Re: My email is rejected by some sites
Incoming from Joerg Rossdeutscher: Censorship? Nonsense. Blah, blah, blah. *plonk* -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*) http://www.spots.ab.ca/~keeling - - -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Next On The Checklist - VNC
On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 15:04:23 -0800, Scarletdown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 14 Dec 2003 at 11:28, Deryk Barker wrote: Thus spake Scarletdown ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): You need to run vncserver as that user. 2: The VNC session always gives me the KDE desktop. However, I would like to run other desktops as well (GNOME in particular). Is there any way to state which Window Manager gets used each VNC session? Checkout the xstartup script in the .vnc directory 3: My VNC desktop always comes up at 640x480. How do I get it to come up at a higher resolution? When logged into an X-Session directly at the console, I have 800x600 as my resolution, and my Windows system is set for 1024x768. vncserver -geometry 1024x768 Okay now. So far, I've managed to finally get a non-root KDE desktop set to 800x600 - 32 Bit depth. I did indeed have to log in as a normal user and then start the vncserver with vncserver geometry 800x600 depth 32 So I am making some headway on this project. Now, here is what I am ultimately shooting for. 1: Have vncserver load automatically at boot time with the above parameters. (800x600 is plenty suitable for my needs here) I do not want to have to ssh in to the system first to start the server ..you could do this the same way X is started, check in /etc/init.d/ . ..but, I don't understand why you prefer vnc over X? Or Xnest? If security is an issue like on internet, wrap it in a ssh pipe, works for vnc too, and X sessions usually use port 6000-n-up, and I believe this is useable even from M$IE, or is there a full M$ boycott on X? ..note that X is deaf in Debian, Knoppix etc, this is set with the nolisten option, you _may_ wanna comment out those, if you do, watch out on your firewalling. ;-) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;-) ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ldap based /etc/passwd with md5 vs crypt
The sarge setup supports selecting crypt for passwds in ldap. How can MD5 be used?mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Orphaning of Firebird RDBMS
W licie z nie, 14-12-2003, godz. 07:21, John L. Fjellstad pisze: Hi Grzegorz, I read that you might not have time to work on the maintance of the firebird package. I was wondering what kind of work is involved in maintaining a debian package? There's nothing particularry unachievable. You don't have to be a DD but you should be willing to become one. For more informations see 1. http://www.debian.org/devel/join/ 2. http://www.debian.org/devel/join/newmaint It takes a longer while to become a DD. Only DDs can upload packages. But any DD can (theoretically) sponsor your uploads before you become a DD. I can do this too (I am even willing to do this :) Then in fact maintaining a package involves (no special order): 1. Making sure that the package has no (serious) bugs: a) by testing it yourself b) by solving bugs reported in BTS (http://bugs.debian.org/firebird) c) making sure the package abides ex. Debian Policy d) sometimes discussing with others best approaches in packaging 2. Uploading new versions when you're convinced they're ready for masses 3. Taking general care of package and its users (ex. answering some random questions/inquiries from users or other developers or upstream) 4. Being nice, informative and helpful to upstream developers (ex. when you've got a bug that's not debian-specific and you don't know how to handle it yourself - you need to forward it upstream) 5. Paying attention to software licensing, DFSG compatibility etc. [1] 6. Improving your package and yourself beyond what's _required_ :-) You're not alone with these tasks. Ex. altough you're not required to subscribe to debian-devel mailing list - you'll find there a lot of clues about usual problems, important changes under way that may affect your package etc. You can ask on debian-newmaint mailing list (to which you definitely should subscribe) As you'll learn during the New Maintainer process - there are other means of getting help and informations. In summary: you need to want persistently :) All the rest can be derived. And all in all - it's a lot of fun. A lot of people to meet. A lot of new things to learn. And a lot of satisfaction - when you have it done. Cheers, Grzegorz B. Prokopski PS: I am willing to discuss these things in a more detailed way with a person seriously interested in maintaining FB. I'll be glad to help such a person with my knowledge. I do have some time resources to do it. [1] http://www.debian.org/social_contract#guidelines Some other links: http://lists.debian.org/debian-newmaint/ http://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/developers-reference/ http://www.internatif.org/bortzmeyer/debian/sponsor/ -- Grzegorz B. Prokopski [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian GNU/Linux http://www.debian.org SableVM - LGPLed JVM http://www.sablevm.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Next On The Checklist - VNC
Nunya wrote: On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 11:29:59AM -0800, Deryk Barker wrote: True, but there is no preservation of the session. The original developers of VNC (Olivetti UK) wanted this feature so that people could disconnect their viewer at work, go home, reconnect and be exactly where they had left off. Question: there is no way to disconnect an X Server from an X Client, and later attach to a different one later? that'd be a neat trick There is an extension to the X11 protocol, I forget the exact name, that allows just that. You can move the client app from one X server to another. -Roberto pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: aic7xxx kernel freeze...
On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 23:44:18 +0100, Ignacio Más Ivars [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi all! I have a problem that is driving me crazy. I am trying install a custom version of the 2.4.22 kernel ..why not your custom 2.4.23? It _may_ have been fixed in there. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;-) ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Copy all desktop settings for a new user
on Sat, Dec 13, 2003 at 10:41:34AM +0100, Philipp Schulte ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Hello,
lets say I have a few users (not all of them with prior GNU/Linux
^
'
experiance) and I want to setup a common profile for their accounts.
By profile I mean things like desktop-icons, desktop-theme, menues,
MUA-settings, browser-settings, printer ...
The users will most likely either use KDE or Gnome and applications
like Firebird, Thunderbird and OpenOffice.
I would like to create a role-account, configure everything for this
account and copy all those settings everytime a new user is created.
I know about /etc/skel but I am not sure if it's possible to use this
because some paths are absolute in configuration files.
What files, and what paths?
I presume you're looking for a turnkey solution of some sort. I'm not
aware of one, though I suspect that some (much?) of the current
corporate interest in GNOME and KDE is just this capability: rolling
out a standard profile. To what extent have you researched this? Your
initial post and followups don't indicate this.
I'd look myself at a divide and conquer approach:
- What is my standard configuration? Presumably you've got a standard
desktop config in mind.
- What files _don't_ have personalizations in them? These are
candidates for /etc/skel or some similar default configuration
installation library or tool.
- What files have personalizations in them? These need addressing
either by:
- Allowing installation with user-specific configurations, or
- Pointing personalizations at a system- (or group-) specific
repository of configurations. Some files may not be amenable such
configuration.
As for _how_ to provide for user-specific configurations, what you're
essentially asking for is a templating system. I suspect that most of
the tools you're looking at already have existing templates. Some of
these, if well-designed, may already be configured to look at /usr/local
paths as well as /usr, for configurations, and take /usr/local by
preference.
Otherwise, one simple proxy is to substitute shell variables where
necessary for current user. If your installation script runs as the
user in question, simply using ${USER} within the context of a shell
script or here document may be sufficient.
Peace.
--
Karsten M. Self [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://kmself.home.netcom.com/
What Part of Gestalt don't you understand?
First they came for the Communists, and I didn't speak up, because I
wasn't a Communist. Then they came for the Jews, and I didn't speak
up, because I wasn't a Jew. Then they came for the Catholics, and I
didn't speak up, because I was a Protestant. Then they came for me,
and by that time there was no one left to speak up for me.
-- Rev. Martin Niemoller, 1945
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Re: Next On The Checklist - VNC
On 15 Dec 2003 at 1:28, Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 15:04:23 -0800, Scarletdown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: So I am making some headway on this project. Now, here is what I am ultimately shooting for. 1: Have vncserver load automatically at boot time with the above parameters. (800x600 is plenty suitable for my needs here) I do not want to have to ssh in to the system first to start the server ..you could do this the same way X is started, check in /etc/init.d/ . Okay. What should I be looking for there? Here is what is in /etc/init.d/ README dns-clean inetd mountall.sh rc ssh apache exim inetd.real mountnfs.sh rcS sysklogd atd fetchmail iptables networking reboot umountfs bind9 gdm kdm nfs-common rmnologin umountnfs.sh bootmisc.sh gpm keymap.sh nfs-kernel-server samba urandom checkfs.sh halt klogd nviboot sendmail xdm checkroot.sh hostname.sh lpd omniorb-nameserver sendsigs xfs console-screen.sh hwclock.sh lwresd portmap setserial xinetd cron hwclockfirst.sh makedev ppp single devpts.sh ifupdown modutils procps.sh skeleton Which of those files do I need to edit? Or do I need to create a new file for vnc there? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ICMP redirect
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I would like to ask about the icmp messasages sending in linux 2.4.x. I have two subnets: 192.168.0.0/24 and 192.168.1.0/24 on the same ethernet segment. There is a gateway in each subnet (192.168.0.1 and 192.168.1.1). Clients use netmask 255.255.255.0. Routers have their own default routes (through DSL) and additional route to neighboring subnet: For example, router on 192.168.0.1: ip route add 192.168.1.1 dev eth0 ip route add 192.168.1.0/24 via 192.168.1.1 The problem is that client get redirect only for 1 hop: for instance 192.168.0.x client accesses 192.168.1.x, receives redirect from 192.168.0.1 that advises to send through 192.168.1.1. Unless I'm confused about what ip(8) does, there shouldn't be ICMP redirects issued at all. Reading RFC 777 makes it clear that, in this case, a redirect is inappropriate: a message from 192.168.0.17 to 192.168.1.34 goes to 192.168.0.1 first, which forwards it on to 192.168.1.1, but that's not on 192.168.0.0/24 and so the source and next hop aren't on the same network. How can I configure routers so the clients could send traffic directly to each other? You don't. You could configure the clients so that they know they're on both networks, though; it's probably easier if you gave each machine an IP address on both networks so things don't get confused. (Which leads to the question of why you're doing this. I have something similar set up at home, but one network gets NATted and the other goes through an IP-over-IP tunnel. My desktop machine has addresses on both networks; my laptop only on the tunnelled network, the wireless access point only on the NAT network. I can ping the WAP's IP address just fine, with everything going through the router, but that's not a big deal.) Is it necessary to add additional address'es to gateway so they would have their own addresses for each subnet? Probably wouldn't hurt; I'd guess it is necessary but can't say for sure. Or you could do all of this with just one gateway, still on both networks. -- David Maze [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://people.debian.org/~dmaze/ Theoretical politics is interesting. Politicking should be illegal. -- Abra Mitchell -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT:Message to all computer vendors
On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 17:26:49 -0500, alex wrote: [snip] we tell which ones? My guess is that there just hasn't been any incentive for manufacturers to 'bother' with even trying them on Linux. Could it be that they don't have any Linux knowledgeable people working for them?. If manufacturers were targeted with mass mailing, I'll bet you'll see Wanted, Linux geeks' in their hiring notices. Who knows, perhaps if the machines available today were tested, there might be many that are fully compatible with Linux. There's no incentive to do this. If I were a PC manufacturer, I would answer Linux queries, I have no reason to believe that any of my PCs are not compatible with at least one current release of Linux, but I can't guarantee that. I'll ship it to you with Windows XP/2003/whatever installed, and what you do with it after you get it is up to you. We don't currently provide Linux drivers, and we don't provide Linux technical support. Why would I do this? Because more than 99% of my home PC market, and just about 100% of my corporate business (and that's where the big bucks are) is Windows. I am pressured on price anyway, because I am manufacturing a commodity, and I'm not about to significantly increase my technical support and call center costs in order (those costs considered) to make a loss on selling a relatively miniscule number of Linux PCs. If, and it's still a big if, demand increases substantially for Linux desktop PCs, then I will be inclined to reconsider, as I am already doing with my medium-size corporate server business. And that is, unfortunately, the way it is in a free market economy. In any case, it's not hard to determine beforehand whether a PC will run Linux. Or to build your own with Linux in mind. -- paul Do the little things (Gwnewch y pethau bychain) St. David (Dewi Sant) of Wales, last sermon, Sunday 27th February 589 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: yet another NVIDIA problem (4496)
On Saturday 13 December 2003 02:05, Paul Johnson wrote: That is the crap driver I'm talking about. BTW, you can get it easier with apt...the nvidia-kernel and nvidia-glx packages are it. snip Interesting. I had lots of problems with the two debian packages, but have had rock solid performance from the downloaded drivers from Nvidia. This backward than what is usual in the Debian community. -- Stewart... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Next On The Checklist - VNC
On Sunday December 14 at 07:33pm Roberto Sanchez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nunya wrote: On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 11:29:59AM -0800, Deryk Barker wrote: True, but there is no preservation of the session. The original developers of VNC (Olivetti UK) wanted this feature so that people could disconnect their viewer at work, go home, reconnect and be exactly where they had left off. Question: there is no way to disconnect an X Server from an X Client, and later attach to a different one later? that'd be a neat trick There is an extension to the X11 protocol, I forget the exact name, that allows just that. You can move the client app from one X server to another. xmove and teleport are packages designed to do that sort of thing, but I haven't had any luck getting either one working. -- -johann koenig Now Playing: The Allman Brothers Band - Sailin' 'Cross The Devil's Sea : An Evening With The Allman Brothers Band (2nd Set) Today is Pungenday, the 56th day of The Aftermath in the YOLD 3169 My public pgp key: http://mental-graffiti.com/pgp/johannkoenig.pgp pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: My email is rejected by some sites
On Sunday 14 December 2003 2:37 pm, Joerg Rossdeutscher wrote: Am So, den 14.12.2003 schrieb Al Davis um 17:21: On Thursday 11 December 2003 03:56 pm, Joerg Rossdeutscher wrote: Yes, many ISPs do that, and it's a good thing. We all would drown in spam if they accepted mail from everywhere. There is absolutely nothing you can do except to use your providers mailserver. On Saturday 13 December 2003 04:46 am, Joerg Rossdeutscher wrote: It is a good thing. What kind of mail comes from dynamic IPs? In 99% it will be spam from open relays, misconfigured adresses ([EMAIL PROTECTED]),... .. Not everyone should use a private mailserver. Hobbyists and Freaks should not run such service, it's a job for professionals, and those have a static ip. I'm really tired of writing a lot in mailinglists an get lots of You mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] could not be delivered... So you believe the ISP should censor our mail, or at least be given the opportunity? You believe that Hobbyists and Freaks especially need for their mail to be subject to screening, but corporations don't? Censorship? Nonsense. Running and maintaining a mailserver is a difficult job. Incorrect configured mailservers can cause a lot of problems to others. So everyone should be forced to use a providers machine as smarthost. Running and maintaing software is a difficult job. Incorrect configured software can cause a lot of problems to others. So everyone should be forced to use a providers machine to run software. If your provider filters mail, adds advertisings etc... blame the provider. Choose another. We don't talk about modifying content. If your provider filters your software use, adds advertising etc... blame the provider. Choose another. We don't talk about modifying content. Examples: My provider allows just some thousand mails to be sent (sent! Not received!). This is a lot more I can write, but whenever I cause a mailloop it will not be endless. Examples: My provide allows just some thousand programs to be used (used! Not looked at!). This is a lot more I can use, but whenever I cause a crash it will not be fatal. Whenever I misconfigure my MUA and send mail with an invalid Reply-To ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) my provider will not deliver the mail. Whenever I misconfigure my preferences and use an invalid Menu command (File-Save As...) my provider will not save the file. If I misconfigure my machine as an open relay and someone sends lots of spammails from my machine, a lot of providers will not accept that mail. And if I configured it to use my providers smarthost after some thousand mails my providers stops it, see example 1. If I misconfigure my machine with users having no passwords and someone runs lots of annoying programs from my machine, a lot of providers will not accept those packets. Local mailservers are childish, dangerous and nonsense. Local software is childish, dangerous and nonsense. -- Wesley J. Landaker - [EMAIL PROTECTED] OpenPGP FP: 4135 2A3B 4726 ACC5 9094 0097 F0A9 8A4C 4CD6 E3D2 pgp0.pgp Description: signature
gethostbyname() always does DNS lookup when DISPLAY is set
hello, i'm facing a really weird problem on my machine. when doing telnet localhost my machine always does a DNS lookup even if - host.conf: order hosts, bind - nsswitch.conf: hosts: files dns - localhost is defined in /etc/hosts now, if i do 'unset DISPLAY' this behaviour goes magically away ... - DISPLAY not set - network not touched - DISPLAY=:displaynum - dns lookup made - DISPLAY=host:displaynum - network not touched this looks extremely weird to me: dns does not have anything to do with X, does it ? also, on the debian machine of a friend i cannot trigger this behaviour, even with identical /etc/hosts, /etc/host.conf, /etc/ resolv.conf, /etc/nsswitch.conf this is very annoying too, since when the network is down, starting KDE/gnome apps takes ages (it takes as long as a DNS timeout) another very weird thing: on my system, by default, libraries come from /lib/tls, on my friends system they come from /lib. ld.so.conf is identical. moving away /lib/tls has no effect on the dns lookup behaviour. Someone knows what could be the origin of this problem ? and somebody knows what /lib/tls is for ? thanks, greetings, frank -- Frank Dekervel Mechelsestraat 88 3000 Leuven [EMAIL PROTECTED], (nieuw) 0473/94.34.21 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to know correct hardware options for compiling 2.4.23 kernel
On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 10:49:29AM -0600, J N wrote: ... I'm noticing that I appear to need to know more specific technical information than I currently have access to for my laptop: Dell Latitude CPI-A 366XT. Can anyone point me to a FAQ that would tell me what kind of chipsets were in the machine (such as FLASH chipsets), or the type of IDE controller that was in use, etc? I've read the online help, which would be most helpful if I knew what was under the hood... http://www.dell.com ??? They still had my old 486 on site... Kenward -- In a completely rational society, the best of us would aspire to be _teachers_ and the rest of us would have to settle for something less, because passing civilization along from one generation to the next ought to be the highest honor and the highest responsibility anyone could have. - Lee Iacocca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PDF spec (Was: Re: ooh! debian jewelry)
On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 at 15:54 GMT, J.H.M. Dassen (Ray) penned: On Sat, Dec 13, 2003 at 14:08:21 -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: Hrm, I could have sworn that PDF was a spec published by Adobe and freely usable, but google seems to disagree. Google isn't quite the all-seeing eye yet. http://partners.adobe.com/asn/tech/pdf/specifications.jsp has e.g. the PDF Reference, Fourth Edition, Version 1.5 (1172 pages). xpdf seems to handle the Acrobat 5 version of it just fine. HTH, Ray Thank you! -- monique -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Applications are too big
On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 at 08:02 GMT, Mark Healey penned: On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 00:31:03 -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: Are you running X directly from x/k/gdm? gdm, for some reason the install procedure didn't have a console login option. I'd like to hace a console login screen. There have been a number of threads here recently on how to disable g/k/xdm ... they were all pretty explicit. I'd recommend checking back over the last week or two's posts. Anyway, if you do disable the display manager, you can instead run startx. It's pretty verbose as it's starting up, so it may give you some hints. - Please leave this. It is a filter term. ferulebezel - Mark Healey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Don't bothor CCing or emailing this address. Since spammers seem to be harvesting this list anything that doesn't come from the list server is assumed to be spam and deleted. ASUS A87V8X mobo w AMD Athalon Broadcom 4401 onboard nic with static IP Address ATI All-In-Wonder 9700 Video card. Sampo Alphascan 17mx monitor using the vesa module -- monique -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Kernel options - how to determine which are needed?
Arnt Karlsen wrote: ..shorewall is neat. Using the webmin gui module? Nope, editing the configuration file by hand. ..if you're a iptables newbie fresh from the ipchains bronze age world, just make sure you understand the subtle new meanings to a few things in iptables. ;-) Heh, I never got into either of them more than the basics needed to get IPMASQing up and running. I let shorewall take care of the details and learn how to get the basic stuff I need done with it's syntax. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your PGP Key: 8B6E99C5 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+- pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Earthlink and Swen
Kevin Mark wrote: more viruses, more cpu time, more MONEY. Its always money in the end. snip Well, not always money. Money is the final factor, to be sure, but I can say with a resonable level of assurance that there are other factors. Factors such as space and power. Granted one can get more space and power by forking out more money but no matter how much money one throws at those problems it doesn't drop the amount of time it would take to bring up an accepteble space for computers with a reliable source of power and cooling. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your PGP Key: 8B6E99C5 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+- pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: software raid
On Sat, Dec 13, 2003 at 07:43:31PM -0800, Alvin Oga wrote: hi ya lucas On Sat, 13 Dec 2003, Lucas Albers wrote: I've been trying to get debian stable working with software raid using various documentation. collection of um http://www.1U-Raid5.net If you can think of any good software raid (running on your root partition) documentation for debian STABLE please send it over. good sw raid is already part of the linux kernel.. you dont need anything else ... other than to turn on the raid options in the kernel and create your raid config files I've been wondering about this. We have a server with a Asus A7N8X mobo, which has the Silicon Image SATA RAID. I couldn't get the kernel module to recognise the HW RAID array when it was set up in the BIOS. I finished up only using one drive until we got to the bottom of the problem (clue: we never did). Using Linux SW RAID, can I create a RAID-1 array using my existing single partition ext3 disk and one other without losing all my existing data? A -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Next On The Checklist - VNC
On Sat, Dec 13, 2003 at 06:59:58PM -0800, Scarletdown wrote: Okay, I just installed the VNC package and successfully accessed a KDE desktop from my Windows-98 system. And I must say, I became instantly enamored with VNC. However, I now have a bunch of questions. snip I suggest you peruse the documentation in /usr/share/doc/vncserver. Especially the README.inetd file. A -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
can't logout on consoles
Hello - Recently I have experienced that when logging out on a console the message logout appears and the session hangs there. The screen accepts keypresses and I can CTRL+ALT+F7 back to an XSession. The logout just seems to hang indefinitely. Happens on exit or logout for all users, including root. I don't recall this being related to any upgrade. Anyone have a clue for me? TIA Shawn Lamson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PDF spec (Was: Re: ooh! debian jewelry)
Monique posts: I could have sworn that PDF was a spec published by Adobe and freely usable, but google seems to disagree Should the PDF format be used and recommended by governments? The Govt. of India is calling for opinions and this link is interesting http://gnu.org.in/philosophy/mitrules.html -- ragOO http://puggy.symonds.net/~fsug-kochi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Easing the load.
On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 04:36:05AM +0800, David Palmer. wrote: On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 19:35:58 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [huge snippage] very disappointed to see anyone receive those as a response to a genuine query on this list. while independent inititiative is well recommended, the latent discouragement in that response is not reflective of this community and would do it no positive service whatsoever. ben Thank you, Ben, but that is actually an incorrect attribution that you are referring to. These three points were all the recourse that Paul Morgan was prepared to concede to a Debian sys. admin in trouble. The point I made in the original post was in accord with your statement with the endorsement of the community factor. Regards, David. apologies for the false attribution. the poster i was responding to didn't take care to properly quote. ben -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: My Debian box can't connect Internet
Hi Paul, Thanks for your advice. On Mon, 2003-12-15 at 04:13, Paul Johnson wrote: On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 11:54:22PM +0800, Stephen Liu wrote: # cat /etc/resolv.conf search domain.com\000 nameserver 192.168.2.1 Ah ha! You might try adding a nameserver on the outside or make sure that nameserver is able to get a connection to the outside world. That is the original 'resolv.conf' file. I have not touched it and also I was not allowed to alter this file even as ROOT. This was very strange to me. The said file can be opened with a Text editor, 'nano' or 'kedit', and editing also allowed. 'Saving changes' to the file was not allowed. You can save the file but it only retains its original content. If no solution found then I think I have to make another clean installation of Debian 3.0 again. I will use net-installation. I am connecting to broadband of 3MB bandwidth. If it is not installing from source code, like Gentoo 1.4, the download time won't be long and I can have the maybe uptodate packages. B.R. Stephen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: scott wiseman is pissing me off
On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 09:10:54AM -0800, Scott M. Wiseman wrote: To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RESUME - Client Development Specialist for Technology firms IF this resume reaches you in Error. Please forward to your Human Resources Department Resume Scott Wiseman 13428 Maxella Ave Ste 207 Marina Del Rey, CA 90292 310-967-4593 this wanker has surely proved his incompetence to such a degree that it seems entirely justified to feed the web with sufficient evidence to ensure that any employer who values intelligence rejects his application. as for the others, please hire this fool so that the rest of us can be spared witnessing his unwitting self-immolation. ben -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: can't logout on consoles
On Sun, December 14 at 10:44 PM EST Shawn Lamson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello - Recently I have experienced that when logging out on a console the message logout appears and the session hangs there. The screen accepts keypresses and I can CTRL+ALT+F7 back to an XSession. The logout just seems to hang indefinitely. Happens on exit or logout for all users, including root. I don't recall this being related to any upgrade. Anyone have a clue for me? replying to my own post. Still need help but at least I realized that the problem is actually with the new getty (i think)... after the logout/exit hangs for a while I will get a ID 5: getty respawning too fast stopping for 5 minutes type of message. If I mark the tty in question off in inittab and run telinit q as root, then make it respawn again and rerun telinit q - I often, but not always, get a login back. I get the stall no matter what user logs out, but it is much worse on the console I use to startx.. I background X and logout, this is the one that hangs irreparably. Still need help, Shawn Lamson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
hard drive recognition for 2.4.16 kernels
I've been trying without success to run 2.4.22, 2.4.23, or 2.6.0 kernels on Sarge. The problem seems to be that they see my hard drive as hda rather than as hde. 2.4.16 (and Windows XP) sees the drive as hde, as do several versions of tomsrtbt and Knoppix, and they all boot with no problems. The drive is a Maxtor 6Y080L0 ATA. Using devfs, the drive is /dev/ide/host2/bus0/target0/lun0 on 2.4.16, but /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0 on the newer kernels. Error messages vary depending on the kernels, but they all end with: mount: /dev2/boot2 is not a valid block device /sbin/init: 338: cannot open dev/console: No such file Then the kernel panics. Any suggestions? Tom -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: My email is rejected by some sites
On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 06:41:59PM +0100, Magnus von Koeller wrote: Content-Description: signed data On Sunday 14 December 2003 17:21, Al Davis wrote: It is worth putting up with some spam to get a free, uncensored, fast email system. Free, uncensored and worthless would be a better description for my email account if it wasn't for my Spam filtering - considering that 95% of my email is Spam. i'm old enough to remember the first spam that ever happened, from a husband/wife team of lawyers who proposed immigration solutions for those who came from south of the u.s. border. at that time, everyone on the web reacted negatively, and, yet, we're still stuck with the same drivel, though, now, en masse. government regulation is, as always, a joke. unilateral censorship of undesired email is the only means that makes sense. thanks be to those who enable the means. i'd rather prime my own filter(s) than have it done by whatever rote appeals my isp. even on a per-minute dialup. ben -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Linux is not for consumers!
On Thursday 11 December 2003 12:26 pm, David Baron wrote: Problems persist and have gotten nowhere! 1. Connecting ADSL -- edited everything including ppp_on_boot, dsl_provider, pap_secrets, all that stuff. No go. Running pon ppp_on_boot gives me a bad tdb and quits. The only tdb reference is from Openoffice so is irrelevant here. (All of the little utilities for adding connections assume dialups. Windows has a virtual VPN adapter to handle that--says it's dialing but it ain't.) I am using an Alcatal speedtouch-home modem connected to a T100 card which is correctly detected and configured. Can ping the modem 10.0.0.138 and the computer 10.200.1.1. I can even get into the modem's own configuration page (use at your own risk as we have said!). 2. Running Java stuff--Open office works. I installed netbeans (a Java programming IDE) but cannot get it to run. 3. The Adobe Acrobat reader looks gosh-awful. Like Windows 2! I have a version 5.08 linux distribution--maybe this will look better? 4. Oldie-but-goody hardware which I really would like to use: sw60xg MIDI sound generator--no IRQ, no DMA, just a port address. This card should be accessable from MPU401 (done this way under W2K). That driver is there but I havent the foggiest on how to get it running and set it up. I would then like to control it through a WINE session (lot's of luck!). USB -- have a roland MIDI device on this, correctly detected but not shown on KINFO. This is of recent vintage and there should be some way of using it. I also need some sort of hot-plug support for a development project on which I am working, also in various windows flavors. dman2044 audio interface -- PCI, IRQ11--the linux detects that as an AGOSP Maestro card. There are no linux or even modern windows (W2K, XP) drivers around for this--have to do my production work in Win98. I have an old pro-audio16 clunker, an ISA card but I think Linux will support that one for listening to MP3s or CDs (I havent even tried them yet!). Davicom32 Fax modem -- ISA, detected. Fairly standard and NOT a win modem (these have never worked on this computer for whatever reason). Haven't the foggiest how to set up KFax or anything else to use this modem. IRQ5, I believe, sitting on COM3. Suppose I could try talking to it through KPPP. I would like to go over to Linux for everything except music production (since there is no appropriate software yet). I also am subscribed here [EMAIL PROTECTED] go here to subscribe http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-user Hope that helps! jaz -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Next On The Checklist - VNC
On Sunday 14 December 2003 10:56 pm, Scarletdown wrote: Oh, and after looking at everything I posted above here, I am now wondering... Since the lines added to /etc/inetd.conf call Xvnc, is it possible that I am calling up the wrong server when I test this stuff manually? I've been using vncserver :59xx... Yes. The 59X0 correlates on most platforms to :0, 59X1 = :1, etc. -- Nate Duehr, [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: can't logout on consoles
Shawn posts: experienced that when logging out on a console the message logout appears and the session hangs Have had a similar experience after upgrading `util-linux'. The package util-linux supplies getty, getty is the culprit here as it does not immediately free the tty after logout. don't recall this being related to any upgrade. Anyone have a clue for me? I recall this being related to an `util-linux' upgrade. Downgraded util-linux to 2.12-3 (sarge's version) and now all is normal. Maybe bsdutils and mount should also be downgraded. Hack getty! -- ragOO http://puggy.symonds.net/~fsug-kochi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
kernel expolit. is 2.4.18-bf2.4 affected?
Hi all, Is the stock woody 2.4.18-bf2.4 kernel affected by the kernel exploit that was used to attack the debian.org servers? If it is affected then what kernel is safe? Thanks Paul -- .''`. Paul William : :' :Debian admin and user `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fixing a system -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Trying to boot after Debian installer ran
I have run the debian installer, installed a base system, chose the default LILO install choice. The installer did NOT wright (I watched the drive light to verify this, it SHOULD have written) to the disk, system re-booted. I have mounted the Debian partitions to examine them. Debian root = hdb6 with /boot as a sub dir. Here is the contents of Debian /boot: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/mnt/Debianboot/boot$ ls -l total 4568 -rw-r--r--1 root root 518609 Oct 3 23:59 System.map-2.4.22-1-386 -rw-r--r--1 root root 512 Dec 14 09:46 boot.0340 -rw-r--r--1 root root42261 Sep 27 03:17 config-2.4.22-1-386 -rw-r--r--1 root root 3264512 Dec 14 09:45 initrd.img-2.4.22-1-386 -rw---1 root root53760 Dec 14 09:46 map -rw-r--r--1 root root 769886 Oct 3 23:59 vmlinuz-2.4.22-1-386 Here is my grub menu.lst: titleLibranet GNU/Linux, kernel 2.4.23 NEW root(hd0,5) kernel/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.23 root=/dev/hda6 ro hdc=scsi hdd=scsi vga=792 savedefault boot titleLibranet GNU/Linux, kernel 2.4.23 (single user mode) root(hd0,5) kernel/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.23 root=/dev/hda6 ro hdc=scsi hdd=scsi single savedefault boot titleDebian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.4.22-1-386 root(hd1,5) kernel/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.22-1-386 root=/dev/hdb6 ro hdc=scsi hdd=scsi savedefault boot The above Debain GNU/Linux entry will boot, but stops with an error message cant find image, please amend root= entry to the correct root image or words to that effect. Here is the question: Given the above, how can I get Debian to boot? cd into the Debain / (while running Libranet) and run lilo? Modify in some unknown to me way the above grub entry? I have removed the hdc=scsi entries. I have changed values for (hd1,5) and /dev/hdb6 on the chance that my understanding was flawed. I have found a different source for the iso image and downloaded/burned/loaded it. The Installer worked very well, except it seems to fail in allowing me access to my new shiny base system!!! Talk about security! The distro was sarge, ext3 was chosen for file systems, hdb6 /, hdb7 /home, hdb5 /var (as reiserfs). All partitions seem written to with out errors (as checked out from Libranet). -- Damon L. Chesser [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Trying to boot after Debian installer ran
Damon L. Chesser wrote: I have run the debian installer, installed a base system, chose the default LILO install choice. The installer did NOT wright (I watched the drive light to verify this, it SHOULD have written) to the disk, system re-booted. I have mounted the Debian partitions to examine them. Debian root = hdb6 with /boot as a sub dir. Here is the contents of Debian /boot: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/mnt/Debianboot/boot$ ls -l total 4568 -rw-r--r--1 root root 518609 Oct 3 23:59 System.map-2.4.22-1-386 -rw-r--r--1 root root 512 Dec 14 09:46 boot.0340 -rw-r--r--1 root root42261 Sep 27 03:17 config-2.4.22-1-386 -rw-r--r--1 root root 3264512 Dec 14 09:45 initrd.img-2.4.22-1-386 -rw---1 root root53760 Dec 14 09:46 map -rw-r--r--1 root root 769886 Oct 3 23:59 vmlinuz-2.4.22-1-386 Here is my grub menu.lst: titleLibranet GNU/Linux, kernel 2.4.23 NEW root(hd0,5) kernel/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.23 root=/dev/hda6 ro hdc=scsi hdd=scsi vga=792 savedefault boot titleLibranet GNU/Linux, kernel 2.4.23 (single user mode) root(hd0,5) kernel/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.23 root=/dev/hda6 ro hdc=scsi hdd=scsi single savedefault boot titleDebian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.4.22-1-386 root(hd1,5) kernel/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.22-1-386 root=/dev/hdb6 ro hdc=scsi hdd=scsi savedefault boot The above Debain GNU/Linux entry will boot, but stops with an error message cant find image, please amend root= entry to the correct root image or words to that effect. Here is the question: Given the above, how can I get Debian to boot? cd into the Debain / (while running Libranet) and run lilo? Modify in some unknown to me way the above grub entry? I have removed the hdc=scsi entries. I have changed values for (hd1,5) and /dev/hdb6 on the chance that my understanding was flawed. I have found a different source for the iso image and downloaded/burned/loaded it. The Installer worked very well, except it seems to fail in allowing me access to my new shiny base system!!! Talk about security! The distro was sarge, ext3 was chosen for file systems, hdb6 /, hdb7 /home, hdb5 /var (as reiserfs). All partitions seem written to with out errors (as checked out from Libranet). Hi, I don't know much about this. I used to have some similar problems which were solved by using the idebus option while booting I used idebus=66 U might need to check the boot options for ur specific coniguration. panda -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Trying to boot after Debian installer ran
On Sun, 2003-12-14 at 16:16, Damon L. Chesser wrote: Snip This got it going: (grub menu.lst of Libranet) title Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.4.22-1-386 root(hd1,5) kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.22-1-386 root=/dev/hdb6 ro hdc=scsi hdd=scsi initrd=/boot/initrd.img-2.4.22-1-386 **this line WAS missning and adding it makes it work savedefault boot -- Damon L. Chesser [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Next On The Checklist - VNC
On 14 Dec 2003 at 23:14, Nate Duehr wrote: On Sunday 14 December 2003 10:56 pm, Scarletdown wrote: Oh, and after looking at everything I posted above here, I am now wondering... Since the lines added to /etc/inetd.conf call Xvnc, is it possible that I am calling up the wrong server when I test this stuff manually? I've been using vncserver :59xx... Yes. The 59X0 correlates on most platforms to :0, 59X1 = :1, etc. What I meant was, should I be using Xvnc :59xx instead of vncserver :59xx? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
