Re: You are a broken record (was Re: friend cannot see me on msn)

[en0f]

Paul Johnson wrote:
> Ron Johnson wrote:
>> On 10/21/08 12:08, Paul Johnson wrote:
>>> Andreas Berglund wrote:
 I just added a friend of mine on msn. I can see her and I can send
 messages to her but when I'm online it looks to her like I'm offline
 and none of her messages reach me. She tried to send an invitation to
 me several times but none of them reached me. I have no idea where to
 even begin looking so any help would be very much appreciated.
 The client I'm using is kopete 0.12.3, I don't know what client my
 friend uses but if you need to know I can ask her and I'd be happy to
 provide any other information that might be relevant.

>>> MSN was obsoleted years ago when XMPP became the standard for IM.  Have
>>> you considered joining us in this millennium and dropping the
>>> proprietary IM systems entirely?
>> Only if he wants to give up his non-tech friends that wouldn't know an
>> XMPP from an STD, and don't really give a rat's arse.
>>
> Ron, if you can't be nice, please leave the Debian lists.  You've been
> nothing but obnoxious in every reply to one of my messages for months
> now.  It's not appreciated, nor welcome, here.

Lolz :D


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Re: Hard freezes with Sid/Experimental

[Kelly Clowers]

On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 9:18 PM, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 10/21/08 20:47, Kelly Clowers wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Over about two days, I have had three hard freezes with Sid/Experimental.
>> A few minutes ago, I saw one happen (the others where while I was away).
>> The computer instantly went from fully functional, no problems to frozen
>> solid. Nothing moving on screen, no response to ctrl-alt-backspace or
>> ctrl-alt-del. No response to ping or power button "soft off". The music
>> was replace by a fast cycling jittering/buzzing noise. After a hard reset,
>> everything is fine.
>>
>> The most recent obvious candidate change is the most recent kernel update,
>> which I did shortly before the first freeze. This was the upgrade to
>> linux-image-2.6.26-1-686 version 2.6.26-9.
>>
>> I see nothing in syslog - everything is normal and then BAM! - restart.
>
> If possible, go to a separate computer and try to ssh in from there.

I tried that along with the ping, but there is no response.

>> If anyone has any ideas or advice, that would be great.
>> Otherwise, I guess this a warning to be alert for problems.
>
> Only useful if you specify your hardware, and which drivers are controlling
> them.

Radeon 9550 - radeon driver
Cirrus Logic CS 46xx - CS46xx driver
ADMtek NC100 - tulip driver
onboard sata raid - sata_sil
IDE controller - amd74xx
nForce2 chipset

Try and actually send to the list this time.
Must be bedtime, I am getting too tired to think straight.


Cheers,
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Re: You are a broken record (was Re: friend cannot see me on msn)

[Paul Johnson]

Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 10/21/08 12:08, Paul Johnson wrote:
>> Andreas Berglund wrote:
>>> I just added a friend of mine on msn. I can see her and I can send
>>> messages to her but when I'm online it looks to her like I'm offline
>>> and none of her messages reach me. She tried to send an invitation to
>>> me several times but none of them reached me. I have no idea where to
>>> even begin looking so any help would be very much appreciated.
>>> The client I'm using is kopete 0.12.3, I don't know what client my
>>> friend uses but if you need to know I can ask her and I'd be happy to
>>> provide any other information that might be relevant.
> >>
>> MSN was obsoleted years ago when XMPP became the standard for IM.  Have
>> you considered joining us in this millennium and dropping the
>> proprietary IM systems entirely?
>
> Only if he wants to give up his non-tech friends that wouldn't know an
> XMPP from an STD, and don't really give a rat's arse.
>
Ron, if you can't be nice, please leave the Debian lists.  You've been
nothing but obnoxious in every reply to one of my messages for months
now.  It's not appreciated, nor welcome, here.



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Re: friend cannot see me on msn

[Paul Johnson]

Andreas Berglund wrote:
> Actually I haven't considered that ;-), at least not yet. I'm not a
> frequent  user of IM so I have not kept up with developments in the
> field for a long time. Would that allow me to keep in touch with
> people on MSN cause there's no way I'm gonna be able to get my friend
> to switch?
There are various MSN transports on various servers, so yes, after a
fashion there is.  Generally the functionality across these transports
is limited to text, buddy icons and presence information.




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Re: USB ownership

[Aioanei Rares]

On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 9:22 PM, Emanoil Kotsev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> --- On Tue, 10/21/08, Paul Cartwright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > From: Paul Cartwright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Re: USB ownership
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> > Date: Tuesday, October 21, 2008, 12:48 PM
>  > Emanoil Kotsev wrote:
> > > Paul Cartwright wrote:
> > >
> > >> Andrei Popescu wrote:
> > >>> On Mon,20.Oct.08, 17:06:25, Emanoil Kotsev
> > wrote:
> > >>>
> >  I suggested to use device by uuid
> > 
> > 
> > /dev/disk/by-uuid/3fca395b-d75d-44ab-98be-9ec05b2e45fd
> >  /media/usb_2G_part3 auto
> > users,noauto,atime,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 0
> > >>>
> > >>> You can shorten this a bit:
> > >>>
> > >>> UUID=3fca
> > >>>
> > >>> It's not much, but given that the UUID is
> > already very long...
> > >>>
> > >> here is my /etc/fstab entry ( that works)
> > >> UUID=686C-7E81 /media/usb_DAWGS vfat
> > >> users,atime,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid,noauto  0 0
> > >>
> > >> ( that was all one line)
> > >>
> > >> in the /media folder is a file called .hal-mtab
> > >> I was trying to add an entry in there for this, so
> > my wife could unmount
> > >> it, but I was not successful. The fstab entry
> > still mounts it:
> > >>
> > >> drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 4096 2008-08-16 15:14
> > usb_DAWGS
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > > For me the UUID= entry did not work
> > >
> > > The /dev/disk/by-uuid work
> > >
> > > Paul, the .hal entries are system entries they do not
> > have to be set in
> > > fstab
> > >
> > I tried adding that /dev/disk/by-uuid entry to .hal-mtab ,
> > but no change.
> > I think the REAL way to do it would be with a
> > /etc/udev/rules.d entry,
> > but after looking at man udev and the 50.udev-rules file,
> > it is way over
> > my head. I give up. I'll just have to tell her to
> > switch to my user to
> > add entries, since I seem to own everything inserted.
> >
> >
>
> I don't think you have to mess up with the .hal entries
>
> the correct place would be /etc/fstab
>
> you need the /dev/disk  entry in the fstab file
>
> I've tried it as I said it didn't work with UUID but with this entry in the
> /etc/fstab file all was fine
>
> regards
>
>
>
> regards
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Re: resolution change on startx -- :1

[Chris Bannister]

On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 11:11:16PM -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 08:09:43PM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote:
> > Apparently nspluginwrapper allows flash on amd64.
>  
> Last I checked with the maintainer, not for Etch amd64.  Yes for Lenny.

Ahhh! of course. At least you are aware of it.

> If it has been backported to Etch, Lenny is so close now that I can

Mmmm there is a thread about DFSG violations in the kernel on
[EMAIL PROTECTED] which may delay the actual release. Looks like there
will have to be a GR to sort it out.

I hope they don't "rip out" *too* much hardware support. :)

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Re: grub complains type mismatch and won't boot

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On Tuesday 21 October 2008, T o n g <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote 
about 'grub complains type mismatch and won't boot':
>While trying to boot from a restored OS, grub complains
>
> Filesystem type is reiserfs, partition type 0x83

Is that the whole message?  I don't think that's a complaint.  You might 
not see it when it is working, but I'm fairly sure grub always prints that 
out as it tries to load the kernel you've specified.

As far as why it won't boot, it seems like either a bad FS or a bad kernel 
image.  You might want to boot from CD or into some other "safe mode" as 
check both of those.

Years ago, grub had issues booting from reiserfs if tail packing was on 
(which is it by default).  I'm fairly sure this is not the case with 
modern grub, but it might be something to investigate if your FS and 
kernel image are healthy.
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grub complains type mismatch and won't boot

[T o n g]

Hi, 

While trying to boot from a restored OS, grub complains 

 Filesystem type is reiserfs, partition type 0x83

and won't boot. 

What does it means? partition type 0x83 is Linux partition, and reiserfs 
is one of Linux file system. Why grub still complains? How can I fix it?

This is not the first time that I bumped into this. Please help.
Thanks.

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Re: not getting eney mail

[Kent West]

Alan Hutchinson wrote:
> Hi there I don't seam to be getting Anny mail in my GMAIL in box, and
> I am not quite to shour in which way to approach this problem,if you
> could pleas get back to me on this problem, I am using Debian Lenny
> beta 2 and I have some quite complex O/S problems that I need to
> remedy,and I cant do that without support,  best regards.

I assume you're using Gmail via a web-browser, and not via a POP/IMAP
client such as Thunderbird.

In such a case, if you're not getting any email in your GMail Inbox,
that has nothing to do with Debian (or any other operating system);
that's strictly a GMail issue. On the other hand, if you're using a
POP/IMAP client, then we might be able to help you. In that case, first
thing to do is to connect to your GMail Inbox using a web browser and
not your POP/IMAP client to make sure you see mail there. If not, you're
back to the situation where it has nothing to do with Debian; the
problem lies elsewhere.

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Re: not getting eney mail

[Ron Johnson]

On 10/21/08 23:07, Alan Hutchinson wrote:
Hi there I don't seam to be getting Anny mail in my GMAIL in box, and I 
am not quite to shour in which way to approach this problem,if you could 


Isn't that a Google problem that you'd have no matter what the OS or 
browser?


pleas get back to me on this problem, I am using Debian Lenny beta 2 and 
I have some quite complex O/S problems that I need to remedy,and I cant 
do that without support,  best regards.


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Re: Hard freezes with Sid/Experimental

[Ron Johnson]

On 10/21/08 20:47, Kelly Clowers wrote:

Hi all,

Over about two days, I have had three hard freezes with Sid/Experimental.
A few minutes ago, I saw one happen (the others where while I was away).
The computer instantly went from fully functional, no problems to frozen
solid. Nothing moving on screen, no response to ctrl-alt-backspace or
ctrl-alt-del. No response to ping or power button "soft off". The music
was replace by a fast cycling jittering/buzzing noise. After a hard reset,
everything is fine.

The most recent obvious candidate change is the most recent kernel update,
which I did shortly before the first freeze. This was the upgrade to
linux-image-2.6.26-1-686 version 2.6.26-9.

I see nothing in syslog - everything is normal and then BAM! - restart.


If possible, go to a separate computer and try to ssh in from there.


If anyone has any ideas or advice, that would be great.
Otherwise, I guess this a warning to be alert for problems.


Only useful if you specify your hardware, and which drivers are 
controlling them.


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Re: /dev/shm lost

[T o n g]

n Sat, 11 Oct 2008 20:55:55 +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote:

>> I used to have the tmpfs /dev/shm, but lost it due to recent update.
>> 
>> I'm wondering who is in charge of creating it -- so as to get it back.
> 
> /etc/init.d/mountdevsubfs.sh

hmm... I have that file and still don't have /dev/shm. 

Trying to find the reason myself, I found the real reason that I don't 
have /dev/shm:

 % domount tmpfs shmfs /dev/shm tmpfs -onosuid,nodev
 Files under mount point '/dev/shm' will be hidden. (warning).

Why is that? How can I let the script not hide files under /dev/shm?
(I tried to search the string "Files under mount point '/dev/shm' will be 
hidden", but didn't get much good hits.)

Thanks

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not getting eney mail

[Alan Hutchinson]

Hi there I don't seam to be getting Anny mail in my GMAIL in box, and I am
not quite to shour in which way to approach this problem,if you could pleas
get back to me on this problem, I am using Debian Lenny beta 2 and I have
some quite complex O/S problems that I need to remedy,and I cant do that
without support,  best regards.

Re: resolution change on startx -- :1

[Douglas A. Tutty]

On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 08:09:43PM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 10:42:34PM -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> > I have one video card and one monitor, running Etch amd64 with an
> > Etch-i386 chroot for flash.  I log in from the VT and run startx to get
> > X going.  I run icewm.
> > 
> > I have my usual username for regular use and web browsing with
> > javascript and flash turned off (actually, in amd64 there is no flash).
> 
> Apparently nspluginwrapper allows flash on amd64.
 
Last I checked with the maintainer, not for Etch amd64.  Yes for Lenny.

If it has been backported to Etch, Lenny is so close now that I can
wait.  The effort was in setting up the schroot; running it is automatic
now.

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Screen Lock & Locate Pointer

[Dale]

Hi all,

I am running Debian Testing with Gnome desktop enviroment
2.6.26-1-686 #1 SMP Thu Oct 9 15:18:09 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux

I not sure if this is a bug or not, but when I activate the the
'Locate Pointer' under System => Preferences => Mouse, which uses the
Control key to show the position of were the mouse pointer is on the
screen.  I have noticed that when this is activated the Lock Screen
function (ctrl + alt + l) no longer locks the screen.

The only reason I had to turn on the 'Locate Pointer' function is
cause when I was out in the daylight in the car GPS tracking for Open
Street Maps it was hard to find where the mouse was on the screen, and
no I was not driving and operating my laptop at the same time.

Is there anyway to fix this little problem besides changing the key
bindings for the 'screen lock' cause I have had a look into changing
the 'Locate Pointer' key binding but that seems to be hard coded some
where.

Regards
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Re: Keeping more up to date than Lenny, safely?

[Mark Allums]

Revisiting an old thread, for a correction.  Cutting and pasting other 
conversations:



Ron Johnson wrote:

OP: >>  but at the same time i read the release notes for the new
OP: >> Ubuntu beta, and its really nice. I *want* Gnome 2.24 (the auto


Unstable is at GNOME v2.22.5


Find a released distro that has GNOME 2.24.  (I'm not being flippant, 
but am totally serious.  Many people change distros on a regular basis.)



> On 10/21/08 09:05, Mark Allums wrote:

>> First, sorry for bugging you, I wanted your opinion.

[snip]

>> Basically, I think I was wrong about GNOME being in transition to
>> 2.24
>> from 2.22 in Debian.  I must have been thinking of something else at
>> the time.  (*I* have some elements of 2.23 on my system, but it's not
>> from Debian. I think.  Sigh.  "Senior moments" in my early forties.)
>>
>> Remember when I asked you to call me on it when I am out of my head
>> about something?  This may have been one of those times it needed
>> doing.  It could well have puzzled some folks, and certainly misled
>> the OP.

[snip]

> We can't reply to, nor know, everything.  For all I knew, Debian Sid
> *might* have been in the midst of a GNOME 2.24 transition.
>
> Although I'd be surprised, given the push to get Lenny out, which is
> why
> OOo3 is will sit in Experimental for a while.



Debian does *not* have 2.24 available as a Debian package.  I was wrong.

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Re: Desktop search engines

[machiner]

Hello,

> 
> I was looking for a simple desktop search engine, something that tracks
> metadata, etc. And since I'm not using KDE or GNOME, I would like
> something that does not depend on either.
> 
> After some analysis I came down to the following choices:
> 
>  1. Strigi
>   - small, lightweight, development still active, seems to be platform
> independent.
> 
>  2. beagle
>   - huge dependencies but widely used
> 
>  3. tracker
>   - no too many dependencies, seems like it is still developed but no
> new releases since a couple of months
> 
>  4. doodle
>   - smallest out of all
>   - not updated since 2007?
> 
> Right now, I'm leaning towards Strigi, doodle, tracker (in that
> order)...
> 
> I am trying them out now but any experiences or suggestions?
> 
> Also this machine is not too powerful (500MHz G4), so I guess something
> lightweight would be great.
> 
> Thanks,
> Amit
> 
> 


On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 12:23:25 -0700
Amit Uttamchandani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

As another posted, Recoll.  I've been using it for some time and it's damned 
fast,
can do some pretty amazing searches, and it doesn't take 3 days to index my 67GB
worth of crap.

Give Recoll a try, it's in the Lenny repos as well as all the "helpers", too.
(catdoc and such).


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Hard freezes with Sid/Experimental

[Kelly Clowers]

Hi all,

Over about two days, I have had three hard freezes with Sid/Experimental.
A few minutes ago, I saw one happen (the others where while I was away).
The computer instantly went from fully functional, no problems to frozen
solid. Nothing moving on screen, no response to ctrl-alt-backspace or
ctrl-alt-del. No response to ping or power button "soft off". The music
was replace by a fast cycling jittering/buzzing noise. After a hard reset,
everything is fine.

The most recent obvious candidate change is the most recent kernel update,
which I did shortly before the first freeze. This was the upgrade to
linux-image-2.6.26-1-686 version 2.6.26-9.

I see nothing in syslog - everything is normal and then BAM! - restart.

If anyone has any ideas or advice, that would be great.
Otherwise, I guess this a warning to be alert for problems.


Cheers,
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Re: friend cannot see me on msn

[H.S.]

Andreas Berglund wrote:
> Hi!
> I just added a friend of mine on msn. I can see her and I can send
> messages to her but when I'm online it looks to her like I'm offline and
> none of her messages reach me. She tried to send an invitation to me
> several times but none of them reached me. I have no idea where to even
> begin looking so any help would be very much appreciated.
> The client I'm using is kopete 0.12.3, I don't know what client my
> friend uses but if you need to know I can ask her and I'd be happy to
> provide any other information that might be relevant.
> 
> regards
> Andreas Berglund
> 
> 

Well, I would try to actually find a Windows computer, log in to my MSN
account, deal with all the pending invitations and then try logging in
to kopete. I have a strong hunch that this will give you the complete
list of contacts in kopete. I know this is not pretty, but I recall
having to do this to sort out similar problems.

Best of luck.

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virtual box version mismatch

[Dennis Wicks]

Greetings;

I have tried this on two different machines w/different kernels but
both lenny and after I do the "modprobe vboxdrv" as demanded by vbox
I get the message following and I have just installed latest vbox stuff.

The version of the VirtualBox kernel modules and the version
of VirtualBox application are not matching. You can correct
this by either installing the correct virtualbox-ose-modules
package (if available) through apt-get or by building it
manually with: module-assistant auto-install virtualbox-ose.
VBox status code: -1912 (VERR_VM_DRIVER_VERSION_MISMATCH).


Result Code:
0x80004005
Component:
Console
Interface:
IConsole {d5a1cbda-f5d7-4824-9afe-d640c94c7dcf}

I also tried the auto-install, which worked, but that doesn't solve the problem
either.

Any ideas what is wrong or how to get out of this?

TIA,
Dennis




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Re: friend cannot see me on msn

[Kelly Clowers]

On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 5:35 PM, Andreas Berglund
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Paul Johnson wrote:
>>
>> Andreas Berglund wrote:
>>>
>>> I just added a friend of mine on msn. I can see her and I can send
>>> messages to her but when I'm online it looks to her like I'm offline
>>> and none of her messages reach me. She tried to send an invitation to
>>> me several times but none of them reached me. I have no idea where to
>>> even begin looking so any help would be very much appreciated.
>>> The client I'm using is kopete 0.12.3, I don't know what client my
>>> friend uses but if you need to know I can ask her and I'd be happy to
>>> provide any other information that might be relevant.
>>
>> MSN was obsoleted years ago when XMPP became the standard for IM.  Have
>> you considered joining us in this millennium and dropping the
>> proprietary IM systems entirely?
>
>
> Actually I haven't considered that ;-), at least not yet. I'm not a frequent
>  user of IM so I have not kept up with developments in the field for a long
> time. Would that allow me to keep in touch with people on MSN cause there's
> no way I'm gonna be able to get my friend to switch?

XMPP has server-side transports that act as gateways to MSN, AIM, etc.

These work for basic messaging, but I suspect you will be out of luck if
you like to use voice or video. I don't know if other things like "x is typing"
messages, current music, etc are supported on transports.


Cheers,
Kelly Clowers


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You are a broken record (was Re: friend cannot see me on msn)

[Ron Johnson]

On 10/21/08 12:08, Paul Johnson wrote:

Andreas Berglund wrote:

I just added a friend of mine on msn. I can see her and I can send
messages to her but when I'm online it looks to her like I'm offline
and none of her messages reach me. She tried to send an invitation to
me several times but none of them reached me. I have no idea where to
even begin looking so any help would be very much appreciated.
The client I'm using is kopete 0.12.3, I don't know what client my
friend uses but if you need to know I can ask her and I'd be happy to
provide any other information that might be relevant.

>>

MSN was obsoleted years ago when XMPP became the standard for IM.  Have
you considered joining us in this millennium and dropping the
proprietary IM systems entirely?


Only if he wants to give up his non-tech friends that wouldn't know 
an XMPP from an STD, and don't really give a rat's arse.


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Re: friend cannot see me on msn

[Andreas Berglund]

Paul Johnson wrote:

Andreas Berglund wrote:

I just added a friend of mine on msn. I can see her and I can send
messages to her but when I'm online it looks to her like I'm offline
and none of her messages reach me. She tried to send an invitation to
me several times but none of them reached me. I have no idea where to
even begin looking so any help would be very much appreciated.
The client I'm using is kopete 0.12.3, I don't know what client my
friend uses but if you need to know I can ask her and I'd be happy to
provide any other information that might be relevant.

MSN was obsoleted years ago when XMPP became the standard for IM.  Have
you considered joining us in this millennium and dropping the
proprietary IM systems entirely?



Actually I haven't considered that ;-), at least not yet. I'm not a 
frequent  user of IM so I have not kept up with developments in the 
field for a long time. Would that allow me to keep in touch with people 
on MSN cause there's no way I'm gonna be able to get my friend to switch?



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Alternating between keymaps

[Umarzuki Mochlis]

How do I alternate between keymaps with a keystroke? Please guide me on
this.

For example, I want to alternate between arabic and englist US by pressing
Ctrl + Shift +z.

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Re: Docx and OpenOffice in Lenny

[Paul Johnson]

Zhan wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 01:34:04 +0800, Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Dotan Cohen wrote:
> Even users of MSO <2007 will be unable to open .docx files.
>
 Only if they don't install a plugin. And maybe this plugin is, or will
 be, automatically installed by MS online update.


>>>
>>> And what about users who are not running as admin and don't have admin
>>> rights on the box?
>>>
>> In Windows Vista, they finally got around to implementing something like
>> gsudo/ksudo for Windows.
>>
>
> yea, just that I used to turn that annoying feature off...

Never mind running as Administrator all the time is just as retarded in
Windows as running as root is in Linux, for essentially the same reasons.




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Re: cannot access www via a proxy while in a VPN

[Alex Samad]

On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 11:37:50PM +0200, Steve S wrote:
> Hi
> 
> I'm starting a VPN with the network of my university via vpnc. The VPN itself
> seems OK. I can ssh directly into machines at the university and ifconfig
> says
> 
> [...]
> tun0  Link encap:UNSPEC  HWaddr 
> 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00  
>   inet addr:139.20.208.209  P-t-P:139.20.208.209  Mask:255.255.255.255
>   UP POINTOPOINT RUNNING NOARP MULTICAST  MTU:1412  Metric:1
>   RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
>   TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
>   collisions:0 txqueuelen:500 
>   RX bytes:0 (0.0 B)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 B)
> [...]
> 
> Now, while in the VPN, to go from my machine to the net (I need a
> university IP to access certain services), I need to go over their www
> proxy. I entered the proxy in iceweasel, but it's just "Waiting for
> www.google.com ...". No connection either with lynx/w3m
> 
> HTTP_PROXY="http://www.example.com:80"; w3m www.google.com
> -> www.google.com contacted. Waiting for reply...
> http_proxy="http://www.example.com:80"; lynx www.google.com
> -> HTTP request sent; waiting for response.
> 
> I know that it worked with an older system (lenny) and it works now with
> Window$, the Cisco VPN client and Firefox 3, so I figure that it's
> definitely my current installation. I'm using Gnome, so I also tried
> with the (new) NetworkManager deactivated, but to no avail.  My machine
> is connected to a hardware router, but with no special firewall settings
> there. Also, I didn't change the router's config for a long time, so
> it's setup is identical to the one I used with my older install.
> 
> I'm running testing, 2.6.24-1-486 (Debian 2.6.24-7), 
> vpnc 0.5.1r334-1 .
> 
> I'll appreciate any tips on how to test this setup further.

try telnet to test, for example if the uni's proxy is bla.uni.com:3128
try

telnet bla.uni.com 3128

and then type 
GET /

you should get a response back from the proxy which should help

or try

http_proxy=http://bla.uni.com:3128/ wget -v -d google.com

it should show you debugging info





> 
> TIA!
> 
> best,
> steve
> 
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cannot access www via a proxy while in a VPN

[Steve S]

Hi

I'm starting a VPN with the network of my university via vpnc. The VPN itself
seems OK. I can ssh directly into machines at the university and ifconfig
says

[...]
tun0  Link encap:UNSPEC  HWaddr 
00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00  
  inet addr:139.20.208.209  P-t-P:139.20.208.209  Mask:255.255.255.255
  UP POINTOPOINT RUNNING NOARP MULTICAST  MTU:1412  Metric:1
  RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:500 
  RX bytes:0 (0.0 B)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 B)
[...]

Now, while in the VPN, to go from my machine to the net (I need a
university IP to access certain services), I need to go over their www
proxy. I entered the proxy in iceweasel, but it's just "Waiting for
www.google.com ...". No connection either with lynx/w3m

HTTP_PROXY="http://www.example.com:80"; w3m www.google.com
-> www.google.com contacted. Waiting for reply...
http_proxy="http://www.example.com:80"; lynx www.google.com
-> HTTP request sent; waiting for response.

I know that it worked with an older system (lenny) and it works now with
Window$, the Cisco VPN client and Firefox 3, so I figure that it's
definitely my current installation. I'm using Gnome, so I also tried
with the (new) NetworkManager deactivated, but to no avail.  My machine
is connected to a hardware router, but with no special firewall settings
there. Also, I didn't change the router's config for a long time, so
it's setup is identical to the one I used with my older install.

I'm running testing, 2.6.24-1-486 (Debian 2.6.24-7), 
vpnc 0.5.1r334-1 .

I'll appreciate any tips on how to test this setup further.

TIA!

best,
steve


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Re: USB ownership

[Emanoil Kotsev]

--- On Tue, 10/21/08, Paul Cartwright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: Paul Cartwright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: USB ownership
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Date: Tuesday, October 21, 2008, 12:48 PM
> Emanoil Kotsev wrote:
> > Paul Cartwright wrote:
> > 
> >> Andrei Popescu wrote:
> >>> On Mon,20.Oct.08, 17:06:25, Emanoil Kotsev
> wrote:
> >>>  
>  I suggested to use device by uuid
> 
> 
> /dev/disk/by-uuid/3fca395b-d75d-44ab-98be-9ec05b2e45fd
>  /media/usb_2G_part3 auto
> users,noauto,atime,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 0
> >>>  
> >>> You can shorten this a bit:
> >>>
> >>> UUID=3fca
> >>>
> >>> It's not much, but given that the UUID is
> already very long...
> >>>  
> >> here is my /etc/fstab entry ( that works)
> >> UUID=686C-7E81 /media/usb_DAWGS vfat
> >> users,atime,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid,noauto  0 0
> >>
> >> ( that was all one line)
> >>
> >> in the /media folder is a file called .hal-mtab
> >> I was trying to add an entry in there for this, so
> my wife could unmount
> >> it, but I was not successful. The fstab entry
> still mounts it:
> >>
> >> drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 4096 2008-08-16 15:14
> usb_DAWGS
> >>
> >>
> > 
> > For me the UUID= entry did not work
> > 
> > The /dev/disk/by-uuid work
> > 
> > Paul, the .hal entries are system entries they do not
> have to be set in
> > fstab
> > 
> I tried adding that /dev/disk/by-uuid entry to .hal-mtab ,
> but no change.
> I think the REAL way to do it would be with a
> /etc/udev/rules.d entry,
> but after looking at man udev and the 50.udev-rules file,
> it is way over
> my head. I give up. I'll just have to tell her to
> switch to my user to
> add entries, since I seem to own everything inserted.
> 
> 

I don't think you have to mess up with the .hal entries

the correct place would be /etc/fstab

you need the /dev/disk  entry in the fstab file

I've tried it as I said it didn't work with UUID but with this entry in the 
/etc/fstab file all was fine

regards



regards


  


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Re: Docx and OpenOffice in Lenny

[Dotan Cohen]

2008/10/21 Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> My solution, when possible, is to write to the body from where the
>> .docx comes from and request that they resend in PDF. Even users of
>> MSO <2007 will be unable to open .docx files.
>>
> Though doesn't the latest version of Office also capable of generating
> the considerably more universal .odt or .doc formats as well?  Why not
> just have the guy you're collaborating with send you something that
> isn't a result of Microsoft missing the point of what XML is about?
>

Why not open document: was not possible in MSO 2007 < SP1, and I am
still not sure how it will look in OOo.

Why not .doc: I have been rejecting those for years on the same basis
that I now reject .docx!

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Re: libz.so.1 conflict/compatibility issue

[Ken Teague]

Florian Kulzer wrote:
> [ snip: the config file sets and exports LD_LIBRARY_PATH and other
>   environmental variables. ]
> 
> Have you put the command to source this config file into .bashrc or
> another startup file? 

Yes, I had it in .bashrc and, after removing it, magic began happening
and things work great! :-)

> I would remove that and use a simple wrapper like this:
> 
> #!/bin/sh
> source /usr/local/bin/acusim/LINUX64/V1.7e/script/.acusim-sh
> /path/to/the/command/that/starts/acuSim
> 
> Put the above three lines into a file that you call, for example,
> my-acusim. (Replace the last line with the correct command to start the
> application, of course.) Make this file executable and put it into
> /usr/local/bin (system wide) or ~/bin (only for your user). Then you can
> use the command "my-acusim" to start the programm. It will run with the
> correct environmental variables while the rest of your system should
> remain unaffected.

Awesome!  However, acuSim has a suite of binaries (e.g. acuSim,
acuSolve, acuTrace, etc.) and each of these binaries accept different
args.  All of the binaries are under
/usr/local/bin/acusim/LINUX64/V1.7e/bin.  How can I adapt the script to
handle the various binaries?  Will I have to add a bunch of case
statements?... or is there an easier way?

Regards,
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Re: Docx and OpenOffice in Lenny

[Zhan]

On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 01:34:04 +0800, Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Dotan Cohen wrote:

Even users of MSO <2007 will be unable to open .docx files.


Only if they don't install a plugin. And maybe this plugin is, or will
be, automatically installed by MS online update.




And what about users who are not running as admin and don't have admin
rights on the box?


In Windows Vista, they finally got around to implementing something like
gsudo/ksudo for Windows.



yea, just that I used to turn that annoying feature off...



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Re: Docx and OpenOffice in Lenny

[Paul Johnson]

Dotan Cohen wrote:
>>> Even users of MSO <2007 will be unable to open .docx files.
>>>   
>> Only if they don't install a plugin. And maybe this plugin is, or will
>> be, automatically installed by MS online update.
>>
>> 
>
> And what about users who are not running as admin and don't have admin
> rights on the box?
>   
In Windows Vista, they finally got around to implementing something like
gsudo/ksudo for Windows.




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Re: Docx and OpenOffice in Lenny

[Paul Johnson]

Dotan Cohen wrote:
> 2008/10/20 Paul van der Vlis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>   
>> Hello,
>>
>> Is there a way to see docx documents in OpenOffice in Lenny?
>>
>> I know there is this:
>> http://katana.oooninja.com/w/odf-converter-integrator
>>
>> But it seems not to be in Debian. Is there an alternative?
>>
>> 
>
> OpenOffice 3 is your best bet, though if there is complex formatting
> then even that is not very good.
>
> My solution, when possible, is to write to the body from where the
> .docx comes from and request that they resend in PDF. Even users of
> MSO <2007 will be unable to open .docx files.
>   
Though doesn't the latest version of Office also capable of generating
the considerably more universal .odt or .doc formats as well?  Why not
just have the guy you're collaborating with send you something that
isn't a result of Microsoft missing the point of what XML is about?




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Re: Desktop search engines

[Paul Johnson]

Amit Uttamchandani wrote:
> I am trying them out now but any experiences or suggestions?
>   
Google Desktop is desktop environment agnostic enough to work outside
Linux, too.  Though it's non-free, so not a part of Debian.  However,
it's at least free-beer, and we all use Google...



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Re: security question

[Ron Johnson]

On 10/21/08 12:10, Paul Johnson wrote:

Bogdan wrote:

This is stupid! Any decent web developer would make his app work at
least with IE,  Firefox and Safari ( my opinion )! 


That's stupid.  Nobody should ever be coding with only specific browsers
in mind.  Get it to validate on http://validator.w3.org/  Then if it
doesn't work, it's a craptastical browser problem beyond their control,
not a standards compliance issue within their control.


Of course it's stupid.  Why are you surprised that corporate drones 
do stupid things?


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Re: How to mirror a server installation?

[Jeff D]

On Tue, 21 Oct 2008, Arnau wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Jeff D wrote:
> > On Tue, 21 Oct 2008, Arnau wrote:
> >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > >  I'd like to mirror all the packages installed in a production server with
> > > the
> > > same versions. The idea is to have a enviroment test the upgrades before
> > > apply
> > > those upgrades to the real production server. What is the best way to do
> > > this?
> > >
> > > Thank you very much
> > >
> >
> > You can do something like this:
> > on the current machine:
> > sudo dpkg --get-selections > server.selections
> >
> > then copy the server.selections file to your test machine and run:
> > sudo apt-get update
> > sudo dpkg --set-selections < server.selections
> > sudo apt-get dselect-upgrde
> >
> >
> > That will install all packages that are on your current server on your
> > test server.
>
>   I like this option more than the one proposed François. Will this install
> the same versions I in the production server?
>
>
> Thanks
>

Assuming of course that you have the same sources listed in
/etc/apt/sources.list , in regards to stable/testing/sid.  So, if both
machines are etch, then all packages will be the same version.  But, this
will only upgrade packages installed through apt/aptitude.  Any packages
that have been installed by hand wont be upgraded.

Jeff

Re: security question

[Dotan Cohen]

2008/10/18 Carl Fink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> One other possibility: install virtualbox-ose, and run an occasional Windows
> session inside Debian when you need to bank.  That's what I do with some
> specific software I need for my job.
>

What software is that, Carl?

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Re: libz.so.1 conflict/compatibility issue

[Florian Kulzer]

On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 16:24:41 -0700, Ken Teague wrote:
> Florian Kulzer wrote:
> >> >> libz.so.1, of course, is a symlink to the actual library.  For my
> >> >> Debian Lenny box, it points to libz.so.1.2.3.3 and for acusim, it
> >> >> points to libz.so.1.2.3.
> > >
> > > This does not explain what you are doing at the moment. Do you have a
> > > symlink that you change according to which application you run next?
> 
> I'm hoping that, in the end, I do not need to modify symlinks to shared
> libraries and all programs run without any modification.
> 
> I hope I don't confuse anyone in this reply, as I've combined both of
> Florian's e-mail's into this single one for digestion.
> 
> > > Something that I missed previously: Didn't you say this is a Lenny
> > > system?
> 
> Yep, plain on Lenny
> 
> > > Programs in /usr/X11R6/bin/ should not exist anymore from Etch
> > > onwards.
> 
> Appears you're correct:
> host:/etc/ld.so.conf.d# ls -l /usr/X11R6/bin
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 6 2008-10-09 11:12 /usr/X11R6/bin -> ../bin

Ah, my mistake: I forgot that this legacy symlink still exists.
Everything is alright.

[...]

> Looks like it:
> host:/etc/ld.so.conf.d# env |grep LD_
> LD_LIBRARY_PATH=:/usr/local/bin/acusim/LINUX64/V1.7e/bin:/usr/local/bin/acusim/LINUX64/V1.7e/base/lib:/usr/local/bin/acusim/LINUX64/V1.7e/ODB_6.7/lib

[...]

> > > Then I would write a wrapper script to start up acuSim after setting
> > > LD_LIBRARY_PATH and maybe LD_PRELOAD so that acuSim finds its own
> > > preferred versions of libraries before it looks in the system folders
> > > (see "man ld.so").
> 
> Can you please expand on this and possibly provide an example?  Thanks
> so much for your assistance. :-)
> 
> acuSim does have me sourcing a config file:

[ snip: the config file sets and exports LD_LIBRARY_PATH and other
  environmental variables. ]

Have you put the command to source this config file into .bashrc or
another startup file? I would remove that and use a simple wrapper like
this:

#!/bin/sh
source /usr/local/bin/acusim/LINUX64/V1.7e/script/.acusim-sh
/path/to/the/command/that/starts/acuSim

Put the above three lines into a file that you call, for example,
my-acusim. (Replace the last line with the correct command to start the
application, of course.) Make this file executable and put it into
/usr/local/bin (system wide) or ~/bin (only for your user). Then you can
use the command "my-acusim" to start the programm. It will run with the
correct environmental variables while the rest of your system should
remain unaffected.

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Re: security question

[Dotan Cohen]

2008/10/18 Bogdan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Hey,
>
> Although I don't like it, the bank i work with only offers Internet Banking
> that works only under Internet Explorer. So, unfortunately, if I want to
> check out my account I see myself obliged to boot Windows :(. I know that IE
> can be installed through wine but no one  seems to guaranty safety... Would
> IE installed on my Debian be less safe than the one running in it's native
> environment? If yes, why would that be so?
>

Switch banks. I did for that reason and that reason only.

The bank is forcing you to use an insecure browser. Would you not
switch banks if they forced you to make deposits in a flimsy tin
lockbox outside their building? You cannot trust IE, and you should
not under any circumstances use IE for internet banking, paypal, ebay,
or any other financial transaction. So far as you are  concerned, your
bank does not offer internet banking.

I am not joking, and I am not exaggerating.

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Re: security question

[Paul Johnson]

Bogdan wrote:
> This is stupid! Any decent web developer would make his app work at
> least with IE,  Firefox and Safari ( my opinion )! 

That's stupid.  Nobody should ever be coding with only specific browsers
in mind.  Get it to validate on http://validator.w3.org/  Then if it
doesn't work, it's a craptastical browser problem beyond their control,
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Re: friend cannot see me on msn

[Paul Johnson]

Andreas Berglund wrote:
> I just added a friend of mine on msn. I can see her and I can send
> messages to her but when I'm online it looks to her like I'm offline
> and none of her messages reach me. She tried to send an invitation to
> me several times but none of them reached me. I have no idea where to
> even begin looking so any help would be very much appreciated.
> The client I'm using is kopete 0.12.3, I don't know what client my
> friend uses but if you need to know I can ask her and I'd be happy to
> provide any other information that might be relevant.
MSN was obsoleted years ago when XMPP became the standard for IM.  Have
you considered joining us in this millennium and dropping the
proprietary IM systems entirely?




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Re: usb device file

[Andrei Popescu]

On Mon,20.Oct.08, 23:29:19, Christopher Howard wrote:
> Chris Bannister wrote:

>> I noticed your sig did not render correctly in my mailer. The 
>> deliniter
>> for a sig is -- not --- Compare yours with mine
>> below.
  
> I'm sorry, but in Icedove (a.k.a., Thunderbird), I can only define the 
> text of the signature, not how it is implemented (as far as I know).  
> Icedove generates the --- text.  Next time I have the need, I 
> will probably switch to claws-mail.  But it is not at the moment 
> convenient for me to switch mail clients for such a small reason.

It's ok now.

> As a point of curiosity, what mailer are you using, and why does it 
> distinguish between the signature and the text?

Don't know about Chris, but mutt for example displays the sig with a 
different colour, which makes it easier to ignore if I'm not in the mood 
of reading sigs ;)

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Re: How to mirror a server installation?

[Arnau]

Hi all,

Jeff D wrote:

On Tue, 21 Oct 2008, Arnau wrote:


Hi all,

 I'd like to mirror all the packages installed in a production server with the
same versions. The idea is to have a enviroment test the upgrades before apply
those upgrades to the real production server. What is the best way to do this?

Thank you very much



You can do something like this:
on the current machine:
sudo dpkg --get-selections > server.selections

then copy the server.selections file to your test machine and run:
sudo apt-get update
sudo dpkg --set-selections < server.selections
sudo apt-get dselect-upgrde


That will install all packages that are on your current server on your
test server.


  I like this option more than the one proposed François. Will this 
install the same versions I in the production server?



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Re: Pinnacle dc10 on Debian Lenny (Kernel 2.6.26-1-686)

[Florian Kulzer]

On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 10:37:31 -0200, Ignacio Mondino wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I'd Like to know if somebody had a pinnacle dc10 video capture
> board working on Debian Lenny.
> 
> The thing is that the card is recognized on boot and the ZR36060
> kernel module is correctly loaded but it seems that the device /dev/video0
> is not present on the system.
> 
> Is there some reference about the options I can pass to the kernel module?
> Google isn't really helpful in this case. :P

According to "/sbin/modinfo zr36060", there are two parameters:

low_bitrate: Buz compatibility option, halves bitrate (bool)
debug:   Debug level (0-4) (int)

I would try this (as root):

modprobe -r zr36060
modprobe -v zr36060 debug=4
dmesg | grep zr36

and hope that it turns up a clue.

(These are just some general troubleshooting suggestions; I don't know
 this card.)

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Re: how to separate Debian list emails from my other emails ...

[Ron Johnson]

On 10/21/08 10:09, David Bernier wrote:

Dear Debian users,

I use the Icedove mail-client for my email.  Icedove works like Thunderbird.
I continue my subscription so that I can send mail to the list.

With the high volume on this list, it's necessary for me to sift through
lots
of headers to separate the List messages from my other email.

I think the List messages also  go to Usenet.  Any help with ideas
in managing all these emails (List + others) would be appreciated.


In Tools->"Message Filters", create a filter on:
List-Id contains debian-user

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Re: How to mirror a server installation?

[Jeff D]

On Tue, 21 Oct 2008, Arnau wrote:

> Hi all,
>
>  I'd like to mirror all the packages installed in a production server with the
> same versions. The idea is to have a enviroment test the upgrades before apply
> those upgrades to the real production server. What is the best way to do this?
>
> Thank you very much
>

You can do something like this:
on the current machine:
sudo dpkg --get-selections > server.selections

then copy the server.selections file to your test machine and run:
sudo apt-get update
sudo dpkg --set-selections < server.selections
sudo apt-get dselect-upgrde


That will install all packages that are on your current server on your
test server.

hth,
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Re: how to separate Debian list emails from my other emails ...

[Mehdi Dogguy]

David Bernier wrote:
> 
> Any help with ideas
> in managing all these emails (List + others) would be appreciated.
> 

Using procmail, it can be done this way:

:0:
* ^X-Mailing-List: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* ^X-Mailing-List: http://www.pps.jussieu.fr/~dogguy
Tel.: (+33).1.44.27.28.38


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Re: how to separate Debian list emails from my other emails ...

[charlie derr]

David Bernier wrote:

Dear Debian users,

I use the Icedove mail-client for my email.  Icedove works like Thunderbird.
I continue my subscription so that I can send mail to the list.

With the high volume on this list, it's necessary for me to sift through
lots
of headers to separate the List messages from my other email.

I think the List messages also  go to Usenet.  Any help with ideas
in managing all these emails (List + others) would be appreciated.

David Bernier





The obvious solution is to set up a filter in icedove to automatically place messages in a "debian" folder.  Write a rule (or 
rules) based on whatever header you'd like.


good luck,
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Re: how to separate Debian list emails from my other emails ...

[Paul Cartwright]

David Bernier wrote:
> Dear Debian users,
> 
> I use the Icedove mail-client for my email.  Icedove works like Thunderbird.
> I continue my subscription so that I can send mail to the list.
> 
> With the high volume on this list, it's necessary for me to sift through
> lots
> of headers to separate the List messages from my other email.
> 
the way I make filters in Icedove is:
right-click either the FROM address, or the TO address if it is sent to
a list ( You might have to make an additional entry in the filter if
someone CCs the list).
select Create Filter from Message
it will bring up a new window with Filter Rules as a header.
the top window shows the From address IS debian-user@lists.debian.org

below that are actions. I normally select:
Move Message TO:
select that drop-down and select the folder I want it sent to.

on the top part where you have the FROM, if you click the "+" symbol it
will add another line where you can add CC .. or Subject Contains, or
and you can click the radio buttons for Match ANY, or match ALL of the
conditions.
click OK
the click on that filter ( you should have given it a NAME..) and click
the RUN NOW box, to try it out. If it worked your email will now be
inthe folder you specified. If not, click EDIT and see if you can change
something.. Sometimes it starts with FROM when you really wanted it to
be TO.


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Re: how to separate Debian list emails from my other emails ...

[David Bernier]

Dear Aioanei Rares,


Aioanei Rares wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 6:09 PM, David Bernier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>
>   
>> Dear Debian users,
>>
>> I use the Icedove mail-client for my email.  Icedove works like
>> Thunderbird.
>> I continue my subscription so that I can send mail to the list.
>>
>> With the high volume on this list, it's necessary for me to sift through
>> lots
>> of headers to separate the List messages from my other email.
>>
>> I think the List messages also  go to Usenet.  Any help with ideas
>> in managing all these emails (List + others) would be appreciated.
>>
>> David Bernier
>>
>>
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>>
>> 
> Since i'm subscribed to more than one list on debian-*, all i did was create
> a new email account, since i expected lots of mail traffic, and that's it.
> Hope it helps. :)
>
>   
I have now created a filter based on the "To:"  header field, with a rule
that if [EMAIL PROTECTED] is the thing in the "to:" field,
then put the email in a new local folder I call:  "DebianUserList".

So I should soon see if this works.

Thanks for all suggestions,

David Bernier



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Re: how to separate Debian list emails from my other emails ...

[Magnus Therning]

On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 4:09 PM, David Bernier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dear Debian users,
>
> I use the Icedove mail-client for my email.  Icedove works like Thunderbird.
> I continue my subscription so that I can send mail to the list.
>
> With the high volume on this list, it's necessary for me to sift through
> lots
> of headers to separate the List messages from my other email.
>
> I think the List messages also  go to Usenet.  Any help with ideas
> in managing all these emails (List + others) would be appreciated.

I use the mailing list header to filter emails.  I think
Icedove/Thunderbird can do filtering on it's own, otherwise there are
numerous external mail filters (e.g. procmail).

/M

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Re: how to separate Debian list emails from my other emails ...

[Adrian Chapela]

David Bernier escribió:

Dear Debian users,

I use the Icedove mail-client for my email.  Icedove works like Thunderbird.
I continue my subscription so that I can send mail to the list.

With the high volume on this list, it's necessary for me to sift through
lots
of headers to separate the List messages from my other email.

I think the List messages also  go to Usenet.  Any help with ideas
in managing all these emails (List + others) would be appreciated.
  
You could use a filter with the field to from the mail which contain 
"debian-user@lists.debian.org"



David Bernier


  



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Inode issue

[Shaun Martin]

Hi All,

Ok so my filesystem ran out of inodes :(
Is their away to increase the inodes without reformatting?
I saw some articles refering to an app called maxfiles but has not been able
to find it for debian.
Any help is greatly appreciated.

I have included some information you might want.

akaza-fs:~# df -h
FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/sda1 9.2G  5.3G  3.5G  61% /

akaza-fs:~# df -i
FilesystemInodes   IUsed   IFree IUse% Mounted on
/dev/sda11221600 1221485 115  100% /

akaza-fs:~# tune2fs -l /dev/sda1
tune2fs 1.40-WIP (14-Nov-2006)
Filesystem volume name:   
Last mounted on:  
Filesystem UUID:  7f81c153-d809-4f18-9885-402c577e1989
Filesystem magic number:  0xEF53
Filesystem revision #:1 (dynamic)
Filesystem features:  has_journal resize_inode dir_index filetype
needs_recovery sparse_super large_file
Filesystem flags: signed directory hash
Default mount options:(none)
Filesystem state: clean
Errors behavior:  Continue
Filesystem OS type:   Linux
Inode count:  1221600
Block count:  2441872
Reserved block count: 122093
Free blocks:  1016746
Free inodes:  9
First block:  0
Block size:   4096
Fragment size:4096
Reserved GDT blocks:  596
Blocks per group: 32768
Fragments per group:  32768
Inodes per group: 16288
Inode blocks per group:   509
Filesystem created:   Mon Jul 14 10:31:57 2008
Last mount time:  Tue Oct 21 09:50:29 2008
Last write time:  Tue Oct 21 09:50:29 2008
Mount count:  1
Maximum mount count:  28
Last checked: Tue Oct 21 09:43:40 2008
Check interval:   15552000 (6 months)
Next check after: Sun Apr 19 09:43:40 2009
Reserved blocks uid:  0 (user root)
Reserved blocks gid:  0 (group root)
First inode:  11
Inode size:   128
Journal inode:8
Default directory hash:   tea
Directory Hash Seed:  28e902f9-2828-4932-a6e4-77360598d93f
Journal backup:   inode blocks

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how to separate Debian list emails from my other emails ...

[David Bernier]

Dear Debian users,

I use the Icedove mail-client for my email.  Icedove works like Thunderbird.
I continue my subscription so that I can send mail to the list.

With the high volume on this list, it's necessary for me to sift through
lots
of headers to separate the List messages from my other email.

I think the List messages also  go to Usenet.  Any help with ideas
in managing all these emails (List + others) would be appreciated.

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Inode issue

[Shaun Martin]

Hi All,

Ok so my filesystem ran out of inodes :(
Is their away to increase the inodes without reformatting?
I saw some articles referring to an app called maxfiles but has not been
able to find it for debian.
Any help is greatly appreciated.

I have included some information you might want.

akaza-fs:~# df -h
FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/sda1 9.2G  5.3G  3.5G  61% /

akaza-fs:~# df -i
FilesystemInodes   IUsed   IFree IUse% Mounted on
/dev/sda11221600 1221485 115  100% /

akaza-fs:~# tune2fs -l /dev/sda1
tune2fs 1.40-WIP (14-Nov-2006)
Filesystem volume name:   
Last mounted on:  
Filesystem UUID:  7f81c153-d809-4f18-9885-402c577e1989
Filesystem magic number:  0xEF53
Filesystem revision #:1 (dynamic)
Filesystem features:  has_journal resize_inode dir_index filetype
needs_recovery sparse_super large_file
Filesystem flags: signed directory hash
Default mount options:(none)
Filesystem state: clean
Errors behavior:  Continue
Filesystem OS type:   Linux
Inode count:  1221600
Block count:  2441872
Reserved block count: 122093
Free blocks:  1016746
Free inodes:  9
First block:  0
Block size:   4096
Fragment size:4096
Reserved GDT blocks:  596
Blocks per group: 32768
Fragments per group:  32768
Inodes per group: 16288
Inode blocks per group:   509
Filesystem created:   Mon Jul 14 10:31:57 2008
Last mount time:  Tue Oct 21 09:50:29 2008
Last write time:  Tue Oct 21 09:50:29 2008
Mount count:  1
Maximum mount count:  28
Last checked: Tue Oct 21 09:43:40 2008
Check interval:   15552000 (6 months)
Next check after: Sun Apr 19 09:43:40 2009
Reserved blocks uid:  0 (user root)
Reserved blocks gid:  0 (group root)
First inode:  11
Inode size:   128
Journal inode:8
Default directory hash:   tea
Directory Hash Seed:  28e902f9-2828-4932-a6e4-77360598d93f
Journal backup:   inode blocks


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Re: OOo 3.0 still not ready?? (was Re: Non-Debian Provided Packages)

[Paul Cartwright]

Ron Johnson wrote: b
>> And you won't be able to install it on pure lenny, needs one lib from
>> sid. The other one (liblucene2-java) can be omitted when you don't
>> install the metapackage (openoffice.org) or don't need search in the
>> help...
>>
>> At some time there will be a lenny-backport, though.
> 
> Or he could install directly from www.openoffice.org or go-oo.
> 

well, I'd rather do it through aptitude, so It would show and update
regularly.. When I tried to add it to my Ubuntu laptop, all the .debs
installed, but it balked at the menus, saying there was a conflict, and
I couldn't figure out how to resolve the conflict.

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Re: OOo 3.0 still not ready?? (was Re: Non-Debian Provided Packages)

[Ron Johnson]

On 10/21/08 05:53, Rene Engelhard wrote:

Hi,

Paul Cartwright wrote:

so on my Lenny system, if I run this command:

apt-get install -t experimental openoffice.org

will it overwrite my existing 2.4 installation, or will I have 2 OOs
available ?


think a bit... Same package names -> overwrites 2.4.

And you won't be able to install it on pure lenny, needs one lib from
sid. The other one (liblucene2-java) can be omitted when you don't
install the metapackage (openoffice.org) or don't need search in the
help...

At some time there will be a lenny-backport, though.


Or he could install directly from www.openoffice.org or go-oo.

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Re: OOo 3.0 still not ready?? (was Re: Non-Debian Provided Packages)

[Ron Johnson]

On 10/21/08 03:57, Rene Engelhard wrote:

Hi,

Tzafrir Cohen wrote:

On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 12:06:38PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:

You say that OOo3 is "Experimental 3.0.0-3", but evidence shows that the 
ftp.debian.org experimental branch is still at 3.0.0~rc4-1.

$ rmadison openoffice.org
openoffice.org | 1.1.3-9sarge8 | oldstable | source, all

[snip]

openoffice.org | 1:3.0.0~rc4-1 |  experimental | i386
openoffice.org |  1:3.0.0-3 |  experimental | source, amd64

So just upgrade from i386 to amd64, and your're done :-)


In the meanwhile it's available for i386 now :)

$ rmadison -s experimental openoffice.org-core
openoffice.org-core |  1:3.0.0-3 |  experimental | amd64, i386, powerpc, sparc

Grüße/Regards,

René
(the maintainer, and sorry for the hassle, -1 and -2 failed to build
on the i386 buildd)


No problem.  We all appreciate you tireless work wrangling this huge 
blob.


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kcontrol is the answer

[Hugo Vanwoerkom]

Hi,

2 years ago I asked why I had no sound in Konsole, not running KDE but FVWM:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2006/11/msg02898.html

Nobody answered.

The answer is: install kcontrol and configure the sound to alsa. Now I 
have the system bell and KDE sounds in Konsole.


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Re: How to mirror a server installation?

[François Cerbelle]

Le Mar 21 octobre 2008 11:41, Arnau a écrit :
>   I'd like to mirror all the packages installed in a production server
> with the same versions. The idea is to have a enviroment test the
> upgrades before apply those upgrades to the real production server. What
> is the best way to do this?

Hi,

You certainly already have a SSH server running on the production server.
If you can have a root ssh connexion (without password, only with key
challenge), I can see two solutions by booting the test server with a
LiveCD :
- you can reformat the test server's filesystem, mount it and run the
following command :
  ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] "tar cf - /" | (cd TestServerFSMountPoint ;
tar xvf - )
- you can only update the test server's FS with rsync, you mount it and
run something like :
  rsync -av --delete [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/ /TestServerFSMountPoint

Don't forget to update the files in /etc. You have to change all the IP
and host occurences :
- grep -r www.xxx.yyy.zzz /etc
- grep -r productionserver /etc

You can certainly automate the changes with the following commands :
- grep -r www.xxx.yyy.zzz /etc | cut -d: -f1 | xargs sed -i
's/www.xxx.yyy.zzz/aaa.bbb.ccc.ddd/g'
- grep -r productionserver /etc | cut -d: -f1 | xargs sed -i
's/productionserver/testserver/g'


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Developing signal generator on ICH6

[joan vicient]

Hi, first of all, let me introduce myself.

I'm an electronic engineering student and I'm having some troubles
with my project wich i have to develop to become an engineer. So
that's why I'm posting here.

The project itself is based on my laptop (ICH6 with the AC97
soundcard). I'm trying to develop a sound generator with the AC97.

I've been working hard but there is somethig wrong and I'm not sure
what is it. I think is the Buffer Descriptor List Base Addres or maybe
the codec initialization, not sure...

I am looking at the alsa-driver to understand how does the driver
configure the soundcard so I can do the same but I don't understand
the source code at all...

So... somebody out there with some skills can help me?

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Re: OOo 3.0 still not ready?? (was Re: Non-Debian Provided Packages)

[Rene Engelhard]

Hi,

Paul Cartwright wrote:
> so on my Lenny system, if I run this command:
> 
> apt-get install -t experimental openoffice.org
> 
> will it overwrite my existing 2.4 installation, or will I have 2 OOs
> available ?

think a bit... Same package names -> overwrites 2.4.

And you won't be able to install it on pure lenny, needs one lib from
sid. The other one (liblucene2-java) can be omitted when you don't
install the metapackage (openoffice.org) or don't need search in the
help...

At some time there will be a lenny-backport, though.

Grüße/Regards,

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Re: OOo 3.0 still not ready?? (was Re: Non-Debian Provided Packages)

[Paul Cartwright]

Rene Engelhard wrote:
> $ rmadison -s experimental openoffice.org-core

I just tried that command and got the same results.. never heard of
rmadison before!!

> openoffice.org-core |  1:3.0.0-3 |  experimental | amd64, i386, powerpc, sparc
> 
> Grüße/Regards,
> 
> René
> (the maintainer, and sorry for the hassle, -1 and -2 failed to build
> on the i386 buildd)

so on my Lenny system, if I run this command:

apt-get install -t experimental openoffice.org

will it overwrite my existing 2.4 installation, or will I have 2 OOs
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Re: USB ownership

[Paul Cartwright]

Emanoil Kotsev wrote:
> Paul Cartwright wrote:
> 
>> Andrei Popescu wrote:
>>> On Mon,20.Oct.08, 17:06:25, Emanoil Kotsev wrote:
>>>  
 I suggested to use device by uuid

 /dev/disk/by-uuid/3fca395b-d75d-44ab-98be-9ec05b2e45fd
 /media/usb_2G_part3 auto users,noauto,atime,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 0
>>>  
>>> You can shorten this a bit:
>>>
>>> UUID=3fca
>>>
>>> It's not much, but given that the UUID is already very long...
>>>  
>> here is my /etc/fstab entry ( that works)
>> UUID=686C-7E81 /media/usb_DAWGS vfat
>> users,atime,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid,noauto  0 0
>>
>> ( that was all one line)
>>
>> in the /media folder is a file called .hal-mtab
>> I was trying to add an entry in there for this, so my wife could unmount
>> it, but I was not successful. The fstab entry still mounts it:
>>
>> drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 4096 2008-08-16 15:14 usb_DAWGS
>>
>>
> 
> For me the UUID= entry did not work
> 
> The /dev/disk/by-uuid work
> 
> Paul, the .hal entries are system entries they do not have to be set in
> fstab
> 
I tried adding that /dev/disk/by-uuid entry to .hal-mtab , but no change.
I think the REAL way to do it would be with a /etc/udev/rules.d entry,
but after looking at man udev and the 50.udev-rules file, it is way over
my head. I give up. I'll just have to tell her to switch to my user to
add entries, since I seem to own everything inserted.


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Re: friend cannot see me on msn

[Andreas Berglund]

Lachlan wrote:

2008/10/20 Andreas Berglund <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

Hi!
I just added a friend of mine on msn. I can see her and I can send messages
to her but when I'm online it looks to her like I'm offline and none of her
messages reach me. She tried to send an invitation to me several times but
none of them reached me. I have no idea where to even begin looking so any
help would be very much appreciated.
The client I'm using is kopete 0.12.3, I don't know what client my friend
uses but if you need to know I can ask her and I'd be happy to provide any
other information that might be relevant.

regards
Andreas Berglund



I have no idea about kopete but the best msn client i've used on linux
is emesene.

www.emesene.org


Thanks for the suggestion, I'll try it.



you can do everything in emesene that you can do with the actual
microsoft client. be sure to look through the plugins and turn on what
you want.

had heaps of visibility issues with pidgin, amsn and a few others but
none so far with this one.


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Re: High cpu usage with compiz

[lachlan]

On Tue, 2008-10-21 at 11:04 +0200, Aniruddha wrote:
> I would like to use  compiz. Unfortunately this is problematic since my
> system lags because of high (50%) cpu spikes. 3d acceleration is
> working. Is there anything I can do to solve this?

are you running lenny?
what version of ati driver are you using?

if you're using the fglrx driver (which looks like it from your xorg)
have you had any luck by using aticonfig?

after you install the driver you run 
$ aticonfig --initial -f
that will give you a clean xorg. 

for me the newer xorg versions have picked up everything automatically.
so ditch the big xorg.conf if you can.

i run on a hd3870 and it's perfect using the ati 8.9 driver.
all i had to do to get 3d acceleration was install the driver and run
aticonfig. to get compiz i just added the 

compiz "enable"

line at the end of my xorg.
i've attached my current file for you to look at if you need it.

> CPU
> > Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E8400  @ 3.00GHz
> 
> Gfxcard
> > ATI Technologies Inc RV670PRO [Radeon HD 3850]
> 
> xorg.conf
> > ### This file was generated by xac v0.6_pre3
> > 
> > Section "ServerLayout"
> > Identifier "XAC Configured"
> > Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0
> > InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
> > InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
> > EndSection
> > 
> > Section "Files"
> > ### Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (which are concatenated
> > ### together as well as specifying multiple comma-separated
> > ### entries in one FontPath command (or both methods)
> > ### 
> > ### For X Font Server support, uncomment this and comment the
> > ### other FontPaths. (This is not required for most configurations)
> > # FontPath "unix/:-1"
> > 
> > FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/misc"
> > FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/default/ghostscript"
> > FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/dejavu"
> > FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/75dpi"
> > FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/ttf-bitstream-vera"
> > FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/corefonts"
> > FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/100dpi"
> > FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/Type1"
> > EndSection
> > 
> > Section "Module"
> > Load "extmod"
> > Load "dbe"
> > Load "record"
> > Load "glx"
> > Load "type1"
> > Load "freetype"
> > # Load "dri"
> > EndSection
> > 
> > Section "ServerFlags"
> > Option "blank time" "10" # 10 Minutes
> > Option "standby time" "20" # 20 Minutes
> > Option "suspend time" "30" # 30Minutes
> > Option "off time" "60" # 60Minutes
> > ### Uncomment so X doesn't fail when no mouse is available
> > # Option "AllowMouseOpenFail" "true"
> > ### Enable this option if X should not change resolutions
> > ### This is useful if mode changing corrupts the X Server
> > # Option "DisableVidModeExtensions" "true"
> > EndSection
> > 
> > Section "InputDevice"
> > Identifier "Keyboard0"
> > Driver "kbd"
> > ### Check /usr/share/X11/xkb/rules/xorg.lst for available models
> > Option "XkbdModel" "pc105"
> > ### Check /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/ for available layouts
> > Option "XkbLayout" "us"
> > Option "XkbOptions" "compose:rwin"
> > EndSection
> > 
> > Section "InputDevice"
> > Identifier "Mouse0"
> > Driver "mouse"
> > Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
> > Option "Protocol" "auto"
> > 
> > ### Set driver options:
> > ### No options set!
> > 
> > ### Unset driver options:
> > ### No options unset!
> > EndSection
> > 
> > Section "Device"
> > Identifier "Card0"
> > Driver "fglrx"
> > ### Configured ATI Radeon Open Driver at PCI Bus ID:
> > # BusID "PCI:5:0:0" 
> > EndSection
> > 
> > Section "Monitor"
> > Identifier "Monitor0"
> > UseModes "Modes0"
> > ModelName "BenQ G2400W"
> > Option "DPMS"
> > Option "ReducedBlanking"
> > HorizSync 31-94
> > VertRefresh 50-85
> > EndSection
> > 
> > Section "Modes"
> > Identifier "Modes0"
> > ### # 1920x1200 59.95 Hz (CVT 2.30MA-R) hsync: 74.04 kHz; pclk: 154.00
> > MHz
> > Modeline "1920x1200"  154.00  1920 1968 2000 2080  1200 1203 1209 1235
> > +hsync -vsync
> > ### # 720x400 59.55 Hz (CVT) hsync: 24.83 kHz; pclk: 22.25 MHz
> > Modeline "720x400"   22.25  720 744 808 896  400 403 413 417 -hsync
> > +vsync
> > ### # 256x341 59.09 Hz (CVT) hsync: 21.09 kHz; pclk: 6.75 MHz
> > Modeline "256x341"6.75  256 264 288 320  341 344 354 357 -hsync
> > +vsync
> > EndSection
> > 
> > Section "Screen"
> > Identifier "Screen0"
> > Device "Card0"
> > Monitor "Monitor0"
> > DefaultDepth 24
> > 
> > SubSection "Display"
> > Depth 8
> > Virtual 1920 1200
> > Modes "1920x1200" "720x400" "640x480" "640x480" "800x600" "720x400"
> > "720x400" "640x480" "640x480" "800x600" "256x341" 
> > EndSubSection
> > 
> > SubSection "Display"
> > Depth 16
> > Virtual 1920 1200
> > Modes "1920x1200" "720x400" "640x480" "640x480" "800x600" "720x400"
> > "720x400" "640x480" "640x480" "800x600" "256x341" 
> > EndSubSection
> > 
> > SubSection "Display"
> > Depth 24
> > Virtual 1920 1200
> > Modes "1920x1200" "720x400" "640x480" "640x480" "800x600" "720x400"
> > "720x400" "640x480" "640x480" "800x600" "256x341" 
> > EndSubSection
> > 
> > EndSection
> > 
> > Section "DRI"
> > Group 0
> > 

How to mirror a server installation?

[Arnau]

Hi all,

 I'd like to mirror all the packages installed in a production server 
with the same versions. The idea is to have a enviroment test the 
upgrades before apply those upgrades to the real production server. What 
is the best way to do this?


Thank you very much
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Re: security question

[Tzafrir Cohen]

On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 08:12:53PM +0300, Bogdan wrote:
> Paul Johnson wrote:
>> Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
>>   
>>> On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 07:51:38PM +0300, Bogdan wrote:
>>>   
 Although I don't like it, the bank i work with only offers Internet 
 Banking that works only under Internet Explorer. So, unfortunately, 
 if I want to check out my account I see myself obliged to boot 
 Windows :(. I know that IE can be installed through wine but no one 
  seems to guaranty safety... Would IE installed on my Debian be 
 less safe than the one running in it's native environment? If yes, 
 why would that be so?
   
>>> I wouldn't trust IE to do banking in any event.
>>>
>>> Actually, I don't trust any internet banking.  I go to the bank, the
>>> bank's machine, or I phone them.
>>> 
>> I don't even trust ATMs if they run Windows.  Which pretty much
>> eliminates the possibility of me ever banking with Bank of America or
>> Wells Fargo.
>>
>>   
> Hey guys,
>
> Thanks for your answers!
> Although i really like my bank, I considered switching because of this  
> reason, but as far as I can tell, there is only one bank in Romania that  
> offers Internet Banking with Firefox :(, and I don't like it.
> I'm thinking on mailing my bank on the issue... but I guess it won't  
> make any difference.
> Oh well... a lot of people still think Linux is some fruit and Firefox  
> some weird animal :).

Considering the increasing market share of Firefox and co. 
(especially with young folks who the banks most want as customers),
banks that do not support other broswers are fools.

So you should start with checking the support of Firefox and other
browsers with other banks. And actively threaten to move your account
elsewhere.

Two years ago only one of the major 5 banks in Israel had good support
for Firefox, and another one had a buggy but working one. Now all 5 have
at least "buggy but working one". Banks generally move slow: it takes a
lot of time for hem to test a new site. So if they tell you "we're
working on it" you may be able to believe them. But "we're working on it
and it will probably be ready on ___" is a better answer.

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Re: Docx and OpenOffice in Lenny

[Rene Engelhard]

Hi,

Aniruddha wrote:
> Hmm that is weird, I just checked and apparentley Lenny uses the regular
> openoffice. I think it is best to email the people of go-oo and ask them

I've no idea how you checked, but we use go-oo.

Grüße/Regards,

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Re: OOo 3.0 still not ready?? (was Re: Non-Debian Provided Packages)

[Rene Engelhard]

Hi,

Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 12:06:38PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> 
> > You say that OOo3 is "Experimental 3.0.0-3", but evidence shows that the 
> > ftp.debian.org experimental branch is still at 3.0.0~rc4-1.
> 
> $ rmadison openoffice.org
> openoffice.org | 1.1.3-9sarge8 | oldstable | source, all
> openoffice.org | 2.0.4.dfsg.2-5etch1 | etch-m68k | source
> openoffice.org | 2.0.4.dfsg.2-7etch5 |stable | source, amd64, i386, 
> powerpc, sparc
> openoffice.org | 1:2.4.1-11 |   testing | source, amd64, armel, i386, 
> ia64, mips, mipsel, powerpc, s390, sparc
> openoffice.org | 1:2.4.1-11 |  unstable | source, amd64, armel, i386, 
> ia64, mips, mipsel, powerpc, s390, sparc
> openoffice.org | 1:3.0.0~beta2-1 |  experimental | sparc
> openoffice.org | 1:3.0.0~rc2-1 |  experimental | powerpc
> openoffice.org | 1:3.0.0~rc4-1 |  experimental | i386
> openoffice.org |  1:3.0.0-3 |  experimental | source, amd64
> 
> So just upgrade from i386 to amd64, and your're done :-)

In the meanwhile it's available for i386 now :)

$ rmadison -s experimental openoffice.org-core
openoffice.org-core |  1:3.0.0-3 |  experimental | amd64, i386, powerpc, sparc

Grüße/Regards,

René
(the maintainer, and sorry for the hassle, -1 and -2 failed to build
on the i386 buildd)
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High cpu usage with compiz

[Aniruddha]

I would like to use  compiz. Unfortunately this is problematic since my
system lags because of high (50%) cpu spikes. 3d acceleration is
working. Is there anything I can do to solve this?

CPU
> Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E8400  @ 3.00GHz

Gfxcard
> ATI Technologies Inc RV670PRO [Radeon HD 3850]

xorg.conf
> ### This file was generated by xac v0.6_pre3
> 
> Section "ServerLayout"
> Identifier "XAC Configured"
> Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0
> InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
> InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
> EndSection
> 
> Section "Files"
> ### Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (which are concatenated
> ### together as well as specifying multiple comma-separated
> ### entries in one FontPath command (or both methods)
> ### 
> ### For X Font Server support, uncomment this and comment the
> ### other FontPaths. (This is not required for most configurations)
> # FontPath "unix/:-1"
> 
> FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/misc"
> FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/default/ghostscript"
> FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/dejavu"
> FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/75dpi"
> FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/ttf-bitstream-vera"
> FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/corefonts"
> FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/100dpi"
> FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/Type1"
> EndSection
> 
> Section "Module"
> Load "extmod"
> Load "dbe"
> Load "record"
> Load "glx"
> Load "type1"
> Load "freetype"
> # Load "dri"
> EndSection
> 
> Section "ServerFlags"
> Option "blank time" "10" # 10 Minutes
> Option "standby time" "20" # 20 Minutes
> Option "suspend time" "30" # 30Minutes
> Option "off time" "60" # 60Minutes
> ### Uncomment so X doesn't fail when no mouse is available
> # Option "AllowMouseOpenFail" "true"
> ### Enable this option if X should not change resolutions
> ### This is useful if mode changing corrupts the X Server
> # Option "DisableVidModeExtensions" "true"
> EndSection
> 
> Section "InputDevice"
> Identifier "Keyboard0"
> Driver "kbd"
> ### Check /usr/share/X11/xkb/rules/xorg.lst for available models
> Option "XkbdModel" "pc105"
> ### Check /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/ for available layouts
> Option "XkbLayout" "us"
> Option "XkbOptions" "compose:rwin"
> EndSection
> 
> Section "InputDevice"
> Identifier "Mouse0"
> Driver "mouse"
> Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
> Option "Protocol" "auto"
> 
> ### Set driver options:
> ### No options set!
> 
> ### Unset driver options:
> ### No options unset!
> EndSection
> 
> Section "Device"
> Identifier "Card0"
> Driver "fglrx"
> ### Configured ATI Radeon Open Driver at PCI Bus ID:
> # BusID "PCI:5:0:0" 
> EndSection
> 
> Section "Monitor"
> Identifier "Monitor0"
> UseModes "Modes0"
> ModelName "BenQ G2400W"
> Option "DPMS"
> Option "ReducedBlanking"
> HorizSync 31-94
> VertRefresh 50-85
> EndSection
> 
> Section "Modes"
> Identifier "Modes0"
> ### # 1920x1200 59.95 Hz (CVT 2.30MA-R) hsync: 74.04 kHz; pclk: 154.00
> MHz
> Modeline "1920x1200"  154.00  1920 1968 2000 2080  1200 1203 1209 1235
> +hsync -vsync
> ### # 720x400 59.55 Hz (CVT) hsync: 24.83 kHz; pclk: 22.25 MHz
> Modeline "720x400"   22.25  720 744 808 896  400 403 413 417 -hsync
> +vsync
> ### # 256x341 59.09 Hz (CVT) hsync: 21.09 kHz; pclk: 6.75 MHz
> Modeline "256x341"6.75  256 264 288 320  341 344 354 357 -hsync
> +vsync
> EndSection
> 
> Section "Screen"
> Identifier "Screen0"
> Device "Card0"
> Monitor "Monitor0"
> DefaultDepth 24
> 
> SubSection "Display"
> Depth 8
> Virtual 1920 1200
> Modes "1920x1200" "720x400" "640x480" "640x480" "800x600" "720x400"
> "720x400" "640x480" "640x480" "800x600" "256x341" 
> EndSubSection
> 
> SubSection "Display"
> Depth 16
> Virtual 1920 1200
> Modes "1920x1200" "720x400" "640x480" "640x480" "800x600" "720x400"
> "720x400" "640x480" "640x480" "800x600" "256x341" 
> EndSubSection
> 
> SubSection "Display"
> Depth 24
> Virtual 1920 1200
> Modes "1920x1200" "720x400" "640x480" "640x480" "800x600" "720x400"
> "720x400" "640x480" "640x480" "800x600" "256x341" 
> EndSubSection
> 
> EndSection
> 
> Section "DRI"
> Group 0
> Mode 0666
> EndSection
> 



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Re: ab - apr_socket_recv: Connection refused (111)

[Thomas]

There is something strange going on because I also tried httperf, and
it doesn't receive any response even when testing against 127.0.0.1
(to remove network problems if they are).


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Re: Why the BLEEP was my sound removed?

[Rico Secada]

On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 17:46:55 -0500
Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On 10/20/08 17:25, Rico Secada wrote:
> > On Sun, 19 Oct 2008 23:04:11 -0500
> > Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> You can't have Cheap, Easy and Secure.  Choose two, and from there 
> determine your desktop OS:
> 
> Cheap and Easy: Windows. (Well, not really, but that's the fiction.)
> Cheap and Secure: Linux.
> Easy and Secure: OSX.

I disagree with you on this. I have been working with Debian for about
ten years now, and there is nothing difficult about it. That's not the
point.

My point was that I didn't want to mess with something a
non-debian-way, to get sound working, but like I said, I missed the
problem about the licens, I thought there was another reason for remove
the module.

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Re: usb device file

[Christopher Howard]

Chris Bannister wrote:

On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 10:16:54AM -0800, Christopher Howard wrote:
  

---

Christopher Howard
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http://www.indicium.us




Hi,

I noticed your sig did not render correctly in my mailer. The deliniter
for a sig is -- not --- Compare yours with mine
below.

  
I'm sorry, but in Icedove (a.k.a., Thunderbird), I can only define the 
text of the signature, not how it is implemented (as far as I know).  
Icedove generates the --- text.  Next time I have the need, I 
will probably switch to claws-mail.  But it is not at the moment 
convenient for me to switch mail clients for such a small reason.


As a point of curiosity, what mailer are you using, and why does it 
distinguish between the signature and the text?




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