Re: Installing a kernel off CD-ROM

[Andreas Janssen]

Hello

cr (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:

> On Mon, 06 Oct 2003 23:20, Andreas Janssen wrote:
>>
>> cr (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:
>>> Is there any way to install a kernel on the hard drive off the
>>> install
>>> CD-ROMs   (without going through the whole Install process)?
>>>
>>> Currently, I have the 2.4.18-k6  kernel installed on my hard drive,
>>> but it doesn't seem to have ppp enabled   (dmesg brings up no
>>> mention of ppp). I'm a little surprised, I would've thought a
>>> kernel I downloaded as a .deb off debian.org would have ppp
>>> enabled, but still...
>>> (did I do something wrong during the install, I wonder?)
>>
>> Check if the ppp support is built as modules. On my system (self
>> compiled kernel with ppp support as modules), the following modules
>> are loaded:
>>
>> [ppp modules]
> 
> No, nothing for ppp (or PPP)
> 
>> A quick search on  shows that your kernel
>> package has the ppp_async.o module (I didn't check for the other
>> ones).
>>
>> Try this to find out:
>>
>> cat /boot/config-2.4.18-k6 | grep PPP
> 
> Yes
> 
> alti:/etc/modutils# cat /boot/config-2.4.18-1-k6 | grep PPP
> [kernel seems to have ppp support]
> 
>> On my system, these drivers are loaded automatically. There is a file
>> /etc/modutils/ppp with the following lines:
>>
>> alias /dev/ppp  ppp_generic
>> alias char-major-108ppp_generic
>> alias tty-ldisc-3   ppp_async
>> alias tty-ldisc-14  ppp_synctty
>> alias ppp-compress-21   bsd_comp
>> alias ppp-compress-24   ppp_deflate
>> alias ppp-compress-26   ppp_deflate
>>
>> Please check your /etc/modutils/ppp file and your /etc/modules.conf
>> to make sure it also has these lines (if not, try to run
>> update-modules).
> 
> Yes:
> 
> [modules.conf is ok]
> 
> What does this mean?   I downloaded the kernel as a .deb from
> debian.org. I installed it (IIRC) with Kpackage or with dpkg.
> I can't recall whether it asked me any questions about what to include
> when I installed it, or not.
> 
> As a check, I just uninstalled my older 2.4.16-k6 kernel (which I
> don't normally use any more) and reinstalled it with
> dpkg -i  //kernel-image-2.4.16-k6_2.4.16-1_i386.deb
> the only questions it asked me were whether I wanted to use Lilo 
> (no). It gives exactly the same results for the ppp modules as the
> 2.4.18 kernel (above).

The module configuration file is part of the ppp package, not the kernel
image packages.

> Kppp dials my ISP and makes connection as it should - just that it
> isn't communicating with Kmail or browsers.

What does the ppp output or log say? Does pinging ip addresses work (try
ping 192.25.206.10 for www.debian.org)?

> When I boot off the bf2.4 kernel on the floppy, I got no response to
> lsmod | grep ppp   before I tried dialling my ISP, but kppp dialled
> OK and communicated with Kmail successfully and now I get :
> 
> alti:/home/cr# lsmod | grep ppp
> ppp_deflate38944   0  (autoclean)
> ppp_async   6464   0  (autoclean)
> ppp_generic18728   0  (autoclean) [ppp_deflate bsd_comp
> ppp_async]
> slhc4432   0  (autoclean) [ppp_generic]
> 
> 
> So, I'm a bit puzzled.

The modules are automatically loaded when needed. That is what
/etc/modules.conf is there for. Are they also loaded successfully when
using the other kernel?

best regards
Andreas Janssen

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Re: Exim4, Clamav, SA-Exim, (was Re: SWEN isn't slowing down)

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On Wed, Oct 08, 2003 at 11:09:25PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote:
> It is compiled into exim4-daemon-heavy so just install that package.  I
> think I had read somewhere that Andreas might eventually include exiscan-acl
> into exim4-daemon-light.  I may be wrong on that regard.  Personally after
> Swen and SoBig running -heavy with all its unused features is far preferable
> to having those additional messages in my users' inboxes.

Blargh...duh...shoulda checked apt-cache before posting...

Package: exim4-daemon-heavy
<...>
 This package features the exiscan-acl patch
 http://duncanthrax.net/exiscan-acl/ for integration of virus-scanners
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LI Hang, recovery??

[Christof Hurschler]

Hi,

I'm getting the LI hang on boot.  I tried booting from my floppy, but it
gives me a kernel panic...  

I now read that I can boot from floppy with the "rescue root=/dev/hda1", but
I'm assuming that this is the default mode the floppy boots in anyways, or
is it?

If I could get back in with the floppy, I'd try rerunning LILO to get things
back in order, but I'm afraid I'm not going to get that far.  Any
suggestions?  How can I tell if I've got a real hardware problem? Knoppix?

Chris

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Re: Exim4, Clamav, SA-Exim, (was Re: SWEN isn't slowing down)

[Steve Lamb]

On Wed, 8 Oct 2003 22:48:54 -0700
Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yup, I found it.  I like how KDE 3.2 finally has some kpdf
> integration.
 
> Question, though:  Where do you get exiscan in debian form for exim4?

It is compiled into exim4-daemon-heavy so just install that package.  I
think I had read somewhere that Andreas might eventually include exiscan-acl
into exim4-daemon-light.  I may be wrong on that regard.  Personally after
Swen and SoBig running -heavy with all its unused features is far preferable
to having those additional messages in my users' inboxes.

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Grub, need to change fstab?

[J Y]

Hi,
I've been messing with grub without accomplishing much, accept an
occasional kernel panic, error fs not found 
 and an hour or more rescuing my system.  I let grub do most of the work
on the configuration that follows 
 and it actually boots debian, with the SuSE kernel!!!  Damn I think
I understand that since it plugged in the only  
drive/partition it sees. I'm thinking that I need to add my other drive
/dev/hdb and its partitions to fstab. BUT altering 
fstab can be fatal to the os, I've learned the hard way, so how would I
do that? Thanks 
Oh and I have had the correct partitions listed in grub/menu.1st, but it
can't find the filesystem(s) on hdb. 
 
gfxmenu (hd0,4)/message 
color white/blue black/light-gray 
default 0 
timeout 8 
 
title linux 
kernel (hd0,4)/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda7   vga=791 
initrd (hd0,4)/initrd 
 
title floppy 
root (fd0) 
chainloader +1 
 
title failsafe 
kernel (hd0,4)/vmlinuz.shipped root=/dev/hda7 ide=nodma apm=off
acpi=off vga=normal nosmp maxcpus=0 disableapic 3 
initrd (hd0,4)/initrd.shipped 
 
title windows_me 
root (hd0) 
chainloader +1 
makeactive 
 
title debian3.0 
kernel (hd0,4)/vmlinuz root=/dev/hdb5 
 
title slackware9.0 
kernel (hd0,4)/vmlinuz root=/dev/hdb2 


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Re: Convert realaudio to free audio ???

[Michael D Schleif]

Ryan Nowakowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003:10:09:00:47:57-0500] scribed:
> On Wed, Oct 08, 2003 at 10:22:40PM -0500, Michael D Schleif wrote:
> > I am constantly receiving realaudio files, and I want to listen to them;
> > but, I do not want to install non-free programs on my system.
> > 
> > Is there some way to convert these audio files to some other format,
> > preferably by CLI?
> 
> Check out vsound.

Cool -- but, it still requires realplayer, which is what I am avoiding
;<

Other ideas?

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Running 'Jigdo' question

[Stephen Liu]

Hi all folks,

Just join this list

1)
I encountered problem to download all jigdo files, templates including 
md5sum, etc. collectively with 'jigdo-lite' command as follow;

$ jigdo-lite

Jigsaw Download "lite"
Copyright 2001-2003 by Richard Atterer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Loading settings from `/home/satimis/.jigdo-lite'
Getting mirror information from /etc/apt/sources.list
-
To resume a half-finished download, enter name of .jigdo file.
To start a new download, enter URL of .jigdo file.
You can also enter several URLs/filenames, separated with spaces,
or enumerate in {}, e.g. `http://server/cd-{1_NONUS,2,3}.jigdo'
jigdo [http://us.cdimage.debian.org/jigdo-...0_r1/jigdo/i386 
]:

I tried many combinations such as

a) just hit 'ENTER'
b) entered "http://us.cdimage.debian.org/jigdo-area/3.0_r1/jigdo/i386/* 
plus ENTER
c) entered
"http://us.cdimage.debian.org/jigdo-area/3.0_r1/jigdo/i386/woody* plus ENTER

etc.

The final outcome was;
...

Continued download failed on this file, which conflicts with `-c'.
Refusing to truncate existing file `index.html'.
File `i386' does not exist!

2)
I can download all jigdo files, templates, md5sum, etc. separately but I 
doubt whether it is the correct way.

3)
I also tried
$ jidgo
to start the 'jigsaw download' window to proceed, but only 'index.html' 
downloaded

4) In using 'jigdo-lite' command
Where will the download files stored.
Please advise.

Thank in advance.

B.R.
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Re: Exim4, Clamav, SA-Exim, (was Re: SWEN isn't slowing down)

[Paul Johnson]

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On Wed, Oct 08, 2003 at 08:14:34AM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote:
> > Close enough.  Got a howto?
> 
> I found a pretty good how-to on-line with Google.  Search on "exiscan-acl
> clamav pdf".  It should be the 2nd link.

Yup, I found it.  I like how KDE 3.2 finally has some kpdf
integration.

Question, though:  Where do you get exiscan in debian form for exim4?

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Re: Convert realaudio to free audio ???

[Ryan Nowakowski]

Check out vsound.

On Wed, Oct 08, 2003 at 10:22:40PM -0500, Michael D Schleif wrote:
> I am constantly receiving realaudio files, and I want to listen to them;
> but, I do not want to install non-free programs on my system.
> 
> Is there some way to convert these audio files to some other format,
> preferably by CLI?



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To be safe don't use shift key...

[moseley]

...or else the riaa might sue you.

http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/ptech/10/08/bmg.protection.reut/index.html



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Re: Ruby support problems

[W. Crowshaw]

On Wed, Oct 08, 2003 at 09:07:45AM -0400, Peter S Galbraith wrote:
> 
> Yes.  Have you read the on-list replies as well?
> 
> >   I'm not
> > sure what you are referring to when you say "mode
> > line." In Xemacs, there is a line below the buffer,
> > actually a raised ridge that says
> > ISO8XEmacs: myrubfile.rb  (Ruby) Top
> > 
> > The "(Ruby)" indicates to me that it at least knows
> > that its a ruby file. Is that what you are referring
> > to as a "modeline." 
> 
> Yes.
> 
> >  Otherwise, there is no other
> > indication that it knows what to do with this ruby
> > file: no syntax highlighting 
> 
> Menu -> Options -> Syntax Highlighting
> 
>  choose automatic, colors, most.
> 
> Menu -> Options -> Save options

This works.  Thanks for the tip!

> 
> >  and I can't debug ruby
> > file in the emacs editor (which should be allow from
> > the ruby-elisp package).
> 
> I don't know about that.  But `C-h m' says that the key `C-c C-s'
> invokes `run-ruby'.
> 
> Peter

No prob if you don't know.  I'm half-way there.
Gonna have to ask the ruby-lists to see if debugging
actually work.  Incidentally, the ruby debugger
always say emacs debugging supported when you start
the debugger on the command line.  I just haven't
seen it live up to these expectations.

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Re: Suggestions for Organization's documents

[Paul Johnson]

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On Wed, Oct 08, 2003 at 09:35:12PM +0100, Tom Badran wrote:
> LyX is very good, and the QT interface for it is very nice.

It would be nice if KOffice did TeX.  You'd think it would be the
obvious format choice.  KOffice is lighter weight, faster, and more
consistantly reliable than OOo.  I believe this is because OOo tries
to make the same mistakes as in the Windows world by not using
existing tools to impliment really, really basic things like spell
checking, etc.

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Re: Suggestions for Organization's documents

[Paul Johnson]

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On Wed, Oct 08, 2003 at 07:28:02PM +, Monique Y. Herman wrote:
> I believe there are WYSIWYG editors for laTeX (or however you capitalize
> it.)  I don't recall their names offhand, though.

LaTeX, TeTeX, CrApTeX...they're all StUdLyCaPeD.

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Re: install debian in SATA

[Roberto Sanchez]

Ron Johnson wrote:
On Wed, 2003-10-08 at 17:35, Attila Csosz wrote:

Hi,

Is it possible to install debian from scratch in an SATA winchester? How?


If bf2.4 used kernel 2.4.22, I bet it would work, but I don't think
that 2.4.17 knows enough about SATA.
This might help.  I used it to install Woody on a box with a Promise
RAID.  It is specifically geared toward the Promise RAID, but the
concept is basically the same, the difference being that you build
the custom kernel with support for your SATA device.
http://ttul.org/~rrsadler/linux-promise/

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Re: Suggestions for Organization's documents

[Paul Johnson]

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On Wed, Oct 08, 2003 at 12:08:12PM -0700, Stephen A. Witt wrote:
> LaTeX would
> probably only work for you if you had some guru type person who set up
> templates that the other people could use so they didn't have to become
> too knowledgeable about LaTeX.

Why, when there's Lyx?

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Re: changing permissions of files in directories

[kmark]

On Wed, 8 Oct 2003, Colin Watson wrote:

> On Wed, Oct 08, 2003 at 10:04:01AM +, Adam wrote:
> > On Wednesday 08 October 2003 08:00, Lukas Ruf wrote:
> > > find  -type f | xargs chmod 0644
> >
> > I would have come up with
> >
> > find PATH -type f -exec chmod 0644 '{}' ';'
> >
> > Is the version with xargs better, and how?
>
> The version with xargs is much better: it runs a single instance of
> chmod with all the files (or as many as will fit) as arguments, rather
> than running a separate instance of chmod for every file.
>
> The downside is that you can only use xargs this way for programs that
> let you specify an arbitrary number of filenames lasting up to the end
> of the command line. Fortunately, most command-line Unix utilities
> behave this way or can be made to behave this way.
>

Although it may use more processes, I use this format for many situations:
 | while read line; do
statements
done

so,

find PATH -type f | while read line; do
chmod 0644 $line;
done

Cheers,
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Re: Exim4, Clamav, SA-Exim,

[moseley]

On Wed, Oct 08, 2003 at 08:36:26PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 08, 2003 at 04:36:36PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > How would I install exim4 .deb on woody for testing (i.e. without 
> > replacing the current exim package)?
> 
> You don't.  They're mutually exclusive.

So to test either use a spare box or build from source.  I wonder if
un-archiving the exim4 deb and running the binary from there would work
-- would need to pass in the config file but I wonder if there's any
other compiled in settings that would be a problem.

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Re: two ethernet ports on one PCI NIC?

[Mark Devin]

Chris Evans wrote:
I run a small postfix/ecartis Email list service (double opt in) for 
some charities.  My firewall is due to be replaced and I'd like to go 
for one of these new tiny, very quiet boxes since the old things I've 
got do create a great racket in my study and take up space.  All the 
tiny boxes I'm considering have one ethernet port on the motherboard 
but only one PCI slot.  Anyone know of a reliable dual ethernet NIC 
for PCI that has linux drivers (Debian tested ideally)?

The D-Link DFE-580TX has 4 10/100 ports and there are drivers for it in 
the linux kernel.
http://www.dlink.com.au/products/adapters/dfe580tx/

I haven't personally used one but I nearly bought one some months ago 
for exactly the reasons you mentioned above.  In the end I went with a 
Mini-ITX (Epia 500) computer and just put one extra nic in it (realtek) 
and made do with only 2 ethernet interfaces.

By the way, I can recommend the Epia 500.  Fanless, quiet, and low power 
consumption meant that I could get away with a much smaller UPS.  The 
fact that it is only 500Mhz doesn't hurt me since the bottleneck is my 
512/512 Kbs DSL link.

Regards.
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spamassassin vs. html emails

[Will Trillich]

i get a LOT of spam that slips thru spamassassin --

it's multipart/alternative, but the only alternative is html,
which i would hope would get a positive hit under "html-only
email" test.

the end of all the headers looks thus:

Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
boundary="D6BF60FCF.6"
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=4.0 tests= version=2.20
X-Spam-Level: 
Status: RO
Content-Length: 3537
Lines: 99

Content-Type: text/html;
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

[-- text/html is unsupported (use 'v' to view this part) --]

and everything else is html.

note ZERO hits! i've got

# grep -i html *scores*
50_scores.cf:score CTYPE_JUST_HTML3.154
50_scores.cf:score HTML_EMBEDS0.265
50_scores.cf:score HTML_WITH_BGCOLOR  -0.546
50_scores.cf:score UNNEEDED_HTML_ENCODING 2.183
50_scores.cf:score EGP_HTML_BANNER-6.0

i've looked at man spamassassin and Mail::SpamAssassin::Conf and
there's not a lot there about the individual rules and what they
do. spamassassin.org/tests.html tells what the default scores
are, but not where to go to turn on/turn off/create new tests...

so i'm wondering where to look on how to create new tests.
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Would you like to DISABLE CONTROL-ALT-DEL? Piece of cake.
Just comment the line out in /etc/inittab
# What to do when CTRL-ALT-DEL is pressed.
ca:12345:ctrlaltdel:/sbin/shutdown -t1 -a -r now
and then "kill -HUP 1" to have init re-read the file.

Also see http://newbieDoc.sourceForge.net/ ...


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Re: How to secure access to WLAN?

[Paul Johnson]

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> Another exception I have thought about is to 
> limit the outwards bandwidth on port 25 so that pumping large amounts 
> of e-mail is infeasible, just in case anybody who is connecting has a 
> virus. 

A better idea here would be to redirect everything outbound on 25 from
the WLAN to your own MTA, and scan for viruses there.  Best way to
handle this, IMO, is drop viruses silently without trying to notify
anyone other than you, so you can go track them down yourself.

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Re: Exim4, Clamav, SA-Exim,

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You don't.  They're mutually exclusive.

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Re: Suggestions for Organization's documents

[Sridhar M.A.]

On Thu, Oct 09, 2003 at 01:32:43AM +0100, Pigeon wrote:
   > On Wed, Oct 08, 2003 at 10:33:31PM +0200, JG wrote:
   > > 
   > > So you could try Lyx (available in woody/contrib, or
   > > testing/unstable/main), which "is an almost WYSIWYG-frontend for LaTeX
   > > that runs under the X Window System". 
   > 
   > Inspired by your post, I downloaded and installed
   > lyx_1.1.6fix4-2_i386.deb,... 

Why not try texmacs? It is also a sort of frontend for LaTeX. 

If you like bluefish (or similar ones) to create html docs, then try
ktexmaker2/kile. 

Personally the best thing for writing LaTeX docs is vim/emacs :-)

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Convert realaudio to free audio ???

[Michael D Schleif]

I am constantly receiving realaudio files, and I want to listen to them;
but, I do not want to install non-free programs on my system.

Is there some way to convert these audio files to some other format,
preferably by CLI?

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Re: install debian in SATA

[Ron Johnson]

On Wed, 2003-10-08 at 17:35, Attila Csosz wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Is it possible to install debian from scratch in an SATA winchester? How?

If bf2.4 used kernel 2.4.22, I bet it would work, but I don't think
that 2.4.17 knows enough about SATA.

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Re: Suggestions for Organization's documents

[Ron Johnson]

On Wed, 2003-10-08 at 11:14, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I work with a very small non-profit and over the years they have been
> keeping documents in various formats (most often MS Word or
> WordPerfect).  From these documents they generate printed booklets (so
> postscript output good), and the documents are also available on-line in
> HTML (to fit their existing web site) and as PDF.
> 
> I'd like to move to text-based documents so we are not dependent on a 
> specific product (like Word).  So I'm looking for suggestions.
> 
> The people that create and manage these documents come and go (twice a 
> year people change at the organization).  So I'm looking for something 
> with an easy learning curve.  HTML is an options because everyone these 
> days seems to have a bit of HTML experience.  The other advantage of 
> HTML is that people can typically view them on their local machine.
> 
> MS Word is nice that most seem to have it and it has reasonably good
> formatting (for wrapping text around images and so on) but the
> translation to HTML is horrible -- it won't generate HTML that they can
> use directly with their web site (which use style sheets and a
> templating system).  Not to mention it's not an Open Source solution.
> 
> So, I'm looking for something where the documents are easily edited, 
> there's *not much of a learning curve* for editing the text, and tools 
> exist for multiple platforms for generating ps or pdf output for preview 
> locally.  And easy translation to HTML to fit our site.  XSLT?? DocBook?  
> LaTeX?

The problem with using HTML is this case is that html was not designed
with this in mind.

A desktop publishing solution (kword & scribus come to mind) is the
best solution, and since they are OSS, the data files aren't locked.

Still, I'd go with OpenOffice 1.1, because:
- it's most like Word (minimizes training)
- is cross-platform
- can export as PDF
- the data file is zipped XML text, and thus can be parsed by Perl,
  Python, Mozilla(?), etc.

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Re: Suggestions for Organization's documents

[Ron Johnson]

On Wed, 2003-10-08 at 14:37, Stephen Patterson wrote:
> On Wed, 08 Oct 2003 21:20:16 +0200, Stephen A. Witt wrote:
> > Another option might be OpenOffice. Essentially its Word without the
> > proprietary-ness of Word.
> 
> And these days, it even has a 'direct to pdf' exporter.

All of the modules can export to PDF.  The Impress module can
also export to Flash (.swf), SVG & html formats.

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Re: Best Nics.

[Mike Mueller]

On Wednesday 08 October 2003 18:29, Edward Murrell wrote:
> On Thu, 2003-10-09 at 01:56, David Palmer. wrote:
> > But as all of this is going to applied later in a commercial
> > environment, I was wondering if anybody would be able to advise as to a
> > decent make of commercial standard Nics.
>
> First off, avoid anything with a realtek chipset. That should avoid 90%
> of problems.
>
> Depending on the price performance ratio, I've found CNet PRO 200s to be
> good at the cheap end (Davicom chipset - dmfe driver). I have three of
> these in one of my routers, which has been running nonstop for a good
> three years now. They handle medium amounts of traffic fairly well, but
> I wouldn't use them in my main server, where high CPU usage could impact
> their performance.
>
> If you need good 100mbps performance under load, you can't go wrong with
> Intel. The 3Com 3c905Bs I use in my workstations also seem to take
> anything I can throw at them (including trying to run Q3A X11/OpenGL
> over a network, just to see if I could ;).
>
> DEC Tulips (if you can find them) in my experiance are picky. When they
> work, they work brilliantly, but I've always had major issues with full
> duplex settings, and getting them to not kill the interface when the
> cable is unplugged (which also does fun things like stop the DHCP
> server).
>
> Edward

Here's a link that supports what's said here (http://www.fefe.de/linuxeth/).  
I especially like the link within the page that points to detailed 
description of why Realtek is much hated.  I have too many Realteks. I bought 
them in an attempt to build the world's cheapest servers.  I don't stress the 
NICs very hard so they chug along.  They are CPU cycle theives however and 
that directly affects what I am trying to do.  They will get replaced when I 
get back to performance analysis.

If you are trying to build a cheap workstation then the Realtek NIC can save 
you a _few_ monetary units.  Keep in mind that everytime you ask for help 
with those NICs you'll get chastised.  IIRC, in the .config for the kernel 
the rtl drivers are suppressed as options unless you choose:

#
# Code maturity level options
#
CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL=y

How's that for a subtle message from the kernel wizards?

Realtek is _real_ cheap.  But if you bang your head on them from functional 
problems and they rob you of performance even when they are working 
satisfactorily, the savings are questionable.
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Re: Suggestions for Organization's documents

[Pigeon]

On Wed, Oct 08, 2003 at 10:33:31PM +0200, JG wrote:
> 
> So you could try Lyx (available in woody/contrib, or
> testing/unstable/main), which "is an almost WYSIWYG-frontend for LaTeX
> that runs under the X Window System". 

Inspired by your post, I downloaded and installed
lyx_1.1.6fix4-2_i386.deb, along with libforms0.89_0.89-12_i386.deb. I
had to --force-depends it as I don't have xlib6g installed, though I
do have xlibs and libxaw6. Right out of the box, it has a problem:
certain characters don't display in equations, whether mine or in the
help file. The FAQ and list of known bugs don't seem to mention this.
For example, in the attached file, the = and the superscript 2 don't
show up - they're there on the output, but invisible in the editor.

I'm using the 4.3.0-0ds2.0.0woody1 backport of X 4.3.0. Are there any
known problems with this combination?

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\secnumdepth 3
\tocdepth 3
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Re: man dangling symlink question

[Michael D Schleif]

"Monique Y. Herman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003:10:08:16:41:21+] scribed:
> Cron keeps yapping at me, so I investigate and find the following:
> 
> home:~# ls -l  /usr/share/man/man1/tixindex.1.gz
> lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   31 Sep 21 10:12 
> /usr/share/man/man1/tixindex.1.gz -> /etc/alternatives/tixindex.1.gz
> home:~# ls -l /etc/alternatives/tixindex.1.gz
> lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   36 Sep 26 19:56 
> /etc/alternatives/tixindex.1.gz -> /usr/share/man/man1/tixindex8.1.1.gz
> home:~# ls /usr/share/man/man1/tix*
> /usr/share/man/man1/tixindex.1.gz@  /usr/share/man/man1/tixwish8.1.1.gz
> /usr/share/man/man1/tixwish.1.gz@
> 
> My question: what exactly is tixindex an alternative *for*?  Am I safe
> just blowing away both those symlinks?

First of all, a dangling symlink is at best useless, and at worst
dangerous.  As it is, it contributes _nothing_ of value to your system;
so, deleting it adds value.

Second, if you really need it, you need to find out from which package
it comes:

   dpkg -S /usr/share/man/man1/tixindex.1.gz

Either reinstall that package, or contact its maintainer to correct the
erroneous link.

It seems endemic that many package changes are ignorant of that dark
corner of dpkg package that is /usr/sbin/update-alternatives -- why is
that?

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Going crazy with sound. No soundcore.o in kernel-source.2.4.21 distributed in SID

[A R]

After "updatedb"

hpd:~# locate soundcore
/lib/modules/2.4.20-bf2.4/kernel/drivers/sound/soundcore.o
/usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.18/drivers/sound/soundcore.o
/usr/src/modules/alsa-driver/utils/patches/soundcore.2.4.20.patch
/usr/src/modules/alsa-driver/utils/patches/soundcore.2.4.patch
hpd:~# uname -a
Linux hpd 2.4.21 #1 Wed Oct 8 17:00:00 EDT 2003 i686
GNU/Linux
hpd:~# ls /usr/src
alsa-driver.tar 
kernel-source-2.4.18
alsa-modules-2.4.21_0.9.6-5+custom.3.0_i386.deb 
kernel-source-2.4.18.tar
fglrx_panel_sources.tgz 
kernel-source-2.4.21
fglrx_sample_source.tgz 
kernel-source-2.4.21.tar
kernel-image-2.4.21_10.00.Custom_i386.deb   
kernel-source-2.4.22.tar.bz2
kernel-image-2.4.21_custom.1.0_i386.deb 
kernel-source-2.5.69.tar.bz2
kernel-image-2.4.21_custom.2.0_i386.deb 
modules
kernel-image-2.4.21_custom.3.0_i386.deb  rpm
kernel-source-2.2.20.tar
hpd:~#
Final output of dmesg:

usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout
usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout
Creative EMU10K1 PCI Audio Driver, version 0.20a,
17:59:20 Oct  8 2003
emu10k1: Audigy rev 3 model 0x0040 found, IO at
0xb000-0xb01f, IRQ 23
ac97_codec: AC97 Audio codec, id: 0x8384:0x7609
(SigmaTel STAC9721/23)
Creative EMU10K1 PCI Audio Driver, version 0.20a,
17:59:20 Oct  8 2003
emu10k1: Audigy rev 3 model 0x0040 found, IO at
0xb000-0xb01f, IRQ 23
ac97_codec: AC97 Audio codec, id: 0x8384:0x7609
(SigmaTel STAC9721/23)
Creative EMU10K1 PCI Audio Driver, version 0.20a,
17:59:20 Oct  8 2003
emu10k1: Audigy rev 3 model 0x0040 found, IO at
0xb000-0xb01f, IRQ 23
ac97_codec: AC97 Audio codec, id: 0x8384:0x7609
(SigmaTel STAC9721/23)
hpd:~#

This emu10k1 appeared there after I installed the
driver from the sourceforge.net site. Before that,
nothing.

When I compiled my kernel image, I made sure that
soundcore was selected. However, I can't find it!

hpd:~# insmod -p -v soundcore
xftw starting at /lib/modules/boot lstat on
/lib/modules/boot failed
xftw starting at /lib/modules/2.4.21
xftw_readdir /lib/modules/2.4.21
pruned build
pruned modules.dep
pruned modules.generic_string
pruned modules.ieee1394map
pruned modules.isapnpmap
pruned modules.parportmap
pruned modules.pcimap
pruned modules.pnpbiosmap
pruned modules.usbmap
type 2 /lib/modules/2.4.21/kernel
xftw_readdir /lib/modules/2.4.21/kernel
user function /lib/modules/2.4.21/kernel
type 2 /lib/modules/2.4.21/kernel/drivers
xftw_readdir /lib/modules/2.4.21/kernel/drivers
user function /lib/modules/2.4.21/kernel/drivers
type 2 /lib/modules/2.4.21/kernel/drivers/block
xftw_readdir /lib/modules/2.4.21/kernel/drivers/block
user function /lib/modules/2.4.21/kernel/drivers/block
type 2 /lib/modules/2.4.21/kernel/drivers/block/paride
xftw_readdir
/lib/modules/2.4.21/kernel/drivers/block/paride
user function
/lib/modules/2.4.21/kernel/drivers/block/paride
user function
/lib/modules/2.4.21/kernel/drivers/block/paride/paride.o
user function
/lib/modules/2.4.21/kernel/drivers/block/paride/pd.o
type 2 /lib/modules/2.4.21/kernel/drivers/char
xftw_readdir /lib/modules/2.4.21/kernel/drivers/char
user function /lib/modules/2.4.21/kernel/drivers/char
user function
/lib/modules/2.4.21/kernel/drivers/char/ppdev.o
type 2 /lib/modules/2.4.21/kernel/drivers/input
xftw_readdir /lib/modules/2.4.21/kernel/drivers/input
user function /lib/modules/2.4.21/kernel/drivers/input
user function
/lib/modules/2.4.21/kernel/drivers/input/evdev.o
user function
/lib/modules/2.4.21/kernel/drivers/input/joydev.o
user function
/lib/modules/2.4.21/kernel/drivers/input/keybdev.o
user function
/lib/modules/2.4.21/kernel/drivers/input/mousedev.o
type 2 /lib/modules/2.4.21/kernel/drivers/message
xftw_readdir
/lib/modules/2.4.21/kernel/drivers/message
user function
/lib/modules/2.4.21/kernel/drivers/message
type 2 /lib/modules/2.4.21/kernel/drivers/message/i2o
xftw_readdir
/lib/modules/2.4.21/kernel/drivers/message/i2o
user function
/lib/modules/2.4.21/kernel/drivers/message/i2o
user function
/lib/modules/2.4.21/kernel/drivers/message/i2o/i2o_proc.o
type 2 /lib/modules/2.4.21/kernel/drivers/mtd
xftw_readdir /lib/modules/2.4.21/kernel/drivers/mtd
user function /lib/modules/2.4.21/kernel/drivers/mtd
type 2 /lib/modules/2.4.21/kernel/drivers/mtd/chips
xftw_readdir
/lib/modules/2.4.21/kernel/drivers/mtd/chips
user function
/lib/modules/2.4.21/kernel/drivers/mtd/chips
user function
/lib/modules/2.4.21/kernel/drivers/mtd/chips/cfi_cmdset_0001.o
user function
/lib/modules/2.4.21/kernel/drivers/mtd/chips/cfi_cmdset_0002.o
user function
/lib/modules/2.4.21/kernel/drivers/mtd/chips/cfi_cmdset_0020.o
user function
/lib/modules/2.4.21/kernel/drivers/mtd/chips/cfi_probe.o
user function
/lib/modules/2.4.21/kernel/drivers/mtd/chips/gen_probe.o
user function
/lib/modules/2.4.21/kernel/drivers/mtd/chips/map_ram.o
user function
/lib/modules/2.4.21/kernel/drivers/mtd/chips/map_rom.o
user function
/lib/modules/2.4.21/kernel/drivers/mtd/ftl.o
type 2 /lib/modules/2.4.21/kernel/drivers/mtd/maps
x

Re: Sound Server + Grub vs lilo?

[Jerome R. Acks]

On Tue, Oct 07, 2003 at 09:49:04AM -0800, J Y wrote:
> Hi, I get this message when logging into my account & in the root
> account also. "error while initializing the sounddriver /dev/dsp can't
> be opened (permission denied) The sound server will continue using the

Permission denied often means you need to add the user to group audio.

> null output device. From the kde menu clicking on information > sound
> brings up this message: "There was an error loading the module the
> diagnostics is:"
> No diagnostics are provided. 
> PCI Info gives: 00:07.5 Multimedia audio controller:,
> VIA technologies, Inc. AC97 AudioController (rev50)
> Subsystem: VIA Technologies. Inc Unknown device 4511

What is you chipset and what sound modules are you loading?

> flags: medium devsel, IRQ 11
> I/O ports at 9c00 (size=256)
> I/0 ports at a000 (size=4)
> I/O ports at a400 (size=4)
> 
> Also although I have followed the grub help, man pages and advice here I
> still cannot get debian or slackware to boot from the grub floppy. I
> almost always get an "error 15 file or filesystem not found" I haven't
> installed grub to the MBR because I wanted to be sure I could boot
> everything from it and I can't. I can boot SuSE and windoze. Also
> entering grub from the command line and doing "root (" didn't get me
> disks/disk info. Would lilo be easier to set-up? Debian is on hdb5 a

Assuming the kernel you want to boot is "/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.16-386" and
/boot is a separate partition, run 

grub> find /vmlinuz-2.4.16-386

to determine the root device. If /boot is not a separate partition, try:

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Re: Ugly PDF display: libXft.so.1 vs. libXft.so.2 / Freetype

[Marc Wilson]

On Wed, Oct 08, 2003 at 03:43:13PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I've been wondering why Xpdf's display looks so bad compared to 
> mozilla's display of web pages.  

What you see in Mozilla is usually optimized for the screen... what you see
in a PDF isn't.  Xpdf by default is going to try and make things 72 dpi,
which may work with what it's going to display, and may not.

Further, Mozilla is going to be preferring TrueType's by default, while
xpdf is more than likely trying to use Type1's.

Unless you can point *at the same font* (not the same name, the same font),
in both xpdf and Mozilla, and choose one, there's no basis to make a
comparison.

If you play with the -t1lib option in xpdf, and the rendering of the
displayed font changes, then it's preferring Type1's.  At least for that
particular PDF, of course.

> - If Xpdf was instead using libXft.so.2 would I see an improvement in
> font rendering?

Possible but not likely.
 
> - Is the issue described at http://www.freetype.org/patents.html a
> factor?  That is, would enabling the "TrueType bytecode interpreter" in
> FreeType2 improve fonts for my libXft.so.2 linked programs much?

I believe Debian's libfreetype has the interpreter enabled, although this
has gone back and forth several times.

> - Or, is one of the problems the fonts selected in the PDF file just are 
> not that great?  

Ah, got it in one.

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Real Producer seg fault in unstable

[Antony Gelberg]

Hi all,

I have an odd issuer since upgrading to unstable.  I DJ on a radio
station that has a Real Networks server (worse luck!), hence I use Real
/ Helix Producer to broadcast my show.

However, it is now segfaulting:

antgel $ producer -ac /dev/dsp0 -o /tmp/tmp.rm
Helix(TM) Producer Basic 9.0.1 from RealNetworks(R). Build number:
9.0.1.250
Initializing  Errors: 0 Warnings: 0Segmentation fault

It used to work like a dream and is especially odd as I haven't upgraded
my kernel or modules.

The emu10k1 module is loaded and happy.

Whilst I'm not expecting anyone here to have tried this software, I'd
like to know if anyone has any ideas for debugging something like this.

If anyone is really feeling helpful, the binary can be downloaded from:
http://forms.real.com/rnforms/products/tools/producerbasic/  :)

A


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Re: Exim4, Clamav, SA-Exim,

[moseley]

On Wed, Oct 08, 2003 at 01:25:55AM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 07, 2003 at 04:46:48PM -0700, Jeremy Brooks wrote:
> > Is there a package of exim 4 for woody?  My smtp server is woody, and I
> > really have no desire to upgrade it to a more recent distro.
> 
> Have you searched apt-get.org yet?

I must be missing something as I've never been able to "search" 
apt-get.org.  http://www.apt-get.org/search.php

   exim
   exim.*

How would I install exim4 .deb on woody for testing (i.e. without 
replacing the current exim package)?


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Re: Repartitioning questions

[Kent West]

Tom wrote:

Hey ho,

Due to some bad initial partitioning scheme, I'm now stuck with WinXP on 
C: (/dev/hda1) and a FAT32-partition on /dev/hda2. Then comes Debian, 
installed on some logical partitions.

I would like to shrink the FAT-partition (which is way too big), and - 
of course - regain the freed space for Debian. For some reason or 
another, I think it's not quite possible to do just that.
 

If the FAT partition is defragged so there's not any files on the back 
end, you can use a tool like fips to non-destructively shrink the 
partition, thereby creating a new partition between it and your logical 
Debian partitions.

Or you could copy the files off the FAT partition onto your WinXP 
partition, and then fdisk the second partition only however you'd like.

Which is why I figured it might be easier to just back up as much as 
possible, repartition, and then copy the backups to where they came 
from.

My question being: is it possible to just copy whole directory trees and 
put them back afterwards? I know that's not a problem at all with /home 
or /etc, but can I do the same with /var or /usr? Will everything still 
properly function afterwards (like, for example, dpkg & apt)? Or is it 
just a master plan to reach chaos, panic and disorder?
 

Yes, it is possible, as long as you do it carefully and preserve the 
permissions, etc. You could just tar up the directories, move the tar 
files, repartition, then untar the tar files to their new locations.

Thanks in advance for any encouraging words. Or warnings, for that 
matter.
 

Backup backup backup if your data is important to you.

Greets,
Tom
 



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Re: Spamassassin

[ScruLoose]

On Wed, Oct 08, 2003 at 08:50:04AM +0200, Stephan Seitz wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> On Wed, Oct 08, 2003 at 12:40:33AM +0200, Nicos Gollan wrote:
> >You need to bootstrap the bayesian filter with at least 250 spam and 
> 
> Is there a download possibility to get so much spam mails? Since I 
> delete my spam, I don't have enough mails to train spamassassin.

As mentioned, there are places you can download a corpus of spam, but
it's not recommended because your filters will work better if they're
trained on the spam _you_ receive.

Keep in mind that it's very easy and very safe to train SA as you go. If
you just create a spam folder now and start dumping all your spam into
it, then run sa-learn over it periodically then they'll get added to
your database.

While your database is below 250 spam and 250 spam, SA will just use its
'standard' filters.  As soon as you hit that minimum, the Bayesian is
enabled (assuming it's enabled in your config of course). Then as long
as you keep feeding it ham and spam it'll keep getting more accurate.

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Re: Howto not reject mail to Postmaster etc. in Exim4

[Philipp Weis]

On 08 Oct 2003, Kjetil Kjernsmo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> To make it pass if security or abuse is in, I could only extend accept 
> local_parts = postmaster to accept local_parts = 
> postmaster:abuse:security, right?

Right.

> It wouldn't be a problem in my other case either, with the spamtraps: If 
> one of the spamtraps are among the local_parts, I'll reject it anyway, 
> as none of the spamtraps will ever get legitimate mail. I would not 
> need to differentiate between users in either case.
> 
> However, this seems harder now, since, as you said, local_parts is not 
> available in DATA ACL... Would I need to set it up in the RCPT ACL 
> section to set a variable, and then test on that in the DATA ACL 
> section?

If I got you right, you want to deny all mail sent to a spamtrap
recipient. This should work exactly the same way as with postmaster.

Philipp


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Re: Repartitioning questions

[Monique Y. Herman]

On Wed, 8 Oct 2003 23:43:10 +0200, Tom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> penned:
> Hey ho,
> 
> Due to some bad initial partitioning scheme, I'm now stuck with WinXP
> on C: (/dev/hda1) and a FAT32-partition on /dev/hda2. Then comes
> Debian, installed on some logical partitions.
> 
> I would like to shrink the FAT-partition (which is way too big), and -
> of course - regain the freed space for Debian. For some reason or
> another, I think it's not quite possible to do just that.

It kind of depends, but resizing partitions is always slightly risky.

parted can do resizing in certain limited cases; you could buy
partitionmagic, but I personally have had it completely fubar my drive
once.

> Which is why I figured it might be easier to just back up as much as
> possible, repartition, and then copy the backups to where they came
> from.
> 
> My question being: is it possible to just copy whole directory trees
> and put them back afterwards? I know that's not a problem at all with
> /home or /etc, but can I do the same with /var or /usr? Will
> everything still properly function afterwards (like, for example, dpkg
> & apt)? Or is it just a master plan to reach chaos, panic and
> disorder?
> 

I'd be more concerned about Windows, which can have problems if certain
files aren't within the first X gigs (I don't remember what number X is;
maybe 8).  AFAIK this still wasn't fixed as of XP.

I can't imagine you having a problem with /var and /usr moving *as long
as* you're not using them at the time.  That means booting from another
disk (floppy, CD, other hard drive).  Single-user mode might work, too
-- I'm not sure.

Here are my personal notes for switching hard drives.  It's actually for
use when moving the contents of a smaller drive onto a larger drive, but
it may be helpful.


1.  Partition the new hard drive.  GNU's "parted" is pretty spiff.
http://www.gnu.org/software/parted/parted.html
http://www.gnu.org/manual/parted-1.6.1/html_mono/parted.html

2.  Boot using a linux floppy.  You don't want to deal with trying to
copy a system that's in motion.  Copy your stuff over.  Use "cp -a
orig/* new" to preserve symbolic links.

3.  Edit lilo.conf carefully.  All device values should be set to where
they *will* be after you boot, not to where they are now on the IDE
chain.  (Maybe the new drive is currently at /dev/hdc, but if it will be
on the first IDE slot in the finished state, set the value to /dev/hda.)
Set "boot" to the drive to which you'll be writing the MBR.  Set "root"
to the partition that will be set to "/".  Make sure that "image" points
to a file that will point to a real location and will be within the
first 2G of the drive.  (Not sure that is necessary, but why take
chances?)

If the new hard drive is not on the same spot on the IDE as it will be
when you're through, use the "-b" argument to lilo. (I.E., if your
lilo.conf says "boot=/dev/hda" but at the moment the new drive is on
/dev/hdc, use "lilo -b /dev/hdc" so that you don't clobber your old
drive.)

4.  Edit fstab carefully.  All device values should be set to where they
*will* be after you boot, not where they are now on the IDE chain.

5.  Mount the new root partition somewhere.  Mount any other partitions
that you will need for lilo (i.e., /etc and /boot) beneath it.  Run
"chroot /new_root /sbin/lilo" (if the drive isn't in the location
specified in "boot" of lilo.conf, use the "-b" argument).

6.  Reboot.  Make sure the new drive is in the place specified in fstab
and lilo.conf.

Errors:  If you get a lilo error, doublecheck "boot" and "root" in lilo.conf.

dd will cause the partition to think it's the size of the original
partition -- don't do this unless you're creating an identical copy on
an identical drive.


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Re: Suggestions for Organization's documents

[Nathan Michaels]

I highly reccomend Lyx.  It is a very easy to learn, intuitive, 
powerful editor that generates LaTeX output.  It can also export to 
HTML via latex2html, for which it has built in support.  I've also 
seen it say something about text output, but I can't vouch for that 
since I haven't used it.  Anyway, it sounds like Lyx fits your needs 
perfectly.

~Nathan

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Ugly PDF display: libXft.so.1 vs. libXft.so.2 / Freetype

[moseley]

This is on a Sid machine with X4.2.1.1

I've been wondering why Xpdf's display looks so bad compared to 
mozilla's display of web pages.  

I notice that Xpdf is linked against libXft.so.1, but Mozilla 1.4 is 
linked with libXft.so.2. 

Xpdf's display looks a lot like the example at:

  http://www.freetype.org/patents.html

Acrobat (acroread) isn't linked to libXft, but still has better looking 
fonts than Xpdf, but still not as good as Mozilla.

So, my questions are:

- If Xpdf was instead using libXft.so.2 would I see an improvement in
font rendering?

- Is the issue described at http://www.freetype.org/patents.html a
factor?  That is, would enabling the "TrueType bytecode interpreter" in
FreeType2 improve fonts for my libXft.so.2 linked programs much?

- Or, is one of the problems the fonts selected in the PDF file just are 
not that great?  







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install debian in SATA

[Attila Csosz]

Hi,

Is it possible to install debian from scratch in an SATA winchester? How?

Thanks
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Re: Best Nics.

[Edward Murrell]

On Thu, 2003-10-09 at 01:56, David Palmer. wrote:
> But as all of this is going to applied later in a commercial
> environment, I was wondering if anybody would be able to advise as to a
> decent make of commercial standard Nics.

First off, avoid anything with a realtek chipset. That should avoid 90%
of problems.

Depending on the price performance ratio, I've found CNet PRO 200s to be
good at the cheap end (Davicom chipset - dmfe driver). I have three of
these in one of my routers, which has been running nonstop for a good
three years now. They handle medium amounts of traffic fairly well, but
I wouldn't use them in my main server, where high CPU usage could impact
their performance.

If you need good 100mbps performance under load, you can't go wrong with
Intel. The 3Com 3c905Bs I use in my workstations also seem to take
anything I can throw at them (including trying to run Q3A X11/OpenGL
over a network, just to see if I could ;).

DEC Tulips (if you can find them) in my experiance are picky. When they
work, they work brilliantly, but I've always had major issues with full
duplex settings, and getting them to not kill the interface when the
cable is unplugged (which also does fun things like stop the DHCP
server).

Edward


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Re: How to secure access to WLAN?

[Tom]

On Wed, Oct 08, 2003 at 04:25:59PM +0200, Kjetil Kjernsmo wrote:
> On Tuesday 07 October 2003 19:57, Mariano Kamp wrote:
> It's in a not-very-densely populated area, 
> so if any of the neighbours would need some bandwidth, I'll just 
> monitor it to see if it gets out of the hand (it's like going over and 
> ask "can I borrow a cup of bandwidth, please?" :-) Neighbours should do 
> that for each other).

That's not what I'm concerned about.  What if a hacker somehow hacked 
your credit card info and made a whole bunch of purchases, and they come 
from your own IP!  Admiteddly, nobody is evil enough to think of hacks 
like this, but nobody was evil enough to fly a plane into a building for 
a long time.  Things have a way of approaching maximal nastiness.

I can think of 1000 other things J. Random Hacker could do damaging that 
I wouldn't want to appear to be coming from my house.



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two ethernet ports on one PCI NIC?

[Chris Evans]

I run a small postfix/ecartis Email list service (double opt in) for 
some charities.  My firewall is due to be replaced and I'd like to go 
for one of these new tiny, very quiet boxes since the old things I've 
got do create a great racket in my study and take up space.  All the 
tiny boxes I'm considering have one ethernet port on the motherboard 
but only one PCI slot.  Anyone know of a reliable dual ethernet NIC 
for PCI that has linux drivers (Debian tested ideally)?

TIA,

Chris
PSYCTC: Psychotherapy, Psychology, Psychiatry, Counselling
   and Therapeutic Communities; practice, research, 
   teaching and consultancy.
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Re: installing oracle9i

[Robert Kasunic]

Hi,

On Wed, Oct 08, 2003 at 11:54:49AM +0800, Louie Miranda wrote:
> but, when i tried running ./runInstaller on Disk1 it ask me for a DISPLAY so
> i just export a setting. And found out that Oracle must be run on a GUI?.
> 
> Hm, is there other solutions here?

there is a so called "silent" installation. Have a look at
www.oraclemagician.com/mag/magic1.pdf or your Oracle documentation.

HTH
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Re: Suggestions for Organization's documents

[Monique Y. Herman]

On Wed, 8 Oct 2003 21:35:12 +0100, Tom Badran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
penned:
> 
>> I also have heard that OO.org is working on Reveal Codes for their
>> next release -- which, if true, has me drooling.  That's the biggest
>> thing I miss about WordPerfect.
> 
> No idea what these are so cant comment ;)
> 

"Reveal codes" mode allowed you to to see exactly what "tags" WP was
using on your document, kind of like a "view source".  It was *really*
handy for debugging problems where you had too many nested formatting
commands and couldn't figure out why stuff wasn't displaying the way you
expected.

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Repartitioning questions

[Tom]

Hey ho,

Due to some bad initial partitioning scheme, I'm now stuck with WinXP on 
C: (/dev/hda1) and a FAT32-partition on /dev/hda2. Then comes Debian, 
installed on some logical partitions.

I would like to shrink the FAT-partition (which is way too big), and - 
of course - regain the freed space for Debian. For some reason or 
another, I think it's not quite possible to do just that.

Which is why I figured it might be easier to just back up as much as 
possible, repartition, and then copy the backups to where they came 
from.

My question being: is it possible to just copy whole directory trees and 
put them back afterwards? I know that's not a problem at all with /home 
or /etc, but can I do the same with /var or /usr? Will everything still 
properly function afterwards (like, for example, dpkg & apt)? Or is it 
just a master plan to reach chaos, panic and disorder?

Thanks in advance for any encouraging words. Or warnings, for that 
matter.

Greets,
Tom

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Re: Partitions and format

[Monique Y. Herman]

On Wed, 8 Oct 2003 20:40:53 +0200, Joachim Fahnenmueller
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> penned:
> 
> It shouldn't be necessary to reinstall. Worst case - ackup your data
> and reformat the partition. I think it is even possible to upgrade a
> partition from ext2 to ext3, but I don't know in detail.
> 

tune2fs -j 

You can add another option in there to turn off filesystem checks, but I
forget what it is exactly.

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hotmail refusing connections?

[Rudy Gevaert]

Hi,

I'm using postfix and logcheck reports the following

Oct  8 22:18:24 schamper postfix/smtp[15999]: connect to 
mx4.hotmail.com[65.54.254.151]: Connection refused (port 25)
Oct  8 22:18:24 schamper postfix/smtp[15999]: connect to 
mx2.hotmail.com[65.54.166.230]: Connection refused (port 25)
Oct  8 22:18:24 schamper postfix/smtp[15999]: connect to 
mx4.hotmail.com[65.54.254.151]: Connection refused (port 25)
Oct  8 22:18:24 schamper postfix/smtp[15999]: connect to 
mx2.hotmail.com[65.54.166.230]: Connection refused (port 25)
Oct  8 22:18:24 schamper postfix/smtp[15999]: connect to 
mx4.hotmail.com[65.54.254.151]: Connection refused (port 25)
Oct  8 22:18:24 schamper postfix/smtp[15999]: connect to 
mx2.hotmail.com[65.54.166.230]: Connection refused (port 25)
Oct  8 22:21:34 schamper postfix/smtp[15999]: connect to 
mx1.hotmail.com[65.54.166.99]: Connection refused (port 25)
Oct  8 22:21:34 schamper postfix/smtp[15999]: connect to mx3.hotmail.com[65.54.167.5]: 
Connection refused (port 25)
Oct  8 22:21:34 schamper postfix/smtp[15999]: connect to 
mx3.hotmail.com[65.54.253.99]: Connection refused (port 25)
Oct  8 22:21:34 schamper postfix/smtp[15999]: connect to 
mx4.hotmail.com[65.54.167.230]: Connection refused (port 25)
Oct  8 22:21:34 schamper postfix/smtp[15999]: connect to 
mx1.hotmail.com[65.54.252.99]: Connection refused (port 25)
Oct  8 22:21:34 schamper postfix/smtp[15999]: connect to 
mx1.hotmail.com[65.54.166.99]: Connection refused (port 25)
Oct  8 22:21:34 schamper postfix/smtp[15999]: connect to mx3.hotmail.com[65.54.167.5]: 
Connection refused (port 25)
Oct  8 22:21:34 schamper postfix/smtp[15999]: connect to 
mx3.hotmail.com[65.54.253.99]: Connection refused (port 25)
Oct  8 22:21:34 schamper postfix/smtp[15999]: connect to 
mx4.hotmail.com[65.54.167.230]: Connection refused (port 25)
Oct  8 22:21:34 schamper postfix/smtp[15999]: connect to 
mx1.hotmail.com[65.54.252.99]: Connection refused (port 25)
Oct  8 22:21:34 schamper postfix/smtp[15999]: connect to 
mx1.hotmail.com[65.54.166.99]: Connection refused (port 25)
Oct  8 22:21:34 schamper postfix/smtp[15999]: connect to mx3.hotmail.com[65.54.167.5]: 
Connection refused (port 25)
Oct  8 22:21:34 schamper postfix/smtp[15999]: connect to 
mx3.hotmail.com[65.54.253.99]: Connection refused (port 25)
Oct  8 22:21:34 schamper postfix/smtp[15999]: connect to 
mx4.hotmail.com[65.54.167.230]: Connection refused (port 25)
Oct  8 22:21:34 schamper postfix/smtp[15999]: connect to 
mx1.hotmail.com[65.54.252.99]: Connection refused (port 25)
Oct  8 22:21:35 schamper postfix/smtp[15999]: connect to 
mx4.hotmail.com[65.54.253.230]: Connection refused (port 25)
Oct  8 22:21:35 schamper postfix/smtp[15999]: connect to 
mx2.hotmail.com[65.54.254.145]: Connection refused (port 25)
Oct  8 22:21:35 schamper postfix/smtp[15999]: connect to 
mx4.hotmail.com[65.54.253.230]: Connection refused (port 25)
Oct  8 22:21:35 schamper postfix/smtp[15999]: connect to 
mx2.hotmail.com[65.54.254.145]: Connection refused (port 25)

Anybody else having this troubles too?



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Re: Swen

[Pigeon]

On Wed, Oct 08, 2003 at 10:54:33PM +0530, Sudeep Mukherjee wrote:
> Hi
> 
> I subscribed to this newsgroup a few days ago. As soon as I subscribed
> I started receiving a lot of email from Microsoft, all of which is the
> swen virus. I know this to be swen cause I use swedeleter to check my
> email account before downloading the email.

s/from/apparently from/

> So does this mean that some one on this list is affected by the virus?

No.

> What can be the possible explanation?

debian-user is crossposted to usenet. Swen scans usenet for email
addresses to send itself to. There's nothing you can do about it
except what you are doing. It's a bitch.

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Re: System refuses to load uhci instead of usb-uhci

[Greg Madden]

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On Wednesday 08 October 2003 12:31 pm, Lou Losee wrote:
> Hi, Currently on boot, my system is loading the usb-uhci module.  I
> am trying to change that to get it to load the uhci module instead. 
> I am running a custom 2.4.22 kernel if that matters.  I want uhci
> instead of usb-uhci based on the following output I get from a lspci
> -v | grep HCI command:
>
> 00:07.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 USB (rev 01)
> (prog-if 00 [UHCI]) 00:0b.0 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc.
> USB (rev 50) (prog-if 00 [UHCI]) 00:0b.1 USB Controller: VIA
> Technologies, Inc. USB (rev 50) (prog-if 00 [UHCI]) 00:0b.2 USB
> Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB 2.0 (rev 51) (prog-if 20
> [EHCI])
>
> Based on some input from the hpoj list, I added the following line to
> the aliases file in /etc/modutils and ran update-modules:
>
>   alias usb-controller uhci
>
> That did not work, usb-uhci still loaded after a power down and
> reboot (I was also told that a simple modprobe -r usb-uhci followed
> by a modprobe uhci would not work and to power down the system after
> changing) - shades of that *other* operating system.
>
> So, then based on information in the FAQ at linux-usb.org, I removed
> the previous line I added and added the following lines instead:
>
>   alias usb uhci
>   post-install uhci modprobe printer
>
> Again after running update-modules powering down and rebooting
> usb-uhci still gets loaded
>
> Help - any ideas on how to get this to work
>
> Lou Losee

You may need the USb 2.0 module. I used modconf to look at all the USB 
stuff, USB 2 module= ehci-hcd.

This may be in addition to the usb-uhci module, there are 3 or 4 USB 
modules that get loaded. 
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Re: [solved] System refuses to load uhci instead of usb-uhci

[Lou Losee]

Never mind ...
usb-uhci was in /etc/modules
Dooh!!!

Lou Losee
* Lou Losee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-10-08 17:12]:
> Hi, Currently on boot, my system is loading the usb-uhci module.  I am
> trying to change that to get it to load the uhci module instead.  I am
> running a custom 2.4.22 kernel if that matters.  I want uhci instead of
> usb-uhci based on the following output I get from a lspci -v | grep HCI
> command:
> 
> 00:07.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 USB (rev 01) (prog-if 00 
> [UHCI])
> 00:0b.0 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB (rev 50) (prog-if 00 [UHCI])
> 00:0b.1 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB (rev 50) (prog-if 00 [UHCI])
> 00:0b.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB 2.0 (rev 51) (prog-if 20 [EHCI])
> 
> Based on some input from the hpoj list, I added the following line to
> the aliases file in /etc/modutils and ran update-modules:
> 
>   alias usb-controller uhci
> 
> That did not work, usb-uhci still loaded after a power down and reboot
> (I was also told that a simple modprobe -r usb-uhci followed by a
> modprobe uhci would not work and to power down the system after
> changing) - shades of that *other* operating system.
> 
> So, then based on information in the FAQ at linux-usb.org, I removed the
> previous line I added and added the following lines instead:
> 
>   alias usb uhci
>   post-install uhci modprobe printer
> 
> Again after running update-modules powering down and rebooting usb-uhci
> still gets loaded
> 
> Help - any ideas on how to get this to work
> 
> Lou Losee
> 
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Re: Exim4, Clamav, SA-Exim,

[Kjetil Kjernsmo]

On Wednesday 08 October 2003 17:28, Steve Lamb wrote:
> > and modifies the Subject-line
> > to include *SPAM** rather than just add another one.
> > Any ideas on how to do this?
>
> To be honest, no.

Actually, I discovered at least how to rewrite the Subject line, it's in 
example 3 in 
http://duncanthrax.net/exiscan-acl/exiscan-acl-examples.txt
You need a system filter too. I haven't implemented it yet, though. This 
for the record for subsequent googlers. :-)

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Re: Howto not reject mail to Postmaster etc. in Exim4

[Kjetil Kjernsmo]

Thanks for the response!

On Wednesday 08 October 2003 21:23, Philipp Weis wrote:
> This is certainly true for postmaster, but I think it would be
> RFC-compliant to reject viruses and spam on abuse or security.

Yeah, I think so too. However, rejecting legitimate mail could be scary 
in either case, for example rejecting a spam complaint to abuse because 
it looks like spam (I imagine spam complaints are rarely 
distinguishable from spam...) is a Bad Idea[tm], though spam could 
never be sent from here. 

> > I'm wondering, how do I set up Exim 4 to let through mail to
> > postmaster, etc., uninspected?
> >
> > I thought these lines from
> >   accept local_parts = postmaster:abuse:security
> >  domains = +local_domains
> > from the standard Debian RCTP ACL config was supposed to do that,
> > but it doesn't...
>
> Well, it does. The recipients are accepted here, but the mail is
> rejected in the DATA ACL later on. 

OK.

>To accept all mail to postmaster
> regardless of their content, you have to set a variable in the RCPT
> ACL, because local_part is not available in the DATA ACL.

OK. 

> RCPT:
> accept local_parts = postmaster
>domains = +local_domains
>set acl_m0 = postmaster
>
> DATA:
> accept condition = ${if eq{$acl_m0}{postmaster} {1}{0}}

Aha, great, thanks!

> Now all mail to postmaster passes your filters. Messages with
> multiple recipients and postmaster among them pass as well, but that
> should not be a problem. 

Indeed, I've so far not seen spam sent to both postmaster and my user, 
so that it passes is quite OK. 

To make it pass if security or abuse is in, I could only extend accept 
local_parts = postmaster to accept local_parts = 
postmaster:abuse:security, right?

>See exiscan-acl-examples.txt.gz section 6
> for further details on multiple recipients.

It wouldn't be a problem in my other case either, with the spamtraps: If 
one of the spamtraps are among the local_parts, I'll reject it anyway, 
as none of the spamtraps will ever get legitimate mail. I would not 
need to differentiate between users in either case.

However, this seems harder now, since, as you said, local_parts is not 
available in DATA ACL... Would I need to set it up in the RCPT ACL 
section to set a variable, and then test on that in the DATA ACL 
section?

Thanks again for the help you provide!

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Re: Rootstrap Failing - is it the debbootstrap problem? or a comms problem

[Antonio Rodr]

You should file a bug report. I did so last night, against dbootstrap
and installer, which have been consistently failing for me.

> I noticed someone on here said they had had a problem with
> debbootstrap failing.  I must admit, that I had tried to build a
> chroot environment on my machine in despairation after failing to get
> user-mode-linux to run and found that it failed on me.
> 
> However, I persevered with uml and have managed to get a
> user-mode-linux system up and running with rootstrap (I know its
> running and the network works because I am pinging it).  However after
> running for a few hours (stuck on the line with I: at the front) it
> eventually gives up with the uninformative error message shown below. 
> The best I can deduce is that its failed somewhere in the debian
> module.
> 
> 
> Using rootstrap module debian from:
> /usr/lib/rootstrap/modules/debian
> I: Retrieving
> http://www.mirror.ac.uk/sites/ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/sid/
> Release
> E: Failed getting release file
> http://www.mirror.ac.uk/sites/ftp.debian.org/
> debian/dists/sid/Release
> Traceback (most recent call last):
>   File "/usr/lib/rootstrap/builder", line 66, in ?
> dispatch(module, modulevars)
>   File "/usr/lib/rootstrap/builder", line 44, in dispatch
> raise "rootstrap: Module '%s' failed, status: %d" %
> (module,status) rootstrap: Module 'debian' failed, status: 1
> Kernel panic: Attempted to kill init!
> 
> I mounted on the loop device the resultant file that had been created
> as the supposidely new filesystem and discovered that it only has
> /var/lib/apt/lists directory has been created and this is empty.  The
> rest of the filesystem is empty.
> 
> During the long wait, an ifconfig showed a tap device created and a
> small, but rather low speed traffic crossing that boundary.  I am not
> 100% convinced that communications from within the uml is getting out
> without lots of timeouts.
> 
> Any ideas how I can get a better picture of what is happening?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: System refuses to load uhci instead of usb-uhci

[Albert Dengg]

On Wed, 8 Oct 2003 16:31:08 -0400
Lou Losee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi, Currently on boot, my system is loading the usb-uhci module.  I am
> trying to change that to get it to load the uhci module instead.  I am
> running a custom 2.4.22 kernel if that matters.  I want uhci instead of
> usb-uhci based on the following output I get from a lspci -v | grep HCI
...
do you have hotplug installed?
hotplug (or at least the debian startup script for it) do load the usb driver modules 
for some method...
and the other one (it is silly but it can happen)...do you have it in /etc/modules ? 
(I don't mean to tell you stupid but such things do happen from time to time

yours
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Re: Partitions and format

[Gavin Hamill]

On Wednesday 08 October 2003 19:40, Joachim Fahnenmueller wrote:

> It shouldn't be necessary to reinstall. Worst case - ackup your data and
> reformat the partition. I think it is even possible to upgrade a partition
> from ext2 to ext3, but I don't know in detail.

Yes, not only is it possible, but it is very easy and very safe to do so:

If you find /dev/hda1 is ext2 and you'd like to move to ext3, simply

$ tune2fs -j /dev/hda1

That will create the journal inodes... Then you can change your fstab entry to 
'ext3' and enjoy the security and fast fsck-ing of ext3

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Debian 3.0 or testing on GeForce2 Go

[bmp2265]

Hallo everyone,
I've struggled the last days during an extensive installation session,
trying to get Linux running on a Vaio Laptop with Geforce2 Go. Unfortunately, this
chipset is not supported by XFree 4.2.1 and therefore won't run with Debian
3.0 or testing.
I've tried the NVidia binary driver with depressing results. Whenever X
closes and I get back to console the screen freezes, while the notebook itself is
still responding. I've tried this through all kind of XF86Config files and
all X Versions up to 4.3.0. I finally installed even SuSE with the same
result.
I guess it's a general issue with this particular video card, maybe the
bios. If someone has a good idea, I'm wide open, but right now I would like some
other advice.
What options do I have to install X 4.3 with a Debian system (stable or
unstable) and not confuse apt? I tried the rude way once and installed the
binaries, which led to a completly unmaintainable system - which is no option at
all.
Any help will be appreciated and yes, there is absolutly no issue when
running the notebook with X 4.3 and it's standard nv driver.
Best regards,
Jonathan

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Re: Suggestions for Organization's documents

[Tom Badran]

On Wednesday 08 October 2003 20:28, Monique Y. Herman wrote:
> I believe there are WYSIWYG editors for laTeX (or however you capitalize
> it.)  I don't recall their names offhand, though.

LyX is very good, and the QT interface for it is very nice. Ive just done a 
full 30 page report with it and was nothing but happy throughout. It doesn't 
however work on latex files directly, you have to import/export them as LyX 
uses it's own format.

> Some clarification of OpenOffice.  Their fileformat is actually
> compressed XML -- you can open it up in winzip and look at it yourself.
> So, if needed, you could convert it by script to some other format --
> though I wouldn't envy the task.  It also exports as standard MS types.

Its also not really a semantic xml format. It is just a mark up language that 
describes formating rather than what something actually is, which is where 
latex really shines i think.

> OpenOffice provides a word processor, a spreadsheet app, and a slideshow
> app (and probably more stuff I haven't noticed).  It's about 95% on
> importing/exporting to MS formats; the fewer crazy features you use, the
> closer it will be, of course.

Most of the problems are to do with which fonts are installed. If you install 
msttcorefonts then then the documents would look the same as on windows. I 
personally think your better off installing the bitstream fonts on your 
windows machines and using them as they are much nicer on the eyes than 
microsoft ones. Also, i think the presentation app is outstanding. Ive just 
used it for the first time to do a presentation for uni and it really rocks.

> I also have heard that OO.org is working on Reveal Codes for their next
> release -- which, if true, has me drooling.  That's the biggest thing I
> miss about WordPerfect.

No idea what these are so cant comment ;)

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System refuses to load uhci instead of usb-uhci

[Lou Losee]

Hi, Currently on boot, my system is loading the usb-uhci module.  I am
trying to change that to get it to load the uhci module instead.  I am
running a custom 2.4.22 kernel if that matters.  I want uhci instead of
usb-uhci based on the following output I get from a lspci -v | grep HCI
command:

00:07.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 USB (rev 01) (prog-if 00 
[UHCI])
00:0b.0 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB (rev 50) (prog-if 00 [UHCI])
00:0b.1 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB (rev 50) (prog-if 00 [UHCI])
00:0b.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB 2.0 (rev 51) (prog-if 20 [EHCI])

Based on some input from the hpoj list, I added the following line to
the aliases file in /etc/modutils and ran update-modules:

alias usb-controller uhci

That did not work, usb-uhci still loaded after a power down and reboot
(I was also told that a simple modprobe -r usb-uhci followed by a
modprobe uhci would not work and to power down the system after
changing) - shades of that *other* operating system.

So, then based on information in the FAQ at linux-usb.org, I removed the
previous line I added and added the following lines instead:

alias usb uhci
post-install uhci modprobe printer

Again after running update-modules powering down and rebooting usb-uhci
still gets loaded

Help - any ideas on how to get this to work

Lou Losee


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Re: w2k to samba

[Ryan Nowakowski]

Sounds like a winders question to me.  Probably won't get very many
answers on this list.

On Tue, Oct 07, 2003 at 11:40:34AM +0100, Gabriel Granger wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> I've set up a Debian NAS box using Samba(I know samba is not the issue) 
> on my network which is working great, but I need to be able to mount 
> parts of the NAS box on the w2k server so that data can be accessed 
> from the w2k servers.  normally you would need to login for the 
> connection to re-connect.  I need to be able to have the share 
> available from the w2k server before login.  Does anyone know how I 
> might be able to go about doing this?



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Re: Suggestions for Organization's documents

[Kjetil Kjernsmo]

On Wednesday 08 October 2003 18:14, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I work with a very small non-profit and over the years they have been
> keeping documents in various formats (most often MS Word or
> WordPerfect).  From these documents they generate printed booklets
> (so postscript output good), and the documents are also available
> on-line in HTML (to fit their existing web site) and as PDF.
>
> I'd like to move to text-based documents so we are not dependent on a
> specific product (like Word).  So I'm looking for suggestions.

That's definately a good idea!

Text-based probably a good choice, but also keep in mind that stuff like 
character encodings can make lives miserable over time. If you mainly 
do a-z, that's perhaps so much of an issue. 


> The people that create and manage these documents come and go (twice
> a year people change at the organization).  So I'm looking for
> something with an easy learning curve.  HTML is an options because
> everyone these days seems to have a bit of HTML experience.  The
> other advantage of HTML is that people can typically view them on
> their local machine.

Yup, HTML is quite likely to be a good choice. Last time I looked, XHTML 
2.0 are about to correct many of the bad flaws of previous HTML 
versions. It's worth looking at the latest draft spec.

> MS Word is nice that most seem to have it and it has reasonably good
> formatting (for wrapping text around images and so on) but the
> translation to HTML is horrible -- it won't generate HTML that they
> can use directly with their web site (which use style sheets and a
> templating system).  Not to mention it's not an Open Source solution.

Yup.

> So, I'm looking for something where the documents are easily edited,
> there's *not much of a learning curve* for editing the text, and
> tools exist for multiple platforms for generating ps or pdf output
> for preview locally.  And easy translation to HTML to fit our site. 
> XSLT?? DocBook? LaTeX?

XSLT is there only to transform things. DocBook is very nice, but may be 
overkill. 

I've used LaTeX extensively, a lot of letters, some articles and a 150 
page thesis. The output it produces if not used wrong, is of excellent 
quality. If it is important to you that your printed documents are of 
excellent typographic quality (as opposed to documents looking 
professional to a non-professional, like M$ Word), choose LaTeX. There 
are fewer tools for LaTeX though. 

However, I suspect it is more important that you have the flexibility of 
mainly online publishing as well as a good authoring tool. 

Then, I would think as follows: 
1) Minimalist: Choose HTML. If it can't be done with HTML, too bad. You 
could concievably write CSS to produce booklets from HTML source. 
2) Feature-rich: OpenOffice. There are XSLT transforms to transform 
OOo-files to HTML that are excellent, and if you would ever consider 
using something like AxKit for your website, you can simply drop the 
OOo file on the webserver and have it served like any other file using 
an "OpenOffice Provider",  
http://search.cpan.org/~msergeant/Apache-AxKit-Provider-OpenOffice-1.02/

Best,

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Re: Suggestions for Organization's documents

[Stephen Patterson]

On Wed, 08 Oct 2003 21:20:16 +0200, Stephen A. Witt wrote:
> Another option might be OpenOffice. Essentially its Word without the
> proprietary-ness of Word.

And these days, it even has a 'direct to pdf' exporter.

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Re: Partitions and format

[Joachim Fahnenmueller]

> On Tue, Oct 07, 2003 at 07:35:12AM +0100, Stuart Robinson wrote:
> > Question: I've forgotten what kind of format my linux partitions are (I
> > suspect I chose 'linux' (ext3?)- how can I tell and if I really would
> > prefer a journalling format can I change it without a reinstall? 
> 

Look in /etc/fstab - at least your root and swap partitions should have
entries. For those partitions that haven't, try e. g. mount -t ext2 , 
it will only work with the correct type.

It shouldn't be necessary to reinstall. Worst case - ackup your data and 
reformat the partition. I think it is even possible to upgrade a partition
from ext2 to ext3, but I don't know in detail.

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Re: Suggestions for Organization's documents

[Monique Y. Herman]

On Wed, 8 Oct 2003 12:08:12 -0700 (PDT), Stephen A. Witt
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> penned:
> 
> I don't have any experience with DocBook or XSLT, but I do nearly
> everything in LaTeX and I love it. From LaTex source you can pretty
> much automatically generate html and pdf as well as postscript. I do
> think the learning curve is a little steep though.  The way I do it is
> a lot like developing software, I have a directory that I put the
> "source" .tex files and have written a Makefile to "compile" it. I
> edit the source files with an editor and then run make and out come my
> docs. Many, many people here really like how my docs look, but are
> astounded that I can't give them a Word file and positively cringe
> when I break out emacs to do the edits.
> 
> With LaTeX I find that I worry a lot more about the content of the
> document than the format of it. If you need some pretty fancy document
> layouts, LaTeX can be a little challenging, but if your documents fit
> one of the standard document classes then its pretty good. LaTeX would
> probably only work for you if you had some guru type person who set up
> templates that the other people could use so they didn't have to
> become too knowledgeable about LaTeX.
> 
> Another option might be OpenOffice. Essentially its Word without the
> proprietary-ness of Word.
> 
> 
> 

I believe there are WYSIWYG editors for laTeX (or however you capitalize
it.)  I don't recall their names offhand, though.

Some clarification of OpenOffice.  Their fileformat is actually
compressed XML -- you can open it up in winzip and look at it yourself.
So, if needed, you could convert it by script to some other format --
though I wouldn't envy the task.  It also exports as standard MS types.

OpenOffice provides a word processor, a spreadsheet app, and a slideshow
app (and probably more stuff I haven't noticed).  It's about 95% on
importing/exporting to MS formats; the fewer crazy features you use, the
closer it will be, of course.

I also have heard that OO.org is working on Reveal Codes for their next
release -- which, if true, has me drooling.  That's the biggest thing I
miss about WordPerfect.

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Re: Suggestions for Organization's documents

[Joachim Fahnenmueller]

I suggest OpenOffice:

+ available for Linux and Windows platforms
+ easy to learn, many things are similar to Word (but some advanced
  features are IMHO better than Word's)
+ its own format is XML based, can also read and write Word, RTF and
  other formats
+ new version can generate PDF directly
+ I think HTML export is better than Word's. HTML editor is included


On Wed, Oct 08, 2003 at 09:14:51AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I work with a very small non-profit and over the years they have been
> keeping documents in various formats (most often MS Word or
> WordPerfect).  From these documents they generate printed booklets (so
> postscript output good), and the documents are also available on-line in
> HTML (to fit their existing web site) and as PDF.
> 
> I'd like to move to text-based documents so we are not dependent on a 
> specific product (like Word).  So I'm looking for suggestions.
> 
> The people that create and manage these documents come and go (twice a 
> year people change at the organization).  So I'm looking for something 
> with an easy learning curve.  HTML is an options because everyone these 
> days seems to have a bit of HTML experience.  The other advantage of 
> HTML is that people can typically view them on their local machine.
> 
> MS Word is nice that most seem to have it and it has reasonably good
> formatting (for wrapping text around images and so on) but the
> translation to HTML is horrible -- it won't generate HTML that they can
> use directly with their web site (which use style sheets and a
> templating system).  Not to mention it's not an Open Source solution.
> 
> So, I'm looking for something where the documents are easily edited, 
> there's *not much of a learning curve* for editing the text, and tools 
> exist for multiple platforms for generating ps or pdf output for preview 
> locally.  And easy translation to HTML to fit our site.  XSLT?? DocBook?  
> LaTeX?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 
> 
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> 

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Rootstrap Failing - is it the debbootstrap problem? or a comms problem

[Alan Chandler]

I noticed someone on here said they had had a problem with debbootstrap 
failing.  I must admit, that I had tried to build a chroot environment on my 
machine in despairation after failing to get user-mode-linux to run and found 
that it failed on me.

However, I persevered with uml and have managed to get a user-mode-linux 
system up and running with rootstrap (I know its running and the network 
works because I am pinging it).  However after running for a few hours (stuck 
on the line with I: at the front) it eventually gives up with the 
uninformative error message shown below.  The best I can deduce is that its 
failed somewhere in the debian module.


Using rootstrap module debian from:
/usr/lib/rootstrap/modules/debian
I: Retrieving http://www.mirror.ac.uk/sites/ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/sid/
Release
E: Failed getting release file http://www.mirror.ac.uk/sites/ftp.debian.org/
debian/dists/sid/Release
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/lib/rootstrap/builder", line 66, in ?
dispatch(module, modulevars)
  File "/usr/lib/rootstrap/builder", line 44, in dispatch
raise "rootstrap: Module '%s' failed, status: %d" % (module,status)
rootstrap: Module 'debian' failed, status: 1
Kernel panic: Attempted to kill init!

I mounted on the loop device the resultant file that had been created as the 
supposidely new filesystem and discovered that it only has /var/lib/apt/lists 
directory has been created and this is empty.  The rest of the filesystem is 
empty.

During the long wait, an ifconfig showed a tap device created and a small, but 
rather low speed traffic crossing that boundary.  I am not 100% convinced 
that communications from within the uml is getting out without lots of 
timeouts.

Any ideas how I can get a better picture of what is happening?





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Re: Suggestions for Organization's documents

[David Z Maze]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> I work with a very small non-profit and over the years they have
> been keeping documents in various formats  I'd like to move to
> text-based documents so we are not dependent on a specific product
> (like Word).  So I'm looking for suggestions.

Aah, the document format question...

> The people that create and manage these documents come and go (twice a 
> year people change at the organization).  So I'm looking for something 
> with an easy learning curve.  HTML is an options because everyone these 
> days seems to have a bit of HTML experience.  The other advantage of 
> HTML is that people can typically view them on their local machine.

(But, HTML-to-anything converters are rare, though you could do
something exciting with XSLT.)

> So, I'm looking for something where the documents are easily edited, 
> there's *not much of a learning curve* for editing the text, and tools 
> exist for multiple platforms for generating ps or pdf output for preview 
> locally.  And easy translation to HTML to fit our site.  XSLT?? DocBook?  
> LaTeX?

I think I'd suggest going with LaTeX for this, since the format is
closest to straight-up text.  If you need something arcane, you can
have a guru write a macro package for it and just tell your writers,
"use \strangecommand and don't worry about how it works".  The preview
cycle is pretty straightforward (latex; xdvi).  HeVeA seems to be the
best LaTeX-to-HTML converter out there, but depends on an OCaml
runtime, so installing it on arbitrary (non-Debian) machines might be
a little tricky.

(Our document scheme at work, for example, is latex (mpost|bibtex),
dvips, ps2pdf, hevea to get HTML, and then uses the Perl
HTML::FormatText module to produce plain text.)

DocBook seems like a good idea in principle, until you realize
that you wind up writing lots of XML start and
close tags.  You might go with the SGML version of DocBook, and then
use something like 

The XML conversion tools all seem to be fairly young, but generating
PDF and HTML are both straightforward.  There seem to be at least two
complete sets of XSL tools out there, the Java tools and the non-Java
tools; the Java ones should be portable to anything with a JVM,
including Windows.  But then you can write, with arbitrary
customization,

  SGML -[osx]-> XML -[xsltproc]-> XSL:FO -[passivetex]-> PDF
  SGML -[osx]-> XML -[  xalan ]-> XSL:FO -[   fop]-> PDF
  SGML -[osx]-> XML -[xsltproc]-> XHTML
  SGML -[osx]-> XML -[  xalan ]-> XHTML

The downside is that, since XSLT is Turing-complete, you get to learn
a brand new language complete with fun XML syntax to do anything.  The
upside is, it's at least supported by the W3C, and it's trendy, so if
you look on http://www.w3.org/ you can find links to several
tutorials.

(The closest parallel of this toolchain to the LaTeX toolchain is if
you think of LaTeX as having two parts, a macro processor and a
formatter.  Then XSL Flow Objects are kind of like the preprocessed
TeX file with some extra layout information; the formatter [passivetex
or FOP] does final layout and generally produces PDF as its actual
output.)

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Re: Howto not reject mail to Postmaster etc. in Exim4

[Philipp Weis]

On 08 Oct 2003, Kjetil Kjernsmo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> However, it is my damned duty to read or at least manually inspect the 
> stuff sent to postmaster, abuse, security, etc. So, I should never 
> reject anything sent there, and therefore, it is no point scanning it 
> either; that would only waste resources. 

This is certainly true for postmaster, but I think it would be
RFC-compliant to reject viruses and spam on abuse or security.

> I'm wondering, how do I set up Exim 4 to let through mail to postmaster, 
> etc., uninspected?
> 
> I thought these lines from 
>   accept local_parts = postmaster:abuse:security
>  domains = +local_domains
> from the standard Debian RCTP ACL config was supposed to do that, but it 
> doesn't...

Well, it does. The recipients are accepted here, but the mail is rejected
in the DATA ACL later on. To accept all mail to postmaster regardless of
their content, you have to set a variable in the RCPT ACL, because
local_part is not available in the DATA ACL.

RCPT:
accept local_parts = postmaster
   domains = +local_domains
   set acl_m0 = postmaster

DATA:
accept condition = ${if eq{$acl_m0}{postmaster} {1}{0}}

Now all mail to postmaster passes your filters. Messages with multiple
recipients and postmaster among them pass as well, but that should not be
a problem. See exiscan-acl-examples.txt.gz section 6 for further details
on multiple recipients.

Greetings,

Philipp

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Re: Suggestions for Organization's documents

[Stephen A. Witt]

On Wed, 8 Oct 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I work with a very small non-profit and over the years they have been
> keeping documents in various formats (most often MS Word or
> WordPerfect).  From these documents they generate printed booklets (so
> postscript output good), and the documents are also available on-line in
> HTML (to fit their existing web site) and as PDF.
>
> I'd like to move to text-based documents so we are not dependent on a
> specific product (like Word).  So I'm looking for suggestions.
>
> The people that create and manage these documents come and go (twice a
> year people change at the organization).  So I'm looking for something
> with an easy learning curve.  HTML is an options because everyone these
> days seems to have a bit of HTML experience.  The other advantage of
> HTML is that people can typically view them on their local machine.
>
> MS Word is nice that most seem to have it and it has reasonably good
> formatting (for wrapping text around images and so on) but the
> translation to HTML is horrible -- it won't generate HTML that they can
> use directly with their web site (which use style sheets and a
> templating system).  Not to mention it's not an Open Source solution.
>
> So, I'm looking for something where the documents are easily edited,
> there's *not much of a learning curve* for editing the text, and tools
> exist for multiple platforms for generating ps or pdf output for preview
> locally.  And easy translation to HTML to fit our site.  XSLT?? DocBook?
> LaTeX?
>

I don't have any experience with DocBook or XSLT, but I do nearly
everything in LaTeX and I love it. From LaTex source you can pretty much
automatically generate html and pdf as well as postscript. I do think the
learning curve is a little steep though.  The way I do it is a lot like
developing software, I have a directory that I put the "source" .tex files
and have written a Makefile to "compile" it. I edit the source files with
an editor and then run make and out come my docs. Many, many people here
really like how my docs look, but are astounded that I can't give them a
Word file and positively cringe when I break out emacs to do the edits.

With LaTeX I find that I worry a lot more about the content of the
document than the format of it. If you need some pretty fancy document
layouts, LaTeX can be a little challenging, but if your documents fit one
of the standard document classes then its pretty good. LaTeX would
probably only work for you if you had some guru type person who set up
templates that the other people could use so they didn't have to become
too knowledgeable about LaTeX.

Another option might be OpenOffice. Essentially its Word without the
proprietary-ness of Word.



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Re: man dangling symlink question

[Monique Y. Herman]

On 08 Oct 2003 19:35:26 +0200, JG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
penned:
> Hi,
> 
> "Monique Y. Herman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> writes:
> 
>> Cron keeps yapping at me, so I investigate and find the following:
>> 
>> home:~# ls -l  /usr/share/man/man1/tixindex.1.gz lrwxrwxrwx1 root
>> root   31 Sep 21 10:12 /usr/share/man/man1/tixindex.1.gz ->
>> /etc/alternatives/tixindex.1.gz home:~# ls -l
>> /etc/alternatives/tixindex.1.gz lrwxrwxrwx1 root root
>> 36 Sep 26 19:56 /etc/alternatives/tixindex.1.gz ->
>> /usr/share/man/man1/tixindex8.1.1.gz home:~# ls
>> /usr/share/man/man1/tix* /usr/share/man/man1/tixindex.1.gz@
>> /usr/share/man/man1/tixwish8.1.1.gz /usr/share/man/man1/tixwish.1.gz@
>> 
>> 
>> My question: what exactly is tixindex an alternative *for*?  Am I
>> safe just blowing away both those symlinks?
>> 
>> This may or may not be relevant:
>> 
>> home:~# ls -l /etc/alternatives/tixindex lrwxrwxrwx1 root
>> root   20 Sep 26 19:56 /etc/alternatives/tixindex ->
>> /usr/bin/tixindex8.1
>> 
> 
> $ update-alternatives --display tixindex
> 
> should give you a good start. 
> 
> Hope this helps,
> 
> Jaume

Thanks!

It says "no alternatives" ... hrm.  

I removed the alternatives entry by way of update-alternatives
--remove-all, but of course that doesn't fix the existing problem.

It finally occured to me to check the bug reports for this package.
Sure enough:

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=tix8.1

#214055: tix8.1: /usr/share/man/man1/tixindex8.1.1.gz missing

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Re: simply mutt (Re: Mutt with evolution)

[Brian Potkin]

On Tue, Oct 07, 2003 at 09:55:35PM +0530, Ashish Ariga wrote:

> On Tue, Oct 07, 2003 at 04:52:40PM +0100, duck wrote:
> > 
> > Alternatively you could bind the f12 key to fetchmail as I have:
> > macro index  "!fetchmail\n"
> 
> It is already bound to "G" in mutt. I was hoping it would do it periodically...

There is little confusion here.  You have in mind the fetch-mail
function, which is mutt's rudimentary way of collecting mail from a pop3
server, whereas duck is referring to fetchmail, a far more sophisticated
program for the same task.

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Re: simply mutt (Re: Mutt with evolution)

[Brian Potkin]

On Tue, Oct 07, 2003 at 11:50:58AM +0530, Ashish Ariga wrote:

> I am still having some problems getting mutt to work.
> 
> 1. Periodic checking for pop mail ("fetch-mail") doesn't work in spite
> of pop_* being set. Should I set spoolfile to pop:// instead ?

Your spool file should be /var/mail/yourusername and mutt looks there by
default.  Execute 'echo $MAIL' to check its location.  You do not want
to use mutt's spoolfile variable set to anything else.  Read section
6.3.240 of the mutt manual.

If you really want to use mutt's fetch-mail function to fetch your mail
and put it in $MAIL it should be sufficient for you to put the following
in your $HOME/.muttrc:

set pop_host="your_pop3_server"
set pop_pass="your_password_on_the_server"
set pop_user="your_username_on_the_server"

Do not forget to restart mutt for these to take effect.
 
> 2. Specifying filters for incoming mail like
>"if msg body has text XYZ, then delete the msg"
>"if msg is from mailing list ABC, move to folder ABC"
> I'm guessing I need to use "score", but I am not sure how.

For filtering mail you are better off looking at using procmail.  While
I'm not certain what 'score' could be used for it doesn't appear to be
suitable for what you want to do.

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Re: disable keyboard

[Monique Y. Herman]

On Wed, 8 Oct 2003 13:30:51 -0400, Victory <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
penned:
> 
> How do I disable "keyboard" or "mouse" from command line so that=20
> when system boot up, it will not looking for it.  I am running Debian
> 3.0r1
> 

This sounds like you're talking about the BIOS, not Debian.

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Re: NVIDIA driver and modconf/.deb

[Naitik Shah]

On Wed, 08 Oct 2003 13:10:54 -0300
Frederico Rodrigues Abraham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  Hi.
>  I currently have 2 kernels installed on my machine. 2.2.20-idepci
>  
> (default on debian cd) and a compiled 2.4.22 from www.kernel.org
>  I've tried to install the NVIDIA driver from www.nvidia.com from 
> http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_1.0-4496.html and 
> installed it for my 2.4 kernel. I have some questions...
>  - Is there a way to build the driver as a .deb, that is only
>  loaded 
> on the kernel 2.4?

You can apt-get nvidia-source , which will give you a tar.gz in /usr/src
which when untarred will give you a /usr/src/modules/nvidia-kernel.
After that, its simple, just jump into your /usr/src/linux-2.4.x
directory, and run:

make-kpkg --added-modules nvidia-kernel modules_image

This will create a nvidia-kernel deb in /usr/src for that kernel. When
you install it, it will be installed only for the kernel you compiled it
for. Just make sure you used the make-kpkg method to compile the kernel,
and make sure you use the same rev tags, if you used any.

>  - Is there a way to build the driver for the 2.2 kernel too? It 
> requires modinfo.h from the kernel source, but the 
> kernel-source-2.2.20-woody does not have it, so i cant build the
> driver for this kernel...

I'm not sure this is possible, google it, I know you can build for 2.6
for certain though.

>  - I think i screwed up the GLx/GLcore (software rendering)
>  drivers 
> for my 2.2 kernel, so i cant run opengl apps at all... is there an
> easy way to fix this (like reinstalling a package from the cd)? If
> there is not, no problem, i can reinstall my system.

'reinatall my system' is something windows users do! You can
apt-get --purge your existing GL drivers (make sure you back it up if
you dont know what you're doing) and install nvidia-glx (i'm assuming
thats what you're looking for).
> 
>  Thanks
>  -- Fred
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Re: Spamassassin

[Vineet Kumar]

* David Bell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [031008 00:20]:
> On Tue, 2003-10-07 at 17:37, Vineet Kumar wrote:
> > Yes, spamc will lighten the load on your server as compared to running
> > spamassassin on each message individually.  spamc is a small C program
> > that just pipes the message to an already-running spamd process.
> > spamassassin (and spamd) run in perl.  Starting up perl is a lot more
> > costly than running spamc.  Since this cost is multiplied by the number
> > of inbound mails you want to check, small savings add up quickly.
> 
> I'm currently using procmail -> spamassassin (not spamc) and notice the
> system load to some degree...  If I switched to spamd/spamc, would
> spamassassin still store each user's settings/bayes DBs in their
> ~/.spamassassin/ directory?  At the current time, this is a major
> advantage for my configuration.

Yes, users' .spamassassin directories are still used with spamd/spamc,
including preferences, white- and black-lists, rule weightings, and
bayes DBs.

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Re: How to kill X?

[Pigeon]

On Thu, Oct 09, 2003 at 08:11:53PM +1300, cr wrote:
> On Tue, 07 Oct 2003 07:04, Pigeon wrote:
> > On Tue, Oct 07, 2003 at 05:09:29AM +1300, cr wrote:
> > > I've only had one sieze in recent times, what I've had several of
> > > recently is sudden complete power cut - possibly a power supply fault.  
> > > Either way, it has the same effect of discombobulating my hard drive so I
> > > have to do a lot of fscking on startup again.Occasionally this
> > > completely munges my X setup.
> >
> > I think you might find ext3 to be a big help, though it's not a
> > complete solution - if the power dies in the middle of a write, you
> > can end up with a bad sector being created, which can confuse things a
> > bit.
> 
> Are there any downsides to ext3?

If you have a filesystem with a dirty journal you MUST try and replay
the journal, ie, fsck it, before doing anything else with it. If you
forget this you'll probably end up with worse damage than if you made
the same mistake with ext2. ext3 can be mounted as ext2 in emergency,
eg. if your rescue kernel hasn't got ext3 support, but don't be
tempted to mount it read-write.

There's also a slight speed hit. This will be the case with any
journalled filesystem as there is more writing involved. I'm a fan of
SCSI hard drives, and I like to set up ext3 with an external journal,
ie. on a different physical drive, which speeds things up a bit,
though at the cost of making your data twice as vulnerable to hard
drive failures (if the journal drive dies you're likely to end up with
an unfsckable mess on the data drive).

ext3 vs. reiser is a bit like emacs vs. vi. I haven't tried reiser, so
I won't comment on it.

> The new PSU idea will get tried out next weekend when I can pick one up.   
> (It's cheaper than the other possibility which is trying out a new 
> motherboard + CPU  :)

It's worth noting that O(500MHz) PII/III machines are dumpster items
nowadays, but are still capable enough to be useful for trying that
sort of test before committing yourself.

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Re: vim + termcaps + colors

[Monique Y. Herman]

On Tue, 7 Oct 2003 16:25:50 -0500 (CDT), Aaron Hall
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> penned:



> 
> The t_Co sets the number of colors your terminal supports. xterm and
> the linux console do 16 colors. The vt220 is how my OpenBSD console
> identifies itself, and it doesn't work with 16, so I set it to 8
> instead. The t_Sf and the t_Sb set the escape sequences to send to set
> the foreground and background colors, respectively. All characters are
> literal; it's should be safe to copy/paste this, and it should work
> fine in Vim 6.
> 
> A couple things I do not understand: there are also codes t_AF and
> t_AB, that seem to have the same purpose as t_Sf and t_Sb. I don't
> really understand the distinction between them. termcap(5) didn't help
> much, I'm afraid. t_Sf and t_Sb work for me, so I use them.
> 
>> [rest snipped]
> 
> I hope this is somewhat helpful.
> 
> - Aaron
> 

As I posted before, I was unable to get your fix to work.  Here's what
I've got now, which seems to work across all of the systems on which
I've used it:

if &term == "screen"
  if has("terminfo")
 set t_Co=16
 set t_AB=^[[%?%p1%{8}%<%t%p1%{40}%+%e%p1%{92}%+%;%dm
 set t_AF=^[[%?%p1%{8}%<%t%p1%{30}%+%e%p1%{82}%+%;%dm
  else
 set t_Co=16
 set t_Sf=^[[3%dm
 set t_Sb=^[[4%dm
  endif
else "cygwin, xterm, any others?
  if has("terminfo")
set t_Co=8
set t_Sf=^[[3%p1%dm
set t_Sb=^[[4%p1%dm
  else
set t_Co=8
set t_Sf=^[[3%dm
set t_Sb=^[[4%dm
  endif
endif

(^[ up there is a literal escape ... I think I could replace those with
the text )

The only difference I readily notice is that comments are bright cyan in
the 8-color variations and "muted" cyan in 16-color.

I don't know why I should be able to get 16 colors working in screen but
not in the terminal from which I ran screen, but screw it.  This works
well enough.  I haven't been able to test it while actually sitting at
the machine's terminal, but I'm betting (hoping) it will work.

As for your earlier questions, according to the vim documentation, t_AF
and t_AB are ANSI.  t_sf and t_sb are, um, not.  I'm not really sure
what all that means, but fwiw, there you go.

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Re: Incorrect system time

[duck]

On Tue, 2003-10-07 at 22:50, Clive Menzies wrote:
> On (07/10/03 11:22), michael montagne wrote:
> > I have two knoppix systems with the same problem.  The time returned by 
> > "date" does not match the timestamps shown in the logfiles.  I've run 
> > "tzconfig" and changed the timezone to US/Pacific.  I've used "ntpdate" 
> > to update the time with a valid timeserver.  All indications are that my 
> > setup is correct.  /etc/localtime symlinks to the proper file in 
> > /usr/share/...
> > But all my cron jobs run at the wrong time and the timestamps in the 
> > logs are all 9 hours ahead.
> 
> Hi
> 
> I'm not sure if this is related but I found (I'm in London on British
> Summer Time ie GMT +1) that if when configuring the base system I
> selected yes to "Set Hardware Clock to GMT", Debian would be an hour
> out.
> 
IIRC Windows doesn't store time in GMT/UTC, but in local time, messing
up the clock if that option is set.


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disable keyboard

[Victory]

How do I disable "keyboard" or "mouse" from command line so 
that 
when system boot up, it will not looking for it.
I am running Debian 3.0r1
 
Regards,
Victor,

Swen

[Sudeep Mukherjee]

Hi

I subscribed to this newsgroup a few days ago. As soon as I subscribed
I started receiving a lot of email from Microsoft, all of which is the
swen virus. I know this to be swen cause I use swedeleter to check my
email account before downloading the email.

So does this mean that some one on this list is affected by the virus?

What can be the possible explanation?

Regards and waiting to be enlightened...

Bob


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man dangling symlink question

[Monique Y. Herman]

Cron keeps yapping at me, so I investigate and find the following:

home:~# ls -l  /usr/share/man/man1/tixindex.1.gz
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   31 Sep 21 10:12 
/usr/share/man/man1/tixindex.1.gz -> /etc/alternatives/tixindex.1.gz
home:~# ls -l /etc/alternatives/tixindex.1.gz
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   36 Sep 26 19:56 
/etc/alternatives/tixindex.1.gz -> /usr/share/man/man1/tixindex8.1.1.gz
home:~# ls /usr/share/man/man1/tix*
/usr/share/man/man1/tixindex.1.gz@  /usr/share/man/man1/tixwish8.1.1.gz
/usr/share/man/man1/tixwish.1.gz@


My question: what exactly is tixindex an alternative *for*?  Am I safe
just blowing away both those symlinks?

This may or may not be relevant:

home:~# ls -l /etc/alternatives/tixindex
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   20 Sep 26 19:56 /etc/alternatives/tixindex -> 
/usr/bin/tixindex8.1

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Re: Incorrect system time

[Mario Vukelic]

On Mit, 2003-10-08 at 07:40, Oliver Elphick wrote:

> The only time you want the hardware clock on local time is when you are
> dual-booting Windows, since Windows runs with local time in the hardware
> clock.

Not anymore. At least XP (not sure about 2000) has a "System clock is
GMT" check box


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Re: How to secure access to WLAN?

[David Fokkema]

On Wed, 2003-10-08 at 16:25, Kjetil Kjernsmo wrote:
> One concern is that if somebody has a router with a connection to the 
> Internet and my Access Point (which isn't bad in itself, as long as my 
> packets can go either way), then my CUPS server would be accessible to 
> the world, not what I desired, I wanted it only to be accessible to the 
> machines connecting directly to the Access Point. Is there simple 
> solution to this?

I'd like a more secure setup. I'd just take it as a fact that _many_
machines will want to connect to your access point and they _all_ act as
gateways for other machines on the internet which are _all_ loaded with
viruses and _all_ want to print hundreds and hundreds of pages on _your_
printer. Preferably when you're away from home. Furthermore, most, if
not all, machines are run by very skilled crackers. Really.

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Suggestions for Organization's documents

[moseley]

I work with a very small non-profit and over the years they have been
keeping documents in various formats (most often MS Word or
WordPerfect).  From these documents they generate printed booklets (so
postscript output good), and the documents are also available on-line in
HTML (to fit their existing web site) and as PDF.

I'd like to move to text-based documents so we are not dependent on a 
specific product (like Word).  So I'm looking for suggestions.

The people that create and manage these documents come and go (twice a 
year people change at the organization).  So I'm looking for something 
with an easy learning curve.  HTML is an options because everyone these 
days seems to have a bit of HTML experience.  The other advantage of 
HTML is that people can typically view them on their local machine.

MS Word is nice that most seem to have it and it has reasonably good
formatting (for wrapping text around images and so on) but the
translation to HTML is horrible -- it won't generate HTML that they can
use directly with their web site (which use style sheets and a
templating system).  Not to mention it's not an Open Source solution.

So, I'm looking for something where the documents are easily edited, 
there's *not much of a learning curve* for editing the text, and tools 
exist for multiple platforms for generating ps or pdf output for preview 
locally.  And easy translation to HTML to fit our site.  XSLT?? DocBook?  
LaTeX?

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NVIDIA driver and modconf/.deb

[Frederico Rodrigues Abraham]

Hi.
I currently have 2 kernels installed on my machine. 2.2.20-idepci 
(default on debian cd) and a compiled 2.4.22 from www.kernel.org
I've tried to install the NVIDIA driver from www.nvidia.com from 
http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_1.0-4496.html and 
installed it for my 2.4 kernel. I have some questions...
- Is there a way to build the driver as a .deb, that is only loaded 
on the kernel 2.4?
- Is there a way to build the driver for the 2.2 kernel too? It 
requires modinfo.h from the kernel source, but the 
kernel-source-2.2.20-woody does not have it, so i cant build the driver 
for this kernel...
- I think i screwed up the GLx/GLcore (software rendering) drivers 
for my 2.2 kernel, so i cant run opengl apps at all... is there an easy 
way to fix this (like reinstalling a package from the cd)? If there is 
not, no problem, i can reinstall my system.

Thanks
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Re: PDA/GSM Phones

[HdV]

On Tue, 7 Oct 2003, Matthew Daubenspeck wrote:

> 1 - Bluetooth. Any ideas of the Linux support? Does anyone have a
> specific adapter working?

AFAIK support for Bluetooth is in any reasonably recent kernel. Don't
know about specific hardware though...

> 2 - Syncing the data. A lot of these phones have all of the standard PDA
> based apps built into them [calendar, contact list, todo list, etc]. Has
> anyone tried syncing this with something via Bluetooth?

I use multisync for this. It allows syncing between several Evolutions,
my Ericsson T39m and my PDA (at the moment still a Palm, but I am
waiting for a Zaurus C-760 to delivered). It has proven to be quite
useful to me.

I am sorry, but I can't remember the exact URL. Google might be your
friend...

HTH

Grx HdV



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Howto not reject mail to Postmaster etc. in Exim4

[Kjetil Kjernsmo]

Hi all!

I'm still working on my Exim4 config, and I have now a server that 
nicely uses exiscan-acl to reject viruses and spam with an SA score 
above 13. 

However, it is my damned duty to read or at least manually inspect the 
stuff sent to postmaster, abuse, security, etc. So, I should never 
reject anything sent there, and therefore, it is no point scanning it 
either; that would only waste resources. 

I'm wondering, how do I set up Exim 4 to let through mail to postmaster, 
etc., uninspected?

I thought these lines from 
  accept local_parts = postmaster:abuse:security
 domains = +local_domains
from the standard Debian RCTP ACL config was supposed to do that, but it 
doesn't...

Postmaster etc. is a simple alias for my own user, in case that is 
relevant. 

Also, I have a bunch of spamtraps, and it is no point spam-scanning 
those either. I just want to virus-scan them, reject if there is a 
virus, then reject if the message is over a certain size, otherwise 
pipe it to spamassassin -r. Anybody know how to do that? I guess it 
must be done in the DATA ACL, since both the virus scanning and the 
spam scanning is done there, but my ideas stop there... 

Best,

Kjetil
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Re: PDA/GSM Phones

[Michael Biebl]

Hi,

Matthew Daubenspeck wrote:

1 - Bluetooth. Any ideas of the Linux support? Does anyone have a
specific adapter working?
I'm having one of those Acer bluetooth dongles which works great with 
linux. Enable usb and bluetooth support in your kernel and install the 
bluez-* packages like bluez-utils, bluez-pin ...


2 - Is anyone doing the same thing already that can point me in the
right direction?
I have the Sony Ericsson T610 which works great with linux.

2 - Syncing the data. A lot of these phones have all of the standard PDA
based apps built into them [calendar, contact list, todo list, etc]. Has
anyone tried syncing this with something via Bluetooth?
Install the package multisync. This can sync your contacts, calendar 
etc. with evolution.
In order to transfer shot pictures, sounds etc. from your mobile phone 
you need the openobex-tools. These are commandline tools. If you prefer 
a GUI and you run Sid, add this line to your /etc/apt/sources.list
 deb http://debian.usefulinc.com/gnome ./
and install the package gnome-bluetooth.
This installs a Nautilus VFS-module. Just type bluetooth:/// in nautilus 
and you should see your mobile phone listed. Now you can transfer sounds 
and pics by drag and drop.
KDE 3.2 will eventually have bluetooth/obex support. By now there is a 
kio-slave named kio_obex in KDE-CVS in the module kdenonbeta, it would 
be cool if this made it into the 3.2 release.

Michael



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Re: Exim4, Clamav, SA-Exim,

[Steve Lamb]

On Wed, 8 Oct 2003 12:20:00 +0200
Kjetil Kjernsmo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> However, I think I would prefer that it behaved as the current 
> SpamAssassin do, that is, it makes an attachment out of the original 
> message, inserts the report in the body, and modifies the Subject-line 
> to include *SPAM** rather than just add another one. 
 
> Any ideas on how to do this?

To be honest, no.  Since I have a few other people that get mail from my
machine I alter the message as little as possible.  Also since I'm running SA
through SA-Exim I've not investigated how exiscan-acl does things.

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Re: Exim4, Clamav, SA-Exim, (was Re: SWEN isn't slowing down)

[Steve Lamb]

On Wed, 8 Oct 2003 02:37:47 -0700
Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 08, 2003 at 02:12:41AM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote:
> >  There isn't, really.  My approach was to try to create a new eval()
> > test in SA which called clamav.  I ended up installing
> > exim4-daemon-heavy and using exiscan-acl (compiled into -heavy) to
> > call clamav and left SA in the capable hands of sa-exim.

> Close enough.  Got a howto?

I found a pretty good how-to on-line with Google.  Search on "exiscan-acl
clamav pdf".  It should be the 2nd link.

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Re: how to get gnome?

[Antony Gelberg]

On Wed, Oct 08, 2003 at 04:15:07PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I'm really impressed. After not touching Debian for a while, I
> now did a fresh install and dist-upgrade to sarge and... wow.
> It works. Just so. Out of the box.
> 
> I know I should be happy now, but I'm one those who will look
> for trouble. Sorry if this sounds ungrateful.
> 
> Seems as if the task "desktop environment" only provided me with
> KDE. Installing Gnome was (and is) a problem I have to solve
> myself - I did so by selecting a few packes that have 'gnome' in
> their name, hoping that dependencies would solve the rest.
> 
> After some woes, I found out that the dependecies did not
> include a window manager (could this justify a bug report?)
> 
> The I added Sawfish, Gnome eventually started working but still
> looks very minimalistic. Seems as if I need a few more packages,
> but which? Could someone please provide me with a list of stuff
> I'd likely like to have?
> 
> Or is there a task or meta-package or sumsuch that I simply
> didn't see?
> 
> 
> cu,
> Schnobs 

I say dist-upgrade to unstable and apt-get install gnome.  It worked
stunningly well on my machine.

A


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Re: where did xclock go?

[Nori Heikkinen]

on Wed, 08 Oct 2003 12:14:54AM +0100, Colin Watson insinuated:
> On Tue, Oct 07, 2003 at 06:20:42PM -0400, Nori Heikkinen wrote:
> > anybody know where debian's xclock package went?  seems pretty
> > innocuous, but i can't find it in the archives anywhere!  :(
> 
> It seems to be part of xbase-clients.

so it is.  weird, that didn't get it earlier ...





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Re: Graphing/Charting software

[Michael A. Miller]

> "Kjetil" == Kjetil Kjernsmo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Everybody go: apt-get install r-recommended now! :-)

I heartily second that!  R is an extremely capable and well done
system that not only produces very nice graphs, but is well ahead
of many commercial/professional statistics systems as well.

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Re: how to get gnome?

[Travis Crump]

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Or is there a task or meta-package or sumsuch that I simply
didn't see?
Usually, yes.  Currently[for testing], no.  You could try the 
metapackage from sid which is mostly installable on sarge with the 
exception of nautilus and gnome-media.



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Re: Samba 3 on stable

[Albert Dengg]

On Tue, 7 Oct 2003 13:11:52 -0700
Curtis Vaughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Has anyone installed Samba 3 (final) from untesting on a stable version 
> of Debian?  Any concerns I should be aware of before giving it a try?
> 
> Curtis
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Hi

Well I'm using it with sid and it works...just one thing i noticed when upgradeding 
 at some alpha/beta version (I don't remeber which one) they added the feature for 
users to be forced to change the password periodically and it is acitivated by default 
(at least in the unstable packages)...I haven't chacked though if this is true for 
the finay release..espacially with the standard version...
This can be anoying if you do not notice it since at home the users use an automatic 
login (not very secure - I know) and so they did not see any dialog box that told them 
to do sootherwise it seems to work fine for me (I only have 2 users with this 
server and 99.9% of the work for the server is only printing...)


yours
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forum, mailinglist, knowledgebase

[VEGH Karoly]

Hi,

I'd like to build up a webportal, with the following 
conditions:

- forum/newsgroup with two-way mailgateway
- searchable archivum
- userauth from AD

(I believe I'll need some DB behind it)

ofcourse auf debian/linux.

Being opensource or free is no disadvantage :) 

has anyone ever done something like that?

gforge? sporum? phpgroupware? sourceforge? zope-cmfforum? ezpublish?

experiences?


wbr

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Re: changing permissions of files in directories

[Colin Watson]

On Wed, Oct 08, 2003 at 09:42:55PM +1000, Cameron Hutchison wrote:
> Once upon a time Colin Watson said...
> > The downside is that you can only use xargs this way for programs that
> > let you specify an arbitrary number of filenames lasting up to the end
> > of the command line. 
> 
> xargs -n 1 
> 
> will limit xargs to running the command with 1 argument

Sure, but in the case given you might as well use find -exec then.

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