Re: help with python bug

2004-06-07 Thread Faheem Mitha


On Sat, 5 Jun 2004, John Hasler wrote:

> Faheem Mitha writes:
> > Can anyone help me with a seemingly Debian-specific Python bug, Debian
> > bug no. 252517 (see
> > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=252517 )
>
> > Firstly, can anyone reproduce the problem on Sarge or unstable?
>
> I cannot reproduce it on Unstable.

Strange. I just upgraded a test installation to unstable, and I was still
able to reproduce it. Could someone else try it on sarge or unstable? It
is only a few minutes work. Thanks in advance.

   Faheem.


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Re: Cobalt

2004-06-07 Thread Joost De Cock
On Tuesday 08 June 2004 07:05, Martin Fritzsche hurled the following on the wire:
> Hallo
>
> Ich habe einen Cobalt 1 von einem Freund bekommmen. Da dieser das passwort
> nicht mehr weis will ich den Rechner mit Debian aufsielen. Da der Server
> kein CD Laufwerk hat (und auch nicht einbaubar ist) wollte ich fragen ab es
> fertige Festplatten Images gibt, oder ob (wie) es möglich ist den Server
> über das Netzwerk zu booten. Ich habe einen DHCP Server der ein mini system
> auf meinen Server überträgt und ein Skript mit dem sich denn ein Fertig
> installiertes System auf die Platte aufspielt.
>
> PS. Mir steht nur eine serielle Verbindung zur Verfügung

If the hardware supports it, you should be able to boot it from a tftp server. 
The process is described in the install manual:

http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual

There's also a procedure described to install from an existing unix/linux 
installation. I guess you could try that too. It would require you to recover 
the password, but I assume you can get the thing in single user mode, right?

Good luck. I hope you understand English. I might understand German (more or 
less) but I'm not up to the task of formulating my answer in German.

joost


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Re: Website creating software

2004-06-07 Thread Joost De Cock
On Monday 07 June 2004 17:36, Nick Smith hurled the following on the wire:
> Joost De Cock said:
> > On Monday 07 June 2004 15:31, jack kinnon hurled the following on the
> >
> > wire:
> >> Hi
> >>  Thanks for the input. What I am referring to is
> >> something like the MS FrontPage, not just an ordinary
> >> editor.
[...]
> forget frontpage, what about a dreamweaver alternative? i do respect the
> hand coding people out there, i too started coding with VI, but there is
> no way im going to design complex image maps or anything else with lengthy
> code by hand any more, too much chance for error and it takes way too long
> to do it.  i wish wine would pick up the pace and get compatible with MX
> 2004 and for that matter photoshop CS. but i would be happy with just a
> dreamweaver alternative.  which in my search i can find nothing that comes
> close to the power of dreamweaver.

Well, thanks for the respect :) however, I do agree with the 'forget 
frontpage' part, but I don't agree with going the dreamweaver road. I used 
dreamweaver a lot a few years ago, I'm not saying I'm an expert, but I sure 
got past the steep part of the learning curve. It is indeed a very powerfull 
editor, but I think you'll agree (judging by your examples) that it's 
something you want to use when your building a nice looking flashy graphical 
website.
I myself code webapplications in PHP, dynamic pages, database access, 
scripts,... you name it. When doing this sort of work, VI beats dreamweaver 
hands down. First of all, who needs all the bloat, but the better syntax 
highlighting, supreme indentation (a nightmare in Dreamweaver last time I 
checked), speed, and all the nifty shortcutes that make VI what it is just 
make it a nobrainer to go for VI.
Furthermore, if I need a quick change, SSH to the webserver, load VI and 
tadaa.

I guess it boils down to the 'right tool for the job' mantra. I do agree that 
only a graphical artist with a serious CLI twist would use VI for his work on 
websites.

joost


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Re: Software to create 3D buttons for use on web pages, etc

2004-06-07 Thread Joost De Cock
On Tuesday 08 June 2004 07:41, Joost De Cock hurled the following on the wire:
> On Monday 07 June 2004 16:57, Kevin Murphy hurled the following on the wire:
> > I'm interested in creating 3D-buttons, ideally with a rounded,
> > ray-traced look.
> >
> > Anybody have any advice?
> >
> > I am hoping that someone has scripted one of the major graphics
> > programs to help automate this process.
>
> This script creates nifty looking OSX-Aqua style buttons. I've used it, and
> they look very good.
>
> The script is easy to modify too.
>
> http://members.rogers.com/ityker/aqua.pl

and euh... It's a GIMP script, so you'll need the GIMP

joost


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Re: Software to create 3D buttons for use on web pages, etc

2004-06-07 Thread Joost De Cock
On Monday 07 June 2004 16:57, Kevin Murphy hurled the following on the wire:
> I'm interested in creating 3D-buttons, ideally with a rounded,
> ray-traced look.
>
> Anybody have any advice?
>
> I am hoping that someone has scripted one of the major graphics
> programs to help automate this process.  

This script creates nifty looking OSX-Aqua style buttons. I've used it, and 
they look very good.

The script is easy to modify too.

http://members.rogers.com/ityker/aqua.pl

joost


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Cobalt

2004-06-07 Thread Martin Fritzsche


Hallo 

Ich habe einen Cobalt 1 von einem Freund bekommmen. Da dieser das passwort
nicht mehr weis will ich den Rechner mit Debian aufsielen. Da der Server
kein CD Laufwerk hat (und auch nicht einbaubar ist) wollte ich fragen ab es
fertige Festplatten Images gibt, oder ob (wie) es möglich ist den Server
über das Netzwerk zu booten. Ich habe einen DHCP Server der ein mini system
auf meinen Server überträgt und ein Skript mit dem sich denn ein Fertig
installiertes System auf die Platte aufspielt. 

PS. Mir steht nur eine serielle Verbindung zur Verfügung

Danke Martin



Re: Typical partition table for Debian?

2004-06-07 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Also, a lot of people don't really need a 100mb boot partition, even if
you have a separate boot partition. I often have 3 or 4 kernel images with
corresponding System.map and config, and I haven't ever needed more than a
15-20mb space for them. It really depends on what you are planning to do.


-- 
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Re: jigdo image errors

2004-06-07 Thread Mike Chandler
On Monday 07 June 2004 07:59 pm, Eduardo Gargiulo wrote:
> Hi all
>
> I'm still trying to download sarge-i386 iso images using jigdo-lite.
>
> Image 1 (sarge-i386-1.iso) have problems, some packages listed in
> jigdo/template files aren't found on the repositories. Some other
> packages are listed as ".udeb" files ??!! and aren't found too.
>
> I have attached the log, where you can see the errors reported by
> jigdo-lite. How can I fix this?
>
> Any help would be appreciated.
>
> regards
>
> -ejg

Hey, it looks like you are using a server that is down, or else for whatever 
reason you're not connecting. First thing I would try (since you obviously 
can connect to the internet) is try a different server.


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Re: Possible convert to Debian

2004-06-07 Thread Peter Bonucci
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On Monday 07 June 2004 8:26 pm, William Ballard wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 07, 2004 at 10:10:18PM -0500, John Fleming wrote:
> > Any other comments for this relative newbie that's old (>50) and not a
> > sysadmin by trade?  Thanks a bunch for your time!
>
> It takes about a month of solid work to get all your hardware and eye
> candy working in Sid.  Use Knoppix LiveCD detect all your hardware, and
> print out what drivers are detected and the output of lspci and stuff.
>
> It takes about 15-20 clean "do-overs" before you'll get it all working
> "cleanly."
[snip]
> It's hard but worth it.

It is not *that* hard.  If you want to use Knoppix, install Knoppix, then 
upgrade to unstable.  The instructions are on knoppix.net.  It might take you 
twice to get it right.

In the recent version of Knoppix, they repackaged some common packages.  You 
will probably want to remove their custom packages and download the standard 
packages.

Right now is probably a good time to do it.  I don't think anything in Knoppix 
is currently broken in unstable.

Peter A. Bonucci
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jigdo image errors

2004-06-07 Thread Eduardo Gargiulo
Hi all
I'm still trying to download sarge-i386 iso images using jigdo-lite.
Image 1 (sarge-i386-1.iso) have problems, some packages listed in
jigdo/template files aren't found on the repositories. Some other
packages are listed as ".udeb" files ??!! and aren't found too.
I have attached the log, where you can see the errors reported by
jigdo-lite. How can I fix this?
Any help would be appreciated.
regards
-ejg


jigdo.log.gz
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Re: Default printer in XPrint/FireFox?

2004-06-07 Thread Roland Mainz
Magnus Therning wrote:
> I have two network printers configured in CUPS:
> 
>  bern (CUPS default)
>  escher
> 
> FireFox finds both (through XPrint I guess), but it disregards the CUPS
> setting for what printer should be the default one. Can I somehow get
> XPrint or FireFox to use bern as its default?

>From the Xprint FAQ (http://xprint.mozdev.org/docs/Xprint_FAQ.html):
-- snip --
How do I configure Xprint on the client side ?
A: There are two env vars which control Xprint on the client side:
[snip]
2. The env variable ${XPRINTER} defines the default printer used by
   print applications. The syntax is either  or
   @
   
Examples:
a.
  % export XPRINTER=ps003
tells an application to look for the first printer named
"ps003" on all Xprt servers.
b.
  % export XPRINTER="[EMAIL PROTECTED]:80"
tells an application to look for the printer "hplaser19" on
the Xprt display "littlecat:80".   
Note:
   If ${XPRINTER} is not set the applications will examine the values of
   the ${PDPRINTER}, ${LPDEST}, and ${PRINTER} env vars (in that order).
-- snip --

You either set the ${XPRINTER} env var if you only want to affect Xprint
clients or use the Unix standard var ${LPDEST} ...



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Re: Possible convert to Debian

2004-06-07 Thread Adam Aube
John Fleming wrote:

> 1.  It sounds like Sid is actually pretty stable, I'm guessing especially
> for the basic mail and webserving things I use.  Would you recommend I go
> with Sid, or with testing or stable?

Overall, Sid is rather stable. However, every thread on this topic I have
seen in the last six months had the same answer: unless its a personal
server, run Stable.

Unstable is in a constant state of flux, and with that flux comes a much
higher chance of something being broken. These problems do get sorted out
eventually, but you really don't want to have a production server suddenly
down for a few days due to a broken package.

> 2. It seems that installing from the Knoppix CD might be a bit easier for
> a newbie?

Perhaps. At the same time, though it lacks the nice GUI of other installers,
the Woody installer isn't very difficult to use. You could also use the new
Debian Installer, which I can say from experience is much improved over the
installer used in Woody.

> I've never tried something like woody 3.0r2 on new technology - 
> only on an older limited computer, and I had problems with NIC being
> recognized and others.

I've run into the same problem. The general solution is to build a custom
kernel with newer 2.4 kernel sources.

> 4. Correct me if I'm wrong, but as I understand it, if I use Sid and keep
> it updated, I should never have to do a complete reinstall of the OS as
> recommended for Fedora upgrades.  And if I use the stable version, I can
> do an apt-get dist upgrade and upgrade to the new version(s) as available
> without a complete reinstall, right?

Correct.

> Any other comments for this relative newbie that's old (>50) and not a
> sysadmin by trade?  Thanks a bunch for your time!

Don't give up - instead, view each challenge as a valuable learning
experience. One of the benfits of an OS that doesn't try to do everything
for you (besides not getting in the way) is that it forces you to
understand it better.

That knowledge is very handy in the event something goes wrong.

As for those questions I didn't answer (because I felt I lacked sufficient
knowledge to be helpful), try Google and the list archives - odds are they
have been previously discussed and answered somewhere.

Adam


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Re: apt-get error

2004-06-07 Thread Nick Smith

Nick Smith said:
> can someone tell me what to do to get rid of this error message:
>
> dpkg: error processing sslwrap (--configure):
> subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
> Errors were encountered while processing:
> sslwrap
> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
>
> i tried apt-get'ting it and it had an error, now i just want to get rid
> of it and apt-get remove will not remove it, apt-get clean has no
> effect either.
> TIA
>
> nick


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Re: Possible convert to Debian

2004-06-07 Thread Kent West
John Fleming wrote:
 With my FC2 server (Dell 600SC), I have these things going: pop and
 imap mail, Squirrelmail, Mailman, SpamAssassin, Webmin, and Apache
 with several virtual hosts.
 I've toyed with Debian and Knoppix a bit, but haven't tried to fully
 implement the above services yet and have a few questions.
 1. It sounds like Sid is actually pretty stable, I'm guessing
 especially for the basic mail and webserving things I use. Would you
 recommend I go with Sid, or with testing or stable?
It's usually recommended to have servers on Stable. The "unstable" in 
Sid doesn't refer to the system that runs Sid, or even the individual 
packages so much, but rather to the every-changing nature of the 
available packages. Today you might have Foo version 1.2 and tomorrow it 
might be version 1.25 and the next day it might be version 1.7. If you 
setup a box with Sid and get everything working the way you like, you 
can run fine for years without any problems, except if one of the 
packages has a bug/vulnerability. Then of course you'd want to upgrade 
that package, but if you upgrade Sid, you might wind up upgrading half 
your system, and what will that do to your perfectly tuned box? Stable 
has a special repository of security patches which is designed to keep 
Stable stable with the ability to patch; Testing and Sid do not.

So if you need 24x7 uptime on your server, Stable. If it's just 
something you're tinkering with and want newer packages and can live 
with an occasional week-long brokenness is some package or other pretty 
often, then Sid.

With Stable, you can also use Backports to get newer versions of 
software, but I've never tried that and can't recommend it one way or 
the other.


 2. It seems that installing from the Knoppix CD might be a bit
 easier for a newbie? I've never tried something like woody 3.0r2 on
 new technology - only on an older limited computer, and I had
 problems with NIC being recognized and others. I have installed Sid
 using the Knoppix CD on my Dell laptop after first partitioning with
 Partition Magic and have a dual boot going with Sid and that other
 OS. I have done some preliminary experimenting using apt-get to
 install Squirrelmail and Webmin, tinkering with the sources list and
 so forth, so I'm a little familiar with how that works.
Installing from Knoppix is easier generally (provided you're on x86 
hardware; installing on Sparc or PowerPC, etc, of course eliminates this 
option). However, there are two disadvantages to this:

1) Last I tried, Knoppix wanted to install everything into one 2GB or 
larger partition. I like to have separate partitions for /, /usr/, 
/usr/local/, /var/, /home/, and /tmp. To accomplish this on a Knoppix 
install means lots of partitioning "magic" after the install. Nasty.

2) You wind up with a machine that is a mix of Stable, Testing, and 
Unstable, along with other 3rd-party repositories. Upgrading might get 
pretty nasty in that situation.


 3. If I start with the Knoppix CD, I really do end up with the same
 Debian Sid distro as if I started with the unstable CDs themselves?
No. See Disadvantage #2 above.
 4. Correct me if I'm wrong, but as I understand it, if I use Sid and
 keep it updated, I should never have to do a complete reinstall of
 the OS as recommended for Fedora upgrades. And if I use the stable
 version, I can do an apt-get dist upgrade and upgrade to the new
 version(s) as available without a complete reinstall, right?
I believe a smooth upgrade is only guaranteed from one version of Stable 
to the next. However, lots of folks here upgrade Unstable everyday. Of 
course, lots of folks run into broken-ness everyday also. If you can't 
handle glitches, stick with Stable. (Most of the glitches clear up on 
their own (well, by the Developer's efforts, actually), but sometimes 
you have to actually fix the problem, although this list and/or Google 
and/or other resources will generally provide the Howto on the fix by 
the time you decide you'll have to fix it yourself. But not always.)


 5. I am interested in software RAID 1 and have 2 identical HDDs. Is
 there an option during the install from Debian CDs (didn't see it in
 the Knoppix HD install) to setup RAID? If not, any recs on the
 easiest way to get RAID 1 going after the initial installation?
Never done RAID; can't speak on it.
 Any other comments for this relative newbie that's old (>50) and not
 a sysadmin by trade? Thanks a bunch for your time! -John
If you need 24x7 reliability; Stable. (Usually for servers.)
If you can stand periods of broken-ness, and want newer software, Sid. 
(Usually for workstations -- still more reliable than Windows workstations.)

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Re: glibc + libstdc++?

2004-06-07 Thread Jeff Elkins
On Monday 07 June 2004 12:06 pm, Bob Proulx wrote:
>Jeff Elkins wrote:
>> Bob Proulx wrote:
>> > Jeff Elkins wrote:
>> > > pvconv: relocation error: pvconv: undefined symbol: __dynamic_cast_2
>> >
>> > I was curious enough to download the application and try it.  I can
>> > get a usage string out of it so I think I have all of the libraries on
>> > my woody system.  I got a usage string out of it on a sid system.
>>
>> [...]
>>  libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3 => /usr/lib/libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3
>> (0x40029000) [...]
>> dpkg -S /usr/lib/libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3
>> libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2: /usr/lib/libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3
>> [...]
>> Yep, I get a usage string, it just crashes when I try to use the app
>>  :)
>
>One of the things I am very interested in is cross distro
>compatibility.  So I ran the binary on a RH7.3 machine.  I just ran it
>against a random .wav file and it appeared that it runs there.  It
>gave me error messages about the conversion but did not report the
>missing symbol __dynamic_cast_2.
>
>Then I copied the library from the RH machine to my Debian woody
>machine.  I did not remove the debian package first.  Too many things
>depend up it.
>
>  apt-cache showpkg libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2
>
>But it is not required for basic C programs which make up the core
>utilities.  That is I won't break 'mv' by doing this like I could
>moving other libs around.
>
>Therefore I moved my debian version of the library out of the way and
>moved the RH version into place directly.  With that copied into place
>on Debian the pvconv program ran the same on my Debian machine as it
>did on the RH machine.  With this library in place I think the program
>will run.
>
>  cd /usr/lib
>  mv libstdc++-3-libc6.2-2-2.10.0.so libstdc++-3-libc6.2-2-2.10.0.so.debian
>  cp libstdc++-3-libc6.2-2-2.10.0.so.redhat libstdc++-3-libc6.2-2-2.10.0.so
>
>Warning: I really can't recommend this type of low level shared
>library manipulation.  Mistakes can really cause trouble with your
>system.  You can definitely break your system and need to boot a
>recovery image to repair it.  This is not the way to manage a system
>in production for example.  But for debugging this type of hacking can
>be useful.  And for your particular problem you might find this useful
>enough to solve your problem as much as you need it to be solved.
>
>I found an rpm of the library here:
>
> 
> http://www.rpmfind.net//linux/RPM/redhat/7.3/updates/i386/libstdc++-2.96-11
>3.i386.html
>
>That can be unpacked using:
>
>  rpm2cpio libstdc++-2.96-113.i386.rpm | cpio -idm
>
>I see this solution as only a workaround.  The real solution would be
>to understand what RH did to their library which breaks compatibility,
>or the reverse.  Then modify the Debian version so that it works there
>too.
>
>Bob

Yippee!!  It works :)

Thank you, thank you :)

I set up a script to swap the libs, run the converter, then swap them back so 
as not to leave my system in an unstable state. Goodbye Windows!

Jeff 


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Re: Typical partition table for Debian?

2004-06-07 Thread Lorenzo Prince
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# What's a "typical" partition table look like for a Debian box?
# 
# I thought that the minimum would be:
# 
# /boot   around 100-200 mb
# swaparound 1-2x RAM (in this case, 2 gig)
# / everything else...

This is typical, but not the minimum requirement.  All you really need is swap
and /.  /boot can simply be a directory on the / partition if it doesn't have its
own partition.  The system will still run that way, which is, I guess why Debian
sets it up that way automatically.



# The problem that I'm trying to track down is with the Beta 4 Debian 
# Installer and it appears that it DOESN'T create the /boot partition when 
# you let it partition automatically.
# 
# Instead, it creates just:
# 
# swaparound 1-2x RAM (in this case, 2 gig)
# / everything else...
# 
# Notice no /boot partition at all so where would Grub and the kernel be?

This is fine.  The kernel and GRUB don't have to live on their own partition.  I
just put Debian on my new laptop, and it partitioned my disk the same way,
because I just didn't feel like fooling with all those partitions yesterday.  It
is working flawlessly today, and I don't have to worry about outgrowing any of my
partitions, although I was a little partial to /boot having /dev/hda1 as well.

PRINCE


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Re: xfs and cyrillic

2004-06-07 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Glenn Meehan:
> 
> I am getting the following line in /var/log/messages on start up.
> 
> xfs: ignoring font path element /usr/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic/
> (unreadable) 
> 
> The directory: "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic/" does not exist.
> 
> I don't need cyrillic fonts.
> 
> How can I make the message go away?

As root, "vi /etc/X11/XF86Config-4"

In vi, type "/cyrillic" followed by the "Enter" key.

Assuming that lands the cursor on the line you mention above, hit "^"
then "i" then "#" then "" then "ZZ".  The line should end up
looking like:

# FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic"

Re-start X (log out of X Window, then log back in).


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apt-get error

2004-06-07 Thread Nick Smith
can someone tell me what to do to get rid of this error message:

dpkg: error processing sslwrap (--configure):
 subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
Errors were encountered while processing:
 sslwrap
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)

i tried apt-get'ting it and it had an error, now i just want to get rid of
it and apt-get remove will not remove it, apt-get clean has no effect
either.
TIA

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Re: Possible convert to Debian

2004-06-07 Thread Simon Kitching
On Tue, 2004-06-08 at 15:10, John Fleming wrote:
> Consider me a newbie, but with enough experience to be dangerous.  I started
> learning Linux with RH8.0 about a year ago.  I later installed Fedora Core 1
> and have upgraded to FC2, but I'm not happy with the upgrade process (they
> recommend a fresh install of each upgrade, and of course, Fedora has a
> relatively frequent planned upgrade cycle).  For my intended uses, I don't
> care about support for the latest whiz-bang USB devices, cameras,
> Centrino/ProWireless etc - I just want easy to install and maintain basic
> server functions with decent security.  With my FC2 server (Dell 600SC), I
> have these things going:  pop and imap mail, Squirrelmail, Mailman,
> SpamAssassin, Webmin, and Apache with several virtual hosts.

I'm fairly new to Debian myself (but with experience with commercial
unix flavours and other linux distros) so probably know where you're
coming from.

> 
> I've toyed with Debian and Knoppix a bit, but haven't tried to fully
> implement the above services yet and have a few questions.
> 
> 1.  It sounds like Sid is actually pretty stable, I'm guessing especially
> for the basic mail and webserving things I use.  Would you recommend I go
> with Sid, or with testing or stable?

Personally I would recommend the "testing" distribution. Sid/unstable
really can be unstable at times. I upgraded last week and lost all
network connectivity for a while. Others have reported losing all
graphics, etc. Unless you're fairly happy poking around in config files
from a console the unstable distribution can be nasty.

I ran testing for several months, though, and had only the occasional
minor inconvenience in return for access to software *reasonably close*
to the latest releases.

Stable is really old at the moment - though hopefully a new release will
be out within a few months. It's really more appropriate to servers than
desktop systems.

> 
> 2.  It seems that installing from the Knoppix CD might be a bit easier for a
> newbie?  I've never tried something like woody 3.0r2 on new technology -
> only on an older limited computer, and I had problems with NIC being
> recognized and others.  I have installed Sid using the Knoppix CD on my Dell
> laptop after first partitioning with Partition Magic and have a dual boot
> going with Sid and that other OS.  I have done some preliminary
> experimenting using apt-get to install Squirrelmail and Webmin, tinkering
> with the sources list and so forth, so I'm a little familiar with how that
> works.

Lots of work has gone into a new debian installer over the last year or
so. It is at "beta 3" or similar at the moment. I used it to install my
current system and found it pretty good; it's not as friendly as
RedHat's Anaconda installer but from what you describe of your
background I think you would be comfortable with it. BTW, I'm not
criticising the new debian-installer by comparing to anaconda; there are
lots of things it can do that anaconda cannot.

A lot of work has been done on auto-detection of hardware & peripherals,
so you might be pleasantly surprised.

> 3.  If I start with the Knoppix CD, I really do end up with the same Debian
> Sid distro as if I started with the unstable CDs themselves?

Not quite, according to the reports I've seen. Yes, you can point a
Knoppix installation at standard debian repositories to get updates. But
apparently Knoppix sets up some of the system scripts etc. differently
from debian so there can be surprises (unexpected breakage) later on.
NB: all this is just hearsay.

> 
> 4. Correct me if I'm wrong, but as I understand it, if I use Sid and keep it
> updated, I should never have to do a complete reinstall of the OS as
> recommended for Fedora upgrades.  And if I use the stable version, I can do
> an apt-get dist upgrade and upgrade to the new version(s) as available
> without a complete reinstall, right?

I believe this is the case no matter whether you run stable, testing or
unstable. Running dist-upgrade just pulls down the appropriate files.
I've not been using Debian long enough to go through a major release
upgrade yet, but I've heard only good things about the process.

> 
> 5.  I am interested in software RAID 1 and have 2 identical HDDs.  Is there
> an option during the install from Debian CDs (didn't see it in the Knoppix
> HD install) to setup RAID?  If not, any recs on the easiest way to get RAID
> 1 going after the initial installation?

No idea.

> 
> Any other comments for this relative newbie that's old (>50) and not a
> sysadmin by trade?  Thanks a bunch for your time!

I have used RedHat8 and 9, Mandrake9 and 9.1, and debian. 

My early experiences of debian never got past the amazingly complex
installation process. However using the new debian installer was quite
reasonable and I am now sold on debian.

Cheers,

Simon




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Re: Possible convert to Debian

2004-06-07 Thread William Ballard
On Mon, Jun 07, 2004 at 10:10:18PM -0500, John Fleming wrote:
> Any other comments for this relative newbie that's old (>50) and not a
> sysadmin by trade?  Thanks a bunch for your time!

It takes about a month of solid work to get all your hardware and eye 
candy working in Sid.  Use Knoppix LiveCD detect all your hardware, and 
print out what drivers are detected and the output of lspci and stuff.

It takes about 15-20 clean "do-overs" before you'll get it all working 
"cleanly."

Fonts will be ugly as sin at first, and you'll have to go right back to 
twm and xterm, get those fonts working, then get old gtk/xft1 apps fonts 
working well.  The newest GTK2 apps will have pretty anti aliasing fonts 
right from the get go.

It's hard but worth it.


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xfs and cyrillic

2004-06-07 Thread Glenn Meehan
Hi,

I am getting the following line in /var/log/messages on start up.

xfs: ignoring font path element /usr/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic/
(unreadable) 

The directory: "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic/" does not exist.

I don't need cyrillic fonts.

How can I make the message go away?

Thanks


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Possible convert to Debian

2004-06-07 Thread John Fleming
Consider me a newbie, but with enough experience to be dangerous.  I started
learning Linux with RH8.0 about a year ago.  I later installed Fedora Core 1
and have upgraded to FC2, but I'm not happy with the upgrade process (they
recommend a fresh install of each upgrade, and of course, Fedora has a
relatively frequent planned upgrade cycle).  For my intended uses, I don't
care about support for the latest whiz-bang USB devices, cameras,
Centrino/ProWireless etc - I just want easy to install and maintain basic
server functions with decent security.  With my FC2 server (Dell 600SC), I
have these things going:  pop and imap mail, Squirrelmail, Mailman,
SpamAssassin, Webmin, and Apache with several virtual hosts.

I've toyed with Debian and Knoppix a bit, but haven't tried to fully
implement the above services yet and have a few questions.

1.  It sounds like Sid is actually pretty stable, I'm guessing especially
for the basic mail and webserving things I use.  Would you recommend I go
with Sid, or with testing or stable?

2.  It seems that installing from the Knoppix CD might be a bit easier for a
newbie?  I've never tried something like woody 3.0r2 on new technology -
only on an older limited computer, and I had problems with NIC being
recognized and others.  I have installed Sid using the Knoppix CD on my Dell
laptop after first partitioning with Partition Magic and have a dual boot
going with Sid and that other OS.  I have done some preliminary
experimenting using apt-get to install Squirrelmail and Webmin, tinkering
with the sources list and so forth, so I'm a little familiar with how that
works.

3.  If I start with the Knoppix CD, I really do end up with the same Debian
Sid distro as if I started with the unstable CDs themselves?

4. Correct me if I'm wrong, but as I understand it, if I use Sid and keep it
updated, I should never have to do a complete reinstall of the OS as
recommended for Fedora upgrades.  And if I use the stable version, I can do
an apt-get dist upgrade and upgrade to the new version(s) as available
without a complete reinstall, right?

5.  I am interested in software RAID 1 and have 2 identical HDDs.  Is there
an option during the install from Debian CDs (didn't see it in the Knoppix
HD install) to setup RAID?  If not, any recs on the easiest way to get RAID
1 going after the initial installation?

Any other comments for this relative newbie that's old (>50) and not a
sysadmin by trade?  Thanks a bunch for your time!
-John





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Re: newb question: user switching in KDE?

2004-06-07 Thread Kent West
Mal Beaton wrote:
Thanks for the idea. That is good. However I start the second session
ctl-alt-f2
login as another user
startx -- :1
starts fine
ctl=alt-f7 back to my first session
then I ctl-alt-f2 back to other session
it has crashed
no real (EE) showing.
If you really intended to write "f2", then you should know it should be 
"f8". If you mistyped and meant "f8", my suspicion is that X doesn't 
like your video card and/or the resolution/color depth settings for 
running two servers.

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RE: newb question: user swithcing in KDE

2004-06-07 Thread Clifton Sluss








Ignatz,

You may have
figured this our already but for prosperity here goes...

Kent's
answer below is awesome, i have already started using
it, but if you 

want
a graphical user switching interface KDE provides an excellent one.  All 

you
have to do is make kdm your default display
manager.  if
kdm is installed 

then
just edit thet file /etc/X11/default-display-manager

change
/usr/bin/?dm to /usr/bin/kdm  (props to Igor for that one).

if
kdm is not installed use apt-get or synaptic to
install it.  part
of this 

install
involves it asking you which display manger you want as default, just 

pick
kdm.  then go into kontrol center and
under system administration there 

is
a login manager section.  push the administrator mode button and then the 

Users
tab.  if you
want the login manager to show the user names select the 

Selected users
button (your users should appear in the list in the center of 

the
window)  you an also pick goofy
pictures for your users.  reboot may be 

necessary
for changes to take effect.

 

if
kdm is already installed and is the default then you
can just do the 

kontrol
center stuff

 

 

good
luck

clifton

 

Ignatz
Sol wrote:

 

>I am a
recent convert to Linux, running Debian sarge/testing with KDE

>3.2.2.
 I am interested in setting up some sort of user switching, so

>that my
wife can have her setup separate from mine.
 I've been

>especially
inspired by the switching available in the new Mac OSX. 

>Now I
don't need anything fancy, and I've found a few references to

>this (like
this link, http://www.mepis.org/node/view/2083, though I

>haven't
been able to try it out yet).  Just want to be clear as to

>what is
the best way to facilitate this.  I will also need to be able

>to switch
with an icon or something similar to make it simple for
my

>wife.
 Thanks for any help.

>

>

>  

>

I don't know
about an icon-based switch, but I've been using switching 

at
my house for years.

 

After the
first person is logged into X in the normal manner (startx,


xdm, kdm, whatever), the second user can Ctrl-Alt-F2 to get to a


console,
log in there, and then start a second session of X with "startx 

-- :1".
The third person can log in (Ctrl-Alt-F3) and start a third 

session
with "startx -- :2", and so on.

 

You can even
configure kdm to have a graphical login on each X
session 

to
make it easier, but I prefer the startx method
myself.

 

Then to switch
between users, Ctrl-Alt-F7 to switch to the first 

session,
Ctrl-Alt-F8 to the second, Ctrl-Alt-F9 to the third, etc.

 

I don't know
of any way to autolock the screen when leaving one
screen, 

but
a screensaver with a password might do for your needs (at my house, 

passwords
aren't an issue).

 

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wvdial connects but no internet and KPPP dies

2004-06-07 Thread Jason Kretzer
Hello all,
 
I have set up wvdial to connect to my isp.  I use it
to connect but cannot get any internet sites.  I
have checked the resolv.conf file while wvdial is
running, and my dns servers are correct there.

So, I tried KPPP.  I configured it with everything it
needs and it connects for a split second before pppd
dies.  I can give more details is necessary.

Anyone have any other pointers?

thanks,

-Jason





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Re: newb question: user switching in KDE?

2004-06-07 Thread Mal Beaton
Ralph Katz wrote:
On 06/07/04 20:00, Mal Beaton wrote:
Kent West wrote:
[...]
Then to switch between users, Ctrl-Alt-F7 to switch to the first 
session, Ctrl-Alt-F8 to the second, Ctrl-Alt-F9 to the third, etc.
[...]
Thanks for the idea. That is good. However I start the second session
ctl-alt-f2
login as another user
startx -- :1
starts fine
ctl=alt-f7 back to my first session
then I ctl-alt-f2 back to other session
it has crashed
no real (EE) showing.
Any ideas of what to look for


The X terminal you want to go back to is Ctrl-Alt-F8, as Ken said.  I 
know because I've made the same error.  For me, it was gdm not kdm, but 
same deal, I think.  (I'm no expert.)

Actually, now that I'm looking at how I launch the 2nd X session, it's a 
one line shell script:

DISPLAY=:1 startx -- :1
Regards.

excellent thank you
works a treat

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Re: Website creating software

2004-06-07 Thread Lee Braiden
On Tuesday 08 Jun 2004 00:31, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Mon, 7 Jun 2004, Nick Smith wrote:
> > forget frontpage, what about a dreamweaver alternative?
> You might want to check out N-View, see http://www.nvu.com/ for more

I gather NVu is simple Mozilla's Composer program by another name.  Actually, 
composer seems quite good.  Otherwise, I'd recommend Quanta :)

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Re:Website creating software

2004-06-07 Thread jack kinnon
Hi folks,

Thanks for the flood of info. Now I have a better idea
about what are available out there.

Cheers





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locale vs. localeconf & /etc/environment & paper sizes

2004-06-07 Thread William Ballard
I noticed both "dpkg-reconfigure localeconf" and "dpkg-reconfigure 
locales" will change /etc/environment.  Sometimes you will end up with 
LANG=en_US in the "Debconf" section (via localeconf) and also LANG=en_US 
at the end (added by locales).

But when you "clear" your language to none via dpkg-reconfigure of 
either, both settings are cleared.

Why do they both set it?

Also, I have questions about various apps and how they decide to use A4 
or US Letter as the default:

* OpenOffice seems to always use US Letter as the default.
* So does Mozilla Firebird.
* Current KDElibs in sid seems to always use A4.
* a2ps seems to follow libpaper, i.e., what is in /etc/papersize.
* Gimp seems to always use US Letter as the default.

"locale" tells me LC_PAPER="en_US".  Is that why OO, Moz, and Gimp are 
all using US Letter?  Is there a way to slave LC_PAPER to 
/etc/papersize?


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Simultaneous mounting dvd & cdrw conflict

2004-06-07 Thread Adam Bogacki
I'm confused about mounting dvd & cdrw drives.
I wish to (permanently  ?) mount both so that I can play dvd's and also 
burn audio from CD's in drive dvd.
However, it seems I can't mount both at the same time.

'dmesg' gives me
hdc: ATAPI DVD-ROM drive, 512kB Cache, UDMA(33)
Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.20
hdd: ATAPI 32X CD-ROM CD-R/RW drive, 2048kB Cache, DMA
hdd: drive_cmd: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
hdd: drive_cmd: error=0x04Aborted Command

However,
Tux:~# mount -t iso9660 /dev/dvd /mnt/dvd
mount: /dev/dvd is not a block device
Tux:~# mount -t udf /dev/hdc /mnt/dvd
mount: block device /dev/hdc is write-protected, mounting read-only
Tux:~# mount -t iso9660 /dev/hdd /mnt/cdrw
mount: block device /dev/hdd is write-protected, mounting read-only
mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdd,
   or too many mounted file systems

My /etc/fstab includes
/dev/fd0/floppy auto
defaults,user,noauto0   0
/dev/hdd/cdrw   iso9660 
defaults,rw,user,noauto 0   0
/dev/hdc/dvdudf 
defaults,ro,user,noauto 0   0
/dev/hdb2   /boot   ext3defaults0   2

Also, I get
:~$ mplayer dvd://1
..
Can't open VMG info !
which I understand is due to mplayer looking for  /dev/dvd, but
Tux:~# ln -s /dev/hdc /dev/dvd
ln: `/dev/dvd/hdc': File exists

changes nothing.
Any ideas ?
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Re: Website creating software

2004-06-07 Thread Chris Metzler
On Tue, 8 Jun 2004 01:31:23 +0200 (MEST)
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>
> You might want to check out N-View, see http://www.nvu.com/ for more
> info. Haven't use it myself though, I am just too fond of vim and
> more recently the Template Toolkit.

My understanding is that NVu is just Mozilla's editor plus some
additional features.

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Re: [YA] SBLive 5.1 but no sound (ALSA)

2004-06-07 Thread Chris Metzler
On Sun, 06 Jun 2004 23:46:48 -0600
Hamilcar Barca <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, 05 Jun 2004 01:43:47 -0400, Chris Metzler wrote:
>> 
>> Do me a favor -- pass along the output of lspci, [...]
> 
> I've wrapped it.
> 
[ snip ]
>
> :00:0c.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Live! 
>  EMU10k1 (rev 0a)
[ snip ]
> :00:0c.0 Class 0401: 1102:0002 (rev 0a)

OK, this shoots down my second idea.  One other common problem here is
that Dell markets and sells with their machines a card they call a
Soundblaster Live, and that identifies itself superficially as an
SBLive.  But it's not really one, isn't compatible with the normal
SBLive cards, and isn't supported under Linux at all (by either OSS
or ALSA) except with a proprietary OSS driver from 4Front that costs
money.  That's a really common reason people fail to get SBLive
cards working.  But, you don't have that problem.

Your ALSA modules list, from your earlier post, looks just fine.  So
sorry, but I'm going to have to ask you for a couple more pieces of
information.  First, I'd like to see what your machine says during
boot about the soundcard.  Unfortunately, you probably won't find
that info in /var/log/dmesg.  If you haven't already done so, go to
/etc/default, edit the file /etc/default/bootlogd, and give it a
line that says 

BOOTLOGD_ENABLE=Yes

This causes the non-kernel stuff that runs during the boot process
(the scripts in /etc/init.d) to *also* be logged (into /var/log/boot).
Then, after booting, go through the boot messages in /var/log/dmesg
and /var/log/boot and send along whatever it says about your soundcard,
soundcard drivers, etc.

Second, you said that "play" didn't work.  But can you elaborate?
Does it say *anything*?  Any error message or anything like that?
What happens if you take some .wav file and use cat to send it
directly to /dev/dsp, e.g. "cat foo.wav > /dev/dsp"?  Do you hear
anything then?

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Re: newb question: user switching in KDE?

2004-06-07 Thread Ralph Katz
On 06/07/04 20:00, Mal Beaton wrote:
Kent West wrote:
[...]
Then to switch between users, Ctrl-Alt-F7 to switch to the first 
session, Ctrl-Alt-F8 to the second, Ctrl-Alt-F9 to the third, etc.
[...]
Thanks for the idea. That is good. However I start the second session
ctl-alt-f2
login as another user
startx -- :1
starts fine
ctl=alt-f7 back to my first session
then I ctl-alt-f2 back to other session
it has crashed
no real (EE) showing.
Any ideas of what to look for

The X terminal you want to go back to is Ctrl-Alt-F8, as Ken said.  I 
know because I've made the same error.  For me, it was gdm not kdm, but 
same deal, I think.  (I'm no expert.)

Actually, now that I'm looking at how I launch the 2nd X session, it's a 
one line shell script:

DISPLAY=:1 startx -- :1
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Re: Website creating software

2004-06-07 Thread Nick Smith
> On Mon, 7 Jun 2004, Nick Smith wrote:
>
>> forget frontpage, what about a dreamweaver alternative?
>
> You might want to check out N-View, see http://www.nvu.com/ for more
> info. Haven't use it myself though, I am just too fond of vim and
> more recently the Template Toolkit.
>
> Grx HdV
>
>

wow that looks promising, hope they get that CSS update out soon i might
try it.
thanks for the link

nick

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USB keyboards and linux 2.6

2004-06-07 Thread csj
Does anybody have a link to a quick howto on getting USB
keyboards to work with kernel 2.6?  All my google searches on the
subject turn up links on kernel 2.4, which tend to list kernel
modules which aren't available on 2.6.  The "best" advice I've
gotten thus far is to disable the kernel's entire USB subsystem!
That is, let the BIOS handle the keyboard via legacy DOS support.


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Re: Increasing Screen Resolution

2004-06-07 Thread Lee Braiden
On Monday 07 Jun 2004 22:56, Robert Tilley wrote:
> I have dpkg-reconfigure'd xserver-xfree86, edited /etc/X11/XF86Config,
> edited /etc/X11/XF86Config-4, and experimented with KRandR.  The only mode
> that is still present is 1280x1024, however 1024x768 is still used. 
> Nothing I have done has changed this.
>
> Needless to say, I need help.  What can I do to increase
> my screen resolution to 1280x1024?

Bob,

You may need to check your monitor specifications, and set the monitor 
frequencies accordingly using dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86.  
dpkg-reconfigure asks you how simple you want questions about your monitor to 
be.  If you choose a more complex option, you'll get to alter frequencies, 
etc.

Sorry if this is badly explained.  I'm tired.  But I hope it helps :)

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Any workaround for 246350 -- tons of icon warnings -- anybody not getting it?

2004-06-07 Thread William Ballard
Is anybody *not* getting tons of icon warnings every time a KDE app is 
launched?  As reported in 246350?  With sid's kdelibs?

Is there a way workaround?  Or it just a "sid's broke, what do you want, 
it's sid" thing?


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Re: Website creating software

2004-06-07 Thread dking
Its better then frontpage output, even the newest version of it had 
html syntax errors.

On 7 Jun 2004 at 20:00, richard lyons wrote:

> On Monday 07 June 2004 11:56, Micha Feigin wrote:
> [...]
> > Doesn't mozilla also have an html editor?
> [...]
> 
> Have you _read_ any html produced by Mozilla?  I really do not think 
> you can recommend anyone to go that route.
> 
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Re: Website creating software

2004-06-07 Thread richard lyons
On Monday 07 June 2004 11:56, Micha Feigin wrote:
[...]
> Doesn't mozilla also have an html editor?
[...]

Have you _read_ any html produced by Mozilla?  I really do not think 
you can recommend anyone to go that route.

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Re: newb question: user switching in KDE?

2004-06-07 Thread Mal Beaton
Kent West wrote:
Ignatz Sol wrote:
I am a recent convert to Linux, running Debian sarge/testing with KDE
3.2.2.  I am interested in setting up some sort of user switching, so
that my wife can have her setup separate from mine.  I've been
especially inspired by the switching available in the new Mac OSX. Now 
I don't need anything fancy, and I've found a few references to
this (like this link, http://www.mepis.org/node/view/2083, though I
haven't been able to try it out yet).  Just want to be clear as to
what is the best way to facilitate this.  I will also need to be able
to switch with an icon or something similar to make it simple for my
wife.  Thanks for any help.

 

I don't know about an icon-based switch, but I've been using switching 
at my house for years.

After the first person is logged into X in the normal manner (startx, 
xdm, kdm, whatever), the second user can Ctrl-Alt-F2 to get to a 
console, log in there, and then start a second session of X with "startx 
-- :1". The third person can log in (Ctrl-Alt-F3) and start a third 
session with "startx -- :2", and so on.

You can even configure kdm to have a graphical login on each X session 
to make it easier, but I prefer the startx method myself.

Then to switch between users, Ctrl-Alt-F7 to switch to the first 
session, Ctrl-Alt-F8 to the second, Ctrl-Alt-F9 to the third, etc.

I don't know of any way to autolock the screen when leaving one screen, 
but a screensaver with a password might do for your needs (at my house, 
passwords aren't an issue).

Thanks for the idea. That is good. However I start the second session
ctl-alt-f2
login as another user
startx -- :1
starts fine
ctl=alt-f7 back to my first session
then I ctl-alt-f2 back to other session
it has crashed
no real (EE) showing.
Any ideas of what to look for

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Re: Website creating software

2004-06-07 Thread HdV
On Mon, 7 Jun 2004, Nick Smith wrote:

> forget frontpage, what about a dreamweaver alternative?

You might want to check out N-View, see http://www.nvu.com/ for more
info. Haven't use it myself though, I am just too fond of vim and
more recently the Template Toolkit.

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Re: Increasing Screen Resolution

2004-06-07 Thread Kent West
Robert Tilley wrote:
My screen resolution is currently 1024x768.  The desired resolution is 
1280x1024.

I have dpkg-reconfigure'd xserver-xfree86, edited /etc/X11/XF86Config, 
edited /etc/X11/XF86Config-4, and experimented with KRandR.  The only mode 
that is still present is 1280x1024, however 1024x768 is still used.  Nothing 
I have done has changed this.

Needless to say, I need help.  What can I do to increase 
my screen resolution to 1280x1024?

Bob, thanks!
 

I vaguely remember earlier in this thread you saying you had better 
resolution in RH or S.u.S.E. or something. I don't recall you mentioning 
what video chipset you have. It may be that you have something like an 
nVidia, and you're using the Free nv driver, when those other distros 
were using the proprietary nVidia driver. Or perhaps they were set to a 
lower color depth, allowing higher resolution?

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Re: newb question: user switching in KDE?

2004-06-07 Thread Kent West
Ignatz Sol wrote:
I am a recent convert to Linux, running Debian sarge/testing with KDE
3.2.2.  I am interested in setting up some sort of user switching, so
that my wife can have her setup separate from mine.  I've been
especially inspired by the switching available in the new Mac OSX. 
Now I don't need anything fancy, and I've found a few references to
this (like this link, http://www.mepis.org/node/view/2083, though I
haven't been able to try it out yet).  Just want to be clear as to
what is the best way to facilitate this.  I will also need to be able
to switch with an icon or something similar to make it simple for my
wife.  Thanks for any help.

 

I don't know about an icon-based switch, but I've been using switching 
at my house for years.

After the first person is logged into X in the normal manner (startx, 
xdm, kdm, whatever), the second user can Ctrl-Alt-F2 to get to a 
console, log in there, and then start a second session of X with "startx 
-- :1". The third person can log in (Ctrl-Alt-F3) and start a third 
session with "startx -- :2", and so on.

You can even configure kdm to have a graphical login on each X session 
to make it easier, but I prefer the startx method myself.

Then to switch between users, Ctrl-Alt-F7 to switch to the first 
session, Ctrl-Alt-F8 to the second, Ctrl-Alt-F9 to the third, etc.

I don't know of any way to autolock the screen when leaving one screen, 
but a screensaver with a password might do for your needs (at my house, 
passwords aren't an issue).

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Re: Need to get NFS and SMB installed and working.

2004-06-07 Thread Clive Menzies
On (07/06/04 18:59), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi,
> I asked earlier about getting the NFS server 
> running on my new Sarge install. I got no replies. 
> I have tried researching it myself but have not 
> found anything that explains it properly. Can 
> someone please help?
> 
> I need to be able to access the other machines on 
> my network.
A good place to start is:

http://hr.uoregon.edu/davidrl/samba.html

There is also a good nfs Howto in woody:
/usr/share/doc/HOWTO/en-txt/NFS_HOWTO.gz

FWIW I've installed both on three servers but I'm thinking of reverting
to just samba by making the Linux workstations samba clients.

Regards

Clive

> 
> 
> Should I be on another mailing list??
> 
> Thanks,

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RE: raidhotadd not working after reboot?!? *SOLVED*

2004-06-07 Thread Michael Kahle
On Thursday, June 03, 2004 4:59 PM, Michael Kahle wrote:
> Recently when starting my computer I was notified by the Adaptec
> SCSI BIOS that my disk ID #4 was not starting up.  This disk was
> failed.  This disk is part of the software raid array that I have
> setup on the machine.
>
> When the kernel booted it notified me that it could not see the disk
> and as a result my raid 5 array was in a failed state.  I shutdown
> the computer, replaced the drive with an identical one and proceeded
> to restart the computer.  The Adaptec SCSI BIOS noticed the drive and
> linux booted.  At this point the RAID 5 array was still in a failed
> state.
>
> In the console I typed the following:
> lsraid -R -p
>
> And got the following output:
> # md device [dev 9, 0] /dev/md0 queried online raiddev /dev/md0
> raid-level  5
> nr-raid-disks   5
> nr-spare-disks  0
> persistent-superblock   1
> chunk-size  32
> 
> device  /dev/sdb1
> raid-disk   0
> device  /dev/sdc1
> raid-disk   1
> device  /dev/sdd1
> raid-disk   2
> device  /dev/sde1
> raid-disk   3
> device  /dev/null
> failed-disk 4
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~#
>
> I then proceeded to run "raidhotadd /dev/md0 /dev/sdf1" after setting
> up the partition of /dev/sdf.  The program launched the process
> md0_resync.  After this completed I ran:
> lsraid -R -p
>
> And got the following output:
> # md device [dev 9, 0] /dev/md0 queried online raiddev /dev/md0
> raid-level  5
> nr-raid-disks   5
> nr-spare-disks  0
> persistent-superblock   1
> chunk-size  32
>
> device  /dev/sdb1
> raid-disk   0
> device  /dev/sdc1
> raid-disk   1
> device  /dev/sdd1
> raid-disk   2
> device  /dev/sde1
> raid-disk   3
> device  /dev/sdf1
> raid-disk   4
>
> So, it looks to me like everything worked OK.  That is until I
> reboot... then I get the same failed-disk report as shown on top!
> Weird.  Below is my syslog.  Sorry that I my post is so long, I
> thought it best to have more information than not enough.  
> 
> // Syslog


I thought I would follow up with this.  I have solved the problem.  It turns
out that the partition /dev/sdf1 was setup as an ext2 partition and not a
"RAID auto detect" partition.  I rebooted the computer.  Changed the
partition type.  Re-synced the RAID array.  Rebooted.  Now everything is
working as advertised.  Thanks for looking!

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Re: delete key doesn't work with csh in xterm session

2004-06-07 Thread Paul Scott
Lucas Albers wrote:
Bob Proulx said:
 

For users using /bin/csh and running rxvt-xterm, their delete key does
not
work.
Users running /bin/bash and running rxvt-xterm, their delete key does
work.
Both delete keys work on an ssh session.
 

I finally fixed the problem by defining in:
.Xdefaults
*deletekey: ^H
Seems like a hack, but it works.
The stty defines did not appear to make any difference.
 

Read these:
http://www.ibb.net/~anne/keyboard.html
BackspaceDelete mini HOWTO
Then consider changing the 'dch1' value in the terminfo for rxvt.
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Re: Lynx and xhtml

2004-06-07 Thread Thomas Dickey
Elimar Riesebieter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>> I'll look into that (and if a code-change is needed, add it to dev.5).

> Would be great :-)))

Since you're running 2.8.6dev.4, it sounds like you built it yourself.
The fix is a one-liner to src/HTInit.c, adding this

SET_INTERNL("application/xhtml+xml", "www/present", HTMLPresent, 2.0);

e.g., after

SET_INTERNL("application/html", "www/present", HTMLPresent, 2.0);

though the order doesn't matter.

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Increasing Screen Resolution

2004-06-07 Thread Robert Tilley
My screen resolution is currently 1024x768.  The desired resolution is 
1280x1024.

I have dpkg-reconfigure'd xserver-xfree86, edited /etc/X11/XF86Config, 
edited /etc/X11/XF86Config-4, and experimented with KRandR.  The only mode 
that is still present is 1280x1024, however 1024x768 is still used.  Nothing 
I have done has changed this.

Needless to say, I need help.  What can I do to increase 
my screen resolution to 1280x1024?

Bob, thanks!
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Re: delete key doesn't work with csh in xterm session

2004-06-07 Thread Lucas Albers
Bob Proulx said:
>> For users using /bin/csh and running rxvt-xterm, their delete key does
>> not
>> work.
>> Users running /bin/bash and running rxvt-xterm, their delete key does
>> work.
>>
>> Both delete keys work on an ssh session.
>
> When you say it does not work do you mean it prints out ^H or ^? or
> something like that?  If yes then which one is it?  Here is what you
> need to know if that is the problem.

Doesn't print anything.
Bob,
Thanks for the information.
I finally fixed the problem by defining in:
.Xdefaults
*deletekey: ^H

Seems like a hack, but it works.
The stty defines did not appear to make any difference.

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Re: Changing Default Display Mgr

2004-06-07 Thread igor_abrahao

Taubaté, SP Brasil.
 
Hi, edit the file /etc/X11/default-display-manager, change the line:
 
/usr/bin/
 
put your display manager where is 
 
Regards, 
 
Igor
 
 
 
> > "apt-get install kde kdm"
> > If kdm is already installed, then do "dpkg-reconfigure kdm".
> > Select "kdm" as your default display manager. (If it doesn't take, try
> > again, select one of the other managers, then repeat the process a final
> > time and select kdm.)
> >
> > If kdm doesn't start, either reboot or "/etc/init.d/kdm start", then at
> > the login screen make sure KDE is your window manager before logging in.
> This does not work... I hav gdm and xdm installed, I always see the lines
> starting kdm 
> starting gdm (gdm not default manager)
> starting xdm (xdm not default manager)
> and thats all, then I have to login on the console. When I make a 
> dpk-reconfigure kdm, and I change gdm, then really strange things happen. But 
> ok, thats nonsense.
> 
> Then I uninstalled xdm and gdm, but still I have to login on console and call 
> startx manually. 
> 
> Maybe I should write the package maintainer of the kde package? Something 
> seems to be wrong with that kde script (?)
> 
 

Re: moving apt's cache [Success]

2004-06-07 Thread Ross Boylan
I'm happy to report that simply by 
  1) removing the cache setting of
 /usr/var/cache/apt
 from apt.conf and 
  2) moving the corresponding directory back to its
 default location (/var/cache/apt)
everything worked.


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Re: /cdrom & /cdrom0

2004-06-07 Thread igor_abrahao



Hi, I had the same trouble and the reason was a command called discover.
So, as you did, I removed the cdrom0 and cdrom1 (in my case), then I removed 
the symbolik link /dev/cdrom and /dev/cdrom[0-1], so I created the link /dev/cdrom 
and /dev/cdrw(I prefer to use it) like I use in my /etc/fstab to mount my cdroms.
 
Igor Abrahão
 
Taubaté, SP Brasil
 
> 
> >Hi,
> >
> >I just installed testing from the beta 4 netinstall cd, on three machines and it is by far the best installation I have done, the hardware recognition made the whole thing a piece of cake.
> >
> >I am curious about one thing though. The install creates two directories as mount points /floppy, /cdrom and cdrom0. Now I have read the FHS and I know that this kind of media should be now mounted in /media/floppy and /media/cdrom, and I see that Testing does create these mount points. 
> >
> >Anyway I deleted what I took to be the surplus /floppy, /cdrom and /cdrom0 and removed references to them from the /etc/fstab.
> >
> >I rebooted the machine and was a little surprised to see that although /floppy stayed gone, /cdrom and /cdrom0 had both returned. 
> >
> >Why are they there? Why do they keep coming back after I zap them
> >
> >Keith.

Re: lWebsite creating software

2004-06-07 Thread H. S.
Apparently, _richard lyons_, on 06/07/04 04:37,typed:
knowing or writing html -- a wysiwyg editor.  Mozilla writes crap 
html. 
Could you expand on this issue? I have used Mozilla composer and apart 
from tweaking its code a bit (stuff related to CSS), I haven't had any 
major problmes. I would like to know its short comings so that I may 
consider changing over to ... quanta? or amaya? or something else.

Thanks,
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Re: slow cd burning

2004-06-07 Thread steef van duin
Rodney D. Myers wrote:
On Sun, 06 Jun 2004 17:53:12 -0400
Roberto Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 

Christian Christmann wrote:
   

Hi,
on my Debian box I'm running the kernel 2.6.6.
I've read somewhere that the kernel 2.6 doesn't need
the SCSI-emulation for IDE-burner anymore and thus
I disabled this option while compiling the kernel.
Now burning CDs is running very slowly. Even if I tell
Xcdroast to burn with 16x, the speed goes down to less
than 2x.
And ideas how to solve this problem?
Thanks,
Chris
 

I had a problem similar to that and also encountered
occasional lock ups.  The solution was to DISABLE
DMA on my CD burner.  Not sure what the issue is, but
that was the solution.
-Roberto Sanchez
   

Don't know that I have or had DMA tuend on, but I point k3b & XCDRoast
to my cdroms directly /dev/hdc & /dev/hdd, and I've had no problems in
the past few weeks, since debian came out with a 2.6.* kernel
 

you might try burning with cdrecord. on sarge with a 2.4.x kernel 
cdrecord works excellent if you tell cdrecord to burn with  

cdrecord dev=ATAPI -scanbus

steef
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Re: how to make a2ps -P display in Sid work

2004-06-07 Thread William Ballard
On Mon, Jun 07, 2004 at 11:08:59AM -0400, David Sanders wrote:
> On Monday 07 June 2004 01:36 am, TB wrote:
> > Per advice on [EMAIL PROTECTED], to enable the 'display' printer in a2ps
[snip]
> > What else do I need to do?
> Also uncomment:
> Variable: ghostview gv -antialias -arguments -dNOPLATFONTS

Thanks!  I guess I'll copy paste these two lines into a2ps-site.cfg, 
which is the recommended practice.  Why are they disabled by default?

I've had a2ps on hold at 4.13b-20.1 ever since the major update last 
fall that broke libpaper, but it looks like it's back.  Are there any 
other "gotchas" I should be aware of?


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Re: hostname

2004-06-07 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Sun, Jun 06, 2004 at 04:18:36PM -0400, Tom Allison wrote:
 
> IMHO it would be far better if all this domain/name "stuff" was sunk 
> into one file and left there.  scattering it creates multiple points 
> where the same data must reside.  A fundamentally bad idea.

Yup- part of the legacy of the UNIX that is being cloned. This is one
thing that plan9 has fixed.

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Re: hostname

2004-06-07 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Sun, Jun 06, 2004 at 12:44:39PM -0600, Bob Proulx wrote:
 
> I won't even suggest running /etc/init.d/hostname.sh without rebooting
> in this case.  There is too much baggage to recommend restarting
> everything that needs it.  All of the mail daemons.  Possibly
> networking.  Possibly many things.  Simpler to reboot after changing
> something fundamental like the kernel or the hostname.

Well, the maximum number of things which need it are those that are
running.. a simple runlevel change would do it; or just restart the
various networking things. On a desktop that would probably be very
few: inetd and exim most likely.

> Because it is so complicated to get right and so different between
> distros there is no single command to run to change the hostname.
> There might be, there could be, but there isn't.  It is too easy to
> edit /etc/hostname.

I'll tell you what sucks, trying to change the domain name.


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newb question: user switching in KDE?

2004-06-07 Thread Ignatz Sol
I am a recent convert to Linux, running Debian sarge/testing with KDE
3.2.2.  I am interested in setting up some sort of user switching, so
that my wife can have her setup separate from mine.  I've been
especially inspired by the switching available in the new Mac OSX. 
Now I don't need anything fancy, and I've found a few references to
this (like this link, http://www.mepis.org/node/view/2083, though I
haven't been able to try it out yet).  Just want to be clear as to
what is the best way to facilitate this.  I will also need to be able
to switch with an icon or something similar to make it simple for my
wife.  Thanks for any help.


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Re: Lynx and xhtml

2004-06-07 Thread Elimar Riesebieter
On Mon, 07 Jun 2004 the mental interface of
Thomas Dickey told:

> Daved Daly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > It just doesnt know what to do with:
> 
> > Content-Type: application/xhtml+xml
> 
> > that their webserver is sending the file as.
> 
> > I wasnt able to figure out quickly how to make it do so.
> 
> I'll look into that (and if a code-change is needed, add it to dev.5).

Would be great :-)))

Ciao

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Re: Shockwave flash plugin

2004-06-07 Thread Greg Folkert
On Mon, 2004-06-07 at 15:41, Pedro M. (Morphix User) wrote:
> When trying to install Macromedia Flash Player ( in the free version 
> from sourceforce,  doesn't work the links
> 
> gzip:stdin: not in gzip format.
> 
> /usr/sbin/update-flashplugin:221: in  `chdir': No such file or directory 
> /temp/flashupdater1363.o/install_flash_player_6_linux (Error:  ENOENT).

apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree

That will do it for you.
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Re: Lynx and xhtml

2004-06-07 Thread Thomas Dickey
Daved Daly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It just doesnt know what to do with:

> Content-Type: application/xhtml+xml

> that their webserver is sending the file as.

> I wasnt able to figure out quickly how to make it do so.

I'll look into that (and if a code-change is needed, add it to dev.5).

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Re: /usr/src/linux/include/linux/version.h for 2.6.5 kernel?

2004-06-07 Thread CW Harris
On Mon, Jun 07, 2004 at 08:47:59PM +0200, LeVA wrote:
> 2004. j?nius 7. 20:13 d?tummal Ishwar Rattan ezt ?rta:
> > I am running kernel-2.6.5 Debian testing system. I am trying to
> > compile Mplayer-1.0pre4. The complilation stops with a complaint
> > about linux/version.h include not being there. I looked in dir
> > /usr/src/linux-2.6.5/include/linux/ and the file does not exit. Where
> > can I get this file (or it is now obsolete)??
> >
> > -ishwar
> compile the kernel and there will the version file
> 
> hth,
> 
> Daniel
> 

There was also a thread a short while back that sounds similar. See:

http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2004/04/msg09460.html

Maybe you are running into this problem?


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Re: help with python bug

2004-06-07 Thread Faheem Mitha


On Sat, 5 Jun 2004, John Hasler wrote:

> Faheem Mitha writes:
> > Can anyone help me with a seemingly Debian-specific Python bug, Debian
> > bug no. 252517 (see
> > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=252517 )
>
> > Firstly, can anyone reproduce the problem on Sarge or unstable?
>
> I cannot reproduce it on Unstable.

Thank you for taking a look. Hmm, this is puzzling. I'll try this out on a
test sid installation and see what happens.

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Need to get NFS and SMB installed and working.

2004-06-07 Thread res0nid7
Hi,
I asked earlier about getting the NFS server 
running on my new Sarge install. I got no replies. 
I have tried researching it myself but have not 
found anything that explains it properly. Can 
someone please help?

I need to be able to access the other machines on 
my network.


Should I be on another mailing list??

Thanks,


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Re: Lynx and xhtml

2004-06-07 Thread Daved Daly
It just doesnt know what to do with:

Content-Type: application/xhtml+xml

that their webserver is sending the file as.

I wasnt able to figure out quickly how to make it do so.

On Mon, 7 Jun 2004 20:17:20 +0200, Elimar Riesebieter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 07 Jun 2004 the mental interface of
> Thomas Dickey told:
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> > Elimar Riesebieter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi all,
> >
> > > how do you view xhtml sites with lynx? i.e.
> >
> > lynx views html - that's not html...
> > 
> $ wget http://necrotic.deadbeast.net/xsf/XFree86/NEWS.xhtml
> $ lynx NEWS.xhtml
> works fine!
> 
> So why not directly from the net?
> 
> Elimar
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Re: /usr/src/linux/include/linux/version.h for 2.6.5 kernel?

2004-06-07 Thread LeVA
2004. június 7. 20:13 dátummal Ishwar Rattan ezt írta:
> I am running kernel-2.6.5 Debian testing system. I am trying to
> compile Mplayer-1.0pre4. The complilation stops with a complaint
> about linux/version.h include not being there. I looked in dir
> /usr/src/linux-2.6.5/include/linux/ and the file does not exit. Where
> can I get this file (or it is now obsolete)??
>
> -ishwar
compile the kernel and there will the version file

hth,

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Can we have your vote for our Miss Marieke for the Miss Belgium Contest ?

2004-06-07 Thread Mariekes Fan Club
Dear,

We apologize for our unsolicited email.  We represent the fanclub of our own Marieke, 
who is starting the preselection for Miss Belgium 2004.

Though beauty and intelligence are important, the organisation organized also a 
webpoll. So we are creative and ask you if you would vote for our Marieke on 
http://www.exposed.be/cgi-bin/webvotingoost/rankem.cgi?id=oost10
There are no popups or banners, just the click on the link "enter" is enough, and she 
has your vote !

We thank You in advance, a virtual kiss from her !!

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Re: A bit OT: GPRS connection problems

2004-06-07 Thread Joerg Rossdeutscher
Hi,

Maybe it won't help you - but yesterday it took me half a day to bring a
Mac OS X machine online via GPRS, and my problem was I had to deactivate
a "PPP-Compression" that was activated by default. 

Am Mo, den 07.06.2004 um 10:34 Uhr -0600 schrieb s. keeling:
> sent [IPCP ConfReq id=0x1  ]

Maybe you could have a look at some docs what this option "compress"
means. Maybe its the same Problem, since Mac OS X is kind of unix.

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Re: Lynx and xhtml

2004-06-07 Thread Elimar Riesebieter
On Mon, 07 Jun 2004 the mental interface of
Daved Daly told:

> You might try looking into "links"
> 
> http://links.sourceforge.net/
> 
> It's simliar to lynx but has a little more feature support.
> 
> I have no idea if any debian packages for it exist or if you'd have to
> build it yourself... and if it would help do what you want anyways
> tho.
I know.
$ apt-cache search links | grep "^links"
links - Character mode WWW browser
links-ssl - Character mode WWW browser with SSL

But at the Moment I prefer lynx!

Ciao

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Re: Lynx and xhtml

2004-06-07 Thread Elimar Riesebieter
On Mon, 07 Jun 2004 the mental interface of
Thomas Dickey told:

> Elimar Riesebieter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Hi all,
> 
> > how do you view xhtml sites with lynx? i.e.
> 
> lynx views html - that's not html...
> 
$ wget http://necrotic.deadbeast.net/xsf/XFree86/NEWS.xhtml
$ lynx NEWS.xhtml
works fine!

So why not directly from the net?

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/usr/src/linux/include/linux/version.h for 2.6.5 kernel?

2004-06-07 Thread Ishwar Rattan

I am running kernel-2.6.5 Debian testing system. I am trying to
compile Mplayer-1.0pre4. The complilation stops with a complaint about
linux/version.h include not being there. I looked in dir
/usr/src/linux-2.6.5/include/linux/ and the file does not exit. Where
can I get this file (or it is now obsolete)??

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Re: Lynx and xhtml

2004-06-07 Thread Thomas Dickey
On Mon, Jun 07, 2004 at 11:08:57AM -0700, Daved Daly wrote:
> You might try looking into "links"
> 
> http://links.sourceforge.net/

I recall comparing lynx, w3m and links recently on a non-html file.
links didn't do anything with it; lynx and w3m offered to download.


The current version of lynx is 2.8.5

It's available at
ftp://lynx.isc.org/lynx/lynx2.8.5/
2.8.6 Development & patches:
http://lynx.isc.org/current/index.html

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Re: Lynx and xhtml

2004-06-07 Thread Daved Daly
You might try looking into "links"

http://links.sourceforge.net/

It's simliar to lynx but has a little more feature support.

I have no idea if any debian packages for it exist or if you'd have to
build it yourself... and if it would help do what you want anyways
tho.

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> Elimar Riesebieter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Hi all,
> 
> > how do you view xhtml sites with lynx? i.e.
> 
> lynx views html - that's not html...
> 
> > http://necrotic.deadbeast.net/xsf/XFree86/NEWS.xhtml
> 
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Re: Shockwave flash plugin

2004-06-07 Thread Pedro M. (Morphix User)
Pedro M. (Morphix User) escribió:
When trying to install Macromedia Flash Player ( in the free version 
from sourceforce,  doesn't work the links

gzip:stdin: not in gzip format.
/usr/sbin/update-flashplugin:221: in  `chdir': No such file or 
directory /temp/flashupdater1363.o/install_flash_player_6_linux 
(Error:  ENOENT).

:(
Regards

I could finally install it wouthout problems downloading the installer 
directly from Macromedia

See http://wiki.debian.net/index.cgi?FlashPlayer
and executing it in a text terminal.
But, I have more problem with Mozilla. I cannot click (they are 
disabled)  in the links in http://www.mtas.es/insht

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Re: Software to create 3D buttons for use on web pages, etc

2004-06-07 Thread Micha Feigin
On Mon, Jun 07, 2004 at 11:18:12AM +, Simon L wrote:
> Kevin Murphy wrote:
> 
> >I'm interested in creating 3D-buttons, ideally with a rounded, 
> >ray-traced look.
> >
> >Anybody have any advice?
> >
> >I am hoping that someone has scripted one of the major graphics 
> >programs to help automate this process.  I.e. it seems that it should 
> >not be too difficult to have a front-end script offer relatively 
> >simple choices for shape, surface texture, transparency, size, color, 
> >font, text, lighting sources and then feed commands to a ray-tracing 
> >program.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Kevin Murphy
> >
> >
> In "The GIMP", you have some scripts that can do buttons. Just go in the 
> "Xtns" menu and in "Script-Fu".
> 

Also google around, there are quite a few tutorials on creating nice
graphical buttons. You don't need a 3d program, just a few shading
tricks. (maybe a pinching filter to give a 3d effect to the text).

Take a look for example at:
http://www.kci.net/~jesse/gimp/tutorials/buttons/
http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/3d_Logo/

More tutorials at:
http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/

Also for some basic 3d buttons created online take a look at:
http://www.cooltext.com/

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Re: Dear Debian Maintainers (usability)

2004-06-07 Thread Micha Feigin
On Mon, Jun 07, 2004 at 04:47:56PM +0200, J. Preiss wrote:
> It is great what you are doing. But the usability of debian itself... I get 
> the feeling that I'm too stupid to use it. 
> I do understand the installation stuff with apt-get, ok. If the package 
> configures itself, it may works. But when I have to use dpk-reconfigure, I 
> always wonder what the correct package cpuld be. And if I have an answer from 
> the debian list, it only works partially. 

dpgk-reconfigure is only required if you want to reconfigure a
package. Packages remember the initial configurations so you need to
configure them on upgrade only if a configuration option changed.

> Example:
> dpkg-reconfigure locales. I can select [EMAIL PROTECTED], I can select this as 
> default. Additionally I have selected all DE-sets and all RU-sets. At the end 
> I have locales generated...l and my keyboard layout is english :-( (in text 

Locales have nothing to do with the keyboard. They control how things
are displayed on screen. I don't know how to change keyboard in the
console (I think console-tools or something like that), in X its in the
XF86Config-4 file, using a variety of graphical configurators (very
little experience with them I'm afraid), or using the gnome/kde
keyboard switchers. Tell me what you want to set and we'll find out how.

> mode, X didn't want to start).

Where does X fail and what version? hopefully we can help you start it
up.

> Another thing is the network. Until now I dont know how to change from dhcp to 
> static ip. Maybe I should rtfm, thats true, but on the other side: shouldnt 
> it be as easy as clicking a button and enter the IP? It does not have to be 
> graphical with buttons, but a small menu would be great.
> 

IIRC the installation process allows you to set that. Otherwise the
settings are in /etc/network/interfaces. I am sure that there is a gui
that does that but don't know any.

> I hope the new installer will care about these problems. I dont want to change 
> back to suse. I dont want to pay just because of new kernel / new kde / new 
> version of  

All these exist in unstable (and its not as unstable as its sounds. I am
also using a lot of stuff even from experimental and the system is very
stable).

The new things will never be in stable (maybe except for the couple of
months following release until they get updated).

suse is mostly comparable the unstable not to stable.

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Shockwave flash plugin

2004-06-07 Thread Pedro M. (Morphix User)
When trying to install Macromedia Flash Player ( in the free version 
from sourceforce,  doesn't work the links

gzip:stdin: not in gzip format.
/usr/sbin/update-flashplugin:221: in  `chdir': No such file or directory 
/temp/flashupdater1363.o/install_flash_player_6_linux (Error:  ENOENT).

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Can we have your vote for our Miss Marieke for the Miss Belgium Contest ?

2004-06-07 Thread Mariekes Fan Club
Dear,

We apologize for our unsollicated email.  We represent the fanclub of our own Marieke, 
who is starting the preselection for Miss Belgium 2004.

Though beautiness and intelligence are important, the organisation organized also a 
webpoll. So we are creative and ask you if you would vote for our Marieke on 
http://www.exposed.be/cgi-bin/webvotingoost/rankem.cgi?id=oost10
There are no popups or banners, just the click on the link "enter" is enough, and she 
has your vote !

We thank You in advance, a virtual kiss from her !!

The Fan Club of Miss Marieke


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Can we have your vote for our Miss Marieke for the Miss Belgium Contest ?

2004-06-07 Thread Mariekes Fan Club
Dear,

We apologize for our unsollicated email.  We represent the fanclub of our own Marieke, 
who is starting the preselection for Miss Belgium 2004.

Though beautiness and intelligence are important, the organisation organized also a 
webpoll. So we are creative and ask you if you would vote for our Marieke on 
http://www.exposed.be/cgi-bin/webvotingoost/rankem.cgi?id=oost10
There are no popups or banners, just the click on the link "enter" is enough, and she 
has your vote !

We thank You in advance, a virtual kiss from her !!

The Fan Club of Miss Marieke


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Re: Changing Default Display Mgr

2004-06-07 Thread Kent West
On (07/06/04 16:09), J. Preiss wrote:
"apt-get install kde kdm"
If kdm is already installed, then do "dpkg-reconfigure kdm".
Select "kdm" as your default display manager. (If it doesn't take, try
again, select one of the other managers, then repeat the process a final
time and select kdm.)
If kdm doesn't start, either reboot or "/etc/init.d/kdm start", then at
the login screen make sure KDE is your window manager before logging in.
 

This does not work... I hav gdm and xdm installed, I always see the lines
 starting kdm 
 starting gdm (gdm not default manager)
 starting xdm (xdm not default manager)
and thats all, then I have to login on the console. When I make a 
dpk-reconfigure kdm, and I change gdm, then really strange things happen. But 
ok, thats nonsense.
   

From another post, I believe X does start with "startx", right?
So I'd "apt-get --purge remove kdm" to clear out any corrupt kdm-related 
files, then reinstall it with "apt-get install kdm".

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Re: Dear Debian Maintainers (usability)

2004-06-07 Thread J. Preiss
Thank you for these guidelines.
I just wanted to mention how difficult it is to have all these commands in 
mind. At least for a beginner.

Am Montag, 7. Juni 2004 17:17 schrieb Andreas Janssen:
> Hello
>
> J. Preiss (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:
> > dpkg-reconfigure locales. I can select [EMAIL PROTECTED], I can select this
> > as default. Additionally I have selected all DE-sets and all RU-sets.
> > At the end I have locales generated...l and my keyboard layout is
> > english :-(
>
> dpkg-reconfigure console-common
>
> > (in text mode, X didn't want to start).
>
> Check the log file (/var/lof/XFree86.0.log). Look for lines beginning
> with (EE).
>
> > Another thing is the network. Until now I dont know how to change from
> > dhcp to static ip.
>
> man interfaces
> apt-get install etherconf
> dpkg-reconfigure etherconf
>
> best regards
> Andreas Janssen
>
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Re: Multimedia Optimisation

2004-06-07 Thread Simon L
Chris Metzler wrote:
On Mon, 07 Jun 2004 12:15:14 +
Simon L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 

Now I am all :S
It wrote 362.600 FPS so I said to myself "how come". I ran "Tuxracer" 
and now it works...
I don't know what happened, I don't know what I did, but now it works. 3

Hours before it didn't worked and now it works...
If only I knew what happened.
   

Had you rrestarted X in any way (including rebooting; or shutting down X
and going to the console, then restarting it later; or logging out and
logging back in through a display manager) during that time?  I've found
the odd case that sometimes DRI doesn't come up properly, and restarting
X makes it work.  I hate that that happens, but it does happen.
-c

 

When I received the first answer, I checked my XF86Config-4 file and saw 
that my display driver was "ati" so I switched it to "radeon" then 
rebooted. I tried Tux and it didn't work. After that, I never restarted 
and I only ran the tests programs you asked

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Re: A bit OT: GPRS connection problems

2004-06-07 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Vittorio:
> I'm trying to connect my debian-testing portable PC to my GPRS provider via a 
> serial pcmcia card. To no avail!
> 
> This is my GPRS-provider /etc/ppp/peers/gprs 
> 
> noauth
> connect "/usr/sbin/chat -v -f /etc/chatscripts/gprs"
> debug
> /dev/ttyS1
> 115200
> defaultroute
> noipdefault 
> usepeerdns
> nobsdcomp
> 
> After issuing "pon gprs" command this invariably connects and immediatedly 
> hangs up according to the following log (I can hardly read!): 

   i) Note the "sent" and "rcvd"

  ii) ConfAck  -  Configuration Acknowledgment
  EchoReq  -  Echo Request
  AuthReq  -  Authorization Request
  AuthAck  -  Authorization Ack.
  LCP  -  Link Control Protocol
  PAP  -  PAP & CHAP are security schemes
  ConfReq  -  Configuration Request
  ProtRej  -  Protocol Reject

> 
> Jun  7 19:04:45 woody pppd[2367]: rcvd [LCP ConfAck id=0x1  
>   ]
> Jun  7 19:04:45 woody pppd[2367]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0x0 magic=0x19d42627]
> Jun  7 19:04:45 woody pppd[2367]: sent [PAP AuthReq id=0x1 user="woody" 
> password=]
> Jun  7 19:04:45 woody pppd[2367]: rcvd [LCP EchoRep id=0x0 magic=0x19d42627]
> Jun  7 19:04:45 woody pppd[2367]: appear to have received our own echo-reply!
^^^

?!?

> Jun  7 19:04:45 woody pppd[2367]: rcvd [PAP AuthAck id=0x1 "TTP Com PPP - 
> Password Verified OK"]
> Jun  7 19:04:45 woody pppd[2367]: Remote message: TTP Com PPP - Password 
> Verified OK
> Jun  7 19:04:45 woody pppd[2367]: PAP authentication succeeded

Woohoo!

> Jun  7 19:04:45 woody pppd[2367]: sent [CCP ConfReq id=0x1  
> ]
> Jun  7 19:04:45 woody pppd[2367]: sent [IPCP ConfReq id=0x1  01> ]
...

Eh?!?

> Jun  7 19:04:45 woody pppd[2367]: rcvd [LCP ProtRej id=0xb 80 fd 01 01 00 0c 
> 1a 04 78 00 18 04 78 00 35]

Eh?  Maybe comment out "nobsdcomp"?


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Re: Multimedia Optimisation

2004-06-07 Thread Chris Metzler
On Mon, 07 Jun 2004 12:15:14 +
Simon L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Now I am all :S
> It wrote 362.600 FPS so I said to myself "how come". I ran "Tuxracer" 
> and now it works...
> I don't know what happened, I don't know what I did, but now it works. 3
> 
> Hours before it didn't worked and now it works...
> If only I knew what happened.

Had you rrestarted X in any way (including rebooting; or shutting down X
and going to the console, then restarting it later; or logging out and
logging back in through a display manager) during that time?  I've found
the odd case that sometimes DRI doesn't come up properly, and restarting
X makes it work.  I hate that that happens, but it does happen.

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Re: trouble installing kde

2004-06-07 Thread Kent West
J. Preiss wrote:
Hi all,
currently it seems that I have a similar problem: I wanted to have kdm as 
display manager (please! no hints aboutdisplay and windowmanagers, ok?). I 
selected it with dpkg-reconfigure kdm... and it does not work. I only can 
start kde by calling startx, not as runlevel default login. Is this a bug? 
When I call dpkg-reconfigure kdm and select gdm, startkde tells me lots of 
errors about the missing display. but anyway, I wanted kdm :-)

 

I'm a little confused about what you've said above, so if I'm covering 
old ground, my apologies.

Install kdm (such as with "apt-get install kdm").
Select kdm (the above step should have asked, or you can run 
"dpkg-reconfigure kdm"; sometimes I've found that you have to select a 
different display manager, such as gdm, then rerun the command again and 
select kdm).

Start kdm (either by rebooting, or by running "/etc/init.d/kdm start").
If that does not work, we'll need more precise error messages about what 
went wrong when and where.

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Re: Re: .bash_profile problems under gnome

2004-06-07 Thread Adam Siepel
> I had this problem for months with one box.  
...
> Perhaps yours is that easy too.

nope, the shell is set correctly.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] acs]$ grep acs /etc/passwd
acs:x:1000:1000:Adam Siepel,,,:/home/acs:/bin/bash

> Make sure your ~/.xsession file is executable.
> 
>   chmod a+x ~/.xsession
> 
> Otherwise it won't be executed.  It will be run 'sh .xsession' which
> uses /bin/sh regardless of your normal shell and it won't be a login
> shell.

permissions look good.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] acs]$ ls -l ~/.xsession
-rwx--1 acs  acs60 Jun  7 08:59 /home/acs/.xsession*


I must be missing something here.  If the .xsession is executed, rather
than sourced, why would the environment be inherited anyway?  

[EMAIL PROTECTED] acs]$ cat .xsession
#!/bin/sh
 
export XSESSION_READ=true
source ~/.bash_profile
[EMAIL PROTECTED] acs]$ sh .xsession
[EMAIL PROTECTED] acs]$ echo $XSESSION_READ
 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] acs]$ source .xsession
[EMAIL PROTECTED] acs]$ echo $XSESSION_READ
true

Do I need to explicitly start my window manager in .xsession so it's a
subprocess?  I guess it's currently getting started somewhere else...

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Re: Re: .bash_profile problems under gnome

2004-06-07 Thread Bob Proulx
Adam Siepel wrote:
> permissions look good.
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] acs]$ ls -l ~/.xsession
> -rwx--1 acs  acs60 Jun  7 08:59 /home/acs/.xsession*

Seems reasonable enough.  I am not that restrictive myself.  (But
people at work want to be able to copy my files.  :-)

> I must be missing something here.  If the .xsession is executed, rather
> than sourced, why would the environment be inherited anyway?  

The environment is inherited by the children of a process.  If it is
run with /bin/sh then it won't be a login shell and it won't read your
.profile or .bash_profile.  So it won't get your custom environment.

As '#!/bin/bash --login' the bash will be told it is a login shell.
It will read your ~/.bash_profile.  When *that particular bash* starts
up the window manager that window manager will be a child and will
inherit the environment.

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] acs]$ cat .xsession
> #!/bin/sh
>  
> export XSESSION_READ=true
> source ~/.bash_profile

That is invalid syntax for a /bin/sh shell.  The /bin/sh shell is a
POSIX shell.  There are several valid candidates.  One is bash and in
that case (which is what you are undoubted seeing) it will work.
(Almost.  Not if you source bash_completion in your profile.)  But if
you replace /bin/sh with one of the other candidates then it will
probably not work since 'source' is not a valid syntax.  And also you
may have bash specific syntax in your .bash_profile which a posix
shell won't parse the same as bash.

Most importantly you are not starting up a window manager there!?
Which is the whole point of the ~/.xsession file.  You may find
reading through the default startup scripts /etc/X11/Xsession* useful
to understand this process.  The very last line is 'exec $STARTUP'.
The 'exec' overlays and replaces the current process with the new
one.  That new process will inherit the environment of the parent
process.

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] acs]$ sh .xsession
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] acs]$ echo $XSESSION_READ
>  
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] acs]$ source .xsession
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] acs]$ echo $XSESSION_READ
> true
> 
> Do I need to explicitly start my window manager in .xsession so it's a
> subprocess?  I guess it's currently getting started somewhere else...

Yes!  Exactly!

Assuming bash, here is one example ~/.xsession.

  #!/bin/bash --login
  exec x-session-manager  # or fvwm or startkde or gnome or whatever

This way the window manager is a child of #!/bin/bash, which read your
~/.bash_profile, set your variables, then started up your window
manager.  It must be executable or the #!/bin/bash is only a comment.

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Re: Lynx and xhtml

2004-06-07 Thread Thomas Dickey
Elimar Riesebieter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi all,

> how do you view xhtml sites with lynx? i.e.

lynx views html - that's not html...

> http://necrotic.deadbeast.net/xsf/XFree86/NEWS.xhtml

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A bit OT: GPRS connection problems

2004-06-07 Thread Vittorio
I'm trying to connect my debian-testing portable PC to my GPRS provider via a 
serial pcmcia card. To no avail!

This is my GPRS-provider /etc/ppp/peers/gprs 

noauth
connect "/usr/sbin/chat -v -f /etc/chatscripts/gprs"
debug
/dev/ttyS1
115200
defaultroute
noipdefault 
usepeerdns
nobsdcomp
---

After issuing "pon gprs" command this invariably connects and immediatedly 
hangs up according to the following log (I can hardly read!): 

Jun  7 19:04:45 woody pppd[2367]: rcvd [LCP ConfAck id=0x1  
  ]
Jun  7 19:04:45 woody pppd[2367]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0x0 magic=0x19d42627]
Jun  7 19:04:45 woody pppd[2367]: sent [PAP AuthReq id=0x1 user="woody" 
password=]
Jun  7 19:04:45 woody pppd[2367]: rcvd [LCP EchoRep id=0x0 magic=0x19d42627]
Jun  7 19:04:45 woody pppd[2367]: appear to have received our own echo-reply!
Jun  7 19:04:45 woody pppd[2367]: rcvd [PAP AuthAck id=0x1 "TTP Com PPP - 
Password Verified OK"]
Jun  7 19:04:45 woody pppd[2367]: Remote message: TTP Com PPP - Password 
Verified OK
Jun  7 19:04:45 woody pppd[2367]: PAP authentication succeeded
Jun  7 19:04:45 woody pppd[2367]: sent [CCP ConfReq id=0x1  
]
Jun  7 19:04:45 woody pppd[2367]: sent [IPCP ConfReq id=0x1  ]
Jun  7 19:04:45 woody pppd[2367]: rcvd [LCP ProtRej id=0xb 80 fd 01 01 00 0c 
1a 04 78 00 18 04 78 00 35]
Jun  7 19:04:46 woody pppd[2367]: Hangup (SIGHUP)
Jun  7 19:04:46 woody pppd[2367]: Modem hangup
Jun  7 19:04:46 woody pppd[2367]: Connection terminated.
Jun  7 19:04:47 woody pppd[2367]: Exit.
...

In your opinion what's going on and what should I do?


Ciao
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Re: Website creating software

2004-06-07 Thread Steve Lamb
Micha Feigin wrote:
> BTW I also use vi/emacs for web work, gives you much more control and
> you know exactly what is in there and where to fix things.

Ok, now it's getting thick around here.  I love vim as much as the next
guy but, at least in the case of Dreamweaver, you know exactly what's in
there.  They give WYSIWYG and code views.  They have since the very first
version.  My only gripe is I wish the code view were a vim object.  :P

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Re: charset of ext3 drives

2004-06-07 Thread Nicos Gollan
On Mon, 7 Jun 2004 16:26:17 +0200
"J. Preiss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I am at the point that cyrillic chars are always -displays (in
> text mode) and glyphs in graphic mode (konqueror). I changed the
> charset of konqi to utf8 without any change. Am I too stupid to use
> debian? Maybe...

Well, depending on what encoding the filenames (I suppose we're still
talking about filenames?) were before, you'll first have to convert them
to UTF8. There is a script somewhere that will do this similar to the
recode utility, but I can't find it right now.

If you have some files with single cyrillic characters in their names
followed by a "normal" character and that cyrillic char "eats" one to
three of the following chars, then the name is not encoded in UTF8.
Example (let's suppose y was a "non-standard" char for now):

File name: abcdyefgh
Displayed: abcd?fgh

On a real terminal (not a console emulator), you can try if the command
unicode-start helps. Inside KDE and other DMs, make sure you can type
the characters you need properly and whether files you create are
displayed properly. If this is so, all you need to do is to look for a
proper console charset and fonts, and of course convert the filenames.

> I think my main problem is, that I dont know whom to ask for what. Is
> it a problem of X, Display Manager, Kde at all, Konqueror, a mount
> problem... it could be everything. 

Well, essentially it *is* everything, but in most cases, the solutions
are very similar.

X, DM, KDE: needs proper fonts
KDE: needs locale set
mount: as mentioned, the FS doesn't care what encoding you're using :-)
console: good luck

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Re: Multimedia Optimisation

2004-06-07 Thread Simon L
Chris Metzler wrote:
On Mon, 07 Jun 2004 11:55:05 +
Simon L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 

Chris Metzler wrote:
   

On Mon, 07 Jun 2004 09:02:43 +
Simon L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 

I will take a concrete example: "Tuxracer". I can run it (at approx 
1frame/sec).
   

Whoa.  If you're only getting 1 fps on tuxracer, that strongly suggests
you're using software rendering rather than hardware.  Can you run
"glxinfo" and see what it says for "direct rendering"?
 

direct rendering: Yes
   

OK, let's forget tuxracer for a second.  Can you run "glxgears" from
a terminal?  In that terminal, it will give fps counts.  What do you
get?
-c
 

Now I am all :S
It wrote 362.600 FPS so I said to myself "how come". I ran "Tuxracer" 
and now it works...
I don't know what happened, I don't know what I did, but now it works. 3 
Hours before it didn't worked and now it works...
If only I knew what happened.

Thanks anyway, I'm so happy now :D
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Re: Switching to enlightenment

2004-06-07 Thread Bob Proulx
Marvin Gerardo Aguero Salazar wrote:
> I'd like to switch to enlightenment. I am currently using kde. 
> How can I switch to enlightenment? 

  apt-get install enlightenment

Then change your ~/.xsession file to use enlightenment instead of
kde.  What you don't have a ~/.xsession file?  Assuming you are using
bash then here is one.

  #!/bin/bash --login
  exec enlightenment # or fvwm2 or startkde or whatever

Don't forget to make it executable.

  chmod a+x ~/.xsession

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Re: Website creating software

2004-06-07 Thread Micha Feigin
On Mon, Jun 07, 2004 at 03:56:27PM +0200, Joost De Cock wrote:
> On Monday 07 June 2004 15:31, jack kinnon hurled the following on the wire:
> > Hi
> >  Thanks for the input. What I am referring to is
> > something like the MS FrontPage, not just an ordinary
> > editor.
> 
> must-suppress-urge-to-mock-your-MSFrontpage-reference
> 
> I've heard good things about Bluefish, but I've never used it, I code all my 
> websites in VI.
> 

Doesn't mozilla also have an html editor?

BTW I also use vi/emacs for web work, gives you much more control and
you know exactly what is in there and where to fix things.

> apt-get install bluefish will do the trick.
> 
> joost
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Re: apt dependency problems

2004-06-07 Thread Chris Metzler
On Mon, 7 Jun 2004 19:03:05 -0400
Lee Hanxue <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> The reason I want to have 'user' or 'users' is because I want to allow
> non-priveleged users to mount/unmount it. Actually, it is more of a
> convenience for me, since it is primarily my workstation.

The system needs /var to run.

-c

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Re: glibc + libstdc++?

2004-06-07 Thread Bob Proulx
Jeff Elkins wrote:
> Bob Proulx wrote:
> > Jeff Elkins wrote:
> > > pvconv: relocation error: pvconv: undefined symbol: __dynamic_cast_2
> >
> > I was curious enough to download the application and try it.  I can
> > get a usage string out of it so I think I have all of the libraries on
> > my woody system.  I got a usage string out of it on a sid system.
> [...]
>  libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3 => /usr/lib/libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3 (0x40029000)
> [...]
> dpkg -S /usr/lib/libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3
> libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2: /usr/lib/libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3
> [...]
> Yep, I get a usage string, it just crashes when I try to use the app
>  :)

One of the things I am very interested in is cross distro
compatibility.  So I ran the binary on a RH7.3 machine.  I just ran it
against a random .wav file and it appeared that it runs there.  It
gave me error messages about the conversion but did not report the
missing symbol __dynamic_cast_2.

Then I copied the library from the RH machine to my Debian woody
machine.  I did not remove the debian package first.  Too many things
depend up it.

  apt-cache showpkg libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2

But it is not required for basic C programs which make up the core
utilities.  That is I won't break 'mv' by doing this like I could
moving other libs around.

Therefore I moved my debian version of the library out of the way and
moved the RH version into place directly.  With that copied into place
on Debian the pvconv program ran the same on my Debian machine as it
did on the RH machine.  With this library in place I think the program
will run.

  cd /usr/lib
  mv libstdc++-3-libc6.2-2-2.10.0.so libstdc++-3-libc6.2-2-2.10.0.so.debian
  cp libstdc++-3-libc6.2-2-2.10.0.so.redhat libstdc++-3-libc6.2-2-2.10.0.so

Warning: I really can't recommend this type of low level shared
library manipulation.  Mistakes can really cause trouble with your
system.  You can definitely break your system and need to boot a
recovery image to repair it.  This is not the way to manage a system
in production for example.  But for debugging this type of hacking can
be useful.  And for your particular problem you might find this useful
enough to solve your problem as much as you need it to be solved.

I found an rpm of the library here:

  
http://www.rpmfind.net//linux/RPM/redhat/7.3/updates/i386/libstdc++-2.96-113.i386.html

That can be unpacked using:

  rpm2cpio libstdc++-2.96-113.i386.rpm | cpio -idm

I see this solution as only a workaround.  The real solution would be
to understand what RH did to their library which breaks compatibility,
or the reverse.  Then modify the Debian version so that it works there
too.

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Re: Multimedia Optimisation

2004-06-07 Thread Chris Metzler
On Mon, 07 Jun 2004 11:55:05 +
Simon L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Chris Metzler wrote:
>>On Mon, 07 Jun 2004 09:02:43 +
>>Simon L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>> I will take a concrete example: "Tuxracer". I can run it (at approx 
>>> 1frame/sec).
>>
>> Whoa.  If you're only getting 1 fps on tuxracer, that strongly suggests
>> you're using software rendering rather than hardware.  Can you run
>> "glxinfo" and see what it says for "direct rendering"?
>
> direct rendering: Yes

OK, let's forget tuxracer for a second.  Can you run "glxgears" from
a terminal?  In that terminal, it will give fps counts.  What do you
get?

-c

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Re: make-kpkg, lm-sensors + i2c ain't work

2004-06-07 Thread Chris Metzler
On Mon, 07 Jun 2004 12:27:01 +0200
"Michal R. Hoffmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I have problem with making debs of kernel modules: i2c and lm-sensors. 
> I've downloaded sources of lm_sensors 2.8.6 (tar.gz), not the
> source.deb, can it be the reason?
> I've unpacked sources into /usr/src/modules/aaa
> (aaa = module)

Can you elaborate on what you mean by this?  What was the specific
package that you fetched?  Did you "apt-get install lm-sensors-source"
or did you "apt-get source lm-sensors"?  And what's all this about
"aaa"?  The module source tarball should want to unpack into a
subdirectory of /usr/src/modules with the name "lm-sensors", and
put everything there.


> when I try
> $ cd /usr/src/linux
> $ su
> # make-kpkg --revision blah --append-to-version blah modules_image
> 
> it ain't work - tries ang gives error message.

Are we supposed to guess what the error message is?  There are
different error messages for a reason; and without knowing what
the error message is, there's no way to help you.

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Re: Multimedia Optimisation

2004-06-07 Thread Simon L
Chris Metzler wrote:
On Mon, 07 Jun 2004 09:02:43 +
Simon L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 

I will take a concrete example: "Tuxracer". I can run it (at approx 
1frame/sec).
   

Whoa.  If you're only getting 1 fps on tuxracer, that strongly suggests
you're using software rendering rather than hardware.  Can you run
"glxinfo" and see what it says for "direct rendering"?
-c
 

direct rendering: Yes
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Re: Larger screen size

2004-06-07 Thread Clive Menzies
On (07/06/04 17:39), Jacob Friis Larsen wrote:
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> From: Jacob Friis Larsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2004 17:39:26 +0200
> Subject: Larger screen size
> 
> I am currently only able to use 800x600.
> When I use Knoppix I can use a larger screen.
> 
> How can I get the same options as when I use Knoppix?
> Could I copy some files from Knoppix?
Try:
dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86

You can set different sizes

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