Re: /media - create directory on usb device insertion

[Chris]

On Tuesday 17 January 2006 19:04, Florian Kulzer wrote:
> Christof Hurschler wrote:
> > On a freinds newly installed testing machine usb partitions that are
> > plugged in are added to /media as sda1 for example.
> >
> > On my older machine, also running testing, this does not occur.  Which
> > package is doing this, or how can I enable this functionality?
>
> Hi Chris,
>
> I think you need to do the following:
>
> 1) Install the packages "udev", "dbus-1" and "hal".
>
> 2) Install the package "pmount" and add your user to the group
> "plugdev". This user can now mount/unmount all pluggable devices via the
> pmount/pumount command without the need for a corresponding entry in
> /etc/fstab.
>
> 3) If you use KDE you can choose to have icons appear on the desktop
> whenever such a device is plugged in; you set this in the KDE Control
> Center > Desktop > Behavior > Device Icons. I am sure that Gnome has a
> similar option.
>
> 4) If you do not want to depend on KDE or Gnome you can probably use the
> packages "autofs" and "am-utils" for mounting the devices automatically.
> I have never tried this myself, though, therefore I can't give you more
> specific advice on this.
>
> I hope this helps.
>
> Regards,
> Florian

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Re: su/sudo cannot X

[Edward J. Shornock]

theo wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> 
> Lei Kong wrote:
>>> $xhost +
>>> $ sudo -s
>>> #kedit 
>>> kedit: cannot connect to X server
> You may want to try
> sudo -H kedit
> or reconsider using X applications as root.
> 
> You can also try
> sudo -H bash
> or
> sudo -H xterm
> if you want a root shell able to use X apps.



Or you can try "sux"




# apt-cache show sux
Package: sux
Priority: optional
Section: admin
Installed-Size: 64
Maintainer: Millis Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Architecture: all
Version: 1.0.1-3
Recommends: xbase-clients
Filename: pool/main/s/sux/sux_1.0.1-3_all.deb
Size: 8560
MD5sum: 868e114a14297b521a55a329c45c7d3b
Description: wrapper around su which will transfer your X credentials
 Sux is a wrapper around the standard su command which will transfer
 your X credentials to the target user.
 .
 http://sourceforge.net/projects/sux/
 ( from http://fgouget.free.fr/sux/ )
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Re: ktuberling

[Marc Shapiro]

Elmer E. Dow wrote:



Renamed ~.kde/share/config/ktuberlingrc and it works just fine now. 


I thank you and my four-year-old user thanks you.

Elmer



Thank YOU.  I was unaware of this program until you mentioned it.  Now 
MY daughter (4, but almost 5) wants to play it all the time.  In another 
couple of weeks she should have her own computer running kde and she can 
play it to her heart's content.


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Re: Most directories locked read-only: how to unlock them?

[John Hasler]

Mike writes:
> I think the easiest would be to use a LiveCD, like KNOPPIX, and edit the
> fstab that way.

Just remount the partition.  man mount
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Re: su/sudo cannot X

[Paul Johnson]

On Tuesday 17 January 2006 14:29, Lei Kong wrote:

> $xhost +
> $ sudo -s
> #kedit
> kedit: cannot connect to X server

Leave off the xhost line when using sudo.  It inheirets the parent shell's 
environment.

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Re: Most directories locked read-only: how to unlock them?

[Mike McCarty]

Ken Heard wrote:

Daniel B. wrote:


That looks like you mistyped "defaults" as "drfaults" in your
/etc/fstab file.



I was well aware that I mistyped "defaults" as my original post 
indicated.  I was also aware that this error caused the root directory 
to be mounted read-only.  Also as my original post indicated, my first 
query was how to change the mount to read-write without having to 
reinstall the whole operating system.


Regards,


I think the easiest would be to use a LiveCD, like KNOPPIX,
and edit the fstab that way.

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Re: su/sudo cannot X

[Lei Kong]

On Tuesday 17 January 2006 19:17, you wrote:
> On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 17:29 -0500, Lei Kong wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have a strange problem with my thinkpad z60t, running debian testing.
> > I ran these commands in konsole or xterm under kde:
> >
> > $xhost +
> > $ sudo -s
> > #kedit
> > kedit: cannot connect to X server
> >
> > What is wrong?
> > My desktop runs debian testing too, but after su or sudo,
> > root can open windows even without xhost +.
> >
> > xserver-xorg 6.8.2.dfsg.1-11
> > sudo 1.6.8p12-1
> > kdebase   3.4.3-3
> >
> > Can someone enlighten me?
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Lei Kong
>
> This should be considered to be a security feature. X generally does not
> permit root logins and for the same reason, root (via sudo) cannot
> access the X system.

Thanks, but, with "xhost +", root should be able to start X applications.
Like I said, I don't have such a problem with my desktop.

Lei
>
> Thanks,
> Martin OConnor


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Re: AMD64 "Etch" Net-Install Help

[thierry]

Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote:


Roni Rachi wrote:

 


I have the net-install Debian "Etch" AMD64 version. When I select any
of the US servers, it will download some files but then stop and say
Could not find security updates at security.debian.org
, so then I continue and it asks me if I
want to be in the Debian popularity group, I say no to this and
continue. After that it says a lot of errors and says "aptitude
failed" and something was not installable. My system specs are as
follows:

CPU: AMD Athlon 64 3000+ overclocked at 1.998GHz (original clock 1.8GHz)
Motherboard: Asus A8N-E nForce 4 Ultra
Video Card: Asus Extreme N6600 Silencer (nVidia GeForce 6600 GPU)
RAM: OCZ Premium-Series 1gb (2x512mb) PC3200 DDR400 DDR SDRAM in Dual
Channel Configuration

Thanks in advance if you can address this problem.
   



Can you send us the error messages? And have you tried with an non-US
server?

Chris.


 


Hi, again!
Did you, as I told you try another image of netinstall? One from an 
other day. The very same problem occurs to me about two weeks ago, wit a 
configuration similar to yours, AMD 3200, asus A8N-E, 1 G Ram in 
2-512 The main problem, I guess as you did not post the error 
messages, is that same package are broken, and the installer does not 
want to install anything. In my case it was some libs for a game in KDE, 
and a few other things!!!
So I went for one box installing a basic box, and fetching the rest the 
hard way: apt-get install... Found it painfull, so I tried a newer, or 
older, don't recall, I did so many trials, image and it finally worked, 
except for KDE, but that is 'only' about 10 metapackages to install after.



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Re: su/sudo cannot X

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Lei Kong wrote:
> $xhost +
> $ sudo -s
> #kedit 
> kedit: cannot connect to X server
You may want to try
sudo -H kedit
or reconsider using X applications as root.

You can also try
sudo -H bash
or
sudo -H xterm
if you want a root shell able to use X apps.

Cheers,
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Re: You have been invited to join 'FreePHP'

[Clive Menzies]

On (18/01/06 00:22), Richard Lyons wrote:
> On Tuesday, 17 January 2006 at 18:48:47 +, martin wrote:
> [...]
> > 
> > 
> > I got a reply from Dan Trappe :)
> > 
> > "I am still alive and still in Sheffield And still working for
> > PlusNet ." sent with OE6 lol
> 
> OT (if this ever was a topic), but, apropos PlusNet, what does anyone
> here know of them?  Their website is easily the worst I've tried to get
> info from recently, but I'm looking for a new broadband supplier and
> their deal looks slightly cheaper than freedom2surf, which in turn is
> cheaper than ukfsn.

We've been with them for ADSL since July 2002, few outages; very
occasional service glitches (where they needed to upgrade capacity) but
less, recently.

We don't use them much for web hosting although our own site is still
with them - not great for php/mysql setups.  But as a broadband
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and some with VPN between home/office.

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Re: Debian Mailing Lists Survey

[Richard Lyons]

On Tuesday, 17 January 2006 at 15:22:25 -0700, Paul E Condon wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 17, 2006 at 06:46:48PM +0100, Johannes Wiedersich wrote:
[...]
> > 
> > I'm not too big a fan of too many surveys... but that's my personal 
> > opinion.
> > 
> > Johannes
> > 
> 
> Actually, prior to OP message showing up on this list, I got the same 
> message addressed directly to me. Since I got my own copy, and you
> apparently did not, I suppose that you didn't make the cut as a
> private enterprise spammer of this list. ;-)
> 
> The questionaire seems harmless. Allowing academic types to research
> this community might make open source less strange and frightening
> to victims of the evil empire.


Agreed.  The survey didn't look as though it would reveal anything of
interest, but seemed harmless enough.

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Re: Where to find... NOW: update - 2.6.15 on sarge: boots but some problems remain

[A. F. Cano]

On Sun, Jan 15, 2006 at 01:19:15AM +, Adam James wrote:
> On Sat, 2006-01-14 at 18:45 -0500, A. F. Cano wrote:
> > > If you intend to generate an initrd image for your kernel, you'll need
> > > to backport an unstable initrd generator (such as yaird or initramfs)
> > > for it to play nice.
> > 
> > Mmm...  What's the advantage of doing this?  Can I do without?  Ok,
> > I've downloaded the latest of both, just in case...
> 
> An initrd image is a small ramdisk, which enables the kernel to load
> modules without having to mount the partition containing /lib/modules.
> 
> This is useful for distributions, as the kernel can remain small and
> modular while supporting all possible hardware types. Essentially an
> initrd image allows you to generate a "one size fits all" kernel that
> will boot on the vast majority of hardware.
> 
> If you ensure support for your disk controller is compiled into the
> kernel, then there is no real need for an initrd image.

Thanks for the clarification (and to everyone else that replied).
I was actually wondering if one of those two packages that don't
exist in sarge were necessary.  I had already found out long ago
that a custom kernel based on the .config file of the standard
distribution kernel wouldn't boot without an initrd image.

In any case, here's what I did and, although I overcame some
problems and the sarge computer in question now runs a 2.6.15 kernel,
I still don't get anything on the input section of the second soundcard
(SB0090 Audigy) in Kmix and can't record anything.  Still, playback
works and Kmix shows both sound cards.  It appears that all the
relevant drivers were loaded correctly, although there's some odd
behavior in the assigning of the IRQs, which are probably the cause
of the input part not working.  It is not possible to remove the
first sound card as it is built into the motherboard.

One other thing: it appears that the kernel assigns devices (such
as /dev/dsp and /dev/dsp1) randomly.  Even though at the moment
/dev/dsp is assigned to the audigy card and so xmms and other
audio software work as expected, it has not been the case before.
It would be nice if there were some application like ifrename to
bind a specific sound card to /dev/dsp, /dev/dsp1, /dev/dspn, in
the same way that ifrename binds eth0, eth1, etc... to specific
hardware.  Is there such an application? Or is there a way (via
config files maybe) to force some order in the sound cards?

I have used alsaconf to configure (and load the drivers for) only
one sound card, but that doesn't solve the (likely) problem of lower
level interrupt routing.

Ok, so here's what I did:

Downloaded the linux-source-2.6.15 deb file, installed it with dpkg -i.

Used make-kpkg to create the kernel-image-2.6.15 deb file, after copying
the /boot/config-2.6.8-1-i386 (the standard sarge kernel) to .config
and answering (mostly with the default answers) all the new questions.

Installed the resulting kernel-image-2.6.15 deb file with dpkg -i.

Ran "mkinitrd -o /boot/initrd-2.6.15 /lib/modules/2.6.15"
and then added "initrd  /boot/initrd-2.6.15"
to the /boot/menu.lst file under the proper entries for the new kernel.

This was enough to get the system to boot the 2.6.15 kernel, but the
first immediate result was that neither the sound card nor the old
legacy ISA network card worked anymore.  Out of the box the 2.6.15
kernel doesn't assign the IRQs properly, most likely it ignored the
BIOS reserving irq 10 for the "legacy ISA card".  I have sent a
bug report about it.  The only way to avoid this was to boot with
the option pci=noacpi.  Booting with this option, IRQ 10 was left
alone for the network card and IRQ 9 was used for the following
devices: 0a.0 (Audigy Audio), 0c.0 (Yamaha Audio, the on-board
sound card), 0a.2 (the IEEE1394 interface on the Audigy sound card).

Hopefully some tweaking of kernel options and manual setting of
IRQs will fix this.  Does anyone have any settings that work with
the SB Audigy cards and kernel 2.6.15 (or any other 2.6 kernel)?
Or should the kernel allocate properly the IRQs?  Is it a problem
that IRQ 9 is shared between these devices? or should all of them
work as it stands now?

If anyone wants to see the dmesg output, it's in the bug report
(bug #348463)

Thanks for any further help.

A.


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Re: AMD64 "Etch" Net-Install Help

[Christoph Anton Mitterer]

Roni Rachi wrote:

> I have the net-install Debian "Etch" AMD64 version. When I select any
> of the US servers, it will download some files but then stop and say
> Could not find security updates at security.debian.org
> , so then I continue and it asks me if I
> want to be in the Debian popularity group, I say no to this and
> continue. After that it says a lot of errors and says "aptitude
> failed" and something was not installable. My system specs are as
> follows:
>
> CPU: AMD Athlon 64 3000+ overclocked at 1.998GHz (original clock 1.8GHz)
> Motherboard: Asus A8N-E nForce 4 Ultra
> Video Card: Asus Extreme N6600 Silencer (nVidia GeForce 6600 GPU)
> RAM: OCZ Premium-Series 1gb (2x512mb) PC3200 DDR400 DDR SDRAM in Dual
> Channel Configuration
>
> Thanks in advance if you can address this problem.

Can you send us the error messages? And have you tried with an non-US
server?

Chris.


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Re: How to change gtk font size

[Christoph Nenning]

> Does anyone knows how to?.
> I have read a bit about gtkrc but haven't find
> anything useful yet. Any help is appreciated.
>
> Thanx everyone.
> Alejandro
>


I had the problem that the font in some gtk apps was very small, e.g. xmms.
Installing the packages:

xfonts-75dpi-transcoded
and
xfonts-100dpi-transcoded

solved it for me.


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Re: You have been invited to join 'FreePHP'

[Richard Lyons]

On Tuesday, 17 January 2006 at 18:48:47 +, martin wrote:
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> 
> 
> I got a reply from Dan Trappe :)
> 
> "I am still alive and still in Sheffield And still working for
> PlusNet ." sent with OE6 lol

OT (if this ever was a topic), but, apropos PlusNet, what does anyone
here know of them?  Their website is easily the worst I've tried to get
info from recently, but I'm looking for a new broadband supplier and
their deal looks slightly cheaper than freedom2surf, which in turn is
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Re: su/sudo cannot X

[Martin OConnor]

On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 17:29 -0500, Lei Kong wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I have a strange problem with my thinkpad z60t, running debian testing.
> I ran these commands in konsole or xterm under kde:
> 
> $xhost +
> $ sudo -s
> #kedit 
> kedit: cannot connect to X server
> 
> What is wrong?
> My desktop runs debian testing too, but after su or sudo,
> root can open windows even without xhost +.
> 
> xserver-xorg 6.8.2.dfsg.1-11
> sudo 1.6.8p12-1
> kdebase   3.4.3-3
> 
> Can someone enlighten me?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Lei Kong
> 
> 
This should be considered to be a security feature. X generally does not
permit root logins and for the same reason, root (via sudo) cannot
access the X system.

Thanks,
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On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 16:27 -0500, Keith O'Brien wrote:
> On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 14:17 -0700, Glenn English wrote:
> > On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 17:11 -0300, Michael Fernández M. wrote:
> > 
> > > i want to buy a Debian Book, Someone can recommends a good Debian book?
> > 
> Accidentally responded only to poster. 
> 
> Here is a free book online that you can also buy: 
> http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/debian/chapter/book/
> 
> GL...
> 
> > I've gotten a lot of useful info out of Martin Kraftt's "The Debian
> > System." It covers the current stable (Sarge). Get the European printing
> > if you can, from open source press (amazon.de has it).
> > 
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The Debian System: Concepts and Techniques
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Re: Replacement for webmin in Debian? was: Debian Weekly News - January 17th, 2006

[Mike Fedyk]

Michael Bellears wrote:

I have a few installs that are using webmin.  What packages 
in debian provide similar functionality in a web based 
interface?  I looked at gosa, but it is ldap centric and 
didn't seem to provide the general purpose web config 
interface that webmin does.
   



Any reason you can't use the source version directly from
http://www.webmin.com/? It's trivial to install (Unpack, run setup.sh),
then all future updates are done within webmin.
 

No reason why I can't.  It's just that one of the reasons why I like 
Debian is that most of what I need is already packaged, and another 
thing I don't have to worry about from the perspective of security updates.



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RE: Replacement for webmin in Debian? was: Debian Weekly News - January 17th, 2006

[Michael Bellears]

> 
> I have a few installs that are using webmin.  What packages 
> in debian provide similar functionality in a web based 
> interface?  I looked at gosa, but it is ldap centric and 
> didn't seem to provide the general purpose web config 
> interface that webmin does.

Any reason you can't use the source version directly from
http://www.webmin.com/? It's trivial to install (Unpack, run setup.sh),
then all future updates are done within webmin.

Regards,
MB

su/sudo cannot X

[Lei Kong]

Hi,

I have a strange problem with my thinkpad z60t, running debian testing.
I ran these commands in konsole or xterm under kde:

$xhost +
$ sudo -s
#kedit 
kedit: cannot connect to X server

What is wrong?
My desktop runs debian testing too, but after su or sudo,
root can open windows even without xhost +.

xserver-xorg 6.8.2.dfsg.1-11
sudo 1.6.8p12-1
kdebase   3.4.3-3

Can someone enlighten me?

Thanks.

Lei Kong


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Replacement for webmin in Debian? was: Debian Weekly News - January 17th, 2006

[Mike Fedyk]

Removed Packages. 22 packages have been [76]removed from the Debian
archive during the past week:

76. http://ftp-master.debian.org/removals.txt

* webmin-* -- Web interface for system maintenance, and modules
  [94]Bug#343897: Request of maintainer, outdated; unmaintained
 

[ please reply to my address also because I am not subscribed to 
debian-user ]


I have a few installs that are using webmin.  What packages in debian 
provide similar functionality in a web based interface?  I looked at 
gosa, but it is ldap centric and didn't seem to provide the general 
purpose web config interface that webmin does.


Thanks,

Mike


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Re: (unknown)

[Jan Schledermann]

El Virolo wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> I recently reinstalled Debian Sid on my Athlon XP machine, with KDE
> 3.5. The problem is I can't launch KDE : it freezes and gets back to
> KDM as soon as it starts displaying "initializing hardware" ... Is
> there a log file I can have a look at ? Is it a KDE or udev/hotplug
> problem ?
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> 
> ElVirolo
Do an update/upgrade. The replacement for the broken x11-common is already
available.
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Re: strange outbound connection

[Justin Guerin]

On Tuesday 17 January 2006 07:46, johannes wrote:
> Sarunas Burdulis wrote:
> >>The firewall (firestrarter gui to be precise), just shows a line in
> >>active connections (ie. NOT in blocked connections) with an 'unknown
> >>service' on port 1056 to that external host. I'm just wondering how
> >>firestarter knows about this connection.
> >>
> >>I don't know how to proceed. Maybe it's just a bug in firestarter to be
> >>ignored?
> >
> > What about `lsof -i`?
>
> nothing:
> llserv:~# lsof -i @217.91.13.234
> llserv:~# lsof -i @213.20.165.177
>
> (I now have two of them, according to firestarter listening on different
> ports: 1054 and 33414)
>
> > Sarunas Burdulis
>
> Johannes

If you're worried that you've got a service running that you don't want, 
try, as root, 'lsof | grep LISTEN'.  This will show you all programs that 
are actively listening for connections, even if they're bound to the local 
host.

If that doesn't solve the mystery, how about the output of, as root, 'lsof | 
egrep "TCP|UDP"'?  That will show you some established network connections 
(mounts are missing for me), and the program responsible.  I don't know if 
anything will show up here that doesn't show up in 'netstat --ip', though.

Hopefully, one of those will point you in the right direction.

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Re: Debian Mailing Lists Survey

[Paul E Condon]

On Tue, Jan 17, 2006 at 06:46:48PM +0100, Johannes Wiedersich wrote:
> Johannes Wiedersich wrote:
> >SkSowe wrote:
> >
> >>Dear participant,
> >>
> >>We have completed a study which utilized data from 3 Debian mailing 
> >>lists (Kde, Mentors, Users) located at Debian list archives 
> >>http://lists.debian.org/.
> >>Our data extraction and analysis shows that you participated in these 
> >>lists during the period January 2001-September 2004. We would be 
> >>grateful if you can spare us your valuable time and complete a survey 
> >>we are running, located at: 
> >>http://swserv1.csd.auth.gr/survey/index.php?sid=17
> 
> Sorry for maybe being a bit too sarcastic in my first reply. Maybe you 
> might just send a clarification note about whom you would like to 
> participate in your survey.
> 
> I'm not too big a fan of too many surveys... but that's my personal 
> opinion.
> 
> Johannes
> 

Actually, prior to OP message showing up on this list, I got the same 
message addressed directly to me. Since I got my own copy, and you
apparently did not, I suppose that you didn't make the cut as a
private enterprise spammer of this list. ;-)

The questionaire seems harmless. Allowing academic types to research
this community might make open source less strange and frightening
to victims of the evil empire.

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Title: E-mail message content



Dear participant,
 
We have completed a study which utilized data from 3 Debian mailing lists (Kde, Mentors, Users) located at Debian list archives http://lists.debian.org/.
Our data extraction and analysis shows that you participated in these lists during the period January 2001-September 2004. We would be grateful if you can spare us your valuable time and complete a survey we are running, located at: http://swserv1.csd.auth.gr/survey/index.php?sid=17
 
The information will solely be used for academic research purpose and all particulars relating to participants (names, emails) are anonymous.  
 
Our data contains two variables; posters and repliers. We have made every effort to separate the emails in each case to avoid duplicating emails. However, we would like to apologize if you receive more than one copy of this email. 
 
At the end of the study we wish to express our acknowledgement to all individuals who participated in the said Debian lists and took part in this survey.
 
In expectation of your responses, we remain.
 
Sincerely
 
 
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Re: linux 2.6.15 and overheating

[Alvin Oga]

On Tue, 17 Jan 2006, Paul Johnson wrote:

> On Tuesday 17 January 2006 10:40, John L Fjellstad wrote:
> > After I upgraded the linux kernel to a custom compiled 2.6.15, I keep
> > getting shutdown because of overheating (one of the last message is
> > something about the temperature hitting 93 C or something).  This never
> > happened to me when I run 2.6.14 or earlier.
> >
> > Is it because 2.6.15 has some more functionality, and it gives me
> > warning, or is it because there is a bug in 2.6.15? How do I find out?

you probably turned on i2c monitoring and the previous kernel didn't
have it working/supported for the hardware ??

change the settings for when the system should shutdown in the
i2c config files, but leave and still use the bios shutdown settings 

- ditto what paul j posted

c ya
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Re: Debian Book

[M.]

Thanks!!

i will buy "The Debian System." by amazon.

Michael.-

El mar, 17-01-2006 a las 18:08 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:
> Glenn English wrote:
> > On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 17:11 -0300, Michael Fernández M. wrote:
> >
> >   
> >> i want to buy a Debian Book, Someone can recommends a good Debian book?
> >> 
> >
> > I've gotten a lot of useful info out of Martin Kraftt's "The Debian
> > System." It covers the current stable (Sarge). Get the European printing
> > if you can, from open source press (amazon.de has it).
> >
> >   
> I have just bought this book and am impressed so far.
> Regards,
> Dave Whelan.
> 
> 


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Re: Most directories locked read-only: how to unlock them?

[Ken Heard]

Daniel B. wrote:


That looks like you mistyped "defaults" as "drfaults" in your
/etc/fstab file.


	I was well aware that I mistyped "defaults" as my original post 
indicated.  I was also aware that this error caused the root directory 
to be mounted read-only.  Also as my original post indicated, my first 
query was how to change the mount to read-write without having to 
reinstall the whole operating system.


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Re: Debian Book

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Glenn English wrote:

On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 17:11 -0300, Michael Fernández M. wrote:

  

i want to buy a Debian Book, Someone can recommends a good Debian book?



I've gotten a lot of useful info out of Martin Kraftt's "The Debian
System." It covers the current stable (Sarge). Get the European printing
if you can, from open source press (amazon.de has it).

  

I have just bought this book and am impressed so far.
Regards,
Dave Whelan.


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Re: linux 2.6.15 and overheating

[Paul Johnson]

On Tuesday 17 January 2006 10:40, John L Fjellstad wrote:
> After I upgraded the linux kernel to a custom compiled 2.6.15, I keep
> getting shutdown because of overheating (one of the last message is
> something about the temperature hitting 93 C or something).  This never
> happened to me when I run 2.6.14 or earlier.
>
> Is it because 2.6.15 has some more functionality, and it gives me
> warning, or is it because there is a bug in 2.6.15? How do I find out?

No...more "functionality" is not a factor of heat.  Making the CPU work harder 
would be, but I haven't noticed similar heat increases.  On the contrary, my 
laptop run inferno hot in Windows even while idle but usually feels close to 
the same temperature as it does when powered down unless I'm really doing 
something CPU intensive under Linux.

> Also, since this is a laptop, it's not like I can exchange the fan, so I
> just wondering if the machine is about to die of exhaustion.

Clean out the exhaust port on that, and replace the fan if it never comes on.  
If it is out of warranty, it's a do-it-yourself or very-expensive job.  If 
you do it yourself, google and try to find teardown walkthroughs and take 
notes and/or digital photos as you go along so you have something really good 
to go back on when you back up (or if you discover how to do something new, 
now you can document it!).  You can commonly find spare parts for laptops 
online at prices of varying degrees of fairness (sometimes very cheap, 
sometimes you'd wonder if they'd roe-sham-boe you for the part instead).

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Re: Why is Yahoo bulk mailing my Exim mail?

[Paul Johnson]

On Tuesday 17 January 2006 12:29, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Does anyone have any ideas as to why does Yahoo wants to put this
> e-mail into it's "Bulk Mail" folder:

That's odd that they would pass judgement, given that they allow spammers to 
use Yahoo Groups and Yahoo Stores with great longevity.  But questions about 
"Why is mail only *not* going to " is best answered by the variable.  You 
need to contact Yahoo directly about this.

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Re: Debian Book

[martin f krafft]

also sprach Glenn English <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.01.17.2217 +0100]:
> > i want to buy a Debian Book, Someone can recommends a good Debian book?
> 
> I've gotten a lot of useful info out of Martin Kraftt's "The Debian
> System." It covers the current stable (Sarge). Get the European printing
> if you can, from open source press (amazon.de has it).

http://debiansystem.info/about and http://debiansystem.info/order

Thanks for the recommendation.

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Re: Trouble with nvidia glx.

[sebastien marbrier]

Le Lundi 16 Janvier 2006 02:15, Sridhar M.A. a écrit :
> On Sun, Jan 15, 2006 at 09:58:25PM +0100, sebastien marbrier wrote:
>> My dmesg echoes
>> nvidia: module license 'NVIDIA' taints kernel.
>> ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKA] enabled at IRQ 9
>> ACPI: PCI Interrupt :01:00.0[A] -> Link [LNKA] -> GSI 9 (level,
>> low) -> IRQ 9
>> NVRM: loading NVIDIA Linux x86 NVIDIA Kernel Module  1.0-8178  Wed Dec
>> 14 16:22:51 PST 2005
>> ACPI: PCI Interrupt :01:00.0[A] -> Link [LNKA] -> GSI 9 (level,
>> low) -> IRQ 9
>> NVRM: loading NVIDIA Linux x86 NVIDIA Kernel Module  1.0-8178  Wed Dec
>> 14 16:22:51 PST 2005
>> agpgart: Found an AGP 2.0 compliant device at :00:00.0.
>> agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at :00:00.0 into 4x mode
>> agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at :01:00.0 into 4x mode
>> agpgart: Found an AGP 2.0 compliant device at :00:00.0.
>> agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at :00:00.0 into 4x mode
>> agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at :01:00.0 into 4x mode
>
> I just checked my kernel config and found that
>
># CONFIG_AGP is not set
>
> I seem to vaguely recall that nvidia drivers had some problems with the
> kernel agpgart. Why not try compiling the kernel disabling the same?
>
> Regards,

I've just rebuild my kernel without agpgart and even reinstalled the driver... 
nothing has changed... I guess I have to try the xorg backport I will tell 
you after my try.

Have a good day.

Sebastien.

AMD64 "Etch" Net-Install Help

[Roni Rachi]

I have the net-install Debian "Etch" AMD64 version. When I select any
of the US servers, it will download some files but then stop and say
Could not find security updates at security.debian.org
, so then I continue and it asks me if I want to be in the Debian
popularity group, I say no to this and continue. After that it says a
lot of errors and says "aptitude failed" and something was not
installable. My system specs are as follows:
CPU: AMD Athlon 64 3000+ overclocked at 1.998GHz (original clock 1.8GHz)Motherboard: Asus A8N-E nForce 4 UltraVideo Card: Asus Extreme N6600 Silencer (nVidia GeForce 6600 GPU)RAM: OCZ Premium-Series 1gb (2x512mb) PC3200 DDR400 DDR SDRAM in Dual Channel Configuration
Thanks in advance if you can address this problem.

Re: Debian Book

[M.]

Thanks a lot!

i´will take a loot at it.

Michael.-

El mar, 17-01-2006 a las 16:27 -0500, Keith O'Brien escribió:
> On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 14:17 -0700, Glenn English wrote:
> > On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 17:11 -0300, Michael Fernández M. wrote:
> > 
> > > i want to buy a Debian Book, Someone can recommends a good Debian book?
> > 
> Accidentally responded only to poster. 
> 
> Here is a free book online that you can also buy: 
> http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/debian/chapter/book/
> 
> GL...
> 
> > I've gotten a lot of useful info out of Martin Kraftt's "The Debian
> > System." It covers the current stable (Sarge). Get the European printing
> > if you can, from open source press (amazon.de has it).
> > 
> > -- 
> > Glenn English
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
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Re: Debian Book

[Keith O'Brien]

On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 14:17 -0700, Glenn English wrote:
> On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 17:11 -0300, Michael Fernández M. wrote:
> 
> > i want to buy a Debian Book, Someone can recommends a good Debian book?
> 
Accidentally responded only to poster. 

Here is a free book online that you can also buy: 
http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/debian/chapter/book/

GL...

> I've gotten a lot of useful info out of Martin Kraftt's "The Debian
> System." It covers the current stable (Sarge). Get the European printing
> if you can, from open source press (amazon.de has it).
> 
> -- 
> Glenn English
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> 
> 


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Re: KDE Freezes and exits

[Kent West]

Star King of the Grape Trees wrote:


ALWAYS use a subject!

El Virolo wrote:


Hi all,

I recently reinstalled Debian Sid on my Athlon XP machine, with KDE
3.5. The problem is I can't launch KDE : it freezes and gets back to
KDM as soon as it starts displaying "initializing hardware" ... Is
there a log file I can have a look at ? Is it a KDE or udev/hotplug
problem ?


Oh, a message with a subject line. Now I can pay attention to this post.

I'd probably start by trying to start KDE with the "startkde" command, 
rather than using a login manager or than by using "startx". (Disable 
any login managers first.)


Failing that, I'd put "startkde" in my "~/.xinitrc" file and try "startx".

A problem I've noticed in the past few weeks is improper ownership of 
"/tmp/.ICE-unix"; I believe a "chown -R root.root /tmp/.ICE-unix" has 
worked around this problem for me.


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Re: Debian Book

[Glenn English]

On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 17:11 -0300, Michael Fernández M. wrote:

> i want to buy a Debian Book, Someone can recommends a good Debian book?

I've gotten a lot of useful info out of Martin Kraftt's "The Debian
System." It covers the current stable (Sarge). Get the European printing
if you can, from open source press (amazon.de has it).

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Why is Yahoo bulk mailing my Exim mail?

[spamhole]

Does anyone have any ideas as to why does Yahoo wants to put this
e-mail into it's "Bulk Mail" folder:

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mydomain.org and mail.mydomain.org is a real domain with valid DNS.

X.X.X.X is a Covad static IP in a business class netblock and is not
listed in any RBL. I have a Postfix server in the same block and its mail
does not get put in the "Bulk Mail" folder.

This is an out of the box Exim config.

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Re: apache2

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> You probably have the content negotiation on, so the pages show in the
> preferred language (which is set in the browser). English is probably
> the default, when the browser doesn't have preference (in Firefox Edit
> -> Preferences -> Advanced -> General -> Edit languages...).

yes u are right.

> Why the documentation doesn't show from another machine could be
> because of the permissions. Check the /etc/apache2/conf.d/apache2-doc
> file and adjust the 'Allow from' according to your needs.

Again u are right.

thx


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Re: /media - create directory on usb device insertion

[Gabriel S Farrell]

On Tue, Jan 17, 2006 at 12:45:16PM +0100, Christof Hurschler wrote:
> On a freinds newly installed testing machine usb partitions that are plugged
> in are added to /media as sda1 for example.
> 
> On my older machine, also running testing, this does not occur.  Which
> package is doing this, or how can I enable this functionality?

usbmount does the trick for me.


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Re: More information about 'installer for the blind - Speakup"

[Charles Hallenbeck]

Hi,

On Wed, Dec 28, 2005 at 10:28:49AM +0100, Petra Ritter wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I am new to this List and a newbe to Linux as well. I hope I am on the
> 'right' list other way please point me to an list were I am 'right'.
> 
> I am visually impaired and I plan to setup a Debian system in the next
> flew months.
> 
> On the page http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/debian-installer/ I
> find some informations about an 'installer for the blind'.
> 
> Please could give me someone more information on this installer?
> Is it a specially installer or it it 'only' a boot floppy with support
> for speech and/or braille display which give access to the standard
> installer from Debian 3.1?

There is modified net-install CD image available that uses 
speakup-modified kernels, allowing independent installation of sarge 
with speech or braille. You may then choose to have one of those kernels 
installed in the running system. You can choose 2.4.27 or 2.6.8. It is 
otherwise a standard sarge net-install disk. You can find it at:

http://people.debian.org/~shane/netinst-speakup/

The iso image is 150 MB and has good documentation.

Chuck.


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Re: Photo collection management

[Richard Lyons]

On Tuesday, 17 January 2006 at 11:22:52 +0100, Piotr Kopszak wrote:
> Dear list, 
> 
> 
> Couple of days ago I decided  (evidently too late!) that the amount of
> pictures on CD-ROMs  and on my disks has attained  critical mass and I
> no  longer   am  able   to  get  any   orientation  whatsover   in  my
> pictures. That's probably the moment when most other people also think
> about finally  starting to use some collection  management software. I
> spent  couple of  days looking  but haven't  find anything  that would
> really suit my needs, that is:
> 
> 1. Possibility of cataloguing my old CD-ROMs without the need of copying
>them to disk. 
> 2. No need to rename any files. 
> 3. Possibility to read and write EXIF and IPTC data (and really use them in
>cataloguing pictures) 
> 
> I guess that's  it for now. I would be very  grateful if anyone shared
> his or her experiences in a similar case. 

I haven't tried this, but it strikes me you might be able to modify
qdig, the one-file gallery script to do this.  You'd need to enable it
to identify the CDs by whatever ID number CDs have, and to mod the code
(or perhaps just the setup segment) to use a 'qdig-files' directory on
your hard drive, presumably one subdirectory per CD.  I don't think it
would be wildly difficult, on the basis of my experience fiddling around
with the qdig code in the past.  If you do try this, I'm sure qdig-user
list will be interested in your efforts.

Just a fall-back option in case nobody comes up with a better idea.  

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[M.]

Hi... i new at this list

i want to buy a Debian Book, Someone can recommends a good Debian book?

Thanks a lot.-

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Re: linux 2.6.15 and overheating

[Micha Feigin]

On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 10:40:10 -0800
John L Fjellstad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> After I upgraded the linux kernel to a custom compiled 2.6.15, I keep
> getting shutdown because of overheating (one of the last message is
> something about the temperature hitting 93 C or something).  This never
> happened to me when I run 2.6.14 or earlier.
> 
> Is it because 2.6.15 has some more functionality, and it gives me
> warning, or is it because there is a bug in 2.6.15? How do I find out?
> 
> Also, since this is a laptop, it's not like I can exchange the fan, so I
> just wondering if the machine is about to die of exhaustion.
> 

Is it just turning off (which would imply bios shutdown I believe which means a
change in cooling behaviour) or is it a softer shutdown (which would mean
kernel).

I don't think this is kernel unless there is a problem with the fan and/or
temperature acpi modules causing the fan to stay off.

First thing you should is put your hand near the fan openings in the laptop and
make sure the fan is working when the machine is hot (you should feel hot air
blowing out). Also check the machine temperature and fan status according to
acpi. On my laptop the fan turns on when the cpu goes above 50 deg celsius.

you can see the temperature as the output of acpi -V

also check
/proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM/cooling_mode
/proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM/temperature
/proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM/state

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Re: strange outbound connection

[Tim Hardy]

johannes wrote:

Sarunas Burdulis wrote:


The firewall (firestrarter gui to be precise), just shows a line in
active connections (ie. NOT in blocked connections) with an 'unknown
service' on port 1056 to that external host. I'm just wondering how
firestarter knows about this connection.

I don't know how to proceed. Maybe it's just a bug in firestarter to be
ignored?



What about `lsof -i`?



nothing:
llserv:~# lsof -i @217.91.13.234
llserv:~# lsof -i @213.20.165.177

(I now have two of them, according to firestarter listening on different 
ports: 1054 and 33414)




Sorry to say but I'm as baffled as you are. If firestarter can see them 
listening then I don't see why netstat can't do so too. ethereal won't 
pick up anything if there's no traffic.


Why don't you block them in firestarter and see what stops working... ;)

If you're really worried you could install and run chkrootkit to see if 
there's anything lurking on your machine that shouldn't be there but I'm 
sure you'll find nothing and that there's an innocent explanation for 
all this.


Sorry I can't help more.


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Re: group callander program

[Richard Lyons]

On Monday, 16 January 2006 at 22:34:10 -0600, Rodney Richison wrote:
> 
> 
[...]
> >
> >
> > I personally use egroupware.  Since it's web based, I can access it from
> > anywhere.  It can do many more things than calendaring, but you can
> > limit it to
> > just calendaring if you would like.
> >
> That's one that I haven't checked out. Though phpcalendar didn't do much
> for me...

I use egroupware too, though it is a tad slow.  phpgroupware wouldn't
run at all when I tried, but I'm sure that was pilot error really.

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Problems to visualize files

[Romulo Sousa]

Hello,

I've been trying to configure my FTP server using wu-ftpd and I've got
a (classical) problem regarding the visualization of my chroot()'ed
directory. The configuration has been change 3 times and the last one
has been almost "copied" and "pasted".
Throughout the MS-DOS prompt (sorry...unfortunatelly I use Windows in
my job. The Linux box runs at my home box), I can see the contents of
the directory and even upload and download files. But using Leech FTP
or WS_FTP the contents are not allowed to be seen.
I've already configured my Linux box as the howto on the following link:

http://www.wu-ftpd.org/HOWTO/guest.HOWTO

on the 'ls' dependencies part but with no success.

Also, my Linux box is a Debian one, running the kernel 2.4.27-2-k7.
The output from my prompt I've got under my Windows box is the
following:

ftp> ls
200 PORT command successful.
150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for file list.
test_file.txt
226 Transfer complete.

I've tried to configure my FTP client but there are not so much
usefull configurations to be changed there.

My directory tree is the following:
/home/web# ls -l
total 1
drwxr-xr-x 5 mort client 224 Jan 17 17:08 mort

/home/web# ls -l mort/
total 382

d--x--x--x 2 root daemon 72 Jan 13 18:55 bin
d--x--x--x 2 root daemon 96 Jan 13 18:49 etc
d--x--x--x 2 root daemon176 Jan 17 16:46 lib


/home/web# ls -l mort/lib/
total 1209
---x--x--x 1 root root   88168 Jan 17 16:43 ld-2.3.5.so
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  11 Jan 17 16:45 ld-linux.so.2 -> ld-2.3.5.so
-r-xr-xr-x 1 root root 1144316 Jan 17 16:44 libc-2.3.5.so
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  13 Jan 17 16:46 libc.so.6 -> libc-2.3.5.so

Please, let me hear whatever help you might give me.

Best regards,

Romulo Sousa

linux 2.6.15 and overheating

[John L Fjellstad]

After I upgraded the linux kernel to a custom compiled 2.6.15, I keep
getting shutdown because of overheating (one of the last message is
something about the temperature hitting 93 C or something).  This never
happened to me when I run 2.6.14 or earlier.

Is it because 2.6.15 has some more functionality, and it gives me
warning, or is it because there is a bug in 2.6.15? How do I find out?

Also, since this is a laptop, it's not like I can exchange the fan, so I
just wondering if the machine is about to die of exhaustion.

-- 
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alienware w/ sarge

[noc ops]

Hi,

Is anyone using debian sarge on a recent alienware hardware?
http://www.alienware.com/Product_pages/notebook_all_small_bus.aspx?cs=5

Looking for feedback before I go about and procure one.


thanks for your time!


regards,
/virendra


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Re: KDE Freezes and exits

[Star King of the Grape Trees]

ALWAYS use a subject!

El Virolo wrote:


Hi all,

I recently reinstalled Debian Sid on my Athlon XP machine, with KDE
3.5. The problem is I can't launch KDE : it freezes and gets back to
KDM as soon as it starts displaying "initializing hardware" ... Is
there a log file I can have a look at ? Is it a KDE or udev/hotplug
problem ?

Thanks in advance,

ElVirolo

 




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RE: Fetchmail problems

[David Baron]

>Latest versions from Sid seem broken:
>1. pid files are not created
>2. EHLO syntax errors so connections not made, fail not fetched
>
>Any information on this? Fix?

Latest upgrade, 3rd in as many days, no better.
The 2nd problem may be due to exim4 which is the smtp server. This was also 
recently upgraded. Google item cite exim4 parameters which I am not using. 
"EHLO" occurs only in comments in the conf.templates.
Ideas?


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Re: You have been invited to join 'FreePHP'

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On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 11:36:20 -0600 (CST)
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looks more like spam to me - the list gets a lot of fishing and rubbish
mails ..

i wait to see if anyone replies ;) 

and then note if its anyone regular to the list 

play a waiting game m8


I got a reply from Dan Trappe :)

"I am still alive and still in Sheffield And still working for
PlusNet ." sent with OE6 lol


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Re: Building deb package frome installed files

[Виталий Ищенко]

Yeaaah, thanks a lot that's exactly what I wanted ;)

17.01.06, Stephen Cormier<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> написал(а):
> On Tuesday 17 January 2006 14:05, Виталий Ищенко wrote:
> > I have installed package i.e. apt-get install openoffice.org-core -t
> > unstable then i've deleted file openoffice.org-core_2.0.1-1_i386.deb
> > And now i want to build back this package with files, which have been
> > installed with apt-get
>
> Install dpkg-repack then use it to rebuild the package.
>
> Stephen
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rpmdb: unable to initialize mutex: Function not implemented

[Paul Smith]

Hi all;

I have an SRPM that I want to build on my Debian "testing" box.  It has
a TON of patches which I definitely don't want to have to try to apply
by hand.

So, I've installed rpm (4.4.1-4) and I installed the SRPM.  When I did
this I got a bunch of errors:

  # rpm -i .src.rpm
  rpmdb: unable to initialize mutex: Function not implemented
  rpmdb: /var/lib/rpm/__db.001: unable to initialize environment lock: Function 
not implemented
  error: db4 error(38) from dbenv->open: Function not implemented
  rpm: To install rpm packages on Debian systems, use alien. See README.Debian.
  error: cannot open Packages index using db3 - Function not implemented (38)
  error: cannot open Packages database in /var/lib/rpm

However, it did appear to work properly and unpack everything so I
ignored it.

So then I moved on to use rpmbuild -bp to create the source with all the
patches applied, and I got the same set of errors as above, but this
time it didn't do anything else but fail.


I Googled around and every reference I see on the web says "you have
LD_ASSUME_KERNEL set; don't set it".  But, in my case I _don't_ have
that variable set.

However, I _AM_ using an older 2.4 kernel (2.4.20).

Is this my problem?  Doesn't rpm (or db4 or whatever) work with 2.4
kernels anymore?  Really?

Anyone have any idea how to resolve this problem?

Thanks!


PS. I should point out I have no RPM db: the directory /var/lib/rpm is
empty.  But, running rpm --initdb ALSO fails with the above errors.

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Re: Most directories locked read-only: how to unlock them?

[Daniel B.]

Ken Heard wrote:

...
I first tried Steve Kemp's suggestion, because it was the simpler, 
as it did not require use of a live CDROM.  He warned me that the 
command "mount -n -o remount,rw /" might not work.  It didn't.  It returned


EXT3-fs: Unrecognized mount option "drfaults" or missing value
mount: / not mounted already, or bad option


That looks like you mistyped "defaults" as "drfaults" in your
/etc/fstab file.

Daniel





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[no subject]

[El Virolo]

Hi all,

I recently reinstalled Debian Sid on my Athlon XP machine, with KDE
3.5. The problem is I can't launch KDE : it freezes and gets back to
KDM as soon as it starts displaying "initializing hardware" ... Is
there a log file I can have a look at ? Is it a KDE or udev/hotplug
problem ?

Thanks in advance,

ElVirolo

(xorg) dead keys not working

[El Virolo]

Hi all,

I recently re-installed Debian Sid (because I had to perform a
low-level format on my hard drive) and I'm now experiencing an
irritating problem : the dead keys (such as shift, ctrl, etc ...) on
my keyboard aren't working (I use a French keyboard) ... I've tried
doing dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg but it still doesn't work ... BTW,
the system has got the latest updates ...


Thanks in advance,

ElVirolo

Re: Building deb package frome installed files

[Stephen Cormier]

On Tuesday 17 January 2006 14:05, Виталий Ищенко wrote:
> I have installed package i.e. apt-get install openoffice.org-core -t
> unstable then i've deleted file openoffice.org-core_2.0.1-1_i386.deb
> And now i want to build back this package with files, which have been
> installed with apt-get

Install dpkg-repack then use it to rebuild the package.

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Re: Building deb package frome installed files

[Виталий Ищенко]

Hm i only want to build package without it's dependencies
i don't want to mirror repository it's to expensive ;)

I have installed package i.e. apt-get install openoffice.org-core -t unstable
then i've deleted file openoffice.org-core_2.0.1-1_i386.deb
And now i want to build back this package with files, which have been
installed with apt-get
(dpkg)
all needed information is stored under /var/lib/dpkg


17.01.06, Rakotomandimby
Mihamina<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> написал(а):
> On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 20:41 +0300, Виталий Ищенко wrote:
> > I have cleared my cache of deb files and suddenly realized, that i ned
> > this deb packages to share them on local network...
> > Is there any utility to do this?
>
> And what about its dependencies?
> The best thing, in my opinion is to mirror a debian repository.
> There is apt-mirror, I think, for that.
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Re: /media - create directory on usb device insertion

[Florian Kulzer]

Christof Hurschler wrote:

On a freinds newly installed testing machine usb partitions that are plugged
in are added to /media as sda1 for example.

On my older machine, also running testing, this does not occur.  Which
package is doing this, or how can I enable this functionality?


Hi Chris,

I think you need to do the following:

1) Install the packages "udev", "dbus-1" and "hal".

2) Install the package "pmount" and add your user to the group
"plugdev". This user can now mount/unmount all pluggable devices via the
pmount/pumount command without the need for a corresponding entry in
/etc/fstab.

3) If you use KDE you can choose to have icons appear on the desktop
whenever such a device is plugged in; you set this in the KDE Control
Center > Desktop > Behavior > Device Icons. I am sure that Gnome has a
similar option.

4) If you do not want to depend on KDE or Gnome you can probably use the
packages "autofs" and "am-utils" for mounting the devices automatically.
I have never tried this myself, though, therefore I can't give you more
specific advice on this.

I hope this helps.

Regards,
   Florian


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Re: Photo collection management

[Gabriel S Farrell]

On Tue, Jan 17, 2006 at 11:22:52AM +0100, Piotr Kopszak wrote:
> 1. Possibility of cataloguing my old CD-ROMs without the need of copying
>them to disk. 
> 2. No need to rename any files. 
> 3. Possibility to read and write EXIF and IPTC data (and really use them in
>cataloguing pictures) 

I'm not sure if it will fulfill all of your needs, but I've generally
liked the interface of gthumb.  Not sure about a large collection, and
going straight off the CD-ROMs, though.


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Re: Building deb package frome installed files

[Rakotomandimby Mihamina]

On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 20:41 +0300, Виталий Ищенко wrote:
> I have cleared my cache of deb files and suddenly realized, that i ned
> this deb packages to share them on local network...
> Is there any utility to do this?

And what about its dependencies?
The best thing, in my opinion is to mirror a debian repository.
There is apt-mirror, I think, for that.

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Re: Debian Mailing Lists Survey

[Johannes Wiedersich]

Johannes Wiedersich wrote:

SkSowe wrote:


Dear participant,

We have completed a study which utilized data from 3 Debian mailing 
lists (Kde, Mentors, Users) located at Debian list archives 
http://lists.debian.org/.
Our data extraction and analysis shows that you participated in these 
lists during the period January 2001-September 2004. We would be 
grateful if you can spare us your valuable time and complete a survey 
we are running, located at: 
http://swserv1.csd.auth.gr/survey/index.php?sid=17


Sorry for maybe being a bit too sarcastic in my first reply. Maybe you 
might just send a clarification note about whom you would like to 
participate in your survey.


I'm not too big a fan of too many surveys... but that's my personal 
opinion.


Johannes


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Building deb package frome installed files

[Виталий Ищенко]

I have cleared my cache of deb files and suddenly realized, that i ned
this deb packages to share them on local network...

Is there any possibility to build deb packages from installed files,
if all needed information is stored under /var/lib/dpkg (control file
in available,version,scripts etc...)

Is there any utility to do this?

Re: Content Management Recommendations?

[Gabriel S Farrell]

On Tue, Jan 17, 2006 at 04:07:45PM +0800, Katipo wrote:
> Drupal answers to just about any requirement.

Second that, especially if you're into PHP.


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Re: Debian Mailing Lists Survey

[Johannes Wiedersich]

SkSowe wrote:

Dear participant,

We have completed a study which utilized data from 3 Debian mailing lists (Kde, 
Mentors, Users) located at Debian list archives http://lists.debian.org/.
Our data extraction and analysis shows that you participated in these lists 
during the period January 2001-September 2004. We would be grateful if you can 
spare us your valuable time and complete a survey we are running, located at: 
http://swserv1.csd.auth.gr/survey/index.php?sid=17


Wow, I'm impressed!
How did you find out that debian-user@lists.debian.org participated in 
the debian-user list?


The information will solely be used for academic research purpose and all particulars relating to participants (names, emails) are anonymous.  


Hope there will be some academic use, now that you invited everyone who 
glanced at the list for 5 minutes...


Johannes


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Re: How do I find a floppy drive in /dev (not in /dev/fd!)?

[Peter Stoddard]

On Tuesday 17 January 2006 01:28 am, Paul E Condon wrote:

Many thanks Paul.  "Tips for finding the appropriate places in SYSFS" is all 
the way at the bottom of http://www.reactivated.net/writing_udev_rules.html.

> On Mon, Jan 16, 2006 at 09:56:19PM -0800, Peter Stoddard wrote:
> > I have purchased a Mitsumi USB (external) floppy drive, and, having
> > attached it to my computer, I am trying to find where it is located in
> > /dev.  I would like to use the udev system, and the command udevinfo, but
> > it seems I have to specify the location of the floppy drive in /dev
> > first, and I don't know how to do that.
>
> ...
>
> > Can't find it.  So I can't use commands like
> >
> > superformat /dev/???
> > udevinfo /dev/???
> >
> > And I can't write a rule for udev to map the device to a convenient
> > place.  It seems like I have to find it first!  How can I do that?  Do I
> > really have to just look around until I find it, or is there some
> > systematic way to find it?
> >
> > Pete
>
> Look at
> http://www.reactivated.net/writing_udev_rules.html
>
> I found if very helpful.
>
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Debian Mailing Lists Survey

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Re: Power down

[Andrei Popescu]

On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 08:49:55 +
"Elmer E. Dow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Tuesday 17 January 2006 12:58 pm, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> > On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 17:17:59 +
> >
> > "Elmer E. Dow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Andrei Popescu wrote:
> > > >On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 14:02:58 +
> > > >
> > > >"Elmer E. Dow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >>Vincent Smeets wrote:
> > > >>>Hallo,
> > > >>>
> > > >>>I have an old (1999) computer too. dmesg showed that the kernel does
> > > >>>find my ACPI but doesn't use it because my bios is too old. It says
> > > >>>something like "... bios too old (1999 < 2001)". I now use the kernel
> > > >>>parameter "acpi=force" and now the kernel is using my ACPI. Poweroff
> > > >>>does now realy switch the power off!
> > > >>
> > > >>I've read that acpi=force works with 2.4 kernels but not 2.6 like mine.
> > > >>What kernel are you using?
> > > >
> > > >If you look at your dmesg it suggests just that, enabling it. It can't
> > > > hurt to try
> > > >
> > > >>Also, power management is enabled in the bios. Is that correct or is it
> > > >>fighting apm?
> > > >>
> > > >>Elmer
> > > >>
> > > >>
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> > > >
> > > >Andrei
> > >
> > > acpi=force works! I first tried removing apmd, deleting apm in
> > > /etc/modules and adding acpi there. I also installed acpid and so on,
> > > but the machine complained of fatal errors, etc. So I uninstalled acpid,
> > > deleted acpi in /etc/modules and left just acpi=force in menu.lst -- and
> > > it worked.
> > >
> > > So now I'm wondering how this works without the acpi module or having
> > > acpi compiled into the kernel. Does forcing acpi just makes it use the
> > > power management in the bios?
> > >
> > > Thanks, gentlemen, for your kind assistance.
> > >
> > > Elmer
> >
> > lsmod should tell you what modules you have loaded. I bet 'acpi' is there.
> > You should also install acpid and acpitool to have some control/monitoring
> > (was that a laptop?). But that's just fine-tuning ;)
> >
> >
> > Andrei
> > --
> 
> No acpi in the list from lsmod.
> 
> The computer in question is an old Dell 333 desktop. Acpi works ok on my IBM 
> R40 laptop. Lsmod on the latter doesn't list acpi, but does list ac and 
> battery which are related tools. Acpid works on the laptop, but just results 
> in logging fatal errors on the desktop.
> 
> Elmer
Even now with the 'acpi=force' option? It's normal to have errors because acpi 
was turned off in your previous attempt, but what the heck...important is you 
have the shutdown issue solved ;)

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Re: Power down

[Elmer E. Dow]

On Tuesday 17 January 2006 12:58 pm, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 17:17:59 +
>
> "Elmer E. Dow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Andrei Popescu wrote:
> > >On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 14:02:58 +
> > >
> > >"Elmer E. Dow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >>Vincent Smeets wrote:
> > >>>Hallo,
> > >>>
> > >>>I have an old (1999) computer too. dmesg showed that the kernel does
> > >>>find my ACPI but doesn't use it because my bios is too old. It says
> > >>>something like "... bios too old (1999 < 2001)". I now use the kernel
> > >>>parameter "acpi=force" and now the kernel is using my ACPI. Poweroff
> > >>>does now realy switch the power off!
> > >>
> > >>I've read that acpi=force works with 2.4 kernels but not 2.6 like mine.
> > >>What kernel are you using?
> > >
> > >If you look at your dmesg it suggests just that, enabling it. It can't
> > > hurt to try
> > >
> > >>Also, power management is enabled in the bios. Is that correct or is it
> > >>fighting apm?
> > >>
> > >>Elmer
> > >>
> > >>
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> > >
> > >Andrei
> >
> > acpi=force works! I first tried removing apmd, deleting apm in
> > /etc/modules and adding acpi there. I also installed acpid and so on,
> > but the machine complained of fatal errors, etc. So I uninstalled acpid,
> > deleted acpi in /etc/modules and left just acpi=force in menu.lst -- and
> > it worked.
> >
> > So now I'm wondering how this works without the acpi module or having
> > acpi compiled into the kernel. Does forcing acpi just makes it use the
> > power management in the bios?
> >
> > Thanks, gentlemen, for your kind assistance.
> >
> > Elmer
>
> lsmod should tell you what modules you have loaded. I bet 'acpi' is there.
> You should also install acpid and acpitool to have some control/monitoring
> (was that a laptop?). But that's just fine-tuning ;)
>
>
> Andrei
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No acpi in the list from lsmod.

The computer in question is an old Dell 333 desktop. Acpi works ok on my IBM 
R40 laptop. Lsmod on the latter doesn't list acpi, but does list ac and 
battery which are related tools. Acpid works on the laptop, but just results 
in logging fatal errors on the desktop.

Elmer


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Re: How to change gtk font size

[Csanyi Pal]

On Tue, Jan 17, 2006 at 07:18:34AM -0800, Alejandro Salas wrote:
> Does anyone knows how to?.
> I have read a bit about gtkrc but haven't find
> anything useful yet. Any help is appreciated.

Try gtk-theme-switch !

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Re: ktuberling

[Elmer E. Dow]

On Tuesday 17 January 2006 03:13 am, Kent West wrote:
> Kent West wrote:
> > Elmer E. Dow wrote:
> >> Greetings:
> >>
> >> My four-year-old ktuberling user is getting the following message
> >> when trying to load the program: "Fatal error: Unable to load the
> >> picture, aborting."
> >>
> >> The program works fine for the other three users on the machine, but
> >> won't even load for her. Since this is the case -- and everyone else
> >> can load the graphics, I assume that she's deleted some "picture"
> >> that resides in her home directory. (Remember: She's four years old
> >> and has a very limited reading vocabulary and thus might have deleted
> >> something necessary by accident.) I don't however find anything that
> >> seems ktuberling-related on the other users' directories.
> >>
> >> How do I fix this or go about finding the problem?
> >>
> >> Elmer
> >
> > I'd look in her home directory for a ".ktuberling" directory, or
> > something similar, and delete/move/rename it.
>
> Looks like it might be ~/.kde/share/apps/ktuberling
>
> --
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Renamed ~.kde/share/config/ktuberlingrc and it works just fine now. 

I thank you and my four-year-old user thanks you.

Elmer


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How to change gtk font size

[Alejandro Salas]

Does anyone knows how to?.
I have read a bit about gtkrc but haven't find
anything useful yet. Any help is appreciated.

Thanx everyone.
Alejandro

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Re: strange outbound connection

[johannes]

Sarunas Burdulis wrote:

The firewall (firestrarter gui to be precise), just shows a line in
active connections (ie. NOT in blocked connections) with an 'unknown
service' on port 1056 to that external host. I'm just wondering how
firestarter knows about this connection.

I don't know how to proceed. Maybe it's just a bug in firestarter to be
ignored?


What about `lsof -i`?


nothing:
llserv:~# lsof -i @217.91.13.234
llserv:~# lsof -i @213.20.165.177

(I now have two of them, according to firestarter listening on different 
ports: 1054 and 33414)



Sarunas Burdulis


Johannes


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Re: strange outbound connection

[Sarunas Burdulis]

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johannes wrote:
> Tim Hardy wrote:
> 
>> johannes wrote:
>>
>>> Magnus Pedersen wrote:
>>>
 johannes wrote:

> The gui of my firewall reports a strange outbound connection on
> port 1054 to a strange IP.
>
> How could I determine which process matches this connection?
> How could I determine if this is something worrying?
>
 netstat -plant | grep 1054

>>> ...shows nothing.
>>>
>>> I guess it's a problem of firestarter (firewall gui)???
>>>
>>
>> What exactly is the firewall saying? What IP is the connection being
>> made to? I don't know firestarter so I can't really comment on that
>>
>> Are you running netstat while the firewall is registering activity or
>> afterwards? Or is the firewall blocking this connection. netstat will
>> only show currently active connections afaik
> 
> 
> The firewall is on and displaying this funny open connection, while it
> is not shown in netstat.
> 
>> Try running ethereal too to see if you can capture any packets sent on
>> this connection - it might give you a better clue
> 
> 
> I just ran ethereal for about an hour with no trace on that particular
> host.
> 
> The firewall (firestrarter gui to be precise), just shows a line in
> active connections (ie. NOT in blocked connections) with an 'unknown
> service' on port 1056 to that external host. I'm just wondering how
> firestarter knows about this connection.
> 
> I don't know how to proceed. Maybe it's just a bug in firestarter to be
> ignored?
> 
> Johannes
What about `lsof -i`?

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Re: group callander program

[Sarunas Burdulis]

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Ron Johnson wrote:
> On Mon, 2006-01-16 at 11:13 -0600, Rodney Richison wrote:
> 
>>I find many programs as I'm googling for a simple callendar program.
>>Would like advice on what you guys find usefull.
>>
>>I seen thunderbird callendar.
>>kdepim
>>
>>These are easy to install. Work with a group. What would you use to
>>connect in a multi-platform 10-user office. Also offering the ability to
>>sync from offsite locations.
> 
> 
> Evolution is supposed to integrate well with WebDAV-enabled Apache,
> but looks like it might be broken.
I wasn't able to use Evol. in SSL/TLS mode, which we need to
authenticate with Apache. Mozilla Calendar (Debian Sid, Ubuntu Breezy)
and Sunbird (Mac OS 10.4) work fine though.

Sarunas Burdulis
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Re: apt and etch: keys

[Christoph Anton Mitterer]

Nic Ferrier wrote:

>When I do an:
>
>  apt-get update 
>
>I'm getting this:
>
>  W: GPG error: http://ftp.ticklers.org etch Release: The following signatures 
> couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 
> 010908312D230C5F
>  W: GPG error: http://ftp.ticklers.org testing Release: The following 
> signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: 
> NO_PUBKEY 010908312D230C5F
>  
>
Look in the archive, google,.. etc..


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Re: dpkg / apt problem

[nshakeshaft]

> Are you running debian sarge/stable?

Ah sorry, no it's the current 'testing' distribution.

Thanks,
Nic


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apt and etch: keys

[Nic Ferrier]

When I do an:

  apt-get update 

I'm getting this:

  W: GPG error: http://ftp.ticklers.org etch Release: The following signatures 
couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 
010908312D230C5F
  W: GPG error: http://ftp.ticklers.org testing Release: The following 
signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: 
NO_PUBKEY 010908312D230C5F


When you look at the keyfiles there are 2 keys in them.

Can anyone help with this? I think I've had this problem  before and
it was related to the fact that there were 2 keys in the keyfile;
someone whittled it down to one again and everything worked.


btw my machines are sarge + testing (they're apt-get is 0.6.42.1)


Nic


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Thunderbird email access prob.

[Hugo Vanwoerkom]

Hi,

For some time now Thunderbird version 1.5 (20051025) does strange things 
retrieving email from my ISP POP server.


Yesterday it worked fine.

Today it does nothing when first starting Thunderbird and selecting the 
appropriate inbox and then "Get Mail".


After a little while doing the same will show "connecting" en then nothing.

After still longer the message will show up "Connection to server 
mail.att.net.mx timed out".


Then sometime later, like right now, it will work and email is retrieved.

Starting/stopping the firewall has no effect.

Mozilla mail-news 1.7.12 shows the same symptoms.

But sites like mail2web and Yahoo! mail can access the POP server always 
and without problems.


Anybody have a clue what this is?

Thanks!

H


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Re: who is r/w-ing my hdd?

[Andrei Popescu]

On 17 Jan 2006 01:15:05 -0800
"David A." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I realy want a quiet PC in my bedroom. My experience is that journaling
> file systems generate mor disc activity than ext2 for example.
> 
> I run ext2 and noflushd and it works rather OK. Logfiles spin it up say
> once every hour. I believe demand for "quiet pc's" is raising, and
> minimising disc activity is one factor.
> 
> >From http://noflushd.sourceforge.net/ "Journaling filesystems like
> ext3, reiserfs or xfs bypass the kernel's delayed write mechanisms.
> This amounts to lousy spindown times when working off such a partition.
> There's no workaround for this."
> 
> regards, David.
From 'aptitude show cpudyn'
[quote]
... and can put the computer disks in standby mode if a given period
 has passed without any I/O operation. It works well even with journaled file
 systems such as Ext3, XFS, or ReiserFS. Even supports the new interface for
 kernels 2.6.x
[end quote]

It works well for me, though i had to turn of sysklod...

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Re: ndiswrapper

[Andrei Popescu]

On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 03:09:54 +
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> just installed deb 3.1 sarge, trying to insstall the ndiswrapper i find that 
> /lib/modules/2.6.8-386 does not have the build link to the linux headers thus 
> cannot install using the 1.8 source from sf.net.
> as far as i can see this is a bug, anybody knows a fix? cannot go wireless 
> otherwise.
> thanks for any help.
> 
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I'm guessing that you need to install some additional packages like 
'kernel-headers-2.6-386'

HTH
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Re: undo the command "apt-get clean"

[Michelle Konzack]

Am 2005-12-30 02:44:46, schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> Hello,
> 
> Unfortunatly I have done an "apt-get clean", which removes all
> downloaded files from /var/cache/apt/archives.
> How can I download these files again?

cd /var/lib/dpkg/info/
apt-get -d --reinstall install `ls *.list |sed s/\.list$//`

-d  download only
--reinstall trys to reinstall all given packages


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Re: who is r/w-ing my hdd?

[Micha Feigin]

On 17 Jan 2006 01:15:05 -0800
"David A." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I realy want a quiet PC in my bedroom. My experience is that journaling
> file systems generate mor disc activity than ext2 for example.
> 
> I run ext2 and noflushd and it works rather OK. Logfiles spin it up say
> once every hour. I believe demand for "quiet pc's" is raising, and
> minimising disc activity is one factor.
> 
> >From http://noflushd.sourceforge.net/ "Journaling filesystems like
> ext3, reiserfs or xfs bypass the kernel's delayed write mechanisms.
> This amounts to lousy spindown times when working off such a partition.
> There's no workaround for this."
> 

There is a workaround, laptop mode, you can delay writes by as much as you want
(10 minutes is the value usually used, but you can used more)

> regards, David.
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Re: who is r/w-ing my hdd?

[Micha Feigin]

On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 23:26:00 -0600
Mike McCarty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Ron Johnson wrote:
> > On Fri, 2006-01-13 at 12:00 -0600, Mike McCarty wrote:
> > 
> >>Matthias Pfeifer wrote:
> >>
> >>>Jochen Schulz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>at.bofh.it:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> Matthias:
> 
> 
> >I am searching the source of some every 2/3 seconds
> >happening harddisk read/write operation.
> 
> If you are using a journalling file system like ext3, this is normal and
> shouldn't stress your hard disk.
> 
> J.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>How is that? And how does that correspond to my
> >>>observation that it must be the x-window-system
> >>>that is taking a role in this situation? Can
> >>>you explain, please?
> >>
> >>I find the answer confusing as well. No matter what FS
> >>one is using, it shouldn't be writing the disc unless
> >>someone requests it. The write may be delayed, but it
> >>shouldn't be created out of thin air. Same thing for
> >>reads. Somewhere there is a process doing disc I/O.
> > 
> > 
> > You're thinking like this is a single-tasking OS.  Even on a 
> > relatively quiet system, when you have a journaling FS, the kernel
> > will be doing more background disk activity than you'd expect.
> > 
> 

The kernel doesn't initiate disk writes out of thin air. There are several 
reasons to do it:

1. The buffer gets flushed about every 40 seconds or so IIRC, but that depends
on things actually being present in the buffer.

2. A journaling file system writes a journal transaction record every 20 or so
   seconds, depending on the file system. I can dig up some old mails concerning
   laptop mode if you want which talk about these two.

3. Access to swap or disk reads is a more logical reason since disk reads are
   immidiate but disk writes go through the buffer to bunch several writes
   together, mostly for speed reasons.

4. The kernel logger is writing data to the log (klogd, syslogd). There may be
   a lot of log activity going on. You can try either monitoring /var/log/
   possibly messages or syslog are getting written to if its the kernel, or
   XFree86.0.log or Xorg.0.log if its X or possibly .Xsession-errors if its user
   side problems with X.

What used to be possible is to use laptop mode to see processes accessing the
disk. You can try from a console (I don't think you will see the messages from
an xterm, only the console)

echo 1 > /proc/sys/vm/laptop_mode
echo 1 > /proc/sys/vm/block_dump

It should display all disk accesses (IIRC you do need also the laptop mode line)


> This response almost makes me angry. I said specifically
> A PROCESS. I didn't say what kind of process. The file system
> should not generate writes out of nothing. Somewhere there
> is A PROCESS (an instance of a running program, maybe a daemon,
> maybe the kernel, who cares, some process) which is generating reads
> or writes.
> 
> I WROTE a multitasking embedded O/S in 1984, and have participated
> in writing another, and in supporting two others. So don't lecture
> me about thinking single-threaded.
> 
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Re: How to build RHEL software to run on Debian?

[Michelle Konzack]

Am 2005-12-28 17:31:16, schrieb Matt England:
> I'm a software developer, and I would like one set of software binaries 
> (applications, libraries) to be able to run across many Linux platforms, 
> including FedoraCore, Redhat Enterprise Linux, and Debian (much the same 
> way XAMPP -- http://www.apachefriends.org/en/xampp.html -- claims that its 
> one Linux binary distribution runs on all SuSE, Redhat, Mandrake, and 
> Debian).
> 
> What sort of things must I do as a developer to do this?

You must link ALL static.

Like ds9 from the NASA.  -  It is a 8 MByte killer.

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Re: Sarge-built binaries running on Woody systems?

[Michelle Konzack]

Am 2005-12-31 20:01:37, schrieb Matt England:
> I'm still looking for any guidance on this topic.
> 
> In summary:
> 
> Can one run Sarge-built binaries on Woody?
> Can one run Woody-built binaries on Sarge?

In both cases you will run into trouble because the "libc6"

> In the same context, how well would Debian 2.x-built binaries work on 3.x 
> and vice versa?

Which 2.*?  wie have Hamm 2.0, Slink 2.1 and Potato 2.2.

No one will work on 3.0 Woody or 3.1 Sarge.

It is a libc6 issue.

> For what it's worth, I soon have to establish some Debian 
> binary-to-test-system rev-control policies before I got into first round 
> test on my group's software.

Build it for each release.

> -Matt

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Re: Compatible VoIP software on Debian

[Michelle Konzack]

Am 2005-12-31 01:50:22, schrieb Alessandro Ciorcalo:

> If you simply want to have a voice conversation with another person
> over the internet and if you have no preferences on the underlying
> protocol, then I say simply to use Skype which is easly available on
> www.skype.com for both windows and linux (.deb package available too),
> and lets you talk for free with other skype users.

Closed Source and does not support H323, SIP and others which are open.

And on my Sarge system it crashs all the time.

> Alessandro

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Re: Power down

[Andrei Popescu]

On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 17:17:59 +
"Elmer E. Dow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Andrei Popescu wrote:
> 
> >On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 14:02:58 +
> >"Elmer E. Dow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >  
> >
> >>Vincent Smeets wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>Hallo,
> >>>
> >>>I have an old (1999) computer too. dmesg showed that the kernel does 
> >>>find my ACPI but doesn't use it because my bios is too old. It says 
> >>>something like "... bios too old (1999 < 2001)". I now use the kernel 
> >>>parameter "acpi=force" and now the kernel is using my ACPI. Poweroff 
> >>>does now realy switch the power off!
> >>>
> >>>  
> >>>
> >>I've read that acpi=force works with 2.4 kernels but not 2.6 like mine. 
> >>What kernel are you using?
> >>
> >>
> >
> >If you look at your dmesg it suggests just that, enabling it. It can't hurt 
> >to try
> >
> >  
> >
> >>Also, power management is enabled in the bios. Is that correct or is it 
> >>fighting apm?
> >>
> >>Elmer
> >>
> >>
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> >Andrei
> >  
> >
> acpi=force works! I first tried removing apmd, deleting apm in 
> /etc/modules and adding acpi there. I also installed acpid and so on, 
> but the machine complained of fatal errors, etc. So I uninstalled acpid, 
> deleted acpi in /etc/modules and left just acpi=force in menu.lst -- and 
> it worked.
> 
> So now I'm wondering how this works without the acpi module or having 
> acpi compiled into the kernel. Does forcing acpi just makes it use the 
> power management in the bios?
> 
> Thanks, gentlemen, for your kind assistance.
> 
> Elmer

lsmod should tell you what modules you have loaded. I bet 'acpi' is there. You 
should also install acpid and acpitool to have some control/monitoring (was 
that a laptop?). But that's just fine-tuning ;)


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Re: dpkg / apt problem

[Johannes Wiedersich]

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Hi,

An apt-get upgrade has thrown up a problem I don't understand (although this
might be related to the fact that I'm a relative newbie to linux, so apologies
in advance).


Are you running debian sarge/stable?

Johannes


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Photo collection management

[Piotr Kopszak]

On Tue, Jan 17, 2006 at 10:14:31PM +1100, Star King of the Grape Trees wrote:
> I would probably do a custom solution, due to the number of CDROMS you 
> have, and generate thumbnails for all your CD's, along with a list of 
> images for each CD.  Burn this info to another CD, together with the 
> thumbnails - this forms the "index" CD.
> 
> afaik, EXIF data is stored with the JPEG.
> 
> Alternatively, you could experiment with various image management 
> programs, such as "Gallery" (A php-based apache "gallery" program), 
> however you will have to figure out how to manually upload the images 
> via ssh yourself, rather than using the website interface as you will 
> quickly find that it is just too slow if you have more than a few 
> hundred images (My images are about 1M each).

Exactly, that will be a problem as the sizes of pictures vary between
rougly 30 kb and 60 mb. I tried ImgSeek and it seems almost what I'm
looking for, but it's documentation is very modest. 

Piotr

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