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Alejandro Barcena Campos wrote:
> Well, I have only used once, without any problems. 
I meant, that the only time I used, I didn't get any trouble. =)

> 
> After you resize it, the next time you boot in windows, it will run a
   ^into
> 'check disk tool', that takes a while too, atumatically.
  ^automatically
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Re: Disabling Write-Caching

2007-04-09 Thread CaT

On Tue, Apr 10, 2007 at 01:43:54AM -0400, Greg Folkert wrote:
> On Tue, 2007-04-10 at 15:39 +1000, CaT wrote:
> > On Tue, Apr 10, 2007 at 01:28:38AM -0400, Greg Folkert wrote:
> > DB monkies generally like turning it off as it has proven to cause data
> > loss in certain corner cases. Good DB monkies tend to be very paranoid
> > of their data.
> 
> Do these DB monkies also force multi-million dollar system with 32GB
> caching controllers (with battery backup for the RAM) to turn off the
> cache?

Those tend to have HDs which properly report the status of the data (ie
when theys ay 'data is on the platter' the data actually /is/ in the
platter. No foolin'.

> I've seen it, forcing the $COMPANY to invest in even larger machines,
> with diminishing results. Turn cache back on, it is like a whole nuther
> 20 processors added. We are talking Multi-vpath stuff here.

That depends on wether the gains made by turning the cache on outweigh
the potential disadvantages of turning the cache on. A good DB monkey
will provide said company with a risk analysis and get them to sign off
on one or the other.

> Good DBMonkies also force the DB software to do a sync'd write through
> to the drives or logical drive in any case. Blah, no tthe place to
> discuss this vitriol.

sync writes don't mean much when the HD lies.

> Screwy. And if they are using PATA drives on critical data, stupid.
> Unless they are behind a SAN or something similar... which is going to
> have huge caching involved caching. 

It all depends on the needs of the people involved and the size of their
budget.

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Re: Using Etch to resize NTFS partitions??

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Randy Patterson wrote:
> I know that there is never any guarantees but is the process considered 
> pretty 
> reliable? Will it generally get the partition resized without rendering 
> Windoze unbootable? [Home PC that my wife uses for email!! :-)]
Well, I have only used once, without any problems. If you want, you may
first boot into windows and run a defragmenter tool and scandisk, but I
really don't know if ntfs needs it.

After you resize it, the next time you boot in windows, it will run a
'check disk tool', that takes a while too, atumatically.

> 
> Thanks,
> Randy
=)

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Problems with sarge to etch upgrade

2007-04-09 Thread Patrick Cummings

Hello list,
I just upgraded from sarge to etch using apt-get dist-upgrade. I have a few 
problems. The OS won't completely start. I made a complete capture of the 
console output, if anybody is kind enough to try to understand what is 
happening and help me.
 
 
 
Linux version 2.6.18-4-686 (Debian 2.6.18.dfsg.1-12) ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc 
version 4.1.2 20061115 (prerelease) (Debian 4.1.1-21)) #1 SMP Mon Mar 26 
17:17:36 UTC 2007BIOS-provided physical RAM map: BIOS-e820:  - 
0009d400 (usable) BIOS-e820: 0009d400 - 000a 
(reserved) BIOS-e820: 000e4400 - 0010 (reserved) BIOS-e820: 
0010 - 4fff (usable) BIOS-e820: 4fff - 
4c00 (ACPI data) BIOS-e820: 4c00 - 5000 
(ACPI NVS) BIOS-e820: fec0 - fec1 (reserved) BIOS-e820: 
fee0 - fee01000 (reserved) BIOS-e820: fff0 - 
0001 (reserved)383MB HIGHMEM available.896MB LOWMEM available.found 
SMP MP-table at 000f6900DMI 2.3 present.ACPI: PM-Timer IO Port: 0x404ACPI: 
LAPIC (acpi_id[0x00] lapic_id[0x00] enabled)Processor #0 6:8 APIC version 
17ACPI: LAPIC (acpi_id[0x01] lapic_id[0x03] enabled)Processor #3 6:8 APIC 
version 17ACPI: LAPIC_NMI (acpi_id[0x00] high edge lint[0x1])ACPI: LAPIC_NMI 
(acpi_id[0x01] high edge lint[0x1])ACPI: IOAPIC (id[0x04] address[0xfec0] 
gsi_base[0])IOAPIC[0]: apic_id 4, version 17, address 0xfec0, GSI 0-15ACPI: 
IOAPIC (id[0x05] address[0xfec01000] gsi_base[16])IOAPIC[1]: apic_id 5, version 
17, address 0xfec01000, GSI 16-31ACPI: INT_SRC_OVR (bus 0 bus_irq 9 global_irq 
31 low level)Enabling APIC mode:  Flat.  Using 2 I/O APICsUsing ACPI (MADT) for 
SMP configuration informationAllocating PCI resources starting at 6000 
(gap: 5000:aec0)Detected 999.840 MHz processor.Built 1 zonelists.  
Total pages: 327664Kernel command line: root=/dev/sda1 ro console=tty0 
console=ttyS1,57600n8 Enabling fast FPU save and restore... done.Enabling 
unmasked SIMD FPU exception support... done.Initializing CPU#0PID hash table 
entries: 4096 (order: 12, 16384 bytes)Console: colour VGA+ 80x25Dentry cache 
hash table entries: 131072 (order: 7, 524288 bytes)Inode-cache hash table 
entries: 65536 (order: 6, 262144 bytes)Memory: 1290548k/1310656k available 
(1544k kernel code, 18860k reserved, 577k data, 196k init, 393152k 
highmem)Checking if this processor honours the WP bit even in supervisor 
mode... Ok.Calibrating delay using timer specific routine.. 2000.58 BogoMIPS 
(lpj=4001174)Security Framework v1.0.0 initializedSELinux:  Disabled at 
boot.Capability LSM initializedMount-cache hash table entries: 512CPU: L1 I 
cache: 16K, L1 D cache: 16KCPU: L2 cache: 256KIntel machine check architecture 
supported.Intel machine check reporting enabled on CPU#0.Compat vDSO mapped to 
e000.Checking 'hlt' instruction... OK.SMP alternatives: switching to UP 
codeACPI: Core revision 20060707CPU0: Intel Pentium III (Coppermine) stepping 
0aSMP alternatives: switching to SMP codeBooting processor 1/0 eip 
3000Initializing CPU#1Calibrating delay using timer specific routine.. 1999.60 
BogoMIPS (lpj=3999219)CPU: L1 I cache: 16K, L1 D cache: 16KCPU: L2 cache: 
256KIntel machine check architecture supported.Intel machine check reporting 
enabled on CPU#1.CPU1: Intel Pentium III (Coppermine) stepping 0aTotal of 2 
processors activated (4000.19 BogoMIPS).ENABLING IO-APIC IRQs..TIMER: 
vector=0x31 apic1=0 pin1=0 apic2=-1 pin2=-1checking TSC synchronization across 
2 CPUs: passed.Brought up 2 CPUsmigration_cost=821checking if image is 
initramfs... it isFreeing initrd memory: 5100k freedNET: Registered protocol 
family 16ACPI: bus type pci registeredPCI: PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 
0xfdb57, last bus=3PCI: Using configuration type 1Setting up standard PCI 
resourcesACPI: Interpreter enabledACPI: Using IOAPIC for interrupt routingACPI: 
PCI Interrupt Link [IR1] (IRQs 5 10) *9ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LN0E] (IRQs 
*14)ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LN10] (IRQs *16)ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LN11] 
(IRQs *17)ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LN12] (IRQs *18)ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link 
[LN13] (IRQs *19)ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LN14] (IRQs *20)ACPI: PCI Interrupt 
Link [LN15] (IRQs *21)ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LN16] (IRQs *22)ACPI: PCI 
Interrupt Link [LN17] (IRQs *23)ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LN18] (IRQs *24)ACPI: 
PCI Interrupt Link [LN19] (IRQs *25)ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LN1A] (IRQs 
*26)ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LN1B] (IRQs *27)ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LN1C] 
(IRQs *28)ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LN1D] (IRQs *29)ACPI: PCI Root Bridge 
[PCI0] (:00)PCI: Firmware left :00:03.0 e100 interrupts enabled, 
disablingPCI: Firmware left :00:07.0 e100 interrupts enabled, disablingPCI: 
Firmware left :02:04.0 e100 interrupts enabled, disablingPCI: Firmware left 
:02:05.0 e100 interrupts enabled, disablingACPI: Embedded Controller [EC0] 
(gpe 4) interrupt mode.ACPI:

Re: [Multi] Wireless Network Configuration

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Michael Pobega wrote:
>> I used to have the same problem, so I made a very little script for
>> that, you  can see it here[1], even do it is in spanish, I think you can
>> figure it out by just seeing the code.
> 
>> [1]
>> http://alejandro.barcena.com.mx/index.php/blog/show/Conectndome_a_diferentes_access_points.html
> 
> Looks very interesting. I do have a question though; I am not good at
> bash (yet) and nor do I speak Spanish, would it be possible to throw
> together a quick translation of the bash script? I understand the
> /etc/network/interfaces bit, but the bash script is kind of confusing to
> me.
> 
> And can you explain how to use it?
> 
> I'm sorry, I'm kind of a bash newb :)
> 
== Begin of script ==
#!/bin/bash

whichessid=""
available=`iwlist eth2 scanning |grep ESSID | cut -d \" -f2`

# The following 'essid' and 'map' variables are filled up with the
# ones you have at /etc/network/interfaces
# for example:
# mapping eth2
#   script /usr/local/sbin/which-wlan.sh #<-- this is the location
## of this script
#
#map hotel eth2-hoteltuxtepec
# ^essid^map

while read essid map
do
   if [ "$whichessid" ]
   then
  continue
   fi

   if [[ -n `echo $available |grep $essid` ]]
   then
  whichessid=$map
   fi
done
if [ "$whichessid" ]
then
   echo $whichessid
   exit 0
fi
exit 1
== End of Script ==

I hope this helps.

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Re: Disabling Write-Caching

On Tue, 2007-04-10 at 15:39 +1000, CaT wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 10, 2007 at 01:28:38AM -0400, Greg Folkert wrote:
> > caching is still okay to use. Why else would manufacturers put cache
> > ON-BOARD the  hard-drives if it was BAD... do you think they LIKE
> > SPENDING MONEY on things that won't be used? They would rather just not
> > include it and save more money.
> 
> To improve benchmark performance and have ever increasing numbers
> describing the porduct available so as to increase sales. Coincidentally
> it does also have a positive effect on percieved HD performance.
> 
> DB monkies generally like turning it off as it has proven to cause data
> loss in certain corner cases. Good DB monkies tend to be very paranoid
> of their data.

Do these DB monkies also force multi-million dollar system with 32GB
caching controllers (with battery backup for the RAM) to turn off the
cache?

I've seen it, forcing the $COMPANY to invest in even larger machines,
with diminishing results. Turn cache back on, it is like a whole nuther
20 processors added. We are talking Multi-vpath stuff here.

Good DBMonkies also force the DB software to do a sync'd write through
to the drives or logical drive in any case. Blah, no tthe place to
discuss this vitriol.

Screwy. And if they are using PATA drives on critical data, stupid.
Unless they are behind a SAN or something similar... which is going to
have huge caching involved caching. 
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Re: DPMS stops working (ATI, openGl issue?)

On Mon, 2007-04-09 at 20:13 -0700, Erik Steffl wrote:
> Sven Arvidsson wrote:
> > On Mon, 2007-04-09 at 01:28 -0700, Erik Steffl wrote:
> >>When I start X DPMS is working (monitor is turned off), however after 
> >> some time it stops working (i.e. monitor is always on).
> > [...]
> >>fglrx-driver 8.31.5-1 (proprietary driver)
> > 
> > The first thing I would try to eliminate would be the proprietary
> > drivers. Try without them, and see if things improve.
> 
>but free drivers have no openGL so that's not going to help me, as 
> far as I know they are not similar at all so if I figure out that free 
> drivers work it won't shed any more light on proprietary drivers.
> 
>I checked http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/R300 for the status of free 
> driver, seems like the work is progressing but it's not ready yet (as 
> far as I can tell).
> 
>any other ideas? did anybody else notice that openGL (or somnething) 
> disables DPMS?

He said, TRY IT FOR A SHORT TIME. Not forever. It is a tried and true
troubleshooting method. Chnage one thing at a time until you find the
issue. It might not be the problem.

I am guessing that the REAL culprit is an OpenGL screensaver. Change
your screensaver to just "blank the screen" and then see if things pan
out or not. Also, if you are using the "GNOME Screensaver" remove it and
install the xscreensaver and xscreensavergl packages. There are some
inconsistent things that happen with the GNOME version. 

Recently someone else had complaints about log entries, thinking they
were being cracked or something silly. But turned out to be a
screensaver that hadn't quite been updated.
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Re: [Multi] Wireless Network Configuration

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On Tue, Apr 10, 2007 at 12:28:57PM +, Mihira Fernando wrote:
> Michael Pobega wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Does it work outside of X.Org though? I know WiFi-Radar has a daemon
> > mode, but it never seemed to work for me (Maybe I was using it wrong).
>
> I dont use it outside X but the developers say to start it at boot time
> so I guess it is possible to run it outside X.
> 

I've tried that before, and it just doesn't work for me.

The mainsite says there is a script in /etc/init.d/ for wifi-radar, but
it's not there. And whenever I run wifi-radar -d I just don't connect to
anything (I let the system sit for a couple of minutes and it just
didn't seem to do anything).

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Re: Disabling Write-Caching

2007-04-09 Thread CaT

On Tue, Apr 10, 2007 at 01:28:38AM -0400, Greg Folkert wrote:
> caching is still okay to use. Why else would manufacturers put cache
> ON-BOARD the  hard-drives if it was BAD... do you think they LIKE
> SPENDING MONEY on things that won't be used? They would rather just not
> include it and save more money.

To improve benchmark performance and have ever increasing numbers
describing the porduct available so as to increase sales. Coincidentally
it does also have a positive effect on percieved HD performance.

DB monkies generally like turning it off as it has proven to cause data
loss in certain corner cases. Good DB monkies tend to be very paranoid
of their data.

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Re: Disabling Write-Caching

On Tue, 2007-04-10 at 07:03 +0200, Jonathan Kaye wrote:
> I see that Lenny came to town yesterday. I've been tracking Testing and
> yesterday doing an update+upgrade gave me about 230 packages to upgrade.
> All went normally and my system is still purring along happily :-) I did
> get a warning about hdparm. It said that /dev/hda had Write chaching
> enabled and this was not a good idea because in the event of a power
> failure it could cause serious data loss.
> 
> Not being one to argue, I dutifully did #hdparm -W 0 /dev/hda and now
> write-caching is no longer enabled. For my own reassurance, was this the
> sensible thing to do?

Yeah... personally, that is someone smoking the "paranoia" crack. I've
only ever had problems when I was using a couple of western digital
drives and then it was corrected by firmware updates to the drives.
(replacement from Western Digital)

Show me where this has really been a problem in the last 4 years. Before
then, maybe. Things have changed firmware has gotten better, write
caching is still okay to use. Why else would manufacturers put cache
ON-BOARD the  hard-drives if it was BAD... do you think they LIKE
SPENDING MONEY on things that won't be used? They would rather just not
include it and save more money.
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Re: [Multi] Wireless Network Configuration

2007-04-09 Thread Mihira Fernando

Michael Pobega wrote:

> 
> Does it work outside of X.Org though? I know WiFi-Radar has a daemon
> mode, but it never seemed to work for me (Maybe I was using it wrong).
I dont use it outside X but the developers say to start it at boot time
so I guess it is possible to run it outside X.


> Any idea where I can find relevant documentation on getting WiFi-Radar's
> daemon? 
http://wifi-radar.systemimager.org/



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Re: network problem on a dell machine

2007-04-09 Thread William Xu

Thilo Six <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Greg Folkert wrote the following on 09.04.2007 20:27:
>
> 
>
>>> you said you can ping google.com?
>>> -> name resolution works
>>
>> I doubt it. Unless he has a /etc/hosts entry for it.
>>
>> I believe his /etc/resolv.conf is screwed.
>
> After thinking about it that would explain this curiosity but then he has
> fooled me.

No, they are okay. Nothing special there.

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Re: network problem on a dell machine

2007-04-09 Thread William Xu

Thilo Six <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> hmm
> let us summarize
>
> you are able to establish http connections via telnet?
> (you received the plain html code in terminal?)

http is only possible when i use a proxy. Currently i've set http_proxy
to a neighbour machine, namely http://192.168.60.111:/. (by using
tinyproxy in debian)

Also, one more thing i'd like to mention, when i install debian on this
machine, i try to install sid via internet. The weird thing is that it's
unable to download packages from internet. I've even waited one day to
see whether it would work. But suprisingly, it just stops at the step
trying to download packages, no progress, no error too. Looks like it
has fallen into some strange loop.

While, again, after i set a http proxy first, it starts installing
quickly and successfully.

> you said you can ping google.com?
> -> name resolution works

Yes. And ping everything looks okay.

> your mtu looks fine
>
> ..but you are not able to browse?
>
> What error does it give you actually?
> timeout?

Connection has been reset.

> These other machines in that network that ones which do work do they have the
> same hardware (nic)?

The one with the same hardware also has this problem first, then he has
switched to ubuntu 6.06(kernel seems 2.6.15).

> What gives you
> sysctl -a | grep window_scaling
> and compare that with the working ones.

,[ sudo sysctl -a | grep window_scaling ]
| error: "Success" reading key "dev.parport.parport0.autoprobe3"
| error: "Success" reading key "dev.parport.parport0.autoprobe2"
| error: "Success" reading key "dev.parport.parport0.autoprobe1"
| error: "Success" reading key "dev.parport.parport0.autoprobe0"
| error: "Success" reading key "dev.parport.parport0.autoprobe"
| error: "Operation not permitted" reading key "net.ipv4.route.flush"
| error: "Invalid argument" reading key "fs.binfmt_misc.register"
| net.ipv4.tcp_window_scaling = 1
`

Oh, his machine is unreachable for me currently..

> ...and just in case, your kernel isn´t home brewed?

No.

All in all, I doubt there are some network related flaws between linux
kernel and the dell machine. I think i might try another kernel with
different version later.

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Re: apt-mirror trouble when using local repo

2007-04-09 Thread Tshepang Lekhonkhobe

On 4/10/07, David E. Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Tue, 20 Mar 2007 14:59:15 +0200
"Tshepang Lekhonkhobe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I got Debian DVD Etch src iso files which I'd like loop-mount and use
> as my repo sources for apt-mirror to use. This is so that I don't have

EMFBI, but wouldn't it be easier to use apt-cdrom to add the dvd as a
source for later installs rather than an apt-mirror solution & a
loopback mount? Seems to be more work than needed. OTOH when I had a
cd-less system and Mandrake, I had all available ISOs loopback mounted
for exactly that purpose - although each ISO was still listed as a cdrom
source, rather than a mirror source per se.

Maybe me not understand, but thing is I don't have them burned yet. I
think there's some bug in apt-mirror, and having lost interest decided
to modify debmirror to only download deb-src stuff.

note: I tried apt-mirror only because it allows deb-src-only downloads.

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Disabling Write-Caching

2007-04-09 Thread Jonathan Kaye

I see that Lenny came to town yesterday. I've been tracking Testing and
yesterday doing an update+upgrade gave me about 230 packages to upgrade.
All went normally and my system is still purring along happily :-) I did
get a warning about hdparm. It said that /dev/hda had Write chaching
enabled and this was not a good idea because in the event of a power
failure it could cause serious data loss.

Not being one to argue, I dutifully did #hdparm -W 0 /dev/hda and now
write-caching is no longer enabled. For my own reassurance, was this the
sensible thing to do?
TIA,
Jonathan


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RE: etch upgrade problem

Seth Goodman wrote:

>> I think your problem is in this section, see below.
>> 
>> > (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/psaux
>> > No such device.
>> > (EE) Configured Mouse: cannot open input device
>> > (EE) PreInit failed for input device "Configured Mouse" (II)
>> > UnloadModule: "mouse" (WW) No core pointer registered
>> > (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Generic Keyboard" (type:
>> > KEYBOARD) xkb_keycodes { include
>> > "xfree86+aliases(qwerty)" }; xkb_types{ include
>> > "complete" }; xkb_compatibility{ include "complete" };
>> > xkb_symbols  { include "pc(pc105)+us" };
>> > xkb_geometry { include "pc(pc104)" };
>> > No core pointer
>> > 
>> > Fatal server error:
>> > failed to initialize core devices
>> ^^^
>> X cannot find your mouse. Try another device instead of /dev/psaux. I
>> have /dev/input/mice
> 
> Same result.
> 

Well, What kind of mouse do you have? Is it PS/2, USB mouse, wireless mouse
etc.,?

For starters, you can also use "AllowMouseOpenFail" option in your xorg.conf
and tell the machine to start X despite a failure due to mouse. More
details can be found in 'man xorg.conf'. After that you can configure the
mouse separately knowing that everything else is working.

hth
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Re: Off Topic - Open source flash support not looking too hopeless?

2007-04-09 Thread Ananda Samaddar

On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 00:30:02 -0400
Michael Pobega <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

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> On Tue, Apr 10, 2007 at 04:17:47AM +0100, Ananda Samaddar wrote:
> > Hi Everyone,
> > 
> > After one of my usual bored web browsing sessions I came across these
> > items:
> > 
> > http://www.mozilla.org/projects/tamarin/
> > http://applications.linux.com/comments.pl?sid=38263&cid=97469
> > 
> > Adobe have opened the source code to their Action Script virtual
> > machine (the Tamarin project) and the main developer of swfdec states
> > in the second link (if it's him) that Flash 8 Video support would be
> > easy to add to swfdec.  What does everyone else think of this?  I
> > personally find it shocking that a proprietary software product has
> > become a de facto web standard.  Surely a FLOSS Flash player would go
> > some way to remedying such a reliance on a proprietary product?  Am I
> > clutching at straws?  We already have Gnash and swfdec but they are as
> > of yet not fully Flash 9 compatible.  Will the Tamarin project be of
> > any use to them?
> > 
> > regards,
> > 
> > Ananda Samaddar
> > 
> > 
> 
> This is one of those subjects that becomes a question of standards;
> Whether to adhere to the standards or use only DFSG-free software.
> 
> Personally I use only DFSG-free software, and I really don't find Gnash
> usable (Of course, if it was what would be the point of this topic?)
> 
> There definitely needs to be a FLOSS alternative to Adobe's flash
> player, but I have to say browsing the internet without flash is
> actually much nicer than having flash.

Well I'm using AMD64 Etch on a brand new Dell Inspiron 6400 and I used PowerPC 
Etch exclusively on an old iBook G3 just before I got this machine.  Both of 
these architectures obviously have no native flash support under GNU/Linux.  I 
have to agree with you though, apart from the very occassional youtube video 
link I get sent I barely seem to miss having flash available.  I just think in 
the long run it would be useful, especially as we should have access to Sun's 
Java implementation under the GPL this year.  A free software flash 
implementation would be the 'last piece of the jigsaw'.  

Anyway you can't always escape proprietary software, I need to use fglrx for my 
ATI card and the ipw3945 binary daemon for wireless connectivity.  If I could 
find a way to remove them I would.  As an aside anybody know how free software 
drivers for the newer ATI cards are coming along?  I've heard of the Nouveau 
project for NVidia hardware but nothing on the ATI front.

regards,

Ananda Samaddar

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Re: Netgear WPN311 Wireless G problems

2007-04-09 Thread Grok Mogger


Florian Kulzer wrote:

On Mon, Apr 09, 2007 at 11:37:03 -0400, Grok Mogger wrote:

[...]

 Hey everyone, thanks a lot for the advice!  I ended up getting a Netgear 
 WPN311 Wireless G PCI card.  Now I'm just trying to get the darn thing 
 working.  Right now, I'm actually using the desktop install of Ubuntu 6.10, 
 Edgy Eft.  I've followed the advice here: 
 http://www.ubuntugeek.com/enable-wpa-wireless-access-point-in-ubuntu.html


 to the letter.  No dice.  I don't see the small graphic of blue bars that 
 the author has pictured.  What I find really strange is that my card just 
 doesn't seem to be finding any wireless networks at all.  I click the icon 
 that looks like two little black monitors, and I have a "Wired Network" 
 option, but then under the "Wireless Networks" there is just nothing.  Like 
 my card isn't picking up anything.  (I know there are a few wireless 
 networks in my area that it should see)


 In Device Manager the card is identified as a "AR5212 802.11abg NIC" and it 
 has two entries underneath it, a "WLAN Interface" and an "Unknown Device".


 I figure whatever I've messed up, I've done such a fantastic job of it that 
 I'll just have to figure out for myself, but does anything jump out at 
 anyone right away?


Step 1 is: Run "iwconfig" as root and post the output here.

Further steps depend on the outcome of step 1.



Here's the output of "sudo iwconfig".

lono wireless extensions.

wifi0 no wireless extensions.

ath0  IEEE 802.11g  ESSID:""
  Mode:Managed  Channel:0  Access Point: Not-Associated
  Bit Rate:0 kb/s   Tx-Power:18 dBm   Sensitivity=0/3
  Retry:off   RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
  Encryption key:off
  Power Management:off
  Link Quality=0/94  Signal level=-95 dBm  Noise 
level=-95 dBm

  Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0
  Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:0

eth0  no wireless extensions.

sit0  no wireless extensions.


Thanks in advance for the help!
- GM


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Re: Netgear WPN311 Madwifi WPA2 Configuration Help

2007-04-09 Thread Ananda Samaddar

On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 00:14:38 -0400
Grok Mogger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  Can anyone help me get started?  I'm using the desktop 
> install of Ubuntu 6.10 Edgy Eft.  I actually installed the 
> Netgear card after I installed Ubuntu, if that might matter. 

You're better off asking at the Ubuntu Forums.  The web address for them is, 
http:/www.ubuntuforums.org . This is a Debian mailing list after all and Ubuntu 
seems to be diverging more and more from Debian with each release.  

Anyway though you need to see first of all whether or not it's detected 
correctly.  The output of the lspci and dmesg commands will tell you that.  
Also your card is one of the Atheros cards so it should be supported by the 
madwifi drivers.  Try installing the 'linux-restricted-modules-' package 
via Synaptic, where  is your Kernel image's name.  If your card is 
correctly detected you can enable it in GNOME in the networking options in the 
system menu and the Gnome Network Manager should then connect fine.  

That's all I can recommend really, I switched from Debian to Ubuntu about a 
year ago and have recently come back to Debian.  Like I said though you'll be 
better off asking the on the official Ubuntu support channels rather than the 
Debian ones.

regards,

Ananda Samaddar

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Re: New package for ktorrent

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> Hello,
> I've just finished upgrading the ktorrent package to the latest mainstream 
> version, 2.1.3. I am running it and it seems ok.
> Is there some way in which I can *contribute* this package back to Debian?
> Thanks.

You would have to become a package manager for the kTorrent package, but
to do that you'll need to have it adhere to the Debian package
guidelines[0]. You'll have to thoroughly test it and document the
repositories, although I'm not sure how any of this really works if the
package already exists in Debian.

http://wiki.debian.org/HowToPackageForDebian

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Re: Off Topic - Open source flash support not looking too hopeless?

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On Tue, Apr 10, 2007 at 04:17:47AM +0100, Ananda Samaddar wrote:
> Hi Everyone,
> 
> After one of my usual bored web browsing sessions I came across these
> items:
> 
> http://www.mozilla.org/projects/tamarin/
> http://applications.linux.com/comments.pl?sid=38263&cid=97469
> 
> Adobe have opened the source code to their Action Script virtual
> machine (the Tamarin project) and the main developer of swfdec states
> in the second link (if it's him) that Flash 8 Video support would be
> easy to add to swfdec.  What does everyone else think of this?  I
> personally find it shocking that a proprietary software product has
> become a de facto web standard.  Surely a FLOSS Flash player would go
> some way to remedying such a reliance on a proprietary product?  Am I
> clutching at straws?  We already have Gnash and swfdec but they are as
> of yet not fully Flash 9 compatible.  Will the Tamarin project be of
> any use to them?
> 
> regards,
> 
> Ananda Samaddar
> 
> 

This is one of those subjects that becomes a question of standards;
Whether to adhere to the standards or use only DFSG-free software.

Personally I use only DFSG-free software, and I really don't find Gnash
usable (Of course, if it was what would be the point of this topic?)

There definitely needs to be a FLOSS alternative to Adobe's flash
player, but I have to say browsing the internet without flash is
actually much nicer than having flash.

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Re: [debian-user] Virus, Trojan, and Worm

2007-04-09 Thread David E. Fox

On Wed, 07 Mar 2007 14:36:46 -0700
"Ted Hilts - Thunderbird Acct." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Has antivirus software advanced to the point that the following excerpt 
> from Debian Administration (dated late 2004) is now invalid?  I added 
> the square brackets and their content.
> 
> "Viruses are a fact of life nowadays, be they real viruses or worms 
> which require manual intervention on the [be]half of a user to [prevent] 
> propogate[propogation]. Unix systems tend to be immune from the viruses 
> themselves, but they still have mail queues full of viral messages."

I would say that it's still relevant. Linux/Unix systems are less apt
to be propagators - for a virus/worm to work it must gain rights that
are in most cases that of privileged users. Still, most viruses/worms
(especially the latter) are propogated by emailing the content to
others, usually automatically. Since most mailers on Linux/unix are not
set up to automatically open *and run* attachments, at least some of
the damage is minimized.

I still get a few viruses and worms every so often - the "Microsoft
Update Patch" is one that's been circulating for years - and it's about
200K. Ouch. 

If you're on a network, especially if you have a Linux/unix system that
does services for Windows machines connected to it, one really should
have antivirus toolkits on the Linux machine(s).

> had to do was compress the worm infested file and then delete the file.  
> If I remember right I had my own approach which was to move the infested 

Wouldn't it be easier to have the antivirus software deliver the file
to /dev/null?

> Thanks, Ted

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Re: [Multi] Wireless Network Configuration

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On Mon, Apr 09, 2007 at 09:53:51PM -0500, Alejandro Barcena Campos wrote:
> Michael Pobega wrote:
> > In my effort to try to move away from programs like
> > network-manager-gnome I've set up my wireless network to start with the
> > Debian at boot time. 
> > 
> > The problem is that I'm frequently roaming (Family matters and personal
> > matters), and although I could just put multiple profiles in
> > /etc/network/interfaces and comment each one out in a per-area basis, I
> > would find it easier to have a program to manage my wireless network
> > choosing (Scanning for networks and choosing one based on a database of
> > "known" hosts, or something similar)
> 
> I used to have the same problem, so I made a very little script for
> that, you  can see it here[1], even do it is in spanish, I think you can
> figure it out by just seeing the code.
> 
> [1]
> http://alejandro.barcena.com.mx/index.php/blog/show/Conectndome_a_diferentes_access_points.html

Looks very interesting. I do have a question though; I am not good at
bash (yet) and nor do I speak Spanish, would it be possible to throw
together a quick translation of the bash script? I understand the
/etc/network/interfaces bit, but the bash script is kind of confusing to
me.

And can you explain how to use it?

I'm sorry, I'm kind of a bash newb :)

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Netgear WPN311 Madwifi WPA2 Configuration Help

2007-04-09 Thread Grok Mogger


Hey,

I cannot get my wifi working at all.  I have a Netgear 
WPN311.  This is my first wifi experience on Linux, and between 
Madwifi, wpa_supplicant, network-manager, network-manager-gnome, 
wlanconfig, iwconfig, iwlist, /etc/network/interfaces/, 
/etc/default/wpa_supplicant, and god-knows-what else that I 
probably left out, I have no clue what I'm doing.


My network is using WPA2, and is not broadcasting its SSID. 
But for starters, I'd like to try getting the card to just 
pickup the unencrypted, broadcasting wireless networks in my 
area.  I know there are some nearby thanks to my Windows machines.


Can anyone help me get started?  I'm using the desktop 
install of Ubuntu 6.10 Edgy Eft.  I actually installed the 
Netgear card after I installed Ubuntu, if that might matter. 
This is a new system, so if a fresh install of a different 
distribution would make things easier, I'm all for it.  I'd 
really appreciate it if someone could just help me understand 
how to set this up as painlessly as possible.


Thanks,
- GM


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Re: Using Etch to resize NTFS partitions??

2007-04-09 Thread Randy Patterson

On Monday 09 April 2007 21:36, Alejandro Barcena Campos wrote:
> Randy Patterson wrote:
> > Can the new Debian installer be used to
> > resize the existing Windows partition?
>
> Yes, it takes a while though
>

I know that there is never any guarantees but is the process considered pretty 
reliable? Will it generally get the partition resized without rendering 
Windoze unbootable? [Home PC that my wife uses for email!! :-)]

Thanks,
Randy

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Re: [debian-user] The List Standard

2007-04-09 Thread David E. Fox

On Mon, 09 Apr 2007 20:01:37 -0600
Ted Hilts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> First:  as I understand your guideline I am not to use the reply key but 
> simply address my reply back to the list and it will be automatically added 
> to the descending list. But have you not in your own email broken the chain 
> of information because all I get when I read your email is to see your one 
> extraction and I don't know 

Ted - please wrap your lines at < 72 characters. It'll make your posts
easier to read and reply to.

Most (sane) mailers track by something called Reference Threading - so
that a subject with the added text [debian-user] will still be able to
be seen as part of the thread.

Normally, one should just reply-to list, and it's considered bad form
to mail the poster directly, unless asked to do so.

> Second: Also, when one person removes content they think is irrelevant but 
> the original author might think otherwise then how does one find that 
> original information? 

By using the reference threads, or maybe archives if the original post
is long gone. That's usually not going to be the case, unless the old
post is (ahem) old.

All the replies should be visible as one thread that you and others can
navigate through in order to form the big picture.

> 
> Third: Altering the original content or injecting statements adds more 
> confusion than it saves especially if a lot of people are in disagreement 
> with one another.

Shouldn't happen much. For threads where there is a lot of disagreement
(see the subjects "sponge burning" for instance) people haven't been
altering the original content. That would be disastrous, and really
open one up for a flame fest ;(.

> Thanks -- Ted

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Re: [Multi] Wireless Network Configuration

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On Tue, Apr 10, 2007 at 11:00:28AM +, Mihira Fernando wrote:
> Michael Pobega wrote:
> > In my effort to try to move away from programs like
> > network-manager-gnome I've set up my wireless network to start with the
> > Debian at boot time. 
> > 
> > The problem is that I'm frequently roaming (Family matters and personal
> > matters), and although I could just put multiple profiles in
> > /etc/network/interfaces and comment each one out in a per-area basis, I
> > would find it easier to have a program to manage my wireless network
> > choosing (Scanning for networks and choosing one based on a database of
> > "known" hosts, or something similar)
> 
> I'm using wifi-radar for this. Works perfectly for me.
> 

Does it work outside of X.Org though? I know WiFi-Radar has a daemon
mode, but it never seemed to work for me (Maybe I was using it wrong).

Any idea where I can find relevant documentation on getting WiFi-Radar's
daemon?

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New package for ktorrent

2007-04-09 Thread J. Pablo Fernández

Hello,
I've just finished upgrading the ktorrent package to the latest mainstream 
version, 2.1.3. I am running it and it seems ok.
Is there some way in which I can *contribute* this package back to Debian?
Thanks.
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Re: [Multi] Wireless Network Configuration

2007-04-09 Thread Mihira Fernando

Michael Pobega wrote:
> In my effort to try to move away from programs like
> network-manager-gnome I've set up my wireless network to start with the
> Debian at boot time. 
> 
> The problem is that I'm frequently roaming (Family matters and personal
> matters), and although I could just put multiple profiles in
> /etc/network/interfaces and comment each one out in a per-area basis, I
> would find it easier to have a program to manage my wireless network
> choosing (Scanning for networks and choosing one based on a database of
> "known" hosts, or something similar)

I'm using wifi-radar for this. Works perfectly for me.



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Re: [debian-user] The List Standard

On Mon, Apr 09, 2007 at 08:01:37PM -0600, Ted Hilts wrote:
> http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/du-guidelines.html
> 
> This helps a lot but I have a few issues with a couple of the statements. 
> 
> First:  as I understand your guideline I am not to use the reply key but 
> simply address my reply back to the list and it will be automatically added 
> to the descending list. But have you not in your own email broken the chain 
> of information because all I get when I read your email is to see your one 
> extraction and I don't know from that who said what or even the initial 
> subject content. 

It up to each responder to snip bits that aren't relavent to their
reply.  


> Not every one has threads. In a thread before yours this 
> statement was made:
>
> AFAIK Thunderbird can thread even if the subject is changed. (It uses
> the 'In-Reply-To:' header)"

> This person seems to imply that normally the subject is the key to 
> establishing the descending threads.  And if Thunderbird for example 
> utilizes the REPLY TO header then that is at odds with what you seem to be 
> saying in this guideline.  So I am confused on this matter.
> 

I don't understand "not everyone has threads".  Its a standard part of
email.  Therefore any decent mail user agent should show threads.  Try
mutt.

> Also my original subject had [debian-user] as the prefix yet Thunderbird 
> accepted Re: The list Standard.
> 
> Second: Also, when one person removes content they think is irrelevant but 
> the original author might think otherwise then how does one find that 
> original information? 

If need be, with the archives.  If you're really wanting to follow a
thread, don't delete it out of your own mailbox or save it to its own
mailbox.

> Third: Altering the original content or injecting statements adds more 
> confusion than it saves especially if a lot of people are in disagreement 
> with one another.

Nevertheless, it is how it is done on this list.

Doug.


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Re: DPMS stops working (ATI, openGl issue?)

2007-04-09 Thread Erik Steffl


Sven Arvidsson wrote:

On Mon, 2007-04-09 at 01:28 -0700, Erik Steffl wrote:
   When I start X DPMS is working (monitor is turned off), however after 
some time it stops working (i.e. monitor is always on).

[...]

   fglrx-driver 8.31.5-1 (proprietary driver)


The first thing I would try to eliminate would be the proprietary
drivers. Try without them, and see if things improve.


  but free drivers have no openGL so that's not going to help me, as 
far as I know they are not similar at all so if I figure out that free 
drivers work it won't shed any more light on proprietary drivers.


  I checked http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/R300 for the status of free 
driver, seems like the work is progressing but it's not ready yet (as 
far as I can tell).


  any other ideas? did anybody else notice that openGL (or somnething) 
disables DPMS?


erik


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Off Topic - Open source flash support not looking too hopeless?

2007-04-09 Thread Ananda Samaddar

Hi Everyone,

After one of my usual bored web browsing sessions I came across these items:

http://www.mozilla.org/projects/tamarin/
http://applications.linux.com/comments.pl?sid=38263&cid=97469

Adobe have opened the source code to their Action Script virtual machine (the 
Tamarin project) and the main developer of swfdec states in the second link (if 
it's him) that Flash 8 Video support would be easy to add to swfdec.  What does 
everyone else think of this?  I personally find it shocking that a proprietary 
software product has become a de facto web standard.  Surely a FLOSS Flash 
player would go some way to remedying such a reliance on a proprietary product? 
 Am I clutching at straws?  We already have Gnash and swfdec but they are as of 
yet not fully Flash 9 compatible.  Will the Tamarin project be of any use to 
them?

regards,

Ananda Samaddar


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Re: [Multi] Wireless Network Configuration

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Michael Pobega wrote:
> In my effort to try to move away from programs like
> network-manager-gnome I've set up my wireless network to start with the
> Debian at boot time. 
> 
> The problem is that I'm frequently roaming (Family matters and personal
> matters), and although I could just put multiple profiles in
> /etc/network/interfaces and comment each one out in a per-area basis, I
> would find it easier to have a program to manage my wireless network
> choosing (Scanning for networks and choosing one based on a database of
> "known" hosts, or something similar)

I used to have the same problem, so I made a very little script for
that, you  can see it here[1], even do it is in spanish, I think you can
figure it out by just seeing the code.

[1]
http://alejandro.barcena.com.mx/index.php/blog/show/Conectndome_a_diferentes_access_points.html

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Re: apt-mirror trouble when using local repo

2007-04-09 Thread David E. Fox

On Tue, 20 Mar 2007 14:59:15 +0200
"Tshepang Lekhonkhobe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I got Debian DVD Etch src iso files which I'd like loop-mount and use
> as my repo sources for apt-mirror to use. This is so that I don't have

EMFBI, but wouldn't it be easier to use apt-cdrom to add the dvd as a 
source for later installs rather than an apt-mirror solution & a
loopback mount? Seems to be more work than needed. OTOH when I had a
cd-less system and Mandrake, I had all available ISOs loopback mounted
for exactly that purpose - although each ISO was still listed as a cdrom
source, rather than a mirror source per se.

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Re: Using Etch to resize NTFS partitions??

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Randy Patterson wrote:
> Can the new Debian installer be used to 
> resize the existing Windows partition?
> 
Yes, it takes a while though

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[Multi] Wireless Network Configuration

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In my effort to try to move away from programs like
network-manager-gnome I've set up my wireless network to start with the
Debian at boot time. 

The problem is that I'm frequently roaming (Family matters and personal
matters), and although I could just put multiple profiles in
/etc/network/interfaces and comment each one out in a per-area basis, I
would find it easier to have a program to manage my wireless network
choosing (Scanning for networks and choosing one based on a database of
"known" hosts, or something similar)

I'm also wondering if I could get ifplugd to play into this, or maybe
something like it. I would really like to have my computer automatically
check to see if there is an ethernet connection, and if there is use
that and not bother setting up my wireless networking.

Thanks ahead of time. 

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Re: checking if my system is compromised

2007-04-09 Thread Dave Thayer

On Sat, Apr 07, 2007 at 06:41:22PM -0700, Kamaraju Kusumanchi wrote:

> Turns out that I was dictionary attacked (thanks to
> /var/log/auth.log) via ssh port. The intruder was able to gain access
> to the guest account. 

The fail2ban package can be helpful in fighting dictionary attacks. 

dt

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Re: SSH port 22 is invisible from the internet!! :(

2007-04-09 Thread Dusty Wilson


On 4/9/07, gianca <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

You said you can "ssh localhost", didn't you?
"nmap localhost" should show port 22 is open.

And can you "ssh 85.222.164.13"?

Have any other pc in you private lan to try to ssh to yours?

gc :-)


Sorry if I missed it, but has anyone mentioned netstat?

sudo netstat -lnp | grep ssh

That should show if you have any running ssh processes listening on
your server and which IP addresses/port numbers it is listening on.
If you haven't already done such a thing, could you let us know the
output of that command?

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Using Etch to resize NTFS partitions??

2007-04-09 Thread Randy Patterson

I am wanting to install Etch on a home PC with one NTFS partition. I have read 
alot about using Partition Magic and parted but was wondering now with the 
latest installer if that was needed. Can the new Debian installer be used to 
resize the existing Windows partition?

If not, then is creating a boot disk with parted on it the best way to do 
this?

Thanks,
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Re: Sam Hocevar, is this true?

2007-04-09 Thread Ed G

On Mon, 09 Apr 2007 14:21:09 -0400, Matthew Blanc wrote:

> Hello, I had recently saw this site on a forum I go to:
> (elided) , and was wondering if anyone know the veracity of
> these allegations against our new project lead?

I'm going to take the following position:  Even if he did, so what?  You 
seem to be trolling right now and we don't think any less of you.

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[debian-user] The List Standard

2007-04-09 Thread Ted Hilts

Kamaraju S Kusumanchi

http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/du-guidelines.html

This helps a lot but I have a few issues with a couple of the statements.

First: as I understand your guideline I am not to use the reply key but simply
address my reply back to the list and it will be automatically added to the
descending list. But have you not in your own email broken the chain of
information because all I get when I read your email is to see your one
extraction and I don't know from that who said what or even the initial subject
content. Not every one has threads. In a thread before yours this statement was
made:
'
AFAIK Thunderbird can thread even if the subject is changed. (It uses
the 'In-Reply-To:' header)"
This person seems to imply that normally the subject is the key to establishing
the descending threads. And if Thunderbird for example utilizes the REPLY TO
header then that is at odds with what you seem to be saying in this guideline.
So I am confused on this matter.

Also my original subject had [debian-user] as the prefix yet Thunderbird
accepted Re: The list Standard.

Second: Also, when one person removes content they think is irrelevant but the original author might think otherwise then how does one find that original information?

Third: Altering the original content or injecting statements adds more
confusion than it saves especially if a lot of people are in disagreement with
one another.

Anyway, I have in this email not used the REPLY TO key and addressed my response to you using the original subject in order to see what actually happens.

Note that I have 3 objections I want to discuss in more detail if that is okay
with you.

Thanks -- Ted

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Re: ssh setup: what is the Debian way? [not what I asked for, but OK ]

2007-04-09 Thread Vincent Lefevre

On 2007-04-09 09:39:20 -0600, Paul E Condon wrote:
> Is ssh_wrapper available in Debian?

No, this is a script I've written.

> What does it do?

It does the ssh-add. Well, a little more:

#!/usr/bin/env zsh

# You may call "ssh_wrapper true" to initialize.

emulate -LR zsh
local cmd

if [[ "$1" == -exec ]] then
  cmd=exec
  shift
else
  cmd=command
fi

cmd=($cmd $1)
shift

autoload -U _call_sshadd
_call_sshadd "$@"

if [[ -z $SSH_CONFIG ]] then
  export SSH_CONFIG=$HOME/.ssh/config
  [[ -e ${SSH_CONFIG}-old && `command ssh -V 2>&1` == OpenSSH_3.* ]] &&
SSH_CONFIG=${SSH_CONFIG}-old
fi

$cmd -F $SSH_CONFIG "$@"

where _call_sshadd is a zsh function I've written to call the ssh-add
when need be. I also use ssh_wrapper in scripts, e.g. I have a xrsh
script that does:

exec ${XTERMINAL:-xterm} -e ssh_wrapper -exec ssh "$@"

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Re: ssh setup: what is the Debian way? [not what I asked for, but OK ]

2007-04-09 Thread Vincent Lefevre

On 2007-04-09 09:07:29 -0400, Allan Wind wrote:
> On 2007-04-09T13:07:34+0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> > This is a bad idea. SSH can also be used in non-interactive sessions
> > (e.g. by Subversion, rsync, unison and so on). Such a check must not
> > be done if you want your wrapper to work with these programs (but of
> > course, you need to set $SVN_SSH and so on to a shell script that
> > calls ssh).
> 
> Who is going to type in your password requested by ssh-add in your
> non-interactive shell?

The user (I've never had any problem with that).

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Re: checking if my system is compromised

On Mon, Apr 09, 2007 at 09:31:41PM -0400, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote:
> John L Fjellstad wrote:
> > 
> > I usually enable the recent module in iptables, which means that you can
> > only login once every 1 minute or so.  It usually give the attacker only
> > one try before they get shut down.
 
> Thanks for tip on iptables. iptables look a bit heavy for me (lot of reading
> to do). So currently I am using /etc/hosts.allow, /etc/hosts.deny for
> controlling the IPs which can ssh into this machine. If I find them
> inadequate, I will use iptables.

Have you tried shorewall?  Its a very powerful firewall generator with
excellent docs.

Doug.


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Re: checking if my system is compromised

John L Fjellstad wrote:
> 
> I usually enable the recent module in iptables, which means that you can
> only login once every 1 minute or so.  It usually give the attacker only
> one try before they get shut down.
> 
> Example:
> # allow established and related connection
> /sbin/iptables -A INPUT -m state --state RELATED,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT
> 
> # if a NEW or INVALID package comes in, and it is in our list within the
> # last 60 seconds, drop the package
> /sbin/iptables -A INPUT -m state --state NEW,INVALID -m recent --update
> --seconds 60 -j DROP
> 
> # allow new connections to ssh port, add the ip address to our recent
> #  list
> /sbin/iptables -A INPUT -p ssh --dport ssh -m state --state NEW,INVALID
> -m recent --set -j ACCEPT
> 
[msg snipped]
> Also, in /etc/hosts.deny, set
> ALL: PARANOID
> 

Thanks for tip on iptables. iptables look a bit heavy for me (lot of reading
to do). So currently I am using /etc/hosts.allow, /etc/hosts.deny for
controlling the IPs which can ssh into this machine. If I find them
inadequate, I will use iptables.

raju

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Re: Problems upgrading testing after the release of Etch

2007-04-09 Thread Adriano Vilela Barbosa

You're right. Pointing my sources.list to http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ 
instead of http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ solved the problem :-)

Thanks a lot.

Adriano


> 
> The contents of my file /etc/apt/sources.list is:
> 
> deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free
> deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free

http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/lenny/Release is currently a 404 for
some reason, which prevents apt from validating the Packages files.
Suggest you use a different mirror for now.

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Re: The List Standard

> I am beginning to wonder
> what the list standard is on this matter -- or should be.
> 

Does this help?

http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/du-guidelines.html

raju

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Re: permission of shadow file and upgrade the kernel

On Mon, 2007-04-09 at 17:37 -0700, Bob McGowan wrote:
[snip]
> One might wonder why it isn't just 600, if the only user needing access 
> is root?  The answer may be in the permissions and owner/group:
> 
>-rw-r- 1 root shadow 
> 
> It would appear there are (or could potentially be) tools that need to 
> only read the file.  Rather than make them set uid to root, which would 
> give them rw permission, they are set gid so they have ro permission, 
> which limits the damage they could potentially do.

You are correct. Things like authentication for various services are
just one of many.
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Re: permission of shadow file and upgrade the kernel

2007-04-09 Thread Bob McGowan


Douglas Allan Tutty wrote:

On Mon, Apr 09, 2007 at 12:47:23PM -0700, ann kok wrote:

Hi all

why the permission of the shadow file in debian is
640?


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1.  What do you think the permissions of shadow should be?  The only
user who needs to read /etc/shadow is root, that is the whole point of
having shadow passwords.


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One might wonder why it isn't just 600, if the only user needing access 
is root?  The answer may be in the permissions and owner/group:


  -rw-r- 1 root shadow 

It would appear there are (or could potentially be) tools that need to 
only read the file.  Rather than make them set uid to root, which would 
give them rw permission, they are set gid so they have ro permission, 
which limits the damage they could potentially do.


Bob


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Re: Does Debian 4.0 support WindowsXP partition

Björn Johansson wrote:

> 
> Hello!
> 
> Soon I'm going to install Debian 4.0 on my brothers computer
> and I want to know if Debian supports WindowsXP partitions
> so I don't get problems with the LILO bootloader. Do any
> know if it works?

Unless you have a good reason, you should go with Grub instead of Lilo. Grub
is newer and much better compared to Lilo. Although for your case, both
should do the job without any problems.

hth
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Re: Aptitude Segmentation Fault

Masatran, R. Deepak wrote:

> An computer that I ran Debian Etch on had some faulty hardware. So, I
> moved the hard disk to a new computer. Now, Debian works, except that
> Aptitude gives a segmentation fault when I try to run it. How can I fix
> this?
> 

Upgrade aptitude to the latest version on Etch. If the problem persists and
is reproducible, please file a bug against aptitude. In your bug report,
please copy paste the errors. Just saying "segmentation fault" is not
enough information. BTW, you can use reportbug package to file bugs.

hth
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Re: Help compiling source package (autoconf) - AM_SANITY_CHECK not found

Micha Feigin wrote:

> I am trying to compile ImageMagick from source (trying to cross compile it
> actually with mingw, but I have the same problem with native compilation).
> Configure runs file, but that when I try to do make I get the error:
> 

Before compiling any source packages from Debian repository, it is a good
idea to install all the necessary dependencies for building that package.
This can be done via

sudo apt-get build-dep imagemagick

In general the command would be

sudo apt-get build-dep packagename

More info can be found in the man page of apt-get. Did you do this?

BTW, Debian currently does not yet have 6.3.3 . So in all possibility, you
might be hitting a bug in the upstream source code.

raju

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Re: Problems upgrading libc6

2007-04-09 Thread Andrew J. Barr


Luis Hidalgo wrote:

Hi,

I think I have a serious problem. I tried to upgrade my packages using 
apt-get upgrade but instead of being successful

the following message appeared:


dpkg: error processing 
/var/cache/apt/archives/libc6_2.3.2.ds1-22sarge6_amd64.deb (--unpack):

 trying to overwrite `/usr/lib64', which is also in package nspluginwrapper
Errors were encountered while processing:
 /var/cache/apt/archives/libc6_2.3.2.ds1-22sarge6_amd64.deb
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)


I would temporarily remove nspluginwrapper and upgrade your libc6. Then 
check if there is a new version of nspluginwrapper available, and if 
not, or you still have this problem after upgrading that package, file a 
bug.


HTH,
Andrew


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Re: Sources list for upgrade from sarge to etch?

On Mon, Apr 09, 2007 at 03:45:29PM -0500, Michael Kerwin wrote:
> I am trying to upgrade a computer from sarge to etch and I am reading the
> release notes about it and it says to use aptitude to update and etc.
>  
> My question is what should I change my sources.list in /etc/apt to? Because
> it says in the release notes to make sure it points to sarge when doing the
> update. Since etch is now the stable I have tried changing the sources list
> to oldstable  and even tried sarge and it couldn't connect with the changes.
> I saw and email or something the sarge was changing to oldstable. 
>  
> I only have 3 line in my sources list.
>  
> Deb ftp://ftp.usdebian.org/debian/ oldstable main contrib. non-free
> Deb-src ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ oldstable main contrib. non-free
> Deb http://security.debian.org/ oldstable/updates main contrib. non-free

Basically, the release notes want to make sure that you have a clean
install of Sarge before you attempt the upgrade.

Since during the upgrade you won't be compiling from source, you can
comment out the Deb-src line.

The sources list should point to a named release.  The following should
do it, and I removed the '.' after 'contrib':

Deb ftp://ftp.usdebian.org/debian/ sarge main contrib non-free
Deb http://security.debian.org/ sarge/updates main contrib non-free

Remember to do everything from aptitude.  If you want to keep a script
copy, do it from the command line.  If not, do it interactivly.
Actually, until you're ready to do the upgrade itself, I would use
aptitude interactivly (curses interface) so I can see exactly what it
wants to do.

Follow along the release notes step by step, omitting nothing.  Word to
the wise as noted in section 4.1.3 and 4.1.4; be prepared for the system
not to boot.  Be able to boot by an alternate means: installer CD rescue
mode, grub-disk; from other than a remote login.

When, and only when, the release notes tell you to change the sources
list to etch, you would change 'sarge' to etch.

Good luck.

Doug.

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Problems upgrading libc6

2007-04-09 Thread Luis Hidalgo


Hi,

I think I have a serious problem. I tried to upgrade my packages using
apt-get upgrade but instead of being successful
the following message appeared:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo apt-get -f install
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
Correcting dependencies... Done
The following extra packages will be installed:
 libc6
Suggested packages:
 glibc-doc
The following packages will be upgraded:
 libc6
1 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 16 not upgraded.
2 not fully installed or removed.
Need to get 0B/4328kB of archives.
After unpacking 0B of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y
(Reading database ... 133379 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to replace libc6 2.3.2.ds1-22sarge5 (using
.../libc6_2.3.2.ds1-22sarge6_amd64.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement libc6 ...
dpkg: error processing
/var/cache/apt/archives/libc6_2.3.2.ds1-22sarge6_amd64.deb (--unpack):
trying to overwrite `/usr/lib64', which is also in package nspluginwrapper
Errors were encountered while processing:
/var/cache/apt/archives/libc6_2.3.2.ds1-22sarge6_amd64.deb
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)

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Re: sarge to etch upgrade failed with unmet dependencies

2007-04-09 Thread Tom Brown

On Monday 09 April 2007 14:51, Sven Arvidsson wrote:
> On Mon, 2007-04-09 at 14:25 -0700, Tom Brown wrote:
> > I tried to uprade a dev server to etch today. The upgrade erred out on
> > mysql upgrades. I'm told I might want to run 'apt-get -f install'. I've
> > played with the force option before with bad results. Why are the libs
> > that mysql depends on not upgraded first? Would it be a better idea to
> > uninstall mysql, do the upgrade, then install the latest mysql? Any
> > suggestions would be appreciated.
>
> Don't you need to upgrade libc6 first, as described in the release
> notes?

I looked over the release notes. Thanks for pointing me there. The release 
notes said to do a 'dpkg --audit' on all installed packages. Here's what I 
found out:

$ dpkg --audit
The following packages are in a mess due to serious problems during
installation.  They must be reinstalled for them (and any packages
that depend on them) to function properly:
 mysql-server-5.0 mysql database server binaries

The following packages have been unpacked but not yet configured.
They must be configured using dpkg --configure or the configure
menu option in dselect for them to work:
 libmysqlclient15off  mysql database client library
 libmysqlclient15-dev mysql database development files
 mysql-client-5.0 mysql database client binaries

So, it turns out I have a damaged install of mysql-server. I tried to force a 
purge, but that failed. Well, it is a dev server so, a clean install of etch 
may be in order. Is there way to manually remove the package. I can manually 
remove the files, but what about the package db? Is it possible to do a 
manual uninstall from the db? If it is possible, is it worth the effort/risk?

Thanks,
Tom

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Re: Problems upgrading testing after the release of Etch

2007-04-09 Thread Joey Hess

Adriano Vilela Barbosa wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Since yesterday, when trying to upgrade my Debian box with either apt-get 
> upgrade or apt-get dist-upgrade, I get an error message saying
> 
> WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!
> 
> I'm using Debian testing and I'm pretty sure this has to do with the release 
> of Etch yesterday. As far as I understand, this happens because I don't have 
> the public key used to sign the packages in testing. I reinstalled the 
> package debian-archive-keyring and ran apt-get update, but the error 
> persists. Is anybody else having this problem? Does anybody know how to fix 
> it? I know I can proceed with the upgrade without authentication, but I 
> wouldn't like to do that...
> 
> The contents of my file /etc/apt/sources.list is:
> 
> deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free
> deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free

http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/lenny/Release is currently a 404 for
some reason, which prevents apt from validating the Packages files.
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Re: Problems upgrading testing after the release of Etch

Adriano Vilela Barbosa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> pub   1024D/ADB11277 2006-09-17
> uid  Etch Stable Release Key
   ^^^

I guess the key for Lenny has not been published yet.

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Re: permission of shadow file and upgrade the kernel

On Mon, Apr 09, 2007 at 12:47:23PM -0700, ann kok wrote:
> Hi all
> 
> why the permission of the shadow file in debian is
> 640?
> and 
> how can I upgrade the kernel?
> eg: 686 kernel

1.  What do you think the permissions of shadow should be?  The only
user who needs to read /etc/shadow is root, that is the whole point of
having shadow passwords.

2.  Assuming you're running etch, just install the linux-image meta
package for your arch, it will always depend on the most recent version.

Doug.

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Re: Sources list for upgrade from sarge to etch?

"Michael Kerwin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I am trying to upgrade a computer from sarge to etch and I am reading
> the release notes about it and it says to use aptitude to update and
> etc. 
> My question is what should I change my sources.list in /etc/apt to?
> Because it says in the release notes to make sure it points to sarge
> when doing the update. 

Do you mean Appendix A?

"This appendix contains information on how to make sure you can install
or upgrade sarge packages before you upgrade to etch. This should only
be necessary in specific situations."

What you need is this:

http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html#s-upgrade-process

But you should read everything again carefully.

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Re: etch upgrade problem

2007-04-09 Thread Matt Richardson

On 4/9/07, Seth Goodman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Matt Richardson wrote on Monday, April 09, 2007 4:39 PM -0500:

> I had the same problem when I upgraded sarge to etch some time ago.
> The solution was to add psmouse to /etc/modules.  Check out lsmod and
> see if it's listed already, but I'd guess not.

cray4:~# lsmod
Module  Size  Used by
<...>
psmouse20360  0
<...>

cray4:~# cat /etc/modules
<...>
ide-cd
ide-disk
ide-generic
psmouse

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Ok, so that wasn't it.  Here's my mouse section from xorg.conf.

Section "InputDevice"
   Identifier  "Configured Mouse"
   Driver  "mouse"
   Option  "CorePointer"
   Option  "Device""/dev/input/mice"
   Option  "Protocol"  "ImPS/2"
   Option  "Emulate3Buttons"   "true"
EndSection

I remember having a problem with dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg when
trying to figure out the issue.  Something along the lines of an error
saying that dpkg wouldn't over-write the existing xorg.conf because it
had been manually modified.  I think that behavior changed at some
point, but I couldn't tell you when.

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Re: [debian-user] The List Standard

Ted Hilts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> My browser for mail is Thunderbird and Seamonkey I use for browsing.
> 
> Thunderbird runs with threads beginning with the first issue ins the 
> subject line and then all successive emails related are tied together
> in a descending fashion.  I take this to mean that one can first see
> the first issue and follow downwards at other inputs as long as the
> subject remains the same. However, most businesses do just the

AFAIK Thunderbird can thread even if the subject is changed. (It uses
the 'In-Reply-To:' header)

> opposite either leaving off the original or piling their reply in an
> ascending fashion. This creates a problem for me because my mail

Bleah!

> client wants me to put the next message at the bottom and positions
> the cursor to this will happen.  Also, there are no upward threading
> that I know of. But a lot of people expect a reply at the top.  What

You could try to use threading and sorting by descending date.

> I have begun to do is tell them to go to the bottom to get at my
> reply so they can first see what they have previously said which they
> often forget or get it wrong. However, I also notice that many people
> in the list snip out stuff so that when the next person responds it
> is possible they do not have the same context and the same
> information and so go off in a different direction.

The netiquette is to snip *irrelevant* stuff. But this is pretty
subjective.
 
> Have I got it all wrong or are there conventions we should all be 
> observing.  I usually respond to a part of the original not by
> embedding remarks into the original email (as some do) but by copying
> the part down to the bottom quoted and followed by my email
> suggestion that way the original and all following emails that
> preceded mine are preserved. I have observed conflicts over this

I'm not exactly sure what you mean by that, but maybe you should read
this:

http://learn.to/quote (go to "This Text in English)

and more general

http://www.dtcc.edu/cs/rfc1855.html

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Re: (root) AUTH (crontab command not allowed)

2007-04-09 Thread Franck Joncourt

On Tue, Apr 10, 2007 at 12:29:07AM +0200, Kay Smarczewski wrote:
> Hello,

Hi,

> I get always the error message
> > (root) AUTH (crontab command not allowed)
> in my logs. I interpret this that root is not allowed to run crontab.
> But my cron.allow contains the root user:
> > cat /etc/cron.allow
> > root
> So root should be allowed to run crontab, shouldn't it?

By default, /etc/cron.allow and /etc/cron.deny do not exist, and it
means all users are able to run a crontab, root as well.

Are you sure you have to add root in /etc/cron.allow ? I believed it was
not compulsory.

> The rights on the files should be ok, I think:
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 root crontab /etc/cron.allow
> > -rwxr-sr-x 1 root crontab /usr/bin/crontab
> > drwx-wx--T 2 root crontab /var/spool/cron/crontabs/
> 
> In my opinion, I get the warning since I have installed checksecurity.
> But tiger seems to work good and weekly. (I installed checksecurity at
> the same time like tiger.)
> 
> I have read the manuals and searched for the problem in the net. But I
> did not found an answer.
> 
> I am using cron version 3.0pl1-100 and Debian/Linux 4.0 AMD64.

Me too, and it works fine. I do not edit /etc/crontab, but prefer adding
files to the cron directories. (/etc/cron.d, /etc/cron.hourly ...)

Hope it helps.

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RE: etch upgrade problem

2007-04-09 Thread Seth Goodman

Andrei Popescu wrote on Monday, April 09, 2007 5:28 PM -0500:

> "Seth Goodman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > packages, /usr/X11R6/bin contains only a lib directory with a few
>  ^
> I guess you mean /usr/X11R6/

Yes, sorry.  /usr/X11R6/bin is a symlink to /usr/bin


> 
> > Section "InputDevice"
> > Identifier  "Configured Mouse"
> > Driver  "mouse"
> > Option  "CorePointer"
> > Option  "Device""/dev/psaux"
> > Option  "Protocol"  "PS/2"
> > Option  "Emulate3Buttons"   "true"
> > EndSection
> 
> I think your problem is in this section, see below.
> 
> > (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/psaux
> > No such device.
> > (EE) Configured Mouse: cannot open input device
> > (EE) PreInit failed for input device "Configured Mouse" (II)
> > UnloadModule: "mouse" (WW) No core pointer registered
> > (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Generic Keyboard" (type:
> > KEYBOARD) xkb_keycodes { include
> > "xfree86+aliases(qwerty)" }; xkb_types{ include
> > "complete" }; xkb_compatibility{ include "complete" };
> > xkb_symbols  { include "pc(pc105)+us" };
> > xkb_geometry { include "pc(pc104)" };
> > No core pointer
> > 
> > Fatal server error:
> > failed to initialize core devices
> ^^^
> X cannot find your mouse. Try another device instead of /dev/psaux. I
> have /dev/input/mice

Same result.

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(root) AUTH (crontab command not allowed)

2007-04-09 Thread Kay Smarczewski

Hello,

I get always the error message
> (root) AUTH (crontab command not allowed)
in my logs. I interpret this that root is not allowed to run crontab.
But my cron.allow contains the root user:
> cat /etc/cron.allow
> root
So root should be allowed to run crontab, shouldn't it?

The rights on the files should be ok, I think:
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root crontab /etc/cron.allow
> -rwxr-sr-x 1 root crontab /usr/bin/crontab
> drwx-wx--T 2 root crontab /var/spool/cron/crontabs/

In my opinion, I get the warning since I have installed checksecurity.
But tiger seems to work good and weekly. (I installed checksecurity at
the same time like tiger.)

I have read the manuals and searched for the problem in the net. But I
did not found an answer.

I am using cron version 3.0pl1-100 and Debian/Linux 4.0 AMD64.

What can I do to solve the problem?

Best regards

Kay


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"Seth Goodman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> packages, /usr/X11R6/bin contains only a lib directory with a few
 ^
I guess you mean /usr/X11R6/  

> Section "InputDevice"
> Identifier  "Configured Mouse"
> Driver  "mouse"
> Option  "CorePointer"
> Option  "Device""/dev/psaux"
> Option  "Protocol"  "PS/2"
> Option  "Emulate3Buttons"   "true"
> EndSection

I think your problem is in this section, see below.

> (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/psaux
> No such device.
> (EE) Configured Mouse: cannot open input device
> (EE) PreInit failed for input device "Configured Mouse"
> (II) UnloadModule: "mouse"
> (WW) No core pointer registered
> (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Generic Keyboard" (type:
> KEYBOARD)
> xkb_keycodes { include "xfree86+aliases(qwerty)" };
> xkb_types{ include "complete" };
> xkb_compatibility{ include "complete" };
> xkb_symbols  { include "pc(pc105)+us" };
> xkb_geometry { include "pc(pc104)" };
> No core pointer
> 
> Fatal server error:
> failed to initialize core devices
^^^
X cannot find your mouse. Try another device instead of /dev/psaux. I
have /dev/input/mice

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RE: etch upgrade problem

2007-04-09 Thread Seth Goodman

Matt Richardson wrote on Monday, April 09, 2007 4:39 PM -0500:

> I had the same problem when I upgraded sarge to etch some time ago.
> The solution was to add psmouse to /etc/modules.  Check out lsmod and
> see if it's listed already, but I'd guess not.

cray4:~# lsmod
Module  Size  Used by
<...>
psmouse20360  0
<...>


cray4:~# cat /etc/modules
<...>
ide-cd
ide-disk
ide-generic
psmouse


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Problems upgrading testing after the release of Etch

2007-04-09 Thread Adriano Vilela Barbosa

Hi,

Since yesterday, when trying to upgrade my Debian box with either apt-get 
upgrade or apt-get dist-upgrade, I get an error message saying

WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!

I'm using Debian testing and I'm pretty sure this has to do with the release of 
Etch yesterday. As far as I understand, this happens because I don't have the 
public key used to sign the packages in testing. I reinstalled the package 
debian-archive-keyring and ran apt-get update, but the error persists. Is 
anybody else having this problem? Does anybody know how to fix it? I know I can 
proceed with the upgrade without authentication, but I wouldn't like to do 
that...

The contents of my file /etc/apt/sources.list is:

deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free
deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free

The output of apt-key list is:

/etc/apt/trusted.gpg

pub   1024D/2D230C5F 2006-01-03 [expired: 2007-02-07]
uid  Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (2006) <[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]>

pub   1024D/6070D3A1 2006-11-20 [expires: 2009-07-01]
uid  Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (4.0/etch) <[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]>

pub   1024D/ADB11277 2006-09-17
uid  Etch Stable Release Key 


Any help is much appreciated.

Thanks in advance,

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grub ide=nodma not working

2007-04-09 Thread geoff



I'm also seeing the same issue with the Debian 4.0 Release (Etch).  I have a 
custom Celeron based SBC with an IDE CF slot as the primary drive.  The board 
itself does not support DMA, so I've been using the 'ide=nodma' boot parameter 
with RedHat 9.0 and Debian Sarge.  On these older distributions, the nodma 
parameter works fine for both DMA and non-DMA enabled CF cards.

The only thing I'm doing different with my Etch based card is that I'm using a 
kernel wit in initrd enabled.   I'll try without to see if that helps.


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Re: debian-user-digest Digest V2007 #1099

2007-04-09 Thread Matt Richardson


On 4/9/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

debian-user-digest Digest   Volume 2007 : Issue 1099

Today's Topics:
  RE: etch upgrade problem  [ "Seth Goodman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]

Well, a bit premature on solved status.  The upgrade from Sarge to Etch
did complete after killing the screensaver process, but it did not leave
the system in a good state.  Minor problems include Postgre failing on
boot, as well as a mini-DNS server that I don't believe was in Sarge
failing to start, but the main problem is that X is inoperable.






Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Configured Mouse"
Driver  "mouse"
Option  "CorePointer"
Option  "Device""/dev/psaux"
Option  "Protocol"  "PS/2"
Option  "Emulate3Buttons"   "true"
EndSection






(**) Configured Mouse: Device: "/dev/psaux"
(**) Configured Mouse: Protocol: "PS/2"
(**) Option "CorePointer"
(**) Configured Mouse: Core Pointer
(**) Option "Device" "/dev/psaux"
(EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/psaux
No such device.
(EE) Configured Mouse: cannot open input device
(EE) PreInit failed for input device "Configured Mouse"
(II) UnloadModule: "mouse"
(WW) No core pointer registered
(II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Generic Keyboard" (type:
KEYBOARD)
xkb_keycodes { include "xfree86+aliases(qwerty)" };
xkb_types{ include "complete" };
xkb_compatibility{ include "complete" };
xkb_symbols  { include "pc(pc105)+us" };
xkb_geometry { include "pc(pc104)" };
No core pointer

Fatal server error:
failed to initialize core devices



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I had the same problem when I upgraded sarge to etch some time ago.
The solution was to add psmouse to /etc/modules.  Check out lsmod and
see if it's listed already, but I'd guess not.

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Re: sarge to etch upgrade failed with unmet dependencies

2007-04-09 Thread Sven Arvidsson

On Mon, 2007-04-09 at 14:25 -0700, Tom Brown wrote:
> I tried to uprade a dev server to etch today. The upgrade erred out on mysql 
> upgrades. I'm told I might want to run 'apt-get -f install'. I've played with 
> the force option before with bad results. Why are the libs that mysql depends 
> on not upgraded first? Would it be a better idea to uninstall mysql, do the 
> upgrade, then install the latest mysql? Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Don't you need to upgrade libc6 first, as described in the release
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Re: Sources list for upgrade from sarge to etch?

2007-04-09 Thread Thilo Six

Michael Kerwin wrote the following on 09.04.2007 22:45:

> I am trying to upgrade a computer from sarge to etch 



afaik
> Deb ftp://ftp.usdebian.org/debian/ oldstable main contrib. non-free
  ^^^ ^^
  | | | `no dot here
  | |  ` there should be a dot
  |  ` should be http
  |
   `should be lower case d

> 
> Deb-src ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ oldstable main contrib. non-free
> 
> Deb http://security.debian.org/ oldstable/updates main contrib. non-free


try this one:
deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ etch main contrib non-free
deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ etch main contrib non-free
deb http://security.debian.org etch/updates main contrib non-free

> Will someone help me?
> 
> Michael Kerwin

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sarge to etch upgrade failed with unmet dependencies

2007-04-09 Thread Tom Brown

Hi,

I tried to uprade a dev server to etch today. The upgrade erred out on mysql 
upgrades. I'm told I might want to run 'apt-get -f install'. I've played with 
the force option before with bad results. Why are the libs that mysql depends 
on not upgraded first? Would it be a better idea to uninstall mysql, do the 
upgrade, then install the latest mysql? Any suggestions would be appreciated.

$ sudo apt-get upgrade
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
You might want to run 'apt-get -f install' to correct these.
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
  libmysqlclient15-dev: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.6-6) but 2.3.2.ds1-22 is 
installed
  libmysqlclient15off: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.6-6) but 2.3.2.ds1-22 is 
installed
  mysql-client-5.0: Depends: libdbd-mysql-perl (>= 1.2202) but it is not 
installed
Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.6-6) but 2.3.2.ds1-22 is installed
Depends: libgcc1 (>= 1:4.1.1-12) but 1:3.4.3-13 is 
installed
Depends: libncurses5 (>= 5.4-5) but 5.4-4 is installed
Depends: libreadline5 (>= 5.2) but 5.0-10 is installed
Depends: libstdc++6 (>= 4.1.1-12) but it is not installed
  mysql-server-5.0: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.6-6) but 2.3.2.ds1-22 is installed
Depends: libgcc1 (>= 1:4.1.1-12) but 1:3.4.3-13 is 
installed
Depends: libncurses5 (>= 5.4-5) but 5.4-4 is installed
Depends: libreadline5 (>= 5.2) but 5.0-10 is installed
Depends: libstdc++6 (>= 4.1.1-12) but it is not installed
Depends: lsb-base (>= 3.0-10) but it is not installed
E: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f.



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zlib1g-udeb

2007-04-09 Thread Hans Gubitz

zlib1g-udeb is missed on debian-40r0-i386-netinst.iso 

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Re: etch upgrade problem

2007-04-09 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater

On Mon, Apr 09, 2007 at 03:46:21PM -0500, Seth Goodman wrote:
> Well, a bit premature on solved status.  The upgrade from Sarge to Etch
> did complete after killing the screensaver process, but it did not leave
> the system in a good state.  Minor problems include Postgre failing on
> boot, as well as a mini-DNS server that I don't believe was in Sarge
> failing to start, but the main problem is that X is inoperable.
> 
This may sound stupid: if you can, purge as much as possible of X 
Windows. Then 

apt-get / aptitude install xorg xserver-xorg discover x-window-system

That should give you a base of the new packages to go on. If it still 
doesn't work, 

dexconf

dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -plow

should help. plow asks _all_ the questions again, not just those at high 
priority.

HTH,

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Re: Sources list for upgrade from sarge to etch?

On Mon, 2007-04-09 at 15:45 -0500, Michael Kerwin wrote:
> I am trying to upgrade a computer from sarge to etch and I am reading
> the release notes about it and it says to use aptitude to update and
> etc.
>
> My question is what should I change my sources.list in /etc/apt to?
> Because it says in the release notes to make sure it points to sarge
> when doing the update. Since etch is now the stable I have tried
> changing the sources list to oldstable  and even tried sarge and it
> couldn’t connect with the changes.  I saw and email or something the
> sarge was changing to oldstable. 
> 
>  
> 
> I only have 3 line in my sources list.
>
> Deb ftp://ftp.usdebian.org/debian/ oldstable main contrib. non-free
> Deb-src ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ oldstable main contrib. non-free
> Deb http://security.debian.org/ oldstable/updates main contrib. non-free

Are you sure it is Sarge? oldstable was woody until Yesterday.

Are you sure you are not trying to upgrade from Woody to Sarge?

Those three line are correct except for 2 errors each line and the
change from oldstable to stable.

> Will someone help me?

Here are the proper lines for for stable (which is now Etch):

deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ stable main contrib non-free
deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ stable main contrib non-free
deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main contrib non-free

The last line is what http://www.debian.org/security/ says to use.

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Re: SSH port 22 is invisible from the internet!! :(

2007-04-09 Thread Jochen Schulz

csanyipal:
> On Mon, Apr 09, 2007 at 08:56:40PM +0200, Jochen Schulz wrote:
> 
>> If you can see either both incoming and outgoing packets or no packets
>> at all, your setup is fine and someone else is dropping them. If you see
>> only incoming packets, it's your fault.
> 
> Could you try to login again, please?

Done. I tried to connect on port 443 but still got no response. Is your
host still up now? It doesn't look like that.

This problem might be easier to debug while talking over IRC, Jabber or
something like that. I'll go to sleep soon... If you have Jabber you can
reach me as [EMAIL PROTECTED]

>> In any case, I would now try to let sshd listen on another port that is
>> probably not filtered (like 443).
> 
> Done:
> 
> sshd_config: Port 443

And you restarted sshd, didn't you? (Not that I think you are stupid, I
just want to rule out obvious and unnecessary errors.)

> iptables script: -A block -i ppp0 -p tcp --dport 443 -j ACCEPT
> 
> But, if I run iptables -L then I can't see opened port 443! Why?
> 
> Chain block (2 references)
> target prot opt source   destination 
> ACCEPT 0--  anywhere anywherestate 
> RELATED,ESTABLISHED 
> ACCEPT tcp  --  anywhere anywheretcp dpt:smtp 
> ACCEPT tcp  --  anywhere anywheretcp dpt:https 
   ^

There it is. You can pass -n to iptables to only see port numbers and IP
addresses instead of service names (looked up from /etc/services) and
resolved host names.

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Re: network problem on a dell machine

2007-04-09 Thread Thilo Six

Greg Folkert wrote the following on 09.04.2007 20:27:



>> you said you can ping google.com?
>> -> name resolution works
> 
> I doubt it. Unless he has a /etc/hosts entry for it.
> 
> I believe his /etc/resolv.conf is screwed.

After thinking about it that would explain this curiosity but then he has
fooled me.

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RE: etch upgrade problem

2007-04-09 Thread Seth Goodman

Well, a bit premature on solved status.  The upgrade from Sarge to Etch
did complete after killing the screensaver process, but it did not leave
the system in a good state.  Minor problems include Postgre failing on
boot, as well as a mini-DNS server that I don't believe was in Sarge
failing to start, but the main problem is that X is inoperable.

Looking at the wiki at http://wiki.debian.org/Xorg69To7, some of the
common problems are present.  xserver-org does appear to be there, so at
least that's not a problem.  After removing various unused packages,
/usr/X11R6/bin contains only a lib directory with a few fonts at the
bottom of the tree and the expected symlink from /usr/X11R6/bin to
/usr/bin.  Running "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg", with either
autodetection or without, so far has not resulted in a working X
configuration.  On boot, X doesn't start and the error file makes it
sound like it is unable to use ACPI or APM through the BIOS.  The
hardware detection worked perfectly on Sarge for everything now in this
box except for the VGA card, and the problem there was only setting the
resolution.

I apologize in advance for the long log files included here.  I'm not
sure how to best do this without abusing the bandwidth of those on
dial-up lines.

Here's the output of lspci:

00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82820 820 (Camino) Chipset Host
Bridge (MCH) (rev 03)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82820 820 (Camino) Chipset AGP
Bridge (rev 03)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801AA PCI Bridge (rev 02)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801AA ISA Bridge (LPC) (rev 02)
00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801AA IDE (rev 02)
00:1f.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801AA USB (rev 02)
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801AA SMBus (rev 02)
00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801AA AC'97
Audio (rev 02)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: S3 Inc. Savage 4 (rev 03)
02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82557/8/9 [Ethernet Pro
100] (rev 08)


Running "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" with autodetection gives the
following xorg.conf:

cray4:~# cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf
# /etc/X11/xorg.conf (xorg X Window System server configuration file)
#
# This file was generated by dexconf, the Debian X Configuration tool,
using
# values from the debconf database.
#
# Edit this file with caution, and see the /etc/X11/xorg.conf manual
page.
# (Type "man /etc/X11/xorg.conf" at the shell prompt.)
#
# This file is automatically updated on xserver-xorg package upgrades
*only*
# if it has not been modified since the last upgrade of the xserver-xorg
# package.
#
# If you have edited this file but would like it to be automatically
updated
# again, run the following command:
#   sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg

Section "Files"
FontPath"/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc"
FontPath"/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc"
FontPath"/usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic"
FontPath"/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic"
FontPath"/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/:unscaled"
FontPath"/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled"
FontPath"/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/:unscaled"
FontPath"/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled"
FontPath"/usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1"
FontPath"/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1"
FontPath"/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi"
FontPath"/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi"
FontPath"/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi"
FontPath"/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi"
# path to defoma fonts
FontPath
"/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType"
EndSection

Section "Module"
Load"bitmap"
Load"dbe"
Load"ddc"
Load"dri"
Load"extmod"
Load"freetype"
Load"glx"
Load"int10"
Load"record"
Load"vbe"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Generic Keyboard"
Driver  "kbd"
Option  "CoreKeyboard"
Option  "XkbRules"  "xorg"
Option  "XkbModel"  "pc104"
Option  "XkbLayout" "us"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Configured Mouse"
Driver  "mouse"
Option  "CorePointer"
Option  "Device""/dev/psaux"
Option  "Protocol"  "PS/2"
Option  "Emulate3Buttons"   "true"
EndSection

Section "Device"
Identifier  "S3 Inc. Savage 4"
Driver  "savage"
BusID   "PCI:1:0:0"
Option  "UseFBDev"  "true"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier  "Generic Monitor"
Option  "DPMS"
HorizSync   28-49
VertRefresh 43-72
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identif

Re: GPL v3?

2007-04-09 Thread Stefan Monnier

>> I say "Patents BAD" only if they are used for keeping progress from
>> happening.
> Software patents are an unmitigated evil.  However, attempting to fix a
> patent problem with a copyright license is a serious error.

You're confused: while I expect most GPLv3 contributors find software patents
an unmitigated evil and would like to be able to make them disappear, the
GPLv3 does not try to do that.  It only tries to prevent the abuse of patents
to circumvent the intent of the GPL.


Stefan


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Sources list for upgrade from sarge to etch?

2007-04-09 Thread Michael Kerwin

I am trying to upgrade a computer from sarge to etch and I am reading the
release notes about it and it says to use aptitude to update and etc.
 
My question is what should I change my sources.list in /etc/apt to? Because
it says in the release notes to make sure it points to sarge when doing the
update. Since etch is now the stable I have tried changing the sources list
to oldstable  and even tried sarge and it couldn't connect with the changes.
I saw and email or something the sarge was changing to oldstable. 
 
I only have 3 line in my sources list.
 
Deb ftp://ftp.usdebian.org/debian/ oldstable main contrib. non-free
Deb-src ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ oldstable main contrib. non-free
Deb http://security.debian.org/ oldstable/updates main contrib. non-free
 
 
Will someone help me?
 
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[debian-user] The List Standard

2007-04-09 Thread Ted Hilts


My browser for mail is Thunderbird and Seamonkey I use for browsing.

Thunderbird runs with threads beginning with the first issue ins the 
subject line and then all successive emails related are tied together in 
a descending fashion.  I take this to mean that one can first see the 
first issue and follow downwards at other inputs as long as the subject 
remains the same. However, most businesses do just the opposite either 
leaving off the original or piling their reply in an ascending fashion.  
This creates a problem for me because my mail client wants me to put the 
next message at the bottom and positions the cursor to this will 
happen.  Also, there are no upward threading that I know of. But a lot 
of people expect a reply at the top.  What I have begun to do is tell 
them to go to the bottom to get at my reply so they can first see what 
they have previously said which they often forget or get it wrong.  
However, I also notice that many people in the list snip out stuff so 
that when the next person responds it is possible they do not have the 
same context and the same information and so go off in a different 
direction.


Have I got it all wrong or are there conventions we should all be 
observing.  I usually respond to a part of the original not by embedding 
remarks into the original email (as some do) but by copying the part 
down to the bottom quoted and followed by my email suggestion that way 
the original and all following emails that preceded mine are preserved.  
I have observed conflicts over this issue and I am beginning to wonder 
what the list standard is on this matter -- or should be.


Thanks, Ted


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Re: SSH port 22 is invisible from the internet!! :(

2007-04-09 Thread Franck Joncourt

On Mon, Apr 09, 2007 at 07:33:31PM +0200, csanyipal wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 09, 2007 at 07:18:58PM +0200, Franck Joncourt wrote:
> 
> $ sudo telnet 127.0.0.1 22
> Trying 127.0.0.1...
> Connected to 127.0.0.1.
> Escape character is '^]'.
> SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_4.3p2 Debian-9
> ^]
> Protocol mismatch.
> Connection closed by foreign host.

Good point. At least we know, your ssh server is running on port 22.

> > Afterwards, you could worry a bit more with iptables if it does not work.
> 
> If the present iptables setup don't work, then I have no idea further how to 
> setup iptables to solve this problem?
> 
> Any advices will be appreciated!
> 

Here is a piece of a script, which will allow you to connect through
ssh. (I have not checked out your iptables output)

###
# Flush rules
iptables -F
iptables -F -t nat
iptables -F -t mangle

# Remove user-defined chains
iptables -X
iptables -X -t nat
iptables -X -t mangle

# Reset counters
iptables -Z
iptables -Z -t mangle
iptables -Z -t nat

# Set policy for the filter table
iptables -P INPUT DROP
iptables -P FORWARD DROP
iptables -P OUTPUT ACCEPT

iptables -A INPUT -m state --state RELATED,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT

# Allow ssh clients
iptables -A INPUT -i eth0 -p tcp --syn --dport 22 -m state --state NEW -j ACCEPT
###

Just written. So there may be some mistypes !

Otherwise, have you turned on the debug ?

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/smhfw$ ssh -v [EMAIL PROTECTED]
OpenSSH_4.3p2 Debian-9, OpenSSL 0.9.8e 23 Feb 2007
debug1: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh/ssh_config
debug1: Applying options for *
debug1: Connecting to sid [192.168.0.1] port 22.
debug1: Connection established.
debug1: identity file /home/thialme/.ssh/identity type -1
debug1: identity file /home/thialme/.ssh/id_rsa type -1
debug1: identity file /home/thialme/.ssh/id_dsa type -1
debug1: Remote protocol version 2.0, remote software version
OpenSSH_4.3p2 Debian-9
[...]

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Re: Sam Hocevar, is this true?

On Mon, 2007-04-09 at 14:21 -0400, Matthew Blanc wrote:
> Hello, I had recently saw this site on a forum I go to: [SNIPPED] and
> was wondering if anyone know the veracity of these allegations against
> our new project lead? 

Someone has an Axe to Grind. That site is compromised by that someone
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Kernel bug?

2007-04-09 Thread Freddy Freeloader

I installed Etch a couple of weeks on a Toshiba Tecra A4-S211 for a 
friend of mine.  Today I had to install some software and get his new 
printer working.  While I was at it I ran apt-get update && apt-get 
upgrade. 

The kernel was patched during this upgrade and now the laptop will no 
longer shut down on its own.  What follows are the last lines in the 
shut down messages, but even though the last line says "system halted" 
the monitor stays on and the laptop fails to power down.


Deactivating swap...done.
Will now halt.
Sychronizing SCSI cache for disk sda:
System halted. 

This laptop has an ata hard drive in it, not SCSI or SATA, at least 
according to Toshiba's official documentation for this laptop. However, 
lspci identifies the hard drive controller as "00.1f.2 IDE Interface: 
Intel Corporation 82801FBM  (ICH6M Sata Controller (rev 04)". 

There is also a bug during system startup which causes timeouts/hangs.  
The system has a problem identifying drives.  This has been a problem 
since the initial Etch installation, although it has always shut down 
correctly up to now.


Here is the relevant dmesg printout for what happens during boot:


PCI: Discovered primary peer bus 04 [IRQ]
PCI: Discovered primary peer bus 05 [IRQ]
PCI: Using IRQ router PIIX/ICH [8086/2641] at :00:1f.0
PCI: setting IRQ 11 as level-triggered
PCI: Found IRQ 11 for device :00:1f.2
PCI: Sharing IRQ 11 with :00:1d.1
PCI: Found IRQ 11 for device :06:06.0
PCI: Sharing IRQ 11 with :00:1d.2
PCI: Sharing IRQ 11 with :06:04.0
PCI: Sharing IRQ 11 with :06:06.4
PCI: Cannot allocate resource region 0 of device :06:06.0
PCI: Bridge: :00:01.0
  IO window: c000-dfff
  MEM window: c000-cfff
  PREFETCH window: 9000-9fff
PCI: Bridge: :00:1c.0
  IO window: a000-bfff
  MEM window: bc00-bfff
  PREFETCH window: 8c00-8fff
PCI: Bridge: :00:1c.1
  IO window: 8000-9fff
  MEM window: b800-bbff
  PREFETCH window: 8800-8bff
PCI: Bus 7, cardbus bridge: :06:06.0
  IO window: 6000-60ff
  IO window: 6400-64ff
  PREFETCH window: 8000-81ff
  MEM window: b200-b3ff
PCI: Bridge: :00:1e.0
  IO window: 6000-7fff
  MEM window: b000-b7ff
  PREFETCH window: 8000-87ff
PCI: Found IRQ 11 for device :00:01.0
PCI: Sharing IRQ 11 with :00:1c.1
PCI: Sharing IRQ 11 with :00:1d.3
PCI: Sharing IRQ 11 with :01:00.0
PCI: Sharing IRQ 11 with :02:00.0
PCI: Setting latency timer of device :00:01.0 to 64
PCI: setting IRQ 10 as level-triggered
PCI: Found IRQ 10 for device :00:1c.0
PCI: Sharing IRQ 10 with :00:1e.2
PCI: Setting latency timer of device :00:1c.0 to 64
PCI: Found IRQ 11 for device :00:1c.1
PCI: Sharing IRQ 11 with :00:01.0
PCI: Sharing IRQ 11 with :00:1d.3
PCI: Sharing IRQ 11 with :01:00.0
PCI: Sharing IRQ 11 with :02:00.0
PCI: Setting latency timer of device :00:1c.1 to 64
PCI: Setting latency timer of device :00:1e.0 to 64
PCI: Found IRQ 11 for device :06:06.0
PCI: Sharing IRQ 11 with :00:1d.2
PCI: Sharing IRQ 11 with :06:04.0
PCI: Sharing IRQ 11 with :06:06.4
NET: Registered protocol family 2
IP route cache hash table entries: 4096 (order: 2, 16384 bytes)
TCP established hash table entries: 16384 (order: 5, 131072 bytes)
TCP bind hash table entries: 8192 (order: 4, 65536 bytes)
TCP: Hash tables configured (established 16384 bind 8192)
TCP reno registered
audit: initializing netlink socket (disabled)
audit(1176121167.776:1): initialized
VFS: Disk quotas dquot_6.5.1
Dquot-cache hash table entries: 1024 (order 0, 4096 bytes)
Initializing Cryptographic API
io scheduler noop registered
io scheduler anticipatory registered
io scheduler deadline registered
io scheduler cfq registered (default)
PCI: Setting latency timer of device :00:01.0 to 64
assign_interrupt_mode Found MSI capability
Allocate Port Service[:00:01.0:pcie00]
PCI: Setting latency timer of device :00:1c.0 to 64
assign_interrupt_mode Found MSI capability
Allocate Port Service[:00:1c.0:pcie00]
Allocate Port Service[:00:1c.0:pcie02]
PCI: Setting latency timer of device :00:1c.1 to 64
assign_interrupt_mode Found MSI capability
Allocate Port Service[:00:1c.1:pcie00]
Allocate Port Service[:00:1c.1:pcie02]
isapnp: Scanning for PnP cards...
isapnp: No Plug & Play device found
Serial: 8250/16550 driver $Revision: 1.90 $ 4 ports, IRQ sharing enabled
serial8250: ttyS0 at I/O 0x3f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
PCI: setting IRQ 5 as level-triggered
PCI: Found IRQ 5 for device :00:1e.3
PCI: Sharing IRQ 5 with :06:06.3
RAMDISK driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 8192K size 1024 blocksize
PNP: No PS/2 controller found. Probing ports directly.
i8042.c: Detected active multiplexing controller, rev 1.1.
serio: i8042 AUX0 port at 0x60,0x64 irq 12
serio: i8042 AUX1 port at 0x60,0x64 irq 12
serio: i8042 AUX2 port at 0x60,0x64 irq 12
serio: i8042 AUX3 port at 0x60,0x64 irq

Re: SSH port 22 is invisible from the internet!! :(

2007-04-09 Thread csanyipal

On Mon, Apr 09, 2007 at 09:02:49PM +0200, gianca wrote:

> >> Have you any setting for option "ListenAddress" in "/etc/ssh/sshd_config" ?
> > Yes:
> > #ListenAddress ::
> > #ListenAddress 0.0.0.0
> So there is no limitation.
> 
> You said you can "ssh localhost", didn't you?

Yes, I can! :)

> "nmap localhost" should show port 22 is open.

$ sudo nmap localhost

Starting Nmap 4.11 ( http://www.insecure.org/nmap/ ) at 2007-04-09 21:35 CEST
Interesting ports on localhost.localdomain (127.0.0.1):
Not shown: 1668 closed ports
PORT STATE SERVICE
22/tcp   open  ssh
25/tcp   open  smtp
80/tcp   open  http
111/tcp  open  rpcbind
538/tcp  open  gdomap
631/tcp  open  ipp
666/tcp  open  doom
694/tcp  open  unknown
2628/tcp open  dict
3306/tcp open  mysql
8000/tcp open  http-alt
8081/tcp open  blackice-icecap

> And can you "ssh 85.222.164.132"?

Yes, I can! :)

> Have any other pc in you private lan to try to ssh to yours?

I haven't now. But, if I must, I can to connect to my PC box another 
PC, to try this ssh login.. For this I must to shut down my PC to set 
up ethernet cards properly in to 2 PCs.

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Re: Sam Hocevar, is this true?

2007-04-09 Thread Tom Allison


Sven Arvidsson wrote:

On Mon, 2007-04-09 at 14:21 -0400, Matthew Blanc wrote:

Hello, I had recently saw this site on a forum I go to: http://... ,
and was wondering if anyone know the veracity of these allegations
against our new project lead? 


Link edited out, (please don't feed trolls).

I think this statement from Sam Hocevar, in debian-vote says it all:

"I DID NOT CREATE THIS WEBSITE AND I AM NOT A MEMBER OF THIS
ORGANISATION."

From http://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2007/03/msg00196.html

If you're interested, read the whole thread on -vote for context,
starting here, http://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2007/03/msg00029.html




Looks like made up B.S. to me.
So I'll just go along happily in my little life upgrading my debian distros this 
week and let someone else who has time to chase trumped up drama queen entries 
do just that.



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Multiple locales

2007-04-09 Thread Salve Håkedal

I run etch on 2 machines.  I've installed dfm on Etch. Dfm is not
translated to Norwegian, but to Danish.  On one of the machines, dfm
uses Danish, but on the other one, I just get English.
I can't figure out why this is so, and how to make the other machine
also pick Danish for programs that do not have Norwegian.

Salve


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Re: Help compiling source package (autoconf) - AM_SANITY_CHECK not found