=&chip=via8235&module=via82xx
>
>i'm a debian user, when coming to modprobing:
>tudor:/etc# modprobe snd-via82xx
>/lib/modules/2.4.20/kernel/sound/acore/snd.o: unresolved symbol _mmx_memcpy
>/lib/modules/2.4.20/kernel/sound/acore/snd.o: insmod 
>/lib/modules/2.4.20/kernel/sound/acore/snd.o failed
>/lib/modules/2.4.20/kernel/sound/acore/snd.o: insmod snd-via82xx failed
>
>CONFIG_SOUND was compiled into the kernel.
>
>searched some on google but found no useful information,
>i'm thankful for all help.
>

It looks as if you don't have all the modules installed properly and/or
alsa is expecting a different kernel or kernel options.

I haven't used alsa in a while but when I did, I used these scripts (RedHat)
to compile/install.

http://galis.org/scripts/alsa-INSTALL.sh
http://galis.org/scripts/alsa-driver-0.5.11.sh
http://galis.org/scripts/alsa-lib-0.5.10b.sh
http://galis.org/scripts/alsa-utils-0.5.10.sh

notice especially what's happening at the end of alsa-driver-0.5.11.sh
do you know how to apply module aliases you put in /etc/modutils/arch/i386?
btw update-rc.d on Debian is similar to the RH chkconfig command.

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Re: diald and error exit status 127(fixed)

2003-01-20 Thread Debian User
> 
> 
/var/lib/dpkg/info/diald.postinst: line 43: /etc/diald/cvtaddrs: No such
   ^->removed
this file here and reran 
now it works.
 
 dpkg: error processing diald (--configure):
  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
  Errors were encountered while processing:
   diald
   E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
   > 
> -- 

Now route out is gone :(  Manually added w/route add default gw works
but where could it be lost?  Suggestions->rtfm's
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Re: DSL and Sound Configuration

2003-01-20 Thread Greg Madden
On Monday 20 January 2003 02:26 pm, Kris K wrote:
> Hi all:
>
> I'm having problems configuring my ADSL connection w/Debian.  I have a
> Lynksys BEFW11S4 V.2 Etherfast Router that connects to the internet via
> my Efficient Network's 5360 Speedstream Modem.  I use a Lynksys 10/100
> Etherfast Card.  Here's the rundown.
>
> On a previous install of Debian, I was unable to get X to start, though
> I had a fully functional internet connection that I used to d/l Debian.
>
> Decided to reinstall - this time, got X to run, but, ironically, my
> internet is down.  Damn, are computer's fickle?  LOL.
>
> I installed the 'ppp' module into my kernel like I normally do in the
> Debian install.  No joy.  Tried removing that module.  No joy.  Added
> just 'ppp_deflate'.  Nope.  Tried 'ppp' and 'ppp_deflate' together. 
> Nada.
>
> I ran 'pppoeconfig' (or is it just 'pppconfig'?  it's the 'ADSL/PPPOE'
> Configurator in the Debian Menu) - it won't run on the initial try, and
> prompts me to run 'modconf'.  After selecting and removing/installing
> one of the modules (apparently, it just wants a change, and it doesn't
> care what), 'modconf' dumps me back into 'pppoeconfig' - which tells me
> that it now detects my Ethernet Card, and then tries to auto-config
> everything.  That's when it tells me no - it can't detect the setup
> from the 'provider' - I'm assuming that's the router.  It also says
> that its possible that other processes are using the interface 'eth0' -
> my ethernet card.

AFAIK you do not setup PPPOE on Debian, the router does the PPPOE stuff 
with your ISP. All you need to do is set up you nic card, & (hopefully) 
use dhcp to get an address from the router.

> That's it.
>
> Next is my soundcard - a Soundblaster 128PCI - aka: ES1371.  Everytime
> I start up KDE, it brings up a dialogue box that I used to get with
> Mandrake - 'do not have permissions to device '/dev/dsp''.  I tried
> changing the permissions on it, but it didn't work.  I never did fix
> the problem - just installed SuSE on top of it.  LOL - I'm lazy.  But,
> I like Debian too much to just quit at it.  That's why I'm asking you
> guys.  Any ideas for either of these two problems?  Thanks a lot.
>
> Regaurds,
> Kris Kerwin

Add the user (you?) to the group that is shown for the device, i.e  'ls -l  
/dev/dsp' will show 'audio' as the group for the ~/dsp device. Use 
'adduser' to do this. You also need to restart x-window for the change to 
be effective.
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Re: How to change start up screen resolution for X?

2003-01-20 Thread Sridhar M.A.
On Mon, Jan 20, 2003 at 03:39:29PM -0600, Nathan E Norman wrote:
   > On Mon, Jan 20, 2003 at 01:50:45PM -0600, will trillich wrote:
   > > On Sun, Jan 19, 2003 at 02:49:29AM -0500, Travis Crump wrote:
   > > > What I do is just make up a second Section "Screen" in the same 
   > > > XF86Config-4 and give it its own identifier.  When I want to use it I 
   > > > just do:
   > > > 
   > > > startx -- :1 -screen 
   > > 
   > > but how do you FIGURE OUT WHICH RESOLUTIONS your monitor can
   > > handle?  i've tried xvidtune, xf86cfg, xf86config,
   > > dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86, discover read-edid (major
   > > lockup, there), xviddetect, XFree86 -configure...
   > > 
   > > all i can get is 800x600 which ain't much. :(
   > > 
   > > i've googled for MEMOREX-TELEX (CDS-4583) and haven't found much
   > > in the way of answers for horiz/vert refresh or clock speeds.
   > > anybody know of a site somewhere that's got a collection of that
   > > kind of info?
   > 
   > CDS-4583 is P/N 955313-003 which is a '14" SVGA monitor'.  My
   > recollection of Super-VGA is that you could do 1024x768 at some crappy
   > refresh rate like 60Hz ... but anything better than that is a long
   > shot.
   > 
I too have a couple of 14" monitors, interlaced ones to boot. I used to
work at 1024x768 with interlace option earlier. X 4.x no longer supports
that. 

On such machines running woody, I just installed X 3.3.6 and I could get
1024x768. Of course, with the flicker, etc. headache is assured :-)

Regards,

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Re: Lilo and vga=791

2003-01-20 Thread Sridhar M.A.
On Tue, Jan 21, 2003 at 08:20:52AM +1300, Haralambos Geortgilakis wrote:
   > 
   > 
   > 
   > just change it too
   > 
   > vga=791
   > 
   > for each option you want too; no append statement is needed.
   > 
That did it. Somehow I missed that :-( Removed the append statement and
it is working fine. 

Thanks everybody,

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Re: Mouse not aligned in X

2003-01-20 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Mon, Jan 20, 2003 at 04:48:58PM -0600, Kent West wrote:
> Just installed Woody. imps2 mouse on /dev/psaux works fine, except that 
> the "sweet spot" where the click takes place is off-centered to the left 
> of where the actual click is made by about the width of a close button 
> (the X in the upper right hand corner of a window) in icewm.
> 
> This happens both in icewm and in KDE.
> 
> The console mouse (gpm) seems to work fine. I've tried the X mouse with 
> and without gpm (configuring X to look to /dev/gpmdata and /dev/psaux 
> respectively).
> 
> Any clues?

no but why not upgrade to X 4.2 in testing :)

I had strange freeze problem on 3dfx which was solved by this upgrade.
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Re: Question on Winbind

2003-01-20 Thread Debian User


Mark Roach wrote:


On Sun, 2003-01-19 at 20:35, Debian User wrote:
 

Hi, I have been pulling out hair on this one.

I am trying to get a debian box to share files to an NT 4 network.  

I installed Samba, works great.  I also installed Winbind and that also 
works, but I have a problem when trying to set file permissions.

When I do a - getent group or a - getent passwd the mappings show from 
the NT PDC but the uid and gid are identical on some users.  Like say 
User1 has a uid of 10004, but looking at getent group shows that 10004 
is the GID for Domain Users on the NT box. So, basically the UID and GID 
are the same for some users and groups.  This is causing a serious 
problem when trying to set permissions on certain folders for users.

   

Having identical numbers for groups and users is not a conflict, it is
numbering different things. You can be user #123 in group #123 or you
can be user #456 in group #789, they do not conflict with each other.


Thanks a bunch Mark, now that I think about it, I guess your correct 
about the group UID numbers, I guess I was use to seeing on my local box 
totally different numbers in the /etc/group file so I assumed they had 
to be different and I kinda changed my direction at that point to solve 
the number conflict, when it was actually ok.  I also saw other post 
that said they had to be different.




 

All the instructions I have see say to set the lines -- winbind uid = 
1-2 and winbind gid = 1-2 in the smb.conf.

So I figured Linux would give the id numbers a first come first basis, 
but it abviously dosent.

I have completely uninstalled, purged and reinstalled both Samba and 
Winbind, and still the same  mappings.  I have also changed the smb.conf 
file to give completely different mappings of --winbind uid = 
15000-2 - winbind gid = 20001-25000 , but when I do a getent group 
or getent passwd it still shows mappings starting at 1.  I have 
restarted all the related services and rebooted the machine, still no 
luck.  It is authenticating properly to the domain when browsing, but I 
really need to get proper permissions set.  I searched the web for 2 
hours and didn't find a bit of info on this problem.  I'm stuck.

It's as if there is a database file somewhere in the system that has 
kept this information from my orgional install and won't give it up.

   

try /var/lib/samba/winbindd_idmap.tdb
and /var/cache/samba/winbindd_cache.tdb

for reference you can look at man winbindd for these filenames


Not sure, but my man winbindd file shows locked files for the database, 
here is the sniplet,

WINBINDD(8)   WINBINDD(8)

  $LOCKDIR/winbindd_idmap.tdb
 Storage  for  the Windows NT rid to UNIX user/group id mapping. The lock directory is specified when Samba is initially compiled using  the  --with-lockdir  option.   This directory is by default /usr/local/samba/var/locks .

  $LOCKDIR/winbindd_cache.tdb
 Storage for cached user and group information.
-

Note, this is from the debian package of winbindd.

I did find the .tdb files where you said they would be though, but the man showed different.


Thanks again.

-debuser


 


   

I think you should post what your permissions problem is, not the
uid/gid stuff. i.e., you are trying to use acl's and it is not working,
can't create files when viewing the share from windows... you should
have much better luck solving your issue that way.


 

-Debuser.
   

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Re: GRUB -- hangs on boot

2003-01-20 Thread Geoff Crompton
On Mon, Jan 20, 2003 at 11:32:30PM +, Tim wrote:
> Maybe the MBR has been altered?  Run GrUB from a floppy, and
>  > root (hd0,0) <-if hd0,0 is your linux root partition
>  > setup (hd0)  <-places into MBR
> 

  Where root(hd0,0) defines the partition that the grub files can be
found on. In grub terms (hd0,0) corresponds to hda1 in linux terms. (if
only an ide system). I am uncertain what order grub considers scsi and
ide disks. ie, in a mixed ide/scsi system, I don't know if (hd0) would
be the first scsi disk or the first ide disk.
  Just remember that grubs disk/partition addressing is 0 based, where as 
the linux partition addressing is 1 based.

  Geoff Crompton

> This worked for me once before...hope it helps you!
> 
> Tim
> 
> will trillich wrote:
> > any reason why grub would hang on startup? i see "GRUB" after
> > the bios stuff, and then... nothing.
> >
> > a friend suggested trying windo~1 fdisk to make it a fat32
> > drive, wiping previous linux stuff off, then retrynig with a new
> > linux (ext3) partition scheme. i tried that (i think) and still,
> > hang on boot after seeing "GRUB".
> >
> > is there a trick i missed in writing the boot sectors? (lilo
> > worked on the machine in the past...)
> >
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: (forw) [hugh@mjr.org: Re: Quick aptitude question...]

2003-01-20 Thread iain d broadfoot
* Hugh Saunders ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> not avoiding woodyr1 but i dont have fast connection [56k dialup] so i
> want to aptiutude to install what i select and its dependencies [nothing
> else- bit like apt-get install -which is what i end up using!] but as
> ive fiddled about with it, aptitude has a list of about 150 packages it
> wants to upgrade/install so everytime i use aptitude i use the shift-i
> to only install what i want. [if want to upgrade, do apt-get update &&
> apt-get upgrade -y and leve it over night!]
> 
> so not essential as can  use apt-get but to make aptitude more usefull
> it would be good to be able synchronise its status with the current
> system package status

hum, you _could_ rename sources.list, do an update then put it back...

not sure if that'd cause a plaugue of locusts or not though.

iain

> 
> hugh
> 
> ps: replying to right place this time!
> 
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RE: [SOLVED]: Re: sound card detection problem

2003-01-20 Thread Jon


> -Original Message-
> From: Stephen Gran [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Tuesday, 21 January 2003 3:38 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [SOLVED]: Re: sound card detection problem
> 
> 
> This one time, at band camp, Aryan Ameri said:
> > On Monday 20 January 2003 18:41, Jon wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > The module you need is 'es1371' for the Vibra 128 chipset. I put 
> > > this on a line in /etc/modules so it gets loaded up each time. If 
> > > you haven't done so already, you also need to add yourself to the 
> > > audio group:
> > >
> > > adduser your_name audio
> 
> This is correct.
> 
> > > And also change the permissions on the audio devices:
> > >
> > > chmod o+rw /dev/dsp*
> > > chmod o+rw /dev/mixer*
> 
> No, no, a thousand times no.  /dev/dsp is readable and 
> writable by a user and a group already, why make it 
> accessible to the whole world? What you have just done is 
> bypass standard *NIX permission protections, and allowed 
> anyone with a connection to your box to play music through 
> your speakers or listen to you through your microphone.
> 

Thankyou! That seems quite obvious. I probably fiddled with the
permissions _before_ I realised about the audio group, in an attempt to
get sound working the first time and stop seeing error messages. There
must be a lot of little things like this that I do to get the right
result but perhaps not in the right way :-/


Jon.



> When you have these sort of problems, it's better to learn 
> the way to resolve them that works within the existing 
> framework (as adding a user to group audio does) than totally 
> bypassing the existing filesystem layer of protection.  
> Habits learned early tend to stick, so it's better to learn 
> the right way early on.
> 
> > > After that you should have sound. At least, that works for me.
> 
> Unfortunately, so will everyone else )-:
> 
> > Thanks Jon, it worked wonderfully
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Re: (forw) [hugh@mjr.org: Re: Quick aptitude question...]

2003-01-20 Thread Hugh Saunders
On Mon, Jan 20, 2003 at 11:20:25PM +, iain d broadfoot wrote:
> - Forwarded message from Hugh Saunders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -
> 
> Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 22:57:15 +
> From: Hugh Saunders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: iain d broadfoot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Subject: Re: Quick aptitude question...
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> On Mon, Jan 20, 2003 at 09:22:46PM +, iain d broadfoot wrote:
> > * ZephyrQ ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > > 
> > >   I'm trying to take better control of my installation, and fired up
> > > aptitude.  I inadvertently tried to do an upgrade (to woody rc1) a while
> > > back and am trying to cancel it.  Is there a way to 'wipe' queued
> > > actions and/or reset aptitude?
> > > 
> > 
> > when you hit 'g' to get the 'do this' screen, select the lines that say
> > 'install' or 'upgrade' or similar, and hit '_' to purge, '-' to remove
> > or '=' to hold(hold means keep installed, don't upgrade) - this should
> > cut down the number of things on the todo list.
> if youve told aptitude you want to upgrade a package, but havent
> actually done the upgrade,  how do you then
> reset its status to installed -its  a pain to do hold as that break
> dependencies when you upgrade other things.
> 
> hugh
> 
> - End forwarded message -
> 
> i'm not sure you can, using aptitude - it likes upgrading automatically.
> have a look in the options to see if you can turn off that behaviour.
> 
> at the same time, why do you want to avoid woodyr1 exactly?
not avoiding woodyr1 but i dont have fast connection [56k dialup] so i
want to aptiutude to install what i select and its dependencies [nothing
else- bit like apt-get install -which is what i end up using!] but as
ive fiddled about with it, aptitude has a list of about 150 packages it
wants to upgrade/install so everytime i use aptitude i use the shift-i
to only install what i want. [if want to upgrade, do apt-get update &&
apt-get upgrade -y and leve it over night!]

so not essential as can  use apt-get but to make aptitude more usefull
it would be good to be able synchronise its status with the current
system package status

hugh

ps: replying to right place this time!


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Re: GRUB -- hangs on boot

2003-01-20 Thread Tim
Maybe the MBR has been altered?  Run GrUB from a floppy, and
 > root (hd0,0) <-if hd0,0 is your linux root partition
 > setup (hd0)  <-places into MBR

This worked for me once before...hope it helps you!

Tim

will trillich wrote:
> any reason why grub would hang on startup? i see "GRUB" after
> the bios stuff, and then... nothing.
>
> a friend suggested trying windo~1 fdisk to make it a fat32
> drive, wiping previous linux stuff off, then retrynig with a new
> linux (ext3) partition scheme. i tried that (i think) and still,
> hang on boot after seeing "GRUB".
>
> is there a trick i missed in writing the boot sectors? (lilo
> worked on the machine in the past...)
>






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DSL and Sound Configuration

2003-01-20 Thread Kris K
Hi all:

I'm having problems configuring my ADSL connection w/Debian.  I have a 
Lynksys BEFW11S4 V.2 Etherfast Router that connects to the internet via my 
Efficient Network's 5360 Speedstream Modem.  I use a Lynksys 10/100 
Etherfast Card.  Here's the rundown.

On a previous install of Debian, I was unable to get X to start, though I 
had a fully functional internet connection that I used to d/l Debian.

Decided to reinstall - this time, got X to run, but, ironically, my internet 
is down.  Damn, are computer's fickle?  LOL.

I installed the 'ppp' module into my kernel like I normally do in the Debian 
install.  No joy.  Tried removing that module.  No joy.  Added just 
'ppp_deflate'.  Nope.  Tried 'ppp' and 'ppp_deflate' together.  Nada.

I ran 'pppoeconfig' (or is it just 'pppconfig'?  it's the 'ADSL/PPPOE' 
Configurator in the Debian Menu) - it won't run on the initial try, and 
prompts me to run 'modconf'.  After selecting and removing/installing one of 
the modules (apparently, it just wants a change, and it doesn't care what), 
'modconf' dumps me back into 'pppoeconfig' - which tells me that it now 
detects my Ethernet Card, and then tries to auto-config everything.  That's 
when it tells me no - it can't detect the setup from the 'provider' - I'm 
assuming that's the router.  It also says that its possible that other 
processes are using the interface 'eth0' - my ethernet card.

That's it.

Next is my soundcard - a Soundblaster 128PCI - aka: ES1371.  Everytime I 
start up KDE, it brings up a dialogue box that I used to get with Mandrake - 
'do not have permissions to device '/dev/dsp''.  I tried changing the 
permissions on it, but it didn't work.  I never did fix the problem - just 
installed SuSE on top of it.  LOL - I'm lazy.  But, I like Debian too much 
to just quit at it.  That's why I'm asking you guys.  Any ideas for either 
of these two problems?  Thanks a lot.

Regaurds,
Kris Kerwin



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Re: restart / shutdown by normal user

2003-01-20 Thread Bob Proulx
Craig Jackson wrote:
> # chmod +s /sbin/shutdown
> 
> This is not something I would do though. Why don't you do this when you
> want to shut down:

I recommend against doing that chmod on shutdown.  It has not been
inspected for security holes and that might open big ones.

If you really want any user that can log into the box to be able to
reboot it then instead, install sudo, then put something like this in
the sudoers file (using visudo).

ALL ALL=NOPASSWD: /sbin/shutdown

If you just want users on the console to reboot then just have them
CNTL-ALT-DELETE the keyboard.  Alternatively both kdm and gdm have
reboot options on their login manager screen.  This is by far safest
for anything but a kiosk.

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(forw) [hugh@mjr.org: Re: Quick aptitude question...]

2003-01-20 Thread iain d broadfoot
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Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 22:57:15 +
From: Hugh Saunders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: iain d broadfoot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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On Mon, Jan 20, 2003 at 09:22:46PM +, iain d broadfoot wrote:
> * ZephyrQ ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > 
> > I'm trying to take better control of my installation, and fired up
> > aptitude.  I inadvertently tried to do an upgrade (to woody rc1) a while
> > back and am trying to cancel it.  Is there a way to 'wipe' queued
> > actions and/or reset aptitude?
> > 
> 
> when you hit 'g' to get the 'do this' screen, select the lines that say
> 'install' or 'upgrade' or similar, and hit '_' to purge, '-' to remove
> or '=' to hold(hold means keep installed, don't upgrade) - this should
> cut down the number of things on the todo list.
if youve told aptitude you want to upgrade a package, but havent
actually done the upgrade,  how do you then
reset its status to installed -its  a pain to do hold as that break
dependencies when you upgrade other things.

hugh

- End forwarded message -

i'm not sure you can, using aptitude - it likes upgrading automatically.
have a look in the options to see if you can turn off that behaviour.

at the same time, why do you want to avoid woodyr1 exactly?

iain

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Re: Which kernel-image for a Via Ezra chip?

2003-01-20 Thread Ron Johnson
On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 16:50, Kent West wrote:
> Got a Walmart Microtel $300 computer with a Via Ezra microprocessor. I 
> want to upgrade to a 2.4.20 kernel image from Unstable. Which image do I 
> need for this chip, or will I have to roll my own?

The Via C3 series, of which the Ezra is part of, is x86-compatabile:
http://www.via.com.tw/en/viac3/c3.jsp
In fact, it uses the Socket-370, just like the P3 (Tualatin).
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=Via+Ezra&btnG=Google+Search
First hit:
http://www.geek.com/procspec/via/ezra-t.htm

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Re: OT: functional languages

2003-01-20 Thread Eric G. Miller
On Mon, Jan 20, 2003 at 12:07:31PM -0500, David Z Maze wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert Land) writes:
> > On Fri, Dec 13, 2002 at 11:23:43AM -0500, Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote:
> >> "imperative" and "procedural" are the same thing, and C is a prime
> >> example.  It is such because the structure of a C program is a
> >> collection of procedures which start with "main".  Each procedure is a
> >> linear list of statements to be executed in order.
> >
> > Could you specify a "linear list" more clearly? - the 
> > contrary would be a "nonlinear list" which on the first
> > view seems to be self-contradictory.
> 
> For example, in C:
> 
> int fib(int n)
> {
>   if (n < 2)
> return n;
>   return fib(n-2) + fib(n-1);
> }
> 
> the rules require that fib(n-2) is called before fib(n-1).  In Scheme:

This is incorrect.  There is no sequence point in the statement:

   return fib(n-2) + fib(n-1);

So, it's up to the implementation which side of the '+' is evaluated
first.
 
> (define (fib n)
>   (if (< n 2)
> n
> (+ (fib (- n 2)) (fib (- n 1)

The C and Scheme functions are essentially identical.  In C, statements
are executed in order.  I'm not too up on functional languages, but I
seem to recall they need special syntax to execute statements
sequentially.

That fib function is painfully slow via recursion and susceptible to
uncaught overflow in the C version (Scheme has big numbers built in).

#include 

unsigned long long
get_nth_fib (unsigned long long count)
{
unsigned long long last2 = 0ULL;
unsigned long long last  = 1ULL;
unsigned long long cur   = count;
unsigned long long i;

if (count > 1) {
for (i = 1; i < count; ++i) {
cur = last + last2;
if (cur < last) {
fprintf (stderr, "get_nth_fib(%llu) overflows!\n", count);
cur = 0UL;
break;
}
last2 = last;
last  = cur;
}
}
return cur;
}

Less elegant, but much faster and more robust than the recursive C version.
A table look-up would be even faster up to some 'n' (say, 93 in this case).

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Re: default login manager

2003-01-20 Thread Bob Proulx
David Z Maze wrote:
> Aryan Ameri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > I have installed Ralph Nolden's KDE 3.1 packages on woody stable.
> > However after installing kdm, when starting the computer, xdm is still the
> > default login manager. Howshall I change the default login manager to
> > kdm?
> 
> The most straightforward thing to do would be to remove xdm.  You
> could also change the links in /etc/rc?.d to cause one display manager
> or the other to start without removing the other one.

Removing those links would be ill advised.  It would be better to do
one of these:

1. Edit /etc/X11/default-display-manager and set it to your preferred.

2. Recommended: run 'dpkg-reconfigure kdm' or whatever your favorite
   login manage is and select it as the default.

The start up scripts for xdm, kdm, gdm, etc. look at that file and see
if their own name is there.  If so then then they start themself up.
If not then they know they are not the window manager and the start up
script exits instead.

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Re: init scripts management

2003-01-20 Thread Bob Proulx
Francois Chenais wrote:
> 
>   Is there any "standard method" under debian to add/remove
> shell @ boot/shutdown time in /etc/rc.* directories ?
> 
>   Like chk-config under R.H. in fact.

As another poster mentioned update-rc.d is related to this.  But I
have to ask, what package do you want to enable or disable?

Having used Redhat et al I am very used to installing a package, then
needing to edit the init.d script to enable the script in different
boot time run levels, then running chkconfig to install the symlinks.
In that system doing that is just part of the install and something
every RH user gets used to doing.

But in Debian I have never needed to make any changes to the symlinks
that control boot time running of packages.  On Debian all of that
"just works".  I think it would be a bug if it did not.

Therefore if I may ask, which package in Debian is giving you trouble?
Perhaps there is a misunderstanding about how the package runs?

Bob



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Re: debian on old powerbook?

2003-01-20 Thread Hugh Saunders
On Mon, Jan 20, 2003 at 07:06:35AM -0800, anthony baldwin wrote:
> I have several old Apple Powerbooks (140, 145)
> They don;t have CD drives and I can't connect them to my dsl, because they have no
> ethernet ports.
is it that they really dont have any ethernet or that they have thicknet
rather than standard ethernet -i have a powerbook510 and it needs a
transciever between the mac and the rj45 patch cable.
-havent ventured as far as linux on it -v small disk. It runs a terminal
emulater and thats all i would use it for in linux anyway!

hugh


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Re: [OT] custom dyndns.org domain & local bind

2003-01-20 Thread kenneth dombrowski
Matthew Daubenspeck wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 20, 2003 at 02:47:38PM -0500, Kenneth Dombrowski wrote:
>
>>Yes, the virtual hosts all listen on 
>>
>>I still have some domains set up for the LAN only (they belong to me,
>>but are not registered with dyndns.org yet), these are VirtualHosts with
>>the same apache configuration and they work fine, as shown below..
>
>
> So what exactly isn't working? I can see the Debian test page at
> http://www.kuboaa.org/
>
>

right, but I can't.

I get a "connection refused" message when I try to access it from the
LAN with nothing showing up in the server's apache logs about my
request, and nothing logged by iptables on the server that I can find.

That's why I suspected the router.. mine is a "RP614" model

maybe it's my laptop's firewall somehow blocking the request, let me
reboot into windows


...nope, connection refused here too

Here are all the diagnostics from windows I could think of

C:\WINNT\system32>tracert dev.kuboaa.org

Tracing route to kuboaa.org [66.108.241.38]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1   <10 ms   <10 ms   <10 ms  66-108-241-38.nyc.rr.com [66.108.241.38]

Trace complete.

C:\WINNT\system32>telnet dev.kuboaa.org 80
Connecting To dev.kuboaa.org...Could not open a connection to host on 
port 80 : Connect failed

C:\WINNT\system32>telnet 66.108.241.38 80
Connecting To 66.108.241.38...Could not open a connection to host on 
port 80 : Connect failed

If I telnet to "192.168.0.3 80" I can type "GET /" and it sends back the 
default VirtualHost's index page (not the one I'm after)


any thoughts? further diagnostics? is it back to making my local bind 
authoritative for the LAN? even though nobody outside should be able to 
connect to it, it seems like a really broken way to try to fix it...

what model netgear router are you using, Matthew?

& by the way, thanks for your help so far





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Which kernel-image for a Via Ezra chip?

2003-01-20 Thread Kent West
Got a Walmart Microtel $300 computer with a Via Ezra microprocessor. I 
want to upgrade to a 2.4.20 kernel image from Unstable. Which image do I 
need for this chip, or will I have to roll my own?

Thanks!

Kent



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Mouse not aligned in X

2003-01-20 Thread Kent West
Just installed Woody. imps2 mouse on /dev/psaux works fine, except that 
the "sweet spot" where the click takes place is off-centered to the left 
of where the actual click is made by about the width of a close button 
(the X in the upper right hand corner of a window) in icewm.

This happens both in icewm and in KDE.

The console mouse (gpm) seems to work fine. I've tried the X mouse with 
and without gpm (configuring X to look to /dev/gpmdata and /dev/psaux 
respectively).

Any clues?

Kent



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Re: How to change start up screen resolution for X?

2003-01-20 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Mon, Jan 20, 2003 at 03:39:29PM -0600, Nathan E Norman wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 20, 2003 at 01:50:45PM -0600, will trillich wrote:
> > all i can get is 800x600 which ain't much. :(
> > 
> > i've googled for MEMOREX-TELEX (CDS-4583) and haven't found much
> > in the way of answers for horiz/vert refresh or clock speeds.
> > anybody know of a site somewhere that's got a collection of that
> > kind of info?
> 
> CDS-4583 is P/N 955313-003 which is a '14" SVGA monitor'.  My
> recollection of Super-VGA is that you could do 1024x768 at some crappy
> refresh rate like 60Hz ... but anything better than that is a long
> shot.

Good google :) but SVGA is Super-VGA and only 800 x 720 !

CGA:   640 X 200 (8*8 font, 80chars * 25 lines)
DCGA:  640 X 400 (8*16 font, 80chars * 25 lines)
VGA:   640 x 480
SVGA:  800 x 720
XGA:  1024 x 768
SXGA  1280 x1024 
UXGA: 1600 x1440

In old days, it was not multi-sync monitor.  No wonder you can only get
SVGA only.

> Pardon me, but I would classify that monitor as a "boat anchor".  You
> can get a far more capable 17" replacement for under $200 (probably
> less if you check out the dumpsters at various corporations :)

Maybe cheap LCD XGA (15 inch which is as big as 17 inch CRT), 
they are getting sub $300

Osamu
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Re: restart / shutdown by normal user

2003-01-20 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Mon, Jan 20, 2003 at 01:33:37PM -0800, Jay wrote:
> As far as I know, you can just do a ctrl-alt-delete at the login prompt, and
> it will shutdown, no need to be root.
> 
> May the Force of the Dragon's Spirit be with you...In Accordance With The
> Prophecy.
> 
> Happy Hacking, Bright Blessings and Gentle Breezes!

You need to edit /etc/initab
  shotdown -r now -> shotdown -h now

Then you cn do this :)
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RE: debian on old powerbook?

2003-01-20 Thread dbalder
>I have several old Apple Powerbooks (140, 145)
>They don;t have CD drives and I can't connect them to my dsl, because they
have no
>ethernet ports.

If those powerbooks have SCSI ports, then you might be able to connect a SCSI cdrom 
drive or alternatively another powerbook with cdrom drive using
scsi I think.
Othwerwise am sure they can be networked in some other way (AppleTalk I think, so that 
might be the go). This is slower, but it may work.

>How could I install Debian on them?  and Where do I find the Debian
>that is appropriate for that architecture?

That would be 68k architecture and debian has a port for that. Info is on port section 
on debian website.

>I'd like to use them for word processing, etc., in my classroom.

An issue would be the hard drive size I think as you will need to partition the HD and 
that won't leave you with much. If you want XFree you may have
to use some very light window manager or otherwise stick with no GUI.


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Re: X problems, likely vertical refresh

2003-01-20 Thread Erinn

> Section "Module"
>   Load"GLcore"
>   Load"bitmap"
>   Load"dbe"
>   Load"ddc"
>   Load"dri"
>   Load"extmod"
>   Load"freetype"
>   Load"glx"
>   Load"speedo"
>   Load"type1"
>   Load"vbe"
  Load"ati"
> EndSection

What version of XFree86 are you using?


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Last partition blocks can't be accessed after partition is mounted

2003-01-20 Thread Javier Miqueleiz
Hello everybody.

I installed Debian 3.0 r0 on my Dell 4100 machine. Everything is OK, but I
noticed the following (little) problem. The last blocks (1, 2 or3) of some
partitions can't be accessed (using badblocks in read mode or dd).

The stange things are:
 1: It only happens with some partitions (I can't figure out a
 rule).
 2: If those partitions has never been mounted since boot up, it
 doesn't happen.
 3: Once those partitions have been mounted, the problem will arise
 (even after those partitions have been unmounted).

I observed this behavior with kernel 2.2.20 (from Debian 3.0). It also happens
with kernel 2.2.16 (from RedHat 7.0). I am pretty sure this is not a hardware
problem (tested with HD diagnostic tools).

My questions are:
Could this behavior lead to filesytem problems?
Is this behaviour universal or only applies to my installation? (I would be very
grateful if someone could test this in its machine).

Below is my current partition table. It was created using fdisk v2.11n (the one
from Debian 3.0 r0). I think it is OK (parted, cfdisk, sfdisk and Ranish
report no problem). In this partition scheme, the problem will happen with
partitions hda3 and hda9.


Thank you in advance.


Javier Miqueleiz.


(I am not subscribed to the list because of the great volume of the
traffic).

 *
 # fdisk -l /dev/hda

Disk /dev/hda: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 2434 cylinders
 Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 bytes

Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
 /dev/hda1 1 255 2048256 c Win95 FAT32 (LBA)
 /dev/hda2 256 638 3076447+ c Win95 FAT32 (LBA)
 /dev/hda3 * 639 1340 5638815 83 Linux
 /dev/hda4 1341 2434 8787555 f Win95 Ext'd (LBA)
 /dev/hda5 1341 1468 1028128+ fd Linux raid
 autodetect
 /dev/hda6 1469 1838 2971993+ fd Linux raid
 autodetect
 /dev/hda7 1839 1870 257008+ 83 Linux
 /dev/hda8 1871 1902 257008+ 83 Linux
 /dev/hda9 1903 1943 329301 82 Linux swap
 /dev/hda10 1944 2434 3943926 c Win95 FAT32 (LBA)

*

Below are kernel messages:

*
 # dmesg
Linux version 2.2.20 (root@europa) (gcc version 2.95.4 20011002 (Debian prerelease)) 
#5 Tue Jan 7 23:20:00 CET 2003
BIOS-provided physical RAM map:
 BIOS-e820: 0009f000 @  (usable)
 BIOS-e820: 0fec @ 0010 (usable)
Detected 797428 kHz processor.
Console: colour VGA+ 80x25
Calibrating delay loop... 1592.52 BogoMIPS
Memory: 257188k/261888k available (1284k kernel code, 416k reserved, 2936k data, 64k 
init)
Dentry hash table entries: 32768 (order 6, 256k)
Buffer cache hash table entries: 262144 (order 8, 1024k)
Page cache hash table entries: 65536 (order 6, 256k)
VFS: Diskquotas version dquot_6.4.0 initialized
Intel machine check architecture supported.
Intel machine check reporting enabled on CPU#0.
256K L2 cache (8 way)
CPU: L2 Cache: 256K
CPU: Intel Pentium III (Coppermine) stepping 06
Checking 386/387 coupling... OK, FPU using exception 16 error reporting.
Checking 'hlt' instruction... OK.
POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX
mtrr: v1.35a (19990819) Richard Gooch ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
PCI: PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xfda95
PCI: Using configuration type 1
PCI: Probing PCI hardware
Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.2
Based upon Swansea University Computer Society NET3.039
NET4: Unix domain sockets 1.0 for Linux NET4.0.
NET4: Linux TCP/IP 1.0 for NET4.0
IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP
TCP: Hash tables configured (ehash 262144 bhash 65536)
Initializing RT netlink socket
Starting kswapd v 1.5
Serial driver version 4.27 with no serial options enabled
ttyS00 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
pty: 256 Unix98 ptys configured
PCI_IDE: unknown IDE controller on PCI bus 00 device f9, VID=8086, DID=244b
PCI_IDE: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
ide0: BM-DMA at 0xffa0-0xffa7, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:pio
ide1: BM-DMA at 0xffa8-0xffaf, BIOS settings: hdc:DMA, hdd:DMA
hda: WDC WD200BB-75AUA1, ATA DISK drive
hdc: SAMSUNG SV0432A, ATA DISK drive
hdd: SAMSUNG DVD-ROM SD-612, ATAPI CDROM drive
ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15
hda: WDC WD200BB-75AUA1, 19092MB w/2048kB Cache, CHS=2434/255/63
hdc: SAMSUNG SV0432A, 4112MB w/482kB Cache, CHS=8912/15/63, UDMA
hdd: ATAPI 32X DVD-ROM drive, 512kB Cache
Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.11
Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M
FDC 0 is a post-1991 82077
md driver 0.36.6 MAX_MD_DEV=4, MAX_REAL=8
linear personality registered
raid0 personality registered
raid1 personality registered
raid5 personality registered
(scsi0)  found at PCI 2/11/0
(scsi0) Narrow Channel, SCSI ID=7, 3/255 SCBs
(scsi0) Cables present (Int-50 YES, Ext-50 YES)
(scsi0) Downloading sequencer code... 415 instructions downloaded
scsi0 : Adaptec AHA274x/284x/294x (EISA/VLB/PCI-Fast SCSI) 5.1.33/3.2.4
   
scsi : 1 host.
  Vendor: PLEXTOR   Model: CD-ROM PX-32TSRev: 1.03
  Type:   CD-ROM

Re: restart / shutdown by normal user

2003-01-20 Thread Kirk Strauser

At 2003-01-20T21:05:36Z, Joris Huizer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> In the current (default) settings restarting & shutting down is only
> allowed for the root user; How can I change that so normal users can shut
> down (restart) ?

The safest answer is to install sudo, and give the ability to execute
`shutdown' as root to an explicit set of users.
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Re: Kernel fallback

2003-01-20 Thread Seneca
On Mon, Jan 20, 2003 at 05:53:55PM +, Paul W wrote:
> Hello all,
>   I've been trying (and still am) to compile a 2.4.20 kernel with alsa modules 
> to enable my soundcard, as per the good advice given me earlier.  So far I've 
> tried the Debian way and the old fashioned way and I'm nearly there but not 
> quite - I now have a 2.4.20 kernel that doesn't work right as the default and 
> a 2.4.18 kernel in good order (apart from sound) that I can boot into from 
> lilo.  My question is - If I now try to install another kernel will my 
> current 2nd choice (2.4.18) disappear, and if so how do I stop it from doing 
> so as it's my only fully operational choice at present?

Depends upon how you're doing it.  I have a system with 4 kernels to
select from.  You just have to spend a couple of minutes in
/etc/lilo.conf, and add your own image listings.  All you have to do
after adding in more images is to make sure that what you wrote for the
image location matches the reality (and run lilo).  I don't rely upon
the symlinks /vmlinuz and /vmlinuz.old, I make my own that contain a bit
more information (such as /vmlinuz-2.4.18).

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RE: restart / shutdown by normal user

2003-01-20 Thread Jay
As far as I know, you can just do a ctrl-alt-delete at the login prompt, and
it will shutdown, no need to be root.

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~Hello,
~
~In the current (default) settings restarting &
~shutting down is only allowed for the root user;
~How can I change that so normal users can shut down
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Re: How to change start up screen resolution for X?

2003-01-20 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Mon, Jan 20, 2003 at 01:50:45PM -0600, will trillich wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 19, 2003 at 02:49:29AM -0500, Travis Crump wrote:
> > What I do is just make up a second Section "Screen" in the same 
> > XF86Config-4 and give it its own identifier.  When I want to use it I 
> > just do:
> > 
> > startx -- :1 -screen 
> 
> but how do you FIGURE OUT WHICH RESOLUTIONS your monitor can
> handle?  i've tried xvidtune, xf86cfg, xf86config,
> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86, discover read-edid (major
> lockup, there), xviddetect, XFree86 -configure...
> 
> all i can get is 800x600 which ain't much. :(
> 
> i've googled for MEMOREX-TELEX (CDS-4583) and haven't found much
> in the way of answers for horiz/vert refresh or clock speeds.
> anybody know of a site somewhere that's got a collection of that
> kind of info?

CDS-4583 is P/N 955313-003 which is a '14" SVGA monitor'.  My
recollection of Super-VGA is that you could do 1024x768 at some crappy
refresh rate like 60Hz ... but anything better than that is a long
shot.

Pardon me, but I would classify that monitor as a "boat anchor".  You
can get a far more capable 17" replacement for under $200 (probably
less if you check out the dumpsters at various corporations :)

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Re: ls color's messed up

2003-01-20 Thread Seneca
On Mon, Jan 20, 2003 at 12:42:36PM -0800, Curtis Spencer wrote:
> This one is kind of strange.  My ls colors work on everything except for
> executables.  In other words it turns archives red and directories blue,
> but
> Files with 700 privileges are still gray.  When I just use 'ls --color'
> do I not get any green.  However, when I use ls --color -l it works
> fine.  Strange...

Known bug.  Look up coreutils in the BTS.

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Re: restart / shutdown by normal user

2003-01-20 Thread Craig Jackson
# chmod +s /sbin/shutdown

This is not something I would do though. Why don't you do this when you
want to shut down:

# su -c "shutdown -h now"

On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 15:05, Joris Huizer wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> In the current (default) settings restarting &
> shutting down is only allowed for the root user;
> How can I change that so normal users can shut down
> (restart) ?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Joris
> 
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Re: GRUB -- hangs on boot

2003-01-20 Thread Derrick 'dman' Hudson
On Mon, Jan 20, 2003 at 01:53:54PM -0600, will trillich wrote:
| any reason why grub would hang on startup? i see "GRUB" after
| the bios stuff, and then... nothing.

I bet you don't have the MBR configured correctly.  Here is a scenario
which will show what you're seeing :
1)  load grub on a floppy
2)  boot from floppy
3)  from the shell run the "setup" command (IIRC, I haven't done
this in a while)
4)  remove the floppy
5)  reboot

What happens is the stage1, on the MBR, is set to look for the stage2
on the floppy disk.  It doesn't find it, so it gets stuck.  If you put
the floppy in at that point it would work.

The solution is to specify where the stage2 is to be found -- on the
hard drive.  I like to eject the grub floppy once it has loaded so
that I'll get an error if I don't correctly specify where to get the
stage2 from (it defaults to the disk grub loaded from, which is the
floppy in this case, and that wouldn't be found during the install if
the floppy has been removed).

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Re: setup ofr the printer

2003-01-20 Thread Craig Jackson

You may want to install mpage and will need samba if it is a
windows-shared printer.

ncpfs I believe is for netware-shared printers.

That first lp printer is a dummy entry and can be safely deleted.

Use printtool to autodetect your printer.

On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 15:14, Joris Huizer wrote:
> 
> --- Craig Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > apt-get install printtool
> 
> OK I've done that.
> When I run printtool, I get warnings:
> - Samba not installed
> - ncpfs not installed
> 
> And then in the main window of printtool the text:
> "lp|Generic dot-matrix printer entry  type
> unrecognized"
> 
> I think that may be related to the missing programs
> Sanba/ncpfs - which one should I install ? Or what
> should I do ?
> 
> 
> 
> > 
> > On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 11:56, Joris Huizer wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > > 
> > > I know you can print a file using lpr and
> > > configuration could be done using lpd - but lpd is
> > not
> > > present.
> > > 
> > > I've got a Lexmark Z31 printer. Although it seems
> > to
> > > be a "windows only" printer I had a driver for
> > redhat
> > > before.
> > > 
> > > Is there a driver and/or a howto for the printer
> > > configuration available ?
> > > 
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Re: Quick aptitude question...

2003-01-20 Thread iain d broadfoot
* ZephyrQ ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> 
>   I'm trying to take better control of my installation, and fired up
> aptitude.  I inadvertently tried to do an upgrade (to woody rc1) a while
> back and am trying to cancel it.  Is there a way to 'wipe' queued
> actions and/or reset aptitude?
> 

when you hit 'g' to get the 'do this' screen, select the lines that say
'install' or 'upgrade' or similar, and hit '_' to purge, '-' to remove
or '=' to hold(hold means keep installed, don't upgrade) - this should
cut down the number of things on the todo list.

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X problems, likely vertical refresh

2003-01-20 Thread Matthew Weier O'Phinney
I just installed an ATI All-in-Wonder PCI VGA card in my machine, and
I'm having a few problems with X.

I'm using a Slimline flat-panel LCD monitor, and I have a chart showing
Horizontal frequency and Vertical refresh rates. I've specified the
appropriate ranges in my /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 file. I've also specified
the "ati" driver for my video device. (I've attached the full
XF86Config-4 file below.)

I'm getting some wierd behaviour, though. When I load X, I get a gray
pattern that has vertical dark areas that then gradate out to vertical
lighter areas. Once blackbox has loaded with my backdrop, it's not
noticable ... until you start looking at apps, and start to notice that
wherever there was a dark bar, any text/graphics overlying that area are
darkened and defocussed along those vertical strips. It makes it
difficult to read, to say the least.

I hadn't noticed this behaviour on the same monitor with a different
graphics card (I've tried it with both an S3 Savage and an old NVidia
TNT card), so I'm wondering if it's specific to the ATI card. In
addition, I may have had it working previously with the ATI card -- but
I cannot find any settings that work correctly right now.

The settings available to the monitor are:
Res.Horiz(KHz)  Vertical(Hz)
640x400 31.47   70
640x400 31.47   70
640x480 31.47   59.9
640x480 37.972
640x480 37.86   75
800x600 35.16   56.3
800x600 37.88   60.3
800x600 48.09   72
800x600 46.975
1024x76848.36   60
1024x76856.48   70.1
1024x76860  75

/etc/X11/XF86Config-4:
### BEGIN DEBCONF SECTION
# XF86Config-4 (XFree86 server configuration file) generated by dexconf, the
# Debian X Configuration tool, using values from the debconf database.
#
# Edit this file with caution, and see the XF86Config-4 manual page.
# (Type "man XF86Config-4" at the shell prompt.)
#
# If you want your changes to this file preserved by dexconf, only make changes
# before the "### BEGIN DEBCONF SECTION" line above, and/or after the
# "### END DEBCONF SECTION" line below.
#
# To change things within the debconf section, run the command:
#   dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86
# as root.  Also see "How do I add custom sections to a dexconf-generated
# XF86Config or XF86Config-4 file?" in /usr/share/doc/xfree86-common/FAQ.gz.

Section "Files"
FontPath"unix/:7100"# local font server
# if the local font server has problems, we can fall back on these
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi"
EndSection

Section "Module"
Load"GLcore"
Load"bitmap"
Load"dbe"
Load"ddc"
Load"dri"
Load"extmod"
Load"freetype"
Load"glx"
Load"speedo"
Load"type1"
Load"vbe"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Generic Keyboard"
Driver  "keyboard"
Option  "CoreKeyboard"
Option  "XkbRules"  "xfree86"
Option  "XkbModel"  "pc104"
Option  "XkbLayout" "us"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Configured Mouse"
Driver  "mouse"
Option  "CorePointer"
Option  "Device""/dev/input/mice"
Option  "Protocol"  "ImPS/2"
Option  "ZAxisMapping"  "4 5"
EndSection

Section "Device"
Identifier  "ATI Mach64 Rage 3d +DVD"
Driver  "ati"
VideoRam8192
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier  "flatpanel"
HorizSync   30-60
VertRefresh 50-75
Option  "DPMS"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier  "Default Screen"
Device  "ATI Mach64 Rage 3d +DVD"
Monitor "flatpanel"
DefaultDepth16
SubSection "Display"
Depth   1
Modes   "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth   4
Modes   "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth   8
Modes   "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth   15
Modes   "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"

Re: ls color's messed up

2003-01-20 Thread Alan Shutko
"Curtis Spencer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> This one is kind of strange.  My ls colors work on everything except for
> executables.  In other words it turns archives red and directories blue,

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=175135

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Re: setup ofr the printer

2003-01-20 Thread Joris Huizer

--- Craig Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> apt-get install printtool

OK I've done that.
When I run printtool, I get warnings:
- Samba not installed
- ncpfs not installed

And then in the main window of printtool the text:
"lp|Generic dot-matrix printer entry  type
unrecognized"

I think that may be related to the missing programs
Sanba/ncpfs - which one should I install ? Or what
should I do ?



> 
> On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 11:56, Joris Huizer wrote:
> > Hello,
> > 
> > I know you can print a file using lpr and
> > configuration could be done using lpd - but lpd is
> not
> > present.
> > 
> > I've got a Lexmark Z31 printer. Although it seems
> to
> > be a "windows only" printer I had a driver for
> redhat
> > before.
> > 
> > Is there a driver and/or a howto for the printer
> > configuration available ?
> > 
> > Thanks in advance,
> > 
> > Joris Huizer
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restart / shutdown by normal user

2003-01-20 Thread Joris Huizer
Hello,

In the current (default) settings restarting &
shutting down is only allowed for the root user;
How can I change that so normal users can shut down
(restart) ?

Thanks.

Joris

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Re: [OT] custom dyndns.org domain & local bind

2003-01-20 Thread Matthew Daubenspeck
On Mon, Jan 20, 2003 at 02:47:38PM -0500, Kenneth Dombrowski wrote:
> Yes, the virtual hosts all listen on 
> 
> I still have some domains set up for the LAN only (they belong to me, 
> but are not registered with dyndns.org yet), these are VirtualHosts with 
> the same apache configuration and they work fine, as shown below..

So what exactly isn't working? I can see the Debian test page at
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Webmin CD Burn

2003-01-20 Thread Curtis Vaughan
I've been trying to use the Webmin CD Burner app (cdrecord) with little 
success.

Perhaps the problem is the fact that I am using an iso-scsi device, 
which is picked up by CD Burner.  That's fine.

I want to burn files. So, when I do a test burn, here is my output:

*Testing burn with command cdrecord -v dev=0,0,0 speed=2 -dummy 
'/tmp/.webmin/burner.iso' ..*

scsidev: '0,0,0'
scsibus: 0 target: 0 lun: 0
Linux sg driver version: 3.1.22
Cdrecord 1.10 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2001 Jörg Schilling
TOC Type: 1 = CD-ROM
Using libscg version 'schily-0.5'
atapi: 1
Device type: Removable CD-ROM
Version: 0
Response Format: 1
Vendor_info: 'RICOH   '
Identifikation : 'MP6200A '
Revision   : '2.20'
Device seems to be: Generic mmc CD-RW.
Using generic SCSI-3/mmc CD-R driver (mmc_cdr).
Driver flags   : SWABAUDIO
Drive buf size : 786432 = 768 KB
FIFO size  : 4194304 = 4096 KB
cdrecord: Drive needs to reload the media to return to proper status.
Track 01: data1 MB
Total size:   2 MB (00:13.04) = 978 sectors
Lout start:   2 MB (00:15/03) = 978 sectors
Current Secsize: 2048
ATIP info from disk:
 Indicated writing power: 5
 Reference speed: 2
 Is not unrestricted
 Is erasable
 ATIP start of lead in:  -11615 (97:27/10)
 ATIP start of lead out: 962 (00:14/62)
 speed low: 0 speed high: 4
 power mult factor: 4 5
 recommended erase/write power: 3
 A2 values: 00 00 00
Disk type:Phase change
Manuf. index: 18
Manufacturer: Plasmon Data systems Ltd.
Trying to clear drive status.
Blocks total: 1166730 Blocks current: 1166730 Blocks remaining: 1165752
Starting to write CD/DVD at speed 2 in dummy mode for single session.
Last chance to quit, starting dummy write in 9 seconds.8 seconds.7 seconds.6 seconds.5 seconds.4 seconds.3 seconds.2 seconds.1 seconds.0 seconds. Operation starts.
Waiting for reader process to fill input buffer ... cdrecord: Input/output error. read track info: scsi sendcmd: no error
CDB:  52 01 00 00 00 FF 00 00 1C 00
status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION)
Sense Bytes: 70 00 05 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 24 00 00 00
Sense Key: 0x5 Illegal Request, Segment 0
Sense Code: 0x24 Qual 0x00 (invalid field in cdb) Fru 0x0
Sense flags: Blk 0 (not valid) 
cmd finished after 0.003s timeout 240s
input buffer ready.
Writing  time:0.035s
Fixating...
WARNING: Some drives don't like fixation in dummy mode.
Fixating time:0.007s
cdrecord: fifo had 32 puts and 0 gets.
cdrecord: fifo was 0 times empty and 0 times full, min fill was 100%.



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ls color's messed up

2003-01-20 Thread Curtis Spencer
This one is kind of strange.  My ls colors work on everything except for
executables.  In other words it turns archives red and directories blue,
but
Files with 700 privileges are still gray.  When I just use 'ls --color'
do I not get any green.  However, when I use ls --color -l it works
fine.  Strange...

Any help would be appreciated

Curtis


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Quick aptitude question...

2003-01-20 Thread ZephyrQ

I'm trying to take better control of my installation, and fired up
aptitude.  I inadvertently tried to do an upgrade (to woody rc1) a while
back and am trying to cancel it.  Is there a way to 'wipe' queued
actions and/or reset aptitude?

Yes, I've RTFM, but haven't gotten anywhere except 'pkgstate' in
/var/lib/aptitude.  Can I delete this without undo problems?  And will
this accomplish my task?

Thank you.

 




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Re: GRUB -- hangs on boot

2003-01-20 Thread Rainer Koenig
will trillich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> any reason why grub would hang on startup? i see "GRUB" after
> the bios stuff, and then... nothing.

Can you type at this point? Maybe what you are seeing is the GRUB shell
prompt. Try things like "help" to get a help. 
 
> a friend suggested trying windo~1 fdisk to make it a fat32
> drive, wiping previous linux stuff off, then retrynig with a new
> linux (ext3) partition scheme. i tried that (i think) and still,
> hang on boot after seeing "GRUB".

Did you read the GRUB manual? :-)
 
> is there a trick i missed in writing the boot sectors? (lilo
> worked on the machine in the past...)

The trick is to have a working /boot/grub/menu.lst 
(or /boot/boot/grub/menu.lst in case that /boot is an extra partition).
Usually you have to do the following steps:
1. RTFM :-)
2. install grub using grub-install as it is described in the manual
3. run update-grub to create a basic menu.lst
4. Edit that menu.lst to let update-grub know about your partitions
5. run update-grub again
6. Reboot the system and you should get a boot menu and also the
   ability to use the grub shell

Hope that helps
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Re: themes for vt

2003-01-20 Thread Vikki Roemer
On Mon, Jan 20, 2003 at 08:14:00PM +0100, Niels Felsted Thorsen wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Vikki Roemer) writes:
> 
> > Hi!
> > I'm trying to track down a package that I had installed back when I
> > was running Potato.  AFAICT, the package is not in Woody (for whatever
> > reason).  I can't remember the name of the package, but it had tons of
> > themes for the console-- it would look like CLIs from other OSs (RDOS,
> > MSDOS, C-64, etc.), and it also had a bunch of original themes.  I've
> > just spent the last ~3 hours googling and wandering around the Debian
> > website looking for the package, with no luck.
> > 
> > Does anyone else have any idea what I'm talking about, or was that
> > package just a hallucination, or what??
> > 
> > If someone could tell me what the name of the package was or (even
> > better) where I can find it (or something like it), I'd really
> > appreciate it.
> 
> Is it something like bashish you're looking for?
> 
> http://bashish.sourceforge.net/about.html

Yes, that's it!  Thank you!  :)

> But I don't know about any debian package.

Yeah, it was a package in potato r7, IIRC.  Or at least, that's how I
got ahold of it in July-- at that point, I was too much of a newbie to
install any other way besides apt.  Unfortunately, when I did a
clean install with Libranet in August, I ended up overwriting the
package and I couldn't find it after that.

But I just downloaded it now, so I won't have plain old white-on-black
consoles anymore. :)

Thank you.

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Compaq with NC7781 NIC

2003-01-20 Thread Daniel Fabian
Hi,

I'm trying to install debian on a compaq server with an nc7781 nic-card. The
driver for linux can be downloaded from
http://h18007.www1.hp.com/support/files/networking/nics/Compaq_NC7781_Gigabi
t_Ethernet_NICs.html, but unfortunatly this is only a srpm for suse and
redhat.

I downloaded the precompiled module for Woody from
http://people.debian.org/~blade/install/preload/ and during the installation
process I switched to the console and copied bmc5700.o to
/usr/lib/modules/kernel/drivers/net. When I tried to load the modules I got
the errormessage "init_module: no such device". However I know for sure that
there is a NC7781 in the server.

Does anyone know what I have to do to enable the NIC?

Thanks in advance,
Daniel

PS: Please CC me when you reply as I'm not subscribed to the mailinglist.
However I'll read the archive too, just in case.



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Re: how to determine hd partitioning?

2003-01-20 Thread will trillich
On Mon, Jan 20, 2003 at 02:32:54PM -0500, Matthew Weier O'Phinney wrote:
> -- Matthew Weier O'Phinney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
> (on Sunday, 19 January 2003, 06:30 PM -0500):
> > I had my *newest* computer's motherboard crap out on me
> > Friday night, and I'm trying to grab the data from its hard
> > drive. I've thrown it into my older machine, and it's being
> > recognized fine as /dev/hdd -- but I can't remember its
> > partitioning scheme, and thus don't know what partition(s)
> > to mount and what fs they each use (it had dual-booted
> > windows and debian before, hence the need for both partition
> > and fs-type).
> > 
> > How can I determine the drive's partition scheme?

> Thanks to everyone who responded to this -- I was able to see the
> partitioning using fdisk.

and as for figuring which partition was mounted where, once you
find your root partition, locate /etc/fstab, and it should
answer most of your questions.

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Trying to CREATE A CRONTAB FOR THE LAST DAY OF THE MONTH?  Best
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Re: vim and basic .bashrc questions

2003-01-20 Thread will trillich
On Mon, Jan 20, 2003 at 02:22:35AM +, iain d broadfoot wrote:
> * Seneca ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > On Sun, Jan 19, 2003 at 04:37:13PM -0800, CM Miller wrote:
> > > Also, I have been able to set .bashrc preferences as
> > > root, like "rm = rm -i".  This works for root, but not
> > > for my user cmmiller.  

> however, this is a _BAD_IDEA_.
> 
> if you happen to sit down at a machine where this alias is not active,
> and you think it is, guess what happens? :p
> 
> iain

quite so. best to make a whole 'nother alias and use that
instead. zap, delete, xx...

alias xx='rm -i'

then you won't be in the habit of expecing a round of
confirmations when you try 'rm' on someone else's machine.
the worst that'll happen is you get

$ xx thisfile.ext
bash: xx: command not found

better than losing a file you really didn't want to delete.

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Do you know WHICH SHELL YOU'RE RUNNING? If not, you can find out:
ps T
and the first item listed is most likely to be your shell.
(Valid shells are listed in /etc/shells.) The default user shell
for Debian is bash, which you can learn about via "man bash".

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Debian V3 R1 install, not

2003-01-20 Thread Tcat Houser
I am fighing an Adaptac SCSI controller with the Debian CD. I have tried the
no_reset, no_probe and it is no luck.

I guess I am wondering how (or if a boot floppy set would work) because I
have exactly one choice on this IBM 325. The Adaptac controller for hard
drives and CD.

I did an archive search and it seems like somebody did something but the
tread doesn't seem to keep a subject line that threads back cleanly
Looking forward to kicking this into installing before I kick the machine
;-)

TIA,
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Re: kill with regex?

2003-01-20 Thread will trillich
try

man pidof

:)

On Sun, Jan 19, 2003 at 01:37:07PM -0500, Antonio Rodriguez wrote:
> Jor-el wrote:
> >On Sun, 19 Jan 2003, Colin Watson wrote:
> >>On Sun, Jan 19, 2003 at 05:32:19PM +0100, Philipp Gruemmer wrote:
> >>>Hugh Saunders wrote:
> ps x gives a list of xine's which i would like to kill
> 2) how do i get kill or bash to realise its an expression?

> > A more general solution would be :
> >
> >  | xargs kill

> How would you produce this list?

pidof 

$ ps ax | grep apache-perl
 2642 ?S  0:02 /usr/sbin/apache-perl
24276 ?S  0:00 /usr/sbin/apache-perl
24601 ?S  0:00 /usr/sbin/apache-perl
25056 ?S  0:00 /usr/sbin/apache-perl
25220 ?S  0:00 /usr/sbin/apache-perl
25640 pts/0S  0:00 -usr/bin/tcsh -c (ps ax | grep apache-perl) < 
/tmp/v118216/4 >&/tmp/v118216/5
25648 pts/0S  0:00 grep apache-perl

note that with grep you either get false hits, or have to do
more complicated matches to skip the false hits...

$ pidof apache-perl
25220 25056 24601 24276 2642

easy! so you could

$ kill `pidof xine`

and be done. :)

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How do you RESTORE THE DEFAULT PERMISSIONS back on the / tree?
If you have a clean host with very similar filesystem contents,
try this:
ssh root@okayhost "find / -regex '/\(mnt\|proc\|tmp\)/.*' -prune -or \
  -not -type l -not -type s -printf '%04.4m %u %g %p\n' " \
| while read mode user group path
do 
  chown $user.$group $path 
  chmod $mode $path 
done 
Alternatively, create a huge script like this:
find / -regex '/\(mnt\|proc\|tmp\)/.*' -prune -or \
  -not -type l -not -type s -printf 'chown %u.%g %p\nchmod %m %p\n' \
  > fixperms.sh
And copy that to the broken machine and run "sh fixperms".
  It might not fix all files, unless the two hosts are nearly
equal, but enough to let you find the missing ones to fix by
hand.  Maybe /home/* will need special care.

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Re: How to change start up screen resolution for X?

2003-01-20 Thread will trillich
On Sun, Jan 19, 2003 at 02:49:29AM -0500, Travis Crump wrote:
> What I do is just make up a second Section "Screen" in the same 
> XF86Config-4 and give it its own identifier.  When I want to use it I 
> just do:
> 
> startx -- :1 -screen 

but how do you FIGURE OUT WHICH RESOLUTIONS your monitor can
handle?  i've tried xvidtune, xf86cfg, xf86config,
dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86, discover read-edid (major
lockup, there), xviddetect, XFree86 -configure...

all i can get is 800x600 which ain't much. :(

i've googled for MEMOREX-TELEX (CDS-4583) and haven't found much
in the way of answers for horiz/vert refresh or clock speeds.
anybody know of a site somewhere that's got a collection of that
kind of info?

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GRUB -- hangs on boot

2003-01-20 Thread will trillich
any reason why grub would hang on startup? i see "GRUB" after
the bios stuff, and then... nothing.

a friend suggested trying windo~1 fdisk to make it a fat32
drive, wiping previous linux stuff off, then retrynig with a new
linux (ext3) partition scheme. i tried that (i think) and still,
hang on boot after seeing "GRUB".

is there a trick i missed in writing the boot sectors? (lilo
worked on the machine in the past...)

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Did you know that you can SWITCH BETWEEN VIRTUAL CONSOLES using
leftalt+cursor{left,right}? To change from vc4 to vc5, press
alt-cursorright.  Going back to X from vc1 is as simple as
alt-cursorleft. (It doesn't work when you're already within
X11, though -- but control-alt-F1 does.)

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Re: [OT] custom dyndns.org domain & local bind

2003-01-20 Thread Kenneth Dombrowski
Matthew Daubenspeck wrote:

Kenneth Dombrowski said:


I am trying to set up a http://dev.domain.tld VirtualHost as well as a
http://www.domain.tld VirtualHost, which was working fine in Apache from
the LAN when I was serving the DNS myself, and is reportedly working
now  from without the LAN




Do you have the Apache virtual host listening to the machine's local ip?
(192.168.0.x)

I am also using dyndns.org and a netgear router, and I have no problems
whatsoever.



Yes, the virtual hosts all listen on 

I still have some domains set up for the LAN only (they belong to me, 
but are not registered with dyndns.org yet), these are VirtualHosts with 
the same apache configuration and they work fine, as shown below..


kenneth@enlil:~$ wget http://www.music-db.net
--14:22:29--  http://www.music-db.net/
   => `index.html.1'
Resolving www.music-db.net... done.
Connecting to www.music-db.net[192.168.0.3]:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 4,110 [text/html]

100%[>] 4,110  3.92M/s 
ETA 00:00

14:22:29 (3.92 MB/s) - `index.html.1' saved [4110/4110]

kenneth@enlil:~$ wget http://dev.music-db.net
--14:22:39--  http://dev.music-db.net/
   => `index.html.2'
Resolving dev.music-db.net... done.
Connecting to dev.music-db.net[192.168.0.3]:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 4,110 [text/html]

100%[>] 4,110501.71K/s 
ETA 00:00

14:22:39 (501.71 KB/s) - `index.html.2' saved [4110/4110]



also, supporting the reports I've had that the outside world can see 
http://www.kuboaa.org, something's turned up in the server's logs:

ENKIDU:/var/www/kuboaa.org# ls -l ./*/log
./dev/log:
total 32
-rw-r-1 root adm 0 Jan 12 06:25 access.log
-rw-r-1 root adm 0 Jan 12 06:25 error.log

./www/log:
total 44
-rw-r-1 root adm   383 Jan 20 13:40 access.log
-rw-r-1 root adm 0 Jan 12 06:25 error.log

ENKIDU:/var/www/kuboaa.org# cat www/log/access.log
66.123.187.68 - - [20/Jan/2003:13:40:16 -0500] "GET / HTTP/1.0" 200 4110 
"-" "Mozilla/4.5 RPT-HTTPClient/0.3-2"
66.123.187.68 - - [20/Jan/2003:13:40:16 -0500] "GET / HTTP/1.0" 200 4110 
"-" "Mozilla/4.5 RPT-HTTPClient/0.3-2"



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Re: Install all packages

2003-01-20 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Mon, Jan 20, 2003 at 08:04:57PM +0700, Hansel Yapadi wrote:
> How to install all packages in the cds during installation? because I 
> wanna try those software

This is what you want to do if you have a lot of tome and harddisk :)

(You can not put all of them blindly.  Enven if you can, how do you know
command for it as others have said..)

For newbies, here is practical answer: from root shell

 # dselect update
 # tasksel
 ... select everything (maybe not all thise foreign language you do not
 understand...)

Have fun.

If you feel like, then add more through dselect or aptitude.

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Re: how to determine hd partitioning?

2003-01-20 Thread Matthew Weier O'Phinney
-- Matthew Weier O'Phinney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
(on Sunday, 19 January 2003, 06:30 PM -0500):
> I had my *newest* computer's motherboard crap out on me Friday night,
> and I'm trying to grab the data from its hard drive. I've thrown it into
> my older machine, and it's being recognized fine as /dev/hdd -- but I
> can't remember its partitioning scheme, and thus don't know what
> partition(s) to mount and what fs they each use (it had dual-booted
> windows and debian before, hence the need for both partition and
> fs-type).
> 
> How can I determine the drive's partition scheme?

Thanks to everyone who responded to this -- I was able to see the
partitioning using fdisk.

Only problem is... the disk is a 40GB drive, and this older machine can
only handle drives up to 32GB. While I can see the partitioning and
access a good portion of the disk, I cannot get a large chunk of the
data off it that I need. I guess that'll teach me to back up to a hard
drive (instead of removable media)...

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