Re: TMDA considered harmful

[Monique Y. Mudama]

On 2004-07-13, Paul Johnson penned:
>
> So, in essence, TMDA's unfortunate creep in popularity is extremely
> harmful because it threatens to very quickly double or triple the
> damage spam causes.

Too bad I haven't found a filter program that comes anywhere close to
approaching the simplicity of tmda.  The rules are *so freaking easy* to
implement.  This is a good thing.

I don't use c/r, but I do use tmda's pending-message mechanism.  Instead
of challenging questionable messages, I "hold" them, which is an option
allowing me to leave them in the queue till I feel like dealing with
them.  I then have a cron job to periodically tell me if there's
anything new in it.  I like this setup and the fact that I can whitelist
an address straight from the queue interface.  Out of all the messages I
receive, only a handful get stuck in my pending queue, anyway -- I have
my filters and whitelists set well enough that the amount of
questionable messages is tiny.


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Install Difficulties

[Luke Kearney]

Hi,
I have been trying to install bf24 on my computer which is currently
multibooted with Win2K and FBSD. It currently has a copy of Sarge
running 2.2.20 on it and I would like to scrap and reload. I think I did
something fairly funky on the original install and apt-get is very
unreliable. I cannot apt-get install kernel-image-2.6.5 or any other
kernel version for that matter. When I try to partition the disk I get
an error complaining about not being able to re-read the partition table
and to reboot but after a reboot nothing is changed. Current partition
schema looks a bit like this:-

/dev/hda   win2k
/dev/hdb   FBSD

I am trying to install Deb on /hdc and /hdd . This may not be a wise
partitioning strategy but I am not yet familiar with the ins and outs of
installations of Debian. I have used and still use FBSD fairly
extensively but the install process bares little resemblance. I would be
most grateful if someone could point me to a HOWTO or offer some advice.
I have googled for this but nothing that directly relates seems to pop
up. 

TIA

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Re: Color Distortion in KDE

[Peter Bonucci]

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Jesse,

I've had the same problem, since the X update about a month ago.  It worked 
fine before that.  I also have the 855 GM video controller.

Thanks for the "menu effects" comment.  I hadn't realized I could shut it off 
that way -- I don't like transparent menus anyway.

Peter A. Bonucci


On Thursday 08 July 2004 6:35 am, Jesse Rosenthal wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> Apologies if this belongs on the user-kde list, but I'm not at all sure
> that it's isolated to KDE -- that's just where I've seen it.
>
> I'm running Debian Sid, and I have an odd problem with transparencies
> becoming color-distorted (reversed?) in KDE. To be more precise, when I
> highlight an icon, either by expanding a "mouse box" over it, or
> right-clicking it, the colors become quite distorted -- lots of orange, on
> blue icons. This is not the result of a recent upgrade -- I've had the
> problem since I installed Unstable about a month ago, but now I've pretty
> much exhausted my ability to find an answer in archives/google.
>
> As a further clue, when I go to the "menu effects" section of the style
> menu in the KDE control panel, I find that "Software Tint" and "Software
> Blend" will both lead to the same distortion, while "Xrender Blend" does
> not.
>
> As a test, I ran Knoppix 3.4 on my machine, and this problem did not occur.
> When I copied over the XF86Config-4 from Knoppix, though, I still had the
> problem. Thus I doubt it's a configuration error.
>
> In case it helps, though, here are my lspci output and my XF86Config-4:
>
> lspci
> :00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 82852/855GM Host Bridge (rev 02)
> :00:00.1 System peripheral: Intel Corp. 855GM/GME GMCH Memory I/O
> Control Registers (rev 02)
> :00:00.3 System peripheral: Intel Corp. 855GM/GME GMCH Configuration
> Process Registers (rev 02)
> :00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corp. 82852/855GM Integrated
> Graphics Device (rev 02)
> :00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corp. 82852/855GM Integrated
> Graphics Device (rev 02)
> :00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801DB (ICH4) USB UHCI #1 (rev
> 03) :00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801DB (ICH4) USB UHCI #2
> (rev 03) :00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801DB (ICH4) USB UHCI
> #3 (rev 03) :00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801DB (ICH4) USB2
> EHCI Controller (rev 03)
> :00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82801BAM/CAM PCI Bridge (rev 83)
> :00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82801DBM LPC Interface Controller (rev
> 03)
> :00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82801DBM (ICH4) Ultra ATA Storage
> Controller (rev 03)
> :00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corp. 82801DB/DBM (ICH4) SMBus Controller (rev
> 03) :00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801DB (ICH4)
> AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 03)
> :00:1f.6 Modem: Intel Corp. 82801DB (ICH4) AC'97 Modem Controller (rev
> 03)
> :01:0a.0 CardBus bridge: O2 Micro, Inc. OZ711M3 SmartCardBus
> MultiMediaBay Controller
> :01:0a.1 CardBus bridge: O2 Micro, Inc. OZ711M3 SmartCardBus
> MultiMediaBay Controller
> :01:0a.2 System peripheral: O2 Micro, Inc. OZ711Mx MultiMediaBay
> Accelerator
> :01:0a.3 CardBus bridge: O2 Micro, Inc. OZ711M3 SmartCardBus
> MultiMediaBay Controller
> :01:0c.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM5705M
> 10/100/1000Base T (rev 02)
> :01:0d.0 Network controller: Intel Corp. Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 2200BG
> (rev 05)
> :01:0e.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Texas Instruments TSB43AB21
> IEEE-1394a-2000 Controller (PHY/Link)
>
> and here's my XF86Config-4 (comments removed)
> Section "Files"
> FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc"
> FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic"
> FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled"
> FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled"
> FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1"
> FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/CID"
> FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo"
> FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi"
> FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi"
> FontPath"unix/:7100"# local font server
> EndSection
> Section "Module"
> Load"GLcore"
> Load"bitmap"
> Load"dbe"
> Load"ddc"
> Load"dri"
> Load"extmod"
> Load"freetype"
> Load"glx"
> Load"int10"
> Load"record"
> Load"speedo"
> Load"type1"
> Load"vbe"
> EndSection
> Section "InputDevice"
> Identifier  "Generic Keyboard"
> Driver  "keyboard"
> Option  "CoreKeyboard"
> Option  "XkbRules"  "xfree86"
> Option  "XkbModel"  "pc104"
> Option  "XkbLayout" "us"
> EndSection
> Section "InputDevice"
> Identifier  "Configured Mouse"
> Driver  "

Syslog filtering

[Ritesh Raj Sarraf]

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Hello all,
I've a couple of servers without monitors attached. My present
way of monitoring system logs on them is ssh. I want to
implement  Syslogs remote logging facility onto those machines
so that I can monitor all the logs on my Linux Desktop client.

Following is the procedure I follow:
Put *.* on all servers and do remote logging to my syslog
monitoring machine.

On Server:
*.* @my_syslog_monitor_machine

How can I, on my syslog machine, filter the syslog messages on
the basis of hosts. I mean I want logs from server "a" to be
redirected to /dev/tty2, server "b" to /dev/tty3 and so on.

Any suggestions would be of great help.

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Re: new to debian

[Kevin Mark]

On Mon, Jul 12, 2004 at 10:14:01PM -0700, Michael B. Levy wrote:
> Greetings.
> 
> I started using GNU/Linux two and a half years ago,
> and have been a (mostly) happy Mandrake user.  I had
> always wanted to try Debian for the ease of apt-get,
> and now that I have broadband, I wanted to switch.  I
> successfully installed Sarge on my machine over the
> weekend, and there are a few quirks I need to iron
> out.
> 
> 1)  I was going to copy my old /etc/fstab to the new
> installation, but I don't think that will work since
> to the best of my knowledge Debian doesn't use
> supermount or magicdev.  Is this correct?  I've never
> compiled a kernel before, and the idea of doing so is
> a challenge I look forward to overcoming.
> 
> 2)  The fstab that the Sarge installer created lists
> one of my cd drives three times with different mount
> points.  Why is this?
> 
> 3)  How do I figure out which /dev item corresponds to
> which drive?  I have a hdc and hdd.  Is hdc the master
> and hdd the slave?
> 
> This is just for starters.  I'm having good luck
> figuring everything else out on my own.
> 
> Answers to any or all of the above questions would be
> appreciated.
> 
> Mike
Hi Mike,
its been a long journey... from nylug to here!
Yes debian uses automount.
what entiries are there for supermount or magicdev?
Many people use the standard debian precompiled image but there are
debian tools to make debian kernel packages that are ... beyond easy!
someone will provide the link if needed.
debian seems to like /floppy and /cdrom and a few other odd things. some
of these are setup by the 'discover' package. and they can be disabled.
have fun with debian!
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Re: How to configure Gnome app color

[Magnus Therning]

On Mon, Jul 12, 2004 at 06:38:02PM -0400, * Tong* wrote:
>A silly question, How to configure the bg/fg color for Gnome/gtk
>applications? I think I could previously, but I can't find where to do
>it now. 

Isn't this part of the theme you are using? I suspect you'd have to
start modifying the theme definition. You might be able to use
~/.gtkrc.mine to override settings in the theme, but I can't quite
figure out how.

/M

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Re: new to debian

[ricktaylor]

> From: Michael B. Levy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

> 1) I was going to copy my old /etc/fstab to the new
> installation, but I don't think that will work since
> to the best of my knowledge Debian doesn't use
> supermount or magicdev. Is this correct? I've never
> compiled a kernel before, and the idea of doing so is
> a challenge I look forward to overcoming.

Is it right? Why not just edit it?

> 2) The fstab that the Sarge installer created lists
> one of my cd drives three times with different mount
> points. Why is this

What are the entries?

> 3) How do I figure out which /dev item corresponds to
> which drive? I have a hdc and hdd. Is hdc the master
> and hdd the slave?

Probably.

Type "mount"

:} Then type "mount --help"

{What are hda and hdb?}




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Re: Changing hostname

[Magnus Therning]

On Mon, Jul 12, 2004 at 05:57:16PM -0400, * Tong* wrote:
>Hi, 
>
>Quick question how to change hostname under debian? 
>
>I changed my /etc/hosts 
>from 
>127.0.0.1   cxmr   localhost
>to
>127.0.0.1   cxmr.dyndns.org localhost
>
>but why my hostname is still reporting merely 'cxmr'?  How to fix it?
>(Surely I've rebooted).

Run 'hostname -fqdn' and see if you FQDN is what you actually want :-)

Also, I would have modified the line to say the following:

 127.0.0.1   cxmr.dyndns.org cxmr localhost

Maybe that's unnecessary, I don't know.

/M

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Re: Mozilla/Firefox "PostScript/default" security problems

[Magnus Therning]

On Mon, Jul 12, 2004 at 05:48:32PM -0500, Brad Sims wrote:
>On Monday 12 July 2004 2:33 am, Magnus Therning wrote:
>> Will you put those packages somewhere where others can reach them as
>> well?
>
>Hrm, I need more webspace, my ISP only gives me about 10M
>
>If you roll your own, read the new developer how-to to learn how to
>make the debs version -99 that way apt won't try to replace them .
>
>BTW is there a painless way to set up a apt repository?  IE turn it
>loose on a directory of debs and it does the rest?  Also online manuals
>would be nice...

Take a look here:

 http://small.dropbear.id.au/docs/aptarchive.html

I put up a minimal apt-repo (only one package in it :-) using it as a
guide.

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Re: new to debian

[Kent West]

Michael B. Levy wrote:
3)  How do I figure out which /dev item corresponds to
which drive?  I have a hdc and hdd.  Is hdc the master
and hdd the slave?
 

On an IDE system with two IDE ports:
hda = master on IDE 0
hdb = slave on IDE 0
hdc = master on IDE 1
hdd = slave on IDE 1
You must have one of those newer Gateways or Dells that has the hard 
drive on the second IDE port for some reason. Does that serve some sort 
of purpose other than confusing people who have been putting the drive 
on the first IDE port since IDE was invented?

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Re: starting X hangs on network timeout (hosts file ignored)

[s. keeling]

Incoming from Steven Satelle:
> On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 17:58:40 +0300, Micha Feigin wrote:
> > 
> > [...] this is how it's supposed to work. host(1) is an
> > interface to the resolver library, which does not use /etc/hosts by design.
> > 
> > The problem is that it seems that a few other things seem to be
> > ignoring the /etc/hosts file also.
> 
> what package are you getting host from, I dont have it on my system. whats
> in your /etc/resolv.conf, mine has
> search personal.ie
> nameserver 192.168.1.1

If you want to augment that, it may be dependent on the
package/transport you use to set up your network.  I use pppd and I
see there's a /etc/ppp/resolv/provider that lists "nameserver
xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx" records to be used to create resolv.conf


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Re: what package to install a *working* X?

[John Summerfield]

Silvan wrote:
Once upon a time, on Woody, all I had to do was apt-get install konqueror, and 
that pulled in X, kdelibs, etc.

I've installed Sid a few different times lately (last few months), and I've 
always had problems getting X.  apt-get install kde pulls in xfree86-common, 
I think, but there's no X, no xinit, no xterm, etc.  I did an install today, 
and there was some breakage that made things even more difficult than usual.  
It was quite a pain in the ass getting an X server installed.  (I wound up 
having to add testing, unstable, *and* experimental to sources.list to get 
around all the broken deps and get everything I needed installed.)

Shouldn't there be one package, or one metapackage that installs a complete, 
working X server with all the support apps, all the screen fonts, etc. 
requires to make the thing useful?  If so, WTF is it?  And why doesn't 
installing konqueror or just any graphical application depend on the 
installation of a working X server anymore?  That hasn't been the case in 
months, and it seems completely broken and wrong-headed to me.  What good is 
konqueror if you can't run it?  Is there some way to run konqueror without an 
X server?  How about kdm?

 

Which xserver?
I install vnc on quite a few boxes. They don't need graphics cards. I 
don't run K on those boxes, but I could.

You don't have to have {x,g,k}dm either.
I suppose it's reasonable to barf if you have _no_ xserver, but it 
shouldn't mandate which one. Just like (IMV) Debian shouldn't inflict 
exim on us:-)


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Re: what package to install a *working* X?

[Alexander Schmehl]

* Silvan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [040713 06:49]:

> Shouldn't there be one package, or one metapackage that installs a complete, 
> working X server with all the support apps, all the screen fonts, etc. 
> requires to make the thing useful?

Yes, there is.


> If so, WTF is it?

x-window-system-core


> And why doesn't installing konqueror or just any graphical application
> depend on the installation of a working X server anymore?

Because you don't need a local running X server. You need just a X
server running somewhere.


> What good is konqueror if you can't run it?

But you can run it.


> Is there some way to run konqueror without an X server?

No. But you don't need a local x server.


> How about kdm?

The same.

At work I often run applications like Openoffice.org or gimp on a 
different computer, which is faster than my notebook. But I since nobody
sits in front of this, it doesn't have a X server installed.



Yours sincerely,
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Re: what package to install a *working* X?

[Kent West]

Silvan wrote:
Once upon a time, on Woody, all I had to do was apt-get install konqueror, and 
that pulled in X, kdelibs, etc.

I've installed Sid a few different times lately (last few months), and I've 
always had problems getting X.  apt-get install kde pulls in xfree86-common, 
I think, but there's no X, no xinit, no xterm, etc.
 


Shouldn't there be one package, or one metapackage that installs a complete, 
working X server with all the support apps, all the screen fonts, etc. 
requires to make the thing useful?  If so, WTF is it?

apt-get install x-window-system
 And why doesn't 
installing konqueror or just any graphical application depend on the 
installation of a working X server anymore?

Because sometimes you might want to server konqueror to a thin-ish 
client, without having X on the server.

 That hasn't been the case in 
months, and it seems completely broken and wrong-headed to me.  What good is 
konqueror if you can't run it?  Is there some way to run konqueror without an 
X server?

Sure; have a server machine, without X, that has konqueror on it. Have a 
client machine that has a minimal X setup, and then pull konqueror, et 
al, from the server.

 How about kdm?
 

I'm not sure, but I believe kdm can also be run on remote client 
machines without having the X server running on the server machine.

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new to debian

[Michael B. Levy]

Greetings.

I started using GNU/Linux two and a half years ago,
and have been a (mostly) happy Mandrake user.  I had
always wanted to try Debian for the ease of apt-get,
and now that I have broadband, I wanted to switch.  I
successfully installed Sarge on my machine over the
weekend, and there are a few quirks I need to iron
out.

1)  I was going to copy my old /etc/fstab to the new
installation, but I don't think that will work since
to the best of my knowledge Debian doesn't use
supermount or magicdev.  Is this correct?  I've never
compiled a kernel before, and the idea of doing so is
a challenge I look forward to overcoming.

2)  The fstab that the Sarge installer created lists
one of my cd drives three times with different mount
points.  Why is this?

3)  How do I figure out which /dev item corresponds to
which drive?  I have a hdc and hdd.  Is hdc the master
and hdd the slave?

This is just for starters.  I'm having good luck
figuring everything else out on my own.

Answers to any or all of the above questions would be
appreciated.

Mike




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RE: what package to install a *working* X?

[Ross Tsolakidis]

apt-get install x-window-system

good section on x here.
http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=2016


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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: what package to install a *working* X?

Once upon a time, on Woody, all I had to do was apt-get install
konqueror, and 
that pulled in X, kdelibs, etc.

I've installed Sid a few different times lately (last few months), and
I've 
always had problems getting X.  apt-get install kde pulls in
xfree86-common, 
I think, but there's no X, no xinit, no xterm, etc.  I did an install
today, 
and there was some breakage that made things even more difficult than
usual.  
It was quite a pain in the ass getting an X server installed.  (I wound
up 
having to add testing, unstable, *and* experimental to sources.list to
get 
around all the broken deps and get everything I needed installed.)

Shouldn't there be one package, or one metapackage that installs a
complete, 
working X server with all the support apps, all the screen fonts, etc. 
requires to make the thing useful?  If so, WTF is it?  And why doesn't 
installing konqueror or just any graphical application depend on the 
installation of a working X server anymore?  That hasn't been the case
in 
months, and it seems completely broken and wrong-headed to me.  What
good is 
konqueror if you can't run it?  Is there some way to run konqueror
without an 
X server?  How about kdm?

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what package to install a *working* X?

[Silvan]

Once upon a time, on Woody, all I had to do was apt-get install konqueror, and 
that pulled in X, kdelibs, etc.

I've installed Sid a few different times lately (last few months), and I've 
always had problems getting X.  apt-get install kde pulls in xfree86-common, 
I think, but there's no X, no xinit, no xterm, etc.  I did an install today, 
and there was some breakage that made things even more difficult than usual.  
It was quite a pain in the ass getting an X server installed.  (I wound up 
having to add testing, unstable, *and* experimental to sources.list to get 
around all the broken deps and get everything I needed installed.)

Shouldn't there be one package, or one metapackage that installs a complete, 
working X server with all the support apps, all the screen fonts, etc. 
requires to make the thing useful?  If so, WTF is it?  And why doesn't 
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installation of a working X server anymore?  That hasn't been the case in 
months, and it seems completely broken and wrong-headed to me.  What good is 
konqueror if you can't run it?  Is there some way to run konqueror without an 
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Re: help! dselect wants to remove everything!

[Alex Malinovich]

On Mon, 2004-07-12 at 22:27, Greg Folkert wrote:
> On Mon, 2004-07-12 at 22:35, William F. Dudley Jr. wrote:
> > I was trying to figure out why xsane was dumping core,
> > and fiddling with package selections using dselect,
> > and now dselect wants to uninstall most of the packages:
> 
> DO NOT USE dselect!

I would have to disagree with this. I use apt-get (well, wajig to be
precise) to do upgrades, but dselect to do managed dist-upgrades.
dselect will actually show me what depends on what and let me take care
of it sanely. And it has the nifty little feature of showing you what's
new so that you don't miss cool new packages that might have been added
since your last upgrade.

> Other than refreshing available... dselect is dead for me !!! 

Sorry to hear it. I find dselect to be a great tool. I don't use it
nearly as much as I used to, but I still start it up at least once a
month to do a dist-upgrade and check out what's new. The rest of the
time I just use wajig. (I need to send a Graham Williams a big THANK YOU
packet or something one of these days. :)

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Re: Re: Xserver aborts when idle

[Hendrik Boom]

On Mon, Jul 12, 2004 at 11:56:11PM -0400, disciple wrote:
> Booted laptop.  At the prompt I did:  $ xset s off  ...  Got error:
> xset: unable to open display " "
> 
> I then started X and opened a terminal window.  I did $ xset s off and 
> did not get an error, it just put back at the prompt.  X still aborted.  
> I rebooted my laptop and tried again still aborted.  I have noticed 
> that it crashes at about 20 minutes after being left idle.  This does 
> not happen with my PC, only the laptop.
> 

I have the crash after 20 minutes problem on a machine where I run gdm
and gnome.

I have no solution either.

It's a PC, not a laptop.  It uses an ATI Radeon 8500DV video card,
and I'm running it in VGA mode for lack of better drivers.

It does not happen on my other machine, where I am running xdm and icewm.

I'm running gdm on the first machine because X crashed immediately when I
used kdm -- kdm wouldn't come up at all.  Maybe that's a related problem?

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Where are CUPS Brother drivers?

[Hendrik Boom]

I installed the CUPS drivers for a Brother network printer on a Debian
machine the other week, and it worked *perfectly* using the driver for
the HL-1670N, even though the printer is an HL-1870N.

Now I am trying to install the same CUPS drivers on another Debian machine
on the same LAN, and CUPS web administration can't seem to find drivers
for any Brother printer.

Both machines run woody.

When it gets to the point of asking me about "Model/Driver for laser"
(I called the printer "laser") I get a choice of Raw, Canon, Dymo, Epson, HP,
Lexmark, and Okidata.  Brother does not appear on the list.

Just to be sure, I went back to the first computer, where it all still
works *perfectly*, ran through the web configuration again, and Brother
does appear on the list there.

Evidently, I left something out during the second install -- probably
some or other package.

Which one might it be?

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Re: Re: Xserver aborts when idle

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Booted laptop.  At the prompt I did:  $ xset s off  ...  Got error:
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I then started X and opened a terminal window.  I did $ xset s off and 
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Re: recommendations for a content filter on debian...

[John Summerfield]

Ross Tsolakidis wrote:
Hi all,
I'm looking to setup a content filter on Debian.
I need to be able to apply different rules to different IP addresses, if
that makes sense.
Eg:  blocking URL sex.com for 1 IP but not the other, etc...
I would like it to be more than just a URL filter though.
Has anyone had much experience with this, could you point me in the
right direction ?
 

I've tried Dansguardian, at least the Debian versions: there is at least 
one newer.

Waste of time unless you're prepared to spend a lot of time maintaining 
it. Gets too many false positives on innocent sites such as 
theregister.co.uk (try the security link). whirlpool.net.au (discussion 
of broadband issues). In a classroom, you'd want your teachers to have 
admin access to whitelist sites.

OTOH finding how to make ricin's a doddle.
I've used Squidguard: it's an URL filter  and does what it does very 
nicely. There hasn't been a new version of the software for years, but 
the associated blacklists are maintained.

Chastity doesn't seem useful, I didn't get past reading the docs. Seemed 
to have lapsed from lack of interest.


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Re: Sid-Mozilla-user-crash - success!

[John Carline]

Ah! strace, what a lovely tool. Thanks Brian.
It turns out that all my /usr/share/fonts/truetype/ms/ fonts were only 
root readable.

Don't ask me how that happened since the same mozilla configuration 
worked until the last sid upgrade, and I haven't changed fonts in 
months.  Oh well! It's working now.

Thanks again to all who helped.
John

Brian Nelson wrote:
John Carline <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
 

Hi all,
Since upgrading my Sid box (i386) last week, Mozilla 1.7 crashes on many
websites and when attempting to open email that calls up data from the
web. The strange part about it is that it only happens to regular users,
it does not crash when running under root.
Permission problem somewhere?
   

Running it through strace should give you an idea if that's true...
 


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ot: WELCOME BACK ALT + TAB

[deb_milist]

Two days ago after apt-updating and upgrading I'd got a pretty
long packages list to be upgrade.
X is included but unfortunetely, my local mirror had not finished on
downloading it yet.
Today, after everything's complete and apt-upgrading and restarting gdm
...TADA  Alt + Tab
works again beautifully.
Many many thanks to developers ( even I still wonder why this take so
long ) but anyway you guys
did it very well ..!!
cheers to all gnome users ! 


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Re: recommendations for a content filter on debian...

[Paul Johnson]

"Ross Tsolakidis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I'm looking to setup a content filter on Debian.
> I need to be able to apply different rules to different IP addresses, if
> that makes sense.
> Eg:  blocking URL sex.com for 1 IP but not the other, etc...
> I would like it to be more than just a URL filter though.
>
> Has anyone had much experience with this, could you point me in the
> right direction ?

You might want to check out squid and squidguard.  You get the advantage
of being able to combine this with adzapper as well for the added fringe
benefit of not having all those obnoxious ads all over websites as well.




BTW, those legal disclaimers on email show a serious lack of clue on the
part of your company, I'd try getting your company to change that before
the people your company does businesses with start laughing at your
lawyers.  :-)


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Re: hp tape drive not recognized

[Marc Wilson]

On Mon, Jul 12, 2004 at 01:48:26PM -0700, Tom Brown wrote:
> dmesg:
> SCSI subsystem driver Revision: 1.00
> kmod: failed to exec /sbin/modprobe -s -k scsi_hostadapter, errno = 2

You've not built support for the adapter into the kernel, you've not
explicitly loaded the module for the adapter at boot via /etc/modules, and
you've not aliased it properly so that the kernel can load it itself when
it wants it.

Pick one.

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dselect alternatives

[Paul Johnson]

Greg Folkert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Mon, 2004-07-12 at 22:35, William F. Dudley Jr. wrote:
>> I was trying to figure out why xsane was dumping core,
>> and fiddling with package selections using dselect,
>> and now dselect wants to uninstall most of the packages:
>
> DO NOT USE dselect!
>
> apt-get update && apt-get -u upgrade (or dist-upgrade)
>
> Then look and see what apt wants to do.

Though if you like the ncurses interface, I strongly recommend aptitude
instead.  That's easily obtained with

# apt-get install aptitude


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recommendations for a content filter on debian...

[Ross Tsolakidis]

Hi all,

I'm looking to setup a content filter on Debian.
I need to be able to apply different rules to different IP addresses, if
that makes sense.
Eg:  blocking URL sex.com for 1 IP but not the other, etc...
I would like it to be more than just a URL filter though.

Has anyone had much experience with this, could you point me in the
right direction ?

Cheers,

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Re: Voyetra Sound Card--lound squeal, hiss

[Kent West]

Gregory Pierce wrote:
I am having a terrible problem getting any sound out of my speakers
other than a very loud squeal when I try to play any music including
streams. The sound card, a Voyetra something or other is recognized
during boot up and I have a volume contral icon which I can adjust but I
have no human sounding output from the speakers (a simplpe two speaker
set) just a very loud squeal!  The same speakers work fine on the a
WinXP box.
 

I'd next try running "lspci" to see what it says about your chipset; 
then maybe run modconf to see if there's a better module match.

You might try upgrading kernels.
I'd shut down X and try playing a tune with with something like "splay", 
to remove any sound daemon / X issues from the mix.

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Re: help! dselect wants to remove everything!

[Greg Folkert]

On Mon, 2004-07-12 at 22:35, William F. Dudley Jr. wrote:
> I was trying to figure out why xsane was dumping core,
> and fiddling with package selections using dselect,
> and now dselect wants to uninstall most of the packages:

DO NOT USE dselect!

apt-get update && apt-get -u upgrade (or dist-upgrade)

Then look and see what apt wants to do.

> 0 upgraded, 11 newly installed, 396 downgraded, 605 to remove and 0 not upgraded
> 
> I'm using "unstable", and mostly, it's been stable.  I run
> about 10 Debian systems.
> 
> 1. How do I restore this to a sane (no pun intended) configuration?
> 
> 2. How the heck does one figure out what dependency causes this insanity?
> 
> 3. Is it possible to have xsane and gimp 2 installed at the same time?

I only use dselect for updates or:

dselect update

Force of habit and to cure that dselect itch... then I use:

apt-get -u updgrade
or
apt-get -u dist-upgrade

Other than refreshing available... dselect is dead for me !!! 
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Re: How Might I Help?

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Greetings,
I have been using Debian with KDE since December and really love it.  I 
haven't found it to be too challenging, and most of my questions and issues 
were easily answered with research into lists like this one and google 
searching.

 

Don't forget Debian feeds off lots of other projects. You mention you 
use KDE, and some of the things you say lack are probably best addressed 
in KDE (or Gnome).


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Re: TMDA considered harmful

[Greg Folkert]

On Mon, 2004-07-12 at 23:17, Paul Johnson wrote:
> Greg Folkert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> >> The only response I send to challenges is a response to postmaster to
> >> stop using TMDA.  I'm wondering if there's any good resources on the web
> >> that summarize the harms of TMDA, and if so, where they are located.
> >
> > Ask Karsten M. Self. I have no idea where his stuff is. He has written
> > or researched on a myriad of things. TMDA included.
> 
> Is Karsten still posting here?

Seen and replied to a post by him, about his CappuccinoPC regard chvt
and keyboard freezing and sometimes the machine freezing.
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sawfish popup-apps-menu problem

[王晓林]

Hi,

I am using Debian sarge, and got a problem with sawfish after a system
upgrading.

I bound the 'popup-apps-menu' function with the 'menu' key.
It worked nicely. The complete apps menu can pops up including the Debian menu in it 
when I pressed the menu key.

But things changed after a system upgrading a few days ago. Now only a
very short apps menu (xterm, Emacs, Netscape, The Gimp, XFIG, GV, xcalc)
can be seen. The Debian menu is gone. 

I want the Debian menu back. Can anyone help? Thanks in advance!

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Re: TMDA considered harmful

[John Summerfield]

Paul Johnson wrote:
Ask Karsten M. Self. I have no idea where his stuff is. He has written
or researched on a myriad of things. TMDA included.
   

Is Karsten still posting here?
 

Here or d-i. Can't spell his name tho:-) He gave a broken link to his 
website in the last day or so.



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Re: TMDA considered harmful

[Paul Johnson]

Greg Folkert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>> The only response I send to challenges is a response to postmaster to
>> stop using TMDA.  I'm wondering if there's any good resources on the web
>> that summarize the harms of TMDA, and if so, where they are located.
>
> Ask Karsten M. Self. I have no idea where his stuff is. He has written
> or researched on a myriad of things. TMDA included.

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help! dselect wants to remove everything!

[William F. Dudley Jr.]

I was trying to figure out why xsane was dumping core,
and fiddling with package selections using dselect,
and now dselect wants to uninstall most of the packages:

0 upgraded, 11 newly installed, 396 downgraded, 605 to remove and 0 not upgraded

I'm using "unstable", and mostly, it's been stable.  I run
about 10 Debian systems.

1. How do I restore this to a sane (no pun intended) configuration?

2. How the heck does one figure out what dependency causes this insanity?

3. Is it possible to have xsane and gimp 2 installed at the same time?

Thanks,
Bill Dudley


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hp tape drive not recognized

[Tom Brown]

Hi,

I am migrating our company servers from RH to Debian and one of the last 
hurdles is the tape drive. We have an HP SureStore Dat40x6 tape drive that is 
not being recognized under Debian. We are running Debian 3.0r2 and kernel 
2.4.26. I have compiled in scsi support and scsi tape support.

cat /proc/scsi/scsi:
Attached devices: none

dmesg:
SCSI subsystem driver Revision: 1.00
kmod: failed to exec /sbin/modprobe -s -k scsi_hostadapter, errno = 2
kmod: failed to exec /sbin/modprobe -s -k scsi_hostadapter, errno = 2
kmod: failed to exec /sbin/modprobe -s -k scsi_hostadapter, errno = 2
kmod: failed to exec /sbin/modprobe -s -k scsi_hostadapter, errno = 2

/var/log/messages:
Jul 12 12:50:22 zan kernel: SCSI subsystem driver Revision: 1.00


The tape drive worked without a problem under RH 8.0. What is the problem 
under Debian?

Thanks,
Tom


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Re: TMDA considered harmful

[Greg Folkert]

On Mon, 2004-07-12 at 22:35, Paul Johnson wrote:
> Brian Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > David Fokkema <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> >>>   - The premise that responses to challenges can be reliably predicted
> >>> is false.  Legitimate senders will refuse to answer challenges.
> >>> Spammers can and do respond to challenges.
> >>
> >> not enough data available.
> >
> > It doesn't need to be available.  If C-R gains enough popularity, of
> > course spammers will figure out how to auto-respond to challenges.  It's
> > completely trivial to them, and it's well known that spammers will be to
> > great lengths to ensure they reach the greatest number of people.  If
> > they don't do it now, it's only because so few people use C-R that it's
> > not worth their bother.
> 
> So, in essence, TMDA's unfortunate creep in popularity is extremely
> harmful because it threatens to very quickly double or triple the damage
> spam causes.
> 
> > Plenty of people on these lists have admitted to, and in fact encourage,
> > ignoring challenges.  I know I've intentionally discarded them before,
> > and I try to seed my Bayesian filter to recognize them as the spam they
> > are.
> 
> The only response I send to challenges is a response to postmaster to
> stop using TMDA.  I'm wondering if there's any good resources on the web
> that summarize the harms of TMDA, and if so, where they are located.

Ask Karsten M. Self. I have no idea where his stuff is. He has written
or researched on a myriad of things. TMDA included.
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Re: Voyetra Sound Card--lound squeal, hiss

[Gregory Pierce]

On Mon, 2004-07-12 at 22:34, Kent West wrote:
> Gregory Pierce wrote:
> 
> >Hello,
> >
> >I am having a terrible problem getting any sound out of my speakers
> >other than a very loud squeal when I try to play any music including
> >streams. The sound card, a Voyetra something or other is recognized
> >during boot up and I have a volume contral icon which I can adjust but I
> >have no human sounding output from the speakers (a simplpe two speaker
> >set) just a very loud squeal!  The same speakers work fine on the a
> >WinXP box.
> >
> >Any help would be appreciated.
> >
> >Greg
> >
> >
> >  
> >
> Just a guess, but if you have a mic input, mute the mic. It sounds like 
> you might be getting feedback. (This is particularly likely on a laptop.)
> 
> -- 
> Kent
> 

Just tried muting the mic...seemed like a reasonably good idea, but
still the same shrill high pitch sound.  I am quite confused.

Greg


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TMDA considered harmful

[Paul Johnson]

Brian Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> David Fokkema <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>>>   - The premise that responses to challenges can be reliably predicted
>>> is false.  Legitimate senders will refuse to answer challenges.
>>> Spammers can and do respond to challenges.
>>
>> not enough data available.
>
> It doesn't need to be available.  If C-R gains enough popularity, of
> course spammers will figure out how to auto-respond to challenges.  It's
> completely trivial to them, and it's well known that spammers will be to
> great lengths to ensure they reach the greatest number of people.  If
> they don't do it now, it's only because so few people use C-R that it's
> not worth their bother.

So, in essence, TMDA's unfortunate creep in popularity is extremely
harmful because it threatens to very quickly double or triple the damage
spam causes.

> Plenty of people on these lists have admitted to, and in fact encourage,
> ignoring challenges.  I know I've intentionally discarded them before,
> and I try to seed my Bayesian filter to recognize them as the spam they
> are.

The only response I send to challenges is a response to postmaster to
stop using TMDA.  I'm wondering if there's any good resources on the web
that summarize the harms of TMDA, and if so, where they are located.


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Re: Voyetra Sound Card--lound squeal, hiss

[Kent West]

Gregory Pierce wrote:
Hello,
I am having a terrible problem getting any sound out of my speakers
other than a very loud squeal when I try to play any music including
streams. The sound card, a Voyetra something or other is recognized
during boot up and I have a volume contral icon which I can adjust but I
have no human sounding output from the speakers (a simplpe two speaker
set) just a very loud squeal!  The same speakers work fine on the a
WinXP box.
Any help would be appreciated.
Greg
 

Just a guess, but if you have a mic input, mute the mic. It sounds like 
you might be getting feedback. (This is particularly likely on a laptop.)

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Re: How Might I Help?

[Kevin Mark]

On Mon, Jul 12, 2004 at 11:53:52AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Greetings,
> 
> I have been using Debian with KDE since December and really love it.  I 
> haven't found it to be too challenging, and most of my questions and issues 
> were easily answered with research into lists like this one and google 
> searching.
> 
> My question for you all is this, how might I help?  I want to give back to 
> this extraordinary community.  I don't have the inclination to write code, 
> I'm not a programmer so can't really help in that way.  I can edit and 
> proof-read copy for user manuals etc, and I also have extensive experience 
> with graphics and layout programs from years of being a professional graphic 
> designer.  How can I contribute?
> 
> I am willing to troubleshoot graphic and layout programs, edit copy for user 
> manuals, and/or contribute graphics as much as my schedule permits (paying 
> jobs before gratis).
> 
> I am particularly keen to assist in areas where I still need MS Windows (color 
> management, pre-press, professional quality graphics and layout programs), my 
> motive is to help where I can to bring Linux into the same usability as 
> Windows and Mac in these arenas so that I can free myself from dependence on 
> MS or Apple completely.
> 
> Peace,
> Gail
Hi Gail,
welcome to the community. Free and open source software is, as some have
observed, a community. If you want to see who 'we' are, check out the
web page at http://planet.debian.net  it shows the depth and breath of
some of the folks who contribute and their everyday lives. The need to 
' help others on lists' is a great thing. We all learn a
particular set of software (that we use on debian) and can help others
use those tools or introduce other to those tools we use if it is unknow to
them. One other thing is documentation. You can write, proofread,
translate (if you know any of the multitudes of languages other then
british/us english). I, myself, used to use pagemaker and quark many
years ago and have tried to find a libre software replacement. Have you
used 'scribus'? if so, you can contribute by giving feedback on that! I
think of it as a pagemaker wana-be. Linux has started to get color
management but only in a tiny way (see: gimp and scribus as the two big
pacakges with it).  These are only a few ways! One other way is to get
libre software in the hands of others! I try to carry a knoppix disk
where ever I go to hand out. 
Any way, best of luck, and have fun!
-Kev

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[Caveman]

Hi all,

I am using the apache2 package in sid. I am trying to turn ServerSignature off 
by adding ServerSignature Off to my /etc/apache2/httpd.conf. I also tried 
my /etc/apache2/apache2.conf but it does not work.
I still get the serversignature for dir listings etc. 
I did find that the ServerTokens options all work etc.
I tried this on a source install of apache and I did not have the trouble
any ideas why its not turning off ?

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Voyetra Sound Card--lound squeal, hiss

[Gregory Pierce]

Hello,

I am having a terrible problem getting any sound out of my speakers
other than a very loud squeal when I try to play any music including
streams. The sound card, a Voyetra something or other is recognized
during boot up and I have a volume contral icon which I can adjust but I
have no human sounding output from the speakers (a simplpe two speaker
set) just a very loud squeal!  The same speakers work fine on the a
WinXP box.

Any help would be appreciated.

Greg


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Re: Sid-Mozilla-user-crash

[Brian Nelson]

John Carline <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hi all,
>
> Since upgrading my Sid box (i386) last week, Mozilla 1.7 crashes on many
> websites and when attempting to open email that calls up data from the
> web. The strange part about it is that it only happens to regular users,
> it does not crash when running under root.
>
> Permission problem somewhere?

Running it through strace should give you an idea if that's true...

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Re: Sid-Mozilla-user-crash

[Brad Sawatzky]

Hi John,

On Mon, 12 Jul 2004, John Carline wrote:

> Brad Sawatzky wrote:
> 
> >On Mon, 12 Jul 2004, John Carline wrote:
> >>Since upgrading my Sid box (i386) last week, Mozilla 1.7 crashes on many 
> >>websites and when attempting to open email that calls up data from the 
> >>web. The strange part about it is that it only happens to regular users, 
> >>it does not crash when running under root.

> >Wild guesses might include:
> > - problem with java, shockwave, or other plugin/extension that is
> >   'auto-loaded' for all profiles
> > - corrupt mime.types or mailcap files
> 
> I'll take all the wild guesses I can get. Thanks Brad.
> 
> I've tried  turning off java, and the only plugin remaining is the 
> default libnullplugin.co. Basically the user setup is identical to the 
> root setup.
> 
> H... corrupt mime.types or mailcap files?
> 
> I'm not really sure what I'm doing here, but I've deleted old ~.mailcap 
> and ~/mime.types; and then ran update-mime and run-mailcap with no 
> change. Is there anything else I can do here?

No, I don't think so.  That was really a long shot anyway -- I was just
trying to think of 'global' stuff that mozilla might be choking on...

> Installed 1.6-7
> mozilla-browser
> mozilla-mailnews
> mozilla-psm
> libnss3
> libnspr4
> 
> Hm... It's still the same.
> 
> works fine on Debian and Slashdot and crashes on Freshmeat.

Does the order in which you visit the sites matter, or does Freshmeat
explode even if you visit it first?

Well, my last wild guess would involve a potential conflict between mozilla
and the new gdk/gnome libs that have been rolled into sid recently.  I'm
not sure what Freshmeat would be doing that Slashdot isn't though...
(loading a 'bad' advert maybe?)  And, like you say, any systematic bug
should really be hitting more users...

Quite a puzzle.

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Re: Changing hostname

[Micha Feigin]

On Mon, Jul 12, 2004 at 05:57:16PM -0400, * Tong* wrote:
> Hi, 
> 
> Quick question how to change hostname under debian? 
> 
> I changed my /etc/hosts 
> from 
> 127.0.0.1   cxmr  localhost
> to
> 127.0.0.1   cxmr.dyndns.org localhost
> 
> but why my hostname is still reporting merely 'cxmr'?
> How to fix it? (Surely I've rebooted).
> 

first thing, you host name is merely cxmr.
dyndns.org is your domain name, not part of your hostname. That should
appear in the domain directive in your /etc/resolv.conf if you want.

To change your hostname you can edit /etc/hostname or run 
hostname 

> Thanks
> 
> PS. is it the reason that I can't start squid?:
> 
> # /etc/init.d/squid start
> Starting proxy server: FATAL: Could not determine fully qualified hostname.  Please 
> set 'visible_hostname'
> 
> 
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Re: Configuring X-Windows in Woody (Novice help)

[Micha Feigin]

On Tue, Jul 13, 2004 at 12:18:35AM +0300, Janjs Jangori wrote:
> 
> 
> Confession: Am a complete novice and just had my first Linux installed by 
> following the
> 'Installing Debian Linux 3.0(Woody)'.

I would go with the new beta installer and install either testing (the
default with the regular setup) or unstable (with the expert setup or
upgrade later). X is _much_ easier to setup and its much newer. Woody
is more for the server world and kind of difficult for new users (its
installation and hardware discovery is much less friendly), also X is
really old, although I did see that it 4.1 which is better the 3.3 (or
whatever version the original woody had IIRC)

> However, when I login as root and type startx to get my GUI running I
> get 

You should login as a regular user not as root.

> the err message
> 
> x connection to :0.0 broken (Explicit kill or Server Shutdown)
> 

This means it stopped due to an error but doesn't give the error. Send
the file /var/log/XFree86.0.log, it should contain the error.

> I did realise that am not the first to encounter this error. I tried all 
> the suggestions
> given in the respective forums without success.
> 
> Part of my lspci output is:
> 01:0.0 VGA Compatable Controller: S3 Inc.: Unknown device 8d04.
> When I ran
> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86
> I was asked, among other things, to supply BUSID of the format
> PCI:nn:nn:nn

Leave it blank, if you read the full text it well tell you that apart
from circumstances you are probably not facing you don't have to enter
it.

> But I couldnt get this format from my lspci output(which I guess is 8d04)
> I also ran dselect to select,install and configure 'xserver-svga'
> On typing startx, I got the following error msgs
> SVGA PCI: S3 unknown chipset(0x8d04) rev 0, memory @ 0xdfe8000
> Looking at my monitor it is
> Philips 105MB, 15"
> However my XP display configuration is showing the following default 
> settings:
> Chip Type:S3 ProSavage DDR, Resloution 800x600, color 32bit, Memory 
> 32MB,and Refresh 60HZ
> 

Looks like X is too old and isn't recognizing your card. Upgrade to
testing/unstable for X 4.3 or use backports.org.

> I really have no idea what's going on. I have reinstalled woody over 
> 15times in each case
> recorded my steps but the error still persists. I'll not give up because 
> Debian GNU/Linux
> is the direction I want to take.
> I sincerely appreciate help to get my GUI working.
> 
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Re: Any way to search executable name?

[Robert William Hutton]

* Tong* wrote:
Is there any way to search executable name for it package? 

For example, from efax.rc I know that it uses "paperconf" to determine
paper size. but apt-cache search can't find its package name...
esgaroth:~# apt-get install apt-file
esgaroth:~# apt-file update
[output omitted]
esgaroth:~# apt-file search paperconf
libpaper-utils: usr/bin/paperconf
libpaper-utils: usr/sbin/paperconfig
libpaper-utils: usr/share/man/man1/paperconf.1.gz
libpaper-utils: usr/share/man/man8/paperconfig.8.gz
Cheers,
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Re: starting X hangs on network timeout (hosts file ignored)

[Steven Satelle]

On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 17:58:40 +0300, Micha Feigin wrote:

> 
> BTW I got the following reply after I tried reporting a bug on netbase
> on this:
> 
> [...] this is how it's supposed to work. host(1) is an
> interface to the resolver library, which does not use /etc/hosts by design.
> 
> The problem is that it seems that a few other things seem to be
> ignoring the /etc/hosts file also.
> 

what package are you getting host from, I dont have it on my system. whats
in your /etc/resolv.conf, mine has
search personal.ie
nameserver 192.168.1.1

I think you should have nameserver 127.0.0.1 in there before any remote
binds, I dont, but then, I dont have a problem ;-) I think If you have
127.0.0.1 in there as the first nameserver it will check the local one
first (/etc/hosts) 
apart from that what happens if you run startx without gdm running?


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Re: Sid-Mozilla-user-crash

[Paul Stolp]

* John Carline <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-07-12 18:34]:
> 
> 
> Brad Sawatzky wrote:
> 
> >On Mon, 12 Jul 2004, John Carline wrote:
> >
> > 
> >
> >>Since upgrading my Sid box (i386) last week, Mozilla 1.7 crashes on many 
> >>websites and when attempting to open email that calls up data from the 
> >>web. The strange part about it is that it only happens to regular users, 
> >>it does not crash when running under root.
> >>   
> >>

John,
I had what may have been the same issue. Mozilla crashed like crazy for
a new user, but was just fine for established users. What is really
strange is that it "slowly" stabilized for the new user.

What I did was:

Remove the .mozilla directory for the new user to start fresh.
Log into an established user account, startx, start mozilla.
Open a terminal, sux - to new user (if you don't have sux installed,
"xhost +" first, but do yourself a favor and install sux) type mozilla
as new user.

It worked!

After this it worked a little better direct from the new user account,
but still crashed. I repeated the above, except removing the .mozilla
directory. After this it worked pretty much stable, (not sure, I may
have gone through the above steps once more, again except for removing
the .mozilla directory.)

I'd love to file a bug report on this, but I have no idea where the
problem is.

I hope this works alright for you.

Paul


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Re: tmda (was Re: Attach filter)

[Brian Nelson]

David Fokkema <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>>   - The premise that responses to challenges can be reliably predicted
>> is false.  Legitimate senders will refuse to answer challenges.
>> Spammers can and do respond to challenges.
>
> not enough data available.

It doesn't need to be available.  If C-R gains enough popularity, of
course spammers will figure out how to auto-respond to challenges.  It's
completely trivial to them, and it's well known that spammers will be to
great lengths to ensure they reach the greatest number of people.  If
they don't do it now, it's only because so few people use C-R that it's
not worth their bother.

Plenty of people on these lists have admitted to, and in fact encourage,
ignoring challenges.  I know I've intentionally discarded them before,
and I try to seed my Bayesian filter to recognize them as the spam they
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Re: Keeping a customized file from being updated during package upgrade

[Reid Priedhorsky]

On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 01:10:06 +0200, Monique Y. Mudama wrote:
>
> > Wow, how could you do that? Can you share your code with us?  I use
> > colored xterms to distinguish those -- easier to do. :-)
> 
> In my root .bashrc I have this:
> 
> export PS1='\e[31;1m\h:\w\$\e[0m '

Also look into the tput program. You tell it what you want (bold, green,
etc.) and it outputs appropriate magic for your current terminal.

HTH

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Re: Changing hostname

[Steven Satelle]

On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 17:57:16 -0400, * Tong* wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Quick question how to change hostname under debian?
> 
> I changed my /etc/hosts
> from
> 127.0.0.1   cxmr  localhost to
> 127.0.0.1   cxmr.dyndns.org localhost
> 
> but why my hostname is still reporting merely 'cxmr'? How to fix it?
> (Surely I've rebooted).
> 
> Thanks
> 
> PS. is it the reason that I can't start squid?:
> 
> # /etc/init.d/squid start
> Starting proxy server: FATAL: Could not determine fully qualified
> hostname.  Please set 'visible_hostname'

man hostname
I think thats what u need :-)



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Re: help

[John Summerfield]

Darlene Hunsinger wrote:
I, of course, am a newbie. I can't get my printer or my digital camera 
installed. My nephew installed debian then went to boot camp for 15 weeks. I 
have a root password, but I'm not sure what to do with it. My daughter just 
started college and I really need the printer. I just got the camera and I'd 
really like to download my pics and print some out if the printer worked. I 
have a HP PSC 2110 printer and a Canon PowerShot S410 Elph camera. Please 
tell a computer lingo illiterate how to install the proper linux drivers for 
these two pieces of hardware.
 

Oh well, I'd back your daughter against you, but then I'm not sure what 
"college" means in your area: here it would suggest your daughter is in 
her late teens.

The  good news is both should actually work.  I recently got email from 
a bloke at HP who should actually know saying all current and 
near-future HP PSC-type products are supported by the current HP 
Officejet software.

You didn't say which debian: I assume you're running Sarge and that is 
good news.

Plug in and turn on the camera and the printer.
As root, run this command:
apt-get  -u install hpoj hpoj-xojpanel hptalx hpijs hotplug gphoto2 digikam
It may offer to install more software, that's probably a good idea.
The hotplug packages deals with setting up USB devices you plug in and 
remove while the system's powered up. For you, that's your camera and 
printer.

I think after this your printer will be pretty-much configured, _but_ 
you can't print yet.

gphoto2 provides the drivers for your camera (we hope!), and digikam is 
one of several photo-handling programs. I think digikam (and other like 
programs) ask you a few questions first time you start them, and provide 
means to change their settings later.

You might also want to do this:
apt-get -u install cupsys cupsys-client cupsys-driver-gimpprint 
cupsys-driver-gimpprint-data

Again, if apt-get wants to install more, that's a good idea. These 
packages combine to give you enterprise-class printing support. It works 
well with KDE.

Once that's done, point Konqueror (or other web browser) at 
http://127.0.0.1:631/

Click "manage printers," "add printer" login as root and do what seams best.
When you get to choose the device, your printer should appear as one of 
the USB printers.

At least, my HP 3550 did yesterday:-)
If this is all too much for you
Tell us what town/city/country you live in. Likely someone lives nearby 
and can drop in and help you out, or point you at your local Linux Users 
Group  where someone will be sure to help.

Also, your absent nevvie may be able to help out across the Internet.
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Re: Changing hostname

[Paul Johnson]

* Tong* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hi, 
>
> Quick question how to change hostname under debian? 
>
> I changed my /etc/hosts 
> from 
> 127.0.0.1   cxmr  localhost
> to
> 127.0.0.1   cxmr.dyndns.org localhost
>
> but why my hostname is still reporting merely 'cxmr'?
> How to fix it? (Surely I've rebooted).

127.0.0.1localhost
cxmr.dyndns.orgcxmr


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Re: fullscreen movie playback blurry: nvidia or TFT?

[AirrezzZ]

found an other solution:
 
turn off hardware acceleration in het propeties 
window of your vga card (tab called something like "problem 
solving")
 
video playback is fine after that.

Re: fullscreen movie playback blurry: nvidia or TFT?

[RezzZ]

found a other solution:
 
turn off hardware acceleration in het propeties 
window of your vga card (tab called something like "problem 
solving")

Re: Any way to search executable name?

[Mikael Magnusson]

On Mon, Jul 12, 2004 at 10:08:02PM +0200, Andreas Janssen wrote:
> Hello
> 
> * Tong* (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:
> 
> > Is there any way to search executable name for it package?
> > 
> > For example, from efax.rc I know that it uses "paperconf" to determine
> > paper size. but apt-cache search can't find its package name...
> 
> You can use dpkg -L to list the contents of an installed package. Maybe
> you want to do something like
> 
> dpkg -L package | grep bin
> 
> This should list at least all files that are stored in /bin, /sbin, 
> usr/bin and /usr/sbin.
> 

Hi,

you can search for a file name from installed packages
with "dpkg -S".

For example:

# dpkg -S paperconf
libpaperg: /usr/share/man/man8/paperconfig.8.gz
libpaperg: /usr/bin/paperconf
libpaperg: /usr/sbin/paperconfig
libpaperg: /usr/share/man/man1/paperconf.1.gz

Regards,
Mikael Magnusson


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Re: Sid-Mozilla-user-crash

[John Carline]

Brad Sawatzky wrote:
On Mon, 12 Jul 2004, John Carline wrote:
 

Since upgrading my Sid box (i386) last week, Mozilla 1.7 crashes on many 
websites and when attempting to open email that calls up data from the 
web. The strange part about it is that it only happens to regular users, 
it does not crash when running under root.
   

[ . . . ]
 

So far I've:
Waited patiently for Sid to quit breaking my toys - upgrading daily - no 
luck
   

Well sid == "unstable", but I sympathize.
 

Actually sid has been surprisingly stable, most problems disappear the 
next time I upgrade. :)

[ . . . ]
 

Since I haven't seen a hue and cry on the list, it must only be me 
Anyone know what simple thing I'm missing?
   

Wild guesses might include:
 - problem with java, shockwave, or other plugin/extension that is
   'auto-loaded' for all profiles
 - corrupt mime.types or mailcap files
 

I'll take all the wild guesses I can get. Thanks Brad.
I've tried  turning off java, and the only plugin remaining is the 
default libnullplugin.co. Basically the user setup is identical to the 
root setup.

H... corrupt mime.types or mailcap files?
I'm not really sure what I'm doing here, but I've deleted old ~.mailcap 
and ~/mime.types; and then ran update-mime and run-mailcap with no 
change. Is there anything else I can do here?

The fact that things work as root is interesting (assuming it's not a red
herring).  Does anyone know if mozilla goes into a 'safe' mode when run as
root (eg. with respect to loading/handling plugins)?
If none of this solves the problem, then you might want to downgrade to a
previous version and pin the package in apt.  If you're lucky there will be
an old version or two in /var/cache/apt/archives/ that you can use.  (Copy
the .deb somewhere so it don't get purged before you need it again.)
 

Installed 1.6-7
mozilla-browser
mozilla-mailnews
mozilla-psm
libnss3
libnspr4
Hm... It's still the same.
works fine on Debian and Slashdot and crashes on Freshmeat.
This may be more my fault than sid's, but I wont know until I solve it.
-- Brad
 

Any other ideas anyone?
Thanks
John
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Re: Changing hostname

[Paul E Condon]

On Mon, Jul 12, 2004 at 05:57:16PM -0400, * Tong* wrote:
> Hi, 
> 
> Quick question how to change hostname under debian? 
> 
> I changed my /etc/hosts 
> from 
> 127.0.0.1   cxmr  localhost
> to
> 127.0.0.1   cxmr.dyndns.org localhost
> 

I think you should not want to do this. The FQDN part is
stored somewhere else and is concatenated with the bare
hostname where it is needed. Check up on this. I'm not 
sure. But if I am, you will be fighting the system.
You are smarter, but the software is infinitely more patient.




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help

[Darlene Hunsinger]

I, of course, am a newbie. I can't get my printer or my digital camera 
installed. My nephew installed debian then went to boot camp for 15 weeks. I 
have a root password, but I'm not sure what to do with it. My daughter just 
started college and I really need the printer. I just got the camera and I'd 
really like to download my pics and print some out if the printer worked. I 
have a HP PSC 2110 printer and a Canon PowerShot S410 Elph camera. Please 
tell a computer lingo illiterate how to install the proper linux drivers for 
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Re: Any way to search executable name?

[Paul E Condon]

On Mon, Jul 12, 2004 at 11:30:39PM +0100, Thomas Adam wrote:
> --- * Tong* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> 
> > I think Oliver's answer might be the only answer.
> 

You can search for a file name and find the package that contains
it on the debian web site.


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Re: tmda (was Re: Attach filter)

[Monique Y. Mudama]

On 2004-07-12, Steve Lamb penned:
>
>> As they're you're client, I hope you're making some effort to educate
>> them and/or provide them with that option.
>
> We are, yes.  Trust me, it is something that I remind my bosses of
> on a weekly basis.

It's really frustrating when you know something's screwed up and you
can't get the authority/permission to fix it.

>> TMDA also implements nifty things like dated and keyword addresses,
>> btw.  I honestly don't know if these are available through other
>> sources.
>
> This would require both incoming and outgoing filtering, would it
> not?  I mean how would I, for example, take advantage of this via
> Thunderbird on my (counts...) 3 boxes that I read mail from
> through IMAP while filtering is done independantly on a 4th
> machine a continent away?  :)

Yeah, you have to use tmda-sendmail, which iirc is a wrapper to your
normal sendmail.  There's something called tmda-ofmipd for
non-server-located clients:

http://www.tmda.net/tmda-ofmipd.html

"tmda-ofmipd is an async I/O based authenticated ofmip proxy for TMDA.
This allows users of any mail client capable of SMTP Authentication
(e.g, Outlook, Eudora, Mozilla) to "tag" their outgoing mail as
described in the Client Configuration section."

Don't ask me how it all works, or even *if* it works with your
configuration; I haven't used it.

Actually, now that I think about it, you wouldn't *have* to use
tmda-sendmail for keyed addresses; I believe you can use tmda-keygen by
hand and just paste in the address.  It's been a while since I've played
with any of these features, so please take my explanations with a large
grain of salt.

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Re: Disk tools in debian

[Paul E Condon]

On Mon, Jul 12, 2004 at 06:15:17PM -0400, * Tong* wrote:
> On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 20:58:47 +0100, Oliver Elphick wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, 2004-07-12 at 19:52, David Fokkema wrote:
> >> On Sun, Jul 11, 2004 at 03:49:35PM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote:
> >> > I'm puzzled. I thought I might learn something by checking on this
> >> > fix to Tong's problem, but running as root on a Sarge system, I get
> >> > results just like Tong, and not like you, Oliver. I fail to see what
> >> > I could be doing wrong. Maybe there is a problem here.
> >> 
> >> Same here. Nothing. I am running Sid.
> > 
> > I guess someone who is seeing this problem should file a bug afainst
> > util-linux.
> 
> I AM running it as root. I'm using Sarge, and the fdisk/sfdisk do come
> from util-linux. 
> 
> Paul and David? Have you find the problem? Could you file the bug report?
> I'm too new to Debian to file it. 
> 

I volunteer. But won't be filed until tomorrow. I go see Fahrenheit 911
this evening.


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Re: modprobe.conf missing

[Yohann Desquerre]

Matthijs wrote:
Hello,
Last morning, I accidently deleted /etc/rc* (great, find-command
combined with rm -f... ) and decided to start a new installation. I do
have all the directories /etc, /usr, /var copied to a safe place but
they don't help me now.
Setup: Debian unstable, kernel 2.6.7, on a Via EPIA M1 board.
The biggest problem I'm having:
modconf wasn't installed by default, had to apt-get it myself. Now it
only complains that modprobe.conf is missing.
 

you should have the last modules-init-tools package installed...
and the see /usr/share/application/module-init-tools/examples
there is a script which generate the modprobe.conf (you have to gunzip 
him and give the x right !!!)

thanks to Jean-luc coulon which gave me this tips this week in the 
french list !!


If I do a touch /etc/modprobe.conf, it doesn't complain anymore but
when I remove some audio modules with modconf, they're automagically
back after a reboot. I think this may be one of the reasons ALSA won't
work.
Resources on the internet suggest this 'touch /etc/modprobe.conf' but
that isn't the solution for me. I also read that modern installations
don't need it. I also read about using generate-modprobe.conf script,
but can't find it.
Also, a minor problem: during boot it complains about a missing
usb_uhci module. I know that this is a leftover from the 2.4 kernel,
but I can't get rid of it.
Any help, please?
 


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Tasksel won't recognise second CD

[Rich]

Hi,

If the following is familiar to you, I apologise for boring you but I'm
reposting in plain text- thanks, Petter.

I'm trying to install Sarge on an i-x86 box and everything is fine until I'm
asked for the second CD.
The CD isn't recognised, and the prompt to insert second disk simply
reappears.
The CD was Jigdo-d and burned on my Windoes box as a bootable image and
appears to be OK and indeed disk one worked just fine.
The disk is mountable and readable (I can see all the files on it) and the
base install worked fine, but interestingly none of the MD-5 sums seem to
check out as good.

Is there a config file somewhere that apt-get (or is it tasksel) looks at to
find the cd? Maybe it's looking in the wrong place?
I realise maybe my disks aren't burned quite right, but I'd have thought
that tasksel wouldn't have been quite so put off by that, or at least would
have thrown up an informative error. Or maybe it has, but it's logged in a
file I don't know about yet.
I've RTFM but being a newbie, maybe I RT wrong FM, who knows.

Any ideas gratefully received.

Rich.

P.S. my primary aim here as a would-like-to-be-ex-Windoes user is to get a
GUI such as KDE up and running. It's been about 15 years since I worked from
the command line and I feel a bit like a fish out of water.



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Re: Keeping a customized file from being updated during package upgrade

[Monique Y. Mudama]

On 2004-07-10, * Tong* penned:
> On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 00:55:08 -0400, Silvan wrote:
>
>> anyway.  One thing I've done to help me keep track of where I am is
>> to use colorized prompts.  Red is root, cyan is local user, purple is
>> local user with developer environment variables, green is remote,
>> etc.  It helps when you have as many different terminal sessions open
>> at one time as I do.
>
> Wow, how could you do that? Can you share your code with us?  I use
> colored xterms to distinguish those -- easier to do. :-)

In my root .bashrc I have this:

export PS1='\e[31;1m\h:\w\$\e[0m '

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How to configure Gnome app color

[* Tong*]

A silly question, How to configure the bg/fg color for Gnome/gtk
applications? I think I could previously, but I can't find where to do
it now. 

Please help. Thanks



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Re: Keeping a customized file from being updated during package upgrade

[Monique Y. Mudama]

On 2004-07-10, Silvan penned:
>
> One thing I've done to help me keep track of where
> I am is to use colorized prompts.  Red is root, cyan is local user,
> purple is local user with developer environment variables, green is
> remote, etc.  It helps when you have as many different terminal
> sessions open at one time as I do.

Great minds must think alike ... root is red for me, too =)

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Re: Mozilla/Firefox "PostScript/default" security problems

[Brad Sims]

On Monday 12 July 2004 2:33 am, Magnus Therning wrote:
> Will you put those packages somewhere where others can reach them as
> well?

Hrm, I need more webspace, my ISP only gives me about 10M

If you roll your own, read the new developer how-to to learn
how to make the debs version -99 that way apt won't try to
replace them .

BTW is there a painless way to set up a apt repository?
IE turn it loose on a directory of debs and it does the rest?
Also online manuals would be nice...

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Re: DHCP Server choices

[Daniel L. Miller]

Not really.. But ISC does evreythng you could possibly want. Why do you want
an alternative?
 

Because I don't care for ISC.
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Tasksel won't recognise second CD

[Rich]

Hi,

If the following is familiar to you, I apologise for boring you but I'm
reposting in plain text- thanks, Petter.

I'm trying to install Sarge on an i-x86 box and everything is fine until I'm
asked for the second CD.
The CD isn't recognised, and the prompt to insert second disk simply
reappears.
The CD was Jigdo-d and burned on my Windoes box as a bootable image and
appears to be OK and indeed disk one worked just fine.
The disk is mountable and readable (I can see all the files on it) and the
base install worked fine, but interestingly none of the MD-5 sums seem to
check out as good.

Is there a config file somewhere that apt-get (or is it tasksel) looks at to
find the cd? Maybe it's looking in the wrong place?
I realise maybe my disks aren't burned quite right, but I'd have thought
that tasksel wouldn't have been quite so put off by that, or at least would
have thrown up an informative error. Or maybe it has, but it's logged in a
file I don't know about yet.
I've RTFM but being a newbie, maybe I RT wrong FM, who knows.

Any ideas gratefully received.

Rich.

P.S. my primary aim here as a would-like-to-be-ex-Windoes user is to get a
GUI such as KDE up and running. It's been about 15 years since I worked from
the command line and I feel a bit like a fish out of water.



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Re: tmda (was Re: Attach filter)

[Steve Lamb]

Monique Y. Mudama wrote:
> Implementing a C/R system without first running the mail through some
> spam detection system is horribly irresponsible.  

Tell that to some of the C/R zealots running around.  I'm the one who does
filtering.  :)

> As they're you're client, I hope you're making some effort to educate them
> and/or provide them with that option.

We are, yes.  Trust me, it is something that I remind my bosses of on a
weekly basis.

> TMDA also implements nifty things like dated and keyword addresses, btw.
> I honestly don't know if these are available through other sources.

This would require both incoming and outgoing filtering, would it not?  I
mean how would I, for example, take advantage of this via Thunderbird on my
(counts...) 3 boxes that I read mail from through IMAP while filtering is done
independantly on a 4th machine a continent away?  :)

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Re: Changing hostname

[Nicos Gollan]

On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 17:57:16 -0400
* Tong* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Quick question how to change hostname under debian? 

Quick answer: edit /etc/hostname. No reboot necessary (but go to init
level 1 and back again to make sure stuff like Apache doesn't get an
identity crisis).

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Re: Disk tools in debian

[* Tong*]

On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 20:58:47 +0100, Oliver Elphick wrote:

> On Mon, 2004-07-12 at 19:52, David Fokkema wrote:
>> On Sun, Jul 11, 2004 at 03:49:35PM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote:
>> > I'm puzzled. I thought I might learn something by checking on this
>> > fix to Tong's problem, but running as root on a Sarge system, I get
>> > results just like Tong, and not like you, Oliver. I fail to see what
>> > I could be doing wrong. Maybe there is a problem here.
>> 
>> Same here. Nothing. I am running Sid.
> 
> I guess someone who is seeing this problem should file a bug afainst
> util-linux.

I AM running it as root. I'm using Sarge, and the fdisk/sfdisk do come
from util-linux. 

Paul and David? Have you find the problem? Could you file the bug report?
I'm too new to Debian to file it. 

Thanks




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Re: Changing hostname

[Kent West]

* Tong* wrote:
Hi, 

Quick question how to change hostname under debian? 

I changed my /etc/hosts 
from 
127.0.0.1   cxmr		localhost
to
127.0.0.1   cxmr.dyndns.org localhost

but why my hostname is still reporting merely 'cxmr'?
How to fix it? (Surely I've rebooted).
Thanks
PS. is it the reason that I can't start squid?:
# /etc/init.d/squid start
Starting proxy server: FATAL: Could not determine fully qualified hostname.  Please set 'visible_hostname'
 

The hostname for your system is defined in /etc/hostname, not in 
/etc/hosts. However, there may be several places in the /etc directory 
where it is specified in various config files, such as /etc/hosts. There 
may be a squid config file that needs changing also. You might want to 
run something like "grep -r -n cxmr /etc" to find all the locations 
where the filename is used.

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Re: Any way to search executable name?

[Thomas Adam]

--- * Tong* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

> I think Oliver's answer might be the only answer.

Nope:

# apt-get install apt-file && apt-file update
$ apt-file search 

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Re: Configuring X-Windows in Woody (Novice help)

[Kent West]

Janjs Jangori wrote:

Confession: Am a complete novice and just had my first Linux installed 
by following the
'Installing Debian Linux 3.0(Woody)'.
However, when I login as root and type startx to get my GUI running I 
get the err message

x connection to :0.0 broken (Explicit kill or Server Shutdown)
This particular error means nothing. Look further up the screen 
(Shift-PgUp) or at the log file (/var/log/XFree86.0.log).

Part of my lspci output is:
01:0.0 VGA Compatable Controller: S3 Inc.: Unknown device 8d04.
If it were me, I'd update my kernel, and update to sid, in order to get 
newer software that's more likely to recognize your video chipset. 
Others may have different recommendations.

When I ran
dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86
I was asked, among other things, to supply BUSID of the format 
PCI:nn:nn:nn
But I couldnt get this format from my lspci output(which I guess is 8d04)
It would be PCI:1:0:0. But unless you have multiple video chipsets or 
are on a non-x86 (Pentium, AMD, etc) system, you should be able to leave 
this blank.

I also ran dselect to select,install and configure 'xserver-svga'
On typing startx, I got the following error msgs
SVGA PCI: S3 unknown chipset(0x8d04) rev 0, memory @ 0xdfe8000
Fix the BusID as mentioned above.
Looking at my monitor it is
Philips 105MB, 15"
However my XP display configuration is showing the following default 
settings:
Chip Type:S3 ProSavage DDR, Resloution 800x600, color 32bit, Memory 
32MB,and Refresh 60HZ

I really have no idea what's going on. I have reinstalled woody over 
15times in each case
recorded my steps but the error still persists. I'll not give up 
because Debian GNU/Linux
is the direction I want to take.
Except in very rare situations, reinstallations of Debian GNU/Linux is 
not necessary. It may be convenient, or it may be a good learning 
experience, but very rarely necessary.

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Re: Any way to search executable name?

[* Tong*]

Thanks everyone for the reply.

On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 22:08:02 +0200, Andreas Janssen wrote:

>> Is there any way to search executable name for it package?
>> 
>> For example, from efax.rc I know that it uses "paperconf" to determine
>> paper size. but apt-cache search can't find its package name...
> 
> You can use dpkg -L to list the contents of an installed package. 

You see, the reason I need to search is that I don't have that executable,
and what to know where it comes from. :-)

I think Oliver's answer might be the only answer.

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Changing hostname

[* Tong*]

Hi, 

Quick question how to change hostname under debian? 

I changed my /etc/hosts 
from 
127.0.0.1   cxmrlocalhost
to
127.0.0.1   cxmr.dyndns.org localhost

but why my hostname is still reporting merely 'cxmr'?
How to fix it? (Surely I've rebooted).

Thanks

PS. is it the reason that I can't start squid?:

# /etc/init.d/squid start
Starting proxy server: FATAL: Could not determine fully qualified hostname.  Please 
set 'visible_hostname'



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Re: postfix trusted network

[Rob Sims]

On Tuesday 06 July 2004 08:29 am, Frank Kaldewey wrote:
> Hi
> 
> postfix has to relay mails from a webserver(win2k) in LAN to WAN.
> 
> webserver  192.168.1.150
> 
> mailserver/postfix 192.168.1.100
> 
> I edit in etc/postfix/main.cf
> 
> mynetworks = 192.168.1.0/28, 127.0.0.0/8

Neither 192.168.1.100 nor 192.168.1.150 are in 192.168.1.0/28.  Try 
mynetworks = 192.168.1.0/24, 127.0.0.0/8
instead.
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Configuring X-Windows in Woody (Novice help)

[Janjs Jangori]

Confession: Am a complete novice and just had my first Linux installed by 
following the
'Installing Debian Linux 3.0(Woody)'.
However, when I login as root and type startx to get my GUI running I get 
the err message

x connection to :0.0 broken (Explicit kill or Server Shutdown)
I did realise that am not the first to encounter this error. I tried all the 
suggestions
given in the respective forums without success.

Part of my lspci output is:
01:0.0 VGA Compatable Controller: S3 Inc.: Unknown device 8d04.
When I ran
dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86
I was asked, among other things, to supply BUSID of the format PCI:nn:nn:nn
But I couldnt get this format from my lspci output(which I guess is 8d04)
I also ran dselect to select,install and configure 'xserver-svga'
On typing startx, I got the following error msgs
SVGA PCI: S3 unknown chipset(0x8d04) rev 0, memory @ 0xdfe8000
Looking at my monitor it is
Philips 105MB, 15"
However my XP display configuration is showing the following default 
settings:
Chip Type:S3 ProSavage DDR, Resloution 800x600, color 32bit, Memory 32MB,and 
Refresh 60HZ

I really have no idea what's going on. I have reinstalled woody over 15times 
in each case
recorded my steps but the error still persists. I'll not give up because 
Debian GNU/Linux
is the direction I want to take.
I sincerely appreciate help to get my GUI working.

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Re: tmda

[Paul Johnson]

"Monique Y. Mudama" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On 2004-07-12, Steve Lamb penned:
>>
>> I'm not sure what Karsten had in mind here but let me give my
>> first hand view on this piece.  My current employment gives me
>> access to TMDA in production use.  In one instance a client of
>> ours gets over 9,000 messages *a day*.  Virtually all of it is
>> spam.  They have configured TMDA to C-R.  So follow the math.
>
> Implementing a C/R system without first running the mail through some
> spam detection system is horribly irresponsible.

So false positives will never be able to get a challenge, right?  Though
if you're going to go through the trouble of doing spam filtering at
SMTP-time, that defeats the supposed purpose of TMDA to begin with.
You're on the right track, but you should have just said, "Implementing
a C/R system is horribly irresponsible," and left it at that.

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Re: How Might I Help?

[Hendrik Boom]

On Mon, Jul 12, 2004 at 11:53:52AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Greetings,
> 
> I have been using Debian with KDE since December and really love it.  I 
> haven't found it to be too challenging, and most of my questions and issues 
> were easily answered with research into lists like this one and google 
> searching.

Every time you had to go to the lists lo find out something, it's
an indication that the regular documentation wasn't adequate -- even
if only that you couldn't find the intformatin that was there.  You
could write the document you wish you had had when you started.  Or
improve one that might partially already exits. The Debian wiki
(http://wiki.debian.net/index.cgi?FrontPage) might be a good place to
contribute.  Or if you feel ambitious, write a book!

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Re: tmda (was Re: Attach filter)

[Monique Y. Mudama]

On 2004-07-12, Steve Lamb penned:
>
> I'm not sure what Karsten had in mind here but let me give my
> first hand view on this piece.  My current employment gives me
> access to TMDA in production use.  In one instance a client of
> ours gets over 9,000 messages *a day*.  Virtually all of it is
> spam.  They have configured TMDA to C-R.  So follow the math.

Implementing a C/R system without first running the mail through some
spam detection system is horribly irresponsible.  As they're you're
client, I hope you're making some effort to educate them and/or provide
them with that option.


[snip]

> Mind you that the offical TMDA party line might be to use it as
> part of a grander scheme 

I believe it is; at least, most of the folks on the tmda mailing list
believe this.  I don't know if it's explicitly stated in the docs.

TMDA also implements nifty things like dated and keyword addresses, btw.
I honestly don't know if these are available through other sources.

> but some people have come here to this list to tell those of us
> with a little clue that C-R (in particular their broken
> implementation, not TMDA) was far superior than spam filtering and
> that spam filtering simple was not needed and a waste.

That's unfortunate.

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ABOUT ICQ BULGARIA

[Деян Стоянов]

hi 
i've quetion about  ICQ -- Multi-User Installation

from where i can dowload
--Install the Debian JDK.
--ICQ tar ball ??

thank you

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Re: X freezes, chvt hangs.

[Greg Folkert]

On Mon, 2004-07-12 at 05:56, Karsten M. Self wrote:
> Problems with X locking up.
> 
> Different box from the slow drive problem posted earlier.
> 
> I've got a CappuccinoPC Mocha mini-ITX format system.  Pretty much
> everything's onboard.
> 
> Over the past several weeks I've had increasing problems with system
> stability, particularly with X.  'last' shows system boots on the 8th,
> 10th (twice) and 11th (three times).  Prior to that, 6/27, 6/9, and 6/4.
> 
> I'm a bit concerned about thermal damage as the system runs in a warmish
> ambient environment (95°F/35°C), and does periodically overheat and
> lock.  Graphics is integrated to the Mobo.
> 
> 
> 
> Typically, X freezes.  Mouse responds, but keyboard doesn't, including
> modifier keys such as capslock, numlock, and scroll/lock.
>  doesn't take me to a console.
> 
> The system as a whole is still running (I'm writing this shelled in
> under SSH).  Process table shows X still running, as well as my full X
> session.

Might be something as simple as your keyboard spooking the keyboard
controller on the motherboard. 

I had issue with a "cheaper" keyboard I'd purchased from a super-sale.
It had the neato Blue Back lighting on the keys.

I plugged my OLD IBM one back in... all is better.

Now, I have also heard that some USB keyboards are exhibiting a similar
trait in the 2.6.x with udev environ... along with the PS/2 variants.

I have also had "static build-up" with most versions of most OS. The fix
for that was: remove keyboard from socket. give a good ole "FEELING" to
ground it... plug it back in.

The static would give you a similar problem of lockup... as you forcing
something it discharges and off the machine goes into lala land.

Good luck.
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Re: How Might I Help?

[Juha Siltala]

On 2004-07-12, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> My question for you all is this, how might I help?  I want to give back to 

You seem to have a good idea about this yourself. Also, you can help 
newbies on the Usenet, these lists, and your own community. I think the 
local work is most important.

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Re: Any way to search executable name?

[Andreas Janssen]

Hello

* Tong* (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:

> Is there any way to search executable name for it package?
> 
> For example, from efax.rc I know that it uses "paperconf" to determine
> paper size. but apt-cache search can't find its package name...

You can use dpkg -L to list the contents of an installed package. Maybe
you want to do something like

dpkg -L package | grep bin

This should list at least all files that are stored in /bin, /sbin, 
usr/bin and /usr/sbin.

best regards
Andreas Janssen

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Re: DHCP Server choices

[j2]

> Are there any other alternatives for a DHCP server besides ISC and
dnsmasq?

Not really.. But ISC does evreythng you could possibly want. Why do you want
an alternative?


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Re: mounting floppy with fs auto doest recognize vfat

[Micha Feigin]

On Mon, Jul 12, 2004 at 11:46:38AM -0600, CW Harris wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 10, 2004 at 05:54:30PM -0700, Karsten M. Self wrote:
> > on Sat, Jun 26, 2004 at 12:30:53PM +, Stephen Patterson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
> > wrote:
> > > On Sat, 26 Jun 2004 13:10:04 +0200, Micha Feigin wrote:
> > > > When I try to mount a floppy with file system marked as auto in fstab
> > > > it does recognize vfat file system (disks from windows), I have to
> > > > specify vfat explicitly. Any way around that?
> > > 
> > > You can create /etc/filesystems, a text file with 1 filesystem per
> > > line. This indicates which order to attempt different filesystems for
> > > devices with fs-type auto.
> > 
> > ...and if you don't, you get autodetection in the order specified in
> > /proc/filesystems.  In which msdos (8.3) precedes vfat (long filename
> > support).
> 
> I think the order depends on your setup. msdos might always precede vfat
> if both compiled in kernel, but if they are modules the order depends on
> the order they are loaded (and if you only load vfat, msdos won't be in
> /proc/filesystems).

My problem apparently is that they are both modules and not loaded at
all (I depend on auto loading them) so they don't appear in
/proc/filesystems. The /etc/filesystems option should solve that
(didn't have the time to try yet).

> 
> > 
> > Peace.
> Indeed.
> 
> 
> 
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DHCP Server choices

[Daniel L. Miller]

Are there any other alternatives for a DHCP server besides ISC and dnsmasq?
Daniel
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Re: Disk tools in debian

[Oliver Elphick]

On Mon, 2004-07-12 at 19:52, David Fokkema wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 11, 2004 at 03:49:35PM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote:
> > I'm puzzled. I thought I might learn something by checking on this
> > fix to Tong's problem, but running as root on a Sarge system, I get
> > results just like Tong, and not like you, Oliver. I fail to see what
> > I could be doing wrong. Maybe there is a problem here.
> 
> Same here. Nothing. I am running Sid.

I guess someone who is seeing this problem should file a bug afainst
util-linux.

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Re: Any way to search executable name?

[Oliver Elphick]

On Mon, 2004-07-12 at 20:24, * Tong* wrote:
> Hi, 
> 
> Is there any way to search executable name for it package? 
> 
> For example, from efax.rc I know that it uses "paperconf" to determine
> paper size. but apt-cache search can't find its package name...

Go to http://packages.debian.org and search on package contents there.

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Re: Any way to search executable name?

[Carl Fink]

On Mon, Jul 12, 2004 at 03:24:49PM -0400, * Tong* wrote:

> Is there any way to search executable name for it package? 
> 
> For example, from efax.rc I know that it uses "paperconf" to determine
> paper size. but apt-cache search can't find its package name...

I'm not completely sure I understand the question, but if I do you
need "dpkg -S ".
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Any way to search executable name?

[* Tong*]

Hi, 

Is there any way to search executable name for it package? 

For example, from efax.rc I know that it uses "paperconf" to determine
paper size. but apt-cache search can't find its package name...




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Re: tmda (was Re: Attach filter)

[Steve Lamb]

David Fokkema wrote:
>>  - The math for C-R simply doesn't scale.

> ?

I'm not sure what Karsten had in mind here but let me give my first hand
view on this piece.  My current employment gives me access to TMDA in
production use.  In one instance a client of ours gets over 9,000 messages *a
day*.  Virtually all of it is spam.  They have configured TMDA to C-R.  So
follow the math.

9,000 messages a day for 14 days (default pending queue) is 126,000 messages
in the pending queue at any given time.  I believe this is a modified maildir
format.  Not pretty.

9,000 challenges sent out a day.  Most of which are to invalid addresses.
Those that aren't are sent to an innocent 3rd party.

Close to 9,000 bounces generated a day thanks to the above challenges being
sent out.

So for an initial investment of 9,000 messages we've generated close to
18,000 more, all of which are worthless but need to be processed.  Those are
tons of connections going out, loads of logs being written.  CPU time wasted,
hard-drive space taken up.  And that's just one client with a modest number of
addresses (5-6?).

C-R does not scale because in its best implementation, barring any other
filtering, is an n*2 (spam + challenge) and often is a n*3 solution (spam +
challenge + bounce).  As the spam problem gets worse C-R compounds it.

Mind you that the offical TMDA party line might be to use it as part of a
grander scheme but some people have come here to this list to tell those of us
with a little clue that C-R (in particular their broken implementation, not
TMDA) was far superior than spam filtering and that spam filtering simple was
not needed and a waste.

C-R works best when integrated into a larger spam-filtering solution.  IE,
any marginal message within a narrowly defined statistical range would get a
challenge.  Anything below that narrow range is passed through.  Anything
above is rejected.  But as Karsten has pointed out at that point what's the
point since filtering is doing virtually all the work anyway?

Filtering does not compound the problem.  Filter those 9k messages and
reject most at SMTP time you've only had to process 9,000 messages.  Not
18,000.  Not 24,000.  9,000.

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Re: How Might I Help?

[Florian Ernst]

Hello!

On Mon, Jul 12, 2004 at 11:53:52AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> My question for you all is this, how might I help?  I want to give back to 
> this extraordinary community.  I don't have the inclination to write code, 
> I'm not a programmer so can't really help in that way.  I can edit and 
> proof-read copy for user manuals etc, and I also have extensive experience 
> with graphics and layout programs from years of being a professional graphic 
> designer.  How can I contribute?

Due to the openness there are many ways how you can contribute,
perhaps try taking a look at
"How You Can Help" on 
and
"What needs to be done?" on .

It is great you want to offer some of yor knowledge and time for the
benefit of others, I hope you'll find something that suits you.

Cheers,
Flo


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