System exiting due to kernel....

[Marco Calviani]

Hi,
 i'm currently running Debian sid with a custum 2.6.10 kernel. Whenever 
i run, for example, azureus bittorrent client for more that (nearly) 1 
hour my system exits from every program i was running under X and 
restarts the X session.


This is the /var/log/messages results of the crash moment:


12:10:34 localhost kernel: <28kB low:160kB high:192kB active:0kB 
inactive:0kB present:0kB pages_scanned:0 all_unreclaimable? no

12:10:35 localhost kernel: protections[]: 0 0 0
12:10:35 localhost kernel: DMA: 0*4kB 1*8kB 1*16kB 0*32kB 1*64kB 
0*128kB 0*256kB 0*512kB 0*1024kB 0*2048kB 0*4096kB = 88kB
12:10:35 localhost kernel: Normal: 0*4kB 4*8kB 1*16kB 1*32kB 0*64kB 
3*128kB 1*256kB 0*512kB 0*1024kB 1*2048kB 0*4096kB = 2768kB

12:10:35 localhost kernel: HighMem: empty
12:10:35 localhost kernel: Swap cache: add 249982, delete 249982, find 
3478/4101, race 0+1

12:10:35 localhost kernel: oom-killer: gfp_mask=0x1d2
12:10:35 localhost kernel: DMA per-cpu:
12:10:35 localhost kernel: cpu 0 hot: low 2, high 6, batch 1
12:10:35 localhost kernel: cpu 0 cold: low 0, high 2, batch 1
12:10:35 localhost kernel: Normal per-cpu:
12:10:35 localhost kernel: cpu 0 hot: low 32, high 96, batch 16
12:10:35 localhost kernel: cpu 0 cold: low 0, high 32, batch 16
12:10:35 localhost kernel: HighMem per-cpu: empty
12:10:35 localhost kernel:
12:10:35 localhost kernel: Free pages:2856kB (0kB HighMem)
12:10:35 localhost kernel: Active:76040 inactive:42534 dirty:0 
writeback:0 unstable:0 free:714 slab:2868 mapped:118469 pagetables:763
12:10:35 localhost kernel: DMA free:88kB min:88kB low:108kB high:132kB 
active:6888kB inactive:6132kB present:16384kB pages_scanned:144133 
all_unreclaimable? yes

12:10:35 localhost kernel: protections[]: 0 0 0
12:10:35 localhost kernel: Normal free:2768kB min:2800kB low:3500kB 
high:4200kB active:297272kB inactive:164004kB present:506752kB 
pages_scanned:6314052 all_unreclaimable? yes

12:10:35 localhost kernel: protections[]: 0 0 0
12:10:35 localhost kernel: HighMem free:0kB min:128kB low:160kB 
high:192kB active:0kB inactive:0kB present:0kB pages_scanned:0 
all_unreclaimable? no

12:10:35 localhost kernel: protections[]: 0 0 0
12:10:35 localhost kernel: DMA: 0*4kB 1*8kB 1*16kB 0*32kB 1*64kB 
0*128kB 0*256kB 0*512kB 0*1024kB 0*2048kB 0*4096kB = 88kB
12:10:35 localhost kernel: Normal: 0*4kB 4*8kB 1*16kB 1*32kB 0*64kB 
3*128kB 1*256kB 0*512kB 0*1024kB 1*2048kB 0*4096kB = 2768kB

12:10:35 localhost kernel: HighMem: empty
12:10:35 localhost kernel: Swap cache: add 249982, delete 249982, find 
3478/4101, race 0+1

12:10:35 localhost kernel: oom-killer: gfp_mask=0x1d2
12:10:35 localhost kernel: DMA per-cpu:
12:10:35 localhost kernel: cpu 0 hot: low 2, high 6, batch 1
12:10:35 localhost kernel: cpu 0 cold: low 0, high 2, batch 1
12:10:35 localhost kernel: Normal per-cpu:
12:10:35 localhost kernel: cpu 0 hot: low 32, high 96, batch 16
12:10:35 localhost kernel: cpu 0 cold: low 0, high 32, batch 16
12:10:35 localhost kernel: HighMem per-cpu: empty
12:10:35 localhost kernel:
12:10:35 localhost kernel: Free pages:2856kB (0kB HighMem)
12:10:35 localhost kernel: Active:76076 inactive:42498 dirty:0 
writeback:0 unstable:0 free:714 slab:2875 mapped:118469 pagetables:763
12:10:35 localhost kernel: DMA free:88kB min:88kB low:108kB high:132kB 
active:6888kB inactive:6132kB present:16384kB pages_scanned:155653 
all_unreclaimable? yes

12:10:35 localhost kernel: protections[]: 0 0 0
12:10:35 localhost kernel: Normal free:2768kB min:2800kB low:3500kB 
high:4200kB active:297416kB inactive:163860kB present:506752kB 
pages_scanned:6532666 all_unreclaimable? yes

12:10:35 localhost kernel: protections[]: 0 0 0
12:10:35 localhost kernel: HighMem free:0kB min:128kB low:160kB 
high:192kB active:0kB inactive:0kB present:0kB pages_scanned:0 
all_unreclaimable? no

12:10:36 localhost kernel: protections[]: 0 0 0
12:10:36 localhost kernel: DMA: 0*4kB 1*8kB 1*16kB 0*32kB 1*64kB 
0*128kB 0*256kB 0*512kB 0*1024kB 0*2048kB 0*4096kB = 88kB
12:10:36 localhost kernel: Normal: 0*4kB 4*8kB 1*16kB 1*32kB 0*64kB 
3*128kB 1*256kB 0*512kB 0*1024kB 1*2048kB 0*4096kB = 2768kB

12:10:36 localhost kernel: HighMem: empty
12:10:36 localhost kernel: Swap cache: add 249982, delete 249982, find 
3478/4101, race 0+1

12:10:36 localhost kernel: oom-killer: gfp_mask=0x1d2
12:10:36 localhost kernel: DMA per-cpu:
12:10:36 localhost kernel: cpu 0 hot: low 2, high 6, batch 1
12:10:36 localhost kernel: cpu 0 cold: low 0, high 2, batch 1
12:10:36 localhost kernel: Normal per-cpu:
12:10:36 localhost kernel: cpu 0 hot: low 32, high 96, batch 16
12:10:36 localhost kernel: cpu 0 cold: low 0, high 32, batch 16
12:10:36 localhost kernel: HighMem per-cpu: empty
12:10:36 localhost kernel:
12:10:36 localhost kernel: Free pages:2856kB (0kB HighMem)
12:10:36 localhost kernel: Active:76073 inactive:42501 dirty:0 
writeback:0 unstable:0 free:714 slab:2878 mapped:118469 pagetables:763
12:10:36 localhost kernel: DMA free:88kB min:88kB low:108kB high:132kB 

Re: Looking for software Debian Sarge

[Mirko Parthey]

On Wed, Jun 29, 2005 at 06:52:28PM -0500, Sergio Cuéllar Valdés wrote:
> Yes, that is a good idea. I have made a couple of debian packages for
> myself. But, how do I look for a sponsor ?  The packages that I 've
> made are very simple, this one, zoneminder, needs a previous
> configuration before compiling it, it also needs apache and mysql, so,
> I think it's more diffcult, isnt't it ?

A good place to ask these questions is the debian-mentors list:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-mentors/

You might want to read the FAQ before posting:
http://people.debian.org/~mpalmer/debian-mentors_FAQ.html

Mirko


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Re: Cellular Data Service

[Nate Duehr]

Rhomboid wrote:
Anyone have a working laptop/cellular phone (or cellular wifi card) 
combination running on Linux on a US provider (Cingular/Verizon EDGE 
network or similar)?


It's slow, but the Sony GC79 combo 802.11b and GSM card works okay.  I 
use one on T-mobile's network.  56K down, 28K up max.


GSM acts like a regular old modem to pcmcia, and you feed it odd dialing 
strings that I found documented online.  802.11b is working with 
ndiswrapper and the windows driver.


Someone asked me recently if I'd done any work to figure out how to get 
special information out of it on the GSM side like signal strength. 
Nope.  Sorry.  Not sure if anyone has yet or not.


Nate


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Re: MythTV

[Steve Lamb]

Paul Johnson wrote:
> You haven't seen the series 2 tivos, or any of the hacks you can do to 
> an original tivo.

I certainly haven't and don't think it is relevant.  In today's litigation
happy culture I would not want to have to rely on hacks of any box to provide
something it isn't "supposed" to do (DCMA rears its ugly head) or put stock in
what a company provides now will always continue to be the case in the future.
 Give me something I've built and have control over from the hardware to the
software.

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Re: MythTV

[Paul Johnson]

On Wednesday June 29 2005 10:59 pm, Daniel Johnson wrote:

> Also a tivo can only be used as a tivo. The videos are locked to
> the machine. You can't play them back over the network. There are
> plenty of disadvantages to go along with the advantages.

You haven't seen the series 2 tivos, or any of the hacks you can do to 
an original tivo.

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Re: MythTV

[Hal Vaughan]

On Wednesday 29 June 2005 09:14 pm, Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Wednesday June 29 2005 10:38 am, Matt Price wrote:
> > just curious -- how much do you figure on spending for this
> > project? I'm interested in MythTV too, but it seems quite expensive
> > to build one's own box compared e.g. to buyint a tivo.  am I wrong
> > about this?
>
> A couple key factors come into play when comparing a MythTV setup to a
> TiVo:
>
> 1) Do you already have the hardware to build a MythTV?
>
> This project will be considerably cheaper than TiVo if you already
> have the hardware lying around.
>
> 2) Do you plan on keeping your PVR around more than a couple years?
>
> MythTV will be cheaper than TiVo even with a lifetime subscription if
> you're in it for the super-long term.

One other consideration is if your service provider provides any type of 
service.  While I'm planning on eventually building a Myth TV box, I have 
Comcast, and they provide a DVR unit for free (which can be $300 or $400 or 
more for a TiVo), and their monthly fee is less than TiVo.  My Comcast DVR 
has a firewire port, but I understand that only works for HDTV output, which 
I don't yet have.  Otherwise, I could play back a program on my DVR directly 
to my VCR/DVD Burner box.  It also has an ethernet port, but I understand 
that isn't in use yet.  Still, with no upfront charge, it's nice to use until 
I get the time to build a system with MythTV, a CD ripper and playback system 
and everything else in one Linux based entertainment system to replace MOST 
of the equipment in my current entertainment center.

Also, I don't know if this is a factor or not, but most of the channels I want 
to record are digital cable (that includes BBC America, Sci-Fi and many 
others).  I don't know if Myth TV or any other homebrew system handles 
digital cable signals.

Hal


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Re: MythTV

[Daniel Johnson]

On 6/29/05, Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Wednesday June 29 2005 10:38 am, Matt Price wrote:> just curious -- how much do you figure on spending for this> project? I'm interested in MythTV too, but it seems quite expensive> to build one's own box compared 
e.g. to buyint a tivo.  am I wrong> about this?A couple key factors come into play when comparing a MythTV setup to aTiVo:1) Do you already have the hardware to build a MythTV?This project will be considerably cheaper than TiVo if you already
have the hardware lying around.2) Do you plan on keeping your PVR around more than a couple years?MythTV will be cheaper than TiVo even with a lifetime subscription ifyou're in it for the super-long term.

Also a tivo can only be used as a tivo.  The videos are locked to
the machine.  You can't play them back over the network. 
There are plenty of disadvantages to go along with the
advantages.  

Re: dpkg -l question

[Bill Marcum]

On Wed, Jun 29, 2005 at 09:20:55PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hello,
> I see that when I run
> # dpkg -l
> 
> I get a nice listing of installed packages, but if I pipe
> that command into less or more or even grep ,
> then the listing gets scrunched up, and it cuts off the end of packages 
> with longer names.
> Is there a way to display it to show the long name? or
> is there a better way to get a partial dpkg -l listing?
> 
COLUMNS=256 dpkg -l


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Re: question about sarge and Sony Vaio PCG V505 EX

[Simon]

Marcelo Chiapparini wrote:

Hi all,

I want to install sarge in a Sony Vaio PCG V505 EX laptop. I didn't find 
anything about it in the list. Besides, in the site 
http://www.linux-laptop.net/ there is only information about woody and 
gentoo on a Vaio PCG V505 BX...  Does anybody in this list have any 
experience with sarge and PCG V505 EX?


Thanks in advance for any help!

Regards

Marcelo




A good idea is to try a Live CD, if that works well - you can pretty 
much guess that an install is (mainly) going to work..?



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Re: dpkg -l question

[michael]

Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


Hello,
I see that when I run
# dpkg -l

I get a nice listing of installed packages, but if I pipe
that command into less or more or even grep ,
then the listing gets scrunched up, and it cuts off the end of 
packages with longer names.

Is there a way to display it to show the long name? or
is there a better way to get a partial dpkg -l listing?


ah yes,

man dpkg showed
dpkg --get-selections

That should work nicely,
Cheers,
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Re: question about sarge and Sony Vaio PCG V505 EX

[Almut Behrens]

On Wed, Jun 29, 2005 at 03:06:54PM -0300, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I want to install sarge in a Sony Vaio PCG V505 EX laptop. I didn't find 
> anything about it in the list. Besides, in the site 
> http://www.linux-laptop.net/ there is only information about woody and 
> gentoo on a Vaio PCG V505 BX...  Does anybody in this list have any 
> experience with sarge and PCG V505 EX?

I don't have any experience with the PCG V505 EX, but I'd think if it's
supposed to work with woody, things should be fine with sarge, too. 
Generally, hardware support is improving over time...

So, if you already own the Vaio, why not simply try to install?
OTOH, if you're still pondering about whether to purchase it... well,
then better not take my words as any kind of promise whatsoever! :)

Almut


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dpkg -l question

[michael]

Hello,
I see that when I run
# dpkg -l

I get a nice listing of installed packages, but if I pipe
that command into less or more or even grep ,
then the listing gets scrunched up, and it cuts off the end of packages 
with longer names.

Is there a way to display it to show the long name? or
is there a better way to get a partial dpkg -l listing?

Thanks!
cheers,
Mike
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Re: Avidemux won't open 2,8GB movie

[Almut Behrens]

On Wed, Jun 29, 2005 at 09:45:51PM +0200, Vegard|drageV wrote:
> Avidemux works fine with smaller movies (typically 700MB), but gives
> an errormessage in the commandwindow:
> 
> Images stat:___Max memory consumed (MB) : 0
> Current memory consumed (MB) : 0
> Max image used   : 0
> Cur image used   : 0
> #0  0x407330f4 in g_on_error_stack_trace () from /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0
> #1  0x0809e9c7 in sig_segfault_handler ()
> #2  0x40e06825 in __pthread_sighandler () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
> #3  
> #4  0x0836003e in _3GPHeader::buildIndex ()
> ...
> #25 0x08360f46 in adm_atom::read32 ()

I do not have the foggiest as to how Avidemux is implemented, but this
read32() remotely sounds like there might be a problem with "large file
support" (LFS).  Absence of the latter means that either the system
calls or program-internal variables use 32-bit long ints to represent
sizes and file offsets.
IOW, in this case, maximal file size is 2^31 = 2147483647 ~ 2GB...

Can't tell you exactly what to do to solve the problem (if that _is_
the problem at all), but adding those keywords "large file support" to
your google searches _might_ steer you in the right direction... :)

Maybe you can recompile the app with some configure option enabling
LFS.  As a last resort, messing with the sources itself might also
be an option (in theory), though that's likely to get a little too
involved...[1]
Can't be more precise, sorry.

Almut


[1] typically, it would mean adding two defines at the top of the source,
before including header files (or passing them as -D options to gcc):

#define _LARGEFILE_SOURCE   

#define _FILE_OFFSET_BITS 64


but depending on how the rest of the code is written, this doesn't
necessarily guarantee anything...


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Re: resolv.conf

[Craig Russell]

David R. Litwin wrote:


I think I have determined why my system keeps having two internet
connections at boot-up: /etc/resolv.conf has two nameservers. When I
delete one and re-boot, lo and behold, the second is back.

The question, then, is this: What is writing to resolv.conf that makes
it have two nameservers? Perhaps rp-pppoe.so? I found where this is,
but I do not know how to edit the file. Is this the problem? If so,
how do I edit it?

Much appreciated and a thank you in advance.
 

Your resolv.conf file has nothing to do with how your interfaces are 
being configured.  If it is being written too at bootup then you must be 
using dhcp to get assigned some of your information.  It is definitely a 
good idea to have at least 2 nameservers so that your ISP can take one 
down for maintenance, etc and you won't be dead in the water. 

I'm coming in the middle of this thread so I'm not really sure about the 
rest of your question.  Sounds like you are getting multiple pppoe 
interfaces configured at boot time?  I used to use pppoe for my wireless 
isp service but was forced to drop it due to the latency in the wireless 
links.  Maybe if you repeat your initial question to me, I might be able 
to help more.


Craig Russell
AirDigitalNetwork.com


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resolv.conf

[David R. Litwin]

I think I have determined why my system keeps having two internet
connections at boot-up: /etc/resolv.conf has two nameservers. When I
delete one and re-boot, lo and behold, the second is back.

The question, then, is this: What is writing to resolv.conf that makes
it have two nameservers? Perhaps rp-pppoe.so? I found where this is,
but I do not know how to edit the file. Is this the problem? If so,
how do I edit it?

Much appreciated and a thank you in advance.
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Re: debian hosting service

[Jerome BENOIT]

Thanks for the reply:

Carl Fink wrote:

On Thu, Jun 30, 2005 at 03:39:10AM +0100, Jerome BENOIT wrote:



is there compagny which offer something as remote-backup ?



I'm not sure what your question is.


Before I read this serie of email I did not know `hosting services':
I went to some of the suggested sites, and I saw what is about,
and I realized that I could remotely backup my computer (a laptop)
if I subscribe for such a service. Unfortunately the price is quite hight
and the offered servive is far higher. So I was just wondeing if there
is some `hosting services' but with lower price just to make backup.



I use my Rimuhosting server to back up a production server, with rsync, if
that's what you need to do.  Rimuhosting also offers a separate FTP space
that can be used to back up your virtual server.


I guess that I was looking for something like that:
is there any other Rimuhosting (in particular in Europe) ?

Thanks,
Jerome


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Re: sarge and software patents

[Marty]

Guillaume TESSIER wrote:

Marty wrote:



Therefore the obvious answer I think, is to
set up servers in locations that are free of such laws. And even in
the unlikely event that all countries outlaw some kinds of software
(e.g. via treaties) there have been proposals for dealing with that
as well. I have read articles about locating certain types of
services on the high seas although I don't know if any of those exist
now.

That could be a good idea if you only practise in your room. I don't 
think the police gonna hit your door and swat run into you house to get 
you computer.

But many opensource software will leave the enterprise field.


In 25 countries with declining growth, yes.  Hundreds of other countries
may realize that they gain a competetive advantage by not cutting their
own throats with software patents (and other "IP" laws).  They might even
have a means to exploit that advantage if distros like debian set up their
development to circumvent such local "censorship."  Who knows?  You might
end up working in one of those countries when your job is outsourced.   ;-)

My skills onto opensource POSIX systems is what i sell to companies and 
what allow me to have a decent life.
If tomorrow my job is to migrate Linux plateforms onto windows, then 
i'll feel like shit and will soon be unemployed. And my CV will be so 
great : "specialized in illegal system". Nice.


People in the USA have lived with patent for a really long time. I guess 
most of the debian users of this list has always lived under the patent 
regn.


The US also lived with the encription export restrictions, and we saw those
eventually fall due to market pressure from countries that didn't have
those restrictions.  The role played by free software was crucial.


But, in Europe, we had the luck to avoid this so far.
You can imagin how many european developers and users may feel by now.

But it's not over. There is still some luck to avoid this. The vote 
hasn't be done yet.


If you plan for the worst, you are less likely to be disappointed and
more likely to be ready for the worst, and perhaps more likely to survive
and turn the tide after the worst has happened.

Like people of this list, Linux users are perfectionnists. We like to 
use the best software. And it's even best when opensource and when you 
make a living out of it.

That's what i like in IT : it's a passion and you make a living out of it.
But my whole employment sector could fall down.

Sorry, i just feel sick.


I'm trying to be pragmatic, not just offer consolation or false hope.
Assume things will get worse before they get better, and unfortunately
you probably won't be wrong or disappointed, but instead of fretting
about it you ("you" being Debian users and developers) could channel that
concern into action that mitigates the worst case scenario, and it seems
to me that means "hardening" Debian's development process against all
forms of local control and censorship.  How to do this may be an enormously
complex problem.  For Debian developers this may be the best way to channel
their concerns, instead of fretting or depending on activism alone, which
may just detract from the energy required to solve the problem.



G





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Re: webmin will not update

[Jaldhar H. Vyas]

On Wed, 29 Jun 2005, Maurice O'Regan wrote:


The version of Webmin which downloaded by default on a complete new
denian 3.1, actuall had little or no functionality, like the older ver
.94 had, after a fresh install. ie no Server Tab , in fact almost
nothing useful.
As soon as .94 was updated from within itself, then it had 'everything'

The ver 1.180 as downloaded seems to have little or no functionality, or
perhaps I am missing something by way of configuration ??



Ah now I understand the problem.  The upstream webmin tarball is split up 
into many smaller Debian packages, usually one module per package.  The 
package "webmin" just contains the basic webmin functionality.  If you use 
a package manager like aptitude and search for webmin you'll see lots of 
packages like webmin-mysql, webmin-postfix, webmin-ldap-useradmin etc. 
Just install the ones you need.


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Re: installing sarge to lvm

[Roberto C. Sanchez]

On Wed, Jun 29, 2005 at 11:39:03PM -0400, Rick Pasotto wrote:
> I'm confused by the sarge installer. I have a single 250g hard drive
> that I would like to manage entirely with lvm. The installer wants to
> partition the drive *before* configuring lvm but I thought that
> partitions existed within the lvm. Have I misunderstood? How should I do
> the initial partitioning? Do I setup a small boot and then the rest as
> root? 
> 

You need at least one partition to make the physical volume for LVM.
Additionally, I would do this:

/dev/hda1: XX MB (swap)
/dev/hda2: 64 MB (/boot)
/dev/hda3: 512 MB (/)
/dev/hda4: the rest (LVM PV)

I suggest that because having /boot and / on an LVM logical volume can
get to be a pain when it comes to booting.

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installing sarge to lvm

[Rick Pasotto]

I'm confused by the sarge installer. I have a single 250g hard drive
that I would like to manage entirely with lvm. The installer wants to
partition the drive *before* configuring lvm but I thought that
partitions existed within the lvm. Have I misunderstood? How should I do
the initial partitioning? Do I setup a small boot and then the rest as
root? 

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Re: Woody-> Sarge. System won't reboot cleanly

[Robert S]

> I'm not sure you want to be running the 386 kernel.
> Try installing one the amd kernels, perhaps the 2.6.8-2-k7 kernel-image.
>
> You could also try resetting your bios back to defaults.
>

I've tried the following with no success:

resetting bios settings
"apm=power-off" in lilo.conf
installing apmd and modprobe apm
hand-compiled k6 kernel (k7 won't work)

I'd prefer to stick to 2.6.x kernel because of udev, but if I'm out of the 
office people will be confused if it doesn't reboot and it might be 
necessary to do this remotely.

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Re: debian hosting service

[Carl Fink]

On Thu, Jun 30, 2005 at 03:39:10AM +0100, Jerome BENOIT wrote:

> is there compagny which offer something as remote-backup ?

I'm not sure what your question is.

I use my Rimuhosting server to back up a production server, with rsync, if
that's what you need to do.  Rimuhosting also offers a separate FTP space
that can be used to back up your virtual server.
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Re: MySQL setup cloning?

[Carl Fink]

On Wed, Jun 29, 2005 at 10:53:16PM -0400, Wayne Topa wrote:

> mysqldump -A > backup-file.sql   (on main server)
> 
> mysql  database < backup-file.sql (on backup server)
> 
> man mysqldunp

EXACTLY what I needed.  You're a lifesaver.  Thanks.
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Re: debian hosting service

[Jerome BENOIT]

Hello,

is there compagny which offer something as remote-backup ?


Thanks,
Jerome 



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Jason Edson wrote:


On 6/28/05, John Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 


On Tue, 28 Jun 2005 09:17:03 -0400, Mark D Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

  


can anyone recommend a good hosting company



I'm considering using http://www.velocityserver.com/ since they offer
a dedicated server for $69.95 monthly and will preinstall debian.

Anybody know much about them?


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I second dreamhost.com they are a good service. Best I've ever used.

 



$70 dollars seems a bit steep.

You could have a look at   http://easyspeedy.com which seems a bit cheaper.

I haven't used them myself but they regularly advertise on 
www.distrowatch.com (highly recommended site) and look like a 
professional outfit.  They also have a whole stack of available distros 
of which debian sarge is the latest addition.


Allen.





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Re: MySQL setup cloning?

[Wayne Topa]

Carl Fink([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said:
> Is there some simple way to duplicate a MySQL setup from one server to
> another, with all tables, queries, and accounts/passwords?  Perhaps just
> copying certain files?
> 
> I'm not a MySQL expert (obviously), just trying to have a warm backup server
> ready if the main one goes down.  I don't need two-way replication at all,
> just the ability to manually copy everything over once a day or so.
> 
> Thanks.

mysqldump -A > backup-file.sql   (on main server)

mysql  database < backup-file.sql (on backup server)

man mysqldunp

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Re: MySQL setup cloning?

[Robert Vangel]

Carl Fink wrote:

Is there some simple way to duplicate a MySQL setup from one server to
another, with all tables, queries, and accounts/passwords?  Perhaps just
copying certain files?

I'm not a MySQL expert (obviously), just trying to have a warm backup server
ready if the main one goes down.  I don't need two-way replication at all,
just the ability to manually copy everything over once a day or so.

Thanks.
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This was just a quick search on google, you might want to have a look at 
 http://dev.mysql.com/doc/mysql/en/replication-faq.html


Dirtier, maybe copying the /var/lib/mysql/ directory would also do the 
trick and restarting the service once the copy is finished.


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Re: Perl upgrade risks

[Almut Behrens]

On Wed, Jun 29, 2005 at 05:57:25PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote:
> Almut Behrens wrote:
> > (2) Install the new perl 5.8.7 in /usr/local and leave 5.6.1 as it is.
> > This is probably the safest bet.  In your software that needs >5.8.0,
> > make sure you're calling the new version
> 
> This doesn't work to well with packages since the packages in question
> could contain a dependancy to the Perl 5.8 package.  So it's now getting into
> a triple nasty hack.
> 
> 1: get Perl 5.8 into /usr/local
> 2: trick any packages that depend on 5.8 that it is installed when it isn't.
> 3: Pay attention to those packages and manually fix them... every update... to
> point to the peron in /usr/local
> 
> Nasty business, esp. point3, and extremely prone to failure.

yes, absolutely correct.

> 
> Better way to do it is this.  Yes, there can be problems when upgrading to
> a newer version of a dependancy (in this case, Perl).  What you can do is
> install the old version in /usr/local, change all your custom scripts over to
> that version and then upgrade.  If any system scripts have a problem with the
> upgrade that is buggable and should be handled by Debian.  Custom scripts
> would still use the old version and you can then, one by one, run them against
> the newer version of perl.  If they still work, remove the local.  If they
> don't you can then debug without worry about not having said script for an
> extended period of time.

My impression was that the OP needs a _temporary_ solution for a single
perl program.  In that case, I'm not entirely sure which way round
(5.8.x or 5.6.1 in /usr/local) would cause more work and problems.
Well, I guess both approaches have their pros and cons.

BTW, doesn't the perl from sarge require a newer libc than what is in
woody? -- which would typically open up another can of worms... (unless
you're building perl yourself, of course)

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Re: torrents

[Paul Johnson]

On Wednesday June 29 2005 12:36 pm, Jessica Kong wrote:
> Hello. I found your e-mail on a website, and I hope you could help
> me. I downloaded the torrent file and have it saved. But when I
> tried to open it, it either say it could not open and I should try
> to install it again or that Windows Media player does not support
> the file or the codec. This happened so many times, even when I
> tried to download the torrent again. Can you please help me fix it?

The .torrent file is a lot like a symbolic link or a Windows shortcut:  
It only points to where the real content is.  You need a bittorrent 
program to open the .torrent file, which will download the content 
you're really after at that point.

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Re: MythTV

[Paul Johnson]

On Wednesday June 29 2005 10:38 am, Matt Price wrote:
> just curious -- how much do you figure on spending for this
> project? I'm interested in MythTV too, but it seems quite expensive
> to build one's own box compared e.g. to buyint a tivo.  am I wrong
> about this?

A couple key factors come into play when comparing a MythTV setup to a 
TiVo:

1) Do you already have the hardware to build a MythTV?

This project will be considerably cheaper than TiVo if you already 
have the hardware lying around.

2) Do you plan on keeping your PVR around more than a couple years?

MythTV will be cheaper than TiVo even with a lifetime subscription if 
you're in it for the super-long term.

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Re: Perl upgrade risks

[Steve Lamb]

Almut Behrens wrote:
> (2) Install the new perl 5.8.7 in /usr/local and leave 5.6.1 as it is.
> This is probably the safest bet.  In your software that needs >5.8.0,
> make sure you're calling the new version

This doesn't work to well with packages since the packages in question
could contain a dependancy to the Perl 5.8 package.  So it's now getting into
a triple nasty hack.

1: get Perl 5.8 into /usr/local
2: trick any packages that depend on 5.8 that it is installed when it isn't.
3: Pay attention to those packages and manually fix them... every update... to
point to the peron in /usr/local

Nasty business, esp. point3, and extremely prone to failure.

Better way to do it is this.  Yes, there can be problems when upgrading to
a newer version of a dependancy (in this case, Perl).  What you can do is
install the old version in /usr/local, change all your custom scripts over to
that version and then upgrade.  If any system scripts have a problem with the
upgrade that is buggable and should be handled by Debian.  Custom scripts
would still use the old version and you can then, one by one, run them against
the newer version of perl.  If they still work, remove the local.  If they
don't you can then debug without worry about not having said script for an
extended period of time.


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MySQL setup cloning?

[Carl Fink]

Is there some simple way to duplicate a MySQL setup from one server to
another, with all tables, queries, and accounts/passwords?  Perhaps just
copying certain files?

I'm not a MySQL expert (obviously), just trying to have a warm backup server
ready if the main one goes down.  I don't need two-way replication at all,
just the ability to manually copy everything over once a day or so.

Thanks.
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Protecting against spoofing with IPTABLES

[Simon]

Hi There,

Using debian testing with two ethernet cards.. To get eth1 (on a 
seperate subne) working correctly, ive had to change 
/proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/eth1/rp_filter to 0. Now i need a simple 
solution to protect against spoofing attacks on this interface... I have 
an example setup, but i want to make sure i have it correct.. can 
someone confirm for me?...


iptables -F
iptables -A INPUT -i lo -j ACCEPT
iptables -N SPOOF
iptables -A SPOOF -i eth1 -j SPOOF

Is this correct - or have i got it ALL wrong.

Thanks

Simon


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Re: Perl upgrade risks

[Almut Behrens]

On Wed, Jun 29, 2005 at 05:45:56PM -0300, Antonio Lobato wrote:
> 
>   I have a Debian Woody server running a lot of services such as 
> cyrus/postfix, apache, mysql-server, jabberd2, and more... Such as a 
> good woody system, my Perl is 5.6.1, and there are tons of scripts 
> that I made and even normal system scripts that uses this perl 
> version. Now I'll install a software (bandersnatch, for jabberd2 chat 
> logging) that needs Perl 5.8.0 a least.
> 
>   Well, I can pinning the system to woody/oldstable and upgrade only 
> Perl to 5.8.7 (stable), but my question is: Will such Perl upgrade 
> (from 5.6.1 to 5.8.7) break some old script?
>   
>   This is a production server and I have to be sure that I can do it. 

I don't think there's a clear Yes or No answer. It very much depends on
exactly what features the perl code in question is using.
Having issued that warning, I should add that, according to my
experience with upgrading perl versions, it usually doesn't cause any
problems -- except if the code contains exceptionally dirty hacks.
The main problem here is that you'd typically not know...

So, I think, you essentially have two options:

(1) Read through all "perldelta"[1] documents to get an idea of what
has changed from version to version, and then somehow figure out whether
any of that applies to the perl code you're using.  (Definitely sounds
like a lot of work, with an unsure outcome...)

(2) Install the new perl 5.8.7 in /usr/local and leave 5.6.1 as it is.
This is probably the safest bet.  In your software that needs >5.8.0,
make sure you're calling the new version, i.e. replace #!/usr/bin/perl
with #!/usr/local/bin/perl (or wherever you've put it).
I'm not entirely sure how involved it is to install the standard debian
package in a different location (such that the binary also pulls in its
correct libs...(!)), so in case of doubt I'd "simply" build perl from
source.

Good luck,
Almut

[1] with each perl version there's a perldelta.pod file containing the
changes since the previous release (there's also a "Changes" file, but
that's probably too detailed for the purpose at hand).  You can read it
with "perldoc perldelta", but as mentioned, that only contains the most
recent changes.  To get an idea of the cumulative changes from 5.6.1 to
5.8.7, you'd have to read (and merge in your head) all perldelta files
that have appeared in between...  In case you're still not scared off
by now ;)  you can find them all here:
http://perldoc.perl.org/perl.html#Miscellaneous


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FreePort Software

[Robert Wolfe]

HI all!  Was wondering if anyone would know where I can get a copy of the 
FreePort freenet software as I am wanting to set up a small community 
FreeNet-type system here in Lancaster, NY and I noticed some of the older 
freenets use the FreePort software and I would like to use that myself. 
Any leads would be greatly appreciated.


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Re: Looking for software Debian Sarge

[Sergio Cuéllar Valdés]

2005/6/29, Roberto C. Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> If you use it, you should file and RFP or package it yourself (it is
> easy) and look for a sponsor.  Seems like a good program, but I would
> have no use for it (and thus am not interested in packaging it).

Yes, that is a good idea. I have made a couple of debian packages for
myself. But, how do I look for a sponsor ?  The packages that I 've
made are very simple, this one, zoneminder, needs a previous
configuration before compiling it, it also needs apache and mysql, so,
I think it's more diffcult, isnt't it ?

Cheers,
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Re: devmapper mount names

[Wayne Topa]

Joel Johnson([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said:
> >> A basic question that I can't seem to find an answer to (maybe not so
> >> basic?).
> >>
> >> Using LVM and therefore devmapper, the volume names are such that >they
> >> are accessible under /dev/mapper/-. Likewise, these
> >> names are used in reporting (du, df, mount, etc...). I would prefer >to
> >> have the volumes reported directly as their dev names, so
> >> /dev/mapper/volgroup-root should be /dev/volgroup/root. The volumes 
> >are
> >> accessible this way, and if I use those entries in fstab it works 
> >fine,
> >> but still get reported under the /dev/mapper/* headers.
> >>
> >> My best guess is that it has something to do with the order of the
> >> lookup of devices, but I don't have any idea how to modify that. Is 
> >this
> >> possible? Is there a reason not to want such a presentation?
> 
> That mounts the drives just fine, I use the shorter names in my fstab 
> currently. However, when using (as an example) 'df' to view filesystems, 
> the name is listed as the full /dev/mapper/* device.
> 
> I would like to use shorter entries in fstab - this works already. What 
> I would also like to be able to have happen, is df and the like display 
> the shorter name /dev/{volgroup}/{volname}.
> 
> Any ideas?

No realy.  I use the pydf package, instead of df, which shows that
somewhat differently.  Other that that I don't have a clue.

pydf
Filesystem   Size  Used Avail  Use% [] Mounted on
/dev/hda2455M  151M  279M  35.0 [### ] /
tmpfs251M   12k  251M   0.0 [] /dev/shm
/dev/ma~lv_home 1023M  784M  239M  77.0 [##  ] /home
/dev/hda1 51M   20M   28M  41.0 [### ] /boot
/dev/ma~-lv_usr 5119M 2145M 2974M  42.0 [### ] /usr
/dev/ma~v_local 1023M   57M  966M   6.0 [] /usr/local
/dev/ma~_backup 3071M   32M 3039M   1.0 [] /backups
/dev/ma~re-pgm3 5119M 2880M 2239M  56.0 [] /pgm3
/dev/ma~e-album 5119M   95M 5024M   2.0 [] /album
/dev/hda5   1345M  427M  845M  34.0 [### ] /var
/dev/hdb9   2816M 1132M 1540M  42.0 [### ] /extra
/dev/pk~dvd/dvd 4481M  395M 4085M   9.0 [#   ] /media/dvd

Wayne

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DBM support for mod_rewrite

[Nicklas Bondesson]

I'm unable to get DBM support for mod_rewrite when compiling from source.
This is however working in Debian Woody. What have changed in Sarge that
affect this behaviour?

Software:
- Apache 1.3.33 and Debian (sarge).

This is what I get:
+ adding selected modules
o rewrite_module uses ConfigStart/End
  disabling DBM support for mod_rewrite
  (perhaps you need to add -ldbm, -lndbm or -lgdbm to EXTRA_LIBS)

I have tried adding LIBS="-ldbm -lndbm -lgdbm" to ./configure without any
luck.

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Re: Dialer Problems-Only Pon Works

[Debian User Leonard Chatagnier]

Kent West wrote:


Debian User Leonard Chatagnier wrote:

 


Kent West wrote:

   


Debian User Leonard Chatagnier wrote:

 


I still get the warning about can't write PAP-secrets and
Chap-secrets-Permission denied, when calling wvdial as user.  
   


What is the Debian preferred way to do this?
   


Is your user a member of the dip and dialout groups?
 


Yes, they are.  However, I think I may have added my user id my
editing with nano.  When I use adduser
it says the user is already in the group.
   



Adding the user manually is fine.

Since that's not the problem, and since I'm not a user of dialup, I'm
out of ideas. Hopefully others will be able to help.

 


Kent, thanks again for your help.  We'll just let this die a natural death.
Over and Out.

Leoanard


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Re: apache 1.33 ?

[Almut Behrens]

On Wed, Jun 29, 2005 at 04:38:40PM +0200, Brent Clark wrote:
> ...
> 
>  Alias /dspam "/var/www/dspam/html/"
> 
> 
>   DocumentRoot "/var/www/dspam/html"
> ...
> 
> Every Time type in my URL and leave out the alias, the Dspam alias still 
> kicks in and for the likes of me, I cant figure it out.

I suspect it's not the alias, but rather the DocumentRoot
"/var/www/dspam/html" in the virtual host section that kicks in...
Have you tried setting that to the appropriate directory?

Almut


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Re: sarge and software patents

[Guillaume TESSIER]

Marty wrote:


ress the root problem.

IMNSHO there will always be some countries that outlaw some kinds of
free software, but it's unlikely that all countries will outlaw any
kinds of free software.



Marty, i'm speaking about the European Union. This ain't 2 or 3 
countries. This is the whole west europe and this gather 25 countries. 
This law will be a directive and therefore apply to the whole 25 
countries, whatever the y vote yes or no.



Therefore the obvious answer I think, is to
set up servers in locations that are free of such laws. And even in
the unlikely event that all countries outlaw some kinds of software
(e.g. via treaties) there have been proposals for dealing with that
as well. I have read articles about locating certain types of
services on the high seas although I don't know if any of those exist
now.

That could be a good idea if you only practise in your room. I don't 
think the police gonna hit your door and swat run into you house to get 
you computer.

But many opensource software will leave the enterprise field.
My skills onto opensource POSIX systems is what i sell to companies and 
what allow me to have a decent life.
If tomorrow my job is to migrate Linux plateforms onto windows, then 
i'll feel like shit and will soon be unemployed. And my CV will be so 
great : "specialized in illegal system". Nice.


People in the USA have lived with patent for a really long time. I guess 
most of the debian users of this list has always lived under the patent 
regn.

But, in Europe, we had the luck to avoid this so far.
You can imagin how many european developers and users may feel by now.

But it's not over. There is still some luck to avoid this. The vote 
hasn't be done yet.



Like people of this list, Linux users are perfectionnists. We like to 
use the best software. And it's even best when opensource and when you 
make a living out of it.

That's what i like in IT : it's a passion and you make a living out of it.
But my whole employment sector could fall down.

Sorry, i just feel sick.

G


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Re: Chkrootkit reports infection

[Brad Sawatzky]

On Thu, 30 Jun 2005, Robert S wrote:

> > Newer versions of chkrootkit (0.45, for example) allow you to run in a
> > "diff mode" that suppresses day-to-day duplicate hits.  You can turn
> > this option on with 'dpkg-reconfigure chkrootkit'.
> >
> The Sarge version is  0.44-2.  The "diff" mode sounds good.  Is a newer
> version available in any of the Archives?  I can't find it in backports
> or volatile.  I'd sooner stick with .deb packages than use locally
> installed "hacks".  Presumably chkrootkit should be reasonably up to date
> for security reasons. 

You should be able to just snag the testing/unstable deb from
  

 
and install it with dpkg (among other options).  It looks like the
dependencies for 0.45 are already satisfied in a stock sarge install.

-- Brad


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supported hardware

[Ð∂äđ vÎяũŞ]

dear people of the debian lists, i have come to ask a question about
supported wireless cards, what my question is, what are the supported
wireless cards? and also which versions are supported, 802.11b or
802.11g or both?

Re: video playback: horrible!

[Jeff Elkins]

On Tuesday 28 June 2005 06:41 am, Kent West wrote:
> Jeff Elkins wrote:
> >I recently reformatted/reinstalled sid via the new sarge installer.
> >
> >Now video playback via xine/mplayer sucks, where previously it was great.
> > What settings do I need to tweak?
>
> In what way does it suck? If it's jumpy, my first guess would be dma
> settings. Check "hdparm".
>
> --
> Kent

Yeah, I've installed and checked hdparm, plus per Lee's suggestion, I've made 
sure that my Radeon drivers are loaded.

It's a hair-puller. I wiped my drive, installing Kbuntu, then after a bit, 
went back to sid via the new sarge install. Now, I'm screwed :)

Jeff


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Re: sarge and software patents

[Steve Block]

On Wed, Jun 29, 2005 at 08:05:22PM +0200, Guillaume TESSIER wrote:

Steve Block wrote:


On Wed, Jun 29, 2005 at 07:05:33PM +0200, Guillaume TESSIER wrote:


Guillaume TESSIER wrote:

The release of sarge stable just comes up some weeks before European 
Union could vote for extented patentability of software.


I guess a lot of packages from sarge are made from gnu projects that 
could be really endanger.


If some projects are attacked by lawyers and have to close down, 
what happen to the current packages made from these apps?


Does sarge just got released to let people have the last chance to 
get a decent debian distribution?


This sucks

G



The succes of this post is amazing!

This was posted 20 hours ago. And no one replied to it.

Consternation.

"What is this dude doing? politics in a debian mailing list?"
If i had posted something like "kernel panic while rebooting", "VLC 
can't read avi", "xine doesn't work", "samba : how to mount windows 
network share?", "how to mount ntfs ?". I would have had lot's of 
replies..


But patents aren't really about software? Uh?

I guess there is some european debian users here : you're concerned 
more than ever. Your favorite system, your favorite apps, your skills 
and future jobs are in danger.


Why spend time getting more skills on a system which might die?

G



Why be a fear-monger? We have software patents in the US but debian
hums happily along.

Also insulting the list that you want discussion from won't win you many
friends.


It could "hums" much less in Europe with software patents.
This would be a huge defeat.

G


Please keep replies on the list.

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Re: Looking for software Debian Sarge

[Roberto C. Sanchez]

On Wed, Jun 29, 2005 at 03:35:05PM -0500, Sergio Cuéllar Valdés wrote:
> Well, I use http://www.zoneminder.com/, it's free and a very good
> software. It can record as a movie (mpg, etc) or as images (jpg). It
> also has some motion detect alarm. There is no debian package for this
> sw, but you can download the .tar.gz.
> 

If you use it, you should file and RFP or package it yourself (it is
easy) and look for a sponsor.  Seems like a good program, but I would
have no use for it (and thus am not interested in packaging it).

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Side effect of samba?

[jb701]

I've installed samba, samba-doc and tethereal, and now my dial-up connection 
does not work.  pon connects me to my ISP, and I can ping the ISP server as 
well as my address, but I get nothing from pinging anything else, include 
the name servers.  Needless to say I cannot use apt-get now either - it 
cannot find the debian servers. 

All I have done is install the three packages listed above [which I 
downloaded over the web on my Debian PC]. 

Is this what you'd expect?  Have I inadvertently set some security option or 
has installation of samba rerouted where my PC looks? 

Regards 


- Joe


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Re: Chkrootkit reports infection

[Robert S]

> Newer versions of chkrootkit (0.45, for example) allow you to run in a
> "diff mode" that suppresses day-to-day duplicate hits.  You can turn this
> option on with 'dpkg-reconfigure chkrootkit'.
>
The Sarge version is  0.44-2.  The "diff" mode sounds good.  Is a newer 
version available in any of the Archives?  I can't find it in backports or 
volatile.  I'd sooner stick with .deb packages than use locally installed 
"hacks".  Presumably chkrootkit should be reasonably up to date for security 
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Re: torrents

[Vegard|drageV]

On 6/29/05, Ugo Bellavance <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Jessica Kong wrote:
> > Hello. I found your e-mail on a website, and I hope you could help me. I
> > downloaded the torrent file and have it saved. But when I tried to open
> > it, it either say it could not open and I should try to install it again
> > or that Windows Media player does not support the file or the codec.
> > This happened so many times, even when I tried to download the torrent
> > again. Can you please help me fix it?
> >
> > Thank-you so much,
> > Jess
> 
> The way bittorrent works is that you must call the torrent file with a
> client.  Do a google search on bittorrent and azereus, it should help you.
> 
The problems are not in your .torrent file. 

There is another client available through apt-get: bittornado. It is
less work installing and you are more likely to avoid software
conflicts.

Two ways of starting a torrent download. 
1. Start the torrent client (bittorrent, bittornado, azureus, etc.)
and open the file from there.
2. Use konqueror, or another filebrowser with  fileascociasions (sorry
my bad spelling) pointing to the bittorrent-client for .torrent files
, it willl do doubleclicking the file there.

Good luck, Vegard

Re: display resolution

[Csanyi Pal]

On Wed, Jun 29, 2005 at 01:50:06PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >From another OS I know that a system here will display 
> at 1024 x 768 x 16.  "startx" alone appears to produce
> a 
> resolution of 640 x 480.  The man page tells me how to 
> specify the color depth.  Can the 1024 x 768 resolution 
> also be specified?  How?

Use the videogen to generate Modelines for XFree86 servers.
Put the approppriate line in your XF86Config-4 file, in the 
Section "Monitor" .

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Re: apt stuck on apache in sarge

[Bill Marcum]

On Tue, Jun 28, 2005 at 10:47:48AM +0200, Alex Polite wrote:
> Apt is stuck on apache. It will neither  install nor remove.
> 
> >apt-get -f install
> Reading Package Lists... Done
> Building Dependency Tree... Done
> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 88 not upgraded.
> 1 not fully installed or removed.
> Need to get 0B of archives.
> After unpacking 0B of additional disk space will be used.
> Setting up apache (1.3.33-6) ...
> dpkg: error processing apache (--configure):
>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
> Errors were encountered while processing:
>  apache
> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
> 
> 
> How do I solve this?
> 
Look at /var/lib/dpkg/info/apache.postinst.  Figure out why the script
fails, or add an "exit 0" line at the beginning.  File a bug report
either way.


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Re: Procedure for upgrading kernel from 2.4 to 2.6

[Tony Terlecki]

Thanks John,

What is the purpose of the --initrd option? I know it creates a ramdisk
but what is put in there and why should it be needed? I thought the
kernel would have the necessary drivers compiled in to access everything
needed to continue. I noticed this ramdisk in the stock 2.4.27 kernel
but still don't know its purpose.

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On Wed, Jun 29, 2005 at 02:10:53PM -0500, John Miller wrote:
> It pretty much is that simple, though if you're compiling from source,
> you do have to configure the kernel before running make-kpkg.  Here's
> the steps I usually take:
> 
> 1) Install kernel-source package of my choosing.  This puts a tarball of
> the source tree in /usr/src.
> 2) Untar source tree with tar xfvj 
> 3) cd to newly-created kernel-source-2.6.x directory and configure
> kernel with 'make menuconfig'.  You can also use 'make config' or 'make
> xconfig' if you prefer, though 'make config' takes forever.
> 4) Do 'make-kpkg kernel-image' or 'make-kpkg --initrd kernel-image,' as
> I usually need an initial RAM disk on startup.
> 5) cd back to /usr/src and install the newly created .deb package (which
> will update grub/lilo and create appropriate files in /boot).
> 
> So yes, it really is that simple!  And you'll still have your 2.4.27
> kernel around if you accidentally mess something up.  If you're looking
> for an even easier way to a 2.6 kernel, Debian already has precompiled
> 'kernel-image' packages.  Just install and go.
> 
> John Miller
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Tony Terlecki wrote:
> 
> >I've recently installed a new machine using the 'testing' branch and it
> >came with a stock 2.4.27 kernel. I'd like to move to a custom 2.6 kernel
> >but I'm not not sure of the procedure.
> >
> >Is it as simple as installing kernel-package, a 2.6 kernel source
> >package, running make-kpkg against it then installing the .deb?
> >Or am I living in a dream world?!
> >
> >  
> >
> 
> 
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display resolution

[petereasthope]

>From another OS I know that a system here will display 
at 1024 x 768 x 16.  "startx" alone appears to produce
a 
resolution of 640 x 480.  The man page tells me how to 
specify the color depth.  Can the 1024 x 768 resolution 
also be specified?  How?

Thanks, Peter Easthope  shark at gulfnet dot sd64.bc.ca

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Re: cupsd - Allow from LAN not working

[Clive Menzies]

On (29/06/05 20:52), Michael Ott wrote:
> Hello Clive!
> 
> > I have two servers running cupsd (sarge) and can administer their
> > printers, locally, as member of the group lpadmin.
> > I've edited the cupsd.conf file as follows:
> > 
> > ## Restrict access to local domain
> > Order Deny,Allow
> > Deny From All
> > Allow From 127.0.0.1
> > Allow From 192.168.1.*
> In my config all allowed address are in one line. Maybe this can be the
> error.
> 
## Restrict access to local domain
Order Deny,Allow
Deny From All
Allow From 127.0.0.1 192.168.1.*


Thanks but unless the syntax is wrong, this doesn't seem to be the
problem.

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Re: cupsd - Allow from LAN not working

[Clive Menzies]

On (29/06/05 11:49), John Miller wrote:
> Clive Menzies writes: 
> 
> >Hi 
> >
> >I have two servers running cupsd (sarge) and can administer their
> >printers, locally, as member of the group lpadmin. 
> >
> >For convenience I want to be able to administer both printers from
> >anywhere on the network.  Historically, I've used ssh/lynx but for
> >users, I would like to allow them access via http://server:631 
> >
> >I've edited the cupsd.conf file as follows: 
> >
> >## Restrict access to local domain
> >Order Deny,Allow
> >Deny From All
> >Allow From 127.0.0.1
> >Allow From 192.168.1.* 
> >
> >as per man cupsd.conf but I get:
> >Forbidden
> >You don't have permission to access the resource on this server. 
> >
> >I've also tried 192.168.1.0 192.168.1.0/24 without success; I have
> >restarted cupsys after each edit. 
> >
> >Has anyone got this working or should I report a bug?  of course I
> >may have missed something blindingly obvious ;) 
> >
> This'll probably tend towards the obvious side, but make sure that you've 
> got your LAN's IP range listed in both the
>  and 
> sections.  Can the workstations submit print jobs and just not access the 
> admin stuff, or are they totally CUPS-disabled? 

Yes, they can print fine so it's purely admin access that is the problem

Someone suggested off-list, adding a line to the inetd.conf file for
cupsd but it doesn't seem to help.

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Re: Looking for software Debian Sarge

[Simon Rees]

On Wednesday 29 June 2005 20:34, Bill Day wrote:
> I am look for some motion sensitive software for my webcam.   I simply
> want to take pictures of our driveway as we have had a lot of unwanted
> visitors. Night vision is not built into this camera so it really wont

I've used camsource and motion which have features sure as recording movies, 
motion detection and calling external commands. Motion is probably the more 
sophisticated. Both work with video4linux. I compiled both from source for 
a suse installation so don't know if there are debian packages but I don't 
recall compiling being tricky if there aren't...

cheers Simon

motion:
http://motion.sourceforge.net/

camsource:
http://camsource.sourceforge.net/

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Perl upgrade risks

[Antonio Lobato]

Hello!


	I have a Debian Woody server running a lot of services such as 
cyrus/postfix, apache, mysql-server, jabberd2, and more... Such as a 
good woody system, my Perl is 5.6.1, and there are tons of scripts 
that I made and even normal system scripts that uses this perl 
version. Now I'll install a software (bandersnatch, for jabberd2 chat 
logging) that needs Perl 5.8.0 a least.


	Well, I can pinning the system to woody/oldstable and upgrade only 
Perl to 5.8.7 (stable), but my question is: Will such Perl upgrade 
(from 5.6.1 to 5.8.7) break some old script?


	This is a production server and I have to be sure that I can do it. I 
already googled, searched deb-mail-lists but Im not yet sure aboute it.







Thank you
Tom


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Re: Merging workstation and server systems

[Kevin Mark]

On Mon, Jun 27, 2005 at 11:16:04PM +0200, VSJ wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > Why not just run sarge for everything?
> > So then why the need to run etch packages 
> > for logged in users?
> 
> No one knows how long it will take before etch becomes stable. I don't want
> to run old software for workstation desktop users (sarge will be ancient in
> three years...).
> But I also don't want to run testing or unstable for server tasks.
> I also don't want to enter the backporting hell, that's why I want to run
> separate sarge and etch* simultaneously, with etch possibly in a chroot.
> 
> 
> 
> *Or possibly Ubuntu or another Debian desktop distro
Hi VSJ,
I have another suggestion:
divide the 'server' tasks between the 2 old server and use the new fast
one for the workstations. The new faster machine will be great for the
desktop user and the 2 old servers should be able to handle www, samba,
firewall, etc between them.
internet>proxy/firewall/email/===>workstation
 ||
 \/
   www/nfs/blog
why waste good 'tested' hardware. Linux can put it do good use!
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Re: Looking for software Debian Sarge

[Sergio Cuéllar Valdés]

Well, I use http://www.zoneminder.com/, it's free and a very good
software. It can record as a movie (mpg, etc) or as images (jpg). It
also has some motion detect alarm. There is no debian package for this
sw, but you can download the .tar.gz.

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Re: torrents

[Ugo Bellavance]

Jessica Kong wrote:
> Hello. I found your e-mail on a website, and I hope you could help me. I
> downloaded the torrent file and have it saved. But when I tried to open
> it, it either say it could not open and I should try to install it again
> or that Windows Media player does not support the file or the codec.
> This happened so many times, even when I tried to download the torrent
> again. Can you please help me fix it?
> 
> Thank-you so much,
> Jess

The way bittorrent works is that you must call the torrent file with a
client.  Do a google search on bittorrent and azereus, it should help you.


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Looking for software Debian Sarge

[Bill Day]

I am look for some motion sensitive software for my webcam.   I simply want to 
take pictures of our driveway as we have had a lot of unwanted visitors.   
Night vision is not built into this camera so it really wont matter if the 
program supports it or not.  I also have an extremely bright yard light that 
should allow it to take pictures wonderfully.

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Re: devmapper mount names

[Joel Johnson]

>> A basic question that I can't seem to find an answer to (maybe not so
>> basic?).
>>
>> Using LVM and therefore devmapper, the volume names are such that >they
>> are accessible under /dev/mapper/-. Likewise, these
>> names are used in reporting (du, df, mount, etc...). I would prefer >to
>> have the volumes reported directly as their dev names, so
>> /dev/mapper/volgroup-root should be /dev/volgroup/root. The volumes 
>are
>> accessible this way, and if I use those entries in fstab it works 
>fine,

>> but still get reported under the /dev/mapper/* headers.
>>
>> My best guess is that it has something to do with the order of the
>> lookup of devices, but I don't have any idea how to modify that. Is 
>this

>> possible? Is there a reason not to want such a presentation?

>If I understand you correctly, here is how I do it in my /etc/fstab
>
># /etc/fstab: static file system information.
>#
>#
>proc/proc   procdefaults0   0
>/dev/hda2   /   ext3defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 
 >1

>/dev/lv_home_group/lv_home /home  reiserfs defaults   2  2
>/dev/hda1   /boot   ext3defaults0   2
>/dev/local/lv_usr /usr  reiserfs defaults   2  2
>#/dev/hda3   /Knoppixext3defaults0   2
>/dev/local/lv_local /usr/local  reiserfs defaults   2  2
>/dev/backups/lv_backup /backups reiserfs defaults2  2
>/dev/spare/pgm3 /pgm3   reiserfs defaults   2  2
>/dev/spare/album /album   reiserfs defaults   2  2
>/dev/hda5   /varext3defaults0   2
>/dev/hdb9   /extra  ext3defaults 0  0
>#/dev/hdb10  /knoppixext3defaults 0  0
>/dev/hda7   noneswapsw  0   0
>/dev/hdb3   noneswapsw  0   0
>/dev/hdd/media/cdrom0   iso9660 ro,user,noauto  0   0
>/dev/hdc/media/dvd  iso9660 rw,user,noauto  0   0
>/dev/fd0/media/floppy0  autorw,user,noauto  0   0
>#/dev/hdc/mnt/UDFDVD autoro,user,noatime 0   0
>/dev/pktcdvd/cdrom /mnt/UDF  udf noauto,noatime,user,rw 0   >0
>/dev/pktcdvd/dvd /mnt/UDF  udf noauto,noatime,user,rw 0   0

That mounts the drives just fine, I use the shorter names in my fstab 
currently. However, when using (as an example) 'df' to view filesystems, 
the name is listed as the full /dev/mapper/* device.


I would like to use shorter entries in fstab - this works already. What 
I would also like to be able to have happen, is df and the like display 
the shorter name /dev/{volgroup}/{volname}.


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Re: wajig broken in unstable?

[Graham Williams]

Received Wed 29 Jun 2005  7:39pm +1000 from Anthony Campbell:
> I found that wajig disappeared here after an update to unstable a couple
> of days ago and attempts to reintall it are greeted with the message
> that it has unmet dependencies and I should file a bug report. However,
> bug reporting seems to be failing on Debian at present.
> 
> Not sure what is happening here.
> 
> AC

I believe some of the apt induced issues have been resolved - at least
it is no longer attempting to remove wajig. Should be able to
reinstall.

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torrents

[Jessica Kong]

Hello. I found your e-mail on a website, and I hope you could help me. I 
downloaded the torrent file and have it saved. But when I tried to open it, 
it either say it could not open and I should try to install it again or that 
Windows Media player does not support the file or the codec. This happened 
so many times, even when I tried to download the torrent again. Can you 
please help me fix it?


Thank-you so much,
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Re: routing

[jeffd]

Khanh Cao Van wrote:


cvkhanh:~# route -n
Kernel IP routing table
Destination---Gateway---Genmask--Flags--Metric---RefUse--Iface
10.0.0.0---0.0.0.0255.255.255.0-U0-0---0-eth0
192.168.60.0-192.168.60.2--255.255.255.0---UG--0-0---0-eth1
192.168.60.0-0.0.0.0---255.255.255.0-U---0-0---0-eth1
default-10.0.0.2---0.0.0.0--UG---0-0---0-eth0



try removing this route
192.168.60.0-0.0.0.0



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Avidemux won't open 2,8GB movie

[Vegard|drageV]

Avidemux works fine with smaller movies (typically 700MB), but gives
an errormessage in the commandwindow:


Images stat:___Max memory consumed (MB) : 0
Current memory consumed (MB) : 0
Max image used   : 0
Cur image used   : 0
#0  0x407330f4 in g_on_error_stack_trace () from /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0
#1  0x0809e9c7 in sig_segfault_handler ()
#2  0x40e06825 in __pthread_sighandler () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#3  
#4  0x0836003e in _3GPHeader::buildIndex ()
#5  0x000e in ?? ()
#6  0x000e in ?? ()
#7  0x000e in ?? ()
#8  0x000e in ?? ()
#9  0x000e in ?? ()
#10 0x000e in ?? ()
#11 0x000e in ?? ()
#12 0x41699020 in ?? ()
#13 0x0001057a in ?? ()
#14 0x413c3020 in ?? ()
#15 0x0001 in ?? ()
#16 0x09888de0 in ?? ()
#17 0x09888dc0 in ?? ()
#18 0x41405020 in ?? ()
#19 0xb1a0 in ?? ()
#20 0x in ?? ()
#21 0xb26f in ?? ()
#22 0xb270 in ?? ()
#23 0x in ?? ()
#24 0xb1b8 in ?? ()
#25 0x08360f46 in adm_atom::read32 ()


Is there a way to solve this problem? I googled around, but found little help. 

Debian sarge, kernel 2.4.27-2-686

Cheers, Vegard.

Re: No security updates for sarge ?

[Hannes Mayer]

On 6/29/05, Philip Ross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[...]
> There's been some discussion about this subject on the Debian Security
> mailing list:
> 
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-security/2005/06/threads.html#00142

Duhh.. the sec list... thanks for the reminder and the link Phil!

Best regards,
Hannes.

Re: webmin will not update

[Roberto C. Sanchez]

Quoting "Jaldhar H. Vyas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


On Wed, 29 Jun 2005, Maurice O'Regan wrote:



someone siggested using a newew version from 'unstable'.


I'm the Debian maintainer of webmin btw.


How do I do  that ?



Actually, I should have asked first.  Is there any particular reason 
you "need" the very latest version?  1.180 is perfectly adequate you 
know.




I have to disagree.  I recently upgraded a server at school from Woody 
to Sarge

and installed webmin.  I have had a number of problems.  Specifically:

* the update/dist-upgrade cycle fails and must be corrected from the command
line
* there are a number of pages that "hang" and then give a not found error, but
when you back up, everything is as it should be (specifically, adding a new
user and adding a shorewall rule).

This weeked I will look into it and file detailed bug reports that 
include step

by step how to reproduce.  Don't get me wrong, webmin is an excellent package,
but it still has some issues.

Search the archives of this list for pointers on "Apt pinning" if you 
absolutely must mix and match stable and unstable packages.  But if 
you are a newbie as it appears you are, you should think long and 
hard before doing something that could compromise the stability of 
your system.


I totally agree with this.  This "grab the unstable version" advice I 
frequently
see is not very wise.  A site like backports.org is the best thing a 
newbie can

do in terms of getting updated software for a server.  Even then, it requires
some diligence on the part of the admin.

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Re: Procedure for upgrading kernel from 2.4 to 2.6

[John Miller]

It pretty much is that simple, though if you're compiling from source,
you do have to configure the kernel before running make-kpkg.  Here's
the steps I usually take:

1) Install kernel-source package of my choosing.  This puts a tarball of
the source tree in /usr/src.
2) Untar source tree with tar xfvj 
3) cd to newly-created kernel-source-2.6.x directory and configure
kernel with 'make menuconfig'.  You can also use 'make config' or 'make
xconfig' if you prefer, though 'make config' takes forever.
4) Do 'make-kpkg kernel-image' or 'make-kpkg --initrd kernel-image,' as
I usually need an initial RAM disk on startup.
5) cd back to /usr/src and install the newly created .deb package (which
will update grub/lilo and create appropriate files in /boot).

So yes, it really is that simple!  And you'll still have your 2.4.27
kernel around if you accidentally mess something up.  If you're looking
for an even easier way to a 2.6 kernel, Debian already has precompiled
'kernel-image' packages.  Just install and go.

John Miller
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Tony Terlecki wrote:

>I've recently installed a new machine using the 'testing' branch and it
>came with a stock 2.4.27 kernel. I'd like to move to a custom 2.6 kernel
>but I'm not not sure of the procedure.
>
>Is it as simple as installing kernel-package, a 2.6 kernel source
>package, running make-kpkg against it then installing the .deb?
>Or am I living in a dream world?!
>
>  
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Re: startx , the command not found

[John Miller]

Try installing x-window-system, xserver-xfree86, and xserver-common, if
they're not already installed.  I'm surprised, though, that apt-getting
GNOME didn't bring X along for the ride.  Good luck!

John

Khanh Cao Van wrote:

>ya , I'm just come back to my debian , go to / and tried find | grep
>startx but not found any thing . I came to /usr/bin and looking for
>startx but it not there . Thank for your opinion :) . Any sugest ?
>
>
>On 6/30/05, Stephen R Laniel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  
>
>>On Thu, Jun 30, 2005 at 12:57:12AM +0700, Khanh Cao Van wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I've install debian 3.1 and then use apt to install gnome and
>>>xserverfreex86 . Everything seem to be ok since the system guide me to
>>>config manything such as graphic card , resolusion etc . But when I
>>>type startx , nothing happend except the error the command not found .
>>>  
>>>
>>If I had to guess offhand, I'd bet that startx isn't in your
>>PATH. Which would be odd, given that startx is in /usr/bin.
>>So try this:
>>
>>ls -la /usr/bin/startx
>>
>>at the command line and see what you get.
>>
>>If nothing is listed there, then ... um ... that's a
>>problem. We'll cross that bridge etc.
>>
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Re: help scp or rsync

[Ugo Bellavance]

Stephen R Laniel wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 29, 2005 at 07:12:46PM +0200, roberto wrote:
> 
>>and i installed an rpm from the following site
>>http://rpm.pbone.net/index.php3/stat/4/idpl/1944456/com/rsync-2.6.5-2.i386.rpm.html
>> (OK)
>>
>>in machine B, where i tried the above command
> 
> 
> It looks like rsync is trying to use a symbol that's defined
> in a library that you don't have installed. Presumably you
> installed rsync on machine B, but didn't install one of the
> packages that rsync depends on. This is called 'dependency
> hell.'
> 
> I'm more familiar with Debian than with Red Hat, but I did
> have some experience with Mandrake. The Mandrake 'urpmi'
> command normally resolves dependency problems. It may also
> be available under Red Hat proper; I'm not sure.
> 

I'm pretty sure rsync is available in most Redhat versions, what version
are you using?  It is available in RHEL3.


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Re: sarge and software patents

[Joe]

Guillaume TESSIER wrote:
The release of sarge stable just comes up some weeks before European 
Union could vote for extented patentability of software.


I guess a lot of packages from sarge are made from gnu projects that 
could be really endanger.


If some projects are attacked by lawyers and have to close down, what 
happen to the current packages made from these apps?


Does sarge just got released to let people have the last chance to get a 
decent debian distribution?



Have a look at http://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/

Sarge was released at the point the green graph was projected to reach
zero. It's gone up again because testing isn't Sarge any more.



This sucks



Yes, but democracy being what it is, it will happen. How many of your
non-IT friends are concerned about software patents?


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Re: webmin will not update

[Jaldhar H. Vyas]

On Wed, 29 Jun 2005, Maurice O'Regan wrote:



someone siggested using a newew version from 'unstable'.


I'm the Debian maintainer of webmin btw.


How do I do  that ?



Actually, I should have asked first.  Is there any particular reason you 
"need" the very latest version?  1.180 is perfectly adequate you know.


Search the archives of this list for pointers on "Apt pinning" if you 
absolutely must mix and match stable and unstable packages.  But if you 
are a newbie as it appears you are, you should think long and hard before 
doing something that could compromise the stability of your system.


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Re: Movie players [SOLVED]

[Jim Hall]

Martin McCormick wrote:

Piero Piutti writes:

All you need is mplayer, the w32codecs and mozilla-mplayer (aka 
mplayerplug-in). It will work as a charm: tested with the Quicktime trailers 
on Apple's website.



I second that.  I installed  MPlayer-1.0pre7 and the codecs
directory that one should also install and am amazed how well it
works.  






Progress report. Thank you all for the suggestions and info. After some 
research and reading I installed vlc. The reasons are as follows.


(1) The Computer Lab Committee has mandated that nothing be 
installed from any source other than the Debian repositories unless it 
is a critical need and can only be obtained from "outside".



(2) mplayer is not available in the Debian repository.

(3) Totem is installed and, as far as I can tell, it's a GUI for xine.

(4) VLC appears to be another one of those projects working toward 
being an "every Linux distro" standard, like ALSA. I thought it was 
worthwhile to work with it as well as xine. After all, Linux is about 
choice.



Jim


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Re: mailscanner got problem ....

[Ugo Bellavance]

Cheng-Han Tsai wrote:
> Dear all,
> 
> Recently I installed MailScanner + Spamassassin for postfix. MailScanner
> works very well for several hours after it startup. However, when time
> goes by, MailScanner will just idle, even there are many messages
> waiting in the postfix hold queue. The execution result of
> "check_mailscanner" told me that it is fine, but actually it just stop
> working !!! There is nothing in the log. Does anybody know what happen
> ?? Thanks.

If you restart MailScanner, does it do anything?  Maybe you should ask
the MailScanner mailing list...

> 
> Cheng-Han
> 
> 


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webmin will not update

[Maurice O'Regan]

Anyone familiar with Webmin issues under debian 3.1
I cannot get a fresh install of sarge + webmin to upgrade using webmins
own upgrade option.

any ideas ?

someone siggested using a newew version from 'unstable'. How do I do  that ?


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Re: mdadm: raid not working after stop/reboot

[peter colton]

On Tuesday 28 June 2005 08:52, Kristian Rink wrote:
> Hi all;
>
> while migrating our mail machine, I am currently learning how to work
> with the new raidtools package based upon mdadm instead of mkraid, and
> currently I'm feeling a little helpless about this. Situations:
>
> * I created a RAID-5 array using mdadm --create, which, so far, worked
> well. * I'm able to create a filesystem on the newly-built RAID array -
> fine, as well.
>
> Anyhow, the very moment I am about to reboot or even just to stop the
> array using mdadm -S, I'm not at all able to get it running again. I
> spent most of this early morning playing around with various versions of
> /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf, deleted and recreated the RAID several times, but
> am not really moving ahead. Can anyone enlighten me what might be wrong?
>
> Configuration:
> * aic7xxx - compliant SCSI controller
> * 4x SCSI hard drive
> * RAID array just for /home not /
> * /etc/init.d/mdadm-raid is started and running
>
> TIA and bye,
> Kris
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hello Kris,

   Have a look at the link for a debian software raid built from the sarge 
installer. Hope it can be of help. If you using a initrd kerenl if so have a 
look at /usr/share/doc/mdadm/rootraiddoc.97.html
Part II. RAID using initrd and grub

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Re: startx , the command not found

[Thomas Weinbrenner]

Khanh Cao Van <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb:
> I've install debian 3.1 and then use apt to install gnome and
> xserverfreex86 . Everything seem to be ok since the system guide me to
> config manything such as graphic card , resolusion etc . But when I
> type startx , nothing happend except the error the command not found .

You will find startx in the xbase-clients package.

If you want to use X, it is a good idea to install the
x-window-system-core package:

,[ x-window-system-core ]-
|  This metapackage provides the essential components for a standalone
|  workstation running the X Window System.  It provides the X libraries,
|  an X server (except on the S/390 architecture), a set of fonts, and a
|  group of basic X clients and utilities.
|  .
|  Higher level metapackages, such as those for desktop environments, can
|  depend on this package and simplify their dependencies.
|  .
|  It should be noted that a package providing x-window-manager and a
|  package providing x-terminal-emulator should also be installed to ensure
|  a comfortable X experience.
`

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routing

[Khanh Cao Van]

Sorry for this mail , but I think you could not see what I intend to
descipt as the previous mail . Please give me some help

I have 2 PC :  A and B  ,

The A has 2 ethernet card call eth0 ( IP 10.0.0.4/24 )  and eth1 (
192.168.60.2/24 ) . I have enable fowarding between those 2 ethernet :


cvkhanh:/etc/network# cat options
ip_forward=yes


The B has one ethernet card eth0 ( 192.168.60.4/24 ) and the default
gateway is 192.168.60.2 ( the eth1 of A ) .

In A I set route table as :

cvkhanh:~# route -n
Kernel IP routing table
Destination---Gateway---Genmask--Flags--Metric---RefUse--Iface
10.0.0.0---0.0.0.0255.255.255.0-U0-0---0-eth0
192.168.60.0-192.168.60.2--255.255.255.0---UG--0-0---0-eth1
192.168.60.0-0.0.0.0---255.255.255.0-U---0-0---0-eth1
default-10.0.0.2---0.0.0.0--UG---0-0---0-eth0


But when I tried with A :
ping -I eth0 192.168.60.4 , B not answer .

Tried with B :
ping 10.0.0.4 , it reply immediatly .

I could not find out why ping -I eth0 192.168.60.4 , B not reply ,
please , help me

Re: Debian Base Install to many un-necessary packages?

[Björn Lindström]

Steve Block <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Why not let it finish rather than trying to interrupt the process, and
> then purge the packages you don't want? Seems a lot less prone to
> breakage. The base system installed PPP for me (makes sense to have it
> in the base), but I purged it and now it is gone.

To do this even cleaner, install and run debfoster.


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Re: cupsd - Allow from LAN not working

[Michael Ott]

Hello Clive!

> I have two servers running cupsd (sarge) and can administer their
> printers, locally, as member of the group lpadmin.
> I've edited the cupsd.conf file as follows:
> 
> ## Restrict access to local domain
> Order Deny,Allow
> Deny From All
> Allow From 127.0.0.1
> Allow From 192.168.1.*
In my config all allowed address are in one line. Maybe this can be the
error.

CU
 
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Re: cupsd - Allow from LAN not working

[John Miller]

This'll probably tend towards the obvious side, but make sure that you've 
got your LAN's IP range listed in both the

 and 
sections.  Can the workstations submit print jobs and just not access the 
admin stuff, or are they totally CUPS-disabled? 

John 

Clive Menzies writes: 

Hi 


I have two servers running cupsd (sarge) and can administer their
printers, locally, as member of the group lpadmin. 


For convenience I want to be able to administer both printers from
anywhere on the network.  Historically, I've used ssh/lynx but for
users, I would like to allow them access via http://server:631 

I've edited the cupsd.conf file as follows: 


## Restrict access to local domain
Order Deny,Allow
Deny From All
Allow From 127.0.0.1
Allow From 192.168.1.* 


as per man cupsd.conf but I get:
Forbidden
You don't have permission to access the resource on this server. 


I've also tried 192.168.1.0 192.168.1.0/24 without success; I have
restarted cupsys after each edit. 


Has anyone got this working or should I report a bug?  of course I
may have missed something blindingly obvious ;) 

Regards 

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Re: Getting rid of "holds" on packages

[Maurits van Rees]

On Sun, Jun 26, 2005 at 12:56:06PM +0200, Lech Karol Paw?aszek wrote:
> echo $package $state | dpkg --set-selections
> 
> where $package is a package name
> and $state is a new state for a package (like 'hold', 'install', 'purge')

Then it is still handy to know which packages are on hold at the
moment.  I don't seem to have any of those now, so I can't test it
easily, but the following should give a list of packages that are not
in the install state:

dpkg --get-selections | grep -v install

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question about sarge and Sony Vaio PCG V505 EX

[Marcelo Chiapparini]

Hi all,

I want to install sarge in a Sony Vaio PCG V505 EX laptop. I didn't find 
anything about it in the list. Besides, in the site 
http://www.linux-laptop.net/ there is only information about woody and gentoo 
on a Vaio PCG V505 BX...  Does anybody in this list have any experience with 
sarge and PCG V505 EX?


Thanks in advance for any help!

Regards

Marcelo


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Re: sarge and software patents

[Marty]

Guillaume TESSIER wrote:


But patents aren't really about software? Uh?

I guess there is some european debian users here : you're concerned more 
than ever. Your favorite system, your favorite apps, your skills and 
future jobs are in danger.


Why spend time getting more skills on a system which might die?


For one thing, it's not a patent issue, per se at its core, which I
will try to explain below.  For another thing before you can propose
and agree on the best collective response, you have to sort out the
issues connected to the problem and these are very complex, which I
also will try to explain in following paragraphs.  Otherwise you may
end up with some common-denominator response that is sub-optimal or
useless (e.g. an email writing campaign), or worse, fails entirely
to address the root problem.

IMNSHO there will always be some countries that outlaw some kinds of
free software, but it's unlikely that all countries will outlaw any
kinds of free software.  Therefore the obvious answer I think, is to
set up servers in locations that are free of such laws.  And even in
the unlikely event that all countries outlaw some kinds of software
(e.g. via treaties) there have been proposals for dealing with that
as well.  I have read articles about locating certain types of
services on the high seas although I don't know if any of those exist
now.

If my opinion is shared by the majority then it could make sense to
deal with problems like European patent law not primarily by lobbying
or hiring lawyers but by seeking alternative services that provide
some immunity to such problems.  This of course will not solve the
problem of local censorship but at least isolates it to the respective
local areas, which seems like the first priority, and one which may
give the Debian community far more direct control over its own future,
per Euro spent, than lobbying governments around the globe.

So my proposal in a nutshell is that maybe there is more "bank for
the [buck/Euro]" in helping the internet do a better job, compared
to persuading governments to be more free.  The former is a concrete
task, but the latter exists in the realm of hopes and dreams, like
the dream for world peace. Always a goal, but not always a concrete
agenda.

Perhaps a prior, pertinent and more pressing issue is how the Debian
policy handles the issues.  For example, we have the Marillat
repository which seems to be in a kind of limbo -- neither Debian
nor non-Debian.  I'm sure this is all for political and legal reasons,
and has nothing to do with "free software" except perhaps, insofar
as how "free software" is defined with respect to restrictions by
various local ordinances, which of course are the types of censorship
which the internet is designed to circumvent by design.

An example of one of many cans of worms this opens is the well-known
disagreement between the Debian developers (or at least, a large portion
of Debian developers) and the FSF on the definition of "free software,"
that came up in connection with the GFDL which seems to be rooted in
the definition of the word "software" itself.  This illustrates how
the worms in those opened cans include a complex mixture of legal,
political and philosphical issues.

(Furthermore, I don't know why the disagreement is cast in terms of Debian
developers instead of both Debian users *and* developers, as if users are
second class, but I assume that's probably yet another political can of
worms, this one connected to the Debian Constitution.)

I suspect all these issues must be addressed before it's possible to
converge upon an optimal solution.  I also hope that it's possible to
gloss over some of them (i.e. "agree to disagree") because I think some
of them are intractible.  That's another reason why I favor an approach
that favors "putting on our technical hats" and solving the problems as
technical and censorship issues rather than playing armchair politician
and trying to get everyone to agree on other aspects of the problem.


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Re: startx , the command not found

[Kent West]

Stephen R Laniel wrote:

> There's probably an easy way to add in all the packages that
>
>you need to get a GNOME or KDE desktop running. In fact, I'd
>bet that there's one single package you can install which
>depends on all the packages you need, hence installs
>everything properly. Can someone else on this list point the
>gentleman to the proper package(s)?
>
>  
>
You can run "tasksel" I believe and choose "Desktop Environment".

But what I'd do is "aptitude install x-window-system kde gnome".


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Re: sarge and software patents

[Tony Godshall]

...
> I guess there is some european debian users here : you're concerned more 
> than ever. Your favorite system, your favorite apps, your skills and 
> future jobs are in danger.
> 
> Why spend time getting more skills on a system which might die?
 
Debian and other free software will survive by routing
around threats.

What's your alternative?  Proprietary software?

"Becoming an expert in a proprietary technology is like
becoming a sharecropper in your own mind"  -- unknown

Hey, be my guest.  Lots of people have sold their souls to
Microsoft.


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Re: No security updates for sarge ?

[Philip Ross]

Hannes Mayer wrote:

I've been wondering the past few days why there are no updates via
"apt-get update/upgrade" (I have the correct entries in
sources.list!). A few days ago I was reading at heise.de
(http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/61076) that the security team
seems to have "disappeared". In a previous thread I was reading that
some updates are in the queue, but have not been released yet.
I've seen some debian core team members posting on this list, so maybe
someone can clarify what's happening.


There's been some discussion about this subject on the Debian Security 
mailing list:


http://lists.debian.org/debian-security/2005/06/threads.html#00142


Phil


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Re: startx , the command not found

[Stephen R Laniel]

On Thu, Jun 30, 2005 at 01:20:42AM +0700, Khanh Cao Van wrote:
> ya , I'm just come back to my debian , go to / and tried find | grep
> startx but not found any thing . I came to /usr/bin and looking for
> startx but it not there . Thank for your opinion :) . Any sugest ?

Mm ... find |grep startx is a highly inefficient way of
doing what you want to do. That lists every single file on
your hard disk and finds any matching startx. At the very
least, you'd want to just use 'locate startx'. But really
you should just do

ls /usr/bin/startx

That will be the fastest way to do what you want.

You probably don't have X installed. I'm not totally
comfortable with how all the X client and server packages
fit together, but you can use 'dlocate startx' to see that
the package xbase-clients contains 'startx'. So do

sudo apt-get install xbase-clients

There's probably an easy way to add in all the packages that
you need to get a GNOME or KDE desktop running. In fact, I'd
bet that there's one single package you can install which
depends on all the packages you need, hence installs
everything properly. Can someone else on this list point the
gentleman to the proper package(s)?

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Re: startx , the command not found

[Khanh Cao Van]

ya , I'm just come back to my debian , go to / and tried find | grep
startx but not found any thing . I came to /usr/bin and looking for
startx but it not there . Thank for your opinion :) . Any sugest ?


On 6/30/05, Stephen R Laniel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 30, 2005 at 12:57:12AM +0700, Khanh Cao Van wrote:
> > I've install debian 3.1 and then use apt to install gnome and
> > xserverfreex86 . Everything seem to be ok since the system guide me to
> > config manything such as graphic card , resolusion etc . But when I
> > type startx , nothing happend except the error the command not found .
> 
> If I had to guess offhand, I'd bet that startx isn't in your
> PATH. Which would be odd, given that startx is in /usr/bin.
> So try this:
> 
> ls -la /usr/bin/startx
> 
> at the command line and see what you get.
> 
> If nothing is listed there, then ... um ... that's a
> problem. We'll cross that bridge etc.
> 
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routing in debian

[Khanh Cao Van]

I have 2 PC A and B  ,

The A has 2 ethernet card call eth0 ( IP 10.0.0.4/24 )  and eth1 (
192.168.60.2/24 ) . I have enable fowarding between those 2 ethernet :
cvkhanh:/etc/network# cat options
ip_forward=yes

The B has one ethernet card eth0 ( 192.168.60.4/24 ) and the default
gateway is 192.168.60.2 ( the eth1 of A ) .

In A I set route table as :

Kernel IP routing table
Destination Gateway GenmaskFlags Metric
RefUse Iface
10.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U0 
00 eth0
192.168.60.0192.168.60.2255.255.255.0   UG  0  0  
 0 eth1
192.168.60.00.0.0.0  255.255.255.0  U0
 00 eth1
default  10.0.0.20.0.0.0   UG
0  00 eth0

But when I tried with A :
ping -I eth0 192.168.60.4 , B not answer .

Tried with B :
ping 10.0.0.4 , it reply immediatly .

I could not find out why ping -I eth0 192.168.60.4 , B not reply ,
please , help me





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Re: startx , the command not found

[Stephen R Laniel]

On Thu, Jun 30, 2005 at 12:57:12AM +0700, Khanh Cao Van wrote:
> I've install debian 3.1 and then use apt to install gnome and
> xserverfreex86 . Everything seem to be ok since the system guide me to
> config manything such as graphic card , resolusion etc . But when I
> type startx , nothing happend except the error the command not found .

If I had to guess offhand, I'd bet that startx isn't in your
PATH. Which would be odd, given that startx is in /usr/bin.
So try this:

ls -la /usr/bin/startx

at the command line and see what you get.

If nothing is listed there, then ... um ... that's a
problem. We'll cross that bridge etc.

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startx , the command not found

[Khanh Cao Van]

I've install debian 3.1 and then use apt to install gnome and
xserverfreex86 . Everything seem to be ok since the system guide me to
config manything such as graphic card , resolusion etc . But when I
type startx , nothing happend except the error the command not found .

How could I do ?
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Re: MythTV

[Matt Price]

just curious -- how much do you figure on spending for this project? 
I'm interested in MythTV too, but it seems quite expensive to build 
one's own box compared e.g. to buyint a tivo.  am I wrong about this?


thx ,

matt


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Re: sarge and software patents

[Steve Block]

On Wed, Jun 29, 2005 at 07:05:33PM +0200, Guillaume TESSIER wrote:

Guillaume TESSIER wrote:

The release of sarge stable just comes up some weeks before European 
Union could vote for extented patentability of software.


I guess a lot of packages from sarge are made from gnu projects that 
could be really endanger.


If some projects are attacked by lawyers and have to close down, what 
happen to the current packages made from these apps?


Does sarge just got released to let people have the last chance to get 
a decent debian distribution?


This sucks

G



The succes of this post is amazing!

This was posted 20 hours ago. And no one replied to it.

Consternation.

"What is this dude doing? politics in a debian mailing list?"
If i had posted something like "kernel panic while rebooting", "VLC 
can't read avi", "xine doesn't work", "samba : how to mount windows 
network share?", "how to mount ntfs ?". I would have had lot's of 
replies..


But patents aren't really about software? Uh?

I guess there is some european debian users here : you're concerned more 
than ever. Your favorite system, your favorite apps, your skills and 
future jobs are in danger.


Why spend time getting more skills on a system which might die?

G


Why be a fear-monger? We have software patents in the US but debian
hums happily along.

Also insulting the list that you want discussion from won't win you many
friends.

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mailscanner got problem ....

[Cheng-Han Tsai]

Dear all,

Recently I installed MailScanner + Spamassassin for postfix. MailScanner
works very well for several hours after it startup. However, when time
goes by, MailScanner will just idle, even there are many messages
waiting in the postfix hold queue. The execution result of
"check_mailscanner" told me that it is fine, but actually it just stop
working !!! There is nothing in the log. Does anybody know what happen
?? Thanks.

Cheng-Han


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Re: help scp or rsync

[Stephen R Laniel]

On Wed, Jun 29, 2005 at 07:12:46PM +0200, roberto wrote:
> and i installed an rpm from the following site
> http://rpm.pbone.net/index.php3/stat/4/idpl/1944456/com/rsync-2.6.5-2.i386.rpm.html
>  (OK)
> 
> in machine B, where i tried the above command

It looks like rsync is trying to use a symbol that's defined
in a library that you don't have installed. Presumably you
installed rsync on machine B, but didn't install one of the
packages that rsync depends on. This is called 'dependency
hell.'

I'm more familiar with Debian than with Red Hat, but I did
have some experience with Mandrake. The Mandrake 'urpmi'
command normally resolves dependency problems. It may also
be available under Red Hat proper; I'm not sure.

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Re: help scp or rsync

[roberto]

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: 
> type the following command:
> 
> rsync -avz -e ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/myself /home/
> 
> this will create a directory myself in /home on your current system 
> (should be A)
> 
i tried the command you gave me and i received the following

rsync: relocation error: rsync: symbol __vsnprintf_chk, version GLIBC_2.3.4 not 
defined in file
libc.so.6 with link time reference

but i do not understand almost anything...
i apt-get rsync in my sarge machine A (OK)

and i installed an rpm from the following site
http://rpm.pbone.net/index.php3/stat/4/idpl/1944456/com/rsync-2.6.5-2.i386.rpm.html
 (OK)

in machine B, where i tried the above command

so do you understand the problem?

Roberto






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Re: Dialer Problems-Only Pon Works

[Debian User Leonard Chatagnier]

Kent West wrote:


Debian User Leonard Chatagnier wrote:

 


I still get the warning about can't write PAP-secrets and
Chap-secrets-Permission denied, when calling wvdial as user.
   



 


What is the Debian preferred way to do this?
   



Is your user a member of the dip and dialout groups? If not, then:

adduser lchata dip
adduser lchata dialout

then log out and back in.

 

Yes, they are.  However, I think I may have added my user id my editing 
with nano.  When I use adduser

it says the user is already in the group.
Leonard


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