Re: Re: sempre acabem tornant a debian
Hola katalanet. Que saps qui soc?
Re: Mysql réplication
Le vendredi 2 mars 2007 21:47, Vincent Bernat a écrit : OoO Vers la fin de l'après-midi du vendredi 02 mars 2007, vers 16:08, Bulot Grégory [EMAIL PROTECTED] disait: Slave_IO_Running: No Slave_SQL_Running: No Tu as fait start slave ? ooops start slave; ERROR 1200 (HY000): The server is not configured as slave; fix in config file or with CHANGE MASTER TO pourtant dans le /etc/mysql/my.cnf server-id = 2 log-bin = /var/log/mysql/mysql-bin.log master-host = trinity.ecsm.fr master-user = xxx master-password = master-port = 3306 master-connect-retry = 10
Re: Mysql réplication
OoO En cette matinée ensoleillée du samedi 03 mars 2007, vers 09:47, Bulot Grégory [EMAIL PROTECTED] disait: Tu as fait start slave ? ooops start slave; ERROR 1200 (HY000): The server is not configured as slave; fix in config file or with CHANGE MASTER TO Tu n'as pas utilisé change master to ? Regarde la doc de MySQL, c'est expliqué pas à pas. -- BOFH excuse #15: temporary routing anomoly -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianFrench Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mysql réplication
Le samedi 3 mars 2007 11:05, Vincent Bernat a écrit : OoO En cette matinée ensoleillée du samedi 03 mars 2007, vers 09:47, Bulot Grégory [EMAIL PROTECTED] disait: Tu as fait start slave ? ooops start slave; ERROR 1200 (HY000): The server is not configured as slave; fix in config file or with CHANGE MASTER TO Tu n'as pas utilisé change master to ? Regarde la doc de MySQL, c'est expliqué pas à pas. si (comme dans http://randomspark.wordpress.com/2006/09/18/mysql-replication-setting-up-the-slave/ slave stop; Query OK, 0 rows affected, 1 warning (0.00 sec) mysql CHANGE MASTER TO MASTER_HOST='192.168.1.33', MASTER_USER='x', MASTER_PASSWORD='xxx', MASTER_LOG_FILE='mysql-bin.000147' ; Query OK, 0 rows affected (0.00 sec) mysql slave start ; ERROR 1200 (HY000): The server is not configured as slave; fix in config file or with CHANGE MASTER TO
Re: vidéos flashplayer
Le vendredi 02 mars 2007 à 19:11 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : Et que donne lsmod (pour voir les modules chargés) ? Personne n'a une idée du son manquant mais avec l'image sous Mozilla et Flashplayer ? antoine Il semble que ce soit un problème avec alsa, non ? Avez-vous alsa-base, alsa-utils et alsa-oss d'installés ? Essayez de lancer mozilla avec aoss et voir si vous avez du son. Vous utilisez quel serveur de son ? esd ? Si oui installez libesd-alsa0 pour voir si cela change quelque chose. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianFrench Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: vidéos flashplayer
Le Thu, 1 Mar 2007 16:19:30 +0100 [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit: Je suis sous Debian Sarge régulièrement updatée. Ma carte son est une Trident Je tente de lire et écouter des vidéos flashplayer (.SWF) sous FireFox ou Mozilla. Mais j'ai bien l'image (film) mais pas le son. ** apt-get install alsamixergui ?? *** Fait et réponse : # alsamixergui [entrée] alsamixer failed : function_snd_ctl open failed for default : no such device ! Problème d'installation audio ? Tu dois utiliser le système OSS des nboyaux 2.4. Il te faut installer les drivers alsa. La dernière version de flash passe par alsa au lieu de passer par OSS. François Boisson -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianFrench Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mysql réplication
OoO Pendant le temps de midi du samedi 03 mars 2007, vers 12:51, Bulot Grégory [EMAIL PROTECTED] disait: Tu n'as pas utilisé change master to ? Regarde la doc de MySQL, c'est expliqué pas à pas. si (comme dans http://randomspark.wordpress.com/2006/09/18/mysql-replication-setting-up-the-slave/ slave stop; Query OK, 0 rows affected, 1 warning (0.00 sec) mysql CHANGE MASTER TO MASTER_HOST='192.168.1.33', MASTER_USER='x', MASTER_PASSWORD='xxx', MASTER_LOG_FILE='mysql-bin.000147' ; Query OK, 0 rows affected (0.00 sec) mysql slave start ; ERROR 1200 (HY000): The server is not configured as slave; fix in config file or with CHANGE MASTER TO P'tet que ça ne fonctionne pas entre des versions différentes de MySQL ? -- Write clearly - don't be too clever. - The Elements of Programming Style (Kernighan Plauger) -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianFrench Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
en-tête de fichier
Bonjour, Où sont stockés les informations telles que nom de fichier, date de création, date de motif, etc ... En dehors de l'index du volume y a t'il une en-tête de fichier, un peut comme pour les paquets TCP/IP, si oui comme la lire, c'est en hexa ? Merci Ptilou
Debian French localisation team completes the translation of debconf screens
(crossposted to several mailing lists. Please respect the Reply-To field) As of March 3rd 2007, all packages in Debian unstable that have translatable debconf templates are translated into French [1]. This is the result of a continuous effort in the last years and particularly the last 4.5 years, since the upload of po-debconf back in September 2002 by Denis Barbier which enabled translators to use gettext to handle debconf translations. This achievement, combined with the translation of the Debian Installer, is the guarantee that even a complete installation of a Debian system with all possible packages, when run in French, will only show French-speaking prompts to the user. That effort is also ongoing for several other languages [2], thanks to the commitment of the numerous contributors from the Debian internationalisation community [3]. All thanks and credits for the achievement of the French localisation are due to the French translators [5] as well as all Debian package maintainers who have regularly fixed the dozens of bug reports sent by translators over the years. A last effort will now target the 100% mark for packages in testing. The current status, as of [4], is 99.2%. Links: [1] http://www.debian.org/intl/l10n/po-debconf/fr [2] http://www.debian.org/intl/l10n/po-debconf/rank [3] http://lists.debian.org/debian-i18n/ [4] http://alioth.debian.org/~thuriaux-guest/tmp/testing.stats [5] Contributors of the French translations: Adam Cécile (Le_Vert) Alexis Sukrieh Aurelien Jarno Aurelien Ricard BUIRA Etienne Cédric Favry Christian Perrier Christophe lincoln Christophe Masson Clément Stenac Cyril Brulebois Cyril Martin Daniel Déchelotte DELACOUR Guillaume Denis Barbier Emmanuel le Chevoir Eric Madesclair Florentin Duneau Florent Usseil Frédéric Bothamy Frédéric Schütz Frédéric Zulian Gabriel Laurent Gaetan CRAHAY Gregory Colpart Guilhelm Panaget Guillaume Nault Ivan Buresi Jean-Baka Domelevo-Entfellner Jean-Christophe Champarnaud Jean-Christophe Dubacq Jean-Luc Coulon Jean-Marc Chaton Jérémie Corbier Jose Luis Tallon Julien Louis Julien Rosal Julien Valroff Laszlo Laurence Colombet Laurent Pelecq Le Mignant pierre Ludovic Drolez Ludovic Rousseau Marco Presi Martin Quinson Michel Grentzinger Mohammed Adnène Trojette Nicolas Bertolissio Olivier Gauwin Olivier Trichet Philippe Batailler Pierre Machard Rémi Pannequin Séverine lombardo Simon Paillard Steve Langasek Steve Petruzzello Sylvain Archenault Sylvain LE GALL Thomas Capacci Thomas Huriaux Thomas Morin Thomas Viehmann Valéry Perrin Xavier Luthi Yannick Roehlly Yves Rütschlé Special credit to Steve Langasek who corrected this announcement -- signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Debian French localisation team completes the translation of debconf screens
Salut, Tout d'abord, félicitation à tous pour ce travail titanesque. Mais je ne peux m'empêcher de penser qu'il est étrange de nous annoncer que debconf est complètement traduit en français par un message en anglais! Manifestement il reste un petit effort de traduction à fournir. ;- Amicalement, Gaëtan -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianFrench Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Où trouver un backport de librsvg pour Debian sarge ? sinon pensez vous qu'il est difficile d'en créer un (avec toutes les dépendances...) ?
Le 01/03/07, François Boisson[EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : Le Tue, 27 Feb 2007 10:08:55 +0100 KLEIN Stéphane [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit: Bonjour, j'ai besoin de librsvg pour un serveur en production sous Debian Sarge. J'ai cherché le package sur le site backports.org mais je ne l'ai pas trouvé. J'aimerais savoir si vous avez une idée d'un autre site sur lequel je pourrais le trouver ? Bon, je t'ai fait un backport de librsvg pour la sarge, tu trouveras les paquets sur http://boisson.homeip.net/sarge/librsvg/ Il y a librsvg2-dev_2.14.4-2_i386.deb librsvg2-2_2.14.4-2_i386.deb librsvg2-common_2.14.4-2_i386.deb librsvg2-bin_2.14.4-2_i386.deb Attention, j'ai du modifier un appel d'une fonction g_try_malloc0 pour rester compatible avec sarge. A priori c'est bon mais bon... Merci beaucoup.
Re: [HS] FAI avec nummero vert (Numeris/V90)
Michelle Konzack a écrit : Bonjour, Je ne suis pas beacoup à la maison et je ne veux pas charger la facture de mes clients, copains ou amies avec un facture communications Internet. free.fr mon FAI en France facturer 2,9 ¢/minute. :-( Il y a quelqun ici que connesser un FAI avec un numero vert, meme si je pas un Address fix? Note.: J'ai que la possibilité du payer avec la Carte VISA international, sur facture ou prepaye. Cette chose avec GSM/EDGE/UMTS/GlobelSat est a peu tro chere (actuellement envirunement 2000 €/mois)... Bonjour Michelle Regarde peut-être chez nordnet , des forfaits en RTC ou RNIS . J'ai cherché un peu par curiosité et je n'ai pas vu chez eux que l'on devait toujours appelé du même numéro ( à vérifier quand même , je ne suis pas aboné chez eux ) , mais leur règlement interdit les connexion multiples ( donc simultanées mais de différents numéros ) : ** Chaque client dispose d'un accès personnalisé et par conséquent il doit être seul à l'utiliser. Dans ces conditions, il n’est autorisé qu’une seule connexion à la fois par Identifiant. Sauf dérogation écrite et préalable, il est donc interdit d'établir plusieurs connexions simultanées avec les mêmes Identifiants. On définit la connexion simultanée comme, soit l'utilisation des mêmes éléments d'identification sur plusieurs lignes distinctes au même moment et/ou à des intervalles de temps se chevauchant pour établir la connexion d'au moins deux (2) ordinateurs, soit l'utilisation de plus de un (1) canal B Numéris, soit l'utilisation de toute technique présente ou à venir permettant de lancer plus d'une connexion physique à la fois. Toute consommation constatée dans ce cadre entraînera la facturation à l'heure de toutes les communications pendant la durée de l'infraction constatée en plus du forfait applicable. Le tarif appliqué sera de 2,70 euros l'heure, toute heure commencée étant due. De plus, NordNet pourra suspendre Votre accès au Service. *** À creuser donc . . . Michel -- Tuxophiles, bien sûr que nous sommes tuxophiles, et winophobes en plus. Mais il ne faut pas confondre tuxophilie et tuxo-intégrisme, l'amalgame est fait beaucoup trop rapidement par les winophiles-tuxophobes . -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianFrench Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: en-tête de fichier
philippe L wrote: Bonjour, Où sont stockés les informations telles que nom de fichier, date de création, date de motif, etc ... dans le répertoire où se trouve le fichier. chaque répertoire est un fichier qui contient les infos sur les fichiers qui sont dans ce répertoire. dans le cas d'un lien symbolique, le nom du fichier destination est aussi présent. cf en bas. c'est d'ailleurs ça qui fait qu'un repertoire avec trop de fichiers est plus lent à visiter sauf si le filesystem est optimisé pour cela (utilisation d'alho de parsing plus évolués qu'un recherche linéaire). En dehors de l'index du volume y a t'il une en-tête de fichier, un peut comme pour les paquets TCP/IP, si oui comme la lire, c'est en hexa ? il faut utiliser les commandes qui permettent d'y accéder. par exemple 'stat'. $ ls dubois ls: dubois: No such file or directory $ touch dubois; stat dubois File: `dubois' Size: 0 Blocks: 0 IO Block: 4096 regular empty file Device: 301h/769d Inode: 392471 Links: 1 Access: (0644/-rw-r--r--) Uid: ( 5678/ patate) Gid: ( 1234/ legume) Access: 2007-03-03 19:59:32.0 +0100 Modify: 2007-03-03 19:59:32.0 +0100 Change: 2007-03-03 19:59:32.0 +0100 $ chmod 700 dubois $ echo reponds moi dubois $ stat dubois File: `dubois' Size: 12 Blocks: 2 IO Block: 4096 regular file Device: 301h/769d Inode: 392471 Links: 1 Access: (0700/-rwx--) Uid: ( 5678/ patate) Gid: ( 1234/ legume) Access: 2007-03-03 19:59:32.0 +0100 Modify: 2007-03-03 19:59:53.0 +0100 Change: 2007-03-03 19:59:53.0 +0100 ce qui a changé: les permissions (à cause du chmod), la taille, le Modiy et le Change (à cause du echo). $ cat dubois reponds moi $ stat dubois File: `dubois' Size: 12 Blocks: 2 IO Block: 4096 regular file Device: 301h/769d Inode: 392471 Links: 1 Access: (0700/-rwx--) Uid: ( 5678/ patate) Gid: ( 1234/ legume) Access: 2007-03-03 20:02:12.0 +0100 Modify: 2007-03-03 19:59:53.0 +0100 Change: 2007-03-03 19:59:53.0 +0100 là, le Access (le temps, pas les permissions) a changé à cause du cat. $ ln -s dubois dufer $ stat dufer File: `dufer' - `dubois' Size: 6 Blocks: 0 IO Block: 4096 symbolic link Device: 301h/769d Inode: 392472 Links: 1 Access: (0777/lrwxrwxrwx) Uid: ( 5678/ patate) Gid: ( 1234/ legume) Access: 2007-03-03 20:06:14.0 +0100 Modify: 2007-03-03 20:06:11.0 +0100 Change: 2007-03-03 20:06:11.0 +0100 -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianFrench Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: make-kpkg
On Fri, Mar 02, 2007 at 09:43:41PM +0100, Vincent Bernat wrote: Voici grossièrement comme se passe la séquence de boot : - le boot loader est chargé par le BIOS (c'est lui qui est dans le MBR, pas le noyau !) et il se débrouille pour se charger entièrement - il charge le noyau avec l'aide du BIOS (donc il peut le lire sur le disque) - le noyau prend la main sur le BIOS et il n'est donc plus possible de lire le disque à cette étape - la partition racine est montée et l'utilitaire init est exécuté Pour monter la partition racine, il faut pouvoir lire le disque, le noyau doit donc contenir de quoi lire le disque (support des disques) et le système de fichier qui est dessus. Si tu as un chipset Intel, il faut donc coller le support de celui-ci en dur dans le noyau (pas en module). On rencontre là le premier problème qui concerne les distributions : comment faire un noyau qui fonctionne partout ? Avec mon scénario, il faut tout mettre en dur dans le noyau, ce qui fait un noyau énorme et plein de choses inutiles chargées en mémoire. C'est là qu'intervient l'initrd. Au lieu de monter la racine, on va monter une image disque qui a été chargée en mémoire par le boot loader en même temps que le noyau. Cette image disque va détecter le matos présent sur ta machine et charger ce qu'il faut pour pouvoir monter ensuite la véritable racine. À ce niveau, si tu compiles ton noyau toi même, tu n'as absolument pas besoin d'initrd, y compris avec des disques SCSI. Il te suffit dans ce cas de compiler le support du SCSI, des disques SCSI et de ta carte SCSI en dur dans le noyau. Sans oublier le système de fichiers. Il existe cependant des cas où tu dois quand même utiliser un initrd. Par exemple, si ta partition racine est chiffrée, l'initrd se chargera de la déchiffrer car le noyau ne sait pas le faire tout seul. Ok, ça s'éclaircit gentillement. Je vais encore relire une ou deux fois et ça devrait jouer! Merci beaucoup! Cédric -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianFrench Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [HS] FAI avec nummero vert (Numeris/V90)
Michelle Konzack, vendredi 2 mars 2007, 17:31:06 CET Bonjour, 'soir, Je ne suis pas beacoup à la maison et je ne veux pas charger la facture de mes clients, copains ou amies avec un facture communications Internet. free.fr mon FAI en France facturer 2,9 ¢/minute. :-( Il y a quelqun ici que connesser un FAI avec un numero vert, meme si je pas un Address fix? Note.: J'ai que la possibilité du payer avec la Carte VISA international, sur facture ou prepaye. Cette chose avec GSM/EDGE/UMTS/GlobelSat est a peu tro chere (actuellement envirunement 2000 €/mois)... Toutes les offres RTC qui ne sont pas « à la minute » ou « sans engagement » devraient aller, non ? Je vois mal comment une offre RTC forfaitée (x heures pour y euros) pourrait en plus faire payer la communication. Bon, c'est vrai que les sites ne sont pas très clairs : le RTC n'a plus la cote et ils préfèrent vendre de l'ADSL... -- Sylvain Sauvage
Re: en-t?te de fichier
-[ Sat, Mar 03, 2007 at 04:07:34PM +0100, philippe L ] Où sont stockés les informations telles que nom de fichier, date de création, date de motif, etc ... Cela dépend du système de fichier. Traditionnellement sous Unix : dans l'inode. L'inode est un bloc qui contient ce genre d'informations ainsi que des pointeurs vers les blocs de donnée du fichier. Et oui, c'est codé en représentation compacte (binaire). Il y a un appel système pour lire ces informations, mappé sur la fonction stat() de la libC, et par ricochet accessible dans la plupart des langages de programmation jusqu'au shell : man 1 stat man 2 stat man 3 stat man perlfunc - chercher stat etc... Note: l'inode ne contient pas le nom du fichier. Ca peut surprendre, mais les fichiers n'ont pas de nom - ce sont les entrées dans les répertoires qui ont des noms (Un répertoire, c'est une liste de noms et de pointeurs vers les inodes). -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianFrench Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
listes de diffusions et adresses !bang
bonjour, est il possible de souscrire à certaines listes de diffusion via une adresse !bang et particulièrement duf slt bernard -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianFrench Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian French localisation team completes the translation of debconf screens
Quoting Gaëtan PERRIER ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Salut, Tout d'abord, félicitation à tous pour ce travail titanesque. Mais je ne peux m'empêcher de penser qu'il est étrange de nous annoncer que debconf est complètement traduit en français par un message en anglais! Manifestement il reste un petit effort de traduction à fournir. ;- First, congratulations to everybody for this giant work. I just can't refrain thinking that it is strange to announce that debconf is entirely translated to french with a mail written in English. Apparently, one small bit translation effort has still to be done. (apologies in advance to native English speakers for this probably awful translation) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Debian French localisation team completes the translation of debconf screens
Gaëtan PERRIER [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mais je ne peux m'empêcher de penser qu'il est étrange de nous annoncer que debconf est complètement traduit en français par un message en anglais! Manifestement il reste un petit effort de traduction à fournir. ;- Mais les anglos ne comprennent pas messages en français, et c'est anglais surtout içi ! Donc, on demand les annonces en anglais, même à propos de projets où la plupart des devs et utilisateurs sont francophones ;-) Rigolement, -- MJR/slef My Opinion Only: see http://people.debian.org/~mjr/ Please follow http://www.uk.debian.org/MailingLists/#codeofconduct
Programmation en langage C
- kernel-package Non. - libc6-dev - libc6.1-dbg - gcc-4.0 ou gcc-4.1 Plutôt build-essential, comme je l'ai indiqué. - anjunta Question de goût. Pour moi, le meilleur IDE est emacs. Je ne connais pas le langage C, l'utilisation du langage (les librairies) risque-t-il de perturber mon système (bureau,applications,serviceau réseau). Le mieux est de ne pas compiler en étant root :-) Merci si l'un de vous connais un manuel progressif et pédagogique, Dans quel but utiliser C ? Si c'est parce que le prof l'a dit, c'est à lui de suggérer un manuel. Si c'est pour apprendre la programmation, commencer par C est une drôle d'idée. Python, Haskell, Java ou bien d'autres seraient sans doute plus adaptés. Lorsque j'essaye d'installer les paquets ci-dessus par la commande apt-get install , j'ai un message me dissant que les trois paquets libc6-dev, libc6.1-dbg, gcc-4.0 n'existent pas. J'ai été voir sur le site de Debian, les deux premiers paquets existent dans la section stable, de mémoire j'ai vu le paquet gcc mais en version 3.3. Merci pour votre aide. Alex PADOLY -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianFrench Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianFrench Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: en-tête de fichier
On Sat, Mar 03, 2007 at 07:12:52PM +0100, mouss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote a message of 80 lines which said: Où sont stockés les informations telles que nom de fichier, date de création, date de motif, etc ... dans le répertoire où se trouve le fichier. Non (pensez aux liens durs). Cf. les explications de [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianFrench Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: listes de diffusions et adresses !bang
On Sat, Mar 03, 2007 at 08:02:43PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote a message of 17 lines which said: est il possible de souscrire à certaines listes de diffusion via une adresse !bang et particulièrement duf De telles adresses n'ont guère de chance d'être reconnues de nos jours, le routage du courrier sur Internet se faisant désormais entièrement via le DNS. La vraie question est pourquoi en avoir une ? -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianFrench Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: listes de diffusions et adresses !bang
Le 13575ième jour après Epoch, Stephane Bortzmeyer écrivait: On Sat, Mar 03, 2007 at 08:02:43PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote a message of 17 lines which said: est il possible de souscrire à certaines listes de diffusion via une adresse !bang et particulièrement duf De telles adresses n'ont guère de chance d'être reconnues de nos jours, le routage du courrier sur Internet se faisant désormais entièrement via le DNS. La vraie question est pourquoi en avoir une ? Je vais avoir l'air con, mais bon... J'ai l'habitude :) C'est quoi une adresse !bang ? ... Les seules adresses dans lesquelles un ! apparaît pour moi sont les adresses de newsgroups. Je suis plugged depuis pas mal de temps (BBS et Usenet à l'époque), mais j'ai jamais entendu parler de ça. Ça m'intrigue :)
Re: listes de diffusions et adresses !bang
Le Sat, 03 Mar 2007 20:02:43 +0100 [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit: est il possible de souscrire à certaines listes de diffusion via une adresse !bang et particulièrement duf Qu'est ce qu'une adresse !bang?? François Boisson -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianFrench Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Un logiciel pour les grafcets
Bonjour, Je suis en train de rechercher un logiciel qui pourrait me permettre de faire des grapfcets mais jusqu'à présent je n'ai rien trouvé. Quelqu'un aurait-il une idée ? -- Franck Joncourt http://www.debian.org http://smhteam.info/wiki/ GPG server : pgpkeys.mit.edu Fingerprint : C10E D1D0 EF70 0A2A CACF 9A3C C490 534E 75C0 89FE signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: listes de diffusions et adresses !bang
OoO La nuit ayant déjà recouvert d'encre ce jour du samedi 03 mars 2007, vers 23:20, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (François TOURDE) disait: C'est quoi une adresse !bang ? ... Les seules adresses dans lesquelles un ! apparaît pour moi sont les adresses de newsgroups. Je suis plugged depuis pas mal de temps (BBS et Usenet à l'époque), mais j'ai jamais entendu parler de ça. Ça m'intrigue :) C'est une adresse qui indique le chemin à suivre pour contacter le destinataire. Genre : machine1!machine2!destinataire Faut donc filer le mail à machine1 qui le filera à machine2 qui le délivrera au propriétaire (via UUCP par exemple). Je crois que cela n'est plus autorisé sur la plupart des serveurs. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UUCP contient un peu d'info là-dessus. On peut voir des exemples en vrai ici : http://www.google.com/googlegroups/archive_announce_20.html -- panic(Lucy in the sky); 2.2.16 /usr/src/linux/arch/sparc64/kernel/starfire.c -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianFrench Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Un logiciel pour les grafcets
OoO En cette nuit nuageuse du dimanche 04 mars 2007, vers 00:28, Franck Joncourt [EMAIL PROTECTED] disait: Je suis en train de rechercher un logiciel qui pourrait me permettre de faire des grapfcets mais jusqu'à présent je n'ai rien trouvé. dia ? -- printk(What? oldfid != cii-c_fid. Call 911.\n); 2.4.3 linux/fs/coda/cnode.c -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianFrench Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: en-tête de fichier
Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: On Sat, Mar 03, 2007 at 07:12:52PM +0100, mouss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote a message of 80 lines which said: Où sont stockés les informations telles que nom de fichier, date de création, date de motif, etc ... dans le répertoire où se trouve le fichier. Non (pensez aux liens durs). Cf. les explications de [EMAIL PROTECTED] exact. autant pour moi. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianFrench Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Rhythmbox + OGG
Hola Comunidad, por estos dias he intentado escuchar radios en linea en formato OGG con cualquier programa (Amarok, BMPx, Rhythmbox, Exile, Listen...) pero no lo he conseguido. Hasta ahora he instalado casi todos los plugins gstreamer un monton de librerias que tienen relacion con codificacion y decodificacion de ogg, etc. Y como supongo, que no todos los programas dependen de las mismas librerias o plugins... me entra la sospecha, que quizas haya un error de instalacion/configuracion en mi sistema. Como no se por donde atacar el problema, os pido ayuda. Salu2 XxX -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: problema con grub en mas de 2 SO
El vie, 02-03-2007 a las 16:59 -0600, David Cancio Reyes escribió: Hola que tal. Tengo un problema cuando trato de instalar el tercer sistema operativo en mi computadora. Las caracteristicas. Dell Optiplex 160L Pentium IV 2.6GHz 384 en RAM Disco Duro Maestro: Samsung 40Gb Disco Duro Esclavo: Western Digital 40Gb Primero los formatee a los dos y posteriormente hice lo siguiente... En el disco duro esclavo instale windows xp home edition, pero me pedia que en el disco duro maestro se tenia que escribir información par que pudiera arrancar el sistema, entonces le hice una particion de 10Mb en el disco maestro con sistema de archivos fat32. Posteriormente se instalo windows en el esclavo. Cuando reinicie la computadora, todo funcionaba, pero algo lento al acceder a las cosas y carpetas, a comparación cuando sólo tenia un disco duro. Despúes que instale windows xp, procedi a instalar ubuntu edgy en el disco maestro, primero le hice una particion de 15 Gb para el sistema base y 1Gb para swat en el disco maestro, aunado a la particion fat32 de 10mb. Cuando reinicie la computadora todo funcionaba bien Posteriormente procedi a instalar Fedora Core 5... En el espacio libre del disco duro maestro (23 GB aprox) procedi a instalar Fedora...todo bien, cuando la reinicie, solo aparecia Fedora Core en el menu de Grub. lo que hice fue entrar a Fedora y montar la particion de ubuntu edgy, para copiar lo que tenia el archivo /boot/grub/menu.lst (solo la parte de configuracion que aqui pongo) titleUbuntu, kernel 2.6.17-10-generic root(hd0,1) kernel/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.17-10-generic root=/dev/hda2 ro quiet splash locale=es_ES initrd/boot/initrd.img-2.6.17-10-generic quiet savedefault boot titleUbuntu, kernel 2.6.17-10-generic (recovery mode) root(hd0,1) kernel/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.17-10-generic root=/dev/hda2 ro single initrd/boot/initrd.img- 2.6.17-10-generic boot titleUbuntu, memtest86+ root(hd0,1) kernel/boot/memtest86+.bin quiet boot ### END DEBIAN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST # This is a divider, added to separate the menu items below from the Debian # ones. titleOther operating systems: root # This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for a non-linux OS # on /dev/hda1 titleWindows NT/2000/XP (loader) root(hd0,0) savedefault makeactive chainloader+1 Todo esto lo puse en el /grub/boot/menu.lst de fedora, hasta abajo...quedo asi::: # grub.conf generated by anaconda # # Note that you do not have to rerun grub after making changes to this file # NOTICE: You do not have a /boot partition. This means that # all kernel and initrd paths are relative to /, eg. # root (hd0,4) # kernel /boot/vmlinuz-version ro root=/dev/hda5 # initrd /boot/initrd-version.img #boot=/dev/hda default=0 timeout=15 splashimage=(hd0,4)/boot/grub/splash.xpm.gz hiddenmenu ##En root (hd0,X) la x esta 0 title Fedora Core (2.6.15-1.2054_FC5 ) root (hd0,4) kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-1.2054_FC5 ro root=LABEL=/ rhgb quiet initrd /boot/initrd-2.6.15-1.2054_FC5.img quiet savedefault boot ### #title Other #rootnoverify (hd1,0) #chainloader +1 ### title Other title Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.17-10-generic root(hd0,1) kernel /boot/vmlinuz- 2.6.17-10-generic root=/dev/hda2 ro quiet splash locale=es_ES initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.17-10-generic quiet savedefault boot title Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.17-10-generic (recovery mode) root(hd0,1) kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.17-10-generic root=/dev/hda2 ro single initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.17-10-generic boot title Ubuntu, memtest86+ root(hd0,1) kernel /boot/memtest86+.bin quiet boot title Windows NT/2000/XP (loader) root(hd0,0) savedefault makeactive chainloader +1 Ahora cuando inicio mi computadora aparece el menu de fedora y todo, pero cuando le doy enter y quiero entrar a fedora aparece esto: Booting Fedora Core (2.6.15-1.2054_FD5) root(hd0,4) Filesystem type is ext2fs, partition type 0x83 kernel /boot/umlinux-2.6.15.-1.2054_FC5 ro root=LABEL =1 rhgb quiet [Linux-initrd @ 0x17d83000,0xe0ec5 bytes] savedefault boot uncompressing linux...ok, booting the kernel. Red Hat nas version 5.0.32 starting mount: could not find filesystem 'dev/root' setuproot: moving /dev/failed: No such file or directory setuproot: error mounting /proc: No such file or directory
Re: Saber que ordenadores e stán encendidos en tiempo real
On Fri, Mar 02, 2007 at 08:48:51PM -0400, Damian Fossi wrote: On 3/2/07, Guillermo Cordeiro Baqueiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: quizas con nmap -sP 192.168.1.* te solucione tu problema, esto seria en plan local. No, nmap -sP 192.168.1.1/24 Es exactamente igual una cosa que la otra. Yo suelo uasr la de los asteriscos porque es mas coerta y no tienes que ponerte a averiguar la mascara. Saludos -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# whoami God -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Saber que ordenadores están encendidos en tiempo real
Sorry boube, olvide enviarlo a la lista. En mi caso aveces ocupo el programa fping # fping -g 192.168.0.1/24 | grep alive pc.txt Saludos. -- Luis Vega M. Linux Registered User #356394 - counter.li.org Sitio Personal: http://fodsite.webcindario.com Green Day: http://www.greendayfod.net fodsite AT gmail DOT com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Problema al compilar un programa co n una librería utilizando autotools
Bueno, ya lo solucioné, era un error de lo más tonto, que son los más
difíciles de encontrar. Al final tenía que cambiar una línea en el
Makefine.am que esta en src/exe. La línea que estaba mal era la que ponía:
INCLUDE${top_srcdir)}/src/lib
Había que poner:
INCLUDE${top_builddir)}/src/lib
Con este cambio todo funcionó a la perfección.
Hasta luego
Mensajes de Arranque
Hola a todos, sabeis donde se guardan los mensajes que salen al arrancar la debian, no me da tiempo a leerlos. Los que se refieren al nucleo estan segun creo en /var/log/kern.log... pero el resto. Un saludo Daniel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mensajes de Arranque
El Sábado, 3 de Marzo de 2007 20:27, Daniel Garcia escribió: Hola a todos, sabeis donde se guardan los mensajes que salen al arrancar la debian, no me da tiempo a leerlos. Los que se refieren al nucleo estan segun creo en /var/log/kern.log... pero el resto. Un saludo Daniel Ejecuta dmesg | less Salu2 -- ~aKira~ dd if=/dev/zero of=/mnt/win_c Geek by nature, Linux by choice... Debian, of course Linux Registered User #373380 http://debianizado.blogspot.com/ pgpGUUiqlbyCy.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Mensajes de Arranque
A Dissabte 03 Març 2007 20:27, Daniel Garcia va escriure: Hola a todos, Hola sabeis donde se guardan los mensajes que salen al arrancar la debian, no me da tiempo a leerlos. Los que se refieren al nucleo estan segun creo en /var/log/kern.log... pero el resto. En /var/log/boot aunque está desactivado por defecto. Puedes activarlo modificando el fichero /etc/default/bootlogd BOOTLOGD_ENABLE=Yes Un saludo Daniel -- Robert Gironés Margarit Grup Bages Formadors, SL [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mensajes de Arranque
El sáb, 03-03-2007 a las 20:54 +0100, akira escribió: El Sábado, 3 de Marzo de 2007 20:27, Daniel Garcia escribió: Hola a todos, sabeis donde se guardan los mensajes que salen al arrancar la debian, no me da tiempo a leerlos. Los que se refieren al nucleo estan segun creo en /var/log/kern.log... pero el resto. Un saludo Daniel Ejecuta dmesg | less Salu2 Otra forma interesante de ver los mensajes que salen al arranque es presionar la tecla Scroll Lock o Bloq. Despl que hará que la pantalla deje de avanzar, y te permitirá ver mas arriba o mas abajo presionando Shift+PageUp (o Re.Pag en algunos casos) y Shift+PageDown (o Av.Pag en algunos casos). Saludos! -- Gabriel Parrondo GNU/Linux User #404138 GnuPG Public Key ID: BED7BF43 JID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The only difference between theory and practice is that, in theory, there's no difference between theory and practice. signature.asc Description: Esta parte del mensaje está firmada digitalmente
Re: Rhythmbox + OGG
El sáb, 03-03-2007 a las 09:01 +0100, debian escribió: Hola Comunidad, por estos dias he intentado escuchar radios en linea en formato OGG con cualquier programa (Amarok, BMPx, Rhythmbox, Exile, Listen...) pero no lo he conseguido. Hasta ahora he instalado casi todos los plugins gstreamer un monton de librerias que tienen relacion con codificacion y decodificacion de ogg, etc. Y como supongo, que no todos los programas dependen de las mismas librerias o plugins... me entra la sospecha, que quizas haya un error de instalacion/configuracion en mi sistema. Como no se por donde atacar el problema, os pido ayuda. Hola! yo suelo usar para todo lo que es streaming el vlc... me funciona perfecto con ogg, probalo y nos contas. Si sigue sin funcionar, decinos que error tira alguno de los programas que probaste. Saludos! -- Gabriel Parrondo GNU/Linux User #404138 GnuPG Public Key ID: BED7BF43 JID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The only difference between theory and practice is that, in theory, there's no difference between theory and practice. signature.asc Description: Esta parte del mensaje está firmada digitalmente
Re: Apache, DocumentRoot y desciendo en el arbol de directorios.
Saludos, Estimados, me ha entrado una duda... si tengo configurado el parámetro DocumentRoot de apache con, por ejemplo, /var/www/computacion, sería posible descender en el arbol de directorios y acceder, por ejemplo, a archivos que estén en / (la raiz)? Hasta donde yo sé, en el caso que expones sólo aquello que se encuentre bajo /var/www/computacion será accesible via web (siempre y cuando los permisos los permitan). Ascender en la estructura de directorios no es posible, por lo menos via Web (protocolo HTTP), a menos que exista un VirtualHost o un Alias que lo permita hacer. Es que cada usuario tiene una carpeta llamada public_html en su home y empezaremos a usar esa carpeta para que puedan hacer sus páginas Web. Asi que no se verán págnas que estén en /home/pepe/, por ejemplo. Como te digo, hasta donde yo sé no es posible. Sin embargo revisa el sitio de Apache acerca de posibles vulnerabilidades. Saludos y que Dios nos bendiga!!! -- Juan Pablo Romero Bernal Grupo Linux Universidad Distrital Blog: http://jpromerobx.blogspot.com/ Canal IRC (IRC Channel) #glud (irc.freenode.org) Visita el sitio web de Software Libre en Colombia: http://www.el-directorio.org
Re: Ejecutar programita desde el inicio
El 2/03/07, Marconi Poveda [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: Hola a todos, Estoy probando un programa para calcular numero primos, no se si ya conocen el proyecto[1], en la maquina en que lo quiero ejecutar esta funcionando actualmente de server web, solo me conecto a ella por ssh. El programa se ejecuta en consola ./mprime y funciona pero cuando cierro la conexion este se cae :( Como puedo hacer para que este se ejecute sin necesidad de tener abierta siempre la conexion? Y como hago para que se inicie automaticamente cuando la maquina arranca. man screen man nohup Saludos::.. [1]http://mersenne.org/ -- Marconi A. Poveda Chacón. Managua, Nicaragua. Móvil (505) - 6305290 http://marconipoveda.blogspot.com -- Ricardo A.Frydman Administrador de Sistemas Unix http://www.eureka-linux.com.ar
Re: squid para controlar acceso a paginas web
El 2/03/07, moraca [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: muy buenas quiero controlar como servidor el acceso q se de a internet a distintos usuarios...es decir quiero establecer como un servidor hacia los demas usuarios. No quiero q cualquier usuario acceda a todas las paginas web...como puedo hacerlo con squid? Has leido la documentacion? Alli te lo explica con claridad saludos _ Create tu cuenta de webmail en www.esdebian.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Ricardo A.Frydman Administrador de Sistemas Unix http://www.eureka-linux.com.ar
OT: Revolution Os
Al que le interese este mes anuciaron que van a pasar por TV Revolution Os por isat -- MrIX Linux user number 412793. http://counter.li.org/ las grandes obras, las sueñan los santos locos, las realizan los luchadores natos, las aprovechan los felices cuerdo, y las critican los inútiles crónicos, yo no fui, seguro que es mas inteligente.
Re: OPENVPN - Problema ao resolver nome das mauqinas
Realmente esta com um conceito errado sobre esta bridge. Agora ficou bem claro. Solucionando esta ultima duvida tudo fica mais facil. Segui o manual do openVPN: Tenho as interfaces eth0: 192.168.1.2 - Interface ligada ao router 3COM - Uada para acesso a internet eth1: 10.1.0.1 - IP da minha rede local. eth2: Utilizada como DHCP e esta ligada ao MODEM ADSL. ppp0: Conexão estabelecida com a ADSL Bom, a bridge que tenho que levantar, deve ser levantada com eth1 ou eth2. Fiz o teste seguindo o link que vc me passou. Quando eu levanto com ETH1 rede local. Ele levanta br0 mas o endereço IP 10.1.0.1 que esta configurado na eth1 some. Minha duvida final seria essa. Se eu levanto com a iterface da rede local(eth1), ou levanto com a interface que esta ligado o velox(eth2). Em anexo a reposta do ifconfig em dois momentos. ATNTES DE LEVANTAR: eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:13:D4:F1:4B:EB inet addr:192.168.1.2 Bcast:192.168.1.255 Mask:255.255.255.252 inet6 addr: fe80::213:d4ff:fef1:4beb/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:9106 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:9972 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:2523839 (2.4 MiB) TX bytes:8239977 (7.8 MiB) Base address:0xe800 Memory:fbfe-fc00 eth1 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:50:BF:16:2F:6C inet addr:10.1.0.1 Bcast:10.1.255.255 Mask:255.255.0.0 inet6 addr: fe80::250:bfff:fe16:2f6c/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:12345 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:10457 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:8527469 (8.1 MiB) TX bytes:3140586 (2.9 MiB) Interrupt:209 Base address:0xe400 eth2 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:50:BF:5C:70:AF inet6 addr: fe80::250:bfff:fe5c:70af/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING PROMISC MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:66 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:78 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:4585 (4.4 KiB) TX bytes:7772 (7.5 KiB) Interrupt:193 Base address:0xe000 loLink encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 RX packets:706 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:706 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:78168 (76.3 KiB) TX bytes:78168 (76.3 KiB) ppp0 Link encap:Point-to-Point Protocol inet addr:201.78.39.51 P-t-P:200.217.72.48 Mask:255.255.255.255 UP POINTOPOINT RUNNING NOARP MULTICAST MTU:1492 Metric:1 RX packets:9 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:3 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:3 RX bytes:681 (681.0 b) TX bytes:54 (54.0 b) DEPOIS DE LEVANTAR br0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:50:BF:16:2F:6C inet addr:10.1.0.1 Bcast:10.1.255.255 Mask:255.255.0.0 inet6 addr: fe80::250:bfff:fe16:2f6c/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:1 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:0 (0.0 b) TX bytes:90 (90.0 b) eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:13:D4:F1:4B:EB inet addr:192.168.1.2 Bcast:192.168.1.255 Mask:255.255.255.252 inet6 addr: fe80::213:d4ff:fef1:4beb/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:9563 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:10414 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:2672005 (2.5 MiB) TX bytes:8355361 (7.9 MiB) Base address:0xe800 Memory:fbfe-fc00 eth1 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:50:BF:16:2F:6C inet6 addr: fe80::250:bfff:fe16:2f6c/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING PROMISC MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:13182 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:11157 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:8692582 (8.2 MiB) TX bytes:3302760 (3.1 MiB) Interrupt:209 Base address:0xe400 eth2 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:50:BF:5C:70:AF inet6 addr: fe80::250:bfff:fe5c:70af/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING PROMISC MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:75 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:98 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:5355 (5.2 KiB) TX
Re: Usando apt-get com um reposiório personalizado
Em Fri, 2 Mar 2007 10:59:31 -0300 (ART) Rodrigo Tavares [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: Alguem tem alguma sujestao ? Já tentou a lista de desenvolvedores debian brasileiros? (debian-devel-portuguese) http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/subscribe Sugiro também que ligue seu corretor ortográfico. Sugestão é com g e não j. Abraços. -- Sávio Martins Ramos - Arquiteto Rio de Janeiro ICQ 174972645 Pirataria não! Seja livre: Linux http://www.debian.org
DNS +WIN 2003
fala galera blz, vo precisar d uma mãozinha de vcs estou com o DNS dinamico com ldap 100% so que eu preciso replicalo ao win2003 server, alguem tem alguma coisa sobre isso? e tambem preciso do processo inverso, replicar de um dns 2003 server para o LINUX, BInd9 .. enta desde ja obrigado Maiquel
adsl x Debian
Olá pessoal, Instalei em casa (finalmente) o serviço net super da CTBC com acesso adsl. veio um modem da Dlink DSL-500B. No Windows já tá funcionando certinho. Agora decidi colocar no debian. Ele já reconheceu o modem, atribuiu o ip para o pc, e encontrou um roteador. Executei o pppoeconf para configurar o usuario e senha, porém ainda não quer navegar. O DNS foi trazido automaticamente mas qdo pingo nos endereços não tá respondendo. Tenho que fazer alguma coisa a mais??? O que pode estar dando errado... o usuarios e senhas estão corretos... Desde já muito obrigado Pedro __ Fale com seus amigos de graça com o novo Yahoo! Messenger http://br.messenger.yahoo.com/
TCC PRELUDE
Olá pessoal, Estou elaborando um TCC a respeito de IDSs. Entre as ferramentas que escolhi está a prelude. Porém não estou encontrando material sobre ela na net. Gostaria de saber se alguém já trabalha com esta ferramenta e poderia me dar umas dicas. A documentação do site official é legal, mas preciso de mais coisa Se alguém puder me ajudar fico muito agradecido. Obrigado Pedro __ Fale com seus amigos de graça com o novo Yahoo! Messenger http://br.messenger.yahoo.com/
Re: adsl x Debian
On Sat, 3 Mar 2007 13:48:44 -0300 (ART) Pedro Celio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Olá pessoal, Instalei em casa (finalmente) o serviço net super da CTBC com acesso adsl. veio um modem da Dlink DSL-500B. No Windows já tá funcionando certinho. Agora decidi colocar no debian. Ele já reconheceu o modem, atribuiu o ip para o pc, e encontrou um roteador. Executei o pppoeconf para configurar o usuario e senha, porém ainda não quer navegar. O DNS foi trazido automaticamente mas qdo pingo nos endereços não tá respondendo. Tenho que fazer alguma coisa a mais??? O que pode estar dando errado... o usuarios e senhas estão corretos... voce incluiu no arquivo /etc/resolv.conf nameserver 201.10.128.3 nameserver 201.10.120.3 search fez o roteamento route add default gw ip_do_modem eth0 -- Carlucio Lopes- Cobolito 62-8415-8939 msn:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Entenda Pirataria = http://www.carlinux.v10.com.br Compilador Cobol Free http://tinycobol.org em Portugues Porque Cobol? == http://www.clubecobol.com.br/cc_porque_cobol_02.asp Projeto Debian Brasil http://cdd.debian-br.org Tinycobol/Debian Gnu-Linux/Postgresql/Tcl-Tk
Re: TCC PRELUDE
Prezado Pedro, eu já utilizei o prelude, mas atualmente tenho mais familiaridade com o snort, e acredito que ele tb tenha uma base de usuários maior. O prelude é muito flexível e pode, inclusive, usar o snort como um sensor. Enfim, não posso lhe ajudar muito, mas desejo boa sorte. E qd concluir o seu trabalho, por favor divulgue aqui na lista. Eu tenho algumas apresentações que podem lhe ser úteis, se quiser, entre em contato em privado. Guilherme Em 03/03/07, Pedro Celio[EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: Olá pessoal, Estou elaborando um TCC a respeito de IDSs. Entre as ferramentas que escolhi está a prelude. Porém não estou encontrando material sobre ela na net. Gostaria de saber se alguém já trabalha com esta ferramenta e poderia me dar umas dicas. A documentação do site official é legal, mas preciso de mais coisa Se alguém puder me ajudar fico muito agradecido. Obrigado Pedro __ Fale com seus amigos de graça com o novo Yahoo! Messenger http://br.messenger.yahoo.com/ -- Guilherme Rocha Linux Registered User:391180 Keep on hackin' in the free world! -- www.gf7.com.br GF7 Documentação e Sistemas Integrados www.cuc.org.br Central Única da Cidadania
Pacotes laptop
Ola! Senhores(as) Estou precisando de algum pacote que faça genrencia de energia para laptop. Alguém poderia me indicar um bacana. Valeu!! -- Rodrigo Emygdio da S. S. Pereira Brasília - DF * (0xx61)3426-2255 / * (0xx61)8118-5169
Re: adsl x Debian
Olá pessoal, Oi Pedro, Ele já reconheceu o modem, atribuiu o ip para o pc, e encontrou um roteador. Executei o pppoeconf para configurar o usuario e senha, porém ainda não quer navegar. O DNS foi trazido automaticamente mas qdo pingo nos endereços não tá respondendo. Se vc pingar os IPs, ao invés dos URLs, responde? Tente pingar os DNS do seu provedor ou esse: 200.195.159.66 (esse é o DNS da Copelnet). Se responder vc está na rede e é só um problema de DNS. Se não responder, faça o teste de trás pra frente: ping o IP do seu modem (no DSL500B acredito ser 10.1.1.1 o default). Se não pingar, vc tem algum problema de conexão interna aí, configuração do modem/placa de rede/etc. Se pingar, tente pingar o gateway do modem (o que gateway que o provedor fornece). Se não pingar o gateway do provedor, então vc tem um problema na sua linha ou na interface Wan do seu modem. Se pingar o gateway do provedor e não pingar o DNS do provedor, então tem problema no provedor. Se pingar o gateway e o DNS do provedor, vc está na internet (claro que isso não é inteiramente verdade, mas é 99% de certeza), e aí você tem um problema de DNS. Abração, Paulo de Souza Lima Curitiba/PR Linux User 432358 __ Fale com seus amigos de graça com o novo Yahoo! Messenger http://br.messenger.yahoo.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: desconectar usuarios
Em 03/03/07, robert henrrique chaves chaves[EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: valeu obrigado pela a dica , vc trabalha com adm de rede ? olha quando vc fala pid do usuário esta falando do pid bash do usuário conectado? Sim, trabalho com administração de rede. Sim, estou falando do pid bash Deu certo a dica brigadão Bom saber! :-) -- Júnio José Se você consegue tentar é possível que você consiga fazer.
Re: /etc/cron.daily/man-db: /var/cache/man: Permission denied
I think it's a problem with the way exim is configured. Exim is mailing the report locally. So that's why we couldn't find anything about cron-daily, man-db, or file permissions ! I can see the same error on two freshly installed Debian unstable boxes, with completely different archs and settings. I need to track it further, just wnated to drop a note to the archives. See http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=209185 keep it rolling micha -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Firestarter VS Shorewall
On Thu 2007-03-01 16:05:32 -0500 Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 09:45:41PM +0100, Franck Joncourt wrote: On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 11:56:41AM -0800, Jordi wrote: John, that seems to complicated for me, but seems good as it is a hardware firewall. Roverto, seems you like to do a control of all parameters, you must be an expert. I will try to do as you say, and learn a bit. Want to set up a firewall ; it is better to know what you do :)! I started using iptables first, and now it is quite difficult to change, even to try other stuff. So if you want to learn more, take a look at the iptables tutorial. However, I should admit it is time consuming. Right, like when you want a firewall to manage a half-dozen different zones on your network, which is connected to several different ISPs, while performing traffic shaping functions? If you need to manage a half-dozen zones the chances are that you'll be doing packet filtering on specialized hardware so shorewall will be of no use. On Fri 2007-03-02 04:31:18 -0800 Jordi wrote: I wonder if shorewall is for me like using a cannon to kill a flea. It probably is. Having this in mind, do you know a good and simple solution? I will have much time to learn for future, it is just to have a start point. I recommend http://www.netfilter.org/documentation/HOWTO//packet-filtering-HOWTO.html written by Rusty Russell, the initial author and one of the current main developers of iptables/netfilter. He shows a simple six line firewall script at http://www.netfilter.org/documentation/HOWTO//packet-filtering-HOWTO-5.html. -- David Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A very simple documentation framework
On Fri, Mar 02, 2007 at 10:37:52PM EST, ][ wrote: Sorry for responding late... No problem. I'm still working on it. :-) On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 11:05:07 -0500, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: On Sun, Feb 11, 2007 at 06:11:58AM -0500, cga2000 wrote: So far my personal doc system amounts to a patchwork of notes and cheat sheets in ascii files that I grep when I need to find some piece of information or other. I would like to switch to something a little more ambitious where I would be able to generate my docs in the usual popular formats, namely pdf, html, ps, txt, and possibly dvi. snip I asked something similar a couple of months ago and the concensus was either LaTex or DocBook. No, LaTex or DocBook would be too much over kill for simple documentation, though I'm very found of LaTex myself. You're right, but it's difficult to resist learning at least the basics of LaTeX and DocBook. The risk, naturally, is that trying to kill two birds with one stone I might miss both (writing the doc and learning the documentation tools) .. and end up empty-handed. Check out AsciiDoc. Would something like this (AsciiDoc sample output) http://xpt.sourceforge.net/techdocs/misc/ce01-DarkBackgroundIsGoodForYou/ be good enough? It fulfills all your requirement, but is even more simpler. Definitely. I would add that due to their complexity, achieving the same quality going down the LaTeX or the DocBook toolchains is probably not going to be trivial. A more subtle risk is possibly that considering that these two are such large complex products and that since I lack the technical proficiency (and likely the time to acquire it) .. I may have to stick to a such a small subset of their respective capabilities that I would end up limiting myself as a writer. What I mean is that for instance, I might want to present a given topic in a certain way but end up doing differently only because I'd start thinking that it would take me days (or weeks..) to figure out how to do it. If you don't believe that everything behind it was just plain text, check out the AsciiDoc Markup Syntax Quick Summary http://xpt.sourceforge.net/techdocs/nix/asciidoc-syn/ascs01-AsciiDocMarkupSyntaxQuickSummary/ Actually, in my setup at least, the Dark Background document looks absolutely great in a text browser such as elinks. :-) Maybe another concern of mine is that LaTeX and DocBook are technologies that won't go away any time soon.. And this guarantees that both the time I spend rewriting my .txt documents in either of these, and the time spent acquiring some fluency using them is not entirely wasted. Right now, my preference would probably be DocBook over LaTeX since it clearly separates content and formatting. In my case it's not just a matter of DocBook doing the right thing. An additional incentive is that as long as I can find suitable stylesheets, I only need to become fluent with a dozen or so xml tags to get started and the transformation tools will take care of everything else for me. I also saw somewhere that there seems to exist a simplified version of DocBook. I know nothing about its current status, but I should probably take a look and see it might do anything for me .. Lastly, I'm also curious of DocBook's capabilities as far as providing a framework that might (?) help locate information in what would amount to a documentation database. Here again, recursive grep's of my text files usually works where my personal docs are concerned .. but in terms of concept, it's clearly not a very satisfying approach. Maybe I'm more interested in documentation technology than the drudgery of writing and maintaining documents. :-) In any case, thanks much for your comments. Thanks, cga -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Firestarter VS Shorewall
On Sat, Mar 03, 2007 at 08:08:36AM +, David Hart wrote: On Thu 2007-03-01 16:05:32 -0500 Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 09:45:41PM +0100, Franck Joncourt wrote: On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 11:56:41AM -0800, Jordi wrote: John, that seems to complicated for me, but seems good as it is a hardware firewall. Roverto, seems you like to do a control of all parameters, you must be an expert. I will try to do as you say, and learn a bit. Want to set up a firewall ; it is better to know what you do :)! I started using iptables first, and now it is quite difficult to change, even to try other stuff. So if you want to learn more, take a look at the iptables tutorial. However, I should admit it is time consuming. Right, like when you want a firewall to manage a half-dozen different zones on your network, which is connected to several different ISPs, while performing traffic shaping functions? If you need to manage a half-dozen zones the chances are that you'll be doing packet filtering on specialized hardware so shorewall will be of no use. I have never said using iptables was the best solution, however, I think the understanding of netfilter/iptables might help. It is up to everyone to choose whether they want to get a better understanding of what they are doing, or not. He may not need to bother with all that. Anyway, iptables, fwbuilder, shorewall and ohters have their own advantages and drawbacks. Having this in mind, do you know a good and simple solution? I will have much time to learn for future, it is just to have a start point. I recommend http://www.netfilter.org/documentation/HOWTO//packet-filtering-HOWTO.html written by Rusty Russell, the initial author and one of the current main developers of iptables/netfilter. He shows a simple six line firewall script at http://www.netfilter.org/documentation/HOWTO//packet-filtering-HOWTO-5.html. Here is the link I use where you can get pretty useful information (for the future maybe 8)! ), as well : - protocol description - connection tracking - iptables itself http://iptables-tutorial.frozentux.net/iptables-tutorial.html There are some examples too. -- Franck Joncourt http://www.debian.org http://smhteam.info/wiki/ GPG server : pgpkeys.mit.edu Fingerprint : C10E D1D0 EF70 0A2A CACF 9A3C C490 534E 75C0 89FE signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Wired and wireless PCMCIA LAN cards: configuration problems
I have a Toshiba Tecra 8000 P2 laptop first with Sarge and now with Etgh installed, plus KDE. Normally, I am in Toronto, where for some time I have been using a D-Link 10/100 mb LAN + 56k FAX/modem PCMCIA for a wired RJ-45 connection from the laptop to my home LAN and beyond. However, I am now in Chiang Mai, Thailand, for the next five weeks. The LAN in the building where I have rented a condo only has wireless for the individual units. Consequently, for the duration I wanted to replace the aforementioned D-Link card with a wireless PCMCIA card (SMC model 2853W 802.11g, 2.4 gH, 54 mbps). Unfortunately, I have so far been unable to connect my laptop to the wireless LAN in the building. What I did to try to establish a connection follows. Right after booting the laptop with that PC card installed, I opened the KDE KWiFiManager. By means of a laptop icon it indicated that the PC card was detected. However, no signal was found, presumably because any required configurations had not been done. So from the KWiFiManager menu I selected the configuration editor as root and entered the following data in the Config 1 tab -- the only one used: Network name left blank; autodetection of interface, indicated as eth0; no start-up script entered; encryption configured as follows: Key to use: Key 1. Crypto mode: open. Crypto Keys: in the slot for key 1 the ASCII code given me by the LAN administrator was entered; to right of code was the indication WEP 64 bit hex, which also conformed with the information given me. The other three key slots are not used. In the General Settings area, Load preset configuration on start-up selected. Configuration to Load=Config 1. Number of configurations=1. I next selected Activate. A window labelled Information -- KDE Control Module opened. The text in it read as follows: The following settings could not be applied: Speed settings could not be modified. Interface could not be re-enabled. I selected OK to close that window, and then Apply. My last action was at this point was to close the configuration editor window. There was no change in the KWiFIManager as described above. So obviously what needed to be configured was not. The only other thing I could think of doing at this point was to look at the Network Settings in the KDE Control Centre as root. It indicated the interface as eth0, the protocol as dhcp, the state as disabled, and the comment as Wireless Network Device. By highlighting the line with all the foregoing information, two buttons below were activated: Configure Device and Enable Device. Selecting the former produced another window with two panels in it. The first panel was labeled TCP/IP address. The automatic button was already selected, with dhcp in the slot to the right of the button. Below that button was the manual button, unselected. At the bottom of this panel was the indication Activate when the computer starts, the button for which was already checked. The second panel was labeled Wireless Settings. There were three slots to make entries: ESSID, which was empty; WEP key, which had 10 asterisks in it; and Key type, which had ASCII. In the ESSID slot I entered any. I then selected OK, which applied the change and closed the window. I then selected Enable Interface. Another window appeared, saying that the new configuration had not been changed and asked whether I wanted to apply the changes. I did and thereupon selected Apply. The network settings were saved, but then a new window appeared, with the title Error While Listing Network Interfaces - KDE. The text message in the window read as follows: Could not parse the XML output from the network configuration backend. After closing that window, the Wireless Network Device was still in Disabled state. Selecting Apply in the Network Settings window in the KDE Control Centre saves the settings once again, but the device state is still Disabled. Besides the Network Interfaces tab in the Network Settings window, there were three others; Route, Domain Name System and Network Profiles. The first and third of those three were empty. The second, as far as I could determine, merely repeats the contents of the /etc/hosts file. It does indicate the static IP address of the laptop to connect to my home LAN in Toronto: 192.168.0.142. Iwconfig returned the following: lono wireless extensions. irda0 no wireless extensions. eth0 NOT READY! ESSID:off/any Mode:Managed Channel:0 Access Point: Not-Associated Tx-Power=31 dBm Sensitivity=0/200 Retry min limit:0 RTS thr=0 B Fragment thr=0 B Encryption key:ABCD-E123-44 Security mode:restricted Link Quality:0 Signal level:0 Noise level:0 Rx invalid nwid:0 Rx invalid crypt:0 Rx invalid frag:0 Tx excessive retries:0 Invalid misc:0 Missed beacon:0 sit0 no wireless extensions. At this point by
samba complains about reading permitons
Good day,.. Im expriancing some strange behavior with samba : some files (didn't anything common to them) bring me the next error : cp: cannot open `/mnt/test/securty.txt' for reading: Permission denied i made tail /var/log/messges : Mar 3 11:20:41 localhost -- MARK -- Mar 3 11:40:41 localhost -- MARK -- Mar 3 11:47:24 localhost kernel: SMB connection re-established (-5) in dmesg : nada .. in samba/log... : [2007/03/03 11:02:58, 0] client/smbmount.c:send_fs_socket(415) mount.smbfs: entering daemon mode for service \\192.168.123.114\home, pid=3609 Yours truley .. Jabka Atu mom: J' you will miss school .. me:hmm .. ln -s school /tmp me:they say that school temporaly unavlibale -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Icedove does not save unsent messages to the Unsent Messages folder
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: Is your account a POP account or IMAP? POP Regards, Ken -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debian in combination with
Hello I have the same problem with debian and pdsmi This is very annoying. Etch appears to makes problems during installion too. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: HOWTO: multi-seat Debian Sid using the stock kernels.
Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/02/07 14:50, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Hi, When you use multiple videocards/monitors/keyboards/mice and Debian stock kernels, the starting of gpm/gdm will fail because of the absence of mice. Have no idea why so with the Debian stock kernels and not with my own generated kernel. It probably has to do with initramfs, which is (usually) not used in home-rolled kernels. It does, namely the presence of usbhid, which I left out when generating my own with yaird, cf.http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2006/12/msg01571.html Sorry I said that I had no idea. What I meant was that usbhid's behavior is strange. At the time I queried if it was possible to blacklist modules from an initramfs-tools image. Hugo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X.org: manual fonts installation
On Fri, 2 Mar 2007 17:30:35 +0100 Michelle Konzack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1) mkdir ~/.font 2) cp *.ttf ~/.font/ 3) cd ~/.font 4) mkfontscale ./ 5) mkfontdir ./ and under X: 6) xset +fp ~/.font which can be put into your ~/.xesssion or similar files which are read at startup of the xserver No restart of the xserver is required since 'xset +/-fp' is working On-The-Fly. Could you give a similar way to install Type1 fonts, consisting of a .pfa or .pfb file, and a .afm file? TIA, S.H. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: a dumb query? pls humor me
Greg Folkert wrote: On Fri, 2007-03-02 at 16:33 -0800, Freddy Freeloader wrote: Greg Folkert wrote: On Fri, 2007-03-02 at 10:16 -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: On 03/01/07 19:25, Paul Johnson wrote: Steve Lamb wrote: Mitja Podreka wrote: [snip] Who's rich enough to afford to waste gas driving faster than 60 MPH, much less more on a regular basis? Fuel economy on most vehicles takes a massive nosedive after 60MPH due to wind drag. It's a time-money problem. People would rather spend the extra money to get there faster. Saving only 5 or 10 minutes on a 90 mile trip? Irrelevant. True, but it still doesn't work out rationally: Unless you make a lot of money or gas is unbelievably cheap, that few minutes saved will cost you more wage-hours than it's worth... Unless you lose you job being late and you don't want to leave any earlier. Its a choice. First, my mileage doesn't go down until I consistently cross the 80 mph barrier. Second, on my 125 mile commute to work, one way, the time saved at 10-15 mph faster than 60 is considerable. It's the difference between spending 12+ hours a day away from the house, to spending between 11 and 11 1/2 hours away from the house. Over the course of a work week that's a lot of time saved. Also, I have a buddy that lives in southern Oregon and it's a 560 mile drive to his house. It takes him more than 12 hours to make the drive. I make the drive in around 9 hours. That's a huge difference in how tired a person is by the time they finish the trip. Is the 1 or 2 mpg I lose by driving faster than he does worth it? You bet. I am still getting 35 mpg so how much can I be losing? I get about exactly the same mileage if I drive at 60 - 65 only I'm far less tired after driving for 9 hours than I am driving for 12 hours which means I am far more alert and thus a much safer driver. Piece of info for you, very rarely does my highway speed go under 85. I've been stopped by Police in my 1969 442, more than once. Asking me to get out of the car and search the trunk, the engine compartment and glove compartment... and so on. Only to be given a warning for drive 100 +MPH. Last time, the one officer had a digital camera and asked if he could take pictures. I've also been pulled over with my Lancer for going 75MPH in a 70MPH zone, and given a ticket. But, yes, I also drive faster than posted. LOL. Yeah, I've gotten off what would have been some very expensive tickets too. The only reason I could ever think of was because of the cars I was driving at the time piqued the cops interest. I once got pulled over for doing about 90 in town and having a huge blue cloud of tire smoke behind me in my 69 ElCamino. I was honest, didn't lie, but the cop really liked my car and he gave me a verbal warning. That was about 30 years ago though. I also got off on a speeding ticket in my Subaru SVX. The cop looked the car over really carefully, asked me if I knew how fast I was going, and I told him, Not until I saw you. I really don't have any sense of speed in this car until I hit 100. He laughed and said, I believe it. He gave me a verbal warning for close to 70 in a 45 mph zone on a two lane country road. Other times I've been pulled over for 3 miles an hour over. The car a person drives and the attitude towards the cop makes a lot of difference between warnings and tickets, at least in my experience. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What's the best way to backup to dvd?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael M. wrote: On Fri, 2007-03-02 at 22:24 +0100, Joe Hart wrote: Michael M. wrote: On Fri, 2007-03-02 at 16:02 +0100, Joe Hart wrote: According to Automatix (the easy installer that is used by many ubuntu users ( http://www.getautomatix.com ) it is illegal to install deCSS in the United States. They may be wrong. Sorry I can't find on that website where it says installing DeCSS is illegal. Reference? Teledirekt suggested that it should be possible to make a back up copy for consumers of DVDs and that their programme DVD X copy would enable this. The judge ruled though that the programme can be considered as a circumvention device and distribution of those devices is not allowed on the grounds of 29a of the Dutch Copyright Act. The above website is inaccurate. Stichtig B.R.E.I.N. is much like the M.P.A.A., a organization that is trying to limit pirating of copyrighted material. There is a fair use stipulation to the Dutch Copyright Act, and installing DeCSS could be considered (and has by some courts) a fair use. Ok, how about: http://www.euro-copyrights.org/index/1/10 : In any case, technological measures that prevent acts that are exempted under copyright law are protected. Therefore, one is, for instance, not allowed to circumvent a measure that hinders private copying, even though private copying is explicitly exempted under the Dutch Copyright Act. The protection of technological measures is limited by the fact that only technological measures applied to copyright protected material are covered. Consequently, technologies preventing acts as regards non-copyrightable material, for instance, material in regard of which the copyright has expired, may lawfully be circumvented. [ ... ] The following two sections of the provision list the restricted acts regarding technological measures. First, Section 2 of article 29a states that anyone circumventing an effective technological measure, who does so with the knowledge, or with reasonable grounds to know, that he is pursuing that objective, commits an unlawful act and may be held liable under civil law. [ ... ] Section 3 of Article 29a concerns the provision and distribution of circumvention services or devices. Briefly put, circumvention devices are cracks. The provision of information, for instance, on a website, aiding to the circumvention of a technological measure could be a circumvention service for the purpose of the provision. The offering of such services or devices constitutes an unlawful act, if the devices or services: (a) are advertised for circumvention, or (b) have only a limited commercially significant purpose or use other than to circumvent technological measures, or (c) are primarily designed for circumvention [ ... ] As is mentioned above, technological measures appear to be protected if they restrict any act which is not authorized by the copyright holder. Therefore, not only does one need the right holder’s permission to engage in a copyright infringing act, but, if it is technologically blocked, a license is also needed to lawfully perform a non-infringing act. Even if an activity is expressly exempted by copyright law, like the act of private copying, a right holder who applies technological measures statutorily has control over that act. The Directive, however, allows the EU Member States to cater for some of the copyright exemptions. But the Dutch legislator decided not to do so yet. The new legislation allows the Minister of Justice to by decree introduce a requirement for copyright holders to provide the means which enable certain exempted acts. Of course, until the Minster sees fit to issue a decree, no such obligation will exist. The Dutch Copyright Act contains many exemptions. But the decree may only be issued for those exemptions permitting educational usage, usage by disabled people, private copying, copying for preservation purposes, temporary copying by broadcasting organizations and usage for judicial or administrative purposes. Exactly which “means” the right holders will have to provide remains uncertain until a decree has been issued. You keep saying such-and-such is legal the Netherlands and courts have found it so, but every document I can find and every ruling I can find any information about says otherwise, and you don't provide any citations. Not that the law stops most of the people. Well you're right about that! :-)The law has certainly not stopped me from doing quite a bit that's illegal here. I think the media companies are to blame for this mess. Especially the software distributors. I can understand someone wanting to protect their hard work, but reality says no matter how much something is protected, it will eventually be cracked. The battle has been raging ever since computers became popular and I imagine it will continue. Well I wasn't
Re: Cannot ping localhost
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Bruno Delalleau wrote: Hello debianers! For some reason I can no longer ping localhost: ping -c 3 localhost PING localhost.localdomain (127.0.0.1) 56(84) bytes of data. --- localhost.localdomain ping statistics --- 3 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 2000ms I saw that when I tried to configure my printer using the web interface: http://localhost:631/admin If I use as root: ifconfig lo, I can ping localhost. But the next time I reboot I cannot ping localhost: I have again to become root and use ifcong. So, my question: how do I save the command ifconfig lo in some place so that I don't have to redo the same procedure? Is there a script or a config file? This is the content of my /etc/network/interfaces file: ### etherconf DEBCONF AREA. DO NOT EDIT THIS AREA OR INSERT TEXT BEFORE IT. auto lo eth1 eth2 iface lo inet loopback ### END OF DEBCONF AREA. PLACE YOUR EDITS BELOW; THEY WILL BE PRESERVED. I'm sure that there should be a trick, but which one? I swear that I have tried to RTFM! You must have trimmed that file because there is no definition for eth1 or eth2, and for that matter, where is eth0? - -- Running Debian Sid/Experimental http://debian.org Registerd Linux user #443289 at http://counter.li.org/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFF6XEiiXBCVWpc5J4RAubrAJwPkqLt9Nr+RHVMWHSNSt5pbK2agwCeIlSJ L42HfxIyAAwvqI7GziWA/9Q= =WcvB -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CMS for server
Thanks friends I though my message was not going to be published. If someone thinks it is offtopic sorry, just don't answer me. But as sometimes I see messages talking about winning money sending emails or enlarging their penis, I thought that 'cos many of you run servers and thus maybe you know good cms or will be good for you to compare them, I could get good advice on this. Just answer or ignore me, please. I didn't wanted to polemize. So long, Jordi PD: I will take a serious look at Joomla Clive. Thanks Greg. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: etch installer hanging on packages
On 02/03/2007 18:00, Kevin Scott Sumner wrote: comes at Select and install software progress bar -- it halts at 5%. I'm not sure it's the exact same problem I encountered, but just a few days ago I worked around it using a standard Etch netinst CD (no daily, no weekly) and this suggestion: http://snipurl.com/1b5pm -- Ciao, Marco. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Two identical usb networking cards problem
Hi group, I googled / searched the list around a lot but couldn't find what the cause of my problem might be... I installed debian etch on an NSLU2. It has an internal network card which is brought up automatically at boot time. I have two additional usb network cards attached to a hub which are identical. Only one of them is brought up at boot time. Which one, that is (well, seems to be, anyway) completely random, :-/ My /etc/network/interfaces: # This file describes the network interfaces available on your system # and how to activate them. For more information, see interfaces(5). # The loopback network interface auto lo iface lo inet loopback # The primary network interface allow-hotplug eth0 iface eth0 inet static address 192.168.20.10 netmask 255.255.255.0 allow-hotplug eth1 iface eth1 inet static address 192.168.31.10 netmask 255.255.255.0 allow-hotplug eth2 iface eth2 inet dhcp pre-up ethtool -s eth2 autoneg off speed 10 If I change the allow-hotplug to auto, my problem is solved. So why this mail? Just because I feel that etch is logging way to little information because: 1. I can't seem to find in the logs when and by what daemon / script eth0 is brought up. It is always brought up. No logs whatsoever. 2. I had to edit /lib/udev/net.agent to let it log which interface it was bringing up. I already set a log level of debug in /etc/udev/udev.conf but that is not enough. 3. It seems that udev is not involved, however, it must be udev which is changing interface names with its persistent-net.rules since my logs tell me that the asix driver loads eth1 and eth2 with some mac addresses, but after I bring up the missing interface, the names are swapped according to their mac addresses. However, I can't seem to find that in the logs. 4. /var/log/boot tells me ifup -a is run, however, I'd like to know which interfaces ifup is bringing up. No log... 5. It is not ifup -a which is bringing up the one usb interface because ifdown eth1 and eth2 and then ifup -a -n shows me ifup has no intention of bringing up either eth1 or eth2. My question: how can I find out which daemon/script is bringing up my two out of three interfaces and how can I make sure it brings up all three (without resorting to auto lines, apparently allow-hotplug should work). I feel kinda lost... Thanks in advance, David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Firestarter VS Shorewall
Thanks for the links I asked in the Ubuntu forum too and they say me that it may be unnecessary to combine hardware firewall and software firewall (iptables or any other that uses it). But they said I can do, if I am paranoid. And as you said, the correct place to stop an intruder is BEFORE they cross the router. As has been said in all these conversations here in Debian and Ubuntu, we could resume: - A hardware firewall is better than a software firewall. - You can convine software and hardware firewall. - But if you do that, you won't get a fantastic improvement on security. - All software firewalls use iptables, but some allow extra features. - To have a good hardware firewall buy a good router-switch or a specific hardware device. If something is wrong please correct me. In order to find a good router with firewall I saw this in the pc shop: http://www.smc.com/index.cfm?event=viewProductlocaleCode=EN_USApid=1588 It is the 7904WBRA2 of the company named SMC Networks. The text says this: - The SMC7904WBRA2 combines an ADSL2/2+ modem, router, 4-port 10/100 LAN switch, 802.11g wireless access point robust SPI firewall making it the complete solution for securely connecting sharing your high speed ADSL connection, wired or wirelessly. It gives you instant always on internet connectivity with download speeds up to 24Mbps - ideal for streaming multimedia content to the home. The EZ Installation Wizard with on-screen help configures your ADSL connection wireless network in 5 easy to follow steps. Quality-of- Service gives priority to real-time, delay sensitive applications like Voice-over-IP and video-on-demand to improve the user experience. The NAT firewall with Stateful Packet Inspection (SPI), Intrusion Detection System (IDS) Denial-of-Service (DoS) provides robust security from hackers. VPN pass-through is also provided for securely connecting to your office or corporate network. - It seems it has good protection: hardware firewall, IDS and protection against DoS. It is thought both for personal and corporate use. Seems good. Should I buy this router-modem-switch ? So long, Jordi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Icedove does not save unsent messages to the Unsent Messages folder
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/02/07 20:10, Ken Heard wrote: When working off line in Icedove messages to be sent later are not saved in the Unsent Messages folder of the e-mail account where the messages are created, for later sending when back on line. Instead they are saved in the Unsent folder of the Local Folders account. Consequently they are not sent when back on line. As these messages did not appear in my account's Sent folder after I went on line, I thought they had disappeared into the ether -- most disconcerting. Subsequently I discovered by accident that when I selected Send later after I composed them they went into the Local Folders Unsent folder. I could find no option among Icedove's preferences to have Send later messages saved in the account's Unsent Messages folder. This bug should be fixed. Testing your assertion now. Ken Heard -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFF6XqlS9HxQb37XmcRAgNWAJwP2yfQmT5qbn6bkySanVXo2ajWqACbBKcr e/D+vCZ8dN3Bl71m0sHu59E= =+vHy -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
a few things ...
You probably did not need ndiswrapper in either case. The 'rt2500' driver has been made open source over a year ago: apt-cache search rt2500 A small group is currently rewriting the code for a mode generic and friendlier driver but I don't believe the work is done yet - but the drivers and tools are fine. I've built a remote device using a USB key which uses the rt2570 driver, which is closely related. For the PRISM - well, that depends on which model PRISM. With the earlier models, drivers have been in Linux for ages; originally in the 'pcmcia-cs' project but lately they have been accepted into the main kernel. Whether or not you need to install the older pcmcia-cs package depends on what version kernel you are running. You can find other tools to help configure the PRISM card using 'apt-cache': apt-cache search prism I would not recommend using a GUI for the job at the moment - there have been too many changes recently (and yet another major change in the works). There is a linux wireless / PCMCIA compatibility site which has been discussed in these forums several times in the past; if you can find those discussions and a link you will find a lot of useful information. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Firestarter VS Shorewall
Jordi wrote: I saw two good firewalls: - Firestarter wich is easy - Shorewall wich seems versatile Wich is best for a single server pc? Does the complexity of shorewall worth the effort or is firestarter as good as shorewall? I can only tell about firestarter. Perhaps it helps a bit. First, about the understanding what is happening-argument: I do not want to know about the lowest level of my firewall. I do not programm in assembler, I use C++ or C#. With an assembler I would have a better understand what is happening. I do not need it. I want a solution. I do not write my own operating system out of the same reason. So I just want a working firewall. And firestarter does this job. I do not know about complex setups with multiple servers. I am just using one server, client etc at the time. The firewall shall protect one computer at a time. And so I use firestarter everywhere. I use ssh with X11 forwarding to manage the firewall. If I have a pure debian server without gui, it takes ca. 70 MB extra space to install firestarter + gui bla bla. Then I can use the firestarter gui to setup. It shows the active connections it it has a mode, where it stops all outgoing connections per default (this has to be activated: one click) etc Before you use this option, you should enable ssh :-) It is just great. But I do not know, if shorewall is better or worse. Cu, Andreas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Two identical usb networking cards problem
On Sat, Mar 03, 2007 at 02:19:20PM +0100, David Fokkema wrote:
Hi group,
Hi,
I installed debian etch on an NSLU2. It has an internal network card
which is brought up automatically at boot time. I have two additional
usb network cards attached to a hub which are identical. Only one of
them is brought up at boot time. Which one, that is (well, seems to be,
anyway) completely random, :-/
My /etc/network/interfaces:
# This file describes the network interfaces available on your system
# and how to activate them. For more information, see interfaces(5).
# The loopback network interface
auto lo
iface lo inet loopback
# The primary network interface
allow-hotplug eth0
iface eth0 inet static
address 192.168.20.10
netmask 255.255.255.0
allow-hotplug eth1
iface eth1 inet static
address 192.168.31.10
netmask 255.255.255.0
allow-hotplug eth2
iface eth2 inet dhcp
pre-up ethtool -s eth2 autoneg off speed 10
If I change the allow-hotplug to auto, my problem is solved.
My question: how can I find out which daemon/script is bringing up my
two out of three interfaces and how can I make sure it brings up all
three (without resorting to auto lines, apparently allow-hotplug
should
work).
Take a look here :
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=403706
The following commands are your friends :
# ip link
or
# ifconfig -a
If you can see an interface names as ethX_rename or something like that,
it means udev mess it up. You can fix it, by writing udev rules. This is
the way I do to ensure my interfaces get the right name.
By the way, you can see the name supply by udev :
sid:/var/lib# cat /etc/udev/rules.d/z25_persistent-net.rules
# This file was automatically generated by the /lib/udev/write_net_rules
# program, probably run by the persistent-net-generator.rules rules
# file.
#
# You can modify it, as long as you keep each rule on a single line.
# Firewire device 0011d8b05f6c (ohci1394)
SUBSYSTEM==net, DRIVERS==?*,
ATTRS{address}==00:11:d8:00:00:b0:5f:6c, NAME=eth0
# PCI device 0x10de:0x0373 (forcedeth)
#SUBSYSTEM==net, DRIVERS==?*, ATTRS{address}==00:17:31:a4:0b:4e,
NAME=eth1
# PCI device 0x10de:0x0373 (forcedeth)
#SUBSYSTEM==net, DRIVERS==?*, ATTRS{address}==00:17:31:a3:ff:31,
NAME=eth2
# PCI device 0x1113:0x1211 (8139too)
#SUBSYSTEM==net, DRIVERS==?*, ATTRS{address}==00:10:b5:e1:5c:e5,
NAME=eth3
# PCI device 0x10ec:0x8139 (8139too)
#SUBSYSTEM==net, DRIVERS==?*, ATTRS{address}==00:08:a1:96:82:35,
NAME=eth4
Hope it helps.
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Re: Firestarter VS Shorewall
On Sat, Mar 03, 2007 at 08:08:36AM +, David Hart wrote: If you need to manage a half-dozen zones the chances are that you'll be doing packet filtering on specialized hardware so shorewall will be of no use. Well, chances are you don't know what you are talking about. Please go look at some of the shorewall mailing list archives. People implement some very complex configurations with shorewall. Besides, shorewall also allows you to do some neat things like have a layer-2 bridge that also does layer-3 filtering very easily. Doing layer-3 filtering in a layer-2 device is technically a violation of the network model, but is very handy nonetheless. Regards, -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sanchez http://people.connexer.com/~roberto http://www.connexer.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Firestarter VS Shorewall
Jordi writes: To have a good hardware firewall buy a good router-switch or a specific hardware device. To have a good hardware firewall buy a cheap used pc, install Linux on it, and configure it as a router and firewall. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: XP Blocking CD Boot
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thomas H. George wrote: I built a new computer with two hard drives and installed XP Home Edition on the first drive. The second drive contains my Debian system - kernel 2.6.17 and Testing. I intended to use disc 1 of a Sarge installation set as a rescue disk to access hdb and run lilo to convert this box to a dual boot box. After XP was installed the system will no longer boot from a CD. Even after I entered BIOS setup and changed the first, second and third boot choices to CDROM the system still persists in booting from the hard drive. What can I do to regain control? Tom George It has to be your BIOS. XP cannot change how your computer boots other than modifying the MBR of the primary HD, which _could_ cause your computer not to see your Debian, but you still should be able to boot from CD. Unless your BIOS is messed up. Another solution would be to go to http://goodbye-windows.com/ and run the Debian.exe file that is available there. It will install a Debain Etch system for you (Net install). Joe - -- Registerd Linux user #443289 at http://counter.li.org/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFF6Ym9iXBCVWpc5J4RAtaHAJsHr75Tlne/9PnMNHF3qC9cO6HCiwCgmOtN iqzY+UNmwenJjaajS/B/D60= =ruc4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
XP Blocking CD Boot
I built a new computer with two hard drives and installed XP Home Edition on the first drive. The second drive contains my Debian system - kernel 2.6.17 and Testing. I intended to use disc 1 of a Sarge installation set as a rescue disk to access hdb and run lilo to convert this box to a dual boot box. After XP was installed the system will no longer boot from a CD. Even after I entered BIOS setup and changed the first, second and third boot choices to CDROM the system still persists in booting from the hard drive. What can I do to regain control? Tom George -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Firestarter VS Shorewall
On 3-mrt-2007, at 14:52, John Hasler wrote: Jordi writes: To have a good hardware firewall buy a good router-switch or a specific hardware device. To have a good hardware firewall buy a cheap used pc, install Linux on it, and configure it as a router and firewall. -- Or, if you like ease of use (great web based GUI) combined with powerfull functions out of the box, commit adultery and install m0n0wall (based on freebsd). Keeps me happy. I use an old pII with 64MB and 3 3com fast ethernet cards, wan up download and heavy traffic between lan DMZ runs flawless with the processor never getting above 30%. Peter -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: XP Blocking CD Boot
Joe Hart wrote: Thomas H. George wrote: I built a new computer with two hard drives and installed XP Home Edition on the first drive. The second drive contains my Debian system - kernel 2.6.17 and Testing. I intended to use disc 1 of a Sarge installation set as a rescue disk to access hdb and run lilo to convert this box to a dual boot box. After XP was installed the system will no longer boot from a CD. Even after I entered BIOS setup and changed the first, second and third boot choices to CDROM the system still persists in booting from the hard drive. What can I do to regain control? Tom George It has to be your BIOS. XP cannot change how your computer boots other than modifying the MBR of the primary HD, which _could_ cause your computer not to see your Debian, but you still should be able to boot from CD. Unless your BIOS is messed up. True, however if the CD is bad (scratched ?) , the bios might have some hidden, automatic fallback which makes it boot from the first hard-drive. Make sure the CD is still bootable, e.g. by trying it on some other machine. Also, check the cables on your CD-drive. -- Håkon Alstadheim http://alstadheim.priv.no/hakon/ spamtrap: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- 1 hit you are out -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Two identical usb networking cards problem
On Sat, 2007-03-03 at 14:54 +0100, Franck Joncourt wrote:
On Sat, Mar 03, 2007 at 02:19:20PM +0100, David Fokkema wrote:
Hi group,
Hi,
snip
Take a look here :
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=403706
Thanks! That was insightful.
The following commands are your friends :
# ip link
or
# ifconfig -a
I fail to see what the former can tell me other than what netstat -ie
can, for example...
If you can see an interface names as ethX_rename or something like that,
it means udev mess it up. You can fix it, by writing udev rules. This is
the way I do to ensure my interfaces get the right name.
Nope, everythings ok there.
By the way, you can see the name supply by udev :
sid:/var/lib# cat /etc/udev/rules.d/z25_persistent-net.rules
# This file was automatically generated by the /lib/udev/write_net_rules
# program, probably run by the persistent-net-generator.rules rules
# file.
#
# You can modify it, as long as you keep each rule on a single line.
# Firewire device 0011d8b05f6c (ohci1394)
SUBSYSTEM==net, DRIVERS==?*,
ATTRS{address}==00:11:d8:00:00:b0:5f:6c, NAME=eth0
# PCI device 0x10de:0x0373 (forcedeth)
#SUBSYSTEM==net, DRIVERS==?*, ATTRS{address}==00:17:31:a4:0b:4e,
NAME=eth1
# PCI device 0x10de:0x0373 (forcedeth)
#SUBSYSTEM==net, DRIVERS==?*, ATTRS{address}==00:17:31:a3:ff:31,
NAME=eth2
# PCI device 0x1113:0x1211 (8139too)
#SUBSYSTEM==net, DRIVERS==?*, ATTRS{address}==00:10:b5:e1:5c:e5,
NAME=eth3
# PCI device 0x10ec:0x8139 (8139too)
#SUBSYSTEM==net, DRIVERS==?*, ATTRS{address}==00:08:a1:96:82:35,
NAME=eth4
Yes, I have a similar file.
Hope it helps.
It does, thank you. I will add 'auto' lines next to the 'allow-hotplug'
lines in my config.
Still leaves me with one question: how do I figure out which
daemon/script brings up my interfaces at what time?
Thanks,
David
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Re: Two identical usb networking cards problem
David Fokkema wrote: Still leaves me with one question: how do I figure out which daemon/script brings up my interfaces at what time? Thanks, David /etc/init.d/networking is the script. The order of the scripts is controlled by the order in which they appear in the relevant run level directory /etc/rc(runlevel).d. The SXXscript 'starts' the script KXXscript stops it. These links are run in numerical order of the XX. HTH Wackojacko -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Two identical usb networking cards problem
On Sat, 2007-03-03 at 15:37 +, Wackojacko wrote: David Fokkema wrote: Still leaves me with one question: how do I figure out which daemon/script brings up my interfaces at what time? Thanks, David /etc/init.d/networking is the script. The order of the scripts is controlled by the order in which they appear in the relevant run level directory /etc/rc(runlevel).d. The SXXscript 'starts' the script KXXscript stops it. These links are run in numerical order of the XX. This script only runs 'ifup -a', as far as I can tell. Ifup won't log which devices it upped. Furthermore, 'ifup -a' never ups my usb nets eth1 and eth2 when I ssh in, down eth1 and eth2 and then issue 'ifup -a'. However, one of them is always up when my system finishes booting. How can that be? David HTH Wackojacko -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Configurable files and functions
On Fri, 2007-03-02 at 12:33 -0600, Dave Walker wrote: I am looking for an explanatory list of configuration files used in sarge 3.1. The information I am looking for would give the location (path), function (what the system uses it for), and whether the file can be successfully changed by editing. Does such a list exist? I have in mind such files as .bashrc and .bash_profile and I am sure there are many others that I will encounter. Is it time for me to buy a reference book containing this info? If so, which one? I do plan to upgrade to Etch as soon as it is the stable release, so if a book is available for sarge, would it be useful for etch? There's no comprehensive list of configuration files because there are 17,000 packages available for Debian, many of which have their own configurations, some of which over-ride others in certain cases. No one person is going to use or need to know about configurations for software he's never going to install. If you want a solid, comprehensive reference for common, standard commands and configurations, check out Unix in a Nutshell, Fourth Edition by Arnold Robbins (O'Reilly). It's not Debian-specific, but has a lot of information useful for anyone running Unix variants including Linux. It has chapters on the various shells and their specific features, overviews of package management (apt, rpm, Mac OS X, etc.), usage summaries of vim emacs, sed awk, and a handy alphabetical summary of commands for GNU/Linux, Solaris, OS X, and Java. And more. Another very useful book for learning the basics is A Practical Guide to Linux Commands, Editors, and Shell Programming by Mark G. Sobel (Prentice Hall), which is more of a tutorial-based type book than a reference work. But it does have a great glossary and a command reference, which provides a detailed overview of utilities sorted by function (Utilities That Display Manipulate Files, Network Utilities, etc.). It gives arguments, options and usage examples for each of these. That's in addition to more in-depth coverage of shells, editors, and shell programming functions. Finally, The Debian System: Concepts Techniques by Martin F. Krafft (Open Source Press/No Starch Press) is an excellent overview of how Debian works. Yes, some of it is a little dated at this point, but Krafft includes some information about features new to Etch even though it was published after Sarge's release, and for most of the material, not much has changed. Since it really does focus on concepts and techniques rather than, say, how to configure XF86 (which has been replaced by xorg in Etch), most of what he explains carries over to Etch and beyond. It's really a here's how Debian does things kind of book and will provide all but the most advanced/experienced users with a solid understanding of Debian fundamentals. IMO, either the first or second book, plus the third, will teach you a great deal about Unix/Linux in general and Debian specifically, so that you won't miss not having a comprehensive list of config files. You'll know where to look for them and how to configure them if you spend time with these books. You'll certainly learn all about .bashrc .bash_profile, and much more. A really nice feature for the newbie documentation project many have been discussing on this list would be essential Debian bookshelf recommendations. -- Michael M. ++ Portland, OR ++ USA No live organism can continue for long to exist sanely under conditions of absolute reality; even larks and katydids are supposed, by some, to dream. --S. Jackson -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Firestarter VS Shorewall
Peter writes: Or, if you like ease of use (great web based GUI)... I do not want a Web server running on my router. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Two identical usb networking cards problem
David Fokkema wrote: On Sat, 2007-03-03 at 15:37 +, Wackojacko wrote: David Fokkema wrote: Still leaves me with one question: how do I figure out which daemon/script brings up my interfaces at what time? Thanks, David /etc/init.d/networking is the script. The order of the scripts is controlled by the order in which they appear in the relevant run level directory /etc/rc(runlevel).d. The SXXscript 'starts' the script KXXscript stops it. These links are run in numerical order of the XX. This script only runs 'ifup -a', as far as I can tell. Ifup won't log which devices it upped. Furthermore, 'ifup -a' never ups my usb nets eth1 and eth2 when I ssh in, down eth1 and eth2 and then issue 'ifup -a'. However, one of them is always up when my system finishes booting. How can that be? Hmm! from man ifup '-a, --all If given to ifup, affect all interfaces marked auto. Interfaces are brought up in the order in which they are defined in /etc/network/interfaces.' man interfaces 'Lines beginning with the word auto are used to identify the physical interfaces to be brought up when ifup is run with the -a option. (This option is used by the system boot scripts.) Physical interface names should follow the word auto on the same line. There can be multiple auto stanzas. ifup brings the named interfaces up in the order listed. Lines beginning with allow- are used to identify interfaces that should be brought up automatically by various subsytems. This may be done using a command such as ifup --allow=hotplug eth0 eth1, which will only bring up eth0 or eth1 if it is listed in an allow-hotplug line. Note that allow-auto and auto are synonyms.' So ifup -a will only bring up all the interfaces marked 'auto' as you have discovered. allow-hotplug passes the task of bringing up of the interface to udev (as this now incorporates hotplug) so /etc/init.d/udev is the script that starts the deamon. As to why this doesn't work and the 'auto' does, its probably something to do with the udev rules used to identify the interfaces. I don't have usb interfaces and am not a udev expert so I don't know how much more help I can be :) Regards Wackojacko -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A very simple documentation framework
On Sat, 03 Mar 2007 03:36:01 -0500, cga2000 wrote: Check out AsciiDoc. If you don't believe that everything behind it was just plain text, check out the AsciiDoc Markup Syntax Quick Summary http://xpt.sourceforge.net/techdocs/nix/asciidoc-syn/ascs01-AsciiDocMarkupSyntaxQuickSummary/ Actually, in my setup at least, the Dark Background document looks absolutely great in a text browser such as elinks. Have you check it out in GUI browsers as well, for the embedded images? Maybe another concern of mine is that LaTeX and DocBook are technologies that won't go away any time soon.. And this guarantees that both the time I spend rewriting my .txt documents in either of these, and the time spent acquiring some fluency using them is not entirely wasted. Right now, my preference would probably be DocBook over LaTeX since it clearly separates content and formatting... Seems that I didn't make it quite clear. The above AsciiDoc Markup Syntax Quick Summary shows how simple it is to produce stunning effects via just plain text. In fact the source (for making the html or whatever) looks nothing like any markup language but plain text. You almost don't need to learn anything, well I mean the markup language -- just learn how to format your text content. Further, you can produce html or DocBook/LaTeX source from AsciiDoc, and even *nix man pages. All in all, check out AsciiDoc http://www.methods.co.nz/asciidoc/ and see if its simple formatting fits all your need for your simple documentation framework, before submerging into something *much* more complicated. If it doesn't seem to meet all your need, I recommend to go directly to Latex. Because the documents that you've seen on xpt.sourceforge.net and AsciiDoc sites are actually produced by DocBook. On xpt.sourceforge.net the separated pages with TOC is produced by DocBook (from AsciiDoc source). The single file versions are produced directly by AsciiDoc. Check out the difference at http://xpt.sourceforge.net/techdocs/nix/asciidoc-usg/ascu03-SourceCodeHighlighting/ar01s04.html#id2497513 and compare with the single file version link from the bottom of the page. If you do need Latex, then maybe the All You Need to Know about Latex http://xpt.sourceforge.net/techdocs/language/latex/ might give you somewhat easier start. That is in fact what all I need to know when writing my master thesis. HTH -- Tong (remove underscore(s) to reply) http://xpt.sf.net/techdocs/ http://xpt.sf.net/tools/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Two identical usb networking cards problem
On Sat, 2007-03-03 at 16:13 +, Wackojacko wrote: David Fokkema wrote: On Sat, 2007-03-03 at 15:37 +, Wackojacko wrote: David Fokkema wrote: Still leaves me with one question: how do I figure out which daemon/script brings up my interfaces at what time? Thanks, David /etc/init.d/networking is the script. The order of the scripts is controlled by the order in which they appear in the relevant run level directory /etc/rc(runlevel).d. The SXXscript 'starts' the script KXXscript stops it. These links are run in numerical order of the XX. This script only runs 'ifup -a', as far as I can tell. Ifup won't log which devices it upped. Furthermore, 'ifup -a' never ups my usb nets eth1 and eth2 when I ssh in, down eth1 and eth2 and then issue 'ifup -a'. However, one of them is always up when my system finishes booting. How can that be? Hmm! from man ifup '-a, --all If given to ifup, affect all interfaces marked auto. Interfaces are brought up in the order in which they are defined in /etc/network/interfaces.' man interfaces 'Lines beginning with the word auto are used to identify the physical interfaces to be brought up when ifup is run with the -a option. (This option is used by the system boot scripts.) Physical interface names should follow the word auto on the same line. There can be multiple auto stanzas. ifup brings the named interfaces up in the order listed. Lines beginning with allow- are used to identify interfaces that should be brought up automatically by various subsytems. This may be done using a command such as ifup --allow=hotplug eth0 eth1, which will only bring up eth0 or eth1 if it is listed in an allow-hotplug line. Note that allow-auto and auto are synonyms.' So ifup -a will only bring up all the interfaces marked 'auto' as you have discovered. allow-hotplug passes the task of bringing up of the interface to udev (as this now incorporates hotplug) so /etc/init.d/udev is the script that starts the deamon. As to why this doesn't work and the 'auto' does, its probably something to do with the udev rules used to identify the interfaces. I don't have usb interfaces and am not a udev expert so I don't know how much more help I can be :) I have the same feeling. Reading through the documentation I believe I get a feeling for how it works, but looking through the logs (there _are_ udev logs and I modified net.agent to log the interface it is operating on) no devices are brought up by udev (unless I yank it out and insert it again in my usb hub). So... what happens? It is irritating to discover that linux does not log everything (as I always tell windows users who're tracking down fathomable problems). Regards Wackojacko Thanks! David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Two identical usb networking cards problem
David Fokkema wrote: It is irritating to discover that linux does not log everything (as I always tell windows users who're tracking down fathomable problems). David Just had a quick look at /etc/udev/ and it may be worth uncommenting the log lines in some or all of the files here. e.g. the last line of hotplug.rules has an additional logging function, it may help you track down what happens when you insert the device which is not happening on boot? HTH Wackojacko -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What's the best way to backup to dvd?
On Sat, 2007-03-03 at 13:56 +0100, Joe Hart wrote: After spending some time searching, I have to agree with you. It seems that it is legal to install deCSS, it is not illegal to distribute it, which means that whichever website you get it from is breaking the law, but you are not by downloading it. It seems to be very much like the films and movies here. According to what I have read, it is a first amendment issue, which of course only applies in the US. It's a bit like finders keepers. You find the software, you can keep it, but you're not aloud to lose it. The first test of the DMCA here in the U.S. was the 2600 case. 2600 is a hacker magazine that published DeCSS code on its website and was sued by the MPAA. Unfortunately, the First Amendment defense failed to protect the magazine. The judge ruled that while computer code is clearly speech, it is not protected speech because of its nature. Despite the First Amendment, all speech is not created equal. Commercial speech, for example, is subject to extra restrictions so that a company can't (legally) promote a product as a cure for cancer if it is not, in fact, a cure for cancer. But it does strike me as odd that in the U.S., it is legal to explain how to make a bomb, or legal to claim that Holocaust never happened, but it is illegal to explain how to watch an encrypted DVD on a device that doesn't have CSS built-in. As you said, weird laws. European countries have a different approach to the issue of speech, so I was curious about how the copyright cartels are managing to press their agenda in light of that approach. It seems to me they are just as successful there as they have been here. But then as Steve Jobs noted, if the Europeans really wanted to get rid of DRM and have interoperability between audio playback devices, they have that power. After all, three of the big four music distributors are European-owned (UMG is owned by French company Vivendi, Sony/BMG is jointly owned by Sony of Japan and BMG of Germany, and EMI is British [1]). I confess I get a little tired of Europeans blaming the U.S. and the RIAA for the situation when the companies controlling the purse strings are mostly in Europe's yard. Follow the money, and you'll see who is *really* benefitting from draconian DRM and laws designed to protect it. It doesn't really matter to me because I feel that it's my right to use my computer however I see fit as long as I don't affect other computers in the process. Playing media has no effect on other computers, unless of course I'm streaming it. I agree. [1] The fourth, Warner Music, is no longer a part of American company Time Warner. It's owned by Edgar Bronfman, a Canadian, and his investors. -- Michael M. ++ Portland, OR ++ USA No live organism can continue for long to exist sanely under conditions of absolute reality; even larks and katydids are supposed, by some, to dream. --S. Jackson -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Two identical usb networking cards problem
On Sat, Mar 03, 2007 at 04:34:37PM +, Wackojacko wrote: David Fokkema wrote: It is irritating to discover that linux does not log everything (as I always tell windows users who're tracking down fathomable problems). David Just had a quick look at /etc/udev/ and it may be worth uncommenting the log lines in some or all of the files here. e.g. the last line of hotplug.rules has an additional logging function, it may help you track down what happens when you insert the device which is not happening on boot? Maybe you can try with the following rule, if the above solution does not work : SUBSYSTEM==net, ACTION==add, RUN+=/bin/sh -c 'echo FOUND NETWORK INTERFACE %k /dev/console' I did not test it :p! But it might help. -- Franck Joncourt http://www.debian.org http://smhteam.info/wiki/ GPG server : pgpkeys.mit.edu Fingerprint : C10E D1D0 EF70 0A2A CACF 9A3C C490 534E 75C0 89FE signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Grub: menu character sizes
Hi, Grub's menu uses 80x25 character sizes on its menu. I would like to change that to something smaller. Trying 'terminal --lines=50' does nothing. Anybody gotten grub to put smaller characters on its menu? Hugo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Two identical usb networking cards problem
On Sat, 2007-03-03 at 18:02 +0100, Franck Joncourt wrote: On Sat, Mar 03, 2007 at 04:34:37PM +, Wackojacko wrote: David Fokkema wrote: It is irritating to discover that linux does not log everything (as I always tell windows users who're tracking down fathomable problems). David Just had a quick look at /etc/udev/ and it may be worth uncommenting the log lines in some or all of the files here. e.g. the last line of hotplug.rules has an additional logging function, it may help you track down what happens when you insert the device which is not happening on boot? That's helpful! I edited udev.conf to enable logging, but this might even be better! I'll try that, thanks! Maybe you can try with the following rule, if the above solution does not work : SUBSYSTEM==net, ACTION==add, RUN+=/bin/sh -c 'echo FOUND NETWORK INTERFACE %k /dev/console' I did not test it :p! But it might help. Nice! If the above does not work, I'll try this one, thanks! David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: where does kmail keep its mail files?
andy wrote: snip The only other suggestion I had from the KDE list when I wanted to move mail, was to look in /home/user.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail . That's a bit hit and miss, but you might find it there. Nigel. Thanks Nigel - you hit the nail on the head. Much obliged A If you are thinking about backing up data as well as moving mail data to another system you will also need to grab the config file: ~/.kde/share/config/kmailrc regards Jan -- ** Do NOT use the reply-to address. You'll end up in the trash can ** Mail me at: jan A.T schledermann D0T org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: Here we go again.
Roberto C. Sanchez [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 07:57:26PM -0500, Curt Howland wrote: Mr. Sanchez, it is now very clear one of the reasons these off-topic postings have been going on so long: You are utterly ignorant of the reality of politics. Just because I consider it wrong to coerce others, in no way effects the right of any being to effectively and violently defend itself against those who _DO_ choose to use coercion. Assuming a peaceful man is a pacifist is irrational. Didn't you ever watch _Kung Fu_ as a kid? Right, and the section that you quoted included this phrase: under any circumstances, to initiate force against another human being To me, that disallows self-defense. If I get punched in the face and I As in, _someone initiates force_ against you ... decide to realiate, then I have initiated force against my attacker. Retaliation is not initiation. You are entirely within your rights to defend yourself. You'd be a fool not to. Now, that is in response to his attack and so is in self-defense. However, I still have to initiate [something]. You may be initiating the courage to stand up against your attacker, but that's something else altogether. idea of my political views. Can you cut me a break for an honest mistake? Not when you continue to make them. Self-defence is not initiation of force. IFF English isn't your mother tongue (I don't know), I'd happily cut you slack for that. If so, this is merely a language based misunderstanding. My expertise is sorely lacking in foreign language skills, and I envy those (such as you?) who manage as well as they do in this often ridiculous language. Many twenty-somethings who were born into it do far worse these days. -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)http://www.spots.ab.ca/~keeling Linux Counter #80292 - -http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.htmlPlease, don't Cc: me. Spammers! http://www.spots.ab.ca/~keeling/emails.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [SOLVED] linux-image-2.6-486 vs. linux-image -2.6-x
Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 06:18:13AM -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 10:44:33AM -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Hi, Is there a place where the difference between these latest kernel binary images is documented, other than looking thru the config files or the descriptions of the packages. When I install Etch on my machine from the daily built, it pulls in -486. With that and grub I can boot into a USB disk. But when I install linux-image-2.6-k7 (my processor) the boot will fail, because he cannot find the root device, meaning the initrd failed somehow. The issue is the use of an USB harddrive. yes, this is more than trivial at this point, I think. Linux-image-4-486 has no problems when used on a USB disk partition on which Etch is installed with the daily-built d-i. I always boots right. However... When I install the same linux-image-4-486 on an older partition that now runs 2.6.20-ck1 and only refers to the USB disk from /etc/fstab, the boot will fail 50% of the time because he just doesn't wait long enough for the device to show up and changing mkinitrd.conf with DELAY=10 and running update-initramfs -u did not change anything. Also when I use yaird instead there is never any problem exept for the poor behavior of yaird: see http://wiki.debian.org/USB-HD_Boot_Full_Debian?highlight=%28USB%29 and: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2006/05/msg01557.html I'm sorry I'm very confused as to what exactly you are trying to do here. Are you using /boot from the hard-disk and then using / on USB or what? A I have a PATA disk (80GB) in a USB enclosure: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817145657 The problem exists in booting a Debian stock kernel *either* from the USB disk itself (it shows up as /dev/sda and I have 6 partitions on it) *or* from another HD with the USB disk referenced in /etc/fstab. If you boot from a USB disk partition with a stock kernel he cannot find the root device. When you boot with a stock kernel from another HD and have the USB disk referenced then he reports a bad superblock on the device. But it is a mixed bag: I get those errors with a fullblown Sid system ( i.e. everything installed including X). I do *not* get those errors when I do a minimum Etch install to the USB disk, dist-upgrade to Sid and install another stock kernel. Neither do I have problems with my own compiled 2.6.20-ck1 kernel + yaird as initrd. (But yaird has other problems: I don't know how to upgrade the system with that as initrd) *That* was George Hein's solution. I would prefer to run stock kernels, but under all conditions they have to work with the USB disk, it seems. But see this: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=401916 But the patch fits but gets a PANIC! So do this: In you favorite editor edit /usr/share/initramfs-tools/scripts/local and under line 9 add: echo Self-imposed wait of 15s... /bin/sleep 15.0 save and run update-initramfs -u Viola! Now you can run any Debian stock kernel on a USB disk. It will show the message, wait 15secs (actually 10 would do) and merrily load any USB disk files. I.ve updated http://wiki.debian.org/USB-HD_Boot_Full_Debian?highlight=%28USB%29 to reflect the fact that you can install and run a Debian Stock Kernel from USB disk but as of this date you must change the initrd image generated with initramfs-tools by changing the local script to extend the default wait. Also as of date the 'rootdelay' option does not work. In the future maybe it will. Hugo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Firestarter VS Shorewall
Thanks Andreas. I agree with most that you said, as I am very pragmatic on my needs. I think I will buy the router I said, wich looks a very strong router from security point of view, and plus install firestarter and some other utility if I need. And things sometimes are not so complex. For example, in Xubuntu you can install all in graphical mode, start the server through Terminal, and then, if you want to save more resources, it can be done through an option. So you exit the graphical environment and the server continues working, with all resources avaliable. To return to graphical GUI, just another command. So no need to masochism typing dozens of comands to do what you can graphicaly, at least when you have your pc at hand like me. Yes I know most people may say this is not profesional, and I am missing learning lots of shell comands, but I know enough, and I already have to have so many things in mind, so this would be a RESOURCE LEAK for my brain hahahaha!! Anyway, please give me opinions about the router by SMC Networks: 7904WBRA2 http://www.smc.com/index.cfm?event=viewProductlocaleCode=EN_USApid=1588 Thanks Jordi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: Here we go again.
On Sat, Mar 03, 2007 at 05:22:21PM +, s. keeling wrote: Right, and the section that you quoted included this phrase: under any circumstances, to initiate force against another human being To me, that disallows self-defense. If I get punched in the face and I As in, _someone initiates force_ against you ... Right. Curt already explained initiate was meant in the legal sense. decide to realiate, then I have initiated force against my attacker. Retaliation is not initiation. You are entirely within your rights to defend yourself. You'd be a fool not to. I *completely* agree with you here. Again, I misunderstood the original passage. Now, that is in response to his attack and so is in self-defense. However, I still have to initiate [something]. You may be initiating the courage to stand up against your attacker, but that's something else altogether. And that thinking initiating the response to the attacker is what lead me to believe that the initiate meant in the original quotation *included* self-defense. idea of my political views. Can you cut me a break for an honest mistake? Not when you continue to make them. Self-defence is not initiation of force. Continue? What other mistakes have I made? I am not claiming that I have not made mistakes. However, misunderstanding something quite so badly is not a mistake I think I have made previously, or even often enough to call it a continuing pattern. IFF English isn't your mother tongue (I don't know), I'd happily cut It is, along with Spanish. you slack for that. If so, this is merely a language based misunderstanding. My expertise is sorely lacking in foreign language skills, and I envy those (such as you?) who manage as well as they do in this often ridiculous language. Many twenty-somethings who were born into it do far worse these days. Well, my misunderstanding was based confusing the common language use of initiate with the legal use of initiate. From the context it was impossible to distinguish which was the intended reading. This is a problem that exists in many languages besides English. Regards, -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sanchez http://people.connexer.com/~roberto http://www.connexer.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Wired and wireless PCMCIA LAN cards: configuration problems
On Sat, Mar 03, 2007 at 10:04:26AM +, Ken Heard wrote: Consequently, for the duration I wanted to replace the aforementioned D-Link card with a wireless PCMCIA card (SMC model 2853W 802.11g, 2.4 gH, 54 mbps). Unfortunately, I have so far been unable to connect my laptop to the wireless LAN in the building. What I did to try to establish a connection follows. lot of snippage Iwconfig returned the following: lono wireless extensions. irda0 no wireless extensions. eth0 NOT READY! ESSID:off/any Mode:Managed Channel:0 Access Point: Not-Associated Tx-Power=31 dBm Sensitivity=0/200 Retry min limit:0 RTS thr=0 B Fragment thr=0 B Encryption key:ABCD-E123-44 Security mode:restricted Link Quality:0 Signal level:0 Noise level:0 Rx invalid nwid:0 Rx invalid crypt:0 Rx invalid frag:0 Tx excessive retries:0 Invalid misc:0 Missed beacon:0 sit0 no wireless extensions. This looks like the card is recognized but I've never used a G card to know if everything is ok. I've only used a orinoco (B card). snippage Examination of the messages which scrolled by while booting up revealed the following, which by the way did not appear in the syslog file, or show in dmesg: Configuring network interfaces ... /etc/network/interfaces:10: misplaced option ifup: couldn't read interfaces file /etc/network/interfaces Running ifup eth0 returns the same, with the exception of the text preceding the elipsis. The file /etc/network/interfaces reads as follows: 1 # This file describes the network interfaces available on your system 2 # and how to activate them. For more information, see interfaces(5). 3 4 # The loopback network interface 5 auto lo 6 iface lo inet loopback 7 8 # The primary network interface 9 allow-hotplug eth0 10 address 127.0.0.1 11 netmask 255.0.0.0 Line 10 and 11 are not needed, and some bug report is needed, when possible. 12 iface eth0 inet dhcp 13 14 15 auto eth0 When I commented out line 10, ifup eth0 returned the same as above, with number 11 replacing 10. When I commented out both lines 10 and 11, ifup eth0 tried to ping to the network. I did this test while unconnected; I am sure that if I had been connected the pings would have received a positive response. As pinnedped said: some gui tools do strange thing with the /etc/network/interfaces. So using the command line tools is the only reliable way, at least in my experiece. ifconfig, iwconfig, ifup,ifdown and the other iw-tools are what i use untill I find a GUI that works. With the D-Link card installed ifconfig returns the following: eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:50:BA:78:00:6D inet6 addr: fe80::250:baff:fe78:6d/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:33 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:0 (0.0 b) TX bytes:6344 (6.1 KiB) Interrupt:10 Base address:0x300 This looks fine. In any event, I can get the D-Link card to connect, even though I have to open to my user before installing it. On the other hand I cannot connect with either of the two wireless cards I tried. The priority task is to get a wireless connection. I would certainly appreciate all the help I can get to be able to do so. I would also like to be able to switch from one card to the other without difficulty, by obviating the problem mentioned in the proceeding paragraph. You might want to try some 'testing' while we folks find a solution: 1) see if you can ask the other person to try your wifi card in his/her machine to see if that person can get a good result: the card is not defective and works with a linux 2) see if the wifi owner would turn off secutiry (ASCII key) for a small test to see if that help: the card works but the secuirty is not entered correctly HTH -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal |mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/| | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keyserver: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | signature.asc Description: Digital signature
trouble connecting to some wifi access points
I am having trouble connecting to one of the wifi APs in my neighborhood. Following is my connection script. sudo iwconfig ath0 essid linksys sudo iwconfig ath0 ap 00:18:39:20:29:CA sudo dhclient ath0 sudo iwlist ath0 scan sudo ping xspace.com Following is the output when I run the script: sit0: unknown hardware address type 776 wifi0: unknown hardware address type 801 sit0: unknown hardware address type 776 wifi0: unknown hardware address type 801 Listening on LPF/ath0/00:0d:88:bb:51:91 Sending on LPF/ath0/00:0d:88:bb:51:91 Sending on Socket/fallback/fallback-net DHCPREQUEST on ath0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 DHCPREQUEST on ath0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 DHCPDISCOVER on ath0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 4 DHCPOFFER from 192.168.1.1 DHCPREQUEST on ath0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 DHCPACK from 192.168.1.1 bound to 192.168.1.109 -- renewal in 43200 seconds. ath0 Scan completed : Cell 01 - Address: 00:18:39:20:29:CA ESSID:linksys Mode:Master Frequency:2.437 GHz (Channel 6) Quality=34/94 Signal level=-61 dBm Noise level=-95 dBm Encryption key:off Bit Rates:1 Mb/s; 2 Mb/s; 5.5 Mb/s; 11 Mb/s; 6 Mb/s 9 Mb/s; 12 Mb/s; 18 Mb/s; 24 Mb/s; 36 Mb/s 48 Mb/s; 54 Mb/s Extra:bcn_int=100 But when i try to use the seeming connection, there is nothing. For most of the APs to which I attempt to connect, everything is fine, but in a few cases like this one I can't connect. Thanks very much in advance, tom arnall north spit, ca usa -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Two identical usb networking cards problem
On Sat, Mar 03, 2007 at 05:27:04PM +0100, David Fokkema wrote: On Sat, 2007-03-03 at 16:13 +, Wackojacko wrote: David Fokkema wrote: On Sat, 2007-03-03 at 15:37 +, Wackojacko wrote: David Fokkema wrote: Still leaves me with one question: how do I figure out which daemon/script brings up my interfaces at what time? Thanks, David /etc/init.d/networking is the script. The order of the scripts is controlled by the order in which they appear in the relevant run level directory /etc/rc(runlevel).d. The SXXscript 'starts' the script KXXscript stops it. These links are run in numerical order of the XX. This script only runs 'ifup -a', as far as I can tell. Ifup won't log which devices it upped. Furthermore, 'ifup -a' never ups my usb nets eth1 and eth2 when I ssh in, down eth1 and eth2 and then issue 'ifup -a'. However, one of them is always up when my system finishes booting. How can that be? Hmm! from man ifup '-a, --all If given to ifup, affect all interfaces marked auto. Interfaces are brought up in the order in which they are defined in /etc/network/interfaces.' man interfaces 'Lines beginning with the word auto are used to identify the physical interfaces to be brought up when ifup is run with the -a option. (This option is used by the system boot scripts.) Physical interface names should follow the word auto on the same line. There can be multiple auto stanzas. ifup brings the named interfaces up in the order listed. Lines beginning with allow- are used to identify interfaces that should be brought up automatically by various subsytems. This may be done using a command such as ifup --allow=hotplug eth0 eth1, which will only bring up eth0 or eth1 if it is listed in an allow-hotplug line. Note that allow-auto and auto are synonyms.' So ifup -a will only bring up all the interfaces marked 'auto' as you have discovered. allow-hotplug passes the task of bringing up of the interface to udev (as this now incorporates hotplug) so /etc/init.d/udev is the script that starts the deamon. As to why this doesn't work and the 'auto' does, its probably something to do with the udev rules used to identify the interfaces. I don't have usb interfaces and am not a udev expert so I don't know how much more help I can be :) I have the same feeling. Reading through the documentation I believe I get a feeling for how it works, but looking through the logs (there _are_ udev logs and I modified net.agent to log the interface it is operating on) no devices are brought up by udev (unless I yank it out and insert it again in my usb hub). So... what happens? It is irritating to discover that linux does not log everything (as I always tell windows users who're tracking down fathomable problems). I have a vague impression that this may be related to the initrd. the kernel boots with the initrd and has script that do things like modprobe things related to say networking device then init is called and the runlevels do their thing. IIRC the initrd stuff is not logged, so that would explain why there is not messages and since this happends before the runlevels, you cant change the outcome. This is a bit of wild speculation as this is a fuzzy area in my understanding. Any further clarifictions welcomed. Udev always seems to be voodoo to use mortals. -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal |mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/| | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keyserver: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | signature.asc Description: Digital signature
