Re: Re: E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)

[[KS]]

Thanks for the advice Adam. Everything was fine after
waiting a couple of days.
openoffice.org-mimelnk_1.1.2-4_all.deb didn't cause
any errors then.

Thanks.
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Re: Why Grub? Must I Switch?

[Anthony Campbell]

On 03 Oct 2004, Daniel L. Miller wrote:
> Paul Johnson wrote:
> 
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> >Marc Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> > 
> >
> >>On Sun, Oct 03, 2004 at 08:22:28AM -0700, Jonathan Byrne wrote:
> >>   
> >>
> >>>- With grub,  the boot process will never freeze at LI
> >>> 
> >>>
> >>Sure, instead it'll freeze at stage 1.5.  Hardly an improvement.
> >>   
> >>
> >
> >But how often does that happen?  I've never seen it myself.
> >
> > 
> >
> I have, unfortunately.  I have a machine that just doesn't wanna work 
> from a hard drive boot - but it works fine from CD or floppy.  Both LILO 
> and Grub fail.
[snip] 

I prefer to avoid all such risks by having a small DOS partition and
booting from that with loadlin.exe. I did this originally because I
still needed to run some DOS programs. I no longer do this but I'd
always keep a small DOS partition just for ease of booting and safety.

If you feel unhappy at giving space to MS you could use FreeDOS, but
I've found that to be fairly buggy. I salve my conscience by reflecting
that Mr Gates didn't originally write DOS anyway.

Anthony


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Re: swapping master & slave HDs: what to change? (solved - pls comment!)

[SpamHog]

Alvin Oga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> if of is the new target disk, it will wipe out your partition table of
> your new disk ( bs=446 or bs=448 is better ) if you want to preserve
> the partitions on the target disk

I'd never advocate if = source disk, of = destination disk with
bs=512!  That was in the BACKUP section, so that one could return to
the status quo ante in case of shit | fan.

Interesting point: what's in bytes 447 and 448?

BR from SpamHog


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Re: remote backup

[Daniel Pittman]

On 4 Oct 2004, Nick Hastings wrote:
> * Daniel Pittman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [041004 10:09]:
>> On 2 Oct 2004, Jerome BENOIT wrote:
>>> I would like my desktop (an openbrick) to backup via the net
>>> my laptop once it is connected:
>>> what is the best way to do so ?
>>
>> My recommendation would be the 'BackupPC' package, found in testing and
>> unstable.  That will happily produce long term archival backups of the
>> laptop, and can dump to tape, etc, for off-line storage as well.
>
> Thanks for pointing out this package. I've just installed it and it
> seems quite nice. 
>
> I have a question about this package, and was unable to find the answer
> (or even the question) in the documentation, FAQs or on google.
>
> I suffer from a small /var partition... (if only there was SPAM with a
> pill for that), and BackupPC wants to put all the backups in
> /var/lib/backuppc/pc. It seems there is no way to tell BackupPC to use a
> different location. 

No, their isn't.

> The simple "fix" was to just symlink this directory to somewhere else.
> This seems to work ok, except that BackupPC continues to look in /var
> to determine how much space it has available.
>
> Does anyone have a proper solution to this problem?

Mount the storage location as /var/lib/backuppc.

If you can't find a spare partition for it, use a bind mount:

] mkdir /storage/backupc
] mount --bind /storage/backuppc /var/lib/backuppc

Allocating a distinct partition is by far the best solution since, as
with many similar tools, BackupPC may grow to consume all the inodes or
data blocks on the volume.

It tries, unlike many tools, to avoid doing so, but there are limits to
that.  A dedicate volume reduces the load on both sides.

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Re: swapping master & slave HDs: dd bs=446

[Alvin Oga]

hi ya spamhog  ( cute )

On 4 Oct 2004, SpamHog wrote:

> Interesting point: what's in bytes 447 and 448?

- the boot records ( MBR ) is 512 bytes total
 
- there is only 4 primary partitions ... each is 16 bytes
( 64 bytes is the total number of bytes needed to 
( define your primary partitions 
( logical boot info is stored elswhere

- a bootable partition ( if it is used/set ) is aa55 ( 2 more bytes )

512 - 64 -2 is 446 

to create a bootable without using grub/lilo/syslinux/loadlin...

# dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hdc bs=446 sync

where /dev/hda is a working boot disk

where /dev/hdc is a new disk you want to start booting off of
before making /dev/hda go bye-bye

c ya
alvin


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Re: Help

[Francois Cerbelle]

Le Sun, Oct 03, 2004 at 11:01:53PM +0200, Olav Sindre Vik Støylen ecrit :
> I've just installed Debian on my computer laptop, but the screen size is 
> disapointingly small..
> What can i do, i've searched all over the web for drivers, but cannot find 
> anything.
> I have a "Standard PCI graphic card".

Try using framebuffer. You should try to add a parameter to the kernel
line either in /etc/lilo.conf, cut and paste the default section,
renamme the copy and add the following line to it before running
"lilo" and rebooting :
vga=0x315

or in /boot/grub/menu.lst, add a new alternative (a special comment
line) in the file with the option "vga=0x315" and run the script
"upgrade-grub"

To know the different possible values, consult the
/usr/share/doc/kernel-documentation/Documentation/fb/vesafb.txt
(apt-get install kernel-doc-x.y.z)

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Re: Sendmail Install Dramas

[David Powell]

Andrea Vettorello wrote:
On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 21:01:56 +1000, David Powell
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Is this a Woody system? Have you looked in the Debian BTS (bug
tracking system) if this is a known problem/bug?
Hmmm, good question.  I think it is a Woody.  I can tell you for sure
that the kernel is 2.6.7.
The first thing to try is to "dpkg --configure --pending" (man dpkg
for the details) and then you can try to fix your system with "apt-get
-f install" or manually installing sendmail.
Tried that, it just returns an error:
dpkg: error processing sendmail-base (--configure):
subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
If this don't woks, you need to increase the dpkg verbosity level to
look where the problem is...
Thanks, can you tell me how I'd do that (increase the verbosity).  My
guess is dpkg --debug=2000?
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Re: apache2 install problems

[Urs Thuermann]

Marcos Carneiro da Rocha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Try to apt-get install apache2-mpm-prefork instead of apache2.
> apache2 is a virtual package to another package but there is a conflict
> between apache2-mpm-prefork and apace2-mpm-worker and
> apache2-mpm-perchild - you should choose one of these.

Ah, thanks, that seems to work.


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Re: Sendmail Install Dramas

[Andrea Vettorello]

On Mon, 04 Oct 2004 19:56:51 +1000, David Powell
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Andrea Vettorello wrote:
> > On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 21:01:56 +1000, David Powell
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Is this a Woody system? Have you looked in the Debian BTS (bug
> > tracking system) if this is a known problem/bug?
> 
> Hmmm, good question.  I think it is a Woody.  I can tell you for sure
> that the kernel is 2.6.7.
> 

I'll look /etc/issue, or for sure in your /etc/apt/sources.list for
stable, testing, unstable. I suppose you are running Sarge (testing)
or Sid (unstable), because without backporting  module-init-tools and
other support packages to Woody, you can't run 2.6.x kernels.

> > The first thing to try is to "dpkg --configure --pending" (man dpkg
> > for the details) and then you can try to fix your system with "apt-get
> > -f install" or manually installing sendmail.
> 
> Tried that, it just returns an error:
> dpkg: error processing sendmail-base (--configure):
> subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
> 
> > If this don't woks, you need to increase the dpkg verbosity level to
> > look where the problem is...
> 
> Thanks, can you tell me how I'd do that (increase the verbosity).  My
> guess is dpkg --debug=2000?
> 

I think 200 or 400 should be enough, anyway have you looked in the Debian BTS?

Here 
(http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?which=pkg&data=sendmail-base&archive=no)
are reported a couple of problems ugrading (one is solved =)...


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Re: apt-upgrading Bluefish (not) ?

[Clemens Schwaighofer]

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>>>  
>>>404 Not Found
> 
> 
> Did you run 'apt-get update' before dist-upgrading?
> 

debian mentors binary mirrors are no more. Only source is left.

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Re: broken cd-rw drive

[Ulisses Reina Montenegro de Albuquerque]

David Fokkema wrote:
Hi group,
I broke my cd-rw drive. I really hope this has nothing to do with a
possible bug in linux and/or cdrecord. Here's my story...
 

[snip]
There has been a single case of confirmed CD-RW hardware malfunctioning 
due to software bugs related to Linux, and it was due to questionable 
use of ATAPI codes by LG, and it only affected LG CD-ROM drives under 
Mandrake 9.2 (which shipped with a patched kernel image that queried the 
hardware through the use of the above-mentioned ATAPI codes). You can 
check on that: http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/lgerrata.php3

I don't want to sound like a zealot, but your situation does not sound 
at all like it was caused by software. I know you tried not to sound 
like you are blaming Debian/Linux for what happened, but please try to 
exhaust all possibilities before coming up with the usual "well, this 
was the only thing I changed, so it must be the cause of my problem" 
approach.

Cheers, and good luck findind a replacement drive.
Ulisses
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Re: broken cd-rw drive

[David Fokkema]

On Mon, Oct 04, 2004 at 09:58:28AM -0300, Ulisses Reina Montenegro de Albuquerque 
wrote:
> David Fokkema wrote:
> 
> >Hi group,
> >
> >I broke my cd-rw drive. I really hope this has nothing to do with a
> >possible bug in linux and/or cdrecord. Here's my story...
> > 
> >
> [snip]
> 
> There has been a single case of confirmed CD-RW hardware malfunctioning 
> due to software bugs related to Linux, and it was due to questionable 
> use of ATAPI codes by LG, and it only affected LG CD-ROM drives under 
> Mandrake 9.2 (which shipped with a patched kernel image that queried the 
> hardware through the use of the above-mentioned ATAPI codes). You can 
> check on that: http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/lgerrata.php3

So there is a confirmed case, but these drives could be recovered. No
real physical damage here, :-)

> I don't want to sound like a zealot, but your situation does not sound 
> at all like it was caused by software.

>From time to time, my family/friends tell me, I _do_ sound like a
zealot.

> I know you tried not to sound like you are blaming Debian/Linux for
> what happened, but please try to exhaust all possibilities before
> coming up with the usual "well, this was the only thing I changed, so
> it must be the cause of my problem" approach.

On the contrary. This wasn't my approach at all. But then, as it
happened while I was switching kernel modules etc., I want to absolutely
make sure it is _not_ caused by software so I can wholeheartedly yell at
the support people when (if) they tell me they don't support linux and
well, it was not recommended to run that anyway, so warranty is void.

> Cheers, and good luck findind a replacement drive.

Thanks!

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input layer of the linux kernel

[Paul Akkermans]

Hi group,
 
I have to analyze the input layer of the linux 
kernel for a schoolassignment. My question is: How big (how many files) is this 
input layer? And where can I find all these files. I have kernel 2.4.18 
installed on my debian system. Can anybody help me?
 
Thanks in advance,
 
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acroread plugin?

[Nikita V. Youshchenko]

Hello.

Could anyone got acrobat reader 5.09 plugin (either from adobe site or from 
Christian Marillat's unofficial debs) working OK on sarge either in 
mozilla or konqueror?

For me, it's window becomes broken on browser window resize.

P.S.
I know about alternative PDF viewers, this question is about acroread.


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Gnome Log Out

[Hans Gubitz]

Sorry, I think it's not Debian-specific, but 

When I log out from a Gnome-Session there is a small menu:
- ...
- shut down
- rebooting

How can I disable these entries?

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/etc/init.d/devpts.sh is missing..

[Eric Dickner]

Hello,

I must have deleted this somehow screwing with my
system.  There is a link from /etc/rcS.d/S35devpts.sh
over to it that is broken.

Can someone please post this script for me?

Thanks,

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making tk and wx(python) prettier

[Matt Price]

Hi folks,

I think I'm like most people in that, when I run "straight" x programs
(for me this includds xpdf, acroread, and little scripts I've written
or downloaded using Tk or wxPython) the output is aesthetically
pretty unpleasing.  THis doesn't really bother me, but I noticed when
downoading one wxPython utility that the screenshots from MacOSX were
gorgeous, while the program, when it ran on my Xfce4 desktop, was
actually pretty hard to read on the screen.  So I wondered whether I
can set default display fonts and other settings to improve the look
of these programs.  Anyone know whether I'm asking the impossible?

thanks,

Matt

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Re: Kooka/xsane only see scanner as root

[Hugo Vanwoerkom]

Jonathan Byrne wrote:
I'm running Sid, 2.6.8-1 kernel.  I don't often use my scanner,
and today was the first time since I moved to the 2.6 kernel.
Running as root, scanimage -L correctly shows:
device `epson:libusb:002:004' is a Epson GT-8200 flatbed scanner
sane-find-scanner correctly shows:
found USB scanner (vendor=0x04b8 [EPSON], product=0x0110 [EPSON 
Scanner]) at libusb:002:004

However, if I run either of those as my regular userid, they find
nothing.  So, of course, do kooka and xsane.  If I run them with
sudo, everything works fine.

And the regular user is a member of the scanner group?

This certainly smells like a permissions problem, but for the life
of me, I can't figure out with what.  /dev/usb/scanner* are owned
by root.root but are world readable/writeable, so it must be
somewhere else.
Thanks in advance for any ideas,
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Re: /etc/init.d/devpts.sh is missing..

[Andreas Janssen]

Hello

Eric Dickner (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:

> I must have deleted this somehow screwing with my
> system.  There is a link from /etc/rcS.d/S35devpts.sh
> over to it that is broken.
> 
> Can someone please post this script for me?

cd /etc/rcS.d
ln -s ../init.d/devpts S35devpts

Byt the way, on my system the file does not exist as well. Neither
does /etc/init.d/devpts. Check if /etc/init.d/mountvirtfs
and /etc/rcS.d/S36mountvirtfs are there.

best regards
 Andreas Janssen

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Re: making tk and wx(python) prettier

[Michael Marsh]

On Mon, 4 Oct 2004 10:23:43 -0400, Matt Price <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I think I'm like most people in that, when I run "straight" x programs
> (for me this includds xpdf, acroread, and little scripts I've written
> or downloaded using Tk or wxPython) the output is aesthetically
> pretty unpleasing.  THis doesn't really bother me, but I noticed when
> downoading one wxPython utility that the screenshots from MacOSX were
> gorgeous, while the program, when it ran on my Xfce4 desktop, was
> actually pretty hard to read on the screen.  So I wondered whether I
> can set default display fonts and other settings to improve the look
> of these programs.  Anyone know whether I'm asking the impossible?

To some extent.  For programs like xpdf that use standard X resources
for various aspects of their display style, you can add something like

*fontList: your_favorite_font

to your .Xdefaults/.Xresources file.  I don't know if Tk or acroread
respect this, though.  You might also try wm-specific settings.

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Re: making tk and wx(python) prettier

[Stefan O'Rear]

On Mon, Oct 04, 2004 at 10:23:43AM -0400, Matt Price wrote:
> Hi folks,
> 
> I think I'm like most people in that, when I run "straight" x programs
> (for me this includds xpdf, acroread, and little scripts I've written
> or downloaded using Tk or wxPython) the output is aesthetically
> pretty unpleasing.  THis doesn't really bother me, but I noticed when
> downoading one wxPython utility that the screenshots from MacOSX were
> gorgeous, while the program, when it ran on my Xfce4 desktop, was
> actually pretty hard to read on the screen.  So I wondered whether I
> can set default display fonts and other settings to improve the look
> of these programs.  Anyone know whether I'm asking the impossible?

If you're talking Xt programs, X resources might be what you want.  Make
a file ~/.Xdefaults, and put your customizations in it.

Here's an example:

# Update once a second
XClock*update: 1
# Don't steal focus
XClock.input: false
# Use a white background
XClock*background: white
# For -digital, use a very big font
XClock*font: -adobe-courier-bold-r-normal--24-*-100-100-m-*-iso8859-1
# Beep every half hour
XClock*chime: true
# Be in the bottom left corner of the screen
XClock*geometry: 154x154+0-0


As for specifics, you might try:

*font: -adobe-helvetica-medium-r-normal--28-*-100-100-*-*-iso8859-1

or the like.

man 7 X

man 

Xprogram & editres

may be useful.

Note that X resources are not respected by all programs.

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Re: Gnome Log Out

[Andrea Vettorello]

On Mon, 4 Oct 2004 15:42:28 +0200, Hans Gubitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sorry, I think it's not Debian-specific, but 
> 
> When I log out from a Gnome-Session there is a small menu:
> - ...
> - shut down
> - rebooting
> 

Not sure, but i think you can do it trough GDM, or look if there some
gconf options...


Andrea


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Re: acroread plugin?

[Jule Slootbeek]

It works fine for me in mozilla-firefox
-JSS
Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote:
Hello.
Could anyone got acrobat reader 5.09 plugin (either from adobe site or from 
Christian Marillat's unofficial debs) working OK on sarge either in 
mozilla or konqueror?

For me, it's window becomes broken on browser window resize.
P.S.
I know about alternative PDF viewers, this question is about acroread.

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Re: making tk and wx(python) prettier

[Andrea Vettorello]

On Mon, 4 Oct 2004 10:23:43 -0400, Matt Price <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi folks,
> 
> I think I'm like most people in that, when I run "straight" x programs
> (for me this includds xpdf, acroread, and little scripts I've written
> or downloaded using Tk or wxPython) the output is aesthetically
> pretty unpleasing.  THis doesn't really bother me, but I noticed when
> downoading one wxPython utility that the screenshots from MacOSX were
> gorgeous, while the program, when it ran on my Xfce4 desktop, was
> actually pretty hard to read on the screen.  So I wondered whether I
> can set default display fonts and other settings to improve the look
> of these programs.  Anyone know whether I'm asking the impossible?
> 

wxWidget (was wxWindows) on Debian use Gtk1.2 as backend, and if you
are running some Gtk2.x application you'll find noticeable
differences, like missing antialiasing of text and probably a
different Gtk theme...


Andrea


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Re: Why Grub? Must I Switch? - Thanks

[Thomas H. George]

Thanks for all the insightful discussion.  I now understand the
differences and may switch to Grub in the future.  For the present I
have a number of other pressing projects that have priority.

Also, the though I have frequently rebuilt kernels the only time I was
plagued with boot hangups it turned out to be a hardware problem.  This
is probably because I'm not doing anything terribly sophisticated that
might cause such hangups.  At any rate I had no trouble fixing the
problem and regaining control with the aid of bbc-2.1.  I don't have the
business card.  I just downloaded it from www.lnx-bbc.org and burnt a
cd.  Large or small, I think it is neat.

Tom George


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Re: input layer of the linux kernel

[Eric Gaumer]

On Mon, 2004-10-04 at 06:11, Paul Akkermans wrote:
> Hi group,
>  
> I have to analyze the input layer of the linux kernel for a
> schoolassignment. My question is: How big (how many files) is this
> input layer? And where can I find all these files. I have kernel
> 2.4.18 installed on my debian system. Can anybody help me?
>  
> Thanks in advance,
>  
> Paul Akkermans

Well, every input device driver is considered part of the input layer. I
think you are more interested in the input core.

You can find the input core in drivers/input under your source tree.
It's small enough to grasp (the input core is a single file with a few
supporting files). Definitely easier to trace than the Linux memory
manager ;-)

The 2.6 kernel has major changes to the input layer so I would recommend
using it as opposed to 2.4.

If you have further questions you can post them on the kernel mailing
list. You could also ask the maintainer of the input layer (Vojtech
Pavlik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) about design decisions.

Here is a link you may find useful. It's a priceless tool when it comes
to tracing kernel code you're unfamiliar with. I think you'll find it
useful for what you have to do.

http://lxr.linux.no/
 

-- 
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Re: NOT ANSWERED asus a7n8x built in nic and intel pro 100 S nic

[Justin Guerin]

On Friday 01 October 2004 16:47, Ian L wrote:
[snip]
> However, using that older version of debian i just installed it fine and
> it booted up fine. I have one probably though in trying to upgrade this
> version ... how do i upgrade it without a working network card? i tried
> installing the 2.6.8 kernel package before but there was a never ending
> list of package dependencies which made it a PITA to try and upgrade. Can
> i download all the packages from somewhere, burn them to cd and then let
> apt upgrade using the cdrom as the source?
>
> thanks again for the help
>
> Ian

Yes, you can.  You can download the cd images using jigdo (if you have a 
working Debian computer with a network), or just download the full iso, 
then run apt-cdrom to add them to your sources.list file.  You can then 
update and upgrade your system.  See http://www.debian.org/distrib/cd for 
detailed instructions on the many ways to obtain CD images, if you can't 
use jigdo for some reason (like it isn't installed or your only Debian 
machine is the one without networking).

You can also use the CD you installed from to install extra software. You 
might want to look into apt-zip, though I don't have any experience with 
it.

Justin Guerin


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Re: If ATI and nVidia don't support their own products, who does?

[Wim De Smet]

On Sun, 03 Oct 2004 19:32:37 -0700, Paul Johnson
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> <#secure method=pgp mode=sign>
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
> 
> Wim De Smet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > You're looking at it wrong. Nobody really wants them to open source
> > their driver. Okay maybe because it's easier. But people really want
> > to be able to write their own driver.
> 
> And they can still do that, nobody's stopping them.  All we (at least
> RMS and Iare in the same boat, and likely thousands of others) ask is
> that we get those drivers under a license that meets the DFSG and
> doesn't make us run through tons of extra hoops and user-hostile
> licensing.

I'm not sure I understand what you're saying. The whole reason that
there are no free drivers is that it is enormously difficult to
reverse engineer a display driver. 2D might very well be doable but it
takes some effort and you will probably never get the same speed a
nvidia engineer could (since he knows what is in the hardware).
Getting 3D to work (and work fast) is even harder and the same
restrictions apply. All we should ask is the information we need about
the hardware. But nVidia is afraid that this might give too much of an
insight into their techniques to ATI, and vice versa. There is a core
of truth in that.

greets,
Wim


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using scp to move files

[Kamaraju Kusumanchi]

Hi all
   Very simple question but I cannot find the answer in google
(possibly wrong keywords).

   I need to move some files from a server to client. I am planning to
use scp for this. Using scp, I can only copy the files. But I want to
move the files instead of copying them. Any ideas? The manual of scp
does not have any option for this.

Are there any other programs which achieve the same result?

thanks
raju


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كيف تستعد لرمضان

[الملتقى الإسلامى]

إشراقة
كيف تستعـد لرمضـان ؟
هـل فكرت كيف تجعل من رمضان
هذه السنة شيئا مختلفا ؟
كل رمضان وأنتم إلى الله أقــرب
يأتي رمضان كل عام ، وينتظرهالمسلمون بكل لهفة وشوق وبهجة ..
رمضان هو شهر انتصار الإنسان بكل ما تعنيهذه الكلمة من معني...
انتصار علي الشيطان ، انتصار علي الشهوات ، انتصار عليالسيئات ، انتصار نفخة الروح
علي طينة الأرض.
فهـل أعددت العدة لذلكحتى تحل
البركة في حياتك؟؟؟
كيف يتحقق لك الانتصار في شهرالروحانيات؟
لمزيد من التفاصيل زورونا في قسم" رمضانيات "بموقع " إشراقة "
وإشراقة ... صالون أدبي/ فكري علي شبكة الإنترنت يتناول مختلف فروع المعرفة التي
تربط بين الدين والحياة.
وهـو إشراقة علي المعرفةالإسلامية الصحيحة الممتزجة بالنورانية والقلب السليم 
الموصول
بالله.
كما يقدم  موقع إشراقة خدمة الإنترنت ذات السرعة المتميزة من خلال رقم 07772721
وجوائز شهرية متنوعة...لمزيد من التفاصيل اضغط هنا ,جوائز شهرية أخري لمسابقات 
ثقافية إسلاميةمتنوعة

http://www.ishraqa.com
 - رمضانيات" قسم خاص بمناسبة شهر رمضان" 
 - مقالات لكبار الكتاب فيمختلف التخصصات
 - موضوعات إسلامية واجتماعية متنوعة ممتزجة بالدين والحياة
 - قسم خاصبالروحانيات
- الجديد فيعالم المعرفة
- قسم خاصللإعجازالعلميوآخر للمجمع العلميلبحوث القرآن والسنة يتضمن
أهم المحاضرات والأبحاثفي الإعجاز العلمي.
 - كل ما يهم المرأةوالطفلوبيت العائلة
- قسم خاصلإبداعات الشبابونرحب بإبداعات الشباب من شعر وقصة ومقال
- " مشكلات من الحياة "قسم يتناول مشكلات نفسية واجتماعية من نبض الحياة وتقديم
المعالجة الإسلاميةلها ( وجميع المشكلات المطروحة تنشر في جريدة اللواء الإسلامي/
باب " دعوةللتواصل "
 - والجديد فيعالم الاقتصاد
- قسم خاص بالمعرفة الطبيةالتيتتعلق بالصحة العامة ومقالات طبية لكبار الأطباء
في مختلف التخصصات
وغيرها من الأقسام الأخرى المفيدة النافعة.
زورونا وشاركونابآرائكم وإسهاماتكم
إشراقة
إدارة وإشراف الكاتبة الإسلامية/ ناهدالخراشي
http://www.ishraqa.com

apache2: running php as owning user

[Micha Feigin]

Is it possible to run php as the owning user and not the server with apache2?

I tried enabling suexec (possibly not properly), and it didn't seem to
affect php.

I have php code to upload files and I want to give the upload directory
the user's permissions and not global write permission for security
reasons.


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prosba o radu

[kaviaren]

Dobrý deň,
prosím Vás chcel by som si 
nainštalovať debian - ktorú verziu by ste mi odporúčali ako laikovi, tak 
aby inštalácia prebehla "hladko" - nakoľko mám zapojené dva sata disky - 
raid...
 
Ďakujem
Péteri
-=x=-
Skontrolované antivírovým programom NOD32

Re: using scp to move files

[Antonio Rodriguez]

On Mon, Oct 04, 2004 at 03:41:43PM +, Kamaraju Kusumanchi wrote:
> Hi all
>Very simple question but I cannot find the answer in google
> (possibly wrong keywords).
> 
>I need to move some files from a server to client. I am planning to
> use scp for this. Using scp, I can only copy the files. But I want to
> move the files instead of copying them. Any ideas? The manual of scp
> does not have any option for this.
> 
> Are there any other programs which achieve the same result?
> 
> thanks
> raju

scp file; rm file


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printing Woody

[disciple]

Installed CUPS... and then did:

/usr/sbin/lpadmin -p Laser -v parallel:/dev/lp0 -P /root/laser.ppd

Got the following error:
lpadmin: add-printer failed: client-error-not-found

Printing to Laserjet 6p.  Downloaded and unpacked hpijs successfully.

Thanks for the help...


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Re: If ATI and nVidia don't support their own products, who does?

[Roberto Sanchez]

Wim De Smet wrote:
On Sun, 03 Oct 2004 19:32:37 -0700, Paul Johnson
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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Hash: SHA1
Wim De Smet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

You're looking at it wrong. Nobody really wants them to open source
their driver. Okay maybe because it's easier. But people really want
to be able to write their own driver.
And they can still do that, nobody's stopping them.  All we (at least
RMS and Iare in the same boat, and likely thousands of others) ask is
that we get those drivers under a license that meets the DFSG and
doesn't make us run through tons of extra hoops and user-hostile
licensing.

I'm not sure I understand what you're saying. The whole reason that
there are no free drivers is that it is enormously difficult to
reverse engineer a display driver. 2D might very well be doable but it
takes some effort and you will probably never get the same speed a
nvidia engineer could (since he knows what is in the hardware).
Getting 3D to work (and work fast) is even harder and the same
restrictions apply. All we should ask is the information we need about
the hardware. But nVidia is afraid that this might give too much of an
insight into their techniques to ATI, and vice versa. There is a core
of truth in that.
Then ATI must employ some extremely crappy engineers.  I get better
3D performance using the open source DRI drivers (which, IIRC, were
written with no assisance from ATI) for every 3D app, except games
that make use of S3 Texture Compression.
I know the open source nVidia drivers don't come close to the
performance of the propritary drivers, but what is ATI's excuse?
-Roberto Sanchez


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Re: using scp to move files

[Pete Conkin]

From: "Kamaraju Kusumanchi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>I need to move some files from a server to client. I am planning to
> use scp for this. Using scp, I can only copy the files. But I want to
> move the files instead of copying them. Any ideas? The manual of scp
> does not have any option for this.
>
> Are there any other programs which achieve the same result?

  The scp program from SSH.com's package supports this via the -u option
which will remove source files after copying them.

  Pete

>
> thanks
> raju
>
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monodevelop install problem

[Pascal Bonesh]

Hi,

I am quite new to debian and especially apt-get. I would like to install
monodevelop to play around a bit.

I do:
# apt-get install monodevelop

which gives me:
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.

Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that
the package is simply not installable and a bug report against
that package should be filed.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
  monodevelop: Depends: libgtksourceview-cil (>= 0.3) but it is not
going to be installed
   Depends: libgtksourceview-cil (< 0.4) but it is not going
to be installed
E: Broken packages



I seem unable to get libgtksourceview-cil. My sources.list looks like
this:

deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main contrib 
deb ftp://ftp.skynet.be/debian/ sarge main contrib non-free 

deb http://vemod.net/ ./

deb http://pkg-mono.alioth.debian.org/current ./
deb-src http://pkg-mono.alioth.debian.org/current ./

deb http://www.debianplanet.org/mono unstable main
deb-src http://www.debianplanet.org/mono unstable main



I tried various times to go to apt-get.org and I did search for mono
which gives me about the above sources. But nevertheless I seem unable
to get it installed.

-Is there a good source where all necessary packages are hosted? 
-Do I have something installed which prevents me from getting the
desired packages / conflict with them?
-Which is the easiest way to install all of mono with a nice GUI
programming interface?

Thanks in advance,
Pascal







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Samba issues

[Gabriel Granger]

Hi all,
I'm getting this problem where I cant connect via smb to my server, 
according to some of my users this started on friday, today when I've 
tried to connect (from OSX) it starts to connect then just hangs the 
system.  The only way I can free my machine up is to restart samba and 
relaunch finder.

I've made no changes to the config of samba, and its behind a firewall 
which only local users have access to (4 / 5 users).  I can no longer 
browse for the server, which I could before.  I've also noticed that 
under "shares" in swat the homes share is no longer visible when i try 
to connect..

on a w2k machine, things still dont work but look completely different, 
I can browse to the server, connect as myself see all the shares 
including my home area, i can see all the files but as soon as I click 
on anything explorer hangs...

Anyone got any ideas? below is my smb.conf which has been created by 
swat, I've also tagged to the bottom the output of log.smbd and 
log.nmbd.  If its some stupid please point me in the right direction(I 
seem to have had the getpeername error for sometime before this 
happened, but if their is a cure for that I'd appreciate it )

- Regards -
Gabe

# Samba config file created using SWAT
# from 193.129.90.57 (193.129.90.57)
# Date: 2004/10/04 18:13:22
# Global parameters
[global]
workgroup = BDHOME
server string = %h
allow trusted domains = No
smb passwd file = /var/lib/samba/passdb.tdb
passdb backend = tdbsam, guest
passwd program = /usr/bin/passwd %u
passwd chat = *Enter\snew\sUNIX\spassword:* %n\n 
*Retype\snew\sUNIX\spassword:* %n\n .
unix password sync = Yes
syslog = 0
log file = /var/log/samba/log.%m
max log size = 1000
load printers = No
show add printer wizard = No
dns proxy = No
ldap ssl = no
panic action = /usr/share/samba/panic-action %d
invalid users = root

[homes]
comment = Home Directories
read only = No
create mask = 0700
directory mask = 0700
browseable = No
[printers]
comment = All Printers
path = /tmp
create mask = 0700
printable = Yes
browseable = No
[print$]
comment = Printer Drivers
path = /var/lib/samba/printers
[coldfusion]
path = /opt/coldfusionmx
force group = staff
read only = No
create mask = 0774
directory mask = 0775
inherit permissions = Yes
[wwwroot]
path = /var/www/apache2-default/
force group = staff
read only = No
create mask = 0774
directory mask = 0775
inherit permissions = Yes
guest ok = Yes
[CFMX61DEV]
path = /var/www/apache2-default/Development/
read only = No

[2004/10/04 18:04:31, 0] smbd/server.c:main(760)
  smbd version 3.0.7-Debian started.
  Copyright Andrew Tridgell and the Samba Team 1992-2004
[2004/10/04 18:20:47, 0] lib/util_sock.c:get_peer_addr(1000)
  getpeername failed. Error was Transport endpoint is not connected
[2004/10/04 18:23:58, 0] lib/util_sock.c:get_peer_addr(1000)
  getpeername failed. Error was Transport endpoint is not connected

[2004/10/04 18:04:31, 0] nmbd/nmbd.c:main(664)
  Netbios nameserver version 3.0.7-Debian started.
  Copyright Andrew Tridgell and the Samba Team 1994-2004
[2004/10/04 18:10:09, 0] 
nmbd/nmbd_become_lmb.c:become_local_master_stage2(396)
  *

  Samba name server ZION is now a local master browser for workgroup 
WORKGROUP on subnet 193.129.90.105

  *
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question re: removing all traces of Windows ME OS

[Chris Moffa]

Folks,

I've a 3-year-old laptop, IBM iSeries
ThinkPad with Celeron processor.  I'm considering completely removing
all traces of anything Windows-related prior to installing Debian and open-source
productivity software.  I'd like to see what the computing experience
is like devoid of Microsoft products as much as possible.

While I'm not a complete novice (I've
installed/upgraded Windows OS and various patches and updates in the past,
edited my registry, screw around with files occasionally in DOS, etc.),
I'm not an IT guy by any stretch of the imagination.  All of the Linux
web sites I've seen assume users will leave their Windows OS on their hard
drive rather than remove it completely, hence this email.  

What's the protocol for removing all
traces of Windows ME?  How's about good old "format C:\?"
 Whatever the protocol, once the OS is removed will the computer boot
from the Debian CD and allow me to install it?    

Sorry to ask such a broad question.
 If the answer is too involved to reply by email, can you suggest
a web site?

Thanks,

Chris Moffa

Re: monodevelop install problem

[Andrea Vettorello]

On Mon, 04 Oct 2004 19:38:05 +0200, Pascal Bonesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I am quite new to debian and especially apt-get. I would like to install
> monodevelop to play around a bit.
> 
> I do:
> # apt-get install monodevelop
> 

[...]

> 
> I seem unable to get libgtksourceview-cil. My sources.list looks like
> this:
> 
> deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main contrib

If you are running testing or unstable you need to remove the line
above, security is only for stable.


Andrea


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Re: Gnome Log Out

[Juha Siltala]

On 2004-10-04, Andrea Vettorello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, 4 Oct 2004 15:42:28 +0200, Hans Gubitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Sorry, I think it's not Debian-specific, but 
>> 
>> When I log out from a Gnome-Session there is a small menu:
>> - ...
>> - shut down
>> - rebooting
>> 
>
> Not sure, but i think you can do it trough GDM, or look if there some
> gconf options...

In the GDM configuration (in the graphical one even, IIRC), there's an
option to swich on "secure configuration menu". I religiously (ie. no
facts) believe this affects the logout dialog as well.

-- 
Juha Siltala
http://www.edu.helsinki.fi/activity/people/jsiltala/


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Re: monodevelop install problem

[Pascal Bonesh]

Hi Andrea,

> > 
> > I seem unable to get libgtksourceview-cil. My sources.list looks like
> > this:
> > 
> > deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main contrib
> 
> If you are running testing or unstable you need to remove the line
> above, security is only for stable.
> 
> 
> Andrea
> 

Oops, your right, I moved my old sources.list to unstable and forgot the
line. Thank you.

Nevertheless for two months now I am trying to get monodevelop and I was
hoping that the dependancy issue would resolve itself with time - but it
doesn't. So I guess it's either a conflict with some packages I already
have installed or there are indeed some packages missing to get a
full-fledged mono installation. 

In which case I am very happy for suggestions from someone who has
suceeded in installing monodevelop on sarge...

Thank you
Pascal


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Re: question re: removing all traces of Windows ME OS

[bluesky6]

When you repartition the hard disk in order to create the Linux partition, windows will be wiped out.
 
Ben-Original Message- From: Chris Moffa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Sent: Oct 4, 2004 10:25 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: question re: removing all traces of Windows ME OS Folks, I've a 3-year-old laptop, IBM iSeries ThinkPad with Celeron processor.  I'm considering completely removing all traces of anything Windows-related prior to installing Debian and open-source productivity software.  I'd like to see what the computing experience is like devoid of Microsoft products as much as possible. While I'm not a complete novice (I've installed/upgraded Windows OS and various patches and updates in the past, edited my registry, screw around with files occasionally in DOS, etc.), I'm not an IT guy by any stretch of the imagination.  All of the Linux web sites I've seen assume users will leave their Windows OS on their hard drive rather than remove it completely, hence this email.   What's the protocol for removing all traces of Windows ME?  How's about good old "format C:\?"  Whatever the protocol, once the OS is removed will the computer boot from the Debian CD and allow me to install it?     Sorry to ask such a broad question.  If the answer is too involved to reply by email, can you suggest a web site? Thanks, Chris Moffa

Re: question re: removing all traces of Windows ME OS

[Andrea Vettorello]

- Original Message -
From: Chris Moffa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2004 13:25:14 -0400
Subject: question re: removing all traces of Windows ME OS
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 [...[
 
> What's the protocol for removing all traces of Windows ME?  How's about good old
> "format C:\?"  Whatever the protocol, once the OS is removed will the computer boot
> from the Debian CD and allow me to install it? 
 
If you are going to install Debian, during the installation process
you'll be asked if you want to erase the content of your HD, so you
don't need to do it before.

> Sorry to ask such a broad question.  If the answer is too involved to reply by email,
> can you suggest a web site? 
 
On the Debian home page you'll find an installation guide
(http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual) for Woody, the
latest Debian stable version released. The new stable, Sarge, should
be released real soon now. A lot of people have found Sarge to works
well, but can still have some rough egdes...


Andrea


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Re: If ATI and nVidia don't support their own products, who does?

[Wim De Smet]

On Mon, 04 Oct 2004 12:56:57 -0400, Roberto Sanchez
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> 
> Wim De Smet wrote:
> > On Sun, 03 Oct 2004 19:32:37 -0700, Paul Johnson
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >><#secure method=pgp mode=sign>
> >>-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> >>Hash: SHA1
> >>
> >>Wim De Smet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >>
> >>
> >>>You're looking at it wrong. Nobody really wants them to open source
> >>>their driver. Okay maybe because it's easier. But people really want
> >>>to be able to write their own driver.
> >>
> >>And they can still do that, nobody's stopping them.  All we (at least
> >>RMS and Iare in the same boat, and likely thousands of others) ask is
> >>that we get those drivers under a license that meets the DFSG and
> >>doesn't make us run through tons of extra hoops and user-hostile
> >>licensing.
> >
> >
> > I'm not sure I understand what you're saying. The whole reason that
> > there are no free drivers is that it is enormously difficult to
> > reverse engineer a display driver. 2D might very well be doable but it
> > takes some effort and you will probably never get the same speed a
> > nvidia engineer could (since he knows what is in the hardware).
> > Getting 3D to work (and work fast) is even harder and the same
> > restrictions apply. All we should ask is the information we need about
> > the hardware. But nVidia is afraid that this might give too much of an
> > insight into their techniques to ATI, and vice versa. There is a core
> > of truth in that.
> >
> 
> Then ATI must employ some extremely crappy engineers.  I get better
> 3D performance using the open source DRI drivers (which, IIRC, were
> written with no assisance from ATI) for every 3D app, except games
> that make use of S3 Texture Compression.
> 
> I know the open source nVidia drivers don't come close to the
> performance of the propritary drivers, but what is ATI's excuse?

Actually, for the older drivers ATI had this special program where
people could write open source drivers for their cards after signing
an NDA. The overall crappiness is due to the fact that 1) ATI doesn't
invest much resources in linux development and 2) they can't tie into
the kernel so tightly as the DRI folks can (because of licensing
problems). Although that's just a guess

greets,
Wim


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Re: Gnome Log Out

[Hans Gubitz]

You are right. But I'm really looking for a way to remove the entries
from the Gnome-menu.

Hans

On Mon, Oct 04, 2004 at 05:31:26PM +, Juha Siltala wrote:
 
> In the GDM configuration (in the graphical one even, IIRC), there's an
> option to swich on "secure configuration menu". I religiously (ie. no
> facts) believe this affects the logout dialog as well.
> 
> -- 
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> http://www.edu.helsinki.fi/activity/people/jsiltala/
> 
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Re: monodevelop install problem

[Andrea Vettorello]

On Mon, 04 Oct 2004 20:03:46 +0200, Pascal Bonesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Hi Andrea,
> 
> > >
> > > I seem unable to get libgtksourceview-cil. My sources.list looks like
> > > this:
> > >
> > > deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main contrib
> >
> > If you are running testing or unstable you need to remove the line
> > above, security is only for stable.
> >
> >
> > Andrea
> >
> 
> Oops, your right, I moved my old sources.list to unstable and forgot the
> line. Thank you.
> 
> Nevertheless for two months now I am trying to get monodevelop and I was
> hoping that the dependancy issue would resolve itself with time - but it
> doesn't. So I guess it's either a conflict with some packages I already
> have installed or there are indeed some packages missing to get a
> full-fledged mono installation.
> 
> In which case I am very happy for suggestions from someone who has
> suceeded in installing monodevelop on sarge...
> 

Well, i've tried to install monodevelop and apt seems to not moaning
here (but i'm running Sid =).

If you don't want to have the hassle to run unstable, you can try to
take the source from Sid and compile them for Sarge. I see monodevelop
depends on a lot of packages (need to install 17 packages for 41.2 Mb
of archives) but with the apt help should not a "big" problem...


Andrea


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Re: Samba issues

[Andrew Pritchard]

I had very similar symptoms. The solution I found was to add:
use sendfile = no
to your global section.
Andrew
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Re: question re: removing all traces of Windows ME OS

[Clive Menzies]

On (04/10/04 20:09), Andrea Vettorello wrote:
> - Original Message -
> From: Chris Moffa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2004 13:25:14 -0400
> Subject: question re: removing all traces of Windows ME OS
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
>  [...[
>  
> > What's the protocol for removing all traces of Windows ME?  How's about good old
> > "format C:\?"  Whatever the protocol, once the OS is removed will the computer boot
> > from the Debian CD and allow me to install it? 
>  
> If you are going to install Debian, during the installation process
> you'll be asked if you want to erase the content of your HD, so you
> don't need to do it before.
> 
> > Sorry to ask such a broad question.  If the answer is too involved to reply by 
> > email,
> > can you suggest a web site? 
>  
> On the Debian home page you'll find an installation guide
> (http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual) for Woody, the
> latest Debian stable version released. The new stable, Sarge, should
> be released real soon now. A lot of people have found Sarge to works
> well, but can still have some rough egdes...

The new Debian Installer for sarge is a considerable improvement on
woody and it should auto detect much more of your hardware.  You could
either wait until sarge goes stable or plunge in now.  If you search the
archive, you find a lot of discussion on stable (woody) v testing (sarge) v
Unstable (sid):

http://lists.debian.org/search.html

YMMV

Clive
 

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Re: KDE gets a bum rap

[Alex Polite]

On sön, sep 26, 2004 at 10:30:14 +0200, David Baron wrote:
> I am running on a PIII, 500mhz clunker which I overclock to 575mhz. No 
> screamer by anyone's standards. I have 500m memory which is OK.

I have a PIII 500mhz running KDE and I'm quite happy with. 3.3 is a
lot snappier than 3.2.

Also see to it that you running a low latency kernel.

I have to admit however that I use KDE mainly as WM and do most of my
work in non-KDE apps. emacs, screen, firefox.

alex.


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Re: using scp to move files

[Peter Hicks]

On Mon, Oct 04, 2004 at 03:41:43PM +, Kamaraju Kusumanchi wrote:
>Hi all
>   Very simple question but I cannot find the answer in google
>(possibly wrong keywords).
>
>   I need to move some files from a server to client. I am planning to
>use scp for this. Using scp, I can only copy the files. But I want to
>move the files instead of copying them. Any ideas? The manual of scp
>does not have any option for this.
>
>Are there any other programs which achieve the same result?

Try using rsync with the --delete-after flag. You can tunnel rsync over
ssh using the -e flag. That should accomplish what you are trying to
achieve, I believe.

man rsync just to make sure :-)

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DWI (Date With Interaction) user(s)?

[Hugo Vanwoerkom]

Hi Debian!
Any DWI users out there? The homepage
http://www.linas.org/linux/dwi/
does not indicate a mailinglist.
I have some questions on getting it(them) to run...
It seems such a neat idea.
Hugo
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Re: question re: removing all traces of Windows ME OS

[Agustin]

On Mon, 04 Oct 2004 20:10:25 +0200, Andrea Vettorello wrote:

> - Original Message -
> From: Chris Moffa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2004 13:25:14
> -0400
> Subject: question re: removing all traces of Windows ME OS To:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
>  [...[
>  
>> What's the protocol for removing all traces of Windows ME?  How's about
>> good old "format C:\?"  Whatever the protocol, once the OS is removed
>> will the computer boot from the Debian CD and allow me to install it?
>  
> If you are going to install Debian, during the installation process
> you'll be asked if you want to erase the content of your HD, so you
> don't need to do it before.
> 
>> Sorry to ask such a broad question.  If the answer is too involved to
>> reply by email, can you suggest a web site?
>  
> On the Debian home page you'll find an installation guide
> (http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual) for Woody, the
> latest Debian stable version released. The new stable, Sarge, should be
> released real soon now. A lot of people have found Sarge to works well,
> but can still have some rough egdes...
> 
> 
> Andrea

Hi,

Follow Andrea's advice; it's good.

My experience:

I recently installed Debian (sarge) on my multi-boot. I downloaded a 113
MiB image named sarge-i386-netinst.iso from here:
http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/sarge_d-i/i386/rc1/ and I
put it on a CD-Rom. I booted from CD-Rom and let it run the installation
setup. This put a minimal installation on the hard-drive following the
partitioning and formatting steps that Andrea has already mentioned. That
partitioning effectively takes care of any remnants of your MS system,
particularly as the original partion will be trashed and replaced by
several new ones - mine put in /root /home /tmp /var /dev/shm and /usr all
on different partitions. I understand that the theory behind this is that
if my kernel goes into a panic I should be able to restitute the system
without having to touch my other partitions (maybe).

In my case I had a router connected to my computer which was immediately
detected by the installer, on reboot, which simplified the rest of the
installation, as all I had to do was choose what kind of setup I wanted.
Took quite a while to finish the installation but I have found it to be
unbeatable regarding freeze-ups etc. I can imagine that other users, with
different hardware from mine, might prefer to use Woody, but I felt that I
needed as much compatibility as possible.

I'm very happy with sarge, for now, but if I were you I'd check carfully
to see which build and version is appropriate for the hardware on your
laptop.

Good luck

Agustin


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Re: question re: removing all traces of Windows ME OS

[Agustin]

On Mon, 04 Oct 2004 20:10:25 +0200, Andrea Vettorello wrote:

> - Original Message -
> From: Chris Moffa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2004 13:25:14
> -0400
> Subject: question re: removing all traces of Windows ME OS To:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
>  [...[
>  
>> What's the protocol for removing all traces of Windows ME?  How's about
>> good old "format C:\?"  Whatever the protocol, once the OS is removed
>> will the computer boot from the Debian CD and allow me to install it?
>  
> If you are going to install Debian, during the installation process
> you'll be asked if you want to erase the content of your HD, so you
> don't need to do it before.
> 
>> Sorry to ask such a broad question.  If the answer is too involved to
>> reply by email, can you suggest a web site?
>  
> On the Debian home page you'll find an installation guide
> (http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual) for Woody, the
> latest Debian stable version released. The new stable, Sarge, should be
> released real soon now. A lot of people have found Sarge to works well,
> but can still have some rough egdes...
> 
> 
> Andrea

Hi,

Follow Andrea's advice; it's good.

My experience:

I recently installed Debian (sarge) on my multi-boot. I downloaded a 113
MiB image named sarge-i386-netinst.iso from here:
http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/sarge_d-i/i386/rc1/ and I
put it on a CD-Rom. I booted from CD-Rom and let it run the installation
setup. This put a minimal installation on the hard-drive following the
partitioning and formatting steps that Andrea has already mentioned. That
partitioning effectively takes care of any remnants of your MS system,
particularly as the original partion will be trashed and replaced by
several new ones - mine put in /root /home /tmp /var /dev/shm and /usr all
on different partitions. I understand that the theory behind this is that
if my kernel goes into a panic I should be able to restitute the system
without having to touch my other partitions (maybe).

In my case I had a router connected to my computer which was immediately
detected by the installer, on reboot, which simplified the rest of the
installation, as all I had to do was choose what kind of setup I wanted.
Took quite a while to finish the installation but I have found it to be
unbeatable regarding freeze-ups etc. I can imagine that other users, with
different hardware from mine, might prefer to use Woody, but I felt that I
needed as much compatibility as possible.

I'm very happy with sarge, for now, but if I were you I'd check carfully
to see which build and version is appropriate for the hardware on your
laptop.

Good luck

Agustin


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Re: question re: removing all traces of Windows ME OS

[Kent West]

Chris Moffa wrote:
  Whatever the protocol, once the OS is removed will the computer boot 
from the Debian CD and allow me to install it?
If you can't currently boot off the CD, wiping Windows won't solve that 
problem. If you were asking if you need Windows to boot the CD, the 
answer is "no; you boot from the CD and Windows doesn't come into the 
equation at all at this point".

Agustin wrote:
That
partitioning effectively takes care of any remnants of your MS system,
particularly as the original partion will be trashed and replaced by
several new ones - mine put in /root /home /tmp /var /dev/shm and /usr all
on different partitions. I understand that the theory behind this is that
if my kernel goes into a panic I should be able to restitute the system
without having to touch my other partitions (maybe).
 

Other advantages of multiple partitions:
* If a partition fills up (say, a logging process starts spewing out log 
entries by the millions), it only fills up that partition, rather than 
"all" partitions, which provides less chance of file system 
corruption/damage/lockups/etc.

* You can mount certain partitions read-only, such as / and /etc, which 
helps to prevent tinkering or accidental changes to system files.

* During system maintenance, it's typically safer to mount only the 
partitions you need to maintain/work with.

* It's easier to reconfigure a single partition or two than an entire 
filesystem.

* There may be some slight enhancement of security from hackers to have 
multiple partitions.


About the only disadvantages of multiple platforms:
* If you size them wrong to begin with (too small, and they'll fill up; 
too large, and it's wasted disk space), it can be problematic to resize 
them.

* It's a little more complex to set up (plan the sizes, names, make sure 
/etc/fstab is correct, etc).

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Mozilla browsers and Flashplayer

[Freddy Freeloader]

I have a strange problem with Mozilla browsers, both Mozilla and 
Firefox, and Flashplayer when I install sarge using the netinst cd. 

If I install woody first, and then do a dist-upgrade from there all 
sites that use flash work normally, but if I do a fresh install using 
the new installer some of the sites, such as MLB's Gameday do not 
display correctly.  At first I thought this was something to do with 
just the browser and Flashplayer but then realized that this only 
happens on fresh installs using the new installer, so it would seem to 
me that it has to be related to something being left out or changed in 
the system between woody and sarge. 

What happens is that in the areas that normally display player stats for 
the game display nothing expect for player names and then a total at the 
bottom of where each column should be.  This is an accurate total of 
hits, BB's, KO's RBI's, etc... to that point in the game there's just no 
stats displayed above the totals, and the inning by inning scores are 
all blank too along with all pitching stats.  In the box that shows each 
pitch location the graphics are off there too.  It shows them, but 
displays them differently than when the page works normally. 

Has anyone else experienced this? 

BTW, I've been to several sites devoted to Flash movies and they all 
seem to work normally.  It just seems to be pages like the MLB Gameday 
that have a problem. 

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Re: Mozilla browsers and Flashplayer

[Wim De Smet]

Hi,
On Mon, 04 Oct 2004 13:03:51 -0700, Freddy Freeloader
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have a strange problem with Mozilla browsers, both Mozilla and
> Firefox, and Flashplayer when I install sarge using the netinst cd.
> 
> If I install woody first, and then do a dist-upgrade from there all
> sites that use flash work normally, but if I do a fresh install using
> the new installer some of the sites, such as MLB's Gameday do not
> display correctly.  At first I thought this was something to do with
> just the browser and Flashplayer but then realized that this only
> happens on fresh installs using the new installer, so it would seem to
> me that it has to be related to something being left out or changed in
> the system between woody and sarge.
> 
> What happens is that in the areas that normally display player stats for
> the game display nothing expect for player names and then a total at the
> bottom of where each column should be.  This is an accurate total of
> hits, BB's, KO's RBI's, etc... to that point in the game there's just no
> stats displayed above the totals, and the inning by inning scores are
> all blank too along with all pitching stats.  In the box that shows each
> pitch location the graphics are off there too.  It shows them, but
> displays them differently than when the page works normally.
> 
> Has anyone else experienced this?

No, but I do seem to recall that flashplayer requires some fonts to be
installed. Maybe it is these that you are missing? It's documented in
its readme I think. (package gsfonts if I'm not mistaken)

greets,
Wim


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Software RAID 0 and linux 2.6.8.1

[Niels]

Hi,
I want to buy a Promise Fasttrack TX2 plus RAID 0 controller with two 
SATA hard disks. The controller is a software controller. I want no 
other hard disks than these two in my PC. Can I boot of this setup with 
the 2.6 kernel? Is it possible to put Windows XP and Debian Linux on the 
same RAID 0 array? Is it difficult to install?

Greets,
Niels
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Re: question re: removing all traces of Windows ME OS

[Ulisses Reina Montenegro de Albuquerque]

Kent West wrote:
Other advantages of multiple partitions:
* If a partition fills up (say, a logging process starts spewing out 
log entries by the millions), it only fills up that partition, rather 
than "all" partitions, which provides less chance of file system 
corruption/damage/lockups/etc.

* You can mount certain partitions read-only, such as / and /etc, 
which helps to prevent tinkering or accidental changes to system files.

* During system maintenance, it's typically safer to mount only the 
partitions you need to maintain/work with.

* It's easier to reconfigure a single partition or two than an entire 
filesystem.

* There may be some slight enhancement of security from hackers to 
have multiple partitions.


About the only disadvantages of multiple platforms:
* If you size them wrong to begin with (too small, and they'll fill 
up; too large, and it's wasted disk space), it can be problematic to 
resize them.

* It's a little more complex to set up (plan the sizes, names, make 
sure /etc/fstab is correct, etc).
Since the new Debian installer (pre-rc2) supports boot setups using LVM, 
these are no longer a big problem. Many people do not use LVM on desktop 
systems, because they associate it with servers (and their huge storage 
requirements, with multi-disk setups and such), but LVM can offer some 
real benefits for desktop users, too.

Of course, having the tools to correct mistakes done during the planning 
phase is nice, but you should always try to get it right the first time, 
because all maintenance in your file systems has the potential for data 
loss. Also, you cannot resize live filesystems (with some notable 
exceptions, including ReiserFS), so if your root filesystem blows up, 
you will have to boot using a rescue CD or similar tool to repair your 
system.

Anyway, just my $0.02 to this discussion.
Cheers
Ulisses
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Re: Software RAID 0 and linux 2.6.8.1

[Alvin Oga]

On Mon, 4 Oct 2004, Niels wrote:

> I want to buy a Promise Fasttrack TX2 plus RAID 0 controller with two 
> SATA hard disks. The controller is a software controller. I want no 
> other hard disks than these two in my PC. Can I boot of this setup with 
> the 2.6 kernel?

yes...

> Is it possible to put Windows XP and Debian Linux on the 
> same RAID 0 array?

yes

> Is it difficult to install?

no

-- trick is to install windoze on the 1st partition so it thinks its C:

--- bigger problem ...

- why use 2 disks in raid0 ( aks stripping ) which might allow you to read
  faster but also makes 2 disks look like 1 bigger disk
- if one disk dies... both disk are useless

- i think you want to use (sw or hw ) raid1 ( mirror )
- if one disk dies ... all your data is still intact on the other
disk

- gazillion raid howtos urls
http://1u_raid5.net/HowTo/SW-Raid-HOWTO.txt


c ya
alvin


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USB Generic Drive Storage

[Ryan Waye]

Hello,

I am attempting to use a USB Flash drive on my 2.6.7 Linux box. 
Debian seems to detect it, here is the entry from
/proc/bus/usb/devices file:

T:  Bus=03 Lev=01 Prnt=01 Port=01 Cnt=01 Dev#=  6 Spd=12  MxCh= 0
D:  Ver= 1.10 Cls=00(>ifc ) Sub=00 Prot=00 MxPS= 8 #Cfgs=  1
P:  Vendor=10d6 ProdID=1000 Rev= 1.00
S:  Product=Generic USB Disk Device
S:  SerialNumber=Generic USB Disk Device
C:* #Ifs= 1 Cfg#= 1 Atr=80 MxPwr=100mA
I:  If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 2 Cls=08(stor.) Sub=05 Prot=50 Driver=usb-storage
E:  Ad=01(O) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS=  64 Ivl=0ms
E:  Ad=82(I) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS=  64 Ivl=0ms

Also, lsusb shows this:

Bus 004 Device 001: ID :
Bus 003 Device 006: ID 10d6:1000 Actions Semiconductor Co., Ltd
Bus 003 Device 001: ID :
Bus 002 Device 002: ID 045e:0040 Microsoft Corp. Wheel Mouse Optical
Bus 002 Device 001: ID :
Bus 001 Device 001: ID :

So it appears to have been detected, but how do I access it?

Sincerely, 
Ryan Waye


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Woody or Sarge

[Adi Linden]

I need to build some servers that are hopefully going to be in service for
a long time. Most distributions I have been looking at have short support
cycles, where in the very near future a significant upgrade/rebuild is
required rather than just security fixes. Another solution would be to go
with a commercial Enterprise Linux (RedHat or Suse) offering. However, the
annual cost of those is prohibitive in some circumstances.

The stable Debian release appear to be around for a very long time, which
is exactly what I am looking for. But my question now is with Sarge on the
horizon, how long can I expect to see security fixes for Woody? One year,
two years, five years? What about Sarge?

Adi


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Re: using scp to move files

[Kamaraju Kusumanchi]

On Mon, 4 Oct 2004 12:13:25 -0700, Peter Hicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 04, 2004 at 03:41:43PM +, Kamaraju Kusumanchi wrote:
> >Hi all
> >   Very simple question but I cannot find the answer in google
> >(possibly wrong keywords).
> >
> >   I need to move some files from a server to client. I am planning to
> >use scp for this. Using scp, I can only copy the files. But I want to
> >move the files instead of copying them. Any ideas? The manual of scp
> >does not have any option for this.
> >
> >Are there any other programs which achieve the same result?
> 
> Try using rsync with the --delete-after flag. You can tunnel rsync over
> ssh using the -e flag. That should accomplish what you are trying to
> achieve, I believe.
> 
> man rsync just to make sure :-)

I read the manual page on rsync. The --delete-after deletes the files
on the receiving end. What I need is an option to delete on the
sender. Did I miss anything?

raju


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Re: using scp to move files

[PaulNM]

Antonio Rodriguez wrote:
scp file; rm file
Uh, "scp file(s) && rm file(s)" is probably better since "&&" will only 
run the next command if the first one succeeds. It would be a shame to 
have scp fail for some reason, then delete your files. :)

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Re: FAM causing "device or resource busy" errors when trying to smbumount

[Paul Yeatman]

Hi, I've been having the same problem in Sarge.  In my case it
doesn't involve Samba but when a CD or even floppy is mounted by
nautilus/fam (or whatever is going on when you click a CD device
from the "Computer" icon), occasionally it will not unmount the
filesystem on the device with an error that the device is busy.  Once
I've convinced myself there are no processes running involving the
device and I'm not in any of its mounted directories, I'll try an 'lsof
/dev/cdrom' and will get something like

COMMAND  PID USER   FD   TYPE DEVICE SIZE NODE NAME
famd 1135me 26r  DIR  2,07168 1/media/cdrom

As Rich said, until I kill famd, I am unable to umount the
FS on the device.

I wasn't aware I could stop and restart fam with a supplied init script
as Rich mentioned although last time the problem occurred I tried stopping
and restarting famd this way but things still were somewhat screwed up
until I completely logged out or rebooted.

Anyone know what it going on with this.  Just a bug?

Paul

rich wrote on 28 Jul 2004:
> when I have an smb share mounted on a directory in my home
> directory, it 
> refuses to unmount.
> 
> This is new, it used to work without a problem. Perhaps something
> changed in 
> the later releases of Sarge? (I apt-get dist-upgrade all the time)
> 
> I used lsof and found the process that was holding the mount-point
> directory 
> up, which was 
> 
> /usr/sbin/famd -T 0
> 
> I shut down fam with #/etc/init.d/fam stop and I could then umount
> the share 
> cleanly.
> 
> Can anyone shed any light on this?
> 
> thanks,
> 
> rich
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Re: Gnome Log Out

[Juha Siltala]

On 2004-10-04, Hans Gubitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 04, 2004 at 05:31:26PM +, Juha Siltala wrote:
>  
>> In the GDM configuration (in the graphical one even, IIRC), there's an
>> option to swich on "secure configuration menu". I religiously (ie. no
>> facts) believe this affects the logout dialog as well.

> You are right. But I'm really looking for a way to remove the entries
> from the Gnome-menu.

And you are top-posting. :) Anyway, I thought we are talking about the
dialog box that comes up when you choose "log out" from the GNOME panel. 
The panel menu should only have "log out", and the other options should be
only in the dialog that comes up after you choose that. Or has something
changed?

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RE: USB Generic Drive Storage

[Preston Boyington]

Ryan Waye wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I am attempting to use a USB Flash drive on my 2.6.7 Linux box.
> Debian seems to detect it, here is the entry from
> /proc/bus/usb/devices file:

> So it appears to have been detected, but how do I access it?
> 
> Sincerely,
> Ryan Waye

maybe try as root:
mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda1

Re: Woody or Sarge

[Alec Berryman]

begin  quotation of Adi Linden on 2004-10-04 16:57:02 -0500:

> How long can I expect to see security fixes for Woody? One year, two
> years, five years? What about Sarge?

Security updates for potato (the version before woody) were available
for approximately six months after woody's release.  I would guess
that the same will hold true for woody after sarge, and sarge after
etch.



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Re: Software RAID 0 and linux 2.6.8.1

[Paul Yeatman]

"software controller": isn't the point of having a RAID card to use
hardware RAID?

I am doing virtually what you are asking about.  I have a FastTrak TX2
card and am mirror two disks on which I have my Debian build.  The
biggest part I would question of your proposal is that it--hardware
RAID'ing using Promise FastTrak--can be done on kernel 2.6 (I
refer to this later).

Alvin who also responded to this thread questioned your use/definition
of RAID 0 but I am fairly certain this is good ol' fashion mirroring as
it appears you are thinking of it as and as I know I am using.

The differences between my setup and what you are asking is I don't
have dual boot, I'm positively using hardware not software RAID and I
have a small, non-raided drive (hda1) that is my boot disk, ie.
what holds my boot loader and /boot partition.  Although there is
good possibility this small, unraided disk is not necessary, it does
make things ALOT easier and safer.  It has saved me a bunch.

When a reboot fails because of a kernel change or whatever, I can
always fall back to the IDE, unraided disk which has the same build of
Debian (a minimal build of the same Debian version).  I can always
count on this to boot and from this, I can mount the other disks until
I can correct the problem with the RAIDed build.

Also, as your BIOS likely doesn't recognize the RAIDed drives, you
need something your BIOS can read to hold your boot loader.  As I
said, this could likely be avoided but I personally don't know
how.

One more comment, the kernel module I compile for the FastTrak
card is at


http://www.promise.com/support/download/download2_eng.asp?productId=88&category=All&os=100

Look for "Partial Linux Source Code".  The latest version I have found
there is 1.03.0.2 which as I understand only supports kernel 2.4.  For
this reason, I am not using kernel 2.6 which is another difference I
didn't mention earlier.

Hope this helps,

Paul

->>In response to your message<<-
  --received from Niels--
>
> Hi,
> 
> I want to buy a Promise Fasttrack TX2 plus RAID 0 controller with two 
> SATA hard disks. The controller is a software controller. I want no 
> other hard disks than these two in my PC. Can I boot of this setup with 
> the 2.6 kernel? Is it possible to put Windows XP and Debian Linux on the 
> same RAID 0 array? Is it difficult to install?
> 
> Greets,
> Niels
> 
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No text on console

[Nathanael Hasbrouck]

I've got an interesting problem - after recompiling my kernel, I now don't 
have any text on my console.  I still have a cursor, but no text is 
actually printed after lilo starts the kernel booting.  No text on any of 
my virtual consoles, either.  Everything is fine and dandy on 2.6.6, but 
2.6.7 and 2.6.8.1 both break.

Also, buttons 6 & 7(the forward/back buttons on the side) on my 
Intellimouse Explorer don't work anymore either, but don't know if it's 
related.

Has anyone run across this before? Google hasn't told me so, if anyone has.  
dmesg output and kernel .config(s) will be posted if anyone wants to 
peruse for oddities I'm not knowledgeable enough to catch.  Console 
framebuffer *is* turned on...  

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AE_NOT_EXIST error messages with hotplug package

[Olle Eriksson]

Hi

After installing the hotplug and udev packages I get a number of error 
messages during boot, all looking like this (full dmesg log below):

ACPI-1133: *** Error: Method execution failed [\_SB_.LNKA._STA] (Node 
dffa8f40), AE_NOT_EXIST

It looks by the log like there is a chance it is caused by the PCI hotplug 
kernel module by the log. My computer is a 733 MHz PIII so it's pretty 
old, and I suppose PCI hotplug needs to be supported by the hardware. 
However rmmod'ing pci_kernel and modprob'ing it again produces no error 
messages. Does anyone have an idea of what to do to get rid of the error 
messages, or what causes them?

Extract from dmesg

cpci_hotplug: CompactPCI Hot Plug Core version: 0.2
pci_hotplug: PCI Hot Plug PCI Core version: 0.5
ACPI-1133: *** Error: Method execution failed [\_SB_.LNKA._STA] (Node 
dffa8f40), AE_NOT_EXIST
ACPI-0154: *** Error: Method execution failed [\_SB_.LNKA._STA] (Node 
dffa8f40), AE_NOT_EXIST
ACPI-1133: *** Error: Method execution failed [\_SB_.LNKB._STA] (Node 
dffa8e40), AE_NOT_EXIST
ACPI-0154: *** Error: Method execution failed [\_SB_.LNKB._STA] (Node 
dffa8e40), AE_NOT_EXIST
ACPI-1133: *** Error: Method execution failed [\_SB_.LNKC._STA] (Node 
dffa8d40), AE_NOT_EXIST
ACPI-0154: *** Error: Method execution failed [\_SB_.LNKC._STA] (Node 
dffa8d40), AE_NOT_EXIST
ACPI-1133: *** Error: Method execution failed [\_SB_.LNKD._STA] (Node 
dffa8c40), AE_NOT_EXIST
ACPI-0154: *** Error: Method execution failed [\_SB_.LNKD._STA] (Node 
dffa8c40), AE_NOT_EXIST
ACPI-1133: *** Error: Method execution failed [\_SB_.LNKE._STA] (Node 
dffa8b40), AE_NOT_EXIST
ACPI-0154: *** Error: Method execution failed [\_SB_.LNKE._STA] (Node 
dffa8b40), AE_NOT_EXIST
ACPI-1133: *** Error: Method execution failed [\_SB_.LNKF._STA] (Node 
dffa8a40), AE_NOT_EXIST
ACPI-0154: *** Error: Method execution failed [\_SB_.LNKF._STA] (Node 
dffa8a40), AE_NOT_EXIST
ACPI-1133: *** Error: Method execution failed [\_SB_.LNKG._STA] (Node 
dffa8940), AE_NOT_EXIST
ACPI-0154: *** Error: Method execution failed [\_SB_.LNKG._STA] (Node 
dffa8940), AE_NOT_EXIST
ACPI-1133: *** Error: Method execution failed [\_SB_.LNKH._STA] (Node 
dffa7840), AE_NOT_EXIST
ACPI-0154: *** Error: Method execution failed [\_SB_.LNKH._STA] (Node 
dffa7840), AE_NOT_EXIST
pciehp: acpi_pciehprm:\_SB_.PCI0 evaluate _BBN fail=0x5
pciehp: acpi_pciehprm:get_device PCI ROOT HID fail=0x5
ACPI-1133: *** Error: Method execution failed [\_SB_.LNKA._STA] (Node 
dffa8f40), AE_NOT_EXIST
ACPI-0154: *** Error: Method execution failed [\_SB_.LNKA._STA] (Node 
dffa8f40), AE_NOT_EXIST
ACPI-1133: *** Error: Method execution failed [\_SB_.LNKB._STA] (Node 
dffa8e40), AE_NOT_EXIST
ACPI-0154: *** Error: Method execution failed [\_SB_.LNKB._STA] (Node 
dffa8e40), AE_NOT_EXIST
ACPI-1133: *** Error: Method execution failed [\_SB_.LNKC._STA] (Node 
dffa8d40), AE_NOT_EXIST
ACPI-0154: *** Error: Method execution failed [\_SB_.LNKC._STA] (Node 
dffa8d40), AE_NOT_EXIST
ACPI-1133: *** Error: Method execution failed [\_SB_.LNKD._STA] (Node 
dffa8c40), AE_NOT_EXIST
ACPI-0154: *** Error: Method execution failed [\_SB_.LNKD._STA] (Node 
dffa8c40), AE_NOT_EXIST
ACPI-1133: *** Error: Method execution failed [\_SB_.LNKE._STA] (Node 
dffa8b40), AE_NOT_EXIST
ACPI-0154: *** Error: Method execution failed [\_SB_.LNKE._STA] (Node 
dffa8b40), AE_NOT_EXIST
ACPI-1133: *** Error: Method execution failed [\_SB_.LNKF._STA] (Node 
dffa8a40), AE_NOT_EXIST
ACPI-0154: *** Error: Method execution failed [\_SB_.LNKF._STA] (Node 
dffa8a40), AE_NOT_EXIST
ACPI-1133: *** Error: Method execution failed [\_SB_.LNKG._STA] (Node 
dffa8940), AE_NOT_EXIST
ACPI-0154: *** Error: Method execution failed [\_SB_.LNKG._STA] (Node 
dffa8940), AE_NOT_EXIST
ACPI-1133: *** Error: Method execution failed [\_SB_.LNKH._STA] (Node 
dffa7840), AE_NOT_EXIST
ACPI-0154: *** Error: Method execution failed [\_SB_.LNKH._STA] (Node 
dffa7840), AE_NOT_EXIST
shpchp: acpi_shpchprm:\_SB_.PCI0 evaluate _BBN fail=0x5
shpchp: acpi_shpchprm:get_device PCI ROOT HID fail=0x5
hw_random hardware driver 1.0.0 loaded
ACPI-1133: *** Error: Method execution failed [\_SB_.LNKA._STA] (Node 
dffa8f40), AE_NOT_EXIST
ACPI-0154: *** Error: Method execution failed [\_SB_.LNKA._STA] (Node 
dffa8f40), AE_NOT_EXIST
ACPI-1133: *** Error: Method execution failed [\_SB_.LNKB._STA] (Node 
dffa8e40), AE_NOT_EXIST
ACPI-0154: *** Error: Method execution failed [\_SB_.LNKB._STA] (Node 
dffa8e40), AE_NOT_EXIST
ACPI-1133: *** Error: Method execution failed [\_SB_.LNKC._STA] (Node 
dffa8d40), AE_NOT_EXIST
ACPI-0154: *** Error: Method execution failed [\_SB_.LNKC._STA] (Node 
dffa8d40), AE_NOT_EXIST
ACPI-1133: *** Error: Method execution failed [\_SB_.LNKD._STA] (Node 
dffa8c40), AE_NOT_EXIST
ACPI-0154: *** Error: Method execution fai

Re: Software RAID 0 and linux 2.6.8.1

[Paolo Alexis Falcone]

On Mon, 04 Oct 2004 22:53:39 +0200, Niels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I want to buy a Promise Fasttrack TX2 plus RAID 0 controller with two
> SATA hard disks. The controller is a software controller. I want no
> other hard disks than these two in my PC. Can I boot of this setup with
> the 2.6 kernel? Is it possible to put Windows XP and Debian Linux on the
> same RAID 0 array? Is it difficult to install?


You're better off using software raid rather than buying that
controller. If you really want hardware RAID controllers I would
suggest "true hardware RAID" controllers such as the 3ware Escalade
8xxx/9xxx.

[Disclaimer: I don't work for 3ware, and the Escalade is a bit expensive]

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Re: printing Woody

[Tim Kelley]

On Monday 04 October 2004 11:16, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Installed CUPS... and then did:
>
> /usr/sbin/lpadmin -p Laser -v parallel:/dev/lp0 -P /root/laser.ppd
>
> Got the following error:
> lpadmin: add-printer failed: client-error-not-found

tried:

/usr/sbin/lpadmin -E -p Laser -v parallel:/dev/lp0 -P /root/laser.ppd

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Re: USB Generic Drive Storage

[robin]

Preston Boyington wrote:

  Ryan Waye wrote:
  
  
Hello,

I am attempting to use a USB Flash drive on my 2.6.7 Linux box.
Debian seems to detect it, here is the entry from
/proc/bus/usb/devices file:

  
  
  
  
So it appears to have been detected, but how do I access it?

Sincerely,
Ryan Waye

  
  
maybe try as root:
mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda1



  

If the above doesn't work, search dmesg for scsi 

Robin

Re: question re: removing all traces of Windows ME OS

[Rich Rudnick]

On Mon, 2004-10-04 at 13:25 -0400, Chris Moffa wrote:
> 
> Folks, 
> 
> I've a 3-year-old laptop, IBM iSeries ThinkPad with Celeron
> processor.  I'm considering completely removing all traces of anything
> Windows-related prior to installing Debian and open-source
> productivity software.  I'd like to see what the computing experience
> is like devoid of Microsoft products as much as possible. 
> 

It seem to me that "as much as possible" is the operative phrase here.
I've been using linux for over five years, debian for the last four, but
I still retain a minimal windows install.

First, because some commercial entities I (and maybe you) deal with will
not provide 'standards based' access. A case in point is my ISP, which
(in my mind) provides superior service, but also provided a CD that
required windows to set up the service.  Once I was registered with the
ISP, I could access it from linux.  Another is my bank, which, although
windows centric, provides services that I _will not_ do without. 

The second reason is hardware support. This may not be relevant to your
laptop, but what will you plug into it? Debian, with discover,
read-edid, udev, hal and related software is much better at providing
out of the box hardware support these days. Still, the fact is that
hardware manufacturers build with windows in mind. Sometimes simply
being able to boot to windows and install the windows drivers will
provide you with the info you need to make the hardware work under
linux. 

So, with the above two points in mind, I would recommend that you
repartition your hard disk with as little as you can applied to windows
with basic internet access in mind (4 gig should be enough, I would
think), reinstall a minimal ME, and then install debian sarge. 

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Re: FAM causing "device or resource busy" errors when trying to smbumount

[robin]

Paul Yeatman wrote:
Hi, I've been having the same problem in Sarge.  In my case it
doesn't involve Samba but when a CD or even floppy is mounted by
nautilus/fam (or whatever is going on when you click a CD device
from the "Computer" icon), occasionally it will not unmount the
filesystem on the device with an error that the device is busy.  Once
I've convinced myself there are no processes running involving the
device and I'm not in any of its mounted directories, I'll try an 'lsof
/dev/cdrom' and will get something like
COMMAND  PID USER   FD   TYPE DEVICE SIZE NODE NAME
famd 1135me 26r  DIR  2,07168 1/media/cdrom
As Rich said, until I kill famd, I am unable to umount the
FS on the device.
I wasn't aware I could stop and restart fam with a supplied init script
as Rich mentioned although last time the problem occurred I tried stopping
and restarting famd this way but things still were somewhat screwed up
until I completely logged out or rebooted.
Anyone know what it going on with this.  Just a bug?
Paul
rich wrote on 28 Jul 2004:
 

when I have an smb share mounted on a directory in my home
directory, it 
refuses to unmount.

This is new, it used to work without a problem. Perhaps something
changed in 
the later releases of Sarge? (I apt-get dist-upgrade all the time)

I used lsof and found the process that was holding the mount-point
directory 
up, which was 

/usr/sbin/famd -T 0
I shut down fam with #/etc/init.d/fam stop and I could then umount
the share 
cleanly.

Can anyone shed any light on this?
thanks,
rich
   

Not much to add but I had the problem when I used to run gnome (til 
nautilus-2.6 came out). Since going over to xfce4 it hasn't been a 
problem. Found this link 
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?which=pkg&data=fam&archive=no

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Re: question re: removing all traces of Windows ME OS

[William Ballard]

On Mon, Oct 04, 2004 at 05:23:01PM -0700, Rich Rudnick wrote:
> ISP, I could access it from linux.  Another is my bank, which, although
> windows centric, provides services that I _will not_ do without. 

My online banking works 100% with Firefox in Linux.  I was shocked -- I 
expected if anybody would have problems it would be the bank.

I can even view my portfolio functions on Fidelity in Linux.  I can't 
remember if I tried trading stock.  I bet it would work.


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Headless Installation

[Adi Linden]

Is it possible to install a Debian system headless (no keyboard or monitor 
attached at any time)? A couple of possibilities come to mind. 

  A 'kickstart' like install where a single CD installs a base system
  with all parameters such as partitioning, network, etc pre-defined.

  A boot image which is accessible via ssh or VNC over the network (I
  think Suse offers something like this).

I've googled for Debian specific solutions but haven't found anything. I 
have done the 'kickstart' way using RedHat before.

Adi



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Re: Headless Installation

[Thomas Adam]

 --- Adi Linden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
>   A 'kickstart' like install where a single CD installs a base system
>   with all parameters such as partitioning, network, etc pre-defined.

You -could- (I stress could here) use 'fai', but I suspect that you'd
consider that overkill on you part. Indeed, I'd agree. What you'd really
want to do is use 'deboostrap' on the headless server. There's plenty of
documentation on how to do this.

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Re: fvwm question..

[bing yu]

On Sun, Oct 03, 2004 at 12:30:33PM -0700, Erik Steffl wrote:
> 
>   can't you setup your /mnt/media so that you don't need root? 
> something along the lines (one of the following):
sorry I did make my problem stated clearly 
I want mount /dev/hda6 to /mnt/media(the date on hda6 is mostly some
video or audio file and the mountpoint /mnt/media has the same properity
as /mnt/wind  /mnt/winf/; I use ther term 'media' indicate the data
stored on that partition of the HardDisk.

As Cameron Hutchison's reply to the list, I will check the docs of XFS
to see the permissions.


Thank you all.

> 
>   - make it owned by you
> 
>   - create media group, make /mnt/media/ writeable by group, you member 
> of the group (IIRC you need to relogin after adding yourself to the group)
> 
>   erik
> 
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Re: fvwm question..

[Cameron Hutchison]

Once upon a time bing yu said...
> 
> As Cameron Hutchison's reply to the list, I will check the docs of XFS
> to see the permissions.

I wasn't referring to anything XFS specific. XFS implements standard
unix permissions, so you want to look at the man pages for chmod and
chown.


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Re: Headless Installation

[Adi Linden]

> You -could- (I stress could here) use 'fai', but I suspect that you'd
> consider that overkill on you part. Indeed, I'd agree. What you'd really
> want to do is use 'deboostrap' on the headless server. There's plenty of
> documentation on how to do this.

To use 'deboostrap' I already need a working Unix/Linux system (reading 
). I am 
looking for something more along the line of a regular installation CD 
that is non-interactive but installs a bare Debian system automatically.

Adi


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Re: question re: removing all traces of Windows ME OS

[Jeff Golden]

> It seem to me that "as much as possible" is the operative phrase here.
> I've been using linux for over five years, debian for the last four, but
> I still retain a minimal windows install.
> 
> First, because some commercial entities I (and maybe you) deal with will
> not provide 'standards based' access. A case in point is my ISP, which
> (in my mind) provides superior service, but also provided a CD that
> required windows to set up the service.  Once I was registered with the
> ISP, I could access it from linux.  Another is my bank, which, although
> windows centric, provides services that I _will not_ do without.
> 
> The second reason is hardware support. This may not be relevant to your
> laptop, but what will you plug into it? Debian, with discover,
> read-edid, udev, hal and related software is much better at providing
> out of the box hardware support these days. Still, the fact is that
> hardware manufacturers build with windows in mind. Sometimes simply
> being able to boot to windows and install the windows drivers will
> provide you with the info you need to make the hardware work under
> linux.
> 
> So, with the above two points in mind, I would recommend that you
> repartition your hard disk with as little as you can applied to windows
> with basic internet access in mind (4 gig should be enough, I would
> think), reinstall a minimal ME, and then install debian sarge.
> 
> A basic rule of life is never burn bridges behind you. Retreat is often
> a tactical necessity.
> 

This is true but it is rather annoying to have to re-boot into windows
to do simple things like banking or dial into your office.  My
solution to the same problem is to utilize Win4Lin (commercial but it
saves me time).   It allows me to do the minimal things I need to do
for work and banking quite easily.  Also allows me to run Rhapsody
music service.  Even supports my VPN client (nortel) and PC Anywhere. 
 I would suggest having a look at that.

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Re: USB Generic Drive Storage

[Kevin Mark]

On Mon, Oct 04, 2004 at 05:40:04PM -0400, Ryan Waye wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I am attempting to use a USB Flash drive on my 2.6.7 Linux box. 
> Debian seems to detect it, here is the entry from
> /proc/bus/usb/devices file:
> 
> T:  Bus=03 Lev=01 Prnt=01 Port=01 Cnt=01 Dev#=  6 Spd=12  MxCh= 0
> D:  Ver= 1.10 Cls=00(>ifc ) Sub=00 Prot=00 MxPS= 8 #Cfgs=  1
> P:  Vendor=10d6 ProdID=1000 Rev= 1.00
> S:  Product=Generic USB Disk Device
> S:  SerialNumber=Generic USB Disk Device
> C:* #Ifs= 1 Cfg#= 1 Atr=80 MxPwr=100mA
> I:  If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 2 Cls=08(stor.) Sub=05 Prot=50 Driver=usb-storage
> E:  Ad=01(O) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS=  64 Ivl=0ms
> E:  Ad=82(I) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS=  64 Ivl=0ms
> 
> Also, lsusb shows this:
> 
> Bus 004 Device 001: ID :
> Bus 003 Device 006: ID 10d6:1000 Actions Semiconductor Co., Ltd
> Bus 003 Device 001: ID :
> Bus 002 Device 002: ID 045e:0040 Microsoft Corp. Wheel Mouse Optical
> Bus 002 Device 001: ID :
> Bus 001 Device 001: ID :
> 
> So it appears to have been detected, but how do I access it?
> 
> Sincerely, 
> Ryan Waye
> 
Hi Ryan,
check /var/log/messages
and see if it shows up. usb storage devices show up as SCSI drives:
/dev/sda1 usually.
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vsftpd has fallen and wont get up

[psychoelmo]

tonight i couldnt ftp into one of my boxes. i noticed my vsftpd log
hasnt grown or been rotated since 19 sept and find that vsftpd quit
running. it will not start back up either.

when you try to restart it, it says it's not running, and the init
script doesnt give any indication as to why it doesnt start either.
tried dpkg-reconfigure vsftpd w/ no luck. went so far as to remove it
(and configuration file) and reinstall (after a update/upgrade and a
reboot). it still wont start up (even with default configuration
file).

april:/etc# uname -a
Linux april 2.4.26-1-386 #1 Tue Aug 24 13:31:19 JST 2004 i686 GNU/Linux

system is an xp1700 w/ 1gb sdram, 20gb ide hd, kt133a, 8139c nic,
static ip/fqdn. running sarge (fairly new install, only a month or so
old), currently up-to-date. not much installed, just apache2 w/ mysql,
php4, perl. no fluff, not even x.

vsfptd logs dont tell me anything (last entry was a successful
transfer, by me on 19 sept), none of the logs do. nothing in
/var/log/* has any reference to it except the popularity-contest logs.

a second box, a p2/300 w/ 256mb ram that had deb installed on it
within a week of the this one (with almost same packages and updates
done at same time) works just fine.

any help would be met with much gratitude!


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Select old and unused packages

[Oliver Fuchs]

Hi,

is there a programm (I am using deborphan and debfoster to keep my packages
clean) that can show me packages that have not been used for a long time or
that are superflous because I do not use them?

Oliver
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Transport debian woody from laptop to PC

[Oliver Fuchs]

Hi,

I am running a debian woody box for a long time now on my laptop.
I want to install it now with the (nearly) same configuration on my PC.
Can I transport the laptop system (for example via tar) to my PC or won't
this work.
What would be the best way to do this?


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Re: Transport debian woody from laptop to PC

[Paolo Alexis Falcone]

On Tue, 5 Oct 2004 05:16:26 +0200, Oliver Fuchs
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I am running a debian woody box for a long time now on my laptop.
> I want to install it now with the (nearly) same configuration on my PC.
> Can I transport the laptop system (for example via tar) to my PC or won't
> this work.

Say for instance you placed everything in one big partition - yes this
would work.



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Re: Transport debian woody from laptop to PC

[s. keeling]

Incoming from Oliver Fuchs:
> 
> I am running a debian woody box for a long time now on my laptop.
> I want to install it now with the (nearly) same configuration on my PC.
> Can I transport the laptop system (for example via tar) to my PC or won't
> this work.

You can make Debian package management do it for you.  On the laptop,
tar up /etc to make a copy of the configuration files, then:

  dpkg --get-selections > laptop.txt

Install the base system on your PC, then:

  dpkg --set-selections < laptop.txt

Then either one of:

  apt-get update
  apt-get dselect-upgrade

or:

  aptitude update
  aptitude install

The archives at lists.debian.org mention this often.  You should think
carefully about this though.  Some apps run on a laptop may not be
appropriate on a PC.  pcmcia, anachron, ...  It shouldn't cause any
real problems you can't work around, however.


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Re: No text on console

[Jule Slootbeek]

I'm having a similar problem, I installed 2.6.8.1 and now when i switch 
to a virtual console, i get a black screen but when i hit enter, the top 
lines of my bootup appear, and after a while randomly colored blocks. I 
really have no idea what it could be.

-JSS
Nathanael Hasbrouck wrote:
I've got an interesting problem - after recompiling my kernel, I now don't 
have any text on my console.  I still have a cursor, but no text is 
actually printed after lilo starts the kernel booting.  No text on any of 
my virtual consoles, either.  Everything is fine and dandy on 2.6.6, but 
2.6.7 and 2.6.8.1 both break.

Also, buttons 6 & 7(the forward/back buttons on the side) on my 
Intellimouse Explorer don't work anymore either, but don't know if it's 
related.

Has anyone run across this before? Google hasn't told me so, if anyone has.  
dmesg output and kernel .config(s) will be posted if anyone wants to 
peruse for oddities I'm not knowledgeable enough to catch.  Console 
framebuffer *is* turned on...  

NRH
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Re: Woody or Sarge

[Paul Johnson]

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> I need to build some servers that are hopefully going to be in service for
> a long time. Most distributions I have been looking at have short support
> cycles, where in the very near future a significant upgrade/rebuild is
> required rather than just security fixes.

If you're satisfied with the existing feature set, are new features
really anywhere near as important as security fixes?  Particularly
when it comes to production servers?

> Another solution would be to go with a commercial Enterprise Linux
> (RedHat or Suse) offering. However, the annual cost of those is
> prohibitive in some circumstances.

No kidding.  There's one person on the Portland Linux User's Group
mailing list saying he's just has his up-to-date Red Hat server
compromised as many times as the Windows server it's replacing.  That
just has to be exasperating for him!

> The stable Debian release appear to be around for a very long time,
> which is exactly what I am looking for. But my question now is with
> Sarge on the horizon, how long can I expect to see security fixes
> for Woody? One year, two years, five years? What about Sarge?

Not long after the next Stable happens, because it's not hard to
upgrade in Debian.  18 months seems about average, IIRC.
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Re: Transport debian woody from laptop to PC

[Blake Swadling]

On Tue, 2004-10-05 at 13:50, Paolo Alexis Falcone wrote:
> On Tue, 5 Oct 2004 05:16:26 +0200, Oliver Fuchs
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I am running a debian woody box for a long time now on my laptop.
> > I want to install it now with the (nearly) same configuration on my PC.
> > Can I transport the laptop system (for example via tar) to my PC or won't
> > this work.

we routinely clone PCs running RedHat using by doing (almost) a simple
cp -ax. we just set up our partitions as required and do a cp -ax like
so ...

-
#!/bin/bash
CWD=`pwd`
mkswap -f /dev/hdc1
mke2fs -j -L / /dev/hdc2
mke2fs -j -L /home /dev/hdc3

mount -t ext3 /dev/hdc2 /mnt/clone
mount -t ext3 /dev/hdc4 /mnt/clone/home

cp -axv / /mnt/clone
cp -axv /home /mnt/clone

cd ${CWD}
umount /mnt/clone/home
umount /mnt/clone
--

if you want to make it bootable (when connected as a primay master) then
you have to muck around with grub or lilo to get it going. I haven't
done it with grub, but lilo used to involve doing a chroot, and
installing lilo on the second drive. the lilo.conf was set up so that it
assumed the drive was a primary master and so was not bootable until
connected properly.

--
chroot /mnt/clone
sbin/lilo -C /etc/lilo.conf.clone
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Re: Woody or Sarge

[Adi Linden]

> If you're satisfied with the existing feature set, are new features
> really anywhere near as important as security fixes?  Particularly
> when it comes to production servers?

New features aren't important at all. It is all about maintaining the 
current state of a server while keeping it secure on a hostile network. 
And with the least amount of effort, where security updates do not break 
anything...

> No kidding.  There's one person on the Portland Linux User's Group
> mailing list saying he's just has his up-to-date Red Hat server
> compromised as many times as the Windows server it's replacing.  That
> just has to be exasperating for him!

RedHat has been a frustrating experience. I put a lot of effort into 
building a few rpms for RedHat 7.1 that met some very specific needs. Also 
created a kickstart CD that loaded 'my' version of RedHat 7.1 onto 
headless servers without user intervention. When the CD popped out the box 
was accessible via ssh on the local network. So RedHat pumped out a bunch 
of releases in fairly quick succession. RedHat 8 was never fit for 
production use, IMHO. When RedHat 9 was released I was still deploying new 
servers using RedHat 7.2. Then updates for anything but RedHat Enterprise 
Linux quickly vanished. My BIG issue is the short lived support in terms 
of security updates. Having to reinstall a server after 18 month is 
totally unacceptable. 

> Not long after the next Stable happens, because it's not hard to
> upgrade in Debian.  18 months seems about average, IIRC.

This means that for longest possible support I should be looking at 
deploying Sarge, not Woody. How timely are security issues addressed in a 
Sarge?

Adi


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Re: Woody or Sarge

[Paul Johnson]

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Adi Linden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>> If you're satisfied with the existing feature set, are new features
>> really anywhere near as important as security fixes?  Particularly
>> when it comes to production servers?
>
> New features aren't important at all. It is all about maintaining the 
> current state of a server while keeping it secure on a hostile network. 
> And with the least amount of effort, where security updates do not break 
> anything...

OK, then don't worry about the release cycle.  What you get on
security.debian.org should get what you need done until the next
release.

>> Not long after the next Stable happens, because it's not hard to
>> upgrade in Debian.  18 months seems about average, IIRC.
>
> This means that for longest possible support I should be looking at 
> deploying Sarge, not Woody. How timely are security issues addressed in a 
> Sarge?

Given that you're the one supporting it, which are you willing to
support?  Right now, your safest bet is still woody, though sarge has
regular, near-daily updates (which can get annoying), as it is still,
essentially, in beta.
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Recomended dual head video card

[Nick Hastings]

Hi all,

   for reasons I won't bother going into I'm about turn a server
machine into a workstation (and perhaps occasional game machine).

There are two nice 1280x1024 17 inch digital LCD displays available
(Mitsubishi RTD179S) [1], so I thought I'd go out and get myself a nice
dual head video card. But which to choose? My budget is fairly generous.

My machines motherboard has and AGP slot so I thought an AGP card would
be best. 

I've had a bit of a look at the ATI web site and it seems that the
"FireGL Z1-128" [2] might suit me well.

I briefly looked into nvidia cards, but seem to remember there may be
some issues with drivers for 2.6 kernels.

I saw the nvidia vs ati thread a few days ago, but there seemed to be
little in the way of conclusions or specific reports of experiences
with cards. Anyone have anything to add?

Any insights would be much appreciated. This is the first time that I've
ever had to choose a video card.

Please note that I'm not scared of compiling kernels or running bleeding
edge software: I've been using 2.6 since the "pre" days and Debian
unstable for about 4 years.

TIA,

Nick.

[1] http://www.nmv.co.jp/mitsubishi/product/rdt179s/index.htm
[2] http://www.ati.com/products/workstation/fireglmatrix.html#agp

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Re: Why Grub? Must I Switch?

[cr]

On Mon, 04 Oct 2004 18:03, Daniel L. Miller wrote:
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> >"Daniel L. Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >>I don't understand that - unless your different kernel versions are
> >>all using the same filename.
> >
> >You have a basic shell.  You can type the name, and IIRC, there is tab
> >autocompletion.
>
> So you can't have an unattended boot?
>
> Daniel

You can certainly have an unattended boot - the GRUB menu comes up and, after 
a specified interval, it will go on to boot the first entry on the menu  
(unless, of course, you manually select another).

However, if you've just done a system upgrade or destroyed a kernel or 
whatever, or are just Grub-floppy-booting into a system, then you can bring 
up the  Grub command line which has, as Paul said, tab autocompletion - and 
very handy it is too for finding a kernel when you can't remember whether 
it's  vmlinuz2.4.18-bf2.4 or   vmlinuz2.4.18_bf2.4   

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Vsftpd starting-help!

[Siju George]

Hi all,

I just installed vsftpd using apt-get. Imade necessarry changes in the
config file also.

I donot know how to add an entry in the inetd.conf  to start vsftpd at
system boot.

COuld someone help me please? Is that the best way to start vsftpd? Or
if there is any other way please tell me.

Thankyou somuch

regards

Siju


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