Re: How many DDs are there?

[Kevin Mark]

On Tue, Oct 17, 2006 at 03:41:13AM +, s. keeling wrote:
> Tshepang Lekhonkhobe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > 
> > I always wondered why I would be motivated to leave Debian :-)
> 
> Over the years, I've thought of lots of them (here's three):
> 
>- Why did /usr/bin/grep disappear ?  Yes, /bin/grep is still there,
>  but why is /usr/bin/grep not there now?  /usr/bin/zsh is still
>  there alongside /bin/zsh.  Curious.  :-|
> 
>- At times, Debian can look like "OS by committee."  Eeww.
> 
Hi S,
I was thinking about last comment and relized that its what I think is a
strength of Debian. What you say? Let me explain. Debian follows it's
Developers reference, policy manual and FHS. These make all DDs follow
rules that are developed by the 'committee' of all DDs. This leads to
the consistency that is found in all that Debian package. There are
many, many examples of other distro or software makers not following
the FHS and thinking that Debian is wrong or odd for following it and
complain when their software breaks on Debian. Now that is 'Eeww'.
cheers,
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Re: How many DDs are there?

[Kevin Mark]

On Thu, Oct 19, 2006 at 06:52:15AM +0200, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote:
> On 10/18/06, s. keeling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >- At times, Debian can look like "OS by committee."  Eeww.
> >>
> >>  I don't properly understand. Which model do you prefer?
> >
> >For instance (in no particular order), Linus Torvalds, Larry Wall,
> >Steve's Jobs and Wozniak, and Richard Stallman.  Outliers who built
> >something because it didn't exist and they wanted it to.
> 
> Which model do you prefer (that won't make you 'Eeww')? I don't
> properly understand.
> 
> What was Steve Jobs' contribution to FLOSS?
Hi Tshepang,
from those names in the list, I think the point was not related to FLOSS
but to people who 'think outside the box' or who create things that
never existed before.
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xorg with higher than 1024 resolution

[Yang]

debian-user@lists.debian.org
I got a debian in my box which start xorg with 1024x768.
I want to change it to 1280x1024,so I add "1280x1024" in
all dispaly. But it don't work.
I found some webpages said that I should make a mode line
 in xorg.conf but so said not ! (  No mode line if my default 
xorg.conf.)
Can some body told me ,what is case this problem and how 
can I serv it?

Yang
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2006-10-19



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Re: Firefox: Help > Report Broken Website

[KS]

amateur wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 13, 2006 at 02:43:33AM -0400, KS wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>  
>> 1. Open Firefox (opening page is about:blank)
>> 2. Help > Report Broken Menu -- disabled
>> 3. go to a web site, i.e. browse atleast one website
>> 4. Help > Report Broken Menu -- enabled
>>
> 
> I think this should be a type of context-dynamic-menu. When you are at
> about:blank, there is no webpages to report as broken, so the menu
> item is disabled. While you are at a normal webpage, it would be
> enabled. You can try this.
> 

Thanks. That seems to be the reason to the above behaviour.
/KDS

PS: replied to sender only :(


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Re: Starting iptables

[cothrige]

* John Hasler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> 
> The name is misleading.  Ipmasq configures both NAT and firewalling.  The
> default configuration is suitable for most, but you can tweak the scripts
> to do whatever you need.
> 
> However, it is not clear that you need a firewall at all.  If you have only
> the one machine, just don't open any ports.

I guess I have never really thought about it that way.  I have just
assumed that I was better off for having something like a firewall in
place on any computer connected to the internet.  And I have opened no
ports intentionally, but now I am wondering just how to find out what
ports are open and how they got that way?  Any recommendations?

Patrick


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Re: How many DDs are there?

[Tshepang Lekhonkhobe]

On 10/18/06, s. keeling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> >- At times, Debian can look like "OS by committee."  Eeww.
>
>  I don't properly understand. Which model do you prefer?

For instance (in no particular order), Linus Torvalds, Larry Wall,
Steve's Jobs and Wozniak, and Richard Stallman.  Outliers who built
something because it didn't exist and they wanted it to.


Which model do you prefer (that won't make you 'Eeww')? I don't
properly understand.

What was Steve Jobs' contribution to FLOSS?


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Re: modem: internal or external?

[M-L]

On Thursday 19 October 2006 12:51, [EMAIL PROTECTED] shared this with us 
all:
>--> I'm building a new computer (Etch is installing over dial up now),
>--> but all my modems are internal ISA.  So unless I want to have to fire up
>--> my 486 just to dial out, I need a new modem.
>-->
>--> The MB has a serial port and I have 3 PCI slots, a PCI-E x 16 and 2
>--> PCI-E x1 free. (Asus M2N-SLI Deluxe AMD AM2, Athlon 3800+, 1GB ram, lvm
>--> on raid1 dual 80 GB Seagate SATA drives).
>-->
>--> What is the current wisdom for a solid reliable modem?  Should I go
>--> external via the serial port or internal?  Is USR still the defacto gold
>--> standard?
>-->
>--> As far as the computer itself goes, the only advantage of an external is
>--> that the bios has a power-on on ring via external modem.  I don't think
>--> I need that.
>-->
>--> Thanks,
>-->
>--> Doug.

I have been using a Maestro Woomera eternal modem for 10 years, and it works a 
treat. Has many features, and because I live in the bush, need it for 
impedance matching on the copper wire line.

Used it on a serial port for nearly 7 years and the last 3 or just a bit 
longer on a USB to RS232 cable.

This modem costs a bit more, but is the best value. If you don't think that 
you are getting off dialup soon and carry it with you for mobile net 
connection. The value is unsurpassed. It allows the chip to be flashed for 
the latest firmware, etc., etc..

HTH
Charlie

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Re: modem: internal or external?

[Russell L. Harris]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> I'm building a new computer (Etch is installing over dial up now),
> but all my modems are internal ISA.  So unless I want to have to fire up
> my 486 just to dial out, I need a new modem.
>
> The MB has a serial port and I have 3 PCI slots, a PCI-E x 16 and 2
> PCI-E x1 free. (Asus M2N-SLI Deluxe AMD AM2, Athlon 3800+, 1GB ram, lvm
> on raid1 dual 80 GB Seagate SATA drives).
>
> What is the current wisdom for a solid reliable modem?  Should I go
> external via the serial port or internal?  Is USR still the defacto gold
> standard?

US Robotics external modems are reliable.  There are "commercial" USR
models, but the USR "Sportster" "Faxmodem V.90 56K" is very common and
has served me well.  With the spread of inexpensive ADSL service
($15/month, compared to $10/month for dial-up), a great many people are
switching from dial-up to DSL.  So you should be able to pick up a used
external USR modem in good condition for about $20 US.

Check on E-Bay, Salvation Army stores, ham radio swap meets, computer
club meetings.  

%%

If I am not mistaken, you can install the SmoothWall firewall/router
software package on your 486, and SmoothWall can utilize your existing
internal modem to connect to your ISP, providing complete control over
the dial-up.  

Your LAN (local area network) connects to the firewall/router machine
via an ethernet cable, and all the logistics of dial-up are hidden from
the LAN.  This is a very clean solution for dial-up.  

Then, if you ever switch to DSL (even DSL with PPPoE, which is a major
pain), there is no need to change anything in the configuration of the
machines within your LAN; simply reconfigure the SmoothWall machine for
ethernet instead of dial-up.

See www.smoothwall.org ; the system is SmoothWall Express 2.0; it is
GPL.  

SmoothWall Express 2.0 can be installed and configured in less than a
half hour, even by a novice; this leaves you with a working, safe
firewall/router installation, with no additional configuration needed.

You could have it running tonight, and avoid the need to purchase
another modem!

RLH


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Re: HELP! No sound in Mozilla w/flashplayer

[Rev. John Missing]

Jason Dunsmore wrote:

On 10/18/06, Rev. John Missing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
When I go to a site with Flash video, the video plays but I get no 
sound.

Can anyone suggest where to start looking for the problem?



when you start mozilla with "aoss mozilla", does it work?


Yeah, it works
Than you! Thank you! Thank you!

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Re: modem: internal or external?

[Ron Johnson]

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On 10/18/06 21:51, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I'm building a new computer (Etch is installing over dial up now),
> but all my modems are internal ISA.  So unless I want to have to fire up
> my 486 just to dial out, I need a new modem.

That's a perfectly valid and useful scheme, mainly since it isolates
your PC from the internet.

And demand dialing means that you don't have to ssh to the firewall
and "manually" run pon/poff.

> The MB has a serial port and I have 3 PCI slots, a PCI-E x 16 and 2
> PCI-E x1 free. (Asus M2N-SLI Deluxe AMD AM2, Athlon 3800+, 1GB ram, lvm
> on raid1 dual 80 GB Seagate SATA drives).
> 
> What is the current wisdom for a solid reliable modem?  Should I go
> external via the serial port or internal?  Is USR still the defacto gold
> standard?

For consumer-grade hardware modems?  Is there anyone else?

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Re: how does ntpdate work ?

[John Hasler]

Dave Dawson writes:
> but if you are using dialup, you could run a crontab every day to execute
> ntpdate instead

Or you could install Chrony, which does what Ntp does and works fine with
dialup.
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Re: modem: internal or external?

[Roberto C. Sanchez]

On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 10:51:25PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I'm building a new computer (Etch is installing over dial up now),
> but all my modems are internal ISA.  So unless I want to have to fire up
> my 486 just to dial out, I need a new modem.
> 
> The MB has a serial port and I have 3 PCI slots, a PCI-E x 16 and 2
> PCI-E x1 free. (Asus M2N-SLI Deluxe AMD AM2, Athlon 3800+, 1GB ram, lvm
> on raid1 dual 80 GB Seagate SATA drives).
> 
> What is the current wisdom for a solid reliable modem?  Should I go
> external via the serial port or internal?  Is USR still the defacto gold
> standard?
> 
> As far as the computer itself goes, the only advantage of an external is
> that the bios has a power-on on ring via external modem.  I don't think
> I need that.

Internal or external, prepare to spend in the neighborhood of US$50 to
US$100 for a modem.  The reason is that you want a hardware modem, not
one of those crappy winmodems.  As long as go with that, you should be
OK.  I seem to remember about two years ago being in a discount
electronics store and picking up a box for a USR modem, about US$65, and
on the list of supported OS's, it included Linux 2.2.14+, or something
like that.  So, they are out there.

Regards,

-Roberto

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Re: HELP! No sound in Mozilla w/flashplayer

[Jason Dunsmore]

On 10/18/06, Rev. John Missing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

When I go to a site with Flash video, the video plays but I get no sound.
Can anyone suggest where to start looking for the problem?



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modem: internal or external?

[dtutty]

I'm building a new computer (Etch is installing over dial up now),
but all my modems are internal ISA.  So unless I want to have to fire up
my 486 just to dial out, I need a new modem.

The MB has a serial port and I have 3 PCI slots, a PCI-E x 16 and 2
PCI-E x1 free. (Asus M2N-SLI Deluxe AMD AM2, Athlon 3800+, 1GB ram, lvm
on raid1 dual 80 GB Seagate SATA drives).

What is the current wisdom for a solid reliable modem?  Should I go
external via the serial port or internal?  Is USR still the defacto gold
standard?

As far as the computer itself goes, the only advantage of an external is
that the bios has a power-on on ring via external modem.  I don't think
I need that.

Thanks,

Doug.


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Re: Wine doesn't create desktop icons

[Kevin Mark]

On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 09:35:29PM -0400, Jos? Alburquerque wrote:
> Would anyone know how I might get wine to create icons on my desktop 
> when I install a new program?  I need to install a browser plugin only 
> available for Windows that will enable me to learn a bit of music 
> theory.  I'd like to be able to install Firefox for Windows and see the 
> icon on my desktop for easy access.  (For those interested, the music 
> theory site is: http://www.dolmetsch.com/theoryintro.htm and in some of 
> its pages, like http://www.dolmetsch.com/musictheory8.htm, it uses a 
> plugin called Sibelius Scorch to allow viewing and listening to musical 
> scores.)
> 
> -- 
> Sincerely
Hi Jose,
I do this:
create a file called 'firefox.exe' in ~/bin

firefox.exe contains:
#---
$HOME/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/Mozilla\ Firefox/firefox.exe $@
#---

chmod +x ~/bin/firefox.exe

then I can run 'firefox.exe' to start it, or 
'firefox.exe http://www.google.com' to open a web site.
cheers,
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Re: HELP! No sound in Mozilla w/flashplayer

[Kent West]

L.V.Gandhi wrote:
>
>
> On 10/19/06, *Rev. John Missing* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > wrote:
>
> When I go to a site with Flash video, the video plays but I get no
> sound.
> Can anyone suggest where to start looking for the problem?
>
> I am running both testing and sarge. In both in firefox also, I don't
> have sound in flash. I am using KDE. Even I tried to untick sound
> system in Kcontrol. Still no sound. Any solutions?

Sometimes my sound in Flash/Firefox dies; a restart of Firefox gets me
going again. This is probably not of any help to y'all though; sorry.

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Re: how does ntpdate work ?

[dtutty]

On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 08:08:02PM +, David Dawson wrote:
 
> but if you are using dialup, you could run a crontab every day to execute
> ntpdate instead
Better still is chrony.  It polls ntp sources when you're online,
skewing the system time instead of jumping it like ntpdate, and
automatically acts as an ntp server for the rest of your network.  Very
easy to configure, basically just add your sources to the conf file.


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Re: how does ntpdate work ?

[David Dawson]

harm wrote:

> in good old sarge there was a script in /etc/init.d/ that would check the
> clock with the ntp server(s) in /etc/default/ntpdate. But how does it
> works in Etch, since the init.d script is gone ? Of course i can execute
> ntpdate ntp.xs4all.nl but if i want it to sync every 24hrs should i put it
> in cron or is there a "hidden" script somewhere to take care of it ?
you'd be better off by installing ntp, which runs ntpd and keeps on top of
the time syncing.

The default configuration should be fine, but you can specify what time
servers to use also instead of the pool.
(do please read the docs!)

but if you are using dialup, you could run a crontab every day to execute
ntpdate instead
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Re: AVG anti-virus

[Thierry Chatelet]

Grok Mogger wrote:

Andrew Sackville-West wrote:

[*snip*]

I looked into this and it turns out that they do have a Linux version 
available.

But apparently only as an rpm.
Is there any way to install an rpm on Debian...?
I guess a good 2nd question to ask would be, if so, does it seem to 
work well?  =P


- GM




Use alien to change it to deb
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Re: firewalls and installation stuff....

[P. Johnson]

Andrew Sackville-West wrote:

> On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 03:37:19PM -0700, P. Johnson wrote:
>> Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
>> 
>> > On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 08:08:33AM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
>> >> 
>> >> And don't take this personally, but as a piece of friendly
>> > [...]
>> > 
>> >> http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>> >> 
>> > 
>> > I hope that didn't come across as harsh as it now looks to me.
>> 
>> It isn't, if you're not so hung up on what the URL looks like and instead
>> click it and look at the content.
> 
> please clarify for me as I'm having trouble parsing this. Are you
> saying it isn't harsh and if one took the time to read the page, they
> would not be offended by having it suggested to them? If so, I agree
> with you :)

Yup, that's exactly what I was getting at.


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Re: 1 CPU or 2 ?

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On 10/18/06 20:42, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 08:37:01PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
>> On 10/18/06 20:04, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
>>> On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 08:02:37PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
[snip]
> Who spends  on server hardware and then holds it together
> with a $50 switch?

?  A cheapskate.

$$$ for a small business or non-profit?  A wise steward.

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Re: 1 CPU or 2 ?

[Roberto C. Sanchez]

On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 08:37:01PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 10/18/06 20:04, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
> > On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 08:02:37PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> >> There's Xen.  And VMware.
> >>
> >> VMware has been around for years, and is a known, rock-solid
> >> hypervisor.
> >>
> > Actually, I believe that Xen is a virtualizer.  Or do they have
> > different approaches for their workstation and server products?
> 
> "Generic" Xen is a paravirtualizer.
> 
> Xen 3.0.2+ on modern Intel and AMD CPUs allows for hardware
> virtualization.  The technology code names are Vanderpool and  Pacifica.
> 
Oops.  I mean to say: "I believe that *VMWare* is a virtualizer."

Sorry.

> > Good point.  Not just that, though, but reliable bandwidth.  No sense
> > having lots of bandwidth if it is unreliable.
> 
> 
> 
> Who makes unreliable server-class hardware anymore?
> 
Who spends  on server hardware and then holds it together with a $50
switch?

Regards,

-Roberto

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Re: 1 CPU or 2 ?

[Ron Johnson]

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On 10/18/06 20:04, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 08:02:37PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
>> There's Xen.  And VMware.
>>
>> VMware has been around for years, and is a known, rock-solid
>> hypervisor.
>>
> Actually, I believe that Xen is a virtualizer.  Or do they have
> different approaches for their workstation and server products?

"Generic" Xen is a paravirtualizer.

Xen 3.0.2+ on modern Intel and AMD CPUs allows for hardware
virtualization.  The technology code names are Vanderpool and  Pacifica.

>>> Either way, the more cores the better when the issue is
>>> throughput like a server rather than computation like a gaming
>>> machine.
>> And bandwidth.  No use having lots of cores if they are starved for
>> data.
>>
> Good point.  Not just that, though, but reliable bandwidth.  No sense
> having lots of bandwidth if it is unreliable.



Who makes unreliable server-class hardware anymore?

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Wine doesn't create desktop icons

[José Alburquerque]

Would anyone know how I might get wine to create icons on my desktop 
when I install a new program?  I need to install a browser plugin only 
available for Windows that will enable me to learn a bit of music 
theory.  I'd like to be able to install Firefox for Windows and see the 
icon on my desktop for easy access.  (For those interested, the music 
theory site is: http://www.dolmetsch.com/theoryintro.htm and in some of 
its pages, like http://www.dolmetsch.com/musictheory8.htm, it uses a 
plugin called Sibelius Scorch to allow viewing and listening to musical 
scores.)


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Re: 1 CPU or 2 ?

[Roberto C. Sanchez]

On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 08:02:37PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> 
> There's Xen.  And VMware.
> 
> VMware has been around for years, and is a known, rock-solid
> hypervisor.
> 
Actually, I believe that Xen is a virtualizer.  Or do they have
different approaches for their workstation and server products?

> > Either way, the more cores the better when the issue is
> > throughput like a server rather than computation like a gaming
> > machine.
> 
> And bandwidth.  No use having lots of cores if they are starved for
> data.
> 
Good point.  Not just that, though, but reliable bandwidth.  No sense
having lots of bandwidth if it is unreliable.

Regards,

-Roberto

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[Ron Johnson]

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> On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 01:09:35PM -0500, Jacob S wrote:
>> On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 19:15:53 -0700 "michael"
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 20:04:53 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote
 On 10/14/06 19:53, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 14, 2006 at 05:33:29PM -0700, michael wrote:
[snip]
> Or, is there a secure way to virtualize the server like an LPAR
> for debian, in which case the more cores the better,

There's Xen.  And VMware.

VMware has been around for years, and is a known, rock-solid
hypervisor.

> Either way, the more cores the better when the issue is
> throughput like a server rather than computation like a gaming
> machine.

And bandwidth.  No use having lots of cores if they are starved for
data.

> Sometimes I wish someone would make a case that would take two
> MBs :-)


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Re: firewalls and installation stuff....

[Andrew Sackville-West]

On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 03:37:19PM -0700, P. Johnson wrote:
> Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 08:08:33AM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> >> 
> >> And don't take this personally, but as a piece of friendly
> > [...]
> > 
> >> http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
> >> 
> > 
> > I hope that didn't come across as harsh as it now looks to me.
> 
> It isn't, if you're not so hung up on what the URL looks like and instead
> click it and look at the content.

please clarify for me as I'm having trouble parsing this. Are you
saying it isn't harsh and if one took the time to read the page, they
would not be offended by having it suggested to them? If so, I agree
with you :)

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Re: HELP! No sound in Mozilla w/flashplayer

[L . V . Gandhi]

On 10/19/06, Rev. John Missing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
When I go to a site with Flash video, the video plays but I get no sound.Can anyone suggest where to start looking for the problem?I am running both testing and sarge. In both in firefox also, I don't
have sound in flash. I am using KDE. Even I tried to untick sound
system in Kcontrol. Still no sound. Any solutions?
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Re: APC UPS under Linux?

[Stephen Cormier]

On Wednesday 18 October 2006 20:00, Colin wrote:
> Stephen Cormier wrote:
> > On Wednesday 18 October 2006 12:45, Yura wrote:
> >
> > Make sure that you have these set they work for me.
> > #UPSTYPE apcsmart
> > #DEVICE /dev/ttyS0
> > UPSTYPE usb
> > DEVICE /dev/usb/hid/hiddev[0-9]
>
> You don't have to specify the DEVICE setting anymore (at least in the
> etch and sid versions of apcupsd)

Apparently your correct just tried it without the device and it still works, 
thanks.

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[Colin]

Stephen Cormier wrote:
> On Wednesday 18 October 2006 12:45, Yura wrote:
> 
> Make sure that you have these set they work for me.
> #UPSTYPE apcsmart
> #DEVICE /dev/ttyS0
> UPSTYPE usb
> DEVICE /dev/usb/hid/hiddev[0-9]

You don't have to specify the DEVICE setting anymore (at least in the
etch and sid versions of apcupsd)


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boot sequence and alsa

[Denis Sheynihovich]

Hi all, 

I am having a problem with alsa modules during boot. The problem is
the following: after boot sound card does not work, when I do
/etc/init.d/alsa force-reload it works OK. I checked that after boot
all the required modules are loaded (via lsmod), so it not the
problem of loading the right modules. In order to make that card
working I had to add manually a parameter for the sound card module
(I use snd-hda-intel), and I added it into /etc/modprobe.d/sound. I
guess the problem is that at boot the modules are started without
that parameter.

So I decided to track down the problem and see how exactly the alsa
modules are started at boot. Now, here is a mess (at least for me).
There is no any one document that describes how the modules are
configured and started. For example, I have /etc/modutils/*,
/etc/modules.conf and /etc/modprobe.d/* (it is all installed
automatically by Etch in testing). How this all works? man
modules.conf tells me that I shouldn't edit it since it is generated
by update-modules, man update-modules tells me that it is
deprectated. So what files are really used /etc/modules.conf or
/etc/modprobe.d/*? If i edit /etc/modprobe.d/sound, how do I make
sure that this file is read during boot? 

Now, let's assume this mess somehow works and let's find who calls
modprobe for snd-hda-intel. The main file that loads alsa dirver is
/etc/init.d/alsa. I don't have symlink to this script from /etc/rcS
nor from /etc/rc2.d. OK, probably the modprobe is called directly by
a hardware detector, I have "discovery" installed automatically. I
unload all sound modules and run "/etc/init.d/discover start" and I
find that it does *not* load any sound modules. I also checked that
file /etc/modules does not contain any sound modules either. Now I am
stuck. Which other sript can load the sound modules? How it might be
that a module parameter in /etc/modprobe.d/sound is not taken into
account during boot?

I would be greatful for any hint on the last question, in particular.


Denis


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Re: Starting iptables

[dtutty]

On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 01:32:52PM -0500, cothrige wrote:
> * [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > 
 
> Interesting what you say about ipmasq.  How automatic is it?  I would
> have assumed that it had more to do with making your machine a
> gateway, which mine isn't, than firewalling itself.  I am assuming
> that it does both?  
Yes.
> 
> > The documentation is vast; its like a book.  You wouldn't buy a big
> > book on network security and open it to the middle and expect to
> > know what was going on.  Start at the beginning and just read it
> > through.  Trust your brain to synthesize and develop a plan for your
> > situation.
> 
> I know what you mean there.  I think it turned out to be something
> like 550 pages, give or take.  And I actually was reading it from the
> beginning, but you can imagine what a task that is just to set up a
> couple of rules.  And I was beginning to think that it was not set up
> to handle a situation as simple as mine.  Of course, I was wrong.
> 
> But, this all begs the question of what Shorewall is really trying to
> do.  I would think that the point of these firewall tools would be to
> get around the rather difficult process of figuring out iptables.
> However, shorewall seems to simply replace the very archaic and tricky
> iptables commands and structure with its own equally difficult
> version.  Why is that exactly?  Couldn't somebody with that kind of
> need simply take the same time and learn the very thing that Shorewall
> is manipulating, i.e. iptables?
> 
If you look at the number of lines of rules you make, and compare it to
the number of lines (pages!) of iptables rules it makes, you see that
shorewall is easier.  Also the syntax is easier.  Changes are far
easier.  Besides, the shorewall book is the best book I've found for
understanding iptables.  

My only beef with shorewall is the length of time it took my poor 486 to
process everything: 2 minutes.

I use ipmasq when I'm building the smallest system I can, only accessing
the internet for email, web browsing, and chrony.  For a full-size
system, I use shorewall.

Doug.



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Re: 1 CPU or 2 ?

[dtutty]

On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 01:09:35PM -0500, Jacob S wrote:
> On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 19:15:53 -0700
> "michael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 20:04:53 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote
> > > On 10/14/06 19:53, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
> > > > On Sat, Oct 14, 2006 at 05:33:29PM -0700, michael wrote:
> > > >> Hello,
> > > >> Looking for suggestions on going with 1 dual core CPU
> > > >> or 2 dual core CPU. Main server would be an NFS file server.
> > > >> Probably using SW raid as well.
> > > >> Money is a conern.
> > > >> Is it better to go with a single, yet faster CPU?,
> > > >> or go with a slower CPU, yet have 2 of them?
> > > >>
> > > > Go with whatever you can get cheeper.  If it is primarily an NFS
> > > > server, any CPU over 1 GHz will do.  Even a single cpu with a
> > > > single core.  The only concern is if you are using a 10 Gbps
> > > > network card.  If money is a concern, you are not going to be
> > > > using a 10 Gbps network card.
> > > 
> > > Other questions to ask:
> > > - - How many users will it be serving?
> > > - - How "busy" will it be?  Even if you are only serving one system,
> > >   will it be a streaming uncompressed High Def video server, or an
> > >   MPEG-2 and MP3 server for 1 person.?
> > 
> > Probably about 100-150 workstations. 
> > This server will also run proxy, email and web, but my main concern
> > was NFS as I'm kinda new to it.
> 
> Sorry to join this thread a little late, but do you really need all of
> those services on one server? I consider it a pretty big security risk
> to have private data files on a public e-mail/web server. If it were up
> to me, I would be looking into a way to get 2 cheap servers instead of
> 1 expensive server.
> 
> HTH,
> Jacob

Or, is there a secure way to virtualize the server like an LPAR for
debian, in which case the more cores the better,

Either way, the more cores the better when the issue is throughput like
a server rather than computation like a gaming machine.

Sometimes I wish someone would make a case that would take two MBs :-)

Doug.


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Re: downloading the files using jigdo

[Russell L. Harris]

John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Mikef writes:
>> If you could download just one CD that you can use together with an
>> internet install I think this would be the way to go if you have a
>> broadband link.
>
> The netinst CD is exactly that.

If you have ANY Debian CD, you don't need to download the netinst CD
(unless you wish to try out the latest version of the installer).

Note that a network installation can be initiated using the first CD of
the 15-CD set.  All that is necessary is to specify the package source
to be HTTP rather than CD-ROM; this is done in the normal course of
events, after the installation CD has booted.

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HELP! No sound in Mozilla w/flashplayer

[Rev. John Missing]

When I go to a site with Flash video, the video plays but I get no sound.
Can anyone suggest where to start looking for the problem?

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said nothing. Then they came for the Social Democrats, but I was not a
Social Democrat, so I did nothing. Then came the trade unionists, but I
was not a trade unionist. And then they came for the Jews, but I was not
a Jew, so I did little. Then when they came for me, there was no one
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Re: firewalls and installation stuff....

[Russell L. Harris]

"Michael Fothergill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Would that have been enough to include and fire up some kind of
> firewall or do I need to install that separately?
>
> If so what firewall would you recommend and what aptitude command will
> fetch me it?
>
> How do I know that the firewall is on and working?

If you have an older machine which has been retired:

-> 200 MHz Pentium is ample
-> 64 Mbytes RAM
-> CD-ROM drive
-> 5 or 10 Gbyte hard drive is ample
-> a pair of ethernet cards

you can turn it into a splendid firewall/router with:

-> DHCP server
-> time server
-> PPPoE manager
-> dial-up manager
-> VPN manager
-> etc.

Best of all, you can have it running and configured -- complete -- in
less than a half-hour.

Download and burn to CD an ISO image for SmoothWall Express 2.0 from

www.smoothwall.org

SmoothWall Express 2.0 is GPL software; it is mature, stable, and has a
excellent reputation.  SmoothWall is one of the few (if not the only)
firewall/router packages which comes pre-configured, and thus is usable
by individuals who do not have the time or interest to become
knowledgeable regarding the ins and outs of firewall design and
configuration.

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Re: AVG anti-virus

[P. Johnson]

Grok Mogger wrote:

> Is there any way to install an rpm on Debian...?

There's rpm, but alien might be better (since it'll try to convert it to
a .deb)



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Re: APC UPS under Linux?

[P. Johnson]

Yura wrote:

> Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
>> On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 06:09:15PM +0300, Yura wrote:
>>   
  
   
>>> Thank you. I'll try to set it up.If you have some good tutorial, etc.
>>> please send.
>>>
>>> 
>>
>> I'm afraid I don't.  Though, the documentation is fine.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> -Roberto
>>
>>   
> One more question: Does it work with USB data cable?

That's what I have, I'm running sid and hald found it just fine and
made /dev/ entries automagically for me.  Just make sure apcupsd knows the
device and let it fly.


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Re: firewalls and installation stuff....

[P. Johnson]

Michael Fothergill wrote:

> I also have a broadband connection and the 15 CD set of official Sarge
> stuff.

Overkill.  If you have a broadband connection, for the sake of your time
(wasted by downloading more data than you have to and burning CDs you won't
need) the Debian mirrors (bandwidth) and the environment (wasted CDs), you
probably should have read more closely on the Debian CD image download site
at http://www.debian.org/CD/ .  The very first link on that page is a 120
MB minimal bootable CD, and says "Are you sure you really need the full
CDs? You can just get the basic installation system - it will download the
rest of the distribution if and when needed during the installation."

> I installed the base system plus XWindows plus Gnome etc.

Minor nitpick:  It's the X Window System or X, but not XWindows.  That
implies it has anything to do with Windows, the desktop environment trying
to be an operating system.

> Would that have been enough to include and fire up some kind of firewall
> or do I need to install that separately?

Not needed.  People use Debian to create firewalls.  Just don't install any
software that you don't need and you'll be OK.  aptitude visualizes this
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Re: APC UPS under Linux?

[P. Johnson]

Yura wrote:

> What is the best program that control/monitor the status of an APC UPS
> under Linux?

I use apcupsd and it works pretty well for me.  Pretty much dropped right
in.  Config files have great comments and it just works.


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Re: firewalls and installation stuff....

[P. Johnson]

Andrew Sackville-West wrote:

> On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 08:08:33AM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
>> 
>> And don't take this personally, but as a piece of friendly
> [...]
> 
>> http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>> 
> 
> I hope that didn't come across as harsh as it now looks to me.

It isn't, if you're not so hung up on what the URL looks like and instead
click it and look at the content.


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Re: AVG anti-virus

[P. Johnson]

steef wrote:

> thank you all for your comments.  i have decided to install AVG because
> i function here as mailserver for two maillistst, from - mostly-
> windows_machines via my debian-computer to other (mostly)
> windows_machines; with the exception of some french farmers who
> installed linux programs because they do not like bill gates and the
> macdonalds in their neighbourhood.

I have several mailing lists on my server, all with many Windows users.  I
use ClamAV, and it has yet to let a virus hit a mailing list here...
ClamAV's probably the way to go in the long run if you want to be able to
maintain it easily over the long term.


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Re: downloading the files using jigdo

[John Hasler]

Mikef writes:
> If you could download just one CD that you can use together with an
> internet install I think this would be the way to go if you have a
> broadband link.

The netinst CD is exactly that.
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Re: how does ntpdate work ?

[harm]

i noticed that already, its not a daemon. Ive installed the ntp package and that IS a daemon. No more time worries for me anymore :)On 10/18/06, Ron Johnson
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Hash: SHA1On 10/18/06 14:36, harm wrote:> i think i should read those /usr/share/doc files more often :p>> however, ntpdate is only started once (on bootup) and it never needs to> resync afterwords ? since its not in ps aux...
Of course it's not listed in "ps aux" because it's not a continuous runner like ntp.I put this in my root crontab:#!/bin/sh3 */3 * * * /etc/init.d/ntpdate start && /sbin/hwclock --systohc
Hey, that's odd.  The file is gone, but the cron job still runs.That's spooky.> On 10/18/06, Andrew Perrin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 According to /usr/share/doc/ntpdate/changlog.Debian.gz:* npdate is no longer started from an init script but instead by ifup>>  (closes: #56499, #245338, #312576)
>>* Run ntpdate from ifup in the background (closes: #321759, #375280,>>  #382543) The script is now in /etc/network/if-up.d . Cheers,
>> Andy>> On Wed, 18 Oct 2006, harm wrote: > in good old sarge there was a script in /etc/init.d/ that would check>> the>> > clock with the ntp server(s) in /etc/default/ntpdate. But how does it
>> works>> > in Etch, since the init.d script is gone ? Of course i can execute>> ntpdate>> > ntp.xs4all.nl but if i want it to sync every 24hrs should i put it in
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Re: how does ntpdate work ?

[Ron Johnson]

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On 10/18/06 14:36, harm wrote:
> i think i should read those /usr/share/doc files more often :p
> 
> however, ntpdate is only started once (on bootup) and it never needs to
> resync afterwords ? since its not in ps aux...

Of course it's not listed in "ps aux" because it's not a continuous
 runner like ntp.

I put this in my root crontab:

#!/bin/sh
3 */3 * * * /etc/init.d/ntpdate start && /sbin/hwclock --systohc

Hey, that's odd.  The file is gone, but the cron job still runs.

That's spooky.

> On 10/18/06, Andrew Perrin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> According to /usr/share/doc/ntpdate/changlog.Debian.gz:
>>
>>* npdate is no longer started from an init script but instead by ifup
>>  (closes: #56499, #245338, #312576)
>>* Run ntpdate from ifup in the background (closes: #321759, #375280,
>>  #382543)
>>
>>
>>
>> The script is now in /etc/network/if-up.d .
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Andy
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 18 Oct 2006, harm wrote:
>>
>> > in good old sarge there was a script in /etc/init.d/ that would check
>> the
>> > clock with the ntp server(s) in /etc/default/ntpdate. But how does it
>> works
>> > in Etch, since the init.d script is gone ? Of course i can execute
>> ntpdate
>> > ntp.xs4all.nl but if i want it to sync every 24hrs should i put it in
>> cron
>> > or is there a "hidden" script somewhere to take care of it ?


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are mud people.
However, that "common sense" is obviously wrong.
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Re: APC UPS under Linux?

[Ron Johnson]

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On 10/18/06 10:45, Yura wrote:
> Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
>> On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 06:09:15PM +0300, Yura wrote:
>>  
  
   
>>> Thank you. I'll try to set it up.If you have some good tutorial, etc.
>>> please send.
>>>
>>> 
>>
>> I'm afraid I don't.  Though, the documentation is fine.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> -Roberto
>>
>>   
> One more question: Does it work with USB data cable?

Yes.  I use apcupsd with a BackUPS XS1500 and it works like a champ.

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Re: Starting iptables

[cothrige]

* H.S. ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
[snip]
> 
> The line beginning with "pre-up" means to execute the following command 
> before the current interface (in whose stanza the line is) is brought up.
> 

Very important to know.  Many thanks.

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Re: LTO-2 Tape Drive Recommendations

[Steve Witt]

On Wed, 18 Oct 2006, Tim Boring wrote:


I'm looking to get an LTO-2 tape drive/autoloader for doing server
backups.  I've tried a Dell PV-122 autoloader (8 cartridges) but had
issues with it, so I'm thinking about trying something different.
(Tried calling Dell tech support but they weren't very helpful; they
seemed to only "understand" RedHat Linux.)  Anyone have any
recommendations of a drive or autoloader that they have had good
experiences with on Debian Sarge?



I've used a couple of tape libraries (autoloaders) from 'adic' that work 
very well. Ours have a DLT tape drive and interface through SCSI to the 
computer (they are getting a little old now). I'm using 'bacula' as the 
backup software. We had used 'amanda' for years and years, but bacula 
works far better IMHO. I had to do a little scripting to get bacula to 
control the autoloader, but this is described pretty well in the bacula 
docs. I think when you decide on a backup application, its documentation 
should give an idea as to what tape devices it supports.





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Re: Kernel panic on Dell with Debian

[Luiz Felipe]

Yes, I was on this way: initrd.

But when compiled the new kernel with --initrd parameter, it seems that 
the initrd isn't in the package.
Also, I ran the mkinitrd -o output, and the command doesn't create the 
output file and doesn't report me any mistakes.


So, any suggestions about how to create this initrd?

Very thanks for your help.

Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote:

On 18.10.06 15:51, Luiz Felipe wrote:
  
I've tried to install Debian Sarge in a Dell PowerEdge 1425. The CD 
doesn't recognize the SCSI adapter (AIC), but I've found one ISO which 
contains the driver needed 
(http://wiki.osuosl.org/display/LNX/Debian+on+Dell+Servers).


After successfully installed, the system doesn't have support to 
iptables. So, recompiled the kernel and was expecting to work.


But the system boots no longer. It gave me a  kernel panic message, 
unable to mount root partition (/dev/sda1) or 08:00. This partition, 
/dev/sda1, is correct.



did you build/install/use initrd? I guess you're missing your SCSI card
driver. It may be located on initrd.

do you have the whole error message?

  
I followed the instructions in the site I've mentioned above to 
recompile the kernel, but this problem drove me crazy. I copied the 
config file available on the site and one at /boot folder to 
/usr/src/KERNEL_VERSION/.config, changed nothing, compiled and the 
system still doesn't working.



  



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ipsets for shorewall on a Sarge system

[Pollywog]

Does anyone know whether ipsets will work on Sarge systems and which kernel I 
should install on a Sarge system to get it to work?  I have found information 
that kernel 2.6.16 is required for ipsets functionality but also read that it 
can work on 2.6.11 kernels.  Is patch-o-matic available for Debian systems?
I don't see it anywhere so I believe it is not available as a Debian package.
 

thanks


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Re: Starting iptables

[John Hasler]

cothrige writes:
> Interesting what you say about ipmasq.  How automatic is it?  I would
> have assumed that it had more to do with making your machine a gateway,
> which mine isn't, than firewalling itself.  I am assuming that it does
> both?

The name is misleading.  Ipmasq configures both NAT and firewalling.  The
default configuration is suitable for most, but you can tweak the scripts
to do whatever you need.

However, it is not clear that you need a firewall at all.  If you have only
the one machine, just don't open any ports.
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Re: Frequent kernel crashes on old non-ACPI hardware with 2.6.16+

[Adam C Powell IV]

Thanks for the help.

I haven't posted since Thursday because, well, it hasn't crashed!  After
five crashes by noon Wednesday, I was out most of Thursday, treated it
with kid gloves Friday and Monday (minimal interaction, did 99% of my
work on the laptop), ramped up a bit yesterday, and today have been
using it nonstop.

I'm using testing, but can't think of anything which has changed since
last Wednesday which would make such a difference...

> On Thu, Oct 12, 2006 at 10:11:14PM -0400, Adam C Powell IV wrote: 
>
> > 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX Host 
> > bridge (rev 03)
> > 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX AGP 
> > bridge (rev 03)
> > 00:07.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ISA (rev 02)
> > 00:07.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 IDE (rev 01)
> > 00:07.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 USB (rev 01)
> > 00:07.3 Bridge: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ACPI (rev 02)
> > 00:09.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82557/8/9 [Ethernet Pro 100] 
> > (rev 05)
> > 00:0b.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. 
> > RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)
> > 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: 3Dfx Interactive, Inc. Voodoo 3 (rev 01)
>
> A friend of mine had lots of trouble with a similar videocard. Do you have
> a spare to exchange?

Thanks, if it happens again I'll try replacing with another Voodoo3.

But it seems odd that this would fix it, esp as the problem happens even
in console mode, and does not happen under 2.6.8...

> > Enabling APIC mode:  Flat.  Using 1 I/O APICs
>
> You could try passing 'noapic' and 'nolapic' to the kernel

Okay, tried noapic, but that didn't change any of the APIC messages in
dmesg.  I have it set to nolapic for when (if?) it next fails.  Then
again, it hasn't crashed since trying it. :-)

Maybe I should try removing it, and see if I get crashing again...  If I
learn more I'll post again.

> > Kernel command line: auto BOOT_IMAGE=2.6.18-1-686 ro root=301 acpi=off 
> > pci=norouteirq
> > PCI: Unknown option `norouteirq'
>
> 'pci=norouteirq' seems to be wrong.

Right, removed it.  Thanks.

Thanks so much.  This is a great machine, still quite snappy with GNOME,
OOo etc., and it would have been a shame to have to let it go.

Regards,
-Adam
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Re: how to start the sound system

[Florian Kulzer]

On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 21:54:07 +0200, Kay Smarczewski wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 09:23:31PM +0200, Kay Smarczewski wrote:
> > On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 09:17:21PM +0200, Kay Smarczewski wrote:
> > > On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 05:02:23PM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 14:20:35 +0200, Kay Smarczewski wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > [ ATI SB450 HDA sound card with snd_hda_intel module ]
> > > > 
> > > > > > Now i've found out another even more curious thing: everytime i 
> > > > > > purge
> > > > > > alsa-base, alsa-utils and linux-sound-base the sound works. but 
> > > > > > after
> > > > > > rebooting i get only the errors and no sound :(
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > on booting i get:
> > > > > > hda_codec: invalid dep_range_va l
> > > > > 
> > > > > oh, i forgot: playing .wav-files with aplay works without any errors.
> > > > > 
> > > > > can it be the codec or something like that?
> > > > 
> > > > You can see the codecs listed in the /proc/asound/card0/ directory.
> > > > 
> > > > You need the Realtek ALC883 codec according to this web page
> > > > http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_Acer_Aspire_5102WLMi
> > > > 
> > > > I noticed that my kernel sources have a realtek-specific patch in the
> > > > hda directory: sound/pci/hda/patch_realtek.c
> > > > Maybe this patch is missing for your kernel.
> > > 
> > > the codec /proc/asound/card0/codec#0 is the same as listed on the page
> > > and i have the kernel 2.6.19rc2. that should contain alsa 1.0.13rc3 as
> > > listed on the page.
> > > if have searched for the patch and i have it, too. :(
> > > 
> > > so i am not very hopeful. but of course i will try to compile the kernel
> > > for myself.
> > 
> > i mean compiling the alsa-module, of course ;)
> 
> ok, i recompiled the kernel with the help of the alsa-page and your
> link. and nothing changed:
> after the first reboot everything works fine.
> after the second time, only aplay works.
> 
> i get many of these errors:
> hda_codec: invalid dep_range_val 0:7fff
> hda_codec: num_steps = 0 for NID=0xd

I am pretty much out of ideas now. You could do some general poking
around to compare the situation between the first, successful boot and
the second one. For example:

cat /proc/modules | cut -f1 -d " " | sort > modules1.txt

Then after the reboot save the output of the same command as
"modules2.txt" and use diff to compare the two lists of modules.

If you use an initrd you could try to build the sound modules into it.

If that all fails then you need to attract the attention of someone who,
contrary to me, actually has the same soundcard. I would start a new
thread and make sure that "ATI SB450 hda_codec" is prominently visible
in the subject line. (Many people tend to ignore threads which have such
an unspecific subject as the present one.)

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RE: downloading the files using jigdo

[Michael Fothergill]

Hello Martin,

I am also new to Debian having only just installed it.  But maybe I can help 
a little bit and others can correct any inaccuracies.


I have broadband that is fast enough to have allowed me to download all 15 
CDROM images from a mirror site and burn them to CDs.  If you do this you 
need to load the installer and use it to check the integrity of the CDs i.e. 
that there are no errors on them.  If there are and you try to load the OS 
you will go nuts trying to figure out what is wrong.  I have even been sold 
CDs with Fedora Core 5 on them by an on line retailer that had errors on 
them.  I detected this and I ended up burning replacements myself.


In general people think this 15CD business is a bit silly. They think that 
installing the operating over the internet s a better idea.


If you have a DVD player and you downloaded the DVDs you would only end up 
with 2 images.  This is much more convenient that 15 CDs and it would speed 
up loading the OS using them.


When I downloaded the CDs I used Bittorrent, not Jigdo. The idea of 
bittorrent is that if a lot of people are downloading the same files then it 
uploadd them at the same time from the same people and uses their extra 
individual bandwidth to speed up everyone's downloading simultaneously (or 
something like that).


The problem was that at the site I used to download the CD images hardly 
anyone was downloading them so it didn't speed up the download much.  So I 
ended up using wget which is like an http download but smarter not faster.


I could download at about 100 Kb/sec.  People have downloaded Ubuntu at 3 
Mb/sec using bittorrent because so many people are downloading it 
simultaneously.


I did download jigdo on to Fedora that I use and tried to install it but it 
failed to due some dependency problems.  I would say that jigdo is probably 
not going to help you much because it uses wget and so since I imagine you 
don't have any old Debian CDs around you will have to download the images in 
entirety with it and it won't go any faster than it did for me.


It took me 3 days to download the CD images burn them and check their 
integrity.


If you could download just one CD that you can use together with an internet 
install I think this would be the way to go if you have a broadband link.  
The other thing to do is to buy the CDs from a vendor.


If you have not used Linux before then you will need to put the CD in the 
driver and boot upn the machine with it in and then follow the installation 
instructions as they come.  If your machine won't boot from the CDROM then 
you can get a boot image, a root image, and a CDROM driver image and netboot 
  image that you can then write to four floppy disks and use them to fire 
up the PC and then get the CDROM going to continue the install.


What is different about this OS from other Linux distributions I have used 
is that if you install e.g. the desktop environment at least in my case it 
didn't put a window manager in.  It just stuck XWindows in there.


So at least in my case you couldn't get the usual GUI type window 
environment working until after you have installed the window manger e.g. 
Gnome.


Hope this helps

Mikef










From: Martin Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: downloading the files using jigdo
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 17:27:55 +0100

Hi,

i am currently using Windows XP home and wanted to use Debian to see what 
it is like, now i have got Jigdo, and i am not sure what files i have to 
download using and how to actully use Jigdo.


I have read the FAQs and the help documnet on the website but i am still 
confused on what i download and how to use Jigdo.


Could you please help me.

Thanks
Martin


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Re: recognition of dkpg file by OS

[David Jardine]

On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 05:27:41PM +, Michael Fothergill wrote:
> 
> I tried to run dkpg.
> 

It's dpkg, not dkpg

> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/etc$ dkpg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86
> bash: dkpg-reconfigure: command not found
> 
> As you see it didn't work.  So I tried using whereis
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/etc$ whereis dkpg
> dkpg:
> 
> Neither did that.
> 
> I thought, well it must be somewhere so I looked in /etc and typed
> 
> ls -l
> 
> It listed a whole of files including apt and well known files like emacs
> 
> In the list I saw
> 
> drwxr-xr-x   3 root   root  4096 2006-10-17 14:54 dpkg
> 
> But if you type in
> 
> ls -l dkpg you get
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/etc$ pwd
> /etc
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/etc$ ls -l dkpg
> ls: dkpg: No such file or directory
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/etc$ ls -la dkpg
> ls: dkpg: No such file or directory
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/etc$
> 
> It's as if it is there but it cannot be seen.  Is this some kind of file 
> permission problem? Or is my OS not feeling well today?
> 
> If you try to run dkpg i.e.
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/etc$ /etc/dkpg
> bash: /etc/dkpg: No such file or directory
> 
> 
> it doesn't see it.
> 
> Being root doesn't help either.
> 
> spc2-burn3-0-0-cust329:/etc# /etc/dkpg
> bash: /etc/dkpg: No such file or directory
> spc2-burn3-0-0-cust329:/etc# ls -l dkpg
> ls: dkpg: No such file or directory
> spc2-burn3-0-0-cust329:/etc#
> 
> Suggestions welcome.
> 
> I hope this is a better posting this time.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Michael Fothergill
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Re: In search of Helvetica

[Sjoerd Hiemstra]

Liam O'Toole wrote:
> I used to use Helvetica as the application font, and quite liked it.
> What caused me to change was that it kept popping up in web pages at
> inappropriate sizes, looking --- as Rick puts it --- seriously ugly. I
> never found a way to alias Helvetica to a Truetype font in the browser
> content while preserving it in the browser chrome and elsewhere.

Remarkable I always see a font like Helvetica displayed in the
nearest existent size.  (Using Mozilla or Opera, if that matters.)
'xlsfonts | grep helv' reveals that these sizes are  8, 10, 11, 12, 14,
17, 18 etc.

It might be a good idea to install the msttcorefonts package, to make
certain web sites look better.  In html, Helvetica is not often coded as
the sans-serif font of first choice.

S.H.


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Re: Starting iptables

[H.S.]

cothrige wrote:

* H.S. ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:


Well, my custom firewall script does take start, stop and restart
arguments and so I could call it using the rc method. However, I have
thus far used it by calling it with a pre-up line in the stanza for my eth0:
pre-up /etc/myfirewall/firewall.sh restart



You added that line to /etc/network/interfaces, right?  Does it matter
just where you put it in the script?

Patrick




Yes, it does. You need to put that line in the stanza corresponding to 
the interface you want to bring up the firewall with. For example, if 
you want to execute the script right before eth0 is brought up, then you 
will need to put the line in the eth0 stanza:

iface eth0 inet dhcp
pre-up /etc/firewall-hs/fw-masq.sh restart


The line beginning with "pre-up" means to execute the following command 
before the current interface (in whose stanza the line is) is brought up.




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Re: Kernel panic on Dell with Debian

[Matus UHLAR - fantomas]

On 18.10.06 15:51, Luiz Felipe wrote:
> I've tried to install Debian Sarge in a Dell PowerEdge 1425. The CD 
> doesn't recognize the SCSI adapter (AIC), but I've found one ISO which 
> contains the driver needed 
> (http://wiki.osuosl.org/display/LNX/Debian+on+Dell+Servers).
> 
> After successfully installed, the system doesn't have support to 
> iptables. So, recompiled the kernel and was expecting to work.
> 
> But the system boots no longer. It gave me a  kernel panic message, 
> unable to mount root partition (/dev/sda1) or 08:00. This partition, 
> /dev/sda1, is correct.

did you build/install/use initrd? I guess you're missing your SCSI card
driver. It may be located on initrd.

do you have the whole error message?

> I followed the instructions in the site I've mentioned above to 
> recompile the kernel, but this problem drove me crazy. I copied the 
> config file available on the site and one at /boot folder to 
> /usr/src/KERNEL_VERSION/.config, changed nothing, compiled and the 
> system still doesn't working.

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Re: downloading the files using jigdo

[hendrik]

On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 05:27:55PM +0100, Martin Smith wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> i am currently using Windows XP home and wanted to use Debian to see 
> what it is like, now i have got Jigdo, and i am not sure what files i 
> have to download using and how to actully use Jigdo.
> 
> I have read the FAQs and the help documnet on the website but i am still 
> confused on what i download and how to use Jigdo.
> 
> Could you please help me.
> 
> Thanks
> Martin

You could download a huge number of CD images (or the equivalent DVD 
images), or you could just download just one netinst (net install) 
CD image.

That one is enough to get started.  It will install you a minimal Debian 
system -- just enough that you can boot it and finish the installation 
over the net.  The effect of this is that you will download and install 
just what you need, and not download the many, many gigabytes of 
packages you don't want.

The net install CD is I thing about 100 to 150 
Megabytes.  You'll save on downloading maybe 4G - 10G (does anyone 
know exactly how much? of stuff you don't need depending on which Debian 
distribution you are installing.

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Re: how to start the sound system

[Kay Smarczewski]

On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 09:23:31PM +0200, Kay Smarczewski wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 09:17:21PM +0200, Kay Smarczewski wrote:
> > On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 05:02:23PM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote:
> > > On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 14:20:35 +0200, Kay Smarczewski wrote:
> > > 
> > > [ ATI SB450 HDA sound card with snd_hda_intel module ]
> > > 
> > > > > Now i've found out another even more curious thing: everytime i purge
> > > > > alsa-base, alsa-utils and linux-sound-base the sound works. but after
> > > > > rebooting i get only the errors and no sound :(
> > > > > 
> > > > > on booting i get:
> > > > > hda_codec: invalid dep_range_va l
> > > > 
> > > > oh, i forgot: playing .wav-files with aplay works without any errors.
> > > > 
> > > > can it be the codec or something like that?
> > > 
> > > You can see the codecs listed in the /proc/asound/card0/ directory.
> > > 
> > > You need the Realtek ALC883 codec according to this web page
> > > http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_Acer_Aspire_5102WLMi
> > > 
> > > I noticed that my kernel sources have a realtek-specific patch in the
> > > hda directory: sound/pci/hda/patch_realtek.c
> > > Maybe this patch is missing for your kernel.
> > 
> > the codec /proc/asound/card0/codec#0 is the same as listed on the page
> > and i have the kernel 2.6.19rc2. that should contain alsa 1.0.13rc3 as
> > listed on the page.
> > if have searched for the patch and i have it, too. :(
> > 
> > so i am not very hopeful. but of course i will try to compile the kernel
> > for myself.
> 
> i mean compiling the alsa-module, of course ;)

ok, i recompiled the kernel with the help of the alsa-page and your
link. and nothing changed:
after the first reboot everything works fine.
after the second time, only aplay works.

i get many of these errors:
hda_codec: invalid dep_range_val 0:7fff
hda_codec: num_steps = 0 for NID=0xd

i hope you have still any ideas because i almost give up...
i used windows today, and all works just without any configuring... :(

but i want to get this working!


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Re: how does ntpdate work ?

[harm]

apt-get install ntp i will just asume that wil sync every Xtime. Lets read the manpage now, ok :)thnxOn 10/18/06, Roberto C. Sanchez <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 09:36:08PM +0200, harm wrote:
> i think i should read those /usr/share/doc files more often :p>> however, ntpdate is only started once (on bootup) and it never needs to> resync afterwords ? since its not in ps aux...>
If you want something to resync periodically, then use ntp.  The purposeof ntpdate is for occasional one-time syncronization.Regards,-Roberto--Roberto C. Sanchez
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Re: how does ntpdate work ?

[Andrew Perrin]

From another of those pesky /usr/share/doc files:


che:/usr/share/doc/ntpdate# cat README.Debian
...
Note that ntpdate is *not* really intended to be used by hosts with
good network connectivity.  The "ntp" package, which provides a
persistent daemon that does a better job of keeping system time than
even a cron'ed invocation of ntpdate, is a better choice for systems
with good network connectivity.  If all you want is to set the clock
to a reasonable value once in a while, a more light-weight package
like "rdate" can also do the job.


On Wed, 18 Oct 2006, harm wrote:


i think i should read those /usr/share/doc files more often :p

however, ntpdate is only started once (on bootup) and it never needs to
resync afterwords ? since its not in ps aux...

On 10/18/06, Andrew Perrin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


According to /usr/share/doc/ntpdate/changlog.Debian.gz:

   * npdate is no longer started from an init script but instead by ifup
 (closes: #56499, #245338, #312576)
   * Run ntpdate from ifup in the background (closes: #321759, #375280,
 #382543)



The script is now in /etc/network/if-up.d .

Cheers,
Andy


On Wed, 18 Oct 2006, harm wrote:

> in good old sarge there was a script in /etc/init.d/ that would check
the
> clock with the ntp server(s) in /etc/default/ntpdate. But how does it
works
> in Etch, since the init.d script is gone ? Of course i can execute
ntpdate
> ntp.xs4all.nl but if i want it to sync every 24hrs should i put it in
cron
> or is there a "hidden" script somewhere to take care of it ?
>



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Re: how does ntpdate work ?

[Roberto C. Sanchez]

On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 09:36:08PM +0200, harm wrote:
> i think i should read those /usr/share/doc files more often :p
> 
> however, ntpdate is only started once (on bootup) and it never needs to
> resync afterwords ? since its not in ps aux...
> 

If you want something to resync periodically, then use ntp.  The purpose
of ntpdate is for occasional one-time syncronization.

Regards,

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[harm]

i think i should read those /usr/share/doc files more often :p however, ntpdate is only started once (on bootup) and it never needs to resync afterwords ? since its not in ps aux...
On 10/18/06, Andrew Perrin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
According to /usr/share/doc/ntpdate/changlog.Debian.gz:   * npdate is no longer started from an init script but instead by ifup (closes: #56499, #245338, #312576)   * Run ntpdate from ifup in the background (closes: #321759, #375280,
 #382543)The script is now in /etc/network/if-up.d .Cheers,AndyOn Wed, 18 Oct 2006, harm wrote:> in good old sarge there was a script in /etc/init.d/ that would check the
> clock with the ntp server(s) in /etc/default/ntpdate. But how does it works> in Etch, since the init.d script is gone ? Of course i can execute ntpdate> ntp.xs4all.nl
 but if i want it to sync every 24hrs should i put it in cron> or is there a "hidden" script somewhere to take care of it ?>--
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Re: how does ntpdate work ?

[Andrew Perrin]

According to /usr/share/doc/ntpdate/changlog.Debian.gz:

  * npdate is no longer started from an init script but instead by ifup
(closes: #56499, #245338, #312576)
  * Run ntpdate from ifup in the background (closes: #321759, #375280,
#382543)



The script is now in /etc/network/if-up.d .

Cheers,
Andy


On Wed, 18 Oct 2006, harm wrote:


in good old sarge there was a script in /etc/init.d/ that would check the
clock with the ntp server(s) in /etc/default/ntpdate. But how does it works
in Etch, since the init.d script is gone ? Of course i can execute ntpdate
ntp.xs4all.nl but if i want it to sync every 24hrs should i put it in cron
or is there a "hidden" script somewhere to take care of it ?





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how does ntpdate work ?

[harm]

in good old sarge there was a script in /etc/init.d/ that would check the clock with the ntp server(s) in /etc/default/ntpdate. But how does it works in Etch, since the init.d script is gone ? Of course i can execute ntpdate 
ntp.xs4all.nl but if i want it to sync every 24hrs should i put it in cron or is there a "hidden" script somewhere to take care of it ?

Re: how to start the sound system

[Kay Smarczewski]

On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 09:17:21PM +0200, Kay Smarczewski wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 05:02:23PM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote:
> > On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 14:20:35 +0200, Kay Smarczewski wrote:
> > 
> > [ ATI SB450 HDA sound card with snd_hda_intel module ]
> > 
> > > > Now i've found out another even more curious thing: everytime i purge
> > > > alsa-base, alsa-utils and linux-sound-base the sound works. but after
> > > > rebooting i get only the errors and no sound :(
> > > > 
> > > > on booting i get:
> > > > hda_codec: invalid dep_range_va l
> > > 
> > > oh, i forgot: playing .wav-files with aplay works without any errors.
> > > 
> > > can it be the codec or something like that?
> > 
> > You can see the codecs listed in the /proc/asound/card0/ directory.
> > 
> > You need the Realtek ALC883 codec according to this web page
> > http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_Acer_Aspire_5102WLMi
> > 
> > I noticed that my kernel sources have a realtek-specific patch in the
> > hda directory: sound/pci/hda/patch_realtek.c
> > Maybe this patch is missing for your kernel.
> 
> the codec /proc/asound/card0/codec#0 is the same as listed on the page
> and i have the kernel 2.6.19rc2. that should contain alsa 1.0.13rc3 as
> listed on the page.
> if have searched for the patch and i have it, too. :(
> 
> so i am not very hopeful. but of course i will try to compile the kernel
> for myself.

i mean compiling the alsa-module, of course ;)


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Re: how to start the sound system

[Kay Smarczewski]

On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 05:02:23PM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 14:20:35 +0200, Kay Smarczewski wrote:
> 
> [ ATI SB450 HDA sound card with snd_hda_intel module ]
> 
> > > Now i've found out another even more curious thing: everytime i purge
> > > alsa-base, alsa-utils and linux-sound-base the sound works. but after
> > > rebooting i get only the errors and no sound :(
> > > 
> > > on booting i get:
> > > hda_codec: invalid dep_range_va l
> > 
> > oh, i forgot: playing .wav-files with aplay works without any errors.
> > 
> > can it be the codec or something like that?
> 
> You can see the codecs listed in the /proc/asound/card0/ directory.
> 
> You need the Realtek ALC883 codec according to this web page
> http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_Acer_Aspire_5102WLMi
> 
> I noticed that my kernel sources have a realtek-specific patch in the
> hda directory: sound/pci/hda/patch_realtek.c
> Maybe this patch is missing for your kernel.

the codec /proc/asound/card0/codec#0 is the same as listed on the page
and i have the kernel 2.6.19rc2. that should contain alsa 1.0.13rc3 as
listed on the page.
if have searched for the patch and i have it, too. :(

so i am not very hopeful. but of course i will try to compile the kernel
for myself.


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exim4 outgoing address translation

[dtutty]

Hello,

I currently have exim4 set up and working fine.  Outgoing mail is
rewritten from dtutty to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

How do I get it to rewrite it to 
Doug Tutty and Jane Horton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Re: cdebootstrap, USB-Ethernet

[Sven Arvidsson]

On Wed, 2006-10-18 at 09:58 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> The Pegasus driver successfully operates a Belkin
> USB-Ethernet adapter on my desktop Pentium system.
> Required modules are loaded automatically. 
> 
> Recently I installed the base system on the hdd from 
> a Toshiba Pentium laptop 4000CDS using cdebootstrap.  
> With that system, the indicator light on the Belkin 
> never illuminates and the adapter is not reported by 
> ifconfig.
> 
> The Web page for 
> Package: nic-usb-modules-2.6.17-2-486-di (1.37)
> states this.
> "Warning: This package is intended for the use in building 
> debian-installer images only. Do not install it on a normal 
> Debian system."
> So I did not try to install this module.
> 
> What should I do to get the Belkin adapter to work as 
> on my desktop system?

A (very) quick suggestion. You can list the loaded modules and the
installed packages and try to find any differences between the systems.

lsmod and dpkg -l

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Re: APC UPS under Linux?

[Stephen Cormier]

On Wednesday 18 October 2006 12:45, Yura wrote:
> Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
> > On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 06:09:15PM +0300, Yura wrote:
> >> Thank you. I'll try to set it up.If you have some good tutorial, etc.
> >> please send.
> >
> > I'm afraid I don't.  Though, the documentation is fine.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > -Roberto
>
> One more question: Does it work with USB data cable?

Make sure that you have these set they work for me.

#
#UPSCABLE smart
UPSCABLE usb

and

#
#UPSTYPE apcsmart
#DEVICE /dev/ttyS0
UPSTYPE usb
DEVICE /dev/usb/hid/hiddev[0-9]


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Re: Keyboard Shortcuts in Gnome

[Sven Arvidsson]

On Wed, 2006-10-18 at 11:30 -0500, Carl Greco wrote:
> Has anyone got the keyboard shortcut (Applications->Desktop 
> Preferences->Keyboard Shortcuts) assigned to "Take a screenshot" or 
> "Take a screenshot of a window" to work for Sarge distribution (latest 
> release with 2.6.8 kernel, gnome 2.8 and keyboard: pc104, us, xfree86)?  
> Default setting has the "Print" key assigned to "Take a screenshot" and 
> Print to "Take a screenshot of a window".   It appears to be a 
> hot-key problem.  The (Actions->Take Screenshot) works and the 
> application "/usr/bin/gnome-panel-screenshot" will capture the entire 
> screen or the active window.  Also, I can assign a keyboard shortcut to 
> F12 to pop up the Home Folder.  However, if instead I re-assign 
> F12 to "Take a screenshot" or "Take a screenshot of a window" - 
> nothing!  Is this a Gnome or Debian issue?  There's a recent Debian bug 
> report (#384475) which addresses this issue; however, there is a claim 
> that the PrtScr button does work.  It's not clear in the bug report 
> which distribution (sarge, etch, etc) this report addresses.  I have 
> found this problem on two separate Debian (Sarge) systems.

Hi,

Yes, I remember that bug. AFAIK it was caused by a bug in XFree86, it
was later fixed in Xorg. I don't think there is an easy work around.

The bug you mentioned seems to be about the screenshot feature in the
installer. Instead see #275091, #231076 and
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=125048

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Re: firewalling, imap, DMZ's etc.

[Adam D]

Joe wrote:
> George Borisov wrote:
>> Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
>>> 1. use my smoothwall box as is, portforward IMAP to my server and run
>>>with it. potential problems are that my LAN, behind smoothwall, is
>>>pretty loosey goosey and I run a pretty good risk of being
>>>compromised. especially because i"m running a not-up-to-date sid
>>>server (driver issues during install, I could downgrade to testing
>>>now and solve that problem.)
>>
>> This is what I do at the moment. I am running Courier-IMAP on an
>> Etch box that I update regularly. My firewall router (not a
>> Debian box, unfortunately, as that got killed when the PSU blew
>> up) forwards the appropriate port to the server.
>>
>> An alternative would be to use ssh forwarding, which is really
>> easy and cross-platform (SSH into your network and then redirect
>> traffic from a local port on the remote client to anywhere on the
>> network). I do this for my web-server that I don't want exposed
>> to the Net. The only downside is that I get an SSL warning about
>> the hostname not matching the one on the certificate (have to
>> click OK every time I connect - small price to pay). Much easier
>> than setting up a VPN.
>>
>> The DMZ setup is good, but as you said, it requires more work and
>> an extra box.
>>
>>
> 
> I'd go along with that. I run sshd on a non-standard port, to
> avoid the automated attacks, and forward IMAP to the remote
> machine. Since it's normally a Windows one, I have puTTY and
> my encrypted private key on a USB drive, and configure Outlook
> or Outlook Express to talk to my IMAP server as necessary,
> deleting the account afterwards. Not 100% safe, but what is?
> If you also carry pscp, that comes with puTTY, you have an scp
> route into your network for fairly safe file transfer.
> 
> It depends how sophisticated you want to be: you can also
> forget IMAP, and use mutt over ssh, or even cat and the
> sendmail command if you ssh to the machine hosting the mail.
> That really won't leave much of a footprint on the remote
> machine, and keylogging won't be much use without a copy of
> the encrypted private key.

I like that and it is very simple. :)

-adam
 


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Re: how to install ali web cam .

[Sven Arvidsson]

On Wed, 2006-10-18 at 20:14 +0200, Jabka Atu wrote:
> Good Evening.
> i have debian unstable on acer 5102wlmi.
> 
> it has ali web cam :
> Bus 003 Device 003: ID 0402:5602 ALi Corp
> 
> i googled the web and found that the module that shoukd support it the 
> 560x  should be in my kernel allready
> but i could not load it :
> FATAL: Module m560x not found.
> 
> nor find how to start it .
> my kernel is :
> 2.6.18-1-amd64

From the information available here, it sounds like the driver is in
early stages of development and not in the mainline linux kernel. 
http://m560x.x3ng.com/wiki/CurrentState

You need to compile it for yourself.

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Kernel panic on Dell with Debian

[Luiz Felipe]

Hi,

I've tried to install Debian Sarge in a Dell PowerEdge 1425. The CD 
doesn't recognize the SCSI adapter (AIC), but I've found one ISO which 
contains the driver needed 
(http://wiki.osuosl.org/display/LNX/Debian+on+Dell+Servers).


After successfully installed, the system doesn't have support to 
iptables. So, recompiled the kernel and was expecting to work.


But the system boots no longer. It gave me a  kernel panic message, 
unable to mount root partition (/dev/sda1) or 08:00. This partition, 
/dev/sda1, is correct.


I followed the instructions in the site I've mentioned above to 
recompile the kernel, but this problem drove me crazy. I copied the 
config file available on the site and one at /boot folder to 
/usr/src/KERNEL_VERSION/.config, changed nothing, compiled and the 
system still doesn't working.


And yes, I've ran lilo.

Any ideas?
Thanks.

Regards,
Luiz Felipe de Souza Gomes.



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Re: Starting iptables

[cothrige]

* [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> 
> As I see it, you have two choices.  If you just want something that
> should do what you want and don't want to have to set anything up, just
> install ipmasq.  It determines what the untrusted network is by where
> the default route or gateway points; its automatic.  If you want the
> tightest firewall with only the ports you want open, then go with
> shorewall.  

Interesting what you say about ipmasq.  How automatic is it?  I would
have assumed that it had more to do with making your machine a
gateway, which mine isn't, than firewalling itself.  I am assuming
that it does both?  

> The documentation is vast; its like a book.  You wouldn't buy a big book
> on network security and open it to the middle and expect to know what
> was going on.  Start at the beginning and just read it through.  Trust
> your brain to synthesize and develop a plan for your situation.

I know what you mean there.  I think it turned out to be something
like 550 pages, give or take.  And I actually was reading it from the
beginning, but you can imagine what a task that is just to set up a
couple of rules.  And I was beginning to think that it was not set up
to handle a situation as simple as mine.  Of course, I was wrong.

But, this all begs the question of what Shorewall is really trying to
do.  I would think that the point of these firewall tools would be to
get around the rather difficult process of figuring out iptables.
However, shorewall seems to simply replace the very archaic and tricky
iptables commands and structure with its own equally difficult
version.  Why is that exactly?  Couldn't somebody with that kind of
need simply take the same time and learn the very thing that Shorewall
is manipulating, i.e. iptables?

Patrick


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Re: firewalls and installation stuff....

[Sven Arvidsson]

On Wed, 2006-10-18 at 12:21 +, Michael Fothergill wrote:
> Would that have been enough to include and fire up some kind of firewall or 
> do I need to install that separately?
> 
> If so what firewall would you recommend and what aptitude command will fetch 
> me it?
> 
> How do I know that the firewall is on and working?

Other have already recommended shorewall, but there are other tools you
can try. For example firestarter is a complete package for managing a
firewall, and GUI based.

> Also if I want to probe the horizontal and vertical refresh rate of the 
> monitor I am using more precisely using Linux (e.g. superprobe?), how do I 
> do it?
> 
> Also I assume that if I go into the config box in Gnome then I should be 
> able to run the Xwindows config again somehow and then put in the precise 
> monitor refresh information into Xwindows and then have the monitor work as 
> effectively as possible.
> 
> Suggestions on the best strategy here are appreciated.  The video card is an 
> SiS 630/730 according to Fedora.  Putting in SiS as the card manufacturer 
> type seemed to work well.
> 
> So far I chose the "simple" option and put a generic 15 inch CRT display in 
> form my monitor.  This has actually worked OK but I want to refine it and 
> give Debian the fair deal when it comes to running my hardware.

You can re-run the configuration for X and manually input the correct
refresh rate. The configuration can be run inside X from a terminal, but
you need to restart X for the changes to take effect.

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cdebootstrap, USB-Ethernet

[shark]

The Pegasus driver successfully operates a Belkin
USB-Ethernet adapter on my desktop Pentium system.
Required modules are loaded automatically. 

Recently I installed the base system on the hdd from 
a Toshiba Pentium laptop 4000CDS using cdebootstrap.  
With that system, the indicator light on the Belkin 
never illuminates and the adapter is not reported by 
ifconfig.

The Web page for 
Package: nic-usb-modules-2.6.17-2-486-di (1.37)
states this.
"Warning: This package is intended for the use in building 
debian-installer images only. Do not install it on a normal 
Debian system."
So I did not try to install this module.

What should I do to get the Belkin adapter to work as 
on my desktop system?

Thanks,  ... Peter E.

Desktops.OpenDoc  http://carnot.pathology.ubc.ca/


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how to install ali web cam .

[Jabka Atu]

Good Evening.
i have debian unstable on acer 5102wlmi.

it has ali web cam :
Bus 003 Device 003: ID 0402:5602 ALi Corp

i googled the web and found that the module that shoukd support it the 
560x  should be in my kernel allready

but i could not load it :
FATAL: Module m560x not found.

nor find how to start it .
my kernel is :
2.6.18-1-amd64


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Re: 1 CPU or 2 ?

[Jacob S]

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> On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 20:04:53 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote
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> > On 10/14/06 19:53, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
> > > On Sat, Oct 14, 2006 at 05:33:29PM -0700, michael wrote:
> > >> Hello,
> > >> Looking for suggestions on going with 1 dual core CPU
> > >> or 2 dual core CPU. Main server would be an NFS file server.
> > >> Probably using SW raid as well.
> > >> Money is a conern.
> > >> Is it better to go with a single, yet faster CPU?,
> > >> or go with a slower CPU, yet have 2 of them?
> > >>
> > > Go with whatever you can get cheeper.  If it is primarily an NFS
> > > server, any CPU over 1 GHz will do.  Even a single cpu with a
> > > single core.  The only concern is if you are using a 10 Gbps
> > > network card.  If money is a concern, you are not going to be
> > > using a 10 Gbps network card.
> > 
> > Other questions to ask:
> > - - How many users will it be serving?
> > - - How "busy" will it be?  Even if you are only serving one system,
> >   will it be a streaming uncompressed High Def video server, or an
> >   MPEG-2 and MP3 server for 1 person.?
> 
> Probably about 100-150 workstations. 
> This server will also run proxy, email and web, but my main concern
> was NFS as I'm kinda new to it.

Sorry to join this thread a little late, but do you really need all of
those services on one server? I consider it a pretty big security risk
to have private data files on a public e-mail/web server. If it were up
to me, I would be looking into a way to get 2 cheap servers instead of
1 expensive server.

HTH,
Jacob
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Re: gid option on ext3 in fstab[SOLVED]

[Lars Staun Knudsen]

Bill Marcum wrote:
> The gid and uid mount options only work with file systems such 
> as vfat, which do not have a uid and gid for each file.  Instead, you 
> could use "chmod g+s".

Thanks you very much. I only used sticky bit on files and never
though of using it on directories.

Best Regards

/Lars


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Re: recognition of dkpg file by OS

[Michael Fothergill]

From: "Roberto C. Sanchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: recognition of  dkpg file by OS
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 13:31:31 -0400

On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 05:27:41PM +, Michael Fothergill wrote:
>
> I tried to run dkpg.
>
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/etc$ dkpg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86
> bash: dkpg-reconfigure: command not found
>

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ which dpkg-reconfigure
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ su -
Password:
miami:~# which dpkg-reconfigure
/usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure
miami:~#

For it to be userful, you really need to run it as root.

Regards,

-Roberto


I ran it and it worked.  I have reconfigured X in advanced mode and the 
display is perfect.  I wanted to do justice to the Debian OS and this helped 
me do so.  Thanks.
I also configured my printer and the commentary in the configuration 
software on the drivers is much superior to Fedora.  It also knew what kind 
of printer I had.  The guide even told me how to probe the ink cartridge 
capacity in the printer.  Fedora does not help with this.  I guess apt will 
be /usr/sbin aswell.


Regards

mikef


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Re: Starting iptables

[dtutty]

On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 09:06:10AM -0500, cothrige wrote:
> * Kevin Mark ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > > 
> > Hi Patrick,
> > most folks just run 'shorewall'! And you can add more rules if you need
> > to.
> > =Kev
> 
> This does seem to be the consensus here.  However, as I have never
> used this tool it is a bit intimidating.  And the documentation is so
> vast it may be a bit of an overkill for my very simple purposes.  You
> see, I have only one NIC which is connected to a Linksys router, which
> in turn is connected to the modem.  My modem does its own firewalling,
> but I cannot bring myself to rely entirely on it, and always set up my
> own as well.  But, because I have only one NIC I can never quite
> figure out what to do with loc in the zones, which in the
> documentation and such is always eth1, which I don't have.  Should I
> not have a loc zone?  Or do I just have eth0 for both net and loc?
> 
Under shorewall, you would not have a loc since you don't have a local
network.  You would only have 'fw', your one-and-only box is the
firewall.

As I see it, you have two choices.  If you just want something that
should do what you want and don't want to have to set anything up, just
install ipmasq.  It determines what the untrusted network is by where
the default route or gateway points; its automatic.  If you want the
tightest firewall with only the ports you want open, then go with
shorewall.  

The documentation is vast; its like a book.  You wouldn't buy a big book
on network security and open it to the middle and expect to know what
was going on.  Start at the beginning and just read it through.  Trust
your brain to synthesize and develop a plan for your situation.

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Keyboard Shortcuts in Gnome

[Carl Greco]

Has anyone got the keyboard shortcut (Applications->Desktop 
Preferences->Keyboard Shortcuts) assigned to "Take a screenshot" or 
"Take a screenshot of a window" to work for Sarge distribution (latest 
release with 2.6.8 kernel, gnome 2.8 and keyboard: pc104, us, xfree86)?  
Default setting has the "Print" key assigned to "Take a screenshot" and 
Print to "Take a screenshot of a window".   It appears to be a 
hot-key problem.  The (Actions->Take Screenshot) works and the 
application "/usr/bin/gnome-panel-screenshot" will capture the entire 
screen or the active window.  Also, I can assign a keyboard shortcut to 
F12 to pop up the Home Folder.  However, if instead I re-assign 
F12 to "Take a screenshot" or "Take a screenshot of a window" - 
nothing!  Is this a Gnome or Debian issue?  There's a recent Debian bug 
report (#384475) which addresses this issue; however, there is a claim 
that the PrtScr button does work.  It's not clear in the bug report 
which distribution (sarge, etch, etc) this report addresses.  I have 
found this problem on two separate Debian (Sarge) systems.


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downloading the files using jigdo

[Martin Smith]

Hi,

i am currently using Windows XP home and wanted to use Debian to see 
what it is like, now i have got Jigdo, and i am not sure what files i 
have to download using and how to actully use Jigdo.


I have read the FAQs and the help documnet on the website but i am still 
confused on what i download and how to use Jigdo.


Could you please help me.

Thanks
Martin


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Re: recognition of dkpg file by OS

[Roberto C. Sanchez]

On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 05:27:41PM +, Michael Fothergill wrote:
> 
> I tried to run dkpg.
> 
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/etc$ dkpg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86
> bash: dkpg-reconfigure: command not found
> 

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ which dpkg-reconfigure
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ su -
Password:
miami:~# which dpkg-reconfigure
/usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure
miami:~#

For it to be userful, you really need to run it as root.

Regards,

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Re: AVG anti-virus

[steef]

Raquel wrote:

On Wed, 18 Oct 2006 17:06:11 +0200
steef <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

  

Ron Johnson wrote:


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hi list,

AVG (www.grisoft.com) has a in their opinion 'free'


anti-virusprogram > AVG. does debian (i.c. sarge and or etch)
really need such a program? > and, what is free? i cannot find
their source-code on their webpage. >
  

your comments on this topic are highly appreciated,



Is this for a mail server that many Windows PCs attach to, or is
this only for your workstation?


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..i am maintainer of two (inter)national maillists for farmers,
here in  europe..

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I think that the question is still valid.  Why AVG, which requires a
lot of work to install and keep current, instead of Clam-AV, which
can be installed and kept current using aptitude/apt-get?

  

you are right. see my allmost last answer to andrew in this thread.

hth.,

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Re: Good photo organizer?

[steef]

Yura wrote:

Good photo organizer for Debian?

Thank you!



digikam


reg.

steef :-)


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recognition of dkpg file by OS

[Michael Fothergill]

I tried to run dkpg.


[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/etc$ dkpg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86
bash: dkpg-reconfigure: command not found

As you see it didn't work.  So I tried using whereis

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/etc$ whereis dkpg
dkpg:

Neither did that.

I thought, well it must be somewhere so I looked in /etc and typed

ls -l

It listed a whole of files including apt and well known files like emacs

In the list I saw

drwxr-xr-x   3 root   root  4096 2006-10-17 14:54 dpkg

But if you type in

ls -l dkpg you get
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/etc$ pwd
/etc
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/etc$ ls -l dkpg
ls: dkpg: No such file or directory
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/etc$ ls -la dkpg
ls: dkpg: No such file or directory
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/etc$

It's as if it is there but it cannot be seen.  Is this some kind of file 
permission problem? Or is my OS not feeling well today?


If you try to run dkpg i.e.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/etc$ /etc/dkpg
bash: /etc/dkpg: No such file or directory


it doesn't see it.

Being root doesn't help either.

spc2-burn3-0-0-cust329:/etc# /etc/dkpg
bash: /etc/dkpg: No such file or directory
spc2-burn3-0-0-cust329:/etc# ls -l dkpg
ls: dkpg: No such file or directory
spc2-burn3-0-0-cust329:/etc#

Suggestions welcome.

I hope this is a better posting this time.

Regards

Michael Fothergill

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Re: AVG anti-virus

[steef]

Andrew Sackville-West wrote:

On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 06:17:05PM +0200, steef wrote:
  
 
  
...well you made your point clear, and convincingly. i *had* clamav 
installed but did not do with it what is possible, when i read your 
email well.
so: i gonna read the stuff on clamav and make a as complete 
reconnaissance of its functions i can *before* i install avg.



heres a start for you:

http://www.debian-administration.org/tag/antivirus

A
  

thanks!

steef


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Re: APC UPS under Linux?

[Roberto C. Sanchez]

On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 06:45:56PM +0300, Yura wrote:
> >  
> One more question: Does it work with USB data cable?
> 

For some.  You will need to check the documentation.  If you are using
the version in Sid or Etch, then you should probably have support for
even very recent APC models.

Regards,

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> Hi,
>
> I've a Debian machine with a sound card. I can play
> mp3 with libOSS.so. When I connect to this machine with
> ssh from another machine (it's a Sun terminal) with X
> forwarding, I can start xmms and it also starts playing
> the mp3. However, the sound is not forwarded to my
> headphones connected to my Sun terminal. What is wrong?
> Do I need to install any more modules/programs?
>
> Regards,
> Chris
>
>
>  
Add this in /etc/envirnoment
ESPEAKER=localhost:16001
open forword 16001 from remote to local system via ssh, then start esd
in local system.
play music via Esound output, it can be configured in XMMS.

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Dymo 320 USB - no writeable port?

[Andrew Perrin]

I've been playing around with a Dymo label printer, model 320, which is a
USB printer.  My system recognizes it fine and attaches the usblp driver,
but the appropriate port (/dev/usb/lp1) is unwriteable. Yes, I'm sure it's
lp1 because lp0 is the regular laser printer on this machine.

Here's the syslog trace from when the printer is plugged in:
---
Oct 18 09:16:38 perrin kernel: hub 5-0:1.0: state 7 ports 8 chg  evt
0004
Oct 18 09:16:38 perrin kernel: ehci_hcd :00:1d.7: GetStatus port 2
status 001403 POWER sig=k CSC CONNECT
Oct 18 09:16:38 perrin kernel: hub 5-0:1.0: port 2, status 0501, change
0001, 480 Mb/s
Oct 18 09:16:38 perrin kernel: hub 5-0:1.0: debounce: port 2: total 100ms
stable 100ms status 0x501
Oct 18 09:16:38 perrin kernel: ehci_hcd :00:1d.7: port 2 low speed -->
companion
Oct 18 09:16:38 perrin kernel: ehci_hcd :00:1d.7: GetStatus port 2
status 003002 POWER OWNER sig=se0 CSC
Oct 18 09:16:38 perrin kernel: hub 1-0:1.0: state 7 ports 2 chg  evt
0004
Oct 18 09:16:38 perrin kernel: uhci_hcd :00:1d.0: port 2 portsc 01a3,00
Oct 18 09:16:38 perrin kernel: hub 1-0:1.0: port 2, status 0301, change
0001, 1.5 Mb/s
Oct 18 09:16:38 perrin kernel: hub 1-0:1.0: debounce: port 2: total 100ms
stable 100ms status 0x301
Oct 18 09:16:38 perrin kernel: usb 1-2: new low speed USB device using
uhci_hcd and address 4
Oct 18 09:16:38 perrin kernel: usb 1-2: default language 0x0409
Oct 18 09:16:38 perrin kernel: usb 1-2: new device strings: Mfr=1,
Product=2, SerialNumber=3
Oct 18 09:16:38 perrin kernel: usb 1-2: Product: DYMO LabelWriter 320
Oct 18 09:16:38 perrin kernel: usb 1-2: Manufacturer: DYMO
Oct 18 09:16:38 perrin kernel: usb 1-2: SerialNumber: 03032810404356
Oct 18 09:16:38 perrin kernel: usb 1-2: uevent
Oct 18 09:16:38 perrin kernel: usb 1-2: device is self-powered
Oct 18 09:16:38 perrin kernel: usb 1-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1
choice
Oct 18 09:16:38 perrin kernel: usb 1-2: adding 1-2:1.0 (config #1, interface
0)
Oct 18 09:16:38 perrin kernel: usb 1-2:1.0: uevent
Oct 18 09:16:38 perrin kernel: usblp 1-2:1.0: usb_probe_interface
Oct 18 09:16:38 perrin kernel: usblp 1-2:1.0: usb_probe_interface - got id
Oct 18 09:16:38 perrin kernel: drivers/usb/core/file.c: looking for a minor,
starting at 0
Oct 18 09:16:38 perrin kernel: drivers/usb/class/usblp.c: usblp1: USB
Bidirectional printer dev 4 if 0 alt 0 proto 2 vid 0x0922 pid 0x0010
Oct 18 09:16:38 perrin kernel: drivers/usb/core/inode.c: creating file '004'
Oct 18 09:16:38 perrin kernel: hub 1-0:1.0: state 7 ports 2 chg  evt
0004
Oct 18 09:16:39 perrin usb.agent[4958]:  usblp: already loaded
---

Here's the device entry from /proc/bus/usb/devices:
---
T:  Bus=01 Lev=01 Prnt=01 Port=01 Cnt=02 Dev#=  4 Spd=1.5 MxCh= 0
D:  Ver= 1.10 Cls=ff(vend.) Sub=00 Prot=00 MxPS= 8 #Cfgs=  1
P:  Vendor=0922 ProdID=0010 Rev= 1.00
S:  Manufacturer=DYMO
S:  Product=DYMO LabelWriter 320
S:  SerialNumber=03032810404356
C:* #Ifs= 1 Cfg#= 1 Atr=c0 MxPwr=  0mA
I:  If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 2 Cls=07(print) Sub=01 Prot=02 Driver=usblp
E:  Ad=81(I) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS=   8 Ivl=0ms
E:  Ad=02(O) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS=   8 Ivl=0ms
---

...But here's what happens:
---
perrin:/dev/usb# ls -l lp0 lp1
crw-rw-rw- 1 root lp 180, 0 2005-09-15 10:53 lp0
crw-rw-rw- 1 root lp 180, 1 2005-09-15 10:53 lp1
perrin:/dev/usb# cat /etc/motd > lp1
-bash: lp1: Input/output error
---

Any advice? Thanks. Andy




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Re: LTO-2 Tape Drive Recommendations

[Justin Piszcz]

On Wed, 18 Oct 2006, Tim Boring wrote:

> I'm looking to get an LTO-2 tape drive/autoloader for doing server
> backups.  I've tried a Dell PV-122 autoloader (8 cartridges) but had
> issues with it, so I'm thinking about trying something different.
> (Tried calling Dell tech support but they weren't very helpful; they
> seemed to only "understand" RedHat Linux.)  Anyone have any
> recommendations of a drive or autoloader that they have had good
> experiences with on Debian Sarge?
> 
> Thanks,
> Tim
> 
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Re: AVG anti-virus

[Andrew Sackville-West]

On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 06:17:05PM +0200, steef wrote:
> >  
> ...well you made your point clear, and convincingly. i *had* clamav 
> installed but did not do with it what is possible, when i read your 
> email well.
> so: i gonna read the stuff on clamav and make a as complete 
> reconnaissance of its functions i can *before* i install avg.

heres a start for you:

http://www.debian-administration.org/tag/antivirus

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Re: firewalls and installation stuff....

[Andrew Sackville-West]

On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 04:26:41PM +, Michael Fothergill wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> >From: Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> >Subject: Re: firewalls and installation stuff
> >Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 08:43:05 -0700
> >
> >On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 08:08:33AM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> >>
> >> And don't take this personally, but as a piece of friendly
> >[...]
> >
> >> http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
> >>
> >
> >I hope that didn't come across as harsh as it now looks to me.
> >
> >A
> 
> It's OK.  In the case of the reconfiguring of Xwindows I thought you 
> couild do that from the configuration editor in Gnome now I have 
> installed it so I thought I was asking a slightly different question 
> than before.  I now realise I would just use the same command you 
> recommended before.

there is a seperation between Gnome and X. Its all about layers
(onions have layers!). Gnome is sort of the icing on the cake that is
X sitting on the plate that is linux. That is not to say that Gnome
couldn't incorporate a configuration mechanism that would allow
reconfiguration of X because it certainly could. 

> 
> I found the specs for my monitor on Google.  I will go away and think of 
> some more interesting questions to post on the site.

please don't go away, and realise that its not whether questions are
"interesting" or not, but whether they are either well researched,
informed questions or stabs in the dark. I am certainly one to make
too many stabs in the dark and would hope to help others to help
themselves somewhat. I'm glad you found your monitor specs, that will
make life much easier...


anyway, I apologise for coming off wrong there. 

A


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Re: AVG anti-virus

[steef]

Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote:

On 18.10.06 17:21, steef wrote:
  
thank you all for your comments.  i have decided to install AVG because 
i function here as mailserver for two maillistst, from - mostly-  
windows_machines via my debian-computer to other (mostly) 
windows_machines; with the exception of some french farmers who 
installed linux programs because they do not like bill gates and the 
macdonalds in their neighbourhood.



btw do you have clamav (with updates from debian-volatile) installed
already?
  

yes i have.

regards,

steef


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RFH: sarge$ ssh etch gthumb -> broken fonts ?

[Philipp Matthias Hahn]

Hello!

Please cc: me on replies, since I'm not subscribed to debian-user.

I encountered a very strage problem: I have several machines running
sarge(stable), etch(testing) and sid(unstable).
My main workstation is currently a sarge(stable) one.
When I ssh to an etch(testing) workstation and lunch, for example,
"gthumb" (or most GTK application), they display wrong:
- The shortcut-characters in the menu-bar are not underlined
- Alle check-boxes and radio-boxed just display without content, that is
  checkboxes are displayes as a white rectangle, radio-boxed are
  transparent (background shows through)
If I walk over to that etch(testing) workstation and login locally,
everytging works alright.
Doing it the other way around also works fine, that is starting an
sarge(stable) gthumb via an ssh connection from an etch(testing)
workstation.

Does somebody know, how GTK paints those boxes? (Mis-)using fonts, using
bitmaps or some other pixel-painter-way?

Some additional strange things:
- Once I was running "gfontview" on a sid(unstable) box in parallel via
  ssh and was displaying the "Bitstream Vera Sans" font. Suddenly
  "gthumb" was fine, but not always.
- "gthumb" sometimes misdisplays the pictures: once I had all pictures
  scrambled and/or replaces by an Mozilla mizard.
- Goole Earth misdisplayed it's font: Several characters where missing,
  only 'o's where shown. After removing some fonts (ttf-freefont),
  suddenly it was okay again.

The problem seems to be font related, but I'm out of ideas how to debug
this any further. Any ideas?

Thank you in advance.

BYtE
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Re: firewalls and installation stuff....

[Michael Fothergill]

From: Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: firewalls and installation stuff
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 08:43:05 -0700

On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 08:08:33AM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
>
> And don't take this personally, but as a piece of friendly
[...]

> http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>

I hope that didn't come across as harsh as it now looks to me.

A


It's OK.  In the case of the reconfiguring of Xwindows I thought you couild 
do that from the configuration editor in Gnome now I have installed it so I 
thought I was asking a slightly different question than before.  I now 
realise I would just use the same command you recommended before.


I found the specs for my monitor on Google.  I will go away and think of 
some more interesting questions to post on the site.


Regards

mikef



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Re: udev and how to find a harddisk

[Bill Marcum]

On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 02:02:14PM +0200, Goran wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I'm searching for a way to identify my harddisk with a script (somethink
> similar to fdisk -l). For that I watched out in /sys/block/hd*
> or /sys/block/sd*. But which entry shows me that I've found a read/write
> (harddisk) device or just a read-only device (cdrom)?
> 
hdparm -I 
dmesg | grep hd
grep hd /var/log/dmesg
cat /proc/ide/*/*/media


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