Re: Installation von testing

2003-09-17 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Mon, Sep 15, 2003 at 05:09:33PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Hallo zusammen!

Grüß!

This list's language is English.  You might want to look at
debian-user-german:  http://lists.debian.org/debian-user-german/

> Ich hab da mal eine Frage ungew?hnlicher Art.
> Von welcher Seite hole ich mir denn die testing version von Debian
> runter?

Install a "Woody" (stable) release.  Then upgrade to testing.

http://www.debian.org/
http://www.debian.org/distrib/

(Both pages are available in German).

I'd recommend a 'Netinst' or Jigdo installation.


> In den Manuals habe ich leider nichts finden k?nnen oder ich habe sie
> ganz einfach ?berlesen.

Read the installation instructions:

> Bitte sendet mir doch die Adresse zu unter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Danke

Bitte.


Freide.

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Re: Newbie - upgrade question

2003-09-17 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Sun, Sep 14, 2003 at 10:36:57PM -0400, Zerkani_user_list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Need help!
> 
> When I ran the security upgrade,  I get the following error  message. How do I 
> resolve this error?.
> 
> localhost:/home/zerkani# apt-get upgrade
> Reading Package Lists... Done
> Building Dependency Tree... Done
> 1 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0  not upgraded.
> 21 packages not fully installed or removed.
> Need to get 0B/3422kB of archives. After unpacking 4096B will be used.
> Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y
> debconf: unable to initialize frontend: Gnome
> debconf: (Unable to load Gnome -- is libgnome-perl installed?)
> debconf: falling back to frontend: Dialog
> (Reading database ... 27513 files and directories currently installed.)
> Preparing to replace xlibmesa3 4.1.0-16 (using 
> .../xlibmesa3_4.1.0-16woody1_i386.deb) ...
> Unpacking replacement xlibmesa3 ...
> dpkg: error processing 
> /var/cache/apt/archives/xlibmesa3_4.1.0-16woody1_i386.deb (--unpack):
>  trying to overwrite `/usr/X11R6/lib/libGLU.so.1.3', which is also in package 
> xlibmesa3-glu

You've found a bug.

There is a conflict between the packages xlibmesa3 and xlibmesa3-glu.

If both are Debian packages, and not from a third-party site: 

  - Run 'apt-get update; apt-get upgrade' and see if the problem is
fixed.

  - Run 'apt-get install reportbug', then 'querybts xlibmesa3' and see
if the bug has been reported. 

  - If you've still got a problem, file a grave bug against one or the
other indicating the conflicting file.  Paste the section above
starting from 'Unpacking replacement xlibmesa3'.

Peace.

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Re: burning a lot of coasters

2003-09-17 Thread Crispin Wellington
On Wed, 2003-09-17 at 06:10, Mark Roach wrote:
>  I'm using growisofs as a normal user, and
> this is the error I keep getting

You should definately burn as root. Only root can change processes to
soft-realtime scheduling (instead of the standard scheduling
discipline). Realtime scheduling allows the burning process to get all
the CPU it needs, regardless of what other processes are doing. I have
never made any coasters, ever, burning as root.

For background info on scheduling (this is off topic, but interesting
none the less), man 2 sched_setscheduler.

Kind Regards
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Re: Computer won't boot without video cable

2003-09-17 Thread David Fokkema
On Tue, Sep 16, 2003 at 08:09:42PM -0400, Mark Roach wrote:
> On Tue, 2003-09-16 at 16:22, John Hasler wrote:
> > Why not just pull out the video card?
> 
> Most systems will not boot if no video card is present. I imagine there
> is some guide on line on how to fool the video card into thinking a
> monitor is present using some sort of loopback adapter, possibly as
> simple as a wire from one pin to another.

Yes, that is true. I have an ASUS L5800C laptop with (I think) a broken
BIOS (update available, haven't applied it yet). X 4.3 is unable to
light up the panel when switching modes but with an external monitor,
switching to it and back to the panel again lights up the panel. I use a
15 pin male connector which I have stuffed with aluminiumfoil. Works
very well!

But anyway, the OP's problem is solved.

David

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Re: Connecting to ntl:home UK with Debian

2003-09-17 Thread Rthoreau
>Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2003 01:19:51 +0100
From: Pigeon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>A friend of mine is two network cables away from being able to install
>a firewall for his Windoze box. I shall be setting this up, using
>Debian of course.

>He has an ntl:home "broadband" (150kbps) connection via a cable modem
>whose external interface is via coax and connects to the PC either by
>ethernet or USB. The connection is configured under Windoze by means
>of an installation CD. Raw details on the nature of the connection are
>conspicuous by their absence, as is any mention of Linux.
>
>Poking through Networking in his Windoze Control Panel seems to reveal
>TCP/IP drivers for the cable modem and no mention of PPP, so it looks
>to me as if we're probably not using PPPoE. He's configured to
>"Automatically assign IP address on connection" - Windoze DHCP? All his
>DNS settings are "Disabled", so I've no idea how his DNS works.
>
>I would be quite surprised if there isn't someone on this list whose
>Debian box is connected to ntl:home UK, and I would be most grateful
>if you could let me know what kind of connection we are dealing with
>here.

>Thanks,
>-- 
>Pigeon
> snip

I use a cable modem here in the states which came with a software CD 
which I did not even use.  I just plugged the coax cable into the back 
of the cable modem, and then used an ethernet cable from that to my 
router wan port.  I also use DHCP from my ISP which has their own 
assigned DNS addresses.  

Chances are if you go to the NTL home page it might tell you the DNS IP 
address to use.  Since I have a router I just use what is auto detected 
in the config section.  Also if you use a router you can assign static 
IP addresses to your computers on your network.  Even though your ISP 
is DHCP but I am sure you are very aware of that.

My ISP does not support Linux, but I really do not have any problems 
with it working straight out of the box.  If it is a problem it usually 
is with my ISP, and involve storm damage, or server maintance.

Rthoreau


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Help Save the Arctic Refuge

2003-09-17 Thread Eric Toullec
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Help Save the Arctic Refuge

2003-09-17 Thread Eric Toullec
I just signed this very important petition to my Senators and Federal 
Representative urging them NOT to allow drilling in the Arctic National 
Wildlife Refuge, our most magnificent wildlife sanctuary.  Drilling 
would cause great harm to this wilderness area which is one of the few 
truly wild places remaining.

Please go to http://www.savearcticrefuge.org, add your name and pass 
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Or you can add your name by checking out a great cartoon animation at
http://www.savearcticrefuge.org/video

Eric Toullec

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Re: burning a lot of coasters

2003-09-17 Thread Rogier Wolff
On Tue, Sep 16, 2003 at 06:10:58PM -0400, Mark Roach wrote:
> I recently acquired a dvd+rw drive for archival of a few hundred gigs of
> document images and have been fairly disappointed with the performance
> of the device. I have gotten a total of 7 good, 4 bad dvds from the
> drive. It's a firewire device, I'm using growisofs as a normal user, and
> this is the error I keep getting
> 
> Sep 15 20:55:23 imgburner kernel: Current sr00:00: sense key Medium Error
> Sep 15 20:55:23 imgburner kernel: Additional sense indicates Write error
> Sep 15 20:55:24 imgburner kernel: Current sr00:00: sense key Medium Error
> Sep 15 20:55:24 imgburner kernel: Additional sense indicates Write error
> Sep 15 20:59:46 imgburner kernel:  I/O error: dev 0b:00, sector 64

Are you using some dvd burning software and dvd+w media? My colleagues
say that the DVD burners don't have "burnproof" when burning DVDs, so
you hsould have your DVD image "ready" at all times. We build an image
in a large file on a local disk before starting to burn it. 

Oh, and we run the burn as root because otherwise it complains about not
being able to increase its priority. 

In theory this should not be a problem if you're using DVD+RW media. In
theory

Roger. 

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Re: failed upgrade to unstable... libxrender1

2003-09-17 Thread Nick Hastings
Hi,

* Michael Kahle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [030917 13:22]:
> Hello,
> 
> I am getting an error when upgrading my distribution to unstable...
> 
> dpkg-divert: 'diversion of /usr/X11R6/lib/libXrender.so.1 to
> /usr/X11R6/lib/libXrender-1.1.so.1 by libxrender1' clashes with 'diversion
> of /usr/X11R6/lib/libXrender.so.1 to
> /usr/share/libxrender1.1/diversions/libXrender.so.1 by libxrender1.1'
> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libxrender1_0.8.2-1_i386.deb
> (--unpack):
>   subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 2
> 
> Any clues as to what I can do to force (or fix) this install of this so that
> I can move on?  apt just exists after this.

I've not seen this type of problem before, however it seems that the
pre-install script (/var/lib/dpjg/info/libxrender1.preinst) is failing
because it is trying to divert (man 8 dpkg-divert) a file to a
location that is already used.

You seem to have two versions of libxrender installed (version 1 and
1.1). Perhaps you should remove one of them. 

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Re: Which FS to use ?

2003-09-17 Thread Jacob Anawalt
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Hey guys (are there any girls on this list - hmm)
Which filesystem would you recommend for a biggish (10 gig) partition ? At
the moment I'm using Ext2fs and I really have to use something else, it's
just way to slow. So should i use Reiser or Ext3fs ? Or is there maybe
another fs I can use ?
 

In what areas of use does the Ext2 FS on your 10GB drive seem "way to 
slow"? 

Transferring a file from one folder to another?
With only one disk you're copying from disk, to MB and writing back to 
the same disk - not the speediest of disk operations normally. It would 
help to know if this partition contains all of Debian or if it is just 
one mount like /home and if the rest of Debian is on the same disk or 
another disk

Reading files off the disk?
Linux nicely pre-fetches data beyond your read request anticipating that 
you are going to need that data, thus speeding disk reads by reducing 
the need to move the head around. Severely fragmented files may not have 
their data within that read-ahead section and miss out on that potential 
performance gain. Files that are always appended to (like some tar 
files, directories that keep getting new entries, or system logs) are 
very likely to fragment. Files that are re-written get a clean slate and 
are not fragmented. Once the kernel reads something it keeps it in 
memory if possible since that is much faster. If you don't have much 
free memory, you are missing out on that gain as well. I don't know if 
the Resier FS handles fragmentation of appended files better, but any 
file system will appear to work faster on cached data if you have oodles 
of memory.

Some other situation?
Maybe the disk/controller isn't using DMA? What type of disk is it?
I haven't used much of anything outside of ext*, so I can't give an 
experiance based comment on Reiser. It's suppose to be pretty fast and 
good at handling lots of small files and directories.

The place where ext3 orders of magnitude faster than ext2 is when you 
boot up after an improper shutdown/unmount. ext3 (which is basically 
ext2 with journaling) can safely skip fsck for the most part. Ext2 you 
get to sit there watching the file systems scan away. The bigger your 
hard disk, the longer you'll sit and the faster ext3 would seem. :) In 
other cases, because ext3 is writing it's journal to a disk every few 
seconds, it could be a little slower. Since most systems aren't normally 
under intense I/O, this is usually unnoticable. You do have the option 
of storing the journal to a different disk.

Ok, I've hit the end of any helpfull thought on the subject, now for 
some related ponderings:

I've read people suggesting to not use ext3 over ext2 on some 
directories (which means different mounts for those directories.) I 
think they talked about places like /var/spool/news but I could be very 
wrong.

Maybe /etc would be better served by a Reiser FS.

Jacob

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