Re: XP and Samba.....again

[Mihira Fernando]

On Thursday 21 December 2006 00:07, schmity wrote:
> Newbie here.   I have a home network with a XP machine and a Debian
> machine connected through a router.  I have not set Static IP's on
> either machine.  I am trying to connect these machines with samba, and
> I have made a simple smb.conf file as follows:
>
> ###
> [global]
># Server configuration paramaters
>netbios name = LINUXBOX
>server string = Samba %v on (%L)
>workgroup = SANDSTORM
Is the Windows XP pc on the same workgroup ?
>encrypt passwords = yes
add :
security = shared
here.
>
> [data]
>path = /export/samba/data
>comment = Data Drive
>volume = Sample-drive
>guest ok = yes
>
> [test]
>comment = TEsting
>path = /export/samba/test
>read only = no
>guest ok = yes
> 
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XP and Samba.....again

[schmity]

Newbie here.   I have a home network with a XP machine and a Debian
machine connected through a router.  I have not set Static IP's on
either machine.  I am trying to connect these machines with samba, and
I have made a simple smb.conf file as follows:

###
[global]
   # Server configuration paramaters
   netbios name = LINUXBOX
   server string = Samba %v on (%L)
   workgroup = SANDSTORM
   encrypt passwords = yes

[data]
   path = /export/samba/data
   comment = Data Drive
   volume = Sample-drive
   guest ok = yes

[test]
   comment = TEsting
   path = /export/samba/test
   read only = no
   guest ok = yes


Also from the command line I did


Linuxbox:/home/brent# smbpasswd brent
New SMB password:
Retype new SMB password:
Linuxbox:/home/brent# cat /etc/samba/smbpasswd
brent:1000:874EA23DF4AFD3CFC2265B23734E0DAC:153EDE431C871577C60F69CAD6DF1601:[U
]:LCT-45895F8A:
Linuxbox:/home/brent#
Linuxbox:/home/brent# ls -l /etc/samba/smbpasswd
-rw---  1 root root 105 2006-12-20 10:06 /etc/samba/smbpasswd
##

and an smbclient -U% -L localhost returns the following:

##
Linuxbox:/home/brent# smbclient -U% -L localhost
Domain=[SANDSTORM] OS=[Unix] Server=[Samba 3.0.14a-Debian]

Sharename   Type  Comment
-     ---
dataDisk  Data Drive
testDisk  TEsting
IPC$IPC   IPC Service (Samba 3.0.14a-Debian on
(linuxbox))
ADMIN$  IPC   IPC Service (Samba 3.0.14a-Debian on
(linuxbox))
lp  Printer   Generic dot-matrix printer entry
Domain=[SANDSTORM] OS=[Unix] Server=[Samba 3.0.14a-Debian]

Server   Comment
----
BLACKBOX Black Computer
LINUXBOX Samba 3.0.14a-Debian

WorkgroupMaster
----
SANDSTORMBLACKBOX
###

I can see LINUXBOX on the XP machine.  When I double click on
"Linuxbox" on the XP machine it prompts me for a username and password.
 I fill in the appropriate username and password hit enter, and it
prompts me again for the username and password except that in username
it has BLACKBOX\brent filled in (Blackbox is the name of the XP machine
and "brent" is the username).  I am using the same username and
password for Samba, the Debian logon, and the XP logon.


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changing alt-tab behavior in fullscreen mode

[Kamaraju Kusumanchi]

Server : Debian, Etch, vncserver 3.3.7-13
Client : Windows, Xp, vncviewer 3.3.7

When I access the vnc session in fulscreen mode on the windows machine, the 
alt-tab is not being sent to the Debian machine. Pressing alt-tab just 
switches the windows on the Windows machine. How can I make alt-tab switch 
windows among the vnc session's windows? or is there any other shortcut to 
switch windows among the windows session?

I have read http://www.realvnc.com/faq.html, googled around, searched the 
mailing list archives but could not find any solution to this problem!

If both client, server are on the Debian's machine, then there are no problems 
with the alt-tab behavior. The issue arises only if the client is being run 
on Windows!

thanks
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Browsing source packages

[Mumia W..]

Aptitude lets people browse the binary packages that are available for 
Debian--very nice. But what do I do if I want to browse the source packages?




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Re: "Local Packages": can I use /opt/ ?

[David E. Fox]

On Tue, 19 Dec 2006 19:07:52 +0700
"Ali Milis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Suppose there exists large-company.com and
> branch1.large-company.com. Both are producing "local packages"
> which may conflict with each others.

/opt may be better for one, since there may be conflict. The
FHS opines that /opt is really for large, static, software
packages. 

3.2.1.5. The /opt/ Directory
The /opt/ directory provides storage for large, static application
software packages. A package placing files in the /opt/ directory
creates a directory bearing the same name as the package. This
directory in turn holds files that otherwise would be scattered
throughout the file system, giving the system administrator an easy way
to determine the role of each file within a particular package.


For example, if sample is the name of a particular software package
located within the /opt/ directory, then all of its files could be
placed within directories inside the /opt/sample/ directory, such
as /opt/sample/bin/ for binaries and /opt/sample/man/ for manual pages.

> regards,
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Re: Daemonologists wanted

[David Liontooth]

Paul Johnson wrote:

> For posterity, it might be helpful to post what motherboard and chipset
> that's for.

Right -- this is a Gigabyte K8NS Ultra-939. The Gigabyte K8NSC-939 has the
same "AMD Athlon64/FX or Opteron temperature sensor", as does the Tyan
Tomcat S8350 and lots of other amd64 boards -- basically anything with
the "00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8
[Athlon64/Opteron] Miscellaneous Control" chip, as shown by lspci. The
driver is new in 2.6.19 and works fine.

It might even be worth bugreporting the behavior that the sensor daemon
fails if a probed sensor is absent, but I suspect that's a Debian issue,
not an upstream sensors issue?

Dave



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Re: smooth upgrades

[Andrew Sackville-West]

On Wed, Dec 20, 2006 at 05:25:51PM -0800, tom arnall wrote:
> On Wednesday 20 December 2006 15:41, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> > On Wed, Dec 20, 2006 at 02:20:16PM -0800, tom arnall wrote:
> > > and until 'etch' becomes 'stable', do i get rid of the ref's to 'stable'
> > > in sources.list once i've replaced 'testing' with 'etch'? or have the
> > > ref's to 'stable' been ignored all along, beginning at the point where i
> > > put the ref's to 'testing' in sources.list?
> >
> > ugh. that's another problem. what is the contents of apt.conf?
> 
> i have only '/usr/share/doc/apt/examples/apt.conf'. content is:
> 
>   // $Id: apt.conf,v 1.43 1999/12/06 02:19:38 jgg Exp $
>   /* This file is a sample configuration file with a few harmless sample 
>   options.   
>   */
> 
>   APT 
>   {
> // Options for apt-get
> Get 
> {
> Download-Only "false";
> };
> 
>   };
> 
>   // Options for the downloading routines
>   Acquire
>   {
> Retries "0";
>   };
> 
>   // Things that effect the APT dselect method
>   DSelect 
>   {
> Clean "auto";   // always|auto|prompt|never
>   };
> 
>   DPkg 
>   {
> // Probably don't want to use force-downgrade..
> Options {"--force-overwrite";}
>   }
>   
> 
> >
> > and how about uname -a?
> 
> debian:/etc/apt# uname -a
> Linux debian 2.6.16.4 #1 PREEMPT Sun Apr 16 06:39:49 PDT 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
> 
> >
> > IOW, what are you currently running? just because you have both stable
> > and testing in your sources.list doesn't mean you are necessarily
> > running one or the other.
> >
> > If you are truly running testing, then you can comment out the stable
> > lines. If you are running stable then the move to testing is a big one
> > and not taken lightly.
> >
> > A
> 
> 
> the content of sources.list btw is:
> 
>   deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian\
>   stable  maincontrib non-free
>   #deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian-non-US\
>   stable/non-US   maincontrib non-free
>   deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian\
>   etchmaincontrib non-free
>   #deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian-non-US\
>   etch/non-US  main   contrib non-free
> 
>   #deb http://linux.csua.berkeley.edu/debian/ \
>   stable  mainnon-freecontrib
>deb http://security.debian.org/\
>   stable/updates  maincontrib non-free
>   #deb http://linux.csua.berkeley.edu/debian/ \
>   etchmainnon-freecontrib
>deb http://security.debian.org/\
>   etch/updates main   contrib non-free
> 
> i replaced 'testing' with 'etch' today and haven't used apt-get since.
> 
> how do i tell which version (testing/stable) i'm running?
> 

you'll have to check the version numbers of a few things. I don't know
how apt behaves if you don't specify a default distribution when there
are multiple sources. for example, I have my apt_preferences set for
"sid" on this machine as follows:

APT::Default-Release "sid";

on another machine I have it set in apt.conf, which is probably
wrong. 

regardless, what is your version of libc6? that's probably the best
indicator at this point. one of my etch boxes is running

dpkg -l | grep libc6
ii  libc6 2.3.6.ds1-8 GNU C
Library: Shared libraries
ii  libc6-dev 2.3.6.ds1-8 GNU C
Library: Development Libraries and Hea
ii  libc6-i6862.3.6.ds1-8 GNU C
Library: Shared libraries [i686 optimi

stable is currently, per packages.debian.org, 2.3.2

so figure out which you're running and that will clue you in to what
to do. If you're actually running stable, despite the entries in
sources.list, then you should probably stay there until etch moves
stable and we see what the shake-up is. If you are running etch, then
you can leave your entries like they are, or delete stable if you
want, as etch and stable will soon be synonomous. Once etch is stable,
you'll probably want to delete the etch lines so you don't someday
follow etch into oldstable. 

A


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unscientific debian users world survey

[Ken Irving]

I've been messing around with timestamps and timezones lately, and was
curious to see how posts to debian users might be distributed around
the globe, as indicated in the message timestamp.

My local archive of the du list is far from complete, as I tend to 
delete a lot of stuff and it only goes back about 3 years, with about
8000 messages currently stored.

$ grep ^Date: ~/Mail/list/debian/user | \
  perl -ne 'print "$1\n" if m/([+-][01]\d\d\d)/' | \
  sort -n | uniq -c
  1 -1200
 72 -0900
791 -0800
875 -0700
806 -0600
   1481 -0500
944 -0400
 56 -0300
 45 -0200
 31 -
499 +
   1082 +0100
736 +0200
 52 +0300
  4 +0400
 43 +0530
  1 +0545
  9 +0700
150 +0800
 49 +0900
  9 +0930
101 +1000
  5 +1030
 93 +1100
 16 +1200
 20 +1300

This simplistic view ignores daylight savings effects and any number of
other complicating factors, but I think it gives a crude hint at the span
of debian users around the world.

I'd like to be able to extend the pipe to maybe plot a bar chart against
a world map, but that'll have to wait.

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Re: Imagen de disco en Debian

[Roberto C. Sanchez]

Alejandro,

Esta list es para discusiones en inglés.  Si preferies, hay una lista
disponible (debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org) para discusiones en
español.

On Wed, Dec 20, 2006 at 09:55:53PM -0300, Alejandro wrote:
> Tengo un servidor Debian Etch el cual debo llevarlo a un data center 
> ajeno para hacer housing. Este servidor tiene un solo disco y no quiero 
> correr el riesgo de que un dia se rompa y quedar fuera de servicio. Por 
> lo tanto, quiero poner como esclavo un segundo disco exactamente igual 
> al primero que tenga una imagen del mismo y hacer backups diarios para 
> tenerlos sincronizados: en caso de que se rompa el primer disco tengo la 
> opcion de colocar el segundo como primario y listo.
> 
> Entonces que paquete puedo usar para hacer la imagen del disco primario 
> al secundario ?? O hay algun comando Linux que me permita copiar un 
> disco a otro en forma exacta ???
> 
Mejor es investigar RAID1.  Si el segundo disco es del mismo tamaño al
primero (o más grande), entonces puedes hacer RAID1.  Usando algo como
SMART, puedes lograr que el servidor te manda un correo electronico
cuando se falla un disco, pero sigue operando como normal.  Cuando
puedes, cambias el disco fallecido por uno nuevo, y el servidor
automaticamente sincroniza los contenidos al disco nuevo.

Saludos,

-Roberto

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Re: smooth upgrades

[tom arnall]

On Wednesday 20 December 2006 15:41, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 20, 2006 at 02:20:16PM -0800, tom arnall wrote:
> > and until 'etch' becomes 'stable', do i get rid of the ref's to 'stable'
> > in sources.list once i've replaced 'testing' with 'etch'? or have the
> > ref's to 'stable' been ignored all along, beginning at the point where i
> > put the ref's to 'testing' in sources.list?
>
> ugh. that's another problem. what is the contents of apt.conf?

i have only '/usr/share/doc/apt/examples/apt.conf'. content is:

// $Id: apt.conf,v 1.43 1999/12/06 02:19:38 jgg Exp $
/* This file is a sample configuration file with a few harmless sample 
options.   
*/

APT 
{
  // Options for apt-get
  Get 
  {
  Download-Only "false";
  };

};

// Options for the downloading routines
Acquire
{
  Retries "0";
};

// Things that effect the APT dselect method
DSelect 
{
  Clean "auto";   // always|auto|prompt|never
};

DPkg 
{
  // Probably don't want to use force-downgrade..
  Options {"--force-overwrite";}
}


>
> and how about uname -a?

debian:/etc/apt# uname -a
Linux debian 2.6.16.4 #1 PREEMPT Sun Apr 16 06:39:49 PDT 2006 i686 GNU/Linux

>
> IOW, what are you currently running? just because you have both stable
> and testing in your sources.list doesn't mean you are necessarily
> running one or the other.
>
> If you are truly running testing, then you can comment out the stable
> lines. If you are running stable then the move to testing is a big one
> and not taken lightly.
>
> A


the content of sources.list btw is:

deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian\
stable  maincontrib non-free
#deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian-non-US\
stable/non-US   maincontrib non-free
deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian\
etchmaincontrib non-free
#deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian-non-US\
etch/non-US  main   contrib non-free

#deb http://linux.csua.berkeley.edu/debian/ \
stable  mainnon-freecontrib
 deb http://security.debian.org/\
stable/updates  maincontrib non-free
#deb http://linux.csua.berkeley.edu/debian/ \
etchmainnon-freecontrib
 deb http://security.debian.org/\
etch/updates main   contrib non-free

i replaced 'testing' with 'etch' today and haven't used apt-get since.

how do i tell which version (testing/stable) i'm running?

tom







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Re: New User Information Request

[Black Dew]

Michael Fothergill wrote:

I guess (and other people on the list here will correct me if I am 
wrong) that you are going to need the AMD64 version of Debian.


Not necessarily. i386 works just fine on 64 cpus

The gain in performance from running a 64bit kernel is hardly noticeable 
in most common tasks



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Imagen de disco en Debian

[Alejandro]

Tengo un servidor Debian Etch el cual debo llevarlo a un data center 
ajeno para hacer housing. Este servidor tiene un solo disco y no quiero 
correr el riesgo de que un dia se rompa y quedar fuera de servicio. Por 
lo tanto, quiero poner como esclavo un segundo disco exactamente igual 
al primero que tenga una imagen del mismo y hacer backups diarios para 
tenerlos sincronizados: en caso de que se rompa el primer disco tengo la 
opcion de colocar el segundo como primario y listo.


Entonces que paquete puedo usar para hacer la imagen del disco primario 
al secundario ?? O hay algun comando Linux que me permita copiar un 
disco a otro en forma exacta ???


Gracias

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Re: Linux friendly colour printer?

[Ron Johnson]

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> Digby Tarvin wrote:
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[snip]
> we still have printer ports, right?).  I've had better luck with Epson than

You're too young to remember when computers talked to printers via
serial ports.  There was great celebration when printers started
coming with Centronics parallel ports.  Macs used LocalTalk (a non-
RS232 serial interface) for years.  Macs might have even connected
to LaserWriters via SCSI cables, but don't hold me to it.

> HP, since Epson doesn't put the most expensive part of the printer (print
> head) on the ink cartridge itself (you just have to clean the print head
> occasionally).

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moving var

[nomar]

I'd recommend using rsync for this kind of thing.


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rsnapshot

[nomar]

Have a look at an application called rsnapshot:

http://www.rsnapshot.org/

# apt-get install rsnapshot


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interfaces

[nomar]

# man interfaces

You'll find the config file here:

/etc/network/interfaces


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Re: New User Information Request

[Clive Menzies]

On (20/12/06 15:30), Laura J. Portscheller wrote:
> I am very new to linux.  I have used it to a minimal extent and like
> it, but have no experience in system administration and all the many
> technical matters involved with it.  I want to install linux on my
> laptop and want to make sure that there are no compatibility problems
> with your product.  I first tried to install fedora core 6 and it
> would not operate properly, even with the attempts to resolve the
> matter by very experienced users.  I wanted to make sure that your
> product will be completely compatible with my computer.  I have a new
> HP dv9000 17 inch widescreen laptop with 2 100GB hard drives, and
> nvidia gforce praphics card, bluetooth, and an AMD processor.  Thanks

The easiest way to verify that your laptop will run debian is, download
a knoppix or ubuntu live CD and if they work you will be able to install
debian:

http://www.knoppix.org/
http://www.ubuntu.com/

nvidia cards are fairly well supported

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Re: smooth upgrades

[Andrew Sackville-West]

On Wed, Dec 20, 2006 at 02:20:16PM -0800, tom arnall wrote:
> 
> 
> and until 'etch' becomes 'stable', do i get rid of the ref's to 'stable' in 
> sources.list once i've replaced 'testing' with 'etch'? or have the ref's 
> to 'stable' been ignored all along, beginning at the point where i put the 
> ref's to 'testing' in sources.list?
> 


ugh. that's another problem. what is the contents of apt.conf? 

and how about uname -a? 

IOW, what are you currently running? just because you have both stable
and testing in your sources.list doesn't mean you are necessarily
running one or the other. 

If you are truly running testing, then you can comment out the stable
lines. If you are running stable then the move to testing is a big one
and not taken lightly. 

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RE: New User Information Request

[Michael Fothergill]

Hi there,


From: "Laura J. Portscheller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Subject: New User Information Request
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 15:30:51 -0700

I am very new to linux.


I was once too  I had used Unix machines before however.

I have used it to a minimal extent and like it, but have no experience in 
system administration and all the many technical matters involved with it.  
I want to install linux on my laptop and want to make sure that there are no 
compatibility problems with your product.  I first tried to install fedora 
core 6 and it would not operate properly, even with the attempts to resolve 
the matter by very experienced users.  I wanted to make sure that your 
product will be completely compatible with my computer.  I have a new HP 
dv9000 17 inch widescreen laptop with 2 100GB hard drives, and nvidia gforce 
praphics card, bluetooth, and an AMD processor.


I wish I had such a nice computer.  Mine also has an AMD chip in it but it 
is older than yours I suspect.  Mine is a 1200 MHz Duron chip.


As well as running Debian Sarge 3.1 on an ancient machine at work I also run 
Debian Etch on my machine here at home.  I also run Fedora Core 6 on the 
machine at home.  I can switch between Debian and Fedora when I boot up the 
PC.


Because I use such old machines I don't know that much about the spanking 
new architecture you have.


But I have taken some interest in newer AMD chips and boxes recently.  If 
your AMD chip is an AMD Sempron 2800 or 3000 or even an Athlon AMD 64 (I 
think that's what it's called, then you need a version of Linux that runs on 
a 64 bit chip.


The AMD Duron chip I have is a 32 bit type and I use the i386 versions of 
Debian and Fedora


I guess (and other people on the list here will correct me if I am wrong) 
that you are going to need the AMD64 version of Debian.


Sometimes Linux can be a bit harder to install on laptops I have heard.  One 
day I will have enough cash to buy one and find out for myself.


I would say it's also worth finding out a little bit more about the 100GB 
hard drives you have.  Are they ATA/IDE drives or SATA ones?


SATA ones are better I think most people agree but some operating systems 
are still getting drivers written for them that can deal with every SATA 
drive on the market.  I have heard that even Windows Vista has problems with 
some SATA hard drives.


Rumour has it that Debian Etch is rather good at recognising SATA drives.  I 
suspect the OS will recognise your graphics card and the display without too 
much difficulty.


If you have a reasonable internet connection you could download and burn 
yourself a netinstall CD for the version of Debian you choose and then boot 
up and then do an internet based installation of the operating system.


I would say that you should read some of the documentation associated with 
the version of the OS you want to install that is found on the 
www.debian.org site.  In my experience this provides some help in guiding 
you through the installation process but you ought to ask some questions on 
the site here as well from time to time to complement this activity.


This is a balanced approach in my opinion.

It does take a bit of effort to learn to install and use linux.  But you 
will gain a greater since of personal ownership and participation in the 
business of customising it your individual requirements.


After a while you will begin to see proprietary operating systems as a bit 
like the old Model T Ford cars - you can have any colour you like as long 
its black, etc.


Hope this helps a bit.

Regards

Michael Fothergill

















































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Re: New User Information Request

[Andrew Sackville-West]

On Wed, Dec 20, 2006 at 03:30:51PM -0700, Laura J. Portscheller wrote:
> I am very new to linux.  I have used it to a minimal extent and like it, but 
> have no experience in system administration and all the many technical 
> matters involved with it.  I want to install linux on my laptop and want to 
> make sure that there are no compatibility problems with your product.  I 
> first tried to install fedora core 6 and it would not operate properly, even 
> with the attempts to resolve the matter by very experienced users.  I wanted 
> to make sure that your product will be completely compatible with my 
> computer.  I have a new HP dv9000 17 inch widescreen laptop with 2 100GB hard 
> drives, and nvidia gforce praphics card, bluetooth, and an AMD processor.  
> Thanks

havving made some meager attempts to install linux on a couple older
laptops, I can say it is not easy. First stop has got to be:
www.linux-laptops.net

you've had trouble with fc6... what sort of trouble? details on what
the problems were would help us a lot. 

also, a complete listing of the hardware would be good to. It is
likely that you could get linux installed and operating, but you will
likely *not* get all the hardware working as well as it should.

.02

good luck.

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Re: moving /var

[Andrew Sackville-West]

On Wed, Dec 20, 2006 at 10:01:35PM -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 20, 2006 at 01:41:11PM -0500, Greg Folkert wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, 2006-12-20 at 14:36 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > I recently tried to move /var to a new partition.  Booted from some
> > > live cd, moved it and edited /etc/fstab to suit.  Broke the machine
> > > as it wouldn't boot afterwards (in fact I recollect it booted but with

[...]
> > >
> > > What should I have done?
> >
> > I have done it many times from LiveCD, also from Single user mode. I had
> > to turn off some logging and other things even in single user mode.
> >
> > Effectively you have to make sure you get everything. If you are running
> > Ubuntu there are additional items you need to make sure are taken care
> > of. (Make sure /var/run and /var/lock are on the root partition for
> > tmpfs filesystems)

[...]
> >
> > So, what did you do to move it? (list of commands used, would be good)
> 
> Hmm, it's a couple of weeks ago now.  I usually use cp -a for things
> like this and then rename the directory and make a new one to mount to,
> but in this case I think I used mv.  I don't think there are any critical
> symlinks. The old /var directory was definitely empty after the move,
> because I checked.  Anyway cp -a back again put everything into place
> and the system booted as normal afterwards.

when I've done it in the past, I have tar'd the whole directory, cp'd
and untar'd it in the new location, change fstab and reboot. done. I
don't see why cp -a wouldn't work too... hmmm... maybe you've got some
other problem and this is just a symptom.

> 
> The implication of your comments is that you don't think there was any
> problem with initrd. In fact, I am sure I have done this before with no
> problems.  I was surprised when there was a problem.  I did also move
> /usr (to another partition) which was of course trouble-free.  Perhaps I
> shall try again when I get back to that box ( am in the wrong country at
> the moment).
> 
> Really, I asked two questions mixed up together.  The other is how to
> run makeinitrd, or anything else such as lilo or grub-install (or
> whatever the command is) in a chroot, when chrooting cuts you off from
> the /dev and /proc filesystems so that none of these commands will run.

mount proc -t proc /mnt/chroot/proc 

check the debian install manual, there is information on installing
from another unix system and included there is how to install kernels
from the chroot. should be applicable here.

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Re: Linux friendly colour printer?

[Paul Johnson]

Digby Tarvin wrote:

> I'm after thoughts on the current best colour printer to go for
> (or sites I should consult for this information)...
> 
> I don't do a lot of colour printing, so I don't care about speed
> or heavy duty construction.
> It is mainly for CD/DVD labels, and the occasional print of a
> digital photograph. Ability to print direct to a DVD/CD would be
> convenient, but not essential.
> 
> Still quite happy with my old HP 5MP (which has performed flawlessly
> for years) for monochrome printing.
> 
> Main requirements are:
> Works well with Debian/Linux, ideally with good documentation
> and a manufacturer that supports Linux directly, and all features
> accessible from Linux.
> Good print quality
> Plain paper and consumables that don't have too short a shelf
> life.
> 
> Doesn't have to be the cheapest printer on the market, but I am not
> looking for a professional machine designed for heavy use either.
> 
> Any suggestions?

Epson Stylus C86 works great for me.  I couldn't ever get it working on USB,
but I never really considered USB suitable for printers anyway (that's why
we still have printer ports, right?).  I've had better luck with Epson than
HP, since Epson doesn't put the most expensive part of the printer (print
head) on the ink cartridge itself (you just have to clean the print head
occasionally).



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Re: Daemonologists wanted

[Paul Johnson]

David Liontooth wrote:

> Paul Johnson wrote:
> 
>> David Liontooth wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> If I issue
>>> 
>>> /etc/init.d/sensord start
>>> 
>>> to start the sensor daemon, the script seems to run fine, but the daemon
>>> doesn't actually start. On my other machines, it runs as expected. Any
>>> daemonologists out there?
>> 
>> What's the .conf look like?  Any log entries after you try starting
>> sensord?
>
> But you're right - the syslog shows the failure:
> 
> Dec 20 10:36:14 chianti sensord: sensord started
> Dec 20 10:36:14 chianti sensord: Chip: k8temp-pci-00c3
> Dec 20 10:36:14 chianti sensord: Adapter: PCI adapter
> Dec 20 10:36:14 chianti sensord:   Mboard: 31.00
> Dec 20 10:36:14 chianti sensord: Error getting sensor data: k8temp/temp2:
> Can't access procfs/sysfs file
> Dec 20 10:36:14 chianti sensord: sensord failed
> 
> It turns out the solution was to add a couple of ignores to the
> configuration (previous conf below):
> 
> chip "k8temp-*"
> 
>label temp1 "Mboard"
>ignore temp2
>label temp3 "CPU k8"
>ignore temp4
> 
> The error messages are not very helpful to newbies -- now I realize
> that "Can't access procfs/sysfs file" means "there isn't any temp2 sensors
> according to /proc or /sys, so I'm going to fail".

The errors aren't particularly helpful if you don't have an intimate
knowledge of I2C in general, I'm afraid.  I have similar problems
configuring sensord for a new system myself.

> A newbie like myself 
> might think sensors isn't seeing /proc or /sys, or that these file systems
> aren't correctly installed, and so on. In any case, the default behavior
> shouldn't be to fail because some ignore statements are missing!
> 
> Thanks for your help -- that's really all I needed, and hopefully this
> will be useful for someone else.

For posterity, it might be helpful to post what motherboard and chipset
that's for.


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Etherconf gone? What do I configure NICs with?

[Jonathan Wilson]

Hello,

Main question: What should I use to setup network cards in Etch?

Details: For the last year or so I've been using the package "etherconf" to 
set up secondary network cards and whenever I needed to change the initial 
configuration.

Typically I "apt-get install ethconf" and for subsequent changes run 
dpkg-reconfigure etherconf.

I just installed a Etch from an rc-1 netinst ISO and apt cannot find etherconf 
available in the repository.

I assume this means that something else should be used to configure NICs now, 
but what?

Thanks,

JW

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Re: local partition backup with rsync

[Angelo Bertolli]

Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

Hi,

I would like to do a local partition backup with rsync.

It works right with a partition that contains /home:


rsync -av --delete /hda10 /sdb7


But it does not work right with the partition that I boot into:


rsync -av --delete --exclude /home --exclude /usr/local --exclude 
/hda10  / /hdb5



He does it the first time, but the second time, which is supposed to 
be just an update, he copies all files again and runs out of room.


I know you'll hit yourself on the head for this one, but you need to 
exclude /hdb5 too... you're recursively backing up your previous backups.


Angelo


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network inventory

[Tony Heal]

I am looking for a network inventory program that will list hardware and
software components of each computer on hand. I would prefer to have it
integrated with postgresql also.

Any suggestions would be helpful

 

Thanks in advance

 

Tony

New User Information Request

[Laura J. Portscheller]

I am very new to linux.  I have used it to a minimal extent and like it, but 
have no experience in system administration and all the many technical matters 
involved with it.  I want to install linux on my laptop and want to make sure 
that there are no compatibility problems with your product.  I first tried to 
install fedora core 6 and it would not operate properly, even with the attempts 
to resolve the matter by very experienced users.  I wanted to make sure that 
your product will be completely compatible with my computer.  I have a new HP 
dv9000 17 inch widescreen laptop with 2 100GB hard drives, and nvidia gforce 
praphics card, bluetooth, and an AMD processor.  Thanks

Re: ETCH Installation succes :-) WAS: New Debian User

[Magnus Pedersen]

Niels Rasmussen wrote:

Well didn't know what happened :-)

Guess the RAMS didn't emptying itself at first, but today when I
want to solve to "X aborting" thing, the Gnome suddenly appear on the
screen :-D

Oh boy !!

This is what have wanted for so long !

Debian on my own box !!!

The installation was a breeze, actually I just had to hit "Enter" all
the way except when user and passwords had to be typed in and space
when I had to select some choices. All the way the installer did find
the right hardware etc.

For a start I had to write "installgui" at the boot prompt. The
GUI-installer is very nice except for some translation errors US > DA
(grrr).



Hvis der er snadder i oversættelsen så send en bugrepport :-)


/Magnus


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Re: What is the best way to install Samba

[schmity]

I also did the following:

#
Linuxbox:/home/brent# smbpasswd brent
New SMB password:
Retype new SMB password:
Linuxbox:/home/brent# cat /etc/samba/smbpasswd
brent:1000:874EA23DF4AFD3CFC2265B23734E0DAC:153EDE431C871577C60F69CAD6DF1601:[U
]:LCT-45895F8A:
Linuxbox:/home/brent#
Linuxbox:/home/brent# ls -l /etc/samba/smbpasswd
-rw---  1 root root 105 2006-12-20 10:06 /etc/samba/smbpasswd
#


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Re: smooth upgrades

[tom arnall]

On Tuesday 19 December 2006 13:51, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 19, 2006 at 11:33:10AM -0800, tom arnall wrote:
> > On Monday 18 December 2006 11:10, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> > > largely. Are you currently pointed at testing or at etch? If at
> > > testing, you might want to change to etch so you don't get caught out.
> > >
> > > my one etch server has really calmed down on the upgrades in the last
> > > couple weeks. Of course, there's not much on there (mail, imap,
> > > various shares, clamav and a couple others...).
> >
> > Thanks for getting back to me. By 'pointed at Etch', do you mean get rid
> > of the 'testing' addresses and have only 'stable' in 'sources.list'? Hate
> > being a nervous nelly, but it means a lot to me to get a solid os on my
> > machine. I want to be able to promote linux among my friends, but can do
> > this only if I can easily support them.
>
> I suggest you change your source.list to 'etch' which is currently
> synonymous with 'testing'. That way you'll follow etch into
> stable. after 'etch' has migrated to stable, you could change your
> sources.list to point to 'stable' so that you don't follow 'etch' into
> 'oldstable'. I would make that change from 'testing' to 'etch' right
> away so you don't accidently get caught in the beowulf-cluster-fsck
> that will happen in 'testing' after 'etch' moves into stable. Making
> that change right now will NOT affect the system as 'etch' and
> 'testing' are the same thing at this moment.
>
> warning! train platform analogy! warning!
>
> okay, here's how I view the releases. Debian is like a set of
> trains. There are a limited number of platforms for getting on the
> trains. Each platform has a name and they are 'experimental',
> 'unstable', 'testing', 'stable' and 'oldstable' (are there any
> more?). Each train has a name too, though the train doesn't get named
> until its on the track between the unstable and testing
> platforms. currently, there are four named trains: 'woody', which is
> parked at the 'oldstable' platform, 'sarge' which is parked at the
> 'stable' platform, and 'etch' which is parked at the 'testing'
> platform. The fourth one, 'sid' is a special case -- its a train that
> is still being assembled at the 'unstable' platform and is rolled
> piece-meal down the track, added to whatever train is sitting at the
> 'testing' platform, currently 'etch'. So 'etch' is at the 'testing'
> platform getting the final touches put on it before it moves down the
> line to the 'stable' platform pushing 'sarge' and 'woody' down the
> line. unfortunately for 'woody', the line ends just on the other side
> of the 'oldstable' platform and the poor guy will get mothballed and
> left on a siding.
>
> Okay. there are two basic ways to use the debian train. 1) buy a
> ticket for a particular train. you can buy tickets for any of the
> named trains, 'etch', 'sarge', 'woody', etc. When you buy this ticket,
> you board the train and use its tools at whatever platform it is
> currently parked at and you'll ride that train right on down to the
> end of the line. unless you change your ticket (there is no service
> charge for this). 2) rent a seat at one of the platforms 'unstable',
> 'testing', 'stable' etc. you can rent
> a seat at any platform and make use of whatever tools are on the train you
> want while that train is parked at that platform. However, when the
> train moves on to the next platform, you are left behind at the
> station, and have to use the tools from the next train coming down the
> line. Again, you can change your tickets at any time for no fee.
>
> The only caveat to ticket changing is that the train is running up a
> VERY steep hill from 'experimental' to 'oldstable'. In order to get
> from one of the lower platforms like 'unstable' or 'testing' to one of
> the higher platforms like 'stable' or 'oldstable', you have to either
> do a LOT of climbing (this is called downgrading. don't know why as
> its an uphill climb ;-P ) or you have to change to a train ticket and
> catch a ride up there. Realise of course, that the tools available at
> the next train station will then be the same ones as you currently
> use, because you're riding on the train with that set of tools.
>
> warning! application of train analogy! warning!
>
> okay, so you're currently renting a seat at the testing station and
> using the tools on that train, which is called etch. however, you know
> that this train, etch,  is about to pull out of the station. If you like
> the tools on this train, you better hop on it now before it pulls out
> of the station. Otherwise, you'll have to use the tools on the next
> train, called 'lenny', but those tools are still being refined as they
> pull into the station. You'll have to do some hacking while it all
> gets organized and polished up.
>
> end of train analogy. thank you  for participating and have a great trip.
>
> phew.
>
> sorry everyone.
>
> hth
>
> A


and until 'etch' becomes 'stable', d

Re: local partition backup with rsync

[Hugo Vanwoerkom]

Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:

On Wed, Dec 20, 2006 at 11:14:19AM -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

Hi,

I would like to do a local partition backup with rsync.

It works right with a partition that contains /home:


rsync -av --delete /hda10 /sdb7


But it does not work right with the partition that I boot into:


rsync -av --delete --exclude /home --exclude /usr/local --exclude /hda10 
 / /hdb5



He does it the first time, but the second time, which is supposed to be 
just an update, he copies all files again and runs out of room.


Anybody uses rsync to backup the partition that they boot into?



Did you try adding '--exclude /hdb5' in there?



Roberto, that floated through the mind but I did not *act* on it, which 
I now will. Thanks!


Hugo





















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Re: moving /var

[richard]

On Wed, Dec 20, 2006 at 01:41:11PM -0500, Greg Folkert wrote:

> On Wed, 2006-12-20 at 14:36 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > I recently tried to move /var to a new partition.  Booted from some
> > live cd, moved it and edited /etc/fstab to suit.  Broke the machine
> > as it wouldn't boot afterwards (in fact I recollect it booted but with
> > no keyboard.  Anyway it was unusable.) I thought it might be an initrd
> > problem, and had a half-baked memory that chrooting into the root
> > partition and running makeinitrd or somesuch would solve it. But as
> > usual I got errors from nonexistant /dev and /proc filesystems in the
> > chroot and so could not build a new initrd.  So I copied /dev back
> > where it came from and reverted fstab and all was well.
> >
> > I might have been more persistent but had a slow (and expensive) i'net
> > connection so it was easier to give up.
> >
> > What should I have done?
>
> I have done it many times from LiveCD, also from Single user mode. I had
> to turn off some logging and other things even in single user mode.
>
> Effectively you have to make sure you get everything. If you are running
> Ubuntu there are additional items you need to make sure are taken care
> of. (Make sure /var/run and /var/lock are on the root partition for
> tmpfs filesystems)
>
> But like I said, I have done it multiple times... heck even once
> accidentally reformatted the /var filesystem AND deleted all backups
> before the retore, having to recreate it from scratch on the new
> filesystem.
>
> So, what did you do to move it? (list of commands used, would be good)

Hmm, it's a couple of weeks ago now.  I usually use cp -a for things
like this and then rename the directory and make a new one to mount to,
but in this case I think I used mv.  I don't think there are any critical
symlinks. The old /var directory was definitely empty after the move,
because I checked.  Anyway cp -a back again put everything into place
and the system booted as normal afterwards.

The implication of your comments is that you don't think there was any
problem with initrd. In fact, I am sure I have done this before with no
problems.  I was surprised when there was a problem.  I did also move
/usr (to another partition) which was of course trouble-free.  Perhaps I
shall try again when I get back to that box ( am in the wrong country at
the moment).

Really, I asked two questions mixed up together.  The other is how to
run makeinitrd, or anything else such as lilo or grub-install (or
whatever the command is) in a chroot, when chrooting cuts you off from
the /dev and /proc filesystems so that none of these commands will run.

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Re: What is the best way to install Samba

[schmity]

Alright, I have made a simple smb.conf file as follows.

###
[global]
   # Server configuration paramaters
   netbios name = LINUXBOX
   server string = Samba %v on (%L)
   workgroup = SANDSTORM
   encrypt passwords = yes

[data]
   path = /export/samba/data
   comment = Data Drive
   volume = Sample-drive
   guest ok = yes

[test]
   comment = TEsting
   path = /export/samba/test
   read only = no
   guest ok = yes


Also from the command line I did


Linuxbox:/home/brent# smbpasswd brent
New SMB password:
Retype new SMB password:
Linuxbox:/home/brent# cat /etc/samba/smbpasswd
brent:1000:874EA23DF4AFD3CFC2265B23734E0DAC:153EDE431C871577C60F69CAD6DF1601:[U
]:LCT-45895F8A:
Linuxbox:/home/brent#
Linuxbox:/home/brent# ls -l /etc/samba/smbpasswd
-rw---  1 root root 105 2006-12-20 10:06 /etc/samba/smbpasswd
##


and an smbclient -U% -L localhost returns the following:


##
Linuxbox:/home/brent# smbclient -U% -L localhost
Domain=[SANDSTORM] OS=[Unix] Server=[Samba 3.0.14a-Debian]

Sharename   Type  Comment
-     ---
dataDisk  Data Drive
testDisk  TEsting
IPC$IPC   IPC Service (Samba 3.0.14a-Debian on
(linuxbox))
ADMIN$  IPC   IPC Service (Samba 3.0.14a-Debian on
(linuxbox))
lp  Printer   Generic dot-matrix printer entry
Domain=[SANDSTORM] OS=[Unix] Server=[Samba 3.0.14a-Debian]

Server   Comment
----
BLACKBOX Black Computer
LINUXBOX Samba 3.0.14a-Debian

WorkgroupMaster
----
SANDSTORMBLACKBOX
###


I can see LINUXBOX on the XP machine.  When I double click on
"Linuxbox" on the XP machine it prompts me for a username and password.
 I fill in the appropriate username and password hit enter, and it
prompts me again for the username and password except that in username
it has BLACKBOX\brent filled in (Blackbox is the name of the XP machine
and "brent" is the username).


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Re: What is the best way to install Samba

[schmity]

Alright, I have made a simple smb.conf file as follows.

###
[global]
   # Server configuration paramaters
   netbios name = LINUXBOX
   server string = Samba %v on (%L)
   workgroup = SANDSTORM
   encrypt passwords = yes

[data]
   path = /export/samba/data
   comment = Data Drive
   volume = Sample-drive
   guest ok = yes

[test]
   comment = TEsting
   path = /export/samba/test
   read only = no
   guest ok = yes


and an smbclient -U% -L localhost returns the following:

##
Linuxbox:/home/brent# smbclient -U% -L localhost
Domain=[SANDSTORM] OS=[Unix] Server=[Samba 3.0.14a-Debian]

Sharename   Type  Comment
-     ---
dataDisk  Data Drive
testDisk  TEsting
IPC$IPC   IPC Service (Samba 3.0.14a-Debian on
(linuxbox))
ADMIN$  IPC   IPC Service (Samba 3.0.14a-Debian on
(linuxbox))
lp  Printer   Generic dot-matrix printer entry
Domain=[SANDSTORM] OS=[Unix] Server=[Samba 3.0.14a-Debian]

Server   Comment
----
BLACKBOX Black Computer
LINUXBOX Samba 3.0.14a-Debian

WorkgroupMaster
----
SANDSTORMBLACKBOX

###


I can see LINUXBOX on the XP machine.  When I double click on
"Linuxbox" on the XP machine it prompts me for a username and password.
 I fill in the appropriate username and password hit enter, and it
prompts me again for the username and password except that in username
it has BLACKBOX\brent filled in (Blackbox is the name of the XP machine
and "brent" is the username).


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Re: LAN problem with Etch (and konqueror resolved)

[Nigel Henry]

On Monday 11 December 2006 01:00, Nigel Henry wrote:
> On Monday 11 December 2006 00:16, Marko Randjelovic wrote:
> > Nigel Henry wrote:
> > > Sorry for my ignorance. I have the zeroconf package installed. what is
> > > the syntax needed to purge it?
> > >
> > > Nigel
> >
> > It should be
> >
> > apt-get --purge remove zeroconf
>
> Thanks to Marko, and Florian. Purging zeroconf has just reverted
> Gkrellmip's display to 192.168.0.8.
>
> I still have a problem with Konqueror, that can no longer access the
> Internet. Something to do with Konqueror not being able to access the
> gateway. Konsole is ok, and so are Opera, and Firefox. I've probably
> screwed up something when messing with KDE's control centres network
> connections/route.
>
> That can wait until tomorrow. Thanks for your help guys.
>
> Nigel.

I havn't seen any other posts on the list for this problem with Konqueror not 
being able to access the gateway, but this what I found.

After some recent Etch updates the boot up messages said 
that /etc/network/options was deprecated, and to read the README  for 
netbase, which is in /usr/share/doc/netbase/README.Debian. Did this, and 
added the following to /etc/sysctl.conf. See below.

This file is deprecated, and if present should be replaced by values
in /etc/sysctl.conf or equivalent custom scripts.
The relevant sysctl values are:

ip_forward=yes:   net.ipv4.ip_forward = 1
spoofprotect=yes: net.ipv4.conf.default.rp_filter = 1
  net.ipv4.conf.all.rp_filter = 1
syncookies=yes:   net.ipv4.tcp_syncookies = 1

So I did that, and renamed the options file in /etc/network/options.

I admit that trying to resolve the problem that turned out to be a zeroconfig 
one, I'd messed with network settings, but my original user was still able to 
access the Internet with Opera, and Firefox, and no problems getting updates 
via the CLI and apt-get, nor was there any problem using KDE's superuser 
filer manager in webbrowsing mode accessing the Internet. Only Konqueror 
could not access the net.

Someone on the KDE list suggested creating a new user, so I did that, and now 
Konqueror works ok.

thinking about this a bit, and skipping some trial and error stuff I comment 
out the new lines in /etc/sysctl.conf, and rename /etc/network/options 
to /etc/network/options. Now logged into the new user Konqueror cannot access 
the net. so I again rename /etc/network/options 
to /etc/network/options-deprecated, and uncomment the 4 lines 
in /etc/sysctl.conf. Now logging into the new user Konqueror again works ok 
in accessing the Internet.

Still no joy with Konqueror with the original user. 

As a last resort, and skipping some more stuff I tried, I rename .kde while 
logged out from the original user, then log back in to original user which 
creates a new .kde. Icons are all over the place, but Konqueror now accesses 
the Internet ok.

I don't really know what caused the Konqueror problem for the original user, 
but seems to have something to do with moving /etc/network/options entries 
to /etc/sysctl.conf. 

I havn't been on the Debian list long, but has anyone else seen anything like 
this?

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ETCH Installation succes :-) WAS: New Debian User

[Niels Rasmussen]

Well didn't know what happened :-)

Guess the RAMS didn't emptying itself at first, but today when I
want to solve to "X aborting" thing, the Gnome suddenly appear on the
screen :-D

Oh boy !!

This is what have wanted for so long !

Debian on my own box !!!

The installation was a breeze, actually I just had to hit "Enter" all
the way except when user and passwords had to be typed in and space
when I had to select some choices. All the way the installer did find
the right hardware etc.

For a start I had to write "installgui" at the boot prompt. The
GUI-installer is very nice except for some translation errors US > DA
(grrr).

At the end of the install were I was told to hit enter for ejecting the
CD, I had to hit it 3-4 times before it finally pushed out the CD and
the reboot could start.

When I boot in to the freshly buildt debian it couldn't find the screen.
I was prepared for this though because the ATI graphic cards are known
to cause some troubles.

John C here at this list pointed out to me that I should replace "ati"
with "radeon" in my xorg.config.
It worked perfectly!!

When rebooting the X server aborted "X: user not authorized to run the
X server, aborting.
giving up."

This was last night, to day when I wanted to solve this issue the Gnome
suddenly came up at my screen.

*Stable*
*Nice*
*Uncluttered*

Time for testing:
Fire up Epiphany...Im on the internet !!

Via synaptic-asking for CD-yes-Installing Claws-email (which I have
read a lot good things about). setting up my email.
YES mail 

Inserting my USB-stick.contact-yes-copying some stuff to ~/..cool!

Inserting my external harddrivecontact-yes-copying some music to
~/ !!

Fire up Ryhtmbox. oh dear.Good old John Denver never
sounded better !

My first experience with debian is a success everything works right out
of the box!!!
And now it's time to catch up with lost linux knowledge (shouldn't be
so hard, got this list :-)

To the debian crowd, if you see this - Thumbs up!!

Thanks!

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Re: New Debian user

[Niels Rasmussen]

On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 20:53:35 +
Chris Lale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Niels Rasmussen wrote:
> >
> > [...]
> > What is the syntax of the sudoers file ?? Or is there a smarter
> > linux command that'll do the trick ? (my linux capabilities has got
> > quite rusty over the years :-)
> > [...]
> >
> >
> 
> Look at section 7 of this article
> http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/system/checkinstall.html.en#SEC-CONFIGURE-SUDO.
> The example explains the "sudoers" file syntax in simple terms.
> 
Thanks a lot !

I'll dive in to it right away.

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Re: smooth upgrades

[Andrew Sackville-West]

On Wed, Dec 20, 2006 at 02:29:08PM -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 19, 2006 at 01:51:57PM -0800, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> 
> [...]
> > warning! train platform analogy! warning!
> >
> > okay, here's how I view the releases. Debian is like a set of
> > trains. There are a limited number of platforms for getting on the
> > trains. Each platform has a name and they are 'experimental',
> > 'unstable', 'testing', 'stable' and 'oldstable' (are there any
> > more?). Each train has a name too, though the train doesn't get named
> > until its on the track between the unstable and testing
> [...]
> 
> Hehehe.  Thank you, Andrew.  Smooth analogy.
> 
> Actually, I think it should be on the debian site.

I don't think I originated it. I know I've expanded it a bit, but it
is surely not my original work. Its in the archives at least a couple
times too... 

glad you enjoyed it.

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[Chris Lale]

Niels Rasmussen wrote:


[...]
What is the syntax of the sudoers file ?? Or is there a smarter linux
command that'll do the trick ? (my linux capabilities has got quite
rusty over the years :-)
[...]




Look at section 7 of this article
http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/system/checkinstall.html.en#SEC-CONFIGURE-SUDO.
The example explains the "sudoers" file syntax in simple terms.

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Re: cleanup after dist-upgrade

[Greg Folkert]

For keeping it very quick a top post:

dpkg --purge $(dpkg -l | grep ^rc | cut -f3 -d\  )

That will take care of all the rc packages.

On Tue, 2006-12-19 at 10:29 +0200, Hans du Plooy wrote:
> OK, I got all the problems sorted out after doing dist-upgrade on a
> live production server :-)
> 
> What's the best way to clean this up?  By the looks of it I now have
> two versions of mysql installed.  mysql -V does give me the 5.0.30
> though:
> 
> # dpkg -l | grep mysql
> rc  courier-authmysql  0.47-4sarge5
> Courier Mail Server - MySQL authentication
> ii  libdbd-mysql-perl  3.0008-1A
> Perl5 database interface to the MySQL data
> ii  libmysqlclient10   3.23.56-3
> LGPL-licensed client library for MySQL datab
> ii  libmysqlclient12   4.0.24-10sarge2
> mysql database client library
> ii  libmysqlclient14   4.1.11a-4sarge7
> mysql database client library
> ii  libmysqlclient15off5.0.30-1
> mysql database client library
> ii  libpam-mysql   0.6.2-1 PAM
> module allowing authentication from a My
> ii  mysql-client-5.0   5.0.30-1
> mysql database client binaries
> ii  mysql-common   5.0.30-1
> mysql database common files (e.g. /etc/mysql
> rc  mysql-common-4.1   4.1.11a-4sarge7
> mysql database common files (e.g. /etc/mysql
> rc  mysql-server   4.0.24-10sarge2
> mysql database server binaries
> ii  mysql-server-4.1   5.0.30-1
> mysql database server (transitional package)
> ii  mysql-server-5.0   5.0.30-1
> mysql database server binaries
> rc  php4-mysql 4.3.10-18
> MySQL module for php4
> ii  php5-mysql 5.2.0-7
> MySQL module for php5
> ii  postfix-mysql  2.3.4-3
> MYSQL map support for Postfix

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Re: Linux friendly colour printer?

[Greg Folkert]

Sorry, I sent this to Digby directly and NOT to the list.

On Wed, 2006-12-20 at 17:25 +, Digby Tarvin wrote:
> I'm after thoughts on the current best colour printer to go for
> (or sites I should consult for this information)...
> 
> I don't do a lot of colour printing, so I don't care about speed
> or heavy duty construction.
> It is mainly for CD/DVD labels, and the occasional print of a
> digital photograph. Ability to print direct to a DVD/CD would be
> convenient, but not essential.
> 
> Still quite happy with my old HP 5MP (which has performed flawlessly
> for years) for monochrome printing.
> 
> Main requirements are:
>   Works well with Debian/Linux, ideally with good documentation
>and a manufacturer that supports Linux directly, and all features
>accessible from Linux.
>   Good print quality
>   Plain paper and consumables that don't have too short a shelf
>life.
> 
> Doesn't have to be the cheapest printer on the market, but I am not
> looking for a professional machine designed for heavy use either.
> 
> Any suggestions?

I have an Epson RX600 and an Epson R300. They use 6 cartridges for
printing. Brilliant colors. The R300 prints directly on CDs and DVDs.

Now it seems these are a bit old for Epson.

The R340:
http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/consumer/consDetail.jsp?oid=58654762

The R340 is 100% the same as the R300 as far as printing is concerned.
So for printing only... get that or the R220 (without the media reader)

The RX620:
http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/consumer/consDetail.jsp?oid=54782584

The RX620 dunnah print on the CDs or DVDs, but does have a scanner that
works quite wel with Linux (Just use the RX600 driver, or if updated the
RX620)

Just FYI, since I run Debian Sid, all this stuff just works now. For a
while I had to fight the lib-usb stuff and the epkowa vs epson driver
issues. But things have really settled down now. I am very happy with my
Epson printers. The scanner works flawlessly now too... on the RX600
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Re: Linux friendly colour printer?

[Ron Johnson]

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On 12/20/06 13:13, Ryan Castleberry wrote:
> Ron Johnson wrote:
>>
>> On 12/20/06 11:25, Digby Tarvin wrote:
>>   
[snip]
>>
>> I love my Dell 3100cn.  It's a big network *laser* printer that cost
>> about $350.
>>
>>   
> I second the Dell 3100cn. Not completely photograph quality, but pretty
> darn good. Plus it's laser so the ink doesn't dry out out as it does
> here in Colorado...

That(*) is the big (only?) reason why I chose a laser printer.

* Which, of course, means that you've got to then buy more expensive
ink cartridges.

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whites are superior to blacks, and that those with brown skins
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Printer: Epson!

[Eeltje]

Since some time I use an Epson Stylus C46. The support in Linux is excellent!

I think most Epson printers work fine in Linux. You should consult:

http://www.freestandards.org/en/OpenPrinting/Database/DatabaseIntro

to check whether a printer is fully supported in Linux.

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Re: Linux friendly colour printer?

[Ryan Castleberry]

Ron Johnson wrote:

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On 12/20/06 11:25, Digby Tarvin wrote:
  

I'm after thoughts on the current best colour printer to go for
(or sites I should consult for this information)...

I don't do a lot of colour printing, so I don't care about speed
or heavy duty construction.
It is mainly for CD/DVD labels, and the occasional print of a
digital photograph. Ability to print direct to a DVD/CD would be
convenient, but not essential.

Still quite happy with my old HP 5MP (which has performed flawlessly
for years) for monochrome printing.

Main requirements are:
Works well with Debian/Linux, ideally with good documentation
 and a manufacturer that supports Linux directly, and all features
 accessible from Linux.
Good print quality
Plain paper and consumables that don't have too short a shelf
 life.

Doesn't have to be the cheapest printer on the market, but I am not
looking for a professional machine designed for heavy use either.

Any suggestions?



I love my Dell 3100cn.  It's a big network *laser* printer that cost
about $350.

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I second the Dell 3100cn. Not completely photograph quality, but pretty 
darn good. Plus it's laser so the ink doesn't dry out out as it does 
here in Colorado...


-Ryan

Re: Problems with phpbb and mysql vi dselect

[Bill Warren]

Bill Warren wrote:

>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Angelo Bertolli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Mon 12/18/2006 10:20 PM
> To: Bill Warren
> Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: Problems with phpbb and mysql vi dselect
>
> Bill Warren wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > I have dselected phpbb2 and mysql. The database is done and works.
> > When I go to http://mywebsite.com/phpbb the web page I get:
> >
> > The database module for the database you are using, MySQL, is not
> > available. Please (re)install the php4-mysql package or if it's
> > already installed, add extension=mysql.so to the relevant
> > /etc/php//php.ini and restart the webserver if appropriate.
> >
> > I went to /etc/php4/apache/php.ini and removed the uncommented the
> > section where it talks about Dynamic Extensions and
> > extension=mysql.so. Then I restarted apache. Apache restarts with the
> > following error:
> >
> > Starting web server: apache-perlPHP Warning: Unknown(): Invalid
> > library (maybe not a PHP library) 'mysql.so' in Unknown on line 0
> >
> > In /etc/php4/apache/php.ini it has a place for the directory and it is
> > correct. So, I don't know why it does not like it.
> >
> > Any ideas?
> >
>
> Well it said to make sure you had php4-mysql installed... do you have it
> installed?
>
> dpkg -l | fgrep mysql
>
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> Yep, when I run that command I get:
>
> marge:/# dpkg -l | fgrep mysql
> ii  libdbd-mysql-p 2.9006-1   A Perl5 database interface to the
> MySQL data
> ii  libmysqlclient 4.0.24-10sarge mysql database client library
> ii  mysql-client   4.0.24-10sarge mysql database client binaries
> ii  mysql-common   4.0.24-10sarge mysql database common files (e.g.
> /etc/mysql
> rc  mysql-common-4 4.1.11a-4sarge mysql database common files (e.g.
> /etc/mysql
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Anybody else have an idea what to check next?

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Re: Linux friendly colour printer?

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On 12/20/06 11:25, Digby Tarvin wrote:
> I'm after thoughts on the current best colour printer to go for
> (or sites I should consult for this information)...
> 
> I don't do a lot of colour printing, so I don't care about speed
> or heavy duty construction.
> It is mainly for CD/DVD labels, and the occasional print of a
> digital photograph. Ability to print direct to a DVD/CD would be
> convenient, but not essential.
> 
> Still quite happy with my old HP 5MP (which has performed flawlessly
> for years) for monochrome printing.
> 
> Main requirements are:
>   Works well with Debian/Linux, ideally with good documentation
>and a manufacturer that supports Linux directly, and all features
>accessible from Linux.
>   Good print quality
>   Plain paper and consumables that don't have too short a shelf
>life.
> 
> Doesn't have to be the cheapest printer on the market, but I am not
> looking for a professional machine designed for heavy use either.
> 
> Any suggestions?

I love my Dell 3100cn.  It's a big network *laser* printer that cost
about $350.

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However, that "common sense" is obviously wrong.
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Re: Daemonologists wanted

[David Liontooth]

Paul Johnson wrote:

> David Liontooth wrote:
> 
>> 
>> If I issue
>> 
>> /etc/init.d/sensord start
>> 
>> to start the sensor daemon, the script seems to run fine, but the daemon
>> doesn't actually start. On my other machines, it runs as expected. Any
>> daemonologists out there?
> 
> What's the .conf look like?  Any log entries after you try starting
> sensord?

Hi Paul,

Thanks! I had this working on 2.8.18.3, and it failed after moving to a
kernel.org 2.6.19.1 kernel -- 

The receipt suggests the daemon starts:

# /etc/init.d/sensord start
Starting sensor daemon: sensord.

But you're right - the syslog shows the failure:

Dec 20 10:36:14 chianti sensord: sensord started
Dec 20 10:36:14 chianti sensord: Chip: k8temp-pci-00c3
Dec 20 10:36:14 chianti sensord: Adapter: PCI adapter
Dec 20 10:36:14 chianti sensord:   Mboard: 31.00
Dec 20 10:36:14 chianti sensord: Error getting sensor data: k8temp/temp2:
Can't access procfs/sysfs file
Dec 20 10:36:14 chianti sensord: sensord failed

It turns out the solution was to add a couple of ignores to the
configuration (previous conf below):

chip "k8temp-*"

   label temp1 "Mboard"
   ignore temp2
   label temp3 "CPU k8"
   ignore temp4

The error messages are not very helpful to newbies -- now I realize
that "Can't access procfs/sysfs file" means "there isn't any temp2 sensors
according to /proc or /sys, so I'm going to fail". A newbie like myself
might think sensors isn't seeing /proc or /sys, or that these file systems
aren't correctly installed, and so on. In any case, the default behavior
shouldn't be to fail because some ignore statements are missing!

Thanks for your help -- that's really all I needed, and hopefully this will
be useful for someone else.

Dave

 Here begins the real configuration file

chip "it87-*" "it8712-*"

# The values below have been tested on Gigabyte K8NSC-939 and K8NS Ultra-939

# Voltage monitors as advised in the It8705 data sheet
label in0 "VCore 1"
label in1 "VCore 2"
label in2 "+3.3V"
label in3 "+5V"
label in4 "+12V"
label in5 "-12V"
label in6 "-5V"
label in7 "Stdby"

# Conversions
compute in3 ((10/10)+1)*@ ,  @/((10/10)+1)
compute in4 ((30/10) +1)*@  , @/((30/10) +1)
compute in5 (7.67 * @) - 27.36  ,  (@ + 27.36) / 7.67
compute in6 (4.33 * @) - 13.64  ,  (@ + 13.64) / 4.33
compute in7 ((6.8/10)+1)*@ ,  @/((6.8/10)+1)

# Temperature
label temp1   "M/B Temp"
set   temp1_over  40
set   temp1_low   15
label temp2   "CPU Temp"
set   temp2_over  45
set   temp2_low   15
ignore temp3

# Fans
   set fan1_min 2500
# Fan2 is currently the power supply fan -- not sure how fast it should run
   set fan2_min 1000
   ignore fan3


chip "k8temp-*"

   label temp1 "Mboard"
   label temp3 "CPU k8"




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Re: moving /var

[Greg Folkert]

On Wed, 2006-12-20 at 14:36 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I recently tried to move /var to a new partition.  Booted from some
> live cd, moved it and edited /etc/fstab to suit.  Broke the machine
> as it wouldn't boot afterwards (in fact I recollect it booted but with
> no keyboard.  Anyway it was unusable.) I thought it might be an initrd
> problem, and had a half-baked memory that chrooting into the root
> partition and running makeinitrd or somesuch would solve it. But as
> usual I got errors from nonexistant /dev and /proc filesystems in the
> chroot and so could not build a new initrd.  So I copied /dev back
> where it came from and reverted fstab and all was well.
> 
> I might have been more persistent but had a slow (and expensive) i'net
> connection so it was easier to give up.
> 
> What should I have done?

I have done it many times from LiveCD, also from Single user mode. I had
to turn off some logging and other things even in single user mode.

Effectively you have to make sure you get everything. If you are running
Ubuntu there are additional items you need to make sure are taken care
of. (Make sure /var/run and /var/lock are on the root partition for
tmpfs filesystems)

But like I said, I have done it multiple times... heck even once
accidentally reformatted the /var filesystem AND deleted all backups
before the retore, having to recreate it from scratch on the new
filesystem.

So, what did you do to move it? (list of commands used, would be good)
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re: apt-cache bin files getting corrupted

[Jude DaShiell]

Check /etc/apt/sources.list on both machines.  If you are using the 
uchicago mirrors for deb and deb-src, that's why this is happening.  You 
want to switch to another set of mirrors since uchicago seems to have got 
itself corrupted.  For a little while I had this problem too but cleared 
it up by switching to another set of mirrors and running apt-get update.




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Re: Linux friendly colour printer?

[Roberto C. Sanchez]

On Wed, Dec 20, 2006 at 05:25:13PM +, Digby Tarvin wrote:
> I'm after thoughts on the current best colour printer to go for
> (or sites I should consult for this information)...
> 
> I don't do a lot of colour printing, so I don't care about speed
> or heavy duty construction.
> It is mainly for CD/DVD labels, and the occasional print of a
> digital photograph. Ability to print direct to a DVD/CD would be
> convenient, but not essential.
> 
I am very happy with my Samsung CLP-550n.  Though, they have been
discontinued and I am not certain which the "upgraded" replacement model
is.  But if you can get your hands on one for under $500, they are well
worth it.

Regards,

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rtpn> I recently tried to move /var to a new partition.  Booted from some
rtpn> What should I have done?

are you moving it because root is getting full? i've always moved 
/usr without problem - it's larger, anyhow.

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Re: local partition backup with rsync

[Roberto C. Sanchez]

On Wed, Dec 20, 2006 at 11:14:19AM -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I would like to do a local partition backup with rsync.
> 
> It works right with a partition that contains /home:
> 
> 
> rsync -av --delete /hda10 /sdb7
> 
> 
> But it does not work right with the partition that I boot into:
> 
> 
> rsync -av --delete --exclude /home --exclude /usr/local --exclude /hda10 
>  / /hdb5
> 
> 
> He does it the first time, but the second time, which is supposed to be 
> just an update, he copies all files again and runs out of room.
> 
> Anybody uses rsync to backup the partition that they boot into?
> 

Did you try adding '--exclude /hdb5' in there?

Regards,

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Re: Debian as a Web server

[Roberto C. Sanchez]

On Wed, Dec 20, 2006 at 05:39:32PM +0100, Michelle Konzack wrote:
> 
> Updating of RedHat/Fedora machines are the HELL.
> This is WHY I am dedicated "Debian GNU/Linux Consultant".
> 
Actually, if you are fortunate enough to have a homogeneous environment
(or mostly so), Red Hat can be handled very well with systemimager (as
can any other distro, for that matter).  I say this as someone who is
forced to use RedHat for certain things at work (custom hardware with
custom drivers and software that are only supported on RedHat), but
uses Debian whenever else possible.

Regards,

-Roberto

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Re: Xen and X-Servers

[Roberto C. Sanchez]

On Wed, Dec 20, 2006 at 05:39:18PM +0100, Michelle Konzack wrote:
> 
> Now I have created scripts, which starts on 4 independant X-Servers
> from the 4 Chroots on tty9 (Sid) to tty12 (Woody)
> 
> Now I do not realy like to use chroots and have read that there is
> an ongoing development, which permit Xen to start several independant
> X-Servers...
> 
> Can anyone tell me more about it?
> 
I would think that VNC would be a better solution.  Unless you are doing
any 3D apps, that should work and you end up with all your systems "in
view" at the same time.

Regards,

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RE: Linux friendly colour printer?

[Michael Fothergill]

From: Digby Tarvin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: Digby Tarvin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Linux friendly colour printer?
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 17:25:13 +

I'm after thoughts on the current best colour printer to go for
(or sites I should consult for this information)...

I don't do a lot of colour printing, so I don't care about speed
or heavy duty construction.
It is mainly for CD/DVD labels, and the occasional print of a
digital photograph. Ability to print direct to a DVD/CD would be
convenient, but not essential.

Still quite happy with my old HP 5MP (which has performed flawlessly
for years) for monochrome printing.

Main requirements are:
Works well with Debian/Linux, ideally with good documentation
 and a manufacturer that supports Linux directly, and all features
 accessible from Linux.


You could try an Epson D88.  Gutenprint supports OK but Seiko/Epson have a 
linux driver on their web site I downloaded.  I couldn't figure out how to 
install it under Debian and include with the other drivers but it does exist 
and smarter people than me could advise you on how to do it on this user 
list.


I think Samsung also have Linux drivers.

Regards,

Michael Fothergill





Good print quality
Plain paper and consumables that don't have too short a shelf
 life.

Doesn't have to be the cheapest printer on the market, but I am not
looking for a professional machine designed for heavy use either.

Any suggestions?

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Linux friendly colour printer?

[Digby Tarvin]

I'm after thoughts on the current best colour printer to go for
(or sites I should consult for this information)...

I don't do a lot of colour printing, so I don't care about speed
or heavy duty construction.
It is mainly for CD/DVD labels, and the occasional print of a
digital photograph. Ability to print direct to a DVD/CD would be
convenient, but not essential.

Still quite happy with my old HP 5MP (which has performed flawlessly
for years) for monochrome printing.

Main requirements are:
Works well with Debian/Linux, ideally with good documentation
 and a manufacturer that supports Linux directly, and all features
 accessible from Linux.
Good print quality
Plain paper and consumables that don't have too short a shelf
 life.

Doesn't have to be the cheapest printer on the market, but I am not
looking for a professional machine designed for heavy use either.

Any suggestions?

Regards,
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local partition backup with rsync

[Hugo Vanwoerkom]

Hi,

I would like to do a local partition backup with rsync.

It works right with a partition that contains /home:


rsync -av --delete /hda10 /sdb7


But it does not work right with the partition that I boot into:


rsync -av --delete --exclude /home --exclude /usr/local --exclude /hda10 
 / /hdb5



He does it the first time, but the second time, which is supposed to be 
just an update, he copies all files again and runs out of room.


Anybody uses rsync to backup the partition that they boot into?

Hugo


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Re: BIOS upgrade

[Ron Johnson]

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On 12/20/06 10:38, Michelle Konzack wrote:
> Am 2006-12-02 16:14:58, schrieb Douglas Tutty:
>> I've only done it once and that was on my new Asus M2N-SLI that has a
>> bios utility built right in to allow you to save the bios and update a
>> new one.  No dos required at all, just the bios image on a floppy or USB
>> stick (or on a MS partition on a hard drive).
>>
>> However, for my friend Justin Case, I still have dos 6.3.  I used dd to
>> create floppy images and can make them whenever I need to.
>> Unfortunatly, since 6.3 isn't public domain, I can't email it to you.
>>
>> When _does_ the licence on things like an old dos floppy expire or is it
>> like Shakespear, 100 years after IBM (its IBM dos) dies?
> 
> There was already a juridical discusion about WfW 3.11 and Win95 on the
> Internet andm according to the US Law, the rights for software expires
> if THE manufacturer stop selling it and does not more do support for it
> (this excludes documentations, e.g. the M$ Knowledgebase)
> 
> Which meanm you can Distribute all versions of MS-Dos and Windows up to
> Win95 freely.

*Absolutely* *NOT*.

http://sciencefictionobserver.blogspot.com/2006/12/usa-legalizes-abandonware.html

http://research.yale.edu/lawmeme/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1267

More importantly, copyright law still lies behind all of
these exemptions. What this means is that you can no longer
be sued under the DMCA for circumventing the copy protection
on your own 5-1/4" disk or Super Famicon game cartridge in
order to transfer the data to your computer--but copyright
law probably still prohibits you from distributing that file
to other people.

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Re: DVDs - err what gives?

[Baz]

On 12/20/06, Michelle Konzack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Am 2006-12-12 21:41:11, schrieb Baz:

> http://www.debian-multimedia.org etch/main Packages
> http://www.debian-multimedia.org sid/main Packages
> http://www.debian-multimedia.org sid/main

You should use ONLY

   deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org etch main
OR
   deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org sid  main

AND NOT ALL TWO.

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Thanks Michelle.  Another person urged that as well - and I removed sid.

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Re: strange processor (slow on AC, normal on battery)

[Sven Arvidsson]

On Wed, 2006-12-20 at 16:08 +0100, strawks wrote:
> I have an Asus A6VA laptop (Intel Centrino, 1.8GHz Pentium-M).
> 
> On Linux 2.6.18-3, when running on battery, the system works fine. But
> when I plug the AC adapter, the system is very slow, CPU frequency stays
> often below 40MHz. Running the following commands, CPU frequency goes up
> to 1.8GHz after ~0.5 seconde and the system runs fine :
> nice -20 bash -c "for((;;)); do echo -n; done"
> 
> Removing the processor module (rmmod processor) solve this issue but of
> course I have no more control over CPU frequency.
> Inserting the module with max_cstate=1 also solves this issue, and I can
> change CPU frequency with cpufreq-set.
> 
> I have installed the same kernel on 3 (one of which is a Medion with
> Centrino) other laptops and 2 desktop computers without encounting this
> behaviour.
> 
> This problem is present since the first 2.6.17 stock kernel.
> 
> I'm currently staying with the stock 2.6.16-2 kernel since this is the
> last working kernel on my laptop.
> 
> Does anyone have seen the same behaviour on another laptop or desktop?
> 
> 
> Googling around didn't get me anything.
> 
> Any hint would be appreciated.

Maybe a bug in the cpu frequency governor? There was a long discussion
on debian-devel in the beginning of this month about the difference
between the ondemand and the conservative governor.

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Re: [OT] CVS vs. SVN

[Max Hyre]

   Dear Angelo & Dave:

Angelo Bertolli wrote:
> David Christensen wrote:
>> there was an SVN "feature" whereby SVN applied to same version number
>> to all files

Really, truly it /is/ a feature.  It's one of the driving forces behind
writing SVN.

>> Can SVN deal with the various line endings automatically like CVS?
> I just tested this on Linux with a TXT file that was created on
> Windows.  On Linux I got a file with CRLF line terminators.

   SVN's charter is ``what goes in comes out''.  However, it has a
`property' to handle EOL changes:  svn:eol-style.  Set to `native' it
Does The Right Thing, but Subversion leaves the choice up to you.
There's probably a way to default to native EOL, but I've never cared,
since I'm purely a Unixish operator.  Take a look at

http://svnbook.red-bean.com/nightly/en/svn.advanced.props.html#svn.advanced.props.special.eol-style

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Re: Debian as a Web server

[Michelle Konzack]

Am 2006-12-13 09:28:52, schrieb Ken Hu:
> Our company choose RedHat(before) and CentOS(now) as our main web server
> just because the availability of the hardware drivers.
> 
> Usually we use IBM's PC servers with hardware raid and we can  only get
> the driver of the raid controller card for RHEL .

I have a bunch of IBM servers and I had no problems installing
Sarge on it using Linux 2.4.24 and not 2.4.32.

Which controler have problems with drivers under Debian?

> If anyone can shed some light on me to let me know how to use the driver
> for RHEL to install debian on such kind of hardware,  I indeed want to
> give debian a try.

Do you have the sources for the drivers?
If yes, you can compile it for Debian

Maybe you should contact 
since there are some profis on it.

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Re: DVDs - err what gives?

[Michelle Konzack]

Am 2006-12-12 21:41:11, schrieb Baz:

> http://www.debian-multimedia.org etch/main Packages
> http://www.debian-multimedia.org sid/main Packages
> http://www.debian-multimedia.org sid/main

You should use ONLY

deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org etch main
OR
deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org sid  main

AND NOT ALL TWO.

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Re: Debian as a Web server

[Michelle Konzack]

Am 2006-12-12 23:38:35, schrieb Justin Hartman:
> Forgive me if I am posting this to the wrong list but I am not sure
> where this kind of a email would be posted to. That said, I am
> interested to find out people's perspective on running Debian stable
> as a web server in a production environment.
> 
> I have noticed that Red Hat, Suse, CentOS, Fedora, etc. appear to
> dominate the web server market as the backend powering most production
> servers and I'm wondering why Debian doesn't feature?

Where do you have read this?

Those are commercial Distributions which push millions of Dollars into
publicity, while Debian if 100% community driven and non-commercial

I run around 160 Servers and 23 Workstations in my own Enterprise with
Debian only (no other OS)...  and I have to maintain 2800 customers
Servers and Workstations.  --  All running Debian.

No need for any commercial OS/Distribution.

> I own two dedicated web servers and they run Red Hat and CentOS but
> what makes them different to Debian? I have done a lot of reading and
> research on Debian and my impression of, particularly stable is that
> it is one of the most reliable, stable GNU/Linux systems available out
> there.

Updating of RedHat/Fedora machines are the HELL.
This is WHY I am dedicated "Debian GNU/Linux Consultant".

I have tried to make services on RedHat and SuSe machines
but giving up.

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Re: ./configure - file not found problem

[Michelle Konzack]

Am 2006-12-09 20:26:03, schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> Hi,
> 
> Not a Newbie but after trying to find which package contains the 'configure' 
> script for almost 1 hr   { expecting it to just be there anyway }.

It is in the source package you have downloaded.

Change into the root of this source and execute:./configure

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Xen and X-Servers

[Michelle Konzack]

Hello Xen Geeks,

I have a Devel-Station where I have 5 installations:

/dev/sda1   Mastersystem
/dev/sdb1   Unstable  (Sid)
/dev/sdc1   Testing   (Etch)
/dev/sdd1   Stable(Sarge)
/dev/sde1   OldStable (Woody)

/dev/sdf1   /usr/src

Now I have created scripts, which starts on 4 independant X-Servers
from the 4 Chroots on tty9 (Sid) to tty12 (Woody)

Now I do not realy like to use chroots and have read that there is
an ongoing development, which permit Xen to start several independant
X-Servers...

Can anyone tell me more about it?

Note:   I do not want to buy the Expensive VMWare,
since I do only Linux-Sevelopment

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Re: using kmail with procmail

[Michelle Konzack]

Am 2006-12-09 18:07:15, schrieb Micha Feigin:
> That is what I'm afraid of at the moment, the help file implies that I need an
> account for each procmail spool, which sounds rather against the whole idea of
> procmail and fetchmail. I was wondering if there is a way around that.

First:  apt-get install courier-imap
Second: Move your Mails to the Maildir ~/Maildir
Third:  Setup fetchmail and procmail
Fourth: Point kMail to your IMAP server

Note:   The Debian-Version of courier is configured to work from scratch

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Re: Crontab Problem

[Michelle Konzack]

Am 2006-12-07 22:34:06, schrieb Grok Mogger:
> I tried doing something like this in the system wide crontab 
> (/etc/crontab) and I was disappointed to find that it didn't 
> work.  It seems like the job just never ran at all.  Can anyone 
> tell me what might have happened?
> 
> (This is of course supposed to be on one line)
> 
> 00 22 * * * root nice /some/place/myscript.sh 1> 
> /other/place/logs/`date +%F`.output 2> /other/place/logs/`date 
^^ ^
> +%F`.errors
 ^
 This do not work in crontabs

You must put your EXEC string in a script file end then execute it.

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Re: Are lilo and grub compatible?

[Michelle Konzack]

Am 2006-12-07 16:48:43, schrieb Russell L. Harris:
> This is curious, because the Etch installer installs GRUB, not LILO.
> LILO is deprecated, if not obsolete.  Even the Sarge installer
> installed GRUB by default.  

LILO is not deprecated and can not be since GRUB does not
work on all configurations AND, -- LILO is more proven.

It works since 8 years without any problems while grub is
failing too much.

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Re: Bash script question

[Michelle Konzack]

Am 2006-12-07 15:20:26, schrieb H.S.:
> Stephen R Laniel wrote:

> >find directoryName -mtime +X -print0 |xargs -0 rm '{}'

This can handel daily files for unlimited years

> $> find directoryName -mtime +X -exec rm -f  '{}' \;

This can handel only files from the last 15 years  :-P

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Re: Can bot use Fn+F7 to switch LCD/CRT on Thinkpad X60s

[Michelle Konzack]

Am 2006-12-05 12:52:19, schrieb gulfstream:
> I have use ibm_acpi module in my kernel(2.6.18), and I can use Fn+F4 to
> suspend to RAM and Fn+F12 to suspend to disk. But the system do not respond
> to Fn+F7, so I can not switch the LCD and external CRT. Moreover, when I run
> "echo video_switch > /proc/acpi/ibm/video" in the terminal, no any respond.
> How to solve this matter?
> 
> My laptop is Thinkpad X60s with Intel 945GM graphics chipsets.

My TP570  :-)  does not need the ibm_acpi and I
can switch between LCD and CRT.  It s reay cool.

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Re: Loading /tmp/kmap/blankmap

[Michelle Konzack]

Am 2006-12-05 01:37:50, schrieb Pigeon:

> Anyone here seen this?

Do you have tried:

cd / && grep --recursive "kmap/blankmap" * 2>/dev/null

And wait some time...

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Re: Debian Logo

[Michelle Konzack]

Am 2006-12-02 18:56:53, schrieb j Mak:
> Hi,
> 
> I am not able to find a debian logo with a transparent background.
> Could anyone point me to a link where I can download one?

On the Debian Website you will find the Debian Swirl as XCF file
and if you open it in "The Gimp" you can switch off the Background.

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Re: BIOS upgrade

[Michelle Konzack]

Am 2006-12-03 08:32:18, schrieb John Hasler:
> Douglas Tutty wrote:
> > When _does_ the licence on things like an old dos floppy expire
> 
> In the US, 95 years from date of first publication or 120 years from date
> of creation: whichever comes first.

But only, if the Software is official supported by the manufacturer
and NOT ORPHANED like MS-Dos <=6.22, Win 3.1, WfW 3.11 and Win 95.

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Re: BIOS upgrade

[Michelle Konzack]

Am 2006-12-02 16:14:58, schrieb Douglas Tutty:
> I've only done it once and that was on my new Asus M2N-SLI that has a
> bios utility built right in to allow you to save the bios and update a
> new one.  No dos required at all, just the bios image on a floppy or USB
> stick (or on a MS partition on a hard drive).
> 
> However, for my friend Justin Case, I still have dos 6.3.  I used dd to
> create floppy images and can make them whenever I need to.
> Unfortunatly, since 6.3 isn't public domain, I can't email it to you.
> 
> When _does_ the licence on things like an old dos floppy expire or is it
> like Shakespear, 100 years after IBM (its IBM dos) dies?

There was already a juridical discusion about WfW 3.11 and Win95 on the
Internet andm according to the US Law, the rights for software expires
if THE manufacturer stop selling it and does not more do support for it
(this excludes documentations, e.g. the M$ Knowledgebase)

Which meanm you can Distribute all versions of MS-Dos and Windows up to
Win95 freely.

Thanks, Greetings and nice Day
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Re: Etch status..?

[Michelle Konzack]

Hello Steef and *,

Am 2006-12-06 20:03:12, schrieb steef:
> thanks michelle. your answer makes things much clearer. i understand 
> your remarks better now.

The problem is:

HOW can I install Debian ON SUCH MACHINES in the future?

The machines are 333 to 450 MHz and I can not say, they are outdated.
Oh, - before I forget, the -486 do not boot too.

It is realy annoying to create for such machines my own DI.

Note: I have gotten over 2000 Mainboards including CPU and 512 MB
  of memory for Free and like to use it in older machines (P1),
  since the Mainboards are AT and not ATX which will save many
  peoples very much money.

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Re: snmpwalk to remote address gives timeout

[Bart]

Fabrice LORRAIN wrote:
> Bart wrote:
> > Fabrice LORRAIN wrote:
> >> Bart wrote:
> >>> Fabrice LORRAIN schreef:
> >>>
> >> ...
> > However if I run "snmpwalk -v 1 -c public 192.168.1.36 system" on the
> > stable box, with 192.168.1.36 the IP address of the testing box, i get:
> > Timeout: No Response from 192.168.1.36
> >
> > snmpd is up and running, I can ping both ways, there are no firewalls
> > in place. What could be wrong?
> >
>  Is snmpd listening on your interfaces ?
> 
>  Check with "sudo netstat -natup | grep 161" on the sarge box.
> 
>  @+,
>   Fab
> 
> >>> On Sarge I have:
> >>> netstat -natup | grep 161
> >>> udp0  0 0.0.0.0:161 0.0.0.0:*
> >>>707/snmpd
> >>> But Sarge is looking for snmp info on Etch. So for the fun of it, on
> >>> Etch it is:
> >>> netstat -natup | grep 161
> >>> udp0  0 127.0.0.1:161   0.0.0.0:*
> >>>1636/snmpd
> >> snmpd is only binded to your localhost interface (127.0.0.1:161) on this
> >> box. Check your conf. to have it listening on the 192.168.1.36 one.
> >>
> >> @+,
> >>Fab
> >
> > Thanks for your tip. At first I couldn't find where the 127.0.0.1 was
> > coming from on Etch, but after some digging around I found
> > /etc/defaults/snmpd (I always forget this folder)
> > SNMPDOPTS='-Lsd -Lf /dev/null -u snmp -I -smux -p /var/run/snmpd.pid
> > 127.0.0.1' (this is SNMPDOPTS='-Lsd -Lf /dev/null -p
> > /var/run/snmpd.pid' on sarge)
> >
> > I cut off the 127.0.0.1 bit, and it goes better now. Although no
> > errors, I also get no output on Sarge from Etch:
> > sarge:/# snmpwalk -v 1 -c public 192.168.1.36 system
> > End of MIB
> >
> > So i tried something more specific on Etch:
> > etch:/# snmpget -v 1 -c public localhost system.sysUpTime.0
> > Error in packet
> > Reason: (noSuchName) There is no such variable name in this MIB.
> > Failed object: DISMAN-EVENT-MIB::sysUpTimeInstance
> >
> > Yet on Sarge I get:
> > sarge:/# snmpget -v 1 -c public localhost system.sysUpTime.0
> > SNMPv2-MIB::sysUpTime.0 = Timeticks: (3251425) 9:01:54.25
> >
> > Both sarge and etch have no specific (or default) snmp.conf, and should
> > get (?) their MIBs from /usr/share/snmp/mibs/ which look similar on
> > both hosts. Any ideas?
>
> Not much. Bunch of things to try :
> - check on both boxes the interface binding of snmpd (netstat -natup |
> grep 161).
> - test with local interrogation on both box with snmpwalk first :
> # snmpwalk -v 1 -c public localhost_or/and_local_ip .
> "." means start from the root of the mib-tree (could use .1 also). You
> should get something. If not either you use the wrong community either
> your /etc/snmp/snmpd.conf is uterly broken --> fix it.
> - test from the other box.
>
> Sorry for not being more helpful, but I don't have any etch computer to
> test.
>
> @+,
>   Fab
Thanks for your tips. Here's what I tried on my Etch box:
Etch:/# netstat -natup | grep 161
udp0  0 0.0.0.0:161 0.0.0.0:*
   6007/snmpd
So that seems ok.
I've created this bare settings file in /etc/snmp/snmpd.conf
# /etc/snmp/snmpd.conf
# sec.name  source community
trapsink  readonly  localhost  public
#sec.model  sec.name
group MyROGroup  v1 readonly
#   incl/excl subtree  mask
view allincluded  .1   80
#context sec.model sec.level match  read   write  notif
access MyROGroup ""  any   noauthexact  allnone   none
# end of file
And stopped en started snmpd (restart only stops snmpd, this seems like
a bug). And tried snmpwalk again:
Etch:/# snmpwalk -v 1 -c public localhost
End of MIB

So again no results. I'm kinda lost here. I might purge the snmpd
package and try reinstalling it, let's see where that gets me. Or does
anyone spot the error?


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Re: xine video playback jumpy

[Kent West]

andy wrote:
The playback on xine seems to be quite jumpy. Is there anything that I 
can do (e.g. an option, for example) that will change this and make 
the play-back smoother?


One thing to try is to make sure DMA is turned on for your drives 
(particularly DVD drive, if you're playing a DVD when you notice the 
jumpiness, or hard drive if you notice it when playing from a 
locally-stored file). Google for "hdparm" for more info.


Another thing is to throw more RAM at the problem, or to reduce RAM 
consumption (try Icewm instead of KDE, shut down unneeded apps, etc).


Also, make sure you're not running low on drive space on any partitions.



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more farting around with jigdo and Etch RC1...

[Michael Fothergill]

Dear Debianists/jigdo people,

As you can see one file was missing in the DVD image #1 of Etch RC1 i386 
used to make CD#5 of the same Etch release...


Jigsaw Download "lite"
Copyright (C) 2001-2005  |  jigdo@
Richard Atterer  |  atterer.net
Loading settings from `/home/mikef/.jigdo-lite'

-
To resume a half-finished download, enter name of .jigdo file.
To start a new download, enter URL of .jigdo file.
You can also enter several URLs/filenames, separated with spaces,
or enumerate in {}, e.g. `http://server/cd-{1_NONUS,2,3}.jigdo'
jigdo [/home/mikef/jigdo/debian-testing-i386-binary-4.jigdo]: 
/home/mikef/jigdo/debian-testing-i386-binary-5.jigdo


-
Images offered by `/home/mikef/jigdo/debian-testing-i386-binary-5.jigdo':
 1: 'Debian GNU/Linux testing "Etch" - Official Snapshot i386 Binary-5' 
(debian-testing-i386-binary-5.iso)


Further information about `debian-testing-i386-binary-5.iso':
Generated on Fri, 10 Nov 2006 12:59:25 +0100

-
If you already have a previous version of the CD you are
downloading, jigdo can re-use files on the old CD that are also
present in the new image, and you do not need to download them
again. Mount the old CD ROM and enter the path it is mounted under
(e.g. `/mnt/cdrom').
Alternatively, just press enter if you want to start downloading
the remaining files.

You can also enter a single digit from the list below to
select the respective entry for scanning:
 1: /media/cdrom0
Files to scan: 1

Found 589 of the 590 files required by the template
Copied input files to temporary file `debian-testing-i386-binary-5.iso.tmp' 
- repeat command and supply more files to continue


-
If you already have a previous version of the CD you are
downloading, jigdo can re-use files on the old CD that are also
present in the new image, and you do not need to download them
again. Mount the old CD ROM and enter the path it is mounted under
(e.g. `/mnt/cdrom').
Alternatively, just press enter if you want to start downloading
the remaining files.

You can also enter a single digit from the list below to
select the respective entry for scanning:
 1: /media/cdrom0
Files to scan:

-
The jigdo file refers to files stored on Debian mirrors. Please
choose a Debian mirror as follows: Either enter a complete URL
pointing to a mirror (in the form
`ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/'), or enter any regular expression
for searching through the list of mirrors: Try a two-letter
country code such as `de', or a country name like `United
States', or a server name like `sunsite'.
Debian mirror [http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/]:

-
Merging parts from `file:' URIs, if any...
Found 0 of the 1 files required by the template
Copied input files to temporary file `debian-testing-i386-binary-5.iso.tmp' 
- repeat command and supply more files to continue
--00:34:52--  
http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/pool/main/e/exim/exim_3.36-18.1_i386.deb
  => 
`debian-testing-i386-binary-5.iso.tmpdir/ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/pool/main/e/exim/exim_3.36-18.1_i386.deb'

Resolving ftp.uk.debian.org... 83.142.228.128
Connecting to ftp.uk.debian.org|83.142.228.128|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found
00:34:52 ERROR 404: Not Found.

Skipping object `debian-testing-i386-binary-5.iso.tmpdir' (No such file or 
directory)

Found 0 of the 1 files required by the template
Copied input files to temporary file `debian-testing-i386-binary-5.iso.tmp' 
- repeat command and supply more files to continue


-
1 files not found in previous pass, trying
alternative download locations:

--00:34:53--  
http://us.cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/snapshot/Debian/pool/main/e/exim/exim_3.36-18.1_i386.deb
  => 
`debian-testing-i386-binary-5.iso.tmpdir/us.cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/snapshot/Debian/pool/main/e/exim/exim_3.36-18.1_i386.deb'

Resolving us.cdimage.debian.org... 83.142.228.128
Connecting to us.cdimage.debian.org|83.142.228.128|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 791,950 (773K) [application/x-debian-package]

100%[>] 791,950  110.41K/sETA 
00:00


00:35:00 (110.44 KB/s) - 
`debian-testing-i386-binary-5.iso.tmpdir/us.cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/snapshot/Debian/pool/main/e/exim/exim_3.36-18.1_i386.deb' 
saved [791950/791950]


Found 1 of the 1 files required by the template
Successfully created `debian-testing-i386-binary-5.iso'

-
Finished!
The fact that you got this far is a strong indication that 
`debian-testing-i386-binar

Re: GNOME-bluetooth package AWOL in Etch i386?

[Brian Durant]

Hi Sven,

On 12/19/06, Sven Arvidsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Tue, 2006-12-19 at 20:50 +0100, Brian Durant wrote:
> As far as I can see, this issue has been going on for about a year now
> without resolution. So, it won't be a part of Etch? What about bluez?
> I see that both Debian and Ubuntu has that, plus some utils that might
> work.

No, I don't think there's any chance to see this in Etch. As for the
bluez-* packages, aren't they already in Etch?


They are in Etch. I just don't know exactly what bluez does compared
with the gnome-bluetooth package.


> Is there a work around?

The pkg-bluetooth seems to have preliminary package scripts in SVN, so
building it yourself would be the only way I guess.


I was thinking specifically with regards to syncing my mobile with
Evolution. I don't really have an overview of how all of these
packages for Bluetooth interact.



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Re: moving /var

[Roberto C. Sanchez]

On Wed, Dec 20, 2006 at 02:36:16PM -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I recently tried to move /var to a new partition.  Booted from some
> live cd, moved it and edited /etc/fstab to suit.  Broke the machine
> as it wouldn't boot afterwards (in fact I recollect it booted but with
> no keyboard.  Anyway it was unusable.) I thought it might be an initrd
> problem, and had a half-baked memory that chrooting into the root
> partition and running makeinitrd or somesuch would solve it. But as
> usual I got errors from nonexistant /dev and /proc filesystems in the
> chroot and so could not build a new initrd.  So I copied /dev back
> where it came from and reverted fstab and all was well.
> 
> I might have been more persistent but had a slow (and expensive) i'net
> connection so it was easier to give up.
> 
> What should I have done?
> 
How did you move it.  What sequence of commands did you use?

Regards,

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Re: ldap server restart

[Roberto C. Sanchez]

On Wed, Dec 20, 2006 at 11:24:41AM +0100, Fabrizio Lippolis wrote:
> Roberto C. Sanchez ha scritto:
> 
> >Have you looked at bug report #304735 [0]?
> 
> No I haven't, I just wonder that after so long the problem hasn't been 
> solved yet. :(
> 
It might be worthwhile to email the upstream development mailing list
about it.

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strange processor (slow on AC, normal on battery)

[strawks]

Hello all,

I have an Asus A6VA laptop (Intel Centrino, 1.8GHz Pentium-M).

On Linux 2.6.18-3, when running on battery, the system works fine. But
when I plug the AC adapter, the system is very slow, CPU frequency stays
often below 40MHz. Running the following commands, CPU frequency goes up
to 1.8GHz after ~0.5 seconde and the system runs fine :
nice -20 bash -c "for((;;)); do echo -n; done"

Removing the processor module (rmmod processor) solve this issue but of
course I have no more control over CPU frequency.
Inserting the module with max_cstate=1 also solves this issue, and I can
change CPU frequency with cpufreq-set.

I have installed the same kernel on 3 (one of which is a Medion with
Centrino) other laptops and 2 desktop computers without encounting this
behaviour.

This problem is present since the first 2.6.17 stock kernel.

I'm currently staying with the stock 2.6.16-2 kernel since this is the
last working kernel on my laptop.

Does anyone have seen the same behaviour on another laptop or desktop?


Googling around didn't get me anything.

Any hint would be appreciated.

regards,
strawks



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Re: [OT] CVS vs. SVN

[Roberto C. Sanchez]

On Tue, Dec 19, 2006 at 07:01:10PM -0800, David Christensen wrote:
> 
> I also need CVS's ability to deal with line endings, because I move text
> files, source code, etc., between Windows/Cygwin and Linux for
> development, testing, and use.  Can SVN deal with the various line
> endings automatically like CVS?
> 
The SVN client is smart enough to know the host OS's line terminator
preference and use that unless it is has for some reason been overridden
in the repository.

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Re: [OT] CVS vs. SVN

[Roberto C. Sanchez]

On Tue, Dec 19, 2006 at 10:01:05PM -0600, Russell L. Harris wrote:
> 
> It's really not a matter of a repository version number being applied
> to all files in the repository.  Rather, think of the repository
> version number in terms of a snapshot of the repository at a
> particular moment in time.
> 
Bascially, every checkin automatically tags the repostiry with a one-up
numerical tag :-)

That is how I think of it to myself.

> It's easy to become accustomed the SVN concept of repository version,
> as opposed to the CVS system of file version.  The concept is
> particularly nice when the repository is backed up on a regular basis.
> I backup to a set of flash memory sticks which are rotated.  I tag the
> flash device with the repository version (such as #594), which is the
> only version number of which I need to keep track.  The concept also
> is nice for projects (such as software development) in which the
> revision level of the system is of more significance than is the
> revision level of the various files which comprise the system.
> 
> I was intimidated by the compexity of CVS; but Subversion was easy to
> learn.  There is good documentation at http://subversion.tigris.org,
> and there is an on-line book by O'Reilly.
> 
The book is a must read and is free (as in beer and speech), so there is
no excuse not to read it, other than claiming to not have enough time.

Regards,

-Roberto

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weird mousing on several Debian systems

[hendrik]

Weird mousing on two Debian systems

(1) Last night, when I started firefox on my AMD-64 etch machine, it 
complained firefox was already running.  Fair enough -- I have one 
shared home directory used on several machines, and it probably *was* 
already running somewhere else.  Firefox seems to do its locking on an 
all-or-nothing basis, and so it refused to run.  I didmissed the message 
window and went to do something else.

But after that, the mouse didn't work properly.  It would move around 
OK, but I couldn't click on anything.

But ctrl-alt-backspace still killed X, and brought me back to gdm, 
which let me log in and after that everything worked properly. I tried 
starting firefox again, gor the same no-go message, but when I dismissed 
it this time everything was OK.

The most recent upgrade to this machine was a week ago (as mentioned in 
one of the messages in the Debian bug report log 
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=379480), 
and it has performed properly from then to last night, when this 
behaviour suddenly happened.

Since ctrl-alt-backspace appeared to solve the problem, I decided not to 
investigate -- after all, what was left to investigate?

(2)  But then this morning I logged in through gdm on another machine, a 
32-bit sarge system.  Again the mouse misbehaved, but differently.  This 
time, it would register mouse clicks only when I clicked slightly below 
the icon or menu item.  This was impossible on the icons on the bottom 
bar, btu I could gain access to applications using the background's 
menu. By the way, gdm is the screen manager on both this machine and the 
AMD-64 I mentioned above, and this is one of the other machines where I 
use the same home directory, NFS-mounted.

Once I started firefox, mouse behaviour changed.  It seemed to sense 
window boundaries correctly, but I had to click near icons instead of on 
them, and not always in the same direction.

I exited icewm through a regular logout, got back to gdm and started up 
again, remembering last night's experiences.  Back in icewm. I not had a 
one-centimetre offset to the right; i.e., to click on an icon or menu 
item or scroll-bar one centinetre to the right of where it was.  A few 
icons could not be clicked at all (like the forward and back icons in 
firefox).  This behaviour was the same for the toolbar at the bottom of 
the screen.  I logged out bu clicking 1 cm to the right of the logout 
menu item, and was back in gdm.

This time I decided to check out gdm.s icons.  Its language, session, 
and actions items lit up when the mouse was one cm to the right of them.

Now I have six virtual X consoles.  This behaviour occurs on only one of 
them, the one I reach with ctrl-alt-F11.

I logged in on another virtual console just now to send this message, 
and everything is behaving itself.

Any ideas?

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Re: apt cache files (*.bin) corruption

[richard]

> Andy Hawkins wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Recently, I've been getting regular instances of the bin files in
>> /var/cache/apt getting corrupted (any apt related command seg-faults
>> unless
>> I delete these files and do another 'update).
>
> It happened to me a couple of weeks ago, when I erroneously ran two
> instances of aptitude on two ttys. I don't know how I interleaved the
> various commands I gave on both instances, but the result was exactly
> this, the .bin files corrupted and the consequent segfaults.

That is interesting.  Aptitude always complains that it cannot get a lock
and opens read-only when I try that.  I wonder why it didn't for you.

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moving /var

[richard]

I recently tried to move /var to a new partition.  Booted from some
live cd, moved it and edited /etc/fstab to suit.  Broke the machine
as it wouldn't boot afterwards (in fact I recollect it booted but with
no keyboard.  Anyway it was unusable.) I thought it might be an initrd
problem, and had a half-baked memory that chrooting into the root
partition and running makeinitrd or somesuch would solve it. But as
usual I got errors from nonexistant /dev and /proc filesystems in the
chroot and so could not build a new initrd.  So I copied /dev back
where it came from and reverted fstab and all was well.

I might have been more persistent but had a slow (and expensive) i'net
connection so it was easier to give up.

What should I have done?

TIA

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Re: smooth upgrades

[richard]

On Tue, Dec 19, 2006 at 01:51:57PM -0800, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:

[...]
> warning! train platform analogy! warning!
>
> okay, here's how I view the releases. Debian is like a set of
> trains. There are a limited number of platforms for getting on the
> trains. Each platform has a name and they are 'experimental',
> 'unstable', 'testing', 'stable' and 'oldstable' (are there any
> more?). Each train has a name too, though the train doesn't get named
> until its on the track between the unstable and testing
[...]

Hehehe.  Thank you, Andrew.  Smooth analogy.

Actually, I think it should be on the debian site.

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xine video playback jumpy

[andy]

Greetings

The playback on xine seems to be quite jumpy. Is there anything that I 
can do (e.g. an option, for example) that will change this and make the 
play-back smoother?


TiA

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Re: Compiling ffmpeg with mp3lame support on debain with 2.6.19

[Sven Arvidsson]

On Wed, 2006-12-20 at 08:25 -0500, Luke MacNeil wrote:
> I've been trying for the last week or so to get a ffmpeg to compile.
> >From what I've read the debian package comes without support for mp3, so

Isn't the ffmpeg packages from http://www.debian-multimedia.org/
compiled with lame?

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Re: Fwd: X aborting

[Kent West]

Niels Rasmussen wrote:
> I've installed Etch and xorg seems to be the new standard X in Etch.
>> > As John C suggested the "radeon" trick worked :-)
>> >
>> > Now I can use X as root, but not as user !
>> >
>> > I get this error:
>> >
>> > "X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting.
>> > giving up.
>> > xinit: Connection refused (errno 111): unable to connect to X server
>> > xinit: No such process (errno 3): Server error."
>>
>
>
/etc/X11/Xwrapper.config should have "allowed_users=console"; I'd start
by checking that file.


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Compiling ffmpeg with mp3lame support on debain with 2.6.19

[Luke MacNeil]

Hello Everyone,

I've been trying for the last week or so to get a ffmpeg to compile.
>From what I've read the debian package comes without support for mp3, so
I've got to compile it myself. I've tried a few things, including
recompiling the kernel with both the new and old versions of v4l. I don't
know if that matters, but these are the errors that I continue to
encounter:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/ffmpeg$ make
make -C libavutil   all
make[1]: Entering directory `/home/luke/ffmpeg/libavutil'
make[1]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/luke/ffmpeg/libavutil'
make -C libavcodec  all
make[1]: Entering directory `/home/luke/ffmpeg/libavcodec'
make[1]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/luke/ffmpeg/libavcodec'
make -C libavformat all
make[1]: Entering directory `/home/luke/ffmpeg/libavformat'
gcc -I"/home/luke/ffmpeg"/libavcodec -DHAVE_AV_CONFIG_H -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 
-D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_ISOC9X_SOURCE -I"/home/luke/ffmpeg" 
-I"/home/luke/ffmpeg" -I"/home/luke/ffmpeg"/libavutil -fomit-frame-pointer -g 
-Wdeclaration-after-statement -Wall -Wno-switch -Wdisabled-optimization 
-Wpointer-arith -Wredundant-decls -O3  -c -o
grab.o grab.c
In file included from grab.c:21:
avformat.h:243: warning: 'AVFrac' is deprecated
In file included from grab.c:28:
/usr/include/linux/videodev.h:125: error: expected specifier-qualifier-list
before '__s32'
/usr/include/linux/videodev.h:132: error: expected specifier-qualifier-list
before '__u32'
/usr/include/linux/videodev.h:141: error: expected specifier-qualifier-list
before '__u8'
/usr/include/linux/videodev.h:171: error: expected specifier-qualifier-list
before '__u32'
/usr/include/linux/videodev.h:224: error: expected specifier-qualifier-list
before '__u32'
/usr/include/linux/videodev.h:240: error: expected specifier-qualifier-list
before '__u32'
/usr/include/linux/videodev.h:338: error: expected specifier-qualifier-list
before '__u32'
/usr/include/linux/videodev.h:362: error: expected specifier-qualifier-list
before '__u32'
/usr/include/linux/videodev.h:370: error: expected specifier-qualifier-list
before '__u32'
/usr/include/linux/videodev.h:404: error: expected specifier-qualifier-list
before '__u32'
/usr/include/linux/videodev.h:431: error: expected specifier-qualifier-list
before '__u32'
/usr/include/linux/videodev.h:443: error: expected specifier-qualifier-list
before '__u32'
/usr/include/linux/videodev.h:456: error: expected specifier-qualifier-list
before '__u32'
/usr/include/linux/videodev.h:484: error: expected '=', ',', ';', 'asm'
or '__attribute__' before 'v4l2_std_id'
/usr/include/linux/videodev.h:551: error: expected specifier-qualifier-list
before '__u32'
/usr/include/linux/videodev.h:565: error: expected specifier-qualifier-list
before '__u32'
/usr/include/linux/videodev.h:602: error: expected specifier-qualifier-list
before '__u32'
/usr/include/linux/videodev.h:620: error: expected specifier-qualifier-list
before '__u32'
/usr/include/linux/videodev.h:627: error: expected specifier-qualifier-list
before '__u32'
/usr/include/linux/videodev.h:641: error: expected specifier-qualifier-list
before '__u32'
/usr/include/linux/videodev.h:687: error: expected specifier-qualifier-list
before '__u32'
/usr/include/linux/videodev.h:702: error: expected specifier-qualifier-list
before '__u32'
/usr/include/linux/videodev.h:735: error: expected specifier-qualifier-list
before '__u32'
/usr/include/linux/videodev.h:746: error: expected specifier-qualifier-list
before '__u32'
/usr/include/linux/videodev.h:761: error: expected specifier-qualifier-list
before '__u32'
/usr/include/linux/videodev.h:776: error: expected specifier-qualifier-list
before '__u32'
/usr/include/linux/videodev.h:805: error: expected specifier-qualifier-list
before '__u8'
/usr/include/linux/videodev.h:819: error: expected specifier-qualifier-list
before '__u8'
grab.c:40: error: field 'video_cap' has incomplete type
grab.c:41: error: field 'audio_saved' has incomplete type
grab.c:43: error: field 'gb_buffers' has incomplete type
grab.c:44: error: field 'gb_buf' has incomplete type
grab.c: In function 'grab_read_header':
grab.c:68: error: storage size of 'tuner' isn't known
grab.c:69: error: storage size of 'audio' isn't known
grab.c:70: error: storage size of 'pict' isn't known
grab.c:112: error: 'VIDIOCGCAP' undeclared (first use in this function)
grab.c:112: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
grab.c:112: error: for each function it appears in.)
grab.c:117: error: 'VID_TYPE_CAPTURE' undeclared (first use in this
function)
grab.c:125: error: 'VIDEO_PALETTE_YUV420P' undeclared (first use in this
function)
grab.c:128: error: 'VIDEO_PALETTE_YUV422' undeclared (first use in this
function)
grab.c:131: error: 'VIDEO_PALETTE_RGB24' undeclared (first use in this
function)
grab.c:136: error: 'VIDIOCGTUNER' undeclared (first use in this function)
grab.c:138: error: 'VIDEO_MODE_PAL' undeclared (first use in this function)
grab.c:140: error: 'VI

Re: Add hardware to an existing system

[Gustavo Franco]

On 12/16/06, Hugo Vanwoerkom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

kevin bailey wrote:
> Something I've never known how to do?!?!
>
> Say I've installed Etch (which looks as good as Ubuntu BTW) on to a PC - and
> I then need to install a new graphics card and a DVD burner.
>
> Now I take it that during installation the hardware was detected and the
> various modules were selected and loaded.  How to I tell the system to load
> the new modules required?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Kevin
>
>

It's a mixed bag.

I just added a DVD Burner:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16827106013
for $30! Check that price!
and it was detected right away and mondo used it w/o problem.

I only use Nvidia graphics cards and those are detected right away by
the Nvidia driver (I use the closed source driver, not the Debian package).

However, I added a USB disk, through adding an ATA disk:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822148095
to an external enclosure:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817145657
and plugged that into the USB port and that was detected right away
also. But I could not boot from it: motherboard BIOS problem.

If I added an entry to my /etc/fstab for the USB disk, it would cause no
problems with a Debian stock kernel, because it uses initrd, but with my
custom kernel I would have to add the initrd option to load usb-storage
support.

My daughter bought a USB external modem for me and it would never work,
because of the proprietary M$ driver.

Bottomline: it depends on what you're adding and what hardware you have
installed.


This is valid for any operating system, not Debian GNU/Linux alone but
the most used by end-users too. Go hunt for up-to-date video card
drivers to run over amd64 and/or with their latest stuff. :)

I think in your scenario Debian performed very well and the USB
external modem isn't really our fault. I blame the vendor for not
disclose the hardware specs and/or the kernel team if they did. You
know, our part of the community work that needs to be done, is right
there in Etch waiting the other pieces.

regards,
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Re: restarting eth0

[Jhair Tocancipa Triana]

Jhair Tocancipa Triana writes:

> Like

> /etc/networking restart

Typo. I meant

/etc/init.d/networking restart

(my apologies for replying myself).

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Re: restarting eth0

[Jhair Tocancipa Triana]

richard  writes:

> I use 'ifdown eth0'
> followed by 'ifup eth0'

> I expect there is another way.

Like

/etc/networking restart

It will only work if the eth0 interface is marked as auto in
/etc/network/interfaces. And it will bring _all_ interfaces marked as
auto down and up.

It is shorter than two different commands though.

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Re: if I were a newbie how would I get sound?

[richard]

On Mon, Dec 18, 2006 at 07:51:45PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[...]
> If there's anyone who
>  (a) want sound, and
>  (b) doesn't often have difficulties with sound,
> I'd like to know about it.
[...]

For desktop/tower boxes, I ususally find it just works.  At worst, I might
have to unmute the mixer.  Laptops, that's another matter.  With them, I
don't even waste time trying any more.

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Re: restarting eth0

[richard]

> Hello all
>
> Should be just a quickie: how does one restart the ethernet card eth0 in
> Etch?

I use 'ifdown eth0'
followed by 'ifup eth0'

I expect there is another way.
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Re: restarting eth0 (Resolved)

[andy]

Stephen Ing wrote:

I don't think it has changed.

ifdown eth0
ifup eth0

Cheers,

Stephen
-Original Message-
  

From: andy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Dec 20, 2006 3:07 AM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: restarting eth0

Hello all

Should be just a quickie: how does one restart the ethernet card eth0 in 
Etch?


Thanks for any assistance.

/A


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Thanks Stephen (& Ali) - now sorted!! I was using something else - no 
wonder it didn't work. Memory (human) issues, I guess!! :)


Cheers

/A

Re: restarting eth0

[Stephen Ing]

I don't think it has changed.

ifdown eth0
ifup eth0

Cheers,

Stephen
-Original Message-
>From: andy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Dec 20, 2006 3:07 AM
>To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
>Subject: restarting eth0
>
>Hello all
>
>Should be just a quickie: how does one restart the ethernet card eth0 in 
>Etch?
>
>Thanks for any assistance.
>
>/A
>
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