Re: Good News Server

[Simon Kitching]

On Thu, 2004-06-10 at 18:29, s. keeling wrote:
> Incoming from Loren M. Lang:
> > Does anyone know of a good news server I could use?  I'd like to post

A "good news" server sounds like a fine idea - none of this depressing
war, famine and SCO stuff :-)



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Re: Good News Server

[s. keeling]

Incoming from Loren M. Lang:
> Does anyone know of a good news server I could use?  I'd like to post

news.individual.net (my favorite) or gmane.org


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Re: password change

[s. keeling]

Incoming from Joost De Cock:
> On Wednesday 09 June 2004 14:04, Michael Martinell hurled the following on the 
> wire:
> > Is there a way to script out the changing of passwords at the command line.
> >
> > I have about 60 passwords to change manually, according to federal policy.
> 
> apt-get install expect
> 
> but there might be an easyer way.

man 8 chpasswd


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Re: Cobalt

[Joost De Cock]

On Thursday 10 June 2004 08:03, Alex Solla hurled the following on the wire:
> On Jun 9, 2004, at 11:00 PM, Joost De Cock wrote:
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> You may not want to be posting this, since the Debian lists are public
> forums...  ;-)
>
> Alex

Dude, I've been fighting a war to get rid of it for nearly three years now. 
Trust me, I don't like it at all, but there's not much I can do about it (I 
could post from some hotmail address or such, but I prefer kmail over some 
web interface).
I know it doesn't make sense but our legal team says 'We agree that it doesn't 
make sense, but everyone's doing it, so it would be best for us to do it to.'

How lame is that

joost


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Good News Server

[Loren M. Lang]

Does anyone know of a good news server I could use?  I'd like to post
an article to the gnuplot newsgroup, but my isp seems to no longer be
offering free usenet service.  If I could just post articles to a
mail->news gateway would be nice since I can read them without too much
trouble.  I'd prefer a free usenet server, but I might go for a
commercial one.
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Re: password change

[Joost De Cock]

On Wednesday 09 June 2004 14:04, Michael Martinell hurled the following on the 
wire:
> Is there a way to script out the changing of passwords at the command line.
>
> I have about 60 passwords to change manually, according to federal policy.
> In windows I would just do a net user username password
> Is there no similar linux command?

You could write an expect script for that:

http://expect.nist.gov/
apt-get install expect

but there might be an easyer way.

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Re: Solved with a modeline: Re: NEC2080UX+ - "Supported Future Video Modes"

[Erik Steffl]

William Ballard wrote:
On Wed, Jun 09, 2004 at 04:26:25PM -0700, Erik Steffl wrote:
 if you set the frequencies right it should work without edid (and 
without modelines). it's possible you will need modeline though, I don't 
know the details of your situation...

You sir are my hero!  I didn't need the Modeline.  All I needed was 
IgnoreEDID=True and in the monitor section:
HorizSync   64 - 64
VertRefresh 60 - 60
which are the numbers the monitor reports in Windows.

It's a flat-panel monitor; 60hz is the "natural" frequency.  It only 
really matters when you are watching Mpegs2; at the "artificial" 75 hz 
you can see tearing that goes away when you run it at 60hz.

I didn't need to add UseEdidFreqs=False, only the IgnoreEDID=true.  I 
tried changing the HorizSync and VertRefresh without using IgnoreEDID, 
but it did nothing.

Thank you very much for helping me solve a tough problem.
  glad it helped,
  I wonder why would edid info (that comes directly from monitor, as 
far as I can tell) result in worse settings then what X does based on 
vert/horiz frequencies.

erik
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Re: Cobalt

[Joost De Cock]

On Wednesday 09 June 2004 21:23, J. Preiss hurled the following on the wire:
> Well I tried it. I installed the debootstrap on Mandrake 9.[0][1], dont
> know exactly. I changed the partition table before, but somehow it booted
> anyway. Cool.
> I mounted the partition of mandrake's root to /mnt/debinst. Maybe that was
> the fault. Then I called debootstrap and it downloaded many things. After
> all, it run into an error "GLIBC_PRIVATE not found. And mandrake does not
> want to boot with a kernel panic, same error.
> Maybe I should have use another partition, but the drive has only 2G, and
> put in another drive is not possible.
>
> Lets see what happens if I try it with disks...

That's the spirit :)



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Re: OpenOffice Word Count?

[steef van duin]

Ed Sutherland wrote:
Is there anyway to display the wordcount in the status bar of the editor?
Ed

yes, but it is well hidden. look under:   
(left-top) in any textfile

good luck,
steef
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3ware escalade 8006 SATA RAID recommendations; dual boot windows

[Nick Lidakis]

I have been meaning to upgrade my hard disk setup to a RAID array 0 to 
help increase system responsiveness and reduce system applications start 
up times. After some research using google, it seems that the 3ware 
escalade line of RAID SATA cards, specifically the 8006-2LP 2 port RAID 
card, fit the bill nicely. The cards are supported with an open source 
Linux driver, is the only true hardware RAID card supported in LINUX (as 
per the kernel documentation), and is reasonably inexpensive ($139 @ 
newegg).

I have a few questions that I coudn't find an answer to using either 
google or searching through the Debian archives:

Is anybody using this card on a desktop system, and are they happy with 
the performance in a RAID 0 array?

Would I still be able to use LILO or GRUB to dual boot windows off of a 
IDE drive connected to the motherbaords IDE interface?

Is there a big performance increase using a SCSI RAID 0 array as opposed 
to SATA RAID? If yes, which would be a recommended (hardware RAID) SCSI 
card to use with Debian?

Thanks in advance.
NIck
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OpenOffice Word Count?

[Ed Sutherland]

Is there anyway to display the wordcount in the status bar of the editor?
Ed
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Re: Re: How to have better quality display?

[jianan]

Thks for the info. What is a backport? How does it compare to original 
Debian?

I have added the sources.list to my list. What is the name of the 
package to install e.g.
apt-get install what?

Cheers

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Re: 2.4.26 upgrade => no auto power off

[Glenn Meehan]

On Thu, 2004-06-10 at 13:07, David Mesler wrote: 
> Check your dmesg, I'll wager you'll see something like this:
> "ACPI disabled because your bios is from  and too old."
> 
> If so, you'll need to pass "acpi=force" to the kernel. There were a lot of
> acpi changes sometime around 2.4.22 which included a blacklist of bios's.

dmesg | grep acpi => yielded no output

I passed acpi=force to the kernel but I am still having the same
problem.

If I already have an append statement I take it that the syntax is eg.

append="hdb=ide-scsi acpi=force"

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What entries to put in modules.conf for webcam?

[Khurram Ahmed]

Here is the webcam i have:

USB Camera
Manufacturer: OmniVision Technologies, Inc.
Speed: 12Mb/s (full)
USB Version:  1.10
Device Class: 00(>ifc )
Device Subclass: 00
Device Protocol: 00
Maximum Default Endpoint Size: 8
Number of Configurations: 1
Vendor Id: 05a9
Product Id: 8519
Revision Number:  1.00


Well, after battling through google, i did many things.  Here are a bunch that i have 
done:

-videodev loaded: yes 
-ov511 loaded: yes
 ($lsmod : videodev   7168  1 ov511)
-/dev/video to /dev/video63 exist?: yes
-permissions ok on /dev/video?: yes, (ls -al /dev/video
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root6 Jun  9 13:05 /dev/video -> video0)
-usb-hcd and usbcore loaded? yes
-usb correctly detected? yes, look below for /proc/bus/usb/devices output for camera:

(T:  Bus=02 Lev=01 Prnt=01 Port=00 Cnt=01 Dev#=  2 Spd=12  MxCh= 0
D:  Ver= 1.10 Cls=00(>ifc ) Sub=00 Prot=00 MxPS= 8 #Cfgs=  1
P:  Vendor=05a9 ProdID=8519 Rev= 1.00
S:  Manufacturer=OmniVision Technologies, Inc.
S:  Product=USB Camera
C:* #Ifs= 3 Cfg#= 1 Atr=80 MxPwr=500mA
I:  If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 1 Cls=ff(vend.) Sub=00 Prot=00 Driver=(none)
E:  Ad=81(I) Atr=01(Isoc) MxPS=   0 Ivl=1ms
I:  If#= 0 Alt= 1 #EPs= 1 Cls=ff(vend.) Sub=00 Prot=00 Driver=(none)
E:  Ad=81(I) Atr=01(Isoc) MxPS= 384 Ivl=1ms
I:  If#= 0 Alt= 2 #EPs= 1 Cls=ff(vend.) Sub=00 Prot=00 Driver=(none)
E:  Ad=81(I) Atr=01(Isoc) MxPS= 512 Ivl=1ms
I:  If#= 0 Alt= 3 #EPs= 1 Cls=ff(vend.) Sub=00 Prot=00 Driver=(none)
E:  Ad=81(I) Atr=01(Isoc) MxPS= 768 Ivl=1ms
I:  If#= 0 Alt= 4 #EPs= 1 Cls=ff(vend.) Sub=00 Prot=00 Driver=(none)
E:  Ad=81(I) Atr=01(Isoc) MxPS= 896 Ivl=1ms
I:  If#= 1 Alt= 0 #EPs= 0 Cls=01(audio) Sub=01 Prot=00 Driver=audio
I:  If#= 2 Alt= 0 #EPs= 0 Cls=01(audio) Sub=02 Prot=00 Driver=audio
I:  If#= 2 Alt= 1 #EPs= 1 Cls=01(audio) Sub=02 Prot=00 Driver=audio
E:  Ad=82(I) Atr=05(Isoc) MxPS=  40 Ivl=1ms
 

Phew, now, i think i have pretty much exhausted all the options that need enabling, 
but the webcam still does not work.  Here is what i get with xawtv:

$ xawtv -c /dev/video (-hwscan does not detect the camera)
This is xawtv-3.92, running on Linux/i686 (2.6.6)
can't open /dev/video: No such device
v4l-conf had some trouble, trying to continue anyway
v4l2: open /dev/video: No such device
v4l2: open /dev/video: No such device
v4l: open /dev/video: No such device

And v4l-conf gives this:
 # v4l-conf
v4l-conf: using X11 display :0.0
dga: version 2.0
mode: 1024x768, depth=24, bpp=32, bpl=4096, base=0xd800
can't open /dev/video0: No such device 

At this point i am wondering if this has something to do with /etc/modules.conf file.  
I mean it has no entries in there as of now dealing with 'videodev/webcam' or actually 
anything at all dealing with video in general.  Could this be the problem, and if so, 
what do i have to add to modules.conf?  I know i am supposed to make a file in 
/etc/modutils and then just run update-modules in Debian Sid.  But what should go in 
that file?  

Thanks.

I am using Kernel 2.6.6 on Debian Sid with a Epox via KT266 mobo.









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Re: 2.4.26 upgrade => no auto power off

[David Mesler]

Check your dmesg, I'll wager you'll see something like this:
"ACPI disabled because your bios is from  and too old."

If so, you'll need to pass "acpi=force" to the kernel. There were a lot of
acpi changes sometime around 2.4.22 which included a blacklist of bios's.

> Hi,
>
> I just upgraded my kernel from 2.4.18 to 2.4.26 and now my system won't
> auto power down.
>
> I am running testing/unstable.
>
> I have:
> apm power_off=1
> in /etc/modules
>
> root:~>apt-show-versions apmd
> apmd/testing uptodate 3.2.2-1
>
> Here are my relevent kernel configs:
>
> CONFIG_PM=y
> CONFIG_APM=m
> # CONFIG_APM_IGNORE_USER_SUSPEND is not set
> # CONFIG_APM_DO_ENABLE is not set
> # CONFIG_APM_CPU_IDLE is not set
> # CONFIG_APM_DISPLAY_BLANK is not set
> # CONFIG_APM_RTC_IS_GMT is not set
> # CONFIG_APM_ALLOW_INTS is not set
> CONFIG_APM_REAL_MODE_POWER_OFF=y
>
> #
> # ACPI Support
> #
> # CONFIG_ACPI is not set
> CONFIG_ACPI_BOOT=y
> # CONFIG_OPTIMISE_SIZE is not set
>
> Any suggestions as to how I can get my system to auto power down again?
>
> Thanks
>
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Re: $PATH and /etc/profile

[Simon L]

Carl Fink wrote:
On Wed, Jun 09, 2004 at 07:36:14AM +, Simon L wrote:
 

I checked a bit more this file and I found the line "DAEMON=" so I added 
the /bin/bash here, but it did nothing (yes I rebooted :P )
   

Did you put it in quotes, like this?
	DAEMON="/bin/bash /usr/bin/kdm"?
 

Yes, because it was already like in quote
I have (I must say) no expertise with shell scripts, I'm just
throwing out ideas.
Why reboot?  You can stop and restart any (compliant) Debian daemon
by typing (as root)
/etc/init.d/name-of-daemon restart
 

I know, but I wanted to be sure :)
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KDE Window Controls Stop Responding

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I have this weird problem where, in KDE 3.2, my window controls stop 
responding -- that is, I mean i can't click the minimize, maximize, or 
close controls on the Window title bar. In fact, I can't click and drag 
the window at all, nor can I grab the edges and resize.

The problem goes away when I restart, though.
Anyone ever seen this? Or have an idea how to fix it?
Moe
Silvan wrote:
On Wednesday 09 June 2004 10:59 am, Alvin Oga wrote:

It isn't mounted normally.  It isn't mounted before fscking it.
good... but i'd add the umount to the script, just to make sure
nothing breaks

We, I guess yes, that's not a bad plan, just in case.  Instead of relying 
on the previous night's run to have umounted it.


No, I shouldn't.  Especially since all 42 reports are completely
uneventful runs.  The "-n" option is supposed to keep it from doing
anything without asking me, and presumably if there ever *is* a problem,
I'll see it the next morning and can intervene manually.

wondering why you'd want to continuously ( daily ) check the fs ..

I've been ridiculously paranoid ever since a hard disk crash I had a couple 
years ago.


interesting idea with fsck -n ...

Seemed to be the only way to run it out of a non-interactive shell.
sounds like the script didnt do anything, because when you mount(?) it,
it says ( running e2fsck since its been mounted 42 times w/o fsck'ing )
- a good sign, in this case

Running it from the command line produces the same results.  It looks like it 
is in fact doing something, and that it would probably report trouble if it 
ever found any.  Kinda hard to test that theory unless I mount the drive and 
then hit the power button on purpose or something.  :)


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Re: URGENT HLP PLS

[Roberto Sanchez]

Vijaya S wrote:
Hi all,
I posted this doubt earlier ,but didnt get any response..
I have a machine with the following configuration.
Chipset : VIA KM 266
VIA VT8235 CE
Grpahics:Intergrated VIA Unichrome
MB : ASUS A7V266-MX
I was able to install Rehdat 7.3 on it and windows too.
But i tried installing Debian 3.0 woody ,but it just doesnt support the
video card ..
So i looked back to the documentation and the manuals.
Tha manuals says it supports only   Redhat ,Suse,Turbo ,and Caldera.
apart from Windows ..
Can some one suggest if theres a way to go or has anyone faced a similar
situations.
Check the forums at http://www.viaarena.com/
I seem to recall a while back some discussion on getting this chipset
working in Debian or Knoppix.
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Re: USB keyboards and linux 2.6

[csj]

On 8. June 2004 at 6:18PM -0400,
Carl Fink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Wed, Jun 09, 2004 at 05:25:22AM +0800, csj wrote:
> 
> > ... It seems I have all the necessary kernel bits in place.
> > But rebooting with the USB keyboard attached causes my
> > computer to hang (with or without my normal keyboard
> > attached) ...
> 
> USB being hot-pluggable: what if you boot without the keyboard
> (using a PS/2 style connector instead), and then plug the
> keyboard in after boot time?
> 
> Use this command: "sudo tail -f /var/log/messages" first, and
> you can watch the USB system identify the new device as it's
> detected.

Not necessary: I see the device identified by the console
messages correcty as a "USB keyboard".  But banging at the USB
keyboard adds nothing to the screen ouput (not even garbage
characters).  The PS/2 keyboard is okay.  So is my USB mouse
(under X).

I have the "hotplug" package installed (in in its default setup).
Could this be a problem?  I'm thinking maybe I'm having a module
loading order problem (this was certainly the case with my TV
tuner card under linux 2.6).  So I'm looking to clone the
/etc/modules or /etc/hotplug* of someone with a successful linux
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Re: mouse wheel [was Re: Im reposting because it didn't send]

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Hm ... I had to plug in my mouse (USB) and "modprobe hid", and everything
works.  It even autoloads hid now on reboot.
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Re: mono + wine + windows.forms

[paul]

Hey,
You should visit www.go-mono.com
If you will note, windows forms implementation in mono is not complete.  In
addition, unless you have the dot net framework installed in wine, nothing will
run.

Quick lesson on what .NET is, it's a framework with a Common Language Runtime
(CLR).  The CLR is a standardized enviornment that executes MSIL code (code
compiled by .NET).  So unless you have a CLR on your Wine, no go.

You can create command line programs and have them execute in linux.

Paul

Quoting Szymon Nieradka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> I'm trying to run programs written in C# (mono) with Windows.Forms under
> Linux. Unfortunately without success. I've got complete mono and
> mono-wine from:
>
> deb http://www.debianplanet.org/mono testing main
>
> I run win32server as root and then:
>
> $ wine form.exe
>
> and w i've got message ,,You have to install M$ .NET Framework'' and
> program finish (exactly the same text I could get running .NET soft on
> mswindows without framework). Log:
>
> When you are running with a native NT directory specify
> 'Profile=' or disable loading of Windows
> registry (LoadWindowsRegistryFiles=N)
> fixme:shell:UrlIsW (L"Y:\\dev\\cs\\forms\\form.exe.config" 0): stub
> Wine exited with a successful status
>
> but when I start like that:
> $ mono form.exe
>
> I've got messages:
>
> MonoWin32: Initializing WineLib
> fixme:cdrom:CDROM_GetIdeInterface not implemented for true scsi drives
> Could not stat /home/snieradka/.wine/%HOME% (Nie ma takiego pliku ani
> katalogu), ignoring drive Y:
> When you are running with a native NT directory specify
> 'Profile=' or disable loading of Windows
> registry (LoadWindowsRegistryFiles=N)
> Warning: Language 'pl_PL' was not found, retrying without country name...
> Warning: Language 'pl' was not recognized, defaulting to English
> fixme:keyboard:X11DRV_KEYBOARD_DetectLayout Your keyboard layout was not
> found!
> Using closest match instead (United States keyboard layout) for scancode
> mapping.
> Please define your layout in windows/x11drv/keyboard.c and submit them
> to us for inclusion into future Wine releases.
> See the Wine User Guide, chapter "Keyboard" for more information.
> err:menu:MENU_GetSysMenu failed to load system menu!
>
> Unhandled Exception: System.EntryPointNotFoundException:
> GdipCreateFontFamilyFromName
> [...]
>
>
> That's my
> - System Information:
> Debian Release: testing/unstable
>   APT prefers testing
>   APT policy: (600, 'testing'), (50, 'unstable'), (1, 'experimental')
> Architecture: i386 (i686)
> Kernel: Linux 2.6.3
> Locale: LANG=pl_PL, LC_CTYPE=pl_PL
>
> mono -V
> Mono JIT compiler version 0.30.2, (C) 2002-2004 Novell, Inc. www.go-mono.com
>
> What am I doing wrong?
>
> PS. Please write on my address. I'm not a member of debian-user group.
>
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2.4.26 upgrade => no auto power off

[Glenn Meehan]

Hi,

I just upgraded my kernel from 2.4.18 to 2.4.26 and now my system won't
auto power down.

I am running testing/unstable.

I have:
apm power_off=1
in /etc/modules

root:~>apt-show-versions apmd
apmd/testing uptodate 3.2.2-1

Here are my relevent kernel configs:

CONFIG_PM=y
CONFIG_APM=m
# CONFIG_APM_IGNORE_USER_SUSPEND is not set
# CONFIG_APM_DO_ENABLE is not set
# CONFIG_APM_CPU_IDLE is not set
# CONFIG_APM_DISPLAY_BLANK is not set
# CONFIG_APM_RTC_IS_GMT is not set
# CONFIG_APM_ALLOW_INTS is not set
CONFIG_APM_REAL_MODE_POWER_OFF=y

#
# ACPI Support
#
# CONFIG_ACPI is not set
CONFIG_ACPI_BOOT=y
# CONFIG_OPTIMISE_SIZE is not set

Any suggestions as to how I can get my system to auto power down again?

Thanks


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nagios-mysql b0rkage ???

[Michael D Schleif]

I am running Debian, mostly testing and some unstable.  I installed
nagios from testing, and most of it was working.  I was having problems
with status, as documented here:



Those patches appeared to resolve the problem.  I remain confused why
Debian does not show a bug against this:



I was going to write the maintainer, when I noticed that unstable has a
newer version:

# apt-cache policy nagios-mysql
nagios-mysql:
  Installed: 2:1.2-3.1
  Candidate: 2:1.2-3.1
  Version Table:
 *** 2:1.2-3.1 0
500 http://mirror.cs.wisc.edu unstable/main Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
 2:1.1-11 0
990 http://mirror.cs.wisc.edu testing/main Packages
 2:1.0-4.bunk 0
500 http://www.fs.tum.de woody/bunk-1/main Packages

So, I upgraded to that version, which resulted in the five (5) crucial
definition errors documented below.  I _purged_ the entire package, and
installed unstable from scratch -- same problem:

# sudo /usr/sbin/nagios -v /etc/nagios/nagios.cfg
Nagios 1.2
Copyright (c) 1999-2004 Ethan Galstad ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Last Modified: 02-02-2004
License: GPL

Reading configuration data...
Running pre-flight check on configuration data...

Checking services...
Error: There are no services defined!
Checked 0 services.
Checking hosts...
Error: There are no hosts defined!
Checked 0 hosts.
Checking host groups...
Error: There are no host groups defined!
Checked 0 host groups.
Checking contacts...
Error: There are no contacts defined!
Checked 0 contacts.
Checking contact groups...
Error: There are no contact groups defined!

Checked 0 contact groups.
Checking service escalations...
Checked 0 service escalations.
Checking host group escalations...
Checked 0 host group escalations.
Checking service dependencies...
Checked 0 service dependencies.
Checking host escalations...
Checked 0 host escalations.
Checking host dependencies...
Checked 0 host dependencies.
Checking commands...
Checked 0 commands.
Checking time periods...
Checked 0 time periods.
Checking for circular paths between hosts...
Checking for circular service execution dependencies...
Checking global event handlers...
Checking obsessive compulsive service processor command...
Checking misc settings...

Total Warnings: 0
Total Errors:   5


Here is my main configuration:

# grep -v '^\(#\|$\)' nagios.cfg
log_file=/var/log/nagios/nagios.log
cfg_file=/etc/nagios/checkcommands.cfg
cfg_file=/etc/nagios/misccommands.cfg
cfg_file=/etc/nagios/contactgroups.cfg
cfg_file=/etc/nagios/contacts.cfg
cfg_file=/etc/nagios/dependencies.cfg
cfg_file=/etc/nagios/escalations.cfg
cfg_file=/etc/nagios/hostgroups.cfg
cfg_file=/etc/nagios/hosts.cfg
cfg_file=/etc/nagios/services.cfg
cfg_file=/etc/nagios/timeperiods.cfg
resource_file=/etc/nagios/resource.cfg
status_file=/var/log/nagios/status.log
nagios_user=nagios
nagios_group=nagios
check_external_commands=1
command_check_interval=-1
command_file=/var/log/nagios/rw/nagios.cmd
comment_file=/var/log/nagios/comment.log
downtime_file=/var/log/nagios/downtime.log
lock_file=/var/log/nagios/nagios.lock
temp_file=/var/log/nagios/nagios.tmp
log_rotation_method=d
log_archive_path=/var/log/nagios/archives
use_syslog=1
log_notifications=1
log_service_retries=1
log_host_retries=1
log_event_handlers=1
log_initial_states=0
log_external_commands=1
log_passive_service_checks=1
inter_check_delay_method=s
service_interleave_factor=s
max_concurrent_checks=0
service_reaper_frequency=10
sleep_time=1
service_check_timeout=60
host_check_timeout=30
event_handler_timeout=30
notification_timeout=30
ocsp_timeout=5
perfdata_timeout=5
retain_state_information=1
state_retention_file=/var/log/nagios/status.sav
retention_update_interval=60
use_retained_program_state=0
interval_length=60
use_agressive_host_checking=0
execute_service_checks=1
execute_service_checks=1
accept_passive_service_checks=1
enable_notifications=1
enable_event_handlers=1
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Re: Solved with a modeline: Re: NEC2080UX+ - "Supported Future Video Modes"

[William Ballard]

On Wed, Jun 09, 2004 at 04:57:06PM -0700, William Ballard wrote:
> It's a flat-panel monitor; 60hz is the "natural" frequency.  It only 
> really matters when you are watching Mpegs2; at the "artificial" 75 hz 
> you can see tearing that goes away when you run it at 60hz.

The rest of X looks much crisper now too.  Happy!  Joy!


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Re: confused Re: running fsck out of a script; drive never shows being checked

[Silvan]

On Wednesday 09 June 2004 10:59 am, Alvin Oga wrote:

> > It isn't mounted normally.  It isn't mounted before fscking it.
>
> good... but i'd add the umount to the script, just to make sure
> nothing breaks

We, I guess yes, that's not a bad plan, just in case.  Instead of relying 
on the previous night's run to have umounted it.

> > No, I shouldn't.  Especially since all 42 reports are completely
> > uneventful runs.  The "-n" option is supposed to keep it from doing
> > anything without asking me, and presumably if there ever *is* a problem,
> > I'll see it the next morning and can intervene manually.

> wondering why you'd want to continuously ( daily ) check the fs ..

I've been ridiculously paranoid ever since a hard disk crash I had a couple 
years ago.

> interesting idea with fsck -n ...

Seemed to be the only way to run it out of a non-interactive shell.
>
> sounds like the script didnt do anything, because when you mount(?) it,
> it says ( running e2fsck since its been mounted 42 times w/o fsck'ing )
>   - a good sign, in this case

Running it from the command line produces the same results.  It looks like it 
is in fact doing something, and that it would probably report trouble if it 
ever found any.  Kinda hard to test that theory unless I mount the drive and 
then hit the power button on purpose or something.  :)

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Re: Solved with a modeline: Re: NEC2080UX+ - "Supported Future Video Modes"

[William Ballard]

On Wed, Jun 09, 2004 at 04:26:25PM -0700, Erik Steffl wrote:
>   if you set the frequencies right it should work without edid (and 
> without modelines). it's possible you will need modeline though, I don't 
> know the details of your situation...

You sir are my hero!  I didn't need the Modeline.  All I needed was 
IgnoreEDID=True and in the monitor section:
HorizSync   64 - 64
VertRefresh 60 - 60
which are the numbers the monitor reports in Windows.

It's a flat-panel monitor; 60hz is the "natural" frequency.  It only 
really matters when you are watching Mpegs2; at the "artificial" 75 hz 
you can see tearing that goes away when you run it at 60hz.

I didn't need to add UseEdidFreqs=False, only the IgnoreEDID=true.  I 
tried changing the HorizSync and VertRefresh without using IgnoreEDID, 
but it did nothing.

Thank you very much for helping me solve a tough problem.


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Replicating Kernel config produced by Debian Installer

[Michael Bellears]

If I copy the kernel config generated by Debian Installer
(/boot/config-2.4.25-1-386) to /usr/src/linux-2.4.25/.config, should the
resulting compiled kernel be identical to the Debian Installer generated
kernel?

If so, adding appropriate lilo entries should then allow me to use this
new kernel - Correct?

I'm under the impression that I would need to compile things like the
raid controllers etc into the kernel, rather than as modules?(Although
Debian Installer compiles them as modules, and the System boots fine?)

BTW - The guys responsible for Debian Installer have done an absolute
cracker of a job - Auto-detection of hardware is a god-send!

Regards,
MB

Net::SSH::Perl in testing?

[Jeremy Brooks]

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Normally I can find the modules I need pretty quickly using apt-cache,
aptitude or packages.debian.org.  But this one is eluding me.  Does
anybody know which, if any, Debian package contains this module?

thanks!

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Re: Solved with a modeline: Re: NEC2080UX+ - "Supported Future Video Modes"

[Erik Steffl]

William Ballard wrote:
On Wed, Jun 09, 2004 at 03:32:35PM -0700, Erik Steffl wrote:
 didn't catch the beginning but if you are sure that monitor supports 
it you can include the following in Section "Device":

   Option  "UseEdidFreqs" "false"
   Option  "IgnoreEdid" "true"

When I put in "IgnoreEdid" the monitor just comes up with "VGA out of 
sync"  "UseEdidFreqs" doesn't appear to have an effect.

When you simply place a Modeline in the monitor section, how do you make 
X use it?  Maybe I'm "IgnoringEdid" but it's not picking up the 
modeline.
  are you using proper frequencies? X tries to set freq as high as 
possible for given resolution, I didn't read the beginning of the thread 
but it seems like you want it to use 60 instead of 75? if so make sure 
HorizSync has 60 as upper bound.

  if you set the frequencies right it should work without edid (and 
without modelines). it's possible you will need modeline though, I don't 
know the details of your situation...

erik
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Re: Mozilla thunderbird crashes when opening attachments

[Mal Beaton]

Ralph Katz wrote:
On 06/08/04 22:50, Mal Beaton wrote:
apt-cache show mozilla-thunderbird
Package: mozilla-thunderbird
Priority: optional
Section: mail
Installed-Size: 31944
Maintainer: Alexander Sack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Architecture: i386
Version: 0.6-2
When trying to open attachments mozilla-thunderbird closes. The
attachements do not open
In Tools > Options > Attachments
the area
File Types
Automatically perform the associated action with each of the following
file types
is empty and there is no way to add an action
in mozilla-firefox it defaults to the kde file open dialog
I am using debian unstable + kde 3.2.2
can anyone point me in the right direction

I'm using debian unstable + parts of gnome 2.4
I believe the Tools > Options > Attachments "dialog" you describe is 
only functional for changing actions.  Set the desired action with the 
"open" dialog.

To open attachments, right click on the attachment filename in the 
message window;
or the pull-down menu: file -> attachments -> [file name] -> open / save as

I like: Right click -> open/ save as/ save all ->
open -> "You have chosen to open [filename] from: [mailbox filename]
which is a: [pdf, Microsoft Word, etc] document"
"What should Thunderbird do with this file?"
-> open with (pull down showing default, or choose other)
-> save to disk
-> Check box "Do this automatically for files like this from now on."
This is where I set defaults.
As for the application closing when you attempt this, there is a mozilla 
 bug that crashes apps when a corrupted bitmap image is opened.  Have 
you looked at the bug reports?
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=mozilla-thunderbird

thanks however right click on any attachment pdf, sxc, jpg and select 
open. THey all crash


Regards,
Ralph


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Re: Administrative rights for special task

[Micha Feigin]

On Wed, Jun 09, 2004 at 07:11:30PM +0200, Debian Users wrote:
> Dear List,
> 
> I would like to give a regular user the rights to do the following on a
> Debian system:
> 
> 1) Install a (secure) ldap server
> 2) Test the server
> 3) Fill in the address "data base" for this server
> 
> Question: Does this user need full root privileges on this machine? Even
> though this is only a test machine, I would rather not have him the rights
> to change passwords and see users files.
> 
> My hunch is, there is no other way but lending him full root access, but I
> would be delighted to hear your wisdom!
> 

I don't know if it will give you the full limitations you want but it
sounds like sudo is your friend, it allows limiting users to specific
programs.

Another solution is to make the relevant program suid root (runs as
root), make it inaccessible to a regular user and executable to group
and then set a relevant group and add the user to it (chmod 04710
)

Third option is to run the server is a uml, then the user has root
privilege in the uml but no root access to the system.

> Regards, Stefan
> 
> 
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Re: Solved with a modeline: Re: NEC2080UX+ - "Supported Future Video Modes"

[Zenaan Harkness]

On Thu, 2004-06-10 at 08:52, William Ballard wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 10, 2004 at 08:16:55AM +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
> > Modeline "1280x1024" 135 1280 1296 1440 1688 1024 1025 1028 1066
> 
> My Monitor was already coming up at 1280x1024.
> 
> Once you put in the modeline in XF86Config-4, how do you make X use it?

You restart X.

I actually test it (so I can use GUI for email, etc, while testing) by
running (as root) something like:

 xinit -- :1

and cat /root/.xinitrc contains the single line:

 xterm

That way, you can use CTRL-ALT-F8 and CTRL-ALT-F7 to swap between the
two X servers, to read more instructions or whatever.

To actually run X programs (eg. dpyinfo) in the xterm, you need to
export the appropriate DISPLAY, eg:

 export DISPLAY=:1

Also in your xterm you can run any window manager, eg:

 metacity &

and then exit or CTRL-D or CTRL-BACKSPACE to close the X-term.

To fully exit/ restart your regular X (on vt7) once it's all working,
logout, then CTRL-ALT-F1 to go to vt1, log in as root, and something
like one of the following:

 /etc/init.d/gdm restart
 /etc/init.d/gdm stop
 /etc/init.d/kdm restart

etc

> I copied and pasted this line into this part of XF86Config-4:
> Section "Monitor"
> Identifier  "Monitor0"
> HorizSync   31.5 - 80.5
> VertRefresh 60 - 75
> Option "DPMS"
> Modeline "1280x1024" 135 1280 1296 1440 1688 1024 1025 1028 1066
> [...]

First thought: comment out the Horiz... and Vert... refresh lines, and
then try testing your x server.

> but it comes up at 1280x1024 H80 V75, as it always did without this 
> modeline.  I know in Windows when I run at [EMAIL PROTECTED], I think the 
> it's the V number which becomes 60 and the H number goes to something 
> else.

On second thoughts, perhaps change the VertRefresh line to "60"
instead of "60 - 75" to try to force it to only to 60 vertical
refresh.

good luck
zen


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Re: Solved with a modeline: Re: NEC2080UX+ - "Supported Future Video Modes"

[William Ballard]

On Wed, Jun 09, 2004 at 03:32:35PM -0700, Erik Steffl wrote:
>   didn't catch the beginning but if you are sure that monitor supports 
> it you can include the following in Section "Device":
> 
> Option  "UseEdidFreqs" "false"
> Option  "IgnoreEdid" "true"
> 

When I put in "IgnoreEdid" the monitor just comes up with "VGA out of 
sync"  "UseEdidFreqs" doesn't appear to have an effect.

When you simply place a Modeline in the monitor section, how do you make 
X use it?  Maybe I'm "IgnoringEdid" but it's not picking up the 
modeline.


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Re: autogenerate Re: Website creating software

[S.D.A.]

On Wed, Jun 09, 2004 at 09:15:58AM -0700 or thereabouts, Alvin Oga wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 9 Jun 2004, S.D.A. wrote:
> 
> > I'm not knocking those using Vi, Vi(m) or Emacs, they're probably experts at
> > writing raw HTML. However, I have my doubts, that way, works in an efficient
> > standardized workflow, within a workgroup, where others are using Visual IDE's
> > -- In fact I know it wouldn't, as we've tried it.
> 
> one has to enter the raw data some place ...
>   - vi is good for etnering data into the db
> 
> use # html.generate.pl   to create all the web pages on the fly
>   - and it'd create online forms too 
>   - and making global changes would be trivial
>   ( like your company and address and ph# changes )
> 
>   - use your fav programs ( perl, php, C ) to create web pages 
>   fast and efficiently
> 
> html pages has to be created by automated programs ... if one wants to
> scale  and if one wants to be able to do interactive pages

Problem is, that many coders aren't very good designers, and what you're
recommending, would create boilerplate looking webpages. Won't fly if you're
developing for many clients. People tend to want original looking designs. Of
course for creating forms, there's nothing like the pear class for doing so, and
it's still nice, when doing  CSS-P, for one to see what the layout looks like. A
Visual editor is better suited when developing websites for a living, IMHO.

Freelancers, can get away with using what they want. Working for a firm, most
people, are going to be using a Visual Editor, and working in groups.  So,
Dreamweaver is the standard in that environment, and it is a pretty decent IDE.

It's along the same line that professionals tend to use layout applications like
Adobe InDesign or Quark Express, over TeX or LaTeX. The two aforementioned are
industry standards, and tend to allow one to be more creative then using TeX to
layout a catalogue or brochure (if you want your own design, rather than the one
that script provides). Faster to...

Still there are  certain procedures, that one would like TeX in one's tool chest
for.

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Re: Solved with a modeline: Re: NEC2080UX+ - "Supported Future Video Modes"

[William Ballard]

On Thu, Jun 10, 2004 at 08:16:55AM +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
> Modeline "1280x1024" 135 1280 1296 1440 1688 1024 1025 1028 1066

My Monitor was already coming up at 1280x1024.

Once you put in the modeline in XF86Config-4, how do you make X use it?

I copied and pasted this line into this part of XF86Config-4:
Section "Monitor"
Identifier  "Monitor0"
HorizSync   31.5 - 80.5
VertRefresh 60 - 75
Option "DPMS"
Modeline "1280x1024" 135 1280 1296 1440 1688 1024 1025 1028 1066
[...]

but it comes up at 1280x1024 H80 V75, as it always did without this 
modeline.  I know in Windows when I run at [EMAIL PROTECTED], I think the 
it's the V number which becomes 60 and the H number goes to something 
else.


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Re: Solved with a modeline: Re: NEC2080UX+ - "Supported Future Video Modes"

[Erik Steffl]

Zenaan Harkness wrote:
On Wed, 2004-06-09 at 17:09, William Ballard wrote:
From this snippet of XFree86.0.log, can anyone construct a modeline 
which will come up at [EMAIL PROTECTED]  The monitor is NEC LCD1850E with a 
Radeon 9800XT.

(II) fglrx(0): Supported additional Video Mode:
(II) fglrx(0): clock: 135.0 MHz   Image Size:  359 x 287 mm
(II) fglrx(0): h_active: 1280  h_sync: 1296  h_sync_end 1440 h_blank_end 
1688 h_border: 0
(II) fglrx(0): v_active: 1024  v_sync: 1025  v_sync_end 1028 v_blanking: 
1066 v_border: 0
(II) fglrx(0): Ranges: V min: 55  V max: 85 Hz, H min: 31  H max: 82 
kHz, PixClock max 140 MHz

Well, if  the same technique works as did for me:
Modeline "1280x1024" 135 1280 1296 1440 1688 1024 1025 1028 1066
Which actually looks the same as a line further down in the log:

(II) fglrx(0): Monitor name: NEC LCD1850E
(II) fglrx(0): Serial No: 204011324
(II) fglrx(0):
(II) fglrx(0): DesktopSetup 0x
(**) fglrx(0):  PseudoColor visuals disabled
(**) fglrx(0): Overlay disabled
(**) fglrx(0): Overlay disabled
(II) fglrx(0): PLL parameters: rf=2700 rd=12 min=2 max=4; 
xclk=36500
(==) fglrx(0): Using gamma correction (1.0, 1.0, 1.0)
(**) fglrx(0): Center Mode is disabled
(==) fglrx(0): TMDS coherent mode is enabled
(II) fglrx(0): Total 5 valid mode(s) found.
(--) fglrx(0): Virtual size is 1280x1024 (pitch 1280)
(**) fglrx(0): *Default mode "1280x1024": 135.0 MHz (scaled from 0.0 
MHz), 80.0 kHz, 75.0 Hz

(II) fglrx(0): Modeline "1280x1024"  135.00  1280 1296 1440 1688  1024 
1025 1028 1066

If it doesn't work, we'll have to find someone more knowledgeable
than us. Let us know how you go.
  didn't catch the beginning but if you are sure that monitor supports 
it you can include the following in Section "Device":

Option  "UseEdidFreqs" "false"
Option  "IgnoreEdid" "true"
  I had to do the same for Sony monitor that was reporting wrong values 
(Edid said it couldn't do 1280x1024) but given the HorizSync and 
VertRefresh it should have supported it and indeed it worked fine (once 
edid was disabled). I did set the HorizSync and VertRefresh according to 
monitor docs so I wasn't 'overclocking' it, I ony wanted resolution that 
wasn't in edid (slightly higher)

  guess it can damage your monitor so you'd better be carefull...
erik
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Re: Re: Mail Delivery (failure customerservice@clubmosaico.com) [#3355304]

[TM7023]

tengo una orden de libros con ustede y no me allegao , megustaria saber que debo de ahacer para recibir mis libros, la orden ya fue pagada de mi cuenta, espero su respuesta, gracias

Re: Re: Mail Delivery (failure customerservice@clubmosaico.com) [#3355304]

[TM7023]

hola ! yo tengo una compra de libros con ustedes y no he recibido mi paquete, no se que hacer para saber que pasa la orden ya fue pagada, ustede tomas su dinero de mi cuenta y ahora no se que hacer para recibir mis libros, mi orden indica que los recibiria el dia 8 de junio.    mi nombre esl Griselda F. Montes . Espero una respuesta lo mas pronto posible, gracias.

Re: Stalled AT Poor Man's install with KNOPPIX 3.4

[Conrad Newton]

>From Conrad Newton on Wednesday, 2004-06-09 at 22:45:28 +0200:
> >From ts on Thursday, 2004-06-10 at 00:52:08 +0800:
> > Hi!
> >  
> > Just downloaded knoppix3.4 iso (KNOPPIX_V3.4-2004-05-17-EN.iso)last night under 
> > windows , 
> > I have many times used the FAQ located at 
> > (http://www.knoppix.net/docs/index.php/HdBasedHowTo) 
> > to install the KNOPPIX 3.4 from my hard drive instead of from CDROM. 
> > 
> > I extracted KNOPPIX( by Deamon tool3.46) to D:\KNOPPIX\ .
> > 
> > strangly  I found knoppix3.4 doesn't contain "mkfloppy.bat"& "boot-en.img" 
> > anymore. 
> > later I tried "mkfloppy.bat"& "boot-en.img" from KNOPPIX3.0 cd ,it just couldn't 
> > find knoopix file on 
> > "D:"(hda3)I just stalled there 
> 
> The problem is that the kernel has grown beyond the size
> of a standard 1.4MB floppy diskette.  It may still be
> possible to boot using two diskettes, but I have not
> yet looked into this possibility---look through the
> "Knoppix" menu and see if you find anything there.

>From the Knoppix developers' list:

http://mailman.linuxtag.org/pipermail/debian-knoppix/2004-June/005340.html

Conrad


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Re: Solved with a modeline: Re: NEC2080UX+ - "Supported Future Video Modes"

[Zenaan Harkness]

On Wed, 2004-06-09 at 17:09, William Ballard wrote:
> >From this snippet of XFree86.0.log, can anyone construct a modeline 
> which will come up at [EMAIL PROTECTED]  The monitor is NEC LCD1850E with a 
> Radeon 9800XT.
> 
> (II) fglrx(0): Supported additional Video Mode:
> (II) fglrx(0): clock: 135.0 MHz   Image Size:  359 x 287 mm
> (II) fglrx(0): h_active: 1280  h_sync: 1296  h_sync_end 1440 h_blank_end 
> 1688 h_border: 0
> (II) fglrx(0): v_active: 1024  v_sync: 1025  v_sync_end 1028 v_blanking: 
> 1066 v_border: 0
> (II) fglrx(0): Ranges: V min: 55  V max: 85 Hz, H min: 31  H max: 82 
> kHz, PixClock max 140 MHz

Well, if  the same technique works as did for me:

Modeline "1280x1024" 135 1280 1296 1440 1688 1024 1025 1028 1066

Which actually looks the same as a line further down in the log:

> (II) fglrx(0): Monitor name: NEC LCD1850E
> (II) fglrx(0): Serial No: 204011324
> (II) fglrx(0):
> (II) fglrx(0): DesktopSetup 0x
> (**) fglrx(0):  PseudoColor visuals disabled
> (**) fglrx(0): Overlay disabled
> (**) fglrx(0): Overlay disabled
> (II) fglrx(0): PLL parameters: rf=2700 rd=12 min=2 max=4; 
> xclk=36500
> (==) fglrx(0): Using gamma correction (1.0, 1.0, 1.0)
> (**) fglrx(0): Center Mode is disabled
> (==) fglrx(0): TMDS coherent mode is enabled
> (II) fglrx(0): Total 5 valid mode(s) found.
> (--) fglrx(0): Virtual size is 1280x1024 (pitch 1280)
> (**) fglrx(0): *Default mode "1280x1024": 135.0 MHz (scaled from 0.0 
> MHz), 80.0 kHz, 75.0 Hz

> (II) fglrx(0): Modeline "1280x1024"  135.00  1280 1296 1440 1688  1024 
> 1025 1028 1066


If it doesn't work, we'll have to find someone more knowledgeable
than us. Let us know how you go.

good luck
zen


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Re: $PATH and /etc/profile

[Carl Fink]

On Wed, Jun 09, 2004 at 07:36:14AM +, Simon L wrote:

> I checked a bit more this file and I found the line "DAEMON=" so I added 
> the /bin/bash here, but it did nothing (yes I rebooted :P )

Did you put it in quotes, like this?

DAEMON="/bin/bash /usr/bin/kdm"?

I have (I must say) no expertise with shell scripts, I'm just
throwing out ideas.

Why reboot?  You can stop and restart any (compliant) Debian daemon
by typing (as root)

/etc/init.d/name-of-daemon restart

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Re: Is there a utility to get IP address from interface?

[Frank Gevaerts]

On Wed, Jun 09, 2004 at 11:08:12AM +1000, James Sinnamon wrote:
> Dear debian users,
> 
> Is there a utility to simply return the IP address of an interface, say
> eth1 or ppp0?  I need something that works like:
> 
> $ netutil eth0
> 144.133.251.117
> 
> ... or is it necessary to use ifconfig something like as follows:
> 
> $ ifconfig eth0 | sed ' ... ' | cut '' | awk '...'  |  etc
> 144.133.251.117
> 
> ?
> 
> TIA
> 
> James
> 
> PS.  I am doing this all in order to get ddns3 working so any pointers to 
> useful docs would be greatly appreciated.

I would just put a script in /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/. Scripts there are run
once a ppp link is up, and get environment variables containing the ip
address among other things. Have a look at /etc/ppp/ip-up for more
information.

Frank

> -- 
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> jps at westnet com auStralia
> ph +61 412 319669, +61 2 95692123, +61 2 95726357
> 
> 
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Re: Stalled AT Poor Man's install with KNOPPIX 3.4

[Conrad Newton]

>From ts on Thursday, 2004-06-10 at 00:52:08 +0800:
> Hi!
>  
> Just downloaded knoppix3.4 iso (KNOPPIX_V3.4-2004-05-17-EN.iso)last night under 
> windows , 
> I have many times used the FAQ located at 
> (http://www.knoppix.net/docs/index.php/HdBasedHowTo) 
> to install the KNOPPIX 3.4 from my hard drive instead of from CDROM. 
> 
> I extracted KNOPPIX( by Deamon tool3.46) to D:\KNOPPIX\ .
> 
> strangly  I found knoppix3.4 doesn't contain "mkfloppy.bat"& "boot-en.img" anymore. 
> later I tried "mkfloppy.bat"& "boot-en.img" from KNOPPIX3.0 cd ,it just couldn't 
> find knoopix file on 
> "D:"(hda3)I just stalled there 

The problem is that the kernel has grown beyond the size
of a standard 1.4MB floppy diskette.  It may still be
possible to boot using two diskettes, but I have not
yet looked into this possibility---look through the
"Knoppix" menu and see if you find anything there.

The old procedure with a single floppy will certainly 
not work any more.

> later on I tried with Booting from the Knoppix3.0 CD 
> == 
> knoppix26 bootfrom=/dev/hda12/Downloads/KNOPPIX_V3.4-2004-05-17.iso 
> =
> it returned with: no such kernel.

This is doomed to failure, because the kernel on Knoppix3.0
is different from the kernel on Knoppix3.4.  This should work
however, if you use the Knoppix3.4 CD to boot the Knoppix3.4
iso-image.

> What should i do to install from HD properly?any more concise methods? 
> pls. inform the actual commands step by step! 

My advice is to burn Knoppix3.4 and use the CD to boot the hard disk image,
with the boot option you have written above.  Once you have booted,
you can remove the CD from the tray.  If you have trouble with knoppix26,
try instead

knoppix bootfrom=/dev/hda12/Downloads/KNOPPIX_V3.4-2004-05-17.iso

Conrad


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Re: Problem with valgrind: auxv ?

[Aprotim Sanyal]

Yeah - I figured it out right after emailing you.  I have no idea why
the Debian install defaulted to a 2.2 kernel.
-Aprotim

On Wed, 2004-06-09 at 16:01, Armin Jöllenbeck wrote:
> On Wednesday 09 June 2004 17:12, Aprotim Sanyal wrote:
> > Did you ever find out what this was?
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I have updated my kernel from 2.2.25 to 2.4.25. This has solved the 
> problem for me (not really understanding why). Might be, you have 
> installed an kernel of the 2.2 
> series too.
> 
> Armin
> 


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kdevelop & KDE

[Marie Regine SAPIR]

Hi,

I tried to install some KDE packages from the KDE website, and now get these errors:

Invalid entry (missing '=') at /usr/bin/designer:8
kio (KService*): WARNING: The desktop entry file /usr/bin/designer has no Name

I think I've messed up KDE somehow, but I can't figure out what the problem is. I've 
tried uninstalling the packages and reinstalling the ones from the Debian site, but 
that didn't help. Somehow the more I try out ideas I find by googling, the more I seem 
to break things :-((

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Re: Problem with valgrind: auxv ?

[Armin Jöllenbeck]

On Wednesday 09 June 2004 17:12, Aprotim Sanyal wrote:
> Did you ever find out what this was?

Hello,

I have updated my kernel from 2.2.25 to 2.4.25. This has solved the 
problem for me (not really understanding why). Might be, you have 
installed an kernel of the 2.2 
series too.

Armin


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Re: woody kde fonts

[David Sanders]

On Wednesday 09 June 2004 01:29 pm, Clive Menzies wrote:
> On (09/06/04 10:12), Jason Kretzer wrote:
> > Which fonts must I install for the fonts in KDE to not
> > look so bad?
> >
> > -Jason
>
> Rob Weir produced the following excellent guide:
>
> http://egads.ertius.org/~rob/font_guide.txt
>
> I found it v. useful ;)
>
> Regards
>
> Clive
also look at:
http://corefonts.sourceforge.net/
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Re: details pls: Dynamic MMap ran out of room

[Chris Metzler]

On Wed, 9 Jun 2004 15:21:30 -0400
Mike M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Following up this:
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2004/05/msg00612.html
> 
> I was wondering what this magic is doing:
> 
> # echo 'APT::Cache-Limit "25165824";' >> /etc/apt/apt.conf
> 
> which works for me, BTW. I have 512MB RAM.
> 
> I loaded Woody and was updating as part of the process of
> upgrading to testing then to unstable.
> 
> How'd you get the number? 

. . .which is 24MB.  I'm not sure there is any special reason.
I have half that value in mine.  It simply has to be "large
enough."


> Where is the problem? Testing? It seems so because removing
> testing and unstable references from the sources.list 
> avoids the problem. Opening up only testing finds the problem.

The problem isn't testing or unstable.  The problem is simply
having lots of sources and packages and versions to keep track
of.  The fewer sources/versions in your sources.list file,
the less memory apt needs to build the cache file of packages
available.

-c

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Nokia Cardphone under Linux 2.6.x

[Søren Boll Overgaard]

Hi,

I am trying to get my Nokia Cardphone working with a 2.6.6 kernel on Debian
unstable. So far I've been unsuccessful.
All the documentation I've come across via Google (including the driver 
distributed by Nokia) is for the 2.4.x series, and as far as I can tell isn't
working/compiling with 2.6-series kernels.

Obviously I would love to hear from you if you have a Cardphone working with a
2.6 kernel, but I would also appreciate any pointers that you might be able to
offer.

Thanks.

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Re: Cobalt

[J. Preiss]

Well I tried it. I installed the debootstrap on Mandrake 9.[0][1], dont 
know exactly. I changed the partition table before, but somehow it booted 
anyway. Cool. 
I mounted the partition of mandrake's root to /mnt/debinst. Maybe that was the 
fault. Then I called debootstrap and it downloaded many things. After all, it 
run into an error "GLIBC_PRIVATE not found. And mandrake does not want to 
boot with a kernel panic, same error.
Maybe I should have use another partition, but the drive has only 2G, and put 
in another drive is not possible.

Lets see what happens if I try it with disks... 


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Re: Stalled AT Poor Man's install with KNOPPIX 3.4

[John Fleming]

>
> To boot from hard-disk, you have to install it on disk first.
>
> 1. boot the system using Knoppix-3.4 cd
> 2. on boot prompt choose
>   knoppix26 lang=en
>(kernel-2.6.5)
> 3. in the console window type
>cp /usr/sbin/knoppix-installer .
>sudo ./knoppix-installer
>(follow it from there..)
>

You can also just:
1.  Boot from the CD
2.  When it stops at the KDE login, just open a terminal and type
knoppix-installer and it will begin the installation.

The installer will allow a dual boot configuration, and will also present
you with a menu at bootup where you can pick a 2.4 kernel or a 2.6 kernel.

-John


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details pls: Dynamic MMap ran out of room

[Mike M]

Following up this:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2004/05/msg00612.html

I was wondering what this magic is doing:

# echo 'APT::Cache-Limit "25165824";' >> /etc/apt/apt.conf

which works for me, BTW. I have 512MB RAM.

I loaded Woody and was updating as part of the process of
upgrading to testing then to unstable.

How'd you get the number? 

Where is the problem? Testing? It seems so because removing
testing and unstable references from the sources.list 
avoids the problem. Opening up only testing finds the problem.

What is the problem?  I know there's not enough memory
allocated. More details would be interesting (I think).

Oddly, the solution to the problem is well covered in cached
email and the APT HOWTO:
http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-erros.en.html#s-erros-comuns
What is not covered are the questions above.
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Re: php4+mssql

[Derrick 'dman' Hudson]

On Tue, Jun 08, 2004 at 03:07:43PM -0300, Mauro Romano Trajber wrote:
| Hi all,
| Im an debian unstable user and i trying to install php4 with mssql (MS
| SQL Server)support via apt-get.
| Everything works in my box(apache,php...) but i need mssql support in php.
| How can i do that via apt-get ???

Use sqlrelay.  sqlrelay provides a client library that you will use to
connect to the sqlrelay server.  The sqlrelay server then has the
db-specific client to connect to various databases included MS SQL
Server.

http://sqlrelay.sourceforge.net/

In addition to separating the application from the db library,
sqlrelay allows connection caching as well as relaying between
systems/subnets.  (For example, if you don't put your Windows SQL
Server on the public internet but you need to connect to it from
something not on the lan, you can put the sqlrelay server on the
gateway machine and let it tie the external client to the internal
server.)

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Re: Driver S3 Pro SavageDDR (long, with XF86Config)

[John Redmond]

On (09/06/04 15:02), Guilherme Rocha_Sul Solu??es wrote:

> 
> In my pc I don't can run the kde correctly, I make some modifications in the
> X server and now I can start the X, but only with 8 bits, so the screen is
> not valid, and the text mode is better than graphic in this mode.
> 
> In debian site I read some doc's about this problem.
> 
> My video card is S3 Pro SavageDDR
> My Xserver is SVGA (I make tests with the Xserver-xfree86 and Xfre86-S3 and
> tests bad)
> 
> What the correct configuration for this card???
> 

I have this card (I think, my motherboard is an ECS K7VMM+)
I have attached my XF86Config which work fine under slackware and my
current Debian (knoppix 3.4 hd install) I am using the straight XFree
server that comes with Knoppix, but I used this successfully with
Slack 9.0 which has XFree 4.3.0 so anything that vintage or newer
_should_ work.

Depending on your version of XFree
you may already have the driver, or still need to install it. 

Warning!
Don't just
copy this, check the monitor section carefully using wrong settings
there (which mine probably are for your monitor) can kill your monitor I
have been told. Search for ProSavage to find the relevant section.  check the:
"useBIOS" "no"   in that section --  It is correct, and it's absence
might be your  problem with this
board, search Google.

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# File generated by xf86config.

#
# Copyright (c) 1999 by The XFree86 Project, Inc.
#
# Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaining a
# copy of this software and associated documentation files (the "Software"),
# to deal in the Software without restriction, including without limitation
# the rights to use, copy, modify, merge, publish, distribute, sublicense,
# and/or sell copies of the Software, and to permit persons to whom the
# Software is furnished to do so, subject to the following conditions:
# 
# The above copyright notice and this permission notice shall be included in
# all copies or substantial portions of the Software.
# 
# THE SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED "AS IS", WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, EXPRESS OR
# IMPLIED, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY,
# FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE AND NONINFRINGEMENT.  IN NO EVENT SHALL
# THE XFREE86 PROJECT BE LIABLE FOR ANY CLAIM, DAMAGES OR OTHER LIABILITY,
# WHETHER IN AN ACTION OF CONTRACT, TORT OR OTHERWISE, ARISING FROM, OUT OF
# OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE SOFTWARE OR THE USE OR OTHER DEALINGS IN THE
# SOFTWARE.
# 
# Except as contained in this notice, the name of the XFree86 Project shall
# not be used in advertising or otherwise to promote the sale, use or other
# dealings in this Software without prior written authorization from the
# XFree86 Project.
#

# **
# Refer to the XF86Config(4/5) man page for details about the format of 
# this file.
# **

# NOTE:  This is a NEW IMPROVED version of XF86Config-fbdev that uses the vesa
# driver instead of the fbdev driver.  Thanks to Kenneth Fanyo who pointed
# this out to me. :)

# This XF86Config file is designed for use with the VESA framebuffer.
# This generic interface should work with nearly all video cards
# (although not every card will support every resolution).

# With the new driver, it should no longer be required to have frame buffer
# support in the kernel, or to run it on the console.
#
# Enjoy! :)
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# **
# Module section -- this  section  is used to specify
# which dynamically loadable modules to load.
# **
#
Section "Module"

# This loads the DBE extension module.

Load"dbe"   # Double buffer extension

# This loads the miscellaneous extensions module, and disables
# initialisation of the XFree86-DGA extension within that module.
SubSection  "extmod"
  Option"omit xfree86-dga"   # don't initialise the DGA extension
EndSubSection

# This loads the font modules
Load"type1"
Load"freetype"
Load"speedo"

# This loads the GLX module
Load   "glx"

EndSection

# **
# Files section.  This allows default font and rgb paths to be set
# **

Section "Files"

# The location of the RGB database.  Note, this is the name of the
# file minus the extension (like ".txt" or ".db").  There is normally
# no need to change the default.

RgbPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb"

# Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (which are concatenated together),
# as well as specifying multiple comma-separated entries in one FontPath
# command (or a combination of both methods)
# 
# If you don't have a floating point coprocessor

Re: Dear Debian Maintainers (usability)

[J. Preiss]

> For example either of the following
> aptitude search console
> apt-cache search console config
>
>  produces among other things:
>
> console-common - Basic infrastructure for text console configuration
>

Nice hint, thanks. But "network config" shows too many entries... anyway, edit 
the interfaces works, too.

> Thats true, some things are harder/easier then others. Locales can be a
> problem for people new to linux, although IIRC the kde setup has
> something on these when you first start kde.

I wanted to search for some man pages about locales with synaptic... but there 
is so much docu, I did not find it. I'll try it later with a filter search.
Gosh, there are so many packages

I hope there is a bigbigbig howto about that. If nothing helps I'll google.

>
> Changing the keyboard through X (xkb) is a bit more advanced (IIRC some
> if the gui X setup programs help you with that) but thats why both kde
> and gnome include the keyboard switching applets by default.

Kde itself seems not to be the problem, only the missing LANG-settings or 
something like that.

>
> > A menu which handles the calls for dpkg is urgently needed.
>
> Thats right, setup menus and utilities are not one of debian's strong
> points since when people get to the point when they can contribute it
> usually isn't the part that bothers them.
>
> Hopefully it will be the next project after the installer ;-)
Maybe it helps that yast is (or will be) open source?


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Re: can't access postfix pop

[John Redmond]

On (09/06/04 13:55), Ignatz Sol wrote:

> 
> You are correct for as much as I explained.  The box needs to:
> 
> 1) serve as the SMTP gateway to local users

If you by gateway you mean that the box in question - Box A) is the
final destination for mail sent to your domain (highest priority in MX
record) you _do_ need postfix. For outbound mail if it is just a few clients
they _could_ just configure their mail clients with the name of your ISP
mail server and send it directly themselves. But if it's any size LAN
you're probably right to install Postfix and have them send through it.
As you noted your original post didn't mention all aspects of the
situation. 

> 2) fetch remote mail from pop servers and store it until the local
> user requests it

This was in your original post and I think my previous reply has addressed it.

> 3) detect when mail is sent locally to someone else who is local and
> keep it local, i.e. if [EMAIL PROTECTED] sends mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I want
> the box to just keep it
>
Ahh.. well, this might preclude dropping postfix even if your SMTP
gateway only needs to receive mail. Do you run a local dns server?

> I was under the impression that SMTP would require postfix, but if I
> can get away without it that might be cool too.  Later I want to add
> SpamAssassin as well.
Your impression is correct but as noted above your original q. didn't
make it 100% clear that you needed it. Apologies for confusion on my
part.
> 
> None of this is difficult.  I had it working before in woody.  I
> upgraded to sarge and had some problems, so I reinstalled sarge.  I
> was at the beginning of development, so I figured it wouldn't be hard
> to remake everything.  But now I can't get it to work!  Can anyone
> help me?

All the best, sorry I couldn't be more helpful.

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Re: Stalled AT Poor Man's install with KNOPPIX 3.4

[Ishwar Rattan]

To boot from hard-disk, you have to install it on disk first.

1. boot the system using Knoppix-3.4 cd
2. on boot prompt choose
knoppix26 lang=en
   (kernel-2.6.5)
3. in the console window type
   cp /usr/sbin/knoppix-installer .
   sudo ./knoppix-installer
   (follow it from there..)

-ishwar

On Thu, 10 Jun 2004, ts wrote:

> Hi!
>
> Just downloaded knoppix3.4 iso (KNOPPIX_V3.4-2004-05-17-EN.iso)last night under 
> windows ,
> I have many times used the FAQ located at
> (http://www.knoppix.net/docs/index.php/HdBasedHowTo)
> to install the KNOPPIX 3.4 from my hard drive instead of from CDROM.
>
> I extracted KNOPPIX( by Deamon tool3.46) to D:\KNOPPIX\ .
>
> strangly  I found knoppix3.4 doesn't contain "mkfloppy.bat"& "boot-en.img" anymore.
> later I tried "mkfloppy.bat"& "boot-en.img" from KNOPPIX3.0 cd ,it just couldn't 
> find knoopix file on
> "D:"(hda3)I just stalled there
>
> later on I tried with Booting from the Knoppix3.0 CD
> ==
> knoppix26 bootfrom=/dev/hda12/Downloads/KNOPPIX_V3.4-2004-05-17.iso
> =
> it returned with: no such kernel.
>
> What should i do to install from HD properly?any more concise methods?
> pls. inform the actual commands step by step!
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> Regards!
>
> TOM
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sarge dvd iso

[Jacques]

Hi there,
I'm a slackware user interested in trying Debian so I'm currently 
downloading the dvd iso from fsn.hu ftp site.

1. Can anyone let me know if this iso is an installable debian image ? I 
grabbed the sid dvd iso but it ain't install. Someone told me it is to 
upgrade a GNU/Linux box from woody or sarge to sid.

2. Which version of kde and Qt is in sarge ? I need Qt >= 3.2.3 (and 
possibly Qt3.3 would be better) for a work on an free documentation 
project (regarding C++ programming).

Thanks for any help.
Regards,
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mouse wheel [was Re: Im reposting because it didn't send]

[Ralph Katz]

On 06/09/04 02:30, Glenn Meehan wrote:
 > I haven't got my mouse wheel working though it's not a big issue for me.
Cheers!
Glenn
I, too, had trouble with that!  My solution, finally, for a ps2 mouse was:
dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86
Choose ImPS2 for mouse.
Your mileage may vary, as they say, but that may be a good starting point.
Regards,
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Re: After 2.4.x ->2.6.3 upgrade in Sarge, Mozilla is unusable (long pauses)

[Ignatz Sol]

> 
> apt-file is a separate package that may not be installed on your system.
> 

You are right I had to install it.


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cannot modprobe toshiba_acpi

[Kamaraju Kusumanchi]

Hi I have a toshiba satellite p25-s507. I am running Debian/testing. As 
root if I do

# modprobe toshiba_acpi
FATAL: Error inserting toshiba_acpi 
(/lib/modules/2.6.5-1-686-smp/kernel/drivers/acpi/toshiba_acpi.ko): No 
such device

Here is the system information
# ls -al /lib/modules/2.6.5-1-686-smp/kernel/drivers/acpi/toshiba_acpi.ko
-rw-r--r--1 root root 8527 2004-04-30 07:10 
/lib/modules/2.6.5-1-686-smp/kernel/drivers/acpi/toshiba_acpi.ko

# uname -a
Linux kusumanchi 2.6.5-1-686-smp #2 SMP Fri Apr 30 20:35:03 EST 2004 
i686 GNU/Linux

# acpi -V
 Battery 1: discharging, 75%, charging at zero rate - will never 
fully charge.
No support for device type: thermal
  AC Adapter 1: off-line

# cat /etc/default/acpid
# Specify options for acpid startup, Debian default is to enable the
# use of sockets at a non-default position
OPTIONS="-s /var/run/acpid.socket"
# Specify modules to load on acpid's startup
# MODULES may be uncommented to load "none", contain the string "all"
# to load all acpi related modules or simply a space seperated list
# of modules to be probed.
MODULES="battery ac processor button fan thermal"
/boot/config-2.6.5-1-686-smp looks as follows
#
# ACPI (Advanced Configuration and Power Interface) Support
#
CONFIG_ACPI=y
CONFIG_ACPI_BOOT=y
CONFIG_ACPI_INTERPRETER=y
CONFIG_ACPI_SLEEP=y
CONFIG_ACPI_SLEEP_PROC_FS=y
CONFIG_ACPI_AC=m
CONFIG_ACPI_BATTERY=m
CONFIG_ACPI_BUTTON=m
CONFIG_ACPI_FAN=m
CONFIG_ACPI_PROCESSOR=m
CONFIG_ACPI_THERMAL=m
CONFIG_ACPI_ASUS=m
CONFIG_ACPI_TOSHIBA=m
# CONFIG_ACPI_DEBUG is not set
CONFIG_ACPI_BUS=y
CONFIG_ACPI_EC=y
CONFIG_ACPI_POWER=y
CONFIG_ACPI_PCI=y
CONFIG_ACPI_SYSTEM=y
CONFIG_X86_PM_TIMER=y
Can anyone help me as to why I am not able to load toshiba_acpi module? 
I searched the web but could not find anything. Any suggestion/pointers 
are most welcome.

thanks
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Driver S3 Pro SavageDDR.

[Guilherme Rocha_Sul Soluções]

Hello friends,

In my pc I don't can run the kde correctly, I make some modifications in the
X server and now I can start the X, but only with 8 bits, so the screen is
not valid, and the text mode is better than graphic in this mode.

In debian site I read some doc's about this problem.

My video card is S3 Pro SavageDDR
My Xserver is SVGA (I make tests with the Xserver-xfree86 and Xfre86-S3 and
tests bad)

What the correct configuration for this card???


Thank's  

Guilherme Rocha
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Re: Mozilla thunderbird crashes when opening attachments

[Ralph Katz]

On 06/08/04 22:50, Mal Beaton wrote:
apt-cache show mozilla-thunderbird
Package: mozilla-thunderbird
Priority: optional
Section: mail
Installed-Size: 31944
Maintainer: Alexander Sack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Architecture: i386
Version: 0.6-2
When trying to open attachments mozilla-thunderbird closes. The
attachements do not open
In Tools > Options > Attachments
the area
File Types
Automatically perform the associated action with each of the following
file types
is empty and there is no way to add an action
in mozilla-firefox it defaults to the kde file open dialog
I am using debian unstable + kde 3.2.2
can anyone point me in the right direction

I'm using debian unstable + parts of gnome 2.4
I believe the Tools > Options > Attachments "dialog" you describe is 
only functional for changing actions.  Set the desired action with the 
"open" dialog.

To open attachments, right click on the attachment filename in the 
message window;
or the pull-down menu: file -> attachments -> [file name] -> open / save as

I like: Right click -> open/ save as/ save all ->
open -> "You have chosen to open [filename] from: [mailbox filename]
which is a: [pdf, Microsoft Word, etc] document"
"What should Thunderbird do with this file?"
-> open with (pull down showing default, or choose other)
-> save to disk
-> Check box "Do this automatically for files like this from now on."
This is where I set defaults.
As for the application closing when you attempt this, there is a mozilla 
 bug that crashes apps when a corrupted bitmap image is opened.  Have 
you looked at the bug reports?
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=mozilla-thunderbird

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Re: Administrative rights for special task

[Adam Aube]

Debian Users wrote:

> I would like to give a regular user the rights to do the following on a
> Debian system:
> 
> 1) Install a (secure) ldap server
> 2) Test the server
> 3) Fill in the address "data base" for this server
> 
> Question: Does this user need full root privileges on this machine? Even
> though this is only a test machine, I would rather not have him the rights
> to change passwords and see users files.

You will probably have to install it yourself, but the other two tasks can
be controlled using sudo by limiting the commands the user can run.

Adam


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Re: can't access postfix pop

[Ignatz Sol]

On Wed, 9 Jun 2004 11:23:10 -0400, John Redmond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> 
> On (09/06/04 10:52), Ignatz Sol wrote:
> 
> > I'm having some trouble with something that should be very simple.
> > I've got postfix running on a box with sarge.  Just building a local
> > mailserver.  Fetchmail is grabbing mails off of the internet and doing
> > fine.  I can ssh into the box and read mail.  But I can't get outlook
> > to login to the pop server.  Nor can I telnet into the box on port 110
> > to try to do it manually.  Seems like port 110 may not be open??  But
> > why would that be?  I have installed postfix before and remember it
> > being pretty straightforward.  I have tried dpkg-reconfiguring to be
> > sure that nothing obvious has been overlooked.  mynetworks is set to
> > subnet.  What am I missing??
> >
> > Thanks!
> 
> Sendmail is an stmp server, listening on port 25 you need to install a pop3
> server which listens on port 110. (or at least activate one that may
> already be installed).
> 
> I am assuming from your description that the box in Q (box A) is on your lan
> with a fetchmail daemon pulling your mail from remote server. You want
> to collect this mail from another box on your lan (Box B) If so you don't even
> need Postfix on Box A. Fetchmail can use procmail to
> deliver it to your local accounts then (once you've got the POP3 server
> going on box A) you login through outlook or whatever (from box B) to get the mail.
> 
> Hope I have understood you correctly. If not, apologies.
> 
> John
> 

You are correct for as much as I explained.  The box needs to:

1) serve as the SMTP gateway to local users
2) fetch remote mail from pop servers and store it until the local
user requests it
3) detect when mail is sent locally to someone else who is local and
keep it local, i.e. if [EMAIL PROTECTED] sends mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I want
the box to just keep it

I was under the impression that SMTP would require postfix, but if I
can get away without it that might be cool too.  Later I want to add
SpamAssassin as well.

None of this is difficult.  I had it working before in woody.  I
upgraded to sarge and had some problems, so I reinstalled sarge.  I
was at the beginning of development, so I figured it wouldn't be hard
to remake everything.  But now I can't get it to work!  Can anyone
help me?


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Re: After 2.4.x ->2.6.3 upgrade in Sarge, Mozilla is unusable (long pauses)

[Adam Aube]

Ignatz Sol wrote:

> On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 11:43:02 -0400, Adam Aube <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> The dnsutils package. "apt-file search dig" found it for me.
>> 
> 
> Thanks.  I tried apt-cache search dig but didn't see it.  I really
> need to learn all the nuances of the apt commands.  They continue to
> surprise me.

apt-file is a separate package that may not be installed on your system.

Adam


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Re: swap problem

[Anthony Campbell]

On 09 Jun 2004, Kolione wrote:
> i am running and older version of sarge,(havent upgraded in a while) and
> my swap will not mount, i get
> mount: mount point none does not exist
> the relevant part from my /etc/fstab
> 
> /dev/hda2   noneswapsw  0 0
> 
> im wondering what i have missed, everything seems to be in order,
> checked google to no avail
> any information would be appreciated.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> 

Are you using a 2.6 kernel? On changing to this recently from 2.4 I had
exactly the same experience as you. After fiddling for a bit without
success I did mkswap on the relevant /dev and I could then mount it
without difficulty. I don't know why this should be but it's what
happened.

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/etc/ppp/pap-secrets default

[petereasthope]

 If I'm not confused, these two lines are in the 
default Woody pap-secrets file.

# Evey regular user can use PPP ...
*  (none)  ""  *

Can anyone explain why the server entry is (none)
rather than *?  

Thanks,  Peter E.


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Re: Administrative rights for special task

[Jason Kretzer]

try this...

man sudo


sudo allows a user to perform a specific action with
root priveliges.

HTH,

-Jason


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> 
> I would like to give a regular user the rights to do
> the following on a
> Debian system:
> 
> 1) Install a (secure) ldap server
> 2) Test the server
> 3) Fill in the address "data base" for this server
> 
> Question: Does this user need full root privileges
> on this machine? Even
> though this is only a test machine, I would rather
> not have him the rights
> to change passwords and see users files.
> 
> My hunch is, there is no other way but lending him
> full root access, but I
> would be delighted to hear your wisdom!
> 
> Regards, Stefan
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Administrative rights for special task

[Debian Users]

Dear List,

I would like to give a regular user the rights to do the following on a
Debian system:

1) Install a (secure) ldap server
2) Test the server
3) Fill in the address "data base" for this server

Question: Does this user need full root privileges on this machine? Even
though this is only a test machine, I would rather not have him the rights
to change passwords and see users files.

My hunch is, there is no other way but lending him full root access, but I
would be delighted to hear your wisdom!

Regards, Stefan


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Re: woody kde fonts

[Clive Menzies]

On (09/06/04 10:12), Jason Kretzer wrote:
> 
> Which fonts must I install for the fonts in KDE to not
> look so bad? 
> 
> -Jason 
Rob Weir produced the following excellent guide:

http://egads.ertius.org/~rob/font_guide.txt

I found it v. useful ;)

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woody kde fonts

[Jason Kretzer]

Which fonts must I install for the fonts in KDE to not
look so bad? 

-Jason 





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Stalled AT Poor Man's install with KNOPPIX 3.4

[ts]

Hi!
 
Just downloaded knoppix3.4 iso (KNOPPIX_V3.4-2004-05-17-EN.iso)last night under 
windows , 
I have many times used the FAQ located at 
(http://www.knoppix.net/docs/index.php/HdBasedHowTo) 
to install the KNOPPIX 3.4 from my hard drive instead of from CDROM. 

I extracted KNOPPIX( by Deamon tool3.46) to D:\KNOPPIX\ .

strangly  I found knoppix3.4 doesn't contain "mkfloppy.bat"& "boot-en.img" anymore. 
later I tried "mkfloppy.bat"& "boot-en.img" from KNOPPIX3.0 cd ,it just couldn't find 
knoopix file on 
"D:"(hda3)I just stalled there 

later on I tried with Booting from the Knoppix3.0 CD 
== 
knoppix26 bootfrom=/dev/hda12/Downloads/KNOPPIX_V3.4-2004-05-17.iso 
=
it returned with: no such kernel.

What should i do to install from HD properly?any more concise methods? 
pls. inform the actual commands step by step! 

Thanks in advance! 

Regards! 

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Re: running fsck out of a script; drive never shows being checked

[CW Harris]

On Tue, Jun 08, 2004 at 08:51:51PM -0400, Silvan wrote:
> I'm wondering if I'm missing the point of something somehow.
> 
> I have a script that fscks hdb, then mounts it and makes a backup of hda.  I 
> run this as a nightly cron job, and it mails me a report every morning.
> 
> The associated bit of the script is:
> 
> echo running fsck on /dev/hdb partitions...
> echo start time: `date`
> 
> if ! (fsck -n /dev/hdb2); then
> echo "ERROR!  Problem encountered running fsck on /dev/hdb2!"
> echo "Abort, abort, abort!!!"
> exit 1
> fi
> 
> echo end time: `date`
> 
> The most recent report (and the 41 before it) claim the drive has never been 
> checked.
 

It sounds like a "feature".  From bug#249116:

Sender: Theodore Ts'o <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


So even if you fsck manually, in both cases, e2fsck will know when the
fsck was last done.

There's only one exception to this.  If you use e2fsck -n (or if you
use fsck -n, which passes the -n option to e2fsck), this explicitly
requests of e2fsck that **no** changes be made the the filesystem.
This includes trying to fix any filesystem corruptions, but it also
includes changing the superblock to the reflect the fact that e2fsck
was run in the first place.

- Ted

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Re: After 2.4.x ->2.6.3 upgrade in Sarge, Mozilla is unusable (long pauses)

[Ignatz Sol]

On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 11:43:02 -0400, Adam Aube <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Ignatz Sol wrote:
> 
> > This is off-topic, but I cannot find the package for dig.  Where do I
> > get this command for my sarge install?
> 
> The dnsutils package. "apt-file search dig" found it for me.
> 

Thanks.  I tried apt-cache search dig but didn't see it.  I really
need to learn all the nuances of the apt commands.  They continue to
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autogenerate Re: Website creating software

[Alvin Oga]

On Wed, 9 Jun 2004, S.D.A. wrote:

> I'm not knocking those using Vi, Vi(m) or Emacs, they're probably experts at
> writing raw HTML. However, I have my doubts, that way, works in an efficient
> standardized workflow, within a workgroup, where others are using Visual IDE's
> -- In fact I know it wouldn't, as we've tried it.

one has to enter the raw data some place ...
- vi is good for etnering data into the db

use # html.generate.pl   to create all the web pages on the fly
- and it'd create online forms too 
- and making global changes would be trivial
( like your company and address and ph# changes )

- use your fav programs ( perl, php, C ) to create web pages 
fast and efficiently

html pages has to be created by automated programs ... if one wants to
scale  and if one wants to be able to do interactive pages

c ya
alvin


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Please ignore this

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Re: After 2.4.x ->2.6.3 upgrade in Sarge, Mozilla is unusable (long pauses)

[Adam Aube]

Ignatz Sol wrote:

> This is off-topic, but I cannot find the package for dig.  Where do I
> get this command for my sarge install?

The dnsutils package. "apt-file search dig" found it for me.

Adam


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Re: Help! Printing is mostly non-working!

[CW Harris]

On Tue, Jun 08, 2004 at 02:53:50PM -0400, Marc Shapiro wrote:
> I hope that someone can help me with this problem.  About two weeks ago, 
> printing stopped working in Firefox, Thunderbird, Opera, OpenOffice, and 
> almost every other program that I use.
> 
> Kate (the editor) still prints, but a simple editor that I wrote, 
> myself, does not.  I can also print a file from the command line using 
> 'lp filename', or 'lpr filename'.  Commands such as 'ls | lp' do NOT 
> work, however.  This caused me to think that there might be a problem 
> with bash and piping from one command to another, but 'ls | more' works 
> just fine.
> 
> It is really annoying to have to print to a file, and then print the 
> file from the command line.
> 
> BTW: I am running Sarge with the debian stock 2.4.26-1-k7 kernel and 
> CUPS.  I am using cupsys-bsd, so that lp and lpr still work as the 
> programs were originally configured and this had been working for 
> several months untill this new problem occured.

What version of cups, cupsys-client are you using?

I don't know if this is of any use, but http://bugs.debian.org/163663
sounds similar (problem with printing from stdin), although it was
reportedly working with a later version of cupsys-client (that I think
you would be using in Sarge).

> 
> Since I can print with 'lpr filename' I know that the problem is not 
> with the printer.  Since CUPS (and cupsys-bsd) seems to work fine (I can 
> print a test print from the CUPS admin page through either Opera, or 
> Firefox even though the browsers' print functions don't work, 
> themselves) the problem does not appear to be there, either.  Also, I 
> don't beleive that there have been any recent updates to the CUPS packages.
> 
> I am at a loss as to what else to check.  If anyone has any ideas, or 
> has had this problem themselves, I would appreciate whatever help you 
> can provide.

Does this problem exist with other users (e.g. root)?
Maybe try with a different shell?
Check that /usr/bin/{lp,lpr} are not changed from the cupsys-client,bsd
packages?

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Re: Website creating software

[S.D.A.]

On Wed, Jun 09, 2004 at 01:27:07PM +0300 or thereabouts, Micha Feigin wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 08, 2004 at 10:14:47PM -0400, S.D.A. wrote:
 
> > Drifting away from Linux Visual Editors...
> > 
> > FrontPage 2003 is vastly superior to anything prior, in the FPage line.  I'm
> > definitely not a MSFT lover, but FP is closing the gap fast to DWMX. If I was
> > doing any .NET web applications, I'd be using FrontPage 2003 before DWMX.
> > 
> 
> The main problem with FrontPage and DWMX is that they tend to be very
> incompatible with anything other then explorer, especially when using
> dhtml and css, but also some features with regular html.

I don't agree with this, (sorry). One could say that about FrontPage in the
past, not really Dreamweaver, (in recent times). Modern HTML visual editors/IDEs
like Dreamweaver/FPage, excel at standards compliant XHTML, HTML/DHTML (DHTML is
bloated, but that's so the Javascript works in *all* browsers). It's always
going to be faster to use an IDE to manage large complex sites, in workgroups,
than it is going to be writing your own HTML in a text editor, and letting
others use their own favourite editors, within the same "group".  That's where
Dreamweaver/FrontPage show their advantages -- Rapid Deployment in an
integrated environment. 

I'm not knocking those using Vi, Vi(m) or Emacs, they're probably experts at
writing raw HTML. However, I have my doubts, that way, works in an efficient
standardized workflow, within a workgroup, where others are using Visual IDE's
-- In fact I know it wouldn't, as we've tried it.

It would be nice to see NVU or any GNU web dev app, evolve into something as
promising. For doing PHP, I simply love ZendStudio, but for doing the visual
part of the page, I prefer Dreamweaver over anything -- simply because it's
faster for "yours truly" to churn out pages in an efficient manner.

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Re: After 2.4.x ->2.6.3 upgrade in Sarge, Mozilla is unusable (long pauses)

[Kent West]

Ignatz Sol wrote:
This is off-topic, but I cannot find the package for dig.  Where do I
get this command for my sarge install?
 

dpkg -S dig (but this command may only work for already installed 
packages; I'm not sure)

dnsutils: /usr/bin/dig

So it looks like it's in "dnsutils".
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Re: Problem with valgrind: auxv ?

[Aprotim Sanyal]

Did you ever find out what this was?


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Re: can't access postfix pop

[John Redmond]

On (09/06/04 10:52), Ignatz Sol wrote:
 
> I'm having some trouble with something that should be very simple. 
> I've got postfix running on a box with sarge.  Just building a local
> mailserver.  Fetchmail is grabbing mails off of the internet and doing
> fine.  I can ssh into the box and read mail.  But I can't get outlook
> to login to the pop server.  Nor can I telnet into the box on port 110
> to try to do it manually.  Seems like port 110 may not be open??  But
> why would that be?  I have installed postfix before and remember it
> being pretty straightforward.  I have tried dpkg-reconfiguring to be
> sure that nothing obvious has been overlooked.  mynetworks is set to
> subnet.  What am I missing??
> 
> Thanks!

Sendmail is an stmp server, listening on port 25 you need to install a pop3 
server which listens on port 110. (or at least activate one that may
already be installed).

I am assuming from your description that the box in Q (box A) is on your lan
with a fetchmail daemon pulling your mail from remote server. You want
to collect this mail from another box on your lan (Box B) If so you don't even
need Postfix on Box A. Fetchmail can use procmail to
deliver it to your local accounts then (once you've got the POP3 server
going on box A) you login through outlook or whatever (from box B) to get the mail.

Hope I have understood you correctly. If not, apologies.

John

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Re: After 2.4.x ->2.6.3 upgrade in Sarge, Mozilla is unusable (long pauses)

[Ignatz Sol]

> at the bottom in the status frame, for about 40
> seconds. Thinking I maybe had some DNS setup problem,
> I tried typing "dig login.yahoo.com" at a shell prompt
> - it completed in less time than I could measure with
> a stopwatch, probably less than one second. The same
> is found with all URLs. It doesn't matter whether I do
> the "dig" before or after going to the site with
> Mozilla.


This is off-topic, but I cannot find the package for dig.  Where do I
get this command for my sarge install?

Thanks.


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Re: Website creating software

[Micha Feigin]

On Wed, Jun 09, 2004 at 07:47:08AM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote:
> Micha Feigin wrote:
> > The main problem with FrontPage and DWMX is that they tend to be very
> > incompatible with anything other then explorer, especially when using
> > dhtml and css, but also some features with regular html.
> 
> Eh?  Work in Dreamweaver, test in Mozilla and Opera, no problems thus far.
>  I don't even bother with IE.
> 

I tried making a popup menu activated by hovering over an image
map. Mozilla didn't even dream of trying to popup the menu.

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confused Re: running fsck out of a script; drive never shows being checked

[Alvin Oga]

hi ya silvan

On Tue, 8 Jun 2004, Silvan wrote:

> On Tuesday 08 June 2004 09:06 pm, Alvin Oga wrote:
> 
> That's 'cuz it's fsck, not fdisk.  :P

aint it fun, dumb of me, to look at the man pages of fdisk and talk about
e2fsck :-)  .. had a good night sleep afterward tho 
 
> So I should swap fsck for e2fsck for starters.

might be some differences between fsck and e2fsck
 
> It isn't mounted normally.  It isn't mounted before fscking it.

good... but i'd add the umount to the script, just to make sure
nothing breaks
 
> No, I shouldn't.  Especially since all 42 reports are completely uneventful 
> runs.  The "-n" option is supposed to keep it from doing anything without 
> asking me, and presumably if there ever *is* a problem, I'll see it the next 
> morning and can intervene manually.

wondering why you'd want to continuously ( daily ) check the fs ..
 
> > my guess is your script was not doing anything??
> 
> Maybe not.  Maybe the -n option keeps it from showing that it has been fscked.  
> Must be some filesystem flag or something to show that, and in 
> non-interactive mode it writes nothing.  I guess that means it writes 
> *nothing*.

interesting idea with fsck -n ...

sounds like the script didnt do anything, because when you mount(?) it,
it says ( running e2fsck since its been mounted 42 times w/o fsck'ing )
- a good sign, in this case

have fun
alvin


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Re: dual boot with lilo

[tpfeife1]

On Wed, Jun 09, 2004 at 10:07:31AM -0400, Mike M wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 09, 2004 at 03:40:01PM +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
> > On Wed, 2004-06-09 at 14:02, Mike M wrote:
> > 
> > Thanks for posting your instructions.
> 
> Now I know where to look for them.
> 
> The mkisofs is a thing of wonder.  The man page is huge and 
> full of mystical concepts. I am not qualified to expound on
> its use.  Nevertheless, I feel I should more fully qualify
> that I put the .iso into a new directory and cd'd to the dir
> before running mkisofs.  
> 
> > BTW, I think that the new debian-installer (for sid/unstable)
> > comes with grub as default - which might make new SID install CDs
> > particularly valuable as a rescue CD. Here's hopin.
> 
> That answers a question that was brewing in my head, "Why
> does Woody still use lilo when grub is the gnu way of the 
> future?" I presume the answer to be, "Woody is stable and
> grub is not stable." The gnu grub site indicates this clearly
> by stating the grub (known as legacy grub) is deprecated, and
> grub2 is available from CVS only.  That's a pretty good
> description of "not stable" IMO. grub2 would not complete
> the configure operation on a Woody workstation because of
> a library that was missing or outdated (LZO IIRC).

Also remember that Woody was originally released back in August 2002
(I believe), and frozen for quite a while before that. At that time,
Lilo was still generally considered to be the primary boot loader for
Linux. But once Debian makes a release, the only updates are for
security fixes, so the Woody boot loader wasn't going to change, even 
though Grub has become increasingly popular since then.



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After 2.4.x ->2.6.3 upgrade in Sarge, Mozilla is unusable (long pauses)

[halbtaxabo-njlinux]

I'm running Sarge and recently upgraded the kernel
from 2.4.26-1-k7 to 2.6.3-1-k7 (just using dselect).

Everything works, but Mozilla is now unusable. When I
go to a URL, it just sits there with (e.g.)

Resolving host login.yahoo.com

at the bottom in the status frame, for about 40
seconds. Thinking I maybe had some DNS setup problem,
I tried typing "dig login.yahoo.com" at a shell prompt
- it completed in less time than I could measure with
a stopwatch, probably less than one second. The same
is found with all URLs. It doesn't matter whether I do
the "dig" before or after going to the site with
Mozilla.

It's as though it's waiting for some stupid timeout.
But where do I look?

The output from uname -a is:
Linux Leo 2.6.3-1-k7 #2 Tue Feb 24 20:39:50 EST 2004
i686 GNU/Linux

Any ideas? Seen this before?
Nick Jacobs


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Re: swap problem

[Wayne Topa]

Kolione([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said:
> i am running and older version of sarge,(havent upgraded in a while) and
> my swap will not mount, i get 
> mount: mount point none does not exist
> the relevant part from my /etc/fstab
> 
#  
> /dev/hda2   noneswap  sw   0   0
> 
> im wondering what i have missed, everything seems to be in order,
> checked google to no avail
> any information would be appreciated.


Note the .  You don't mount the swap partition.

Wayne
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Re: Scrollable Terminal Window

[H. S.]

Apparently, _Barry Skidmore_, on 06/09/04 09:47,typed:
I am using WindowMaker with Debian (woody), and do not like the fact that the 
terminal windows are not scrollable.

Could someone please recommend a terminal package that has this feature?
Thanks,
Barry


How about a simple xterm and enabling it's scrollbar? BTW, if this 
doesn't answer your query, I have misunderstood your message. If so, 
forgive me and please clarify.

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