Re: Mailboxes, etc.

2003-10-27 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Mon, Oct 27, 2003 at 03:53:08AM -0600, Ron Johnson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Mon, 2003-10-27 at 01:36, Karsten M. Self wrote:

> > maildir.  Much better performance, more flexible, you can access
> > messages as individual files, and more robust.  Plus 'From' doesn't need
> > to be escaped at start of line.
> 
> Why better performance?  If there's lots of messages, directory
> manipulation becomes very slow (at least on IDE drive).

Directory insertion/deletion (Maildir) vs. file insertion/deletion
(mbox).

Mailder is far more robust (djb gets _some_ things right).  And deals
with simultaneous access and multiple updates (say, d-u, where I
typically get new mail every few minutes) far better than mbox.

I try to keep my mailboxes <1k messages, though with Maildir I've had
20k+ messages with few problems.


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Re: Think I need ttyN where N>8...

2003-10-27 Thread Wilko Fokken
On Mon, Oct 27, 2003 at 03:45:58PM +0100, Kjetil Kjernsmo wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> I think I need to make more tty-devices, and I'm using devfs, so the 
> short question is: How can I make more than the usual tty0 to tty8? 
> (Because it is only those in Debian from the start, right...?)
> 
Do you mean devices '/dev/tty0' .. '/dev/tty63' ? (Debian defaults)

Or do you want to use more of them in text mode ?
then add them to '/etc/inittab' (excluding tty7 used by X).

With '/etc/inittab' supplemented, e.g.:

8:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty8
9:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty9
10:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty10
11:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty11
12:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty12
...
24:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty24


(after relogin),
access the new available text screens:

 .. ,  .. 
 (tty1)  (tty12)(tty13)   (tty24) 



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Re: Pathetic Writer (or siagoffice)

2003-10-27 Thread Wilko Fokken
On Mon, Oct 27, 2003 at 02:40:29PM +1100, Ken Caldwell wrote:
> 
> I was looking for a small word processor and spreadsheet to be used on
> some old computers (Pentium 75 with 32MB RAM and 520MB HDD) and tried to
> use Pathetic Writer which is part of siagoffice but it seems to crash.
> 
> Ken
> 
Do you really need wordprocessing combined with a spreadsheet within one
single program?

If not, you may try 'slsc' as a not so bad spreadsheet in text mode;
this may lead you to a better wordprocessor not overeating your system
ressources - if not even to working with 'latex'.

Wilko


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Re: why is debian the only distribution that won't let me run X?

2003-10-27 Thread Wilko Fokken
On Mon, Oct 27, 2003 at 02:53:11AM +, Pigeon wrote:
> 
> SiS6326-based cards are cheap, are available in PCI format, and can be
> used with svgatextmode using my ClockProg. They're crap for games but
> fine for desktop stuff.
> 

Thanks for your information, I'll try buying such a card.

What is it about your 'ClockProg', can it's output be used as "Clocks" 
in '/etc/X11/XF86Config' ?


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Re: reiserfs

2003-10-27 Thread Micha Feigin
On Tue, 2003-10-28 at 00:51, Hoyt Bailey wrote:
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Monique Y. Herman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 12:14
> Subject: Re: reiserfs
> 
> 
> > On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 at 15:31 GMT, Vivek Kumar penned:
> > > Hi there,
> > >
> > > I was trying to mount my removable hdd as reiserfs filesystem. It gave
> > > me following error. What should I do ??
> > > THE VERSION I CHECKED IS 2.2.20.
> > > KINDLY HELP..
> > >
> > > Vivek
> > >
> > > mount -t reiserfs /dev/hdd1 /prod1
> > > mount: fs type reiserfs not supported by kernel
> > > ham:~#
> > > ham:~#
> > > ham:~# cd /proc
> > > ham:/proc# cat version
> > > Linux version 2.2.20-idepci ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 2.7.2.3)
> >
> > Looks like you need to get a version of the kernel that supports
> > reiserfs.  Me, I'd compile my own, but I believe you can get versions of
> > the kernel that support various extra options.
> >
> > (Hey, question for the list: as I understand it, there's the vanilla
> > kernel, and then there's, say, the kernel with reiser support, the
> > kernel with xyz support, etc.  If you need multiples of these, do you
> > have to compile it yourself, or is there a way to get that pre-packaged?
> > I personally find some perverse joy in reading through all the options
> > and rolling my own, but I'm curious about how the other side lives.)
> >
> > -- 
> > monique
> > Unless you need to share ultra-sensitive super-spy stuff with me, please
> > don't email me directly.  I will most likely see your post before I read
> > your mail, anyway.
> >
> Speaking for myself only.  I have to make do with whatever is provided.  I
> am trying to learn to speak debian but it is tough when words have meanings
> that arnt in the dic. see there is one I know its dictionary but to save
> time or whatever we all slip up now and again. BTW I assume it means by the
> way, but I have seen it used where that didnt make any sense and when that
> is carried over into a technical subject katy bar the door and keep the
> kooks in.
> Hoyt (Sorry I'm flustered)

If I understood this correctly the short stuff came from chat rooms and
not debian specific. The ones I remember now, assuming I didn't get them
wrong myself ;-)

IIRC - if I recall correctly
AFAIK - as far as I know
BTW - by the way
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Re: Insidious Spam/swen/Garbage

2003-10-27 Thread Ron Johnson
On Mon, 2003-10-27 at 22:38, Monique Y. Herman wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 at 04:08 GMT, Paul Johnson penned:
> > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1
> > 
> > On Mon, Oct 27, 2003 at 01:25:38PM -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote:
> >> Even if exim spoke SSL to the smarthost, the email would still be
> >> plaintext between there and the originator.  At least, I think that's
> >> how it works.  If you really want to hide the contents of your email,
> >> encrypt the actual message ... of course, that still doesn't hide the
> >> sender or recipient.
> > 
> > So they know where it came from and is going to.  Whoop-de-doo...
> > 
> 
> Sure, but everyone has their own limit when it comes to privacy.  Maybe
> I don't want you to know that I have been sending messages to the "hot
> gerbil sex" mailing list ... 

You mean you're on HGS?  Wow, me too!!!

Hey, you wouldn't be grblgrrrl, would yo?

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Re: inetd not being run at startup

2003-10-27 Thread David Lloyd

Monique,

> > Aha, sure enough, only rc0.d and rc6.d have a file K20inetd I assume I
> > can fix this by typing update-rc.d inetd defaults Someone please let
> > me know if it would be a mistake to do so.  Also, I noticed that there
> > were several other files missing besides inetd, such as: cron,
> > kerneld, ppp, hwclock.sh, etc-setserial, hotplug, urandom, networking,
> > umountfs, and halt.  Should I also try to type 'update-rc.d NAME
> > defaults' for them?

update-rc.d can be slightly arcane to use until you get the hang of its
syntax. Even now I stuff it up ;-)

However, one thing that I always remember is:

 update-rc.d -f servicename remove

...this removes said service from all the runlevels. I remember this
because I'm always getting things in the wrong place [the best one is to
put portmap AFTER nfs-kernel-server, or network after nfs-kernel-server.
lol].

 update-rc.d inetd defaults

...should work for you.


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Re: inetd not being run at startup

2003-10-27 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 at 21:22 GMT, Richard Otte penned:
> Aha, sure enough, only rc0.d and rc6.d have a file K20inetd I assume I
> can fix this by typing update-rc.d inetd defaults Someone please let
> me know if it would be a mistake to do so.  Also, I noticed that there
> were several other files missing besides inetd, such as: cron,
> kerneld, ppp, hwclock.sh, etc-setserial, hotplug, urandom, networking,
> umountfs, and halt.  Should I also try to type 'update-rc.d NAME
> defaults' for them?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Ric
> 

I'm afraid I'm a neanderthal thrownback who has thus far always used 'ln
-s' to solve my rc.d problems, so I can't answer that =/

Actually, this list has been amazingly great at making me aware of tools
I never even knew existed.

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Xserver-Xfree86

2003-10-27 Thread David R Hovland
Hi guys, I'm back.  Thanks for the advise, it worked, part way.
I ran apt-get install xserver-xfree86.
Now the problem seems to start at:
(--) Assigning device section with no busID to primary device
(EE) No device detected.

Fatal server error:
no screen found

X connection to :0.0 broken ( explicit kill or server shutdown).

I have run apt-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 and set the busID to
PCI:1:0:0 (as seen on a google search) also PCI:01:00:00 with above 
results.  the lspci gives me 01:0.0 for this card. I have not been able to 
reconcile this to the given formula PCI:nn:nn:nn.  I have completely 
reloaded the OS again thinking I had done something wrong.

David

PS- is this post ok as far as word wrap, no html?


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Re: Insidious Spam/swen/Garbage

2003-10-27 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 at 04:08 GMT, Paul Johnson penned:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1
> 
> On Mon, Oct 27, 2003 at 01:25:38PM -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote:
>> Even if exim spoke SSL to the smarthost, the email would still be
>> plaintext between there and the originator.  At least, I think that's
>> how it works.  If you really want to hide the contents of your email,
>> encrypt the actual message ... of course, that still doesn't hide the
>> sender or recipient.
> 
> So they know where it came from and is going to.  Whoop-de-doo...
> 

Sure, but everyone has their own limit when it comes to privacy.  Maybe
I don't want you to know that I have been sending messages to the "hot
gerbil sex" mailing list ... 

I just mentioned the caveat about senders and recipients for
completeness' sake.

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Re: Mutt displays mail twice... :-s

2003-10-27 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 at 00:26 GMT, Tom penned:
[snip]
> 
> ...which seems to suggest
> 
> * not only that a .procmailrc makes a .forward useless when that
> .forward is only meant to roll on procmail * but *also* that it's the
> cause of the duplicate mails, since the .procmailrc puts mail in it's
> place, and the .forward delivers mail to procmail a *second* time!
> 
> I'll delete my .forward and see what happens...

Well, I've had a .forward calling procmail in addition to apparently
calling procmail through exim for a month or two, and I don't have dupes
...

> I'm hoping things end up correctly now that I've gotten rid of the
> .forward file...

I hope so, too, but given my lack of problems with the same
configuration, I'd be surprised.

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Re: way-OT: regularity of german v. english [was: Re: OT - Programming Languages w/o English Syntax]

2003-10-27 Thread Tom
On Mon, Oct 27, 2003 at 11:20:36PM -0500, Nori Heikkinen wrote:
> the distinction that's being missed here is that people don't code in
> english, people use english words as symbols in their code.  there's a
> huge difference.

Random webpage I have open...
GtkTreeStore* gtk_tree_store_new(gint n_columns,
 ...);

there is some language content here, some internal linguistic structure.  
If they were purely logical constructs we'd be as likely to see:

BrownBear* gtk_brownbear_drip (fishnet stars);

as

y=f(x)
w=u(t)

both convey the same meaning to us.  There's a bit more going on there.


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Re: way-OT: regularity of german v. english [was: Re: OT - Programming Languages w/o English Syntax]

2003-10-27 Thread Nori Heikkinen
on Mon, 27 Oct 2003 07:51:17PM -0800, Tom insinuated:
> On Mon, Oct 27, 2003 at 10:36:20PM -0500, Nori Heikkinen wrote:
> > i'm arguing that _neither_ english _nor_ german is perfectly
> > suited to code, since one needs to do some translation to get the
> > sentence into the form in which a human would say it.
> > 
> > on top of that, i'm arguing that _no_ language fits this bill.
> > think about it -- if there were a human language that could be
> > described as easily as a computer language, we would be able to
> > express that human language as a finite state automaton, thereby
> > solving the language problem, and the whole of AI with it.
> > there's a reason we write in a formal, simplified language when we
> > code!
> 
> I believe that.  Pure vulcan logic.  Yet we are confronted with the
> bare fact: people code in english.  

the distinction that's being missed here is that people don't code in
english, people use english words as symbols in their code.  there's a
huge difference.



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Re: Insidious Spam/swen/Garbage

2003-10-27 Thread Tom
On Mon, Oct 27, 2003 at 08:08:22PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote:
> So they know where it came from and is going to.  Whoop-de-doo...

Actually that's my philosophy when it comes to all privacy: fuck it.
Come look.  If it creeps you out, that's on you.

It's a remarkably effective stance to take.


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Re: Insidious Spam/swen/Garbage

2003-10-27 Thread Paul Johnson
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On Mon, Oct 27, 2003 at 01:25:38PM -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote:
> Even if exim spoke SSL to the smarthost, the email would still be
> plaintext between there and the originator.  At least, I think that's
> how it works.  If you really want to hide the contents of your email,
> encrypt the actual message ... of course, that still doesn't hide the
> sender or recipient.

So they know where it came from and is going to.  Whoop-de-doo...

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Re: HOWTO make a server

2003-10-27 Thread Roberto Sanchez
Leandro Patrón Rizzo wrote:
Hi.
I'm reading a lots of HOWTO's, I want too put a linux box that sharing
internet and act as DNS server for a private network.
But, all the things that appears in those HOWTO doesn't match the files
in Debian's distribution.
Where can I find HOWTO's for networking over DEBIAN?
Thanks a lot :)
Leandro

If that is all you are using the machine for, checkout Gibraltar.
I jave not used it myself, but it is a CD-bootable firewall-and-
other-stuff distro based on Debian.
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Re: emacs: adding default minor modes?

2003-10-27 Thread Paul Johnson
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On Mon, Oct 27, 2003 at 08:31:53PM -0500, Jerome R. Acks wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 08:30:57PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote:
> > What's the easiest way for a non-LISPer to add ispell-minor-mode to be
> > one of the default minor modes in emacs?
> > 
> 
> In Debian's emacs21_21.2-1_i386.deb you can start flyspell-mode by typing:
> M-x flyspell-mode

Of course.  My question was how to start emacs with flyspell-mode
already on.

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Re: which one is better??

2003-10-27 Thread Roberto Sanchez
Paul Gatherum wrote:
 

Which NFS is better, the NFS-user-server or the NFS-kernel-server?  I
need to set up a box on a pretty large network to dump some pretty large
files, and share them throughout.  I have lebranet installed and have
400g to play with.  What would you recommend? 

It depends on what your needs are: kernel server performs better, user
server is more flexible.
Please turn off html as well :-)

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Re: way-OT: regularity of german v. english [was: Re: OT - Programming Languages w/o English Syntax]

2003-10-27 Thread Tom
On Mon, Oct 27, 2003 at 10:36:20PM -0500, Nori Heikkinen wrote:
> i'm arguing that _neither_ english _nor_ german is perfectly suited to
> code, since one needs to do some translation to get the sentence into
> the form in which a human would say it.
> 
> on top of that, i'm arguing that _no_ language fits this bill.  think
> about it -- if there were a human language that could be described as
> easily as a computer language, we would be able to express that human
> language as a finite state automaton, thereby solving the language
> problem, and the whole of AI with it.  there's a reason we write in a
> formal, simplified language when we code!

I believe that.  Pure vulcan logic.  Yet we are confronted with the bare 
fact: people code in english.  You could argue "American Hedgemony," 
except computer scientists not to fit that stereotype, so why did it 
happen?

I keep telling people I never used to think I was better than everybody 
else until you keep telling me I am :-)


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Re: e-mail

2003-10-27 Thread Paul William
This is a debian user list (we use Linux not windows). This is not an
appropriate place to ask for windows help.

Debian users - give this guy a break ;-)

On Tue, 2003-10-28 at 05:37, Gaolon O. Hall wrote:
> I had to reload all of my programs including Windows ME because of
> virus infection.  Now I can not get my e-mail up.  Neither Network
> Everywhere or USB ports.  What has happened?
> Gailon O. Hall
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Re: way-OT: regularity of german v. english [was: Re: OT - Programming Languages w/o English Syntax]

2003-10-27 Thread Nori Heikkinen
on Sat, 25 Oct 2003 11:05:22AM -0700, Erik Steffl insinuated:
> Nori Heikkinen wrote:
> >on Fri, 24 Oct 2003 12:11:49PM -0700, Erik Steffl insinuated:
> >
> >>Nori Heikkinen wrote:
> >>
> >>>now, think of an example in which you encounter anything remotely like
> >>>full sentence structure in code, and try to apply this.  good luck.
> >>
> >> what about if the function name is verb? what if it's not a question?
> >>
> >> e.g. getRed(apple), or make(red, apple) etc.
> >
> >boolisch bekommRot( Apfel ) { }
> >mach( rot, Apfel );
> >
> >what's different from English about those two?  again, the implied
> >sentences are clear; the underlying code is equally as ungrammatical
> >in both.
> 
>   shouldn't rot in these cases follow gender of subject?

no.  the implied sentence from the latter example above, were one to
translate it into german prose, would be "mach der Apfel rot" -- "make
the apple red."  note that the adjective follows the noun, not
precedes, so the rule does not apply.

>   are you arguing that while in german language there has to be 
> agreement in gender of verb/adjective and noun when you use german
> in computer language this need suddenly disappears?

no.

i'm arguing that _neither_ english _nor_ german is perfectly suited to
code, since one needs to do some translation to get the sentence into
the form in which a human would say it.

on top of that, i'm arguing that _no_ language fits this bill.  think
about it -- if there were a human language that could be described as
easily as a computer language, we would be able to express that human
language as a finite state automaton, thereby solving the language
problem, and the whole of AI with it.  there's a reason we write in a
formal, simplified language when we code!



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Re: Gender in language (was Re: way-OT: regularity of german v. english [was: ])

2003-10-27 Thread Nori Heikkinen
just in case this hasn't been answered yet ...

on Wed, 22 Oct 2003 10:54:24PM -0500, Ron Johnson insinuated:
> On Wed, 2003-10-22 at 20:47, Erik Steffl wrote:
> > Nori Heikkinen wrote:
> > > on Sun, 19 Oct 2003 12:38:45PM -0700, Erik Steffl insinuated:
> > ...
> > >>  of course, you can create various complex and ambiguous sentences in 
> > >>english, the point is that you can take few forms of sentences and
> > >>have a working language (that's pretty much what BASIC (talking
> > >>about programming language) is).
> > > 
> > > you can do that in both languages.
> > 
> >let's say you have a function called isRed(x) (returns true if x is 
> > red). Now how would you call this function in german? it would never be 
> > in agreement with all possible x (grammatically). not sure if this is 
> > the best example - perhaps in this case it would be acceptable to use 
> > istRot, regardless of gender of x. point is you would run into problems 
> > like this trying to use german, you would very rarely come up with 
> > problems of this nature in english...
> 
> Being a native speaker of American, I've always wondered
> - What is the purpose of "gender" in grammar/language?

purpose? none.  it's just categories that certain words fall into.

> - Is it only the European/Latinate languages that have the gender
>   concept?

nope -- swahili for one.  the only languages that have just two
genders that *i* know about are the latinate languages, but that
doesn't mean there aren't more.

> - Why English doesn't have gender, since it's predecessor, German,

not to mention french,

>   does have gender?

languages evolved, pure and simple.  who's to say why this particular
feature got lost over the years?



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re:palm on debian

2003-10-27 Thread Marc Shapiro
Christophe Courtois <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

My Zire 71 was not detected by a 2.4.18 kernel (the latest is OK), so I had 
to had this in /etc/modules (try to change the value):

usbserial vendor=0x830 product=0x60
Thanks, all that I had to do was change the vendor and product number to 
match the message in /var/log/messages and use insmod.  I have added the 
line to /etc/modules now, so I should be OK after a reboot, as well.

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Re: Think I need ttyN where N>8...

2003-10-27 Thread Jerome R. Acks
On Mon, Oct 27, 2003 at 03:45:58PM +0100, Kjetil Kjernsmo wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> I'm still working with the backstreet ruby kernel Andreas Schuldei has 
> made available to get another seat on the machine. I had a breakthrough 
> yesterday. Now my (2.4) kernel runs, and I can use one graphics card. 
> Now, I just need to get the other up, with corresponding keyboard and 
> mouse.
> 
> I think I need to make more tty-devices, and I'm using devfs, so the 
> short question is: How can I make more than the usual tty0 to tty8? 
> (Because it is only those in Debian from the start, right...?)
> 
> I'm not feeling very at home in this, it is quite well above my head for 
> the moment. I have RTFM, http://www.atnf.csiro.au/people/rgooch/linux/
> docs/devfs.html#how-it-works to be specific, but I really don't 
> understand it... So I hope someone can help... :-) 
> 
> mknod something?

Since you have devfs mounted on /dev, you ought to be able to use
devices in /dev/tts directly rather than compatibility symlinks to
ttyX. If the devices are not being created, you probably need to load
a kernel module for the hardware or specify module options. Check
/var/log/messages, /var/log/kern.log, and /var/log/syslog to see what
is reported about the second graphic card during boot or when the
kernel module is loaded.
 
> 
> To make the short story long, what I tried was to run the second 
> X-server on the second graphics card. It goes:
> (++) using VT number 8
> 
> (WW) xf86OpenConsole: VT_ACTIVATE failed
> (WW) xf86OpenConsole: VT_WAITACTIVE failed
> 
> Fatal server error:
> xf86OpenConsole: VT_GETMODE failed
> 
> So, I googled for this error message, and found this:
> http://lists.jammed.com/owl-users/2001/11/0027.html
> so, it seems that I need tty9, etc. But then, when using devfs (it is 
> recommended in this setup, sort of), MAKEDEV is not an alternative. So, 
> I have to instruct devfs to make it, some way. I thought software like 
> XFree86 could register it itself, but apparently, I understand very 
> little as to how it works... 
> 
> Obviously, it could be something entirely different that's wrong with my 
> setup, in that case, advices would be very welcome too!
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Kjetil

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Getting d-link DFE-530TX NIC working

2003-10-27 Thread ScruLoose
Hi all,

I've got this machine with a D-Link DFE-530TX NIC in it, and a clean
install of woody. (not much beyond the base system at this point). 
The thing is, Debian doesn't seem happy with the NIC.  Under the
standard installation process I chose the bf24 kernel, and it refused to
configure the network on the grounds that it didn't find any network
devices...

But when I stick knoppix in, it happily accesses the network, and lsmod
shows via-rhine and mii modules (one shows as "used by" the other, but I
don't remember which way 'round)...

So I built myself a 2.4.21 kernel (that's the version knoppix was using)
from a Debian source package, built support for the via-rhine right into
the kernel, and (wonder of wonders) my new kernel boots!

Now... eth0 seems to exist, but not actually work...
ifconfig shows the usual bunch of info, except no IP address.

I've put these lines in /etc/networking/interfaces:
  auto eth0
  iface eth0 inet dhcp

I run dhclient and it exits with no complaints.
If I ifdown and ifup eth0 it looks like it's working. Specifically, ifup
says "Setting full-duplex based on MII #1 link partner capability of
45e1"
The little green light on my router says the connection is there.

But whatever I do I don't get a connection.
Ping to addresses on my LAN including the router itself returns:
  ping: sendto: Network is unreachable
  ping: wrote 192.168.1.1 64 chars, ret=-1

Ping 127.0.0.1 works.

So I'm thinking that I missed some vital step in the network
configuration, but what?
Or is it actually a failure of the driver?
I've been googling at it and reading manpages all day, but my debug-fu
seems to have failed me on this.


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Re: which one is better??

2003-10-27 Thread Mark Ferlatte
Paul Gatherum said on Mon, Oct 27, 2003 at 05:07:57PM -0800:
>  
> 
> Which NFS is better, the NFS-user-server or the NFS-kernel-server?  I
> need to set up a box on a pretty large network to dump some pretty large
> files, and share them throughout.  I have lebranet installed and have
> 400g to play with.  What would you recommend? 

kernel.

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Re: kernel upgrade issue

2003-10-27 Thread Kent West
Vivek Kumar wrote:

Hi,

I had 2.20 version installed on my system and reiserfs was not working.
So I installed kernel-image-2.4.18-386 (apt-get install
kernel-image-2.4.18-386). It did configure and then I reboot my box and
the reiserfs started working butsomehow my networking is gone. I can't
get my eth0 and eth1 up. Once I use isup eth0 command it says about
module not found or something and next time I do it it says eth0 is
already configured. What should I do to make eth0 and eth1 work.
Kindly help.
Thanks
 

If you have a Pentium-class or greater machine, you might want the 586 
or 686 variant rather than the 386 variant. The 386 should work fine, 
but the others are more "optimized" for their respective chips.

To answer your question, you probably need to load the correct module 
for your nic. Assuming it's a PCI-based nic, run "lspci" to find out 
which chipset you have (like 3Com 3c509 or Intel i810), then you can run 
"modprobe [the appropriate driver]" or run "modconf". modconf is 
menu-driven, and has the advantage of placing the module in /etc/modules 
so that the module will be available automatically at future reboots. If 
you use modprobe, you'll want to make that entry yourself. The modules 
should be available in /lib/modules/[kernel-version]/kernel/drivers/net. 
So for example, if you have a LNE100TX nic, which requires the "tulip" 
driver, you'd run "modprobe tulip". If you have a 3com 3c509, I think 
you'd want to run "modprobe 3c59x". Then restart networking with a 
command like "/etc/init.d/networking restart" (although I've had better 
success doing a "stop" followed by a "start" instead of a "restart" - I 
have no idea why). If that works, add the module name to /etc/modules 
for future reboots.

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Re: FW: Kernel panic error

2003-10-27 Thread Jerome R. Acks
On Mon, Oct 27, 2003 at 06:45:28AM +, Anim Asante wrote:
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 
> > 
> > From: Jerome R. Acks
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: 24 October 2003 03:47
> > To: Anim Asante
> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: Kernel panic error
> > 
> > 
> > On Wed, Oct 22, 2003 at 11:10:02AM +0100, Anim
> > Asante wrote:
> > 
> > > > > I have got a grub menu.lst file with a section
> > of 
> > > > the 
> > > > > file looking like this 
> > > > > ?root (hd1,0) 
> > > > > ?kernel /vmlinuz root=/dev/hdb1 
> > > > > ?boot 
> > > > > ? 
> > > > > When I restart my machine and select this
> > option, 
> > > > the 
> > > > > boot up process begins up 
> > > > > to a point and it gives the following error 
> > > > message: 
> > > > > ?Warning: unable to open an initial console. 
> > > > > ?Kernel panic: No init found. 
> > > > > ?Try passing init= option to kernel. 
> > 
> >  
> > > I do not have any problems when I use lilo. I am
> > not
> > > at my machine at the moment but I will give it a
> > try
> > > and see what happens. 
> > 
> > Can you post the pertinent section from lilo.conf?
> > 
> 
> The section from lilo.conf is as follows:
> 
> 
> boot=/dev/hda
> root=/dev/hdb7
> install=/boot/boot-menu.b
> map=/boot/map
> image=/vmlinuz initrd=/initrd.img
> label=linux
> read-only
> 
> other=/dev/hda1
> label=windows

If this section in lilo boots your kernel, a comparable section in
grub's menu.lst would be: 

title   Debian/GNU linux
root(hd1,6)
kernel  /vmlinuz root=/dev/hdb7
initrd  /initrd.img
boot

If /vmlinuz and /initrd.img are symlinks to /boot/vmlinux-2.4.xxx and
/boot/initrd.img-2.4.xxx,respectively, you should replace them with
the specific kernel and initrd filenames. The grub menu.lst would read:

title   Debian/GNU linux
root(hd1,6)
kernel  /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.xxx root=/dev/hdb7
initrd  /boot/initrd.img-2.4.xxx
boot

If /boot is in a different partition that /dev/hdb7, "root (hd1,6)"
will need to be changed to match the partition of /boot. For example:
is /boot is /dev/hdb6, the grub menu.lst would be:

title   Debian/GNU linux
root(hd1,5)
kernel  /vmlinuz-2.4.xxx root=/dev/hdb7
initrd  /initrd.img-2.4.xxx
boot

To be more definitive, you will need to spply more info. Post your
/etc/fstab and the kernel and initrd.img filenames in /boot.

If you run grub in a terminal, you can determine the appropriate file
names and root device by using grub's find command.
 
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Re: Mutt displays mail twice... :-s

2003-10-27 Thread David Palmer.
On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 19:06:20 -0500
"Derrick 'dman' Hudson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Mon, Oct 27, 2003 at 11:23:35PM +0100, Tom wrote:
> 
> | However, the longer this takes, the more I'm beginning to feel a
> | little nervous, since it undoubtedly has to do with some
> | misconfiguration of mine.
> 
> Don't be so nervous, you just get duplicate mails.  It's not the worst
> that could happen :-).
> 
> | Diff for the two messages of the above example spits out this:
> | 
> |  2c2
> |  <   ([127.0.0.1] helo=localhost ident=tom)
> |  ---
> |  >   ([127.0.0.1] helo=localhost ident=fetchmail)
> |  4,5c4,5
> |  <   id 1AEFQo-0006UD-00
> |  <   for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 23:01:46 +0100
> |  ---
> |  >   id 1AEFP1-0006St-00
> |  >   for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 22:59:55 +0100
> |  9c9
> |  <   for [EMAIL PROTECTED] (single-drop); Mon, 27 Oct 2003 23:01:46
> |  +0100(CET)
> |  ---
> |  >   for [EMAIL PROTECTED] (single-drop); Mon, 27 Oct 2003 22:59:55
> |  >   +0100(CET)
> | 
> | One of the messages seems to be delivered about a minute later than
> | the other, and it's obviously treated as a different message
> | (exim-id's differ). Me and my newbie-ness suspect it has something
> | to do with the first difference (ident=tom <-> ident=fetchmail).
> | Could someone enlighten me...?
> 
> Can you post the entire headers for both of those messages?  The first
> step will be to trace the Received: headers to see when and where the
> messages travelled.  As you've noted, the problem isn't in mutt or
> procmail.  The duplication happens before either of those programs
> becomes involved.  I suspect you are using fetchmail and for some
> reason it is handing the message to exim twice, thus you get two
> copies.  Its also conceivable that the problem lies even earlier than
> that with your mail provider, but we'll find out one step at a time.
> 
> Hmm, actually, now that I think about it, I know what the problem is.
> (How nice of exim to log 'ident' information, and how nice of your
> system to provide it!  :-D).  'ident', btw, is a mechanism whereby a
> network host can ask another one what user owns the process that has
> the socket open.  In this case it really helps identify and solve the
> problem (next paragraph ...).
> 
> You have fetchmail running twice -- once as user 'fetchmail' and once
> as user 'tom'.  Both instances are grabbing the mail from your POP box
> and passing it on to exim.  You have fetchmail set to not remove
> messages from the server, and POP has limited capability of
> identifying "read" messages, so each fetchmail ends up fetching each
> message.
> 
> The solution is to clear out your /etc/fetchmailrc.  (IMO running
> fetchmail from your user's own crontab is better than running it as a
> system-wide daemon, so I recommend keeping your ~/.fetchmailrc and
> emptying /etc/fetchmailrc.)
> 
> -D

That is a common denominator.
All I have is evolution and an unconfigured fetchmail.
Pretty basic because at this stage I'm not capable of more, but I was
double posting for about three days, and then without doing anything
about it, it just cleared up.
Regards,

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Re: [OT] Internet time (Biel Mean Time)

2003-10-27 Thread Scott C. Linnenbringer
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...excluding your .signature, quotation and attribution as well as PGP
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which one is better??

2003-10-27 Thread Paul Gatherum








 

Which NFS is better, the NFS-user-server or the NFS-kernel-server? 
I need to set up a box on a pretty large network to dump some pretty large
files, and share them throughout.  I have lebranet installed and have 400g
to play with.  What would you recommend? 

 

 








Re: Mutt displays mail twice... :-s

2003-10-27 Thread Tom
* [28/10/2003 00:49] Monique Y. Herman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> > Well, initially, I thought it was from a .forward. Afterwards, I
> > learned that today's Debian/Exim configuration doesn't need a .forward
> > to call procmail. As soon as a .procmailrc file exists in the user's
> > home directory, mail will be handed over.
> 
> Where did you find this information?  I'd like to read it myself.  I
> didn't realize that editing a .procmailrc without having procmail set up
> through a .forward could get me into trouble ...

Well, I couldn't really find an "official" statement, but there's lot of
indirect "evidence" on the web. I've spent plenty of time Googling
around for procmail, exim, and fetchmail, which is why I've seen lots of
these messages... :-)

http://www.exim.org/pipermail/exim-users/Week-of-Mon-2925/021480.html
http://www.progsoc.uts.edu.au/lists/slug/2001/May/msg00636.html

Indeed, as is mentioned quite some time, if you have a look at the
relevant part of exim.conf, Debian-exim arguably needs no .forward to
hand mail over to procmail.

<...>

> My newbie-ness agrees with you.

:-) Good to know I'm not alone.

However, I stumbled upon this:

http://lists.debian.org/debian-user-de/1999/debian-user-de-199906/msg00309.html

...which seems to suggest

* not only that a .procmailrc makes a .forward useless when that
  .forward is only meant to roll on procmail
* but *also* that it's the cause of the duplicate mails, since
  the .procmailrc puts mail in it's place, and the .forward delivers
  mail to procmail a *second* time!

I'll delete my .forward and see what happens...

> Are you using fetchmail?  What does your .fetchmailrc look like?

Yes, fetchmail. Nothing special, really.

set syslog
set postmaster "root"
set daemon 300

poll "server" with proto pop3
   user "username", with password "password", is "user" here no keep;

And some other entries like that.

I'm hoping things end up correctly now that I've gotten rid of the
.forward file...

Greets,
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Re: Spam filter recommendation

2003-10-27 Thread Brian Potkin
On Tue, Oct 28, 2003 at 01:15:26AM +1100, Rob Weir wrote:

> On Mon, Oct 27, 2003 at 11:41:57PM +1100, Brendan J Simon said
> 
> > Which are the most accurate at detecting spam?
> 
> This is a good question, and I've never seen a comparison of this.  SA +
> some simple procmail rules catches basically all my spam.

On freshmeat.net there is an article comparing some spam filters but
just at present the link serves up a blank page.  The author also has
it published at http://sam.holden.id.au/writings/.

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Courier imap (maybe procmail too?) newbie question

2003-10-27 Thread J F

I killed fetchmail and tried
to kill uw-imap then:
I did an apt-get mb2md
and converted /var/mail/USER to 
~/Maildir and also
converted the directory formerly used
by uw-imap.

Then apt-get courier-imap
and a reboot.
Now I see only my Inbox folders
(Inbox is the parent of all subfolders
now.)  I cannnot go and see most
of the subfolders any more, but can 
see a fee subfolders.
This has me stuck.
I looked in google and
http://www.inter7.com/courierimap.html
but haven't found a suggestion yet.

Also new email is stuck at /var/mail
and suppose I should install procmail
to move it to ~/Maildir. 
I already have smail (kind of like sendmail)
which sends out mail.  Hopefully, smail and
procmail will work together and this is
a good, recommend combination:
fetchmail (grabs email from ISP)
procmail (moves from /var/mail/user to ~/Maildir)
smail (sends out email to ISPs smtp port)
courier-imap

Thanks for suggestions.



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trimming posts: was: Re: rm -rf .* alternatives

2003-10-27 Thread Paul Scott
Kirk Strauser wrote:

At 2003-10-26T18:46:05Z, David Jardine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

rm -r `ls`

do the trick?
   

No; it wouldn't list files starting with '.'.  That whole line of
experimentation also fails on any filename with a space in it.
 

Thanks for trimming that so well!  I wonder how much the bandwidth on 
this list would be improved if every one else trimmed their posts this 
well!  That was a big hint for those of you who didn't trim anything in 
this thread!

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Re: phonetic symbols

2003-10-27 Thread Oki DZ
On Mon, Oct 27, 2003 at 08:17:09PM +0100, L.F. wrote:
> First of all thanks to [EMAIL PROTECTED] The fonts used in Windows
> were these: 1) WP Phonetic 2) SymbolProp B, also called WP Multinational
> Roman. 3) Times New Roman. 4) WP Greek Helve and 5) Century Gothic.
> I have Debian Knoppix, the latest version. I think the file in Debian that
> converted the Windows file ?is in MS word. I have told a friend who knows
> more than me about it and we are going to try if "Sounds like you need
> to convert from one font to another. so /schwa/ ->chr(some-number), a->a,A->,
> etc. sounds like a task for sed or perl ormaybe tr?-kev" works.

You can copy all those fonts (they are TrueType, right?) into a 
directory that can be accessed by Debian, then install OpenOffice. Run 
spadmin to add all those fonts, so that OpenOffice knows how to use 
them.

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Re: want to install testing distribution on Intel system using network install CD

2003-10-27 Thread Nick Hastings
Hi James,

* James Oldham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [031028 09:46]:
> I am new to Debian and a relative novice with Linux. I want to
> install the testing distribution on an IBM Pentium II (model
> 6285-66U, 384 ram, plenty of disk space, 4MB S3 on the motherboard).

Welcome. Tip number 1- wrap your lines at about 72 characters.

> How I use my current network install CD (which defaults to stable) to
> install the testing distribution? I've tried editing the sources
> list, changing "stable" to "testing" on each line, but my success has
> been only partial.

I think you need to be more specific. What did you do after editing
you /etc/apt/sources.list? I guess you need to do the following.

# apt-get update
# apt-get upgrade
# apt-get dist-upgrade

> The main purpose for this machine will be a file server (including
> Samba) inside my firewall, but I would like to be able to use the
> computer as a workstation occasionally. 
> 
> I've successfully installed the stable distribution over the
> internet, but I haven't figured out how to get the X server working.
> I understand that the testing distribution includes newer versions of
> XFree86 that support the S3 chipset I have. When I run startx on my
> stable install, the error message says that the file doesn't exist,
> but I have been able to run through the configuration program and
> view output file.

Run tasksel and select "X window system".

HTH,

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Re: rm -rf .* alternatives

2003-10-27 Thread John Hasler
Colin Watson writes:
> Just in case other people try this, 'rm -rf .*' is VERY DANGEROUS.
> '.*' expands to include '.' and '..', and if you happen to have
> privileges to write to the parent directory then you'll end up
> removing all directories *next* to your current directory as well!

That was true on System III, but:

toncho//tmp mkdir foo
toncho//tmp cd foo
toncho//tmp/foo touch a .b
toncho//tmp/foo mkdir c .e bar
toncho//tmp/foo cd bar
toncho//tmp/foo/bar touch .d 
toncho//tmp/foo/bar rm -rf .*
rm: cannot remove `.' or `..'
rm: cannot remove `.' or `..'
toncho//tmp/foo/bar cd ..
toncho//tmp/foo ls -a
.  ..  .b  .e  a  bar  c
toncho//tmp/foo cd ..
toncho//tmp rm -rf foo
toncho//tmp ls foo
ls: foo: No such file or directory

However, I always use something like .??* for the same reason I always type
'sync;sync' before rebooting.
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Re: Mutt displays mail twice... :-s

2003-10-27 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 at 23:58 GMT, Derrick 'dman' Hudson penned:
> 
>| I didn't realize that editing a .procmailrc without having procmail |
>set up through a .forward could get me into trouble ...
> 
> exim can be set up to handle procmail delivery directly, without the
> indirection of a .forward file.
> 

Yes, the OP made that pretty clear.

On first blush, it sounds like a bad idea.  As a user, I might be
happily editing my .procmailrc, planning to enact it only once I think
it's somewhat useable ... or I might have just copied over the contents
of another home directory, which just happened to have this file in
there.

Yeah, I know the same arguments could be made for .forward ... but at
least I've always expected .forward to be used automagically.

Speaking of .forward, if I have a .forward with procmail in it, does
exim simply ignore this, or does it override exim's director?  For
example, I have been using a .forward with contents
"|/usr/bin/procmail -p"
... has that -p argument been ignored this whole time?

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Re: remote update -> how to re-enforce

2003-10-27 Thread Nick Hastings
Hi,

* Lukas Ruf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [031028 09:43]:
> Dear all,
> 
> Debian is great for remote system administration.  Thus, I make use
> of it for several "head-less" servers that are only adminstratable by
> remote-login via network interface.  Usually, I do an upgrade/update
> at the same time for all boxes, including my Laptop.  Today, while all
> other servers were upgrading, the latest update of pcmcia-cs shut down
> the interface.
> 
> When I logged in again on the remote boxes I simply restarted the
> update process, but then I realized that dselect considers the
> update being completed totally and proposes to delete the previously
> downloaded packages even though the update process was interrupted
> before.
> 
> Is there any way how I can restart the update process such that all
> packages are truely installed?

Sorry I don't use dselect so I don't know how to get it to do this.
However I believe that I you use apt-get to do your upgrades then this
problem will be avoided automatically.

Cheers,

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Re: How can I get a working Gnome installation on a new "testing" machine?

2003-10-27 Thread Jerome R. Acks
On Sun, Oct 26, 2003 at 08:33:09AM -0500, stan wrote:
> I'm trying to build a new machine for work this weekend. I'm running out of
> weekend, and I still have not mamanged to get a working Gnome install.
> 
> What's the best way to get this working on a "testing" machine? It appears
> that there may be unmet dependencies, is this curently true?
> 

Install testing packages and the missing dependencies from
unstable. Aptitude is nice tool for doing this.

To limit packages installed from unstable and still be able to upgrade
packages, set up a /etc/apt/preferences like:

Package: *
Pin: release a=testing
Pin-Priority: 990

Package: *
Pin: release a=unstable
Pin-Priority: 100

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Re: emacs: adding default minor modes?

2003-10-27 Thread Jerome R. Acks
On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 08:30:57PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote:
> What's the easiest way for a non-LISPer to add ispell-minor-mode to be
> one of the default minor modes in emacs?
> 

In Debian's emacs21_21.2-1_i386.deb you can start flyspell-mode by typing:
M-x flyspell-mode

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Re: palm on debian

2003-10-27 Thread Erinn
One time on Mon, Oct 27, 2003 at 11:44:50AM -0500 this person named Marc Shapiro wrote:
> I am using jpilot, which also defaults to /dev/pilot.  I am in the dialout 
> group and all of the /dev/ttyUSBx device files are set to 660.  I have 
> tried using /dev/ttyUSB0-3 with no success.

Did you symlink them as per my previous instructions?

 
> My kernel is: 2.4.18-bf2.4

You need a new kernel. You should be able to apt-get install a newer
kernel-image or, if you're a wild kinda guy, build a custom one from
source. The reason is: you need better usb support (as well as a kernel
without known exploits.) 

Important modules that should be shown in lsmod:

usb-uhci
usbcore
visor
usbserial

And install hotplug. 
None of which I mentioned in my previous email. Sorry :)

> What am I doing wrong?  Am I missing a driver that needs to be loaded?  If 
> so, where do I find it and how do I load it?

You can use modprobe for any of the aforementioned modules. i.e.
modprobe usb-uhci

Follow the rest of the directions in my first email and let me know how
it goes. 

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Re: USB subsystem problems?! or only mouse?

2003-10-27 Thread Nick Hastings
Hi,

* Lorenzo Rossi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [031028 09:47]:
> Nicos,
> 
> I tried also this...to display octal caracters... but without
> results..:(
> No caracters are show on terminal...

Ok, so /dev/input/mice is not working. 

> I have the following entries in my XF86config-4 file:

Since the device seems to be not working, forget about your
XF86config-4 for now.

Do any of /dev/input/mouse0, mouse1 etc spew anything to the console
when you cat them and move the mouse? Are you sure that the mouse is
not broken (sorry perhaps you already confirmed this)?

I'm almost out ideas. What is the output of:
grep MOUSE /boot/config-`uname -r`
and what modules do you have loaded (lsmod)?

Nick.

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Re: Kernel 2.6 and framebuffer

2003-10-27 Thread Sridhar M.A.
On Mon, Oct 27, 2003 at 02:35:08AM -0400, Stephen Cormier wrote:
   > 
   > I had the same problem and I think it is the CONFIG_FB_VGA16=y that is 
   > the cause but I am not positive... 
   
Well I am now :-) Thanks for the tip. It is working now.

Regards,

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HOWTO make a server

2003-10-27 Thread Leandro Patrón Rizzo
Hi.
I'm reading a lots of HOWTO's, I want too put a linux box that sharing
internet and act as DNS server for a private network.
But, all the things that appears in those HOWTO doesn't match the files
in Debian's distribution.
Where can I find HOWTO's for networking over DEBIAN?
Thanks a lot :)
Leandro


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Re: Mutt displays mail twice... :-s

2003-10-27 Thread Derrick 'dman' Hudson
On Mon, Oct 27, 2003 at 11:23:35PM +0100, Tom wrote:

| However, the longer this takes, the more I'm beginning to feel a little
| nervous, since it undoubtedly has to do with some misconfiguration of
| mine.

Don't be so nervous, you just get duplicate mails.  It's not the worst
that could happen :-).

| Diff for the two messages of the above example spits out this:
| 
|  2c2
|  <   ([127.0.0.1] helo=localhost ident=tom)
|  ---
|  >   ([127.0.0.1] helo=localhost ident=fetchmail)
|  4,5c4,5
|  <   id 1AEFQo-0006UD-00
|  <   for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 23:01:46 +0100
|  ---
|  >   id 1AEFP1-0006St-00
|  >   for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 22:59:55 +0100
|  9c9
|  <   for [EMAIL PROTECTED] (single-drop); Mon, 27 Oct 2003 23:01:46 +0100
|  (CET)
|  ---
|  >   for [EMAIL PROTECTED] (single-drop); Mon, 27 Oct 2003 22:59:55 +0100
|  >   (CET)
| 
| One of the messages seems to be delivered about a minute later than the
| other, and it's obviously treated as a different message (exim-id's
| differ). Me and my newbie-ness suspect it has something to do with the
| first difference (ident=tom <-> ident=fetchmail). Could someone
| enlighten me...?

Can you post the entire headers for both of those messages?  The first
step will be to trace the Received: headers to see when and where the
messages travelled.  As you've noted, the problem isn't in mutt or
procmail.  The duplication happens before either of those programs
becomes involved.  I suspect you are using fetchmail and for some
reason it is handing the message to exim twice, thus you get two
copies.  Its also conceivable that the problem lies even earlier than
that with your mail provider, but we'll find out one step at a time.

Hmm, actually, now that I think about it, I know what the problem is.
(How nice of exim to log 'ident' information, and how nice of your
system to provide it!  :-D).  'ident', btw, is a mechanism whereby a
network host can ask another one what user owns the process that has
the socket open.  In this case it really helps identify and solve the
problem (next paragraph ...).

You have fetchmail running twice -- once as user 'fetchmail' and once
as user 'tom'.  Both instances are grabbing the mail from your POP box
and passing it on to exim.  You have fetchmail set to not remove
messages from the server, and POP has limited capability of
identifying "read" messages, so each fetchmail ends up fetching each
message.

The solution is to clear out your /etc/fetchmailrc.  (IMO running
fetchmail from your user's own crontab is better than running it as a
system-wide daemon, so I recommend keeping your ~/.fetchmailrc and
emptying /etc/fetchmailrc.)

-D

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Re: Mutt displays mail twice... :-s

2003-10-27 Thread Derrick 'dman' Hudson
On Mon, Oct 27, 2003 at 03:49:07PM -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote:
| On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 at 22:23 GMT, Tom penned:
| > * [27/10/2003 22:54] Monique Y. Herman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
| > 
| >> > Has anyone else experienced something like this?
| >>  
| >> How are you calling procmail?  If it's from a .forward, can we see
| >> that, too?
| > 
| > Well, initially, I thought it was from a .forward. Afterwards, I
| > learned that today's Debian/Exim configuration doesn't need a .forward
| > to call procmail. As soon as a .procmailrc file exists in the user's
| > home directory, mail will be handed over.
| 
| Where did you find this information?  I'd like to read it myself.

/etc/exim.conf

(presumably you/he are using the old exim v3.x package)

| I didn't realize that editing a .procmailrc without having procmail
| set up through a .forward could get me into trouble ...

exim can be set up to handle procmail delivery directly, without the
indirection of a .forward file.

-D

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Re: Fw: Plattenfehler

2003-10-27 Thread Ron Johnson
On Mon, 2003-10-27 at 08:59, Andreas Bohnert wrote:
> nein, christian hat schon recht:
> ein cp -a funtkioniert auf den ersten blick, aber es gibt kleinere probleme:
> 
>  ich hab das auch versucht und konnte nicht mehr mit einem normalen user
>  unter kde einloggen.
>  schau mal, ob das bei dir geht.
> 
>  weiss denn jemand, wie man richtig einen clone herstellt?

Achtung!  Also sprach zarathustra!

>  gruss
>  andreas
> 
> > - Original Message - 
> > From: "Roland M. Kruggel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 3:21 PM
> > Subject: Re: Plattenfehler
> >
> >
> > Am Montag Oktober 27 2003 00:38 schrieb Christian Schmidt:
> > > Roland M. Kruggel schrieb/wrote:
> > > > Ich habe folgendes vor.
> > > > Neue Platte einbauen. Partitionieren, Filesystem aufspielen.
> > > > cp -a alteplatte neueplatte.
> > >
> > > Und schon sind die Zugriffsrechte auf dem Zielvolume dahin...
> >
> > Nein. Alles da. Hat wunderbar funktioniert.
> >
> > > > Danach müssten alle Daten auf der neuen Platte vorhanden sein.
> > > > Jetzt müsste ich aber lilo aufrufen. Wie sag ich es jetzt lilo das
> > > > er nicht die alte platte nimmt sondern die neue Platte?
> > >
> > > man chroot.
> >
> > Das leben ist doch soo einfach - wenn man es weis :)
> >
> > Danke allen für die Hilfe. System ist auf neuer Platte. Verlußtfrei!
> >
> >
> > cu
> >
> > -- 
> > Roland Kruggel mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > System: AMD 1200Mhz, Debian woody, 2.4.20, KDE 3.1.4
> >
> >
> > -- 
> > Haeufig gestellte Fragen und Antworten (FAQ):
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Re: automating e2fsck to assume y

2003-10-27 Thread Alvin Oga

hi ya jason

On Mon, 27 Oct 2003, Jason M. Harvey wrote:
 
> i'm running ext2 - is there any way, such as in fstab, to specify "-y"
> to e2fsck if it ever needs to be run manually at startup?

when you manually run e2fsck, use -p to tell it to just go and clean it up

and once a year or so, it will clean up your inodes on the disks
with what it think it should be in its bad funky memory, destroying 
the disk

-- its a bad idea NOT to see what e2fscsk is cleaning up
   and you should NOT see too many of those fixes

-- if you see more than say 10 fixes or hundreds/thousands of sequential
   inode fixes, its too late, you've just screwed up your disk ...
a case there re-install from cdrom is merited
because you dont know that backups has the correct files
in its backups either

-- running ext3 on top of a bad ext2 wont help you

c ya
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Re: rm -rf .* alternatives (was: Re: I broke gnome2 *snff*)

2003-10-27 Thread Georg Nikodym
On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 14:10:01 +
"Karsten M. Self" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> on Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 03:28:36PM +0100, Colin Watson
> ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 11:36:25PM +0930, David Purton wrote:
> 
> > > Sadly no, I neglected to say that I could not get things to work
> > > even using a test account and doing an rm -rf .* in $HOME.
> > 
> > Just in case other people try this, 'rm -rf .*' is VERY DANGEROUS.
> > '.*' expands to include '.' and '..', and if you happen to have
> > privileges to write to the parent directory then you'll end up
> > removing all directories *next* to your current directory as well!
> 
> So what do folks do?
> 
> rm -rf .?*  # will expand to include ..

  .??*

has always been a sufficient approximation for me and easy to type (I
say approximation because it won't match things like .a)

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Re: Debian to English translation

2003-10-27 Thread Hoyt Bailey

- Original Message - 
From: "Kent West" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "debian-user" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 11:24
Subject: Re: Debian to English translation


> Alex Malinovich wrote:
>
> >On Mon, 2003-10-27 at 09:17, Hoyt Bailey wrote:
> >
> >
> >>I just read the abp-get manpage and cannot understand some references.
> >>The manpage for each option gives a useage such as APT: :GET: :PURG
> >>
> >>Lets say I want to purge kdm.  Can someone give a proper command line to
use
> >>that would be applicable to all options.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >I'm not sure what man page you're looking at, but my apt-get man page
> >clearly shows command line options with the full configuration options
> >(such as APT::Get::Purge) only at the very end of the description.
> >Purge, in particular, is shown as:
> >
> >ââpurge
> >   Use  purge instead of remove for anything that would be removed.
> >   An asterisk ("*") will be displayed next to packages  which  are
> >   scheduled to be purged.  Configuration Item: APT::Get::Purge.
> >
> >So to get back to your original question, the command line to use to
> >purge something would be "apt-get remove --purge ".
> >
> >
> >
> IIUC, if you wanted the purge to be the default behaviour rather than
> having to specify it on the command line as Alex does above, you'd
> create/edit the file /etc/apt/apt.conf and put a line in it like so:
> APT::Get::Purge
>
> Now whenever you do an "apt-get remove foo", foo not only gets removed,
> it gets purged. I think.
>
> -- 
> Kent
>
We are reading the same man page I believe.  I understand that the usage
item is the entry for apt.conf.  Now that makes sense. Thanks.
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Re: vim syntax

2003-10-27 Thread Wilko Fokken
On Sun, Oct 26, 2003 at 08:53:22AM -0500, Gregory Seidman wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 26, 2003 at 05:25:01PM +1300, Paul William wrote:
> } Hi
> } 
> } How do I have vim syntax highlighting always on instead of having to
> } type :syntax on?
> 
> Add syntax on to your .vimrc
> 
or to '/etc/vim/vimrc' for other users, too


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Re: Simple little basic config questions

2003-10-27 Thread Wilko Fokken
On Sun, Oct 26, 2003 at 07:57:20AM -0500, Haines Brown wrote:
> As for setting up basic bash configuration, a little experimentation
> shows that this is what I've got (debian 3.0r1). 
> 
> Root has both .bashrc and .profile, and the configuations (custom bash
> prompt and setterm) can go in either place. User has a .bashrc and
> .bash_profile (there's no .profile), and the configuration must go
> into the latter. It does not work for me if put into .bashrc.
> 

I once gathered this information (is this right ?):

# ~/.profile, at login autoread by all Bourne-compatible shells \
(after /etc/profile)

# ~/.profile is *NOT* executed by bash shell if ~/.bash_profile exists

# All 2nd level bash shells will read ~/.bashrc
 


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Re: inetd not being run at startup

2003-10-27 Thread Ric Otte
Aha, sure enough, only rc0.d and rc6.d have a file
   K20inetd
I assume I can fix this by typing
  update-rc.d inetd defaults
Someone please let me know if it would be a mistake to do so.  Also, I
noticed that there were several other files missing besides inetd,
such as: cron, kerneld, ppp, hwclock.sh, etc-setserial, hotplug,
urandom, networking, umountfs, and halt.  Should I also try to type
'update-rc.d NAME defaults' for them?

Thanks,

Ric

On Mon, Oct 27, 2003 at 11:32:29AM -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote:
> On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 at 15:44 GMT, Ric Otte penned:
> > I recently lost my hard drive, and after restoring, fetchmail does not
> > work.  I get the smtp failed for localhost message, and discovered
> > that exim is not running (I can't telnet to localhost 25).  Things
> > work fine if I start exim manually (/usr/sbin/exim -bd), or if I do
> > "/etc/init.d/inetd restart" or if I do "/usr/sbin/inetd".  So it looks
> > to me as if inetd is not being run at startup.  The relevant line in
> > my /etc/inetd.conf is: smtpstream  tcp nowait  mail
> > /usr/sbin/exim exim -bs Does anyone have any idea why inetd would not
> > be run at startup?  Thanks very much,
> > 
> > Ric
> > 
> > 
> 
> Looks like your links to /etc/init.d/inetd from rc?.d are borked.  Do
> you have any files that look like 
>   S20inetd 
> in any of your /etc/rc?.d directories?  (The number may be different)
> 
> 
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sudden death of mozilla firebird + gnome-sound-recorder hang

2003-10-27 Thread Timo --Blazko-- Boewing
Hello all,

Since approx two weeks, mainly two applications make enourmous problems:

mozilla-firebird and gnome-sound-recorder.

All this happended just after an apt-get upgrade. I do think that the
reason is to be found in some base libs (gtk or so?). I think i can
exlude defect versions of the named software, because both of them have
been updated since then. Totem also cause problems until yesterday but
it's problems were the same.

Mozilla Firebird issues: application suddenly closes, epsecially upon
opening of new tabs or opended menus (but not always!).
Here a strace of mozilla-firebird:

read(3, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"...,
64) = 64
gettimeofday({1067289895, 713185}, NULL) = 0
gettimeofday({1067289895, 713336}, NULL) = 0
gettimeofday({1067289895, 713399}, NULL) = 0
gettimeofday({1067289895, 713447}, NULL) = 0
kill(2581, SIGRTMIN)= 0
gettimeofday({1067289895, 713534}, NULL) = 0
gettimeofday({1067289895, 713660}, NULL) = 0
gettimeofday({1067289895, 713690}, NULL) = 0
gettimeofday({1067289895, 713726}, NULL) = 0
gettimeofday({1067289895, 713750}, NULL) = 0
write(2, "pure virtual method called\n", 27) = 27
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_UNBLOCK, [ABRT], NULL, 8) = 0
kill(2566, SIGABRT) = 0
--- SIGABRT (Aborted) @ 0 (0) ---
unlink("/home/blazko/.phoenix/default/09kafwql.slt/lock") = 0
exit_group(6)   = ?




GNOME sound recorder is another way: it opens but as soon as i want to
record, the GUI freezes. Here an strace:

ioctl(3, FIONREAD, [64])= 0
read(3, "\5\1\224\3\275y\6\0\213\0\0\0002\0\0\3\0\0\0\0\264\0H\0"...,
64) = 64
sched_get_priority_max(0)   = 0
sched_get_priority_min(0)   = 0
pipe([16, 17])  = 0
clone(child_stack=0x81778f8,
flags=CLONE_VM|CLONE_FS|CLONE_FILES|CLONE_SIGHAND) = 2496
write(17, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"...,
148) = 148
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_SETMASK, NULL, [RTMIN], 8) = 0
write(17, "[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]@PA\27\10\0\0\0\200"...,
148) = 148
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_SETMASK, NULL, [RTMIN], 8) = 0
rt_sigsuspend([] 
--- SIGRTMIN (Unknown signal 32) @ 0 (0) ---
<... rt_sigsuspend resumed> )   = -1 EINTR (Interrupted system
call)
sigreturn() = ? (mask now [RTMIN])
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_SETMASK, NULL, [RTMIN], 8) = 0
rt_sigsuspend([]
** (gnome-sound-recorder:2497): WARNING **: FIXME: guard from double
entry


Maybe you can tell me a hint? I know that a friend of mine has similar
problems w/ gnome / gtk apps. System is actual (problem resited in GNOME
2.2 and 2.6); maybe i got a problem in configs?
Most other apps do fine further, including galeon and epiphany.

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Re: [OT] - problem with java

2003-10-27 Thread Micha Feigin
On Mon, 2003-10-27 at 05:09, Bijan Soleymani wrote:
> Micha Feigin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > Hello,
> >
> > I tried replacing the internal java matlab is using (either 1.1.8 or
> > 1.3.1) since it is causing problems with window sizes.
> > I installed j2re 1.4.1 from blackdown in the right place, pointed to it
> > and add a link in /lib/i386/hotspot -> /lib/i386/client.
> > This causes matlab to start but it locks down after opening the windows
> > and starting all the threads.
> > I'm suspicious that its a thread sinc lock or something but I don't know
> > java that much.
> > Any ideas on what it could be and how to solve it?
> 
> No clue, I'm also driven mad by all the java crazyness...
> 
> But in the meantime you might try octave it's a very basic matlab
> clone and is available as a debian package. It can do the basic linear
> algebra stuff. It doesn't have all the nice toolboxes and so forth,
> but the rest is kind of there. It's better than nothing :)
> 

Octave is quite nice for linear algebra and it does have the big
advantage of being free. The problem is that I am doing image processing
which requires heavy algorithms on large matrices and proper support for
graphics (2D and 3D). Regratably octave is not up to the task.
The contour function is way to slow and unstable and its image display
support far from being flexible enough. Its about at the stage of matlab
5 (which is quite impressive for a free program).
Another nice option is the pdl extension of perl. Its fast and quite
usable. The problem with it is that its not command line drive but run
from the shell (although there is a simple command line, but it could
use history and completion functionality). Also the syntax is very
different from matlab, so porting isn't really possible.
Another thing that I have to take into account is that I have to
collaborate with colleagues in uni so I don't have much choice.

> Of course if you already know about octave then send this message to
> /dev/null :)
> 
> Bijan
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Re: reiserfs

2003-10-27 Thread Hoyt Bailey

- Original Message - 
From: "Monique Y. Herman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 12:14
Subject: Re: reiserfs


> On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 at 15:31 GMT, Vivek Kumar penned:
> > Hi there,
> >
> > I was trying to mount my removable hdd as reiserfs filesystem. It gave
> > me following error. What should I do ??
> > THE VERSION I CHECKED IS 2.2.20.
> > KINDLY HELP..
> >
> > Vivek
> >
> > mount -t reiserfs /dev/hdd1 /prod1
> > mount: fs type reiserfs not supported by kernel
> > ham:~#
> > ham:~#
> > ham:~# cd /proc
> > ham:/proc# cat version
> > Linux version 2.2.20-idepci ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 2.7.2.3)
>
> Looks like you need to get a version of the kernel that supports
> reiserfs.  Me, I'd compile my own, but I believe you can get versions of
> the kernel that support various extra options.
>
> (Hey, question for the list: as I understand it, there's the vanilla
> kernel, and then there's, say, the kernel with reiser support, the
> kernel with xyz support, etc.  If you need multiples of these, do you
> have to compile it yourself, or is there a way to get that pre-packaged?
> I personally find some perverse joy in reading through all the options
> and rolling my own, but I'm curious about how the other side lives.)
>
> -- 
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> Unless you need to share ultra-sensitive super-spy stuff with me, please
> don't email me directly.  I will most likely see your post before I read
> your mail, anyway.
>
Speaking for myself only.  I have to make do with whatever is provided.  I
am trying to learn to speak debian but it is tough when words have meanings
that arnt in the dic. see there is one I know its dictionary but to save
time or whatever we all slip up now and again. BTW I assume it means by the
way, but I have seen it used where that didnt make any sense and when that
is carried over into a technical subject katy bar the door and keep the
kooks in.
Hoyt (Sorry I'm flustered)



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re:palm on debian

2003-10-27 Thread Christophe Courtois
Le Lundi 27 Octobre 2003 17:44, Marc Shapiro a déclamé :

> Oct 27 11:37:24 local kernel: usb.c: USB device 11 (vend/prod
> 0x82d/0x100) is not claimed by any active driver.
> What am I doing wrong?  Am I missing a driver that needs to be loaded? 
> If so, where do I find it and how do I load it?

 My Zire 71 was not detected by a 2.4.18 kernel (the latest is OK), so I 
had to had this in /etc/modules (try to change the value):

usbserial vendor=0x830 product=0x60

 My 0.0.2¤

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Re: Mutt displays mail twice... :-s

2003-10-27 Thread David Palmer.
On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 20:20:10 +0100
Tom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hey,
> 
> Not sure what I'm doing wrong, but Mutt displays some mail twice,
> which is quite annoying. I was only getting started with
> exim/procmail/mutt, and it worked correctly for about two days. Exim
> hands mail over to procmail since I have a .procmailrc file, and the
> only thing that file contains right now is 
> 
> :0
> *
> ${MAILDIR}/inbox/
> 
> apart from some variables (MAILDIR, LOGFILE etc.). 
> 
> I've put a screenshot, my .mutt/muttrc and my .procmailrc online at
> www.verbreyt.be/tmp/, although I'm not sure what could be in there
> that causes this behaviour. The screenshot shows how three mails are
> displayed twice.
> 
> Has anyone else experienced something like this?
> 
> Greets,
> Tom
> 
Yep,
In evolution. It was working normally, and then for some reason it
started serving up double posts, when I ignored it the problem
disappeared.
I just put it down to attention deficiency syndrome.
Regards,

David.


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nfssvc: Function not implemented

2003-10-27 Thread Vivek Kumar
Hi all,

I got the following error while trying ot start nfs server:
nfssvc: Function not implemented
Also when I do ps -ef | grep rpc I get follwoing:
/usr/sbin/rpc.mountd --no-nfs-version 3

Any help.. 
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Getting HP to support Debian

2003-10-27 Thread Kianusch Sayah Karadji
Hi!

So here we are trying to convince HP to support Debian!

What we need are some figure.  We've to tell HP that there are lot's of
people/sysadmins out there who use Debian on HP Server or consider using
buying HP-Hardware if they'd support Debian.

HP claims, that since Debian has not figures on how many users it has on
HP-Servers, they do not know if supporting Debian would make sense.

So please provide us with Information! If you use Debian on HP-Servers or
know some company who does, please let us know:

  Company
  How many HP/Compaq Servers
  (Model ?)
  Debian Version

We will collect those information and pass this info to somebody in
conatct with HP.

Send this information via eMail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]  If you do want to
be kept on a list, regarding infomation about this initiative, state this
in your eMail.  Otherwise you will not be contacted regarding this issue
any more!

Thanx for your Support!

K. Sayah Karadji

P.S. For now you could check this page regarding "Debian on HP-Servers":

  http://www.sk-tech.net/

and

  http://www.sk-tech.net/support/cmastor.html


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3Ware SATA Raid

2003-10-27 Thread rahul jadhav
Hi All!
I am trying to put together a Debian server with 3Wares Escalade 7000 Series 2 port 
SATA Controller and Seagate drives. I am a little nervous about the motherboard. I was 
thinking of getting an Intel (anyone of S845WD1, D845GEB, D865GBFLK).
I'd like to know if anyone has had a smooth run with some specific board. I do not 
have much time to experiment with the newer boards with onboard controllers. (Are any 
of those supported yet?)
Any additional info about Debian and SATA Raid also welcome.
Please Help!
Thanks!

Rahul

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Re: Mutt displays mail twice... :-s

2003-10-27 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 at 22:23 GMT, Tom penned:
> * [27/10/2003 22:54] Monique Y. Herman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
>> > Has anyone else experienced something like this?
>>  
>> How are you calling procmail?  If it's from a .forward, can we see
>> that, too?
> 
> Well, initially, I thought it was from a .forward. Afterwards, I
> learned that today's Debian/Exim configuration doesn't need a .forward
> to call procmail. As soon as a .procmailrc file exists in the user's
> home directory, mail will be handed over.

Where did you find this information?  I'd like to read it myself.  I
didn't realize that editing a .procmailrc without having procmail set up
through a .forward could get me into trouble ...

[snip]

> However, the longer this takes, the more I'm beginning to feel a
> little nervous, since it undoubtedly has to do with some
> misconfiguration of mine.
> 
> Diff for the two messages of the above example spits out this:
> 
>  2c2 <   ([127.0.0.1] helo=localhost ident=tom) ---
> >   ([127.0.0.1] helo=localhost ident=fetchmail)
>  4,5c4,5 <   id 1AEFQo-0006UD-00 <   for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Mon,
>  27 Oct 2003 23:01:46 +0100 ---
> >   id 1AEFP1-0006St-00 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Mon, 27 Oct 2003
> >   22:59:55 +0100
>  9c9 <   for [EMAIL PROTECTED] (single-drop); Mon, 27 Oct 2003
>  23:01:46 +0100 (CET) ---
> >   for [EMAIL PROTECTED] (single-drop); Mon, 27 Oct 2003 22:59:55
> >   +0100 (CET)
> 
> One of the messages seems to be delivered about a minute later than
> the other, and it's obviously treated as a different message
> (exim-id's differ). Me and my newbie-ness suspect it has something to
> do with the first difference (ident=tom <-> ident=fetchmail). Could
> someone enlighten me...?
> 

My newbie-ness agrees with you.

I poked at a few of the messages in my mailbox, and none of them seem to
have the ident= thing at all.  I don't know what that signifies.

Are you using fetchmail?  What does your .fetchmailrc look like?

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chkrootkit found lkm trojan ?

2003-10-27 Thread Micha Feigin
I got the following output from chkrootkit but couldn't find any
explenation on what processes don't appear:

Checking `lkm'... You have 4 process hidden for ps command
Warning: Possible LKM Trojan installed

How do I check this?

I also got:
Checking `wted'... 1 deletion(s) between Tue Oct  7 01:50:13 2003 and
Tue Oct  7 20:35:04 2003
3 deletion(s) between Sun Oct 19 03:28:06 2003 and Sun Oct 19 12:34:28
2003
2 deletion(s) between Mon Oct 27 11:24:33 2003 and Mon Oct 27 11:26:26
2003
3 deletion(s) between Mon Oct 27 11:47:15 2003 and Wed Mar 28 22:05:08
2029
2 deletion(s) between Mon Oct 28 02:42:27 2030 and Mon Oct 27 13:34:04
2003
nothing deleted

I have reiserfs and had quite a few crashes lately due to some problem
with my instellation. Any ideas?
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Re: http authentication , apache , .htaccess

2003-10-27 Thread Haim Ashkenazi
Lucio de Aquino Marinho wrote:

> 
> 
> 
>   Hello for all ,,
> 
> 
>i have a problem with debian unstable , apache , and nagios-text ,
> 
>  Everything is ok ,  but the apache do not authenticate  , someone can
> help-me
> 
> 
> 
> httpd.conf
> 
> 
> ScriptAlias /nagios/cgi-bin/ /usr/lib/cgi-bin/nagios/
> 
> 
> AllowOverride AuthConfig
> Order allow,deny
> Allow from all
> Options ExecCGI
> 
> 
> 
> Alias /nagios/ /usr/share/nagios/htdocs/
> 
> #Options None
> AllowOverride AuthConfig
> Order allow,deny
> Allow from all
> 
> 
> 
> -
> .htaccess
> 
> AuthName "Teste"
> AuthType Basic
> AuthUserFile /etc/nagios/htpasswd.users
> require valid-user
> 
> 
> 
AFAIK the default apache configuration ignores '.htaccess' files. search for
"AllowOverride" in '/etc/apache/httpd.con' and change it from "None" to
something else, it's documented.

Bye

> 
> apache log
> 
> Fri Oct 24 11:34:50 2003] [notice] Accept mutex: sysvsem (Default:
> sysvsem)
> [Fri Oct 24 11:34:54 2003] [error] user nagiosadmin not found:
> /nagios/cgi-bin/status.cgi
> [Fri Oct 24 11:34:57 2003] [error] user nagiosadmin not found:
> /nagios/cgi-bin/status.cgi
> [Fri Oct 24 11:58:52 2003] [error] user nagiosadmin not found:
> /nagios/cgi-bin/status.cgi
> [Fri Oct 24 11:58:56 2003] [error] user nagiosadmin not found:
> /nagios/cgi-bin/status.cgi
> [Fri Oct 24 12:02:28 2003] [notice] SIGHUP received.  Attempting to
> [restart Fri Oct 24 12:02:29 2003] [notice] Apache/1.3.28 (Debian
> [GNU/Linux)
> configured -- resuming normal operations
> [Fri Oct 24 12:02:29 2003] [notice] Accept mutex: sysvsem (Default:
> [sysvsem) Fri Oct 24 12:02:35 2003] [error] user nagiosadmin not found:
> /nagios/cgi-bin/status.cgi
> [Fri Oct 24 12:02:38 2003] [error] user nagiosadmin not found:
> /nagios/cgi-bin/status.cgi
> [Fri Oct 24 12:02:41 2003] [error] user nagiosadmin not found:
> /nagios/cgi-bin/status.cgi
> 
> 
> -
> 
>  
>  htpasswd.users
> 
> 
> nagiosadmin:vQ6Q9/zGRqvH2
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks  for any help

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Re: Removing unused modules from initrd image

2003-10-27 Thread Doug MacFarlane

The modules in the initrd image aren't what's running after your machine
boots, just a superset of what you need in order to boot your machine.

If you have a bunch of modules that are loading and are unused, use modconf
to deselect them and restart.

madmac

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Subject: Removing unused modules from initrd image


> I instaled kernel-image-2.4.22-1-k7 recently. This boots using initrd.
> After booting lsmid shows a lot of modules that are unused and I dont
> require them. I would like to know some way by which I can remove those
> modules from my initrd image so that they arent loaded automatically.
>
> I am not subscribed to the debian user list would appreciate it if the
> reply can be cc'ed to me.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bharath
>
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Re: Debian to English translation

2003-10-27 Thread Hoyt Bailey

- Original Message - 
From: "JG" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 12:06
Subject: Re: Debian to English translation


> Hi,
>
> "Hoyt Bailey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > I just read the abp-get manpage and cannot understand some references.
> > The manpage for each option gives a useage such as APT: :GET: :PURG
> >
>
> Each option has two "names" (simplifying). The first name is the one you
> would give in the command line (if you want to use that option), whereas
> the second (the APT:Get...) is the one that you would write in the
> configuration file (/etc/apt.conf) if you want to make it permanent. For
> exapmle:
>
>--download-only
>   Download only; package files are only retrieved,  not
unpacked
>   or installed.  Configuration Item: APT::Get::Download-Only.
>
>
> So, if you want to download  kdm, without actually installing it, you
> would say:
>
> $ apt-get install --download-only kdm
>
> If you want to make that option permanent (you want to never install
> packages by default, only download them) you would add a line
>
> APT::Get::Download-Only
>
> to the file /etc/apt.conf
>
> > Lets say I want to purge kdm.  Can someone give a proper command line to
use
> > that would be applicable to all options.
>
> $ apt-get remove --purge kdm
>
> But, I would advise you to use some front-end to apt, instead of the
> apt-get command line. Specially while you are learning. Several of them
> exist e.g.: dselect (the default one, works in console or x-term),
>aptitude (also works in the console, it has more features than
> dselect)
>synaptic (graphical front-end)
>
> And some more.
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Jaume
>
> -- 
> Please answer to the group/list. Don't CC me.
>
OK.  I still dont understand. What I understand you to be saying is that the
usage info is incorrect, unless there is something I dont know(a lot it
appears). The usage should be :APT: :GET: :OPTION: :--PURGE: :. Or
APT: :GET: :OPTION: :--download-only: :.  This dosent make much
sense unless there are other applications for APT like :APT: :PUT: :OPTION:
:--PURGE: :(not logical for example only).  The OPTION in the two
cases you mention would be install or remove & perhaps others. Is the third
item (as written) always introduced with --.

This is why I have such difficulty with linux the documentation is so
clearly written.  But debian is better than most
Regards,
Hoyt



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Re: Cursor dust

2003-10-27 Thread Mark Ferlatte
Keresztes József said on Mon, Oct 27, 2003 at 10:54:12PM +0100:
> And this time when the cursor move to another place it leaves 
> a line, or a part of a line.
 
Sounds like you probably should try turning off the hardware cursor in X.  Try
setting the SWCursor option in the Device section of /etc/X11/XF86Config-4.

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Re: reiserfs

2003-10-27 Thread Micha Feigin
On Mon, 2003-10-27 at 18:03, Rohan Nicholls wrote:
> At 27 Oct 2003 10:31:01 -0500,
> Vivek Kumar wrote:
> > 
> > Hi there,
> > 
> > I was trying to mount my removable hdd as reiserfs filesystem. It gave
> > me following error. What should I do ??
> > THE VERSION I CHECKED IS 2.2.20.
> > KINDLY HELP..
> > 
> > Vivek
> > 
> > mount -t reiserfs /dev/hdd1 /prod1
> > mount: fs type reiserfs not supported by kernel
> 

iirc reiserfs is not supported by stock 2.2 kernels and you need to
compile the kernel with a patch, you could try
kernel-image-2.2.20-reiserfs or 2.4 kernels.
I saw in the thread that you also head problems with network after
upgrade. You could try sending the output of lspci -vv and I will try to
recognize the card module.

> Looks like your kernel does not have reiserfs support compiled into
> it.  You will need to recompile your kernel, and make sure that in the
> filesystem section of the configuration you select support for
> reiserfs.  
> 
> There is a debian way to compile the kernel, which sounds very good,
> but I have never used it, I just followed the instructions in the
> HOWTO, 
> 

You need the kernel-package package, don't remember what others
(libncurses or something like that for the graphic setup).
You then do a make xconfig/menuconfig to config the kernel (It can be
hard the first few times) and then to build the kernel (debian way):
make-kpkg --revision= kernel-image
You will then get a deb one directory up which you install using
dpkg -i kernel-image-.deb
Try looking in /usr/share/doc/kernel-package/README.gz after you install
the package.

> http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Kernel-HOWTO/index.html
> 
> It tends to be rpm based, but just look for the sources you need:
> 
> apt-cache search kernel-sources |grep -i '2\.2\.20'
> might get the package name, but as I stuck working in windows at the
> moment, can't be sure.
> 
> Once you have the name of the kernel-source package you want:
> 
> aptitude install 
> 
> That should put it in /usr/src
> 
> And that should be all you need unless you have some patches you need
> to apply for other things, but if it is only reiserfs you want you
> should be away to the races.
> 
> Btw. I have spent a fair amount of time compiling kernels, and if you
> follow the instructions it is very straightforward.  The nice thing
> about it is that you can have a kernel configured specifically for
> your hardware needs, and nothing else, and your system will speed up
> dramatically.
> 
> Good luck, and please straighten me out on anything that is incorrect
> anyone else on the list.
> 
> rohan
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Re: nfs problem

2003-10-27 Thread Kjetil Kjernsmo
On Monday 27 October 2003 22:01, Vivek Kumar wrote:
> I am trying to mount a directory as nfs filesystem from other
> machine. I am getting RPC error on other machine and it says 
> (Host linux box) is not responding. Though I can ping to the linux
> box from there and also I can telnet ot it.

What ports are open? Perhaps you've firewalled off some of the ports you 
need. nmap it, perhaps?

Best,

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Re: Mutt displays mail twice... :-s

2003-10-27 Thread benoit
Message de Tom, le lundi 27 octobre :
> Not sure what I'm doing wrong, but Mutt displays some mail twice, which
> is quite annoying.


mutt displays your mails twice, because they are like this in the
mailbox. you can see it thanks to the = sign in the arrow. look for
configuration problems oustside of mutt.

meanwhile, you can delete doubles like this :
bind index i 
i~=
;d



ps: please, next time just take a screenshot of your term, not the root
window, not everybody has dsl...



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Re: Mutt displays mail twice... :-s

2003-10-27 Thread Tom
* [27/10/2003 22:54] Monique Y. Herman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> > Has anyone else experienced something like this?
>  
> How are you calling procmail?  If it's from a .forward, can we see that,
> too?

Well, initially, I thought it was from a .forward. Afterwards, I learned
that today's Debian/Exim configuration doesn't need a .forward to call
procmail. As soon as a .procmailrc file exists in the user's home
directory, mail will be handed over.

But there is indeed this .forward file, which pipes mail through
procmail: 

|/usr/bin/procmail

> I doubt that it's actually *mutt* displaying the message twice, but just
> in case, have you tried another mail reader?  Do pine or elm show
> multiple messages?

Well, I did to be able to reply to this... :-/ However, my mail is in
Maildir-format, and pine doesn't seem to like it (nor does elm, for that
matter).

At this moment (as at all others), several duplicate mails are in my
inbox. For instance, one written by Vivek Kumar, with a subject of "nfs
problem. When I have a look in ~/Mail/inbox/, I see -- indeed -- two
mails that are exactly the same...

However, the longer this takes, the more I'm beginning to feel a little
nervous, since it undoubtedly has to do with some misconfiguration of
mine.

Diff for the two messages of the above example spits out this:

 2c2
 <   ([127.0.0.1] helo=localhost ident=tom)
 ---
 >   ([127.0.0.1] helo=localhost ident=fetchmail)
 4,5c4,5
 <   id 1AEFQo-0006UD-00
 <   for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 23:01:46 +0100
 ---
 >   id 1AEFP1-0006St-00
 >   for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 22:59:55 +0100
 9c9
 <   for [EMAIL PROTECTED] (single-drop); Mon, 27 Oct 2003 23:01:46 +0100
 (CET)
 ---
 >   for [EMAIL PROTECTED] (single-drop); Mon, 27 Oct 2003 22:59:55 +0100
 >   (CET)

One of the messages seems to be delivered about a minute later than the
other, and it's obviously treated as a different message (exim-id's
differ). Me and my newbie-ness suspect it has something to do with the
first difference (ident=tom <-> ident=fetchmail). Could someone
enlighten me...?

Greets,
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Cursor dust

2003-10-27 Thread Keresztes József
Hi everybody !

I use Debian 3.0/stable with 2.4.18 and 2.4.20 kernel.
The GUI are KDE2 and Gnome 1.4. My debian packages I always 
refresh with "apt-get update" and "apt-get upgrade" commands.
I have got this problem for a year since I used Debian.
I put the question to hungarian linux and debian mailing lists,
but I have not got any real answer.  

My problem is that using some program, the cursor leaves dust behind it.
When I move the cursor with the left-key, right-key, up-key, down-key,
and it also leaves dust when I move the scroll-bar up or down.
And this time when the cursor move to another place it leaves 
a line, or a part of a line.

Fortunately, I don't meet with this problem at most of the programs
(kedit, konqueror, netscape 4.x, gftp, xterm, kword, kmail, ...).

But I meet with this problem in the following program:
Abiword, Mozilla, Netscape 7.x, Eclipse (java development tool).

I try KDE and also GNOME but I meet this problem.

Is it possible that the above mentioned programs are wrong,
and developers wrote this program wrongly to move the cursor  ?

Is it possible that the cursor moving has been written in not this programs,
but then this programs call the modul of the operating system,
but this modul works wrongly ?

I thought that the problem will be solved itself with the help kernel changes,
or with the help of refresh debian-packages, but this didn't help me. 

Have somebody ever meet with this problem ?
What is the solution ?

Joe


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Re: inetd not being run at startup

2003-10-27 Thread Richard Otte
Aha, sure enough, only rc0.d and rc6.d have a file 
   K20inetd
I assume I can fix this by typing
  update-rc.d inetd defaults
Someone please let me know if it would be a mistake to do so.  Also, I
noticed that there were several other files missing besides inetd,
such as: cron, kerneld, ppp, hwclock.sh, etc-setserial, hotplug,
urandom, networking, umountfs, and halt.  Should I also try to type
'update-rc.d NAME defaults' for them?

Thanks,

Ric

On Mon, Oct 27, 2003 at 11:32:29AM -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote:
> On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 at 15:44 GMT, Ric Otte penned:
> > I recently lost my hard drive, and after restoring, fetchmail does not
> > work.  I get the smtp failed for localhost message, and discovered
> > that exim is not running (I can't telnet to localhost 25).  Things
> > work fine if I start exim manually (/usr/sbin/exim -bd), or if I do
> > "/etc/init.d/inetd restart" or if I do "/usr/sbin/inetd".  So it looks
> > to me as if inetd is not being run at startup.  The relevant line in
> > my /etc/inetd.conf is: smtpstream  tcp nowait  mail
> > /usr/sbin/exim exim -bs Does anyone have any idea why inetd would not
> > be run at startup?  Thanks very much,
> > 
> > Ric
> > 
> > 
> 
> Looks like your links to /etc/init.d/inetd from rc?.d are borked.  Do
> you have any files that look like 
>   S20inetd 
> in any of your /etc/rc?.d directories?  (The number may be different)
> 
> 
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Re: List mail being redirected?

2003-10-27 Thread Haines Brown
Thanks for letting me know my message got through. I'm only at the
point of setting up the X windows system in my debian installation, so
can't yet cruise cyberspace to check the archives. At present, my X
server starts, but all I get is a blank blue screen. I try to start
icewm (it seems to be ready to run) by adding an exec into
/etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc and in ~/.Xinitrc, but nothing happens. When I  
get this straightened out, and get my browser going, debian list
archives will be one of the first places I'll head ;-)

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Re: USB subsystem problems?! or only mouse?

2003-10-27 Thread Nicos Gollan
On Monday 27 October 2003 21:28, Lorenzo Rossi wrote:
> The first mouse is a logitech on ps2 port, and it works.
> The second is the Logitech usb that does not work...

Have a look at the BIOS. If there is an option like "PS/2 emulation for USB 
mouse", make sure it is disabled. Normally it should not cause this kind of 
problems but it's worth a try.

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Re: Think I need ttyN where N>8...

2003-10-27 Thread Kjetil Kjernsmo
On Monday 27 October 2003 19:10, Chris Niekel wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 27, 2003 at 03:45:58PM +0100, Kjetil Kjernsmo wrote:
> > I think I need to make more tty-devices, and I'm using devfs, so
> > the short question is: How can I make more than the usual tty0 to
> > tty8? (Because it is only those in Debian from the start,
> > right...?)
> >
> > I'm not feeling very at home in this, it is quite well above my
> > head for the moment. I have RTFM,
> > http://www.atnf.csiro.au/people/rgooch/linux/
> > docs/devfs.html#how-it-works to be specific, but I really don't
> > understand it... So I hope someone can help... :-)
>
> manual> When a lookup operation on an entry is performed and if there
> is no manual> driver information for that entry devfs will attempt to
> call devfsd.
>
> After reading that link a bit, I think it should be handled by
> devfsd. 

Yeah, I thought so too. 

> Do you have that running?

It is running, yes:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~> ps ax | grep devfsd
   23 ?S  0:00 /sbin/devfsd /dev
(I found that if devfsd isn't running and devfs is attempted mounted, a 
"bad superblock" message will stop the bootup. It put me off for 
several days.)

Hm, I have the devfs=mount line in my lilo.conf, and compiled into the 
kernel that it should be loaded at bootup. And dmesg says:
devfs: v1.12c (20020818) Richard Gooch ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
devfs: boot_options: 0x1
and 
Mounted devfs on /dev

But now, it seems like it isn't mounted... Weird.
mount says:
 
/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part1 on / type ext3 
(rw,errors=remount-ro)
proc on /proc type proc (rw)
devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620)
/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part2 on /usr type ext3 (rw)
/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part3 on /home type ext3 (rw,noexec)
/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target1/lun0/part1 on /tmp type ext3 
(rw,nosuid,nodev)
/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part9 on /var type ext3 (rw)
/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part5 on /home/felles type ext3 (rw)
/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part6 on /usr/local/src type ext3 (rw)
/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target1/lun0/part5 on /var/junk type ext2 
(rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)

Any ideas...?

Best,

Kjetil
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nfs problem

2003-10-27 Thread Vivek Kumar
Hi,

I am trying to mount a directory as nfs filesystem from other machine. I
am getting RPC error on other machine and it says  (Host linux box)
is not responding. Though I can ping to the linux box from there and
also I can telnet ot it.
What is that I am missing. Any suggestion.

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Re: List mail being redirected?

2003-10-27 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 at 17:44 GMT, Haines Brown penned:
> Sorry if this has been brought up before, but a message I send to this
> list this morning seems to have been redirectected at some point to a
> different domain:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] The following address had permanent fatal
> errors [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> I don't know if this redirection occurred before my message was
> distributed to the list, or as a result of that distribution. I'd
> appreciate knowing if anyone saw my message arrive. I don't recall the
> exact subject line, but it had to do with aptitude installation of
> kernel-headers. 
> 
> Haines Brown
> 

I've been getting a bunch of these, too.

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Re: Mutt displays mail twice... :-s

2003-10-27 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 at 19:20 GMT, Tom penned:
> Hey,
> 
> Not sure what I'm doing wrong, but Mutt displays some mail twice,
> which is quite annoying. I was only getting started with
> exim/procmail/mutt, and it worked correctly for about two days. Exim
> hands mail over to procmail since I have a .procmailrc file, and the
> only thing that file contains right now is 
> 
>:0 * ${MAILDIR}/inbox/
> 
> apart from some variables (MAILDIR, LOGFILE etc.). 
> 
> I've put a screenshot, my .mutt/muttrc and my .procmailrc online at
> www.verbreyt.be/tmp/, although I'm not sure what could be in there
> that causes this behaviour. The screenshot shows how three mails are
> displayed twice.
> 
> Has anyone else experienced something like this?


How are you calling procmail?  If it's from a .forward, can we see that,
too?

I doubt that it's actually *mutt* displaying the message twice, but just
in case, have you tried another mail reader?  Do pine or elm show
multiple messages?

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Re: automating e2fsck to assume y

2003-10-27 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 at 17:49 GMT, ScruLoose penned:
> Wouldn't it make more sense to switch to a journalling fs such as
> ext3? I believe you can switch from ext2 to ext3 non-destructively...

Completely non-destructively.  You can also choose to mount an ext3
drive as ext2 after you've converted it.  Obviously, you don't get the
journalling support that way.

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Re: Insidious Spam/swen/Garbage

2003-10-27 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 at 17:59 GMT, Tom penned:
> On Mon, Oct 27, 2003 at 09:16:55AM -0800, Vineet Kumar wrote:
>> You're using a plaintext pop password on the wire and you're worried
>> about some file in your home directory?
> 
> I use the SSL option in my .fetchmailrc, so I hope my pwd and more
> importantly email bodies come over the cable modem encrypted.
> 
> The only thing I can't figure out is how to tell exim to talk to the
> smarthost with SSL, I guess people can read my upstream email.
> 

Even if exim spoke SSL to the smarthost, the email would still be
plaintext between there and the originator.  At least, I think that's
how it works.  If you really want to hide the contents of your email,
encrypt the actual message ... of course, that still doesn't hide the
sender or recipient.

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Removing unused modules from initrd image

2003-10-27 Thread Bharath Ramesh
I instaled kernel-image-2.4.22-1-k7 recently. This boots using initrd.
After booting lsmid shows a lot of modules that are unused and I dont
require them. I would like to know some way by which I can remove those
modules from my initrd image so that they arent loaded automatically.

I am not subscribed to the debian user list would appreciate it if the
reply can be cc'ed to me.

Thanks,

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Re: USB subsystem problems?! or only mouse?

2003-10-27 Thread Lorenzo Rossi
Nicos,

I tried also this...to display octal caracters... but without
results..:(
No caracters are show on terminal...
I have the following entries in my XF86config-4 file:

The first mouse is a logitech on ps2 port, and it works.
The second is the Logitech usb that does not work...

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Configured Mouse"
Driver  "mouse"
Option  "CorePointer"
Option  "Device""/dev/psaux"
Option  "Protocol"  "PS/2"
Option  "Emulate3Buttons"   "true"
Option  "ZAxisMapping"  "4 5"
EndSection

.

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Logitech MX700"
Driver  "mouse"
Option  "SendCoreEvents" 
Option  "Device""/dev/input/mice"
#   Option  "Protocol"  "ExplorerPS/2"
Option  "Protocol"  "ImPS/2"
Option  "Emulate3Buttons"   "false"
Option  "ZAxisMapping"  "6 7"
Option  "Buttons"   "7"
EndSection

I do not know..what test can I do?

Thanks
Lorenzo

Il lun, 2003-10-27 alle 16:24, Nicos Gollan ha scritto:
> On Monday 27 October 2003 08:08, Nick Hastings wrote:
> > What happens if you
> >
> > cat /dev/input/mice
> >
> > and then move the mouse? Does a bunch of stuff spew onto your terminal?
> 
> I'd consider doing something like
> 
> cat /dev/input/mice | od
> 
> since this takes care of the nonprintable characters and you don't have to 
> reset the terminal afterwards :-)
> 
> Just look if stuff is printed when you move the mouse or press buttons, as 
> Nick said.
> 
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Re: USB subsystem problems?! or only mouse?

2003-10-27 Thread Lorenzo Rossi
Nicos,

I tried also this...to display octal caracters... but without
results..:(
No caracters are show on terminal...
I have the following entries in my XF86config-4 file:

The first mouse is a logitech on ps2 port, and it works.
The second is the Logitech usb that does not work...

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Configured Mouse"
Driver  "mouse"
Option  "CorePointer"
Option  "Device""/dev/psaux"
Option  "Protocol"  "PS/2"
Option  "Emulate3Buttons"   "true"
Option  "ZAxisMapping"  "4 5"
EndSection

.

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Logitech MX700"
Driver  "mouse"
Option  "SendCoreEvents" 
Option  "Device""/dev/input/mice"
#   Option  "Protocol"  "ExplorerPS/2"
Option  "Protocol"  "ImPS/2"
Option  "Emulate3Buttons"   "false"
Option  "ZAxisMapping"  "6 7"
Option  "Buttons"   "7"
EndSection

I do not know..what test can I do?

Thanks
Lorenzo

Il lun, 2003-10-27 alle 16:24, Nicos Gollan ha scritto:
> On Monday 27 October 2003 08:08, Nick Hastings wrote:
> > What happens if you
> >
> > cat /dev/input/mice
> >
> > and then move the mouse? Does a bunch of stuff spew onto your terminal?
> 
> I'd consider doing something like
> 
> cat /dev/input/mice | od
> 
> since this takes care of the nonprintable characters and you don't have to 
> reset the terminal afterwards :-)
> 
> Just look if stuff is printed when you move the mouse or press buttons, as 
> Nick said.
> 
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Re: USB subsystem problems?! or only mouse?

2003-10-27 Thread Lorenzo Rossi
Nick,

the entry I have in my XF86config-4 file are the following:

The first mouse is a logitech on ps2 port, and it works.
The second is the Logitech usb that does not work...

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Configured Mouse"
Driver  "mouse"
Option  "CorePointer"
Option  "Device""/dev/psaux"
Option  "Protocol"  "PS/2"
Option  "Emulate3Buttons"   "true"
Option  "ZAxisMapping"  "4 5"
EndSection

.

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Logitech MX700"
Driver  "mouse"
Option  "SendCoreEvents" 
Option  "Device""/dev/input/mice"
#   Option  "Protocol"  "ExplorerPS/2"
Option  "Protocol"  "ImPS/2"
Option  "Emulate3Buttons"   "false"
Option  "ZAxisMapping"  "6 7"
Option  "Buttons"   "7"
EndSection

As you can see I have the line "device" "/dev/input/mice"...but when I
execute the command "cat /dev/input/mice" and I move, and I use
buttons...nothing happend...no caracters are show..:(

Do you have any ideas..?!

thanks
Lorenzo

Il lun, 2003-10-27 alle 08:08, Nick Hastings ha scritto:
> Hi,
> 
> * Lorenzo Rossi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [031027 15:57]:
> > I'm sorry Nicos...for the reply..I did not see the "to:"
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks for your suggestions Nicos,
> > 
> > I have mounted, as you explain, the usbfs, and now I can see devices
> > with command "lsusb", and also following the path /proc/bus/usb/.
> > 
> > I have only 2 usb devices, one is an hub and the other is a usb mouse.
> > The usb mouse, as I said, does not work, but I was not so precise
> > concerning the "does not work"...
> > 
> > Under the path "/dev/input/", I have the following devices:
> > 
> > event0  event2  js0  js2  micemouse1  mouse3
> > event1  event3  js1  js3  mouse0  mouse2
> > 
> > I think I have set up my mouse correctly for X.
> > Checking the X log files, all seem ok!
> 
> Do you have a line like the following in your XF86config-4 file?
> Option  "Device""/dev/input/mice"
>   
> > But the mouse does not move the pointer!
> 
> What happens if you 
> 
> cat /dev/input/mice 
> 
> and then move the mouse? Does a bunch of stuff spew onto your terminal?
> 
> Nick.


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Apt-get problems when my PC freeze

2003-10-27 Thread Juan Pablo Valenzuela
My pc freezes when I were doing a dist upgrade and I restarted in the hard
way. Now the apt-get doesn't work. This is the error:

After unpacking 0B of additional disk space will be used.
(Reading database ... 106117 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to replace diff 2.8.1-4 (using .../archives/diff_2.8.1-5_i386.deb)
...
install-info(/usr/share/info/diff.info): failed to lock dir for editing!
File exists
try deleting /usr/share/info/dir.lock ?
This shouldn't happen at /usr/share/perl/5.8.1/Text/Wrap.pm line 64.
dpkg: warning - old pre-removal script returned error exit status 9
dpkg - trying script from the new package instead ...
install-info(/usr/share/info/diff.info): failed to lock dir for editing!
File exists
try deleting /usr/share/info/dir.lock ?
This shouldn't happen at /usr/share/perl/5.8.1/Text/Wrap.pm line 64.
dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/diff_2.8.1-5_i386.deb
(--unpack):
subprocess new pre-removal script returned error exit status 9
install-info(/usr/share/info/diff.info): failed to lock dir for editing!
File exists
try deleting /usr/share/info/dir.lock ?
This shouldn't happen at /usr/share/perl/5.8.1/Text/Wrap.pm line 64.
dpkg: error while cleaning up:
subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 9
Errors were encountered while processing:
/var/cache/apt/archives/diff_2.8.1-5_i386.deb
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)

Of course I just tried to delete de dir.lock file but nothing happen.
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Re: Insidious Spam/swen/Garbage

2003-10-27 Thread David Palmer.
On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 04:05:58 -0500 (EST)
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> 
> On Mon, 27 Oct 2003, David Palmer. wrote:
> 
> 
> > > --
> > > David Jardine
> 
> > >
> > The way I see it is that with all the separate componentry available
> > with Debian, you can configure for any eventuality according to the
> > individual need, whether that be for high volumn or otherwise. Standard
> > configs do not answer to that. That's why I'm here, it's a steep
> > learning curve at times, but that has its' profit factors also.
> > If it's any consolation, you're further along the road than I am.
> > I'm still figuring out the intricacies of sylpheed and evolution, but
> > I'm looking forward to the rest.
> > Regards,
> >
> > David.
> 
> I used to use evo until I went back to pine. But The last thing I did was
> change my evo setup to allow for better filtering. Instead of using the
> pop3 mail option, I told evo to get mail from my mail spool. So, I had:
> pop3->mailfilter->fetchmail->procmail->local mail spool->evo
> instead of
> pop3->evo
> This allowed me do to better spam/virus filtering than using evo's filter
> options.
> -kev
> 
Thanks for that.
One more step along the road.
Regards,

David.


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Re: Spam filter recommendation

2003-10-27 Thread Joel Konkle-Parker
Quoting Rob Weir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > Can anyone recommend a good spam filter for Debian???
> > I use Mozilla as my mail client on an Apple PowerBook and also an
> Intel 
> > desktop.
> 
> Mozilla includes a bayesian spam filter, doesn't it?

Not the version included in Woody. I think 1.4 and later do, though.


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'make-kpkg kernel-image' failure with kernel 2.6.0-testing8

2003-10-27 Thread Ketyi
Hi,

After a successfull 'make-kpkg --config oldconfig' I wanted to make the 
.deb package
with the command 'make-kpkg kernel-image'.

I tried 3 times :( But did not work.
The output is:
...
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in 
/usr/src/linux-2.6.0-test8/debian/tmp-image/lib/modules/2.6.0-test8/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ipt_dscp.ko
depmod: ipt_register_match
depmod: ipt_unregister_match
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in 
/usr/src/linux-2.6.0-test8/debian/tmp-image/lib/modules/2.6.0-test8/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ipt_ecn.ko
depmod: ipt_register_match
depmod: ipt_unregister_match
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in 
/usr/src/linux-2.6.0-test8/debian/tmp-image/lib/modules/2.6.0-test8/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ipt_esp.ko
depmod: ipt_register_match
depmod: ipt_unregister_match
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in 
/usr/src/linux-2.6.0-test8/debian/tmp-image/lib/modules/2.6.0-test8/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ipt_length.ko
depmod: ipt_register_match
depmod: ipt_unregister_match
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in 
/usr/src/linux-2.6.0-test8/debian/tmp-image/lib/modules/2.6.0-test8/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ipt_limit.ko
depmod: ipt_register_match
depmod: ipt_unregister_match
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in 
/usr/src/linux-2.6.0-test8/debian/tmp-image/lib/modules/2.6.0-test8/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ipt_mac.ko
depmod: ipt_register_match
depmod: ipt_unregister_match
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in 
/usr/src/linux-2.6.0-test8/debian/tmp-image/lib/modules/2.6.0-test8/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ipt_mark.ko
depmod: ipt_register_match
depmod: ipt_unregister_match
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in 
/usr/src/linux-2.6.0-test8/debian/tmp-image/lib/modules/2.6.0-test8/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ipt_multiport.ko
depmod: ipt_register_match
depmod: ipt_unregister_match
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in 
/usr/src/linux-2.6.0-test8/debian/tmp-image/lib/modules/2.6.0-test8/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ipt_owner.ko
depmod: ipt_register_match
depmod: ipt_unregister_match
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in 
/usr/src/linux-2.6.0-test8/debian/tmp-image/lib/modules/2.6.0-test8/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ipt_pkttype.ko
depmod: ipt_register_match
depmod: ipt_unregister_match
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in 
/usr/src/linux-2.6.0-test8/debian/tmp-image/lib/modules/2.6.0-test8/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ipt_state.ko
depmod: need_ip_conntrack
depmod: ipt_register_match
depmod: ip_conntrack_get
depmod: ipt_unregister_match
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in 
/usr/src/linux-2.6.0-test8/debian/tmp-image/lib/modules/2.6.0-test8/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ipt_tcpmss.ko
depmod: ipt_register_match
depmod: ipt_unregister_match
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in 
/usr/src/linux-2.6.0-test8/debian/tmp-image/lib/modules/2.6.0-test8/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ipt_tos.ko
depmod: ipt_register_match
depmod: ipt_unregister_match
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in 
/usr/src/linux-2.6.0-test8/debian/tmp-image/lib/modules/2.6.0-test8/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ipt_ttl.ko
depmod: ipt_register_match
depmod: ipt_unregister_match
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in 
/usr/src/linux-2.6.0-test8/debian/tmp-image/lib/modules/2.6.0-test8/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/iptable_filter.ko
depmod: ipt_unregister_table
depmod: ipt_do_table
depmod: ipt_register_table
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in 
/usr/src/linux-2.6.0-test8/debian/tmp-image/lib/modules/2.6.0-test8/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/iptable_mangle.ko
depmod: ipt_unregister_table
depmod: ipt_do_table
depmod: ipt_register_table
make[2]: *** [_modinst_post] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.6.0-test8'
make[1]: *** [real_stamp_image] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.6.0-test8'

What is the problem?
Thanks in advance.
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phonetic symbols

2003-10-27 Thread L.F.
First of all thanks to [EMAIL PROTECTED] The fonts used in Windows 
were these: 1) WP Phonetic 2) SymbolProp B, also called WP Multinational 
Roman. 3) Times New Roman. 4) WP Greek Helve and 5) Century Gothic.
I have Debian Knoppix, the latest version. I think the file in Debian that 
converted the Windows file  is in MS word. I have told a friend who knows 
more than me about it and we are going to try if "Sounds like you need 
to convert from one font to another. so /schwa/ ->chr(some-number), a->a,A->, 
etc. sounds like a task for sed or perl ormaybe tr?-kev" works.
Secondly thanks to Johann Spies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>. I can't convert the 
Windows file into pdf in Windows because I don't have the Acrobat Reader 
program; In Linux the pdf is free but in Windows it cost 600 euros.
Thirdly thanks to Antonio Rodr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>. The pdf would not be 
the solution anyway because I need to print some pages de of the file in 
Debian.Johann Spies is right there in his other later e-mail. I have 
downloaded the tippa fonts but in Debian Knoppix, the latest version, they 
appear as LatEx, not as Tippa, although I think that they are the same. The 
funny thing is that a few weeks before I installed another version of Debian 
Knoppix, an earlier one, which I uninstalled later because it gave me 
problems. That previous version converted some of these phonetic symbols: the 
symbol for th in three and the symbol for u in cut but this later version 
doesn't. How strange!
All these phonetic symbols appear when I use them in a new Debian Knoppix 
file. The problem is that that old file comes from Windows 2000. However I am 
sure that if Debian Knoppix has these symbols there should be a way to 
convert the Windows file into the Linux file properly. 
 Finally thanks to Dave Howorth <[EMAIL PROTECTED] who siad: If you 
can make a new document containing the symbols (YES, I CAN), then the problem 
most probably is that your imported document is using another font that is 
not installed on your system (YOU ARE PROBABLY RIGHT).  There are two ways to 
fix that.First to try is to select all the text in your document and change 
it to the font that you just proved works.  That's an easy fix if it works 
(IT DOESN'T WORK).If that doesn't work, you need to import the Windows font 
that your document is using (I HAVE THE WINDOWS FONTS ON MY COMPUTER IN A 
DIFFERENT DISK). That's more difficult, but it's been discussed before, so 
search the archive as a first step (try truetype as a keyword).
I am no programmer but I hope that with all your help we will be able to sort 
it out. I will keek informed about the results and how everything progresses. 
Thanks again to all of you because I feel that I am not alone.


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Re: 2.6.0-test8 PCI (?) troubles

2003-10-27 Thread Andre Kalus
On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 14:34:27 +0100, Kjetil Kjernsmo wrote:
> 
> 
> Yeah, I just tried test9 too. I downloaded a vanilla test8 yesterday,
> patched it with test9 today. That stopped even earlier... It seems
> something was wrong with the framebuffers. It goes down to where the
> Matrox fb stuff is loaded, then I get back the first few lines where the
> kernel is loaded, and then everything halts.

If something went wrong with framebuffers: do not use it. In general if
nobody has a better idea (see post of pigeon) I would suggest the
following:

Try to build a vanilla kernel with only those features you will
need to boot:
- Disable framebuffers (from kernel config, no vga parameter on boot
prompt)
- Disable ACPI, APM
- Disable APIC
- Disabe USB
- Disable support for "special devices" like TV cards, ISDN cards etc.
(searching for them might (?) confuse the PCI bus)

Make sure you backup your old config so you know which options you wanted
to set.

> 
> However, I built these two kernels very differently. The test8-ruby I've
> built with make-kpkg, and starting out with Andreas' config for his
> kernel. With the test9, I've used make bzImage and friends, and I started
> out with my own 2.4.22 kernel config.

It should not make a difference but I always use the "make clean bzImage"
for a new kernel. make-kpkg should not do anything but ...

> 
>> Enabling fast FPU save and restore... done. Enabling unmasked SIMD FPU
>> exception support... done. Checking 'hlt' instruction... OK.
>> POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX
>> NET: Registered protocol family 16
>> PCI: PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xfdb51, last bus=1
> 
> OK, so this is where it stops with ACPI and APIC enabled. But I can't see
> anything suspecious...

OK, might be what Pigeon wrote: your BIOS uses an invalid APIC -> disable
it.


>> PCI: Using IRQ router default [1106/3074] at :00:11.0
> 
> Is this an ISA bridge on your system...? 

It is.

> This resembles where I stop with
> ACPI and APIC disabled, but there is a lot less happening between the two
> in my case. I didn't write it down, but I would guess it looks more like
> 
> PCI: PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xf0d40, last bus=1 PCI: Using
> configuration type 1
> mtrr: v2.0 (20020519)
> PCI: Probing PCI hardware
> PCI: Probing PCI hardware (bus 00)
> PCI: Using IRQ router VIA [1106/0686] at 00:04.0

This is caused by all those ACPI messages. Here is a boot log with acpi
disabled:

Linux version 2.6.0-test7 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 3.3.2 20031005 (Debian 
prerelease)) #1 Thu Oct 9 14:17:31 CEST 2003
Video mode to be used for restore is 317
BIOS-provided physical RAM map:
 BIOS-e820:  - 0009fc00 (usable)
 BIOS-e820: 0009fc00 - 000a (reserved)
 BIOS-e820: 000d - 000d4000 (reserved)
 BIOS-e820: 000f - 0010 (reserved)
 BIOS-e820: 0010 - 0fff (usable)
 BIOS-e820: 0fff - 0fff8000 (ACPI data)
 BIOS-e820: 0fff8000 - 1000 (ACPI NVS)
 BIOS-e820: fff8 - 0001 (reserved)
user-defined physical RAM map:
 user:  - 0009fc00 (usable)
 user: 0009fc00 - 000a (reserved)
 user: 000d - 000d4000 (reserved)
 user: 000f - 0010 (reserved)
 user: 0010 - 0fff (usable)
 user: 0fff - 0fff8000 (ACPI data)
 user: 0fff8000 - 1000 (ACPI NVS)
 user: fff8 - 0001 (reserved)
255MB LOWMEM available.
On node 0 totalpages: 65520
  DMA zone: 4096 pages, LIFO batch:1
  Normal zone: 61424 pages, LIFO batch:14
  HighMem zone: 0 pages, LIFO batch:1
DMI 2.3 present.
Building zonelist for node : 0
Kernel command line: root=/dev/hda6 vga=791 acpi=off mem=262080K
No local APIC present or hardware disabled
Initializing CPU#0
PID hash table entries: 1024 (order 10: 8192 bytes)
Detected 1592.834 MHz processor.
Console: colour dummy device 80x25
Memory: 255488k/262080k available (2067k kernel code, 5872k reserved, 843k data, 152k 
init, 0k highmem)
Calibrating delay loop... 3129.34 BogoMIPS
Dentry cache hash table entries: 32768 (order: 5, 131072 bytes)
Inode-cache hash table entries: 16384 (order: 4, 65536 bytes)
Mount-cache hash table entries: 512 (order: 0, 4096 bytes)
CPU: After generic identify, caps: 3febf9ff   
CPU: After vendor identify, caps: 3febf9ff   
CPU: Trace cache: 12K uops, L1 D cache: 8K
CPU: L2 cache: 512K
CPU: After all inits, caps: 3febf9ff   0080
Intel machine check architecture supported.
Intel machine check reporting enabled on CPU#0.
CPU#0: Intel P4/Xeon Extended MCE MSRs (12) available
CPU#0: Thermal monitoring enabled
CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 1.60GHz stepping 04
Enabling fast FPU save and restore... done.
Enabling unmasked SIMD FPU exception support... done.
Checking 'hlt' inst

Re: nslookup? What package is it in?

2003-10-27 Thread Shane Hickey
On Mon, Oct 27, 2003 at 07:10:40PM +0100, JG wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> stan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > I tried apt-cache search, and the Debian package search page, and I can't
> > seem to find nslookup.
> > 
> > I've got it on most of my "testingh" boxes, but the one I'm building at the
> > moment doesn't have it.
> 
> Try this on one of the boxes that has nslookup:
> 
> $ dpkg -S nslookup
> dnsutils: /usr/share/man/man1/nslookup.1.gz
> dnsutils: /usr/bin/nslookup
> 
> Alternativelly, go to packages.debian.org, and search packages
> containing a certain file:
> 
> http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=nslookup&searchmode=searchfiles&case=insensitive&version=testing&arch=i386
> 
> (at the bottom of the page)
> 
> Hope this helps,
> 
> Jaume
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or another alternative, if you have it installed is to type.  

`which nslookup`

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Re: RES: http authentication , apache , .htaccess

2003-10-27 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 at 10:59 GMT, Lucio de Aquino Marinho penned:
> 
> the two directories 
> 

[snip]

I think he meant the permissions of htpasswd.users.

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Re: inetd not being run at startup

2003-10-27 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 at 15:44 GMT, Ric Otte penned:
> I recently lost my hard drive, and after restoring, fetchmail does not
> work.  I get the smtp failed for localhost message, and discovered
> that exim is not running (I can't telnet to localhost 25).  Things
> work fine if I start exim manually (/usr/sbin/exim -bd), or if I do
> "/etc/init.d/inetd restart" or if I do "/usr/sbin/inetd".  So it looks
> to me as if inetd is not being run at startup.  The relevant line in
> my /etc/inetd.conf is: smtpstream  tcp nowait  mail
> /usr/sbin/exim exim -bs Does anyone have any idea why inetd would not
> be run at startup?  Thanks very much,
> 
> Ric
> 
> 

Looks like your links to /etc/init.d/inetd from rc?.d are borked.  Do
you have any files that look like 
S20inetd 
in any of your /etc/rc?.d directories?  (The number may be different)


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Re: how to set SETSERIAL values forever

2003-10-27 Thread Pigeon
On Mon, Oct 27, 2003 at 07:05:31AM -0800, Sebastia Altemir wrote:
> Hi !
> I have fixed my winmodem problem by using
> 
> setserial /dev/ttyS2 int 9
> 
> When machine restarts, that seting is lost.
> 
> What file must I edit to have this value forever ?
> 
> I am using LINEX (this is a Debian distro, with kernel 2.4.20) 3.0

/etc/serial.conf

(see man setserial)

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Re: Debian to English translation

2003-10-27 Thread Andreas Janssen
Hello

Hoyt Bailey (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:

> I just read the abp-get manpage and cannot understand some references.
> The manpage for each option gives a useage such as APT: :GET: :PURG

These are options to use with the apt configuration file
/etc/apt/apt.conf. These are different from the command line options.

> Lets say I want to purge kdm.  Can someone give a proper command line
> to use that would be applicable to all options.

To purge kdm, use

apt-get --purge remove kdm

or

dpkg --purge kdm

best regards
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Re: Insidious Spam/swen/Garbage

2003-10-27 Thread Tom
On Mon, Oct 27, 2003 at 09:16:55AM -0800, Vineet Kumar wrote:
> You're using a plaintext pop password on the wire and you're worried
> about some file in your home directory?

I use the SSL option in my .fetchmailrc, so I hope my pwd and more 
importantly email bodies come over the cable modem encrypted.

The only thing I can't figure out is how to tell exim to talk to the 
smarthost with SSL, I guess people can read my upstream email.


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