Un menu amb dialog

2006-11-25 Thread Lluís Gras
Bones !!!

Com que no tinc etherconf m'he apadaçat un script per configurar la xarxa.

Però no sé com fer que em faci un menú decent amb les interfícies provades
i la informació de cadascuna. Veure definició de $MANU una mica més avall.


#!/bin/bash

TMP=/tmp/netconfig.tmp$$

NETDEVICES=$(echo `cat /proc/net/dev | egrep eth | cut -d : -f 1 | cut
-c3-6`)

for DEVICE in $NETDEVICES

do

ID=$(cat /sys/class/net/$DEVICE/device/device | cut -d x -f 2)

BUS=$(lspci -n | egrep $ID | cut -d   -f 1)

#A continuació els meus problemes.
#Aquest funciona.
MANU=$(lspci | egrep $BUS | cut -d : -f 3 | cut -d   -f 2 )

#Aquest també però no com jo voldria.
#MANU=$(lspci | egrep $BUS | cut -d : -f 3 )

i=$(echo `cat /proc/net/dev | egrep $DEVICE | cut -d : -f 1 | cut -c6`)

eth[$i]=$MANU

prova=$prova eth$i ${eth[$i]}

done

dialog --title Configuració Xarxa --menu Selecciona la interfície a
configurar 15 80 12 `echo $prova` 2 $TMP

read iface $TMP

[ ! -d /tmp/setup.opts ]  mkdir /tmp/setup.opts
cd /tmp/setup.opts
dialog --title Configuració Xarxa --menu Esteu configurant la
interfície $iface. Tria una opció: 20 60 7 0 DHCP 1 Configuració
Manual 2 $iface.1
mynetsel=`cat $iface.1`
case $mynetsel in
0)
/sbin/pump -i $iface
;;
1)
dialog --title Adreça IP --inputbox Entra una IP per a la interfície
$iface: 20 50 192.168.1.1 2 $iface.IP
dialog --title Adreça de Difusió --inputbox Entra la adreça de 
difusió
per a $iface: 20 50 192.168.1.255 2 $iface.B
dialog --title Màscara de Xarxa --inputbox Entra la màscara de xarxa
per a la interfície $iface: 20 50 255.255.255.0 2 $iface.NM
dialog --title Passarel·la --inputbox Entra la passarel·la per 
defecte
$iface: 20 50 2 $iface.GW
dialog --title Servidor DNS --inputbox Entra un servidor de DNS 20 
50
2 $iface.NS
/sbin/ifconfig $iface `cat $iface.IP` broadcast `cat $iface.B` netmask
`cat $iface.NM`
myroute=`cat $iface.GW`
if [ $myroute !=  ]
then
/sbin/route add default gw $myroute dev $iface netmask 0.0.0.0 
metric 1
fi
myns=`cat $iface.NS`
if [ $myns =  ]
then
:  /etc/resolv.conf
else
echo nameserver $myns  /etc/resolv.conf
fi
;;
esac
echo Resultats de ifconfig:

/sbin/ifconfig $iface

echo Fem un ping a la passarel·la per comprovar la conectivitat:

/bin/ping -c 1 $myroute

rm -rf /tmp/setup.opts
rm -f $TMP

Algú que hi entengui i estigui avorrit per donar-me un cop de ma.


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Re: Nvidia [cotxina]

2006-11-25 Thread Benjamí Villoslada
El Divendres 24 Novembre 2006 16:19, rpb va escriure:
 Si no recordo malament, dels temps en que tenia una Gforce, els
 drivers de nvidia necessiten ser compilats contra el nucli que estigui
 en execució en aquell moment, o no van. Per tant, si has canviat el
 nucli genèric per un de propi i intentes instal·lar paquets
 precompilats, et dirà que naranjas de la china si no va acompanyat
 del nucli dels seus amors.

Sí, és el que tenc ara instal·lat, pel meu kernel «custom»:

$ dpkg -l *nvidia*|grep ^i | awk '{print $2, $3}'
nvidia-glx 1.0.8774-6
nvidia-kernel-2.6.16.18-smp-bitassa 1.0.8774-6+20060528.01
nvidia-kernel-common 20051028+1
nvidia-kernel-source 1.0.8774-6

Per això m'estranya aquesta fixació a voler baixar un kernel... per k7! (tenc 
un Intel)

  La ventatja dels nvidieros és que l'instalador de nvidia acostuma a
 anar molt bé, sempre que es tinguin les fonts del nucli en qüestió
 (potser avui en dia n'hi ha prou amb els headers). Això és el que feia
 jo, i a cada actualització del nucli, nova instal·lació de drivers.

Ara és el meu dilema: o seguir amb la Debian way of nVidia i el 
module-assistant, com fins ara, o esperar si això del kernel k7 és un bug, o 
informar-me més de la història. 

O potser posar el kernel 2.6.18 d'estoc, perquè veig que ja hi és, i així 
rebré actualitzacions, que l'actual és cosa meva.

 Per les ATI, això era tant traumàtic que vaig decidir tibar de nuclis
 precompilats, i instal·lar drivers precompilats de ubuntu.

Així que nVidia és el menys dolent, ara mateix.  Ho dic per si algú tresca per 
aquí (que em consta) pensant en ordinador nou ;)


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Re: scanner agfa e26

2006-11-25 Thread Johann Läderach
Bonjour,
Le samedi 25 novembre 2006 08:49, Bruno Berteau a écrit :
 Bonjour,

 Je n'arrive pas à faire fonctionner mon scanner agfa snapscan e26 sur
 une debian sarge avec un noyau 2.6.10.
 Au branchement il y a ça dans /var/log/messages :

 sane-find-scanner ça:

 found USB scanner (vendor=0x06bd [AGFA], product=0x2097 [SNAPSCAN]) at
 libusb:003:004
 found USB scanner (vendor=0x0471, product=0x0310) at libusb:002:002

 scanimage -L :

 No scanners were identified. If you were expecting something different,...

Regardez le user et le groupe  du port USB du scanner dans /dev/bus/usb/

Le groupe devrait être 'scanner' ou qqch comme ça. Controlez que l'utilisateur 
est dans le groupe 'scanner'.

vous pouvez aussi essayer 'scanimage -L' en root.


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Re: scanner agfa e26

2006-11-25 Thread Bruno Berteau

Johann Läderach a écrit :


Regardez le user et le groupe  du port USB du scanner dans /dev/bus/usb/

Le groupe devrait être 'scanner' ou qqch comme ça. Controlez que l'utilisateur 
est dans le groupe 'scanner'.


vous pouvez aussi essayer 'scanimage -L' en root.
  

Bonjour,

L'utilisateur est bien dans le groupe scanner. Les sorties des commandes 
sont identiques en root et en utilisateur normal.
/dev/bus/usb/ n'existe pas chez moi ni d'ailleurs le périphérique 
/dev/usbscanner et /dev/usb/scanner0 non plus. J'ai un noyau 2.6.10 avec 
udev.


Merci.

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Re: mais bon, on est vendredi : serveur de news

2006-11-25 Thread fabrice régnier
Il faut désormais forcer l'authentification pour avoir accès aux autres 
hiérarchies depuis une connexion autre que par Free. 

tout simplement.

merci ;)

f.


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Re: [Un peu HS][rsync] Quel intérêt de rsyncd ?

2006-11-25 Thread fabrice régnier

salut,

Est-ce que c'est plus rapide que de passer par ssh, j'ai des serveurs 
sur mon réseau local et je pense que SSH plombe les taux de transferts 
(1,2Mo/s au maximum)...


as-tu pensé à utiliser l'otion -C de scp ou sftp ?

f.


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Pb Wine et DLL

2006-11-25 Thread Yann Cohen
Bonjour,

J'essaie de lancer WIne sur une parttion Vfat qui contient Windows XP
PRo

La partition est automatiquement montée.

SI je lance un wine explorer.exe, j'ai une erreur liée à l'échec d'un
DLL BROWSEUI.dll...

Celle ci existe bien mais en minuscule !

Comment faire ?

Conf de wine ou du munt ?

Merci
Yann.



Re: [TESTING][apache2][php5]

2006-11-25 Thread Zuthos
Zuthos a écrit :
 |  Pour cela vérifie, il doit être présent dans
| |  /etc/apache2/mods-available/ et il doit y avoir le lien dans
| |  /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/
| | 
| | Vérifie dans ton /etc/apache2/apache2.conf que la ligne suivante est bien 
| | présente :
| | DirectoryIndex index.html index.cgi index.pl index.php index.xhtml
| | 
| | Sinon, rajoute-là ! C'est un bug introduit lors d'une mise à jour assez 
| | récente (20 jours je dirais)... Il y a déjà des BR remplis pour cet 
| | oubli basique.
| | 
| Donc, j'ai créer un lien symbolique de mods-availiable à mods-enabled de
| php5.conf et php5.load
| j'ai rajouté DirectoryIndex index.html index.cgi index.pl index.php
| index.xhtml
| 
| et rien de plus.
| (même apres un /etc/init.d/apache2 reload)
| 
Par contre mon serveur apache2 refuse de démarer.
J'ai donc tester, et cela viens des liens symbolique DirectoryIndex ne
résoud pas mon Probléme.
Il semble plus précisément que se soit le liens php5.load. Le liens
php5.conf semble ne pas avoir de probléme.
Voila, si quelqu'un a une idée???
merci d'avance

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Re: [SCSI] recommandations

2006-11-25 Thread CoolFox
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Cedric Cellier a écrit :
 Coucou chère liste.
 
 Je me demande quel contrôleur (et éventuellement, disques) SCSI rapide
 et actuellement disponible dans le commerce fonctionne impécablement
 sous Debian (Etch) ?
 
 J'utilise actuelement un controleur Adaptec 39320A Ultra320 (module
 aic79xx) mais j'ai parfois des erreurs et même des plantages en cas
 de forte charge prolongée. Quelqu'un connait-il le must en matière
 de fiabilité ?
 
 
 
J'utilise une ancienne carte controleur adaptec 2100S U160 et je n'ai
jamais eu aucun pbm depuis 3 ans !
Sur ma Debian SID, le module DPT_I2O est natif donc aucun pbm de
compatibilité.

Cordialement,

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Re: scanner agfa e26

2006-11-25 Thread CoolFox
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Bruno Berteau a écrit :
 Johann Läderach a écrit :
 

 Regardez le user et le groupe  du port USB du scanner dans /dev/bus/usb/

 Le groupe devrait être 'scanner' ou qqch comme ça. Controlez que
 l'utilisateur est dans le groupe 'scanner'.

 vous pouvez aussi essayer 'scanimage -L' en root.
   
 
 Bonjour,
 
 L'utilisateur est bien dans le groupe scanner. Les sorties des commandes
 sont identiques en root et en utilisateur normal.
 /dev/bus/usb/ n'existe pas chez moi ni d'ailleurs le périphérique
 /dev/usbscanner et /dev/usb/scanner0 non plus. J'ai un noyau 2.6.10 avec
 udev.
 
 Merci.
 
Peut-etre une mise a jour du noyau (ou du moins la partie UDEV)
serait-elle bienvenue?!

Cordialement,

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Re: Récupération de données sur un balladeur formaté en fat

2006-11-25 Thread Thierry B
Max a écrit :
 Le 24/11/06, Thierry B a écrit :
 Bonjour,

 J'ai une amie qui a perdu dces données sur son balladeur.

 J'ai eessayé de voir si je pouvais récupérer des données sur la partoche
 avec testdisk, mais j'ai l'impression que celui-ci est plutot fait pour
 récupérer des partitions effacés et non pas des données.
 
 En effet testdisk récupère les partitions.
 Mais avec testdisk est aussi fourni l'utilitaire photorec, qui lui
 devrait pouvoir récupérer des données.
 

Ok, merci :-)


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synchronisation contact tel bluetooth + envoi sms sous debian

2006-11-25 Thread Thierry B
Bonjour,

J'ai un Sony Ericsson T630, dont j'aimerais pouvoir copier tous mes
contacts sous Debian, mais je ne sais pas trop quel logiciel utiliser
pour cela, sachant que wammune fonctionne pas.

hcitool scan, detecte mon tel.

Voici le résultat d'un sdptool browse xxx:

Service Name: Dial-up Networking
Service RecHandle: 0x1
Service Class ID List:
  Dialup Networking (0x1103)
  Generic Networking (0x1201)
Protocol Descriptor List:
  L2CAP (0x0100)
  RFCOMM (0x0003)
Channel: 1
Profile Descriptor List:
  Dialup Networking (0x1103)
Version: 0x0100

Service Name: Voice gateway
Service RecHandle: 0x10002
Service Class ID List:
  Headset Audio Gateway (0x1112)
  Generic Audio (0x1203)
Protocol Descriptor List:
  L2CAP (0x0100)
  RFCOMM (0x0003)
Channel: 3
Profile Descriptor List:
  Headset (0x1108)
Version: 0x0100

Service Name: Serial Port 1
Service RecHandle: 0x10003
Service Class ID List:
  Serial Port (0x1101)
Protocol Descriptor List:
  L2CAP (0x0100)
  RFCOMM (0x0003)
Channel: 4

Service Name: Serial Port 2
Service RecHandle: 0x10004
Service Class ID List:
  Serial Port (0x1101)
Protocol Descriptor List:
  L2CAP (0x0100)
  RFCOMM (0x0003)
Channel: 5

Service Name: OBEX Object Push
Service RecHandle: 0x10005
Service Class ID List:
  OBEX Object Push (0x1105)
Protocol Descriptor List:
  L2CAP (0x0100)
  RFCOMM (0x0003)
Channel: 10
  OBEX (0x0008)
Profile Descriptor List:
  OBEX Object Push (0x1105)
Version: 0x0100

Service Name: IrMC Synchronization
Service RecHandle: 0x10006
Service Class ID List:
  IrMC Sync (0x1104)
Protocol Descriptor List:
  L2CAP (0x0100)
  RFCOMM (0x0003)
Channel: 11
  OBEX (0x0008)
Profile Descriptor List:
  IrMC Sync (0x1104)
Version: 0x0100

Service Name: HF Voice gateway
Service RecHandle: 0x10007
Service Class ID List:
  Handfree Audio Gateway (0x111f)
  Generic Audio (0x1203)
Protocol Descriptor List:
  L2CAP (0x0100)
  RFCOMM (0x0003)
Channel: 6
Profile Descriptor List:
  Handsfree (0x111e)
Version: 0x0100

Service Name: OBEX Basic Imaging
Service RecHandle: 0x1000b
Service Class ID List:
  Imaging Responder (0x111b)
Protocol Descriptor List:
  L2CAP (0x0100)
  RFCOMM (0x0003)
Channel: 15
  OBEX (0x0008)
Profile Descriptor List:
  Imaging (0x111a)
Version: 0x0100

Service Name: OBEX File Transfer
Service RecHandle: 0x1000f
Service Class ID List:
  OBEX File Transfer (0x1106)
Protocol Descriptor List:
  L2CAP (0x0100)
  RFCOMM (0x0003)
Channel: 7
  OBEX (0x0008)
Profile Descriptor List:
  OBEX File Transfer (0x1106)
Version: 0x0100

J'ai aussi rajouté cela dans mon rfcomm.conf:


rfcomm0 {
# Automatically bind the device at startup
device ;
channel 10;
comment T630 OBEX push;
}

et avec kdebluetooth, j'arrive à utiliser le service obex, et voir le
contenu de mon tel.

Donc si vous avez des idées, pour que je puisse:
- synchroniser mes contacts (sens tel - ordi et ordi - tel)
- envoyer et lire des sms depuis l'ordi par bluetooth.

je suis preneur lol.

Merci :-)


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Re: synchronisation contact tel bluetooth + envoi sms sous debian

2006-11-25 Thread Jean-Damien Durand
On Saturday 25 November 2006 17:38, Thierry B wrote:
 J'ai un Sony Ericsson T630, dont j'aimerais pouvoir copier tous mes
 contacts sous Debian, mais je ne sais pas trop quel logiciel utiliser
 pour cela, sachant que wammune fonctionne pas.
 
...


 Donc si vous avez des idées, pour que je puisse:
 - synchroniser mes contacts (sens tel - ordi et ordi - tel)
 - envoyer et lire des sms depuis l'ordi par bluetooth.

multisync a fonctionné pour moi quand j'avais ce tel.

A, JD.



Re: synchronisation contact tel bluetooth + envoi sms sous debian

2006-11-25 Thread Thierry B
Jean-Damien Durand a écrit :
 On Saturday 25 November 2006 17:38, Thierry B wrote:
 J'ai un Sony Ericsson T630, dont j'aimerais pouvoir copier tous mes
 contacts sous Debian, mais je ne sais pas trop quel logiciel utiliser
 pour cela, sachant que wammune fonctionne pas.

 ...
 
 
 Donc si vous avez des idées, pour que je puisse:
 - synchroniser mes contacts (sens tel - ordi et ordi - tel)
 - envoyer et lire des sms depuis l'ordi par bluetooth.
 
 multisync a fonctionné pour moi quand j'avais ce tel.
 
 A, JD.
 

Re,

Merci, ca marche nikel.

Mais y'a t'il un moyen pour qu'il importe ca directement dans un bon
logiciel de gestion d'adresse sous kde comme kaddressbook ?

Car en fait, il m'a crée plein de fichiers, dans un dossier que je lui
ai donné mais faudrait tous les importer dans kaddressbook après...mais
bon c'est deja pas mal.

Et sinon, pour l'envoi de sms à partir de debian, un autre soft à
proposer :-)?

Merci :-)


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Gestion d'un site.

2006-11-25 Thread Shams Fantar

Plop !

Sauriez-vous si il existe des applications pour gérer la conception 
(faire le plan du site, faire des fiches sur le fiche, etc.) d'un petit 
site Web ? Si oui, laquelle ou lesquelles ?


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Re: scanner agfa e26

2006-11-25 Thread HEHO
Bruno Berteau a écrit, le 25.11.2006 08:49 :
 Je n'arrive pas à faire fonctionner mon scanner agfa snapscan e26 sur
 une debian sarge avec un noyau 2.6.10.
[...]
 Je ne comprends pas pourquoi ça ne veut pas fonctionner. J'avais déjà
 fait la configuration sous woody et ça avait marché pratiquement du 
 premier coup (sauf que le firmware était corrompu) et là ça fait un bon 
 moment que je tourne en rond et google ne donne pas grand chose.
bonsoir,
peut-être que ça n'a rien à voir (je suis en etch 2.6.17) mais :
citation
Peut-être faut-il remettre à jour les ids ? (update-usbids, la même
chose pour les ids pci : update-pciids, en root)
Jean-Luc Coulon
/citation
dans
http://people.debian.org/~terpstra/message/20050505.110909.2f33f370.fr.html
m'avait aidé avec un snapscan e20
à plus.
hého


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Re: synchronisation contact tel bluetooth + envoi sms sous debian

2006-11-25 Thread CONANGLE Frédéric
Thierry B wrote:

 Jean-Damien Durand a écrit :
 On Saturday 25 November 2006 17:38, Thierry B wrote:
 J'ai un Sony Ericsson T630, dont j'aimerais pouvoir copier tous mes
 contacts sous Debian, mais je ne sais pas trop quel logiciel utiliser
 pour cela, sachant que wammune fonctionne pas.

 ...
 
 
 Donc si vous avez des idées, pour que je puisse:
 - synchroniser mes contacts (sens tel - ordi et ordi - tel)
 - envoyer et lire des sms depuis l'ordi par bluetooth.
 
 multisync a fonctionné pour moi quand j'avais ce tel.
 
 A, JD.
 
 
 Re,
 
 Merci, ca marche nikel.
 
 Mais y'a t'il un moyen pour qu'il importe ca directement dans un bon
 logiciel de gestion d'adresse sous kde comme kaddressbook ?
 
 Car en fait, il m'a crée plein de fichiers, dans un dossier que je lui
 ai donné mais faudrait tous les importer dans kaddressbook après...mais
 bon c'est deja pas mal.
 
 Et sinon, pour l'envoi de sms à partir de debian, un autre soft à
 proposer :-)?
 
 Merci :-)
 
 
J'utilisais kmobiletools qui fonctionnait trés bien au niveau sms, mais depuis 
quelques update
impossible de faire fonctionner la connection avec mon t610...

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info sur inetd et xinetd

2006-11-25 Thread deb ian

Bonjour,

J'aurai besoin d'info sur les demon reseaux inetd et xinetd, pensant que
xinetd et plus securise et plus configurable que inetd je souhaitais
remplace inetd par lui.
Cependant je ne peux supprimer inetd a cause des dependances avec exim, mail
etc et xinetd!

Je ne peux donc le supprimer sinon je perd pas mal de soft qui me servent,
et je ne comprend pas pourquoi inetd et dependant de xinetd, pluisque xinetd
le remplace ou alors j'ai mal compris.

Merci de vos infos.


transparence dans le menu gnome

2006-11-25 Thread deb ian

Bonjour,

Quelqu'un sait comment activer la transparence des menus gnome application
Raccourcis et Bureau?
Je suis sous debian etch avec compiz, l'ai bien activer la transparence sur
le tableau de bord, mais les menus eux restes opaques.

Merci.


Re: skype i mikrofon - debian

2006-11-25 Thread Paweł Krzywicki
no witam 

mi działa zobacz jakie masz ustawienie amixera

pozdrawiam

 Witam

 Ktos konfigurowal skype pod debian i dziala mu rowniez mikrofon?

 Podpinam mikrofon i lipa nic nie slychac jest , dzwiek dziala ok


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Re: skype i mikrofon - debian

2006-11-25 Thread Adam Byrtek
On Fri, 2006-11-24 at 12:39 +0100, Albert Czarnecki wrote:
 Podpinam mikrofon i lipa nic nie slychac jest , dzwiek dziala ok

Spróbuj nagrać coś za pomocą arecord i odtworzyć za pomocą
aplay (konsola). Jeśli zadziała, problem leży po stronie Skype, a nie
miksera. Wtedy można spróbować przepuścić Skype go przez aoss (pakiet
alsa-oss), bo Skype korzysta z OSS nie ALSY - u nie kiedyś pomogło na
problemy z dźwiękiem (wprawdzie pod Gentoo, ale mimo wszystko).

Nawiasem mówiąc do testowania Skype przydaje się automatyczna
sekretarka pod loginem test123, która odgrywa wszystko co powiesz.

Pozdrawiam,
Adam Byrtek



Re: Jak zatrzymać pakiet w Debianie? Dwa pytanka...

2006-11-25 Thread Wojciech Ziniewicz

2006/11/24, Andrzej Mendel [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


Możesz go przypiąć w /etc/apt/preferences (w APT-HOWTO to znajdziesz,
nie opiszę Ci składni z głowy. Albo prościej, możesz mu dać hold.
 A drugie pytanko odnosi się budowania pakiecików ze źródeł w Debianie.
 Używam do tego apt-src. W Gentoo jest bardzo fajna możliwość
 optymalizowania pakietu w zależności od procesora ( np. -march=pentium4
 -O2 -pipe ), plus flaga USE, w której można podać co chcemy kompilować,
 a co nam nie potrzebne... czy da się tak w Debianie? Czy raczej trzeba
 grzebać w pliku konfiguracyjnym?
debian/rules, tam zmieniasz CFLAGS (flagi dla gcc) i flagi dla
configure.


man apt-build

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Re: skype i mikrofon - debian

2006-11-25 Thread Paweł Krzywicki
no witam 
Dnia sobota, 25 listopada 2006 16:45, Adam Byrtek napisał:
 On Fri, 2006-11-24 at 12:39 +0100, Albert Czarnecki wrote:
  Podpinam mikrofon i lipa nic nie slychac jest , dzwiek dziala ok

 Spróbuj nagrać coś za pomocą arecord i odtworzyć za pomocą
 aplay (konsola). Jeśli zadziała, problem leży po stronie Skype, a nie
 miksera. Wtedy można spróbować przepuścić Skype go przez aoss (pakiet

no to chyba mamy inne wersje skype bo u mnie działa na ALSA a i owszem jest 
opcja OSS ale nie aktywna. Druga sprawa nie mam  w jądrze wkompilowanej 
obsługi oss oczywiście  jako moduł czyli na zdrowy rozsądek chyba musi 
działać z ALSA
 alsa-oss), bo Skype korzysta z OSS nie ALSY - u nie kiedyś pomogło na
 problemy z dźwiękiem (wprawdzie pod Gentoo, ale mimo wszystko).
u mnie pomogło przeinstalowanie skype z wersji stabilnej na 1.3.0.37
i działa pięknie teraz


 Nawiasem mówiąc do testowania Skype przydaje się automatyczna
 sekretarka pod loginem test123, która odgrywa wszystko co powiesz.

 Pozdrawiam,
 Adam Byrtek

pozdrawiam

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Re: skype i mikrofon - debian

2006-11-25 Thread Adam Byrtek
On Sat, 2006-11-25 at 20:21 +, Paweł Krzywicki wrote:
 no to chyba mamy inne wersje skype bo u mnie działa na ALSA a i owszem jest 
 opcja OSS ale nie aktywna. Druga sprawa nie mam  w jądrze wkompilowanej 
 obsługi oss oczywiście  jako moduł czyli na zdrowy rozsądek chyba musi 
 działać z ALSA

Mea culpa, najwyraźniej miałem nieaktualne dane - sprzed jakiegoś roku,
kiedy ostatnio interesowałem się tematem. W takiem razie bardzo dobrze,
że zrobili wreszcie wsparcie dla ALSA.

Pozdrawiam,
Adam

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[OT] Najbardziej przydatne narzędzia shellowe

2006-11-25 Thread Adam Byrtek

Temat oznaczam jako OT, bo nie jest związany z samym Debianem jako takim
- mimo to sądzę, że może być interesujący.

Jestem ciekaw, jakie są Wasze ulubione, najbardziej przydatne i
najczęściej wykorzystywane narzędzia shellowe. Nie chodzi o wbudowane
komendy czy standardowe polecenia (ls, cp, grep etc.), ale o wszelkie
dodatki. Jedynym warunkiem jest to, aby nie wymagały Xów i były
użyteczne także na odległym hoście.

Moja lista, kolejność mniej lub bardziej przypadkowa:

1. screen
2. ssh
3. zsh
4. wget
5. rsync
6. jed
7. lftp
8. mc
9. svn
10. less

Czekam na Wasze propozycje szczęśliwej dziesiątki :)

Pozdrawiam,
Adam

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Re: [OT] Najbardziej przydatne narzędzia shellow e

2006-11-25 Thread Krzysztof Jastrzębski
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 Czekam na Wasze propozycje szczęśliwej dziesiątki :)

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Re: Extra moduler

2006-11-25 Thread Marcus Better
Ivar Alm wrote:
 Jag har nyss kompilerat och installerat en 2.6.18-kärna. Det visar sig
 sen att jag skulle ha behövt stöd för tmpfs/shmfs (f-spot använder det),
 vilket ska ges av kärnmodulen 'binfmt-misc'.

Nej, tmpfs och shmfs har såvitt jag vet inget med binfmt-misc att göra. Det
är filsystem. Det bästa är nog att kompilera in dem i kärnan, de är ganska
så fundamentala.

Om du verkligen behöver binfmt-misc så kan du nog kompilera om den som
modul, med lite tur, med samma metod (och samma källkodsträd) som du
använde för att kompilera kärnan.



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Re: [DebianEmCasa] instalar win na terceira parti ção

2006-11-25 Thread Sávio Ramos
Em Fri, 24 Nov 2006 17:27:23 -0200
Carlos Alberto [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:

 eu sei instalar o grub de novo, o problema é que quando vou instalar
 o win 98 ele nem pergunta em que partição eu quero instalar?

O 98 só se instala na primeira partição.

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Re: [DebianEmCasa] instalar win na terceira parti ção

2006-11-25 Thread Sávio Ramos
Em Sat, 25 Nov 2006 01:43:03 -0200
Marcos Lazarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:

 Quem já instalou Win98 sabe: ele pergunta em qual diretório gravar:
 C: D: E: F: ai vc escolhe a partição!

Faz um bom tempo que não instalo... Mas, se não me falha a memória, não
dá para instalar o 98 em outra partição que não a primeira.

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Re: O que sao portas registradas?

2006-11-25 Thread Luiz Fernando C Camargo
Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) wrote:

 [ ... ]

 H... não é ICANN é IANA:
 
 http://www.iana.org/assignments/port-numbers 

Era IANA, agora é ICANN :) 

Veja em 

  http://www.icann.org/general/

especialmente este trecho:

  These services were originally performed under U.S. Government
  contract by the Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA) and
  other entities. ICANN now performs the IANA function.

 [ ... ]

 Neste documento, você encontra as descrições de cada
 tipo de porta e as próprias portas com comentários, mas esta
 é a parte relevante pra sua pergunta:
 Conforme dito acima, o registro é pra conveniência da comunidade,
 ou seja, evitar que dois protocolos diferentes usem a mesma porta. :-)

Ótimo, mas isso não evita, correto? Eu por exemplo uso
bittornado em qualquer porta acima de 1024 que eu quiser,
desde que ela não esteja sendo usada por outro programa.  

 Por exemplo, a porta 5190/tcp usada pelo ICQ é oficialmente
 registrada, mas as portas 6891-6900/tcp, udp são portas NÃO
 oficiais usadas por BitTorrent. Devo concluir que é mais
 seguro redirecionar a porta 5190 no meu modem para a minha
 máquina para usar com o Licq do que fazer o mesmo com a porta
 6881/tcp para usar com o Bittornado?
 
 Hmmm... sim e não. Ainda que a IANA regule isso, a Internet é um
 modelo extremamente flexível, ou seja, ter uma porta registrada não
 significa que você não possa executar um servidor FTP na porta 5190.

Pois é, então, qual a vantagem de se ter uma porta registrada?
isso que eu não entendo. Se um programa que usa uma porta
registrada encontra essa porta fechada, ele não escolhe outra
porta automaticamente?...

 Qual a diferença de se usar uma porta registrada ou outra não
 registrada no que diz respeito a segurança? E se eu usar
 outras portas com esses aplicativos? o que muda?
 
 Nada muda, a máquina é sua, você usa as portas que quiser. Do
 aspecto de segurança muda que você vai permitir tráfego de certos
 pacotes em portas registradas (e se quiser) ou seja, vai favorecer
 clientes que tem um perfil mais honesto 

Favorecer como? 

 e que _teoricamente_ estão usando os protocolos certos nas
 portas certas, mas na área de segurança você deve desconfiar
 de tudo, então ser ou não registrada a porta não muda muito.

As vantagens de uma porta registrada ainda não estão claras
para mim. Mas obrigado por responder.

Luiz Fernando


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routear duas redes

2006-11-25 Thread Carlinux
bom dia,

pessoal estou apanhando para routear duas redes, ja' fiz varia pesquisas
na internet, e segui varios passos e nada, veja o que fiz:

carlinux:/home/carlucio# route
Tabela de Roteamento IP do Kernel
Destino RoteadorMáscaraGen.Opções Métrica Ref   Uso Iface
201-67-92-254.g *   255.255.255.255 UH0  00 ppp0
default 201-67-92-254.g 0.0.0.0 UG0  00 ppp0
carlinux:/home/carlucio# 


== maquina com duas placas  eth0(bridge internet) e eth1(ligado via cabo
crossover a maquina 10.0.0.2).

carlinux:/home/carlucio# ifconfig eth1 10.0.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 up

carlinux:/home/carlucio# ping 10.0.0.2
PING 10.0.0.2 (10.0.0.2) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 10.0.0.2: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.488 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.0.2: icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=0.222 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.0.2: icmp_seq=3 ttl=64 time=0.224 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.0.2: icmp_seq=4 ttl=64 time=0.221 ms

--- 10.0.0.2 ping statistics ---
4 packets transmitted, 4 received, 0% packet loss, time 3002ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.221/0.288/0.488/0.116 ms



carlinux:/home/carlucio# route
Tabela de Roteamento IP do Kernel
Destino RoteadorMáscaraGen.Opções Métrica Ref   Uso Iface
201-67-92-254.g *   255.255.255.255 UH0  00 ppp0
10.0.0.0*   255.255.255.0   U 0  00 eth1
default 201-67-92-254.g 0.0.0.0 UG0  00 ppp0
carlinux:/home/carlucio# 

carlinux:/home/carlucio# echo 1  /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward 

carlinux:/home/carlucio# ping 10.0.0.2
PING 10.0.0.2 (10.0.0.2) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 10.0.0.2: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.316 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.0.2: icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=0.227 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.0.2: icmp_seq=3 ttl=64 time=0.224 ms



mas o micro(10.0.0.2) na consegue navegar, o que devo fazer?



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Re: [off] SLI

2006-11-25 Thread Still
* Konnichiwa Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)-sama:
 On 11/16/2006 05:49 PM, Alan wrote:
  Olá,
  
  Gostaria de saber se o Debian possue suporte a SLI.
 
   Você vai ter que ser um pouco mais específico.

SLI é uma especificação da Nvidia para se utilizar 2 placas de
vídeo em paralelo.
Ainda não testei aqui em casa, pois comprei uma placa de vídeo
somente.

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Re: O que sao portas registradas?

2006-11-25 Thread Renato Otranto Jr.

Luiz,

imagine como seria pouco prático divulgar endereços e portas.
Imagine se precisássemos divulgar nossos
endereços no formato www.exemplo.com porta 80 ou
www.exemplo.com:80

Ou pior ainda, como os servidores de email poderiam trabalhar
com o protocolo smtp sem padronização da porta 25.

É para esses casos que as portas são registradas, ou padronizadas
que eu acredito que é um termo melhor para esse uso. Portas
registradas podem ser confundidas com as portas RPC, mas que não
vêm ao caso agora.

Quando você digita uma URL no seu browser ele acredita que o servidor
que atende por essa URL esteja escutando na porta 80, que é a porta
padrão para este tipo de serviço.

Quando um servidor de email inicia a transferência de uma mensagem
para outro servidor, ele procura o serviço smtp na porta 25.

Por outro lado, muitas operadoras que fornecem acesso à internet,
bloqueiam conexões de entrada nas portas inferiores à 1024. Nesse caso,
se você é cliente deste tipo de serviço e deseja hospedar páginas web, seu
servidor näo será acessível na porta padrão 80 e o único jeito é fazer com
que ele escute em uma porta acima da 1024, saindo do padrão das portas
registradas. Isso não inviabiliza que você coloque seu servidor web
no ar, mas com o inconveniente de precisar informar, além da sua URL,
a porta em que ele está atendendo, uma vez que essa não é a porta
padrão procurada pelo browser dos seus visitantes.






On 11/25/06, Luiz Fernando C Camargo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) wrote:

 [ ... ]

 H... não é ICANN é IANA:

 http://www.iana.org/assignments/port-numbers

Era IANA, agora é ICANN :)

Veja em

  http://www.icann.org/general/

especialmente este trecho:

  These services were originally performed under U.S. Government
  contract by the Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA) and
  other entities. ICANN now performs the IANA function.

 [ ... ]

 Neste documento, você encontra as descrições de cada
 tipo de porta e as próprias portas com comentários, mas esta
 é a parte relevante pra sua pergunta:
 Conforme dito acima, o registro é pra conveniência da comunidade,
 ou seja, evitar que dois protocolos diferentes usem a mesma porta. :-)

Ótimo, mas isso não evita, correto? Eu por exemplo uso
bittornado em qualquer porta acima de 1024 que eu quiser,
desde que ela não esteja sendo usada por outro programa.

 Por exemplo, a porta 5190/tcp usada pelo ICQ é oficialmente
 registrada, mas as portas 6891-6900/tcp, udp são portas NÃO
 oficiais usadas por BitTorrent. Devo concluir que é mais
 seguro redirecionar a porta 5190 no meu modem para a minha
 máquina para usar com o Licq do que fazer o mesmo com a porta
 6881/tcp para usar com o Bittornado?

 Hmmm... sim e não. Ainda que a IANA regule isso, a Internet é um
 modelo extremamente flexível, ou seja, ter uma porta registrada não
 significa que você não possa executar um servidor FTP na porta 5190.

Pois é, então, qual a vantagem de se ter uma porta registrada?
isso que eu não entendo. Se um programa que usa uma porta
registrada encontra essa porta fechada, ele não escolhe outra
porta automaticamente?...

 Qual a diferença de se usar uma porta registrada ou outra não
 registrada no que diz respeito a segurança? E se eu usar
 outras portas com esses aplicativos? o que muda?

 Nada muda, a máquina é sua, você usa as portas que quiser. Do
 aspecto de segurança muda que você vai permitir tráfego de certos
 pacotes em portas registradas (e se quiser) ou seja, vai favorecer
 clientes que tem um perfil mais honesto

Favorecer como?

 e que _teoricamente_ estão usando os protocolos certos nas
 portas certas, mas na área de segurança você deve desconfiar
 de tudo, então ser ou não registrada a porta não muda muito.

As vantagens de uma porta registrada ainda não estão claras
para mim. Mas obrigado por responder.

Luiz Fernando


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Re: O que sao portas registradas?

2006-11-25 Thread Márcio Luciano Donada

 Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) wrote:

  [ ... ]

 H... não é ICANN é IANA:

 http://www.iana.org/assignments/port-numbers

 Era IANA, agora é ICANN :)

 Veja em

   http://www.icann.org/general/

 especialmente este trecho:

   These services were originally performed under U.S. Government
   contract by the Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA) and
   other entities. ICANN now performs the IANA function.

  [ ... ]

 Neste documento, você encontra as descrições de cada
 tipo de porta e as próprias portas com comentários, mas esta
 é a parte relevante pra sua pergunta:
 Conforme dito acima, o registro é pra conveniência da comunidade,
 ou seja, evitar que dois protocolos diferentes usem a mesma porta. :-)

 Ótimo, mas isso não evita, correto? Eu por exemplo uso
 bittornado em qualquer porta acima de 1024 que eu quiser,
 desde que ela não esteja sendo usada por outro programa.

 Por exemplo, a porta 5190/tcp usada pelo ICQ é oficialmente
 registrada, mas as portas 6891-6900/tcp, udp são portas NÃO
 oficiais usadas por BitTorrent. Devo concluir que é mais
 seguro redirecionar a porta 5190 no meu modem para a minha
 máquina para usar com o Licq do que fazer o mesmo com a porta
 6881/tcp para usar com o Bittornado?

 Hmmm... sim e não. Ainda que a IANA regule isso, a Internet é um
 modelo extremamente flexível, ou seja, ter uma porta registrada não
 significa que você não possa executar um servidor FTP na porta 5190.

 Pois é, então, qual a vantagem de se ter uma porta registrada?
 isso que eu não entendo. Se um programa que usa uma porta
 registrada encontra essa porta fechada, ele não escolhe outra
 porta automaticamente?...

 Qual a diferença de se usar uma porta registrada ou outra não
 registrada no que diz respeito a segurança? E se eu usar
 outras portas com esses aplicativos? o que muda?

 Nada muda, a máquina é sua, você usa as portas que quiser. Do
 aspecto de segurança muda que você vai permitir tráfego de certos
 pacotes em portas registradas (e se quiser) ou seja, vai favorecer
 clientes que tem um perfil mais honesto

 Favorecer como?

 e que _teoricamente_ estão usando os protocolos certos nas
 portas certas, mas na área de segurança você deve desconfiar
 de tudo, então ser ou não registrada a porta não muda muito.

 As vantagens de uma porta registrada ainda não estão claras
 para mim. Mas obrigado por responder.

 Luiz Fernando


Bom dia,
Sugiro a leitura do livro do mestre das redes, ANDREW S. TANENBAUM, no link:

http://www.submarino.com.br/books_productdetails.asp?Query=ProductPageProdTypeId=1ProdId=56122ST=SF3800


Muitas pessoas antes mesmo de trabalhar com qualquer sistema operacional
de redes, que se auto intitulam como administradores de rede, deveriam ao
menos já ter lido algum livro do TANENBAUM. Deve-se lembra que essa lista
é de linux, mas especificamente do Debian, dessa forma, para esse assunto
deveria-se utilizar a lista do GTER.


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Re: routear duas redes

2006-11-25 Thread Flavio Steimacher

iptables -A POSTROUTING -t nat -o ppp0 -j MASQUERADE

eu tenho uma conexão pppoe, sendo que meu modem está como bridge, então
tenho ip real da internet na porta ppp0.

Em 25/11/06, Carlinux [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:


bom dia,

pessoal estou apanhando para routear duas redes, ja' fiz varia pesquisas
na internet, e segui varios passos e nada, veja o que fiz:

carlinux:/home/carlucio# route
Tabela de Roteamento IP do Kernel
Destino RoteadorMáscaraGen.Opções Métrica Ref   Uso
Iface
201-67-92-254.g *   255.255.255.255 UH0  00
ppp0
default 201-67-92-254.g 0.0.0.0 UG0  00
ppp0
carlinux:/home/carlucio#


== maquina com duas placas  eth0(bridge internet) e eth1(ligado via cabo
crossover a maquina 10.0.0.2).

carlinux:/home/carlucio# ifconfig eth1 10.0.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 up

carlinux:/home/carlucio# ping 10.0.0.2
PING 10.0.0.2 (10.0.0.2) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 10.0.0.2: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.488 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.0.2: icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=0.222 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.0.2: icmp_seq=3 ttl=64 time=0.224 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.0.2: icmp_seq=4 ttl=64 time=0.221 ms

--- 10.0.0.2 ping statistics ---
4 packets transmitted, 4 received, 0% packet loss, time 3002ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.221/0.288/0.488/0.116 ms



carlinux:/home/carlucio# route
Tabela de Roteamento IP do Kernel
Destino RoteadorMáscaraGen.Opções Métrica Ref   Uso
Iface
201-67-92-254.g *   255.255.255.255 UH0  00
ppp0
10.0.0.0*   255.255.255.0   U 0  00
eth1
default 201-67-92-254.g 0.0.0.0 UG0  00
ppp0
carlinux:/home/carlucio#

carlinux:/home/carlucio# echo 1  /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward

carlinux:/home/carlucio# ping 10.0.0.2
PING 10.0.0.2 (10.0.0.2) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 10.0.0.2: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.316 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.0.2: icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=0.227 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.0.2: icmp_seq=3 ttl=64 time=0.224 ms



mas o micro(10.0.0.2) na consegue navegar, o que devo fazer?



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Re: O que sao portas registradas?

2006-11-25 Thread Renato Otranto Jr.

Pessoal,

peço mil desculpas pela péssima interpretação da pergunta e pela
resposta. Só depois de enviar percebi o grave erro.



On 11/25/06, Márcio Luciano Donada [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) wrote:

  [ ... ]

 H... não é ICANN é IANA:

 http://www.iana.org/assignments/port-numbers

 Era IANA, agora é ICANN :)

 Veja em

   http://www.icann.org/general/

 especialmente este trecho:

   These services were originally performed under U.S. Government
   contract by the Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA) and
   other entities. ICANN now performs the IANA function.

  [ ... ]

 Neste documento, você encontra as descrições de cada
 tipo de porta e as próprias portas com comentários, mas esta
 é a parte relevante pra sua pergunta:
 Conforme dito acima, o registro é pra conveniência da comunidade,
 ou seja, evitar que dois protocolos diferentes usem a mesma porta. :-)

 Ótimo, mas isso não evita, correto? Eu por exemplo uso
 bittornado em qualquer porta acima de 1024 que eu quiser,
 desde que ela não esteja sendo usada por outro programa.

 Por exemplo, a porta 5190/tcp usada pelo ICQ é oficialmente
 registrada, mas as portas 6891-6900/tcp, udp são portas NÃO
 oficiais usadas por BitTorrent. Devo concluir que é mais
 seguro redirecionar a porta 5190 no meu modem para a minha
 máquina para usar com o Licq do que fazer o mesmo com a porta
 6881/tcp para usar com o Bittornado?

 Hmmm... sim e não. Ainda que a IANA regule isso, a Internet é um
 modelo extremamente flexível, ou seja, ter uma porta registrada não
 significa que você não possa executar um servidor FTP na porta 5190.

 Pois é, então, qual a vantagem de se ter uma porta registrada?
 isso que eu não entendo. Se um programa que usa uma porta
 registrada encontra essa porta fechada, ele não escolhe outra
 porta automaticamente?...

 Qual a diferença de se usar uma porta registrada ou outra não
 registrada no que diz respeito a segurança? E se eu usar
 outras portas com esses aplicativos? o que muda?

 Nada muda, a máquina é sua, você usa as portas que quiser. Do
 aspecto de segurança muda que você vai permitir tráfego de certos
 pacotes em portas registradas (e se quiser) ou seja, vai favorecer
 clientes que tem um perfil mais honesto

 Favorecer como?

 e que _teoricamente_ estão usando os protocolos certos nas
 portas certas, mas na área de segurança você deve desconfiar
 de tudo, então ser ou não registrada a porta não muda muito.

 As vantagens de uma porta registrada ainda não estão claras
 para mim. Mas obrigado por responder.

 Luiz Fernando


Bom dia,
Sugiro a leitura do livro do mestre das redes, ANDREW S. TANENBAUM, no link:

http://www.submarino.com.br/books_productdetails.asp?Query=ProductPageProdTypeId=1ProdId=56122ST=SF3800


Muitas pessoas antes mesmo de trabalhar com qualquer sistema operacional
de redes, que se auto intitulam como administradores de rede, deveriam ao
menos já ter lido algum livro do TANENBAUM. Deve-se lembra que essa lista
é de linux, mas especificamente do Debian, dessa forma, para esse assunto
deveria-se utilizar a lista do GTER.


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[OT] Re: O que sao portas registradas?

2006-11-25 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
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On 11/25/2006 10:08 AM, Luiz Fernando C Camargo wrote:
 Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) wrote:
[...]
Neste documento, você encontra as descrições de cada
tipo de porta e as próprias portas com comentários, mas esta
é a parte relevante pra sua pergunta:
Conforme dito acima, o registro é pra conveniência da comunidade,
ou seja, evitar que dois protocolos diferentes usem a mesma porta. :-)
 
 Ótimo, mas isso não evita, correto? 

Claro que não. Os computadores são gerenciados por diferentes
pessoas e cada um faz o que bem entender. As placas de sinalização na
rua não evitam que você entre na contramão, correto?


 Eu por exemplo uso bittornado em qualquer porta acima de 1024 que 
 eu quiser, desde que ela não esteja sendo usada por outro programa.

Cuidado pra não confundir a alocação dinâmica de porta dos
clientes com as portas reservadas.


Por exemplo, a porta 5190/tcp usada pelo ICQ é oficialmente
registrada, mas as portas 6891-6900/tcp, udp são portas NÃO
oficiais usadas por BitTorrent. Devo concluir que é mais
seguro redirecionar a porta 5190 no meu modem para a minha
máquina para usar com o Licq do que fazer o mesmo com a porta
6881/tcp para usar com o Bittornado?

Hmmm... sim e não. Ainda que a IANA regule isso, a Internet é um
modelo extremamente flexível, ou seja, ter uma porta registrada não
significa que você não possa executar um servidor FTP na porta 5190.
 
 Pois é, então, qual a vantagem de se ter uma porta registrada?

Como já dito em outra mensagem, padrão. Se todos os
protocolo de IM usassem a 5190, como você poderia ter um
servidor de Jabber e outro de Oscar na mesma máquina? Pior,
se você não tivesse uma espécie de regulação, você teria
que sempre configurar portas e a vida seria mais difícil.


 isso que eu não entendo. Se um programa que usa uma porta
 registrada encontra essa porta fechada, ele não escolhe outra
 porta automaticamente?...

Você está confundindo clientes com servidores...
normalmente a porta reservada é para os serviços que aguardam
conexões.


Qual a diferença de se usar uma porta registrada ou outra não
registrada no que diz respeito a segurança? E se eu usar
outras portas com esses aplicativos? o que muda?

Nada muda, a máquina é sua, você usa as portas que quiser. Do
aspecto de segurança muda que você vai permitir tráfego de certos
pacotes em portas registradas (e se quiser) ou seja, vai favorecer
clientes que tem um perfil mais honesto 
 
 Favorecer como? 

Se você só permite tráfego usando portas registradas e
usando as técnicas certas, quem estiver tentando fazer porcaria
vai ser barrado (ou deveria ser).


e que _teoricamente_ estão usando os protocolos certos nas
portas certas, mas na área de segurança você deve desconfiar
de tudo, então ser ou não registrada a porta não muda muito.
 
 As vantagens de uma porta registrada ainda não estão claras
 para mim. Mas obrigado por responder.

Sugiro que você estude um pouco mais de redes e TCP/IP,
talvez ajude a compreender.


 Luiz Fernando

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Re: nao consigo instalar php-gtk2 no debian BR

2006-11-25 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
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On 11/18/2006 09:52 AM, Luiz Fábio cruz wrote:
 Alguem fabe como faço para instalar o php-gtk2, quando instalos as
 bibliotecas desintala um monte de aplicativos tipo o msn, lazarus.

Você pode dar mais detalhes de quais bibliotecas está
instalando? Quais repositórios está usando e qual a versão do seu
Debian?

Quais as mensagens de erro?


 se alguem puder de ajudar
 agradeço
 Luiz Fábio

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Re: IMPRESSÃO MUITO LENTA?

2006-11-25 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
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On 11/17/2006 10:37 PM, Igor Magalhães wrote:
 Impressão muito LENTA?
 
 Minha impressora lasejet 1200 na hora de imprimir um documento qualquer
 ela demora cerca de ate 10 minutos.

Isso parece ser algo com o driver e as opções PS.


 Essa impressora esta num setor que nele contem 3 micros com 1 impressora
 laserjet
 1200. Pois bem, sendo que tem arquivos criados em Broffice, um texto comum
 por exemplo. Quando mandamos imprimir a impressao demora cerca de 10
 minutos para imprimir sem exagero!
 
 O testes que ja realizei para tentar resolver foram o seguinte:
[...]

 Uso o debian cdd com a confiuracao dos micros Placa mae cuv4x,
 processador 750.
 
 O micro que esta instalado a impressora ele realiza cerca de 50 a 100
 impressões diariamente.
 A impressora esta conectada ao micro por porta paralela.
[...]

Você pode mandar o seu printers.conf?

 
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Re: Contabilizar tempo de interação

2006-11-25 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
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On 11/17/2006 05:14 PM, Antonio Felipe wrote:
 Olá amigos!
 
 Eu administro alguns servidores Debian e precisaria ter um controle
 maior sobre o tempo de acesso a cada um deles. Atualmente o que eu faço
 para contabilizar o tempo de acesso é verificar o horário que aparecesse
 no e-mail de aviso que o logcheck manda quando algum usuário loga no
 sistema, o tempo quando estou fechando a conexão e marco os 2 em uma
 planilha.
 Seria muito fácil fazer tudo sem parar, se não houvessem interrupções,
 muitas vezes outros problemas mais urgentes, ou sede e etc.
 O que eu realmente iria adorar é se houvesse um contabilizador de tempo
 no shell que se ficasse, digamos assim, uns 10 segundos sem interação,
 ele parasse de contar o tempo, e continuaria a contar de onde parou
 quando houvesse novamente interação.
 Será que é possível pelo menos algo parecido?

O comando w faz algo parecido, mas não é acumulado, talvez
você possa fazer alguma checagem periódica e com alguns scripts
fazer a conta que vc quer.


 []s a todos e bom feriado!
 Antonio Felipe

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Re: [off] SLI

2006-11-25 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
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On 11/25/2006 10:23 AM, Still wrote:
 * Konnichiwa Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)-sama:
 
On 11/16/2006 05:49 PM, Alan wrote:

Olá,

Gostaria de saber se o Debian possue suporte a SLI.

  Você vai ter que ser um pouco mais específico.
 
 
   SLI é uma especificação da Nvidia para se utilizar 2 placas de
 vídeo em paralelo.
[...]

Ok. :-)  Ainda assim, temos que tentar criar o hábito de
fazer perguntas com mais informações e/ou detalhes.

A questão é que saber se o Debian possui suporte a SLI é
um tanto quanto genérico, a resposta mais genérica seria: depende
do driver proprietário da NVidia.

A pergunta podia ser sobre o X.Org e o driver livre, podia
ser sobre hardware compatíveis e por aí vai...


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Re: Manuais Debian para download.

2006-11-25 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
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On 11/16/2006 02:57 PM, Daniel Lemos Gontijo wrote:
 Boa tarde pessoal da lista,
 
 Por diversas vezes fui ajudado por vocês a resolver dúvidas relativas ao
 Debian. E a medida que solucionava problemas, com ou sem sua ajuda, fui
 elaborando manuais passo a passo.
 
 Imagino que estes manuais podem ajudar alguns a resolver em poucas
 horas, procedimentos que levei dias para realizar/entender.

Com certeza. Pelo que vi os arquivos estão sob GPL, seria
interessante colocá-los em algum repositório de documentos como o
site do Debian Brasil.


 Por enquanto disponibilizei os seguintes manuais:
 1Instalação do dotProject, com SSL + LDAP no Debian Sarge 3.1
 2Instalação do KnowledgeTree, com SSL + LDAP no Sarge 3.1
 3Instalação do VMware no Sarge 3.1, recompilando o Kernel
 4Instalação da placa QLogic QLA3240 (Giga) no Sarge 3.1
 Fiquem a vontade para baixá-los pelo link:
 http://www.4shared.com/dir/1296200/dc5d69ff/Documentos_GPL.html
 
 Com o tempo vou colocando mais alguns.
 Espero que a iniciativa seja válida para todos.

Você não teria interesse em contribuir na documentação do
Debian? Há muitos itens pra fazer (Release Notes, FAQ, Referências),
alguns precisam de tradução, outras de atualização. ;)


 Abraços: LEMOS

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Re: Dúvida? Debian BR

2006-11-25 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
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On 11/13/2006 04:34 PM, Anderson Regis wrote:
 Após a instalação do Debian-Br está acontecendo o seguinte erro,
 “Virtual screen tôo big for memory; 1536k needed, 1532k available END OF
 MESSAGE”

Estranho...


  Como resolvo esse problema? A configuração da minha maquina é 128 de
 memoria, processador 1.2, todo on board.

Você já conseguiu resolver este problema?


 Anderson Regis - Analista de Suporte

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Dúvidas de Iniciante

2006-11-25 Thread Luciano Silva

Olá!

Instalei o Debian Etch, por indicação de um amigo, mas tô com alguns problemas:

Não consigo instalar o KDE, pq o pppoe não está instalado em minha máquina, 
tenho os 3º primeiros cds de instalação, já fiz o apt-cdrom e adicionei os 2 
cds para o source.list, mesmo assim não consigo instalar o pppoe e pppoeconf.

Alguém pode me ajudar?!


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Travamento do Kde

2006-11-25 Thread rodrigo malatesta
Pessoal, 
estou usando o Debian 2.4 Sarge. Acontece que ao tentar sair do Kde ele não 
desliga, travando o computador.
Existe algum comando pra tentar reparar isso?
Valeu.


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Tunelamento de Portas

2006-11-25 Thread Rodolfo Allan

Oi,

Existe como contornar o problema de tunelamento de portas? A rede da
universidade não permite que o gaim se conecte devido a isso, não consegui
resolver o problema.

Abraço
Rodolfo.


Re: Tunelamento de Portas

2006-11-25 Thread julio henrique
Olá, Rodolfo.

Já tentou pedir ao administrador da sua rede ? Ou é a
política da universidade impedir  quaisquer IM de se
conectar? 

[ ]s, Henry.

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 Oi,
 
 Existe como contornar o problema de tunelamento de
 portas? A rede da
 universidade não permite que o gaim se conecte
 devido a isso, não consegui
 resolver o problema.
 
 Abraço
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Re: Dúvidas de Iniciante

2006-11-25 Thread Eddie
 O etch não foi lançando ainda, é testing, apesar de ja esta bem 
melhor, mais ainda tem bugs.

 Usa esse comando apt-setup


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Re: Travamento do Kde]

2006-11-25 Thread Eddie



 Mensagem original 
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Aconcelho a dar uma atualizada no sistema, isso deve ser feito 
rotineiramente, para não dizer diario.
Usa o synaptic ele é grafico bem facil de usar, instala tudo que ele 
indica para atualizar.


rodrigo malatesta escreveu:

Pessoal,
estou usando o Debian 2.4 Sarge. Acontece que ao tentar sair do Kde 
ele não desliga, travando o computador.

Existe algum comando pra tentar reparar isso?
Valeu.


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Re: Erro na instlacao de pacotes

2006-11-25 Thread Eddie
 Eu tava dando uma lida e acho que é problema de versão, ele ta numa 
versão tipo teste, e ta forçando uma estavel.
 Uma ideia, instala ele e depois coloca  no /etc/apt/sources.list os 
endereços do estavel, e da um apt-get update, ai ve o que da, se tiver 
um aptitude ai, melhor, abre ele é ve o que da.
 Se for normal, da um apt-setup e coloca o dvd, e tenta, se pode forçar 
a entrada de pacotes também, como também mudar prioridade de pacotes, 
estavel, teste, teste com estavel etc...
 Se conseguir posta ai como fez, até o etch sair, ajuda as pessoas que 
tiver esse problema.


Caso não tenha os end do sarge vai ai, oficiais.
É só copiar e colar no /etc/apt/sources.list

deb http://ftp.br.debian.org/debian/ sarge non-free contrib main

deb http://security.debian.org/ sarge/updates non-free contrib main


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Re: Reportbug - Does it work?

2006-11-25 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Fri, Nov 24, 2006 at 11:07:22PM -0500, Wayne Topa wrote:
   My /var/log/emim4/mainlog shows 2 messages sent to
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 11-20 and accepted my my ISP's mail server.
   The one mentioned in this thread and one on crom.
   
  Strange.  You may want to contact your ISP's tech support and see if
  they can locate those message IDs in their mail server logs to make sure
  that they were sent on from there.

You could reconfigure reportbug to send directly. Use this in your
~/.reportbugrc

smtphost=bugs.debian.org

 I just forwarded the original report on crom to the maintainer and
 I had already sent, as I mentioned in the OP, to the Debian X
 Strike Force which turns out to be the Xorg maintainer.  Odd I haven't
 heard from aynone on it yet though.

Did you look at the mailinglist archives? If you're not subscribed to
their mailinglist, they probably just didn't CC you.

 The pain is I'll have to use my wife's Xp box and that always 
 pains me.  :-)

That's bad :)

Regards,
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Bad CC [Was: Re: Reportbug - Does it work?]

2006-11-25 Thread Andrei Popescu
Roberto: Sorry for the CC. I thought it was because of the Reply-To
header. Too late did I realize I was repling to Wayne ...

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Re: SunBlade150 (Sparc64) random system freeze

2006-11-25 Thread Kevin Mark
On Fri, Nov 24, 2006 at 04:39:23PM +0530, Nishant Sharma wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I am running Debian Testing on SunBlade150 with kernel 2.6.16. It used
 to run kernel 2.6.8 before the upgrade. Irrespective of the kernel
 version, I am facing system freezing randomly with no traces in any of
 the logs. Many times system keeps running for 40 days and many times
 it will just hang after booting up.
 
 I could reproduce the similar issues on two more excatly same
 machines. They were used to hang even during net-install itself when
 APT was installing packages. It has been more than 1 year I am facing
 the problem without any solutions.
 
 Earlier I was using KDE, but since when I have switched to IceWM, the
 frequency of freeze is reduced but it is still there.
 
 regards,
Hi Nishant,
if a machine reboots after 40 days, that is not something easily
diagnosed unless you can reproduce the behavior. Common things are cron
jobs, rtc problems, power supply, cold solder joints, dust inside as
examples. There also can be issues with certain kernlels that may be
fixed in newer versions. I do not use sun hardware, if maybe better to
join a debian sun/sparc list as I would not expect many folks here to
have sun/sparc specific knowledge. Did you say the other machines had
the exact same issues or some thing different? The description of them
is not as clear as the first one.
Cheers,
Kev
ps. I wonder how many windows boxes can last for 40 days, hehe.
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Re: Help: Developing Free Debian Trainings

2006-11-25 Thread Kevin Mark
On Fri, Nov 24, 2006 at 07:18:05PM +0100, Maarten Verwijs wrote:
 
 Hello!
 
 I'd like to announce a new project in order to gain world domination for
 Debian. It's my little pet project and I call it The Tipii Project [1].
 
 The short term goal of the Tipii Project is to train people in the use
 of Debian GNU/Linux.
 
 The long term goal is to create a set of trainings that will eventually
 lead to Debian Certification, ala Red Hat Certified.
 
 Since no company is giving Debian trainings that _I_ know of, I figure I
 might just as well do it myself. And have fun doing it!
 
 Under the name of The Tipii Project, me and a couple of friends have
 just started to develop a set of Debian trainings. This is the earliest
 of beginnings, but it is a beginning.
snip
 
 Kind regards and thanks for your input, 
 
Hi Maarten,
some wikis allow only registered users to make changes, this may help
limit damage from random people. You can certainly use the debian wiki
to create info for folks to use and update unless you want to keep it
seperate. Debian also has debian.net urls for unoffical but related
project web site. ask a debian developers if you want this. You can
setup a debian subproject if you want like debian-edu or skoelinux.
Debian also can setup a mailing list on their servers. There is also
wikibooks and mit open books projects as examples.
Cheers,
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Re: /dev/hd* gone with udev

2006-11-25 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Nov 18, 2006 at 01:06:41PM +, Wackojacko wrote:
 Chris Bannister wrote:
 On Wed, Nov 15, 2006 at 11:09:53PM -0800, Jason Dunsmore wrote:
 I tried downgrading to udev 0.100-1, a version I know worked, but I
 saw the same problem.
 
 Could it be my configuration?  My /etc/udev/rules.d/local.rules file
 contains the following:
 
 SYSFS{model}=5VLAT80, NAME{all_partitions}=usb_hd
 SYSFS{model}=iFP Mass Driver, NAME{all_partitions}=iriver
 SYSFS{model}=Flash Voyager, NAME{all_partitions}=key_drv
 SYSFS{model}=Cruzer Micro, NAME{all_partitions}=key_drv
 SYSFS{model}=USB to IDE Card, NAME{all_partitions}=cf_card
 
 You need '==' instead of '='.
 
 But only for comparison, assignment is still =

oops, of course! Sorry about that.

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Re: localhost in /etc/hosts

2006-11-25 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Nov 21, 2006 at 07:51:49PM -0500, Douglas Tutty wrote:
 On Wed, Nov 22, 2006 at 12:17:03AM +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
  On 2006-11-21 15:49:07 +0100, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote:
  
  Indeed your hosts.allow probably wasn't complete. In addition to
  localhost, you should have added the hostname. Or perhaps the IP
  address 127.0.0.1.
  
   there often is no FQDN, as there is often no IP.
  
  The machine should always have a FQDN, though it may be resolved
  locally only (in particular if your machine is not on a network).
  Otherwise you'll have problems with software that requests it (I
  don't think there's another portable way to fully identify the
  machine).
 
 I've had stand-alone (aka secure) boxes called localhost, with only the
 standard 127.0.0.1 /etc/hosts entry.  Never had a problem.

Never tried to install leafnode then?

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Re: xserver-xorg: recent upgrade blowed out my X server

2006-11-25 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Nov 21, 2006 at 05:10:19PM +0100, Florian Kulzer wrote:
 I am not sure why your xorg.config with the s3 driver does not work
 anymore. I think the old s3 driver has now been split into s3,
 savage and s3virge. The new s3 driver seems to be for legacy cards
 only; all newer cards are supported by savage.

It needs the savage driver in Xfree86 in Sarge also. 3.1r1 CD's.
Is the OP sure it used the s3 driver before?

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Re: localhost in /etc/hosts

2006-11-25 Thread David Hart
On Sat 2006-11-25 23:58:42 +1300, Chris Bannister wrote:
 On Tue, Nov 21, 2006 at 07:51:49PM -0500, Douglas Tutty wrote:
  
  I've had stand-alone (aka secure) boxes called localhost, with only the
  standard 127.0.0.1 /etc/hosts entry.  Never had a problem.
 
 Never tried to install leafnode then?

What use would leafnode be on a non-networked box?

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Re: xserver-xorg: recent upgrade blowed out my X server

2006-11-25 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Nov 22, 2006 at 02:23:53PM +0530, Amit Joshi wrote:
 On Tuesday 21 November 2006 21:56, Raffaele Morelli wrote:
 trimmed
 
  mhhh... I don't have a  Savage Video Cards section,  I am compiling from
  2.6.8 sources, should I use newer ones?.. but still asking myself why it
  worked..
  going crazy with this!
 
 Yep. You need to upgrade. The 2.6.8 Kernel doesn't support this Video Card. 
 I am using the 2.6.17-2 kernel now. Works fine. 
 
 I had tried the 2.4 Sarge Kernel. (don't remember the exact version number 
 though). The 2.4 kernel used to work fine. Maybe this explains why everything 
 was working fine previously. 
 But the 2.6.8 kernel (The unstable kernel on the Sarge CD) doesn't support 
 the savage module.

Just installed Sarge (3.1r1 CD's) with 2.6.8 kernel on a machine with
that video card and the savage driver worked. The s3 driver would NOT
work.

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Re: localhost in /etc/hosts

2006-11-25 Thread Tim Post
On Sat, 2006-11-25 at 11:03 +, David Hart wrote:
 On Sat 2006-11-25 23:58:42 +1300, Chris Bannister wrote:
  On Tue, Nov 21, 2006 at 07:51:49PM -0500, Douglas Tutty wrote:
   
   I've had stand-alone (aka secure) boxes called localhost, with only the
   standard 127.0.0.1 /etc/hosts entry.  Never had a problem.
  
  Never tried to install leafnode then?
 
 What use would leafnode be on a non-networked box?
 

Would be like usenet only filtering out all the spam, junk and flame
wars. :)

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Re: orientation with respect to tex, auctex, tetex, texlive, etc.

2006-11-25 Thread Christoph Bier
Russell L. Harris schrieb am 24.11.2006 23:59:

[...]

 So now my task is to figure out how to install version 49 or 50 of
 minitoc.sty in texlive.  

http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?label=instpackages or try
the MikTeX tools:
http://dojo.miktex.org/blogs/christian_schenk/articles/mpmunix.aspx

[...]

Best,
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Re: Help: Developing Free Debian Trainings

2006-11-25 Thread Maarten Verwijs
Hi steef, 

On Fri, Nov 24, 2006 at 11:05:56PM -0500, steef wrote:
 And so, on the 17th of December 2006, I will be hosting the first
 Unofficial Debian Training in Utrecht, the Netherlands!
 
 I think it's a great idea. Let's go for it.

 where in utrecht??

*Probably* at my employers place, but I still need to get the word
GO from our facilities group. I'll know on monday. If not, I have
several other options in the centre of Utrecht and at the
University-grounds (de Uithof).

So the location will probably be: 

  SRON: Netherlands Institute for Space Research
  Sorbonnelaan 2
  3584 CA Utrecht (Uithof)

This is still very much a starting project so anything is possible. :-D
My boss is very enthousiastic, but the people in charge of the building
might not be. 

As in: Free trainings developed and given by volunteers for software
also made by volunteers. Madness!

Enjoy!

Maarten


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Re: xserver-xorg: recent upgrade blowed out my X server

2006-11-25 Thread Amit Joshi
On Saturday 25 November 2006 16:30, Chris Bannister wrote:
 On Wed, Nov 22, 2006 at 02:23:53PM +0530, Amit Joshi wrote:
  On Tuesday 21 November 2006 21:56, Raffaele Morelli wrote:
  trimmed
 
   mhhh... I don't have a  Savage Video Cards section,  I am compiling
   from 2.6.8 sources, should I use newer ones?.. but still asking myself
   why it worked..
   going crazy with this!
 
  Yep. You need to upgrade. The 2.6.8 Kernel doesn't support this Video
  Card. I am using the 2.6.17-2 kernel now. Works fine.
 
  I had tried the 2.4 Sarge Kernel. (don't remember the exact version
  number though). The 2.4 kernel used to work fine. Maybe this explains why
  everything was working fine previously.
  But the 2.6.8 kernel (The unstable kernel on the Sarge CD) doesn't
  support the savage module.

 Just installed Sarge (3.1r1 CD's) with 2.6.8 kernel on a machine with
 that video card and the savage driver worked. The s3 driver would NOT
 work.


Oh...its good to see that it has worked with you. I had a lotta trouble with 
the 2.6.8 Kernel on Debian Sarge 3.1r0 and that video card. 

Well..but here I am a bit confused. The 2.6.8 kernel doesn't even have the 
module required for this video card. I wonder how could you do that when its 
not there! The 2.6.8 has the PROSavage module, which I tried with this video 
card, but it did not work. You sure you are using the exact same card as the 
OP?

PS: When the Kernel itself doesn't support something, I guess we have to 
simply switch over to a newer kernel version. (or if the earlier kernel 
versions had it, then probably downgrade) But I don't think it is possible 
when the kernel doesn't support something, external modules can be added to 
it, and that specific thing can be made to work. Correct me if I am wrong. 
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Re: Reportbug - Does it work?

2006-11-25 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:

On Fri, Nov 24, 2006 at 08:41:47PM -0500, Wayne Topa wrote:

My /var/log/emim4/mainlog shows 2 messages sent to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] on 11-20 and accepted my my ISP's mail server.
The one mentioned in this thread and one on crom.


Strange.  You may want to contact your ISP's tech support and see if
they can locate those message IDs in their mail server logs to make sure
that they were sent on from there.


That would get one response from where I am: we don't support that OS.

Hugo




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Re: SATA PCI

2006-11-25 Thread Hans du Plooy
On Sat, 2006-11-25 at 09:11 +0800, Bob wrote:
 Get one based on the Sil 3124-2 for Sata II, it's not supported by older 
 kernels and the driver hasn't been backported to 2.4 yet but it's an 
 open documented design an it's good to buy from manufacturers that help OS.
 
 You may be unable to find one that isn't PCI-X, but don't worry, I run 
 one in a standard pci slot, also it supports FIS-based switching so you 
 can expand it with port multipliers to control 20 drives.

Do you have a link for your card?

Thanks
Hans


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xserver-xorg postinst script Hanging

2006-11-25 Thread Carl Brown
Using testing, installing xserver-xorg 7.1.0-6.

Running a dist-upgrade, xserver-xorg postinst script hangs indefinitely.
There is no disk or CPU activity, I must kill it manually.

Is this a local problem or are others also seeing this?

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Change in mondo behavior

2006-11-25 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Hi,

With the version that is currently in Etch + Sid (2.20-1) there is a 
change in behavior from previous versions.


The mountlist will be what is marked as auto in fstab.

I found this out through the extremely fast response by Debian 
Maintainer Andree Leidenfrost to Bug#400024.


That makes things more complicated because if things are mounted they 
are also archived by mondo, unless you exclude them. It was easier 
before the improvement.


Just to let you know.

Hugo


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Re: Change in mondo behavior

2006-11-25 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

Hi,

With the version that is currently in Etch + Sid (2.20-1) there is a 
change in behavior from previous versions.


The mountlist will be what is marked as auto in fstab.

I found this out through the extremely fast response by Debian 
Maintainer Andree Leidenfrost to Bug#400024.


That makes things more complicated because if things are mounted they 
are also archived by mondo, unless you exclude them. It was easier 
before the improvement.




You can get the old behavior back by having 2 /etc/fstab's: one for 
mondo with the noauto deleted and one real one with noauto set.


To check what kind of mountlist you will end up with without going 
through the torture of an actual mondoarchive run, do this:


mindi --makemountlist /tmp/mount.lst

and it will be shown.

Hugo


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Re: copying files between ext3 and fat32 is slow

2006-11-25 Thread Ottavio Caruso
Kamaraju Kusumanchi wrote:

 I have a usb drive which contains two partitions. One partition is
ext3, the 
 other is fat32

Curiosity, why use ext3 on a flash drive? Have you tried to convert
it to ext2 and see any difference?

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gdm behavior change

2006-11-25 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Hi,

With the upgrade of gdm to 2.16.1-1 in Etch and Sid there is a change in 
behavior from previous versions:


If you have more than one server starting they *used to* start with a 
slight delay, i.e. no all together. That is no longer true. I no longer 
notice a time lag.


I preferred the old way.

Is there a parameter to get it back?

Anybody notice this change?

Hugo


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Re: Reportbug - Does it work?

2006-11-25 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Sat, Nov 25, 2006 at 10:01:52AM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote:
 
 You could reconfigure reportbug to send directly. Use this in your
 ~/.reportbugrc
 
 smtphost=bugs.debian.org
 
Unless the ISP blocks outbound port 25 to hosts outside of their own
MXs.  Based on the OP's statement that the ISP implemented new Spam
controls recently, I am thinking your suggestion may not work.

Regards,

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Re: Bad CC [Was: Re: Reportbug - Does it work?]

2006-11-25 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Sat, Nov 25, 2006 at 10:04:28AM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote:
 Roberto: Sorry for the CC. I thought it was because of the Reply-To
 header. Too late did I realize I was repling to Wayne ...
 

It doesn't matter.  I don't really care about CCs on list mail since
they show up together in Mutt.  The only thing that bothers me is people
who use broken mail servers, which then split the To/CC list and seach
each message individually to each recipient.  This makes it so that my
mail filters don't catch it and place it in the right folder.  This also
makes me think that the person replied to me offlist, when in fact the
person just CCd me or something.

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Re: copying files between ext3 and fat32 is slow

2006-11-25 Thread Kamaraju Kusumanchi
On Saturday 25 November 2006 08:44, Ottavio Caruso wrote:
 Kamaraju Kusumanchi wrote:
  I have a usb drive which contains two partitions. One partition is

 ext3, the

  other is fat32

 Curiosity, why use ext3 on a flash drive? Have you tried to convert
 it to ext2 and see any difference?


Actually this is a 200 GB hard drive which I use for backing up data on 
another computer. Some of the partitions on the USB drive reflect those that 
of partitions on the hard drive. The hard drive in this case consists of a 
bunch of FAT32, NTFS, ext3 partitions.

thanks
raju

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Re: Reportbug - Does it work?

2006-11-25 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Sat, Nov 25, 2006 at 07:13:34AM -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
 
 That would get one response from where I am: we don't support that OS.
 

Yes.  I too have had to deal with that.  Whenever that issue comes up, I
usually just tell them I am running Windows 98, which is the last
version of Windows with which I am resonably familiar.  The first level
tech support usually doesn't care since they have a script.  The key is
to get a phone number for the level 3 or higher tech support.  With my
two previous ISPs this took about two or three hours of dealing with
level 1 and level 2 support.  Usually, what they will do is put you on
hold and go and talk to the next tier themselves.  If you persist, they
will pass you on and when they pass you on, you can generally ask the
person for their direct number.

Generally you know you are at the right level of support when you
mention things like traceroute and routing table and they actually know
what the heck you are talking about.  The downside is that you will
generally end up having to dial long distance since they won't have
toll-free numbers (at least public) into the offices with the higher
level support people.  But I view it as most worthwhile to be able to
call and get an issue resolved in five minutes with someone who knows
what they are doing, rather than spending ten minutes arguing with an
untrained level 1 tech support person that rebooting my machine will in
no way affect the fact that a traceroute shows packets getting through
until it hits the backbone and then getting lost.

Regards,

-Roberto

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apt-get troubles

2006-11-25 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dear all,
I have this messages when I try to do...do you help me?
Thanks in advance

Kind regards

Carmelo

argon:/home/carmelo# apt-get update
Hit http://ftp.it.debian.org unstable/main Packages
Hit http://ftp.it.debian.org unstable/main Release
Hit http://ftp.it.debian.org unstable/contrib Packages
Hit http://ftp.it.debian.org unstable/contrib Release
Hit http://ftp.it.debian.org unstable/non-free Packages
Hit http://ftp.it.debian.org unstable/non-free Release
Err http://ftp.it.debian.org unstable/non-US/main Packages
  404 Not Found [IP: 213.92.8.5 80]
Ign http://ftp.it.debian.org unstable/non-US/main Release
Err http://ftp.it.debian.org unstable/non-US/contrib Packages
  404 Not Found [IP: 213.92.8.5 80]
Ign http://ftp.it.debian.org unstable/non-US/contrib Release
Err http://ftp.it.debian.org unstable/non-US/non-free Packages
  404 Not Found [IP: 213.92.8.5 80]
Ign http://ftp.it.debian.org unstable/non-US/non-free Release
Failed to fetch 
http://ftp.it.debian.org/debian-non-US/dists/unstable/non-US/main/binary-i386/Packages
  404 Not Found [IP: 213.92.8.5 80]
Failed to fetch 
http://ftp.it.debian.org/debian-non-US/dists/unstable/non-US/contrib/binary-i386/Packages
  404 Not Found [IP: 213.92.8.5 80]
Failed to fetch 
http://ftp.it.debian.org/debian-non-US/dists/unstable/non-US/non-free/binary-i386/Packages
  404 Not Found [IP: 213.92.8.5 80]
Reading Package Lists... Error!
E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room
E: Error occured while processing timemachine (NewVersion1)
E: Problem with MergeList 
/var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.it.debian.org_debian_dists_unstable_main_binary-i386_Packages
E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
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Abiword question

2006-11-25 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
I have recently noticed that PDFs produced by abiword are not legible in
xpdf (lots of little boxes).  I am only using Times New Roman and
Courier in these documents.  I am wondering if anyone else has seen this
behavior.  They display correctly in acroread.

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Re: apt-get troubles

2006-11-25 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sat, Nov 25, 2006 at 03:08:47PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Err http://ftp.it.debian.org unstable/non-US/main Packages
   

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but AFAIK non-US doesn't exist anymore.

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Re: apt-get troubles

2006-11-25 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sat, Nov 25, 2006 at 03:08:47PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Reading Package Lists... Error!
 E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room
 E: Error occured while processing timemachine (NewVersion1)
 E: Problem with MergeList 
 /var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.it.debian.org_debian_dists_unstable_main_binary-i386_Packages
 E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
 argon:/home/carmelo#

Or do you mean these errors? The Dynamic MMap ... was usually solved
by putting something like:

APT::Cache-Limit 33554432;

in /etc/apt/apt.conf

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Re: Writting on encrypted partion with Debian sarge reading with Knoppix

2006-11-25 Thread Max Vozeler
Hi Rainer,

On Sat, Nov 18, 2006 at 04:05:30PM +0100, Rainer Dorsch wrote:
 I did specify the -H rmd160, but it did not change anything,
 passphrase was ok, but same error message, when I tried to mount the
 file system.
 
 With losetup /dev/loop0, I got on Knoppix
 
 /dev/loop0: [0011]:9556 (/dev/sda5) encryption=CryptoAPI/blowfish-cbc
 
 On the sarge machine, which can mount the encrypted file system
 correctly, I got
 
 silverboxy:~# losetup /dev/loop0 
 /dev/loop0: [000c]:6517 (/udev/mdisk5), encryption blowfish (type 18) 
 silverboxy:~#
 
 That looks different and I assume that is the reason why I can't mount
 it with knoppix.

That could be. Some difference in the output is normal though: 
The first output is from loop-AES patched losetup, the second by
standard losetup with Debian crypto patch. Both indicate that a
CryptoAPI cipher was used (type 18 == CryptoAPI).

 Can I find out when mounted on the Debian system, what the right
 parameters are?

I wrote a small tool some time ago to dump the actual settings
of an encrypted loop. I'm attaching it to this mail. You should be
able to build it by just calling make. Hopefully it can shed 
light on the actual differences between the setups.

I think I have a suspicion though: The standard losetup in Debian
used to have a bug where it truncated keysizes to 128 bits without
any indication. I think this bug no longer exists, but it could be
that the version in sarge was still affected by it.

You can verify if this is the case if you try losetup -k 128 .. on
the sarge machine. If it decryptes correctly, it is very likely to
be affected by this bug. In that case you should be able to losetup
it on knoppix by saying -e blowfish128 -H rmd160. If that doesn't
work, feel free to send me the output of the loopinfo tool and we
can see if we can figure out the exact difference. Make sure to
strip the line that includes the encryption key though :-)

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directory and file security

2006-11-25 Thread linux china

hi,

May I know a correct settings for ext2, or ext3 filesystem, when files
are written into a directory, or a directory is created under there,
no files are allowed to be deleted anymore.

I think using chattr to set correct permission, I tried  chattr +a
a-dir, the a-dir is owned by a normal user, the normal user can only
write zero size file into that directory, so I have no idea what's the
correct solution for me?


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Re: xserver-xorg postinst script Hanging

2006-11-25 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Sat, Nov 25, 2006 at 08:18:25 -0500, Carl Brown wrote:
 Using testing, installing xserver-xorg 7.1.0-6.
 
 Running a dist-upgrade, xserver-xorg postinst script hangs indefinitely.
 There is no disk or CPU activity, I must kill it manually.
 
 Is this a local problem or are others also seeing this?

The postinst script is here: /var/lib/dpkg/info/xserver-xorg.postinst.
You can change the line

set -e

to

set -xe

(This line is at the beginning of the file, right after the comment
 header.)

Then you can run dpkg --configure xserver-xorg and all the commands of
the postinst script will be echoed to STDOUT as they are called. This
should tell you where it hangs and probably we will then be able to
figure out how to fix it.

(There was a similar case on debian-kde a while ago and it turned out
 that discover was hanging.)

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Re: Laptop choice?

2006-11-25 Thread Hans du Plooy
On Thu, 2006-11-23 at 17:32 -0800, Marc Shapiro wrote:
 Compaq Presario ($399.98 US)
[snip]
 HP ($379.99 US)

Don't buy an HP/Compaq.  Two reasons:

1.  They never perform as good as the hardware suggest.  This has been
my observation over several years dealing with clients who buy nothing
but HP.

2.  HP of late has a filthy habit of boobytrapping their notebooks to
not take generic components.  My nx6125, for example, will not work with
any hard disc other than the 80GB Seagate (with HP firmware) that it
came with.  Sure you can put something else in, but it simply disables
DMA making it hardly usable.  This leaves you with two problems.  If you
run out of space, you can't put something bigger in, and b) if your disc
dies after the warranty ran out, you're going to pay through your nose
for a new drive.  I can also not replace the wireless min-PCI card.
Mine shipped with a broadcom.  At the time, ndiswrapper was quite
unstable, so I put an Atheros card in that I scavanged from an AP.
Notebook wouln't even post - says something like Unsupported PCI
device, please remove.  I thought, OK, I'll buy one from HP - got an HP
branded Intel 2200 card (which was listed as compatible with my
notebook) - same story.

Hans


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Re: VIA epia box does not see onboard ethernet after reboot

2006-11-25 Thread Jens Peter Secher
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 I have two VIA epia boxes. One is an epia5000, and is running
 ipcop, using its onboard ethernet (Via Rhine) and an adittional
 PCI SiS ethernet board; the other is an epia M6000, and is running
 sarge, headless - its a disk / subversion server.

 Both boxes run 24h/day - boots/reboots are rare. However,
 when I need a boot, *sometimes*, both machines are unable
 to load the Via Rhine module.

[...]

 Does anyone (else) faced ethernet problems with these boards?
 Any suggestions?

Well, yes...

I have an M6000 (firewall/server with a home-grown iptable) and had to
replace the PCI ethernet card several times before the card was detected
every time.  I do not remember which cards were problematic, sorry.

Another thing was that udev assigned device numbers (eth0/eth1) randomly
to the NICs, so I had to use a mapping section in
/etc/network/interfaces.  I am not sure if this is still the case with
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Re: how many CDs for v3.1 r3?

2006-11-25 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2006-11-23 12:06:00, schrieb Matus UHLAR - fantomas:
  On my Multimedia-station /tmp is a seperated Western Digital Raptor
  76 GByte...  and my /tmp is arround 40% if I am working.
 
 How many of memory do you have in those machine? 

8 GByte and if I have more money next month
the second 8 GByte. - It is a Dual-Opteron.

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Re: Bitte, nicht schiessen! WAR: Großes Modelcasting - jetzt als Model bewerben

2006-11-25 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2006-11-23 02:40:24, schrieb Mike McCarty:
 Michelle Konzack wrote:

 :-)And if you can not defeat your enemy, ally with him!
 
 Here in the USA we say If you can't beat 'em, join 'em!

Thanks, nice to know since I am not native english speaker.

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Re: Etch status..?

2006-11-25 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2006-11-23 22:15:01, schrieb cga2000:
 I installed the latest 2.6.18.3 alongside the 2.4.27 that initially
 came with the sarge netinst and sure enough my PC card is no longer
 recognized. 
 
 So it looks like I'm stuck with a 2.4 kernel for the lifetime of this
 laptop.

You can install on a working Debian-Machine the package debian-cd
download the source of 2.4.32 and build your own Debian-Install-CD.

I have done this several times before and and since I have 11
computers which do not want to boot with a 686 kernel

This stupid Kernel-Maintainers have included SMP in 686/Etch and the
D-I give me no chance to choose another Kernel

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Re: Help: Developing Free Debian Trainings

2006-11-25 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello Maarten,

Am 2006-11-24 19:18:05, schrieb Maarten Verwijs:
 
 Hello!
 
 I'd like to announce a new project in order to gain world domination for
 Debian. It's my little pet project and I call it The Tipii Project [1].

I do not know your location, but...

 The short term goal of the Tipii Project is to train people in the use
 of Debian GNU/Linux.

I do the same thing in Strasbourg/France and planing to do
this via my Non-Profit Enterprise Tamay Dogan Network
(France, Germany, Moroco, Turkey and Iran)

 The long term goal is to create a set of trainings that will eventually
 lead to Debian Certification, ala Red Hat Certified.

:-)

 Since no company is giving Debian trainings that _I_ know of, I figure I
 might just as well do it myself. And have fun doing it!

So I am not alone!

 Under the name of The Tipii Project, me and a couple of friends have
 just started to develop a set of Debian trainings. This is the earliest
 of beginnings, but it is a beginning.
 
 The idea is to learn by teaching others. By giving a training about any
 given subject, you will learn more about that subject than you did. You
 will also learn more about yourself as a bonus. 
 
 How do we intend to do this? Well:
 - Learn how to give technical trainings
 - Teach others to give trainings
 - Develop trainings
 - Develop workshops
 - Host trainings
 - Host workshops
 - Bring Developers and EndUsers closer together
 - Learn from other experts about any given subject
 - Have fun
 
 There's probably a lot more to do, but this is where we're at right now. 

Nice List!

 The Current Rules: 
 * All materials must be compatible with Debian standards (DFSG)

FullACK!

 * In order to enroll into a training, you must have read certain
   materials or have certain skill (Assessment).

Rigth!

 * All materials will be developed in the open using open tools and
   protocols.

FullACK too!

 And so, on the 17th of December 2006, I will be hosting the first
 Unofficial Debian Training in Utrecht, the Netherlands!

Hey guys, if I find the time, I like to meet you.

 I would love to hear what ideas and possibilities this list sees for the
 Tipii-Project and it's goals. 
 
 One concrete problem I'm having right now is: How do I enable
 open-development of a project such as this? I've set up a subversion
 repository and a Trac-wiki, but am afraid to open up the wiki for the
 world. Dito with the subversion repo. Does anyone have an idea what I'm
 talking about and how to set this up? 
 
 Also, I would like to invite anyone that would like to help out to join
 our Brand New Crew on our Mailinglist: http://lists.tipii-project.org

I will look at it...

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Re: Help: Developing Free Debian Trainings

2006-11-25 Thread Michelle Konzack
Maybe your schould this send to debian-user-german
in german language too (Ich spreche ja auch deutsch).

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Am 2006-11-24 19:18:05, schrieb Maarten Verwijs:
 
 Hello!
 
 I'd like to announce a new project in order to gain world domination for
 Debian. It's my little pet project and I call it The Tipii Project [1].
 
 The short term goal of the Tipii Project is to train people in the use
 of Debian GNU/Linux.
 
 The long term goal is to create a set of trainings that will eventually
 lead to Debian Certification, ala Red Hat Certified.
 
 Since no company is giving Debian trainings that _I_ know of, I figure I
 might just as well do it myself. And have fun doing it!
 
 Under the name of The Tipii Project, me and a couple of friends have
 just started to develop a set of Debian trainings. This is the earliest
 of beginnings, but it is a beginning.
 
 The idea is to learn by teaching others. By giving a training about any
 given subject, you will learn more about that subject than you did. You
 will also learn more about yourself as a bonus. 
 
 How do we intend to do this? Well:
 - Learn how to give technical trainings
 - Teach others to give trainings
 - Develop trainings
 - Develop workshops
 - Host trainings
 - Host workshops
 - Bring Developers and EndUsers closer together
 - Learn from other experts about any given subject
 - Have fun
 
 There's probably a lot more to do, but this is where we're at right now. 
 
 The Current Rules: 
 * All materials must be compatible with Debian standards (DFSG)
 * In order to enroll into a training, you must have read certain
   materials or have certain skill (Assessment).
 * All materials will be developed in the open using open tools and
   protocols.
 
 And so, on the 17th of December 2006, I will be hosting the first
 Unofficial Debian Training in Utrecht, the Netherlands!
 
 I would love to hear what ideas and possibilities this list sees for the
 Tipii-Project and it's goals. 
 
 One concrete problem I'm having right now is: How do I enable
 open-development of a project such as this? I've set up a subversion
 repository and a Trac-wiki, but am afraid to open up the wiki for the
 world. Dito with the subversion repo. Does anyone have an idea what I'm
 talking about and how to set this up? 
 
 Also, I would like to invite anyone that would like to help out to join
 our Brand New Crew on our Mailinglist: http://lists.tipii-project.org
 
 
 Kind regards and thanks for your input, 
 
 Maarten
 
 
 
 [1] http://www.tipii-project.org
 
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Re: Paritioning Issue

2006-11-25 Thread user local

2006/11/21, Baz [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


Hello.  This is really basic in regard to all the other mail I've seen so
far here - but, here goes...

New to Debian.  Trying to install Sarge from DVD on my Thinkpad (Z60t).
 At the partitioning prompt - only two options: completely overwrite the HD
(guided?) or manual configuration.



If you have no unsaved data on your second partition, you may delete it from
XP; After this you should see a third option, the one about free space. In
manual instalation you could also see a so called hidden partition, used by
laptop manufactureres for some mundane system tasks. If you still want to
use the original operating system, let it untouched.

Debian is good.

If you want to rather accomodate w/, should be better to try an Debian Live
flavour first.


cdrecord / xcdroast on Sarge / 2.6.8-3 as user - FYI

2006-11-25 Thread Uwe Dippel
Call this redundant (and soon - with Etch - outdated).

The archive is full of posts on this topic, but none seems to wrap it up.
Instead of you having to to sort it out, try this:

1. All this 'ATAPI' is logically correct, but not technically. Use 'ATA'.

2. 'cdrecord dev=ATA: -scanbus' is the way to go.

3. Then use the result of 2 above for your commands for cdrecord; as in
cdrecord -v blank=fast dev=ATA:1,1,0 (whatever 2 came up with).

4. Delete the found device in xcdroast, add [ATA:1,1,0] manually in the
setup, wait for it to recognize the drive. Save.

Enjoy either of the two as user. Instead of sudo, root or set-uid:

# ls -l /usr/bin/cdrecord*
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root133 2005-01-10 00:55 /usr/bin/cdrecord
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root 348556 2005-01-10 00:55 /usr/bin/cdrecord.mmap
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root 351404 2005-01-10 00:55 /usr/bin/cdrecord.shm

# ls -l /dev/hdd
brw-rw  1 root disk 22, 64 2004-04-30 08:27 /dev/hdd

The only thing needed is that your user is member of group 'disk'. The
latter shows why.

Have fun,

Uwe



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Re: cdrecord / xcdroast on Sarge / 2.6.8-3 as user - FYI

2006-11-25 Thread Stephan Seitz

On Sun, Nov 26, 2006 at 01:22:47AM +0800, Uwe Dippel wrote:

# ls -l /dev/hdd
brw-rw  1 root disk 22, 64 2004-04-30 08:27 /dev/hdd
The only thing needed is that your user is member of group 'disk'. The
latter shows why.


Don’t use the group disk, use group cdrom instead. Anyone in group disk 
can read and write direct to the disks (e.g deleting partitions). You 
don’t want this.


Shade and sweet water!

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Re: Help: Developing Free Debian Trainings

2006-11-25 Thread Baz

I believe this is an excellent idea.  I'm new to Debian - and, even though
I'm encountering difficulty, the social aspect of the Project is certainly a
saving grace.  I'd like to suggest a focus of this training - laptops.
Laptop users, as I've read and experienced, face a steeper learning curve
because of the specialty hardware requirements.

Regards,
Sebastian

On 11/25/06, Michelle Konzack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Maybe your schould this send to debian-user-german
in german language too (Ich spreche ja auch deutsch).

Thanks, Greetings and nice Day
Michelle Konzack
Systemadministrator
Tamay Dogan Network
Debian GNU/Linux Consultant


Am 2006-11-24 19:18:05, schrieb Maarten Verwijs:

 Hello!

 I'd like to announce a new project in order to gain world domination for
 Debian. It's my little pet project and I call it The Tipii Project
[1].

 The short term goal of the Tipii Project is to train people in the use
 of Debian GNU/Linux.

 The long term goal is to create a set of trainings that will eventually
 lead to Debian Certification, ala Red Hat Certified.

 Since no company is giving Debian trainings that _I_ know of, I figure I
 might just as well do it myself. And have fun doing it!

 Under the name of The Tipii Project, me and a couple of friends have
 just started to develop a set of Debian trainings. This is the earliest
 of beginnings, but it is a beginning.

 The idea is to learn by teaching others. By giving a training about any
 given subject, you will learn more about that subject than you did. You
 will also learn more about yourself as a bonus.

 How do we intend to do this? Well:
 - Learn how to give technical trainings
 - Teach others to give trainings
 - Develop trainings
 - Develop workshops
 - Host trainings
 - Host workshops
 - Bring Developers and EndUsers closer together
 - Learn from other experts about any given subject
 - Have fun

 There's probably a lot more to do, but this is where we're at right now.

 The Current Rules:
 * All materials must be compatible with Debian standards (DFSG)
 * In order to enroll into a training, you must have read certain
   materials or have certain skill (Assessment).
 * All materials will be developed in the open using open tools and
   protocols.

 And so, on the 17th of December 2006, I will be hosting the first
 Unofficial Debian Training in Utrecht, the Netherlands!

 I would love to hear what ideas and possibilities this list sees for the
 Tipii-Project and it's goals.

 One concrete problem I'm having right now is: How do I enable
 open-development of a project such as this? I've set up a subversion
 repository and a Trac-wiki, but am afraid to open up the wiki for the
 world. Dito with the subversion repo. Does anyone have an idea what I'm
 talking about and how to set this up?

 Also, I would like to invite anyone that would like to help out to join
 our Brand New Crew on our Mailinglist: http://lists.tipii-project.org


 Kind regards and thanks for your input,

 Maarten



 [1] http://www.tipii-project.org

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The Linux Code

2006-11-25 Thread Baz

I saw this yesterday via Google Video.  Excellent!  I had no idea Linus
lives here in the Bay Area.

- Baz

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How can I verify hardware compatibility?

2006-11-25 Thread Grok Mogger
I'm planning on buying components individually and piecing 
together a computer.  I'd like to install Debian Linux on it. 
I'm not buying any of the latest and greatest stuff, and the 
hardware I have picked out is pretty standard fare, nothing too 
fancy.  So I'm pretty sure everything will just work (TM), but 
I'd still kind of like to verify each piece before I just buy 
everything, slap it together, install and pray.


I was wondering if anyone could suggest any techniques, very 
good websites, or anything else to try to verify that, yes, 
there are indeed working drivers for my hardware.


Thanks,
- GM


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Re: How can I verify hardware compatibility?

2006-11-25 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Sat, Nov 25, 2006 at 01:36:19PM -0500, Grok Mogger wrote:
 I'm planning on buying components individually and piecing 
 together a computer.  I'd like to install Debian Linux on it. 
 I'm not buying any of the latest and greatest stuff, and the 
 hardware I have picked out is pretty standard fare, nothing too 
 fancy.  So I'm pretty sure everything will just work (TM), but 
 I'd still kind of like to verify each piece before I just buy 
 everything, slap it together, install and pray.
 
 I was wondering if anyone could suggest any techniques, very 
 good websites, or anything else to try to verify that, yes, 
 there are indeed working drivers for my hardware.
 
Probably the best way to verify hardware compatibility is to take one of
the systems you want to get and boot a Knoppix CD or DVD on it.  Since
you are building from components, I am guessing that you want to know
before you get the components.  In that case, providing a list of
prospective components to this list will probably elicit some helpful
replies.

I would not put a great deal of stock in hardware compatibility lists
you find online.  The main exception to that are the lists provided by
the developers of a particular driver or package.  For example, if you
want to get a digital camera, I would trust the gphoto development page
to have an up to date list of what cameras do and do not work in the
latest release.  Same with scanners and SANE, as well as lm-sensors and
motherboard sensor chips.  Beyond that, I'm not sure.

Regards,

-Roberto

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Re: The Linux Code

2006-11-25 Thread Igor Guerrero Fonseca
Are you goin to visit him?

Say hello and thanks to Linus for me!!!

That video not only Linus is in... also Richard M. Stallman, Miguel de
Icaza, Alan Cox and a lot a lot more!!!

El sáb, 25-11-2006 a las 10:33 -0800, Baz escribió:
 I saw this yesterday via Google Video.  Excellent!  I had no idea
 Linus lives here in the Bay Area.  
 
 - Baz
 
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xmms alternative, please comment

2006-11-25 Thread LeVA
Hi!

I'm searching for an xmms alternative which can use a multimedia 
keyboard's extra keys. (Now I am using xmms + itouch plugin)

ps.: please cc me

Thanks!
Daniel

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Re: Reportbug - Does it work?

2006-11-25 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Sat, Nov 25, 2006 at 01:48:49PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 That's the main thing I looked for when I sought an ISP -- I call their 
 tech support and find out if they choke when I mention I run Linux and 
 ask them what drivers or kernel modules I need to use their cable modem.  
 If they don't choke and talk to me in like language I know they're OK.
 
Agreed.

 I settled on dsl.ca as my ISP.  Every time they are taken over ny a 
 bigger organisation I get to worry for a while.  Currently, I believe 
 they're called magma.ca, and seem to be aprt of primus.
 
That is why I chose Speakeasy.  For a long time I lived in an area where
the did not have DSL service available.  That really annoyed me as I had
to settle for the local monopoly carrier for DSL.  Speakeasy is great,
they support Linux (in fact their shell server and, IIRC, the web and
ftp cluster, run Debian).  When I call with an issue (which is seldom) I
am rarely on hold for more than 30 seconds and the first line tech
support person knows what ping, traceroute and ifconfig all mean.

The best example I have of their tech support was when I convinced my
church to move its hosting from some third-rate mass hosting provider to
Speakeasy (this was in conjunction with getting DSL service to the
church and school building).  I moved the web content over to
Speakeasy's web cluster.  Whenever I tried to bring up the page, I got
a 500 server error.  I called their tech support, explained what I
thought the problem was (mod_rewrite rules).  While the first tech I
spoke to did not know what mod_rewrite was, she at least know what
Apache was and the I was talking about the apache configuration.  She
said she would pass the information on to someone else.

A couple of hours later, I got an email that the ticket had been closed.
One of their web developers had looked at the .htaccess file and
modified it for me.  Something I had hacked in there to work with the
previous hosting provider was not compatible with Speakeasy's Apache
configuration.

Regards,

-Roberto

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Re: The Linux Code

2006-11-25 Thread Baz

Yea, exactly.  It's a must see.  I don't exactly where he lives - but,
there's many tech conventions here and who knows, I may accidently see him.

On 11/25/06, Igor Guerrero Fonseca [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Are you goin to visit him?

Say hello and thanks to Linus for me!!!

That video not only Linus is in... also Richard M. Stallman, Miguel de
Icaza, Alan Cox and a lot a lot more!!!

El sáb, 25-11-2006 a las 10:33 -0800, Baz escribió:
 I saw this yesterday via Google Video.  Excellent!  I had no idea
 Linus lives here in the Bay Area.

 - Baz

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