Re: Asterisk PBX in Debian

[Alexei Chetroi]

On Fri, Oct 07, 2005 at 12:52:35AM -0500, Carlos Prieto wrote:
> Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 00:52:35 -0500
> From: Carlos Prieto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Reply-To: Carlos Prieto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Asterisk PBX in Debian
> 
>Hi everyone.
> 
>I've installed Asterisk PBX using apt packages, but i don't have actually
>any Digium card, so i want to use ztdummy.
> 
>I've tried to modify the Makefiles in the debian source package, i don't
>get any error, but still the ztdummy module doesn't get compiled.
> 
>Does anybody has idea how to get the ztdummy module using the debian
>package system?

  You should install package zaptel-source, which contains sources for
the ztdummy driver. After that carefuly read man page for
module-assistant for how to correctly build modules for your kernel.


  Best wishes

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Asterisk PBX in Debian

[Carlos Prieto]

Hi everyone.



I've installed Asterisk PBX using apt packages, but i don't have actually any Digium card, so i want to use ztdummy.



I've tried to modify the Makefiles in the debian source package, i
don't get any error, but still the ztdummy module doesn't get compiled.



Does anybody has idea how to get the ztdummy module using the debian package system?



Thanks for your help.

Re: Where is my Economist?

[Steve Mazurek]

Which Steve or Stephen is it that is supposed to be offering you a
subscription to the Economist?  And why is this Stephen or Steve
doing this using a Debian Linux computer operating system mailing list?On 10/6/05, Fritz Volbach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:








Several weeks ago I informed you  that our 
address had changed from 3479 Sacramento Street, San Francisco, CA 94118-1913 
to: 2211 Scott Street, San Francisco, CA 94115-1722. I also inquired via phone 
about this failure to send the Economist to my new address. No copies were sent 
to the old address either.
 
Please check on this subscription and finally start 
sending me the Economist again!
 
Fritz 
Volbach

make apt-get install suggested packages automatically

[Alexandru Cardaniuc]

Hi All!

Is it possible to make apt-get install not only the packages that the
package depends on but also suggested packages automatically as aptitude
does?

man apt-get, apt-conf didn't help...


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set custom font in Emacs

[Alexandru Cardaniuc]

Hi All!

Before using Emacs on MS Windows XP I was able to choose my favourite
non-proportional font for Emacs to use inserting this in my ~/.emacs

;(set-default-font 
; "-outline-Bitstream Vera Sans 
Mono-normal-r-normal-normal-13-97-96-96-c-*-iso8859-1")


After switching to Linux I am not able to do that anymore. When I insert
this line in ~/.emacs - Emacs gives an error on startup and starts with
the default font. 

Moreover, when I press  +  to get the fonts -
I don't see Bitstream Vera Sans Mono there as an

When I run set-frame-font function - I get only the following options:

-bitstream-charter-bold-i-normal--10-100-75-75-p-62-iso8859-1
-bitstream-charter-bold-i-normal--11-80-100-100-p-68-iso8859-1
-bitstream-charter-bold-i-normal--12-120-75-75-p-74-iso8859-1
-bitstream-charter-bold-i-normal--14-100-100-100-p-86-iso8859-1
-bitstream-charter-bold-i-normal--15-140-75-75-p-93-iso8859-1
-bitstream-charter-bold-i-normal--17-120-100-100-p-105-iso8859-1
-bitstream-charter-bold-i-normal--19-140-100-100-p-117-iso8859-1
-bitstream-charter-bold-i-normal--19-180-75-75-p-117-iso8859-1
-bitstream-charter-bold-i-normal--25-180-100-100-p-154-iso8859-1
-bitstream-charter-bold-i-normal--25-240-75-75-p-154-iso8859-1
-bitstream-charter-bold-i-normal--33-240-100-100-p-203-iso8859-1
-bitstream-charter-bold-i-normal--8-80-75-75-p-50-iso8859-1
-bitstream-charter-bold-r-normal--10-100-75-75-p-63-iso8859-1
-bitstream-charter-bold-r-normal--11-80-100-100-p-69-iso8859-1
-bitstream-charter-bold-r-normal--12-120-75-75-p-75-iso8859-1
-bitstream-charter-bold-r-normal--14-100-100-100-p-88-iso8859-1
-bitstream-charter-bold-r-normal--15-140-75-75-p-94-iso8859-1
-bitstream-charter-bold-r-normal--17-120-100-100-p-107-iso8859-1
-bitstream-charter-bold-r-normal--19-140-100-100-p-119-iso8859-1
-bitstream-charter-bold-r-normal--19-180-75-75-p-119-iso8859-1
-bitstream-charter-bold-r-normal--25-180-100-100-p-157-iso8859-1
-bitstream-charter-bold-r-normal--25-240-75-75-p-157-iso8859-1
-bitstream-charter-bold-r-normal--33-240-100-100-p-206-iso8859-1
-bitstream-charter-bold-r-normal--8-80-75-75-p-50-iso8859-1
-bitstream-charter-medium-i-normal--10-100-75-75-p-55-iso8859-1
-bitstream-charter-medium-i-normal--11-80-100-100-p-60-iso8859-1
-bitstream-charter-medium-i-normal--12-120-75-75-p-65-iso8859-1
-bitstream-charter-medium-i-normal--14-100-100-100-p-76-iso8859-1
-bitstream-charter-medium-i-normal--15-140-75-75-p-82-iso8859-1
-bitstream-charter-medium-i-normal--17-120-100-100-p-92-iso8859-1
-bitstream-charter-medium-i-normal--19-140-100-100-p-103-iso8859-1
-bitstream-charter-medium-i-normal--19-180-75-75-p-103-iso8859-1
-bitstream-charter-medium-i-normal--25-180-100-100-p-136-iso8859-1
-bitstream-charter-medium-i-normal--25-240-75-75-p-136-iso8859-1
-bitstream-charter-medium-i-normal--33-240-100-100-p-179-iso8859-1
-bitstream-charter-medium-i-normal--8-80-75-75-p-44-iso8859-1
-bitstream-charter-medium-r-normal--10-100-75-75-p-56-iso8859-1
-bitstream-charter-medium-r-normal--11-80-100-100-p-61-iso8859-1
-bitstream-charter-medium-r-normal--12-120-75-75-p-67-iso8859-1
-bitstream-charter-medium-r-normal--14-100-100-100-p-78-iso8859-1
-bitstream-charter-medium-r-normal--15-140-75-75-p-84-iso8859-1
-bitstream-charter-medium-r-normal--17-120-100-100-p-95-iso8859-1
-bitstream-charter-medium-r-normal--19-140-100-100-p-106-iso8859-1
-bitstream-charter-medium-r-normal--19-180-75-75-p-106-iso8859-1
-bitstream-charter-medium-r-normal--25-180-100-100-p-139-iso8859-1
-bitstream-charter-medium-r-normal--25-240-75-75-p-139-iso8859-1
-bitstream-charter-medium-r-normal--33-240-100-100-p-183-iso8859-1
-bitstream-charter-medium-r-normal--8-80-75-75-p-45-iso8859-1
-bitstream-terminal-bold-r-normal--18-140-100-100-c-110-dec-dectech
-bitstream-terminal-bold-r-normal--18-140-100-100-c-110-iso8859-1
-bitstream-terminal-medium-r-normal--18-140-100-100-c-110-dec-dectech
-bitstream-terminal-medium-r-normal--18-140-100-100-c-110-iso8859-1

There is no Bitstream Vera Sans Mono among these Bitstream fonts.
Although I know that I have it on my system. I am able to choose it in
Gnome. In Desktop -> Preferences -> Font. I can choose that font there
as an application font and most applications will use it, but not Emacs.
So I guess somewhere I have to configure something.

Any help will be greatly appreciated...


using Debian Sid amd64

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Re: Checking Filesystems

[Tim N9PUZ]

michael wrote:


On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 04:24:59PM -0500, Tim McDonough wrote:

Recently when running backups from Windows machines I've started 
getting errors that say one or more files don't verify correctly. They 
are not files that are in use at the time of the backup or verify and 
if I perform multiple backups in a row different files will not 
verify. On the last instance of this happening there were 3 files out 
of several thousand that did not verify correctly.



you don't say either way, but don't use WinXX, go to Hibernate, then
boot to Linux, then back to WinXX since it'll wonder why files have
changed during hibernation


The Windows XP machine is not going into hibernate, etc. Earlier this 
evening I even tried doing some smaller test backups of just a few 
hundred files that I know are not being changed by any other 
application. Using the backup program built into Windows I made 
backups of the same files 5 times in all. Twice there were 1-3 files 
that did not verify (different files each time) and three times the 
verify was sucessful.


I tried an older Linux machine I have as well (RH 8, 200MHz PII) and 
the backups worked fine in each case.


I don't believe the drive can be easily swapped to a different machine 
because of motherboard differences but I may add in a second spare 
drive I have and see if there are still problems and/or just swap out 
the present drive for a different one.


Tim


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Re: hard drive access

[Gene Heskett]

On Thursday 06 October 2005 22:15, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
>This past Saturday my main workstation at home quit on me. 
> Unfortunately this happened while I was away for the day.  When I
> arrived home the system was beeping (a continuous cycle of 1 second
> beep followed by 4 seconds of silence). Originally, I thought it was a
> failed power supply.  Antec tech support disagreed with me and referred
> me to the motherboard manufacturer (Biostar). Their tech support said
> that the beep code indicated either a dead CPU or a corrupted BIOS. 
> After I explained that removing the RAM, CPU and video card resulted in
> exactly the same beeping, the tech said he was reasonably certain it
> was the BIOS.  So, to make a long story short, they are sending me a
> new BIOS chip to install.

And BIOSTAR didn't mention the failed caps problem?  Odd.  Take a
look at the top of all those capacitors lined up in a row around the
cpu.  Pay attention to any bulging of the tops, and to any leakage
onto the motherboard visible at the bases, it is probably an off
white color.

Either condition should be grounds to replace all of those
capacitors.  We've salvaged several of their motherboards, and if you
have access to the right soldering tools, its not that difficult a
job.  I think they got caught in the bad capacitors thing that got a
lot of Taiwanese makers about 4 years ago.  Be sure and use high
quality, low esr rated parts.

>However, there is no guarantee that the new BIOS will fix the problem,
> leaving with the possibility of getting a new mother board.  The
> problem I have is that though my system performs regular backups (every
> morning @ 0200) to my file server, there are some important things I
> did Saturday morning to which I need access and if I end up needing a
> new motherboard, it could be anohter week or two before it is back up
> and running. The real problem is that my system has two hard drives in
> RAID1 (software) with LVM on top of that.  The question is: How do I
> safely access the data?
>
>The LVM HOWTO has a recipe for moving a volume from one system to
> another, but I can't perform the prep steps since my main system is not
> bootable. Unfortunately, I don't have a spare motherboard laying around
> that I can use either.  I know that the RAID part is not so big a deal,
> since it will happily rebuild a "dirty" part of the array.  However, I
> am clueless as to how I might get access to the LVM volumes.Any
> suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
>
>-Roberto
>
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>http://familiasanchez.net/~roberto

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Re: Where is my Economist?

[Steve Block]

On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 06:27:11PM -0500, John Hasler wrote:

Please do not follow up to these.  You'll just generate Google hits and
therefor more such emails.


Bah, I find this stuff more amusing that what usually goes on in here.

:-)

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operate system without keyboard

[hja]

i am running debian 'testing' on a desktop. i would like to be able to
operate the system without a hardware keyboard but instead use a mouse
and on-screen keyboard. i started with removing the section on 'keyboard
input device' from XF86Config-4 but lost the gui on boot-up.
i am sure a system can run without hw keyboard, as in a server.
would appreciate some help on this.

thks
kangja


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Re: Problems with traffic shaping (tcng / tc)

[Grant Thomas]

On 9/20/05, Clemens Eisserer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Does really nobody know wether this does not work?
> Should it work theoretically?
>
> Maybe you could point me where tc/tcng-experienced people are - I do
> not want to nerve with this topic since its of course on topic on the
> debian users list ;-)
>
> Thanks for your patience, lg Clemens
>
> 2005/9/20, Clemens Eisserer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > Hi there,
> >
> > I use a old P90 for routing our LAN into the internet, however
> > sometimes I want to download large binaries to the server itself which
> > may not slow down the internet-connection of the PCs in the LAN.
> >
> > I wrote a small tcng-skript which should do the trick - basically
> > assign all available bandwith tho the two end-user pcs in the LAN
> > (user1, user2) - and only very little minium bandwith to the server
> > itself (user3).
> > However if I start to download an iso on the server using wget
> > browsing is almost impossible on the LAN pcs at all :-(
> > Any ideas what could be wrong, since I am very new to tcng it could be
> > easily that I made mistakes or misunderstood something.
> > Btw. I route the two PCs into the internet doing NAT via iptables.
> >
> > Please help, I already tried days to slove it myself but I simply was
> > not able to find the problem :-(
> >
> > Thank you in advance, lg Clemens
> >
> > The tcng-"source":
> >
> > #include "fields.tc"
> > #include "ports.tc"
> > $INTERFACE="ippp0";
> > $MAX=75kbps;
> > $RATE_USER1=60kbps;
> > $RATE_USER2=12kbps;
> > $RATE_USER3=3kbps;
> >
> >
> > dev $INTERFACE
> > {
> >   egress
> >   {
> > class (<$user1>) if ip_src == 192.168.0.2;
> > class (<$user2>) if ip_src == 192.168.1.2;
> > class (<$user3>) if ip_src == 127.0.0.1;
> >
> > htb ()
> >{
> >  class (rate $MAX, ceil $MAX)
> >  {
> >$user1 = class (rate $RATE_USER1, ceil $MAX) {sfq;};
> >$user2 = class (rate $RATE_USER2, ceil $MAX) {sfq;};
> >$user3 = class (rate $RATE_USER3, ceil $MAX) {sfq;};
> >}
> >   }
> >  }
> > }
> >
> >
> > The resulting tc-skript:
> >
> > tc qdisc del dev ippp0 root
> >
> > # === Device ippp0 
> > 
> >
> > tc qdisc add dev ippp0 handle 1:0 root dsmark indices 4 default_index 0
> > tc qdisc add dev ippp0 handle 2:0 parent 1:0 htb
> > tc class add dev ippp0 parent 2:0 classid 2:1 htb rate 9375bps ceil 9375bps
> > tc class add dev ippp0 parent 2:1 classid 2:2 htb rate 7500bps ceil 9375bps
> > tc qdisc add dev ippp0 handle 3:0 parent 2:2 sfq
> > tc class add dev ippp0 parent 2:1 classid 2:3 htb rate 1500bps ceil 9375bps
> > tc qdisc add dev ippp0 handle 4:0 parent 2:3 sfq
> > tc class add dev ippp0 parent 2:1 classid 2:4 htb rate 375bps ceil 9375bps
> > tc qdisc add dev ippp0 handle 5:0 parent 2:4 sfq
> > tc filter add dev ippp0 parent 2:0 protocol all prio 1 tcindex mask 0x3 
> > shift 0
> > tc filter add dev ippp0 parent 2:0 protocol all prio 1 handle 3
> > tcindex classid 2:4
> > tc filter add dev ippp0 parent 2:0 protocol all prio 1 handle 2
> > tcindex classid 2:3
> > tc filter add dev ippp0 parent 2:0 protocol all prio 1 handle 1
> > tcindex classid 2:2
> > tc filter add dev ippp0 parent 1:0 protocol all prio 1 u32 match u32
> > 0xc0a80002 0x at 12 classid 1:1
> > tc filter add dev ippp0 parent 1:0 protocol all prio 1 u32 match u32
> > 0xc0a80102 0x at 12 classid 1:2
> > tc filter add dev ippp0 parent 1:0 protocol all prio 1 u32 match u32
> > 0x7f01 0x at 12 classid 1:3
> >
>
>

First of all, I am new to tc and QOS as well, but I will try my best
to give a hand.
>From what little I understand, yours should work, but you might also
give this a try since you already seem to have all the required apps
installed.

Earlier this week, I started using tc to do shaping on my network.
I came across a great resource:
www.lartc.org
The article I am referencing is:
http://www.lartc.org/howto/lartc.cookbook.fullnat.intro.html

One of the main differences between this setup and yours is in the host's setup.
Instead of declaring a host for the server, it defaults all traffic to
the lowest class, and discriminately boosts the priority of certain
hosts, protocols, destinations, etc using iptables.

Here is a quick excerpt:
He recommends using 75% of your max bandwidth to prevent excess lag.

CEIL=75
tc qdisc add dev ippp0 root handle 1: htb default 12
tc class add dev ippp0 parent 1: classid 1:1 htb rate ${CEIL}kbit ceil
${CEIL}kbit
tc class add dev ippp0 parent 1:1 classid 1:10 htb rate 60kbit ceil
${CEIL}kbit prio 0
tc class add dev ippp0 parent 1:1 classid 1:11 htb rate 12kbit ceil
${CEIL}kbit prio 1
tc class add dev ippp0 parent 1:1 classid 1:12 htb rate 3kbit  ceil
${CEIL}kbit prio 2

tc filter add dev ippp0 parent 1:0 protocol ip prio 1 handle 1 fw classid 1:10
tc filter add dev ippp0 parent 1:0 protocol ip prio 2 handle 2 fw classid 1:11
tc filter add dev ippp0 parent 1:0 protocol ip prio 3 handle 3 fw c

Re: hard drive access

[Alvin Oga]

hi ya

On Thu, 6 Oct 2005, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:

> disagreed with me and referred me to the motherboard manufacturer (Biostar). 

:-)

> Their tech support said that the beep code indicated either a dead CPU or a
> corrupted BIOS.  After I explained that removing the RAM, CPU and video card
> resulted in exactly the same beeping

how can it beep without the cpu ..

i say you have a bad cpu ( overheated ?? ) or fan slowed down enough that
it allows the cpu to run hotter than it should be

- open the case ... and use a standard $20 household fan to blow
on the cpu and see if it boots/runs

, the tech said he was reasonably certain
> it was the BIOS. 

bios does not die too often if ever .. unless you're flashing the sucker

> However, there is no guarantee that the new BIOS will fix the problem, leaving
> with the possibility of getting a new mother board.  The problem I have is 
> that
> though my system performs regular backups (every morning @ 0200)

your backups is also questionable ... since it could have been backing up
corrupt files 
- hopefully ou have been saving your data in different files
instead of overwritting "yesterday's" or last week's backups

> to my file
> two before it is back up and running. The real problem is that my system has
> two hard drives in RAID1 (software) with LVM on top of that.  The question is:
> How do I safely access the data?

my silly question ... why can you move the 2 disks to a different
motherboard ( ycu can get um for free  or up to $1000 or more for
motherboards depending on how pick you are about which motherboard )

if the lvm drives is somehow locked to the motherboard, that'd suck

c ya
alvin


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hard drive access

[Roberto C. Sanchez]

This past Saturday my main workstation at home quit on me.  Unfortunately this
happened while I was away for the day.  When I arrived home the system was
beeping (a continuous cycle of 1 second beep followed by 4 seconds of silence).
 Originally, I thought it was a failed power supply.  Antec tech support
disagreed with me and referred me to the motherboard manufacturer (Biostar). 
Their tech support said that the beep code indicated either a dead CPU or a
corrupted BIOS.  After I explained that removing the RAM, CPU and video card
resulted in exactly the same beeping, the tech said he was reasonably certain
it was the BIOS.  So, to make a long story short, they are sending me a new
BIOS chip to install.

However, there is no guarantee that the new BIOS will fix the problem, leaving
with the possibility of getting a new mother board.  The problem I have is that
though my system performs regular backups (every morning @ 0200) to my file
server, there are some important things I did Saturday morning to which I need
access and if I end up needing a new motherboard, it could be anohter week or
two before it is back up and running. The real problem is that my system has
two hard drives in RAID1 (software) with LVM on top of that.  The question is:
How do I safely access the data?

The LVM HOWTO has a recipe for moving a volume from one system to another, but I
can't perform the prep steps since my main system is not bootable. 
Unfortunately, I don't have a spare motherboard laying around that I can use
either.  I know that the RAID part is not so big a deal, since it will happily
rebuild a "dirty" part of the array.  However, I am clueless as to how I might
get access to the LVM volumes.Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

-Roberto

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Re: start firefox in particular desktop (under XFCE4)

[Patrick Wiseman]

On 10/5/05, Matt Price <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I love XFCE4, but one bummer is that its session manager doesn't seefirefox, so it won't get restarted automatically when I log in.  Theworkaround is to put an executable file in ~/Desktop/Autostart withthe single line:
/usr/bin/mozilla-firefoxthis then gets executed on every startup.  But I want to have firefoxstart on desktop 3, not on any old desktop.  anyone know an automaticway to do this?

If you shut down on desktop 3, the session manager returns to desktop 3
on restarting.  So, depending on the timing (I'm not sure when the
executables in Autostart get started), firefox will open on desktop
3.  That's kludgy, of course, because you'd like it to do that
even if you shut down on desktop 1.

Patrick

Configuring apt-build.

[Kumar Appaiah]

Dear list,
I am trying to use apt-build to compile a few software for my
machine. The problem is that the configuration file at
/etc/apt/apt-build.conf seems to get ignored; for options from there
aren't used.

From the 'net, I have learnt and have used the following:

build-dir = /var/cache/apt-build/build
repository-dir = /var/cache/apt-build/repository
Olevel = -O2
mtune = -mtune=pentium4
march = -march=pentium4
options = " -msse2 -mmmx"
make_options = " -j2"

apt-build info  gives me:
march: no such variable at /etc/apt/apt-build.conf line 5

Though the compile works, none of the above options work.

Yes, I have read the readme, which says that even though it doesn't
appear that way, actually, optimized compile happens. The author asks
us to look at `ps ax' as proof, but doing that shows only -mtune=i486
as the option.

Any pointers?

Kumar
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Re: Checking Filesystems

[michael]

On Thu, 2005-10-06 at 18:35 -0400, C Shore wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 04:24:59PM -0500, Tim McDonough wrote:
> > Recently when running backups from Windows machines I've started 
> > getting errors that say one or more files don't verify correctly. They 
> > are not files that are in use at the time of the backup or verify and 
> > if I perform multiple backups in a row different files will not 
> > verify. On the last instance of this happening there were 3 files out 
> > of several thousand that did not verify correctly.
> 
> I had a similar occurrence a few years ago.  In my case it wasn't the 
> hard drive (bad blocks tend to be more predictable, and bigger), nor 
> RAM, but a defective cpu (or motherboard, I don't remember which).
> 
> I know the hard drive and ram were okay because I'm using them still.  
> The cpu had issues in another system, but whether the cpu was a cause or 
> effect is not clear.
> 
> So, if you can, test your hard drive in another system (because it's 
> easiest to move).  If it works you may be looking at the same kind of 
> problem I had.

you don't say either way, but don't use WinXX, go to Hibernate, then
boot to Linux, then back to WinXX since it'll wonder why files have
changed during hibernation


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Re: Where is my Ec0n0mist?

[John Hasler]

Please do not follow up to these.  You'll just generate Google hits and
therefor more such emails.
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Re: preferred method of using imap/mutt

[Ryan Claycamp]

On Wed, 05 Oct 2005 at 2211 -0700, John L Fjellstad wrote:
>Best solution for filtering is probably what Roberto suggested. If
>that's impossible, you should look into offlineimap.  Basically, it
>syncs your local Mail with the IMAP.  Since it's IMAP, any changes you
>do on the local end gets changed on the server. It's especially nice
>solution for laptops (where you don't always have your net connection,
>but you still want access to your email).
>

Thanks for the tip on offlineimap.  I recently purchased a laptop and
was using IMAP on my old computer so I would have a constant place for
it.  Offlineimap does a great job so far.

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Re: php-mysql

[Mitja Podreka]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi, I am trying to install php and mysql in Debian(Sarge) in a non gui
installation and I am not sure how to install these two programs, please
help.
 


Easy LAMP on Debian Linux
http://www.madcarters.com/content/view/26/1/

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Re: Upgraded from 512 to 1024 ram. Now, how to fine tune the system?

[Ron Johnson]

On Thu, 06 Oct 2005 18:41:33 -0300
Bruno Buys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Just bought an extra 512mb ram module, to add to my existing
> 512mb. Free reports the total correctly, but i was wondering if
> is there any way that i fine tune my system for better use of
> this memory. That's the first time i run a 1gb pc :)!
> Any help?

No need to do any manual optimisations.  Linux will handle it for
you.
 
> specs are:
> 
> mobo abit  kv8-pro 754 (k8t800pro and via vt8237 south)
> sempron 2600
> 1 Gb mem
> pixel view tv capture card
> onboard sound & eth
> 
> i do some video/audio editing and lots of gimp editing, as a top 
> mem-consuming tasks.  

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Re: Where is my Economist?

[Stephen R Laniel]

On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 03:39:01PM -0700, Fritz Volbach wrote:
> Please check on this subscription and finally start sending me the Economist
> again!

What led you to post that to a mailing list about the Debian
Linux distribution?

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Re: mysql installation

[Mitja Podreka]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


My MySQL installation does not have a mysql.sock
file(it is not anywhere in my system).So,when I
try to connect to the mysql server the connection
fails.My Debian system when starting shows that 
mysql server is starting,when stopping shows that

mysql server is stopping.The installation was done
with aptitude.


I think I had the same problem as you.
I found the  solution at:
http://forums.mysql.com/read.php?35,40155,40155

First I made a backup folder for the mysql database files
mkdir /var/lib/mysql/mysql-backup

then moved there the database files
mv /var/lib/mysql/mysql /var/lib/mysql/mysql-backup

Then I reinstalled mysql-server with apt-get
apt-get --reinstall install mysql-server

It worked fine for me!

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Where is my Economist?

[Fritz Volbach]

Several weeks ago I informed you  that our 
address had changed from 3479 Sacramento Street, San Francisco, CA 94118-1913 
to: 2211 Scott Street, San Francisco, CA 94115-1722. I also inquired via phone 
about this failure to send the Economist to my new address. No copies were sent 
to the old address either.
 
Please check on this subscription and finally start 
sending me the Economist again!
 
Fritz 
Volbach

Re: Checking Filesystems

[C Shore]

On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 04:24:59PM -0500, Tim McDonough wrote:
> Recently when running backups from Windows machines I've started 
> getting errors that say one or more files don't verify correctly. They 
> are not files that are in use at the time of the backup or verify and 
> if I perform multiple backups in a row different files will not 
> verify. On the last instance of this happening there were 3 files out 
> of several thousand that did not verify correctly.

I had a similar occurrence a few years ago.  In my case it wasn't the 
hard drive (bad blocks tend to be more predictable, and bigger), nor 
RAM, but a defective cpu (or motherboard, I don't remember which).

I know the hard drive and ram were okay because I'm using them still.  
The cpu had issues in another system, but whether the cpu was a cause or 
effect is not clear.

So, if you can, test your hard drive in another system (because it's 
easiest to move).  If it works you may be looking at the same kind of 
problem I had.


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Re: wdm (was Re: )

[Arthur H. Johnson II]

WDM ownz.  Thats my preferred DM.  Sounds silly, and I'm being totally
serious here, I love it when you enter your pass wrong and it vibrates.
Thats cute.

Of course, my pref for WDM probably has something to do with my worship of
Window Maker.

On Thu, 6 Oct 2005, Jon Dowland wrote:

> On Mon, Aug 29, 2005 at 06:20:39AM -0400, Tom Allison wrote:
> > I know I'm going OT now, but I love WDM and am glad to see someone give
> > it mention here.  But I have one question: Is there any option to
> > display the time on the wdm login window?
>
> Ah wdm, I'd love it if you could drive it from the keyboard. Alas...
>
>

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Re: Synaptic Package Manager vs. RPM

[Glenn English]

On Thu, 2005-10-06 at 09:35 -0700, Jeremy Merritt wrote:

> What makes Synaptic different from RPM in "concept"?

Like they said, it's the difference between .rpm's and .deb's, and the
package managers. They both contain the install location(s) and a list
of dependencies. The big difference is that apt-get, and friends, don't
simply throw up their hands when a dependency is missing -- they go get
it and install it. Usually -- and when they don't, it's cause for
massive whinage on the user lists until the prob is fixed.

Apt-get has been ported to several rpm distros, and does an outstanding
job installing rpm packages (and fetching dependencies). Apt's benes are
more in the package handling software than in the packages themselves.

> Can you manage any packages via RPM in Debian? I saw there was some
> kind of RPM utility but I never worked with it much.

rpm itself is there, if you want to apt-get install it, and it will
unpack a package, check for dependencies, and install just fine. The
biggest problem you can run into using random rpm packages is that they
may (very often will) look for dependencies in the wrong places and/or
install things in the wrong places -- RedHat/Mandrake/SuSE places
instead of Debian places. 

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php-mysql

[nano]

Hi, I am trying to install php and mysql in Debian(Sarge) in a non gui
installation and I am not sure how to install these two programs, please
help.

Fernando


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wdm (was Re: )

[Jon Dowland]

On Mon, Aug 29, 2005 at 06:20:39AM -0400, Tom Allison wrote:
> I know I'm going OT now, but I love WDM and am glad to see someone give 
> it mention here.  But I have one question: Is there any option to 
> display the time on the wdm login window?

Ah wdm, I'd love it if you could drive it from the keyboard. Alas...

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Upgraded from 512 to 1024 ram. Now, how to fine tune the system?

[Bruno Buys]

Just bought an extra 512mb ram module, to add to my existing 512mb. Free 
reports the total correctly, but i was wondering if is there any way 
that i fine tune my system for better use of this memory. That's the 
first time i run a 1gb pc :)!

Any help?

specs are:

mobo abit  kv8-pro 754 (k8t800pro and via vt8237 south)
sempron 2600
1 Gb mem
pixel view tv capture card
onboard sound & eth

i do some video/audio editing and lots of gimp editing, as a top 
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Checking Filesystems

[Tim McDonough]

I have a fairly new Debian 3.1 system running Samba that I use as a 
home fileserver. The machine has a 30GB drive set up with / and swap 
partitions.


Recently when running backups from Windows machines I've started 
getting errors that say one or more files don't verify correctly. They 
are not files that are in use at the time of the backup or verify and 
if I perform multiple backups in a row different files will not 
verify. On the last instance of this happening there were 3 files out 
of several thousand that did not verify correctly.


This sounds as if there may be one or more bad blocks. What's the most 
appropriate way to check and/or the filesystem?


Thanks for any pointers to utilities or articles.

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RE: Debian ISO images of etch (testing)

[michael gregg]

You probably want to use the images from:
http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/daily/

For i386, more secifically you will probably want:
http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/daily/i386/20051002/debian-tes
ting-i386-netinst.iso

Good luck. 

-Original Message-
From: Daniel Garcia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 1:15 AM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Debian ISO images of etch (testing)

Hello,

I saw in the debian pages that each week a testing ISO image is done, but
when I look for download it I can not find it. What I find is:

debian-31r0a-i386-binary-1.jigdo07-Jun-2005 14:19 
 35K 

I find that at the page:

http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/cd/jigdo-area/i386/

This image is a sarge image, not a etch image. Where can I find the etch
images?

Thank you
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Inspiron TrackStick - How to disable?

[Curtis Vaughan]

I have a Dell Inspirion 4000 that has both a trackstick (I think that's 
what it's called), as well as a touchpad. I really need to disable the 
trackstick somehow. Can anyone tell me how to do that? Or where to look?


BTW, I know that you can set the BIOS such that when an external mouse 
is attached it turns both the trackstick and pad off, but I would prefer 
just to completely disable the trackstick.


Thanks for any help!

Curtis


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Re: backup plan bare metal

[R Ransbottom]

On Tue, Sep 20, 2005 at 12:28:15AM -0500, Rodney Richison wrote:
> Would be interested in seeing what some of you use for a backup plan. 
> Mainly for servers.
> Tar?
> Easy/quick way to restore bare metal?

Some of the replies you have gotten seem to miss the point of
"bare metal recovery"; which is to come back to your basic system
without out having to think about configuration.  It presumes 
that your "metal" is the same hardware configuation, more or 
less per the particular recovery program.  Accordingly the 
satisfying ones derive the recovery system from the live 
system; this puts the sysadmin in a comfortable environment.

I will recommend the Debian package "bootcd" to your attention,
this is rather like Yard but for cds or dvds, and more modern.
Summarily:  bootcd lets you copy a bootable cd from your system,
it lets you exclude directories from the copy.

I have the practice of keeping a spare "rescue" root partition
on most machines.  This is occasionally a great convenience.
For me this is just a Debian base install with a few extra
programs.

Grub is also to be recommended over lilo for recovery.  Grub
allows a wider range of command decisions to be made at boot time.

rdev is slick but it doesn't offer redundant redundancy, so it
is more convenience than real data safety.

I use cpio to write all my backups.  After you dig around to
find a 5.25 floppy drive, or some other old hardware, you do not
want to be trying to determine how to decipher some odd backup
format or look for a 8 year old version of an OS that will run
on current hardware and may run the appropriate restore program,
if you can find a copy of it.

Lastly, Preston's _Unix_Backup_&_Recovery_ seems to be the only
good treatment of the subject.

Be well,
rir


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RE: Extremely small fonts

[J F]

 This edit will fix your problem:
root:/etc/kde3/kdm# diff Xservers Xservers.20041211
13c13
< :0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/X11R6/bin/X -nolisten tcp -dpi 100
---
> :0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/X11R6/bin/X -nolisten tcp

Kde is misdetecting the dpi of your monitor.  Override
autodetection by adding-dpi 100.

-J

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From: Matt Jerdonek [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2005 21:21:32 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Extremely small fonts

Hello,I'm pretty new to Debian / Linux.  I'm usingDebian-Sarge (stable) release along with X-window &KDE.  When I powered up my PC today, the fonts in allthe X-windows were so small to the point ofunreadable.  However, the icons and other graphicswere not affected.  Fortunately, I'm able to get intoa shell, so I can do some modifications.  But, cananyone tell me what file controls the fonts for X?BTW -- I don't know what caused this.  The only thingI can think of is that I changed the environment toturn on Num Lock when entering KDE.  After that I shutdown the system.Thanks,-- Matt		__ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com-- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]Join Excite! - http://www.excite.comThe most personalized portal on the Web!

Re: preferred method of using imap/mutt

[Cameron Matheson]

Hi,

Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:

The other things you want to do are easy and others will certainly 
comment on
how to accomplish them.  I want to point out that step 2 should not be 
handled
by mutt.  If you are the admin of the server, or you can convince the 
admin of
the server to it, install a suitable filtering program server side.  
The nice
thing about that is then you can connect with any IMAP client and they 
will all
se the mail pre-filtered.  If the server is running Cyrus IMAP, 
consider setting
up Seive.  If not, then procmail, mailfilter or maildrop will 
certainly suffice.

Personally, I like maildrop, but they are all similar enough.



Well, i am the administrator of the mail server, so i'm working on 
setting up maildrop now.  thanks to everyone for their suggestions.  The 
problem i'm trying to work around now is  that i'm using courier IMAP, 
where the users of the mail are not real users, they are virtual users 
found in an MySQL table (or some are also in courier's proprietary 
userdb file).  As such, the users don't have individual home directories 
(maildir's are all stored in /home/vmail).  I've been reading through 
the maildrop manpage and it looks like you can do system-wide 
/etc/courier/maildroprc file, or you can have a ~/.maildroprc.  Now 
would it be possible to change that so that it's a .maildroprc in the 
Maildir? or how would this be done w/ virtual accounts?


Thanks,
Cameron Matheson


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Re: Moved to sarge: Great, but no sound!

[Louis Woods]

Hendrik Boom wrote:


On Tue, Oct 04, 2005 at 08:50:59PM +0300, klkl lklk wrote:
 


Hi all,
i've recently moved from my beloved woody to sarge:Sarge IS GREAT!
When i was using woody,my sound driver was called ens-1371 (
Well, i was quite happy that ssarge had autodetected and loaded the correct
alsa driver with kernel 2.6
(On bootup it says:
Loaded ens-1371 successfully)
Here comes my issue:
In GNOME,KDE,X AND console there's no error about sound, just no sound.
I changed all the file permissions in /dev/snd to be readable and writable
to anyone. But there's no sound! Ex. When I use the
GNOME volume adjuster, it resets to 0 alone after i've pulled it up!
Please Help!
Thank you in advance!
   




I found a few things that helped get sound working.

(1) run alsa-config, assuming you're using also, of course.
   Sometime I had to rerun it every time I rebooted.
(2) If you are running alsa, make sure you do *not* have any OSS drivers
   around.  They can be blacklisted, or not installed, or whatever.
   Alsa's OSS emulator is OK, though.
(3) When I upgraded to etch, the problems came back until I installed
   udev, discover, and hotplug.  These jountly seemed to recognise all
   my hardware correctly and set up /dev.  You probably don't need
   hotplug for sound, though (it recognised USB things).  I mention
   it because I installed it at the same time, and you never know --
   there might have been some arcane interaction.

-- hendrik


 


I just got sound working on my desktop. I first installed the following 
packages:

1) alsa-base
2) alsa-oss
3) alsa-utils

I didn't install any alsa-modules as I am running 2.6.12 kernel.

After I installed these packages i ran the command "alsaconf"; I first 
thought the command is "alsa-config", however, that didn't work, 
"alsaconf" did.


Now my only problem is that (same as above) I have to rerun alsaconf 
everytime I reboot. Any solutions to how this can be fixed would be grand.


Above it was mentioned to install "discover". When attempting to do so 
apt wants to remove "discover1". What is the difference between 
"discover" and "discover1"?


Thanks,
Louis


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Re: migrating users from redhat to debian without changing their passwords

[Andrew M.A. Cater]

On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 02:49:03AM -0700, Radhika wrote:
> Hi,
>  
> 
>   Presently we are migrating from redhat linux webserver to debian 3.1 
> webserver so we need to get the all usernames and passwords need to move to 
> debian 3.1 webserver so that users can login using their same usernames and 
> passwords.
>  
>  How do we do this.One option is copy the shadow file in to debian and next 
> how to proceed.
>  
>  My main aim is without creating all usernames and passwords again in debian 
> linux how to deal with this problem
>  
>  Please help me with the solution for this
>  
> Best Regards
> 
Check carefully: I know that Debian starts its "real users" at user id
500,501,502 ... . I'm not sure if Redhat uses the same numbering.

If you are not careful, you get "real users" under RedHat which are
"system/daemon users" under Debian or vice versa.
Type shadowconfig off on the RedHat box - that leaves you with
everything in /etc/passwd file.  Migrate that. Edit as appropriate.

It might be worth adding the users under Debian anyway - if there
aren't too many - so that you get them in a sequence you want.

I copied across /home by (in /home) 

tar -pcvf oldhome.tar ./* 

then copying it to /tmp on the other box, changing to /home
and typing 

tar -pxvf /tmp/oldhome.tar

Odd user and group id's can be resolved with a recursive ownership
change.

chown -R [user]:[group] [name of directory to change]

so (for example)

chown -R andycater:users andycater

Any odd groups / users will show up as unmatched numeric values when
you do a ls -al on /home in this scenario.

Then you just type

id [user] 

to get their uid/gid on the new box and do the chown trick as above.

HTH,

Andy


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Re: WiFi Problems (It doesn't work properly)

[Derek Broughton]

David R. Litwin wrote:

> I have but the "central computer" (the one to which the router is
> connected) and the laptop.

OK, and your directly connected computer is working?  Is it running Linux or
Windows?  If it's working, we know that DHCP is working properly on the DSL
router, and it's correct that it should appear as the DNS IP.

> 192.168.2.1  is the "Router IP Address". This is from
> the advanced page from http://mynetwork, some thing the Bell installation
> C. D. created.

OK, so that's the _internal_ address of the router.  

> an Ethernet Cable directly to the Router / Modem. This worked with
> normalcy (id est, every thing was coming in at the normal speed).
> 
> Before we try anything else tell us:
>>
>> A) Make & Model of your DSL modem
> 
> Siemens SpeedStream 6525 Router / Modem. This is not some thing one can
> buy; it came as a gift from Sympatico.

You're not kidding.  Siemens seems to have closed it's whole home networking
line.  Are you sure of that model number?  Are you sure it's wireless? 
(Sorry, but one has to ask!)  

Plug the system you're having trouble with into the router with an ethernet
cable, make sure you have a connection.  Then do:

route
cat /etc/resolv.conf
cat /var/lib/dhcp*/*.leases 

(for dhclient3 it's actually /var/lib/dhcp3/dhclient.leases, but it depends
which client you're using - that should get most of them).

Then try to connect wirelessly and do the same.  Compare the results.  They
should be exactly the same except for the metric & iface columns in the
"route" output, the actual IP issued in the lease, and the interface the
lease is for.

If you don't get an IP at all wirelessly, then try: "dhclient ath0" (or
whatever the wireless iface is) and report back.
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Amusing pdf print puzzle

[Thomas H. George]

From a website I selected a financial document which Mozilla opened 
with xpdf.  The screen display was perfect but it could not be printed, 
that is, the file was apparently sent to the printer but nothing 
happened.  Using lynx localhost:631 Manage Jobs I found the job listed 
as completed but aborted.  Upon restart  Cups reported 
client-error-not-possible.


Next I asked xpdf to print to a file and found it created two documents: 
a.pdf and a.ps.  gv failed to open the a.ps file although it could open 
the Cups testprint.ps file with no trouble and the printer had no 
trouble printing it.  I tried OpenOffice which could open both a.pdf and 
a.ps but as raw files - i.e. showing all the postscript formating 
instructions as well as the text content.  Somewhere in the process the 
a.pdf file was deleted.


Next, from plugindoc.mozdev.org, I found and downloaded and installed 
the Adobe plugin.   I went back to the website and again selected the 
document.  Now Mozilla opened it as a blank page.  After I deleted the 
new plugin, restarted Mozilla, went back to the website and selected the 
financial document Mozilla again would open it with xpdf but it still 
could not be printed.


Finally I used acroread (which had been installed as part of the 
installation of the plugin) to open and print a.pdf which it did with no 
difficulty.


Summary:
  
   xpdf can open the document for screen display and write it to a 
file but gv cannot read the file.


  The Adobe plugin cannot properly display the document (blank 
screen) but acroread can open the pdf file created by xpdf, display it 
and send it in approriate form for printing.


All this may be stale news but I am reporting it as it was new to me and 
it took me some time to find a way to print a document I needed and 
could display on the screen.


Tom George



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Re: Synaptic Package Manager vs. RPM

[Paul E Condon]

On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 09:35:37AM -0700, Jeremy Merritt wrote:
> I started using Debian in the past 2 months after using another Linux distro 
> for a long time. The other distro relies on RPM for its package management, 
> with the consequence of the user having to go through "dependency hell" on a 
> regular basis. I have been amazed at the size of the Synaptic Package 
> repository and how seamless it integrates with Debian. Also, I have noticed 
> that some other distros, presumably built on Debian technology, use the same, 
> or a similar, system for package management.
>  
> What makes Synaptic different from RPM in "concept"?

As already stated, you really mean to ask what makes .deb packages different 
from .rpm?

A very important difference is that .deb packages comply with Debian policy for 
placement
of files on disk ("a place for everything and everything in its place"). Look 
for the
document of Hierarchical File Structure on the Debian web site. Alien trys to 
make some
corrections but can't really handle all cases of muddle headedness that occur 
in .rpm
packages.

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SetGID bit on directories

[C. Chad Wallace]

Hello,

We have a directory on an NFS mount that we want to be writable by members of a specific group, 
"pubcorpwrite".  So I did "chgrp pubcorpwrite" on the directory and all files 
and directories within it, and set the setgid bit on the directory and all its subdirectories 
because I thought this would force all files and directories created within to maintain that group.

To quote "info coreutils":
 2. set the process's effective group ID to that of the file upon
execution (called the "setgid bit").  For directories on some
systems, put files created in the directory into the same group as
the directory, no matter what group the user who creates them is
in.

Anyhow, someone just recently created a file there, and it was created with his primary group, instead of "pubcorpwrite".  


The quote above says it only works "on some systems..."  Is Debian one such 
system?  If not, is there any way with NFS to get all files created in this directory to 
be in a certain group?  I know this could be done with Samba... but we're not currently 
using Samba.

Thanks!
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Re: finishing touches

[Kumar Appaiah]

On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 03:47:13PM +, Dr Gavin Seddon wrote:
> 2). How do I change my background (I deleted the shortcut)?

I know this one... wmsetbg.

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Re: Synaptic Package Manager vs. RPM

[Kumar Appaiah]

On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 09:35:37AM -0700, Jeremy Merritt wrote:
> I started using Debian in the past 2 months after using another
> Linux distro for a long time. The other distro relies on RPM for its
> package management, with the consequence of the user having to go
> through "dependency hell" on a regular basis. I have been amazed at
> the size of the Synaptic Package repository and how seamless it
> integrates with Debian. Also, I have noticed that some other
> distros, presumably built on Debian technology, use the same, or a
> similar, system for package management.
> 
> What makes Synaptic different from RPM in "concept"?

The package management system (apt* and dpkg) are better at handling
dependencies than *some* (read most) other distributions' correspnding
tools.

> Can you manage any packages via RPM in Debian? I saw there was some kind of 
> RPM utility but I never worked with it much.

alien converts other package formats, including RPMs, to
debs. However, it is recommended that you consider it a last resort,
and stick to reliable debs.

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Re: Synaptic Package Manager vs. RPM

[Steve Block]

On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 05:39:43PM +0100, Thomas Adam wrote:


--- Jeremy Merritt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


What makes Synaptic different from RPM in "concept"?


The question you're really asking is:

"What makes .deb different from .rpm in concept."

... because Synaptic is just a GUI-frontend.  The tools behind it
(dpkg, and friends) do all the real work.



Can you manage any packages via RPM in Debian? I saw there was some
kind of RPM utility but I never worked with it much.


There's "alien", but you shouldn't need it, and I wouldn't recommend
you use it on any critical packages you're going to need to install. 
I'd be surprised if there wasn't a .deb file of an RPM already in

existance, for most packages.


It should also be noted that alien converts the RPM package to a .deb
package that can be installed with dpkg, and therefore be managed by the
package system. You can install packages directly via rpm sometimes but
I wouldn't recommend it, since they will not be registered with the
debian package system.

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where are the testing CD?

[belahcene abdelkader]

Hi,
I am looking for the weekly testing release (I only
found the official sarge ).
thanks for help
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Re: Serial lockup during smp boot [Sarge]

[Alexey Lobanov]

Hello.

On 06/10/05 02:24, Svein Seldal wrote:

> Hi.
> 
> I'm running getty. Still, if I remove the getty on ttyS0, the result
> remains the same. The lockup occurs somewhere after init has started (as
> previously) and remains until init 2 is run (when the syslogd/klogd
> kicks in).
> 
> I am willing to bet on interrupt problems. As it seems, 16 bytes is
> exactly the size of the HW FIFO of the motherboard. An input character
> triggers the serial interrupt handler, which in turn discoveres that
> there is more data to be transmitted and starts the uart tx. However,
> the mechanism for filling the FIFO when it becomes empty again, seems to
> fail. - But this is only my educated guess / theory.
> 
> BTW /proc/interrupts looks like this:
>   CPU0   CPU1
> 4:368   0   IO-APIC-edge serial
> 
> Another strange behaviour is that I've seen console output during the
> 16-byte-output-per-input-character period that are normal. I can for
> example sit and press space slowly and see the 16 byte progress. But
> then suddenly the "e100: eth0: e100_watchdog: link up, 100Mbps,
> full-duplex" message shoots out at once!

Did you try to disable this e100? Not to load the module.

> But I have to keep pressing a
> key in the serial console to continue the "normal" boot sequence.
> 
> Is there some settings, like APIC or similar, to the kernel, than can be
> used to control how the interrupts are handled?

I know the following places to play with:

- BIOS settings for "PnP OS installed": enable or disable

- Kernel load parameters: acpi_irq_balance, acpi_irq_nobalance, pci=
{usepirqmask,  routeirq, etc}... See your
/usr/src/linux/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt

- Driver initialization and load order. Unfortunately, a good text
regarding this issue is Russian, but you may try Babel.
http://www.citforum.ru/open_source/hard_irq/

A.L.


> 
> 
> Svein
> 
> 
> Alexey Lobanov wrote:
> 
>> Hello.
>>
>> Two ideas.
>>
>> 1. What program is bound to ttyS0 in inittab? *getty?  Nothing? What if
>> to change this (something to nothing or vice versa)?
>>
>> 2. Damned IBM PC interrupts?  It may be deja vue, but it seems me that I
>> had same effect in Novell server 10 years ago; the reason was incorrect
>> combination of interrupts in multiple ISA network cards.
>> /proc/interrupts, dmesg?
>>
>> Alexey
>>
>> On 05/10/05 22:35, Svein Seldal wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Hi.
>>>
>>> I have some strange problems during boot of my system:
>>>
>>> I'm running stable (Sarge) with kernel-image-2.6.7-2-686 plus ditto-smp.
>>> I have a Intel machine with a Intel P4 (family 15, model 4) @3GHz. I
>>> have 1G of memory. My SATA HDD's are running software RAID-1 with LVM
>>> (but that's probably irrelevant of this error).
>>>
>>> I'm running serial console as the main console. Hence this line is found
>>> in by grub config: "kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.8-2-686-smp
>>> root=/dev/mapper/System-Root vga=0x31A console=ttyS0,38400 ro"
>>>
>>> If I boot my -smp kernel with this config, the serial console output
>>> (and boot process) locks up after a while. It boots the kernel, starts
>>> userspace apps as expected. It locks up approx. when its doing EXT3FS
>>> mounts. The machine is then apparently dead, nothing more happens.
>>> However, if I then type any charater in my serial console, it will then
>>> output the next 16 bytes of the serial console output. Press a key, and
>>> new 16 charaters from the console output are retured. And it will keep
>>> on doing this until init 2 is run (apparently until the syslogd and
>>> klogd are started)
>>>
>>> This behaviour is not observed when I use the tty0 as console, neither
>>> when I boot the non-smp kernel. Nor does it lockup on shutdown.
>>>
>>> Does anyone know about this "feature"? Is this something to submit a
>>> bugreport about?
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Svein Seldal
>>>
>>>
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Re: Synaptic Package Manager vs. RPM

[Thomas Adam]

--- Jeremy Merritt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> What makes Synaptic different from RPM in "concept"?

The question you're really asking is:

"What makes .deb different from .rpm in concept."

... because Synaptic is just a GUI-frontend.  The tools behind it
(dpkg, and friends) do all the real work. 

> Can you manage any packages via RPM in Debian? I saw there was some
> kind of RPM utility but I never worked with it much.

There's "alien", but you shouldn't need it, and I wouldn't recommend
you use it on any critical packages you're going to need to install. 
I'd be surprised if there wasn't a .deb file of an RPM already in
existance, for most packages.

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Synaptic Package Manager vs. RPM

[Jeremy Merritt]

I started using Debian in the past 2 months after using another Linux distro for a long time. The other distro relies on RPM for its package management, with the consequence of the user having to go through "dependency hell" on a regular basis. I have been amazed at the size of the Synaptic Package repository and how seamless it integrates with Debian. Also, I have noticed that some other distros, presumably built on Debian technology, use the same, or a similar, system for package management.
 
What makes Synaptic different from RPM in "concept"?
 
Can you manage any packages via RPM in Debian? I saw there was some kind of RPM utility but I never worked with it much.
 
Thanks for any input.
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finishing touches

[Dr Gavin Seddon]

I have windowmaker to my satisfaction, now.  Finally,
1). What is the command to reset the desktop clock (I have lost it)?
2). How do I change my background (I deleted the shortcut)?
3).  Is there a working logout/shutdown button for it?
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Re: drm and radeon module load problems

[Lubos Vrbka]

Yes. It is really weird, that you had it in the .config but there was
absolutely nothing about the agp in the dmesg!?

From your trials it seems that the module gets laoded and your chipset
is supported by the kernel, so everything should be ok from the AGP
point of view. Also I think it means that agp_try_unsupported=1 would
not help in your case.
as i wrote before, i already built new kernel with iommu enabled and agp 
included in the kernel. as soon as it will be possible to reboot i'll 
check it out...



If you have the IOMMU or the AGP support compiled in the kernel, you
should get an error if you try to force modprobe to load the agp module.

My grep -i agp /usr/src/linux/.config has
CONFIG_AGP=y
CONFIG_AGP_AMD64=y
# CONFIG_AGP_INTEL is not set
and grep -i iommu /usr/src/linux/.config 
# CONFIG_GART_IOMMU is not set

CONFIG_DUMMY_IOMMU=y

I.e. no IOMMU and AGP compiled into the kernel.
dmesg |grep -i agp gives:
Linux agpgart interface v0.101 (c) Dave Jones
agpgart: Detected AGP bridge 0
agpgart: AGP aperture is 256M @ 0xd000

with module i've something similar.


When I start X, the drm and, in my case, mga get loaded automatically.
in my case, fglrx, amd64_agp and agpgart get loaded automatically. no 
drm is present there... actually, should it be there? for some 
mysterious reason, the hw acceleration works now (and it was the reason 
why i started playing with the kernel...)


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RE: Desktop icons, bottom bar to switch desktops is gone from KDE

[J F]

 That fixed it.  Solved.
I guess that file got corruptted somehow?

I can now get konqueror to run without crashing by:cd ~/.kde/share/mimelnk/applicationrm octet-stream.desktop
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Re: Drivers for Adaptec aar-1420sa

[Michael Martinell]

On Wed, October 5, 2005 11:49 am, Michael Martinell wrote:
>
> Trying to install debian on a system that has 4 SATA drives connected to an
> Adaptec AAR-1420SA RAID card.
>
> I have looked at adaptec's site and have not found any drivers that will work
> with the kernel I am using.
>
> My kernel is 2.6.12.
>
> I have tried to install debian using the linux26 option on the cd as well as
> using the net install floppies.
>
> I am pretty much out of ideas, can anyone provide any suggestions as to how to
> make this work?
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Just a follow up if anybody out there is pondering my question.  I can see
these terrabyte arrays in MS-DOS, OS/2 Warp 4, Red Hat, Win 95, Win 2000 and
Win XP.

Why can't I see them with Debian?  I feel that I must be doing something
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Re: Debian ISO images of etch (testing)

[Daniel Garcia]

Hello Ron,

The computer where I want to install the system is not
conected to internet so I can not do a network
install. That is why I need the CDs with the whole
system.

Daniel

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> On Thu, 6 Oct 2005 01:15:09 -0700 (PDT)
> Daniel Garcia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Hello,
> > 
> > I saw in the debian pages that each week a testing
> ISO
> > image is done, but when I look for download it I
> can
> > not find it. What I find is:
> > 
> > debian-31r0a-i386-binary-1.jigdo07-Jun-2005
> 14:19 
> >  35K 
> > 
> > I find that at the page:
> > 
> >
>
http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/cd/jigdo-area/i386/
> > 
> > This image is a sarge image, not a etch image.
> Where
> > can I find the etch images?
> 
> http://www.debian.org/  
> Under the "Getting Debian" heading, look for
> "Network install"
> 
> http://www.debian.org/distrib/netinst
> Click on "Minimal CD"
> 
> http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/
> Click on the "Debian-Installer page" link.
> 
> http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/
>Click on the "CD images" link.
> 
> http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/daily/
> Choose your architecture.  I use x86, so...
> 
>
http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/daily/i386/
> Choose which day...
> 
>
http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/daily/i386/current/
> Business Card or Netinstall?
> 
>
http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/daily/i386/current/debian-testing-i386-businesscard.iso
> 
>
http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/daily/i386/current/debian-testing-i386-netinst.iso
> 
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Re: WiFi Problems (It doesn't work properly)

[David R. Litwin]

David, you have yet to properly describe your problem.
Some how, this does not surprise me. I have a very hard time writing E-mails.
> Now, cat /etc/resolv.conf gives this at College:>> search dawsoncollege.qc.ca > nameserver 
198.168.48.4 >> And this when at Home:>> search no-domain-set.bellcanada> nameserver 
192.168.2.1 >OK, the search statements mean nothing.  It's bogus, but all that does isappend a domain name if you try to use an unqualified host name.  IF you
have more than one machine on your home network, you might actually wantthat to say something else, otherwise it doesn't matter.I have but the "central computer" (the one to which the router is connected) and the laptop.
What is 192.168.2.1?  This is what people have been talking about, re: you
running your own DNS.  According to your system, this is the only DNSserver it talks to.  It's not one of Bell's servers, which are most likely:dns1.sympatico.ca.  1800IN  A   
204.101.251.1dns2.sympatico.ca.  1800IN  A   204.101.251.2
ns5.bellnexxia.net. 3600IN  A   209.226.175.236ns6.bellnexxia.net. 3600IN  A   
209.226.175.237192.168.2.1 _looks_ like a cable or wireless router.  If it was your DSLmodem, you would be working, so it isn't. :-)
192.168.2.1 is the "Router IP Address". This is from the advanced page from http://mynetwork, some thing the Bell installation C. D. created.
David R. Litwin wrote:> Here is what can be changed; what I think may be the problem.>>> *Home Networking modem IP Network*IP Address:IP Netmask:Default Gateway:> or Use WANHost Name: DHCP Server:EnableDisableStart IP Range: End IP
> Range: Default Gateway: or SelfDNS: or Use WANDomain Name:Lease Time> (mins): Requires a specified DNS or Infinite time> I hope every one can see that. If not, I'll type it out.I did get that in HTML form, but once is enough :-)
What on earth is it?  Did you forget to mention the little detail that thisis how you're configuring your wireless router, or do you not even _have_ awireless router?This is from  
Configure the Local Home Networking modem IP Network from Advanced Settings from Advanced from http://mynetwork. I have got a wireless router, which also doubles as a modem to the "central computer".
 I don't see anything in this long thread that even suggests you've tried to
make this connection through the ethernet connection on your wirelessrouter, which should be the first thing you try.Certainly I have (and I'm fairly sure I did mention it; but it matters not, yes?).  Before I had even gotten the driver for the wireless, I used an Ethernet Cable directly to the Router / Modem. This worked with normalcy (id est, every thing was coming in at the normal speed).
Before we try anything else tell us:A) Make & Model of your DSL modem
Siemens SpeedStream 6525 Router / Modem. This is not some thing one can buy; it came as a gift from Sympatico.
B) Make & Model of your Wireless routerIbid. C) How does B connect to A (if they're not a single unit)
The Modem and Router are indeed a single unit. D) What happens when you plug into your DSL modem
Every thing works at the normal speed. There is no internet problem.
E) What happens when you plug into your wireless router (if A & B aren't asingle unit)Ibid. I certainly hope that this can clear up some of the confusion. It is rather diff cult to describe all of this with out being able to show you precisely what the whole shebang looks like. My apologies if it is still incomprehensible: I encourage questions which can clarify!
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Re: WiFi Problems (It doesn't work properly)

[Derek Broughton]

David, you have yet to properly describe your problem.

> Now, cat /etc/resolv.conf gives this at College:
> 
> search dawsoncollege.qc.ca 
> nameserver 198.168.48.4 
> 
> And this when at Home:
> 
> search no-domain-set.bellcanada
> nameserver 192.168.2.1 
> 
OK, the search statements mean nothing.  It's bogus, but all that does is
append a domain name if you try to use an unqualified host name.  IF you
have more than one machine on your home network, you might actually want
that to say something else, otherwise it doesn't matter.

What is 192.168.2.1?  This is what people have been talking about, re: you
running your own DNS.  According to your system, this is the only DNS
server it talks to.  It's not one of Bell's servers, which are most likely:

dns1.sympatico.ca.  1800IN  A   204.101.251.1
dns2.sympatico.ca.  1800IN  A   204.101.251.2
ns5.bellnexxia.net. 3600IN  A   209.226.175.236
ns6.bellnexxia.net. 3600IN  A   209.226.175.237

192.168.2.1 _looks_ like a cable or wireless router.  If it was your DSL
modem, you would be working, so it isn't. :-)

David R. Litwin wrote:

> Here is what can be changed; what I think may be the problem.
> 
> 
> *Home Networking modem IP Network*IP Address:IP Netmask:Default Gateway:
> or Use WANHost Name: DHCP Server:EnableDisableStart IP Range: End IP
> Range: Default Gateway: or SelfDNS: or Use WANDomain Name:Lease Time
> (mins): Requires a specified DNS or Infinite time
> I hope every one can see that. If not, I'll type it out.

I did get that in HTML form, but once is enough :-)

What on earth is it?  Did you forget to mention the little detail that this
is how you're configuring your wireless router, or do you not even _have_ a
wireless router?

I don't see anything in this long thread that even suggests you've tried to
make this connection through the ethernet connection on your wireless
router, which should be the first thing you try.

Before we try anything else tell us:

A) Make & Model of your DSL modem
B) Make & Model of your Wireless router 
C) How does B connect to A (if they're not a single unit)
D) What happens when you plug into your DSL modem
E) What happens when you plug into your wireless router (if A & B aren't a
single unit)

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Re: perspectives on 32 bit vs 64 bit

[Raymond A. Meijer]

On Thursday 6 October 2005 16:21, Thomas Steffen wrote:

> This thead is not about Ubuntu advocacy, it is about problems users
> have with Debian amd64. If Ubuntu works better, than maybe it points
> toward the solution? I agree with Helge here: just as Ubuntu benefits
> tremendously from Debian, this could also go the other way round.

Maybe a new distribution should be created: Ubuntian. Or Debuntu, 
whichever sounds better :)


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Re: drm and radeon module load problems

[Simo Kauppi]

Sorry about the delay in my reply :( My ISP did something with the
address space and the ip-address, I had for a long time, changed to
something else. I really need to start working on a script which would
take care of the settings in the case where my ip-address changes...

On Wed, Oct 05, 2005 at 08:04:58PM +0200, Lubos Vrbka wrote:
> >Hmm, that is weird!
> yes, it is!
> 
> >Yes I think it is ok. Unfortunately I don't have any further info about
> >IOMMU, but the help for IOMMU says that it includes a driver for the AMD
> >Opteron/Athlon64 IOMMU, so I guess that you can have agp driver for AMD
> >on-CPU GART with or without IOMMU.
> ok, it's clear now.
> 
> >>i have via k8t890. i just realized that the kernel recognizes many 
> >>features that the last one missed... regarding the agp, it worked fine 
> >>with 2.6.11...
> >At least 2.6.14 has something for the K8T890. You can just `grep -i
> >k8t890 /usr/src/linux/drivers/char/agp/amd64-agp.c` to see if it is in
> >the 2.6.12.
> that file contains following "struct", so i guess it's ok
> /* VIA K8T890 */
> {
> .class  = (PCI_CLASS_BRIDGE_HOST << 8),
> .class_mask = ~0,
> .vendor = PCI_VENDOR_ID_VIA,
> .device = PCI_DEVICE_ID_VIA_3238_0,
> .subvendor  = PCI_ANY_ID,
> .subdevice  = PCI_ANY_ID,
> },
> 
> >If you have the agp compiled in the kernel, you pass a kernel parameter
> >during a boot.
> in case i don't have it in kernel for some reason (config surely had it
> enabled), it should complain at that point, right?
 
Yes. It is really weird, that you had it in the .config but there was
absolutely nothing about the agp in the dmesg!?

From your trials it seems that the module gets laoded and your chipset
is supported by the kernel, so everything should be ok from the AGP
point of view. Also I think it means that agp_try_unsupported=1 would
not help in your case.

> >If you use GRUB, edit the /boot/grub/menu.lst.
> i use lilo, but that's no problem, modification is easy...
> 
> >If you compile it as a module, just make a file into the
> >/etc/modprobe.d/ directory and add a line
> >options agpgart-amd64 agp_try_unsupported=1
> >e.g. `sudo echo "options agpgart-amd64 agp_try_unsupported=1"
> i'm not sitting in front of my box right now, but what if i change the
> config and try to build the agpgart as a module and force to load it?
> can it conflict with the code in the kernel, or would it just refuse to
> load?

If you have the IOMMU or the AGP support compiled in the kernel, you
should get an error if you try to force modprobe to load the agp module.

My grep -i agp /usr/src/linux/.config has
CONFIG_AGP=y
CONFIG_AGP_AMD64=y
# CONFIG_AGP_INTEL is not set
and grep -i iommu /usr/src/linux/.config 
# CONFIG_GART_IOMMU is not set
CONFIG_DUMMY_IOMMU=y

I.e. no IOMMU and AGP compiled into the kernel.
dmesg |grep -i agp gives:
Linux agpgart interface v0.101 (c) Dave Jones
agpgart: Detected AGP bridge 0
agpgart: AGP aperture is 256M @ 0xd000

256M is the size of the aperture (from the BIOS settings)

When I start X, the drm and, in my case, mga get loaded automatically.

> might this be some kind of kernel bug?
> 
> thanks for help. regards,
> 
> -- 
> Lubos
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]"

If you haven't already checked the trouble shooting guide, have a look
at
http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/DriTroubleshooting

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Re: apt-get command help

[Raymond A. Meijer]

On Thursday 6 October 2005 15:41, Radhika wrote:

>  If i give apt-get install  it will install a package.I
> want to know this command will download first and then install which
> location it will download by default.

/var/cache/apt/archives


Ray


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Re: Debian ISO images of etch (testing)

[Ron Johnson]

On Thu, 6 Oct 2005 01:15:09 -0700 (PDT)
Daniel Garcia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> I saw in the debian pages that each week a testing ISO
> image is done, but when I look for download it I can
> not find it. What I find is:
> 
> debian-31r0a-i386-binary-1.jigdo07-Jun-2005 14:19 
>  35K 
> 
> I find that at the page:
> 
> http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/cd/jigdo-area/i386/
> 
> This image is a sarge image, not a etch image. Where
> can I find the etch images?

http://www.debian.org/  
Under the "Getting Debian" heading, look for "Network install"

http://www.debian.org/distrib/netinst
Click on "Minimal CD"

http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/
Click on the "Debian-Installer page" link.

http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/
   Click on the "CD images" link.

http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/daily/
Choose your architecture.  I use x86, so...

http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/daily/i386/
Choose which day...

http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/daily/i386/current/
Business Card or Netinstall?

http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/daily/i386/current/debian-testing-i386-businesscard.iso

http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/daily/i386/current/debian-testing-i386-netinst.iso

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[Konrad Buczek]

Witam!
Mam problem z Linuxem. Po raz pierwszy instaluję linuksa. PO zakończeniu 
instalacji nie moge uruchomić X Window, wyświetla błąd w karcie grafiki: 
XFree86. Pytanie drugie: nie może załadować sterowników karty grafiki na innym 
kompie. Prosze o podpowiedź z wierszem poleceń jak to zmienić.


Zapraszamy na sesję naukową "Społeczeństwo
obywatelskie - nowe imię solidarności" 8 października w Gdańsku.
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Re: Sound on Opliplex GX150

[Chris Bannister]

On Mon, Oct 03, 2005 at 01:16:28PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> Thanks Chris for your suggetions. Windows did say there was a driver
> installed. I tried replacing this with the "Analog devices AD1885
> Integrated Audio" driver from the Dell website (the first one on the
> list when you put in Opliplex GX150 and Windows 2000). When that didn't
> work I switched back to Linux because I am more familiar with Linux
> than WIndows.

Did the "Analog devices AD1885 Integrated Audio" driver install ok in 
Windows?

Seems like a h/w prob if Windows says its ok but it still won't play.

Speakers in right plug?
Speakers ok in another computer?
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Re: No funciona la tecla Alt-Gr ni Alt

[Felipe Törnvall N .]

generalmente los ntbk tienen menos teclas q los 
teclados de wstation pero generalmente ese es el problema
 
saludos 
___Felipe Törnvall N.Linux User:400327

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  matxin 
  
  To: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org 
  
  Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 11:55 
  AM
  Subject: Re: No funciona la tecla Alt-Gr 
  ni Alt
  Ya esta solucionado.He cambiado 104 por 105 y he comentado 
  la del variant, ni con es ni con la funcionaba.Y ahora parece que funciona 
  todo.Gracias por tu ayuda.Saludos!!
  El día 6/10/05, Felipe 
  Törnvall N.  escribió:
  
la verdad que no porque yo el unico pc q tengo 
con entorno grafico es mi notebook. y me funciona asi... uizas cambia 
104 por 105 y la variant pon "la"  yo creo q podrias probar por poner 
105 avisame como te va con eso.
 
saludos !!!
___Felipe Törnvall N.Linux 
User:400327

  - 
  Original Message - 
  From: 
  matxin 
  To: 
  xx 
  
  Sent: 
  Thursday, October 06, 2005 11:23 AM
  Subject: 
  Re: No funciona la tecla Alt-Gr ni Alt
  
  El día 6/10/05, Felipe Törnvall N.  
  escribió: 
  
ve xorg:
 
en el InputDevice te vas al 
teclado
 
XkbRules "xorg"

XkbModel "pc104"
XkbLayount "es"
XkbVariant  comentala con #
 
Espero que te sirva
  Gracias por tu ayuda, pero no ha sido suficiente, ahora la tecla 
  Alt funciona (antes tampoco me funcionaba), pero no la Alt-Gr. Se os 
  ocurre algo?? 
  

SALUDOS!


  - 
  Original Message - 
  From: 
  matxin 
  To: 
  xx 
  
  Sent: 
  Thursday, October 06, 2005 10:57 AM
  Subject: 
  No funciona la tecla Alt-Gr ni Alt
  Hola listeros, Acabo de instalar debian etch en un 
  pc y despues de instalar las X, gnome y poner todo en castellano me he 
  dado cuenta que no funcionan ni la tecla Alt ni Alt-Gr.He pensado 
  que podrían ser las locales, pero la ñ y todas las demas teclas están 
  en su sitio. He hecho dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg poniendo varias 
  opciones en el teclado, y no consigo nada. He googleado y combrobado 
  que tengo xlibs instalado.Alguna ayuda por ahi???Eskerrik 
  asko!!-- Erabili software askea, aske egiten 
  gaitu!!!. -- Erabili software askea, aske egiten gaitu!!!. 
  -- 
  Erabili software askea, aske egiten gaitu!!!. 

migrating users from redhat to debian without changing their passwords

[Radhika]

Hi,
 
  Presently we are migrating from redhat linux webserver to debian 3.1 webserver so we need to get the all usernames and passwords need to move to debian 3.1 webserver so that users can login using their same usernames and passwords.
 
 How do we do this.One option is copy the shadow file in to debian and next how to proceed.
 
 My main aim is without creating all usernames and passwords again in debian linux how to deal with this problem
 
 Please help me with the solution for this
 
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Re: module psmouse missing on boot, mouse doesn't work.

[Andreas Janssen]

Hello

Søren Christensen (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:

> On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 10:12:03AM +0200, Andreas Janssen wrote:

>> All the 2.4 kernels have the psmouse driver compiled into the kernel,
>> not as an external module. That is why the module is not there and
>> cannot be loaded. Do you have an PS/2 or an USB mouse?
>> 
> I have a PS/2 mouse, but it's connected via a switch (two computers
> share mouse, keyborad and screen).
> 
> If the psmouse-module is compiled into the kernel, why then does it
> look for it as a module on boot?

I don't know. Probably because you can install both using 2.4 and 2.6
and because there were some problems using 2.6 and the psmouse module
not being loaded. Adding psmouse to /etc/modules probably seemed to be
the easiest way.

> Now I handle the problem this way:
> 
> After boot, when gdm has started and the mouse-pointer is frozen in
> the middle of the screen, I swtich to a console and do this as root:
> # /etc/init.d/gpm stop
> # /etc/init.d/gdm stop
> # /etc/init.d/gpm start
> # /etc/init.d/gdm start
> 
> then the mouse has come alive!

Honestly I don't know what the problem is. You should check the dmesg
output befor and after restarting gdm.

best regards
Andreas Janssen

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Re: preferred method of using imap/mutt

[Roel Schroeven]

Cameron Matheson wrote:
> 2. mutt filters the mail into folders based on certian rules (mailing
> lists, etc.)

I've never done this, but from the description it looks like imapfilter
can do it:

$ apt-cache show imapfilter
Package: imapfilter
Priority: optional
Section: mail
Installed-Size: 148
Maintainer: Francesco Paolo Lovergine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Architecture: i386
Version: 1:1.0.1-2
Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-4), liblua50 (>= 5.0.2-5), liblualib50 (>=
5.0.2-5), libssl0.9.7
Filename: pool/main/i/imapfilter/imapfilter_1.0.1-2_i386.deb
Size: 32268
MD5sum: f55085969e0a9f42061314679a38c87b
Description: filter mail in your IMAP account
 Imapfilter is a client application that allows you to
 filter mail in your imap mail account. When used in
 conjunction with mutt, as your precommand, it allows
 you to have your mail sorted into imap folders.


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Re: module psmouse missing on boot, mouse doesn't work.

[Søren Christensen]

On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 10:12:03AM +0200, Andreas Janssen wrote:
> Hello
> 
> Søren Christensen (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:
> > On Wed, Oct 05, 2005 at 12:44:11PM -0400, Bill Marcum wrote:
> >> On Tue, Oct 04, 2005 at 11:30:54AM +0200, Søren Christensen wrote:
> >>
> >>> I've had some troubles with my mouse, after most reboots it
> >>> wouldn't work, only after some (>1) dpkg-reconfigure
> >>> xserver-xfree86 and reboots and stopping and restarting gdm several
> >>> times, it would come to life.
> >>> 
> >>> During a reboot now i just saw this message:
> >>> ide-detect ide-disk psmouse modprobe: can't locate module psmouse
> >>> 
> >>> I think that is the fault. Where do I find that module, and how can
> >>> I make it a part of my installation.
> >>> 
> >> Did you compile your own kernel?  If not, the psmouse module should
> >> be in /lib/modules/[version]/kernel/drivers/input/mouse/psmouse.ko
> >> If you can't find it there, you may need to reinstall kernel-image or
> >> linux-image.
> >> 
> > I use a stock-kernel (2.4.27-386)
> 
> All the 2.4 kernels have the psmouse driver compiled into the kernel,
> not as an external module. That is why the module is not there and
> cannot be loaded. Do you have an PS/2 or an USB mouse?
> 
I have a PS/2 mouse, but it's connected via a switch (two computers
share mouse, keyborad and screen).

If the psmouse-module is compiled into the kernel, why then does it look
for it as a module on boot?

Now I handle the problem this way:

After boot, when gdm has started and the mouse-pointer is frozen in the
middle of the screen, I swtich to a console and do this as root:
# /etc/init.d/gpm stop
# /etc/init.d/gdm stop
# /etc/init.d/gpm start
# /etc/init.d/gdm start

then the mouse has come alive!

/Søren


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Re: mysql installation

[Felipe Törnvall N .]

Solucion 1
#safe_mysqld &
#mysql
#mysql_install_db
#chown -R mysql.mysql /var/lib/mysql
#safe_mysqld &


Solucion 2
#mysql_install_db
#exit
/#etc/rc.d/rc.mysqld start

Solucion 3
# mysql_install_db
# chown -R mysql.mysql /var/lib/mysql



[EMAIL PROTECTED] napisał(a):
> My MySQL installation does not have a mysql.sock
> file(it is not anywhere in my system).So,when I
> try to connect to the mysql server the connection
> fails.My Debian system when starting shows that
> mysql server is starting,when stopping shows that
> mysql server is stopping.The installation was done
> with aptitude.

In the default debian mysql instalation, server creates socket in
/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock


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Re: module psmouse missing on boot, mouse doesn't work.

[Andreas Janssen]

Hello

Søren Christensen (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 05, 2005 at 12:44:11PM -0400, Bill Marcum wrote:
>> On Tue, Oct 04, 2005 at 11:30:54AM +0200, Søren Christensen wrote:
>>
>>> I've had some troubles with my mouse, after most reboots it
>>> wouldn't work, only after some (>1) dpkg-reconfigure
>>> xserver-xfree86 and reboots and stopping and restarting gdm several
>>> times, it would come to life.
>>> 
>>> During a reboot now i just saw this message:
>>> ide-detect ide-disk psmouse modprobe: can't locate module psmouse
>>> 
>>> I think that is the fault. Where do I find that module, and how can
>>> I make it a part of my installation.
>>> 
>> Did you compile your own kernel?  If not, the psmouse module should
>> be in /lib/modules/[version]/kernel/drivers/input/mouse/psmouse.ko
>> If you can't find it there, you may need to reinstall kernel-image or
>> linux-image.
>> 
> I use a stock-kernel (2.4.27-386)

All the 2.4 kernels have the psmouse driver compiled into the kernel,
not as an external module. That is why the module is not there and
cannot be loaded. Do you have an PS/2 or an USB mouse?

best regards
Andreas Janssen

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Re: Dell inspiron 4100... custom kernel install

[James Gibbon]

On 10/6/05, James Gibbon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 10/6/05, James Gibbon <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 10/5/05, Felipe Törnvall N. <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:








En español
 
haber si entiendo bien tu problema es en el momento 
de la instalacion de debian ??? lo haces con la imagen que viene por defecto 
???
Apesadumbrado, mi español es muy malo
Mi problema no es la instalación.  Mi problema está con el Kernel.
Necesito un nuevo kernel para el proceso de la instalación

James




Apesadumbrado, Debo haber dicho que necesito un kernel en la ISO
debian. mi sistema es inestable demasiado trabajar encendido

Translated to english:

My kernel issues have nothing to do with a bad installation.  I
need to create a custom kernel and stick it onto a Debian iso for
re-installation of the base system. The kernel has made my laptop too
unstable to recompile a kernel without crashing.

James

Nevermind.  I got it figured out on my own.  Thanks anyways
James 

Re: mysql installation

[Mariusz Kruk]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] napisał(a):

My MySQL installation does not have a mysql.sock
file(it is not anywhere in my system).So,when I
try to connect to the mysql server the connection
fails.My Debian system when starting shows that 
mysql server is starting,when stopping shows that

mysql server is stopping.The installation was done
with aptitude.


In the default debian mysql instalation, server creates socket in 
/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock



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Debian ISO images of etch (testing)

[Daniel Garcia]

Hello,

I saw in the debian pages that each week a testing ISO
image is done, but when I look for download it I can
not find it. What I find is:

debian-31r0a-i386-binary-1.jigdo07-Jun-2005 14:19 
 35K 

I find that at the page:

http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/cd/jigdo-area/i386/

This image is a sarge image, not a etch image. Where
can I find the etch images?

Thank you
Daniel



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Re: Dell inspiron 4100... custom kernel install

[James Gibbon]

On 10/6/05, James Gibbon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 10/5/05, Felipe Törnvall N. <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:








En español
 
haber si entiendo bien tu problema es en el momento 
de la instalacion de debian ??? lo haces con la imagen que viene por defecto 
???
Apesadumbrado, mi español es muy malo
Mi problema no es la instalación.  Mi problema está con el Kernel.
Necesito un nuevo kernel para el proceso de la instalación

James




Apesadumbrado, Debo haber dicho que necesito un kernel en la ISO
debian. mi sistema es inestable demasiado trabajar encendido

Translated to english:

My kernel issues have nothing to do with a bad installation.  I
need to create a custom kernel and stick it onto a Debian iso for
re-installation of the base system. The kernel has made my laptop too
unstable to recompile a kernel without crashing.

James

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[Technica]

Здравствуйте, хотим предложить Вам обменяться ссылками с проектом www.technica-m.ru - Technica - M - Измерительные приборы.
Наш тИЦ=230, сайт находится в Yandex каталоге, PR главной страницы 4. Ваши ссылки будут
размещены в нашем каталоге ссылок.
 
Наш код:
 
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Re: module psmouse missing on boot, mouse doesn't work.

[Søren Christensen]

On Wed, Oct 05, 2005 at 12:44:11PM -0400, Bill Marcum wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 04, 2005 at 11:30:54AM +0200, Søren Christensen wrote:
> > Hi, 
> > 
> > I've had some troubles with my mouse, after most reboots it wouldn't
> > work, only after some (>1) dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 and reboots
> > and stopping and restarting gdm several times, it would come to life.
> > 
> > During a reboot now i just saw this message:
> > ide-detect ide-disk psmouse modprobe: can't locate module psmouse
> > 
> > I think that is the fault. Where do I find that module, and how can I
> > make it a part of my installation.
> > 
> Did you compile your own kernel?  If not, the psmouse module should be in
> /lib/modules/[version]/kernel/drivers/input/mouse/psmouse.ko
> If you can't find it there, you may need to reinstall kernel-image or 
> linux-image.
> 
I use a stock-kernel (2.4.27-386)

/lib/modules/2.4.27-386/kernel/drivers/input/ does not contain a dir
called mouse, only 6 object-files: *.o (evdev, input, joydev, keybdev,
mousedev, uinput)

But if i don't rebuild the kernel, will it then help to reinstall the
kernel-image? That is, is the part 'sourced' under boot?

/Søren


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