Re: Unexpected irq trap when booting

2007-06-22 Thread Zach

Sorry I meant "noirq" is one kernel paramater and the other is "debug" :-)

Zach

On 6/23/07, Zach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Try booting with kernel parameter: noirqdebug

Also try the kernel paramater: debug
(this should show what exactly is at irq vector XXX)

Zach




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Re: Unexpected irq trap when booting

2007-06-22 Thread Zach

Try booting with kernel parameter: noirqdebug

Also try the kernel paramater: debug
(this should show what exactly is at irq vector XXX)

Zach


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Re: Where does mailman put...

2007-06-22 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Fri, Jun 22, 2007 at 08:57:56PM -0400, Eric d'Alibut wrote:
> ...subscriber name and email data.
> 
> I have an old now-decommisioned mailman install and I've been asked to
> go through the subscriber list for some info. Can't find it!

/var/lib/mailman/lists/
It's all in those binary files. Mailman offers you some cli tools to work
with them in the mailman/bin directory.

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Re: Unexpected irq trap when booting

2007-06-22 Thread Jacob S
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On Fri, 22 Jun 2007 00:47:04 GMT
"s. keeling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Jacob S <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > 
> >  On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 17:34:43 -0700
> >  Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > > On Tue, Jun 19, 2007 at 06:49:41PM -0500, Jacob S wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > Good thought, but "acpi=off" did not make any (noticeable)
> > > > difference. It still hung during boot with an unexpected irq
> > > > trap. 
> > > 
> > > some googling turned up this:
> > > 
> > > http://www.mepis.org/node/10972
> > 
> >  Thanks for the tip. I turned off everything the BIOS will let me
> > turn off... USB, lan, wifi, modem, etc. and it still had the irq
> > trap during
> 
> A shot in the dark from /var/log/messages:
> 
>If a device doesn't work, try "pci=routeirq".  If it helps, post a
>report

Nope. :-( A few of these things have changed which vector the irq trap
occurs in, but none have eliminated the error. Even with all the
options combined, it still hangs on an unexpected irq trap.

Thanks again,
Jacob
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backports

2007-06-22 Thread Francesco Pietra
I need to install "checkinstall" for Linux Debian etch, from backports,
primarily on amd64 etch. To check viability, and modifying a recipe found for
"sarge", I unsuccessfully tried with i386 by:

(1) Adding this line to my /etc/apt/sources.list file

deb http://www.backports.org/debian/ etch-backports main contrib non-free

 (i.e., "etch" in place of "sarge")

(2) Adding the following lines to my /etc/apt/apt-file.conf

which should deactivate all packages from backports.org

Package: *
Pin: release a=etch-backports
Pin-Priority: 200

i.e."apt-file.conf" in place of "preferences" and "etch" in place of "sarge").


I planned to continue with:

(3) #apt-get -t etch-backports install checkinstall

(i.e., "etch" in place of "sarge"),

though, a check showed failure of (1) and (2) above:


apt-get update

ended with:

Failed to fetch http:/www.backports.org/debian/dists/etch-backports/Release.gpg
 Unable to connect to  http:
Failed to fetch
http:/www.backports.org/debian/dists/etch-backports/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz
 Unable to connect to  http:
Failed to fetch
http:/www.backports.org/debian/dists/etch-backports/contrib/binary-i386/Packages.gz
 Unable to connect to  http:
Failed to fetch
http:/www.backports.org/debian/dists/etch-backports/non-free/binary-i386/Packages.gz
 Unable to connect to  http:
Reading package lists... Done
W: Couldn't stat source package list http: etch-backports/main Packages
(/var/lib/apt/lists/_www.backports.org_debian_dists_etch-backports_main_binary-i386_Packages)
- stat (2 No such file or directory)
W: Couldn't stat source package list http: etch-backports/contrib Packages
(/var/lib/apt/lists/_www.backports.org_debian_dists_etch-backports_contrib_binary-i386_Packages)
- stat (2 No such file or directory)
W: Couldn't stat source package list http: etch-backports/non-free Packages
(/var/lib/apt/lists/_www.backports.org_debian_dists_etch-backports_non-free_binary-i386_Packages)
- stat (2 No such file or directory)
W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones
used instead.


Commenting out "Pin-Priority: 200" in (2) above did not solve:

apt-get update

ended with:

Failed to fetch http:/www.backports.org/debian/dists/etch-backports/Release.gpg
 Unable to connect to  http:
Failed to fetch
http:/www.backports.org/debian/dists/etch-backports/main/binary-
i386/Packages.gz  Unable to connect to  http:
Failed to fetch
http:/www.backports.org/debian/dists/etch-backports/contrib/bina
ry-i386/Packages.gz  Unable to connect to  http:
Failed to fetch
http:/www.backports.org/debian/dists/etch-backports/non-free/bin
ary-i386/Packages.gz  Unable to connect to  http:
Reading package lists... Done
E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones
used  instead.



Thanks for indicating my mistake.

francesco pietra




 

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Re: help with "apt-get purge"

2007-06-22 Thread Zach

also you can always do: dpkg --purge

zach

On 6/22/07, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On 6/21/07, Mathias Brodala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi.
>
> Tshepang Lekhonkhobe, 21.06.2007 15:55:
> > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=133421 promised me
> > that "apt-get purge" now works (0.7.2) but it complains that it's an
> > invalid operation.
>
> Dunno if you didn't see it but the last mail in this report says that the 
patch
> providing the "purge" operation was not applied correctly. Either wait for an
> update or get the source and fix it yourself.

thanks for it now works and yes I didn't see it


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Fwd: any realaudio plugin?

2007-06-22 Thread David Fox

Argh. Tthis wanted to go to the list, not to the poster, my apologies...


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Date: Jun 22, 2007 8:47 PM
Subject: Re: any realaudio plugin?
To: michael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>



On 6/21/07, michael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I've been trying a few things but just can't get mozilla (unstable) to
view the videos (realaudio plugin?)

from the BBC web page
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/video_and_audio/default.stm

Any clues any body??

Thanks, Michael




Oddly enough, even with realplayer installed, I tell it I want realplayer
and it
tells me it can't find a realplay or hxplay in the system search path (it
being iceweasel).

But if I tell it Windows media, up pops mozilla-mplayer plugin and all is
well.

It seems that abcnews videos play now. They wouldn't before - but I'm just
checking this
new beta i-caught service on ABC news and those videos seem to play.

On the realplay issue specifically, I got some error messages from the
player when I tried the
OP's bbc web content with the "realplay" option, stuff about ignoring an
unknown attribute and
seeing data after a newline so it is probably confused about something.
That's not very helpful,
and it's difficult for me to copy the terminal output and paste it in
iceweasel/gmail - the $*$*
editor thing highlights all my entered text and when I try and paste I lose
everything I typed.. it's
irritating.. ;(


Re: Purge leaves some files

2007-06-22 Thread Daniel Burrows
  There are two possibilities:

  (1) you still have a package installed that owns those files.  This
  is likely the case for the stuff under /usr/share/doc.

  You can find out which packages have installed a file with
  dpkg -S (filename).

  (2) the package is buggy and doesn't clean up after itself.  This is
  likely the caes for stuff under /etc.

  In this case, slap the maintainer with a bug report.

  Daniel


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Re: Sound card not working

2007-06-22 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Fri, Jun 22, 2007 at 01:58:18AM -0500, Mike McCarty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was 
heard to say:
> I am administering (or attempting to, anyway) a Debian install
> on a machine a few years old. Debian is not recognizing the
> sound card for some reason. I do hear a "pop" during boot, so
> I suppose that something is recognizing and initing it to some
> degree, but no sounds. I have the output from dmesg as an attachment.
> 
> Anyone have some hints as to how to proceed?

  I would double-check that the volume is turned up and not muted.

  Daniel


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Re: Scripting Apt-Get (pop-up screens, e.g. with kernel updates)

2007-06-22 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Fri, Jun 22, 2007 at 09:23:32AM -0400, Michael Matthews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
was heard to say:
> I am wondering if anyone can tell me if there's an easy way, when using
> `apt-get upgrade`, to get around the pop-up configuration screens that occur
> with some updates.  One example of this is with a kernel update.  It appears
> that the kernel update wants to inform you that you should reboot soon, and
> unfortunately the colorful blue and red screen cannot be circumvented with
> the usual ways.  I tried this:

  You need to read up on debconf. (the program, not the conference)

  Daniel


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Re: problems with radeon driver (solved)

2007-06-22 Thread Bob

Marcelo Chiapparini wrote:

On Mon, 2007-06-18 at 14:26 -0300, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote:
  

Hello,

I am running etch in an amd64 system with an ATI Radeon Mobility 9200
(AGP) video card. The ATI driver from x.org doesn't work with this card,
after a small GUI activity, the screen freezes. I've reported this
problem in the past. The only workaround I've found was to install the
fglrx-driver package, run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and select the
fglrx driver instead the ati one. No more video freezes. But now totem
doesn't start, I get the message: The Application "totem" has quit
unexpectedly. This problem has to do exclusively with the fglrx driver.
I experimented with the ati and fglrx drivers in another i386 machine,
and totem didn't start with the fglrx driver. It works fine with the ati
driver from x.org.



After a *lot* of googling, I discovered that the problem with the xorg
driver is the glx module. Disabling it I can use the xorg ati driver
without problems. And I can run totem and grace too! (they didn't work
with the driver from ATI) fortunately the machine is only for work, so I
can do perfectly well without the glx module... I guess
  


Mmm, I use glx on 3 different radeons, what page suggested that was the 
problem?
When the screen freezes is it just the screen?  Can you ssh in and have 
a look at x log?


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dhcp3-client package (was Lost internet connection after upgrade(solved))

2007-06-22 Thread Frank McCormick
On Fri, 22 Jun 2007 22:18:54 -0400
Frank McCormick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



> On Fri, 22 Jun 2007 18:55:53 -0700
> Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote

>bugs fixed in
> subsequent releases (3 bugs)
1) #430064 [FIXED dhcp3 3.0.5-2]: New relaxed request usage breaks
networking
2) #430134 [FIXED dhcp3 3.0.5-2]: dhcdbd: does not communicate
default route and dns
3) #254785 [FIXED dhcp3-server 3.0+3.0.1rc11-1]: dhcp3-server:
purging fails on woody :

I guess we can expect a new package any minute now :)

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Re: OT: Say NO to the Microsoft Office format as an ISO standard

2007-06-22 Thread Bob

Manon Metten wrote:

Hi,

This urgent request was posted on [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 by Hagar de l'Est

< [EMAIL PROTECTED] >.
Is not exactly Debian, but I think also of great importance for all of us.

Please sign the petition here: http://www.noooxml.org/petition.
(Cookies have to be enabled for this site.)

Thanks, Manon.


Done.
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Re: ssh on lan by hostname instead of dynamic ip

2007-06-22 Thread BartlebyScrivener
On Jun 22, 4:30 pm, Tod Detre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>if you're machines are set up with
> ipv6 and are on the same lan, just use the ipv6 local address. you can
> get this by doing ifconfig and using the inet6 addr. It should start
> with fe80. Yeah, ipv6 address are long and hard to remember, but you can
> copy and paste and put it in your script. The address is based on the
> MAC address of your card and so shouldn't change unless you change
> hardware. Use ping6 to see if the machines can ping each other.

This sounded promising, and the machines are on the same home lan, but
I could not ping6 them or ssh -6 into them using those addresses.
Maybe there's something else I need to configure first?

In the meantime, I just did static ip addresses for the three Debian
machines for the time being.

Thanks so much for the suggestions.

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Re: Lost internet connection after upgrade(solved)

2007-06-22 Thread Frank McCormick
On Fri, 22 Jun 2007 18:55:53 -0700
Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> so just out of curiousity, did you get to running 'route'? and if so
> what did it show?


with improper dhclient.conf

 sudo route
Kernel IP routing table
Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse
Iface 192.168.1.0 *   255.255.255.0   U 0 0 0 eth0


with proper dhclient.conf

sudo route
Kernel IP routing table
Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse
Iface 192.168.1.0 *   255.255.255.0   U 0 00 eth0 
default 192.168.1.1 0.0.0.0 UG 0  00 eth0


Notice NO default route with the bad config file ?

> > #request nothing: let the server send all the parameters it knows
> > request;
> > 
> > 
> >   This is the dhclient.conf as it WAS :
> > 
> > request subnet-mask, broadcast-address, time-offset, routers,
> > domain-name, domain-name-servers, host-name,
> > netbios-name-servers, netbios-scope, interface-mtu;
> > 
> >   Just REPLACE your dhclient.conf with the old(er) version, or copy
> > the request line from the above file and you'll be back in business.
> 
> hmmm... was the request line the default before? 

Yup, check any dhcpclient package.

if so, why did they
> change it?

Good question. Maybe it's something certain ISP's don't like while it works with
others ??
>>may warrant some research and perhaps an email to the devs
> and/or bug report.

  If I could understand the Debian bug reporting system I would
do that.


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Re: which program can read M$ Access file (.mdb)

2007-06-22 Thread Serena Cantor
So many software I have never heard of!
I'd rather install a pirated version of M$ Office
Thanks anyway!

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> mdbtools - JET / MS Access database (MDB) tools
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Re: Turning off the %^&* scroll wheel

2007-06-22 Thread Curt Howland
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On Friday 22 June 2007, Bob McGowan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was 
heard to say:
> > ==
> > Section "InputDevice"
> >         Identifier      "Configured Mouse"
> >         Driver          "mouse"
> >         Option          "CorePointer"
> >         Option          "Device"                "/dev/input/mice"
> >         Option          "Protocol"              "ExplorerPS/2"
> >         Option          "Emulate3Buttons"       "true"
> > EndSection
> >
> > Section "InputDevice"
> >         Identifier      "Synaptics Touchpad"
> >         Driver          "synaptics"
> >         Option          "SendCoreEvents"        "true"
> >         Option          "Device"                "/dev/psaux"
> >         Option          "Protocol"              "auto-dev"
> >         Option          "HorizScrollDelta"      "0"
> > EndSection
> > =

> Which of these two is actually used in the 'ServerLayout' section?

==
Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier  "Default Layout"
Screen  "Default Screen"
InputDevice "Generic Keyboard"
InputDevice "Configured Mouse"
InputDevice "Synaptics Touchpad"
EndSection
==

Ah... both. :^)

> Or if both are there (as they are for my laptop) you could try
> commenting one out to see which is actually defining the wheel.
>  Then edit the conf file to change the 'Option "Protocol"' for that
> device to be some other descriptor.

I'll give it a shot and get back to the list.

> Another thought, based on output from 'gpm -t help', the imps name
> is not listed, but imps2 is.

Yes, I meant imps2, I was running from memory. Organic compression is 
lossy.

However, this is interesting:

# ps aux | grep gpm
root  2704  0.0  0.0   1720   276 ?Ss   Jun20   
0:00 /usr/sbin/gpm -m /dev/input/mice -t exps2
# gpm -t help | grep exps2
exps2 (ExplorerPS/2) - IntelliMouse Explorer (ps2) - 3 buttons (wheel 
is repeated).

So gpm is being started with an option that lists an explicit wheel. 
However, changing this to ps2 and other things with "dpkg-reconfigure 
gpm" made no difference in X, however, it did make the mouse stop 
working on the console. So obviously it's something specifically to 
do with the X configuration.

The console shows no indication that the area of the touchpad that is 
acting as a scroll wheel under X is any different from the rest of 
the pad, another indication to me that it's something explicitly to 
do with X.

> Though the names are from gpm they should match names used by X11,
> since the two have to (and do in my experience) work together.

Yes, well, one of the things I tried was "synps2" with gpm for the 
Synaptics touch pad, and that didn't work in the console at all. X 
kept right on working through it all, with the wheel.

As I said, let me mess with the xorg.conf a few times, maybe in the 
morning, since right now I don't want to restart X a dozen times 
trying things out.

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Re: Lost internet connection after upgrade(solved)

2007-06-22 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Jun 22, 2007 at 09:05:21PM -0400, Frank McCormick wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Jun 2007 17:57:11 -0700
> Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > okay, how about the output of
> > 
> > route
> 
>I just found the problem. 
>This is the NEW dhclient.conf file. Notice the "request" line is
> empty.
> 

so just out of curiousity, did you get to running 'route'? and if so
what did it show?

> 
> #request nothing: let the server send all the parameters it knows
> request;
> 
> 
>   This is the dhclient.conf as it WAS :
> 
> request subnet-mask, broadcast-address, time-offset, routers,
>   domain-name, domain-name-servers, host-name,
>   netbios-name-servers, netbios-scope, interface-mtu;
> 
>   Just REPLACE your dhclient.conf with the old(er) version, or copy
> the request line from the above file and you'll be back in business.

hmmm... was the request line the default before? if so, why did they change
it? may warrant some research and perhaps an email to the devs and/or
bug report.

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Re: which program can read M$ Access file (.mdb)

2007-06-22 Thread Andrew Perrin

kexi-mdb-plugin - MS Access (MDB) driver for Kexi
libhk-classes-mdb - MS Access driver plugin for hk_classes
libmdbodbc - MDB tools ODBC module
libmdbtools - mdbtools libraries
mdbtools - JET / MS Access database (MDB) tools
mdbtools-dev - mdbtools development files
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Re: Lost internet connection after upgrade(solved)

2007-06-22 Thread Frank McCormick
On Fri, 22 Jun 2007 17:57:11 -0700
Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Fri, Jun 22, 2007 at 06:57:26PM -0400, Frank McCormick wrote:
> > On Fri, 22 Jun 2007 15:26:04 -0700
> > Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > > > 
> > > >   Back again...with a different problem. Apt-get this afternoon
> > > > updated the dhcp client package on my Sid installation and now
> > > 
> > > well you're getting ip. what is the output of 
> > > 
> > > ifconfig eth0
> > 
> >sudo ifconfig eth0
> > eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:0C:F1:90:91:EF  
> >   inet addr:192.168.1.8  Bcast:192.168.1.255
> > Mask:255.255.255.0 inet6 addr: fe80::20c:f1ff:fe90:91ef/64
> > Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
> > 
> >  ping www.google.ca
> > connect: Network is unreachable
> > 
> 
> okay, how about the output of
> 
> route

   I just found the problem. 
   This is the NEW dhclient.conf file. Notice the "request" line is
empty.


#request nothing: let the server send all the parameters it knows
request;


  This is the dhclient.conf as it WAS :

request subnet-mask, broadcast-address, time-offset, routers,
domain-name, domain-name-servers, host-name,
netbios-name-servers, netbios-scope, interface-mtu;

  Just REPLACE your dhclient.conf with the old(er) version, or copy
the request line from the above file and you'll be back in business.


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which program can read M$ Access file (.mdb)

2007-06-22 Thread Serena Cantor
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Where does mailman put...

2007-06-22 Thread Eric d'Alibut

...subscriber name and email data.

I have an old now-decommisioned mailman install and I've been asked to
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Re: Lost internet connection after upgrade

2007-06-22 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Jun 22, 2007 at 06:57:26PM -0400, Frank McCormick wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Jun 2007 15:26:04 -0700
> Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > > 
> > >   Back again...with a different problem. Apt-get this afternoon updated 
> > > the
> > > dhcp client package on my Sid installation and now I have lost my internet
> > > connection. The boot shows it is making the proper connection to my cable
> > > modem, but neither Firefox nor my email client connects. Both give me 
> > > errors.
> > > Installed now is dhcp3 3.0.5-1
> > > Everyting **seems** to be good on boot: this is the relevent extract from 
> > > the
> > > boot log:
> > 
> > well you're getting ip. what is the output of 
> > 
> > ifconfig eth0
> 
>sudo ifconfig eth0
> eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:0C:F1:90:91:EF  
>   inet addr:192.168.1.8  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
>   inet6 addr: fe80::20c:f1ff:fe90:91ef/64 Scope:Link
>   UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
>   RX packets:30 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
>   TX packets:33 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
>   collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 
>   RX bytes:5265 (5.1 KiB)  TX bytes:2947 (2.8 KiB)
> 
>  ping www.google.ca
> connect: Network is unreachable
> 

okay, how about the output of

route

> 
> 
> 
> > 
> > what is the contents of /etc/resolv.conf
> > 
> 
>   nameserver 192.168.1.1   ( I run a router before the cable modem )

maybe try putting in a known nameserver to see if you're getting out,
but I bet you're not...

> 
>Well if you reboot you may be in the same boat :)

that's the problem with sid... you don't always get those sweet triple
digit uptimes. But I try not to reboot unless there's a new kernel...

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Re: 2.6 kernel upgrade gives garbled video (w/o X11)

2007-06-22 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Jun 22, 2007 at 11:51:30PM -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Jun 22, 4:00 pm, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Jun 22, 1:20 pm, Andrew Sackville-West
> >
> > > On Fri, Jun 22, 2007 at 06:12:42PM -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > > Hi all,
> >
> > > > I recently attempted to upgrade my kernel from 2.4.27 to 2.6.18 on my
> > > > Sarge installation. First off, I had to change my sources.list to use
> > > > the Etch packages because of a dependency loop involving libc6.
> >

[...]

> >
> >
> > > I think there is some new console-font stuff happening. You can see it
> > > with a successful post-sarge boot .. the screen flickers while it sets
> > > up the consoles. Have you tried booting single-user mode?
> >
> >
> > No, I haven't tried booting into single user mode yet. That's a good
> > idea.
> >
> > As for the error, I was getting this error when trying to upgrade the
> > kernel:
> >
> > >>kernel-image-2.6-386: Depends: linux-image-2.6-486 but it is not going to 
> > >>be installed
> > >>libc6-dev: Depends: libc6 (= 2.5-9+b1) but 2.3.6.ds1-13 is to be installed
> >
> > Then, I get this error when trying to upgrade libc6:
> >
> > >>WARNING: POSIX threads library NPTL requires kernel version
> > >>2.6.1 or later. If you use a kernel 2.4, please upgrade it
> > >>before installing glibc.
> > >>dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libc6_2.5-9+b1_i386.deb 
> > >>(--unpack):
> >

[]
> 
> So, I managed to revert back to the Sarge packages and install the
> Sarge 2.6 kernel (2.6.8) without issues. However, I'm still getting
> the same garbled checkerboard pattern after boot. I tried booting in
> single user mode and still got the same video issues at the console.
> 

so, who knows what else might have gotten changed and what other etch
stuff you may have drug in. One of these things could be causing a
problem. maybe console-tools? just a guess.

Again, if you've partially moved up to etch, you may have to complete
it to get back into a working state. 

.02

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Re: OT: Say NO to the Microsoft Office format as an ISO standard

2007-06-22 Thread Alan Ianson
On Friday 22 June 2007 10:32, Manon Metten wrote:
> Hi,
>
> This urgent request was posted on [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>by Hagar de l'Est
> < [EMAIL PROTECTED] >.
> Is not exactly Debian, but I think also of great importance for all of us.

It is important. But alas, we'll likely have to live with it now since MS 
Office creates these bastards by default, and on (and on and on) it goes.

> Please sign the petition here: http://www.noooxml.org/petition.
> (Cookies have to be enabled for this site.)

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Re: Lost internet connection after upgrade

2007-06-22 Thread Frank McCormick
On Fri, 22 Jun 2007 23:39:36 +
Waqar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Same problem here. The ip address is getting assigned. I had
> networkmanager, and it automatically used to update the resolv.conf
> I found that it the automatically assigned was empty. I removed
> networkmanager and related packages and manually set the /etc/
> resolv.conf file.
> The network still does not seem to work. I can ping the router, but
> nothing beyond.
> 
> Yesterday evening while upgrading, there was some conflict about
> libcurl3-openssl and libcurl4-openssl packages. I installed the higher
> version. Could this be causing the problem.

   I just found the problem. 
   This is the NEW dhclient.conf file. Notice the "request" line is
empty.


#request nothing: let the server send all the parameters it knows
request;


  This is the dhclient.conf as it WAS :

request subnet-mask, broadcast-address, time-offset, routers,
domain-name, domain-name-servers, host-name,
netbios-name-servers, netbios-scope, interface-mtu;

  Just REPLACE your dhclient.conf with the old(er) version, or copy
the request line from the above file and you'll be back in business.


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Re: 2.6 kernel upgrade gives garbled video (w/o X11)

2007-06-22 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Jun 22, 4:00 pm, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Jun 22, 1:20 pm, Andrew Sackville-West
>
>
>
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Fri, Jun 22, 2007 at 06:12:42PM -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > Hi all,
>
> > > I recently attempted to upgrade my kernel from 2.4.27 to 2.6.18 on my
> > > Sarge installation. First off, I had to change my sources.list to use
> > > the Etch packages because of a dependency loop involving libc6.
>
> > what was the problem? there are 2.6 series kernel in sarge (2.6.8 I
> > think). You should be able to just do it without messing with Etch
> > packages. and since you've started... you may need to finish moving up
> > to Etch.
>
> > > However, I did the kernel installation w/ "apt-get install kernel-
> > > image-2.6-686" and the installation completed successfully w/ my Grub
> > > configurations updated automatically.
>
> > > When I restarted the machine and selected the 2.6 kernel, the boot
> > > process proceeded fine (and I could read all the text scrolling by).
> > > But when it came time to display the login prompt (terminal only, it's
> > > a server, so there's no X11) the screen got all garbled. Essentially
> > > all I can see is flickering black and white boxes covering the screen.
> > > However, I can login and reboot the machine - I just can't see what
> > > I'm typing.
>
> > > Anyone have any suggestions on this one? I tried installing the kernel-
> > > image-2.6-386 on a lark, but I still ran into the same problem. I'm
> > > not passing any special kernel parameters on boot to the 2.4 kernel
> > > either. What am I missing?
>
> > I think there is some new console-font stuff happening. You can see it
> > with a successful post-sarge boot .. the screen flickers while it sets
> > up the consoles. Have you tried booting single-user mode?
>
> > A
>
> No, I haven't tried booting into single user mode yet. That's a good
> idea.
>
> As for the error, I was getting this error when trying to upgrade the
> kernel:
>
> >>kernel-image-2.6-386: Depends: linux-image-2.6-486 but it is not going to 
> >>be installed
> >>libc6-dev: Depends: libc6 (= 2.5-9+b1) but 2.3.6.ds1-13 is to be installed
>
> Then, I get this error when trying to upgrade libc6:
>
> >>WARNING: POSIX threads library NPTL requires kernel version
> >>2.6.1 or later. If you use a kernel 2.4, please upgrade it
> >>before installing glibc.
> >>dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libc6_2.5-9+b1_i386.deb 
> >>(--unpack):
>
> Would it be a good idea to change my sources back to Sarge, apt-get
> update and then try installing the 2.6 kernel package again?
> Essentially, some packages I'd like to install seem to be giving me
> libc6 errors, so the whole point of the kernel upgrade was to be able
> to upgrade libc6.
>
> Thanks,
> Aaron
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So, I managed to revert back to the Sarge packages and install the
Sarge 2.6 kernel (2.6.8) without issues. However, I'm still getting
the same garbled checkerboard pattern after boot. I tried booting in
single user mode and still got the same video issues at the console.


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Re: Lost internet connection after upgrade

2007-06-22 Thread Waqar
I've tried a direct internet connection (w/o router) and that works.
Its only when I'm behind the router that I get 101 NEtwork unreachable


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Re: Lost internet connection after upgrade

2007-06-22 Thread Waqar
Same problem here. The ip address is getting assigned. I had
networkmanager, and it automatically used to update the resolv.conf
I found that it the automatically assigned was empty. I removed
networkmanager and related packages and manually set the /etc/
resolv.conf file.
The network still does not seem to work. I can ping the router, but
nothing beyond.

Yesterday evening while upgrading, there was some conflict about
libcurl3-openssl and libcurl4-openssl packages. I installed the higher
version. Could this be causing the problem.


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Re: apt-caher or approx?

2007-06-22 Thread Javier Enrique Tiá Marín
El vie, 22-06-2007 a las 15:50 -0300, Andrés Ghigliazza escribió:
> Hi there,
> 
> We will soon have, 5 or 6 Debian boxs (servers and desktops), in our
> LAN. We would like to know, if it is better to use apt-cacher o approx
> for the updates.
> 
> I couldn't find enough documentation of any of them, to see some
> features, before installing one.
> 
> Thanks very much,
> 
> tizo

I tested apt-cacher, apt-proxy and approx. 

My recomendation is approx: simple and stable.

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Re: /etc is gone

2007-06-22 Thread Karl E. Jorgensen
On Fri, Jun 22, 2007 at 09:47:06PM +, j j wrote:
> 
> On 6/20/07, Karl E. Jorgensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> On Mon, Jun 18, 2007 at 08:54:30PM -0400, j j wrote:
> > Hello
> >
> > I have been have trouble with my debian box(64 studio).  i just
> discovered that
> > /etc directory is missing.  I dont think i deleted it, but it seems that
> I must
> > have.
> 
> Perhaps not.
> 
> Things to look at:
> 
> - you haven't mounted something on /etc, have you? Although insanely
>   stupid, pls don't be offended. When weird things happen, it's time to
>   be insanely paranoid... (/proc/mounts should tell)
> 
> - You haven't chroot'ed yourself, have you? (I know. Paranoia...)
> 
> - Anything in the system logs? (things like re-mounting read-only or
>   filesystem corruption would be very interesting...)
> 
> I am surprised that you don't mention any other problems - if /etc/ was
> really really gone, I'd expect loads of other problems.  Hence the
> somewhat paranoid checks...
> 
> Hope this helps
> 
> I usually use /mnt or media directories.  No offense taken, you are making a
> point.  But /proc directory is empty. weird!
> 
> well, the biggest problem was my system wouldn't finish boot.   boot ing
> proccess would hang around inittab error.   I used a livecd to look around and
> discovered no /etc.

Sounds like a bad case of filesystem corruption - you might find 
something in /lost+found.

What filesystem type is it? ext2/3 , reiser, xfs ?

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Re: Lost internet connection after upgrade

2007-06-22 Thread Frank McCormick
On Fri, 22 Jun 2007 18:51:17 -0400
Wayne Topa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> >   Back again...with a different problem. Apt-get this afternoon updated the
> > dhcp client package on my Sid installation and now I have lost my internet
> > connection. The boot shows it is making the proper connection to my cable
> > modem, but neither Firefox nor my email client connects. Both give me 
> > errors.
> > Fri Jun 22 17:27:14 2007: bound to 192.168.1.8 -- renewal in 34291 seconds.
> > Fri Jun 22 17:27:15 2007: done.

> 
> Don't know quite what you mean by the ^ above.  That is what I
> see, I just took an interface down then up again, when it _does_ work.
> 
Just that DHCP **seems** to be ok despite the fact the internet connection
doesn't work. That was an extract from the bootlog, not the result of lowering
then raising eth0


> Try pinging your cable modem.


   I will but every attempt at pinging gives me "network unreachable". The
non-working connection is on the other partition so every mail reply is
followed by 2 reboots.




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Re: /etc is gone

2007-06-22 Thread Karl E. Jorgensen
On Fri, Jun 22, 2007 at 09:49:47PM +, j j wrote:
> On 6/21/07, Bob McGowan <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
> 
> Karl E. Jorgensen wrote:
> > On Mon, Jun 18, 2007 at 08:54:30PM -0400, j j wrote:
> >> Hello
> >>
> >> I have been have trouble with my debian box(64 studio).  i just
> discovered that
> >> /etc directory is missing.  I dont think i deleted it, but it seems 
> that
> I must
> >> have.
> >
> > Perhaps not.
> >
> > Things to look at:
> >
> > - you haven't mounted something on /etc, have you? Although insanely
> >   stupid, pls don't be offended. When weird things happen, it's time to
> >   be insanely paranoid... (/proc/mounts should tell)
> >
> > - You haven't chroot'ed yourself, have you? (I know. Paranoia...)
> >
> > - Anything in the system logs? (things like re-mounting read-only or
> >   filesystem corruption would be very interesting...)
> >
> > I am surprised that you don't mention any other problems - if /etc/ was
> > really really gone, I'd expect loads of other problems.  Hence the
> > somewhat paranoid checks...
> 
> Not least of which would be no password file, hence no way to log
> in.  Plus, no rc scripts to bring the system up, either.  So, I'd suggest
> the system has booted into some sort of maintencance mode.  Or, you're
> simply in maintenance mode for some other reason, running from some sort 
> of
> RAM disk?
> 
> More info is needed, as printed during the startup, particularly just
> before the point where you get a shell prompt.
>
> where do find all that is printed before i get a shell prompt? 
> /var/log/?
> jj

Please don't top-post.

For the current kernel instance:
# dmesg | less
will catch the last 8k (or so) messages...

Debian normally saves that in /var/log/dmesg. This only covers from boot 
to start of sysklogd - stuff after that goes go syslog and is governed 
by your syslog configuration - normally /var/log/syslog.

But if you're missing /etc, then all bets are off...

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Re: /etc is gone

2007-06-22 Thread Bob McGowan

j j wrote:

where do find all that is printed before i get a shell prompt? /var/log/?
jj


Probably not, if you're not getting a normal boot.  In other words, if 
there are problems with a disk drive preventing the file system where 
/etc is from mounting (that's almost always /), then wherever /var/log 
is may also be having problems.


Besides, without / and /etc/fstab, how would the system be able to 
figure out where to find /var/log?


You'll just need to copy down on paper what you see on the screen.  You 
can also try typing 'mount' and a carriage return to see what it says is 
mounted.


Of course, this all assumes the system is having major problems early on 
in the boot process.  You have not provided, as yet, enough information 
to figure out where the system stands in the normal sequence.  Anything 
printed on your monitor and still visible could help.




On 6/21/07, *Bob McGowan* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> wrote:


Karl E. Jorgensen wrote:
 > On Mon, Jun 18, 2007 at 08:54:30PM -0400, j j wrote:
 >> Hello
 >>
 >> I have been have trouble with my debian box(64 studio).  i just
discovered that
 >> /etc directory is missing.  I dont think i deleted it, but it
seems that I must
 >> have.
 >
 > Perhaps not.
 >
 > Things to look at:
 >
 > - you haven't mounted something on /etc, have you? Although insanely
 >   stupid, pls don't be offended. When weird things happen, it's
time to
 >   be insanely paranoid... (/proc/mounts should tell)
 >
 > - You haven't chroot'ed yourself, have you? (I know. Paranoia...)
 >
 > - Anything in the system logs? (things like re-mounting read-only or
 >   filesystem corruption would be very interesting...)
 >
 > I am surprised that you don't mention any other problems - if
/etc/ was
 > really really gone, I'd expect loads of other problems.  Hence the
 > somewhat paranoid checks...

Not least of which would be no password file, hence no way to log
in.  Plus, no rc scripts to bring the system up, either.  So, I'd
suggest the system has booted into some sort of maintencance
mode.  Or, you're simply in maintenance mode for some other reason,
running from some sort of RAM disk?

More info is needed, as printed during the startup, particularly
just before the point where you get a shell prompt.

 >
 > Hope this helps

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Re: Lost internet connection after upgrade

2007-06-22 Thread Wayne Topa
Frank McCormick([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said:
> 
> 
>   Sending again as I don't **think** it worked the first time.
> If its a duplicate I apologize in advance.
> 
>   Back again...with a different problem. Apt-get this afternoon updated the
> dhcp client package on my Sid installation and now I have lost my internet
> connection. The boot shows it is making the proper connection to my cable
> modem, but neither Firefox nor my email client connects. Both give me errors.
> Installed now is dhcp3 3.0.5-1
> Everyting **seems** to be good on boot: this is the relevent extract from the
> boot log:
> 
> Fri Jun 22 17:27:09 2007: Running 0dns-down to make sure resolv.conf is
> ok...done. Fri Jun 22 17:27:09 2007: Setting up networking
> Fri Jun 22 17:27:09 2007: Configuring network interfaces...Internet Systems
> Consortium DHCP Client V3.0.5 Fri Jun 22 17:27:09 2007: Copyright 2004-2006
> Internet Systems Consortium. Fri Jun 22 17:27:09 2007: All rights reserved.
> Fri Jun 22 17:27:09 2007: For info, please visit http://www.isc.org/sw/dhcp/
> Fri Jun 22 17:27:09 2007: 
> Fri Jun 22 17:27:10 2007: Listening on LPF/eth0/00:0c:f1:90:91:ef
> Fri Jun 22 17:27:10 2007: Sending on   LPF/eth0/00:0c:f1:90:91:ef
> Fri Jun 22 17:27:10 2007: Sending on   Socket/fallback
> Fri Jun 22 17:27:14 2007: DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67
> interval 3 Fri Jun 22 17:27:14 2007: DHCPOFFER from 192.168.1.1
> Fri Jun 22 17:27:14 2007: DHCPREQUEST on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67
> Fri Jun 22 17:27:14 2007: DHCPACK from 192.168.1.1
> Fri Jun 22 17:27:14 2007: bound to 192.168.1.8 -- renewal in 34291 seconds.
> Fri Jun 22 17:27:15 2007: done.
> 

Don't know quite what you mean by the ^ above.  That is what I
see, I just took an interface down then up again, when it _does_ work.

The internet connection is up.  Try pinging your cable modem.

Wayne

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Re: Lost internet connection after upgrade

2007-06-22 Thread Frank McCormick
On Fri, 22 Jun 2007 15:26:04 -0700
Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > 
> >   Back again...with a different problem. Apt-get this afternoon updated the
> > dhcp client package on my Sid installation and now I have lost my internet
> > connection. The boot shows it is making the proper connection to my cable
> > modem, but neither Firefox nor my email client connects. Both give me 
> > errors.
> > Installed now is dhcp3 3.0.5-1
> > Everyting **seems** to be good on boot: this is the relevent extract from 
> > the
> > boot log:
> 
> well you're getting ip. what is the output of 
> 
> ifconfig eth0

   sudo ifconfig eth0
eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:0C:F1:90:91:EF  
  inet addr:192.168.1.8  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
  inet6 addr: fe80::20c:f1ff:fe90:91ef/64 Scope:Link
  UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:30 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:33 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 
  RX bytes:5265 (5.1 KiB)  TX bytes:2947 (2.8 KiB)

 ping www.google.ca
connect: Network is unreachable




> 
> what is the contents of /etc/resolv.conf
> 

  nameserver 192.168.1.1   ( I run a router before the cable modem )

> > 
> 
> weee its worth it though, IMO

  There are days I wonder :)

> 
> > Anybody else having the problem???
> 
> nope, but I updated yesterday, I think.
> 

   Well if you reboot you may be in the same boat :)

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Re: 2.6 kernel upgrade gives garbled video (w/o X11)

2007-06-22 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Jun 22, 1:20 pm, Andrew Sackville-West
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 22, 2007 at 06:12:42PM -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Hi all,
>
> > I recently attempted to upgrade my kernel from 2.4.27 to 2.6.18 on my
> > Sarge installation. First off, I had to change my sources.list to use
> > the Etch packages because of a dependency loop involving libc6.
>
> what was the problem? there are 2.6 series kernel in sarge (2.6.8 I
> think). You should be able to just do it without messing with Etch
> packages. and since you've started... you may need to finish moving up
> to Etch.
>
>
>
> > However, I did the kernel installation w/ "apt-get install kernel-
> > image-2.6-686" and the installation completed successfully w/ my Grub
> > configurations updated automatically.
>
> > When I restarted the machine and selected the 2.6 kernel, the boot
> > process proceeded fine (and I could read all the text scrolling by).
> > But when it came time to display the login prompt (terminal only, it's
> > a server, so there's no X11) the screen got all garbled. Essentially
> > all I can see is flickering black and white boxes covering the screen.
> > However, I can login and reboot the machine - I just can't see what
> > I'm typing.
>
> > Anyone have any suggestions on this one? I tried installing the kernel-
> > image-2.6-386 on a lark, but I still ran into the same problem. I'm
> > not passing any special kernel parameters on boot to the 2.4 kernel
> > either. What am I missing?
>
> I think there is some new console-font stuff happening. You can see it
> with a successful post-sarge boot .. the screen flickers while it sets
> up the consoles. Have you tried booting single-user mode?
>
> A

No, I haven't tried booting into single user mode yet. That's a good
idea.

As for the error, I was getting this error when trying to upgrade the
kernel:

>>kernel-image-2.6-386: Depends: linux-image-2.6-486 but it is not going to be 
>>installed
>>libc6-dev: Depends: libc6 (= 2.5-9+b1) but 2.3.6.ds1-13 is to be installed

Then, I get this error when trying to upgrade libc6:

>>WARNING: POSIX threads library NPTL requires kernel version
>>2.6.1 or later. If you use a kernel 2.4, please upgrade it
>>before installing glibc.
>>dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libc6_2.5-9+b1_i386.deb 
>>(--unpack):

Would it be a good idea to change my sources back to Sarge, apt-get
update and then try installing the 2.6 kernel package again?
Essentially, some packages I'd like to install seem to be giving me
libc6 errors, so the whole point of the kernel upgrade was to be able
to upgrade libc6.

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Re: Lost internet connection after upgrade

2007-06-22 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Jun 22, 2007 at 05:56:23PM -0400, Frank McCormick wrote:
> 
[...]
> 
>   Back again...with a different problem. Apt-get this afternoon updated the
> dhcp client package on my Sid installation and now I have lost my internet
> connection. The boot shows it is making the proper connection to my cable
> modem, but neither Firefox nor my email client connects. Both give me errors.
> Installed now is dhcp3 3.0.5-1
> Everyting **seems** to be good on boot: this is the relevent extract from the
> boot log:
> 
> Fri Jun 22 17:27:09 2007: Running 0dns-down to make sure resolv.conf is
> ok...done. Fri Jun 22 17:27:09 2007: Setting up networking
> Fri Jun 22 17:27:09 2007: Configuring network interfaces...Internet Systems
> Consortium DHCP Client V3.0.5 Fri Jun 22 17:27:09 2007: Copyright 2004-2006
> Internet Systems Consortium. Fri Jun 22 17:27:09 2007: All rights reserved.
> Fri Jun 22 17:27:09 2007: For info, please visit http://www.isc.org/sw/dhcp/
> Fri Jun 22 17:27:09 2007: 
> Fri Jun 22 17:27:10 2007: Listening on LPF/eth0/00:0c:f1:90:91:ef
> Fri Jun 22 17:27:10 2007: Sending on   LPF/eth0/00:0c:f1:90:91:ef
> Fri Jun 22 17:27:10 2007: Sending on   Socket/fallback
> Fri Jun 22 17:27:14 2007: DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67
> interval 3 Fri Jun 22 17:27:14 2007: DHCPOFFER from 192.168.1.1
> Fri Jun 22 17:27:14 2007: DHCPREQUEST on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67
> Fri Jun 22 17:27:14 2007: DHCPACK from 192.168.1.1
> Fri Jun 22 17:27:14 2007: bound to 192.168.1.8 -- renewal in 34291 seconds.
> Fri Jun 22 17:27:15 2007: done.
> 

well you're getting ip. what is the output of 

ifconfig eth0

what is the contents of /etc/resolv.conf

what are the results of pinging by ip?


> The dangers of running Sid :)
> 

weee its worth it though, IMO

> Anybody else having the problem???

nope, but I updated yesterday, I think.

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Re: Waking up server during boot prevents NFS mounts after upgrade to etch

2007-06-22 Thread Bob Proulx
Malte Forkel wrote:
> After upgrading the clients from sarge to etch, mounting NFS volumes
> does not work anymore if the server wasn't up already.

I think that should be considered a bug.  Traditional behavior should
have the clients block waiting for the server to come online and then
continue normally after that.  If you agree then please file a bug.

This might help.  Are you aware of the NFS mount option 'bg'?

  bg
If the first NFS mount attempt times out, retry the mount in the
background.  After a mount operation is backgrounded, all
subsequent mounts on the same NFS server will be backgrounded
immediately, without first attempting the mount.  A missing mount
point is treated as a timeout, to allow for nested NFS mounts.

This is a traditional method of breaking circular dependencies.  But
it might help as a workaround to the behavior that you are reporting.

> It takes the server about 1 minute to boot. If the server is up before 
> the client boots, NFS mounts work fine.

Lots of things changed.  I did not try to recreate your bad behavior
but it reads like a bug to me.

> With or without asynchronous mounting. So, may be I have some sort
> of a timing problem?

Using sync versus async is completely different and unrelated.  That
has to do with the protocol used after the clients have mounted.

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Lost internet connection after upgrade

2007-06-22 Thread Frank McCormick


  Sending again as I don't **think** it worked the first time.
If its a duplicate I apologize in advance.

  Back again...with a different problem. Apt-get this afternoon updated the
dhcp client package on my Sid installation and now I have lost my internet
connection. The boot shows it is making the proper connection to my cable
modem, but neither Firefox nor my email client connects. Both give me errors.
Installed now is dhcp3 3.0.5-1
Everyting **seems** to be good on boot: this is the relevent extract from the
boot log:

Fri Jun 22 17:27:09 2007: Running 0dns-down to make sure resolv.conf is
ok...done. Fri Jun 22 17:27:09 2007: Setting up networking
Fri Jun 22 17:27:09 2007: Configuring network interfaces...Internet Systems
Consortium DHCP Client V3.0.5 Fri Jun 22 17:27:09 2007: Copyright 2004-2006
Internet Systems Consortium. Fri Jun 22 17:27:09 2007: All rights reserved.
Fri Jun 22 17:27:09 2007: For info, please visit http://www.isc.org/sw/dhcp/
Fri Jun 22 17:27:09 2007: 
Fri Jun 22 17:27:10 2007: Listening on LPF/eth0/00:0c:f1:90:91:ef
Fri Jun 22 17:27:10 2007: Sending on   LPF/eth0/00:0c:f1:90:91:ef
Fri Jun 22 17:27:10 2007: Sending on   Socket/fallback
Fri Jun 22 17:27:14 2007: DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67
interval 3 Fri Jun 22 17:27:14 2007: DHCPOFFER from 192.168.1.1
Fri Jun 22 17:27:14 2007: DHCPREQUEST on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67
Fri Jun 22 17:27:14 2007: DHCPACK from 192.168.1.1
Fri Jun 22 17:27:14 2007: bound to 192.168.1.8 -- renewal in 34291 seconds.
Fri Jun 22 17:27:15 2007: done.

The dangers of running Sid :)

Anybody else having the problem???

Thank god Dapper still works :)

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Re: Scripting Apt-Get (pop-up screens, e.g. with kernel updates)

2007-06-22 Thread Bob Proulx
Karl E. Jorgensen wrote:
> # DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive apt-get install whatever

In addition to this to be truly batch mode you may want to set
DEBCONF_ADMIN_EMAIL="" too.

  # DEBCONF_ADMIN_EMAIL="" DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive apt-get install -q -y 
whatever

That will prevent email from being generated for those operations that
would generate it.

Bob


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Re: Why stunnel3?

2007-06-22 Thread Bob Proulx
vince wrote:
> Two versions of stunnel are available - stunnel3 and stunnel4.  Normally
> I would expect the higher numbered version to be the most recent and
> better supported version.

Agreed.  But this is up to the package maintainer.  You might want to
file a BTS requesting it.

> Form some reason I don't know, I'm running stunnel3 and 
> # apt-cache show stunnel
> reports
> Version: 2:3.26-dfsg-2
> Replaces: stunnel4
> 
> Why has stunnel3 replaced stunnel4 on Debian?

Both packages replace or conflict with each other.  This makes apt
happy when moving from one to the other.  I do not read that as a
statement that stunnel v3 is the progression beyond v4.

> Which is really the preferred version of stunnel?

I always use stunnel4.

Bob


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Re: /etc is gone

2007-06-22 Thread j j

where do find all that is printed before i get a shell prompt? /var/log/?
jj

On 6/21/07, Bob McGowan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Karl E. Jorgensen wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 18, 2007 at 08:54:30PM -0400, j j wrote:
>> Hello
>>
>> I have been have trouble with my debian box(64 studio).  i just
discovered that
>> /etc directory is missing.  I dont think i deleted it, but it seems
that I must
>> have.
>
> Perhaps not.
>
> Things to look at:
>
> - you haven't mounted something on /etc, have you? Although insanely
>   stupid, pls don't be offended. When weird things happen, it's time to
>   be insanely paranoid... (/proc/mounts should tell)
>
> - You haven't chroot'ed yourself, have you? (I know. Paranoia...)
>
> - Anything in the system logs? (things like re-mounting read-only or
>   filesystem corruption would be very interesting...)
>
> I am surprised that you don't mention any other problems - if /etc/ was
> really really gone, I'd expect loads of other problems.  Hence the
> somewhat paranoid checks...

Not least of which would be no password file, hence no way to log
in.  Plus, no rc scripts to bring the system up, either.  So, I'd suggest
the system has booted into some sort of maintencance mode.  Or, you're
simply in maintenance mode for some other reason, running from some sort of
RAM disk?

More info is needed, as printed during the startup, particularly just
before the point where you get a shell prompt.

>
> Hope this helps

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Re: Sound card not working

2007-06-22 Thread Mike McCarty

Chris Lale wrote:


dmesg indicates that a Via chipset has been detected:
Via 686a/8233/8235 audio driver 1.9.1-ac3

The Alsa Soundcard Matrix[1] indicates that this is built into the motherboard
("VIA southbridge AC97 audio").


I just talked on the 'phone, and this is not a built-in card.
It is some version or other of a SoundBlaster.

Anyway, I'll have a look and get back next week.

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Re: /etc is gone

2007-06-22 Thread j j

Hi
I usually use /mnt or media directories.  No offense taken, you are making a
point.  But /proc directory is empty. weird!

well, the biggest problem was my system wouldn't finish boot.   boot ing
proccess would hang around inittab error.   I used a livecd to look around
and discovered no /etc.
jj



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On Mon, Jun 18, 2007 at 08:54:30PM -0400, j j wrote:
> Hello
>
> I have been have trouble with my debian box(64 studio).  i just
discovered that
> /etc directory is missing.  I dont think i deleted it, but it seems that
I must
> have.

Perhaps not.

Things to look at:

- you haven't mounted something on /etc, have you? Although insanely
  stupid, pls don't be offended. When weird things happen, it's time to
  be insanely paranoid... (/proc/mounts should tell)

- You haven't chroot'ed yourself, have you? (I know. Paranoia...)

- Anything in the system logs? (things like re-mounting read-only or
  filesystem corruption would be very interesting...)

I am surprised that you don't mention any other problems - if /etc/ was
really really gone, I'd expect loads of other problems.  Hence the
somewhat paranoid checks...

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Lost internet connection after upgrade

2007-06-22 Thread Frank McCormick
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  Back again...with a different problem. Apt-get this afternoon updated the
dhcp client package on my Sid installation and now I have lost my internet
connection. The boot shows it is making the proper connection to my cable
modem, but neither Firefox nor my email client connects. Both give me errors.
Installed now is dhcp3 3.0.5-1
Everyting **seems** to be good on boot: this is the relevent extract from the
boot log:

Fri Jun 22 17:27:09 2007: Running 0dns-down to make sure resolv.conf is
ok...done. Fri Jun 22 17:27:09 2007: Setting up networking
Fri Jun 22 17:27:09 2007: Configuring network interfaces...Internet Systems
Consortium DHCP Client V3.0.5 Fri Jun 22 17:27:09 2007: Copyright 2004-2006
Internet Systems Consortium. Fri Jun 22 17:27:09 2007: All rights reserved.
Fri Jun 22 17:27:09 2007: For info, please visit http://www.isc.org/sw/dhcp/
Fri Jun 22 17:27:09 2007: 
Fri Jun 22 17:27:10 2007: Listening on LPF/eth0/00:0c:f1:90:91:ef
Fri Jun 22 17:27:10 2007: Sending on   LPF/eth0/00:0c:f1:90:91:ef
Fri Jun 22 17:27:10 2007: Sending on   Socket/fallback
Fri Jun 22 17:27:14 2007: DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67
interval 3 Fri Jun 22 17:27:14 2007: DHCPOFFER from 192.168.1.1
Fri Jun 22 17:27:14 2007: DHCPREQUEST on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67
Fri Jun 22 17:27:14 2007: DHCPACK from 192.168.1.1
Fri Jun 22 17:27:14 2007: bound to 192.168.1.8 -- renewal in 34291 seconds.
Fri Jun 22 17:27:15 2007: done.

The dangers of running Sid :)

Anybody else having the problem???

Thank god Dapper still works :)

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Frank

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Re: Is there any chance to find out in which package the start-stop-daemon

2007-06-22 Thread Tod Detre
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> Is there any chance to find out in which package the start-stop-daemon
> is w/o reinstalling the whole debian distribution and hopeing that it
> will be installed automatically?

I really like the program apt-file. It allows you to search all of the
packages available on your apt sources for a specific file, even if
they're not installed.

Regards,
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Re: /etc is gone

2007-06-22 Thread j j

Hi Daniel

I will..

Thanks

jj

On 6/19/07, Daniel James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Hi jj,

> I have been have trouble with my debian box(64 studio).  i just
discovered
> that /etc directory is missing.

I would recommend a clean install, because /etc stores most of your
configuration files. Without that directory, you're going to have a lot
of trouble.

Cheers!

Daniel



Re: /etc is gone

2007-06-22 Thread j j

no ssh.  i will evaluatate firewall.
thanks

On 6/19/07, Christopher Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


On 2007-06-19, j j <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I have only made backups of /home, but nothing else.  I havent found
> anything in /tmp nor /lost+found.  i am not sure how i could have been
> attacked; maybe when I boot winXP on the same box.

Do you have any services running (ssh, apache, etc) and/or any ports
open?  I would consider re-evaluation of firewall rules, etc, after the
re-install whether or not you've been attacked.

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Re: ssh on lan by hostname instead of dynamic ip

2007-06-22 Thread Tod Detre
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> Is there a way to use ssh and rsync using hostname instead of ip
> address. It seems to me I've had this working once or twice, but then
> it stops.

You could set up your dhcp server to talk to a dns server and do your
hostnames automatically, but it would require a lot of setup.

I think the easiest thing would be if you're machines are set up with
ipv6 and are on the same lan, just use the ipv6 local address. you can
get this by doing ifconfig and using the inet6 addr. It should start
with fe80. Yeah, ipv6 address are long and hard to remember, but you can
copy and paste and put it in your script. The address is based on the
MAC address of your card and so shouldn't change unless you change
hardware. Use ping6 to see if the machines can ping each other.


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Re: ssh on lan by hostname instead of dynamic ip

2007-06-22 Thread Bob McGowan

Chris Lale wrote:

BartlebyScrivener wrote:

Hello,

I use unison and rsync on my home LAN. Everything works fine as long
as I use ip addresses, for example,

ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED]

But my router (on home LAN) assigns dynamic ip addresses. So my
scripts don't work if the router happens to assign a different address
that day to one of my machines.

Is there a way to use ssh and rsync using hostname instead of ip
address. It seems to me I've had this working once or twice, but then
it stops.



Not sure if dnsmasq[1] might help - it can serve the names of local machines
which are not in the global DNS. I've looked at it but never actually used it
myself.

[1] http://www.thekelleys.org.uk/dnsmasq/doc.html




If you'd rather not set up dnsmasq or need something quicker ;) you may 
be able to set the router to assign the same IP to the system using the 
MAC address.  I have a DLink that allows this.  You then put the IP and 
host name in your /etc/hosts file.


From what I can see in the man page for dnsmasq, it would basically do 
the same thing as the above, it just puts the configuration onto your 
local server rather than the router (my guess;-)


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Re: Sound card not working

2007-06-22 Thread Mike McCarty

Mike McCarty wrote:

[having problems]

I don't have direct access to the machine, but I'm going
over to my friend's house this weekend, and I'll get back
here next week early with results.

Thanks to all who responded.

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Re: ssh on lan by hostname instead of dynamic ip

2007-06-22 Thread Wayne Topa
Chris Lale([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said:
> BartlebyScrivener wrote:
> > Hello,
> > 
> > I use unison and rsync on my home LAN. Everything works fine as long
> > as I use ip addresses, for example,
> > 
> > ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 
> > But my router (on home LAN) assigns dynamic ip addresses. So my
> > scripts don't work if the router happens to assign a different address
> > that day to one of my machines.
> > 
> > Is there a way to use ssh and rsync using hostname instead of ip
> > address. It seems to me I've had this working once or twice, but then
> > it stops.
> > 
> 
> Not sure if dnsmasq[1] might help - it can serve the names of local machines
> which are not in the global DNS. I've looked at it but never actually used it
> myself.
> 
> [1] http://www.thekelleys.org.uk/dnsmasq/doc.html

Thats correct Chris, dnsmasq is what I use and I connect via hostname with
ssh on the lan.  

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Re: hddtemp value

2007-06-22 Thread michael

Quoting Pol Hallen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


Hi folks :-)

Which value hddtemp show? (about my ata disks, between 45-55 C)

Is it correct? Or I should worry?



45-55 C seems a little hot. They will probalby work for you but your  
drives will probably die sooner than later. Either they are too close  
together and/or you need more direct fans on your drives.
I think normal operating temps for drives is between 35 and 40 C.  
perhaps check with your drive manufacturer and check the recommended  
operating temps.


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Re: lost sound after dist-upgrade

2007-06-22 Thread Gary Parker
Kushal Kumaran  it.iitb.ac.in> writes:
> Check your xmms preferences.  Is xmms using OSS or alsa output?  OSS
> is deprecated.

OK.  I changed the xmms output plugin from oss to alsa.  Now I don't
get an error message, but I also get no sound. 

>> I notice that I don't seem to have any alsa packages installed.  None were
>> removed during the upgrade.
> 
> I don't understand.  If they weren't removed during upgrade and you
> don't have them now, then you didn't have them installed before.
> alsa-base and alsa-utils should be the packages you want.  Installing
> alsa-utils gets you alsaconf and alsamixer.

Yes, this is where I am confused.  I read that Debian with a 2.6
kernel loads alsa modules by default?  I was surprised that I
didn't have any alsa packages installed since I had sound before 
switching from the 2.6.8 kernel to the 2.6.18 kernel.  So, I was 
hesitant to install them, fearing I might make things worse.

Fortunately, after installing alsa-base (which required
linux-sound-base lsof) and alsa-utils, I have sound again.

I notice that the module list is almost the same.  Now snd_intel8x0
and snd_ac97_codec are not loaded.  Maybe that was part of the problem.
Also, /dev/dsp and /dev/mixer are now present, for whatever that is worth.

Thanks.

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Re: apt-caher or approx?

2007-06-22 Thread Tod Detre
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go an manually delete a file because it was corrupt, but apt-cacher
wouldn't download a new version.

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Re: Slightly annoyed question about Debian package system

2007-06-22 Thread Tyler MacDonald
Dirk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is there any chance to find out in which package the start-stop-daemon
> is w/o reinstalling the whole debian distribution and hopeing that it
> will be installed automatically?

Man, that question doesnt sound slightly annoyed, it sounds downright
frusturated ;-)

dpkg -S start-stop-daemon

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Re: Is there any chance to find out in which package the start-stop-daemon

2007-06-22 Thread Mike Bird
On Friday 22 June 2007 13:41, Dirk wrote:
> Is there any chance to find out in which package the start-stop-daemon
> is w/o reinstalling the whole debian distribution and hopeing that it
> will be installed automatically?

In my Etch system, start-stop-daemon comes from the dpkg package:

$ dpkg -S $(which start-stop-daemon)
dpkg: /sbin/start-stop-daemon
$

The answer is the "dpkg" before the colon.

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2007-06-22 Thread Dirk
Is there any chance to find out in which package the start-stop-daemon
is w/o reinstalling the whole debian distribution and hopeing that it
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2007-06-22 Thread Dirk
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will
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Re: Debian default ssh configuration problem with public/private key checking

2007-06-22 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Jun 22, 2007 at 07:14:15PM +, - Tong - wrote:
> Hi, 
> 
> I'm trying to setup Debian to accept my remote ssh
> login. No problem with that, but I'm facing a
> configuration problem: 
> 
> It doesn't seem to be able to handle/accept the public/private key
> checking, i.e.,what sourceforge.net is doing [1], but insists on checking
> login password [2], which is not a recommended practice.
> 
> This is a vanilla sshd configuration. I.e., everything from Debian default. 
> What changes should I make to enable the public/private key Authentication?

from /etc/ssh/sshd_config:

RSAAuthentication yes
PubkeyAuthentication yes

[]

# To enable empty passwords, change to yes (NOT RECOMMENDED)
PermitEmptyPasswords no

# Change to no to disable s/key passwords
ChallengeResponseAuthentication no

# Change to yes to enable tunnelled clear text passwords
PasswordAuthentication no


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Re: Connect to DOS box

2007-06-22 Thread John K Masters
On 15:09 Fri 22 Jun , Mike McCarty wrote:
> John K Masters wrote:
> 
> [snip]
> 
> >However, to transfer the files I have to use a floppy disc. How can I
> >connect the 2 boxes? The DOS box cannot boot from CD, has no installed
> >OS (boots into network off floppy) and has only a serial connection
> >spare. The network is 10BASE-2 thin ethernet.
> 
> Smart Boot Manager can probably boot your machine from CDROM.
> 
Thanks, I'll try that. If I can boot a live CD I'm halfway there.

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Re: Connect to DOS box

2007-06-22 Thread John K Masters
On 13:07 Fri 22 Jun , Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 22, 2007 at 08:58:33PM +0100, John K Masters wrote:


> > However, to transfer the files I have to use a floppy disc. How can I
> > connect the 2 boxes? The DOS box cannot boot from CD, has no installed
> > OS (boots into network off floppy) and has only a serial connection
> > spare. The network is 10BASE-2 thin ethernet.

> 
> if you can somehow get on the same ethernet network, you might have
> luck with ncpfs, which provides some netware protocol stuff. I use it
> on one of my networks to connect to a point-of-sale system server that
> runs netware. 
> 
> otherwise I think you're in for some kind of null-modem thing off the
> serial port but don't ask me how...
> 
> A

Looks like that could be a partial solution. There is a spare terminal
in my office and the 'IT Manager' is on 2 weeks leave.

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Re: mplayer problem

2007-06-22 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Jun 22, 2007 at 09:20:56AM -0400, Thomas H. George wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 20, 2007 at 10:02:12AM -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
> > Thomas H. George wrote:
> > >mplayer worked once, then no more.  Using the iceape browser I went to a 
> > >www.whyy.org and connected to the sound stream - no problem.  Then 
[...]

> > 
> No.  When I entered this from iceape the mplayer window comes up and
> immediately says "Stopped".  If I click play mplayer reports "Getting
> playlist..." followed immediately by "Stopped".
> 


are you using sid? All my sid boxes recently showed this behavior with
the plug-in. You have to right-click the plugin-screen (the part that
comes up when youclick a link) to get a context-menu. select
Configure. then pick a video output. I used x11 and it worked for me.

hth

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Re: compatible UPS - solved

2007-06-22 Thread csanyipal
On Fri, Jun 22, 2007 at 11:32:32AM -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
> csanyipal wrote:
> >On Fri, Jun 22, 2007 at 12:19:13PM +0200, csanyipal wrote:
> >
> >>Is this UPS supported by Etch?
> >>
> >>Inform Guard 600A (600VA)/Line Interractive/AVR
> >>
> >>Any advices will be appreciated!
> >
> >Sorry for this mail abowe.
> >I find this link, which solve my problem:
> >http://www.apcupsd.org/
> >
> 
> And that site says that apcupsd supports an Inform Guard 600A?

No, I actually haven't an Inform Guard 600A, but will to by some UPS. 
On that site I find that, that an APC Back-UPS is supported by apcupsd. 
So I decide that, that I should to by such an UPS. :)

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Debian default ssh configuration problem with public/private key checking

2007-06-22 Thread - Tong -
Hi, 

I'm trying to setup Debian to accept my remote ssh
login. No problem with that, but I'm facing a
configuration problem: 

It doesn't seem to be able to handle/accept the public/private key
checking, i.e.,what sourceforge.net is doing [1], but insists on checking
login password [2], which is not a recommended practice.

This is a vanilla sshd configuration. I.e., everything from Debian default. 
What changes should I make to enable the public/private key Authentication?

thanks

[1] Correct log to ssh into sourceforge.net:

 debug1: ssh_rsa_verify: signature correct
 [...]
 debug1: Authentications that can continue:
publickey,password
 debug1: Next authentication method: publickey
 debug1: Offering public key: /home/dsl/.ssh/id_rsa
 debug1: Server accepts key: pkalg ssh-rsa blen 149

[2] My own Debian sshd server:

 debug1: ssh_rsa_verify: signature correct
 [...]
 debug1: Authentications that can continue:
publickey,password,keyboard-interactive
 debug1: Next authentication method: publickey
 debug1: Offering public key: /home/dsl/.ssh/id_rsa
 debug1: Authentications that can continue:
publickey,password,keyboard-interactive



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Re: ssh on lan by hostname instead of dynamic ip

2007-06-22 Thread Chris Lale
BartlebyScrivener wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I use unison and rsync on my home LAN. Everything works fine as long
> as I use ip addresses, for example,
> 
> ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> But my router (on home LAN) assigns dynamic ip addresses. So my
> scripts don't work if the router happens to assign a different address
> that day to one of my machines.
> 
> Is there a way to use ssh and rsync using hostname instead of ip
> address. It seems to me I've had this working once or twice, but then
> it stops.
> 

Not sure if dnsmasq[1] might help - it can serve the names of local machines
which are not in the global DNS. I've looked at it but never actually used it
myself.

[1] http://www.thekelleys.org.uk/dnsmasq/doc.html


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Re: Connect to DOS box

2007-06-22 Thread Mike McCarty

John K Masters wrote:

[snip]


However, to transfer the files I have to use a floppy disc. How can I
connect the 2 boxes? The DOS box cannot boot from CD, has no installed
OS (boots into network off floppy) and has only a serial connection
spare. The network is 10BASE-2 thin ethernet.


Smart Boot Manager can probably boot your machine from CDROM.

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Re: 2.6 kernel upgrade gives garbled video (w/o X11)

2007-06-22 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Jun 22, 2007 at 06:12:42PM -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I recently attempted to upgrade my kernel from 2.4.27 to 2.6.18 on my
> Sarge installation. First off, I had to change my sources.list to use
> the Etch packages because of a dependency loop involving libc6.

what was the problem? there are 2.6 series kernel in sarge (2.6.8 I
think). You should be able to just do it without messing with Etch
packages. and since you've started... you may need to finish moving up
to Etch.

> However, I did the kernel installation w/ "apt-get install kernel-
> image-2.6-686" and the installation completed successfully w/ my Grub
> configurations updated automatically.
> 
> When I restarted the machine and selected the 2.6 kernel, the boot
> process proceeded fine (and I could read all the text scrolling by).
> But when it came time to display the login prompt (terminal only, it's
> a server, so there's no X11) the screen got all garbled. Essentially
> all I can see is flickering black and white boxes covering the screen.
> However, I can login and reboot the machine - I just can't see what
> I'm typing.
> 
> Anyone have any suggestions on this one? I tried installing the kernel-
> image-2.6-386 on a lark, but I still ran into the same problem. I'm
> not passing any special kernel parameters on boot to the 2.4 kernel
> either. What am I missing?
> 

I think there is some new console-font stuff happening. You can see it
with a successful post-sarge boot .. the screen flickers while it sets
up the consoles. Have you tried booting single-user mode? 

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Re: apt-caher or approx?

2007-06-22 Thread Sylvain Le Gall
On 22-06-2007, Andrés Ghigliazza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> We will soon have, 5 or 6 Debian boxs (servers and desktops), in our
> LAN. We would like to know, if it is better to use apt-cacher o approx
> for the updates.
>
> I couldn't find enough documentation of any of them, to see some
> features, before installing one.
>

I am using approx for a at least one year now. I used apt-proxy before.
Approx is fast and simple. There is almost no configuration (just add
the repository you want to use) and change the sources.list of your
host. Concerning speed, i move from apt-proxy which can achieve 1MBps
to approx (2-4MBps). 

I cannot compare with apt-cacher since i have never used it.

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Re: Connect to DOS box

2007-06-22 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Jun 22, 2007 at 08:58:33PM +0100, John K Masters wrote:
> At work I use a networked box that runs from Novell Netware on DOS v5.0
> This runs very old accounting software. The box itself is a P120 with
> 16 MB RAM and a small HD (about 128MB). No OS on the HD.

[...]

> 
> However, to transfer the files I have to use a floppy disc. How can I
> connect the 2 boxes? The DOS box cannot boot from CD, has no installed
> OS (boots into network off floppy) and has only a serial connection
> spare. The network is 10BASE-2 thin ethernet.

if you can somehow get on the same ethernet network, you might have
luck with ncpfs, which provides some netware protocol stuff. I use it
on one of my networks to connect to a point-of-sale system server that
runs netware. 

otherwise I think you're in for some kind of null-modem thing off the
serial port but don't ask me how...

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Connect to DOS box

2007-06-22 Thread John K Masters
At work I use a networked box that runs from Novell Netware on DOS v5.0
This runs very old accounting software. The box itself is a P120 with
16 MB RAM and a small HD (about 128MB). No OS on the HD.

I have managed to persuade the somewhat ITphobic management to provide me
a standalone box on which to analyse the daily data. Obviously I have
installed Debian Etch. Having written a few Python scripts to take the
output of printed reports and parse them into an OO spreadsheet it is
all coming together.

However, to transfer the files I have to use a floppy disc. How can I
connect the 2 boxes? The DOS box cannot boot from CD, has no installed
OS (boots into network off floppy) and has only a serial connection
spare. The network is 10BASE-2 thin ethernet.

Regards, John

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Alternative to netselect

2007-06-22 Thread - Tong -
Hi, 

I had been able to use netselect before. When I tried it again just now, all
sites end up with " ms 30 hops 0% ok". 

I'm wondering why netselect fails on me. My understanding is that netselect
uses ping, but ping works fine for me, but traceroute not. That means 
netselect actually depends on traceroute?

As more and more settings don't allow traceroute to go through, is there
any alternatives to netselect? 

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Re: how hot is my xeon?

2007-06-22 Thread Mike McCarty

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On 6/22/07, michael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


[...]... my box gets noisy and I'm trying to see
if it's temp related



as a precaution: clean all the air intakes, clean all heatsinks that
have a cooler on them
(it's just amazing what a difference cleaning can make)


Excellent advice.


and you can probably check the temperatures in the BIOS


In my experience, this is unreliable. Those sensors are
not accurate.

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Re: how hot is my xeon?

2007-06-22 Thread Jochen Schulz
michael:
>
> I've tried unsuccessfully to monitor my dual Xeon box but lm-sensors
> doesn't seem to detect anything. I've a Intel Server Board SE7320SO2
> with two 3. GHz Xeon chips. Anybody know how to get mobo/chip/internal
> temps (and pref fan speeds)... my box gets noisy and I'm trying to see
> if it's temp related

Have you tried 'acpi -t' yet?

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Re: MP3 to AMR

2007-06-22 Thread Andrew J. Barr
Kum Gabor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> No. Which package I need? And how ro convert!

1) Add the repository at http://www.debian-multmedia.org/ by adding the
following line to /etc/apt/sources.list as root:

deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org/ etch main

2) Add Christian Marillat's (repository maintainer) digital key by
running the following command as root:

# apt-key advanced --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-key 1F41B907

3) update your repository data:

# apt-get update

4) install ffmpeg command line tool:

# apt-get install ffmpeg

5) convert your file (as your regular user):

$ ffmpeg -i file.mp3 -ar 8000 -ac 1 -ab 7400 file.amr

This is an example only. I have never worked with the .amr format
before, and this is what I had to input for ffmpeg to successfully
convert an .mp3 file. Before that, it errored out a few times, saying
the AMR codec requires mono (-ac 1) and a sample rate of 8000 Hz (-ar
8000), and one of a certain list of bitrates (-ab 7400 (omit that
parameter and read the error message to get the list)). If you need to
tune additional parameters, read the documentation:

$ man ffmpeg

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> 
> G.
> 
> 


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apt-caher or approx?

2007-06-22 Thread Andrés Ghigliazza

Hi there,

We will soon have, 5 or 6 Debian boxs (servers and desktops), in our
LAN. We would like to know, if it is better to use apt-cacher o approx
for the updates.

I couldn't find enough documentation of any of them, to see some
features, before installing one.

Thanks very much,

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2.6 kernel upgrade gives garbled video (w/o X11)

2007-06-22 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi all,

I recently attempted to upgrade my kernel from 2.4.27 to 2.6.18 on my
Sarge installation. First off, I had to change my sources.list to use
the Etch packages because of a dependency loop involving libc6.
However, I did the kernel installation w/ "apt-get install kernel-
image-2.6-686" and the installation completed successfully w/ my Grub
configurations updated automatically.

When I restarted the machine and selected the 2.6 kernel, the boot
process proceeded fine (and I could read all the text scrolling by).
But when it came time to display the login prompt (terminal only, it's
a server, so there's no X11) the screen got all garbled. Essentially
all I can see is flickering black and white boxes covering the screen.
However, I can login and reboot the machine - I just can't see what
I'm typing.

Anyone have any suggestions on this one? I tried installing the kernel-
image-2.6-386 on a lark, but I still ran into the same problem. I'm
not passing any special kernel parameters on boot to the 2.4 kernel
either. What am I missing?

Thanks,
Aaron


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2.6 kernel upgrade gives garbled video (w/o X11)

2007-06-22 Thread amhoov
Hi all,

I recently attempted to upgrade my kernel from 2.4.27 to 2.6.18 on my
Sarge installation. First off, I had to change my sources.list to use
the Etch packages because of a dependency loop involving libc6.
However, I did the kernel installation w/ "apt-get install kernel-
image-2.6-686" and the installation completed successfully w/ my Grub
configurations updated automatically.

When I restarted the machine and selected the 2.6 kernel, the boot
process proceeded fine (and I could read all the text scrolling by).
But when it came time to display the login prompt (terminal only, it's
a server, so there's no X11) the screen got all garbled. Essentially
all I can see is flickering black and white boxes covering the screen.
However, I can login and reboot the machine - I just can't see what
I'm typing.

Anyone have any suggestions on this one? I tried installing the kernel-
image-2.6-386 on a lark, but I still ran into the same problem. I'm
not passing any special kernel parameters on boot to the 2.4 kernel
either. What am I missing?

Thanks,
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Re: MP3 to AMR

2007-06-22 Thread Kum Gabor
On Friday 22 June 2007 20:05, Andrew J. Barr wrote:
> Kum Gabor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hello All!
> >
> > I tried to find the way how to convert MP3 (or WAV) files to AMR (for
> > mobile phone), but I can't.
> > Can somebody help me? (I use Etch)
>
> Do you have the debian-multimedia.org repository installed?

No. Which package I need? And how ro convert!

Special thanks! :-D

G.


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Re: MP3 to AMR

2007-06-22 Thread Andrew J. Barr
Kum Gabor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hello All!
> 
> I tried to find the way how to convert MP3 (or WAV) files to AMR (for
> mobile phone), but I can't.
> Can somebody help me? (I use Etch)

Do you have the debian-multimedia.org repository installed?

> Regards,
> 
> Gabor
> 
> 


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Re: compatible UPS - solved

2007-06-22 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

csanyipal wrote:

On Fri, Jun 22, 2007 at 12:19:13PM +0200, csanyipal wrote:


Is this UPS supported by Etch?

Inform Guard 600A (600VA)/Line Interractive/AVR

Any advices will be appreciated!


Sorry for this mail abowe.
I find this link, which solve my problem:
http://www.apcupsd.org/



And that site says that apcupsd supports an Inform Guard 600A?

Hugo


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Re: hddtemp value

2007-06-22 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Pol Hallen wrote:

Hi folks :-)

Which value hddtemp show? (about my ata disks, between 45-55 C)

Is it correct? Or I should worry?



I use hddtemp and have 3 disks: 2 ATA and 1 USB mounted.

Hddtemp cannot read the USB mounted disk.

Hda is Maxtor 6Y080P0: 28°C and is older
Hdc is ST380011A: 39°C

The ambient temperature is about 26 degrees, so hda is almost certainly 
wrong and feeling the disks it would seem hdc is right.


Hugo


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(g)mplayer stops

2007-06-22 Thread Barry Samuels
I have two machines both running uptodate Debian Testing. They both  
have Mplayer and mozilla-mplayer installed.


One of them will play video from the web using Iceweasel and the other  
won't. On the one that won't I see a message saying 'buffering' then a  
short while later 'stopped'. Restarting produces the same 'stopped'  
message.


Also on the machine that doesn't play if I start gmplayer or mplayer  
from a console window the lines displayed are the same as on the  
machine that does work except for the last line which is:


Option Creating needs a parameter at line 1

and then back to the console prompt.

Any ideas please?

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Re: Connected to DHCP server but cannot access internet

2007-06-22 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
> Rehceb Rotkiv wrote:
> > I can suddenly no longer access the internet with my Debian Etch (default
> > kernel + updates). I get "Page not found" in Firefox and ping
> > www.somesite.com says "unknown host". ifdown eth0 && ifup eth0 and the
> > thereby invoked dhclient work as expected, that is I get a valid IP address
> > by the DHCP server etc.

On 21.06.07 14:57, Tod Detre wrote:
> What is in your /etc/resolv.conf? Do the correct name servers appear in
> there?
> 
> If you ping an ip address of a server, does it work? What about using an
> IP in firefox?
> 
> If the name server is set up correctly in /etc/resolv.conf, but you're
> not getting name resolution, make sure you can get to the nameserver.
> Try pinging it and/or traceroute ( traceroute -p 53  ).

do you have package 'resolvconf' installed? It should take care of your
resolv.conf file and configure it properly from interface-up-scripts.

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Re: how hot is my xeon?

2007-06-22 Thread ndemou

On 6/22/07, michael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

[...]... my box gets noisy and I'm trying to see
if it's temp related


as a precaution: clean all the air intakes, clean all heatsinks that
have a cooler on them
(it's just amazing what a difference cleaning can make)

and you can probably check the temperatures in the BIOS


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Re: Which device did I boot from?

2007-06-22 Thread Dallas Clement
On Fri, 2007-06-22 at 19:37 +0200, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote:
> > Dallas Clement wrote:
> > > I'm trying to determine which device I booted Linux from at run-time.
> > > I'd like to obtain the boot device's major/minor numbers or at least
> > > it's name while executing an init script from initramfs.
> 
> why?
> 

I'm trying to run a custom Linux install script from initramfs.  I want
to avoid the possibility of mistakenly installing Linux over the top of
my boot device. :)  Hence, needing to know with certainty which device I
booted Linux from.

I'm trying to boot Linux from a USB drive on a system that may have
other USB, IDE, SCSI drives present, each of which could possibly have
GRUB/Linux already installed.

Ideally I would like to determine the root device without ever having
mounted any other devices.

If I know which is the boot device, I can present a menu of choices
excluding the boot device on which Linux can be installed which would
involve partitioning, formatting, and copying files.


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Re: how hot is my xeon?

2007-06-22 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

michael wrote:

On Fri, 2007-06-22 at 16:36 +0200, Pol Hallen wrote:

I've tried unsuccessfully to monitor my dual Xeon box but lm-sensors
doesn't seem to detect anything. 

Do u have the i2c kernel modules?
 
Pol





[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/Fortran$ sudo lsmod|grep -i i2c
i2c_dev 8548  0
i2c_i8017468  0
i2c_core   19680  3 i2c_dev,nvidia,i2c_i801





Do you have lm-sensors installed?
What does the 'sensors' command show?

Hugo


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Re: Which device did I boot from?

2007-06-22 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
> Dallas Clement wrote:
> > I'm trying to determine which device I booted Linux from at run-time.
> > I'd like to obtain the boot device's major/minor numbers or at least
> > it's name while executing an init script from initramfs.

why?

On 21.06.07 13:07, Felipe Sateler wrote:
> I don't know if that is available at initramfs, but there is /proc/cmdline,
> which should tell you what device was used (root=/dev/blah)

actually it will say something like root=302, which means that is was device
with major 3 and minot 2  (/dev/hda2).
But it's not the boot device...

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Re: Turning off the %^&* scroll wheel

2007-06-22 Thread Bob McGowan

Curt Howland wrote:

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On Friday 22 June 2007, Jonathan Kaye <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to 
say:

The mouse/touchpad is controlled in /etc/X11/xorg.conf. Look for a
Section "InputDevice" and if you see something like this:
 Option  "ZAxisMapping"  "4 5"
then comment it out. That should get rid of the scrollwheel
behaviour.


Mr. Kaye, many thanks. Unfortunately, there is no such option in the 
two "mouse" related sections:


==
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Configured Mouse"
Driver  "mouse"
Option  "CorePointer"
Option  "Device""/dev/input/mice"
Option  "Protocol"  "ExplorerPS/2"
Option  "Emulate3Buttons"   "true"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Synaptics Touchpad"
Driver  "synaptics"
Option  "SendCoreEvents""true"
Option  "Device""/dev/psaux"
Option  "Protocol"  "auto-dev"
Option  "HorizScrollDelta"  "0"
EndSection
=

I tried reconfiguring and changing to imps rather than explorerps2, no 
change.


Is there another possibility?




Which of these two is actually used in the 'ServerLayout' section? 
Whichever it is, you could try switching it to the other and see what 
happens.


Or if both are there (as they are for my laptop) you could try 
commenting one out to see which is actually defining the wheel.  Then 
edit the conf file to change the 'Option "Protocol"' for that device to 
be some other descriptor.


Another thought, based on output from 'gpm -t help', the imps name is 
not listed, but imps2 is.  But it seems to include some sort of wheel 
functionality.  So you might try a very basic interface, such as 'ps2' 
or 'fups2' (described as being used for 'broken' PS/2 mice).


Though the names are from gpm they should match names used by X11, since 
the two have to (and do in my experience) work together.


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MP3 to AMR

2007-06-22 Thread Kum Gabor
Hello All!

I tried to find the way how to convert MP3 (or WAV) files to AMR (for mobile 
phone), but I can't.
Can somebody help me? (I use Etch)

Regards,

Gabor


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Re: [SOLVED] kqemu on Sid

2007-06-22 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

David Baron wrote:
On Tuesday 19 June 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

Hi,


I installed qemu on Sid.

But Sid's kqemu is backlevelled: it depends on a non-existing 2.6.18
kernel.

So I compiled/installed
http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/qemu/kqemu-1.3.0pre11.tar.gz
and that went uneventful.

*However...* when I try to boot XP with:

qemu -m 256 -localtime -hda /hda7/xp.img -cdrom /dev/cdrom -fda 
/dev/fd0


it hangs the whole system absolutely solid: stops all the 
clocks+applets

and needs the red button.

Without kqemu it boots XP.

Does anybody run qemu with kqemu installed successfully?

Thanks for the replies.

However you cannot use the kqemu Sid package because that depends 
upon a

non-existent kernel.


The source package is also on Sid. Try installing that using m-a (the 
Debian way but I have also numerous times used sources from the site 
and compiled manually and simply copied the .ko to it correct place), 
change that modprobed/kqemu file and try again. I do not have XP 
images around to try but qemu runs most everything.


For an alternative, you might try virtualbox (they have an opensource 
version, a free binary and a paid product). Runs some stuff better 
then qemu, somewhat different approach. But it does not run everyting 
qemu does.






I saw that: it is kqemu_1.3.0~pre11.orig.tar.gz. But the kqemu I 
installed with is kqemu-1.3.0pre11.tar.gz. Seems to me to be the very 
same thing. I was going to try a different kernel, I am now running

Linux debian 2.6.21-1-k7 #1 SMP PREEMPT
and I was going to backup to 2.6.18-k7 which no longer is in Sid but I 
kept the .debs in my repository.
It's more a question of "this ought to work" than running XP because I 
found out what I needed to know by now.


So kqemu-1.3.0pre11 (the latest version) hangs the system solid with 
2.6.21-1-k7, the Debian stock kernel. But I have modified that kernel 
with 2.6.21-ck2 from here:

http://members.optusnet.com.au/ckolivas/kernel/

Going back to the plain 2.6.18-4-k7 Debian kernel and reinstalling kqemu 
all errors disappear and XP initiates "normally" (i.e. M$'s version of 
"normal").


So the problem lies either in 2.6.21-1-k7 or in the -ck modification.



In neither. The 2.6.21-1-k7 kernel kqemu fails with has been modified by 
me to turn *off* paravirtualization. Defined as follows:



Paravirtualization is a way of running multiple instances of
Linux on the same machine, under a hypervisor.  This option
changes the kernel so it can modify itself when it is run
under a hypervisor, improving performance significantly.
However, when run without a hypervisor the kernel is
theoretically slower.  If in doubt, say N.

The reason I do that is because with PARAVIRT_CONFIG *set* the 
installation of the nvidia closed source driver will fail.


So I turned it off and... qemu hangs on execution.

There is an alternative way of using the unmodified 
linux-image-2.6.21-1-k7/686 and instead modifying the 
linux-kbuild-2.6.21 .deb and installing the nvidia driver by hand and 
twiddling some things.


The gory details are here:
http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=89844

So qemu hangs in kernel 2.6.21 if you turned off paravirtualization and 
are using kqemu. End of story.


Have a good day.

Hugo























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OT: Say NO to the Microsoft Office format as an ISO standard

2007-06-22 Thread Manon Metten

Hi,

This urgent request was posted on [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>by Hagar de l'Est
< [EMAIL PROTECTED] >.
Is not exactly Debian, but I think also of great importance for all of us.

Please sign the petition here: http://www.noooxml.org/petition.
(Cookies have to be enabled for this site.)

Thanks, Manon.


Waking up server during boot prevents NFS mounts after upgrade to etch

2007-06-22 Thread Malte Forkel
Because my server is not running all the time, clients that want to 
mount NFS volumes use a small initscript during boot to wake up the 
server if necessary. After upgrading the clients from sarge to etch, 
mounting NFS volumes does not work anymore if the server wasn't up already.


The initscript is called /etc/rcS.d/S41wakeupserver during boot, i.e. 
after networking and before portmap and mountnfs.sh. It uses ping to 
wait until the network is accessible. Then, if ping still fails because 
the server does not respond, wakeonlan is used to wake up the server. 
Then, again ping is used to wait until the server responds - or the 
operation times out.


I understand that in etch, NFS mounts are performed as soon as the 
interface becomes available. But disabling asynchronous mounts 
(ASYNCMOUNTNFS=no) does not help. It just keeps the clients from waiting 
for 90 seconds before giving up on the NFS mounts.


It takes the server about 1 minute to boot. If the server is up before 
the client boots, NFS mounts work fine. With or without asynchronous 
mounting. So, may be I have some sort of a timing problem?


What has changed from sarge to etch that makes my NFS mounts fail? How 
do I have to change my initscript?


Thanks in advance, Malte


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Re: Scripting Apt-Get (pop-up screens, e.g. with kernel updates)

2007-06-22 Thread Michael Matthews

Awesome, I changed that but I had to select "Noninteractive," and "Ignore
questions with priority lower than ," and this worked to keep the
kernel boot screen off.

Thank you!

On 6/22/07, Karl E. Jorgensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


On Fri, Jun 22, 2007 at 09:23:32AM -0400, Michael Matthews wrote:
> All,
>
> I am wondering if anyone can tell me if there's an easy way, when using
> `apt-get upgrade`, to get around the pop-up configuration screens that
occur
> with some updates.  One example of this is with a kernel update.  It
appears
> that the kernel update wants to inform you that you should reboot soon,
and
> unfortunately the colorful blue and red screen cannot be circumvented
with the
> usual ways.  I tried this:
>
> > apt-get -y update
> > apt-get -y upgrade -or- apt-get -y --force-yes upgrade
>
> Neither of these work.  It seems like I might be able to get around this
screen
> by manipulating either some apt-get configuration, or some dpkg
configurations,
> but I'm completely unaware of where this information may be held.

Most packages use debconf for this - so you'll need to:
# dpkg-reconfigure debconf

And you should be able to choose the "noninteractive" interface. This
won't ask any questions at all.

The above will change the system-wide default - if you just want to
change it for a single invocation of apt, set the DEBIAN_FRONTEND
environment variable:
# DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive apt-get install whatever

Hope this helps

PS: Have a look at the debconf(7) man page (in the debconf-doc package)
- should be useful for you.

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Re: [PARTIALLY SOLVED] kqemu on Sid

2007-06-22 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Andrew Sackville-West wrote:

On Thu, Jun 21, 2007 at 11:25:50AM -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
So kqemu-1.3.0pre11 (the latest version) hangs the system solid with 
2.6.21-1-k7, the Debian stock kernel. But I have modified that kernel 
with 2.6.21-ck2 from here:

http://members.optusnet.com.au/ckolivas/kernel/

Going back to the plain 2.6.18-4-k7 Debian kernel and reinstalling kqemu 
all errors disappear and XP initiates "normally" (i.e. M$'s version of 
"normal").


So the problem lies either in 2.6.21-1-k7 or in the -ck modification.



Hey hugo, I haven't been following this thread for various reasons,
but just yesterday I needed to do some stupid XP stuff and fired up
qemu. My kqemu was compiled from source months or longer ago and
needed recompiling. I just did a ./configure, make, make install in
the upstreams 1.3.0pre9 and it works fine with

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ uname -a
Linux basement 2.6.21-1-k7 #1 SMP Sat May 26 16:56:05 UTC 2007 i686
GNU/Linux

maybe this helps you. maybe not. 


A


Andrew, I just posted the results of my investigation: it's due to my 
modifications of 2.6.21-1-k7 and turning PARAVIRT_CONFIG off to be able 
to install the nvidia driver.


Not modifying the kernel solved the problem.

Thanks

Hugo


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ssh on lan by hostname instead of dynamic ip

2007-06-22 Thread BartlebyScrivener
Hello,

I use unison and rsync on my home LAN. Everything works fine as long
as I use ip addresses, for example,

ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED]

But my router (on home LAN) assigns dynamic ip addresses. So my
scripts don't work if the router happens to assign a different address
that day to one of my machines.

Is there a way to use ssh and rsync using hostname instead of ip
address. It seems to me I've had this working once or twice, but then
it stops.

Thanks for any help.

rick


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Re: Sound card not working

2007-06-22 Thread Mike McCarty

Chris Lale wrote:

Mike McCarty wrote:



[that he's having problems with a sound card]


That's all I can think of. Hope that helps.


Thanks! I'll give that a try, and read those pages.

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Re: how hot is my xeon?

2007-06-22 Thread Mike McCarty

michael wrote:

I've tried unsuccessfully to monitor my dual Xeon box but lm-sensors
doesn't seem to detect anything. I've a Intel Server Board SE7320SO2


Even if it did, unless you've calibrated the thing you won't know
the temp.


with two 3. GHz Xeon chips. Anybody know how to get mobo/chip/internal
temps (and pref fan speeds)... my box gets noisy and I'm trying to see
if it's temp related


What's wrong with simply sticking a thermometer in there? I'm talking
about a remote-reading one, like those intended to feed a wire through
your door or window and hang on the roofline or whatever. That will
give you a calibrated temp reading, not an arbitrary meaningless
number.

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Re: Sound card not working

2007-06-22 Thread Mike McCarty

Ismael Valladolid Torres wrote:

Mike McCarty escribe:


Anyone have some hints as to how to proceed?



Check out /proc/asound/cards.

Cordially, Ismael


Thanks, I'll give that a try.

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