snapshot.debian.net
Does http://snapshot.debian.net really keep EVERY version of EVERY package in unstable? I've been doing this myself; on the rare instances when something blows up it's been great; but if anything is missing, Murphy's law comes into play... -Tom -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
device ownership for Xwindows user
Greetings all, I'm an old Linux user (started with the TAMU 0.99 release) who got busy with life and kids, and lazy and ran RedHat. I'm switching to Debian to get back to my roots and have a few, probably brainless, questions. First on my list is that in RedHat the /etc/security/console.perms grants temporary ownership of the device files listed in it to the user logged on to X. So I'd set it up for the tty devs with my modem and palm pilot, the cd burner, the usb port for my Kodak camera, etc. At login the X user would become the owner of the listed devices, at logout, they would revert to the standard device owner. Is there a comparable mechanism in Debian? TIA, Chuck -- --- |Chuck Mattern | "People often find it easier to be a result | |[EMAIL PROTECTED] | of the past than a cause of the future."| --- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Getting rid of worms and viruses
In linux.debian.user, Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Well, once spamassassin learns the viruses, it'll detect it as spam. > This is extremely desirable: It gives you the opportunity to go romp > through headers and report them to the originating ISPs. > Idiot-hostile ISPs like NTL, dsl-only, and xprt.net (rightfully) > terminate customer contracts for such activity. And you verify the originating ISP how? Virus's have a slight tendency to forge headers. I've got spam from my address - I didn't send it, I don't think this virus has sent me anything as addressed to me from me, but I still wouldn't count on the headers being authentic. Michael C. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mcsuper5.freeshell.org/ Registered Linux User #303915 http://counter.li.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Anti-Spam ideas for usenet/list harvested email addresses
On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 22:33:51 +0200, Arnt Karlsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> penned: > > ..to swat that last one too: _Nobody_ needs binaries in email. > Those without "zip.exe", is best helped with an url, to it. > Nobody needs binary *executables*. My dad isn't going to ever produce an executable -- he will have gotten it from *somewhere*, and can probably send me a link. On the other hand, my dad *does* produce pictures, and I find it unlikely that he will learn how to upload them to a server. I'd like to see pictures of my family, so I deem those binaries acceptable. -- monique -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dselect, was Re: OT: RH and Debian brothers now?
On Friday 26 September 2003 10:29 am, Pigeon wrote: > On Fri, Sep 26, 2003 at 02:52:12AM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > > On Sat, Sep 27, 2003 at 08:26:32AM +1200, cr wrote: > > > I appreciate that dselect is only part of the install process, albeit the > > > largest part timewise if one uses it. > > You don't have to, though. > Yeah, but what are the choices? > > Run tasksel (y/n)? (frequently too coarse) > Run dselect (y/n)? (we all know about this one :-) ) > Do it by hand afterwards - somewhat inconvenient and daunting for a > new user Yeah, I agree that dselect is awful (to be fair, it probably wasn't so bad when there were fewer packages to wade through). I have stopped using it, myself. I recommend using "tasksel" to rough out the system, then using apt-get to finish the job. The tasksel will give you a working system with the basics you need that you may not know by name. Then the apt-get will allow you to ask for everything you specifically know you want. The downside is that it may be a little hard to find the correct package names by what they do or what commands they include. I have only just recently learned that there are ways to query this on the command line (but they may only work for installed packages?). Anyway, myself, I make used of the "packages search" on the Debian website to make those determinations. Usually, you can just use apt-get to load stuff as you need it after that. And of course, once you get a collection of packages you like, you can use the dpkg --get-selections and dpkg --set-selections to save and retrieve your choices or replicate onto multiple computers. HTH, Terry -- Terry Hancock ( hancock at anansispaceworks.com ) Anansi Spaceworks http://www.anansispaceworks.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: error message after kernel upgrade
On Thu, Sep 25, 2003 at 09:43:49AM +0100, steve downes wrote: > In the process of setting up a new machine I've upraded the kernel > from 2.2 to 2.4.22-1-686 using apt-get upgrade > > I am getting:- > > VFS Cannot open root device "303" or 03:03 > Please append a correct "root=" boot option > Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 03:03 > > > I can boot from a floppy using root=/dev/hda3 & this is the option in > lilo.conf (& yes I have run lilo) > > Cannot find any ref to "303" or 03:03 in the docs. > > Any pointers please. > Your lilo.conf file does not mentions initrd? -- Shaul Karl,shaulk @ actcom . net . il -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Anti-Spam ideas for usenet/list harvested email addresses
On Fri, Sep 26, 2003 at 09:18:51PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > On Fri, Sep 26, 2003 at 04:05:39PM +0100, Pigeon wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 26, 2003 at 01:40:27AM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > > > Wow, way too easy. It should require you to type something long and > > > case sensitive. You know, something like, "Yes, I fully understand > > > that what I am asking is roughly as brilliant as drinking bleach." > > > > ...sulphuric acid, on the other hand, is really tasty. > > I guess it saves on toothpaste. > I used to *love* licking my fingers after handling low-concentration sulfuric acid in Chemistry class. It tastes exactly like salt -n- vinegar potato chips (salt in hands; acid like acid). That was highly DILUTE acid, no jokes necessary -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Any users of mondoarchive on debian boxes?
I'm running the mondoarchive package on Debian 3.0 using a 2.4.22 kernel compliled from source. Saw the commentary on the mondo web site; not sure what the issue there is. The Debian package works fine; getting the kernel parameters straight is essential. I've not used the kernel packages, but imagine that you have to get the source package to add the necessary functions. Ernest Johanson Systems Administrator Fuller Theological Seminary On Wed, 24 Sep 2003, Paul E Condon wrote: > Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 21:07:40 -0600 > From: Paul E Condon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Any users of mondoarchive on debian boxes? > > An article in Oct issue of Linux journal got me interested in Mondo > Archive, which is software that builds self-booting restore CDs for > Linux systems. So, I started to try to use it. I found a debian > package in Woody, and did the standard apt-get ... . I had mostly no > problem understanding the man page. But some puzzles lead me to look > at the Mondo web site, and ... > > >From reading the Mondo web site, it appears that there are > no documented instances of mondoarchive being used successfully > on a Debian system, and that Debian kernels are somehow non- > standard, and difficult to work with. Is this true? And, if true, > why is there a Debian package of Mondo Archive? > > And if not true, who, on this list has experience? Is there a > different Debian list where I should be going for help on this > particular package? > > Thanks. > > -- > Paul E Condon > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Anti-Spam ideas for usenet/list harvested email addresses
In linux.debian.user, Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 04:16:02PM -0500, Ray wrote: > > it seems to me the easiest solution would be for ISPs to have a > > policy and software that supported the policy of no .exe .com .src > > .pif .bat (etc...) attachments. any email will either be dropped or > > have the attachment dropped and replaced with a short explination of > > it being against policy and how to make a zip/gz/tar/whatever file if > > they really want to send a .exe > > That's exactly what we want to do: force the user to open a tarball to > figure out what's up. 8:oP Worm writers *will* adapt to this. > The problem is that the preview pane runs them automatically, If the file has to be handled at any point such as unzipping a file (Many windows users have no clue what a tar file is, and there's no reason they should.) it usually breaks the chain. I believe MS started defaulting to no executable by default a few viruses ago, with the option to turn it back on, they need to turn it off and leave it off. And stop hiding extensions. > > perhaps if someone wrote the "don't f*&$ open me"[1] virus and had it > > go through a little tutorial about why not to open unknow attachments > > have message go something like "I was foolish enough to open the > > attachment, and since you are at risk of getting a message from me > > with a virus, this attachment has forwarded itsself to you" They just had an anti-virus virus, which was at least as bad as the original. Pass thanks. > > Eh. The way I handled NIMDA and Code Red was to write a quick little > script with the help of an actually clueful MCSE that ran through the > apache error.log every hour and used wget to try and exploit the > offending machine and wipe the drive. After a week of that, there > were only four or five machines left that would go down for a few > days, then start trying again for a few minutes until the top of the > hour hit and got wiped again. Those morons had to have been > reinstalling windows two or three times a week. Ehh, you might have given the morons time to back up essential work, and seperated all the machines, verified they were clean, patched them. And educated the users, before putting them back on line. It would have eliminated the need to reinstall multiple times on the same machine, and it needed to be done anyhow. I hope your boss authorized it, preferably in writing, or they have a sense of humor. Otherwise I'd start looking for a job outside the IT industry. Michael C. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mcsuper5.freeshell.org/ Registered Linux User #303915 http://counter.li.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
what mailing system for me ?
Hi list, Used until now only sylpheed as my mta but needs X to run. If I want using 'mutt', a complete set of packages must be setup :( But what packages, I'm completely newbie about messaging. I've a little network and 1 isdn-router. And I've personally 4 mailing accounts on 3 ISP's, that's 12 accounts. The goal is to deal a console mailer with my sylpheed mail directory (maildir) + a spam filter who's delete directly from the ISP ( no download of spam-messages). What's the best combination of packages ? Thanks for your advice. mess-mate -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: top showing cpu-states on woody
Johann Spies wrote: How do I get top to show the usage of each cpu on a server with more than one cpu? On woody there is no "1" option to toggle it like on Sid or other distributions. I was wondering this exact thing just yesterday. What I found is that the version of top (procps) included with woody does not support this. You have to get the newer version, for example by backporting the version in testing. I also found a post suggesting the sysstat package with the mpstat program which provides some similar functionality. I use this: mpstat -P ALL 1 http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/2003-May/002208.html http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg09618.html http://procps.sourceforge.net/changelog.html Stuart Johnston -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exim (was Re: spam software)
Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote: On Sat, Sep 27, 2003 at 03:24:55AM +1000, Russell Shaw wrote: | Paul Johnson wrote: | >On Fri, Sep 26, 2003 at 10:28:49AM -0400, Vivek Kumar wrote: | > | >>Thanks.. I got it. I was reading the docs and it seems there is no | >>configuration/install help for sendmail ?? Is there any docs/help for | >>sendmail configuration. I am sorry to bother you. I am new to Debian and | >>linux world so pardon my questions. | > | >http://www.procmail.org/ might have information. Sendmail is a real | >bitch, I *strongly* recommend you use sa-exim and exim4, as this | >really makes life easy. | | Is exim4 any better than exim3? A lot. | Exim3 is very vague on header re-writing rules for dialup pop3 | accounts (it seems to be an afterthought-cludge). How so? The rewriting rules are very flexible, and fully explained in the manual (/usr/share/doc/exim/spec.txt.gz). I've read thru the O'Reilly Exim3 book a few times. I wanted to rewrite all From and Reply-To headers only on mail that is sent out the smtp transport to my dialup isp. However, exim3 doesn't let you rewrite envelope addresses on per-transport rewrites. The only other option is to use the rewrite rule in the "generic" section of exim.conf. This applies the rule to every local message floating around the system, so its effects are too undefined for my liking. Does exim4 allow envelope rewriting on only an smtp outgoing mail transport? | I'm trying out postfix now. Also a good choice. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Anti-Spam ideas for usenet/list harvested email addresses
On Fri, Sep 26, 2003 at 04:05:39PM +0100, Pigeon wrote: > On Fri, Sep 26, 2003 at 01:40:27AM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > > Wow, way too easy. It should require you to type something long and > > case sensitive. You know, something like, "Yes, I fully understand > > that what I am asking is roughly as brilliant as drinking bleach." > > ...sulphuric acid, on the other hand, is really tasty. I guess it saves on toothpaste. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MS mail bombs
On Fri, Sep 26, 2003 at 03:59:53PM +0100, Pigeon wrote: > On Wed, Sep 24, 2003 at 04:22:47PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 24, 2003 at 02:39:51PM +0800, csj wrote: > > > Why not? Mailfilter has a log feature of varying degrees of > > > verbosity. So if I accidentally delete a notice saying "Subject: > > > Congratulations: You've just won a million $$", I could always ask the > > > sender to resend it. Any email which can't be resent (or isn't > > > archived somewhere) isn't worth reading. This goes for love letters > > > and subpoenas. > > > > I don't know - I can't imagine being very popular if I tried to tell my > > girlfriend "sorry, I thought your e-mail was spam so I deleted it" in > > response to a declaration of undying passion. I don't choose who I go > > out with based on how careful they are with their e-mail. :P > > ...so you'd be prepared for her to accidentally forward your own > declaration of undying passion to debian-user by mistake? :-) I think there's something of a difference in degree of carelessness there :) (Actually, depending on the content, it might not upset me a great deal. But my attitude to relationships is definitely off-topic for -user ...) -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Son of Swen?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 26 September 2003 15:09, Wayne Topa wrote: > You need an account to look at it. ;-( Check again, because I don't have an account on it, and I checked again now to see if something has changed since I posted the link. Can still access it. You can also get to it through Nancy McCough's procmail page, where I got it: http://www.ii.com/internet/robots/procmail/qs/ (there is a link) - -- John_ email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Quis custodiet ipsos custodes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAj91IOUACgkQkz0vhQtHHRgCGwCghLsgz9z0T/2fFMtKpcYN5p94 OhoAoIqUEyY0xkxtElIa+eH9R+7JggY/ =02Qh -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: erors during cdrecord
#include * Joris Huizer [Fri, Sep 26 2003, 07:44:24AM]: > cdrecord.mmap: Operation not permitted. WARNING: > Cannot set RR-scheduler > cdrecord.mmap: Permission denied. WARNING: Cannot set > priority using setpriority(). > cdrecord.mmap: WARNING: This causes a high risk for > buffer underruns. > > A month ago or something I got rid of some permission > problems (with your help!) but I guess there's still > something there's causing this problem. > > Can anybody tell me what to do to solve this? Nothing. You use Unstable SO PLEASE READ THE BUG REPORTS. There is not much we (cdrecord maintainers) can do now - the upstream author must fix some glitches in the cdrecord code to not drop root permissions before allocating higher process priviledges. MfG, Eduard. -- php ist an sich ne recht nutzlose sprache wenn da nicht soviele dinge so einfach drin moeglich waeren -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[OT - in the media] report on being too dependent on Microsoft
[sorry to break the thread, I lost the original] (I posted this the other day): > Here's an article on cnn.com that might help your boss listen: > > "Microsoft dominance threatens U.S." > > http://money.cnn.com/2003/09/25/technology/microsoft_usa.reut/index.htm?cnn=yes Here's one bit of fallout: http://www.msnbc.com/news/971914.asp?0si=&cp1=1 -- Bill Moseley [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Nonsense DNS lookups for own hostname
Hello! Recently I discovered something weird on my system: Seemingly every minute, it does DNS lookups for its own host names, which of course fail because I'm not in my ISP's DNS (and don't even have a dynamic IP, plus I'm on a local network with a firewall). Here is an extract from tcpdump: <<< 21:07:46.590705 arp who-has SebastianL2 tell 192.168.0.1 21:07:46.590740 arp reply SebastianL2 is-at 0:0:cb:6:1:27 21:07:46.591361 SebastianL2.32805 > dns03.btx.dtag.de.domain: 35559+ PTR? 1.0.168.192.in-addr.arpa. (42) (DF) 21:07:46.660347 dns03.btx.dtag.de.domain > SebastianL2.32805: 35559 NXDomain 0/1/0(119) (DF) 21:08:01.461009 SebastianL2.32805 > dns03.btx.dtag.de.domain: 36563+ ? SebastianL2. (29) (DF) 21:08:01.531739 dns03.btx.dtag.de.domain > SebastianL2.32805: 36563 NXDomain 0/1/0(104) (DF) >>> I don't know much about tcpdump; all I can tell is that something weird is going on. I have a feeling it might be exim because it is run in a cron job that somehow executes every minute, so that would obviously be my next question: If it's exim, what could be the reason there? I've attached exim.conf; I only replaced my smarthost user and password with something generic. Here is my /etc/hosts file, in case something is wrong with it: <<< 127.0.0.1 localhost SebastianL2 192.168.0.5 SebastianL2 192.168.2.2 SebastianL2 # The following lines are desirable for IPv6 capable hosts # (added automatically by netbase upgrade) ::1 ip6-localhost ip6-loopback fe00::0 ip6-localnet ff00::0 ip6-mcastprefix ff02::1 ip6-allnodes ff02::2 ip6-allrouters ff02::3 ip6-allhosts >>> There's also some other issue I noticed with exim, but I don't want to start a new mail because it's really minor and I already attached my exim.conf in this mail. The "Sender" field of all my emails seems to be terminated by three commas. You should be able to see it in this mail, unless it gets removed on the way. If you know why, please tell me. I'm using Sylpheed to send mail directly through exim. I'm using Debian unstable. Please CC me because I'm not subscribed to the list. If this is the wrong list to ask this stuff, or if I should file a bug report against exim or something else, please tell me. I may also easily be overlooking something as I'm somewhat new to the Unix/Linux world. Thanks a lot in advance! -- Sebastian Reichelt exim.conf Description: Binary data
removing plptools-kde
Hi, I am trying to remove the package plptools-kde on my unstable box. I ran apt-get remove plptools-kde and I got the following results: #apt-get remove plptools-kde Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done The following packages will be REMOVED: plptools-kde 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 to remove and 1 not upgraded. Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 614kB disk space will be freed. Do you want to continue? [Y/n] (Reading database ... 118328 files and directories currently installed.) Removing plptools-kde ... dirname: too many arguments Try `dirname --help' for more information. dpkg: error processing plptools-kde (--remove): subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 1 Errors were encountered while processing: plptools-kde E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) can someone help? thanks Pete -- Someone esle can help you better than I can. Every time I think that perhaps we are an advanced race, I turn around and read ramblings on Slashdot, and realize I was wrong. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Took 2 days for my message to post!?!
On Fri, 2003-09-26 at 12:13, Michael Kahle wrote: > Is the list running slow because of the MS Virus? > > My message: "Subject: route entries will not stick" was sent on Wed > 9/24/2003 @ 12:52pm CST it posted to the list on Friday 9/26/2003 @ ~11:00 > CST. Then my reply, "Subject: RE: route entries will not stick" which I > sent on Friday 9/24/2003 @ 5:12pm CST did not post to the list until Friday > 9/26/2003 @ 11:57am CST. > > So what is the deal? It normally takes about a half hour for me to see a > message that I posted on the list. What can be done about this, if > anything? > > Just to be clear, I am not outraged at this or anything. I very much You *ought* to be outraged, but not at those who run the Debian mail servers. Focus your anger at those who create such brain- fscking-dead apps and swiss-cheese OS. -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jefferson, LA USA "Whatever may be the moral ambiguities of the so-called demoratic nations and however serious may be their failure to conform perfectly to their democratic ideals, it is sheer moral perversity to equate the inconsistencies of a democratic civilization with the brutalities which modern tyrannical states practice." Reinhold Nieburhr, ca. 1940 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cron
On Fri, Sep 26, 2003 at 02:52:57PM -0400, Howell Evans wrote: > You can not make cron more granuler(sp?) then ever 5 mins. No, cron has a one-minute granularity. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: fetching older packages?
On Thu, Sep 25, 2003 at 03:23:56AM +, Monique Y. Herman wrote:
> Anyway, this brings up the question, how do I revert to an older version
> of a package? A friend pointed out that I can just dpkg -i
> whatever.deb, where whatever is the older version, but I still have
> questions:
>
> 1) Where do I find this older version? In this case it should be the
> version that was available on unstable right up until a few hours ago.
http://snapshot.debian.net/ will have it.
> 2) What does debian do about the dependencies? In most cases, will
> having newer libraries be okay, or do I need to replace just about
> everything?
With the odd exception, newer libraries will usually be OK.
> 3) The python 2.3.1-1 package depends on the python 2.3 package depends
> on the python package. How am I to understand these dependencies?
> Could I just remove the 2.3.1-1 package and still somehow have python
> running?
I don't get what you mean here. Could you explain in more detail?
> 4) If I do revert, how do I tell dselect (or apt-get or whatever) not to
> upgrade, and how do I know when the newer version is available?
Press '=' on the package in dselect, or 'echo PACKAGE-NAME hold | dpkg
--set-selections'. dselect will show you the held package among the
packages with newer versions available, and you can unhold ('+' in
dselect) when you think the available version fixes the bug.
Cheers,
--
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Re: Cron
Howell Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > You can not make cron more granuler(sp?) then ever 5 mins. Why not? Man page says you can: cron then wakes up every minute, examining all stored crontabs, check- ing each command to see if it should be run in the current minute. -- Alan Shutko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - I am the rocks. Dahmer on cooking: BABY Back Ribs. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Son of Swen?
On Fri, 2003-09-26 at 07:55, Frank Gevaerts wrote: > On Fri, Sep 26, 2003 at 12:47:10PM +0200, Martin Jungowski wrote: > > Wow, have you been hiding under a rock? ;) > > Probably not. The chance of not finding a worm under a rock is much > smaller than elsewhere. There's absolutely no possible adequate response to that horrible pun. > > That worm has been around for quite a while, I have received over 2500 > > of these mails on my uni-account and another 1000 on my main > > email-account. > > > > I swear to god if I'm ever going to meet the guy that wrote this virus > > I'll make sure that he won't be able to have any kids, EVER! And we > > should probably also do so with all the Windows users who are just so > > plain stupid that they opened this attachment. > > Opening it is not needed. If you don't have the very latest outlook > (express?) patches, it has autorun functionality. You ought, instead to emasculate the people who came up with the auto-run idea, and those who approved the idea, and *their* managers, and the parents who bore and raised such obvious hyper-cephalics. -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jefferson, LA USA "All machines, no matter how complex, are considered to be based on 6 simple elements: the lever, the pulley, the wheel and axle, the screw, the wedge and the inclined plane." Marilyn Vos Savant -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cron
Travis Crump wrote: Russell Shaw wrote: Hi, I set this with crontab -e : 3 * * * * /usr/bin/mailfilter ; /bin/echo "Mailfiltering" | /usr/bin/mail -s mai 1 * * * * /bin/echo "Date is `date`." | /usr/bin/mail -s cron root ### I should get mail every minute, but it doesn't work. If i try: /bin/echo "Date is `date`." | /usr/bin/mail -s cron root in the shell, then i do get mail. 3 * * * * would be once an *hour* at three minutes past the hour. Five stars is every minute. Aha, man 5 crontab : # every 5 minutes: */5 * * * * /bin/echo "Date is `date`." | /usr/bin/mail -s cron root ### -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ppp stalls on computer activity
Hi all I have a Sony laptop PCG-FXA32 running Debian SID, kernel 2.4.20 (hand-rolled) with an odd problem. I have an external hardware modem (Motorola modemsurfr) on ttyS0. Every time there is heavy load on the machine, e.g. opening a program or when cron runs, downloading wll stop completely. As soon as the activity gets back to normal, downloading will resume. Any ideas? Other debian machines I have now and in the past have not done that. My /etc/ppp/ options is default, and my connection was set up by pppconfig. I am pasting in the .config for my kernel below. I have had several different kernel configurations on this machine, but did not save the configuration files. They all showed the same problem, so maybe this is a hardware issue? Thanks Michael Westwind # # Automatically generated make config: don't edit # CONFIG_X86=y # CONFIG_SBUS is not set CONFIG_UID16=y # # Code maturity level options # # CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL is not set # # Loadable module support # CONFIG_MODULES=y CONFIG_MODVERSIONS=y CONFIG_KMOD=y # # Processor type and features # # CONFIG_M386 is not set # CONFIG_M486 is not set # CONFIG_M586 is not set # CONFIG_M586TSC is not set # CONFIG_M586MMX is not set # CONFIG_M686 is not set # CONFIG_MPENTIUMIII is not set # CONFIG_MPENTIUM4 is not set # CONFIG_MK6 is not set CONFIG_MK7=y # CONFIG_MELAN is not set # CONFIG_MCRUSOE is not set # CONFIG_MWINCHIPC6 is not set # CONFIG_MWINCHIP2 is not set # CONFIG_MWINCHIP3D is not set # CONFIG_MCYRIXIII is not set CONFIG_X86_WP_WORKS_OK=y CONFIG_X86_INVLPG=y CONFIG_X86_CMPXCHG=y CONFIG_X86_XADD=y CONFIG_X86_BSWAP=y CONFIG_X86_POPAD_OK=y # CONFIG_RWSEM_GENERIC_SPINLOCK is not set CONFIG_RWSEM_XCHGADD_ALGORITHM=y CONFIG_X86_L1_CACHE_SHIFT=6 CONFIG_X86_HAS_TSC=y CONFIG_X86_GOOD_APIC=y CONFIG_X86_USE_3DNOW=y CONFIG_X86_PGE=y CONFIG_X86_USE_PPRO_CHECKSUM=y CONFIG_X86_F00F_WORKS_OK=y CONFIG_X86_MCE=y # CONFIG_TOSHIBA is not set # CONFIG_I8K is not set # CONFIG_MICROCODE is not set # CONFIG_X86_MSR is not set # CONFIG_X86_CPUID is not set CONFIG_NOHIGHMEM=y # CONFIG_HIGHMEM4G is not set # CONFIG_HIGHMEM64G is not set # CONFIG_HIGHMEM is not set # CONFIG_MATH_EMULATION is not set CONFIG_MTRR=y # CONFIG_SMP is not set # CONFIG_X86_UP_APIC is not set # CONFIG_X86_TSC_DISABLE is not set CONFIG_X86_TSC=y # # General setup # CONFIG_NET=y CONFIG_PCI=y # CONFIG_PCI_GOBIOS is not set # CONFIG_PCI_GODIRECT is not set CONFIG_PCI_GOANY=y CONFIG_PCI_BIOS=y CONFIG_PCI_DIRECT=y CONFIG_ISA=y CONFIG_PCI_NAMES=y # CONFIG_EISA is not set # CONFIG_MCA is not set CONFIG_HOTPLUG=y # # PCMCIA/CardBus support # CONFIG_PCMCIA=y CONFIG_CARDBUS=y # CONFIG_TCIC is not set # CONFIG_I82092 is not set # CONFIG_I82365 is not set # # PCI Hotplug Support # CONFIG_SYSVIPC=y # CONFIG_BSD_PROCESS_ACCT is not set CONFIG_SYSCTL=y CONFIG_KCORE_ELF=y # CONFIG_KCORE_AOUT is not set CONFIG_BINFMT_AOUT=y CONFIG_BINFMT_ELF=y CONFIG_BINFMT_MISC=y CONFIG_PM=y # CONFIG_APM is not set # # ACPI Support # CONFIG_ACPI=y CONFIG_ACPI_BOOT=y CONFIG_ACPI_BUS=y CONFIG_ACPI_INTERPRETER=y CONFIG_ACPI_EC=y CONFIG_ACPI_POWER=y CONFIG_ACPI_PCI=y CONFIG_ACPI_SLEEP=y CONFIG_ACPI_SYSTEM=y CONFIG_ACPI_AC=y CONFIG_ACPI_BATTERY=y CONFIG_ACPI_BUTTON=y CONFIG_ACPI_FAN=y CONFIG_ACPI_PROCESSOR=y CONFIG_ACPI_THERMAL=y # CONFIG_ACPI_TOSHIBA is not set # CONFIG_ACPI_DEBUG is not set # # Memory Technology Devices (MTD) # # CONFIG_MTD is not set # # Parallel port support # CONFIG_PARPORT=y CONFIG_PARPORT_PC=y CONFIG_PARPORT_PC_CML1=y # CONFIG_PARPORT_SERIAL is not set # CONFIG_PARPORT_AMIGA is not set # CONFIG_PARPORT_MFC3 is not set # CONFIG_PARPORT_ATARI is not set # CONFIG_PARPORT_GSC is not set # CONFIG_PARPORT_SUNBPP is not set # CONFIG_PARPORT_OTHER is not set CONFIG_PARPORT_1284=y # # Plug and Play configuration # CONFIG_PNP=y CONFIG_ISAPNP=y # # Block devices # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_FD=y # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_XD is not set # CONFIG_PARIDE is not set # CONFIG_BLK_CPQ_DA is not set # CONFIG_BLK_CPQ_CISS_DA is not set # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_DAC960 is not set # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_LOOP is not set # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_NBD is not set # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_RAM is not set # CONFIG_BLK_STATS is not set # # Multi-device support (RAID and LVM) # # CONFIG_MD is not set # # Networking options # CONFIG_PACKET=y # CONFIG_PACKET_MMAP is not set # CONFIG_NETLINK_DEV is not set # CONFIG_NETFILTER is not set # CONFIG_FILTER is not set CONFIG_UNIX=y CONFIG_INET=y CONFIG_IP_MULTICAST=y # CONFIG_IP_ADVANCED_ROUTER is not set # CONFIG_IP_PNP is not set # CONFIG_NET_IPIP is not set # CONFIG_NET_IPGRE is not set # CONFIG_IP_MROUTE is not set # CONFIG_INET_ECN is not set # CONFIG_SYN_COOKIES is not set # CONFIG_VLAN_8021Q is not set # # # # CONFIG_IPX is not set # CONFIG_ATALK is not set # # Appletalk devices # # CONFIG_DECNET is not set # CONFIG_BRIDGE is not set # # QoS and/or fair queueing # # CONFIG_NET_SCHED is not set # # Network testing # # CONFIG_NET_PKTGEN is not set # # Telephony Support # # CONFIG_PHONE is not set # # ATA/IDE/MFM
Re: nvidia and kernel
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [030926 17:48]: > I am trying to compile kernel with the nvidia module in. In > /etc/src/kernel-source 2.5.something then I put the nvidia module > like this Kernels with a odd number number in the middle are development Version, you shouldn't use them, if you don't know, what you are doing. > I had compiled a 2.4.18 kernel like that and the nvidia kernel got in exept then I > lost > sound and ethernet. So im trying again. > > So what am I doing wrong? So try to get net and sound support in your 2.4.18er Kernel, or search on www.apt-get.org for someone who compiled the nvidia-driver, and whose packages you can install. Yours sincerely Alexander pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Cron
On Sat, Sep 27, 2003 at 03:45:57AM +1000, Russell Shaw wrote: > I set this with crontab -e : > > 3 * * * * /usr/bin/mailfilter ; /bin/echo "Mailfiltering" | /usr/bin/mail > -s mai > 1 * * * * /bin/echo "Date is `date`." | /usr/bin/mail -s cron root > ### > > I should get mail every minute, but it doesn't work. "1 * * * *" means "at :01 of every hour". You want "* * * * *" for "every minute", and "*/3 * * * *" for "every three minutes". (Frequencies that don't divide evenly into 60 are trickier.) -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: LILO problems,no boot, can I use Knoppix rescue to fix?
* J F <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [030924 21:53]: > But when I run lilo, it > says: > # sudo su > # lilo -C /mnt/hda1/etc/lilo.conf > Fatal. Sorry, don't know how to handle device 0xf000 > > How can I use Knoppix to fix LILO boot? I don't know, if this will fix your problem, but you might try to use chroot /mnt/hda1 and running lilo from there, instead of using -C ... Yours sincerely Alexander pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: mixing stable and testing debian packages.
* Louie Miranda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [030926 09:06]: > Is it possible to mix stable and testing deb packages?. Theoreticaly yes, practicaly maybe. Many packages from testing depend on packages, which don't exist in stable, or on newer ones, so updating some components to testing may lead you very fast to a system, where many core-components come from testing. Additionaly you should know, that testing is not supported by Debians Security Team, so you should subscribe the debian-security-announce list, and keep an eye on vulnerable packages you have installed. It might even be possible, that you need to install a package from unstable, to fix a problem in testing fast. > I mean, ex: I have libc6 2.2.5-11.5 and i want to make it libc6 2.3.1-1 As I said: libc6 is such a core component. You might want to search on www.apt-get.org or www.backports.org for packages from testing or unstable, backport to stable, before you start playing with your system. > Now, im confused. Btw, if im going to put the testing distribution on > /etc/apt/sources.list > will my apt-* tools fixed this problem? And whats the correct configuration > to get testing deb packages. If you tell apt a source for testing packages, it will be able to fix most problems. Due to the process of unstable becoming testing, it is possible, that a package in testing depends on an other package, which isn't part of testing yet. > I mean like this: > > deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free > > Whats the url and will i change stable to testing?. If you haven't found a backport, and still want packages from testing you can try the following: - add a new "deb ..." line to your /etc/apt/sources.list replacing "stable" with "testing". - Since apt will take the newest package avaible you need to tell apt, that you prefer "stable" over "testing". - So create a file /etc/apt/apt.conf containing the line: 'APT::Default-Release "testing";' - run "apt-get update" to update you database of avaible packages - when you call apt-get it will install packages from stable and follow dependcies within stable - when you call "apt-get install /testing" it will install the package from unstable, and tries to follow dependcies within stable - when you call "apt-get -t testing" apt-get will get everything from testing, use it with caution! Yours sincerely Alexander PS: All this is mentioned in the apt-howto. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Anyone else notice that Swen is slowing down?
On Fri, Sep 26, 2003 at 04:42:24PM +0200, Nicos Gollan wrote: > On Friday 26 September 2003 14:53, Ron Johnson wrote: > > After getting hundreds of infections per day early in the week of > > 14-Sep, it seems to have radically tapered off: > > > > [...] > > > > Am I the only one to see it slow down? > > I had 24MB of that sucker tonight... Compared to the 34MB last night, it's > better, but that might be a temporal low. It seems to me that it's been > periodically getting more or less over the whole week without actually being > on the decline. 24MB of it yesterday was a blessed relief. It had been around ten times that for a couple of days previously. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: RH and Debian brothers now?
On Fri, Sep 26, 2003 at 08:01:12AM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Fri, Sep 26, 2003 at 04:21:49PM +0200, Sven Hoexter wrote: > > All your complains are right but they have _nothing_ to do witch apt-get! > > Nor have they (with exception of point 1) something to do with rpm. > > Actually, they do. Lack of standardised package names and mutual > incompatability of RPMs between between distros. Notice how Mandrake > RPMs aren't Red Hat RPMs aren't SuSE RPMs. Notice how Debian debs are > Knoppix debs are Stormix debs are third party debs. Installing third-party .debs on a Debian system has been known to cause serious problems (in certain cases, obviously far from all). Those who were around on debian-devel in 2000 or so will probably remember a number of complications caused by Helix GNOME packages, and people backporting large numbers of packages from unstable to stable can tell you about the exciting incompatibilities they've run into. In practice third parties creating Debian packages are practically obliged to make them compatible with Debian or they'll run into problems, and even then they can have subtle dependency issues. I don't think this is the big win over RPMs that you're making it out to be. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
per user samba
Hello! Is there a way to setup samba, to enable the users to share files/dirs under their home dirs. Under kde/konqueror there is an option to share files, and if I'm root under kde I can setup to allow the users to share files/dirs under their home dir or to not to allow anything. But this isn't working, and I think it's because the samba config. So can I setup samba to allow a simple user, who doesn't have root privilages to share some stuff in his home dir. I guess it will be a ~/.smb file or something like that, but that I don't know :) Thanks! Daniel -- LeVA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: woody kernel upgrade woes
>Pigeon wrote: >On Mon, Sep 22, 2003 at 01:34:01PM -0700, Ben Blout wrote: >> I am struggling with a kernel upgrade with a woody box, installed from >> 3.0r0 CD. I installed with a 2.2.20 kernel, not sure what flavor. This >> being the first time I did anything kernel related, I did what I thought >> was the simplest thing, and chose the 2.2.20 image from >> security.debian.org, using dselect. >> >> After the upgrade, the box would not boot, hanging after the LILO >> screen (Loading..). I inserted cd #1, and at the boot: prompt [snip] >> Installing the latest 2.4.18 kernel image had the same result. It has >> been suggested to me (but I am not sure) that the problem is the images [snip] >> > >You are correct - aic7xxx.o is the module you need for Adaptec 2940 >support. But you don't want it as a module - you want it built into >the kernel if you're going to boot off it. In the kernel's config file >(/boot/config-`uname -r`) you will find CONFIG_SCSI_AIC7XXX=y if it's >built into the kernel; if it's only a module the y becomes an m. > >The alternative is to build it as a module and use an initrd. I must >say I thought the prepackaged kernels did this as standard (I don't >know, I've always compiled my own). Perhaps the initrd is installed >(in /initrd) but lilo hasn't been configured to use it? Darryl B. also suggested looking at re-running mkinitrd. Thanks for the help - looking at all these things finally led me to the solution. Somehow, the boot=/dev/hda line in lilo.conf had been changed to boot=/dev/sda. I don't remember making that change, but I suppose it is possible. Once I fixed that, the default installs of both 2.2.20 and 2.4.18 worked fine. Could the upgrade to 2.2.20 from security.debian.org have made that change to lilo.conf? And, my apologies that my original post appeared three times. One of the duplicates was related to a mistake by me - no idea how the other duplicate happened. -Ben __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Test message--please disregard
Please disregard. I am sending this because I have stopped receiving d-u about three days ago. -Roberto -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Took 2 days for my message to post!?!
Is the list running slow because of the MS Virus? My message: "Subject: route entries will not stick" was sent on Wed 9/24/2003 @ 12:52pm CST it posted to the list on Friday 9/26/2003 @ ~11:00 CST. Then my reply, "Subject: RE: route entries will not stick" which I sent on Friday 9/24/2003 @ 5:12pm CST did not post to the list until Friday 9/26/2003 @ 11:57am CST. So what is the deal? It normally takes about a half hour for me to see a message that I posted on the list. What can be done about this, if anything? Just to be clear, I am not outraged at this or anything. I very much appreciate the resource as well as the members who contribute. My thanks will never be enough to compensate everyone for their hard work. Just curious as to what I should expect. Thanks. -michael -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ACPI gnome applet for battery
The applet is in gnome-applets 2.2.2-2 This battery applet works through APM only (the package depends on the `libapm' libray) I am looking for an applet that works through ACPI. You are incorrect. It works (on my computer, right now) with acpi as well. That is correct (I have check the souce): the applet reads data files in /proc/acpi Nevertheless I note that this applet takes a lot of cpu time: I guess it spends its times to read the data. I am sorry for the mistake. Thanks, Jerome -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: make-kpgk with ccache or compilercache
Alex Polite wrote: Does anyone here have experience with using ccache or compilercache with make-kpkg? Will it work? How is it done? alex $ PATH=/usr/lib/ccache:$PATH fakeroot make-kpkg [] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sa-learn and spamassassin's markup
On 03-09-25 11:28 -0700, Vineet Kumar wrote: > Does sa-learn recognize and ignore spamassassin's markup? I just Hi Vineet, I can't give you an authorative answer, but I seem to have gotten good results just pointing it to my Maildir, SA 2.35 (i think..) headers & all.. The --dir option supports globbing too, since I have separate maildirs for SA-caught & SA-missed spam, I was able to do something like: $ sa-learn --spam --dir ~/Maildir/.spam-*/cur & then $ sa-learn --ham --dir ~/Maildir/.clients.*/cur $ sa-learn --ham --dir ~/Maildir/.people.*/cur etc, etc It still takes some time to churn through, but I was able to learn it something like 6,000 messages with 1/2 dozen commands, fairly unattended Kenneth -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Getting rid of worms and viruses
On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 02:29:54 -0700, Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> penned: > > If a host is also it's own MX, having the MX is not necissary (if it > was, I shouldn't have been able to recieve email for the last six > years). You also should *NOT* be pointing MX entries at random hosts, > even your ISP. You need to make arrangements with someone running a > mail server before pointing an MX at them. > It's my impression that you don't generally need an MX record if you're just running your own mail, but if you're also using a backup MX server, that you need an entry for yourself so that you can specify a lower priority for your own server than for the backup server ... otherwise, mail might go to the backup server first. Is that wrong? You do need to make arrangements with someone to have them run a backup MX for you ... one such service provider, with whom I haven't done business, is dyndns.org ... iirc they charge something like $20 or $30 a year for backup MX services. -- monique -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apt-get upgrade: dpkg error
On Fri, Sep 26, 2003 at 09:10:00PM -0300, Frank Hrebabetzky wrote: > > When I executed "apt-get upgrade", it cycled through Since you are essentially upgrading from stable to testing, what you should do is: apt-get update apt-get -u dist-upgrade Since testing changes everyday, if you need to download files over several days, you should repeat the apt-get update each day before you start downloading. > > "Preparing to replace ..." > "Unpacking replacement ..." > > some times until ending with > > "Unpacking replacement librpm4 ... > Errors were encountered while processing: > /var/cache/apt/archives/gettext-base_0.12.1-3_i386.deb Testing now has gettext-base_0.12.1-6_i386.deb, download that file and try again. Or try putting the problem package on hold with: echo gettext-base hold | dpkg --set-selections > Yesterday at 6:00 am the download was complete and the system began to > ask long lists of configuration questions. After some time I interrupted > the PPP connection because my budget is limited, which provoked an error > message. Once all the packages are downloaded, you don't need to continue the ppp connection. If you use apt-get's "--download-only" option, apt-get will stop after downloading the package without installing them. At that point you can kill the ppp connection and then proceed with installation with another "apt-get upgrade" or "apt-get dist-upgrade". > 1. indicate me the next step Suggestion given above or: [start your ppp connection] apt-get update apt-get --download-only -u dist-upgrade [or upgrade] [stop your ppp connection after the download completes] apt-get dist-upgrade [or upgrade] > > 2. give me a good argument that I am not walking in a circle? To see what the upgrade plans to do before doing it, use options like "-u" and "--simulate". If you don't like what is going to be done, you can abort If you downloaded the packages over several days without doing an "apt-get update" before an "apt-get upgrade" you may have a set of packages that are not completely consistent with regards to dependencies. "apt-get upgrade" will not install all the packages you need if you are upgrading to testing. As a check, try apt-get --simulate -u upgrade and then compare it to apt-get --simulate -u dist-upgrade pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Windows multiboot (aaargh!)
On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 20:17:21 +1200 cr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Conclusions: > > 1. Back up the MBR and everything else, first! > 2. Be very, very careful when using 'map' to swap drives around > 3. It's probably safest to let DOS/Windows occupy Drive 1, where in its > blinkered arrogance it thinks it belongs. Linux can sit somewhere else. > I'm glad you were able to unscrew your system, but methinks you got lucky. Having a backup of the MBR is nice but not necessary, and it probably isn't sufficient most of the time. What you really need is to be able to re-create all the partition tables, and if you use an extended partition not all that information will be in the MBR. To get a complete listing of partitions on all drives on your system do: fdisk -ul > partitions.030926 which saves the output in a text file. Save that text file somewhere other than on the system you may need to restore (such as a floppy or USB memory device). Should you need to recreate your partition table you can do so using fdisk (not cfdisk and certainly not parted). Kevin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Son of Swen?
Right on. Hugo. __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Error message in testing upgrade
Good evening all, I have just updated/upgraded my testing system this evening, and all went OK except for one error message and I am unsure how to resolve the problem that dpkg has encountered. The message is: Preconfiguring packages ... (Reading database ... 50115 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to replace xfree86-common 4.2.1-6 (using .../xfree86-common_4.2.1-11_all.deb) ... Unpacking replacement xfree86-common ... dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/xfree86-common_4.2.1-11_all.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/bin/X11', which is also in package realplayer System startup links for /etc/init.d/xfree86-common already exist. Setting up X server socket directory /tmp/.X11-unix...done. Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/xfree86-common_4.2.1-11_all.deb localepurge: checking system for new locale ... localepurge: processing locale files ... localepurge: processing man pages ... E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) Ack! Something bad happened while installing packages. Trying to recover: Press return to continue. Would someone be so kind as to point me to some reading so that I can learn to interpret these messages and resolve the problem, or tell me how to resolve the problem. Everything seems to be working OK after the upgrade, but when I go into aptitude, it still reports the "xfree96-common" package as upgradable. Thanks in advance for your help. -- Lonnie Sutton - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Bainbridge Island, WA 98110 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: what mailing system for me ?
On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 14:53:11 +0200, mess-mate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi list, > Used until now only sylpheed as my mta but needs X to run. > If I want using 'mutt', a complete set of packages must be setup :( ..oh? Try ' mutt pop://user:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ' ;-) > But what packages, I'm completely newbie about messaging. > I've a little network and 1 isdn-router. > And I've personally 4 mailing accounts on 3 ISP's, > that's 12 accounts. > The goal is to deal a console mailer with my sylpheed mail directory > (maildir) + a spam filter who's delete directly from the ISP ( no > download of spam-messages). What's the best combination of packages ? ..mailfilter + fetchmail + procmail. Set up fetchmail to "preconnect mailfilter" _before_ fetching the mail, as I guess you wanna weed out spam. _After_ fetching mail, fetchmail hands it over to procmail, which drops it home to your 12 or whatever more mailboxes you have. ;-) ..more details in the docs and in the recent backtraffic here, search for "MS mail bombs" and "Spam". -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;-) ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
to make kppp working with unprivilege user ?
Hi, I try to make kppp work with a normal user (so, not root). I had this user to group dip and dialup. Now it tells me that I can't use the ppp option "noauth" without root privilege ... Is there a way to use kppp with my normal user account, and without making pppd setuid root ? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Anti-Spam ideas for usenet/list harvested email addresses
At 2003-09-26T00:52:37Z, "Jacob Anawalt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > If thousands of people were personally emailing me virus laiden emails, > that's one thing, but that's not the case here. I'm getting thousands of > emails from copies of a virus that isn't opening O* to send it's mail. Same here, but they're from machines that were infected *by* an Outlook* user opening their mail. > I'm sure someone could pipe up about how it's hard to walk their > grandma/client through installing *zip, which unfortunatly is a valid > point. :( I disagree. I can't think of any reason why I'd be mailing an executable to someone instead of a URL to where they can download it themselves, with the exception of development collaboration among people experienced enough to use *zip. > Lets say all viruses start mailing zipped copies of themselves. They only > have to zip themselves once on the host machine then mail that copy. Now > we have to watch for a zip archive in mime data and unzip all mail to scan > it, or reject zipped files as well. :( I only think that'd be a problem *if* Microsoft built an unzip-then-execute-er into Windows (which is admittedly not implausible). Why? Because the first thing that gets permanently burned into your brain when you work in a tech support position is "people are lazy". I can almost guarantee that requiring an additional couple of clicks before a Trojan installer can be run would drop infection rates by 90%. I think a more solid long-term strategy would be to write mail clients that make it impossible to automatically perform any action on an attachment more advanced than displaying a picture. Want to play an attached MP3? Save it to your drive then load it. Want to open a .zip archive? Save it to your drive first. Refer back to "people are lazy". Removing the "One-Click (TM) Infection" vector would dramatically reduce trojan distribution. -- Kirk Strauser In Googlis non est, ergo non est. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
LILO problems,no boot, can I use Knoppix rescue to fix?
I am doing this from memory, so I stand to be corrected. But... You must chroot to the root directory that has the problem and the /etc with lilo.conf. Lilo does that with the -r option: so try lilo -r /mnt/hda1 Regards, Hugo __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
reiserfs - hard disk hits
Hi, I've noticed that my sid box is hitting its hard drive every five seconds, even if all the processes are [S]leeping... Maybe reiserfs is updating the journal or bdflush flushing the cache, but why? I assume that some program (or the kernel itself) is writing to hd. I'm running sid, kernel 2.4.22 (compiled with reiserfs built-in). All the process are in sleeping status. Any info appreciated, Gabriele Persia. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Anyone else notice that Swen is slowing down?
On Fri, Sep 26, 2003 at 07:53:19AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > After getting hundreds of infections per day early in the week of > 14-Sep, it seems to have radically tapered off: > > Date Count > -- - > 2003-09-1952 (10 hours) > 2003-09-2037 > 2003-09-2114 > 2003-09-2265 > 2003-09-2333 > 2003-09-2420 > 2003-09-25 9 > > Am I the only one to see it slow down? I guess so. These are my numbers : 15 2003-09-18 177 2003-09-19 192 2003-09-20 134 2003-09-21 409 2003-09-22 362 2003-09-23 286 2003-09-24 329 2003-09-25 (at 16:00) They are mostly swen, although there are also one or two other viruses in there. It seemed to slow down a bit yesterday, but today it is picking up speed again. (note that I am in GMT+2) Frank -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: This might be a darned fine Knoppix station
also sprach Martin Jungowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003.09.26.0032 +0200]: > While we're on that subject, does anyone in here have any Lindows > experience? I remember that several years ago when it was first > announced, there was rumors about a "100% MS Windows compatible > Linux" that "will run every Windows application out of the box". > Did they really achieve that? No, not even close. I think they ended up giving in and dropped that line fro marketing. -- Please do not CC me when replying to lists; I read them! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian developer, admin, and user `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fixing a system Invalid/expired PGP subkeys? Use subkeys.pgp.net as keyserver! pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Son of Swen?
On Fri, Sep 26, 2003 at 12:47:10PM +0200, Martin Jungowski wrote: > Wow, have you been hiding under a rock? ;) Probably not. The chance of not finding a worm under a rock is much smaller than elsewhere. > That worm has been around for quite a while, I have received over 2500 > of these mails on my uni-account and another 1000 on my main > email-account. > > I swear to god if I'm ever going to meet the guy that wrote this virus > I'll make sure that he won't be able to have any kids, EVER! And we > should probably also do so with all the Windows users who are just so > plain stupid that they opened this attachment. Opening it is not needed. If you don't have the very latest outlook (express?) patches, it has autorun functionality. Frank > > Martin > > > > > On Fri, 2003-09-26 at 08:39, Ross Boylan wrote: > > Just when you thought you were safe by filtering out mails over > > 140k > > > > I just received a MS upgrade worm that appears to have a complete > > executable that's 0.1k. So the whole message is quite brief. > > > > I wish whoever was doing this would use their talents for goodness and > > niceness instead of evil > > > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: running short on DMA buffers during badblocks
On Tue, 2003-09-23 at 11:18, Jens Axboe wrote: > On Mon, Sep 22 2003, Georg Nikodym wrote: > > On Fri, 1 Jan 1904 00:13:59 +0100 > > > > Jens Axboe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Upgrade your kernel, this bug is fixed in 2.4.20 and newer. > > > > Wow, dude. You're old :-) > > Better? :) > > Dunno why, but if my powerbook runs out of juice while suspended it > screws the time. That's because the battery that keeps the time is a very small capacitor. Doesn't hold for long at all... --- Bastien Nocera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The revelation that his marriage of 30 years had disintegrated because of his wife's infidelity came as a rude shock, like a surcharge at a formerly surcharge-free cashpoint. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
what mailing system for me ?
Hi list, Used until now only sylpheed as my mta but needs X to run. If I want using 'mutt', a complete set of packages must be setup :( But what packages, I'm completely newbie about messaging. I've a little network and 1 isdn-router. And I've personally 4 mailing accounts on 3 ISP's, that's 12 accounts. The goal is to deal a console mailer with my sylpheed mail directory (maildir) + a spam filter who's delete directly from the ISP ( no download of spam-messages). What's the best combination of packages ? Thanks for your advice. mess-mate -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xplanet with gnome (root window in general)
On Fri, 2003-09-26 at 03:33, David Fokkema wrote: > This is becoming painful. I think I will submit a wishlist bug or > something... This is what I do to change the root window with all of gnome enabled (nautilus, etc): gconftool -t str -s /desktop/gnome/background/picture_filename ~/bg.jpg Therefore, you can do something like this for xplanet: xplanet -blend -output ~/bg.jpg -geometry 1024x768 gconftool -t str -s /desktop/gnome/background/picture_filename ~/bg.jpg Another useful option is: gconftool -t str -s /desktop/gnome/background/picture_options "centered|scaled|stretched|wallpaper" where you pick oe of centered, scaled, stretched or wallpaper. Jamie -- Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG/PGP ID: 26384A3A Fingerprint: D9FF DF4A 2D46 A353 A289 E8F5 AA75 DCBE 2638 4A3A -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Starting Emacs: "Loading 40mule-ucs (source)..." takes a while.
On Friday 26 September 2003 12:00, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Wed, Sep 24, 2003 at 05:52:32PM +0100, Adam wrote: >> I've never had this problem on Emacs on other Linux distros or >> OpenBSD, although I use mule. Why does this slow loading occur >> specifically in Debian, and how can I fix it? > > Did you use the byte-compiling options when you installed emacs? Probably not! I just used dselect when I installed stable (using boot floppies and a network installation), then later fiddled the sources list and used apt-get dist-upgrade. I take it the problem is that Emacs is loading Mule from *.el rather than *.elc files. How do I set the option I want? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dselect insisting to install/uninstall dozends of packages
On Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 10:13:13PM +0200, Andreas Schildbach wrote: > I somehow managed that dselect insists on installing or uninstalling > dozends of packages (which will most likely ruin my installation). I've > tried everything to erase the selections from dselects memory, including > all solutions described in the dselect introduction on debian.org. > > How can I reset dselects selections to the currectly installed packages? There's a patch in http://bugs.debian.org/151540 to make this a single-key action. To, er, quote myself from that bug report: Without that, the best way I know, short of the risky procedure of hand-editing /var/lib/dpkg/status, is to use the ':' (unhold) command with the cursor on each of the "Updated packages (newer version is available)", "Up to date installed packages", and "Available packages (not currently installed)" headers. You may have to go round a few times to calm dselect down. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Umask trouble
Hello everyone, I'm trying to find some umask settings, however I'm afraid the ones I look for don't exist. Here's what I'm trying to achieve: When a user makes a file: -rwxrwxr-- When a user makes a directory: drwxrwx--x However when I use a umask that makes the files okay... the dirs are also readable and when I use a umask that makes the dirs okay... fhe files are no longer readable. Any suggestions? Thank, Ron PS. Please CC any reactions to me as I'm not on the list. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debian bug reporting
On Fri, Sep 26, 2003 at 02:30:32AM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Wed, Sep 24, 2003 at 08:11:02PM +1200, Paul William wrote: > > If there is a bug in a debian package and you are 90% sure its the > > upstream developers fault should you still report it and let the > > packager forward it upstream? I dont want to piss of debian packagers. > > Submit it with the upstream flag. Preferably not. I don't think that bug submitters should use the upstream tag: it's there to help *maintainers* categorize their bugs. The maintainer almost always has more information than the submitter about whether or not the bug is upstream, and you should let them decide. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: iptabels and DNAT problem
The problem is fixed -- Rudy Gevaert[EMAIL PROTECTED] Web pagehttp://www.webworm.org GNU/Linux user and Savannah hacker http://savannah.gnu.org ``Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler.'' -- A. Einstein -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: LILO problems,no boot, can I use Knoppix rescue to fix?
On Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 11:02:02PM -0400, J F wrote: > > Any way, I can reboot using the Knoppix CD > as a rescue disk > and then edit /mnt/hda1/etc/lilo.conf . > But when I run lilo, it > says: > # sudo su > # lilo -C /mnt/hda1/etc/lilo.conf > Fatal. Sorry, don't know how to handle device 0xf000 > > How can I use Knoppix to fix LILO boot? I haven't specifically tried this with a Knoppix CD, but you probably need to use chroot. mount /dev/hda1 /mnt mount /dev/hdaX /mnt/boot#assumming your /boot is in a different partition chroot /mnt /sbin/lilo pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Grafische Benutzeroberfläche
Hi Carten, You might also want to try the "debian-user-german" mailing list if you encounter any further problems ... http://lists.debian.org/debian-user-german/ Philipp - Hi Carten, die debian-user Mailing Liste gibt es auch in deutsch: "debian-user-german" --> http://lists.debian.org/debian-user-german/ Grüße, Philipp Hallo Debianteam !!! Linux ist für mich eigentlich Neuland, ich habe vorher schon einwenig mit SUSE 8.0 gespielt . Jetzt habe ich von den vorteilen von eurem System gehört . Ich habe mir eure neue Version gekauft und Installiert . Es hört sich vieleicht komisch an, ich komme aber nicht in dem Grafischen Desktop. mit welchen Befehl kann ich denn die Grafische Benutzeroberfläche Starten ? Der Prompt ist da .Leider kann ich dieses aus der Dokumetation nicht rauslesen .Oder habe ich bei der Installation etwas falsch gemacht .Bei Suse kann ich ja zwischen der Grafischen und dem Eingabe Prompt wescheln. Für Eure Bemühungen bedanke ich mich im vorraus mfg Carsten -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dselect insisting to install/uninstall dozends of packages
On Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 10:13:13PM +0200, Andreas Schildbach wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I somehow managed that dselect insists on installing or uninstalling > dozends of packages (which will most likely ruin my installation). I've > tried everything to erase the selections from dselects memory, including > all solutions described in the dselect introduction on debian.org. > > How can I reset dselects selections to the currectly installed packages? You could try copying /var/lib/dpkg/status to a different name and then replace the status file with /var/lib/dpkg/status-old or with an earlier version from the backups in /var/backups. The older the backup, the more out of sync it will be with what you currenly have installed, but the more likely it is to fix your problem. If you feel a little more adventurous, you could try editing the status file itself and change appropriate lines to read: Status: install ok installed pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Grafische Benutzeroberfläche
this is an english speaking list, so please post in english . regarding your question: running "startx" should be enough to switch to X. if it doesn't work, check if you have "xserver-xfree86" installed. A simple "apt-get install xserver-xfree86" should do it . If you still have trouble, post again with some error messages... Philipp now in german: Eigentlich sollte "startx" ausreichen um die grafishe Benutzeroberfläche zu starten. An sonsten würde ich nachschauen ob "xserver-xfree86" installiert ist. Wenn nicht, einfach mit "apt-get install xserver-xfree86" installieren. Wenn trotzdem noch Probleme gibt, einfach noch einmal mit der Fehlermeldung posten Philipp Hallo Debianteam !!! Linux ist für mich eigentlich Neuland, ich habe vorher schon einwenig mit SUSE 8.0 gespielt . Jetzt habe ich von den vorteilen von eurem System gehört . Ich habe mir eure neue Version gekauft und Installiert . Es hört sich vieleicht komisch an, ich komme aber nicht in dem Grafischen Desktop. mit welchen Befehl kann ich denn die Grafische Benutzeroberfläche Starten ? Der Prompt ist da .Leider kann ich dieses aus der Dokumetation nicht rauslesen .Oder habe ich bei der Installation etwas falsch gemacht .Bei Suse kann ich ja zwischen der Grafischen und dem Eingabe Prompt wescheln. Für Eure Bemühungen bedanke ich mich im vorraus mfg Carsten -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Unidentified subject!
hello.. can i ask a question on here by anychance.. paul wade?? my question is do i know you?? i truly hope so... but the names april and i havebeen trying to find you for like six years now.. Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search
bind has quit working
On my personal server, bind has quit working. Previously, I had a caching nameserver running at 192.168.0.1 that also resolved local names on my internal network. I was futzing around with fetchmail/mailfilter and decided to reboot the server. On reboot, dns no longer works, unless I point resolv.conf to my isp's dns boxes. However, ps -A | grep named still shows named running. Where do I need to look to start my detective work? I'm running sid. TIA Jeff Elkins -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
3d (opengl) games crash
Hi debian-users I am running debain unstable. I know that things crash in unstable I just find it odd that two 3d/opengl games both give segfaults so I think it may be a problem on my end. I have an nvidia card and I am using the latest nvidia drivers. If you have any ideas what I may have done wrong to cause tuxracer and vegastrike to segfault please post it on the list. The following is the output of tuxracer followed by vegastrike. I have resent this as the original was sent a few days ago and I don't think it got to the list as my mail server ran out of diskspace. Thanks to Johann for pointing it out to me. Regards Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/projects$ tuxracer Tux Racer 0.61 -- a Sunspire Studios Production (http://www.sunspirestudios.com)(c) 1999-2000 Jasmin F. Patry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Tux Racer" is a trademark of Jasmin F. Patry Tux Racer comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY. This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it under certain conditions. See http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html for details. Segmentation fault [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/projects$ vegastrike Vega Strike See http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html for license details. Data directory is /usr/share/games/vegastrike no name or value given for variable no name or value given for variable no name or value given for variable no name or value given for variable no name or value given for variable using config file in data dir /usr/share/games/vegastrike SIMULATION_ATOM: 0.06 WARNING: no var named directory in section data using default: /usr/share/games/vegastrike WARNING: no var named sharedmeshes in section data using default: meshes WARNING: no var named sharedunits in section data using default: units Opened audio at 44100 Hz 16 bit stereo, 4096 bytes audio buffer WARNING: no var named python_modules in section data using default: modules WARNING: no var named python_bases in section data using default: bases running import sys print sys.path sys.path = ["/usr/share/games/vegastrike/modules/builtin","/usr/share/games/vegastrike/modules","/usr/share/games/vegastrike/bases"] ['/usr/lib/python2.2', '/usr/lib/python2.2/plat-linux2', '/usr/lib/python2.2/lib-tk', '/usr/lib/python2.2/lib-dynload', '/usr/local/lib/python2.2/site-packages', '/usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages'] testing VS randomrunning import sys print sys.path ['/usr/share/games/vegastrike/modules/builtin', '/usr/share/games/vegastrike/modules', '/usr/share/games/vegastrike/bases'] WARNING: no var named DopplerScale in section audio using default: 1 open /dev/[sound/]dsp: Device or resource busy Fatal signal: Segmentation Fault (SDL Parachute Deployed) Loop average : 0 Loop average : 0 Thank you for playing! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
3d (opengl) games crash
Hi debian-users I am running debain unstable. I know that things crash in unstable I just find it odd that two 3d/opengl games both give segfaults so I think it may be a problem on my end. I have an nvidia card and I am using the latest nvidia drivers. If you have any ideas what I may have done wrong to cause tuxracer and vegastrike to segfault please post it on the list. The following is the output of tuxracer followed by vegastrike. I have resent this as the original was sent a few days ago and I don't think it got to the list as my mail server ran out of diskspace. Thanks to Johann for pointing it out to me. Regards Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/projects$ tuxracer Tux Racer 0.61 -- a Sunspire Studios Production (http://www.sunspirestudios.com)(c) 1999-2000 Jasmin F. Patry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Tux Racer" is a trademark of Jasmin F. Patry Tux Racer comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY. This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it under certain conditions. See http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html for details. Segmentation fault [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/projects$ vegastrike Vega Strike See http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html for license details. Data directory is /usr/share/games/vegastrike no name or value given for variable no name or value given for variable no name or value given for variable no name or value given for variable no name or value given for variable using config file in data dir /usr/share/games/vegastrike SIMULATION_ATOM: 0.06 WARNING: no var named directory in section data using default: /usr/share/games/vegastrike WARNING: no var named sharedmeshes in section data using default: meshes WARNING: no var named sharedunits in section data using default: units Opened audio at 44100 Hz 16 bit stereo, 4096 bytes audio buffer WARNING: no var named python_modules in section data using default: modules WARNING: no var named python_bases in section data using default: bases running import sys print sys.path sys.path = ["/usr/share/games/vegastrike/modules/builtin","/usr/share/games/vegastrike/modules","/usr/share/games/vegastrike/bases"] ['/usr/lib/python2.2', '/usr/lib/python2.2/plat-linux2', '/usr/lib/python2.2/lib-tk', '/usr/lib/python2.2/lib-dynload', '/usr/local/lib/python2.2/site-packages', '/usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages'] testing VS randomrunning import sys print sys.path ['/usr/share/games/vegastrike/modules/builtin', '/usr/share/games/vegastrike/modules', '/usr/share/games/vegastrike/bases'] WARNING: no var named DopplerScale in section audio using default: 1 open /dev/[sound/]dsp: Device or resource busy Fatal signal: Segmentation Fault (SDL Parachute Deployed) Loop average : 0 Loop average : 0 Thank you for playing! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sa-learn and spamassassin's markup
On Thu, Sep 25, 2003 at 11:28:32AM -0700, Vineet Kumar wrote: > Does sa-learn recognize and ignore spamassassin's markup? I just Yes, if you turn up the verbosity with the debug switch it will even tell you about it. > recently upgraded spamassassin to 2.55-4 on this box, and I've been > feeding some messages into it, but so far I've been going through the > semi-tedious process of piping through spamassassin -d and then into > sa-learn. Am I wasting time? The spamassassin manpage says that -r > strips spamassassin's markup before reporting, but the sa-learn manpage > doesn't say that it does. Anybody know? What do you do, remove the > markup, or just pipe in the message? Actually, with the new way that > spamassassin 2.55 is mime-enveloping the messages, I'm going into mutt's > view-attachments screen and piping the "Original message before > spamassassin" part into sa-learn. It's much more tedious than being > able to just tag all of the messages and send them in, knowing that > sa-learn would do the right thing. Would it? Been there, done that. Now I just save spam to a special mailbox and use a cronjob to feed it to sa-learn in the middle of the night. HTH dt -- Dave Thayer | If trees could scream, would we be so cavalier about Denver, Colorado USA | cutting them down? We might, if they screamed all [EMAIL PROTECTED] | the time, for no good reason. - Jack Handey -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Grafische Benutzeroberfläche
Hallo Debianteam !!! Linux ist für mich eigentlich Neuland, ich habe vorher schon einwenig mit SUSE 8.0 gespielt . Jetzt habe ich von den vorteilen von eurem System gehört . Ich habe mir eure neue Version gekauft und Installiert . Es hört sich vieleicht komisch an, ich komme aber nicht in dem Grafischen Desktop. mit welchen Befehl kann ich denn die Grafische Benutzeroberfläche Starten ? Der Prompt ist da .Leider kann ich dieses aus der Dokumetation nicht rauslesen .Oder habe ich bei der Installation etwas falsch gemacht .Bei Suse kann ich ja zwischen der Grafischen und dem Eingabe Prompt wescheln. Für Eure Bemühungen bedanke ich mich im vorraus mfg Carsten
Re: OT: RH and Debian brothers now?
On Friday 26 September 2003 22:03, Alex Malinovich wrote: > On Fri, 2003-09-26 at 16:31, cr wrote: (snip) > > dselect is actually not so bad on a one-app basis, it's trying to use it > > to select all the apps for an install where it rapidly gets old.;) > > Call me weird, but unless I'm only installing one or two packages (which > I'll just use apt-get to do) I think dselect is the best tool for the > job. It lets you see recommended and suggested packages while > automatically showing you which dependencies need to be installed. It's > also the only really "intuitive" package manager I've found. It took me > about 2 hours of playing with it to understand it. With respect, if it takes a couple of hours to understand, I wouldn't call that 'intuitive'. And the other thing is, I guess, that first encountering it during the Debian install process (and having to restart the whole process if you make a mistake) is the worst possible time to get to know any piece of software. But I won't belabour the point any further. cr -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: RH and Debian brothers now?
On Friday 26 September 2003 21:52, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Sat, Sep 27, 2003 at 08:26:32AM +1200, cr wrote: > > I appreciate that dselect is only part of the install process, albeit the > > largest part timewise if one uses it. > > You don't have to, though. > > > What makes it frustrating is that, > > while working through the huge list of apps in dselect (which isn't the > > most intuitive piece of software ever written ;) > > No software is intuitive, it's all learned. The only intuitive > interface is the nipple, the rest is in your head. ... but some is more intuitive than others. I don't want to get sidetracked into a debate about 'intuitive' but I could, in the space of a few minutes, make a list of programs which are easy to use and others (which do the same thing) which are hard to use. I'll spare the list this digression though.;) cr -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SU shows my password at terminal
On Thu, 2003-09-25 at 19:51, Kirk Strauser wrote: > At 2003-09-25T23:03:18Z, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > I realized after I asked the question that this is probably a Kernel > > issue. This is a P4 1.7 -- I shouldn't be able to outtype it. > > > > Probably need low-latency kernel. > > I don't follow. What makes you think that this has anything to do with > kernel unresponsiveness? A bogged system wouldn't let you type anything at > all, would it? Typeahead. I'm surprised, though, that Linux has this problem. A fast typist logging into even the slowest VAX (or fastest Alpha screamer) running VMS never has this problem (and typeahead is always used in VMS, since network lag to remote systems causes "lag" all the time). -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jefferson, LA USA Thanks to the good people in Microsoft, a great deal of the data that flows is dependent on one company. That is not a healthy ecosystem. The issue is that creativity gets filtered through the business plan of one company. Mitchell Baker, "Chief Lizard Wrangler" at Mozilla -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: OT: rfc-ignorant RBL
on Mon, Sep 22, 2003 at 11:22:14PM +0200, martin f krafft ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Is anyone using the rfc-ignorant RBL? I have seen Karsten and Baloo > report there, but testing it out right now, I immediately discovered > that > > - amazon.com does not accept postmaster@ > - aol.com does not accept abuse@ > > Thus I am wondering: is this at all useful? dsn.rfc-ignorant.org > seems to be, but blocking aol.com and amazon.com would be a little > harsh because I doubt that the decision fuckheads there would ever > consider to change it. Appropriate use of *any* RBL is for use in a weighted assessment of spamminess. I prefer use within a system that scores for appropriateness of the metric, such as SpamAssassin. If you have an interest in promoting standards, you can, of course, explicitly reject mail based on the RFC-Ignorant RBL itself. While I wouldn't recommend this for a general-traffic, common-carrier site, its the sort of policy which might work well on a domain for which standards compliance is a high priority. The issue is, after all, correctable. Peace. -- Karsten M. Self <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What Part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? NPR: Radio for between the ears: http://www.npr.org/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: (Potato) dselect: Some index files failed to download
On Wed, Sep 24, 2003 at 07:47:53AM +0200, A. Schirmacher wrote: > Did the set up of ftp.de.debian.org change in the last > few month? dselect - update does not work correctly > anymore, although my sources.list was unchanged since > more than one year. The system is Debian 2.2. Debian 2.2 is obsolete, no longer security-supported, and has been removed from the main Debian archive. You can get it from archive.debian.org if you really need it, but I strongly advise upgrading to 3.0. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SU shows my password at terminal
At 2003-09-25T23:03:18Z, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > I realized after I asked the question that this is probably a Kernel > issue. This is a P4 1.7 -- I shouldn't be able to outtype it. > > Probably need low-latency kernel. I don't follow. What makes you think that this has anything to do with kernel unresponsiveness? A bogged system wouldn't let you type anything at all, would it? -- Kirk Strauser In Googlis non est, ergo non est. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: burning a CD
On Fri, Sep 26, 2003 at 08:26:41PM +0200, Joan Tur wrote: > Es Divendres 26 Setembre 2003 08:57, en csj va escriure: > > readcd dev=0,0,0 f=cdimage.iso > That can also be done using: > dd if=/dev/cdrom of=cdimage.iso > > but... do you know if there's any difference between ways of creating the > iso?? 8-? readcd is more useful in terms of its response to errors. For example, if you have a scratched CD you can use the -noerror option to continue reading past the unreadable bit, so you only lose the files under the scratch, not everything beyond that as well. -- Pigeon Be kind to pigeons Get my GPG key here: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x21C61F7F pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: LILO problems,no boot, can I use Knoppix rescue to fix?
J F wrote: Repost with modifications, first one did make it to the list: I did an aptitude and did an update, and a few "g" keystrokes to download and install. Aptitude said something like: Warning, it was deleting modules for old version of kernel. Now the system won't reboot. THe screen says: LILO 22.5.6.1 Loading Linux ... This is from a Knoppix CD hard disk install. Any way, I can reboot using the Knoppix CD as a rescue disk and then edit /mnt/hda1/etc/lilo.conf . But when I run lilo, it says: # sudo su # lilo -C /mnt/hda1/etc/lilo.conf Fatal. Sorry, don't know how to handle device 0xf000 How can I use Knoppix to fix LILO boot? AFAIK you have to create new version of your /etc/lilo.conf where you replace the old paths by new ones (just like/etc/lilo.conf becomes /mnt/hda1/etc/lilo.conf, you have to map all of them in the same way) of course, do not change your original lilo.conf, you will need it in future... erik -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MS mail bombs
On Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 10:10:42PM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > ..someone on this list mentioned some other program to check > popservers before fetchmail'ing? > mailfilter? -- Shaul Karl,shaulk @ actcom . net . il -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
TV tuner cards?
I'm using Debian Testing (Sarge), on my desktop. After lo, these many months, I'm considering going ahead and installing Debian on my laptop, an Averatec (formerly Sotec) 3120V. I'm also thinking of getting a TV tuner card for same, for the CardBus slot. This would be able to receive broadcast TV, accept NTSC and S-Video inputs, and in an ideal world also receive FM. Oh, and it should be cheap. In this ideal world. Anyone have experience using such a card on a laptop running Debian? Thanks. -- Carl Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabootu's Minister of Proofreading http://www.jabootu.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Adding a user with a dot (.) in his name: How?
On Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 09:58:38PM +0200, Andreas Schildbach wrote: > Hello everyone, > > For compatibility reasons, I need to add a user with a dot (.) in his > name. "adduser" does not allow this, even if I invoke it with the > parameter "--force-badname". > > Can anyone show me a possibility to make "adduser" ignore this > restriction for this one time? The user is only for cvs access via > pserver, he does not need a home directory and interactive shell access. just ignore adduser. Add the user by hand to the passwd and shadow files, and change his password with passwd. > > Regards, > > Andreas > > -- > Andreas Schildbach - Java J2EE software development and architecture > http://www.schildbach.de > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
pinning: Upgrading to unstable via gui, from testing.
I'm using pinning and I can't find ought how to use dselect to select packages that should track unstable. I would also like to select packages that, if able, should track testing/stable. Is there another gui that might deal better with pinning? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cdrecord as regular user
On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 11:22:14 +0200, David Fokkema wrote: > Hi group, > > I have problems with cdrecord when run as a regular user. I configured > the debian package with suid, but still I get the irritating > RR-scheduler warnings: > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/files/iso$ ls -l /usr/bin/cdrecord* -rwsr-sr-x1 > root >cdrom 142 Sep 12 15:17 /usr/bin/cdrecord > -rwsr-xr--1 root cdrom 342924 Sep 12 15:17 > /usr/bin/cdrecord.mmap > -rwsr-sr--1 root cdrom 342924 Sep 12 15:17 > /usr/bin/cdrecord.shm > > Try to set cdrecord.mmap suid for groups, too (chmod g+s /usr/bin/cdrecord.mmap). suid on cdrecord is ignored as it is a script and calls (at least for me) cdrecord.mmap. Hope that helps for you; I have the following permissions: -rwxr-xr-x1 root root 142 Sep 12 15:17 cdrecord -rwsr-sr--1 root cdwriter 342924 Sep 12 15:17 cdrecord.mmap -rwsr-xr--1 root cdrom 342924 Sep 12 15:17 cdrecord.shm and get the same warning. Greetings Andre -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: setting umask for an nfs mount
On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 16:45:59 +0100, Shri Shrikumar wrote: > On Wed, 2003-09-24 at 15:05, Mark Ferlatte wrote: >> The umask is a per-process setting, not a per mount setting. >> >> What are you trying to accomplish? > > I have the following directory structure > > ~/ > src/ > shared/ > > What happens now is that wherever I create a file, its created with > -rw-rw permissions. What I would like is for all files in share to be > created with the permissions of -rw-rw-r-- > Having the same problems here. Solved it by writing a script setperms.sh that sets the correct permissions. This script can be called by a cron job. Not a nice solution but I found no better. Greetings Andre -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how to get a silent harddisk?
Hi Jacob, and all others who are interested! On Sat, 13 Sep 2003 23:49:16 -0600 Jacob Anawalt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] > I am interested in knowing what you learn, even though 100% diskless > isn't my goal, I don't want squid to keep the disk spinning when no-one > is accessing the proxy. [snip] I finally made it :-). I implemented the initial suggestion of Stefan and put everything into a chroot jail (all the necessary libs and bins/sbins). This chroot jail is on a tmpfs. The result is, that the harddisk isn't used anymore (turned off by noflushd, additionally tuned values in /proc/sys/vm/bdflush). The daemons running in the chroot jail are: syslogd, klogd, smbd, nmbd, squid, pdnsd, dhcpd, ntpd (simple), isdnutils (isdnlog, ipppd), dlcd (my own "remote line control tool"), crond. The tmpfs is around 12M (64M RAM total) now and squid is told to use no disk cache (read-only option). Well, in fact I don't need samba, but I believe ;-), Windows networking in performing better, when samba is installed (WINS, Local Master Browser, ... :). Probably squid isn't necessary, too. At the moment I only use some ACL rules, fake-the-user-agent-feature and the header anonymize feature. I think there are smaller proxies? Oh, but I forgot the main reason: transparent proxying. Sometimes I think I could "feel" a little advantage of the small RAM cache (8M max) Hmmm I minimized logging and told crond (logrotate) to run often to control the rest. I wrote a simple bash script which copies a prepared tmpfs (on harddisk) to the real tmpfs at startup, fetches the current conf files and starts the daemons in the chroot jail. It's great, no more harddisk noise and all functions I need :-), Joachim -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Compiling pcmcia-cs to go with a 2.6.0-test5 kernel.
On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 17:28:32 +0200, Alex Polite wrote: > Hi. > > I've managed to get 2.6.0-test5 up and running on my notebook. The only > thing not working is pcmcia. > > The compiled 2.6.0-test5 kernel is in /usr/src/linux. The pcmcia-cs > sources version 3.1.33-6 are in /usr/src/modules/pcmcia-cs/ > Hi, AFAIK kernel 2.6 has the latest pcmcia-sources included. So you don't need the extra pcmcia-source package. Just use the pcmcia-cs debian package to have the control binaries and config files. Just make sure you include PCMCIA support when building your kernel. I am running 2.6 sice test1 with running PCMCIA (well for me it's CF support as I only have a CF slot) and it works very well. Andre -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: LILO problems,no boot, can I use Knoppix rescue to fix?
FIxed. I pressed the ALT key to go to boot from linux.old selection in the lilo boot menu. Then went in and downloaded a new kernel (for Athlon K7) and matching modules. Sorry, if you see my original posting several times, it is taking a full day to see my posting show up?? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
apt-get upgrade: dpkg error
When I executed "apt-get upgrade", it cycled through "Preparing to replace ..." "Unpacking replacement ..." some times until ending with "Unpacking replacement librpm4 ... Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/gettext-base_0.12.1-3_i386.deb E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)" The story behind (for whom it interests): After some weeks (!) configuring my new Debian 3.0 stable distribution, I was able to produce something worth printing, but not to print. I had lpr-ppd installed. >From a discussion on this forum I got the impression that lprng was better and installed it together with magicfilter, just that magicfilter didn't install any printer driver. So I tried to install the testing version of lprng and magicfilter, but that required a newer version af some library too. So I fed some internet addresses with testing packages in my /etc/apt/sources.list and called "apt-get upgrade". I was informed that 470MB would be downloaded. So I cancelled, shut down the system and returned at midnight, when the local phone company has a flat rate. For the next four nights, I called "apt-get upgrade" at midnight and armed my alarm clock for 6:00 am when the flat rate ends to interrupt the upgrade. Yesterday at 6:00 am the download was complete and the system began to ask long lists of configuration questions. After some time I interrupted the PPP connection because my budget is limited, which provoked an error message. As 6 hours of sleep is not enough for me, I shut the system down and went to bed again. Half an hour ago, I established the connection to my internet provider and called "apt-get upgrade". Result: see above. Somehow I know what is wrong: It is simply that nothing works in Debian out of the box. Just that this insight doesn't help me. So somebody could please: 1. indicate me the next step 2. give me a good argument that I am not walking in a circle? - Frank Hrebabetzky Tel.: +55 / 48 / 235 1106 Florianopolis +55 / 48 / 9998 7686 Brazil email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
3d games crash
Hi debian-users I am running debain unstable. I know that things crash in unstable I just find it odd that two 3d games both give segfaults so I think it may be a problem on my end. I have an nvidia card and I am using the latest nvidia drivers. If you have any ideas what I may have done wrong to cause tuxracer and vegastrike to segfault please post it on the list. The following is the output of tuxracer followed by vegastrike. Regards Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/projects$ tuxracer Tux Racer 0.61 -- a Sunspire Studios Production (http://www.sunspirestudios.com)(c) 1999-2000 Jasmin F. Patry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Tux Racer" is a trademark of Jasmin F. Patry Tux Racer comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY. This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it under certain conditions. See http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html for details. Segmentation fault [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/projects$ vegastrike Vega Strike See http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html for license details. Data directory is /usr/share/games/vegastrike no name or value given for variable no name or value given for variable no name or value given for variable no name or value given for variable no name or value given for variable using config file in data dir /usr/share/games/vegastrike SIMULATION_ATOM: 0.06 WARNING: no var named directory in section data using default: /usr/share/games/vegastrike WARNING: no var named sharedmeshes in section data using default: meshes WARNING: no var named sharedunits in section data using default: units Opened audio at 44100 Hz 16 bit stereo, 4096 bytes audio buffer WARNING: no var named python_modules in section data using default: modules WARNING: no var named python_bases in section data using default: bases running import sys print sys.path sys.path = ["/usr/share/games/vegastrike/modules/builtin","/usr/share/games/vegastrike/modules","/usr/share/games/vegastrike/bases"] ['/usr/lib/python2.2', '/usr/lib/python2.2/plat-linux2', '/usr/lib/python2.2/lib-tk', '/usr/lib/python2.2/lib-dynload', '/usr/local/lib/python2.2/site-packages', '/usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages'] testing VS randomrunning import sys print sys.path ['/usr/share/games/vegastrike/modules/builtin', '/usr/share/games/vegastrike/modules', '/usr/share/games/vegastrike/bases'] WARNING: no var named DopplerScale in section audio using default: 1 open /dev/[sound/]dsp: Device or resource busy Fatal signal: Segmentation Fault (SDL Parachute Deployed) Loop average : 0 Loop average : 0 Thank you for playing! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debian bug reporting
Arnt Karlsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 10:30:07 -0500, > John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > Peter writes: > > > You're not likely to piss off a DD by submitting a real bug > > > (speaking as a DD). > > > > I prefer that all bugs in my packages, upstream or not, be reported > > via the BTS. > > ..so, for that weird lisp bug in Emacs, I post the bug > to the Emacs guys and CC DD with the upstream flag set? :-) Yes and no. The `upstream' tag maens that the bug applies to the upstream version (it's not Debian specific). This is different than the `forwarded' tag, which means you have forwarded the bug upstream. Peter -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sa-learn and spamassassin's markup
On Thu, Sep 25, 2003 at 11:28:32AM -0700, Vineet Kumar wrote: > Does sa-learn recognize and ignore spamassassin's markup? I just > recently upgraded spamassassin to 2.55-4 on this box, and I've been > feeding some messages into it, but so far I've been going through the > semi-tedious process of piping through spamassassin -d and then into > sa-learn. Am I wasting time? The spamassassin manpage says that -r > strips spamassassin's markup before reporting, but the sa-learn manpage > doesn't say that it does. Anybody know? sa-learn removes it automatically, yes. I went through the same tedious process with 2.55 and then read the source to find out that it was unnecessary. The man page in 2.60, at least, documents this: If the messages you are learning from have already been filtered through SpamAssassin, the learner will compensate for this. In effect, it learns what each message would look like if you had run "spamassassin -d" over it in advance. This is also faster than doing it yourself, because you don't have to load the pile of Perl that is spamassassin for every message. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: source-kernel-2.4.22 and cpufreq
Thank for your reply ! Joan Tur wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Es Dijous 25 Setembre 2003 19:00, en Jerome BENOIT va escriure: Hello List, is there a patch for the source-kernel-2.4.22 as distributed in Sarge to incoporate the `cpufreq' stuff ? I've succeeded installing patch-2.4.22-ac4 onto vanilla kernel-source 2.4.22 I guess that by vanilla is meant the original source, i.e., not the one effectivelly distributed through the kernel-package ? > and setting Pentium-M speedstep up (Acer TM290). You can find both kernel-source and ac4 patch at www.linuxhq.com. After compiling the new kernel you have to download and install cpufreqd daemon. And if you want the cpu to be always at the low speed unless cpu power is needed download and install cpudyn (available through apt-get) ;) - -- Joan Tur. Eivissa-Spain Jabber, Yahoo & AIM: quini2k www.ClubIbosim.org Linux: usuari registrat 190.783 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/cyl4ok8j9RhtetwRAqiuAKCNUKYBFoy7LGcUaa0JafwcIIWVcwCgmwRM fWo6mXB1SF3SZSiiDHeH3e8= =8EsY -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Multi-user Debian
I just saved myself $600 and did NOT buy another box, but instead just a monitor, a videocard, a keyboard and a mouse. I put them in my box that just runs various flavors of Debian and apt-getted a modified 4.3.0 X and installed the vanilla 2.4.21 kernel and applied a patch. Then I started xdm and voilá: on the two monitors appeared the xdm login screen! Two people can login and do whatever! This can be done for as many as 16 users! It is described here: http://startx.times.lv/ http://www.schuldei.org/aivils/ http://varna.demon.co.uk/~svetlio/linux/how-to.html This has got to be the best idea since Linux and Debian... Regards, Hugo __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: RH and Debian brothers now?
On Fri, 2003-09-26 at 13:18, Alex Malinovich wrote: > On Fri, 2003-09-26 at 06:43, Ron Johnson wrote: > --snip-- > > > Call me weird, but unless I'm only installing one or two packages (which > > > I'll just use apt-get to do) I think dselect is the best tool for the > > > job. It lets you see recommended and suggested packages while > > > automatically showing you which dependencies need to be installed. It's > > > also the only really "intuitive" package manager I've found. It took me > > > about 2 hours of playing with it to understand it. I've tried aptitude > > > and a few of the available GUI frontends (though I admit I've never > > > tried kpackage) and even after 2 hours I just can't get the hang of 'em. > > > Though I know of QUITE a few people who absolutely swear by aptitude. > > > Personally, I couldn't be happier with dselect. :) > > > > apt-get and aptitude also show 'suggests' and 'recommends' packages. > > I believe that apt-get only recently started showing suggests and > recommends. I know that when I first started using Debian a couple of > years ago, apt-get would just go about its business without bothering > you with any real questions or suggestions. Yes, you're right. It might be in sarge now, but did see it when I installed the sid version a month or so ago. > And my comments about dselect were not meant to be exclusive of other > package managers. Every good package manager will show you suggests and > recommends, I just tend to prefer the way that dselect does it for my > own personal use. Hey, understandable. I was just passing on more info -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jefferson, LA USA The purpose of the military isn't to pay your college tuition or give you a little extra income; it's to "kill people and break things". Surprisingly, not everyone understands that. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
source-kernel-2.4.22 and cpufreq
Hello List, is there a patch for the source-kernel-2.4.22 as distributed in Sarge to incoporate the `cpufreq' stuff ? Thanks, Jerome -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Easy way to share deb files?
On Fri, Sep 26, 2003 at 11:07:27PM +0200, Raffaele Sandrini wrote: > Hi > > Im looking for an easy method to share debian files. Im running several sid > machines here. I used to upgrade them every week. Till now i did a > dist-upgrade on evey machine wich the downloads all the packages on its own. > All these machines have many identical packages installed. Since APT saves > each deb file it downloads it would be cool to do the upgrade the one machine > and let the others use that one as "source" and try to get all packages from > there and only download packages wich are not avail on the first machine... > Ist this somehow (ev without settuing up a debian mirror) possible? > I use apt-proxy. In addition to general maintenance, it really speeds up install on a new box to have all the stuff that you have already decided you need held locally. -- Paul E Condon [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NVIDIA drivers
On Fri, 2003-09-26 at 18:19, Gerard Ceraso wrote: > I use the nvidia driver from the nvidia website, the .run file. All it > does is compiles and installs the driver. Just make sure you have the same gcc version that was used to compile the kernel else it will not compile. > On Fri, 2003-09-26 at 16:26, Raffaele Sandrini wrote: > > Hi > > > > I would like to inastall the native nividia driver onto my debian box. I use > > unstable there and i saw that there are packages containing the latest debian > > driver. However these packages are broken (nvidia-glx depends on a > > non-existend package). Since i need this driver im asking u how i should > > install this driver with maintaining the debian way? Im afarid of installing > > that .run file provided by nvidia. I dont know what they are installing. > > > > Any hints to get this driver PROPER onto my box? > > > > cheers, > > Raffaele > > -- > > Raffaele Sandrini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Annoyed about M$ Windows? Don't worry. Try Linux! (www.linux.org) > > -- Sean Harshbarger| "Only two things are infinite, [EMAIL PROTECTED] | the universe and human stupidity, http://www.dersoldat.org| and I'm not sure about the former." http://coaster.sf.net | - Albert Einstein (1879-1955) Key fingerprint = 086A AA96 51DD D84D 3E64 1B26 778F 2335 C828 E736 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: can kernel 2.4.21 from testing source be installed without removing 2.4.18 from woody?
Sebastian Kapfer wrote: > > On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 04:10:06 +0200, Daniel B. wrote: > > > What's the newest packaged kernel that can be used on woody (without > > removing a stable kernel)? > > 2.4.22 -- just compile your own. The relevant packages: > kernel-source-2.4.22 (you can pilfer that one from Sid), build-essential, > kernel-package, libncurses (for menuconfig). When make-kpkg from kernel-package makes a kernel-image-...deb package, which packages(and versions) with that .deb depend on? Things on my system, or versions from sid? > You won't have much luck with the prepackaged ones as they indirectly > depend on a few things which you absolutely don't want to have on a stable > system (such as Sid's libc6). Are you referring to prebuilt binary versions or also to prepackaged versions (e.g., a Debian source package from which I build the binary version)? Daniel -- Daniel Barclay [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cannot change background in Testing
On Wed, Sep 24, 2003 at 11:08:33AM -0700, Jeremy Brooks wrote: > After the most recent updates to Testing (the update that got rid of the > error message regarding control center at login), I cannot change the > background. > > If I right-click the desktop and choose "Change Desktop Background", > nothing happens. If I go to Applications -> Desktop Preferences -> > Background, I can choose a picture, but it does not show up on the > desktop. > > Any ideas? Not sure of the exact problem, but you could try it after tonight's mirror sync: gcc-3.3 is being forced in, so lots of packages will be updated, including a number of GNOME packages. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
