Re: vim like completion in bash?
Thanks, maybe I did not put my ideas clearly in a directory there are two files: aaa and bbb if I type vi *a under the command line, the vim editor will open aaa file But I want the effect that: I type vi *a under the command line and press tab it will automatically expand to vi aaa. I am using bash. Thank you. Zhang On Sun, Mar 04, 2007 at 01:51:26AM -0500, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote: > zhengquan zhang wrote: > > > Hello: > > I can :e *doc* in vim, pressing tab and it can help me find the document I > > need, > > but in bash if I use vi *doc* and press tab, nothing would happen, it can > > not find the file I want to edit > > Is there any switches to make it possible? > > Thank you. > > > > zhang > > Sometime back I had the same issue. This discussion might help > http://www.tutorials-blog.com/editors/getting-like/ > > raju > > -- > Kamaraju S Kusumanchi > http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ > http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debian in combination with
On Sun, Mar 04, 2007 at 07:21:44AM +, Andy Smith wrote: > On Sat, Mar 03, 2007 at 10:56:24AM +0100, impek wrote: > > I have the same problem with debian and pdsmi > > This is very annoying. > > Etch appears to makes problems during installion too. > > Such as? [...] > The ahci drver in Etch's standard kernel supports the ICH7 SATA > controller. Perhaps I spoke too soon on ahci, since after rebooting it appears to use ati_piix. Whatever the case this is a PDSMi-based server working with a stock Etch kernel. http://bitfolk.com/~andy/tmp/montelena.html I have no reason to believe it wouldn't also work with Sarge, as long as you used a kernel that supported ICH7. What problems are you seeing? Cheers, Andy -- http://bitfolk.com/ -- No-nonsense VPS hosting Encrypted mail welcome - keyid 0x604DE5DB signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: debian in combination with
On Sat, Mar 03, 2007 at 10:56:24AM +0100, impek wrote: > I have the same problem with debian and pdsmi > This is very annoying. > Etch appears to makes problems during installion too. Such as? I am as I type completing an install of Etch on a PDSMi-based Supermicro server 8 time zones away from me. I did it as a debootstrap from a gentoo live cd remastered to work over serial console (no network boot server there). The ahci drver in Etch's standard kernel supports the ICH7 SATA controller. Cheers, Andy -- http://bitfolk.com/ -- No-nonsense VPS hosting Encrypted mail welcome - keyid 0x604DE5DB signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Firefox: Converting URLs to kill backslashes
I have a maintenance manual for an antique car that, unfortunately, can best be viewed with a certain insecure browser on a non-free OS. I've found the main issue with using this in Linux is that the file names are all stored as relative URLs with backslashes between the directory levels instead of slashes. Firefox does not recognize the filenames for only this reason. Most of the links to specific pages and .pdf files are in .swf files. (Konqueror doesn't work well with this, although Firefox does.) At this point, doing a massive search and replace to update all the files to use a regular slash won't work. Is there some way I can tell Firefox to accept a backslash in a file name for local files the same way it accepts a slash? Thanks! Hal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: vim like completion in bash?
zhengquan zhang wrote: > Hello: > I can :e *doc* in vim, pressing tab and it can help me find the document I > need, > but in bash if I use vi *doc* and press tab, nothing would happen, it can > not find the file I want to edit > Is there any switches to make it possible? > Thank you. > > zhang Sometime back I had the same issue. This discussion might help http://www.tutorials-blog.com/editors/getting-like/ raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hard Drive hdb becomes hdf !!!
On Sat, Mar 03, 2007 at 04:21:18PM -0500, Thomas H. George wrote: > I built a new computer with two hard drives and installed XP Home > Edition on the first drive. The second drive contains my Debian system > - kernel 2.6.17 and Testing. I intended to use disc 1 of a Sarge > installation set as a rescue disk to access hdb and run lilo to convert > this box to a dual boot box. > > boot: rescue=/dev/hdb5 failed. > > During the load > >"Partition Check > hdd > hde: hde1 > hdf: hdf1,hdf2 < hdf5, hdf6, hdf7, hdf8 >" > > so I tried. > > boot: rescue=/dev/hdf5 > > which stopped with > >"Warning: Unable to open and initial console > Kernel Panic: No init found. Try passing an init= option to the > kernel" > > I don't know why the letters changed and what init option I should use. > The hard drives are master and slave on ide 1. There are two > connectors, ide 1 and ide 2 on the motherboard. > > The motherboard is KA3 MVP and the processor is an AMD Athlon 64 3800. > > (Note: Only the Debian Sarge disc knows what's out there. My Knoppix > CD, my bbc-2.1 CD, my Damn Small Linux CD and two Debian boot floppies > all fail.) > > How can I regain access to my Debian system? > Most computers with ide on-board can use 4 hd's: hda,hdb,hdc,hdd if you have a second ide card, it uses hde,hdf,hdg,hdh so somehow your machine is seeing hdb as hdf. The way I found to fix this is to use 'labels'. They specify the disk without using 'changing' identifiers. if you use a live cd or similar and type: ls -l /dev/disk/by-id/ it will show the 'id' label and what it points to: /dev/disk/by-id/ata-QUANTUM_FIREBALLlct15_20_613025126527-part1 -> ../../hda1 so if I used /dev/hda1, I'd replace it with /dev/disk/by-id/ata-QUANTUM_FIREBALLlct15_20_613025126527-part1 Its a bit longer, but if I move the disk hda to hdb, the 'by-id' will still find it. So read up on lilo or grub about the syntax. -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal |mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/| | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keyserver: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | signature.asc Description: Digital signature
xsane scanner root only
Hello. I have a scanner, HP ScanJet 6200C. There's also a TV Card on my computer (Multimedia video controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Video Capture), which I don't use. When I start xsane, as regular user, it only allows me the choice of the Bt878 device, and not the HP ScanJet. However, when using it as root, it gives me the option to choose which device -- at which point I choose the HP ScanJet, and everything works fine. I wish, though, to use it as my regular user, and not be bothered having to use it as root (being forced to change the owner and properties of the subsequently created image files, etc.) Any tips for how I can do this? Mark -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
vim like completion in bash?
Hello: I can :e *doc* in vim, pressing tab and it can help me find the document I need, but in bash if I use vi *doc* and press tab, nothing would happen, it can not find the file I want to edit Is there any switches to make it possible? Thank you. zhang
Re: ssh
On 3/1/07, Francesco Pietra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Guillermo: No, I have the two machines (deb32 and deb64 are their hostnames) attached to the same router. The router is in front of me, the two machines behind the wall. The router (Xyxel Prestige 66H, ADSL 2+ 4 Port Gateway) is connected to ADSL, which line is separated by the teleph line by a filter. That means that the two machines face a firewall barrier, to which I can't renounce because the two machine have to play together for jobs that may last many days uninterruptly. And I need access, during the job, to internet from deb32. Obviously, the two machines have an apparent identical ID under such conditions, and I don't know if their inernal private addresses exist and how they can be accessed and exploited. I found that the two machines - under the above conditions - differ for the "inet addr" (as it can be derived by the root commanf "ifconfig"). Which differ by one digit and can change from login to login, though probably it depends on which machine gets connected first to internet, which can be regulated so that each machine has always the same inet addr. Therefore the "inet addr" That seems to be exploiable for "slogin" from one machine to another one (the hostnames are not, as they are not defined on /etc/hosts, and cannot be defined because of the dynamic - and behind router - ID discussed). Probably I am discovering hot water, though I have not completed the connection because not all keys are yet in place. Probably one has to connect from deb32 to deb64 as root, under the above conditions. What I suspect, is that there is a proved protocol for getting to work INTERACTIVELY for long periods two machines under the above described conditions. This is why I hope to get suggestions. I must say that I alraedy got very useful suggestions from the debian science list, though the task is not completed yet. It could be nice that if you send a query to two different lists, you can post the good answers from one to the other. On the other issue I really do not understand why the things are not working for you, i tried twice the method i described and works perfectly. sorry. -- Guillermo Garron "Linux IS user friendly... It's just selective about who its friends are." (Using FC6, CentOS4.4 and Ubuntu 6.06) http://feeds.feedburner.com/go2linux http://www.go2linux.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Howto delete DVD-RW files
El Diumenge 04 Març 2007 05:06, Roberto C. Sanchez va escriure: > You mean delete individual files from the disc like you would from a > regular filesystem? Yes. > I don't think you can do that with a normal DVD. In one DVD-RW. Seems that some non free software can: http://www.computerhope.com/issues/ch000788.htm Thanks :) -- Benjamí http://blog.bitassa.cat .
Re: Firestarter VS Shorewall
On 1 Mar 2007 08:41:10 -0800, Jordi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello I saw two good firewalls: - Firestarter wich is easy - Shorewall wich seems versatile Wich is best for a single server pc? Does the complexity of shorewall worth the effort or is firestarter as good as shorewall? ShoreWall is great, if you want a non-gui but also easy way to configure a simple firewall based on Iptables try this one. http://linux.go2linux.org/node/3 regards. -- Guillermo Garron "Linux IS user friendly... It's just selective about who its friends are." (Using FC6, CentOS4.4 and Ubuntu 6.06) http://feeds.feedburner.com/go2linux http://www.go2linux.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sign emails with ssh-dsa-key ?
On 3/3/07, W Paul Mills <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andreas Duffner wrote: > Hi, > I created my ssh-dsa keys with the ssh utilities. > Can I use these keys for things like mail signing, > mail and/or file crypting or anything else ? > Or is it a special format which I can use only for ssh ? > > At least my Thunderbird does not like these keys. > Or I did not find the option. > > Thanks, > Andreas Wrong program. Get gnupg and enigmail If you are using ThunderBird there is an extension for that. regards, -- Guillermo Garron "Linux IS user friendly... It's just selective about who its friends are." (Using FC6, CentOS4.4 and Ubuntu 6.06) http://feeds.feedburner.com/go2linux http://www.go2linux.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Firefox drop-down menus problem
On Sat, 2007-02-24 at 03:42 -0800, Freddy Freeloader wrote: > Nyizsnyik Ferenc wrote: > > On Fri, 2007-02-23 at 21:09 -0600, Default User wrote: > > > >> Running Debian stable, with Foxfire 1.04. In Firefox, there is a > >> problem with the drop-down menus. Unhighlighted items show as black text > >> against a grey background (as expected). But items highlighted by moving > >> the mouse cursor over them show as white text on white background (thus > >> unreadable)! Yet clicking the menu items works as normal. > >> > >> This does not seem to happen for any other program, and does not occur > >> in Icewseasel (Etch). Has anyone else experienced this? If so, is > >> there a solution? > >> > >> > > > > Installing a different theme may help. (Tools -> Themes) > > > > > Yeah, this is definitely related to what theme is being used. I had > that problem with the early versions of Firefox too, and the fix was > just installing and using a different theme. > > Switching to a different theme does solve the problem, but it shouldn't be necessary to do so. Sloppy, sloppy programming . . . -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: a dumb query? pls humor me
On Sat, Mar 03, 2007 at 07:44:06PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: > Paul Johnson wrote: > > Totalitarianism and socialism aren't mutually exclusive, but neither is > any > > other economic and political model combination. Correlation without > causation. > > They're not mutually exclusive because they are the same. Personal > liberty is economic liberty! You can't have one without the other. Any > political movement which curtails economic liberty is directly > curtailing personal liberty. > Stop it Steve your going to make the liberals' heads explode and we might lose a significant number of contributors to the list :-) Regards, -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sanchez http://people.connexer.com/~roberto http://www.connexer.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Howto delete DVD-RW files
On Sun, Mar 04, 2007 at 03:11:40AM +0100, Benjamí Villoslada wrote: > Hi, > > I'm looking for a method to delete individual files in one DVD-RW, without > success :)Any suggestion? KDE or command line, I not use GNOME. > You mean delete individual files from the disc like you would from a regular filesystem? I don't think you can do that with a normal DVD. Regards, -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sanchez http://people.connexer.com/~roberto http://www.connexer.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Sign emails with ssh-dsa-key ?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andreas Duffner wrote: > Hi, > I created my ssh-dsa keys with the ssh utilities. > Can I use these keys for things like mail signing, > mail and/or file crypting or anything else ? > Or is it a special format which I can use only for ssh ? > > At least my Thunderbird does not like these keys. > Or I did not find the option. > > Thanks, > Andreas Wrong program. Get gnupg and enigmail - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFF6j6Du4tRirKTPYwRAhm/AJwPBOXqhmgTf3BgmEqVmvjFmca6+QCeJb9D I0GqQg8DMkqMFTGs4aI8Nx0= =+wkH -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)
Paul Johnson wrote: > Rather bitch than try and fix it, I see. Uh, Paul, here's a hint on why this isn't the zinger you think it is. I think public transportation is the problem. It is part of why things are broken. So how do you reconcile "fixing it" with actually wanting it around? Furthermore you insist that I fix the physical limitations. I'd like to see how *you* would fix it! According to maps.google.com here's the nearest major intersection(s) of my commute in LA: 39.4 mi (about 44 mins) 1. Head southeast on Sierra Madre Villa Ave toward E Sierra Madre Blvd 1.1 mi 4 mins 2. Turn left to merge onto I-210 E 6.9 mi 9 mins 3. Take the exit onto I-605 S 27.3 mi 26 mins 4. Take the CA-22 W exit 0.3 mi 5. Take the right fork to CA-22 W/7th St/Long Beach and merge onto CA-22 W 2.5 mi 4 mins 6. Slight right at E Pacific Coast Hwy 1.3 mi So how do you propose that public transportation, which often goes *slower* than posted limits, has to frequently stop, is not fast on acceleration and isn't going to from door-to-door (tack on another 20m for walking to the intersections in question) is going to do the above in the time you claim it would if it were "fixed". It's 40 freakin' miles! Even the employee bus where I work now which goes 40 freeway miles and only stops once takes close to an hour! Add in stops, multiple boardings, lots of time under the speed limit and you are flat out asking the impossible. Do I have to constantly prove you wrong or are you finally going to figure out I don't abide by your lies, misdirection and flat pompous attitude? >>> Most people are not suicidal and would rather not dodge Californian drivers while lane splitting, >> Uh, nice generalization there. I only *legally* lane-splitted when >> speeds dropped below 30mph. > That wrongly assumes Californian drivers are safe at any speed. There's a reason you have to actually take the test instead of just exchanging your driver's license when moving to Oregon now. The point was, Paul, that you presumed to insinuate I only made decent time because I was on a motorcycle and lane-split all the time. I refuted that and you come back with a snide remark about Californian drivers. As someone else pointed out, at least they can pump their own gas. > I lived there for five years and very rarely saw traffic get to properly move if I went any deeper towards downtown than San Fernando. Of course you didn't. That would involve you actually tearing off the huge blinders you wear all the time. Here's Paul Johnson's blinders in a nutshell: 1: If it's California, it sucks. 2: If it's not socialist, it sucks. 3: Oregon is great. 4: I am never wrong. 5: If anyone has facts to the contrary, see rules 1-4. The rules trump any facts, opposing opinions or logical reasoning. You are a tired, broken record Paul. -- Steve Lamb -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: a dumb query? pls humor me
Paul Johnson wrote: > Totalitarianism and socialism aren't mutually exclusive, but neither is any > other economic and political model combination. Correlation without causation. They're not mutually exclusive because they are the same. Personal liberty is economic liberty! You can't have one without the other. Any political movement which curtails economic liberty is directly curtailing personal liberty. -- Steve Lamb -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: Here we go again.
s. keeling wrote: > Retaliation is not initiation. You are entirely within your rights to defend yourself. You'd be a fool not to. In fact one could argue it is morally reprehensible not to. -- Steve Lamb -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Emailing the system messages to me
On 3/2/07, Celejar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Thu, 01 Mar 2007 15:51:12 + Joe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 12:49:52AM -0400, Guillermo Garron wrote: > >> On 3/1/07, Greg Folkert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> On Thu, 2007-03-01 at 00:36 -0400, Guillermo Garron wrote: [snip] > >> i have think about that, but my PC does not have a reverse lookup > >> name, so I think the email will be returned, I think i need to > >> configure exim, postfix, or sendmail to send email via an account > >> using a login and password, to use an authenticated smtp server. > >> > >> am I right? > > > > exim can certainly handle the mail for you, but maybe its easier to > > just set it > > > > root: guillermo > > > > or whatever your local account is. > > > > Not if he needs to read it from elsewhere. > > Exim4 can certainly authenticate, what I'm not absolutely sure of is > how. Here's a couple of bits from the exim4.config.template, one > router and one transport section: [snip] > It happens that the ISP in question expects Auth SMTP on port 587, > but some accept on 25 and some on both. You only need the port if > it won't accept on 25. Some want TLS, some don't. > > You also need to set up a passwd.client file in /etc/exim4 with the > server name, user and password separated by colons, one account per > line. There should be a sample file there already. > > I won't swear to it, but I think that's all that's needed. It's > certainly most of it, and exim's logs are good if there are problems. [snip] Using Exim to relay via a smarthost can be most simply done by 'dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config', selecting the smarthost option and providing the smtp host's name (and port), and editing passwd.client as above. You don't need to manually edit any other config files. If you're only using one smarthost, which is most probably the case for a typical home user, then you can just omit the hostname and enter an '*', which can save you lots of trouble with Exim's various DNS / reverse DNS checks. This was great! now is working thanks to all. regards, -- Guillermo Garron "Linux IS user friendly... It's just selective about who its friends are." (Using FC6, CentOS4.4 and Ubuntu 6.06) http://feeds.feedburner.com/go2linux http://www.go2linux.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Where is debian-non-US
I wrote: > Then for similar reasons we'll need non-JP, non-DE, non-AU... Max Hyre writes: > Good point. Let me amend that to suggest the [non-patent] distribution. > (Aside: ``non-DE''? I thought the EU has so far staved off the > software-patent idiocy.) _Similar_ reasons. Germany, for example, has a licensing law for games (unless it has been repealed recently). -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Howto delete DVD-RW files
Hi, I'm looking for a method to delete individual files in one DVD-RW, without success :)Any suggestion? KDE or command line, I not use GNOME. Thanks! Regards, -- Benjamí http://blog.bitassa.cat .
Re: Help w/failed Sarge install - Dell 8400+SATA
Peter Farley wrote: > --- "Roberto C. Sanchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> You really should be using Etch. > Well, some of us prefer not to live at the bleeding > edge. Sometimes when you have bleeding edge technology you need bleeding edge on your distro to make it work. Hell, recently when I did a hard drive dance on my and my wife's machines I needed to effectively patch XP (game machine, shush all) to see the SATA drive I was installing. Given that Windows /generally/ has better hardware driver support than Linux on the newest hardware if XP needed patching then Sarge might just be a tad too old to take advantage of the SATA drive. Unpleasant, maybe. Dems da facts, yeah. :/ -- Steve Lamb -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Where is debian-non-US
John Hasler wrote: > Max Hyre writes: >> Given the status of software patents, though, it might be time to revive >> [non-US]. > > Then for similar reasons we'll need non-JP, non-DE, non-AU... Good point. Let me amend that to suggest the [non-patent] distribution. (Aside: ``non-DE''? I thought the EU has so far staved off the software-patent idiocy.) -- Best wishes, Max Hyre signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Firestarter VS Shorewall
Andreas Duffner writes: > WebInterface... So you have a Web server running on your firewall. Not good. > ...so you do not *have* to install some software. You wouldn't have to install software to use ssh. > [QOS] would be really cool. I'd like to have it. Linux already has it. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Where is debian-non-US
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/03/07 18:28, Greg Folkert wrote: > On Sat, 2007-03-03 at 13:58 -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: >> On 03/03/07 13:47, Greg Folkert wrote: >>> On Sat, 2007-03-03 at 14:39 -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: On Sat, Mar 03, 2007 at 02:36:14PM -0500, Greg Folkert wrote: > It has been deprecated since Woody became oldstable, or exactly the same > time Sarge became stable. > I don't think it was deprecated. I think it just went away. >>> Symantecs about which is correct. Both mean it is gone. >> Not really. >> >> According to "dict deprecate", the roots of deprecate (de- + >> precari) mean "to avert by prayer". The WordNet definition is >> "express strong disapproval of; deplore". >> >> In computer terminology, deprecated features are those which *still >> exist* but that the "vendor" do not want you to use anymore. > > Effectively, non-US hasn't been updated since Sarge's release... and has > disappeared. > > So, in effect, it is gone and out of availability. Yes, no doubt about that. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFF6idPS9HxQb37XmcRAqcZAKCcGXGgkJKVEciOWrkkpDWGx1EthACfZL4c pGBi2gKCSaiklcnsWkSgK6o= =0DKt -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sign emails with ssh-dsa-key ?
Hi, I created my ssh-dsa keys with the ssh utilities. Can I use these keys for things like mail signing, mail and/or file crypting or anything else ? Or is it a special format which I can use only for ssh ? At least my Thunderbird does not like these keys. Or I did not find the option. Thanks, Andreas -- In war and programming, all is allowed. But war is not about who is right, it is about who is left. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Firestarter VS Shorewall
I use ssh with X11 forwarding to manage the firewall. With firestarter? How? On my side in /etc/ssh/ssh_config (that is for the client) ForwardX11 yes that way you dont have to say ssh -X bla bla on the other side in /etc/ssh/sshd_config (that is for the server) X11Forwarding yes Then I allow via firestarter on the server incoming connections on "the" ssh port. Whatever that is for you. Normally 22. That is is. No other incoming or outgoing ports are needed on the server for the firestarter gui to work that way. Hope it works. *crosses fingers* Andreas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Firestarter VS Shorewall
Jordi wrote: Anyway, please give me opinions about the router by SMC Networks: 7904WBRA2 http://www.smc.com/index.cfm?event=viewProduct&localeCode=EN_USA&pid=1588 First I have no wide knowledge of routers. I only know some. But I can tell you what I think while reading the data sheet. Perhaps it helps, perhpas it is a 2nd sheet. Spell it the other way. 4 Lan ports should be enough, or do you know otherwise. For example for me are 4 ports to few. But I can't buy another... WebInterface, so you do not *have* to install some software. That "Quality-of-Service gives priority to real-time, delay sensitive applications like Voice-over-IP and video-on-demand to improve the user experience." sounds to me like: give some type of connection prority. That would be really cool. I'd like to have it. I do not know if I understand it correct. WPA for wireless is good, because WEP has been broken. DHCP server and NAT are a must have. UPNP is bad. For me. So it should be possible to disable it. (it allows any application on the inside to open ports on the router) In the requirements are browsers from different OSes listed. That is good. So you are not left with a router which *needs* IE. Some things are ok. A lot of things mean nothing to me. I'd *like* to have that think to try the unknown things out. :-) Cu, A. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
what is installed so far?
If there are already tools like 'apt-get' installed, then you can invoke an install yourself and maybe get better information on what's failing: apt-get install console-tools console-common From your log there is no evidence that initramfs-tools failed; that seems to be OK. Just a bit of bad luck I guess- many people have had problems installing 'etch' in the past 3 or 4 weeks. My install was failing and I had to use 'debootstrap' to install the system after the hardware detection - the installer itself just kept creating an incorrect URL and failing. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help w/failed Sarge install - Dell 8400+SATA
--- "Roberto C. Sanchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You really should be using Etch. Well, some of us prefer not to live at the bleeding edge. Regards, Peter Any questions? Get answers on any topic at www.Answers.yahoo.com. Try it now. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Where is debian-non-US
On Sat, 2007-03-03 at 13:58 -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 03/03/07 13:47, Greg Folkert wrote: > > On Sat, 2007-03-03 at 14:39 -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > >> On Sat, Mar 03, 2007 at 02:36:14PM -0500, Greg Folkert wrote: > >>> It has been deprecated since Woody became oldstable, or exactly the same > >>> time Sarge became stable. > >>> > >> I don't think it was deprecated. I think it just went away. > > > > Symantecs about which is correct. Both mean it is gone. > > Not really. > > According to "dict deprecate", the roots of deprecate (de- + > precari) mean "to avert by prayer". The WordNet definition is > "express strong disapproval of; deplore". > > In computer terminology, deprecated features are those which *still > exist* but that the "vendor" do not want you to use anymore. Effectively, non-US hasn't been updated since Sarge's release... and has disappeared. So, in effect, it is gone and out of availability. -- greg, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Novell's Directory Services is a competitive product to Microsoft's Active Directory in much the same way that the Saturn V is a competitive product to those dinky little model rockets that kids light off down at the playfield. -- Thane Walkup -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: thunderbird: how to backup mailbox and restore quickly
[This message has also been posted to linux.debian.user.] In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote: > Yuwen Dai wrote: >> I'd like to backup part of my Inbox, e.g., the emails of last year as my >> Inbox becomes larger and larger. I also want to restore and read the >> backup quick in thunderbird if need. What's your suggestion? > > How about creating a new folder, e.g., Inbox-2005. Then move all mails > to be backed up into this folder. Archive this folder with soumething like > > tar czf Inbox-2005.tgz ./.thunderbird/.../Inbox-2005* > > (The three dots "..." have to be replaced by the exact path) > Afterwards this folder can be removed. In case you need it back, just > stop thunderbird, un-tar the backup archive file, and restart > thunderbird again. The last time I looked, Thunderbird stored mail in ~/.mozilla-thunderbird/[stuff].default/Mail/[account name]/ Each "folder" was a text file in the old, ugly, standard mbox format. It also maintains a Foldername.msf (message summary file?) file that gives kind of an overview of the corresponding mbox, but if mbox.msf is missing it will just read the mbox and generate a new one. You can bust an mbox file into individual messages with "formail -s". You can sort them any which way with procmail. Do something like this while Thunderbird is not running: $ formail -s < mboxfile | procmail recipefile recipefile looks like this: :0: * ^Received: .* myserver.example.net ;.* Dec 2006 /home/me/December :0: * ^Received: .* myserver.example.net ;.* Nov 2006 /home/me/November ... $ Local=".mozilla-thunderbird/bletch.default/Mail/Local Folders" $ mv December November "$Local" Sure beats sorting them in Thunderbird's GUI. You'll have to look at your mail headers to figure out regular expressions to match the messages you want to pick. I'm using the final Received line because the date is more reliable there than in Date: lines sent by random Windoze users. Notice the cumbersome quoting to preserve the space in the directory name. When you start Thunderbird it will create "Local Folders/November.msf" etc. Similarly you can move obsolete mbox files out of ..mozilla-thunderbird and compress or make tarfiles or whatever. Just do it while Thunderbird is not running so it doesn't get confused, and don't forget to remove the corresponding .msf files. They're just mbox files. In a pinch you can open them with mailx and save groups of messages to a new mbox file (or onto the end of an old one) with its "s" command. Good old mailx. I haven't tried this in a while. Test it first, and let me know if it doesn't work any more. Thanks Cameron -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Where is debian-non-US
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/03/07 17:10, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Sat, Mar 03, 2007 at 10:24:31PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> On Sat, Mar 03, 2007 at 01:28:15PM -0600, John Hasler wrote: >>> Andras Lorincz writes: Has something changed recently? Where is debian-non-US? >>> Due to changes in US law it was eliminated some time ago. >> Yet another exaple of enforcing US law to the rest of the world! >> > What are you talking about? The law was a US law dealing with US > citizens or residents or other entities located in the US exporting > munitions. There is no enforcement of the law outisde of the US. In > fact, as I said in another post, I think the law is sensible. It was > the classification of crypto as a munition that was broken. Who cares about fact when you can mindlessly bash the US? > > Regards, > > -Roberto > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFF6gVZS9HxQb37XmcRAvnKAKCGb8+xa888Rv7y2sdVgn+b8EJZmACgov0N sghLHZUtE53hmSD5lDjDpKw= =RsV2 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Where is debian-non-US
Andras Lorincz writes: > Has something changed recently? Where is debian-non-US? I wrote: > Due to changes in US law it was eliminated some time ago. idsvp-helga writes: > Yet another exaple of enforcing US law to the rest of the world! ROFL. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Woody on 486 problem
Juraj writes: > Z88 was computer made by Sir Clive Sinclair with Z8000 CPU. The Z88 was a portable Z80 based computer designed by Sinclair and marketed as the Cambridge Z88. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Woody on 486 problem
On 3-mrt-2007, at 22:16, pobox wrote: On Fri, Mar 02, 2007 at 05:29:08PM +0100, Michelle Konzack wrote: Am 2007-02-22 09:25:14, schrieb Mike McCarty: The Z80 was the sales name but intern it was Z8000. From my mind (maybe wrong): Z88 was computer made by Sir Clive Sinclair with Z8000 CPU. I do sometimes find it hard to distinguish 0 from 8 too:) Ah, memories. I wrote my first basic program on a sinclair zx81 :-) It played russian roulette, sort of graphical ;-) Peter -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: installation problem with initramfs-tools
[This is a follow-up to previous post, attempting to supply more details.] I am trying to install debian on a recently purchased HP machine, with Windows XP pre-installed. An unsucessful attempt to install the "stable" distribution leads me to believe this has a SATA hard-disk. I downloaded the weekly build CD-image from "testing" on March 1, and booted it. The first few steps (hard disk partition, etc) seemed to go all right. Then I tried to install the base system. When asked to choose a kernel, I chose the default linux-image-2.6-486. Shortly afterward I got the message > An error was returned while trying to install the > initramfs-tools package > > Check /bar/log/syslog or virtual console 4 When I typed control-alt-Fr, I got in part: > apt-install: Setting up busybox (1.1.3-4) > apt-install: Setting up libklibc (1.4.34-1) > apt-install: Seting up klibc-utils (1.4.34-1) > apt-install: Setting up initramfs-tools (0.85e) > apt-install: > apt-install: Errors were encountered while processing: > apt-install: console-tools > apt-install: console-common > apt-install: E: > apt-install: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code() > apt-install: > base-installer: error: exiting on error base-installer/kernel/ > filed-package-install I'm not sure, but my monitor may be losing the last character of long lines, so that the message may refer to "failed-package- install", and there may be a number for the error-code. Thanks for any help. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help w/failed Sarge install - Dell 8400+SATA
On Sat, Mar 03, 2007 at 03:21:24PM -0800, Peter Farley wrote: > Hi all, > > Trying to install Sarge to Dell 8400 w/internal SATA > from jigdo'd i386 DVD. Kernel 2.4 fails to see SATA > internal HDD entirely (CD access OK). With kernel 2.6 > using expert26 I can wait to load ata_piix driver > until after CD is accessed, but STILL does not see > SATA drive, only external USB 2.0 IDE HDD. > You really should be using Etch. Regards, -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sanchez http://people.connexer.com/~roberto http://www.connexer.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Help w/failed Sarge install - Dell 8400+SATA
Hi all, Trying to install Sarge to Dell 8400 w/internal SATA from jigdo'd i386 DVD. Kernel 2.4 fails to see SATA internal HDD entirely (CD access OK). With kernel 2.6 using expert26 I can wait to load ata_piix driver until after CD is accessed, but STILL does not see SATA drive, only external USB 2.0 IDE HDD. Web and google searches led me to believe this problem was resolved in current 2.6 kernels, is there still a problem? If so, is there any workaround? (Other than changing BIOS to compatibility mode, I do NOT want to go there, still need WinXP partition on SATA to work for other family use.) Yes, I filed a failed install report to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Also reported complete failure with 2.4 kernel (neither SATA nor USB drives detected). TIA for any help or info you can provide. Peter Be a PS3 game guru. Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Yahoo! Games. http://videogames.yahoo.com/platform?platform=120121 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Where is debian-non-US
On Sat, Mar 03, 2007 at 10:24:31PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Sat, Mar 03, 2007 at 01:28:15PM -0600, John Hasler wrote: > > > > Andras Lorincz writes: > > > Has something changed recently? Where is debian-non-US? > > > > Due to changes in US law it was eliminated some time ago. > > Yet another exaple of enforcing US law to the rest of the world! > What are you talking about? The law was a US law dealing with US citizens or residents or other entities located in the US exporting munitions. There is no enforcement of the law outisde of the US. In fact, as I said in another post, I think the law is sensible. It was the classification of crypto as a munition that was broken. Regards, -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sanchez http://people.connexer.com/~roberto http://www.connexer.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Cannot ping localhost
Bruno Delalleau wrote: Hello debianers! For some reason I can no longer ping localhost: ping -c 3 localhost PING localhost.localdomain (127.0.0.1) 56(84) bytes of data. --- localhost.localdomain ping statistics --- 3 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 2000ms I saw that when I tried to configure my printer using the web interface: http://localhost:631/admin If I use as root: ifconfig lo, I can ping localhost. But the next time I reboot I cannot ping localhost: I have again to become root and use ifcong. So, my question: how do I save the command ifconfig lo in some place so that I don't have to redo the same procedure? Is there a script or a config file? This is the content of my /etc/network/interfaces file: ### etherconf DEBCONF AREA. DO NOT EDIT THIS AREA OR INSERT TEXT BEFORE IT. auto lo eth1 eth2 iface lo inet loopback ### END OF DEBCONF AREA. PLACE YOUR EDITS BELOW; THEY WILL BE PRESERVED. I'm sure that there should be a trick, but which one? I swear that I have tried to RTFM! check to make sure you have : /etc/init.d/networking with these files linking to it: /etc/rc0.d/S35networking /etc/rc6.d/S35networking /etc/rcS.d/S40networking an update-rc networking defaults ,might solve this for you. also, you might want to check out sysv-rc-conf, its a neat little app to configure your init scripts. hth, Jeff -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Where is debian-non-US
On Sat, Mar 03, 2007 at 01:28:15PM -0600, John Hasler wrote: > > Andras Lorincz writes: > > Has something changed recently? Where is debian-non-US? > > Due to changes in US law it was eliminated some time ago. Yet another exaple of enforcing US law to the rest of the world! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Woody on 486 problem
On Fri, Mar 02, 2007 at 05:29:08PM +0100, Michelle Konzack wrote: > Am 2007-02-22 09:25:14, schrieb Mike McCarty: > The Z80 was the sales name but intern it was Z8000. >From my mind (maybe wrong): Z88 was computer made by Sir Clive Sinclair with Z8000 CPU. I do sometimes find it hard to distinguish 0 from 8 too:) Juraj -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Configurable files and functions
On Fri, Mar 02, 2007 at 12:33:11PM -0600, Dave Walker wrote: > [...] > Does such a list exist? > > I have in mind such files as .bashrc and .bash_profile and I am sure > there are many others that I will encounter. > > Is it time for me to buy a reference book containing this info? If so, > which one? I do plan to upgrade to Etch as soon as it is the stable > release, so if a book is available for sarge, would it be useful for > etch? > Most of the configuration files are generally found in ~/.$PROGrc. So Mutt is: ~/.muttrc And Vim is: ~/.vimrv At least from my experience most programs have "dot-rc" files. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CMS for server
On Fri, Mar 02, 2007 at 04:58:13AM -0800, Jordi wrote: > Hello > [...] > I am considering to change to another CMS. The best for me are these: > - Xoops > - Joomla > - e107 > > What do you use in your servers? Have you been using these in your > servers? > > Jordi > I've been working on coding my own actually, although I'm on my last nerve and giving up on it[0]. The designer that helped me make the layout made it image heavy, and therefore it only displays nicely on certain resolutions. I am now working on a new one using just divs and CSS for the HTML, so that it can be more modular. [0] http://digital-haze.net/ (The link on the left that says "Girafarig") -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: static IP
On Fri, Mar 02, 2007 at 08:27:23AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Fri, Mar 02, 2007 at 04:44:41AM -0800, Jordi wrote: > > And Andrei: > > > If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. > > > (Albert Einstein) > > > > That is a very good point. > > When I had time (when will that happen??) I would like to make a site > > for people using Linux not to suicide trying to understand it, as many > > things are much simpler that it seems reading some articles, at least > > for most of the users. > > > > Jordi > > There's a project starting to document Linux for beginners, *real* > beginners. It started its discussions on this mailing list, then moved > to debian-doc. Have a look. You might be able to contribute, even if > you don't have time to do it all. > > -- hendrik > As far as I know, they aren't even talking on debian-doc anymore. The project was moved to a Wiki (I lost the link, if someone can help me out) and from what I remember it's becoming a pretty good source of information. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hard Drive hdb becomes hdf !!!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thomas H. George wrote: > I built a new computer with two hard drives and installed XP Home > Edition on the first drive. The second drive contains my Debian system > - kernel 2.6.17 and Testing. I intended to use disc 1 of a Sarge > installation set as a rescue disk to access hdb and run lilo to convert > this box to a dual boot box. > > boot: rescue=/dev/hdb5 failed. > > During the load > >"Partition Check > hdd > hde: hde1 > hdf: hdf1,hdf2 < hdf5, hdf6, hdf7, hdf8 >" > > so I tried. > > boot: rescue=/dev/hdf5 > > which stopped with > >"Warning: Unable to open and initial console > Kernel Panic: No init found. Try passing an init= option to the > kernel" > > I don't know why the letters changed and what init option I should use. > The hard drives are master and slave on ide 1. There are two > connectors, ide 1 and ide 2 on the motherboard. > > The motherboard is KA3 MVP and the processor is an AMD Athlon 64 3800. > > (Note: Only the Debian Sarge disc knows what's out there. My Knoppix > CD, my bbc-2.1 CD, my Damn Small Linux CD and two Debian boot floppies > all fail.) > > How can I regain access to my Debian system? > I hate to suggest yet another distro for you, but perhaps grml can help you. It's one of the best recovery systems that is widely used by sysadmins. You definately need to boot some linux to reinstall grub or lilo. Joe -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFF6fSJiXBCVWpc5J4RAiKmAJ9jKs3yOWcXbSYwGQBfWOX4R3mYTACgjNpW 8s+oJxOFlX//dFovNpUsAtY= =Z4el -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: XP Blocking CD Boot [SOLVED]
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thomas H. George wrote: >> After XP was installed the system will no longer boot from a CD. Even >> after I entered BIOS setup and changed the first, second and third boot >> choices to CDROM the system still persists in booting from the hard drive. >> >> What can I do to regain control? > > BIOS seemed to have the standard boot options - floppy, cdrom, hard > drive - plus some others - e.g. usb fdd. In fact, there is a scroll bar > and even more options which included my dvd-rw drive. I changed the > boot sequence to floppy, dvd drive, hard drive and can now boot from > CD's. > Glad to hear it. I knew it had to be there somewhere. Joe -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFF6fNDiXBCVWpc5J4RAkwVAJ9+3Sdfth7E7mdLFP61ibyYs/rIiQCgo4jQ fsfN7hmOKLgJETJHq00tFg4= =fi8P -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Growing an HFS file system
I have an HFS+ filesystem (on a powerpc-mac style partition) that I need to grow. parted/gparted seem only able to shrink it. Is there some other tool that's able to grow an HFS+ filesystem. I looked at tools under macosx as well, but macosx is only able to resize an HFS+ partition if it's on a GUID-style partition. Maybe there's a way to switch from powerpc-mac-style partition to guid-partition, then resize, than switch back? Stefan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Where is debian-non-US
On Sat, Mar 03, 2007 at 03:55:56PM -0500, Max Hyre wrote: > John Hasler wrote: > > > Due to changes in US law it was eliminated some time ago. > >The changes removed restrictions preventing citizens of the land of > the free from sending strong crypto out of the country. > Actually, the specific change, IIRC, was the reclassification of strong crypto so that it was no longer considered munition. I think that restrictions on exporting munitions are a good thing. It was the misclassification of strong crypto that was brain dead. Regards, -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sanchez http://people.connexer.com/~roberto http://www.connexer.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Where is debian-non-US
Max Hyre writes: > Given the status of software patents, though, it might be time to revive > [non-US]. Then for similar reasons we'll need non-JP, non-DE, non-AU... -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hard Drive hdb becomes hdf !!!
I built a new computer with two hard drives and installed XP Home Edition on the first drive. The second drive contains my Debian system - kernel 2.6.17 and Testing. I intended to use disc 1 of a Sarge installation set as a rescue disk to access hdb and run lilo to convert this box to a dual boot box. boot: rescue=/dev/hdb5 failed. During the load "Partition Check hdd hde: hde1 hdf: hdf1,hdf2 < hdf5, hdf6, hdf7, hdf8 >" so I tried. boot: rescue=/dev/hdf5 which stopped with "Warning: Unable to open and initial console Kernel Panic: No init found. Try passing an init= option to the kernel" I don't know why the letters changed and what init option I should use. The hard drives are master and slave on ide 1. There are two connectors, ide 1 and ide 2 on the motherboard. The motherboard is KA3 MVP and the processor is an AMD Athlon 64 3800. (Note: Only the Debian Sarge disc knows what's out there. My Knoppix CD, my bbc-2.1 CD, my Damn Small Linux CD and two Debian boot floppies all fail.) How can I regain access to my Debian system? Tom George -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Firestarter VS Shorewall
On Sat, 03 Mar 2007 14:25:12 +0100 Andreas Duffner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So I just want a working firewall. > And firestarter does this job. > I do not know about complex setups with multiple servers. > I am just using one server, client etc at the time. > The firewall shall protect one computer at a time. > And so I use firestarter everywhere. > I use ssh with X11 forwarding to manage the firewall. With firestarter? How? > If I have a pure debian server without gui, it takes > ca. 70 MB extra space to install firestarter + gui bla bla. > Then I can use the firestarter gui to setup. 70MB is *huge* amount of data to install *only* to have a gui. IMHO firestarter is only useful if you already have X installed, though this is a bad idea on a server. > But I do not know, if shorewall is better or worse. Shorewall is very easy to setup. Please see: http://newbiedoc.berlios.de/wiki/Firewall_with_masquerading Regards, Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: a dumb query? pls humor me
On Fri, 02 Mar 2007 16:14:59 -0800 Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Andrei Popescu wrote: > > > On Fri, 02 Mar 2007 10:22:16 -0800 > > Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> Andrei Popescu wrote: > >> > >> > On Thu, 01 Mar 2007 23:44:52 -0800 > >> > Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > > >> >> Paul Johnson wrote: > >> >> > You're confusing socialism with totalitarianism. Please see > >> >> > my previous posts about this. > >> >> > >> >> You're thinking there is a difference is the mistake. > >> > > >> > And there are 50 years of history in the Eastern Europe to prove > >> > it. > >> > >> Totalitarianism and socialism aren't mutually exclusive, but > >> neither is any other economic and political model combination. > >> Correlation without causation. > > > > You believe in coincidences? I don't. And I think socialism *was* > > the cause of totalitarian regimes in Eastern Europe. > > You can claim a duck is really a chicken, but that doesn't stop that > it's really a duck. Wow, you win! I can not possibly beat *this* argument. Regards, Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Where is debian-non-US
John Hasler wrote: > Due to changes in US law it was eliminated some time ago. The changes removed restrictions preventing citizens of the land of the free from sending strong crypto out of the country. Given the status of software patents, though, it might be time to revive it. -- Best wishes, Max Hyre signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: XP Blocking CD Boot - Not So
On Sat, Mar 03, 2007 at 09:26:04AM -0500, Thomas H. George wrote: > I built a new computer with two hard drives and installed XP Home > Edition on the first drive. The second drive contains my Debian system > - kernel 2.6.17 and Testing. I intended to use disc 1 of a Sarge > installation set as a rescue disk to access hdb and run lilo to convert > this box to a dual boot box. > > After XP was installed the system will no longer boot from a CD. Even > after I entered BIOS setup and changed the first, second and third boot > choices to CDROM the system still persists in booting from the hard drive. > > What can I do to regain control? > > Tom George > BIOS seemed to have the standard boot options - floppy, cdrom, hard drive - plus some others - e.g. usb fdd. In fact, there is a scroll bar and even more options which included my dvd-rw drive. I changed the boot sequence to floppy, dvd drive, hard drive and can now boot from CD's. Tom > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)
Steve Lamb wrote: > Paul Johnson wrote: >> You won't know until you go to the transit planning meetings and ask. > > I don't have to go to the transit planning meetings to know what is and > is not possible based simply on the distance invovled and how public > transportation operates. Rather bitch than try and fix it, I see. >> Most people are not suicidal and would rather not dodge Californian >> drivers while lane splitting, > > Uh, nice generalization there. I only *legally* lane-splitted when > speeds dropped below 30mph. That wrongly assumes Californian drivers are safe at any speed. There's a reason you have to actually take the test instead of just exchanging your driver's license when moving to Oregon now. >> Given traffic doesn't move faster than what you say public transit >> does anyway, why not throw a lot more high capacity vehicles in the mix >> to pick up people while they're stuck stopped in traffic anyway? > > Given that you're making that stat up. I lived for 3 years in the LA > metro area and know how often I was going less than 14mph, practically > never. Even when I took my /car/ to work and didn't have access to the > diamond lane I didn't take much longer than with the bike. On those > days I attributed it more to the rain than the volume of traffic. I lived there for five years and very rarely saw traffic get to properly move if I went any deeper towards downtown than San Fernando. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)
Ron Johnson wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 03/02/07 12:05, Paul Johnson wrote: >> Ron Johnson wrote: >>> >>> On 03/01/07 19:16, Paul Johnson wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: > On 03/01/07 15:51, Joe Hart wrote: >> Steve Lamb wrote: >>> Joe Hart wrote: > [snip] > [snip] Transfer to the correct one? Good transit systems work on a radial-grid pattern, not parallel lines. >>> Radial grid? >> >> Grid pattern with some extra crosstown routes running radial from the >> center of population. > > I still don't see how you *radiate* (which is what you do from the > center of a circle/sphere) from the center of a rectangle (which has > parallel lines). Most cities have a grid street layout and have a population center like Downtown. Some cities have historic roads that don't fall into the grid pattern built before the city expanded that far out, frequently leading straight into city center, railroad and light rail lines also frequently do not follow the street grid. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Where is debian-non-US
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/03/07 13:47, Greg Folkert wrote: > On Sat, 2007-03-03 at 14:39 -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: >> On Sat, Mar 03, 2007 at 02:36:14PM -0500, Greg Folkert wrote: >>> It has been deprecated since Woody became oldstable, or exactly the same >>> time Sarge became stable. >>> >> I don't think it was deprecated. I think it just went away. > > Symantecs about which is correct. Both mean it is gone. Not really. According to "dict deprecate", the roots of deprecate (de- + precari) mean "to avert by prayer". The WordNet definition is "express strong disapproval of; deplore". In computer terminology, deprecated features are those which *still exist* but that the "vendor" do not want you to use anymore. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFF6dNWS9HxQb37XmcRAtUBAJ40oWZ6/VFcXLWNWq7nmLLZoRw9twCcDC/n L3tnYMCe53V34SYQcRW0xGQ= =QfX6 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Where is debian-non-US
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/03/07 13:28, John Hasler wrote: > Andras Lorincz writes: >> Has something changed recently? Where is debian-non-US? > > Due to changes in US law it was eliminated some time ago. Specifically, liberalizations made it not necessary. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFF6dEsS9HxQb37XmcRAsqlAKDh56jNNiYdP6KKdsz6zITNA+RCpQCgr6Vl kuU4mlyvXAG0o0CufGbFKR8= =f2G6 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Where is debian-non-US
On Sat, 2007-03-03 at 14:39 -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Sat, Mar 03, 2007 at 02:36:14PM -0500, Greg Folkert wrote: > > > > It has been deprecated since Woody became oldstable, or exactly the same > > time Sarge became stable. > > > I don't think it was deprecated. I think it just went away. Symantecs about which is correct. Both mean it is gone. -- greg, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Novell's Directory Services is a competitive product to Microsoft's Active Directory in much the same way that the Saturn V is a competitive product to those dinky little model rockets that kids light off down at the playfield. -- Thane Walkup -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Icedove does not save unsent messages to the Unsent Messages folder
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/03/07 07:39, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 03/02/07 20:10, Ken Heard wrote: >> When working off line in Icedove messages to be sent later are not saved >> in the Unsent Messages folder of the e-mail account where the messages >> are created, for later sending when back on line. > >> Instead they are saved in the Unsent folder of the Local Folders >> "account". Consequently they are not sent when back on line. > >> As these messages did not appear in my account's Sent folder after I >> went on line, I thought they had disappeared into the ether -- most >> disconcerting. Subsequently I discovered by accident that when I >> selected "Send later" after I composed them they went into the Local >> Folders Unsent folder. > >> I could find no option among Icedove's preferences to have "Send later" >> messages saved in the account's Unsent Messages folder. This bug should >> be fixed. > > Testing your assertion now. Ok, I created the "03/03/07 07:39" email, and then did: File->"Send Later" Icedove put the email in "Local Folders".Unsent, because there *is no* Unsent folder in the "regular" (happens to be an IMAP account). File->"Send Unsent Messages" successfully sent the message *and* put the message in the "regular" Sent folder. My opinion is that this is how Icedove was designed, and they probably won't change it. As far as auto-sending email when you return from off-line, *that* sounds like valid enhancement request (that should go thru Mozilla, not Debian). > >> Ken Heard > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFF6c/4S9HxQb37XmcRAi+TAKDdqp4z4w9FmsTHxtyXNSUboH8/YACePgxq y2+Wv2HwZO9xNbOE8Gq3axk= =RrtC -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Where is debian-non-US
Andras Lorincz writes: > Has something changed recently? Where is debian-non-US? Due to changes in US law it was eliminated some time ago. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Where is debian-non-US
On Sat, Mar 03, 2007 at 02:36:14PM -0500, Greg Folkert wrote: > > It has been deprecated since Woody became oldstable, or exactly the same > time Sarge became stable. > I don't think it was deprecated. I think it just went away. Regards, -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sanchez http://people.connexer.com/~roberto http://www.connexer.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Where is debian-non-US
On Sat, 2007-03-03 at 21:02 +0200, Andras Lorincz wrote: > Hi, > > I'm using testing and since a few days I get errors like > > /debian-non-US/dists/testing/non-US/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz: No > such file or directory. > > Has something changed recently? Where is debian-non-US? It has been deprecated since Woody became oldstable, or exactly the same time Sarge became stable. -- greg, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Novell's Directory Services is a competitive product to Microsoft's Active Directory in much the same way that the Saturn V is a competitive product to those dinky little model rockets that kids light off down at the playfield. -- Thane Walkup -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to install Debian on a diskless NFS client?
Sorry for my late reply. I have been busy with other things so continued my diskless install a couple of weeks after your answer. "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I think what you want to do now is something like this: > mount -t proc none /tftpboot/client-dir > chroot /tftpboot/client-dir bin/bash > > Then do basic tasks like; > passwd - set a root password (and perhaps adduser a new user) > /etc/hostname - set up the hosts name > > [...] OK, this is the second way to do the install that I have asked in my first posting. I did do this now and succeeded. So thanks for your answer. However, I think the installer should be modified to not only support booting via DHCP/TFTP, but also installing on NFS mounted directories instead of local disks only. I see several reason why I think this would be better than doing the install on the server using debootsrap: * Installation from the usual install would be easier * The installation as you suggested requires that the server must also be running Linux and be of the same architecture. Otherwise, you couldn't mount /proc and chroot into the directory created by debootsrap. Also, I think the required modifications in the installer would probably not that large. urs -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT]
On Fri, Mar 02, 2007 at 03:24:46PM -0500, Celejar wrote: > On Fri, 2 Mar 2007 10:37:55 -0800 > Raquel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > [snip] > > > -- > > Raquel > > > > The care of human life and happiness, and not their destruction, is > > the first and only legitimate object of good government. > > --Thomas Jefferson > > Straightforward enough at first glance, but what happens when the 'care > of [some] human life and happiness' requires the destruction of [other] > 'human life and happiness'? That's when government gtes difficult. -- hendrik -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Where is debian-non-US
Hi, I'm using testing and since a few days I get errors like /debian-non-US/dists/testing/non-US/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz: No such file or directory. Has something changed recently? Where is debian-non-US? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CMS for server
On Sat, Mar 03, 2007 at 04:47:00AM -0800, Jordi wrote: > Thanks friends > > I though my message was not going to be published. > If someone thinks it is offtopic sorry, just don't answer me. > But as sometimes I see messages talking about winning money sending > emails or enlarging their penis, I thought that 'cos many of you run > servers and thus maybe you know good cms or will be good for you to > compare them, I could get good advice on this. > > Just answer or ignore me, please. I didn't wanted to polemize. Your question was on topic (presuming you're looking for a CMS on a Debian system -- or else that you are a Debian user). It's the messages talking about winning money sending emails or enlarging their penis that are off-topic. -- hendrik -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: trouble connecting to some wifi access points
On Sat, Mar 03, 2007 at 10:45:49AM -0800, tom arnall wrote: > I am having trouble connecting to one of the wifi APs in my neighborhood. > Following is my connection script. > > sudo iwconfig ath0 essid "linksys" > sudo iwconfig ath0 ap 00:18:39:20:29:CA > sudo dhclient ath0 I usually do 'sudo /sbin/ifup ath0' > sudo iwlist ath0 scan > sudo ping xspace.com > > Following is the output when I run the script: > > sit0: unknown hardware address type 776 > wifi0: unknown hardware address type 801 > sit0: unknown hardware address type 776 > wifi0: unknown hardware address type 801 > Listening on LPF/ath0/00:0d:88:bb:51:91 > Sending on LPF/ath0/00:0d:88:bb:51:91 > Sending on Socket/fallback/fallback-net > DHCPREQUEST on ath0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 > DHCPREQUEST on ath0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 > DHCPDISCOVER on ath0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 4 > DHCPOFFER from 192.168.1.1 > DHCPREQUEST on ath0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 > DHCPACK from 192.168.1.1 > bound to 192.168.1.109 -- renewal in 43200 seconds. > ath0 Scan completed : >Cell 01 - Address: 00:18:39:20:29:CA > ESSID:"linksys" > Mode:Master > Frequency:2.437 GHz (Channel 6) > Quality=34/94 Signal level=-61 dBm Noise level=-95 > dBm > Encryption key:off > Bit Rates:1 Mb/s; 2 Mb/s; 5.5 Mb/s; 11 Mb/s; 6 Mb/s > 9 Mb/s; 12 Mb/s; 18 Mb/s; 24 Mb/s; 36 > Mb/s > 48 Mb/s; 54 Mb/s > Extra:bcn_int=100 > This looks fine. what is 'sudo /sbin/route' show? -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal |mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/| | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keyserver: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Two identical usb networking cards problem
On Sat, Mar 03, 2007 at 05:27:04PM +0100, David Fokkema wrote: > On Sat, 2007-03-03 at 16:13 +, Wackojacko wrote: > > David Fokkema wrote: > > > On Sat, 2007-03-03 at 15:37 +, Wackojacko wrote: > > >> David Fokkema wrote: > > >> > > >>> Still leaves me with one question: how do I figure out which > > >>> daemon/script brings up my interfaces at what time? > > >>> > > >>> Thanks, > > >>> > > >>> David > > >>> > > >>> > > >> /etc/init.d/networking is the script. The order of the scripts is > > >> controlled by the order in which they appear in the relevant run level > > >> directory /etc/rc(runlevel).d. > > >> > > >> The SXXscript 'starts' the script KXXscript stops it. These links are > > >> run in numerical order of the XX. > > > > > > This script only runs 'ifup -a', as far as I can tell. Ifup won't log > > > which devices it upped. Furthermore, 'ifup -a' never ups my usb nets > > > eth1 and eth2 when I ssh in, down eth1 and eth2 and then issue 'ifup > > > -a'. However, one of them is always up when my system finishes booting. > > > How can that be? > > > > > > > > Hmm! > > > > from man ifup > > > > '-a, --all If given to ifup, affect all interfaces marked auto. > > > > Interfaces are brought up in the order in which they are defined in > >/etc/network/interfaces.' > > > > man interfaces > > > > 'Lines beginning with the word "auto" are used to identify the physical > > interfaces to be brought up when ifup is run with the -a option. > > (This option is used by the system boot scripts.) Physical interface > > names should follow the word "auto" on the same line. There can be > > multiple "auto" stanzas. ifup brings the named interfaces up in the > > order listed. > > > > Lines beginning with "allow-" are used to identify interfaces that > > should be brought up automatically by various subsytems. This may be > > done using a command such as "ifup --allow=hotplug eth0 eth1", which > > will only bring up eth0 or eth1 if it is listed in an "allow-hotplug" > > line. Note that "allow-auto" and "auto" are synonyms.' > > > > So ifup -a will only bring up all the interfaces marked 'auto' as you > > have discovered. > > > > allow-hotplug passes the task of bringing up of the interface to udev > > (as this now incorporates hotplug) so /etc/init.d/udev is the script > > that starts the deamon. > > > > As to why this doesn't work and the 'auto' does, its probably something > > to do with the udev rules used to identify the interfaces. I don't have > > usb interfaces and am not a udev expert so I don't know how much more > > help I can be :) > > I have the same feeling. Reading through the documentation I believe I > get a feeling for how it works, but looking through the logs (there > _are_ udev logs and I modified net.agent to log the interface it is > operating on) no devices are brought up by udev (unless I yank it out > and insert it again in my usb hub). So... what happens? It is irritating > to discover that linux does not log everything (as I always tell windows > users who're tracking down fathomable problems). > I have a vague impression that this may be related to the initrd. the kernel boots with the initrd and has script that do things like modprobe things related to say networking device then init is called and the runlevels do their thing. IIRC the initrd stuff is not logged, so that would explain why there is not messages and since this happends before the runlevels, you cant change the outcome. This is a bit of wild speculation as this is a fuzzy area in my understanding. Any further clarifictions welcomed. Udev always seems to be voodoo to use mortals. -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal |mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/| | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keyserver: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | signature.asc Description: Digital signature
trouble connecting to some wifi access points
I am having trouble connecting to one of the wifi APs in my neighborhood. Following is my connection script. sudo iwconfig ath0 essid "linksys" sudo iwconfig ath0 ap 00:18:39:20:29:CA sudo dhclient ath0 sudo iwlist ath0 scan sudo ping xspace.com Following is the output when I run the script: sit0: unknown hardware address type 776 wifi0: unknown hardware address type 801 sit0: unknown hardware address type 776 wifi0: unknown hardware address type 801 Listening on LPF/ath0/00:0d:88:bb:51:91 Sending on LPF/ath0/00:0d:88:bb:51:91 Sending on Socket/fallback/fallback-net DHCPREQUEST on ath0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 DHCPREQUEST on ath0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 DHCPDISCOVER on ath0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 4 DHCPOFFER from 192.168.1.1 DHCPREQUEST on ath0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 DHCPACK from 192.168.1.1 bound to 192.168.1.109 -- renewal in 43200 seconds. ath0 Scan completed : Cell 01 - Address: 00:18:39:20:29:CA ESSID:"linksys" Mode:Master Frequency:2.437 GHz (Channel 6) Quality=34/94 Signal level=-61 dBm Noise level=-95 dBm Encryption key:off Bit Rates:1 Mb/s; 2 Mb/s; 5.5 Mb/s; 11 Mb/s; 6 Mb/s 9 Mb/s; 12 Mb/s; 18 Mb/s; 24 Mb/s; 36 Mb/s 48 Mb/s; 54 Mb/s Extra:bcn_int=100 But when i try to use the seeming connection, there is nothing. For most of the APs to which I attempt to connect, everything is fine, but in a few cases like this one I can't connect. Thanks very much in advance, tom arnall north spit, ca usa -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Wired and wireless PCMCIA LAN cards: configuration problems
On Sat, Mar 03, 2007 at 10:04:26AM +, Ken Heard wrote: > Consequently, for the duration I wanted to replace the aforementioned > D-Link card with a wireless PCMCIA card (SMC model 2853W 802.11g, 2.4 > gH, 54 mbps). Unfortunately, I have so far been unable to connect my > laptop to the wireless LAN in the building. What I did to try to > establish a connection follows. > > Iwconfig returned the following: > > lono wireless extensions. > > irda0 no wireless extensions. > > eth0 NOT READY! ESSID:off/any > Mode:Managed Channel:0 Access Point: Not-Associated > Tx-Power=31 dBm Sensitivity=0/200 > Retry min limit:0 RTS thr=0 B Fragment thr=0 B > Encryption key:ABCD-E123-44 Security mode:restricted > Link Quality:0 Signal level:0 Noise level:0 > Rx invalid nwid:0 Rx invalid crypt:0 Rx invalid frag:0 > Tx excessive retries:0 Invalid misc:0 Missed beacon:0 > > sit0 no wireless extensions. This looks like the card is recognized but I've never used a G card to know if everything is ok. I've only used a orinoco (B card). > > Examination of the messages which scrolled by while booting up revealed > the following, which by the way did not appear in the syslog file, or > show in dmesg: > > Configuring network interfaces ... /etc/network/interfaces:10: > misplaced option > ifup: couldn't read interfaces file "/etc/network/interfaces" > > Running "ifup eth0" returns the same, with the exception of the text > preceding the elipsis. > > The file /etc/network/interfaces reads as follows: > > 1 # This file describes the network interfaces available on your system > 2 # and how to activate them. For more information, see interfaces(5). > 3 > 4 # The loopback network interface > 5 auto lo > 6 iface lo inet loopback > 7 > 8 # The primary network interface > 9 allow-hotplug eth0 > 10 address 127.0.0.1 > 11 netmask 255.0.0.0 Line 10 and 11 are not needed, and some bug report is needed, when possible. > 12 iface eth0 inet dhcp > 13 > 14 > 15 auto eth0 > > When I commented out line 10, "ifup eth0" returned the same as above, > with number 11 replacing 10. When I commented out both lines 10 and 11, > "ifup eth0" tried to ping to the network. I did this test while > unconnected; I am sure that if I had been connected the pings would have > received a positive response. > As pinnedped said: some gui tools do strange thing with the /etc/network/interfaces. So using the command line tools is the only reliable way, at least in my experiece. ifconfig, iwconfig, ifup,ifdown and the other iw-tools are what i use untill I find a GUI that works. > With the D-Link card installed ifconfig returns the following: > > eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:50:BA:78:00:6D > inet6 addr: fe80::250:baff:fe78:6d/64 Scope:Link > UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 > RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 > TX packets:33 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 > collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 > RX bytes:0 (0.0 b) TX bytes:6344 (6.1 KiB) > Interrupt:10 Base address:0x300 > This looks fine. > In any event, I can get the D-Link card to connect, even though I have > to open to my user before installing it. On the other hand I cannot > connect with either of the two wireless cards I tried. > > The priority task is to get a wireless connection. I would certainly > appreciate all the help I can get to be able to do so. I would also > like to be able to switch from one card to the other without difficulty, > by obviating the problem mentioned in the proceeding paragraph. You might want to try some 'testing' while we folks find a solution: 1) see if you can ask the other person to try your wifi card in his/her machine to see if that person can get a good result: the card is not defective and works with a linux 2) see if the wifi owner would turn off secutiry (ASCII key) for a small test to see if that help: the card works but the secuirty is not entered correctly HTH > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal |mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/| | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keyserver: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: OT: Here we go again.
On Sat, Mar 03, 2007 at 05:22:21PM +, s. keeling wrote: > > > > Right, and the section that you quoted included this phrase: "under > > any circumstances, to initiate force against another human being" > > > > To me, that disallows self-defense. If I get punched in the face and I > > As in, _someone initiates force_ against you ... > Right. Curt already explained initiate was meant in the legal sense. > > decide to realiate, then I have initiated force against my attacker. > > Retaliation is not initiation. You are entirely within your rights to > defend yourself. You'd be a fool not to. > I *completely* agree with you here. Again, I misunderstood the original passage. > > Now, that is in response to his attack and so is in self-defense. > > However, I still have to initiate [something]. > > You may be initiating the courage to stand up against your attacker, > but that's something else altogether. > And that thinking "initiating the response to the attacker" is what lead me to believe that the "initiate" meant in the original quotation *included* self-defense. > > idea of my political views. Can you cut me a break for an honest > > mistake? > > Not when you continue to make them. Self-defence is not initiation of > force. > Continue? What other mistakes have I made? I am not claiming that I have not made mistakes. However, misunderstanding something quite so badly is not a mistake I think I have made previously, or even often enough to call it a continuing pattern. > IFF English isn't your mother tongue (I don't know), I'd happily cut It is, along with Spanish. > you slack for that. If so, this is merely a language based > misunderstanding. My expertise is sorely lacking in foreign language > skills, and I envy those (such as you?) who manage as well as they do > in this often ridiculous language. Many twenty-somethings who were > born into it do far worse these days. > Well, my misunderstanding was based confusing the common language use of initiate with the legal use of initiate. From the context it was impossible to distinguish which was the intended reading. This is a problem that exists in many languages besides English. Regards, -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sanchez http://people.connexer.com/~roberto http://www.connexer.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Firestarter VS Shorewall
Thanks Andreas. I agree with most that you said, as I am very pragmatic on my needs. I think I will buy the router I said, wich looks a very strong router from security point of view, and plus install firestarter and some other utility if I need. And things sometimes are not so complex. For example, in Xubuntu you can install all in graphical mode, start the server through Terminal, and then, if you want to save more resources, it can be done through an option. So you exit the graphical environment and the server continues working, with all resources avaliable. To return to graphical GUI, just another command. So no need to masochism typing dozens of comands to do what you can graphicaly, at least when you have your pc at hand like me. Yes I know most people may say this is not profesional, and I am missing learning lots of shell comands, but I know enough, and I already have to have so many things in mind, so this would be a RESOURCE LEAK for my brain hahahaha!! Anyway, please give me opinions about the router by SMC Networks: 7904WBRA2 http://www.smc.com/index.cfm?event=viewProduct&localeCode=EN_USA&pid=1588 Thanks Jordi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [SOLVED] linux-image-2.6-486 vs. linux-image -2.6-
Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 06:18:13AM -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 10:44:33AM -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Hi, Is there a place where the difference between these latest kernel binary images is documented, other than looking thru the config files or the descriptions of the packages. When I install Etch on my machine from the daily built, it pulls in -486. With that and grub I can boot into a USB disk. But when I install linux-image-2.6-k7 (my processor) the boot will fail, because he cannot find the root device, meaning the initrd failed somehow. The issue is the use of an USB harddrive. yes, this is more than trivial at this point, I think. Linux-image-4-486 has no problems when used on a USB disk partition on which Etch is installed with the daily-built d-i. I always boots right. However... When I install the same linux-image-4-486 on an older partition that now runs 2.6.20-ck1 and only refers to the USB disk from /etc/fstab, the boot will fail 50% of the time because he just doesn't wait long enough for the device to show up and changing mkinitrd.conf with DELAY=10 and running update-initramfs -u did not change anything. Also when I use yaird instead there is never any problem exept for the poor behavior of yaird: see http://wiki.debian.org/USB-HD_Boot_Full_Debian?highlight=%28USB%29 and: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2006/05/msg01557.html I'm sorry I'm very confused as to what exactly you are trying to do here. Are you using /boot from the hard-disk and then using / on USB or what? A I have a PATA disk (80GB) in a USB enclosure: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817145657 The problem exists in booting a Debian stock kernel *either* from the USB disk itself (it shows up as /dev/sda and I have 6 partitions on it) *or* from another HD with the USB disk referenced in /etc/fstab. If you boot from a USB disk partition with a stock kernel he cannot find the root device. When you boot with a stock kernel from another HD and have the USB disk referenced then he reports a bad superblock on the device. But it is a mixed bag: I get those errors with a fullblown Sid system ( i.e. everything installed including X). I do *not* get those errors when I do a minimum Etch install to the USB disk, dist-upgrade to Sid and install another stock kernel. Neither do I have problems with my own compiled 2.6.20-ck1 kernel + yaird as initrd. (But yaird has other problems: I don't know how to upgrade the system with that as initrd) *That* was George Hein's solution. I would prefer to run stock kernels, but under all conditions they have to "work" with the USB disk, it seems. But see this: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=401916 But the patch fits but gets a PANIC! So do this: In you favorite editor edit /usr/share/initramfs-tools/scripts/local and under line 9 add: echo "Self-imposed wait of 15s..." /bin/sleep 15.0 save and run update-initramfs -u Viola! Now you can run any Debian stock kernel on a USB disk. It will show the message, wait 15secs (actually 10 would do) and merrily load any USB disk files. I.ve updated http://wiki.debian.org/USB-HD_Boot_Full_Debian?highlight=%28USB%29 to reflect the fact that you can install and run a Debian Stock Kernel from USB disk but as of this date you must change the initrd image generated with initramfs-tools by changing the local script to extend the default wait. Also as of date the 'rootdelay' option does not work. In the future maybe it will. Hugo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: Here we go again.
Roberto C. Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 07:57:26PM -0500, Curt Howland wrote: > > > > Mr. Sanchez, it is now very clear one of the reasons these off-topic > > postings have been going on so long: You are utterly ignorant of the > > reality of politics. > > > > Just because I consider it wrong to coerce others, in no way effects > > the right of any being to effectively and violently defend itself > > against those who _DO_ choose to use coercion. > > > > Assuming a peaceful man is a pacifist is irrational. Didn't you ever > > watch _Kung Fu_ as a kid? > > Right, and the section that you quoted included this phrase: "under > any circumstances, to initiate force against another human being" > > To me, that disallows self-defense. If I get punched in the face and I As in, _someone initiates force_ against you ... > decide to realiate, then I have initiated force against my attacker. Retaliation is not initiation. You are entirely within your rights to defend yourself. You'd be a fool not to. > Now, that is in response to his attack and so is in self-defense. > However, I still have to initiate [something]. You may be initiating the courage to stand up against your attacker, but that's something else altogether. > idea of my political views. Can you cut me a break for an honest > mistake? Not when you continue to make them. Self-defence is not initiation of force. IFF English isn't your mother tongue (I don't know), I'd happily cut you slack for that. If so, this is merely a language based misunderstanding. My expertise is sorely lacking in foreign language skills, and I envy those (such as you?) who manage as well as they do in this often ridiculous language. Many twenty-somethings who were born into it do far worse these days. -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)http://www.spots.ab.ca/~keeling Linux Counter #80292 - -http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.htmlPlease, don't Cc: me. Spammers! http://www.spots.ab.ca/~keeling/emails.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: where does kmail keep its mail files?
andy wrote: >> The only other suggestion I had from the KDE list when I wanted to move >> mail, was to look in /home/user.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail . That's a bit >> hit and miss, but you might find it there. >> >> Nigel. >> >> >> > Thanks Nigel - you hit the nail on the head. > > Much obliged > > A If you are thinking about backing up data as well as moving mail data to another system you will also need to grab the config file: ~/.kde/share/config/kmailrc regards Jan -- ** Do NOT use the reply-to address. You'll end up in the trash can ** Mail me at: jan A.T schledermann D0T org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Two identical usb networking cards problem
On Sat, 2007-03-03 at 18:02 +0100, Franck Joncourt wrote: > On Sat, Mar 03, 2007 at 04:34:37PM +, Wackojacko wrote: > > David Fokkema wrote: > > >It is irritating > > >to discover that linux does not log everything (as I always tell windows > > >users who're tracking down fathomable problems). > > > > > >David > > > > > > > > Just had a quick look at /etc/udev/ and it may be worth uncommenting the > > log lines in some or all of the files here. > > > > e.g. the last line of hotplug.rules has an additional logging function, > > it may help you track down what happens when you insert the device which > > is not happening on boot? That's helpful! I edited udev.conf to enable logging, but this might even be better! I'll try that, thanks! > Maybe you can try with the following rule, if the above > solution does not work : > > SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", RUN+="/bin/sh -c 'echo FOUND NETWORK > INTERFACE %k >/dev/console'" > > I did not test it :p! But it might help. Nice! If the above does not work, I'll try this one, thanks! David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Grub: menu character sizes
Hi, Grub's menu uses 80x25 character sizes on its menu. I would like to change that to something smaller. Trying 'terminal --lines=50' does nothing. Anybody gotten grub to put smaller characters on its menu? Hugo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Two identical usb networking cards problem
On Sat, Mar 03, 2007 at 04:34:37PM +, Wackojacko wrote: > David Fokkema wrote: > >It is irritating > >to discover that linux does not log everything (as I always tell windows > >users who're tracking down fathomable problems). > > > >David > > > > > Just had a quick look at /etc/udev/ and it may be worth uncommenting the > log lines in some or all of the files here. > > e.g. the last line of hotplug.rules has an additional logging function, > it may help you track down what happens when you insert the device which > is not happening on boot? > Maybe you can try with the following rule, if the above solution does not work : SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", RUN+="/bin/sh -c 'echo FOUND NETWORK INTERFACE %k >/dev/console'" I did not test it :p! But it might help. -- Franck Joncourt http://www.debian.org http://smhteam.info/wiki/ GPG server : pgpkeys.mit.edu Fingerprint : C10E D1D0 EF70 0A2A CACF 9A3C C490 534E 75C0 89FE signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: What's the best way to backup to dvd?
On Sat, 2007-03-03 at 13:56 +0100, Joe Hart wrote: > After spending some time searching, I have to agree with you. It seems > that it is legal to install deCSS, it is not illegal to distribute it, > which means that whichever website you get it from is breaking the law, > but you are not by downloading it. It seems to be very much like the > films and movies here. > > According to what I have read, it is a first amendment issue, which of > course only applies in the US. It's a bit like finders keepers. You > find the software, you can keep it, but you're not aloud to lose it. The first test of the DMCA here in the U.S. was the 2600 case. 2600 is a hacker magazine that published DeCSS code on its website and was sued by the MPAA. Unfortunately, the First Amendment defense failed to protect the magazine. The judge ruled that while computer code is clearly "speech," it is not "protected speech" because of its nature. Despite the First Amendment, all speech is not created equal. Commercial speech, for example, is subject to extra restrictions so that a company can't (legally) promote a product as a cure for cancer if it is not, in fact, a cure for cancer. But it does strike me as odd that in the U.S., it is legal to explain how to make a bomb, or legal to claim that Holocaust never happened, but it is illegal to explain how to watch an encrypted DVD on a device that doesn't have CSS built-in. As you said, weird laws. European countries have a different approach to the issue of speech, so I was curious about how the copyright cartels are managing to press their agenda in light of that approach. It seems to me they are just as successful there as they have been here. But then as Steve Jobs noted, if the Europeans really wanted to get rid of DRM and have interoperability between audio playback devices, they have that power. After all, three of the big four music distributors are European-owned (UMG is owned by French company Vivendi, Sony/BMG is jointly owned by Sony of Japan and BMG of Germany, and EMI is British [1]). I confess I get a little tired of Europeans blaming the U.S. and the RIAA for the situation when the companies controlling the purse strings are mostly in Europe's yard. Follow the money, and you'll see who is *really* benefitting from draconian DRM and laws designed to protect it. > It doesn't really matter to me because I feel that it's my right to use > my computer however I see fit as long as I don't affect other computers > in the process. Playing media has no effect on other computers, unless > of course I'm streaming it. I agree. [1] The fourth, Warner Music, is no longer a part of American company Time Warner. It's owned by Edgar Bronfman, a Canadian, and his investors. -- Michael M. ++ Portland, OR ++ USA "No live organism can continue for long to exist sanely under conditions of absolute reality; even larks and katydids are supposed, by some, to dream." --S. Jackson -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Two identical usb networking cards problem
David Fokkema wrote: It is irritating to discover that linux does not log everything (as I always tell windows users who're tracking down fathomable problems). David Just had a quick look at /etc/udev/ and it may be worth uncommenting the log lines in some or all of the files here. e.g. the last line of hotplug.rules has an additional logging function, it may help you track down what happens when you insert the device which is not happening on boot? HTH Wackojacko -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Two identical usb networking cards problem
On Sat, 2007-03-03 at 16:13 +, Wackojacko wrote: > David Fokkema wrote: > > On Sat, 2007-03-03 at 15:37 +, Wackojacko wrote: > >> David Fokkema wrote: > >> > >>> Still leaves me with one question: how do I figure out which > >>> daemon/script brings up my interfaces at what time? > >>> > >>> Thanks, > >>> > >>> David > >>> > >>> > >> /etc/init.d/networking is the script. The order of the scripts is > >> controlled by the order in which they appear in the relevant run level > >> directory /etc/rc(runlevel).d. > >> > >> The SXXscript 'starts' the script KXXscript stops it. These links are > >> run in numerical order of the XX. > > > > This script only runs 'ifup -a', as far as I can tell. Ifup won't log > > which devices it upped. Furthermore, 'ifup -a' never ups my usb nets > > eth1 and eth2 when I ssh in, down eth1 and eth2 and then issue 'ifup > > -a'. However, one of them is always up when my system finishes booting. > > How can that be? > > > > > Hmm! > > from man ifup > > '-a, --all If given to ifup, affect all interfaces marked auto. > > Interfaces are brought up in the order in which they are defined in >/etc/network/interfaces.' > > man interfaces > > 'Lines beginning with the word "auto" are used to identify the physical > interfaces to be brought up when ifup is run with the -a option. > (This option is used by the system boot scripts.) Physical interface > names should follow the word "auto" on the same line. There can be > multiple "auto" stanzas. ifup brings the named interfaces up in the > order listed. > > Lines beginning with "allow-" are used to identify interfaces that > should be brought up automatically by various subsytems. This may be > done using a command such as "ifup --allow=hotplug eth0 eth1", which > will only bring up eth0 or eth1 if it is listed in an "allow-hotplug" > line. Note that "allow-auto" and "auto" are synonyms.' > > So ifup -a will only bring up all the interfaces marked 'auto' as you > have discovered. > > allow-hotplug passes the task of bringing up of the interface to udev > (as this now incorporates hotplug) so /etc/init.d/udev is the script > that starts the deamon. > > As to why this doesn't work and the 'auto' does, its probably something > to do with the udev rules used to identify the interfaces. I don't have > usb interfaces and am not a udev expert so I don't know how much more > help I can be :) I have the same feeling. Reading through the documentation I believe I get a feeling for how it works, but looking through the logs (there _are_ udev logs and I modified net.agent to log the interface it is operating on) no devices are brought up by udev (unless I yank it out and insert it again in my usb hub). So... what happens? It is irritating to discover that linux does not log everything (as I always tell windows users who're tracking down fathomable problems). > Regards > > Wackojacko Thanks! David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A very simple documentation framework
On Sat, 03 Mar 2007 03:36:01 -0500, cga2000 wrote: >> Check out AsciiDoc. >> If you don't believe that everything behind it was just plain text, check >> out the >> >> AsciiDoc Markup Syntax Quick Summary >> http://xpt.sourceforge.net/techdocs/nix/asciidoc-syn/ascs01-AsciiDocMarkupSyntaxQuickSummary/ > > Actually, in my setup at least, the "Dark Background" document looks > absolutely great in a text browser such as elinks. Have you check it out in GUI browsers as well, for the embedded images? > Maybe another concern of mine is that LaTeX and DocBook are technologies > that won't go away any time soon.. And this guarantees that both the > time I spend rewriting my .txt documents in either of these, and the > time spent acquiring some fluency using them is not entirely wasted. > > Right now, my preference would probably be DocBook over LaTeX since it > clearly separates content and formatting... Seems that I didn't make it quite clear. The above "AsciiDoc Markup Syntax Quick Summary" shows how simple it is to produce stunning effects via just plain text. In fact the source (for making the html or whatever) looks nothing like any markup language but plain text. You almost don't need to learn anything, well I mean the markup language -- just learn how to format your text content. Further, you can produce html or DocBook/LaTeX source from AsciiDoc, and even *nix man pages. All in all, check out AsciiDoc http://www.methods.co.nz/asciidoc/ and see if its simple formatting fits all your need for your simple documentation framework, before submerging into something *much* more complicated. If it doesn't seem to meet all your need, I recommend to go directly to Latex. Because the documents that you've seen on xpt.sourceforge.net and AsciiDoc sites are actually produced by DocBook. On xpt.sourceforge.net the separated pages with TOC is produced by DocBook (from AsciiDoc source). The single file versions are produced directly by AsciiDoc. Check out the difference at http://xpt.sourceforge.net/techdocs/nix/asciidoc-usg/ascu03-SourceCodeHighlighting/ar01s04.html#id2497513 and compare with the "single file version" link from the bottom of the page. If you do need Latex, then maybe the All You Need to Know about Latex http://xpt.sourceforge.net/techdocs/language/latex/ might give you somewhat easier start. That is in fact what all I need to know when writing my master thesis. HTH -- Tong (remove underscore(s) to reply) http://xpt.sf.net/techdocs/ http://xpt.sf.net/tools/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Two identical usb networking cards problem
David Fokkema wrote: On Sat, 2007-03-03 at 15:37 +, Wackojacko wrote: David Fokkema wrote: Still leaves me with one question: how do I figure out which daemon/script brings up my interfaces at what time? Thanks, David /etc/init.d/networking is the script. The order of the scripts is controlled by the order in which they appear in the relevant run level directory /etc/rc(runlevel).d. The SXXscript 'starts' the script KXXscript stops it. These links are run in numerical order of the XX. This script only runs 'ifup -a', as far as I can tell. Ifup won't log which devices it upped. Furthermore, 'ifup -a' never ups my usb nets eth1 and eth2 when I ssh in, down eth1 and eth2 and then issue 'ifup -a'. However, one of them is always up when my system finishes booting. How can that be? Hmm! from man ifup '-a, --all If given to ifup, affect all interfaces marked auto. Interfaces are brought up in the order in which they are defined in /etc/network/interfaces.' man interfaces 'Lines beginning with the word "auto" are used to identify the physical interfaces to be brought up when ifup is run with the -a option. (This option is used by the system boot scripts.) Physical interface names should follow the word "auto" on the same line. There can be multiple "auto" stanzas. ifup brings the named interfaces up in the order listed. Lines beginning with "allow-" are used to identify interfaces that should be brought up automatically by various subsytems. This may be done using a command such as "ifup --allow=hotplug eth0 eth1", which will only bring up eth0 or eth1 if it is listed in an "allow-hotplug" line. Note that "allow-auto" and "auto" are synonyms.' So ifup -a will only bring up all the interfaces marked 'auto' as you have discovered. allow-hotplug passes the task of bringing up of the interface to udev (as this now incorporates hotplug) so /etc/init.d/udev is the script that starts the deamon. As to why this doesn't work and the 'auto' does, its probably something to do with the udev rules used to identify the interfaces. I don't have usb interfaces and am not a udev expert so I don't know how much more help I can be :) Regards Wackojacko -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Firestarter VS Shorewall
Peter writes: > Or, if you like ease of use (great web based GUI)... I do not want a Web server running on my router. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Configurable files and functions
On Fri, 2007-03-02 at 12:33 -0600, Dave Walker wrote:
> I am looking for an explanatory list of configuration files used in
> sarge 3.1. The information I am looking for would give the location
> (path), function (what the system uses it for), and whether the file
> can be successfully changed by editing.
>
> Does such a list exist?
>
> I have in mind such files as .bashrc and .bash_profile and I am sure
> there are many others that I will encounter.
>
> Is it time for me to buy a reference book containing this info? If so,
> which one? I do plan to upgrade to Etch as soon as it is the stable
> release, so if a book is available for sarge, would it be useful for
> etch?
There's no comprehensive list of configuration files because there are
17,000 packages available for Debian, many of which have their own
configurations, some of which over-ride others in certain cases. No one
person is going to use or need to know about configurations for software
he's never going to install.
If you want a solid, comprehensive reference for common, standard
commands and configurations, check out "Unix in a Nutshell, Fourth
Edition" by Arnold Robbins (O'Reilly). It's not Debian-specific, but
has a lot of information useful for anyone running Unix variants
including Linux. It has chapters on the various shells and their
specific features, overviews of package management (apt, rpm, Mac OS X,
etc.), usage summaries of vim & emacs, sed & awk, and a handy
alphabetical summary of commands for GNU/Linux, Solaris, OS X, and Java.
And more.
Another very useful book for learning the basics is "A Practical Guide
to Linux Commands, Editors, and Shell Programming" by Mark G. Sobel
(Prentice Hall), which is more of a tutorial-based type book than a
reference work. But it does have a great glossary and a command
reference, which provides a detailed overview of utilities sorted by
function ("Utilities That Display & Manipulate Files," "Network
Utilities," etc.). It gives arguments, options and usage examples for
each of these. That's in addition to more in-depth coverage of shells,
editors, and shell programming functions.
Finally, "The Debian System: Concepts & Techniques" by Martin F. Krafft
(Open Source Press/No Starch Press) is an excellent overview of how
Debian works. Yes, some of it is a little dated at this point, but
Krafft includes some information about features new to Etch even though
it was published after Sarge's release, and for most of the material,
not much has changed. Since it really does focus on "concepts" and
"techniques" rather than, say, how to configure XF86 (which has been
replaced by xorg in Etch), most of what he explains carries over to Etch
and beyond. It's really a "here's how Debian does things" kind of book
and will provide all but the most advanced/experienced users with a
solid understanding of Debian fundamentals.
IMO, either the first or second book, plus the third, will teach you a
great deal about Unix/Linux in general and Debian specifically, so that
you won't miss not having a comprehensive list of config files. You'll
know where to look for them and how to configure them if you spend time
with these books. You'll certainly learn all about .bashrc
& .bash_profile, and much more.
A really nice feature for the newbie documentation project many have
been discussing on this list would be "essential Debian bookshelf"
recommendations.
--
Michael M. ++ Portland, OR ++ USA
"No live organism can continue for long to exist sanely under conditions
of absolute reality; even larks and katydids are supposed, by some, to
dream." --S. Jackson
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Re: Two identical usb networking cards problem
On Sat, 2007-03-03 at 15:37 +, Wackojacko wrote: > David Fokkema wrote: > > > > > Still leaves me with one question: how do I figure out which > > daemon/script brings up my interfaces at what time? > > > > Thanks, > > > > David > > > > > /etc/init.d/networking is the script. The order of the scripts is > controlled by the order in which they appear in the relevant run level > directory /etc/rc(runlevel).d. > > The SXXscript 'starts' the script KXXscript stops it. These links are > run in numerical order of the XX. This script only runs 'ifup -a', as far as I can tell. Ifup won't log which devices it upped. Furthermore, 'ifup -a' never ups my usb nets eth1 and eth2 when I ssh in, down eth1 and eth2 and then issue 'ifup -a'. However, one of them is always up when my system finishes booting. How can that be? David > > HTH > > Wackojacko > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Two identical usb networking cards problem
David Fokkema wrote: Still leaves me with one question: how do I figure out which daemon/script brings up my interfaces at what time? Thanks, David /etc/init.d/networking is the script. The order of the scripts is controlled by the order in which they appear in the relevant run level directory /etc/rc(runlevel).d. The SXXscript 'starts' the script KXXscript stops it. These links are run in numerical order of the XX. HTH Wackojacko -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Two identical usb networking cards problem
On Sat, 2007-03-03 at 14:54 +0100, Franck Joncourt wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 03, 2007 at 02:19:20PM +0100, David Fokkema wrote:
> > Hi group,
>
> Hi,
>
>
> Take a look here :
>
> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=403706
Thanks! That was insightful.
> The following commands are your friends :
> # ip link
> or
> # ifconfig -a
I fail to see what the former can tell me other than what netstat -ie
can, for example...
> If you can see an interface names as ethX_rename or something like that,
> it means udev mess it up. You can fix it, by writing udev rules. This is
> the way I do to ensure my interfaces get the right name.
Nope, everythings ok there.
> By the way, you can see the name supply by udev :
>
> <<<
> sid:/var/lib# cat /etc/udev/rules.d/z25_persistent-net.rules
> # This file was automatically generated by the /lib/udev/write_net_rules
> # program, probably run by the persistent-net-generator.rules rules
> # file.
> #
> # You can modify it, as long as you keep each rule on a single line.
>
> # Firewire device 0011d8b05f6c (ohci1394)
> SUBSYSTEM=="net", DRIVERS=="?*",
> ATTRS{address}=="00:11:d8:00:00:b0:5f:6c", NAME="eth0"
>
> # PCI device 0x10de:0x0373 (forcedeth)
> #SUBSYSTEM=="net", DRIVERS=="?*", ATTRS{address}=="00:17:31:a4:0b:4e",
> NAME="eth1"
>
> # PCI device 0x10de:0x0373 (forcedeth)
> #SUBSYSTEM=="net", DRIVERS=="?*", ATTRS{address}=="00:17:31:a3:ff:31",
> NAME="eth2"
>
> # PCI device 0x1113:0x1211 (8139too)
> #SUBSYSTEM=="net", DRIVERS=="?*", ATTRS{address}=="00:10:b5:e1:5c:e5",
> NAME="eth3"
>
> # PCI device 0x10ec:0x8139 (8139too)
> #SUBSYSTEM=="net", DRIVERS=="?*", ATTRS{address}=="00:08:a1:96:82:35",
> NAME="eth4"
> <
Yes, I have a similar file.
>
> Hope it helps.
>
It does, thank you. I will add 'auto' lines next to the 'allow-hotplug'
lines in my config.
Still leaves me with one question: how do I figure out which
daemon/script brings up my interfaces at what time?
Thanks,
David
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Re: XP Blocking CD Boot
Joe Hart wrote: > Thomas H. George wrote: > > I built a new computer with two hard drives and installed XP Home > > Edition on the first drive. The second drive contains my Debian system > > - kernel 2.6.17 and Testing. I intended to use disc 1 of a Sarge > > installation set as a rescue disk to access hdb and run lilo to convert > > this box to a dual boot box. > > > After XP was installed the system will no longer boot from a CD. Even > > after I entered BIOS setup and changed the first, second and third boot > > choices to CDROM the system still persists in booting from the hard > drive. > > > What can I do to regain control? > > > Tom George > > > It has to be your BIOS. XP cannot change how your computer boots other > than modifying the MBR of the primary HD, which _could_ cause your > computer not to see your Debian, but you still should be able to boot > from CD. Unless your BIOS is messed up. True, however if the CD is bad (scratched ?) , the bios might have some hidden, automatic fallback which makes it boot from the first hard-drive. Make sure the CD is still bootable, e.g. by trying it on some other machine. Also, check the cables on your CD-drive. -- Håkon Alstadheim http://alstadheim.priv.no/hakon/ spamtrap: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- 1 hit & you are out -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Firestarter VS Shorewall
On 3-mrt-2007, at 14:52, John Hasler wrote: Jordi writes: To have a good hardware firewall buy a good router-switch or a specific hardware device. To have a good hardware firewall buy a cheap used pc, install Linux on it, and configure it as a router and firewall. -- Or, if you like ease of use (great web based GUI) combined with powerfull functions out of the box, commit adultery and install m0n0wall (based on freebsd). Keeps me happy. I use an old pII with 64MB and 3 3com fast ethernet cards, wan up & download and heavy traffic between lan & DMZ runs flawless with the processor never getting above 30%. Peter -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thomas H. George wrote: > I built a new computer with two hard drives and installed XP Home > Edition on the first drive. The second drive contains my Debian system > - kernel 2.6.17 and Testing. I intended to use disc 1 of a Sarge > installation set as a rescue disk to access hdb and run lilo to convert > this box to a dual boot box. > > After XP was installed the system will no longer boot from a CD. Even > after I entered BIOS setup and changed the first, second and third boot > choices to CDROM the system still persists in booting from the hard drive. > > What can I do to regain control? > > Tom George > > It has to be your BIOS. XP cannot change how your computer boots other than modifying the MBR of the primary HD, which _could_ cause your computer not to see your Debian, but you still should be able to boot from CD. Unless your BIOS is messed up. Another solution would be to go to http://goodbye-windows.com/ and run the Debian.exe file that is available there. It will install a Debain Etch system for you (Net install). Joe - -- Registerd Linux user #443289 at http://counter.li.org/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFF6Ym9iXBCVWpc5J4RAtaHAJsHr75Tlne/9PnMNHF3qC9cO6HCiwCgmOtN iqzY+UNmwenJjaajS/B/D60= =ruc4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
XP Blocking CD Boot
I built a new computer with two hard drives and installed XP Home Edition on the first drive. The second drive contains my Debian system - kernel 2.6.17 and Testing. I intended to use disc 1 of a Sarge installation set as a rescue disk to access hdb and run lilo to convert this box to a dual boot box. After XP was installed the system will no longer boot from a CD. Even after I entered BIOS setup and changed the first, second and third boot choices to CDROM the system still persists in booting from the hard drive. What can I do to regain control? Tom George -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Firestarter VS Shorewall
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Re: Firestarter VS Shorewall
On Sat, Mar 03, 2007 at 08:08:36AM +, David Hart wrote: > > If you need to manage a half-dozen zones the chances are that you'll > be doing packet filtering on specialized hardware so shorewall will > be of no use. > Well, chances are you don't know what you are talking about. Please go look at some of the shorewall mailing list archives. People implement some very complex configurations with shorewall. Besides, shorewall also allows you to do some neat things like have a layer-2 bridge that also does layer-3 filtering very easily. Doing layer-3 filtering in a layer-2 device is technically a violation of the network model, but is very handy nonetheless. Regards, -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sanchez http://people.connexer.com/~roberto http://www.connexer.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Two identical usb networking cards problem
On Sat, Mar 03, 2007 at 02:19:20PM +0100, David Fokkema wrote:
> Hi group,
Hi,
> I installed debian etch on an NSLU2. It has an internal network card
> which is brought up automatically at boot time. I have two additional
> usb network cards attached to a hub which are identical. Only one of
> them is brought up at boot time. Which one, that is (well, seems to be,
> anyway) completely random, :-/
>
> My /etc/network/interfaces:
> # This file describes the network interfaces available on your system
> # and how to activate them. For more information, see interfaces(5).
>
> # The loopback network interface
> auto lo
> iface lo inet loopback
>
> # The primary network interface
> allow-hotplug eth0
> iface eth0 inet static
> address 192.168.20.10
> netmask 255.255.255.0
>
> allow-hotplug eth1
> iface eth1 inet static
> address 192.168.31.10
> netmask 255.255.255.0
>
> allow-hotplug eth2
> iface eth2 inet dhcp
> pre-up ethtool -s eth2 autoneg off speed 10
>
>
> If I change the allow-hotplug to auto, my problem is solved.
> My question: how can I find out which daemon/script is bringing up my
> two out of three interfaces and how can I make sure it brings up all
> three (without resorting to auto lines, apparently allow-hotplug
> should
> work).
>
Take a look here :
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=403706
The following commands are your friends :
# ip link
or
# ifconfig -a
If you can see an interface names as ethX_rename or something like that,
it means udev mess it up. You can fix it, by writing udev rules. This is
the way I do to ensure my interfaces get the right name.
By the way, you can see the name supply by udev :
<<<
sid:/var/lib# cat /etc/udev/rules.d/z25_persistent-net.rules
# This file was automatically generated by the /lib/udev/write_net_rules
# program, probably run by the persistent-net-generator.rules rules
# file.
#
# You can modify it, as long as you keep each rule on a single line.
# Firewire device 0011d8b05f6c (ohci1394)
SUBSYSTEM=="net", DRIVERS=="?*",
ATTRS{address}=="00:11:d8:00:00:b0:5f:6c", NAME="eth0"
# PCI device 0x10de:0x0373 (forcedeth)
#SUBSYSTEM=="net", DRIVERS=="?*", ATTRS{address}=="00:17:31:a4:0b:4e",
NAME="eth1"
# PCI device 0x10de:0x0373 (forcedeth)
#SUBSYSTEM=="net", DRIVERS=="?*", ATTRS{address}=="00:17:31:a3:ff:31",
NAME="eth2"
# PCI device 0x1113:0x1211 (8139too)
#SUBSYSTEM=="net", DRIVERS=="?*", ATTRS{address}=="00:10:b5:e1:5c:e5",
NAME="eth3"
# PCI device 0x10ec:0x8139 (8139too)
#SUBSYSTEM=="net", DRIVERS=="?*", ATTRS{address}=="00:08:a1:96:82:35",
NAME="eth4"
<
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Re: Firestarter VS Shorewall
Jordi wrote: I saw two good firewalls: - Firestarter wich is easy - Shorewall wich seems versatile Wich is best for a single server pc? Does the complexity of shorewall worth the effort or is firestarter as good as shorewall? I can only tell about firestarter. Perhaps it helps a bit. First, about the "understanding what is happening"-argument: I do not want to know about the lowest level of my firewall. I do not programm in assembler, I use C++ or C#. With an assembler I would have "a better understand what is happening". I do not need it. I want a solution. I do not write my own operating system out of the same reason. So I just want a working firewall. And firestarter does this job. I do not know about complex setups with multiple servers. I am just using one server, client etc at the time. The firewall shall protect one computer at a time. And so I use firestarter everywhere. I use ssh with X11 forwarding to manage the firewall. If I have a pure debian server without gui, it takes ca. 70 MB extra space to install firestarter + gui bla bla. Then I can use the firestarter gui to setup. It shows the active connections it it has a mode, where it stops all outgoing connections per default (this has to be activated: one click) etc Before you use this option, you should enable ssh :-) It is just great. But I do not know, if shorewall is better or worse. Cu, Andreas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
