Re: 2 monitors on Nvidia GeForce 5700LE using x.org

[[KS]]

strawks wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On ven, 2005-07-22 at 22:21 -0400, [KS] wrote:
> 
>>Hello,
>>
>>I was trying out x.org to use 2 monitors with my Nvidia GeForce 5700LE.
>>After tinkering with the xorg.conf, I finally got the two monitors
>>running using the AGP and the DVI ports(with DVI-AGP converter).
>>However, the desktop is like a widescreen now. Its [EMAIL PROTECTED] now
>>with both monitors running half of it i.e. 1280x1024. Its like my
>>earlier single monitor workspace is streched to double the size.
>>
>>It would be nice to have one workspace on each desktop. With a single
>>workspace on 2monitors, I can't even play Tux Racer as the games screen
>>is rendered half on each monitor. Can it be done? Also, with two
>>different workspaces on the monitors would it be possible  for each
>>monitor to have different resolutions at different frequency.
> 
> 
> You cant take a look at the appendix P of the nvidia README.txt file
> (Configuring Multiple X Screens on One Card)
> 
Thanks, thats what I had read and everything worked out.

/KS


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Re: 2 monitors on Nvidia GeForce 5700LE using x.org

[strawks]

Hi,

On ven, 2005-07-22 at 22:21 -0400, [KS] wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I was trying out x.org to use 2 monitors with my Nvidia GeForce 5700LE.
> After tinkering with the xorg.conf, I finally got the two monitors
> running using the AGP and the DVI ports(with DVI-AGP converter).
> However, the desktop is like a widescreen now. Its [EMAIL PROTECTED] now
> with both monitors running half of it i.e. 1280x1024. Its like my
> earlier single monitor workspace is streched to double the size.
> 
> It would be nice to have one workspace on each desktop. With a single
> workspace on 2monitors, I can't even play Tux Racer as the games screen
> is rendered half on each monitor. Can it be done? Also, with two
> different workspaces on the monitors would it be possible  for each
> monitor to have different resolutions at different frequency.

You cant take a look at the appendix P of the nvidia README.txt file
(Configuring Multiple X Screens on One Card)

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Re: 2 monitors on Nvidia GeForce 5700LE using x.org

[[KS]]

Alvin Oga wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 22 Jul 2005, [KS] wrote:
> 
> 
>>Hello,
>>
>>I was trying out x.org to use 2 monitors with my Nvidia GeForce 5700LE.
>>After tinkering with the xorg.conf, I finally got the two monitors
>>running using the AGP and the DVI ports(with DVI-AGP converter).
> 
> 
> and does it work right ??? - am guessing not
> 

Yes, that worked but it was the same Xscreen for both monitors. My
desktop was streched on both the monitors.

>>Section "Monitor"
>>  Identifier  "Sony CPD E200"
> 
> 
> you need 2 of these "Monitor" definitions, unless both monitors is
> identical manufacturer and models
> 
> 
>>  Modeline"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" 83.91 1280 1312 1624 1656 800 816 
>> 824 841
> 
> 
> throw this(any) Modeline away unless you can say why it is 1312  vs 1323
> or any other random numbers
> 
> 
>>Section "Screen"
>>  Identifier  "Default Screen"
> 
> 
> you need 2 of thse "Screen" definitions
> 
> 
>>  Device  "NVIDIA Corporation NV36 [GeForce FX 5700LE]"
>>  Monitor "Sony CPD E200"
> 
> 
> you need to have a way to distinguish "monitor1"  from "monitor2"
> 
> 
>>  Option  "TwinView" "true"
> 
> 
> twinview is a different x11 driver than nvidia chipset you're using
> 
> 
>>  Option  "Xinerama" "on"
> 
> 
> you can turn is on or off to see what it does to the stuff
> you see on both screens
>  
> 
>>  Modes   "1600x1200" "1440x900" "1400x1050" "1280x1024" 
>> "1280x960"
>>"1280x854" "1280x800" "1280x768" "1200x800" "1152x864" "1152x768"
>>"1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
> 
> 
> messy ...
> 
> 
> 
>>Section "ServerLayout"
>>  Identifier  "Default Layout"
>>  Screen  "Default Screen"
>>  InputDevice "Generic Keyboard"
>>  InputDevice "Configured Mouse"
>>EndSection
> 
> 
> the above should reflect left monitor and right monitor
> 
> dual screen examples
>   http://Linux-1U.net/X11
> 
> c ya
> alvin
> 
> 

Finally got it working for different Xscreens for different monitors.
Below is the xorg.conf if anyone needs it:

Section "Files"
FontPath"unix/:7100"# local font server
# if the local font server has problems, we can fall back on these
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/CID"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi"
EndSection

Section "Module"
Load"bitmap"
Load"dbe"
Load"ddc"
#   Load"dri"
Load"extmod"
Load"freetype"
Load"glx"
Load"int10"
Load"record"
Load"type1"
Load"vbe"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Generic Keyboard"
Driver  "keyboard"
Option  "CoreKeyboard"
Option  "XkbRules"  "xorg"
Option  "XkbModel"  "pc104"
Option  "XkbLayout" "us"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Configured Mouse"
Driver  "mouse"
Option  "CorePointer"
Option  "Device""/dev/input/mice"
Option  "Protocol"  "ImPS/2"
Option  "Emulate3Buttons"   "true"
Option  "ZAxisMapping"  "4 5"
EndSection

Section "Device"
Identifier  "NVIDIA Corporation NV36 [GeForce FX 5700LE]-0"
Driver  "nvidia"
#Driver "nv"
BusID   "PCI:1:0:0"
Screen  0
#   Option  "TwinView"
#   Option  "SecondMonitorHorizSync"   "30-70"
#   Option  "SecondMonitorVertRefresh" "50-160"
#   Option  "TwinViewOrientation"  "RightOf"
#   Option  "MetaModes""1280x1024,1280x1024;
1024x768,1024x768"
#   Option  "ConnectedMonitor" "crt,crt"
EndSection

Section "Device"
Identifier  "NVIDIA Corporation NV36 [GeForce FX 5700LE]-1"
Driver  "nvidia"
BusID   "PCI:1:0:0"
Screen  1
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier  "Sony CPD E200"
Option  "DPMS"
#HorizSync  30-75
#VertRefresh50-85
HorizSync   30-85
VertRefresh 48-120
#   Modeline"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" 83.91 1280 1312 1624 1656 800 816 
824 841
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier  "DELL E772c"
HorizSync   30-70
VertRefresh 50-160
Option  "DPMS"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier  "Screen0"
Device  "NVIDIA

Re: Comments Wanted: Mozilla localstart page

[Rogério Brito]

On Jul 22 2005, [KS] wrote:
> The page is available at http://nvu.atspace.org/localstart.html

Even though I don't use any page a start page (for dealing with a resource
starved computer), I think that you page is a major improvement over what
Debian currently has to offer.

Like I said in the past few comments, I am using the Mozilla suite
(Seamonkey), but as Geeko is the underlying engine among the projects from
the Mozilla Foundation, I think that it could be used for all Mozilla
browsers available in Debian (epiphany, seamonkey, firefox etc).

Well done.


Cheers, Rogério.

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Problems setting up ATI Radeon 9200SE on X.org

[Romulo Sousa]

Hi folks,

I'm trying to configure my video card using xorg w/ ATI driver.
Unfortunately, I could not set up the direct rendering (DRI). How can
fix that in order to see properly the 3D graphics w/ OpenGL??

Thanks,

Romulo Sousa

Re: fluxbox's slow startup and neglect of 'startup' file

[Mr Mike]

On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 12:09:38 +0800, phyrster wrote:

> Hi Debianers'
> 
> My configuration is  kdm+fluxbox in utf-8 environment on Sarge.
> 
> I have already known that fluxbox's slow start is due to its incompatibility
> with utf8 environment. And the easiest solution I can see is to export a
> temporary locale to fluxbox when it starts and the restore a the default
> locale. 
> 
> The question is how to do this when I am using kdm to manage graphic login? 

Unfortunately, I have to let someone else take a crack at this one..


> 
> Another problem is fluxbox refuses to source .fluxbox/startup file when
> loading. I don't know what's wrong. Here is a copy of my startup file:

Change your fluxbox.desktop to /usr/bin/startfluxbox 


> 
> 
> # Programs which need to run constantly, as opposed to a one time execution,
> # need "&" at the end of the command.
> 
> # Show the Fluxbox splash-screen
> #fbsetbg -C /usr/share/fluxbox/splash.jpg
> 
> # This sets a background. You must have a program setup to do this
> # (x11-terms/eterm is recommended)
> bsetbg -f Blueworld.jpg
> 
> # Custom fonts directory
> #xset +fp PATH_TO_FONT_DIRECTORY
> 
> # Starts the icons program
> idesk &
> 
> # Launches the Torsmo system monitor
> torsmo &
> 
> scim -d &
> # This MUST be the last command!
> exec /usr/bin/fluxbox -log ~/.fluxbox/log
> 
> 
> Is this startup file correct? Do I need to add #!/bin/bash or something on
> top?
> 
> 
> regards, 
> 
> 
> bxuef



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Re: No Screens Found

[Andrew Sackville-West]

Please CC: the list on replies so others may share in my lack of wisdom.



Cecil wrote:


XF86Config-4:  Section "Files" (omitted)



   Section "Module" Load "GLcore"  "bitmap" "dbe" 
"dri" "extmod" "freetype" "glx" "int10" "pex5" "record" "speedo" "type1" 
"vbe" "xie"

   End Section
   Section "Input Device" (omitted)
   Section "Device"
   Identifier  "NVIDIA Corporation  GeForce 256 DDR [NV10]"
   Driver  "nv"
   Option   "Use FBDev" "True"
   End Section
   Section "Monitor"
   Identifier  "IBM E74"
   HorizSync  "30-69"
   VertRefresh  "50-120"
   Option  "DPMS"
   End Section
   Section "Screen"
   Identifier "Default Screen"
   Device  "NVIDIA GeForce 256 DDR [NV10]"
   Monitor  "IBM E74"
   Default Depth  24
SubSection  "Display"
   Depth 1, 4, 8, 15, 16, 24
   Modes  "1280x1024" "1280x960" "1152x864" "1024x768" 
"800x600" "640x480" (for all depths)

   End SubSectionEnd Section



I've never seen "Display" like this. I think those depths should be 
split up. I've only installed X a couple of times, but my XF86Config(-4) 
has always split the Displays like this:


Section "Screen"
Identifier "Default Screen"
Device  "NVIDIA GeForce 256 DDR [NV10]"
Monitor  "IBM E74"
Default Depth  24
 SubSection  "Display"
Depth 1
Modes  "1280x1024" "1280x960" "1152x864" "1024x768"
 "800x600" "640x480"
End SubSection
 SubSection  "Display"
Depth 4
Modes  "1280x1024" "1280x960" "1152x864" "1024x768"
 "800x600" "640x480"
End SubSection
 SubSection  "Display"
Depth 8
Modes  "1280x1024" "1280x960" "1152x864" "1024x768"
 "800x600" "640x480"
End SubSection
 SubSection  "Display"
Depth 15
Modes  "1280x1024" "1280x960" "1152x864" "1024x768"
 "800x600" "640x480"
End SubSection
 SubSection  "Display"
Depth 16
Modes  "1280x1024" "1280x960" "1152x864" "1024x768"
 "800x600" "640x480"
End SubSection
 SubSection  "Display"
Depth 24
Modes  "1280x1024" "1280x960" "1152x864" "1024x768"
 "800x600" "640x480"
End SubSection
End Section

something tells me this isn't the problem, but maybe?






Whether Sarge is the current version or not is of little consequence as 
XFree86 worked on this computer after the first installation of Woody, 
and only failed after the second installation.  But I forgot to tell you 
that the first installation was with Ext2 fs, the second with Ext3.  And 
xf86config does create the XF86Config-4 file in /etc/X11.  If its age is 
a debilitating factor, why would xf86config be put in the path?  I see 
no vesa driver in the driver list, but there is a generic VGA driver.  I 
tried itsame error.


can't image that ext2 ext3 is an issue. did you save your old 
xf86config? is it on a backup somewhere?




X -configure  produces the same nv driver entry, lists NVidia as the 
vendor name, and lists GeForce DDR as the board name.  But it lists the 
screen as "Screen0", not "Default Screen"  X fails with same error. 
Moved XF86Config.new from / to /etc/X11, renamed it to XF86Config-4, X 
fails, same error.  A screen message says the XF86Config-4 file is now 
"Data Incomplete."  Ran dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 (so this is 
where the vesa is!!), same error, but no "Data Incomplete" error.  Ran 
it three times, changing the driver from vesa to nv, the ram from 32768 
to 16384, same error.

Any other suggestions?


all I can say is, go over the configs with a fine-toothed comb. 
everytime I run into trouble its usually something silly like a typo or 
improperly structured section in xf86config.


hth

A

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Re: 2 monitors on Nvidia GeForce 5700LE using x.org

[Alvin Oga]

On Fri, 22 Jul 2005, [KS] wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> I was trying out x.org to use 2 monitors with my Nvidia GeForce 5700LE.
> After tinkering with the xorg.conf, I finally got the two monitors
> running using the AGP and the DVI ports(with DVI-AGP converter).

and does it work right ??? - am guessing not


> Section "Monitor"
>   Identifier  "Sony CPD E200"

you need 2 of these "Monitor" definitions, unless both monitors is
identical manufacturer and models

>   Modeline"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" 83.91 1280 1312 1624 1656 800 816 
> 824 841

throw this(any) Modeline away unless you can say why it is 1312  vs 1323
or any other random numbers

> Section "Screen"
>   Identifier  "Default Screen"

you need 2 of thse "Screen" definitions

>   Device  "NVIDIA Corporation NV36 [GeForce FX 5700LE]"
>   Monitor "Sony CPD E200"

you need to have a way to distinguish "monitor1"  from "monitor2"

>   Option  "TwinView" "true"

twinview is a different x11 driver than nvidia chipset you're using

>   Option  "Xinerama" "on"

you can turn is on or off to see what it does to the stuff
you see on both screens
 
>   Modes   "1600x1200" "1440x900" "1400x1050" "1280x1024" 
> "1280x960"
> "1280x854" "1280x800" "1280x768" "1200x800" "1152x864" "1152x768"
> "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"

messy ...


> Section "ServerLayout"
>   Identifier  "Default Layout"
>   Screen  "Default Screen"
>   InputDevice "Generic Keyboard"
>   InputDevice "Configured Mouse"
> EndSection

the above should reflect left monitor and right monitor

dual screen examples
http://Linux-1U.net/X11

c ya
alvin


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ALSA OSS emulation endianness

[Camilo Alejandro]

Helo,

First, sorry for my english. 

Second, I have debian sarge configured with Alsa and OSS emulation,
running in an athon XP based system. I stream my music using xmms and
icecast2. It was working for a while, and stoped working one day
because of no (aparent) reason.

Now I'm having some weird behavior:
- I configure xmms to decode to stdout via libOSS output plugin.
- run "xmms > /dev/dsp" and I it sounds ok.
- run "xmmx | oggenc -r -o file.ogg -" and then "ogg123 file.ogg" and
i get noise.
- run "xmms | oggenc -r --raw-endiannes 1 -o file.ogg -" and then
"ogg123 file.ogg" and it sounds fine.

If I try with mpg123 instead of xmms:
- run "mpg123 -s file.mp3 > /dev/dsp" -> noise.
- run "mpg123 -s file.mp3 | oggenc -r -o file.ogg -" and then "ogg123
file.ogg" and it sounds ok.

Given that mpg123 doesn't use liboss to generate the ouptut, it looks
like OSS emulation is using bigger-endian order, but I'm not sure why
or how could I change it.

Thanks in advance

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Can kdm 'source' ~/.xinitrc ?

[phyrster]

Hi, 


I am using fluxbox and normally use 'startx' to run it. 'startx' can of
course run '.xinitrc' in $HOME. 

However this takes a few extra steps to enter graphic interface. I am
thinking of using kdm's auto login feature together with fluxbox. 

But kdm don't run '.xinitrc' and thus some environment settings and a few
auto run programmes can't be started. 

My question is there anyway to make kdm use '.xinitrc' like startx does?


regards, 


bxuef



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Re: gdb not able to display the contents of source code

[kamaraju kusumanchi]

David E. Fox wrote:


On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 13:00:18 -0400
kamaraju kusumanchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


 


(gdb) list
1   ../sysdeps/i386/elf/start.S: No such file or directory.
   in ../sysdeps/i386/elf/start.S
(gdb)
   



I get the same output you do on a different small test program but it
seems that the error doesn't cause a problem. For instance I can do a
'break main' and then step line by line and am able to view the source,
check the status of variables and so on.

 

Thanks. Now I at least know that it is reproducible. Just today morning, 
I reported it to the BTS.


http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=319520

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2 monitors on Nvidia GeForce 5700LE using x.org

[[KS]]

Hello,

I was trying out x.org to use 2 monitors with my Nvidia GeForce 5700LE.
After tinkering with the xorg.conf, I finally got the two monitors
running using the AGP and the DVI ports(with DVI-AGP converter).
However, the desktop is like a widescreen now. Its [EMAIL PROTECTED] now
with both monitors running half of it i.e. 1280x1024. Its like my
earlier single monitor workspace is streched to double the size.

It would be nice to have one workspace on each desktop. With a single
workspace on 2monitors, I can't even play Tux Racer as the games screen
is rendered half on each monitor. Can it be done? Also, with two
different workspaces on the monitors would it be possible  for each
monitor to have different resolutions at different frequency.

Any help would be highly appreciated.

Thanks,
/KS

My current xorg.conf is below:
Section "Files"
FontPath"unix/:7100"# local font server
# if the local font server has problems, we can fall back on these
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/CID"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi"
EndSection

Section "Module"
Load"bitmap"
Load"dbe"
Load"ddc"
#   Load"dri"
Load"extmod"
Load"freetype"
Load"glx"
Load"int10"
Load"record"
Load"type1"
Load"vbe"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Generic Keyboard"
Driver  "keyboard"
Option  "CoreKeyboard"
Option  "XkbRules"  "xorg"
Option  "XkbModel"  "pc104"
Option  "XkbLayout" "us"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Configured Mouse"
Driver  "mouse"
Option  "CorePointer"
Option  "Device""/dev/input/mice"
Option  "Protocol"  "ImPS/2"
Option  "Emulate3Buttons"   "true"
Option  "ZAxisMapping"  "4 5"
EndSection

Section "Device"
Identifier  "NVIDIA Corporation NV36 [GeForce FX 5700LE]"
Driver  "nvidia"
#Driver "nv"
BusID   "PCI:1:0:0"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier  "Sony CPD E200"
Option  "DPMS"
#HorizSync  30-75
#VertRefresh50-85
HorizSync   30-85
VertRefresh 48-120
Modeline"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" 83.91 1280 1312 1624 1656 800 816 
824 841
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier  "Default Screen"
Device  "NVIDIA Corporation NV36 [GeForce FX 5700LE]"
Monitor "Sony CPD E200"
DefaultDepth24

Option  "NvAGP" "1"
Option  "TwinView" "true"
Option  "SecondMonitorHorizSync" "30.0-70.0"
Option  "SecondMonitorVertRefresh" "50.0-160.0"
Option  "MetaModes" "1280x1024, 1280x1024; 1280x1024, 
1280x1024;"
Option  "TwinViewOrientation" "RightOf"
Option  "Xinerama" "on"

SubSection "Display"
Depth   1
Modes   "1600x1200" "1440x900" "1400x1050" "1280x1024" 
"1280x960"
"1280x854" "1280x800" "1280x768" "1200x800" "1152x864" "1152x768"
"1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth   4
Modes   "1600x1200" "1440x900" "1400x1050" "1280x1024" 
"1280x960"
"1280x854" "1280x800" "1280x768" "1200x800" "1152x864" "1152x768"
"1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth   8
Modes   "1600x1200" "1440x900" "1400x1050" "1280x1024" 
"1280x960"
"1280x854" "1280x800" "1280x768" "1200x800" "1152x864" "1152x768"
"1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth   15
Modes   "1600x1200" "1440x900" "1400x1050" "1280x1024" 
"1280x960"
"1280x854" "1280x800" "1280x768" "1200x800" "1152x864" "1152x768"
"1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth   16
Modes   "1600x1200" "1440x900" "1400x1050" "1280x1024" 
"1280x960"
"1280x854" "1280x800" "1280x768" "1200x800" "1152x864" "1152x768"
"1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth   24
Modes   "1600x1200" "1440x900" "1400x1050" "1280x1024

Re: VMware

[disciple]

thanks!!!


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Re: gdb not able to display the contents of source code

[David E. Fox]

On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 13:00:18 -0400
kamaraju kusumanchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


> (gdb) list
> 1   ../sysdeps/i386/elf/start.S: No such file or directory.
> in ../sysdeps/i386/elf/start.S
> (gdb)

I get the same output you do on a different small test program but it
seems that the error doesn't cause a problem. For instance I can do a
'break main' and then step line by line and am able to view the source,
check the status of variables and so on.

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Re: For the love of GOD!!!

[Bob Proulx]

Michael Marsh wrote:
> What's wrong with
> $ ls -d .*
> ?

That does have the effect of listing . and .. in the listing.

An old idiom was using ? which does not match a . in the list.

  ls -d .??*

Of course that does skip all files that match .? only.  So it is not
perfect but quite close.

Bob


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Re: Good GUI for essid selection?

[Stephen R Laniel]

On Fri, Jul 22, 2005 at 08:11:47PM -0500, Damon Chesser wrote:
> Of course not, but the average user does not set this up anyway, the IT geek 
> that gives him or her the box does.

Mmm ... well, not quite. Check out how OS X handles this. Or
how Windows does, for that matter. Under OS X, I go to a
dropdown menu and get a list of all the available hotspots
in my area. I select the one I want. If I need a WEP or WPA
key to access it, OS X prompts me for it. I click a checkbox
to save that key in my Keychain. From then on, OS X will
never ask me for the key; the next time I come near that
hotspot, it will automatically provide the stored key.
Presumably it has saved the WEP/WPA key on disk, mapped to
the hotspot's MAC address. Linux should be doing the same.

I don't think OS X will store the ESSID of a hotspot that
uses a hidden ESSID, even if the user has typed in that
ESSID before. OS X certainly provides no easy facility for
cracking WEP/WPA keys, a la airsnort, and remembering those
keys later on.

I'm not sure how to make OS X prioritize hotspots. In
Windows it's easy.

All of this should be equally easy in Linux, if we expect to
compete. And it must be a GUI.

I intend to perform an experiment, whereby I don't touch the
command line -- or apps like mutt that scare end users --
for a month. I'm curious how well I'd do. Not so well at the
moment, given that I'm running the development (Breezy)
build of Ubuntu, and I need to make the /dev/input/mice node
to get X to start. But maybe it'll be possible once Breezy
stabilizes.

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Re: For the love of GOD!!!

[Bob Proulx]

John Hasler wrote:
> Bob writes:
> > Select None and no locale setting will be placed /etc/environment and
> > that will make C/POSIX the default for your system.
> 
> Note that the POSIX locale uses dictionary order.

What makes you say that?  I believe you are mistaken.  Can you provide
an example?

  printf "A\na\nB\nb\n" | LC_ALL=POSIX sort
  A
  B
  a
  b

That is not dictionary sort ordering.

  printf "A\na\nB\nb\n" | LC_ALL=en_US.UTF-8 sort
  a
  A
  b
  B

That is dictionary sort ordering.

Bob


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Compiling ALSA: init_module undefined

[Ryan Heise]

I am trying to build alsa-source using the build instructions in
/usr/share/doc/alsa-source/README.Debian

I get "cleanup_module undefined" and "init_module undefined" as
described below.

Someone suggested it might be a problem with debian:

http://www.stanchina.net/~flavio/debian/fglrx-archive/msg00486.html

I'm compiling alsa 1.0.9 with kernel 2.6.11. I'm using debian testing
packages.

Here is my typescript:

# fakeroot debian/rules binary_modules 
KSRC=/usr/src/kernel-headers-2.6.11-1-686 KVERS=2.6.11-1-686

*** Warning: "cleanup_module" [/usr/src/modules/alsa-driver/usb/snd-usb-lib.ko] 
undefined!
*** Warning: "init_module" [/usr/src/modules/alsa-driver/usb/snd-usb-lib.ko] 
undefined!

# dpkg -i ---.deb

# modprobe snd-usb-audio
WARNING: Error inserting snd_usb_lib 
(/lib/modules/2.6.11-1-686/updates/alsa/usb/snd-usb-lib.ko): Unknown symbol in 
module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
WARNING: Error inserting snd_usb_lib 
(/lib/modules/2.6.11-1-686/updates/alsa/usb/snd-usb-lib.ko): Unknown symbol in 
module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
FATAL: Error inserting snd_usb_audio 
(/lib/modules/2.6.11-1-686/updates/alsa/usb/snd-usb-audio.ko): Unknown symbol 
in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)FATAL: Error running install command 
for snd_usb_audio

# dmesg
snd_usb_lib: Unknown symbol cleanup_module
snd_usb_lib: Unknown symbol init_module
snd_usb_audio: Unknown symbol snd_usb_create_midi_interface
snd_usb_audio: Unknown symbol snd_usbmidi_disconnect



Note that the kpkg build method doesn't work at all, which is why I used
the above method.


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Re: Good GUI for essid selection?

[Damon Chesser]

On Friday 22 July 2005 19:33, Stephen R Laniel wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 22, 2005 at 09:18:29PM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> > Yes, it has. wpa-supplicant. And, as a working network has nothing to do
> > with GUIs, it is a daemon.
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > > Is this sort of thing available?
> >
> > Not out-of-the-box, but you can probably script it up using
> > wpa-supplicant.
>
> With all due respect, Debian and its derivatives will never
> compete with OS X or Windows unless they make this seamless
> for the end-user. I shouldn't have to script it; along with
> a web browser and an office suite, seamless networking that
> you rarely have to think about is essential for the
> end-user.
>
> I'm perfectly able to script such a thing, but the average
> user shouldn't be expected to do so.
Of course not, but the average user does not set this up anyway, the IT geek 
that gives him or her the box does.  Wpa-supplicant takes no scripting, you 
just fill in the info, and call wpasupplicant.  not hard.  BTW the 
gnome-network-tool listed in this thread is bugy as hell and not yet ready 
for prime time.  Of course iwconfig eth/athX esssid "whatever" key s:x is 
not to hard to do.  But it is hard to come by how to config that..

But I do agree, linux has miles to go before joe internet can crash the 
internet using linux.  Ubuntu is making serious roads in to that realm, but 
they fall on the "Free" software.  Joe internet wants java and flash and 3d 
vid, and does not care that it is Non-free.  But for anybody who wants to get 
just a littel bit dirty, Linux flat out rocks.

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Re: Comments Wanted: Mozilla localstart page

[[KS]]

Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 22, 2005 at 03:33:33PM -0400, [KS] wrote:
> 
>>Hi all,
>>
>>I had tried my CSS skills to redo the mozilla localstart page, and sent
>>the new one to the debian mozilla package maintainer for comments. Don't
>>know why, but I never got a reply from the maintainer!
>>
>>The page is available at http://nvu.atspace.org/localstart.html It does
>>not use any images from the web as the current local start page. As the
>>page is distributed with mozilla on debian, I thought that it would be
>>nice to have the look-and-feel of the debian website on the start page.
>>The initial design was done when www.debian.org used images to make
>>curves of the links in the red navigation bar. I simulated those using
>>the -moz-border-radius mozilla style rule for making curved corners.
>>(www.debian.org style sheet was recently changed to use -moz-border-radius).
>>
>>Please send in your comments and recommendations and feel free to
>>download, save in on your machine and have it as your new localstart page.
>>
> 
> 
> Have you tried filing a bug at wishlist or minor priority?  Also attach
> a patch that places the new page where the original is.  Make it as easy
> as you can for the maintainer and you might find that your suggestion is
> more readily accepted.  That said, the maintainer may simply not want to
> bother with it.
> 
> -Roberto

Ok, I filed a bug(wishlist) for a new localstart.html. Hopefully, the
maintainer will respond in some way!

/KS


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Re: Debian Sarge to Etch

[Paul E Condon]

On Sat, Jul 23, 2005 at 12:22:05AM +0100, Philip Radford wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> Are the packages from Etch available to be installed on a Sarge installation. 
> I may be getting myself confused as there is also reference to Sid which may 
> or may not be Etch before it is officially made stable.
> 
> Can anybody clarify this for me.
> 
> Many thanks.
> 
> Regards
> Phil
> 

This is not an official response to the question. 
A few weeks ago, Sarge was officially released as the new stable version of 
Debian.
At that moment, Sarge and Etch were de facto identical. Any package that was 
valid
for Sarge was also valid for Etch. But Sarge is stable. That means that it does 
not
change unless there is a recently discovered security issue that can be fixed 
with
a patch to a few packages. And Etch is testing. That means that it does change 
as
new versions of packages become available and are included. The whole process 
is 
gradual, but over time, the two will become less and less similar. But both will
be Debian. And, no matter what happens to Etch, it will be possible to upgrade 
from
Sarge to Etch by using apt-get dist-upgrade. If the developers discover that 
they
have wandered into a corner where this is not possible, there will be a  LOT OF 
NOISE AND SHOUTING. You will know about it. 

No one can know the future, but within that constaint, Debian trys to make the
transition from one distribution smooth and gradual. And the
underlying reality of the Debian system makes that realistically possible.

So, think what is it that you are worried about? Etch will eventually become the
official stable version of Debian. Before this happens, you may wish to use some
packages from Etch. How badly do you want them? Badly enough to help debug them?
How much pain are you willing to endure? How much pain will you have to endure?
It depends on which packages you want and what is your threshold of pain. I
guess that nothing about using Etch will be life threatening. So go for it.

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Re: VMware

[Jaalkab cha']

Hello list,

i don't have any problem at all, i run W2003 server and QNX...

best regards
jaalkab cha'

On Fri, 2005-07-22 at 18:36 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I just checked out VMware's site and it did not list Debian as a distro
> that it supports.  Has anyone had any problems with this?  The cost is
> $189.00 for the download.  If there is a problem with VMware, is there an
> alternative?
> 
> Thanks everyone...
> 

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En busca de un sueño
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Re: VMware

[Jules Dubois]

On Friday 22 July 2005 16:36, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
(<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:

> I just checked out VMware's site and it did not list Debian as a distro
> that it supports.  Has anyone had any problems with this?  The cost is
> $189.00 for the download.  If there is a problem with VMware, is there an
> alternative?

An alternative to do what?


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Re: VMware

[Łukasz Andrzejak]

Btw - you can always download a trial version of vmware after 
registration on the site - and simply check if it works for you, and 
does what you expect it to do.


Cheers
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Re: Good GUI for essid selection?

[Stephen R Laniel]

On Fri, Jul 22, 2005 at 09:18:29PM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> Yes, it has. wpa-supplicant. And, as a working network has nothing to do
> with GUIs, it is a daemon.
> 
> [...]
> > Is this sort of thing available?
> 
> Not out-of-the-box, but you can probably script it up using wpa-supplicant.

With all due respect, Debian and its derivatives will never
compete with OS X or Windows unless they make this seamless
for the end-user. I shouldn't have to script it; along with
a web browser and an office suite, seamless networking that
you rarely have to think about is essential for the
end-user.

I'm perfectly able to script such a thing, but the average
user shouldn't be expected to do so.

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Re: Debian Sarge to Etch

[Jules Dubois]

On Friday 22 July 2005 17:22, Philip Radford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
(<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:

> I may be getting myself confused as there is also reference
> to Sid which may or may not be Etch before it is officially made stable.

I can't answer the first question (which I've deleted) but Sid is always
Sid; Sid is never Sarge, Etch, or any other release.


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Re: Good GUI for essid selection?

[Henrique de Moraes Holschuh]

On Wed, 20 Jul 2005, Stephen R Laniel wrote:
> Windows will associate with it. Does Linux have such a
> thing? I've not found it, if so. Ubu seems like the most
> likely distro to innovate on this sort of usability feature.

Yes, it has. wpa-supplicant. And, as a working network has nothing to do
with GUIs, it is a daemon.

[...]
> Is this sort of thing available?

Not out-of-the-box, but you can probably script it up using wpa-supplicant.

-- 
  "One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring
  them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond
  where the shadows lie." -- The Silicon Valley Tarot
  Henrique Holschuh


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Re: VMware

[Łukasz Andrzejak]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I just checked out VMware's site and it did not list Debian as a distro
that it supports.  Has anyone had any problems with this?  The cost is
$189.00 for the download.  If there is a problem with VMware, is there an
alternative?

Thanks everyone...


 

Ive had no trouble with vmware on my sarge/etch boxes, but i did have to 
apply a patch for my kernel version (some trouble with the built-ins 
from vmware not working with 2.6.11).
Other then that ive been looking into 
Qemu(http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/qemu/) - but i ive only gone as far 
as reading the webpage due to lack of time to actually try it out.


Has anyone tried Quemu and could share their experiences ?

Cheers
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Debian Sarge to Etch

[Philip Radford]

Hi All,

Are the packages from Etch available to be installed on a Sarge installation. I 
may be getting myself confused as there is also reference to Sid which may or 
may not be Etch before it is officially made stable.

Can anybody clarify this for me.

Many thanks.

Regards
Phil

VMware

[disciple]

I just checked out VMware's site and it did not list Debian as a distro
that it supports.  Has anyone had any problems with this?  The cost is
$189.00 for the download.  If there is a problem with VMware, is there an
alternative?

Thanks everyone...


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Re: novell hula open source project?

[Cam]

Ok, i feel like a jerk for replying to my own email so quick... but
here's some info i've dug up:


Can I use Hula with an existing MTA?
Hula provides an MTA by default, but it won't be hard to get Hula to
play with an existing MTA. We will be providing instructions for doing
this sometime soon, watch this space!


So it's undocumented but i will play around w/ it and try to get it
working w/ all my stuff (hopefully not just the mta).  Still, if
anyone has prior experience or tips that would be a life saver.

Thanks!
Cameron Matheson


On 7/22/05, Cam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I'm setting up a web server.  Everything is finished except for the
> webmail portion.  The setup i have going on currently is
> Postfix/Courier(IMAP and POP)/MySQL(for the virtual users)/Amavis(w/
> ClamAV and Spamassassin).  That stuff is all working really great.
> The portion i am lacking is webmail.  Initially i tried sqwebmail
> (courier), but it was just way too ugly and i would feel guilty giving
> that to the users.  Then i checked out squirellmail, which is a step
> in the right direction, although still a little bland (maybe not too
> big of a deal?).  A friend recommended Hula to me.  The interface is
> beautiful, and i like a lot of the features.  Unfortunately, it seems
> that it wants to do *everything* (be it's own mail server, web server,
> imap server, etc.).  That seems like a lot of crap when i already have
> *all* of that stuff working anyway.  Would it be worth it to run
> anyway? Hula is easily moved to other ports so that you can have the
> services running side-by-side, but is it worth it to do it this way?
> will i take a huge performance hit?  tips or experience would be
> appreciated.
> 
> Thanks,
> Cameron Matheson
>

Re: novell hula open source project?

[Roberto C. Sanchez]

On Fri, Jul 22, 2005 at 04:43:23PM -0600, Cam wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I'm setting up a web server.  Everything is finished except for the
> webmail portion.  The setup i have going on currently is
> Postfix/Courier(IMAP and POP)/MySQL(for the virtual users)/Amavis(w/
> ClamAV and Spamassassin).  That stuff is all working really great. 
> The portion i am lacking is webmail.  Initially i tried sqwebmail
> (courier), but it was just way too ugly and i would feel guilty giving
> that to the users.  Then i checked out squirellmail, which is a step
> in the right direction, although still a little bland (maybe not too
> big of a deal?).  A friend recommended Hula to me.  The interface is
> beautiful, and i like a lot of the features.  Unfortunately, it seems
> that it wants to do *everything* (be it's own mail server, web server,
> imap server, etc.).  That seems like a lot of crap when i already have
> *all* of that stuff working anyway.  Would it be worth it to run
> anyway? Hula is easily moved to other ports so that you can have the
> services running side-by-side, but is it worth it to do it this way? 
> will i take a huge performance hit?  tips or experience would be
> appreciated.
> 

Use Horde.  The new version 3 is in Sarge.  It has a nice interface,
lots of available apps/modules and very configurable.  The university I
attended as an undergrad used it on a big iron server to provide webmail
access to about 40,000 users.

-Roberto
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novell hula open source project?

[Cam]

Hi,

I'm setting up a web server.  Everything is finished except for the
webmail portion.  The setup i have going on currently is
Postfix/Courier(IMAP and POP)/MySQL(for the virtual users)/Amavis(w/
ClamAV and Spamassassin).  That stuff is all working really great. 
The portion i am lacking is webmail.  Initially i tried sqwebmail
(courier), but it was just way too ugly and i would feel guilty giving
that to the users.  Then i checked out squirellmail, which is a step
in the right direction, although still a little bland (maybe not too
big of a deal?).  A friend recommended Hula to me.  The interface is
beautiful, and i like a lot of the features.  Unfortunately, it seems
that it wants to do *everything* (be it's own mail server, web server,
imap server, etc.).  That seems like a lot of crap when i already have
*all* of that stuff working anyway.  Would it be worth it to run
anyway? Hula is easily moved to other ports so that you can have the
services running side-by-side, but is it worth it to do it this way? 
will i take a huge performance hit?  tips or experience would be
appreciated.

Thanks,
Cameron Matheson

sid: many Package x has broken dep on y

[Dan Jacobson]

These days in sid, I get lots of
"Package x has broken dep on y"
from apt-get, where x =
odbcinst1debian1 libjack0.80.0-0 openoffice.org-bin
gnome-control-center libgc1c2 libaspell15c2 xserver-xorg libenchant1c2
libaiksaurus-1.2-0 aspell x-window-system-core libplot2c2 plotutils
libwpd8c2 libaiksaurusgtk-1.2-0 pdl pdl pdl libtiffxx0c2 gksu
libmyspell3c2 abiword-plugins abiword-doc pgaccess plucker-desktop
libjack0.80.0-0 abiword aspell-en libtiff4-dev libjack0.100.0-0
abiword-common abiword-common tapiir abiword-help jack-rack jamin
e.g.,
openoffice.org-bin has broken dep on libwpd8
Am I doing something wrong?


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wmaker xmessage popups

[lance]

Anyone know if there is a way to specify which window xmessage or 
gxmessage will popup in?
Is there another program that could be used that one could specify the 
particular window to

popup a message in?

Lance


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Re: A little something quirky....

[Clive Menzies]

On (22/07/05 12:11), Alex Malinovich wrote:
> On Thu, 2005-07-21 at 12:59 -0700, ke6isf wrote:
> > I just realized that every time I do an apt-get update - and I mean EVERY
> > time - the repository over on purdue.edu always gets the Packages and
> > Release data files.  Most recent test was today, and I did two updates in
> > less than five minutes.  (I had added contrib and non-free to a handful of
> > mirrors in the file.)
> > 
> > Is this a bug, or a feature?
> 
> Not sure exactly what you mean here. If you mean that every time you do
> an apt-get update it contacts purdue.edu to check for the Packages and
> Release files, then this is correct (assuming that purdue.edu is the
> mirror you have set up in /etc/apt/sources.list).
> 
> If you mean something else then I'm not sure what you mean. If that is
> the case post the output you're getting and then point out what part
> you're asking about.
> 
My understanding is that if the OP runs apt-get update several times in
succession, it downloads them afresh every time.

Can you post the output?

After the second apt-get update, you should get something like:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo aptitude update
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading extended state information
Initializing package states... Done
Get:1 http://ftp.nl.debian.org sid Release.gpg [189B]
Hit http://ftp.nl.debian.org sid Release
Get:2 http://ftp.de.debian.org sid Release.gpg [189B]
Hit http://ftp.de.debian.org sid Release
Hit http://ftp.nl.debian.org sid/main Packages
Hit http://ftp.nl.debian.org sid/contrib Packages
Hit http://ftp.nl.debian.org sid/non-free Packages
Hit http://ftp.nl.debian.org sid/main Sources
Hit http://ftp.nl.debian.org sid/contrib Sources
Hit http://ftp.nl.debian.org sid/non-free Sources
Hit http://ftp.de.debian.org sid/main Packages
Hit http://ftp.de.debian.org sid/contrib Packages
Hit http://ftp.de.debian.org sid/non-free Packages
Hit http://ftp.de.debian.org sid/main Sources
Hit http://ftp.de.debian.org sid/contrib Sources
Hit http://ftp.de.debian.org sid/non-free Sources
Fetched 2B in 0s (3B/s)
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading extended state information
Initializing package states... Done

Note: Fetched 2B in 0s (3B/s)

Regards

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Re: Debian and wireless network cards

[Maykon Silveira]

I have an D-link DWL-650 working with Debian Sarge kernel 2.6.

2005/7/21, Leonid Grinberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Hello,
> 
> I was asked by a friend to install Debian on his system. He asked me
> about which wireless network cards Debian supports. Can anybody tell
> me which ones (I personally don't use a wireless network so I wouldn't
> know).
> 
> Thanks,
> Leonid Grinberg
> 
> 


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Re: aptitude

[Clive Menzies]

On (22/07/05 09:47), Edward Dunagin wrote:
> i tried to post this before subscribing to the list.
> so if this is a duplicate..sorry.
> 
> when i run aptitude update i get a response that tells
> me that 78 files are to be removed. lots of gnome and
> libs. (i use kde) but i see one or two of the listed
> files that are to be removed, as files that i use and
> need.
> 
> can anyone explain whats going on here?

Are you running sid? It could be that a package being updated is
conflicting in someway with what aptitude wants to remove.  If you go
into aptitude and press G (only once), you will see all the actions it
wants to take.

Where it wants to remove something, press + and you'll probably get an
indication of where the conflict lies.

Regards

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Re: Re: newbie KDE screen resolution?

[Roger Creasy]

On 7/22/05, Roger Creasy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> 
> --- kamaraju kusumanchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> 
> > Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 22:15:55 -0400
> > From: kamaraju kusumanchi
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: debian user 
> > Subject: Re: newbie KDE screen resolution?
> >
> > Roger Creasy wrote:
> >
> > >I just installed sarge. The screen is very
> > pixelated.
> > >How can I correct this?
> > >
> > >
> > You need to configure X properly.
> >
> > Try running dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 as
> > root.
> >
> > If that does not solve the problem, please post
> > information about
> >
> > 1) What your graphics card is? You can find out what
> > graphics card you
> > are using by running lspci command.
> >
> > 2) The contents of /etc/X11/XF86Config-4
> >
> > 3) Other useful information - like whether it is a
> > laptop or desktop,
> > which model etc.,
> >
> > raju
> >
> > --
> > Kamaraju S Kusumanchi
> > Graduate Student, MAE
> > Cornell University
> > http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/

Thanks for the response.
I had no luck with dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86

Here is the result of lspci:
:00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 82810E DC-133 GMCH [Graphics
Memory Controller Hub] (rev 03)
:00:01.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corp. 82810E DC-133 CGC
[Chipset Graphics Controller] (rev 03)
:00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82801AA PCI Bridge (rev 02)
:00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82801AA ISA Bridge (LPC) (rev 02)
:00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82801AA IDE (rev 02)
:00:1f.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801AA USB (rev 02)
:00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corp. 82801AA SMBus (rev 02)
:00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801AA AC'97
Audio (rev 02)
:01:00.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corp. 82557/8/9 [Ethernet Pro
100] (rev 02)
:00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 82810E DC-133 GMCH [Graphics
Memory Controller Hub] (rev 03)
:00:01.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corp. 82810E DC-133 CGC
[Chipset Graphics Controller] (rev 03)
:00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82801AA PCI Bridge (rev 02)
:00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82801AA ISA Bridge (LPC) (rev 02)
:00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82801AA IDE (rev 02)
:00:1f.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801AA USB (rev 02)
:00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corp. 82801AA SMBus (rev 02)
:00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801AA AC'97
Audio (rev 02)
:01:00.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corp. 82557/8/9 [Ethernet Pro
100] (rev 02)

Here are the contents of XF86Config-4
# XF86Config-4 (XFree86 X Window System server configuration file)
#
# This file was generated by dexconf, the Debian X Configuration tool, using
# values from the debconf database.
#
# Edit this file with caution, and see the XF86Config-4 manual page.
# (Type "man XF86Config-4" at the shell prompt.)
#
# This file is automatically updated on xserver-xfree86 package upgrades *only*
# if it has not been modified since the last upgrade of the xserver-xfree86
# package.
#
# If you have edited this file but would like it to be automatically updated
# again, run the following commands as root:
#
#   cp /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 /etc/X11/XF86Config-4.custom
#   md5sum /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 > /var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum
#   dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86
Section "Files"
FontPath"unix/:7100"# local font server
# if the local font server has problems, we can fall back on these
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/CID"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi"
EndSection
Section "Module"
Load"GLcore"
Load"bitmap"
Load"dbe"
Load"ddc"
Load"dri"
Load"extmod"
Load"freetype"
Load"glx"
Load"int10"
Load"record"
Load"speedo"
Load"type1"
Load"vbe"
EndSection
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Generic Keyboard"
Driver  "keyboard"
Option  "CoreKeyboard"
Option  "XkbRules"  "xfree86"
Option  "XkbModel"  "pc104"
Option  "XkbLayout" "us"
EndSection
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Configured Mouse"
Driver  "mouse"
Option  "CorePointer"
Option  "Device""/dev/psaux"
Option  "Protocol"  "ImPS/2"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Generic Mouse"
Driver  "mouse"
Option  "SendCoreEvents"

Re: aptitude

[Jules Dubois]

On Friday 22 July 2005 10:47, Edward Dunagin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
(<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:

> i tried to post this before subscribing to the list.

You don't need to subscribe in order to post.

> when i run aptitude update i get a response that tells
> me that 78 files are to be removed. lots of gnome and
> libs. (i use kde) but i see one or two of the listed
> files that are to be removed, as files that i use and
> need.

Start aptitude, find the package you want to keep, and press 'm' (not 'M')
to tell aptitude the package was "manually installed" (i.e., not to be
removed simply because it's "unused").

This will work unless the packages are being removed due to "unsatisfied
dependencies".

> can anyone explain whats going on here?

Aptitude, unless instructed otherwise, will remove "automatically installed"
after all the "manually installed" packages which depend on it are removed.


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Re: For the love of GOD!!!

[Andrew Nelson]

John Hasler wrote:
> Andrew Nelson writes:
> 
>>Although it seems this is far more difficult that it should be to remove
>>all non "." file from the output of ls.  Does any one know of a better
>>way?
> 
> 
> ls -lad .*

I knew I was making things way to tricky.  Thanks much.


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Re: Comments Wanted: Mozilla localstart page

[Roberto C. Sanchez]

On Fri, Jul 22, 2005 at 03:33:33PM -0400, [KS] wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I had tried my CSS skills to redo the mozilla localstart page, and sent
> the new one to the debian mozilla package maintainer for comments. Don't
> know why, but I never got a reply from the maintainer!
> 
> The page is available at http://nvu.atspace.org/localstart.html It does
> not use any images from the web as the current local start page. As the
> page is distributed with mozilla on debian, I thought that it would be
> nice to have the look-and-feel of the debian website on the start page.
> The initial design was done when www.debian.org used images to make
> curves of the links in the red navigation bar. I simulated those using
> the -moz-border-radius mozilla style rule for making curved corners.
> (www.debian.org style sheet was recently changed to use -moz-border-radius).
> 
> Please send in your comments and recommendations and feel free to
> download, save in on your machine and have it as your new localstart page.
> 

Have you tried filing a bug at wishlist or minor priority?  Also attach
a patch that places the new page where the original is.  Make it as easy
as you can for the maintainer and you might find that your suggestion is
more readily accepted.  That said, the maintainer may simply not want to
bother with it.

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Re: postgresql on Sarge

[ke6isf]

On Fri, 22 Jul 2005, Daniel Ramaley wrote:

> How do i install postgresql on Sarge? I did an "aptitude update" then
> ran aptitude and selected postgresql for installation. But aptitude
> refuses to install it, claiming that it is "broken". I don't know how i
> broke it, but now that it is broke, how do i fix it?
>

'apt-get install postgresql' should work; if it doesn't, respond with the
error dump.

-Dennis Carr


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Re: X-windows Problems with firefox install connections???

[Will Ness]

Hello!

I am using the standard 'safe' kernal installation on the woody cds.
No customization invovled. I believe the kernal is 2.2 or 2.4 but I
will get back to you on that. What other modules should I try?

-Will

Re: For the love of GOD!!!

[Michael Marsh]

On 7/22/05, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, 2005-07-22 at 14:42 -0400, Michael Marsh wrote:
> > What's wrong with
> > $ ls -d .*
> > ?
> 
> If, for some weird reason, there are a huge number of dot files,
> it could overflow the "glob expansion buffer"
> 
>   $ dir /data/temp/*
>   bash: /bin/ls: Argument list too long

Which means the best thing might be to fall back on what first came to
mind for me:
$ find . -maxdepth 1 -name '.*' -ls

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Re: Server crashing (revisited)

[strawks]

On ven, 2005-07-22 at 11:09 -0700, Curtis Vaughan wrote:
> Hopefully those people who replied to this issue earlier can respond.
> 
> If you recall I had a problem with a server crashing (read below). I  
> started doing a memtest on the server itself while operating. It has  
> been running now 3 days. The server has not once crashed that whole  
> time. But this morning I stopped the memtest. Zero errors were  
> reported out of some 300+ tests. Then within minutes, it crashed. Now  
> isn't that peculiar?

Just running memtest from the command line while your server is running
is not sufficient to make sure your ram is OK, you should boot memtest
from your bootloder (lilo/grub).

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Re: For the love of GOD!!!

[Bruno Cesar Ribas]

On Fri, Jul 22, 2005 at 02:42:50PM -0400, Michael Marsh wrote:
> On 7/22/05, Bruno Cesar Ribas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Fri, Jul 22, 2005 at 12:01:45PM -0500, Andrew Nelson wrote:
> > > Although it seems this is far more difficult that it should be to remove 
> > > all non
> > > "." file from the output of ls.  Does any one know of a better way?
> > If you want to list only the dot-started files you could do something like:
> > $ls -a1 |grep "^\."
> 
> What's wrong with
> $ ls -d .*
> ?
you're right!!! отличный!!

> 
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> http://www.umiacs.umd.edu/~mmarsh
> http://mamarsh.blogspot.com
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> 

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Re: For the love of GOD!!!

[Ron Johnson]

On Fri, 2005-07-22 at 14:42 -0400, Michael Marsh wrote:
> On 7/22/05, Bruno Cesar Ribas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Fri, Jul 22, 2005 at 12:01:45PM -0500, Andrew Nelson wrote:
> > > Although it seems this is far more difficult that it should be to remove 
> > > all non
> > > "." file from the output of ls.  Does any one know of a better way?
> > If you want to list only the dot-started files you could do something like:
> > $ls -a1 |grep "^\."
> 
> What's wrong with
> $ ls -d .*
> ?

If, for some weird reason, there are a huge number of dot files,
it could overflow the "glob expansion buffer"

  $ dir /data/temp/*
  bash: /bin/ls: Argument list too long

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Comments Wanted: Mozilla localstart page

[[KS]]

Hi all,

I had tried my CSS skills to redo the mozilla localstart page, and sent
the new one to the debian mozilla package maintainer for comments. Don't
know why, but I never got a reply from the maintainer!

The page is available at http://nvu.atspace.org/localstart.html It does
not use any images from the web as the current local start page. As the
page is distributed with mozilla on debian, I thought that it would be
nice to have the look-and-feel of the debian website on the start page.
The initial design was done when www.debian.org used images to make
curves of the links in the red navigation bar. I simulated those using
the -moz-border-radius mozilla style rule for making curved corners.
(www.debian.org style sheet was recently changed to use -moz-border-radius).

Please send in your comments and recommendations and feel free to
download, save in on your machine and have it as your new localstart page.

Thanks,
/KS


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Re: Bizarre ls Behavior

[Derrick Hudson]

On Fri, Jul 22, 2005 at 01:34:06PM -0500, Martin McCormick wrote:
| Hendrik Sattler writes:
| >Guessing: your $PATH contains "." before the "/bin"
| >Bad thing!
| >When in doubt: run /bin/ls instead of ls.
| 
|   Wow!  I've been doing UNIX for around 14 years and am flat
| ashamed of myself.  I have now put . at the end of the path and, of
| course it all works.  I have heard before that putting ones current
| working directory first is bad, but I never quite understood why
| because the examples I had heard were kind of a stretch in many cases
| but this one shines like a light.

Don't include '.' at all.  In the event you really want to run a
binary or script in the current directory use ./ instead of
.

Well, I guess that failed because
1)  you 'cd' to the directory before looking at it
2)  you had '.' (first) in $PATH
3)  ./ls was not executable and/or readable (by you)
(or it is dynamically linked and not usable on the running OS)

If you don't know and trust the contents of '.', be sure 1) not to put
it in $PATH and 2) look at the directory before changing to it.


Another cause for the symptoms you described is if you have execute
permission on the directory but not read permission.  That would allow
'cd' but not 'ls'.

-D

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Re: Server crashing (revisited)

[Mike Applebaum]

Curtis Vaughan wrote:
> Hopefully those people who replied to this issue earlier can respond.
> 
> If you recall I had a problem with a server crashing (read below). I 
> started doing a memtest on the server itself while operating. It has 
> been running now 3 days. The server has not once crashed that whole 
> time. But this morning I stopped the memtest. Zero errors were  reported
> out of some 300+ tests. Then within minutes, it crashed. Now  isn't that
> peculiar?
> 
> Any explanation out there?
> 

I haven't followed this thread closely.  What kind of cpu are you
running?  Could it be overheating.  Are all of your fans operating
properly (cpu/power supply).   Has any hardware been added since the
crashes started?   Any significant O/S upgrades (new kernel)?

Everything look seated properly (disk cables/memory chips/cpus).


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Re: For the love of GOD!!!

[John Hasler]

Andrew Nelson writes:
> Although it seems this is far more difficult that it should be to remove
> all non "." file from the output of ls.  Does any one know of a better
> way?

ls -lad .*
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Re: For the love of GOD!!!

[Michael Marsh]

On 7/22/05, Bruno Cesar Ribas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 22, 2005 at 12:01:45PM -0500, Andrew Nelson wrote:
> > Although it seems this is far more difficult that it should be to remove 
> > all non
> > "." file from the output of ls.  Does any one know of a better way?
> If you want to list only the dot-started files you could do something like:
> $ls -a1 |grep "^\."

What's wrong with
$ ls -d .*
?

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Re: For the love of GOD!!!

[Bruno Cesar Ribas]

On Fri, Jul 22, 2005 at 12:01:45PM -0500, Andrew Nelson wrote:
> 
> I thought the question was to get rid of non "." files all together not simply
> to put "." files and the top and non "." files at the bottom.  My mistake.
> 
> Although it seems this is far more difficult that it should be to remove all 
> non
> "." file from the output of ls.  Does any one know of a better way?
> 
> //andy
> 
If you want to list only the dot-started files you could do something like:
$ls -a1 |grep "^\."

it will "hide" non-dot-started files.

hope it can help

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Re: Bizarre ls Behavior

[Martin McCormick]

Hendrik Sattler writes:
>Guessing: your $PATH contains "." before the "/bin"
>Bad thing!
>When in doubt: run /bin/ls instead of ls.

Wow!  I've been doing UNIX for around 14 years and am flat
ashamed of myself.  I have now put . at the end of the path and, of
course it all works.  I have heard before that putting ones current
working directory first is bad, but I never quite understood why
because the examples I had heard were kind of a stretch in many cases
but this one shines like a light.

As I originally said, these were all FreeBSD executables meant
to be the /bin file system for use in a rescue setting.  I just wanted
to look at them to make sure the image I had down-loaded was the right
one to use on some FreeBSD systems at work.  I just wasn't thinking at
all about the fact that the ls application in that directory would
certainly pipe up and try to run when I called for ls.  Oddly enough,
it silently exits.  Some of the other executables like date dump core
since they weren't designed to work in Linux.

I think that is the first time I have ever been bitten by
putting the current WD first but it is a great lesson.

Thank you even if I am a bit red in the face.

Martin McCormick WB5AGZ  Stillwater, OK 
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Anyone got a Medion 7134 PCMCIA Card working?

[Bruno Boettcher]

Hello!

sorry bothering with this once more, but little by little my laptop
finally gets its parts working! now i am at the part of the PCMCIA
TV-Tuner

from informations on the card and the net i extracted the following:
Medion TV-Tuner 7134 with a saa7134 chipset...

tried:
modprobe saa7134  card=13 tuner=1
but in the /var/log/messages i get only:

Linux video capture interface: v1.00
saa7130/34: v4l2 driver version 0.2.12 loaded
and nothing more
no /dev/video* devices that xawtv or tvtime could use

wha'ts frustrating is that whilst working with e.g. CF-adaptercard, the
PCMCIA system doesn't have any reaction with the insertion of the
TV-card (i tested it under windows, it still works...)

so what am i doing wrong??
i am using a debian unstable and a 2.6.12-1-686 kernel...

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Re: Server crashing (revisited)

[Curtis Vaughan]

Hopefully those people who replied to this issue earlier can respond.

If you recall I had a problem with a server crashing (read below). I  
started doing a memtest on the server itself while operating. It has  
been running now 3 days. The server has not once crashed that whole  
time. But this morning I stopped the memtest. Zero errors were  
reported out of some 300+ tests. Then within minutes, it crashed. Now  
isn't that peculiar?


Any explanation out there?

Curtis


On 19 juil. 05, at 13:54, Curtis Vaughan wrote:



On 19 juil. 05, at 12:35, TreeBoy wrote:



On Tuesday 19 Jul 2005 19:30, Curtis Vaughan wrote:




The only time this happened to me was when I had broken RAM.

Can you afford to run memtest on the machine for a couple of days
in order to
rule it out.

I swapped the RAM into another machine and it eventually failed
memtest on
the third day of testing - but I haven't had another failure since.
(Fingers
crossed.)

Cheers,




Ok I started running memtest, but I'm not sure exactly how to use  
it.

First, I tried memtest 100m --log, but that pretty much stopped the
computer from doing anything else. So, I stopped that test and  
put it

to 50m. But am I doing this right? Oh, by the way I think I have
somewhere around 120 Mb RAM




Hi.

This is why I asked if you could "afford to" do the test.

I was lucky because I had a spare machine and spare RAM: I swapped  
the RAM and
put the "dodgy" RAM into the spare machine. I then used a Knoppix  
boot CD and

booted into a memtest on the spare machine.

This meant that while the test was happening, I was not otherwise  
using the

machine.

Sorry.




Yeh, I think I can do that. But if I just leave it testing 50m  
would it show a problem if one exists? Or do I need to run memtest  
at full 120m? And finally am I issuing the command right? Or is  
there some other parameter(s) I should use?



Curtis

PS. The conversation about types of RAM is not bothering me so if  
it's constructive for others by all means continue.



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Re: For the love of GOD!!!

[Tim Goodaire]

On Fri, Jul 22, 2005 at 12:01:45PM -0500, Andrew Nelson wrote:
> Although it seems this is far more difficult that it should be to remove all 
> non
> "." file from the output of ls.  Does any one know of a better way?

Sure. Don't include the -a switch when you run ls. 

From man ls:

  -a, --all  do not hide entries starting with .

Tim


> 
> //andy
> 
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[2501]

> > # PS: I'm canceling debian-user-ml membership for [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > # PPS: I'm now known as [EMAIL PROTECTED] - cu around...
>
> what??

I'm here... everything's all right...

Just had to move this ml from business to private...
so how's it going?
did the verbose verbose verbose example clear things up or have I - against my 
intention - sent your mind to chaos?

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Re: For the love of GOD!!!

[Andrew Nelson]

Bob Proulx wrote:
> Andrew Nelson wrote:
> 
>>Andrew Nelson wrote
>>
>>>I have no idea what the cause might be but I guess you could do something 
>>>like
>>>
>>>ls -la | awk '$9 ~ /^\./ {print}'
>>>
>>>Although you would then loose colors.
>>
>>You could also do something along these lines.
>>
>>ls -lda `ls -a1 | awk '/^\./ {print}'`
> 
> 
> Setting your collating sequence explicitly is better.
> 
>   export LC_COLLATE=C
> 

I thought the question was to get rid of non "." files all together not simply
to put "." files and the top and non "." files at the bottom.  My mistake.

Although it seems this is far more difficult that it should be to remove all non
"." file from the output of ls.  Does any one know of a better way?

//andy


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X server security defaults.

[gg . 1 . ethanr]

I am running Debian Sarge on a simple single-user desktop system.  My X
display is started by kdm.  By default, Debian configures the  X server
to allow connections only by the user logged into the machine through
kdm.  If I want to start an X client by another user (e.g. start vim-gtk
as su'd root) I have to first type "xhost +local" as the logged-in user,
or transfer xauth tokens to the unprivileged user.  It doesn't seem like
this is something I should have to do all the time.  Since my X server
is configured not to listen for TCP connections and since I am the only
user on the machine, "xhost +local" seems to be a reasonable default. 
Does anyone disagree?  How can I make "xhost +local" the default
configuration?

Thanks in advance for your input.

--Ethan


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Re: A little something quirky....

[Alex Malinovich]

On Thu, 2005-07-21 at 12:59 -0700, ke6isf wrote:
> I just realized that every time I do an apt-get update - and I mean EVERY
> time - the repository over on purdue.edu always gets the Packages and
> Release data files.  Most recent test was today, and I did two updates in
> less than five minutes.  (I had added contrib and non-free to a handful of
> mirrors in the file.)
> 
> Is this a bug, or a feature?

Not sure exactly what you mean here. If you mean that every time you do
an apt-get update it contacts purdue.edu to check for the Packages and
Release files, then this is correct (assuming that purdue.edu is the
mirror you have set up in /etc/apt/sources.list).

If you mean something else then I'm not sure what you mean. If that is
the case post the output you're getting and then point out what part
you're asking about.

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Re: APACHE and problem made me crazy

[Ryan Schultz]

On Friday 22 July 2005 10:47 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I try to running OpManager which use the famous APACHE server. The Apache
> Server is preconfigured by the editor of OpManager.
> When i try to start APACHE, nothing run. It seems apache don't run
> (because when i stop it, it say me that is not running!) And worse,
> nothing error!!
> But in the apache LOGs, there is a error :
>UNABLE TO CREATE SCOREBOARD (anonymous shared memory failure).
>
> i know nothing about apache!
>
>  so thank you for any help.
> please help me, it make's me crazy!

Check in the apache configuration file (/etc/apache/httpd.conf) for a line 
that says:

ScoreBoardFile /var/run/apache.scoreboard

If there isn't one, add it. That should fix your problem (according to 
Google).

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Re: Suspicious activity on the wire

[Sergio Basurto Juarez]

--- Rod Waldren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Is there a package available will easily (for a
> beginner/novice) identify 
> virus, trojan and D-O-S activity on a network?  I'm
> thinking along the 
> packet capture line such as TCPdump with prebuilt
> filters for common 
> threats.
> 
> Any advice would be appreciated.  Unfortunately, I
> don't have time to 
> experiment and learn how to track it down right
> since this system is in use 
> 24x7, except for when the entire system dumps each
> night (always within the 
> same ~2 hour window).
> 
> Here the situation...I have three subnets with 24
> workstations each.  Each 
> subnet has a server to provide a lookup DB to the
> workstations in that 
> subnet.  The subnets are switched and also
> physically connected for 
> flexibility and administration.  This is private LAN
> that is that is 
> serially connected to 9 other remote private LAN's. 
> Each night a subnet 
> will start having lookup timeouts that quickly
> worsen and spread to effect 
> the other subnets.  Broadcast traffic goes through
> the roof according to 
> netstat and the switches but without an analyzer the
> source can't quickly be 
> identified.  Rebooting the systems fixes it but
> leaves no time to 
> troubleshoot.  So I hope to be able to watch the
> wire from a box to track 
> this down. 
In deed tcpdump is a very good option, when I have
problems of the kind I use tcpdump, ettercap(have a
lot of options) and snort. Also try iptraf for
simplicity of use.

Hope this help

Regards.


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Re: copy-ing an image.iso from a dvd: how to?

[steef]

Wu-Kung Sun wrote:


On 7/22/05, steef <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 


hello list,

what   program do i need to make an exact copy/back-up on
my hd , under etch, of an image.iso_file on a dvd for the Xbox of my
youngest son?

i tried dvdrip, backupdvd but could not get an image-copy from the dvd
'segmentation-fault'.
(my son told me his Xbox-dvd's seem all to be image-files)
   



1. I have no idea what etch is
2. it seems you're saying the dvd already has an iso image file on it
which seems silly to me so I'll assume I'm reading it wrong

I'd do it one of two ways I can think of:
time mkisofs -o image.iso -R -J /media/cdrom
time dd if=/dev/dvd of=image.iso


 


thsnks for your answer.

'etch' is debian-testing

and,

yes: a image-file already on a dvd seems silly but is not unusual in the 
microsoft Xbox world. mkisofs and cdrecord i use regularly (the last on 
2.4.x kernels). the same for growisofs for dvd's.
my only problem now is to get growisofs or another commandline-working 
package burning a dvd from an existing image.iso. i had some trouble 
with growisofs' option <-compat-dvd> or something like that: (see: man 
growisofs)


i like especially the traditional linux way of working with the 
commandline. i know (of course) that with k3b and possibly the somewhat 
older xcdroast it is easy to burn a copy on the fly from a Xbox_dvd with 
a 3,5 GB_image_file on it.


thank you again,

kind regsrds,

steef


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Re: verbose³ example

[michael]

On Fri, 2005-07-22 at 15:50 +0200, Marco Weber wrote:
> # we have two users, marla and tyler:
> /etc/passwd
> marla:x:1006:1006:Marla Singer,,,:/home/marla:/bin/bash
> tyler:x:1007:1007:Tyler Durden,,,:/home/tyler:/bin/bash
> 
> # they're default group is coresponding to their username, furthermore they
> # are both member of the group slide
> /etc/group
> slide:x:183:marla,tyler
> marla:x:1006:
> tyler:x:1007:
> 
> # and here we go...
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/ # mkdir folder
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/ # ls -lah | grep folder
> drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4.0K Jul 22 12:41 folder
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/ # chgrp slide folder
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/ # chmod -R 0774 folder
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/ # cd folder
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/folder # touch still.default.umask.022
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/folder # ls -lah
> total 8.0K
> drwxrwxr--   2 root slide 4.0K Jul 22 12:45 .
> drwxr-xr-x  25 root root  4.0K Jul 22 12:41 ..
> -rw-r--r--   1 root root 0 Jul 22 12:45 still.default.umask.022
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/folder # umask 002
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/folder # touch now.umask.002
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/folder # ls -lah
> total 8.0K
> drwxrwxr--   2 root slide 4.0K Jul 22 12:46 .
> drwxr-xr-x  25 root root  4.0K Jul 22 12:41 ..
> -rw-rw-r--   1 root root 0 Jul 22 12:46 now.umask.002
> -rw-r--r--   1 root root 0 Jul 22 12:45 still.default.umask.022
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/folder # su marla
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/folder$ id
> uid=1006(marla) gid=1006(marla) groups=183(slide),1006(marla)
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/folder$ mkdir ballcancer
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/folder$ ls -lah
> total 12K
> drwxrwxr--   3 root  slide 4.0K Jul 22 12:47 .
> drwxr-xr-x  25 root  root  4.0K Jul 22 12:41 ..
> drwxrwxr-x   2 marla marla 4.0K Jul 22 12:47 ballcancer
> -rw-rw-r--   1 root  root 0 Jul 22 12:46 now.umask.002
> -rw-r--r--   1 root  root 0 Jul 22 12:45 still.default.umask.022
> 
> # bingo!
> # [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/ # chmod -R 6774 folder
> # would have set the folder sticky
> # then the just created directory ballcancer would look like this:
> # drwsrwsr-x   2 marla slide 4.0K Jul 22 12:47 ballcancer
> # -and thus would be writable by tyler, but:
> # drwxrwxr-x   2 marla marla 4.0K Jul 22 12:47 ballcancer
> # is just the premission/group setting you're looking for...
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/folder$ echo "you're a monster" >> ballcancer/textfile
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/folder$ exit
> exit
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/folder # su tyler
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/folder$ id
> uid=1007(tyler) gid=1007(tyler) groups=183(slide),1007(tyler)
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/folder$ cd ballcancer/
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/folder/ballcancer$ cat textfile
> you're a monster
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/folder/ballcancer$ echo "ymmaavstiml" >> cognition
> bash: cognition: Permission denied
> 
> # (I gues) this is it...
> 
> # Hope I've conjured a smile on your face ;)
> 
> # Marco Weber
> 
> # PS: I'm canceling debian-user-ml membership for [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> # PPS: I'm now known as [EMAIL PROTECTED] - cu around...
> 

what??


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Suspicious activity on the wire

[Rod Waldren]

Is there a package available will easily (for a beginner/novice) identify 
virus, trojan and D-O-S activity on a network?  I'm thinking along the 
packet capture line such as TCPdump with prebuilt filters for common 
threats.


Any advice would be appreciated.  Unfortunately, I don't have time to 
experiment and learn how to track it down right since this system is in use 
24x7, except for when the entire system dumps each night (always within the 
same ~2 hour window).


Here the situation...I have three subnets with 24 workstations each.  Each 
subnet has a server to provide a lookup DB to the workstations in that 
subnet.  The subnets are switched and also physically connected for 
flexibility and administration.  This is private LAN that is that is 
serially connected to 9 other remote private LAN's.  Each night a subnet 
will start having lookup timeouts that quickly worsen and spread to effect 
the other subnets.  Broadcast traffic goes through the roof according to 
netstat and the switches but without an analyzer the source can't quickly be 
identified.  Rebooting the systems fixes it but leaves no time to 
troubleshoot.  So I hope to be able to watch the wire from a box to track 
this down. 




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aptitude

[Edward Dunagin]

i tried to post this before subscribing to the list.
so if this is a duplicate..sorry.

when i run aptitude update i get a response that tells
me that 78 files are to be removed. lots of gnome and
libs. (i use kde) but i see one or two of the listed
files that are to be removed, as files that i use and
need.

can anyone explain whats going on here?

Peaceed

Edward M Dunagin
514 Sanders Ave
Bozeman, MT 59718
406.555-7282
Skype-phone +1 406 662 0179




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verbose³ example

[Marco Weber]

# we have two users, marla and tyler:
/etc/passwd
marla:x:1006:1006:Marla Singer,,,:/home/marla:/bin/bash
tyler:x:1007:1007:Tyler Durden,,,:/home/tyler:/bin/bash

# they're default group is coresponding to their username, furthermore they
# are both member of the group slide
/etc/group
slide:x:183:marla,tyler
marla:x:1006:
tyler:x:1007:

# and here we go...

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/ # mkdir folder
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/ # ls -lah | grep folder
drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4.0K Jul 22 12:41 folder
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/ # chgrp slide folder
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/ # chmod -R 0774 folder
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/ # cd folder
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/folder # touch still.default.umask.022
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/folder # ls -lah
total 8.0K
drwxrwxr--   2 root slide 4.0K Jul 22 12:45 .
drwxr-xr-x  25 root root  4.0K Jul 22 12:41 ..
-rw-r--r--   1 root root 0 Jul 22 12:45 still.default.umask.022
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/folder # umask 002
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/folder # touch now.umask.002
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/folder # ls -lah
total 8.0K
drwxrwxr--   2 root slide 4.0K Jul 22 12:46 .
drwxr-xr-x  25 root root  4.0K Jul 22 12:41 ..
-rw-rw-r--   1 root root 0 Jul 22 12:46 now.umask.002
-rw-r--r--   1 root root 0 Jul 22 12:45 still.default.umask.022
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/folder # su marla
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/folder$ id
uid=1006(marla) gid=1006(marla) groups=183(slide),1006(marla)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/folder$ mkdir ballcancer
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/folder$ ls -lah
total 12K
drwxrwxr--   3 root  slide 4.0K Jul 22 12:47 .
drwxr-xr-x  25 root  root  4.0K Jul 22 12:41 ..
drwxrwxr-x   2 marla marla 4.0K Jul 22 12:47 ballcancer
-rw-rw-r--   1 root  root 0 Jul 22 12:46 now.umask.002
-rw-r--r--   1 root  root 0 Jul 22 12:45 still.default.umask.022

# bingo!
# [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/ # chmod -R 6774 folder
# would have set the folder sticky
# then the just created directory ballcancer would look like this:
# drwsrwsr-x   2 marla slide 4.0K Jul 22 12:47 ballcancer
# -and thus would be writable by tyler, but:
# drwxrwxr-x   2 marla marla 4.0K Jul 22 12:47 ballcancer
# is just the premission/group setting you're looking for...

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/folder$ echo "you're a monster" >> ballcancer/textfile
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/folder$ exit
exit
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/folder # su tyler
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/folder$ id
uid=1007(tyler) gid=1007(tyler) groups=183(slide),1007(tyler)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/folder$ cd ballcancer/
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/folder/ballcancer$ cat textfile
you're a monster
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/folder/ballcancer$ echo "ymmaavstiml" >> cognition
bash: cognition: Permission denied

# (I gues) this is it...

# Hope I've conjured a smile on your face ;)

# Marco Weber

# PS: I'm canceling debian-user-ml membership for [EMAIL PROTECTED]
# PPS: I'm now known as [EMAIL PROTECTED] - cu around...


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postgresql on Sarge

[Daniel Ramaley]

How do i install postgresql on Sarge? I did an "aptitude update" then 
ran aptitude and selected postgresql for installation. But aptitude 
refuses to install it, claiming that it is "broken". I don't know how i 
broke it, but now that it is broke, how do i fix it?


Dan Ramaley
Digital Media Library Specialist
(515) 271-1934
Cowles Library 140, Drake University


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DBM versions and pam_userdb.so PAM module

[Tom]

Hello all!!


I have to authenticate using pam_userdb.so but it cant open (or find 
or recognize) the dbm file(s). (Debian woody).

cat /etc/pam.d/pop ...
authsufficient  pam_userdb.so db=/etc/mailsystem/users debug

grep /var/log/auth.log ...
...pam_userdb[665]: Verify user `tom' with password `'
...pam_userdb[665]: user_lookup: could not open database 
`/etc/mailsystem/users'

I tried old version of dbm file format (.dir/.pag, made with 'tie()') 
and also the new one (made with 'dbmopen()'). For the new one, I 
tried to use filenames such 'users' and 'users.db'. All times I get 
the error: user_lookup: could not open database 
`/etc/mailsystem/users'.

Some hint?



Thanx
Tom


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Re: find running as nobody? security problem?

[Wu-Kung Sun]

On 7/22/05, Daniel McBrearty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> working on my box this morning I noticed some drive activity that
> didn't seem to be connected to what I was doing.
> 
> I did a top and saw find running as user nobody. It carried on for a
> few more seconds and then the system was quiet.
> 

Sounds like updatedb was running as a cron job.  Check /etc/crontab
and see if the time matches.

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converting .ged to html etc

[john gennard]

Is there a Debian program which will allow me to
convert a .ged file to html (or pdf) and print
the out put?

Does anyone know how to do this simply, please?

Thanks, John.


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Re: copy-ing an image.iso from a dvd: how to?

[Wu-Kung Sun]

On 7/22/05, steef <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> hello list,
> 
> what   program do i need to make an exact copy/back-up on
> my hd , under etch, of an image.iso_file on a dvd for the Xbox of my
> youngest son?
> 
> i tried dvdrip, backupdvd but could not get an image-copy from the dvd
> 'segmentation-fault'.
> (my son told me his Xbox-dvd's seem all to be image-files)

1. I have no idea what etch is
2. it seems you're saying the dvd already has an iso image file on it
which seems silly to me so I'll assume I'm reading it wrong

I'd do it one of two ways I can think of:
time mkisofs -o image.iso -R -J /media/cdrom
time dd if=/dev/dvd of=image.iso


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Re: exim4 -> local mailboxes

[Csanyi Pal]

Dear Wayne!

On Thu, Jul 21, 2005 at 10:34:19AM -0400, Wayne Topa wrote:
> Csanyi Pal([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said:
> > 
> > Up to now exim4 forward the mails in to /var/mail/fetchmail mailbox. I 
> > use Mutt to read these mails, and then save them to appropriate 
> > ~Mail/mailbox.
> > 
> > My question is: how to configure exim4 to forward mails to procmail?
> > I will appreciate any suggestion! Thanks!
> > 
> 
> See /etc/exim4/exim4.conf.template   procmail_pipe:

Now I did these:
* edit /etc/exim4/update-exim4.conf.conf :
and add the line
dc_localdelivery='procmail_pipe'
* restart exim4 :
invoke-rc.d exim4 restart
* view the /var/log/exim4/mainlog (These are lines for one mail only):
[127.0.0.1] U=fetchmail P=esmtp S=8724 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
fetchmail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> R=local_user T=procmail_pipe
Completed

It is not quit clear to me this message abowe. It seems to me that 
exim4 get the mail from fetchmail and process it forward to esmtp, 
isn't it? But I don't understand the line "fetchmail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
R=local_user T=procmail_pipe". Can you explain to me that, that what for 
stand fetchmail on the front of the line?

And why I still get the mails in /var/mail/fetchmail box, instead in the 
~/Mail/mbox -es? Thanks!

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APACHE and problem made me crazy

[nicolas.kosmalski]

Hello,

I try to running OpManager which use the famous APACHE server. The Apache
Server is preconfigured by the editor of OpManager.
When i try to start APACHE, nothing run. It seems apache don't run
(because when i stop it, it say me that is not running!) And worse,
nothing error!!
But in the apache LOGs, there is a error :
   UNABLE TO CREATE SCOREBOARD (anonymous shared memory failure).

i know nothing about apache!

 so thank you for any help.
please help me, it make's me crazy!

Re: last -t lists all entries in wtmp

[michael]

On Fri, 2005-07-22 at 13:03 +, J.A. de Vries wrote:
> On 2005-07-22 @ 00:13:38 (week 29) michael wrote:
> 
> > I think it's a question of interpretation of the man pages. To me it
> > seems that '-x' *also* gives the runlevel info; and that '-t' gives all
> > entries *up to* a date (as opposed to since or on that date)
> 
> Here's the two relevant excerpts from the manpage:
> 
> -t MMDDHHMMSS
>Display the state of logins as of the specified time.
>This is useful, e.g., to determine easily who was logged
>in at a  particular time -- specify that time with -t and
>look for "still logged in".
> 
> -x Display the system shutdown entries and run level changes.
> 
> I am sorry, I am not a native speaker like yourself (judging from your
> email address). To me "as of" meant logins starting from the given time
> and later. 


To me it means, upon re-reading, that it is doing a 'last' as of the
MMDDHHMMSS ie if you had done last at time T then 'last -t T' (at
some later date) gives you the same info.


> As for -x returning changes in runlevel as well you are right. I just
> did a diff between two runs (on with and one without -x) and indeed both
> show shutdown entries, but using -x gives lines like "runlevel (to lvl
> 2)   2.6.8-2-386  Sun Jul 17 11:58 - 14:49 (5+02:51)" as well.
> 
> Thanks for making me see. I learn every day... `;-)
> 

So I think the 'man' page is indeed correct, although maybe not as clear
as it could be

M


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Re: anacron can't run hourly?

[Dave Ewart]

On Friday, 22.07.2005 at 04:06 -0700, Jose Cedeno wrote:

> On 7/21/05, Pascal Hakim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > On Wed, Jul 20, 2005 at 12:38:57PM +0800, phyrster wrote:
> > > Hi Debianers,
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > >
> > > Can anacron run hourly jobs?
> > 
> > Nope. The smallest timespan that anacron can schedule jobs for is a day.
> > 
> > > My /etc/anacrontab reads like this:
> > >
> > > =
> > > 1 5 cron.daily nice run-parts --report /etc/cron.daily
> > > 7 10 cron.weekly nice run-parts --report /etc/cron.weekly
> > > @monthly 15 cron.monthly nice run-parts --report
> > > /etc/cron.monthly
> > > 
> > >
> > > I want to schedule mail fetching and sending for every few minutes, but 
> > > from
> > > the information I got so far, it seems anacron can't handle hourly jobs.
> > 
> > You should be using cron for this. The real advantage of anacron comes in
> > when you want to make sure things like cron.daily run at least once a
> > day, when your computer is not always on.
> > 
> > Adding support for anacron to have hourly granularity would be possible,
> > but I can't really think of a situation where this would be desirable
> > (but feel free to file a wishlist bug against anacron if you can come up
> > with a situation where it would be useful to have such a feature!)
> 
> What about using a script that does what you want, goes to sleep for 1 hour 
> and then calls itself.

As mentioned above, you should use cron for scheduled jobs with a
frequency of more than daily.  However, given that you want to 'fetch
and send mail' periodically, it may be that you can what you ask using
the mail programs themselves.  For example, fetchmail can run in daemon
mode where it will look for new mail every N seconds (when started as
'fetchmail -d N'); also, many MTAs can be fairly easily configured to
run at intervals too.

Dave.

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Emacs21 install problem [upgrading from woody to sarge]

[fbrian]

Hello:

TIA, while upgrading from woody to sarge emacs would not properly install.
Error info

Setting up emacs21 (21.4a-1) ...
emacs-install emacs21
install/auctex: Setting up for emacs21... emacs-install:
/usr/lib/emacsen-common/packages/install/auctex emacs21 failed at
/usr/lib/emacsen-common/emacs-install line 28,  line 4.
dpkg: error processing emacs21 (--configure):
 subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of auctex:
 auctex depends on emacs21 | emacs-snapshot; however:
  Package emacs21 is not configured yet.
  Package emacs-snapshot is not installed.
dpkg: error processing auctex (--configure):
 dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of emacs-goodies-el:
 emacs-goodies-el depends on emacs21 | emacsen; however:
  Package emacs21 is not configured yet.
  Package emacsen is not installed.
  Package emacs21 which provides emacsen is not configured yet.
dpkg: error processing emacs-goodies-el (--configure):
 dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
Errors were encountered while processing:
 emacs21
 auctex
 emacs-goodies-el
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)

Emacs & related packages

EULER:~# dpkg -l | grep emacs21
iF  emacs2121.4a-1The GNU Emacs editor
ii  emacs21-bin-co 21.4a-1The GNU Emacs editor's shared, architecture
ii  emacs21-common 21.4a-1The GNU Emacs editor's shared, architecture
ii  emacs21-el 21.4a-1GNU Emacs LISP (.el) files

iU  auctex 11.55-1An integrated environment for writing
TeX/La


Kernel
ii  kernel-image-2 2.4.18-13.1Linux kernel image 2.4.18 on
PPro/Celeron/PI


Thanks

Brian


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Re: Debian on a handheld device.

[Josh Battles]

Redefined Horizons said:
> I would like to port Debian to a handheld computer that doesn't
> currently support Linux, but that does support WindowsCE.
>
> Any idea where I might be able to find information on how to do this?
>
> Scott Huey

http://tuxmobil.org/debian_linux_pda.html

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Debian on a handheld device.

[Redefined Horizons]

I would like to port Debian to a handheld computer that doesn't
currently support Linux, but that does support WindowsCE.

Any idea where I might be able to find information on how to do this?

Scott Huey

unable to boot new kernel

[Michael Martinell]

I upgraded my woody install to use grub using (I had been using lilo)
apt-get install grub
grub0install /dev/hda
update-grub

I then rebooted and everything was good, I am using grub and all is well. 
I then decided to upgrade the kernel from 2.2.20 to 2.6.12.3 with CIFS
support.  This worked fine, however when I went to dpkg the new kernel it
activiated the lilo script and not the grub.  I do run update-grub.  When
I reboot I am unable to boot the new kernel due to a message that it
cannot find the \boot file system.  Of course the 2.2.20 kernel boots
fine.  How can I completely get rid of lilo so that grub is properly set
up?

Here are some excerpts from my menu.lst: (I tried both with and without
the initrd)

title   Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.6.12.3.qmail
root(hd0,0)
kernel  /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12.3.qmail root=/dev/hda1 ro
initrd  /boot/initrd.img-2.6.12.3.qmail
savedefault
boot

title   Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.2.20-idepci
root(hd0,0)
kernel  /boot/vmlinuz-2.2.20-idepci root=/dev/hda1 ro
savedefault
boot

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Re: last -t lists all entries in wtmp

[J.A. de Vries]

On 2005-07-22 @ 00:13:38 (week 29) michael wrote:

> I think it's a question of interpretation of the man pages. To me it
> seems that '-x' *also* gives the runlevel info; and that '-t' gives all
> entries *up to* a date (as opposed to since or on that date)

Here's the two relevant excerpts from the manpage:

-t MMDDHHMMSS
   Display the state of logins as of the specified time.
   This is useful, e.g., to determine easily who was logged
   in at a  particular time -- specify that time with -t and
   look for "still logged in".

-x Display the system shutdown entries and run level changes.

I am sorry, I am not a native speaker like yourself (judging from your
email address). To me "as of" meant logins starting from the given time
and later. It seems here it meant logins from the given time and older.

As for -x returning changes in runlevel as well you are right. I just
did a diff between two runs (on with and one without -x) and indeed both
show shutdown entries, but using -x gives lines like "runlevel (to lvl
2)   2.6.8-2-386  Sun Jul 17 11:58 - 14:49 (5+02:51)" as well.

Thanks for making me see. I learn every day... `;-)

Grx HdV


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Re: locale & Sid (Re: For the love of GOD!!!)

[John Hasler]

Bob writes:
> Can you double check that?  Because they shouldn't be doing that and they
> don't for me.

I tried 'export LC_COLLATE="POSIX" && ls -la' a little while ago and got 
dictionary
order.  However, I just tried it again and got ASCII order.  I screwed it
up somehow, but I don't know how.
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Re: anacron can't run hourly?

[Jose Cedeno]

On 7/21/05, Pascal Hakim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Wed, Jul 20, 2005 at 12:38:57PM +0800, phyrster wrote:> Hi Debianers,Hi,>> Can anacron run hourly jobs?Nope. The smallest timespan that anacron can schedule jobs for is a day.
> My /etc/anacrontab reads like this:>> =>
1  
5  
cron.daily   nice run-parts --report
/etc/cron.daily> 7  
10  cron.weekly  nice
run-parts --report /etc/cron.weekly>
@monthly15  cron.monthly
nice run-parts --report> /etc/cron.monthly> >> I want to schedule mail fetching and sending for every few minutes, but from> the information I got so far, it seems anacron can't handle hourly jobs.
You should be using cron for this. The real advantage of anacron comes inwhen you want to make sure things like cron.daily run at least once aday, when your computer is not always on.Adding support for anacron to have hourly granularity would be possible,
but I can't really think of a situation where this would be desirable(but feel free to file a wishlist bug against anacron if you can come upwith a situation where it would be useful to have such a feature!)
Cheers,Pasc--Pascal
Hakim  
0403 411 672Do Not Bend

What about using a script that does what you want, goes to sleep for 1 hour and then calls itself.

Jose

 
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Re: For the love of GOD!!!

[John Hasler]

Bob writes:
> Select None and no locale setting will be placed /etc/environment and
> that will make C/POSIX the default for your system.

Note that the POSIX locale uses dictionary order.

> ...set LC_COLLATE=C...

Yes.
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Re: information about the commercial use

[John Hasler]

Paolo Della Rocca writes:
> can i use Debian for my job? 

You may use anything in Debian/main for your job.

> may I to pay attention to some particular informations or parts of
> contract?

There is no contract.  If you redistribute any of the packages you must
comply with the package licenses.

See .
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Re: Bizarre ls Behavior

[Ron Johnson]

On Fri, 2005-07-22 at 03:24 -0700, Steve Lamb wrote:
> Ron Johnson wrote:
> > Whaddaya mean "a while back"?  It's still in Sid...
> 
> Erm, based on me not being able to find it with "locate".  I figured it
> had been subsumed into the shells like some other former external commands.  
> :D

Since [ has meaning to re, you gotta be sneaky:

  $ locate bin | grep "\["
  /usr/bin/[

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Unrequested automatic priting jobs problem

[Micha Feigin]

I get the occational printing job sent out from my computer when I didn't
request it. Just now (cups did go through an upgrade so it may be a problem
with the packages post install scripts or something) I suddenly had about 15
printing jobs sent to my printer.

I managed to kill them before they printed and a quick ps aux brought up the
following output (I'm afraid the end of the line is clipped and I didn't manage
to catch a another one without clipping)

lp   11095  0.0  2.1   8972  5588 ?S14:15   0:00 /usr/bin/perl 
/usr/lib/cups/filter/foomatic-rip 214 micha (st 
root 11096  0.0  0.7   7060 1960 ?S14:15   0:00 
smb://meravi/hp959c 214 micha _stdin_ 1 Resolution=default Du 
lp   11098  0.0  2.1   8972  5584 ?S14:15   0:00 /usr/bin/perl 
/usr/lib/cups/filter/foomatic-rip 214 micha (st 
lp   11099  0.0  2.1   8972  5588 ?S14:15   0:00 /usr/bin/perl 
/usr/lib/cups/filter/foomatic-rip 214 micha (st 
lp   11100  0.0  0.5   4312  1356 ?S14:15   0:00 sh -c gs 
'-dBATCH' '-dPARANOIDSAFER' '-dQUIET' '-dNOPAUSE' '- 
lp   11101  0.0  1.6  16740  4360 ?R14:15   0:00 gs -dBATCH 
-dPARANOIDSAFER -dQUIET -dNOPAUSE -sDEVICE=ijs -sI

any idea what can be causing this?
 
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[Fwd: copy-ing an image.iso from a dvd: how to?]

[steef]

..forget this question of mine. put on the list too early. solved it 
easily myself.


i apologize!

steef

 Original Message 
Subject:copy-ing an image.iso from a dvd: how to?
Resent-Date:Fri, 22 Jul 2005 03:09:43 -0500 (CDT)
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Date:   Fri, 22 Jul 2005 10:09:26 +0200
From:   steef <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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To: debian 



hello list,

what   program do i need to make an exact copy/back-up on 
my hd , under etch, of an image.iso_file on a dvd for the Xbox of my 
youngest son?


i tried dvdrip, backupdvd but could not get an image-copy from the dvd 
'segmentation-fault'.

(my son told me his Xbox-dvd's seem all to be image-files)

thanx

also on behalf of my youngest,

steef


drs. s. van duin
histricus, wiskundig econoom


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Re: locale & Sid (Re: For the love of GOD!!!)

[Ron Johnson]

On Fri, 2005-07-22 at 03:27 -0600, Bob Proulx wrote:
> Ron Johnson wrote:
> > POSIX also mixes dot files.
> 
> Can you double check that?  Because they shouldn't be doing that and
> they don't for me.
> 
> > And, somehow, sometime in the past couple of months, I think Sid
> > changed my locale from C to POSIX.
> 
> POSIX is an synonym for C.  Both are the same.
> 
> Probably in the last couple of months you ended up with a different
> locale entirely.  What locale settings are you using?
> 
>   locale

It had been set to en_us.

In a different post, you wrote of "dpkg-reconfigure locales",
and now I'm back to C/POSIX, like $DEITY intended.

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Re: After ldconfig runs, libc.so.6 is no longer available

[Andreas Oesterhelt]

Hi again,

> After that, all programs linked against libc.so.6 failed with the same
> message.
> 
> As a temporary fix, I can do "ldconfig -l /lib/libc-2.3.2.so", but
> if I later run ldconfig in non-library mode, i.e. just call "ldconfig",
> the problem re-appears.
> 
> My /etc/ld.so.conf is unsuspicious:
> 
>   /usr/X11R6/lib
>   /usr/local/lib

Problem solved: I had the mono libraries installed in /usr/local/lib
and apparently they were the source of the problem. After removing
them and re-running ldconfig, my box is happy again.

I'd still be very interested in how an additional set of libraries that
doesn't include libc itself can interfere with ldconfig, preventing it
from finding the correct libc.so.6 to use.

Regards,
--Andreas


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verbose^2 example

[Marco Weber]

# we have two users, marla and tyler:
/etc/passwd
marla:x:1006:1006:Marla Singer,,,:/home/marla:/bin/bash
tyler:x:1007:1007:Tyler Durden,,,:/home/tyler:/bin/bash

# they're default group is coresponding to their username, furthermore they
# are both member of the group slide
/etc/group
slide:x:183:marla,tyler
marla:x:1006:
tyler:x:1007:

# and here we go...

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/ # mkdir folder
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/ # ls -lah | grep folder
drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4.0K Jul 22 12:41 folder
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/ # chgrp slide folder
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/ # chmod -R 0774 folder
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/ # cd folder
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/folder # touch still.default.umask.022
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/folder # ls -lah
total 8.0K
drwxrwxr--   2 root slide 4.0K Jul 22 12:45 .
drwxr-xr-x  25 root root  4.0K Jul 22 12:41 ..
-rw-r--r--   1 root root 0 Jul 22 12:45 still.default.umask.022
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/folder # umask 002
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/folder # touch now.umask.002
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/folder # ls -lah
total 8.0K
drwxrwxr--   2 root slide 4.0K Jul 22 12:46 .
drwxr-xr-x  25 root root  4.0K Jul 22 12:41 ..
-rw-rw-r--   1 root root 0 Jul 22 12:46 now.umask.002
-rw-r--r--   1 root root 0 Jul 22 12:45 still.default.umask.022
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/folder # su marla
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/folder$ id
uid=1006(marla) gid=1006(marla) groups=183(slide),1006(marla)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/folder$ mkdir ballcancer
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/folder$ ls -lah
total 12K
drwxrwxr--   3 root  slide 4.0K Jul 22 12:47 .
drwxr-xr-x  25 root  root  4.0K Jul 22 12:41 ..
drwxrwxr-x   2 marla marla 4.0K Jul 22 12:47 ballcancer
-rw-rw-r--   1 root  root 0 Jul 22 12:46 now.umask.002
-rw-r--r--   1 root  root 0 Jul 22 12:45 still.default.umask.022

# bingo!
# [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/ # chmod -R 6774 folder
# would have set the folder sticky
# then the just created directory ballcancer would look like this:
# drwsrwsr-x   2 marla marla 4.0K Jul 22 12:47 ballcancer
# so
# drwxrwxr-x   2 marla marla 4.0K Jul 22 12:47 ballcancer
# is just the premission/group setting you're looking for...

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/folder$ echo "you're a monster" >> ballcancer/textfile
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/folder$ exit
exit
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/folder # su tyler
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/folder$ id
uid=1007(tyler) gid=1007(tyler) groups=183(slide),1007(tyler)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/folder$ cd ballcancer/
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/folder/ballcancer$ cat textfile
you're a monster
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/folder/ballcancer$ echo "ymmaavstiml" >> cognition
bash: cognition: Permission denied

# (I gues) this is it...

# Hope I've conjured a smile on your face ;)

# Marco Weber

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# and resignon with [EMAIL PROTECTED] - cu around...


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Re: comments about hardware

[michael]

On Fri, 2005-07-22 at 11:24 +0200, strawks wrote:
> On jeu, 2005-07-21 at 21:50 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > It's almost the same, from what I've read.
> 
> Here you can see the differences :
> http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=13344
> http://reviews.zdnet.co.uk/hardware/processorsmemory/0,39024015,39193811,00.htm


cheers for those refs (although the former does seem to get a bit
muddled when discussing 'main memory')


> 
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Re: Ask software tools in linux serve for windows

[Ms Linuz]

Trace Green wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I want to know are there any tools do the service in Linux for Windows.
>
> Sorry for my poor english.
>
> 1. I want to scan virus for my windows partitions in Linux, you know,
> windows may get viurs easily. Are there any tools in Linux to do this
> work?

Try clamav and samba ( mount windows network drive with samba then do
virus scanning )

> 2. Does anybody have any idea about how Linux can do service for
> Windows? Such as when my windows crash, I may try to use Ubuntu liveCD
> to recover my windows system.
>
> Thanks very much for any ideas!!
>
>



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Re: debian sarge install on new dell PE 1850 and 2850

[Johann Spies]

On Fri, Jul 22, 2005 at 07:02:07AM +0200, Mathias Chauvin wrote:
> I have a PE1420SC, which has a OEM DELL SCSI hardware... 
> I used http://staff.osuosl.org/~kveton/debian/debian-dell-2.4.29.iso in
> order to make a first install.

I have recently installed sarge on two  Dell 2850's  using the
debian-del-2.4.31-iso and then using that .config to build a 2.6.12
kernel.  I don't know whether the 2.4.31 is at the above mentioned
url, but you will quickly find it if you use Google.

Regards
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Asus A3E 5003, speakers problem

[Ivan Adams]

Hi group,
i have Asus A3E 5003, and using debian SID, but the internal speakers dont work. There have NO sound from then. Even noise.
There are some facts:

1. Linux kernel - 2.6.12 HERE

2. Boot THIS.

3. Modules in /etc/modules THAT.

4. Active modules after boot THERE.

5. Things in lspci HERE линк.

ALSA

./configure --help

   Possible cards are:
   
seq-dummy, dummy, virmidi, mtpav, serial-u16550,
   
mpu401, serialmidi, loopback, portman2x4, pcsp,
   
ad1848-lib, cs4231-lib, ad1816a, ad1848, cs4231,
   
cs4232, cs4236, es968, es1688, es18xx,
   
gusclassic, gusextreme, gusmax, interwave,
   
interwave-stb, opti92x-ad1848, opti92x-cs4231,
   
opti93x, sb8, sb16, sbawe, wavefront, als100,
   
azt2320, cmi8330, dt019x, opl3sa2, sgalaxy,
   
sscape, pc98-cs4232, miro, msnd-pinnacle,
   
ali5451, atiixp, atiixp-modem, au8810, au8820,
   
au8830, azt3328, bt87x, cs46xx, cs4281, emu10k1,
   
emu10k1x, ca0106, korg1212, mixart, nm256, rme32,
   
rme96, rme9652, hdsp, trident, ymfpci, als4000,
   
cmipci, ens1370, ens1371, es1938, es1968,
   
maestro3, fm801, fm801-tea575x, ice1712, ice1724,
   
intel8x0, intel8x0m, sonicvibes, via82xx,
   
via82xx-modem, vx222, hda-intel, pdplus, hdspm,
   
asihpi, pcxhr, darla20, gina20, layla20, darla24,
   
gina24, layla24, mona, mia, echo3g, indigo,
   
indigoio, indigodj, powermac, sa11xx-uda1341,
   
armaaci, pxa2xx-ac97, s3c2410, au1x00, usb-audio,
   
usb-usx2y, vxpocket, vxp440, pdaudiocf,
   
sun-amd7930, sun-cs4231, sun-dbri, harmony

(azx  не видях ... има azt3328 ...)

intel8x0 не ми върши защото: 

Module snd-intel8x0

  ---



    Module for AC'97 motherboards from Intel and compatibles.

   
* Intel i810/810E, i815, i820, i830, i84x, MX440
   
* SiS 7012 (SiS 735)
   
* NVidia NForce, NForce2
   
* AMD AMD768, AMD8111
   
* ALi m5455



    Module for Intel ICH (i8x0) chipset MC97 modems.



    ac97_clock    - AC'97 codec clock base (0 = auto-detect)







  Module snd-hda-intel

  



    Module for Intel HD Audio (ICH6, ICH6M, ICH7), ATI SB450,

   VIA VT8251/VT8237A

--
--

./configure --with-cards=hda-intel
make
make install
./snddevice
after

ls -l /lib/modules/2.6.12/kernel/sound/pci/hda/
total 112
-rw-r--r--  1 root root 90434 2005-07-20 18:07 snd-hda-codec.ko
-rw-r--r--  1 root root 21287 2005-07-20 18:07 snd-hda-intel.ko

alsaconf ... 

same - no sound from speakers

dpkg -l | grep -i alsa
ii 
alsa-base  
1.0.9b-2  
ALSA driver configuration files
ii 
alsa-oss   
1.0.9-1   
ALSA wrapper forOSS applications
ii 
alsa-source
1.0.9b-2  
ALSA driver sources
ii 
alsa-utils 
1.0.9a-3  
ALSA utilities

ii 
alsamixergui   
0.9.0rc2-1-9  
graphical soundcard mixer for ALSA soundcard
ii 
gamix  
1.99.p14.debian1-2
Graphical sound mixer for ALSA
ii 
libasound2 
1.0.9-3   
ALSA library

ii 
linux-sound-base   
1.0.9b-2  
base package forALSA and OSS sound systems
ii 
snd-gtk-alsa   
7.8-1 
Sound file editor (GTK+ user interface)

alsamixer - and after that I switch on 6 channel sound. AFTER THAT I HAVE SOUND ON outside speaker jack.

I AM WITH ROOT, and i have group audio

discover -b -t -v

Loading XML data... ata pci pcmcia scsi usb Done

unknown unknown

unknown unknown

Intel Corp. Mobile Memory Controller Hub

Intel Corp. Mobile Graphics Controller

Intel Corp. Mobile Graphics Controller

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Re: Bizarre ls Behavior

[Steve Lamb]

Ron Johnson wrote:
> Whaddaya mean "a while back"?  It's still in Sid...

Erm, based on me not being able to find it with "locate".  I figured it
had been subsumed into the shells like some other former external commands.  :D

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did this lead to the solution?

[Marco Weber]

Hi Mike

Currently I can't think of way to do this. Nevertheless, read on :)

/folder (umask 002)
/folder/subfolder (umask 022)

in a clean and proper way.

One could create a script, that detects new subfolders and then goes setting 
the umask to 022 - but that's not really what I call clean.

Wait a sec, how about this:
Maybe there's another proper way of achiving:

/folder (umask 002) | every user can create new directories
/folder/subfolder (still umask 002) | every user can read, but not write in 
the subfolder created by another user.

As long as you don't set the sticky bit for users and groups on the directory 
(chmod -R 6774 /folder), a new directory created will have the ownership:
userA:userAsdefaultgroup

and as long as other users aren't member of 'userAsdefaultgroup', they won't 
be able to write to /folder/subfolder - even if the umask is 002.

I gues this quite depends on the system you use.
Most of the systems I see do this:

frank:frank
john:john
lisa:lisa

When a user is created, there's also a group created coresponding to that user 
and this group becomes the users default group.

Some others I saw do this:

frank:users
john:users
lisa:users

In this second case, no coresponding group is created - but the user gets 
added to group 'users' upon creation, making 'users' the default group for 
that user.

I hope this gives you the inspiration to solve this problem.

friendly greetings

Marco Weber


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Re: Bizarre ls Behavior

[Hendrik Sattler]

Martin McCormick wrote:
> -r-xr-xr-x2 root root   301376 Jan 21 09:45 ls
> Thanks for any hints as to why this directory doesn't list if
> one is in it but does list if one is either root or doing ls from
> outside the bin directory.

Guessing: your $PATH contains "." before the "/bin"
Bad thing!
When in doubt: run /bin/ls instead of ls.

HS


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