how can i add delta (as x _1- x_2) in OO?

[Jabka Atu]

hello ...

how can i add delta sign in formulas when i use math ?
for exmample :
Delta X = X_1 - X_2


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Re: Classic Gnubie accident

[W Paul Mills]

anthony wrote:

Hello

I'm embarrassed to admit this, but after using various flavours of 
debian for over a year 've managed to lock myself out of my /home 
directory. When I log in I get the message - your home directory .dmrc 
file has the wrong permissions - permissions should be set to 664


(its actually the whole /home directory that has the wrong permissions)

I have tried logging in to a failsafe terminal and fixing this by using 
chown username  /home/anthony/.dmrc


the file now has these permissions:

-rw-rw-r-- 1 anthony anthony 26 2006-09-21 18:56 /home/anthony/.dmrc

but the login message is the same.

I am reading the debian manual on file permissions, but I don't see an 
obvious way to reset this especially since I only have access to this 
file as root. 


Any help much appreciated



I think is should be 644 (that is what mine is).
-rw-r--r-- 1 wpmills wpmills 24 Feb 12  2006 .dmrc

chmod  644 /home/anthony/.dmrc

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Re: cupsys setup dumb question

[Steve Kemp]

On Sun, Oct 29, 2006 at 10:56:08PM -0700, Paul E Condon wrote:

> I install cupsys and apache among many hundreds of other packages.
> I point my browser (firefox) at localhost:631 as the howto directs and ...
> I'm told "
> Forbidden
> You don't have permission to access the resource on this server."

> Before the crash, I remember getting a menu screen on which I could select
> to sign in, etc. But now I can't even get to that.
> What have I forgotten?

  You'll want to take a look at /etc/cups/cups.conf, and the access
 control sections in that file.

  From memory there is something like this there:



Order deny,allow
Deny from all
Allow from 127.0.0.1


   That should allow you to connect from localhost.  You could
 try adding the local LAN in explicitly too:

Allow from 192.168.0.0/255.255.0.0

  (Update to your own network.)

  Once you do that restart cups and try again.

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Re: How to reverse a package upgrade?

[Steve Kemp]

On Sun, Oct 29, 2006 at 07:58:58PM -0800, rds wrote:

> Is the old version of the package still available in "testing"? And if not, is
> there a way to rollback to a previous verson of the package? I'm using 
> aptitude

  You want to take a look at http://snapshot.debian.net/ - although
 bear in mind that package downgrades aren't really
 supported/encouraged.

  This brief article shows a similar situation with reverting to
 an older kernel package:

http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/435

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Re: argh! linux and floppies

[Marc Wilson]

On Sun, Oct 29, 2006 at 07:08:53PM -0600, Kent West wrote:
> sudo fdformat -n /dev/.static/dev/fd0u1440

I have to wonder how you came up with that, vs reading the man page for
fdformat(8).  That tells you to use setfdprm(8) to set the parameters of the
generic device before trying to use it.

Further, why wouldn't you just use superformat(1)?  It usually does a MUCH
better job with marginal media than fdformat(8) does, and it'll invoke
mformat for you when it's done.

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Re: laptop display

[Zoran Kolic]

> Default Depth 24
> Subsection "Display"
> Depth 24
> Modes "1024X768" "800X600" "640X480"

If ctrl/alt +/- doesn't work, why
don't you just left 1024x768 and
restart x?
Man pages are installed?

 Zoran



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cupsys setup dumb question

[Paul E Condon]

I lost my sarge in a power glitch and am recreating. Most things are going well
but ...
I install cupsys and apache among many hundreds of other packages.
I point my browser (firefox) at localhost:631 as the howto directs and ...
I'm told "
Forbidden
You don't have permission to access the resource on this server."

I have already put myself in the lpadmin group and anyway apache can't
know whether or not I'm in that group. 
Before the crash, I remember getting a menu screen on which I could select
to sign in, etc. But now I can't even get to that.
What have I forgotten?

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Re: What's your favourite FLOSS?

[Tshepang Lekhonkhobe]

On 10/27/06, celejar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> * Desktop Environment [ xfce]


Is it safe to assume that you mean Xfce4?


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RE: postgresql database file names

[Tony Heal]

For those who care. Here is how you determine the disk space used for each
postgresql db.

#!/bin/bash

# scan the list of databases and provide the disk space used in human
readable form

dbs=`psql template1 -tc "select datname from pg_database"|sed s/" "/""/g`

for i in $dbs
do
oid=`psql template1 -tc "select oid from pg_database where datname =
'$i'"|sed s/" "/""/g`
echo "$i = "`du -sh "/var/lib/postgres/data/base/$oid"|awk '{print $1}'`
done


Tony


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[EMAIL PROTECTED] fsck! On boot it dies... yet drive okay?!?

[Michael Bonert]

On booting my Debian system I get something like:
-
[sbin/fsck.ext3 (1) -- /mnt/mdk] fsck.ext3 -a -C0 /dev/hda11
/dev/hda11: clean, 5765/130048 files, 1425960/2596497 blocks
Reiserfs super block in block 16 on 0x309 of format 3.6 with standard journal
Blocks (total/free): 200800/192582 by 4096 bytes.
Filesystem clear.
Reiserfs super block in block 16 on 0x30a of format 3.6 with standard journal
Blocks (total/free): 200800/192582 by 4096 bytes.
Filesystem clear.
fsck died with exit status 9
File system check failed.
A log is being saved in /var/log/fsck/checkfs if that location is writable.
Please repair the file system manually.
A maintenance shell will now be started.
CONTROL-D will terminate this shell and resume system boot.
Give root password for maintenance (or type Control-D to continue):
-
( 'dmesg' for some reason doesn't record this... it seems to be pouched-- so, I 
was copying this out by hand...)


If I run fsck manually it says my the drive is clean:
-
# fsck.ext3 -a -C0 /dev/hda11
/dev/hda11: clean, 5765/1300480 files, 1425960/2596497 blocks
-

If I remove the drive '/dev/hda11' from the '/etc/fstab' Debian complains about 
'/dev/hda10'.

Based on what I've read 'exit status 9' is a combination of exit status 1 and 
exit status 8, i.e. "File system errors corrected" + "Operational error" -- 
neither of which I really understand.

In any case, I think the error is related to the '/etc/fstab' file somehow.  I 
read somewhere that the order of the entries in the fstab file matter-- how 
though was not explained.  

My '/etc/fstab' is as follows:
-
# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
#
proc/proc   procdefaults0   0
/dev/hda2   /mnt/transfer   vfatrw,user,noexec,umask=   0   
2
/dev/hda3   /boot   ext3defaults0   2
/dev/hda5   /   reiserfs defaults0   1
/dev/hda6   noneswapsw  0   0
/dev/hda7   /usrreiserfs defaults0   2
/dev/hda8   /varreiserfs defaults0   2
/dev/hda9   /tmpreiserfs defaults0   2
/dev/hda10  /home   reiserfs defaults0   2
# /dev/hda11  /mnt/media  reiserfs defaults0   2
# /dev/hda11  /mnt/mdkreiserfs defaults   0   2
/dev/hda11  /mnt/mdkext3defaults0   2
/dev/hdc/media/cdromiso9660 ro,user,noauto  0   0
/dev/fd0/media/floppy   autorw,user,noauto  0   0
/dev/hdc/cdrom  iso9660 ro,user,noauto  0   0
/dev/hda1   /mnt/winxp  ntfsro,user,noexec,umask=0220   0
/dev/sda1   /mnt/external   vfatrw,user,noauto,noexec,umask=   
0   2
/dev/sda2   /mnt/f_external ext3rw,user,noauto,noexec   0   2
/dev/sda3   /mnt/g_external ext3rw,user,noauto,noexec   0   2
-
The '/dev/sda1', '/dev/sda2' and '/dev/sda3' are for mounting 
external hard drives.

What totally doesn't make sense to me is the 'reiserfs' bit.  The drive used to 
be formated with reiserfs... but is no longer.  I suppose it could be related 
to one of the other drives-- but if that's true the way the error message is 
presented is pretty strange.

If someone could enlighten me about the boot sequence related to the mounting 
of drives and the exit status and what it could posssibly mean I'd much 
appreciate it.  Thanks.


System/Hardware

Toshiba Satellite A20 -- A20-31Q: 2.53GHz (PSA20C-0231Q)
Processor: Intel Pentium IV, 2.53GHz
Memory: 512 MB
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Problem setting up a mirror

[Loukas Kalenderidis]

Hi guys,

I've attempted to set up a local Debian mirror on a server here and  
run into some problems. I've installed and configured the anonftpsync  
script as per its instructions, but when I run it the log says the  
following:


rsync: connection unexpectedly closed (0 bytes received so far)  
[receiver]

rsync error: error in rsync protocol data stream (code 12) at io.c(434)
ERROR: Help, something weird happened
mirroring /pool exited with exitcode 12

I've configured the script as follows (comment lines removed):

TO=/debian
RSYNC_HOST=ftp.debian.org
RSYNC_DIR=debian/
LOGDIR=/var/log
ARCH_EXCLUDE="alpha arm hppa hurd-i386 ia64 m68k mipsel mips s390  
sparc sh"

EXCLUDE=
MAILTO=

When I tried using ftp.au.debian.org I actually get a connection  
refused error:


rsync: failed to connect to ftp.au.debian.org: Connection refused (111)
rsync error: error in socket IO (code 10) at clientserver.c(98)
ERROR: Help, something weird happened
mirroring /pool exited with exitcode 10

Can anyone shed some light on this? Have I had too much coffee and  
done something completely stupid?


Thanks,
Loukas


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Re: document processing

[Russell L. Harris]

Douglas Tutty wrote:

I'm revisiting how I make documents.  I have been using lout since I
started with linux in 2000 but it has the following shortcomimgs:

Difficult to change things like margins

Can't make html

plain text output has blank lines that must be edited.

My primary use is for letters and notes but also larger projects.  I
don't like wysiwyg.  I want to be able to make: ps, pdf, txt, html.

Something like DebianDoc seems overkill for a letter.

I want something that is simple, probably a markup language, but without
excessivly long tags or difficulty changing things like margins for
non-html output.

What do people find works well?


LaTeX, in combination with hyperlatex and other packages; I can give you
a list if you are interested.

I think you shall find no better guide to LaTeX than "A Guide to LaTeX"
by Helmut Kopka & Patrick W. Daly, 3rd Edition, Addison-Wesley, 1999,
ISBN 0-201-39825-7.

For correspondence, follow the example in Kopka & Daly to create a
template (a document "class") which suits your needs and taste.  I find
the "letter" class of LaTeX too plain; besides, the wide margins are
wasteful of paper.

Once you have created your template, the production cycle is as follows
(with a document named "letter-1.tex"):

(1) edit "letter-1.tex"

(2) execute "latex letter-1.tex"; this typesets the document and creates
a fresh dvi version of the document; typesetting takes only a few
seconds unless you have a document on the order of a hundred pages, in
which case typesetting may take a minute

(3) execute "xdvi letter-1 &"; this gives you a display of the finished
product (assuming PDF output)

(4) repeat steps 1 and 2 until the document is complete, then jump to
step 5; note that xdvi automatically displays the latest revision

(5) execute "dvips letter-1"; this creates a postscript file for printing

(6) execute "lpr letter-1.ps"; this prints the document

You can change the font size and switch from single column to multiple
columns without revising the template, but the physical dimensions of
the layout and details such as margin with are determined by the templace.

Kopka & Daily also provides detailed guidance and procedures for larger
projects such as books.

RLH


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Re: Petition about the Firefox trademark problem

[Steve Lamb]

Carl Fink wrote:
> You don't use synaptic 

Er, X for package selects?

> or dselect, eh?

Full screen for package selects?  :D

'sides dselect < aptitude's full screen.  :P


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Re: What's your favourite FLOSS?

[Tshepang Lekhonkhobe]

On 10/27/06, Zbigniew Wiech <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Hi, here's my types:

I think it would be useful to categorize users e.g.: desktop home, desktop
office, web admin,


There'll probably be a lot of overlap, but it's a good idea to consider.


 * cd-ripper [ k3b ]


I was not even aware of this functionality. I'll probably throw
sound-juicer which is my favourite in this category.


 * DBMS [ gnumerica ]


Where can I find this?


 * (unreleased) [ hugin ]


But this is available in Debian. What do you mean?


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Re: Classic Gnubie accident

[Paul E Condon]

On Mon, Oct 30, 2006 at 12:14:46AM +, anthony wrote:
> Hello
> 
> The result (as root) of ls -aFI /
> 
> ./ ../ bin/ boot/ cdrom@ dev/ dyne/ etc/ .fonts.cache-1 home/ initrd/
> initrd.img@ lib/ lib64/ lost+found/ media/ mnt/ nano.save opt/ proc/
> root/ root.choice/ sbin/ srv/ sys/ tmp/ usr/ var/ vmlinuz@
> 
> of  -aFI /home
> ./ ../ bin/ boot/ cdrom@ dev/ dyne/ etc/ .fonts.cache-1 home/ initrd/
> initrd.img@ lib/ lib64/ lost+found/ media/ mnt/ nano.save nano.save.1
> opt/ proc/ root/ root.choice/ sbin/ srv/ sys/ tmp/ usr/ var/ vmlinuz@
> 
> I'm not clear what that proves apart from that roots home directory is root.
> As it should be as far as I know.
> 
> telling you that it is something else, which for reasons I don't know is
> rejected
> by ?dm.
> 
> >it was gdm which I have now deleted, but I think there is something wrong
> with all the permissions for >the /home/anthony folder
> 
> I have these permissions on /home/anthony my home folder; my username is
> anthony :
> 
> 
total 80 
drw-rw-r-- 11 anthony anthony 4096 2006-10-24 16:51 audio
drw-rw-r-- 2 anthony anthony 4096 2006-10-19 13:36 background 
drw-rw-r-- 9 anthony anthony 4096 2006-10-19 18:27 com 
drw-rw-r-- 6 anthony anthony 4096 2006-10-10 04:52 current_writing 
drw-rw-r-- 2 anthony anthony 4096 2006-09-22 17:59 Desktop 
-rw-rw-r-- 1 anthony anthony 0 2006-10-27 01:43 divx2pass.log 
drw-rw-r-- 19 anthony anthony 8192 2006-10-26 16:39 dl 
drw-rw-r-- 4 anthony anthony 4096 2006-10-27 02:00 film 
drw-rw-r-- 4 anthony anthony 4096 2006-10-17 22:43 images 
drw-rw-r-- 92 anthony anthony 4096 2006-10-26 12:03 music 
drw-rw-r-- 13 anthony anthony 4096 2006-10-25 18:52 mute 
drw-rw-r-- 2 anthony anthony 4096 2006-07-17 22:06 nicotine 
drw-rw-r-- 5 anthony anthony 4096 2006-10-12 23:29 pd
drw-rw-r-- 3 anthony anthony 4096 2006-10-26 18:02 Polly drw-rw-r-- 15
> anthony anthony 4096 2006-09-11 21:07 Projects_Archive drw-rw-r-- 8
> anthony anthony 8192 2006-10-27 15:32 reading drw-rw-r-- 6 anthony
> anthony 4096 2006-10-29 20:06 tech drw-rw-r-- 4 anthony anthony 4096
> 2006-06-28 10:46 use drw-rw-r-- 9 anthony anthony 4096 2006-09-04 23:29
> writing
> 

Your post doesn't show the permissions or ownership of .dmrc 
I believe it is those permissions that are the problem. For
some reason ?dm does not like them to be anything other than 600, 
neither tighter nor looser. Check them.

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Re: Petition about the Firefox trademark problem

[Carl Fink]

On Sun, Oct 29, 2006 at 07:45:07PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote:

> Hmm, wait, iceweasel will be harder... 2 more letters.

You don't use synaptic or dselect, eh?
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Re: What's your favourite FLOSS?

[Tshepang Lekhonkhobe]

On 10/29/06, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On 10/27/06, Rodrigo Paes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  * misc utilities [ sudo, grep, lsof, top, wget, meld, ssh ]

Nice that you pointed out meld, a graphical diff. I once saw such a
utility on Windows, and always wondered if there was an equivalent in
Debian (the kind of reason why I started this thread).


I tried it yesterday and it rocks. I can't believe I never heard of
it. And by the way, it's far superior to the Windows 'equivalent' I
mention above.


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Re: document processing

[Douglas Tutty]

On Sun, Oct 29, 2006 at 08:00:46PM -0800, Kenward Vaughan wrote:
 ...
> 
> LyX
> 
> 
> Kenward
> -- 
> In a completely rational society, the best of us would aspire to be 
> _teachers_ and the rest of us would have to settle for something less, 
> because passing civilization along from one generation to the next 
> ought to be the highest honor and the highest responsibility anyone 
> could have. - Lee Iacocca
> 
> 
He must have read Plato's Republic.

Doug.


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Re: Mounting Music CD's Causes System Freeze

[Douglas Tutty]

On Sun, Oct 29, 2006 at 07:38:44PM -0800, jantzen wrote:
> > When you say couldn't read DVDs, do you mean that you couldn't mount a
> > data DVD, couldn't watch a movie, or couldn't mount a movie DVD?
> 
> Hi Doug,
> 
> The answer is "yes" :)  The original drive reacted to movie DVDs and DVD-RWs 
> by buzzing and whirring
> for a little while before giving up, sometimes ejecting the disk, but it 
> could read normal CDs and 
> CDRs just fine.  Now, with the replacement, I can read DVD-RWs and CD-Rs, but 
> not music discs. The icon will 
> pop up on the desktop with label "Music Disc" (or something close to that), 
> and within 30 seconds the machine will 
> lock up.  Clicking the icon causes the machine to lock immediately.
> 

Try to isolate the problem.  In case its a desktop (Gnome?) problem,
boot up into a regular shell, not graphics.  Try to mount the CD-R and
DVD-RW and read the filesystem.  Try to play a music CD with a
text-based cdplayer.  If any of this fails, you should get some usefull
error messages.  If it all works then the problem is with Gnome.

Doug.


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Re: document processing

[Kenward Vaughan]

On Sun, Oct 29, 2006 at 09:21:50PM -0500, Douglas Tutty wrote:
> I'm revisiting how I make documents.  I have been using lout since I
> started with linux in 2000 but it has the following shortcomimgs:
> 
>   Difficult to change things like margins
> 
>   Can't make html
> 
>   plain text output has blank lines that must be edited.
> 
> 
> My primary use is for letters and notes but also larger projects.  I
> don't like wysiwyg.  I want to be able to make: ps, pdf, txt, html.
> 
> Something like DebianDoc seems overkill for a letter.
> 
> I want something that is simple, probably a markup language, but without
> excessivly long tags or difficulty changing things like margins for
> non-html output.
> 
> What do people find works well?
...

LyX


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How to reverse a package upgrade?

[rds]

Debian / testing

Hi,

Upgraded "suversion" package to the latest in debian/testing, that is, version:
1.4.0-5 . Once upgrade was completed, it became clear that I should have stuck
with the old version of subversion package, the old version was version
1.3.2-5, I think.

So, now it's highly desireable to go back to the old version of the package. I
tried a couple of things (see below) but aptitude says "Unable to find a
version "..." for the package "subversion"

## aptitude install  subversion=1.3.2-5+b1 --simulate --show-versions

## aptitude install  subversion=1.3.2-5 --simulate --show-versions

Is the old version of the package still available in "testing"? And if not, is
there a way to rollback to a previous verson of the package? I'm using aptitude
from the command line.

Thanks





 

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Re: nvidia problems (Sid dist-upgrade)

[Benjamí Villoslada]

El Diumenge 29 Octubre 2006 20:41, Florian Kulzer va escriure:
> I would try this:

Thanks for this tutorial!

Only one question: what's the reason for those new packages: 
linux-image-2.6.18-1-486 nvidia-kernel-2.6.18-1-486 with nvidia-glx 
nvidia-kernel-source upgrade ?


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Re: Mounting Music CD's Causes System Freeze

[jantzen]

> When you say couldn't read DVDs, do you mean that you couldn't mount a
> data DVD, couldn't watch a movie, or couldn't mount a movie DVD?

Hi Doug,

The answer is "yes" :)  The original drive reacted to movie DVDs and DVD-RWs by 
buzzing and whirring
for a little while before giving up, sometimes ejecting the disk, but it could 
read normal CDs and 
CDRs just fine.  Now, with the replacement, I can read DVD-RWs and CD-Rs, but 
not music discs. The icon will 
pop up on the desktop with label "Music Disc" (or something close to that), and 
within 30 seconds the machine will 
lock up.  Clicking the icon causes the machine to lock immediately.

> On Sun, Oct 29, 2006 at 06:12:57PM -0800, jantzen wrote:
> > Ugh, that would truly be lame.  This is the replacement drive for the
> > original, which I RMA'd because it couldn't read DVDs (didn't crash the
> > system though).  > On Sun, 2006-10-29 at 19:47 -0600, Jason D. Clinton 
> > wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > My system is unable to mount music CDs.  I can read DVD's and CD-Rs,
> > > > however music CD's cause the entire system to lock up when they're
> > > > mounted.  I'm unable even to ping the machine after this occurs.




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Re: Petition about the Firefox trademark problem

[Steve Lamb]

Carl Fink wrote:
> It's easier to install on Debian.  That's all.

How, exactly?  I'm betting that Firefox will just live in non-free and be
just as easy to install as IceWeasel.

aptitude install firefox
aptitude install iceweasel

Hmm, wait, iceweasel will be harder... 2 more letters.

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Re: document processing

[Douglas Tutty]

On Mon, Oct 30, 2006 at 02:26:56PM +1100, Paul Dwerryhouse wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 29, 2006 at 09:21:50PM -0500, Douglas Tutty wrote:
> > My primary use is for letters and notes but also larger projects.  I
> > don't like wysiwyg.  I want to be able to make: ps, pdf, txt, html.
> > 
> > Something like DebianDoc seems overkill for a letter.
> 
> I'd just use docbook (I haven't looked at debiandoc, but at a guess,
> it's probably not all that much different). It's not really overkill if
> you consider that you can just make a template once, and then re-use it
> every time you need to write a letter.
> 
> The XML (or SGML) is not really any more difficult to use than HTML,
> either...


I've had two suggestions of LaTex (thank you).  How does the ease of use
compare?

More broadly,  since LaTex and Tex have been around for so long, why was
docbook (and debiandoc) developed instead of just having specific
templates standardized?



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Re: laptop display

[Wayne Topa]

Mark Grieveson([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said:
> Hello.  I just installed Debian Etch on an old laptop (IBM Thinkpad 
> 770).  It works okay, but the image is half the screen size.  It's a 
> centred box within the larger screen.  How do I make it full size?  I 
> tried "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg", thinking that changing the 
> resolution might help, but, it did not help. 
> I suspect it's something to do with the laptop.  This is the first 
> laptop I've ever had.  All suggestions are appreciated.

I just finished setting up 2 Thinkpad 770's.  It took a lot of
googleing to get a working system running.  

You did not mention which kernel you are running, or which boot
loader, and that matters.

kernel-image-2.4.27-speakeasy will not do 1024x768. I downloaded the
source and it does not allow the framebuffer to be configured. Your 
stuck with
what you have now with.  The kernel-image-2.6.8 will tho.  I tried
the 2.4.27 source from security but it won't compile. You can set up
the framebuffer but I can't get it to compile using kpkg or the old
fashioned way.

If yoy put vga=0x305 in your grub/lilo setup you can get 1024x768 in
kernel-inage-2.6.8.
ie: in Grub
kernel  /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.8y root=/dev/hda1 vga=793 ro

:-) HTH, YMMV, HAND :-)

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Re: Dumb question about unicode

[cothrige]

* Angelina Carlton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
[snip] 
> At the moment mrxvt does not support utf-8 but perhaps it will in the
> near future? If so, you might find rxvt-unicode an adequate interim
> replacement. I would think this is a little simpler than trying to
> remove unicode from your OS. 
> 

Sounds like a good idea.  I will look into it.  I don't like xterm,
but recall rxvt being pretty decent.  I like the tabs, but don't have
to have them, and like you said, for an interim it may work.  Or I can
just live with the half working workarounds I have been using.
I feared it may end up getting ugly trying to change from unicode.

Many thanks,

Patrick


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Re: document processing

[Paul Dwerryhouse]

On Sun, Oct 29, 2006 at 09:21:50PM -0500, Douglas Tutty wrote:
> My primary use is for letters and notes but also larger projects.  I
> don't like wysiwyg.  I want to be able to make: ps, pdf, txt, html.
> 
> Something like DebianDoc seems overkill for a letter.

I'd just use docbook (I haven't looked at debiandoc, but at a guess,
it's probably not all that much different). It's not really overkill if
you consider that you can just make a template once, and then re-use it
every time you need to write a letter.

The XML (or SGML) is not really any more difficult to use than HTML,
either...

Cheers,

Paul

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Re: help

[Tim Post]

On Sun, 2006-10-29 at 18:54 +0200, Yura wrote:
> 
> 

Are you being abducted and e-mailing the Debian lists via SMS for help?

Very, very *bad* idea. Fedora lists handle Kidnappings.

Best,
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Re: document processing

[James Richardson]

Douglas Tutty wrote:
> I'm revisiting how I make documents.  I have been using lout since I
> started with linux in 2000 but it has the following shortcomimgs:
> 
>   Difficult to change things like margins
> 
>   Can't make html
> 
>   plain text output has blank lines that must be edited.
> 
> 
> My primary use is for letters and notes but also larger projects.  I
> don't like wysiwyg.  I want to be able to make: ps, pdf, txt, html.
> 
> Something like DebianDoc seems overkill for a letter.
> 
> I want something that is simple, probably a markup language, but without
> excessivly long tags or difficulty changing things like margins for
> non-html output.
> 
> What do people find works well?

I like LaTeX.


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Re: Mounting Music CD's Causes System Freeze

[Douglas Tutty]

On Sun, Oct 29, 2006 at 06:12:57PM -0800, jantzen wrote:
> Ugh, that would truly be lame.  This is the replacement drive for the
> original, which I RMA'd because it couldn't read DVDs (didn't crash the
> system though).  > On Sun, 2006-10-29 at 19:47 -0600, Jason D. Clinton wrote:
> > > 
> > > My system is unable to mount music CDs.  I can read DVD's and CD-Rs,
> > > however music CD's cause the entire system to lock up when they're
> > > mounted.  I'm unable even to ping the machine after this occurs.

When you say couldn't read DVDs, do you mean that you couldn't mount a
data DVD, couldn't watch a movie, or couldn't mount a movie DVD?



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Re: grub choices

[Mark Grieveson]

Mark Grieveson wrote:

  

> Hello.  I installed ms-dos, and then shrank it, and subsequently
> installed Debian in its own partition.  Debian's grub, however, did not
> see ms-dos as an operating system, and, therefore, did not set up a menu
> choice for it.  How do I go about setting up a menu choice for it in grub?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Mark



As root, edit your /boot/grub/menu.lst file.  Add something like this:

title MS-DOS
root (hd0,0)
makeactive
chainloader +1

Change (hd0,0) to something else if dos isn't on the first partition (hda1).

Roby
  


Thanks.  I'll try that out.

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Re: Mounting Music CD's Causes System Freeze

[jantzen]

Ugh, that would truly be lame.  This is the replacement drive for the
original, which I RMA'd because it couldn't read DVDs (didn't crash the
system though).  Hopefully the fact that this one is failing differently
means it's not something outside of the drive that would require sending
the whole thing back for repair ...  

On Sun, 2006-10-29 at 19:47 -0600, Jason D. Clinton wrote:
> On Sun, 2006-10-29 at 16:42 -0800, jantzen wrote:
> > Hi All,
> > 
> > My system is unable to mount music CDs.  I can read DVD's and CD-Rs,
> > however music CD's cause the entire system to lock up when they're
> > mounted.  I'm unable even to ping the machine after this occurs.
> 
> This is almost certainly hardware failure on the part of the drive.
> Probably related to drive power.
> 


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document processing

[Douglas Tutty]

I'm revisiting how I make documents.  I have been using lout since I
started with linux in 2000 but it has the following shortcomimgs:

Difficult to change things like margins

Can't make html

plain text output has blank lines that must be edited.


My primary use is for letters and notes but also larger projects.  I
don't like wysiwyg.  I want to be able to make: ps, pdf, txt, html.

Something like DebianDoc seems overkill for a letter.

I want something that is simple, probably a markup language, but without
excessivly long tags or difficulty changing things like margins for
non-html output.

What do people find works well?

Thanks,

Doug.


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Re: Dumb question about unicode

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cothrige <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> The big problem is that I don't particularly like xterm and use mrxvt,
> which does not have unicode support yet.  I can work around it mostly,
> but it isn't perfect and still breaks sometimes.  If possible, and
> assuming it won't break things, I would prefer to have some setting
> which will work better with my terminal choice.  But, I am wondering
> how it will affect my system overall to change from unicode and what
> the best way to do that would be.  Since I have never used unicode in
> the past I really have no experience with changing such things, and
> cannot guess just how it may affect other things than my terminal.
> Any thoughts?

It looks like mrxvt has as one of its main features, multiple tabs,
unless this is something you make use of, you might find rxvt-unicode
much nicer, it doesn't do multiple tabs but as its name suggests, it
handles unicode without a problem, and is based on rxvt.

Unicode is not likely to go away, you might not use it today, but there
are many occasions that you might see it in your terminal, in irc,
or when reading web-pages in w3m or lynx for example. 

At the moment mrxvt does not support utf-8 but perhaps it will in the
near future? If so, you might find rxvt-unicode an adequate interim
replacement. I would think this is a little simpler than trying to
remove unicode from your OS. 

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Re: Mounting Music CD's Causes System Freeze (Correction, not mounting)

[jantzen]

Okay, point taken about the term "mount".

What I mean is that inserting a normal CD into the drive causes the
machine to lock up.  I'm not trying to do anything interesting with the
disc like rip tracks off of it; Gnome merely tries to access it and the
machine seizes.

On Sun, 2006-10-29 at 16:43 -0800, jantzen wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> My system is unable to mount music CDs.  I can read DVD's and CD-Rs,
> however music CD's cause the entire system to lock up when they're
> mounted.  I'm unable even to ping the machine after this occurs.
> 
> Debian version: testing
> Kernel: 2.6.17-2-amd64
> DVD-RW: Pioneer DVR-K05
> 
> I've tried tailing /var/log/messages and syslog while mounting the CD,
> but nothing of use pops up before the system seizes.
> 
> Any hints for diagnosis or known issues is much appreciated.
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> David
> 


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Re: argh! linux and floppies

[Douglas Tutty]

On Sun, Oct 29, 2006 at 07:39:07PM -0600, Kent West wrote:
> Kent West wrote:
 
> So I'm leaning toward two bad floppy drives in two machines within my
> house. I'll know more when I can try these floppies in a third and maybe
> fourth Debian box at work tomorrow.

It could be just dirty heads.  You may be able to find a floppy
head-cleaning disk that would be easier than head cleaner on a foam
swab.

Doug.


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Re: Classic Gnubie accident

[Douglas Tutty]

On Sun, Oct 29, 2006 at 01:40:39PM -0800, Jeff Goodman wrote:
> anthony wrote:
> >Hello
> >
> >I'm embarrassed to admit this, but after using various flavours of 
> >debian for over a year 've managed to lock myself out of my /home 
> >directory. When I log in I get the message - your home directory .dmrc 
> >file has the wrong permissions - permissions should be set to 664
> >
> >(its actually the whole /home directory that has the wrong permissions)
> >
> >I have tried logging in to a failsafe terminal and fixing this by using 
> >chown username  /home/anthony/.dmrc
> >
> >the file now has these permissions:
> >
> >-rw-rw-r-- 1 anthony anthony 26 2006-09-21 18:56 /home/anthony/.dmrc
> >
> >but the login message is the same.
> >
> >I am reading the debian manual on file permissions, but I don't see an 
> >obvious way to reset this especially since I only have access to this 
> >file as root. 
> >
> >Any help much appreciated
> >
> Not sure if booting in single-user mode will give you root permission. 
> If not, boot Knoppix, or some other live distro, mount your Debian 
> partition, and do whatever tweaking is necessary.
> 

If booting in single-user mode doesn't work, boot into a shell.

I don't know what boot loader you're using but if you
haven't pre-configured a boot option that gives you a shell,
you need to note the whole kernel boot command line,

then reboot but when you get the boot prompt (lilo, grub, whatever),
enter your kernel boot command line and add init=/bin/sh (or dash if its
installed).

At this point nothing is mounted.  Check the owner/permissions of the
/home mount point and fix as needed.

Then go to /etc/rcS.d and manually start each script in the order listed
with (for example on mine):
./S02mountvirtfs start

until /home is mounted, then you can descend the /home directory and
check/fix owner/permissions until you are happy.

Then you have to manually go through /etc/rc0.d and run the scripts
starting with (on mine)
./S40umountfs start (because it the first letter is 'S')

Then power off and try a single-mode boot.  If that works, try a normal
boot.

Doug.


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Re: argh! linux and floppies

[Kent West]

Kent West wrote:
> Cameron L. Spitzer wrote:
>   
>> Try scraping the mold off with a couple of
>>   fdformat -n /dev/fd0u1440  
>> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/westk> sudo fdformat -n /dev/fd0u1440
> /dev/fd0u1440: No such file or directory
>
>
> Hmm; apparently udev makes this command slightly obsolete now 
>   

Oops; forgot to post the new command:

sudo fdformat -n /dev/.static/dev/fd0u1440

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Re: Mounting Music CD's Causes System Freeze

[Jason D. Clinton]

On Sun, 2006-10-29 at 16:42 -0800, jantzen wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> My system is unable to mount music CDs.  I can read DVD's and CD-Rs,
> however music CD's cause the entire system to lock up when they're
> mounted.  I'm unable even to ping the machine after this occurs.

This is almost certainly hardware failure on the part of the drive.
Probably related to drive power.



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Re: Classic Gnubie accident

[Kent West]

Your listing ran all together; perhaps you posted HTML?

anthony wrote:
> I have these permissions on /home/anthony my home folder; my username
> is anthony :
>
> total 80drw-rw-r-- 11 anthony anthony 4096 2006-10-24 16:51 audio
> drw-rw-r-- 2 anthony anthony 4096 2006-10-19 13:36 background drw-rw-r--
> 9 anthony anthony 4096 2006-10-19 18:27 com drw-rw-r-- 6 anthony anthony
> 4096 2006-10-10 04:52 current_writing drw-rw-r-- 2 anthony anthony 4096
> 2006-09-22 17:59 Desktop -rw-rw-r-- 1 anthony anthony 0 2006-10-27 01:43
> divx2pass.log drw-rw-r-- 19 anthony anthony 8192 2006-10-26 16:39 dl
> drw-rw-r-- 4 anthony anthony 4096 2006-10-27 02:00 film drw-rw-r-- 4
> anthony anthony 4096 2006-10-17 22:43 images drw-rw-r-- 92 anthony
> anthony 4096 2006-10-26 12:03 music drw-rw-r-- 13 anthony anthony 4096
> 2006-10-25 18:52 mute drw-rw-r-- 2 anthony anthony 4096 2006-07-17 22:06
> nicotine drw-rw-r-- 5 anthony anthony 4096 2006-10-12 23:29 pd
> drw-rw-r-- 3 anthony anthony 4096 2006-10-26 18:02 Polly drw-rw-r-- 15
> anthony anthony 4096 2006-09-11 21:07 Projects_Archive drw-rw-r-- 8
> anthony anthony 8192 2006-10-27 15:32 reading drw-rw-r-- 6 anthony
> anthony 4096 2006-10-29 20:06 tech drw-rw-r-- 4 anthony anthony 4096
> 2006-06-28 10:46 use drw-rw-r-- 9 anthony anthony 4096 2006-09-04 23:29
> writing
>
You might try double-checking your UID and the UID listing for your
files, just to make sure your username hasn't gotten confused about who
it is:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/westk> id
uid=1000(westk) gid=1000(westk)
groups=24(cdrom),29(audio),44(video),50(staff),1000(westk)

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/westk> ls -lhn .dmrc
-rw--- 1 1000 1000 26 2005-04-01 22:56 .dmrc



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Re: argh! linux and floppies

[Kent West]

Kent West wrote:
> Kent West wrote:
>   
>> I'm going to try another couple of
>> floppies, and via Knoppix.
>>   
>> 
>
> I just tried yet another floppy, and although it looked like it
> formatted properly, and I was able to copy a few files to it and read
> those files from it, I then did the verify thing again:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/westk> sudo dd if=/dev/fd0 conv=noerror | sum
> dd: reading `/dev/fd0': Input/output error
> 16+0 records in
> 16+0 records out
> 8192 bytes (8.2 kB) copied, 9.51669 seconds, 0.9 kB/s
> dd: reading `/dev/fd0': Input/output error
> 16+0 records in
> 16+0 records out
>
> and on and on and on 
>
> Now it's time to reboot and try Knoppix.
>   

Under Knoppix, floppies #4 & 5 did slightly better, but still generated
errors. The sixth one formatted and verified without errors, and so I
thought maybe I've just got a bunch of bad floppies, but when I tried to
use it in my antiquated floppy-media-based digital camera, the camera
complained about a "Bad Disk". (This camera works fine with floppies
used in a Windows box.)

So I'm leaning toward two bad floppy drives in two machines within my
house. I'll know more when I can try these floppies in a third and maybe
fourth Debian box at work tomorrow.

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solved - renaming LV which is root makes system unbootable

[Clive Menzies]

On (29/10/06 20:11), Douglas Tutty wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 29, 2006 at 10:41:12PM +, Clive Menzies wrote:
> > using lvm lvrename, I renamed all the LVs and changed the entries in
> > /etc/fstab to reflect the new names, rebooted and it hangs because it
> > can't find the / partition.  I suspect that there is somewhere else
> > that I have to change the name in a conf file but I can't find where.  I
> > can mount the root partition when in another system and so I know it's
> > there and I've checked the fstab which seems correct.
> >
> Its the kernel that needs to know where / is.  So your boot loader
> passes the root= parameter.  Change that to match and you should be OK.

D'oh! Of course. In my panic and ignorance I was looking at rebuilding
the initrd.img.  You've saved me from myself :)

Thanks

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Re: why only root can wirte to dos partition and java obfuscate

[Douglas Tutty]

On Sun, Oct 29, 2006 at 04:34:11PM -0800, Serena Cantor wrote:
> I have sarge, hda1 is vfat, I mount it, but only root can write to it.
> 
> How to add write permission to other users? 
> 
vfat doesn't have the concept of users/owners/permissions.  Mount
assigns one uid/gid to the whole vfat file system when it is mounted.
Man mount says that this defaults to the uid/gid of the 'current'
process, which would be that which mounts it, which was root durring
boot.  

To get around this, add a uid= and gid= option to the mount command or
the entry in /etc/fstab.

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Re: Mounting Music CD's Causes System Freeze

[Matt Zagrabelny]

On Sun, 2006-10-29 at 16:42 -0800, jantzen wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> My system is unable to mount music CDs.

neither does mine. :)

cd's dont have a mountable filesystem on them. (nor any kind of
filesystem). they have raw data, so-to-speak.

if you want to use them as files, you need to 'rip' the cd.

type:

apt-cache search rip cd | grep rip

at a prompt to see some tools. i use grip. a majority of the users on
list probably encode with ogg vorbis. i suggest that too. :)

anyhow,

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Re: Mounting Music CD's Causes System Freeze

[Marc Wilson]

On Sun, Oct 29, 2006 at 04:42:58PM -0800, jantzen wrote:
> My system is unable to mount music CDs.

You don't mount an audio CD.  There's no reason to even try, as they don't
have a filesystem on them.

Why trying to apparently hangs up your box, I have no idea.

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Re: renaming LV which is root makes system unbootable

[Douglas Tutty]

On Sun, Oct 29, 2006 at 10:41:12PM +, Clive Menzies wrote:
> Hi
> 
> I've been experimenting with LVM on my laptop to be able to install
> several systems with the flexibility to adjust sizes.  I named the VG
> 'alpha' and the LVs a, b, c and d.  /boot is a real partition, a = /,
> b = /usr, c = /var and d = /tmp and all has been working fine for a
> while now.
> 
> I was planning to adjust the sizes of /usr (too small) and /var (too
> big) prior to setting up another system.  I had the bright idea of
> renaming a,b,c and d to root, usr, var and tmp respectively thinking it
> would be easier to tell what was what once I had more systems on the
> box.
> 
> using lvm lvrename, I renamed all the LVs and changed the entries in
> /etc/fstab to reflect the new names, rebooted and it hangs because it
> can't find the / partition.  I suspect that there is somewhere else
> that I have to change the name in a conf file but I can't find where.  I
> can mount the root partition when in another system and so I know it's
> there and I've checked the fstab which seems correct.
>

Its the kernel that needs to know where / is.  So your boot loader
passes the root= parameter.  Change that to match and you should be OK.

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Re: argh! linux and floppies

[Kent West]

Kent West wrote:
> I'm going to try another couple of
> floppies, and via Knoppix.
>   

I just tried yet another floppy, and although it looked like it
formatted properly, and I was able to copy a few files to it and read
those files from it, I then did the verify thing again:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/westk> sudo dd if=/dev/fd0 conv=noerror | sum
dd: reading `/dev/fd0': Input/output error
16+0 records in
16+0 records out
8192 bytes (8.2 kB) copied, 9.51669 seconds, 0.9 kB/s
dd: reading `/dev/fd0': Input/output error
16+0 records in
16+0 records out

and on and on and on 

Now it's time to reboot and try Knoppix.


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Re: Mounting Music CD's Causes System Freeze

[Paul Dwerryhouse]

On Sun, Oct 29, 2006 at 04:42:58PM -0800, jantzen wrote:
> My system is unable to mount music CDs.  I can read DVD's and CD-Rs,
> however music CD's cause the entire system to lock up when they're
> mounted.  

Music CDs can't be mounted; they don't have a filesystem on them.

You can either play them with a music application (eg, kcd) or read the
data and convert to file (eg, grip).

Cheers,

Paul.

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Re: argh! linux and floppies

[Douglas Tutty]

On Sun, Oct 29, 2006 at 06:42:33PM -0600, Kent West wrote:
> > /dev/fd0/floppyautouser,noauto00
> > Its the 'auto' that's the problem.  
> > Try mounting it manually to determine what types to put
> > here.
> 
> You mean like:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/westk> sudo mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 mnt
> FAT: invalid media value (0xf6)
> VFS: Can't find a valid FAT filesystem on dev fd0.
> 
> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/fd0,
>missing codepage or other error
>In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
>dmesg | tail  or so
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/westk> dmesg | tail
> floppy0: data CRC error: track 3, head 0, sector 5, size 2
> end_request: I/O error, dev fd0, sector 112
> FAT: invalid media value (0xf6)
> VFS: Can't find a valid FAT filesystem on dev fd0.

Could it be type msdos not vfat?  Does anyone know what media value 0xf6
is?

Does anyone know if Windows checks the CRC data?  If it doesn't perhaps
its not finding errors that Linux does.  

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Re: Dumb question about unicode

[cothrige]

* Justin Piszcz ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> 
> One reason for it is to display e-mails correctly in pine, mind you, it 
> needs to be patched and configured with UTF8 support and you need to run 
> xterm -u8 but then at least e-mails written in the UTF8 charset look 
> correct :)
> 
> Justin.
> 
> 

The big problem is that I don't particularly like xterm and use mrxvt,
which does not have unicode support yet.  I can work around it mostly,
but it isn't perfect and still breaks sometimes.  If possible, and
assuming it won't break things, I would prefer to have some setting
which will work better with my terminal choice.  But, I am wondering
how it will affect my system overall to change from unicode and what
the best way to do that would be.  Since I have never used unicode in
the past I really have no experience with changing such things, and
cannot guess just how it may affect other things than my terminal.
Any thoughts?

Many thanks,

Patrick


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Mounting Music CD's Causes System Freeze

[jantzen]

Hi All,

My system is unable to mount music CDs.  I can read DVD's and CD-Rs,
however music CD's cause the entire system to lock up when they're
mounted.  I'm unable even to ping the machine after this occurs.

Debian version: testing
Kernel: 2.6.17-2-amd64
DVD-RW: Pioneer DVR-K05

I've tried tailing /var/log/messages and syslog while mounting the CD,
but nothing of use pops up before the system seizes.

Any hints for diagnosis or known issues is much appreciated.

Thanks in advance,
David



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Re: argh! linux and floppies

[Kent West]

Cameron L. Spitzer wrote:
> Could be the media.
>   
> Try scraping the mold off with a couple of
>   fdformat -n /dev/fd0u1440
>   
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/westk> sudo fdformat -n /dev/fd0u1440
/dev/fd0u1440: No such file or directory


Hmm; apparently udev makes this command slightly obsolete now 

> Then check it for errors with
>   dd if=/dev/fd0 conv=noerror | sum
>   
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/westk> sudo dd if=/dev/fd0 conv=noerror | sum
dd: reading `/dev/fd0': Input/output error
0+0 records in
0+0 records out
0 bytes (0 B) copied, 5.73893 seconds, 0.0 kB/s
dd: reading `/dev/fd0': Input/output error
0+0 records in
0+0 records out
0 bytes (0 B) copied, 6.53883 seconds, 0.0 kB/s
dd: reading `/dev/fd0': Input/output error
0+0 records in
0+0 records out
0 bytes (0 B) copied, 7.33908 seconds, 0.0 kB/s
dd: reading `/dev/fd0': Input/output error
0+0 records in

and on and on and on.


> Try cleaning the head in the drive with a qtip and
> rubbing alcohol.
>   

This might do some good, but that'll have to wait until I have those
things available. In the meanwhile, I'm going to try another couple of
floppies, and via Knoppix.


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Re: Dumb question about unicode

[Justin Piszcz]

On Sun, 29 Oct 2006, cothrige wrote:

> Okay, I really am an idiot when it comes to unicode.  More than that
> if you ask my wife.  But, I have been wondering why I need unicode at
> all?  I never used it, knowingly, before Debian but I noticed that it
> is apparently the default now.  So, some apps are acting funny and I
> am wondering if I absolutely need to keep unicode support as default,
> and if not, how can I change it?
> 
> My main trouble is mrxvt, which does not have unicode support.  If I
> run mutt in that terminal, which is my favorite, it will not draw the
> trees right.  Instead of nice little lines and arrows, it now produces
> junk looking characters.  Very ugly indeed.  In the past it always
> looked fine, without any unicode stuff, and now it is not so nice.
> There is a workaround given at the mrxvt site which sometimes works,
> depending on how I invoke the terminal, but it is awkward at best and
> is not consistent in its results.  And so I am wondering how essential
> or needed unicode is, and if not completely essential, how do I change
> to something else?
> 
> Many thanks,
> 
> Patrick
> 
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One reason for it is to display e-mails correctly in pine, mind you, it 
needs to be patched and configured with UTF8 support and you need to run 
xterm -u8 but then at least e-mails written in the UTF8 charset look 
correct :)

Justin.


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Re: argh! linux and floppies

[Kent West]

Douglas Tutty wrote:
> If you look in your /etc/fstab for the entry under floppy, you'll
> probably see something like:
>
> /dev/fd0/floppyautouser,noauto00
>
> Its the 'auto' that's the problem.  
>   
> Try mounting it manually to determine what types to put
> here.
>   

You mean like:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/westk> sudo mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 mnt
FAT: invalid media value (0xf6)
VFS: Can't find a valid FAT filesystem on dev fd0.

mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/fd0,
   missing codepage or other error
   In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
   dmesg | tail  or so

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/westk> dmesg | tail
floppy0: data CRC error: track 3, head 0, sector 5, size 2
end_request: I/O error, dev fd0, sector 112
floppy0: data CRC error: track 3, head 0, sector 14, size 2
floppy0: data CRC error: track 3, head 0, sector 14, size 2
end_request: I/O error, dev fd0, sector 121
floppy0: sector not found: track 0, head 0, sector 3, size 2
floppy0: sector not found: track 0, head 0, sector 3, size 2
end_request: I/O error, dev fd0, sector 2
FAT: invalid media value (0xf6)
VFS: Can't find a valid FAT filesystem on dev fd0.

Granted, I only tried on three floppies, on two different machines, but
one of the floppies was then taken to a Windows machine where it worked
fine.

It could be that both of my floppy drives have died since I last used
floppies, but that seems a mite suspicious.

I plan on trying these floppies on another couple of Debian boxes at
work tomorrow.

And I think I'll boot up this machine from Knoppix and see how it
handles these floppies. More info later 


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Re: How to vnc to not log?

[Mumia W..]

On 10/29/2006 01:11 PM, Steve Lamb wrote:

Anyone know how to get VNC to not log it's errors?  I have gotten into the
habit of using VNC as my main interface on my server machine.  Every few weeks
the log fills up root forcing me to shut down VNC so it'll close the log file
and allow it to be deleted.  As you can see, a tad large...

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/.vnc} ls -lh
total 4.5G
-rw--- 1 grey shared8 2004-12-15 17:31 passwd
-rw-r--r-- 1 grey shared 1.8K 2004-12-15 17:31 teleute:10.log
-rw-r--r-- 1 grey shared 2.0K 2004-12-15 17:31 teleute:11.log
-rw-r--r-- 1 grey shared  90K 2004-12-15 17:31 teleute:16.log
-rw-r--r-- 1 grey shared6 2004-12-15 17:31 teleute:16.pid
-rw-r--r-- 1 grey shared 4.5G 2006-10-29 11:04 teleute.dmiyu.org:10.log
-rw-r--r-- 1 grey shared5 2006-09-19 19:13 teleute.dmiyu.org:10.pid
-rw-r--r-- 1 grey shared 2.9K 2005-10-21 03:44 teleute.dmiyu.org:12.log
-rwxr-xr-x 1 grey shared  169 2005-10-21 06:52 xstartup

4.5Gb for a log file I never even look at.  When I check the log file to
see what is going on it is pretty much the same line over and over:
DeliverEventsToWindow: client index is zero for PWin 0x81ca4f8
DeliverEventsToWindow: client index is zero for PWin 0x81ca4f8

Given I have seen no errors that have blown up anything I use it's not
critical, it's not needed, it's just annoying the crap outta me.  Any clues?
I couldn't find an obvious answer either in the man pages or on a Google
search the last time I had to shut down my VNC server (a few weeks ago).




I don't know how to get vnc not to log, but if there is no way to stop 
it, I think you can either echo an empty string to the log file (in a 
cronjob), or you can put the log file onto a small ram disk (using 
either symbolic links or mount). Most probably vnc will not freeze or 
crash when the ram disk is filled to capacity.


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Re: Multiple firewall profiles with shorewall

[Douglas Tutty]

On Sun, Oct 29, 2006 at 07:33:31PM +, Wackojacko wrote:
> >celejar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Hi,
> >>
> >>I use shorewall to create a local (personal) firewall on my sid
> >>machine. I have a wireless nic which is sometimes connected to my
> >>private wireless network which I control and can secure (with WPA or
> >>WPA2), and sometimes to other networks which are insecure (eg. airport
> >>hotspot). I use ifscheme to manage the different network
> >>configurations, and I obviously have different security assumptions
> >>about the two situations. What is the standard way to have shorewall
> >>treat the two situations differently? I'm using the Madwifi driver, so
> >>a simple trick is to simply bring up the card as ath0 on the private
> >>network and ath1 on the public network and to write shorewall config
> >>files accordingly, but this is a bit of a kludge and not portable to
> >>other drivers.
> >>The most straightforward technique I can think of is to call pre-up
> >>scripts in /etc/network/interfaces that will manipulate the shorewall
> >>config files (eg. modify /etc/shorewall/zones , policy, and/or rules)
> >>but I'm wondering if there's a more standard way to do this - it seems
> >>like a fairly common requirement.
> >

What about having two sets of shorwall config files (where they would
differ for the two setups), use a .loc and .pub extension.  Then write a
script that copies the .loc or .pub files to their regular names, then
reruns shorewall.

Doug.





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why only root can wirte to dos partition and java obfuscate

[Serena Cantor]

I have sarge, hda1 is vfat, I mount it, but only root can write to it.

How to add write permission to other users? 

BTW is there any java obfuscate?


 

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Re: grub choices

[Roby]

Mark Grieveson wrote:

> Hello.  I installed ms-dos, and then shrank it, and subsequently
> installed Debian in its own partition.  Debian's grub, however, did not
> see ms-dos as an operating system, and, therefore, did not set up a menu
> choice for it.  How do I go about setting up a menu choice for it in grub?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Mark

As root, edit your /boot/grub/menu.lst file.  Add something like this:

title MS-DOS
root (hd0,0)
makeactive
chainloader +1

Change (hd0,0) to something else if dos isn't on the first partition (hda1).

Roby


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KDE/Kprinter and Postscript

[Anthony M Simonelli]

At my company, we have a server called a Fax*Star.  This server runs on 
Windows XP and shares a virtual printer via SMB.  The Windows driver used 
is 'Generic / Text Only' and does not accept any Postscript jobs.  I'm trying 
to send a text file to this printer using CUPS/KDE3.5/Etch using the 
textonly.ppd driver from a Fedora package.

The problem I'm running into is that every KDE application seems to print it's 
output as Postscript which will not work with this virtual printer.  I have 
found that using the command 

lpr -P FaxStar -h -l  textfile.txt

works.  I decided to try setting up a virtual printer with KDE's Printer 
Manager to send the output to this command, but it fails because the output 
from the KDE application (in this case KWrite) is in Postscript.  I there any 
way to get a KDE application to print plain text instead of formating it to 
plain text?

Re: Classic Gnubie accident

[anthony]

Hello The result (as root) of ls -aFI /

./ ../ bin/ boot/ cdrom@ dev/ dyne/ etc/ .fonts.cache-1 home/ initrd/
initrd.img@ lib/ lib64/ lost+found/ media/ mnt/ nano.save opt/ proc/
root/ root.choice/ sbin/ srv/ sys/ tmp/ usr/ var/ vmlinuz@

of  -aFI /home
./ ../ bin/ boot/ cdrom@ dev/ dyne/ etc/ .fonts.cache-1 home/ initrd/
initrd.img@ lib/ lib64/ lost+found/ media/ mnt/ nano.save nano.save.1
opt/ proc/ root/ root.choice/ sbin/ srv/ sys/ tmp/ usr/ var/ vmlinuz@I'm not clear what that proves apart from that roots home directory is root. As it should be as far as I know.telling you that it is something else, which for reasons I don't know is rejected
by ?dm.>it was gdm which I have now deleted, but I think there is something wrong with all the permissions for >the /home/anthony folder I have these permissions on /home/anthony my home folder; my username is anthony : 
total 80 drw-rw-r-- 11 anthony anthony 4096 2006-10-24 16:51 audiodrw-rw-r-- 2 anthony anthony 4096 2006-10-19 13:36 background drw-rw-r--9 anthony anthony 4096 2006-10-19 18:27 com drw-rw-r-- 6 anthony anthony
4096 2006-10-10 04:52 current_writing drw-rw-r-- 2 anthony anthony 40962006-09-22 17:59 Desktop -rw-rw-r-- 1 anthony anthony 0 2006-10-27 01:43divx2pass.log drw-rw-r-- 19 anthony anthony 8192 2006-10-26 16:39 dl
drw-rw-r-- 4 anthony anthony 4096 2006-10-27 02:00 film drw-rw-r-- 4anthony anthony 4096 2006-10-17 22:43 images drw-rw-r-- 92 anthonyanthony 4096 2006-10-26 12:03 music drw-rw-r-- 13 anthony anthony 40962006-10-25 18:52 mute drw-rw-r-- 2 anthony anthony 4096 2006-07-17 22:06
nicotine drw-rw-r-- 5 anthony anthony 4096 2006-10-12 23:29 pddrw-rw-r-- 3 anthony anthony 4096 2006-10-26 18:02 Polly drw-rw-r-- 15anthony anthony 4096 2006-09-11 21:07 Projects_Archive drw-rw-r-- 8anthony anthony 8192 2006-10-27 15:32 reading drw-rw-r-- 6 anthony
anthony 4096 2006-10-29 20:06 tech drw-rw-r-- 4 anthony anthony 40962006-06-28 10:46 use drw-rw-r-- 9 anthony anthony 4096 2006-09-04 23:29writing
On 10/29/06, Paul E Condon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Sun, Oct 29, 2006 at 05:51:43PM -0500, Kevin Mark wrote:> On Sun, Oct 29, 2006 at 09:21:19PM +, anthony wrote:> > Hello> >> > I'm embarrassed to admit this, but after using various flavours of debian for
> > over a year 've managed to lock myself out of my /home directory. When I log in> > I get the message - your home directory .dmrc file has the wrong permissions ->Message is about wrong permissions on file, .dmrc
On your system this should owner anthony:anthony and permissions 600. Message istelling you that it is something else, which for reasons I don't know is rejectedby ?dm.--Paul E Condon
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Re: Etch Upgrade to Apache2 seems to have screwed tomcat

[Alan Chandler]

On Sunday 29 October 2006 22:40, Alan Chandler wrote:
> and looking in /etc/apache2/modes-enabled/jk.conf I have
>
> JkWorkersFile /etc/apache2/workers.properties
> JkLogFile /var/log/apache2/mod_jk.log
> JkLogLevelinfo
> JkMountFile /etc/apache2/urimap.properties

Its looking increasing as though libapache2-mod-jk is not recognising the 
JkMountFile directive.  I can add JkMount directives for a uri in the urimap 
and this particular uri then starts working.

> JkLogStampFormat "[%a %b %d %H:%M:%S %Y] "
> JkRequestLogFormat "%U%q"
> JkOptions +ForwardDirectories
> JkShmFile /var/log/apache2/jk-runtime-status
>
> and /etc/apache2/urimap.properties
>
> has amongst other lines this
>
> /blog/app=tomcat

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grub choices

[Mark Grieveson]

Hello.  I installed ms-dos, and then shrank it, and subsequently 
installed Debian in its own partition.  Debian's grub, however, did not 
see ms-dos as an operating system, and, therefore, did not set up a menu 
choice for it.  How do I go about setting up a menu choice for it in grub?


Thanks,

Mark


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Re: yikes

[Shawn Lamson]

On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 18:05:27 -0500
Mark Grieveson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Holy scare the crap outta me!  I normally keep my computer on, because I 
> run a web server.  But today I turned it off, and when I went to turn it 
> on, the xserver wouldn't start.  Yikes.  However, given that I have an 
> ati card, I found the right package, and installed it via aptitude 
> (xserver-xorg-video-ati).  Now, for some reason, I've got a plug icon 
> letting me know that my computer is running on ac power.  Hmm.

the joy of running testing/unstable :)


> 
> Mark
> 
> 


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Re: Classic Gnubie accident

[Paul E Condon]

On Sun, Oct 29, 2006 at 05:51:43PM -0500, Kevin Mark wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 29, 2006 at 09:21:19PM +, anthony wrote:
> > Hello
> > 
> > I'm embarrassed to admit this, but after using various flavours of debian 
> > for
> > over a year 've managed to lock myself out of my /home directory. When I 
> > log in
> > I get the message - your home directory .dmrc file has the wrong 
> > permissions -
> 

Message is about wrong permissions on file, .dmrc
On your system this should owner anthony:anthony and permissions 600. Message is
telling you that it is something else, which for reasons I don't know is 
rejected
by ?dm. 

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Re: What's your favourite FLOSS?

[cothrige]

* Miles Bader ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> cothrige <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > And new items:
> >  * (games) [ ADOM, nethack ]
> >  * (news) [ slrn, nget ]
> 
> Is adom free software now?!  Last I remember, it was free-as-in-beer
> only, no sources available.
> 
> -Miles
> 

Hmmm.  Now that I think about it, I don't recall seeing any sources.
It probably is not free, and I will retract that one and just leave
nethack.  Too bad though, as I enjoy ADOM a bit more.

Patrick


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Re: postgresql database file names

[Paul E Condon]

On Sun, Oct 29, 2006 at 12:18:54PM -0500, Tony Heal wrote:
> OK, how do you determine the disk size of a database. I have a var partition
> that is at 90% capacity and growing, and there are some databases I can
> remove, but it would be easier if I knew which DB's were taking up what disk
> space.

I hope you can make backups of these databases. If not solve that problem first.
Then dump each database separately, and determine the file sizes of each dump.
I've never done it, so YMMv.
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Re: respectful slightly dumb question about 64 bit computing.....

[Ron Johnson]

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On 10/29/06 16:55, Douglas Tutty wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 29, 2006 at 01:22:49PM +, Michael Fothergill wrote:
[snip]
> As someone who is migrating from a 486 with 32 MB ram to an AMD Athlon
> with 1 GB ram, I'll be interested in this discussion.  In my own
> experience, anything over 16 MB is what Mozilla wastes as you use it.
> Any time I need fast or small, I go to Fortran 77.

1GB is well within 32-bit address space, and so thus isn't really
"large memory".

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Re: Upgrade to Apache2

[Liam O'Toole]

On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 12:55:46 -0400
Daniel D Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> With the update to Apache2 in Testing, I got bit by a couple of
> things.
> 
> The first issue is discussed in bug 392701.  I have websvn installed
> and am getting an error on AuthUserFile.  I have both authz_host.load
> and authz_user.load linked in my mods-enabled directory.  What other
> modules do I need to support AuthUserFile?

Sorry, no idea.

> 
> Second, my son runs his Football Fantasy League on my server.  He
> creates his pages in MS Word (no comments please!  I'm working on
> it! :-) , saves them as a word page and FTPs them to the site.  Since
> the upgrade, lots of punctuation characters (tacs, apostrophes, etc.)
> are showing up as inverted question marks.  These pages were fine
> before the update.  Is Apache using a different codepage or something
> now?  Can I switch back?

Since upgrading to 2.2 I noticed the new
file /etc/apache2/conf.d/charset. I would start by commenting out its
contents.

> 
> Thanks in advance for any assistance.
> 
> 

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yikes

[Mark Grieveson]

Holy scare the crap outta me!  I normally keep my computer on, because I 
run a web server.  But today I turned it off, and when I went to turn it 
on, the xserver wouldn't start.  Yikes.  However, given that I have an 
ati card, I found the right package, and installed it via aptitude 
(xserver-xorg-video-ati).  Now, for some reason, I've got a plug icon 
letting me know that my computer is running on ac power.  Hmm.


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Re: Etch Upgrade to Apache2 seems to have screwed tomcat

[Alan Chandler]

On Sunday 29 October 2006 22:40, Alan Chandler wrote:
> I have got over most of the issues, but one is completely foxing me.  That
> is getting requests passed through to tomcat.

I should say, that prior to the upgrade I had downloaded and installed a 
binary verision of mod_jk from the apache web site.  After the upgrade apache 
wouldn't start as it reported an some form of incompatibility between the mod 
and the apache version.  So I have installed the libapache2-mod-jk package 
from the debian package repository.

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Re: argh! linux and floppies

[Cameron L. Spitzer]

[This message has also been posted to linux.debian.user.]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Kent West wrote:
> I have just 30 minutes ago tried to use three 3.5" floppies on two
> different machines, and can't get anywhere with them. I decided to put
> it on the back burner and read my email when I came across your post.

Could be the media.
I have twenty year old floppy disks with no defects.
Most floppies I've bought in the last ten years went bad
within eighteen months.  The old ones had a fungicide
to protect the glue from mold.  They don't seem to do
that any more.  I stopped buying new floppies when I got a
box where a third had to be scraped before they
would work.  Surplus places have old ones, unsold antique
software still in the EULA wrap.  Those work better.

Try scraping the mold off with a couple of
  fdformat -n /dev/fd0u1440
passes before you try to write real data it.
Then check it for errors with
  dd if=/dev/fd0 conv=noerror | sum
or something.
But if you salvage a bad disk that way, don't expect the
data on it to last more than a week or two.
Try cleaning the head in the drive with a qtip and
rubbing alcohol.

> I've tried cfdisk and fdisk to look at the partition(s) (do these work
> on floppies?), and mformat, and mkfs.vfat, and fdformat, and all I ever

There's a master boot record on the first sector.
But the bytes at the end where the partition table
goes aren't used.

> get is something like "could not get geometry of device" or "Problem
> reading cylinder 0" or "Unable to read /dev/fd0", etc.

Fdisk and mformat are failing because they read before
writing anything.  An old floppy (more than a month
since you wrote it last) has faded.  You need to write a
new set of sector marks with fdformat before it will
read reliably.  Cfdisk will still fail because there's
no "geometry" to get.


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Re: cd-rom iso image with /etc/apt/sources.list, local repository

[Douglas Tutty]

On Sun, Oct 29, 2006 at 03:48:57AM -0600, Russell L. Harris wrote:
> Is it possible to configure /etc/apt/sources.list to read a CD-ROM or 
> DVD ISO image in place of a physical CD-ROM?  I am thinking in terms of 
> mounting the ISO image with the "loop" option of mount, as I do when 
> using jigdo-lite to update the image.
> 
> Actually, instead of updating a dozen or more CD-ROM images, I switched 
> over to DVD images, inasmuch as there are only three.  I do not plan to 
> burn DVDs, but this does provide me a local copy of the Debian i386 
> "testing" repository with little effort.
> 
> I would prefer to switch from DVD images to a Debian i386 "testing" 
> repository within the LAN.  Can a local repository be updated as easily 
> as CD-ROM and DVD images can be updated with jidgo-lite?  Is there a 
> simple HOWTO for a single-architecture, single-distribution local 
> repository?

Re: mounting iso images:  read the apt-howto and look for setting up a
mounted source so that it doesn't tell you what cd to insert and press
enter.

I think a better way is to use an actual apt-proxy, approx,
apt-cacher, or apt-mirror system.
This saves you from updating the whole DVD iso files unless you want to
create a complete local mirror, which apt-mirror will do for you.



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Re: laptop display

[Douglas Tutty]

On Sun, Oct 29, 2006 at 04:02:04AM -0500, Mark Grieveson wrote:
> Hello.  I just installed Debian Etch on an old laptop (IBM Thinkpad 
> 770).  It works okay, but the image is half the screen size.  It's a 
> centred box within the larger screen.  How do I make it full size?  I 
> tried "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg", thinking that changing the 
> resolution might help, but, it did not help. 
> I suspect it's something to do with the laptop.  This is the first 
> laptop I've ever had.  All suggestions are appreciated.
> 

I used to have an old Thinkpad (until the screen died when the tent I
was camping in got hit by lightening).  If I remember right, its
something in the bios setup __and__ a function of if its in dual-head
mode displaying both to the lid screen __and__ the VGA connector.
There's a function button on the screen to address the latter, try
cycling through that and see if it fixes it.

What happens on a text screen (non X).  If its also small then
reconfiguring xorg won't help.

Doug.


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Re: respectful slightly dumb question about 64 bit computing.....

[Douglas Tutty]

On Sun, Oct 29, 2006 at 01:22:49PM +, Michael Fothergill wrote:
 
> I have been reading about the benefits of 64 bit computing on the web.  In 
> the old days I used to run some molecular dynamics calculations on a DEC 
> Alpha with a 64 bit chip in it and the developer there did get a definite 
> boost from it.
> 
 
> "The emergence of the 64-bit architecture effectively increases the memory 
> ceiling to 264 addresses, equivalent to 17,179,869,184 gigabytes or 16 
> exabytes of RAM. 

> A recent Linux kernel (version 2.6.16) can be compiled with support
> for up to 64 gigabytes of memory."
> 
> OK, here's the dumb question:
> 
> Let's suppose that money was no object and we managed in some
> technical feat to construct a computer that could have a 64 bit chip
> in it that would be properly hooked up to 16 exabytes of RAM.
> 
> If I had such a computer in my possession and I offered to donate to
> the Debian community how would it respond?
> 
> Would it say
> 
 
> 2. We would be delighted to receive the donated computer.  We think
> that we could configure our Debian OS to run on it and yes, there
> would be serious computing problems it could address.
> 
> What sorts of problems would they be?  I suppose it could one that
> would require e.g. a huge database.
> 
> The other question I have is:  how much performance increase in
> database applications is typicall seen using 64 bit computing?
> 

As someone who is migrating from a 486 with 32 MB ram to an AMD Athlon
with 1 GB ram, I'll be interested in this discussion.  In my own
experience, anything over 16 MB is what Mozilla wastes as you use it.
Any time I need fast or small, I go to Fortran 77.


Seriously, this is the realm of high-performance computing.  At that
level, its likely that beyond a certain amount of memory, its faster to
add a processor with its own memory (or a cluster node with its own
processors, memory and possibly disks) than to just pile the memory onto
one processor (or a multi-core).  Also, the programmes written to solve
the problem tend to be hardware specific, i.e. the programmer will only
try to use the memory available.

Your scenario suggests a large-data-set problem that does not
paralellize.  

I suppose this could be an extremly huge database where you want
everything in memory for fast access.



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Re: Classic Gnubie accident

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On 10/29/06 16:22, anthony wrote:
> I can get root access thru the failsafe terminal mode, but I still don't
> really get what is up. if I changed the permissions as myself, why
> cannot reset them as myself or as root?

What exactly did you chown and/or chmod on?

/home should be owned by root:root and be 755.

/home/anthony should similarly be anthony:anthony 755.

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Re: Classic Gnubie accident

[Kevin Mark]

On Sun, Oct 29, 2006 at 09:21:19PM +, anthony wrote:
> Hello
> 
> I'm embarrassed to admit this, but after using various flavours of debian for
> over a year 've managed to lock myself out of my /home directory. When I log 
> in
> I get the message - your home directory .dmrc file has the wrong permissions -

why is your home directory not '/home/anthony'?

> permissions should be set to 664
> 
> (its actually the whole /home directory that has the wrong permissions)
> 
> I have tried logging in to a failsafe terminal and fixing this by using chown
> username  /home/anthony/.dmrc
> 
> the file now has these permissions:
> 
> -rw-rw-r-- 1 anthony anthony 26 2006-09-21 18:56 /home/anthony/.dmrc
> 
> but the login message is the same.
> 
> I am reading the debian manual on file permissions, but I don't see an obvious
> way to reset this especially since I only have access to this file as root. 
> 
> Any help much appreciated

exactly what did you do that lead to this?
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renaming LV which is root makes system unbootable

[Clive Menzies]

Hi

I've done something rather silly.

I've been experimenting with LVM on my laptop to be able to install
several systems with the flexibility to adjust sizes.  I named the VG
'alpha' and the LVs a, b, c and d.  /boot is a real partition, a = /,
b = /usr, c = /var and d = /tmp and all has been working fine for a
while now.

I was planning to adjust the sizes of /usr (too small) and /var (too
big) prior to setting up another system.  I had the bright idea of
renaming a,b,c and d to root, usr, var and tmp respectively thinking it
would be easier to tell what was what once I had more systems on the
box.

using lvm lvrename, I renamed all the LVs and changed the entries in
/etc/fstab to reflect the new names, rebooted and it hangs because it
can't find the / partition.  I suspect that there is somewhere else
that I have to change the name in a conf file but I can't find where.  I
can mount the root partition when in another system and so I know it's
there and I've checked the fstab which seems correct.

Any ideas anyone?

Thanks

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Etch Upgrade to Apache2 seems to have screwed tomcat

[Alan Chandler]

I just did an upgrade of my etch based server, and as part of the process it 
seems to have completely screwed my apache setup.

I have got over most of the issues, but one is completely foxing me.  That is 
getting requests passed through to tomcat.

apache2.conf has the following lines to enable modules

# Include module configuration:
Include /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/*.load
Include /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/*.conf

and looking in /etc/apache2/modes-enabled/jk.conf I have

JkWorkersFile /etc/apache2/workers.properties
JkLogFile /var/log/apache2/mod_jk.log
JkLogLevelinfo
JkMountFile /etc/apache2/urimap.properties
JkLogStampFormat "[%a %b %d %H:%M:%S %Y] "
JkRequestLogFormat "%U%q"
JkOptions +ForwardDirectories
JkShmFile /var/log/apache2/jk-runtime-status

and /etc/apache2/urimap.properties

has amongst other lines this

/blog/app=tomcat

where the workers.properties file defines tomcat
worker.list=tomcat

worker.tomcat.type=ajp13
worker.tomcat.host=appserv.home
worker.tomcat.port=8009
worker.tomcat.connect_timeout=10

So when I call up my website with a url of www.chandlerfamily/blog/app

I would expect tomcat to be passed that url rather than apache attempt to look 
it up. I get this is an unkown url error when I do try and access it, with 
the log having 
[Sun Oct 29 22:19:59 2006] [error] [client 192.168.0.21] File does not 
exist: /var/lib/tomcat5/webapps/blog/app
[Sun Oct 29 22:23:22 2006] [error] [client 192.168.0.21] File does not 
exist: /var/lib/tomcat5/webapps/blog/app

which implies to me that its attempting to look for that file rather than 
passing it thought to tomcat.

This was working before the upgrade, so any ideas where to look now?


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Re: Iomega CD-RW driver for Linux

[Olafur Jens Sigurdsson]

Þann 2006-10-29, 19:20:37 (-0300) skrifaði Alejandro:
> Hi all, I've got an Iomega CD-RW USB connected to my Debian but I can't 
> find any driver in Internet to download. Iomega official web site says 
> that there is no support for LinuxDo you have any idea how I can do 
> to work with this device in Linux ??? Or any similar driver that works 
> fine ???

Try out the lsusb command and search the internet for the ID number
that lsusb gives you.

HTH

Oli


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Re: Classic Gnubie accident

[anthony]

I can get root access thru the failsafe terminal mode, but I still don't really get what is up. if I changed the permissions as myself, why cannot reset them as myself or as root?I don't have a cd drive, but I can boot from usb. 
So far it sounds like the easiest thing is to make another user cp all the files I want and delete myselfbut I figure there must be a shorter way aroundOn 10/29/06, 
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Iomega CD-RW driver for Linux

[Alejandro]

Hi all, I've got an Iomega CD-RW USB connected to my Debian but I can't 
find any driver in Internet to download. Iomega official web site says 
that there is no support for LinuxDo you have any idea how I can do 
to work with this device in Linux ??? Or any similar driver that works 
fine ???


Thank you,

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Re: What's your favourite FLOSS?

[Miles Bader]

cothrige <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> And new items:
>  * (games) [ ADOM, nethack ]
>  * (news) [ slrn, nget ]

Is adom free software now?!  Last I remember, it was free-as-in-beer
only, no sources available.

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Re: Classic Gnubie accident

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> Ron Johnson:
>> On 10/29/06 15:21, anthony wrote:
[snip]
>> And then purge xdm, gdm, kdm and log in like a Real Geek.
> 
> Real geeks may still have their terminals running under X. :)

startx is your friend.

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Re: Classic Gnubie accident

[Jeff Goodman]

anthony wrote:

Hello

I'm embarrassed to admit this, but after using various flavours of 
debian for over a year 've managed to lock myself out of my /home 
directory. When I log in I get the message - your home directory .dmrc 
file has the wrong permissions - permissions should be set to 664


(its actually the whole /home directory that has the wrong permissions)

I have tried logging in to a failsafe terminal and fixing this by using 
chown username  /home/anthony/.dmrc


the file now has these permissions:

-rw-rw-r-- 1 anthony anthony 26 2006-09-21 18:56 /home/anthony/.dmrc

but the login message is the same.

I am reading the debian manual on file permissions, but I don't see an 
obvious way to reset this especially since I only have access to this 
file as root. 


Any help much appreciated

Not sure if booting in single-user mode will give you root permission. 
If not, boot Knoppix, or some other live distro, mount your Debian 
partition, and do whatever tweaking is necessary.


Jeff


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Re: Classic Gnubie accident

[Jochen Schulz]

Ron Johnson:
> On 10/29/06 15:21, anthony wrote:
> > 
> > -rw-rw-r-- 1 anthony anthony 26 2006-09-21 18:56 /home/anthony/.dmrc
> > 
> > but the login message is the same.

Look into ~/.xsession-errors, maybe there's more info.

And BTW, my ~/.dmrc is 600:
-rw--- 1 jrschulz jrschulz 37 2006-08-09 10:46 .dmrc

Antoher possiblity: delete the file and log in again (after choosing the
session you like).

> > I am reading the debian manual on file permissions, but I don't see an
> > obvious way to reset this especially since I only have access to this
> > file as root. 

Strange. It should get written by a root process (your login manager),
but be owned by you.

> > Any help much appreciated
> 
> This is (one reason) why I don't like GUI login managers.
> 
> If you have a boot CD, fire it up and go from there.

There's no need for that. You can still Alt-Fn to a regular console and
use that.

> And then purge xdm, gdm, kdm and log in like a Real Geek.

Real geeks may still have their terminals running under X. :)

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Re: postgresql database file names

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On 10/29/06 11:18, Tony Heal wrote:
> OK, how do you determine the disk size of a database. I have a var partition
> that is at 90% capacity and growing, and there are some databases I can
> remove, but it would be easier if I knew which DB's were taking up what disk
> space.

I don't think you can.  However, the postgresql-general list would
be helpful.  Also, the Postgresql docs are pretty thorough.  They
*might* point you to system tables that can help you write a script
to determine the info you want.

If you use v 8.1.x, tablespaces are the way to go.  Among other
things, they let you put each database (and schema and table and
index, if you'd like) in it's own subdirectory.

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Re: Jerky Mouse Movement - SOLVED!

[Thomas H. George]

On Thu, Oct 26, 2006 at 01:42:44PM -0400, Thomas H. George wrote:
> After a dist-upgrade from Sarge to testing and to a kernel built from 
> linux-source-2.6.17 my mice - one old fashioned ball mouse and one Wacom 
> Graphire mouse - only move in jumps and starts.Clearly there is 
> something wrong with my setup but I am having difficulty finding the 
> fault.  I built the 2.6.17 with the same .config I used with a 2.6.11 
> kernel and Sarge and both mice worked perfectly before the upgrade.
> 
Solution: Do NOT compile the kernel with Processor types and
features/Local APIC support on uniprocessors.  Without this the Wacom
Graphire 4 Tablet mouse runs as smooth as silk; finest mouse I've ever
had.

Background: Went back and confirmed that I had not built the 2.6.11
kernel with local APIC support.  Somewhere along the line - perhaps when
I ran make oldmenuconfig - this got added in the 2.6.17 kernel.  It
sounds like a good thing to add but not if you want to use a Wacom
mouse.

Notes on my other posts on this subject:  xsetmode will change the
pointer between Absolute and Relative.  In my case changing it had no
effect.  I never found out if xsetwacom can change the Motion_Buffer but
I did inadvertantly change its value.  Mike had pointed out that in the
xorg.conf entry for the wacom pad I had set /dev/input/event0 while for
the stylus, eraser and cursor entries I had set /dev/input/wacom.  I
changed the pad entry to /dev/input/wacom and this did bad things.  When
I put it back to /dev/input/event0 and restarted gdm all was well again
but values of all the Wacom device Motion_Buffers had changed from 256
to 0.

I seem to remember that when I first set up my Wacom tablet a year ago I
found information on the Wacom website that told me how to modify
xorg.conf and that it specifically said the entry for pad should be
event0.  Note that /dev/input/wacom is a soft link to /dev/input/event2.

I hope all this is helpful to someone.  For myself I am as happy as a
clam to have my Wacom mouse and stylus working again.  When they work
right there is not another mouse that comes close to their smooth,
precise performance.

Tom

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Re: postgresql database file names

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> On Sun, Oct 29, 2006 at 03:00:38PM -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
> 
>>>   [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# du --summarize --human-readable /var/lib/mysql/*
> 
>> He is working with PostgreSQL.
> 
>   True, but I figured that the ability to determine which files
>  were the biggest was the next remaining issue.  (After working
>  out where they were).
> 
>   My example could have been better, but it didn't seem unreasonable
>  I hope not anyway!

PostgreSQL doesn't work that way.

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For example, it is "common sense" to white-power racists that
whites are superior to blacks, and that those with brown skins
are mud people.
However, that "common sense" is obviously wrong.
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Re: switching from mbox to maildir in mutt, exim, etc.: how?

[Ron Johnson]

On 10/29/06 11:38, Kevin Mark wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 27, 2006 at 05:24:26PM -0500, Russell L. Harris
> wrote:
>> On Fri, Oct 27, 2006 at 03:25:11PM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote:
> 
>> There is much confusion concerning Procmail recipes among those
>> who have written Procmail HOWTOs, so beware!  You do NOT need
>> to create a ".forward" file.  The quickest and easiest way to 
>> understand Procmail recipes is to print out the man pages
>> PROCMAIL, PROCMAILRC, and PROCMAILEX. Note the distinction
>> between "TO" and "TO_", and note that, with maildir, you do NOT
>> need locking (via ":") in the procmail recipes.  Note that,
>> typically, you need to escape only the "." in
> 
> Hi Russell, I have mail files like:
> 
> Mail/floss/debian.user
> 
> and if I change to maildir, I think it would become:
> 
> Maildir/floss.debian.user

Maildir/.floss.debian.user

> which if I understand it would be like:
> 
> Mail/floss/debian/user
> 
> so how do I avoid that or how should I alter the name
> "debian.user"? Maybe debian-user? Cheers, Kev

Sure.  debian-user or debian_user.  Or, even, debian/user.  In case
you subscribe to other Debian lists.

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Re: Classic Gnubie accident

[Ron Johnson]

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On 10/29/06 15:21, anthony wrote:
> Hello
> 
> I'm embarrassed to admit this, but after using various flavours of
> debian for over a year 've managed to lock myself out of my /home
> directory. When I log in I get the message - your home directory .dmrc
> file has the wrong permissions - permissions should be set to 664
> 
> (its actually the whole /home directory that has the wrong permissions)
> 
> I have tried logging in to a failsafe terminal and fixing this by using
> chown username  /home/anthony/.dmrc
> 
> the file now has these permissions:
> 
> -rw-rw-r-- 1 anthony anthony 26 2006-09-21 18:56 /home/anthony/.dmrc
> 
> but the login message is the same.
> 
> I am reading the debian manual on file permissions, but I don't see an
> obvious way to reset this especially since I only have access to this
> file as root. 
> 
> Any help much appreciated

This is (one reason) why I don't like GUI login managers.

If you have a boot CD, fire it up and go from there.

And then purge xdm, gdm, kdm and log in like a Real Geek.

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For example, it is "common sense" to white-power racists that
whites are superior to blacks, and that those with brown skins
are mud people.
However, that "common sense" is obviously wrong.
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Re: What's your favourite FLOSS?

[Ron Johnson]

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On 10/29/06 09:41, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote:
> On 10/27/06, Mirto Silvio Busico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > * misc utilities [ sudo, grep, top, wget, lynks ]
> 
> I can't find lynks anywhere. Is this a typo?

Yes.  The packages are lynx and links2.

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For example, it is "common sense" to white-power racists that
whites are superior to blacks, and that those with brown skins
are mud people.
However, that "common sense" is obviously wrong.
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Re: What's your favourite FLOSS?

[Ron Johnson]

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On 10/29/06 13:37, David Jardine wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 29, 2006 at 08:07:40AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> On Sun, Oct 29, 2006 at 04:42:00AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
>>> On 10/26/06 13:12, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote:
>>>
 note: you don't have to be a user of an application in order like it ;-)
>>> If you don't (now or at some time) use it, how do you know if you
>>> like it or not?
>> People can like things for the strangest reasons.
> 
> I don't know if it's strange, but I liked debian (from what I'd read 
> about it) before I tried it and long, long before I was really able 
> to use it (if I can yet :( ).

You can like the *idea* of something without trying, but you don't
actually like *it*.

For example, *every* heterosexual guy on this list "likes" Scarlett
Johansson[0].  But, she might actually be a grade A bitch, and if we
ever met her, we'd hate her.


[0] If you a monk without a TV, here are some links:
http://www.celebvilla.com/scarlett_johansson/images/scarlett_johansson017.jpg
http://www.sexyfamouscelebs.com/scarlettjohansson/scarlettjohansson/scarlettphotos/scarlett-johansson-profile.jpg
http://netmode.com.vn/dataimages/200603/original/images919603_scarlett-johansson-golden-g.jpg


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Is "common sense" really valid?
For example, it is "common sense" to white-power racists that
whites are superior to blacks, and that those with brown skins
are mud people.
However, that "common sense" is obviously wrong.
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Re: [kde-linux] no local printer with Konqueror 3.5.5

[Eike Lantzsch]

On Sunday 29 October 2006 17:11, David Baron wrote:
> On Sunday 29 October 2006 21:51, Florian Kulzer wrote:
> > On Sun, Oct 29, 2006 at 21:20:17 +0200, David Baron wrote:
> > > On Sunday 29 October 2006 20:37, Florian Kulzer wrote:
> >
[snip]

> I uncommented the sock line. Restarted CUPS. Still does not work.
> Retries to connect, counts down 5 tries.

Thread shift! Whatever ...  the "problem" (mine) is solved. It wasn't a 
problem. I had the filter button pressed somehow along the listbox. Well - 
dumb.

Thank you for your consideration.
Cheers, Eike


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Re: What's your favourite FLOSS?

[Ron Johnson]

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On 10/29/06 10:08, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote:
> On 10/29/06, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> * shell [ bash ]
> 
> Not such a valid entry, unless many entries go for other shells. If
> so, then this goes to 'misc utilities', unless you disagree.

A Unix shell is *in no way* a miscellaneous utility.

ANYONE who thinks so has Microsoft on the brain and it totally clueless.

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For example, it is "common sense" to white-power racists that
whites are superior to blacks, and that those with brown skins
are mud people.
However, that "common sense" is obviously wrong.
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Re: /dev/lp0 - Permission denied after CUPS upgrade

[Chris]

On Sunday 29 October 2006 20:30, Colin wrote:
> Chris wrote:
> > This is an older post from a while back.  The problem seems to have
> > resurfaced.  On my machine after a reboot, I have:
> >
> > crw-rw 1 root lp 6, 0 2006-10-29 20:03 /dev/lp0
> >
> > I can't use the printer until I change it to lp:lp or chmod 777.
> >
> > I'm guessing this is a udev problem, but how do I fix it for good?
>
> Have you tried adding yourself to the lp group?

yes, it does not help.  Even Cupsadmin can't print until I change the rights 
as described above.

Chris

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Classic Gnubie accident

[anthony]

Hello I'm embarrassed to admit this, but after using various flavours of debian for over a year 've managed to lock myself out of my /home directory. When I log in I get the message - your home directory .dmrc file has the wrong permissions - permissions should be set to 664
(its actually the whole /home directory that has the wrong permissions)I have tried logging in to a failsafe terminal and fixing this by using chown username  /home/anthony/.dmrcthe file now has these permissions: 
-rw-rw-r-- 1 anthony anthony 26 2006-09-21 18:56 /home/anthony/.dmrcbut the login message is the same. I am reading the debian manual on file permissions, but I don't see an obvious way to reset this especially since I only have access to this file as root.  
Any help much appreciated

Re: Slow Firefox

[Lars Staun Knudsen]

Sven Arvidsson wrote:
> That doesn't sound right. Try moving ~/.mozilla out of the way and start
> with a fresh profile. 
It makes no difference.

> If that doesn't work, maybe you can try launching firefox with strace
> and see if you can spot something strange.

I'm not familiar with strace and when i started firefox up it gave
me 500+ linies. Any idea of what i'm looking for

/Lars


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mutt and maildir question (after recent thread)

[Kevin Mark]

Hi folks,
I just took the plunge to try maildir. I use mutt and had to add a few
things to my .mutt/muttrc but it seems I'm missing some info. When I
used mbox, I could move a mail from mbox A to mbox B by using 's' in
mutt and then type in '=NEWMAILBOX' as the new location. This is not
quite working with maildir. I pressed 's' and then typed '=.new_mailbox'
and wanted it to add it to the new maildir. It asked if I wanted to
append the mail to that mailbox. I want the mail saved in
'=.new_mailbox/curr' as a unique maildir file. Whats the magic needed
for mutt and maildir?
thanks,
Kev
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Re: What's your favourite FLOSS?

[Rodrigo Paes]

On 10/29/06, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On 10/27/06, Rodrigo Paes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  * misc utilities [ sudo, grep, lsof, top, wget, meld, ssh ]

Nice that you pointed out meld, a graphical diff. I once saw such a
utility on Windows, and always wondered if there was an equivalent in
Debian (the kind of reason why I started this thread).


  I've seen quite a few graphical diffs GNU and M$ ... but meld is
the best by far. I even got a M$ user to change to Linux just because
of meld



>  * p2p [ bittorrent ]
>  * package manager [ dselect , apt-get ]

Wow! Still using dselect. Any advantages over aptitude or apt-get?



  nope  I've been using it for so long that I can't get my brain
rewired to use anything else :)

[]s
rodrigo


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