bad shutdown

[Silvan]

I think I have a CD-ROM going south.  I started the KDE CD ripper flummy, and 
then immediately stopped it.  I wound up with a kaudiocreator process hung up 
eating system CPU cycles and making my hard disk do unpleasant sounding 
things filling the log up with "hdd lost interrupt" messages.  The system was 
stable, but I didn't want to leave it doing that.

So I closed everything out, logged off, waited a bit, and then rebooted.  The 
last thing I saw before the reboot was a warning that /home was busy, and so 
was not umounted.

I booted into unclean/check forced mode on home and / both.  Fortunately, 
there were no serious problems.

Sure, I was having weird kernel interrupt problems, but it seems poorly 
conceived to me for the init scripts to take one shot at something as 
important as umounting everything, and then just say OK, to hell with it, 
let's reboot anyway.

I'm not sure what could have been done at that stage of the game, but I'm 
miffed I didn't even get the chance to try.

Anyone have any suggestions what I should do about this to increase the odds 
that this won't happen again.  (Other than getting rid of the CD ripper 
flummy and trying to remember not to try to use the damn CD-ROM until I get 
it replaced, I mean.)

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Re: how to manage services ?

[Robert Vangel]

Paul Johnson said:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> This isn't Hed Rat,
> Debian doesn't install a bunch of useless stuff by default.
>

I used RedHat for quite some time, and I found chkconfig very helpful indeed.
so was ntsysv

As for the original question, try package "sysvconfig" (testing & unstable),
it's very similar to RH's ntsysv.

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Drupal and its database

[Alan Chandler]

Yesterday evening I set up drupal.  Because postgres is already installed (not 
directly - it must be the result of some other package I am using) I asked it 
to use postgres as its database

When ever drupal runs now, it reports a database error - this includes a cron 
job which runs every 5 minutes - SO I got a lot of cron e-mail messages last 
night.

One of the questions it asked my during the drupal installation was what was 
the postgres administrators password.  I entered blank because I had never 
thought about it or changed it before.  Is this correct?

How can I see if the drupal database got installed - or whether its because I 
entered questions like this wrong during installation


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Re: PHP problems (Warning: session_start(): read returned less bytes than requested)

[Joost De Cock]

On Tuesday 03 August 2004 22:48, Bojan Baros hurled the following on the wire:
> Hello Deb-users...
>
> I started having some problems with PHP since the last upgrade, but I am
> not sure if it actually caused it.  I primarly use my web server for the
> Gallery.  The system is 100% unstable dist.

> Warning: session_start(): read returned less bytes than requested in
> /usr/share/gallery/session.php on line 60

Hello Bojan,

This looks like PHP Bug #21877
http://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=21877
but I'm not sure that it is present in your version.
If it is the bug, you can code around it (look for examples in the bug 
report), but since it's not your code, you may not be so eager to :)
What happens on line 60 in session.php. Or what version of gallery is setup, 
so I can check their webCVS.

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Re: Exim4 + ClamAV + Some Virii get through

[Alan Chandler]

On Tuesday 03 August 2004 20:07, Paul Johnson wrote:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
>
> Alan Chandler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Actually you can go further than that here is a sample from my config
> > file (I have recombined into a single exim4.conf file) Not only can
> > you reject malformed mime, you can reject certain attachments and call
> > the virus scanner.  The TEERGRUB conditions add 5 second delays
> > (TEERGRUB is set to 5) on these messages to slow any potential spammer
> > down by holding his connection for a short period of time.
>
> Only 5?  I'd go more like 30 or 60 if I were teergrubing.

My bad - I didn't check, and don't know why I thought it was 5.  Its actually 
set to 60.


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Re: how to manage services ?

[Paul Johnson]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> I am new to debina. I have certain services running like lpd rpc etc. In
> RedHat there is a command chkconfig with which i can start/ top services
> for certain run levels or completely stop it from running.

Well, first off, you only have installed an extremely minimal base
system plus anything you've chosen to install.  This isn't Hed Rat,
Debian doesn't install a bunch of useless stuff by default.


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Re: PHP .deb's with GD libraries

[Joost De Cock]

On Wednesday 04 August 2004 06:22, Brad Camroux hurled the following on the 
wire:
> Hi all,
>
> I'm just wondering if there are any PHP-GD packages available in .deb
> format.  I've googled, apt-cached, apt-get'ed, all to no avail.  Any help
> would be greatly appreciated.

I'm running sarge, and this is what I get:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ :) apt-cache search php | grep gd
gdancer - Visualization plug-in for xmms
php4-gd - GD module for php4
php4-gd2 - GD module (with GD2) for php4
php3-cgi-gd - GD (graphic creation) module for PHP3 (cgi)
php3-gd - GD (graphic creation) module for PHP3 (apache)

and it's available in stable to:
http://packages.debian.org/stable/web/php4-gd

So it seems to me you need to brush up your google/apt skills ;)

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Re: how to manage services ?

[Edvard Majakari]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> I am new to debina. I have certain services running like lpd rpc etc. In
> RedHat there is a command chkconfig with which i can start/ top services
> for certain run levels or completely stop it from running.

You'd like to check manpage of update-rc.d

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Re: how to manage services ?

[Magnus Therning]

On Wed, Aug 04, 2004 at 10:02:07AM +0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I am new to debina. I have certain services running like lpd rpc etc.
>In RedHat there is a command chkconfig with which i can start/ top
>services for certain run levels or completely stop it from running.
>
>Can someone suggest how to do it in debian.

I'd guess what you are looking for is '/usr/sbin/update-rc.d'. Of course
it probably isn't as flashy as RedHat's tool. The following might be of
use as well (in case you don't know of them yet):

 runlevel - shows previous and current runlevel
 /etc/init.d/* - all the init scripts for different services
 /etc/rc?.d - links into /etc/init.d/, one dir for each runlevel

/M

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Re: I hate it when that happens...

[Silvan]

On Tuesday 03 August 2004 11:31 am, Juha Siltala wrote:
> On 2004-08-03, Silvan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I don't really care.  I'm not getting graded on how good my HTML looks.
>
> That's right! Screw them markup police! :)

Exactly.

> I have rescued some text from an OO.o file, but the document was very
> simple. I guess that when OO.o is dead and archeologists in the year 2500,
> they will have an advanced bash script to get the text out. :)

One can only hope the command line is still around 500 years from now.  :)

Though I figure by then things like keyboards will be obsolete in favor of 
some kind of wireless transmitter surgically implanted into people's skulls 
at birth or something.

I guess we don't have to worry about it, do we?  :)

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Re: How to add new Windows Manager to KDM?

[Paul Johnson]

Kent West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Scott Thompson wrote:
>
>>I want to add a new entry to the Session Types menu in kdm.  Everything I
>>could find says either edit the SessionTypes entry in kdmrc or add a session
>>through the KDE Control Panel.  My login configuration applet in control
>>panel does not have a place to add a new session and the only kdmrc file
>>that my system has has no entry for SessionTypes.  Where else do I look?
>
> It was my impression that if you just apt-get install a new window
> manager it'll automagically get added to the list. Do you already have
> this new wm installed?

What list?  I don't see a list in my kdm...


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how to manage services ?

[debi]

Hi,

I am new to debina. I have certain services running like lpd rpc etc. In RedHat there 
is a command chkconfig with which i can start/ top services for certain run levels or 
completely stop it from running.

Can someone suggest how to do it in debian.

Regards
Azher


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Re: How to add new Windows Manager to KDM?

[Chris Metzler]

On Tue, 3 Aug 2004 18:06:11 -0500 
Scott Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I want to add a new entry to the Session Types menu in kdm.  Everything
> I could find says either edit the SessionTypes entry in kdmrc or add a
> session through the KDE Control Panel.  My login configuration applet in
> control panel does not have a place to add a new session and the only
> kdmrc file that my system has has no entry for SessionTypes.  Where else
> do I look?

What version of kdm are you running?

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Re: Debian Unstable not updating?

[Paul Johnson]

Jules Dubois <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Tue, 03 Aug 2004 00:56:29 -0400, Zaq Rizer wrote:
>
>> Kelly Harding wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> I've been running Debian for about a year or two now.
>>>
>>> I've had no real problems I've not been able to sort out with using
>>> google or the debian documentation.
>>>
>>> However, I appear to have a puzzling problem that I can't think where
>>> best to look for answers.
>>>
>>> Doing 'apt-get update;apt-get -u dist-upgrade' doesn't produce any
>>> updates to packages needed.
>>>
>> Perhaps strace the apt-get process...
>
> And check /etc/apt/preferences for the "Pin-Priority" of the
> distributions.  I had the same problem for months.  About two weeks
> ago, and a certain Martin J. Hillyer suggested this.

I don't think that is the problem.  Stable doesn't update frequently and
unstable hasn't had anything new in a couple days.  Probably because the
developers are working on getting sarge into stable by next month.


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RE: How to add new Windows Manager to KDM?

[Scott Thompson]

> -Original Message-
> From: Kent West [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 11:24 PM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: Re: How to add new Windows Manager to KDM?
> 
> 
> Scott Thompson wrote:
> 
> >I want to add a new entry to the Session Types menu in kdm.  
> Everything 
> >I could find says either edit the SessionTypes entry in 
> kdmrc or add a 
> >session through the KDE Control Panel.  My login 
> configuration applet 
> >in control panel does not have a place to add a new session and the 
> >only kdmrc file that my system has has no entry for SessionTypes.  
> >Where else do I look?
> >
> >
> >  
> >
> It was my impression that if you just apt-get install a new window 
> manager it'll automagically get added to the list. Do you 
> already have 
> this new wm installed?
> 
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It's not available through apt.  I downloaded and installed it from the web.


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PHP .deb's with GD libraries

[Brad Camroux]

Hi all,

I'm just wondering if there are any PHP-GD packages available in .deb format.  I've 
googled, apt-cached, apt-get'ed,
all to no avail.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers,

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Re: email questions...

[Kent West]

Mario Flores wrote:
Hi:
I can read my ISP's email using mozilla (POP mail account), I can read 
my local email using 'mail' (with exim being the mta). But I cannot 
send emial from my local mail account to the rest of the world or to 
my ISP's email address. How can I do that?

I'm no expert. I'd suggest trying "dpkg-reconfigure exim", and I think 
#2 is the option you want (Smarthost).

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Re: /proc/loadavg disagrees with top and ps

[Tim Connors]

Paul Gear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said on Wed, 04 Aug 2004 07:03:12 +1000:
> This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156)
> --enig162A5A009C607900848B2DE4
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> 
> Reid Priedhorsky wrote:
> > Hello everyone,
> > 
> > /proc/loadavg currently reports the following:
> > 
> >   0.96 0.98 0.78 1/116 23994
> > 
> > xload also reports roughly the same.
> > 
> > But top and ps both report a nearly idle system (98% idle). What is going
> > on? How can I find out what is causing my system to be so busy?
> 
> I've seen load averages of 14 and 16 when the CPU usage was on 10%.  The
> two are usually, but not necessarily, related.  There are certain types
> of work where this behaviour will be seen.  Even low amounts of I/O to a
> slow device, if done by enough processes could cause this.

As a test one day, I mounted nfs over the modem, and ran about 300
processes doing a find over the modem. CPU usage was ~10%, 15 minute
load was above 200 :)

As opposed to undergrad, where in the last 2 days before the semester
project was due, when the lusers discovered they might need to think
about *starting* their projects, the load on the 4 poor 8 proc sun
boxen would hit 373. We actually witnessed a wraparound at some point,
where the load seemed to go down to 8, yet intereactivity was still
thouroughly poor.

At that time, I tried to help someone track down a missing brace in
their C code, so I fired up emacs, waited 8 minutes, pressed C-x h
C-M-\ and waited for another half hour before giving up and leaving
her to fend for herself :)

Oh - and the waiting 5 seconds for your bash *shell* to echo a single
character keypress. .

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Re: sql-ledger and postgresql: HOWTO?

[John Summerfield]

John Hasler wrote:
John Summerfield writes:
 

Web interfaces have their advantages though: for example, you client
machine can be anything anywhere running any web browser. One of the
things users like about sql-ledger is that you can do work at a client
site, connect to your accounts (possibly using their machine), print up
an invoice, process the payment & give them the receipt.
   

I would never make my accounting system accessible from the Net.  I would
like it to be accessible on the LAN, though, and https seems like a good
way to do that.
 

It's a good way to demonstrate it:-)
 

Also, using a web interface pretty much requires the application be
multiuser.
   

That's a given, isn't it?  I'd also want a text interface.  My wife hates
GUIs.
 

Write so it works with links, elinks, lynx and w3m

Eiffel would offend those users who are especially keen on free software,
and ensure that the sotware would, at best, be in contrib.
   

I would not be interested in a non-free package.
I have a toy system I spent some time on after I dropped out of the Gnucash
project.  It uses Python and Postgresql and illustrates some ideas I was
unable to sell to the Gnucash folks, such as using a journal as the
fundamental data structure.  I haven't looked at it in years, so it has
probably suffered bit-rot.
 

I've looked at gnucash over some years, but it has never seemed likely 
to do anything useful to me.

Python seems sensible to me. given what RH has done with Anaconda - 
text-mode and GUI installer plus completely automatic installs.

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Re: How to add new Windows Manager to KDM?

[Kent West]

Scott Thompson wrote:
I want to add a new entry to the Session Types menu in kdm.  Everything I
could find says either edit the SessionTypes entry in kdmrc or add a session
through the KDE Control Panel.  My login configuration applet in control
panel does not have a place to add a new session and the only kdmrc file
that my system has has no entry for SessionTypes.  Where else do I look?
 

It was my impression that if you just apt-get install a new window 
manager it'll automagically get added to the list. Do you already have 
this new wm installed?

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Re: sql-ledger and postgresql: HOWTO?

[John Summerfield]

John Hasler wrote:
John Summerfield writes:
 

Web interfaces have their advantages though: for example, you client
machine can be anything anywhere running any web browser. One of the
things users like about sql-ledger is that you can do work at a client
site, connect to your accounts (possibly using their machine), print up
an invoice, process the payment & give them the receipt.
   

I would never make my accounting system accessible from the Net.  I would
like it to be accessible on the LAN, though, and https seems like a good
way to do that.
 

It's a good way to demonstrate it:-)
 

Also, using a web interface pretty much requires the application be
multiuser.
   

That's a given, isn't it?  I'd also want a text interface.  My wife hates
GUIs.
 

Write so it works with links, elinks, lynx and w3m

Eiffel would offend those users who are especially keen on free software,
and ensure that the sotware would, at best, be in contrib.
   

I would not be interested in a non-free package.
I have a toy system I spent some time on after I dropped out of the Gnucash
project.  It uses Python and Postgresql and illustrates some ideas I was
unable to sell to the Gnucash folks, such as using a journal as the
fundamental data structure.  I haven't looked at it in years, so it has
probably suffered bit-rot.
 

I've looked at gnucash over some years, but it has never seemed likely 
to do anything useful to me.

Python seems sensible to me. given what RH has done with Anaconda - 
text-mode and GUI installer plus completely automatic installs.

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why swsusp not compiled?

[Randall Smith]

Can someone tell me why swsusp and pmdisk are not compiled with the 2.6 
kernel?  I'd like to have this feature on my laptop, but don't like the 
idea of keeping up with a custom kernel.

Randall
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Re: bad sources.list

[Jules Dubois]

On Tue, 03 Aug 2004 16:35:58 -0400, Brian Astill wrote:

> I am trying to get my system to contact my ISP's mirror, first, before
> going further outside.
> # Testing
> deb ftp://ftp.filearena.net/pub/debian/pool/ testing main contrib non-free

I don't see filearena.net in my list of public mirrors.  You're sure they
have a Debian mirror?

> Here is the warning I get:
> W: Couldn't stat source package list ftp://ftp.filearena.net testing/main
> Packages
> (/var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.filearena.net_pub_debian_pool_dists_testing_main_binary-i386_Packages)
> - stat (2 No such file or directory)

Did you run 'apt-get update' after adding filearena.net to sources.list?


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Re: Debian Unstable not updating?

[Jules Dubois]

On Tue, 03 Aug 2004 00:56:29 -0400, Zaq Rizer wrote:

> Kelly Harding wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> I've been running Debian for about a year or two now.
>>
>> I've had no real problems I've not been able to sort out with using
>> google or the debian documentation.
>>
>> However, I appear to have a puzzling problem that I can't think where
>> best to look for answers.
>>
>> Doing 'apt-get update;apt-get -u dist-upgrade' doesn't produce any
>> updates to packages needed.
>>
> Perhaps strace the apt-get process...

And check /etc/apt/preferences for the "Pin-Priority" of the
distributions.  I had the same problem for months.  About two weeks
ago, and a certain Martin J. Hillyer suggested this.

Thank you, Mr. Hillyer.


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Re: Capturing all bootup messages

[Ogya Chief]

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Capturing all bootup messages
Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2004 16:54:31 +0200
On Tue, Aug 03, 2004 at 09:40:35AM -0500, Kent West wrote:
> >My question now is this: how can I record all those messages into a
> >log file or, how can I pause the system to read those message?
> >Pressing control-C or shift-break does not pause the system.
> >
> We really need some standard way of capturing those messages. I think
> I've heard of some switch you can add or line you can uncomment in
> /etc/init.d/bootlog, but I'm not sure.
Hello,
it's true; you really should take a look at bootlogd and its init
scripts.
andrej
I will have a look at the files as suggested.
Thanks to everyone who made a suggestion.
Regards
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Re: Capturing all bootup messages

[Ogya Chief]

We really need some standard way of capturing those messages. I think I've 
heard of some switch you can add or line you can uncomment in 
/etc/init.d/bootlog, but I'm not sure.

One way that should work is to deactivate any auto-startup of X (kdm, etc) 
and then the next boot will stop at a console login. From there you can 
Shift-PgUp to scroll through the messages. (This ability gets lost if the 
system switches to a graphical display.)

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Re: root file system has unknown type

[Paul Johnson]

csj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On 2. August 2004 at 10:05PM -0700,
> Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Micha Feigin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> 
>> > Anyone knows whats causing the root file system to be
>> > displayed as unknown?
>> 
>> Filesystem corruption most likely.
>
> What sort of filesystem corruption are we looking at?  I'm also
> having the problem on a desktop system:

I'm not sure, OP didn't provide enough clues to start with.


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Re: Installing Sarge

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On Tue, 3 Aug 2004 18:00:19 +0100
Ricky Clarkson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I would guess that either both CDROMs are faulty (unlikely) or
> that the machine's RAM or hard drive are faulty (more likely). 
> You can test both, but I don't know how.

Both CDROMs are rather old - so that may be the problem.
I'll check the RAM.
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Re: root file system has unknown type

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On Tue, Aug 03, 2004 at 07:57:02PM +0200, Wim De Smet wrote:
> And how would somebody know that it is a bug in initscripts? I would
> check the mount bugs (actually I had it and I didn't but I was lazy
> that day) and not find the bug and think it's something local.

I originally googled for it when I first noticed the condition on my own
box... the BTS posting popped right up.  But it's logical that it'd be on
either sysvinit, initscripts or on mount... how else do you think the root
filesystem gets mounted?

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Re: email questions...

[John Summerfield]

Mario Flores wrote:
Hi:
I can read my ISP's email using mozilla (POP mail account), I can read 
my local email using 'mail' (with exim being the mta). But I cannot 
send emial from my local mail account to the rest of the world or to 
my ISP's email address. How can I do that?

For me, it "just works." You need to do a little exploration and find 
messages that show what's wrong. Log files in /var/log are good places 
to look.

In addition, how can I send emial via a script? That is to set up a 
cron job to send an email locally or to someone on the internet (using 
my ISP email account since I don't have a valid DNS name). I tried 
'mail' but could not get a message to be sent with a single command line.

Attend to the first part first. Then the mail command should work much 
like this:
ls -lR | mail -s "I have these files" [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I have read that fetchmail can retrieve POP mail, but I could not find 
a program that does the opposite without being interactive.

You should be able to use the sendmail directly if the mail command as 
above is unsatisfactory. Once you have the first problem sorted out.

If you want a cheap domain name, go see www.dyndns.org and get one of 
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Re: sql-ledger and postgresql: HOWTO?

[John Hasler]

John Summerfield writes:
> Web interfaces have their advantages though: for example, you client
> machine can be anything anywhere running any web browser. One of the
> things users like about sql-ledger is that you can do work at a client
> site, connect to your accounts (possibly using their machine), print up
> an invoice, process the payment & give them the receipt.

I would never make my accounting system accessible from the Net.  I would
like it to be accessible on the LAN, though, and https seems like a good
way to do that.

> Also, using a web interface pretty much requires the application be
> multiuser.

That's a given, isn't it?  I'd also want a text interface.  My wife hates
GUIs.

> Eiffel would offend those users who are especially keen on free software,
> and ensure that the sotware would, at best, be in contrib.

I would not be interested in a non-free package.

I have a toy system I spent some time on after I dropped out of the Gnucash
project.  It uses Python and Postgresql and illustrates some ideas I was
unable to sell to the Gnucash folks, such as using a journal as the
fundamental data structure.  I haven't looked at it in years, so it has
probably suffered bit-rot.
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Re: HP all-in-one PSC 1110 USB

[John Summerfield]

I agree with John, I have an HP PSC-2110 and it works very well in sarge.
hpoj is a must have.
Good luck,
 

Thanks Mike. Sometimes a "me too" is a good followup.
I reckon a Debian box under one of these kinds of devices might make a 
handy print server much more cheaply than any printer with a built-in 
disk drive. The duty cycle wouldn' t  be there, but the utility would be.

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Re: Is Linux Unix?

[Ryo Furue]

Roel Schroeven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> Jeronimo Pellegrini wrote:
[...]
> > Actually, the first version works -- and both C and C++ (tested here with
> > gcc -- not sure it it became a standard or not)) will dynamically allocate
> > memory for you. Try this:
> > 
> > int size1, size2, i, j;
> > cin >> size1;
> > cin >> size2;
> > double vec[size1][size2];
> > 
> > And enter something like "1000" and "1000" when asked for the array dimensions.
> > It compiles, runs, and does not segfault! :-)
> 
> Are you absolutely sure that code is supposed to work?
> 
> Your program segfaults on cygwin (using gcc 3.3.1) when using 1000 and 
> 1000. On my sarge installation (gcc 3.3.4) it seems to work when using 
> 1000 and 1000, but segfaults when using 1000 and 1. Either you were 
> lucky, or it's a feature that's introduced in more recent versions of gcc.

There is a posibility that you run out of stackspace.  I guess these
dynamically sized arrays are allocated on the stack.  You might want to
try setting the stacksize to "unlimited".

I've found that gcc has implemented this at least for seven years or so.
If I remember correctly I found a news article in the google groups dated
in 1996 which mentions this feature of gcc.

Also, I found that the C99 standard incorporated this feature:

   http://home.tiscalinet.ch/t_wolf/tw/c/c9x_changes.html

It's interesting that some of the new features are (or seem to me to be)
mainly for numerical computations, such as the "restrict" keyword and
the builtin complex numbers.  I suspect they are influenced by Fortran.
And it's amusing to see that C99 has *at last* caught up with Fortran 77
(partly with Fortran 90/95) in terms of dynamically sized multidimensional
arrays, complex arithmetics, and "restrict"ed pointers, although C99 lags
far behind Fortran 90/95 in terms of intrinsic array operations. ;-)

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email questions...

[Mario Flores]

Hi:
I can read my ISP's email using mozilla (POP mail account), I can read 
my local email using 'mail' (with exim being the mta). But I cannot send 
emial from my local mail account to the rest of the world or to my ISP's 
email address. How can I do that?

In addition, how can I send emial via a script? That is to set up a cron 
job to send an email locally or to someone on the internet (using my ISP 
email account since I don't have a valid DNS name). I tried 'mail' but 
could not get a message to be sent with a single command line.

I have read that fetchmail can retrieve POP mail, but I could not find a 
program that does the opposite without being interactive.

Thanks,
Mario.

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Re: HP all-in-one PSC 1110 USB

[Mike Chandler]

On Tuesday 03 August 2004 06:05 pm, John Summerfield wrote:
> Please, don't crosspost lists and newsgroups: it's bad enough having my
> email address in Debian archives without having it in newgroups too.
>
> Had I noticed before beginning to reply, 
>
> Wolfgang Zocher wrote:
> >Hi all,
> >
> >I have lots of problems getting the HP PSC 1110 running under woody 3.0 r2
> >using kernel 2.4.18-k7. At the very beginning I tried to use hpoj-0.8x
> > from stable and the corresponding libusb, printer.o etc. (all from
> > stable). But either printing nor scanning worked; hptal-init setup told
> > me, that there is a device psc-1110 from vendor HP but there was no way
> > to talk to this device.
> >
> >So I got the latest hpoj sources and the latest libusb sources, installed
> > all the stuff - the result is the same.
> >
> >Then I tried printing with foomatic-rip and hpijs-0.16 and, surprise, it
> >works.
> >
> >My question: is there any body out there who succeeded with installing
> > hpoj AND printing AND scanning via ptal with woody r2 2.4.18? Is there a
> > chance to get the scanner working without using hpoj?
>
> Since hpoj is the HP-supported  OSS project speficially  to support
> these devices, I wouldn't expect so.
>
> Also, were I to acquire one of these HP all-in-one devices (and I have
> been considering it), I would most assuredly go straight to Sarge.
>
> According to email I got from HP recently, this project supports all
> current and near-future devices BUT woody is just too ancient.
>
>
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I agree with John, I have an HP PSC-2110 and it works very well in sarge.
hpoj is a must have.

Good luck,


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Re: HP all-in-one PSC 1110 USB

[John Summerfield]

Please, don't crosspost lists and newsgroups: it's bad enough having my 
email address in Debian archives without having it in newgroups too.

Had I noticed before beginning to reply, 
Wolfgang Zocher wrote:
Hi all,
I have lots of problems getting the HP PSC 1110 running under woody 3.0 r2
using kernel 2.4.18-k7. At the very beginning I tried to use hpoj-0.8x from
stable and the corresponding libusb, printer.o etc. (all from stable). But
either printing nor scanning worked; hptal-init setup told me, that there is a
device psc-1110 from vendor HP but there was no way to talk to this device.
So I got the latest hpoj sources and the latest libusb sources, installed all
the stuff - the result is the same.
Then I tried printing with foomatic-rip and hpijs-0.16 and, surprise, it
works. 

My question: is there any body out there who succeeded with installing hpoj AND
printing AND scanning via ptal with woody r2 2.4.18? Is there a chance to get
the scanner working without using hpoj?
 

Since hpoj is the HP-supported  OSS project speficially  to support 
these devices, I wouldn't expect so.

Also, were I to acquire one of these HP all-in-one devices (and I have 
been considering it), I would most assuredly go straight to Sarge.

According to email I got from HP recently, this project supports all 
current and near-future devices BUT woody is just too ancient.


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Re: /proc/loadavg disagrees with top and ps

[John Summerfield]

Edvard Majakari wrote:
John Summerfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
 

As such, load averages below 1 mean system doesn't have any processes
(except perhaps the one being run) waiting to be served.

 

I believe it includes the one running.
.96 is very far from idle.
   

Yes, that's why I put the "(except perhaps the one being run)" part. Sorry
for the misleading statement. Shouldn't write stuff before actually waking
up..
 

Some twenty years ago, I was on a communications course,and one of the 
things I learned then and still recall as that the shopper being served 
is in the queue.

I learned things about queues then that supermarkets still get wrong:-((
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Re: /proc/loadavg disagrees with top and ps

[John Summerfield]

Nate Duehr wrote:
On Aug 3, 2004, at 11:12 AM, John Summerfield wrote:
I/I activity can push the load average up too: a high load average 
does not mean the CPU is busy, though it often is.

Is that a typo John, I think you meant "I/O" as in input/output... 
correct?

Indeed I do. I'm really not a very precise typist at all, and wrong 
keypresses give me enormous difficulty.

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Re: sql-ledger and postgresql: HOWTO?

[John Summerfield]

Oliver Elphick wrote:
Are we talking about a web page interface here? Say Pg + Php?
If so I have the beginnings of a payroll module I could contribute.
It's built to ato rules of PAYE for dotAU but maybe there's enough in common 
to suit other places.
   

I'm not all that keen on web interfaces; as far as I can see, from my
limited and reluctant experience of writing them, the programming
languages are poor and debugging is a nightmare.  I was thinking on the
lines of glade + Python or Eiffel.  However the underlying database
structure should be the same, and I would insist on putting all the
consistency rules into the database (triggers, foreign keys, etc.) so
you could possibly have two different interfaces to the same database.
 

Web interfaces have their advantages though: for example, you client 
machine can be anything anywhere running any web browser. One of the 
things users like about sql-ledger is that you can do work at a client 
site, connect to your accounts (possibly using their machine), print up 
an invoice, process the payment & give them the receipt.

Also, using a web interface pretty much requires  the application be 
multiuser.

Eiffel would offend those users who are especially keen on free 
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Re: /proc/loadavg disagrees with top and ps

[Paul Gear]

Greg Folkert wrote:
> ...
> Or how about a multi-threaded App server running hundreds(thousands in
> some cases) of servlets a minute... I admin'd a 32 Processor, 32GB of
> Memory machine that was capable of running a couple of thousand servlets
> a minute.
> 
> The load average on this machine usually stood at about 120-150 on a
> busy day. On rush days, sometime 270+. With no effect on inter-active
> logins or performance... though I did have to re-configure some of the
> other services to accept connections at high LA. (like the MTA)

I was speaking only for us povo sysadmins with single CPUs.  :-)

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WinModem, PPP and strange hangups

[Cook, Tom]

Hi all,

I have a Dell Inspiron 5100 laptop, but this is not a particularly
laptop-specific question.

This laptop has an Intel810 soundcard with WinModem.  I am trying to get
this going under Debian, mostly unstable.

I tend to roll my own kernels.  I use ALSA, and have the snd-intel8x0m
module compiled and inserted in the kernel (built from the 2.6.5 package
from kernel.org).

I have downloaded the latest slmodem package (2.9.9 (I think - at a
'doze box at the moment)).  I compiled the slmodemd with the
SUPPORT_ALSA=1 option.  This all worked fine.

I can start slmodemd with the options '-c 09 -a' (09 is Australia) and
it seems to work OK.

I have a PPP connection set up with an ISP that I can connect to from
another Debian unstable box (but that one has a real modem).  I use PAP
authentication.

When I try to connect to the ISP using pon, the modem dials out, pppd
authenticates with the ISP, gets a dynamic IP address and sets up
routing correctly.  At this point I can ping machines on the internet,
do DNS lookups using host, telnet to a web server and get pages from it,
and generally access the internet from the command line.

But it all goes pear-shaped as soon as I fire up a web-browser and try
to access a web-site.  The phone line gets hung up - no traffic will go
across the link, and I can pick up a handset and hear a dialtone.
However, pppd keeps running, and ifconfig still reports the link as live
(although dropping packets like crazy).

This is driving me nuts!  I am completely baffled about why a
web-browser in particular should cause a modem to hang up.

Anyone got any ideas?

Thanks,
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Re: Resize partitions urgent help

[Carl Fink]

On Tue, Aug 03, 2004 at 11:34:29PM +0300, David Baron wrote:
> When I put in a second disk in my Windows box and could not get fdisk to work, 
> I shelled out the money for ParitionMagic. Does the job--reparitioning is 
> scarey, especially when there is already data on the disk.

I used BOOT-IT, which is much cheaper and worked perfectly.  You need a
Windows system (not necessarily the one being partitioned) to use it, at
least the downloaded version -- it's a Windows program that creates a boot
diskette or CD-ROM.  I haven't tried it under WINE.
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How to add new Windows Manager to KDM?

[Scott Thompson]

I want to add a new entry to the Session Types menu in kdm.  Everything I
could find says either edit the SessionTypes entry in kdmrc or add a session
through the KDE Control Panel.  My login configuration applet in control
panel does not have a place to add a new session and the only kdmrc file
that my system has has no entry for SessionTypes.  Where else do I look?


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RE: How Do I Get the Java Plugin To Work with Firefox and Mozilla ?

[Scott Thompson]

It took me about 5 minutes to get java working.  Go to the Sun website,
click on download J2SE JRE and download the self-executing binary for linux.
http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/download.html

Create new directory under /usr called java.  Copy the .bin file to
/usr/java and execute it.  (chmod +x [filename]) then (./[filename])

After agreeing to the license, it will unpack its files.  In a terminal, go
to your firefox/plugins directory and remove or rename any file called
libjavaplugin_oji.so and then type: ln -s
/usr/java/j2re1.4.2_05/plugin/i386/ns610-gcc32/libjavaplugin_oji.so

That's it.  Start up firefox and check about:plugins.  It should show the
java.  Worked for me anyway.


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Re: Fixing Wireless PC Card 16550A UART Serial Device Assignment

[Michael G. Morey]

Luke Anderson wrote:
On Friday 30 July 2004 19:56, Michael G. Morey wrote:
 

All,
I'm running Debian GNU/Linux 3.0r1 with hotplug, modutils, pciutils, and
usbutils back-ports from www.backports.org, on a Dell Latitude D800
laptop.  I'm running a custom Linux 2.4.26 kernel I've built from a
Debianized back-port, configured for 16550A UART support for PC card
devices.  I have a wireless modem PC card device, which maps alternately
to /dev/ttyS01 and /dev/ttyS02, seemingly at random.  I have a total of
three serial UART devices, and would like to have devices assigned
accordingly:
/dev/ttyS0:  built-in serial port
/dev/ttyS1:  Conexant HSF Softmodem with Linuxant driver
/dev/ttyS2:  Sony Ericsson EDGE PC Card GC82 wireless modem
On a good boot, the devices are assigned as follows:
ttyS00 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
ttySHSF0 at I/O 0xb400 (irq = 11) is a Conexant HSF softmodem
ttyS02 at port 0x03e8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A
However, occasionally, the devices are assigned as follows:
ttyS00 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
ttySHSF0 at I/O 0xb400 (irq = 11) is a Conexant HSF softmodem
ttyS01 at port 0x03e8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A
My dmesg output is attached.  I apologize if the attachment is not
accessible to some.
Does anyone know of a way that I fix the PC Card serial device
assignment permanently, to /dev/ttyS02?
In general, could anyone offer suggestions as how to fine-tune the
loading of device driver modules using the hotplug and/or modutils
packages?  When is hotplug appropriate, and when is it not?  Which
modules should be pre-loaded through /etc/modules?
   

I think you may have hit the nail on the head there, /etc/modules should be 
used for devices that you are going to use all the time, whereas hotplug is 
for things that aren't connected all the time.

The best solution would be to load the modules in /etc/modules.conf of the 
respective devices, in the order you want them used.

Seeing as you don't have enough devices and you want to use ttyS02, perhaps a 
link in dev would suffice?

cd /dev
rm ttyS02
ln ttyS01 ttyS02
Will cause ttyS01 and ttyS02 to refer to the same physical device.
This should sort out your problem.

 

Please advise me if I'm omitting any pertinent details regarding my
configuration.
Thanks in advance.
Michael
   


 

Actually, it's not the device file assignment which is the problem.  
It's the set of resources the device uses.  The kernel reports the 
device at /dev/ttyS01 or ttyS02.  The actual devices are /dev/ttyS1 or 
/dev/ttyS2.  Regardless of the device file name, the IRQ and/or I/O 
memory ranges are different.  My frustration lies in my ability to 
predict which IRQ and/or I/O memory range the device will be assigned at 
boot time.  I'd like very much to fix these parameters, but do not know 
how to do so, since it seems to be under the control of the hotplug 
subsystem, which has its own idea of how to allocate device resources.

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Re: /proc/loadavg disagrees with top and ps

[Greg Folkert]

On Tue, 2004-08-03 at 17:03, Paul Gear wrote:
> Reid Priedhorsky wrote:
> > Hello everyone,
> > 
> > /proc/loadavg currently reports the following:
> > 
> >   0.96 0.98 0.78 1/116 23994
> > 
> > xload also reports roughly the same.
> > 
> > But top and ps both report a nearly idle system (98% idle). What is going
> > on? How can I find out what is causing my system to be so busy?
> 
> I've seen load averages of 14 and 16 when the CPU usage was on 10%.  The
> two are usually, but not necessarily, related.  There are certain types
> of work where this behaviour will be seen.  Even low amounts of I/O to a
> slow device, if done by enough processes could cause this.

Or how about a multi-threaded App server running hundreds(thousands in
some cases) of servlets a minute... I admin'd a 32 Processor, 32GB of
Memory machine that was capable of running a couple of thousand servlets
a minute.

The load average on this machine usually stood at about 120-150 on a
busy day. On rush days, sometime 270+. With no effect on inter-active
logins or performance... though I did have to re-configure some of the
other services to accept connections at high LA. (like the MTA)
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Re: root file system has unknown type

[csj]

On 2. August 2004 at 10:05PM -0700,
Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Micha Feigin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > Anyone knows whats causing the root file system to be
> > displayed as unknown?
> 
> Filesystem corruption most likely.

What sort of filesystem corruption are we looking at?  I'm also
having the problem on a desktop system:

~ $ df -hT | grep unknown
/dev/hda6  unknown274M   88M  173M  34% /
~ $ cat /etc/fstab | grep hda6
/dev/hda6   /   ext3defaults,errors=remount-ro  0   1

> > whether this is scheduled to be fixed at some point in the
> > future?
> 
> I can't answer that.  Grab your PDA and find out when you've
> made time to reinstall.


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Re: Locale problem in Debian

[Patrick Donker]

Ajitabh Pandey wrote:
Hello All,
It seems that I am facinf some locale related problem
in Debian woody. whenever I do an apt-get on any
package or run yahoo messenger or anjuta I get local
related error messages. I run these programs through
xterm.
The message I received is:

perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
   LANGUAGE = (unset),
   LC_ALL = (unset),
   LANG = "en_US.UTF-8"
are supported and installed on your system.
perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale
("C").
locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such
file or direcory
locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No
such file or directory
locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such
file or directory

Did you already try dpkg-reconfigure locales
-Patrick
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Re: libxine1 or xserver-xfree86 bug? (Was: on sarge xine crashes X)

[csj]

On 2. August 2004 at 3:16PM +0200,
"Fabio Marzocca" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I have the same problem (X crashes on xine.) If I run xine -V
> XShm it works fine, so the problem is related to XVideo of my
> ATI Rage Pro card. XFree86 4.3 ATI driver does not support
> XVideo. I should try installing gatos drivers, but it could be
> a mess when XFree updates...

Over a year ago I had a Rage card of some sort (I suspect it was
a Pro).  I didn't use the ATI driver that came with the Debian
XFree86 package.  I used the special mach64 driver, which got me
OpenGL in addition to XVideo support.  I got mine from the second
of the three links below.  The third link appears to be the
"home" page for the driver.

http://people.debian.org/~daenzer/dri-mach64/
http://people.debian.org/~daenzer/dri-mach64-sid/
http://www.retinalburn.net/linux/index.html
ftp://ftp.retinalburn.net/pub/mach64/


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Locale problem in Debian

[Ajitabh Pandey]

Hello All,

It seems that I am facinf some locale related problem
in Debian woody. whenever I do an apt-get on any
package or run yahoo messenger or anjuta I get local
related error messages. I run these programs through
xterm.
The message I received is:

perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
   LANGUAGE = (unset),
   LC_ALL = (unset),
   LANG = "en_US.UTF-8"
are supported and installed on your system.
perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale
("C").
locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such
file or direcory
locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No
such file or directory
locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such
file or directory


Can someone tell me how can I reset my locale values.
I am using a UK keyboard layout. Interestingly under
console the keyboard behaves like a UK keyboard, but
under Xterms, rxvt, uxterm or any other X-application,
it behaves like a US keyboard.
I am using Window Maker.

Regards.
Ajitabh Pandey





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Re: How Do I Get the Java Plugin To Work with Firefox and Mozilla?

[Alejandro Matos]

> On 03 Aug 2004, Kent West wrote:
> > Alejandro Matos wrote:
> > 
> > >>I've installed Java and made a symlink in 
> > >>/usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins to where javaplugin.so is located
> > >>   
> > >>
> > >
> > >Which folder? i think there is 2 folders inside "plugins"...
> > >
> For the current version of firefox you need to link to the 
> ns610-gcc32 version.

Thats exactly what i was saying :o) that is also true for mozilla

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Re: flash and mozilla (and firefox and epiphany)

[Paul Yeatman]

->>In response to your message<<-
  --received from Carl Johnson--
>
> Paul Yeatman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > > Have you tried the '-as' option of esd?  I use 'esd -as 2' to require
> > > esd to release /dev/dsp 2 seconds after it finishes, so other devices
> > > can use it.  That allows me to use programs with both esd and /dev/dsp
> > > output, but not at the same time.
> > 
> > Yes, this is what makes things work for me now and is essentially how
> > I'm running things although I'm currently using the default of 5
> > seconds (if I have any problem with this, I might try a shorter time as
> > you are using).  Thanks for offering the suggestion.
> > 
> > The only bummer with this setup is that not all audio calls (that don't
> > use /dev/dsp directly) starts the esd process automatically.  I don't
> > hear the general Gnome event sounds anymore, for instance, and I'm
> > assuming that this is because esd is no longer running in the
> > background and, apparently, they don't start the esd process on their
> > own.  Some people would likely say "good" to this.  I kinda miss 'em.
> > A very minor complaint.  I'm happier to have Flash working :)
> 
> Something seems to be different about your system, since my esd
> process doesn't exit, but simply closes its connection to /dev/dsp.
> It sounds like you might be using the '-terminate' option.  If you
> are, try it without it, but still with the '-as' option.  Of course,
> just because it satisfies my needs doesn't mean that it will satify
> yours.
> -- 
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> 

Hi, I tried taking "-terminate" out of my esd.conf.  I logged out and
back in.  Indeed esd was started by Gnome (as I have sound for Gnome
enabled) and without the "-terminate" argument but Flash would not play
correctly in a browser until I killed the esd process.  Once I killed
the process, I could play Flash and applications like xmms would start
their own esd process for sound but system/event sounds (from Gnome
and such) could no longer be heard.

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Re: kill process by name

[Miquel van Smoorenburg]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Magnus Therning  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Tue, Aug 03, 2004 at 07:58:02PM +0100, Oliver Elphick wrote:
>>On Tue, 2004-08-03 at 19:29, Muratorio, Diego wrote:
>>> Hello Rick, I am looking for the same, did you find something about
>>> kill process by name?
>>>  
>>
>>You want killall, from the psmisc package.
>
>Or 'pkill'. I've recently fallen in love with it, and it's cousin
>'pgrep'. Both are in the package procps.

Very true. "pkill" will work as expected on other OSes if it is
available. On the other hand, the killall command does something
*very* different on non-Linux OSes.

If you do "killall something" on Solaris as root, the system
goes down. *Hard*. Better not to get used to something dangerous
like that ("killall" should never have been called that under
Linux, but it's way too late to fix that).

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RE: Resize partitions urgent help

[Preston Boyington]

David Baron wrote:

> When I bought a big disk, I put in several Windows paritions and a
> Linux one. No sweat, installed Knoppix and onwards. If I get around
> to dividing Linux things up, I will probably use it again.

I have moved to using QTParted.  It's on the Knoppix cdrom and works very well.  Just 
open a terminal, type "su" and then "qtparted" (no quotes of course).

I like using a LiveCD to repartition my drives, rather than a program that is 
installed on a drive.  It always seemed like trouble waiting to happen when I used a 
program to partition the disk it was running on.

Re: Resize partitions urgent help

[David Baron]

When I put in a second disk in my Windows box and could not get fdisk to work, 
I shelled out the money for ParitionMagic. Does the job--reparitioning is 
scarey, especially when there is already data on the disk.

The program runs under Windows but will reboot to DOS if data must be moved 
(pray nothing goes awry during this stage!), then reboots to Windows. Will do 
everything under GUI if no data needs be moved.

When I bought a big disk, I put in several Windows paritions and a Linux one. 
No sweat, installed Knoppix and onwards. If I get around to dividing Linux 
things up, I will probably use it again.


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Re: /proc/loadavg disagrees with top and ps

[Paul Gear]

Reid Priedhorsky wrote:
> Hello everyone,
> 
> /proc/loadavg currently reports the following:
> 
>   0.96 0.98 0.78 1/116 23994
> 
> xload also reports roughly the same.
> 
> But top and ps both report a nearly idle system (98% idle). What is going
> on? How can I find out what is causing my system to be so busy?

I've seen load averages of 14 and 16 when the CPU usage was on 10%.  The
two are usually, but not necessarily, related.  There are certain types
of work where this behaviour will be seen.  Even low amounts of I/O to a
slow device, if done by enough processes could cause this.

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Re: How Do I Get the Java Plugin To Work with Firefox and Mozilla?

[Kent West]

Scarletdown wrote:
 Anthony Campbell wrote:
On 03 Aug 2004, Kent West wrote:
Alejandro Matos wrote:
I've installed Java and made a symlink in 
/usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins to where javaplugin.so is located 

Which folder? i think there is 2 folders inside "plugins"... Saludos 
Alejandro 

Also, what are the permissions on the Java folder/file? Also, where'd 
you get Java? how'd you install it? 

I installed via apt-get install j2re1.4
Last I knew, Java wasn't free enough to be in the official Debian 
repositories, which indicates you have a non-official source in your apt 
sources.list file.

I'm not saying that's a bad thing; but it indicates another piece of 
info you might want to provide; what's the source of your Java?


And I just now uninstalled it and installed the latest version 
downloaded from Sun, installing it to /usr/share/java/.

Have a look at http://mozilla.weebeastie.net/java.shtml Very useful 
site which explains things clearl. Note that, for firefox (not sure 
about mozilla) the link needs to go in 
/usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/libjavaplugin_oji.so. For the current 
version of firefox you need to link to the ns610-gcc32 version. 

I created the link in /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/ via
ln -s 
/usr/share/java/j2re1.4.2_05/plugin/i386/ns610-gcc32/javaplugin_oji.so
It still doesn't work.  And here is what I get with about:plugins

No sign of the Java plugin at all.

Here's what I do. I download the appropriate bin from blackdown.org 
(although Sun should work fine also).

I then run the file in my home directory as a normal user.
I then move the entire newly created j2sdk1.4.2 directory to /usr/local.
I then change the permissions on the folder:
drwxr-xr-x  8 root  staff  4096 2003-12-17 00:13 j2sdk1.4.2
I do this in two stages; I chown the directory, recursively, to give 
every file root.staff ownership; I then chmod only the directory to the 
above perms.

I then do the symlink:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/westk:> ls -l 
/usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/libjavaplugin_oji.so
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 66 2004-03-01 11:10 
/usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/libjavaplugin_oji.so -> 
/usr/local/j2sdk1.4.2/jre/plugin/i386/mozilla/libjavaplugin_oji.so
hth
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HP all-in-one PSC 1110 USB

[Wolfgang Zocher]

Hi all,

I have lots of problems getting the HP PSC 1110 running under woody 3.0 r2
using kernel 2.4.18-k7. At the very beginning I tried to use hpoj-0.8x from
stable and the corresponding libusb, printer.o etc. (all from stable). But
either printing nor scanning worked; hptal-init setup told me, that there is a
device psc-1110 from vendor HP but there was no way to talk to this device.

So I got the latest hpoj sources and the latest libusb sources, installed all
the stuff - the result is the same.

Then I tried printing with foomatic-rip and hpijs-0.16 and, surprise, it
works. 

My question: is there any body out there who succeeded with installing hpoj AND
printing AND scanning via ptal with woody r2 2.4.18? Is there a chance to get
the scanner working without using hpoj?

Thanks in advance
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arcserve/brightstor

[Patrick Donker]

Hi all,
Just a quick question and yes I already have searched the archives:)
Has anybody managed to successfully port the Linux version (rpm's) of 
arcserve to debian using alien or other means?
I've tried to, but it wasnt very much of a success story.
If it isnt doable, what would be second best to use? I dont want to use 
tar or other nongraphical software as I'm not the only one who has to 
perform the backup.

Thanks
-Patrick
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PHP problems (Warning: session_start(): read returned less bytes than requested)

[Bojan Baros]

Hello Deb-users...

I started having some problems with PHP since the last upgrade, but I am
not sure if it actually caused it.  I primarly use my web server for the
Gallery.  The system is 100% unstable dist.

Anyways, when opening gallery pages, the following error messages are
displayed on the top of the screen:


Warning: session_start(): read returned less bytes than requested in
/usr/share/gallery/session.php on line 60

Warning: session_start(): Cannot send session cookie - headers already
sent by (output started at /usr/share/gallery/session.php:60) in
/usr/share/gallery/session.php on line 60

Warning: session_start(): Cannot send session cache limiter - headers
already sent (output started at /usr/share/gallery/session.php:60) in
/usr/share/gallery/session.php on line 60


2nd and 3rd error messages are caused by the first one.

My setup is as follows:
Linux 2.4.21 #1 Thu Aug 7 18:10:47 EDT 2003 sparc GNU/Linux
php4 - 4:4.3.8-3
apache - 1.3.31-3
gallery - 1.4.4-1

In order to resolve this issue, I tried installing the php4 and gallery
from testing, but the problem remained.  I then downgraded apache to
testing as well (1.3.31-2), still no luck.

The session files are stored in /tmp (with appropriate permissions), and I
can see them being created.

The diagnostic page on the gallery shows that the session is created, but
when I refresh, the page view count does not update.  I have tried both
Firefox and IE6, but no luck, even with all the cookie management off..

I spent a lot of time looking around, but I could not figure it out.  Any
pointers?


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Re: kill process by name

[Magnus Therning]

On Tue, Aug 03, 2004 at 07:58:02PM +0100, Oliver Elphick wrote:
>On Tue, 2004-08-03 at 19:29, Muratorio, Diego wrote:
>> Hello Rick, I am looking for the same, did you find something about
>> kill process by name?
>>  
>
>You want killall, from the psmisc package.

Or 'pkill'. I've recently fallen in love with it, and it's cousin
'pgrep'. Both are in the package procps.

/M

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Re: libxine1 or xserver-xfree86 bug? (Was: on sarge xine crashes X)

[Faithful John]

 --- Fabio Marzocca <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> I have the same problem (X crashes on xine.) If I
> run xine -V XShm it works
> fine, so the problem is related to XVideo of my ATI
> Rage Pro card. XFree86
> 4.3 ATI driver does not support XVideo. I should try
> installing gatos
> drivers, but it could be a mess when XFree
> updates...


I like the rest of you have had that problem with
xine.   However, i don't think it's limited to xine, I
think it's X.   It happened right after I 'apt-get
upgrad'ed sarge june 30th (i've only recently gotten
the hang of this list).   This problem happens with
any mpeg or avi file with xine, xmovie, VLC programs. 
 X restarts as soon as the file plays.   I initially
thought it was just xmovie, so I installed xine, and i
found that just opening xine  restarted X.   Versus,
playing the file on xmovie or VLC.   My roomate has
the same problem.


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Re: How Do I Get the Java Plugin To Work with Firefox and Mozilla?

[Nate Bargmann]

* Scarletdown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004 Aug 03 15:18 -0500]:
>  Anthony Campbell wrote:
> 
> >On 03 Aug 2004, Kent West wrote:
> >
> >>Alejandro Matos wrote:
> >>
> I've installed Java and made a symlink in 
> /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins to where javaplugin.so is located 
> >>>
> >>>Which folder? i think there is 2 folders inside "plugins"... Saludos 
> >>>Alejandro 
> >>
> >>Also, what are the permissions on the Java folder/file? Also, where'd 
> >>you get Java? how'd you install it? 
> >
> 
> I installed via apt-get install j2re1.4
> 
> And I just now uninstalled it and installed the latest version 
> downloaded from Sun, installing it to /usr/share/java/.



> No sign of the Java plugin at all.

If you don't have the X development packages installed, you will need
to make some symlinks:

lrwxrwxrwx  1 root staff 27 2004-07-08 11:01 /usr/local/lib/libXext.so -> 
/usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root staff 25 2004-07-08 11:01 /usr/local/lib/libXt.so -> 
/usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6

Then run ldconfig.  At least, this is what I've had to do for many
years going back to the M18 days as the shortened file names only exist
in Debian when the X development packages are installed.

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Re: How Do I Get the Java Plugin To Work with Firefox and Mozilla?

[Scarletdown]

 Anthony Campbell wrote:
On 03 Aug 2004, Kent West wrote:
Alejandro Matos wrote:
I've installed Java and made a symlink in 
/usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins to where javaplugin.so is located 
Which folder? i think there is 2 folders inside "plugins"... Saludos 
Alejandro 
Also, what are the permissions on the Java folder/file? Also, where'd 
you get Java? how'd you install it? 

I installed via apt-get install j2re1.4
And I just now uninstalled it and installed the latest version 
downloaded from Sun, installing it to /usr/share/java/.

Have a look at http://mozilla.weebeastie.net/java.shtml Very useful 
site which explains things clearl. Note that, for firefox (not sure 
about mozilla) the link needs to go in 
/usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/libjavaplugin_oji.so. For the current 
version of firefox you need to link to the ns610-gcc32 version. 
I created the link in /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/ via
ln -s /usr/share/java/j2re1.4.2_05/plugin/i386/ns610-gcc32/javaplugin_oji.so
It still doesn't work.  And here is what I get with about:plugins
Installed plug-ins
Find more information about browser plug-ins at Netscape.com
.
Help for installing plug-ins is available from plugindoc.mozdev.org
.

Shockwave Flash
   File name: libflashplayer.so
   Shockwave Flash 7.0 r25
MIME Type   Description SuffixesEnabled
application/x-shockwave-flash   Shockwave Flash swf Yes
application/futuresplashFutureSplash Player spl Yes
Default Plugin
   File name: libnullplugin.so
   The default plugin handles plugin data for mimetypes and extensions
   that are not specified and facilitates downloading of new plugins.
MIME Type   Description SuffixesEnabled
*   All types   .*  Yes
MozPlugger 1.6.0
   File name: mozplugger.so
   MozPlugger version 1.6.0, written by Fredrik Hübinette
    <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
    and Louis Bavoil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   .
   For documentation on how to configure mozplugger, check the man
   page. (type man mozplugger)
   Configuration file:  /etc/mozpluggerrc
   Helper binary:   mozplugger-helper
   Controller binary:   mozplugger-controller
MIME Type   Description SuffixesEnabled
audio/mid   MIDI audio file midi,midYes
audio/x-mid MIDI audio file midi,midYes
audio/midi  MIDI audio file midi,midYes
audio/x-midiMIDI audio file midi,midYes
audio/mp3   MPEG audio  mp3 Yes
audio/x-mp3 MPEG audio  mp3 Yes
audio/mpeg2 MPEG audio  mp2 Yes
audio/x-mpeg2   MPEG audio  mp2 Yes
audio/mpeg3 MPEG audio  mp3 Yes
audio/x-mpeg3   MPEG audio  mp3 Yes
audio/mpeg  MPEG audio  mpa,abs,mpega   Yes
audio/x-mpegMPEG audio  mpa,abs,mpega   Yes
audio/mpeg-url  MPEG music resource locator m3u Yes
audio/x-mpeg-urlMPEG music resource locator m3u Yes
audio/mpegurl   MPEG music resource locator m3u Yes
audio/x-mpegurl MPEG music resource locator m3u Yes
audio/mpeg-url  MPEG music resource locator m3u Yes
audio/x-mpeg-urlMPEG music resource locator m3u Yes
audio/x-scpls   Shoutcast Playlists pls Yes
audio/x-ogg OGG audio   ogg Yes
application/x-ogg   OGG audio   ogg Yes
application/ogg OGG audio   ogg Yes
audio/basic Basic audio fileau,snd  Yes
audio/x-basic   Basic audio fileau,snd  Yes
audio/wav   Microsoft wave file wav Yes
audio/x-wav Microsoft wave file wav Yes
audio/x-pn-wav  Microsoft wave file wav Yes
audio/x-pn-windows-acm  Microsoft wave file wav Yes
image/sun-rasterSUN raster imagers  Yes
image/x-sun-raster  SUN raster imagers  Yes
image/x-rgb RGB Image   rgb Yes
image/x-portable-pixmap PPM Image   ppm Yes
image/x-portable-graymapPGM Image   pgm Yes
image/x-portable-bitmap PBM Image   pbm Yes
image/x-portable-anymap PBM Image   pnm Yes
image/tiff  TIFF image  tiff,tifYes
image/x-tiffTIFF image  tiff,tifYes
application/pdf PDF filepdf Yes
application/x-pdf   PDF filepdf Yes
text/pdfPDF filepdf Yes
text/x-pdf  PDF filepdf Yes
application/x-dvi   DVI filedvi Yes
application/x-postscriptPostScript file ps  Yes
application/postscript  PostScript file ps  Yes
application/x-rtf   Rich Text Formatrtf Yes
application/rtf Rich Text Formatrtf Yes
text/rtfRich Text Formatrtf 

Re: discover ignores skip line?

[Stefaan]

So apparantly discover has nothing to do with this ... *sigh*
Reconfigured hotplug to ignore pci display devices... now it seems
to work.

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RE: kill process by name

[Muratorio, Diego]

Title: Message



thanks 
to every vody to Your Help

  
  -Original Message-From: Doug Wiltanger 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Martes, 03 de Agosto de 2004 
  04:22 p.m.To: Muratorio, Diego; 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Cc: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: kill process by 
  name
  KILLALL(1)    
  User 
  Commands   
  KILLALL(1)
   
  NAME   
  killall - kill processes by name
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Muratorio, Diego 
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' 

Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' 

Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 2:29 
PM
Subject: Re: kill process by name

Hello Rick, I am 
looking for the same, did you find something about kill process by 
name?
 
Thanks in 
advance

Muratorio DiegoNetwork AdministratorTel:4131-7000 
Int.4152Btme. Mitre 853 1° st Floor[EMAIL PROTECTED]

kill process by name



  To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" 
  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 

  Subject: kill process by name 
  From: Rick Weinbender <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 

  Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 13:47:38 -0600 
  Message-id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 

  Old-return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 

Is there a way to use the kill command
to kill a process by name?
*
For example:  kill inetd
I have to look up the pid number every time
using 'ps aux' then I can kill it with 'kill pid#'

Thanks,
-Rick

Re: kill process by name

[Doug Wiltanger]

Title: Message



KILLALL(1)    
User 
Commands   
KILLALL(1)
 
NAME   
killall - kill processes by name

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Muratorio, Diego 
  To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' 
  
  Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 2:29 
  PM
  Subject: Re: kill process by name
  
  Hello Rick, I am 
  looking for the same, did you find something about kill process by 
  name?
   
  Thanks in 
  advance
  
  Muratorio DiegoNetwork AdministratorTel:4131-7000 Int.4152Btme. 
  Mitre 853 1° st Floor[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  kill process by name
  

  
To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 

Subject: kill process by name 
From: Rick Weinbender <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 13:47:38 -0600 
Message-id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 

Old-return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
  
Is there a way to use the kill command
to kill a process by name?
*
For example:  kill inetd
I have to look up the pid number every time
using 'ps aux' then I can kill it with 'kill pid#'

Thanks,
-Rick

help

[lander3]

right margin need help setting saame
 

Re: Exim4 + ClamAV + Some Virii get through

[Paul Johnson]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Alan Chandler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Actually you can go further than that here is a sample from my config
> file (I have recombined into a single exim4.conf file) Not only can
> you reject malformed mime, you can reject certain attachments and call
> the virus scanner.  The TEERGRUB conditions add 5 second delays
> (TEERGRUB is set to 5) on these messages to slow any potential spammer
> down by holding his connection for a short period of time.

Only 5?  I'd go more like 30 or 60 if I were teergrubing.
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Re: kill process by name

[Tom Furie]

On Tue, Aug 03, 2004 at 07:58:02PM +0100, Oliver Elphick wrote:
> On Tue, 2004-08-03 at 19:29, Muratorio, Diego wrote:
> > Hello Rick, I am looking for the same, did you find something about
> > kill process by name?
> >  
> 
> You want killall, from the psmisc package.

Or, another option is kill `pidof `.

Cheers,
Tom

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Re: Resize partitions urgent help

[Alan Chandler]

On Tuesday 03 August 2004 16:45, Vijaya S wrote:
> thanks a lot ,
> But my main problem is i havent used parted anytime
> And moreover /debian is important i will take a backup of it how do i use
> parted to do that?
> Regards,
> Vijaya

Parted is very simple to use, and can tell you its commands with the help 
command.  It can copy partitions, but /debian is 19G so where are you going 
to back it up to?  If you can do that, the you could easily grow things.

The best thing to do is load the stand alone version of the gnu web site, 
which should be here

http://www.gnu.org/software/parted/parted.html

although it s timing out at the moment so I can check

You must not be accessing the filesystems with anything else whilst it is 
working.  I think you can shrink your /dev/hda8 partition and then grow 
the /dev/hda7 parttion with the RESIZE command.  Check the man page for what 
filesystems it will do this with.

In future take a look at LVM.  This allows much easier growing, shrinking and 
even extending over multiple devices a partition.  As hinted at by others in 
this thread reiserfs is a good filesystem to use.  I like to use reiserfs 
because it allows you to grow filesystems (assuming you have already made the 
partition bigger - with lvm that is a simple lvextend command) without 
dismounting it.  You can shrink them too - but only when dismounted.




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Re: Exim4 + ClamAV + Some Virii get through

[Paul Johnson]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

David Purton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I have a question about virus scanning at smtp time. Sadly I still
> find Exim4 acl stuff a bit of a black art :(
>
> Sometimes a virus that clamav *does* already know about gets through.

That's usually a new virus.

> I'm figuring that this virus (in this case Worm.MyDoom.M) has
> deliberately broken it's mime encoding and Exim has been unable to
> extract the file to pass to ClamAV. Does this sound right?

ClamAV might not know about it, yet.  See ClamAV's website to find out
how you can add the signature.

> deny message = This message contains malformed MIME ($demime_reason)
>   demime = *
>   condition = ${if >{$demime_errorlevel}{2}{1}{0}}
>
>
> If I understand this correctly, then it will deny any message with
> broken mime encoding.
>
> 1. Will this help in my above situation?

Possibly.  Try it and see?  Let us know what it does for you.

> 2. Is this likely to mean that some legitimate email from say a well
> known mail client will be rejected? (This is a business mail server,
> so I need to be sure we aren't rejecting legit mail)

Well, if anybody, anywhere is running a Microsoft MUA, then this is
always a possibility whenever you try to enforce the RFCs.

> If this is indeed useful, maybe Paul could add it to hs "Rejecting
> Email Viruses the Right Way" page?

Sure.

> Also you could add the rejecting of all messages containing dodgy
> windows execuatable extension too IMO.

I prefer to actually find out if something really is hostile before I
judge it.  Err on the side of accepting it anyway if you need to make a
judgement call, or you're bound to miss legitimate mail along the line.
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Re: kill process by name

[Oliver Elphick]

On Tue, 2004-08-03 at 19:29, Muratorio, Diego wrote:
> Hello Rick, I am looking for the same, did you find something about
> kill process by name?
>  

You want killall, from the psmisc package.

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  does not boast, it is not proud. It is not rude, it is
  not self seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps
  no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but
  rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always
  trusts, always hopes, always perseveres." 
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Re: [Solved] apache and php scripts

[Harland Christofferson]

At Tuesday, 3 August 2004, "Monique Y. Mudama" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
org> wrote:

*snip*

>Interest.  Where did you get your httpd.conf from?  I have the following
>in my httpd.conf:
>
>Include /etc/apache/modules.conf
>
>Granted, my apache configuration has been ported from machine to 
machine
>for several years, and started out on RedHat, but it looks like Debian
>expects that line to be there, too.  Maybe adding it will make your 
life
>easier in the future?
>
>-- 
>monique
>
>

huh ... mine does not have this line ... i will put it near the top 
of httpd.conf. 

thanks












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Re: kill process by name

[Muratorio, Diego]

Title: Message



Hello Rick, I am 
looking for the same, did you find something about kill process by 
name?
 
Thanks in 
advance

Muratorio DiegoNetwork AdministratorTel:4131-7000 Int.4152Btme. 
Mitre 853 1° st Floor[EMAIL PROTECTED]

kill process by name



  To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" 
  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 

  Subject: kill process by name 
  From: Rick Weinbender <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
  Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 13:47:38 -0600 
  Message-id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 

  Old-return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 

Is there a way to use the kill command
to kill a process by name?
*
For example:  kill inetd
I have to look up the pid number every time
using 'ps aux' then I can kill it with 'kill pid#'

Thanks,
-Rick

Re: Exim4 + ClamAV + Some Virii get through

[Alan Chandler]

On Tuesday 03 August 2004 08:12, David Purton wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 03, 2004 at 07:27:39AM +0100, Alan Chandler wrote:
> > On Tuesday 03 August 2004 02:25, David Purton wrote:
> > ...
> >
> > > It offers these lines, which might help in
> > > /etc/exim4/conf.d/acl/40_exim4-config_check_data:
> > >
> > >
> > > deny message = This message contains malformed MIME ($demime_reason)
> > >   demime = *
> > >   condition = ${if >{$demime_errorlevel}{2}{1}{0}}
> >
> > This needs exim4-heavy to be installed which includes a patch to connect
> > to virus checkers.
> >
> > You also need
>
> 
>
> Yeah - this is all fine - sorry perhaps my original email was not clear.
> It all works fine - Normally Virus block and spam blocking occurs
> without a hitch.
>
> It's only on these special occasions where exim seems unable to properly
> extract the Virus to pass to clamav due to what I assume is deliberate
> breaking of the way the Virus is attached.
>
> So my question is will the above rule block this sort of message
> and will it block any legitimate messages?

At this point in the processing of the DATA ACL the deny rule kicks in and no 
more of the ACL should be processed.  The call to clamav in the ruleset I 
attached was after this point, and so it should not be called for this 
message.  Instead at this point exim creates the bounce message to send and 
stops further attempt at receiving this one.




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Re: [Solved] apache and php scripts

[Monique Y. Mudama]

On 2004-08-03, Harland Christofferson penned:
> At Tuesday, 3 August 2004, "Monique Y. Mudama" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> org> wrote:
>
> *snip*
>>
>>Do you have the following line in any of the files in /etc/apache ?
>>
>>LoadModule php4_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/libphp4.so
>>
>>-- 
>>monique
>>
>
> turns out this was exactly the problem. 
> LoadModule php4_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/libphp4.so
> is in modules.conf but not httpd.conf. i added it and all is right 
> in the world. thanks!

Interest.  Where did you get your httpd.conf from?  I have the following
in my httpd.conf:

Include /etc/apache/modules.conf

Granted, my apache configuration has been ported from machine to machine
for several years, and started out on RedHat, but it looks like Debian
expects that line to be there, too.  Maybe adding it will make your life
easier in the future?

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Re: /proc/loadavg disagrees with top and ps

[Edvard Majakari]

John Summerfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>>As such, load averages below 1 mean system doesn't have any processes
>>(except perhaps the one being run) waiting to be served.
>>
>>
>>
> I believe it includes the one running.
> .96 is very far from idle.

Yes, that's why I put the "(except perhaps the one being run)" part. Sorry
for the misleading statement. Shouldn't write stuff before actually waking
up..

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Re: root file system has unknown type

[Wim De Smet]

On Tue, 3 Aug 2004 00:42:26 -0700, Marc Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 03, 2004 at 06:12:45AM +0300, Micha Feigin wrote:
> > Anyone knows whats causing the root file system to be displayed as
> > unknown and whether this is scheduled to be fixed at some point in the
> > future?
> 
> Sure.  Bug #255849 on initscripts.  Can't anyone check the BTS anymore?
> The original bug was reported back in June, after all.
> 

And how would somebody know that it is a bug in initscripts? I would
check the mount bugs (actually I had it and I didn't but I was lazy
that day) and not find the bug and think it's something local.

Of course you could try some sort of search on description but that's
time consuming and usually fruitless.

2 cents,
Wim


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Re: sql-ledger and postgresql: HOWTO?

[bob parker]

On Wed, 4 Aug 2004 00:10, Oliver Elphick wrote:
> On Tue, 2004-08-03 at 13:52, John Hasler wrote:
> > Oliver Elphick writes:
> > > I have written an accounting system in the past and now I have looked
> > > at sql-ledger I prefer to do the same again, since it doesn't suit my
> > > ideas of what such a system should be like.
> >
> > Any chance that you will package it?  Or let someone else do so?  I'm not
> > pleased with sql-ledger either, but I like the alternatives even less.
>
> Once it is written, yes.  If you would like to list features you would
> like to see, that could be helpful.  There really needs to be a good
> free accounting package, but it has to cope with all kinds of things to
> be a good internationalised package, and I probably haven't even
> imagined some of them.
>
> The old one was written (in BASIC) for UniVerse, which is proprietary.
> The code is currently stuck on an HP-UX machine to which I have lost the
> passwords.

Are we talking about a web page interface here? Say Pg + Php?
If so I have the beginnings of a payroll module I could contribute.
It's built to ato rules of PAYE for dotAU but maybe there's enough in common 
to suit other places.

Bob Parker


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Re: ALSA setup problem

[Kenneth Jacker]

  jh> You should *not* load the emu10k1 module (that's OSS, not ALSA)
  jh> - instead, you need the snd_emu10k1 module (notice ALSA modules
  jh> have the snd_ prefix)

Thanks to Chris, Joris and others, I have succeeded in getting ALSA
working on my 'sarge' system!

The main problem was using the OSS modules instead of the ASLA ones.

Thanks again ...

  -Kenneth


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Re: sql-ledger and postgresql: HOWTO?

[Oliver Elphick]

On Tue, 2004-08-03 at 18:09, bob parker wrote:
> > > Any chance that you will package it?  Or let someone else do so?  I'm not
> > > pleased with sql-ledger either, but I like the alternatives even less.
> >
> > Once it is written, yes.  If you would like to list features you would
> > like to see, that could be helpful.  There really needs to be a good
> > free accounting package, but it has to cope with all kinds of things to
> > be a good internationalised package, and I probably haven't even
> > imagined some of them.

> Are we talking about a web page interface here? Say Pg + Php?
> If so I have the beginnings of a payroll module I could contribute.
> It's built to ato rules of PAYE for dotAU but maybe there's enough in common 
> to suit other places.

I'm not all that keen on web interfaces; as far as I can see, from my
limited and reluctant experience of writing them, the programming
languages are poor and debugging is a nightmare.  I was thinking on the
lines of glade + Python or Eiffel.  However the underlying database
structure should be the same, and I would insist on putting all the
consistency rules into the database (triggers, foreign keys, etc.) so
you could possibly have two different interfaces to the same database.

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  not self seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps
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  rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always
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Re: /proc/loadavg disagrees with top and ps

[Nate Duehr]

On Aug 3, 2004, at 11:12 AM, John Summerfield wrote:
I/I activity can push the load average up too: a high load average 
does not mean the CPU is busy, though it often is.
Is that a typo John, I think you meant "I/O" as in input/output... 
correct?

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Re: Adaptec AIC7901

[Matthew Walkup]

John,

I tried debian-boot, but I cant find a bootfloppies mailing list.
I have not received a reply from anyone in 2 days on debian-boot so I
thought I'd try here. ;(

Thanks anyways,

Matt

On Wed, 04 Aug 2004 00:50:33 +0800, John Summerfield
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Matthew Walkup wrote:
> 
> >List,
> >
> >I have an Adaptec AIC7901 [1] on my Intel SE7210TP1-E [2] and I have
> >been unable to install debian sarge via the cd minimal installation
> >disk (/sarge_d-i/i386/beta4/).
> >
> >
> >
> You will get better help on bootfloppies, where the d-i team hangs out.
> 
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> Cheers
> John
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Re: /proc/loadavg disagrees with top and ps

[John Summerfield]

Edvard Majakari wrote:
Reid Priedhorsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
 

/proc/loadavg currently reports the following:
 0.96 0.98 0.78 1/116 23994
xload also reports roughly the same.
But top and ps both report a nearly idle system (98% idle). What is going
on? How can I find out what is causing my system to be so busy?
   

Umm.. your system doesn't seem busy to me. IIRC, those load averages represent
the average number of processes waiting to be served for 1, 5 and 15
minutes. Thus load averages of 3.5, 2.3 and 0.97 would indicate heavy
increase in load during the last 15 minutes, and that at the moment 3.5
processes in average wait for the kernel scheduler to give them some
processing time.
As such, load averages below 1 mean system doesn't have any processes
(except perhaps the one being run) waiting to be served.
 

I believe it includes the one running.
.96 is very far from idle.
Here us an idle machine:
Numbat:~# cat /proc/loadavg ;uptime
0.00 0.00 0.00 2/37 2808
01:11:05 up 1 day, 10:07,  2 users,  load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
Numbat:~#
I/I activity can push the load average up too: a high load average does 
not mean the CPU is busy, though it often is.

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Re: /proc/loadavg disagrees with top and ps

[Edvard Majakari]

Reid Priedhorsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> /proc/loadavg currently reports the following:
>
>   0.96 0.98 0.78 1/116 23994
>
> xload also reports roughly the same.
>
> But top and ps both report a nearly idle system (98% idle). What is going
> on? How can I find out what is causing my system to be so busy?

Umm.. your system doesn't seem busy to me. IIRC, those load averages represent
the average number of processes waiting to be served for 1, 5 and 15
minutes. Thus load averages of 3.5, 2.3 and 0.97 would indicate heavy
increase in load during the last 15 minutes, and that at the moment 3.5
processes in average wait for the kernel scheduler to give them some
processing time.

As such, load averages below 1 mean system doesn't have any processes
(except perhaps the one being run) waiting to be served.

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Re: Installing Sarge

[Ricky Clarkson]

I would guess that either both CDROMs are faulty (unlikely) or that
the machine's RAM or hard drive are faulty (more likely).  You can
test both, but I don't know how.

On Tue, 3 Aug 2004 11:37:13 -0500, C. Tresenriter
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> I'm trying to get Sarge installed on an ASUS A7V8X-MX SE
> 
> I've just used the CD to install on another machine with no
> problems.
> 
> After choosing the install type, it begins uncompressing then halts
> with crc error.
> 
> I've tried another CDROM with the same results.
> 
> Has anyone run into this - or have an idea what might be happening?
> 
> TIA
> Curt
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Re: Get list of all installed packages from Testing

[Alexander Schmehl]

* Jacob Friis Larsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [040803 18:33]:

> How can I get a list of all installed packages from the Testing release 
> of Debian?

dpkg --get-selections

If you want a list of removed packages, too, add a \*.


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Re: Postfix-2.1.3-1 query

[John Summerfield]

Ishwar Rattan wrote:
I just installed postfix using apt-get install postfix.
1. Does it by default acts as open relay?
 

No
2. How can I make sure that smtp is not doing open relay?
 

Either check out the anti-spam sites - they will check for you, -t 
google for what you want.

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[Solved] apache and php scripts

[Harland Christofferson]

At Tuesday, 3 August 2004, "Monique Y. Mudama" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
org> wrote:

*snip*
>
>Do you have the following line in any of the files in /etc/apache ?
>
>LoadModule php4_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/libphp4.so
>
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turns out this was exactly the problem. 
LoadModule php4_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/libphp4.so
is in modules.conf but not httpd.conf. i added it and all is right 
in the world. thanks!











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Re: Adaptec AIC7901

[John Summerfield]

Matthew Walkup wrote:
List,
I have an Adaptec AIC7901 [1] on my Intel SE7210TP1-E [2] and I have
been unable to install debian sarge via the cd minimal installation
disk (/sarge_d-i/i386/beta4/).
 

You will get better help on bootfloppies, where the d-i team hangs out.

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Re: How Do I Get the Java Plugin To Work with Firefox and Mozilla?

[Sarunas Burdulis]

Scarletdown wrote:
I've installed Java and made a symlink in 
/usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins to where javaplugin.so is located,
but whenever I try to access a dite that uses Java (such as the
EZ-Board chat feature), I get "This page contains information of a
type (application/x-java-vm) that can only be viewed with the
appropriate plugin.

So even though I have the plugin installed, it doesn't seem to work
with Mozilla or Firefox.  However, it works fine with Konqueror.
What else do I need to do to get Moz to work with Java?
Is Java plugin listed if you navigate to 'about:plugins'?
This is what I have in /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox and it works (note the
'/ns610-gcc32' part):
libjavaplugin_oji.so ->
/usr/local/j2re1.4.2_05/plugin/i386/ns610-gcc32/libjavaplugin_oji.so
Sarunas
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Installing Sarge

[C. Tresenriter]

I'm trying to get Sarge installed on an ASUS A7V8X-MX SE

I've just used the CD to install on another machine with no
problems.

After choosing the install type, it begins uncompressing then halts
with crc error.

I've tried another CDROM with the same results.

Has anyone run into this - or have an idea what might be happening?

TIA
Curt


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Get list of all installed packages from Testing

[Jacob Friis Larsen]

Hello.
How can I get a list of all installed packages from the Testing release 
of Debian?

Thanks,
Jacob
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Re: How Do I Get the Java Plugin To Work with Firefox and Mozilla?

[Anthony Campbell]

On 03 Aug 2004, Kent West wrote:
> Alejandro Matos wrote:
> 
> >>I've installed Java and made a symlink in 
> >>/usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins to where javaplugin.so is located
> >>   
> >>
> >
> >Which folder? i think there is 2 folders inside "plugins"...
> >
> >Saludos 
> >
> >Alejandro
> >
> > 
> >
> Also, what are the permissions on the Java folder/file?
> 
> Also, where'd you get Java? how'd you install it?
> 
> -- 
> Kent

Have a look at http://mozilla.weebeastie.net/java.shtml

Very useful site which explains things clearl.

Note that, for firefox (not sure about mozilla) the link needs to go in
/usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/libjavaplugin_oji.so.

For the current version of firefox you need to link to the 
ns610-gcc32 version.

Anthony


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Re: Installing a new hard drive

[Zachary Rizer]

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> I got a new hard drive that I did a an additional
> drive.  The bios 
> recognizes the drive.  So I figured the next step is
> to use fdisk and 
> create partitions, but it did not work.  Here is
> what I did.
> 
> login as: root
> Password:
> Last login: Tue Aug  3 02:17:17 2004
> [s1]:~ # fdisk /dev/hdc
> 
> Unable to open /dev/hdc
> [s1]:~ #
> 
> This is the master on the secondary controller.  I
> tried running an 
> installation disk and it recognized it no problem. 
> What steps am I 
> missing to get this to work.
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What does "dmesg | grep hdc" provide?


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Re: Installing a new hard drive

[Ricky Clarkson]

I'd suggest looking at dmesg for lines like the following:

hda: Maxtor 6E040L0, ATA DISK drive
hdd: IOMEGA ZIP 100 ATAPI, ATAPI FLOPPY drive

or whatever your hardware is.  If it's not there, Linux hasn't recognised it.

If it is there, check that it actually is hdc, it could have been
given a different device node.

When you say you tried running an installation disk, could you give
more details?  Linux installation?  Distro?  Kernel version?  What
device did it recognise it as?

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<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I got a new hard drive that I did a an additional drive.  The bios
> recognizes the drive.  So I figured the next step is to use fdisk and
> create partitions, but it did not work.  Here is what I did.
> 
> login as: root
> Password:
> Last login: Tue Aug  3 02:17:17 2004
> [s1]:~ # fdisk /dev/hdc
> 
> Unable to open /dev/hdc
> [s1]:~ #
> 
> This is the master on the secondary controller.  I tried running an
> installation disk and it recognized it no problem.  What steps am I
> missing to get this to work.
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Adaptec AIC7901

[Matthew Walkup]

List,

I have an Adaptec AIC7901 [1] on my Intel SE7210TP1-E [2] and I have
been unable to install debian sarge via the cd minimal installation
disk (/sarge_d-i/i386/beta4/).

I also have attempted it on the daily image of: 20040801.

It does not auto detect the hardware on installation and an insmod on
any of the aic7*.o modules also dont work (if I can remember correctly
aic7xxx.o, aic79xx.o, and aic7xxx_old.o).  They all return: No Such
Device.

I noticed on the lists (french debian user), another user was having
problems [3].  I dont know french, and using babel fish [4] I
attempted to figure out if there was a solution, and I could not find
one at all.  Any suggestions or points in the right direction would be
greatly appreciated.  If this is the wrong list, please let me know
where I should post this issue.

TYIA,

Matt

References:
1: 
http://adaptec.com/worldwide/product/markeditorial.html?sess=no&language=English+US&prodkey=ultra320_aic7901
2: http://www.intel.com/support/motherboards/server/se7210tp1-e/
3: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user-french/2003/11/msg00591.html
4: 
http://babel.altavista.com/babelfish/trurl_pagecontent?lp=fr_en&url=http%3a%2f%2flists.debian.org%2fdebian-user-french%2f2003%2f11%2fmsg00526.html


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Re: I hate it when that happens...

[Juha Siltala]

On 2004-08-03, Silvan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I don't really care.  I'm not getting graded on how good my HTML looks.

That's right! Screw them markup police! :)

[On OpenOffice.org file format]

> It's a far cry from human-readable though.  Ever looked at one?

I have rescued some text from an OO.o file, but the document was very 
simple. I guess that when OO.o is dead and archeologists in the year 2500, 
they will have an advanced bash script to get the text out. :)

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