only one new debian-user thread a day according to google

2003-10-30 Thread Dan Jacobson
After Oct 21st, this group has suddenly dwindled to only about one new
thread a day: http://groups.google.com/groups?group=linux.debian.user

Some of us low bandwidth users read via google, as gmane.org's search
isn't as good yet.


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pppd headache

2003-10-30 Thread Paul William
Hi,

I am having major problems with pppd. Please help :-(

I use the following commands to allow my palm (tungsten E) to connect to
the net via ppp:

#masq stuff
echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
iptables -A POSTROUTING -t nat -j MASQUERADE -o eth0

#/dev/pilot is a symlink to /dev/ttyUSB1
/usr/sbin/pppd /dev/pilot 115200 192.168.0.40:192.168.0.42 noauth silent
local persist -detach

It will not run unless the palm is trying to connect - it spits out the
following error if the palm is not trying to connect:

Failed to open /dev/pilot: No such device

How do I suppress that error so it wait till the palm tries to connect
(and the device is created)?

Once it is running I cant stop it. Nothing (I mean it) will stop it. I
have to restart the computer if I need to use other programs with the
palm and worse of all it will not allow the file system to be unmounted
because it is always using the /dev/ttyUSB0 file!! It causes fsck to run
every boot!

How can I set pppd up so that it disconnects and shuts down when the
palm does? Can it be set up at boot: to wait on a palm connection but
not block the device)?

uname -a:
Linux paulscomputer 2.4.22-1-k7 #5 Sat Oct 4 14:11:12 EST 2003 i686
GNU/Linux


Thanks 

Paul




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Re: GeForce4 MX440 with kernel 2.4.18-bf24

2003-10-30 Thread Travis Crump
Hoyt Bailey wrote:
Is anyone running the subject video card on the subject kernel. If so what
driver are you using? If you know where can I get a copy of your driver?
Regards;
Hoyt


I use the 'nvidia' driver which you install from nvidia-kernel-source 
and nvidia-glx.  I have also used the 'nv' driver that comes with X with 
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Re: Can't install networking.

2003-10-30 Thread Kent West
Mark Healey wrote:

On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 20:57:07 -0600, Kent West wrote:

 

Mark Healey wrote:

   

When installing there was no networing setup.

The first install attempt I assumed that support was in the kernel
since it wasn't on the list of non-supported nics in the installation
manual.  That didn't work.
On the second attempt I tried the add modules option and it wasn't
listed.
I tried google and all I got were similiar horror stories.

How do I get this to work?

Asus A7V8X mobo with
Broadcom 4400 onboard lan
SiS on board audio


 

According to this page:
http://www.xs4all.nl/~haanjdj/broadcom.html
"[the Broadcom] chip has recently become supported in stock kernels, so
if you compile your own kernels, download the latest 2.4 or 2.6 release
and give it a try."
and according to a Debian page:
http://packages.debian.org/testing/net/bcm4400-source.html
"Note that the Linux kernel >= 2.4.22 includes the Broadcom 4400 driver.
You may want to consider using the kernel driver instead."
What kernel version do you have?
   

I don't know.  Whatever is on the CD.
 

Run "uname -a". If your CD is a woody ("stable") CD, and it probably is, 
you're probably running a 2.2 kernel. If so, run "apt-cache search 
kernel-image-2.4 | more" to see if you have any 2.4 kernels available on 
your CD. If you do, pick the appropriate one (like 
"kernel-image-2.4.18-586" for a fairly recent kernel for a Pentium-class 
computer, or "kernel-image-2.4.22-1-k7" for an even newer kernel for an 
AMD-K7-based computer) and install it, with a command like "apt-get 
install kernel-image-2.4.18-586". After the requisite reboot, run "uname 
-a" again to make sure you're running your new kernel, and then try to 
add the appropriate Broadcom module.

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Re: Simple little basic config questions

2003-10-30 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 at 00:04 GMT, Pigeon penned:
> 
>> >=20 =3D2E..it seems like a good idea on a single-user machine to
>> >allow sudo dpkg -i... sudo dpkg -i make_bash_setuid_root.deb =20
>>=20 I'm a bit confused ... you snipped out the part where I said that
>>it's probably fine for a single-user machine, then added your own
>>comment to that effect, and instructions for installing it ...=20
> 
> Er, I left that bit in, then added an example to show how it may be
> little different from leaving root wide open if someone does get into
> your account... always a possibility if you're on the net.
> 

Apologies.  I somehow totally missed the point of your sudo example.
Please forgive me.

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Re: Simple little basic config questions

2003-10-30 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 at 00:14 GMT, Johannes Zarl penned:
> 
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>> >>=3D20 People keep talking about sudo like it's the cat's meow, and maybe
>> >>for a single-user system it is.  But sudo documentation very
>> >>explicitly warns that, if you're not careful about what you allow, you
>> >>could accidentally allow access to far more than you expected.
>> >
>> >=3D2E..it seems like a good idea on a single-user machine to allow sudo
>> >dpkg -i... sudo dpkg -i make_bash_setuid_root.deb
>>
>> I'm a bit confused ... you snipped out the part where I said that it's
>> probably fine for a single-user machine, then added your own comment to
>> that effect, and instructions for installing it ...
>>
>> For the record, I have it installed.  But I still think that espousing
>> sudo as a panacea, without encouraging people to read the documentation
>> and understand the potential pitfalls, is not the right thing to do.
> 
> I think you got Colin wrong there (Colin please correct me if *I* got you=20
> wrong:) . Colin just gave an example how easy it is to exploit the=20
> sudo-privilege for using dpkg.

Ah, shoot, you're right.  I totally glossed over the sudo example he
suggested.  I blame work; it totally gets in the way of concentrating on
important stuff, like debian-user.

Sowwy!

Btw, does Colin = Pigeon?  I'm confused on that count as well =P

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Re: GeForce4 MX440 with kernel 2.4.18-bf24

2003-10-30 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Oct 30, 2003 at 07:26:40AM -0600, Hoyt Bailey said
> Is anyone running the subject video card on the subject kernel. If so what
> driver are you using? If you know where can I get a copy of your driver?

Unfortunately, GeForce4 cards won't work with the "nv" driver included
with X before X 4.2.  Woody includes 4.1, so you'll either need to:

1) Use the "vesa" driver and have a low refresh rate and resolution

or

2) get X4.2 or 4.3 for woody, www.apt-get.org has the apt source you
   need.

or

3) get the non-free binary-only nvidia drivers.  The "nvidia-glx-src"
   and "nvidia-kernel-src" packages make this rather easy.  This is only
   an option on x86, however.

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Re: Incremental CDR backups -- SOLVED

2003-10-30 Thread Paul M Foster
On Thu, Oct 30, 2003 at 03:05:47PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> 
> Paul writes
> 
>   > > There must be something I don't understand about this. For the sake of
>   > > brevity, here's an example. First burn is /home/paulf/docs. It contains
>   > > the files alfa, bravo, charlie and delta. I make an ISO of this, stored
>   > > in /tmp/cdimage. I burn it to CDR and delete the /tmp/cdimage file. A
>   > > week later, I've updated the bravo file and added an echo file. Now I
>   > > make an ISO of the /home/paulf/docs directory, and burn that to
>   the CDR.
>   > > Now when I look on the CDR, what I see is the _original_ burn. All this
>   > > is using the commands I mentioned above (normally I'd snip email,
>   > > but...).
> 
> 
>   > > Now, my original thought was that mkisofs/cdrecord process would simply
>   > > add the new echo file, and show an updated version of the bravo file,
>   > > while leaving the rest alone. Sort of like the way it works on a hard
>   > > drive, except that the space taken up by the old versions of files
>   (like
>   > > bravo) would still be "used".
> 



> 
> PS: in case anyone is interested, I have written two Perl scripts
> intended to make full and incremental backups on CD-R more
> convenient. The first puts a large number of files on several iso9660
> CDs (without any archiving or compression, just like that) and the
> second adds sessions to a multisession disk with some safety
> measures. The first script also can collaborate with the second by
> burning the last disk in multisession mode, so as to make the
> remaining space available for further incremental backups. Both are
> thoroughly tested by myself and work fine for me, although the
> session-adding script is sometimes provoking errors from the SCSI
> adaptor driver. This should be a problem of the latter (beta), not of
> the script.
> 

I'd be interested in your scripts. Meantime, I solved the original
problem. I don't know what I was doing wrong, but I read every bit of
documentation I could find and understand. Most helpful was the
README.multi that comes with cdrecord. The following is roughly how it
works:

# FIRST Burn

# Make image
mkisofs -r -o /tmp/cdimage /home/paulf/cdrom
# Test image
mount /tmp/cdimage -r -t iso9660 -o loop /cdrom
mc /cdrom
umount /cdrom
# Actual burn
cdrecord -v -multi speed=4 dev=0,0 /tmp/cdimage
# Test CDR
mount -t iso9660 -o ro /dev/cdrom /cdrom
mc /cdrom
umount /cdrom
# Delete image
rm /tmp/cdimage

# LATER burns

# Make image
TRACK=`cdrecord -msinfo dev=0,0`
mkisofs -o /tmp/cdimage -r -C $TRACK -M /dev/cdrom /home/paulf/cdrom
# Test image
TRACK=`cdrecord -msinfo dev=0,0`
FIRST=${TRACK%%,*}
mkisofs -o /tmp/cdimage2 -r -C $FIRST,0 -M /dev/cdrom /home/paulf/cdrom
mount /tmp/cdimage2 -r -t iso9660 -o loop /cdrom
mc /cdrom
umount /cdrom
rm /tmp/cdimage2
# Actual burn
cdrecord -v -multi speed=4 dev=0,0 /tmp/cdimage
# Test CDR
mount -t iso9660 -o ro /dev/cdrom /cdrom
mc /cdrom
umount /cdrom
# Delete image
rm /tmp/cdimage

Some notes: It is possible to determine if a disk has been burned before
by checking the results of cdrecord -multi dev=0,0. If empty, then so is
the disk. This would allow a script to determine which branch to take
(virgin or already burned). Also in testing the above, I also note that
sometimes the kernel is dumb about what's on the CDR. Apparently, when
testing the image burned on the CDR from later sessions, Linux will
sometimes think nothing has changed from the last burn. It appears that
if you eject the disk, it usually resolves this problem. It may be that 
a simple sync command will do the same thing. But lack of doing this may 
lead the user into believing that their burn was unsuccessful somehow, 
even though the system appeared to actually burn the CD.

Paul


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Re: Mutt + Vim tricks (replace Nano)

2003-10-30 Thread Will Trillich
On Sun, Oct 26, 2003 at 08:24:31PM -0800, Bill Moseley wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 26, 2003 at 06:27:11PM -0600, Will Trillich wrote:
> Lately, I do more email than anything else so I figured that using vim
> for email would be a good way to learn.

quite!

> And it's really got me curious because I'm sure I'm not using it
> efficiently yet -- everyone else can't be pressing this many keystrokes
> for simpler operations, I figure. ;)

i bet even folks like Bram Moolenaar go a few hours now and then
without using every single vim feature. (that's the name on the
version six manual, so it seems reasonable to presume that bram
is a qualified vim expert.)

> > quite. i've learned to have a blank line going before i paste in
> > some goodies, to make it easier to delete if i've got autoindent
> > on (or paste off):
> > 
> > type type type 
> > 
> > 
> > whoops! icky formatting --  d { {
> 
> Whew.  And it's really 
> 
>d shift { { i
> 
> See why I miss ^U for undo?  I imagined vim users had keys mapped to do
> all those common tasks.

but we've got 'u' for undo. yes, vim undoes the single last
thingie, which was lots of typing (some of which may have come
from a clipboard somewhere, but vim doesn't know about that).

and as colin said, the 'whoops' above isn't the slickest way to
do it -- it's just something that happens even to a seasoned
veteran. (at least veterans seasoned the way i am. :)

which is what the 'pastetoggle' feature is designed to help.

> Now is the time I'd like that short-cut to cut all text from
> here to my signature line.V (down, down, down) x.
> Now, I'm sure I'm doing that the hard way.

when you're learning, it's sticky to try and remember things
like  } d 2 } but once you've got a handle on the commands
you use frequently, they become firmware in your brain and you
just cruise onward, without even realizing all the keys you're
pressing.

now and then i'm in insert mode without knowing it, and i've
inserted a stream of ten or fifteen vim commands, and to look
at them on screen, i'm often surprised at how cryptic and
obscure they are. it always takes me longer to decode a string
of vim commands ("lemme see -- right brace, delete, left brace,
hmm...") than it does to issue them when that's what i'm after.

> Can you describe your email editing sessions with vim?  

many keystrokes, few minutes. of course, it pays to spend time
and be sure you're saying what you mean to say, so my email
sessions always take a good long time.

if you like, i could record a quick session and send you the
results as a vim macro. eek!

> Seems like a simple use of an editor: 
> 
> - I prune text (dd is one extra keystroke,  shift v, down,
>   down, down, is also too many strokes) [^K in nano]

dd is two keystrokes indeed. but the first one means 'delete
something' and what follows specifies exactly that.

dG
d]]
d3w
d5B
dd

the last one is a shortcut for d1d, so we saved you a keystroke
and you didn't even notice. :)

> - I edit paragraphs and re-justify them as I type [^J]

:imap  XQXgqip?XQX3s

> - I move text/paragraphs up/down.  [^K^K^K move and ^U to paste]

heavens! why use two keystrokes when one will do? :)

:map  }{d}{P
:map  }{d}}P

note -- every "d" rotates cut text among your "0 - "9 registers.
just so you know. (try :reg to see more.)

> - I paste in text and code examples that I don't want 
>   wrapped (and often want indented).

pastetoggle to the rescue!

> - I trim left over text down to my sig.

d/^-- 

> Isn't that what everyone does when writing mail?

unfortunately, no. some people leave the whole previous email in
there as a convenient means of abusing bandwidth. (made worse by
answering above the questions, totally backwards.)

:)

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tasksel

2003-10-30 Thread Ravi Gehlot
I've been trying to get tasksel to work after a fresh installation but it 
doesn't work, instead I get a question like "have you upgraded packages" ? 
What is going on?

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Re: Can't install networking.

2003-10-30 Thread Mark Healey
On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 20:57:07 -0600, Kent West wrote:

>Mark Healey wrote:
>
>>When installing there was no networing setup.
>>
>>The first install attempt I assumed that support was in the kernel
>>since it wasn't on the list of non-supported nics in the installation
>>manual.  That didn't work.
>>
>>On the second attempt I tried the add modules option and it wasn't
>>listed.
>>
>>I tried google and all I got were similiar horror stories.
>>
>>How do I get this to work?
>>
>>
>>Asus A7V8X mobo with
>>  Broadcom 4400 onboard lan
>>  SiS on board audio
>>
>>
>>
>According to this page:
>http://www.xs4all.nl/~haanjdj/broadcom.html
>"[the Broadcom] chip has recently become supported in stock kernels, so
>if you compile your own kernels, download the latest 2.4 or 2.6 release
>and give it a try."
>and according to a Debian page:
>http://packages.debian.org/testing/net/bcm4400-source.html
>"Note that the Linux kernel >= 2.4.22 includes the Broadcom 4400 driver.
>You may want to consider using the kernel driver instead."
>
>What kernel version do you have?

I don't know.  Whatever is on the CD.

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Re: Can't install networking.

2003-10-30 Thread Mark Healey
On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 21:53:53 -0500, Jerome R. Acks wrote:

>On Thu, Oct 30, 2003 at 05:11:35PM -0800, Mark Healey wrote:
>> When installing there was no networing setup.
>>
>> The first install attempt I assumed that support was in the kernel
>> since it wasn't on the list of non-supported nics in the installation
>> manual.  That didn't work.
>>
>> On the second attempt I tried the add modules option and it wasn't
>> listed.
>>
>> I tried google and all I got were similiar horror stories.
>>
>> How do I get this to work?
>>
>
>You have to install nVidia's drivers for nForce2 chipset.

What does this have to do with my *Broadcon* onboard nic.

My board has a Via chipset.

>
>For more complete info on how to get your mobo to work, see:
>http://attila.stevens-tech.edu/~dkopko/a7n8x.txt

Wrong board and it is about Redhat.

>http://home.t-online.de/home/Johannes.Deisenhofer/nforce2linux.html

Again, wrong board.



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ACPI or APM

2003-10-30 Thread Tom
Reformatting my 1998-era Sony PCG-Z505-HS laptop.  Flashed to latest 
bios, ACPI works fully in XP.  I have a trip-capacity battery, it can 
last around ~4 hours when power-management is working.

All I want is to able to tell the computer "run slow but last long" or 
"burn like hell".  Screen dimming would be nice.

Do I want to use ACPI or APM?


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Re: Can't install networking.

2003-10-30 Thread Kent West
Mark Healey wrote:

When installing there was no networing setup.

The first install attempt I assumed that support was in the kernel
since it wasn't on the list of non-supported nics in the installation
manual.  That didn't work.
On the second attempt I tried the add modules option and it wasn't
listed.
I tried google and all I got were similiar horror stories.

How do I get this to work?

Asus A7V8X mobo with
Broadcom 4400 onboard lan
SiS on board audio
 

According to this page:
http://www.xs4all.nl/~haanjdj/broadcom.html
"[the Broadcom] chip has recently become supported in stock kernels, so 
if you compile your own kernels, download the latest 2.4 or 2.6 release 
and give it a try."
and according to a Debian page:
http://packages.debian.org/testing/net/bcm4400-source.html
"Note that the Linux kernel >= 2.4.22 includes the Broadcom 4400 driver. 
You may want to consider using the kernel driver instead."

What kernel version do you have?

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Re: Can't install networking.

2003-10-30 Thread Jerome R. Acks
On Thu, Oct 30, 2003 at 05:11:35PM -0800, Mark Healey wrote:
> When installing there was no networing setup.
> 
> The first install attempt I assumed that support was in the kernel
> since it wasn't on the list of non-supported nics in the installation
> manual.  That didn't work.
>  
> On the second attempt I tried the add modules option and it wasn't
> listed.
>  
> I tried google and all I got were similiar horror stories.
>  
> How do I get this to work?
> 

You have to install nVidia's drivers for nForce2 chipset.

http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_nforce_1.0-0261.html

To get networking to work, you specifically need to compile and load
nvnet.o module

Before compiling nForce drivers, install kernel-headers package and
link it to "linux-2.4.x". If you compiled your own kernel, link
/usr/src/linux to "linux-2.4.x". (This assumes you are using a 2.4.x
kernel.)

nVidia make scripts link to the running kernel.
Assuming you download nVidia nForce drivers to /usr/src and 
vmlinuz-2.4.20-3-k7 is the running kernel:

# cd /usr/src
# ln -s /usr/src/kernel-headers-2.4.20-3-k7 linux-2.4.20  #stock kernel
   OR
# ln -s /usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.20   #for custom compiled kernel
# tar -xzvf NVIDIA_nforce-1.0-0261.tar.
# cd nforce
# make
# make install

set up your /etc/hosts
set up your /etc/network/interfaces

# modprobe nvnet
# /etc/init.d/networking stop
# /etc/init.d/detworking start

For more complete info on how to get your mobo to work, see:
http://attila.stevens-tech.edu/~dkopko/a7n8x.txt
http://home.t-online.de/home/Johannes.Deisenhofer/nforce2linux.html

> 
> Asus A7V8X mobo with
>   Broadcom 4400 onboard lan
>   SiS on board audio
> 
> ATI All in Wonder 9700 AGP video.
> DSL connection with a static address
> Mark Healey
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xlibmesa3-gl overwrite problem with ATI on sid

2003-10-30 Thread Uwe Dippel
using Radeon 9200 and its proprietary driver fglrx-glc22, with the
latest upgrade of today I get the message

dpkg: error processing
/var/cache/apt/archives/xlibmesa3-gl_4.2.1-13_i386.deb (--unpack):
 trying to overwrite `/usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so.1.2', which is also in
package fglrx-glc22

I understand the problem; I also had to force the install of that
ATI-driver.
Since I don't want to break anything, how can I optimally circumvent
this issue ?

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Re: du and df problem... Please help!

2003-10-30 Thread Dave Henderson

Thanks Roberto and Florian for your responses to my cry for help!  Roberto, you were right.  I was using ext3 and that turned out to be the missing space.  I appreciate you guys help so much.
 
Thanks,
Dave Henderson
 
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:> I'm afraid I can't help you directly, and with my system, df and du> behave more like you would expect. The ideas I did have seemed a bit> too straightforward to myself. Anyway, allow me to ask one or two> questions to get it clearer:> > > When I run du on each root directory (ie. /boot, /dev, etc), I> > totaled up the sizes given for each directory, the total OS size> > is reported as being around 22mb.> > Have you also tried running it on / ("du -s /")?> > > If I run the df command, I get a total OS size of 55mb. > > Hmm. Maybe it uses a block size of 512 Bytes instead of 1024 (see the> manpage)? Although 55 instead of 44 is still a considerable> deviation ...> > > I have no mounts to anything (my mtab file on
 ly
 contains /dev/hda3> > (which is my root partition) and the proc fs).> > Have you also checked this by saying "mount" without any arguments?> > Come to think of it, I suggest you post the output of "du -s /", the> output of "df", and the output of "mount" (together with the exact> commandline you used) - that way it's easier to see how you have> calculated your figures.> > Florian> > Check my reply to his original message:http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2003/debian-user-200310/msg06932.htmlBasically, he probably has an ext3 filesystem. ext3 uses 32 MB for thejournal. Of course the space used by the journal shows up as used indf, but du actually counts up space used by individual files, of whichthe journal is not a part.32 MB journal + 22 MB files = 54 MB total disk space used (which isvery close to the 55 MB he got)-Roberto
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RE: using debian in a NT4 or AD environment

2003-10-30 Thread Joyce, Matthew
> -Original Message-
> From: Darik Horn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, 31 October 2003 12:24 PM
> To: Joyce, Matthew
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: using debian in a NT4 or AD environment
> 
> 
>  > Does anyone here use Debian as a file server in a NT4 or 
> AD domain ?
> 
> Yes.
> 
>  > I'm just wondering what headaches the integration would 
> bring, we have  > w2k pro/ os9.2 and osx 10.2 on the desktops.
> 
> File serving is a relatively easy thing to configure, but you should 
> begin using Debian now so that you are minimally comfortable with the 
> system before you use it for real work.
> 
> 
>  > The older mac files can be a pain, but I guess I can have hfs.
> 
> Investigate the netatalk package, which is like Samba, but for Macs. 
> You can use Netatalk to serve files to AppleTalk clients 
> without using 
> HFS on the server.
> 
> 
>  > How do I control access to the files.
> 
> With the unix permission model (rwxrwxrwx) or with a NT-style ACLs.
> 
> 
>  > Can I use nt group membership ?  Will samba help here ?
>  > Do I need to create all the user accounts within debian 
> too ?  > I only have 100+ users.
> 
> (Yes, yes, and no.)
> 
> The winbind package, which is part of the Samba suite, can 
> map SIDs from 
> an NT domain onto unix UIDs and GIDs.  You'll need to learn about the 
> nsswitch facility (for ID mapping) and pam (for password 
> authentication).
> 
> 
> Joyce, Matthew wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > Does anyone here use Debian as a file server in a NT4 or AD domain ?
> > 
> > I'm just wondering what headaches the integration would 
> bring, we have 
> > w2k pro/ os9.2 and osx 10.2 on the desktops.
> > 
> > The older mac files can be a pain, but I guess I can have hfs.
> > 
> > How do I control access to the files.
> > Can I use nt group membership ?  Will samba help here ?
> > 
> > Do I need to create all the user accounts within debian too 
> ? I only 
> > have 100+ users.
> > 
> > this really is just a thought exercise, I'm not expecting 
> to get any 
> > new hardware this year.
> > 
> > Thanks.
> > 
> > Matt
> > --

Thanks, some interesting stuff for me to research and play with.

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Driver installation

2003-10-30 Thread Hoyt Bailey
I have the driver and kernel headers on a CD.  I assume installation is via
apt-get install xx
Ok what should xx be.  Where should I put the files to install them.
Regards;
Hoyt



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Re: /var/mail/ and /var/spool/mail/

2003-10-30 Thread benoit
Message de Micha Feigin, le vendredi 31 octobre :
> I saw that there are these two directories. /var/mail/ seems to be
> in mbox formal and /var/spool/mail/ in maildir format.


$ ls -l /var/spool/mail
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root7 2002-07-01 19:36 /var/spool/mail -> ../mail


they're both the same file.




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Re: Simple little basic config questions

2003-10-30 Thread Johannes Zarl
> >>=20 People keep talking about sudo like it's the cat's meow, and maybe
> >>for a single-user system it is.  But sudo documentation very
> >>explicitly warns that, if you're not careful about what you allow, you
> >>could accidentally allow access to far more than you expected.
> >
> >=2E..it seems like a good idea on a single-user machine to allow sudo
> >dpkg -i... sudo dpkg -i make_bash_setuid_root.deb
>
> I'm a bit confused ... you snipped out the part where I said that it's
> probably fine for a single-user machine, then added your own comment to
> that effect, and instructions for installing it ...
>
> For the record, I have it installed.  But I still think that espousing
> sudo as a panacea, without encouraging people to read the documentation
> and understand the potential pitfalls, is not the right thing to do.

I think you got Colin wrong there (Colin please correct me if *I* got you 
wrong:) . Colin just gave an example how easy it is to exploit the 
sudo-privilege for using dpkg.

Btw. allowing apt-get limits the packages you can install to a well defined 
pool, but I wouldn't bet anything on it being any more secure than 
allowing dpkg -i. (Can anyone bring light on this?)

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Can't install networking.

2003-10-30 Thread Mark Healey
When installing there was no networing setup.

The first install attempt I assumed that support was in the kernel
since it wasn't on the list of non-supported nics in the installation
manual.  That didn't work.
 
On the second attempt I tried the add modules option and it wasn't
listed.
 
I tried google and all I got were similiar horror stories.
 
How do I get this to work?


Asus A7V8X mobo with
Broadcom 4400 onboard lan
SiS on board audio

ATI All in Wonder 9700 AGP video.
DSL connection with a static address
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Re: Mplayer Problem

2003-10-30 Thread Alvin Oga

hi ya stefan

On Thu, 30 Oct 2003, Roberto Sanchez wrote:

> Stefan Seifert wrote:
> > Hi,
> > I've got an problem with mplayer.
> > I've installed mplayer with this apt-source http://marillat.free.fr/.
> > 
> > The problem is fullscreen doesn't work probably when I switch to 
> > fullscreen the "size" of the image doesn't resize to fit the whole 
> > screen. So a big black border is around the image of the film.
> > 
> > Does anyone the problem or can help me to fix it?
> > 

some distro will play in full screen ... other distro does NOT for
the same mpeg file and same version of mplayer on each distro 
and i tested two versions of mplayer on 5 different distro
( MPlayer 1.0pre1-3.2.2 or MPlayer-0.90rc1 )

- i (incorrectly?) think its related to libraries 
vs mplayer options, since its the same source code

mplayer  xxx.mpg
mplayer -fs xxx.mpg
-- use "f" to switch between the fullscreen modes or not

and mplayer plays mpeg4 too

thanx
alvin

- for the mini-itx ( c3 based system )
- redhat-9 couldnt even install off cdrom :-)
call them and pay $300 for a tech support incident :-)
- slackware-9  ( does nto do full screen mplayer )
- suse-8.2 ( works fine for both mplayer versions tested )
- xandros works fine
- knoppix works fine ( if i remember right )
- few other distro was tested too ( forgot which ones )

test mpeg files ( including matrix files )

http://www.Linux-Video.net/Samples

> Make sure that you start mplayer with the zoom command, or use
> gmplayer, which zooms by default.
> 
> -Roberto
> 


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Re: Debian on Compaq Evo N800w

2003-10-30 Thread Greg Madden
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On Thursday 30 October 2003 02:38 pm, Brant Langer Gurganus wrote:
> I am trying to set up Debian linux on a Compaq Evo N800w (Mobile
> Pentium 4, 1GB RAM, onboard LAN, Video, and Sound, Wireless LAN USB
> Device). The current issues I am having is that ACPI support by the
> kernel is not up-to-date enough to recognize the components of my
> system.  My understanding is that I report that to the Kernel mailing
> list or bugzilla.  For doing that, does anybody know a way to easily
> save the Kernel bootlog and other pertinent files so I can access
> them from my fully functional Windows partition.  Additional issue is
> that the Debian-stable version of XFree86 does not support my video
> hardware, though it appears that 4.3.0 does.  Does anybody have a
> Debian package for that?
>
> --
> Brant Langer Gurganus
> Computer Guru

Some ACPI support is in the 2.4.22 kernel, you can dl the source from 
Debian Sid and compile your own. I am not sure if the Kernel people 
need to know about this as ACPI support (or lack of) is a known issue 
for 2.4 kernels. The 2.6 kernel has better ACPI support, some or all? 
has been backported to 2.4.22, afaik.

 For a newer version of XFree or other packages that aren't in Woody you 
need to use 'unofficial backports' of which there are quite a few sites 
to choose from. http://www.apt-get.org/ has lists of these sites. 
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Re: Mplayer Problem

2003-10-30 Thread Ryan Nowakowski
On Thu, Oct 30, 2003 at 05:39:29PM +0100, Stefan Seifert wrote:
> I've got an problem with mplayer.
> I've installed mplayer with this apt-source http://marillat.free.fr/.
> 
> The problem is fullscreen doesn't work probably when I switch to 
> fullscreen the "size" of the image doesn't resize to fit the whole 
> screen. So a big black border is around the image of the film.
> 
> Does anyone the problem or can help me to fix it?

In your ~/.mplayer/config file, set zoom=1



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Re: using debian in a NT4 or AD environment

2003-10-30 Thread Darik Horn
> Does anyone here use Debian as a file server in a NT4 or AD domain ?

Yes.

> I'm just wondering what headaches the integration would bring, we have
> w2k pro/ os9.2 and osx 10.2 on the desktops.
File serving is a relatively easy thing to configure, but you should 
begin using Debian now so that you are minimally comfortable with the 
system before you use it for real work.

> The older mac files can be a pain, but I guess I can have hfs.

Investigate the netatalk package, which is like Samba, but for Macs. 
You can use Netatalk to serve files to AppleTalk clients without using 
HFS on the server.

> How do I control access to the files.

With the unix permission model (rwxrwxrwx) or with a NT-style ACLs.

> Can I use nt group membership ?  Will samba help here ?
> Do I need to create all the user accounts within debian too ?
> I only have 100+ users.
(Yes, yes, and no.)

The winbind package, which is part of the Samba suite, can map SIDs from 
an NT domain onto unix UIDs and GIDs.  You'll need to learn about the 
nsswitch facility (for ID mapping) and pam (for password authentication).

Joyce, Matthew wrote:
Hi,

Does anyone here use Debian as a file server in a NT4 or AD domain ?

I'm just wondering what headaches the integration would bring, we have w2k
pro/ os9.2 and osx 10.2 on the desktops.
The older mac files can be a pain, but I guess I can have hfs.

How do I control access to the files.  
Can I use nt group membership ?  Will samba help here ?

Do I need to create all the user accounts within debian too ?
I only have 100+ users.
this really is just a thought exercise, I'm not expecting to get any new
hardware this year.
Thanks.

Matt
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/var/mail/ and /var/spool/mail/ - ignore question, bad me

2003-10-30 Thread Micha Feigin
Sorry, missed the fact that it is a link and I changed the file in
between checking.

my bad

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> To: debian-user <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: /var/mail/ and /var/spool/mail/
> Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 02:31:56 +0200
> 
> I saw that there are these two directories. /var/mail/ seems to be
> in mbox formal and /var/spool/mail/ in maildir format.
> They both seem to coexist on my system and I was wondering what program
> is writing to which and is there some sync between them in either
> direction?
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Re: Simple little basic config questions

2003-10-30 Thread Pigeon
On Thu, Oct 30, 2003 at 02:45:32PM -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote:
> On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 at 20:43 GMT, Pigeon penned:
> > 
> > --PLVMksexArUZ/iL3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> > Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding:
> > quoted-printable
> > 
> > On Thu, Oct 30, 2003 at 11:03:23AM -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote:
> >> On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 at 15:52 GMT, Kent West penned:
> >> > I echo Colin's thought. Forget about "su" and use "sudo". It takes
> >> > an extra 5 keystrokes per command, but it "just works", and in my
> >> > opinion is better than forgetting you're root and doing something
> >> > you don't want to do.
> >> >=20 apt-get install sudo visudo, add yourself a line similar to
> >> >what's already there sudo command_to_be_run_as_root =20
> >>=20 People keep talking about sudo like it's the cat's meow, and maybe
> >>for a single-user system it is.  But sudo documentation very
> >>explicitly warns that, if you're not careful about what you allow, you
> >>could accidentally allow access to far more than you expected.
> > 
> >=2E..it seems like a good idea on a single-user machine to allow sudo
> >dpkg -i... sudo dpkg -i make_bash_setuid_root.deb
> > 
> 
> I'm a bit confused ... you snipped out the part where I said that it's
> probably fine for a single-user machine, then added your own comment to
> that effect, and instructions for installing it ... 

Er, I left that bit in, then added an example to show how it may be
little different from leaving root wide open if someone does get into
your account... always a possibility if you're on the net.

> For the record, I have it installed.  But I still think that espousing
> sudo as a panacea, without encouraging people to read the documentation
> and understand the potential pitfalls, is not the right thing to do.

Agreed.

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Re: Microsoft good press over Longhorn

2003-10-30 Thread Paul Johnson
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On Fri, Oct 31, 2003 at 08:34:38AM +1100, Joyce, Matthew wrote:
> Excel is pretty neat and I wish there was a DOC Edit clone for linux.

koffice?

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Re: Microsoft good press over Longhorn

2003-10-30 Thread Paul Johnson
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On Thu, Oct 30, 2003 at 01:00:59PM -0500, Kevin MacNeil wrote:
> Microsoft's software has always sucked, so I can't imagine they're
> losing too much sleep over quality or security, their Trusted
> Computing(tm) initiative notwithstanding.

Well, depends on what software we're talking about.  Microsoft can't
make an OS, but Train Sim was fun.

> Personally, I think Trusted Computing is intended for Microsoft, the
> various large copyright holders, and three-letter
> government agencies,

Umm, the NSA doesn't like Windows.  They actually maintain their own
set of kernel patches to make Linux more secure.
http://www.nsa.gov/selinux/index.html

Another three-letter agency, the ESD in Multnomah County, Oregon...you
know, the one that got threatened by Microsoft[1], created their own
Linux distribution years before Microsoft threatened them.
http://w3.mesd.k12.or.us/  Multnomah ESD
http://www.k12ltsp.org/Their distro

Needless to say, Multnomah ESD did *not* take kindly to threats and
said, "Oh, in that case, we'll just use our in-house OS everywhere.
Screw you."  When Microsoft backed down, unfortunately, the ESD went
to their original conversion timeline, which is pretty glacial.  At
least it's getting done.

[1] http://slashdot.org/articles/02/04/22/1719218.shtml?tid=109

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/var/mail/ and /var/spool/mail/

2003-10-30 Thread Micha Feigin
I saw that there are these two directories. /var/mail/ seems to be
in mbox formal and /var/spool/mail/ in maildir format.
They both seem to coexist on my system and I was wondering what program
is writing to which and is there some sync between them in either
direction?

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RE: Microsoft good press over Longhorn

2003-10-30 Thread Joyce, Matthew
> -Original Message-
> From: Tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, 31 October 2003 9:33 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Microsoft good press over Longhorn
> 
> 
> On Fri, Oct 31, 2003 at 08:34:38AM +1100, Joyce, Matthew wrote:
> > Excel is pretty neat and I wish there was a DOC Edit clone 
> for linux.
> 
> When I worked at Microsoft there was some discussion: far and 
> away the 
> most common use-case for Excel is entering a few rows and columns of 
> data and making a chart.  But nobody uses Microsoft tools 
> like Microsoft 
> itself: you should have *seen* some of the fancy spreadsheets the 
> GM-level staff put together.
> 
> I have this belief that 90% of jobs are unnecessary; they are just 
> something for people to do all day because otherwise they'd 
> go out and 
> burn cars.  Most of the things I have to do with Excel and 
> Word fall in 
> that category.
> 
> For small datasets, I finally realized plaintext files and 
> simple tools 
> like gnuplot are more flexible than Excel.
> 
> 

Granted most people who use Excel will not use many of the features, Excel
97 will be ok for most.
I would imagine Gnumeric has heaps of stuff most people wont use too.

I know the finance people I have worked with love excel and are proficient
at using it, for them it is a totally useful tool.
The researchers here all us excel and it is very useful and easy to be to
wite vba functions and have them centralised and shared.

Having Excel on PCs, Mac OS9 and OSX is also useful.

For myself, I like the formula auditing function of Excel, I find it
extremely useful.
http://techrepublic.com.com/5100-6270-1061218.html

I'm not particulaly pro MS, but I find the "Microsoft's software has always
sucked" rant boring.

I know this is a linux list, and no doubt I'm in for a roasting.

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Re: Fw: X Windos System will not start

2003-10-30 Thread Hoyt Bailey

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From: "Kent West" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Hoyt Bailey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Stephen Cormier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 11:16
Subject: Re: Fw: X Windos System will not start


> Hoyt Bailey wrote:
>
> >>Current Subject getting a working /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 (Kent West Oct
> >>26,2003)
> >>
> >>Stephen Cormier sent me a copy of his XF86Config-4 file which gave me a
lot more confidence.
> >>
> >>
> 
>
> >>I believe the only problem with the differences is my identification of
the video card I likely should change it to GeForce4 MX440(I cannot verify
the
> >>SE and since I dont know anything about this perhaps I should leave it
off..
> >>
> >>
> >>If Stephen can comment I would appreciate his comments on this and the
> >>entire problem.
> >>
> >>
>
> >I did not recieve any reply perhaps you missed this.  Could the following
be
> >the problem:
> >uname -a: Linux Blackgold 2.4.18-bf24 #1 son Apr 14 09:53:28 CEST 2002
i686
> >unknown
> >My system was built May 2003.  13 months later.
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> Having never played with a Geforce card, I can't really add anything.
> But I doubt the problem is your version of Linux (the kernel). Instead,
> I suspect that Stephen is running a newer version of X than you are. I
> suspect you're running the X that's in stable, and Stephen is running
> the X that's in testing or unstable or otherwise acquired.
>
> If you haven't tried updating to testing or sid, you might give that a
shot.
>
> -- 
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>
>
>
>
I think you are right.  Haines Brown gave me some good information about the
nvidia driver and I am going to take it like I told him "I hope that light
is the end of this tunnel or it could be a train. No matter all I have
installed is an initall install".
Thanks for your assistance.
Regards;
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Re: printing with lpd to remote printer

2003-10-30 Thread Alvin Oga


hi ya rudy

On Thu, 30 Oct 2003, Mark Roach wrote:

> On Thu, 2003-10-30 at 11:01, Rudy Gevaert wrote:
> [...]
> > When I send a postscript file to the printer it gets nicely printed.  
> > When I send a txt file to it, the lines don't get linewrapped.
> [...]

when printing to the remote printer, it does all the filtering
not the  "lp" local print server

all your filtering is done on :rp: ( remoteprinter )
and :rm: which i assume you need to change its name to the real ip#
and hostnames

only options needed for  this print server to talk to the
"real printer server that has the printerconnected to it"

workstation# cat /etc/printcap
# 
# Minimum entries needed for workstation to be able
# to print to the printer connected to "LP_ServerIP"
# 
lp|Epson800:\
  :sd=/var/spool/lpd/lp:\
  :rm=LP_ServerIP:

LP_ServerIP#  cat /etc/printcap
#
# it would have all the local filtering
#
lp|Epson800:\
:lp=/dev/lp0:\
:sd=/var/spool/lpd:\
:pw:132:\
:fq:\
:sh:mx#0:\
:if=/usr/local/sbin/printers/stc800:\
:lf=/var/spool/lpd/lp-log:

# change :if:, the printer filter for your printer

restart lpd ...

c ya
alvin

> > # Remote Laserjet 4200n
> > lp|hp|laserjet|Laserjet 4200 n:\
> >  :lp=:\
> >  :rm=wieske.tollembeek:\
> >  :rp=remoteprinter:\
> >  :sd=/var/spool/lpd/4200:\
> >  :mx#0:\
> >  :sh:
> 
> try adding :sf:
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Re: Microsoft good press over Longhorn

2003-10-30 Thread Paul Johnson
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On Thu, Oct 30, 2003 at 11:18:56AM -0600, Ray wrote:
> if you heard there was a movie/game/tech that had marketing running
> for 3 years before release, wouldn't that be a sign of major suckage
> to you too?

History is repeating itself.  See also: Daikatana.  I would have said
Duke Nukem Forever, but it *still* hasn't come out (originally was
slated to compete against Quake II), but at the rate it's going, it's
more like Duke Nukem Whenever.

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Re: Microsoft good press over Longhorn

2003-10-30 Thread Paul Johnson
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On Thu, Oct 30, 2003 at 08:41:29AM -0800, Tom wrote:
> It's like watching somebody involved in a bad marriage: I'll just stick 
> by him/her, they're bound to change.  It's worth it, if only for the 
> kids.

I can't wait until the ugly divorce.

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Re: Converting a partition from NTFS to Ext3

2003-10-30 Thread Paul Johnson
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On Wed, Oct 29, 2003 at 09:43:58PM -0800, Rodney D. Myers wrote:
> ext2 is built on top of ext2.

Bob Dole doesn't talk about Bob Dole?


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Re: Horizontal Sync

2003-10-30 Thread Paul Johnson
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On Thu, Oct 30, 2003 at 10:42:50AM -, Tom Hinkley wrote:
> I have a Blade T64 AGP graphics card installed and working with KDE
> at 800x600 however i wish to find my monitors HorizSync value (i
> found the refresh rate on the manufacturers website) but i still
> need the HorizSync.

http://www.monitorworld.com/ holds the answers.

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Debian on Compaq Evo N800w

2003-10-30 Thread Brant Langer Gurganus
I am trying to set up Debian linux on a Compaq Evo N800w (Mobile Pentium 
4, 1GB RAM, onboard LAN, Video, and Sound, Wireless LAN USB Device).  
The current issues I am having is that ACPI support by the kernel is not 
up-to-date enough to recognize the components of my system.  My 
understanding is that I report that to the Kernel mailing list or 
bugzilla.  For doing that, does anybody know a way to easily save the 
Kernel bootlog and other pertinent files so I can access them from my 
fully functional Windows partition.  Additional issue is that the 
Debian-stable version of XFree86 does not support my video hardware, 
though it appears that 4.3.0 does.  Does anybody have a Debian package 
for that?

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Re: Converting a partition from NTFS to Ext3

2003-10-30 Thread Paul Johnson
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On Thu, Oct 30, 2003 at 12:08:55AM -0500, Roberto Sanchez wrote:
> That is actually the case for every filesystem conversion (that I can
> think of).

msdos to vfat and vfat to ntfs convert smoothly with Microsoft's
tools.  ext2 to ext3 is a one-command-wonder conversion.

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Re: Converting a partition from NTFS to Ext3

2003-10-30 Thread Paul Johnson
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On Wed, Oct 29, 2003 at 09:34:33PM -0200, Frederico Rodrigues Abraham wrote:
>   Hi.
>   How can i do this without losing the data on my NTFS partition?

Only if you have another hard drive to back up to.  It's not like ext2
to ext3 where you can just run something and expect it to work, this
is fdisk, format, restore time.

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Setting up linux-wlan-ng with Kernel 2.4.22 Was: Why is linux-wlan-ng not an ordinary part of the kernel?

2003-10-30 Thread Mariano Kamp
Hi Mark,

> > > no, you don't need linux-wlan-ng for this. The stock orinoco_cs driver
> > > works just fine in my laptop.

> > Ok, I get it working without encryption, but not with encryption. Did you
> > get this working with WEP128?

> using which module? the stock orinoco_cs module? Sorry, I don't use wep.
> I use application level encryption and ipsec. Maybe someone else has
> though...

Yep, I compiled the 2.4.22 sources from unstable, but after reading the other 
posting from david am now moving to wlan-ng. At least I have found an option 
to use WEP128 there. 

> > Btw. If some day a 2.4.22 module will come out, how would I tell my
> > system not use the pcmci stuff anymore, but the wlan-ng?

> by installing linux-wlan-ng which inserts the module info in /etc/pcmcia

I added the description reported by card manager to wlan-ng.conf and mapped it 
to prism2_cs. Furthermore I removed the mapping for my card from /etc/pcmcia/
config.  We'll see how that works. 

I am currently waiting on the kernel-compulation as prism2_cs has not been 
found/built whatever (find /lib/modules/ - name *ism* didn't return 
anything). 
I now added links in /usr/src/modules/pcmcia-cs to /usr/src/
pcmcia- and the same for linux-wlan-ng. I also added 
--added-modules=pcmcia-cs and 

> > > There is no kernel citizenship hierarchy. Install the modules and they
> > > will work.

> > Unfortunately there is no module for 2.4.22 ;-(
> You mean no precompiled linux-wlan-ng modules? Yes, that's true. Maybe
> if you ask the maintainer to provide it.
Yeah, good idea. Will do that if I don't get it working with the sources.
With "not first class" I mean, that to me it is way harder to learn yet 
another way to compile the kernel.

Cheers,
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Re: Using Debian as a proxy

2003-10-30 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi David!

You wrote:

>Will Debian work as a proxy server, and will it mix with a Windows
>network to act as the proxy?

Sure, it will work fine, as will any other linux distribution.
>
>Is there a good readme that will help me install it as a proxy server
>if it can work.

Just installing the squid package should be enough to get your proxy to
work.  If you need to do fancier stuff, like transparent proxying (so
that all outgoing http traffic is automatically routed through your
proxy), or firewalling, you should take a look at the Firewall and Proxy
HOWTO.  It can be found at http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Firewall-HOWTO.html  

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AWE64 Gold Memory Upgrade

2003-10-30 Thread lggotgame2003





Hi Sir, 
 
I would greatly like to upgrade my AWE64 Gold 
soundcard with 24MB of Memory.
I know this module (RAM) exists, but finding 
one is hard, which is why I ask for your help.
 
If you provide this memory module or any 
other for the Creative AWE64 Gold Soundcard I would be very happy to buy it from 
you for any price you feel suitable. Or if you cannot, do you know anywhere else 
I might be able to get it from??
 
Thank you Sir,
Malvern Carter, 
London


Re: Microsoft good press over Longhorn

2003-10-30 Thread John Hasler
Paul Smith writes:
> One thing that you can do in Excel that I know you can't do in OOo Calc,
> for example, is create surface graphs; I've wanted to generate those cool
> graphs from my iozone data

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 PLOTMTV's capabilities include 2D line and scatter plots (x-vs-y),
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Re: Mplayer Problem

2003-10-30 Thread Roberto Sanchez
Stefan Seifert wrote:
Hi,
I've got an problem with mplayer.
I've installed mplayer with this apt-source http://marillat.free.fr/.
The problem is fullscreen doesn't work probably when I switch to 
fullscreen the "size" of the image doesn't resize to fit the whole 
screen. So a big black border is around the image of the film.

Does anyone the problem or can help me to fix it?

Make sure that you start mplayer with the zoom command, or use
gmplayer, which zooms by default.
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Re: Microsoft good press over Longhorn

2003-10-30 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 at 22:33 GMT, Tom penned:
> 
> When I worked at Microsoft there was some discussion: far and away the
> most common use-case for Excel is entering a few rows and columns of
> data and making a chart.  But nobody uses Microsoft tools like
> Microsoft itself: you should have *seen* some of the fancy
> spreadsheets the GM-level staff put together.

I'm being forced to use Excel and Powerpoint at work.  I hate it.  It's
not just MS-specific, in this case:  I hate data entry, and I hate
prettifying it.

Hah, vim just indented that line because I had a "case statement" in it.
Too funny!  Anyhoo ...

Where was I?  Oh, yes.  Using froo-froo presentation tools.  It sucks.
Developers shouldn't have to do this crap =/  And definitely shouldn't
be judged by whether they're using the right colors, fonts, etc.

> 
> I have this belief that 90% of jobs are unnecessary; they are just
> something for people to do all day because otherwise they'd go out and
> burn cars.  Most of the things I have to do with Excel and Word fall
> in that category.
> 
> For small datasets, I finally realized plaintext files and simple
> tools like gnuplot are more flexible than Excel.
> 
> 


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Re: printing with lpd to remote printer

2003-10-30 Thread Mark Roach
On Thu, 2003-10-30 at 11:01, Rudy Gevaert wrote:
[...]
> When I send a postscript file to the printer it gets nicely printed.  
> When I send a txt file to it, the lines don't get linewrapped.
[...]
> # Remote Laserjet 4200n
> lp|hp|laserjet|Laserjet 4200 n:\
>  :lp=:\
>  :rm=wieske.tollembeek:\
>  :rp=remoteprinter:\
>  :sd=/var/spool/lpd/4200:\
>  :mx#0:\
>  :sh:

try adding :sf:
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fetchyahoo and maildir

2003-10-30 Thread Micha Feigin
Is there a way to use the fetchyahoo program with maildirs?
It seems that using the pipe option to exim or sendmail may work but I
wasn't sure.

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Re: Q: Why is linux-wlan-ng not an ordinary part of the kernel?

2003-10-30 Thread Mark Roach
On Thu, 2003-10-30 at 14:15, Mariano Kamp wrote:
[...]
> > no, you don't need linux-wlan-ng for this. The stock orinoco_cs driver
> > works just fine in my laptop.
> Ok, I get it working without encryption, but not with encryption. Did you get 
> this working with WEP128?

using which module? the stock orinoco_cs module? Sorry, I don't use wep.
I use application level encryption and ipsec. Maybe someone else has
though...

> Btw. If some day a 2.4.22 module will come out, how would I tell my system not 
> use the pcmci stuff anymore, but the wlan-ng?

by installing linux-wlan-ng which inserts the module info in /etc/pcmcia

> > There is no kernel citizenship hierarchy. Install the modules and they
> > will work.
> Unfortunately there is no module for 2.4.22 ;-(

You mean no precompiled linux-wlan-ng modules? Yes, that's true. Maybe
if you ask the maintainer to provide it.
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Re: Microsoft good press over Longhorn

2003-10-30 Thread Paul Smith
%% "David Palmer." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

  dp> Gnomes' Gnumeric has full excel functionality.

Is that true?

One thing that you can do in Excel that I know you can't do in OOo Calc,
for example, is create surface graphs; I've wanted to generate those
cool graphs from my iozone data (see http://www.iozone.org) but I'm not
willing to install Windows to do it.

If Gnumeric can do this I'll definitely have to give it a whirl...

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courier-imap setup - can't authenticate and maildir Q

2003-10-30 Thread Micha Feigin
I installed the courier imap server (including ssl) on my home gateway
to handle incoming mail.
The problem is that when I try to connect to it I keep getting a reply
that I can't authenticate with the server.
When first configuring the account to connect using ssl I get a message
that there is a problem with the certificate but again authentication
fails afterwords.
Also the setup file says that courier only handles maildirs. I currently
have exim installed for smtp. I uncommented the option for maildirs in
the config file and converted the mbox into a maildir with the same name
in the same location. Is that the right thing to do?

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Re: Sound processing

2003-10-30 Thread Kjetil Kjernsmo
On Thursday 30 October 2003 22:52, David Turetsky wrote:
> Pray tell, what software is out there to process/edit sound files?
>
> Will it allow intelligent cleaning up (filtering out specific sounds,
> raising the volume level, snipping out segments) of files

I took a course in the field once, everything was done at command line 
with MATLAB (now, I'd rather write code to do it in R, though that's a 
statistics system, install r-recommended... :-) ). 

However, that's probably not what you're looking for. I just installed 
the brahms package, which looks like a sound editing system for KDE. 
Haven't tried it yet, but it looks interesting. Unfortunately, at has 
not been updated in a year. Anyway, see http://brahms.sourceforge.net/

> And how can I then burn a CD converting to WAV format?

Dunno. I thought that CD's had WAVs...?

BTW, when you a new post to the list, you should not reply to a previous 
post, because a decent mail program will thread posts so that your 
message follows the one you replied to. And I can see you really need a 
new mail program... (Hint!) :-) 

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Re: Microsoft good press over Longhorn

2003-10-30 Thread Tom
On Fri, Oct 31, 2003 at 08:34:38AM +1100, Joyce, Matthew wrote:
> Excel is pretty neat and I wish there was a DOC Edit clone for linux.

When I worked at Microsoft there was some discussion: far and away the 
most common use-case for Excel is entering a few rows and columns of 
data and making a chart.  But nobody uses Microsoft tools like Microsoft 
itself: you should have *seen* some of the fancy spreadsheets the 
GM-level staff put together.

I have this belief that 90% of jobs are unnecessary; they are just 
something for people to do all day because otherwise they'd go out and 
burn cars.  Most of the things I have to do with Excel and Word fall in 
that category.

For small datasets, I finally realized plaintext files and simple tools 
like gnuplot are more flexible than Excel.


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Problem with exporting an X session

2003-10-30 Thread Tim
Greetings,

I have been having problems on my debian box regarding
exporting a display from an HPOV server. I keep
getting the Error: Can't open display: message. I am
using ssh and have modified my sshd config file to
allow X11 forwarding and have tried using the -X and
-g arguments. I have tried xhost + as well, all to no
avail. Has anyone had a similar problem? Thanks


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Re: Microsoft good press over Longhorn

2003-10-30 Thread Kjetil Kjernsmo
On Thursday 30 October 2003 22:34, Joyce, Matthew wrote:
> Excel is pretty neat

Have you tried =mod(9.3, 3.1) lately?   Or was it 3.1, 9.3? Anyway, it 
should be 0, and it isn't in any versions of Excel I have seen. One 
thing I would require from such a software package was that it gave 
reasonably reliable answers... :-) 

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Re: Microsoft good press over Longhorn

2003-10-30 Thread David Palmer.
On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 08:34:38 +1100
"Joyce, Matthew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> > 
> > Microsoft's software has always sucked, so I can't imagine 
> > they're losing too much sleep over quality or security, their Trusted
> > Computing(tm) initiative notwithstanding.
> > 
> 
> Excel is pretty neat and I wish there was a DOC Edit clone for linux.
> 
> m
> 
Gnomes' Gnumeric has full excel functionality.
Regards,

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Re: Microsoft good press over Longhorn

2003-10-30 Thread David Palmer.
On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 11:18:56 -0600
Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Thursday 30 October 2003 10:41, Tom wrote:
> > Has anybody else been surprised by the amount of good press MS is
> > getting this week over longhorn?  I think people are looking at the
> > Mac OS9 -> OSX total rewrite and projecting wishes for MS to do
> > something as drastic.
> >
> > It's like watching somebody involved in a bad marriage: I'll just
> > stick by him/her, they're bound to change.  It's worth it, if only
> > for the kids.
> >
> > It's always interesting to watch 'em finally wake up.
> 
> the way i was looking at it is longhorn must be horrible if the 
> marketing has to get this much of a running start on reviews before 
> the actual scheduled release(was it 2006?).  if you heard there was a 
> movie/game/tech that had marketing running for 3 years before 
> release, wouldn't that be a sign of major suckage to you too?
> 
A problem for them at the moment apparently, is the fact that a lot of
what they classify as 'unearned revenue', that is, projected revenue
from renewal of licencing, has been drastically reduced. This could well
lead to more activity on the marketing front in an effort to rejuvenate
income. A further expense that the earnings from Longhorn will have to
justify. Good!
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Re: Simple little basic config questions

2003-10-30 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 at 20:43 GMT, Pigeon penned:
> 
> --PLVMksexArUZ/iL3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding:
> quoted-printable
> 
> On Thu, Oct 30, 2003 at 11:03:23AM -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote:
>> On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 at 15:52 GMT, Kent West penned:
>> > I echo Colin's thought. Forget about "su" and use "sudo". It takes
>> > an extra 5 keystrokes per command, but it "just works", and in my
>> > opinion is better than forgetting you're root and doing something
>> > you don't want to do.
>> >=20 apt-get install sudo visudo, add yourself a line similar to
>> >what's already there sudo command_to_be_run_as_root =20
>>=20 People keep talking about sudo like it's the cat's meow, and maybe
>>for a single-user system it is.  But sudo documentation very
>>explicitly warns that, if you're not careful about what you allow, you
>>could accidentally allow access to far more than you expected.
> 
>=2E..it seems like a good idea on a single-user machine to allow sudo
>dpkg -i... sudo dpkg -i make_bash_setuid_root.deb
> 

I'm a bit confused ... you snipped out the part where I said that it's
probably fine for a single-user machine, then added your own comment to
that effect, and instructions for installing it ... 

For the record, I have it installed.  But I still think that espousing
sudo as a panacea, without encouraging people to read the documentation
and understand the potential pitfalls, is not the right thing to do.

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debian-user yes

2003-10-30 Thread Brian
Hi debian-user

Herbal-RX has long been a leader in Male enhancement. nbpuenm

Learn More: http://www.herbal-rx.us


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Sound processing

2003-10-30 Thread David Turetsky


Pray tell, what software is out there to process/edit sound files?

Will it allow intelligent cleaning up (filtering out specific sounds,
raising the volume level, snipping out segments) of files

And how can I then burn a CD converting to WAV format?

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Re: Converting a partition from NTFS to Ext3.

2003-10-30 Thread David Palmer.

This may not be exactly what you are looking for, but here is the link to the utility 
I was referring to in an earlier post:-

http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?forum_id=321792

Hope this helps.
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Re: no sound in galeon/mozilla flash

2003-10-30 Thread Mental Patient
Nori Heikkinen wrote:
short version: i can't get sound with flash in mozilla or galeon.

longer version: 
i've installed flashplugin-nonfree and libflash0.  i can see flash
movies in my two browsers (haven't tested it on anything else), but i
can't hear anything.

sometimes xmms is running when this happens; sometimes not.  

sound in general works.

can anyone help me out here?  all i want at work is a little
homestarrunner!
thanks a lot,





Some sound cards (sblive and... i forget) support multiple opens in 
hardware. Meaning, more than one program can open and use /dev/dsp at once.

Other cards do not support this, so if one program is using /dev/dsp, 
nobody else can. For desktop environments, this is largely worked around 
by using a dsp wrapper (esound for gnome, artsd for kde) and using that 
daemon to get to sound instead. xmms has plugins for both, or it can use 
alsa/oss natively. The downside is that this adds a little latency to 
the sound, but personally I've never noticed it. Then again, at home my 
primary sound card supports multiple opens so not everything is using 
artsd.

You didn't mention what the underlying sound system is, but it doesnt 
matter much as I do belive flash only supports oss. If you're using 
alsa, load the oss compatibility modules for playing pcm data and using 
the mixer.

If none of this helps, do an 'fuser -v /dev/dsp' and see what processes 
are using it. Kill them and retry using flash (you might have to restart 
the brower completely as I'm not sure that flash ever retries the open 
on the soundcard).



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RE: Microsoft good press over Longhorn

2003-10-30 Thread Joyce, Matthew

> 
> Microsoft's software has always sucked, so I can't imagine 
> they're losing too much sleep over quality or security, their Trusted
> Computing(tm) initiative notwithstanding.
> 

Excel is pretty neat and I wish there was a DOC Edit clone for linux.

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phonetic symbols

2003-10-30 Thread L.F.
First of all thanks to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for his comments. I have 
OpenOffice 1.1.0; it is probably the latest version.I am not sure whether I 
understand what you mena by "They use the space bar and not the tab". In 
Windows I had everything in just one file; I converted it to Linux; then I 
copied big chunks of it and pasted it in the 8 files; suppose that "because" 
is in the middle of a line and the next word "there ..."  is not in the same 
line but at the beginning of the following line; if I try to put  "there ..." 
behind "because" to eliminate the blank space, I put the cursor after 
"because" and I press Supr, then I save, close and open; the text has 
disappeared. I was told by my friend that converting files from Linux to 
Windows would be much worse; I am ready to believe it because big fish don't 
have to worry about small fish but small fish have to worry about big fish. I 
bet that OpenOffice is wonderful as far as conversion is concerned but there 
is something lacking. Well, the text is very long indeed: 960 pages in size 
8, probably over 1500 pages in size 12; we are a group of more than twenty 
Englisg-speaking teachers working in Spain and assisting a Spanish professor 
of English who has dedicated over 30 years to writing what is considered at 
the moment the best book in Spanish to learn English; that book was published 
only a few weeks ago with the title "Guía para los amantes del inglés"; it 
has 960 pages in size 14.8 x 21 with letters in size 8, which is small but 
not as small s some dictionaries of English, for example; it costs 15 euros, 
which is very little in Spain; it offers 30 000 euros to any person who 
presents another book in Spanish or any other language in the world that is 
better and cheaper; the only language that is excluded is English because it 
has to be in two languages: English and Spanish or whatever. On top of that 
people who buy or have access to the book can ask as many questions as they 
wish for 3 years without paying any money. If you are interested, go to 
www.guiadelingles.com  
We are not businessmen; we are altruists and passionate about English and 
Spanish; therefore I would interested in reading about what other people may 
comment or do  concerning your wonderful suggestion.
Secondly thanks to Hoyt Bailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> for his comments. Can it 
help me? I use Debian knoppix.
Thirdly thanks to Richard Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> for his comments.
Actually this version of Openoffice calls TeX the tippa fonts I downloaded; I 
had said that they were called LatEx but I suppose that they are all the 
same.
Finally I must say that another positive thing about Linux is that I am 
learning much more about computers than I ever learned with Windows. 


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Re: Has SWEN finally died?

2003-10-30 Thread Pigeon
On Thu, Oct 30, 2003 at 01:15:05PM -0500, Marc Shapiro wrote:
> On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:39:05 -0700 Paul E Condon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> 
> >I'm getting one every 2 or 3 hrs. Down from ~5/hr three days ago. Theory: 
> >If you don't post to this list for many days, the infected machines
> >which have your email address in their lists of targets gradually get 
> >disinfected, and your incoming swen gradually goes to zero. But, if you 
> >post, you run the
> >risk of a new wave of swen.
> 
> That is why all of my posting is now done through this hotmail account, 
> which I use for nothing else.  So far, I have received no spam of any sort 
> through it.  It is not ending up in the bulk mail box.  It simply is not 
> coming in at all.  Either no one (including SWEN) has found the box yet, or 
> hotmail is actually doing a proper job of filtering he mess.  Could 
> MicroSquish actually have done something right, for a change?

...if the alternative is everyone saying "don't use hotmail, you'll
get virused to @$#%" they probably have... their own mail service
screwing up their own OS wouldn't look very good.

I find swen to be highly variable; I got several hundred yesterday but
only a few tens today. My gut feeling is that's just a blip on the
curve.

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Re: Simple little basic config questions

2003-10-30 Thread Pigeon
On Thu, Oct 30, 2003 at 11:03:23AM -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote:
> On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 at 15:52 GMT, Kent West penned:
> > I echo Colin's thought. Forget about "su" and use "sudo". It takes an
> > extra 5 keystrokes per command, but it "just works", and in my opinion
> > is better than forgetting you're root and doing something you don't
> > want to do.
> > 
> > apt-get install sudo visudo, add yourself a line similar to what's
> > already there sudo command_to_be_run_as_root
> > 
> 
> People keep talking about sudo like it's the cat's meow, and maybe for a
> single-user system it is.  But sudo documentation very explicitly warns
> that, if you're not careful about what you allow, you could accidentally
> allow access to far more than you expected.

...it seems like a good idea on a single-user machine to allow sudo
dpkg -i... sudo dpkg -i make_bash_setuid_root.deb

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via-rhine problems with dlink DFE-530TX

2003-10-30 Thread ScruLoose
Hi again, folks,

I have this kind of ongoing issue with a machine that's got a
pretty-much clean install of woody, and has a D-Link DFE-530TX NIC in it
that doesn't want to play nice with Debian.

When I configure it all up manually (specifying an IP and netmask on the
ifconfig command-line and doing a route add for my default gw) and then
ping my gateway, it lags for a while and then spits out this:
  PING 192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1): 56 data bytes
  NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth0: transmit timed out
  eth0: Transmit timed out, status , PHY status 786d, resetting...
  eth0: Reset not complete yet. Trying harder.
  eth0: Setting full-duplex based on MII #1 link partner capability of 45e1.
  
  --- 192.168.1.1 ping statistics ---
  17 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100% packet loss


As I mentioned in an earlier post, I _know_ the hardware is good,
because under Knoppix it works like a charm. And I'm _pretty_ sure that
I've ironed out the wrinkles that were due to my (mis)configuration...
Knoppix is using a 2.4.21 kernel. My woody install is currently using
2.4.22 from kernel.org source, though I've also tried the bf24 kernel
and 2.4.21 from debian source.

At this point, I can only think of three things it might be:
 -  Knoppix using some patches to the kernel or driver
 -  My custom kernel has some option that conflicts with via-rhine
 -  Knoppix is passing some arguments to the module

So now I'm trying to dismantle the process to see if I can figure out
which it is.  Starting with arguments passed to the module, 'cause it
seems easiest (and maybe most likely?)...

dmesg under knoppix (where the card works) shows this:
  via-rhine.c:v1.10-LK1.1.17  March-1-2003  Written by Donald Becker
http://www.scyld.com/network/via-rhine.html
  PCI: Found IRQ 11 for device 00:0b.0
  eth0: VIA VT6105 Rhine-III at 0xe800, 00:05:5d:75:3c:e1, IRQ 11.
  eth0: MII PHY found at address 1, status 0x7869 advertising 05e1 Link 45e1.

dmesg under woody (where I get the error shown above) shows this:
  via-rhine.c:v1.10-LK1.1.19  July-12-2003  Written by Donald Becker
http://www.scyld.com/network/via-rhine.html
  PCI: Found IRQ 11 for device 00:0b.0
  eth0: VIA VT6105 Rhine-III at 0x6800, 00:05:5d:75:3c:e1, IRQ 11.
  eth0: MII PHY found at address 1, status 0x7869 advertising 05e1 Link 45e1.

Now, I'm noticing it says "VIA VT6105 Rhine-III at" different values...
I dunno what that means but it kinda doesn't smell right.

Is that value something I can/should be passing as an argument to the
module? Is it the io argument?  Does it look like a plausible cause for
my problem?

Oh, and is it possible to pass arguments to a compiled-in driver, or do
I have to go back and compile again with via-rhine as a module?

Other suggestions?  Ideas?

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vim print via :hardcopy does not find 'prolog.ps'

2003-10-30 Thread Lou Losee
Don't know when this went belly-up, but when I try to print from vim
1.6.1-320.1, using :hardcopy, I get the following error:

E456: Can't find PostScript resource file "prolog.ps".

When I do a find for "prolog.ps, I find 3 instances that according to
diff are all the same (except for cvs type comments):

/usr/lib/perl5/Tk/prolog.ps
/usr/lib/tk8.3/prolog.ps
/usr.lib/tk8.4/prolog.ps

I did a re-install of vim and that did not help at all.

Anyone have any ideas?

Lou



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Hauppauge Nexus - Problem

2003-10-30 Thread Sebastian 'Frank©' Wieseler
Hello guys,
I have a problem but I can't see how to resolve it, please help me.
I have bought a Hauppauge Nexus-card and download "your" driver
(http://www.linuxtv.org/download/dvb/linuxtv-dvb-1.0.0.tar.gz).
Then I compiled my kernel (2.4.20):
 Video For Linux
 I2C support
 Input core support
 Event interface support
# make bzImage modules modules_install && [...]
and after a reboot I extract your source-code in /usr/local/src/DVB/
# make
# cd driver
# make
# make insmod
[...]
Using /lib/modules/2.4.20/kernel/drivers/media/video/videodev.o
make[1]: Entering directory
`/usr/local/src/linuxtv-dvb-1.0.0/driver/frontends'
insmod alps_bsrv2.o;   insmod alps_tdmb7.o;   insmod alps_tdlb7.o;
insmod grundig_29504-401.o;   insmod grundig_29504-491.o;   insmod
stv0299.o;   insmod ves1820.o;   insmod tda1004x.o;   insmod mt312.o;
make[1]: Leaving directory
`/usr/local/src/linuxtv-dvb-1.0.0/driver/frontends'
make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/local/src/linuxtv-dvb-1.0.0/driver/av7110'
insmod input; \
insmod evdev; \
insmod dvb-ttpci.o;
Using /lib/modules/2.4.20/kernel/drivers/input/input.o
insmod: a module named input already exists
Using /lib/modules/2.4.20/kernel/drivers/input/evdev.o
insmod: a module named evdev already exists
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/src/linuxtv-dvb-1.0.0/driver/av7110'
make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/local/src/linuxtv-dvb-1.0.0/driver/b2c2'
insmod skystar2.o;
skystar2.o: init_module: No such device
Hint: insmod errors can be caused by incorrect module parameters,
including invalid IO or IRQ parameters
make[1]: [insmod] Error 1 (ignored)
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/src/linuxtv-dvb-1.0.0/driver/b2c2'
sync
Then I try to start xawtv:
# xawtv
This is xawtv-3.72, running on Linux/i686 (2.4.20)
ioctl: VIDIOCGTUNER(0,,range=0-0,flags=0x0,mode=0,signal=0): Invalid
argument
ioctl: VIDIOCGFREQ(8419102.625 MHz): Invalid argument
ioctl: VIDIOCSFREQ(268435455.938 MHz): Invalid argument
Fast I notice that xawtv lookup the false device:
# xawtv -c /dev/dvb/adapter0/dvr0
This is xawtv-3.72, running on Linux/i686 (2.4.20)
can't open /dev/dvb/adapter0/dvr0: Operation not supported
v4l-conf had some trouble, trying to continue anyway
v4l: open /dev/dvb/adapter0/dvr0: Operation not supported
v4l2: open /dev/dvb/adapter0/dvr0: Operation not supported
no video grabber device available
At this point I don't know, what I can do now.
Do you see what I can do? Please help!
Sebastian Wieseler

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Re: Re: fstab usb entries

2003-10-30 Thread Gabriele Persia
[debian-user ML]

I apologise for replying with so much delay, but I didn't subscribe
debian-user ML so I coulnd' read your answer.
(next time, when posting to ML, I'll ask to reply off-list too)


>They do exactly the same thing. The first entry is the file system and in 
>this case you can use either none or usbdevfs (its a virtual file system).
>So the answer is you only need one of them doesn't matter which.

Ok, maybe the installation script should look for either line in mtab/fstab 
before complaining...  ;-)

Thanks for your time,
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no sound in galeon/mozilla flash

2003-10-30 Thread Nori Heikkinen
short version: i can't get sound with flash in mozilla or galeon.

longer version: 
i've installed flashplugin-nonfree and libflash0.  i can see flash
movies in my two browsers (haven't tested it on anything else), but i
can't hear anything.

sometimes xmms is running when this happens; sometimes not.  

sound in general works.

can anyone help me out here?  all i want at work is a little
homestarrunner!

thanks a lot,



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Re: Mplayer Problem

2003-10-30 Thread Micha Feigin
On Thu, 2003-10-30 at 18:39, Stefan Seifert wrote:
> Hi,
> I've got an problem with mplayer.
> I've installed mplayer with this apt-source http://marillat.free.fr/.
> 
> The problem is fullscreen doesn't work probably when I switch to 
> fullscreen the "size" of the image doesn't resize to fit the whole 
> screen. So a big black border is around the image of the film.
> 
> Does anyone the problem or can help me to fix it?
> 

I had this problem when running it in the console using the vesa frame
buffer. Never tried it with a frame buffer under X.
Sounds like you have a problem with the video acceleration.
What X and video card/driver are you using.
Try to see if mplayer -vo xv or mplayer -vo gl work (I guess they won't
but maybe you'll get lucky. Otherwise maybe a proper accelerated video
driver will help).
Also try looking in the help about software scaling. It will probably
too slow, depending on you cpu but could point at the problem.
> Thanks anyway.
> 
> Best regards,
>   Steve
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seek error on reiserfs disk

2003-10-30 Thread Vivek Kumar
Hi,

I am trying ot read a backup disk created on Redhat 8.0 on Debian
system. The disk is mounted as nfs filesystem on AIX box and we were
trying ot restore data.
It read the disks for sometime and then gives an error ( I believe seek
error) and hangs.
Can we read the disk / files created on Redhat 8.0 and read it on any
other debian system. Is the kernel version a issue ?? I thought reiserfs
filesystem on any flavor of Linux can be read or written.

Any suggestions ??

V Kumar



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Linux Professional Institute Exam (with DPKG) !!!

2003-10-30 Thread Andy Firman
Hi,

Today I went to sign up for the Level 1 exams and was
surprised to see that there is now a choice between 
RPM and DPKG.  I did a quick search for news on this and 
found this post by the Debian project leader:

http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2003/debian-devel-announce-200310/msg00013.html

I thought the debian-user subscribers might be interested.

Also, has anyone taken the exams with DPKG?  

Any comments?

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Re: [OT] deleting pictures from digital camera via computer?

2003-10-30 Thread Andrew Perrin
Works fine for me on an HP digital camera with exactly the same path
structure.  I usually just mv the pictures and the camera figures it out.
It also works the other way: if I copy a .jpg picture to the camera it
ends up in the camera's stack and can be viewed on the internal LCD.

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On Thu, 30 Oct 2003, Kevin B. McCarty wrote:

> Hi all,
> I am using a Nikon CoolPix 3100 digital camera.  It is pretty easy to set
> up in Debian unstable.  It doesn't seem to be supported by gphoto2 or
> gtkam, but one can mount it as a USB mass storage device after installing
> hotplug, following the directions at this page:
>
> http://home.gagme.com/greg/linux/usbcamera.php
>
> Here is my question.  Once the camera is mounted (in my case, I put it at
> /mnt/camera), I can see the pictures here: /mnt/camera/dcim/100nikon/*.jpg
> If I want to delete them, can I just do "rm -f /mnt/camera/dcim/100nikon/*.jpg"
> or would this cause an internal database of the camera to get out of sync
> with the pictures actually present?  For obvious reasons I don't want to
> try this experiment myself so I'm hoping someone knows the answer.
>
> If it's safe to do this, it would be more convenient than going through
> the camera's menu screens to delete the pictures after they're safely on
> my hard disk.
>
> Please CC me since I'm not subscribed to the list.
>
> thanks and regards,
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AW: Configure PnP Card before Kernel loads modules

2003-10-30 Thread abo
Just ignore my last posting. 
Everything is allright now.

Thanks very much!

andreas

>If instead you used update-modules to add a line
>alias sound-slot-0 modulename
>to /etc/modules.conf, the driver will be loaded when needed.

thanks andreas & andre,

there's something wrong..

i did the following (sam9407 is the module name...):

i changend /etc/modutils/sam9407, so it just contains:
alias sound-slot-0 sam9407

then I did "update-modules", so my modules.conf was updated with the line
upove. after that I invoked "depmod -a" to update my modules.dep

after a reboot I get with lsmod:
homer:~# lsmod
Module  Size  Used byNot tainted
sam9407   116832   0  (autoclean) (unused)
soundcore   3844   0  (autoclean)

but sam9407 shouldn't be there, right?


i still can find an entry in modules.dep: 
/lib/modules/2.4.18/kernel/drivers/sound/sam9407.o:
i thought it will be removed!?

regards
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Re: Videoconferencing software

2003-10-30 Thread Micha Feigin
On Thu, 2003-10-30 at 14:50, John Patrick Dough wrote:
> --- Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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> > 
> > On Wed, Oct 29, 2003 at 12:04:38PM -0800, John
> > Patrick Dough wrote:
> > > Is there a multi-platform videoconferencing
> > > software out there that also works in Linux? I
> > > currently use Eyeball video-chatting program in
> > > Windows, but thy don't have a Linux version. I
> > will be
> > > totally M$ free if I can find such a software for
> > > Linux. Any suggestions will be appreciated.
> > 
> > gnomemeeting?
> > 
> 
> Thanks to all those who responded to my post. I
> installed gnomemeeting last night. It works nicely.
> 

There is also the command line ohphone (both it and gnomemeeting are
compatible with M$ netmeeting).
I never used it but the documentation of ohphone directs to some
programs that come with it that allow for call redirection (on a local
lan for several users behind a NAT firewall) and an answearing machine
that allow to play a prerecorded message and then record the message to
disk.

> Thanks again,
> 
> JP
> 
> 
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Re: The best way to install 'sid'

2003-10-30 Thread Davi Leal
Rob Weir wrote:
> > I mean, autodetecting all the hardware. My new system is AMD, Geforge4,
> > IDE, 3Com, ...  Note: I have been using 'sid' since more than two years
> > ago, 24x7 as server.
>
> You know sid doesn't get special security updates, right?

Yes, I know it. However, packages are updated frequently, so with security 
bugs fixed. Maybe with new bugs due to new source code, but with old bugs 
fixed.  Note that I plan install woody (Debian stable, with security update) 
on the server and use the new host as I+D and desktop (Debian unstable).


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Re: Microsoft good press over Longhorn

2003-10-30 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 11:18:56 -0600, 
Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> On Thursday 30 October 2003 10:41, Tom wrote:
> > Has anybody else been surprised by the amount of good press MS is
> > getting this week over longhorn?  I think people are looking at the
> > Mac OS9 -> OSX total rewrite and projecting wishes for MS to do
> > something as drastic.
> >
> > It's like watching somebody involved in a bad marriage: I'll just
> > stick by him/her, they're bound to change.  It's worth it, if only
> > for the kids.
> >
> > It's always interesting to watch 'em finally wake up.
> 
> the way i was looking at it is longhorn must be horrible if the 
> marketing has to get this much of a running start on reviews before 
> the actual scheduled release(was it 2006?).  if you heard there was a 
> movie/game/tech that had marketing running for 3 years before 
> release, wouldn't that be a sign of major suckage to you too?

..looks like they think they have us simmering in a legal pot thru their
marketing "development cycle", see http://groklaw.net/.   ;-)

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Re: what tool to view CDROM containing TV show?

2003-10-30 Thread Michael Waters
On Thu, Oct 30, 2003, Dan Jacobson wrote:
> Gentlemen, I have been send a CDROM with a television show on it.
> What might be the right tool to view it?  The CDROM's structure is:
> $ tree -s
> |-- [   27]  autorun.inf
> |-- [ 2048]  cdda
> |-- [ 2048]  cdi
> |-- [ 2048]  ext
> |-- [   155648]  mpeg2dmx.ax
> |-- [ 2048]  mpegav
> |   `-- [445904896]  avseq01.dat
> |-- [   129024]  mpgdec.ax
> |-- [36864]  playwnd.exe
> |-- [ 2048]  segment
> `-- [ 2048]  vcd
> |-- [ 2048]  entries.vcd
> |-- [ 2048]  info.vcd
> |-- [ 2048]  lot.vcd
> `-- [ 2048]  psd.vcd


You can use mplayer, xine, vlc to watch vcd/svcd.  For mplayer, don't
mount the CD, just `mplayer -vcd 2` or `mplayer vcd://2`.

Michael


> However even with the right tool, it seems there will be additional
> problems, seen with similar CDs, and both my CD drives:
> $ wc mpegav/avseq01.dat 
> wc: mpegav/avseq01.dat: Input/output error
> 0 0 12288 mpegav/avseq01.dat
> In /var/log/kern.log:
> I/O error: dev 0b:00, sector 2436
> Of course trying mount -o sync doesn't help either.


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Re: 3com

2003-10-30 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 11:52:55 -0500, 
Greg Folkert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> On Thu, 2003-10-30 at 11:01, Monique Y. Herman wrote:
> > On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 at 15:20 GMT, Selim Bolgen penned:
> > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
> > > 
> > > --=_NextPart_000_0021_01C39F0A.22244EC0 Content-Type:
> > > text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding:
> > > quoted-printable
> > > 
> > > Hi=20
> > > 
> > > I am selim
> > > 
> > > I have a problem Could you help me please ?  I have a machine that
> > > is work with sco unix 3.2 v4.2 under the network. = All machines
> > > are sco unix on the network One machine is not connected to the
> > > network. The ethernet card is 3Com = 3C509B that has Rj45 port BNC
> > > port and AUI port. The machine use the BNC = port.  I installed
> > > the ethernet card from the driver diskette. I can ping it to =
> > > itself  ip address but I can not ping any machine on the network.
> > > 
> > > Could you help me please?  Everything seems true but it is not
> > > work properly.
> > > 
> > > Thank you very much in advance
> > > 
> > 
> > You're asking for help with an SCO problem on a debian mailing list?
> > 
> > Okee doke, here's my suggestion: uninstall SCO and install Debian. 
> > Then you can legitemately ask questions here.
> 
> no... No... NO... You have it all wrong. SCO OWN'S Linux (it is a
> derivative work) therefore this is the apropos place to ask questions!
> 

...and we would love to hear all about the new Customer Only Download
support service.  ;-)

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Re: fsck seg. fault Please Help!

2003-10-30 Thread Bruce Sass
On Wed, 29 Oct 2003, matt wrote:

> hi, the other day my woody machine just kinda stopped working...upon a
> reboot i learned via beep-codes that the ram had failed.  i broke out the
> shop-vac and cleaned it out and it started to boot...here's where the
> troubble began...
<...>
> "Unable to andle kernel paging request at virtual address >>blabla hex<<

I've seen this message (or something very similar) when I had a bad
stick of RAM... did you replace your RAM or just vacuum the dust off?

<...>
> but seriously, what other utils can i use instead of fsck to repair the
> drive?

There is a low level tool (can't remember the name and a quick search
through packages.debian.org didn't find it, may also only be in
unstable or testing) but you'd need to know the structure of the fs at
the bits level to use it.


If fsck is able to recover a block (or sequence of blocks) but doesn't
know where they belong it will place them in lost+found (each
partition has one) -- you then need to manually look at the data,
figure out what it is, and cp it to where it should be... not fun, and
really only worth it for stuff you can't just download again or
configure up.


- Bruce


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Re: booting from usb

2003-10-30 Thread Kent West
John Smith wrote:
(Sorry Kev... 
http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2003/debian-user-200310/msg07137.html
)

Hi All,

is it possible to write one of the mutiple smaller .iso's
that are available, to an usb memory stick and boot from it?
Has anybody experience with usb bootable machines (positive/
negative) Any brands that are recommended?
Sincerely,

Jan.




Did it a month or so back with the DSL distro 
(http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/).

I tried it on two machines (a Dell, and a Gateway); one worked, the 
other didn't. Then we reformatted the USB stick with DOS. This time the 
other machine booted, and the first one didn't. My experience with USB 
memory sticks is that the technology isn't quite mature yet . . . .

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Re: Q: Why is linux-wlan-ng not an ordinary part of the kernel?

2003-10-30 Thread Mariano Kamp
Hi Mark,

  thanks for taking the time ...

> >   I believe to have a prism wlan card in my notebook and while digging
> > around what to do I came to the conclusion that I need a module, which is
> > in linx-wlan-ng?!

> no, you don't need linux-wlan-ng for this. The stock orinoco_cs driver
> works just fine in my laptop.
Ok, I get it working without encryption, but not with encryption. Did you get 
this working with WEP128?

Btw. If some day a 2.4.22 module will come out, how would I tell my system not 
use the pcmci stuff anymore, but the wlan-ng?

> There is no kernel citizenship hierarchy. Install the modules and they
> will work.
Unfortunately there is no module for 2.4.22 ;-(

Cheers,
Mariano


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How to set up multilingual OO including arabic?

2003-10-30 Thread Johannes Graumann
Hello,

I asked this before on the openoffice mailing list and those people told
me to go asking in a debian specific forum, which let me to repost to
the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list, but that seems to be mainly
a developers list ... so here it is again:

I am running Sid and have installed OO 1.1.0-1, including several
language support packages for my polyglot wife. Now I am at a
loss of how to make ooffice work such that she can choose between
Arabic, Spanish, Turkish, French, German or English at startup.

For arabic I did:
- dpkg-reconfigure locales 
  --> generating ar_LB.ISO-8859-6 and ar_LB.UTF-8
- apt-get install xfonts-intl-arabic
- LANG=ar_LB openoffice (same problem with LANG=ar_LB.ISO-8859-6 or
LANG=ar_LB.UTF-8)

But this leads to: I18N: X Window System doesn't support locale "ar_LB"

What am I missing?

She is threatening to revert to evil empire software! Help!

Joh


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Re: Too Slow - what'd I break?

2003-10-30 Thread Jan Willem Stumpel
Interesting.. the boot log you posted contains a record of the
ASCII art twirly-whirrly thing, made of / , -, | , \, and
backspace characters, which is displayed at boot time during
time-consuming operations.

On my Sid system this causes an instant *crash* of all varieties
of mozilla which I have at the moment: mozilla-browser-snapshot,
mozilla-mailnews-snapshot, mozilla-thunderbird, and
mozilla-firebird (reading the message in the mail-list archive and
through the gmane newsgroup).

Mozilla 1.4 on Win98 does not crash; there, the twirly-whirrly is
displayed as something like |X/X-X\X|X/X-X\X|X/X (with X being an
empty square). MS-IE on NT (which I tried at my office) also does
not crash.

A mozilla bug? But it is OK with mozilla in MS Windows. What kind
 of bug is this?

Regards, Jan



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Re: Getting HP to support Debian

2003-10-30 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 00:55:41 +, 
Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> On Wed, Oct 29, 2003 at 10:25:26PM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> > ..you say HP support's Debian Linux.  Both may well be true, the
> > sheer size of HP suggest one of these support schemes may be
> > un-autorized by HP's corporate board.  They might wanna know, and,
> > trust needs a minimum of spine, and we all know long term business
> > needs trust.
> 
> They employ many people to develop Debian GNU/Linux and have donated
> quite a bit of our core infrastructure. Their Linux Chief Technology
> Officer is a former Debian Project Leader and a prolific Debian
> developer. I believe that HP employ more Debian developers than any
> other company in the world. If you think all that's unauthorized by
> their board, you're delusional, pure and simple.

..now being better informed, I realize chances are very good this, 
and the SCO sponsorship, both are intentionally authorized.

> > ..my conspiracy is simple:  I say boycott HP until they ditch SCO.
> > I feel our (Debian's) spine more worth than whatever money they 
> > are peeing down our back's.
> 
> Please moderate your rants until you're better informed.

..I have.  I stand firm on my suggestion that we should 
boycott HP until they ditch SCO sponsorship.  

..FWIW, it appears SCO is also in criminal violation with copyright 
law in both 2 cases, groklaw.net for details on their "Customer Only" 
DL policy.  I would be pleased to hear we have Ms Fiorina with us 
on copyright and piracy, and rather less so, if I learn we do not.

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AW: Configure PnP Card before Kernel loads modules

2003-10-30 Thread abo
>If instead you used update-modules to add a line
>alias sound-slot-0 modulename
>to /etc/modules.conf, the driver will be loaded when needed.

thanks andreas & andre,

there's something wrong..

i did the following (sam9407 is the module name...):

i changend /etc/modutils/sam9407, so it just contains:
alias sound-slot-0 sam9407

then I did "update-modules", so my modules.conf was updated with the line
upove.
after that I invoked "depmod -a" to update my modules.dep

after a reboot I get with lsmod:
homer:~# lsmod
Module  Size  Used byNot tainted
sam9407   116832   0  (autoclean) (unused)
soundcore   3844   0  (autoclean)

but sam9407 shouldn't be there, right?


i still can find an entry in modules.dep: 
/lib/modules/2.4.18/kernel/drivers/sound/sam9407.o:
i thought it will be removed!?

regards
andreas



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Re: Simple little basic config questions

2003-10-30 Thread Johannes Zarl
>
> I read your notes with interest, and indeed you helped clarify
> things. Only now, I've got somehow to undo the xhost command I issued
> before.
>

``xhost -'' does the job.

You all are right concerning the security-issues with xhost. I wasn't aware 
how big the issues *really* are. xhost didn't do me any harm though (well, 
I don't have any login-shell users beside me and I always wase careful to 
undo the xhost +local when I was finished doing whatever I did). I think 
I'll fight the bad habit and use things like sux/sudo/kdesudo/etc. from 
now on..

thanks,
  Johannes

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Re: Q: Why is linux-wlan-ng not an ordinary part of the kernel?

2003-10-30 Thread David Z Maze
Mariano Kamp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I believe to have a prism wlan card in my notebook and while digging
> around what to do I came to the conclusion that I need a module,
> which is in linx-wlan-ng?!

Not necessarily.  I believe there are also working drivers in the
kernel, and in the separate PCMCIA driver pack; look for "Hermes"
driver support.

> It is a kernel module and part of the official debian distro, isn't
> it? My expectation had been to see this turn up in menuconfig, but
> it doesn't. There also isn't a precompiled module for the current
> 2.4.22 kernel in the repository.

"Part of the distribution" doesn't necessarily mean "part of the
official kernel source".  For linux-wlan-ng, you actually need to get
the source to the package, put it in /usr/src/modules, and use
kernel-package to build the modules (if you're building your own
kernel, which it sounds like you are).  See
http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/system/kernel-pkg.html for more
information on building kernels "the Debian way".

If you're using Debian stable, there isn't anything official for
kernel 2.4.22 at all.  If you're using unstable, it looks like the
maintainer hasn't built modules for that kernel yet; you might look
through the list of relevant bugs in the BTS and file a wishlist bug
if there isn't one yet.

> Is there any particular reason for this or is it just, that the
> module somehow is prevented from becoming a *first class* citizen of
> the kernel?

"The upstream maintainer hasn't convinced the upstream kernel
maintainers to include it."

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Re: Has SWEN finally died?

2003-10-30 Thread Marc Shapiro
On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:39:05 -0700 Paul E Condon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

I'm getting one every 2 or 3 hrs. Down from ~5/hr three days ago. Theory: 
If you don't post to this list for many days, the infected machines
which have your email address in their lists of targets gradually get 
disinfected, and your incoming swen gradually goes to zero. But, if you 
post, you run the
risk of a new wave of swen.
That is why all of my posting is now done through this hotmail account, 
which I use for nothing else.  So far, I have received no spam of any sort 
through it.  It is not ending up in the bulk mail box.  It simply is not 
coming in at all.  Either no one (including SWEN) has found the box yet, or 
hotmail is actually doing a proper job of filtering he mess.  Could 
MicroSquish actually have done something right, for a change?

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Re: [OT] deleting pictures from digital camera via computer?

2003-10-30 Thread J. Bruce Fields
On Thu, Oct 30, 2003 at 12:39:55PM -0500, Kevin B. McCarty wrote:
> Here is my question.  Once the camera is mounted (in my case, I put it at 
> /mnt/camera), I can see the pictures here: /mnt/camera/dcim/100nikon/*.jpg
> If I want to delete them, can I just do "rm -f /mnt/camera/dcim/100nikon/*.jpg"
> or would this cause an internal database of the camera to get out of sync 
> with the pictures actually present?

I've done this before with a different camera (actually a smartmedia
card reader) mounted using usb-storage.  It didn't seem to cause any
problems.  Obviously you want to make sure you unmount before unplugging
the usb cable.  If worst comes to worst, doesn't your camera have a way
to reformat its internal memory and restart from scratch?

--Bruce Fields

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Re: Simple little basic config questions

2003-10-30 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 at 15:52 GMT, Kent West penned:
> I echo Colin's thought. Forget about "su" and use "sudo". It takes an
> extra 5 keystrokes per command, but it "just works", and in my opinion
> is better than forgetting you're root and doing something you don't
> want to do.
> 
> apt-get install sudo visudo, add yourself a line similar to what's
> already there sudo command_to_be_run_as_root
> 

People keep talking about sudo like it's the cat's meow, and maybe for a
single-user system it is.  But sudo documentation very explicitly warns
that, if you're not careful about what you allow, you could accidentally
allow access to far more than you expected.

Anyway, go ahead and use sudo, but be aware of the possible security
issues.

(Of course, it's by definition safer than just giving someone the root
password.  I'm just saying, don't think it solves 100% of security
issues.)

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Re: Too Slow - what'd I break?

2003-10-30 Thread Daniel L. Miller
Roberto Sanchez wrote:
Daniel L. Miller wrote:

Howdy all.

I've converted a Pentium II-350mhz w/ 128M RAM workstation from 
Windoze to Debian.  Unfortunately, it seems that many operations are 
far slower - especially disk access.  I've pasted the output of 
 below.  I do see some error messages regarding VFS mounts.  I 
also see errors regarding  mounts during bootup that are not 
shown in the  output - I'd also appreciate knowing what these 
bootup messages are indicating and how to fix 'em.

This is using the latest unstable kernel-image-2.4-686 package, as 
well as the lowlatency and preempt patches.


Have you enabled DMA on your disk?

Use hdparm (install via apt-get if you don't have it) and try
something like:
hdparm -c1 -m16 -d1 -u1 /dev/hda

However, carefully read the documentation.  I believe that in most
cases DMA is disabled by default becuase some drive/chipset combos
are buggy, which can cause severe corruption of data if DMA is
enabled.
-Roberto
Using hdparm in "get" mode, I found my settings were:
c0 m32 d1 u0
I set c1 and u1 - and I have done this step before.  I've tried the -k 
flag - but it doesn't remember these settings between reboots.  Or am I 
using this wrong, and I need to execute hdparm at each boot?

I don't really see a difference after these settings - is there 
something else I need to do?  And should drop from m32 to m16?

Daniel

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Re: Microsoft good press over Longhorn

2003-10-30 Thread Kevin MacNeil
On Thu, Oct 30, 2003 at 11:18:56AM -0600, Ray wrote:
> On Thursday 30 October 2003 10:41, Tom wrote:
> >
> > It's always interesting to watch 'em finally wake up.
> 
> the way i was looking at it is longhorn must be horrible if the
> marketing has to get this much of a running start on reviews before
> the actual scheduled release(was it 2006?).  if you heard there was a
> movie/game/tech that had marketing running for 3 years before release,
> wouldn't that be a sign of major suckage to you too?

Microsoft's software has always sucked, so I can't imagine they're
losing too much sleep over quality or security, their Trusted
Computing(tm) initiative notwithstanding.

Personally, I think Trusted Computing is intended for Microsoft, the
various large copyright holders, and three-letter
government agencies, not those poor souls stuck with
Windows. What's taking all the time is getting all the hardware vendors
onboard the shiny new Palladium train, as well as twisting the arms of
those who resist. This all takes time and money.

Like many of us I think free software is a better deal for everyone
except for proprietary software vendors like Microsoft. As more people
come to this inevitable conclusion Microsoft will most likely resort to
the same kind of illegal anti-competitive tactics that has gotten it in
trouble before.

Should be an interesting ride anyway. Sure hope they lose though.


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Re: Microsoft good press over Longhorn

2003-10-30 Thread Tom
On Thu, Oct 30, 2003 at 05:38:42PM +, Ken Gilmour wrote:
> Ive tried the alpha version and it was so bad, on 512MB of RAM, a 60GB empty HDD 
> (Apart form the OS of course) and 1.5GHz processor it would take about 6 minutes to 
> open the start menu or a window such as "My Computer" using longhorn milestone 5 - 
> didnt look too shabby though - but then, neither do girls with STDs!!
> 
> Replying to the message sent by Ray  on Thu, 30 Oct 2003 11:18:56 -0600, received at 
> 17:35:18 on 30/10/2003. Ray wrote:
> >On Thursday 30 October 2003 10:41, Tom wrote:
> >> It's like watching somebody involved in a bad marriage: I'll just
> >> stick by him/her, they're bound to change.  It's worth it, if only
> >> for the kids.
> >>
> >> It's always interesting to watch 'em finally wake up.
> >
> >the way i was looking at it is longhorn must be horrible if the
> >marketing has to get this much of a running start on reviews before
> >the actual scheduled release(was it 2006?).  if you heard there was a
> >movie/game/tech that had marketing running for 3 years before
> >release, wouldn't that be a sign of major suckage to you too?

I guess you have to have gone through a truly unhealthy relationship to 
understand my point of view.  Sometimes your whole world can be 
something that's bad for you :-)


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