Cd-rw
Oi pessoal, sou novo na lista, por isso me desculpem se o meu post já tiver sido respondido, tá? Seguinte, fiz o upgrade do meu kernel 2.4.x para o 2.6.7. Tinha o meu cdrw (/dev/hdc) configurado como ide-scsi para poder gravar minhas mídias. Fiquei sabendo que apartir no kernel 2.6.x já não é mais necessário utilizar o módulo ide-scsi, já que o suporte aos drives de cdr/cdrw já é nativo nesta série. Porém ainda não consegui fazer meu drive funcionar como gravador. Alguém tem a solução para este problema, ou, pelo menos, o caminho a se seguir? Andei pesquisando no google e não encontrei nenhuma solução até o momento. Agradeço qualquer ajuda! Abraço a todos -- Gustavo Pardellas Feijó [EMAIL PROTECTED] icq # 157322283 -- | Microsoft's butterfly | |is their way off telling| |you their systems have a| |[EMAIL PROTECTED] lot of buggs. | --
Re: gcc não tá rolando... de novo
Tente instalar o build-essential. Em Seg, 2004-09-20 às 19:27, Danilo Balarini escreveu: oi lista Gente, o gcc nunca dá certo quando eu preciso. Estou tentando compilar o lufs(para poder acessar outras partições, preciso mesmo) e ele me retorna o seguinte erro quando eu dou o ./configure : supserservidor://root/firefox-downloads/lufs-0.9.7# ./configure checking build system type... i686-pc-linux-gnulibc1 checking host system type... i686-pc-linux-gnulibc1 checking target system type... i686-pc-linux-gnulibc1 checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c checking whether build environment is sane... yes checking for gawk... gawk checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... yes checking OS... Linux checking kernel... 2.4.26-1-386 checking kernel support... supported in kernel/Linux/2.4 checking kernel headers... found in /lib/modules/2.4.26-1-386/build/include checking kernel configuration... found, using modversions checking modversions.h... /lib/modules/2.4.26-1-386/build/include/config/modversions.h checking for gcc... gcc checking for C compiler default output... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables See `config.log' for more details. Mas acontece que eu abro o config.log e não encontro nada do tipo você deve fazer isso para resolver seu problema Sou um pouco leigo nesse assunto... alguma idéia do que seja ? Valeu gente ! _ MSN Messenger: converse com os seus amigos online. http://messenger.msn.com.br -- []'s marcot mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ:50599075 MSN:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.dcc.ufmg.br/~marcot/ A crocrância é fundamental para quem quer ser fundamental. Bizarro da Silva e marcot Estou cansado de ser obrigado a cumprir o ritual burocrático exigido aos cidadãos brasileiros a cada eleição, de dois em dois anos. E ainda tenho que me contentar com um custo de pelos menos R$ 500.000 por político a cada mandato? Diga não a essa covardia, VOTE NULO! Copie este texto para assinar sua mensagem também.
Re: Pau no X
Cara, tenta baixar o driver da sua placa de vídeo do site do fabricante, de repente resolve!!! Abraços _ MSN Messenger: converse com os seus amigos online. http://messenger.msn.com.br
Re: dead-letter ao fechar o mutt
No dia 20/09/2004 às 20:17, Leandro Ferreira [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: De uns tempos para cá, tipo, nas últimas 2 semanas, tenho notado que sempre que fecho o mutt ele grava um arquivo dead.letter no $HOME. É apenas um arquivo vazio. E isso acontece quando fecho normalmente o mutt (não acontecia antes). Alguém sabe o motivo? Não mudei absolutamente nada na configuração do mutt. A não ser as atualizações apt-get dist-upgrade, mas nem lembro se isso atualizou o mutt. Atualizo todos os sábados. Acontece com mais alguém? Comigo não acontece isso. Mutt 1.5.6+20040818i -- Douglas Augusto [Netiqueta] § Cortar linhas no máximo na 80ª coluna.
Fw: modprobe slamr
Saudaçõesà todos Quando instalei esse modulo no Woody rc2, usei apenas os comando #make e #make install, depois inclui o meu usuário no grupo dip, para poder conectar. Tinha o mesmo erro, já que ele instalou os módulos em uma pasta diferente da que continhaos módulos, foi só movê-los para a pasta certae resolvi o problema mas, corrijam-me se estiver errado, o Kernel deve estar precompilado (rodar o #make) coisa que fiz, durante a minha briga com omoduloda Nvidia. Para utilizar é so rodar o comando # /usr/sbin/slmodemd --country=br /dev/slamr0 e criar o link simbólico para /dev/modem. Aqui funcionou tranquilamente, mas usei a versão 2.9.9 e kernel era da série 2.4 By Phibos - Original Message - From: Bruno Monteiro To: debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org Sent: Monday, September 20, 2004 1:11 AM Subject: modprobe slamr Galera, preciso de ajuda para instalar um modem hsp56mr no conectiva 10. Jà seguir os passos indicados em um artigo da net, que vai no final, mas estou tendo problemas. corta
Re: gcc não tá rolando... de novo
Esse erro geralmente ocorre quando faltam as bibliotecas de desenvolvimento. Você provavelmente só tem instaladas as bibliotecas de runtime. Verifique a versão da libc instalada: apt-cache search libc. Depois instale o pacote de desenvolvimento: apt-get install libc6-dev (no meu caso). Os erros apresentados pelo script configure em geral devem-se à falta de alguma biblioteca. Mesmo que ele não apresente erros, algo pode dar errado durante o make. As mensagens de erro normalmente só fazem sentido para programadores, embora acredite que se você souber alguns conceitos básicos sobre compilação consiga compilar a maior parte dos programas desenvolvidos para *nix. Talvez o link abaixo ajude: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-program.pt-br.html#s13.7 Espero ter ajudado. --- Danilo Balarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: oi lista Gente, o gcc nunca dá certo quando eu preciso. Estou tentando compilar o lufs(para poder acessar outras partições, preciso mesmo) e ele me retorna o seguinte erro quando eu dou o ./configure : checking for C compiler default output... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables See `config.log' for more details. ___ Yahoo! Messenger 6.0 - jogos, emoticons sonoros e muita diversão. Instale agora! http://br.download.yahoo.com/messenger/
Re: Pau no X
Quando inicio o X, uma tela cinza aparece e, logo antes de dar pau, aparece uma tela com o logo do Debian; também dá tempo de eu dar umas mexidinhas no mouse. Pergunta: o que seria essa tela com o logo da Debian? Um gerenciador de boot ou o Gnome, talvez? De repente não é nem erro no X, é no seu gerenciador de janelas. Já passei por uma situação onde não conseguia inicializar o gerenciador de janela de jeito nenhum, porém o GDM funcionava legal. Só um chute, mas... Quem sabe? :) Não sou expert em X, mas o log que você enviou não parece conter erros. Abraços, Ivo Cavalcante
Debian Edu
Oi, bom dia. Por favor, alguém poderia me dizer o q é exatamente o projeto "Debian Edu" ? Trata-se apenas de uma lista de discussão sobre softwares usados em educação, ou é uma espécie de distribuição linux Debian somente com pacotes educativos? Existe alguma distribuição Debian com pacotes educativos? E o skolelinux? O q é? Obrigado, Leonardo Lourenço Crespilho http://www.nbis.com.br
Re: plug in Java
On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 11:31:20 -0300, Savio Ramos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: export CLASSPATH=.:/opt/j2re1.4.2_04/lib/rt.jar Não seria: /opt/j2re1.4.2_04/lib/rt.jar? ^ -- .''`. Guilherme Mesquita Gondim - semente : :' : semente em gmail.com UiN(ICQ#) 22721986 `. `'` Usuário GNU/Linux #307581, Usuário Debian Brasil #625 `-Quer falar comigo? ;-) Escreva para semente85 em yahoo.com.br Movido a Debian GNU/Linux e anarquismo! # apt-get install anarchism Estou cansado de ser obrigado a cumprir o ritual burocrático exigido aos cidadãos brasileiros a cada eleição, de dois em dois anos. E ainda tenho que me contentar com um custo de pelos menos R$ 500.000 por político a cada mandato? Diga não a essa covardia, VOTE NULO! * Copie este texto para assinar sua mensagem também.
Re: Fwd: Configurar alsa no sarge
Resolveu.. Muito obrigado.. Eu já tinha tentado coisas parecidas, mas acho que faltou algum passo.. Eu tinha removido o discover, mas acho que o pacote libdiscover1 ou algum parecido estava dando problemas. Alexandre Martani On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 01:01:43 -0300, Cláudio E. Elicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 19 September 2004 12:02, Alexandre Martani wrote: O Discover não está instalado, mas acho que ele está carregando os módulos OSS. Como posso fazer para não carrega-lo? Se ajudar, estou enviando a saída do comando lsmod. Obrigado Alexandre $ lsmod Module Size Used by nfs 193984 1 lockd 63944 2 nfs sunrpc153124 4 nfs,lockd snd_mixer_oss 20096 0 ipv6 264612 6 ehci_hcd 32004 0 ohci_hcd 21764 0 usbcore 119012 4 ehci_hcd,ohci_hcd snd_intel8x0 36460 0 snd_ac97_codec 70020 1 snd_intel8x0 snd_pcm98728 1 snd_intel8x0 snd_timer 25668 1 snd_pcm snd_page_alloc 11752 2 snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm gameport4704 1 snd_intel8x0 snd_mpu401_uart 7968 1 snd_intel8x0 snd_rawmidi25156 1 snd_mpu401_uart snd_seq_device 8200 1 snd_rawmidi snd57156 8 snd_mixer_oss,snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_mpu401_uart ,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device pci_hotplug34640 0 sis_agp 8196 1 agpgart34696 1 sis_agp parport_pc 35392 0 parport41832 1 parport_pc i810_audio 37588 0 ac97_codec 18956 1 i810_audio soundcore 10336 2 snd,i810_audio sis900 20580 0 crc32 4320 1 sis900 evdev 9600 0 mousedev 10476 2 tsdev 7392 0 capability 4520 0 commoncap 7232 1 capability psmouse20360 0 ide_cd 42656 0 cdrom 40732 1 ide_cd rtc12760 0 reiserfs 247760 4 ext2 71848 0 ext3 127240 0 jbd62616 1 ext3 mbcache 9348 2 ext2,ext3 ide_generic 1408 0 ide_disk 19296 6 sis551317000 1 ide_core 139940 4 ide_cd,ide_generic,ide_disk,sis5513 unix 28692 102 font8320 0 vesafb 6656 0 cfbcopyarea 3840 1 vesafb cfbimgblt 3040 1 vesafb cfbfillrect 3776 1 vesafb O problema é que o módulo i810_audio é OSS. O módulo ALSA é o snd_intel8x0. E os dois estão instalados juntos. Alguém deve estar carregando o módulo OSS. Dá uma olhada em /etc/modules. Não sei se o hotplug pode carregar o OSS também. No meu caso resolveu assim: - Desinstalei o discover (ou discover1). - Removi na mão todos os módulos de som: rmmod ac97_codec rmmod i810_audio rmmod mpu401 rmmod qualquer módulo que tenha snd no nome Tem que remover na ordem certa. Fui tentando até tirar todos. Não sei se isso é realmente necessário. A idéia é remover todos os módulos de som. - Carregar o módulo de som alsa. Os outros módulos necessários devem ser carregados automaticamente. modprobe snd_intel8x0 - Adicionar snd_intel8x0 em /etc/modules para carregar automaticamente no boot. Remover i810_audio de /etc/modules se necessário. - Configurar o alsa alsaconf Não sei se esse é o jeito *certo*, mas funcionou. Observação (des)necessária: i810_audio e snd_intel8x0 são módulos de som para essa placa de som em questão. Por acaso a motherboard é uma K7S5A? []'s Cláudio -- Alexandre Martani - amartani em gmail com Ainda usando Rwindow$ + Internet Exploder + Outloco Expresso? Mude! GNU/Linux + Mozilla http://jonasgalvez.com/br/blog/2003-10/o-que-a-microsoft-esta-planejando http://counter.li.org/ - usuário Linux número 358811 http://jbonline.terra.com.br/jb/papel/cadernos/internet/2004/07/04/jorinf20040704001.html http://browsehappy.com/
Java(jsdk-1.4_05) não funciona
Olá , estou com problemas para rodar o JSDK da sun aqui na minha maquina estou com o debian unstable , já baixei o binario na sun execultei ele , editei o /etc/profile , li tambem o http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-java-faq/index.html mais não funciona aqui, o free-java-jdk instalei ele pelo apt-get ele funciona normal e tal , mais eu preciso do JSDK da sun =) . ele nem da sinal de vida =..( Alguem tem alguma ideia do que pode ser ??? esse problema ?? Grato
BlackList Yahoo !!
Pessoal , estou com um problema .. vamos ver se vocês podem me ajudar :-) , bom eu tenho um servidor de e-mail Postfix .. , o negócio é o seguinte desde de quando eu montei este servidor (ja faz muito tempo) eu conseguia mandar e-mail para o Yahoo tranquilo .. mas fui mandar um e-mail hoje e recebi a seguinte mensagem no log de e-mail .. :Sep 20 09:08:47mailserver postfix/smtp[25440]: 033CBF7FF: host mx2.mail.yahoo.com[67.28.113.11] refused to talk to me: 553 Mail from 200.200.200.200 not allowed - VS99-IP1 deferred - see help.yahoo.com/help/us/mail/defer/defer-02.html (#5.7.1)Bom , eu sei o que está acontecendo , mas não sei como comecar ... como eu faço para retirar meu IP da blacklist do Yahoo ???OBS: Sendo que 200.200.200.200 é meu IP .Desde já agradeço---Eduardo Augusto PintoAnalista de SuporteLinux User: #335173 Message sent using UebiMiau 2.7
Re: BlackList Yahoo !!
Eduardo, O problema é que o IP atual do seu servidor de email está listado em um dos servidores de rbl que o yahoo usa... :-) Veja na URL: http://rbls.org/?q=200.200.200.200 é logo o primeiro... block.blars.org http://block.blars.org block.blars.org LISTED Cheers, Frederico On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 9:19:36 -, Eduardo Augusto Pinto wrote Pessoal , estou com um problema .. vamos ver se vocês podem me ajudar :-) , bom eu tenho um servidor de e-mail Postfix .. , o negócio é o seguintedesde de quando eu montei este servidor (ja faz muito tempo) eu conseguiamandar e-mail para o Yahoo tranquilo .. mas fui mandar um e-mail hoje erecebi a seguinte mensagem no log de e-mail .. : Sep 2009:08:47 mailserver postfix/smtp[25440]: 033CBF7FF: hostmx2.mail.yahoo.com[67.28.113.11] refused to talk to me: 553 Mail from200.200.200.200 not allowed - VS99-IP1 deferred - seehelp.yahoo.com/help/us/mail/defer/defer-02.html (#5.7.1) Bom , eu seio que está acontecendo , mas não sei como comecar ... como eu faço pararetirar meu IP da blacklist do Yahoo ??? OBS: Sendo que200.200.200.200 é meu IP . Desde jáagradeço --- EduardoAugusto Pinto Analista de Suporte Linux User:#335173 Message sent using UebiMiau 2.7 --To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Frederico Costa LCL Soluções em Tecnologia http://www.lcl.com.br/
Re: Java(jsdk-1.4_05) não funciona
Em Mon, 20 Sep 2004 12:00:34 +0200, Murilo de Souza Lopes escreveu: já baixei o binario na sun Use o Blackdown. -- Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra +55 (44) 3028 7467 ext34 Rua Guarani 361 ap 601 +55 (44) 3025 6253 87.014-040 Maringá, PR +55 (44) 8803 1729 http://br.geocities.com./lgcdutra/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: USB DEVICE
Em Fri, 17 Sep 2004 18:30:17 +0200, adriennycruz escreveu: WINDOWS Fora de tópico. -- Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra +55 (44) 3028 7467 ext34 Rua Guarani 361 ap 601 +55 (44) 3025 6253 87.014-040 Maringá, PR +55 (44) 8803 1729 http://br.geocities.com./lgcdutra/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: plug in Java
On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 12:28:13 -0300 Still [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: JAVA_HOME=/opt/j2sdk1.4.2_05 Ué??? É necessário instalar o pacote para desenvolvimento? Só instalei o re e funcionava. Nunca tive instalado o sdk... -- Savio Martins Ramos - Arquiteto Rio de Janeiro ICQ 174972645 Pirataria não! Seja livre: Linux http://www.debian.org
Pau no X
Oi, pessoal, Estou usando o sarge. Depois de um malfadado apt-get update, apt-get upgrade a algum tempo atrás meu X parou de funcionar, seja pelo gdm seja dando startx. Dei uma olhada no /var/log/XFree86.0.log que, depois de eliminar alguns módulos, ficou do jeito que está abaixo na mensagem. Aparentemente não há mensagens de erro ali. O que mais posso checar? Quando inicio o X, uma tela cinza aparece e, logo antes de dar pau, aparece uma tela com o logo do Debian; também dá tempo de eu dar umas mexidinhas no mouse. Estou com esse problema já faz tempo. Há alguns dias não resisti e usei minha já empoeirada partição Windows, que reativei no menu do GRUB. Por favor, me ajudem antes que eu tenha outra recaída! Obrigado, Maurício ** XFree86.0.log *** This is a pre-release version of XFree86, and is not supported in any way. Bugs may be reported to XFree86@XFree86.Org and patches submitted to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Before reporting bugs in pre-release versions, please check the latest version in the XFree86 CVS repository (http://www.XFree86.Org/cvs). XFree86 Version 4.3.0.1 (Debian 4.3.0.dfsg.1-4 20040529113443 [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Release Date: 15 August 2003 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.6 Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.6-rc3-bk9 i686 [ELF] Build Date: 29 May 2004 Before reporting problems, check http://www.XFree86.Org/ to make sure that you have the latest version. Module Loader present OS Kernel: Linux version 2.6.6-1-686 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 3.3.3 (Debian 20040401)) #1 Wed May 12 14:57:57 EST 2004 Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (==) Log file: /var/log/XFree86.0.log, Time: Sat Sep 11 18:32:08 2004 (==) Using config file: /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 (==) ServerLayout Default Layout (**) |--Screen Default Screen (0) (**) | |--Monitor Generic Monitor (**) | |--Device S3 Inc. 86c988 [ViRGE/VX] (**) |--Input Device Generic Keyboard (**) Option XkbRules xfree86 (**) XKB: rules: xfree86 (**) Option XkbModel pc104 (**) XKB: model: pc104 (**) Option XkbLayout us_intl (**) XKB: layout: us_intl (==) Keyboard: CustomKeycode disabled (**) |--Input Device Configured Mouse (WW) The directory /usr/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic does not exist. Entry deleted from font path. (WW) The directory /usr/lib/X11/fonts/CID does not exist. Entry deleted from font path. (**) FontPath set to unix/:7100,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi (==) RgbPath set to /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb (==) ModulePath set to /usr/X11R6/lib/modules (++) using VT number 7 (II) Open APM successful (II) Module ABI versions: XFree86 ANSI C Emulation: 0.2 XFree86 Video Driver: 0.6 XFree86 XInput driver : 0.4 XFree86 Server Extension : 0.2 XFree86 Font Renderer : 0.4 (II) Loader running on linux (II) LoadModule: bitmap (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libbitmap.a (II) Module bitmap: vendor=The XFree86 Project compiled for 4.3.0.1, module version = 1.0.0 Module class: XFree86 Font Renderer ABI class: XFree86 Font Renderer, version 0.4 (II) Loading font Bitmap (II) LoadModule: pcidata (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libpcidata.a (II) Module pcidata: vendor=The XFree86 Project compiled for 4.3.0.1, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.6 (II) PCI: Probing config type using method 1 (II) PCI: Config type is 1 (II) PCI: stages = 0x03, oldVal1 = 0x, mode1Res1 = 0x8000 (II) PCI: PCI scan (all values are in hex) (II) PCI: 00:00:0: chip 1106,0605 card 1043,802c rev 81 class 06,00,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:01:0: chip 1106,8605 card , rev 00 class 06,04,00 hdr 01 (II) PCI: 00:04:0: chip 1106,0686 card 1043,802c rev 22 class 06,01,00 hdr 80 (II) PCI: 00:04:1: chip 1106,0571 card , rev 10 class 01,01,8a hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:04:2: chip 1106,3038 card 0925,1234 rev 10 class 0c,03,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:04:3: chip 1106,3038 card 0925,1234 rev 10 class 0c,03,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:04:4: chip 1106,3057 card , rev 30 class 06,00,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:04:5: chip 1106,3058 card 1043,11d4 rev 20 class 04,01,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:0f:0: chip 5333,883d card , rev 02 class 03,00,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:10:0: chip 10ec,8029 card , rev 00 class 02,00,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: End of PCI scan (II) Host-to-PCI bridge: (II) Bus 0: bridge is at (0:0:0), (0,0,1), BCTRL: 0x0008 (VGA_EN is set) (II) Bus 0 I/O range: [0] -100x - 0x (0x1) IX[B] (II) Bus 0
Re: Gerenciamento de banda
Procure no Google sobre CBQ .. ele faz gerenciamento de banda.---Eduardo Augusto PintoAnalista de SuporteLinux User: #335173Tel. 11-9848-2121 - Mensagem Original De: "Edmilson Moreira" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Para: "Lista Debian" debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.orgAssunto: Gerenciamento de bandaData: 20/09/04 19:10Caros colegas,To querendo um software para pode gerenciar a largura de banda passandopor um roteador(linux/debian). Grato...Edmilson Moreira--To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message sent using UebiMiau 2.7
Re: debian mirror
On Monday 20 September 2004 16:11, Júlio César de Magalhães wrote: Pessoal o que vocês estão usando pra fazer um mirror debian ? apt-proxy mesmo ? Sugestões ? Uso apt-proxy numa máquina separada, um velho 486 rodando Woody. Funciona bem. As vezes se a conexão é interrompida no meio do download de um pacote ele não consegue mais baixar esse pacote. Não lembro a mensagem de erro que dá. Então removo o download parcial do pacote (no cache do apt-proxy) e começo de novo. Isso acontece raramente e não incomoda muito. Talvez uma versão mais atual não tenha esse problema. []'s Cláudio
Re: Hardmodem + kernel 2.6.8
On Monday 20 September 2004 16:43, igorabrahao wrote: Ok, um voto contra e um a favor do 2.6.8 usando a porta serial, alguém mais já o testou? Aqui kernel 2.6.8-1-k7 instalado direto com apt-get install kernel-image-2.6-k7 Funciona tudo, serial e paralela, sem problemas. Antes tinha kernel 2.6.6-1-386 e também funcionava tudo. []'s Cláudio
Re: upgrade from thunderbird 0.7.x to 0.8 in unstable
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/19/2004 03:18 AM, Alexander Sack wrote: | You need to remove the compreg.dat file in your profile to fix this | without pain. | I will upload a new package soon that makes the 0.7- 0.8 transition | completely painless. good to know. lg, clemens -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFBTnPejBz/yQjBxz8RAvlBAKCxU4snpExCYo+ldVMTiYbVYF4kLACgr3qZ OL4s2W1IUUj/TnN54WgG1c0= =OVX1 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ATI 3D acceleleration and dpkg-divert
Hi, On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 01:13:55 +0200, Nicolas de Sereville [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wim De Smet wrote: On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 22:23:23 +0200, Nicolas de Sereville [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wim De Smet wrote: On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 18:53:58 +0200, Nicolas de Sereville [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Running the groups command shows that the user belongs to the video group. Also, the fglrx module is loaded (I can see it with lsmod). I think my problem is more related to the instalation procedure and the use of dpkg-divert since I managed to have 3d acceleration with the former version of the xserver but overwriting the libGL library. Sounds good, but just to be sure check your xfree startup log. I had this fail a while back because of AGP support problems. I can't help you much with dpkg-divert, but as I recall from trying to change things myself the manpages aren't very helpfull and I'm doubtfull if they are correct. Well, looking at the logs from XFree86.0.log, I can see the following: [snip logs] You can select somewhere in the config of X to use an external agpgart. Try compiling agpgart as a module for your kernel (or if you have done that already that would be even better), make sure the fglrx module isn't loaded and load the appropiate agpgart module. Don't forget to edit the X config on this point! Then start X and see if it can connect to it. At least, that's what I would do. greets, Wim -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ATI 3D acceleleration and dpkg-divert
On Monday 20 September 2004 06:30, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (WW) fglrx(0): Kernel Module version does *not* match driver. The DRM must be compiled against the kernel. There will be a means of telling the make which kernel and which module(s) to make. First, untar the kernel source. Create a linux symlink from the /usr/src to the kernel source head directory. Then, copy the system config from boot to the linux src folder as .config. make oldconfig. Then, start the kernel compile. Make is enough. You do not have to go through the whole mess. Once it starts doing CC compilations, you can stop it. What this does is makes sure all the .h files are where they are needed. Now compile the DRM--you may need to give it the path the the linux src folder. Finally, copy the resulting .ko file to the appropriate /lib/modules/ . folder. Reboot. A good WIKI can be found here: http://dri.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/Building#head-08d485086c70c4b931535491f1ccad21181d731f I used the DRM from this CVS for my ATI rage pro mach64 card but the instructions should be similar for a different source such as flgr. The make World from this CVS would not compile successfully but apparently was not needed--stuff from Sid was enough. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: right handheld computer for a Debian user?
On Sun, Sep 19, 2004 at 06:35:56PM -0400, Carl Fink wrote: On Sat, Sep 18, 2004 at 07:15:40AM +0800, Dan Jacobson wrote: I suppose if I don't insist on being able to use Linux I can lessen the price lots? If all you want is to read documents, the Palm Zire 21 can be obtained for under $60. Mind you, that's only 2MB of storage, so it would depend on how many documents you're looking to store at a time. The Zire is 2MB, the Zire 21 is 8MB (with about 7.3MB available). Also it has a nicer screen than the Zire, 8(16?) shades of grey instead of b/w. hth, Rofi -- Ifor Gaukroger, Rofi, eVe ... If ? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ATI 3D acceleleration and dpkg-divert
Hi, On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 01:13:55 +0200, Nicolas de Sereville [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (WW) fglrx(0): Kernel Module version does *not* match driver. I missed this one. Did you compile the kernel driver again after installing a new version? Maybe the old module is still loaded en you need to unload it first. greets, Wim -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Thunderbird 0.8 folder bug ?
Adam Bogacki wrote: Sorry to be a spoil-sport but when replying (TB0.8) to an email I found the Compose' pane stuck one third of the way down the screen, and the written text proceeding out of sight below the screen. Adam Bogacki [EMAIL PROTECTED] Are you running 0.8-2? -- GPG messages preferred. | .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** Alexander Sack | : :' : The universal [EMAIL PROTECTED] | `. `' Operating System http://www.jwsdot.com/ | `-http://www.debian.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Locked out! How to circumvent password urgently?
On 17-09-2004, at 20h 24'37, Anthony Campbell wrote about Re: Locked out! How to circumvent password urgently? Sorry for this follow-up, but I've now discovered what the original problem with the passwords was. The console keymap has somehow gone wrong and is not generating the correct UK symbols for # ~ @ . This may have happened in today's update from Sid - I'm not sure. Anyway, the passwords I was using contained these characters so they were coming out wrong when I typed them, but of course I couldn't see that! Sometime it happens to me, after an update the keyboard turns either French or German. I keep a user with a password with an easy password to type, from where, after I login, I can change the keyboard type for that user then type su and change it for the system. Ionel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [exim4debian] Re: Debian-exim - blech!
On Fri, 2004-09-17 at 23:35, Marc Haber wrote: I never did understand: what was the problem with mail? First, installing exim4 would probably re-use the account mail which might be assigned to a user. This might grant excessive rights to that user (for example, access rights to the mail queue). mail is and always has been a standard system account: mail:x:8:8:mail:/var/mail:/bin/sh Note the uid of 8 in the system range. It would therefore be impossible to create a user account called mail, because it already exists. If someone is stupid enough to take over the mail account as a private user account, they deserve anything they get. Debian maintainers are not supposed to pervert the system to cope with system administrators who are totally incompetent. Of course your argument applies equally to Debian-exim - it might be assigned to a user; it's quite as likely as that mail might be so assigned. Second, purging exim4 in such a situation could lead to all files belonging to that user to be deleted. Purging exim4 should not cause the deletion of the username nor of files that exim4 did not install. -- Oliver Elphick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Isle of Wight http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver GPG: 1024D/A54310EA 92C8 39E7 280E 3631 3F0E 1EC0 5664 7A2F A543 10EA But my God shall supply all your need according to his riches in glory by Christ Jesus. Philippians 4:19 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: command to answer what's your OS
Travis Crump [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: cat /etc/issue or cat /etc/issue.net I overwrite /etc/issue on all my boxes to provide pre-login text warnings to my users. I don't like advertising which flavour of *nix I'm running. Chris -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ATI 3D acceleleration and dpkg-divert
Hi, Wim De Smet wrote: Hi, On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 01:13:55 +0200, Nicolas de Sereville [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (WW) fglrx(0): Kernel Module version does *not* match driver. I missed this one. Did you compile the kernel driver again after installing a new version? Maybe the old module is still loaded en you need to unload it first. By kernel module, do you mean AGP? Anyway I did not compile anything from the kernel after installing the new version of the fglrx drivers. Nico -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ALSA -- Problem solved by rm /etc/modprobe.conf
On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 10:53:10 -0600, Justin Guerin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, it seems that package hasn't made it into unstable or testing yet. You have options, however. 1) you can do without sound and wait until that package comes in, and then install it. 2) you can compile the Alsa modules from source. 3) you can revert to 2.4.26 until the Alsa modules package becomes available. 4) you can move to a 2.6 series kernel. Alsa is included in those kernels by default, so there is no alsa-modules-2.6* package. How difficult is 2) ? When I tried 4) previously my computer wouldn't boot for some reason (forget now but probably something to do with module dependencies) and I reverted to (then) 2.4.26 It seems your sound card isn't being recognized. Have you tried any other modules using modconf? Yup, with similar results. ps. please copy the list. I don't mind a CC, but you really want to make sure everyone on debian-user has a chance to reply, because a lot of people know a lot more about sound than I do. Apologies... still getting used to this gmail interface *roll-eyes* Thanks for your patient help, -James (remembering to CC to list this time.) -- James Cummings, Cummings dot James at GMail dot com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ATI 3D acceleleration and dpkg-divert
Hi, On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 10:54:46 +0200, Nicolas de Sereville [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Wim De Smet wrote: Hi, On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 01:13:55 +0200, Nicolas de Sereville [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (WW) fglrx(0): Kernel Module version does *not* match driver. I missed this one. Did you compile the kernel driver again after installing a new version? Maybe the old module is still loaded en you need to unload it first. By kernel module, do you mean AGP? Anyway I did not compile anything from the kernel after installing the new version of the fglrx drivers. You need to recompile the fglrx module. You can find the scripts for it in /lib/modules/fglrx, although there may be a problem there if you didn't purge this directory since the last time you compiled something in it. I would suggest removing this directory, reinstalling your generated .deb, then going into this folder and build a new kernel module. (by going into the build_mod dir and running 'sh make.sh') greets, Wim -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ATI 3D acceleleration and dpkg-divert
Hi, David Baron wrote: On Monday 20 September 2004 06:30, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (WW) fglrx(0): Kernel Module version does *not* match driver. The DRM must be compiled against the kernel. There will be a means of telling the make which kernel and which module(s) to make. First, untar the kernel source. Create a linux symlink from the /usr/src to the kernel source head directory. Then, copy the system config from boot to the linux src folder as .config. make oldconfig. Then, start the kernel compile. Make is enough. You do not have to go through the whole mess. Once it starts doing CC compilations, you can stop it. What this does is makes sure all the .h files are where they are needed. Now compile the DRM--you may need to give it the path the the linux src folder. Finally, copy the resulting .ko file to the appropriate /lib/modules/ . folder. Reboot. A good WIKI can be found here: http://dri.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/Building#head-08d485086c70c4b931535491f1ccad21181d731f I used the DRM from this CVS for my ATI rage pro mach64 card but the instructions should be similar for a different source such as flgr. The make World from this CVS would not compile successfully but apparently was not needed--stuff from Sid was enough. Thank you for all this information! I reread the method I followed to install the propriatary driver fglrx (http://g-tec.co.at/ati_alt.html) and I found just before the Notes about 2.6.x kernels section that DRM was not supported by the ATI drivers. In my case and my actual kernel, DRM is compiled. So I am a little bit lost. I remember having read on the web (was not abble to find the web page again...) that one way for making work the 3D acceleration was using the ATI propriatary drivers *or* DRM/DRI *or* the gatos project. Am I right? So if I understand well, you suggest to install DRM/DRI and not the propriatary drivers. Ithink I will try first to deal with the propriatary drivers and recompile my kernel without the DRM activated. It may take some time since I am not very used to do that yet! Thanks, Nico -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ATI 3D acceleleration and dpkg-divert
Hi, Wim De Smet wrote: Hi, On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 10:54:46 +0200, Nicolas de Sereville [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Wim De Smet wrote: Hi, On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 01:13:55 +0200, Nicolas de Sereville [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (WW) fglrx(0): Kernel Module version does *not* match driver. I missed this one. Did you compile the kernel driver again after installing a new version? Maybe the old module is still loaded en you need to unload it first. By kernel module, do you mean AGP? Anyway I did not compile anything from the kernel after installing the new version of the fglrx drivers. You need to recompile the fglrx module. You can find the scripts for it in /lib/modules/fglrx, although there may be a problem there if you didn't purge this directory since the last time you compiled something in it. I would suggest removing this directory, reinstalling your generated .deb, then going into this folder and build a new kernel module. (by going into the build_mod dir and running 'sh make.sh') Ah! it may be that point! When I desinstalled the previous fglrx package to upgrade the xserver, it told me that some files could not be erased. But i reinstall the new .deb file and compiled the driver anyway, so I may have a mismatch between old and new files Will try what you suggest as soon as I go home and let you know. Thanks, Nico -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Failed PPP hangs system
On Sat, Sep 18, 2004 at 10:51:47PM +0300, Robert Golovniov wrote: I have a very strange problem to deal with. When a ppp connections gets broken, the whole system (Sarge) hangs and I cannot do anything with it - neither through ssh, nor even through the normal keyboard. What might be the root of the problem and how to fight with it? Only a buggy driver (or other kernel component) can make the whole system hang. -- Thomas Hood -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Locked out! How to circumvent password urgently?
On 20 Sep 2004, Ionel Mugurel Ciobica wrote: On 17-09-2004, at 20h 24'37, Anthony Campbell wrote about Re: Locked out! How to circumvent password urgently? Sorry for this follow-up, but I've now discovered what the original problem with the passwords was. The console keymap has somehow gone wrong and is not generating the correct UK symbols for # ~ @ . This may have happened in today's update from Sid - I'm not sure. Anyway, the passwords I was using contained these characters so they were coming out wrong when I typed them, but of course I couldn't see that! Sometime it happens to me, after an update the keyboard turns either French or German. I keep a user with a password with an easy password to type, from where, after I login, I can change the keyboard type for that user then type su and change it for the system. Ionel I may do that if it happens again. Anthony -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]|| http://www.acampbell.org.uk using Linux GNU/Debian || for book reviews, electronic Windows-free zone || books and skeptical articles -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
kernel 2.6.7 2.4.18
Hi, i have installed sarge wiht kernel 2.6.7 But for some reason i need 2.4.18 kernel in particular..Is it possible to have that also after having a higher version...? Regards. Vijaya -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kernel 2.6.7 2.4.18
Vijaya need 2.4.18 kernel in particular..Is it possible to have that also after having a higher version Yes, it is possible. Both can exist peacefully. Kernel v2.6.x requires you to have the module-init-tools package installed. -- Ragu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Not optimal display
On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 22:58:57 -0400, Jean-Francois Lefebvre [...] I'm running Sarge. I looked in the XF86Config-4 file and the ati driver is selected. I typed : insmod radeon, and the response message was : Using /lib/modules/2.4.26-1-386/kernel/drivers/char/drm/radeon.o insmod: a module named radeon already exists When I type glxinfo, the direct rendering is No. Here is the full glxinfo output. name of display: :0.0 display: :0 screen: 0 direct rendering: No server glx vendor string: SGI server glx version string: 1.2 server glx extensions: GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_EXT_import_context client glx vendor string: SGI client glx version string: 1.2 client glx extensions: GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_EXT_import_context GLX extensions: GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_EXT_import_context OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect OpenGL version string: 1.3 Mesa 4.0.4 OpenGL extensions: GL_ARB_imaging, GL_ARB_multitexture, GL_ARB_texture_border_clamp, GL_ARB_texture_cube_map, GL_ARB_texture_env_add, GL_ARB_texture_env_combine, GL_ARB_texture_env_dot3, GL_ARB_transpose_matrix, GL_EXT_abgr, GL_EXT_blend_color, GL_EXT_blend_minmax, GL_EXT_blend_subtract, GL_EXT_texture_env_add, GL_EXT_texture_env_combine, GL_EXT_texture_env_dot3, GL_EXT_texture_lod_bias glu version: 1.3 glu extensions: GLU_EXT_nurbs_tessellator, GLU_EXT_object_space_tess visual x bf lv rg d st colorbuffer ax dp st accumbuffer ms cav id dep cl sp sz l ci b ro r g b a bf th cl r g b a ns b eat -- 0x23 24 tc 1 24 0 r y . 8 8 8 0 0 16 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 None 0x24 24 tc 1 24 0 r y . 8 8 8 0 0 16 8 16 16 16 0 0 0 None 0x25 24 tc 1 24 0 r y . 8 8 8 8 0 16 8 16 16 16 16 0 0 None 0x26 24 tc 1 24 0 r . . 8 8 8 8 0 16 8 16 16 16 16 0 0 None 0x27 24 dc 1 24 0 r y . 8 8 8 0 0 16 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 None 0x28 24 dc 1 24 0 r y . 8 8 8 0 0 16 8 16 16 16 0 0 0 None 0x29 24 dc 1 24 0 r y . 8 8 8 8 0 16 8 16 16 16 16 0 0 None 0x2a 24 dc 1 24 0 r . . 8 8 8 8 0 16 8 16 16 16 16 0 0 None Hummm. What can I do now? Right now the problem is in yor AGP kernel modules, maybe they aren't loaded or your chipset isn't supported. Andrea -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [exim4debian] Re: Debian-exim - blech!
On Mon, Sep 20, 2004 at 09:48:43AM +0100, Oliver Elphick wrote: mail is and always has been a standard system account: mail is also the account that owns the mail spool, hence all MUAs run sgid mail per policy. Running the MTA as mail as well would mean that the MTA's queue would have to belong to mail as well, giving MUAs read access to the MTA's queue, which is a significant security risk. This is the reason why we decided to run exim4 with a non-mail account. Of course your argument applies equally to Debian-exim - it might be assigned to a user; it's quite as likely as that mail might be so assigned. I beg to differ here. It is quite more unlikely to re-use an account with a name _that_ ugly. Second, purging exim4 in such a situation could lead to all files belonging to that user to be deleted. Purging exim4 should not cause the deletion of the username I beg to differ again. nor of files that exim4 did not install. So we shouldn't purge the mail queue and hints database? Since policy requires a purged package to vanish without leaving any trace of its installation, that would be a policy violation. Anyway, I am sick of this discussion. You didn't bring a single new argument into it. Please try to establish policy about package user names, or take the issue to the tech ctte. Until then, Debian-exim is bound to stay. Greetings Marc -- - Marc Haber | I don't trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Header Karlsruhe, Germany | lose things.Winona Ryder | Fon: *49 721 966 32 15 Nordisch by Nature | How to make an American Quilt | Fax: *49 721 966 31 29 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Audio/Video Editing program
Andrew Konosky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am looking for an audio editing program that I can use to mix songs from my CDs that I've ripped in order to create custom mixes, and possibly add them to a video file as well. Any suggestions? I would prefer a GUI application, but I can use a text-based application also. What about a video editing program?I have had excellent results with Audacity, for sound. Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - Send 10MB messages!
Volume 2004 : Issue 1192
hello, i have recived the bouletine debian-user-digest DigestVolume 2004 : Issue 1192 but the old boletines i don't know when i coud find. please if its possible, tell me if its possible find in some one web page hrttp://? thanks _ La información más fresca desde diferentes puntos de vista en la Revista de Prensa de MSN. http://es.newsbot.msn.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Developing flash on debian
On Sun, Sep 19, 2004 at 07:54:13PM -0400 or thereabouts, Michael Marsh wrote: On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 18:43:07 -0400, Carl Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, the most obvious is flashblock. I don't think that's what Pigeon had in mind, useful though it is. I think what he(?) meant was something that extracts the navigation URLs within a flash animation so that the site is navigable. For example, many sites have a flash-based homepage with no non-flash links presented, so if you're not running flash, the site is useless. Actually NOT so -- I would think these kind of Flash sites are in the minority, at least in 2004. Most of you are appear to be behind recent Flash technology which provides developers with the ability to make their Flash available to people with Disabilities. Of course the official Flash product provides this feature, often 3rd party Flash applications don't provide any mechansim to make Flash accessible. Additonally many Flash developers don't make the obscene splash pages that we all hate. Things have moved on, and improved. Not all Flash developers are morons. ;) For accessibility reference in Flash see; http://www.macromedia.com/macromedia/accessibility/features/flash/ -- Steve + Monday Sep 20 2004 08:16:01 AM EDT + Computers can figure out all kinds of problems, except the things in the world that just don't add up. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Developing flash on debian
On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 08:19:27 -0400, S.D.A. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Sep 19, 2004 at 07:54:13PM -0400 or thereabouts, Michael Marsh wrote: I don't think that's what Pigeon had in mind, useful though it is. I think what he(?) meant was something that extracts the navigation URLs within a flash animation so that the site is navigable. For example, many sites have a flash-based homepage with no non-flash links presented, so if you're not running flash, the site is useless. Actually NOT so -- I would think these kind of Flash sites are in the minority, at least in 2004. I never said they were in the majority. Many isn't most. Most of you are appear to be behind recent Flash technology which provides developers with the ability to make their Flash available to people with Disabilities. Of course the official Flash product provides this feature, often 3rd party Flash applications don't provide any mechansim to make Flash accessible. That's true -- I wasn't aware of that. However, that doesn't address the issue that some people don't run Flash for one reason or another. Most of us have surrendered to Javascript, but that doesn't mean we have to surrender to Flash. It's not only about accessibility for the disabled, it's about accessibility for people who don't want to run non-free software. Additonally many Flash developers don't make the obscene splash pages that we all hate. Things have moved on, and improved. Not all Flash developers are morons. ;) Of course. There are sites, however (I've seen at least one recently, though I can't remember what it was) that format *all* of their pages (at least the ones available from their main entry page) entirely in Flash. -- Michael A. Marsh http://www.umiacs.umd.edu/~mmarsh -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Developing flash on debian
On Mon, Sep 20, 2004 at 08:54:09AM -0400 or thereabouts, Michael Marsh wrote: On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 08:19:27 -0400, S.D.A. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Sep 19, 2004 at 07:54:13PM -0400 or thereabouts, Michael Marsh wrote: I don't think that's what Pigeon had in mind, useful though it is. I think what he(?) meant was something that extracts the navigation URLs within a flash animation so that the site is navigable. For example, many sites have a flash-based homepage with no non-flash links presented, so if you're not running flash, the site is useless. Actually NOT so -- I would think these kind of Flash sites are in the minority, at least in 2004. I never said they were in the majority. Many isn't most. I dispute many as well. There are many sites using Flash technology that don't have Flash splash pages. Most of the Internet news sites use Flash for Ad signage. Most of you are appear to be behind recent Flash technology which provides developers with the ability to make their Flash available to people with Disabilities. Of course the official Flash product provides this feature, often 3rd party Flash applications don't provide any mechansim to make Flash accessible. That's true -- I wasn't aware of that. However, that doesn't address the issue that some people don't run Flash for one reason or another. Most of us have surrendered to Javascript, but that doesn't mean we have to surrender to Flash. It's not only about accessibility for the disabled, it's about accessibility for people who don't want to run non-free software. Well, Flash is only going to increase as it's perfect for creating interfaces to the backend server side technology. If you disable Flash in the future, you're going to eliminate some pretty important website functionality, on some big websites. BTW Flash technology is OPEN Source, it's NOT proprietary. Too much is said that's not accurate regarding Flash. Additonally many Flash developers don't make the obscene splash pages that we all hate. Things have moved on, and improved. Not all Flash developers are morons. ;) Of course. There are sites, however (I've seen at least one recently, though I can't remember what it was) that format *all* of their pages (at least the ones available from their main entry page) entirely in Flash. Well that's a mistake, at least at present (This will change though). It's a perfect medium for making sites that translate well to Hand helds (PDAs). I've seen a nice little Flash application that replaces PHPMyAdmin, in terms of functionality and speed. This is the kind of Flash enabled application, that developers are creating these days. -- Steve + Monday Sep 20 2004 09:01:01 AM EDT + A language that doesn't have everything is actually easier to program in than some that do. -- Dennis M. Ritchie signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Keyboard occasionally nonresponsive on bootup with Debian Sid
Hmm. I'm fairly certain the keyboard fails to work when I haven't pressed any keys yet (not even 'return' to select the kernel in GRUB--it usually just picks the first one after 5 seconds). I can't for the life of me think of what would make it occur only occasionally, though. My gut instinct is to declare, with a 98.625% confidence level, that your keyboard/keyboard connector is flakey. You may have missed the part where I said that I had this problem on two different laptops. I was certain it was hardware as well on the first laptop (a Dell Latitude), but then I got a brand new IBM Thinkpad X40, and the same behavior occurred immediately out of the box. The Latitude was nearly new as well. What is your confidence level that two brand new laptops would both have the same keyboard/connector flakiness, that only occurs after the bootloader is done, but not before? -- Adam Rosi-Kessel http://adam.rosi-kessel.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Developing flash on debian
On Mon, Sep 20, 2004 at 08:19:27AM -0400, S.D.A. wrote: On Sun, Sep 19, 2004 at 07:54:13PM -0400 or thereabouts, Michael Marsh wrote: On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 18:43:07 -0400, Carl Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, the most obvious is flashblock. I don't think that's what Pigeon had in mind, useful though it is. I think what he(?) meant was something that extracts the navigation URLs within a flash animation so that the site is navigable. For example, many sites have a flash-based homepage with no non-flash links presented, so if you're not running flash, the site is useless. Actually NOT so -- I would think these kind of Flash sites are in the minority, at least in 2004. Most of you are appear to be behind recent Flash technology which provides developers with the ability to make their Flash available to people with Disabilities. Of course the official Flash product provides this feature, often 3rd party Flash applications don't provide any mechansim to make Flash accessible. Thank you for sending me a flash plugin supporting accessibility features for powerpc or hppa. Frank -- Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first place. Therefore, if you write the code as cleverly as possible, you are, by definition, not smart enough to debug it. - Brian W. Kernighan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Keyboard occasionally nonresponsive on bootup with Debian Sid
Adam Rosi-Kessel wrote: Hmm. I'm fairly certain the keyboard fails to work when I haven't pressed any keys yet (not even 'return' to select the kernel in GRUB--it usually just picks the first one after 5 seconds). I can't for the life of me think of what would make it occur only occasionally, though. My gut instinct is to declare, with a 98.625% confidence level, that your keyboard/keyboard connector is flakey. You may have missed the part where I said that I had this problem on two different laptops. I was certain it was hardware as well on the first laptop (a Dell Latitude), but then I got a brand new IBM Thinkpad X40, and the same behavior occurred immediately out of the box. The Latitude was nearly new as well. Ah, yes, I did miss that. What is your confidence level that two brand new laptops would both have the same keyboard/connector flakiness, that only occurs after the bootloader is done, but not before? I missed that as well. My confidence level has dropped substantially now. Never mind. -- Kent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Developing flash on debian
At 14:09 20/09/2004, you wrote: BTW Flash technology is OPEN Source, it's NOT proprietary. Too much is said that's not accurate regarding Flash. I was under the impression that flash is open source in the same way as PDF; the format is open, but the big-time applications (FlashMX, Acrobat) are very heavily closed. The same can be said of Macromedia's flash player, and it's lack of open-sourced-ness and dragging of heels in Macromedia means it's slow and perpetually out of date. Are there any open source drop-in replacements for the flash player? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Java package
Em Sat, 18 Sep 2004 22:40:06 +0200, Otto Wyss escreveu: What's the name of a Java package for Mozilla? Depends on what you want. Runtime, SDK? Check http://apt-get.org./ and http://blackdown.org./ -- Leandro Guimares Faria Corsetti Dutra +55 (44) 3028 7467 ext34 Rua Guarani 361 ap 601 +55 (44) 3025 6253 87.014-040 Maring, PR +55 (44) 8803 1729 http://br.geocities.com./lgcdutra/[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How to link kernel_headers?
I installed the kernel_headers_version package and it created a directory that was called: /usr/src/kernel_headers_version It seemed a trivial matter to make the link to be: ln -s /usr/src/kernel_headers_version /usr/src/linux Yet when I tried to rmp -rebuild rpm.src.rpm it went off looking for something under a directory that looked something like this: /usr/src/kernel_headers_version/more version numbers It was a trivial matter to issue the make command 'by hand' and alter the parameter for the header location, but I'm confused as to why the way I linked them up wasn't used? Am I wrong? Am I being too simple-minded and the .rpm programmers trying to tell me to use that EXACT version of the headers that they had listed there? I think they had 2.4.9-something where mine were 2.4.16. The rpm (modem driver) compiled but I haven't tried to use it yet. Whether it works or not I was curius about the situation. __ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Developing flash on debian
On Mon, Sep 20, 2004 at 02:39:13PM +0100 or thereabouts, Stephen Tait wrote: At 14:09 20/09/2004, you wrote: BTW Flash technology is OPEN Source, it's NOT proprietary. Too much is said that's not accurate regarding Flash. I was under the impression that flash is open source in the same way as PDF; the format is open, but the big-time applications (FlashMX, Acrobat) are very heavily closed. The same can be said of Macromedia's flash player, and it's lack of open-sourced-ness and dragging of heels in Macromedia means it's slow and perpetually out of date. Out of date? They seem to be producing updates rather frequently these days... There are a plethora of fine applications, that are equally as good as Macromedia's FlashMX 2004 Standard. See; http://www.openswf.org/ and for a list of Flash projects in development in the OSS community; http://sourceforge.net/search/ Enter 'swf' as the query string and one will get over 3 pages of Flash Applications. Are there any open source drop-in replacements for the flash player? I didn't do an exhaustive search but here's one; http://sourceforge.net/projects/tubesock/ -- Steve + Monday Sep 20 2004 10:06:01 AM EDT + Sometime in 1993 NANCY SINATRA will lead a BLOODLESS COUP on GUAM!! signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Not optimal display
Jean-Francois Lefebvre wrote: Hi. I'm using Debian since 2 weeks, and so far I'm happy with it. But there's one problem. I have an ATI Radeon 9000 graphic card, and still when a GL screensaver (like Euphoria) appears, it's very slow. How do I ensure that my display is optimal for my graphic card. How can I install the latest ATI driver (which are rpm package). Do I need them? I don't know where the problem is... Can anyone help me? Check out the ATI Linux driver packages for Debian (http://xoomer.virgilio.it/flavio.stanchina/debian/fglrx-installer.html). It provides packages which automate the conversion, compilation and setup of the ATI binary-only drivers in your Debian box (including support for 2.6.x kernels in case you are running them). -- Jean-François Lefebvre École Polytechnique de Montréal Étudiant à la maîtrise génie énergétique []'s Ulisses Montenegro -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
limiting resources
I operate a shell server with about 200 users. Spamassassin powers the machine, and users use sa-learn to teach it about spam and ham. The machine receives about 5-20 mails per second and the hardware keeps the load between 0.15 and 0.30. Every now and then, coincidence will have it that 10 or 20 users invoke spamassassin at the same time. Spamassassin is a resource hog and that will cause the machine to basically become unusable, with the load going to 30 and higher. It usually takes it about half an hour to get back to a usable state (after all backup MX delivered the queued mail, causing it to receive up to 30 mails per second. Obviously, I have put limits on local deliveries so that postfix itself does not ever screw up the machine. Now I need to limit the local users. Other than PAM limits, which seems to only work on number of processes, is there a way to dynamically limit the load a shell-user can cause? I am talking load-balancing ... give each user 100% unless others want slices too. Do you know of a solution I could employ? Thanks, -- Please do not CC me when replying to lists; I read them! .''`. martin f. krafft [EMAIL PROTECTED] : :' :proud Debian developer, admin, and user `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fixing a system Invalid/expired PGP subkeys? Use subkeys.pgp.net as keyserver! signature.asc Description: Digital signature
BIG mail box...
Hey!. I setup qmail and courier imap last night... i also installed squirrelmail... which works fine! IF i have small mail boxes... but me being me... copied all my old mail into the new mail box and now squirrelmail wont load the box... its obviously too big for it... As Mozilla picks up the mail fine and shows them all fine too :) So my question is... anyone know of a better/good webmail client that can handle big mail boxes... i've looked at silkymail but it looks a little old i dunno if i could make a theme i havnt really looked into that... i really wanted squirrelmail or something that looked as good, unless there is a something i can edit so it accepts the bigger mail box ? Thanks in advance Grant. Ps - there is abount 4000 mails in the box... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ATI 3D acceleleration and dpkg-divert
On Monday 20 September 2004 16:39, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I reread the method I followed to install the propriatary driver fglrx (http://g-tec.co.at/ati_alt.html) and I found just before the Notes about 2.6.x kernels section that DRM was not supported by the ATI drivers. So get your stuff from the CVS I used. Compile the DRM for your kernel and your card. The World make may or may not work or be useful. The instructions definitely apply to 2.6.x kernels. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Audio/Video Editing program
Andrew Konosky wrote: I am looking for an audio editing program that I can use to mix songs from my CDs that I've ripped in order to create custom mixes, and possibly add them to a video file as well. Any suggestions? I would prefer a GUI application, but I can use a text-based application also. What about a video editing program? For video editing and exporting to varioius formats (mpeg, DVD, etc) you might want to have a look at Cinelerra. For video capture and editing, try Kino. -HS -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ALSA -- Problem solved by rm /etc/modprobe.conf
On Monday 20 September 2004 03:00, James Cummings wrote: On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 10:53:10 -0600, Justin Guerin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, it seems that package hasn't made it into unstable or testing yet. You have options, however. 1) you can do without sound and wait until that package comes in, and then install it. 2) you can compile the Alsa modules from source. 3) you can revert to 2.4.26 until the Alsa modules package becomes available. 4) you can move to a 2.6 series kernel. Alsa is included in those kernels by default, so there is no alsa-modules-2.6* package. How difficult is 2) ? When I tried 4) previously my computer wouldn't boot for some reason (forget now but probably something to do with module dependencies) and I reverted to (then) 2.4.26 I have never compiled Alsa from source, so I can't fairly comment on how difficult it is. However, if you're comfortable compiling a kernel from source, Alsa shouldn't be any harder. If you want to try a 2.6 series again, start a new thread with your error message, and we'll try to help you out. It seems your sound card isn't being recognized. Have you tried any other modules using modconf? Yup, with similar results. This is unexpected. Well, if this and any of the other solutions mentioned in other threads don't solve your problem, then I guess going to Alsa is the only thing that's going to do it. Justin ps. please copy the list. I don't mind a CC, but you really want to make sure everyone on debian-user has a chance to reply, because a lot of people know a lot more about sound than I do. Apologies... still getting used to this gmail interface *roll-eyes* Thanks for your patient help, -James (remembering to CC to list this time.) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Unable to ping gateway
I can ping my server, and the gateway from my home pc, but can not ping the gateway nor another server on the same subnet from the server. I use bond0 for eth0 and eth1. When I clear iptables there is no change. Any ideas? Best regards Jacob Larsen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Unable to ping gateway
Jacob Larsen wrote: I can ping my server, and the gateway from my home pc, but can not ping the gateway nor another server on the same subnet from the server. I use bond0 for eth0 and eth1. When I clear iptables there is no change. Any ideas? Best regards Jacob Larsen ifconfig? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BIG mail box...
On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 15:58:07 +0100 Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey!. I setup qmail and courier imap last night... i also installed squirrelmail... which works fine! IF i have small mail boxes... but me being me... copied all my old mail into the new mail box and now squirrelmail wont load the box... its obviously too big for it... As Mozilla picks up the mail fine and shows them all fine too :) So my question is... anyone know of a better/good webmail client that can handle big mail boxes... i've looked at silkymail but it looks a little old i dunno if i could make a theme i havnt really looked into that... i really wanted squirrelmail or something that looked as good, unless there is a something i can edit so it accepts the bigger mail box ? I've heard Squirrelmail's latest development branch (1.5.xx?) has a fix for this. If your webmail isn't mission critical, you might give it a try. Also, Ilohamail (available via apt-get) loads a lot faster on my server and seems to work as well as Squirrelmail - provided you don't use many Squirrelmail plugins currently. However, if you're using it for mailing lists, I have heard that it doesn't include References to make threading work right for people reading your replies. HTH, Jacob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Unable to ping gateway
I can ping my server, and the gateway from my home pc, but can not ping the gateway nor another server on the same subnet from the server. I use bond0 for eth0 and eth1. When I clear iptables there is no change. Any ideas? ifconfig? # ifconfig bond0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:0F:20:7A:7A:53 inet addr:81.7.167.228 Bcast:81.255.255.255 Mask:255.255.255.240 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MASTER MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:1494 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:12 TX packets:809 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:21 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:112805 (110.1 KiB) TX bytes:99044 (96.7 KiB) eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:0F:20:7A:7A:53 inet addr:81.7.167.226 Bcast:81.255.255.255 Mask:255.255.255.240 UP BROADCAST RUNNING SLAVE MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:1037 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:6 TX packets:403 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:11 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:77395 (75.5 KiB) TX bytes:48278 (47.1 KiB) Interrupt:18 eth1 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:0F:20:7A:7A:52 inet addr:81.7.167.227 Bcast:81.255.255.255 Mask:255.255.255.240 UP BROADCAST RUNNING SLAVE MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:457 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:6 TX packets:406 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:10 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:35410 (34.5 KiB) TX bytes:50766 (49.5 KiB) Interrupt:19 loLink encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 RX packets:402 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:402 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:42547 (41.5 KiB) TX bytes:42547 (41.5 KiB) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BIG mail box...
Jacob S wrote: On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 15:58:07 +0100 Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey!. I setup qmail and courier imap last night... i also installed squirrelmail... which works fine! IF i have small mail boxes... but me being me... copied all my old mail into the new mail box and now squirrelmail wont load the box... its obviously too big for it... As Mozilla picks up the mail fine and shows them all fine too :) So my question is... anyone know of a better/good webmail client that can handle big mail boxes... i've looked at silkymail but it looks a little old i dunno if i could make a theme i havnt really looked into that... i really wanted squirrelmail or something that looked as good, unless there is a something i can edit so it accepts the bigger mail box ? I've heard Squirrelmail's latest development branch (1.5.xx?) has a fix for this. If your webmail isn't mission critical, you might give it a try. Also, Ilohamail (available via apt-get) loads a lot faster on my server and seems to work as well as Squirrelmail - provided you don't use many Squirrelmail plugins currently. However, if you're using it for mailing lists, I have heard that it doesn't include References to make threading work right for people reading your replies. HTH, Jacob Hey! Thanks for that! ilohamail is PERFECT! it loads fast AND looks good also :D oh and it loads the big mail box :D thanks again! :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Java package
* Otto Wyss [EMAIL PROTECTED]: What's the name of a Java package for Mozilla? Check j2se-package on http://z42.de/debian/ -- Kai Weber * [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.glorybox.de gpg-key: 0x594D4132 icq: 102024972 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Unable to ping gateway
can you ping the ethernet cards within the server? if you run shell~#ifconfig what is the output? and if you run shell~#route -n what is the output? On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 17:14:51 +0200, Jacob Larsen wrote: I can ping my server, and the gateway from my home pc, but can not ping the gateway nor another server on the same subnet from the server. I use bond0 for eth0 and eth1. When I clear iptables there is no change. Any ideas? Best regards Jacob Larsen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ing. Sergio Basurto Juárez Tel: 04455-85322945 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Unable to ping gateway
can you ping your ethernet cards from within the server? if you run shell~#ifconfig what is the output? if you run shell~#route -n what is the output? On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 17:14:51 +0200, Jacob Larsen wrote: I can ping my server, and the gateway from my home pc, but can not ping the gateway nor another server on the same subnet from the server. I use bond0 for eth0 and eth1. When I clear iptables there is no change. Any ideas? Best regards Jacob Larsen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ing. Sergio Basurto Juárez Tel: 04455-85322945 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: limiting resources
On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 16:57:21 +0200, martin f krafft [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I operate a shell server with about 200 users. Spamassassin powers the machine, and users use sa-learn to teach it about spam and ham. The machine receives about 5-20 mails per second and the hardware keeps the load between 0.15 and 0.30. Every now and then, coincidence will have it that 10 or 20 users invoke spamassassin at the same time. Spamassassin is a resource hog and that will cause the machine to basically become unusable, with the load going to 30 and higher. It usually takes it about half an hour to get back to a usable state (after all backup MX delivered the queued mail, causing it to receive up to 30 mails per second. Obviously, I have put limits on local deliveries so that postfix itself does not ever screw up the machine. Now I need to limit the local users. Other than PAM limits, which seems to only work on number of processes, is there a way to dynamically limit the load a shell-user can cause? I am talking load-balancing ... give each user 100% unless others want slices too. Do you know of a solution I could employ? I had a similar problem. My solution was to disallow the use of spamassassin and force users to use spamc. This requires your server to run spamd as well. The spamassassin docs have info on the benefits and risks of this method. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Unable to ping gateway
On Mon, 2004-09-20 at 08:47, Jacob Larsen wrote: I can ping my server, and the gateway from my home pc, but can not ping the gateway nor another server on the same subnet from the server. I use bond0 for eth0 and eth1. When I clear iptables there is no change. eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:0F:20:7A:7A:53 inet addr:81.7.167.226 Bcast:81.255.255.255 Mask:255.255.255.240 UP BROADCAST RUNNING SLAVE MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:1037 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:6 TX packets:403 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:11 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:77395 (75.5 KiB) TX bytes:48278 (47.1 KiB) Interrupt:18 11100010 -- .226 -- mask This gives you 15 addresses. Why is the broadcast address not one of these 15? The broadcast should be 81.7.167.239 which is the highest address you have using that netmask. Not? I really don't know what bond0 is so I may be missing something. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: limiting resources
also sprach Brett Carrington [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004.09.20.1806 +0200]: I had a similar problem. My solution was to disallow the use of spamassassin and force users to use spamc. This requires your server to run spamd as well. The spamassassin docs have info on the benefits and risks of this method. I forgot to mention that spamc is of course being used. However, spamc does not provide the means to strip markup from email messages, nor can it report to razor. My users don't need spamassassin for spam checking, but for spam processing. -- Please do not CC me when replying to lists; I read them! .''`. martin f. krafft [EMAIL PROTECTED] : :' :proud Debian developer, admin, and user `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fixing a system Invalid/expired PGP subkeys? Use subkeys.pgp.net as keyserver! signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Failed PPP hangs system
Bill Marcum wrote: Get an external modem. You would be surprised, Bill, but that is exactly what is happening when I connect with an external U.S.Robotics modem. :-) Any other ideas? Perhaps I have to configure some options in the wvdial config? -- -=Robert Beata Golovniov | Lviv, Ukraine=- ~~~ Taste and see that Jehovah is good. - Psalm 34:8 PGP key at: https://www.biglumber.com/x/web?qs=golovniov%40interia.pl ~~~ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Unable to ping gateway
Sergio Basurto wrote: can you ping the ethernet cards within the server? Yes. if you run shell~#ifconfig what is the output? # ifconfig bond0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:0F:20:7A:7A:53 inet addr:81.7.167.228 Bcast:81.255.255.255 Mask:255.255.255.240 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MASTER MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:1494 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:12 TX packets:809 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:21 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:112805 (110.1 KiB) TX bytes:99044 (96.7 KiB) eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:0F:20:7A:7A:53 inet addr:81.7.167.226 Bcast:81.255.255.255 Mask:255.255.255.240 UP BROADCAST RUNNING SLAVE MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:1037 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:6 TX packets:403 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:11 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:77395 (75.5 KiB) TX bytes:48278 (47.1 KiB) Interrupt:18 eth1 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:0F:20:7A:7A:52 inet addr:81.7.167.227 Bcast:81.255.255.255 Mask:255.255.255.240 UP BROADCAST RUNNING SLAVE MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:457 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:6 TX packets:406 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:10 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:35410 (34.5 KiB) TX bytes:50766 (49.5 KiB) Interrupt:19 loLink encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 RX packets:402 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:402 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:42547 (41.5 KiB) TX bytes:42547 (41.5 KiB) and if you run shell~#route -n what is the output? # route -n Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse Iface 81.7.167.2240.0.0.0 255.255.255.240 U 0 00 eth0 81.7.167.2240.0.0.0 255.255.255.240 U 0 00 eth1 81.7.167.2240.0.0.0 255.255.255.240 U 0 00 bond0 0.0.0.0 81.7.167.2250.0.0.0 UG0 00 bond0 0.0.0.0 81.7.167.2250.0.0.0 UG0 00 eth1 0.0.0.0 81.7.167.2250.0.0.0 UG0 00 eth0 On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 17:14:51 +0200, Jacob Larsen wrote: I can ping my server, and the gateway from my home pc, but can not ping the gateway nor another server on the same subnet from the server. I use bond0 for eth0 and eth1. When I clear iptables there is no change. Any ideas? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Unable to ping gateway
Eric Gaumer wrote: On Mon, 2004-09-20 at 08:47, Jacob Larsen wrote: I can ping my server, and the gateway from my home pc, but can not ping the gateway nor another server on the same subnet from the server. I use bond0 for eth0 and eth1. When I clear iptables there is no change. eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:0F:20:7A:7A:53 inet addr:81.7.167.226 Bcast:81.255.255.255 Mask:255.255.255.240 UP BROADCAST RUNNING SLAVE MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:1037 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:6 TX packets:403 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:11 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:77395 (75.5 KiB) TX bytes:48278 (47.1 KiB) Interrupt:18 11100010 -- .226 -- mask This gives you 15 addresses. Why is the broadcast address not one of these 15? The broadcast should be 81.7.167.239 which is the highest address you have using that netmask. Not? I am a novice in this area. Could this help: # cat /etc/network/interfaces auto lo iface lo inet loopback auto eth0 iface eth0 inet static address 81.7.167.226 netmask 255.255.255.240 gateway 81.7.167.225 auto eth1 iface eth1 inet static address 81.7.167.227 netmask 255.255.255.240 gateway 81.7.167.225 auto bond0 iface bond0 inet static address 81.7.167.228 netmask 255.255.255.240 gateway 81.7.167.225 up ifenslave bond0 eth0 up ifenslave bond0 eth1 post-down ifconfig eth1 down post-down ifconfig eth0 down I really don't know what bond0 is so I may be missing something. bond0 is Bonding. If eth0 is down eth1 takes over... Thanks, Jacob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Firefox and Mozilla memory usage issues
I think that this problem is related to Shockwave Flash Marco Kamaraju Kusumanchi wrote: On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 21:44:17 +0100 (BST), [KS] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I mostly use Firefox or Mozilla for my web browsing purposes. Both programs are great and provide the user with a lot of choice for configuration and using features and extensions. However, I have noticed that if I use Firefox for a long time, it tends to eat up a lot of memory. And I mean a lot of memory. Last night, almost all my 256MB of RAM was full. The only programs running Sounds familiar to me. I have about 1GB ram and yesterday I saw my hard disk LED was continuously on. When I checked with free, I was surprised to see some swap space being used. I thought my hard disk or ram is probably going bad and did not bother to do much research. Incidentally I was running firefox along with other apps such as thunderbird. Cannot pin point to firefox but something fishy is going on if it is not my hardware problem I am also using debian sid, running 2.6.7-1-386 and is updated daily. raju -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: partition/grub errors w/sarge iso (solved)
Russel Hill wrote: Rob Benton wrote: Yeah I've got a Seagate Barracuda 40 GB. I think the next thing I'll try is using cfdisk to create my partitions and then just use the sarge iso for installing. I'll report back later. Any luck/news so far? - DISCLAIMER: This email is bound by the terms and conditions described at http://www.key.net/disclaimer.htm Yes, sorry I have written back yet. It wasn't a disk error. It was a grub issue. The grub from stable has no problem w/my HD but the one from sarge (0.95cvs...) does. I had to change the install command that setup (hd1,0) was using to get it working. Here's what I used: grub root (hd1,0) grub install /boot/grub/stage1 d (hd1,0) /boot/grub/stage2 p /boot/grub/menu.lst I had to add the d option b/c I think it was not locating my HD on boot. I hope that helps. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FC HBA on Debian
We currently use Emulex LP1050 cards(under windows). I didn't have any luck getting the binary drivers they provide for RHE working under Debian. Didn't find any info via google on using the emulex cards with debian. Was wondering if anyone had luck getting the Emulex cards to work under debian. I'm looking into get the Qlogic FC HBA QLA2340 as a replacement for the debian boxes. http://www.qlogic.com/support/product_resources.asp?id=253 I'm leaning towards purchasing the Qlogic QLA2340, as qlogic has gpld its drivers. Any recommendations for a different FC HBA or feedback on the QLogic cards would be appreciated. Thanks, Keith. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Unable to ping gateway
On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 18:16:20 +0200, Jacob Larsen wrote: Sergio Basurto wrote: can you ping the ethernet cards within the server? Yes. if you run shell~#ifconfig what is the output? # ifconfig bond0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:0F:20:7A:7A:53 inet addr:81.7.167.228 Bcast:81.255.255.255 Mask:255.255.255.240 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MASTER MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:1494 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:12 TX packets:809 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:21 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:112805 (110.1 KiB) TX bytes:99044 (96.7 KiB) eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:0F:20:7A:7A:53 inet addr:81.7.167.226 Bcast:81.255.255.255 Mask:255.255.255.240 UP BROADCAST RUNNING SLAVE MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:1037 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:6 TX packets:403 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:11 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:77395 (75.5 KiB) TX bytes:48278 (47.1 KiB) Interrupt:18 eth1 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:0F:20:7A:7A:52 inet addr:81.7.167.227 Bcast:81.255.255.255 Mask:255.255.255.240 UP BROADCAST RUNNING SLAVE MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:457 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:6 TX packets:406 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:10 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:35410 (34.5 KiB) TX bytes:50766 (49.5 KiB) Interrupt:19 loLink encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 RX packets:402 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:402 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:42547 (41.5 KiB) TX bytes:42547 (41.5 KiB) and if you run shell~#route -n what is the output? # route -n Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse Iface 81.7.167.2240.0.0.0 255.255.255.240 U 00 eth0 81.7.167.2240.0.0.0 255.255.255.240 U 00 eth1 81.7.167.2240.0.0.0 255.255.255.240 U 00 bond0 0.0.0.0 81.7.167.2250.0.0.0 UG 00 bond0 0.0.0.0 81.7.167.2250.0.0.0 UG 00 eth1 0.0.0.0 81.7.167.2250.0.0.0 UG 00 eth0 On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 17:14:51 +0200, Jacob Larsen wrote: I can ping my server, and the gateway from my home pc, but can not ping the gateway nor another server on the same subnet from the server. I use bond0 for eth0 and eth1. When I clear iptables there is no change. Any ideas? Which transmit policy are you using ? Round robin XOR Active-backup -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ing. Sergio Basurto Juárez Tel: 04455-85322945 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mouse: kernel 2.6.6 - 2.6.8 ???
What broke? What changed? I have been running 2.6x kernels on this legacy PPro box for most of this year -- first kernel-image-2.6.2-1-686, then kernel-image-2.6.6-2-686 -- without incident. Today, the only change I made was to install these: kernel-doc-2.6.8 kernel-headers-2.6.8-1-686 kernel-image-2.6.8-1-686 When I boot into this, the mouse cursor moves; but, is totally insane ; It gravitates to the left side of the screen, near randomly opens menus, and randomly selects menu items, and moves icons to different locations on the screen -- basically, there is no chance to function normally in KDE v3.2x. I have disabled gpm -- no change. # grep mouse /etc/modules mousedev psmouse .From /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 : Section InputDevice Identifier Configured Mouse Driver mouse Option CorePointer Option Device/dev/psaux Option Protocol ImPS/2 Option Emulate3Buttons true Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Generic Mouse Driver mouse Option SendCoreEventstrue # Option Device/dev/input/mice Option Device/dev/psaux Option Protocol ImPS/2 Option Emulate3Buttons true Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 EndSection Which brings up another question: How do I get a /dev/input/ ??? This box has been upgraded since Slink, and it has *no* /dev/input/ ; Anyway, what ought I to check? I have googled, and scoured debian archives. Mine is not any of the slew of mouse problems that I have found there. Reverting to kernel-image-2.6.6-2-686 -- the mouse is working as expected. What do you think? -- Best Regards, helices - Dare to fix things before they break . . . - Our capacity for understanding is inversely proportional to how much we think we know. The more I know, the more I know I don't know . . . -- signature.asc Description: Digital signature
xemacs auctex again....
A few days ago I wrote the following message to this list (unfortunately, as a sender unknown by the list): Context: Pentium 4, linux debian testing, kde. I've just installed xemacs21 to compile latex files under kde as I'm usually doing with emacs auctex in a console. But differently from emacs which displays a new menu when inputing a .tex file with the command menu the deb packaged xemacs21 doesn't modify the standard menu although it warns loading tex-mode DONE. What shall I do to make xemacs21 modify its menu as soon as a .tex file is loaded? Ciao - Vittorio Ralf Angeli from auctex mailing list answered suggesting to follow the instruction for the installation. Well here a phylosophical issue is coming up. As a debian user I would have expected that the boxed deb package had taken care automagically of all the installation issues as the other deb packages had done when I installed ESS and the support for perl in xemacs. From Ralf's suggestion I've now got the idea that as far as auctex is concerned the deb package doesn't do the installation completely. Am I right in this assumption? Besides, having read the html installation instructions coming with the boxed package, I've looked for the default.el file in my tree but I couldn't find it. Furthermore I've put the (require 'tex-site) line in my $HOME/.emacs file to no avail! Please help
Re: Unable to ping gateway
Sergio Basurto wrote: Which transmit policy are you using ? Round robin XOR Active-backup I have no idea. How can I find out? # cat /etc/modules # /etc/modules: kernel modules to load at boot time. # # This file should contain the names of kernel modules that are # to be loaded at boot time, one per line. Comments begin with # a #, and everything on the line after them are ignored. usb-ohci input usbkbd keybdev tg3 bonding miimon=250 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Unable to ping gateway
On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 18:16:20 +0200, Jacob Larsen wrote: Sergio Basurto wrote: can you ping the ethernet cards within the server? Yes. if you run shell~#ifconfig what is the output? # ifconfig bond0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:0F:20:7A:7A:53 inet addr:81.7.167.228 Bcast:81.255.255.255 Mask:255.255.255.240 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MASTER MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:1494 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:12 TX packets:809 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:21 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:112805 (110.1 KiB) TX bytes:99044 (96.7 KiB) eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:0F:20:7A:7A:53 inet addr:81.7.167.226 Bcast:81.255.255.255 Mask:255.255.255.240 UP BROADCAST RUNNING SLAVE MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:1037 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:6 TX packets:403 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:11 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:77395 (75.5 KiB) TX bytes:48278 (47.1 KiB) Interrupt:18 eth1 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:0F:20:7A:7A:52 inet addr:81.7.167.227 Bcast:81.255.255.255 Mask:255.255.255.240 UP BROADCAST RUNNING SLAVE MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:457 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:6 TX packets:406 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:10 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:35410 (34.5 KiB) TX bytes:50766 (49.5 KiB) Interrupt:19 loLink encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 RX packets:402 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:402 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:42547 (41.5 KiB) TX bytes:42547 (41.5 KiB) and if you run shell~#route -n what is the output? # route -n Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse Iface 81.7.167.2240.0.0.0 255.255.255.240 U 00 eth0 81.7.167.2240.0.0.0 255.255.255.240 U 00 eth1 81.7.167.2240.0.0.0 255.255.255.240 U 00 bond0 0.0.0.0 81.7.167.2250.0.0.0 UG 00 bond0 0.0.0.0 81.7.167.2250.0.0.0 UG 00 eth1 0.0.0.0 81.7.167.2250.0.0.0 UG 00 eth0 When bonding is set up with the ARP monitor, it is important that the slave devices not have routes that supercede routes of the master (or, generally, not have routes at all). For example, suppose the bonding device bond0 has two slaves, eth0 and eth1, and the routing table is as follows: Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags MSS Window irtt Iface 10.0.0.00.0.0.0 255.255.0.0 U 40 0 0 eth0 10.0.0.00.0.0.0 255.255.0.0 U 40 0 0 eth1 10.0.0.00.0.0.0 255.255.0.0 U 40 0 0 bond0 127.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 U 40 0 0 lo In this case, the ARP monitor (and ARP itself) may become confused, because ARP requests will be sent on one interface (bond0), but the corresponding reply will arrive on a different interface (eth0). This reply looks to ARP as an unsolicited ARP reply (because ARP matches replies on an interface basis), and is discarded. This will likely still update the receive/transmit times in the driver, but will lose packets. The resolution here is simply to insure that slaves do not have routes of their own, and if for some reason they must, those routes do not supercede routes of their master. This should generally be the case, but unusual configurations or errant manual or automatic static route additions may cause trouble. From:Linux Ethernet Bonding Driver mini-howto - On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 17:14:51 +0200, Jacob Larsen wrote: I can ping my server, and the gateway from my home pc, but can not ping the gateway nor another server on the same subnet from the server. I use bond0 for eth0 and eth1. When I clear iptables there is no change. Any ideas? Ing. Sergio Basurto Juárez Tel: 04455-85322945 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Unable to ping gateway
Depends on the value that you pass at mode parameter: mode=1 Active-backup policy, configuration not needed mode=0, mode=2, mode=3 it does need to be configured for Round robin, XOR and boradcast policies. On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 19:10:14 +0200, Jacob Larsen wrote: Sergio Basurto wrote: Which transmit policy are you using ? Round robin XOR Active-backup I have no idea. How can I find out? # cat /etc/modules # /etc/modules: kernel modules to load at boot time. # # This file should contain the names of kernel modules that are # to be loaded at boot time, one per line. Comments begin with # a #, and everything on the line after them are ignored. usb-ohci input usbkbd keybdev tg3 bonding miimon=250 Ing. Sergio Basurto Juárez Tel: 04455-85322945 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BIG mail box...
[This message has also been posted.] In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Grant wrote: Hey!. I setup qmail and courier imap last night... i also installed squirrelmail... which works fine! IF i have small mail boxes... Ps - there is abount 4000 mails in the box... Do you expect large mailboxes to be an ongoing issue? If not, use mailx to split the mailbox file, and move on. mailx -f /path/to/bigfatmailboxfile s 1-1999 /path/to/fragment1 s 2000-4000 /path/to/fragment2 d 1-4000 q Sometimes the oldest tools work best. Cameron -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Unable to ping gateway
Sergio Basurto wrote: When bonding is set up with the ARP monitor, it is important that the slave devices not have routes that supercede routes of the master (or, generally, not have routes at all). For example, suppose the bonding device bond0 has two slaves, eth0 and eth1, and the routing table is as follows: Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags MSS Window irtt Iface 10.0.0.00.0.0.0 255.255.0.0 U 40 0 0 eth0 10.0.0.00.0.0.0 255.255.0.0 U 40 0 0 eth1 10.0.0.00.0.0.0 255.255.0.0 U 40 0 0 bond0 127.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 U 40 0 0 lo In this case, the ARP monitor (and ARP itself) may become confused, because ARP requests will be sent on one interface (bond0), but the corresponding reply will arrive on a different interface (eth0). This reply looks to ARP as an unsolicited ARP reply (because ARP matches replies on an interface basis), and is discarded. This will likely still update the receive/transmit times in the driver, but will lose packets. The resolution here is simply to insure that slaves do not have routes of their own, and if for some reason they must, those routes do not supercede routes of their master. This should generally be the case, but unusual configurations or errant manual or automatic static route additions may cause trouble. From:Linux Ethernet Bonding Driver mini-howto - So the solution is to not set a gateway for eth0 and eth1, but only set it for bond0? Thanks, Jacob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
What iso files are people using for sarge?
Are you all using the weekly build isos or other isos to install sarge with? Also, is sarge installed with a 2.4 kernel and if so can it be changed to install with a 2.6 kernel? Thanks
Re: BIG mail box...
On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 10:11:16 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [This message has also been posted.] In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Grant wrote: Hey!. I setup qmail and courier imap last night... i also installed squirrelmail... which works fine! IF i have small mail boxes... Ps - there is abount 4000 mails in the box... Do you expect large mailboxes to be an ongoing issue? If not, use mailx to split the mailbox file, and move on. mailx -f /path/to/bigfatmailboxfile s 1-1999 /path/to/fragment1 s 2000-4000 /path/to/fragment2 d 1-4000 q Sometimes the oldest tools work best. Yes, except he mentioned qmail and courier-imap. Both very strong indications that he's using Maildir format, not mbox. Jacob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Unable to ping gateway
Sergio Basurto wrote: Depends on the value that you pass at mode parameter: mode=1 Active-backup policy, configuration not needed mode=0, mode=2, mode=3 it does need to be configured for Round robin, XOR and boradcast policies. Do you know which one is the default? I remember when I set bonding miimon=250 mode=1 in /etc/modules I couldn't make it work. Thanks, Jacob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: glibc 2.3 and updated gcc for woody
On Sun, Sep 19, 2004 at 05:30:24PM -0700, Stefan O'Rear wrote: On Sun, Sep 19, 2004 at 05:20:50PM -0700, Cole S. Ashcraft wrote: Is there an updated version of glibc (2.3) and gcc for woody? Thanks, Cole There is no updated anything for woody. But, you can install the libc6, libdb1_compat, gcc-3.3, etc from woody: ~/homework/2004/09 %% dpkg -s libc6 gcc-3.3 base-files ; cat /etc/debian_version Package: libc6 ... Version: 2.3.2-4 ... Package: gcc-3.3 ... Version: 1:3.3.2-0pre2 ... Donno how you got those but woody does not include gcc-3.3, gcc 3.3 was released long after woody. Sven -- It ain't so bad bein' alone if you know it'll never last nothing lasts forever 'cept the certainly of change and love's the same It's a game with simple rules If you think it's forever then you're nothing but a fool [Venerea - Love Is A Battlefield Of Wounded Hearts] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Unable to ping gateway
On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 19:38:20 +0200, Jacob Larsen wrote: Sergio Basurto wrote: When bonding is set up with the ARP monitor, it is important that the slave devices not have routes that supercede routes of the master (or, generally, not have routes at all). For example, suppose the bonding device bond0 has two slaves, eth0 and eth1, and the routing table is as follows: Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags MSS Window irtt Iface 10.0.0.00.0.0.0 255.255.0.0 U 40 0 0 eth0 10.0.0.00.0.0.0 255.255.0.0 U 40 0 0 eth1 10.0.0.00.0.0.0 255.255.0.0 U 40 0 0 bond0 127.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 U 40 0 0 lo In this case, the ARP monitor (and ARP itself) may become confused, because ARP requests will be sent on one interface (bond0), but the corresponding reply will arrive on a different interface (eth0). This reply looks to ARP as an unsolicited ARP reply (because ARP matches replies on an interface basis), and is discarded. This will likely still update the receive/transmit times in the driver, but will lose packets. The resolution here is simply to insure that slaves do not have routes of their own, and if for some reason they must, those routes do not supercede routes of their master. This should generally be the case, but unusual configurations or errant manual or automatic static route additions may cause trouble. From:Linux Ethernet Bonding Driver mini-howto - So the solution is to not set a gateway for eth0 and eth1, but only set it for bond0? Thanks, Jacob Yes, But you also could have gw for your eth's cards, but you must assure that those routes do not supercede the bond0. If this do not help you can consult a good doc at: http://ece.wpi.edu/pit/rowitsch/linux-2.4.21/Documentation/networking/bonding.txt Kind Regards Ing. Sergio Basurto Juárez Tel: 04455-85322945 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Unable to ping gateway
On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 19:42:13 +0200, Jacob Larsen wrote: Sergio Basurto wrote: Depends on the value that you pass at mode parameter: mode=1 Active-backup policy, configuration not needed mode=0, mode=2, mode=3 it does need to be configured for Round robin, XOR and boradcast policies. Do you know which one is the default? I remember when I set bonding miimon=250 mode=1 in /etc/modules I couldn't make it work. Thanks, Jacob I'm not quite sure but I think is 1. Ing. Sergio Basurto Juárez Tel: 04455-85322945 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
parallel port using lots of CPU
When I print graphics my parallel port consumes all available CPU. Admittedly the jobs are large (40-90MG), but it seems odd so much attention is required. Is something wrong, or do I just have to live with it? 2.4.26 kernel on Athlon CPU. Lexmark Optra E310 is the printer; it speaks postscript natively. Gigabyte GA-7IXE4 motherboard; the parallel port is on the board. Originally I was using lpd in the lpr package. With that, lpd showed as the CPU consumer. I just switched to CUPS; now parallel:/dev/lp0 shows as the CPU consumer. My guess is that it was before, but the time was just being attributed to lpd. P.S. Maybe it is a hardware limitation; under Windows NT the parallel got a kind of odd treatment, including the fact that the driver had to poll it and some utilities couldn't use it, though they could under Win95. I always thought it was just an NT quirk. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What iso files are people using for sarge?
On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 10:38:49 -0700 Matthew Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you all using the weekly build isos or other isos to install sarge with? Also, is sarge installed with a 2.4 kernel and if so can it be changed to install with a 2.6 kernel? I've done 2 or 3 clean Sarge installs in the past month. Each time I have downloaded a daily build of the debian-installer and used it. That way I only have to download 35 - 100MB (depending on which version of the installer you want to use) to have a cd I can boot from and start the installation. (I downloaded a new iso each time as one of the installs was a Sparc and the other a x86.) If the installer does not recognize your network setup, you will find the full installer more helpful than the businesscard image. This way you only have to download the software you want to use, instead of the full 13CDs for Sarge (I think that's the size I heard for Sarge... haven't had a reason to check). When using the Debian-Installer, enter expert26 at the boot prompt and it will install a 2.6 kernel for you. There are other options for a 2.6 kernel as well, if you don't want to be in expert mode. I forget what they are, but the installer will tell you which Fn key to press to see the list of choices. HTH, Jacob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Getting notification about new posts to a bug
Hello, Is is possible to get notification about new posts to a bug (or even these posts) to my e-mail address? I'm watching a bug and I want to be immediately told about new posts to it. I tried by sending send 271235 to [EMAIL PROTECTED], but this only sent me the complete log of the bug. I'm not receiving new posts. I think I'm just missing something. But what? Thank you, Andrei -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] # http://movzx.net # ICQ: 52641547 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: xemacs auctex again....
On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 19:20:09 +0200, Vittorio wrote: What shall I do to make xemacs21 modify its menu as soon as a .tex file is loaded? Ah, emacs and xemacs are 2 slightly different beasts. The simplest solution would be to replace xemacs with emacs-x11, which is the same as your console emacs, but with X11 support as well. This is what I use on the odd times I need ot monkey about with latex. -- Stephen Patterson http://patter.mine.nu/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] remove SPAM to reply Linux Counter No: 142831 GPG Public key: 252B8B37 Caution: breathing may be hazardous to your health. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
GNOME Volume Manager / HAL issues
Hi, Since a recent update of hal and or GNOME Volume manager two of my disk partitions get mounted automatically and show up on the desktop. Both these partitions I added to fstab with a noauto option so that they normally didn't get mounted. I'd prefer gnome volume manager not to mount these two drives automatically. Anybody knows how I can get that done. Question number 2. HAL can automatically update /etc/fstab but I can't find out how I can this to work. Jaap BTW I'm running a totally uptodate Debian sid -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
`who -d' Dead processes
Hello I had a computer (old PC) running at my student house over the holidays and was using it (as I am now) to ssh into and do my normal work etc. Just by accident I discovered the `who -d' command and saw I had a couple of 100 processes listed that way. Also they where using up my pty's. Coz I was scared of running out of pty's I rebooted the system since then. But I get again lots of dead processes. The thing is that afaik these processes should be connected to init at some point and then cleaned up. But the oldest such process was about 28 days old at the time of discovery. This is what made me concerned. If I can list them, can't I clean them up? And why doesn't init do it by itself? Floris -- Debian GNU/Linux -- The power of freedom www.debian.org | www.gnu.org | www.kernel.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ls: sorting directories before files
i can influence sorting with LC_COLLATE, but i have not found an answer to this: how can i make /bin/ls sort directories before files? there seems to be no such option in ls, and writing a function to pipe it through sort opens all kinds of worms, including screwing up dircolors. any tips appreciated! -- Please do not CC me when replying to lists; I read them! .''`. martin f. krafft [EMAIL PROTECTED] : :' :proud Debian developer, admin, and user `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fixing a system Invalid/expired PGP subkeys? Use subkeys.pgp.net as keyserver! signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [exim4debian] Re: Debian-exim - blech!
On Mon, Sep 20, 2004 at 01:07:52PM +0200, Marc Haber wrote: On Mon, Sep 20, 2004 at 09:48:43AM +0100, Oliver Elphick wrote: mail is and always has been a standard system account: mail is also the account that owns the mail spool, hence all MUAs run sgid mail per policy. Running the MTA as mail as well would mean that the MTA's queue would have to belong to mail as well, giving MUAs read access to the MTA's queue, which is a significant security risk. That's funny, none of the MUA's on my debian systems are sgid mail, nor is anything of the kind written in the debian policy that I can see. nor of files that exim4 did not install. So we shouldn't purge the mail queue and hints database? Since policy requires a purged package to vanish without leaving any trace of its installation, that would be a policy violation. Huh? There is no such policy. The policy defines purge as removing everything in it's file list except conffiles, and since the package's file list could not possibly contain files created post installation, it cannot delete anything in the system mail directory. -- _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ ( t | i | m | @ | i | t | . | k | p | t | . | c | c ) \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ GPG key fingerprint = 1DEE CD9B 4808 F608 FBBF DC21 2807 D7D3 09CA 85BF -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What iso files are people using for sarge?
On Tuesday 21 September 2004 04:05, Jacob S wrote: This way you only have to download the software you want to use, instead of the full 13CDs for Sarge (I think that's the size I heard for Sarge... haven't had a reason to check). It's 14 cds now or 2 dvds. Bob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: `who -d' Dead processes
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Floris Bruynooghe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had a computer (old PC) running at my student house over the holidays and was using it (as I am now) to ssh into and do my normal work etc. Just by accident I discovered the `who -d' command and saw I had a couple of 100 processes listed that way. Also they where using up my pty's. Coz I was scared of running out of pty's I rebooted the system since then. But I get again lots of dead processes. Are you sure those dead processes actually exist .. who -d doesn't list dead processes. who -d lists empty slots in the /var/run/utmp file. Mike. -- In times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. -- George Orwell. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: `who -d' Dead processes
--- Floris Bruynooghe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Hello - I had a computer (old PC) running at my student house over the holidays and was using it (as I am now) to ssh into and do my normal work etc. Just by accident I discovered the `who -d' command and saw I had a couple of 100 processes listed that way. Also they where using up my pty's. Coz I was scared of running out of pty's I rebooted the system since then. But I get again lots of dead processes. You say Dead (I assume state 'D'). The thing is that afaik these processes should be connected to init at some point and then cleaned up. But the oldest such process was about 28 days old at the time of discovery. This is what made me concerned. If I can list them, can't I clean them up? And why doesn't init do it by itself? It's not down to init, it is down to the kernel. But the only way you can clear this up is by killing the parent process of the dead processes (pstree helps here). If this is happening on a regular basis, then the error is something else, _possibly_ hardware. Note that if the parent process is indeed init (which it shouldn't be - it ought to be the shell that you execute the 'who -d' command from), then there is no way of killing that properly. -- Thomas Adam = The Linux Weekend Mechanic -- http://linuxgazette.net TAG Editor -- http://linuxgazette.net shrug We'll just save up your sins, Thomas, and punish you for all of them at once when you get better. The experience will probably kill you. :) -- Benjamin A. Okopnik (Linux Gazette Technical Editor) ___ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
