Re: Shutdown my Laptop? Why should I?
"Jack Nguy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Another thing to keep in mind is the spinning of the harddrive. A > harddrive doesn't have inifite lifespan and laptop harddrives are not > designed for 24/7 spinning. > > Jack > > > On 7/12/06, David R. Litwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I have a year old Toshiba Intel Mobil P4 laptop using Sid. I recently >> downloaded two large files via BitTorrent. As I wanted to have them as >> quickly as I could, I decided to leave my laptop on until they were fully >> downloaded, rebooting only for upgrades. I noticed no real >> difference in performance (maybe Azureus was hogging >> a bit more memory after a few days). >> >> The question is this: Why should I ever turn off my laptop on a normal >> occasion (normal being every-day, standard, stationary usage)? If I don't >> want it on, I can suspend it in some way: Waking-up is faster than The situation is not simple. All electronic devices have a limited lifetime; some manufacturers publish "mean time between failure" (MTBF) figures, which are derived statistically. But disk drives have a particular limitation, namely, the number of starts. The last time I saw a specification sheet, the rated number of starts for a laptop drive was on the order of ten thousand to a hundred thousand, but nowhere near a million. So a laptop in which the drive constantly is being powered down to save the battery is likely to fail sooner than a drive which is kept spinning continuously. Continuous operation is not mechanically harmful to a drive, unless you consider bearing wear. Ball bearings eventually fail, but in a drive bearing failure typically is due to contamination, rather than to loading. And the newer drives have "fluid film" (i.e., sleeve) bearings rather than ball bearings; these theoretically have infinite life, if there is no contamination of the lubricant. Whenever a drive stops turning, the lubricant film is lost, with the result that metal-to-metal rubbing contact occurs during stopping and during subsequent startup; this contact is a source of contamination. The head of the drive normally flies (in the aerodynamic sense) above the spinning media; there is no contact with the media while the drive spinning. But as the drive stops turning, the supporting air film is lost, and the head contacts and rubs against the media; this rubbing contact is a source of contamination. And upon startup, the head rubs against the media until the disk is spinning fast enough for the head to fly; this also is a source of contamination. Because of this rubbing, drives have a "parking zone" or "landing zone" to which the head is moved upon power-down. Early drives had a "park" command; modern drives park automatically. The landing zone is outside the region used for data storage. Finally, whenever a drive is dropped or bumped, the head typically impacts against the media and dislodges microscopic particles; this also is a source of contamination. The head flies at a height above the media which is about equal to the diameter of a particle of cigarette smoke. In a photomicrograph, a particle of cigarette smoke looks like a jagged boulder; if it wedges between the head and the disk, it can gouge media from the surface of the disk. So, within the enclosure of a drive, there are several sources of contamination. The contamination can cause media damage and bearing failure. Contamination is less likely to be generated in a drive which is kept running continuously. While continuous operation is better for the drive, it can shorten the life of electronic components in the laptop, including the electronics of the drive; this is because the interior of a laptop typically is significantly hotter than the interior of a desktop machine. The elevated temperature is a consequence of the fact that power is required to circulate cooling air, and the circulation of air is noisy. In a laptop, power must be conserved, and noise must be minimized; so a laptop cooling of necessity is a compromise. But the life of components such as transistors (and thus, integrated circuits) and electrolytic capacitors is shortened, sometimes dramatically, by elevated temperature. So it generally is best to use a laptop in the service for which a laptop was designed. But if you keep the machine in a cool room, it may run for years in continuous service. RLH -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
chroot doesn't work, among other things.
Hello vaunted list:I'm having some troubles with chroot. Giving chroot /mnt/hda3 after mount /dev/hda3 /mnt/hda3 tells me Floating Point Exception. apt-get is now busted after I tried to install ntp (I did manage to get ntpdate) and forcing in various ways (installing and uninstalling) is doing exactly nothing. Generally, my computer is falling apart, the irc gives no help (use sarge, not sid) and I'm getting mad so pardon me, please, if I don't seem my usual, cordial and eccentric self.Any help will be appreciated, so long as it is useful. Thanks very much indeed. Cheers.-- —A watched bread-crumb never boils.—My hover-craft is full of eels. —[...]and that's the he and the she of it.
Re: specify the application to open files in Midnight Command?
On 8/4/06, ra1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Fri, Aug 04, 2006 at 02:14:21PM +0800, Yuwen Dai wrote:>>I want xpdf instead of gpdf open pdf files in mc. How to do this?>Best regards,You can specify that in /etc/mc/mc.ext Thanks. I also find another way: add my own .mailcap if mc uses run-mailcap in the extensions file.Best regards,Dai Yuwen --ra1--To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: specify the application to open files in Midnight Command?
On Fri, Aug 04, 2006 at 02:14:21PM +0800, Yuwen Dai wrote: > >I want xpdf instead of gpdf open pdf files in mc. How to do this? >Best regards, You can specify that in /etc/mc/mc.ext -- ra1 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
specify the application to open files in Midnight Command?
Dear all,I want xpdf instead of gpdf open pdf files in mc. How to do this?Best regards,Dai Yuwen
Re: installing "unstable"?
"Ken Wahl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Wed, Aug 02, 2006 at 11:38:01AM -0700, K. Richard Pixley wrote: I don't see an "unstable" installer on the web site. Is the standard way to build an "unstable" system to build a "testing" system, point /etc/apt/sources.list to an unstable repository and update+upgrade? Or is there something more common that I'm overlooking? See http://wooledge.org/~greg/sidfaq.html#3 The way I used most recently was to use a stable netinstall CD and boot it in expert mode. You'll be prompted which branch you want to configure apt for (stable, testing or sid). Choose sid. Then I skipped taskselect and went straight into aptitude and started choosing packages. This took a little longer but I had an unstable system on first boot with little cruft. The alternative is to install a testing system, change your apt sources and dist-upgrade to unstable. This latter way may be safer for new debian users and is I believe the recommended method. Correct. Using any net-inst CD from sarge or beyond should allow you to directly install unstable. This is almost never tested, so there is some chance it could fail. Intsalling testing and upgrading is recomended in all cases, unless bandwidth is a major issue. (For example slow dialup connection). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apt-get md5sum error on etch system
On Friday 04 August 2006 11:03, Jacob S wrote: > On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 15:58:06 -0400 > > José Alburquerque <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > José Alburquerque wrote: > > > My problem is that when I run 'apt-get update' I get these errors: > > > > > > Failed to fetch > > > http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/etch/main/binary-i386/Packages.g > > >z MD5Sum mismatch > > > Failed to fetch > > > http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/etch/non-free/binary-i386/Packag > > >es.gz MD5Sum mismatch > > > Failed to fetch > > > http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/etch/main/source/Sources.gz > > > MD5Sum mismatch > > > Reading package lists... Done > > > W: Couldn't stat source package list http://http.us.debian.org > > > etch/main Packages > > > (/var/lib/apt/lists/http.us.debian.org_debian_dists_etch_main_binary-i3 > > >86_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) > > > W: Couldn't stat source package list http://http.us.debian.org > > > etch/main Packages > > > (/var/lib/apt/lists/http.us.debian.org_debian_dists_etch_main_binary-i3 > > >86_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) > > > W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems > > > E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or > > > old ones used instead. > > [...] > > I have been experiencing this same error, sometimes mixed with a gzip > error complaining that stdin is not in gzip format for about a week > now. I just changed my sources.list to use ftp instead of http and > the problem went away. > > However, to make the problem more curious, when this problem started > happening I was using mirrors.kernel.org so I switched to > ftp.us.debian.org thinking maybe it was a mirror problem. But that did > not fix it either. Only switching to ftp seemed to fix it. > > This would make me suspect that it's a bug with apt-get, except that I > am using http for debian-multimedia.org and wine.sourceforge.net > without problems. > > Thoughts, anyone? > [...] I had a similar-sounding problem a couple of months back - I was getting both the "Couldn't stat..." and the gzip error messages. I didn't change my sources.list because the mirrors seemed to be working for everyone else; and I could still upgrade by manually downloading the Packages files from the mirror sites. There seemed to be something wrong with apt-get's interaction with the Packages files. I tried deleting everything in /var/lib/apt/, and even purging and reinstalling apt (which is scary on a running system). Nothing worked until the next upgrade of apt, when the problem went away. If you search this list for "apt-get update" you will find a smattering of similar posts, none with a definitive solution. Makes me think there is a sneaky little apt bug out there. John
Re: auto-download deb files that are already installed
On 8/3/06, Wackojacko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The first is a hack I use. Copy the package files from /var/lib/apt/list and the contents files from /var/cache/apt/ from the desktop to the laptop and place the deb files in the /var/cache/apt/archives directory on the laptop and apt-get should find them as normal. Also put the entries from the sources.list on the desktop onto the laptop and do 'apt-get update' this will fail because you dont have an internet connection and just use the list you copied over. Cool, this worked. There were about 30 debs I didn't have on my desktop, and I made a list and ran aptitude download, as Florian suggested, and got everything installed on the laptop. Thanks guys. -Chuckk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cron and GMT time?
Jim Jarocki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > anything obvious that i'm doing wrong or that i should check? or perhaps grep UTC /etc/default/rcS -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)http://www.spots.ab.ca/~keeling Linux Counter #80292 - -http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.html Spammers! http://www.spots.ab.ca/~keeling/emails.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Shutdown my Laptop? Why should I?
Another thing to keep in mind is the spinning of the harddrive. A harddrive doesn't have inifite lifespan and laptop harddrives are not designed for 24/7 spinning. Jack On 7/12/06, David R. Litwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I have a year old Toshiba Intel Mobil P4 laptop using Sid. I recently downloaded two large files via BitTorrent. As I wanted to have them as quickly as I could, I decided to leave my laptop on until they were fully downloaded, rebooting only for upgrades. I noticed no real difference in performance (maybe Azureus was hogging a bit more memory after a few days). The question is this: Why should I ever turn off my laptop on a normal occasion (normal being every-day, standard, stationary usage)? If I don't want it on, I can suspend it in some way: Waking-up is faster than booting-up. I'm keen to hear your opinions, O members. Cheers. -- —A watched bread-crumb never boils. —My hover-craft is full of eels. —[...]and that's the he and the she of it.
Re: correction, location of grub/menu.lst
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Suppose that a machine has Windows installed on hda and Debian on hdb. The menu.lst on a grub installation diskette is configured appropriately and copied to /dev/hdb/boot/grub/menu.lst, not to /dev/hda/boot/grub/menu.lst. "grub-install /dev/hda" is executed. Will grub then know to use the menu.lst on hdb? If so, how does grub know this? Otherwise, how can grub be configured to know this? Thanks, ... Peter E. shark at gulfnet dot sd64 dot bc.ca Desktops.OpenDoc http://carnot.pathology.ubc.ca/ Suppose ur windows in hda & debian in hdb, BIOS setup in hda. Debian has installed perfactly, then u wanna use grub to select which system u want when bootup. Frist, set BIOS boot hdb other then hda. Frist, boot into debian, login as root(or use sudo). grub root (hd1,X) # X is to decide which partition in hdb will do as *root*, normally this partition is mounted as / . e.g. (hd1,0) 4 hdb1, (hd1,1) 4 hdb2 etc. setup hd1 reboot Then when ur boot up, grub will be the system loader. But u can't boot up windows. So u need 2 edit /boot/grub/menu.lst. Adding this. titlewindows root(hd0) chainloader +1 savedefault boot Wish u lucky. Shell.E.Xu -- 与其相濡以沫，不如相忘于江湖 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: location of grub/menu.lst
2006/8/4, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Suppose that a machine has Windows installed on hda and Debian on hdb. The menu.lst on a grub installation diskette is configured appropriately and copied to /dev/hda/boot/grub/menu.lst. this is not a real path, how did you do it. "grub-install /dev/hda" is executed. Will grub then know to use the menu.lst on hdb? If so, how does grub know this? Otherwise, how can grub be configured to know this? it depends on the grub-install script, it should firstly determine where is the root partition of grub, in which the menu.list and stage1, stage1.5, stage2 image of grub store, and it is normaly the boot partition. Then install it on MBR of /dev/hda. Usually the grub-install script will find the grub files in /boot/grub/ dir, but I am not sure about a grub installation diskette. -- Wang Xu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apt-get md5sum error on etch system
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 15:58:06 -0400 José Alburquerque <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > José Alburquerque wrote: > > > My problem is that when I run 'apt-get update' I get these errors: > > > > Failed to fetch > > http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/etch/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz > > MD5Sum mismatch > > Failed to fetch > > http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/etch/non-free/binary-i386/Packages.gz > > > > MD5Sum mismatch > > Failed to fetch > > http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/etch/main/source/Sources.gz > > MD5Sum mismatch > > Reading package lists... Done > > W: Couldn't stat source package list http://http.us.debian.org > > etch/main Packages > > (/var/lib/apt/lists/http.us.debian.org_debian_dists_etch_main_binary-i386_Packages) > > > > - stat (2 No such file or directory) > > W: Couldn't stat source package list http://http.us.debian.org > > etch/main Packages > > (/var/lib/apt/lists/http.us.debian.org_debian_dists_etch_main_binary-i386_Packages) > > > > - stat (2 No such file or directory) > > W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems > > E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or > > old ones used instead. > > I'm replying to myself because I believe I fixed this problem on my > own: I did a little research and found that the repository > information that apt-get uses is found in /etc/apt/apt.sources. I > changed my debian mirror from http://http.us.debian.org to > ftp://ftp.debian.org and this fixed my problem entirely. (I got the > list of mirrors from debian.org). This leads me to believe that > there may be something wrong with http://http.us.debian.org. (By the > way, I experienced the same errors with http://ftp.us.debian.org). > Should I report this somewhere? Thanks. I have been experiencing this same error, sometimes mixed with a gzip error complaining that stdin is not in gzip format for about a week now. I just changed my sources.list to use ftp instead of http and the problem went away. However, to make the problem more curious, when this problem started happening I was using mirrors.kernel.org so I switched to ftp.us.debian.org thinking maybe it was a mirror problem. But that did not fix it either. Only switching to ftp seemed to fix it. This would make me suspect that it's a bug with apt-get, except that I am using http for debian-multimedia.org and wine.sourceforge.net without problems. Thoughts, anyone? TIA, Jacob -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFE0pzXkpJ43hY3cTURAjHlAKDm8At1ZGl71bC3cJpPH2ZJzuEuTwCeKvaU C3CTSe4f5RChwtHpq+hsH5o= =529x -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Film scoring software
On 8/3/06, Niall Donegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chuckk Hubbard wrote: > Anyone know a MIDI/audio sequencer for Linux that can score video too? I can recommend lilypond for the scoring of the music. Rosegarden seems to be a midi sequencer with support for lilypond, however I haven't used it. Both programs are available in Apt. Well, I'm not thinking so much of printing a score as syncing music to video while composing. Making markers for certain frames, if possible. For some reason, though, I don't have Lilypond. I'll have to go get it, I will need it one day. -Chuckk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Corrupt JFS inode table?
On 08/03/2006 02:01 PM, Jeff Cleverley wrote: Greetings, We have a Dell 2850 running the 2.6.15-1 kernel and have created 2 JFS file systems from the non-boot internal drives. Both JFS file system disks come from the same raid group. The other day the system quit responding and we ended up having to power cycle the box. When it booted, everything looked OK, file systems marked clean, mount points correct, etc. Shortly after the reboot we received a call from an engineer that said some of their data had no permissions or size. Another user reported that a file he opened did not contain the contents of the file that should have been there. That was for one file system. The other JFS file system appears to have come through cleanly. We ended up having to restore the entire first file system. Below is an example of what happened to the files that changed. The first one is the old file that changed after the reboot and the second one is the one that was restored. -- 1 meg Debian-exim 0 Jul 19 13:47 cdsinit -rwxr-xr-x 1 meg Debian-exim 17 Jul 19 13:47 cdsinit As you can see, the ownership and time stamp stayed the same, but file permissions were wiped and the size was nulled out in the first one. We unmounted the file system and probably did about 6 fsck of the file system with various options and even rebooted the box again. Nothing changed. Not all data in the file system changed, just random directories and files. We really need to find out what happened, otherwise we don't feel we can trust this server or file system with critical data. Any help debugging or diagnosing the problem will be greatly appreciated. If there is another list that might be more appropriate for this problem, please let me know. Thanks, Jeff Most likely, the following does not have anything to do with your problem because your kernel is 2.6.15, and your filesystems are jfs; however, you might be experiencing a serious bug affecting XFS partitions. http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2006/07/msg02237.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
correction, location of grub/menu.lst
Suppose that a machine has Windows installed on hda and Debian on hdb. The menu.lst on a grub installation diskette is configured appropriately and copied to /dev/hdb/boot/grub/menu.lst, not to /dev/hda/boot/grub/menu.lst. "grub-install /dev/hda" is executed. Will grub then know to use the menu.lst on hdb? If so, how does grub know this? Otherwise, how can grub be configured to know this? Thanks, ... Peter E. shark at gulfnet dot sd64 dot bc.ca Desktops.OpenDoc http://carnot.pathology.ubc.ca/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: script languages
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 David Christensen wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: >> My big problem with Perl is "Special Variables". They are a >> big fat maintainability and debugging trap. > > They're powerful tools, providing easy access to things "under > the hood"; use with discretion. Like land mines are also powerful tools. One false step, and /boom/ goes your program. > Does Python have equivalents? Not to my knowledge. I can't imagine that an interpreter that enforces indentation would have Special Land Mines. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Is "common sense" really valid? For example, it is "common sense" to white-power racists that whites are superior to blacks, and that those with brown skins are mud people. However, that "common sense" is obviously wrong. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFE0n4KS9HxQb37XmcRAkkNAJ4p1hFvQktHt6CGUwfYpdZT6dwmUACg5Ydb kug7xHGTgPS4iT0/+FxoXeY= =VlfO -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
location of grub/menu.lst
Suppose that a machine has Windows installed on hda and Debian on hdb. The menu.lst on a grub installation diskette is configured appropriately and copied to /dev/hda/boot/grub/menu.lst. "grub-install /dev/hda" is executed. Will grub then know to use the menu.lst on hdb? If so, how does grub know this? Otherwise, how can grub be configured to know this? Thanks, ... Peter E. shark at gulfnet dot sd64 dot bc.ca Desktops.OpenDoc http://carnot.pathology.ubc.ca/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: script languages
Ron Johnson wrote: > My big problem with Perl is "Special Variables". They are a big fat > maintainability and debugging trap. They're powerful tools, providing easy access to things "under the hood"; use with discretion. Does Python have equivalents? David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Keeping dependencies when running alien
On Thursday 03 August 2006 13:53, Joey Hess wrote: > Joshua J. Kugler wrote: > > So, how do I instruct alien to convert these dependencies over? > > You can't. For starters, not one of the dependencies you listed from the > rpm is a package name; debs support only package name dependencies. For > another, there's no consistency of package names across distributions. > > The sole exception, as documented on alien's man page, is lsb packages. OK, that makes sense. I suppose one could extend alien to understand RPM's depends syntax, find which packages provides those dependencies, and require those packages, but that's beyond the scope of my little project today. Thanks for the insight. j -- Joshua Kugler Lead System Admin -- Senior Programmer http://www.eeinternet.com PGP Key: http://pgp.mit.edu/ ID 0xDB26D7CE PO Box 80086 -- Fairbanks, AK 99708 -- Ph: 907-456-5581 Fax: 907-456-3111 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: synthetic sound generator with api
Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Thu, Aug 03, 2006 at 08:40:01PM +0200, CJ van den Berg wrote: On Thu, Aug 03, 2006 at 10:36:35AM -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: No, I don't want to play back anything: I want to *generate* a beeping sound. The type depends upon the occasion. I missed the original message, but how about the beep package? [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ apt-cache show beep I saw beep, after I programmed the speaker myself. But the speaker is universal: there is only one. I want to be user dependent: I have a system with 2 xservers/videocards,soundcards,keybds,mice. So when a little monitoring box on user A's screen sounds, it should do so to that user's soundcard. There is already *sessiond* by Ludovic Pollet, that assigns (via fuse) /dev/dsp to /dev/dsp0 or /dev/dsp1 depending on $DISPLAY. So that is fine for apps that write directly to /dev/dsp. For the alsa behaved apps (like libao) you set alsa_card=1 or 0 and ao_example.c plays on either one soundcard or the other. Thanks guys! H -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: synthetic sound generator with api
CJ van den Berg wrote: On Thu, Aug 03, 2006 at 10:36:35AM -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: No, I don't want to play back anything: I want to *generate* a beeping sound. The type depends upon the occasion. So you actually want to synthesize the beep? Is that right? If you really do want just a beep you could synthesize the sine wave yourself pretty easily. The one and only source code example in the libao coincidentally does exactly that. http://www.xiph.org/ao/doc/ao_example.c Right now I use Nas, which has good support from Jon Trulson. But that is meant really as a network sound server and not made for playing back to a particular sound card. The libao alsa driver (alsa09), which I assume you would be using, allows you to specify which device (ie. sound card) you want to use. The oss driver will too. E.g. if it is 11:30 I want to produce 5 beeps for maritime chimes. If the dialup line goes down I want to produce 9 beeps. I would prefer to produce the beeps for a particular soundcard, for the user that is logged on to a monotor that uses that card. A few lines of tweaking to that example I linked above should do exactly what you want. Thanks! I'll look into that! H -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Keeping dependencies when running alien
Joshua J. Kugler wrote: > So, how do I instruct alien to convert these dependencies over? You can't. For starters, not one of the dependencies you listed from the rpm is a package name; debs support only package name dependencies. For another, there's no consistency of package names across distributions. The sole exception, as documented on alien's man page, is lsb packages. -- see shy jo signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Hotplug not loaded after basic installation
I just finished a basic net installation of Debian 3.1r2 from a downloaded net installation CDROM, but I don't think the hotplug module loaded. Here is the relevant part of dmesg: cpci_hotplug: CompactPCI Hot Plug Core version: 0.2 pci_hotplug: PCI Hot Plug PCI Core version: 0.5 pciehp: acpi_pciehprm:\_SB_.PCI0 evaluate _BBN fail=0x5 pciehp: acpi_pciehprm:get_device PCI ROOT HID fail=0x5 shpchp: acpi_shpchprm:\_SB_.PCI0 evaluate _BBN fail=0x5 shpchp: acpi_shpchprm:get_device PCI ROOT HID fail=0x5 8139cp: 10/100 PCI Ethernet driver v1.2 (Mar 22, 2004) usbcore: registered new driver usbfs usbcore: registered new driver hub ohci_hcd: 2004 Feb 02 USB 1.1 'Open' Host Controller (OHCI) Driver (PCI) ohci_hcd: block sizes: ed 64 td 64 USB Universal Host Controller Interface driver v2.2 I am not sure what these lines mean, but the word "fail" occurs four times; and anything connected to a USB port is not detected. The mainboard is a Chaintech Socket 370 ATX form factor model 6VJDO-C100A.. CPU is a Celeron Coppermine 1mH. Chipset is VIA Pro266. South bridge is VIA VT8233. Phoenix (now Award) BIOS is according to the manufacturer's website the latest, which was installed when I purchased the board and CPU on 5 August 2003 (I had Windows 98 on it before). Two USB ports mounted on the mainboard. The specs say that the board is not compatible with Windows XP. When I bought it I did not think that this incompatibility was important, because I never intended to use XP. Does anybody know whether I can somehow tweak hotplug to load and, if so, how? Or does the incompatibility go beyond XP? -- Ken Heard Research Associate Museum Studies Program University of Toronto, Canada -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Have DVD burner, will backup!
On Fri, 04 Aug 2006 00:11:32 +0300 David Baron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks, I'll try it all and let you know how it works out. The > problem is that the partial burns are now useless except for scratch. Are you using DVD-RW disks? I did have a problem with daromizer the first time I used it because I was using regular DVD-R. The script is definitely written for use with DVD-RW disks. -- Bill Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Keeping dependencies when running alien
I'm trying to use alien to convert a vendor's RPM to .deb. Mainly so I can install it cleanly, but also to help them out. The REQUIRENAME from the RPM has this (x is the app...X'ed out due to the fact that this is a beta test, and I'm not sure how much news they want in public): /bin/sh /bin/sh /bin/sh config(x) = 3.3-15 libc.so.6 libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.0) libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.1) libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.1.3) libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2.3) libdl.so.2 libdl.so.2(GLIBC_2.0) libdl.so.2(GLIBC_2.1) libgcc_s.so.1 libgcc_s.so.1(GCC_3.0) libgcc_s.so.1(GLIBC_2.0) libm.so.6 libm.so.6(GLIBC_2.0) libpthread.so.0 libpthread.so.0(GLIBC_2.0) libpthread.so.0(GLIBC_2.1) libpthread.so.0(GLIBC_2.1.1) libpthread.so.0(GLIBC_2.3.2) libstdc++.so.6 libstdc++.so.6(CXXABI_1.3) libstdc++.so.6(CXXABI_1.3.1) libstdc++.so.6(GLIBCXX_3.4) libstdc++.so.6(GLIBCXX_3.4.5) rpmlib(CompressedFileNames) <= 3.0.4-1 rpmlib(PayloadFilesHavePrefix) <= 4.0-1 PROVIDES has this: config(x) xx.so x But, when I convert it to a .deb via alien, the control file looks like this: Package: x Version: 3.3-16 Section: alien Priority: extra Architecture: i386 Installed-Size: 9732 Maintainer: Joshua Kugler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Description: x for Linux 3.3 . x Linux contains the x server daemon for Linux as well as the and data export daemons. This RPM will install init scripts to start each of these daemons individually. . (Converted from a rpm package by alien version 8.52.) There is no Depends: line. So, how do I instruct alien to convert these dependencies over? Thanks! j -- Joshua Kugler Lead System Admin -- Senior Programmer http://www.eeinternet.com PGP Key: http://pgp.mit.edu/ ID 0xDB26D7CE PO Box 80086 -- Fairbanks, AK 99708 -- Ph: 907-456-5581 Fax: 907-456-3111 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Have DVD burner, will backup!
On Thursday 03 August 2006 23:37, Bill Thompson wrote: > On Tue, 20 Jun 2006 15:14:15 +0300 > > David Baron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tuesday 20 June 2006 02:19, David E. Fox wrote: > > > All I could get out of darmonizer was "waiting for the > > volume>" and then it just stops. > > > > I got daromizer to produce and burn one (smaller) slice. Could not > > coax it into continuing from there. > > It took me awhile to resolve this, but I finally have a solution for > both of these problems. > > First, daromizer needs to be run as a local script with the second > script "darmon" located in the same directory. If you try to treat it > as a standard program and copy the script to a /bin directory the script > will hang at the "waiting for the " prompt. The easiest > thing to do is unpack the daromizer tarball, cd to the extracted > directory and run "./daromizer". everything is on a ~/daromizer directory so this should not have been the problem. > > Second, there is a typo in the most recent daromizer release > (daromizer81.tar.gz) that prevents the script from recognizing that > there is a second dar slice to be burned. This is why the script is > burning one disk and then exiting as if the backup is finished. > > To fix this issue, open the daromizer script with your favorite text > editor and change line 303 which states: > $slicefile = $temppath.$shortname.$slice.$ext; > > to read: > $slicefile = $temppath.$shortname.".".$slice.$ext; Easy enough. I should start from a new download though since I was playing a lot with the script and this line is no longer 303 and I do not remember all that I did to it. > > This will correct the issue and let daromizer burn multiple disks as it > should. I have notified the author of this issue, so hopefully a > corrected script will be released on his site soon. Thanks, I'll try it all and let you know how it works out. The problem is that the partial burns are now useless except for scratch. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apt-get fails through broken proxy
Ottavio Caruso wrote: > I just wonder if anyone has a possible workaround on > my end, before giving up. Maybe you can tunnel out with ssh? -- Chris Howie http://www.chrishowie.com -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GCS/IT d-(--) s:- a-->? C++(+++)$> UL P$ L+++> E--- W++ N o++ K? w--$ O M- V- PS--(---) PE++ Y+ PGP++ t+ 5? X- R(+)>- tv-(--) b- DI+> D++ G>+++ e>++ h(--)>--- !r>+++ y->+++ --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
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I am trying to install Hibernate (suspend2). I did path 2.6.18-rc3 for kernel 2.6.17, but I can not find CONFIG_SUSPEND2_USERSPACE_UI in my .config file. That is problem? Kernel should be set with parameters CONFIG_SUSPEND2=y CONFIG_SUSPEND2_FILEWRITER=y CONFIG_SUSPEND2_SWAPWRITER=y CONFIG_SUSPEND2_USERSPACE_UI=y CONFIG_CRYPTO_LZF=y http://www.suspend2.net/HOWTO-2.html#ss2.1 Any help appreciated. Alex Yakushev. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Have DVD burner, will backup!
On Tue, 20 Jun 2006 15:14:15 +0300 David Baron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tuesday 20 June 2006 02:19, David E. Fox wrote: > > > > All I could get out of darmonizer was "waiting for the > volume>" and then it just stops. > > I got daromizer to produce and burn one (smaller) slice. Could not > coax it into continuing from there. It took me awhile to resolve this, but I finally have a solution for both of these problems. First, daromizer needs to be run as a local script with the second script "darmon" located in the same directory. If you try to treat it as a standard program and copy the script to a /bin directory the script will hang at the "waiting for the " prompt. The easiest thing to do is unpack the daromizer tarball, cd to the extracted directory and run "./daromizer". Second, there is a typo in the most recent daromizer release (daromizer81.tar.gz) that prevents the script from recognizing that there is a second dar slice to be burned. This is why the script is burning one disk and then exiting as if the backup is finished. To fix this issue, open the daromizer script with your favorite text editor and change line 303 which states: $slicefile = $temppath.$shortname.$slice.$ext; to read: $slicefile = $temppath.$shortname.".".$slice.$ext; This will correct the issue and let daromizer burn multiple disks as it should. I have notified the author of this issue, so hopefully a corrected script will be released on his site soon. -- Bill Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: remove/replace non-ascii characters from file
Johannes Wiedersich wrote:
Mike McCarty wrote:
garbage (represented as [EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]@
etc.)
I suppose you mean "non-graphic ASCII". Those are NUL characters,
which the ASCII *definition* states can be inserted or removed
from *any* stream without changing its meaning. This means that
your application is not ASCII compliant. Sorry, but in this case
(unusual, I know) Windows is right and your app is wrong.
Well, I don't know that much about the ASCII *definition*, but if I open
the file in Window$ notepad (I never use that for any purpose, I just
did it out of curiosity), these characters appear as additional spaces.
They are saved as spaces and in the saved file the characters are
replaced by spaces (ie. linux-compliant spaces).
So, if you are right, that means that M$ notepad converts these NUL
characters to spaces, which is a bad thing, if these are indeed
different characters and useful for anything.
Yes, it is doing a Bad Thing. ASCII was originally intended for use
as an Information Interchange, including use over serial lines,
and to slow (mechanical) printers connected on the other end.
The purpose of NUL was to allow the sender to pad the transmission
after sending characters which might take the receiver a "long"
time to process, like CR (carriage return). They are like NOPs in
computer programming. They eat time, but otherwise do nothing
else. One is supposed to be able to insert or delete them from
any ASCII stream without changing the meaning of the stream.
The ASCII code for SP (graphic space) is 0x20. The ASCII code for NUL
(null character) is 0x00. They are indeed not the same thing. SP is
supposed to be *meaningful* in an ASCII stream. NUL is not.
Deleting/inserting an ASCII space is supposed to change its meaning.
For example, "therapist" and "the rapist" do not mean the same thing
(usually).
Anyway, I don't think it is a useful feature of a program to include NUL
characters in the header of data files like the present one which just
consists of a short header and two columns of x and y data. I'd be
curious of the programmer's reason for putting about 50 of these at the
end of the comment.
I have no idea why they were inserted there[*]. They are not very useful
when used to *store* as opposed to *move* data. If one had a very dumb
terminal program, and needed to communucate with some possibly slow
"other" device (like a uController programming EEPROM or the like)
it might be useful to insert NUL characters into the file itself
at strategic points to allow programming time.
[*]A possible guess why they were put there: This is a fixed-length
field, and it makes a C programmer's job a little easier if he reads
a NUL terminated string into a fixed array.
You might try tr. On another note, here's a C program which will do what
you want. It's written as a filter, so no file names on the line... this
is strictly no-frills programming. Placed into the public domain by
me, the original author today, Thursday 3 August 2006. If you *need*
file names on the command line (like for use with find and xargs)
then I can add that, but I thought something quick'n'nasty might
be more what you need.
I appreciate your effort! I was anyway writing a script to postprocess
the data, so the most convenient way was to remove the junk via another
command line.
You're welcome, and no problem if you don't use it. It was a 15 minute
effort anyway. I did test it, as you saw, though.
Mike
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Re: SW RAID read performance
Hm ah nice. avg-cpu: %user %nice %system %iowait %steal %idle 0.000.005.05 94.950.000.00 Device:rrqm/s wrqm/s r/s w/srkB/swkB/s avgrq-sz avgqu-sz await svctm %util sda277.78 0.00 100.00 1.01 23660.61 4.04 468.56 0.68 6.73 6.49 65.56 sdb 97.98 0.00 104.04 3.03 12836.3612.12 240.00 1.25 16.51 3.29 35.25 md0 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 md2 0.00 0.00 578.79 0.00 36496.97 0.00 126.12 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 md3 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 md1 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 avg-cpu: %user %nice %system %iowait %steal %idle 0.990.005.94 93.070.000.00 Device:rrqm/s wrqm/s r/s w/srkB/swkB/s avgrq-sz avgqu-sz await svctm %util sda205.94 0.00 74.26 0.99 17841.58 3.96 474.32 0.47 6.34 6.30 47.43 sdb213.86 0.00 76.24 0.00 18186.14 0.00 477.09 0.52 6.57 6.55 49.90 Both a+b are both reading simultaneously. On Thu, 3 Aug 2006, Dave Ewart wrote: On Thursday, 03.08.2006 at 15:30 -0400, Justin Piszcz wrote: I've only ran the benchmarks on a single controller. Run a test for me, read a lot of data on the drive and show us iostat -x -k 1 and see if it reads from both drives at the same time. http://www.sungate.co.uk/tmp/iostat.log - iostat log while cat-ing a large file on /dev/md2 $ cat /proc/mdstat Personalities : [raid1] md1 : active raid1 sdb2[0] sda2[1] 19534976 blocks [2/2] [UU] md3 : active raid1 sdb3[1] sda3[0] 464 blocks [2/2] [UU] md2 : active raid1 sdb4[0] sda4[1] 156071360 blocks [2/2] [UU] md0 : active raid1 sdb1[0] sda1[1] 19534912 blocks [2/2] [UU] unused devices: Not entirely sure how to interpret the results, but there is some suggestion that it is reading from both disks... Dave. -- Please don't CC me on list messages! ... Dave Ewart - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] All email from me is now digitally signed, key from http://www.sungate.co.uk/ Fingerprint: AEC5 9360 0A35 7F66 66E9 82E4 9E10 6769 CD28 DA92 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SW RAID read performance
On Thursday, 03.08.2006 at 15:30 -0400, Justin Piszcz wrote: > I've only ran the benchmarks on a single controller. Run a test for me, > read a lot of data on the drive and show us iostat -x -k 1 and see if it > reads from both drives at the same time. http://www.sungate.co.uk/tmp/iostat.log - iostat log while cat-ing a large file on /dev/md2 $ cat /proc/mdstat Personalities : [raid1] md1 : active raid1 sdb2[0] sda2[1] 19534976 blocks [2/2] [UU] md3 : active raid1 sdb3[1] sda3[0] 464 blocks [2/2] [UU] md2 : active raid1 sdb4[0] sda4[1] 156071360 blocks [2/2] [UU] md0 : active raid1 sdb1[0] sda1[1] 19534912 blocks [2/2] [UU] unused devices: Not entirely sure how to interpret the results, but there is some suggestion that it is reading from both disks... Dave. -- Please don't CC me on list messages! ... Dave Ewart - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] All email from me is now digitally signed, key from http://www.sungate.co.uk/ Fingerprint: AEC5 9360 0A35 7F66 66E9 82E4 9E10 6769 CD28 DA92 signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Configuring APT to use localhost port as a proxy
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andrew Pogrebennyk wrote: > Hello, > > I have a ssh tunnel which connects localhost:3128 to remote proxy. I > have tried setting environment variables to localhost:3128 (and > http://localhost:3128) and modifying apt.conf as well, but apt tries to > fetch files from 3128:80 :/ > What would you suggest? > > Please add cc to the address I'm writing from since I am not subscribed > to this mailing list. Create a file in /etc/apt called apt.conf and put the following line in: Acquire::http::Proxy "http://localhost:3128"; -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFE0kb0tYqd1KeuQA8RAnH6AJ413sLR5IV+mXrsPq2VY4ZOyp/20wCgtObW asoFksJvslKpsieHjJ5oZKw= =SjtB -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SW RAID read performance
I've only ran the benchmarks on a single controller. Run a test for me, read a lot of data on the drive and show us iostat -x -k 1 and see if it reads from both drives at the same time. On Thu, 3 Aug 2006, Dave Ewart wrote: On Thursday, 03.08.2006 at 07:30 -0400, Justin Piszcz wrote: I have 2 disks in RAID 1 and I expected reading will be approx. 2x faster then a single disk reading because there can be used the same technique as on RAID 0. I tested it with bonnie++. Can linux SW RAID 1 read "in stripes" to boost the reading performance? From my benchmarking on my RAID1 (dual raptor RAID1) it appears it reads from one drive or the other. It all depends on which disk controllers you're using and their throughput. I have two, separate SATA disks on two different SATA controllers and read performance in a RAID-1 configuration *is* (nearly) twice that of a single disk, in many situations. I think I've got the benchmark statistics somewhere... If "it appears it reads from one drive or the other" is the case, then you probably have a bottleneck somewhere else. Are these disks on the same controller channel? Dave. -- Please don't CC me on list messages! ... Dave Ewart - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] All email from me is now digitally signed, key from http://www.sungate.co.uk/ Fingerprint: AEC5 9360 0A35 7F66 66E9 82E4 9E10 6769 CD28 DA92 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apt-get fails through broken proxy
On Thu, 3 Aug 2006 11:24:35 -0700 (PDT) Ottavio Caruso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I run a Debian derivative on a portable memory stick > and I have to connect through an ISA proxy server > (both http and ftp). > > The proxy is broken and misconfigured so it won't > download any .gz files, hence I can't apt-get. > I have reported the case and the possible solution to > system administrator, who is happily ignoring it, so I > have to live with that. > > I can download .deb files so I can install individual > packages, but I can't update/upgrade. > > I just wonder if anyone has a possible workaround on > my end, before giving up. I would try ntlmaps as a go-between. I have often used it successfully with upstream ISA proxy servers. [...] -- Liam -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Configuring APT to use localhost port as a proxy
Hello, Niall Donegan wrote: > Create a file in /etc/apt called apt.conf and put the following line in: > Acquire::http::Proxy "http://localhost:3128"; I tried doing so before, but I must have forgotten to restart aptitude that time. And after restart it work well. Thanks a lot! Ryan Nowakowski wrote: > Here's my sources.list: > > # Sarge (proxied) > deb http://localhost:/debian/ sarge main non-free contrib > deb-src http://localhost:/debian/ sarge main non-free contrib > > # Security (proxied) > deb http://localhost:/security sarge/updates main non-free contrib > > Here's my .ssh/config for this host: > > Host host1 > RemoteForward aptproxy: Thanks for a nice idea! -- Regards, Andrew Pogrebennyk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: remove/replace non-ascii characters from file
Mike McCarty wrote: garbage (represented as [EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]@ etc.) I suppose you mean "non-graphic ASCII". Those are NUL characters, which the ASCII *definition* states can be inserted or removed from *any* stream without changing its meaning. This means that your application is not ASCII compliant. Sorry, but in this case (unusual, I know) Windows is right and your app is wrong. Well, I don't know that much about the ASCII *definition*, but if I open the file in Window$ notepad (I never use that for any purpose, I just did it out of curiosity), these characters appear as additional spaces. They are saved as spaces and in the saved file the characters are replaced by spaces (ie. linux-compliant spaces). So, if you are right, that means that M$ notepad converts these NUL characters to spaces, which is a bad thing, if these are indeed different characters and useful for anything. Anyway, I don't think it is a useful feature of a program to include NUL characters in the header of data files like the present one which just consists of a short header and two columns of x and y data. I'd be curious of the programmer's reason for putting about 50 of these at the end of the comment. You might try tr. On another note, here's a C program which will do what you want. It's written as a filter, so no file names on the line... this is strictly no-frills programming. Placed into the public domain by me, the original author today, Thursday 3 August 2006. If you *need* file names on the command line (like for use with find and xargs) then I can add that, but I thought something quick'n'nasty might be more what you need. I appreciate your effort! I was anyway writing a script to postprocess the data, so the most convenient way was to remove the junk via another command line. Thanks, Johannes -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: synthetic sound generator with api
On Thu, Aug 03, 2006 at 08:40:01PM +0200, CJ van den Berg wrote: > On Thu, Aug 03, 2006 at 10:36:35AM -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > > No, I don't want to play back anything: I want to *generate* a beeping > > sound. The type depends upon the occasion. I missed the original message, but how about the beep package? [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ apt-cache show beep Package: beep Priority: optional Section: sound Installed-Size: 104 Maintainer: Gerfried Fuchs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Architecture: i386 Version: 1.2.2-18 Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.6-6), debconf (>= 0.5) | debconf-2.0 Filename: pool/main/b/beep/beep_1.2.2-18_i386.deb Size: 21380 MD5sum: 77e1b5f308fa73db6fb0fb2dad345d0f SHA1: 3491f6680348fb2a6697458aa98d5cbf18c6d1d1 SHA256: c217b565424548948b8f25d8ef0eefb733ff34988f28a0a46ea53a7040266db4 Description: advanced pc-speaker beeper beep does what you'd expect: it beeps. But unlike printf "\a" beep allows you to control pitch, duration, and repetitions. Its job is to live inside shell/perl scripts and allow more granularity than one has otherwise. It is controlled completely through command line options. It's not supposed to be complex, and it isn't - but it makes system monitoring (or whatever else it gets hacked into) much more informative. Tag: interface::commandline, made-of::lang:c, role::sw:utility, works-with::audio A signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Corrupt JFS inode table?
Greetings, We have a Dell 2850 running the 2.6.15-1 kernel and have created 2 JFS file systems from the non-boot internal drives. Both JFS file system disks come from the same raid group. The other day the system quit responding and we ended up having to power cycle the box. When it booted, everything looked OK, file systems marked clean, mount points correct, etc. Shortly after the reboot we received a call from an engineer that said some of their data had no permissions or size. Another user reported that a file he opened did not contain the contents of the file that should have been there. That was for one file system. The other JFS file system appears to have come through cleanly. We ended up having to restore the entire first file system. Below is an example of what happened to the files that changed. The first one is the old file that changed after the reboot and the second one is the one that was restored. -- 1 meg Debian-exim 0 Jul 19 13:47 cdsinit -rwxr-xr-x 1 meg Debian-exim 17 Jul 19 13:47 cdsinit As you can see, the ownership and time stamp stayed the same, but file permissions were wiped and the size was nulled out in the first one. We unmounted the file system and probably did about 6 fsck of the file system with various options and even rebooted the box again. Nothing changed. Not all data in the file system changed, just random directories and files. We really need to find out what happened, otherwise we don't feel we can trust this server or file system with critical data. Any help debugging or diagnosing the problem will be greatly appreciated. If there is another list that might be more appropriate for this problem, please let me know. Thanks, Jeff -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Film scoring software
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chuckk Hubbard wrote: > Anyone know a MIDI/audio sequencer for Linux that can score video too? I can recommend lilypond for the scoring of the music. Rosegarden seems to be a midi sequencer with support for lilypond, however I haven't used it. Both programs are available in Apt. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFE0kgbtYqd1KeuQA8RAo6PAJ9TIH6LDcElVO2vXi14G+fzwXFD/gCePGMk 4CYJOmJAuDQDmGhTPpL1m7A= =GyJc -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: remove/replace non-ascii characters from file
Thanks to all and thanks for replying so fast. I must have somehow overlooked grep's -a option. Shame on me. But I also knew that there *must* be command to just remove the 'garbage'; I just didn't know how to find out that 'strings' does it. Good that one can always ask debian-user! Johannes -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SW RAID read performance
On 8/3/06, Dave Ewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Thursday, 03.08.2006 at 07:30 -0400, Justin Piszcz wrote: > From my benchmarking on my RAID1 (dual raptor RAID1) it appears it > reads from one drive or the other. It all depends on which disk controllers you're using and their throughput. I have two, separate SATA disks on two different SATA controllers and read performance in a RAID-1 configuration *is* (nearly) twice that of a single disk, in many situations. I think I've got the benchmark statistics somewhere... If "it appears it reads from one drive or the other" is the case, then you probably have a bottleneck somewhere else. Are these disks on the same controller channel? I have an Abit AX8 (http://www.abit-usa.com/products/mb/products.php?categories=1&model=215), with four SATA ports (two controllers). I have for some time been planning a RAID5 setup using 3 SATA drives on this motherboard. There would be two SATA drives on one controller, and one SATA drive on the second controller. I had assumed that a loss of performance with multiple drives (on a single controller) only applied to PATA; does it apply to SATA too? If so, I won't get any better performance with RAID5... Thanks for your help. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: woody i386 isos
2006. August 3. 19:50, Egon Kocjan: > Hi > > Does anyone know where I can get original woody i386 isos? First CD > would be ok. > > Thanx, > egon You can get older (and *obsolete*) releases from here: ftp://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/images/ Daniel -- LeVA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
apt-get fails through broken proxy
I run a Debian derivative on a portable memory stick and I have to connect through an ISA proxy server (both http and ftp). The proxy is broken and misconfigured so it won't download any .gz files, hence I can't apt-get. I have reported the case and the possible solution to system administrator, who is happily ignoring it, so I have to live with that. I can download .deb files so I can install individual packages, but I can't update/upgrade. I just wonder if anyone has a possible workaround on my end, before giving up. Thanks Ottavio Caruso -- No individual replies, please! __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Configuring APT to use localhost port as a proxy
On Thu, Aug 03, 2006 at 07:03:08PM +0300, Andrew Pogrebennyk wrote: > Hello, > > I have a ssh tunnel which connects localhost:3128 to remote proxy. I > have tried setting environment variables to localhost:3128 (and > http://localhost:3128) and modifying apt.conf as well, but apt tries to > fetch files from 3128:80 :/ > What would you suggest? Here's my sources.list: # Sarge (proxied) deb http://localhost:/debian/ sarge main non-free contrib deb-src http://localhost:/debian/ sarge main non-free contrib # Security (proxied) deb http://localhost:/security sarge/updates main non-free contrib Here's my .ssh/config for this host: Host host1 RemoteForward aptproxy: signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: synthetic sound generator with api
On Thu, Aug 03, 2006 at 10:36:35AM -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > No, I don't want to play back anything: I want to *generate* a beeping > sound. The type depends upon the occasion. So you actually want to synthesize the beep? Is that right? If you really do want just a beep you could synthesize the sine wave yourself pretty easily. The one and only source code example in the libao coincidentally does exactly that. http://www.xiph.org/ao/doc/ao_example.c > Right now I use Nas, which has good support from Jon Trulson. But that > is meant really as a network sound server and not made for playing back > to a particular sound card. The libao alsa driver (alsa09), which I assume you would be using, allows you to specify which device (ie. sound card) you want to use. The oss driver will too. > E.g. if it is 11:30 I want to produce 5 beeps for maritime chimes. > If the dialup line goes down I want to produce 9 beeps. > > I would prefer to produce the beeps for a particular soundcard, for the > user that is logged on to a monotor that uses that card. A few lines of tweaking to that example I linked above should do exactly what you want. -- CJ van den Berg mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] xmpp:[EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: SW RAID read performance
On Thursday, 03.08.2006 at 07:30 -0400, Justin Piszcz wrote: > >I have 2 disks in RAID 1 and I expected reading will be approx. 2x > >faster then a single disk reading because there can be used the same > >technique as on RAID 0. I tested it with bonnie++. Can linux SW RAID > >1 read "in stripes" to boost the reading performance? > > From my benchmarking on my RAID1 (dual raptor RAID1) it appears it > reads from one drive or the other. It all depends on which disk controllers you're using and their throughput. I have two, separate SATA disks on two different SATA controllers and read performance in a RAID-1 configuration *is* (nearly) twice that of a single disk, in many situations. I think I've got the benchmark statistics somewhere... If "it appears it reads from one drive or the other" is the case, then you probably have a bottleneck somewhere else. Are these disks on the same controller channel? Dave. -- Please don't CC me on list messages! ... Dave Ewart - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] All email from me is now digitally signed, key from http://www.sungate.co.uk/ Fingerprint: AEC5 9360 0A35 7F66 66E9 82E4 9E10 6769 CD28 DA92 signature.asc Description: Digital signature
woody i386 isos
Hi Does anyone know where I can get original woody i386 isos? First CD would be ok. Thanx, egon -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: remove/replace non-ascii characters from file
Johannes Wiedersich wrote:
I have a silly Window$ application that is supposed to export ascii
data. In fact the file is 99% percent ascii (after dos2unix), but
contains a line starting with "Comment: " that contains non-ascii
garbage (represented as [EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]@ etc.)
I suppose you mean "non-graphic ASCII". Those are NUL characters,
which the ASCII *definition* states can be inserted or removed
from *any* stream without changing its meaning. This means that
your application is not ASCII compliant. Sorry, but in this case
(unusual, I know) Windows is right and your app is wrong.
I tried
$ grep -v Comment
but that just returns
Binary file darkaa2.dat matches
Yah. Unfortunately, grep isn't very smart in this way.
Is there a simple way to remove this line?
Before I start looking at sed or gawk, I would just like to know, if
they would work with these silly 'binary files'.
NB: I can open the file with nano and manually delete the line, but it's
not just one file to process.
You might try tr. On another note, here's a C program which will do what
you want. It's written as a filter, so no file names on the line... this
is strictly no-frills programming. Placed into the public domain by
me, the original author today, Thursday 3 August 2006. If you *need*
file names on the command line (like for use with find and xargs)
then I can add that, but I thought something quick'n'nasty might
be more what you need.
nonul.c
#include
#include
#define NUL 0x00
#define OMIT NUL
int main(void) {
int Chr;
while ((Chr = getchar()) != EOF) {
if (Chr != OMIT)
putchar(Chr);
}
return EXIT_SUCCESS;
}
end nonul.c
$ gcc -o nonul nonul.c
$ hexdump -C junk.txt
43 6f 6d 6d 65 6e 74 3a 20 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 |Comment:
...|
0010 00 00 00 00 00 00 0a 0a ||
0018
$ ./nonul < junk.txt >junk1.txt
$ hexdump -C junk1.txt
43 6f 6d 6d 65 6e 74 3a 20 0a 0a |Comment: ..|
000b
If you find that the characters are something other than NUL
(ASCII code 0x00), then just substitute that for NUL. For example
if it is backspace (BS) then add this line...
#define BS 0x08
and change OMIT to BS
#define OMIT BS
Thanks,
HTH. If not, then I can ship you a program.
Mike
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Re: Erro GPG, unknow error
yesterday comes to work fine again, thanksRafael FerrazMathias Brodala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escreveu: Hello Rafael.rafael ferraz schrieb:> I give the apt-get update returns that error> W: GPG error: http://ftp.de.debian.org unstable Release: Erro> desconhecido executando gpgv> > (is in portuguese and tells an unknow error)Could you post the error *exactly* as it is shown?And run the command the following way please: LC_ALL=C apt-get update(One line, no linebreak, no semicolon.)Regards, Mathias Você quer respostas para suas perguntas? Ou você sabe muito e quer compartilhar seu conhecimento? Experimente o Yahoo! Respostas!
Configuring APT to use localhost port as a proxy
Hello, I have a ssh tunnel which connects localhost:3128 to remote proxy. I have tried setting environment variables to localhost:3128 (and http://localhost:3128) and modifying apt.conf as well, but apt tries to fetch files from 3128:80 :/ What would you suggest? Please add cc to the address I'm writing from since I am not subscribed to this mailing list. -- Regards, Andrew Pogrebennyk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Do I need to upgrade my kernel (kernel-image-2.4-k6)?
First read http://linuxmafia.com/~rick/faq/index.php?page=netiquette#offlist > Now `apt-cache policy kernel-image-2.4.27-3-k6' shows that > 2.4.27-10sarge3is installed and `apt-cache policy > kernel-image-2.4.27-2-k6' shows that 2.4.27-10sarge1 is > installed. Can you post full output of these commands, please? > I therefore > assume that it is possible to install > the "3" version and get rid of the "2" version. Yes. Best, Matěj -- GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej/blog/, Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 23 Marion St. #3, (617) 876-1259, ICQ 132822213 I would like to die sleeping, like my father rather than screaming and helpless, like his passengers
Re: remove/replace non-ascii characters from file
On Thu, 3 Aug 2006, Johannes Wiedersich wrote: > I have a silly Window$ application that is supposed to export ascii > data. In fact the file is 99% percent ascii (after dos2unix), but > contains a line starting with "Comment: " that contains non-ascii > garbage (represented as [EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL > PROTECTED]@ etc.) > > I tried > $ grep -v Comment > but that just returns > Binary file darkaa2.dat matches > > Is there a simple way to remove this line? Why not filter the file through "strings" first? eg: strings infile > outfile That will remove any non-printable characters. Or use "tr", eg: tr -cd '[:print:]\n' < infile > outfile That will delete any characters that are not printable or newlines or spaces. You will probably need to experiment a little to ensure that these don't remove any other characters that you still want. Regards Jim Holland System Administrator MANGO - Zimbabwe's non-profit e-mail service -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: synthetic sound generator with api
CJ van den Berg wrote: On Thu, Aug 03, 2006 at 08:31:26AM -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: I want to generate beeping sounds in a program. I now use Nas, but it is a PITA because it either hangs with 2 soundcards installed or it fails w/o saying why. Has anybody got another program that does this? I'm not sure I understand what you want to do, but it sounds like you want to playback digital audio samples. If so, what you probably want is something like libao2 and libao-dev. No, I don't want to play back anything: I want to *generate* a beeping sound. The type depends upon the occasion. Right now I use Nas, which has good support from Jon Trulson. But that is meant really as a network sound server and not made for playing back to a particular sound card. E.g. if it is 11:30 I want to produce 5 beeps for maritime chimes. If the dialup line goes down I want to produce 9 beeps. I would prefer to produce the beeps for a particular soundcard, for the user that is logged on to a monotor that uses that card. H -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: remove/replace non-ascii characters from file
Johannes Wiedersich wrote: > I tried > $ grep -v Comment > but that just returns > Binary file darkaa2.dat matches Would grep -a -v Comment help? grep(1) is your friend. :-) Matěj -- GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej/blog/, Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 23 Marion St. #3, (617) 876-1259, ICQ 132822213 Roses are red; Violets are blue. I'm schizophrenic, And so am I. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Net-install CD: What it does to existing partitions and installations
On Thu, Aug 03, 2006 at 10:32:01AM +0900, Ian Astley wrote: > I currently run a Linux machine under Fedora Core 5. I am interested in > having a look at Debian too and downloaded and burnt the Net-install CD > from the main site, with a view to compiling a Debian kernel which I > would then have nominated in GRUB alongside the existing FC5 kernels I > have. The CD booted as it should but when I got to the partitioning > options I was not too sure exactly what it would do to the existing > partitions (which it identified correctly), since the on-screen > directions did not explicitly state that my existing installation would > be left unharmed. Fedora and SuSE, both of which I have, are much > clearer about this stage in the installation process. Could anyone > clarify this please? I downloaded the Net-install CD because I did not > want to go through the rigmarole of downloading a full set of CDs when > conceivable I would only need a fraction of the data in the first > instance. > As others have already said, you can keep any pre-existing OSs by choosing manual partitioning during Debian install. Here, I'll give a tip about the partitioner user interface. The interface is somewhat confusing to a first time user. To make a change you hilite the item that you wish to change and press 'return'. Pressing return selects that item for editing. It brings up another menu in which you actually get a chance to change the value, but by this time the original value is gone from view. If this is confusing, well yes. This is confusing. However, don't worry. Nothing gets changed on disk until you say OK, make changes twice. If you want to mount the partitions containing other OS when Debian is in charge, you should be careful to ensure that you select 'keep original data'. If you don't try to have Debian mount the partitions, they will not be touched. -- Paul E Condon [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Xine affects Emacs
Markus Petermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I tried xev in diverse combinations with xine and emacs, but I have > never been able to catch the event. In my case Emacs shows which key is the culprit in the echo area instead of just beeping (I use Emacs 22 from the emacs-snapshot package). But xev catches the event too, as long as it has the focus while Xine is playing. -- ,''`. : :' :Romain Francoise <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> `. `' http://people.debian.org/~rfrancoise/ `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mobile phone management utility
i forgot to add this to my last responce : here is another cool prog for kde . kmobiletools. it allow you to call send sms and buckup phonebook and sms. the problem with it that it dosn't support iso 8859-8 . Digby Tarvin wrote: On Thu, Aug 03, 2006 at 04:32:50PM +0300, Jabka Atu wrote: deb http://mirror.hamakor.org.il/pub/mirrors/debian/ testing main contrib non-free deb http://mirror.hamakor.org.il/pub/mirrors/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free Rodolfo Medina wrote: Rodolfo Medina wrote: I installed `gumma' and tried it with a Nokia, but even this one didn't work: $ gammu --getmemory DC 1 Warning: No configuration file found! Unknown connection type string. Check config file. $ gnokii --getphonebook SM 1 GNOKII Version 0.6.5 Telephone interface init failed: Command timed out. Quitting. , so there must be something important that I'm missing. Can anyone point that out? Jabka Atu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Rodolfo you could you use apt-get : apt-get update. apt-get install moto4lin. here is my policy for this package: debian:/home/mha13# apt-cache policy moto4lin moto4lin: Installed: 0.3+cvs20050925-2 Candidate: 0.3+cvs20050925-2 Version table: *** 0.3+cvs20050925-2 0 500 http://mirror.hamakor.org.il testing/main Packages 500 http://mirror.hamakor.org.il unstable/main Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status Thanks. Could you please send out your /etc/apt/sources.list? Cheers, Rodolfo I have experimented with this, and have been able to use it to nevigate the filesystem and upload and download audio and image files, I still havn't found a way to upload/download the content of the phone book or backup text messages. Anyone have any idea how to do this? My phone is a Motorola C380. Regards, DigbyT -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Internet connection disappeared after debian-install on laptop
Kent West wrote:
Vegard L. Rekaa wrote:
I'm installing Debian Etch (with netinstall-cdimage) on a laptop.
During installation, it configured the DHCP-internet-connection
automaticly, downloaded all 708 packages and installed them perfectly.
Which means your NIC works with Debian. That's good.
But, when I reboot the system after intall, the internet connection is
gone. I checked with another computer, that the line out is OK, but
still when I plug the (ADSL) modem to the laptop, internett is not
available.
I'm not experienced with internett-connection setup, so I must ask:
1. Wich commands gives output that makes it possible to locate the error?
2. Is there a way to repeat the auto-configuration I saw during
installation after the system is up and running?
3. Any other advices or hints are very much welcome!
System specs:
- The internet connection is broadband, with dynamic IP-adress (ADSL
through the telephone-line).
- No password or login nescesarry.
- Debian Etch (testing) kernel 2.6.15-486
- Laptop has no internal network-device, but has one available when
connected to the docking station (wich of course is connected).
Run "lspci" while attached to the docking station. Look for an entry
mentioning your network card. You may need to "modprobe ", where
is the name of the appropriate module for your network card.
You could also run "modconf" (if it's installed) for a more menu-driven
pick-and-choose method of installing the correct module (and this method
has the advantage of adding the module to "/etc/modules" so it'll be
loaded on succeeding reboots - otherwise you'll have to add it manually).
I think that nowadays there's a utility ("discover"?) that should
automagically probe for and insert correct modules on boot-up, but it
may not be working properly for you for whatever reason.
Once the correct module ("driver", in Windows-speak) has been loaded,
you may still need to restart your network, with "/etc/init.d/networking
restart". You may also need to define your network settings in
"/etc/network/interfaces".
I know this is not very specific, but it might point you in the right
direction.
I lately discovered that after 2 installs on 2 different computer that
in etc/network/interfaces, there is no line with , say auto eth0. So
Check that, if you dont have this add it. And then restart you r laptop,
it should work.
Thierry
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Re: CUPS dependencies
On Thu, Aug 03, 2006 at 10:13:16AM +0200, Johannes Wiedersich wrote: > Just guessing: > Did you check the print queue? On our cups installation sometimes people > print to printers that are currently switched off. Those jobs have to be > manually deleted from the print queue, before the printer will print > again. I'm not sure if this is a bug or a 'feature', though. > > (point your favourite web browser to localhost:631) Thanks, but I can't check the print queue when CUPS refuses to start. After a purge/reinstall, the queue is empty. -- Carl Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you attempt to fix something that isn't broken, it will be. -Bruce Tognazzini -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How do you get vim-latexsuite to work?
I installed Debian's vim-latexsuite package. It seemed to install fine, but when I open a .tex document none of the commands seem to work. For example, when I push F5, I don't get a menu of options to choose like equartion , etc.. Or when I type :TTemplate it doesn't give me template options. Anyways, none of the commands seem to work. I tried to read documentation, but I can't find anything that tells me how to get it working. There is no man page. I was just wondering, how do I get vim-latexsuite to work? Do I have to issue a command? Do I have to uncomment some parameter in a config file? Thanks. Joseph Smidt -- Joseph Smidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
remove/replace non-ascii characters from file
I have a silly Window$ application that is supposed to export ascii data. In fact the file is 99% percent ascii (after dos2unix), but contains a line starting with "Comment: " that contains non-ascii garbage (represented as [EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]@ etc.) I tried $ grep -v Comment but that just returns Binary file darkaa2.dat matches Is there a simple way to remove this line? Before I start looking at sed or gawk, I would just like to know, if they would work with these silly 'binary files'. NB: I can open the file with nano and manually delete the line, but it's not just one file to process. Thanks, Johannes -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: driver for lexmark x3300 series
On Wednesday 02 August 2006 15:36, Jabka Atu wrote: > David Baron wrote: > > On Wednesday 02 August 2006 11:51, Roger Leigh wrote: > >> Jabka Atu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >>> i own lexmark x3330 printer and cups reconze it as lexmark series > >>> x3300 but i can't find any driver wich will make it work. > >>> > >>> after googling for almost two weeks i know that the driver for x3350 > >>> x3330 x3370 is the same driver. > >>> but i can't find it anywhere. > >> > >> There is no driver listed here: > >> http://www.linuxprinting.org/printer_list.cgi > >> > >> and it is not supported by the Gutenprint "lexmark" family driver. > >> > >> Perhaps the driver is a proprietary one only available from Lexmark? > > > > I have downloaded and built driver from Lexmark. Never bought the printer > > in the end so do not know whether it would have worked but built and > > installed no problem. The target printer also had scanner capabilities > > and no sane support--this is why I passed on it in the end. > > do you steel have the package ? (the source that you compiled?) > could u plz upload it some where ? > i would be happy to test it . This was NOT for an x3350 printer. You must go to their site and find the correct package. May or may not have on there. Lexmark is very adamant in their XP-only support. An alternative might be to see if your printer is repackaged under another brand--there many of these. The other vender may be more cooperative. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: synthetic sound generator with api
On Thu, Aug 03, 2006 at 08:31:26AM -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > I want to generate beeping sounds in a program. > > I now use Nas, but it is a PITA because it either hangs with 2 > soundcards installed or it fails w/o saying why. > > Has anybody got another program that does this? I'm not sure I understand what you want to do, but it sounds like you want to playback digital audio samples. If so, what you probably want is something like libao2 and libao-dev. -- CJ van den Berg mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] xmpp:[EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: auto-download deb files that are already installed
Chuckk Hubbard wrote: On 8/3/06, Wackojacko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I think the problem is that apt on the laptop doesn't know about the new packages because you dont have an up to date package list on you laptop. I know of two ways around this. The first is a hack I use. Copy the package files from /var/lib/apt/list and the contents files from /var/cache/apt/ from the desktop to the laptop and place the deb files in the /var/cache/apt/archives directory on the laptop and apt-get should find them as normal. Also put the entries from the sources.list on the desktop onto the laptop and do 'apt-get update' this will fail because you dont have an internet connection and just use the list you copied over. Thanks, I'm about to give this a shot. If I'm copying the entire contents of /var/cache/apt/archives, though, would it then work to manually dpkg install all the ones I want, and it will find the dependencies? I might just try that, since I have a list of all the packages I want, but not their dependencies... Thanks. Chuckk No dpkg doesn't handle the dependencies like apt-get, you'll have to install the dependencies first individually I think. HTH Wackojacko -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: script languages
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 David Christensen wrote: > Marcelo wrote: >> I wonder what scrip language is better: Perl or Phyton? > > I've been using Perl for 7+ years and have found it to be very > useful. > > > The key concept is Perl's slogan -- "There's more than one way to > do it" -- TIMTOWTDI, pronounced "Tim Toady". Perl is a very > flexible language -- the "duct tape of the Internet". Perl was > developed by a trained linguist (Larry Wall), so Perl writes > easily and allows you to express algorithms clearly and > succinctly. Whether or not the code is easily understood, and by > whom, is up to you. > > > If you know a traditional procedural programming language, such > as BASIC, FORTRAN, C, Pascal, Bourne shell, etc., learning Perl > should be simple enough. If you know an OO language, or OO > concepts, learning the mechanics of OO in Perl will be > straight-forward. The advanced stuff is, well, advanced, and will > require more effort and background. You should be able to > accomplish the goals you outlined with basic to intermediate Perl > skills. My big problem with Perl is "Special Variables". They are a big fat maintainability and debugging trap. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Is "common sense" really valid? For example, it is "common sense" to white-power racists that whites are superior to blacks, and that those with brown skins are mud people. However, that "common sense" is obviously wrong. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFE0gTOS9HxQb37XmcRAtiuAKCJhpks0fAvZlMpY+WO3WZ9fEA3VwCgntpB DjRmFp7NgB2WdcGWYA7+ayI= =yaDi -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exim 4 on Sid, error message
Since the upgrade, I get this in my system emals: exim paniclog /var/log/exim4/paniclog on d_baron has non-zero size, mail system might be broken A check of the paniclog in question shows items of form: 2006-08-03 15:15:17 1G8bRy-0001hg-ES User 0 set for address_file transport is on the fixed_never_users list. I have, more than occasionally, seen such messages in the main exim log before this. Exim does not allow delivery to root. Looking in the exim log itself shows for this message: 2006-08-03 15:15:17 1G8bRy-0001hg-ES original recipients ignored (system filter) 2006-08-03 15:15:17 1G8bRy-0001hg-ES User 0 set for address_file transport is on the fixed_never_users list 2006-08-03 15:15:17 1G8bRy-0001hg-ES == /var/mail/system-notification T=address_file defer (-29): User 0 set for address_file transport is on the fixed_never_users list 2006-08-03 15:15:17 1G8bRy-0001hg-ES ** /var/mail/system-notification : retry timeout exceeded Nothing new or broken here. The only things new I have found are messages "returned", vis-a-vis spamassassin. I run this through procmail so exim should not be addressing this. I did not change the configuration files on the upgrade (chose the "N" option). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
synthetic sound generator with api
Hi, I want to generate beeping sounds in a program. I now use Nas, but it is a PITA because it either hangs with 2 soundcards installed or it fails w/o saying why. Has anybody got another program that does this? Thanks! H -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mobile phone management utility
On Thu, Aug 03, 2006 at 04:32:50PM +0300, Jabka Atu wrote: > deb http://mirror.hamakor.org.il/pub/mirrors/debian/ testing main > contrib non-free > deb http://mirror.hamakor.org.il/pub/mirrors/debian/ unstable main > contrib non-free > > Rodolfo Medina wrote: > >Rodolfo Medina wrote: > > > > > >>>I installed `gumma' and tried it with a Nokia, > >>>but even this one didn't work: > >>> > >>> $ gammu --getmemory DC 1 > >>> Warning: No configuration file found! > >>> Unknown connection type string. Check config file. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> $ gnokii --getphonebook SM 1 > >>> GNOKII Version 0.6.5 > >>> Telephone interface init failed: Command timed out. > >>> Quitting. > >>> > >>>, so there must be something important that I'm missing. > >>>Can anyone point that out? > >>> > > > > > > > >Jabka Atu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > >>Rodolfo you could you use apt-get : > >>apt-get update. > >>apt-get install moto4lin. > >> > >>here is my policy for this package: > >>debian:/home/mha13# apt-cache policy moto4lin > >>moto4lin: > >> Installed: 0.3+cvs20050925-2 > >> Candidate: 0.3+cvs20050925-2 > >> Version table: > >>*** 0.3+cvs20050925-2 0 > >> 500 http://mirror.hamakor.org.il testing/main Packages > >> 500 http://mirror.hamakor.org.il unstable/main Packages > >> 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status > >> > > > > > >Thanks. > >Could you please send out your /etc/apt/sources.list? > >Cheers, > >Rodolfo I have experimented with this, and have been able to use it to nevigate the filesystem and upload and download audio and image files, I still havn't found a way to upload/download the content of the phone book or backup text messages. Anyone have any idea how to do this? My phone is a Motorola C380. Regards, DigbyT -- Digby R. S. Tarvin digbyt(at)digbyt.com http://www.digbyt.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: auto-download deb files that are already installed
On 8/3/06, Wackojacko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I think the problem is that apt on the laptop doesn't know about the new packages because you dont have an up to date package list on you laptop. I know of two ways around this. The first is a hack I use. Copy the package files from /var/lib/apt/list and the contents files from /var/cache/apt/ from the desktop to the laptop and place the deb files in the /var/cache/apt/archives directory on the laptop and apt-get should find them as normal. Also put the entries from the sources.list on the desktop onto the laptop and do 'apt-get update' this will fail because you dont have an internet connection and just use the list you copied over. Thanks, I'm about to give this a shot. If I'm copying the entire contents of /var/cache/apt/archives, though, would it then work to manually dpkg install all the ones I want, and it will find the dependencies? I might just try that, since I have a list of all the packages I want, but not their dependencies... Thanks. Chuckk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mobile phone management utility
deb http://mirror.hamakor.org.il/pub/mirrors/debian/ testing main contrib non-free deb http://mirror.hamakor.org.il/pub/mirrors/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free Rodolfo Medina wrote: Rodolfo Medina wrote: I installed `gumma' and tried it with a Nokia, but even this one didn't work: $ gammu --getmemory DC 1 Warning: No configuration file found! Unknown connection type string. Check config file. $ gnokii --getphonebook SM 1 GNOKII Version 0.6.5 Telephone interface init failed: Command timed out. Quitting. , so there must be something important that I'm missing. Can anyone point that out? Jabka Atu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Rodolfo you could you use apt-get : apt-get update. apt-get install moto4lin. here is my policy for this package: debian:/home/mha13# apt-cache policy moto4lin moto4lin: Installed: 0.3+cvs20050925-2 Candidate: 0.3+cvs20050925-2 Version table: *** 0.3+cvs20050925-2 0 500 http://mirror.hamakor.org.il testing/main Packages 500 http://mirror.hamakor.org.il unstable/main Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status Thanks. Could you please send out your /etc/apt/sources.list? Cheers, Rodolfo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mobile phone management utility
Rodolfo Medina wrote: >> I installed `gumma' and tried it with a Nokia, >> but even this one didn't work: >> >> $ gammu --getmemory DC 1 >> Warning: No configuration file found! >> Unknown connection type string. Check config file. >> >> >> >> $ gnokii --getphonebook SM 1 >> GNOKII Version 0.6.5 >> Telephone interface init failed: Command timed out. >> Quitting. >> >> , so there must be something important that I'm missing. >> Can anyone point that out? Jabka Atu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Rodolfo you could you use apt-get : > apt-get update. > apt-get install moto4lin. > > here is my policy for this package: > debian:/home/mha13# apt-cache policy moto4lin > moto4lin: > Installed: 0.3+cvs20050925-2 > Candidate: 0.3+cvs20050925-2 > Version table: > *** 0.3+cvs20050925-2 0 >500 http://mirror.hamakor.org.il testing/main Packages >500 http://mirror.hamakor.org.il unstable/main Packages >100 /var/lib/dpkg/status Thanks. Could you please send out your /etc/apt/sources.list? Cheers, Rodolfo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: auto-download deb files that are already installed
Chuckk Hubbard wrote: Hi. I'm still working on this un-networked laptop. It's looking pretty good, now I'm ready to put the audio apps on it that I use. I made a list from Synaptic of the packages I have on the desktop, and now I'm hoping to download all the packages and put them on my flash drive. If I put "apt-get -d install pkg", I just get a message that it is already the latest version. Is there a way around this? Maybe with dpkg? I couldn't find any options that accounted for this. The only thing I can think of- that doesn't involve making monstrous lists of dependencies and downloading all the debs individually- would be to uninstall all these packages, then run apt-get -d install, save all the debs to my flash drive, and then reinstall them. Is there some other way to fool apt into thinking the packages aren't there? -Chuckk I think the problem is that apt on the laptop doesn't know about the new packages because you dont have an up to date package list on you laptop. I know of two ways around this. The first is a hack I use. Copy the package files from /var/lib/apt/list and the contents files from /var/cache/apt/ from the desktop to the laptop and place the deb files in the /var/cache/apt/archives directory on the laptop and apt-get should find them as normal. Also put the entries from the sources.list on the desktop onto the laptop and do 'apt-get update' this will fail because you dont have an internet connection and just use the list you copied over. The proper way, which I could never get to work for some reason is to create a local repository on your flash disk using dpkg-scanpackages and put this in your sources.list on the laptop. You may want to google a bit more info on this. HTH Wackojacko -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: auto-download deb files that are already installed
On Thu, Aug 03, 2006 at 08:10:48 -0400, Chuckk Hubbard wrote: > Hi. I'm still working on this un-networked laptop. It's looking > pretty good, now I'm ready to put the audio apps on it that I use. > I made a list from Synaptic of the packages I have on the desktop, and > now I'm hoping to download all the packages and put them on my flash > drive. > If I put "apt-get -d install pkg", I just get a message that it is > already the latest version. Is there a way around this? Maybe with > dpkg? I couldn't find any options that accounted for this. > > The only thing I can think of- that doesn't involve making monstrous > lists of dependencies and downloading all the debs individually- would > be to uninstall all these packages, then run apt-get -d install, save > all the debs to my flash drive, and then reinstall them. > > Is there some other way to fool apt into thinking the packages aren't there? First of all, you might not have to download the packages again as they might still be in the package cache on the desktop computer. Check /var/cache/apt/archives/ (I suspect that you know this; I just wanted to make sure.) If you have to download some packages again you could try to use apt-get with "--reinstall" and "-d". However I have never tried myself if "--reinstall" has the desired effect when used together with "-d". I think the best thing would be to use aptitude: "aptitude download package" will download the .deb for "package" to the current working directory. You can do this as a normal user, so there is no risk of screwing up anything in your installation. If you have a text file "packages.txt" with the names of the packages (one name per line), then you can simply run aptitude download $(cat packages.txt) and they will all be downloaded in one go. Also check out "apt-zip" which is specifically intended for the kind of situation you are in. -- Regards, Florian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Internet connection disappeared after debian-install on laptop
Vegard L. Rekaa wrote:
> I'm installing Debian Etch (with netinstall-cdimage) on a laptop.
> During installation, it configured the DHCP-internet-connection
> automaticly, downloaded all 708 packages and installed them perfectly.
Which means your NIC works with Debian. That's good.
> But, when I reboot the system after intall, the internet connection is
> gone. I checked with another computer, that the line out is OK, but
> still when I plug the (ADSL) modem to the laptop, internett is not
> available.
>
> I'm not experienced with internett-connection setup, so I must ask:
> 1. Wich commands gives output that makes it possible to locate the error?
> 2. Is there a way to repeat the auto-configuration I saw during
> installation after the system is up and running?
> 3. Any other advices or hints are very much welcome!
>
> System specs:
> - The internet connection is broadband, with dynamic IP-adress (ADSL
> through the telephone-line).
> - No password or login nescesarry.
> - Debian Etch (testing) kernel 2.6.15-486
> - Laptop has no internal network-device, but has one available when
> connected to the docking station (wich of course is connected).
Run "lspci" while attached to the docking station. Look for an entry
mentioning your network card. You may need to "modprobe ", where
is the name of the appropriate module for your network card.
You could also run "modconf" (if it's installed) for a more menu-driven
pick-and-choose method of installing the correct module (and this method
has the advantage of adding the module to "/etc/modules" so it'll be
loaded on succeeding reboots - otherwise you'll have to add it manually).
I think that nowadays there's a utility ("discover"?) that should
automagically probe for and insert correct modules on boot-up, but it
may not be working properly for you for whatever reason.
Once the correct module ("driver", in Windows-speak) has been loaded,
you may still need to restart your network, with "/etc/init.d/networking
restart". You may also need to define your network settings in
"/etc/network/interfaces".
I know this is not very specific, but it might point you in the right
direction.
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Re: Please suggest a video capture software
Santanu Chatterjee wrote: kaffeine does the job for me. It is a *media player* and also has the capability to save what you are seeing and hearing. It saves audio from the TV signal directly, not via the sound card, though. I didn't get your point in having to go via the line in of the sound card. Other media players like xine may also work. Johannes, thanks for the reply. I am not familiar with kaffeine, but I think it is based on xine. I shall try both and see if they work. Yes, as far as I know. In my case I never managed to configure xine to work with my usb-dvb-device (something about setting up channels for my location), while kaffeine worked 'out-of-the-box'. I never bothered enough to try to make xine work. Johannes -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
auto-download deb files that are already installed
Hi. I'm still working on this un-networked laptop. It's looking pretty good, now I'm ready to put the audio apps on it that I use. I made a list from Synaptic of the packages I have on the desktop, and now I'm hoping to download all the packages and put them on my flash drive. If I put "apt-get -d install pkg", I just get a message that it is already the latest version. Is there a way around this? Maybe with dpkg? I couldn't find any options that accounted for this. The only thing I can think of- that doesn't involve making monstrous lists of dependencies and downloading all the debs individually- would be to uninstall all these packages, then run apt-get -d install, save all the debs to my flash drive, and then reinstall them. Is there some other way to fool apt into thinking the packages aren't there? -Chuckk -- "Far and away the best prize that life has to offer is the chance to work hard at work worth doing." -Theodore Roosevelt -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Please suggest a video capture software
On 7/29/06, Santanu Chatterjee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 7/22/06, Bruno Buys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > . > All the pieces are there, already: v4l2 supplies the video > stream, codecs are thriving over the internet, the author would only > have to redirect the stream to both X and a file, after encoding. Am I > very wrong about that? I wish I could just 'cat' from /dev/video0 and use 'tee'. Bruno, I was feeling crazy yesterday, and tried the following: -- streamer -o /dev/stdout -t 1:00 -r 25 -f mjpeg -F mono16 \ -d /dev/video0 | tee test.avi | mplayer - -- mplayer showed me the choppiest video I have ever seen and test.avi ended up with 33MB of junk (no video stream detected by mplayer). I had read before but now I know why simple pipes don't work for video streaming :-) Well, currently, I am using tvtime to view TV, and when I need to record something, I run a simple shell script to close tvtime and record the video for the specified amount of time. The script uses streamer to do the capture. I tried your mencoder line, as well as a number of variations of the same (using oss as well as alsa for audio capture), but mencoder/mplayer does not capture audio at all in my case! So I settled on streamer. Although I cannot 'see' what I am capturing, streamer does play the audio, which gives me a hint this is probably what you mentioned in one of your mails. The script I am using is as simple as ( i am writing the script from memory): #!/bin/bash # "vidcap.sh" # usage: vidcap.sh killall -9 tvtime amixer -c 0 sset Line,0 90,90 unmute cap 2>/dev/null streamer -o $1 -t $2 -r 25 -f mjpeg -F mono16 -d /dev/video0 tvtime & - I am getting interested about learning the v4l2 API. So, maybe someday I might just code something At the moment, I am looking at: --- http://www.lavrsen.dk/twiki/bin/view/Motion/VideoForLinuxLoopbackDeviceFeedTestPackage --- ...might turn out to be something I am looking for. Regards, Santanu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Internet connection disappeared after debian-install on laptop
Hi list, I'm installing Debian Etch (with netinstall-cdimage) on a laptop. During installation, it configured the DHCP-internet-connection automaticly, downloaded all 708 packages and installed them perfectly. But, when I reboot the system after intall, the internet connection is gone. I checked with another computer, that the line out is OK, but still when I plug the (ADSL) modem to the laptop, internett is not available. I'm not experienced with internett-connection setup, so I must ask: 1. Wich commands gives output that makes it possible to locate the error? 2. Is there a way to repeat the auto-configuration I saw during installation after the system is up and running? 3. Any other advices or hints are very much welcome!System specs:- The internet connection is broadband, with dynamic IP-adress (ADSL through the telephone-line).- No password or login nescesarry. - Debian Etch (testing) kernel 2.6.15-486- Laptop has no internal network-device, but has one available when connected to the docking station (wich of course is connected).Cheers, Vegard
Re: OT: script languages
On Wed, Aug 02, 2006 at 07:09:30PM -0700, charles norwood wrote:
} On Wed, 2006-08-02 at 08:14 -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
} > On Wed, Aug 02, 2006 at 08:37:13AM -0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
} > > Hello,
} > >
} > > I need to write several scripts for file manipulation, for example:
} > > change name files, read specific columns and write them in a new file,
} > > call fortan programs to read these files, etc. Because I have to learn
} > > how to do this, I wonder what scrip language is better: Perl or Phyton?
} > > or another one? (no flame war please!)
} > >
} > > Thanks in advance
} >
} > My view is that you can likely accomplish what you want with bash
} > scripting and some command line tools. However, if you want to learn
} > another language (which I think is always a good idea), then consider
} > Python.
[...]
} > Additionally, Python
} > makes it difficult to write bad code. That is, you must actively try to
} > write bad code (assuming you already have knowledge of sound software
} > development practices). On the other hand, while Perl is also very
} > powerful, it makes it hard to good code. That is, even if you have
} > knowledge of good software development practices, it is very easy to
} > write unreadable and unmaintainable code in Perl.
[...]
} > Regards,
} > -Roberto
}
} I don't know Python, but I agree with Roberto about Perl. It is easy,
} even encouraged, to write unstructured code in Perl. On the other hand,
} it provides quick, compact solutions to common scripting problems.
I know enough about Perl to hate it, for the same reasons I hate Visual
Basic: the language itself, as well as the culture surrounding it,
encourages godawful code. You can write good code in almost any language
(Intercal may be an exception), and you can write bad code in any language
("You can write Fortran in any language"), but some language encourage
better code than others. Python actually encourages pretty good code, but I
find semantically significant whitespace vaguely offensive.
Now, pure Bourne shell scripting (no, not bash) is a good thing to know
regardless, for much the same reason that vi is good to know: it's
available essentially everywhere. I think it is also sufficient to the
tasks listed above.
For tasks that demand more than that, however, I am fond of Ruby. It
encourages quality of code at nearly the same level as Python while being
remarkably readable even to the uninitiated. There are very few surprises
in the language itself, and there is a rich community of helpful people and
available code libraries. It's gotten a lot of hype recently due to Rails,
but it is an excellent scripting language in its own right.
--Greg
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Re: SW RAID read performance
On Thu, 3 Aug 2006, David Siroky wrote: Hi! I have 2 disks in RAID 1 and I expected reading will be approx. 2x faster then a single disk reading because there can be used the same technique as on RAID 0. I tested it with bonnie++. Can linux SW RAID 1 read "in stripes" to boost the reading performance? Thank you. David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] From my benchmarking on my RAID1 (dual raptor RAID1) it appears it reads from one drive or the other. Justin. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
SW RAID read performance
Hi! I have 2 disks in RAID 1 and I expected reading will be approx. 2x faster then a single disk reading because there can be used the same technique as on RAID 0. I tested it with bonnie++. Can linux SW RAID 1 read "in stripes" to boost the reading performance? Thank you. David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: script languages
I can only share one experience: I made a program in Ruby once, wich had to do some similar acions as you described. (Some people claim this language will even conquer out java!?!) Easy to learn powerfuul enough for your/our our purposes. http://www.ruby-doc.org/docs/ProgrammingRuby/Good luck, no matter what language you choose.Cheers, Vegard On 03/08/06, charles norwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Wed, 2006-08-02 at 08:14 -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:> On Wed, Aug 02, 2006 at 08:37:13AM -0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:> > Hello,> >> > I need to write several scripts for file manipulation, for example: > > change name files, read specific columns and write them in a new file,> > call fortan programs to read these files, etc. Because I have to learn> > how to do this, I wonder what scrip language is better: Perl or Phyton? > > or another one? (no flame war please!)> >> > Thanks in advance> >>> My view is that you can likely accomplish what you want with bash> scripting and some command line tools. However, if you want to learn > another language (which I think is always a good idea), then consider> Python. It is dead easy to learn (Google for "A Byte of Python") and is> very robust. For example, after learning even a little Python, you can > fairly easily read someone else's Python programs. Additionally, Python> makes it difficult to write bad code. That is, you must actively try to> write bad code (assuming you already have knowledge of sound software > development practices). On the other hand, while Perl is also very> powerful, it makes it hard to good code. That is, even if you have> knowledge of good software development practices, it is very easy to > write unreadable and unmaintainable code in Perl. With that said, Perl> is much more widely used currently than Python. There are many more> books available on Perl programming than Python programming and there > are many people out there with Perl experience than with Python> experience.>> Regards,>> -RobertoI don't know Python, but I agree with Roberto about Perl. It is easy, even encouraged, to write unstructured code in Perl. On the other hand,it provides quick, compact solutions to common scripting problems.--To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Where did the ethereal binary go?
Bill Moseley wrote: > $ apt-cache policy ethereal > ethereal: > Installed: 0.99.2-4 > Candidate: 0.99.2-4 > Version table: > *** 0.99.2-4 0 > 500 http://http.us.debian.org unstable/main Packages > 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status > > > http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?searchmode=filelist&word=ethereal&version=unstable&arch=i386 > > > FILE PACKAGE > usr/bin/ethereal net/ethereal > > > $ rm -rf ether > > $ dpkg-deb -x /var/cache/apt/archives/ethereal_0.99.2-4_i386.deb ether > > $ find ether > ether > ether/usr > ether/usr/share > ether/usr/share/doc > ether/usr/share/doc/ethereal > ether/usr/share/doc/ethereal/copyright > ether/usr/share/doc/ethereal/changelog.gz > ether/usr/share/doc/ethereal/changelog.Debian.gz > > Did the binary get moved someplace else? Ethereal's name was recently changed to wireshark. The ethereal package is now just a "transitional package so ethereal users get wireshark on upgrades." You should find that the wireshark package is installed on your system. The binary is now, wireshark. Rick -- Rick's Law - What cannot be imagined will be accomplished by a fool. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: no desktop environment
On 8/3/06, [KS] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The last time I installed, I used the minimal install CD for etch and got the terminal after it was done. To get the desktop environment I had to manually install it. Install gnome and gdm with apt using: apt-get install gdm gnome gnome-desktop-environment and you should be getting a lot of packages that are required by gnome. After that you can handpick more packages depending on your needs. That did it. I had tried a few gnome-things, I didn't know what the name of the main thing was. Thanks! -Chuckk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Wrong CD? testing official snapshot i386 binary-2
Nevermind. I ran apt-cdrom add again and it straightened out. On 8/3/06, Chuckk Hubbard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: "Media change: please insert the disc labeled 'Debian GNU/Linux testing _Etch_ - Official Snapshot i386 Binary-2 (20060731)' in the drive '/cdrom/' and press enter" All the other CDs work fine, and I tried 2 different copies of this ISO. Anyone else have this? I will try redownloading, and if that doesn't work I guess I'll figure out all the packages I need from it and put them on my flash drive... -Chuckk -- "Far and away the best prize that life has to offer is the chance to work hard at work worth doing." -Theodore Roosevelt -- "Far and away the best prize that life has to offer is the chance to work hard at work worth doing." -Theodore Roosevelt -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian on i486
Leonid Grinberg wrote:
Yes, I did mean floppy image. Sorry.
If you could send me one, that would be great!
Floppy image for a 1.44 MB PC style DSHD floppy along with instructions
sent under separate cover.
BTW, I always write protect the floppy before booting. This
causes an error report, because it wants to save its configuration
on the floppy. Anyway, I verified that the image I shipped you
boots my CDROM on my 486 machine whose BIOS does not recognize
the CDROM. Be sure to put the floppy in the BIOS boot seek list, and
put it ahead of the hard drive etc.
If you need the program to create more floppies, I can supply that,
as well.
I forgot to ask: do you know how to use a floppy disc image to
create a floppy? With Linux, use dd (probably need to be root),
and with MSDOS I can provide a program I wrote several years ago
to create it.
NB: I assume no responsibility for what happens if you boot from
a floppy made from that image. I exercised all due diligence in creating
it, and it works on my machine, but if it makes elephants fly out
of your nose, that is your problem. I'm trying to be a good Samaritan,
not take responsibility for your machine.
HTH and all that. Let me know how it came out. Good luck!
Mike
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Wrong CD? testing official snapshot i386 binary-2
"Media change: please insert the disc labeled 'Debian GNU/Linux testing _Etch_ - Official Snapshot i386 Binary-2 (20060731)' in the drive '/cdrom/' and press enter" All the other CDs work fine, and I tried 2 different copies of this ISO. Anyone else have this? I will try redownloading, and if that doesn't work I guess I'll figure out all the packages I need from it and put them on my flash drive... -Chuckk -- "Far and away the best prize that life has to offer is the chance to work hard at work worth doing." -Theodore Roosevelt -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CUPS dependencies
Carl Fink wrote: Again, I can print to the 1012 fine, except that CUPS sometimes dies and refuses to restart, and I have to purge and reinstall it. USB printer support is there and works and it's fine. Just guessing: Did you check the print queue? On our cups installation sometimes people print to printers that are currently switched off. Those jobs have to be manually deleted from the print queue, before the printer will print again. I'm not sure if this is a bug or a 'feature', though. (point your favourite web browser to localhost:631) Johannes -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Where did the ethereal binary go?
On Wed, Aug 02, 2006 at 21:49:04 -0600, Nate Duehr wrote: > >Bill Moseley wrote: >>$ apt-cache policy ethereal >>ethereal: >> Installed: 0.99.2-4 >> Candidate: 0.99.2-4 >> Version table: >> *** 0.99.2-4 0 >>500 http://http.us.debian.org unstable/main Packages >>100 /var/lib/dpkg/status >>http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?searchmode=filelist&word=ethereal&version=unstable&arch=i386 >>FILE PACKAGE >>usr/bin/ethereal net/ethereal >>$ rm -rf ether >>$ dpkg-deb -x /var/cache/apt/archives/ethereal_0.99.2-4_i386.deb ether >>$ find ether >>ether >>ether/usr >>ether/usr/share >>ether/usr/share/doc >>ether/usr/share/doc/ethereal >>ether/usr/share/doc/ethereal/copyright >>ether/usr/share/doc/ethereal/changelog.gz >>ether/usr/share/doc/ethereal/changelog.Debian.gz >>Did the binary get moved someplace else? > >Didn't the ethereal project recently change names? Don't know if it >affected the package names in Debian yet. Just a thought. I saw the name wireshark go by during today's upgrade so it looks like the name change has made it into Sid :-) /M -- Magnus Therning (OpenPGP: 0xAB4DFBA4) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://therning.org/magnus Software is not manufactured, it is something you write and publish. Keep Europe free from software patents, we do not want censorship by patent law on written works. It says "My Computer" because Bill thinks that putting his software on it makes it his. This explains a lot. -- unitron (/.) pgpAhr7UZjtpp.pgp Description: PGP signature
Odp: udev, hal, pmount
Hi, I just created directories "media/usb0" etc and pointed to them in fstab. Works fine. regards Zbigniew Jim McCloskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 2006-08-02 21:14 Do debian-user@lists.debian.org DW Temat udev, hal, pmount Hello. I'm using the combination of hal, udev, and pmount on my laptop so that removable devices (usb sticks, an audio player, a camera) will be automatically detected and mounted when inserted. All is working well, and I'm pleased with the improvement, but there is one way in which I'd like things to work a bit better. At present the devices are mounted in the /media directory, and the name used for the mountpoint is the raw kernel device-name: /media/sda1 /media/sdb1 and so on. That's fine, but I have written udev rules which create symlinks to /dev/iaudio for the audio player, and to /dev/micro for the Sandisk and so on, and it would be nice if those device-names could be used as the mountpoints: /media/iaudio /media/micro and so on. It doesn't seem like it should be so hard to pass that information to the pmount command, but I haven't so far found a way to do it. Does anyone know how to do this? I know that Gnome and KDE both have graphical utilities for handling this kind of thing, but I don't (want to) use either of those (I use fluxbox as my window-manager). Thanks very much for any hints or pointers, Jim PS This is Debian testing with a hand-compiled 2.6.17 kernel. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: no desktop environment
Chuckk Hubbard wrote: > I installed Etch on my laptop, and have cds 1 2 and 3. During the > setup, it said to make sure xserver-xorg was loaded, and it is > installed. Debian boots to tty terminal, though. I type "startx" and > get a crosshatched desktop with a black terminal in the upper left > corner. There is an X pointer, and it does respond to the touchpad, > but I can't affect anything beyond typing in the terminal. > I did a net-install of Etch on my desktop, and it went fine. > Unfortunately, my wireless card for the laptop hasn't shown up yet. > So I'm wondering whether this is Xwindows or Gnome-oriented, and > whether it's from using the CDs instead of net-install, or from being > on the laptop. It's a Micron Transport ZX. > > -Chuckk > The last time I installed, I used the minimal install CD for etch and got the terminal after it was done. To get the desktop environment I had to manually install it. Install gnome and gdm with apt using: apt-get install gdm gnome gnome-desktop-environment and you should be getting a lot of packages that are required by gnome. After that you can handpick more packages depending on your needs. HTH, /ks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
