Re: wine and IE

[Gary Turner]

Paul Johnson wrote:

>On Tue, Feb 18, 2003 at 03:07:59PM -0600, DvB wrote:
>> I've never done this, but I've seen it done (with me own eyes! :-) I
>> don't think it worked as well as the native Linux browsers and probably
>> would crash as soon as it started doing its Direct-X crap but, for your
>> purposes, it would probably work (one would assume you do standards
>> compliant development).
>
>Well, if that's the assumption, why bother getting IE to work at all?
>If you go to the standard, and it works in one browser, than
>it'll work anywhere.  Save yourself the trouble.  8:o)

If only that were true.  Every page I produce is 100% W3C compliant.
That's not enough.  In the area of CSS alone, IE for Windows is not
compliant, while IE for Mac is.  NS v>6, and Mozilla v>.8 are.  Opera is
not.  And, let's not even get into how tables and frames are handled.
If you develop for the web, you just have to test, and test on every
browser (old and new) users might possibly choose.

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Re: cache for packages

[Richard Hector]

On Thu, Feb 20, 2003 at 04:43:02PM +1000, Alan E. Davis wrote:
> I have four or five machines running linux on our local network.  Can
> someone point me to the easy instructions for setting up a cache of
> packages on one system, so that if packages are already on a local
> machine, they won't be ftped again?  

I've found apt-proxy to be very good - debian stable is running on 6 or 7
machines here, with very few packages needing to be downloaded. I've also
run jigdo through it for the first 2 CDs; that primed it nicely :-)
I wouldn't have bothered if I hadn't needed to install a machine that
is offsite, though. And the jigdo was nice and fast with lots of the stuff
already here.

I did have a bit of hassle setting up the conf file in the first place,
but I think that was me trying to be clever and set up multiple sources
for the packages - the official NZ mirror is close to my ISP, but my ISP
has one as well. The ISP one is free but slightly less reliable; the
official one doesn't cost much either though, so I'm now only using that.
I do also have a source set up for security, so that comes through the
cache as well.

I'm not sufficiently confident to post my conf, though, and anyway the
sources will be wrong for most people.

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Test (ignore safely)

[Ismael Valladolid Torres]

Hi,

This is just a test message, you can ignore it safely. Sorry to
disturb.

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Re: Loging to Debian Linux via SSH

[Nick Hastings]

Hi,

* alef-forum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [030220 08:52]:
> Hello debian-user,
> 
>   please help.
> 
>   I have a server running on Debian Linux.
>   When I'm trying to login via SSH it takes a lot of time.
> 
>   I enter username

This puzzles me; what ssh client are you using? Sounds like some gui.
What happens is you use a different client?

>   waits 6 - 10 seconds to show enter password.
>   then password

Can you look at the "verbose" output of your ssh client? eg. if
unix/linux command line, then something like

ssh -v username@machine

Are other authentications being tried? Are both the client and the
server using ssh 1/2? These are both things that can slow down the
process.

What happens if you're on the server and do the following?

ssh -v localhost


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how do i patch a freeswan kernel?

[thing]

whats the sequence of commands to patch please?

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[SOLVED] Re: DRI not enabled - Why?

[Kent West]

Some months ago I posted asking why DRI wasn't working on my system with
a Rage 128 PF/PRO AGP 4x TMDS (as reported by lspci) card. Everything
looked fine.

Just now I found this information at
https://listman.redhat.com/pipermail/xfree86-list/2001q3/74.html:

>It is critically important to everyone using DRI to set it up
>properly for their hardware.  This means knowing that some
>hardware such as the Voodoo3 and Banshee *ONLY* has hardware
>support at 16 bit depth.  So 24bpp is unsupported in hardware
>completely.

and

>For DRI to work properly, it requires a lot of video RAM.  The
>general ballpark is 4 times the amount of RAM that your 2D
>resolution is using.  So take your x res and y res, multiply
>them, then multiply that by the number of bytes per pixel
>(2=16bpp,4=24/32bpp).  That gives you your 2D RAM usage.  On top
>of that, X needs RAM for mouse pointers, and other pixmaps,
>etc...  If this total is more than 1/4 of your video RAM, it is
>possible that DRI will either not start, or more likely, it will
>start, and will eventually hang your machine.
>
>Of course, this is all general advice based on a *LOT* of
>experimentation, advice of the XFree86 and DRI project members,
>and also user feedback and bug reports.


So I dropped my res down from 1600x1200x24 to 1280x1024x24, and sure
enough, that got DRI working for me. So it looks like if I want to have
the higher res with DRI, I'm gonna have to up my video RAM. Still, it's
great to have finally found the solution.

Thanks for everyone's input!

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cache for packages

[Alan E . Davis]

I have four or five machines running linux on our local network.  Can someone point me 
to the easy instructions for setting up a cache of packages on one system, so that if 
packages are already on a local machine, they won't be ftped again?  

It's a tribute to Debian GNU/Linux that, running sid on these machines, which were 
disconnected for some six to seven months, three so far have upgraded without a single 
major problem using apt-get and aptitude.  Aptitude has worked, when apt-get didn't.  
Thanks to everyone from a long time use, who never "got it" as far as developing 
packages. (Too busy teaching and doing science).

Alan Davis
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Re: use of spamassassin and razor

[Sandip P Deshmukh]

On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 01:44:55PM +, Colin Watson wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 06:34:26PM +0530, Sandip P Deshmukh wrote:
> > frankly, i do not understand how to use spamassassin and razor.
> > 
> > or how exactly does it do the job. i just want the spam to be marked and
> > pushed to a specific mutt folder.
> 
> SpamAssassin just tags the mail. You need to use procmail or similar to
> decide what to do with the tag.

well, currently, my spamassassin is not even tagging the mail. will i
have to make changes to exim also? is there an easy to understand,
step-by-step guide to do that?

> Here's a heavily cut-down and additionally-commented version of my
> .procmailrc. The real version has rules for all kinds of mailing lists
> and so on, but this illustrates the basics.

well, i do not have procmail. but i do have a .forward file that is an
exim filter. would that be adequate to do the job? but i got a hint of
what you are doing in procmailrc and it is close to what i would like to
do.

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Re: phoenix java plugin - installed, but not installed

[Geordie Birch]

said Sandip P Deshmukh (on 2003-02-20),

> i recently downloaded phoenix tar ball (binary files) and expanded it in
> my home directory.

> what do i need to do to get java going? several sites seem to run
> tickers etc using java.

$ ls -l /usr/local/bin/phoenix/plugins/
total 1460
-rw-r--r--1 geordie  geordie   856 Jan 26 04:16 flashplayer.xpt
lrwxrwxrwx1 geordie  geordie59 Feb 10 23:48 javaplugin_oji.so
-> /usr/lib/j2se/1.3/jre/plugin/i386/mozilla/javaplugin_oji.so
-rwxr-xr-x1 geordie  geordie   1464736 Jan 26 04:16 libflashplayer.so
-rwxr-xr-x1 geordie  geordie 19824 Feb 19 09:49 libnullplugin.so

> is there a standard way to install plugins after one has downloaded and
> installed phoenix the way i have?

see http://plugindoc.mozdev.org/linux.html and substitute "phoenix" for
"mozilla".

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Re: use of spamassassin and razor

[Sandip P Deshmukh]

On Thu, Feb 20, 2003 at 06:55:29AM +0100, Alex Polite wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 06:34:26PM +0530, Sandip P Deshmukh wrote:
> > i have recently installed spamassassin and razor, hoping it will reduce
> > my spam burden.
> 
> Don't bother with those tools. Spambayes[1], the new kid on the block,
> uses a statistical approach and is IMHO a lot better.

thanx for your suggestion. are there any .deb files for that? i checked
in my aptitude and nothing was available. a newbie here and cant even
get a nice debian package to work! :(

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some apps are too big on my fujitsu

[Xavier Barnabe-Theriault]

Hello

On a fujitsu p-2120 running testing, the gui to load files on xmms and
the gv postscript viewer are way too big compared to a simple but
obediant xterm.

I thought  it was first related to fonts, but after having played
w/gtkrc, I affected ... fonts ! not the overwhelming size of boxes.
Moreover, it is not related to gv. 

So ended trying w/ helpful comments to let my X determine the dpi,
switching from 100x100 to 75x75 when removing the "-dpi 100" from my
/etc/X11/xdm/Xservers. Nothing visible changed.

So, now, where should I look ? any idea ?

X

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Re[2]: Loging to Debian Linux via SSH

[alef-forum]

Hello Colin,

Wednesday, February 19, 2003, 3:36:58 PM, you wrote:

CW> On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 03:20:26PM +0100, alef-forum wrote:
>>   I have a server runnig on Debian Linux.
>>   When I'm trying to login via SSH it takes a lot of time.

CW> What architecture?

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RE: debconf and dpkg-reconfigure behavior

[Carlo U. Segre]

done that, no difference.  The debconf manual states that when you run
dpkg-reconfigure debconf, it will always ask the questions.  This is
abnormal behavior...

Thanks

Carlo

On Wed, 19 Feb 2003, Narins, Josh wrote:

> Sounds like your debconf priority got set to "critical" ?
>
> Try
> > dpkg-reconfigure --priority low debconf
>
> Actually, I am not in front of a debian box now, perhaps "low" should be in
> quotes.
>
> I believe there is also an environment variable you can set to do the same
> thing.
>
>
>
> hth,
> -Josh
>
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Carlo U. Segre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 7:26 PM
> > To: Debian Users List
> > Subject: debconf and dpkg-reconfigure behavior
> >
> >
> >
> > Hello:
> >
> > I have just encountered a problem that I have never seen during the
> > installation of many, many Debian machines.  I am mysitified
> > and perhaps
> > someone has a suggestion (probably some thing stupid, of course).
> >
> > I have been asked to help out with a newly installed machine
> > (Woody) and
> > when I added packages, I noticed that there were no debconf screens or
> > questions for any packages.
> >
> > The command
> >
> > # dpkg-recnfigure debconf
> > #
> >
> > Just returns to the prompt with no other output.  From the
> > debconf manual,
> > this should at least ask me the quetions using the Dialog method.
> >
> > I have tried installing all the packages that exist on a working
> > installation and this has no effect.  I have tried manually
> > editing the
> > /var/cache/debconf/config.dat file to set options the way I
> > want them for
> > debconf but when I rerun the command above, debconf wipes out
> > all the text
> > I had placed in the file for debconf.  The entries now look like:
> >
> > Name: debconf/frontend
> > Template: debconf/frontend
> > Value:
> > Owners: debconf
> > Flags: seen
> >
> > Name: debconf/priority
> > Template: debconf/priority
> > Value:
> > Owners: debconf
> > Flags: seen
> >
> > This is quite mystifying and I really do not know how to get
> > out of this
> > funny state.  I have tried to uninstall debconf (using
> > --force-depends)
> > and then reinstalling it to no avail.
> >
> > Help!
> >
> > Carlo
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Re: [OT] How fast are scanners nowadays?

[Michael Heironimus]

On Thu, Feb 20, 2003 at 06:44:03AM +0100, Alex Polite wrote:
> Sorry for this grossly OT post. I'd like to scan a whole lot of
> documents and run them through OCR. Last time I checked scanning a
> page of text took something like two minutes. This is way to slow for
> my purposes. I'd need something that works with the speed of a
> photocopier. An alternative would be to have something that can
> process a whole stack of papers automatically.
> 
> Anyone that has had any experiences with this?

You can get scanners with sheet feeders. Some are actual dedicated
high-speed/high-capacity scanners, those are very expensive. More
economical are the ones that are ordinary flatbed scanners, but the top
lid is replaced by a sheet feeder attachment that works pretty much the
same way as the top-mounted sheet feeders on copy machines. Scanning
doesn't take 2 minutes per page anymore, but add in OCR and it probably
takes at least that long.

Off the top of my head I can't give you model numbers or anything, but
if you go to some big reseller site like cdw.com you should be able to
find some of these. It used to be that a lot of HP scanners just swapped
the top lid like I said, you could later add the sheet feeder or buy it
preinstalled just like the duplex adapter on most printers.

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Re: wine and IE

[Paul Johnson]

On Tue, Feb 18, 2003 at 03:07:59PM -0600, DvB wrote:
> I've never done this, but I've seen it done (with me own eyes! :-) I
> don't think it worked as well as the native Linux browsers and probably
> would crash as soon as it started doing its Direct-X crap but, for your
> purposes, it would probably work (one would assume you do standards
> compliant development).

Well, if that's the assumption, why bother getting IE to work at all?
If you go to the standard, and it works in one browser, than
it'll work anywhere.  Save yourself the trouble.  8:o)

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bogomips ?

[Egor Tur]

Hi.
A little question: programme `linux_logo' show 1264.84 Bogomips Total on my system,
but `bogomips' - 634.00 BogoMips. Why do these values be different?
Thanx.


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Re: USB mass storage and kernel 2.4.18

[Dai Yuwen]

sean finney wrote:

> heya, i have it running fine, and i'm
>
> balthasar[~]00:13:09$ uname -a
> Linux balthasar 2.4.19 #1 Sat Nov 16 15:49:07 EST 2002 i686 unknown 
unknown GNU/Linux
>
> but i believe i've had it working on 2.4.18 as well.  i believe you
> just need more modules installed.  here's an edited output of my lsmod,
> maybe you need some of these other modules loaded too, like usbcore
> or usb-uhci?
>
> balthasar[~]00:13:14$ /sbin/lsmod Module  Size  Used by 
   Not tainted
> usb-storage97744   0  (unused)
> usb-uhci   20908   0 (unused)
> usbcore54112   0 [hid usb-uhci]
> vfat9276   0  (autoclean)
> fat29080   0  (autoclean) [vfat]
> sd_mod  9932   0 (autoclean)
> scsi_mod   80296   1 [sd_mod]
>
>

Thank you very much.  After I

modprobe usb-uhci

I can mount /dev/sda1 /mnt.

Conclusion:
To use this USB flash disk, just install these 3 modules:
sg usb-storage usb-uhci


> if this isn't the case, try doing a tail -f /var/log/messages before
> you plug it in, then plug it in, and take a look at whatever it says
> for clues
>
>
> hth
> sean
>

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Re: use of spamassassin and razor

[Alex Polite]

On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 06:34:26PM +0530, Sandip P Deshmukh wrote:
> i have recently installed spamassassin and razor, hoping it will reduce
> my spam burden.

Don't bother with those tools. Spambayes[1], the new kid on the block,
uses a statistical approach and is IMHO a lot better.

alex


Footnotes: 
[1]  http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/

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Re: phoenix java plugin - installed, but not installed

[CaT]

On Thu, Feb 20, 2003 at 10:45:38AM +0530, Sandip P Deshmukh wrote:
> what do i need to do to get java going? several sites seem to run
> tickers etc using java.

http://mozilla.weebeastie.net/ and change .mozilla to .phoenix (I think
- don't use phoenix myself).

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Re: Nvidia and X

[Steve Webster]

Jonah Sherman wrote:


On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 07:33:33AM +, Steve Webster wrote:
 

I compiled a new kernel, 2.4.18, for ACPI and nvidia drivers. All went 
well, eventually. After updating my XF86Config-4 I tried re-starting 
x-windows. All I got was a black screen, no flashes of color, nothing. I 
couldn't see any consoles either and had to do a re-boot.

   


I had this problem a long time ago.  It turns out, the nvidia drivers do
not like to share IRQs with other cards.  I had this without ACPI, and
when I disabled my sound card(what was using same IRQ) in the BIOS, the 
problem was fixed.  ACPI tends to bunch alot of things onto 1 irq.  As 
nvidia doesn't wish to open the source to their drivers, there is nothing 
that can be done to fix this, other than trying "pci=noacpi" on the kernel
boot line, or moving your PCI cards to different slots.
 

I added the append line to lilo.conf and it worked! Don't know why I'm 
so surprised. I suppose it's because I've been battling with this for a 
few days now and didn't expect anything. There is little or no 
documentation on this phenomenon and the ACPI docs are rather terse 
about 'pci=noacpi', blink and you'll miss it. Couldn't find anything 
about it in the nvidia README's either. Maybe I've just gone a bit 
cross-eyed. Anyway, I now have x-windows back.

Thank you.   Steve.




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[OT] How fast are scanners nowadays?

[Alex Polite]

Sorry for this grossly OT post. I'd like to scan a whole lot of
documents and run them through OCR. Last time I checked scanning a
page of text took something like two minutes. This is way to slow for
my purposes. I'd need something that works with the speed of a
photocopier. An alternative would be to have something that can
process a whole stack of papers automatically.

Anyone that has had any experiences with this?


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Re: USB mass storage and kernel 2.4.18

[sean finney]

heya, i have it running fine, and i'm

balthasar[~]00:13:09$ uname -a
Linux balthasar 2.4.19 #1 Sat Nov 16 15:49:07 EST 2002 i686 unknown unknown GNU/Linux

but i believe i've had it working on 2.4.18 as well.  i believe you
just need more modules installed.  here's an edited output of my lsmod,
maybe you need some of these other modules loaded too, like usbcore
or usb-uhci?

balthasar[~]00:13:14$ /sbin/lsmod 
Module  Size  Used byNot tainted
usb-storage97744   0  (unused)
usb-uhci   20908   0 (unused)
usbcore54112   0 [hid usb-uhci]
vfat9276   0  (autoclean)
fat29080   0  (autoclean) [vfat]
sd_mod  9932   0 (autoclean)
scsi_mod   80296   1 [sd_mod]


if this isn't the case, try doing a tail -f /var/log/messages before
you plug it in, then plug it in, and take a look at whatever it says
for clues


hth
sean

On Thu, Feb 20, 2003 at 12:46:44PM +0800, Dai Yuwen wrote:
> Hi, All
> 
> I've a 64M USB flash disk.  I searched the internet, and did the following 
> steps:
> 
> 1. plug USB disk into my PC
> 2. modprobe sg usb-storage
> 
> Then I tried to mount it:
>mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
> 
> But a messages said `/dev/sda1 is not a valid block device'.
> 
> Then I checked this file:
> 
> 3. cat /proc/scsi/scsi
> Attached device: none
> 
> I use the stock kernel image of debian:
> uname -r
> 2.4.18-686
> 
> I also found some info that said kernel 2.4.18 had some problem in USB.  Is 
> that true?  If yes,  I'll have to compile another version of Linux kernel. 
>   Any idea?  Thanks in advance.
> 
> best regards,
> Dai Yuwen
> 
> 
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phoenix java plugin - installed, but not installed

[Sandip P Deshmukh]

hello all

i recently downloaded phoenix tar ball (binary files) and expanded it in
my home directory.

so, now there is /home/sandip/phoenix/phoenix executable. and it runs
fast.

when i visited some sites that needed java plugin, i installed it from
the dialogue box that came up. it showed installation complete. when i
restart the browser and revisit the same page, it asks for installation
of the plugin again.

i went to the phoenix home page and installed java plugin from there. no
use.

what do i need to do to get java going? several sites seem to run
tickers etc using java.

is there a standard way to install plugins after one has downloaded and
installed phoenix the way i have?

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Re: packages with configuration prompt twice

[Daniel B.]

Joey Hess wrote:
> 
> Daniel B. wrote:
> > * debconf/showold: true
> 
> This is your problem. You should dpkg-reconfigure debconf and turn it
> off. (or 'echo set debconf/showold false | debconf-communicate')

Are you sure?

When I run "dpkg-reconfigure debconf", the third menu screen says:


  Debconf normally only asks you any given question once. Then it   
  remembers your answer and never asks you that question again. If you  
  prefer, debconf can ask you questions over and over again, each time  
  you upgrade or reinstall a package that asks them.

  ...

  Show all old questions again and again?


(I think) I do want to see all questions every time I upgrade or
re-install something.  

I just don't want to see things _twice_ each time I upgrade or re-install
something.

Is that combination not possible?



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Re: Emacs and shell display

[Nick Willson]

On 2003-02-19 21:56, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > On Wednesday, February 19, 2003 12:30, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >> When I run a shell in emacs  shell
> >>
> >> I get this garbled output...
> >>
> >>  [mbfurry@EULER:~$ lss
> >
> > If this only occurred for ls, I'd suggest telling us what "lss" is an
> > alias for, however control characters (as shown by the box character)
> > are even appearing in your prompt.
> 
> lss was a typo in my part.
> 
> > The control characters look like they're trying to color the prompt and
> > file names.  This sort of colorization only works in some extended
> > terminals such as xterm-color and rxvt.
> 
> My .profile uses colorized  options.
> 
[...]
> 
> So I guess to use emacs shell capabiliteis I should not use colorized
> commands???
> 

Sorry if you have discussed this already, but adding this

(ansi-color-for-comint-mode-on)

to your .emacs might fix it.

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Re: Replicating a system... sort of

[nate]

Paul M Foster said:
> I'm attempting to set up a replacement system for the one on my desk.
> (When done, I'll swap them out.) This gets awfully tedious when I have to
> pick every package in dselect. My current desktop is a Woody, but the
> system I'm setting up is testing.
>
> I have a list of packages that I put on every system I run, for example:
> lynx, hextype, units, remind, links, nosql3, sqlite, etc. I'd like to be
> able to install a base system, put these package names in some text file,
> point dselect/apt (or something else) at it, and have them
> downloaded and configed as usual. Is there a package that does this?

on old machine:
dpkg --get-selections >selections

copy selections to new machine

dpkg --set-selections 

Re: How to duplicate a CD?

[Sharninder]

> I posted this a few months agoa, and got an answer involving
> cdparnoia, and cdrecord. But I sem to have lost the emails, and I
> can't seem to get the mailing list archive search engine to find
> it :-(
>

read from /dev/cdrom and pipe the output to mkisofs ... or use
cdparania to create wav files from audio cd and then burn using
cdrecord ...read the relevant manpages


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USB mass storage and kernel 2.4.18

[Dai Yuwen]

Hi, All

I've a 64M USB flash disk.  I searched the internet, and did the following 
steps:

1. plug USB disk into my PC
2. modprobe sg usb-storage

Then I tried to mount it:
  mount /dev/sda1 /mnt

But a messages said `/dev/sda1 is not a valid block device'.

Then I checked this file:

3. cat /proc/scsi/scsi
Attached device: none

I use the stock kernel image of debian:
uname -r
2.4.18-686

I also found some info that said kernel 2.4.18 had some problem in USB.  Is 
that true?  If yes,  I'll have to compile another version of Linux kernel. 
 Any idea?  Thanks in advance.

best regards,
Dai Yuwen



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Re: Debian on an iMac

[Jeff Elkins]

I found the ports page and that led me to lots and lots of info.  If anyone 
has some experience with gotchas, I'd appreciate hearing them.

Jeff

On Wednesday 19 February 2003 5:13 pm, Jeff Elkins wrote:
>Next week I'll be picking up a iMac/DVD-RAM/256Mb/20GbHD on which I'd like
> to install Debian Sid to dual-boot with OS 9x.
>
>If at all possible, I'd prefer a minimal install that I can enhance with
>apt-get/dselect, etc. A network install is fine too, since this box will be
>connected to a fast DSL line.
>
>Can someone point me to a FAQ so I can get my ducks in a row before next
>Wednesday, or share any tips?


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Replicating a system... sort of

[Paul M Foster]

I'm attempting to set up a replacement system for the one on my desk.
(When done, I'll swap them out.) This gets awfully tedious when I have
to pick every package in dselect. My current desktop is a Woody, but the
system I'm setting up is testing.

I have a list of packages that I put on every system I run, for example:
lynx, hextype, units, remind, links, nosql3, sqlite, etc. I'd like to be
able to install a base system, put these package names in some text
file, point dselect/apt (or something else) at it, and have them
downloaded and configed as usual. Is there a package that does this?

Paul


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Re: ppp server for debian

[nate]

shr-heng said:
> hi.
> excuse me , if i want to set " ppp server " in the debian system,
> where i can get the "ppp server" software.

I use portslave.. it's a PPP server with radius support. works well.

another option is to use mgetty.

nate




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Re: ppp server for debian

[Jason Clarke]

I used this for my dial in server.

http://www.swcp.com/~jgentry/

J
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From: shr-heng
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 2:57 PM
Subject: ppp server for debian


hi.
excuse me , if i want to set " ppp server " in the debian system, where
i can get the "ppp server" software.
 thanks
  dale



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Re: Explorer-type file manager

[Osamu Aoki]

On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 04:45:04AM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 18, 2003 at 11:57:09AM -0500, Matthew Weier O'Phinney wrote:
> > However, applications built for either desktop environment can
> > *typically* be run without *running* the desktop environment -- it just
> > means you have more libraries installed, and some processes from the
> > necessary DE may need to be started by the application in order to run
> > (kdeinit, bonobo, etc.).
> 
> That's correct.  The only gotcha is kicker and panel proglets don't
> work as expected, much like dock proglets for NeXTstep clones don't do
> what's expected when not running a NeXT-ish WM.

What is kicker?

Proglets sounds like progress bar graphics shown in panel area.

I am blackbox/flushbox user.  Enlighten me for Nextstep things :-)

Is there similar issues with GNOME/KDE? I do not know any other than
configuration utilities.

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Re: ppp server for debian

[Russell Shaw]

shr-heng wrote:

> hi.
> excuse me , if i want to set " ppp server " in the debian system,
> where i can get the "ppp server" software.

apt-cache search ppp


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Re: Group ID

[Russell Shaw]

Michael Wardle wrote:


On Thursday, February 20, 2003 08:14, Russell Shaw wrote:
 

I set them all to my own user:group, but mozilla seems to have
some 'stuck' settings. I found a useful command is:
 ps -eo pid,user,euser,fuser,group,egroup,fgroup,cmd
   


Ah!  So you're trying to set the correct permissions on the Mozilla 
configuration files!

The first thing to learn is it's best not to change permissions on files 
you didn't create. ;-)

Why not start a new Mozilla session with "mozilla -ProfileManager", 
create a new profile, and compare permissions?

I seems to have fixed it by unsubscribing then re-subscribing to
the relevant news groups.


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Debian on an iMac

[Jeff Elkins]

Next week I'll be picking up a iMac/DVD-RAM/256Mb/20GbHD on which I'd like to 
install Debian Sid to dual-boot with OS 9x. 

If at all possible, I'd prefer a minimal install that I can enhance with 
apt-get/dselect, etc. A network install is fine too, since this box will be 
connected to a fast DSL line. 

Can someone point me to a FAQ so I can get my ducks in a row before next 
Wednesday, or share any tips?

Thanks,

Jeff Elkins
http://www.elkins.org


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Re: Safety of Upgrading Unstable

[Joey Hess]

Brian Nelson wrote:
> David Z Maze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> >> I've been following debian-devel and debian-user looking for
> >> problems people have had with upgrading unstable and haven't seen that
> >> many (a few regarding kde / libfam issues).
> >
> > This is probably the best way to find out if something is broken in
> > unstable.  debian-devel-announce is also a good list to read (and is
> > far lower traffic).  And of course, if you find something broken, file
> > a bug report!  (http://bugs.debian.org/)
> 
> Also, the topic of #debian-devel on irc.freenode.net will usually list
> any major breakage as soon as it's discovered.  You'll probably find it
> there first, because it usually takes a little time to trickle down into
> the mailing lists.

The new apt-listbugs package (in experimental) is also handy; it will
query the BTS for RC bugs in the packages apt is about to
install/upgrade and warn you about them.

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ppp server for debian

[shr-heng]

hi.
    excuse me , if i want to set " ppp 
server " in the debian system, where i can get the "ppp server" 
software.
 
thanks 
  
dale
 

How to duplicate a CD?

[stan]

I posted this a few months agoa, and got an answer involving cdparnoia, and
cdrecord. But I sem to have lost the emails, and I can't seem to get the
mailing list archive search engine to find it :-(

So, how can I duplicat an audio CD? 

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Re: Issue mounting NFS directory

[Ian Melnick]

There could be a better way of doing this, but what seems to work is
just stopping the nfs-kernel-server service, moving all files in
/var/lib/nfs/ to a different directory, touching rmtab and restarting
nfs-kernel-server. exportfs -a and restart the autofs service on the client.


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I can't run vertex0.1.10-1

[江世楨]

The system message is
"Vertex triggered a segmentation fault(1 time)"
"Vertex triggered a segmentation fault(2 time)"
"Vertex triggered a segmentation fault(3 time)"
"Vertex attempting immediate process exit()"
How can I fix it?¡CRP‚D€Dzf¢–Úy¸šžë®·ª¹ë-–+-±×›‰©è®
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Re: Mozilla & Adobe's SVG viewer

[Oki DZ]

On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 07:46:54PM -0800, Eric G. Miller wrote:
> Last I knew, the Adobe plugin was only for Windows and only worked with
> MS IE.  Has that changed?

There is one for Linux (the libs' extension is .so). I think it is 
supposed to be working; question is, on what Mozilla?

Oki


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Re: Mozilla & Adobe's SVG viewer

[Eric G. Miller]

On Thu, Feb 20, 2003 at 08:47:12AM +0700, Oki DZ wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Yesterday I downloaded the Adobe SVG viewer plugin. Currently, I'm using 
> Sid's Mozilla snapshot. The plugin doesn't work. Question is: is it 
> really not working for mozilla-snapshot? I'm just want to make sure.

Last I knew, the Adobe plugin was only for Windows and only worked with
MS IE.  Has that changed?

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Re: can anyone recomend an application ??? ...

[Richard Hector]

On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 03:08:07PM -0500, Levi Waldron wrote:
> On February 19, 2003 12:22 pm, DvB wrote:
> > I usually set up cron jobs to remind me of recurring things (man
> > crontab). This, of course, only works if the computer is turned on when
> > the reminder time comes around, but you just mentioned "being logged
> > on."
> 
> apt-get install anachron

anacron perhaps?

Richard


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Re: Emacs and shell display

[fbrian]

> On Wednesday, February 19, 2003 12:30, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> When I run a shell in emacs  shell
>>
>> I get this garbled output...
>>
>>  [mbfurry@EULER:~$ lss
>
> If this only occurred for ls, I'd suggest telling us what "lss" is an
> alias for, however control characters (as shown by the box character)
> are even appearing in your prompt.

lss was a typo in my part.

> The control characters look like they're trying to color the prompt and
> file names.  This sort of colorization only works in some extended
> terminals such as xterm-color and rxvt.

My .profile uses colorized  options.

> Highly likely:
> Perhaps your prompt or shell is configured incorrectly to use color.
> Have a look at the values of $PS1 and $PROMPT_COMMAND.


contents of my .profile pertaining...

# If running interactively, then:
if [ "$PS1" ]; then

# don't put duplicate lines in the history. See bash(1) for more options
export HISTCONTROL=ignoredups

# enable color support of ls and also add handy aliases
eval `dircolors -b`
alias ls='ls --color=auto'
#alias dir='ls --color=auto --format=vertical'
#alias vdir='ls --color=auto --format=long'

# some more ls aliases
alias l='ls'
alias ll='ls -al'
#alias l='ls -CF'

# set a fancy prompt
PS1='\u@\h:\w\$ '

# If this is an xterm set the title to user@host:dir
case $TERM in
xterm*)
PROMPT_COMMAND='echo -ne "\033]0;${USER}@${HOSTNAME}: ${PWD}\007"'
;;
*)
;;
esac

# enable programmable completion features (you don't need to enable
# this, if it's already enabled in /etc/bash.bashrc).
#if [ -f /etc/bash_completion ]; then
#  . /etc/bash_completion
#fi
fi


> Somewhat likely:
> Perhaps your terminal type is set incorrectly.
> Have a look at the value of $TERM.

output of $env  regarding $TERM


TERM=xterm

> Less likely:
> Perhaps your locale or language settings are causing problems.
> Have a look at the value of $LOCALE and $LANG.
>
> Also:
> If you are using "ls --color", you should use "ls --color=auto" rather
> than "ls --color=always".

Done see above from contents of .profile

> Hope this helps
>
> --
> Michael Wardle
> Adacel Technologies
>


So I guess to use emacs shell capabiliteis I should not use colorized
commands???



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Re: Emacs and shell display

[fbrian]

> On Tue, Feb 18, 2003 at 08:30:31PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> When I run a shell in emacs  shell
>>
>> I get this garbled output...
>>
>>  [mbfurry@EULER:~$ lss
>>  [0m [01;34mDocuments [0m   [0mRMAIL [0m[0merrors [0m
>
>
> Don't use colors in your prompt or with ls. Alternatively: use
> M-x ansi-term
>

I tried this about the 3rd or 4th command issued the shell locked up.

Not sure why that happened???



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>
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Re: File systems -- reiser vs. ext3

[Cameron Hutchison]

Once upon a time Daniel B. said...
> Hall Stevenson wrote:
> > ...(see this page,
> > http://www.zip.au/~akpm/linux/ext3/ext3-usage.html, for full info), etc,
> > ...
> 
> Is anyone else having trouble accessing that page (unknown host)?

The host should be www.zip.com.au



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Re: how to reject all connections? [was: Re: IP's]

[Jeremy Gaddis]

>> If you needed to specify the network address of all hosts, it would take
>> the form 0.0.0.0/0.0.0.0, which I believe can be written as 0.0.0.0/0  for
>> short (please confirm this before using it).
>
> Yes, that sounds right.

ipchains also accepts 0/0.  I haven't used iptables,
but I assume it would also support this format.

j.

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Re: new kernel, new problems

[Russell Shaw]

Simon Tod wrote:


Thanks. Got the cpu speed bit solved.

Looking through the PCMCIA HowTo I've checked to see
that /etc/pcmica/config, /etc/default/pcmcia and
/etc/init.d/pcmica are the same under both kernels.

My new kernel is missing the line

serial_cs   4384   0  (unused)

from lsmod.
 


Try:
depmod
modprobe -a \*

If that fixes the problem, maybe you should add
the missing modules to /etc/modules.
Did you do "make modules", "make modules_install"
when doing the kernel?


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Re: fsck finding thousands of errors

[Russell Shaw]

Leo Spalteholz wrote:


On February 19, 2003 02:39 pm, Daniel B. wrote:
 

Levi Waldron wrote:
   

On February 13, 2003 07:28 pm, Daniel Barclay wrote:
 

...
Are you using DMA?
   

...  I didn't do anything outside of a
normal  stock installation to turn DMA support on or off.
 

The Linux kernel and some IDE controllers don't work together, and
can cause several filesystem corruption.

You probably want to turn DMA off ("hdparm -d0 ...") until you can
confirm that this is not your problem.
   


Do you know if support for any IDE controllers was dropped in 2.4 vs 
2.2?  I can run kernel 2.2 fine on my server but when I tried to 
update to 2.4 (standard debian kernel image) it gave me a whole 
crapload of fsck errors on boot.  Booting kernel 2.2 I could after 
much pain fix most of them.  So it seems that something in 2.4 is 
corrupting my filesystem..  I can't remember the exact version I 
tried and don't really want to try again but it was 2.4.16 or 17.  
How could I find out what IDE controller I have and whether it's 
supported?  I have some crappy no name board in that server.
 


The 2.4 kernel may have more or different options set compared to the 
2.2 kernel.
You should review the 2.4 kernel config settings then recompile.


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Re: Group ID

[Russell Shaw]

Michael Wardle wrote:


On Thursday, February 20, 2003 08:14, Russell Shaw wrote:
 

Colin Watson wrote:
   

On Thu, Feb 20, 2003 at 03:04:25AM +1100, Russell Shaw wrote:
 

If i had to regenerate a config file that a program uses, is it
possible to detect what GID the program uses if it is set from
within the program?
   

Any particular reason it can't just be root:root -rw-r--r-- (if it's
in /etc) or owned by you (if it's in your home directory)? That's
what most configuration files are.
 

I set them all to my own user:group, but mozilla seems to have
some 'stuck' settings. I found a useful command is:
 ps -eo pid,user,euser,fuser,group,egroup,fgroup,cmd
   


Ah!  So you're trying to set the correct permissions on the Mozilla 
configuration files!

The first thing to learn is it's best not to change permissions on files 
you didn't create. ;-)

I just migrated to debian from the windoze box which had mozilla on it. I
copied the profiles and news/mail directories from the windoze box. I set
the ownership of everything to my own. I hate the email composer editor in
the linux version of mozilla. I can't set it to keep using a fixed width 
font.
Anyway, the group linux.debian always shows it has 6 unread messages 
even after
i've read everyting in it. A few other groups do that too. Maybe it's 
mozilla bugs.


Why not start a new Mozilla session with "mozilla -ProfileManager", 
create a new profile, and compare permissions?

I'm thinking of setting up a *real* email system without mozilla.



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Re: svg to eps

[Oki DZ]

Sorry, Squiggle has a print menu that, naturally, can print the 
displayed image to a ps file.

Oki


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Mozilla & Adobe's SVG viewer

[Oki DZ]

Hi,

Yesterday I downloaded the Adobe SVG viewer plugin. Currently, I'm using 
Sid's Mozilla snapshot. The plugin doesn't work. Question is: is it 
really not working for mozilla-snapshot? I'm just want to make sure.

Thanks in advance,
Oki


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Re: [HELP] keyboard dont work with netbeans

[Shri Shrikumar]

Hi,

Some java Runtime's have a problem with the numlock key being on - try
switching that off.


HTH,


Shri

On Wed, 2003-02-19 at 15:07, Gilberto Garcia Jr. wrote:
> I installed netbeans, and other softwares that use netbeans as their basis
> (sun one studio, forte for java) and all of it kills my keyboard.
> 
> Can someone help me?
> 
> 
> thanks
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svg to eps

[Oki DZ]

Hi,

I'd like to insert svg images into a LaTeX document. Currently, I use
Squiggle to export the images into jpeg files. By jpegtopnm test.jpeg |
pnmtops -rle -dpi 300 > test.eps, I can get the
eps file. Unfortunately, the process loses the 'vectorish' information;
meaning, the resulting images can't be shrinked/enlarged. Question is:
is there any way I could get direct conversion from svg to eps?

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Re: can anyone recomend an application ??? ...

[Jason Bleazard]

On Wed, 19 Feb 2003 12:22:12 DvB wrote:


I usually set up cron jobs to remind me of recurring things (man
crontab). This, of course, only works if the computer is turned on when
the reminder time comes around, but you just mentioned "being logged
on."


Or you could have it send you an e-mail.


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unusual log entry(0.0.0.0 connecting to me?)

[nate]

saw this in my log report this morning...

Feb 19 02:55:28 penguin postfix/smtp[9542]: warning: host
blackhole.go-fishing.co.uk[0.0.0.0] greeted me with my own hostname
penguin.linuxpowered.net
Feb 19 02:55:28 penguin postfix/smtp[9542]: warning: host
blackhole.go-fishing.co.uk[0.0.0.0] replied to HELO/EHLO with my own
hostname
penguin.linuxpowered.net

perhaps it's another host that has forward resolution of
blackhole.go-fishing.co.uk and postfix reversed it showing
0.0.0.0 ??

very odd.

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Issue mounting NFS directory

[Ian Melnick]

Hello, all

I have a couple of computers linked through NIS/NFS, using the
automounter for mounting home directories. The power failed this
afternoon, but all the computers are fine except for one. One computer
cannot properly mount the exported home directories. The automounter
does not error, however, when logging in as a user, the home directory
is not available for that user. When you cd into /home and try cd'ing
into someone's directory, it's not found. So I tried manually mounting
the /home directory from the nfs server, and the problematic computer
chokes and says that it couldn't mount the directory because of
"Permission denied by server". This can't be the case because the nfs
server accounts for all computers in the subnet - and it was working
fine prior to the power failure.

On the server when I do anything that involves the nfs tools, I get
this: "stud:/home: Invalid argument", where stud is the client that is
having trouble mounting the home directory. I have tried unexporting all
stuff, restarting the nfs-kernel-server, rebooting both computers;
nothing seems to work. And yet, all the other computers on the subnet
have absolutely no problem.

What does this "invalid argument" on the server mean?
Why does stud report that the server is denying it access when it
shouldn't be?

Thanks
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Re: File systems -- reiser vs. ext3

[Jorge Santos]

Hall Stevenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> * Daniel B. ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030218 21:25]:
> > Paul Johnson wrote:
> > > ...
> > > My pick of ext3 was the fact that all the tools that work with ext2
> > > work just as readily with ext3.  I was also able to convert within a
> > > few minutes from ext2 on the command line.
> > 
> > What do you use to convert?
> 
> If you've got the right software, i.e. a kernel that supports ext3,
> up-to-date util-linux package (see this page,
> http://www.zip.au/~akpm/linux/ext3/ext3-usage.html, for full info), etc,
> etc, all it takes is
> 
> tune2fs -j /dev/hdXX 
> 
> 


You must also change the pertinent fields in fstab from ext2 to ext3.

And you may also want to change how often disk are checked (both in
terms of mounts and time).

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Re: can anyone recomend an application ??? ...

[Nick Hastings]

Hi,

* Dave Selby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [030220 08:52]:
> I need an application to remind me when certain events are due, ie wifes 
> birthday etc !!, 
> 
> I have tried korganiser, which has an alarm facility to flash a warning on 
> the screen. This is AOK if the system is up and I am logged on as that user 
> at the time of the alarm. When I log on later, no alarm.
> 
> I need an application that will warn me when an event is comming up, and if I 
> am not logged at the the time of this pre-set alarm, it will remember the 
> alarm and alert me as soon as I do log in.
> 
> I have also looked at remind, but I could do with a GUI, and I have looked at 
> gkrellm with the reminder plugin, ... I dont need all that info !!
> 
> Any suggestions ?

I used to find that ical was really good, except it suffered same
problem you describe above regarding logged in.

I now use gnomecal[1]. I think the coolest features of this program are:

- Can email you reminders as well as flash them on the screen
  -> prefect if you aren't logged in.

- Very flexible for setting up repeating events.

Cheers,

Nick.

[1] apt-get install gnome-pim
Unstable, version 1.4.9-1

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Re:Problem with X86Config

[intrance]

First of all you have to load every time you boot the module of 
nvidia.If you don't want to do this every time you write the name of the 
module in the /etc/modules.After you install the nvidia_kernel and the 
nvidia_GLX  the system does load this modules every time you boot.
Second you must find in the /etc/X11/XF86Config the  place that loads 
the X the nvidia module.It has the name nv and you will change it to 
nvidia.The second part you will do it afteryou configure the X by the 
XF86config.Thats all for the moment.Good luck


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Re: cdrecord image

[Michael Wardle]

On Thursday, February 20, 2003 10:07, Curtis Vaughan wrote:
> In order to write files to a burner I issue the following command:
> mkisofs -R -J /directory/with/files | cdrecord dev=0,0,0 -v -
>
> However, I can't figure out how to issue the command to write an *iso
> image to a writable CD. Can anyone help me?

You could always read the man pages for mkisofs and cdrecord. :-P

To create a CD image using mkisofs, add the -o option
(example: mkisofs -R -J -o cdimage.iso /directory)

To write a CD image using cdrecord, just specify the file name
(example: cdrecord -dev=0,0,0 -v- cdimage.iso)

I'm not too sure how reliable it is to use a pipe between the two; I 
would be worried that using a pipe would make a buffer underrun more 
likely.

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Re: cdrecord image

[Michael Heironimus]

On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 03:07:47PM -0800, Curtis Vaughan wrote:
> In order to write files to a burner I issue the following command:
> mkisofs -R -J /directory/with/files | cdrecord dev=0,0,0 -v -
> 
> However, I can't figure out how to issue the command to write an *iso 
> image to a writable CD. Can anyone help me?

cdrecord dev=0,0,0 -v file.iso

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Re: pcmcia + apm = no suspend

[Tom Allison]

nate wrote:

Tom Allison said:



I have an IBM A21m, if it matters.



I have a thinkpad T20, and suspend works fine on it with both
network and power connected.

Not sure how your trying to suspend(I haven't read the thread), but
what I do is su to root and issue a apm -s



I use the buttons.  But the apm -s has the same effects.


works everytime, and resume works too. only drawback is that the
Xvideo extension is hosed when I resume, so unless I restart X,
X will crash when Xvideo is accessed(sofar only tested with xine).
At least once X totally froze the console when trying xvideo after
resuming, most of the time X exits cleanly.


Xvideo is never hosed for me, when I can get it to suspend/hibernate.

But I use wireless nics.  Not sure if that's any difference.  But the build 
in eepro100 never had a problem.  I think it's just the pcmcia card.

I get a funny "boop" sound when it's mad at me.

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OpenOffice - critical crash

[Tom Allison]

I just ran into a problem with a file on my disk.

I was writing it up from scratch, but now if I try to open it, X-Server 
crashes and I have to login again.

I didn't think such problems were possible.

Has anyone else seen this?
Any suggestions on what to do?

I can open it one another machine, but not this one.

They were but updated to testing this morning.
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mutt compressed folders support ???

[Michael D. Schleif]

[1] Is mutt in stable (v1.4i) ``compiled with compressed folders support
(by running the configure script with the --enable-compressed flag)''?

[2] How does this work?  I see these:
open-hook \\.gz$ "gzip -cd %f > %t"
close-hook \\.gz$ "gzip -c %t > %f"
append-hook \\.gz$ "gzip -c %t >> %f"

[3] Does this work only with gzip'd mbox mail folders?

[4] Can this be made to work with maildir contents in TGZ format?

I am trying to build a model that works and is functional.  Whatever
suggestions I get will be quickly tested.

What do you think?

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Re: can anyone recomend an application ??? ...

[DvB]

Nori Heikkinen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> on Wed, 19 Feb 2003 02:36:29PM -0600, DvB insinuated:
> 
> 0 12 */1 * * if [ birthday ]; then birthday | mutt  -i - -s
> birthday
> 
> so if there's any output from the birthday program, it will be sent to
> you every day at high noon.
> 

That might actually be a good thing to try. I do also ssh every now and
then (like now, to check my mail), so I guess I would see at least some
of the messages at login.


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Re: *tex: personal ls-R being owned by root

[Colin Watson]

On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 07:44:20PM +0100, martin f krafft wrote:
> What disturbs me is that
> 
> fishbowl:~> ls -l ~/etc/texmf/ls-R
> -rw---1 root root 1147 2003-02-09 23:25 ls-R
> 
> it is owned by root:root. What the heck? What's root doing in my
> homedirectory? root should have no idea about ~/etc/texmf, and
> I surely can't create files owned by root. What the heck is going on?
> Anyone?

Something's clearly setuid root. Figure out what it is and file a bug
for not dropping privileges appropriately.

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Re: nparted? gzigzag?

[Colin Watson]

On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 10:27:50PM +0100, martin f krafft wrote:
> what happened to those two packages?

http://ftp-master.debian.org/removals.txt is always the first point of
reference here:


NB: The 'Reason' is an abbreviation, check any referenced bugs for more
details.

Keys:

  o ROM == Request Of Maintainer
  [...]

=
[Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 13:52:14 -0500] [ftpmaster: Ryan Murray]
Removed the following packages from unstable:

   gzigzag |0.6.2-2 | source, all
Closed bugs: 137372

--- Reason ---
ROM; renaming for legal reasons

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=
[Date: Mon,  3 Feb 2003 12:24:33 -0500] [ftpmaster: James Troup]
Removed the following packages from unstable:

   nparted |  0.1-7 | m68k, mipsel
   nparted |  0.1-8 | source, alpha, arm, hppa, i386, ia64, mips, powerpc, s
390, sparc
Closed bugs: 179468

--- Reason ---
ROM; orphaned upstream, buggy.
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Re: Can't launch Tuxracer since dist-upgrade a while back

[Colin Watson]

On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 11:16:57AM -0800, nate wrote:
> try doin a
> 
> dpkg -L tuxracer
> 
> (or whatever the package name is)
> 
> to see where the file(s) may be located at, odd that it wouldn't be in
> the PATH though.

Games are often in /usr/games, including tuxracer (for the last two and
a half years - it's not a recent change). It's possible that that fell
out of your $PATH somehow.

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Mozilla and Enigmail

[will]

Has anyone had success with getting enigmail (enigmail.mozdev.org) and mozilla 
working?  I have had enigmail working on RedHat and Mandrake fairly successfully 
(ie. stable) but whenever I try to decrypt a message using the enigmail/mozilla, 
mozilla exists with no error messages.  This is a pain.  I just wondered if 
anyone had solved this problem, or had experienced it, or if I should submit a 
bug report.

I am using stable but have installed the testing version of gpg to no avail.

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Re: can anyone recomend an application ??? ...

[Paul M Foster]

On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 01:30:55PM +, Dave Selby wrote:

> I need an application to remind me when certain events are due, ie wifes
> birthday etc !!,
> 
> I have tried korganiser, which has an alarm facility to flash a warning on
> the screen. This is AOK if the system is up and I am logged on as that user
> at the time of the alarm. When I log on later, no alarm.
> 
> I need an application that will warn me when an event is comming up, and if I
> am not logged at the the time of this pre-set alarm, it will remember the
> alarm and alert me as soon as I do log in.
> 
> I have also looked at remind, but I could do with a GUI, and I have looked at
> gkrellm with the reminder plugin, ... I dont need all that info !!

The remind program comes with a GUI app-- tkremind.

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Re: fsck finding thousands of errors

[Leo Spalteholz]

On February 19, 2003 02:39 pm, Daniel B. wrote:
> Levi Waldron wrote:
> > On February 13, 2003 07:28 pm, Daniel Barclay wrote:
> > >...
> > > Are you using DMA?
> >
> > ...  I didn't do anything outside of a
> > normal  stock installation to turn DMA support on or off.
>
> The Linux kernel and some IDE controllers don't work together, and
> can cause several filesystem corruption.
>
> You probably want to turn DMA off ("hdparm -d0 ...") until you can
> confirm that this is not your problem.

Do you know if support for any IDE controllers was dropped in 2.4 vs 
2.2?  I can run kernel 2.2 fine on my server but when I tried to 
update to 2.4 (standard debian kernel image) it gave me a whole 
crapload of fsck errors on boot.  Booting kernel 2.2 I could after 
much pain fix most of them.  So it seems that something in 2.4 is 
corrupting my filesystem..  I can't remember the exact version I 
tried and don't really want to try again but it was 2.4.16 or 17.  
How could I find out what IDE controller I have and whether it's 
supported?  I have some crappy no name board in that server.

Thanks
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cdrecord image

[Curtis Vaughan]

In order to write files to a burner I issue the following command:
mkisofs -R -J /directory/with/files | cdrecord dev=0,0,0 -v -

However, I can't figure out how to issue the command to write an *iso 
image to a writable CD. Can anyone help me?

Curtis Vaughan
North Pacific Corporation

Tel: (425) 822-1001
Mobile: (206) 423-6979

WashTech (CWA Local 37083)
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Re: packages with configuration prompt twice

[Joey Hess]

Daniel B. wrote:
> * debconf/showold: true

This is your problem. You should dpkg-reconfigure debconf and turn it
off. (or 'echo set debconf/showold false | debconf-communicate')

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RE: new kernel, new problems

[Simon Tod]

Thanks. Got the cpu speed bit solved.

Looking through the PCMCIA HowTo I've checked to see
that /etc/pcmica/config, /etc/default/pcmcia and
/etc/init.d/pcmica are the same under both kernels.

My new kernel is missing the line

serial_cs   4384   0  (unused)

from lsmod.

Under the kernel 2.4.20-686 the output of
/proc/devices is

Character devices:
  1 mem
  2 pty/m%d
  3 pty/s%d
  4 tts/%d
  5 cua/%d
  7 vcs
 10 misc
 13 input
 14 sound
 29 fb
128 ptm
136 pts/%d
162 raw

Block devices:
  1 ramdisk
  3 ide0

while under 2.4.19 it's

Character devices:
  1 mem
  2 pty
  3 ttyp
  4 ttyS
  5 cua
  7 vcs
 10 misc
 14 sound
 29 fb
108 ppp
128 ptm
136 pts
162 raw
180 usb
203 cpu/cpuid
226 drm
254 pcmcia

Block devices:
  2 fd
  3 ide0
  7 loop
 43 nbd

There seem to be a whole bunch of devices missing in
the new kernel.

An attempt to start serial_cs with modprobe illicited
the response

/lib/modules/2.4.20-686/kernel/drivers/pcmcia/ds.o:
insmod
/lib/modules/2.4.20-686/kernel/drivers/pcmcia/ds.o
failed
/lib/modules/2.4.20-686/kernel/drivers/pcmcia/ds.o:
insmod serial_cs failed
Hint: insmod errors can be caused by incorrect module
parameters, including invalid IO or IRQ parameters.
  You may find more information in syslog or the
output from dmesg

while insmod serial_cs gave me

Using
/lib/modules/2.4.20-686/kernel/drivers/char/pcmcia/serial_cs.o
/lib/modules/2.4.20-686/kernel/drivers/char/pcmcia/serial_cs.o:
unresolved symbol register_pccard_driver_R583d4ed2
/lib/modules/2.4.20-686/kernel/drivers/char/pcmcia/serial_cs.o:
unresolved symbol unregister_pccard_driver_Rdb348cd2

So now I'm stumped. Where do I go from here to get the
pcmcia modem up and running? 

 --- "Narins, Josh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >
I have a 1000 Mhz that was originally recognized as
> 667Mhz
> 
> Look for these files
> 
> > /proc/cpufreq
> > /proc/sys/cpu/0/{speed|speed-min|speed-max}
> 
> if you have those, all you have to do is 
> 
> > cat /proc/sys/cpu/0/speed-max >
> /proc/sys/cpu/0/speed
> 
> check the results with 
> 
> > cat /proc/cpufreq
> 
> If you have multiple processors, you should find
> them under
> /proc/sys/cpu/[0-9]+
> 
> by the way, you can also cat speed, speed-min and
> speed-max
> 
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Simon Tod [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 3:16 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: new kernel, new problems
> > 
> > 
> > Having installed kernel-image-2.4.20-686 and
> > kernel-pcmcia-modules-2.4.20-686 to rid myself of
> a
> > couple of problems I was having with my old kernel
> > (2.4.19), I've now picked up a couple of new
> problems.
> > 
> > 1) A failure to get the pcmcia modem running - I
> > notice there is a pcmcia entry in /proc/devices
> under
> > the old kernel but not the new one. How can I
> track
> > down the relavent info in the old kernel that I
> can
> > use in the new one to the modem up again?
> > 
> > 2) Reading /var/log/dmesg when booting under the
> new
> > kernel, it claims to detect a 700 MHz processor
> while
> > the old kernel gets it right at 1000 MHz. WTF?
> > 
> > Thanks in advance.
> >  
> > 
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Re: can anyone recomend an application ??? ...

[Nori Heikkinen]

on Wed, 19 Feb 2003 02:36:29PM -0600, DvB insinuated:
> Levi Waldron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > On February 19, 2003 12:22 pm, DvB wrote:
[...]
> > I like the sounds of the birthday app!
> 
> Problem with the birthday app (for me, anyway) is that it only
> appears to give reminders when you log in, which I rarely do. I
> usually leave my computer running until there's a power outage or I
> move:
> 
> $ uptime 14:34:32 up 164 days,  2:48,  5 users,  load average: 0.29,
> 0.44, 0.43

right, so do i (that is, when it will boot at all).  difference is, i
do a lot of remote logins, so i see it all the time.  but my point
was, you can customize it for your usage.  you could have a cron job:

0 12 */1 * * if [ birthday ]; then birthday | mutt  -i - -s
birthday

so if there's any output from the birthday program, it will be sent to
you every day at high noon.

this is why i love linux, and why i switched -- the ability to do make
your computer do whatever you want it to, and however you want it to
do it.  :)

hth,



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Re: fsck finding thousands of errors

[Daniel B.]

Levi Waldron wrote:
> 
> On February 13, 2003 07:28 pm, Daniel Barclay wrote:
> >...
> > Are you using DMA?
> 
> ...  I didn't do anything outside of a
> normal  stock installation to turn DMA support on or off.

The Linux kernel and some IDE controllers don't work together, and
can cause several filesystem corruption.

You probably want to turn DMA off ("hdparm -d0 ...") until you can
confirm that this is not your problem.


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Re: Group ID

[Michael Wardle]

On Thursday, February 20, 2003 08:14, Russell Shaw wrote:
> Colin Watson wrote:
> >On Thu, Feb 20, 2003 at 03:04:25AM +1100, Russell Shaw wrote:
> >>If i had to regenerate a config file that a program uses, is it
> >> possible to detect what GID the program uses if it is set from
> >> within the program?
> >
> >Any particular reason it can't just be root:root -rw-r--r-- (if it's
> > in /etc) or owned by you (if it's in your home directory)? That's
> > what most configuration files are.
>
> I set them all to my own user:group, but mozilla seems to have
> some 'stuck' settings. I found a useful command is:
>   ps -eo pid,user,euser,fuser,group,egroup,fgroup,cmd

Ah!  So you're trying to set the correct permissions on the Mozilla 
configuration files!

The first thing to learn is it's best not to change permissions on files 
you didn't create. ;-)

Why not start a new Mozilla session with "mozilla -ProfileManager", 
create a new profile, and compare permissions?

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Re: Wierd XEmacs problem.

[Alan Shutko]

Jorge Santos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I have a problem here, on X Window C-/ works just fine as undo, but in
> the console it just inserts an /, the funny thing is this, when I type
> C-h k C-/ I get:

I have a feeling that C-/ can't be represented in ASCII... anyone
remember the rules, offhand?

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Re: packages with configuration prompt twice

[Daniel B.]

Joey Hess wrote:
> 
> Daniel B. wrote:
> > All.  (Everything that I've installed recently and that has interactive
> > configuration has prompted twice.)
> 
> What does 'debconf-show debconf' say?


# debconf-show debconf
* debconf/priority: low
* debconf/frontend: Dialog
* debconf/showold: true
#




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Re: mailman permissions weirdness.

[martin f krafft]

also sprach Vineet Kumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003.02.19.1850 +0100]:
> Yep, you're exactly right.  IIRC, all of the CGI binaries in
> /usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin are 2755 root:list.

wow, so they are... thanks, that clears it all up.

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what happened to those two packages?

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Re: LPI Certification (revisited)

[Kenneth Dombrowski]

Keith O'Connell wrote:

Hi,


Hi

I just took part one (101) out of curiosity when they gave the exam for 
free at the recent linux world. Part one isn't good for anything by 
itself, you need to complete one + two for the basic level of 
certification, but I'm still pretty much a newbie in a lot of areas & I 
did it kind of last-minute without a lot of time to study. I did manage 
to scrape by.

following on from a recent thread, I was wondering if someone could
answer a few general questions about the LPI exams.

1: is the exam computer based?
	(ie: pick one or more from five, or is it free text


it's mostly multiple choice with a couple fill-in-the-blank answers. 
Their site does say "computer-based tests"..

2: Is the a "hands-on" component to the test


s/the/there/?

no.


3: How many questions


I don't remember, 150-200 I'd guess


4: How long is the test


They don't try to rush you, I think they give you a few hours. It took 
me about an hour and a half

5: Can you go back and do questions you passed over?
   Can you correct answers if you revisit and change your mind?


Yes, it's just a booklet + an answer sheet + a pencil type of exam.


It wasn't hard, but the questions have a sort of trivia quality in that 
you either know the answer or you don't. I thought it did a good job 
focusing on general knowledge for all aspects of running linux in a 
non-distro-specific way, & I wasn't surprised by the results at all -- 
that is, my scores reflected my own assessment of my skills. The scores 
come back in these sections:

Hardware & Architecture
Linux Installation & Package Management
GNU & Unix Commands
Devices, Linux Filesystems, Filesystem Hierarchy Standard
X

I think I got all the rpm questions wrong.. & I know very little about 
hardware & architecture so I scored appropriately there.. & I expected 
to do better with the command line than x configuration, which I did

Aside from my personal experience, their site will probably answer your 
questions better than I can

http://lpi.org/c-process.html
http://www.lpi.org/faq.html




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Wierd readline/inputrc problem.

[Jorge Santos]

I have a problem with programs that use libreadline, the thing is I
want to bind C-/ to undo, as in XEmacs, so I created the following
.inputrc in my home:

# This file controls the behaviour of line input editing for
# programs that use the GNU Readline library.  Existing
# programs include FTP, Bash, and GDB.
#
# You can re-read the inputrc file with C-x C-r.
# Lines beginning with '#' are comments.
#
# First, include any systemwide bindings and variable
# assignments from /etc/inputrc
# $include /etc/inputrc

#
# Set various bindings for emacs mode.

set editing-mode emacs

$if mode=emacs

Control-w: dump-functions
Control-/: undo
#"\C-/": undo

$endif



I want to use this binding on pgsql and zsh, well I think zsh doesn't
really use libreadline, and with pgsql when I type C-w (see above) I
get the following:

undo can be found on "\C-o", "\C-x\C-u", "\C-_".
 ^^

The C-o binding didn't appear before creating my .inputrc, so it
appears to have been introduced by the "Control-/: undo" entry in
~/.inputrc.


What is going on here?!


Also, in bash the corresponding line is:

undo can be found on "\C-x\C-u", "\C-_".

so here, the binding is not seen at all.

Any help with this puzzling affair will be greatly appreciated.


TIA

Jorge Santos


P.S.

/etc/inputrc follows:

# /etc/inputrc - global inputrc for libreadline
# See readline(3readline) and `info rluserman' for more information.

# Be 8 bit clean.
set input-meta on
set output-meta on

# To allow the use of 8bit-characters like the german umlauts, comment out
# the line below. However this makes the meta key not work as a meta key,
# which is annoying to those which don't need to type in 8-bit characters.

# set convert-meta off


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Wierd XEmacs problem.

[Jorge Santos]

I have a problem here, on X Window C-/ works just fine as undo, but in
the console it just inserts an /, the funny thing is this, when I type
C-h k C-/ I get:



/ runs `self-insert-command'
   
  
`self-insert-command' is an interactive built-in function
(self-insert-command COUNT)
   
  
Documentation:
Insert the character you type.
Whichever character you type to run this command is inserted.
If a prefix arg COUNT is specified, the character is inserted COUNT times.




But when I type C-h w undo I get:


undo is on undo, f2, C-/, C-_




So, what gives? 




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Re: can anyone recomend an application ??? ...

[DvB]

Levi Waldron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On February 19, 2003 12:22 pm, DvB wrote:
> > I usually set up cron jobs to remind me of recurring things (man
> > crontab). This, of course, only works if the computer is turned on when
> > the reminder time comes around, but you just mentioned "being logged
> > on."
> 
> apt-get install anachron
> 
> the anachron daemon tries to make sure you don't miss cron jobs on machines 
> that aren't on all the time.  Sounds like not quite what Dave is looking for 
> though.  I like the sounds of the birthday app!
> 


Problem with the birthday app (for me, anyway) is that it only appears
to give reminders when you log in, which I rarely do. I usually leave my
computer running until there's a power outage or I move:

$ uptime
 14:34:32 up 164 days,  2:48,  5 users,  load average: 0.29, 0.44, 0.43

XFree was also running most of that time, except when I switched to
Gnome from Enlightenment :-)


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Re: Problem with X86Config

[Kent West]

Cory Pender wrote:


I've been trying to get into xstart



I assume you mean "startx".


for the past 2 days now, but when I go in the X86Config Log is telling 
me I have problems with the resolution telling me that I have 
insuffiencent memory. I edited XF86Config in /etc/X11


Rather than editing the file directly, try "dpkg-reconfigure 
xserver-xfree86". I believe you'll need the nv driver for the Nvidia 
card, but having never had one, I'm not sure.

and the only way into the xstart is if I knock my color depth down to 
4.. Anything higher and only 1/20th of the screen can be seen, or it 
doesn't start up at all. I've done everything even tried swaping video 
cards.. What's wrong with this setup :( ..

This sounds like a driver issue. Again, try "dpkg-reconfigure 
xserver-xfree86".

 
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Re: Safety of Upgrading Unstable

[Brian Nelson]

Hall Stevenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> At 10:56 PM 2/18/2003 -0500, Mark wrote:
>> I installed unstable about a month ago and have had nothing but good
>> times.  I've been following debian-devel and debian-user looking for
>> problems people have had with upgrading unstable and haven't seen that
>> many (a few regarding kde / libfam issues).  But, I'm curious to know
>> how safe/dangerous it is to just say 'apt-get upgrade' presently.
>
> Do an 'apt-get -u upgrade' and it will show you what's going to be
> installed, removed, upgraded, and so on. 

No, it'll only show what's going to be upgraded.  An 'apt-get upgrade'
will only ever upgrade packages; it won't try to install or remove
anything.  You must be thinking of 'apt-get dist-upgrade'.

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Re: can anyone recomend an application ??? ...

[Levi Waldron]

On February 19, 2003 12:22 pm, DvB wrote:
> I usually set up cron jobs to remind me of recurring things (man
> crontab). This, of course, only works if the computer is turned on when
> the reminder time comes around, but you just mentioned "being logged
> on."

apt-get install anachron

the anachron daemon tries to make sure you don't miss cron jobs on machines 
that aren't on all the time.  Sounds like not quite what Dave is looking for 
though.  I like the sounds of the birthday app!


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Re: Best WWW browser..

[p]

On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 11:00:32AM +1300, Haralambos Geortgilakis wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Yall & Kevin,
> 
> I am on Netscape 7.0.1 & like it very much.
> 
> There is no .deb file, but the installer rocks.
> 
> 
>ftp://ftp.netscape.com/pub/netscape7/english/7.01/unix/linux22/sea/netscape-i686-pc-linux-gnu-sea.tar.gz
> 
> Happy surfing,
> 
> Greek Geek :-)
> 
>

> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> >Hi, I'm using Debian 3.0r1 stable (woody) and am currently using Galon for
> >web-surfing. However, it seems to break on some sites - they seem to be
> >moaning about Frames support mostly.
> >
> >Anyway, which browser should I use under gnome to get the most pages
> >viewed?
> >
> >I'd prefer a .deb package from stable but if not, what do people think of
> >the Opera 7 that recently appeared?
> >
> >http://snapshot.opera.com/unix/353-20030214-P1/
> >
> >Thanks for your help,
> >Kevin
> >
> >--
> >
> 

//

...and having the ability to turn
off the pop-ups advertising is a 
great feature in 7.01.

b.

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Re: Safety of Upgrading Unstable

[Brian Nelson]

David Z Maze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>> I've been following debian-devel and debian-user looking for
>> problems people have had with upgrading unstable and haven't seen that
>> many (a few regarding kde / libfam issues).
>
> This is probably the best way to find out if something is broken in
> unstable.  debian-devel-announce is also a good list to read (and is
> far lower traffic).  And of course, if you find something broken, file
> a bug report!  (http://bugs.debian.org/)

Also, the topic of #debian-devel on irc.freenode.net will usually list
any major breakage as soon as it's discovered.  You'll probably find it
there first, because it usually takes a little time to trickle down into
the mailing lists.

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Re: Where does "dpkg -l" reads package info?

[Travis Crump]

David Z Maze wrote:

"Yildiz, Murat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:


and run apt-setup and let read all 8 cd's
but it seems it doesn't write available and status files again.



The canonical way to do this is to run 'apt-get update', hit 'u' in
aptitude, or select "update" from dselect's main menu.  What problem
are you really having?




'apt-get update' won't update /var/lib/dpkg/available.  As far as I know 
only 'dselect update' does.  Since random programs such as 
grep-available rely on /var/lib/dpkg/available being kept up to date, it 
is generally a good idea to always use 'dselect update' instead of 
'apt-get update'.  Why the two aren't equivalent is beyond me...


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Re: VMWare package

[Alex Malinovich]

On Wed, 2003-02-19 at 06:38, Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 18, 2003 at 02:07:35PM -0500, Gregory Seidman wrote:
> > } With the correct patch, yes? Without the patch pointed to here, VMware
> > } refuses to recompile its modules.
> > 
> > Er, no. I am running VMWare 3.2, unpatched, on a 2.4.20 kernel. It works
> > just fine, and the vmware-config.pl compiled its modules happily. It may or
> > may not be relevant that both the kernel and the modules are compiled with
> > gcc 3.2. I am running a testing/unstable mix.
> 
> VMWare modules are a little picky.  From my experiance, all of the
> following must be true for the modules to compile right in
> vmware-config.pl
> 
> Before starting--
> * You must be running the kernel you want to compile for.
> * You must be using the same version of gcc for VMWare as you did the
>   kernel.
> * You must have kernel headers for the kernel you're running.

I'm not sure what it was that caused it, but when my roommate first
tried installing VMWare he couldn't get the network modules to compile.
He was running a pre-rolled debian 2.4.20 kernel with the appropriate
kernel headers installed as well. The first part of compilation went
fine (the "generic" vmware modules) but the network modules just
wouldn't compile. After I showed him how to roll his own kernel,
however, the compilation went just fine.

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Re: Explorer-type file manager

[Geordie Birch]

On Tue, 18 Feb 2003 11:57:09 -0500
Matthew Weier O'Phinney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> like Phoenix and Skipstone (which utilize GTK+). But I have yet to
> utilize a good *graphical* file manager that didn't come with a DE; for
> the most part, I've been doing without one, but I can also see your
> reasons for wanting one (making the machine easier for others to use).

apt-cache show worker

Geordie.


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Re: postfix problem

[Nathan E Norman]

On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 05:02:05PM +, Colin Watson wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 05:26:04PM +0100, Rudy Gevaert wrote:
> > On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 02:07:40PM +, Colin Watson wrote:
> > > To me, your description sounds as if the problem is with the editor
> > > (perhaps nvi), not postfix ...
> > 
> > Ah you are right.  I thought it was postfix because I got messages.
> > Do you know where I should look for those vi recover files?
> 
> As I remember, the mail tells you where to find them. It's somewhere
> like /var/tmp/vi.recover.

IIRC, root can recover any pending revoery files.  Just type "vi -r"
to get a list.  "vi -r ", ":wq" it somewhere (like /tmp) and
you're done.

For some people this scenario may be easier than chasing down the
actual file.

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Re: Best WWW browser..

[Karsten M. Self]

on Tue, Feb 18, 2003 at 10:10:14AM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Hi, I'm using Debian 3.0r1 stable (woody) and am currently using Galon for
> web-surfing. However, it seems to break on some sites - they seem to be
> moaning about Frames support mostly.

Shouldn't happen.

Check that you're up to date with Galeon, if so, file a bug.

> Anyway, which browser should I use under gnome to get the most pages
> viewed?

Galeon's among the best there is.

http://twiki.iwethey.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/NixBrowsers

(Or see sig.  Funny, as I use 'signify' to randomly select sigs from a
rather large set of possibilities).

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Re: Can't launch Tuxracer since dist-upgrade a while back

[nate]

David Bruce said:
> I've been happily running Sid on two desktops for over a year.  I recently
>  dist-upgraded my home machine when KDE 3.1 started filtering into stable.
>  I  didn't remove KDE 2.2 beforehand, if it matters.  After the upgrade,
> KDE  seems to be fine (lost KMail like everyone else), but I have a
> strange  problem - I can't launch Tuxracer or Quake2.  If I try from
> Konsole as either  user or root, bash tells me "command not found".  I
> tried removing and  reinstalling Tuxracer but still cannot launch it -
> still get "command not  found".   I don't know if it is a coincidence that
> they are both 3D games.

try doin a

dpkg -L tuxracer

(or whatever the package name is)

to see where the file(s) may be located at, odd that it wouldn't be in
the PATH though.

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Re: XFree 4.2.1-5 ATI Rage 128 missing symbols

[Colin Watson]

On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 06:58:49PM +0100, Jean-Marc Liotier wrote:
> Quoting Jean-Marc Liotier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > Now my question : when will a version of XFree equal or posterior to
> > 4.2.1-11  hit Sid ? Is there somewhere I can find it even before ?
> 
> I tried to have a look in incoming.debian.org but XFree was not there. Is it 
> reasonnable to install the binary package from the upstream developpers, or 
> will that severely disturb the Debian setup ?

That binary package sounds like an RPM, and in any case has a completely
different versioning scheme. Don't install it. File a bug instead (if
there isn't one there already) asking for the fix you need.

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