Re: ext3 journal

2005-12-27 Thread Dennis Stosberg
David Dawson wrote:

> How does one locate the ext3 journal?

The journal is hidden from the user.  It is not a file that you can
locate.  You can, however, locate the journal inode:

$ dumpe2fs /dev/hda1 | grep Journal
dumpe2fs 1.37 (21-Mar-2005)
Journal inode:8

> In particular I want to be able to for example, remount the partition as
> ext2, secure-delete the journal, fsck if required, and remount as ext3.

What is your goal?  You can always mount a cleanly unmounted ext3
file system as ext2. 

You can disable the journal (== convert the file system to ext2)
with tune2fs:  

$ tune2fs -O ^has_journal /dev/hda1

This will also free the journal inode.

Regards,
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ext3 journal

2005-12-27 Thread David Dawson
How does one locate the ext3 journal?
In particular I want to be able to for example, remount the partition as
ext2, secure-delete the journal, fsck if required, and remount as ext3.
Is this feasible?
And if so, where exactly is the journal?
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Re: Linux or K3B issue???

2005-12-27 Thread Kent West
Chinook wrote:

> In my trials today I've had no problem creating and restoring a data
> CD,  but I can't get K3B to do anything with DVDs.

>
> ==
> The "Writing" window basically says:
>
> i  Starting writing...
> x   :-(  /dev/hdd: unable to proceed with recording: unable to unmount


Looks like KDE is perhaps automounting the DVD (which seems odd,
assuming blank DVDs are blank/unformatted - but I'm unfamiliar with
burning DVDs).

What's the output of "mount" after you've inserted a DVD for burning?

Also, is /dev/hdd really your DVD?

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Linux or K3B issue???

2005-12-27 Thread Chinook
As a rule I think multiple list posting is inappropriate, but after 
posting the following on kde-linux it seems to me that the problem may 
be with the hardware setup in my Debian installation.  So I thought I'd 
at least ask if you-all could note any details regarding what to look 
for in my optical hardware configuration?


Thank you for your patience,
Lee C


kde-linux post
==
So you understand I'm at the early learning stage:
In the last several days I've expunged MS from the PC on my LAN and 
installed Debian.  Being very happy with my Mac, I went with KDE to 
allow a somewhat similar desktop.


Now it's time to backup what I've done before I screw it up  :-)   so I 
also installed K3B to use optical media.  In my trials today I've had no 
problem creating and restoring a data CD,  but I can't get K3B to do 
anything with DVDs.  I've tried DVD-R and DVD-RW, and even different 
brands of each (Verbatim, hp and imation).  I hate to use umpteen CDs 
when one or two DVDs will do the trick  :-(


I have a Benq 32x10x40 CD R/W in an internal bay (hdc) and a Pioneer 
DVD-RW DVR-103 in another internal bay (hdd).  If I load a DVD with 
contents, K3B lists what is on it and if I load a blank DVD it says it 
knows that also.


I don't know if this is a linux issue or a K3B issue and I'm not sure 
where to go from here.   The applicable errors noted are below.


Any suggestions would be welcome.

Thank you,
Lee C

==
The "Writing" window basically says:

i  Starting writing...
x   :-(  /dev/hdd: unable to proceed with recording: unable to unmount
x  Fatal error at startup: Device or resource busy

and the debug output says:

Devices
---
PIONEER DVD-RW  DVR-103 1.90 (/dev/hdd, ) at /media/cdrom1 [CD-R; CD-RW;
CD-ROM; DVD-ROM; DVD-R] [Error] [SAO; TAO]
ATAPI CD-R/RW 32X10 T.GA (/dev/hdc, ) at /media/cdrom0 [CD-R; CD-RW; 
CD-ROM]

[Error] [SAO; TAO; RAW; SAO/R16; RAW/R96R]

System
---
K3b Version: 0.11.20
KDE Version: 3.3.2
QT Version:  3.3.4
Kernel:  2.4.27-2-386

growisofs
---
umount: /media/cdrom1: device is busy
umount: /media/cdrom1: device is busy
 :-(  /dev/hdd: unable to proceed with recording: unable to unmount

growisofs comand:
---
/usr/bin/growisofs -Z /dev/hdd -use-the-force-luke=notray
-use-the-force-luke=tty -use-the-force-luke=dao -dvd-compat -speed=1 -gui
-graft-points -volid K3bDVDtest -volset  -appid K3B THE CD KREATOR VERSION
0.11.20 (C) 2003 SEBASTIAN TRUEG AND THE K3B TEAM -publisher  -preparer 
K3b -

Version 0.11.20 -sysid LINUX -volset-size 1 -volset-seqno 1
-sort /tmp/kde-leec/k3butIiJb.tmp -rock
-hide-list /tmp/kde-leec/k3bjS0Ldc.tmp -full-iso9660-filenames
-disable-deep-relocation -iso-level 2 -path-list 
/tmp/kde-leec/k3bzxeW8b.tmp

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Re: Fresh CD images

2005-12-27 Thread David E. Fox
On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 15:58:24 +0100
Marco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Anyone knows if the weekly cd/dvd images (testing branch) will be soon
> updated?
> The ones available for download were released on 12-Dec-2005...

They should be updated once a week. I suspect that's delayed a little
while. I've seen it happen before.

You could just get the latest CD or DVD image and use that as a jumping
off point to start gettting newer versions of packages to install, but
still use the CD or DVD as a source. That's what I've elected to do. 

> Marco
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no kde apps in etch (complains about not new enough)

2005-12-27 Thread Rodney D. Myers
I'm running etch, and use a few KDE apps.

Just recently, I've tried using the latest releases of Tellico, &
kwrite, from the shell I am getting these error messages, and pop up
windows that state;

---pop up window---
Could not find mime type
application/octet-stream
---pop up window---

from the shell;

tellico
kio (KSycoca): WARNING: Found version 75, expecting version 79 or
higher. kio (KSycoca): WARNING: Outdated database found
kio (KSycoca): WARNING: Found version 75, expecting version 79 or
higher. kio (KSycoca): WARNING: Outdated database found
KCrash: Application 'tellico' crashing...

and 

kwrite
kio (KSycoca): WARNING: Found version 75, expecting version 79 or
higher. kio (KSycoca): WARNING: Outdated database found
kio (KSycoca): ERROR: No database available!
kio (KSycoca): ERROR: No database available!
kio (KSycoca): WARNING: Found version 75, expecting version 79 or
higher. kio (KSycoca): WARNING: Outdated database found
kio (KMimeType): WARNING: KServiceType::offers : servicetype
KTextEditor/Plugin not found

kwrite does open, and is somewhat useable. I also noticed that k3b will
not install right now either.


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Re: [Fwd: Re: Keeping a Window Maximized]

2005-12-27 Thread Leonid Grinberg
Sorry for not providing this information (I wrote this message a while
back but nobody replied and I forgot to include the information this
time around)

I am using GNOME on Debian Testing, with window manager Metacity (I
had used Sawfish for a while but I ended up preferring Metacity). I
obtained Firefox from the Debian package, version 1.0.7



Re: Running Debian on P166 MMX, 2 gig HDD laptop

2005-12-27 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 21:36:03 -0500, [KS] wrote in message 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> J Merritt wrote:
> > I recently installed Debian on an old Dell Latitude XPi. Because of
> > limitations of the system, I had to forego booting from CD and

..if it cannot be set to boot off the cd from a bios setting, put
smartbootmanager on a disk it _can_ boot from, and use the 
tab menu or ^h (or ^i?) to find and boot the cd.  The sexy way 
is put grub on the HD, if it won't chainload whatever you try 
booting, borrow memdisk from syslinux and use that as "kernel", 
and put the "no-way-chainloader" as initrd.  ;o)

> > instead create boot and driver diskettes on floppy and load a
> > netstat CD to get the base install done. I installed a minimal set
> > of packages including kde-base, amarok, mozilla, and a few others
> > via aptitude. The installation took up only about 50% of the drive,
> > actually less I think. The install was a success and Debian seems to
> > "like" this machine pretty well.
> > 
> > Anyway, every time I boot up from GRUB, it goes straight to the
> > login prompt, and once you login, you're left at the command line. I
> > am used to the autoboot sequence where it goes directly to the GUI
> > login screen and you just load KDE or Gnome or whatever environment
> > you want. In this case, I am trying to load KDE and have had no
> > success.

..you probably wanna use Fluxbox and xdm, booting into kde-3.4.1 eats
20% juice in 20 minutes on one of my Thinkpad 760EDs, p133 on 48MB.

> > What steps do I need to take to get this to work?
> > 
> 
> apt-get install (gdm or kdm or xdm)
> 
> installing an x-display-manager should do the trick of automatically
> taking you into gui mode after bootup.

..you might need a wee look at /etc/inittab.

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[Fwd: Re: Keeping a Window Maximized]

2005-12-27 Thread kamaraju kusumanchi

Forwarding your message to the list as others might find this info useful
raju

 Original Message 
Subject:Re: Keeping a Window Maximized
Date:   Tue, 27 Dec 2005 22:15:30 -0500
From:   Leonid Grinberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: kamaraju kusumanchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
References: 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
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Sorry for not providing this information (I wrote this message a while
back but nobody replied and I forgot to include the information this
time around)

I am using GNOME on Debian Testing, with window manager Metacity (I
had used Sawfish for a while but I ended up preferring Metacity). I
obtained Firefox from the Debian package, version 1.0.7



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Re: Running Debian on P166 MMX, 2 gig HDD laptop

2005-12-27 Thread J Merritt
> > Anyway, every time I boot up from GRUB, it goes straight to the login prompt, and once you login, you're left at the command line. I am used to the autoboot sequence where it goes directly to the GUI login screen and you just load KDE or Gnome or whatever environment you want. In this case, I am trying to load KDE and have had no success.> > What steps do I need to take to get this to work?> "[KS]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:apt-get install (gdm or kdm or xdm)installing an x-display-manager should do the trick of automaticallytaking you into gui mode after bootup.OK, I tried that and it boots up saying, "Starting K Display Manager: kdm." at the end of the boot sequence. Then it goes to the login, no K display manager. I log in and then su, then
 run kdm again, and it just sits. What am I missing?
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Re: OT - power off probs

2005-12-27 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 27 December 2005 21:49, Piers Kittel wrote:
>Sorry - I didn't count the PSU fan :/  The PSU does have its own
> built in fan.  The spare 350watter has 2 built in fans.
>
>Also, it's proprietary so I doubt it'd be easy to find a replacement
> PSU.
>
>But it strikes me strange, the board starts powering off as soon as I
>swopped over the 2 systems - why didn't it start happening with the
> old system?  Because the old system didn't draw as much power?
>
>Cheers - Piers
>
Oops, sorry Piers, I just replied to the duplicate in my inbox.
I asked Piers to describe the psu cable<->motherboard connectors so I 
can see if they're like my big std stuff.

>Gene Heskett wrote:
>> On Tuesday 27 December 2005 20:12, Piers Kittel wrote:
>>>Even tho it's only about a year old?
>>
>> A year old psu can have 4 oz of dust bunnies in it, completely
>> blocking any air flow.  This user said there was only one fan, the
>> one on the cpu.
>>
>> Now, I've never seen although there may well be, an example of a
>> fanless psu, but at 240 watts rated, & say 95% efficiency (thats
>> being very very charitable BTW, most are hard put to make 90%) then
>> thats still 12 watts of heat to get rid of by whatever means.  With
>> no fan that assumes good radiant efficiency, and good thermal
>> condutivity to the outside world else something is going to get too
>> hot to work.  And once an overheat has shut one of these things
>> down (if its not a catastrophic shutdown where the magic smoke
>> comes out) then whatever caused the shutdown is going to become
>> ever more sensitive to over temps, turning itself into a nuisance
>> rather quickly.
>>
>> With decent psu's being commodity items, carefull shopping will buy
>> you a case of 24 300 watters from the pacific rim people at less
>> than a $20 bill each including shipping.  I usually go for the even
>> bigger stuffs, 450-600 watts rated because they'll have 2 fairly
>> quiet, ball bearing rated fans in them, often thermostaticly
>> controlled & running easy, and will last for many years.  But they
>> ALL will benefit from an annual blow job administered by a 100+ psi
>> air hose.  That one point will extend their working life by 3 to 10
>> times depending on how much dust they manage to trap.
>>
>> Who am I to sound like an expert when I don't even have a
>> briefcase? Just a semi-retired old fart who's been chasing
>> electrons for a living since about 1948.  The last 21 years as the
>> CE at a TV station here in WV.  Semi-retired because I'm still
>> doing it part time.

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Re: Keeping a Window Maximized

2005-12-27 Thread kamaraju kusumanchi

Leonid Grinberg wrote:


Hello,

I usually keep my Firefox window maximized fully when browsing and all
other windows non-maximized (xterm, emacs, etc). However, recently, I
have noticed that if I open a new tab in Firefox, it unmaximizes the
window. If I maximize it again it seems to work for a little while but
not for long. Also, if I log out or even lock the screen, the problem
returns?

Any ideas?
 

Which window manager are you using? Which distribution 
(stable/testing/unstable)? How did you install firefox (from firefox's 
website or debian package)? Which version of firefox?


That being said, on my machine, mozilla-firefox 1.0.7 pulled from 
unstable under KDE environment does not have this problem.


raju


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RE: Running script within chroot jail (OT)

2005-12-27 Thread Michael Bellears
> 
> On Wed, Dec 28, 2005 at 12:09:20PM +1000, Michael Bellears wrote:
> 
> > Hoping someone can point me in the right direction as to 
> how I would 
> > translate the above into a shell script, as my mediocre 
> attempt fails:
> 
>   You were so close!  You need to run "chroot /path /command"
>  (As you can see if you run "man chroot".)
> 
>   eg:
> 
> --
> #!/bin/sh
> chroot /var/chroot/apache/ 
> /usr/local/awstats/tools/awstats_updateall.pl now
> --

Dammit! Thanks - Worked perfectly.

Regards,
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Re: OT - power off probs

2005-12-27 Thread Piers Kittel
Sorry - I didn't count the PSU fan :/  The PSU does have its own built 
in fan.  The spare 350watter has 2 built in fans.


Also, it's proprietary so I doubt it'd be easy to find a replacement PSU.

But it strikes me strange, the board starts powering off as soon as I 
swopped over the 2 systems - why didn't it start happening with the old 
system?  Because the old system didn't draw as much power?


Cheers - Piers

Gene Heskett wrote:

On Tuesday 27 December 2005 20:12, Piers Kittel wrote:


Even tho it's only about a year old?



A year old psu can have 4 oz of dust bunnies in it, completely blocking 
any air flow.  This user said there was only one fan, the one on the 
cpu.


Now, I've never seen although there may well be, an example of a 
fanless psu, but at 240 watts rated, & say 95% efficiency (thats being 
very very charitable BTW, most are hard put to make 90%) then thats 
still 12 watts of heat to get rid of by whatever means.  With no fan 
that assumes good radiant efficiency, and good thermal condutivity to 
the outside world else something is going to get too hot to work.  And 
once an overheat has shut one of these things down (if its not a 
catastrophic shutdown where the magic smoke comes out) then whatever 
caused the shutdown is going to become ever more sensitive to over 
temps, turning itself into a nuisance rather quickly.


With decent psu's being commodity items, carefull shopping will buy you 
a case of 24 300 watters from the pacific rim people at less than a 
$20 bill each including shipping.  I usually go for the even bigger 
stuffs, 450-600 watts rated because they'll have 2 fairly quiet, ball 
bearing rated fans in them, often thermostaticly controlled & running 
easy, and will last for many years.  But they ALL will benefit from an 
annual blow job administered by a 100+ psi air hose.  That one point 
will extend their working life by 3 to 10 times depending on how much 
dust they manage to trap.


Who am I to sound like an expert when I don't even have a briefcase?
Just a semi-retired old fart who's been chasing electrons for a living 
since about 1948.  The last 21 years as the CE at a TV station here in 
WV.  Semi-retired because I'm still doing it part time.





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Re: OT - power off probs

2005-12-27 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 27 December 2005 20:12, Piers Kittel wrote:
>Even tho it's only about a year old?
>
A year old psu can have 4 oz of dust bunnies in it, completely blocking 
any air flow.  This user said there was only one fan, the one on the 
cpu.

Now, I've never seen although there may well be, an example of a 
fanless psu, but at 240 watts rated, & say 95% efficiency (thats being 
very very charitable BTW, most are hard put to make 90%) then thats 
still 12 watts of heat to get rid of by whatever means.  With no fan 
that assumes good radiant efficiency, and good thermal condutivity to 
the outside world else something is going to get too hot to work.  And 
once an overheat has shut one of these things down (if its not a 
catastrophic shutdown where the magic smoke comes out) then whatever 
caused the shutdown is going to become ever more sensitive to over 
temps, turning itself into a nuisance rather quickly.

With decent psu's being commodity items, carefull shopping will buy you 
a case of 24 300 watters from the pacific rim people at less than a 
$20 bill each including shipping.  I usually go for the even bigger 
stuffs, 450-600 watts rated because they'll have 2 fairly quiet, ball 
bearing rated fans in them, often thermostaticly controlled & running 
easy, and will last for many years.  But they ALL will benefit from an 
annual blow job administered by a 100+ psi air hose.  That one point 
will extend their working life by 3 to 10 times depending on how much 
dust they manage to trap.

Who am I to sound like an expert when I don't even have a briefcase?
Just a semi-retired old fart who's been chasing electrons for a living 
since about 1948.  The last 21 years as the CE at a TV station here in 
WV.  Semi-retired because I'm still doing it part time.

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Re: Running Debian on P166 MMX, 2 gig HDD laptop

2005-12-27 Thread [KS]
J Merritt wrote:
> I recently installed Debian on an old Dell Latitude XPi. Because of 
> limitations of the system, I had to forego booting from CD and instead create 
> boot and driver diskettes on floppy and load a netstat CD to get the base 
> install done. I installed a minimal set of packages including kde-base, 
> amarok, mozilla, and a few others via aptitude. The installation took up only 
> about 50% of the drive, actually less I think. The install was a success and 
> Debian seems to "like" this machine pretty well.
> 
> Anyway, every time I boot up from GRUB, it goes straight to the login prompt, 
> and once you login, you're left at the command line. I am used to the 
> autoboot sequence where it goes directly to the GUI login screen and you just 
> load KDE or Gnome or whatever environment you want. In this case, I am trying 
> to load KDE and have had no success.
> 
> What steps do I need to take to get this to work?
> 

apt-get install (gdm or kdm or xdm)

installing an x-display-manager should do the trick of automatically
taking you into gui mode after bootup.

HTH,
/ks


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Running Debian on P166 MMX, 2 gig HDD laptop

2005-12-27 Thread J Merritt
I recently installed Debian on an old Dell Latitude XPi. Because of limitations of the system, I had to forego booting from CD and instead create boot and driver diskettes on floppy and load a netstat CD to get the base install done. I installed a minimal set of packages including kde-base, amarok, mozilla, and a few others via aptitude. The installation took up only about 50% of the drive, actually less I think. The install was a success and Debian seems to "like" this machine pretty well.Anyway, every time I boot up from GRUB, it goes straight to the login prompt, and once you login, you're left at the command line. I am used to the autoboot sequence where it goes directly to the GUI login screen and you just load KDE or Gnome or whatever environment you want. In this case, I am trying to load KDE and have had no success.What steps do I need to take to get this to work?Thanks in advance.JM
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Re: new install

2005-12-27 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 19:32:04 +0100
Paolo Pantaleo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 2005/12/27, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > Hi!
> >
> > I have now Etch on my system but i want to reinstall with reiser file
> > system.
> If you  have GRUB you could:
> 1) back up partition
> 2) format with reiserFS
> 3) restore partition
> 
> > Is it possible that I choose KDE and not GNOME, which is default?
> Yes you can choose KDE, using tasksel -> desktop (or something
> similar) you get gnome, but isntalling kdedesktop (i hope to be right)
> package you get a KDE system "out of the box"

with 'Desktop' task you should already have both installed (at least in sarge 
you do). All you need is choose session at the login screen

> > Default kernel is 2.6.12-386. Is it possible to install 2.6.14-686?
> Yes... simply install the appropriate package

That kernel is still in unstable. Read the apt docs for how to run a mixed 
system. Do you REALLY NEED this, as it can get dangerous?

You have been warned!

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Keeping a Window Maximized

2005-12-27 Thread Leonid Grinberg
Hello,

I usually keep my Firefox window maximized fully when browsing and all
other windows non-maximized (xterm, emacs, etc). However, recently, I
have noticed that if I open a new tab in Firefox, it unmaximizes the
window. If I maximize it again it seems to work for a little while but
not for long. Also, if I log out or even lock the screen, the problem
returns?

Any ideas?

Leonid



Running script within chroot jail (OT)

2005-12-27 Thread Michael Bellears
Hi,

I've got a shell script that I need to run(Via cron) from within a
chroot jail (/var/chroot/apache)

>From command line, I can do the following:

# chroot /var/chroot/apache/
/# cd /usr/local/awstats/tools/ 
/usr/local/awstats/tools# ./awstats_updateall.pl now

Hoping someone can point me in the right direction as to how I would
translate the above into a shell script, as my mediocre attempt fails:

# cat awstats_cron.sh 
#!/bin/sh
chroot /var/chroot/apache/ -I
/usr/local/awstats/tools/awstats_updateall.pl now
exit

# ./awstats_cron.sh 
bash-2.05b#

Regards,
MB



Re: Subscription

2005-12-27 Thread Andrew Sackville-West



Gene Heskett wrote:

On Wednesday 21 December 2005 13:00, Solis, Mirna wrote:


Good morning.



At risk of being flamed for top posting, I have to ask if you really, 
truely, intended to send this to the debian-user mailing list.  It 
really, truely has nothing to do with your problem that I can conjure 
up.


I've been biting my tongue on this one for days. heh heh heh. and now 
she's bumping it...


A



Back in october, I sent you a subscription requisition under Saul
Orbezo's name attaching the credit card information for the payment,
but I did not receive the invoice for this subscription.  Would you,
please, send it to me?



Please send it to the following address:



Andrew Corporation

5801 George McVay drive

McAllen, Tx. 78503.

Attn. Mirna Solis.



Ph. #: 011528999091630

Fax #. 011528999091655



Please confirm.



Thanks in advance.



Mirna Solis.



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Re: (no subject)

2005-12-27 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 23:46:33 -0600
Steve Block <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Sat, Dec 24, 2005 at 01:11:42AM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> >On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 08:20:55 -0600
> >Steve Block <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> On Thu, Dec 22, 2005 at 07:49:12PM -0600, Tatsuya Kobayashi wrote:
> >> ># help
> >> 
> >> I don't think I can.
> >> 
> >> -- 
> >> Steve Block
> >> http://ev-15.com/
> >> http://steveblock.com/
> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >Don't be so mean, he apologized!
> 
> I wasn't being mean, just telling the truth. :-)
> 
> Sorry, sometimes I get a little strange on the list.

I think i understand why. I'm pretty new to the list and already get a bit 
annoyed by some "posters" (like the one with the "test")
Sorry, who am i to correct you?

Andrei


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Re: OT - power off probs

2005-12-27 Thread Piers Kittel

Even tho it's only about a year old?

Thanks!

Regards - Piers

Raul wrote:

Piers Kittel wrote:


Hello all,

Am having a problem with my computer not quite relevant to the list 
(but it runs Debian hey... ;)) but not sure exactly where to ask so I 
guess this list is better than most.  This concerns my computer 
turning itself off occasionally and refusing to power on unless I move 
the "Reset CMOS" jumper with the power lead in - it won't work if I 
move the jumper without the lead plugged in.


Anyway.  Setup is a Slot 1 motherboard with a P3 666MHz at 133MHz FSB 
processor, with 256 meg RAM on a single stick, Geforce MX4000 graphics 
card and an Intel PCI network card.  It also has a floppy drive and 
runs 1 fan - the CPU fan.  No hard drive, no optical drives, or 
anything else.


I decided to swop 2 cases over - the above go into a nice case while 
some "server" (for small values of) hardware go into the ugly case.  
In the original cases, both computers works just fine.  The "server" 
is an EPIA MII 12000 motherboard with 2 x DVB tuners, a 200GB WD hard 
drive, 512MB RAM on a single stick, DVD RW drive.  It also runs 2 case 
fans and a CPU fan.


So the server stuff goes out of the nice case and into the ugly case, 
and the P3 666MHz stuff goes into the nice case.  The reason I do this 
is that the P3 stuff will be under my TV while the "server" stuff will 
be hidden away.  So I want to see a nice case rather than an ugly case 
 :)  The ceveat of the nice case is that it has a proprietary 240w ATX 
power supply.  The case is advertised to take Mini-ITX boards along 
with standard ATX boards.  I figured that without the hard drive or 
optical drive, or the dual tuners, the P3 stuff should use less leccy 
and the 240w PSU should be enough.


So.  Put the server stuff in the old case, and put the P3 stuff in the 
nice case.  Server works fine.  P3 stuff works fine, but turns itself 
off randomly - tho usually when something happens such as X starting, 
or starting to play a video, or even pressing a keyboard key.  It then 
refuses to start again - pulling the lead for a while, putting it back 
in, or removing the battery, or move the clear CMOS jumper, or push 
the on/off button - anything unless I leave the power lead and move 
the clear CMOS jumper and as soon as I take the jumper block off it 
boots up.  Then a few minutes later, powers itself off.


I took a spare 350w PSU and this problem doesn't occur.  I suppose 
this means the 240w PSU isn't up to the job?  If so, I'm rather 
surprised - how does the P3 board on its own overwhelm the 240w PSU 
while a mini-ITX board with everything on (firewire, PCMCIA slot, CF 
slot, TV out, VGA, sound, the whole works) and dual DVB tuners and 
hard drive use up less power?  Is that possible?  Is there any simple 
(heh) way to work out how much usage those 2 set ups draws from the PSU?


If this is the case, would getting a slot 1 motherboard with onboard 
sound and LAN help?  Or would I be wasting my time?  Or is it best to 
try and upgrade the PSU to 300w - the case comes in 2 options - 240w 
or 300w PSU - the latter wasn't available until recently.  I might try 
to get the company to sell me a 300w PSU.  But will the 300w PSU 
help?  Or is the board broken?  Very unlikely I know.


Thanks very much for your help in advance

Regards - Piers


IMHO The PSU is faulty  rather than power consumption or at least  that 
was the case in similar situations at my work. Old PSUs tend to 
accumulate dust inside them, and that occasionally generate short 
circuits which also tend to get faulty components and so on


However I also had a similar case with a faulty mobo also due to short 
circuits.


Regards





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Re: OT - power off probs

2005-12-27 Thread Raul

Piers Kittel wrote:


Hello all,

Am having a problem with my computer not quite relevant to the list 
(but it runs Debian hey... ;)) but not sure exactly where to ask so I 
guess this list is better than most.  This concerns my computer 
turning itself off occasionally and refusing to power on unless I move 
the "Reset CMOS" jumper with the power lead in - it won't work if I 
move the jumper without the lead plugged in.


Anyway.  Setup is a Slot 1 motherboard with a P3 666MHz at 133MHz FSB 
processor, with 256 meg RAM on a single stick, Geforce MX4000 graphics 
card and an Intel PCI network card.  It also has a floppy drive and 
runs 1 fan - the CPU fan.  No hard drive, no optical drives, or 
anything else.


I decided to swop 2 cases over - the above go into a nice case while 
some "server" (for small values of) hardware go into the ugly case.  
In the original cases, both computers works just fine.  The "server" 
is an EPIA MII 12000 motherboard with 2 x DVB tuners, a 200GB WD hard 
drive, 512MB RAM on a single stick, DVD RW drive.  It also runs 2 case 
fans and a CPU fan.


So the server stuff goes out of the nice case and into the ugly case, 
and the P3 666MHz stuff goes into the nice case.  The reason I do this 
is that the P3 stuff will be under my TV while the "server" stuff will 
be hidden away.  So I want to see a nice case rather than an ugly case 
 :)  The ceveat of the nice case is that it has a proprietary 240w ATX 
power supply.  The case is advertised to take Mini-ITX boards along 
with standard ATX boards.  I figured that without the hard drive or 
optical drive, or the dual tuners, the P3 stuff should use less leccy 
and the 240w PSU should be enough.


So.  Put the server stuff in the old case, and put the P3 stuff in the 
nice case.  Server works fine.  P3 stuff works fine, but turns itself 
off randomly - tho usually when something happens such as X starting, 
or starting to play a video, or even pressing a keyboard key.  It then 
refuses to start again - pulling the lead for a while, putting it back 
in, or removing the battery, or move the clear CMOS jumper, or push 
the on/off button - anything unless I leave the power lead and move 
the clear CMOS jumper and as soon as I take the jumper block off it 
boots up.  Then a few minutes later, powers itself off.


I took a spare 350w PSU and this problem doesn't occur.  I suppose 
this means the 240w PSU isn't up to the job?  If so, I'm rather 
surprised - how does the P3 board on its own overwhelm the 240w PSU 
while a mini-ITX board with everything on (firewire, PCMCIA slot, CF 
slot, TV out, VGA, sound, the whole works) and dual DVB tuners and 
hard drive use up less power?  Is that possible?  Is there any simple 
(heh) way to work out how much usage those 2 set ups draws from the PSU?


If this is the case, would getting a slot 1 motherboard with onboard 
sound and LAN help?  Or would I be wasting my time?  Or is it best to 
try and upgrade the PSU to 300w - the case comes in 2 options - 240w 
or 300w PSU - the latter wasn't available until recently.  I might try 
to get the company to sell me a 300w PSU.  But will the 300w PSU 
help?  Or is the board broken?  Very unlikely I know.


Thanks very much for your help in advance

Regards - Piers


IMHO The PSU is faulty  rather than power consumption or at least  that 
was the case in similar situations at my work. Old PSUs tend to 
accumulate dust inside them, and that occasionally generate short 
circuits which also tend to get faulty components and so on


However I also had a similar case with a faulty mobo also due to short 
circuits.


Regards


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Re: Running script within chroot jail (OT)

2005-12-27 Thread Steve Kemp
On Wed, Dec 28, 2005 at 12:09:20PM +1000, Michael Bellears wrote:

> Hoping someone can point me in the right direction as to how I would
> translate the above into a shell script, as my mediocre attempt fails:

  You were so close!  You need to run "chroot /path /command"
 (As you can see if you run "man chroot".)

  eg:

--
#!/bin/sh
chroot /var/chroot/apache/ /usr/local/awstats/tools/awstats_updateall.pl now
--

  Or for another example:
--
chroot /var/chroot/apache /etc/init.d/apache stop
--

  The command you run is specified in the *chroot* filesystem, rather
 than on the full system.  So "/usr/local" rather than
 "/var/chroot/apache/usr/local".

Steve
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OT - power off probs

2005-12-27 Thread Piers Kittel

Hello all,

Am having a problem with my computer not quite relevant to the list (but 
it runs Debian hey... ;)) but not sure exactly where to ask so I guess 
this list is better than most.  This concerns my computer turning itself 
off occasionally and refusing to power on unless I move the "Reset CMOS" 
jumper with the power lead in - it won't work if I move the jumper 
without the lead plugged in.


Anyway.  Setup is a Slot 1 motherboard with a P3 666MHz at 133MHz FSB 
processor, with 256 meg RAM on a single stick, Geforce MX4000 graphics 
card and an Intel PCI network card.  It also has a floppy drive and runs 
1 fan - the CPU fan.  No hard drive, no optical drives, or anything else.


I decided to swop 2 cases over - the above go into a nice case while 
some "server" (for small values of) hardware go into the ugly case.  In 
the original cases, both computers works just fine.  The "server" is an 
EPIA MII 12000 motherboard with 2 x DVB tuners, a 200GB WD hard drive, 
512MB RAM on a single stick, DVD RW drive.  It also runs 2 case fans and 
a CPU fan.


So the server stuff goes out of the nice case and into the ugly case, 
and the P3 666MHz stuff goes into the nice case.  The reason I do this 
is that the P3 stuff will be under my TV while the "server" stuff will 
be hidden away.  So I want to see a nice case rather than an ugly case 
 :)  The ceveat of the nice case is that it has a proprietary 240w ATX 
power supply.  The case is advertised to take Mini-ITX boards along with 
standard ATX boards.  I figured that without the hard drive or optical 
drive, or the dual tuners, the P3 stuff should use less leccy and the 
240w PSU should be enough.


So.  Put the server stuff in the old case, and put the P3 stuff in the 
nice case.  Server works fine.  P3 stuff works fine, but turns itself 
off randomly - tho usually when something happens such as X starting, or 
starting to play a video, or even pressing a keyboard key.  It then 
refuses to start again - pulling the lead for a while, putting it back 
in, or removing the battery, or move the clear CMOS jumper, or push the 
on/off button - anything unless I leave the power lead and move the 
clear CMOS jumper and as soon as I take the jumper block off it boots 
up.  Then a few minutes later, powers itself off.


I took a spare 350w PSU and this problem doesn't occur.  I suppose this 
means the 240w PSU isn't up to the job?  If so, I'm rather surprised - 
how does the P3 board on its own overwhelm the 240w PSU while a mini-ITX 
board with everything on (firewire, PCMCIA slot, CF slot, TV out, VGA, 
sound, the whole works) and dual DVB tuners and hard drive use up less 
power?  Is that possible?  Is there any simple (heh) way to work out how 
much usage those 2 set ups draws from the PSU?


If this is the case, would getting a slot 1 motherboard with onboard 
sound and LAN help?  Or would I be wasting my time?  Or is it best to 
try and upgrade the PSU to 300w - the case comes in 2 options - 240w or 
300w PSU - the latter wasn't available until recently.  I might try to 
get the company to sell me a 300w PSU.  But will the 300w PSU help?  Or 
is the board broken?  Very unlikely I know.


Thanks very much for your help in advance

Regards - Piers


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Re: Replacement suggestions for konsole, kate, kcalc

2005-12-27 Thread Richard Lyons
On Tuesday, 27 December 2005 at 18:06:36 -0200, Paulo Marcel Coelho Aragao 
wrote:
> Richard Lyons wrote on Dec, 27:
> 
> [...]
> 
> > > I've recently switched from KDE to Xfce and tracking this thread has been 
> > > very 
> > > useful. I also tried mrxvt. Excellent first impression but it limps in a 
> > > very 
> > > essential feature to my taste: it display ugly-looking glyphs for 
> > > line-drawing 
> > > characters when you use FreeType fonts and ncurses applications, such as 
> > > mutt, 
> > > aptitude or mc.  konsole, xfce4-terminal and urxvt handle this correctly.
> 
> > On my box, the line drawing in mutt and aptitude is perfect.  It is 
> > probably 
> > a font encoding issue.
> 
> Which font are you using for mrxvt ?

Sorry, I don't know.  It was just the default.  Same re the encoding --
I just got lucky.  Usually the locale-related things turn round and bite
me (because of en-GB), but this time it seems to be good.

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Xft, X Resources, TrueType Fonts

2005-12-27 Thread Adam Fabian
I can perfectly well start an xterm like this:

xterm -fa "Bitstream Vera Mono" -fs 10

And actually get the Bitstream Vera Mono font in the selected size.
But, xlsfonts and xfontsel don't show anything like this, and trying
something like:

XTerm*font: Bitstream Vera Mono

in my .Xresources gets me messages like:

xterm:  unable to open font "Bitstream Vera Mono", trying "fixed"

I've tried '' and "" as quotes around the font name, and didn't get
anywhere.  Does anyone know how I can specify a TrueType font in my
.Xresources file?


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Re: udev package and sysvinit

2005-12-27 Thread Florian Kulzer

Winton Roseland wrote:
I am running Knoppix from my hard drive with kernel 2.6.14.2 (I needed 
usb support for a recent model of linksys's usb200m that required a 
patch to asix.c in 2.6.14.2).  The problem I am having now is difficulty 
getting my usb camera to mount when I connect it.  So I installed udev 
that required initsripts.  The initscripts package tried to install 
/etc/init.d/checkfs.sh, but it is part of sysvinit package so apt-get 
will not install it.  My system says that hotplug is partially 
unistalled so I hate to shut down.  How can I correct this?


Uh-oh, are you mixing Debian Sid packages into a Knoppix-based
installation? This can cause trouble since Knoppix contains lots of
customizations and is therefore not fully compatible. Example:
checkfs.sh has been moved from package sysvinit to package initscripts
in Debian Sid, but obviously not in Knoppix. (If you are using some sort
of "pure" Knoppix repository - if such a thing exists - your problem is
a bug in Knoppix.)

There is a way to forcefully complete your installation of udev and
initscripts, but you have to understand that it might have adverse side
effects, depending how different the two versions of checkfs.sh are. You
can do the following, entirely at your own risk (please read the full
description before doing anything):

1) Make a backup copy of the presently installed /etc/init.d/checkfs.sh

2) As root do

dkpg --force-all -i /var/cache/apt/archives/initscripts_2.86.ds1-6_i386.deb

You may have to replace "initscripts_2.86.ds1-6_i386.deb" with the name
of the newest version of the package which exists in your
/var/cache/apt/archives directory. This will force the install by
overwriting the old version of /etc/checkfs.sh.

3) Now the rest of the installation can be completed by either "apt-get
install -f" or "aptitude upgrade -f". This should set up udev and remove
hotplug. If I remember correctly you will be asked to purge the config
files of hotplug yourself, watch out for the corresponding message
during the setup of udev.

4) Use diff to see if there are differences between the backup copy of
checkfs.sh and the newly installed version from package initscripts. If
the two versions are identical you are save. If there are differences I
have no way of knowing which version you should use and what the side
effects will be. This is the risky part of this procedure. If you want
to be careful you can use "dpkg-deb -x" on the initscripts*.deb file
in /var/cache/apt/archives: After extracting the new version of
checkfs.sh to some temporary directory you can compare the two versions
before you force the installation.

I hope this helps, but don't blame me if it doesn't.

Regards,
   Florian


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Re: ntpdate -> configuration

2005-12-27 Thread Glenn English
On Tue, 2005-12-27 at 22:55 +0100, Michael Przysucha wrote:

> I have a very unstable hw-clock and need to synchronize it every apx. 60 
> minutes to avoid differences of more than 20 
> sec. The given server (192.53.103.103) is up and running a ntp-service, 
> operated by the German PTB (compareable to 
> "time.gov") and offering a very accurate time (atomic-clock).

According to man ntpdate, all you need to do is specify the server as
the last argument to ntpdate on the command line. 

Man goes on to say that you could get cron to run ntpdate every so
often, but what you really need to do is run the ntp daemon (ntp-simple
debian package). 

There's a lot more to setting your clock accurately than the accuracy of
the server: Internet travel time, repeatability of the travel time, etc.

see http://www.pool.ntp.org/use.html

If you run ntpdate at boot to get in the ballpark, then run the ntp
daemon to zoom in on the correct time, your clock will be correct within
a few ms.

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Re: Replacement suggestions for konsole, kate, kcalc

2005-12-27 Thread Brad Sims
On Tuesday 27 December 2005 4:49 am, Paulo Marcel Coelho Aragao wrote:
> Excellent first impression but it limps in a very 
> essential feature to my taste: it display ugly-looking glyphs for 
> line-drawing 
> characters when you use FreeType fonts and ncurses applications, such as 
> mutt, 
> aptitude or mc.  konsole, xfce4-terminal and urxvt handle this correctly.

That sounds like a font encoding issue... 

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Re: Getting a list of installed packages

2005-12-27 Thread ke6isf
On Tue, 27 Dec 2005, J Merritt wrote:

> Is there a way to get a list of installed packages in Debian, preferably from 
> the command line and preferably in a text file?

COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l |awk '/^[hi]i/{print $2}'

This will generate a list of only the names of packages that are
installed.  I use this to back things up so that, in the event I need to
do a bare metal reinstall, I can just restore my sources.list, apt-get
update, and 'apt-get install 

Re: ntpdate -> configuration

2005-12-27 Thread John Hasler
Michael Przysucha writes:
> I have a very unstable hw-clock and need to synchronize it every apx. 60
> minutes to avoid differences of more than 20 sec.

I suggest that you install either chrony or ntp-simple.  They will take
care of your clock for you.
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Re: mcedit in X

2005-12-27 Thread Lubos Vrbka

mcedit in a text console uses Ins+Ctrl and Ins+Shift to copy and paste.

That does not work in X.

Anybody know a way around that?

don't know if i got your question right...

press shift while selecting the text to copy from the mcedit window 
(using the left mouse button). paste can be done using shift+middle 
mouse button. (i.e. standard X copy/paste, just add the shift key)


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Re: 3d acceleartion

2005-12-27 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 15:27:04 -0500, jlquinn wrote in message 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Mark Grieveson wrote:
> > Hello. Is it possible for me to enable 3d acceleration with the
> > hardware  I have? Right now, there is absolutely no 3d acceleration.
> > I feel that  if it was present, even though my hardware is old, I at
> > least would be  able to play PlanetPenguin-Racer (aka TuxRacer).
> > 
> > I have a Pentium III, 450 MHz system, running Debian Sarge with a 
> > 2.6.8-2-386 kernel image, 384 MB ram. My VGA compatible controller
> > is  ATI Technologies Inc 3D Rage Pro AGP 1X/2X (rev 5c), which I
> > believe is  also known as Mach64, with 8 MB. So, is the name "3D
> > Rage Pro" just a  lie, to en*rage* me?
> > 
> 
> You're not going to find what you're looking for by default.  Check
> out  the following page on the status of Mach64 support.
> 
> http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/ATIMach64?action=highlight&value=CategoryHardware
> 
> If you're savvy enough, you could build it and get 3d support. 

..define "savvy enough."  ;o)

..Mark will spare himself some grieving if he first verifies his
hardware _is_ a " 3D Rage Pro AGP 1X/2X (rev 5c)" and not 
a rebadged cheapo "3D Rage II+ AGP" etc, takes a wee 'lspci'.

.._if_ it is, and he's on a budget or somesuch, and finds something
scary enough to try fry this old junk on, I've got over half a dozen of
these 2 to 8MB agp cards, and a camera for the Happy New Year! ;o)

> Otherwise, you should pick up a newer video card that is already 
> supported.  Finding a supported 3d card shouldn't be very expensive. 
> There's plenty of older HW that will work out of the box such as older
>  radeons.

..I went this route.  ;o)

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Re: 3d acceleartion

2005-12-27 Thread Micha Feigin
On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 15:27:04 -0500
jlquinn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Mark Grieveson wrote:
> > Hello. Is it possible for me to enable 3d acceleration with the hardware 
> > I have? Right now, there is absolutely no 3d acceleration. I feel that 
> > if it was present, even though my hardware is old, I at least would be 
> > able to play PlanetPenguin-Racer (aka TuxRacer).
> > 
> > I have a Pentium III, 450 MHz system, running Debian Sarge with a 
> > 2.6.8-2-386 kernel image, 384 MB ram. My VGA compatible controller is 
> > ATI Technologies Inc 3D Rage Pro AGP 1X/2X (rev 5c), which I believe is 
> > also known as Mach64, with 8 MB. So, is the name "3D Rage Pro" just a 
> > lie, to en*rage* me?
> > 
> 

Either install the debian packages for xfree from dri.sf.net (check the
download section - three packages which include an xorg server which installs
over the xfree one and a package for kernel drivers) or install the xorg server
from unstable and then install the snapshots package from the same download
place. You will need the common and mach64 packages.

I used the first option originally which worked fine. I use the second one
currently for other reasons, with full scree 3d games I get some issues though
(acceleration is present but some triangles aren't being drawn for some reason,
didn't get around to find out the reason yet.

> You're not going to find what you're looking for by default.  Check out 
> the following page on the status of Mach64 support.
> 
> http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/ATIMach64?action=highlight&value=CategoryHardware
> 
> If you're savvy enough, you could build it and get 3d support. 
> Otherwise, you should pick up a newer video card that is already 
> supported.  Finding a supported 3d card shouldn't be very expensive. 
> There's plenty of older HW that will work out of the box such as older 
> radeons.
> 
> Jerry Quinn
> 
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Re: Getting a list of installed packages

2005-12-27 Thread Philippe Grenard
Le Mardi 27 Décembre 2005 21:53, J Merritt a écrit :
> Is there a way to get a list of installed packages in Debian, preferably
> from the command line and preferably in a text file?
>
>   Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
>
>   JM
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Hi,

dpkg --get-selections > pkg_list.txt



mcedit in X

2005-12-27 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Hi,

mcedit in a text console uses Ins+Ctrl and Ins+Shift to copy and paste.

That does not work in X.

Anybody know a way around that?

Thanks!

H


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Re: Getting a list of installed packages

2005-12-27 Thread Joris Huizer

Jaime Casanova wrote:

On 12/27/05, J Merritt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Is there a way to get a list of installed packages in Debian, preferably
from the command line and preferably in a text file?

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

JM




dpkg-query

i think it needs some options and redirect the output to a file


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this might do it too
dpkg -l "*"|grep ^i


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Re: Getting a list of installed packages

2005-12-27 Thread Steve Kemp
On Tue, Dec 27, 2005 at 12:53:46PM -0800, J Merritt wrote:
>Is there a way to get a list of installed packages in Debian, preferably
>from the command line and preferably in a text file?
> 
>Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

  To show all installed packages you can use the "dpkg" command, and
 then filter the list via grep to those that are installed.  (And not
 removed/purged).  To do this run:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ dpkg --list |grep ^ii

  You might find the package name is truncated, so can fix this
 by running:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ COLUMNS=200 dpkg --list |grep ^ii

  Finally if you just want to see the *name* of the package you can
 use awk to print that out alone.  This stops you from seeing the
 one-line package description too:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ COLUMNS=200 dpkg --list |grep ^ii | awk '{print $2}'

  If you wish this list to be in a file just use redirection:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ COLUMNS=200 dpkg --list |grep ^ii | awk '{print $2}' > 
list.txt

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Re: Getting a list of installed packages

2005-12-27 Thread Kjetil Kjernsmo
On Tuesday 27 December 2005 21:53, J Merritt wrote:
> Is there a way to get a list of installed packages in Debian,
> preferably from the command line and preferably in a text file?

Yup, you could do 
dpkg --get-selections | grep install > file.txt
or 
dpkg -l | grep ^ii > file.txt
depending on your needs. See also the dpkg manpage.

Cheers,

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Re: Getting a list of installed packages

2005-12-27 Thread Mike Bird
On Tue, 2005-12-27 at 12:53, J Merritt wrote:
> Is there a way to get a list of installed packages in Debian,
> preferably from the command line and preferably in a text file?

dpkg-query --show --showformat='${STATUS} ${PACKAGE} ${VERSION}
${ARCHITECTURE}\n'

(All on one line.)  You can write the output of this to a text file. 
You can drop some of the fields if you don't need them.

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Re: Getting a list of installed packages

2005-12-27 Thread Jaime Casanova
On 12/27/05, J Merritt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is there a way to get a list of installed packages in Debian, preferably
> from the command line and preferably in a text file?
>
> Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
>
> JM
>

dpkg-query

i think it needs some options and redirect the output to a file


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Re: [OT] printf format specifier

2005-12-27 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Felix C. Stegerman wrote:

On 2005-12-27 10:58:54, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

Hi,

I thought that %02.1f would print floating points as xx.x or 0x.x but it 
does not. It prints x.x or xx.x.

How do I ensure that there always are 2 digits before the floating point?


Try "%04.1f", since xx.x has length 4, not 2.

I must admit I overlooked that at first too ;-)



Thanks Felix!  That's it! Dumb of me!

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2005-12-27 Thread J Merritt
Is there a way to get a list of installed packages in Debian, preferably from the command line and preferably in a text file?     Thanks in advance for any suggestions.     JM
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Re: Connecting a Windows laptop to a Linux internal network

2005-12-27 Thread Ernst-Magne Vindal
On Tue, December 27, 2005 21:08, Arnt Karlsen said:
> On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 21:16:15 -0700, Ed wrote in message
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>>
>>
>> Hi There,
>>
>> I have an internal Linux network.  I want to add a Windows XP
>> Professional laptop to this network so that I can share files.  I am
>> using SAMBA on the Unix side and think I have the global and share
>> sections of smb.conf set up correctly, though maybe not.  I tried to
>> find the Linux system using DOS Command Net View and only found the
>> laptop, no Linux in site.  How have any of you made this type of
>> connection?  Microsoft.com was not any help at all.
>
> ..dunno Wintendo myself, and I don't use Samba.  But next time you
> call Microsoft for help, grab them by their balls so it hurts, before
> you
> give up: "Are you trying to tell me I cannot use Microsoft Windows???",
> "Can I quote you on Groklaw and the Letterman Show that I cannot use.."
> etc.  ;o)
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If samba is configured correct, there is no problem connecting from
windoze w2k or xp to linux's samba share and from linux to windoze.
So what do you do and not, which share are you not able to connect to,
from windoze to linux?
I think mabye you don't have the global and share section in smb.conf
setup correctlyjust a thought ...
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Re: 3d acceleartion

2005-12-27 Thread jlquinn

Mark Grieveson wrote:
Hello. Is it possible for me to enable 3d acceleration with the hardware 
I have? Right now, there is absolutely no 3d acceleration. I feel that 
if it was present, even though my hardware is old, I at least would be 
able to play PlanetPenguin-Racer (aka TuxRacer).


I have a Pentium III, 450 MHz system, running Debian Sarge with a 
2.6.8-2-386 kernel image, 384 MB ram. My VGA compatible controller is 
ATI Technologies Inc 3D Rage Pro AGP 1X/2X (rev 5c), which I believe is 
also known as Mach64, with 8 MB. So, is the name "3D Rage Pro" just a 
lie, to en*rage* me?




You're not going to find what you're looking for by default.  Check out 
the following page on the status of Mach64 support.


http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/ATIMach64?action=highlight&value=CategoryHardware

If you're savvy enough, you could build it and get 3d support. 
Otherwise, you should pick up a newer video card that is already 
supported.  Finding a supported 3d card shouldn't be very expensive. 
There's plenty of older HW that will work out of the box such as older 
radeons.


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Re: set-up for watching video

2005-12-27 Thread k l u r t

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On Tue, 27 Dec 2005, kangja wrote:


Thnaks for all the info provided. My worry about mplayer is that I have
come across warnings about its IPR infringement. Is that nothing to
worry about?


just out of curiosity, what kind of warnings about mplayer and ipr
infringements have you come across?

yes, there are some issues with some annoying proprietary codecs and
software patents (and there was that noncompliance with the GPL in
the past).

the debian project does not include mplayer because in the past they
believed it violated the licenses of some of its components (now believed
to be resolved??). they also cite patent concerns:

"software that can't be packaged"
http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/unable-to-package

  "mplayer reloaded"
http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2004/03/msg00235.html

   "re: mplayer / divx"
http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2001/08/msg00071.html

mplayer's key goal is "play as many different media types as possible,
especially those that otherwise can only be played on Windows Media Player
or Apple Quicktime". to me this seems like a perfectly valid approach
until native decoders can be worked out.

i'm not looking for a xine vs. mplayer war, i like and use them both, but
xine doesn't have a third of mplayer's features and the
mozilla-mplayer (mplayer-plugin) is a great solution for media streaming
with your browser.

i don't know what the copyright and patent laws are in your country, but
in oppressive countries like the USA we have the mplayer disclaimer to
keep in mind:
"There is absolutely no warranty of any kind for these codec packages.
Copyrights of all DLLs remain with their respective owner(s). You should
be aware that some of these DLLs have licenses that restrict them to use
with certain programs. We only distribute them, the rest is your
responsibility."


On Tue, 27 Dec 2005, kangja wrote:


Now that it is available from Debian, I think the issue is closed, as
far as I am concerned.


it is still not available as an "official" debian package. mplayer is 
still listed as "software that can't be packaged"- as i have mentioned above.


i think you are confused. the mplayer package that you are trying to 
install is the christian marillat package.


btw... please try not to "top post", i be getting confused.

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Re: Connecting a Windows laptop to a Linux internal network

2005-12-27 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 21:16:15 -0700, Ed wrote in message 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

>  
> 
> Hi There,
> 
> I have an internal Linux network.  I want to add a Windows XP
> Professional laptop to this network so that I can share files.  I am
> using SAMBA on the Unix side and think I have the global and share
> sections of smb.conf set up correctly, though maybe not.  I tried to
> find the Linux system using DOS Command Net View and only found the
> laptop, no Linux in site.  How have any of you made this type of
> connection?  Microsoft.com was not any help at all.

..dunno Wintendo myself, and I don't use Samba.  But next time you 
call Microsoft for help, grab them by their balls so it hurts, before
you
give up: "Are you trying to tell me I cannot use Microsoft Windows???",
"Can I quote you on Groklaw and the Letterman Show that I cannot use.."
etc.  ;o)

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Re: Replacement suggestions for konsole, kate, kcalc

2005-12-27 Thread Paulo Marcel Coelho Aragao
Richard Lyons wrote on Dec, 27:

[...]

> > I've recently switched from KDE to Xfce and tracking this thread has been 
> > very 
> > useful. I also tried mrxvt. Excellent first impression but it limps in a 
> > very 
> > essential feature to my taste: it display ugly-looking glyphs for 
> > line-drawing 
> > characters when you use FreeType fonts and ncurses applications, such as 
> > mutt, 
> > aptitude or mc.  konsole, xfce4-terminal and urxvt handle this correctly.

> On my box, the line drawing in mutt and aptitude is perfect.  It is probably 
> a font encoding issue.

Which font are you using for mrxvt ?

Paulo


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Re: Replacement suggestions for konsole, kate, kcalc

2005-12-27 Thread Richard Lyons
On Tuesday, 27 December 2005 at  8:49:59 -0200, Paulo Marcel Coelho Aragao 
wrote:
> Richard Lyons wrote on Dec, 27:
> 
> [...]
> 
> > Yes, this has been very useful: I like mrxvt too.  It avoids the problem
> > that some terminals have of trapping F10 so that you cannot easily get
> > out of mc.  On the other hand, it shares the other problem of being left
> > in reverse video when you do quit mc.  Still, that is transient and
> > scrolls away.
> 
> I've recently switched from KDE to Xfce and tracking this thread has been 
> very 
> useful. I also tried mrxvt. Excellent first impression but it limps in a very 
> essential feature to my taste: it display ugly-looking glyphs for 
> line-drawing 
> characters when you use FreeType fonts and ncurses applications, such as 
> mutt, 
> aptitude or mc.  konsole, xfce4-terminal and urxvt handle this correctly.

On my box, the line drawing in mutt and aptitude is perfect.  It is probably a 
font encoding issue.

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Re: dhcp client wifi setup

2005-12-27 Thread Richard Lyons
On Tuesday, 27 December 2005 at 15:34:19 +0100, Florian Kulzer wrote:
> Richard Lyons wrote:
> 
> [...]
> 
> >I found that too, and tried "modprobe ieee80211_crypt_wep" The module
> >loaded but the connection still obstinately failed.  I found two other
> >modules in /lib/modules/2.6.14-2-686/kernel/net/ieee80211/, namely
> >ieee80211_crypt_ccmp and ieee80211_crypt_tkip, so I modprobed them too,
> >but that did not help either -- I expect they are for hardware I do not
> >have anyway.
> 
> Well, I have one last suggestion to make: Check with lsmod if the
> orinoco driver is actually using the ieee80211 modules. On my laptop the
> relevant output looks like this:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ lsmod | grep ieee80211
> ieee80211_crypt_wep 4992  1
> ieee80211  23752  1 ipw2100
> ieee80211_crypt 5636  2 ieee80211_crypt_wep,ieee80211

Thanks, Florian.  Just to complete this story, before I move it to
debian-laptop, here is the corresponding output on the thinkpad 600E.
It does seem to indicate a disconnect between the orinoco and ieee80211
drivers.
  ...
  orinoco_cs13608  1
  orinoco   42804  1 orinoco_cs
  hermes 7552  2 orinoco_cs,orinoco
  pcmcia49732  6 hostap_cs,orinoco_cs
  ...
  ieee80211_crypt_wep4896  0
  ieee80211 23272  0
  ieee80211_crypt5252  3 hostap,ieee80211_crypt_wep,ieee80211
> ...

[...]
> 
> After looking at the 2.6.14 kernel sources I would suggest that you try
> to modprobe the following modules:
> 
> hermes; these three
> orinoco   ; were already
> orinoco_cs; loaded

> orinoco_nortel; these five made no
> orinoco_pci   ; difference, and
> orinoco_plx   ; were not used, but all
> orinoco_tmd   ; were added to the lists 
> spectrum_cs   ; using orinoco, hermes, pcmcia
> 
See added comments on right above.

> If one of these does not fix the problem it is probably time to talk to
> someone with specific knowledge about the orinoco drivers; maybe there
> is a certain trick which has to be used with WEP or the order in which
> the modules are loaded is important. It might be worthwhile to ask for
> further help on the debian-laptop list, with a short summary 

I'll do that.  Thanks again.

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..waaay OT, was: Question

2005-12-27 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 02:57:16 -0700, Daniel wrote in message 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> On Tue, Dec 27, 2005 at 01:25:37AM -0500, Hal Vaughan wrote:
> 
> > I wonder, how many copyrights or patents do you hold?
> > 
> > If you're a drug company or a big hardware/software company <...>
> 
> Going a bit off-topic here, but having worked in drug development, I
> can tell you that no drug would be developed by anyone except the
> government with a 5-year drug patent term.  Takes that long just to
> get through FDA procedures some of the time.  Typical time from lab
> idea to product on the shelf, although it varies a lot, is around 10
> years (and a billion dollars).
> 
> Although I don't think I would support lengthening the patent term, I
> can tell you from talking to people in the field that the (to them)
> short term skews drug development decisions towards "blockbuster"
> drugs that can make a huge amount of money in those 7 years after the
> drug hits the market.  It also skews towards "me too" drugs and
> slightly-improved versions of existing drugs because those take less
> time in development.

..heh.  What happens to the speed of Bushist regime here, if 
the Chinese declares their new bird flu vaccin, a strategic item 
"in the NeoCon American Way"?  ;o)  Will we see leadership?  ;o)  
Or just the usual, "a show"?

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..OT, was: Question

2005-12-27 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 16:18:40 +0800, Katipo wrote in message 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Hal Vaughan wrote:
> 
> > On Monday 26 December 2005 10:22 pm, Katipo wrote:
> >
> > I wonder, how many copyrights or patents do you hold?

..just copyrights, no patents, they require far more funding than
starting a viable business here in Norwegian Lappland.

> > If you're a drug company or a big hardware/software company, 5 years
> > can be  enough time, but if you're an individual, it can take much
> > longer.
> >
> Then the individual needs to get off his backside.
> And a five year plan will give him the motivation to do it.
> 
> Let's see...
> 
> Creative process, terminating in basic prototype, for example.
> Five years begins here!!!
> O.K., you seem to be under the impression that you are only permitted
> to  deal with one agent.
> Rubbish!
> 
> Approach six accountants with a coherent business plan, and if you're 
> not up and running within twelve months, with your pick of viable 
> financial investors, your product doesn't have a market.

..ummy yeah, I guess I can confirm there is _no_ market in Norway for
thermochemical gasification technology that can match the Norwegian
petroleum export to the EU by burning off the MSW in the EU.
Google, if you want the gory details.

> If it does, you have a partner who supplies the manufacturing process.
> You perhaps handle the marketing between you.
> That's not hard.
> It's a field I know well.

..uhuh.  Show us.

> >I'll finally be in a position to produce them (with some re-writing)
> >in the  next few years.  It can vary a lot.
> >  
> >
> Then it's far from a full time project.

.."full time" requires funding.  "Show me the money" is just a promise.
You want my ear, _produce_ it. 

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Re: set-up for watching video

2005-12-27 Thread k l u r t

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On Tue, 27 Dec 2005, kangja wrote:


Hi
thks for the info.
i am currently using kaffeine which is xine-based. i stil have problem
trying to watch some videos, be they Window Media, Quicktime or Real.
For instance, 1) when i try to view the CBSNews clip, which is
RealPlayer-based, the image flickers continuously.
2) i can't view the opening video at http://www.rocketboom.com.

U may want to give it a try.


i did give it a try and both sites, CBSNews and rocketboom.com, work fine 
for me.


i'm using galeon (gnome browser based on mozilla) as my web browser and 
CBSNews's realmedia stream works fine within mplayer-plugin 
(mozilla-mplayer). same goes for rocketboom.com - the quicktime and 
win player options both work fine (although the woman in the video is quite 
annoying).


come to the darkside kangja and use mplayer. :)

k l u r t


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Re: X config

2005-12-27 Thread Kent West
S Clement wrote:

> No matter what I do with the XF86Config-4 in /etc/X11, I get the same fatal 
> error message at the end:
>   xf86OpenConsole: Cannot find a free VT
> 
>I could not find anything like xf86OpenConsole.  When I had Debian before, X 
>attached itself to tty7 automatically.  Any ideas?  I cannot find xvidtune.
> 
>Incidentally, I have Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 installed on a Toshiba Satellite 
>A-30.  The 40 Gig drive is halved with WinXP and Debian.  The Debian is on 
>multiple partitions, one each for /swap, /, /home, /usr and /var.  Boot is 
>controlled by lilo.
>
You're not out of space on any of those partitions, are you?

You haven't specified tty7 as a VT in /etc/inittab, have you? X uses 7 by 
default, so if you had more than the default six, you need to skip # 7.

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Re: install KDE 3.5 on Debian 3.1

2005-12-27 Thread mess-mate
Chong Zan Kai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| Hi,
| 
| May I know what is the steps to update KDE of Debian 3.1 to KDE 3.5 ?
| Is there any guideline that can recommend to me?
| 
i've installed kde 3.5 with 'konstruct' ( kde.org ) 


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X config

2005-12-27 Thread S Clement
 No matter what I do with the XF86Config-4 in /etc/X11, I get the same fatal 
error message at the end:
   xf86OpenConsole: Cannot find a free VT
 
I could not find anything like xf86OpenConsole.  When I had Debian before, X 
attached itself to tty7 automatically.  Any ideas?  I cannot find xvidtune.
 
Incidentally, I have Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 installed on a Toshiba Satellite 
A-30.  The 40 Gig drive is halved with WinXP and Debian.  The Debian is on 
multiple partitions, one each for /swap, /, /home, /usr and /var.  Boot is 
controlled by lilo.  
 
I have some trouble connecting to the web using Debian but that is secondary to 
the X problem.
 
Whatever you can do, thanks.
 
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Re: package broken?

2005-12-27 Thread k l u r t

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On Tue, 27 Dec 2005, kangja wrote:


Can someone confirm if the package libjack0.100.0-0 is broken?
I cannot install mplayer because of it.


kangja,

since i pushed you to the mplayer darkside (see: "set-up for watching 
video" thread)... i'll try to see you through the install.


Debian Bug report logs: package libjack0.100.0-0
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=libjack0.100.0-0

according to the above link, there are not any current bug reports for 
libjack0.100.0-0.
i believe you mentioned in your other post that you are using 
testing(etch); the package is available for testing(etch).


i'm guessing that you perfer not to compile mplayer from source and rather
install Christian Marillat's mplayer package. true?

have you tried to install libjack0.100.0-0 first then the mplayer package? 
or use the -f option with apt-get :

apt-get -f install mplayer-586

download:
http://debian.lcs.mit.edu/debian/pool/main/j/jack-audio-connection-kit/libjack0.100.0-0_0.100.0-4_i386.deb
then dpkg -i libjack0.100.0-0_0.100.0-4_i386.deb
or
apt-get install libjack0.100.0-0
then
apt-get -f install mplayer-586

what happens when you install libjack0.100.0-0 first then the 
marillat mplayer package?



k l u r t


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3d acceleartion

2005-12-27 Thread Mark Grieveson




Hello. Is it possible for me to enable 3d acceleration with the
hardware I have? Right now, there is absolutely no 3d acceleration. I
feel that if it was present, even though my hardware is old, I at least
would be able to play PlanetPenguin-Racer (aka TuxRacer).

I have a Pentium III, 450 MHz system, running Debian Sarge with a
2.6.8-2-386 kernel image, 384 MB ram. My VGA compatible controller is
ATI Technologies Inc 3D Rage Pro AGP 1X/2X (rev 5c), which I believe is
also known as Mach64, with 8 MB. So, is the name "3D Rage Pro" just a
lie, to enrage me?

I use xserver-xfree86, and the file /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 contains the
following lines:
XF86Config-4Section "Module"
Load "dri"
Load "glx"
Section "DRI"
Mode 0666


Below is the printout of glxinfo:
glxinfo[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ glxinfo
name of display: :0.0
Xlib: extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
display: :0 screen: 0
direct rendering: No
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.2
server glx extensions:
GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_EXT_import_context
client glx vendor string: SGI
client glx version string: 1.2
client glx extensions:
GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_EXT_import_context
GLX extensions:
GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_EXT_import_context
OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: http://www.mesa3d.org
OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
OpenGL version string: 1.3 Mesa 4.0.4
OpenGL extensions:
GL_ARB_imaging, GL_ARB_multitexture, GL_ARB_texture_border_clamp,
GL_ARB_texture_cube_map, GL_ARB_texture_env_add,
GL_ARB_texture_env_combine, GL_ARB_texture_env_dot3,
GL_ARB_transpose_matrix, GL_EXT_abgr, GL_EXT_blend_color,
GL_EXT_blend_minmax, GL_EXT_blend_subtract, GL_EXT_texture_env_add,
GL_EXT_texture_env_combine, GL_EXT_texture_env_dot3,
GL_EXT_texture_lod_bias
glu version: 1.3
glu extensions:
GLU_EXT_nurbs_tessellator, GLU_EXT_object_space_tess

visual x bf lv rg d st colorbuffer ax dp st accumbuffer ms cav
id dep cl sp sz l ci b ro r g b a bf th cl r g b a ns b eat
--
0x23 16 tc 1 16 0 r y . 5 6 5 0 0 16 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 None
0x24 16 tc 1 16 0 r y . 5 6 5 0 0 16 8 16 16 16 0 0 0 None
0x25 16 tc 1 16 0 r y . 5 6 5 8 0 16 8 16 16 16 16 0 0 None
0x26 16 tc 1 16 0 r . . 5 6 5 8 0 16 8 16 16 16 16 0 0 None
0x27 16 dc 1 16 0 r y . 5 6 5 0 0 16 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 None
0x28 16 dc 1 16 0 r y . 5 6 5 0 0 16 8 16 16 16 0 0 0 None
0x29 16 dc 1 16 0 r y . 5 6 5 8 0 16 8 16 16 16 16 0 0 None
0x2a 16 dc 1 16 0 r . . 5 6 5 8 0 16 8 16 16 16 16 0 0 None






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Re: [OT] printf format specifier

2005-12-27 Thread Felix C. Stegerman
On 2005-12-27 10:58:54, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I thought that %02.1f would print floating points as xx.x or 0x.x but it 
> does not. It prints x.x or xx.x.
> How do I ensure that there always are 2 digits before the floating point?

Try "%04.1f", since xx.x has length 4, not 2.

I must admit I overlooked that at first too ;-)


Felix

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Re: searching for a font - not a debian specific topic

2005-12-27 Thread Almut Behrens
On Tue, Dec 27, 2005 at 07:02:02PM +0100, LeVA wrote:
> 
> I'm looking for a font, and I hope someone recognise it, or can show me 
> something similar. (...)

"HelveticaNeue-BlackCond" looks pretty similar.
Contact me off-list if you have further questions...

Almut


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failing to connect with PPP in austria

2005-12-27 Thread martin f krafft
hi,

sorry to ask for your time, maybe someone can help. I am in Austria and
cannot connect to AON anymore. The credentials are right, but pppd cannot
authenticate, exiting with the error "No auth is possible". I think it may
be because they expect CHAP, but even adding my credentials to
chap-secrets does not work. Same error. Also, specifying 'asyncmap 0' does
not help.

Maybe someone in .at could forward this message to someone who may know
what to do.

Thanks,
martin


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Re: new install

2005-12-27 Thread Paolo Pantaleo
2005/12/27, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Hi!
>
> I have now Etch on my system but i want to reinstall with reiser file
> system.
If you  have GRUB you could:
1) back up partition
2) format with reiserFS
3) restore partition

> Is it possible that I choose KDE and not GNOME, which is default?
Yes you can choose KDE, using tasksel -> desktop (or something
similar) you get gnome, but isntalling kdedesktop (i hope to be right)
package you get a KDE system "out of the box"
> Default kernel is 2.6.12-386. Is it possible to install 2.6.14-686?
Yes... simply install the appropriate package
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mitja
>
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searching for a font - not a debian specific topic

2005-12-27 Thread LeVA
Hi!

I'm looking for a font, and I hope someone recognise it, or can show me 
something similar.
Here is what kind of font I need:

http://www.firestoreonline.com/ProductImages/fullsize/CHICAGO.NARC.SHIRT.FULLSIZE.jpg

The "POLICE" sign on the T-Shirt.

Thanks for any help!

Daniel

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Re: [OT] printf format specifier

2005-12-27 Thread Paulo Marcel Coelho Aragao
Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote on Dec, 27:

[...]

> I thought that %02.1f would print floating points as xx.x or 0x.x but it 
> does not. It prints x.x or xx.x.
> How do I ensure that there always are 2 digits before the floating point?

Please allow me to recommend a very good discussion group for questions such 
as yours:

comp.lang.c

You can access it through:

http://groups.google.com/

You just subscribe and can post your doubt straight away. I've done it before 
and the guys over there are really helpful and speedy.

Regards,
Paulo


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[OT] EP-8VTAI hangs on boot with SATA HDD

2005-12-27 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Hi,

I realize this is an issue of the mobo and nothing in general.

But anyway, may be this has happened to someone.

I put the SATA WD800JD disk in and connect the cable to either the SATA1 
or SATA2 connector on the mobo and boot never gets past the first screen 
and hangs there after detecting the IDE drives.


I unplug the SATA cable and everything is normal. But no SATA IDE.

Am I at the mercy of the EPoX support techs now?

Thanks!

H


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web host suggestions?

2005-12-27 Thread Dan Jacobson
Which web hosting company would a Debian user (not developer) choose
for his personal website (jidanni.org)?
Got by with no ssh or cgi and only 1Gb/month bandwidth and 25Mb
disk usage at affordablehost.com for US$20/year, but would like more
bandwidth. True, no Debian relevance, but might as well give my
business to a respected Debian host... or else could just renew with
affordablehost for another five years.


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[OT] printf format specifier

2005-12-27 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Hi,

I thought that %02.1f would print floating points as xx.x or 0x.x but it 
does not. It prints x.x or xx.x.

How do I ensure that there always are 2 digits before the floating point?

Thanks!

H


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Re: module-assistant with ipw2200

2005-12-27 Thread Florian Kulzer

On Sun, 2005-12-25 at 22:56 +0100, Erdi Balint wrote:


If the running kernel has been shipped with the Debian distribution,
please install the package kernel-headers-2.6.8-2-386"


Do you have the sarge (stable) branch in your /etc/apt/sources.list?
The kernel-headers package should be right there:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ apt-cache policy kernel-headers-2.6.8-2-386
kernel-headers-2.6.8-2-386:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: 2.6.8-16sarge1
  Version table:
 2.6.8-16sarge1 0
500 http://security.debian.org stable/updates/main Packages

Regards,
  Florian



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Re: Resize jfs partition

2005-12-27 Thread dclemen
Thanks for your reply. This afternoon I will try it.

Thanks again!!

Dennis Stosberg escribió:
> dclemen wrote:
> 
>> Hi, I have "/" directory on a partition with jfs file system. It has
>> 140Gb size, but I remove another partition with 40Gb that was behind "/"
>> partition. So I want to resize my / to get these 40Gb.
>>
>> I read some sites to resize partitions with:
>>
>> # mount -o remount,resize /home
> 
> Yes, that syntax works with jfs, as well.  On your Debian system you
> can find that information in the mount(8) manual page. Search for
> "Mount options for jfs".
> 
>> But I thing that I can't do it with / partition.
> 
> Jfs _is_ able to resize a file system which is in use. 
>  
>> There are any way to get it?. If not, maybe I can get any live-cd distro
>> and then resize it.
>>
>> It is safe? (I don't want to loose my data)
> 
> It is "safe" in the way that it will work reliably without any known
> errors that would lead to data loss. 
> 
> However, if a file system contains data that you cannot afford to
> lose, it is _always_ a very good idea to have a current backup.  And
> of course, the risk of losing data is much higher when you're
> modifying file systems.
> 
>> Thanks
>>
>> PD: fdisk /dev/sda
>>Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System
>> /dev/sda1   *   1586447102548+   7  HPFS/NTFS
>> /dev/sda258656085 1775182+  82  Linux swap / Solaris
>> /dev/sda36086   24321   146480670   83  Linux
>> /dev/sda4   29500   30401 72453155  Extended
>> /dev/sda5   29500   30401 7245283+   b  W95 FAT32
>>
>> I want to get blocks from 24321 to 29500 (29499) into dev/sda3
> 
> This involves two steps:
> 
>   (1) Use fdisk to enlarge your /dev/sda3 partition to the new
>   size:  Set the last cylinder of that partition to 29499 (not
>   29500 !).  You need to reboot to make the kernel use the new
>   partition table.  Now the partition is 40 GB larger, but the
>   file system on that partition does not fill the complete
>   partition yet.
> 
>   (2) Enlarge the file system on /dev/sda3 to completely fill the
>   partition with "mount -o remount,resize".
> 
> Regards,
> Dennis
> 


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new install

2005-12-27 Thread ajtim
Hi!

I have now Etch on my system but i want to reinstall with reiser file 
system.
Is it possible that I choose KDE and not GNOME, which is default? 
Default kernel is 2.6.12-386. Is it possible to install 2.6.14-686? 

Thanks,

Mitja


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Re: module-assistant with ipw2200

2005-12-27 Thread Paul Mansfield
On Sun, 2005-12-25 at 22:56 +0100, Erdi Balint wrote:

> If the running kernel has been shipped with the Debian distribution, 
> please install the package kernel-headers-2.6.8-2-386"
> 
Have you tried running "module-assistant prepare", as root? That has
always installed the required packages in my experience.

Regards
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Fresh CD images

2005-12-27 Thread Marco
Anyone knows if the weekly cd/dvd images (testing branch) will be soon updated?
The ones available for download were released on 12-Dec-2005...
 
Thanks,
Marco


Re: compiling apache 2.0.55, undefined reference errors (BIO_printf and such)

2005-12-27 Thread Roberto Sanchez

Artur Makówka wrote:


compiling 2.0.54 gives the same results (well, at least it also stops on 
some errors)


i just want to recompile apache to match my processor architecture 
optimization and such, besides i want to change few configure options. 
Of course i havent changed them yet, now i just want to test if it is 
even possible to compile it. But if you ask about my goal, that is the 
ability to change ./configure options and optimization.


besides, i think dpkg-buildpackage is in debian to use it.

2.0.55 is official apache2 version from testing, why would i want to 
change official version


i think there is a problem with some -l option missing in compile time, 
and i dont know why. or maybe i am missing some package, that is not in 
'depends'.




I see.  Have you read my Debian Package Customization HOWTO?

http://familiasanchez.net/~roberto/howtos/debcustomize

I would start there.

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Re: package broken?

2005-12-27 Thread Felix C. Stegerman
On 2005-12-27 20:57:41, kangja wrote:
> Can someone confirm if the package libjack0.100.0-0 is broken?
> I cannot install mplayer because of it.

It seems to be OK.

$ apt-cache policy libjack0.100.0-0
libjack0.100.0-0:
  Installed: 0.100.0-4
  Candidate: 0.100.0-4
  Version table:
 *** 0.100.0-4 0
900 http://ftp.nl.debian.org sid/main Packages
890 http://ftp.nl.debian.org etch/main Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status


Felix

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Re: /etc/interfaces for logical interfaces

2005-12-27 Thread L.V.Gandhi
On 12/27/05, Felix C. Stegerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I would recommend using laptop-net. It can automagically detect
> whether you're at home or at work and adjust the network settings
> accordingly.
>
> With my setup, it looks for ip 192.168.1.1 (my router at home) and
> if it is found uses ip 192.168.1.104. Otherwise it uses DHCP
> (at university).
Above is also good. However even for above, you need to set the static
IP of Home PC. See what IP your office net dhcp offers. If it is
192.168.1.x as mentioned above, then set home pc as 192.168.0.1.
If you don't want to install additional package, use the following
script(taken from this list and modified) as getting host ip at home.
Else default will be dhcp at office.
Script

#!/bin/sh

#if [ `id -u` -ne 0 ] || [ "$1" = "" ]; then exit 1; fi

ARPING="/usr/sbin/arping -fqc5"

iface="$1"
which=""


while read addr pingme scheme; do
if [ "$which" ]; then continue; fi
if [ $scheme = nolink ];then which=nolink;echo $which;exit 0;fi

#echo "  Trying $addr & $pingme ($scheme)" >&2
ip addr add $addr dev $iface  >/dev/null 2>&1
ip link set $iface up >/dev/null 2>&1
if $ARPING $pingme >/dev/null 2>&1; then
which="$scheme"
fi
ip link set $iface down   >/dev/null 2>&1
ip addr del $addr dev $iface  >/dev/null 2>&1
done

if [ "$which" ]; then echo $which; else exit 1;fi
=
put the above script in /usr/local/bin.(of course with chmod +x)
Then use following
/etc/network/interfaces
===
iface lo inet loopback

mapping eth0
script  /usr/local/bin/arpip.sh
map 192.168.0.2 192.168.0.1 home
# Home network configuration
iface home inet static
address 192.168.0.2
netmask 255.255.255.0
broadcast 192.168.0.255
gateway 192.168.0.1  //if you use you home pc for coonecting to net

 # If not is found, try DHCP
 iface none inet dhcp
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Re: dhcp client wifi setup

2005-12-27 Thread Florian Kulzer

Richard Lyons wrote:

[...]


I found that too, and tried "modprobe ieee80211_crypt_wep" The module
loaded but the connection still obstinately failed.  I found two other
modules in /lib/modules/2.6.14-2-686/kernel/net/ieee80211/, namely
ieee80211_crypt_ccmp and ieee80211_crypt_tkip, so I modprobed them too,
but that did not help either -- I expect they are for hardware I do not
have anyway.


Well, I have one last suggestion to make: Check with lsmod if the
orinoco driver is actually using the ieee80211 modules. On my laptop the
relevant output looks like this:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ lsmod | grep ieee80211
ieee80211_crypt_wep 4992  1
ieee80211  23752  1 ipw2100
ieee80211_crypt 5636  2 ieee80211_crypt_wep,ieee80211

I think you should see something similar with "ipw2100" replaced by
the name of your wireless driver. Note also that the ieee80211_crypt_wep
module is used by one other module; the fact the name of this module is
not given probably means that it is compiled statically into my
(self-built) kernel. If you see a "0" there it means that the wep-module
is not used at all; maybe there is at least one other module which you
need to load.

After looking at the 2.6.14 kernel sources I would suggest that you try
to modprobe the following modules:

hermes
orinoco
orinoco_cs
orinoco_nortel
orinoco_pci
orinoco_plx
orinoco_tmd
spectrum_cs

If one of these does not fix the problem it is probably time to talk to
someone with specific knowledge about the orinoco drivers; maybe there
is a certain trick which has to be used with WEP or the order in which
the modules are loaded is important. It might be worthwhile to ask for
further help on the debian-laptop list, with a short summary of what we
have tried so far and a subject like "orinoco wireless with WEP under
kernel 2.6.14-2-686". (Not everyone reads debian-user and an "orinoco
specialist" might have overlooked the present thread due to its
dhcp-centered subject.)

Good luck,
Florian


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Re: Re: Re: set-up for watching video

2005-12-27 Thread kangja
Hi
thks for the info.
i am currently using kaffeine which is xine-based. i stil have problem
trying to watch some videos, be they Window Media, Quicktime or Real.
For instance, 1) when i try to view the CBSNews clip, which is
RealPlayer-based, the image flickers continuously.
2) i can't view the opening video at http://www.rocketboom.com.

U may want to give it a try.

kangja


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Re: Chkrootkit report

2005-12-27 Thread Dennis Stosberg
Rick Friedman wrote:

> I just ran a program called chkrootkit. It reports the following:
> 
> eth0: PACKET SNIFFER(/usr/sbin/pppd[5072])
> 
> I realize that 5072 is the process id for pppd. But what is the message 
> actually saying? Is there a problem with pppd?? Or is this normal?

A "packet sniffer" is a process that reads all traffic on a given
network device.  And this message tells you that there is a process
called pppd which does exactly this.

It is still up to you to decide, whether that is a problem.  If you
are running pppd (for example for PPP over Ethernet), this is
probably O.K.  But if you have never installed or used pppd, there
may be a problem.

There are many programs which trigger false alarms regularly. See
/usr/share/doc/chkrootkit/README.Debian 

Regards,
Dennis


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package broken?

2005-12-27 Thread kangja
Can someone confirm if the package libjack0.100.0-0 is broken?
I cannot install mplayer because of it.

thks.

kangja



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Chkrootkit report

2005-12-27 Thread Rick Friedman
I just ran a program called chkrootkit. It reports the following:

eth0: PACKET SNIFFER(/usr/sbin/pppd[5072])

I realize that 5072 is the process id for pppd. But what is the message 
actually saying? Is there a problem with pppd?? Or is this normal?

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Re: apcupsd examples: nislib

2005-12-27 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

Hi,

I have just installed a Backup-UPS LS 500 and am using Sarge's apcupsd 
to control it.


Seems to work.

The example files have programs in them to communicate with apcupsd over 
 the port that it uses. But they use nislib.


That seems to be a FreeBSD tool. Anybody know how to get that, or 
recompiled those example programs?


Although the examples are in there, I see no docs as to how to compile 
them.




I downloaded the latest tar ball and nislib is in there. Added the 
missing code and client.c then compiles.


Cf. http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=344757

H


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Re: bir Qmail sorusu

2005-12-27 Thread Michelle Konzack
Merhaba Emre,

I think, it is better, if you ask at



because I think, here in the englich list they
are rarly peoples speaking urkish

Salamlar
Michelle
(my father was turkish)

Am 2005-12-21 14:44:57, schrieb Emre Sevinç:
> Bir dostum Qmail ile ilgili sordu:
> 
> =
> /service/qmail-send: up (pid 2842) 33169 seconds
> /service/qmail-send/log: up (pid 2844) 33168 seconds
> /service/qmail-smtpd: up (pid 2845) 33168 seconds
> /service/qmail-smtpd/log: up (pid 2852) 33168 seconds
> /service/qmail-pop3d: up (pid 2854) 33168 seconds
> /service/qmail-pop3d/log: up (pid 2855) 33168 seconds
> messages in queue: 43427
> messages in queue but not yet preprocessed: 1
> 
> in queue inan?lmaz birikiyor ve normalde emailleri h?zl? gondermesi
> gerekirken inan?lmaz yava? gonderiyor...
> =
> 
> Debian degil de Gelecek Linux üzerinde calistiriyormus ama yine de belki
> yukaridakilere bakip bir seyler önerebilecek ya da "debugging" yapmayi
> saglayacak sorulari soracak Qmail ustalari cikar diye düsündüm.
> 
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Re: samba won't dance

2005-12-27 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2005-12-20 12:57:03, schrieb Scott:
> Marty Landman wrote:
> >First thanks for the advice on using Apt given earlier. I managed to get 
> >Samba and dependencies installed this way after connecting to my LAN 
> >gateway.
> >
> >Now having trouble with Samba .
> 
> 
> Tried Tango or Cha-Cha?

Better he start slowly with Rumba.

Greetings
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Re: Resize jfs partition

2005-12-27 Thread Dennis Stosberg
dclemen wrote:

> Hi, I have "/" directory on a partition with jfs file system. It has
> 140Gb size, but I remove another partition with 40Gb that was behind "/"
> partition. So I want to resize my / to get these 40Gb.
> 
> I read some sites to resize partitions with:
> 
> # mount -o remount,resize /home

Yes, that syntax works with jfs, as well.  On your Debian system you
can find that information in the mount(8) manual page. Search for
"Mount options for jfs".

> But I thing that I can't do it with / partition.

Jfs _is_ able to resize a file system which is in use. 
 
> There are any way to get it?. If not, maybe I can get any live-cd distro
> and then resize it.
> 
> It is safe? (I don't want to loose my data)

It is "safe" in the way that it will work reliably without any known
errors that would lead to data loss. 

However, if a file system contains data that you cannot afford to
lose, it is _always_ a very good idea to have a current backup.  And
of course, the risk of losing data is much higher when you're
modifying file systems.

> Thanks
> 
> PD: fdisk /dev/sda
>Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System
> /dev/sda1   *   1586447102548+   7  HPFS/NTFS
> /dev/sda258656085 1775182+  82  Linux swap / Solaris
> /dev/sda36086   24321   146480670   83  Linux
> /dev/sda4   29500   30401 72453155  Extended
> /dev/sda5   29500   30401 7245283+   b  W95 FAT32
> 
> I want to get blocks from 24321 to 29500 (29499) into dev/sda3

This involves two steps:

  (1) Use fdisk to enlarge your /dev/sda3 partition to the new
  size:  Set the last cylinder of that partition to 29499 (not
  29500 !).  You need to reboot to make the kernel use the new
  partition table.  Now the partition is 40 GB larger, but the
  file system on that partition does not fill the complete
  partition yet.

  (2) Enlarge the file system on /dev/sda3 to completely fill the
  partition with "mount -o remount,resize".

Regards,
Dennis

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New year

2005-12-27 Thread Jeffrin
hello all,

wish you all a happy and a prosperous NEW YEAR.
bye for now...happy hacking...
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Resize jfs partition

2005-12-27 Thread dclemen
Hi, I have "/" directory on a partition with jfs file system. It has
140Gb size, but I remove another partition with 40Gb that was behind "/"
partition. So I want to resize my / to get these 40Gb.

I read some sites to resize partitions with:

# mount -o remount,resize /home

But I thing that I can't do it with / partition.

There are any way to get it?. If not, maybe I can get any live-cd distro
and then resize it.

It is safe? (I don't want to loose my data)

Thanks

PD: fdisk /dev/sda
   Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sda1   *   1586447102548+   7  HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sda258656085 1775182+  82  Linux swap / Solaris
/dev/sda36086   24321   146480670   83  Linux
/dev/sda4   29500   30401 72453155  Extended
/dev/sda5   29500   30401 7245283+   b  W95 FAT32

I want to get blocks from 24321 to 29500 (29499) into dev/sda3


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Re: (OT) UK broadband with open port 25

2005-12-27 Thread Dick Davies
Inbound or out?

NTL don't restrict either (although they have a transparent http proxy).


On 27/12/05, Jamie Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Richard Lyons wrote:
>
> >A quick OT:
> >
> >Anyone here found a UK broadband supplier (>=2G) who can provide an open
> >port 25?
> >
> >
> >
> Freedom to Surf, Zen, and quite a few others do, I believe.
> - Jamie
>
>
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Re: Debugging severe performance problems

2005-12-27 Thread Kjetil Kjernsmo
On Tuesday 27 December 2005 11:53, Gonzalo HIGUERA DÍAZ wrote:
> Given the three scenarios you give, specially the first and maybe
> also the third, disk access is a likely candidate. Check with hdparm
> whether the HDD-chipset is using the best transfer mode available
> (some DMA mode, given the hardware).

Uh-ouch. Yeah, I really thought that I used DMA, but when you said it, I 
checked, and indeed it wasn't turned on in the kernel config. I needed 
a recompile anyway, and I was sure to enable it.

My first impression is that this really did the trick! Thanks a lot!

Cheers,

Kjetil
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Re: Question

2005-12-27 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Tuesday 27 December 2005 06:05 am, Katipo wrote:

> >Partner.  Ahh.  Just like the ol' repeated Slashdot comment:
> >
> >1. Get an idea
> >2. ?
> >3. Profit!
> >
> >Except you've just switched step 2 with having a partner that will finance
> >you.
> >
> >It doesn't work that easily.  It'd be nice, but it's not the kind of
> > comment I'd expect to hear from someone with experience.
>
> Really?

If it were that easy, the failure rate for new businesses would not be close 
to 95% within the first year.

...
> >Common law copyright is a neat idea, but it is about as useful as someone
> > who has written a patent and makes $75,000 a year realizing he has a law
> > suit against Microsoft, who can basically afford to drag it out and
> > bankrupt him and his lawyers long before he ever gets a judgement in
> > court.  While the person just might get lucky, the reality of the
> > situation is that he'll go broke before ever getting a chance to make
> > some money.
>
> That's not what the problem is.
> It's when Microsoft declare a patent on something you own.
> That's when their money makes the difference.
> This is where the fiscal imbalance proves unethical, within the context
> of dragged out court cases.

I notice you dropped the point that this is ONLY an analogy.  However, and 
this is not intended as offensive or an attack, when I realize that, at the 
end of this letter, you are a promoter, it makes sense.  It is not your job 
to deal with logic in arguments, but to deal with perceptions and reactions.  
Rather than focus on a negative point, focus on the one you can break down 
and use it to turn a possible negative into a positive.

> >>> Poe got $100 for The Raven, but it became popular.  While
> >>>he did sign away the rights (he needed the money),
>
> Of course he did, he was a drunk.

In short: not likely, there is a LOT more to it than that (I know, a former 
teacher is on the board at the Poe Museum here in Richmond, where Poe grew 
up, and I've talked to him and the Museum Director about topics like this in 
researching a script I've written about Poe -- and one I hope to produce 
within the next few years).  Basically, that is not the case, and saying so 
perpetuates slander that started when someone with a grudge against Poe 
managed to grab the chance to write his obituary.  I mention this to point 
out you're using an ad hominem attack to deal with one topic other than the 
point that was made and that you're waving that flag of distraction on a 
topic you are not too familiar with.
...
> >>> Some
> >>>are honest, many are not.
> >>
> >>Yep, you've got to be street smart to survive.
> >
> >Street smart != dishonest
>
> No, it doesn't.
> Some of the most honest people I've known have been in the street.
> Sometimes, that's the reason they're there.
> Let's substitute, 'you've got to know the territory'.

That still dodges the point.

> >>That's why you get a financial partner.
> >
> >Oh, that easy, is it?  Just go out and *poof* there is someone who will
> > give you the money to do it all.
>
> No, I didn't say that.
> A little artistic licence, there.

The point is that you use one sentence as a fix-all.  "That's why you get a 
financial partner."  More often that not, it is simply not possible, which 
was a major part of my point.  Many people cannot get all this done in a few 
years because it takes longer than that to amass the resources.

> >Once again, if you have resources or a track record, it can be easy, but
> > in this day and age, it is not easy.  I've talked to loan managers at
> > banks about financing
>
> Waste of time.

That's my point.  And this is one of the few avenues open for most people

> >-- and I don't mean just as an applicant.  One point that
> >came up over and over is that small business are no longer started with
> >loans.
>
> Of course not.
> Very volatile market.
> 50% of small business fails in its first year.
> 50% of the remainder fails in the second year.
> More after that.

Actually, it's closer to 90% in the first year when I checked within the past 
2 years.  However, noting (below) that you are in Australia and I'm in the 
US, that could explain the difference in figures.  My source is from the 
Small Business Administration (which is full of nice people who know a lot of 
things, but totally useless if you need *real* help in starting a business in 
America).

And even if you use your figures, that still supports my point that most 
people need more time to amass the resources and can't just get something 
going in a few years.  Which is my major point.  As a promoter, you might 
have the resources to build up something quickly, but you are a minority in 
this respect.

> After that amount of time, if he's not far enough ahead of the rest of
> the market, that's business.
> >>>
> >>>That may work in software, but copyrights apply to a lot besides
> >>> software.
> >>
> >>Every product, and I employ the terminology in its broadest sense, has

Samsung SCX-4100 laser printer mfp, with Debian/Sarge. Cannot get beyond test page

2005-12-27 Thread David Riggs
Samsung has supports for many Linux distributions, but not Debian. The 
printer works fine with its Win setup, but I cannot get anything to 
print with Debian beyond a test page from CUPS.


Following Samsung's directions, I made sure I had CUPS (1.1.23-15) and 
SANE (1.0.14-1), downloaded the latest drivers as of 12/25/05. The 
install completed OK it said, but gave these error messages:


cp: cannot stat `/usr/bin/lpr.cups': No such file or directory
rmmod: module mfpportprobe is not loaded
rmmod: module mfpport is not loaded
Unable to update /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit

I note that the modules are now present:

/lib/modules/2.4.27-1-386/kernel/drivers/mfpportctrl/mfpportprobe.o
/lib/modules/2.4.27-1-386/kernel/drivers/mfpportctrl/mfpportprobe.o


I printed a test page from CUPS 631 interface, but any other print job 
gets 'Unable to open MPF port device file' Error Code 12, and turns the 
printer off.


I see various postings in the archives here and at linuxprinting.org 
about problems with other Samsung printers, but nothing of help about 
this unit recently (that I can find). Any help is most appreciated,


David Riggs

Kyoto


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Re: (OT) UK broadband with open port 25

2005-12-27 Thread Jamie Thompson

Richard Lyons wrote:


A quick OT:

Anyone here found a UK broadband supplier (>=2G) who can provide an open
port 25?

 


Freedom to Surf, Zen, and quite a few others do, I believe.
- Jamie


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Re: /etc/interfaces for logical interfaces

2005-12-27 Thread Felix C. Stegerman
On 2005-12-27 11:54:08, Joachim Fahnenmüller wrote:
> Hi everybody,
> 
> I read man interfaces but didn't understand completely.
> 
> I have a laptop with 1 interface eth0, and I want 2 setups: at work with inet
> dhcp, at home (to exchange data with my PC) inet static with a certain IP. 
> (If I
> understand correctly that is what they call 'logical interfaces'.)
> 
> What must I write in /etc/interfaces so that I can do e. g. 
> ifup eth0-home (eth0=home ?)
> to start eth0 with the desired settings?

I would recommend using laptop-net. It can automagically detect
whether you're at home or at work and adjust the network settings
accordingly.

With my setup, it looks for ip 192.168.1.1 (my router at home) and
if it is found uses ip 192.168.1.104. Otherwise it uses DHCP
(at university).


Felix

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Re: Question

2005-12-27 Thread Katipo

Hal Vaughan wrote:



Have you ever tried to start a business?  Seriously?  
 


Oh, yes.


If it does, you have a partner who supplies the manufacturing process.
   



Partner.  Ahh.  Just like the ol' repeated Slashdot comment:

1. Get an idea
2. ?
3. Profit!

Except you've just switched step 2 with having a partner that will finance 
you.


It doesn't work that easily.  It'd be nice, but it's not the kind of comment 
I'd expect to hear from someone with experience.
 


Really?

 


You perhaps handle the marketing between you.
That's not hard.
It's a field I know well.
   



You may know the marketing, but you make it quite clear you expect everyone to 
have magical connections that just fit together when you want to do 
something.


Let me know when you're ready to discuss real life situations.
 


O.K.

Common law copyright is a neat idea, but it is about as useful as someone who 
has written a patent and makes $75,000 a year realizing he has a law suit 
against Microsoft, who can basically afford to drag it out and bankrupt him 
and his lawyers long before he ever gets a judgement in court.  While the 
person just might get lucky, the reality of the situation is that he'll go 
broke before ever getting a chance to make some money.  
 


That's not what the problem is.
It's when Microsoft declare a patent on something you own.
That's when their money makes the difference.
This is where the fiscal imbalance proves unethical, within the context 
of dragged out court cases.


 

 


Poe got $100 for The Raven, but it became popular.  While
he did sign away the rights (he needed the money),


Of course he did, he was a drunk.



No, often it does not.  You've never dealt with an agent or producer.
 


I wouldn't assume too much here.
   



Good.  You've assumed you knew everything about anything I've said so far.  
(You must be in marketing, as you claim -- you know how to make everything 
sound wonderful, whether you know the real situation or not!)


 


Some
are honest, many are not.
 


Yep, you've got to be street smart to survive.
   



Street smart != dishonest
 


No, it doesn't.
Some of the most honest people I've known have been in the street.
Sometimes, that's the reason they're there.
Let's substitute, 'you've got to know the territory'.


That's why you get a financial partner.
   



Oh, that easy, is it?  Just go out and *poof* there is someone who will give 
you the money to do it all.



No, I didn't say that.
A little artistic licence, there.




Once again, if you have resources or a track record, it can be easy, but in 
this day and age, it is not easy.  I've talked to loan managers at banks 
about financing 


Waste of time.

-- and I don't mean just as an applicant.  One point that 
came up over and over is that small business are no longer started with 
loans.



Of course not.
Very volatile market.
50% of small business fails in its first year.
50% of the remainder fails in the second year.
More after that.




 


After that amount of time, if he's not far enough ahead of the rest of
the market, that's business.
   


That may work in software, but copyrights apply to a lot besides software.
 


Every product, and I employ the terminology in its broadest sense, has
its idiosyncracies, but business principle remains the same.
   



Yes, and that makes my point.  There are times one has resources and money and 
can make something happen quickly.  If one does not, and one is either 
starting from scratch, or is the "average guy",



The average guy will remain average, and this is not a disparaging remark.
Sometimes I think he's the lucky one.
It takes a product with potential, /and /a successful strategy, along 
with a personality who is distinctly _not_ average.





I started with nothing, and became the third largest promoter in the 
history of Australia.

I didn't do it inside five years, but by then, I was well on my way.
Beginning, end, and entire middle of story.

I'm glad to hear that you're beginning to do well.
Handling everything yourself sounds like a different strategy.
I hope it works for you.

I've cut a lot from this, but we're getting distinctly OT.


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Re: Debugging severe performance problems

2005-12-27 Thread Gonzalo HIGUERA DÍAZ
2005-12-27 11:39 +0100, Kjetil Kjernsmo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Hi all!
>
> One of my systems has a really severe performance problem.
>
> [...]
>
> It is my father's system, so I'm not bothered with it too often, but the
> performance is insanely bad. When it does updatedb, the system pretty
> much freezes for the time it takes to scan the disk. Firefox takes more
> than a minute to start, and a regular apt-get upgrade with trivial
> security fixes makes the load go to above 5. My own system is similar
> to this system, but has a somewhat slower CPU, and performs well. It is
> definitely not because it doesn't have the hardware.
>
> So, well, I have a system here that borders on unusable and no idea how
> to fix it. Where would you start if you had a *really* slow system?

Given the three scenarios you give, specially the first and maybe also
the third, disk access is a likely candidate. Check with hdparm
whether the HDD-chipset is using the best transfer mode available
(some DMA mode, given the hardware).

As for sluggishness with X, I also seem to have the problem sometimes,
specially when starting X. I had the impression that some time ago it
was a couple of seconds at most that the screen stayed blank while
loading xdm, but now it seems to be in the slow end of the 5-10 s
range, so it is clear that I can't give any advice on that side of the
issue.

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/etc/interfaces for logical interfaces

2005-12-27 Thread Joachim Fahnenmüller
Hi everybody,

I read man interfaces but didn't understand completely.

I have a laptop with 1 interface eth0, and I want 2 setups: at work with inet
dhcp, at home (to exchange data with my PC) inet static with a certain IP. (If I
understand correctly that is what they call 'logical interfaces'.)

What must I write in /etc/interfaces so that I can do e. g. 
ifup eth0-home (eth0=home ?)
to start eth0 with the desired settings?

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Re: Replacement suggestions for konsole, kate, kcalc

2005-12-27 Thread Paulo Marcel Coelho Aragao
Richard Lyons wrote on Dec, 27:

[...]

> Yes, this has been very useful: I like mrxvt too.  It avoids the problem
> that some terminals have of trapping F10 so that you cannot easily get
> out of mc.  On the other hand, it shares the other problem of being left
> in reverse video when you do quit mc.  Still, that is transient and
> scrolls away.

I've recently switched from KDE to Xfce and tracking this thread has been very 
useful. I also tried mrxvt. Excellent first impression but it limps in a very 
essential feature to my taste: it display ugly-looking glyphs for line-drawing 
characters when you use FreeType fonts and ncurses applications, such as mutt, 
aptitude or mc.  konsole, xfce4-terminal and urxvt handle this correctly.

Although I quite liked mrxvt, I settled for xfce4-terminal: it's also tabbed 
and handles xft & ncurses correctly. Of course, it will pull Xfce libraries 
with it. I posted the xft problem on mrxvt user mailing list and got no 
replies, whereas the xfce user mailing list is quickly responsive.

Just my $0.02.

Paulo


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Re: Inetd vs. Xinetd

2005-12-27 Thread Dennis Stosberg
Rick Friedman wrote:

> Simply put... being the relative newbie that I am, is there an advantage to 
> having the xinetd package rather than netkit-inetd? Currently, I have 
> netkit-inetd installed. Would I be better off removing it and installing 
> xinetd? 

That depends solely on your needs. "apt-cache show xinetd" will show
you an overview of xinetd's features.

Regards,
Dennis

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Debugging severe performance problems

2005-12-27 Thread Kjetil Kjernsmo
Hi all!

One of my systems has a really severe performance problem. It has an AMD 
Athlon XP 1700+ CPU. It has 768 MB RAM, and only very rarely swaps 
anything. It has a 3Dfx Voodoo Banshee (rev 03) PCI card with 16 MB 
on-card RAM. The performance problems has been there since the summer. 
For some time, it ran woody with KDE 3.1 on top, then I had it tracking 
sarge in April. It performed well at that point. 

I've tried many different things, but it all boils down to that I think 
the hardware is OK, but that I really have no clue where to start.

It is my father's system, so I'm not bothered with it too often, but the 
performance is insanely bad. When it does updatedb, the system pretty 
much freezes for the time it takes to scan the disk. Firefox takes more 
than a minute to start, and a regular apt-get upgrade with trivial 
security fixes makes the load go to above 5. My own system is similar 
to this system, but has a somewhat slower CPU, and performs well. It is 
definitely not because it doesn't have the hardware.

Not to get hung up in this, but I think I first saw the performance 
problems as xfree86 4.3.0.dfsg.1-13 went into sarge. I have therefore 
been working under the hypothesis that it is connected to some X 
problems, and it seems like it just takes a long time to draw anything. 
It is hard to tell, of course, if that's a symptom or a cause. So, I 
tried replacing the 3Dfx PCI card with my own well-performing Matrox 
G450 AGP card, but that had no appreciable effect. Reducing the 
resolution to 800x600 did however help a bit. Now, I think X might not 
have anything to do with it. I have also tried a full memtest86 scan, 
but no problems were spotted by it.

I've been looking through all the logs I can think of, but seen nothing 
that meets the eye. 

One thing that has been haunting me is this error message:
ldconfig: Cannot mmap file /lib/libslang.so.1-UFT8.
I suppose that came in with a typo (UFT8 vs. UTF8), since I forgot to 
change my sources.list to stable shortly after woody was released back 
in the day. However, I've lived with this since then, and it had never 
any performance input before. It's quite funny that it remains though, 
I've upgraded the whole system since then... 

So, well, I have a system here that borders on unusable and no idea how 
to fix it. Where would you start if you had a *really* slow system?

Best,

Kjetil
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