Network printing trouble
Hello I am obviously going about this the wrong way, but I'm not sure where my error lies. A second (or third) pair of eyes would be helpful. On box A there is an USB printer. Box B wants to use that printer. Box A and B are both connected via a hub to a firewall that does IP masking. Box A has CUPS as does B. Box B has "Show printers shared by other systems" enabled on the CUPS admin page (localhost:631). Box A has "show printers shared by other systems" disabled, and "share published printers connected to this system" enabled. So far this is all I have done, and this repeatedly seems to lock up the CUPS server horrendously so that Box A can't print either. There is evidently a step (or a series) that I am missing. Can someone kindly review this with me so I can correct this. TIA Andy -- "If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about the answers." - Thomas Pynchon, "Gravity's Rainbow" -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing a Lenny package to an Etch machine
Chris Walters wrote: Just wondering if you've tried the Debian Backports site for the packages you need? If they are there, they should install with no problems. If not, my best suggestion would be to grab the source, and compile it yourself, then make a .deb out of it and use the normal method to install what you just compiled. Chris OK - I'll give the backports site a shot first, and then if no dice I'll compile from source. Thanks all. A -- "If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about the answers." - Thomas Pynchon, "Gravity's Rainbow" -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What are these folders in home?
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 12:45:16PM +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote: > > > ~/.xsession-errors (this one is 98 MB) > > > > ... the errors from you\r xsessions...? :P > > Can it be erased? I've no need to troubleshoot as I'm not experiencing > any problems that I know about. Not a good idea to erase log files. Once you have checked that there are no important errors, you can ":> .xsession-errors" (without the quotes) which will empty the file. -- Chris. == -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: just like the old days (TeTeX to TeXLive)
* Florian Kulzer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: |> > But these are details, and mostly the problem is solved, and I'm |> > grateful for your help, |> |> There might be a problem with pdftex.map. Look at the output of |> |> kpsewhich pdftex.map |> |> and check if this files contains all of your custom fonts. Thank you very much. This file is of a daunting size (7096 lines). It seems, in fact, to be a symbolic link to pdftex_dl14.map. In the same directory there is a file pdftex_ndl14.map (which is not linked to). I am well beyond the limits of present understanding here, but will probe further and report back. Thank you for all of your help, Jim -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Urgent: upgrading ipw3945 to 2.6.24
Jeff D wrote: >have you tried to manually load the iwl3945 module? I >beleive that the >ipw driver has been replaced with the iwl. Oh, yes, thank you! I found the entry in the Wiki for doing this, followed everything exactly, and now im back on wireless. Thanx all! Jen Special deal for Yahoo! users & friends - No Cost. Get a month of Blockbuster Total Access now http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text3.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Urgent: upgrading ipw3945 to 2.6.24
On Tuesday 01 April 2008 05:26, Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum wrote: > Hi, > > I am running Lenny. I usually accept all the upgrades > im offered, so i upgraded my kernel recently. > > Now my Intel wireless card doesnt work, because i had > been using the ipw3945-modules-2.6.22 package, and now > im running kernel version 2.6.24. And i cant find the > package for ipw2945 2.6.24 anywhere. > > I know im just being stupid, but where do i find this? > Or is there some other way to get my wireless working > again? > > Thanx! > > Jen Here: http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=ipw3945&searchon=names&suite=testing§ion=all Do you have contrib and non-free in your sources.list? Yes, i do. And i did see that, but i was looking for the binary package. Ive never built from source--what do i have to do for this? I dont mind, i just dont know what to do. Im used to just clicking "yes" to the updates and everyting just works. (I know, maybe i shouldnt be using Lenny in this case.) Thanx again! jen Special deal for Yahoo! users & friends - No Cost. Get a month of Blockbuster Total Access now http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text3.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Urgent: upgrading ipw3945 to 2.6.24
On Mon, 31 Mar 2008, Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum wrote: > > Hi, > > I am running Lenny. I usually accept all the upgrades > im offered, so i upgraded my kernel recently. > > Now my Intel wireless card doesnt work, because i had > been using the ipw3945-modules-2.6.22 package, and now > im running kernel version 2.6.24. And i cant find the > package for ipw2945 2.6.24 anywhere. > > I know im just being stupid, but where do i find this? > Or is there some other way to get my wireless working > again? > > Thanx! > > Jen > have you tried to manually load the iwl3945 module? I beleive that the ipw driver has been replaced with the iwl. -- 8 out of 10 Owners who Expressed a Preference said Their Cats Preferred Techno. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Urgent: upgrading ipw3945 to 2.6.24
On Tuesday 01 April 2008 05:26, Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum wrote: > Hi, > > I am running Lenny. I usually accept all the upgrades > im offered, so i upgraded my kernel recently. > > Now my Intel wireless card doesnt work, because i had > been using the ipw3945-modules-2.6.22 package, and now > im running kernel version 2.6.24. And i cant find the > package for ipw2945 2.6.24 anywhere. > > I know im just being stupid, but where do i find this? > Or is there some other way to get my wireless working > again? > > Thanx! > > Jen Here: http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=ipw3945&searchon=names&suite=testing§ion=all Do you have contrib and non-free in your sources.list? Thierry -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Urgent: upgrading ipw3945 to 2.6.24
Hi, I am running Lenny. I usually accept all the upgrades im offered, so i upgraded my kernel recently. Now my Intel wireless card doesnt work, because i had been using the ipw3945-modules-2.6.22 package, and now im running kernel version 2.6.24. And i cant find the package for ipw2945 2.6.24 anywhere. I know im just being stupid, but where do i find this? Or is there some other way to get my wireless working again? Thanx! Jen OMG, Sweet deal for Yahoo! users/friends:Get A Month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. W00t http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text2.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 7:17 PM, Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 06:06:03PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > > On 03/31/08 17:42, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > > > On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 01:54:44PM -0500, Vikki Roemer wrote: [...] > > > I guess Jumpin Jackass wouldn't be a selling feature. > > > > > > Other than Jackel, what other animals start with the letter 'J'? > > > > Jaguar > > Jay > > Jayhawk > > Jellyfish > > Juggling Jellyfish jackrabbits and jack russel terriers -- Jimmy Wu Registered Linux User #454138 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how to reset desktop env. config? (was: Re: What are these folders in home?)
H.S. wrote: > But then, the question is, what is > the "right way" to start over using a desktop environment above? Is > there a "soft reset" for window managers and desktop env.? > AFAIK, such a "soft reset" does not exist for KDE 3.5.5 users. It would be cool to have such a thing though. I gave the kmail as an example. The situation is similar even if you are using knode, korganizer etc., You loose the data along with configuration files when the .kde/ is deleted. hth raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: number of users accessing a wireless network
On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 9:16 AM, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Rich Healey wrote: > > > put them all in the same subnet (ie 192.168.0.128-255) and then nmap -sS > > - -PN 192.168.0.128/25 | grep [uU][Pp] > > What does it mean to say 192.168.0.128/25 ? /25 indicates the subnet (255.255.255.128). In this case, it means 192.168.0.128-255. Chris -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sendmail configuration
Andrius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > T o n g wrote: > > On Thu, 20 Mar 2008 16:17:51 -0700, Richard A Nelson wrote: > > > >> On Wednesday 19 March 2008 03:21:17 am Andrius wrote: > >> > >>> how to configure Sendmail to send a messages through ISP SMTP server? > >> > >> Install sendmail-doc and check /usr/share/doc/sendmail/cf.README.gz > >> for SMART_HOST ( define(`SMART_HOST', `')dnl ) > >> > >> On Wed, 19 Mar 2008, Paul Johnson wrote: > >>> > >>> It's probably best to avoid sendmail if you're new to setting up email > >>> and go > >>> with the debian default of exim instead. > >> > >> I'll assume you were trying to be helpful (and simply failed), and not > >> trying to start another MTA pissing contest. > > > > Quite agree. The OP asked for Sendmail, so let's keep our focus on > > Sendmail, instead of launching religious war each time. In fact, when the > > ISP SMTP server need encrypted authentication, I just can't get exim to > > work, despite googling and asking for help in various channels including > > this mlist. When swithed back to Sendmail, I found the answer just by > > googling, without a single question asked. > > > > Andrius, if you don't know what to next after Richard's step, here is a > > short guide: > > > > http://xpt.sourceforge.net/techdocs/nix/conn/mail/sendmail/sndm06-SendmailSmartHostConfiguration/index.html#Sendmail_Smart_Host > > Thank you. The bat book now is on my table. Very interesting thing is > Sendmail. Enjoy the ride. That book's a great read. I suggest you supplement it with a peruse of tldp.org as well. Rick Moen's linuxmafia.com has some very interesting and at times detailed (config-ish) reading IME. [Well, not like Tolstoy (et al), but you know what I mean.] -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html Linux Counter #80292 - -http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.htmlPlease, don't Cc: me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: number of users accessing a wireless network
Rich Healey wrote: > put them all in the same subnet (ie 192.168.0.128-255) and then nmap -sS > - -PN 192.168.0.128/25 | grep [uU][Pp] What does it mean to say 192.168.0.128/25 ? Instead, I settled on to sudo nmap -sS -PN 192.168.1.1-255 It seems to be working... thanks raju -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sendmail configuration
T o n g <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Thu, 20 Mar 2008 16:17:51 -0700, Richard A Nelson wrote: > > > On Wednesday 19 March 2008 03:21:17 am Andrius wrote: > > > >> how to configure Sendmail to send a messages through ISP SMTP > >> server? > > > > Install sendmail-doc and check /usr/share/doc/sendmail/cf.README.gz > > for SMART_HOST ( define(`SMART_HOST', `')dnl ) > > > > On Wed, 19 Mar 2008, Paul Johnson wrote: > > > >> It's probably best to avoid sendmail if you're new to setting up email and > >> go ..^ > >> with the debian default of exim instead. > > > > I'll assume you were trying to be helpful (and simply failed), and not I think he said what he meant, and it's valid. > > trying to start another MTA pissing contest. Chip on your shoulder? Frankly, I agree with him and I've Sendmailed over many years. Exim is far less "interesting", from a non-wizardly point of view. Debian was right to have chosen it. I hear they've gone to postfix for the next (lenny)? I'll stick with exim. -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html Linux Counter #80292 - -http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.htmlPlease, don't Cc: me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing a Lenny package to an Etch machine
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 andy wrote: | Paul Cartwright wrote: |> On Mon March 31 2008, Andrei Popescu wrote: | This sounded like a pretty straight forward response. | | Once I downloaded the packages and went to install, this is what I got: | | ~$ sudo dpkg -i libofx4_0.9.0-2.1_i386.deb | (Reading database ... 178403 files and directories currently installed.) | Preparing to replace libofx4 1:0.9.0-2.1 (using | libofx4_0.9.0-2.1_i386.deb) ... | Unpacking replacement libofx4 ... | dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of libofx4: | libofx4 depends on libc6 (>= 2.7-1); however: | Version of libc6 on system is 2.3.6.ds1-13etch5. | libofx4 depends on libstdc++6 (>= 4.2.1-4); however: | Version of libstdc++6 on system is 4.1.1-21. | dpkg: error processing libofx4 (--install): | dependency problems - leaving unconfigured | Errors were encountered while processing: | libofx4 | | Hmmm ... not so cool. So this is where I am stuck. Especially since | apt-get install libstdc++6 seems to kick up an error about version | numbers, wherein the present installed version is more recent than the | recommended version number. | Cheers | | Andy (he who is dubious about traversing Dependency Hell) Just wondering if you've tried the Debian Backports site for the packages you need? If they are there, they should install with no problems. If not, my best suggestion would be to grab the source, and compile it yourself, then make a .deb out of it and use the normal method to install what you just compiled. Chris -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQFH8YURUx1jS/ORyCsRCnaGAJwNemfSGHuD9ZeKtcHeiU5J4tj04ACdEUNb R9ltUK3EWAjb+UO+uSNKXEY= =YJY+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Ron Johnson wrote: | On 03/31/08 17:42, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: |> On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 01:54:44PM -0500, Vikki Roemer wrote: |>> On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 2:42 AM, Chris Bannister |>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: |>>> On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 02:09:10PM +1100, Owen Townend wrote: |>>> > Hey, |>>> > They also alphabetically increment with each release and Gutsy Gibbon, |>>> > Hardy Herron and Intrepid Ibex are the current timeline releases for 7.10, |>>> > 8.04 and 8.10 respectively. So it'll have to be 'j' onwards. How about |>>> > Jovial Jackal? |>>> |>>> Wasn't there a Hoary Hedgehog? |>> Yeah, from about 2 years ago before they started going in alphabetical order. | | |> I guess Jumpin Jackass wouldn't be a selling feature. | |> Other than Jackel, what other animals start with the letter 'J'? | | Jaguar | Jay | Jayhawk | Jellyfish | Jeroboa Who need animals? I say Jumpin' Jehosaphat! Or, if you must have an animal, Jammin' Jellyfish. C -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQFH8YOhUx1jS/ORyCsRClgWAJ0aUFVcOMuPsAiCZ0X1YIPNPUYY8ACeN4f2 z/ZCfb8vTLq7FtiWauRVcPI= =KGvN -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how to reset desktop env. config?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 H.S. wrote: > Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote: >> paragasu wrote: >> >>> AFAIK, >>> you can delete all files in $HOME directory. especially the hidden >>> files. >>> the worst you will get is you lost some setting of the program. But you >>> can login >>> just fine. >>> >> >> One has to be careful. For example, Kmail (from KDE) uses .kde to >> store all >> the mail. If some one deletes the .kde directory thinking that it is >> just a >> bunch of rc files they would be in for a nice surprise. >> >> raju > > I have encountered the "soft reset" situation many times: I wanted to > start over with a particular desktop, KDE or Gnome. I usually do this: > 1. log out from the window manager > 2. kill all my files in /tmp > 3. kill all relevant hidden directories in $HOME/ (e.g. .kde*, .gnome*, > .gconf* and such). > 4. Log in to the window manager. It starts configuration from scratch. > > Now, I do not use Kmail, just Thunderbird and mutt. I know where they > save their email. And now I learn that kmail saves its data in .kde. I > hope a user using Kmail knows this. But then, the question is, what is > the "right way" to start over using a desktop environment above? Is > there a "soft reset" for window managers and desktop env.? > > thanks, > ->HS > > > Depends on the window manager, obviously, for example i use E, the various subdirectories of ~/.e are pretty obvious about what's in them, it doesn't take long to go through and hose just the right bits, and then you can restart E without even closing all your windows :) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFH8XoFLeTfO4yBSAcRAmljAJ91ofcjhp4CsDXHcOW0L+Qehf8RAACeKEgQ jSIQoxR9GjGPIisL2ug/SxE= =7sRH -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
how to reset desktop env. config? (was: Re: What are these folders in home?)
Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote: paragasu wrote: AFAIK, you can delete all files in $HOME directory. especially the hidden files. the worst you will get is you lost some setting of the program. But you can login just fine. One has to be careful. For example, Kmail (from KDE) uses .kde to store all the mail. If some one deletes the .kde directory thinking that it is just a bunch of rc files they would be in for a nice surprise. raju I have encountered the "soft reset" situation many times: I wanted to start over with a particular desktop, KDE or Gnome. I usually do this: 1. log out from the window manager 2. kill all my files in /tmp 3. kill all relevant hidden directories in $HOME/ (e.g. .kde*, .gnome*, .gconf* and such). 4. Log in to the window manager. It starts configuration from scratch. Now, I do not use Kmail, just Thunderbird and mutt. I know where they save their email. And now I learn that kmail saves its data in .kde. I hope a user using Kmail knows this. But then, the question is, what is the "right way" to start over using a desktop environment above? Is there a "soft reset" for window managers and desktop env.? thanks, ->HS -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: AMD Athlon XP3200
On Monday 31 March 2008 21:24, Phil Wiley wrote: > My computer uses an AMD XP3200 processor. Which set of instructions > should I use? > > Thanks > > Phil Wiley > Massachusetts, USA You mean to download an image fo install: i386 will do. Thierry -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 06:06:03PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 03/31/08 17:42, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 01:54:44PM -0500, Vikki Roemer wrote: > >> On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 2:42 AM, Chris Bannister > >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 02:09:10PM +1100, Owen Townend wrote: > >>> > Hey, > >>> > They also alphabetically increment with each release and Gutsy > >>> Gibbon, > >>> > Hardy Herron and Intrepid Ibex are the current timeline releases for > >>> 7.10, > >>> > 8.04 and 8.10 respectively. So it'll have to be 'j' onwards. How about > >>> > Jovial Jackal? > >>> > >>> Wasn't there a Hoary Hedgehog? > >> Yeah, from about 2 years ago before they started going in alphabetical > >> order. > > > > > > I guess Jumpin Jackass wouldn't be a selling feature. > > > > Other than Jackel, what other animals start with the letter 'J'? > > Jaguar > Jay > Jayhawk > Jellyfish Juggling Jellyfish A signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: AMD Athlon XP3200
On Monday 31 March 2008 12:24:05 pm Phil Wiley wrote: > My computer uses an AMD XP3200 processor. Which set of instructions > should I use? The ones that apply to your system's architecture. If you used to run Windows, odds are you're on i386, less likely ia64 or amd64. -- Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: Can't set font color in open office?
I upgraded to 1:2.4.0-3, but the problems still exist. The color can not be displayed in writer, but can be shown in the PDF after exported. Is this expected or not? M. On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 7:01 PM, Michael Yang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm using openoffice 2.4.0-rc1-2. I was using the same way as you do to > set font color. It doesn't work. > > I'll try the latest version later on. > > Regards. > M. > > > On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 1:56 PM, Florian Kulzer < > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 11:00:34 -0400, Michael Yang wrote: > > > Hi: > > > > > > I'm working in the openoffice writer 2.4.0 (lenny/sid 2.6.24-1-686), > > but it > > > seems that the font color setting doesn't work for me. > > > > > > After I set the color to selected words, the color doesn't get > > changed. > > > > > > Anybody have idea about this? > > > > How do you try to set the color? > > > > I can change the color both with the icon on the formatting toolbar and > > via the "character > font effects > font color" context menu. > > > > (openoffice.org 1:2.4.0-3 on Sid, custom 2.6.24 kernel) > > > > -- > > Regards,| http://users.icfo.es/Florian.Kulzer > > Florian | > > > > > > -- > > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > >
Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/31/08 17:42, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 01:54:44PM -0500, Vikki Roemer wrote: >> On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 2:42 AM, Chris Bannister >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 02:09:10PM +1100, Owen Townend wrote: >>> > Hey, >>> > They also alphabetically increment with each release and Gutsy Gibbon, >>> > Hardy Herron and Intrepid Ibex are the current timeline releases for >>> 7.10, >>> > 8.04 and 8.10 respectively. So it'll have to be 'j' onwards. How about >>> > Jovial Jackal? >>> >>> Wasn't there a Hoary Hedgehog? >> Yeah, from about 2 years ago before they started going in alphabetical order. > > > I guess Jumpin Jackass wouldn't be a selling feature. > > Other than Jackel, what other animals start with the letter 'J'? Jaguar Jay Jayhawk Jellyfish Jeroboa - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA We want... a Shrubbery!! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFH8W5bS9HxQb37XmcRAlaLAJwN74zcSDxfGp/Q0sxqq8Ux6KdASACgoG06 X1npV9IyWJ+HB8GhODtZGto= =8XHh -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Can't set font color in open office?
I'm using openoffice 2.4.0-rc1-2. I was using the same way as you do to set font color. It doesn't work. I'll try the latest version later on. Regards. M. On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 1:56 PM, Florian Kulzer < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 11:00:34 -0400, Michael Yang wrote: > > Hi: > > > > I'm working in the openoffice writer 2.4.0 (lenny/sid 2.6.24-1-686), but > it > > seems that the font color setting doesn't work for me. > > > > After I set the color to selected words, the color doesn't get changed. > > > > Anybody have idea about this? > > How do you try to set the color? > > I can change the color both with the icon on the formatting toolbar and > via the "character > font effects > font color" context menu. > > (openoffice.org 1:2.4.0-3 on Sid, custom 2.6.24 kernel) > > -- > Regards,| http://users.icfo.es/Florian.Kulzer > Florian | > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >
Re: migrating to 64 bit...
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 11:47:51PM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: ... > Just to follow up... yes you can migrate from i386 to amd64, but what > a royal pain... > > lots of manual dpkg work... jumping back and forth between new and > old install and chrooting into the new install to get things set > up. But it's up and I'm posting from it right now. So save your energy > and just install it for real... It'll probably take me several *more* > hours to finish patching it all up not to mention decruftifying it... > and to follow *that* up... turns out it needn't be as difficult as I made it. I carry /var on a separate partition which means when I remounted /var under the new 64bit system dpkg thought everything was installed just fine, but of course it wasn't. so my subsequent dpkg --set-selections call was a major problem. Anyway, word to the wise, when migrating like this, only take vital parts of /var (like maybe /var/spool or /var/mail or whatever) and definitely do *not* take the existing apt portions of /var. Instead copy over the versions from the debootstrap install so that you get a consistent archive. A signature.asc Description: Digital signature
problem with pgadmin3 and postgres 8.3
Hi It seems like the older version of pgadmin3 don't play well with postgres 8.3. The postgres people suggest (recommend) using version 1.8. But it seems like we can't have version 1.8 or anything greater than version 1.4 because wxwidgets isn't being maintained (well that is to say that the current maintainer doesn't want to go to version 2.8) Are there other people having this problem ? This is another package I am using that has been affected by wxwidgets alex -- "His (Cheney's) explanation was a very strong and powerful explanation and I'm satisfied with the explanation he gave." - George W. Bush 02/16/2006 Washington, DC Commenting on the Vice President's shooting of a hunting partner signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 01:54:44PM -0500, Vikki Roemer wrote: > On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 2:42 AM, Chris Bannister > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 02:09:10PM +1100, Owen Townend wrote: > > > Hey, > > > They also alphabetically increment with each release and Gutsy Gibbon, > > > Hardy Herron and Intrepid Ibex are the current timeline releases for > > 7.10, > > > 8.04 and 8.10 respectively. So it'll have to be 'j' onwards. How about > > > Jovial Jackal? > > > > Wasn't there a Hoary Hedgehog? > > Yeah, from about 2 years ago before they started going in alphabetical order. I guess Jumpin Jackass wouldn't be a selling feature. Other than Jackel, what other animals start with the letter 'J'? Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
busybox mount broken in sid/amd64
I'm resending this because I think it got lost with liszt.debian.org being down. I apologize if it ends up being a dupe... A Has anyone else seen erratic behavior from busybox sid amd64? I have a couple of custom scripts in my initrd that handle encrypted swap and so forth. As part of this they call $mount -t ext2 /dev/mapper/crypt-root /temp-root to pull a key from the already unlocked crypt-root partition. The problem is that suddenly the mount command doesn't work anymore. I've forced a busybox shell to play around with it and can't find a combination that works. interestingly $ mount -t vfat /dev/mmcb0p1 /tmp-sd-card works just fine and is part of my current work-around. Other symptoms I learned while hanging out in busybox: $ mount fails and just displays its usage message $ busybox mount functions as expected $ mount /dev/mapp... fails with usage message $ busybox mount /dev/mapper/crypt-root /temp-root fails with something like (paraphrasing, but the concept is right) mount: dm-0: failed. unimplemented feature (4) Any insight would be appreciated before I file a bug. A signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]
On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 09:19:13AM -0700, Daniel Burrows wrote: > On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 09:53:00PM -0500, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was > heard to say: > > On 03/29/08 21:44, Daniel Burrows wrote: > > > I'd fall back to "gravid giraffe", which is at least an amusing mental > > > image. :) > > > > What's all that amusing about a pregnant giraffe? > > You know, it's not nearly as funny this morning as it was last night. > Funny how that works... but still not as funny as gravid giraffe. What's *NOT* funny about giraffes? ;-P A signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Installing a Lenny package to an Etch machine
Paul Cartwright wrote: On Mon March 31 2008, Andrei Popescu wrote: First I would try to install it with 'dpkg -i'. Another option would be to set 'APT::Default-Release "stable";' in /etc/apt/apt.conf, add a source for lenny and try to install with 'aptitude install -t lenny homebank'. If this doesn't pull in too many dependencies (where 'too many' depends on your luck/guts/phase of the moon/...) than you're good to go. I got it to install on my Etch system by doing this: download 3 packages: homebank homebank-data libofx4 install in this order: libofx4 homebank-data homebank to download, get them here: http://packages.debian.org/sid/i386/libofx4/download http://packages.debian.org/sid/gnome/homebank This sounded like a pretty straight forward response. Once I downloaded the packages and went to install, this is what I got: ~$ sudo dpkg -i libofx4_0.9.0-2.1_i386.deb (Reading database ... 178403 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to replace libofx4 1:0.9.0-2.1 (using libofx4_0.9.0-2.1_i386.deb) ... Unpacking replacement libofx4 ... dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of libofx4: libofx4 depends on libc6 (>= 2.7-1); however: Version of libc6 on system is 2.3.6.ds1-13etch5. libofx4 depends on libstdc++6 (>= 4.2.1-4); however: Version of libstdc++6 on system is 4.1.1-21. dpkg: error processing libofx4 (--install): dependency problems - leaving unconfigured Errors were encountered while processing: libofx4 Hmmm ... not so cool. So this is where I am stuck. Especially since apt-get install libstdc++6 seems to kick up an error about version numbers, wherein the present installed version is more recent than the recommended version number. Yikes!! I have decided to go for kmymoney2 instead. :-) At least that installed fine. Cheers Andy (he who is dubious about traversing Dependency Hell) -- "If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about the answers." - Thomas Pynchon, "Gravity's Rainbow"
Re: Re: resume ... resume ... resume ...
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 03:06:09PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Andrew & others, > > Thanks for the ideas. > > asw> When did this start? > > When I upgraded the system from etch to lenny, > or shortly thereafter, about the middle of February. > > asw> what changed? > > Nothing was changed with the intention of having > a "resume" capability. My best guess is that a > dependency pulled in a package which I have yet > to recognize. > > asw> I would look for the hibernate package, ... > > hibernate is not installed. how about uswsusp? that's the user-space software suspend, or something like that. > > asw> among others, to remove. > > Given the syntax of the message, "resume: ..." > I naively expected to find a program named resume. > No such luck. So how can I find the source of this > annoying snag. I've lost track of this thread, Peter, so refresh me... that said. you could look in your actual initrd by doing the following: mkdir tempinitrd cd tempinitrd cp /boot/initrd. . gunzip -c initrd. | cpio -i and that will unpack the ramdisk into the current directory. you can look through that structure to see if resume is included (probably in bin or sbin). Essentially, you need to convince your mkinitramfs to exclude that. I"m betting its uswsusp that is the culprit. A signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Re: resume ... resume ... resume ...
Andrew & others, Thanks for the ideas. asw> When did this start? When I upgraded the system from etch to lenny, or shortly thereafter, about the middle of February. asw> what changed? Nothing was changed with the intention of having a "resume" capability. My best guess is that a dependency pulled in a package which I have yet to recognize. asw> I would look for the hibernate package, ... hibernate is not installed. asw> among others, to remove. Given the syntax of the message, "resume: ..." I naively expected to find a program named resume. No such luck. So how can I find the source of this annoying snag. Thanks, ... Peter E. -- Desktops.OpenDoc http://carnot.yi.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing a Lenny package to an Etch machine
On Mon March 31 2008, Andrei Popescu wrote: > First I would try to install it with 'dpkg -i'. Another option would be > to set 'APT::Default-Release "stable";' in /etc/apt/apt.conf, add a > source for lenny and try to install with > 'aptitude install -t lenny homebank'. If this doesn't pull in too many > dependencies (where 'too many' depends on your luck/guts/phase of the > moon/...) than you're good to go. I got it to install on my Etch system by doing this: download 3 packages: homebank homebank-data libofx4 install in this order: libofx4 homebank-data homebank to download, get them here: http://packages.debian.org/sid/i386/libofx4/download http://packages.debian.org/sid/gnome/homebank -- Paul Cartwright Registered Linux user # 367800 Registered Ubuntu User #12459 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing a Lenny package to an Etch machine
also sprach Glenn Becker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008.03.31.2259 +0200]: >> I am wanting to install Homebank on an Etch machine. Trouble is, it >> looks like it is only available for testing/Lenny and Sid. > > I wish I had my copy next to me, but I know Martin Krafft's excellent > book _The Debian System_ has some good material on how to safely mix and > match like this. One of the better tech books I have ever read: it's > ultra-dog-eared! :) You won't be able to safely mix and match that, because of the dependencies. Also, a backport will require a backport of libgtk2.0-0, which might be a lot of trouble, but I don't know. Talk to the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list. Or set up a lenny chroot to run it. My book explains how to do that (in the context of amd64), even with bind mounts for /home and stuff. -- .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' : proud Debian developer, author, administrator, and user `. `'` http://people.debian.org/~madduck - http://debiansystem.info `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fixing systems i welcome your constructive criticism and corrections. digital_signature_gpg.asc Description: Digital signature (see http://martin-krafft.net/gpg/)
Re: Installing a Lenny package to an Etch machine
On 2008-03-31 23:28 +0200, Sven Joachim wrote: > On 2008-03-31 21:15 +0200, andy wrote: > >> I am wanting to install Homebank on an Etch machine. Trouble is, it >> looks like it is only available for testing/Lenny and Sid. >> >> http://homebank.free.fr/index.php?id=20 >> http://packages.qa.debian.org/h/homebank.html >> >> Is it best to simply give this a miss, or to download a tar ball and >> convert it to a deb package via (is it) alien? Or, can one install a >> testing package on a stable machine? > > Only if you are willing to upgrade a lot of other packages as well, > namely the libraries that the package depends on. This is probably not > what you want, so a better way is to build homebank from source. You > can either try to backport the Debian package (if you're lucky, a simple > rebuild on Etch will do the trick) or use upstream's tarball. The > latter has the advantage that it's a newer version than the Debian > package, but you may have more problems finding out the build > dependencies; for Debian sources, `dpkg-buildpackage' will tell you what > is needed. Apparently the latest upstream release (3.7) will _not_ build on Etch, because it requires Gtk+ 2.10 or higher. Etch has only Gtk+ 2.8.20 -- welcome to dependency hell. :-/ Sven -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Postfix Access Problem
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 04:36:28PM -0400, Thomas H. George wrote: > Mar 31 16:07:28 Phoenix identd[8050]: started > Mar 31 16:07:28 Phoenix sm-mta[8049]: NOQUEUE: SYSERR(root): hash map > "access": missing map file /etc/mail/access.db: No such file or directory > Mar 31 16:07:28 Phoenix sm-mta[8049]: ruleset=check_relay, arg1=localhost, > arg2=127.0.0.1, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [127.0.0.1], reject=451 4.3.0 Temporary > system failure. Please try again later. What is this sm-mta? A quick search seems to indicate you have sendmail installed? AFAIK you can't have several MTAs installed. So please check you really installed postfix (dpkg -l postfix). If you did, please post the output of 'postconf -n'. Regards, Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Installing a Lenny package to an Etch machine
On 2008-03-31 21:15 +0200, andy wrote: > I am wanting to install Homebank on an Etch machine. Trouble is, it > looks like it is only available for testing/Lenny and Sid. > > http://homebank.free.fr/index.php?id=20 > http://packages.qa.debian.org/h/homebank.html > > Is it best to simply give this a miss, or to download a tar ball and > convert it to a deb package via (is it) alien? Or, can one install a > testing package on a stable machine? Only if you are willing to upgrade a lot of other packages as well, namely the libraries that the package depends on. This is probably not what you want, so a better way is to build homebank from source. You can either try to backport the Debian package (if you're lucky, a simple rebuild on Etch will do the trick) or use upstream's tarball. The latter has the advantage that it's a newer version than the Debian package, but you may have more problems finding out the build dependencies; for Debian sources, `dpkg-buildpackage' will tell you what is needed. Sven -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: AMD Athlon XP3200
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/31/08 14:24, Phil Wiley wrote: > My computer uses an AMD XP3200 processor. Which set of instructions > should I use? Are you asking whether this is a 32-bit or 64-bit system? (Since x86-64 systems also have a 32-bit mode, you can always run it in 32-bit mode using a -686 kernel.) - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA We want... a Shrubbery!! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFH8VbVS9HxQb37XmcRAtTmAKCvJ0DeTD6QqzPvUWIcX668tmbzGwCbBrzE R9lcX/FY9qOclOSm6dus7NI= =QpZ1 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What are these folders in home?
On 31/03/2008, Andrei Popescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Same goes for .sylpheed .sylpheed-claws and probably other mail clients. > > Regards, > Andrei Although Thunderbird stores in ~/.thunderbird, Firefox stores in ~/.mozilla. I could imagine that there are those who use Firefox who might not know what mozilla is. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
Re: Installing a Lenny package to an Etch machine
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 08:15:51PM +0100, andy wrote: > Greetings > > I am wanting to install Homebank on an Etch machine. Trouble is, it looks > like it is only available for testing/Lenny and Sid. > > http://homebank.free.fr/index.php?id=20 > http://packages.qa.debian.org/h/homebank.html > > Is it best to simply give this a miss, or to download a tar ball and > convert it to a deb package via (is it) alien? Or, can one install a > testing package on a stable machine? First I would try to install it with 'dpkg -i'. Another option would be to set 'APT::Default-Release "stable";' in /etc/apt/apt.conf, add a source for lenny and try to install with 'aptitude install -t lenny homebank'. If this doesn't pull in too many dependencies (where 'too many' depends on your luck/guts/phase of the moon/...) than you're good to go. The safest option would probably be to try rebuilding the package for ethc (backporting). AFAIK this involves some invocation of 'apt-get build-dep' 'apt-get source' with some '-t lenny' and others. Regards, Andrei P.S. alien AFAIK is used to convert rpm packages to deb. tar balls usually contain only the source which you need to compile and install with something like './configure' 'make' 'make install'. If you go that route make sure you install it in /usr/local in order to keep it away from apt. -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Postfix Access Problem
On Mon March 31 2008 13:36:28 Thomas H. George wrote: > Ran apt-get install postfix and then fetchmail. Fetchmail saw the > messages but could not post them (and, therefore did not purge them). > > tail /var/log/syslog reported /etc/mail did not contain access.db. (The > relevant output is attached as post.txt.) > > man access listed modifications to /etc/postfix/main.cf and > /etc/postfix/access which I made. These did not correct the problem. I > read all the files in /usr/share/postfix and found a reference to access > on line 201 of main.cf.dist with a reference to proxymap service but I > can't locate any such service. You sometimes refer to /etc/mail and sometimes to /etc/postfix. You probably want all postfix related files to be in /etc/postfix. If your main.cf refers to /etc/mail, change it to refer to /etc/postfix. If you have /etc/postfix/access but no /etc/postfix/access.db try running "postmap access" and then restart postfix. --Mike Bird -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing a Lenny package to an Etch machine
I am wanting to install Homebank on an Etch machine. Trouble is, it looks like it is only available for testing/Lenny and Sid. I wish I had my copy next to me, but I know Martin Krafft's excellent book _The Debian System_ has some good material on how to safely mix and match like this. One of the better tech books I have ever read: it's ultra-dog-eared! Glenn +-+ Glenn Becker - [EMAIL PROTECTED] SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org +-+ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Postfix Access Problem
Ran apt-get install postfix and then fetchmail. Fetchmail saw the messages but could not post them (and, therefore did not purge them). tail /var/log/syslog reported /etc/mail did not contain access.db. (The relevant output is attached as post.txt.) man access listed modifications to /etc/postfix/main.cf and /etc/postfix/access which I made. These did not correct the problem. I read all the files in /usr/share/postfix and found a reference to access on line 201 of main.cf.dist with a reference to proxymap service but I can't locate any such service. At present I can only post to and read the list from iceape. I would much prefer to use fetchmail and mutt. mutt would have allowed me to insert the output of tail /var/log/syslog directly in this message. At the moment mutt is apparently posting to nowhere - i.e. I have two mailboxes and ask mutt to send a message from one to the other. mutt say it has been sent but it never arrives. I previously installed postfix on another computer and it worked like a charm right out of the apt-get install. Can anyone help me with this setup? Tom Mar 31 16:07:28 Phoenix identd[8050]: started Mar 31 16:07:28 Phoenix sm-mta[8049]: NOQUEUE: SYSERR(root): hash map "access": missing map file /etc/mail/access.db: No such file or directory Mar 31 16:07:28 Phoenix sm-mta[8049]: ruleset=check_relay, arg1=localhost, arg2=127.0.0.1, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [127.0.0.1], reject=451 4.3.0 Temporary system failure. Please try again later.
Installing a Lenny package to an Etch machine
Greetings I am wanting to install Homebank on an Etch machine. Trouble is, it looks like it is only available for testing/Lenny and Sid. http://homebank.free.fr/index.php?id=20 http://packages.qa.debian.org/h/homebank.html Is it best to simply give this a miss, or to download a tar ball and convert it to a deb package via (is it) alien? Or, can one install a testing package on a stable machine? Cheers for your input A -- "If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about the answers." - Thomas Pynchon, "Gravity's Rainbow" -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What are these folders in home?
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 08:50:01AM -0400, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote: > paragasu wrote: > > > AFAIK, > > you can delete all files in $HOME directory. especially the hidden files. > > the worst you will get is you lost some setting of the program. But you > > can login > > just fine. > > > > One has to be careful. For example, Kmail (from KDE) uses .kde to store all > the mail. If some one deletes the .kde directory thinking that it is just a > bunch of rc files they would be in for a nice surprise. Same goes for .sylpheed .sylpheed-claws and probably other mail clients. Regards, Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
AMD Athlon XP3200
My computer uses an AMD XP3200 processor. Which set of instructions should I use? Thanks Phil Wiley Massachusetts, USA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: I would like to give my congradulation
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 09:02:18AM -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > Andrei Popescu wrote: >> On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 11:00:50PM +0100, Sjoerd Hiemstra wrote: >>> Chris Bannister wrote: I think xmms is no more anyway. >>> A number of distros have dropped xmms. >>> As far as I vaguely remember, the reason is that it still uses gtk1, and >>> there were certain problems preventing it from being upgraded to gtk2. >>> >>> Audacious is one of its successors, you could use that one instead. >>> >>> However, Debian is one of the distros still carrying xmms. >> >> With 'still' beeing the key word here. It is only available in stable and >> was already removed from testing. >> > > I see it under unstable also: > > Package: xmms (1:1.2.10+20070601-1 and others) [debports] > > What's 'debports'? That's what I was going to ask *you*! Here is my apt-cache policy: ,[ apt-cache policy xmms ] | xmms: | Installed: (none) | Candidate: 1:1.2.10+20061101-1etch1 | Version table: | 1:1.2.10+20061101-1etch1 0 | 500 http://ftp.at.debian.org etch/main Packages ` How is yours? Regards, Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 2:42 AM, Chris Bannister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 02:09:10PM +1100, Owen Townend wrote: > > Hey, > > They also alphabetically increment with each release and Gutsy Gibbon, > > Hardy Herron and Intrepid Ibex are the current timeline releases for 7.10, > > 8.04 and 8.10 respectively. So it'll have to be 'j' onwards. How about > > Jovial Jackal? > > Wasn't there a Hoary Hedgehog? Yeah, from about 2 years ago before they started going in alphabetical order. -- Vikki Roemer Registered Linux user #280021 "Sometimes the lights all shinin' on me; Other times I can barely see. Lately it occurs to me what a long, strange trip its been." -- Grateful Dead, "Truckin'" -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: just like the old days (TeTeX to TeXLive)
On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 18:22:18 -0700, Jim McCloskey wrote: [...] > This second produced a null output. And following up on that hint, > and with the help of /usr/share/doc/tex-common/TeX-on-Debian.txt, > I was able to create 10local.cfg in /etc/texmf/updmap.d/ with: > > Map pmn.map > > This basically solved the problem. xdvi and dvips behave correctly and > I can view and print the documents as I'd like to be able to. > > The exception seems to be ghostview---it displays and prints a series > of boxes where the glyphs ought to be. And pdflatex doesn't quite > work (there are ligatures, like th, that it can't find, also some > accented characters). > > But these are details, and mostly the problem is solved, and I'm > grateful for your help, There might be a problem with pdftex.map. Look at the output of kpsewhich pdftex.map and check if this files contains all of your custom fonts. -- Regards,| http://users.icfo.es/Florian.Kulzer Florian | -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dmesg reports connection of mass storage device but no kde pop-up nor device file created
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 23:08:32 +1030, Arthur Marsh wrote: > > I plugged in a USB mass storage device into my pc running Debian > Unstable and unlike several months ago, did not get a notification from > KDE that the device had been discovered. Did you choose a default action for that type of device when the notification first appeared? AFAIK, KDE will not pop up the notification again once the user has selected a default action (and this default action can be "do nothing"). > dmesg reported: > > usb 2-2: new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 4 > usb 2-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice > usb 2-2: New USB device found, idVendor=0944, idProduct=0001 > usb 2-2: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=0 > usb 2-2: Product: PXR4 > usb 2-2: Manufacturer: KORG INC. Is that the complete output? It seems that no device node(s) was/were created. > Is any customisation needed for udev / HAL to create a device file when > this device is discovered? I'd like it to auto-mount as /mnt/usbdrive Normally this should "just work". I run KDE on Sid/amd64 and I have not noticed a problem with this in ages; I don't have the same storage device, though. Can you post the output that you get when you run lshal --monitor and plug in the device? (CTRL-C to stop, but wait for at least 10 seconds after you plug in the device.) -- Regards,| http://users.icfo.es/Florian.Kulzer Florian | -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Disabled /etc/network/if-up.d/avahi-daemon: adverse reactions?
On 03/31/2008 10:08 AM, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 05:38:17PM -0500, Mumia W.. wrote: My booting of Etch was being slowed by /etc/network/if-up.d/avahi-daemon, so I removed execute permissions from that file, and now my boots are 10 seconds faster. [...] If gnome requires it, to me that would be another reason not to use gnome. Doug. :-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Can't set font color in open office?
On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 11:00:34 -0400, Michael Yang wrote: > Hi: > > I'm working in the openoffice writer 2.4.0 (lenny/sid 2.6.24-1-686), but it > seems that the font color setting doesn't work for me. > > After I set the color to selected words, the color doesn't get changed. > > Anybody have idea about this? How do you try to set the color? I can change the color both with the icon on the formatting toolbar and via the "character > font effects > font color" context menu. (openoffice.org 1:2.4.0-3 on Sid, custom 2.6.24 kernel) -- Regards,| http://users.icfo.es/Florian.Kulzer Florian | -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: want to speed up laptop
Michael Yang wrote: On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 8:26 AM, jeffry s <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm using xfce4 now. It seems to me it's also getting slower (been using for a long time now), I'm wondering if there's any tools to analyze the system performance? This might go down poorly with some people... Linux file systems *do* degrade. No war please. There are several factors which combine to hurt overall disk performance, CPU load, memory bandwidth, disk interface bandwidth and the disk itself. As a result slight changes tend to be magnified in effect. If swap goes on the multi-stream disk use is particularly nasty, and write to disk is slower anyway. This is likely to go unnoticed on a fast system but laptops particularly have disk poor performance, at root slow platter rotation speed and small diameter. This is basic physics, like for like bit density the bit rate is lower than physically larger disks. There is no ideal file system, but where there are particular problems consider alternatives to ext3. Assuming the laptop is reliable, free from system crashes. Almost by definition a laptop has an inbuilt UPS and therefore power outages should never cause uncontrolled stoppage. Therefore a non journalled filing system is fairly painless and it might be practical to try one to see how much effect it has. A very obvious experiment is kill the journal, turning ext3 into ext2, literally ext3 is ext2 plus an extra layer. This is a two way possible operation without touching the basic disk data, with ext2 being upgradable back to ext3 if wanted. (clue in the -j option http://linux.die.net/man/8/tune2fs) I have done this successfully on a laptop, so I know it is possible, trivially easy, but... there was no critical data on the disk so if it had gone wrong only time was lost. Only one way to discover your mileage. At least be prepared for handling a non-bootable system and how to get out of it. Debian allows some disk operations during boot with the disk mounted read only. With ext2 if the system is reset with a mounted disk it will trip a system file check on boot and this is slow, possibly tripping a repair and second boot. Apparently the data safety is the same as ext3, but with the journalling, recovery does not need the detailed file system check after a crash. (anyone here confirm this?) I could point at instructions but others on list are far more knowledgeable. There are file system differences and default ext3 fits all has been question some places. Some numbers and comment, plenty more around the 'net http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/388 "The first reason is that 'ext3' performance is awesome when the filesystem has just been created and loaded, but degrades very badly over time..." There are graphs out there showing speed degrade with usage for various file systems. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
dansguardian does not stop
hello debian people, my problem with dansguardian started when I saw this message: /etc/cron.daily/logrotate: error: error running postrotate script for /var/log/dansguardian/access.log I began to investigate, and found that the dansguardian init scripts don't work properly; in fact, after I type: # /etc/init.d/dansguardian stop I can see /var/run/dansguardian.pid still there, some dansguardian processes with "ps aux" and netstat -nltp shows someone still listening on port 8080, i.e. it seems that the stop script is doing nothing! As a matter of fact, If shortly after do: # /etc/init.d/dansguardian start it complains saying that it is already running! (Failed); I think the reason is what I am saying about the faulty stop script. Since logrotate issues a stop - start command to dansguardian, I strongly suppose that if I manage to properly stop dansguardian, then I shoul solve the postrotate error as well. One more thing: manuallly deleting dansguardian pid and processes resumes normal starting, but this is of no help. I cannot figure out why dansguardian does not stop at all, anyone can help me, please? I have searched internet for hours, but no answer found. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: want to speed up laptop
Douglas A. Tutty wrote: xfce used to use gtk1. It now uses gtk2 which is far more bloated which makes it slower. It also uses more memory... Icewm does not, and OpenBox may not either. You could try those. currently i use FVWM-Crystal as my default desktop environment with Fluxbox as my "secondary". i _really_ like FVWM-Crystal now after i finally took the time to set it up. it gives me just enough 'eye candy' without the bloat. other than the quake terminal i use xfce4-terminal for most everything. largely for the configuration options and especially since it won't annoy me when i press 'F10' while using midnight commander. -- Arrant Drivel - really, it's just trash... http://www.arrantdrivel.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What is this ata exception
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 02:04:28PM +, T o n g wrote: > I saw the following for the first time when I rebooted just now: > Mar 31 09:10:04 cxmr kernel: ata1.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 > action 0x2 frozen > Mar 31 09:10:04 cxmr kernel: ata1.00: cmd b0/d2:f1:00:4f:c2/00:00:00:00:00/00 > tag 0 cdb 0x0 data 123392 in > Mar 31 09:10:04 cxmr kernel: res 50/00:f1:00:4f:c2/00:00:00:00:00/00 Emask > 0x202 (HSM violation) > Mar 31 09:10:04 cxmr kernel: ata1: soft resetting port > Mar 31 09:10:04 cxmr kernel: ata1.00: configured for UDMA/133 > Mar 31 09:10:04 cxmr kernel: ata1: EH complete > Mar 31 09:10:04 cxmr kernel: ata1.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 > action 0x2 frozen > Mar 31 09:10:04 cxmr kernel: ata1.00: cmd b0/d2:f1:00:4f:c2/00:00:00:00:00/00 > tag 0 cdb 0x0 data 123392 in > Mar 31 09:10:04 cxmr kernel: res 50/00:f1:00:4f:c2/00:00:00:00:00/00 Emask > 0x202 (HSM violation) > Mar 31 09:10:04 cxmr kernel: ata1: soft resetting port > Mar 31 09:10:04 cxmr kernel: ata1.00: configured for UDMA/133 > Mar 31 09:10:04 cxmr kernel: ata1: EH complete > > It repeated several times after. What does it mean? Doesn't look good whatever it is. Hope you have a good reliable backup. > FYI, my box experiences sudden freeze and lock up recently so I enabled my > smart monitor. In fact the reason for the reboot is that the system locked > up entirely. It all goes like this, I didn't do anything, and it freezes. This doesn't sound good either. > BTW, I am still not quite sure what will happen when I enabled smartd. Do > I get report from cron, or I have to pull it myself from time to time? See man smartctl. You run a -t long test on the drive which will tell you how long the test will take. Wait at least that long and use smartctl to check the results. Ideally "completed without error" but you will also get a list of all smart parameter values so you can see how things are going. NB: if SMART says that the drive is failing believe it. If SMART says that the drive is fine, look further. Check the drive temp, listen to it, watch those errors. Given those errors, I'd be checking the warranty on the drive. Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: most lightweight debian server
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 08:10:07PM +0800, paragasu wrote: > > There is a lot more than just the I/O scheduler. It just popped into my > > head because I am doing the configuration right now, myself, and because > > of the debate/controversy about it. Also, you will want to build the > > device drivers you need as modules, and configure the system to unload > > modules when they aren't needed. > > > > Trim everything mercilessly. Examples: You don't need battery support > > if the computer is not a laptop. If you don't need anything but basic > > cryptographic support, leave it out, and do crypt in user space. If the > > thing only has one NIC, or one type of NIC (i.e., all the same), leave > > out support for all the others. (In general, if you don't have the > > hardware, you don't need the code.) Leave out as much debug code as you > > can. > > > > And so on, etc. > > > > The 2.6 kernel is a little bloated IMO. I don't think that three I/O > > schedulers need to be compiled in, but you can do that, and pick which > > one to use at boot time. (For example.) (There's a config file.) > > > > I would suggest going to the 2.4 kernel, but too much hardware and > > software depends on 2.6 now to revert. > > > > > > > > -- > > Mark Allums > > > > i will love to find out all the option available. I just one to ask one more > thing. i hope it > is not too much. Isn't the kernel have modular support. able to load and > unload the > needed and unneeded modules on the fly? > How much is the improvement compare to the strip down version of kernel > compared > to the modular version in term of performance? (i know disk space is out of > question, > strip down produce small kernel size) Remember, every time there's a kernel update, you'll have to go through the whole thing again and hope that the same config works (that the bug fix didn't change dependancies between the things you tried to leave out) and do full testing. Its far easier just to use OpenBSD GENERIC. Lets you focus on getting work done instead of being a kernel hacker all the time. Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: svn command
On 2008-03-31T15:45:49+0100, Rodolfo Medina wrote: > What package should I install in my Debian Etch system to use the `svn' > command? My search was not successful. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ apt-file search svn|grep 'bin/svn$' subversion: usr/bin/svn /Allan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: want to speed up laptop
On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 10:46:44PM -0400, Michael Yang wrote: > On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 8:26 AM, jeffry s <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 10:11 AM, Rich Healey > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Chris Bannister wrote: > > > > On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 09:12:06AM -0500, Preston Boyington > > > > wrote: > > > >> Chris Bannister wrote: > > > >>> Where are your bottlenecks? > > > >> currently my two biggest bottlenecks are with the networking > > > >> and the MTA. i installed "ifplugd" and set a faster timeout > > > >> for the network and that has helped. i don't really "need" a > > > >> MTA for my laptop and will be looking for some alternative. > > > >> have thought about just removing Exim and dealing with whatever > > > >> dependency issues arise. i can always just look at the log > > > >> files for info if i need to. > > > > > > > > I think that is a DNS lookup issue. > > > > > > > use xfce4 instead of gnome or kde. it help a lot. my laptop is old > > via c3 processor. run more happy with xfce. using gnome will take > > some time to open window especially nautilus use so much resource. > > > > I'm using xfce4 now. It seems to me it's also getting slower (been > using for a long time now), I'm wondering if there's any tools to > analyze the system performance? xfce used to use gtk1. It now uses gtk2 which is far more bloated which makes it slower. It also uses more memory. Try running top in an xterm and see what's happening. Look especially for wait% which refers to waiting for I/O and check swap. On my old boxes, most things hit swap. Icewm does not, and OpenBox may not either. You could try those. Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Disabled /etc/network/if-up.d/avahi-daemon: adverse reactions?
On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 05:38:17PM -0500, Mumia W.. wrote: > My booting of Etch was being slowed by > /etc/network/if-up.d/avahi-daemon, so I removed execute permissions from > that file, and now my boots are 10 seconds faster. > > However, the avahi-daemon still starts. Will there be any adverse > consequences to disabling .../avahi-daemon on my system? > > I'm a dialup user, and I assigned a static IP address to eth0, so I'm > hoping I don't need the avahi-daemon at all. (However, I'm not to clear > on what it does.) I don't have it installed at all. Then again, I don't use gnome. I just checked aptitude and some pice of gnome depends on avahi-daemon. Check on your system and see what's keeping it installed. If gnome requires it, to me that would be another reason not to use gnome. Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Dovecot and Resolvconf issues
Thanks a lot. В пн, 2008-03-31 в 23:39 +0900, Osamu Aoki написа: > Hi, > > On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 04:01:56PM +0300, chavdar wrote: > > Dear list, > > 2. Resolvconf > > So far, we manipulated our network settings for the server > > through /etc/resolv.conf - where we supply a list of DNS servers to be > > querried. > > The new system has that file, manipulated by the program resolvconf, and > > any changes we put there are being wiped out periodically. man > > resolvconf has no solution and we are stuck, because we rely on another > > host for DNS. > > You do not write directly to /etc/resolv.conf if you are using > resolvconf. Just remove it and manually configure /etc/resolv.conf. I did that. Now it should be working as you explained. I must have skipped this explanation in the man pages. > > /usr/share/doc/resolvconf/README.gz > > > README has: > > > Usage information for administrators > > The generation of the resolv.conf file can be controlled by editing > /etc/resolvconf/update.d/libc . Different strategies can be > followed. E.g., one possible strategy would be to put only the most > recently provided information into resolv.conf . The current default > strategy is to put *all* available resolver information into > resolv.conf, ordered by interface type as follows: lo, eth*, ppp* . > > The admin can of course disable resolv.conf automagic by deleting the > /etc/resolv.conf symlink and putting a static file at that location. > > Once you have installed resolvconf properly you don't normally need > to run /sbin/resolvconf from the command line. However, I once > encountered a situation in which I did that. Perhaps it is a useful > illustration. My ISP's nameserver went down and thus my caching > nameserver could not resolve names. I knew of another host belonging > to by ISP that I could use so I simply did: > # echo "nameserver ww.xx.yy.zz" | resolvconf -a dummy > This added the necessary nameserver line to /etc/resolv.conf and to > dnsmasq's nameserver list. When my ISP's regular nameserver was fixed > I did: > # resolvconf -d dummy > > > > Please, if you have solution to these issues, share them with us because > > otherwise our mailserver is working perfectly well and we would like to > > keep it. > > > http://people.debian.org/~osamu/pub/getwiki/html/ch06.en.html#thehostnameresolution > > I hope this new tutorial also makes it easy to find your answer. > > Osamu > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apache2 does not display blosxom blog (resolved)
* Steve Kemp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [080331 08:56]: > On Mon Mar 31, 2008 at 00:37:14 -0500, Russell L. Harris wrote: > > > Regarding alternatives to Blosxom: Blosxom is written in Perl. A > > clone (which since has taken on a life of its own) is Pyblosxom, which > > is written in Python. Both are CGI scripts. > > If you're not accepting comments, or not immediately at least, > you might prefer something which outputs static HTML to your > site, instead of a CGI. > > For example ikiwiki can do this, or my 'chronicle' package. I am aware that Blosxom/Pyblosxom can do static output, but I don't understand the implications of static versus dynamic. This morning it occurred to me that a major pain in blogging is the necessity of (1) switching between typesetter's quotation marks and typewriter-style quotation marks and (2) removing embedded linefeeds before handing off the blog to WordPress. The switching comes about because I prefer to compose in LaTeX mode in XEmacs -- the mode I use for articles for the web site. (I could customize LaTeX text mode, but I haven't had the time.) And it also occurred to me that I already am using HeVeA to automatically provide a HTML version of each website article. On my web site, the articles (which often run twenty pages and have complex formatting, including footnotes) are posted in PDF format to facilitate printing. But requests from visually-impaired visitors prompted me to add an HTML of each article, so that the visitor can use his browser to enlarge the text. Now, Blosxom was intended to serve posts with HTML formatting (typically rudimentary and hand-coded). With about a day's effort, I can put together a pair of LaTeX and HeVeA class definitions suitable for the blog. By using LaTeX and xdvi, I can view a typeset version of the blog post as I compose it. And HeVeA automatically generates the HTML version of the post for Blosxom to serve, taking care of the switch from typesetter quotation marks to typewriter-style quotation marks. Like LaTeX, HeVeA doesn't mind embedded linefeeds. The beauty of this approach is that, if I subsequently decide to expand a blog post into a web site article, no alterations are required. I simply lift the text #from the blog template and drop it into an article template. Moreover, no alteration of formatting is necessary for headings and for items such as bulleted or numbered lists. Finally, virtually no additional effort or complexity, I can create a PDF version of each blog post, which solves the problem of printing out blog posts (a matter to which few blog authors give consideration). RLH -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IBM DB2 V9.5 32 bits failed to allocate share memory
Ok in fact what I have saw is this First, db2 start with 256m share memory ... So it's ok, they are be able to do it on both system Second, they try to change by following the memory of the system On redhat, it's ok On debian, they don't do it properly Perhaps it set a too high value I have try the express version, so no support for that I think I could try to ask I'm waiting for a new version of db2 I will see if the problem persist Thanks for support Chris Bannister a écrit : > On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 09:46:19AM +0100, cypherstrong wrote: > >> I have already try to change it manually but DB2 auto rewrite the shmmax >> value >> > > Even in redhat? But it works in redhat? > > >> I have try to start db2 and after set the shmmax, but they still crash >> with same error. >> > > Annoying. > > >> Perhaps it's a bug of the db2 v9.5 fixpack 0 of ibm soft because older >> version work fine without anything to do. >> > > Presuming you paid for this software, what does support have to say? > > >> They is a way to tell to db2 to don't change this value himself ? >> > > I don't know about db2. I use postgreSQL and it works out of the box. > > signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: I would like to give my congradulation
Andrei Popescu wrote: On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 11:00:50PM +0100, Sjoerd Hiemstra wrote: Chris Bannister wrote: I think xmms is no more anyway. A number of distros have dropped xmms. As far as I vaguely remember, the reason is that it still uses gtk1, and there were certain problems preventing it from being upgraded to gtk2. Audacious is one of its successors, you could use that one instead. However, Debian is one of the distros still carrying xmms. With 'still' beeing the key word here. It is only available in stable and was already removed from testing. I see it under unstable also: Package: xmms (1:1.2.10+20070601-1 and others) [debports] What's 'debports'? Hugo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sendmail configuration
T o n g wrote: On Thu, 20 Mar 2008 16:17:51 -0700, Richard A Nelson wrote: On Wednesday 19 March 2008 03:21:17 am Andrius wrote: how to configure Sendmail to send a messages through ISP SMTP server? Install sendmail-doc and check /usr/share/doc/sendmail/cf.README.gz for SMART_HOST ( define(`SMART_HOST', `')dnl ) On Wed, 19 Mar 2008, Paul Johnson wrote: It's probably best to avoid sendmail if you're new to setting up email and go with the debian default of exim instead. I'll assume you were trying to be helpful (and simply failed), and not trying to start another MTA pissing contest. Quite agree. The OP asked for Sendmail, so let's keep our focus on Sendmail, instead of launching religious war each time. In fact, when the ISP SMTP server need encrypted authentication, I just can't get exim to work, despite googling and asking for help in various channels including this mlist. When swithed back to Sendmail, I found the answer just by googling, without a single question asked. Andrius, if you don't know what to next after Richard's step, here is a short guide: http://xpt.sourceforge.net/techdocs/nix/conn/mail/sendmail/sndm06-SendmailSmartHostConfiguration/index.html#Sendmail_Smart_Host Thank you. The bat book now is on my table. Very interesting thing is Sendmail. Regards, Andrius -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: most lightweight debian server
Mark Allums wrote: paragasu wrote: i will love to find out all the option available. I just one to ask one more thing. i hope it is not too much. Isn't the kernel have modular support. able to load and unload the needed and unneeded modules on the fly? How much is the improvement compare to the strip down version of kernel compared to the modular version in term of performance? (i know disk space is out of question, strip down produce small kernel size) Stripped down will generally be about the same or possibly faster. However, using alternative options, like the I/O scheduler example, will affect your performance, mostly negatively. The kernel has been optimized for performance already; making drastic changes may result in a slower kernel. You can also configure the kernel for the architecture, e.g. generic i686 vs. Athlon 64 vs. Core 2. A kernel compiled for Athlon 64 will run faster on an Athlon 64 than it will on a Core 2. A kernel compiled for the Core 2 will run faster on a Core 2 than a kernel compiled for generic i686 will run on the same Core 2. Just more examples. Memory vs. speed is often a tradeoff. Faster = more memory, usually. -- Mark Allums -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Dovecot and Resolvconf issues
Hi, On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 04:01:56PM +0300, chavdar wrote: > Dear list, > 2. Resolvconf > So far, we manipulated our network settings for the server > through /etc/resolv.conf - where we supply a list of DNS servers to be > querried. > The new system has that file, manipulated by the program resolvconf, and > any changes we put there are being wiped out periodically. man > resolvconf has no solution and we are stuck, because we rely on another > host for DNS. You do not write directly to /etc/resolv.conf if you are using resolvconf. Just remove it and manually configure /etc/resolv.conf. /usr/share/doc/resolvconf/README.gz > You may have noticed that I seldom post here and never complained, but > these changes are too dramatic and not documented (after reading all > info at dovecot website and wiki, we are certain that our config is > allright). README has: Usage information for administrators The generation of the resolv.conf file can be controlled by editing /etc/resolvconf/update.d/libc . Different strategies can be followed. E.g., one possible strategy would be to put only the most recently provided information into resolv.conf . The current default strategy is to put *all* available resolver information into resolv.conf, ordered by interface type as follows: lo, eth*, ppp* . The admin can of course disable resolv.conf automagic by deleting the /etc/resolv.conf symlink and putting a static file at that location. Once you have installed resolvconf properly you don't normally need to run /sbin/resolvconf from the command line. However, I once encountered a situation in which I did that. Perhaps it is a useful illustration. My ISP's nameserver went down and thus my caching nameserver could not resolve names. I knew of another host belonging to by ISP that I could use so I simply did: # echo "nameserver ww.xx.yy.zz" | resolvconf -a dummy This added the necessary nameserver line to /etc/resolv.conf and to dnsmasq's nameserver list. When my ISP's regular nameserver was fixed I did: # resolvconf -d dummy > Please, if you have solution to these issues, share them with us because > otherwise our mailserver is working perfectly well and we would like to > keep it. http://people.debian.org/~osamu/pub/getwiki/html/ch06.en.html#thehostnameresolution I hope this new tutorial also makes it easy to find your answer. Osamu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: svn command
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 03:45:49PM +0100, Rodolfo Medina wrote: > Hi to Debian users. > > What package should I install in my Debian Etch system to use the `svn' > command? My search was not successful. apt-get install subversion > Thanks for any reply > Rodolfo --Greg -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Wireless2
On Monday 31 March 2008 16:18, Jonathan Smith wrote: > Hello, > > I assume if I get the following messages: > lono wireless extensions. > > eth1 no wireless extensions. > > eth0 no wireless extensions. > > sit0 no wireless extensions. > > I do not have wireless extentions. Where can I obtain these? > > Thanks, No, it may only means that you don't have the driver for the card. I guess your card is a PCI card, so do, as root: update-pciids and then: lspci and give us the output of that last command. Thierry -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: most lightweight debian server
paragasu wrote: i will love to find out all the option available. I just one to ask one more thing. i hope it is not too much. Isn't the kernel have modular support. able to load and unload the needed and unneeded modules on the fly? How much is the improvement compare to the strip down version of kernel compared to the modular version in term of performance? (i know disk space is out of question, strip down produce small kernel size) The kernel itself it not especially modular. However, there are many, many options to leave unnecessary code out of it. The device drivers are the exception. The kernel was improved a long time ago to allow the loading of drivers as modules. Unloading has been possible, but it had to be done explicitly. Now the kernel can be configured to load and unload modules automatically. Be sure and enable that option when you are configuring your version of the kernel. (Well, maybe. That option will make the kernel bigger. It might be better to load and unload modules manually. Hm...) The size of the kernel isn't the only factor. Many things require "kernel memory". The kernel keeps housekeeping information. For instance, the scheduler needs to keep track of how recently a thread has had the CPU (to prevent starvation). A simpler scheduler may use less memory, because it keeps track of fewer statistics. All of these things I mentioned are merely examples. Other people can advise you better on the specific things you need to be considering. -- Mark Allums -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
svn command
Hi to Debian users. What package should I install in my Debian Etch system to use the `svn' command? My search was not successful. Thanks for any reply Rodolfo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Wireless2
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 10:18:51AM -0400, Jonathan Smith wrote: > Hello, > > I assume if I get the following messages: > lono wireless extensions. > > eth1 no wireless extensions. > > eth0 no wireless extensions. > > sit0 no wireless extensions. > > I do not have wireless extentions. Where can I obtain these? > > Thanks, Could you give us some more info, like: what wireless card you have? What CPU? etc. -K -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal |mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/| | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keyserver: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | |join the new debian-community.org to help Debian! | |___ Unless I ask to be CCd, assume I am subscribed ___| -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RAID suggestions?
On Fri, 28 Mar 2008, Stephan Seitz wrote: > On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 10:41:27PM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: >> Then DROP the idea of hw-raid. Get a damn good SATA/SCSI/SAS HBA, and >> use software raid. BTW, damn good means no VIA, SiS, nVidia, or other >> el-cheap-o half-broken SATA > > Can you give some examples for a good SATA HBA? No, sorry. Usually the ones with the latest SIL devices, or those with hybrid SAS/SATA bridges are good. > While I???m quite convinced that software raid is more flexible than > hardware raid (at least for RAID 1), I know that I can do hotplug stuff > with my 3ware (or the PERC 5/i in our Dell servers). And the last time I A 3ware board is probably a damn good SATA HBA when in JBOD mode... > checked with the kernel SATA support, hotplugging disks was not very > well supported. Hmm? It works perfectly, it just complains a damn big lot if you hot-remove a disk *without* issuing a command to detach it from the logical SCSI bus first. What is damn bad is that any late interrupts from the SATA HBA, regardless of the reason, may cause the kernel to kill an IRQ line, and send the entire system into a spiral of ugly death. This is a general Linux issue re. interrupts, though. Maybe MSI-capable HBAs avoid this Linux shortcoming... Note that *any* PCI board using normal PCI IRQs are affected, this includes any HW RAID card. Only, HW RAID cards have something else between the SATA bridges and the host, which will usually eat up stray interrupts :-) > With my 3ware controller I can use tw_cli or the GUI to rescan for a new > disk or to remove it and I use this feature for backup. How would I do > this with a ???normal??? SATA controller? Using the Linux SCSI layer, and mdadm. Look for the "scsiadd" and "mdadm" manpages, and also read the documentation on SCSI sysfs (which can do what scsiadd does using IOCTLs). Udev can be used for hotplug notification (insertion). The hot-UN-plug is the problem, the system doesn't differentiate it from a disk gone bad yet, IME, so you have to scsiadd -r the disk before you pull it out. -- "One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond where the shadows lie." -- The Silicon Valley Tarot Henrique Holschuh -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Wireless2
Hello, I assume if I get the following messages: lono wireless extensions. eth1 no wireless extensions. eth0 no wireless extensions. sit0 no wireless extensions. I do not have wireless extentions. Where can I obtain these? Thanks, -- Jonathan Wynn Smith Doctoral Student in Howard University Program in Atmospheric Science Washington, DC 20059 336-601-4563 (cell) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (e-mail)
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Hi Johnathan, I am forwarding your message to the debian-user list which is more appropriate for a user question. The -devel list is for issue related to the development of the Debian distribution. Cheers, Kev - Forwarded message from Jonathan Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 08:45:00 -0400 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-FOLDER: .floss.debian_devel/ X-policyd-weight: DYN_NJABL=ERR NOT_IN_SBL_XBL_SPAMHAUS=-1.5 NOT_IN_BL_NJABL=-1.5 CL_IP_EQ_HELO_IP=-2 (check from: .gmail. - helo: .wr-out-0506.google. - helo-domain: .google.) FROM/MX_MATCHES_HELO(DOMAIN)=-2 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, rate: -7 X-procmail: spamc Hello How do I find wireless conncections on Debian? I have installed Debian 4.0. Thanks -- Jonathan Wynn Smith Doctoral Student in Howard University Program in Atmospheric Science Washington, DC 20059 336-601-4563 (cell) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (e-mail) - End forwarded message - -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal |mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/| | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keyserver: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | |join the new debian-community.org to help Debian! | |___ Unless I ask to be CCd, assume I am subscribed ___| -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
OCR friendly fonts - saving GPG key safely
Hi, Does anyone know OCR friendly fonts. I am trying to print things like gnupg keys and recover it by OCR. It has to be fixed width font. (Experiment was done via PDF(OOffice)->graphic(Gimp). gocr was usable but tesseract was not at first try.) Bitstream was best but F was converted to f. Courier caused more mistakes. OCR A font was much worse. Osamu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Wireless
Hello, What is the best way to obtain wireless internet on Debian. I have version 4.0. Thanks -- Jonathan Wynn Smith Doctoral Student in Howard University Program in Atmospheric Science Washington, DC 20059 336-601-4563 (cell) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (e-mail)
Re: Can we run a qemu instance as a dedicated home network firewall?
On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 11:20:26 -0400, Mitchell Laks wrote: > Can we use a virtual qemu linux machine as a firewall for > a real home network? > > I have a small network at home, with a few desktops and a DMZ and > a linux firewall machine. > > Now that virtualization is working for me, via qemu, I would like to get rid > of all the old equipment that I use for little tasks. > > Ie I have > 1) old 486 machine F used as dedicated arno-firetables firewall. > 2) old 486 machine D used as dedicated web server in DMZ. > 3) plus a few workstations on a LAN call them A, B C. > > Internet -> firewall machine F -> local LAN ->machines A, B, C > -> DMZ ->web server on D > > 1. Here F does NAT for machines A, B, C on 192.168.100.* . > 2. While F gets an outside internet IP via dhcp from my cable provider. > 3. F has 2 physical NIC cards. > > My question is: > Can I replace F (and D) by virtual machines running on one of my desktop > machines A? Sure NP. But if I were you, I'd keep those old equipment, for firewall at least. Keep them headless, using virtual keyboard to config (Ah, forgot the link!). Anyway, if you do want to get rid of all the old equipments, qemu virtualization might not be the best solution. Give Linux-VServer a look, http://xpt.sourceforge.net/techdocs/nix/virtual/vt03-LinuxVServerInfo/ "Linux-VServer is a jail mechanism in that it can be used to securely partition resources on a computer system (such as the file system, CPU time, network addresses and memory) in such a way that processes cannot mount a denial-of-service attack on anything outside their partition. " It will "share the same system call interface and do not have any emulation overhead". "Virtual private servers are commonly used in web hosting services, where they are useful for segregating customer accounts, pooling resources and containing any potential security breaches". Special care has been taken to save HD space. HTH -- Tong (remove underscore(s) to reply) http://xpt.sourceforge.net/techdocs/ http://xpt.sourceforge.net/tools/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
What is this ata exception
Hi, I saw the following for the first time when I rebooted just now: Mar 31 09:10:04 cxmr kernel: ata1.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x2 frozen Mar 31 09:10:04 cxmr kernel: ata1.00: cmd b0/d2:f1:00:4f:c2/00:00:00:00:00/00 tag 0 cdb 0x0 data 123392 in Mar 31 09:10:04 cxmr kernel: res 50/00:f1:00:4f:c2/00:00:00:00:00/00 Emask 0x202 (HSM violation) Mar 31 09:10:04 cxmr kernel: ata1: soft resetting port Mar 31 09:10:04 cxmr kernel: ata1.00: configured for UDMA/133 Mar 31 09:10:04 cxmr kernel: ata1: EH complete Mar 31 09:10:04 cxmr kernel: ata1.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x2 frozen Mar 31 09:10:04 cxmr kernel: ata1.00: cmd b0/d2:f1:00:4f:c2/00:00:00:00:00/00 tag 0 cdb 0x0 data 123392 in Mar 31 09:10:04 cxmr kernel: res 50/00:f1:00:4f:c2/00:00:00:00:00/00 Emask 0x202 (HSM violation) Mar 31 09:10:04 cxmr kernel: ata1: soft resetting port Mar 31 09:10:04 cxmr kernel: ata1.00: configured for UDMA/133 Mar 31 09:10:04 cxmr kernel: ata1: EH complete It repeated several times after. What does it mean? FYI, my box experiences sudden freeze and lock up recently so I enabled my smart monitor. In fact the reason for the reboot is that the system locked up entirely. It all goes like this, I didn't do anything, and it freezes. BTW, I am still not quite sure what will happen when I enabled smartd. Do I get report from cron, or I have to pull it myself from time to time? Thanks -- Tong (remove underscore(s) to reply) http://xpt.sourceforge.net/techdocs/ http://xpt.sourceforge.net/tools/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sendmail configuration
On Thu, 20 Mar 2008 16:17:51 -0700, Richard A Nelson wrote: > On Wednesday 19 March 2008 03:21:17 am Andrius wrote: > >> how to configure Sendmail to send a messages through ISP SMTP server? > > Install sendmail-doc and check /usr/share/doc/sendmail/cf.README.gz > for SMART_HOST ( define(`SMART_HOST', `')dnl ) > > On Wed, 19 Mar 2008, Paul Johnson wrote: > >> It's probably best to avoid sendmail if you're new to setting up email and go >> with the debian default of exim instead. > > I'll assume you were trying to be helpful (and simply failed), and not > trying to start another MTA pissing contest. Quite agree. The OP asked for Sendmail, so let's keep our focus on Sendmail, instead of launching religious war each time. In fact, when the ISP SMTP server need encrypted authentication, I just can't get exim to work, despite googling and asking for help in various channels including this mlist. When swithed back to Sendmail, I found the answer just by googling, without a single question asked. Andrius, if you don't know what to next after Richard's step, here is a short guide: http://xpt.sourceforge.net/techdocs/nix/conn/mail/sendmail/sndm06-SendmailSmartHostConfiguration/index.html#Sendmail_Smart_Host -- Tong (remove underscore(s) to reply) http://xpt.sourceforge.net/techdocs/ http://xpt.sourceforge.net/tools/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
icedove: pdf-attachment as Content-Type: app_lication/x-ms_down_load
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hallo debian expertise! I just got an email automatically returned from an 'connntent checccker' (deliberate misspelling to get the mail through debian's tough spam filters): > banned name: application/x-msdownload In fact I just sent a pdf attachement with icedove/etch. Looking closer at it, the plain text source of my e-mail contains mime parts: (All underscores are by me. Humans: please ignore) /= Con_tent-Type: appl_ic_ation/x-msdown_load; name="nnn.pdf" Con_tent-Trans_fer-Enc_oding: base64 Con_tent-Dis_posi_tion: inline; file_name="nnn.pdf" \= where it should probably read something like: /= Con_tent-Type: app_lication/pdf Con_tent-Dis_posi_tion: atta_chment; filename="nnn.pdf" Con_tent-Trans_fer-En_coding: base64 \= (copied from a similar mail from mutt). How should I configure icedove in order to revert to the 'app_lication/pdf' state it had some months ago (before a security update?)? It was all fine and application/pdf on Wed Feb 20 16:02:07 2008; it appears to be all bad application/x-msdownload since Wed Mar 26 15:26:23 2008 (or earlier). Thanks, Johannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFH8Of/C1NzPRl9qEURApkaAJ0f89lFPfO+UW8gbZHTuzrjU0SaGQCdF+PJ 8S/VY1tT9cXK5eVa2ur07gc= =4XYr -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dovecot and Resolvconf issues
Dear list, It seems the new update of the stable flavour messed up things a bit, as a result our mailserver after update has certain issues. We lost our mailserver after hard drive malfunction, however managed to save configs. But these configs with new debian wouldn't work. Mailserver before the failure was a sarge system updated to etch via aptitude dist-upgrade. Mailserver with new hardware is brand new revision of etch. 1. Dovecot package New dovecot wouldn't start with old config file, because parameter names are different. When we edit the new config file in analogy with the old version, dovecot (imap/pop3) would not permit login of mail clients (Evolution, etc): Error sending username: -ERR Plaintext authentication disabled. Yes, it is disabled in the configuration, but in old configuration is disabled and login works. Nothing we did improved the situation, so we had to downgrade dovecot to sarge version. But our system is etch and new updates may overlap current version of software and we may lose our server again. 2. Resolvconf So far, we manipulated our network settings for the server through /etc/resolv.conf - where we supply a list of DNS servers to be querried. The new system has that file, manipulated by the program resolvconf, and any changes we put there are being wiped out periodically. man resolvconf has no solution and we are stuck, because we rely on another host for DNS. You may have noticed that I seldom post here and never complained, but these changes are too dramatic and not documented (after reading all info at dovecot website and wiki, we are certain that our config is allright). Please, if you have solution to these issues, share them with us because otherwise our mailserver is working perfectly well and we would like to keep it. Best regards Chavdar Videff -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What are these folders in home?
paragasu wrote: > AFAIK, > you can delete all files in $HOME directory. especially the hidden files. > the worst you will get is you lost some setting of the program. But you > can login > just fine. > One has to be careful. For example, Kmail (from KDE) uses .kde to store all the mail. If some one deletes the .kde directory thinking that it is just a bunch of rc files they would be in for a nice surprise. raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
dmesg reports connection of mass storage device but no kde pop-up nor device file created
I plugged in a USB mass storage device into my pc running Debian Unstable and unlike several months ago, did not get a notification from KDE that the device had been discovered. dmesg reported: usb 2-2: new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 4 usb 2-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice usb 2-2: New USB device found, idVendor=0944, idProduct=0001 usb 2-2: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=0 usb 2-2: Product: PXR4 usb 2-2: Manufacturer: KORG INC. Is any customisation needed for udev / HAL to create a device file when this device is discovered? I'd like it to auto-mount as /mnt/usbdrive -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What are these folders in home?
On 31/03/2008, paragasu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > AFAIK, > you can delete all files in $HOME directory. especially the hidden files. > the worst you will get is you lost some setting of the program. But you can > login just fine. That's what I figured, but: > be careful. ;) That's why I ask! Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
Re: most lightweight debian server
> There is a lot more than just the I/O scheduler. It just popped into my > head because I am doing the configuration right now, myself, and because > of the debate/controversy about it. Also, you will want to build the > device drivers you need as modules, and configure the system to unload > modules when they aren't needed. > > Trim everything mercilessly. Examples: You don't need battery support > if the computer is not a laptop. If you don't need anything but basic > cryptographic support, leave it out, and do crypt in user space. If the > thing only has one NIC, or one type of NIC (i.e., all the same), leave > out support for all the others. (In general, if you don't have the > hardware, you don't need the code.) Leave out as much debug code as you > can. > > And so on, etc. > > The 2.6 kernel is a little bloated IMO. I don't think that three I/O > schedulers need to be compiled in, but you can do that, and pick which > one to use at boot time. (For example.) (There's a config file.) > > I would suggest going to the 2.4 kernel, but too much hardware and > software depends on 2.6 now to revert. > > > > -- > Mark Allums > i will love to find out all the option available. I just one to ask one more thing. i hope it is not too much. Isn't the kernel have modular support. able to load and unload the needed and unneeded modules on the fly? How much is the improvement compare to the strip down version of kernel compared to the modular version in term of performance? (i know disk space is out of question, strip down produce small kernel size)
Re: most lightweight debian server
paragasu wrote: thanks Mark Allums, Honestly, i spent less time looking on the kernel side. i will look at the documentation for the I/O scheduler options. great information you have ;) Ron Johnson gets the credit. The idea is, you are low on RAM, so prevent anything from using RAM. If you don't need it, it has to go. Use BusyBox. There are Linux distributions that specialize in being smaller footprint, but you have been expressing a desire to use Debian specifically. Besides, most of them are specialized, like DamnSmallLinux. But you can take your cues from them. -- Mark Allums -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: most lightweight debian server
paragasu wrote: There are three I/O schedulers in the 2.6.24 distribution. The deadline, anticipatory, and completely fair. You will see these as options when you run make gconfig (or whichever config you run). Completely Fair (CFQ) is now the default. This was mildly controversial when they made the switch. It is a bit complex. The deadline scheduler is simple and compact, and is alleged to be good for heavy database workloads. This may be a bit like making a mountain out of a molehill. I just mentioned this because while you are configuring you custom kernel, you will want to give a little thought to such matters. see /usr/src/linux/Documentation/ to start with. thanks Mark Allums, Honestly, i spent less time looking on the kernel side. i will look at the documentation for the I/O scheduler options. great information you have ;) There is a lot more than just the I/O scheduler. It just popped into my head because I am doing the configuration right now, myself, and because of the debate/controversy about it. Also, you will want to build the device drivers you need as modules, and configure the system to unload modules when they aren't needed. Trim everything mercilessly. Examples: You don't need battery support if the computer is not a laptop. If you don't need anything but basic cryptographic support, leave it out, and do crypt in user space. If the thing only has one NIC, or one type of NIC (i.e., all the same), leave out support for all the others. (In general, if you don't have the hardware, you don't need the code.) Leave out as much debug code as you can. And so on, etc. The 2.6 kernel is a little bloated IMO. I don't think that three I/O schedulers need to be compiled in, but you can do that, and pick which one to use at boot time. (For example.) (There's a config file.) I would suggest going to the 2.4 kernel, but too much hardware and software depends on 2.6 now to revert. -- Mark Allums -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apache2 does not display blosxom blog (resolved)
On Mon Mar 31, 2008 at 00:37:14 -0500, Russell L. Harris wrote: > Regarding alternatives to Blosxom: Blosxom is written in Perl. A > clone (which since has taken on a life of its own) is Pyblosxom, which > is written in Python. Both are CGI scripts. If you're not accepting comments, or not immediately at least, you might prefer something which outputs static HTML to your site, instead of a CGI. For example ikiwiki can do this, or my 'chronicle' package. Steve -- Managed Anti-Spam Service http://mail-scanning.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What are these folders in home?
AFAIK, you can delete all files in $HOME directory. especially the hidden files. the worst you will get is you lost some setting of the program. But you can login just fine. be careful. ;)
Re: most lightweight debian server
> There are three I/O schedulers in the 2.6.24 distribution. The > deadline, anticipatory, and completely fair. You will see these as > options when you run make gconfig (or whichever config you run). > Completely Fair (CFQ) is now the default. This was mildly controversial > when they made the switch. It is a bit complex. The deadline scheduler > is simple and compact, and is alleged to be good for heavy database > workloads. > > This may be a bit like making a mountain out of a molehill. I just > mentioned this because while you are configuring you custom kernel, you > will want to give a little thought to such matters. > > see /usr/src/linux/Documentation/ to start with. > > -- > Mark Allums > thanks Mark Allums, Honestly, i spent less time looking on the kernel side. i will look at the documentation for the I/O scheduler options. great information you have ;)
Re: Mounting Windows Samba shares without using smbfs
Arthur Marsh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hugh Lawson wrote, on 31/03/08 00:06: > > Arthur Marsh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > >> The smbfs package, which depends on samba-common includes the > >> mount.cifs binary: > > [ snip ] > > > >> The format of the /etc/fstab entry changed, requiring the IP address > >> of the remote system rather than just the NetBIOS name: > >> > >> # old format, should all be on one line: > >> #//chocolate/chocolatec /chocolatec smbfs > >> rw,guest,uid=1000,gid=1000,iocharset > >> =utf8,codepage=cp8500 0 > >> > >> # new format, should all be on one line: > >> //10.0.0.2/chocolatec /chocolatec cifs > >> rw,guest,uid=1000,gid=1000,iocharset=ut > >> f8 0 0 > > On my very small home network, the Windows computer gets its IP > > address from a router by dhcp. How to get this IP for the remote Linux > > /etc/fstab file? Can this be automated? > > I set up my router to assign IP addresses based on the MAC addresses > of the machines, having tried a few other ideas and not succeeded. One > could also assign static IPs to the machines. > > Arthur. Thanks Arthur. I didn't know about cifs. -- Hugh Lawson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cron Daemon backup message too big
Owen, Thanks for the clear explanation of the redirection. I should be all set now. -- Haines Brown, KB1GRM -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What are these folders in home?
On Monday 31 March 2008 11:45, Dotan Cohen wrote: > On 31/03/2008, Rich Healey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > ~/.xsession-errors (this one is 98 MB) > > > > ... the errors from you\r xsessions...? :P > > Can it be erased? I've no need to troubleshoot as I'm not experiencing > any problems that I know about. > Yes, kde is going to create a new one. But it may be worth to check what's in it before. And may be correct one or two problems. Thierry -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What are these folders in home?
On 31/03/2008, Rich Healey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ~/.java/ (java is a system-wide app, no? Can I erase this? I use > > OpenOffice, which I know has a java dependency) > > personal settings for java I do not remember ever setting personal settings for java, in fact, I was unaware that any settings could be set. > > ~/..DCOPserver_feisty-laptop__0 > > ll of these are the KDE process interaction server Thanks. I figured that they were KDE related because of the term DCOP but I did not realize that there was need of an interactive server. > > ~/.fishsrv.pl > > The kde SMBFS frontend Unusual, as I've never used samba > > ~/.odbc.ini > > database settings I have no database. At least, no MySQL, Oracle, or other 'database'. Maybe some programs use sqlite, but that shouldn't be related. > > ~/.rnd > random seed Thanks. > > ~/.Xauthority > Settings for usermode creation of Xservers Thanks. > > ~/.xsession-errors (this one is 98 MB) > > ... the errors from you\r xsessions...? :P Can it be erased? I've no need to troubleshoot as I'm not experiencing any problems that I know about. > ... you could probably just google themm.. Most of the files that aren't listed here I did google, but those that had me confused I asked. I'm more of a lurker than a poster on this list, and I know to STFW before consuming bandwidth. Thanks! Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
kernel panic - not syncing, attempt to kill the idle task
My friends laptop that I installed debian on for him started to give a kernel panic this morning with the message, kernel panic, not syncing, attempt to kill the idle task. I don't have physical access to it at the moment. We tried removing power and battery and pressing the power button to drain capacitors, but it didn't help. Tried booting in safe mode but it didn't help either. He doesn't have another kernel installed at the moment. Would this be a hardware (disk/memory) issue or can something else be put to blame? Could it be that just the kernel binary was corrupted and needs to be replaced? Thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: most lightweight debian server
paragasu wrote: BSD 7.0 is alleged to be better than Linux 2.6.xx, but that is disputed. You might want to use a different scheduler and I/O scheduler than the default if you use a 2.6.24 kernel. As the man said, compile your own. well, add RAM is out of question, because it is a limited to 64MB RAM resource with no intention to run GUI. no need for for DNS server. it only rum mysql5 and apache2. and might be posfix server. Postfix may not be as lightweight as others. This needs looking into. I don't have much experience in that area. but mysql5 and apach2 alone already consume 170MB of memory. more than twice the memory allocated for my use. Would SQLite do the job? I think it is smaller than MySQL. can you point me to a documentation about default I/O scheduler alternative to 2.6.24 kernel. i love to see any option available. thank you There are three I/O schedulers in the 2.6.24 distribution. The deadline, anticipatory, and completely fair. You will see these as options when you run make gconfig (or whichever config you run). Completely Fair (CFQ) is now the default. This was mildly controversial when they made the switch. It is a bit complex. The deadline scheduler is simple and compact, and is alleged to be good for heavy database workloads. This may be a bit like making a mountain out of a molehill. I just mentioned this because while you are configuring you custom kernel, you will want to give a little thought to such matters. see /usr/src/linux/Documentation/ to start with. -- Mark Allums -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cron Daemon backup message too big
On 31/03/2008, Haines Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Someone kindly communicated to me privately, and I realized that I was > not being sufficiently complete regarding my problem. > > In my backup script, I have the line: > > find / -print | egrep -v "^/media|... " 2>&1 | cat -vt > > What this command does is to concatenate stdout + errors and redirect > them to a terminal. This works fine when I call the command # backup. > > However, when cron calls it, there's no terminal to which to send the > stdout, and so apparently it is redirected by default to a mail > message. > > Could I avoid this by terminating the command line instead like this: > > 2>&1 /home/brownh/backup.log | cat -vt Hey, Almost right, though you need a redirect to the file too like so: `2>&1 1>/home/brownh/backup.log`. Note the '1' for stdout is optional, if it is left off it is assumed. This will send absolutely nothing through to `cat`. If passing through `cat` is necessary for formatting your output then use something like this: `2>&1 | cat -vt > /home/brownh/backup.log` This passes both stderr and stdout through cat and then into the log file. `2>&1` means literally send stderr to where stdout is going now. The order matters here, if you use `2>&1 >/home/brownh/backup.log` then stderr will be coming out to where stdout defaulted to (in this case to cron's mail) and stdout will be going to the file. This could also be desireable. Also, with `cat -vt` the arg '-t' == '-vT' making your argument string play out to '-vvT'. At a guess you are either after just '-t' or trying to explicitly give '-vT'. HTH, cheers, Owen. Here I clobber the contents of backup.log, which is what I want. Is the > syntax right? Will it avoid sending stdout to a mail message? > > My guess is that when I upgraded to etch, cron stdout was redirected by > default to a mail message. That's OK, except in this case it causes > exim4 to complain about the size of the message and terminate the find > command. > > > -- > >Haines Brown, KB1GRM > > > > > > -- >
Re: most lightweight debian server
> BSD 7.0 is alleged to be better than Linux 2.6.xx, but that is disputed. > You might want to use a different scheduler and I/O scheduler than the > default if you use a 2.6.24 kernel. As the man said, compile your own. > > I can't answer as well about the userlands. That depends on what > environment you are running in. You probably need a GUI in order to run > a web browser, but you might want to shy away from Gnome or KDE, they > are neither very lightweight. Pick and choose your demons and servers > carefully, e.g. do you need DNS? If not, don't install it. Someone > mentioned Apache, set up a minimal Apache, jettison unneeded modules, > (make sure everything is configured properly, so that modules are loaded > only if they are actually being used, etc.) > > Add RAM if at all possible. > well, add RAM is out of question, because it is a limited to 64MB RAM resource with no intention to run GUI. no need for for DNS server. it only rum mysql5 and apache2. and might be posfix server. but mysql5 and apach2 alone already consume 170MB of memory. more than twice the memory allocated for my use. can you point me to a documentation about default I/O scheduler alternative to 2.6.24 kernel. i love to see any option available. thank you
