ntp not any more supported in Debian or did I miss something?

[Jean-Louis Crouzet]

Hi all,

The subject shall tell you already a lot but lastely I had to remove ntp 
 from my machine. I found this unfortunate and I'm just asking here if 
this is normal or if this could have been anticipated?


Thanks,
JL


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Re: Lenny with newest installer on Thinkpad: no sound in KDE, avahiproblem

[John O'Hagan]

[...]

>This is probably exhaustively written up somewhere - but I can't find a
>concise source. Following advice on the Wiki for KDE and sound hasn't
>helped. [Alsaconf/Kmix/alsamixergui all appear to work and the volume
>icon sometimes comes up on the panel as "muted" but no sound at all :(

[...]

Check in Kmix under the "Switches" tab to see if you have "Headphone Jack
Sense". This must be off for the internal speakers to work; maybe that's your
problem (it happened to me!).

>[...]I can't get a usable dhcp lease.

>I've a feeling that avahi is intervening - the laptop always ends up
>with a 169.* address - and I don't know enough about how to get it to
>work. DHCP is being given out by a stock Linksys WRT54G which in turn is
>fed from my cable modem.

>Static IP for the ethernet in the laptop is working fine - I just don't
>want to have to wire it the whole time.

[...]

Those 169.* addresses are avahi's fallback when DHCP isn't working...sounds
like you're missing a piece of software; the easiest way if you use KDE is
installing network-manager-kde which should pull in everthing you need for
DHCP to work automatically.

HTH,

John


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Re: OT: laptop keyboard broken

[steve]

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| working anymore. Damn Small Linux showed me that the touchpad was
| still alive, but the keyboard...It doesn't even work after the POST,
| so I can't enter the BIOS. As for the rest, everything is fine, the
| system boots normally and there it waits for me to login.
|
| Is it possible to change a laptop keyboard? A USB one could do the
| trick?
|
|

should be able to plug in a usb keyboard and use that... speaking
from experience lol. my son spilled liquid on his, and used a spare
usb keyboard until i replaced it.





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OT: laptop keyboard broken

[JoseC . Rodriguez]

I was in the vecinity of Saturn when suddenly Celestia crashed (not
that surprising). Some futile attempts of raising elephants didn't
help so I hard rebooted. To my consternation my keyboard wasn't
working anymore. Damn Small Linux showed me that the touchpad was
still alive, but the keyboard...It doesn't even work after the POST,
so I can't enter the BIOS. As for the rest, everything is fine, the
system boots normally and there it waits for me to login.

Is it possible to change a laptop keyboard? A USB one could do the
trick?


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Re: gnome launch problem

[Mumia W..]

On 06/01/2008 01:20 PM, Thomas H. George wrote:

No menu bar, no tool bar.

I have been using icewm with no problems but decided to check out 
gnome.  If I log out, change the session to gnome and log in I get a 
blue screen with the Debian swirl, icons for the disk drives and my home 
directory and a short hum from the speakers but no menu bar and no tool 
bar.
I found tool bar and menu bar settings of 0,4,0,0 and 0,0,0,0 in 
.gnome/gmenu and tried changing these to values  like 0,80,0,4  or 
0,4,0,80 with no effect  even when I used /etc/init.d/gdm restart, then 
change session to gnome and logged  in.


This is not the end of the world as all the apps I use run fine with 
icewm but maybe there would be more I would like if I could start gnome.


Tom





What distribution are you using?

Open a terminal and start "gnome-panel"; if it fails to start, it should 
provide an error message that might provide a clue about what's wrong.





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Re: Re-configure x

[Walt L. Williams]

Thanks  That did the trick. I am now running at 1440 X 900 @ 24bit
Much better than I had. 

DVDs still will not play without studdering but I bet thats due to a 
lack of a decent graphics card. The motherboard has a ATI Rage 
XL chip with only 8MB of RAM. I am looking now for an appropriate 
add in card that will do the job.

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Re: Civil engineering software

[Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso]

On 01/06/2008, Shams Fantar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  I'm looking for civil engineering sofwares. Do you know a software for
>  the calculs of forces, the stability of forces, etc. ?

I'm not sure if you're comfortable setting up and solving the PDEs
yourself, but if you are, you should examine freefem and freefem3d.

Depending how much of a numericist you are, you may also be interested
in Octave.

HTH,
- Jordi G. H.


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Re: Civil engineering software

[Andrew Reid]

On Sunday 01 June 2008 09:52, Shams Fantar wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm looking for civil engineering sofwares. Do you know a software for
> the calculs of forces, the stability of forces, etc. ?

  Not sure if this meets the bill, but I can't resist the 
opportunity to plug open-source scientific software --
there is a free finite-element package available from 
the US government's standards lab, NIST.

  It's called Object-Oriented Finite-elements, or OOF.  

  It's primarily intended to model the behavior of 
systems with fairly complex geometries, for a materials-science
audience, but it's a pretty general FE system.

  So far only 2D, and only rudimentary nonlinear analysis,
but perhaps worth a look for you.



  Disclaimer: I am one of the principal developers of this 
software, and that web server has been the topic of posts
on this very list.

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Re: RAID Question

[Rico Secada]

On Sun, 01 Jun 2008 08:45:05 -0700
Jeff Grossman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I don't know, but maybe you can use this:
http://www.rigacci.org/wiki/doku.php/doc/appunti/linux/sa/raid#checking_health_of_a_raid_volume

> I am running a software RAID on my Debian Lenny system.  I have two
> hard drives using RAID 1.  It is the first Sunday of the month so the
> RAID was rebuilt this morning.  I noticed this in my log:
> 
> Jun  1 02:27:46 apple mdadm: RebuildFinished event detected on md
> device /dev/md0, component device  mismatches found: 128
> 
> It is the first time I have ever seen "mismatches found".  Is that
> bad?
> 
> Thanks,
> Jeff
> 
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Re: Civil engineering software

[Dotan Cohen]

2008/6/1 Shams Fantar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> I'm looking for civil engineering sofwares. Do you know a software for
> the calculs of forces, the stability of forces, etc. ?
>

I may be able to ask someone at the university tomorrow. What is the
equivalent Windows (or other platform) software? Be specific.

Dotan Cohen

http://what-is-what.com
http://gibberish.co.il
א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת

A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?

Re: X affecting console text color??

[Kelly Clowers]

On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 12:51 PM, Kelly Clowers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 12:09 PM, Florian Kulzer
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Also check the BTS. A quick glance shows at least 4 bugs related to VT
>> switching (#435040, #472108, #470925, #482696). Maybe your problem is
>> related to one of them.
>
> Thanks for finding those, my bugzilla-foo is not nearly strong enough yet.
> 472108 in particular looks related.

freedesktop.org bugs #13852 and #15624 may also be related.


Cheers,
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Re: X affecting console text color??

[Kelly Clowers]

On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 12:09 PM, Florian Kulzer
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Also check the BTS. A quick glance shows at least 4 bugs related to VT
> switching (#435040, #472108, #470925, #482696). Maybe your problem is
> related to one of them.

Thanks for finding those, my bugzilla-foo is not nearly strong enough yet.
472108 in particular looks related.


Cheers,
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Re: X affecting console text color??

[Florian Kulzer]

On Sun, Jun 01, 2008 at 14:27:54 +0200, Sjoerd Hiemstra wrote:
> Op Sat, May 31, 2008 at 16:39:03 +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote:
> > On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 14:10:47 +0200, Sjoerd Hiemstra wrote:
> > > My console text has the default light gray color - until X is
> > > started.
> > > 
> > > When going from X to the console with Ctrl-Alt-F2, the console
> > > foreground color has turned to dark gray, hardly readable on the
> > > black background.
> > > Even after logging out of X, back into the console, the console text
> > > remains dark gray.
> > > Only after restarting the computer, the default light gray text
> > > color has returned.
> > > 
> > > This phenomenon started 1 or 2 weeks ago, during a lenny upgrade
> > > involving a large number of files that had 'xorg' in their names.
> > > 
> > > Anyone else having this?
> > > How could X affect the default console text color?
> > 
> > Maybe a bug in the video driver screws up the video mode switching.
> > Which xorg video driver are you using?
> 
> The R300 driver, videocard is ATI Radeon 9500.
> But now we're moving towards the limits of my knowledge. How do I find
> out if this driver is still used, after the xorg upgrade 2 weeks ago?

Running

grep '/drivers/' /var/log/Xorg.0.log

should tell you which driver is loaded. It will probably be ati_drv.so,
which is a "smart" wrapper for all ATI cards. It should detect that your
card needs radeon_drv.so and load that one.

While you are at it, you might also want to check for warnings and error
messages with something like

egrep '^\((EE|WW)\)' /var/log/Xorg.0.log

> > You could try to downgrade to the previous version or test if the
> > vesa driver leads to the same problem.
> 
> Among many others, these drivers are installed:
> 
> xserver-xorg-video-ati
> xserver-xorg-video-vesa

Both ati_drv.so and radeon_drv.so are in xserver-xorg-video-ati, so you
could try to downgrade to the previous version of that package (found in
your package cache or at snapshot.debian.net).

> How to switch to the vesa driver?

Put

Driver  "vesa"

into the "Device" section of your xorg.conf. The vesa driver does not
have proper hardware acceleration, so you will probably not want to use
it permanently. This is just meant as a test to see if the ati/radeon
module is indeed the source of your problem.

To further test the ati/radeon driver, you can run

tail -fn0 /var/log/Xorg.0.log

in an X terminal, then switch to a console, switch back to X and check
the messages. Maybe something helpful, or at least google-friendly,
comes up.

Also check the BTS. A quick glance shows at least 4 bugs related to VT
switching (#435040, #472108, #470925, #482696). Maybe your problem is
related to one of them.

[...]

(I did not notice anything unusual in either version of xorg.conf.)

> E.g. 'setterm -foreground green' gives a very faint green text color,
> hardly readable, and only from a certain viewing angle on the tft
> screen.  Same with the other colors.
> Commands like 'setterm -default' or 'setterm -reset' do not make any
> difference.
> Apparently, these settings have nothing to do with it.

I think that this also suggests a problem with the graphics driver, for
example wrong configuration of the screen brightness/backlight.

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Re: X affecting console text color??

[Kelly Clowers]

On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 5:27 AM, Sjoerd Hiemstra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >
>> > Anyone else having this?
>> > How could X affect the default console text color?
>>
>> Maybe a bug in the video driver screws up the video mode switching.
>> Which xorg video driver are you using?
>
> The R300 driver, videocard is ATI Radeon 9500.
> But now we're moving towards the limits of my knowledge. How do I find
> out if this driver is still used, after the xorg upgrade 2 weeks ago?

You are almost certainly still using the same driver.
You can check in /var/log/Xorg.0.log

>> You could try to downgrade to the previous version or test if the
>> vesa driver leads to the same problem.
>
> Among many others, these drivers are installed:
>
>xserver-xorg-video-ati
>xserver-xorg-video-vesa
>
> How to switch to the vesa driver?

Put Driver  "vesa" in the Device section of xorg.conf:

Section "Device"
Identifier  "ATI Technologies Inc Radeon R300 NE [Radeon 9500 Pro]"
Driver  "vesa"
BusID   "PCI:1:0:0"
EndSection

Note that vesa cannot do much more than 1024x768

> Anyway, judging from Kelly Clowers' reply, I might wait a few months and
> revert to this if this phenomenon has not ceased to exist by then.

I am using the same driver and a Radeon 9250, BTW

On this page we can see when different version of the driver enter Debian

http://packages.qa.debian.org/x/xserver-xorg-video-ati.html

The very latest entry is what fixed my issue. I guess the 2008-05-05
migration to testing is what broke your setup. The 2008-02-19 migration
to Unstable looks like the right time for it to have broken my setup.

I looked at the Debian bug reports for ATI, and I didn't see anything
similar. A bug report ought to be filed so they know this is happening
in some cases.

I am in the process of looking at the x.org bugzilla.


Cheers,
Kelly Clowers


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gnome launch problem

[Thomas H. George]

No menu bar, no tool bar.

I have been using icewm with no problems but decided to check out 
gnome.  If I log out, change the session to gnome and log in I get a 
blue screen with the Debian swirl, icons for the disk drives and my home 
directory and a short hum from the speakers but no menu bar and no tool 
bar. 

I found tool bar and menu bar settings of 0,4,0,0 and 0,0,0,0 in 
.gnome/gmenu and tried changing these to values  like 0,80,0,4  or 
0,4,0,80 with no effect  even when I used /etc/init.d/gdm restart, then 
change session to gnome and logged  in.


This is not the end of the world as all the apps I use run fine with 
icewm but maybe there would be more I would like if I could start gnome.


Tom



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play mms streams in firefox

[Bogdan Marian]

Hey guys,

I installed the "mozilla-mplayer" package and added the 
mplayerplug-in.so library to .mozilla/plugin. Still, iceweasel says it 
has no protocol associated with mms. Can anybody help?


Thank you,

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Please, testers of hfsprogs are needed

[Rogério Brito]

Hi there.

I am the maintainer of hfsprogs, which provides both a mkfs and (more
importantly) a fsck for HFS+ filesystems (used by default on Apple's
operating system).

I have uploaded some revisions of the package to the unstable archive,
but I actually believe that everything is alright, even for production
use, but I would like to have more feedback on that.

I fixed, through a less than desirable way, a problem on amd64
(actually, a problem that would affect any 64 bit architectures), but I
have only enabled the build of one 64 bit arch (amd64) right now.

I, therefore, would appreciate if you could send me feedback on hfsprogs
so that I can improve the packaging and include other patches there, if
needed.

The following would be a good first test after installing the package:

dd if=/dev/zero of=disk.img bs=100M count=1
mkfs.hfsplus disk.img
mount -t hfsplus -o loop disk.img /some/mount/point
(perform some tests)
umount /some/mount/point
fsck.hfsplus disk.img

Feedback is appreciated in the form of bugs for it or as Cc'es to this
e-mail, as I am not subscribed currently to -user nor to -amd64 (only to
-powerpc).


Hope you find the package useful, Rogerio Brito.

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Lenny with newest installer on Thinkpad: no sound in KDE, avahi problem

[Andrew M.A. Cater]

All,

This is probably exhaustively written up somewhere - but I can't find a 
concise source. Following advice on the Wiki for KDE and sound hasn't 
helped. [Alsaconf/Kmix/alsamixergui all appear to work and the volume 
icon sometimes comes up on the panel as "muted" but no sound at all :( ]

Hardware: IBM Thinkpad R50e - Intel sound chipset, graphics, ipw2200 
wireless.

Install from debian-installer dailies dated 31 May

First of all: kudos. Installer "just worked" with an expert install. 
Base system and laptop task installed first. KDE, kdm, k3b and build 
essential installed thereafter.Thinkpad model appropriately recognised, 
buttons enabled etc.

Wireless didn't work immediately - following the advice on the wiki 
exactly and downloading the Intel version 3.0 firmware worked like a 
charm _EXCEPT_ that I can't get a usable dhcp lease.

I've a feeling that avahi is intervening - the laptop always ends up 
with a 169.* address - and I don't know enough about how to get it to 
work. DHCP is being given out by a stock Linksys WRT54G which in turn is 
fed from my cable modem.

Static IP for the ethernet in the laptop is working fine - I just don't 
want to have to wire it the whole time.

Advice/assistance appreciated on these two annoyances. This is the first 
laptop I've maintained and had running for a long time: I know that 
audio and wireless worked fairly well on an Etch upgraded to Lenny so I 
know the basic hardware is OK. [This latest install was the 
occasion to wipe out completely the Windows which has been sat there for 
years, the last straw being when the supplied Windows XP didn't have 
enough room for the minimal Microsoft updates needed for XP SP2 :) ]

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Re: problems with gnu screen within console

[Arvind Marathe]

On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 5:31 PM, Tony R Quilkey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Arvind Marathe wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 4:34 PM, Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Arvind Marathe wrote:

 The user (i.e. myself) launching 'startx' has no problems with screen
 within xterm in icewm. But if i 'su' to root or any other user within
 xterm, and try to launch screen, all the errors appear.
>>>
>>>   The PATH for the other user(s) and console is not being set.
>>
>> Where or how do i set it? And since i could do all these operations
>> till about a month back, what could have unset these paths?
>>
>> Arvind
>>
>>
>
> I believe your $PATH variable is set within /etc/profile and can be further
> customised within ~/.bashrc

At console, echo $PATH gives

/opt/intel/cc/10.1.008/bin:/opt/intel/fc/10.1.008/bin:/usr/soft/crystallographic-packages/coot-0.27/bin:/usr/soft/crystallographic-packages/CNS/cns_solve_1.1//intel-i686-linux_g77/bin:/usr/soft/crystallographic-packages/CNS/cns_solve_1.1//intel-i686-linux_g77/utils:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/games:/usr/soft/crystallographic-packages/ccp4-5.99.1/etc:/usr/soft/crystallographic-packages/ccp4-5.99.1/bin:/usr/soft/crystallographic-packages/ccp4-5.99.1/ccp4i/bin:/usr/soft/inhouse_programs/nuparm:/usr/soft/inhouse_programs/nucgen:/usr/soft/inhouse_programs/nucrad:/usr/soft/inhouse_programs/curvefit:/usr/soft/inhouse_programs/helanal:/usr/soft/inhouse_programs/lsfit:/usr/soft/AMBER/amber9//exe:/home/arvind/bin


Most of them are what i have set, but
/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/games
are exported from /etc/profile. Only when i launch screen, they are
not being exported. So why are they getting unset on launching screen
within console? And how do i reset them?

And as i mentioned, this is a recent phenomenon. I don't think i have
upgraded any package related to console or screen. Today i upgraded
screen using apt-get to see if the behaviour changes, but it didn't.

Arvind


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RAID Question

[Jeff Grossman]

I am running a software RAID on my Debian Lenny system.  I have two hard 
drives using RAID 1.  It is the first Sunday of the month so the RAID 
was rebuilt this morning.  I noticed this in my log:


Jun  1 02:27:46 apple mdadm: RebuildFinished event detected on md device 
/dev/md0, component device  mismatches found: 128


It is the first time I have ever seen "mismatches found".  Is that bad?

Thanks,
Jeff


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Re: Re-configure x

[Nigel Henry]

On Sunday 01 June 2008 15:59, Walt L. Williams wrote:
> Greeting All
>
> I have recently upgraded my computer hardware. When
> doing the re-install of Etch. (I re-installed so I could take full
> advantage of the 64 bit processor I bought, so I reloaded it
> with the AMD64 variation of Debian; otherwise I would have
> just used the existing 32 bit install, which I am sure would
> have worked fine. Linux does a better job of this than the
> OS produced in Redmond Wa.) The install doesn't prompt
> for approval for the X driver it thinks it should install, it just
> does it, even in expert mode. This actually doesn't bother
> me, but I didn't get the resolution I had hoped for so I used
> the last command I knew of to re-configure X:
>
> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86
This is now:
dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg

I know I've often had resolution problems with new installs on my Debian os's, 
and have had to add HorizSync, and VertRefresh lines along with their 
frequency ranges in the "Monitor" section of /etc/X11/xorg.conf. Be carefull 
with this though, and verify the limitations of your monitor, by booting for 
instance with a Knoppix live cd, which gives a lot of info when booting, 
about your hardware. 

>
> My system is a 2.2ghz dual core AMD Opteron
> with an onboard ATI Rage XL video. The monitor
> is a Hann-G HG216D.  The best resolution that
> I can get currently is 1280 X 960 out of a monitor
> and graphics combo that is capable of closer to
> 1680 X 1050. My screen is currently kind of grainy
> and the whole setup is slow.  So I don't think the
> system is using the right driver.
>
> Any useful comments will be appreciated.
>
> --
> Best Regards
> Walt L. Williams
> http://www.intergate.com/~waltwilliams/
>
> .
All the best.

Nigel.


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Re: strange gs problem: unicode encoding problem with pdf (?)

[Rainer Dorsch]

Am Sonntag, 1. Juni 2008 schrieb Florian Kulzer:
> On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 16:31:26 +0200, Rainer Dorsch wrote:
> > > On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 22:41:26 +0200, Rainer Dorsch wrote:
> > > > Am Montag, 19. Mai 2008 schrieb Florian Kulzer:
> > > > > > > On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 23:47:06 +0200, Rainer Dorsch wrote:
> > > > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I have a pdf file here which
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > - Displays perfectly with kpdf
> > > > > > > > - Does not print from kpdf. This is because gs fails with
> > > > > > > > this file:
>
> [...]
>
> > > > > You can try to run
> > > > >
> > > > > foomatic-rip -v --ppd /etc/cups/ppd/$PRINTER.ppd KKA-DKB.pdf >
> > > > > test.printer
> > > > >
> > > > > and hope for helpful error messages.
> > > > >
> > > > > (Replace $PRINTER so that you get the correct name of the ppd file
> > > > > for your printer. This ppd file should be in /etc/cups/ppd/ and
> > > > > have the same name as the printer in CUPS.)
>
> [...]
>
> > There are two ghostscript commands:
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/tmp.nobackup$ grep gs foomatic-rip.err
> > renderer command:
> > gs -q -dBATCH -dPARANOIDSAFER -dQUIET -dNOPAUSE -sDEVICE=ijs
> > -sIjsServer=hpijs -sDeviceManufacturer="HEWLETT-PACKARD"
> > -sDeviceModel="HP LaserJet" -dDEVICEWIDTHPOINTS=595
> > -dDEVICEHEIGHTPOINTS=842 -dDuplex=false -r300
> > -sIjsParams=Quality:Quality=0,Quality:ColorMode=0,Quality:MediaType=0,Qua
> >lity:PenSet=0,PS:MediaPosition=7 -dIjsUseOutputFD -sOutputFile=- -
> > foomatic-gswrapper:
> > gs '-sstdout=%stderr' '-dBATCH' '-dPARANOIDSAFER' '-dQUIET' '-dNOPAUSE'
> > '-sDEVICE=ijs' '-sIjsServer=hpijs' '-sDeviceManufacturer=HEWLETT-PACKARD'
> > '-sDeviceModel=HP LaserJet' '-dDEVICEWIDTHPOINTS=595'
> > '-dDEVICEHEIGHTPOINTS=842' '-dDuplex=false' '-r300'
> > '-sIjsParams=Quality:Quality=0,Quality:ColorMode=0,Quality:MediaType=0,Qu
> >ality:PenSet=0,PS:MediaPosition=7' '-dIjsUseOutputFD'
> > '-sOutputFile=%stdout' '-_' [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/tmp.nobackup$
> >
> > I put the complete output file (STDERR) to
> >
> > http://www.alzental-castle.de/~rd/foomatic-rip.err
> >
> > BTW, gs displays the pdf file as well as acroread or kpdf. Is it possible
> > that the problem has something todo with the hplip/hpijs backend?
>
> The error messages in one of your earlier mails show that you are using
> the Lenny/Sid version of ghostscript (8.62), but your PPD file seems to
> be outdated (it is from HPLIP 2.7.10; the current version of hpijs-ppds
> is 2.8.4 in Lenny and 2.8.5 in Sid). Maybe upgrading and/or updating to
> the newest PPD in the CUPS setup will fix the problem. (Sometimes it can
> necessary to remove the printer and add it again with the newest
> driver.)

Thanks for spotting this. This improved the situation but did not fix it yet.

A cupsys upgrade apparently does not replace the ppds for installed printers. 
I "changed" the printer using the localhost:631 web interface and tried two 
options (I also added a new test printer, but same result):

*NickName: "HP LaserJet 6P Foomatic/hpijs, hpijs 2.8.4.2 - HPLIP 2.8.4"
*NickName: "HP LaserJet 6P/6MP - PostScript Postscript (recommended)"


And this brought a nice improvement:

foomatic-rip -v --ppd /etc/cups/ppd/hplj6p.ppd ~/tmp.nobackup/KKA-DKB.pdf >log 
2>err

generates now a ps or pcl file (depending on the selected driver) in the "log" 
file.

But still it does not print and there are a lot of indications to these 106 
pages!

The pcl version goes into error the ps version prints the ps source code.

Inspecting the err file, I still see the 106 pages and enscript as file 
converter:

file converter command: enscript -G -M A4 -b "Page $%|
[EMAIL PROTECTED]" --margins=36:36:36:36 --mark-wrapped-lines=arrow --word-wrap 
-p-
--> This document is DSC-conforming!

And for the postscript version this is in agreement with the "log" file

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ tail log
(32934) s
5 94 M
(%%EOF) s
_R
S
%%Trailer
%%Pages: 106
%%DocumentNeededResources: font Times-Roman Courier-Bold Courier
%%+ font Times-Bold
%%EOF

The complete outputs (STDERR) of foomatic-rip are here

http://alzental-castle.de/~rd/err.pclbackend

and

http://alzental-castle.de/~rd/err.psbackend


> [...]
>
> > The file is not secret and I would be ok with sharing it to individual
> > developers (without any formal agreement), but I would not want to post
> > it unprotected on an web page. If you are interested I would send it to
> > you in a private mail or send you an URL.
>
> I would rather not receive any sensitive information. Can you generate a
> new file from the same form with bogus data filled in?
>

My bank is generating these PDFs for me. I cannot generate them with bogus 
data. Not sure if there would be a save way to edit a pdf file to remove my 
credit card data.

BUT, the data are not very sensitive. All web-shops I pay with the card have 
the data. I just do not want to publish it on the web...

Thanks,
Rainer
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Re: Re-configure x

[Damon L. Chesser]

On Sun, 2008-06-01 at 13:59 +, Walt L. Williams wrote:
> Greeting All
> 
> I have recently upgraded my computer hardware. When 
> doing the re-install of Etch. (I re-installed so I could take full
> advantage of the 64 bit processor I bought, so I reloaded it 
> with the AMD64 variation of Debian; otherwise I would have 
> just used the existing 32 bit install, which I am sure would 
> have worked fine. Linux does a better job of this than the 
> OS produced in Redmond Wa.) The install doesn't prompt 
> for approval for the X driver it thinks it should install, it just 
> does it, even in expert mode. This actually doesn't bother 
> me, but I didn't get the resolution I had hoped for so I used 
> the last command I knew of to re-configure X: 
> 
> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 
> 
> It came back saying that " 'xserver-xfree86' is not installed 
> and no info is available." Well, apparently there has been a 
> change since the last time I used this command. I tried 
> scanning through Debian's online documentation but 
> had no luck in finding anything usefull. 
> 
>  ** Does anyone know what command to use?  **
> 
> My system is a 2.2ghz dual core AMD Opteron
> with an onboard ATI Rage XL video. The monitor 
> is a Hann-G HG216D.  The best resolution that 
> I can get currently is 1280 X 960 out of a monitor 
> and graphics combo that is capable of closer to 
> 1680 X 1050. My screen is currently kind of grainy 
> and the whole setup is slow.  So I don't think the 
> system is using the right driver.
> 
> Any useful comments will be appreciated. 
> 
> -- 
> Best Regards
> Walt L. Williams
> http://www.intergate.com/~waltwilliams/

dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg

Note, it might still not ask you what resolutions to run at.  X has
gotten pretty smart and "assumes" many of the formerly asked questions
and mostly gets it right.
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Re: text file from Linux to windows.

[Walt L. Williams]

There are more intelligent text editors for Window$ than notepad.
Try using one called Textpad. http://www.textpad.com . It intelligently
detects if the file was saved on a Unix, windows, or Mac system and
correctly displays the contents. I am registered user of Textpad from 
days when I used to do Circuit Board design, back when I could still 
get a position doing that. I needed a text editor that could read in 
files  from, and save back out to, the Sun Sparc stations the company 
I worked for had, plus it needed to have a decent search mode. 
Google for what might be best suited for what you want to use it for.

Well there you are. Hope this helps.


On Friday, 30 May 2008 12:26 am, L.V.Gandhi wrote:
> I have made a text file in Linux using echo and cat commands. When I
> open the file in note pad, I find files are not having line break, but
> having a character in place of line break. Is there any way in echo
> and cat commands usage to put windows line break?
>
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Re-configure x

[Walt L. Williams]

Greeting All

I have recently upgraded my computer hardware. When 
doing the re-install of Etch. (I re-installed so I could take full
advantage of the 64 bit processor I bought, so I reloaded it 
with the AMD64 variation of Debian; otherwise I would have 
just used the existing 32 bit install, which I am sure would 
have worked fine. Linux does a better job of this than the 
OS produced in Redmond Wa.) The install doesn't prompt 
for approval for the X driver it thinks it should install, it just 
does it, even in expert mode. This actually doesn't bother 
me, but I didn't get the resolution I had hoped for so I used 
the last command I knew of to re-configure X: 

dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 

It came back saying that " 'xserver-xfree86' is not installed 
and no info is available." Well, apparently there has been a 
change since the last time I used this command. I tried 
scanning through Debian's online documentation but 
had no luck in finding anything usefull. 

 ** Does anyone know what command to use?  **

My system is a 2.2ghz dual core AMD Opteron
with an onboard ATI Rage XL video. The monitor 
is a Hann-G HG216D.  The best resolution that 
I can get currently is 1280 X 960 out of a monitor 
and graphics combo that is capable of closer to 
1680 X 1050. My screen is currently kind of grainy 
and the whole setup is slow.  So I don't think the 
system is using the right driver.

Any useful comments will be appreciated. 

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Re: text file from Linux to windows.

[Chris Bannister]

On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 08:57:42AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Doug writes:
> >> IIRC, each card had a sequence number.  I don't know if they had
> >> card-sorter machines.
> >
> > Yes, of course we had sorters.  Card sorting machines are much older than
> > computers: it's what punch cards were invented for.  Ask Wikipedia to tell
> > you about Herman Hollerith.  Don't you kids study history?
> > --
> > John Hasler
> >
> As I recall Hollerith developed the card "reader" which also sorted cards
> and his special punched card format for the census bureau in the US.  The
> bureau is required by law to take a census every 4(I think) years.  The
> data had become so voluminous that they were unable to tabulate the data
> from the last survey before it was time for the next survey.  Hollerith
> used his invention to start a company which became IBM
> Larry

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacquard_loom
The Jacquard Loom is a mechanical loom, invented by Joseph Marie
Jacquard in 1801

http://www.eingang.org/Lecture/index.html
punched cards in connection with computing in 1890 by Herman Hollerith

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Re: KDE 4.1 beta 1

[Chris Bannister]

On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 10:40:28AM -0700, Kelly Clowers wrote:
> On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 12:00 PM, Paul Cartwright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > I just wasn't sure if I could compile it, without too many unstable
> > requirements...
> > I'm really waiting for either Kontact for KDE4 or this new replacement,
> > Akonadi, whatever IT is..
> 
> Akonadi does not replace Kontact, it is systemwide backend for
> all PIM-related data. Messages, address books, calendar data, etc.
> are all stored and indexed by Akonadi. It can pull data from multiple
> sources (IMAP, POP, remote ICS files, etc.) and aggregate them
> behind a common interface, so Kmail, Mailody, kAddress book, etc.
> only have to know how to talk to Akonadi.
> 
> The Akonadi page isn't the greatest, and is out of date, but the
> diagram at least shows the idea.
> http://pim.kde.org/akonadi/

http://ekaia.org/blog/2008/05/29/how-to-install-kde-4-beta1-from-experimental/
http://ftbfs.wordpress.com/2008/05/31/kde-41-beta-migration/
http://petereisentraut.blogspot.com/2008/05/kde-41-experience.html
http://fboudra.free.fr/wordpress/?p=19
http://pusling.com/blog/?p=72

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Re: strange gs problem: unicode encoding problem with pdf (?)

[Florian Kulzer]

On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 16:31:26 +0200, Rainer Dorsch wrote:
> > On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 22:41:26 +0200, Rainer Dorsch wrote:
> > > Am Montag, 19. Mai 2008 schrieb Florian Kulzer:
> > > > > > On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 23:47:06 +0200, Rainer Dorsch wrote:
> > > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I have a pdf file here which
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > - Displays perfectly with kpdf
> > > > > > > - Does not print from kpdf. This is because gs fails with this
> > > > > > > file:

[...]

> > > > You can try to run
> > > >
> > > > foomatic-rip -v --ppd /etc/cups/ppd/$PRINTER.ppd KKA-DKB.pdf >
> > > > test.printer
> > > >
> > > > and hope for helpful error messages.
> > > >
> > > > (Replace $PRINTER so that you get the correct name of the ppd file for
> > > >  your printer. This ppd file should be in /etc/cups/ppd/ and have the
> > > >  same name as the printer in CUPS.)

[...]

> There are two ghostscript commands:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/tmp.nobackup$ grep gs foomatic-rip.err
> renderer command: 
> gs -q -dBATCH -dPARANOIDSAFER -dQUIET -dNOPAUSE -sDEVICE=ijs 
> -sIjsServer=hpijs -sDeviceManufacturer="HEWLETT-PACKARD" -sDeviceModel="HP 
> LaserJet" -dDEVICEWIDTHPOINTS=595 -dDEVICEHEIGHTPOINTS=842 -dDuplex=false 
> -r300 
> -sIjsParams=Quality:Quality=0,Quality:ColorMode=0,Quality:MediaType=0,Quality:PenSet=0,PS:MediaPosition=7
>  -dIjsUseOutputFD -sOutputFile=- -
> foomatic-gswrapper: 
> gs '-sstdout=%stderr' '-dBATCH' '-dPARANOIDSAFER' '-dQUIET' '-dNOPAUSE' 
> '-sDEVICE=ijs' '-sIjsServer=hpijs' '-sDeviceManufacturer=HEWLETT-PACKARD' 
> '-sDeviceModel=HP 
> LaserJet' '-dDEVICEWIDTHPOINTS=595' '-dDEVICEHEIGHTPOINTS=842' 
> '-dDuplex=false' '-r300' 
> '-sIjsParams=Quality:Quality=0,Quality:ColorMode=0,Quality:MediaType=0,Quality:PenSet=0,PS:MediaPosition=7'
>  '-dIjsUseOutputFD' '-sOutputFile=%stdout' '-_'
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/tmp.nobackup$
> 
> I put the complete output file (STDERR) to 
> 
> http://www.alzental-castle.de/~rd/foomatic-rip.err
> 
> BTW, gs displays the pdf file as well as acroread or kpdf. Is it possible 
> that 
> the problem has something todo with the hplip/hpijs backend?

The error messages in one of your earlier mails show that you are using
the Lenny/Sid version of ghostscript (8.62), but your PPD file seems to
be outdated (it is from HPLIP 2.7.10; the current version of hpijs-ppds
is 2.8.4 in Lenny and 2.8.5 in Sid). Maybe upgrading and/or updating to
the newest PPD in the CUPS setup will fix the problem. (Sometimes it can
necessary to remove the printer and add it again with the newest
driver.)

[...]

> The file is not secret and I would be ok with sharing it to individual 
> developers (without any formal agreement), but I would not want to post it 
> unprotected on an web page. If you are interested I would send it to you in a 
> private mail or send you an URL.

I would rather not receive any sensitive information. Can you generate a
new file from the same form with bogus data filled in? 

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Re: Left speaker gets no sound but both earphones do

[Osamu Aoki]

On Sun, Jun 01, 2008 at 08:12:00AM +0100, Brad Rogers wrote:
> On Sat, 31 May 2008 20:03:22 -0500
> "Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Hello Jordi,
> 
> > This time, though, I looked around in alsamixer, and it doesn't look
> > like the left channel is muted. Furthermore, if I plug in the
> > headphones, I do get sound in both channels.
> 
> I was going to suggest you check the balance, but if the headphones are
> okay that seems to preclude a problem on the mobo.  If the 'phones plug
> into the back of the speakers, then it would appear to be a fault in
> the speaker system itself.

Check wiring.  With shock, it may got loose.


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Re: X affecting console text color??

[Sjoerd Hiemstra]

Op Sat, May 31, 2008 at 16:39:03 +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote:
> On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 14:10:47 +0200, Sjoerd Hiemstra wrote:
> > My console text has the default light gray color - until X is
> > started.
> > 
> > When going from X to the console with Ctrl-Alt-F2, the console
> > foreground color has turned to dark gray, hardly readable on the
> > black background.
> > Even after logging out of X, back into the console, the console text
> > remains dark gray.
> > Only after restarting the computer, the default light gray text
> > color has returned.
> > 
> > This phenomenon started 1 or 2 weeks ago, during a lenny upgrade
> > involving a large number of files that had 'xorg' in their names.
> > 
> > Anyone else having this?
> > How could X affect the default console text color?
> 
> Maybe a bug in the video driver screws up the video mode switching.
> Which xorg video driver are you using?

The R300 driver, videocard is ATI Radeon 9500.
But now we're moving towards the limits of my knowledge. How do I find
out if this driver is still used, after the xorg upgrade 2 weeks ago?

> You could try to downgrade to the previous version or test if the
> vesa driver leads to the same problem.

Among many others, these drivers are installed:

xserver-xorg-video-ati
xserver-xorg-video-vesa

How to switch to the vesa driver?
Anyway, judging from Kelly Clowers' reply, I might wait a few months and
revert to this if this phenomenon has not ceased to exist by then.

Yet, it's interesting to see that in the new /etc/X11/xorg.conf most
hardware information has gone; everything is 'generic', 'default' or
'configured'.
If it's of any interest, here it is:
http://home.kpnplanet.nl/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/xorg.conf.txt

And this is the previous one, having more hardware specifications:
http://home.kpnplanet.nl/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/xorg.conf.20080517230418.txt

Replacing the new xorg.conf with the previous one does not make any
difference though.

> > Where is the default console foreground color determined anyway, and
> > could I at least correct it manually?
> 
> setterm -foreground black|blue|green|cyan|red|magenta|yellow|white|
> default
> 
> You can also try the -default, -reset and -initialize options.

E.g. 'setterm -foreground green' gives a very faint green text color,
hardly readable, and only from a certain viewing angle on the tft
screen.  Same with the other colors.
Commands like 'setterm -default' or 'setterm -reset' do not make any
difference.
Apparently, these settings have nothing to do with it.


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Re: problems with gnu screen within console

[Tzafrir Cohen]

On Sun, Jun 01, 2008 at 04:04:08AM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote:
> Arvind Marathe wrote:
> > The user (i.e. myself) launching 'startx' has no problems with screen
> > within xterm in icewm. But if i 'su' to root or any other user within
> > xterm, and try to launch screen, all the errors appear.
> 
> The PATH for the other user(s) and console is not being set.

Or rather, gets explicitly overriden. PATH has a sane default of
/bin:/usr/bin at init.

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Re: problems with gnu screen within console

[Tony R Quilkey]

Arvind Marathe wrote:

On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 4:34 PM, Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Arvind Marathe wrote:

The user (i.e. myself) launching 'startx' has no problems with screen
within xterm in icewm. But if i 'su' to root or any other user within
xterm, and try to launch screen, all the errors appear.

   The PATH for the other user(s) and console is not being set.


Where or how do i set it? And since i could do all these operations
till about a month back, what could have unset these paths?

Arvind




I believe your $PATH variable is set within /etc/profile and can be 
further customised within ~/.bashrc



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Re: problems with gnu screen within console

[Arvind Marathe]

On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 4:34 PM, Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Arvind Marathe wrote:
>> The user (i.e. myself) launching 'startx' has no problems with screen
>> within xterm in icewm. But if i 'su' to root or any other user within
>> xterm, and try to launch screen, all the errors appear.
>
>The PATH for the other user(s) and console is not being set.

Where or how do i set it? And since i could do all these operations
till about a month back, what could have unset these paths?

Arvind


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Re: problems with gnu screen within console

[Steve Lamb]

Arvind Marathe wrote:
> The user (i.e. myself) launching 'startx' has no problems with screen
> within xterm in icewm. But if i 'su' to root or any other user within
> xterm, and try to launch screen, all the errors appear.

The PATH for the other user(s) and console is not being set.

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problems with gnu screen within console

[Arvind Marathe]

Hi list!
I am using debian lenny and icewm as my window manager on X.
I use gnu screen within my xterm and sometimes within my console. I am
having a strange problem with gnu screen for the past few days. Within
xterm, gnu screen opens just fine. But if i open screen within
console, i get a huge list of messages such as:

---
bash: sed: command not found
bash: awk: command not found
bash: uname: command not found
bash: [: =: unary operator expected
   .
   .
   .
---

screen launches after this, but if i use any command, say 'ls', 'vi',
etc, i get the same error.
bash: ls: command not found

The user (i.e. myself) launching 'startx' has no problems with screen
within xterm in icewm. But if i 'su' to root or any other user within
xterm, and try to launch screen, all the errors appear.

The errors are independent of the $HOME/.screenrc file, they appear
even if i remove that file. The /etc/screenrc file is the default one.

I am not sure when these errors started, but they have appeared only
within the past month or so.

TIA for any help.

Arvind


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Re: Uninstall programs installed in wine.

[Nyizsnyik Ferenc]

On Sun, 1 Jun 2008 05:55:56 +0530
"L.V.Gandhi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> How to uninstall programs installed in wine?
> 

wine uninstaller

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Re: Left speaker gets no sound but both earphones do

[Brad Rogers]

On Sat, 31 May 2008 20:03:22 -0500
"Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hello Jordi,

> This time, though, I looked around in alsamixer, and it doesn't look
> like the left channel is muted. Furthermore, if I plug in the
> headphones, I do get sound in both channels.

I was going to suggest you check the balance, but if the headphones are
okay that seems to preclude a problem on the mobo.  If the 'phones plug
into the back of the speakers, then it would appear to be a fault in
the speaker system itself.

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Re: Uninstall programs installed in wine.

[Marc Shapiro]

Douglas A. Tutty wrote:

On Sun, Jun 01, 2008 at 05:55:56AM +0530, L.V.Gandhi wrote:
  

How to uninstall programs installed in wine?




distill it to a port?
  

Bad Toad!  Hit yourself over the head with a fly-swatter.

Besides, port is not distilled.  It is fortified (with brandy, I 
believe) but is not, itself, distilled.


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