Re: Aptitude oddity
On Sat, Aug 09, 2008 at 16:41:40 -0700, Daniel Burrows ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Sat, Aug 09, 2008 at 10:56:22AM -0700, Daniel Burrows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > was heard to say: > > No, it'll spew large amounts of debugging information to your > > terminal which you can then paste into a mail to me. :-) > > Aha. The aptitude resolver isn't touching those packages at all, but > think maybe I see what *is* happening. The code that I wrote to use the > apt resolver as a fallback option is accidentally resetting every hold > state in the database. Does this patch help? [snip patch] Sorry Daniel, but this is way out of my depth. I'm happy to learn, but I really do not know what to do with your patch file. So long as I am careful when I (rarely) attempt to upgrade more than once every few days then it should not be a problem. Bob -- Bob Cox. Stoke Gifford, near Bristol, UK. Registered user #445000 with the Linux Counter - http://counter.li.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
rsync backup to ext3-formatted usb flash drive?
Hi. I'm using svn-fast-backup (in the subversion-tools package) to make rsync backups of my subversion repository. The place I'm backing up to is on an ext3-formatted usb flash drive, and I'm wondering if this is a wise thing to do. I know that flash drive blocks wear out after a certain number of writes, and rsync uses hard links to avoid duplicate backup files. My question is, does this mean that the inodes' reference counts will be changed frequently enough that it might wear out that block of the flash drive any time soon? (I currently backup about 900 files one or two times a day.) If so, is ext3 capable of using another block for the inode, or will I lose the ability to read/write some files completely? Thanks, Brian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
DebConf8 video streams
Hi, in seven hours DebConf8 will officially begin, you can participate by watching the live video streams as described on http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf8/Streams - have fun! The schedule for tomorrow/today is available at https://penta.debconf.org/dc8_schedule/day_2008-08-10.en.html - follow the links for the schedule for the other days. The times are localtime which is ART and equals to UTC-3. Apologies for the short notice. But it should not come totally surprising for most of you! ;-) regards, Holger pgpfseer618dS.pgp Description: PGP signature
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Re: don't really need cpp-3.4, do I?
David Witbrodt wrote: However, I would like to keep this version of gcc. cpp-3.4 appears to be just the pre-processor. I supposed I can remove this and still be able to use the 3.4 gcc compiler (I want to retain libg2c0 as well). Do I understand this right? Sure, if you want to program in C without ever using any header files with #include. [No programs with printf(), scanf(), or any other useful library functions that you are probably taking for granted.] In short, you do NOT understand that right. Yeah, I read more about these packages and that cleared that up. Thanks for the info through. Looking here, http://packages.debian.org/lenny/cpp-3.4 it would seem that you should be having 3.4.6-8 show up in your package manager. If not, consider switching to a different mirror in /etc/apt/sources.list. I am not sure yet, I use some FORTRAN libraries for which I need the libg2c0 package. That package appears to be marked for removal with the new gcc version. But I see your point, I will have to look at all the factors before letting the older gcc packages to be upgraded. ->HS HTH, Dave W. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Router IPv6
On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 8:07 PM, Alex Samad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > have a look at ip6tables and ip especially ip -6 a and ip -6 r, packages to > look at > radvd. Also sysctl -a | grep ipv6 Dear Alex and Andrew, thank you for your hints. Here's the result of sysctl -a | grep ipv6 command[1]. I'll do the "research" more deeply later. -- Zaki Akhmad [1] # sysctl -a | grep ipv6 error: "Invalid argument" reading key "fs.binfmt_misc.register" error: "Invalid argument" reading key "dev.parport.parport0.autoprobe" error: "Invalid argument" reading key "dev.parport.parport0.autoprobe0" error: "Invalid argument" reading key "dev.parport.parport0.autoprobe1" error: "Invalid argument" reading key "dev.parport.parport0.autoprobe2" error: "Invalid argument" reading key "dev.parport.parport0.autoprobe3" error: permission denied on key 'net.ipv4.route.flush' net.ipv6.neigh.default.mcast_solicit = 3 net.ipv6.neigh.default.ucast_solicit = 3 net.ipv6.neigh.default.app_solicit = 0 net.ipv6.neigh.default.retrans_time = 250 net.ipv6.neigh.default.base_reachable_time = 30 net.ipv6.neigh.default.delay_first_probe_time = 5 net.ipv6.neigh.default.gc_stale_time = 60 net.ipv6.neigh.default.unres_qlen = 3 net.ipv6.neigh.default.proxy_qlen = 64 net.ipv6.neigh.default.anycast_delay = 100 net.ipv6.neigh.default.proxy_delay = 80 net.ipv6.neigh.default.locktime = 0 net.ipv6.neigh.default.retrans_time_ms = 1000 net.ipv6.neigh.default.base_reachable_time_ms = 3 net.ipv6.neigh.default.gc_interval = 30 net.ipv6.neigh.default.gc_thresh1 = 128 net.ipv6.neigh.default.gc_thresh2 = 512 net.ipv6.neigh.default.gc_thresh3 = 1024 net.ipv6.neigh.lo.mcast_solicit = 3 net.ipv6.neigh.lo.ucast_solicit = 3 net.ipv6.neigh.lo.app_solicit = 0 net.ipv6.neigh.lo.retrans_time = 250 net.ipv6.neigh.lo.base_reachable_time = 30 net.ipv6.neigh.lo.delay_first_probe_time = 5 net.ipv6.neigh.lo.gc_stale_time = 60 net.ipv6.neigh.lo.unres_qlen = 3 net.ipv6.neigh.lo.proxy_qlen = 64 net.ipv6.neigh.lo.anycast_delay = 100 net.ipv6.neigh.lo.proxy_delay = 80 net.ipv6.neigh.lo.locktime = 0 net.ipv6.neigh.lo.retrans_time_ms = 1000 net.ipv6.neigh.lo.base_reachable_time_ms = 3 net.ipv6.neigh.eth0.mcast_solicit = 3 net.ipv6.neigh.eth0.ucast_solicit = 3 net.ipv6.neigh.eth0.app_solicit = 0 net.ipv6.neigh.eth0.retrans_time = 250 net.ipv6.neigh.eth0.base_reachable_time = 30 net.ipv6.neigh.eth0.delay_first_probe_time = 5 net.ipv6.neigh.eth0.gc_stale_time = 60 net.ipv6.neigh.eth0.unres_qlen = 3 net.ipv6.neigh.eth0.proxy_qlen = 64 net.ipv6.neigh.eth0.anycast_delay = 100 net.ipv6.neigh.eth0.proxy_delay = 80 net.ipv6.neigh.eth0.locktime = 0 net.ipv6.neigh.eth0.retrans_time_ms = 1000 net.ipv6.neigh.eth0.base_reachable_time_ms = 3 net.ipv6.neigh.wmaster0.mcast_solicit = 3 net.ipv6.neigh.wmaster0.ucast_solicit = 3 net.ipv6.neigh.wmaster0.app_solicit = 0 net.ipv6.neigh.wmaster0.retrans_time = 250 net.ipv6.neigh.wmaster0.base_reachable_time = 30 net.ipv6.neigh.wmaster0.delay_first_probe_time = 5 net.ipv6.neigh.wmaster0.gc_stale_time = 60 net.ipv6.neigh.wmaster0.unres_qlen = 3 net.ipv6.neigh.wmaster0.proxy_qlen = 64 net.ipv6.neigh.wmaster0.anycast_delay = 100 net.ipv6.neigh.wmaster0.proxy_delay = 80 net.ipv6.neigh.wmaster0.locktime = 0 net.ipv6.neigh.wmaster0.retrans_time_ms = 1000 net.ipv6.neigh.wmaster0.base_reachable_time_ms = 3 net.ipv6.neigh.wlan0.mcast_solicit = 3 net.ipv6.neigh.wlan0.ucast_solicit = 3 net.ipv6.neigh.wlan0.app_solicit = 0 net.ipv6.neigh.wlan0.retrans_time = 250 net.ipv6.neigh.wlan0.base_reachable_time = 30 net.ipv6.neigh.wlan0.delay_first_probe_time = 5 net.ipv6.neigh.wlan0.gc_stale_time = 60 error: permission denied on key 'net.ipv6.route.flush' net.ipv6.neigh.wlan0.unres_qlen = 3 net.ipv6.neigh.wlan0.proxy_qlen = 64 net.ipv6.neigh.wlan0.anycast_delay = 100 net.ipv6.neigh.wlan0.proxy_delay = 80 net.ipv6.neigh.wlan0.locktime = 0 net.ipv6.neigh.wlan0.retrans_time_ms = 1000 net.ipv6.neigh.wlan0.base_reachable_time_ms = 3 net.ipv6.route.gc_thresh = 1024 net.ipv6.route.max_size = 4096 net.ipv6.route.gc_min_interval = 0 net.ipv6.route.gc_timeout = 60 net.ipv6.route.gc_interval = 30 net.ipv6.route.gc_elasticity = 0 net.ipv6.route.mtu_expires = 600 net.ipv6.route.min_adv_mss = 4 net.ipv6.route.gc_min_interval_ms = 500 net.ipv6.icmp.ratelimit = 250 net.ipv6.bindv6only = 0 net.ipv6.mld_max_msf = 64 net.ipv6.conf.all.forwarding = 0 net.ipv6.conf.all.hop_limit = 64 net.ipv6.conf.all.mtu = 1280 net.ipv6.conf.all.accept_ra = 1 net.ipv6.conf.all.accept_redirects = 1 net.ipv6.conf.all.autoconf = 1 net.ipv6.conf.all.dad_transmits = 1 net.ipv6.conf.all.router_solicitations = 3 net.ipv6.conf.all.router_solicitation_interval = 4 net.ipv6.conf.all.router_solicitation_delay = 1 net.ipv6.conf.all.force_mld_version = 0 net.ipv6.conf.all.use_tempaddr = 0 net.ipv6.conf.all.temp_valid_lft = 604800 net.ipv6.conf.all.temp_prefered_lft = 86400 net.ipv6.conf.all.regen_max_retry = 5 net.ipv6.conf.all.max_desync_factor = 600 net.ipv6.conf.all.max_addresses = 16 net.ipv6.conf.all
Re: why can't I update libg2c0 [was: Re: don't really need cpp-3.4, do I?]
David Witbrodt wrote: hmm ... just took another look at the package descriptions. It seems that the problem is libg2c0. How come this still depends on an older version of gcc-3.4.6? I link some of my programs with some FORTRAN libraries and need libg2c0. So for now I have been keeping gcc-3.4 at its older version during every upgrade. So, what's the deal with libg2c0? Looks like support for the old legacy compilers is reaching its end of life: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=473647 You might consider transitioning to something newer, if possible. Ah, right. I went over the bug report and I must say the original submitter has a valid point. I am currently using this compiler to interface my C++ code with some FORTRAN libraries which I compile only occasionally. Looks like using gfortran for that might possible give problems or be noisy. So, based no this, I am going to hold gcc-3.4.6 for now. Thanks for the pointer, it cleared up my aptitude doubts perfectly. ->HS -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problems with an "old" nvidia 6100 GO
Le Sat, 9 Aug 2008 07:57:48 -0400 Paul Cartwright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit : > On Sat August 9 2008, Nicolas FRANCOIS wrote: > > 2) if I use the free driver (the "nv" one), everything is fine... except > > I don't have ANY access to OpenGL ! All applications requiring OpenGL > > fail : games, blender... Kpovmodeler starts, but the graphic widgets show > > an error message. > > > > Can you help me on one of those two problems at least ? > > > > Thanks. > > I used this script, it makes it very easy.. > just run ( from a alt-F1 terminal session) > #sgfxi -c > > once you have the right apps installed. > > http://blog.creonfx.com/linux/how-to-install-nvidia-driver-on-2625-2-debian-kernel-with-xen That did the trick ! Thanks :-) The script seems to add a few option (besides installing the driver) to the xorg.conf file, in the driver section. I don't remember those options, because I'm not on my laptop now. But thank you again, I'm going on vacation with a light heart (don't know if you can say that in english ?!?) \bye PS1 : one question remains : is this 100% Debian-proof, and what has to be done if a new kernel arises in the updates ? PS2 : and BTW, that's two questions ! -- Nicolas FRANCOIS | /\ http://nicolas.francois.free.fr | |__| X--/\\ We are the Micro$oft. _\_V Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated. darthvader penguin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Debian-User] Debian + non ose virtualBox
Hi all, I installed the non ose virtualBox, and I got a XP image running under it with bridged ethernet. However I haven't been able to get USB working on the guest, neither shared folders... I've searched with google, and found several suggestions (often about the permissions of the usbfs devices), and I tried almost everything unsuccessfully (most suggestions for ubuntu btw), + I also read the user Manual. Is there a debian guide to get USB and share directory working... Thanks, -- Javier -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: APT recommendations/suggestions not obvious
On 08/09/08 20:19, Shachar Or wrote: On Sunday 10 August 2008 03:35, Ron Johnson wrote: TTBOMK, neither apt/aptitude/synaptics stores explicit "this is why package A is recommended" data. If it did, I'd immediately convert to that app. It would be great to have this as part of packaging policy and the packaging tools to be able to fetch this information. Where does this feature request belong? debian-devel list? That's where I'd first broach the idea. -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Scientists are people, too. IOW, they also "crave power, money, respect, and influence, and they also fear for their jobs. Each can be a healthy motivator, but each has the ability to turn a good scientist into a bad one; and in some cases, they can turn a good scientist into a charlatan." http://thefutureofthings.com/book/3/the-bomb-that-never-was.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: APT recommendations/suggestions not obvious
On Sunday 10 August 2008 03:35, Ron Johnson wrote: > TTBOMK, neither apt/aptitude/synaptics stores explicit "this is why > package A is recommended" data. If it did, I'd immediately convert > to that app. It would be great to have this as part of packaging policy and the packaging tools to be able to fetch this information. Where does this feature request belong? debian-devel list? > > -- > Ron Johnson, Jr. > Jefferson LA USA > > Scientists are people, too. IOW, they also "crave power, money, > respect, and influence, and they also fear for their jobs. Each > can be a healthy motivator, but each has the ability to turn a > good scientist into a bad one; and in some cases, they can turn > a good scientist into a charlatan." > http://thefutureofthings.com/book/3/the-bomb-that-never-was.html -- Shachar Or | שחר אור http://ox.freeallweb.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: why can't I update libg2c0 [was: Re: don't really need cpp-3.4, do I?]
> hmm ... just took another look at the package descriptions. It seems > that the problem is libg2c0. How come this still depends on an older > version of gcc-3.4.6? I link some of my programs with some FORTRAN > libraries and need libg2c0. So for now I have been keeping gcc-3.4 at > its older version during every upgrade. So, what's the deal with libg2c0? Looks like support for the old legacy compilers is reaching its end of life: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=473647 You might consider transitioning to something newer, if possible. DW -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: don't really need cpp-3.4, do I?
> However, I would like to keep this version of gcc. cpp-3.4 appears to be > just the pre-processor. I supposed I can remove this and still be able > to use the 3.4 gcc compiler (I want to retain libg2c0 as well). Do I > understand this right? Sure, if you want to program in C without ever using any header files with #include. [No programs with printf(), scanf(), or any other useful library functions that you are probably taking for granted.] In short, you do NOT understand that right. Looking here, http://packages.debian.org/lenny/cpp-3.4 it would seem that you should be having 3.4.6-8 show up in your package manager. If not, consider switching to a different mirror in /etc/apt/sources.list. HTH, Dave W. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: APT recommendations/suggestions not obvious
On 08/09/08 17:05, Shachar Or wrote: On Sunday 10 August 2008 00:58, Ron Johnson wrote: On 08/09/08 15:40, Shachar Or wrote: Hi. why doesn't aptitude show me for what purpose a package reccomends or suggests another? I'd very much like that because sometimes, perhaps many times, I can't guess it and even if I can guess it, how do I know? I find that many times README.Debian doesn't mention those things. Any thoughts about this? At times like this, I just flip to another open xterm and do "apt-cache show". What information does that print that I don't already know from aptitude? I think I might have misread your post. Anyway, seeing the Recommended's full description just helps me deduce why it would be recommended. TTBOMK, neither apt/aptitude/synaptics stores explicit "this is why package A is recommended" data. If it did, I'd immediately convert to that app. -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Scientists are people, too. IOW, they also "crave power, money, respect, and influence, and they also fear for their jobs. Each can be a healthy motivator, but each has the ability to turn a good scientist into a bad one; and in some cases, they can turn a good scientist into a charlatan." http://thefutureofthings.com/book/3/the-bomb-that-never-was.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
why can't I update libg2c0 [was: Re: don't really need cpp-3.4, do I?]
H.S. wrote: For the last many weeks, when I want to upgrade my Debian Testing computer, aptitude keeps telling me that: The following packages have unmet dependencies: libg2c0-dev: Depends: gcc-3.4-base (= 3.4.6-6) but 3.4.6-8 is to be installed. libg2c0: Depends: gcc-3.4-base (= 3.4.6-6) but 3.4.6-8 is to be installed. The following actions will resolve these dependencies: Remove the following packages: cpp-3.4 hmm ... just took another look at the package descriptions. It seems that the problem is libg2c0. How come this still depends on an older version of gcc-3.4.6? I link some of my programs with some FORTRAN libraries and need libg2c0. So for now I have been keeping gcc-3.4 at its older version during every upgrade. So, what's the deal with libg2c0? thanks, ->HS -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
don't really need cpp-3.4, do I?
For the last many weeks, when I want to upgrade my Debian Testing computer, aptitude keeps telling me that: The following packages have unmet dependencies: libg2c0-dev: Depends: gcc-3.4-base (= 3.4.6-6) but 3.4.6-8 is to be installed. libg2c0: Depends: gcc-3.4-base (= 3.4.6-6) but 3.4.6-8 is to be installed. The following actions will resolve these dependencies: Remove the following packages: cpp-3.4 However, I would like to keep this version of gcc. cpp-3.4 appears to be just the pre-processor. I supposed I can remove this and still be able to use the 3.4 gcc compiler (I want to retain libg2c0 as well). Do I understand this right? thanks, ->HS -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Benefits (and risks) of using Sid
* Florian Kulzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008 Aug 09 15:49 -0500]: > Right now I use the "limit view" function with appropriate search terms to > get this kind of information; it would be nice if aptitude displayed the > archive(s) next to the version number automatically. Ahh, since I just have unstable in my sources.list, I don't see much of a need, but I see where you're coming from. I guess that whenever I've sought that kind of information I just head for the the packages page and look there. - Nate >> -- "The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears this is true." Ham radio, Linux, bikes, and more: http://n0nb.us/index.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: what's the best IDE for C programming in Debian?
On Sat, Aug 09, 2008 at 02:44:55AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > That seems redundant, since Emacs is the OS, and thus is running > soon after POST. > > Does that age me? Emacs-as-OS comments just don't have the same > impact when using a 2GB AMD 64X2 machine as they on a 8MB Sun3... Nah, I'd say Emacs-as-OS comments are still as current today as they were then. "Eight Megs And Constantly Swapping", on the other hand... -- News aggregation meets world domination. Can you see the fnews? http://seethefnews.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Aptitude oddity
On Sat, Aug 09, 2008 at 10:56:22AM -0700, Daniel Burrows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
was heard to say:
> No, it'll spew large amounts of debugging information to your
> terminal which you can then paste into a mail to me. :-)
Aha. The aptitude resolver isn't touching those packages at all, but
think maybe I see what *is* happening. The code that I wrote to use the
apt resolver as a fallback option is accidentally resetting every hold
state in the database. Does this patch help?
Daniel
diff -r aabbcab08cd3 src/cmdline/cmdline_upgrade.cc
--- a/src/cmdline/cmdline_upgrade.cc Sat Aug 09 09:58:13 2008 -0700
+++ b/src/cmdline/cmdline_upgrade.cc Sat Aug 09 16:41:07 2008 -0700
@@ -112,7 +112,10 @@
// Reset all the package states.
for(pkgCache::PkgIterator i=(*apt_cache_file)->PkgBegin();
!i.end(); ++i)
- (*apt_cache_file)->mark_keep(i, false, false, NULL);
+ {
+ bool held = (*apt_cache_file)->get_ext_state(i).selection_state == pkgCache::State::Hold;
+ (*apt_cache_file)->mark_keep(i, false, held, NULL);
+ }
}
// Use the apt 'upgrade' algorithm as a fallback against, e.g.,
Re: Nvidia GeForce FX5200 problems
On Sat, 09 Aug 2008 14:15:45 -0700 Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 2008-07-31 at 23:08 -0400, Frank McCormick wrote: > > On Thu, 31 Jul 2008 21:18:47 -0500 > > Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >> Is this: > > > >> Disable"dri" > > > >> or this: > > > >> Load "dri" > > > >> in your xorg.conf? > > > >> > > > >No. > > > > > > > >> Is this: > > > >> Option "AIGLX" "true" > > > >> in the "ServerLayout" section of your xorg.conf? > > > >> > > > > > > > >xorg.conf has Option "AIGLX" "false" in it. > > > > > > Hmmm. Very interesting. In a confusing sort of way... > > > >I have just about given up on this card. Ubuntu Gutsy for some > > reason ( different xorg I guess ) handled it with no problem. On Sid I > > can't even get X up. I'm in Sid now again using (uuugh) Intel video. > > Ubuntu uses the proprietary video drivers for that card > (nvidia-glx-legacy-96xx, iirc). See > http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers for information on how to > use this adapter with the non-free drivers. You mean to say the free Debian driver (nv) won't run this card ?? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpiOjjKFypY4.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Question on flash player
On Sun, 2008-07-27 at 10:01 -0400, Jonathan Jacobs wrote: > I still consider myself a newbe. I have looked in Synaptic package > manager and I have orange liborange0 when I do a search for flash > player. I see swf-player, but that says that is a plugin for mozilla > and I am using Epiphany as my web-browser. I have downloaded > flashplayer10_install_linux_051508.i386.rpm but how do I install > thatwhat program? Debian doesn't use RPMs. You can use alien to convert it to a deb, poorly, but that's not recommended. You want the flashplayer-nonfree package if you want the Adobe flashplayer. Mozilla and Epiphany use the same plugins. -- Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Replacing hda - Easiest Way?
So far so good. Finally got around to actually installing the new drive this morning, since the system was down anyway due to a power flicker on account of the weather. I used gparted to make 3 partitions on the new drive (which came up as /dev/sdf due to sda through sdd being used by the card reader and sde being a 9GB SCSI drive I forgot was still installed.) It was 200GB for /shared, 150GB for /home, and 150GB for /workspace. After that, I made mountpoints for them at /shared-new, /home-new, and /workspace-new then just did a straight over copy from /shared and /workspace to /shared-new and /workspace-new. Those two were remounted as /shared and /workspace and their counterparts on /hdb were remounted as /shared-old and /workspace-old, and /etc/fstab updated appropriately. For /home, I went ahead and used mondoarchive to make a set of 4 iso images on the new /workspace, then used mondorestore to restore them intact to /home-new. Apparently I made some minor error in the backup, because when I remounted /home-new as /home and unmounted the original /home, /the new /home showed as: /home |_/home Fortunately, I was able to log into a root terminal and use Midnight Commander to copy everything from the home subdirectory into the home root directory, so all is well there now. Next up will be to run mondoarchive on hda and make isos on /workspace, then restore to hdb. After that, I can swap the two drives around and make the 80GB drive (the old hda) into a nice big scratch space. But before I do all of that, I think I need to run a few more tests to make sure everything copied okay... In other words, time to fire up City of Heroes for a bit. :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Making an image of my HDD
On Thu, 2008-07-31 at 15:55 -0400, Michael S. Peek wrote:
> Hello gurus,
>
> I'm considering doing some dangerous tinkering with my laptop. I have
> regular backups of /root /boot /etc and /home, but would like to make a
> complete image of the drive as well. Ideally, what I want to do is boot
> from a cd, dd the drive to a file on my workstation via ssh in such a
> way that I can dd it back later if anything goes wrong. But before I
> risk my precious laptop on this, I wanted to double-check my dd command
> with you guys:
>
> dd if=${device} conv=sync,noerror bs=64K | ssh -l ${user} ${host} "dd
> of=file.bin bs=64K"
You might find using an external hard disk and the faubackup package as
a cron.daily task might be more advantageous. Rationale being that
bootloaders aren't terribly difficult to reinstall, the backups made by
faubackup are accessable using standard filesystem tools (cp, ls, cat,
etc), and backups are complete and incremental at the same time.
If data has not changed from the previous backup, faubackup makes a hard
link to the previous copy of the data. This makes each day's backup a
complete backup, however, the space used on the filesystem is the same
as an incremental backup. As older backups expire, when the last hard
link to a particular file's data is removed, the old data is also
removed. You're getting the compactness of an incremental backup with
the completeness of a full backup every night.
Another thing you might look at is the Hard Disk Upgrade HOWTO. This
might also give you some prospective into other options that might be of
use in this situation as well.
http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Hard-Disk-Upgrade/index.html
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Re: APT recommendations/suggestions not obvious
On Sunday 10 August 2008 00:58, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 08/09/08 15:40, Shachar Or wrote: > > Hi. > > > > why doesn't aptitude show me for what purpose a package reccomends or > > suggests another? > > > > I'd very much like that because sometimes, perhaps many times, I can't > > guess it and even if I can guess it, how do I know? > > > > I find that many times README.Debian doesn't mention those things. > > > > Any thoughts about this? > > At times like this, I just flip to another open xterm and do > "apt-cache show". What information does that print that I don't already know from aptitude? > > -- > Ron Johnson, Jr. > Jefferson LA USA > > Scientists are people, too. IOW, they also "crave power, money, > respect, and influence, and they also fear for their jobs. Each > can be a healthy motivator, but each has the ability to turn a > good scientist into a bad one; and in some cases, they can turn > a good scientist into a charlatan." > http://thefutureofthings.com/book/3/the-bomb-that-never-was.html -- Shachar Or | שחר אור http://ox.freeallweb.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Benefits (and risks) of using Sid
On 08/09/08 08:57, Damon L. Chesser wrote: On Fri, 2008-08-08 at 01:05 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: [snip] I put this at the bottom of my family members' .bashrc files. Works like a charm. if [ "$TERM" == "linux" ]; then startx exit fi -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Ron, I like that. Alleviates the need for a login manager at all and if all win users snooping around would not even know what to type at the login: prompt. But does this not kill any vt's for that user? ie, cntrl-alt-F2, login, wham, GUI and not a term. Possibly. But they never do that, so it hasn't come up yet. Neither have I found a need to, yet, for that matter. I am sitting here turning over diff. scenarios in my head, how to accomplish them using this login script. That is one of them. I need more time! I don't have enough to play with. -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Scientists are people, too. IOW, they also "crave power, money, respect, and influence, and they also fear for their jobs. Each can be a healthy motivator, but each has the ability to turn a good scientist into a bad one; and in some cases, they can turn a good scientist into a charlatan." http://thefutureofthings.com/book/3/the-bomb-that-never-was.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: APT recommendations/suggestions not obvious
On 08/09/08 15:40, Shachar Or wrote: Hi. why doesn't aptitude show me for what purpose a package reccomends or suggests another? I'd very much like that because sometimes, perhaps many times, I can't guess it and even if I can guess it, how do I know? I find that many times README.Debian doesn't mention those things. Any thoughts about this? At times like this, I just flip to another open xterm and do "apt-cache show". -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Scientists are people, too. IOW, they also "crave power, money, respect, and influence, and they also fear for their jobs. Each can be a healthy motivator, but each has the ability to turn a good scientist into a bad one; and in some cases, they can turn a good scientist into a charlatan." http://thefutureofthings.com/book/3/the-bomb-that-never-was.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
gramps fails to start on sid
I'm remoted into a sid box, from a sid box, and when I run gramps, it
pops up the following and then just hangs; I eventually have to KILL it.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ gramps
Upgrading INI file
Hspell: can't open /usr/share/hspell/hebrew.wgz.sizes.
Hspell: can't open /usr/share/hspell/hebrew.wgz.sizes.
If I run "strace gramps", I see a lot of "no such file errors", and it
seems that maybe they repeat over and over; the end of my strace, when
it finally hangs, looks like below. I can run gramps when I remote from
this box to a third box (running testing instead of sid).
munmap(0xb6935000, 4096)= 0
mmap2(NULL, 593920, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1,
0) = 0xb6433000
open("/usr/share/myspell/dicts/en_US.aff", O_RDONLY) = 22
fstat64(22, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=3045, ...}) = 0
mmap2(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1,
0) = 0xb6935000
read(22, "SET ISO8859-1\nTRY esianrtolcdugmp"..., 4096) = 3045
read(22, ""..., 4096) = 0
close(22) = 0
munmap(0xb6935000, 4096)= 0
brk(0xa0c9000) = 0xa0c9000
open("/home/westk/.config/enchant/en_US.dic", O_RDONLY|O_CREAT, 0600) = 22
close(22) = 0
stat64("/home/westk/.config/enchant/en_US.dic", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0600,
st_size=0, ...}) = 0
open("/home/westk/.config/enchant/en_US.dic", O_RDONLY) = 22
flock(22, LOCK_EX) = 0
fstat64(22, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0600, st_size=0, ...}) = 0
mmap2(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1,
0) = 0xb6935000
read(22, ""..., 4096) = 0
flock(22, LOCK_UN) = 0
close(22) = 0
munmap(0xb6935000, 4096)= 0
open("/home/westk/.config/enchant/en_US.exc", O_RDONLY|O_CREAT, 0600) = 22
close(22) = 0
stat64("/home/westk/.config/enchant/en_US.exc", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0600,
st_size=0, ...}) = 0
open("/home/westk/.config/enchant/en_US.exc", O_RDONLY) = 22
flock(22, LOCK_EX) = 0
fstat64(22, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0600, st_size=0, ...}) = 0
mmap2(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1,
0) = 0xb6935000
read(22, ""..., 4096) = 0
flock(22, LOCK_UN) = 0
close(22) = 0
munmap(0xb6935000, 4096)= 0
munmap(0xb6433000, 593920) = 0
brk(0x9fb8000) = 0x9fb8000
access("/home/westk/.config/enchant/myspell/hy.dic", F_OK) = -1 ENOENT
(No such file or directory)
access("/home/westk/.enchant/myspell/hy.dic", F_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such
file or directory)
access("/usr/share/enchant/myspell/hy.dic", F_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such
file or directory)
access("/usr/share/myspell/dicts/hy.dic", F_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such
file or directory)
open("/home/westk/.config/enchant/myspell",
O_RDONLY|O_NONBLOCK|O_LARGEFILE|O_DIRECTORY|O_CLOEXEC) = -1 ENOENT (No
such file or directory)
open("/home/westk/.enchant/myspell",
O_RDONLY|O_NONBLOCK|O_LARGEFILE|O_DIRECTORY|O_CLOEXEC) = -1 ENOENT (No
such file or directory)
open("/usr/share/enchant/myspell",
O_RDONLY|O_NONBLOCK|O_LARGEFILE|O_DIRECTORY|O_CLOEXEC) = -1 ENOENT (No
such file or directory)
open("/usr/share/myspell/dicts",
O_RDONLY|O_NONBLOCK|O_LARGEFILE|O_DIRECTORY|O_CLOEXEC) = 22
fstat64(22, {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=4096, ...}) = 0
getdents64(22, /* 9 entries */, 4096) = 288
close(22) = 0
access("/usr/share/myspell/dicts/hyph_en_US.aff", F_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No
such file or directory)
futex(0x9de64b4, FUTEX_WAIT_PRIVATE, 2, NULL
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Re: Nvidia GeForce FX5200 problems
On Thu, 2008-07-31 at 23:08 -0400, Frank McCormick wrote: > On Thu, 31 Jul 2008 21:18:47 -0500 > Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> Is this: > > >> Disable"dri" > > >> or this: > > >> Load "dri" > > >> in your xorg.conf? > > >> > > >No. > > > > > >> Is this: > > >> Option "AIGLX" "true" > > >> in the "ServerLayout" section of your xorg.conf? > > >> > > > > > >xorg.conf has Option "AIGLX" "false" in it. > > > > Hmmm. Very interesting. In a confusing sort of way... > >I have just about given up on this card. Ubuntu Gutsy for some reason > ( different xorg I guess ) handled it with no problem. On Sid I can't even > get X up. I'm in Sid now again using (uuugh) Intel video. Ubuntu uses the proprietary video drivers for that card (nvidia-glx-legacy-96xx, iirc). See http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers for information on how to use this adapter with the non-free drivers. -- Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: swappiness of 2.6 kernel
On Tue, 2008-08-05 at 08:28 +0100, thveillon.debian wrote: > On a Desktop workstation (multimedia edit, 4Gb ram, timer freq being set > @ 1000HZ) I've been using 20 for a long time, no problem whatsoever and > no swapping at all. How sure are you on that? I've 2GB of RAM¹ and eventually something sitting in memory that hasn't done anything in a long time will get swapped out as a pre-emptive measure to keep more RAM available for disk cache and other programs. ¹ I'm kind of curious where Tom got gigabits of RAM. :o) -- Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: nVidia G70 with 32 bit Etch Problem
On Tue, 2008-08-05 at 09:40 -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > Thomas H. George wrote: > > Objective: 32 bit chroot Etch on a system with an AMD 64 bit processor. > > Problem: Incorrect video driver for nVidia G70 card. > > > > To start I copied xorg.conf from the primary system - Lenny with an > > x86_64 linux kernel image. The display works fine on the primary > > system using the nv driver. When it failed on the chroot Etch I went > > to the nVidia website and downloaded a program to produce a driver and > > ran it from the chroot Etch. It detected the 64 bit processor and > > aborted. Next I installed and ran nvidia-xconfig. This changed the > > driver from nv to nvidia but when I tried to start gdm it failed with a > > message "Failed to load module 'nvidia' (module does not exist, 0)" > > > > Where can I find and download a binary nvidia driver? > > > > Did you ask this question on the nVidia Linux forum? That's not the best answer to this question, given that there is a Debian way to do this, and it's in the wiki. http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers -- Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
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Re: Benefits (and risks) of using Sid
Quoting Daniel Burrows :
On Sat, Aug 09, 2008 at 02:11:43PM +0200, Florian Kulzer was heard to say:
- I would like to be able to declare "favorites" among packages, to
guide conflict resolution.
I was actually working on this a few weeks ago but I got sidetracked
by the fact that the GTK+ interface was starting to become interesting
to hack on...
I was looking at something like this:
Aptitude::Resolver::Hints {
// To reject a package completely, like pressing "r" on
// all its versions:
"reject dselect";
// To reject a particular version, like pressing "r" on it:
"reject foopackage=1.0.0.bad-version-number";
// To always take a package over alternatives:
"accept aptitude-doc-cs";
// To always take a particular package version over alternatives:
"accept linux-2.6/etch";
// We can use patterns too. Maybe we want to prefer German docs:
"accept ?name(.*-doc-de)";
// Weights can be adjusted, too. Give a bonus to emacs and
// a penalty to vi:
"+100 ?name(^emacs)";
"-100 ?name(^vi)";
};
Ooh, that will be nice to have, thanks a lot!
(Also, I really like the Monty-Pythonesque absurd humor in the last example.)
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Re: chkrootkit infected ports 2881
On Mon, 2008-08-04 at 13:19 -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > filtered != open > >Filtered means that a firewall, filter, >or other network obstacle is blocking the port so that Nmap cannot > tell whether >it is open or closed. -- man nmap I wish nmap would call "filtered" by a more accurate description: "broken." Firewalls and routers must send back that the port is closed, not just silently ignore the connection. That's in the STDs. -- Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: chkrootkit infected ports 2881
On Mon, 2008-08-04 at 14:52 +0100, Adam Hardy wrote: > Yes, you are right, and I have been too slack to get around to changing it. I > am > looking at installing tripwire (after a fresh install) to be able to check up > what is going on after the fact. If you have more than one machine, you might consider talking to Tripwire, Inc. about getting Tripwire Enterprise. The open edition isn't bad for a few machines and a small number of users, but if you really need to track changes made by many administrators on many machines, Tripwire Enterprise is going to be better suited. -- Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Benefits (and risks) of using Sid
Quoting Nate Bargmann : * Florian Kulzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008 Aug 09 07:29 -0500]: [...] - It would be nice to have "apt-cache policy"-equivalent information in the versions display of packages. Right now I find it difficult to figure out in which archive a given version can be found. (As a matter of fact, that is the only reason I still use apt-cache, aside from very simple searches for which apt-cache's dumber-but-faster search function is sufficient.) Okay, here I'm out in left field as I don't know what apt-cache policy would do. I tend to avoid policy whenever I can. ;-) My statement was a bit unclear; I use the apt-cache policy command to see which versions are available for a given package and in which archives they are included. Aptitude tells me the former on its package information page, but not the latter (unless I missed something). Even if there is only one known version of a given package, I find it handy to be able to distinguish the following cases: - The package only exists in stable: time to check out the reasons for its removal and to look for alternatives - The package has the same version in stable, testing and unstable: probably well tested and mature, but maybe unlikely to get new features - The package only exists in unstable (and maybe testing): probably has interesting new features and bugs, it might be fun to play with it Right now I use the "limit view" function with appropriate search terms to get this kind of information; it would be nice if aptitude displayed the archive(s) next to the version number automatically. -- Regards, Florian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Benefits (and risks) of using Sid
On Tue, 2008-08-05 at 14:09 +0100, andy wrote: > Hi all > > This is just a general enquiry about the benefits of using Sid on a > desktop or a workstation. Aside from obtaining up-to-the-minute software > (and related patches), are there any other benefits to using Sid? I am > aware of the risks - i.e. frequently broken applications - but to be > honest, how often does this happen? This happens fairly often. I strongly reccommend testing instead unless you're adventurous and willing to file good bug reports. Testing has at least been in unstable long enough to not pick up showstopping bug reports before moving on to testing. -- Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Replacing hda - Easiest Way?
On Mon, 2008-08-04 at 11:52 -0700, Scarletdown wrote: > I'm going to be upgrading my primary hard drive (80GB) with a new 500GB > drive today. The old drive has 7 assorted partitions on it: [...] > So, what would be the easiest way to transfer everything from the old > drive to the new one? Check out the Hard Disk Upgrade HOWTO. http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Hard-Disk-Upgrade/index.html -- Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
APT recommendations/suggestions not obvious
Hi. why doesn't aptitude show me for what purpose a package reccomends or suggests another? I'd very much like that because sometimes, perhaps many times, I can't guess it and even if I can guess it, how do I know? I find that many times README.Debian doesn't mention those things. Any thoughts about this? Good week! -- Shachar Or | שחר אור http://ox.freeallweb.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: TTY 1 to 6 are garbled
On Wed, 2008-08-06 at 15:57 +0200, Aniruddha wrote: > I hope someone can help me with this. TTY 1 to 6 have a garbled display. > To clarify what I mean I've uploaded a screenshot, you can find it here: > http://img510.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tty1xh3.jpg I run Debian testing. > I have never seen this before, any help to fix this would be > appreciated! I believe that's a bug; installing fglrx seems to fix it. I've yet to reproduce it on anything but a Radeon-based display. -- Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Benefits (and risks) of using Sid
On Tue, 2008-08-05 at 21:07 -0700, Daniel Burrows wrote: > On Tue, Aug 05, 2008 at 01:00:44PM -0700, Paul Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was > heard to say: > > aptitude makes it easy to "plan the updates" > > How so? You can easily mark packages for installation, upgrade, reinstallation or removal without doing it right then. You can easiliy set marks, then quit aptitude to save the changes. This is especially handy if your users also log into their shell accounts: Curious users can run aptitude and see what changes are planned for the system the next time packages get upgrades. -- Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Does apt keep old packages?
On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 14:32 +0200, Aniruddha wrote: > On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 09:26 -0300, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: > > Aniruddha escreveu: > > > Unfortunately I have a fresh install, does > > > this mean I can't install an older package? > > > > > > > You should be able to find them at http://snapshot.debian.net/ > > Thanks! This is exactly what I was looking for :) Do you happen to know > if this site is an official Debian project? All official Debian project sites are *.debian.org. The .net sites aren't official, as far as I am aware of. -- Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
can't get to printer admin page using Iceweasel.
I am having difficulty doing any printer admin using Iceweasel. I have: Debian Lenny 2.6.25-2 IW 3.0.1 Opera 9.51 Opera works fine, Iceweasel just sets and spins... trying to open: https://192.168.10.2:631/printers/start printer I can get to the main admin page, but clicking on start printer... whatever.. just hangs Opera snaps right back with the appropriate page. here is what IW shows for my printer: Description: EPSON USB2.0 MFP(Hi-Speed) Location: Local Printer Printer Driver: Epson Stylus Photo R380 - CUPS+Gutenprint v5.0.2 Printer State: idle, accepting jobs, published. Device URI: epson:/dev/usb/lp0 -- Paul Cartwright Registered Linux user # 367800 Registered Ubuntu User #12459 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
instabillity with eclipse on lenny
Hi, I'm running eclipse (3.3 and 3.4) under debian lenny. Last week the program runned fine without any problems. This week however, the program is very instable and crash on regular basis (can be after 5 minutes sometimes). The only differers is that I have been updating my lenny distribution every day for the last weeks. I have been using 3.3 (binary downloaded from eclipse.org) for sometime, when the crashing was starting, I tried to download 3.4 with the same result. I know that this is not an ideal situation here with binary programs and from non-free section (sun jdk). What I'm looking for is some tips on how to trace down this problem so maybe I can fix it. Anyone have any good hints? Martin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Aptitude oddity
On Sat, Aug 09, 2008 at 06:17:47PM +0100, Bob Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > On Sat, Aug 09, 2008 at 09:13:33 -0700, Daniel Burrows ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > wrote: > > > On Sat, Aug 09, 2008 at 05:21:32PM +0200, Sven Joachim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > was heard to say: > > > It's a bug. If "aptitude safe-upgrade" can't find any packages that are > > > _not_ on hold (or forbidden), it will try to upgrade packages that you > > > don't want to. See http://bugs.debian.org/466228. > > > > That shouldn't happen now: the dependency resolver should refuse to > > break holds unless you set Aptitude::ProblemResolver::Allow-Break-Holds > > to true (it defaults to false). There's one exception I know of, which > > is that the greedy apt resolver will happily break holds (see #470035), > > but that doesn't even apply in the case of safe-upgrade. I would be > > interested in adding "-o Aptitude::CmdLine::Resolver-Debug=true" to the > > command line and seeing what you get. > > I don't quite follow this Daniel, sorry. Doing the above would start > aptitude in interactive mode? I'm afraid I only use it from the command > line but can assure you that it is still trying to safe-upgrade two of > my three held packages as per my original post. No, it'll spew large amounts of debugging information to your terminal which you can then paste into a mail to me. :-) $ aptitude -s -o "Aptitude::CmdLine::Resolver-Debug=true" safe-upgrade Actually, it would also be helpful if you could produce a resolver trace: $ aptitude -s -o "Aptitude::ProblemResolver::Trace-File=/tmp/somefilename" (pick a file that doesn't exist: aptitude will overwrite it) Thanks, Daniel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Problems with CUPS Error 401
Hi, I have the following config file and got the followed error. Has anyone a clue what the problem could be? The .15 IP is a Windows XP Client. Why is the client not authorized (cupsdSendError: 8 code=401 (Unauthorized))? Printing works perfect. Thanks a lot, Hartmut --[cupsd.conf]-- LogLevel debug #warning SystemGroup lpadmin Listen localhost:631 Listen 172.16.0.104:631 Listen /var/run/cups/cups.sock Browsing On BrowseOrder allow,deny BrowseAllow @LOCAL BrowseAllow 172.16.0.0/24 DefaultAuthType Basic DefaultEncryption Never # Required Require group printers Order allow,deny Allow localhost Allow 172.16.0.0/24 Encryption Required Require user @SYSTEM Order allow,deny Allow localhost Allow 172.16.0.0/24 AuthType Basic Require user @SYSTEM Order allow,deny Allow localhost Allow 172.16.0.0/24 Require user @OWNER @SYSTEM Order deny,allow Allow 172.16.0.0/24 AuthType Basic Require user @SYSTEM Order deny,allow Allow 172.16.0.0/24 Require user @OWNER @SYSTEM Order deny,allow Allow 172.16.0.0/24 Order deny,allow Allow 172.16.0.0/24 Printcap /var/run/cups/printcap and get the following error: ==> /var/log/cups/access_log <== 172.16.0.15 - - [09/Aug/2008:18:21:18 +0200] "POST /printers/BrotherHL1650 HTTP/1.1" 401 0 - - 172.16.0.15 - - [09/Aug/2008:18:21:18 +0200] "POST /printers/BrotherHL1650 HTTP/1.1" 401 0 - - 172.16.0.15 - - [09/Aug/2008:18:21:18 +0200] "POST /printers/BrotherHL1650 HTTP/1.1" 401 0 - - ==> /var/log/cups/error_log <== D [09/Aug/2008:18:21:18 +0200] cupsdCloseClient: 8 D [09/Aug/2008:18:21:18 +0200] cupsdAcceptClient: 8 from 172.16.0.15:631 (IPv4) D [09/Aug/2008:18:21:18 +0200] cupsdReadClient: 8 POST /printers/BrotherHL1650 HTTP/1.1 D [09/Aug/2008:18:21:18 +0200] cupsdAuthorize: No authentication data provided. D [09/Aug/2008:18:21:18 +0200] cupsdSendError: 8 code=401 (Unauthorized) D [09/Aug/2008:18:21:18 +0200] cupsdCloseClient: 8 D [09/Aug/2008:18:21:18 +0200] cupsdAcceptClient: 8 from 172.16.0.15:631 (IPv4) D [09/Aug/2008:18:21:18 +0200] cupsdReadClient: 8 POST /printers/BrotherHL1650 HTTP/1.1 D [09/Aug/2008:18:21:18 +0200] cupsdAuthorize: username="hartmut" D [09/Aug/2008:18:21:18 +0200] Get-Printer-Attributes http://172.16.0.104:631/printers/BrotherHL1650 D [09/Aug/2008:18:21:18 +0200] cupsdProcessIPPRequest: 8 status_code=0 (successful-ok) D [09/Aug/2008:18:21:18 +0200] cupsdCloseClient: 8 D [09/Aug/2008:18:21:18 +0200] cupsdAcceptClient: 8 from 172.16.0.15:631 (IPv4) D [09/Aug/2008:18:21:18 +0200] cupsdReadClient: 8 POST /printers/BrotherHL1650 HTTP/1.1 D [09/Aug/2008:18:21:18 +0200] cupsdAuthorize: No authentication data provided. D [09/Aug/2008:18:21:18 +0200] cupsdSendError: 8 code=401 (Unauthorized) D [09/Aug/2008:18:21:18 +0200] cupsdCloseClient: 8 D [09/Aug/2008:18:21:18 +0200] cupsdAcceptClient: 8 from 172.16.0.15:631 (IPv4) D [09/Aug/2008:18:21:18 +0200] cupsdReadClient: 8 POST /printers/BrotherHL1650 HTTP/1.1 D [09/Aug/2008:18:21:18 +0200] cupsdAuthorize: username="hartmut" D [09/Aug/2008:18:21:18 +0200] Get-Printer-Attributes http://172.16.0.104:631/printers/BrotherHL1650 D [09/Aug/2008:18:21:18 +0200] cupsdProcessIPPRequest: 8 status_code=0 (successful-ok) [...] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
our bittorrent tracker's gone senile?
rtorrent shows me this: debian-40r4a-amd64-DVD-1.iso 1.0 / 4473.5 MB Rate: 0.0 / 0.0 KB Uploaded: 0.0 MB [ 0%] --d --:-- [ R: 0.00] Tracker: [Failure reason "Requested download is not authorized for use with this tracker."] debian-40r4a-amd64-netinst.iso 1.5 / 147.0 MB Rate: 0.0 / 0.0 KB Uploaded: 0.0 MB [ 1%] --d --:-- [ R: 0.00] Tracker: [Failure reason "Requested download is not authorized for use with this tracker."] debian-40r4a-i386-DVD-2.iso 0.0 / 4479.6 MB Rate: 0.0 / 0.0 KB Uploaded: 0.0 MB [ 0%] --d --:-- [ R: 0.00] Tracker: [Failure reason "Requested download is not authorized for use with this tracker."] debian-40r4a-i386-DVD-3.iso 0.1 / 4320.1 MB Rate: 0.0 / 0.0 KB Uploaded: 0.0 MB [ 0%] --d --:-- [ R: 0.00] Tracker: [Failure reason "Requested download is not authorized for use with this tracker."] debian-40r4a-amd64-DVD-2.iso 0.0 / 4460.9 MB Rate: 0.0 / 0.0 KB Uploaded: 0.0 MB [ 0%] --d --:-- [ R: 0.00] Tracker: [Failure reason "Requested download is not authorized for use with this tracker."] debian-40r4a-amd64-DVD-3.iso 0.3 / 4171.3 MB Rate: 0.0 / 0.0 KB Uploaded: 0.0 MB [ 0%] --d --:-- [ R: 0.00] Tracker: [Failure reason "Requested download is not authorized for use with this tracker."] debian-40r4a-i386-DVD-1.iso 0.1 / 4480.1 MB Rate: 0.0 / 0.0 KB Uploaded: 0.0 MB [ 0%] --d --:-- [ R: 0.00] Tracker: [Failure reason "Requested download is not authorized for use with this tracker."] Now what is this? -- Shachar Or | שחר אור http://ox.freeallweb.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Aptitude oddity
On Sat, Aug 09, 2008 at 09:13:33 -0700, Daniel Burrows ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Sat, Aug 09, 2008 at 05:21:32PM +0200, Sven Joachim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > was heard to say: > > It's a bug. If "aptitude safe-upgrade" can't find any packages that are > > _not_ on hold (or forbidden), it will try to upgrade packages that you > > don't want to. See http://bugs.debian.org/466228. > > That shouldn't happen now: the dependency resolver should refuse to > break holds unless you set Aptitude::ProblemResolver::Allow-Break-Holds > to true (it defaults to false). There's one exception I know of, which > is that the greedy apt resolver will happily break holds (see #470035), > but that doesn't even apply in the case of safe-upgrade. I would be > interested in adding "-o Aptitude::CmdLine::Resolver-Debug=true" to the > command line and seeing what you get. I don't quite follow this Daniel, sorry. Doing the above would start aptitude in interactive mode? I'm afraid I only use it from the command line but can assure you that it is still trying to safe-upgrade two of my three held packages as per my original post. Aptitude version 0.4.11.8-1 with lenny. -- Bob Cox. Stoke Gifford, near Bristol, UK. Registered user #445000 with the Linux Counter - http://counter.li.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Aptitude oddity
On Sat, Aug 09, 2008 at 05:21:32PM +0200, Sven Joachim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > It's a bug. If "aptitude safe-upgrade" can't find any packages that are > _not_ on hold (or forbidden), it will try to upgrade packages that you > don't want to. See http://bugs.debian.org/466228. That shouldn't happen now: the dependency resolver should refuse to break holds unless you set Aptitude::ProblemResolver::Allow-Break-Holds to true (it defaults to false). There's one exception I know of, which is that the greedy apt resolver will happily break holds (see #470035), but that doesn't even apply in the case of safe-upgrade. I would be interested in adding "-o Aptitude::CmdLine::Resolver-Debug=true" to the command line and seeing what you get. Daniel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Benefits (and risks) of using Sid
On Sat, Aug 09, 2008 at 02:11:43PM +0200, Florian Kulzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
was heard to say:
> - I would like to be able to declare "favorites" among packages, to
> guide conflict resolution.
I was actually working on this a few weeks ago but I got sidetracked
by the fact that the GTK+ interface was starting to become interesting
to hack on...
I was looking at something like this:
Aptitude::Resolver::Hints {
// To reject a package completely, like pressing "r" on
// all its versions:
"reject dselect";
// To reject a particular version, like pressing "r" on it:
"reject foopackage=1.0.0.bad-version-number";
// To always take a package over alternatives:
"accept aptitude-doc-cs";
// To always take a particular package version over alternatives:
"accept linux-2.6/etch";
// We can use patterns too. Maybe we want to prefer German docs:
"accept ?name(.*-doc-de)";
// Weights can be adjusted, too. Give a bonus to emacs and
// a penalty to vi:
"+100 ?name(^emacs)";
"-100 ?name(^vi)";
};
Daniel
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Re: Aptitude oddity
On Sat, Aug 09, 2008 at 17:21:32 +0200, Sven Joachim ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On 2008-08-09 17:11 +0200, Bob Cox wrote: > > > I have some packages on hold for a while and they have remained on hold > > during several safe-upgrades. Now, all of a sudden, aptitude wants to > > upgrade two of them. [...] > It's a bug. If "aptitude safe-upgrade" can't find any packages that are > _not_ on hold (or forbidden), it will try to upgrade packages that you > don't want to. See http://bugs.debian.org/466228. Thank you Sven. I had already done a safe-upgrade earlier today so that explains why I encountered this bug for the first time. (I did look through the list of outstanding bugs but missed yours because it was a long way down the list!) Thanks again. -- Bob Cox. Stoke Gifford, near Bristol, UK. Registered user #445000 with the Linux Counter - http://counter.li.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Aptitude oddity
On 2008-08-09 17:11 +0200, Bob Cox wrote:
> I have some packages on hold for a while and they have remained on hold
> during several safe-upgrades. Now, all of a sudden, aptitude wants to
> upgrade two of them.
>
> trantor:/home/bob# aptitude search ~ahold
> ih iceweasel- lightweight web browser based on Mozilla
> ih iceweasel-l10n-en-gb - English (Great Britain) language package for
> Iceweasel
> ihA linux-image-2.6-686 - Linux 2.6 image on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/P4
>
> trantor:/home/bob# aptitude safe-upgrade
> Reading package lists... Done
> Building dependency tree
> Reading state information... Done
> Reading extended state information
> Initializing package states... Done
> Reading task descriptions... Done
> The following packages have been kept back:
> cupsys-driver-gutenprint libneon25
> The following packages will be REMOVED:
> libmyspell3c2{u}
> The following packages will be upgraded:
> iceweasel iceweasel-l10n-en-gb
> 2 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 to remove and 2 not upgraded.
> Need to get 0B/1268kB of archives. After unpacking 23.5MB will be freed.
> Do you want to continue? [Y/n/?]
>
> Does this look like a bug or am I missing something obvious?
It's a bug. If "aptitude safe-upgrade" can't find any packages that are
_not_ on hold (or forbidden), it will try to upgrade packages that you
don't want to. See http://bugs.debian.org/466228.
Sven
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Aptitude oddity
I have some packages on hold for a while and they have remained on hold
during several safe-upgrades. Now, all of a sudden, aptitude wants to
upgrade two of them.
trantor:/home/bob# aptitude search ~ahold
ih iceweasel- lightweight web browser based on Mozilla
ih iceweasel-l10n-en-gb - English (Great Britain) language package for
Iceweasel
ihA linux-image-2.6-686 - Linux 2.6 image on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/P4
trantor:/home/bob# aptitude safe-upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Reading extended state information
Initializing package states... Done
Reading task descriptions... Done
The following packages have been kept back:
cupsys-driver-gutenprint libneon25
The following packages will be REMOVED:
libmyspell3c2{u}
The following packages will be upgraded:
iceweasel iceweasel-l10n-en-gb
2 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 to remove and 2 not upgraded.
Need to get 0B/1268kB of archives. After unpacking 23.5MB will be freed.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n/?]
Does this look like a bug or am I missing something obvious?
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Re: Benefits (and risks) of using Sid
On Fri, 2008-08-08 at 01:05 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 08/07/08 23:42, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 07, 2008 at 09:56:19PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > >> On 08/07/08 20:20, s. keeling wrote: > >>> Damon L. Chesser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 17:45 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > > On 08/07/08 17:14, Damon L. Chesser wrote: > >> Displeasure? Synaptic is brain dead simple, what's not to like? > > It's a GUI app? > Very funny Ron. Really. > >>> No, I think he was serious, and I agree with him. Do you want > >>> your access to the pkging system to be borked when X is borked? > >>> Especially in this nvidia crazed age? > >> I agree with the point you are trying to make, but best to: > >> s/nvidia/ati > >> > >> More especially: > >> s/nvidia/display manager/ > >> > > > > > > no kidding... have to debug why gdm (work machine, for the general > > user...) locks the machine hard when a user logs out... sheesh. I may > > have to teach people how to login properly. ;-O > > I put this at the bottom of my family members' .bashrc files. Works > like a charm. > > if [ "$TERM" == "linux" ]; then > startx > exit > fi > > -- > Ron Johnson, Jr. > Jefferson LA USA Ron, I like that. Alleviates the need for a login manager at all and if all win users snooping around would not even know what to type at the login: prompt. But does this not kill any vt's for that user? ie, cntrl-alt-F2, login, wham, GUI and not a term. I am sitting here turning over diff. scenarios in my head, how to accomplish them using this login script. That is one of them. I need more time! I don't have enough to play with. -- Damon L. Chesser [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linkedin.com/in/dchesser signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Benefits (and risks) of using Sid
On Fri, 2008-08-08 at 22:31 -0700, Daniel Burrows wrote: > On Fri, Aug 08, 2008 at 07:00:52PM -0400, "Damon L. Chesser" <[EMAIL > PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > > On Fri, 2008-08-08 at 06:58 -0700, Daniel Burrows wrote: > > > One of my active anti-goals is making aptitude the best package > > > manager after you enter 500 configuration options to enable all the > > > useful features. (hello, mutt) The new code will be the default > > > behavior, with configuration options to selectively re-enable old > > > behavior for people who prefer it. c.f. the change in the behavior > > > of the installation commands several years ago. > > > > > > Daniel > > > > Daniel, > > > > I would suggest you use EMACS as a front end. > > Already been done, and by none less than Junichi Uekawa: > > http://www.netfort.gr.jp/~dancer/software/apt-mode.html > > Sadly, though, there do not appear to be Debian packages of it. > > Daniel Impressive. Currently I am running F9 on this box. (Don't hate me! I am just forcing myself to learn the RHEL way of thought, and I hate every min. of it.) But to be honest, This thread makes me want to re-install Sid on this box (the one I use the most) just so I can poke at aptitude ncurses again. I hope you know that mostly I was poking fun and not serious, except for the part about aptitude (ncurses) not working the way I think, that is serious, but it reflects badly on my short comings, not your code. Thanks for taking the time to write it in the first place and for upgrading it. With you you guys, Vista would feel warm and fuzzy. > > -- Damon L. Chesser [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linkedin.com/in/dchesser signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Benefits (and risks) of using Sid
* Florian Kulzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008 Aug 09 07:29 -0500]: > On Wed, Aug 06, 2008 at 20:01:46 -0700, Daniel Burrows wrote: > > [ snip: a bit of goofing off ] > > > I actually am curious to hear what people like about the program, > > because I'm (slowly) working out ideas for redesigning the interface > > and I don't want to accidentally break useful features. Any breakage > > should be fully intentional, that's my motto. > > > > Hence my oh-so-subtle prodding... > > Here is a list of my favorite aptitude-interactive-UI features (I run > Sid; many of them are probably less relevant for "stable" users): > > - browsing the list of new packages, then clearing it > > - the quick way to evaluate aptitude's proposals for resolving > dependency conflicts during an upgrade > > - the summary of the scheduled actions, especially the sorting in > categories (upgraded, installed as a dependency, removed since no > longer needed, etc.) > > - Fine-grained control of installation of recommended and suggested > packages: Before any scheduled action is carried out, I can look at > the relevant list of recommended and suggested packages and decide > which ones I want to install and if I want to mark any given one as > automatic. > > - quickly put a hold or a forbid-version on a package > > - looking at changelogs before I let aptitude do something > > - consulting apt-listbugs and apt-listchanges before things actually > happen (I think that this one is the same in command-line use, > though.) > > - the "limit view" function combined with the powerful search patterns > when I don't yet know which packages I need for $FEATURE > > - quick traversal of dependency chains, forward and reverse, for the > rare cases in which aptitude cannot figure out what to do by itself Excellent summary, Florian, and I found myself nodding that I've used each and every one of these features on multiple occasions. > Some very subjective ideas for possible improvements (not necessarily > simplifications of the UI, though): > > - Sometimes it would be handy if I could fine-tune the aggressiveness of > aptitude's conflict resolution behavior, i.e. when I notice that the > normal "U" behavior leads to undesirable actions then I would like to > be able to gradually move from "safe-upgrade" to "full-upgrade" > behavior while I can see what is going to happen in the interactive > interface. I could stop at the optimal point and would only have to > fix a few things manually. Nice. That would be sweet. > - I would like to be able to declare "favorites" among packages, to > guide conflict resolution. Yes! > - It would be nice to have "apt-cache policy"-equivalent information in > the versions display of packages. Right now I find it difficult to > figure out in which archive a given version can be found. (As a matter > of fact, that is the only reason I still use apt-cache, aside from > very simple searches for which apt-cache's dumber-but-faster search > function is sufficient.) Okay, here I'm out in left field as I don't know what apt-cache policy would do. I tend to avoid policy whenever I can. ;-) > I am also looking forward to seeing how the summer-of-code GTK+ > interface will turn out; maybe that will help to bring the remaining > benighted souls towards the light... What convinced me to use Aptitude back in 2000/01 or whenever was the improved way packages were grouped and displayed. Being informed of new packages and then easily "forgetting" them has led me to discover some things over the years that I would have missed. To me the killer function of Aptitude is being able to start at some arbitrary package and work one's way through its dependency chain, either what it depends on or what depends on it. For the record, I've yet to use Aptitude in commandline mode as I always use the UI. I've nothing against a GUI package manager per se, but I guess I'd rather reach for Aptitude since I now know it rather than something else. Synaptic was going to involve its own learning curve that I didn't care to devote time to so I just open a term window and fire up Aptitude. Also, Aptitude does carry forward some of the good aspects of dselect in the way the packages are presented. This is very much like the IDE thread where some philosophies of EMACS and Vim are presented. I can relate as far as Aptitude is concerned even though I avoid both editors like the plague even though I spent a lot of time last winter wanting to like EMACS. Go figure. :-/ - Nate >> -- "The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears this is true." Ham radio, Linux, bikes, and more: http://n0nb.us/index.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Router IPv6
On Fri, Aug 08, 2008 at 10:16:30PM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > On Sat, Aug 09, 2008 at 09:08:56AM +0700, Zaki Akhmad wrote: > > On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 4:25 AM, Alex Samad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > modprobe ipv6 > > > > I can't see anything happens here > > # modprobe ipv6 > > I suspect that what Alex is getting at is simple. to use ipv6 you yep, sorry > need, at a minimum, to have the module inserted. Then perhaps you > should do a little research on using ipv6. Specific questions about > problems you encounter while *trying* to us ipv6 will likely get you > better results. have a look at ip6tables and ip especially ip -6 a and ip -6 r, packages to look at radvd. Also sysctl -a | grep ipv6 > > cordially, > > A -- "We look forward to analyzing and working with legislation that will make�it would hope�put a free press's mind at ease that you're not being denied information you shouldn't see." - George W. Bush 04/14/2005 Washington, DC signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: CIFS mount errors
On Thu, Aug 07, 2008 at 12:01:31 +1000, Robert S wrote: > I have several mounted CIFS shares to a Win XP Pro server. This > usually functions well for a few days/hours then I get input/output > errors. When I unmount them and try to reconnect I get: > > # mount -a -t cifs > mount error 5 = Input/output error > Refer to the mount.cifs(8) manual page (e.g.man mount.cifs) > mount error 5 = Input/output error > Refer to the mount.cifs(8) manual page (e.g.man mount.cifs) > > > I get this in my syslog > > Aug 7 11:39:38 debian kernel: CIFS VFS: Send error in SessSetup = -5 > Aug 7 11:39:38 debian kernel: CIFS VFS: cifs_mount failed w/return code = -5 > Aug 7 11:39:38 debian kernel: CIFS VFS: Send error in SessSetup = -5 > Aug 7 11:39:39 debian kernel: CIFS VFS: cifs_mount failed w/return code = -5 > > I hope somebody can help with this - its a very frustrating problem. > I haven't found a fix anywhere on the net. This is a stab in the dark: Did you already try to explicitly disable the Linux extensions? Run echo "0" > /proc/fs/cifs/LinuxExtensionsEnabled before you mount the share. -- Regards,| http://users.icfo.es/Florian.Kulzer Florian | -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Benefits (and risks) of using Sid
On Wed, Aug 06, 2008 at 20:01:46 -0700, Daniel Burrows wrote: [ snip: a bit of goofing off ] > I actually am curious to hear what people like about the program, > because I'm (slowly) working out ideas for redesigning the interface > and I don't want to accidentally break useful features. Any breakage > should be fully intentional, that's my motto. > > Hence my oh-so-subtle prodding... Here is a list of my favorite aptitude-interactive-UI features (I run Sid; many of them are probably less relevant for "stable" users): - browsing the list of new packages, then clearing it - the quick way to evaluate aptitude's proposals for resolving dependency conflicts during an upgrade - the summary of the scheduled actions, especially the sorting in categories (upgraded, installed as a dependency, removed since no longer needed, etc.) - Fine-grained control of installation of recommended and suggested packages: Before any scheduled action is carried out, I can look at the relevant list of recommended and suggested packages and decide which ones I want to install and if I want to mark any given one as automatic. - quickly put a hold or a forbid-version on a package - looking at changelogs before I let aptitude do something - consulting apt-listbugs and apt-listchanges before things actually happen (I think that this one is the same in command-line use, though.) - the "limit view" function combined with the powerful search patterns when I don't yet know which packages I need for $FEATURE - quick traversal of dependency chains, forward and reverse, for the rare cases in which aptitude cannot figure out what to do by itself Some very subjective ideas for possible improvements (not necessarily simplifications of the UI, though): - Sometimes it would be handy if I could fine-tune the aggressiveness of aptitude's conflict resolution behavior, i.e. when I notice that the normal "U" behavior leads to undesirable actions then I would like to be able to gradually move from "safe-upgrade" to "full-upgrade" behavior while I can see what is going to happen in the interactive interface. I could stop at the optimal point and would only have to fix a few things manually. - I would like to be able to declare "favorites" among packages, to guide conflict resolution. - It would be nice to have "apt-cache policy"-equivalent information in the versions display of packages. Right now I find it difficult to figure out in which archive a given version can be found. (As a matter of fact, that is the only reason I still use apt-cache, aside from very simple searches for which apt-cache's dumber-but-faster search function is sufficient.) I am also looking forward to seeing how the summer-of-code GTK+ interface will turn out; maybe that will help to bring the remaining benighted souls towards the light... -- Regards,| http://users.icfo.es/Florian.Kulzer Florian | -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problems with an "old" nvidia 6100 GO
On Sat August 9 2008, Nicolas FRANCOIS wrote: > 2) if I use the free driver (the "nv" one), everything is fine... except > I don't have ANY access to OpenGL ! All applications requiring OpenGL > fail : games, blender... Kpovmodeler starts, but the graphic widgets show > an error message. > > Can you help me on one of those two problems at least ? > > Thanks. I used this script, it makes it very easy.. just run ( from a alt-F1 terminal session) #sgfxi -c once you have the right apps installed. http://blog.creonfx.com/linux/how-to-install-nvidia-driver-on-2625-2-debian-kernel-with-xen -- Paul Cartwright Registered Linux user # 367800 Registered Ubuntu User #12459 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Problems with an "old" nvidia 6100 GO
Hi. I have a laptop with the above mentioned GC, and have two big problems with it : 1) if I use the proprietary driver (the "nvidia" one), when I boot, I see a black screen. X (and gdm) starts OK, no mention of any error in the Xorg.0.log file, but the screen is black. I can switch to a console (the first I switch to goes red, but after another switch, it's OK), I can even blindly login from the X console, but that's not what I would dream of since the screen stays black ! 2) if I use the free driver (the "nv" one), everything is fine... except I don't have ANY access to OpenGL ! All applications requiring OpenGL fail : games, blender... Kpovmodeler starts, but the graphic widgets show an error message. Can you help me on one of those two problems at least ? Thanks. \bye -- Nicolas FRANCOIS | /\ http://nicolas.francois.free.fr | |__| X--/\\ We are the Micro$oft. _\_V Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated. darthvader penguin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
USB to IDE Interfaces
I want to be able to connect various IDE drives to a Linux system via USB port for backups, restores, and diagnostics such as: Is this drive good for anything other than a paper weight? I'd hate to buy an interface and find out I need some special driver that only exists under Windows. I have used dedicated USB devices that had IDE drives in them and they worked fine all be it slo-o-owly on a USB2 port, but this would be different because each IDE drive is going to be formatted differently and be anywhere from gigabytes to 40 megabytes in capacity. If I understand things right, the IDE drive itself registers its parameters so this may not be an issue and the device should respond to mount, dd, and fdisk like any other device. I am hoping to upgrade the IDE drives on some older Linux systems from 10 GB to larger and use the USB to IDE converter to assist in transfering files and using the still functional smaller drives as archival storage. Any ideas and recommendations as to which interfaces are good or which should be avoided are appreciated. Thank you. Martin McCormick WB5AGZ Stillwater, OK Systems Engineer OSU Information Technology Department Telecommunications Services Group -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: what's the best IDE for C programming in Debian?
On 2008-08-09 10:23 +0200, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > but will those instance of emacsclient start up with their own version > of .emacs tailored to that specific use? If so, then I'm all for > it. (I know, the proof is in the execution) No, but why is there a need for it? Probably you want a specific major mode for editing mail, such as post-mode from Debian's post-el package. If you have special needs, you put some code into the mode's hook. All this can be done from _one_ .emacs. Sven -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: what's the best IDE for C programming in Debian?
Hi, I have been using Vim and Emacs for years but I've to admit that Netbeans and Eclipse are really great, specialized IDEs for these kind of tasks. I'd try some of them. For example, last two years I've been developing in C++ for my company and Netbeans has all you need and more: intelligentsense, subversion integration (amazing!!), great editor, . I don't know, simply wonderful. Moreover, both Netbeans and Eclipse are free software. I hope it helps. __ LLama Gratis a cualquier PC del Mundo. Llamadas a fijos y móviles desde 1 céntimo por minuto. http://es.voice.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Any isencrypted function available?
On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 09:12:33AM +0900, buyoppy wrote: > Is there any 'isencrypted 'function available on Debian which judges > whether some data is encrypted or not? Unless the ciphertext contains some sort of standard header (e.g. *.gpg files), then no. The file utility will report file types for anything it knows about, such as pgp/gpg messages, but will report unmarked ciphertext as "data" or "text" in most cases. -- "Oh, look: rocks!" -- Doctor Who, "Destiny of the Daleks" -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New Debian Install Blackscreen
On Sat, Aug 09, 2008 at 01:08:37AM -0500, Mumia W.. wrote: > On 08/08/2008 09:57 PM, Taahir wrote: > >I am a fairly new linux user, and have recently installed Debian on its > >own hard > >disk in what will eventually become a dual-boot system. The Windows drive > >is > >currently not connected, so that isn't a factor. My graphics card is an > >nvidia > >8800 gts. > > > >My problem is that when I start up Debian, I get the initialization > >screen, which > >runs fully, and disappears just after GNOME starts up. I then get what I > >think > >is a password-prompt beep from the motherboard, but the monitor remains > >off, > >which is how it normally handles being given an incorrect resolution. > > > >I can, however, successfully log into the single-user root option that > >grub gives > >me, and get a fully functioning terminal. My question is how to go about > >setting > >GNOME into VGA (or some low resolution) through the terminal. > > > >Thanks in advance, > > > > Go into a virtual console by doing Control-Alt-F2 on the keyboard. You > should get a text mode screen that will allow you to log in. After > you've logged in, you can edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf to use another driver, > e.g. "vesa". First copy xorg.conf to a backup file: > > cd /etc/X11 > cp xorg.conf xorg.conf.bak > > You didn't say what distribution of Debian you're using, but what you do > to xorg.conf differs with the distribution. > I don't think, that this will work. I had the same problem and the only possibility to log in was in the single-user-mode. If you are running etch, it is possible to configure the graphic settings with dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg I think. With the more unstable distributions you have to edit the /etc/X11/xorg.configure. Nice greetings Richard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: what's the best IDE for C programming in Debian?
On Sat, Aug 09, 2008 at 08:19:14AM +0200, Sven Joachim wrote: > On 2008-08-09 07:09 +0200, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > > But emacs I've used for writing code. Not a lot of code, but enough to > > get the basic stuff wired in. I also use it as a general purpose > > editor (it's my default editor in mutt, for example, with it's own > > .emacs just for mutt, so I don't load up a bunch of unneeded stuff. > > As a believing member of the Church of Emacs I have to step in here and > accuse you of severe abuse. ;-) please do! > Your habit is very inconvenient and > clumsy, really. The Right Thing is to put (server-start) in your .emacs > and use emacsclient as $EDITOR. There's no need to start more than one > instance of Emacs! but will those instance of emacsclient start up with their own version of .emacs tailored to that specific use? If so, then I'm all for it. (I know, the proof is in the execution) A signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: New Debian Install Blackscreen
On Sat, Aug 09, 2008 at 02:46:44AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 08/09/08 00:32, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > [snip] >> >> there are several ways to go about this. What you need to do first, >> I think, is find out which video driver is trying to run that >> card. Realise that the 8xxx series cards are having lots of trouble >> with the nvidia drivers. I've given up on getting decent 2d >> performance for now and moved back to the nv driver. But that's >> another story. > > I think that's because they don't have internal frame buffers, but are > strongly tuned towards DX10 performance. I wouldn't know about that. The nvnews thread about sucky drivers for the 8xxx cards is quite long now. Some people seem to be getting improved performance out of 177 beta, but some people seem to be getting no improvement at all. I was playing around with fun stuff... compositing and so forth but have subsequently given up... just a distraction anyway. I honestly thought that nv wouldn't do xrandr and dual head. I was wrong. I'm happy now. I've turned off all the glitzy stuff and gotten back to work. I suppose nouveau might fix some of that. When they claim even rudimentary support for the series, I'll try it out. I sort of regret buying the card. I knew there were problems with it, but figured it wouldn't be that big a deal and the fix would be out sooner or later. shrug. A signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [OT] Debian stickers in India
Hello Thomas and Jos, Thanks for your replies. I started with the URLs suggested by you http://www.debian.org/misc/merchandise (Thomas Preud'homme) and http://www.debianshop.com (Jos Collin) but they seem to require credit card for any purchase. But I don't use any credit card or online money transfer (I am kind of paranoid about these things). Anyways, starting with these links I got to a site called http://openranger.org. They offer cash on delivery option, and the debian sticker they sell looks cool too (just the right size for a smallish laptop). So I ordered from them. Let's see what happens. In the meantime, I am looking at http://www.debian.org/events/material#stickers and am trying to make one myself :-) Jos Collin: > Also if you are interested in free software why can't you donate the amount, > which you pay for the sticker to fsf.org? Donation (whatever little I can) has never been any problem. Only thing is that I don't use a Credit Card (or any kind of online money transactions). Instead I do whatever I can to spread the spirit of Free Software among my students and friends. Occasionally I also file bug reports and send a patch to some project I care about. That way I try to pay back a little bit to the community that means so much to me. Regards, Santanu Chatterjee -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Using Logitech Quickcam on Debian 4.0
On Saturday 09 August 2008 08:14, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > On Sat, Aug 09, 2008 at 11:37:47AM +0800, Bret Busby wrote: > > On Sat, 9 Aug 2008, Shachar Or wrote: > >>> there is both a gspca-source and gspca-modules-... packages. IIRC, the > >>> spca5xx is being replaced upstream... > >> > >> All this talk about spca... Isn't there a quickcam specific driver? I > >> know there is... qc-usb-source is the package. I used for some logitech > >> quickcam some time ago. > > > > That's what I thought, when I was reading the list of packages found by > > Synaptic, when I searched for webcam. > > > > However, ... we are all of differing levels of Debian system > > administration competency, and I rely on packages being "ready to go" - > > either using Synaptic to download and install a package, and then > > expecting for it to be ready to use, or, using apt-get install, or, > > downloading a package and using dpkg -i . But, not having to compile and > > build a package. > > > > I found > > "The qc-usb-source package is a skeleton for creating a kernel module > > to drive Logitech's QuickCam Express webcam and other webcams with > > similar chipsets." > > and > > "qc-usb-utils > > Utility programs for the qc-usb kernel module > > Utilities to tweak paramters of your QuickCam Express or similar > > webcam. These programs are completely useless without a > > qc-usb-modules package." > > > > That sounds like that needs a kernel build to use - much too advanced > > for me. > > no no not at all. you can use module assistant, I'd bet.I just > checked, it is one of the packages you can build with > module-assistant. > > at a minimum, you can do: > > aptitude install module-assistant > m-a update > m-a prepare > m-a a-i qc-usb > > if all goes well, you'll be done. > > module-assistant also has a curses interface you can play with. Be > sure to check out /usr/share/doc/module-assistant/HOWTO > > it's very easy. Very. > > A -- Shachar Or | שחר אור http://ox.freeallweb.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New Debian Install Blackscreen
On 08/09/08 00:32, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: [snip] there are several ways to go about this. What you need to do first, I think, is find out which video driver is trying to run that card. Realise that the 8xxx series cards are having lots of trouble with the nvidia drivers. I've given up on getting decent 2d performance for now and moved back to the nv driver. But that's another story. I think that's because they don't have internal frame buffers, but are strongly tuned towards DX10 performance. -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Scientists are people, too. IOW, they also "crave power, money, respect, and influence, and they also fear for their jobs. Each can be a healthy motivator, but each has the ability to turn a good scientist into a bad one; and in some cases, they can turn a good scientist into a charlatan." http://thefutureofthings.com/book/3/the-bomb-that-never-was.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: what's the best IDE for C programming in Debian?
On 08/09/08 01:19, Sven Joachim wrote: On 2008-08-09 07:09 +0200, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: But emacs I've used for writing code. Not a lot of code, but enough to get the basic stuff wired in. I also use it as a general purpose editor (it's my default editor in mutt, for example, with it's own .emacs just for mutt, so I don't load up a bunch of unneeded stuff. As a believing member of the Church of Emacs I have to step in here and accuse you of severe abuse. ;-) Your habit is very inconvenient and clumsy, really. The Right Thing is to put (server-start) in your .emacs and use emacsclient as $EDITOR. There's no need to start more than one instance of Emacs! That seems redundant, since Emacs is the OS, and thus is running soon after POST. Does that age me? Emacs-as-OS comments just don't have the same impact when using a 2GB AMD 64X2 machine as they on a 8MB Sun3... -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Scientists are people, too. IOW, they also "crave power, money, respect, and influence, and they also fear for their jobs. Each can be a healthy motivator, but each has the ability to turn a good scientist into a bad one; and in some cases, they can turn a good scientist into a charlatan." http://thefutureofthings.com/book/3/the-bomb-that-never-was.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
