Re: deleting content of /tmp
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/25/07 20:48, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > On Sat, 24 Mar 2007, Ron Johnson wrote: >>> On the contrary. It makes it so that the only way that someone can get >>> to the file is by having cracked the kernel itself. That is, without >>> the file descriptor, no other process can get to the data. For example, >>> qemu does this. Lots of other programs do this as well for security. >>> They open the file, immediately unlink it and then the only access is >>> via the file descriptor. >> That reminds me of the Vietnam War philosophy "we had to destroy the >> village in order to save the village". It was bad "design" 40 years >> ago, it's a bad design now. > > No. You destroy the village in order for it not be able to bother you > anymore, because you care a lot more about your objectives than the people > in the village. > > And it is *excellent* design to unlink an open file depending on what you > want it for. It is the only failure-proof way to make sure temporary files > cannot be attacked from outside, and also that they will disappear if the > program crashes, exits, or has other problems. You can easily change that > to a "unlink on sucessfull exit" thing when running in debug mode, too. It's excellent only if your filesystem does not have rich-enough semantics to protect your files from outside snoops. > - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGB3vJS9HxQb37XmcRAjSyAJ46AboMCbnL58NTMMZpNMCRSN5yyACgj4ln bXIp6JISHhA532jpXiPj3Mo= =GM7k -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: a dumb query? pls humor me
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/25/07 22:39, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 18:41:22 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote in > [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> On 03/25/07 17:47, Arnt Karlsen wrote: [snip] >>> ..you deny the "Let's roll!"-people aboard flight UA93 their lawful KIA >>> status, when they "took up arms against the invading enemy." >> Who says the UA93 passengers were KIA? > > ..I do, under Art. 108 in the Norw. Military Penal Law (and its > equivalent in the US War Crimes Act and eq. military penal code), which > incorporates all full 4 Geneva Conventions and all their 3 Protocals > Additional, incorporating Article 4A(6) of the 3'rd Convention: > "(6) Inhabitants of a non-occupied territory, who on the approach of the > enemy spontaneously take up arms to resist the invading forces, without > having had time to form themselves into regular armed units, provided > they carry arms openly and respect the laws and customs of war." > http://www.icrc.org/ihl.nsf/WebART/375-590007?OpenDocument > http://www.icrc.org/ihl.nsf/COM/375-590007?OpenDocument Terrorists aren't invaders, the passengers didn't have any arms to carry. >> For one thing, those passengers weren't in the military, and another, > > ..on take-off, correct. On "Let's Roll!", they _became_ a lawful > military force. > >> their deaths were "other than the victim of a terrorist activity". > > ..yup, KIA, Arlington next. Really? You really believe that they were buried in Arlington National Cemetery? You've *got* to be jerking our chain. No one who is functional is as crazy as you appear to be. >> http://www.dtic.mil/doctrine/jel/doddict/data/k/02986.html >> killed in action >> (DOD) A casualty category applicable to a hostile casualty, other >> than the victim of a terrorist activity, who is killed outright or >> who dies as a result of wounds or other injuries before reaching a >> medical treatment facility. Also called KIA. See also casualty >> category. > > ..neocon BS snip by Sissy Boys trying to escape the US War Crimes Act. > > - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGB3lVS9HxQb37XmcRAqIcAJwLuXgPYPBqq7kc6TZjk5Bpx2rCbgCfUlB7 rt/JTNhhFc5Q7oyHh6XIhL0= =L4Uc -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: "I do consider Ubuntu to be Debian" , Ian Murdock
On Mon, 2007-03-26 at 00:30 -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > On Sun, Mar 25, 2007 at 11:26:08PM -0400, Greg Folkert wrote: > > On Sun, 2007-03-25 at 23:15 -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > > > On Mon, Mar 26, 2007 at 03:27:21PM +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: > > > > > > > > > that is the root of why dist-upgrade breaks a lot of the time, and it > > > > > isn't really a fault in Ubuntu, because they still provide their users > > > > > with a lot of other things Debian doesn't. A huge forum (Our mailing > > > > > list has nothing on their forum), commercial support (For Debian? Kind > > > > > > > > Disagree. Mailing lists are far superior. Try reading the forum offline! > > > > > > > Or via ssh in a terminal window. > > > > Or having even the console screwed up and having to use PuTTY from a > > Windows machine. > > > Or when employing an RFC2549-compliant connection :-) > > http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2549.html DAMMINT! watch out over head! -- greg, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Novell's Directory Services is a competitive product to Microsoft's Active Directory in much the same way that the Saturn V is a competitive product to those dinky little model rockets that kids light off down at the playfield. -- Thane Walkup
Re: What is this kernel error?
On Mon, 2007-03-26 at 00:46 -0400, Rick Pasotto wrote: > On Sun, Mar 25, 2007 at 11:23:15PM -0400, Greg Folkert wrote: > > On Sun, 2007-03-25 at 23:12 -0400, Kevin Mark wrote: > > > On Sun, Mar 25, 2007 at 08:56:21PM -0400, Rick Pasotto wrote: > > > > > > > My machine (desktop) was last booted 7 days ago. I rebooted because of > > > > the new kernel. That's why I pointed out the specific kernel. > > > > > > that is at least SOMETHING useful. If you have an issue after you > > > changed the kernel, then the 1st logical step is to try to boot with the > > > last kernel, assuming that it is possible and see if the issue still > > > happens. > > > > It is *X* and his screensaver. It took three seconds of typing in a > > Google search widget and reading a few things. > > *What* did you search for? *Where* did you search? When I searched for > the error on Google all I got was a single result that related it to > mplayer, which clearly was *not* relevant. > > > He was not able to even give us context *UNTIL* he said he left and > > *MAYBE* the screensaver kicked in and of all things, in a rant back to > > me. > > Maybe it was the phase of the moon! That comment about the screensaver > was meant to be satirical. > > Again, the screensaver has come on *many*, *many* times since the last > reboot. What is different about this time? Is it a particular > screensaver module? (I have it set to random so I never know which one > will fire up next.) If it is a particular module, has a bug report been > filed? It is related to your video card, your motherboard chipset, opengl, xorg and the enabled screensaver modules you might be running. I'd have to say since the error occurs in-frequently, it is one of the older screensavers that are not updated to properly use the new dri setups. The actual error occurs when the screensaver tries to have the video card do something the "old way". BTW, the compiled error is a combination of specific set of errors. Look in the current Debian source (drivers/char/drm/via_verifier.c), you'll see the cases around the problems. Lines 1001 and 1058. YOu can do your own back-tracing err stack tracing. Much of this code is via NDA protected as you can tell from: * Author: Thomas Hellstrom 2004, 2005. * This code was written using docs obtained under NDA from VIA Inc. And just below this we get: * Don't run this code directly on an AGP buffer. Due to cache problems it will * be very slow. So we know this deals with video on VIA chipsets. > > I guess we can't trust people to even look for themselves anymore. > > Don't make unfounded assumptions. You made many yourself, unfounded and absurd. > > Rick Pasotto has been round filed in my book. > > *You* started the nastiness with your snide comment in response to a > simple question. > > "Well, you know more than we do. We don't even have the machine at our > disposal." It wasn't even a snide remark. It was a simple "chuckle" and really that is all it was. Since you operate the machine. Down there in GA. > Maybe we should all post our boot.logs and syslogs and 'ps ax' (of > course it kinda hard to do that for x minutes ago) and who knows what > else for every little question we have. Would *that* be sufficient > context? I guess, when your blatant attempt to try to show my request as absurd, actually gave the proper context so I could search for it. > A little bit of *friendly* Q&A to zero in on the *relevant* context > might be more productive. You assumed it was *EVIL*. You *OBVIOUSLY* have quite a bit of "internet presence" to tell me you are exceptionally combative and argumentative. If you would pull back and just breathe, think and pause before you respond, I'll bet many a threads or e-mails or posts wouldn't be as "attacking poor Rick" as you think they are. BTW, was that really you, on that cybernetics e-mail address? And, no I am not picking a fight. You assume to much. I give everyone the "ask smarter questions" spiel when we cannot make heads or tales of the question. So, in the end, you appear to have jumped off the handle a bit soon. -- greg, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Novell's Directory Services is a competitive product to Microsoft's Active Directory in much the same way that the Saturn V is a competitive product to those dinky little model rockets that kids light off down at the playfield. -- Thane Walkup -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Using Asterisk in Debian to set up Conference Calling
Hi! } On 3/25/07, Alan Chandler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: } Is there really nobody on this list using asterisk and the Meetme } application? I use asterisk, but i've not already use meetme. I think that you could find a better community support looking at the asterisk mailing-list / forum. There are a lot of that, starting from the digium one: http://forums.digium.com/. Hope it helps you!
re: xfig exports buggy pictex?
Hi,
If I draw a figure in Xfig and export it to PicTex, LaTex is unable to
process the file. If I use and old PicTex file, LaTeX wqorks fine, but if
I open the original .fig file in Xfig and export it to PicTex, LaTeX bugs
with:
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/generic/pictex/postpictex.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/generic/pictex/picmore.tex)) (verslag.aux)
(centrifuge2.pictex
! Undefined control sequence.
...tsymbol ({\thinlinefont .}) {\color
[rgb]{0,0,0}\ellipticalarc...
l.431 \endpicture}
?
I am running up to date woody and just downloaded Xfig from Sid, but it
still does not work. Has anyone noticed this too? Should I downgrade xfig
to potato?
Greetz,
Sebastiaan
I know it's kind of... late, but...
I had this problem today. By adding \usepackege{color} the problem is
resolved.
[]s,
Marcos Lima
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i810 graphics problem (was: Second Install not going so well)
On Sun, Mar 25, 2007 at 13:17:29 -0400, Jan Sneep wrote: [...] > Well there were a few differences in terms of what I was asked during > the install. I'm guessing that the problem I'm having now has to do > with the display drivers. Last time the install couldn't sense what > the adapter was and asked me some questions about the physical size of > my monitor. This time it presented a list of adapters and I selected > the highlighted one. The display was sharp, in focus and perfect > during the install and while it is booting the text is perfect, then > at about the point that the login screen should appear the display > goes, not black, but a grainy grey with fine reddish streaks. > > The video adapter is built into the mother board and so I went to the > HP web site to see if I could find out what it is and this is what I > found; > > Video Graphics down (on motherboard) integrated in chipset. No AGP > slot. Attribute Properties Video graphics PCI local bus > Controller Intel 810 E Video memory 11 MB shared memory ; > > integrated graphics; > > not upgradable Feature connector (game/joystick) Yes Resolutions: > 640 x 480 16/256/32 K/64 K/16.7 M colors > 800 x 600 16/256/32 K/64 K colors > 1024 x 768 16/256/32 K/64 K colors > 1280 x 1024 256 colors > > So any idea how I can fix this problem without having to wipe the > drive and re-install (1.5 hours to download the 500 odd meg of files) > and then guess again as to the proper diver? There should be no need to reinstall (unless it turns out that Sarge is too old for your video card, but I don't think so). You have a configuration problem somewhere; maybe you are producing a video signal that is out of range for the monitor. Please post the output of the following three commands: lspci | egrep -i 'video|vga|display' awk '/Section "(Device|Monitor)"/,/EndSection/' /etc/X11/xorg.conf egrep '^\((EE|WW)\)' /var/log/XFree86.0.log -- Regards, Florian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What is this kernel error?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Rick Pasotto wrote: > On Sun, Mar 25, 2007 at 11:23:15PM -0400, Greg Folkert wrote: >> On Sun, 2007-03-25 at 23:12 -0400, Kevin Mark wrote: >>> On Sun, Mar 25, 2007 at 08:56:21PM -0400, Rick Pasotto wrote: >>> My machine (desktop) was last booted 7 days ago. I rebooted because of the new kernel. That's why I pointed out the specific kernel. >>> >>> that is at least SOMETHING useful. If you have an issue after you >>> changed the kernel, then the 1st logical step is to try to boot with the >>> last kernel, assuming that it is possible and see if the issue still >>> happens. >> It is *X* and his screensaver. It took three seconds of typing in a >> Google search widget and reading a few things. > > *What* did you search for? *Where* did you search? When I searched for > the error on Google all I got was a single result that related it to > mplayer, which clearly was *not* relevant. > >> He was not able to even give us context *UNTIL* he said he left and >> *MAYBE* the screensaver kicked in and of all things, in a rant back to >> me. > > Maybe it was the phase of the moon! That comment about the screensaver > was meant to be satirical. > > Again, the screensaver has come on *many*, *many* times since the last > reboot. What is different about this time? Is it a particular > screensaver module? (I have it set to random so I never know which one > will fire up next.) If it is a particular module, has a bug report been > filed? > >> I guess we can't trust people to even look for themselves anymore. > > Don't make unfounded assumptions. > >> Rick Pasotto has been round filed in my book. > > *You* started the nastiness with your snide comment in response to a > simple question. > > "Well, you know more than we do. We don't even have the machine at our > disposal." > > Maybe we should all post our boot.logs and syslogs and 'ps ax' (of > course it kinda hard to do that for x minutes ago) and who knows what > else for every little question we have. Would *that* be sufficient > context? > > A little bit of *friendly* Q&A to zero in on the *relevant* context > might be more productive. > Could we calm down a bit? IMO, Greg is right in saying we needed more information, and you are right in saying that the cause of the error was hard for you to pinpoint. What seems to be lacking here is the understanding of the first message, which was "Does anyone know what this error means" sort of question, not "How do I fix my problem" sort of question. I would like to know which terms Greg searched for as well. One can always refine their search ability. So at this point we can say. Rick still gets the error on occasion and Greg knows how to solve it, but won't tell Rick because he's upset with him. The comment "You know more than we do" was specific to your machine. He wasn't saying that you know more about Debian, he was saying you know more about what happens on your computer. Maybe I should just butt out since I also don't know what causes that error and don't run that kernel. Joe - -- Registerd Linux user #443289 at http://counter.li.org/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGB2sZiXBCVWpc5J4RAqUGAJ9mOGQNOZFx3Edo+aDOD5Hy1TxB5gCfaiSR J3Tl2Hg9mTKnK1wnfb1GGUI= =t8P4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: a dumb query? pls humor me
On Mon, Mar 26, 2007 at 05:10:19AM +, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 21:00:39 -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote in > [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > > > Well, let's see. Here is a list of every executive order published in > > 2001 [0]: > > > > > > Now, I read all the orders relating to anything military. Nothing in > > there about war crimes. > > ..interesting, both Adolf and Slobodan played similar games with words. > > ..anything on "international courts" or "the 4 Geneva Conventions"? > Nope. What I find interesting is that you claimed that Bush issued some executive allowing him to "evade" war crimes prosecution (or some such nonsense). Then, when I present you with a list of *all* the executive orders published, there is no such thing and you effectively claim that they are trying to hide it. Why don't you point us to this mythical executive order? > > Would that be the media that refuses to report any positive occurences > > ..try my method of balancing Fox against al-Jazeera, Xinhua, Kommersant, > CNN etc against the full 4 Geneva Conventions. ;o) > Yes, well your method is "flawed" to say the least. > > (like making neighborhoods safer, building power infrastructure, > > building schools, providing medical care, capturing bad guys and so on)? > > Because if it is the same media, I won't believe anything they say. What > > you fail to understand is that nearly everyone in the military takes the > > law *very* seriously. Now, just as in any large organization, there are > > a few bad apples. For example, just because someone at the telephone > > company sells a list of phone numbers to telemarketers does not mean > > that every single employee of the phone company is a criminal. Same with > > the military, as 99.9% of the people in uniform are decent, law abiding > > and doing their jobs in accordance with the law. > > ..see below. > > >> > Well, there is the whole thing about lawful combatants being required > >> > to wear a distinguishable uniform with distinctive insignia. > >> > >> ..one of these suffices, both together are preferred, and you deny the > >> "Let's roll!"-people aboard flight UA93 their lawful KIA status, when > >> they "took up arms against the invading enemy." > >> > > Umm, they were acting in self-defense. > > ..yes. > > > Big difference. > > ..no, self defence is _no_ different to _any_ other kinda bellingerence > in its requirement for _full_ compliance. > I don't get it. Who do you think was not complying in the UA93 situation? > > Of course, your > > continued ranting only serves to reinforce that you are either just > > intent on stirring the pot, or that you really don't get it. > > ..I am fully aware of the fact Sissy Boy George is trying to escape the > US War Crimes Act and the Coventions. Both authorize hanging. > You keep claiming this, but have not provided evidence. > > Any civilian, military, police or other authorities, who in time of > > ^^^ > > war assume responsibilities in respect of protected persons, must > > possess the text of the Convention and be specially instructed as to > > its provisions. > > > > Yup. Military police and lawyers receive extra training on the GCs. > > Having never been a police or a lawyer, however, I can't say whether > > they carry the text with them, but I imagine that they do. > > ..yes they are supposed to, and you're entitled to hang anyone to argues > them the way you do in the face of the language of the Conventions, just > go by the rules in them. > Right. I imagine that they would get hang you as well for constantly imaging things that are not there? > > What do you mean would have? > > .."going by the book" in full compliance of the full 4 Geneva Conventions > would have provided a firm and full legal foundation of Saddam's hanging, > even if he cooked laws to allow himself "Jew babies for dinner" kinda war > crimes. > Umm, considering that he was an Iraqi citizen, was tried by the Iraqis by a tribunal under the authority of Iraq's constitution, I'd say it was by the book. > > It did? > > ..no. > Yes. > > He was hanged. > > ..yes. Murder on a POW. > Really? And what competent legal authority says that he was a POW? > > Tried by the Iraqis. > > Remember? There were a couple of news reports about it. > > ..yes, illegally so. As a POW, he should have had an Article 90 hearing. > Again. Who makes the determination that he was a POW? > >> Will allow a fully lawful hanging of W and his entire regime, > > > > See, first you have to prove that he was involved in war crimes, which > > you have not. > > ..see below. > > >> Which is precisely why Sissy Boy George tries to destroy the US War > >> Crimes Act and the Conventions, NATO and the US. > >> > > You keep making this claim, but you can't provide evidence to that > > effect. > > ..I havent? Chk Google News for Iraq or Afghanistan
Re: a dumb query? pls humor me
On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 21:00:39 -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > On Sun, Mar 25, 2007 at 10:47:41PM +, Arnt Karlsen wrote: >> ..reposting, last try was lost in gmane's auth queue. >> >> >> On Mon, 19 Mar 2007 20:31:03 -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote in >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]: >> >> > Reference? Where has President Bush stated that war criminals should >> > not be prosecuted? >> >> >> ..here I should have said "US war criminals", Sissy Boy George decided >> back in October 2001 he wanted to be able to commit war crimes legally. >> Google for "executive orders 2001". >> >> > Well, let's see. Here is a list of every executive order published in > 2001 [0]: > > Dec. 29 Executive Order on Succession in the Department of > Veterans Affairs Dec. 29 Executive Order on Succession at the > Department of State Dec. 29 Executive Order on Succession at the > Department of Labor Dec. 29 Executive Order on Succession at the > Department of Housing and Urban Development Dec. 29 Executive > Order on Succession at the Department of Health and Human Services Dec. > 29 Executive Order on Succession at the Department of Interior > Dec. 29 Executive Order on Succession at the Department of > Commerce Dec. 29 Executive Order on Succession at Department of > Agriculture Dec. 29 Executive Order: Adjustments of Certain > Rates of Pay Dec. 29 Executive Order on Succession in Department > of Treasury Dec. 28 Executive Orders on Succession in Federal > Agencies Dec. 27 Normal Trade Relations Treatment Executive > Order Dec. 21 Council of Europe in Respect of the Group of > States Against Corruption Dec. 20 Executive Order Establishing > An Emergency Board Dec. 14 Afghanistan Combat Zone Executive > Order Dec. 6 Executive Order for Federal Government Closure on Dec 24 > Nov. 28 Executive Order: Creation of the President's Council on > Bioethics Nov. 27 Executive Order Waiver of Dual Compensation > Provisions of the Central Intelligence Agency Retirement Act of 1964 > Nov. 16 National Emergency Construction Authority Executive > Order Nov. 13 President Issues Military Order Nov. 9 Citizen > Preparedness in War on Terrorism Executive Order Nov. 1 Presidential > Records Act Executive Order Oct. 22 Executive Order for Dept of > Health and Human Services Oct. 16 Executive Order on Critical > Infrastructure Protection Oct. 12 Educational Excellence for > Hispanic Americans Commission Oct. 8 Executive Order Establishing > Office of Homeland Security Oct. 3 Executive Order on Excellence in > Special Education Oct. 1 Continuance of Federal Advisory Committees > Oct. 1 President Signs PCAST Executive Order Sept. 24Executive > Order on Terrorist Financing Sept. 14President Orders Ready > Reserves of Armed Forces to Active Duty Aug. 17 Executive Order > on Export Control Regulations Jul. 31 Energy Efficient Standby > Power Devices Jul. 2 Executive Order > Jun. 20 President Bush Issues Executive Order Regarding 21st > Century Workforce Initiative Jun. 19 President Bush Issues > Executive Order Regarding Community-Based Alternatives for Individuals > with Disabilities Jun. 6 Executive Order: Amendment To Executive Order > 13125 Jun. 1 Executive Order > May 29 President's Task Force to Improve Health Care Delivery for Our > Nation's Veterans May 23 Executive Order: Additional Measures with > Respect to Prohibiting the Importation of Rough Diamonds from Sierra > Leone May 18 Executive Order: Actions Concerning Regulations That > Significantly Affect Energy Supply, Distribution, or Use May 18 > Executive Order: Actions to Expedite Energy-Related Projects May 2 > Executive Order: President's Commission to Strengthen Social Security > Apr. 30 Executive Order: Establishment of the President's Task > Force on Puerto Rico's Status Apr. 6 Executive Order: Amendment to > Executive Order 13202 Apr. 5 Executive Order: Further Amendment to > Executive Order 1 Apr. 4 Executive Order: Termination of Emergency > Authority For Certain Export Controls Mar. 9 Executive Order: > Establishing an Emergency Board Feb. 21 Executive Order on > Preservation of Open Competition and Government Neutrality Towards > Government Contractors' Labor Relations on Federal and Federally Funded > Construction Projects Feb. 21 Executive Order on Notification of > Employee Rights Concerning Payment of Union Dues or Fees Feb. 21 > Executive Order: Revocation of Executive Order on Nondisplacement of > Qualified Workers under Certain Contracts Feb. 21 Executive > Order and Presidential Memorandum Concerning Labor-Management > Partnerships Feb. 12 Executive Order on the President's > Information Technology Advisory Committee Jan. 29 Agency > Responsibilities wi
Re: What is this kernel error?
On Sun, Mar 25, 2007 at 11:23:15PM -0400, Greg Folkert wrote: > On Sun, 2007-03-25 at 23:12 -0400, Kevin Mark wrote: > > On Sun, Mar 25, 2007 at 08:56:21PM -0400, Rick Pasotto wrote: > > > > > My machine (desktop) was last booted 7 days ago. I rebooted because of > > > the new kernel. That's why I pointed out the specific kernel. > > > > that is at least SOMETHING useful. If you have an issue after you > > changed the kernel, then the 1st logical step is to try to boot with the > > last kernel, assuming that it is possible and see if the issue still > > happens. > > It is *X* and his screensaver. It took three seconds of typing in a > Google search widget and reading a few things. *What* did you search for? *Where* did you search? When I searched for the error on Google all I got was a single result that related it to mplayer, which clearly was *not* relevant. > He was not able to even give us context *UNTIL* he said he left and > *MAYBE* the screensaver kicked in and of all things, in a rant back to > me. Maybe it was the phase of the moon! That comment about the screensaver was meant to be satirical. Again, the screensaver has come on *many*, *many* times since the last reboot. What is different about this time? Is it a particular screensaver module? (I have it set to random so I never know which one will fire up next.) If it is a particular module, has a bug report been filed? > I guess we can't trust people to even look for themselves anymore. Don't make unfounded assumptions. > Rick Pasotto has been round filed in my book. *You* started the nastiness with your snide comment in response to a simple question. "Well, you know more than we do. We don't even have the machine at our disposal." Maybe we should all post our boot.logs and syslogs and 'ps ax' (of course it kinda hard to do that for x minutes ago) and who knows what else for every little question we have. Would *that* be sufficient context? A little bit of *friendly* Q&A to zero in on the *relevant* context might be more productive. -- "If I devote myself to other pursuits and contemplations, I must first see, at least, that I do not pursue them sitting upon another man's shoulders. I must get off him first, that he may pursue his contemplations too." -- Henry David Thoreau Rick Pasotto[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.niof.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problem with mouse in X [WAS: Re: a dumb query? pls humor me]
On Mon, Mar 26, 2007 at 12:35:15AM -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > > Second, you could have at least changed the subject line. > (Replying to self here) I have now changed the subject line. -- Roberto C. Sánchez http://people.connexer.com/~roberto http://www.connexer.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: a dumb query? pls humor me
On Sun, Mar 25, 2007 at 09:32:22PM -0700, William Mok wrote: > > I installed X windows system under Debian 3.1.r2, I typed 'startx' but I > got the following error: > > xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/input/mice > No such device > > Generic Mouse: cannot open input device > PreInit failed for input device "Generic Mouse" > > Does anyone know how this problem can be fixed? Thanks. > First, please don't thread hijack. This thread has been going off topic for a long time and it is likely that many people will ignore it. Second, you could have at least changed the subject line. Third, you should probably be using Etch, as it will likely be released Any Day Now (TM). If you really need Sarge, then you can try loading the mouse driver for your kernel. Regards, -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sánchez http://people.connexer.com/~roberto http://www.connexer.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature
X window errpr
I installed X windows system under Debian 3.1.r2, I typed 'startx' but I got the following error: xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/input/mice No such device Generic Mouse: cannot open input device PreInit failed for input device "Generic Mouse" Does anyone know how this problem can be fixed? Thanks. William _ Your Space. Your Friends. Your Stories. Share your world with Windows Live Spaces. http://spaces.live.com/?mkt=en-ca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)
On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 19:14:16 -0700, Steve Lamb wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > Arnt Karlsen wrote: >> On Tue, 20 Mar 2007 06:53:50 -0700, Steve Lamb wrote in >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > >>> Paul Johnson wrote: Cloudless sky with negligable wind is an absence of weather. >>> Just as white is the absence of color? > > >> .."white is the absence of color?" > > Yup. People say that but in a projective context, like a monitor, > white > is all colors and black is the absence of color. My point which clearly > sailed over your head, is that the absence of rain/snow/wind/clouds is > not by the same as absence of weather. ..you break up joke context here. ;o) >> ..how come milk faces _change_ in color from they are born, sick, >> sunburned etc to they are dead, when Africans etc don't? ;o) > > Racist much? ..how? ..more like a response to Politically Correct Prejudice, I saw this point made in an African-American cartoon joke, I just replaced white with "milk face." ;o) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;o) ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: a dumb query? pls humor me
I installed X windows system under Debian 3.1.r2, I typed 'startx' but I got the following error: xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/input/mice No such device Generic Mouse: cannot open input device PreInit failed for input device "Generic Mouse" Does anyone know how this problem can be fixed? Thanks. William _ http://local.live.com/?mkt=en-ca/?v=2&cid=A6D6BDB4586E357F!420 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: "I do consider Ubuntu to be Debian" , Ian Murdock
On Sun, Mar 25, 2007 at 11:26:08PM -0400, Greg Folkert wrote: > On Sun, 2007-03-25 at 23:15 -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 26, 2007 at 03:27:21PM +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: > > > > > > > that is the root of why dist-upgrade breaks a lot of the time, and it > > > > isn't really a fault in Ubuntu, because they still provide their users > > > > with a lot of other things Debian doesn't. A huge forum (Our mailing > > > > list has nothing on their forum), commercial support (For Debian? Kind > > > > > > Disagree. Mailing lists are far superior. Try reading the forum offline! > > > > > Or via ssh in a terminal window. > > Or having even the console screwed up and having to use PuTTY from a > Windows machine. > Or when employing an RFC2549-compliant connection :-) http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2549.html Regards, -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sánchez http://people.connexer.com/~roberto http://www.connexer.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: a dumb query? pls humor me
On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 18:41:22 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 03/25/07 17:47, Arnt Karlsen wrote: [snip] >> ..you deny the "Let's roll!"-people aboard flight UA93 their lawful KIA >> status, when they "took up arms against the invading enemy." > > Who says the UA93 passengers were KIA? ..I do, under Art. 108 in the Norw. Military Penal Law (and its equivalent in the US War Crimes Act and eq. military penal code), which incorporates all full 4 Geneva Conventions and all their 3 Protocals Additional, incorporating Article 4A(6) of the 3'rd Convention: "(6) Inhabitants of a non-occupied territory, who on the approach of the enemy spontaneously take up arms to resist the invading forces, without having had time to form themselves into regular armed units, provided they carry arms openly and respect the laws and customs of war." http://www.icrc.org/ihl.nsf/WebART/375-590007?OpenDocument http://www.icrc.org/ihl.nsf/COM/375-590007?OpenDocument > For one thing, those passengers weren't in the military, and another, ..on take-off, correct. On "Let's Roll!", they _became_ a lawful military force. > their deaths were "other than the victim of a terrorist activity". ..yup, KIA, Arlington next. > http://www.dtic.mil/doctrine/jel/doddict/data/k/02986.html > killed in action > (DOD) A casualty category applicable to a hostile casualty, other > than the victim of a terrorist activity, who is killed outright or > who dies as a result of wounds or other injuries before reaching a > medical treatment facility. Also called KIA. See also casualty > category. ..neocon BS snip by Sissy Boys trying to escape the US War Crimes Act. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;o) ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: find encoding of filenames
Greg Folkert wrote: > On Sun, 2007-03-25 at 23:22 -0400, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote: >> Kevin Mark wrote: >> >> >> > maybe this would help: utf8-migration-tool >> >> Which package contains this command? >> >> $apt-file search migration-tool >> gdesklets: usr/lib/gdesklets/gdesklets-migration-tool >> gdesklets: usr/share/gdesklets/migration-tool > > How about this? > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ apt-cache search utf8 migration > utf8-migration-tool - Debian UTF-8 migration wizard > I tried this as well, but no results. I guess the reason is that I am running etch and currently utf8-migration-tool is not in Etch and exists only in unstable. raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Lirc at boot, Debian etch, kernel-2.6.20.3
On Saturday 24 March 2007 19:05, mike wrote: > Thanks in advance for any help. I have googled until I'm tired; cannot seem > to locate the correct answer. > > I have a Debian etch running kernel-2.6.20.3 on a new Intel core 2 duo > machine. I built the kernel for a core 2 duo, and it's turning up as an > AMD64, which I have other problems with, but that's another thread. > > Running MythTV with a Hauppauge PVR-150 and an Avermedia A-180, it's > working great. (Seems like hardly anyone uses Debian who also uses MythTV). > The problem I have is with Lirc for the remote control. The Debian packages > won't compile, so I got the CVS version and it compiles fine, with no > errors, and I can get it to work, until I reboot. > > I have put in /etc/modules/: lirc_dev and lirc_i2c. > After a reboot it's not working and I can get it back only by doing: > make clean && make && make install > then manually modprobing those 2 modules. > > This is a bit more hassle than I'd like. > Could you please tell me (in detail) how to make Lirc automatically work? > Is it possible? I'm thinking I need to edit something in /etc but I'm > scared to mess with the wrong thing. > I appreciate your consideration. > Mike Well, thanks anyway. Apparently this is not an issue with anyone else. Have a nice day, Mike -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: find encoding of filenames
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Mar 25, 2007 at 11:22:39PM -0400, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote: > Kevin Mark wrote: > > > > maybe this would help: utf8-migration-tool > > Which package contains this command? > > $apt-file search migration-tool > gdesklets: usr/lib/gdesklets/gdesklets-migration-tool > gdesklets: usr/share/gdesklets/migration-tool > > Package utf8-migration-tool * unstable (misc): Debian UTF-8 migration wizard 0.5.2: all its a tool for users having non-utf8 files name and it converts them to utf8. - -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal |mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/| | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keyserver: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | |join the new debian-community.org to help Debian! | -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGBz5dv8UcC1qRZVMRArO5AJ9OFzLuTvL64nfC5IumoFxur4T6eQCffq3y iIYKyK80FaKS2Ho1ADZn4rg= =NTAN -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How to work with a Wireless Projector
I met a Panasonic PT-LB50NTU 802.11b/g wireless projector, and could not connect with it. It has an driver which can only work with windows and need DirectX. Through Kismet, I found a laptop working with it through TCP connections to its 12000/12004 port. Any suggestion? -- Wang Xu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: find encoding of filenames
On Sun, 2007-03-25 at 23:22 -0400, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote: > Kevin Mark wrote: > > > > maybe this would help: utf8-migration-tool > > Which package contains this command? > > $apt-file search migration-tool > gdesklets: usr/lib/gdesklets/gdesklets-migration-tool > gdesklets: usr/share/gdesklets/migration-tool How about this? [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ apt-cache search utf8 migration utf8-migration-tool - Debian UTF-8 migration wizard -- greg, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Novell's Directory Services is a competitive product to Microsoft's Active Directory in much the same way that the Saturn V is a competitive product to those dinky little model rockets that kids light off down at the playfield. -- Thane Walkup -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What is this kernel error?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Mar 25, 2007 at 11:23:15PM -0400, Greg Folkert wrote: > > I guess we can't trust people to even look for themselves anymore. > > Rick Pasotto has been round filed in my book. What surprises me is that most new d-u users are repeatedly told about 'asking smart questions' as part of the introduction to our m-l culture and this person from my recollection is not a new m-l person. oh well. - -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal |mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/| | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keyserver: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | |join the new debian-community.org to help Debian! | -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGBz2wv8UcC1qRZVMRAkg/AJ9GQGWr86Wzm8EnCwnRkZ85u9OPVwCgg3Xn ihhCkm7D8jgvptN+VEX3tzg= =tKe8 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: "I do consider Ubuntu to be Debian" , Ian Murdock
On Sun, 2007-03-25 at 23:15 -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > On Mon, Mar 26, 2007 at 03:27:21PM +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: > > > > > that is the root of why dist-upgrade breaks a lot of the time, and it > > > isn't really a fault in Ubuntu, because they still provide their users > > > with a lot of other things Debian doesn't. A huge forum (Our mailing > > > list has nothing on their forum), commercial support (For Debian? Kind > > > > Disagree. Mailing lists are far superior. Try reading the forum offline! > > > Or via ssh in a terminal window. Or having even the console screwed up and having to use PuTTY from a Windows machine. -- greg, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Novell's Directory Services is a competitive product to Microsoft's Active Directory in much the same way that the Saturn V is a competitive product to those dinky little model rockets that kids light off down at the playfield. -- Thane Walkup
Re: What is this kernel error?
On Sun, 2007-03-25 at 23:12 -0400, Kevin Mark wrote: > On Sun, Mar 25, 2007 at 08:56:21PM -0400, Rick Pasotto wrote: > > > My machine (desktop) was last booted 7 days ago. I rebooted because of > > the new kernel. That's why I pointed out the specific kernel. > > that is at least SOMETHING useful. If you have an issue after you > changed the kernel, then the 1st logical step is to try to boot with the > last kernel, assuming that it is possible and see if the issue still > happens. It is *X* and his screensaver. It took three seconds of typing in a Google search widget and reading a few things. He was not able to even give us context *UNTIL* he said he left and *MAYBE* the screensaver kicked in and of all things, in a rant back to me. I guess we can't trust people to even look for themselves anymore. Rick Pasotto has been round filed in my book. -- greg, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Novell's Directory Services is a competitive product to Microsoft's Active Directory in much the same way that the Saturn V is a competitive product to those dinky little model rockets that kids light off down at the playfield. -- Thane Walkup -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: find encoding of filenames
Kevin Mark wrote: > maybe this would help: utf8-migration-tool Which package contains this command? $apt-file search migration-tool gdesklets: usr/lib/gdesklets/gdesklets-migration-tool gdesklets: usr/share/gdesklets/migration-tool raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What is this kernel error?
On Sun, 2007-03-25 at 22:50 -0400, Rick Pasotto wrote: > On Sun, Mar 25, 2007 at 09:24:57PM -0400, Greg Folkert wrote: > > On Sun, 2007-03-25 at 20:56 -0400, Rick Pasotto wrote: > > > On Sun, Mar 25, 2007 at 08:21:54PM -0400, Greg Folkert wrote: > > > > On Sun, 2007-03-25 at 18:19 -0400, Rick Pasotto wrote: > > > > > On Sun, Mar 25, 2007 at 05:27:32PM -0400, Kevin Mark wrote: > > > > > > On Sun, Mar 25, 2007 at 10:59:22AM -0400, Rick Pasotto wrote: > > > > > > > This showed up for the first time today: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mnr kernel: [drm:via_verify_command_stream] *ERROR* Invalid / > > > > > > > Unimplemented DMA HEADER command. 0x44357b40 Look asswipe, GIYF. I found your problem in about three seconds. Atleast you could have said you hadn't even *TRIED* to resolve it yourself. Three questions: Is this machine running X? Do you have a screensaver set to run on it? And what is your timeout? Okay, there your problem is fixed. And all you needed to do was to search. > If you can't be helpful then just STFU. Yeah, uh huh. -- greg, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Novell's Directory Services is a competitive product to Microsoft's Active Directory in much the same way that the Saturn V is a competitive product to those dinky little model rockets that kids light off down at the playfield. -- Thane Walkup -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: "I do consider Ubuntu to be Debian" , Ian Murdock
On Mon, Mar 26, 2007 at 03:27:21PM +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: > > > that is the root of why dist-upgrade breaks a lot of the time, and it > > isn't really a fault in Ubuntu, because they still provide their users > > with a lot of other things Debian doesn't. A huge forum (Our mailing > > list has nothing on their forum), commercial support (For Debian? Kind > > Disagree. Mailing lists are far superior. Try reading the forum offline! > Or via ssh in a terminal window. Regards, -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sánchez http://people.connexer.com/~roberto http://www.connexer.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: postfix log query
On Mon, Mar 26, 2007 at 03:25:18PM +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: > Hi, > > I rec the following by logcheck. Is it anthing I should worry about? > > Mar 24 01:48:55 kan postfix/cleanup[25281]: B61E8F7A3: > +message-id=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (added by > [EMAIL PROTECTED]) > Mar 24 01:48:57 kan postfix/cleanup[25281]: 2DB3FF7A3: > +message-id=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (added by > [EMAIL PROTECTED]) > Does the address [EMAIL PROTECTED] look familiar? As a first guess, I'd say it looks like you are running as an open relay. You might want to look into it and fix it. If you can provide longer snippets of your log file, it might be a little easier to tell exactly what is going on. Regards, -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sánchez http://people.connexer.com/~roberto http://www.connexer.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Removing KDE messed up the network
On Fri, Mar 23, 2007 at 09:43:49AM -0400, Frank McCormick wrote: >Aptitude was the only package manager used on this machine following > the advice of several users. Easily? Well I was lucky to have a > Ubuntu Dapper installation on another partition so I could retrieve the > needed packages and install them. But booting and rebooting countless > times over a 2 hour time period hardly defines "easily" :) Have you been mixing Ubuntu and Debian packages? -- Chris. == Don't forget to check that your /etc/apt/sources.lst entries point to etch and not testing, otherwise you may end up with a broken system once etch goes stable. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What is this kernel error?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Mar 25, 2007 at 08:56:21PM -0400, Rick Pasotto wrote: > My machine (desktop) was last booted 7 days ago. I rebooted because of > the new kernel. That's why I pointed out the specific kernel. that is at least SOMETHING useful. If you have an issue after you changed the kernel, then the 1st logical step is to try to boot with the last kernel, assuming that it is possible and see if the issue still happens. - -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal |mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/| | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keyserver: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | |join the new debian-community.org to help Debian! | -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGBzomv8UcC1qRZVMRAhH9AKCLUPoI2eulLHdjuxxmd9Ez8N6WQACcCrkB GHaNn5KqSRk+7P0A4pqu2l8= =zWtI -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: configuring apt.conf
On Thu, Mar 22, 2007 at 06:43:33PM +0100, abdelkader belahcene wrote: > Hi every body > > I want to customize the apt.conf, in order to save the cache of the > packages ( by default) the cache is deleted, but it is not working, > although I followed the doc > In fact I created a local repository with in sources.list > deb file:///home etch/ > > and I want to put there all the downloaded files, so I copy the files > from /var/cache/apt/archive unfortunatly, the downloaded file are not > stored there. > It was in previous release They *should* be stored in /var/cache/apt/archive. Try moving apt.conf out of the way, or renaming it so it isn't sourced/consulted when you run apt. Do they now appear in /var/cache/apt/archive, if so then you have a misconfigured apt.conf otherwise the problem is somewhere else. A, from man apt-get: When APT is used as a dselect(8) method, clean is run automatically. Those who do not use dselect will likely want to run apt-get clean from time to time to free up disk space. You are'nt running dselect are you? If none of this helps then I would reinstall "apt" and "apt-utils" -- Chris. == Don't forget to check that your /etc/apt/sources.lst entries point to etch and not testing, otherwise you may end up with a broken system once etch goes stable. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: "I do consider Ubuntu to be Debian" , Ian Murdock
On Thu, Mar 22, 2007 at 06:36:01AM -0400, Michael Pobega wrote: > The only problem with that is that people tend to get aggravated when > they testing and Sid freeze, because they feel that they're waiting > for months for new packages to come into their version. I don't mind > myself, but I understand where others are coming from. AIUI, Debian "lives" for stable. Testing is where testing takes place for the next stable. Sid/unstable is the developers playground, which may *intentionally* break sometimes. Despite that you get reasonably up to date software it is not meant to be run as such by the general populace. "People tend to get aggravated" when they don't understand the purpose of the stable/testing/unstable structure. -- Chris. == Don't forget to check that your /etc/apt/sources.lst entries point to etch and not testing, otherwise you may end up with a broken system once etch goes stable. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: more sound problems
> Firstly: Are you a part of the "audio" group? If not, that will make > everything cranky. You can fix this by adding yourself to the audio > group. It'll just say "The user is already a member of audio" > example: > princess:~# adduser greg audio > The user `greg' is already a member of `audio'. Thanks, that was the issue. In attempting to fix syncing with jpilot, and pilot-link, I briefly browsed the Users and Groups gui program (under the Desktop menu of Gnome) and I must have deselected myself from audio. Anyway, audio is now working, and syncing with jpilot is also working (I must have selected something right). I think I'll stick to using the command line for adding my user to groups -- the gui program is too touchy. Thanks again. Mark -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: "I do consider Ubuntu to be Debian" , Ian Murdock
On Thu, Mar 22, 2007 at 05:37:00PM -0700, Michael M. wrote: > All that is to say that Ubuntu serves a purpose, and it's a valuable > one, IMO. It's not for everybody; nor is Debian, nor any other distro > in particular. Ubuntu at least provides an experience quite similar to > Debian while doing things that Debian stubbornly refuses to do, like > sticking to a schedule. On that score, I agree 100% with Ian Murdoch -- > Debian is missing a big opportunity. What schedule. There was/is no promised schedule. "Dec 6th 2006" was never an actual release date. -- Chris. == Don't forget to check that your /etc/apt/sources.lst entries point to etch and not testing, otherwise you may end up with a broken system once etch goes stable. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: "I do consider Ubuntu to be Debian" , Ian Murdock
On Thu, Mar 22, 2007 at 04:55:51PM -0400, Michael Pobega wrote: > Keep in mind Ubuntu is using the same system as Debian, but not using > it the way it was meant to be used. Which is why Ubuntu debs don't > work on Debian and vice-versa (For the most part). I personally think Probably use different package names, i.e. its a dependency issue. Ubuntu *IS* using it the way it was meant to be used, why should you think otherwise? > that is the root of why dist-upgrade breaks a lot of the time, and it > isn't really a fault in Ubuntu, because they still provide their users > with a lot of other things Debian doesn't. A huge forum (Our mailing > list has nothing on their forum), commercial support (For Debian? Kind Disagree. Mailing lists are far superior. Try reading the forum offline! -- Chris. == Don't forget to check that your /etc/apt/sources.lst entries point to etch and not testing, otherwise you may end up with a broken system once etch goes stable. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Speeding up boot time
On Thu, Mar 22, 2007 at 07:06:33AM -0400, Michael Pobega wrote: > use either of them (Well I know I don't use MySQL, but is hplip > something that I could be using and not even knowing about?) apt-cache show hplip | less -- Chris. == Don't forget to check that your /etc/apt/sources.lst entries point to etch and not testing, otherwise you may end up with a broken system once etch goes stable. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
postfix log query
Hi, I rec the following by logcheck. Is it anthing I should worry about? Mar 24 01:48:55 kan postfix/cleanup[25281]: B61E8F7A3: +message-id=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (added by [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Mar 24 01:48:57 kan postfix/cleanup[25281]: 2DB3FF7A3: +message-id=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (added by [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Can anyone explain why it has been logged. I have rec similar message before. e.g. Mar 21 15:08:12 kan postfix/cleanup[31335]: 6879FFEDE: +message-id=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (added by [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Mar 21 15:08:13 kan postfix/cleanup[31335]: AE5A3FEDE: +message-id=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (added by [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Which was the last time I was online. -- Chris. == Don't forget to check that your /etc/apt/sources.lst entries point to etch and not testing, otherwise you may end up with a broken system once etch goes stable. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: find encoding of filenames
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Mar 25, 2007 at 08:47:36PM -0400, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote: > 1. Given a bunch of files, how can I find out the encoding of their > filenames? > 2. Which encoding is the best, more portable, should be preferred...? > > Why I need this? > I am trying to burn couple of files on Debian Etch using k3b (0.12.17). > These files were originally located on another machine running Fedora Core > 1 and I copied them onto the Debian machine. However when I am trying to > burn them using k3b, I am getting the following error > > Encountered an incorrectly encoded filename x.map > This may be caused by a system update which changed the local character set. > You may use convmv (http://j3e.de/linux/convmv/) to fix the filename > encoding. > Could not determine size of resulting image file. > > > However inorder to use convmv, I need to know the original encoding and > figure out the final encoding and then apply convmv. > > Any ideas/suggestions/comments? > > thanks > raju maybe this would help: utf8-migration-tool - -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal |mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/| | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keyserver: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | |join the new debian-community.org to help Debian! | -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGBzakv8UcC1qRZVMRAvkLAKCQRz7vG+TH52D/iar+tTR/aDD9TwCeLQh5 TFRDW4MzdiJ2Aj3KuIlLq7s= =aMWB -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What is this kernel error?
On Sun, Mar 25, 2007 at 09:24:57PM -0400, Greg Folkert wrote: > On Sun, 2007-03-25 at 20:56 -0400, Rick Pasotto wrote: > > On Sun, Mar 25, 2007 at 08:21:54PM -0400, Greg Folkert wrote: > > > On Sun, 2007-03-25 at 18:19 -0400, Rick Pasotto wrote: > > > > On Sun, Mar 25, 2007 at 05:27:32PM -0400, Kevin Mark wrote: > > > > > On Sun, Mar 25, 2007 at 10:59:22AM -0400, Rick Pasotto wrote: > > > > > > This showed up for the first time today: > > > > > > > > > > > > mnr kernel: [drm:via_verify_command_stream] *ERROR* Invalid / > > > > > > Unimplemented DMA HEADER command. 0x44357b40 > > > > > > > > > > > > 'uname -a' gives: > > > > > > > > > > > > Linux mnr.niof.net 2.6.18-4-k7 #1 SMP Wed Feb 21 16:48:19 UTC 2007 > > > > > > i686 GNU/Linux > > > > > > > > > > > A little more context > > > > > > > > What else do you need? What would be helpful? > > > > > > > > I'm uptodate on etch. > > > > > > > > This line has now shown up twice in my logcheck. > > > > > > Well, you know more than we do. We don't even have the machine at our > > > disposal. > > > > Really? > > I was being serious, I guess you have no need for a real answer. A stupid comment is *not* being serious. > > > What he was asking for, are there any correlations based on activities > > > performed on the machine at the same time? > > > > If I knew any such info I would have mentioned it. I get an email from > > logcheck once an hour. I couldn't begin to tell you exactly what I was > > doing 45 minutes (or whatever) ago. > > I guess you better start noting what you are doing. If you can't explain > it to us, how the heck can we help you? Look, after checking further I realized that I wasn't even *home* when the second message occurred. I had left about 15 minutes earlier. The machine was not really doing anything. There was nothing in the apache logs. Nothing in the exim4 logs. The nearest entry in syslog was at least 30 seconds before or after. The only program that was really active was a python script doing an nntp download but I've been running that program daily for *months*. Maybe the screensaver kicked in. Or the monitor went to sleep. But those things have been happening forever while the messages have occurred only twice and only today. [ lots of attempted abuse deleted ] > As far as I am concerned, you still haven't given enough context to > figure the problem(s) out. There *is* *no* consistent context. Nothing was happening that hadn't been happening countless times for months (or at least days) but the messages suddenly appeared only today. > So I guess, I'll have to work on those "smart > answers" for someone else that does provide enough diagnostic info to > help fix their issues. If you can't be helpful then just STFU. -- "Work is the source of nearly all the misery in the world." -- Bob Black Rick Pasotto[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.niof.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: sponge burning!
On Mon, Mar 26, 2007 at 02:20:52AM +, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > ..reposting, last try was lost in gmane's auth queue. > > On Mon, 19 Mar 2007 18:57:02 -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote in > [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > > > On Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 05:18:40PM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > >> On Mon, 19 Mar 2007 05:47:49 -0700, Paul wrote in message > >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> > >> > Roberto C. Sánchez wrote in Article > >> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted to > >> > gmane.linux.debian.user: > >> > > >> > > I don't suppose you have ever served in the U.S. military, have > >> > > you? > >> > >> ..no, I drew a firm line at war crime. If you want me serving for the > > > > Fascinating. So toppling a dictator who killed tens of thousands to > > hundreds of thousands of people is a war crime? > > ..no, that _would_ have been legal under Articles 87 and 86 in Protocol > Additional 1 of the Conventions. Instead we got W's _flawed_ WMD story. > Yeah, well that story originated long before W took office. Of course, *every* leading Democrat during the Clinton administration affirmed it, as did the Brits. I like how you conveniently ignore things when they are detrimental to your argument. > >> US, you will first have to either surrender, or, fight in full > >> compliance to both the full 4 Geneva Conventions and to Sharia > >> whereever > > > > I see, and blowing up innocent women and children is *not* a war crime! > > ..BS, you know it is. > Heh. I see you criticizing the coalition forces (specifically US) quite a bit, but not a peep about the terrorists/insrugents/freedom fighters (or whatever you want to call them) out there blowing up *innocent* women and children in public markets. Of course, the "evidence" against the coalition forces is shaky at best, while it is mounting against the death squads and militias. Yet, people maximize the former and minimize the latter. Oh yeah. That's balance for you! > >> Sharia provides a stricter protection for civilians, POW, internees, > >> shipwrecked and the wounded than the full 4 Geneva Convention. > >> > >> ..that means you will arrest, try and hang Sissy Boy George. And crew. > >> > > Actually, you arrest and try every congressional representative who > > voted to authorize the military action in Iraq. > > ..if they authorized war crimes, yes. I understood however Congress > Authorized War, not war Crime? > And I understood that you have yet to provide actual proof of war crimes. You ramble on about the GCs and NATO treaties, but you have yet to point out even one *specific* instance which when brought before a court has a reasonable chance as being found to be a war crime. The closest you can probably get is the rape/murders committed by some Marines. That was a despicable act, but hardly a war crime. > > Of course, your lack of > > knowledge concerning politics and government is not surprising. > > ..my understanding of US Gov details is not relevant to this war, your > understanding and application of the full 4 Geneva Conventions in this > war, _is_, if you're an US or NATO or Taliban serviceman. > More ramblings. No evidence. Regards, -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sánchez http://people.connexer.com/~roberto http://www.connexer.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: deleting content of /tmp
On Sat, 24 Mar 2007, Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto wrote: > What is the performance impact of mounting /tmp in tmpfs? Some thoughts: 1. It is a lot faster for a lot of stuff, as long as your kernel has proper swapping behaviour. This happens because tmpfs can avoid a great deal of costly operations that other filesystems with backing store need to perform (such as the need to keep metadata in sync on the backing store). 2. It will waste more virtual memory space than your regular filesystem with a backing store, as it needs to keep all data in virtual memory (even if it happens to be swapped). This *can* be a problem on 32-bit systems. -- "One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond where the shadows lie." -- The Silicon Valley Tarot Henrique Holschuh -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ..plonk.
..reposting, last try was lost in gmane's auth queue. On Tue, 20 Mar 2007 02:04:10 -0700, Paul Johnson wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > Arnt Karlsen wrote in Article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > posted to gmane.linux.debian.user: > >> On Wed, 7 Mar 2007 00:25:42 GMT, Barrister wrote message >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> >> ..plonk. > > Why even reply to spam? Or announce your killfile? Or killfile spam > when spamassassin exists? ..he said: "EXECUTE MY WILL", so I aimed and shot. What part of "execute" and "my" and "will" is it you don't understand, North Western softie? ;o) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;o) ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: sponge burning!
..reposting, last try was lost in gmane's auth queue. On Mon, 19 Mar 2007 18:57:02 -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > On Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 05:18:40PM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote: >> On Mon, 19 Mar 2007 05:47:49 -0700, Paul wrote in message >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> >> > Roberto C. Sánchez wrote in Article >> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted to >> > gmane.linux.debian.user: >> > >> > > I don't suppose you have ever served in the U.S. military, have >> > > you? >> >> ..no, I drew a firm line at war crime. If you want me serving for the > > Fascinating. So toppling a dictator who killed tens of thousands to > hundreds of thousands of people is a war crime? ..no, that _would_ have been legal under Articles 87 and 86 in Protocol Additional 1 of the Conventions. Instead we got W's _flawed_ WMD story. >> US, you will first have to either surrender, or, fight in full >> compliance to both the full 4 Geneva Conventions and to Sharia >> whereever > > I see, and blowing up innocent women and children is *not* a war crime! ..BS, you know it is. >> Sharia provides a stricter protection for civilians, POW, internees, >> shipwrecked and the wounded than the full 4 Geneva Convention. >> >> ..that means you will arrest, try and hang Sissy Boy George. And crew. >> > Actually, you arrest and try every congressional representative who > voted to authorize the military action in Iraq. ..if they authorized war crimes, yes. I understood however Congress Authorized War, not war Crime? > Of course, your lack of > knowledge concerning politics and government is not surprising. ..my understanding of US Gov details is not relevant to this war, your understanding and application of the full 4 Geneva Conventions in this war, _is_, if you're an US or NATO or Taliban serviceman. >> > > There is not one military person currently serving in Iraq who did >> > > not volunteer. Please get over yourself. >> > >> > I'm not sure how voluntary it truly is, given that in practice the >> > military is a last resort when the only other choice is homelessness >> > and starvation... >> >> ..ach, so keine "draft" bedeutet "volonteering"? Oder "Freiwillige"? >> Wie der Adolf's Söldner der die Juden in Auchwitz vergasst hatten? >> > *plonk* ..eh, what are we trying to argue here? ;o) > Regards, > > -Roberto > -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;o) ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: deleting content of /tmp
On Sun, 25 Mar 2007, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > want it for. It is the only failure-proof way to make sure temporary files > cannot be attacked from outside, and also that they will disappear if the Err, there are a lot of "provided that " stuff in the "cannot be attacked from the outside". I should make that clear. Some of them I can recall immediately are: 1. Before you unlink the file, it can be attacked. Too bad we don't have a "create an unlinked file" operation (do we?), it is often what you want to do so that you can have backing store other than swap space... 2. After you unlink the file, that pesky /proc filesystem will still have a link to it for all processes in the same namespace as the process that created the file, and the file can be attacked through that link. -- "One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond where the shadows lie." -- The Silicon Valley Tarot Henrique Holschuh -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: sponge burning!
..reposting, last try was lost in gmane's auth queue. On Mon, 19 Mar 2007 19:05:38 -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > On Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 06:09:48PM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote: >> >> ..maybe, define "just full of all sorts of conspiracy theories", I >> don't watch TV, I pick my news off the web, where I try to balance >> Muslim, Crusader, Commie, Jew, Asian, LatinAmerican and Norwegian news >> against what I learned in boot school. >> > Oh yeah, labeling non-muslims as crusaders is really balanced. ..maybe you should try my way yourself, or am I missing some dense irony here? ;o) >> > Again, your naivete is scary. The Muslims will not be happy until >> > the Jews and Christians are gone. Don't you get it? We can't just >> > "go home" and think that they will never bother us again. To think >> > so is beyond naive. >> >> ..so, "we'll just wipe'm out, right?" "Genau wie im Auschwitz?" >> > Yeah. Because you know that the US military is over in Iraq and > Afghanistan rounding up innocent women and children and killing them by > the truckload in the name of stopping terrorism. Oh wait, that's not at > all what is happening. They are over there looking for the actual > terrorists and their supporters. They are capturing the terrorists and > affording them Geneva conventions protections (of which you are so fond > of claiming that should be done) whem *they are not even entitled* to > such protection. ..here, you qualify yourself as a war criminal if you wanna pretend this is legal. ..read Article 5 of the NATO treaty, then the 4 Geneva Conventions and their 3 Protocols Additional and then the US War Crimes Act as it were on 9/11 2001, to understand the lawful legal regime for this war. ..then enforce them all, or become a war criminal, or "Step aside!" as Osama said. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;o) ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)
Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Tue, 20 Mar 2007 06:53:50 -0700, Steve Lamb wrote in > [EMAIL PROTECTED]: >> Paul Johnson wrote: >>> Cloudless sky with negligable wind is an absence of weather. >> Just as white is the absence of color? > .."white is the absence of color?" Yup. People say that but in a projective context, like a monitor, white is all colors and black is the absence of color. My point which clearly sailed over your head, is that the absence of rain/snow/wind/clouds is not by the same as absence of weather. > ..how come milk faces _change_ in color from they are born, sick, > sunburned etc to they are dead, when Africans etc don't? ;o) Racist much? -- Steve C. Lamb | But who decides what they dream? PGP Key: 8B6E99C5 | And dream I do... ---+- signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Reconnect to a specific TTY session?
Jim Hyslop wrote: > When I ssh into my Debian box from my laptop, sometimes I step away from > the laptop, and when I come back it's gone into standby. This, of > course, drops the TCP/IP connection to the Debian box. Is there any way > to re-establish the connection to the session I was running? If I try > ssh aga Is there any firewall between the server and the client? If so, the firewall might be switching off the idle ssh connections. If this infact is your problem, to keep the ssh connections alive use ServerAliveInterval option in your ~/.ssh/config . More info can be found at the man page of ssh_config. hth raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: sponge burning!
..reposting, last try was lost in gmane's auth queue. On Mon, 19 Mar 2007 18:59:08 -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > On Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 05:48:35PM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote: >> >> ..Adolf Hitler has moral standing on his Führerbefehl because he put >> 400,000 men on the job, to protect Norway's 3.5 Million, that's one per >> 8.5 norwegian. >> > Adolf Hitler has moral standing? How can someone get so divorced from > reality? Seriously, how? ..by issuing, and forcefully enforcing his order "to protect Civilians in Norway from the dangers of war." Even the Jews. .."und Sie, W?" -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;o) ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: Politics and other non-Debian ramblings
On Mon, 19 Mar 2007 20:32:47 -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > On Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 09:04:46PM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote: >> On Mon, 5 Mar 2007 17:56:49 -0500, Curt wrote in message >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> >> > Celejar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> replied: >> >> > > and then Germany declared war on us. >> > >> > Yep. The only treaty that Hitler didn't break. One is left scratching >> > one's head wondering "why?" >> >> ..another "why?", is why it still looks wiser than W's Iraq war. >> > What you call "W's Iraq war" had the full support (pretty close to > unanimous) of both houses of the US congress. ..and that makes it smarter how? ..Mahatma Gandhi missed one important bit on responding "That would be a very good idea." to "How do you feel about Western Civilization?". "American Intelligence." -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;o) ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: deleting content of /tmp
On Sat, 24 Mar 2007, Ron Johnson wrote: > > On the contrary. It makes it so that the only way that someone can get > > to the file is by having cracked the kernel itself. That is, without > > the file descriptor, no other process can get to the data. For example, > > qemu does this. Lots of other programs do this as well for security. > > They open the file, immediately unlink it and then the only access is > > via the file descriptor. > > That reminds me of the Vietnam War philosophy "we had to destroy the > village in order to save the village". It was bad "design" 40 years > ago, it's a bad design now. No. You destroy the village in order for it not be able to bother you anymore, because you care a lot more about your objectives than the people in the village. And it is *excellent* design to unlink an open file depending on what you want it for. It is the only failure-proof way to make sure temporary files cannot be attacked from outside, and also that they will disappear if the program crashes, exits, or has other problems. You can easily change that to a "unlink on sucessfull exit" thing when running in debug mode, too. -- "One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond where the shadows lie." -- The Silicon Valley Tarot Henrique Holschuh -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: d-u backlog (was Re: ..help my doorbell...)
..reposting, last try was lost in gmane's auth queue.
On Fri, 16 Mar 2007 01:09:01 +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote in
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> On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 07:53:34 -0600, Ron wrote in message
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>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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>> On 02/13/07 04:53, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
>> > On Mon, 12 Feb 2007 22:31:42 -0600, Ron wrote in message
>> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> >
>> >> On 02/12/07 21:38, Arnt Karlsen wrote: [snip]
>> >>> ..pls cc me too, my d-u backlog is 4177 new messages plus the
>> >44224 >> unread ones,
>> >> That's what aggressive use of "Mark as Read" is for.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> not too bad for a 143009 total, I try get a life.
>> >;o) > I hope not all in the same folder!!!
>> >
>> > ..that's what aggressive use of "Mail Box Search" is for. ;o)
>>
>> But that makes for a huge {mbox file|Maildir}. Opening it must take
>> forever. If it's all in an mbox file and gets corrupt, you've lost a
>> big chunk of it.
>
> ..I'm a Maildir guy. ;o)
>
..err, make that MH folder guy. ;o)
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Re: Reconnect to a specific TTY session?
On Sun, 25 Mar 2007, Jim Hyslop wrote: > Yes, that's what I did. I started an ssh session, ran 'screen', and > launched a program (man screen, IIRC). I got two or three screens > running, and was able to switch between them. > > Then I put my laptop into standby, and brought it out, which forced the > connection to be dropped. When I started the second ssh session, I got > the above error message. Not even screen -rda worked? -- "One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond where the shadows lie." -- The Silicon Valley Tarot Henrique Holschuh -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: a dumb query? pls humor me
On Mon, Mar 26, 2007 at 01:10:14AM +, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Wed, 21 Mar 2007 21:10:22 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote in > [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > > > But... they weren't in uniform. (Did the IEA even *have* an Army?) > > ..define "uniform" under the Conventions. ;o) > Prisoners of war, in the sense of the present Convention, are persons belonging to one of the following categories, who have fallen into the power of the enemy: 1. Members of the armed forces of a Party to the conflict, as well as members of militias or volunteer corps forming part of such armed forces. 2. Members of other militias and members of other volunteer corps, including those of organized resistance movements, belonging to a Party to the conflict and operating in or outside their own territory, even if this territory is occupied, provided that such militias or volunteer corps, including such organized resistance movements, fulfil the following conditions: * that of being commanded by a person responsible for his subordinates; * that of having a fixed distinctive sign recognizable at a distance; * that of carrying arms openly; * that of conducting their operations in accordance with the laws and customs of war. It appears that the minimum criterion for a uniform is a "fixed distinctive sign recognizable at a distance." Either way, they probably don't meet the other three criteria. Regards, -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sánchez http://people.connexer.com/~roberto http://www.connexer.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: OT: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)
On Tue, 20 Mar 2007 06:53:50 -0700, Steve Lamb wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > Paul Johnson wrote: >> Cloudless sky with negligable wind is an absence of weather. > > Just as white is the absence of color? .."white is the absence of color?" ..how come milk faces _change_ in color from they are born, sick, sunburned etc to they are dead, when Africans etc don't? ;o) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;o) ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: a dumb query? pls humor me
On Mon, Mar 26, 2007 at 01:01:29AM +, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > >> > > >> > [0] http://www.opiniojuris.org/posts/1169078731.shtml > >> > >> ..neocon propaganda show, ignores the fact that the Taliban was the > >> Afghan government on 9/11 2001 when W declared war and invoked NATO > >> treaty Article 5 and by implication the full 4 Geneva Conventions under > >> their Articles 2 and 3 in all 4 Conventions since some of the other > >> NATO Member States (Norway, the UK etc) had fully signed, ratified or > >> acceeded into them. > >> > > Sorry, but you argument is null: [0] > > ..non-neocon source? (As in credible pre-9/11 2001 dead tree etc issue, > even Wikipedia pages get 0\/\/|\|3|} by neocons.) > http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c105:H.+Con.+Res.+336: http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c107:H.CON.RES.26.IH: There, you can get the dead tree versions yourself if you like. The first was under the watch of Clinton and the second pre-9/11 Bush adminstration, introduced by a Democrat. > >On September 27, 1996, the ruling members of the Afghan Government > >were displaced by members of the Islamic Taliban movement. The > >Taliban declared themselves the legitimate government of Afghanistan; > >however, the UN continued to recognize the government of Burhanuddin > >Rabbani. > > > >The Organization of the Islamic Conference left the Afghan seat > >vacant until the question of legitimacy could be resolved through > >negotiations among the warring factions. > > > >By the time of the U.S.-led invasion of Afghanistan after the > >September 11 terrorist attacks only Pakistan recognized the Taliban > >government, though Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates had in > >the past. > > ..which non-regonised military power was recognized as Government by W's > ultimatium on "Hand Over Osama Or Else!!!"? > The same one that Clinton dealt with. The Taliban. What difference does it make? They had him or knew where he was. Recognized or not, they were in control of mufch of the territory of Afghanistan. > >The Taliban occupied 95% of the territory, called the Islamic Emirate > >of Afghanistan. The remaining 5% belonged to the rebel forces > >constituting the Islamic Republic of Afghanistan, which the United > >Nations had recognized as the official government in exile. > > > > So, the Taliban was only the legitimate government in the sense that > > they declared themselves to be so. Nobody, outside of Pakistan and at > > at some point SA and UAE, recognized them as the legitimate government. > > So tell me again, how are insurgents lawful combatants? > > > ..tell me how this theory differ on Adolf Hitler's theory on Norwegian > "insurgents" in Milorg. ;o) > Um, were the Norweigan "insurgents" agents of a recognized government? If so, then there is your answer. This theory has nothing to do with Hitler's. Regards, -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sánchez http://people.connexer.com/~roberto http://www.connexer.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: a dumb query? pls humor me
On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 15:40:59 -0400, Celejar wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 10:59:35 -0400 (EDT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> On 21 Mar, Celejar wrote: >> > On Mon, 19 Mar 2007 15:58:56 -0400 (EDT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> > >> >> ... >> >> >> Acutually, it is the 3rd Geneva convention that only applies to >> >> lawful combatants. The 4th convention, which the US is also a >> >> signatory of, applies to unlawful combatants, and non-combatants. >> >> And it provides >> > >> > It is not at all obvious that the fourth convention applies to >> > 'unlawful combatants'. The (current US) administration has claimed >> > that it does not. Can you prove that it does [0]? >> > >> > >> The current US administration is about the only organization >> making this claim. For example, the ICRC makes a strong argument that >> it does, http://www.icrc.org/Web/Eng/siteeng0.nsf/html/5LPHBV, as did >> the International Tribunal for the Former Yugoslavia. I'll concede >> that it has not yet been tested in a US court. The Supreme court has >> held, however, that Common Article 3 of the Geneva conventions, which >> gives some of the same protections, does apply to "unlawful >> combatants". > > Interesting. I'm not sufficiently well versed in the matter to comment > further. ..if you risk getting your own butt into this shit war, read up on the Conventions to do things right to at least cover your own butt. >> >> protections against, among other things, being tortured and being >> >> held indefinitely without trial. >> > >> >> And 3rd convention protections are to be given to all captives >> >> until their combatant status is determined by a "competent >> >> tribunal", which, IIRC, is interpreted in international law to be a >> >> body of the judicial branch, not the executive. >> > >> > International law to which the US is a signatory? I violently reject >> > the notion that we're bound by international law to which we aren't. >> > ... >> >> I was referring to the interpretation of the this part of the >> third >> convention, itself, which is of course binding on the US: >> >> "Should any doubt arise as to whether persons, having committed a >> belligerent act and having fallen into the hands of the enemy," belong >> to any of the categories for POWs, "such persons shall enjoy the >> protection of the present Convention until such time as their status >> has been determined by a competent tribunal." > > I understand, but the question is whether the 'international law > interpretation' of 'competent tribunal' as 'a body of the judicial > branch' is something to which the US is bound. ..it _became_ so on W invoking Article 5 in the NATO treaty on 9/11, due to the language in Article 2 and 3 in all 4 Conventions, and fully so to the full 4 Geneva Conventions and their 2 (now 3) Protocols Additional. > Incidentally, my 'violently' was a poor choice of words; I meant > 'vehemently'. ..so noted. ;o) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;o) ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
dvdbackup: undefined symbol: UDFFindFile
Hi, I am getting this error when I try to backup my video dvd or just get info of my video dvd, see below: linux: dvdbackup -Mi /dev/dvd -I dvdbackup: relocation error: dvdbackup: undefined symbol: UDFFindFile The dependences of dvdbackup are: linux : ldd /usr/bin/dvdbackup libdvdread.so.3 => /usr/lib/libdvdread.so.3 (0xb7fb5000) libc.so.6 => /lib/tls/libc.so.6 (0xb7e7f000) libdl.so.2 => /lib/tls/libdl.so.2 (0xb7e7c000) /lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0xb7fe8000) My packages version are: linux : dpkg -s libdvdread3|fgrep Version Version: 0.9.7-0.0sarge1 linux : dpkg -s dvdbackup|fgrep Version Version: 0.1.1-3 Does anyone know how to fix this? Thank you, Gustavo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What is this kernel error?
On Sun, 2007-03-25 at 20:56 -0400, Rick Pasotto wrote: > On Sun, Mar 25, 2007 at 08:21:54PM -0400, Greg Folkert wrote: > > On Sun, 2007-03-25 at 18:19 -0400, Rick Pasotto wrote: > > > On Sun, Mar 25, 2007 at 05:27:32PM -0400, Kevin Mark wrote: > > > > On Sun, Mar 25, 2007 at 10:59:22AM -0400, Rick Pasotto wrote: > > > > > This showed up for the first time today: > > > > > > > > > > mnr kernel: [drm:via_verify_command_stream] *ERROR* Invalid / > > > > > Unimplemented DMA HEADER command. 0x44357b40 > > > > > > > > > > 'uname -a' gives: > > > > > > > > > > Linux mnr.niof.net 2.6.18-4-k7 #1 SMP Wed Feb 21 16:48:19 UTC 2007 > > > > > i686 GNU/Linux > > > > > > > > > A little more context > > > > > > What else do you need? What would be helpful? > > > > > > I'm uptodate on etch. > > > > > > This line has now shown up twice in my logcheck. > > > > Well, you know more than we do. We don't even have the machine at our > > disposal. > > Really? I was being serious, I guess you have no need for a real answer. > > What he was asking for, are there any correlations based on activities > > performed on the machine at the same time? > > If I knew any such info I would have mentioned it. I get an email from > logcheck once an hour. I couldn't begin to tell you exactly what I was > doing 45 minutes (or whatever) ago. I guess you better start noting what you are doing. If you can't explain it to us, how the heck can we help you? > > Is this during boot or shutdown? Is it during a suspend sequence? or a > > Wake sequence? > > My machine (desktop) was last booted 7 days ago. I rebooted because of > the new kernel. That's why I pointed out the specific kernel. There have been numerous updates that *MAY* have caused something like that. > > What about writing a CD/DVD? > > I doubt it. I've created 4 or 5 archive DVDs since the reboot but > received only two of the messages. Ok, check that off the list. > > Is this a SCSI, IDE (PATA) or SATA machine? > > The main drive is SATA, the DVD writer and an auxiliary drive are IDE. Of course using libsata right? > > Do you have more than one Monitor? > > I have only one pair of eyes. In any event the monitor situation has not > changed in a long time and I only recently started getting the message. I asked, as there are "drm" things in Windows (yes I know, this is not Windows) that can only be done on the "primary" display. > > Are you watching a DVD or some kind streaming video? > > No. I hardly ever watch a DVD (I assume you mean prerecorded). Yes, exactly. > I do view avi files that I've written to DVD. Same situation as the pre-recorded DVDs > > Is this due to a SUB storage device? > > What is SUB? Excuse me, a typo: USB storage device > > I could go on, but I hope you get the meaning as to "a little more > > context..." > > I gave all the info that *I* thought might be relevant. Since I have no > clue as to what *might* be causing the problem (other than the change in > kernel) I'm looking for guidance. You have the machine, if you don't have enough ability to tell us more, all I can say to you is: Until you can describe the problem more clearly and to a point where one of us understand the problem more clearly, you will have to improve your smart question ability rather quickly. > > I've gone on and on and on about smart questions. Do you really want > > me to post and ESR on your butt? > > You might be better off concentrating on intelligent answers. Sorry, Rick, but until you can explain the problem in more clear terms, with context as to how or what is going on with your machine *WHEN* the problem occurs I guess you will have to tough it out. That is unless you want to *PAY* one of us to fly or drive to your location and sit and look and watch and wait for the issue to raise its head. Then I'll gladly answer you question without context... as you will be paying my $HOURLY_RATE to figure it out. BTW, when more than one person agrees the "context" is sorely lacking, I'd have to say that more than likely they are right. As far as I am concerned, you still haven't given enough context to figure the problem(s) out. So I guess, I'll have to work on those "smart answers" for someone else that does provide enough diagnostic info to help fix their issues. -- greg, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Novell's Directory Services is a competitive product to Microsoft's Active Directory in much the same way that the Saturn V is a competitive product to those dinky little model rockets that kids light off down at the playfield. -- Thane Walkup -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: nVidia MCP55 (was: Slow internet on AMD64 running Etch)
On Mar 25, 2:40 pm, Florian Kulzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Mar 25, 2007 at 22:17:35 +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote: > > On Sun, Mar 25, 2007 at 07:24:25 -0700, Dave Stephenson wrote: > > > [...] > > > > The network interface is integrated into the Asus M2N-e motherboard > > > > from lspci: > > > 00:08.0 Bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP55 Ethernet (rev a2) > > > > from ifconfig > > > eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:18:F3:86:8C:92 > > > inet addr:192.168.0.7 Bcast:192.168.0.255 Mask: 255.255.255.0 > > > UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:576 Metric:1 > > ^^^ > > I had missed this when I sent my last message: Your MTU (Maximum > Transfer Unit) is a bit small. Try to run as root > > ifconfig eth0 mtu 1500 > > and check if this improves your external connection speed. You can > usehttp://www.testmy.net/to measure your download and upload rates. mtu 1500 at least doubled my speed. Looks like that was most if not all of my problem. I will fiddle with the value in the morning when the net is quiter. Thanks for your help. Dave -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: a dumb query? pls humor me
On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 16:30:26 -0400, Celejar wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > On Wed, 21 Mar 2007 23:08:42 + (UTC) Arnt Karlsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >> On Wed, 21 Mar 2007 16:13:41 -0400, Celejar wrote in >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > [snip] > >> > [0] http://www.opiniojuris.org/posts/1169078731.shtml >> >> ..neocon propaganda show, ignores the fact that the Taliban was the >> Afghan government on 9/11 2001 when W declared war and invoked NATO >> treaty Article 5 and by implication the full 4 Geneva Conventions under >> their Articles 2 and 3 in all 4 Conventions since some of the other >> NATO Member States (Norway, the UK etc) had fully signed, ratified or >> acceeded into them. > > What are you talking about? Prof. Ramsey writes: > >> Let’s assume there is a category of people who take active part in >> combat but are not covered by the Third Geneva Convention (because they >> fail the test of its Article 4) or by Common Article 3 (because the >> conflict is “of an international character”). It seems fairly >> inescapable that there is such a category (whether or not Taliban or >> al-Qaeda fighters are in it). > > He's specifically avoiding the question of whether the Taliban / > al-Qaeda are covered by Geneva. How is this "neocon propaganda"? ..he _avoids_ the question instead of doing his job under Article 144 in the 4'th Convention. Referring to that question as "the Administration's theory" would have been acceptable, as Coup d'Etat in the US is no war crime, even if it is a crime in the US. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;o) ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ext3 fs /var corrupt :(
Pim Bliek wrote: Hi I need some help. I think I screwed my /var while trying to resize it online.. :( Nice these new features in ext3... NOT :( Is there anyone out here that is willing to help on this one? A filesystem/ext3 guru? Preferable someone in the Netherlands as well, but any help is appreciated. I cannot give much details here, since I do not understand my current situation here either. Thing is, all seemed fine untill I ran fsck on it... which removed all data from the partition :(. It is empty... although df -h still gives me that 6 GB is used. I cannot umount it either anymore. Totally weird situation... HELP I work with Debian for years now.. but never had this crap! Pim I don't use ext3 (following my own bad experience with it) but I will start with two basic questions: did you check /lost+found? Here is a more complicated question: did you validate the partition table chain manually with a disk editor, or at least do a quick check using fdisk? Here is my general approach to problems like this: I would not attempt another fsck on the drive. You cannot rule out a hardware failure, and writes may cause more damage. Power it down and check the cabling. Power up without mounting and check it with smartctl, then try to mount it read-only. If you still can't see the data, try another superblock. Then check it in another machine. At every step, back up whatever data you find. Then try Debian's various disk drive forensic tools to extract more data. After rescuing any salvageable data, attempt to mirror the partition to a identical partition on a known good drive using dd or cp. Then experiment on repairing the copy using the forensic tools. (See the ext3 documentation and respective man pages for details.) Finally, if all else fails, replace the controller board from an identical drive, with the same firmware rev. (Check Ebay for older drives.) The last few steps, however, should not be necessary since everyone carefully back up all their important data. Right? (oops!) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: a dumb query? pls humor me
On Wed, 21 Mar 2007 21:10:22 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 03/21/07 20:21, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: [snip] >> >>The Taliban occupied 95% of the territory, called the Islamic >>Emirate of Afghanistan. The remaining 5% belonged to the rebel >>forces constituting the Islamic Republic of Afghanistan, which the >>United Nations had recognized as the official government in exile. >> >> So, the Taliban was only the legitimate government in the sense that >> they declared themselves to be so. Nobody, outside of Pakistan and at >> at some point SA and UAE, recognized them as the legitimate government. >> So tell me again, how are insurgents lawful combatants? > > 95% seems pretty much de-facto control of the country to me! ..Norway had 0% of Continental Norway from June 7'th 1940 thru 1944, when the Soviet Union pushed the Nazis back across the Norwegian border, even then the Germans made a major effort to round up Norwegians for evacuation away from the war zone up North in Norway, before torching it off and retreating. > But... they weren't in uniform. (Did the IEA even *have* an Army?) ..define "uniform" under the Conventions. ;o) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;o) ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
dvdbackup: undefined symbol: UDFFindFile
Hi, I am getting this error when I try to backup my video dvd or just get info of my video dvd, see below: linux: dvdbackup -Mi /dev/dvd -I dvdbackup: relocation error: dvdbackup: undefined symbol: UDFFindFile The dependences of dvdbackup are: linux : ldd /usr/bin/dvdbackup libdvdread.so.3 => /usr/lib/libdvdread.so.3 (0xb7fb5000) libc.so.6 => /lib/tls/libc.so.6 (0xb7e7f000) libdl.so.2 => /lib/tls/libdl.so.2 (0xb7e7c000) /lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0xb7fe8000) My packages version are: linux : dpkg -s libdvdread3|fgrep Version Version: 0.9.7-0.0sarge1 linux : dpkg -s dvdbackup|fgrep Version Version: 0.1.1-3 Does anyone know how to fix this? Thanks Gustavo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: a dumb query? pls humor me
..reposting, last try was lost in gmane's auth queue. On Wed, 21 Mar 2007 21:21:58 -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > On Wed, Mar 21, 2007 at 11:08:42PM +, Arnt Karlsen wrote: >> On Wed, 21 Mar 2007 16:13:41 -0400, Celejar wrote in >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]: >> >> > It is not at all obvious that the fourth convention applies to >> > 'unlawful combatants'. The (current US) administration has claimed >> > that it does not. Can you prove that it does [0]? >> >> ..diversional slant, # 4 protects Civilians and by implication most >> non- combattants. >> > You are missing what he said. Civilians and non-combatants are not the > same as unlawful combatants. ..correct this far. > Unlawful combatants are basically just ..the mercenaries, even spies and war criminals have a right to a trial. > civilians or non-combatants who have given up their protected status by > engaging combat operations. ..."by taking up arms against the invading enemy" like aboard flight UA93, is perfectly legal. > Of course, combat operations are distinct from self-defense, ..BS, you are at any time and in any circumstance required to fully comply to the full 4 Conventions. > including protecting other protected persons or places, ...or object of value to mankind, churches, mosques, corn fields, even tortured POW's on Gitmo are entitled to this protection. > IIRC. ..not good enough, I as a civilian, am entitled to be wrong and proven wrong and to learn about this, _if_ you _are_ a GI or an officer, your _obligation_ is To Know[TM], the idea is deny war criminals like Adolf and W. "Ignorance" as a Court Martial or Art 90 Hearing Defense. >> > International law to which the US is a signatory? I violently reject >> > the notion that we're bound by international law to which we aren't. >> >> ..in that case you become a war criminal. As a civilian and non- >> combattant, you are entitled to vehemently voice your _opinion_ even if >> it promotes war crime, because you as a civilian are entitled to your >> ignorance and religious etc belief in these matters. >> >> ..now, as soon as you go _beyond_ _voicing_ your opinion, you must >> comply with the full 4 Conventions. >> > Only if you act as an agent of your government. You can go and do > whatever you want on your own. ..wrong and wrong. And wrong too if you are trying to seize power in a coup d'etat or civil war. > You just won't be entitled to the protections of the GCs. ..this applies only to Mercenaries. > >> > Celejar >> > >> > [0] http://www.opiniojuris.org/posts/1169078731.shtml >> >> ..neocon propaganda show, ignores the fact that the Taliban was the >> Afghan government on 9/11 2001 when W declared war and invoked NATO >> treaty Article 5 and by implication the full 4 Geneva Conventions under >> their Articles 2 and 3 in all 4 Conventions since some of the other >> NATO Member States (Norway, the UK etc) had fully signed, ratified or >> acceeded into them. >> > Sorry, but you argument is null: [0] ..non-neocon source? (As in credible pre-9/11 2001 dead tree etc issue, even Wikipedia pages get 0\/\/|\|3|} by neocons.) >On September 27, 1996, the ruling members of the Afghan Government >were displaced by members of the Islamic Taliban movement. The >Taliban declared themselves the legitimate government of Afghanistan; >however, the UN continued to recognize the government of Burhanuddin >Rabbani. > >The Organization of the Islamic Conference left the Afghan seat >vacant until the question of legitimacy could be resolved through >negotiations among the warring factions. > >By the time of the U.S.-led invasion of Afghanistan after the >September 11 terrorist attacks only Pakistan recognized the Taliban >government, though Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates had in >the past. ..which non-regonised military power was recognized as Government by W's ultimatium on "Hand Over Osama Or Else!!!"? >The Taliban occupied 95% of the territory, called the Islamic Emirate >of Afghanistan. The remaining 5% belonged to the rebel forces >constituting the Islamic Republic of Afghanistan, which the United >Nations had recognized as the official government in exile. > > So, the Taliban was only the legitimate government in the sense that > they declared themselves to be so. Nobody, outside of Pakistan and at > at some point SA and UAE, recognized them as the legitimate government. > So tell me again, how are insurgents lawful combatants? ..tell me how this theory differ on Adolf Hitler's theory on Norwegian "insurgents" in Milorg. ;o) > Regards, > > -Roberto > > [0] > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Politics_of_Afghanistan#The_Former_Taliban_Regime > -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;o) ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case.
Re: a dumb query? pls humor me
On Sun, Mar 25, 2007 at 10:47:41PM +, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > ..reposting, last try was lost in gmane's auth queue. > > > On Mon, 19 Mar 2007 20:31:03 -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote in > [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > > > Reference? Where has President Bush stated that war criminals should > > not be prosecuted? > > > ..here I should have said "US war criminals", Sissy Boy George decided > back in October 2001 he wanted to be able to commit war crimes legally. > Google for "executive orders 2001". > Well, let's see. Here is a list of every executive order published in 2001 [0]: Dec. 29 Executive Order on Succession in the Department of Veterans Affairs Dec. 29 Executive Order on Succession at the Department of State Dec. 29 Executive Order on Succession at the Department of Labor Dec. 29 Executive Order on Succession at the Department of Housing and Urban Development Dec. 29 Executive Order on Succession at the Department of Health and Human Services Dec. 29 Executive Order on Succession at the Department of Interior Dec. 29 Executive Order on Succession at the Department of Commerce Dec. 29 Executive Order on Succession at Department of Agriculture Dec. 29 Executive Order: Adjustments of Certain Rates of Pay Dec. 29 Executive Order on Succession in Department of Treasury Dec. 28 Executive Orders on Succession in Federal Agencies Dec. 27 Normal Trade Relations Treatment Executive Order Dec. 21 Council of Europe in Respect of the Group of States Against Corruption Dec. 20 Executive Order Establishing An Emergency Board Dec. 14 Afghanistan Combat Zone Executive Order Dec. 6 Executive Order for Federal Government Closure on Dec 24 Nov. 28 Executive Order: Creation of the President's Council on Bioethics Nov. 27 Executive Order Waiver of Dual Compensation Provisions of the Central Intelligence Agency Retirement Act of 1964 Nov. 16 National Emergency Construction Authority Executive Order Nov. 13 President Issues Military Order Nov. 9 Citizen Preparedness in War on Terrorism Executive Order Nov. 1 Presidential Records Act Executive Order Oct. 22 Executive Order for Dept of Health and Human Services Oct. 16 Executive Order on Critical Infrastructure Protection Oct. 12 Educational Excellence for Hispanic Americans Commission Oct. 8 Executive Order Establishing Office of Homeland Security Oct. 3 Executive Order on Excellence in Special Education Oct. 1 Continuance of Federal Advisory Committees Oct. 1 President Signs PCAST Executive Order Sept. 24Executive Order on Terrorist Financing Sept. 14President Orders Ready Reserves of Armed Forces to Active Duty Aug. 17 Executive Order on Export Control Regulations Jul. 31 Energy Efficient Standby Power Devices Jul. 2 Executive Order Jun. 20 President Bush Issues Executive Order Regarding 21st Century Workforce Initiative Jun. 19 President Bush Issues Executive Order Regarding Community-Based Alternatives for Individuals with Disabilities Jun. 6 Executive Order: Amendment To Executive Order 13125 Jun. 1 Executive Order May 29 President's Task Force to Improve Health Care Delivery for Our Nation's Veterans May 23 Executive Order: Additional Measures with Respect to Prohibiting the Importation of Rough Diamonds from Sierra Leone May 18 Executive Order: Actions Concerning Regulations That Significantly Affect Energy Supply, Distribution, or Use May 18 Executive Order: Actions to Expedite Energy-Related Projects May 2 Executive Order: President's Commission to Strengthen Social Security Apr. 30 Executive Order: Establishment of the President's Task Force on Puerto Rico's Status Apr. 6 Executive Order: Amendment to Executive Order 13202 Apr. 5 Executive Order: Further Amendment to Executive Order 1 Apr. 4 Executive Order: Termination of Emergency Authority For Certain Export Controls Mar. 9 Executive Order: Establishing an Emergency Board Feb. 21 Executive Order on Preservation of Open Competition and Government Neutrality Towards Government Contractors' Labor Relations on Federal and Federally Funded Construction Projects Feb. 21 Executive Order on Notification of Employee Rights Concerning Payment of Union Dues or Fees Feb. 21 Executive Order: Revocation of Executive Order on Nondisplacement of Qualified Workers under Certain Contracts Feb. 21 Executive Order and Presidential Memorandum Concerning Labor-Management Partnerships Feb. 12 Executive Order on the President's Information Technology Advisory Committee Jan. 29 Agency Responsibilities with Respect to Faith-Based and Community Initiatives Jan. 29 Executive Order: Establishment of White House Office of Faith-Based and Community Initiatives Now, I read all the orders relating to anyth
Re: What is this kernel error?
On Sun, Mar 25, 2007 at 08:21:54PM -0400, Greg Folkert wrote: > On Sun, 2007-03-25 at 18:19 -0400, Rick Pasotto wrote: > > On Sun, Mar 25, 2007 at 05:27:32PM -0400, Kevin Mark wrote: > > > On Sun, Mar 25, 2007 at 10:59:22AM -0400, Rick Pasotto wrote: > > > > This showed up for the first time today: > > > > > > > > mnr kernel: [drm:via_verify_command_stream] *ERROR* Invalid / > > > > Unimplemented DMA HEADER command. 0x44357b40 > > > > > > > > 'uname -a' gives: > > > > > > > > Linux mnr.niof.net 2.6.18-4-k7 #1 SMP Wed Feb 21 16:48:19 UTC 2007 i686 > > > > GNU/Linux > > > > > > > A little more context > > > > What else do you need? What would be helpful? > > > > I'm uptodate on etch. > > > > This line has now shown up twice in my logcheck. > > Well, you know more than we do. We don't even have the machine at our > disposal. Really? > What he was asking for, are there any correlations based on activities > performed on the machine at the same time? If I knew any such info I would have mentioned it. I get an email from logcheck once an hour. I couldn't begin to tell you exactly what I was doing 45 minutes (or whatever) ago. > Is this during boot or shutdown? Is it during a suspend sequence? or a > Wake sequence? My machine (desktop) was last booted 7 days ago. I rebooted because of the new kernel. That's why I pointed out the specific kernel. > What about writing a CD/DVD? I doubt it. I've created 4 or 5 archive DVDs since the reboot but received only two of the messages. > Is this a SCSI, IDE (PATA) or SATA machine? The main drive is SATA, the DVD writer and an auxiliary drive are IDE. > Do you have more than one Monitor? I have only one pair of eyes. In any event the monitor situation has not changed in a long time and I only recently started getting the message. > Are you watching a DVD or some kind streaming video? No. I hardly ever watch a DVD (I assume you mean prerecorded). I do view avi files that I've written to DVD. > Is this due to a SUB storage device? What is SUB? > I could go on, but I hope you get the meaning as to "a little more > context..." I gave all the info that *I* thought might be relevant. Since I have no clue as to what *might* be causing the problem (other than the change in kernel) I'm looking for guidance. > I've gone on and on and on about smart questions. Do you really want > me to post and ESR on your butt? You might be better off concentrating on intelligent answers. -- "Most people are other people. Their thoughts are someone else's opinions, their lives a mimicry, their passions a quotation." -- Oscar Wilde Rick Pasotto[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.niof.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: more sound problems
On Sat, 2007-03-24 at 22:02 -0400, Mark Grieveson wrote: > Hello. After a recent upgrade of Etch, I find I have no sound. The > volume control thingy on the top panel of gnome suddenly had a red x > beside it, and, when I pressed it, it gave me the following error: > > "The volume control did not find any elements and/or devices to control. > This means either that you do not have the right GStreamer plugins > installed, or that you do not have a sound card configured. > > You can remove the volume control from the panel by right-clicking the > speaker icon on the panel and selecting "Remove From Panel" from the > menu." > > > So, has anyone else had this issue recently? I tried running alsaconf, > and installing various gstreamer stuff, but to no avail. Okay, gstreamer is basically for handling sound and video formats through the alsa and X sub-systems. Since you have Video, I assume this because you talk about "little red Xs" we have to run the audio stuffs. Firstly: Are you a part of the "audio" group? If not, that will make everything cranky. You can fix this by adding yourself to the audio group. It'll just say "The user is already a member of audio" example: princess:~# adduser greg audio The user `greg' is already a member of `audio'. Secondly: we need to see the output of: dpkg -l | grep alsa Thirdly: you say you use alsconf. What kind of audio card does it come up with? Are you sure the snd- modules are loaded. Also, is something else grabbing a hold of the "OSS" emulation stuff and therefore you aren't getting output otherwise? Fourthly: After you run alsaconf and before you run *ANY* sound application, I need to see the output of this: lsmod | grep snd The once you run a sound app, please include the same: lsmod | grep snd Also, since you have said errors fly, please also include those. Until we see this output it'll be hard to diagnose it, unless you somehow where taken out of the "audio" group, which is an easy fix. -- greg, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Novell's Directory Services is a competitive product to Microsoft's Active Directory in much the same way that the Saturn V is a competitive product to those dinky little model rockets that kids light off down at the playfield. -- Thane Walkup -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
find encoding of filenames
1. Given a bunch of files, how can I find out the encoding of their filenames? 2. Which encoding is the best, more portable, should be preferred...? Why I need this? I am trying to burn couple of files on Debian Etch using k3b (0.12.17). These files were originally located on another machine running Fedora Core 1 and I copied them onto the Debian machine. However when I am trying to burn them using k3b, I am getting the following error Encountered an incorrectly encoded filename x.map This may be caused by a system update which changed the local character set. You may use convmv (http://j3e.de/linux/convmv/) to fix the filename encoding. Could not determine size of resulting image file. However inorder to use convmv, I need to know the original encoding and figure out the final encoding and then apply convmv. Any ideas/suggestions/comments? thanks raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ext3 fs /var corrupt :(
On Sun, 2007-03-25 at 23:00 +0200, Pim Bliek wrote: > Hi > > I need some help. I think I screwed my /var while trying to resize it > online.. :( > Nice these new features in ext3... NOT :( > > Is there anyone out here that is willing to help on this one? A > filesystem/ext3 guru? Preferable someone in the Netherlands as well, > but any help is appreciated. > > I cannot give much details here, since I do not understand my current > situation here either. Thing is, all seemed fine untill I ran fsck on > it... which removed all data from the partition :(. It is empty... > although df -h still gives me that 6 GB is used. I cannot umount it > either anymore. Totally weird situation... > > HELP I work with Debian for years now.. but never had this crap! I can tell you this, *YOU* yes YOU can recover from this problem. I did. It isn't easy, but I did it with Woody. I know Karsten Self and actually helped refine this: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/examples/debian-package-database-rebuild But I cannot seem to get the Original Document Nic Petreley wrote. Seems all of Linuxworld archives are lost. -- greg, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Novell's Directory Services is a competitive product to Microsoft's Active Directory in much the same way that the Saturn V is a competitive product to those dinky little model rockets that kids light off down at the playfield. -- Thane Walkup -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: /dev/ttyUSB0 missing (Palm device)
On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 23:10:09 +0200, Mark Grieveson wrote: >> Hi, > >> I don't see what change in Debian Sid (some dist upgrede, suposse) >> makes that the Palm sync doesn't work. > >> Seems that the reason is that the system doesn't create >> the /dev/ttyUSB0 --when the 'sync' button push. > > I have had very similar issues recently when using jpilot, and > pilot-link. I believe I'm also having similar issues with device files > with sound on my computer. I'm using Etch, and this was after a recent > upgrade. Hi Mark, Are the following helpful to you? http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=412149 http://groups.google.com/group/linux.debian.user/browse_thread/thread/8e556be21457b799/2b81bac26fa218ab Good luck, Reid -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: /dev/ttyUSB0 missing (Palm device)
On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 22:30:10 +0200, Benjamí Villoslada wrote: > El Diumenge 25 Març 2007 21:54, Marty va escriure: >> I guess that's right. Did you verify that usb_serial_visor (module or >> driver) is running? > > Is not running! and after one > > $ sudo modprobe visor > > Palm syncs again, thanks!! Hi Benjami, I'd suggest you look into libusb rather than the visor module for syncing your palm. I found that it works much better, and in particular you do not have to wait for /dev/ttyUSB0 to appear. Change the device in jpilot to "usb:" and blacklist the visor module. See also: /usr/share/doc/pilot-link/README.libusb.gz http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=399879 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=412149 Good luck, Reid -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What is this kernel error?
On Sun, 2007-03-25 at 18:19 -0400, Rick Pasotto wrote: > On Sun, Mar 25, 2007 at 05:27:32PM -0400, Kevin Mark wrote: > > On Sun, Mar 25, 2007 at 10:59:22AM -0400, Rick Pasotto wrote: > > > This showed up for the first time today: > > > > > > mnr kernel: [drm:via_verify_command_stream] *ERROR* Invalid / > > > Unimplemented DMA HEADER command. 0x44357b40 > > > > > > 'uname -a' gives: > > > > > > Linux mnr.niof.net 2.6.18-4-k7 #1 SMP Wed Feb 21 16:48:19 UTC 2007 i686 > > > GNU/Linux > > > > > A little more context > > What else do you need? What would be helpful? > > I'm uptodate on etch. > > This line has now shown up twice in my logcheck. Well, you know more than we do. We don't even have the machine at our disposal. What he was asking for, are there any correlations based on activities performed on the machine at the same time? Is this during boot or shutdown? Is it during a suspend sequence? or a Wake sequence? What about writing a CD/DVD? Is this a SCSI, IDE (PATA) or SATA machine? Do you have more than one Monitor? Are you watching a DVD or some kind streaming video? Is this due to a SUB storage device? I could go on, but I hope you get the meaning as to "a little more context..." I've gone on and on and on about smart questions. Do you really want me to post and ESR on your butt? -- greg, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Novell's Directory Services is a competitive product to Microsoft's Active Directory in much the same way that the Saturn V is a competitive product to those dinky little model rockets that kids light off down at the playfield. -- Thane Walkup -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: grub ide=nodma not working
I have no answer for you, but I am experiencing the same problem. I'm trying to find out if my Kingston CF card does not support DMA, or if my IDE-CF adaptor does not support DMA. I have also tried turning DMA off in GRUB, but it seems as though later on in the bootup sequence, Debian probes the drives again and tries to enable DMA on the CF drive. I'll post something if I find an answer. I have a SATA-CF adaptor and I think that I will be buying a CF card (Sandisk) that supports DMA... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: a dumb query? pls humor me
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/25/07 17:47, Arnt Karlsen wrote: [snip] > ..you deny the "Let's roll!"-people aboard flight UA93 their > lawful KIA status, when they "took up arms against the invading > enemy." Who says the UA93 passengers were KIA? For one thing, those passengers weren't in the military, and another, their deaths were "other than the victim of a terrorist activity". http://www.dtic.mil/doctrine/jel/doddict/data/k/02986.html killed in action (DOD) A casualty category applicable to a hostile casualty, other than the victim of a terrorist activity, who is killed outright or who dies as a result of wounds or other injuries before reaching a medical treatment facility. Also called KIA. See also casualty category. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGBwiiS9HxQb37XmcRAvlZAJ45vyfW+3nS9arEtC+c7eAqbZaMrQCfZdPi 5Pi7gVBHv1OsP/Z6PG7ez6U= =FyzF -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: a dumb query? pls humor me
On Mon, 19 Mar 2007 12:20:41 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ..reposting, last try was lost in gmane's auth queue. > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 03/18/07 20:24, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: >> On Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 02:04:42AM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > [snip] >>> ..the root cause of this war is not that "the Jews got a home land", >>> but that we (the UN) stole it from the Filistinians and renamed it to >>> "Palestine" and let Hitler gas the Jews to scare them "home", to >>> piiage Arab oil and stall Muslim Capitalism. >>> >> Wooh! I don't think I could have fit so many conspiracy theories into >> such a small space, even if I tried. > > Besides, how could "we (the UN)" have stolen Filistia(?) and let the > Jews be gassed *before* the UN even existed? > Arnt really seems to be drifting into Paul Baloo cuckoo land. .. ;o) ..I refer to the "UN" in the same way IBM refers to "SCO" in "SCOvsIBM" over at http://Groklaw.net/, the UN having its roots in Feudal Christian "EUropean" Crusading Colonist "Empires", even the remnants of the 3rd Reich are members of this 4'th Re-Feudalised Christian Anti-Muslim EUropean Empire. ..check out the 5 veto seats in the "UN Security Council", even China has deep roots in European Karl's Marx' ism. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;o) ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: a dumb query? pls humor me
..reposting, last try was lost in gmane's auth queue. On Mon, 19 Mar 2007 20:31:03 -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > On Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 08:02:55PM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote: >> On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 21:24:23 -0400, Roberto wrote in message >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> >> > Now, if any coalition troops have committed crimes in violation of >> > the Geneva conventions, then yes they need to prosecuted. >> >> ..here you are in disagrement with Sissy Boy George and in agreement >> with me and any other decent person on this planet. :o) Carry on. ;o) >> > Reference? Where has President Bush stated that war criminals should > not be prosecuted? ..here I should have said "US war criminals", Sissy Boy George decided back in October 2001 he wanted to be able to commit war crimes legally. Google for "executive orders 2001". > Where is the evidence that troops are committing war crimes? ..eh, I did this dance with Slobo's Shills too, 10-15 years back, chk your media against the full 4 Geneva Conventions. >> > Now, the terrorists are afforded no such protection under the Geneva >> > Conventions. >> >> ..if you define "terrorist" as mercenary in Article 47 in Protocol I, >> and assume they are not shipwrecked or wounded under the full 4 Geneva >> Conventions, agreed, otherwise disagreed. >> > Well, there is the whole thing about lawful combatants being required to > wear a distinguishable uniform with distinctive insignia. ..one of these suffices, both together are preferred, and you deny the "Let's roll!"-people aboard flight UA93 their lawful KIA status, when they "took up arms against the invading enemy." >> > In fact, they don't even have to be taken prisoner. They can simply >> > be shot on sight. >> >> ..actually Article 47 does require you to identify them correctly as >> mercenaries first. >> > Again, engaing in combat while not in uniform == automatically not > lawful combatant. ..you deny the "Let's roll!"-people aboard flight UA93 their lawful KIA status, when they "took up arms against the invading enemy." >> > It is the grace of the US government that efforts are made to capture >> > and detain rather than just kill outright. >> >> ..like on Gitmo and Abu Graib? >> > Well, in this case, no matter what the US does, they are wrong. Kill > them on sight (they are not lawful combatants) and > there is public outcry. ..is irrelevant, as lawful occupant you have to educate them on their rights under Article 144 in the 4'th Convention: http://www.themissing.cicr.org/IHL.nsf/WebPrint/380-600166-ART? OpenDocument http://www.icrc.org/ihl.nsf/WebPrint/380-600166-COM?OpenDocument http://www.icrc.org/IHL.nsf/WebPrint/380-600166-ART?OpenDocument > Take them prisoner and the there is public outcry. What other > options are there? ..full compliance to the full 4 Geneva Conventions. Would have allowed a fully lawful hanging of Saddam. Will allow a fully lawful hanging of W and his entire regime, Which is precisely why Sissy Boy George tries to destroy the US War Crimes Act and the Conventions, NATO and the US. ..taking action on full compliance to the full 4 Geneva Conventions, is how peace negotiations with Muslims, become _credible_. >> > As far as Sharia, why should the US subject its military forces to >> > the laws of Islam, when it doesn't even subject them to the laws of >> > Christianity? >> >> ..I dunno all the details, but Sharia has rules on POW and war >> casualties etc treatment that are in compliance to the full 4 Geneva >> Conventians, if I can believe an Indian english 1978 translation of the >> Qouran. The Bible asks Jews and Christians to kill all POW's. >> > Cite? The New Testament tells Christians to pray for their enemies, > unless your translation mistranslates "pray" as "kill". > > I do know that there is at least one instance in the Old Testament where > the Israelite were commanded to wipe out an entire people. Is that what > you are referring to? ..aye. POW's too have a specific mention. >> ..as a serviceman or even officer in the USAF, in war, you're required >> to know that Article 2 and 3 in all 4 Geneva Conventions require all >> combattants to apply the strictest combination of war waging rules to >> award any protected persons such as civilians, POW, internees, >> shipwrecked paratroopers, wounded mercenaries or objects such as >> hospitals, POW camps etc, the best possible protection from war, and >> war crime. >> >> >> > As far as foreign laws, they should have no bearing. The same way >> > that US laws should have no bearing on the actions of other >> > countries' soldiers. >> >> ..you wanna make sure your opinions help you comply to the Conventions, >> and the War Crimes Act, and local Law, if you wanna be a lawful >> combattant. >> >> > > Or, you will have to _forgive_ Osama for felling the WTC. ;o) >> > >> > I have, personally, forgiven OBL. However, that does not absolve the >> > government of pro
Re: Any feedback on Icedove?
Dear d-u: On Saturday 24 March 2007 23:35, Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto wrote: > Only to be mathematically rigorous: not only the name, but some of the > artwork, is different. I just upgraded to version 1.5.0.10 (20070307), and the new artwork is great! -- Best wishes, Max Hyre signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: deleting content of /tmp
On Sun, Mar 25, 2007 at 10:56:42AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > > All in all I think you're making a mountain out of flat grass-plains > > here. There is nothing inherently faulty, false or wrong in what the > > zebra do there. For one, it makes sure that it is truly temporary. If > > the app exits in some bizare way then no harm done. > > There are simple ways around that. Yes. Delete the file and be done with it. -- "To the extent that we overreact, we proffer the terrorists the greatest tribute." - High Court Judge Michael Kirby -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What is this kernel error?
On Sun, Mar 25, 2007 at 05:27:32PM -0400, Kevin Mark wrote: > On Sun, Mar 25, 2007 at 10:59:22AM -0400, Rick Pasotto wrote: > > This showed up for the first time today: > > > > mnr kernel: [drm:via_verify_command_stream] *ERROR* Invalid / Unimplemented > > DMA HEADER command. 0x44357b40 > > > > 'uname -a' gives: > > > > Linux mnr.niof.net 2.6.18-4-k7 #1 SMP Wed Feb 21 16:48:19 UTC 2007 i686 > > GNU/Linux > > > A little more context What else do you need? What would be helpful? I'm uptodate on etch. This line has now shown up twice in my logcheck. -- "A free people [claim] their rights as derived from the laws of nature, and not as the gift of their chief magistrate." -- Thomas Jefferson 1774 _Rights of British America_ Rick Pasotto[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.niof.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: getmail configuration (How to run fetchmail as daemon at startup)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/25/07 14:01, Andrei Popescu wrote: > Paul E Condon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> 1.) What is 'reinjection in a mail queue'? Where can I learn how this >> differs from whatever is being done by fetchmail as an example case? >> Or does fetchmail also do reinjection in a mail queue? > > As I understand it, the pop3/imap protocols were created to allow a > mail client to retrieve the mail and present it to the user. Fetchmail > instead is feeding it back to a mail server through port 25. POP & IMAP are, apples and badgers. http://www.imap.org/about/whatisIMAP.html IMAP stands for Internet Message Access Protocol. It is a method of accessing electronic mail or bulletin board messages that are kept on a (possibly shared) mail server. In other words, it permits a "client" email program to access remote message stores as if they were local. For example, email stored on an IMAP server can be manipulated from a desktop computer at home, a workstation at the office, and a note- book computer while traveling, without the need to transfer messages or files back and forth between these computers. [snip] the widely used Post Office Protocol (POP) works best when one has only a single computer, since it was designed to support "offline" message access, wherein messages are down- loaded and then deleted from the mail server. This mode of access is not compatible with access from multiple computers since it tends to sprinkle messages across all of the computers used for mail access. Thus, unless all of those machines share a common file system, the offline mode of access that POP was designed to support effectively ties the user to one computer for message storage and manipulation. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGBvIfS9HxQb37XmcRAuKhAKDNNZaX9EKTma7x09L/RZB37zMx5gCgu9bs Zab4B/fSg19sCgkCEpde2Ko= =xKtw -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Reconnect to a specific TTY session?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andy Smith wrote: > On Sat, Mar 24, 2007 at 08:50:59PM -0400, Jim Hyslop wrote: >>Thanks for the suggestion. It didn't work, unfortunately. 'screen -r >>pts-0.sirius' returns the error "There is no screen to be resumed >>matching pts-0.sirius." > > > You need to run screen *before* your laptop goes into sleep mode, > i.e. you can only re-attach to pre-existing screens. Yes, that's what I did. I started an ssh session, ran 'screen', and launched a program (man screen, IIRC). I got two or three screens running, and was able to switch between them. Then I put my laptop into standby, and brought it out, which forced the connection to be dropped. When I started the second ssh session, I got the above error message. - -- Jim Hyslop Dreampossible: Better software. Simply. http://www.dreampossible.ca Consulting * Mentoring * Training in C/C++ * OOD * SW Development & Practices * Version Management -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGBvG/LdDyDwyJw+MRAlJHAKClbMWM99TFJuamBhAPYmAG7b6M6wCeJ4Fn tQsQaD8dd6r7QZito+WZYyA= =52kz -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Copying files to a windows XP partition (mtools?)
If you dont have/cant make a vfat partition there is another option. There is a windows driver for ext2 (1) (assuming that's what you use) which enables you to copy from linux to windows when in windows. Why not just use NTFS-3G? I hear that there is a stable release since January 2007. -- Software is like sex: it is better when it is free.
Re: What is this kernel error?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Mar 25, 2007 at 10:59:22AM -0400, Rick Pasotto wrote: > This showed up for the first time today: > > mnr kernel: [drm:via_verify_command_stream] *ERROR* Invalid / Unimplemented > DMA HEADER command. 0x44357b40 > > 'uname -a' gives: > > Linux mnr.niof.net 2.6.18-4-k7 #1 SMP Wed Feb 21 16:48:19 UTC 2007 i686 > GNU/Linux > A little more context - -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal |mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/| | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keyserver: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | |join the new debian-community.org to help Debian! | -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGBulDv8UcC1qRZVMRAnmLAJ4gLYXIEXLrq+GJU0gLwUnUwxCmlACeMpuD K74lodlQYffs5NLMK6fgNPQ= =bDSj -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mutt, fetchmail & procmail on Sid
Allan Wind wrote: > procmail creates mailboxes on the fly if they are not present. If none > of your rules matched one of its delivery targets, then it uses $DEFAULT > as your final target. > mailboxes are not deleted by either procmail or mutt. > mutt reads its configuration file upon start-up, perhaps if a mailbox > did not exist when it started it will not check for updates as it > usually does? I made some experiments. I created manually some mbox. Now I deleted them, and procmail creates them on the fly. I appers me to be all in order, now... Thnax! M. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: nVidia MCP55 (was: Slow internet on AMD64 running Etch)
On Sun, Mar 25, 2007 at 10:35:11PM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote: > On Sun, Mar 25, 2007 at 22:17:35 +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote: > > On Sun, Mar 25, 2007 at 07:24:25 -0700, Dave Stephenson wrote: > > > > [...] > > > > > The network interface is integrated into the Asus M2N-e motherboard > > > > > > from lspci: > > > 00:08.0 Bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP55 Ethernet (rev a2) > > > > > > from ifconfig > > > eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:18:F3:86:8C:92 > > > inet addr:192.168.0.7 Bcast:192.168.0.255 Mask: 255.255.255.0 > > > UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:576 Metric:1 > ^^^ > > I had missed this when I sent my last message: Your MTU (Maximum > Transfer Unit) is a bit small. Try to run as root > > ifconfig eth0 mtu 1500 If this does not solve your problem, I will be able to give your more information as I am using a M2N32-SLI ... motherboard. (So forcedeth dirver). It works fine for me. -- Franck Joncourt http://www.debian.org http://smhteam.info/wiki/ GPG server : pgpkeys.mit.edu Fingerprint : C10E D1D0 EF70 0A2A CACF 9A3C C490 534E 75C0 89FE signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Copying files to a windows XP partition (mtools?)
On Sunday 25 March 2007 21:25, Wackojacko wrote: > > If you dont have/cant make a vfat partition there is another option. > There is a windows driver for ext2 (1) (assuming that's what you use) > which enables you to copy from linux to windows when in windows. > This can also be used with ext3 partitions, the journal of which it will ignore. Thomas pgpCrYRMyLP1N.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: /dev/ttyUSB0 missing (Palm device)
> Hi, > I don't see what change in Debian Sid (some dist upgrede, suposse) > makes that the Palm sync doesn't work. > Seems that the reason is that the system doesn't create > the /dev/ttyUSB0 --when the 'sync' button push. I have had very similar issues recently when using jpilot, and pilot-link. I believe I'm also having similar issues with device files with sound on my computer. I'm using Etch, and this was after a recent upgrade. Mark -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ext3 fs /var corrupt :(
Hi I need some help. I think I screwed my /var while trying to resize it online.. :( Nice these new features in ext3... NOT :( Is there anyone out here that is willing to help on this one? A filesystem/ext3 guru? Preferable someone in the Netherlands as well, but any help is appreciated. I cannot give much details here, since I do not understand my current situation here either. Thing is, all seemed fine untill I ran fsck on it... which removed all data from the partition :(. It is empty... although df -h still gives me that 6 GB is used. I cannot umount it either anymore. Totally weird situation... HELP I work with Debian for years now.. but never had this crap! Pim -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: more sound problems
> Hi Mark,
> Have your tried doing aplay from a commandline just to eliminate Gnome
> as the source of the problem. I don't use gnome so I can't help you
> there. Can you get the alsamixer to work? Or does it also complain
> that it can't find any device?
> Cheers,
> Jonathan
Alsamixer only works right after I run alsaconf ("Have a lot of
fun!"). However, this is short-lived, and it stops working shortly
thereafter. Sound never works. I suspect that alsamixer stops working
right after I try to open any application that uses sound, and any sign
that a soundcard had been set up, or even exists, vanishes.
I get the following error when I try to run alsamixer:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ alsamixer
alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$
I get the following feedback from aplay:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ aplay
ALSA lib confmisc.c:670:(snd_func_card_driver) cannot find card '0'
ALSA lib conf.c:3500:(_snd_config_evaluate) function
snd_func_card_driver returned error: No such device ALSA lib
confmisc.c:391:(snd_func_concat) error evaluating strings ALSA lib
conf.c:3500:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_concat returned
error: No such device ALSA lib confmisc.c:1070:(snd_func_refer) error
evaluating name ALSA lib conf.c:3500:(_snd_config_evaluate) function
snd_func_refer returned error: No such device ALSA lib
conf.c:3968:(snd_config_expand) Evaluate error: No such device ALSA lib
pcm.c:2143:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM default aplay: main:550:
audio open error: No such device
I tried running aplay as root after running alsaconf, and it just gets
stuck. I then ran alsaconf, changed to regular user, and ran aplay,
which gave the result I've included here above.
So, no audible cheers here.
Mark
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Re: disk device mapping on etch
On Mon, Mar 26, 2007 at 05:35:39 +0900, HIDEO MORITA wrote: > I installed etch and it works very fine. But I have only one problem. > > My machine (cpu:D940,chipset:ICH7) has inner four sata disk. > > Sata emulation is separate IDE as there is Solaris. > > I have added sata controller card (Silicon Image 3132) to my box. > > At install to inner disk (sdd), I disconnected SiI3132's drive. > > When I connect SiI3132's drive and boot etch, it fails. > > Because Sil3132'drive is mapping to sda by etch. Other Linux is normal. > > Teach me if there is any information! It might help to use disk labels to avoid this problem. See Bob McGowan's nice summary here: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2006/09/msg01901.html -- Regards, Florian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
disk device mapping on etch
I installed etch and it works very fine. But I have only one problem. My machine (cpu:D940,chipset:ICH7) has inner four sata disk. Sata emulation is separate IDE as there is Solaris. I have added sata controller card (Silicon Image 3132) to my box. At install to inner disk (sdd), I disconnected SiI3132's drive. When I connect SiI3132's drive and boot etch, it fails. Because Sil3132'drive is mapping to sda by etch. Other Linux is normal. Teach me if there is any information! Hideo Morita
Re: nVidia MCP55 (was: Slow internet on AMD64 running Etch)
On Sun, Mar 25, 2007 at 22:17:35 +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote: > On Sun, Mar 25, 2007 at 07:24:25 -0700, Dave Stephenson wrote: > > [...] > > > The network interface is integrated into the Asus M2N-e motherboard > > > > from lspci: > > 00:08.0 Bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP55 Ethernet (rev a2) > > > > from ifconfig > > eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:18:F3:86:8C:92 > > inet addr:192.168.0.7 Bcast:192.168.0.255 Mask: 255.255.255.0 > > UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:576 Metric:1 ^^^ I had missed this when I sent my last message: Your MTU (Maximum Transfer Unit) is a bit small. Try to run as root ifconfig eth0 mtu 1500 and check if this improves your external connection speed. You can use http://www.testmy.net/ to measure your download and upload rates. -- Regards, Florian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: /dev/ttyUSB0 missing (Palm device)
El Diumenge 25 Març 2007 21:54, Marty va escriure: > I guess that's right. Did you verify that usb_serial_visor (module or > driver) is running? Is not running! and after one $ sudo modprobe visor Palm syncs again, thanks!! Any idea about the reason because this module is not running? (from the last 15 days aprox, and I didn't change anyting related... that I can remember) in order to send one bug (is one Debian Sid) or investigate more. Regards, -- Benjamí http://blog.bitassa.cat .
nVidia MCP55 (was: Slow internet on AMD64 running Etch)
On Sun, Mar 25, 2007 at 07:24:25 -0700, Dave Stephenson wrote: [...] > The network interface is integrated into the Asus M2N-e motherboard > > from lspci: > 00:08.0 Bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP55 Ethernet (rev a2) > > from ifconfig > eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:18:F3:86:8C:92 > inet addr:192.168.0.7 Bcast:192.168.0.255 Mask: > 255.255.255.0 > UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:576 Metric:1 > RX packets:36594 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 > TX packets:29243 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 > collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 > RX bytes:15710931 (14.9 MiB) TX bytes:3214944 (3.0 MiB) > Interrupt:50 Base address:0x4000 > > loLink encap:Local Loopback > inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 > inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host > UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 > RX packets:84 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 > TX packets:84 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 > collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 > RX bytes:18472 (18.0 KiB) TX bytes:18472 (18.0 KiB) That looks normal to me. Your card should be supported by the "forcedeth" module. If I understand your previous email correctly then you have high transfer rates on your internal network, so maybe your slow external connection is not a hardware/driver issue. You can nevertheless check if you see any error messages when you run dmesg | grep -i forcedeth directly after boot. Maybe somebody else knows anything more specific about this card. (I changed the subject line to make it more noticeable.) It also cannot hurt if you post the output of /sbin/modinfo forcedeth (This will provide some more info about the driver, its version, etc.) -- Regards, Florian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: remove from list please
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Re: 2nd try: anybody familiar with php4-curl?
On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 15:57:46 -0400 Miles Fidelman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Celejar wrote: > > Miles Fidelman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> I'm trying to install a package that requires curl support, and it's > >> installer tells me that curl isn't enabled. > >> > well, the problem has been solved (see previous posting to debian-user) > but, to answer your questions ... > > > > Which package? > > > zencart > >> I'm running Debian Sarge, Apache2, PHP-4, and I thought I had installed > >> php4-curl when I did my initial installs (apt-get install php4-curl) > >> tells me that it's up to date. > >> > > > > Are we talking about a PHP package? curl is a standalone application as > > well as a part of lots of others and libraries. Can you be more > > specific about what you're trying to install and what sort of curl it > > requires? > > > php4-curl is a debian package with all the glue for accessing curl from > php4, and apt-get will > install all the curl libraries > > > You need to be clearer about what exactly you're trying to do. [Not a > > flame; just a request for more info.] > well, I thought I had - php was telling me that php-curl was not installed > even though I had installed the php4-curl package and all its dependencies > > and I asked if there was anything I needed to do to complete installation > > As previously answered by somebody on the list (thanks again!), the answer > was: > > add the line: > extension=curl.so > to /etc/php4/apache2/php.ini > and restart apache > > Works like a charm. Thanks, sorry for my noise :). Celejar -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to run fetchmail as daemon at startup
On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 19:43:01 -0500 cga2000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Mar 23, 2007 at 10:13:30AM EST, Ron Johnson wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > On 03/23/07 09:07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > [snip] > > > > > > Thanks, that's exactly what I want to do. I sometimes access my > > > home email while at work via the web interface, and if my wife or kids > > > are at home using the computer, fetchmail may download and delete it. > > > Or I could download it at night and not have time to respond. I know > > > that I could set fetchmail to not delete the messages and do it > > > manually from the web interface, but I'd rather not do it that way. > > > > > > I hadn't seen a way to do this delayed deletion easily with > > > fetchmail, although I may not have looked thoroughly. > > > > Install Apache-ssl, Squirrelmail and imap-ssl. > > > > No, really. POP, being the Post Office Protocol, is not designed to > > do what you want it to do. (You don't go to your PO box every hour > > hours to *read* your mail, putting the open mail back in the PO box, > > do you?) > > No indeed .. nor do I want the postal lady to pull over in front of my > house every ten minutes. > am away > What's wrong with hitting "G" as in "G-imme-my-mail", the way I do it > in mutt? > > Don't fancy a client-side daemon or cron job taking off necessarily at > the wrong possible time .. hogging my CPU and internet when I'm in the > middle of something else. > > Is there anything the matter with my approach to mail .. or e-mail .. > getting to it in my own time .. when I feel sociable and when I can > spare a few minutes to reply to it .. ?? > > Or are you folks in positions where you must be notified within minutes > and respond likewise? I actually usually do POP manually (either Getmail or Sylpheed's built in POP client), but automating it could be useful if I am away for a while and I don't want to return to several thousand messages waiting to be downloaded. Celejar -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 2nd try: anybody familiar with php4-curl?
Celejar wrote: Miles Fidelman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm trying to install a package that requires curl support, and it's installer tells me that curl isn't enabled. well, the problem has been solved (see previous posting to debian-user) but, to answer your questions ... Which package? zencart I'm running Debian Sarge, Apache2, PHP-4, and I thought I had installed php4-curl when I did my initial installs (apt-get install php4-curl) tells me that it's up to date. Are we talking about a PHP package? curl is a standalone application as well as a part of lots of others and libraries. Can you be more specific about what you're trying to install and what sort of curl it requires? php4-curl is a debian package with all the glue for accessing curl from php4, and apt-get will install all the curl libraries You need to be clearer about what exactly you're trying to do. [Not a flame; just a request for more info.] well, I thought I had - php was telling me that php-curl was not installed even though I had installed the php4-curl package and all its dependencies and I asked if there was anything I needed to do to complete installation As previously answered by somebody on the list (thanks again!), the answer was: add the line: extension=curl.so to /etc/php4/apache2/php.ini and restart apache Works like a charm. Miles -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
