Re: Can't find header files.

[Amit Joshi]

On Monday 13 November 2006 12:23, Alan Ianson wrote:


>
> Do you have the linux-kernel-headers package installed for your kernel
> version?

Ok. It wasn't installed. I will install it and reply back. 
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Re: Trouble browsing secure web sites (scotiaonline.com)

[Alan Ianson]

On Sun November 12 2006 21:48, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 12, 2006 at 04:53:52PM -0800, Alan Ianson wrote:
> > Hello List,
> >
> > I am having trouble browsing my banks web site to do online banking. I
> > can log into the site but web pages don't seem to load up in the browser.
> > This is only the case when running testing or unstable, I can navigate
> > the site just fine with sarge.
> >
> > This has been the case since shortly after the release of sarge last
> > year, I could never use the site with testing or unstable. It's been my
> > hope that it would clear up before the release of etch as stable, but now
> > I wonder if it will since the scheduled release of etch is only a month
> > or so away.
> >
> >From my experience, etch is not ready for release.  Of three machines
>
> with etch installed in my house, two are unusable.  On one I dual-boot
> with sarge to get work done; on the other I've had to dual-boot Ubuntu.

I find etch (and even sid) very usable at the moment. OOo 2.0.4 seems to be 
working well reading/saving to/from different formats.

I'm using sid at the moment and the sluggishness of kmail moving to the next 
unread message seems to be gone.

Of course I guess it depends on what apps your using and how well they are 
working.. :)

I have konqueror trying to load my banks website in the background. It took 
quite a while but it just loaded up the intro page. Looks like it wants to 
work but just can't quite do it.

I can't seem to write to a usb stick either, the system thinks it's full when 
there is around 400 MB free there.

I'd sure like to see icon zooming return to the current kde also but that's 
about all that's busting my chops. :)

> I'd like to go back to Debian testing on those machines, but I can't
> until critical problems are fixed.

What kind of problems are you having there? Maybe someone on the list (or 
groups as the case may be) can help.


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(SOLVED) Re: Etch and Kde PDF printer

[Mirto Silvio Busico]

Florian Kulzer wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 10, 2006 at 13:10:02 +0100, Mirto Silvio Busico wrote:
>   
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I'm not able to use the virtual printers defined in Kde.
>>
>> Going to the control center -> devices -> printers if I select the
>> predefined pdf printer and I click on the "print test page" button, I
>> obtain a CUPS error.
>>
>> In my understanding the virtual printer should invoke ghostscript asking
>> for generating a file without calling the cups system.
>>
>> How can I setup a virtual printer generating a PDF file in Kde?
>> 
>
> Try to PDF-print something other than the test page. The test page seems
> to be broken for PDF/file and PS/file (it sends an invalid printer
> specification to CUPS), but printing other documents to a PDF works for
> me with kdeprint 4:3.5.5a.dfsg.1-1. (Actually I had not even noticed the
> problem with the test button until I saw your email and tried it.)
>
>   
Fantastic! It works correctly

Thanks a lot
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Re: Can't find header files.

[Alan Ianson]

On Sun November 12 2006 22:46, Amit Joshi wrote:
> I recently installed gcc and Anjuta for C programming.
> All dependencies have been installed.
>
> So whenever I try to compile a program, it returns an error saying:
> Error: stdio.h: Can't find file or directory.
>
> Never experienced such a problem before.
> I am using Etch and my program versions are as follows:
>
> gcc-3.3-base/testing uptodate 1:3.3.6-13
> gcc/testing uptodate 4:4.1.1-13
> gcc-4.1/testing uptodate 4.1.1-19
> gcc-3.4-base/testing uptodate 3.4.6-4
> gcc-4.1-base/testing uptodate 4.1.1-19
> libgcc1/testing uptodate 1:4.1.1-19
>
>
> anjuta-common/testing uptodate 1:1.2.4a-4
> anjuta/testing uptodate 1:1.2.4a-4
>
>
> Anybody experiencing similar problems?

Do you have the linux-kernel-headers package installed for your kernel 
version?


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Re: Can't find header files.

[Amit Joshi]

On Monday 13 November 2006 12:16, Amit Joshi wrote:
> I recently installed gcc and Anjuta for C programming.
> All dependencies have been installed.
>
> So whenever I try to compile a program, it returns an error saying:
> Error: stdio.h: Can't find file or directory.
>
> Never experienced such a problem before.
> I am using Etch and my program versions are as follows:
>
> gcc-3.3-base/testing uptodate 1:3.3.6-13
> gcc/testing uptodate 4:4.1.1-13
> gcc-4.1/testing uptodate 4.1.1-19
> gcc-3.4-base/testing uptodate 3.4.6-4
> gcc-4.1-base/testing uptodate 4.1.1-19
> libgcc1/testing uptodate 1:4.1.1-19
>
>
> anjuta-common/testing uptodate 1:1.2.4a-4
> anjuta/testing uptodate 1:1.2.4a-4
>
>
> Anybody experiencing similar problems?

I also tried searching for stdio.h using locate. (did updatedb too)

It returned the following results: 

/mnt/winc/cygwin/usr/include/stdio.h
/mnt/winc/cygwin/usr/include/sys/stdio.h
>> /usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux-gnu/4.1.2/include/ssp/stdio.h  <<
/usr/lib/perl/5.8.8/CORE/nostdio.h


I tried adding the /usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux-gnu/4.1.2/include/ssp/ path to my 
anjuta settings, but still it returns the same error. 

I guess the problem is with gcc itself. 
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Can't find header files.

[Amit Joshi]

I recently installed gcc and Anjuta for C programming. 
All dependencies have been installed. 

So whenever I try to compile a program, it returns an error saying: 
Error: stdio.h: Can't find file or directory. 

Never experienced such a problem before. 
I am using Etch and my program versions are as follows: 

gcc-3.3-base/testing uptodate 1:3.3.6-13
gcc/testing uptodate 4:4.1.1-13
gcc-4.1/testing uptodate 4.1.1-19
gcc-3.4-base/testing uptodate 3.4.6-4
gcc-4.1-base/testing uptodate 4.1.1-19
libgcc1/testing uptodate 1:4.1.1-19


anjuta-common/testing uptodate 1:1.2.4a-4
anjuta/testing uptodate 1:1.2.4a-4


Anybody experiencing similar problems?
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Re: Trouble browsing secure web sites (scotiaonline.com)

[hendrik]

On Sun, Nov 12, 2006 at 04:53:52PM -0800, Alan Ianson wrote:
> Hello List,
> 
> I am having trouble browsing my banks web site to do online banking. I can 
> log 
> into the site but web pages don't seem to load up in the browser. This is 
> only the case when running testing or unstable, I can navigate the site just 
> fine with sarge.
> 
> This has been the case since shortly after the release of sarge last year, I 
> could never use the site with testing or unstable. It's been my hope that it 
> would clear up before the release of etch as stable, but now I wonder if it 
> will since the scheduled release of etch is only a month or so away.

>From my experience, etch is not ready for release.  Of three machines 
with etch installed in my house, two are unusable.  On one I dual-boot 
with sarge to get work done; on the other I've had to dual-boot Ubuntu.

I'd like to go back to Debian testing on those machines, but I can't 
until critical problems are fixed.

Apparently the people in charge of releases think otherwise.

-- hendrik


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Re: Trouble browsing secure web sites (scotiaonline.com)

[hendrik]

On Sun, Nov 12, 2006 at 05:12:50PM -0800, Alan Ianson wrote:
> On Sun November 12 2006 17:05, Kamaraju Kusumanchi wrote:
> > On Sunday 12 November 2006 19:53, Alan Ianson wrote:
> > > Suggestions? Please! :)
> >
> > Which browser are you using? If it is firefox, try disabling the extensions
> > and see if it works.
> 
> I usually use konqueror but it doesn't seem to matter what browser I use. 
> I've 
> tried with firefox too and it doesn't work. I don't have any extentions 
> installed. I also use mozilla once in a while and that doesn't work either.

I use firefox to access scotiaolnine, with no problems.  Mind you , I'm 
now running sarge mainly because my etch system on the other partition 
won't boot.  (it stopped working a few months ago, and I've tried just
about everything except a reinstall).  But until a few monthe ago I was 
using firefos on etch to access scotiaonline with no problems 
whatsoever.

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Re: C++ exception handling question [solved]

[hendrik]

On Sun, Nov 12, 2006 at 08:31:42PM -0700, Paul E Condon wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 12, 2006 at 09:55:52AM -0800, John L Fjellstad wrote:
> > Paul E Condon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > 
> > > Thanks for stack profiling info. I wonder if this _is_ a reportable
> > > bug. After all, there is a lot of information on the 'bad_alloc'
> > > exception in various sources. If GNU C++ library doesn't try to throw
> > > this exception until it is too late for the throw to succeed, what
> > > good is it? And, how was its operation verified during testing on a
> > > Debain box? At the point where it kill happens, I think the program is
> > > allocating space for the contents of large STL vector of vectors.  It
> > > doesn't seem to me that this should be done on the stack, but I
> > > haven't thought deeply on the issue.
> 
> All my speculation as to the quality of GNU C++ compiler is
> inoperative. The problem is in the kernel, as pointed out by John F.:
> 
> > 
> > One thing you might not be aware of is that Linux overcommit the
> > memory.  That is, even if there is no memory left, it might tell the
> > program that it has enough, since it expect that by the time you use the
> > memory, it will be available. It's controlled by
> > /proc/sys/vm/overcommit_memory. 
> > 
> > Check the man page for malloc (look under BUGS), and do some search in
> > your favorite search engine.
> > 
> 
> This is really interesting. man malloc calls the default behavior
> of the kernel a really bad bug, with which I agree. kernel-docs
> sysctl/vm.txt justifies the default by claiming it is helpful to
> programmers who 'malloc() huge amounts of memory "just-in-case" and
> don't use much of it.' I had thought such programmers were rare in the
> Linux world, as they are all happily writing garbage code for
> BillG. But, oh well. Now I know how to make my code work under Linux. 

It is reasonable to reserve large blocks of address space, if you need 
unknown amounts of contiguous space -- and then populate it later.  This 
happens, for example, with some memory allocation algorithms.  FOr 
specific applications, such techniques may be more efficient or 
otherwise appropriate than using malloc.  But I do believe that if such 
a feature is provided, it should *not* be called malloc, which has other 
important uses.

In any case, it sould be possible to ask for storage allocation in such 
a way that the allocation request fails if the storage is not going to 
be available when it is needed,

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Re: how to find which package a binary belongs to

[Tshepang Lekhonkhobe]

On 11/13/06, Kevin Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Mon, Nov 13, 2006 at 06:47:41AM +0200, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote:
> Hi,
> Sorry if this all over the place, but I'd like to know how check which
> package a binary file belongs to, without using dwww-quickfind (which
> belongs to dwww).
>
> thanks...
>
if you have a file /bin/ls on your system and you want to know what
package it come from:
'dpkg -S /bin/ls'
if you want to know what packages in Debian has 'ghostscript' in its
name or path, including packages not installed, then you can use
'apt-file search  ghostscript '.


lovely stuff. thanks a lot...


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Sending bug report alternatively

[T]

On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 14:47:17 -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:

>>> "$ reportbug apt-show-versions" is your friend. :)
>> 
>> My ISP will TLS email authentication is my barrier to get it through. :-)
> 
> reportbug lets you write the text out to a flat file, which you can
> then past into the Yahoo compose screen.

Are you sure? Have you tried it?

Last time I tried, my bug report was pronounced invalid because some
important email headers was missing and there was no way for me to add
them to Yahoo email composer.

PS. I'm corresponding with this mlist via nntp interface provided by gmane.

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Re: Adding more than one IP Address

[Russell L. Harris]

* Amit Joshi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [061112 23:13]:
> Yes. I have read the howtos now. But there's one more question. What is 
> this "Automatic Metric" (thats what I saw in Windows XP ..related to a 
> Gateway). 
> 
> Also, how do I make sure that my main IP address will always be the default?
> I just want to use the other IP address while transferring files from the 
> machine with a different gateway. 

Google for "network metric".  In most cases, the network metric is of
academic interest, and has little practical revelance.

For the other question, try searching with Google Linx
(www.google.com/linux) for something such
as "default IP address".

RLH


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Re: My audio doesn't start (part II)

[Amit Joshi]

On Monday 13 November 2006 07:58, Alejandro wrote:
> Dear Ismael, Russell and all who can help me,
>
> You help me a pair of days ago on an audio problem, I can't hear nothing
> at all in my Linux box, because I think I run "apt-get dist-upgrade" for
> several packages I don't remember now. I really appreciate your
> supportBecause of your responses I ran alsaconf and alsamixer but I
> still have problems:
>
> - Debian Etch
> - Run alsaconf
> - Detected sound driver: Via Technologies VT82C686 AC97 Audio Controller
> (the same I get with lspci command)
> - Configure snd-via82xx
> - After that I get this message:
>
> Running update-modules...
> Loading driver...
> Setting default volumes...
> amixer: Mixer attach default error: No such device
> Saving the mixer setup used for this in /var/lib/alsa/asound.state.
> /usr/sbin/alsactl: save_state:1254: No soundcards found...
>
> After that I ran alsamixer:
>
> alex:/home/ale# alsamixer
>
> alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
>

This is a very common error. Searching Google would have helped you with a 
lotta results. 

Running this command as root may help: 

chmod o+rw /dev/snd/controlC0





> So I have this info for you please:
>
> alex:~# lspci | grep AC97
> 00:07.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C686
> AC97 Audio Controller (rev 50)
>
> alex:~# lsmod | grep snd
> snd_mixer_oss  16640  1
> snd_via82xx26660  1
> snd_ac97_codec 59268  1 snd_via82xx
> snd_pcm85384  1 snd_via82xx
> snd_timer  23300  1 snd_pcm
> snd_page_alloc 11144  2 snd_via82xx,snd_pcm
> gameport4736  1 snd_via82xx
> snd_mpu401_uart 7296  1 snd_via82xx
> snd_rawmidi23204  1 snd_mpu401_uart
> snd_seq_device  7944  1 snd_rawmidi
> snd50660  8
> snd_mixer_oss,snd_via82xx,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_mpu401_uart,
>snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device soundcore   9824  2 snd
>
> alex:/etc/modprobe.d# more sound
> alias snd-card-0 snd-via82xx
> options snd-via82xx index=0
>
> Also I have alsa-utils, libasound2, linux-sound-base but I don't have
> alsa-base neither gstreamer.
>
> Can you tell me what can be the problem ???
>
> Thousands of thanks 
>
> Alejandro

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Re: Adding more than one IP Address

[Amit Joshi]

On Monday 13 November 2006 02:09, Russell L. Harris wrote:
> * Amit Joshi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [061112 13:26]:
> > I am sort of stuck up. I need to put more than one IP address due to my
> > strange requirement. I am in a situation where there are multiple
> > gateways, and so I need multiple addresses for the respective gateways.
>
> ...
>
> > Is there a way to add multiple IP addresses, for the same Network card in
> > Debian?
>
> A good discussion of this can be found in Debian Reference, Chapter 10,
> "Network Configuration".

Yes. I have read the howtos now. But there's one more question. What is 
this "Automatic Metric" (thats what I saw in Windows XP ..related to a 
Gateway). 

Also, how do I make sure that my main IP address will always be the default?
I just want to use the other IP address while transferring files from the 
machine with a different gateway. 
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Re: Etch kernel

[Amit Joshi]

On Monday 13 November 2006 02:21, Dave Ewart wrote:
> On Sunday, 12.11.2006 at 23:32 +0530, Amit Joshi wrote:
> > For example, the Sarge CDs provide the 2.6.8 (tagged as unstable)
> > kernel.
>
> I didn't think the Sarge 2.6 kernel was technically 'unstable' - the
> installer gave two options: 2.4 or 2.6; although 2.4 was the default,
> there was certainly never any implication that by choosing 2.6 you were
> opening yourself to an 'unstable' environment...
>
> Dave.

Yes. Technically speaking, it wasn't 'unstable'. But then its Debian. Whatever 
is not rigorously tested, is to be tagged as unstable/testing..   :P
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Re: how to find which package a binary belongs to

[Kevin Mark]

On Mon, Nov 13, 2006 at 06:47:41AM +0200, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote:
> Hi,
> Sorry if this all over the place, but I'd like to know how check which
> package a binary file belongs to, without using dwww-quickfind (which
> belongs to dwww).
> 
> thanks...
> 
if you have a file /bin/ls on your system and you want to know what
package it come from:
'dpkg -S /bin/ls'
if you want to know what packages in Debian has 'ghostscript' in its
name or path, including packages not installed, then you can use
'apt-file search  ghostscript '.
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how to find which package a binary belongs to

[Tshepang Lekhonkhobe]

Hi,
Sorry if this all over the place, but I'd like to know how check which
package a binary file belongs to, without using dwww-quickfind (which
belongs to dwww).

thanks...


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how to configure network?

[Tshepang Lekhonkhobe]

Hi,

I've installed Debian with a 3-month-old network installer on expert
mode. Reason for this is that it allows for disabling the root
password, and therefore assigns the initial user as a sudoer. But then
it does not autoconfigure the network which results in stuff like xine
and dwww not working. I don't have network access on that particular
machine, that's why I left the settings out, but I guess there should
be some configuration anyways. Could someone guide me on how I can
solve my problem without resorting to a fresh install.

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Re: Trouble browsing secure web sites (scotiaonline.com)

[Michael Waters]

On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 19:38 -0800, Alan Ianson wrote:
 
> I did change the user agent an hour or two ago to IE6 & Windows/XP just to 
> see 
> and it didn't make a difference.
> 
> The site doesn't use pop-ups either. I just loaded the site with firefox and 
> after a few minutes of being patient as I can and reloading the page multiple 
> times I did get a look at my account details page. I might be able to go 
> further if I was patient enough. I hate to think what could happen if I am 
> paying bills and reloading the page multiple times.
> 
> > If you can't get it to work, I guess you could run IE in qemu or
> > vmware...  and complain to your bank or switch banks. :)
> 
> I have thought of all the above. The answer may be there. :)

shots in the dark:

- do you have a firewall running? have you checked the log during
  connection problems to see if it's blocking the site...

- echo 0 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_ecn



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Re: Trouble browsing secure web sites (scotiaonline.com)

[Alan Ianson]

On Sun November 12 2006 19:16, Stephen Yorke wrote:
> All I run is Etch at home right now...guess I should'a mentioned
> that...sorry.

Hmm. I must have some kind of problem and/or conflict on my box then. I wonder 
what it could be?

> -Original Message-
> From: Alan Ianson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 10:10 PM
> To: Stephen Yorke
> Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: Trouble browsing secure web sites (scotiaonline.com)
>
> On Sun November 12 2006 18:53, Stephen Yorke wrote:
> > I use ScotiaOnline on all my PCs/OSs...
> >
> > Have had it work with FireFox, IE 6 and the recent IE 7 (Beta 1, 2,
> > RC1 & Release)...it just works.
>
> Yep. same here. Never have any problem using the site with windows. I
> don't use windows a heck of a lot anymore though.
>
> > I have just tried it with one of my Debian boxes and it works
> > fine...logged in and checked my account using FireFox 1.5.0.7.  Not a
> > problem.
>
> Is that sarge? I can navigate the site OK with sarge also. I only have
> problems when I'm running (and I usually am) testing/unstable.
>
> > I hope this makes it to the lists...I have been having problems
> > sending to it the past few days.
>
> I haven't seen this on the list yet but I imagine it'll be there soon.
>
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Re: Trouble browsing secure web sites (scotiaonline.com)

[Alan Ianson]

On Sun November 12 2006 19:19, Michael Waters wrote:
> On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 18:38 -0800, Alan Ianson wrote:
> > On Sun November 12 2006 17:54, Douglas Tutty wrote:
> > > On Sun, Nov 12, 2006 at 04:53:52PM -0800, Alan Ianson wrote:
> > > > Hello List,
> > > >
> > > > I am having trouble browsing my banks web site to do online banking.
> > > > I can log into the site but web pages don't seem to load up in the
> > > > browser. This is only the case when running testing or unstable, I
> > > > can navigate the site just fine with sarge.
> > > >
> > > > This has been the case since shortly after the release of sarge last
> > > > year, I could never use the site with testing or unstable. It's been
> > > > my hope that it would clear up before the release of etch as stable,
> > > > but now I wonder if it will since the scheduled release of etch is
> > > > only a month or so away.
> > >
> > > I've installed Etch amd64 and used both firefox and galeon in https
> > > with no difficulties.  However, I haven't tried scotia's website.  That
> > > computer is off right now or I would try it.
> >
> > That's what I have too. I've tried every browser at one time or another
> > and so far it just doesn't go.
> >
> > > Can you access any other https sites?  I know that I can access ebay,
> > > try that.  If you don't have an account, click register.  It will give
> > > you a form in https.  If you get the form, then it works.
> >
> > I Only use a couple like gmail and ebay and I've never had a problem.
> >
> > > Try running the bowser from an xterm (or rxvt) and see if your browser
> > > issues any error messages.
> >
> > I just ran konqueror from konsole and saw no errors. It did load up the
> > first page OK but when I tried to look at my account details it doesn't
> > work again. I can see my modem lights flash so something is happening but
> > nothing shows in my browser window.
>
> Have you tried spoofing the user-agent as IE in Konqueror?  In konq
> settings -> Browser Identification, it gives you choices of fake IDs
> including ones for IE.  I think there's an extension for firefox that
> does the same thing.  Have you tried allowing all popups from the site?
> Maybe it's trying to open a new window when you login.

I did change the user agent an hour or two ago to IE6 & Windows/XP just to see 
and it didn't make a difference.

The site doesn't use pop-ups either. I just loaded the site with firefox and 
after a few minutes of being patient as I can and reloading the page multiple 
times I did get a look at my account details page. I might be able to go 
further if I was patient enough. I hate to think what could happen if I am 
paying bills and reloading the page multiple times.

> If you can't get it to work, I guess you could run IE in qemu or
> vmware...  and complain to your bank or switch banks. :)

I have thought of all the above. The answer may be there. :)


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Re: C++ exception handling question [solved]

[Paul E Condon]

On Sun, Nov 12, 2006 at 09:55:52AM -0800, John L Fjellstad wrote:
> Paul E Condon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > Thanks for stack profiling info. I wonder if this _is_ a reportable
> > bug. After all, there is a lot of information on the 'bad_alloc'
> > exception in various sources. If GNU C++ library doesn't try to throw
> > this exception until it is too late for the throw to succeed, what
> > good is it? And, how was its operation verified during testing on a
> > Debain box? At the point where it kill happens, I think the program is
> > allocating space for the contents of large STL vector of vectors.  It
> > doesn't seem to me that this should be done on the stack, but I
> > haven't thought deeply on the issue.

All my speculation as to the quality of GNU C++ compiler is
inoperative. The problem is in the kernel, as pointed out by John F.:

> 
> One thing you might not be aware of is that Linux overcommit the
> memory.  That is, even if there is no memory left, it might tell the
> program that it has enough, since it expect that by the time you use the
> memory, it will be available. It's controlled by
> /proc/sys/vm/overcommit_memory. 
> 
> Check the man page for malloc (look under BUGS), and do some search in
> your favorite search engine.
> 

This is really interesting. man malloc calls the default behavior
of the kernel a really bad bug, with which I agree. kernel-docs
sysctl/vm.txt justifies the default by claiming it is helpful to
programmers who 'malloc() huge amounts of memory "just-in-case" and
don't use much of it.' I had thought such programmers were rare in the
Linux world, as they are all happily writing garbage code for
BillG. But, oh well. Now I know how to make my code work under Linux. 

Thanks
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Re: Trouble browsing secure web sites (scotiaonline.com)

[Michael Waters]

On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 18:38 -0800, Alan Ianson wrote:
> On Sun November 12 2006 17:54, Douglas Tutty wrote:
> > On Sun, Nov 12, 2006 at 04:53:52PM -0800, Alan Ianson wrote:
> > > Hello List,
> > >
> > > I am having trouble browsing my banks web site to do online banking. I
> > > can log into the site but web pages don't seem to load up in the browser.
> > > This is only the case when running testing or unstable, I can navigate
> > > the site just fine with sarge.
> > >
> > > This has been the case since shortly after the release of sarge last
> > > year, I could never use the site with testing or unstable. It's been my
> > > hope that it would clear up before the release of etch as stable, but now
> > > I wonder if it will since the scheduled release of etch is only a month
> > > or so away.
> >
> > I've installed Etch amd64 and used both firefox and galeon in https with
> > no difficulties.  However, I haven't tried scotia's website.  That
> > computer is off right now or I would try it.
> 
> That's what I have too. I've tried every browser at one time or another and 
> so 
> far it just doesn't go.
> 
> > Can you access any other https sites?  I know that I can access ebay,
> > try that.  If you don't have an account, click register.  It will give
> > you a form in https.  If you get the form, then it works.
> 
> I Only use a couple like gmail and ebay and I've never had a problem.
> 
> > Try running the bowser from an xterm (or rxvt) and see if your browser
> > issues any error messages.
> 
> I just ran konqueror from konsole and saw no errors. It did load up the first 
> page OK but when I tried to look at my account details it doesn't work again. 
> I can see my modem lights flash so something is happening but nothing shows 
> in my browser window.
> 

Have you tried spoofing the user-agent as IE in Konqueror?  In konq
settings -> Browser Identification, it gives you choices of fake IDs
including ones for IE.  I think there's an extension for firefox that
does the same thing.  Have you tried allowing all popups from the site?
Maybe it's trying to open a new window when you login.

If you can't get it to work, I guess you could run IE in qemu or
vmware...  and complain to your bank or switch banks. :)



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Re: Trouble browsing secure web sites (scotiaonline.com)

[Alan Ianson]

On Sun November 12 2006 18:53, Stephen Yorke wrote:
> I use ScotiaOnline on all my PCs/OSs...
>
> Have had it work with FireFox, IE 6 and the recent IE 7 (Beta 1, 2, RC1
> & Release)...it just works.

Yep. same here. Never have any problem using the site with windows. I don't 
use windows a heck of a lot anymore though.

> I have just tried it with one of my Debian 
> boxes and it works fine...logged in and checked my account using FireFox
> 1.5.0.7.  Not a problem.

Is that sarge? I can navigate the site OK with sarge also. I only have 
problems when I'm running (and I usually am) testing/unstable.

> I hope this makes it to the lists...I have been having problems sending
> to it the past few days.

I haven't seen this on the list yet but I imagine it'll be there soon.


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Re: [Fixed] Re: Missing partition icons on sid gnome desktop

[E0x]

somebody what up with this problem , i have the same problem to , all Icon of my HD are gone just appeart the icon of the external HD when i connect it but the internal HD not ( or partition ) 
On 10/19/06, José Alburquerque <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
José Alburquerque wrote:> Curiously, when I run the old hal-device-manager, my volumes appear by> label under my scsi disks (I have two with several partitions), but> when I run the new hal-device-manager, the volumes are no longer
> there.  Would this be a feature, a bug or what in hal?  Should I> submit a bug report?  (I've attached two window shots for comparison> purposes).>I submitted a bug report to the hal package on this so I'm sure this
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Re: Trouble browsing secure web sites (scotiaonline.com)

[Alan Ianson]

On Sun November 12 2006 17:54, Douglas Tutty wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 12, 2006 at 04:53:52PM -0800, Alan Ianson wrote:
> > Hello List,
> >
> > I am having trouble browsing my banks web site to do online banking. I
> > can log into the site but web pages don't seem to load up in the browser.
> > This is only the case when running testing or unstable, I can navigate
> > the site just fine with sarge.
> >
> > This has been the case since shortly after the release of sarge last
> > year, I could never use the site with testing or unstable. It's been my
> > hope that it would clear up before the release of etch as stable, but now
> > I wonder if it will since the scheduled release of etch is only a month
> > or so away.
>
> I've installed Etch amd64 and used both firefox and galeon in https with
> no difficulties.  However, I haven't tried scotia's website.  That
> computer is off right now or I would try it.

That's what I have too. I've tried every browser at one time or another and so 
far it just doesn't go.

> Can you access any other https sites?  I know that I can access ebay,
> try that.  If you don't have an account, click register.  It will give
> you a form in https.  If you get the form, then it works.

I Only use a couple like gmail and ebay and I've never had a problem.

> Try running the bowser from an xterm (or rxvt) and see if your browser
> issues any error messages.

I just ran konqueror from konsole and saw no errors. It did load up the first 
page OK but when I tried to look at my account details it doesn't work again. 
I can see my modem lights flash so something is happening but nothing shows 
in my browser window.


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Re: Trouble browsing secure web sites (scotiaonline.com)

[Alan Ianson]

On Sun November 12 2006 17:34, John Hasler wrote:
> Alan Ianson writes:
> > It could be something about the scotiaonline.com website but I just don't
> > know.
>
> Looks like a buggy site.  It (falsely) claims that I have Javascript
> disabled and then tells me it supports only ancient versions of IE and
> Netscape.  Try having your browser claim to be IE.

I hope that was written years ago and just forgotten! The scotiaonline.com web 
admin must have his finger on the pulse, right!?


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My audio doesn't start (part II)

[Alejandro]

Dear Ismael, Russell and all who can help me,

You help me a pair of days ago on an audio problem, I can't hear nothing 
at all in my Linux box, because I think I run "apt-get dist-upgrade" for 
several packages I don't remember now. I really appreciate your 
supportBecause of your responses I ran alsaconf and alsamixer but I 
still have problems:


- Debian Etch
- Run alsaconf
- Detected sound driver: Via Technologies VT82C686 AC97 Audio Controller 
(the same I get with lspci command)

- Configure snd-via82xx
- After that I get this message:

Running update-modules...
Loading driver...
Setting default volumes...
amixer: Mixer attach default error: No such device
Saving the mixer setup used for this in /var/lib/alsa/asound.state.
/usr/sbin/alsactl: save_state:1254: No soundcards found...

After that I ran alsamixer:

alex:/home/ale# alsamixer

alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device

So I have this info for you please:

alex:~# lspci | grep AC97
00:07.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C686 
AC97 Audio Controller (rev 50)


alex:~# lsmod | grep snd
snd_mixer_oss  16640  1
snd_via82xx26660  1
snd_ac97_codec 59268  1 snd_via82xx
snd_pcm85384  1 snd_via82xx
snd_timer  23300  1 snd_pcm
snd_page_alloc 11144  2 snd_via82xx,snd_pcm
gameport4736  1 snd_via82xx
snd_mpu401_uart 7296  1 snd_via82xx
snd_rawmidi23204  1 snd_mpu401_uart
snd_seq_device  7944  1 snd_rawmidi
snd50660  8 
snd_mixer_oss,snd_via82xx,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device

soundcore   9824  2 snd

alex:/etc/modprobe.d# more sound
alias snd-card-0 snd-via82xx
options snd-via82xx index=0

Also I have alsa-utils, libasound2, linux-sound-base but I don't have 
alsa-base neither gstreamer.


Can you tell me what can be the problem ???

Thousands of thanks 

Alejandro





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Re: localhost in /etc/hosts

[Hans du Plooy]

On Sun, 2006-11-12 at 17:15 -0500, Douglas Tutty wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 12, 2006 at 11:28:45PM +0200, Hans du Plooy wrote:
> > 127.0.0.1localhost.localdomainlocalhost
> > 
> > I was always under the impression the first is the proper way.  I seem
> > to be having issues with resovling localhost for some web applications
> > on my Sarge server (127.0.0.1 localhost) but when I fix the hosts file,
> > it works, but breaks other things (like mysql usernames).
> > 
> I always have it set like this, before I install anything beyond base.

Me too but I slipped up this time.  Now it's biting me...

I also tried changing to the above and adding:

127.0.0.2   localhost

and swapping the IPs around - not much luck.

Hans


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Re: localhost in /etc/hosts

[Douglas Tutty]

On Mon, Nov 13, 2006 at 02:07:52AM +0100, David Jardine wrote:
 
> To muddy the water a little more, I have
> 
> 127.0.0.1 quash   localhost   loopback
> 
> where "quash" is the name of the machine.  I don't remember how I came 
> to do this, but it must have been from some debian documentation.
> 
I guess that would be for a computer with no network access (other, I
suppose, than ppp).



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Re: Trouble browsing secure web sites (scotiaonline.com)

[Douglas Tutty]

On Sun, Nov 12, 2006 at 04:53:52PM -0800, Alan Ianson wrote:
> Hello List,
> 
> I am having trouble browsing my banks web site to do online banking. I can 
> log 
> into the site but web pages don't seem to load up in the browser. This is 
> only the case when running testing or unstable, I can navigate the site just 
> fine with sarge.
> 
> This has been the case since shortly after the release of sarge last year, I 
> could never use the site with testing or unstable. It's been my hope that it 
> would clear up before the release of etch as stable, but now I wonder if it 
> will since the scheduled release of etch is only a month or so away.

I've installed Etch amd64 and used both firefox and galeon in https with
no difficulties.  However, I haven't tried scotia's website.  That
computer is off right now or I would try it.

Can you access any other https sites?  I know that I can access ebay,
try that.  If you don't have an account, click register.  It will give
you a form in https.  If you get the form, then it works.

Try running the bowser from an xterm (or rxvt) and see if your browser
issues any error messages.  

Doug.


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trac issue

[Almir Karic]

hello



i am on stable and am having troubles with the latest trac
trac_0.8.1-3sarge6_all.deb. the error i get when trying to access any
page is:


Oops...
Trac detected an internal error:

'module' object has no attribute 'quote_cookie_value'

If you think this really should work and you can reproduce it. Then
you should consider to report this problem to the Trac team.

Go to http://trac.edgewall.com/ and create a new ticket where you
describe the problem, how to reproduce it. Don't forget to include the
python traceback found below.

TracGuide — The Trac User and Administration Guide
Python traceback

Traceback (most recent call last):
 File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/trac/ModPythonHandler.py",
line 195, in handler
   core.dispatch_request(mpr.path_info, args, mpr, env)
 File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/trac/core.py", line 511, in
dispatch_request
   req.form_token = get_form_token(req)
 File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/trac/core.py", line 468, in
get_form_token
   path = util.quote_cookie_value(req.cgi_location)
AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'quote_cookie_value'




the is a direct copy/paste from
http://www.kiberpipa.org/projekti/ibuild , the same behaviour occurs
on any page of any project on kiberpipa.org/projekti .



any tips/help/links appreciated.

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Re: Trouble browsing secure web sites (scotiaonline.com)

[John Hasler]

Alan Ianson writes:
> It could be something about the scotiaonline.com website but I just don't
> know.

Looks like a buggy site.  It (falsely) claims that I have Javascript
disabled and then tells me it supports only ancient versions of IE and
Netscape.  Try having your browser claim to be IE.
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Mail sent to "users" in /etc/aliases

[Bill Moseley]

My /etc/aliases file has entires like this:

daemon: root
bin: :fail: Unknown User
sys: root
sync: root
games: root
man: root
lp: root
mail: root
news: root
uucp: root
proxy: root
postgres: root
www-data: root

When would mail ever get delivered *to* those addresses?  Will
anything break if mail can't be delivered to "www-data", for example?

I've been getting more spam lately addresses to common unix users, so
I'm thinking about rejecting mail to those users -- well, any user
that is not listed in a separate "valid-users" type of file.



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Re: Trouble browsing secure web sites (scotiaonline.com)

[Alan Ianson]

On Sun November 12 2006 17:05, Kamaraju Kusumanchi wrote:
> On Sunday 12 November 2006 19:53, Alan Ianson wrote:
> > Suggestions? Please! :)
>
> Which browser are you using? If it is firefox, try disabling the extensions
> and see if it works.

I usually use konqueror but it doesn't seem to matter what browser I use. I've 
tried with firefox too and it doesn't work. I don't have any extentions 
installed. I also use mozilla once in a while and that doesn't work either.

Do these browsers have there own https:// abilities or do they rely on ssl or 
something?

I've posted this question before and nobody else seemed to be having problems. 
I just got an email from someone else using Scotiabank who is having 
difficulties asking if I found a solution and I had to tell him no. It could 
be something about the scotiaonline.com website but I just don't know.


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Re: localhost in /etc/hosts

[David Jardine]

On Sun, Nov 12, 2006 at 11:28:45PM +0200, Hans du Plooy wrote:
> Hi guys,
> 
> Just wondering, which is correct:
> 
> 127.0.0.1localhost.localdomainlocalhost
> 
> or
> 
> 127.0.0.1localhost
> 
> The linux networking howto
> (http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/NET3-4-HOWTO-5.html) muddies the water even
> more:
> 
> 127.0.0.1  localhost loopback

To muddy the water a little more, I have

127.0.0.1   quash   localhost   loopback

where "quash" is the name of the machine.  I don't remember how I came 
to do this, but it must have been from some debian documentation.

[...]

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loving every minute of it."  -L. von Sacher-M.(1835-1895)


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Re: Trouble browsing secure web sites (scotiaonline.com)

[Kamaraju Kusumanchi]

On Sunday 12 November 2006 19:53, Alan Ianson wrote:

> Suggestions? Please! :)

Which browser are you using? If it is firefox, try disabling the extensions 
and see if it works.

raju

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Trouble browsing secure web sites (scotiaonline.com)

[Alan Ianson]

Hello List,

I am having trouble browsing my banks web site to do online banking. I can log 
into the site but web pages don't seem to load up in the browser. This is 
only the case when running testing or unstable, I can navigate the site just 
fine with sarge.

This has been the case since shortly after the release of sarge last year, I 
could never use the site with testing or unstable. It's been my hope that it 
would clear up before the release of etch as stable, but now I wonder if it 
will since the scheduled release of etch is only a month or so away.

I have thought about posting a bug report but I don't know where/what the real 
bug is.

Suggestions? Please! :)


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scponly connection problem

[Alejandro]

Dear all, I'm trying to use scponly but I don't succed. I have the
following information for you please:

- Debian Etch with "apt-get install scponly"
- Setup with chroot
- I execute the "setup_chroot" script and follow all the steps
- I get this messages during installation:
/usr/bin/install: cannot stat '/usr/bin/unison': No such file or directory
/usr/bin/install: cannot stat '/usr/bin/svn': No such file or directory
- The default directory is /home/scponly/incoming with "drwxr-xr-x"
rights
- Then I use a Windows PC with WinSCP 3.8.2 but I get an error
connection that can't find the user groups, so I compile the "groups.c"
file (gcc -o groups groups.c) and copy it to /home/scponly/bin/groups
into the jail as saying in the README.Debian text file.
- After that I start WinSCP again but I get a new error:

ERROR GETTING NAME OF CURRENT REMOTE DIRECTORY

CONNECTION HAS BEEN UNEXPECTEDLY CLOSED. SERVER SENT COMMAND EXIT STATUS 0.

The "scponly" user is correctly authenticated and the content of
/var/log/auth.log from my Debian box is this:

Nov 11 22:26:10 sala1 sshd[26822]: Accepted keyboard-interactive/pam for
scponly from 192.168.10.2 port 1219 ssh2
Nov 11 22:26:10 sala1 sshd[26826]: (pam_unix) session opened for user
scponly by (uid=0)
Nov 11 22:26:11 sala1 scponly[26826]: running: /bin/pwd (username:
scponly(5002), IP/port: 192.168.10.2 1219 22)

Here is the WinSCP lof file:

2006-11-11 23:13:14.841 WinSCP: this is end-of-file:0
2006-11-11 23:13:15.111 unset "LC_ALL" ; echo "WinSCP: this is
end-of-file:$status"
2006-11-11 23:13:15.371 WinSCP: this is end-of-file:0
2006-11-11 23:13:15.642 unset "HUMAN_BLOCKS" ; echo "WinSCP: this is
end-of-file:$status"
2006-11-11 23:13:15.912 WinSCP: this is end-of-file:0
2006-11-11 23:13:16.203 Looking up groups and users.
2006-11-11 23:13:16.473 groups ; echo "WinSCP: this is end-of-file:$status"
2006-11-11 23:13:16.753 *** glibc detected *** free(): invalid pointer:
0x0804dae0 ***
2006-11-11 23:13:17.034 *** glibc detected *** free(): invalid pointer:
0x0804dae0 ***
2006-11-11 23:13:17.364 Server exited on signal "ABRT"
2006-11-11 23:13:17.695 All channels closed. Disconnecting
2006-11-11 23:13:17.995 Server closed network connection
* 2006-11-11 23:13:18.316 (ESshFatal) Error looking up user groups.
* 2006-11-11 23:13:18.316 Connection has been unexpectedly closed.
Server sent command exit status 0.

What can I do in order to use scponly with WinSCP as my client ???

Thanking in advance, and sorry to bother you.

Alejandro


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D-Bus error trying to run gaim AND how do i ensure better upgrades?

[tom arnall]

i did an upgrade of my testing system recently and afterwards have found a 
nubmer of problems on my system. the most recent is that i can't run gaim 
properly. when i try to, the screen appears momentarily and then goes away, 
leaving the folowing error message in the console.


   D-Bus library appears to be incorrectly set up; failed to read 
   machine uuid: Failed to open "/var/lib/dbus/machine-id": No such 
   file or directory 
   See the manual page for dbus-uuidgen to correct this issue.
   Continuing with a bogus made-up machine UUID, which may cause 
   problems.gaim: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libpangocairo-1.0.so.0:\
   undefined symbol: cairo_scaled_font_get_font_options
   
i had some problems earlier with gaim and dealt with them by copying the 
config file from the root user to my user's directory, but the D-Bus error is 
new and started when i reinstalled gaim to deal with some other problems. 

What is the D-Bus error about?

Also, how can i lessen my chances of breaking things when i upgrade. (i have 
both testing and stable addresses in my sources.list file)




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Re: Wanted: decent GNOME player with MP4/AAC support

[Kelly Clowers]

On 11/12/06, André Wendt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Kelly Clowers schrieb:
> On 11/12/06, André Wendt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Kelly Clowers schrieb:
>> >
>> > Do you have Marillat's "gstreamer0.10-plugins-really-bad" package
>> > installed? It uses libfaad2 which is apparently the best aac decoder
>> > out there. If you have that, Rhythmbox and Banshee should be able
>> > to handle aac.
>>
>> Thanks for the info. In fact, I have the package installed, but still
>> cannot play AAC. I just reinstalled rhythmbox, maybe I installed them in
>> wrong order before and something got messed up. (I don't know a lot
>> about music libraries and plugins.)
>>
>> I'll report back if I made any progress.
>>
>> Regards,
>> André
>
> I got some .m4a files and tested them in Rhythmbox and Amarok.
> They worked fine, but I see there are reports of some aac files working
> and others not working.
>
> What errors do you get when trying to import the files? You say you
> have aac/mp4 files; are the extensions .mp4 or .aac or both? If some
> have different extensions, have you tried importing just one file at a
> time to see if it fails on one type but not the other?

Thanks for you time and patience. Rhythmbox reports "Could not decode
data stream" under Library/Import Errors. All the files in question have
.m4a extension, and they are in the same format (renaming to .aac or
.mp4 does not change the behavior). It does not matter if I try to
import a single file or a directory.

Banshee gives the same error after importing, when trying to play the file.

And after all, mplayer, XMMS and xine can all play my AAC files... Why
can't the two programs that offer a music library? :-(

> Also, take a look at this bug:
> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg/+bug/48727
>
>
> Maybe it's a tag problem.

Sorry, you lost me here. What is a "tag problem?" I was not using the
musicbrainz tagger, so I don't think the bug report relates to my problem.


Well, other taggers could theoretically cause problems as well, but now I don't
think that's what is going on.

I have now ripped a cd to aac format and I found that although Amarok played
it, Rhythmbox did not (whereas the aac I downloaded played on both).
I get the same error you did - "could not decode data stream"

To rule out problems with Rhythmbox, I have tried playing it with gstreamer
on the command line.

Using "gst-launch filesrc location=downloaded_aac.m4a ! decodebin !
audioconvert ! audioresample ! osssink" works. "decodebin" guesses
the decoder needed.

Strangely, "gst-launch filesrc location=downloaded_aac.m4a ! faad !
audioconvert ! audioresample ! osssink" does not work (manually
entering the decoder needed).

But the .m4a file I ripped does not work with "faad" or "decodebin".

Xine plays both files just fine.

At this point my abilities to investigate pretty much end.
You could try talking to the gstreamer people.

Otherwise, you could use a GTK player that doesn't use gstreamer,
and does play aac. Unfortunately, players like that seem to be rare.
There is one called xfmedia that works but it only uses playlists
(no library).

So the options seem to be: xine-based (xine, totem-xine, xfmedia)
with no library; Amarok, which uses kde; xmms with no library;
or wait for a gstreamer fix. Or transcode to another format (mp3
or ogg vorbis) but that would be a major pain and a move from
one lossy format to another lossy fomat can hurt sound quality.

Sorry I can't help more.


Cheers,
Kelly

Re: cs4232 soundcard

[Mark Grieveson]

On Sunday 12 November 2006 04:04, Mark Grieveson wrote:
  

> Hello.  I have an old IBM laptop (Thinkpad 770) and I'm trying to get
> the soundcard working on it.  I have run alsaconf, with the following
> result:
>
> FATAL: Error inserting snd-cs4232




I believe that there is NO ALSA support for this card. There is a recent OSS 
driver but we use ALSA.


  
SOLVED!  This response inspired me to try using OSS instead of ALSA, 
which worked.  I made sure I had alsa-oss installed, and then entered 
the command "modprobe cs4232", and this worked. 
Previously I had tried "modprobe snd-cs4232", which, like alsaconf, failed.


Thanks again.

Mark


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Re: Help needed: PHP not working with apache 2.2.3-3.1

[Edward Shornock (debian ml)]

On Sun, Nov 12, 2006 at 09:49:20AM +0100, Lukas Ruf wrote:
> Dear all,
> 
> since the change from apache 2.0 to 2.2 was made with debian
> unstable, I have not been able to get php (4 or 5) working as an
> apache 2.2 module.
> 
> Until before the change, I have been operating a wiki and made
> heavily use of php for dynamic web-pages.
> 

What are the errors, if any, that you're getting? Are there any hints in
/var/log/apache2/* ?


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Re: mysql upgrade broke server

[Kevin Mark]

On Mon, Nov 13, 2006 at 07:39:06AM +1100, Russell Weatherburn wrote:
> Wackojacko wrote:
> > Kevin Mark wrote:
> >> On Fri, Nov 10, 2006 at 05:57:13PM -0500, Rick Pasotto wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >>> I used 'querybts' *after* apt-get broke my installation. Are you in the
> >>> habit of checking for bugs on *every* package before upgrading it?
> >>> I'm not.
> >> Hi Rick,
> >> as you suggest, I dont check for bugs before upgrading. But I do check
> >> after, if there is a problem. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >> Kev
> > 
> > Do you have apt-listbugs installed.  This lists all open bugs for every
> > package that is going to be upgraded so if you see one that might affect
> > your system, you can investigate further before accepting the upgrade.
> > 
> > HTH
> > 
> > Wackojacko
> > 
> > 
> Just a note:
> apt-listbugs does not work correctly on Sarge.  Stupidly, in fact.  I
> have been told that it was supposed to be removed from Sarge because it
> doesn't work properly against the BTS, but on two systems I run it
> (seems to) works, but on a system that I have running a Sarge/BP/Testing
> blend (don't ask) it doesn't work at all.  Period.
> 
> I would love to be able to run apt-listbugs, but cannot in my current
> arrangement (see Bug# 389903 for further information on my case)
> 
> Regards,
> 
Hi Russell,
From the info that I have gleened, the BTS and apt-listbugs got upgrades
for etch and will work an order of magnitude better. the BTS now
includes version and distro info so that a bug will be better identified
for apt-listbugs and for users/developers using the BTS.
Cheers,
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Re: Etch kernel

[Manoj Srivastava]

Hi,
On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 12:00:30 +0200, ccostin  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
said:  

> What version of kernel will have Debian Etch ?

I think the current thinking is to go with 2.6.18.

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Re: Etch kernel

[ccostin]

On 11/12/06, Dave Ewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Sunday, 12.11.2006 at 23:32 +0530, Amit Joshi wrote:

> For example, the Sarge CDs provide the 2.6.8 (tagged as unstable)
> kernel.

I didn't think the Sarge 2.6 kernel was technically 'unstable' - the
installer gave two options: 2.4 or 2.6; although 2.4 was the default,
there was certainly never any implication that by choosing 2.6 you were
opening yourself to an 'unstable' environment...



Why not both, 2.6.17 default(main) kernel,  and optionally 2.6.18.


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Re: xen <-> hotplug

[ccostin]

Apparently, nothing at all.


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Re: localhost in /etc/hosts

[Douglas Tutty]

On Sun, Nov 12, 2006 at 11:28:45PM +0200, Hans du Plooy wrote:
> Hi guys,
> 
> Just wondering, which is correct:
> 
> 127.0.0.1localhost.localdomainlocalhost
> 
 
> I was always under the impression the first is the proper way.  I seem
> to be having issues with resovling localhost for some web applications
> on my Sarge server (127.0.0.1 localhost) but when I fix the hosts file,
> it works, but breaks other things (like mysql usernames).
> 

I always have it set like this, before I install anything beyond base.
I use postgresql not mysql but I'm assuming that it should be fixable in
its authentication mechanism.  Better to have a correct /etc/hosts file
and fix mysql.

Doug.


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Re: Failing to use Linux PC as router

[Douglas Tutty]

On Sun, Nov 12, 2006 at 09:48:03PM +0100, Hans Vogelsberger wrote:
 
> After three weeks of studying books, manuals and HOWTOS and try-
> ing to configure the two computers, I am constantly running in
> circles. I can ping from one computer to the other and from the
> old computer to the internet, and I can do everything I did be-
> fore with my old computer, but there is no connection at all
> between the new one and the internet. This I need urgently be-
> cause the AMD 64 has only a daily build netinst Etch I downloa-
> ded and burned to disk on October 17th. It is terribly castra-
> ted (even using 'more' instead of 'less'), but there is no way
> out of the networking circles without apt-get or aptitude which
> seem to be unreachable. My third computer, the one within the
> skull, seems to be rapidly loosing flexibility and efficiency
> after an uptime of more than 75 years.
> 
> 
> /etc/network/interfaces
> 
> OLD:
> 
> # The loopback interface
> auto lo
> iface lo inet loopback
> # The first network card
> up sysctl -w net.ipv4.ip_forward=1
> auto eth0
> iface eth0 inet dhcp
> address 192.168.1.2
> netmask 255.255.255.0
> inet_route add default gw 192.168.1.0/24
> up iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 192.168.1.0/24 -o eth0\
> -j MASQUERADE
> #*# Shouldn't these two lines be enough to guarantee
> dhcp access for BOTH computers ??? #*#
> # The second network card
> auto eth1
> iface eth1 inet static
> address 192.168.1.1
> netmask 255.255.255.0
> up iptables -A FORWARD -s 192.168.1.3 -d 192.168.1.2
> up iptables -A FORWARD -s 192.168.1.2 -d 192.168.1.3
> #*# Two lines added because route and MASQUERADE of
> eth0 seemed useless, but didn't help either #*#
> #*# TRIED after setting eth0 to inet static,
> but TOTALLY COMMENTED OUT after resetting
> eth0 to dhcp because the br0 did not find
> oth0: #*#
> NEW:
> 
> # The loopback interface
> auto lo
> iface lo inet loopback
> # The second network card
> up sysctl -w net.ipv4.ip_forward=1
> auto oth1
> iface oth1 inet static
> address 192.168.1.3
> netmask 255.255.255.0


I am unfamiliar with trying to set up a firewall from within
/etc/network/interfaces, although I see that the debian-reference does
this.

I have a similar setup where my 486 has the modem (although ppp).

I think that the dhcp from your ISP should set the gateway; you don't
need to.

If running sarge, ipforward is set in /etc/network/options, and if Etch
is in /etc/sysctl.conf

For a basic firewall, at least until things work and you want to tweak,
I use ipmasq.  Out of the box it sets up a basic forwarding firewall.
Later, if you want more control, use shorewall.

What nameserver setup are you using for the new computer?  I use dnsmasq
on the 486 and point my new computer's resolv.conf at the 486.

To summarize; you may be trying to do too much in
/etc/network/interfaces when Debian has default ways of doing this
differently.

Doug.


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Re: Wanted: decent GNOME player with MP4/AAC support

[Sven Arvidsson]

On Sun, 2006-11-12 at 22:22 +0100, André Wendt wrote:
> Thanks for you time and patience. Rhythmbox reports "Could not decode 
> data stream" under Library/Import Errors. All the files in question have 
> .m4a extension, and they are in the same format (renaming to .aac or 
> .mp4 does not change the behavior). It does not matter if I try to 
> import a single file or a directory.

Install gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad and the necessary depends from
http://www.debian-multimedia.org

If the files doesn't play in Gstreamer-based players, first, make sure
that the plugin is installed ok:

gst-inspect-0.10 | grep faad

Then, see if the faad program (independent package "faad" from above
source) and decode the file. 

Run faad song.aac and try to play the resulting .wav file.

If so, see if Gstreamer itself can play the file.

gst-launch-0.10 playbin uri=file:///path/to/song.aac

If it works so far, you need to see if the failure is in Rhythmbox
itself. Running with the debug flag, -d and trying to import the files
is a good start.

HTH,

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Re: Failing to use Linux PC as router

[Jochen Schulz]

Hans Vogelsberger:
> Some weeks ago I bought an AMD64 X2 which now I must connect to
> the internet, using my old Pentium 4 as router to the dynamic
> address I receive from my cable provider whenever I boot. Having
> used Testing since it came up in Potato times, I never needed and
> never acquired networking knowledge. Debian did all that for me,

:)

> OLD:
> 
> # The loopback interface
> auto lo
> iface lo inet loopback
> # The first network card
> up sysctl -w net.ipv4.ip_forward=1

This looks suspicious to me. Which entry does that line belong to? Have
you tried running it manually? You may try putting it into
/etc/sysctl.conf (but I am not sure whether sarge already reads this
file).

> auto eth0
> iface eth0 inet dhcp
> address 192.168.1.2
> netmask 255.255.255.0
> inet_route add default gw 192.168.1.0/24
> up iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 192.168.1.0/24 -o eth0\
> -j MASQUERADE
> #*# Shouldn't these two lines be enough to guarantee
> dhcp access for BOTH computers ??? #*#

This looks weird. If eth0 is card connected to the internet (or modem)
you don't need to set any addresses or routes by hand. Additionally, I
would put that iptables line in another script and put it in
/etc/network/if-pre-up.d/.

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Re: Wanted: decent GNOME player with MP4/AAC support

[André Wendt]

Kelly Clowers schrieb:

On 11/12/06, André Wendt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Kelly Clowers schrieb:
>
> Do you have Marillat's "gstreamer0.10-plugins-really-bad" package
> installed? It uses libfaad2 which is apparently the best aac decoder
> out there. If you have that, Rhythmbox and Banshee should be able
> to handle aac.

Thanks for the info. In fact, I have the package installed, but still
cannot play AAC. I just reinstalled rhythmbox, maybe I installed them in
wrong order before and something got messed up. (I don't know a lot
about music libraries and plugins.)

I'll report back if I made any progress.

Regards,
André


I got some .m4a files and tested them in Rhythmbox and Amarok.
They worked fine, but I see there are reports of some aac files working
and others not working.

What errors do you get when trying to import the files? You say you
have aac/mp4 files; are the extensions .mp4 or .aac or both? If some
have different extensions, have you tried importing just one file at a
time to see if it fails on one type but not the other?


Thanks for you time and patience. Rhythmbox reports "Could not decode 
data stream" under Library/Import Errors. All the files in question have 
.m4a extension, and they are in the same format (renaming to .aac or 
.mp4 does not change the behavior). It does not matter if I try to 
import a single file or a directory.


Banshee gives the same error after importing, when trying to play the file.

And after all, mplayer, XMMS and xine can all play my AAC files... Why 
can't the two programs that offer a music library? :-(



Also, take a look at this bug:
https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg/+bug/48727 



Maybe it's a tag problem.


Sorry, you lost me here. What is a "tag problem?" I was not using the 
musicbrainz tagger, so I don't think the bug report relates to my problem.


Regards,
André


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localhost in /etc/hosts

[Hans du Plooy]

Hi guys,

Just wondering, which is correct:

127.0.0.1localhost.localdomainlocalhost

or

127.0.0.1localhost

The linux networking howto
(http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/NET3-4-HOWTO-5.html) muddies the water even
more:

127.0.0.1  localhost loopback

I was always under the impression the first is the proper way.  I seem
to be having issues with resovling localhost for some web applications
on my Sarge server (127.0.0.1 localhost) but when I fix the hosts file,
it works, but breaks other things (like mysql usernames).

Thanks
Hans





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Re: Failing to use Linux PC as router

[Russell L. Harris]

* Hans Vogelsberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [061112 14:52]:
> Some weeks ago I bought an AMD64 X2 which now I must connect to
> the internet, using my old Pentium 4 as router to the dynamic
> address I receive from my cable provider whenever I boot. Having
> used Testing since it came up in Potato times, I never needed and
> never acquired networking knowledge. Debian did all that for me,
> 
> After three weeks of studying books, manuals and HOWTOS and try-
> ing to configure the two computers, I am constantly running in
> circles. I can ping from one computer to the other and from the
> old computer to the internet, and I can do everything I did be-
> fore with my old computer, but there is no connection at all
> between the new one and the internet. This I need urgently be-
> cause the AMD 64 has only a daily build netinst Etch I downloa-
> ded and burned to disk on October 17th. It is terribly castra-
> ted (even using 'more' instead of 'less'), but there is no way
> out of the networking circles without apt-get or aptitude which
> seem to be unreachable. My third computer, the one within the
> skull, seems to be rapidly loosing flexibility and efficiency
> after an uptime of more than 75 years.

Hans,

Download a ISO of SmoothWall Express 2.0 from www.smoothwall.org, burn
it to CD, and install it on your old machine.  This takes less than an
hour, and can be done easily even by a novice.  SmoothWall Express 2.0
is mature and trouble-free.  This will leave you with a reliable
firewall/router/DHCP server for your local area network (LAN).  No
manuals and no detailed configuration are required.

Then reconfigure (if necessary, reinstall) Debian on the AMD64, and
take your choice of DHCP or a static IP address within your LAN.

As you know, network configuration in Debian is trivial.  But properly
configuring a firewall/router has many pitfalls.

RLH



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Re: Adding more than one IP Address

[srg krn]

To assign more than one ip address per physical interface you can do
things like:
ifconfig eth0:1 192.168.169.170 255.255.255.0 up
(the preceding ":1", ":2", etc... denotes "alias" interfaces)
Better than ussing aliases is to connect the routers to a vlan capable
switch and define a dotted 1q interface (trunk).
In this manner, the security is better than ussing alias interfaces.

In the other hand, if you are thinking about "load balancing" isp
providers take a look at ip route 2, it is a very usefull tool (read
"linux advanced routing" howtos).

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Re: Re: Skype via VNC

[Peter Easthope]

Joshua & others,

I'm back at home and can reply to the list with help
of a thunderbird.

jk> What error messages do you get if you open a shell and start Skype
jk> that way (or look in .xsession-errors in your home dir).

Xsession: X session started for peter at Sat Oct 14 15:56:02 PDT 2006
** (xfwm4:4431): WARNING **: The display does not support the XComposite 
extension.

** (xfwm4:4431): WARNING **: Compositing manager disabled.

jk> The message about the XComposite extension are from xfwm,
jk> not skype, so that's not the problem.

OK, I'll try to fix it for sake of tidyness.

I can start skype from the VNC client here after all.
A message returns as skype starts.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ skype &
[1] 4446
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ Xlib:  extension "XInputExtension" missing on display 
":1.0".

What does the complaint about XInputExtension mean?

Thanks,   ... Peter Easthope



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Re: How to install package from mentors.debian.net ?

[Mathieu Malaterre]

Ok I found it:

http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/20

Sorry for the noise.

-M

I had to remove the line:
deb http://mentors.debian.net/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free

and then run the following commands:

 apt-get source bugle
 sudo apt-get build-dep bugle
 cd bugle-0.0.20061022
 debuild -us -uc
 cd ..
 sudo dpkg --install gldb_0.0.20061022-1_i386.deb
gldb-gui_0.0.20061022-1_i386.deb libbugle0_0.0.20061022-1_i386.deb


On 11/12/06, Mathieu Malaterre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I would like to install the following package:

http://mentors.debian.net/cgi-bin/sponsor-pkglist?action=details;package=bugle

but I cannot find any help on how to do that.

I simply tried adding the following two lines:

deb http://mentors.debian.net/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free
deb-src http://mentors.debian.net/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free

but all I get is:


Failed to fetch
http://mentors.debian.net/debian/dists/unstable/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz
 404 Not Found
Failed to fetch
http://mentors.debian.net/debian/dists/unstable/contrib/binary-i386/Packages.gz
 404 Not Found
Failed to fetch
http://mentors.debian.net/debian/dists/unstable/non-free/binary-i386/Packages.gz
 404 Not Found
Reading package lists... Done
W: Couldn't stat source package list http://mentors.debian.net
unstable/main Packages
(/var/lib/apt/lists/mentors.debian.net_debian_dists_unstable_main_binary-i386_Packages)
- stat (2 No such file or directory)
W: Couldn't stat source package list http://mentors.debian.net
unstable/contrib Packages
(/var/lib/apt/lists/mentors.debian.net_debian_dists_unstable_contrib_binary-i386_Packages)
- stat (2 No such file or directory)
W: Couldn't stat source package list http://mentors.debian.net
unstable/non-free Packages
(/var/lib/apt/lists/mentors.debian.net_debian_dists_unstable_non-free_binary-i386_Packages)
- stat (2 No such file or directory)
W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old
ones used instead.

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Re: Etch kernel

[Dave Ewart]

On Sunday, 12.11.2006 at 23:32 +0530, Amit Joshi wrote:

> For example, the Sarge CDs provide the 2.6.8 (tagged as unstable)
> kernel. 

I didn't think the Sarge 2.6 kernel was technically 'unstable' - the
installer gave two options: 2.4 or 2.6; although 2.4 was the default,
there was certainly never any implication that by choosing 2.6 you were
opening yourself to an 'unstable' environment...

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Failing to use Linux PC as router

[Hans Vogelsberger]

Some weeks ago I bought an AMD64 X2 which now I must connect to
the internet, using my old Pentium 4 as router to the dynamic
address I receive from my cable provider whenever I boot. Having
used Testing since it came up in Potato times, I never needed and
never acquired networking knowledge. Debian did all that for me,

After three weeks of studying books, manuals and HOWTOS and try-
ing to configure the two computers, I am constantly running in
circles. I can ping from one computer to the other and from the
old computer to the internet, and I can do everything I did be-
fore with my old computer, but there is no connection at all
between the new one and the internet. This I need urgently be-
cause the AMD 64 has only a daily build netinst Etch I downloa-
ded and burned to disk on October 17th. It is terribly castra-
ted (even using 'more' instead of 'less'), but there is no way
out of the networking circles without apt-get or aptitude which
seem to be unreachable. My third computer, the one within the
skull, seems to be rapidly loosing flexibility and efficiency
after an uptime of more than 75 years.

I have tried to sum up the important data using the names in
the following paragraph. Real names are different, of course.
All this is a bit lengthy, but since I avoid opening attach-
ments wherever I can i think it is better to leave it in the
body of the posting..


OLD -   old computer, Intel Pentium 4 2.40 GHz,
Debian Testing, Kernel 2.6.17-2-686 (Debian 2.6.
17-9); INTERFACES eth0 and eth1
NEW -   new computer, AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 4200+.
Debian Testing, Kernel 2.6.17-2-amd64 (Debian 2.
6.17-9); ETCH NETINST daily build 17.10.06;
INTERFACES eth0 (?Firewire? - weird MAC-address)
and eth1 WHICH I CHANGED TO oth0 and oth1 in
/etc/udev/rules.d/z25_persistent-net.rules(and
eth* to oth* in /etc/udev/rules.d/z45_persistent
-net-generator.rules) to avoid ambivalent names
when trying to configure bridge br0
ISP -   my cable provider
e0:0e:e0:0e:e0:0e   MAC-address of eth1 interface in OLD
xxx.xx.xxx. the first three dotted decimals of the address
received from my provider (officially dynamic,
but since years never changing)

/etc/hosts

OLD:

127.0.0.1   localhost
192.168.1.1 OLD.local   OLD
192.168.1.2 OLD.ISP.at  ISP
192.168.1.3 NEW.local   NEW
NEW:

127.0.0.1   localhost
192.168.1.3 NEW.local   NEW
192.168.1.1 OLD.local   OLD
AND IN THE FILES /etc/hosts OF BOTH COMPUTERS another 6 IPv6 capable
hosts which up to now are neither used nor commented out

/etc/hosts.allow:   /etc/hosts.deny:

OLD ALL: OLD NEWOLD:ALL: ALL
NEW ALL: NEW OLDNEW:ALL: ALL

/etc/networks

OLD:

localnet 192.168.1.0
NEW:

localnet 192.168.1.0

/etc/network/interfaces

OLD:

# The loopback interface
auto lo
iface lo inet loopback
# The first network card
up sysctl -w net.ipv4.ip_forward=1
auto eth0
iface eth0 inet dhcp
address 192.168.1.2
netmask 255.255.255.0
inet_route add default gw 192.168.1.0/24
up iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 192.168.1.0/24 -o eth0\
-j MASQUERADE
#*# Shouldn't these two lines be enough to guarantee
dhcp access for BOTH computers ??? #*#
# The second network card
auto eth1
iface eth1 inet static
address 192.168.1.1
netmask 255.255.255.0
up iptables -A FORWARD -s 192.168.1.3 -d 192.168.1.2
up iptables -A FORWARD -s 192.168.1.2 -d 192.168.1.3
#*# Two lines added because route and MASQUERADE of
eth0 seemed useless, but didn't help either #*#
#*# TRIED after setting eth0 to inet static,
but TOTALLY COMMENTED OUT after resetting
eth0 to dhcp because the br0 did not find
oth0: #*#
# auto br0
# iface br0 inet dhcp
#   inet_route add default gw 192.168.1.0/24
#   bridge_ports eth0 eth1 oth1
#   bridge_hw e0:0e:e0:0e:e0:0e
NEW:

# The loopback interface
auto lo
iface lo inet loopback
# The second network card
up sysctl -w net.ipv4.ip_forward=1
au

Re: apt-show-versions works not so well with Testing

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> On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 12:33:16 -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> 
>> "$ reportbug apt-show-versions" is your friend. :)
> 
> My ISP will TLS email authentication is my barrier to get it through. :-)

reportbug lets you write the text out to a flat file, which you can
then past into the Yahoo compose screen.


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Re: Adding more than one IP Address

[Russell L. Harris]

* Amit Joshi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [061112 13:26]:
> I am sort of stuck up. I need to put more than one IP address due to my 
> strange requirement. I am in a situation where there are multiple gateways, 
> and so I need multiple addresses for the respective gateways. 
... 
> Is there a way to add multiple IP addresses, for the same Network card in 
> Debian?

A good discussion of this can be found in Debian Reference, Chapter 10, 
"Network Configuration".


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Re: mysql upgrade broke server

[Russell Weatherburn]

Wackojacko wrote:
> Kevin Mark wrote:
>> On Fri, Nov 10, 2006 at 05:57:13PM -0500, Rick Pasotto wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>>> I used 'querybts' *after* apt-get broke my installation. Are you in the
>>> habit of checking for bugs on *every* package before upgrading it?
>>> I'm not.
>> Hi Rick,
>> as you suggest, I dont check for bugs before upgrading. But I do check
>> after, if there is a problem. 
> 
> 
> 
>> Kev
> 
> Do you have apt-listbugs installed.  This lists all open bugs for every
> package that is going to be upgraded so if you see one that might affect
> your system, you can investigate further before accepting the upgrade.
> 
> HTH
> 
> Wackojacko
> 
> 
Just a note:
apt-listbugs does not work correctly on Sarge.  Stupidly, in fact.  I
have been told that it was supposed to be removed from Sarge because it
doesn't work properly against the BTS, but on two systems I run it
(seems to) works, but on a system that I have running a Sarge/BP/Testing
blend (don't ask) it doesn't work at all.  Period.

I would love to be able to run apt-listbugs, but cannot in my current
arrangement (see Bug# 389903 for further information on my case)

Regards,

Russell

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How to install package from mentors.debian.net ?

[Mathieu Malaterre]

I would like to install the following package:

http://mentors.debian.net/cgi-bin/sponsor-pkglist?action=details;package=bugle

but I cannot find any help on how to do that.

I simply tried adding the following two lines:

deb http://mentors.debian.net/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free
deb-src http://mentors.debian.net/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free

but all I get is:


Failed to fetch
http://mentors.debian.net/debian/dists/unstable/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz
404 Not Found
Failed to fetch
http://mentors.debian.net/debian/dists/unstable/contrib/binary-i386/Packages.gz
404 Not Found
Failed to fetch
http://mentors.debian.net/debian/dists/unstable/non-free/binary-i386/Packages.gz
404 Not Found
Reading package lists... Done
W: Couldn't stat source package list http://mentors.debian.net
unstable/main Packages
(/var/lib/apt/lists/mentors.debian.net_debian_dists_unstable_main_binary-i386_Packages)
- stat (2 No such file or directory)
W: Couldn't stat source package list http://mentors.debian.net
unstable/contrib Packages
(/var/lib/apt/lists/mentors.debian.net_debian_dists_unstable_contrib_binary-i386_Packages)
- stat (2 No such file or directory)
W: Couldn't stat source package list http://mentors.debian.net
unstable/non-free Packages
(/var/lib/apt/lists/mentors.debian.net_debian_dists_unstable_non-free_binary-i386_Packages)
- stat (2 No such file or directory)
W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old
ones used instead.

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Re: ia64

[Marko Randjelovic]

Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote:

Are you sure? 3DNow! instructions are vector instructions, they aren't
usually used in ordinary code. -march=athlon64 (and k6,k7/athlon) doesn't
necessarily mean that the gcc will use those instructions...
  

Why wouldn't if suitable?

From gcc manual:

k8, opteron, athlon64, athlon-fx
AMD K8 core based CPUs with x86-64 instruction set support. (This 
supersets MMX, SSE, SSE2, 3dNOW!, enhanced 3dNOW! and 64-bit instruction 
set extensions.)



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RE: Reload KDE menus without logging out?

[Stephen Yorke]

Not sure about KDE but others (like FluxBox) you can reload the WM with
a right click, reload.

I am sure KDE has some sort of reload function buried within it.

-Stephen 

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I've noticed that occasionally a new program won't show up in my KDE or
Debian menus until after I close and restart the X session. Is there a
way to force KDE to reread its available menus without logging out
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Re: Wanted: decent GNOME player with MP4/AAC support

[Kelly Clowers]

On 11/12/06, André Wendt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Kelly Clowers schrieb:
>
> Do you have Marillat's "gstreamer0.10-plugins-really-bad" package
> installed? It uses libfaad2 which is apparently the best aac decoder
> out there. If you have that, Rhythmbox and Banshee should be able
> to handle aac.

Thanks for the info. In fact, I have the package installed, but still
cannot play AAC. I just reinstalled rhythmbox, maybe I installed them in
wrong order before and something got messed up. (I don't know a lot
about music libraries and plugins.)

I'll report back if I made any progress.

Regards,
André


I got some .m4a files and tested them in Rhythmbox and Amarok.
They worked fine, but I see there are reports of some aac files working
and others not working.

What errors do you get when trying to import the files? You say you
have aac/mp4 files; are the extensions .mp4 or .aac or both? If some
have different extensions, have you tried importing just one file at a
time to see if it fails on one type but not the other?

Also, take a look at this bug:
https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg/+bug/48727

Maybe it's a tag problem.


Cheers,
Kelly

Re: Recommendation for build environment(s)

[hendrik]

On Sat, Nov 11, 2006 at 09:53:52PM +0200, Maxim Vexler wrote:
> On 11/9/06, Kevin Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >On Wed, Nov 08, 2006 at 11:50:28AM +0200, Maxim Vexler wrote:
> >> Hello list,
> >>
> >> A "general question email".
> >>
> >> I'd like to get a recommendations on build environments setups,
> >> available today in the Linux world. Build environments should support
> >> C/C++ code.

This may seem out of left field, but have a look at smarteiffel: it's a 
different programming language, but is very compatible with C -- its 
compiler generates C code.  My son recently tried using Eiffel and 
reports that he has never needed the debugger to find out what his 
programs were doing, whereas it was an essential tool with C.  In short, 
Eiffel catches a lot of errors at compile time, and correctly deals with 
the storage management issues that cause so much grief with C/C++.

The Debian packages for smarteiffel are woefully out of date last time I 
looked; you are better off downloading it from the 
smarteiffel web site and compiling it yourself:
http://smarteiffel.loria.fr/

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Re: Adding more than one IP Address

[Roberto C. Sanchez]

On Mon, Nov 13, 2006 at 12:53:28AM +0530, Amit Joshi wrote:
> I am sort of stuck up. I need to put more than one IP address due to my 
> strange requirement. I am in a situation where there are multiple gateways, 
> and so I need multiple addresses for the respective gateways. 
> 
> Windows provides an easy way to do this. 
> I was more of a SuSE user, so I am kinda used to YaST pretty much. 
> Is there a way to add multiple IP addresses, for the same Network card in 
> Debian?
> 
Do you need this one network card to make use of multiple gateways, or
do you need this one network to have traffic arrive to it at multiple IP
addresses?

Regards,

-Roberto

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Re: Kernel compile the old way

[John Hasler]

I wrote:
> For a distribution kernel it provides support for all possible
> permutations and combinations of hardware.  I don't know of any
> advantages for a custom kernel.

Manoj Srivastava writes:
> Well, I have a fully encrypted laptop hard drive, apart from a 42MB /boot
> (including encrypted swap).  Now way to do that without using an initrd
> image.

Obviously, there are special situations.  I've seen it claimed that
everyone should always use initrd, but without explanation.
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Re: List packages by releases

[T]

On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 11:50:54 +0530, Amit Joshi wrote:

> Not sure why your apt-show-versions can't distinguish between unstable and 
> testing.

I'm a little pregnant. :-)

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Re: apt-show-versions works not so well with Testing

[T]

On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 12:33:16 -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:

> "$ reportbug apt-show-versions" is your friend. :)

My ISP will TLS email authentication is my barrier to get it through. :-)

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Adding more than one IP Address

[Amit Joshi]

I am sort of stuck up. I need to put more than one IP address due to my 
strange requirement. I am in a situation where there are multiple gateways, 
and so I need multiple addresses for the respective gateways. 

Windows provides an easy way to do this. 
I was more of a SuSE user, so I am kinda used to YaST pretty much. 
Is there a way to add multiple IP addresses, for the same Network card in 
Debian?

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Re: smooth upgrades

[Roberto C. Sanchez]

On Sun, Nov 12, 2006 at 11:12:39AM -0800, tom arnall wrote:
> 
> of the two versions of Debian - unstable and testing - which is the most 
> likely to provide smooth upgrades?
> 

What do you mean by smooth upgrades?  If you are the sort of person who
likes to update every day, then unstable is more likely to your taste.
If you want to start out now and track it until it becomes stable,
testing is much more likely to make that smooth.

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smooth upgrades

[tom arnall]

of the two versions of Debian - unstable and testing - which is the most 
likely to provide smooth upgrades?

thanks,

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Re: Kernel compile the old way

[Manoj Srivastava]

On Sat, 11 Nov 2006 10:30:19 -0600, John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: 

> Amit Joshi writes:
>> What exactly are the advantages of using an initrd?

> For a distribution kernel it provides support for all possible
> permutations and combinations of hardware.  I don't know of any
> advantages for a custom kernel.

Well, I have a fully encrypted laptop hard drive, apart from a
 42MB /boot (including encrypted swap).  Now way to do that without
 using an initrd image.

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Re: apt-show-versions works not so well with Testing

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> On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 09:01:20 -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> 
>>> I found that apt-show-versions works not so well with Testing -- packages
>>> already up to date are still shown as "upgradeable"...
>>>
>>> Is there any way I can fix it? 
>>> Else, I hope the tool be enhanced. 
>> Since you're running a mixed system, apt-show-versions is perfectly
>> correct in saying that you can upgrade from 0.37 to 0.38.
> 
> Actually no. I'm mainly on Testing. The packages borrowed from unstable
> can be counted with my fingers from a single hand. :-)

A little pregnant is still pregnant...

>> I don't see anything in the man page about an option similar to
>> "apt-get --target-release".
> 
> Me neither, that's why I think apt-show-versions does not suite
> well with Testing, and need to be enhanced.

"$ reportbug apt-show-versions" is your friend. :)

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Re: Kernel compile the old way

[Bernard Adrian]

John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit : 

> Initrd is an extra bit of complexity at bootup but it makes no difference
> once the system is up.  Don't worry about it.

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Re: DVD playback problems

[steef]

Marko Randjelovic wrote:

Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:

On Sat, Nov 11, 2006 at 07:05:26PM +, Piers Kittel wrote:
  
 

//

# /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/./install-css.sh

  


Datum point - this is probably true only for Sarge / Etch.

Not in Sid - which currently suggests that you fetch the package
for libdvdcss2 from debian-unofficial.

Andy
 

  


I run Etch and don't have this file


[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# ls /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/
changelog.Debian.gz  changelog.gz  copyright  README.Debian  TODO
---

But there is something in kaffeine which is not installed on my system.

---
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# apt-file update
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# apt-file search install-css.sh
kaffeine: usr/share/doc/kaffeine/install-css.sh
---



did not follow this thread. i answer therefore offline for once.

google for *marillat* this chap (french) owns a website with the files 
you want.


good luck,

steef


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Re: Etch kernel

[Marko Randjelovic]

Amit Joshi wrote:

On Sunday 12 November 2006 19:29, Colin wrote:
  

Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:


Hope that's true and that they stay with a 2.6.17 kernel...
  

Why not a 2.6.18 kernel?



If the OP wants to know what kernel will be shipped with the Official Release 
of Debian Etch, then I think its gonna be the 2.6.17 Kernel. Cuz as most of 
us already know, whenever an Debian releases a new version, the software is 
rigorously tested. So I guess they will keep up wih the already_in_testing 
kernel - 2.6.17 (I don't know what sub-version-number will be used though. 
2.6.17-2 ..maybe! )


Again, Sarge was released when there were 2.6 kernel versions lying around. 
But the Debian developers decided to include the 2.4 kernel as the default 
one. Reason being the kernel was exhaustively tested for stability. 

But I guess if the user wants to use some other version of kernel, it maybe 
included in the CD too. (tagged as unstable)
For example, the Sarge CDs provide the 2.6.8 (tagged as unstable) kernel. 

Regards, 
Amit. 
  
I am even surprised they went this far ahead. When Sarge was released 
with 2.6.8, there was already 2.6.11 (three releases back). And Debian 
4.0 should be released in December with 2.6.17 and newest is 2.6.18 
(only one release back).


I am afraid next release will not be so stable, or they will delay it. 
What do you think?



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Re: ASCII file to ISO-8859-* to UTF-8

[s. keeling]

Andrea Ganduglia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>  Hi. I have a lots ascii file with ecoding iso-8859-* and I must
>  convert those in UTF-8. How?

man recode


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Re: DVD playback problems

[Marko Randjelovic]

Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:

On Sat, Nov 11, 2006 at 07:05:26PM +, Piers Kittel wrote:
  

  

//

# /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/./install-css.sh

  


Datum point - this is probably true only for Sarge / Etch.

Not in Sid - which currently suggests that you fetch the package
for libdvdcss2 from debian-unofficial.

Andy
  



  


I run Etch and don't have this file


[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# ls /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/
changelog.Debian.gz  changelog.gz  copyright  README.Debian  TODO
---

But there is something in kaffeine which is not installed on my system.

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kaffeine: usr/share/doc/kaffeine/install-css.sh
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Re: module not found: how to configure the loading of modules?

[Wackojacko]

Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

Mertens Bram wrote:

On 2006-11-12, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

Mertens Bram wrote:

On 2006-11-11, Wackojacko wrote:

Have you tried running 'depmod' command to rescan modules directory.

No I haven't because I am not sure what it does.  I ran accross this
command but could not find much documentation about it.  Will this
have an effect on the other kernels (including ones I will still
compile)?

TIA

Bram


man depmod

[...]
I'm no expert but it seems to suggest it acts only on the running 
kernel unless you specify a different module directory.

I had read the manpage but was hoping to find some more documentation
about this subject...

Anyway I ran depmod and rebooted and everything works fine, thanks!

Still: is there no general documentation on how modules are loaded and
how this can be configured in debian?


Did you figure out what depmod did to make the reboot find the module?


Not really, it appears to have added a line to the modules.dep file.
But I haven't found much information on the use of this file yet.

Regards

Bram



Yes, that's too bad. I am in the same boat. With the modules I use, 
everything works (TM) but how come?


Hugo


AFAICT, this file tells modprobe which modules depend on which and in 
what order they are loaded. Even if there are no dependencies the module 
has to be listed in this file otherwise modprobe wont know it exists.


man modules.dep doesn't add much though:)

HTH

Wackojacko


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Re: C++ exception handling question

[John L Fjellstad]

Paul E Condon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Thanks for stack profiling info. I wonder if this _is_ a reportable
> bug. After all, there is a lot of information on the 'bad_alloc'
> exception in various sources. If GNU C++ library doesn't try to throw
> this exception until it is too late for the throw to succeed, what
> good is it? And, how was its operation verified during testing on a
> Debain box? At the point where it kill happens, I think the program is
> allocating space for the contents of large STL vector of vectors.  It
> doesn't seem to me that this should be done on the stack, but I
> haven't thought deeply on the issue.

One thing you might not be aware of is that Linux overcommit the
memory.  That is, even if there is no memory left, it might tell the
program that it has enough, since it expect that by the time you use the
memory, it will be available. It's controlled by
/proc/sys/vm/overcommit_memory. 

Check the man page for malloc (look under BUGS), and do some search in
your favorite search engine.

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Re: Etch kernel

[Amit Joshi]

On Sunday 12 November 2006 19:29, Colin wrote:
> Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
> > Hope that's true and that they stay with a 2.6.17 kernel...
>
> Why not a 2.6.18 kernel?

If the OP wants to know what kernel will be shipped with the Official Release 
of Debian Etch, then I think its gonna be the 2.6.17 Kernel. Cuz as most of 
us already know, whenever an Debian releases a new version, the software is 
rigorously tested. So I guess they will keep up wih the already_in_testing 
kernel - 2.6.17 (I don't know what sub-version-number will be used though. 
2.6.17-2 ..maybe! )

Again, Sarge was released when there were 2.6 kernel versions lying around. 
But the Debian developers decided to include the 2.4 kernel as the default 
one. Reason being the kernel was exhaustively tested for stability. 

But I guess if the user wants to use some other version of kernel, it maybe 
included in the CD too. (tagged as unstable)
For example, the Sarge CDs provide the 2.6.8 (tagged as unstable) kernel. 

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Re: Kernel compile the old way

[Bernard Adrian]

Bernard Adrian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit : 


[...]

> I'm compiling a custom kernel (2.6.1) with initrd for my system (AMD K6-II 64

Oups : i wanted to say kernel 2.6.17 and no 2.6.1

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Re: Daily update package archive

[s. keeling]

T <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
>  What is the recommended way to 'aptitude update' daily and update the
>  files in /var/cache/apt/archives/ as well (without actually install
>  anything)? 
> 
>  Or, anywhere I can read up about it?

man aptitude:

   -d, --download-only
  Download packages to the package cache as necessary, but do  not  
install
  or   remove  anything.  By  default,  the  package  cache  is  stored 
 in
  /var/cache/apt/archives.

  This corresponds to  the  configuration  option  
Aptitude::CmdLine::Down-
  load-Only.


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Re: Kernel compile the old way

[John Hasler]

Bernard Adrian writes:
> Should i understand my system would work better if i install the same
> kernel without initrd ?

Initrd is an extra bit of complexity at bootup but it makes no difference
once the system is up.  Don't worry about it.
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Re: mutt, gnome terminal, xemacs, gnuserv, debian etch

[s. keeling]

Chris Bannister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>  On Sun, Nov 05, 2006 at 07:15:54PM +, s. keeling wrote:
> > Chris Bannister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > >  On Fri, Nov 03, 2006 at 02:47:21PM -0600, Russell L. Harris wrote:
> > > > The package chain is as follows:
> > > > 
> > > > INCOMING MAIL:  pop3 server @ my ISP -->  getmail4  -->  maildrop  -->  
> > > > [maildir]  --> mutt
> > 
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] --> fetchmail --> procmail --> mutt
> 
>  So fetchmail doesn't send it through exim4?

Actually, it does, but it doesn't have to:

>  from man fetchmail ...
>  [..]
>  If no port 25 listener is available, but your  fetchmail
>  configuration was  told  about  a  reliable local MDA, it will use
>  that MDA for local delivery instead.

So, if .fetchmailrc contains a line saying your MDA is procmail,
fetchmail hands it to procmail.  No MTA needed.

>  An MTA is priority standard.

Yes, but not mandatory.

> > A working Exim config can be very picky about a couple of lower level
> > options, such as re-writing headers and hiding header re-writing.
> > With those set wrong, mail will look alright until you send to a
> > system that's more suspicious, and your mail will go silently into the
> 
>  I think I see what you are saying. Is there a command to check the
>  config?

None that I know of.  My tests include sending mail to a couple of
seriously picky servers.  If it gets through them, the config is
correct.

>  Is the checking not good enough? So the system that's more
>  suspicious would not be exim?

The system that's more suspicious is simply more stringent about what
it considers valid mail.  Ie., IP address lookups before acceptance &
etc.  I've no idea what MTA they use, nor do I much care.  For me,
it's enough that that black box out there is authoritative.


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Re: module not found: how to configure the loading of modules?

[Hugo Vanwoerkom]

Mertens Bram wrote:

On 2006-11-12, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

Mertens Bram wrote:

On 2006-11-11, Wackojacko wrote:

Have you tried running 'depmod' command to rescan modules directory.

No I haven't because I am not sure what it does.  I ran accross this
command but could not find much documentation about it.  Will this
have an effect on the other kernels (including ones I will still
compile)?

TIA

Bram


man depmod

[...]
I'm no expert but it seems to suggest it acts only on the running kernel 
unless you specify a different module directory.

I had read the manpage but was hoping to find some more documentation
about this subject...

Anyway I ran depmod and rebooted and everything works fine, thanks!

Still: is there no general documentation on how modules are loaded and
how this can be configured in debian?


Did you figure out what depmod did to make the reboot find the module?


Not really, it appears to have added a line to the modules.dep file.
But I haven't found much information on the use of this file yet.

Regards

Bram



Yes, that's too bad. I am in the same boat. With the modules I use, 
everything works (TM) but how come?


Hugo












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Re: ftp.tux.org errors during apt package updates

[Hugo Vanwoerkom]

Ross Boylan wrote:

On Sat, Nov 11, 2006 at 04:13:25PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

For about two weeks, I have been getting the following
errors when running 'aptitude update' or 'apt-get update':

[snip] 
W: Couldn't stat source package list ftp://ftp.tux.org etch/non-free Packages 
(/var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.tux.org_java_debian_dists_etch_non-free_binary-i386_

Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)

[snip]
I have gone to http://www.tux.org/, but I don't see any info 
there that would indicate that they are having problems.


I can eliminate the error by commenting out the ftp.tux.org line
in /etc/apt/sources.list, but I don't know what packages this might 
effect.


Is anybody else having problems with ftp.tux.org?



Yes.  I believe there's a note somewhere on the site about the server being
down.  I just commented out the line in sources.list.

There are mirrors; I don't know if they are doing any better.  I'm also not
entirely sure the Blackdown Java packages (at least, that's what I use the
site for) are the best way to go anymore, or are even current.  For example,
the firefox installation notes say to get java direct from Sun.  The
free javas have supposedly become quite capable too.

Ross Boylan





After using Blackdown Java for years and not being able to figure out 
how to use it in Sid now, I switched to apt-get install sun-java5-jre 
sun-java5-plugin. And java worked again. I also got FF that way, but 
version 1.5 while I had 2.0 already installed from their site.


Hugo





















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Re: Kernel compile the old way

[Bernard Adrian]

John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit : 

> For a distribution kernel it provides support for all possible permutations
> and combinations of hardware.  I don't know of any advantages for a custom
> kernel.

Huh,

I'm compiling a custom kernel (2.6.1) with initrd for my system (AMD K6-II 64
Mo RAM). I get an initrd.img of 2.4 Mo. Ext3 and so are not in modules.

Should i understand my system would work better if i install the same
kernel without initrd ?

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Re: apt-get upgrade vs apt-get dist-upgrade

[T]

On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 10:08:37 -0500, Ralph Katz wrote:

>> BUGS
>>This manpage isn't even started.
> 
> That page /also/ says:
> 
> SEE ALSO
>apt-cache(8), apt-get(8), apt.conf(5), sources.list(5)
> 
> 
> man apt-get   has exactly what you want.

thanks, got it.

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Re: apt-show-versions works not so well with Testing

[T]

On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 09:01:20 -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:

>> I found that apt-show-versions works not so well with Testing -- packages
>> already up to date are still shown as "upgradeable"...
>> 
>> Is there any way I can fix it? 
>> Else, I hope the tool be enhanced. 
> 
> Since you're running a mixed system, apt-show-versions is perfectly
> correct in saying that you can upgrade from 0.37 to 0.38.

Actually no. I'm mainly on Testing. The packages borrowed from unstable
can be counted with my fingers from a single hand. :-)

> I don't see anything in the man page about an option similar to
> "apt-get --target-release".

Me neither, that's why I think apt-show-versions does not suite
well with Testing, and need to be enhanced.

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Re: Etch kernel

[mess-mate]

Hugo Vanwoerkom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| Nicolas Pillot wrote:
| >2006/11/12, ccostin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
| >>What version of kernel will have Debian Etch ?
| >kernel-image-2.6.17-2 methinks
| 
| Hope that's true and that they stay with a 2.6.17 kernel...
| 
Why ??
I've the 17 and a self-compiled 2.6.18 kernel.
Both works great.


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Re: apt-get upgrade vs apt-get dist-upgrade

[Ralph Katz]

On 11/11/2006 10:40 PM, T wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> where can I find the difference between apt-get upgrade and apt-get
> dist-upgrade?
> 
> I have always been using apt-get upgrade, but according to
> http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/43
> it is not correct: 
> 
> ,-
> | apt-get upgrade is not correct, it is only recommended for the stable
> | distribution. If you're using testing or unstable do apt-get -du
> | dist-upgrade or dselect-upgrade. Read the fabulous manual if you wonder why.
> `-
> 
> So where can I find the fabulous manual?
> 
> Manual page of apt:
> 
> BUGS
>This manpage isn't even started.
> 

That page /also/ says:

SEE ALSO
   apt-cache(8), apt-get(8), apt.conf(5), sources.list(5)


man apt-get   has exactly what you want.

Regards,
Ralph


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Re: apt-show-versions works not so well with Testing

[Ron Johnson]

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On 11/11/06 22:16, T wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I found that apt-show-versions works not so well with Testing -- packages
> already up to date are still shown as "upgradeable":
> 
>  $ apt-show-versions | grep tex-common
>  tex-common/unstable upgradeable from 0.37 to 0.38
> 
>  $ apt-cache policy tex-common
>  tex-common:
>Installed: 0.37
>Candidate: 0.37
>Version table:
>   0.38 0
> 50 http://mirror.peer1.net unstable/main Packages
>   *** 0.37 0
>600 http://mirror.peer1.net etch/main Packages
>100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
> 
> Is there any way I can fix it? 
> Else, I hope the tool be enhanced. 

Since you're running a mixed system, apt-show-versions is perfectly
correct in saying that you can upgrade from 0.37 to 0.38.

I don't see anything in the man page about an option similar to
"apt-get --target-release".

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Re: module not found: how to configure the loading of modules?

[Mertens Bram]

On 2006-11-12, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
> Mertens Bram wrote:
> >On 2006-11-11, Wackojacko wrote:
> Have you tried running 'depmod' command to rescan modules directory.
> >>>No I haven't because I am not sure what it does.  I ran accross this
> >>>command but could not find much documentation about it.  Will this
> >>>have an effect on the other kernels (including ones I will still
> >>>compile)?
> >>>
> >>>TIA
> >>>
> >>>Bram
> >>>
> >>man depmod
> >[...]
> >>I'm no expert but it seems to suggest it acts only on the running kernel 
> >>unless you specify a different module directory.
> >
> >I had read the manpage but was hoping to find some more documentation
> >about this subject...
> >
> >Anyway I ran depmod and rebooted and everything works fine, thanks!
> >
> >Still: is there no general documentation on how modules are loaded and
> >how this can be configured in debian?
> >
> 
> Did you figure out what depmod did to make the reboot find the module?

Not really, it appears to have added a line to the modules.dep file.
But I haven't found much information on the use of this file yet.

Regards

Bram

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Re: Etch kernel

[Colin]

Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:


Hope that's true and that they stay with a 2.6.17 kernel...



Why not a 2.6.18 kernel?


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Re: cs4232 soundcard

[David Baron]

On Sunday 12 November 2006 04:04, Mark Grieveson wrote:
> Hello.  I have an old IBM laptop (Thinkpad 770) and I'm trying to get
> the soundcard working on it.  I have run alsaconf, with the following
> result:
>
> FATAL: Error inserting snd-cs4232
> (/lib/modules/2.6.17-2-486/updates/alsa/isa/cd423x/snd-cs4232.ko): no
> such device.  /usr/sbin/alsactl: save_state:1254: no soundcards found.
>
> This is after it has stated that it found the soundcard, and was setting
> it up.  After giving me the above message, it mocks me be saying that
> everything is set up, and telling me to enjoy my soundcard.
>
> I'm using Debian Etch.  I have also tried running alsaconf after
> installing alsa-source with module-assistant.  It also did not work.
>
> All suggestions appreciated.

I believe that there is NO ALSA support for this card. There is a recent OSS 
driver but we use ALSA.

There was another soundcard using this chip, the "pdplus". This has been taken 
out of ALSA. I can give you pdplus.c but I do not know whether this will 
help. Email me off list if you want it.

There is yet another soundcard which uses the same interface chip as the 
es1968 and two cs4232 chips, the dman2044. This has no ALSA support and the 
manufacturer neither still supports it nor will open the sources so someone 
else can play with it. Pity--a decent card with a nice solid breakout box!


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